.so . so joining .so joining me . so joining me in the cancelled. so joining me in the next hour , broadcaster and next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. a few moments time hamilton. in a few moments time , we'll be head to head in , we'll be going head to head in a former a clash of minds with former adviser jeremy corbyn, james adviser to jeremy corbyn, james snyden adviser to jeremy corbyn, james snyder, also deputy editor snyder, and also deputy editor of myers . stay of spiked fraser myers. stay tuned. loads more still to come, but first, let's get your latest news headlines with ray addison i >> -- >> thanks, danny. good afternoon. it's 3:00. >> our top stories this hour. an urgent internal investigation into russell brand has been launched by the production company behind the big brother spin off shows that he hosted in the mid 2000. now warning the following footage contains flashing images. >> in a statement . >> in a statement. >> in a statement. >> bannau uk, which bought endemol in 2020, said it encourages anyone who was affected by russell brand's behaviour while working on its productions to contact them in confidence . it comes after the confidence. it comes after the comedian and actor was accused of rape, sexual assault and

emotional abuse in allegations aired by channel 4 dispatches programme and published in today's sunday times. russell brand has denied allegations of criminality and insisted that all of his relationships were consensual , all of his relationships were consensual, while media lawyer jonathan coe told us it's crucial that the allegations are examined . examined. >> good reporting outfits like you must be allowed to make allegations . you must be allowed to make allegations. germans you must be allowed to make allegations . germans say some allegations. germans say some hard things as we only have to think very far back. huw edwards, kevin spacey , both were edwards, kevin spacey, both were the subject of huge media assaults and both , it turns out, assaults and both, it turns out, are innocent . so these are very, are innocent. so these are very, very difficult questions as to the protection of people's reputation on one hand and the right of free speech on another . sir keir starmer says claims that labour wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are quote, complete garbage .

are quote, complete garbage. >> the labour leader had indicated that he'd be open to working with brussels on managing channel crossings, which may involve the uk taking some asylum seekers who've arrived in the eu. but it would be as part of a deal to return those who've crossed the channel. sir keir's comments come after minister rishi come after prime minister rishi sunak claimed that labour wanted the uk to become a dumping ground for migrants. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than her government would have done. the former prime minister will use a speech at the institute for government to defend her time in charge. nearly a year after the so—called mini—budget that led to the end of her premiership , to the end of her premiership, according to the telegraph, ms truss will point out that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved this year and next. wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads. the welsh

government saying that cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the nhs in wales. £92 million a year. the rac is warning drivers not to rely on satnavs for the correct speed limit and instead to follow the road signs . a 48 year old man road signs. a 48 year old man has been charged with attempted murder after a teenager was stabbed in sheffield city centre. the 14 year old boy was taken to hospital with serious injuries to his chest, which police believe took place near sheffield's town hall on tuesday. his injuries are not believed to be life threatening . the suspect will appear in court tomorrow . the death toll court tomorrow. the death toll in libya's coastal city of derna is now more than 11,000. a major storm left over 200 buildings partially damaged and almost 400 others submerged in mud . rescue others submerged in mud. rescue teams continue to search for survivors. more than 38,000 people have been displaced in the most affected areas in northeast and parts of the

country . and finally, if you country. and finally, if you think it's looking dark and stormy outside, you're not alone . the met office says half a month's rain could fall in the space of just an hour today. it's issued a yellow weather warning for thunderstorms across the south—west of england and south wales . a similar warning south wales. a similar warning has been issued for london, too, with a small risk of flash flooding. heavy rain was seen across the south of devon this morning with some localised flooding . this is gb news across flooding. this is gb news across the uk on television in your car , on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to nana . thank you, ray. back to nana. thank you, ray. >> before we get stuck into our debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my panel, former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, and also deputy editor of spiked frazer miles . editor of spiked frazer miles. they'll be going head to head in a clash of minds in a few

moments time. but here's what else coming up on the show. else is coming up on the show. has media itself has the media deemed itself judge, executioner for judge, jury and executioner for the about the latest revelations about russell brand? has again raised an age old question what's fair when stories and serious allegations criminality are allegations of criminality are raised through the media? i'll be speaking to lawyer and writer stephen barrett very shortly and as we approach the one year anniversary of liz truss's mini—budget, the former prime minister has taken a broadside at rishi sunak claiming that he spent £35 billion more than she ever would . so were we right to ever would. so were we right to get rid of liz truss? is 20 miles an hour too slow? wales will soon find out the hard way as they become the first nation to drop the speed limit from 30 to drop the speed limit from 30 to 20. is this just another attack in the war on british motorists and then another day, another policy explosion for sir keir starmer, this time over private schools, as experts warn that labour's tax rate on private schools risks making education more elitist. now, that's coming up in this hour.

tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gb views. gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. well, it's tweet me at. gb news. well, it's fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. and of course , we're after 3:00. and of course, we're talking about the big story of the day . comedian and actor the day. comedian and actor russell brand. now, he has been accused of rape , sexual assault accused of rape, sexual assault and abuse . the and emotional abuse. the allegations were part of a joint investigation by the times and the sunday times and channel 4. one woman alleges that brand assaulted when was when assaulted her when she was when he was and she was 16. she he was 31. and she was 16. she described her relationship with him to channel four's dispatches programme . programme. >> he's like, sir, how many people have you had sex with? and i said , no one. i've never and i said, no one. i've never had sex with anyone . and he got had sex with anyone. and he got an erection straight away and he was like, oh, my god. he's like, my was like, oh, my god. he's like, my baby, my baby. and pick me up and cradled me in his arms like and cradled me in his arms like a child and was stroking my hair. and he's like, you're like my dolly . russell engaged

my little dolly. russell engaged in the behaviours of a groomer looking back on it, i didn't even know . know what that was even know. know what that was then or what that looked like. he would try to drive a wedge between me and my parents. taught me to lie to them . taught me to lie to them. >> well, of course , some people >> well, of course, some people may find some of that content disturbing. now, russell brand has denied all allegations in the video posted online amidst this litany of astonished , this litany of astonished, wishing rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that i absolutely refute. >> these allegations pertain to the time when i was working in the time when i was working in the mainstream, when i was in the mainstream, when i was in the newspapers all the time, when i was in the movies. and as i've written about extensively in my books, very, in my books, i was very, very promiscuous. during that in my books, i was very, very prom of uous. during that in my books, i was very, very prom of promiscuity,jring that in my books, i was very, very prom of promiscuity, the] that time of promiscuity, the relationship that i were relationship that i had were absolutely always consensual. i was always transparent about

