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stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com. now it's back over to andrew and . bev to andrew and. bev >> good morning. >> good morning. >> well, the labour needs to castits >> well, the labour needs to cast its keir starmer finally . cast its keir starmer finally. he's telling us what he's going to do or says he's going to do about illegal migration across the channel tell you what he's going to do. he's going to let more in. >> well, he would say not, but we're going to work this out. it sounds like it probably inevitably will more in the inevitably will let more in the deal inevitably will let more in the deal. if it's agreed. we'll see us in quota of migrants us take in a quota of migrants from the eu in return for sending back people who arrive here is of here illegally, which is all of them the channel. them across the channel. >> keir starmer says his >> my view keir starmer says his party will restore the security of borders smashing of britain's borders by smashing the gangs. the criminal smuggling gangs. have that before? nor have you heard that before? nor does sound good to be does it sound too good to be true. right. true. that's right. >> joined now by news >> we are joined now by gb news presenter and conservative mp esther mcvey. morning esther. morning. we were saying it's quite nice to finally see a little bit of clear water, no pun intended, between the

conservatives labour. conservatives and labour. but does make any sense does this policy make any sense to vote winner? to you as a vote winner? >> i would say only starmer >> i would say only keir starmer could with the idea of could come up with the idea of stopping illegal migration by making sure they all come here. that's right. it's a bit like saying we're going to crack down on burglars in prisons and the way we're going to do that is by decriminalising that's decriminalising burglary. that's what . what they're doing. >> he's going to open negotiations about joining an eu burden system . so all burden sharing system. so all these migrants who land in greece or france , there's a pool greece or france, there's a pool of them. we're going to take a share of them. and the mail says in their front page today, that'll be 100,000 last year. >> yeah, i think that that is the true name burden sharing scheme . scheme. >> um, and if you notice, there's quite a few countries in there's quite a few countries in the eu who do not want to be sharing in this scheme. so you've poland's , you're you've got poland's, you're hungary's, denmark's . so hungary's, you're denmark's. so what he is saying, oh well i'll rush and i'll take all those rush in and i'll take all those people who the eu or the parts of the do not want. so he's of the eu do not want. so he's saying it's a minimum of 30,000, but realistically, 100,000,

120,000. >> so it's a it's it is astonishing. >> and i mean, look, on the one hand, esther, you and i know the government's own policy isn't working with rwanda. might happen. let's hope it does. by the way, he says he's cancel rwanda to you. but this is a vote loser. gary steed for starmer, particularly behind places like the red wall. well kent. >> well, he's trying to sell it. well at the moment, isn't he? oh, no. what we're going to do is crack down on all those smugglers. you know, people who are smuggling people. but if you hear what the ncaa are meant to be national crime be saying, national crime agency, saying you need be saying, national crime aideterrent. saying you need be saying, national crime aideterrent. yeah. ying you need be saying, national crime aideterrent. yeah. therefore, eed a deterrent. yeah. therefore, you scheme. you you need a rwanda scheme. you need a third country where people are going to if they've got rid of their passport. so you can't send them back to their country. and he their own country. and he is getting rid that deterrent. getting rid of that deterrent. so news is you've got so the good news is you've got the illegal migration bill through labour voted against it. they times. you through labour voted against it. th

rwanda. and what i will say if they don't do that, we're heading for a constitutional crisis . if the law , you know, crisis. if the law, you know, the judges are going to say no to what has been a democratic and a political decision and if they do a constitutional crisis, how does that play out then , esther? >> because if the supreme court remember the lord chief justice backed the plan to otherjudges, backed the plan to other judges, didn't could we ignore what the supreme court does? could parliament say we are the sovereign body? well, let's hope they're realising this will go to a constitutional crisis. >> let's realise that they know what their job is. theirjob is what theirjob is. theirjob is to implement the law. the law that has been decided by politicians, ones who've been elected by the public and not go against that because the problem will come after that. so the right thing is to make sure that the rwanda policy goes ahead . it the rwanda policy goes ahead. it should be in november. >> let's see what starmer actually says about this tackling the gang. so this is the quote. says, my labour the quote. he says, my labour government twice government will be twice as ruthless to smash the gangs and secure british borders. well, twice doesn't twice as ruthless doesn't sound

terribly the terribly impressive because the government ruthless government aren't being ruthless at all. these criminal smuggling gangs growing fat on the gangs are growing fat on the government's failures, while the tories rhetoric tories ramp up empty rhetoric around illegal immigration for cheap headlines. doesn't cheap headlines. but he doesn't actually say anything about how he the criminal he would smash the criminal gangs just he's going gangs. he just says he's going to twice as ruthless. it's to be twice as ruthless. it's pathetic . pathetic. >> esther well, they weren't really ruthless. i mean, ruthless was by having a deterrent. ruthless is by having third countries that these illegal immigrants can go to. so that's what you need to do. it is empty words and i don't believe there's any substance to it. i think the reality is it's his way to take us back into the eu . it's his way to do the eu's eu. it's his way to do the eu's bidding. he's off now to see macron next week. he is to again see what it is they want to do. he will go in in bended knee and go against what the country wanted, and that was brexit and getting brexit done . well, no, getting brexit done. well, no, he's going to go back into the

eu not even hiding. >> it is he trying to appeal to the remainers ? the remainers? >> yes, he is. of which there was a lot which is him and was a lot of which is him and his cabinet. and we shouldn't forget that labour's brexit forget that as labour's brexit party spokesman in corbyn's government, the architect government, he was the architect of referendum plan, of the second referendum plan, which he backed yeah, which he backed twice. yeah, and, and also, of course he shouldn't forget that he'd campaigned to get jeremy corbyn a marxist, in as prime minister. there is some encouraging news as on asylum, esther, as well on asylum, esther, because are because the government are making the point that some people who arrived from making the point that some peop albania rrived from making the point that some peop albania werei from making the point that some peop albania were deported n from albania were deported within 48 hours. this week. now that's what we've got to do with lots more. >> yeah, and that was the start of the deal. that's the start of if you know where you've got the people have come from, it's easy to send them back and you get those deals in place. it's when people have come by people have come over by dinghies aslef, got dinghies and aslef, they've got rid of the passports. that's why you need third countries to send them said, keir them to. i like i said, keir starmer would be getting rid of people illegally on people illegally coming over on dinghies. because dinghies. you know why? because

they've become an over legally, probably cruise boats. probably on cruise boats. the numbers they'd cruise ships, the numbers they'd cruise ships, the numbers coming numbers they'd be having coming in. to a couple of tory in. i talked to a couple of tory mps and they said we can't believe we've finally got an issue. >> can really attack labour >> we can really attack labour on because sitting on on because he's been sitting on the fence, he's been turning on everything borders. >> with you, open >> i agree with you, open borders always wanted borders. they've always wanted more . and when you more safe routes. and when you know a billion people know there's a billion people potentially the potentially moving around the planet, a lot of people planet, that is a lot of people let in. let them all in. >> in the first place. >> in the first place. >> tony blair, the dictator, justin trudeau well. justin trudeau as well. >> week. so that >> later this week. so that makes my blood cold. and makes my blood run cold. and we've de souza coming we've got rachel de souza coming in morning well. esther in this morning as well. esther children's commissioner. and she is and is arguing that schools and parents guidance parents need more guidance from the the the government on the transgender and whether transgender issue and whether a child just self—identify as child can just self—identify as the sex. we need this, the opposite sex. we need this, don't we? we need some leadership on this issue. >> yeah, i do believe that we need have some clear guidance need to have some clear guidance for that. but whilst it isn't there, i would always say the first principle is that parents, you know, are responsible for their children and parents have

their children and parents have the first duty to their children. therefore for whatever a child does is with consent of their parents. and that's what their parents. and that's what the schools need to do. and that is your first point of principle. that is okay because we know because we know some schools been allowing schools have been allowing children school, wear children to get to school, wear different clothes, identify with a pronoun or a a different pronoun or a different without telling different name without telling the . and that and that the families. and that and that is wrong . and that's why i say is wrong. and that's why i say the state isn't responsible for your child . a parent is now your child. a parent is now there might be times, and i understand this, that you might not agree with what a parent says because the parent might say, do you know what? i know what's for best my child. and actually, this is they are transitioning one way or another. but still, the parents have made that decision with the children and the state shouldn't be. >> the problem is we live in a world now where parents worry so much about what other parents think and what other teachers think. and everybody's trying to do thing. all do the right thing. it's all very well intentioned, but when do the right thing. it's all venkidsl intentioned, but when do the right thing. it's all ven kids come 1tioned, but when

do the right thing. it's all ven kids come homei, but when do the right thing. it's all ven kids come home andt when do the right thing. it's all venkids come home and they'll my kids come home and they'll say, we've got a non—binary child in my class, i obviously want of my eyes and want to kind of roll my eyes and 90, want to kind of roll my eyes and go, well , you know, there might go, well, you know, there might be bit more going on there be a bit more going on there than you realise. and what do you think that what you think that means? what does non—binary can have non—binary mean? and i can have that with them. but that conversation with them. but there so many parents. it's there are so many parents. it's such a new territory for us. they don't know what say they don't know what to say about who is about that child who is dictating lot of the ideology dictating a lot of the ideology and non—scientific thinking and the non—scientific thinking in that parents in that environment that parents need leadership well. in that environment that parents nee(we leadership well. in that environment that parents nee(we want|dership well. in that environment that parents nee(we want or rship well. in that environment that parents nee(we want or we p well. in that environment that parents nee(we want or we want.rell. in that environment that parents nee(we want or we want. ill. in that environment that parents nee(we want or we want. i think and we want or we want. i think the majority of parents want to be side with old be on side with the old fashioned of boys fashioned notion of boys and girls. course. but girls. yeah, of course. but we're scared say the wrong we're scared to say the wrong thing we need headteachers thing and we need headteachers to lead and the head to take the lead and the head teachers need the authorities to tell what can and tell them what they can and can't except for, like can't say except for, like i say, back to the first say, if you go back to the first principle, the parents are responsible children . responsible for the children. >> and if the teachers are guided by that actually first point call is the parents, point of call is the parents, what are they happy with? what are doing? actually are they doing? and it actually helps a lot because helps the teachers a lot because it's not them taking control over somebody else. it's actually going back. and that is

aduu actually going back. and that is adult speaking to adult about a child and the person who cares most is their mum and dad. yeah >> can i ask you about one other story? i think one of a couple of the front pages you'll have a dog in this fight because you're an mp from the north england, an mp from the north of england, rishi and the chancellor rishi sunak and the chancellor talking cancelling stage talking about cancelling stage two the high speed rail two of hs2, the high speed rail link. can probably remind me link. you can probably remind me which is which part is staged. i can't even remember, but this has been it's massively overbudget already. the projections, going to cost projections, it's going to cost billions more than it should have should just get rid of have should they just get rid of it altogether? have should they just get rid of it awell, her? have should they just get rid of it awell, do ? have should they just get rid of it awell, do you know i have >> well, do you know what i have to this morning i was like, to say? this morning i was like, hooray, i saw the exclusive because been for because i have been fighting for a say what a waste. a long time to say what a waste. >> completely. >> completely. >> you know that money could be better spent on local transport, on reliable on internet connection, reliable internet. the for internet. so thank the lord for that. gone way over budget internet. so thank the lord for that it gone way over budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is gone way over budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out|e way over budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out of may over budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out of date ver budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out of date .ar budget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out of date . andidget internet. so thank the lord for that it is out of date . and it'st and it is out of date. and it's the biggest vanity project ever . the are it will . so the odds are it will probably stop at maybe birmingham and a lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of the works

already being done. could they stop it all now? maybe not. if they've already done that. so they've already done that. so they've spent some billions already possible. they've spent some billions alrestage possible. they've spent some billions alre stage two possible. they've spent some billions alrestage two is possible. they've spent some billions alrestage two is it'siossible. they've spent some billions alrestage two is it's hot ble. they've spent some billions alrestage two is it's hot off. they've spent some billions alrestage two is it's hot off the >> stage two is it's hot off the press stage two is birmingham to manchester. shelving phase manchester. shelving that phase would save up to 34 billion money it will save. they've already spent 2.3 billion on it. but hang on a minute. if it was meant to be london to manchester and it ends at birmingham and it ends birmingham, well, it ends in birmingham, well, it should us. should have cost us. >> it should started at >> it should have started at birmingham in my view. >> yeah, it should have always started. if you're ever to going do it, start in the north. but actually it wasn't really thought it's thought through properly. it's had cases. it was had more business cases. it was a labour as well, a labour project as well, remember? was. it was remember? yes it was. it was lord in 2004. now now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, in 2004. now now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, it's in 2004. now now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, it's out 2004. now now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, it's out of'04. now now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, it's out of datelow now, as remember? yes it was. it was lsaid, it's out of date and now, as i said, it's out of date and there lots of things wrong. there are lots of things wrong. whether you the cost, whether you look at the cost, people say, how much electricity will per year, will it use actually per year, it'll third of hinkley it'll be a third of hinkley point, which we don't even have yet. say, what are the yet. people say, what are the price tickets? they be price of tickets? they could be £600 you've got £600 each. you've got environmental damage, you've got the you've got. it's

the cost damage you've got. it's destroying going destroying communities going through all that green countryside to know. not countryside to know. but not many people are using the trains into city anymore. they're doing online, they're zooming. they're only going into work three days a week. this would be the best news ever if they stopped this. i'm with you and put the money into other things that are needed. >> do you think we would ever hean >> do you think we would ever hear, though, the government say, look, times have changed because pandemics . because we had pandemics. everyone's now the pandemic, everyone's from everyone's now working from home. in home. we don't need this in the same way. is it is it a convenient excuse that people will buy? think , rather will buy? do you think, rather than look, it was than saying, look, it was a disaster from day one, you know, will they come out and say, we're not going to extend it? and this is the reason why we've had such significant social change don't need to change that people don't need to travel the same way. travel in the same way. >> too many reports come out now. got reports coming now. you've got reports coming out, committee out, public accounts committee report the infrastructure projects report projects authorities report saying money. saying it's not value for money. we even what its we don't even know what its mission is and just, mission or vision is and just, you know, end it. and when you've seen even for euston station, where it was meant to

