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christian concern highlighted the case of a 19 year old girl who the nhs is seeking to withdraw treatment from is the state encroach ing too much into family life.7 have the state replaced mum and dad.7 i'm debating this and more with my panel debating this and more with my panel. that's all coming up after the news and the latest headunes after the news and the latest headlines with ray addison . headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, lawrence. good evening. our top stories , the evening. our top stories, the met police has confirmed a sighting of escaped prisoner daniel calef . he was last seen daniel calef. he was last seen leaving a lorry near wandsworth roundabout and walking towards the town centre . they're the town centre. they're offering a £20,000 reward for information that leads to his arrest. they also released images of the chef's uniform that he escaped in. commander dominic murray. murphy. murphy rather, is head of the met's counter—terrorism command. he's urging calef to give himself up i >> -- >> my message to daniel is to give himself up. we will be

closing in on you. the public are motivated and trying to find you. we've had excellent support from the media for it's only a matter of time before we find you. and i would appeal to you to call us and we will come and get you or go into your nearest police station and we will detain you . detain you. >> to channel migrants who attacked police on a french beach have been jailed. 33 year old sally tayeb abdullah and 25 year old ahmed omar saleh qatar were sentenced to two years and two months for attempting to arrive in the uk illegally . the arrive in the uk illegally. the pair were part of a violent group who confronted officers near calais as they tried to stop them launching a small boat. the prime minister says a free trade deal with india is not a given and not top of his agenda ahead of the g20 summit in delhi. rishi sunak is expected to encourage india's prime minister narendra modi to end his policy of neutrality to russia . he'll also urge world russia. he'll also urge world leaders to address the war in

ukraine. he's refused to commit to having a trade agreement in place before the next election . place before the next election. gun salutes have been fired in london to mark the first anniversary of the late queen's death and the king's accession to the throne . they were held in to the throne. they were held in hyde park and at the tower of london with soldiers and horses who took part in the state funeral procession returning for those gun salutes in the king's honour. charles and camilla attended a private service of prayer this morning in the church near balmoral, where the late queen worshipped. the king also recorded a special audio message in memory of his mother i >> -- >> in marking the first anniversary of her late majesty's death and my accession, we recall with great affection her long life devoted service and all she meant to so many of us. i am deeply grateful, too, for the love and support that has been shown to my wife and myself during this

yeah my wife and myself during this year. as we do our utmost to be of service to you all. >> this is gb news across the uk on television in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to lawrence . lawrence. >> at what juncture can an individual realistically assess that they are no longer living in a free society? at what point do humans cease their relentless march up and down the hills of life and say, here, i will die here on this hill? is it when our speech is restricted to such an extent that to express an opinion freely rather than parroting conformity will result in total social ostracisation and the loss of our livelihoods? is it when we are demonised for upholding bodily autonomy in the face of salivating , tinpot face of salivating, tinpot totalitarians dripping , keen to totalitarians dripping, keen to force us into undergoing novel

experimental medical procedures 7 experimental medical procedures ? or is it when our freedom to move is so prohibitively taxed and surveilled that we give up and surveilled that we give up and say , i'm going to stay at and say, i'm going to stay at home staring at my screen like a good little comrade chewing on my ration of mealworms in soporific fealty ? is it when we soporific fealty? is it when we send our children to schools where teachers have been replaced with political activists not knowing whether our home, having our kid will return home, having been transitioned by been socially transitioned by some vengeful ideologue? or is it when the state decides whether seriously ill yet whether a seriously ill yet fully individual fully conscious individual should be denied treatment and left to die to protect our nhs ? left to die to protect our nhs? which hill will you die on when all an nhs hospital is asking the court of protection to remove life saving treatment from a fully conscious 19 year old girl suffering from a similar condition to charlie gard because she is active early dying. the girl known only as st understandably would like to prioritise her right to life over the budget sheets of our beloved nhs and has been

assessed by two separate psychiatrists to be of sound mind . she wants to raise money mind. she wants to raise money to partake in clinical trials overseas, which she is aware may not work. she says she wants to die trying to live . the doctors die trying to live. the doctors in our beloved health service view this strange refusal just to give up and die so they can clear up some bed space as a refusal to accept the inevitable and therefore signs of delusion . so they took their disagreement to court. . so they took their disagreement to court . oh, . so they took their disagreement to court. oh, thank god for the courts . i hear you god for the courts. i hear you say yes. the education system has been infiltrated by the child mutilation cult along with the police force and all the other national institutions which bang the diversity drum as their buildings down around their buildings burn down around them. but the courts, the slow and cold dissection of facts and evidence are blind to the ideological leanings of any individuals concerned. and we and will we are led to believe eventually get it right in the end . we can trust the courts

end. we can trust the courts impartial, apolitical, all fair . so surely the judge, mrs. justice roberts , would see sense justice roberts, would see sense and grant this girl the right to live a freedom she should never have to ask for. no rejecting the opinion of both psychiatric experts, the judge concluded that st, as she is known, is mentally incapable of making decisions for herself because she does not believe what the doctors say about her condition. she conclude covid. in my judgement , she conclude covid. in my judgement, st is unable to make a decision for herself in relation to her future medical treatment, including the proposed move to palliative care , because she does not believe the information she has been given by her doctors is not only has the esteemed judge reached her hand into a young life and desperate family to remove the ultimate freedom that of life , ultimate freedom that of life, like so many of the pernicious deaungs like so many of the pernicious dealings of the courts these days, she has imposed a strict test of reporting restrictions , test of reporting restrictions, means denying the family the

