why their many are questioning why their elderly loved ones were administered. the drug, particularly during the pandemic. i'm joined by andrew bridgen, mp for reclaim uk and also by emma, who believes her dad died as a result of midazolam. i'll also be speaking to general practitioner dr. malcolm kendrick in the search for answers . and finally, we'll for answers. and finally, we'll be talking about an 8500 year old stilted village dated to many, many millennia before the birth of christ. that's been discovered submerged in a lake near greece with some remarkable engineering and interesting defence mechanisms . i'll be defence mechanisms. i'll be joined by a professor researcher , the lost town, to learn more about the extraordinary find. all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news from ray addison . latest news from ray addison. >> thanks, neal. our latest stories this hour. the actor and

comedian russell brand has been accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse . that's and emotional abuse. that's according to a report in the times . now, he's denied the times. now, he's denied the allegations and is due to perform in london this evening. how a national reporter , theo how a national reporter, theo chikomba has been outside wembley park theatre . wembley park theatre. >> comedian and actor russell brand took to his twitter or profile and youtube, where he has millions of subscribers highlighting some letters he's received from the mainstream media. gb news now understands that this was from the channel 4 program dispatches and the sunday times, which they highlight a number of allegations from four women which allegedly took place . which allegedly took place. between 2006 and 2013 when he was a presenter on radio two and an actor in hollywood films. now he's gone on to say he strenuously denies these allegations and refutes them , allegations and refutes them, but he is due to perform at this theatre in north london this

evening, where some are still expecting him to attend . and in expecting him to attend. and in other news, american xl bully dogs will not be culled . dogs will not be culled. >> now, that's despite the prime minister's promise to ban the breed by the end of the year. the uk's top vet says an amnesty will be in place for those who already own the animals. if they follow certain rules. a similar approach was taken in the 1990s when pit bulls were banned. conservator mp kit malthouse told us owners need tougher consequences . consequences. >> we absolutely have to deal with irresponsible owners and, you know, a decade ago or so more we campaigned also for greater consequences for owners . the sentencing was raised . i . the sentencing was raised. i think you can get up to 14 years of your dog, kill somebody. right. so we that is absolutely part of the mix. but we have to recognise there are certain types of dog that are more capable than others of inflicting harm and damage . inflicting harm and damage. >> meanwhile , a man who was >> meanwhile, a man who was arrested in connection with a

fatal dog attack in staffordshire has been released on conditional bail. ian price, who was 52, died after he was attacked by two dogs believed to be xl bullies. attacked by two dogs believed to be xl bullies . police say a 30 be xl bullies. police say a 30 year old man from the lichfield area has been interviewed and has been released pending further enquiries . the second further enquiries. the second teenage boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder after 14 year old nathaniel shani was fatally stabbed in manchester. the two boys, aged 13 and 14, are now in custody . police were are now in custody. police were called to the incident last night on tavistock square. greater manchester police have imposed a section 60 order, which gives them greater stop and search powers until this evening . now, police searching evening. now, police searching for a missing ex—british soldier have been informed by ukraine authorities that they found a body. 36 year old daniel burke from south manchester was reported missing on the 16th of august. his family had not heard from him and believed that he'd

travelled to ukraine. greater manchester police is working to carry out a formal identification and bring his remains back to the uk. identification and bring his remains back to the uk . thefts remains back to the uk. thefts and verbal abuse in shops have increased by 25% over the last 12 months. the federation of independent retailers say the rising cost of living is causing an increase in the shoplifting of everyday products such as tinned food. the group also says social media trends are encouraging young people to post videos of themselves stealing on sites such as tiktok . it comes sites such as tiktok. it comes after the john lewis boss described rising rates of shoplifting as an epidemic. well, a man has been arrested in the royal mews area next to buckingham palace . scotland yard buckingham palace. scotland yard saying that officers respond after a person climbed the wall earlier this morning. a 25 year old was detained outside of the stables. he's been arrested on suspicion of trespassing on a protected site and taken into custody. police say at no point did the man enter buckingham

palace. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to . now let's get straight back to. neil she she is dead. >> the girl who wanted to live in defiance of a rare genetic condition, the girl who fought in the end to live in defiance of nhs doctors and a judge who declared and ruled that she should just lie down and die is gone now. we were not and are not allowed to know her name. her grieving family are still barred by the court that condemned their daughter to death from naming her in public. we have been allowed to know her only as street, which is coincidentally shorthand for saint. saints are remember , long saint. saints are remember, long after they are gone . this is after they are gone. this is where we are now . a sovereign where we are now. a sovereign individual says she wants to live. asks the state to help her

stay alive. makes clear her intention to exercise her god given free to will seek potentially life saving treatment elsewhere to psychiatry . listened to the 19 psychiatry. listened to the 19 year old while she lived and concluded that she was of sound mind and able to make her own decisions regarding her treatment. other sovereign individuals stood ready to help the girl to finance her proposed trip to canada for experimental treatment . despite all that, in treatment. despite all that, in sullen defiance of all that nhs doctors decided her unwillingness to accept her death was inevitable made her delusional. everyone's death is inevitable. are we to accept that each one of us is delusional? if we seek to fight death? every inch of the way? a judge agreed. st was deluded and the die was cast. now she is dead as prescribed by the state. this is where we are now confronted at every turn by an overmighty overweening state that has assumed the ultimate power over sovereign individuals. some where along