end in doubling in costs just for that, i know you've realised it is a problem , but can i tell it is a problem, but can i tell you the upset on the ground is huge.so you the upset on the ground is huge. so in my patch it is a massive issue. you're destroying swathes of the country for an out—of—date rail project and everybody wants local trains and local buses and like i said, broadband and yeah, decent broadband and yeah, decent broadband on the train. >> yeah. change everything . >> yeah. change everything. >> yeah. change everything. >> so and that story about hs2, i think it was an exclusive in the independent. >> independent, a very good story. >> now . thank you esther. >> now. thank you esther. thanks. and of course, esther's show is saturday. >> it's certainly a saturday morning with my hobby with a very nice hubby called philip. we've got to mention him. we love left out. love him. feel left out. >> know you're watching philip. >> ten till 12. >> ten till 12. >> i've never miss it. i never miss fabulous to see you. miss it. fabulous to see you. >> right. get in touch with us this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. want vaiews@gbnews.com. we want to hear you know hear from you now. do you know the roseanne murphy the singer roseanne murphy from moloko? when moloko? well you will when you hear this . by when it back

hear this. by when it back shnnk hear this. by when it back shrink back maent running back mashing it back . mashing it back. >> bring it back. mashing it back. >> bring it back . shrink back . >> bring it back. shrink back. >> bring it back. shrink back. >> well, she calls. that's a great song, by the way. huge controversy last month because she had the temerity to say on facebook that she thinks puberty , are, quote , , puberty blockers are, quote, absolutely desolate. she has criticised big pharma for laughing all the way to the bank. and guess what's now happened? the bbc has removed and replaced the singer from a scheduled program and its radio six music station. i think we were to be 5—5 hours dedicated to her music, but they say it's nothing to do with her views on the bbc have denied that these comments on puberty blockers are the for the removal, but the reason for the removal, but many fans that is just too many fans think that is just too big coincidence . we're here in big a coincidence. we're here in the studio, my great colleague katie hind, who story katie hind, who broke this story in the mail. we will read the bbc statement , katie saying, of bbc statement, katie saying, of course. but what's your view? why have they what's happened here? >> so i was contacted actually

by staff who work on the station who were absolutely outraged that that rushing, rushing, rushing was so it was it was actually ten hours. ten hours. it was five hours next monday , it was five hours next monday, five hours next tuesday. and it was it was kind of a celebration of her, really. it was kind of, you know, previous footage of her at concerts, her music, her interviews . and it was all it interviews. and it was all it was all on the schedule. it was all on the website published, you know, between midnight and 5 am. the next thing staff just see it's been changed. and so, you know, one of them contacted me and was just really concerned about what this means for them actually as staff. you know, are they not allowed to have a view, you know, without being cancelled? so i obviously approached the bbc who said, no, no, no , no, nothing to see here no, no, no, nothing to see here and blamed it on a, you know, we change, we change things. you know, things change. we and they they said that they've got a

poetry week which was more appropriate little simz to, appropriate for little simz to, to take this slot and that's the that's the other performer little yes. that's the other performer littiyeah. yes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but poetry week isn't that week anyway. >> different week. >> it's a different week. >> it's a different week. >> no, exactly. and also poetry week is, is in the diary way in advance. yeah. the staff advance. yeah. so, so the staff now staff i i'm speaking to, now the staff i i'm speaking to, they're cross about they're not, they're cross about they're not, they're cross about the now know think the lies now you know they think the lies now you know they think the have lied and they're the bbc have lied and they're really cross about the denial as to the real reason behind their decision. >> rod little writing in the sun today if you've read his today don't if you've read his column makes point column katie makes the point they've got a form for lying. the bbc. they lied over whether we last night we were going to get last night at of traditional at the some of the traditional music night of the proms music last night of the proms they the conductor the they said the conductor the finnish conductor was uncomfortable jingoism. finnish conductor was unc(put»rtable jingoism. finnish conductor was unc(put outile jingoism. finnish conductor was unc(put out a jingoism. finnish conductor was unc(put out a statementingoism. finnish conductor was unc(put out a statement saying,. she put out a statement saying, no, not. well, this is the thing. >> so i always say the bbc don't lie. they'll never lie on the record. and so and quite often in my experience , in years in my experience, in years of experience they sometimes experience of it, they sometimes will be quite transparent. but on utterly on this one, i was utterly stunned that they came back without without recognising it. and also, i think what's

interesting, haven't heard interesting, we haven't heard anything since , you anything from them since, you know, run run know, this story is run and run and they've just stuck and run and they've just stuck to same state. so to that same state. and so i think i think they owe it to the licence fee payers to come out and actually tell us what's gone on here. >> quite right. >> quite right. >> and i think what's interesting as well about this story roshan murphy's story is roshan murphy's response , because she said that response, because she said that young trans as she said young trans people as she said in statement, little in that statement, little mixed up and then she up kids, she said, and then she went when there was this enormous activist enormous trans activist backlash, wasn't there, as there always is in situations. always is in these situations. >> it's got up, isn't >> it's always got up, isn't it? >> it's always got up, isn't it? >> so does she do? look, >> so what does she do? look, she said, i'm sorry in my she said, i'm so sorry in my comments have been directly hurtful to you. hurtful to many of you. i understand fixed views are not helpful, really hope helpful, but i really hope people can understand concern people can understand my concern was us all. and was out of love for us all. and she said now completely she said she will now completely bow this conversation bow out of this conversation within public domain and she within the public domain and she said nothing since. so the trans activists what activists achieved what they wanted , which is to silence. wanted, which is to silence. >> silenced her. >> they silenced her. >> they silenced her. >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> and of the and she's an >> and so of the and she's an important in this debate important voice in this debate because look because young people look up to her. is. and actually i won't

>> she is. and actually i won't i won't steal steal the idea i won't steal the steal the idea but our colleague dan hodges has tweeted this morning saying that when was pulled off when gary lineker was pulled off air, a huge backlash air, there was a huge backlash like alex like you'll remember, alex scott. went on strike. scott. oh, they went on strike. >> they did strike. >> they did strike. >> i mean, match of the day was ruined, wasn't it? there was no football focussed on was better because well because he wasn't on. yeah well you wouldn't you. wouldn't you would wouldn't you. wouldn't you would wouldn't you. wouldn't you football but you andrew. i hate football but there's no such thing you there's been no such thing you know in this situation which i think is just really telling. there are no other musicians coming out. >> i mean, she's an absolute icon. >> she she is. and also she's going to be at number two. i mean, only out to olivia mean, only losing out to olivia rodriguez, you rodriguez, who is like, you know, phenomenon for know, a global phenomenon for young so she young people. right. so she would otherwise probably be at number this weekend. and number one this weekend. and yet the are not the bbc, you know, are not acknowledging the bbc, you know, are not acknowledgi that's what's so >> you see, that's what's so interesting, isn't it? as you say, the public has say, the public response has been to go out and download her records, and to records, buy her records and to show that. >> and knew how to download >> and if i knew how to download it because of course, i don't, i'll you. i would download i'll show you. i would download it eight support for it. eight out of support for rashid. we've got to read out

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gb news with bev turner and andrew pierce transgender guidance . guidance. >> let's even have some leadership. the government under huge pressure now to give schools some guidance about the children who want to change their gender. should parents be involved? they should i >> opening our borders. labour's radical new plan to take in more asylum seekers in a deal with the eu. they claim that they want to smash the criminal gangs, smuggling thousands across the channel. but would this just lead to more migrants arriving in britain ? arriving in britain? >> and who's to blame? the american bully xl has been all oven american bully xl has been all over. the headlines this week. are we giving the breed an unfairly hard time? we're going to two people with to talk to two people with differing views. >> office turmoil. >> and ticket office turmoil. the fight to save our ticket offices continues. should we just embrace it and go cashless? some say not. us. we've still got cash in your

pocket. i have. he's been jingling all morning. >> always carry cash , believe in >> always carry cash, believe in cash. and so it seems gb news has that campaign. we want a big debate in the commons because we know trying get rid know banks are trying to get rid of it. last year more people used cash than for many, many years. we're winning. years. so we're winning. >> right. i think >> yeah, that's right. i think an act defiance actually. all an act of defiance actually. all round. to looking round. we're going to be looking at to that at the numbers attached to that as this morning. as well this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email. first, is rhiannon first, though, here is rhiannon jones in the newsroom . jones in the newsroom. >> beth, thank you. good morning. it's 10:01. >> beth, thank you. good morning. it's10:01. your >> beth, thank you. good morning. it's 10:01. your top stories from the newsroom. so keir starmer says he'll seek an eu wide returns agreement for those who cross the channel and come to the uk illegally. the labour leader says the deal may involve a quid pro quo of accept ing migrants from the bloc, saying and shadow home secretary yvette cooper are meeting with the eu's policing body europol in the hague today. shadow

cabinet minister nick thomas—symonds told gb news labour want to bring net migration down. there are countries now where the government could be fast tracking people through the asylum system so that they can be deported. >> they can be doing that now. instead, we have a backlog in the asylum system of over 170,000 people. that is a lack of control. that's what this government is presiding over. and frankly, after 13 years, they ought to be sorting it out i >> -- >> the health secretary meanwhile, steve barclay, has accused sir keir of giving up control. we're taking tougher action. >> we want to also, through our rwanda policy , have a very clear rwanda policy, have a very clear deterrent there. and that's before the courts . and what keir before the courts. and what keir starmer again wants to do is give up control of immigration, sign up to quotas that are decided by the eu and remove the deterrent that rwanda would

provide alongside the return agreements that we put in place i >> -- >> the metropolitan police has paid damages to two women arrested at a london vigil for sarah everard , patsy stevenson sarah everard, patsy stevenson and dania al—obeid took legal action against the force over their arrests at a protest dunng their arrests at a protest during covid restrictions. hundreds of people attended the vigil in march 2021 to pay their respect to ms everard, who was kidnapped , raped and murdered by kidnapped, raped and murdered by a police officer, wayne cousins. he was sentenced to a whole life term in the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment has hit a record high of 7.68 million. it's the highest number since records began in august two thousand and seven. earlier, the government announced the nhs will be receiving £200 million to help the service in the coming winter. but labour's refer to the money as a sticking

plaster . the refer to the money as a sticking plaster. the king and queen say they are desperately saddened by they are desperately saddened by the catastrophic floods in libya in which at least 5000 people are known to have died . and the are known to have died. and the uk government says it will provide an assistance package worth up to £1 million storm. daniel hit the coastal city of derna and other eastern parts of the north african country on sunday. more than 10,000 people are missing after dams burst and buildings were swept away . back buildings were swept away. back here, payments using cash have risen for the first time in a decade. risen for the first time in a decade . that's according to decade. that's according to trading body uk finance. it says the number of payments made using notes and coins increased by 7% last year. it's thought people are making greater use of cash as a way of managing budgets during the cost of living crisis . as more than living crisis. as more than a quarter of people are behind,

with at least one bill payment. that's to according citizens advice. the charity says just over a fifth have borrowed to money pay for essentials in the past six months. half of those seeking help from citizens advice was struck dealing with unpaid energy bills and overdue council taxes . the higher council taxes. the higher education policy institute says more than a quarter of uk universities have a food bank. it's reported its report found 1 in 10 has been giving out food vouchers . house prices declined vouchers. house prices declined in august at their fastest rate since 2009. that's according to the royal institution of chartered surveyors . it says a chartered surveyors. it says a majority of property professions are reporting declines, largely due to high mortgage rates. are reporting declines, largely due to high mortgage rates . a due to high mortgage rates. a new buyer inquiries also continued to fall. rents meanwhile, continue to rise . a meanwhile, continue to rise. a treatment for acute migraines has been approved for nhs use.

for the first time, health experts say it could be a step change for thousands of people who suffer from the condition. rimegepant, which is made by pfizen rimegepant, which is made by pfizer, will be available to adults who've tried at least two other medication for migraines , other medication for migraines, which didn't help . and a special which didn't help. and a special project to save rare species at the white cliffs of dover has been announced as part of a multi—million pound invest moment. by nature, england . it's moment. by nature, england. it's hoped the £145 million initiative will revive 150 rare and threatened species from butterflies, birds and bees. funding will be used by various organisations and local authorities to carry out conservation efforts . this is gb conservation efforts. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. by simply saying play gb news now it's back over to andrew and bev .

back over to andrew and bev. >> good morning. it's 1007. >> good morning. it's1007. thank you very much for joining us. so we've been a bit let down now, haven't we? we were expecting the children's commissioner, commissioner dame rachel morning, rachel de sousa this morning, but had to attend but apparently she had to attend an emergency will an emergency meeting. we will try get speak to her next try and get to speak to her next week. what was going to week. but what she was going to say was that she's say to us was that she's desperate for government to desperate for the government to get fence. get off the fence. >> i don't think she'd have phrased like that, but we can phrased it like that, but we can to proper guidance to to give proper guidance to schools about children want schools about children who want to into the classroom to come into the classroom and change pronoun , change the change the pronoun, change the clothes they're wearing. schools have doing this often have been doing this often without consulting families. without consulting the families. we've talked to estimate about this earlier, weren't we? our fellow presenter and former cabinet she said the cabinet minister, she said the parent has to first. parent always has to be first. you're a parent. it would you would be enraged , wouldn't you, would be enraged, wouldn't you, if of your if you found out one of your daughters was a boy school daughters was a boy at school and the and the teacher hadn't told you. >> it sounds ridiculous when you say it like that, because i kind of think i'd know, but. but i

think you know what? tell their parents. my eldest daughter is 14, so the other one is 12. but i think once they're little i think once they're a little older, you're 15, 16 and older, once you're 15, 16 and they're school, there's they're at school, there's absolute possibility that absolute every possibility that once to school, they once they get to school, they could having a different could be having a different identity when they're at identity and when they're at home. be aware of home. but you would be aware of it. you be outraged? it. would you be outraged? >> you up to the >> wouldn't you be up to the school to have it out with the headteacher if you found out that she was now that horrendous? she was now using hebrew are using a hebrew now, or are they? >> i i would. i'd be >> i would i would. i'd be outraged. but i think because it leads so many other leads on to so many other issues, even if you're issues, it's not even if you're only parent has that only that parent that has that child or that grandparent, it's about how it affects whole about how it affects the whole classroom. toilets. classroom. it's about toilets. it's about changing rooms at schools. so it affect every schools. so it does affect every child feel quite sorry child. and i do feel quite sorry for heads at the moment. and teachers, i don't think i don't think the guidance clear and think the guidance is clear and we were going to get we thought we were going to get guidance gillian guidance from gillian keegan. >> okay. she's got quite a lot on her plate concrete, on her plate with concrete, dodgy she's made dodgy concrete and she's made a right that, hasn't right horlicks of that, hasn't she. the prime minister we she. but the prime minister we now know intervened to say now know has intervened to say there's to no clear there's going to be no clear guidance before election