that, then almost too transparent and i'm being transparent and i'm being transparent about it now as well i >> -- >> so putting the allegations against brand to one side, he's just the latest in a series of high profile celebrities who've been subject to media coverage of allegations about their behaviour over the past decade. we've seen the likes of jimmy savile, harvey weinstein and others exposed as criminals by the media. but some others, like kevin , have been accused kevin spacey, have been accused in and had their in the media and have had their reputation damaged before them being acquitted. and of course, there was the media circus which surrounded actors johnny depp and heard last year. and amber heard last year. a frenzy up globally by frenzy whipped up globally by the media trial by media in full swing. also, you had the thing with cliff richard as well, but there's by media risk there's a trial by media risk jeopardising a fair hearing for individuals, especially if the mainstream media and social media act as judge, jury and executioner . so media act as judge, jury and executioner. so joining to executioner. so joining me to discuss barrister and discuss this is barrister and writer at the spectator, stephen barrett. stephen thank you for joining me . now, what are the joining me. now, what are the potential issues with allegations being reported in

the media rather than going through the police and the justice ? justice system? >> yes. well, thank you for asking me that and everything i'm about to say has nothing to do with this individual. >> i don't think i've ever, ever seen anything this individual's beenin seen anything this individual's been in and in in the film, a man for all seasons , the saint, man for all seasons, the saint, sir thomas more makes this point. >> the point i'm going to make and the example he gives is the devil. so that's the worst type of sir moore of person that sir thomas moore could possibly imagine. literally satan and he says even satan deserves the protection of law. >> and this is true. >> and this is true. >> and this is true. >> and it's not necessarily the journalist themselves, but there was an immediate follow up to the times article, particularly on twitter , where seemingly on twitter, where seemingly otherwise respectable individuals were announcing that they believed the individual guilty. they were conducting a trial by media and a trial by media is to do that. >> you step outside the rule of law. >> you shatter law itself. it's

the greatest offence you can do to law. you're denying due process. it really is bad conduct. >> and frankly , i do link all >> and frankly, i do link all this back to what happened in parliament. they did voluntarily step outside the rule of law. >> but when you step outside the rule of law and i call it, it's like riding a tiger, it seems really fun. >> you're riding a massive man eating tiger and it's jolly fast. you're moving forward . fast. you're moving forward. it's eating people right in front of you, which is very exciting and dramatic . you've exciting and dramatic. you've got the illusion that you're in control of where the tiger goes and you're ignoring the fact that eventually you're going to fall off the tiger. >> and when you fall off the tiger, it's going eat you and tiger, it's going to eat you and every time humanity has stepped outside the rule of law, because humans this, human humans do this, human civilisation this quite civilisation has done this quite a of times. a lot of times. >> rope, spear , there was a >> rope, spear, there was a priest down in, in in italy who did this and ended up burned alive, having when he'd run out of people to burn alive himself.

when you step outside the rule of law , you are really of law, you are really shattering something that is very, very important to us. more important, probably than any individual concern . and it used individual concern. and it used to be in this country, and i think it is still a constitutional need that respectable people uphold the rule of law , that we don't risk rule of law, that we don't risk prejudicing future trials, because that's really important too. i mean, if individual x is guilty, i want them found guilty. and that's really important . guilty. and that's really important. but we do seem to increasingly and you raised it, you don't have to think back many weeks or months before the last time we did this. and if we keep doing it, it is going to cross a line and it's going to move from, you know , responsible move from, you know, responsible journalism trial by media journalism into trial by media and abandoning the rule of law. and it's just not a place i'll ever join you all. i'm going everjoin you all. i'm going i'll stay here in my in my law library with the rule of law, because it's not a safe place to be. >> so in your view, then, what

role should the media actually play role should the media actually play then in holding powerful people to account? because for example, the issue with jimmy savile was that the media wouldn't talk about it. the media have a really important role , and when people forget how role, and when people forget how our constitution works and they go on about you, but they go on about being three pillars of state, there aren't the media is a very important pillar of the state and the media works well when it works. >> hand in glove with the other pillars of the state. what we can't get to is a position where the media is working on its own. we have a justice system. we have a police system. we have a means of investigating these allegations and bringing them to justice. the media can work hand in glove with them as a respectable part of the constitution. that's that's why, incidentally , nana, there is incidentally, nana, there is a press gallery in inside the houses of parliament. that's an

admission that the press are important in our society. they're not i'm not saying they're not important , but what they're not important, but what followed on from the press activity . so perhaps we're not activity. so perhaps we're not even necessarily pointing at them yet. was the social media response. yeah. and this idea that you must march to be a morally good individual and in our society you must immediately declare this individual guilty. now, no , no, no, no, no, no. now, no, no, no, no, no, no. that's that's. you've stepped outside the rule of law. you've gone. you've gone somewhere very dark. i'm not going with dark. and i'm not going with you. not saying anyone's you. i'm not saying anyone's innocent. i'm defending due process and saying that it is valuable in itself. yeah >> and that is something that people should all respect, actually. and in your view, why do you think people will go to the media to air allegations like this or like any of the ones that we've spoken of before, rather than actually going to the police ? going to the police? >> well, humans will have infinite reasons for doing everything. >> and again, one of the ways that we are eroding due process

is to look at intention. you know, what was the intention that happened? we almost need to look past that . are the police look past that. are the police and authorities being involved? is important. question and then there's another important constitutional point. then we all shut up because we don't want to prejudice a future trial if there's to going be a future trial, it's constitutionally incumbent on us all to stay silent in order to make sure that a future jury is left inviolate and enabled and able to do its duty with with the facts it has. he is in a proper way, you know, that this is often thought of as a point of criminal law. it isn't. it's constitutional law. but in my area of law, because we rid area of law, because we got rid of juries, often worry about of juries, we often worry about it a lot less. we sort of have a view of, well, the judge can view of, oh, well, the judge can deal with this. you know, if there's few tweaks, the judge there's a few tweaks, the judge isn't read them. you isn't going to read them. you know, if there's a newspaper article, sway article, it's not going to sway article, it's not going to sway a court judge. and of a high court judge. and of course, and i accept course, it isn't. and i accept that. but it does mean that we sort treat this like a sort sort of treat this like a sort of criminal problem. not of criminal problem. it's not a