the line at some point most of us overlooked, myself included . us overlooked, myself included. sovereign britain was subverted or otherwise replaced by corporate britain, in which a board of corporate types assumes the authority to make all decision on our behalf. i say this is unlawful in every way that matters. it's also monstrous and just plain wrong . monstrous and just plain wrong. wrong. too few people know remember far less celebrate what it is to be sovereign. we're not taught any of this at school, which is hardly surprising given the recent context. but the truth is that we are born sovereign and to be sovereign is to have absolute authority over our own bodies . we are subject our own bodies. we are subject to the common law of the land which we break only when we harm others or damage their property, steal what is not ours, or behave fraudulently in our deaungs behave fraudulently in our dealings with others. every other attempt by the state to interfere with our freedom to go about our lives unmogliche

tested is the stuff of statute , tested is the stuff of statute, which is the legislation acts and bills drawn up and passed by parliament. legislation has power over us only if we consent to it . the rules power over us only if we consent to it. the rules and power over us only if we consent to it . the rules and regulations to it. the rules and regulations defined by statute are said in dictionaries of law to acquire the force of law only, only when we grant our consent. the force of law only, only when we grant our consent . a fact of we grant our consent. a fact of being sovereign is that if we withhold or withdraw our consent, that is the end of the matter. and deep down where the state and all its little wizards would prefer we did not look. the state knows this too. over and over again it has been necessary to pull the state up by the scruff of its scrawny neck and remind it of the limits of its power and to have it acknowledge instead the supreme power of the sovereign individual. magna carta was the consequence of one of those times when an overmighty king had to be reminded that, like

everyone else, he was subject to the law of the land. king john wriggled on that hook, but it was swallowed deep. parliament would prefer magna carta did not exist, but it does exist and always will. and it burns the state like holy water thrown in a demon's face. if the state could destroy magna carta, unmake it , then it surely would. unmake it, then it surely would. the state seeks to dismiss it to paper over it, to distract us and have us look the other way to persuade us. the great charter's power is gone long ago. like that of a battery run flat, but deep down, the state knows the law of the land. still thrums with power over them. the fact, the inconvenient truth is that the law of the land is older than parliament. magna carta , which only restated and carta, which only restated and reaffirmed the ancient common law law, was sealed before parliament even existed, and so is literally beyond parliament's remit. the unwritten

constitution for which magna carta speaks is likewise out of parliament's reach. the law of the land just is . we all know, the land just is. we all know, without having to be told that it's wrong to kill, to do harm, to steal , to lie. parliament to steal, to lie. parliament government, the state are no more and no less than creation's of human beings. that which is created by human beings stands beneath human beings , is beneath human beings, is subordinate to human beings, serves and does not rule. human beings . remember that too, when beings. remember that too, when talk turns to artificial intelligence as the various types in the state know, the inalienable rights of people are constant. as the north star. many of the state's minions may have chosen to forget as much. plenty of parliament wizards are like so many other people, genuinely unaware of the truth of the law. lack of knowing is of the law. lack of knowing is of no significance , as the truth of no significance, as the truth is the truth , whether it's known is the truth, whether it's known or not. magna carta was the

restating of truth restating of the common law that by the time of the sealing of that charter was old, beyond the reach of memory . the nuremberg code born memory. the nuremberg code born in the dark shadow of world war ii and all its attendant horrors , was another time when some people had to be reminded of that which is true, which is that which is true, which is that the individual, every individual is sovereign, having absolute authority over his or her flesh and blood, and that nothing , nothing at all her flesh and blood, and that nothing, nothing at all might be done to a sovereign individual against their will without their consent . the code is primarily consent. the code is primarily for the attention of physicians . and point number one, states quote, the voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential . the human subject is absolutely essential. this means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent, should be so situated as to be able to exercise as free power of choice without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress , force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior

or form of constraint or coercion. the nuremberg code is not binding in a legal sense, but which decent human being would dispute the thinking and intent at the heart of its matter ? and how much of the matter? and how much of the nuremberg code was ignored dunng nuremberg code was ignored during the covid debacle? how much is still being ignored while i speak these words ? there while i speak these words? there is much debate over whether or not the state uses what are called legal fictions to gull us into submitting to its legislation. there are those who argue that our birth certificates and the registering of our births are part of a legal process. legal and not lawful by which a corporation is created in each of our names. as appears on our birth certificate. and then by the process of the register of the birth that corporation is handed off to the state to do with as it pleases. that legal fiction has been described as being like an overcoat tailored by the

state and offered to each of us for wearing if we adorn the coat. the thinking goes, we unwittingly accept the rules of the game the state is playing. be that as it may, entertain the speculation about legal fictions and straw men or don't. but the fact remains that the power of the state a creation of man over any of us, is only that which any of us, is only that which any of us consents to give. and yet the 19 year old girl is dead now without her consent . and now without her consent. and despite her spoken determined action to fight for life . this action to fight for life. this is where we are now , and this is is where we are now, and this is why i ask whether it's time for the call for change that is described by some as revolution . last week i put a couple of lines on social media. wonder if anyone else was thinking about revolution. last time i checked, each of the messages had been viewed over a million times. i've been contacted by people from all over the west saying