guidance before the election because want get because he doesn't want to get into a fight before the into a fight about it before the election. want you to get election. we want you to get into fight about it. prime into a fight about it. prime minister. >> i mean, it's just it's spineless. >> it's you either know how you feel you want to feel about this and you want to give guidance. feel about this and you want to give guigot ce. feel about this and you want to give guigot teenage daughters, >> i've got teenage daughters, but i'm a bit baffled about but what i'm a bit baffled about is that he came out and said that he going to issue the that he was going to issue the guidance. >> got in his ear? who >> then who got in his ear? who got in ear and said, no, you got in his ear and said, no, you can't, because we know the can't, because we know that the trans lobbyists trans activist lobbyists are incredibly trans activist lobbyists are incre are y trans activist lobbyists are incre are very aggressive. i only they are very aggressive. i only have to what's happened to have to see what's happened to roshan yeah, rowling roshan murphy. yeah, jk rowling jk know, there is a jk rowling. you know, there is a whole list of people i was personally cancelled because i won't retweet a graham line of an article that was in your newspaper got cancelled newspaper and i got cancelled from on international from talking on international women's being women's day about being a working mum. yeah. so as soon as anybody says anything that might sound to be remotely contrary to the idea that somebody can just pick their gender somehow, there's a pile on behind the scenes. i'd love to understand it more. hello. >> and what's view on this? >> and what's your view on this? would have welcome would you have been welcome guidance from the prime minister

at the department of at number 10, the department of education, do need education, because they do need to up. they really do. >> and the problem right now, the controversial the government's controversial northern legacy, bill, northern ireland legacy, bill, is one step away from becoming law. >> now, this is really important legislation , actually, because legislation, actually, because it gives a conditional amnesty to people accused of killings dunng to people accused of killings during 30 years of violence. remember the trouble started way back in 1969 in northern ireland, stopping any new court cases inquest being held . cases and inquest being held. >> right. so despite >> that's right. so despite widespread this >> that's right. so despite wides|thed this >> that's right. so despite wides|the bill this >> that's right. so despite wides|the bill passed this >> that's right. so despite wides|the bill passed after week, the bill passed after a final in the house of final debate in the house of lords. campaigners for victims say government have say that the government have abandoned them. >> former special branch >> but a former special branch officer who shot dead an ira terrorist in 1991 argues his life been ruined by the life has been ruined by the continuing and relentless inquiry, have found inquiry, which have never found him guilty of murder. >> he has spoken exclusively >> and he has spoken exclusively to on northern ireland. to gb news on northern ireland. reporter dougie beattie has this report . report. >> oh, name is officer b. i >> oh, my name is officer b. i joined the royal ulster constabulary in the late 70s and i served in various stations around the border and west

belfast before joining what was called e4, which was a surveillance unit, was part of special branch special operations branch. so i was a covert surveillance operator for almost 11 years. i was going out to do an operation, a counter—terrorism operation against a man called colin marks . i wasn't privy to the full amount of intelligence or who the source was. that wasn't for us. that was way above our pay scale . but the information was scale. but the information was which came from a source within the ira that he was to going come to the playing field to the rear of saint patrick's avenue. that night, carrying a mark 12 mortar, and then fire it into a armoured. police are army landrover, which was passing by colin marks brought this mortar to the driveway of a house on saint patrick's avenue where he set it up to fire it against a security force vehicle . so total

security force vehicle. so total and utter disregard for human life. and so that's what i was facing that night when i took up a position in a hedgerow on saint patrick's avenue to cover a playing field whenever the issue came to arrest him and he bolted out through the hedge and into the field towards me . the into the field towards me. the republicans have often said , oh, republicans have often said, oh, well, he wasn't armed. he was armed. he was armed with a mark 12 mortar. yes. he didn't have them on him that day. but most times when terrorists were doing things like that, they carried additional firearms on them. and when you are involved in a shooting, you have literally you don't even have a second to make a decision. he kept running towards me. i dropped the back of the weapon down. so it meant that the rounds would go over the top of his head. a fire, two warning shots and he just kept coming. and he was closing the distance and a five fired five further round, three of which

had him one hit him in the hand , one hit him in the side of the year on accident, the back of his neck, but actually never penetrated his skull. and the fatal round went through his abdomen . i went through four abdomen. i went through four investigations. first of all, a kid investigation . then that kid investigation. then that file was passed with no recommendation of conviction . recommendation of conviction. the dpp , the public prosecution, the dpp, the public prosecution, they found that there was no case grade with the police . then case grade with the police. then i was then interviewed by what was called complaints and discipline , which is like pony. discipline, which is like pony. the ombudsman nowadays. they find no wrongdoing and what i did that night then at the inquest, so it was justifiable killing that night she roll on 25 years the police ombudsman,

northern ireland then decided that they were going to investigate even it was exactly the same that was said 25 years ago . and most of my anger is ago. and most of my anger is against the police ombudsman because is for seven years on one month until the pps said there was no case. i've been under this cloud for seven years and one month and it's not pleasant . i live in fear for my pleasant. i live in fear for my life because during that period of time , police ombudsman and of time, police ombudsman and for me and the police that all my details had been given to the solicitor's practise as representing the family . a representing the family. a dossier of information that had my picture , that had my name , my picture, that had my name, they had my mobile phone number, they had my mobile phone number, they had my address, they had my company name. and where i worked

. so i've gone through all my details being leaked to a solicitors practise and within that solicitors practise individual keeps referring to me as a murderer. he did it recently on a news program or a media programme. he also, in a bio for the website for himself he refers to the ruc murder of colin marks in april 1991. now that's completely contrary to what the cps decided , and what the cps decided, and because the cps decided that in may of this year that there was no fresh evidence . but then no fresh evidence. but then immediately after words, the solicitors practise working for the family are challenging the cps decision . so is it a case of cps decision. so is it a case of they'll not be happy till they get what they want or do they want the truth ? and april of

want the truth? and april of this year that was seven years under invest instigation reinvestigation of me . it's now reinvestigation of me. it's now in the september and i'm now facing . my sixth and first facing. my sixth and first occasion. if that's not vindictive or anxious, i don't understand . but i can tell you understand. but i can tell you now and i look in the eyes and say, i did not go out that night to kill anybody . to kill anybody. >> right. you've been getting in touch this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com about transgender guidance in schools victor gao or lack of a very small number of children might declare gender dysphoria. some of them might simply be attention seekers mistaken having mental problems or have parents might react parents that might react violently. most violently. i believe most parents decent people who parents are decent people who care their children and care about their children and this also on on starmer's this is also on on starmer's impressive immigration plan . impressive immigration plan. >> we're going to let more in.

>> we're going to let more in. >> andrew, just in case you didn't realise, we're going to let more in. >> they might be illegal now, but they're going to be legal under going under this plan. she's going to do deal the eu to have a do a deal with the eu to have a burden sharing, which means more coming keir starmer we're coming here. keir starmer we're full up. >> laughing because you >> i'm only laughing because you couldn't of write it. couldn't kind of write it. >> charlie has said labour constantly should constantly say they should process quickly, so process asylum more quickly, so instead 95% instead they would give 95% to stay. would labour house stay. where would labour house them? says having them? and michael says having a labour be the labour government would be the worst this country worst outcome for this country unden worst outcome for this country under. the under. fortunately, the conservatives shown conservatives have not shown that trusted either. that they can be trusted either. they've betrayed their own elected people elected leaders and the people who policies . who believed their policies. >> i think we are going to get a labour government. it looks like >> i think we are going to get a laidoesn't ernment. it looks like >> i think we are going to get a laidoesn't it? ment. it looks like >> i think we are going to get a laidoesn't it? butit. it looks like >> i think we are going to get a laidoesn't it? but that looks like >> i think we are going to get a laidoesn't it? but that policy.ike it, doesn't it? but that policy won't help them. now coming up next, home secretary, suella next, the home secretary, suella braverman, urged urgent commissioned urged urgent advice about awful bully about banning those awful bully dogs spate of recent dogs after the spate of recent attacks. but we asking you, are we giving them too hard a time that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. it's good morning again. >> it's 1023. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. >> so the home secretary said that she has commissioned urgent advice about banning the american following american bully dogs following the footage of an the brutal cctv footage of an 11 year old attacked. year old being attacked. >> but the dog trust says banning all american bully xl breeds unfair would breeds is unfair and would punish, so punish, well behaved pets. so are being too harsh? are we being too harsh? >> with us to discuss this is dog john gardner at and dog trainer john gardner at and dog behaviourist stan rawlinson. good morning, gentlemen. thank you so much forjoining us. let me come to you first, john. is this an emotional reaction now? because this this footage is so shocking and you think do you think we should be a bit more measured before taking such decisive action? >> good morning . i think the

>> good morning. i think the emotional reaction is entirely normal. it's a human reaction . normal. it's a human reaction. and my concern is that we've beenin and my concern is that we've been in this situation before with pit bulls in the 1980s and, you know, they were banned and we're back in that situation now. so i do think that whilst we need to we need to introduce some serious measures to reduce this or eradicate this type of attack . um, you know, it does attack. um, you know, it does need to be measured and balanced against it, some kind of wider policy with not all dog breeds but but certainly powerful dog breeds. >> let's get stan rawlinson. and stan, you wrote a really good piece in the mail this week. and you make the point because a lot of people say it's not about bad dogs. it's about bad owners. but your point is this. these can be very bad dogs .

very bad dogs. >> absolutely , andrew. i mean, >> absolutely, andrew. i mean, we are talking that the dogs are actually weapon grade. um they're a fraction of the overall dog population , but that overall dog population, but that that small amount is responsible for 75% of all the deaths over the last three years. and that's just not acceptable. however there and now i've called for changes in the law and we do need them. however i've actually created or sat down and thought what should be brought in and it shouldn't be just on the dog. there should be a long response ability on the owners and i do believe the owners have got to believe the owners have got to be licenced and the dogs have got to be licenced. and if the owners are licenced, they've got to be some very strict requirements. minimum age of 18, for instance , proof of identity for instance, proof of identity , proof of having no criminal records as proof of not being

mentally ill or physically incapable of holding these big dogs. incapable of holding these big dogs . i'm not talking about dogs. i'm not talking about every dog . i'm talking about the every dog. i'm talking about the dogs that we've got listed down that have killed many, many people over the last few years. and we've got to really change things. it must be an insurance contract taken out for that dog for a minimum of £100,000. so if someone is injured, i'm not insured. i've got no money. yeah proof of proof of identification and microchip for these dogs. every one of these dogs should be on a short lead. and they also should be muzzled in public and any handlers or dog walkers who walk them should also know fall in touch with that particular situation. and i want a massive change to the law. it's got to be done. so there's two aspects of it. if we are going to say to just the owners , but at least it's going to take the owners in, but it's also going to take into

consideration the dogs . so dogs consideration the dogs. so dogs with strong blocky heads, muscly large mouths really, really, really fighting dogs. and these a genetic de—man. >> john yeah, yeah, absolutely . >> john yeah, yeah, absolutely. stan i don't disagree with any of that. i think that's really sensible. but john, how about you? i think those sound you? because i think those sound like measures. like really sensible measures. and is that and what i'm thinking is that amount of hassle would therefore become a deterrent to some lazy thug wants to use a dog thug who just wants to use a dog as a gun . as a gun. >> so yeah, absolutely . i agree >> so yeah, absolutely. i agree with, with with pretty much everything stan has said . and everything stan has said. and it's these are ideas that we're sharing around my own peer group , i think drastic changes are needed across the board . i think needed across the board. i think it's important to remember, though, that you know, this isn't just big dogs and look, big dogs do a lot of damage. but i think if we're going to make change, then it needs to be

across the board and it needs to recognise that , um, you know, it recognise that, um, you know, it isn't always big breeds of dogs that are biting. we need to look at the statistics of what dogs are biting . you know, we train are biting. you know, we train 98% of the dogs. we train are reactive , aggressive dogs. of reactive, aggressive dogs. of that 98% and a vast majority are small dogs. now, a small dog biting you or i hurts . trust me. biting you or i hurts. trust me. um, but it's not going to cause the damage that a bully type. >> john, a lot of people , john, >> john, a lot of people, john, a lot of people watching and listening will say they've they've seen these videos of these frankenstein dogs just ban them, just ban them, get rid of them, just ban them, get rid of them because they're because they can they've killed so many people me that 16 is an >> it shocks me that 16 is an age that you can go out and buy age that you can go out and buy a dog. um it shocks me that , you a dog. um it shocks me that, you know, without any experience you can go and get these dogs. but

all of this is happening. um outside of licenced breeders. you know, these dogs are being sold by word of mouth, etcetera . the other thing that is that p0ps . the other thing that is that pops to mind with this, you know, because i train dogs that are on court orders , these dogs are on court orders, these dogs will come to us on a court order saying that they have to wear a muzzle , which, you know, that's muzzle, which, you know, that's absolutely a responsible thing to do. but there's nothing governing what muzzle the dog wears. so you know, in compliance with the court order, you can go to pets at home and get a plastic £5.99 muzzle that is, you know, no use to anyone. and i've actually seen a dog on a court order, a big dog, and the muzzle was basically a whole tin for those of those that don't know what that is, it's basically a lead that wraps over the mouth. it doesn't shut the mouth or protect anyone. so just you know, i agree with stan that

there needs to be a massive discussion and a big change in how we look at dogs and how we categorise. >> john, what sorry to interrupt, but what's situation would dog to have got would a dog have to have got into to have a court order against it? okay >> so again, i think this is where, um. >> oh, sorry , sorry. maybe. >> oh, sorry, sorry. maybe. stan. stan, do you know what? stan. stan, do you know what? stan let's bring you in. what situation would a dog have to be in have a court order? and in to have a court order? and why haven't why hasn't that dog just been put down? >> reason it doesn't always >> the reason it doesn't always mean or mean that it's killed someone or killed a dog, but it's been dangerously control. the dangerously out of control. the pubuc dangerously out of control. the public private place. the public or a private place. the law changed 2014. again at law changed in 2014. again at one time it was only dangerous , one time it was only dangerous, out of control in a public place . but then, of course, they found most of the people getting killed were getting killed in their own homes. the bullies are perfect one, it's killed a lot of their owners, a lot of the people. there's three trainers in the last two years, people are professional handlers. one of them one of the guys , a very,

of them one of the guys, a very, very sadly , he was very sadly, he was a rehabilitator of dogs . very sadly, he was a rehabilitator of dogs. his very sadly, he was a rehabilitator of dogs . his wife rehabilitator of dogs. his wife had died a year before from cancen had died a year before from cancer. he had six children and he spell bully and knocked him, killed him within seconds . this killed him within seconds. this guy was a really experienced trainer. so if experienced people are getting killed, what is the general public going to do? >> absolutely . thank you, >> absolutely. thank you, gentlemen. dog trainer, john gardner, dog behaviourist , stan gardner, dog behaviourist, stan rawlinson there . thank you so rawlinson there. thank you so much. wow. what we don't want to do, though, is the government rushing in and doing dodgy legislation like they did with the dangerous dogs back in 1999. >> and they got it horribly wrong. >> great suggestions there, i think. very good managing. >> i like the idea about the £100,000 >> i like the idea about the £10i ,ooo >> i like the idea about the £10i d0,) >> i like the idea about the £101 do, because of course, if >> i do, because of course, if you if you are injured by a dog in way, you have in that way, you will have a loss of earnings. yeah, you will not be able go to work. not be able to go to work. sometimes will never able sometimes you will never be able to again. to work again. >> you might need plastic

surgery. >> absolutely. so anyway, i'm glad we're this glad we're having this conversation. i think it needs more awareness right. still to come, matt hancock, remember him, to push his him, said he wants to push his limits, does just limits, but does it just make you push him a you want to push him off a cliff? it does. me. here is the news with rhiannon jones . news with rhiannon jones. >> bev, thank you. it's 1032. >> bev, thank you. it's1032. your top stories from the newsroom . the number of people newsroom. the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment has hit a record high of 7.68 million. it's the highest number since records began in august two thousand and seven. earlier the government announced the nhs will receive £200 million to help the service in the coming winter. but labour's referred to the money as a sticking plaster . sir keir starmer says he'll seek an eu wide returns agreement for those who cross the channel and come to the uk illegally . the labour leader illegally. the labour leader says the deal may involve a quid pro quo of accepting migrants from the bloc . sir