fundamental to the administration justice. and administration of justice. and the is the administration of justice is fundamental state. that's the administration of justice is fundwithout state. that's the administration of justice is fundwithout rule tate. that's the administration of justice is fundwithout rule ofe. that's the administration of justice is fundwithout rule of law, at's the administration of justice is fundwithout rule of law, you why without the rule of law, you know, close to state know, you get close to state collapse. that's that's what happened. is that bad? happened. it is it is that bad? i'm not being overly dramatic. in his speech , the in his famous speech, the fictional sir thomas moore, you know, says that when the devil turns on you, there will be a whirlwind. you know, if you've cut down. he uses the analogy, all trees of england keep all the trees of england keep you safe. the are planted you safe. the laws are planted like cut them all like trees. you cut them all down. you're not going to survive and is survive that world. and it is that dangerous. is that that dangerous. it is that risky. not fun. risky. it's not fun. >> stephen, thank risky. it's not fun. >> so stephen, thank risky. it's not fun. >> so forstephen, thank risky. it's not fun. >> so for your1en, thank risky. it's not fun. >> so for your insight.|k you so much for your insight. it's good talk to you it's really good to talk to you that barrett, he's that stephen barrett, he's a barrister a writer for barrister and a writer for the spectator which showed spectator, which you just showed me. is gb news for live on me. this is gb news for live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming 16 minutes after coming up to 16 minutes after 3:00, to with me 3:00, going head to head with me today, adviser to jeremy today, former adviser to jeremy corbyn, schneider and the corbyn, james schneider and the deputy editor of spiked fraser myers . my first i'm going to myers. my first i'm going to start with you, fraser. i mean, what do you what do you think about business, that what do you what do you think abou by business, that what do you what do you think abou by because ;s, that what do you what do you think abouby because i, that what do you what do you think abouby because i think trial by media? because i think , stephen makes a very , you know, stephen makes a very good we do this,

good point, that if we do this, then we end in situation then we end up in a situation where have found guilty where people have found guilty or before . actually, or innocent before. actually, the real point of being assessed . yeah, that's right. >> i think obviously it is completely legitimate for the media to air these allegations and to do these kinds of investigations . investigations. >> i think that's a very important of the press job important part of the press job in holding to in holding the powerful to account. a danger account. but there is a danger in a world where we say , you in a world where we say, you know, we must believe all women or, you know, in a kind of metoo climate where it's assumed that too many people are getting away with things that and they shouldn't, that we lose sight of the presumption of innocence, we lose sight of due process. now i really hope a legal process does kick off from this because sometimes when it is just allegations in the media, what you end up with is people are in a sort of limbo where they are declared guilty by the press or by you know, in the court of pubuc by you know, in the court of public opinion . public opinion. >> and they don't actually have the avenue to either clear their name or be properly punished. >> and mete out kind extra

>> and we mete out kind of extra judicial punishments on people nowadays. lose nowadays. you know, people lose their their their jobs, they lose their livelihoods. , when livelihoods. you know, when they're of tainted with they're sort of tainted with these that these allegations. i think that is serious problem. you is a serious problem. um, you know, like see these know, i'd like to see these allegations in court. know, i'd like to see these allegations in court . and allegations tested in court. and if they proved to be correct , if they proved to be correct, then for there to be punishment. >> schneider. >> james schneider. >> james schneider. >> think russell brand >> well, i think russell brand should specifically the should address specifically the allegations that have been put rather than sort of blank out a blanket denial. >> but that's beside the point of the wider issue, which is, yes , of course, the media is yes, of course, the media is extremely powerful and it has power . power. >> it has the power to set agendas. >> and so we should be we should have a slightly sceptical approach when we view it . but approach when we view it. but again, in this , you know, about again, in this, you know, about this case, it says that it's, you know , the headline is you know, the headline is something like hiding in plain sight. well then a lot of the media should also be looking at it at itself because as you know, you had a show on the bbc on channel 4, which has aired the documentary. so if we're if

part of the purpose of this investigation is to shine a light on the wider culture, that we had, that was pretty misogynistic and in lots of ways quite crude and unpleasant in the late noughties, let's say. then large parts of the media need to look at themselves as well. >> it's a it's a well, listen, of course, this this thing will carry on and we will keep an eye on it here on gb news. stay with us.loads on it here on gb news. stay with us. loads more still to come. but a bbc spokesperson said russell brand worked for a number of different organisations, of which the bbc was one. indeed the bbc has over successive years evolved its its approach to how it manages talent and how it deals with complaints or issues raised. we have clear expectations around conduct at work and these are set out in employment contracts and the bbc values the bbc code of conduct and the anti bullying and harassment policy . and of and harassment policy. and of course the channel 4 spokesperson said channel 4 is appalled to learn of these

deeply troubling allegations . we deeply troubling allegations. we have had found no evidence to suggest the alleged incidents were brought to the attention of channel 4. we will be asking the production company who produced the programmes for channel 4 to investigate these allegations as well. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, labour's plans to add vat to private schools in is under fire. could it just force thousands of children into state schools? we'll get stuck into that. but first, let's get an update with your weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. autumn certainly is in full swing over the next few days and even into the end of sunday. we've got some fairly hefty showers pushing their way across of england across parts of england and wales, moving wales, erratically moving

