banneh banner. is it time for us to officially we basically do that or not.7 also, i want to ask you about state pensions. they're going to affect each and every one of them. one of us. you're either collecting it right now or at some point you will be. there's an argument brewing there not this there about whether or not this should increased in line with should be increased in line with wages bonuses or not. also wages plus bonuses or not. also many people are saying that too many people are saying that too many pensioners are being pulled into paying tax because of basic pension plans, because sometimes people are getting a little bit more, i don't know, through work pension schemes or otherwise . so pension schemes or otherwise. so i'm asking you a simple question. when it comes state question. when it comes to state pension, that ever count pension, should that ever count towards taxable income in towards your taxable income in this country or not.7 and did you see what's happened over in peckham, shopkeeper has got peckham, a shopkeeper has got himself in a spot of bother,

basically by using force to defend his products in his shop . i'm asking, is it ever okay for shopkeepers to do that or not.7 and cctv , is there a place not.7 and cctv, is there a place anywhere where it should be forbidden? i'm asking because a school is in trouble for installing it in their toilets . installing it in their toilets. weird or basic? common sense, you get in touch and give me your thoughts. we'll have it all to come and more. but before we do that, let's bring ourselves up to speed with tonight's latest a legend latest headlines. with a legend that polly middlehurst . that is polly middlehurst. >> michelle, thank you. good evening to you. will the top story tonight, as you've been hearing, tobias ellwood has resigned as chair of the house of commons defence committee over taliban in over the so—called taliban in tourism video in a clip, he praised the taliban government in afghanistan. well gb news understands mr ellwood attended an informal meeting where he was asked to defend his comments. mps on the committee tabled a

vote then, of no confidence in him after his comments were published online in the bournemouth. east mp had chaired the committee since january 2020. that a developing story and more on it coming out all the time. we'll bring it to you, of course. now gb news understands the father, stepmother and uncle of sarah sharif are flying back to the uk tonight to face questions over her death. sarah's father and his partner fled to the uk , fled his partner fled to the uk, fled from the uk to rather, pakistan, after the ten year old little girl was found dead in the family home in woking in surrey on the 10th of august. surrey police are saying they now need to speak to sarah's family about her death and a man has been arrested after an 11 year old girl and two men were injured by an american excel bully crossbreed dog . and if you're crossbreed dog. and if you're watching on television, a warning . the following clip does warning. the following clip does contain images as contain graphic images as footage on social media. footage emerged on social media. here it is of the dog chasing and attacking people . this is in and attacking people. this is in

the birmingham area at the weekend. west midlands police are saying the 60 year old has been now arrested on suspicion of possessing a dog dangerously out of control . the former chief out of control. the former chief financial officer and three others from the collapsed bakery chain patisserie, valerie , have chain patisserie, valerie, have all been charged with conspiracy to defraud the serious fraud office says it's charged christopher marsh and his wife alongside a financial controller and financial consultant in relation to the alleged offences. the fraud office accusing them of conspiring to inflate the cash balance and the annual reports from 2015 and 2018 of allegedly also been tampered with. they're going to appear at westminster magistrates court next month . magistrates court next month. the chancellor says the government is sticking to his plan to halve inflation as the uk economy shrunk by 0.5% in july. jeremy hunt , though, says july. jeremy hunt, though, says he remains confident about the future of the uk economy, saying

the country has in fact quickly recovered from the pandemic and is also growing faster than countries like germany or italy. but labour says the economy's contraction is a failing of the government and sir keir starmer said today that the prime minister had failed the country. it was during a heated prime minister's question time he attacked rishi sunak's record on the criminal justice system education, immigration and security. it follows the escape of terror suspect daniel khalife and the china spy scandal in westminster . and the china spy scandal in westminster. sir keir and the china spy scandal in westminster . sir keir says the westminster. sir keir says the prime minister can't be trusted to protect the country . but to protect the country. but rishi sunak hit back , saying the rishi sunak hit back, saying the opposition leader was a politician without conviction on probation , prison schools, china probation, prison schools, china and yet again inaction . and yet again inaction. >> man fails to heed the warnings and then blames everyone else for the consequences . he's failing to consequences. he's failing to stop terrorists strolling out of prison, failing to guard britain against hostile actors .

prison, failing to guard britain against hostile actors. he's completely failing to stop the boats. how can anyone trust him to protect the country ? he mr to protect the country? he mr >> mr speaker , he he talks about >> mr speaker, he he talks about trust. he talks about action. just today, this government is taking action to reform defective eu laws to unlock over 100,000 homes. is boosting our economy, supporting jobs , and economy, supporting jobs, and ensuring that we can realise the aspirations of homeowners . it is aspirations of homeowners. it is typical of the principles free conviction, free type of leadership that he offers flip flopping from being a builder to a blocker. mr speaker, the british public can't trust a word he says that there was more pressure on the government today when the shadow environment secretary said nothing represent dated 13 years of conservative failure more graphically than the sight of what he called stinking toxic sewage, pouring into our rivers, lakes and seas. >> steve reid was saying tories

cut back on monitoring the water companies, but the government said they were clearing up the mess that labour left . now a man mess that labour left. now a man who plotted to kill her majesty the queen with a crossbow believed he had a purpose to do something dramatic. a court has been hearing jaswant singh chahal was found in the grounds of windsor castle on christmas day 2021, while the late queen was still in residence. he's being sentenced after pleading guilty to charges which include an offence under the treason act. here with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news. channel thank you very much for that. >> polly got a packed show coming your way in just a second. but before i get on to serious matters of the day, i must start my programme with an apology. everybody i must

apologise to all of those dogs. and crucially , those owners as and crucially, those owners as well. they were watching last night, if indeed they were upset by one of our well, more than one actually, quite frankly. viewers suggestions and the subsequent debate remodelling dogs, lots of you were not having absolutely any of it. you were. well you inundated me, quite frankly , with your little quite frankly, with your little fairy bundles saying, look, are these faces, michelle, how could anyone , anyone even consider anyone, anyone even consider vaguely muzzling these beauties ? roxy they're tom's dogs . ? roxy they're tom's dogs. they're anthony's dog. and pablo as well. oh, i'm sorry. they're anthony's dog. and pablo as well. oh, i'm sorry . you know as well. oh, i'm sorry. you know what? i hope that we are very much still friends . because you much still friends. because you know the drill, don't you? on dewbs& co. it's not just about us. it is very much about you guys home as well. i always guys at home as well. i always want to know what is on your mind. you can get in touch with me all the usual ways. email, of course. views. gbnews.com. course. gb views. gbnews.com. or you can tweet me at gb news if thatis you can tweet me at gb news if that is indeed your thing. anyway, i am joined tonight