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britain's newsroom on gb news andrew beresford does that noise you can hear the background of course is karen malone waiting? not even not waiting to be introduced when starts introduced when she starts rattling. >> laugh this. rattling. >> carole laugh this. rattling. >> carole malone, this. rattling. >> carole malone, karen malone , >> carole malone, karen malone, sam lipsyte delay. >> a lot the time, want to >> a lot of the time, we want to talk you too, about sir keir talk to you too, about sir keir starmer . starmer. >> what a gift for the tories . >> what a gift for the tories. surely they're not going to blow this one. >> but you know, the just this week, the national crime agency made absolutely , made it absolutely, categorically that that categorically clear that that starmer's policy of trying to smash the gangs was not going to work because they made the point that all you need to be a trafficker is a dinghy and a phone. and they said, so you smash one lot and another lot p0ps smash one lot and another lot pops up. so they are saying that they're saying current they're saying all the current deterrents will not work. so what starmer's new policy what does starmer's new policy include? that include? all of the things that the agency, which the national crime agency, which is the equivalent of our fbi, say aren't to work, but he say aren't going to work, but he thinks thinks that by having thinks he thinks that by having a meeting, a meeting with , well, a meeting, a meeting with, well, let's say what he wants to do first, what he's going to do is

he's going to let in. he wants to let in a of the asylum to let in a lot of the asylum seekers. that's right. that seekers. that's right. that that go and greece from asia go to italy and greece from asia and yeah he wants to let and africa. yeah he wants to let them through to us. yeah. in the naive stupid belief that that that france will allow to that france will allow us to send back some of the small boats that are right now the joke is that we are now paying france £500 million to do exactly that. and they're not doing it. so i don't know why starmer thinks they're going to doing it. so i don't know why ste because 1ks they're going to doing it. so i don't know why ste because he they're going to doing it. so i don't know why ste because he says�*re going to doing it. so i don't know why ste because he says so.]oing to doing it. so i don't know why ste because he says so. but; to doing it. so i don't know why ste because he says so. but this do because he says so. but this is basically, you know, immigration by the back door. he's open borders by the back doonl he's open borders by the back door, i should say. he's going to going open all the to he's going to open all the borders. france are not going to take any back. so we're going to borders. france are not going to takgetting ack. so we're going to borders. france are not going to takgetting the so we're going to borders. france are not going to takgetting the ones e're going to borders. france are not going to takgetting the ones that going to borders. france are not going to takgetting the ones that italy to be getting the ones that italy and greece don't want from asia and greece don't want from asia and and we're going to and africa. and we're going to be the small boats. be getting the small boats. yeah. is going hugely yeah. which is going to hugely increase. and it's called burden sharing . sharing. >> w- sharing. >> that's what he's >> well, yes, that's what he's calling share. calling it. burden share. in other we're to take other words, we're going to take a lot more here. >> we're going to take a lot more. we can't afford what we've got we got the facilities. >> well, there's no room.

>> well, there's no room. >> no room. you know, >> there's no room. you know, we're island and there's we're an island and there's room. but what isn't room. but what there isn't is the infrastructure. there's not the infrastructure. there's not the after the housing research after research, sam that the research, sam shows that the british people really british people feel really strongly government strongly about a government getting this situation. >> would he come and do >> why would he come out and do this does he think it's this now? does he think it's going to win him votes? >> i it shows that he is >> i think it shows that he is increasingly confident that's what i think. >> thinks he's the bag already. >> yeah, he can be a bit bolder. >> yeah, he can be a bit bolder. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> obviously we've seen him being over the last being so cautious over the last few and is the first few years and this is the first time he's actually really kind of where his mouth of put his money where his mouth is. i think, know, it's is. but i think, you know, it's fundamentally as a policy fundamentally flawed as a policy because protect because the eu does not protect its borders. yes. and the its own borders. yes. and the fact in italy, fact that in italy, particularly, they are struggling are getting struggling and they are getting no from the eu as an no support from the eu as an institution tackle this institution to tackle this problem they feel like, problem and they feel like, you know, hundreds thousands of know, hundreds of thousands of migrants are going to illegally cross and cross into italy this year. and obviously that becomes obviously then that becomes a knock impact for us because knock on impact for us because they travel across and come over on small boats. the fact that on small boats. so the fact that he prepared to on the he is prepared to rely on the eu, which is already failing his own which is

own members, i know, which is astonishing, left. astonishing, which we've left. >> yeah. which we've. and there was other day, was a poll the other day, malone, said two thirds of malone, it said two thirds of the country stand the the country can't stand the government's migration government's policy on migration . lost control of our . we've lost control of our borders. work out why. borders. i can't work out why. it's only thirds. i can't it's only two thirds. i can't understand why it's not. 99% of the country think they've lost control this. but there was control of this. but there was just a part that poll showed just a part of that poll showed people the left very people on the left are very unhappy about immigration unhappy about our immigration policy. us look like policy. it makes us look like we're intolerant country . we're an intolerant country. >> yeah, of course. of course. which is rubbish. but what sam just and it's and just said there and it's and it's absolutely true about the star confident is macron is star was confident is macron is also confident that he's going to next leader of this to be the next leader of this country because know country because you know historically don't invite historically they don't invite a deputy, you know, the leader of the over to have the opposition over to have discussions about the future of the country. so they're in doing that. that's macron saying. but, you know, macron, you know, starmer a fool if he believes starmer is a fool if he believes anything macron says about immigration, a fool. if he immigration, he's a fool. if he believes can achieve what the believes he can achieve what the likes of, you know , suella and likes of, you know, suella and pretty and rishi could not, you

know, macron sees him as a soft touch. and this is a way to get britain more involved with. they miss our money. they want us back in some which way we're going to be flooded. we are not just. but i worry about the other arrangements that that will involve us as well, not just immigration. the other stuff that that we lost when we left because of brexit. i think this is a slow walk back. you know, you i mean, look, when keir starmer was famously asked in that interview, do you prefer westminster? >> where do you prefer to be westminster or davos? he said, davos because he's is even davos because he's he he is even more a globalist, more of a globalist, a borderless world. he's one borderless world. he's a one planet, one population, one government kind of guy. and that's he's us. that's what he's told us. >> very, very comment. >> very, very odd comment. i don't what he was thinking don't know what he was thinking there because, you know, ultimately people want their leaders to be focussed on domestic they want domestic policies. they want them focussed what them to be focussed on what people want. people in the country want. >> but i think you've >> but what but i think you've put finger it, sam. put your finger on it, sam. >> there are 20 points ahead in the polls. he thinks now they're home can once home and dry, so he can once tell one policy that he's tell us one policy that he's actually got, is a gift

actually got, which is a gift for tories and the red wall for the tories and the red wall and the remain and the remain. >> audience remain >> audience yeah. the remain voters actually, the tories really have use this now to really have to use this now to capitalise really have to use this now to capbut se really have to use this now to capbut will really have to use this now to cap but will they. >> but will they. >> but will they. >> they haven't. but will they. >> they haven't. but will they. >> the thing is, that's the >> but the thing is, that's the thing. >> why aren't they all over the radio and tv attacking it? radio and tv today attacking it? >> know every win every every radio and tv today attacking it? >> know/ every win every every radio and tv today attacking it? >> know own ry win every every radio and tv today attacking it? >> know own goal�*i every every radio and tv today attacking it? >> know own goal thatiry every radio and tv today attacking it? >> know own goal that starmer you know own goal that starmer scores tories just drop the scores the tories just drop the ball. do it. and this ball. they don't do it. and this is weakness. ball. they don't do it. and this is we've neakness. ball. they don't do it. and this is we've got> we've got a source quoted in the mail. why isn't the tory party chairman banging on about this morning, noon and night? >> rishi sunak's out and about today. so he's bound to be asked about i'm sure will have about and i'm sure he will have quite line . quite a punchy line. >> well, he agrees. i mean, fundamentally, i think he agrees with think in with keir starmer. i think in his also thinks that's his heart he also thinks that's okay. that's why he doesn't come out swinging morning out swinging on a morning like this. >> sure m- m that. because >> sure about that. because i think actually rishi is think actually rishi sunak is far wing than people far more right wing than people really he's more really appreciate. he's far more right than boris johnson right wing than boris johnson ever was, and actually is ever was, and he actually is quite, know, know, so quite, you know, you know, so why it why is it so who

why doesn't it why is it so who is he trying to appease? >> who is trying to why is he >> who is he trying to why is he not being himself on the on not being himself then on the on on national stage, i think on the national stage, i think you will see him be quite bold. >> interesting. >> well, that's interesting. >> well, that's interesting. >> about him being >> but you talk about him being right wing. i was at a do at downing street last week on thursday afternoon was thursday afternoon and it was mrs. talked about mrs. thatcher was talked about much. a private much. it was a private university, buckingham university and oliver letwin who's oliver who's not oliver letwin, oliver dowden, prime dowden, the deputy prime minister, of course dowden, the deputy prime minissunak of course dowden, the deputy prime minissunak is of course dowden, the deputy prime minissunak is a of course dowden, the deputy prime minissunak is a true course rishi sunak is a true thatcherite. i nearly i heard people spluttering, i heard glasses dropping people fainting with nobody he with shock because nobody he agrees. yeah, of course they don't. >> we don't see any of that, do we? >> is he margaret thatcher? no he's not. >> he's very socially conservative. i mean. well, he says he's publicly he's economically conservative, but we actually see we don't actually see any evidence that as he keeps the evidence of that as he keeps the social conservative. >> the case. >> that's the case. >> that's the case. >> he's secretly as he keeps taxing us and taxing us. and by the way, oliver, down there is going on about cancel culture and government is and the tory government is standing up. >> and to him afterwards, >> and i said to him afterwards, you're not you're not doing anything you're not you're not doing any it'sig you're not you're not doing any it's not being being >> it's not being so being conservative. it's popular

conservative. it's not popular on stage at the on the global stage at the moment. that was the day moment. that's that was the day to trudeau. that was the day to see trudeau. that was the day in reported in your paper you'd reported that abandoning plans to that he was abandoning plans to give schools proper clear advice on what to with trans kids. on what to do with trans kids. >> really, they've got >> i mean, really, they've got to that out because that is to sort that out because that is a very, very important issue. and just the front and it is just on the front pages again. >> right. let's talk about >> right. sam, let's talk about pensioners being betrayed by the risk to the triple lock and securing the value of the pension . the express been pension. the express have been big your newspaper big on this. your newspaper by—line on the front page of your newspapers. >> i've noticed. >> i've noticed. >> you try to time >> sam lister you try to time it. >> you didn't even bring it in to show us. >> i've it somewhere. yeah >> i've got it somewhere. yeah it's let's. let's hold it's in fact, let's. let's hold it's in fact, let's. let's hold it there we are. so, i mean, it up. there we are. so, i mean, this it's shame because, this is. it's a shame because, you had to relaunch you know, we've had to relaunch this campaign. we did this campaign year. and one of campaign last year. and one of eventually had to eventually jeremy hunt had to kind of back down the autumn kind of back down in the autumn statement confirmed the statement that confirmed the triple go ahead. triple lock would go ahead. and i actually believe we'd i didn't actually believe we'd be yeah be back here again this year. yeah, in the yeah, again. but we're in the same position. i just think same position. and i just think fundamentally the prime minister and the chancellor don't seem to

understand triple lock means lock. and the triple lock means that you don't have these discussions. it happens automatically. the fact discussions. it happens auto they'rely. the fact discussions. it happens auto they're saying the fact discussions. it happens auto they're saying decisions that they're saying no decisions have or no decision have to be taken or no decision has to be taken, the triple lock means no decision has to be taken. so had relaunch taken. so we've had to relaunch this huge issue this campaign. it's a huge issue for readers. i think it's for our readers. i think it's the number one issue our the number one issue for our readers and we will always fight for readers this. but for our readers on this. but i think, you know, they they're definitely trying to water it down. >> going to say, we saw >> i was going to say, we saw this a leak from the this week a leak from the treasury that they might remove from triple public from the triple lock public sector as which would sector bonuses as which would cut mean pensioners would get £74 of £74 less. that's the start of salami slicing it. >> yeah, but do you know what really upsets me? they talk when they triple lock they talk about the triple lock and much it's going to and how much money it's going to cost country. they talk cost the country. they talk about that they're giving pensioners charity. they are not. these are people who've paid into the system all of their right. and so, you their lives. right. and so, you know, mp that i say know, i heard an mp that i say they got 3.5% rise last year. so what the train drivers are just getting 9% pay rise. why shouldn't the pensioners , you shouldn't the pensioners, you know, they're on a grand know, and they're on a 68 grand salary, you know the pension

fund single the sum of nearly 2 million people who have nothing but the state pension and our pension is not particularly generous compared to other countries. a month. yeah. countries. £700 a month. yeah. take tax off that. it's £500 take the tax off that. it's £500 a month. could any of us survive on £500? that wouldn't cover your makeup bill for a month . your makeup bill for a month. wouldn't cover hair dye . wouldn't cover your hair dye. that's it. but but just but i just think, you know, this is a betrayal pensioners . and i betrayal of pensioners. and i just you deserve that. >> so did you . >> so did you. >> so did you. >> but it's just a betrayal of the most vulnerable in our society . you know what's going society. you know what's going to happen this winter when you know not as much know there's not as much government help for heating and all yeah. all the stuff? yeah, yeah. what's happen then ? you what's going to happen then? you know, the £500 a month and it's all politics. >> well, maybe, also >> well, maybe, but also politically it politically it is insanity. it is insanity . is insanity. >> and i honestly, yesterday, me and some my colleagues down and some of my colleagues down the corridor in westminster on all newspapers we were all the newspapers we were trying work, what the trying to work, what is the strategy? yeah. because we strategy? yeah. yeah. because we cannot work it out. i'm sure there's some clever people cannot work it out. i'm sure thithereiome clever people cannot work it out. i'm sure th

