why not? you tell why not.7 you tell me . and the why not.7 you tell me. and the next wave of 20 mile an hour zones is set to be rolled out. i chuckle because, i mean, i'm sure you can go faster than that on some pushbikes and electric scooters. but anyway. is this a war on mercury or just basic common sense? should 20 miles an hour a default speed limit hour be a default speed limit across the country? and shoplifting ? let's face it, we shoplifting? let's face it, we all know out of control all all know it's out of control all around, though, as broken out as to is causing it. is it to what's is causing it. is it desperate people pushed to the bnnk desperate people pushed to the brink a cost of living brink by a cost of living crisis? oh, quite frankly , is it crisis? oh, quite frankly, is it just bunch chancers who just a bunch of chancers who just a bunch of chancers who just massive just got such a massive disregard for the law? they think, frankly, can think, quite frankly, they can do whatever they want. you tell me. and over in peckham in london, shopkeeper is in london, a shopkeeper is in hiding. he says he's being worried for his life. he's separated from his wife. he's having to take his kids out of school and probably will never

be able to open his shop again. why? well, because a mob have decided he is racist . decided that he is a racist. really? well, have all of that to come. but first, we'll get the news headlines as . michelle. >> thank you. good evening . >> thank you. good evening. will. the top story tonight, is that around i in 7 brits are waiting for routine treatment from the nhs in england , new from the nhs in england, new figures show 7.68 million people are currently on the waiting list. and there's also been a rise in longer waits of a year or more . earlier, the government or more. earlier, the government announced the nhs will be receiving £200 million to help them with the coming winter. but labour says that money is a sticking plaster . the prime sticking plaster. the prime minister says the government is trying to improve waiting times. >> winters always a challenging time for the nhs and this year we started planning for winter earlier than ever before. today we're announcing £200 million,

which will go to the nhs to help build extra capacity and resilience for this winter season , making sure that season, making sure that patients can get the care that they earlier this year, we they need. earlier this year, we also announced the long term workforce plan, making sure that for the first time we train more doctors nurses and dentists doctors and nurses and dentists here in the uk, but also the work we're doing to improve nhs performance , which the results performance, which the results today show is delivering for patients big improvements patients with big improvements in ambulance times and a&e times since the winter . since the winter. >> sir keir starmer has said today he'll seek an eu wide returns agreement for those who cross the english channel and come to the uk illegally. the labour leader says the deal may involve a quid pro quo approach to accepting migrants from the eu . sir keir and the shadow home eu. sir keir and the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , were secretary, yvette cooper, were meeting with the eu's policing body europol in the hague. this morning. the shadow cabinet minister nick thomas—symonds, told gb news earlier. labour do

want to bring down net migration when there are countries now where the government could be fast tracking people through the asylum system so that they can be deported or they can be doing that now instead . that now instead. >> and we have a backlog in the asylum system of over 107,000 and people . that is a lack of and people. that is a lack of control role. that's what this government is presiding over. and frankly , after 13 years, and frankly, after 13 years, they ought to be sorting it out i >> -- >> but immigration minister robert jenrick says labour's plan won't stop the small boats crisis as well. >> i think the mask slipped today. we saw what would happen if there was a labour government and that is that they would wave in tens of thousands of illegal migrants from a place of safety in europe if their plan to share the burden of european countries went ahead over 100,000 thousand

illegal migrants would come to the uk . and the worst thing is the uk. and the worst thing is it wouldn't even stop the boats i >> -- >> the personal details of greater manchester police officers have been hacked in a cyber attack. details such as identity badges and warrant cards, including names and photographs , are all thought to photographs, are all thought to have been stolen . the force says have been stolen. the force says it's aware of the attack and are treating it very seriously. but it's not believed the data breach included any financial information . meanwhile, three information. meanwhile, three met officers will face a misconduct hearing for their role in the strip search of a minor. the incident took place at a school in hackney in 2020. it's alleged the three officers didn't follow procedure there and they discriminated against the child due to race and genden the child due to race and gender. the met says the incident shouldn't have happened . house prices declined in august at their fastest rate since 2009. that's according to the royal institution of chartered surveyors . it says a chartered surveyors. it says a majority of property

professionals are now reporting declines, largely due to high mortgage rates. new buyer enquiries also continued to fall. but rents continue to rise and finally, the westminster dog of the year award has been presented to mims davies and her dog tj. but it was rosie duffield and her cavalier king charles spaniel paco, who picked up the sir david amess public vote award in memory of the late conservative mp sir david was a staunch advocate of the competition ban and a tireless campaigner for dog welfare . you campaigner for dog welfare. you with gb news across the uk on your tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news . by saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel thank you for that, polly. >> westminster top dog. i think, quite frankly , the less that i

quite frankly, the less that i say about dogs, the better. but i've learnt my lesson. let's move on. i am michelle dewberry and i'm with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me. a new face. we like those, don't we? broadcast author and journalist michael crick . welcome. thank michael crick. welcome. thank you. you're not new to gb you. well you're not new to gb news, but you are very new to this programme for the first time. >> in fact. yes. first time. and, well, i'll see how it goes. it's an honour to be with you. >> i was going to say, if he's not gentle, if he's much, not gentle, if he's too much, you can't kick him. your legs are not that long. in the are not that long. i'm in the middle alongside him. we've got former brexit party mep and gb news daubney . news presenter martin daubney. welcome pleasure. and welcome to you. pleasure. and you the drill, you? you know the drill, don't you? on programme? it is very on this programme? it is very much about you guys at home. what is your mind tonight? what is on your mind tonight? vaiews@gbnews.com or you can tweet me at gb news. i've got it all going on tonight. 20 miles an hour. speed limits. are you a fan things or not? also fan of those things or not? also as well, peckham london. obviously you're all familiar with what's gone on by now. unless you've been asleep for the last 48 hours or wasn't

watching jubes last night, the shopkeeper pretty shopkeeper there, he is pretty much go into hiding much had to go into hiding school , school, children. now school, school, children. now his kids being taken out of school . his shop absolutely school. his shop absolutely closed . whether or not he can closed. whether or not he can openit closed. whether or not he can open it again , your guess is as open it again, your guess is as good as mine. but i worry perhaps not. so what do you make of all of this? it's just been announced as a racist like done deal announced as a racist like done deal. that's what he is apparently, according to many people out anyway, we'll people out there anyway, we'll be someone who be talking to someone who supports those protesters . do supports those protesters. do you get in touch and let me know your thoughts on that one. that's coming up before the end of the programme. but for now, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has that the starmer, he has claimed that the party will seek to strike retains deal basically with the eu when it comes to tackling the small crisis. he's talking small boats crisis. he's talking tough as well because it's not just about eu returns deals. he says he's going to basically treat people traffickers treat the people traffickers like i quote , terrorists. he like i quote, terrorists. he says he would freeze assets and restrict their movements and all the rest of it. there's been