right through till 7:00 by quentin letts, the journalist , quentin letts, the journalist, and aaron bastani, co—founder of novara media . welcome, gents. novara media. welcome, gents. you missed yesterday. so you don't you've upset people . well, don't you've upset people. well, the view dogs. the view is suggestion was talking about dangerous dogs. and a few of my viewers were saying that the answer was about dogs being muzzled in public. >> dog would eat a muzzle. >> our dog would eat a muzzle. >> our dog would eat a muzzle. >> would it? well, we've had stories about your dog. >> i'll you a picture of her. >> what else was your dog doing the other day? >> oh, she was. she bit the vicar? yes >> it was a few stories about your dog. i think i shall move on. she's a horror. i shall move on. she's a horror. i shall move on from dogs anyway. but i do you is very you know the drill. it is very much you guys at home. so much about you guys at home. so get touch with me tonight. get in touch with me tonight. but might seen the news but you might have seen the news that broke. probably about an hour ago. i think it was tobias ellwood. of course, you'll be familiar him if you don't familiar with him if you don't sit there and follow the twists and turns of what goes on in the westminster many people and turns of what goes on in the wes'be nster many people and turns of what goes on in the wes'be familiar many people and turns of what goes on in the wes'be familiar with many people and turns of what goes on in the wes'be familiar with him.( people and turns of what goes on in the wes'be familiar with him. heeople will be familiar with him. he was, the mp that

was, of course, the mp that tried i would incredibly tried and i would say incredibly bravely cpr on the police bravely to do cpr on the police officer. palmer officer. was it keith palmer from of course, that was from memory, of course, that was well, was very killed, well, he was very sadly killed, wasn't he? so tobias ellwood, he you be familiar the you might be familiar with the fact was also the fact that he was also the chairman defence select chairman of the defence select committee. you see committee. anyway, did you see what i would call, quite frankly, very strange, weird frankly, the very strange, weird video that he went on to do about taliban? let me just show you a little bit of it. if you didn't see it here in kabul, the streets are relatively safe. >> the checkpoints have all gone . businesses are reopening the economy starting to function. economy is starting to function. our british embassy just our british embassy is just through those gates over there. unfortunately it's still closed. >> there is a calm, though, to the country that local elders say they've not experienced since the 1970s. >> that's how long ordinary afghans have experienced war. >> so do we shout from afar and risk another era of instability, a rise in terrorism and mass migration all re—engage if the eu embassy can open up, so can

ours . oui's. >> ours. >> i don't know about you , but i >> i don't know about you, but i personally find that a little bit weird. many people were saying it's like some kind of proper gandhi style video, some kind of weird travel brochure and all the rest of it. quentin, i'll start with you. what did you make to it? >> you should leave if you're a politician, you should leave the tv the to the tv reporting to the to the journalists, the john journalists, to the john simpson's world, because simpson's of this world, because and you're and particularly so if you're the of select the chairman of a select committee, he straying into committee, he was straying into the sort of stuff that's just dangerous for a select committee chairman. if you're if you're a select committee chairman, you're there probably to you're there probably going to be as representing the be seen as representing the committee. therefore, it's committee. and therefore, it's not that some of the not surprising that some of the committee members said to daryl tobias, idol from tobias, the matinee idol from bournemouth he'd exceeded bournemouth, that he'd exceeded his his function. he's he's a good looking guy . his his function. he's he's a good looking guy. he's got an honourable army record, not necessarily a member of mensa . necessarily a member of mensa. and i'm afraid that a bit harsh. well it's true, though. he's he's not the brightest, but. and a brighter man would have seen

he was getting into trouble on this and he's gone tonight. he's resigned. it's very unusual for a select committee chairman to or chair, rather, to go . these or chair, rather, to go. these people have become sort of bishops of the back benches and this is quite a significant moment. i think. and it will perhaps stop select committee chairs being such show ponies. in recent years, some of them have become terrible, frightful show offs. >> i'm going to come back in a second to you. >> just about the taliban more generally, case generally, but just in case you're not familiar at home, what to happen? what was going to happen? there was so this video was going to be. so this video was going to be. so this video was basically, as he it on was basically, as he put it on his twitter, this was before summer recess. then what they needed to is come back after needed to do is come back after the summer recess and have a vote no confidence was the summer recess and have a voteto no confidence was the summer recess and have a voteto take :onfidence was the summer recess and have a voteto take place. nce was the summer recess and have a voteto take place.n(think was the summer recess and have a voteto take place.n(think itvas due to take place. i think it was he decided that was tomorrow. he decided that before that vote, he was going to essentially go before some would was going be would say he was going to be pushed. will get on to the pushed. i will get on to the nuances the taliban in nuances of the taliban in a second. just on the tobias second. but just on the tobias ellwood point festival, do you think have done those think he should have done those kind videos? think he should have done those kin�*i videos? think he should have done those kin�*i videverything quentin think he should have done those

kin�*isaid id everything quentin think he should have done those kin�*isaid aboutything quentin think he should have done those kin�*isaid about his ng quentin think he should have done those kin�*isaid about his ng qinntin just said about his role in terms of chairing a select committee be completely committee should be completely off mean, on the off boundaries. i mean, on the substance of what he said, i probably agree on most of what he said there. i think the tone you i think we should have diplomatic the diplomatic relations with the country, was the home to country, which was the home to people masterminds of a people who were masterminds of a terrorist atrocity in 2001 because you want to be collecting intelligence on those people. you want to be ensuring that nationals who, for that british nationals who, for whatever that british nationals who, for whatiarrested, kidnapped in lost, arrested, kidnapped in afghanistan. you have a line of communication that communication with that government . so i certainly think government. so i certainly think you want some kind of diplomatic presence there. i don't think that means you start doing soft soap, tv adverts about how soap, quasi tv adverts about how wonderful afghanistan is, because isn't . but i think because it isn't. but i think these are two separate points. i think it's in the national interest to have a some kind of diplomatic there for sure. >> so would sure. » so sure. >> so look like >> so what would that look like when say some sort of when you say some sort of diplomatic presence? like what? i embassy? i think an embassy? >> yeah, think an just >> yeah, i think an embassy just do europeans done. do what the europeans have done. the done i mean, that is the eu has done i mean, that is not so outlandish. and like i said, there's two aspects to