right to publicly right to speak publicly about the case and raise money for st to to canada for that last to go to canada for that last chance at experimental life saving treatment . putting aside saving treatment. putting aside the, in my view, certain insanity of justice roberts's judgement, the silencing of the family's freedom of speech to speak about the case is even starker wrong to be gagged whilst you are dying seems just so infinitely cruel. the right to life is the only unqualified right in the european convention on human rights. why would a judge impose such draconian restriction as to free speech on such a vulnerable human being? and for whose benefit ? what and for whose benefit? what would she do? so this is a crucial debate , not a debate to crucial debate, not a debate to be heard in public and on television, reported in newspapers, argued around dinner tables and propped up against the bar , not behind closed the bar, not behind closed doors, despite questions like what is the cost of a human life

7 what is the cost of a human life ? what is the cost of human life to our beloved nhs ? is to our beloved nhs? is premeditatedly denying someone the right to life? not a form of murder in itself? who knows? but the decision to silence the girl and her family means there will be no discussion or debate, no sunlight to disinfect this egregious wrong as it continues to die while desperately trying to die while desperately trying to live . it would seem that to live. it would seem that those who wish to insert new orthodoxies into the system learned their lesson from charlie gard. there will be no tearful parents on tv sofas. there will be no innocent children's faces on newspaper pages. children's faces on newspaper pages . one wonders how many children's faces on newspaper pages. one wonders how many more horrors lurk behind the justice systems inability to silence free speech and silence the voices of parents in society wishing to replace the family with their own warm and fatal embrace. so only the politicians have shown no interest in protecting this most ancient and sacred of institutions. the family, their preening ambition prevents them from even having

schools inform parents of life altering decisions made by immature , impressionable immature, impressionable children. this conservative in name only party, the most gutless bunch of cowards to ever represent us, our values and our traditions. absolutely and utterly captured like their chums on the other side of the house by the child mutilation cult and its equally sinister derivatives . this is why the derivatives. this is why the decision of seti is so worrying. the last appeal to authority a human being can make is to those who have been chosen to judge and judgements of this important court should be open and transparent, not silenced and sucked down into the darkness . sucked down into the darkness. so i said at the beginning, at what juncture can an individual realist assess that they no longer live in a free society ? longer live in a free society? dodi i say when the state dodi i would say when the state removes a human being's right to life, not only are you about as far away from a free society as you can get, you are somewhere much, much worse . so tonight i'm

much, much worse. so tonight i'm going to ask you, should the state get out of our way ? email state get out of our way? email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet gb news or at fox. also quickly on my overlords at gb news hq , i my overlords at gb news hq, i introducing new concept called the balance horn. it sounds like this . that's the balance horn. it sounds like this. that's what the balance horn. it sounds like this . that's what they tell me this. that's what they tell me that i that's when they tell me that i that's when they tell me that i've gone too far without shouting in my ear because i pull my ear thing out. anyway, let's it one more time . let's hear it one more time. what could possibly go wrong . what could possibly go wrong. right. as i mentioned already , a right. as i mentioned already, a critically ill 19 year old girl and her family are fighting the nhs in court over plans to stop her treatment and proceed with end of life care as anonymized by the court. esther said , i by the court. esther said, i want to die trying to live. we

have to try everything. so to discuss this problematic case is the director of the anscombe bioethics centre, professor david jones . david, good david jones. david, good evening. why why is this case being hidden behind ? and you being hidden behind? and you know, these restrictions on talking about it ? well i'm talking about it? well i'm afraid that's the norm . afraid that's the norm. >> i'm you will see this in relation to the charlie gard case, the court of protection routinely prevents parents from from speaking about their child , ostensibly for the good of the child , because exposure to child, because exposure to pubuchy child, because exposure to publicity can be detrimental . publicity can be detrimental. but in fact , i, i do wonder if but in fact, i, i do wonder if who the court of protection protects really ? because because protects really? because because it doesn't protect the rights of parents to allow now the public to understand . but this is very,

to understand. but this is very, very common. this is very common. >> some people might say that it this is this tragic story of a young woman dying . this is this tragic story of a young woman dying. is this is this tragic story of a young woman dying . is already young woman dying. is already concluded in one way. and that, you know, their their taxpayer was and they would like this to money be invested on someone who was still had a life ahead of them. what would you say to those people? >> well , it's not those people? >> well, it's not simply those people? >> well , it's not simply the >> well, it's not simply the question of should she get treatment or not and should she get treatment on the nhs or not? the first question, fundamental . the first question is, can we hear her voice? that's the first question. and is the fact that you disagree with your doctors sufficient to say that you lack mental capacity ? because because mental capacity? because because this is a very worrying case in this is a very worrying case in this respect? it's a very worrying case in the in not reporting it. it's quite common. but in saying because you disagree with your doctors, therefore you actually don't have capacity even to disagree