lots of concerns, though, martin, for a few different levels. some people saying, hey, this is just about keir starmer showing his overall ambition is to bring us closer to the eu, perhaps to take us back. other people saying hang on just people saying, hang on just a nanosecond, the eu are not going to deals with out of the to do deals with us out of the goodness their if goodness of their hearts. so if you're going returning you're going to be returning people, there's going to be an awful lot of people coming this way well. what do you make of way as well. what do you make of it well, keir starmer was the >> well, keir starmer was the architect people's vote architect of the people's vote to reverse brexit. that his to reverse brexit. that was his modus for three years. modus operandi for three years. he's a rejoiner disguise. and he's a rejoiner in disguise. and today slipped. this today the mask has slipped. this this is back door open this deal is back door open borders . it's as simple as that. borders. it's as simple as that. if bow to brussels and do if you bow to brussels and do a deal brussels , a return deal with brussels, a return deal deal with brussels, a return deal, then it's pretty quotquot one in, one out, and is it? >> how do you know that? >> how do you know that? >> because that's the way that macron has always said if britain wants to negotiate in terms returns to the eu bloc terms of returns to the eu bloc from britain, as in send them back france, must do back to france, then we must do a directly with brussels a deal directly with brussels and not with france directly. and eye—watering and the numbers are eye—watering

and to be a minimum and it's going to be a minimum of 30,000, potentially 100,000. we take because the we must take because the illegals come into the eu illegals that come into the eu bloc via the mediterranean, via greece , we've seen there's been greece, we've seen there's been there's been 7000 arrive in 48 hours in one italia island alone . we must take as a member state. remember we voted to leave 12% of that total. what is the total deal? well, we don't know. it's an elastic total. but this deal would sign up to that. i think this is a terrible deal for britain and it underlines the fact that we weren't sure where starmer stood. now we know and he's more interested in davos. macron interpol, and now cosying up to brussels. this confirms everything the conspiracy theorists said, and thatis conspiracy theorists said, and that is starmer is basically a rejoiner in disguise. this is a terrible deal for britain . terrible deal for britain. >> do you agree? >> do you agree? >> well, i think it's worth a try. i think everything is worth a try because the government has failed abysmally to do anything about this . and i suspect

about this. and i suspect a labour government will fail abysmally do about it. abysmally to do much about it. but i think we've got to try every option and i'm quite willing to go ahead with trying barges rwanda , they don't barges and rwanda, they don't seem working far and seem to be working so far and they only numbers they are only tiny numbers anyway in starmer's case, at least he is liked within the eu because everybody knows he's a remainer as martin says, and he may be able to get a better deal than anything the government can can do. but i think we have to accept that tens of thousands of people coming , will be people are coming, will be coming to this country , be it in coming to this country, be it in boats or through through other means, because the means, simply because the pressures from africa and the middle east are so great. and let's be honest about this. if you lived in afghanistan or somalia or libya and you were ambitious and energetic like you both are , you too would be both are, you too would be coming on that route. as michael heseltine said in his speech the other day, and so would i. we've just got to get used to it and absorb it. and global warming of course, is not going to help because make much because it's going to make much of equatorial area between

of the equatorial area between the tropics. unbear able to live in. i want a better life. >> i would want a better life. you're absolutely right. who wouldn't? if anyone looks in the mirror and answers honestly, wouldn't? if anyone looks in the mirror you answers honestly, wouldn't? if anyone looks in the mirror you want ers honestly, wouldn't? if anyone looks in the mirror you want the honestly, wouldn't? if anyone looks in the mirror you want the best stly, would you want the best conditions life? conditions for your life? anyone that no, either a bit that says no, he's either a bit daft or they rely yes. so yes, i agree. everyone wants the best conditions, but surely then it's for the uk determine for the uk to determine well what's for those what's on offer then for those people because you're going to pick and is that people pick and choose is that people are menu. are like a la carte menu. they're sitting there and going, are like a la carte menu. they'r> yeah, think it's an >> yeah, i think it's an interesting question as to why they come here. i think interesting question as to why thejpartly come here. i think interesting question as to why thejpartly the :ome here. i think interesting question as to why thejpartly the language i think interesting question as to why thejpartly the language .i think it's partly the language. engushis it's partly the language. english is a much more universal language. >> michael sorry, that didn't wash with me because if the if everyone spoke english, why on earth do we spend so much money with translators then? >> maybe when they arrive >> well, maybe when they arrive here, they pretend not to speak english. they do disguise where they from. but mean, they come from. but i mean, that's one. that's one. i think the we don't have identity

the fact we don't have identity cards doesn't help. and i would i favour of i would be in favour of introducing cards, but introducing identity cards, but i have some kind i think we have to do some kind of if we just try do it of deal if we just try and do it on own, we're not going to on our own, we're not going to make any progress. >> where they get their id >> where would they get their id card well, mean i don't card from? well, i mean i don't mean passport id cards card from? well, i mean i don't methe passport id cards card from? well, i mean i don't methe migrants. sport id cards for the migrants. >> i mean, there are id cards for the existing population. it would be it would be less attractive to come to this country than those countries which already have id cards. okay. >> so there's a reason that these people are living under tarpaulins in calais and then in a four star hotel in britain, there's a reason they get free health care on the nhs and they don't get any of that in france. it's a preferable nation. now, if you say that that it's our duty to house and home anybody in the world that wants a better life, let's just do away with passports, away borders passports, do away with borders . you know, let's we'll choose britain because we clearly, clearly clearly we clearly we clearly we clearly we clearly we cannot say everybody is welcome. >> but i think we have to accept that it's going to happen unless

you're going to have machine gun posts around the coastline of australia, though, with this, that they stopped the boats because they had a robust joined up they stuck to it up policy and they stuck to it and it won general elections. >> now, one thing i do agree. >> now, one thing i do agree. >> all right, well, but they did it by shipping people off to other people have other countries. people have tried only tried that here. and the only one they've come up with is rwanda, appalling rwanda, which has an appalling human . and people human rights record. and people will escaping from rwanda and will be escaping from rwanda and making their way back here. >> i thought i thought it was only the other day that rwandan tourist board was sponsoring what was that football club? i don't know if they're still do it. >> what is it? arsenal >> what is it? arsenal >> i mean, it's not exactly like some weird third world torture chamber, is it? >> well, it has. it chamber, is it? >> well, it has . it does treat >> well, it has. it does treat dissidents pretty badly. does rwanda and after all, many of these people come here because of political , uh, human rights of political, uh, human rights abuses. let me ask where they come from. let me ask you question. >> i can't i mean, ijust question. >> i can't i mean, i just want >> i can't i mean, ijust want to keep responding to you, but