that. intelligence that. the first intelligence gathering know what's gathering we want to know what's happening afghanistan. we happening inside afghanistan. we want jockeying want to know who's jockeying for what their what positions amongst their political given what political elite, given what happened we happened in 2001. secondly, we want and want to be ensuring and guaranteeing safety of guaranteeing the safety of british nationals that happen to be journalists and be their journalists and venturers who perhaps have made an unwise decision, whatever. so i think he was right on some of these things. he was obviously wrong about many of them. and i think tone was obviously think the tone was obviously idiotic , frankly, as well. and idiotic, frankly, as well. and like you say, i think any reasonable politician have reasonable politician would have seen response off. seen the response a mile off. but it's shame because that's but it's a shame because that's then muddied think then muddied what i think actually is a controversial but ultimately sensible point. >> you about >> and what do you make about this suggestion that we somehow , don't know, make friends ? , i don't know, make friends? i'm paraphrasing little bit, i'm paraphrasing a little bit, but friends with but make friends a bit more with the taliban all rest the taliban and all the rest of it. >> we've h- h— h to be very wary of >> we've got to be very wary of the taliban. of course we have. but we've got to we've got to be sort sensible and serious sort of sensible and serious about you're about this. and if you're talking about government of talking about the government of an country like an important country like afghanistan, strategically, an important country like afghani important, gically, an important country like afghani important, gicallyou've terribly important, then you've got to have some of got to have some sort of relationship with and the

relationship with them. and the same way that the major government the blair government and the blair government and the blair government talked to sinn fein . government talked to sinn fein. and ira, you've got to sometimes hold your nose and deal with some very smelly people. we have diplomatic relations with vladimir russia and vladimir putin's russia and quite too. so there has quite right, too. so there has to be some sort of dialogue, but it doesn't include some chump going there, pretending to be john simpson. and within half a minute of ellwood putting his self—serving video out on twitter, the afghan government was saying, look, we're great guys. was saying, look, we're great guys . well, you know, that just guys. well, you know, that just showed that it was a complete propaganda own goal. >> you know, it seemed to like tobias ellwood. i i like him very much as a person. >> perfectly happy to chat to >> i perfectly happy to chat to him, have a coffee with him, all that. i just think he's been that. but i just think he's been a you agree with that? a fool. do you agree with that? >> has he been a fool? this wasn't it this video for like, wasn't it this video for like, was it the halo? was it the halo? >> well, may well have been >> well, it may well have been on think that's all on that, but i think that's all been lost sight of, hasn't it? it's just all about tobias. it

very often is all about the politician and there has recently been this tendency of select because select committee chairs because being terribly self—promotional and runs the and as a lady who runs the foreign select committee foreign affairs select committee at , my goodness, at the moment, my goodness, she's all she she thinks of she's all she she just thinks of it a complete vehicle her it as a complete vehicle for her own glory. it should be own greater glory. it should be about serious stuff, about much more serious stuff, andifs about much more serious stuff, and it's about consideration of the committee who are well informed people about foreign affairs and in this case the defence committee and ed tobias has stepped landmine . has stepped on a landmine. >> yeah, mean, i've got to >> yeah, i mean, i've got to say, i do think of say, i do think that a lot of mps somehow they do seem to think they are some kind of celebrity at this moment in time, which i personally don't like because i think you're not a celebrity. >> you're a public servant. and i think all of this kind of all, you know, your tv presenters, you're writing your books, you're writing your books, you're going on your reality tv shows. think it's going shows. i think it's going to people's yeah don't people's heads. yeah i don't know i've quite got on to know how i've quite got on to that topic, actually, that new i mean, keith vaz was terrible about this to keith vaz used to run that the washing machine filled from memory.

>> he then had a little misfortune, to run misfortune, but he used to run the home affairs select committee. important committee. really important serious and was serious committee. and it was just the vaz show. just it was the keith vaz show. >> you not think >> disgraceful. do you not think it's though? it's getting worse, though? because people because now, of course, people want that one minute clip they can tiktok instagram can put on tiktok or instagram or facebook. and or twitter or facebook. and i think reduces a really think it reduces a really important function to important function in to a mediatised product, which increasingly like this increasingly feels like this is the preface to a career in podcasting or hosting gmb in the mornings , when of course, mornings, when of course, actually that job of chairing a select committee is far more important. >> they get extra smarties as well for doing this. of course they get an extra 16 £17,000 for being chairing a committee. being for chairing a committee. not . not bad. >> n not bad. >> i guess the gb news >> but also i guess the gb news the i think he's doing a subtle hint that he wants a pay rise. there i don't know if anyone picked up on that. i did. but i guess the flip side, the flip side, i think of what i was just saying, if i may of devil's saying, if i may kind of devil's advocate, i guess you've got five year terms after that. you could essentially unemployed could essentially be unemployed . tricky. how do you . it's very tricky. how do you go to just, go from being an mp to just, i don't random give us the

don't know, random give us the violin, michelle. don't know, random give us the vio|giveiichelle. don't know, random give us the vio|give us elle. don't know, random give us the vio|give us the. don't know, random give us the vio|give us the violin. what? >> give us the violin. what? >> give us the violin. what? >> i'm playing devil's office. >> i'm playing devil's office. >> mean, that's danger. >> i mean, that's the danger. that's that's the game. >> is it? well, i don't know. you get touch and you give me you get in touch and you give me your thoughts on that after the break. to you break. i want to talk to you about pensions. if you're on about pensions. if you're not on it we're all going to it already, we're all going to be affected by this, aren't we? i'm asking you, do you think that there increase it that there should be increase it basically bonuses? basically by wages plus bonuses? thatis basically by wages plus bonuses? that is argument that's that is the argument that's about roll. and do you about to roll. and also, do you think state pension think that your state pension should towards your should count towards your taxable this country? taxable income in this country? yes you

radio. >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till seven alongside me. the man that i just remembered last time i was talking to him, he was talking to me about his wife's knickknacks. do you remember that? anybody? quinton let's is alongside aaron alongside me, as is aaron bastani , the co—founder of bastani, the co—founder of novara media. lots of you getting in touch with me very randomly about coconut mushrooms. if you've only just tuned in, you'll have no idea

what i was talking about. i'll just about nana just reminiscing about my nana used to me coconut used to give me coconut mushrooms. remember those mushrooms. do you remember those sweets? mushrooms. do you remember those swee'were lee about tobias they were lee about tobias ellwood. he says if tobias ellwood. he says if tobias ellwood was telling the truth about the taliban, what's the problem, everybody? well some might say that actually talking about taliban things about the taliban and things like many solar panels like how many solar panels they've and all rest they've put in and all the rest of of misses the point of it kind of misses the point when they're doing things like not letting girls go school when they're doing things like not alling girls go school when they're doing things like not all the girls go school when they're doing things like not all the rest go school when they're doing things like not all the rest goit. school when they're doing things like not all the rest goit. i;chool when they're doing things like not all the rest goit. i think and all the rest of it. i think thatis and all the rest of it. i think that is more the problem. lee sandra says when i saw that video some weeks ago, i couldn't believe my eyes. she said to me, she just confirmed the impression i've already got, which we've got which is that we've got a government incompetents which is that we've got a government incompetent s who government of incompetent s who have idea what they are have got no idea what they are doing. say, mac says i've doing. gotta say, mac says i've never buy as being never liked to buy as being honest, but on this occasion i don't agree with what people are saying. supports tobias and saying. he supports tobias and chris says michelle, if tobias tobias ellwood feels safe in tobias ellwood feels so safe in afghanistan , why was he afghanistan, why was he wandering around wearing a bullet—proof vest ? bullet—proof vest? >> one. >> one. >> that's a very good point. yes