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ireland. and then that rain is going to spread its way into most throughout day. most areas throughout the day. the northeast southeast the far northeast and southeast probably some probably holding on to some of the conditions as further the driest conditions as further showers, though possible as we head wednesday head throughout wednesday and thursday . enjoy the your thursday. enjoy the rest of your day. bye. day. bye bye. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> coming up in labour run wales. speed limits in built up areas have been reduced from 30mph to just 20. this is very , 30mph to just 20. this is very, very slow, sparking controversy and anger amongst motorists. i mean, it's 20 too slow. but next, as we approach the year since liz truss mini—budget, truss has launched a broadside against rishi sunak , claiming against rishi sunak, claiming that he spent £35 billion more than she would ever have done. so were we right to get rid of truss so quickly? they go anywhere

thursdays from six till 930 . thursdays from six till 930. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's just coming up to 26 minutes after 3:00. now almost a year has passed since the infamous mini—budget, which was revealed by former prime minister liz truss and her chancellor kwasi kwarteng . now chancellor kwasi kwarteng. now the duo attempted to implement a high growth fiscal plan that featured the biggest package of tax cuts for 50 years, where the bafic tax cuts for 50 years, where the basic level of income tax was to be cut to £0.19, whilst the 45% higher rate was set to be abolished. but despite the

ambitious plans, the budget fell apart as the tax cuts were unfunded and pension funds were put at risk. after there was a massive sell off in gilts that was led to the pound crashing and leaving the economy in turmoil . so following ricci's turmoil. so following ricci's replaced the former prime minister with the tories right to get rid of liz truss . well, to get rid of liz truss. well, welcome again to my head to head as former advisor to jeremy corbyn. james snyder, also deputy editor of spiked fraser miles james, i'm to going start with you then. rishi hasn't appeared to have done such a brilliant job in terms of how much money he's spending. but do you think that perhaps truss you think that perhaps liz truss had idea ? was her had the right idea? was her direction right way ? direction the right way? >> no, wasn't. that doesn't >> no, it wasn't. that doesn't mean rishi sunak is doing mean that rishi sunak is doing the right thing at all either. and you know, you ask whether the conservative party right to get rid of it now, far be it from me to offer advice to the conservative but liz conservative party, but liz truss the was popular truss at the time was as popular as vladimir is in the uk, as vladimir putin is in the uk, not how popular? >> vladimir putin well, she won her party and she won her bid to

be prime minister. yes, she members. >> she won over the conservative party then had the disastrous mini—budget. millions of people are paying the price for how badly that was handled. so the conservative party got rid of her. conservative party got rid of hen her conservative party got rid of her. her basic ideas, which was we're in a crisis, let's double down and do what we've been doing. that's got us into this crisis more wasn't a good strategy . and it it didn't strategy. and it it didn't i mean, it plainly didn't work, but that doesn't mean the rishi sunak sort of. well, let's just sort of carry on ploughing this furrow that isn't working either . that doesn't mean that that's working . working. >> interesting phrase. himars >> interesting phrase. himars >> well, think it was >> well, i think it was inevitable that liz truss was going to go after the market reaction . reaction. >> i don't think that the mini—budget was to blame for the problems that britain has in its economy. i think it exposed a lot of the underlying problems. i think particularly the thing that finished her off the pensions issue , many of pensions issue, many of officials and things like the bank of england should have seen

coming. of people, there's coming. a lot of people, there's a of criticism that a lot of criticism that should be way rather than be sent their way rather than liz truss's way. >> but at the same time, you know, people were not prepared for the mini—budget that she unveiled. >> a lot of the measures that came out were discussed in came out were not discussed in the leadership contest . so the tory leadership contest. so when it arrived, you know , she when it arrived, you know, she didn't really have any support. >> have >> she didn't really have any support the public and the support among the public and the sort of tax cutting agenda . sort of tax cutting agenda. >> do you don't think so? i think a lot of people to think a lot of people wanted to cut lot of the cut taxes. i think a lot of the pubuc cut taxes. i think a lot of the public did support i think people support to their own taxes. >> i don't think people supported idea of supported the broader idea of cutting rate, things cutting the £0.45 rate, things like . i don't think that like that. i don't think that most people , you know, were most people, you know, were unnecessarily on side with her sort of more libertarian views . sort of more libertarian views. >> that's not to say that they couldn't be won but she couldn't be won over, but she never really the to case never really made the to case the that meant that the public. so that meant that when, know, she got in when, you know, she got in trouble she trouble with the market, she couldn't herself i >> -- >> she couldn't really explain what she was going to do to get things on track. now, as i said, i think mini—budget is i don't think the mini—budget is to problems in the economy.

>> and you see that that economy. >> .know, u see that that economy. >> .know, after see that that economy. >> .know, after thingsiat that you know, after things stabilised when rishi sunak came in, more mortgage have in, more mortgage costs have gone now gone back up again and now they're higher they were at they're higher than they were at they're higher than they were at the of the truss the height of the liz truss turmoil. so you can't blame her for everything. but i still think was fairly useless. think she was fairly useless. prime , about rishi prime minister, what about rishi sunak? prime minister, what about rishi suna mean in way i sort of >> i mean in a way i sort of blame rishi sunak for a lot of this he was he presided this because he was he presided as of exchequer as chancellor of the exchequer throughout of this, the throughout a lot of this, the penod throughout a lot of this, the period of the reign where period of the tories reign where we've found ourselves in this position. think liz truss position. so i think liz truss actually had the right idea. i think a lot of the public actually truss's actually did like liz truss's idea, the cut for the 45% was unpopular. it's popular unpopular. it's not popular badly. yeah, but it was unpopular. but i think generally people generally speaking, people generally speaking, people rich people don't think that rich people don't think that rich people too little money and people have too little money and need more of it. need to have more of it. >> that's not what she was >> but that's not what she was working on. >> premise that if you >> the premise that if you cut taxes, then you'll the taxes, then you'll increase the taxes, then you'll increase the tax a point tax take because there's a point where so high that where taxes become so high that in end end up rich. in the end you end up rich. >> none of the academic evidence suggests is anywhere near £0.45 so that, you know , that's an so that, you know, that's an ideological argument. it's not

an economic argument based in any data or academic study. >> well, i mean, i don't know. i beg to differ with that. i'll do find you some studies that show otherwise. mean, the laffer otherwise. i mean, the laffer curve, academic work curve, most academic work suggests that in the uk they reckon the laffer curve is around 55 or 56% of the income tax rate, i.e. substantial below 45. p okay. well you know, but, but the bottom line is though , but the bottom line is though, looking at how rishi sunak has conducted himself with his policies, think that and policies, do you think that and i you're from the i know obviously you're from the labour think that's labour side, do you think that's the direction of travel? the right direction of travel? because you look it, the because if you look at it, the labour party would probably be doing thing, worse, right? so mean , the last 13 years >> so i mean, the last 13 years have probably the worst. have been probably the worst. britain has been governed since we got universal franchise. it's been a whole litany of bad prime ministers bad chancellors, bad secretaries of state pursuing bad policies. short term, it's all a failure . so no, it's not all a failure. so no, it's not all a failure. so no, it's not all liz truss's fault and it's not all rishi sunak's fault, but they're all part of something where the chickens are coming to