that this is something new and something very worrying . something very worrying. >> can you explain why the judge has come to her judgement? do you think . so? you think. so? >> the trust think that . the >> the trust think that. the young woman in question is wrong and they've tried to persuade this this this young woman to think about what would be the opfions think about what would be the options if things didn't work out . and she doesn't want to out. and she doesn't want to talk about that . she wants to talk about that. she wants to talk about that. she wants to talk hopefully about things and so they've been frustrated in this this way. she's somebody who's quite determined and her family are quite determined to do as much as they . can to give do as much as they. can to give us the small chance. and i think , honestly, it is a small chance. but to give that small chance. but to give that small chance that that something might help her . and because i've been

help her. and because i've been so frustrated they've gone to the court and they've said to the court and they've said to the court, we can't talk sense to this girl , and the court, we can't talk sense to this girl, and therefore we want you to say that she hasn't got capacity. so we can then bypass her and then make a best interest decision on her on her behalf. so i made a point in my monologue about the fact that if you are making a premeditated decision to deny someone the right to life, that is in its own way some form of murder, would that be too strong for you ? no, i think it would be too strong because lots of people want things from their doctors in the hope that they might help . and the doctors honestly don't think it will help. and doctors are not obliged to give what they don't think will help . and they don't think will help. and that that might be there. that

might that's part of the situation here. they honestly don't think it will help. she she she she wants something the fundamental problem here is it's all, as you say, in secret . it's all, as you say, in secret. it's all, as you say, in secret. it's all it's all hidden. she can't go public about this. she can't decide that she wants to have private this is the great heresy in this country. she can't have private medical treatment if the nhs decides they don't want to fund this, it's the nhs , don't fund this, it's the nhs, don't want to fund this. that's that is a decision that might want is a decision that we might want to . to make. >> well, the nhs has actually. sorry interrupt you. the nhs sorry to interrupt you. the nhs trusts because the trusts have said because the balance on the nhs trust has said our focus remains on providing the very best of care and support to the patient, their family and the clinical teams in these very distressed circumstances is the very best of care to kill someone . of care to kill someone. >> so sometimes , often there's >> so sometimes, often there's little that medicine can do and

sometimes trying to do something when there's not much that you can do left will do more harm than good . doctors sometimes do than good. doctors sometimes do more harm than so i think more harm than good. so i think that doctors, sometimes they want to back they want to step back and they want to we've we've to say, we think we've we've we've we've done enough here. we can't can't do anything more can't we can't do anything more . the problem here is honesty and transparency. and the voice of the person who is most affected and has actually been taken away in order for the doctors to have more of an easy ride in saying, doctors to have more of an easy ride in saying , well, sorry, ride in saying, well, sorry, i should in for order the doctors to be able to offer a view, i can challenge it. >> you say exactly what you think. if you think if you think she's being denied a voice to protect doctors, say protect the doctors, you say what and i'll what you think and i'll challenge what you think and i'll chawell,3 what you think and i'll chawell, i think it's easier for >> well, i think it's easier for a doctor to say , hey, we think a doctor to say, hey, we think it is in your best interest to not have treatment and you're not have treatment and you're not competent to say otherwise than to say, we know you won't treatment, but we're not going to give it to you. where is

something where is where is the balance between an, you know, a tax payer funded health service that needs to look after the needs of patients across the community and the rights of someone to extend their life. >> i mean, is there is there a debate to be had or or in my view, you can't you have the right to life. it's article two, isn't it? so you have the right to life. but i mean, where is the balance? >> you have the right to life, but you don't have right to but you don't have the right to every most expensive treatment, which won't work in which probably won't work in your case or might work for somebody very somebody else. so there are very difficult decisions to be made about allocation and people often decisions . but often duck those decisions. but the thing is trans apparency the key thing is trans apparency and allowing things to happen in pubuc and allowing things to happen in public and allowing people to have their voice. and most of all, not saying because a young woman disagrees with her doctor, we can say she's not competent anymore . i mean, this is we can say she's not competent anymore. i mean, this is this is the woman in white. this is this

is saying, you have got someone who we don't like what you're saying . so we will say we will saying. so we will say we will take away your right to speak, take away your right to speak, take away your right to be to be to be active. that's what i find sinister and all which to me , sinister and all which to me, you know, as much as i'm trying to be balanced because i've got to be balanced because i've got to be balanced because i've got to be is possibly the deepest cruelty you could ever commit on another . i think another human being. i think that the fact is she's a very, very poorly she's really, really sick . it's unlikely that she'll sick. it's unlikely that she'll get through this. and whatever she does, even if she won her case and the judge had made a different decision , they did different decision, they did everything they could. she got on to this canadian or couple in the states. i think experimental trial likelihood is it's not going to work. that's the most likely outcome. but she wants to die trying. that's what she and that and that is that is the fundamental part of the right to life. >> david, thank you so much.