their thoughts chime with mine . their thoughts chime with mine. and i hear, especially from american eyes, looking on in desperation while their country floods from the south with millions of newcomers of unknown provenance and intent . i live in provenance and intent. i live in a world of unanswered questions. i want to know the truth of the products pushed as vaccines . i products pushed as vaccines. i want to know how many people were killed or hurt by those products. i want to know why hundreds more people are dying every day in this country than might have been estimated based on previous years . that's the on previous years. that's the equivalent of an unexplained passenger plane crash every day . why are those people dying ? i . why are those people dying? i want to know what happened in the care homes into which vulnerable elderly people were herded from their hospital beds. so many died, many alone. and in circumstances of abject misery . circumstances of abject misery. i want to know exactly how those elders died. i know that many of their loved ones want to know those details too. yet again, we have plainly reached a point

when the state must be reminded who is in charge, which is to say we are in charge . the say we are in charge. the sovereign individuals of this land , and this is where we are land, and this is where we are now in the west at. the state is making no secret of the further powers it would award itself. fantasising about kicking down our doors and stamping on our lives . but we are sovereign lives. but we are sovereign people in sovereign nations watching the day by day reality of a corporate takeover of our very existence and authority over our lives , our way of life, over our lives, our way of life, unlawfully assumed by corporations . corporation. corporations. corporation. there's another word worth paying there's another word worth paying attention to . it means to paying attention to. it means to make or fashion into a body a whole composed of united parts . whole composed of united parts. if a corporation isn't a franken stein's monster that unhappy worthiest of creations and capable of inflicting terrible harm upon those it has come to despise, then i don't know what is. here's the thing i have no interest in pitchfork and flaming torches. the killing of people and the destruction of property and infrastructure are

the activities of government and the activities of government and the state. and i want no part of that. what i do want is to talk about the need and desire for change felt by millions, many millions . i change felt by millions, many millions. i say every change felt by millions, many millions . i say every politician millions. i say every politician who pushed lockdowns mandates and experimental medical procedures , not to mention the procedures, not to mention the net zero suicide note might usefully be walked out of the palace of westminster and sent home. we're past the time when reform was possible , and it's reform was possible, and it's time now for something new and something clean . is it just me something clean. is it just me or is there something in the wind . wind. that's just me, of course . you that's just me, of course. you can disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming through the show. you can email gb views at gb news, .uk. and you can tweet me at gb news. and i'll try and get to comments later in the show. i'm joined now by

broadcaster and lawyer andrew eborn. what do you make of it all, andrew? well, i certainly not just you, neil, as your call to arms, if you like , for let's to arms, if you like, for let's start a revolution was clearly evident for fundamental human right is the right to choose, isn't it the right to life ? isn't it the right to life? >> and what happens with that life? and it's always very difficult with the medical profession we've become profession where we've become a nafion profession where we've become a nation experts, haven't we, nation of experts, haven't we, where of a sudden we're all where all of a sudden we're all virologists work on that virologists and we work on that sort basic we're all sort of basic we're all constituted analysts on constituted analysts and so on and forth. reality is and so forth. the reality is this we're drowning in a sea of disinformation and the more it's a very diseased information disinformation and the more it's a ve we'rezased information disinformation and the more it's a ve we're living nformation disinformation and the more it's a ve we're living in)rmation disinformation and the more it's a ve we're living in and tion disinformation and the more it's a ve we're living in and we're that we're living in and we're right it. and the right to question it. and the more that people try to shut down those questions, the more that festers suspicion. that it festers suspicion. >> what do you think of my fund mental and i'm not mental contention? and i'm not alone saying that the alone in saying it, that the institute upon which we have depended seem to me so corrupted, so captured by ideology , that they cannot be ideology, that they cannot be cleaned out and reformed and that we have, however difficult, no option but to start again.

>> it's very difficult, isn't it? and i've spoken beforehand about this that basically trust comes in on foot and leaves on horseback. and the more you see these institutions basically abusing that trust, the less trust that there is. so we're very suspicious . yes. and we very suspicious. yes. and we have a vacuum of information. our questions are not being answered. and as a result of it, conspiracy theories are rife. what we need to do is sit down with the experts and the different experts all the time. and basically try get to the and basically try to get to the bafic and basically try to get to the basic sort of fundamental answers. >> i fundamentally question when you evoke the thought of conspiracy theories because it's so pejorative , if i fundamental so pejorative, if i fundamental only believe that it is simply people asking legitimate questions of an based on legitimate research , and because legitimate research, and because it runs counter to an official narrative, it's dismissed as conspiracy theory. i mean, you could you could you could raise the spectre of jfk's assassination, which for the longest time was the original.