i'll give you that one. right. let's talk pensions, shall we? pensioners apparently will lose a of their state pension a chunk of their state pension boost next year because of what some people are calling a stealth tax. you'll all be familiar with the triple familiar by now with the triple lock it basically says that the pensions have to increase each year by one of the things. it all gets a bit complicated, but it's basically either inflation wage growth or 2.5. one of the issues or one of the challenges that people are now saying is that people are now saying is that when you look at the wage figure and you have wages plus bonuses and it's this that people are now arguing. so i think what the suggestion is that the tories are going to, instead of raising it by wages plus bonuses, they want to strip it back and just do wages. yeah. where do you stand on it? >> aaron yes, really interesting because i think wage changes, maybe you can correct me, this came out yesterday, right? wages went up 7.4. but of course, we've had so many of these settlements recently because of industrial disputes whatnot settlements recently because of incwellal disputes whatnot settlements recently because of incwellal

incwellal wages , including bonuses, >> but wages, including bonuses, this is the issue that is 8.5. >> . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> which is you know, it's significantly higher than inflation for the first time in a long time. but i would get rid of the triple lock personally. i think it's daft. >> oh , i can hear you all at home. >> i can hear you absolutely screaming at him. but hold on. >> hold on. i would index it to inflation. and i think there's a pretty if you're a progressive, there's an argument to, say indexit there's an argument to, say index it to inflation plus 1% or something like that. if you want to reduce pension poverty. what i is this kind of i don't get is this kind of arcane system of inflation or wages 2.5. and that third wages or 2.5. and that third part, crucial part, the 2.5, is crucial because what it really crystallises is that this policy presumes that we would have low inflation and low wages like we did in 2010. all the time, and which is when it was introduced, the triple lock was introduced in 2010, which we don't. and i think it was introduced in think when it was introduced in 2010, calculated to

2010, 2011, it was calculated to cost £450 million. now this increase is estimated to cost £102 increase is estimated to cost £10.2 billion. we need to do something about pensioner poverty. i think that i'm sure we all agree on that. i think most people watching and listening agree on that. the question is, is the triple lock the best way of doing that? so i think simplify it and i think just index it to inflation. >> anne, what do you reckon to that? that fair or not? that? is that fair or not? >> it's a very tricky >> quentin it's a very tricky question. believe question. i personally believe in i want have lower taxes in i want to have lower taxes generally, i want to lower generally, i want to have lower government spending, i have government spending, but i have an old of 88 and i know that an old ma of 88 and i know that people when they get older, need to spend on heating. they to spend more on heating. they have more calls on, they need a bit more money in to order survive in a comfortable way . so survive in a comfortable way. so it's a really tricky one. this we haven't yet heard what for sure the two parties are the two main parties are going to do on this in the next general election. well, they're they're being a little bit unclear about it the moment. but can we it at the moment. but can we afford as a nation, the current pensions bill? well, i think we

can just about at the moment. but as the population, as the demographic bulge comes up, but as the population, as the demographic bulge comes up , then demographic bulge comes up, then it's going to become increasingly difficult. and so i find myself a little bit torn about this. i think at the moment it's politically electoral suicide to fiddle about with this. and so that means it probably won't happen. >> and that is the key point, isn't it? because it's all well and good talking about tinkering this the rest of it, but this and all the rest of it, but really, i don't think any party literally run up an literally in the run up to an election has the chops to sit there right, we're there and say, right, we're going and going to change this and potentially therefore it potentially therefore reduce it because the turnout of the older demographic is huge compared to the turnout of the younger demographic. i want to just demographic. i just want to just move slightly, related move on slightly, but related because when it comes to pensions there's lots of pensions, there's lots of conversations about pensioners being tax brackets. being pulled into tax brackets. i'll just bring up the tax brackets those you that brackets for those of you that might be familiar with them. might not be familiar with them. you you get £12,570 at you can see you get £12,570 at zero rate and then you go up to 20. when you go over that threshold , but up to 50% that is

threshold, but up to 50% that is in england, wales and northern ireland over in scotland it does alter quite a little bit. you've got a couple of extra bands there, give or take 1, but still that 12,005 seven is tax free. some people are saying that your state pension should be basically exempt from counting towards your taxable income. so if all you get is your state pension and you're under the threshold, you know it's irrelevant. but if you get your state pension, then a little small workplace pension or whatever, to start whatever, you're going to start getting you getting taxed on stuff. do you think state pensions should be excluded counting towards excluded from counting towards your income? i think there's a strong argument for it. >> i think if somebody is relying on the state pension plus like you say, a small private they do some private pension or they do some you know, they work two days a week or something, week at waitrose or something, i think there's a strong argument for it. i'm very even as a socialist, michel. i'm very reticent increase reticent right now to increase any really on people on any taxes really on people on low incomes or pensioners. i think if we're going to increase

taxes anywhere, it needs to be on something like capital gains. it might need to be on a land value tax, maybe a small financial transactions tax . now, financial transactions tax. now, i these are all very i know these are all very controversial. i appreciate that. i if we're that. but i think if we're putting those anywhere in the economy, well, you always come after the so—called wealth. well, you know what i well, well, you know what i would say is when people say, well, don't go off on tangents because debate this all the time, like time, but it's something like the top, top 10% pay something like 60% the tax take. like 60% of the tax take. >> and i'm like, how much more do want people to pay? but do you want people to pay? but anyway, going on a bit of tangent. >> so no. so i'll clarify what i mean. you know, rates of income tax, generally speaking, are lower than rates of capital gains so if somebody has gains tax. so if somebody has a third they sell it, third house and they sell it, the tax they're the the tax they're paying on the revenues that's generated for them person is them as a person is significantly lower if significantly lower than if somebody money somebody earned that money working then let's working for it. but then let's let's not that the money let's not forget that the money that got. that they've got. >> but the money >> yeah, but the money that they've to said asset, they've used to buy said asset, that's apparently appreciated in value been taxable all income. >> i appreciate that. >> i appreciate that.