home roost. you know, the, the rac scandal , the schools rac scandal, the schools that are fall you are going to fall down, you know, that's based in decisions that taken by george that were taken by george osborne. supported osborne. they all supported those . and this those policies. and this government . so now their only government. so now their only act is to pretend that they're new in some way. rishi sunak is new in some way. rishi sunak is new because he's not liz truss. liz truss was new because she wasn't boris johnson, but they're same they're all part of the same chain failure has left chain of failure that has left most people this country most people in this country worse off. >> think where liz truss does >> i think where liz truss does deserve some credit is in recognising know , the recognising that, you know, the scale of the economic hole we're in and that's something radical needed to change. and now at the moment unfortunately we have rishi sunak and jeremy hunt who are determined to take this kind of sort of steady as she goes policy, hope things will sort of clean up, hope the hope inflation will go down, hope that tax take comes up a bit that the tax take comes up a bit in time for the next election so they can show few tax cuts. they can show a few tax cuts. but there isn't really plan but there isn't really a plan for growth . there isn't a plan for growth. there isn't a plan for growth. there isn't a plan for transforming the economy. and i'm fortunately on other and i'm fortunately on the other side you know, you hear

side as well. you know, you hear every rachel reeves every every week rachel reeves is announcing some new constraint on, you know, we've heard a million things that labour what labour not labour are what labour is not going to change the going to do to change the economic direction of the country. so we're unfortunately , you know, we're in a big hole here. >> we are in a bit of a big hole which who would you vote for? well, if you're just joining me, welcome this welcome on board. this is gb news on online and on digital news on tv online and on digital radio. up, could labour's radio. coming up, could labour's plans make to make private schools more elitist? now, the party add vat the party wants to add vat to the private could private school fees, which could push of children into push thousands of children into state schools. discuss state schools. we'll discuss that next. first, here's that next. but first, here's your latest news headlines with ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks , nana. good afternoon. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. it's 3:33. our top stories, an urgent internal investigation into russell brand has been launched by the production company behind the big brother. spin off shows that he hosted in the mid 2000. now warning the

following footage contains flashing images in a statement . flashing images in a statement. bannau uk, which bought endemol in 2020, said it encourages anyone who was affected by russell brand's behaviour while working on its productions to contact them in confidence. it comes after the comedian and actor was accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse in allegations aired by channel four's dispatches programme and published in today's sunday times. russell brand has denied allegations of criminality and insisted that all of his relationships were consensual . liz truss will claim consensual. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than her government would have done. the former prime minister will use a speech at the institute for government to defend and explain her time in charge. nearly a year after the so—called mini budget that led to the end of her premiership , according to her premiership, according to the telegraph , ms truss will the telegraph, ms truss will point out that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been

saved this year and next. wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads. the welsh government says cutting the limit from 30mph to 20 will protect lives and save the nhs in wales. £92 million a yeah the nhs in wales. £92 million a year. the rac is warning drivers not to rely on satnavs for the correct speed limit and instead to follow road signs . and if you to follow road signs. and if you think it's looking dark and stormy outside, you're not alone. the met office saying that half a month's rain could fall in the space of just an hour today . fall in the space of just an hour today. it's fall in the space of just an hour today . it's issued fall in the space of just an hour today. it's issued a fall in the space of just an hour today . it's issued a yellow hour today. it's issued a yellow weather warning for thunderstorms across the south—west of england and south wales. a similar warning has been issued for to london do with a small risk of flash flooding. heavy rain was seen across the south of devon this morning with some localised flooding . you can get more on flooding. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com now let's get straight back to nana

. so up next, over to labour run wales with speed limits in built up areas have been reduced from 30 to 20. >> that's sparking controversy and anger amongst motorists. so what do you think? it's 20mph, way too slow

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britain's news. channel >> 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua now in labour run wales. channel. i'm nana akua now in labour run wales . the speed labour run wales. the speed limit in built up areas has been reduced from 30 to 20. yes i mean, that's sparked a lot of anger with many politicians describing it as a war on motorists . however, welsh motorists. however, welsh ministers have said that 20 mph would help reduce deaths. noise as well as encourage people to cycle or walk. well, i mean, you might as well, isn't it 20 miles now? so it's 20 miles an hour too slow . let's see what my head too slow. let's see what my head head is. make of that. joining me, advisor to jeremy me, former advisor to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, and also deputy editor of spiked frazer. frazer , 20 miles frazer. miles frazer, 20 miles an hour. is it too slow ? an hour. is it too slow? >> think a blanket policy, >> i think as a blanket policy, yes, too slow. you can yes, it's way too slow. you can kind you kind of understand why, you know, schools and things know, outside schools and things like that, there should be a lower speed limit. to say lower speed limit. but to say that much everywhere, that pretty much everywhere, regardless of how many pedestrians in pedestrians there are in a certain should be 20 certain area, should be 20 miles an is really an hour, i think is really absurd. and think it you absurd. and i think it is, you know, the broader war on

know, part of the broader war on motorists and attempt to sort of discourage people from driving, to make driving more expensive, more difficult things like that . i mean, in wales, you know, it's only they have the it's not only do they have the same kind ltns things same kind of ltns and things like you know, popped like that that you know, popped up all over the uk, they've actually banned road actually banned new road building. so there is a very kind of anti—car agenda there in particular. and people are right to be annoyed about that. you know , people surely have a right know, people surely have a right to go about their business in the most efficient way possible without that being impeded. >> of course, ltns a low traffic neighbourhoods. james schneider well, we get to see the results. >> i mean, i'm not a road traffic expert, so i'm not going to say it must be 20 or it must be 30 or it must, but that's what they're saying. or it must be something else. no, but you're what i think about be something else. no, but y0|and what i think about be something else. no, but y0|and i what i think about be something else. no, but y0|and i think, 'hat i think about be something else. no, but y0|and i think, okay,think about be something else. no, but y0|and i think, okay, there about be something else. no, but y0|and i think, okay, there are jt it. and i think, okay, there are some perfectly reasonable sounding bodies that are who have campaigned for this and say that is a good thing. there that this is a good thing. there are who say