it was the original conspiracy theory that it was what had happened there was other than the lone shooter. and yet, broadly speaking, that is in the pubuc broadly speaking, that is in the public domain , the lone shooter public domain, the lone shooter . and so conspiracy theory is a is a completely devalued notion and deliberately so, isn't it? >> your turning around if people want to dismiss an argument, all they is they rubbish it with they do is they rubbish it with words. you're absolutely words. and you're absolutely right. demeans right. conspiracy theory demeans whatever they might be. whatever argument they might be. and legitimate and there are legitimate concerns that should be answered. so i think you're right. let's look at those conspiracy theories let's conspiracy theories and let's rebrand you like, and rebrand them, if you like, and say, if they're say, look, if they're genuine concerns , then we should look at concerns, then we should look at it. and i think any question thatis it. and i think any question that is unanswered by the relevant experts is, is something we should look at. >> obviously , i raise i raise >> obviously, i raise i raise openly the notion of revolution and people will say have all sorts of connotations that they attach to that word. but by it, what i mean is that we need something new. do you do you

agree or do you think we can reform what we've had? >> i think we need to get trust back with everybody. we need to have sensible discussions at the moment, what's happening and people are sort of working in a vacuum where they confirm their own people are own prejudices and people are being on both sides . being alienated on both sides. >> we need is sensible >> what we need is sensible discussions where the discussions where you get the experts in who set out the evidence in evidence as you would do in a court and give us those court of law and give us those facts. i'm not a doctor. i don't know the right prescription, the right right right medication, the right treatment what i do treatment for people. what i do know people have know is that people who have suffered result are not suffered as a result are not getting the answers they deserve. >> what you do know is what you want to know. yes and are want to know. yes and you are entitled answers the entitled to have answers to the questions we're entitled to questions we're all entitled to answers you are, and we're answers that you are, and we're entitled to question everything. >> break already, after which. >> well, questions about the use of midazolam, i'll be joined by andrew mp for reclaim andrew bridgen, mp for reclaim uk and by a lady who believes her father died after being administered the drug. we'll talk as well. at the same time , talk as well. at the same time, for balance to a gp and we'll

all be in search of answers. i'll be back

it doesn't really it doesn't wash with me. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back to neil oliver live. now, have you heard of the drug imidazole lamb midazolam was and is used as part of what is called end of life care. precisely how and why it was prescribed during the past three years has preoccupied the minds of many people. those whose loved ones were given midazolam in care homes especially want to know and why the know more about how and why the decision prescribe decision was taken to prescribe that . joining me now to air that drug. joining me now to air the topic is reclaim uk mp andrew bridgen and also emma, who questions the part played by midazolam in her dad's death. thank you both for joining midazolam in her dad's death. thank you both forjoining me. thank you both for joining me. thank you both for joining me. thank you, andrew. if i can come to you, first of all, what is it that you are being asked about midazolam and by whom? >> well, i have concerns, neal. i'm one of the mps who voted in 2014 to get rid of the liverpool care pathway as being harmful

and unsuitable and in april 2020, matt hancock and the nhs authorised engine . nice authorised engine. nice guideline 163, which since then relatives who've lost their parents and loved ones have come to me and said they believe those guidelines as the prescription of midazolam , a prescription of midazolam, a morphine, a respiratory suppressant to people who were already suffering depressed respiration and that it accelerated or caused their death. i held an event in june where 70 bereaved relatives came and a lot of them had a chance to give very harrowing accounts of their experiences of their relatives , end of life in relatives, end of life in hospital and the government don't seem to want to talk about it. i wrote to the government reasonably, i thought, some reasonable questions. one of them was how many elderly, vulnerable people were moved out of hospital homes to of hospital into care homes to make for the expected make way for the expected first wave of covid patients in early

2020? and how many of those had sadly died within seven days? 14 days? 28 days? 56 days, etcetera? of a covid 19 be other causes and the government wrote back and said they don't hold that data. so they're telling me they have no idea who they moved out of hospital and what happened to them, which seems extraordinary. very extraordinary. very extraordinary. and emma is here to her story about her to tell her story about her father . and unfortunately, father. and unfortunately, i've heard far too many of these stories over the last 12 months. >> emma, if i can come to you, what is the story that you would like to be more widely known about your dad? >> well, first of all, neal, i'd like to thank you so much for taking opportunity have taking this opportunity to have me i'm here representing all me on. i'm here representing all the people who haven't had a voice so far and this is the story about my dad . i've written story about my dad. i've written it in a note form because it's obviously a very emotional subject for he was an subject for me. he was an extremely fit 83 year old, 84 when he died. he loved walking. he he lived for life . if he did

he he lived for life. if he did sport, he his entire life, the year beforehand, we went to the lake district and we climbed scafell, which took us seven hours that christmas time, 2019, he outdanced everybody at the community centre, everybody was just loving it. he just had such a fantastic afternoon when it came to looking for a care home in the january. came to looking for a care home in the january . it was really in the january. it was really important to us that we sourced a home that could cater for his activity. so that he could remain in his walking groups and that and they assured us that he could. he wanted to remain active and keep on about his daily routines during his time there, which was ten months, he inexplicably deteriorated . by inexplicably deteriorated. by the 2nd of december 2020, i went to see him and i was absolutely heartbroken and shocked. i'd seen him three times that year and this time this man who'd been walking could outwalk anybody . he was wheeled out in a anybody. he was wheeled out in a wheelchair. he was absolutely