>> think if your work is >> but i think if your work is being at a higher level, being taxed at a higher level, i think that's wrong. >> well, we always have this argument, you're to argument, don't we? you're to going you think. going tell me what you think. but quentin, this but anyway, quentin, on this issue state pension being issue of the state pension being essentially excluded from. i'm counting taxable counting towards your taxable income. can't do that. >> yeah, you can't do that. it's income income. sound like income is income. i sound like some ghastly accountant, but i'm afraid i tax. afraid that is. i hate tax. i can't tell the viewers how much i hate tax, but income has to count as income wherever it comes and the important comes from. and the important thing tax is you're thing with tax is if you're going have exemptions going to have tax exemptions when it comes to pensions, that has be at point at which has to be at the point at which people are putting so people are putting in money. so therefore, you're encouraging people to save youngsters, to save that can save for the future. that i can see is tax exemptions will see is where tax exemptions will work for pensions. >> vernon michelle, why can't any of you lot tell the truth ? any of you lot tell the truth? >> he asks. he says it's not the fact that the state pension increases is expensive, but it's more the fact that basically everyone and anyone gets that increase . yes, he's saying, increase. yes, he's saying, including millionaire pensioners. what you're asking then, vernon, is means tested

pensions would you support that? >> there aren't that many millionaire pensioners at and i just i don't think they are significant enough group for it to be relevant here. john makes an interesting point. >> he says, why is this government intent on chipping away at the people that don't have very much the things like state pensions when on the other hand they confetti ing money around millions of pounds per day on housing. people in hotels and all the rest of it, that some would argue shouldn't even be here in the first place. you took the words out of the mouth of a lot of my viewers. >> but the thing is, they're not chiselling away. i mean, it's likely indications at likely there's indications at the government the moment are that government is with this. is to going stay with this. but there's you an there's quite a you know, an interesting conversation in westminster at the moment saying perhaps all perhaps we, you know, all parties saying perhaps, maybe things expensive. >> expensive. » n expensive. >> i was >> well, there you go. i was just about to make a hilarious segue into the weather, but i was rudely interrupted by quentin. i've lost my train of

thought, so i won't be hilarious. i'll just give you the weather instead . the weather instead. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news alex deakin weather on. gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> a three way split with the weather tomorrow. quite blustery start, of course, particularly in northern scotland. many places with sunny spells, places dry with sunny spells, but across parts northern but across parts of northern england, wales staying england, north wales staying fairly . it'll be fairly dull tonight. it'll be wet and windy across much of scotland northern ireland scotland and northern ireland thanks area of low thanks to this area of low pressure, the strongest winds across the western through across the western isles through the then moving the evening and then moving across northern parts of across northern most parts of the during the early the mainland during the early hours, the rain will trickle its way northern england and way into northern england and nonh way into northern england and north , where it will north wales, where it will unger north wales, where it will linger for of tomorrow. but linger for most of tomorrow. but further stays dry, further south stays largely dry, still warm. temperatures still quite warm. temperatures holding up into the teens , but holding up into the teens, but not warmth and humidity that not the warmth and humidity that we had last week into thursday. as i said, a bit of a three way split, mostly fine in the south, mostly fine across scotland and

northern just few northern ireland. just a few showers it'll still showers in the west. it'll still be windy early on, but this be very windy early on, but this zone of cloud lingering from parts of lincolnshire to yorkshire through yorkshire across through lancashire north lancashire and across north wales will generate some outbreaks of rain on and off as well . either side of that in the well. either side of that in the sunny spells feeling quite pleasant, quite again pleasant, but quite warm again in south, 24, further in the south, 23 to 24, further north, high teens generally that zone of and damp weather zone of dull and damp weather has shifted by friday. so has just shifted by friday. so quite grey, day quite a grey, soggy day for southern and northern southern scotland and northern ireland. the far north, a dry and bright by the odd shower and most of england and wales set fair on friday. only 1 or 2 isolated showers in the afternoon soon cool that afternoon soon cool where that rain but turning rain persists, but turning warmer more humid once more warmer and more humid once more across the south. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> well, there you go. is it going to be nice weather wherever you are, get in touch. are you happy about the weather at the moment? there's global

boiling. is upon us or not? boiling. is it upon us or not? dale why do we always have dale says. why do we always have to have a discussion regarding state pensions? michelle and it's taxpayers it's cost the taxpayers and every the cost of public every debate the cost of public sector pensions. what about those things? well i've got to say, i do often raise the fact that there's 20 odd% pensions in various sectors and occupations is it affordable? i don't know . is it affordable? i don't know. we can pick that up another day. absolutely simon said. there are many , many pensioners that are many, many pensioners that are millionaires and those people do not need an increase and they should have their pensions means tested . and i don't know, you tested. and i don't know, you know, because actually if you've worked and you've paid your serps, you paid national serps, you paid your national insurance, it is , why insurance, whatever it is, why should you be then exempt from getting back just getting that money back just because you've happened to do well be successful? well, well and be successful? well, and too, in addition and anna bob too, in addition to, i don't know, you get in touch, the final touch, you can have the final say. vaiews@gbnews.com lots coming as have coming your way as well. have you seen what's going on in peckham london? it's all been peckham in london? it's all been kicking you because kicking off, you know, because a shopkeeper admittedly

shopkeeper used admittedly a little intense force to try little bit intense force to try and stop someone attempting potentially to leave a store with some goods. do you think shopkeepers should be able to use force to protect their wares? this day and age? you wares? in this day and age? you get you get in touch. you

news radio. >> hi there. welcome back to dewbs& co with me, michelle dewberry quentin letts, the journalist alongside me, as is aaron bastani, a co—founder of novara media . dean says, i'm novara media. dean says, i'm a pensioner only just, he says, but i work two days a week and he's now saying basically that he's now saying basically that he is having to pay a tax. he doesn't appreciate it. and he's querying whether or not you're going to de—incentivize people essentially to essentially when it comes to getting back the world of getting back into the world of work, apparently our work, which apparently our government we need government say that we do need to apparently until older to apparently work until older in . jeff says no . why on in life. jeff says no. why on earth should we have to pay any tax at all on our pensions ? tax at all on our pensions? brian, why on earth shouldn't pensioners get a rise in line

with wages? surely that is fair. just a little thing to think about there because a lot of people criticise people's bonuses, don't they, in this day and age you've got to be careful what you wish for, you know, because this the debate about because this is the debate about whether those bonuses whether or not those bonuses should included in the should be included in the pension or not. ben says pension rise or not. ben says you could fund all this by you could fund all of this by subsidising and basically cutting the civil service pension contributions . there's pension contributions. there's lots of you getting in touch and basically saying that you of worth all your lives and your pension is something that you absolutely deserve and stop calling it a benefit . right? calling it a benefit. right? have you seen what's going on in peckham in london? it's basically all over social media. it's been talked about in lots of places today. long story short , it's a very heated short, it's a very heated exchange which seems to have occurred in it's like a hair accessory shop, basically. this is in peckham in south—east london. now, i do have to be clear about this. this is an ongoing legal investigation. so that restricts us slightly in