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. welcome back. >> you are watching and listening to gb news with me, laurence fox joining me now is lucy johnston, health and social affairs editor at the express . affairs editor at the express. lucy, thanks for coming in. are we over diagnosing and over medicalizing our kids and turning them into sort of paranoid wrecks? what's happening ? happening? >> well, there has been a huge increase s in the numbers of children who are getting diagnoses . and it wasn't really diagnoses. and it wasn't really seen before the sort of 90s and 80s. it's a big business and it's worth a lot of money. i think we spend about over £1 billion a year on drugs to treat children. but of course all these so—called neurodiversities are different. they include dyslexia , dyspraxia, dyscalculia dyslexia, dyspraxia, dyscalculia functions of the brain where

people struggle and they're not medicalized yet and not drugged. but there are other conditions and adhd, those sorts of things, those sorts of acronyms where there. yeah. where there are drugs that are used and those drugs that are used and those drugs are a derivative of amphetamines and they're stimulant drugs and they. confession. >> i've got a confession. go ahead.a >> i've got a confession. go ahead. a friend of mine who well, his next friend of mine, actually, now that i've started saying what i think, you made a huge amount of money. and his way of making staying awake . way of making staying awake. well, money was to well, he made some money was to bosh ritalin into two lines bosh up a ritalin into two lines and snort it like cocaine . and snort it like cocaine. >> but how does he make money? >> but how does he make money? >> no, no, he. he never goes to sleep. oh, i see. anyway did sleep. oh, i see. anyway i did this him once. okay. this with him once. okay. ritalin is some seriously strong stuff, i can tell you that. yes >> kegel too, i think. yeah, it is. >> they're derivatives of amphetamines. yeah, that's it. >> it's like speed and the >> so it's like speed and the studies that show how it works and i think it does. and anecdotally it helps works in

inverted commas. it helps children concentrate, but also there are so that i think parents and teachers get quite addicted to the fact that children are suddenly behaving . children are suddenly behaving. they're meeting their milestones that they want to meet, want them to meet . but the most of them to meet. but the most of them to meet. but the most of the studies on these have been done by industry making money out of it. and they're only short term. they last sort of 6 to 12 weeks. and what's really depressing about it is that there are longer term studies out there, but they don't seem to get a blink of attention anyway. what does the longer term and the longer term studies and these include something called review , called the cochrane review, which is review of reviews . which is a review of reviews. and it's unbiased, it's independent, and there's another three year follow up study on children. and they show that there's no better outcomes for these children that are on these drugs. there's they're either worse or or or the same . and

worse or or or the same. and they've looked at a range of mental health kind of criteria. and also quality of life. and also looking at their life chances and their chance of getting a job. so those studies show that they're they aren't improvements and symptomatic relief is what symptomatic relief is what symptomatic relief is what we're doing. but the issue is we're giving drugs to children that do have side effects. so there are short term side effects like headaches and insomnia , nia, and weight loss. insomnia, nia, and weight loss. they increase the sort of blood pressure and the heart rate and the long term studies show that the long term studies show that the children on these drugs can be shorter. they can be also have lighter . they're less have lighter. they're less heavy. they can have there is a great risk of becoming tolerant because these drugs are addictive. and then you need more to have the same effect. and some people can be on them for there's also an for life. and there's also an increased if you're doing increased risk if you're doing this to your heart and your

cardiovascular system, there's a risk of heart disease. i don't know how big it is, but there is that risk. and even some suggest an of a risk of parkinson's because you're messing with the neurotransmitters in the brain and dopamine signals. but there is a danger to these drugs . so is a danger to these drugs. so if we're not doing anything for these children long term, but we're just controlling a set of collection of symptoms in the short term, then would we want to question how we treat them? and would patients time support that sort of behavioural therapy? would that not be something which we could do for something which we could do for some of these children , do you think? >> do you think it's because overwhelmingly, as a society we like to pathologize things and we like to turn around and go, you have x problem and it can be treated . the symptoms of it can treated. the symptoms of it can be treated with y drug. or it be treated with y drug. or is it because we're actually to make their argument the sort of the other side's argument. it's like, well you haven't seen this this overwhelming number of kids who are really struggling and they need this medical they need

cocaine to survive. >> i don't see good evidence that these collection of symptoms, no one's actually shown in a laboratory anywhere that these collection of symptoms are caused by this particular thing. in the brain. so we don't know that this is some wiring or dna. there's lots of theories about it. so but the there is a big, big industry around it . and there's a lot of around it. and there's a lot of money made from it and there's a big market in it. and the danger is when there's a lot of money being made by something and a big market in something, an industry sponsored trials in something, is a danger of something, there is a danger of bias, which is why i wanted to discuss tonight the independent trials that show no long term difference or even worse outcomes for those children who have been treated with these drugs . so i have been treated with these drugs. so i think. have been treated with these drugs. so i think . the labelling drugs. so i think. the labelling and pathologizing of children is

being turbocharged by social media, isn't it? i read today i think there's hashtag adhd, one of the neurodiverse conditions has been viewed 19 billion times or something. you know , so or something. you know, so people are picking up on it and it's being the social media is pushing it . and i think a lot of pushing it. and i think a lot of people, celebrities and influencers are also coming out now and saying that they think that or they have been diagnosed with it. so it's becoming sort of trendy as well . and there are of trendy as well. and there are private practitioners who, for a fee will give you a diagnosis and give you the drugs. i don't think you get much on the nhs. it takes a long time. you have to but but it's not to wait. but but it's not because that's the industry around it, isn't it? >> so you've got the billion pounds a year for the drugs themselves and then you've got all of the people that circle the vultures , that circle the, the vultures, that circle the, the vultures, that circle the, the patients to go.