slumped down with his head, just fallen , and he was wheeled fallen, and he was wheeled towards me and i was sat there and he lifted his head up, which was really difficult . and he saw was really difficult. and he saw me trying to lift his arms. and the assistant manager said , no, the assistant manager said, no, jack, sit down. you know, you're not allowed to hug anybody and wheeled him straight past me . wheeled him straight past me. and i was in absolute devil station at that point . and this station at that point. and this this to me was it took about ten months for this to happen. and to me, this he looked heavily sedated . and i made it clear the sedated. and i made it clear the next day when i rang up, i made a complaint and i said, what have you done to him? he looks heavily sedated . i was expecting heavily sedated. i was expecting a call back, but i didn't get a call back from anybody until all his main carer actually gave me a call and i wasn't expecting her and i got on really well with this particular lady and i really felt that she was trying to tell me something because out

of the blue she said, emma, i really hate to say this, but your dad's very, very ill and he needs to be in hospital . and i'm needs to be in hospital. and i'm going to be really honest with you. i don't think he's going to make christmas now, this was this was the 4th of december. and i didn't know how to take that bit of news. i mean, it's not the sort of thing that you take lightly. and i don't think it's the sort of thing that she would have said lightly over the telephone if she didn't knew it to be true. also said it's to be true. she also said it's been pleasure after been a pleasure looking after him she'll him . he him and that she'll miss him. he got transferred to a hospital the following day on the 5th of december, but this wasn't even the hospital that he's used to be going it was a completely be going to. it was a completely different hospital, miles different hospital, all 27 miles away . and the pathway that i'm away. and the pathway that i'm going to tell you about a little bit later, this is where that pathway was created. the following week. they wouldn't let me in at all, despite all my efforts . i kept told i kept efforts. i kept told i kept getting told no, he's not end of

life. he's not dying . but i kept life. he's not dying. but i kept thinking his carer wouldn't have just said that, you know , they, just said that, you know, they, they wouldn't let me come in. and then they kept using this word agitated. he's in for agitation , ian. and i'm like, agitation, ian. and i'm like, why do you get sent to hospital with agitation ? it just didn't with agitation? it just didn't make sense. and they stuck to it over and over. and finally, after about a week of trying to get into with my dad, i spoke to a sympathetic nurse on. by now, this was the 11th of december who agreed that i could finally come and dad. he said, come in and see my dad. he said, i think it will good for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thi ik it will good for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think ll good for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think it good for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think it will|ood for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think it will bet for you come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think it will be good'ou come in and see my dad. he said, i thii think it will be good for and i think it will be good for him. i was absolutely shocked when him even worse than when i saw him even worse than before . before. >> what part at what point do you midazolam was playing you think midazolam was playing a part in what was happening with your dad? >> didn't at that point >> i didn't know at that point anything his speech had completely gone. his mouth was covered in blood. his jaw was just rolling around. he had bumps and scratches all over the place where he'd had lots of falls. and that's a specific with a lot of those types of

medications because they affect your central nervous system . so your central nervous system. so he'd a lot of falls , so he he'd had a lot of falls, so he had bumps and scratches, a bit of a broken nose, black eyes. he was state and also was in a terrible state and also ten kilograms lighter as well . ten kilograms lighter as well. and have had a huge and that would have had a huge effect on the medications that they gave him in next couple they gave him in the next couple of . of days. >> can i just can i just pause you there while i bring in the doctor? because i think it's i think it's appropriate that we bnngin think it's appropriate that we bring in dr. malcolm kendrick. gp you know, you're you're listening to this, dr. kendrick can i just segway, bring, bring in your contribution at this point, how, how were elderly people in care homes being treated where gp's readily admitted during the time of lockdown to see patients face to face? >> well lots of doctors didn't go in to see people face to face. i worked in a number of care homes and also in working with the elderly and so approximately 36 of people that i was involved in did die of

what was probably covid. but but yes , quite often during this yes, quite often during this situation , when a lot of people situation, when a lot of people were prescribed things without necessarily being seen by the gp. so that that would be the case. yeah >> so, so it wasn't , it wasn't >> so, so it wasn't, it wasn't necessarily the case that as one might expect in the case of the care of a loved one, that a gp was intrinsic to that process , was intrinsic to that process, that that treatment was being administered by, by people who weren't general practitioners . weren't general practitioners. >> well it would normally well certainly we didn't go in, they would have been communicate with sometimes over zoom calls or whatever. so there would have been a decision made by our doctor somewhere that the patient was approaching end of life . um, and that therefore if life. um, and that therefore if they could put them onto the what i call the end of life medications, that would be a medical decision. sorry, it must surely take a great deal of wisdom, you know, to be looking

at an elderly patient who , let's at an elderly patient who, let's say has a respiratory ailment that's making it hard for that person to breathe . person to breathe. >> how do you how would a decision be made about whether or not to treat that person and keep them alive or , on the keep them alive or, on the contrary, to prescribe a combination of drugs, including midazolam, which suppress breathing ? breathing? >> yeah, well, i mean, these are difficult decisions. they are very tricky things, obviously, because you're at a stage where you're saying to relatives is that we believe that , you know, that we believe that, you know, your loved one is actually getting worse, is not going to recover, and therefore , we need recover, and therefore, we need to try and make them as comfortable as possible. you wouldn't necessarily be put on midazolam . you would be it would midazolam. you would be it would be what they call a, you know, a drug. if someone did become agitated terribly agitated, they would be given midazolam. that was the case before covid. it's still the case. i mean, i still see elderly people who reach a point where you think this