what we can comment upon this. but you've got this shopkeeper . but you've got this shopkeeper. a long story short, the allegation is that a customer went in and she wanted to get a refund on summit. the guy said, no, can't. that's not the no, you can't. that's not the policy or whatever. and she was apparently rude in his words. um, then said, well, um, she's then said, well, apparently these are all allegations, that apparently these are all alleg.going that apparently these are all alleg.going go that apparently these are all alleg.going go and that apparently these are all alleg.going go and take some she's going to go and take some goods to the item of or whatever. shopkeeper wasn't whatever. our shopkeeper wasn't really having any of that decides to stand at the exit and physically prevent her from leaving. there's a bit of jostling, bit of toing and jostling, a bit of toing and froing rest of it. froing and all the rest of it. long short, i say, is long story short, i must say, is quite horrible to watch. actually. he does lose control of himself a little and he of himself a little bit and he puts on woman's puts his arm on this woman's throat rest of it throat and all the rest of it only for a few seconds, i must add. and then he kind of anyway, the woman is, you know, walloping him, to put it mildly , could get , with whatever she could get her hands on. it looks to me shopping baskets and everything, bagging handbagging. there's bagging handbagging. so there's a here. i mean, a couple of points here. i mean, this is the footage as well that you're that you're seeing. i

mean, that's not nice, is it? i mean, that's not nice, is it? i mean, i really feel for shopkeepers . so do i. shopkeepers. so do i. >> but i mean , that earlier >> but i mean, that earlier stuff about when he gets around the neck, it's a bit like watching the old saturday afternoon wrestling on itv. we want kent walton there, too, telling us tell us what's happening with big daddy. my natural sympathies would normally be with the shop keepen normally be with the shop keeper, but i don't know. peckham i don't know that store. i don't know what happened in full. so maybe don't worry too much about don't worry too much about specifics of this incident because really get because i can't really get into specifics because of specifics too much because of legal reasons. >> ongoing, but more >> it's ongoing, but more broadly, do think because broadly, do you think because let's it, right now and let's face it, right now and i'm talking generally about this talking generally not about this specific incident, shoplifting rates are going through the roof. lot of people in roof. there's a lot of people in this society. don't give this society. they don't give a if they think they can wander into store help themselves into a store and help themselves to much whatever it is to pretty much whatever it is that takes their fancy. they know police aren't that takes their fancy. they know to police aren't that takes their fancy. they know to come. police aren't that takes their fancy. they know to come. and)olice aren't that takes their fancy. they know to come. and iflice aren't that takes their fancy. they know to come. and if they ren't that takes their fancy. they know to come. and if they do 't going to come. and if they do come, the chances of them actually caught in actually being caught or in

trouble whatever very trouble or whatever is very slim. you're a shopkeeper slim. so if you're a shopkeeper now, do have defend now, do you have to defend yourself, your your wares ? >> 7- >> yeah, i ? >> yeah, i guess you do. 7 >> yeah, i guess you do. and shoplifting has become the new i mean, it's a national sport almost now. the big almost now. and the big supermarkets are complaining that them very that it's affecting them very badly. it's partly their badly. maybe it's partly their fault introducing self fault for introducing self checkouts. you know, if they hadnt checkouts. you know, if they hadn't got rid of a lot of staff that way, then maybe things wouldn't have got so bad. but. the the, the shopkeepers must be having a devil of a time at the moment trying to make sure that the, the stock doesn't walk out of the door. >> indeed, aaron. >> indeed, aaron. >> yeah. i mean, there's been a massive rise in private prosecutions businesses, prosecutions by businesses, particularly , particularly in the west end, for retailers are for instance. big retailers are having this because having to do this because basically nothing happens to those are of those who are guilty of shoplifting. there's two shoplifting. i think there's two sides the first is we sides to this. the first is we live very high inequality live in a very high inequality society. we have society. the second is we have quite weak policing on this stuff. and think realistically stuff. and i think realistically , have both. that's , you can't have both. that's not how societies generally function. think that function. i think we know that in lower societies in lower inequality societies you have less of this kind of

everyday conflict. course, it everyday conflict. of course, it doesn't ever disappear, but it's lower onto lower and it indexes onto inequality. of stuff . inequality. this kind of stuff. i'm not saying it's causal, but it correlates . yes, but i think it correlates. yes, but i think you can't have a high inequality society and like like i say, a very liberal society with regards to policing. you probably would to move to probably would need to move to a more heavily policed society. now, think , frankly, a big now, i think, frankly, a big part of it as well is the technology to that. over the last 20 years, we've really seen a relationships a disinter of relationships between in commerce and consumption, which are human, i think dehumanising that whether it's through say, self it's through like say, self checkouts online commerce checkouts or online commerce depersonalising i think has huge overheads which we'll be talking aboutin overheads which we'll be talking about in 20, years time. about in 20, 30, 40 years time. um, finish with as well um, what i'd finish with as well is with this particular instance , claim is that the , it's the claim is that the owners are, i believe south asian , although this particular asian, although this particular store a store is co—owned with a jamaican man apparently, and the claim is that the customers who are primarily of afro—caribbean heritage believe that they're racially profiled. when they go in, as suspects in, they're seen as suspects of criminality even

criminality before they've even looked at the wares. so there's multiple layers here. well, you tee me up. >> well, because it's all been kicking off there and there's protests happening outside this shop. uke protests happening outside this shop. like shut it shop. the shop is like shut it up, basically. let's just have a little look. black women, you're here, right? little look. black women, you're heryeah.it? know how we >> yeah. do you know how we usually of angry black women? >> angry black women today ? i >> angry black women today? i don't know if you ever felt that you needed the permission to be angry, i'm asking today. angry, but i'm asking you today. are yes i can't hear are you angry? yes i can't hear you. are you angry? yes. yes we have every right to be well , have every right to be well, that is. >> it's quite a zelenskyy professional troublemaker to me i >> -- >> that one. >> that one. >> go on. why >> go on. why >> you know, not. not. it's not everyone who has an electric microphone like a megaphone like that. microphone like a megaphone like that . i microphone like a megaphone like that. i don't microphone like a megaphone like that . i don't know. that just that. i don't know. that just smacked of agitation to me. but then a lot of people within the black community, they are saying , i mean, i don't know if i've got any pictures of this front of the store. >> i've got any if not, if i do, can i bring them up? because the front of this store has been