i've got to pack it in. then just say that last sentence about appalling human rights abuse. been abused abuse. what have you been abused that badly? why would you leave your kids and your your wife, your kids and your sister all rest of it sister and all the rest of it behind? anyway. behind? but anyway. >> the idea presumably is >> well, the idea presumably is that will them in that they will bring them in eventually to. of course they will. >> you e.- e.— e keir starmer some >> do you give keir starmer some credit, though, because one of the other we've we've the other angles we've we've just spoken about returns things but angle this but the other angle about this is to get is he reckons he's going to get on top of the people traffickers. he's saying about right. to designate right. we're going to designate them going them as terrorists. we're going to assets and all to seize their assets and all the idea or not? >> well, it's inoperable. it won't work. >> do you know? >> do you know? >> well, because says >> well, because he says we'll do the same as we do with drug dealers. well, show how the dealers. well, show me how the war drugs is being won in war on drugs is being won in britain. been britain. anywhere it's been worsened by by by letting loads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians by by letting loads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians in by letting loads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians in who etting loads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians in who nowg loads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians in who now runads britain. anywhere it's been wcalbanians in who now run the of albanians in who now run the cocaine in london and cocaine racket in london and taken over major cities that's been allowed this open been allowed by this open borders policy. the notion that we can stop terrorists, immigrants by treating them like terrorists when we can't even stop drugs is for the stop the war on drugs is for the birds. repeat again, you birds. and i repeat again, you know, showing his

know, starmer is showing his true colours. and you know, this is open borders is a de facto open borders policy. i do agree that the policy. but i do agree that the conservatives cannot revert to what did 2019, so. oh what they did in 2019, so. oh god, going to be god, everyone's going to be worse. corbyn's power. the worse. if corbyn's in power. the tories have in power for 13 tories have been in power for 13 years. they made complete years. they made a complete a hash of controlling our borders, a all their houses. a plague on all their houses. i think have to accept that think we have to accept that there be tens of there are going to be tens of thousands of people coming to this no matter what we do. >> i mean, you talk about being a de facto open borders policy under labour. that is what we have this government. have under this government. i agree and it will continue and it get worse years it will get worse as the years go ahead of global go ahead because of global warming. we have to prepare warming. and we have to prepare for it and we have to accept that a huge knock on that it has a huge knock on effect on our public services and houses housing. but nobody that i have come across has come up with a decent solution to this . this. >> i totally agree. and that is why i think we need we need a political revolution that none of the above party. well everyone, if asked me my everyone, if you asked me my humble everyone's humble opinion, everyone's looking the wrong place. humble opinion, everyone's loo you're the wrong place. humble opinion, everyone's loo you're alle wrong place. humble opinion, everyone's loo you're all everyone's:e. humble opinion, everyone's loo you're all everyone's talking >> you're all everyone's talking about. these people come to about. when these people come to

uk is what we're uk shores, this is what we're going going to going to do. we're going to stick them in rwanda. we'll stick them in rwanda. we'll stick we're stick them over there. we're going back to you. going to stick them back to you. well excuse me if i'm missing the point massively, but why aren't on aren't anyone focussed on actually people from actually stopping people from reaching country reaching this country in the first i don't you first place? i don't know. you get touch. final word to you get in touch. final word to you at vaiews@gbnews.com i've at home. vaiews@gbnews.com i've got your way. 20 got a lot coming your way. 20 mile hour speed limits

news radio. >> hello there, i'm michelle dewberry tall seven michael crick and martin daubney remain alongside me. i'm not kicked him off yet. it's his first go. he's managed to survive the first part. so let's move on, shall we? the london mayor sadiq khan, he is basically announced the biggest expansion of the 20 mile an hour zone to date . right. and an hour zone to date. right. and this my eyes and ears this pricked my eyes and ears because do not if you're sitting there and you're not in london, don't roll your eyes and go, oh, a london topic because this thing this is not just a london kind of let's make everyone

drive very slowly indeed, because i have to say, these 20 mile an hour zones seem to be popping up mile an hour zones seem to be popping up in quite i don't know if i've got a map. actually, if ihave if i've got a map. actually, if i have got a map to show you, then i'll try and get that up on then i'll try and get that up on the screen. there you go. get your glasses on, everyone, because if you can see that you deserve a medal. but basically the green areas, the i mean, you're going say it's all you're going to say it's all green, you what i mean? green, but you know what i mean? the darker green on the darker green areas on that map is places in the map there is the places in the country that people are looking at rolling out or have rolled out mile an hour zones. out 20 mile an hour zones. michael, start you on michael, i'll start with you on this. saying this. some people saying it's basically motorists, basically a war on motorists, other saying it's other people saying it's fantastic, you on it? fantastic, where are you on it? >> i'm broadly in favour of it. i mean, presumably we're talking about mile zones about 25, 20 mile an hour zones in urban not the in urban areas, not the countryside. and you get used to it after a while. the one thing countryside. and you get used to itdon't a while. the one thing countryside. and you get used to itdon't get'hile. the one thing countryside. and you get used to itdon't get used the one thing countryside. and you get used to itdon't get used th

reduce emissions and maybe persuade a few more people to go onto public transport. >> well, apparently in 2018, 10% of all road traffic accidents in the uk occurred within these 20 mile an hour zones. so they're not reducing it. >> well, it depends what the figure was before, doesn't it? >> well, but to quote you, if you've got 20 mile an hour and i don't mean to be i'm not being flippant, but there are electric scooters that can go faster than that. electric bikes that. there are electric bikes that. there are electric bikes that go faster than that. that can go faster than that. there's some kids on i don't know they can faster know what they can go faster than that. for me, this feels than that. so for me, this feels like measure like such a stupid measure because to because you're trying to disproportionately restrict motorists. >> well, electric bikes and scooters. well, electric scooters. well, electric scooters are illegal nearly everywhere , but everyone rides everywhere, but everyone rides them. >> and the police don't do anything. no >> and they do ride them on the pavements as well. and ideally we'd crack down that. but the we'd crack down on that. but the police got other things to police have got other things to do the about accidents do and the thing about accidents as you well know, that is whether the accidents that occur

in mile an hour zone, how in the 20 mile an hour zone, how serious they now , an serious they are now, an accident an hour is accident at 20 miles an hour is going be less serious on the going to be less serious on the whole than one at 30 miles an houn whole than one at 30 miles an hour. are you in favour of 20s? >> no, no. khan is a >> no, no. sadiq khan is a highway robber. he's he's the politician of all who's waged a war on motorists because he knows they're a cash cow that he can milk dry. he's his figures. on introducing ulez, whether it's, say, 4000 lives a year and foie freedom of information showed actually one londoner has died in 20 years with road pollution and vehicle pollution. sorry on their death certificate . so he fudged it on that . there . so he fudged it on that. there was a 3% decline in nitrogen oxide , which couldn't even be oxide, which couldn't even be pinned to on ulez. it's just cleaner burning cars. and now we're saying this is about eliminating deaths and serious injury on the transport network. when report shows that 20 when an rac report shows that 20 mile hour limits have minimal mile an hour limits have minimal impact , they are impact on safety, they are basically the a fig leaf for taxation . it's as simple as taxation. it's as simple as that. it's a way of taking money out of people's pockets because