are some other people who say it's a bad thing. it's not happening in england. let's see. the like in wales the effects are like in wales after a year or two and then and then pass judgement. i mean, then pass judgement. but i mean, i it's part of some i don't think it's part of some massive war or war motorists, massive war or war on motorists, nor think it's to going be nor do i think it's to going be the amazing in the the most amazing thing in the world the most amazing thing in the worwell, but, but it is a bit, >> well, but, but it is a bit, isn't it? like, have you ever sat in a car at 20 miles an houn sat in a car at 20 miles an hour, literally going everywhere? it actually makes people angry. it makes me angry. and sort it's and actually it sort of it's a bit a monotony that slightly bit of a monotony that slightly sort know . it sort of sort of i don't know. it sort of puts a trance and i don't puts you in a trance and i don't think it's a good thing. i'm chances good. no, not when chances are good. no, not when you're driving, not when you're driving. some driving. no, it's too some people the driving they get people say the driving they get into meditative into a kind of meditative state. >> it helps >> and so maybe. maybe it helps when don't know. that might >> and so maybe. maybe it helps wh one don't know. that might >> and so maybe. maybe it helps wh one ofdon't know. that might >> and so maybe. maybe it helps wh one of thet know. that might >> and so maybe. maybe it helps wh one of the medical'hat might >> and so maybe. maybe it helps wh one of the medical benefits1t be one of the medical benefits to people's health that we will uncover accident, by the 20 uncover by accident, by the 20 mile limit. mile an hour limit. >> the real reason >> i think the real reason they're doing this and think they're doing this and i think it's more to do with electric cars, a heavier cars, they are a lot heavier now. so if you're going 30 in an electric and you hit electric car and you hit someone, you're probably electric car and you hit someorlike you're probably electric car and you hit someorlike impact)robably electric car and you hit someorlike impact ofbably it'll be like the impact of maybe in a normal car maybe going 50 in a normal car because heavier. because they're way heavier. they're multi—storey

they're destroying multi—storey car parks, they're way too heavy. tyres are wearing heavy. their tyres are wearing much and also they're much faster and also they're really, really quiet. so people can't hear yeah. and can't hear them. yeah. and i think there's just a slightly sort sinister reason sort of more sinister reason because they realise this about electric cars . i mean, am i, am electric cars. i mean, am i, am i off track on that? >> i just had i i off track on that? >> ijust had i hadn't i off track on that? >> i just had i hadn't thought about it that way. but yeah, i suppose you know, particularly the sort of wear on the roads that they make. i mean there's a lot ways that that's going to lot of ways that that's going to make expensive. make driving more expensive. i mean, as surely mean, eventually as well. surely there's some there's going to have to be some kind of on electric cars. kind of tax on electric cars. oh, are. to replace the oh, they are. to replace the lost, know, petrol earnings. lost, you know, petrol earnings. i mean, you know, maybe there are subsidies for electric cars now, that won't last now, but that won't last forever. people are going to get stung this eventually . stung on this eventually. >> they're thinking of a >> i think they're thinking of a pay >> i think they're thinking of a pay scheme, think pay per mile scheme, but i think james quite happy with james will be quite happy with that. think good that. you think it's a good thing this net to zero thing or this this net to zero sort stuff that's leading us sort of stuff that's leading us towards think ? towards it. do you think? >> have to >> i mean, we have to decarbonise our economy very rapidly . i decarbonise our economy very rapidly. i mean, that's that's very obviously the case, though. where do we. well, yes, we've

entered into non—linear climate breakdown. if you look at, you know, all of the science we need to drastically reduce the amount of fossil fuels that doesn't mean that it's going to be like good or easy or or that some of the systems that people try to bnngin the systems that people try to bring in don't have lots of problems. they will have lots of problems. >> we look at the science when we said that diesel engines were better for environment, better for the environment, but then were the then it turns out they were the spawn satan. spawn of satan. >> well , what we spawn of satan. >> well, what we didn't we? >> well, what we did, didn't we? >> well, what we did, didn't we? >> mean . >> i mean. >> i mean. >> i mean. >> i mean, we do need to encourage we, we do need to decarbonise the, the economy. and there are different ways in which you can do that. you can do that in a way that's more pro—people and or you can do that a way that's that in a way that's anti—people. and, you know, i'm from i'm from the from the left, i'm from the progressive side politics. progressive side of politics. i think be that in think we should be doing that in a pro—people and that think we should be doing that in a taking pro—people and that think we should be doing that in a taking into»ro—people and that think we should be doing that in a taking into account»le and that think we should be doing that in a taking into account people's|at is taking into account people's costs and trying to it costs and trying to make it easier and cheaper people. easier and cheaper for people. >> i don't think >> i don't know. i don't think there pro—people there is a pro—people way of doing because you're doing this because if you're talking something like net talking about something like net zero, at the end of the zero, really at the end of the day, talking about

day, you're talking about placing people's placing restrictions on people's lives . the public accounts lives. the public accounts committee, was committee, i think it was a couple of years ago they looked at and they they said, you at this and they they said, you know, of net zero know, 60, at least of net zero is can't come from new technologies. it will have to come from behaviour change and behaviour change is a euphemism for you doing things that you rather know, rather wouldn't do. you know, using less efficient. i don't know whether it's means of transport, whether it's not heating your home as much or, you know , or having sort of you know, or having sort of costs imposed on you that sort of force into. there's of force you into. there's something take into something we should take into account climate account is that climate breakdown is already imposing costs and will it be imposing many more? >> for example, like the panama canal >> for example, like the panama canal, through which 40% of trade from china coming to the east coast of the us goes through and lots of it that comes to western europe goes through . there's currently a through. there's currently a massive build up outside because there's enough water, not there's not enough water, not enough they've enough water because they've had droughts it's droughts in panama and it's and panama by fresh panama canal is served by fresh water dries up the cost of water that dries up the cost of everything. it's not like we everything. so it's not like we can nothing about it. and

can do nothing about it. and there are no costs, you know, climate breakdown will impose very, the very, very large costs on the economy, which why from an economy, which is why from an economic point view, have economy, which is why from an ec�*takelic point view, have economy, which is why from an ec�*takelic pointthere'sv, have economy, which is why from an ec�*takelic pointthere's no have to take action. there's no there's no zero cost. >> i mean, estimated to >> i mean, it's estimated to cost about 4% of gdp . you know, cost about 4% of gdp. you know, climate change as a problem over over time. but you know, as the economy grows, as hopefully it grows, it doesn't look like it at the moment, though costs will get significantly smaller as a proportion of what we're well , proportion of what we're well, we've had a couple of emails and john says , yes, 2020 speed limit john says, yes, 2020 speed limit is too slow . is too slow. >> you can reduce accidents going too fast and too slow. there is that, isn't there? you go too slow and cause more trouble. labour are anti drivers . you have to think with wales labour here in london mayor has gone and what angela rayner has to say i think adrian says hi nana at 20 mph. my car wouldn't get out of second gear as a result, .the engine will rev higher using more petrol and causing more exhaust emissions.