plastered, ed, with all of these i don't know what you call them like just messages or whatever, like just messages or whatever, like us like touch one, you touch us all. black lives matter and black women matter . all this and black women matter. all this and all that and all the other. so this has been very, very much turned into an issue of racism. now, there protesting have i got some of the protests? is many more of the process. i think they're demanding that the shop is closed down. yeah, you can't really hear i've got the sound on this so i've got you can on this so i've got it. you can hear it. no, there's no sound. but anyway, long story short, they're shouting basically, shut but anyway, long story short, th down. houting basically, shut but anyway, long story short, thdown. shutng basically, shut but anyway, long story short, th down. shut it basically, shut but anyway, long story short, th down. shut it down,|lly, shut but anyway, long story short, th down. shut it down, shutrhut it down. shut it down, shut it down. you think that's down. do you think that's intimidation or natural? genuine well, obviously well, i think there's obviously there's there's there's a line between there's always protest always a line between protest and intimidation. >> i think what they've done there sticking there with regards to sticking stuff is quite stuff on the front is quite peaceful quite powerful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd quite powerful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd also quite powerful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd also saye powerful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd also say is, owerful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd also say is, you�*ful. stuff on the front is quite peacei'd also say is, you know, what i'd also say is, you know, you you can't assault your you can't you can't assault your customers. this is a business which heavily used by people which is heavily used by people of heritage. of afro—caribbean heritage. there is no business on earth where or somebody where the shop owner or somebody who works in the store can go around using that kind of

inappropriate force people around using that kind of inap go priate force people around using that kind of inap go there force people around using that kind of inap go there and; people around using that kind of inap go there and; pe there that go there and expect there not to be a consequence if there wasn't consequence. wasn't a consequence. >> easy you to >> that's very easy for you to say, sitting in the comfort of a chair studio, it's very chair in a tv studio, it's very easy to say you can't go around assaulting customers. no one said no one mandy said no, but no one said mandy would you can assault would think you can assault a customer, right? so that's the first thing. and i've got to confess, saw him and it confess, when i saw him and it was momentarily, know, he was momentarily, you know, he wasn't kill this wasn't trying to kill this person did person momentarily he did try and her holding her and restrain her by holding her neck. that was deeply neck. and that was deeply inappropriate. made me very inappropriate. it made me very uncomfortable. there's no excuse for how ever this fella is for that. how ever this fella is being repeatedly over being smashed repeatedly over the head with a basket . you see the head with a basket. you see the head with a basket. you see the footage. at another point, he's walked away. he's got his back to her. she's whacking him over over and over over and over and over and over again he's trying to get again when he's trying to get away. and what you actually then see in one of these clips is you got who happen got fellow customers who happen to themselves. are to be black themselves. they are trying to tell the customer, calm down, stop, stop . so whilst calm down, stop, stop. so whilst i would agree that you can't go around assaulting customers, obviously when you are getting

whacked over and over again like that, you can see him. he's standing there. what do you want people to do? >> i think there's two points here. so firstly, i think there's obviously the angle of a man assaulting a woman like that. think that. i just i just don't think it's defensible, really, unless he's to look at he's literally having to look at what she's doing, defending. well, don't think that well, i don't i don't think that warrants he did. just warrants what he did. i just don't it i don't don't think it does. i don't think it's appropriate for us. i'd call the and that's i'd call the police and that's isn't that the police are isn't that what the police are for? that now need? for? this idea that we now need? >> please give me a break. you're going call the police? you're going to call the police? i'm what? hold when i'm what? but hold on. when they're up, what, they're going to rock up, what, two later and give you a two days later and give you a crime number? >> that's separate point. >> that's a separate point. i agree. i it's a separate agree. i agree. it's a separate point. look, assaulted on point. look, i was assaulted on the street. i'll be totally honest. police are going honest. the police are going to do by, you know, do sweet for by by, you know, some little charlatan. and on midday doing nothing when i just left so i agree with left my home. so i agree with that. not that lady's that. but that's not that lady's fault. i think as society, fault. i think as a society, that's police need to that's when the police need to step in and they're not. >> well, look, police >> well, look, the police inquiry take its natural inquiry will take its natural course, that is. so course, whatever that is. so

we're going speculate on we're not going to speculate on any but i'll say this, any outcomes. but i'll say this, i'm how i'm always fascinated by how quick immediately quick people are to immediately call something racist. i would ask you're watching ask you, if you're watching that and that opinion and and you do have that opinion and i many people do, that that i know many people do, that that was a racist assault. please enlighten me. educate how was a racist assault. please enli�*itten me. educate how was a racist assault. please enli�*it racist?. educate how was a racist assault. please enli�*it racist? how cate how was a racist assault. please enli�*it racist? how doe how was a racist assault. please enli�*it racist? how do people ow was it racist? how do people know guy behaved in know that that guy behaved in that because of the skin that way? because of the skin tone person? how you tone of a person? how do you know it wasn't a shopkeeper know that it wasn't a shopkeeper that was just trying to stop someone leaving their stock and would have done that with anyone? white. anyone? man woman, black, white. i fascinated if i don't know. i'm fascinated if you think that is racist and you do think that is racist and many people will, how do you know what is that makes know that? what is it that makes you feel like that? get in touch. let me know. anyway, i want talk about cctv. want to talk to you about cctv. you've just seen a good example of it. there do you think there

hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. quentin letts alongside me, as is aaron bastani . listen, some is aaron bastani. listen, some parents are absolutely furious

and have threatened to pull their kids out of a school. why? because long story short, concerned about anti—social behaviour in the toilets . behaviour in the toilets. they've now put cctv , not in the they've now put cctv, not in the cubicles. everyone worry not, but more in the kind of, you know, the areas outside the cubicles. they saying that a lot of people requested this because of people requested this because of anti—social behaviour and all the of some parents the rest of it. some parents completely support others completely support it. others obviously not. what do you obviously do not. what do you think cctv has got any business in toilet? >> no , certainly not. kids >> no, certainly not. kids toilets. not kids in the cubicle? >> no. >> no. >> for goodness sake, these are children and i can see maybe in a high, high spec prison, this might be desirable. i loathed cctv cameras. we never used to have them. we used to survive perfectly well. and i would willingly snip their cables, castrate the cameras and there was a there used to be a traffic camera in a village near us. and it got blown up by arsonists one day and everyone was cheering. we've had too much. are you too

much undercover ? much undercover? >> bladerunners? i'm not dismantling ulez cameras. no, i'm. we uncovered. i'm not nearly competent enough to do that. >> but i am with them in some ways. >> i bet you won't feel like that about cctv. if you were a victim of a crime and cctv helped track down the persecutor, but would it help? >> does it ever? mean, how >> does it ever? i mean, how often cctv actually nail often does cctv actually nail someone? half the time. they haven't got any in or else haven't got any film in or else they're not working or else the operative isn't looking at it because eating because he's eating. eating a beef burger or something like that. always out that. and then it's always out of or it's inconclusive of focus or it's inconclusive live. they're not nearly as useful tool crime useful a tool in crime apprehension might think apprehension as you might think aaron i think look, one of aaron yeah, i think look, one of one the principal one of the principal responsibilities of school is responsibilities of a school is to keep the safe and to to keep the kids safe and to ensure their safety. >> if children have raised >> and if children have raised the that bullying the fact that there's bullying going particular part going on in that particular part of school, if there's of the school, if there's apparently, quite apparently, you know, quite extensive property which extensive property damage, which cost school money, schools cost the school money, schools only in of only have so much in terms of resources. of course then resources. of course that then goes the question