conservative party. >> people over age who >> people over the age of 60 who are impacted by the are going to be impacted by the triple lock. >> they feel all the time like this is a betrayal. don't this is a betrayal. and i don't think any for the think there's any win for the government on this, because once you honour the triple you once you honour the triple lock, they're going to lock, i mean, they're going to have to honour the triple lock with tough out there for >> it's tough out there for pensioners at the moment is we talk the rise of tech. talk about the rise of tech. i mean struggle don't mean you even struggle don't you, your with your you, with your with your phone struggle your clue . struggle and your clue. >> i've talked about downloading some never some music. i've never downloaded my life. downloaded music in my life. i don't how to do it. don't know how to do it. >> i want to go and buy a buy a single, didn't you? i did buy an lp. don't they exist still? you know, life is tough at the moment for those who were getting a bit even older than getting on a bit even older than you. they're you. andrew and so they're already and if you already feeling it. and if you start talking about it, it's just just cruelty. you just cruel, just cruelty. you have minister who pays have a prime minister who pays £300 for coffee cup and no £300 for a coffee cup and no pair shoes he's talking pair of shoes and he's talking about cutting pensioners month. >> yeah, it's a terrible look. >> yeah, it's a terrible look. >> we talk about harry >> yeah. can we talk about harry and meghan? believe and meghan? i can't believe we've got the end of this we've got to the end of this week with the invictus games

going you haven't groaned yet. >> i'm going to grow now. she's there and she's trying to upstage him. course. prepare upstage him. of course. prepare yourself. the stage upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. the stage upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. what the stage upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. what does the stage upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. what does shes stage upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. what does she do?ge upstage him. of course. prepare yourrhim. what does she do? she with him. what does she do? she pushes him out of the way and she takes microphone off. she takes the microphone off. did you see that? >> did. she did it. quite my reading. >> she did that. that's exactly what she did. i came this morning. >> i looked at the little podcasting thing you did yesterday, started off yesterday, and it started off with, just say it, i don't with, i'll just say it, i don't like actually said, like meghan actually said, i can't stand her. >> said, i can't stand her. >> i said, i can't stand her. well, to be honest, well, i've got to be honest, just case people thought just in case people thought i might be neutral or sitting on the fence. >> meghan markle no ambiguity >> on meghan markle no ambiguity on this. >> g she's a e she's a menace. >> andrew no, she's a menace. but prince harry sam but look, prince harry sam invictus what he does invictus games is what he does well, what he should well, this is what he should always focussed on. always have been focussed on. what amazing event. these what an amazing event. these people awesome. in this people are awesome. in this event. >> $- @ think it's a >> yeah, and i think it's a shame that soap opera around shame that the soap opera around those taking away from those two is taking away from the stuff that is the great stuff that is happening games. happening at the invictus games. and always the shame, and that's always the shame, isn't that the this isn't it, that the this overshadows everything do overshadows everything and do you not think yesterday though, when was with her. when he was with her.

>> i have not seen him look that confident that ebullient for a very long time. the first time she's been with for a very she's been with him for a very long time. and i'm like, yo, piers, have a lot of piers, i don't have a lot of time for her, but he was he's got no time for time. but he got no time for no time. but he was different guy yesterday. was a different guy yesterday. and thought it was and i just thought it was interesting. but, know, interesting. but, you know, a lot the people in lot of the people involved in the are saying his the games are saying his involvement be proving involvement could be proving difficult because difficult for them because because involved, the because of he's involved, the rest of the royals are not. >> and they historically need that. that that. they were saying that there's been chatter from there's been more chatter from there's been more chatter from the royals about the the other royals about the highland this year than highland games this year than the invictus games. >> that's a very good point, actually. >> and it hasn't had much pubuchy >> and it hasn't had much publicity the normally. publicity in the way normally. well, time well, as you said, first time we've about it this week, we've talked about it this week, i know normally you'd expect and of last year when she of course, last year when she was there, talked about my was there, she talked about my husband. that was there, she talked about my huslyear. that was there, she talked about my huslyear. she that was there, she talked about my huslyear. she talked that was there, she talked about my huslyear. she talked aboutat this year. she talked about herself good at that. >> of course. but, you know, i mean, although i don't like it, i'm thinking between rock and i'm thinking between a rock and a no, a rock and a hard place because she did bring hollywood to is no question and to it. there is no question and would the coverage

would not have got the coverage it today had it not been for it got today had it not been for her. and i'm like, you know, her reasons it. however reasons for doing it. however it gave the publicity it gave the game the publicity it should have. >> so, they don't like a >> so, yeah, they don't like a marriage in trouble, though, sam, do they? been the sam, do they? that's been the rumour the rumour that they're on the rocks. don't look like it. rocks. they don't look like it. and as carole said, it's almost like his oxygen, like he like she's his oxygen, like he comes little bit more comes to life a little bit more when she's around. he appears from when she's around. he appears frori'm no psychologist to be >> i'm no psychologist to be a man needs a strong woman in man who needs a strong woman in his life. i think he does seem to cling to a strong woman. but, his life. i think he does seem to c know, a strong woman. but, his life. i think he does seem to c know, you:rong woman. but, his life. i think he does seem to c know, you have woman. but, his life. i think he does seem to c know, you have to man. but, his life. i think he does seem to c know, you have to remember you know, you have to remember people public eye, you people in the public eye, you know, many of them have marriages that aren't that happy, manage to put on marriages that aren't that h.front. manage to put on marriages that aren't that h.front. yeah, manage to put on marriages that aren't that h.front. yeah, because ]e to put on marriages that aren't that h.front. yeah, because it to put on marriages that aren't that h.front. yeah, because it serves on a front. yeah, because it serves their purposes. so you know, i don't they're even if they don't think they're even if they were unhappy, don't were deeply unhappy, i don't think it. were deeply unhappy, i don't thirno, it. were deeply unhappy, i don't thirno, no. it. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> it was a show. it was it was like a red carpet event. she made it into a red carpet event. yeah >> which is what she does, though. she brings and do you know does to me? it know what it does to me? it just. it still makes me really sad what's happened their sad of what's happened to their relationship and the potential that particularly to that she had, particularly to breathe into that

breathe modern life into that royal family. when you see a glimpse, you think, oh, you messed it but anyway, when messed it up, but anyway, when she she arrived, said, she when she arrived, she said, i'm sorry wasn't here at the i'm sorry i wasn't here at the beginning. >> said i had to do the >> she said i had to do the school come on. >> she said i had to do the sch are come on. >> she said i had to do the sch are you come on. >> she said i had to do the schare you kidding? come on. >> she said i had to do the schare you kidding? andyme on. >> she said i had to do the schare you kidding? and ine on. >> she said i had to do the schare you kidding? and i had 1. to. >> i had to buy the milkshake. well, on the way to school, do you give children milkshake on the way to school? what do you do with whether you don't? >> doing it. no >> she ain't doing it. no exactly. >> she ain't doing it. no exactthought that is the most >> i thought that is the most idiotic, idea. idiotic, bogus, stupid idea. nobody many nobody believes it. how many staff has she got on the payroll? >> it's so patronising. >> it's so patronising. >> that's when becomes an actress. >> you get those moments where and think about the and when you think about the parents who genuinely struggle with the run, which is with the school run, which is not she's just trying not her. no, she's just trying to of well she's not. to be one of us. well she's not. but anyway, right. thank you, ladies. will back in a ladies. you will be back in a little we're going little while. we're also going to the next half to be talking in the next half of show about the second of the show about the second stage of potentially being scrapped. >> a important story. >> a very important story. story. it's huge. >> we're to talking >> we're going to be talking about on gb news, britain's about it on gb news, britain's news channel. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar sponsors of weather solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hello again .

on. gb news. hello again. >> low pressures bring some blustery , windy weather across blustery, windy weather across northern parts . whilst in the northern parts. whilst in the south we have some warm air across us with a bit of rain in between. that's because we have this front lying across us. you can see it trying to push a little bit further southwards through today, but not making much progress a result. it is much progress as a result. it is going to be quite a cloudy, wet picture across this central slice the uk, central parts slice of the uk, a central parts of england and into wales. some heavy welsh heavy bursts over the welsh mountains to the south of this we're quite a deal we're seeing quite a good deal of sunshine. that warm of sunshine. and with that warm air mentioned, temperatures air i mentioned, temperatures a little bit above average for the time of year, perhaps a touch higher yesterday, higher than yesterday, highs around 24 or celsius cooler around 24 or 25 celsius cooler further north and windy still with risk of some coastal with the risk of some coastal gales and 1 or 2 showers dotted around parts of scotland and northern perhaps northern ireland. perhaps through the end of the day, this band gradually going band of rain is gradually going to its way northwards into to push its way northwards into more parts england. more northern parts of england. northern ireland and southern scotland . the winds the north scotland. the winds in the north will gradually start ease, will gradually start to ease,

clearing but staying clearing away, but staying blustery for orkney and shetland, temperatures may be a touch down to night for touch down to last night for some could get into some places. could get into single across some single figures across some southern which southern parts, which is markedly cooler than recent nights through friday morning. then this front not going anywhere particularly fast so staying and wet across staying cloudy and wet across parts northern ireland. parts of northern ireland. southern scotland far southern scotland and the far north england. a few showers north of england. a few showers across the far north. meanwhile across the far north. meanwhile across parts of across central southern parts of england lots of fine, england and wales, lots of fine, sunny be had and sunny weather to be had and temperatures a touch temperatures perhaps a touch higher some by by higher than today for some by by the temperatures rising . the temperatures rising. >> a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news and a big of weather on. gb news and a big breaking news story today the government appears is going to cancel the second stage of hs2 , cancel the second stage of hs2, the high speed rail link. >> that's the one from birmingham to the to north manchester to save billions of pounds. we're going to be talking a tory mp who thinks talking to a tory mp who thinks that's good idea. and that's a very good idea. and i certainly good certainly think it's a good idea. what mess.

good morning. it's 11:00 good morning. it's11:00 on thursday, the 14th of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so next to halt there are reports that the chancellor and the prime minister are trying to find a way to cancel hs2.

the prime minister are trying to find a way to cancel hs2 . you find a way to cancel hs2. you heard that correctly. the mp who pressed rishi sunak on the issue yesterday in parliament is joining us live . joining us live. >> cache wins in the wake of our petition handed in to downing street. latest figures show a rise in the use of cash. liam halligan will be here to tell us more. >> a ticket office turmoil sticking with the trains. the fight to save our ticket offices as travel apps are accused of fleecing passengers . fleecing passengers. and those ticket offices of which i think it's hugely important that that decision to close maul is blocked. >> i agree. cash is really important there because you can pay important there because you can pay cash at the ticket office, try and use those machines. so complicated. and of course, you have use a card. have to use a card. >> it's really difficult. what does that mean? it just means people will less. people does that mean? it just means pe0jbe will less. people does that mean? it just means pe0jbe dispirited. less. people does that mean? it just means pe0jbe dispirited. they people does that mean? it just means pe0jbe dispirited. they won'te will be dispirited. they won't want their house. want to go out of their house. they visit their family.

they won't visit their family. they'll end up more they'll end up being more lonely. so let us know what you think at home. views. at think at home. gb views. at gbnews.com email address. gbnews.com is the email address. first though, rhiannon first though, here is rhiannon jones i'm beth. jones in the newsroom. i'm beth. >> thank you. good morning. it's 11:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom . and we start with gb newsroom. and we start with some breaking news. three met police officers will face a misconduct hearing for their role in the strip search of child. q the incident took place at a school in hackney in december of 2020. it's alleged the three officers didn't follow procedure and that they discriminated against. q due to her race and gender, the met says the incident should never have happened and that they've made significant practical improvements . the made significant practical improvements. the number of people waiting to start routine hospital treatment has hit a record high of 7.68 million. that's the highest number since

records began in august two thousand and seven. earlier the government announced the nhs will receive £200 million to help the service in the coming winter. but labour's referred to the money as a sticking plaster . sir keir starmer says he'll seek an eu wide returns agreement for those who cross the channel and come to the uk illegally . the labour leader illegally. the labour leader says the deal may involve a quid pro quo of accepting migrants from the bloc. sir keir and shadow home secretary yvette cooper are meeting with eu's policing body europol in the hague today. shadow cabinet minister nick thomas—symonds told gb news labour want to bnng told gb news labour want to bring net migration down. >> there are countries now where the government could be fast tracking people through the asylum system so that they can be deported and they can be doing that now instead said we have a backlog in the asylum system of over 170,000 people

that that is a lack of control . that that is a lack of control. that's what this government is presiding over. and frankly, after 13 years, they ought to be sorting it out . sorting it out. >> well, the health secretary, steve barclay , is accused of steve barclay, is accused of giving up control . giving up control. >> l we're taking tougher action. we want to also , through action. we want to also, through our rwanda policy, have a very clear deterrent there, and that's before the courts. and what keir starmer again wants to do is give up control of immigration, sign up to quotas that are decided by the eu and remove the deterrent that rwanda would provide . and alongside the would provide. and alongside the return agreements that we put in place , the metropolitan police place, the metropolitan police has paid damages to two women arrested at a london vigil for sarah everard , patsy stevenson sarah everard, patsy stevenson and daniella obe took legal action against the force over their arrests at a protest dunng their arrests at a protest during covid restrictions . during covid restrictions. >> hundreds of people attended the vigil in march 2021 to pay their respects to ms everard,

who was kidnapped , raped and who was kidnapped, raped and murdered by police officer wayne couzens. he was sentenced to a whole life term in the king and queen. say they are desperately saddened by the catastrophic floods in libya in which at least 5300 people are now known to have died . the uk government to have died. the uk government says it will provide an assistance package worth up to £1 million storm daniel hit the coastal city of derna and other eastern parts of the north african country on sunday. it's feared the number of deaths could reach 20,000. more than 10,000 people are missing after dams burst and buildings were swept away . payments using cash swept away. payments using cash have risen for the first time in a decade . that's according to a decade. that's according to trading body uk finance. it says the number of payments made using notes and coins increased by 7% last year. it's thought people are making greater use of