motorists are an easy target. they can be tracked, they can be traced, can be fined. you traced, they can be fined. you get it through the letterbox. and another example and this is just another example of war on motorists to raise of a war on motorists to raise taxes. as taxes. it's dressed as salvation. it's taxation and the badideas salvation. it's taxation and the bad ideas start like these sound bites. >> don't you? dressed as taxes? what was it dressed as? salvation. >> lots of preparation. yes but that's what it is. and. and and you're dead right to say. oh, it's just london. no, the bad idea is start in london and they go nationwide because local authorities like clean air zones . they're now norwich, newcastle, , you know, newcastle, birmingham, you know, cambridge, milton cambridge, oxford, milton keynes, they're going to go nationwide it's a of nationwide because it's a way of raising money local raising money for local authorities bankrupted after covid motorists are there to be fleeced. >> yeah, and you mentioned cyclists, by the way, which i do cycle, so i'm just having cycle, so i'm not just having a go at cyclists, but i think it's wrong you can just get on wrong that you can just get on cycles and not have any identification markers. so you can along, you can scrape can go along, you can scrape alongside cars and scratch it off, you can cause our accident and all the rest of it and no

one has a clue who you are. you don't have your insurance. so actually we do cause damage. no one can come after you for anything. but i slightly digress. point about the digress. the point about the council was going bankrupt. digress. the point about the counciof/as going bankrupt. digress. the point about the counciof them ing bankrupt. digress. the point about the counciof them are bankrupt. digress. the point about the counciof them are either|pt. loads of them are either bankrupt or heading that way. do you happening you think now what's happening is councillors are is lazy councillors who are really at their own job, really bad at their own job, they manage their own they can't manage their own finances and now sitting there thinking, get myself thinking, how can i get myself out of this hole? right? i know these motorists the these motorists because the lower create speed, lower that you create speed, speed the more likely lower that you create speed, speeare the more likely lower that you create speed, speeare that the more likely lower that you create speed, speeare that people)re likely lower that you create speed, speeare that people are .ikely lower that you create speed, speeare that people are going to you are that people are going to inadvertently , often speed . and inadvertently, often speed. and then you're going to get your catching moment. >> i accept there be there is likely to be a strong element of that. and that's because this government has withdrawn grants from at an from local councils at an extraordinary rate over the last 13 years. and many of them conservative and labour are struggling through their finances. it's not just it's just not if they're incompetence is anywhere. it's in central government . government. >> hang on. no, no, no, because i can't have that. i'm afraid i'm not having that. it was it was it the other day. it was at

birmingham. yes. who who have gone into bankruptcy . and the gone into bankruptcy. and the first thing they do sit there first thing they do is sit there crying, talking about £1 billion worth of cuts from central government course decade. >> well, it's happened to all councils. wokeist went bust. that conservative that was a conservative council. thurrock was thurrock went bust. that was a conservative council. northamptonshire went. i covered that was that story. that was a conservative idea conservative council. the idea that just labour that this is just labour councillor for birmingham clean air missing my point. >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. for example, birmingham had >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. a)r example, birmingham had >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. a billion ple, birmingham had >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. a billion overbirmingham had >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. a billion over armingham had >> yeah, because ultimately, yes. a billion over a decade,m had lost a billion over a decade, but simultaneously had cost but they simultaneously had cost themselves that amount of money and potentially more not and potentially more by not paying and potentially more by not paying people in accordance to the law . so blaming central or the law. so blaming central or it's not my fault. i really can't even manage my own books. it's his fault. it's the tories fault, surely. >> i'm sorry. it's your job to >> i'm sorry. it's yourjob to be the presenter, not mine. but back issue of the 20 mile back on the issue of the 20 mile mile may an mile limit, there may be an element but i. element of fund raising, but i. my element of fund raising, but i. my view is that we've become obsessed with cars, families having 2 or 3 cars. everybody seems to have a really big car these days. what's wrong with that? well, because it uses more

petrol, it it emits more carbon and it emits more rubber and all the horrible things that get into blood get into into our blood get into everywhere . we have got to get everywhere. we have got to get away being a car society. away from being a car society. we've got to start walking more because that contributes to obesity . the reason why people obesity. the reason why people are so fat these days is because they never get any exercise. they in all, if we they work. all in all, if we could reduce then could reduce car use, then great, michael, that might work in metropolitan london where people like sadiq khan live. >> but it doesn't work in places like north shropshire or derbyshire. yorkshire. well i don't is proposing don't think anybody is proposing to a 20 mile hour to introduce a 20 mile an hour limit north shropshire, are limit in north shropshire, are they? there's one they? but there's one in birmingham they went birmingham and they went bankrupt. worse bankrupt. and it gets worse because report came because this week a report came out, they're going to they're going decrease the margin going to decrease the margin to one above speed one mile an hour above speed limit. so 21 miles an hour will get nicked. it's ridiculous. get you nicked. it's ridiculous. that's error. that's that's a margin of error. that's a and a speedometer error. and i wouldn't along. we are wouldn't go along. we are heading a situation heading towards a situation where people are being taxed off the road driving like like foreign holidays . like gas foreign holidays. like gas boilers become preserve boilers will become the preserve of the rich. we're going back in

time. >> hammering the >> well, i hammering the poorest, hardest measures. >> electric cars in a >> we need electric cars in a world where we're going to be frying in ten, 50 years time, hitting in trouble is you're complacency. >> it's so selfish . are you >> it's so selfish. are you basically saying, let's all live a life of luxury? yes, i do. i do have a car. >> so hang on a second. let me just be absolutely clear. so you want everyone else? we try and use it to a minimum. >> let me finish. >> let me finish. >> so you want everyone else to get rid of their cars so that we don't fry your words in ten years time. but by your own admission, not saying admission, i'm not saying everybody get rid of everybody should get rid of their. a hypocrite. their. then you're a hypocrite. >> saying we should >> no, no. i'm saying we should have fewer cars. families don't need 3 cars. need 2 or 3 cars. >> get rid of your car. >> then get rid of your car. you've just said everyone. >> do we do? i do try and >> what do we do? i do try and travel by train as much i can. >> lead by example. >> lead by example. >> exactly. well, i agree with that. to leave our that. we all need to leave our example. this country needs to lead and i would lead by example. and i would i would stress that point. >> banning goals of who >> banning goals of you who frequently this frequently appear in this studio, get rid of