>> that's not to say that every single child with a diagnosis and with a drug should not have it . could they benefit? it. could they benefit? >> would it be a so if you're saying, look , 6 to 12 weeks, it saying, look, 6 to 12 weeks, it could really help a child should we say these things are great ideas ? you've got a really tough ideas? you've got a really tough term coming up and you've got your gcses and you're all over the and just you the shop and you're just you can't concentrate . why not give can't concentrate. why not give them six, 12 weeks worth of speed to get through the exams and all the time? and focus all the time? >> the problem with that is that you're not teaching children life skills. life's tough . exams life skills. life's tough. exams are tough. it's tough out there. and if you're drugging and pathologizing children , then pathologizing children, then what are we actually teaching them? and the danger is that once you take that drug , it them? and the danger is that once you take that drug, it is very dependent forming. but children do become tolerant on it. and when they come off, they can suffer chills and side effects and it's not nice. so there is a danger to that. and

if one was to have the resources to put in support and to try and teach children, you know, in different way and improve their behaviours in a different way, that might be better and less risky for them . risky for them. >> so that my mum was a nurse and she always used to say, you treat the whole person and you know, she would, she , she would know, she would, she, she would avoid as much as she could going, you know, have some drugs for this, have some drugs for that. having said that, i do love a solpadeine max myself, but as well. but my mom's a nurse as well. >> we have share that in >> so we have share that in common. be the common. and she would be the same. she would like what's same. yeah she would like what's the and you know if the problem and you know if you've got you've got i mean you've got if you've got i mean i don't really understand any of these and think these diagnoses and i just think essentially that essentially all the ones that begin all acronyms begin with a all those acronyms , that's just boys , i just think that's just boys mainly . mainly. >> i mean, i'm being a bit short termist about it, but i'm just like, that's kids like like, that's what kids are like . increasing numbers . well, increasing numbers of girls, |, | girls, apparently. but i, i can't remember who said this, but think it's famous but i think it's a famous trope. you schools designed you know, schools are designed for girls are more for girls. girls are more organised, they're tidy, they

like just like doing things. boys just want and bang want to run around and bang their heads into walls . i don't their heads into walls. i don't know tidy in want know about tidy in and want to sit down organise . sit down and organise. >> any of those >> i'm not not any of those things, is that. and things, but there is that. and i think schools inherently are not not set up for really children to have the best welfare. we don't the whole structure of them is to sit, sit down, sit for double lessons, sit for another double lesson, and then you squeeze in some games. it doesn't. i never think that's very natural and i don't think, what would you do ? well, i mean, what would you do? well, i mean, there are other sort of approaches, aren't there? there are schools and children are forest schools and children out learning . you might out outdoor learning. you might change whole system and the change the whole system and the system's sort of set up really. it's still kind of has echoes of the victorian era where people had to rote learn things and keep rote learning things. we now have the internet, we have google. know it's got its google. i know it's got its biases and problems, but so do so many things . perhaps we so do many things. perhaps we need to relook at the whole education system. we don't need to anymore. we to learn things anymore. we have. we have ways of getting

information very quickly . and information very quickly. and perhaps we need to think about more creative learning and more physical all aspects to education. an because it it can't be natural to sit all day. it's not good for us. it's not good for anyone. >> and then to dope people into concentration . well, lucy concentration. well, lucy johnston , thank you very much. johnston, thank you very much. you are watching and listening to gb news coming up, it's time for fox and the news hounds. and guess who's here? narinder she's going to tell us how much she loves the queen. loved the queen. see you

you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back . right here are >> welcome back. right here are some reactions to my question. should the state get out of the way? the people are the state. it's a shrinking in government thatis it's a shrinking in government that is needed and says, gee, i completely agree with you. the state should be restricted to

40% of the. i mean, that's even way too much anyway. wendy says it's heartbreaking. the human instinct is to strive forward in life. how dare someone who has no involvement no emotional involvement decide otherwise? put, phil says otherwise? well put, phil says the nhs rationale appears to be the nhs rationale appears to be the state is going to die anyway . so let's accelerate our fate and get over it. get it over with. that logic could equally apply of us. it's apply to every one of us. it's simply matter scale. okay, simply a matter of scale. okay, so i think everyone's on board with the idea of it's appalling what is being done to street under the cloak of silence and enmity against all of the things to do with free speech, which makes separates us from totalitarianism anyway , in the totalitarianism anyway, in the studio is my panel, political commentator reem ibrahim. we hello and broadcast narinder kaur. kaun >> right. you say reem was really loud in the green room . really loud in the green room. can i was. i knew you'd do this . stop now. okay. a year ago today, our beloved queen sadly passed away. >> yeah . someone said. why did

>> yeah. someone said. why did everyone say passed away? she died. king charles marked the anniversary with a with a prayer service near balmoral and how do you think charles is compared to father ? but actually, before we father? but actually, before we go there, narinder kaur, how do you year on? you feel a year on? >> i wish you hadn't asked >> i just wish you hadn't asked me it's going to take me me because it's going to take me down terrible down this terrible, terrible journey and journey with being trolled. and |, journey with being trolled. and i, think charles i, i don't. i think charles could do better than his mum did. and i think his mum left him bit of a mess. you said him in a bit of a mess. you said a year old could do a seven year old could do better? yeah, i do. i better? yes. yeah, i do. i do think the queen. the think the queen. i think the queen the queen have queen the queen. the queen have failed a monarch . she she failed as a monarch. she she failed as a monarch. she she failed as a monarch. she she failed as a monarch . i'm sorry failed as a monarch. i'm sorry to say that, because i think i think that she was this figurehead of colonialism. people saw her as that. and she never apologised and ever apologised . and, you know, apologised. and, you know, people have resentment towards her. people from the former colonies . and even in the colonies. and even in the caribbean, they weren't sad when she died. the horn plays the horn. they were not horn. they didn't they were not sad. some people celebrated because apologise sad. some people celebrated becthea apologise sad. some people celebrated becthe wrongs apologise sad. some people celebrated becthe wrongs that apologise sad. some people celebrated becthe wrongs that thislogise sad. some people celebrated becthe wrongs that this country for the wrongs that this country did . so i think charles actually