cash as a way of managing budgets during the cost of living crisis as well. that is, more than a quarter of people are behind with at least one bill payment. that's according to citizens advice . the charity to citizens advice. the charity says just over a fifth have borrowed money to pay for essentials in the past six months. half of those seeking help from citizens advice was struggling with unpaid energy bills and overdue council taxes. the higher education policy institute says more than a quarter of uk universities have a food bank and its report found 1 in 10 has been giving out food vouchers as house prices declined in august at their fastest rate since 2009. that's according to the royal institution of chartered surveyors . and it says a surveyors. and it says a majority of property professionals are reporting declines largely due to high mortgage rates. new buyer inquiries also continued to fall. rents meanwhile, continue to rise as and a special project

to rise as and a special project to save rare species at the white cliffs of dover has been announced as part of a multi—million pound invest by natural england. it's hoped the £14.5 natural england. it's hoped the £145 million initiative will £14.5 million initiative will revive five 150 rare and threatened species from butterflies, birds and bees. funding will be used by various organisations and local authorities to carry out conservation efforts . this is gb conservation efforts. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back over to andrew and bev . to andrew and bev. >> the prime minister is out and about today and he's speaking about today and he's speaking about his nhs winter plan. he's at north devon district hospital . this is what he had to say. >> prime minister, where is this £200 million coming from? and what will it do to bring down

what will it do to bring down what we now know are record high waiting lists? >> well, winter is always a challenging time for the nhs and this year we've started planning for earlier than ever for winter. earlier than ever before. today we're announcing £200 million, which will go to the nhs to help build extra capacity and resilience this capacity and resilience for this winter season , making sure that winter season, making sure that patients the care that patients can get the care that they but also ensure that they need, but also ensure that we can continue to protect planned elective care. because that's important too. and this comes as part our record comes as part of our record funding for the nhs . funding increase for the nhs. earlier this year we also announced the long term workforce plan making sure that for first time we train more for the first time we train more doctors and nurses and dentists here in the uk, but also the work we're doing to improve nhs performance , which the results performance, which the results today delivering for today show is delivering for patients big improvements patients with big improvements in ambulance times and a&e times since the winter . since the winter. >> now you held a health leader summit in downing street yesterday, but the royal college of nursing say they weren't ianed. of nursing say they weren't invited . do you not think they invited. do you not think they had anything to add to the

discussion? >> no, we spoke to a range of different stakeholders in the nhs, obviously is in touch with all of its stakeholders all the time. had productive time. we had a very productive discussion actually, and there was alignment and was enormous alignment and consensus around what is required to deliver for the nhs this winter and the plans that we've put in place earlier this year are working. we took the time review them. we're time to review them. we're rolling 5000 more beds rolling out 5000 more beds across the nhs. that's on track, rolling out more ambulances rolling out 800 more ambulances and on track and we're and that's on track and we're rolling out virtual wards, which are innovations that doctors are new innovations that doctors have created that allow patients to at home with to be treated at home with technology , getting them home technology, getting them home quicker, capacity in quicker, freeing up capacity in hospitals, those things are hospitals, all those things are really delivering for patients. and that's why in emergency medicine we've seen big improvements in ambulance waiting times from december when i think everyone will remember how challenging it was. also how challenging it was. but also a&e performance , making sure a&e performance, making sure patients as quickly as patients are seen as quickly as possible. so the plan is working. the meeting working. and the meeting yesterday just for us to get yesterday was just for us to get together and make sure we're focussed on the right things for

this winter. >> standing a brand >> now we're standing in a brand new discharge now, some new discharge hub now, but some other aren't lucky. other hospitals aren't so lucky. why block plans to why did you block plans to rebuild five hospitals affected by crumbling concrete? three years ago, the health department requested you rebuild seven and you only approved two. that's. that's not right. >> the nhs has been looking at the issue of racks in 20 1918 and was funded with almost £700 million to mitigate rack that it was finding in hospitals. now there are now seven hospitals that are in the new hospital programme as new evidence came to light about the scale of rack, it was important to prioritise those hospitals. we made that decision earlier this year and on top of that, other hospitals are being mitigated in line with technical guidance line with the technical guidance and said, backed by almost and as i said, backed by almost £700 million, which was announced years ago, we announced years ago, because we do this issue very do take this issue very seriously and across the public sector, all departments are rightly surveying their estate and mitigating any rack in line

with technical guidance and backed with significant funding. in case the nhs. in the case of the nhs. >> now on to what your opposite number to. you may have number is up to. you may have noficed number is up to. you may have noticed the hague noticed he's off in the hague today attacking for what he today attacking you for what he describes as empty rhetoric over small boats. what do you make of his plans? >> well, keir starmer spent all of this year voting against our stop the boats bill. the toughest legislation that any government has passed tackle government has passed to tackle illegal migration. i think he spent last year voting spent most of last year voting against previous which against a previous bill, which has to almost 700 has since then led to almost 700 arrests related to organised immigration crime. so i don't think it's credible that he really wants to grip this problem and his plans today seem to to saying that we to amount to saying that we might one day accept 100,000 eu migrants every year. that doesn't seem like a credible plan to me to stop the boats . plan to me to stop the boats. meanwhile, we are getting on and delivering . for the first time delivering. for the first time ever this year, the number of small boat arrivals is down by almost a fifth. the number of illegal migrants crossing from albania is down by 90. we've got a plan. the plan is delivering

and determine ed to stop the and i'm determine ed to stop the boats . boats. >> rishi sunak there. he's in a hospital. well, we know he's in hospital. >> he's always tucks his tie in as though he's about to conduct open heart surgery. it makes no sense. but this £200 million have announced for the nhs. >> the nhs budget is an eye—watering £182 billion every yean eye—watering £182 billion every year, so 200 million, it's not even a drop in the ocean . even a drop in the ocean. >> there's nothing convincing about him. andrew when he's talking, i just all i hear is this word stakeholder. if you ever hear stakeholders that tells you something and i just i find everything he says, like he's just so rehearsed. there's nothing from the heart. he's so robotic and he could have been so much more emphatic about rishi, the labour leader's rishi, about the labour leader's insane plan to do what they call burden sharing with the eu. >> so migrants who come into italy and france, we will agree >> so migrants who come into which we've worked out would probably last year, have been an extra one, 100,000. that's

another small town. thank you very much. labour leader jeremy . what's his name, sir? .what's his name, sir? >> sir keir starmer , doing deals >> sir keir starmer, doing deals with his mates in the eu again. but you feel like rishi sunak kind of agrees with him ? kind of agrees with him? >> well, he's going to be in power backside is what it feels like. >> i've heard that phrase before. >> now let's talk about a story which you and i do agree. if this is happening, jeremy hunt and the prime minister are discussing scrapping the second stage of hs2, rail project, stage of hs2, the rail project, because costs are spiral rolling. >> that's right. the estimate the cost estimate reveals the government has already spent £2.3 billion on stage two alone. but shave shelving this northern phase would save up to 34 billion, so they've only wasted well, 2.4 on that stage alone . well, 2.4 on that stage alone. >> sir michael fabricant is tory mp and an outspoken critic of hs2 and he challenged rishi sunak about the project at prime minister's questions yesterday and he joins us now. minister's questions yesterday and he joins us now . michael, and he joins us now. michael, morning. you must be rather

pleased you got stuck into the prime minister yesterday at pmqs. very well done and it seems now that this second stage some would argue the most important stage actually between birmingham and manchester is going to be kiboshed . going to be kiboshed. >> well, i don't know that by the way. i always speak from the heart and i hope you'll agree with that. and i hope i sound convincing . but you do. it convincing. but you do. it certainly is . you do . thank you, certainly is. you do. thank you, bev. yes. i mean, it's fascinating , isn't it? i bev. yes. i mean, it's fascinating, isn't it? i mean, we i rose in parliament to talk about how dysfunctional hs2 limited is as a company. about how dysfunctional hs2 limited is as a company . we've limited is as a company. we've got road closures, footpath closures, people trespassing over private land who are hs2 operatives . nobody seems to know operatives. nobody seems to know how long the roads are going to be closed for. how long the roads are going to be closed for . the left hand be closed for. the left hand never seems to know what the right hand is doing . but my right hand is doing. but my point was , i actually you know ,

point was, i actually you know, why not stop it now after phase one? actually, i would dearly love to see the whole ruddy thing closed, but i don't think that's going to happen. and it would make sense in a way actually, because you could have high speed trains running down from manchester. and then if you complete at phase one, at phase one in my constituency, it actually links from the west coast main line, the regular line all the way across to hs2 too. so you could have trains running from manchester, albeit not at very high speeds, but regular high speeds, 125 miles an hour. it's pretty fast , in my an hour. it's pretty fast, in my opinion, running down from manchester and then on the leg from my patch all the way down to london, it would run at high speeds. so it would make a lot of sense, save a lot of money and actually stop a lot of misery from people along the path of hs2 that's being planned i >> -- >> so this stage one, michael , >> so this stage one, michael, from london to birmingham and if reports are true, that's where this is going to end. now, how much time on the journey has hs2

saved the passenger? well first of all, i've got to correct you. >> actually, phase one goes north of birmingham because i'm north of birmingham because i'm north of birmingham in litchfield, and then it connects , as i said, with coast , as i said, with the west coast main how time? ten main line. how much time? ten minutes. but they argue, of course, it's not time anymore. yeah, no, ten minutes faster to get to birmingham . get to birmingham. >> so and it's cost us how much and would have cost us how and it would have cost us how much get birmingham ten much to get to birmingham ten minutes quicker. >> listen, all, they >> listen, first of all, they said 15 billion, then they say 27 it's to going be 27 billion. now it's to going be 33 billion, probably 100 billion by the time satire is finished . by the time satire is finished. i mean, it's just utterly ridiculous, especially when so many friends of mine claim to be. and don't bleep me out here, please, because no gb news is a very, very tough on language that's used a lot of my friends say they're . and i said, what do say they're. and i said, what do you mean they're? and he said, well, we only work tuesdays, wednesdays and thursdays. you know, the point that there know, the point is that there isn't the use of the railways

that there were before covid. everything has changed. technology has changed. and, you know, this isn't like japan . know, this isn't like japan. jeremy hunt goes on and on and on about how he was in japan and how he loved the bullet trains . how he loved the bullet trains. well, first of all, japan is 3000 miles long. we're not even a thousand miles long. and secondly , apart from the bullet secondly, apart from the bullet trains, most trains in japan run at 40 miles an hour. so we've actually got pretty fast trains. the pendolinos run at 125. and even the london northwestern, slow train, slow in inverted commas . litchfield runs at 110 commas. litchfield runs at 110 miles an hour, which is a darn sight faster than most japanese trains. >> michael, we will have to apologise in your power for using that word because you don't use that word here on gb news. but can i press you the money that will be saved from not pressing ahead with hs2? would you put it simply to cut the national or would you the national debt or would you use other transport use it for other transport projects, which could be much

more i don't know more useful? well i don't know what other transport projects would be most useful because east west trains east west , east west trains east west, east, west trains. >> michael that would be very useful activity , we know quite useful activity, we know quite right. >> bev east west connectivity is absolutely dreadful and you know, getting across from sheffield, leeds and manchester is an absolute nightmare. so that would be very, very welcome indeed. >> all right. well, that's all right . michael fabricant, always right. michael fabricant, always good to talk to you . good to talk to you. >> thank you, michael. >> thank you, michael. >> despite mischievous >> despite his mischievous language, i just explain language, can i just explain what meant by acronym? what he meant by that acronym? >> it means who work >> it means people who work tuesdays, and tuesdays, wednesdays and thursdays . that's the acronym. thursdays. that's the acronym. we apologise if you had young we do apologise if you had young people listening. michael consider yourself told off. yeah, still come, cash yeah, right. still to come, cash payments for the first time yeah, right. still to come, cash pa a nents for the first time yeah, right. still to come, cash paa decade. for the first time yeah, right. still to come, cash paa decade. �*22.:he first time yeah, right. still to come, cash paa decade. �*22. wefirst time yeah, right. still to come, cash paa decade. �*22. we think me in a decade. in 22. we think that's for celebration. that's cause for celebration. >> remember, it's been our campaign news to get campaign here on gb news to get this issue debated in this whole issue debated in parliament because we know banks are cash are trying to get rid of cash with some conniving

radio. it's 1121. radio. it's1121. >> you're with gb news you're not. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. so cash payments rose for the first time in a decade in 2022. >> that's to according new figures from uk finance , figures from uk finance, britain's main financial services association. >> then, of course, we launched our own don't kill cash campaign here on the on gb news over 310,000 signatures. bev and others took it into number 10 because what we want is a proper

debate in the commons to protect the cash as legal tender because we know the banks want to get rid of it. joining us in the studio is very own liam studio is our very own liam halligan, our economics and business on the business editor with on the money . money. >> you see the papers are reporting this as that people are using cash because they're budgeting. but i think people are using cash because it's a political statement. i think there's a bit of a bit of both. >> i think there's a bit of both in that people certainly find certainly those on lower incomes with respect it easier to with respect find it easier to budget using if you've got budget using cash if you've got a full of cash, that's a jam jar full of cash, that's the cash you've got. it's so much easier to thoughtlessly just tap and spend. but these are interesting figures from uk finance . they're a complete finance. they're a complete reversal what seen. reversal of what we've seen. let's have a little look. i've got one of my have you got a graphic? of graphics graphic? one of my graphics here. so back in 2011, 21 odd billion cash payments were made in the uk by 2021, that was down to 5.7 billion. so you see the

big drop there. that is the emergence of debit cards, credit cards and all the rest of it. but in 2022, because the cost of living squeeze hit, it went up to 6.4 billion cash payments. so it's still well below where it was, but up a little bit. and dunng was, but up a little bit. and during that period, this is really key. the number of atms in this country. i looked up peaked in 2016 at just over 70,000. it's now only 50,000 and falling fast and falling very, very fast. now now, what's interesting is that we've had a number of organisation ins, some of whom have been working with gb news to try and promote our don't kill cash campaign, as you say. well over 300,000 signatures now. and this is from the federation small the federation of small businesses. now here's a statement them. they're statement from them. they're very, very powerful organisation. like cbi organisation. they like the cbi , but for firms and they , but for small firms and they have many , many members. this is have many, many members. this is from the federation of small businesses others which i'll businesses and others which i'll say they say, say now is the time, they say, for government, financial for the government, financial services, regulators and industry to come together to establish cash as a payment