theideais causing more exhaust emissions. the idea is ludicrous. 20 mph next to schools during school hours. yes. 20 mph. anywhere at 3 am. why yeah, i kind of agree with you there, but they're going to outlaw petrol so you won't need to worry about that. that's plan, right . well, that's the plan, right. well, let's on to the let's let's move on to the story. keir starmer and his story. so keir starmer and his labour are they're labour party are they're planning to remove the charitable status of private schools order to add a 20% schools in order to add a 20% vat charge if they want vat charge on fees. if they want to the next election. now, to win the next election. now, this comes as the opposition party hoping to raise £1.6 party are hoping to raise £1.6 billion in order to improve of state education action. however, the policy has received backlash as up to 40,000 students could be pushed into the state sector. it said . teachers have warned it said. teachers have warned that the policy risks making the luxury of children receiving a private school education an simply unaffordable for parents. so let's see what my head head does make of that. former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider and deputy editor, deputy editor spiked fraser deputy editor of spiked fraser myers. fraser, i'm going to come to you on this one as as sir keir starmer. i think he's got

his sums wrong because he's not going get 1.6 billion lots going to get 1.6 billion if lots of people jump , if people of people jump, if people stop going private school or going to private school or maybe, you know, private maybe, you know, maybe private schools the gaps with schools will fill the gaps with foreign students something foreign students or something like look, foreign students or something likelook, i mean, i want to >> look, i mean, i want to preface this by saying i think absolutely in the absolutely everyone in the country deserves a top class education. should be education. all schools should be as good as eton or harrow or winchester or whatever it is. and it's a tragedy that they're not, you it is a problem not, you know, it is a problem that we have an unequal education system. however i don't think that is going to be solved by, you know , either solved by, you know, either getting rid of private schools or forcing people out of private schools, forcing, you know, the lowest earners who can make the private school grade out of it. i think the really, you know , i think the really, you know, think of how large class sizes are at the moment in state schools are adding extra pupils from private schools into there is actually going to hurt state school pupils as well . and you school pupils as well. and you know, at the end of the day, there are a million ways that parents will find to get around

this stuff. you know, if parents aren't sending their kids to private schools who are doing well, then they're they've got tutors for their then tutors for their kids. then people buy, you know, expensive houses in catchment areas of good schools. you know, parents who can afford to do these things will gain the system . and things will gain the system. and i don't think you can solve equality , inequality at the equality, inequality at the educational level. i think it's you know, i think that's a level, a level of wealth in the economy. and things like that. i don't think a good idea to don't think it's a good idea to some people might argue that he's delusional he doesn't he's delusional and he doesn't understand what the private school they're not school is because they're not all eton. school is because they're not all you've)n. school is because they're not all you've got smaller schools >> you've got smaller schools that are private, look that are private, that do look after special needs after people with special needs or children with or look after children with autism like that. or look after children with autisn are like that. or look after children with autisnare all like that. or look after children with autisnare all the like that. or look after children with autisn are all the things 1at. or look after children with autisn are all the things that these are all the things that are going affected. are going to be affected. and a lot private schools lot of those private schools don't do education. they don't just do education. they also of stuff in the also do a lot of stuff in the community. james it's time community. james it's high time that subsidy for private that this subsidy for private schools was removed because that's what what it is they are given which given charitable status, which means that they don't have to charge vat. >> now, other businesses and

that's what private schools are. they're they're a business don't do have to charge vat for their things. so all this is doing is removing a existing subsidy. so basically, we're effectively subsidising private school education by there not being vat on it at the moment and using that money that we get back from not subsidising any more to put into funding for education for all. so it seems really quite, really quite sensible. >> the result is that people who are at these schools will end up being pushed out of these schools and getting into the state sector, which can't cope well. the people who are well. so and the people who are taking kids the private taking their kids to the private schools paying schools are also paying for education they're not education that they're not receiving in state school. >> of money that will >> the amount of money that will be from removing this be brought in from removing this private subsidy is far, private school subsidy is far, far more than the at the margins where some people will decide, okay, i'm not going to go, i'm not going to pay the money to send my kids to private school. they're going to go to the state school. that marginal cost is substantially than the substantially lower than the

money. bring in money. it's going to bring in from scrapping this totally unnecessary to private schools. >> no, no, i think no , it's not. >> no, no, i think no, it's not. >> they're not really businesses in the traditional sense. people are not drawing dividends out of them like and them or anything like that. and you do they do enough to you know, do they do enough to earn their charitable status ? earn their charitable status? >> no, of course not. no, that's not true. mum, i went not true. my mum, where i went to school essex, what to school in essex, what they do is every tuesday there's a bus that picks all the old people that picks up all the old people that picks up all the old people that and they take them to that do and they take them to the school they give them the school and they give them lunch do of stuff lunch and they do lots of stuff and do of stuff the and they do lots of stuff in the actual and a actual community. and this is a private school, the private school that i went and, school that i went to and, you know, to state school know, i went to a state school as well for a short period of time. but don't just do time. but they don't just do education. of education. they do lots of charitable bring charitable things. they bring in children and so children on scholarships and so there like performance there is like a performance promise that they and a promise that they reach. and a lot go to these lot of people who go to these schools, aren't schools, their parents aren't necessarily , really rich necessarily really, really rich ehhen necessarily really, really rich either. think either. so it's a bit i think wokeist really thinking wokeist was not really thinking it because it through properly because there'll of those there'll be an exodus of those kids are just the parents kids who are just the parents were just managing you are were just managing it. you are taking their kids to those schools they're missing out