studio, who want to get rid of the net target. the net zero target. >> should everybody should >> we should everybody should set example. this country set an example. this country should set an example. we should take seriously. take global warming seriously. china we china and india. otherwise, we are selfishly leaving are selfishly leading, leaving the children, the problem for our children, grandchildren great grandchildren. why aren't you being the >> why aren't you then being the change want to see in change that you want to see in the world? i appreciate the world? because i appreciate and saying. and respect what you're saying. let's these changes. and respect what you're saying. let's with these changes. and respect what you're saying. let's with yourself.e changes. and respect what you're saying. let's with yourself. you'vejes. and respect what you're saying. let's with yourself. you've just start with yourself. you've just told me that everyone's fat and they're walking. get they're all not walking. get rid of your car. come on. this show and right, guys, here i am. and say, right, guys, here i am. do of yourself walking do videos of yourself walking along doing your jumps. along doing your star jumps. i am that want am being the change that i want to be. every time i come to be. i mean, every time i come when i when first appeared on when i when i first appeared on these programs gb your these programs at gb news, your producers said, oh, would you like a car to you up? like a car to pick you up? >> a car to take you back? >> and a car to take you back? and said i said, no, i'll go and i said i said, no, i'll go on the underground. those days. and i do. and that's exactly what i do. and that's exactly what i do. and to the underground at and i walk to the underground at either end. so that helps. maybe i should get off a stop earlier. but yeah, i'm not saying that i was great believer in was i am a great believer in setting i'm also setting an example. i'm also a bit hypocrite in some of bit of a hypocrite in some of this, at least we should go

this, but at least we should go in that direction. why? everybody an enormous car everybody has an enormous car these they don't. these days. well, they don't. compared years ago, compared with just 20 years ago, everybody's much an everybody's car was much an enormous they need enormous car. why do they need two cars? >> three cars, an enormous car? >> three cars, an enormous car? >> been tax the >> my car's been tax off the road. >> e we're a two car >> in fact, we're a two car household. i mean, you must hate me, but just to absolutely me, but just to be absolutely clear, i'm getting rid of my clear, i'm not getting rid of my car. if i want an enormous car, that's my business a free that's my business in a free society. anyone tells society. and before anyone tells me everybody's business, if you're emit you're going to emit, emit carbon, going a carbon, you're going to use a emit particles the emit rubber particles on the road and all the horrible particles that come out and cause respiratory cause people respiratory diseases and so on. >> society city's >> well, that is society city's problem, just rid of problem, not just get rid of your and i be inspired your car and i will be inspired by you. >> right. well, and then i might i just might consider getting >> right. well, and then i might i juof might consider getting >> right. well, and then i might i juof my ht consider getting >> right. well, and then i might i juof my car. )nsider getting >> right. well, and then i might i juof my car. )nsiinot getting >> right. well, and then i might i juof my car.)nsiinot going| >> right. well, and then i might i juof my car.)nsiinot going to rid of my car. it's not going to happen anyway. >> tell you. doubt it >> i can tell you. i doubt it when if you're going to be doing all this walking about as michael is advocating for, you want and warm. want it to be nice and warm. >> yes, i hear say. >> yeah. yes, i hear you say. well let's have look, shall well let's have a look, shall we? at the weather that we? then at the weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of

weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. as we go through tonight and into tomorrow, we are going to see those strong winds in the north easing, allowing for a little bit of a chilly night for some of us. meanwhile, some rain is going to push a little bit push its way a little bit further that rains push its way a little bit furthe caused that rains push its way a little bit furthecaused by that rains push its way a little bit furthe caused by this hat rains push its way a little bit furthe caused by this front. ns push its way a little bit furthe caused by this front. and being caused by this front. and you can see it starting to feed a further northwards a little bit further northwards as we go through the next day or so. meanwhile, deep low so. meanwhile, the deep low that's some windy that's brought some windy weather scotland pushing that's brought some windy weather as)tland pushing that's brought some windy weather as well. pushing that's brought some windy weather as well. stillushing northwards as well. still bringing some winds bringing some strong winds to shetland. the shetland. but otherwise the winds a result, winds are easing as a result, we're going to see low we're going to see some low temperatures perhaps across north of north northwestern parts of scotland. front scotland. meanwhile, this front that i showed you earlier, pushing parts of southern pushing into parts of southern scotland, england, scotland, northern england, northern ireland so on to northern ireland and so on to this temperatures not this rain. temperatures not dropping a huge amount and also staying warm more staying fairly warm across more southern friday, a southern areas friday, then a wet picture across southern scotland, northern england and northern ireland. the rain is going be quite persistent and going to be quite persistent and with some heavy bursts, we could see up see those totals building up a brighter further north, see those totals building up a b|few er further north, see those totals building up a b|few showers further north,

see those totals building up a b|few showers to zurther north, see those totals building up a b|few showers to watch north, see those totals building up a b|few showers to watch out th, see those totals building up a b|few showers to watch out for a few showers to watch out for here. meanwhile across central southern england wales , southern england and wales, plenty sunny weather to plenty of fine sunny weather to be temperatures getting be had and temperatures getting into mid 20 celsius. looking into the mid 20 celsius. looking ahead to saturday and there may be mist and fog patches to be some mist and fog patches to watch out for first thing. but these should quickly clear. then there'll plenty dry fine there'll be plenty of dry fine weather across the bulk of england wales though. watch england and wales though. watch out for a few showers developing later that front later on and notice that front that's for such a that's been around for such a long of time starts to long period of time starts to break up. so turning drier across northern areas. the across those northern areas. the risk heavy thunderstorms risk of some heavy thunderstorms as sunday with as we go into sunday with temperatures next temperatures dropping early next week warm feeling inside week. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news a week or two, they'll start they'll start conversing. >> i'm scouring the inbox. i'm scouring the social media. i'm trying to find. i'm reassured , trying to find. i'm reassured, michael, that people will definitely agree with him. where are you? where are you people? are you sitting there saying, yes, he's absolutely right. and in fact, maybe you have led by

example, maybe indeed you've example, maybe, indeed you've got rid of your car and therefore rest of therefore you want the rest of us suit. i don't know. us to follow suit. i don't know. you get in touch with me. i want to you about shoplifting to talk to you about shoplifting after the break. but lots of responses from you guys as well that i want to bring in on some of but of these topics. but look, i have simple question for you. have a simple question for you. what causing the shoplifter what is causing the shoplifter sting? it's an sting? well, it's just it's an absolute mess at the moment. but what's is it absolute what's behind it is it absolute poverty? can't eat? or is poverty? people can't eat? or is it just absolute that it just absolute chancers that couldn't about