did. so i think charles actually to give me give me just this last sentence , charles can do last sentence, charles can do better. and i hope he does . and better. and i hope he does. and i think i hope he does i think he i hope he does apologise the wrongs apologise for the wrongs committed past . committed in the past. >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god. >> i tell you what, the technical team, i just like to take a moment to just i'm going to take a ten minute pause to thank the technical team. thanks, team reem, obviously you hate the queen you hate england, you hate the monarchy . you hate you hate the monarchy. you hate every institution we've done . every institution we've done. why do you hate us so much? i you know what? >> i think that with people like nannden >> i think that with people like narinder, of emphasise narinder, who sort of emphasise the history that this the colonial history that this country has, we've got to think about the differences here. the queen was not out there taking over different countries herself. the british empire and empires across the world had existed. it's kind of the entire precedent behind world history. what i will say is i think the queen was an honourable individual who served this country incredibly well . and i country incredibly well. and i think it's i think it's actually quite offensive to sort of talk about the queen in this way.

prince charles king, charles, sorry, he was prince sorry, when he was the prince involved too in involved himself too much in politics. i think the politics. he i think the monarchy should involve themselves because what difference did the queen moment about zero good about all the monarchy should not be political i >> -- >> yeah. -_ >> yeah. so the queen you know, the queen was remembered for paddington bear. what did she establish? what did do in establish? what did she do in her she have the power her life? did she have the power in this country? she help in this country? does she help anyone in this country? >> her job? >> is that herjob? >> is that herjob? >> well, then what are paying >> well, then what are we paying for? we we for them. for? we are. we pay for them. >> do not. so actually, this >> we do not. so actually, this is quite a misconception. >> that's right concept i >> -- >> so the crown estate, the crown finances goes crown estates finances goes straight treasury . so straight to the treasury. so actually, family costs actually, the royal family costs the state less than we pay. oh, that's that's such weak argument. >> and that's not actually anything nice . anything nice. >> you know, see. we can get >> you know, i see. we can get the like, you know , i used >> i did like, you know, i used to like the royal family all they were like , i like the they were like, i like the nannder they were like, i like the narinder kaur. >> let's play. let's play an exercise. okay. you got anything nice to say about the monarchy? exercise. okay. you got anything nic

exercise. okay. you got anything nic> i'm hoping prince william will put everything right because i the younger because i think the younger generation at prince william. >> will they forgive ? >> will they forgive? >> will they forgive? >> think if he apologises >> so i think if he apologises the colonised, forgive the colonisers, the minute he used the that you're using, the rhetoric that you're using, hang on. >> i'm talking if you use the rhetoric of the coloniser , what rhetoric of the coloniser, what what would say to the people what would you say to the people in we're being in england who go, we're being colonised these colonised by all these immigrants. they're colonising us. >> us. >> they're colonising ema— >> they're not colonising you, though that's though. that's what. >> would say people >> what would you say to people who said that? >> absolutely dumb. >> that's absolutely dumb. that's a stupid thing. that's just a stupid thing. they're not colonised and there's they're not colonised and the so see the >> so you can see the positivity. see the positivity. you can see the positive a bunch positive of us having a bunch of every single people, every single day, 800 people, military aged men arriving without their wives and i think our needs it. our economy needs it. >> our economy the >> i think our economy needs the workers. it needs the workers, the or the royal family. >> no, no, you need i know i'm not even in charge. >> is this the first time? this is this time. >> i love this because we can go ball. get a word in narinder kaur. ball. get a word in narinder kaur . think ball. get a word in narinder kaur. think what you're kaur. i think that what you're doing is you're using these doing here is you're using these terms colonisation terms like colonisation and these incredibly emotive these sort of incredibly emotive

terms try and make sound terms to try and make it sound like , oh, like try and make it like, oh, like try and make it sound like the royal had sound like the royal family had actually with . actually anything to do with. they did. no, they did. >> cannot sit there. that is >> you cannot sit there. that is very ignorant very innocent very ignorant and very innocent of of you to say, oh, of you, naive of you to say, oh, they nothing to do with year they had nothing to do with year old the queen, the queen i know. i can't believe you. 21. the queen knew everything. she didn't for didn't apologise for the jallianwala massacre and jallianwala bagh massacre and she . william is a terrible she. william is a terrible brother to harry as well. >> oh, harry's a legend , right? >> oh, harry's a legend, right? >> oh, harry's a legend, right? >> i love harry. >> i love harry. >> i'm so. i know you do? >> i love harry. >> i'm so . i know you do? yes, >> i'm so. i know you do? yes, of course you are. of course you are. >> of course you are. >> you sweating over up now, right. listen britain's most wanted man has been spotted. >> oh, he has ? oh, can i finish >> oh, he has? oh, can i finish the autocue ? the autocue? >> you've got to stop . >> you've got to stop. >> you've got to stop. >> he's been spotted. daniel cleave , the escaped terror cleave, the escaped terror suspect, was reportedly seen walking away from the bidfood van near the wandsworth roundabout . oh, i like the roundabout. oh, i like the mcdonald's drive through over there. the met is offering a reward of up to £20,000 for information that directly leads to want to to his arrest. now, i want to know both of you, who would know from both of you, who would you in for £20,000?