method future , maintain method of the future, maintain payment for businesses payment choice for businesses and give consumers the diverse payments landscape they require. that's federation small that's the federation small business, the rural services network and petrol retailers association , association of association, association of convenience stores . a lot of convenience stores. a lot of industry bodies have come together because there are big power , much corporate power, much bigger corporate vested interests like the tech giants who want to monitor all our spending, like the big clearing banks who don't want to pay clearing banks who don't want to pay handling and like pay for cash handling and like big companies who know that small companies cash and small companies need cash and want to be banks, i don't want them to be banks, i don't think care any more about customers, is why they're customers, which is why they're closing so many cash machines. >> and we've got many older people simply would be lost people who simply would be lost without cash . without cash. >> absolutely. right now, the government says it is bringing in new laws. actually when we launched don't kill cash launched our don't kill cash campaign, little campaign, there was a little flurry regulations just a flurry of new regulations just a week after. i don't that week after. i don't know if that was coincidence, but the prime was a coincidence, but the prime minister i talked to the prime minister i talked to the prime minister when minister about this when i interviewed recently. new interviewed him recently. new laws to come in, so laws are set to come in, so banks have to provide customers

with free access to cash within three miles of their home. hmm. okay. that's what the spin is. but now we're hearing treasury officials talking about the vast majority of customers will have free access to cash. not everyone, three miles of their home. and of course, it's all about the remote cases. the more rural cases . yes. and i am rural cases. yes. and i am really concerned about even three miles is quite a long way i >> -- >> if you're an older person who doesn't have a car in a place where no public transport. yeah, i the rural areas there's i see in the rural areas there's no buses. that's right. it's a real problem. no buses. that's right. it's a reaiiproblem. no buses. that's right. it's a reaii do 3lem. no buses. that's right. it's a reaii do think i do think the >> i do think i do think the government is going to to government is going to have to say something about this. i do government is going to have to say s

for their tickets by cash rather than using complicated than using these complicated machines which fleece you. >> well, you know, andrew, in order get a debate in order to get a debate in parliament with public parliament with a public petition, you need 100,000 signatures. well, gb news viewers that of the park. knocked that out of the park. right. we've got times right. we've got three times that. i know people like that. and i know people like you, for all the sort you, me, chop for all the sort of people at gb news have of people at gb news that have got political got high level political contacts. we pushing for contacts. we are pushing for that debate and hopefully that will i completely will happen. and i completely agree on ticket agree with you. on ticket offices get train in from offices, i get a train in from i wouldn't rural britain, but wouldn't say rural britain, but it's about 40 miles away from london. most days. most days i see people at the ticket office asking questions, getting better deals for themselves and their family. often older people , the family. often older people, the ticket office staff are absolutely fabulous. i know half absolutely fabulous. i know half a dozen of them by name. they're consummate professionals . consummate professionals. they're not particularly well paid. but what a service they provide. >> and we can listen now to chris loder, the tory mp who initiated this debate in westminster hall yesterday. this is chris loder. >> here today actually to >> i'm here today actually to make the for case our station staffing hours to be maintained,

not just because we need these experienced and knowledgeable members of staff , experienced and knowledgeable members of staff, but to make sure that in this cost of living crisis, passengers can get the cheapest fare rather than relying on manipulative apps and onune relying on manipulative apps and online digital prices that overcharge them . the one person overcharge them. the one person that can be trusted to provide the cheapest fare is the ticket office clerk . office clerk. >> quite right. and of course, chris loder used to work on the trains. he's a great train man. >> he was a guy he started out as a guard on a train and he's become an mp and in that sense, you know, he's one of those old fashioned, you labour mps who come from a manual working background. yeah and in his case, he could be and should be a really powerful voice for the train industry in parliament. >> mark francois mp was in yesterday and straight yesterday and he came straight from debate and he said from that debate and he said there was support for there was no support for removing ticket offices . so

removing the ticket offices. so where's that pressure coming from? >> liam that pressure is coming from network the from network rail and the pressure is coming from the treasury treasury treasury because the treasury subsidises network rail to provide a train service. i mean , do you remember during covid, the network, we weren't allowed to go anywhere, but they were running ghost trains, running endless ghost trains, endless endless that endless, endless trains that were. do that? what were. why do they do that? what a waste of money. >> and the train drivers were neven >> and the train drivers were never, never lost any money at all. though on all. even though they were on flipping that's right. flipping strikes. that's right. talking to trains, hs2. liam now you the expert. you are the expert. you're almost it. i am almost an anorak about it. i am an anorak about it. that's why you're here to tell us just at what stage is now vulnerable and do you you think the main do you do you think the main stage were london to birmingham? >> that's stage one. yeah. birmingham to manchester via crewe . that's stage two. a and crewe. that's stage two. a and then birmingham to leeds is that stage two. be now as far as i'm understand it, stage to be was not scrapped then put on the shelf quite a few months and

years ago. unfortunately because leeds is a fantastic city and it desperately needs that connection on stage two, a remember making documents with andy burnham about this and i completely agree with the manchester mayor if you scrap birmingham to manchester, the main point of hs2 in its entire city disappears because you're only going to save ten 20 minutes. london to birmingham with hs2 at that stage of it. and it started out it was 27 billion was the estimate. we're now up way above 100 billion. it's a complete white elephant. it's a complete white elephant. it's out of control now . lots of it's out of control now. lots of work has gone on around euston . work has gone on around euston. some work gone on in some work has gone on in birmingham, where the station is going to though the station going to be, though the station there on an old post office there is on an old post office freight site. it's not even smack in the middle of birmingham. it's even birmingham. it's not even birmingham, station. birmingham. it's not even biryou;ham, station. birmingham. it's not even biryou have station. birmingham. it's not even biryou have to station. birmingham. it's not even biryou have to walk station. birmingham. it's not even biryou have to walk acrossation. so you have to walk across birmingham. so i think the whole thing been driven thing has basically been driven by powerful vested interests , by powerful vested interests, the engineering lobby and also

property developers who've bought up land along the line . bought up land along the line. >> andy burnham is going to be furious when he hears this news, the mayor of manchester, and rightly so, because this is whatever levelling up is , this whatever levelling up is, this is this is the opposite of it. >> the opposite. and let me just add my voice to yours, bev, because you are completely right. what we there's a scream ing need for what we call three hs1 was london down to the channel tunnel right ? high speed channel tunnel right? high speed train. is what we've just train. hs2 is what we've just been talking about. hs3 is the nickname all the nickname for liverpool. all the way across to newcastle. obviously via manchester sheffield and leeds. that would link together those great northern cities. you would have an urban conurbation , you would an urban conurbation, you would have an economy that would challenge london. yeah, right. but you'd have an economy that would challenged london with cheaper prices, better cheaper house prices, better living more open space. >> a lot of young people, all those university towns, all those university towns, all those manchester, leeds, newcastle , a lot of young people newcastle, a lot of young people would to that part the world. >> they would ease and

rebalance, are ridiculously lopsided. >> and the money they save from hs2 to if they invested it in those cross country rail links would be transformative. would be transform ative. >> would be transformative. >> it would be transformative , >> it would be transformative, genuinely levelling up. and that would be genuinely levelling up. but it's not just that. one of the documentaries i once made, andrew, it was all about how you can a slither of the can take just a slither of the money hs2 and use it money from hs2 and use it particular pinch points in the network, smaller projects, tens of millions , maybe low hundreds of millions, maybe low hundreds of millions, maybe low hundreds of millions, maybe low hundreds of millions like across manchester. i mean, everyone in manchester. i mean, everyone in manchester will know what i'm about to say. this thing called the corridor. it's the castlefield corridor. it's where whole of the british where the whole of the british rail north—west system rail, north—west to east system goes across one bridge in the middle of manchester, and it's one line in either direction . one line in either direction. and the fact that they won't widen that is just a nightmare. and the department of transport is given, promised money to widen that many, many times. and they've never quite delivered. there's leadburn junction, also, where famous great train where the famous great train robber , a photograph was taken . robber, a photograph was taken. you know the footage if you

eased up leadburn junction, mate, that would that would unpick a lot of pinch points as well. if you electrify trains in the north, 80% of train journeys in the north are on diesel trains. right diesel trains are slower. they can't accelerate, which means you have fewer of them, which means you have less frequent, more crowded trains as all commuters into big northern cities on the train know well. >> that is our resident trainspotter liam halligan , who trainspotter liam halligan, who wear an anorak. >> next time you do the trains because you do it so well. >> all right. from trains to trans, more schools are crying out for guidance on that very controversial issue . sam lister controversial issue. sam lister and carol miller will be here to give your give. us their give us your give. give us their thoughts. though, here's thoughts. first, though, here's rhiannon with with the . news >> good morning . it's coming news >> good morning. it's coming up to 1133. your top stories from the newsroom . i'm three met the newsroom. i'm three met police officers will face a misconduct hearing for their

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>> well, it seems to be the year of the shoplifter, doesn't it? we're joined by carole malone. she's not a shoplifter, political editor of the daily express, lister. express, sam lister. >> she's in shops a lot. >> she's in shops a lot. >> i'm in shops. i know a lot of you a shopaholic. i am a bit you are a shopaholic. i am a bit of a shopper. sam i were of a shopper. sam and i were just about that actually. >> honestly, it's time you >> honestly, it's every time you turn like a bit of turn on, i like a bit of shopping every open shopping every time you open a papen shopping every time you open a paper. at the moment or look at your social media, there's footage people nicking stuff footage of people nicking stuff from shops. the one, sam, from shops. the latest one, sam, is a person that just is this is a person that just walked into a shop, taken out 3—3 and just walks 3—3 cases of beer and just walks out. it with out. they're doing it with impunity. how? why >> and i think there >> this is it. and i think there seems a bit of a kind of seems to be a bit of a kind of narrative at the start of all this which has been this crisis, which has been going on for about a year now, that was do with, you that it was to do with, you know, covid and the cost of living crisis. and people were poorer and were desperate. poorer and they were desperate. but actually, it's really but actually, it's not really that just, that it's about people now just, you just feel they you know, they just feel they just dishonest and actually, also, get gangs now also, you get these gangs now who and clear out jd who just go in and clear out jd sports or whatever, and why would shopkeeper on minimum

would a shopkeeper on minimum wage risk to wage put themselves at risk to stop anybody stealing something so a problem. it's so so it's a huge problem. it's so sad . sad. >> i think it's such a tragedy. carol, it's carol, don't you? it's degenerate generation. it really is. >> there's a story in the papers today about a guy in a shop and he he was trying to stop this woman walking out with this is one in peckham in south london. yeah. >> so we showed this yesterday . >> so we showed this yesterday. >> so we showed this yesterday. >> there's a photograph of him with her in a in a like a headlock. wouldn't you look at the video. it's not like that at all. what happens is she tries to get some money back. he won't return because she's clearly used the products. she says, well, i'm just going to tape. so she shelf to try and she goes to the shelf to try and take the equivalent products thing. to her, you can't thing. he says to her, you can't do that. gets a plastic do that. she gets a plastic shopping basket she him shopping basket and she hits him across it. he across the head with it. he restrains her from behind, which is he can do. she starts is all he can do. she starts kicking him. i mean, ijust watched this really vicious kicking and whatever. and kicking him and whatever. and then in an attempt was to his arm was around here. now that guy, now he's had to take his

kids school. he's had to kids out of school. he's had to close shop. yeah. now close his shop. yeah. now because a mob to the shop because a mob went to the shop to protest. went to the to to protest. went to the shop to threaten. they're saying to protest. went to the shop to threracism. they're saying to protest. went to the shop to thre racism. and 1ey're saying to protest. went to the shop to threracism. and thene saying to protest. went to the shop to thre racism. and then you've| it's racism. and then you've got, of course, the campaign group saying this is typical of violence group saying this is typical of vi but how can it be racist? he's an asian shopkeeper. she's a black woman. what's racist about a black woman. what's racist abou mean, people always took >> i mean, people always took that and the that racism argument and the violence she was violence against women. she was the violent. first the one who was violent. first of i don't what the of all, i don't know what the quy's of all, i don't know what the guy's to do. however, i guy's supposed to do. however, i listen to a documentary recently and listened to of and i and i listened to lots of the big security people in stores, and they said there are instructions. now, you to instructions. now, you used to have security have the big burly security guard in the uniform there, instructions from the shop owners in, don't owners are, don't go in, don't get hurt , let them take. so now get hurt, let them take. so now this message is filtered down and so they're taking what they're like. and a lot of people going nicking people are going in and nicking to they go in in the to order. so they go in in the nick six legs alarm and ten fillet steaks and they go and sell them to the local butcher. so are in. sam so you know, people are in. sam says it's not about cost of living it's about people

living crisis, it's about people doing it because they can. >> this guy can't go back to his shop now. that's it. shop now. sam no, that's it. >> you know, this poor man. you know, a nation of know, we are a nation of shopkeepers. we supposedly know, we are a nation of sh0jwho's rs. we supposedly know, we are a nation of sh0jwho's actually supposedly know, we are a nation of sh0jwho's actually looking sedly know, we are a nation of sh0jwho's actually looking after and who's actually looking after the people go out there, get the people who go out there, get up early, actually make up early, actually try and make a are, you know, a living. these are, you know, sole traders, you know, lone sole traders, you know, lone sole traders, you know, lone sole traders, small business owners, just trying to earn a living. are getting no living. and they are getting no protection police. protection from the police. >> they do it in >> but even if they do it in supermarkets, sam supermarkets makes money actually, makes lots of money actually, that to be passed that still is going to be passed on every shopper, all of us, on to every shopper, all of us, because it's going to because it's reducing their profit margins. >> this the thing you >> and this is the thing you know, and actually, you know, there this thing there used to be this thing about ten, 15 years ago in america didn't that crack down on crime that was on the small crime that was giuliani new york. giuliani in new york. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and actually, you know, we don't to doing that in don't seem to be doing that in this country. and this only this country. and this will only get are all get worse. and we are all footing the bill for it. >> i think that bloke who intervened to protect his shop is a hero. so do i. and i think we should be supporting. >> when you >> yeah. the thing is, when you restrain who was restrain someone who was struggling, know your arm is

struggling, you know your arm is going to go places, maybe it shouldn't but the woman shouldn't go, but the woman shouldn't. she was just going to help herself to his goods because she believes that she can are can and she believes there are no consequences. >> his name is social sindo. he's his shop today he's 45. he's his his shop today has shut us down. it is has to shut us down. it is absolutely covered in posters from saying, after from people saying, look after black have done this black women. you have done this to black community. spoke to the black community. we spoke to the black community. we spoke to stephen pound about this yesterday said it's yesterday and he said it's pretty a monoculture for pretty much a monoculture for that peckham. and that area of peckham. now and this gentleman whose shop owner has some people have said has said some people have said that it might have been racial, because i'm pakistani, she's a black says this is black lady. he says this is absolutely the truth. i want absolutely not the truth. i want you to know that 99% of my customers people of colour. customers are people of colour. they family. i don't they are like my family. i don't know being racist means. know what being racist means. i live in a multicultural live and work in a multicultural place. i'm happy here so are place. i'm happy here and so are my and it's like my family. and it's a bit like we see everything through the lens of race now and identity that divisive. that it's become so divisive. sam everybody tribal at a sam everybody gets tribal at a time go back to time like this. they go back to their corner this isn't their corner and this isn't about is just about crime. >> protecting his business. and actually, when you look at the