person is, if you like, within days of probably dying . and we days of probably dying. and we withhold withdrawal , kind of the withhold withdrawal, kind of the standard treatment . but, you standard treatment. but, you know, the midazolam is widely it's still widely used . i mean, it's still widely used. i mean, but it's always used. i mean, if someone was being given it months and months before their death, that, you know, obviously i can't comment because i can't because i don't know the case. but would thinking that but you would be thinking that is probably premature if that was happening . you know, and as was happening. you know, and as andrew bridgen said , at the end andrew bridgen said, at the end of life, the liverpool care pathway was got rid of, but at the end of life pathway, which i don't like, calling it a pathway because it does sound a bit like you're on a path and it's a conveyor belt and it's almost get some people did see it that way. unfortunately the basic treatments given , if treatments that are given, if appropriate, are really just to try and make people as comfortable as possible. doctor ihave comfortable as possible. doctor i have to i have to just get to

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news radio. >> welcome back. we've been talking about midazolam and how it was used in care homes during the time of lockdown . andrew the time of lockdown. andrew bridgen, if i can come back to you, what is the key point that you, what is the key point that you feel needs to be made about this subject at this time? >> well, following concerns were raised me by my constituents raised to me by my constituents and done some and others. i've done some digging this and i spoke to digging on this and i spoke to a professor, sam ahmedzai, who he worked on the replacement for the liverpool care pathway . it the liverpool care pathway. it was nice guideline, 31 and he was a nice guideline, 31 and he has now retired, but he raised his concerns as a top palliative care expert about mg 163, which was bought in at the beginning of the covid pandemic, that it was dangerous as mg 163. i've sent you a copy of it. it says in do not be worried if of this use of midazolam and morphine being a respiratory suppressant,

even if the patient is already respiratory, suppressed . now, we respiratory, suppressed. now, we know from minutes in hansard of the health select committee meeting in early 2020 that matt hancock had already ordered all the midazolam and if it was only being used in normal usage for agitation , then you would have agitation, then you would have had to order a large amount of the antidote which has to be available, which can completely reverse the effect of midazolam flumazenil. there was no orders for that . this, this was for end for that. this, this was for end of life. mg 163 was replaced by it was only 24 pages. it was replaced by nice guideline 191 in march 2021, which is about 350 pages and midazolam is hidden in in the detail. there's a lot of questions to be asked about how and this is still going on today, neal. and i think anybody who's watching this programme has concerns about what happened to their relatives in care homes or in hospitals during the pandemic. they need to raise these issues

with their members of parliament, and we need to discuss this openly. there are too we too many topics at the moment we can't discuss the mother of can't discuss in the mother of all parliament. >> to be right to ask >> it's got to be right to ask those questions. we said at the top show, malcolm top of the show, doctor malcolm kendrick, about end of kendrick, he talked about end of life so on and so forth. and life and so on and so forth. and basically easing that sort of side to what extent you side to what extent will you consult informed consult it and kept informed that was the pathway? that that was the pathway? >> i wasn't informed at all. i get i kept getting told that he was agitated . this went on. so was agitated. this went on. so he went in on the fifth by the by the 14th, i was told to come back in because your dad is dying now after being told that he was agitated. he was brought in for agitation, too. suddenly he was dying. when i turned up, he was dying. when i turned up, he in a side room. he was he was in a side room. he was breathing so heavily and had breathing so heavily and i had to listen to that for 11, 12 hours. i'm later told that that's actually called air hungen that's actually called air hunger. and it was him literally struggling to breathe because of the midazolam that he'd been given when i'd obtained all the hospital records from the care home, the gp and the hospital,

it turns out that on the 4th of december that he was admitted the gp had had actually prescribed 2.5mg of midazolam syringe drivers and i wasn't told at all. on the ninth they started administering to him and that went on till the to the 14th and that's when he went into a coma and he started choking at about 5:00 in the morning. and i pulled the emergency alarm quickly because he'd been breathing so badly. the nurse runs in, runs straight out again, comes back in with a needle, injects him, didn't explain anything, and he died shortly after that. turns out from the medical records, it was midazolam and fentanyl in that in that in the last injection was all fentanyl . so that's was all fentanyl. so that's midazolam plus bear in mind, neal midazolam plus bear in mind, neal, this is midazolam is the drug that they use on death row to humanely kill, to sedate people before. but he was agitated. no it's the lethal injection in america. >> doctor. >> doctor. >> doctor. >> doctor kendrick, you're

listening to that. it's impossible to listen to that without feeling emotion. our our our people right. to be concerned and to be asking questions individually and collectively about the way in which the elderly were treated in care homes during the pandemic . pandemic. >> well, i absolutely . >> well, i absolutely. completely believe i mean, i, i have written and objected myself to the way that patients were sent out of hospital and into care homes who almost certainly did have covid and i was i was very vocal about this. and i think there was there were not enough staff in a lot of the care homes. they weren't properly supported. there was much that went on during this time that i do think we should be asking questions about. absolutely. and i'm certain that there will be individual cases as obviously they have to be looked into where people were not treated as well as they could be. i don't mean it's