radio. >> hi there, i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. martin daubney, michael crick still alongside me. cynthia she thinks 20 miles an hour speeding. it's a fantastic she's she says it's going to give her the opportunity to go speeding in her mobility scooter. i'd admit laughs and fear. i'll give you your due. jim says. 20 mile an hour, especially late at night. he says it's stupid because it will increase muggings crimes against muggings and crimes against the

motorists. you hit on an important point there, jim. why do those roads need to be 20 miles an hour? 24 over seven? because like you say, like children or whatever it is that you're trying to you're potentially trying to save you know, serious save from, you know, serious harm, they're going to be in bed out in the middle the out there in the middle of the night all the rest of it. so night and all the rest of it. so surely you revert back to surely you could revert back to 30. you guys know 30. i don't know you guys know what doing. you guys what you're doing. you guys will tell what think. paul, tell me what you think. paul, why are you talking about wales? it's nationally it's been introduced nationally in michelle we've got in wales. michelle and we've got remote there. remote communities there. we can't or cycle. we can't walk around or cycle. we don't have good public transport. yeah, my transport. yeah, that's my point. i'm saying. point. that's what i'm saying. this is not a london centric thing. don't if you thing. i don't know if you missed little map there. this missed my little map there. this is across country. is happening across the country. you're nigel. you're absolutely right, nigel. and many others apparently said that they will stay in a lower gear at that speed. you're therefore saying that actually you think you'll create more car pollution than less when you're driving at 20 miles an hour. let me know your thoughts on that one. i do want to talk about shoplifting now. it's absolutely

everywhere . and i want to bring everywhere. and i want to bring up, if i can, on a couple of front pages . this was the daily front pages. this was the daily mirror yesterday, an and they've got themselves into a bit of spot of bother. so they're saying it's like the year of the shoplifter and now they're saying if you've got cctv , send saying if you've got cctv, send them to us, the daily mirror and we will publish them. a lot of people criticise that newspaper because they are traditionally of the left. some would say, and they're saying that actually what's causing this situation is actually poverty and cost of living. so today, the daily mirror, i think i can show you today's headline as well on the screen . bear with me and i shall screen. bear with me and i shall bnng screen. bear with me and i shall bring it up. but anyway, they are responding to that because i'm hoping i can get it on the screen. but actually, what they're saying, it's after threatening hard work in shop staff, this brazen thief walks out with, staff, this brazen thief walks outwith, we're just going to get it up. three cases of stolen lager . sir, get it up. three cases of stolen lager. sir, this get it up. three cases of stolen lager . sir, this is get it up. three cases of stolen lager. sir, this is not a desperate mom grabbing baby milk

in the tory cost of living crisis. this is basically yet another yob filling his boots in tory lawless britain in. what do you make, sir? oh, michael . you make, sir? oh, michael. >> well, i think some of the crisis may be caused by cost of living issues and so on, cost of living issues and so on, cost of living problems . i hate that living problems. i hate that word issues. i don't know why i used it. but i think the other the other consideration is this, that shops these days, particularly the small supermarkets, the biggest supermarket, have fewer and fewer they fewer staff because they do everything automatic everything through automatic checkouts so on. it's very checkouts and so on. it's very difficult of difficult sometimes in some of these to find member these shops to find a member of staff therefore it's very staff and therefore it's very difficult if you've got very few staff, difficult to staff, it's very difficult to police whole thing and keep police the whole thing and keep an eye on regular shoplifters and so and so in way and so on. and so in a way they're encouraging shop lifting by manning their stores by not manning their stores properly in that staffing . properly in that staffing. >> sherman sorry, that victim blaming . blaming. >> well, there's an element of that. yeah it's wrong. it's wrong. it's immoral and it's illegal and it should be cracked down on and it should be stopped . but police, you know, the

. but the police, you know, the trouble is we haven't got enough police and they consider they've got serious crimes to look got more serious crimes to look after. but i mean now they're committed. the metropolitan police, to pursuing any crime where there is evidence of a crime, then one would have thought they were going to do a lot about this. i suspect not, though. >> well, that's because they're too busy messing around on twitter, up twitter, following up with people that said, oh, a nasty word. mate. do you word. yeah, mate. what do you miss stuff? miss all this shoplifting stuff? >> right. i mean, they're >> you're right. i mean, they're too policing tweets and not too busy policing tweets and not policing streets. 71% of shoplifting not in shoplifting is not good in michaels. >> michaels making notes and he's away. he's getting his catchphrases down. that's true . catchphrases down. that's true. >> form 71% of shoplifting incidents that are reported to the police aren't even attended. now, shoplifting is de facto legalised in the uk now £200 or under shoplifting doesn't even count the brazenness of shoplifters now is out of control . well, they know they control. well, they know they won't get nicked . they know that won't get nicked. they know that they won't get stopped . they they won't get stopped. they know that staff won't risk an

altercation , a physical altercation, a physical embroilment with shoplifters. and as a consequence , this and as a consequence, this nofion and as a consequence, this notion that this is because of extreme poverty is nonsense . and extreme poverty is nonsense. and of course, chancers taking the mickey who have no self respect , they have no respect for property, they have no respect for law and order. and it's gone right down the toilet. and they can blame the government all they like. take some responsibility your own responsibility for your own disgusting wants disgusting action. michael wants to he to come back in and before he does, someone a story does, someone told me a story that just today that they witnessed someone who works in here. >> they in a shop and they >> they were in a shop and they saw a guy that they said was homeless. know, is homeless. i said, you know, is homeless. i said, you know, is homeless. said you could homeless. they said you could just tell he was like all dishevelled his shoes, dishevelled holes in his shoes, whatever. they saw him nick whatever. and they saw him nick two mean, that don't whatever. and they saw him nick two criteria mean, that don't whatever. and they saw him nick two criteria thatan, that don't whatever. and they saw him nick two criteria that you've: don't fit the criteria that you've just describing, does it? just been describing, does it? >> the vast majority of people. there are places where people that should be let that you think he should be let off that? off with that? >> one of the reasons for >> well, one of the reasons for people shoplifting, to people shoplifting, you look to progressive countries like canada progressive places canada or progressive places like california, where they've basically legalised all this stuff.