you hand in for £20,000? nannder you hand in for £20,000? narinder kaur not a family member, because think that's member, because i think that's terrible. did you terrible. you should. did you just say outside? >> what did say ? oh, about my >> what did i say? oh, about my husband . i would my husband. i would hand him my husband. i would hand him my husband for free. free, free. >> i'll take him just for putting up with you. >> if you were a law abiding citizen in you, you should be handing in people for free, not for money. well, that makes you as bad as them. >> then you wouldn't get to go on flash holidays with your 2020. would only get you it >> you would only get you it wouldn't even get you three days on holiday. wouldn't even get you three days on okay. oliday. >> okay. >> em- gem-- >> of taxpayer money. i couldn't . staunch libertarian , . as a staunch libertarian, morally, i couldn't take the £20,000 of taxpayer money. god would you who would you dob in then? >> no, i do the deal. i'd get a hundred k and then i'd give someone , you know, would you someone, you know, would you give it to charity? >> would you to mermaids >> would you give it to mermaids or environmental journalism? or the environmental journalism? >> you just say mermaids? >> no. you'd give it to i'd. >> no. you'd give it to i'd. >> i it to black lives >> i give it to black lives matter. okay yes. i'd give 30 grand to black lives matter. i give mermaids 30 grand to

stonewall. to stonewall. i'd spend 30 grand on lawyers to get the tavistock green. oh, you got. >> you got. i've got. >> you got. i've got. >> yeah, you did. >> yeah, you did. >> you did like this game anymore . anymore. >> i love this game. this? yes >> i love this game. this? yes >> what do i have to say now? carry on. is it the easyjet ? carry on. is it the easyjet? >> oh. >> oh. >> oh, my, my auto easyjet staff have got have removed all its passengers of a flight to ibiza following a huge row involving a heavily pregnant woman. >> she was allegedly branded abusive by an air hostess before she will ever was abusive . she will ever was abusive. nowadays, aren't they by an air hostess before she was ejected along all the along with her family? all the passengers were made to leave the due to the situation. the plane due to the situation. what's your holiday what's your nightmare holiday story? is . story? here it is. >> hey, florence. getting off the plane the day . all right. the plane the day. all right. well, because of somebody thinking that they're better than everyone else. yeah because that's one person this is going all over the internet. all over i >> -- >> reem, are as staff, cabin

crew . that's the word i'm was crew. that's the word i'm was looking for. non binary, non binary . are they. are they binary. are they. are they getting better or worse. >> i think they're getting worse. and i've seen a few a couple of these stories on the internet where people have been horribly treated for that reason. i think also sometimes passengers can be a little bit too sensitive . actually, i'll too sensitive. actually, i'll take go even further . i take i'll go even further. i think be a little think everybody can be a little bit sensitive days. think everybody can be a little bit hangensitive days. think everybody can be a little bit hang on. ive days. think everybody can be a little bit hang on. she days. think everybody can be a little bit hang on. she was days. think everybody can be a little bit hang on. she was being >> hang on. she was being abused. the story abused. did you see the story about that pooed all about the guy that pooed all over the aeroplane he over the aeroplane because he had diarrhoea and then had explosive diarrhoea and then the staff had to clean it up mid—air, explode massive diarrhoea over the entire flight. delta airlines . flight. delta airlines. >> okay. sorry. i was just thanks for interrupting me with the story. really, really grateful you were finishing a point so well , grateful you were finishing a point so well, i mean i mean, i think narendra's just sort of summarise it right there. >> no, look, i think that, you know, people generally bit know, people generally are a bit too these too sensitive, these kind of stories horrible. stories are quite horrible. cabin tend to be, you know, cabin crew tend to be, you know, tend these days be a little bit

more woke as well. i think everyone a bit too sensitive everyone is a bit too sensitive just don't they everyone is a bit too sensitive just not don't they everyone is a bit too sensitive just not put don't they everyone is a bit too sensitive just not put with»n't they everyone is a bit too sensitive just not put with abuse.y everyone is a bit too sensitive justtheyput with abuse.y everyone is a bit too sensitive justthey are with abuse.y everyone is a bit too sensitive justthey are notvith abuse.y everyone is a bit too sensitive justthey are not they're|se.y >> they are not they're not there to put up with abuse on there to put up with abuse on the clock. hasn't hasn't gone on. >> now they did up next it is fox on the spot. >> see you