always difficult to say this because you sound like you're saying your colleagues didn't treat people properly, but the situation very difficult situation was was very difficult . midazolam, when i when i when i say use it myself, i don't really tend to use it myself. but it's one of the drugs for the end of life . it would the end of life. it would normally be someone who is it would rarely be causing their breathing difficulty, although in some cases obviously it can and could. i think calling it a drug used in death row is kind of sort of ridiculous because , of sort of ridiculous because, yes, if you prescribe too much of anything, you're going to kill somebody with. >> but, but, but nonetheless. but nonetheless, that is that is another context in which that particular product is used . particular product is used. thank you. thank you, dr. kendnck. thank you. thank you, dr. kendrick. but emma, you're the heart of the story here tonight of obviously what where do you go from here and what question do you continue to demand an answer for? >> well, after i found out that he'd been on midazolam and fentanyl and that was the last things that he had, that that

killed him. and i saw him suffer rapidly trying to breathe and choking . it was horrendous. the choking. it was horrendous. the next document that i found was this, and this is called the use of appropriate chemical restraint in the management of agitated patients on general wards and in accident and emergency. within this document. it turns out that and this is my father's this was made for my father's this was made for my father made made in 2017 renewal, 20 20th november, three years before his death day . and years before his death day. and he was put on what's called a rapid tranquillisation pathway . rapid tranquillisation pathway. can you hear how horrendous that sounds ? rapid tranquillisation sounds? rapid tranquillisation now , when i equate that to what now, when i equate that to what happened during lockdown and how quickly he deteriorated , it'd quickly he deteriorated, it'd that makes total sense to me. but he and we didn't even know about his kidney situation until about his kidney situation until a year later than 2017. why was my dad put on this pathway and this pathway is literally the same as energy 163 and the

abolished liverpool care pathway. emma the question that you ask has to be left hanging in the air. >> i don't think any of us are able to answer it, but but thank you so much for, for coming forward with this. andrew again, thank you for, airing this thank you for for, airing this important and andrew as important topic and andrew as well. sorry, i'm not able to well. i'm sorry, i'm not able to come with you, but we'll back come with you, but we'll be back in the

welcome back . it's been a very welcome back. it's been a very emotional conversation that we've been having here about midazolam. andrew, still with me . andrew, what do . you what do . andrew, what do. you what do you make of that testimony ? you make of that testimony? >> i thought dr. kendrick was very measured. i was expecting a big fight between andrew and dr. kendrick. begs all kendrick. there wasn't begs all sorts and what sorts of questions. and what i love as you started the love about as you started the show, we sort of turned round and said, look, i don't

understand the procedure understand what the procedure is at we talk about at the moment. we talk about end of and basically of life and basically doctors are there to do no harm, but we need to know what the procedure is. i found shocking and is. what i found shocking and genuinely emma genuinely shocking is that emma sat i said, what sat there and i said, to what extent did you know what was going or were you given asked going on or were you given asked to and she said to give consent? and she said she told all. and all she wasn't told at all. and all that happened is she to see that happened is she went to see her slumped over and her relatives slumped over and it on for a very long it was going on for a very long penod it was going on for a very long period of time. that lack of communication station has obviously sorts of obviously created all sorts of issues and what issues along the lines. and what i about this show we try i love about this show is we try to more light and less to shine more light and less heat on the topics, but to do that, we need to continue the discussion. make sure we discussion. let's make sure we have conversations have further conversations with dr. because i thought have further conversations with dr. was because i thought have further conversations with dr. was very because i thought have further conversations with dr. was very amenable thought have further conversations with dr. was very amenable th say, |t he was very amenable to say, let's to this. he let's listen to this. he admitted everything had been admitted not everything had been done perfectly. yes. and let's work what problems work out what those problems are. part of the problem is communication. yes, we need to know circumstances this know in what circumstances this was what happens was prescribed and what happens as a result. >> i find very frustrating as a result. >> i i find very frustrating as a result. >> i felti find very frustrating as a result. >> i felt thati very frustrating as a result. >> i felt that andrew jstrating as a result. >> i felt that andrew bridgen and i felt that andrew bridgen articulated frustration articulated the same frustration that that he's obviously that i feel that he's obviously being spoken to by many people

who have simply got concerns to put, you know , to put it mildly, put, you know, to put it mildly, and that there has been an abiding atmosphere in which or don't talk about certain things, including the use and potentially the misuse of midazolam. but it's a subject that has to be aired. absolutely. and there's emma sitting there, one amongst i don't know how many andrew talked about 70 people that came to an event that needs to be put out into the sunlight where people can discuss it without a doubt. >> and we always talk. we get numbed by statistics. yes, but when you personify tragedy, that's when people sit up and take notice. and i think being brave and talking about her own personal journey and the tragic circumstance when she lost her own father brings it all to light. and i think those questions, what we need to is questions, what we need to do is continue that. and the continue examining that. and the trouble you start trouble is when you start clouding it in emotive words, i mean, brought mean, andrew has brought in all sorts comparisons in the past sorts of comparisons in the past which got him into trouble. i think the reality need to think the reality is we need to