>> and what happens is we've created liberal cesspits where drug addicts come in, drug dealers come in and people are rampaging through shops, clearing off the shelves. and that's coming to britain. in fact, what happened in peckham. >> i mean, i think the >> yeah, i mean, i think the danger with all this is that you actually drive shops out of business or the big chains say, right , well, we can't afford any right, well, we can't afford any more to have a shop in this particular area because we suffer shoplifting and suffer shoplifting so much. and i really have i think you really do have to have zero tolerance this . have zero tolerance on this. otherwise who are otherwise the people who are going are all the going to suffer are all the people living in that neighbourhood where they have nowhere neighbourhood where they have novwell, you get in touch and >> well, you get in touch and tell me, what do you think about this? because apparently this, according to the british retail consortium, according to the british retail consaboutf, according to the british retail consabout 8 million incident of was about 8 million incident of shoplifting 12 shoplifting in the last 12 months. well, the last 12 months to anyway. apparently to march anyway. apparently it's been in things been a 35% increase in things like shoplifting as well in the last six months. i'm astonished it's that low, quite frankly. but what do you want? do we think that the police should be tackling this, cracking down on it? priority? do you

it? is that the priority? do you want like a broken window type approach here in country approach here in this country where misdemeanours where the smallest misdemeanours are really clamped down on? or do think the police have got do you think the police have got better to do, quite better things to do, quite frankly, focus on someone frankly, than focus on someone that's tin of that's just nicked a tin of beans? don't know. you get in beans? i don't know. you get in touch and you talk about me, but we've been about we've just been talking about shopkeepers there, leads shopkeepers there, which leads me next topic me nicely onto my next topic because be familiar with because you'll be familiar with what's gone peckham. what's gone down in peckham. perhaps there and perhaps the shopkeeper there and the incident there a couple of days ago. anyway, get days ago. well, anyway, get this, that fella, the shopkeeper is pretty much hiding is pretty much in hiding now. shop and he is in shop shuttered and he is in fear. kids to come fear. his kids have had to come out of school and everything. what's going be talking what's going on? i'll be talking to perhaps to someone soon who perhaps i would argue is supporting the protests. but after

break hello there. welcome back to dewbs& co. with me. michelle dewberry with you right through till 7:00. martin daubney and michael crick remain along side me. but there's something that i want to reflect on that we touched upon yesterday. if

anyone was watching the program, you're familiar now you're probably familiar by now with the goings with the story. it's the goings on peckham here in london. on in peckham here in london. there was an altercation a couple of days ago in a hair extension shop, a hair product shop, and it did not end well. of course, the details of some of the occurrences there went viral online. there was protests and all the rest of it. the story is now moved on, though, today because the stop the shop there remains closed and the thing today thing that's caught my eye today is that the shopkeeper is basically hiding. this basically gone into hiding. this fella is absolutely terrified. he's to take his kids out of he's had to take his kids out of school . he's had to keep himself school. he's had to keep himself distant from his wife. and he's even sitting there now firstly thinking he's probably never going to be able to open his shop ever again. and he might even to leave the country. even have to leave the country. goodness me. want to goodness gracious me. i want to try get my head around what try and get my head around what on going on. so i'm on earth is going on. so i'm very pleased to say that. joining down the line joining me now down the line is ken haynes. is the chairman ken haynes. he is the chairman of haringey independent ken haynes. he is the chairman of search1gey independent ken haynes. he is the chairman of search monitoring ndent ken haynes. he is the chairman of search monitoring group. and search monitoring group. ken, i watched you yesterday

actually with christys actually with patrick christys discussing the protests and all the rest of it. and certainly then you seem very much in support of the protests and their messaging and all the rest of it. is that still the case today ? today? >>i today? >> i don't know about the messaging, but i was all am in favour of the peaceful protest thing. i'm not in favour of people posting racist or threatening messages, but there's ways of means because what you're showing here is still triggers me to see that could that could be my sister . could that could be my sister. that could be my daughter. that could be my auntie. and what you guys don't seem to realise for far too long when we when the this shop was targeted in black women for black hair products and for far too long that we are our women are being disrespected when they're going to such shops. and i'm saying at the end of the day, if you are if you're a businessman, you're supposed to deal with people in a fair

and equitable way. i'm not saying this is a racist thing. i can say that maybe it's a misogynistic behaviour that was exhibited that was triggering for me and that's where i'm coming from. >> okay, so first things first. you've never spoken to me so. no, i'm not i'm not sure how, you know, my previous position, but just for the absolute record , i think what unfolded in that store, whatever caused it, whoever's right and wrong and all rest of in mind, all the rest of it, in my mind, there no ever that you there is no reason ever that you put as a man, you put your hand around the neck or throat of an individual will ever a woman, ever.i individual will ever a woman, ever. i don't what individual will ever a woman, ever . i don't what colour ever. i don't care what colour the is or what age the the woman is or what age the woman is, that's irrelevant to me. unequivocably me. that is unequivocably absolutely wrong. so think absolutely wrong. so i think we're agreement there. what we're in agreement there. what i don't understand , though, is don't understand, though, is like you just mentioned this. what's gone on now is this guy, like you just mentioned this. whathejone on now is this guy, like you just mentioned this. whathe has on now is this guy, like you just mentioned this. whathe has beenow is this guy, like you just mentioned this. whathe has been decided.; guy, like you just mentioned this. whathe has been decided. judge ken. he has been decided. judge jury, ken. he has been decided. judge jury, executioner. guy is a jury, executioner. this guy is a racist . hit the posters on his racist. hit the posters on his wall, a shop door and all the rest of it. it's all about blm. i'll read some, some of these things out you. our skin,

things out to you. our skin, our skin is a crime. some skin is not a crime. some respect our existence or expect resistance . our ancestors have resistance. our ancestors have spoken. resistance. our ancestors have spoken . you touch one, you touch spoken. you touch one, you touch all attempted murder . parasitic all attempted murder. parasitic merchants out of our community. i mean, how was this awful incident suddenly turned into him being a racist? >> look, i said i don't look at it as a racist issue. and i looked at it at the same way that you look at it and that is simply look at the size of that of that of the shop owner and look at the size of that young woman. look at the way that i do security . so i'm a woman. look at the way that i do security. so i'm a a trained door supervisor and i've had my licence for something like 15 years. and if i ever dealt with any of my customers in that manner, i would lose my badge and i would lose my livelihood. a substantial part of my livelihood. i might think it is simply that he's could and

should have dealt with it much better than he did. let me say , better than he did. let me say, this wasn't a person who was shoplifting . this was a person shoplifting. this was a person a dispute who brought back some goods faulty goods, and wanted a refund . and under the sales of refund. and under the sales of goods act 1979, she was entitled to receive a refund. and for the sake of £24, it's now escalated to somewhere beyond belief. >> i mean, i don't want i don't want to get too technical in this , but the sales of goods act this, but the sales of goods act 1979 that has been superseded now replaced by the consumer rights act 2015. and actually what these things say is you're not entitled to, for example, a refund on a product just because you might, for example, have changed your mind if you bought it you're it in a store. yes you're entitled product was entitled to a product if it was faulty. that's what that act says. but nonetheless, we're digressing core issue. says. but nonetheless, we're dwant;ing core issue. says. but nonetheless, we're dwant to; core issue. says. but nonetheless, we're dwant to understand ore issue. says. but nonetheless, we're dwant to understand why ssue. says. but nonetheless, we're dwant to understand why have so i want to understand why have so many of the black many members of the black community it upon community took it upon themselves intimidate this community took it upon themintoas intimidate this community took it upon theminto hiding?imidate this community took it upon theminto hiding? probablyhis community took it upon theminto hiding? probably never man into hiding? probably never to be able to open his stores again because they have decided

that he is a racist. >> i won't say that they've come out there to intimidate this man. they come up here to show solidarity and concern with what they saw on on that social media post that was that was very concerning. that triggered me. >> and where is the skin colour element of this? this is what i don't understand. ken, i'm hoping you can help me in my viewers understand, because what the people that have come out in solidarity are the black community. and i've just read you some messages. you'll be familiar anyway, familiar with them. anyway, these messages are plastered all over they explicitly over the board. they explicitly reference skin black reference skin tone. black lives matter and all this and all that and all the other. how has this turned this racial issue ? turned into this racial issue? >> what i saw from from what you just showed, there was not only black. i see. i see a white woman and a white male and female . that's actually part and female. that's actually part and parcel of that protest . so it parcel of that protest. so it reached people , not just a black reached people, not just a black thing . now, we got no , i've got

thing. now, we got no, i've got no hold on. the people that that will have got other triggers and will have got other triggers and will use this to post disgusting and disrespectful thing that goes beyond the pale. that's what i would i would agree with you to say that that's unacceptable . well, there's unacceptable. well, there's nothing wrong . and i'm strongly nothing wrong. and i'm strongly believe because i'm an activist, i will go on the street and i've beenin i will go on the street and i've been in the street for many years when something drives me to want to then to do, of course, i understand. >> and i respect your right to do that. but ken, you are an influential high profile black man. i think we're both agreeing, perhaps. i mean , are agreeing, perhaps. i mean, are you you seem to be agreeing with me that you don't think this is a racist incident then, so, you know, you kind of know, would you kind of sit there and to the people there and say to the people within the black community, stop this, this man alone? this, leave this man alone? because mean, i'm assuming you because i mean, i'm assuming you don't agree with this guy being intimidated business, intimidated out of business, never shop again. never to open his shop again. right

>> you're right. but but the thing is, i would also ask the shop owner to do some deep reflection on himself, to do some work on himself, because i'm not sure because this tend to think that if he thinks that was an acceptable behaviour but he doesn't think it's acceptable behaviour, he's already come out and regret it. and said he regret it. >> i mean, you know, ken , this >> i mean, you know, ken, this woman, she was bad hiring him. she repeatedly whacked him over and over and over and over again, even when the fellow had his back to her and was walking away, she was battering him . away, she was battering him. >> look , as i said, you know, >> look, as i said, you know, escalate it. they had other people in the shops . i didn't people in the shops. i didn't understand why no one stepped in to try to de—escalate the situation and to and to step in just to defuse it. i don't understand that because that's what i would have done, because even though the woman might have been riled up because she felt at the end of the day that by him putting his hand around her

throat , kind him putting his hand around her throat, kind of it kind of gassed litter and but but, ken, i just want to get to the nuts and bolts of this issue. >> do we both agree that that wasn't a racist issue, a racist incident? it wasn't sparked by hatred towards the latest skin colour. do we agree on that? yes i would i would agree that it wasn't sparked upon a racist element in it. >> and even though , as i said, >> and even though, as i said, because his business is dealing with the black with black women , because that's a hair product is primarily there for. yeah, because i've got to say, i'm very brief on time but i've i've never understood this whole everyone's complaining it's south men that own these south asian men that own these hair products. hair care products. >> and what i don't understand is if black woman wants to buy is if a black woman wants to buy a hair care product from a black woman, that woman, no problem with that whatsoever. you whatsoever. well, why don't you go whatsoever. well, why don't you 9° up whatsoever. well, why don't you go up a black hair go and set up a black hair product shop then? >> i agree with i agree >> i agree with you. i agree that if you're not getting a good service, then do not go into to that shop and buy

into that to that shop and buy good from there. because if it's just wise words. >> okay, ken, just for time reasons alone, i have to end it. there time flies. interesting insight, though. michael martin, thank you very much. thanks to you at home. do not go anywhere. nigel farage from next . nigel farage from next. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. as we go through tonight and into tomorrow , we tonight and into tomorrow, we are going to see those strong winds in the north easing, allowing for a little bit of a chilly night for some of us. meanwhile, some rain is going to push its way a little bit further northwards. that rains being front. and being caused by this front. and you see it starting feed you can see it starting to feed a bit further northwards a little bit further northwards as through next day or as we go through the next day or so. the deep low so. meanwhile, the deep low that's some that's brought some windy weather scotland is pushing weather to scotland is pushing northwards as well. still bringing strong to bringing some strong winds to shetland. but otherwise the winds result, winds are easing. as a result, we're low we're going to see some low temperatures perhaps across north parts of north northwest and parts of scotland. meanwhile, front scotland. meanwhile, this front that earlier that i showed you earlier pushing parts of southern

pushing into parts of southern scotland, england, scotland, northern england, northern on northern ireland and so on to this rain, temperatures not dropping amount. also dropping a huge amount. and also staying across small staying fairly warm across small southern areas friday, then a wet picture across southern scotland , northern england and scotland, northern england and northern ireland. the rain is going be quite persistent and going to be quite persistent and with some heavy bursts, we could see those totals building up a brighter picture. further north, a few showers to out for a few showers to watch out for here. meanwhile, central here. meanwhile, across central southern wales, southern england and wales, plenty sunny weather plenty of fine sunny weather to be and temperatures getting be had and temperatures getting into 20 celsius. looking into the mid 20 celsius. looking ahead to saturday and there may be some and fog patches to be some mist and fog patches to watch for. first thing, but watch out for. first thing, but these should clear. then these should quickly clear. then there'll of fine there'll be plenty of dry fine weather across the bulk of england and wales though. watch weather across the bulk of engford and wales though. watch weather across the bulk of engford few wales though. watch weather across the bulk of engford few showersiough. watch weather across the bulk of engford few showers developing1 out for a few showers developing later on and notice that front that's around such that's been around for such a long period time starting to long period of time starting to break

gb news. >> it's thursday night and this is farage at large. >> block from twitter, please welcome your host, nigel farage. good evening. it's farage at large . we're in witham. it's large. we're in witham. it's priti patel's constituency, the former home secretary she'll be joining us live on the programme. i'm going to have mark white with me. gb news is home affairs editor steve taylor from the police federation . from the police federation. >> and priti patel is going to tell us whether keir starmer has got it right on the boats . got it right on the boats. >> but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> nigel thank you. well we start with some breaking news this evening . within the last this evening. within the last ten minutes or so, we've heard that president biden's son in the united states, hunter