in the shemesh. we are back and i'm still with my panel. reem ibrahim and broadcasting nannder ibrahim and broadcasting narinder kaur right now in a fairly significant false alarm, police officers attended a call to a class being held at a cafe in the north england, in the north of england, mistakenly believing it to be the of mass was the site of a mass murder was it? no, it was a yoga class . the it? no, it was a yoga class. the person who raised the alarm mistook the yogis for victims of a and therefore notified a killing and therefore notified the police, quickly arrived the police, who quickly arrived in numbers . this is the in large numbers. this is the peak of human intelligence . peak of human intelligence. nannder peak of human intelligence. narinder kaur. >> i did my first yoga class

four weeks ago i thought it four weeks ago and i thought it was housewives doing sex was horny housewives doing sex positions in north london. >> i'm never going to be able to forget very much. >> it dirty . >> it was dirty. >> it was dirty. >> it was dirty. >> i think is fantastic, >> i think yoga is fantastic, but people are too but clearly people are too stupid . what stupid to understand. what they're doing. i also think the police are incredibly incompetent. >> are you trying to say that police mistake, know, police that mistake, you know, honest policeman mistakes honest policeman who mistakes a yoga because they're yoga class for because they're all trying to all lying there and trying to be like you would say, and like woke, as you would say, and they've candles lying down, they've got candles lying down, isn't woke. >> sleeping . strange >> they're sleeping. strange woman and they're sleeping and they've got candles on. it's dark. it could look like a murder scene . murder scene. >> which yoga class? she goes to this one. i love this one. >> lying on the ground in yoga is fantastic. >> you down. they talk >> it calms you down. they talk about your mental health and how good for mental good it is for your mental health, good it is for your health, how good it is for your physical me physical ability. it makes me hungry. it's quite difficult. i think but yoga think it's wonderful. but yoga is it's sex position, yoga, it's >> it's sex position, yoga, it's sex positions . oh, why does no sex positions. oh, why does no one agree anything? right now? >> i asked you to put you on the spot questions. since spot with any questions. since i'm spot, i'm excited i'm on the spot, i'm so excited to they've pulled i'm on the spot, i'm so excited to tonight they've pulled i'm on the spot, i'm so excited to tonight or they've pulled i'm on the spot, i'm so excited

to tonight or which y've pulled i'm on the spot, i'm so excited to tonight or which ones. ulled i'm on the spot, i'm so excited to tonight or which ones. okay, out tonight or which ones. okay, here we go. ran short for randolph . i've asked my bags. randolph. i've asked my bags. are they in or out this season? speaking of in or out, do you have an innie or an outie ? man have an innie or an outie? man bags. bags >> yeah. welcome to funky side . >> yeah. welcome to funky side. >> yeah. welcome to funky side. >> what's in, man bags? what's out? autism. so yes, i have an outie. i'm not going to show it. yeah. no, i won't. they'll get in trouble anyway . in trouble anyway. >> have you got an outie now, samantha ? samantha? >> uh, samantha. but preferences . sam preferences. i can call her. sam asks what's new, pussycat? >> i'm glad you added the cat. >> i'm glad you added the cat. >> what's new, pussycat ? well, >> what's new, pussycat? well, i've got my new gender affirming nick joiner from the from the surgery and lesley asks if you're travelling in a car at the speed of light and you turn the speed of light and you turn the lights on, does anything happen? now? i would say go and watch oppenheimer. that'll tell you the answer. and narinder kaur obviously our chemistry is

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good year on the throne? also, is boris johnson right in breaking quotes from his mail article in the next 24 hours? is he right that britain will never rejoin the eu ? what do you rejoin the eu? what do you think, mark, at cbnnews.com. plus it might take a ten. i'll be dealing with holly and phil from this morning. they're back in the news. find out why after the weather . a brighter outlook the weather. a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news evening . . gb news evening. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. for most of us, the hot spell continues this an this weekend. but with an increasing chance of seeing some big thunderstorms and eventually it will turn cooler into next week as this cold front approaches. but for the time being, we're between high pressure and low pressure and we still hot air in place. still have the hot air in place. a balmy evening out there ,1 still have the hot air in place. a balmy evening out there , 1 or a balmy evening out there, 1 or 2 very isolated thundery showers across parts of the west , but across parts of the west, but the staying dry.

the vast majority staying dry. well turn a little murky in places, a bit misty, particularly around the coasts through it's to through the west. and it's to going be a very warm night as well. holding up in well. temperatures holding up in towns cities in the mid towns and cities in the mid to high may not high teens. some spots may not drop below 20 celsius. so a very warm start to what will be a hot saturday. the main exception will the far northwest where will be the far northwest where it distinctly cooler it will be distinctly cooler than today. and as the day goes on, there is an increasing chance of seeing some thunderstorms breaking out across country across the hearts of the country . now, if see these . now, if we see these downpours, they could cause some problems. office problems. there is a met office warning in place, they're warning in place, but they're going and miss. going to be very hit and miss. most see them. most places won't see them. temperatures into temperatures again getting into the as i said the 30s, but as i said quite a bit cooler across north—west bit cooler across the north—west of where there will be of scotland where there will be more cloud outbreaks rain more cloud and outbreaks of rain . thunderstorms . still a few thunderstorms rumbling on through the night and a greater and into sunday. a greater chance more of these chance of seeing more of these downpours. of northern downpours. parts of northern england , north wales, maybe into england, north wales, maybe into southern with a chance southern scotland with a chance of thunderstorms. but even further import further south, we could import some france . but again, the some from france. but again, the majority see them. and majority won't see them. and again, for most another hot one,

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