ask without that ask the questions without that emotive language. if we can shine say, look, shine the light and say, look, this logical, help us this is very logical, help us make decisions, but make informed decisions, but tell procedures, then tell us these procedures, then we're be able to make we're going to be able to make informed decisions accordingly. and perhaps one of the most and it's perhaps one of the most emotive subjects for people and one of the most desperate experiences for so many people that they're loved ones in the most vulnerable of circumstances were of their reach. were out of their reach. >> yeah. this emma and others found themselves in situations where they knew that their loved ones were were struggling and weren't to be with them. weren't able to be with them. and that's a story that repeated and repeated and repeated with or without the presence and emphasises the grief and accentuates that as well . accentuates that as well. >> and in all due respect to the medical professionals, i'm sure that they wanted to do their best and trying to work out what is the way that they can do that. but we need to get clarity on both sides. there needs to be much better communication to make sense. make that make sense. yes >> where you think we to >> where do you think we need to go as as a as a community? go now as a as a as a community? >> i think we need to have

rational discussions in the way that we have. let's not george or not war, war and people just accusing each other. that doesn't really help. what we need to do is make sure we improve, communicate on improve, communicate actions on that i find it that sort of premise. i find it a huge relief. >> you know, i feel that that word midazolam out there and word midazolam is out there and i great in it, in i feel a great relief in it, in it, having been spoken tonight. but once again, andrew, we have run out of time. it from run out of time. that is it from me evening . thanks. me this evening. thanks. obviously to my guests, andrew bridgen, mp for reclaim uk to emma who spoke so emotively and so movingly about her dad to dr. malcolm kendrick and of course to andrew eborn for that insightful consideration . next insightful consideration. next up, it's the common sense crusade and i will see you next saturday that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. who of your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met

office? there's are increasing threats of some heavy and thundery showers as we move into the second half the weekend the second half of the weekend for saturday evening, though, generally the generally lighter showers on the cards southwest england. generally lighter showers on the cards generallyest england. generally lighter showers on the cards generally pushingand. generally lighter showers on the cards generally pushing towards wales generally pushing towards northern ireland into the early hours sunday morning. the hours of sunday morning. the cloud across the cloud building across the southern thirds of the uk. southern two thirds of the uk. so will relatively so there will be a relatively mild night particularly mild night here, particularly across the far south of england. high teens holding up, but across of scotland across the far north of scotland and chillier night, 2 to and much chillier night, 2 to 5 c and much chillier night, 2 to 5 c quite widely, not some 5 c quite widely, if not some frost rural spots . but cloud frost in rural spots. but cloud and rain will continue to steadily progress its way northwards. the northern isles, parts the highlands seeing parts of the highlands seeing a good sunshine, but parts of the highlands seeing a good start sunshine, but parts of the highlands seeing a good start to sunshine, but parts of the highlands seeing a good start to see ;unshine, but parts of the highlands seeing a good start to see ;unshirheavy we'll start to see those heavy thundery showers pushing into southern wales as southern england, wales as we head throughout day. some head throughout the day. some local disruption flooding is local disruption and flooding is possible . generally, possible. generally, temperatures will be a notch down compared saturday for down compared to saturday for the southeast thanks to an increased of but increased amounts of cloud. but maybe slightly higher for parts of and northern ireland of scotland and northern ireland into , this cold front into monday, this cold front will be swinging its way through behind we'll see some behind that, we'll see some fresher filtering in behind fresher air filtering in behind

it. quite muggy and it. so still quite muggy and mild it. eventually mild ahead of it. but eventually seeing conditions seeing those fresher conditions swing the cold front swing in. but on the cold front itself, really quite itself, again, really quite unsettled with heavy showers, thunderstorms and rain in the mixture and quite a blustery day for all of us on the whole, there's further unsettled weather as we head throughout the rest of the week as well. and low pressure looks like it will be staying in charge. enjoy the rest your evening by that the rest of your evening by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. >> proud sponsors of weather on

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be discussing the new series of married. at first sight, which features a couple of transgender contestants . i'm asking if this contestants. i'm asking if this is unfair on the other people taking part and if the show makes a mockery of marriage . makes a mockery of marriage. emma, what's your initial take? i think even though it came out recently that he was informed that the contestant was transgender before they got married, a consent married, there's still a consent issue might have been issue because he might have been afraid being labelled afraid of being labelled transphobic if had chose to transphobic if he had chose to pull out at that point. and laura, view? laura, what's your view? >> that fact that we >> i think that the fact that we have reality about have a reality tv show about marriage speaks about marriage speaks volumes about what marriage actually means in today's society. and reality tv shows are profoundly unethical . shows are profoundly unethical. i can't wait to talk more about that sound. >> okay. more of that after this. here is the news with ray addison . addison. >> thank you, father. our top stories this hour, the actor and comedian russell brand has been accused of rape , sexual assaults accused of rape, sexual assaults and emotional abuse. >> according to a report in the times, the alleged incidents