video at the beginning of the video, i mean, he's like this. he's he doesn't want the he doesn't the trouble. and doesn't want the trouble. and you he's dragged the you know, he's dragged into the trouble. man trying trouble. he's a man just trying to living, being dragged to earn a living, being dragged into this. >> these little they're >> these little shops, they're their a community, their lifeblood of a community, aren't they? they're open all hours. >> and, you know, we have seven days >> and, you know, we have seven dayshame on the campaign owners >> shame on the campaign owners who are who are using this. >> saying violence >> and saying this is violence against women violence against women and violence against women and violence against black women particularly. not. particularly. and no, it is not. this to going steal. this woman was to going steal. she into this she was going to walk into this shop and steal his. here we go. >> here's the footage. we're watching the footage now. so he tries restrain she tries to restrain her. she smacks head. smacks him in the head. apparently, he cut above apparently, he has a cut above his from where she smacked his eye from where she smacked him in response. he does a him in response. he does take a bite around neck. there's bite around the neck. there's the she's him, the kick. she's kicking him, which the which you would because it's the sort of another kick. it's a response to when hit, you response to when you're hit, you hit right. the violence. response to when you're hit, you hit so right. the violence. response to when you're hit, you hit so he's|ht. the violence. response to when you're hit, you hit so he's tryinge violence. response to when you're hit, you hit so he's trying and lence. response to when you're hit, you hit so he's trying and then. response to when you're hit, you hit so he's trying and then she and so he's trying and then she she kick him. i hope she proceeds to kick him. i hope she's been arrested. >> no, he has. he's been he's been taken to police station and he's cautioned he'll be he's been cautioned or he'll be done assault. of course he done for assault. of course he will his own

will for protecting his own business own livelihood. business and his own livelihood. but all shops have start but all shops have to start taking like the you taking action now. like the you know, kid and you know, when i was a kid and you saw bloke in the uniform. saw that bloke in the uniform. yeah. you did steal yeah. you did not steal anything. remember i used anything. and i remember i used to i fancied once i might steal some sweets from wilko was some sweets from wilko and i was about thought i might just about 15. i thought i might just have if i could get some have it, see if i could get some pick and mix. that guy was on me. he could see. he could see me. he could see. he could see me working. and was me brain working. and i was terrified. thought my god, he terrified. i thought my god, he will to the police will take me to the police station. will take me to the police statyou that wasn't last week? >> no, it wasn't last week. >> no, it wasn't last week. >> know what? actually, you >> you know what? actually, you just me carol, just made me think, carol, because it is. it will come down to carol. >> that's exactly why. will god do you know the pick do it, nick, you know the pick and mix. >> it's also just shows that this that security this idea that security cameras will stop crime, they don't human don't human beings stop crime, don't actually when the security actually even when the security camera recorded footage, camera has recorded the footage, they do anything with it. they don't do anything with it. >> it happens. the >> they don't it happens. the police anything about it. >> but i was it. say it me >> but i was gonna say it is the cops because what they cops fault because what they will say that there's will say is, was that there's a rule now, isn't it? the cops will not come out unless they've stolen will not come out unless they've sto|£200? did that figure come

>> where did that figure come from? >> t- t“ w“ >> well, i think was the cops made figure. but it's made that figure. but it's arbitrary, isn't it? >> awful thing is as >> and the awful thing is as well, will insurance well, it will be the insurance companies that are paying out the will we the insurance will go up and we will can we just will all suffer. can we just have one quick word scotland have one quick word on scotland fans god queen. fans booing god save the queen. sam fans booing god save the queen. sarthe king. >> the king. >> the king. >> the king king. say god >> save the king king. say god save the queen. >> yeah. who's, of course, >> yeah, yeah. who's, of course, the the of the duke. who's the king of rothesay up there? rothesay when he's up there? >> the duke of rothesay. >> the duke of rothesay. >> mccoist, >> yeah, but ally mccoist, former pundit, former footballer and pundit, famous the only former footballer and pundit, familis the only former footballer and pundit, familis i'm the only former footballer and pundit, familis i'm to 1e only one i know. i'm going to confess. but he says it's down to he says it's a to snp fans. he says it's a politically motivated thing. oh, hello. >> eh f is when we beat them >> oh, this is when we beat them at football the other night. >> yeah, think we actually >> yeah, i think we actually think booed we beat think they booed before we beat them started game. them before we started the game. but you it's a but i think, you know, it's a sad state of affairs if you get into politically motivated boots, these kind of events. i mean, and personally, mean, you know, and personally, i'm massively sports, i'm not massively into sports, but be but i do think sport should be just not about just about sports, not about politics. yeah, yeah. let's keep the politics of sport. politics. yeah, yeah. let's keep the good cs of sport. politics. yeah, yeah. let's keep the good cs 0 mccoist. >> good for a&e mccoist. >> good for a&e mccoist. >> but you know, >> yeah, but he's, you know, he's saying a brit, and he's saying i'm a brit, and i believe that. >> do think a >> do you think it's a republican it republican thing? carol is it anti royal? >> oh, i think it's yeah. i

think it's the are think it's the snp are definitely anti but alan cochrane piece in definitely anti but alan cocitelegraph piece in definitely anti but alan cocitelegraph talked)iece in definitely anti but alan cocitelegraph talked ally in definitely anti but alan cocitele hey h talked ally in definitely anti but alan cocitele hey cochrane ked ally in definitely anti but alan cocitele hey cochrane isd ally in definitely anti but alan cocitele hey cochrane is saying n mccoist hey cochrane is saying we should have separate we should have a separate national anthem. no, we shouldn't. i mean he's talking about scotland, as about for scotland, for us as well. should sing god save well. we should sing god save the should actually the king. we should actually say scotland's got flower of scotland, got scotland, ireland's got ireland's call. don't know ireland's call. i don't know what but no, if we want what that is, but no, if we want to sing god the king, there is. >> there is one verse in the national which is pretty anti—scottish. >> yeah, there is. well, we have to now. to sing now. >> is the theme tune >> sing. that is the theme tune because go. we're because we have to go. we're done. carole malone, done. sam lister, carole malone, thank here's your thank you so much. here's your latest forecast. the is latest weather forecast. the is rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello again low pressure's bnng >> hello again low pressure's bring some blustery windy weather across northern parts whilst in the south we have some warm air across us with a bit of rain in between . that's because rain in between. that's because we have this front lying across us. you can see it trying to push a little bit further southwards but southwards through today. but not making much progress as a result. going to be quite

result. it is going to be quite a cloudy, picture across the a cloudy, wet picture across the central slice of uk, central slice of the uk, a central slice of the uk, a central parts of england and into wales. some heavy bursts over welsh mountains to the over the welsh mountains to the south this we're seeing quite south of this we're seeing quite a good deal of sunshine and with that warm air i mentioned, temperatures a little above temperatures a little bit above average time of year, average for the time of year, perhaps a touch higher than yesterday. highs around or yesterday. highs around 24 or 25 celsius north celsius cooler. further north and still with the risk of and windy still with the risk of some coastal gales and 1 or 2 showers dotted around parts of scotland and northern ireland. perhaps the end the perhaps through the end of the day rain is day, this band of rain is gradually going to push its way northwards into more northern parts england, northern parts of england, northern ireland southern scotland. ireland and southern scotland. the the will the winds in the north will gradually ease , gradually start to ease, clearing away, staying clearing away, but staying blustery for orkney and shetland, may be a shetland, temperatures may be a touch down to last night for some could get into some places. could get into single figures across some southern parts which southern parts, which is markedly than recent markedly cooler than recent nights through friday morning. then this front not going anywhere, fast. so anywhere, particularly fast. so staying and wet across staying cloudy and wet across parts northern ireland, parts of northern ireland, southern scotland the southern scotland and the far north england. few showers north of england. a few showers across meanwhile,

across the far north. meanwhile, across the far north. meanwhile, across central southern parts of england lots of fine england and wales, lots of fine sunny to be and sunny weather to be had and temperatures touch temperatures perhaps a touch higher for some by by higher than today for some by by the temperatures rising on boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> what a thrill patrick christys has joined us in the studio to tell us what you've got coming up on your show. this is nice. patrick >> and you've got a scoop, haven't you? >> got scoop. it's >> i've got a scoop. yes, it's a big you having big scoop. thank you for having me way. pleasure. so me on, by the way. pleasure. so i went to ealing because somebody contacted me to say that in shipping that they'd been put in shipping containers. right. labour containers. right. so labour council, putting council, they've been putting legal immigrants and british nationals in shipping containers are supposedly temporary accommodation and they've now been they're basically permanently and that the conditions ins are not fit for human habitation. >> how many go about 60 people. >> how many go about 60 people. >> and i'm showing you some pictures now. oh, my. so there's this is a of an individual who

was pushed off off the top of one of these shipping containers by some drug dealers who live at the top. she was dead for a while. they had to resuscitate her. oh, we've got children looking at all of this, right? so children looking at all so children are looking at all of the shipping of this. the shipping containers. can bit in containers. you can see a bit in the background. obviously the background. i've obviously got loads of footage and interviews be doing at got loads of footage and intenpm.; be doing at got loads of footage and intenpm. i be doing at got loads of footage and intenpm. i think be doing at got loads of footage and intenpm. i think we'veioing at got loads of footage and intenpm. i think we've got] at got loads of footage and intenpm. i think we've got some 3:00 pm. i think we've got some more stuff. this is drug users sleeping in the laundry room, so . families use this . so families have to use this laundry which also laundry room, which they also obviously for. obviously have to pay for. they've users living they've got drug users living and sleeping there and performing acts in there. performing sex acts in there. right. and this is these are the bugs inside one of the shipping containers over while people are being forced to live with cockroaches. i don't honestly really remember the last time i saw a cockroach in the uk. but apart from this bugs coming out of everywhere and showers of everywhere and the showers don't they're having to don't work, they're having to use these are british use buckets. these are british taxpayers, right? and if these were the conditions , this is the were the conditions, this is the police raid. >> is this because of because of a lack of council houses ? this a lack of council houses? this is alternative accommodation. so

this what they're saying, right? >> so these are vulnerable people who are say, on the run from domestic abuse. with from domestic abuse. right. with young are people young children. there are people who maybe one of them, her actual own home burnt down, not through her own fault. she's ended this situation an ended up in this situation an and overarching point is and my overarching point is this, which is that if we were putting channel migrants in conditions like this , it would conditions like this, it would kick off where are the human rights lawyers? where are the local mps and the local council? more on them later, the way. more on them later, by the way. and also, where's the where's the brigade ? the human rights brigade? where's outrage? we've got where's the outrage? we've got british citizens living like this. getting ill. this. people are getting ill. you've got rampant drug abuse. >> seekers >> they were asylum seekers or asylum they'd be asylum seekers. they'd be crawling over it. crawling all over it. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> lawyers. >> human rights lawyers. >> human rights lawyers. >> absolutely. it. in >> absolutely. all over it. in a labour council, by the way, it is that labour council prides itself home as is that labour council prides itself one home as is that labour council prides itself one of home as is that labour council prides itself one of the he as is that labour council prides itself one of the most as is that labour council prides itself one of the most welcoming being one of the most welcoming places for and asylum places for refugees and asylum seekers. oh, the local mps, laboun seekers. oh, the local mps, labour, local mps. and, labour, all the local mps. and, andifs labour, all the local mps. and, and it's absolutely not and it's absolutely it is not fit for human habitation. so a couple of things i want to get better accommodation for these people and

better accommodation for these pec also and better accommodation for these pec also want and better accommodation for these pec also want to and better accommodation for these pec also want to make and better accommodation for these pecalso want to make a and better accommodation for these pecalso want to make a pointi we also want to make a point really, is that we have really, which is that we have british citizens living like this told this and they are told there isn't for them to isn't enough housing for them to move them. >> so you've been there. i've been there. and you've got a video that you're going show been there. and you've got a vidyouriat you're going show been there. and you've got a vidyouriat yorthisgoing show been there. and you've got a vidyouriaty01this afternoon. ow on your show this afternoon. >> we're going to be >> yeah, we're going to be playing from 3:00 pm today. playing that from 3:00 pm today. >> terrific and playing that from 3:00 pm today. >always terrific and playing that from 3:00 pm today. >always think rrific and playing that from 3:00 pm today. >always think about and playing that from 3:00 pm today. >always think about these ind i always think about these housing these housing people who make these decisions for decisions go and live there for a night before you put people through this sort of experience. they wouldn't. and they wouldn't. those wouldn't. no, no, no. and those cockroaches, vile, absolutely disgusting coming out disgusting sewage coming out from the toilets. >> it is it is unfit for human habitation. >> and no doubt you will have something to say as well. on keir starmers suggestion today that agreement that we have a little agreement with it's hardly a with the eu. well, it's hardly a shock, is it? >> keir starmer was mr >> i mean, keir starmer was mr remain time he remain for was at a time he still there is some truth still is. there is some truth i think, to what rishi sunak does say, which is that you maybe can't trust word this can't really trust a word this guy it be interesting can't really trust a word this guy he it be interesting can't really trust a word this guy he has be interesting can't really trust a word this guy he has his be interesting can't really trust a word this guy he has his meeting sting can't really trust a word this guy he has his meeting with when he has his meeting with macron. mean, you macron. you know, i mean, you can a lot by this if the can tell a lot by this if the european leaders are really up for starmer government, for a keir starmer government, doesn't you everything doesn't that tell you everything you know? you need to know? >> it tells you everything you

need know. they're need to know. they're meeting him now before he's even. >> going to >> and he's basically going to say illegal migrants will be legal. under starmer. >> are going house them? >> are you going to house them? >> are you going to house them? >> keir yeah, we can move. patrick christie here at three, right? >> f— >> that is it for britain's newsroom . up next, it's newsroom today. up next, it's the live desk with mark longhurst and pip tomson. pip is to us what she's going to here tell us what she's going to here tell us what she's going to what's to be talking about. what's coming up today, hello there. >> will also be chatting >> we will also be chatting about keir starmer because he does a strong setting does seem to be a strong setting on world stage over the next on the world stage over the next few days, meeting president macron and then meeting justin trudeau as well. we also are going barking mad at westminster and we're not talking about the mps . and we're not talking about the mp5 . it and we're not talking about the mps . it is the westminster dog mps. it is the westminster dog of the year show. so that and so much more to bring you as well. plus will bluebird make it home? the crowdfunding legal battle turned donald campbell's iconic record breaking boat to a spiritual home on coniston water. that and much more coming up on the live desk from midday

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