goes back to the question of installing cameras. i think they're not in cubicles. that's they're not in cubicles. that's the thing. okay. so i can the main thing. okay. so i can see for and against. i agree with the on this with quentin that the on this that the proliferation, the profusion of cctv across the country is a signifier of failure of social and cultural failure. however if i was a parent at this school and my child was being bullied, i would probably want that cctv in there. so i can see both sides of this argument. >> i've put so much thought into school toilets , clearly, but school toilets, clearly, but i think if i was a headmistress, what i would do if i had the budget, do away with these, budget, i'd do away with these, you know, like these toilet block things. and what i would do self—contained do is i'd have self—contained toilets toilet and toilets with a sink, toilet and sink toilet and sink door. sink door, toilet and sink door. so you've just got a row of doors. there's no communal area. there's around, there's no messing around, there's no argy badges, no bullying. no space bullying. there's no space for twos, nothing like that. in twos, nothing like that. get in there, business, wash there, do your business, wash your never wash your hands and out it never wash their hands. children. yeah there you go. >> anyway , look, want your >> anyway, look, i do want your thoughts on that. >> says absolutely not. the >> nick says absolutely not. the

school in question is a failing on their part when it comes to discipline. glenn absolutely . discipline. glenn absolutely. definitely not. ever, ever. and you say your granddaughter was bullied as well . look, i just bullied as well. look, i just want to finish on showing some sweet mots. let's have a look at this, aaron, this is your pooch name, please. geno, this is geno. show us yours. we've heard a lot about quinton's. >> that's bonnie . >> that's bonnie. >> that's bonnie. >> little troublemaker, the old ankle biter, as you have described. and this one was one of my favourite viewers. look at that. everybody even. i think that. everybody even. i think that one's cute, even won me over. that one's cute, even won me over . i've got to say. over. i've got to say. >> woof, woof, woof , woof. >> woof, woof, woof, woof. >> woof, woof, woof, woof. >> i can't remember the name of that dog, though, which is really bad of me. but i did see that one memory going, it? that one memory going, isn't it? he's i'm getting old too much. >> drink? >> drink? >> well, no, not enough . someone >> well, no, not enough. someone say if my. if some of my elder relatives was here perhaps and talking about top whiskies and all the rest of it, maybe that's my problem. >> oldbury on the bottle. >> oldbury on the bottle. >> yeah.

>> yeah. >> prince, by the way, mr prince, that was the name of the dog the prince reliably informed in my local mr prince lots of you still getting in touch about cctv. seem to be you still getting in touch about cctv. support seem to be you still getting in touch about cctv. support for seem to be you still getting in touch about cctv. support for putting to be you still getting in touch about cctv. support for putting cctv. much support for putting cctv. >> if you can have cv where are you going to smoke at school anyway? nowhere >> quentin nowhere . if any of >> quentin nowhere. if any of these shoulder what do not listen to him if you're not. if you're sitting at home listening to dewbs& co with your dogs that he's asking where you going to smoke at school? the answer is very kids don't smoke very clear. kids don't smoke right? aaron, look, it's right? anyway, aaron, look, it's all got time for lots of all we have got time for lots of people divided. they're feeling very sorry for shopkeepers in this as well. when this day and age as well. when it comes to shoplifters. what do you anymore? some people you guys do anymore? some people are pondering, is it even are even pondering, is it even worth being a shopkeeper in this day the hassle day and age with all the hassle and trouble that you get? and the trouble that you get? i wouldn't fancy i'll tell wouldn't fancy it. and i'll tell you what as well, i wouldn't fancy being a security guard because put your hands on because if you put your hands on people be people these days, they'd be rushing off to sue you, wouldn't they? anyway look, you'd be terrifying as a security guard. >> me? can you imagine?

terrifying as a security guard. >> yeah.zan you imagine? terrifying as a security guard. >> yeah. people imagine? terrifying as a security guard. >> yeah. people areigine? terrifying as a security guard. >> yeah. people are be e? in >> yeah. people are be coming in and giving me goods anyway. >> always give >> look, it's always give her a truncheon for it's all got time for. >> have a good night everyone. i'll see you tomorrow. >> the temperature's rising. boxt proud sponsors boxt solar proud sponsors of weather gb news alex deakin weather on gb news alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. >> a three way split with the weather tomorrow. quite blustery start, of course, particularly in northern scotland. many places dry with sunny spells, but northern but across parts of northern england, wales staying england, north wales staying fairly tonight . it'll be fairly dull tonight. it'll be wet and windy across much of scotland and northern ireland thanks this area of low thanks to this area of low pressure, strongest winds pressure, the strongest winds across through across the western isles through the then moving the evening and then moving across northern most parts of the during the early the mainland during the early hours, rain will trickle its hours, the rain will trickle its way northern england and way into northern england and nonh way into northern england and north , where it will north wales, where it will unger north wales, where it will linger for most tomorrow. but linger for most of tomorrow. but further stays largely further south stays largely dry, still warm. temperatures still quite warm. temperatures holding up into the teens , but holding up into the teens, but not warmth and humidity that not the warmth and humidity that we had last week into thursday. as i said, a bit of a three way split, mostly fine in the south,

mostly fine across scotland and northern ireland. few northern ireland. just a few showers in the west. it'll still be very windy early on, but this zone from zone of cloud lingering from parts lincolnshire to parts of lincolnshire to yorkshire through yorkshire across through lancashire across north lancashire and across north wales generate some wales will generate some outbreaks rain on and off as outbreaks of rain on and off as well. either side of that in the sunny spells feeling quite pleasant but quite warm again in the south, 23 to 24, further north, teens that north, high teens generally that zone damp weather zone of dull and damp weather has shifted by friday. has just shifted by friday. so quite grey, soggy day for quite a grey, soggy day for southern and northern southern scotland and northern ireland. the far north, dry and bright by the odd shower and most of england and wales set fair on friday. only 1 or 2 isolated showers in the afternoon soon cool where that rain persists, but turning warmer humid once more warmer and more humid once more across the . south the across the. south the temperatures rising . temperatures rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on

news tonight on farage ben wallace , tonight on farage ben wallace, the former defence secretary, says that membership of the echr makes us more vulnerable to terrorism. >> so isn't it about time we drew the logical conclusion and decided to leave on a similar theme with this government ? the theme with this government? the ft reveals today that rishi sunak did know about the arrest of the china suspected spy earlier in the year and yet still went ahead and trying to reset our relationship with beijing . are we getting our beijing. are we getting our china policy all wrong and labour control wales on sunday evening in come the 20 mile—per hour speed limits in virtually every town and village in wales . and we'll debate both sides of this and see does it really make any sense at all? but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst .