ever charges. it's the first ever prosecution of a sitting presidents chief failed. he's facing three criminal counts now related to making false statement . it's in connection statement. it's in connection with the purchase of a firearm and illegally possessing the weapons. as a drug addict. so these are serious charges for joe biden's son, hunter biden, who's pictured here. if you're watching on television and it follows the collapse of a plea deal after it fell apart so that breaking news just into us this evening . well, also the news evening. well, also the news tonight around 1 in 7 brits are waiting for routine treatment from the nhs in england . new from the nhs in england. new figures show 7.68 million people are currently on the waiting list. and there's also been a rise in waits of over a year earlier, the government announced the nhs will be receiving £200 million to help with the coming winter . but with the coming winter. but labour said the money was just a sticking plaster. winter is

always a challenging time for the nhs and this year we started planning for winter earlier than ever before. >> today we're announcing £200 million, which will go to the nhs to help build extra capacity and resilience for this winter season , making sure that season, making sure that patients the care that patients can get the care that they need, but also the work we're doing improve nhs we're doing to improve nhs performance, results performance, which the results today is delivering for today show is delivering for patients with big improvements in ambulance times and a&e times since the winter . since the winter. >> well, also today , sir keir >> well, also today, sir keir starmer says he would seek an eu wide returns agreement for those who cross the english channel and come to the uk illegally. the labour leader says the deal may involve a quid pro quo approach to accepting migrants from the eu bloc. sir keir and the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper met with the eu's policing body europol in the hague. this morning. but the immigration minister robert jenrick says labour's plan won't stop the small boats crisis . stop the small boats crisis. >> well i think the mask slipped today. >> well i think the mask slipped today . we saw what would happen

today. we saw what would happen if there was a labour government and that is that they would wave in tens of thousands of illegal migrants from a place of safety in europe if their plan to share the burden of european countries went ahead over 100,000 illegal migrants would come to the uk and the worst thing is it wouldn't even stop the boats . wouldn't even stop the boats. >> the personal details of greater manchester police officers have been hacked in a cyber attack. details such as identity badges and warrant cards, including names and photographs , are all thought to photographs, are all thought to have been stolen. the force says it's aware of the attack and is treating it seriously. we now nasa says it's taking action to explore the potential existence of ufos . the space agency has of ufos. the space agency has said today there have been unexplained sightings in the sky, but so far they maintain there's no evidence the objects have extraterrestrial origin.

but they have appointed a new director to research. unidentified anomaly phenomenon. the agency's administrator, bill nelson, says he wants to shift the conversation about ufos from sensationalist am to science . us sensationalist am to science. us gb news across the uk on your tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker. by radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news let's take you live now to witham near chelmsford in essex for . chelmsford in essex for. farage good evening. well, i'm here in witham from northern essex. >> it is the constituency of priti patel , the former home priti patel, the former home secretary. >> she'll be joining me on the show a little bit later. we'll talk about that. we'll talk about crime and other things, too. but we couldn't have picked a better day to come here because cause today we've learned the labour solution

learned what the labour solution to the channel crisis or perhaps some would even say channel emergency is. yes, sir. keir starmer has revealed all a hard hitting column in the sun newspaper today. he is going to smash the gangs. he's going to treat the gangs as if they were terrorists. yes. and we're going to take a lead in europe up. i have heard that once or twice before in my career . so what's before in my career. so what's the plan .7 well, the plan is that the plan? well, the plan is that we are going to rejoin europol, not interpol. interpol where nafion not interpol. interpol where nation state police forces cooperate together. now, europol , which is the european union's own police force . but here's the own police force. but here's the bit i can't believe i've even as members of the european union, we did not join the european union's refugee and asylum policy. we stayed out of it . but policy. we stayed out of it. but starmer says that we will rejoin it . we'll do a deal with it. we'll do a deal with brussels . he'll be off to see

brussels. he'll be off to see president macron next week. the french will be nice and stop the boats coming . well optimism is boats coming. well optimism is a wonderful quality in life, and in return we will then take our share of the number of people crossing the mediterranean. given that 8000 people have arrived in lampedusa alone, the italian island in the last three days, it seems to me we would actually be taking more people illegally coming from other parts of the world than we currently are. and i don't believe for one moment it would even stop the boats. it's a policy that won't work and it's a policy that takes us back much closer to being members of the european union. and i think starmers labour party, frankly , starmers labour party, frankly, have made a very, very big mistake today. that's my take on where we are. but i'm joined now by gb news home and security editor mark white. and mark, were you surprised by the labour

announcement? >> well , not really, but announcement? >> well, not really, but he's clearly wanting to set himself apart from the conservatives and there's no doubt he has done that. i think the potential difficulty going forward for labour here is that there is no way on earth that the european union is going to sign up to a returns agreement unless the uk takes a share of the asylum seekers, the immigrants in the european union, which he's accepted . and in doing that , of accepted. and in doing that, of course you don't have then any real site of just what it's going to be from year to year. if we look at this year, you talked about lampedusa, the situation in lampedusa down on this italian island is just chronic. they are completely overwhelmed. 8000 people that have arrived on 160 boats in the past 48 hours and actually in italy as a whole so far this year over 124,000 odd migrants

have come into that country through the mediterranean route, compared to 65,000 at this point last year. so that just shows you from year to year they can't actually predict what the number they will have to take in is as kwarteng we might have a perverse situation where actually , in agreeing to this actually, in agreeing to this deal with the european union, we take more in the quota than ever came across so we could return people all who previously claimed asylum in an eu country. >> that's what he's saying. but we'd have to take our fair share and given that poland are saying no, given that hungary is saying no, given that hungary is saying no, given that slovakia are saying and now germany saying no, and now germany i think has said enough, this could be a huge number of people. >> well, we've got a huge row erupting within the european union, the eastern border states, of course , there are states, of course, there are very hard line on those coming into their countries . but now into their countries. but now you have the situation in spain, in greece , in italy, where they, in greece, in italy, where they, too , are thoroughly fed up of

too, are thoroughly fed up of all those who are coming in in the hundreds of thousands each yeah the hundreds of thousands each year. and they're saying enough. but then germany and france are falling out with italy and they don't want to take any more migrants. >> i was you know, i was i was a lone voice in 2015, in the european parliament as they set this policy up, which said that anyone that crossed the med and landed a foot on eu soil could stay. warned them it would stay. and i warned them it would be disaster for. but we have be a disaster for. but we have our problems here, don't we? our own problems here, don't we? we have own problems with we have our own problems with the stockholm and just the bibby stockholm and just down road a place called wethersfield. >> yeah. i mean, we've got a situation, course, situation, of course, where there than 50,000 there are more than 50,000 people staying in hotels at a cost of almost £7 million a day. now the government has got to try to find a solution to that. their solution is to try to put them in more purpose built accommodation centres . you can accommodation centres. you can see the logic in that, except when you happen to be in the community where they're putting in the case of wethersfield, 1700 young men. now what i've

been told about wethersfield so far is that there's less than 200 people there. but already people in the local area are starting to notice the issues around criminality in the villages and the small towns and villages and the small towns and villages around that base. there are 20 people we think just in the last couple of weeks who've just wandered off from the base, never bothered coming back. there was an incident in the last week where one young man set himself on fire there. so some real concerns . and you can some real concerns. and you can understand people in the local area being very worried about the potential eventual . the the potential eventual. the prospect of 1700 bored young men wandering about really not knowing what to do with themselves. and even though the vast majority might be good and well behaved, it only takes a small proportion. >> this is feeding through trouble. is feeding trouble. this is feeding through. have some polling through. we have some polling out overnight by people polling organised matthew organised by professor matthew goodwin. the goodwin. and one of the questions in your view, questions was in your view, has immigration in recent immigration to britain in recent years made the crime years has made the crime situation in the country better, worse no difference

worse or made no difference better? one 1% worse? yes. 45. the rest no difference. don't know. so it seems, mark, there is a growing perception that of those young men that are crossing the english channel, there are some, perhaps too many with bad intentions . with bad intentions. >> yeah, there's a couple of issues there with regard to those coming to the uk from other countries and their propensity for getting involved in criminality. propensity for getting involved in criminality . well, we know in criminality. well, we know there are 11,000 foreign national offenders in our prisons at the moment. national offenders in our prisons at the moment . add to prisons at the moment. add to that an issue of not knowing actually when people are coming into this country. exactly who they are because they're schooled by the people smugglers. throw away your passport, your credit cards or your mobile phones, anything that can identify you. and for the most part , these asylum the most part, these asylum seeker assessors border force officials, the police have no idea who's coming across our borders and what potential

threat they might pose. >> yeah, absolutely, mark white doing a great job for gb news. you really are. thank you. and some news out in the last hour or so that hunter biden, the son of the 46th president of the united states of america, has been indicted on three federal fire arm charges and sticking with the theme of crime in a moment , i'm with the theme of crime in a moment, i'm going to talk to mark taylor . moment, i'm going to talk to mark taylor. he's an essex guy and he's a member of the national board of the police federation. then we're going to talk about crime rising levels of crime, and what the hell do we do about this epidemic of shoplifting .

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and steve taylor is a national board member of the police federation of england and wales and formerly until 2020, he was the essex police federation chairman. >> steve, welcome to the program. now, i mentioned earlier some polling that we conducted , and it's i think very conducted, and it's i think very pertinent to this conversation on people polling and asked the question by the way, this is national generally speaking, do you believe that the level of crime is increasing or decreasing or staying the same in britain was the question we asked. and the result we got was increasing 62% decrease, ceasing to . now some people say, well, to. now some people say, well, maybe that's not right . a maybe that's not right. a national figures say different, but i've almost got the feeling, steve, that so many crimes now don't even bother to get reported that there is and even this town this very nice market town in north essex , actually, town in north essex, actually, if you look at the crime levels here, violence, sexual offences, theft, it's not a pretty

picture, is it? it be very easy to be dismissive of any figures from any poll or statistic because you can pick and choose as you go. >> but what's important is the perception. it's what people think . my perception. it's what people think. my members, police officers are here in essex and up and the country and up and down the country and members of the community, just like everyone in room. you like everyone in this room. you know. so they're going to be having same thoughts. having the same thoughts. and if their crime their perception is crime is going up, it's troubling for everyone. our members go to work. don't to go to work. they don't intend to go to work. they don't intend to go to work increase the fear of work and increase the fear of crime. course not. they're crime. of course not. they're working really hard under difficult circumstances . but difficult circumstances. but that perception, what people think, it's a challenge for us all to tackle what it is. >> but it actually gets worse than that, i'm sorry to say. and i'm a natural, very much supporter the police. and supporter of the police. and i want to be in every way. but this next question is, is really concerning. generally concerning. joe generally speaking, confidence , speaking, how much confidence, if you have in the if any, do you have in the police to deal with crime in britain in a lot of confidence 2. a fair amount of confidence ,

2. a fair amount of confidence, 27. not much confidence, 46. none at all. 14 something has gone wrong here. i'm not blaming you, but something has gone wrong here. if local communities don't believe that somehow the police are on their side . and i police are on their side. and i had on the programme earlier in the week a sort of new vigilante group down in the new forest where they're going to try and organise their own streets and sort out their own crime . i sort out their own crime. i mean, look, you guys had your battles when priti patel was home secretary. yeah you know, you felt that theresa may as home secretary had cut numbers far too fast, that we hadn't increased them quickly enough. but we have now increased. police officers again, haven't we? and it's a joke to we? yeah. and it's a joke to think that just because you've increased police officers, that you get a better service on the front line where those police officers are needed most. >> we said at the time when those when those cuts struck us, it took away 2000, 20,000

experienced officers , took them experienced officers, took them away. and what have they been replaced? >> replace them with inexperienced officers. >> replace them with officers that need time to learn their trade. you can't take away 20,000 experienced people and expect the same result from 20,000 inexperienced people with different pressures and different pressures and different stresses and let's not forget nigel back when those cuts were made in 2010, the population was 4 million people smaller here. so we've had a return of those figures. it's not a gift. we're not we're glad to see them back. but let's not kid ourselves. we're trying to get back to where we were all right. and over ten years, i get that. >> i understand that. steve, final thought, final point and really important one. the shoplifting epidemic has become a major national story over the course of the last few weeks. you know, the bosses of all the big firms, but co—op in particular, the most interesting, the co—op saying that four out of five times when

they actually catch somebody shoplifting, the police don't turn up. yeah. and that we're told that anything under £200 the people have nicked is now just a minor misdemeanour. surely we have to reverse this. surely we have to reverse this. surely if we allow this to go on, we allow other types of crime to develop very quickly. >> i absolutely understand and share that concern. but simply saying we're going to reverse it achieves nothing. it's a cheap , achieves nothing. it's a cheap, cheap, gimmicky headline handed down from parliament. that actually means nothing unless you invest in the resources that officers need. then the officer that's got to go to that £50 theft from co—op at the moment they've got other things to do and unfortunately the theft from co—op doesn't get high enough up the list for it to require for it to pull an officer away from other really important work . other really important work. there's too few of us and there is too much to do and simply saying we're going to deal with every theft or you're doing is adding to the issue. you're not

helping solve it. you need to cut the bureaucracy and get our officers away from their desks, away from hospital guards, where they're looking after people in hospital, away from custody, where people that should be in mental health facilities are instead spending time with the police . we need to get them away police. we need to get them away from there and out on the front line where they want to be. we need get them out with the need to get them out with the control rooms. control rooms control rooms. our control rooms are getting packed with warranted officers and the job to answer phone. to answer a phone. >> the bureaucracy , the >> the bureaucracy, the paperwork, the emphasis on people being rude to each other on the internet. we got all on the internet. have we got all this ? this wrong? >> you have to go again. i missed the question was it the bureaucracy, the paperwork? >> but equally, i mean, the metropolitan police have 1000 people being people monitoring what's being said right. said on social media. right. i mean, surely that's a wrong priority people rude to priority. people being rude to each shouldn't shouldn't each other shouldn't shouldn't surely bother police with surely bother the police with their time. >> it this way, nigel. theirtime. >> does it this way, nigel. theirtime. >> does that this way, nigel. their time. >> does that priority y, nigel. their time. >> does that priority stack el. their time. >> does that priority stack up how does that priority stack up against people stealing from your ? and you've your local shop? and then you've got judgement of you.

got to make a judgement of you. what's important? and what's more important? and presently powers be are presently the powers that be are deeming the things i would deeming are the things i would say preservation our high say the preservation of our high streets as being integral places and of our community and the centre of our community is where it should be. >> if i can very quickly , a >> if i can very quickly, a final quick thought , if i may, final quick thought, if i may, steve, do you feel the courts, the judges are backing you up? >> no , no, no, no. >> no, no, no, no. >> on that note. on that note , >> on that note. on that note, because you must let me expand expand on that. >> but my officers, our members are let down time and time again by the criminal justice service officer. assaults for 40,000 officers were assaulted in a year period. that's 110 a day. year period. that's110 a day. nigel terrible a day. and when they go , not all of them go to they go, not all of them go to court. and those that do not all of them can find a barrister to hear the case. and those that get heard, not all of them get the sanction that deserves the sanction that that deserves and on a police officer and attack on a police officer simply conducting exercising their and keep us their duty to try and keep us all safe should dealt with as

all safe should be dealt with as sternly possible the sternly as possible by the courts regrettably, it courts. and regrettably, it isn't . isn't. >> steve taylor. we all want to support you and our police officers and thank you for coming on. in a moment, it'll be time for barrage of barrage when the audience get their turn. >> back with you in a couple of minutes

it earlier on gb news radio. >> well, here we are and we've got listeners. >> first question, which is dennis , it's dennis, it's dennis, it's dennis, it's farage, the farage. >> here goes. hi, nigel. >> here goes. hi, nigel. >> with north korea and china pledging unconditional support to putin, how do you think that the west should respond if or more likely when china invade taiwan ? taiwan? >> i'm really worried about this and i think if you look at the economic data coming out of china, youth unemployment , the china, youth unemployment, the last figures we got huge

last figures we got 21, huge property crashes happening. china had this amazing period of growth, but it was massively over geared. there's a big economic reckoning coming and i genuinely believe that. and that i think makes the invasion of taiwan that much more likely. i think it will happen next year. i do. i do. and i. i hope to ido.ido.andi.ihopeto goodness i do. i do. and i. i hope to goodness i'm wrong . and i goodness i'm wrong. and i suspect that what we're seeing is , is russia, china , north is, is russia, china, north korea, south africa , a very, korea, south africa, a very, very big coalition in is building against us. and india. i'm not sure which way india is going to go on this. so i'm deeply worried about it. my suspicion is you asked me a question about about reaction. my question about about reaction. my suspicion is if china invades taiwan and the west does very little, it's my view. what's yours ? yours? >> well, i think we should i'd stand with taiwan, definitely . stand with taiwan, definitely. >> but the problem is, through lack of good leadership over the last few decades, probably ,

last few decades, probably, we've depleted our ability so much. i don't think we can. and our daughters joining the raf. so it's poignant to us. >> yeah, well, look, we've cut i mean, you know, 13 years of conservative government and we've cut back our forces in the most astonishing way. but the key to this is how america reacts. and if joe biden stood in the white they will do in the white house, they will do nothing and they will not perceive a threat, is my view. dennis, you for dennis, thank you. thank you for very important questions. jim >> jim good evening, nigel. everybody those watching at home, i may be wrong here and correct me if i'm wrong, but why is it that people that live in london and the vast majority are foreigners anyway , they're not foreigners anyway, they're not born and raised here and paid a lot into the country like i have? you have and everybody here. why is it they get they get free travel from the age of 60? people like myself from cambridge live in the sticks. we have to wait till we're 66. >> yeah , i mean, look, i think >> yeah, i mean, look, i think actually, the whole free travel

thing at the age of 60in london, which and there are different parts of london, but in many cases people in london are much better off. absolutely than people living out in the states. absolutely and i a funny absolutely and i it's a funny thing. taking benefits away from people is rather like getting a bone back from an alsatian. um, it's a really, really tricky thing to do. but frankly, i don't think i mean, i'm 60 next birthday, young man , you know? birthday, young man, you know? well, thank you . chicken, dare i well, thank you. chicken, dare i say, recalled that for years . say, recalled that for years. i'm 60 next birthday . i've got i'm 60 next birthday. i've got a decent job, a decent income. i'm fitter than i deserve to be given my lifestyle and i don't think i should be entitled to free travel from my 60th birthday. so i don't think the state can keep. but why? >> why? why is it for the londoners? well, because , you londoners? well, because, you know, they've got great transport system anyway compared to us out in the sticks. no, no, ho. 110. >> no. >> i get all of that. i get all of that. >> but we have to wait till we're 66. i know. years older. i

know. and because they earn better most of them in. better money, most of them in. how old are you gentlemen ? how old are you gentlemen? >> how old are you? >> how old are you? >> 67. coming on 68. so you've got down? i have. well, got a pass down? i have. well, there are . there we are. >> but i would have liked to have gotit >> but i would have liked to have got it when i was 60. >> okay. no, wait. i was 66. >> okay. no, wait. i was 66. >> i'm. i'm. »- >> i'm. i'm. >> i'm. i'm. >> i have a few shekels in my pocket. >> then i'm going to say yes. >> then i'm going to say yes. >> now, on brassic lynn, i'm going to take issue with you can be deceiving, but i don't think i don't think the state can go on giving away freebies like this. >> i think universal benefits are ridiculous. i think these things ought to be means tested in some way. we are massively in debt as a country. in some way. we are massively in debt as a country . crazy. our debt as a country. crazy. our debt as a country. crazy. our debt interest this year is going to be £110 billion. >> why is the rule so, so, so, so. 50. >> so. >> well, the rule is different because you vote for different people and we have devolved powers, unfair? yes. >> we all live on the same island. but the general. >> well, we don't any more politically because we have scottish parliament, a welsh parliament, and that's another bone why do

bone of contention. well, why do the jim, why did a welsh the welsh jim, why did a welsh in the jim get free prescriptions? >> we don't. jim, i'm going >> and we don't. jim, i'm going to bang the drums. thank you . to bang the drums. thank you. well george , george all i can well george, george all i can say is follow jim . say is follow jim. >> but i get it. i get it. yeah. free prescriptions, university fees. no, no, no. we could go on forever. exactly >> as a young man , i was born in >> as a young man, i was born in this country, lived all my life. but feel betrayed by it but i feel betrayed by it because, you know , this country because, you know, this country has is and funds the small boat migrants. right. they put them up in luxury hotels , whereas up in luxury hotels, whereas young people like myself , we got young people like myself, we got a scrape and claw for every opportunity we get. so what i'd like to know is when and why did this country decide we're going to choose migrants over our own

youth . george . i think youth. george. i think. this is . this is a perception shared by a vast majority of the population , except for those population, except for those people jim was talking about somehow now in central london, there is a completely new mindset that has taken hold. >> it's deeply embedded in much of our media. it's deeply embedded in much of our parliament. it seems to be even more deeply embedded in our courts and some of our judges courts and some of ourjudges is, which is that the concept that that you should put your own people first is somehow small minded, petty and verging on racism . and i'm sick of this on racism. and i'm sick of this narrative about awful. we are as a country , how ghastly our a country, how ghastly our history is . compare us to the

history is. compare us to the rest of europe and most of the rest of europe and most of the rest of europe and most of the rest of the world. i think we are actually generally the most easy going, tolerant, nice people. you could ever meet anywhere in the world. >> but. but . george, the one >> but. but. george, the one thing we hate is unfairness . thing we hate is unfairness. >> yes. and you put your finger on something deeply unfair. thank you . thank you very much . thank you. thank you very much. >> okay . alison >> okay. alison >> okay. alison >> hi, nigel. good evening . do >> hi, nigel. good evening. do you think the online forthcoming online safety bill will affect the content on gb news? >> well, i suppose really ofcom will be the ultimate arbiter of that. will be the ultimate arbiter of that . the online safety bill is that. the online safety bill is an incredibly difficult piece of legislation. how the hell do you how the hell do you regulate what's going on, on the wild west? how do you regulate it? how do you stop? you know , the how do you stop? you know, the criminal traffickers using tiktok because you closed down one account, they open another one. it is very, very difficult

, well—intentioned legislation, but very , very difficult. our but very, very difficult. our problem is not to be that problem is not going to be that our could the our problem could be the regulator . for to date, we've regulator. for to date, we've not many problems. not had too many problems. but right the regulator offer right now the regulator offer com have decided they're going to fight us all the way against us on the campaign for don't kill cash so you know sky news can campaign on the climate other channels can campaign on whatever they like . and whatever they like. and apparently we're wrong to campaign for people to go on taking cash , which we've no wish taking cash, which we've no wish to go to war with the regulators or with the government, with anybody . and i think, alison, anybody. and i think, alison, and i hope i can say this honestly, that whilst we are a channel where people have opinions and aren't afraid to express them, we're also very much a channel for free speech. i let people on my programme, i fundamentally disagree with. i don't get them for on a punch up. you can watch a chap on talktv for that. he does it every night at . 8:00 we every night at. 8:00 we genuinely want to hear what

people have to say and i think whatever battles we have with ofcom, i believe going back to that principle of fairness and decency, that i discussed with george, i believe we will come out on the right side of it. and i think we're a growing media organisation with a growing level of influence and i think our listeners our viewers and our listeners are really becoming very strongly attracts to what we do. and i thank you , you and all of and i thank you, you and all of you for being our supporters and thanks. you for being our supporters and thanks . okay. thanks. okay. >> in a moment, it's going to be time for talking pints >> and i'll be joined by witham's member of parliament. she's been the member of parliament for 2010. she's been the home secretary. she's never been far from been too far away from controversy. so i'm looking forward to talking pints with priti patel

yeah, it's that time my favourite part of the show, of

course , it's talking pints with course, it's talking pints with dame priti patel. pretty welcome to the programme. >> thank you so much and welcome to witham. nigel >> i am so pleased to be here. i have been here before , actually. have been here before, actually. >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> i should say there was a migrant hotel here, wasn't it? there was in the home secretary's three years ago, and i turned up and i probably helped you in a way. >> and everything changed after that. >> well, there we are. there we are. pretty. i first heard of you in 19 late 1996, early 97. and i was told about this young woman who was working with jemmy goldsmith in the referendum party's office. i mean, so there's always been a bit of political rebellion in you, hasn't there? >> well, that's one way of putting it. but that also tells me i've been sort of doing the anti eu campaign probably as long you as well. long as you have as well. >> that long. no. no really >> not that long. no. no really that that is true. that is true that is true. >> i mean i've i've got a personal story in terms of my own politically, how own background politically, how i involved in politics,

i got involved in politics, party politics, my party politics, but also my views europe and obviously views on europe and obviously why i then went to on campaign for brexit. and i remember the crisis . you were probably crisis. you were probably working in the city at the time. i was, yeah. and i just remember the devil stating impact that had jobs , livelihoods. had on people jobs, livelihoods. people lost their homes , people lost their homes, interest rates going through the rates went double digit interest rates. right? 15% interest rates and people know my mum and dad were shopkeepers and i saw the devastating impact that had on all of us. basically, our family lives . you know, we couldn't lives. you know, we couldn't even manage our repayments basically for the shop that my mum and dad had and we were lucky to keep the roof over our head because mum and dad came from uganda. >> that's right. and that proved to think, probably the to be, i think, probably the most single migration most successful single migration to been. the to britain has ever been. the number those people that came number of those people that came uganda, that have uganda, nations that have prospered of prospered and done well. but of course dad, sushil even course your dad, sushil even more eurosceptic than pretty, pretty, pretty. his dad was a member of ukip. i mean , it is member of ukip. i mean, it is

why ukip, he really did so. >> and that's what he thought. >> and that's what he thought. >> politics was really easy. and then he thought what it was really like from my perspective. no, i mean , i know you worked in no, i mean, i know you worked in corporate affairs. >> you did whole host >> you did a whole host of things university, but things after university, but was it mean, it always going it i mean, was it always going to be politics for priti patel? >> definitely not. i've >> no, definitely not. so i've been member tory party been a member of the tory party for long, long time. of for a long, long time. and of course, you i never tire course, you know, i never tire of saying my political hero is margaret thatcher. you know, she liberated our country in the sense of the 1980s, threw off the shackles of 1970s britain and what labour did to our country and all of that , you country and all of that, you know, and she was very much the person and we were the party back then of entrepreneurs and smes, you know , the party smes, you know, the party property owning democracy, all the low taxes , low taxes, the low taxes, low taxes, controlling borders , you name controlling borders, you name it. absolutely. wow exactly. >> so that was so that was the conservative party. >> but that's why i got involved with the party. >> so what's happened to it? >> so what's happened to it? >> so what's happened to it?

>> so nigel, that's why i got involved with the party. but i've always been backroom i've always been a backroom person ever person and i never, ever actually to be a member actually wanted to be a member of parliament. i mean, you know, my parents background, very business orientated, etcetera. and i'm very and then of course i'm very pubuc and then of course i'm very public service minded and, and at the end of the day, i do believe, you know, if you want to make a difference , roll your to make a difference, roll your sleeves up, throw yourself into it and see if you can make a difference. got a great difference. you've got a great constituency here. >> know, been >> you know, you've been whitham's 2010. even if whitham's mp since 2010. even if the get obliterated at whitham's mp since 2010. even if the next get obliterated at whitham's mp since 2010. even if the next election,iterated at whitham's mp since 2010. even if the next election, you're! at whitham's mp since 2010. even if the next election, you're one of the next election, you're one of the ones that will hold on and still i'm pretty still be there. and i'm pretty certain of that. but talking about the town, i went out and walked up the high street earlier have earlier on today and we'll have a quick look on the screen of what i found your high what i found in your high street. yeah. to today we're in witham and we're looking at bank closures. now you can see halifax, formally a building society, kind of a bank is still open. society, kind of a bank is still open . but if we go down the high open. but if we go down the high street, you'll see the extent of bank closures and how difficult it is for many businesses to

operate. come with me. since 2015, unbeliev . only three out 2015, unbeliev. only three out of five high street banks around the uk have closed. witham high street is no exception and this was until a couple of years back. hsbc let's go next door and this was barclays to let . and this was barclays to let. but that's not all and forgive me a wry smile, but after my recent travails with the natwest banking group, this natwest branch in the last couple of years has become an undertakers now of the big four banks. the last one left in witham high street is lloyds. lloyds is still here, but oh dear , we're still here, but oh dear, we're closing this branch . soon and closing this branch. soon and that'll be it. all four big banks will have gone from this high street. and this is typical of what's happening all around the country . the country.

>> i say pretty you know, that was witham, but it could have been almost anywhere, couldn't it? >> so and i spoke to her. i spoke to a lady who ran a butcher shop. and even though the halifax is open, they won't give coins or take coins. and her customers pay in tenners when they're buying sausages or bacon is this just bacon or whatever. is this just i mean, this market town. i mean, this is a market town. it's for centuries. is it's been here for centuries. is it in terminal decline? it just now in terminal decline? >> definitely i mean , >> no, definitely not. i mean, it looks like it. well, witham is a great town. it really is. so, number one, we have an incredible community here. but to your point about the high street going on in street and what's going on in terms of banks, we all know about the banks, don't we, in terms what they're doing? oh, terms of what they're doing? oh, i well, they want to i do. they well, they want to control mean, you can speak control i mean, you can speak personally this, but personally about this, but actually, a lot of actually, i've had a lot of small businesses come me, not small businesses come to me, not just recent months, but over just in recent months, but over the years a certain the years to a certain extent, they've but also, they've been debunked. but also, you know, these these retail banks, the high street banks , banks, the high street banks, just don't want their business anymore. they're making anymore. they're not making money so this is a money out of them. so this is a major, major and of

major, major problem. and of course, has a knock on impact course, it has a knock on impact in shops on the high in terms of shops on the high street, people setting up small businesses. you know, the small retailers in and retailers coming in and all those of things. of those types of things. and of course, they don't want to us use this is about, you use cash. this is all about, you know, digitalisation, credit cards or, you know, get your bank card out. and that's fundamentally wrong. and if you look our lovely audience look around our lovely audience tonight, a broad range tonight, we've got a broad range here ages, here in terms of ages, representations of our town. everyone has different circumstances . everyone has different circumstances. his and the point is, we should be able to cater for everybody on the high street or even bank should. and our or even our bank should. and our banks meant to provide banks are meant to provide a pubuc banks are meant to provide a public service. i've heard some very heard some very very i've heard some very encouraging from encouraging words from jeremy hunt from andrew griffith, the city minister here. >> and they've said some very positive things in the light of what i expose, what i expose opened up a bigger debate. it was a it was a debate that was there, but it was kind of below. >> sure, sure. yeah. >> sure, sure. yeah. >> table, a general election >> the table, a general election is know, it'll be is coming. you know, it'll be next october or whenever it is . next october or whenever it is. can the government sort the

banks out and make this thing fairer? well, look, first of all, i think, you i think all, i think, you know, i think we need to thank you for everything you've done as well in lifting the lid off in terms of lifting the lid off the whole de—banking the banks and this kind of stuff. and all this kind of stuff. >> and there's no doubt about that. >> and there's no doubt about that . i >> and there's no doubt about that. i should something that. i should say something else as well before i come on to the bank. i just want to thank you as well actually, for, you know, way in which you've know, the way in which you've just driven the political agenda on this issue. but even last time election, time at the general election, you and you stood you had candidates and you stood them enabled to them down, which enabled us to get majority. i know, but get that majority. i know, but you've asked i know, i know. well, i was coming to that, but. but that helped us get brexit done. and that was really important. but you but important. well, but you but you've asked you've asked the question banking. you've question on banking. you've asked a question banking. asked a question on banking. there no choice now because there is no choice now because if government doesn't if the government doesn't intervene too many people will just lose the right to, you know , have access to cash, access to bank accounts. and also it's going to be so detrimental to

the economy because businesses in particular will be affected. and that small businesses, 80% of my constituents are employed by smes, not the fancy corporates , not the big you corporates, not the big you know, the companies and things of that nature. we need banks and we need local this this matters and this campaign is one i'll probably go on fighting for years. >> i've got a record of doing that. you know i wanted brexit done.i that. you know i wanted brexit done. i was disgusted and appalled at the way that parliament did its best to stop it from happening. we remember it. i, i got rid of mrs. may. those european elections rid those european elections got rid of boris inherited that. of her. boris inherited that. i helped you in the general election in pretty. i thought we were to control our were going to control our borders reduce immigration. borders and reduce immigration. and you finished up with the hot potato in 2019 of being home secretary. and you talk very tough . and what i heard you tough. and what i heard you introducing a points based immigration i mean, immigration system. i mean, i know i've been saying this for 30 years and yet pretty last year legal immigration into britain was 1.2 million people.

these people didn't vote for that. >> you've got to remember, there are a couple of important things here. legal migration and illegals. >> let's talk legal for now . >> let's talk legal for now. >> let's talk legal for now. >> so we've had battles , >> so we've had battles, obviously that's british, british nationals overseas. people from hong kong come over here, over 140,000 people have come ukraine as well. i mean, by the time i left office, i think something like 180,000 visas had been granted as well. operation pit in afghan afghanistan. so it's been one issue after the other . yeah. and then you've other. yeah. and then you've asked about the points based system, which i fundamentally believe is right. we've set out we've set it too low. well, way too low. but that's the point , too low. but that's the point, right? so having changed the parameters , was the home parameters, was the home secretary of the day has the levers to actually raise the bar and the government of the day can do that. so you know, the parameters can be changed. >> priti patel, did you set did you set the bar too? well, we only just started it through the immigration changes that we brought in. immigration changes that we bro and in. immigration changes that we bro and then of we had >> and then of course, we had

the pandemic. i brought in the pandemic. so i brought in those changes. if those immigration changes. if you remember 2020, was you remember in 2020, that was a pandemic where quite pandemic year where quite frankly, things people not frankly, things people were not flying, not flying, people were not travelling weren't travelling. we weren't even given visas . so from 2021 given those visas. so from 2021 onwards, as you need a period of time to basically well, we do . i time to basically well, we do. i mean, pretty look, now is the time to we have control. >> we have control with brexit. we need to use it better on the small boats. i mean, clearly that was a nightmare for you. whatever tried to do didn't whatever you tried to do didn't work look, can we solve the work. look, can we solve the channelin work. look, can we solve the channel in your opinion? all the while we stay part of the european convention on human rights. >> so the answer actually, let me just say this . you've heard me just say this. you've heard me just say this. you've heard me say this many times. there isn't a single option or solution to know. >> i just ask one particular question. >> we do need to i think we need to derogate from the echr derogate. you cannot just say we're leave it. oh, you we're going to leave it. oh, you can. well, we can leave it. >> oh, i can, we can leave it. » .— >> oh, i can, we can leave it. >> i can. »- >> i can. >> but you know , parliament is >> but you know, parliament is not going to enable that to

happen. and it's. >> well, let's let's have >> well, let's let's let's have a referendum then. >> no more referenda. it's definitely referendums. definitely no more referendums. right but but look, right all right. but but look, laws place. nigel. you laws are in place. nigel. you can't we can't just say it's too difficult. now laws are in place. we've had national place. we've had the national anthem borders you know, anthem borders act. you know, the to the government needs to implement hasn't implement that. that hasn't happened and course, happened yet. and of course, nothing is changing. >> nothing is getting better. but luckily , keir starmer, the but luckily, keir starmer, the hero , has ridden to the rescue hero, has ridden to the rescue today with his new plan brought back into europe. >> we're going not going to we're going to treat them like terrorist and sort the whole thing out. >> so who's better? who's better to vote for at the next election? >> well, definitely not labour on this. they're just to on this. they're just going to walk straight into walk us straight back into europe they're walk us europe. they're going to walk us back europe on this. they back into europe on this. they really basic. and also, really are so basic. and also, you've heard they want a burden share. we will share. so that means we will have people from eu, have to take people from the eu, from europe, and that will be a quota. and it could just keep on changing. nigel, there's one policy actually policy we haven't actually spoken having a spoken about, which is having a deterrent and that deterrent policy and that is a game changer. we need a

deterrent, a big deterrent and of course one of those deterrent factors is rwanda and what's stopped so the courts stopped it. so the courts stopped it. so the courts stopped it. so the courts stopped it. it's going to the supreme judge at the echr , so supreme judge at the echr, so european. so there's been it a european. so there's been it a european court on rule 39. so thatis european court on rule 39. so that is coming in. but nobody is speaking about deterrent factor here. you can do all you want, put all the money in, but until you start removing people and sending them back to pretty. >> i get it. i get it. i get it. final thought. pretty you because of your views , because because of your views, because of your perfectly reasonable views have been abused. have been accused of being a bully . been accused of being a bully. and i've had some pretty vicious cartoons done of me. but i think the ones of you perhaps were even worse. you've received abuse on the most astonishing level. you've been painted out to be the devil, the witch, really. i mean, you know, you've been painted out to me. i'm just all awful. you're evil . that

all awful. you're evil. that must impact you and your family. >> so it's deeply unpleasant. and even this year, i've had people try to assault me as well. when i've been going about my daily business, you know, just going to work at the end of the day, you know, when you're a pubuc the day, you know, when you're a public figure, a public servant, and to my work. so and i'm dedicated to my work. so it's a rough game. it is difficult. but, you know, i also try protect my family from try and protect my family from that. that get that. and the people that get very upset about clearly, my very upset about it. clearly, my husband and, you know, mum very upset about it. clearly, my husldad and, you know, mum very upset about it. clearly, my husldad inld, you know, mum very upset about it. clearly, my husldad in particular,yw, mum very upset about it. clearly, my husldad in particular,ywdon't�*num and dad in particular, i don't like that. i really don't. but you know, it's not acceptable. it acceptable. but it is simply not acceptable. but you're tough, but also public. you know, public discourse is just really degenerate in some pretty we've seen we've seen you in out of government i >> -- >> and at some point in time, we'll see you back in government, i expect again. and thank you joining thank you for joining us. >> you. thank you. nice >> thank you. thank you. nice thank much. thank you so much. >> now, now. well done. british here they come. we're in their home county of essex . we've got

home county of essex. we've got and sperling to essex boys, take it away . this sister is tight it away. this sister is tight enough security. >> they found out that there's a spy >> they found out that there's a spy in their commune city. i always feel like somebody watching me . watching me. >> i'm telling off. i'm g. oh, i always feel like the china's watching me . mine is through the watching me. mine is through the flags. but we're not going back because nothing looks as good as a union. >> jack britain . yeah, we're at >> jack britain. yeah, we're at the albert hall . the albert hall. >> we'll fly our flag with pride. so you . all hey, hey, hey pride. so you. all hey, hey, hey . died you says it's just how it is . the . died you says it's just how it is. the spying on us. it's

nothing to says just sit as it is . rishi nothing to says just sit as it is. rishi sunak, please wake up. it's nice. just always on the boat. nice >> you says another potential china nine. we just don't have any leadership from our government to says where are we? >> he's not you for. us the temperature's rising . the temperature's rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. as we go through tonight and into tomorrow, we are going to see those strong winds in the north easing, allowing for a little bit of a chilly night for some of us.

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europe. you're app will send their migrants to us who knew that the solution to the migrant crisis was to let in more migrants as the house of lords, once again defeats the government on nutrient neutrality. what does this mean for the housing market? surely, surely , in a time of housing surely, in a time of housing crisis, we need to make it easier to build houses. well as it happens, house prices are down uk estate agents down as uk estate agents announced gloomiest period announced the gloomiest period since 2008. but nobody wins in a race to the bottom is britain's metropolis destined for vehicular dystopia under siddiq's tyranny? well the largest extension of 20 mph zones has been launched covering yet another 40 miles as there's nothing quite as enfeebling as being overtaken by a bicyclist or e—scooter . but that is where or e—scooter. but that is where we are headed and in a breach potential of the treason act. 1534 scottish football fans have booed the national anthem. it's theirs as well as ours, prompting calls for the rousing words to be changed. but surely this is grounds for prosecution. i'll be debating a republican

live in the studio . so state of live in the studio. so state of the nation starts now . the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by a malicious panel this evening, contributing editor to novara media, michael walker, and the former brexit party mep vernon rees—mogg , to whom i may share rees—mogg, to whom i may share some relation . as always, as you some relation. as always, as you know, i want to hear from you. it's the most important part of the programme. email me gb the programme. email me at gb news dot com. but now it's time for the news of the day with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> jacob thank you . well, good >> jacob thank you. well, good evening to you. around 1 in 7 brits were told and are waiting for routine treatment from the nhs in england. new figures show 7.68 million people are currently on the waiting list. there's also been a rise in waits of over a year and more