schools and they're missing out on they're missing on holidays, they're missing out on holidays, they're missing out on things so they on all sorts of things so they can i don't think. can afford it. i don't think. >> mean, where doesn't he >> i mean, where why doesn't he focus bringing the school focus on bringing up the school education? getting education? well, it's getting it's a subsidy to get it's stopping a subsidy to get some put it into the some money to put it into the state system. so it is doing why doesn't he bring reduce if he said that he was going to reduce the civil service, mean, the civil service, i mean, i would could take would then he could take money from from from there, but not from something. there also something. there are also some other would like other things that i would like for to do, like education, for him to do, like education, which obviously isn't you which obviously isn't going you know, to do like know, he isn't going to do like what? example, i would what? well, for example, i would like wealth tax and use that like a wealth tax and use that to fund national education service. who % the wealth tax? >> who who would the wealth tax? would on property would it be on property or on assets? would it be on property or on ass over million, let's say. >> over 10 million, let's say. and excluding first home. that's fair totally fair enough. it's totally fair enough. it's why most people most people support it. you could that money, for could use that money, for example, to have a national education people education service so people could retrain and reskill at any point in lives. you could point in their lives. you could not fees, smaller not have tuition fees, smaller class . so, look, this is class sizes. so, look, this is not the scale of what i think the ambition should be, but for what is, which remove an what it is, which is remove an existing subsidy private existing subsidy for private schools . it's existing subsidy for private schools. it's perfectly schools. it's a perfectly sensible thing and it should be

applauded on terms. applauded on those terms. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> fraser well, i do think there is benefit to having >> fraser well, i do think there is schools to having >> fraser well, i do think there is schools and|aving >> fraser well, i do think there is schools and thriving private schools and thriving independent schools , not not independent schools, not not least because they kind of set the standard, you know, that's what we should be aiming for for, schools. so yeah, for, our state schools. so yeah, it would be a shame for people to miss out that. yeah, to miss out on that. yeah, i can't see state education, you know , catching up to that level know, catching up to that level at the moment, unfortunately. and a lot of the state, the private schools pair with state schools as well and they share some of their facilities . some of their facilities. >> and i, i just think keir starmer is looking at this from a sort of etonian perspective and not thinking about the other other schools qualify as other schools that qualify as private well. so some private schools as well. so some of what about of those would you what about those though, james, of those would you what about those could though, james, of those would you what about those could possiblyh, james, of those would you what about those could possibly be ames, there could possibly be exemptions. there's lots of them. well, there's lots of he's not going to get the money. he thinks he i'm i'm perfectly willing to accept there might be some exemptions. willing to accept there might be some ezyou3tions. willing to accept there might be some e:you know, the >> but you know, the overwhelming majority of private schools do not need to receive a state subsidy. it's not a 20% of

fees. state subsidy for their for their pupils. they don't they don't need they don't pay for schools that they're not sending their children to . they sending their children to. they don't need to receive it. we all pay don't need to receive it. we all pay education because it's a pay for education because it's a parents at parents if you're looking at a pubuc parents if you're looking at a public good, we want live public good, we all want to live in educated like that. in an educated like that. >> james and the parents pay twice. those who send twice. so those parents who send their children to private schools, they schools, they pay twice. they pay schools, they pay twice. they pay for their kids to pay for their for their kids to not state school and not go to a state school and they their kids go to they pay for their kids to go to a private so that's a a private school. so that's a that's a decision that's a decision they've taken. >> one's made them do that. >> no one's made them do that. that's decision they've taken. that's a decision they've taken. no do that. no one's made them do that. >> listen, keep your >> well, listen, keep your thoughts coming. this is gb views gb views on gbnews.com views on gb views on gbnews.com or at gb news. i'd to or tweet me at gb news. i'd to love i'm love hear your thoughts. i'm nana live on tv, nana akua. we're live on tv, onune nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, i'll be joined by my amazing panel. christine hamilton and of course, danny kelly. plus my monologue this afternoon . more nonsense afternoon. more gender nonsense as term mother under as the term mother comes under attack again. but first, let's get an update with your weather

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developing with developing elsewhere. still with some scattered and blustery showers around , temperatures showers around, temperatures generally ranging between 14 and 21 c into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is beginning to show its face and that will again bnng its face and that will again bring unsettled bring a wave of unsettled weather. isobars really weather. those isobars really squeezing certainly squeezing together. certainly bringing windy bringing a lot of windy conditions means coastal gales in places as well. quite a wet start to tuesday for northern ireland. and then that rain is going spread its way going to spread its way into most throughout most areas throughout the day, the north—east and the far north—east and southeast, holding on southeast, probably holding on to driest to some of the driest conditions. further showers, though, head though, possible as we head throughout and throughout wednesday. and thursday. of your thursday. enjoy the rest of your day. . day. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers are proud sponsors of weather on gb news . sponsors of weather on gb news. the this is a gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. >> i'm nana akua. there's more to come in the next hour.

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>> with? and i said, no one. like, i've never had sex with anyone on and he got an erection straight away and he was like, oh my god. he's like, my baby, my baby. and pick me up and cradled me in his arms like a child and was stroking my hair. and he's like, you're like my little dolly . russell engaged in little dolly. russell engaged in the behaviours of a groomer looking back on it, i didn't even know what that was then or what that looked like. he would try to drive a wedge between me and my parents. taught me to lie to them . to them. >> well, russell brand denies any criminality and insists that all of his relationships have been consensual. media lawyer jonathan code told us it's crucial that the allegations are examined. good reporting outfits like you must be allowed to make

allegations, say some hard things. >> we only have to think very far back. huw edwards, kevin spacey, both were the subject of huge media assaults and both it turns out, are innocent. so these are very, very difficult questions as to the protection of people's reputation on one hand. and the right of free speech on another. >> claims that labour wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are complete garbage. sir keir starmer has said the labour leader had indicated that he'd be open to working with brussels on managing channel crossings, which may involve taking in some asylum seekers. but sir keir says that would be as part of a deal to return channel migrants. his comments come after the prime minister claimed that labour wants the uk to become a migrant dumping ground. liz truss will claim rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she would have done .

more than she would have done. speaking at the institute for government , the former prime government, the former prime minister will defend her time in charge. nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation mission, according to telegraph , ms truss will to the telegraph, ms truss will claim that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved this year and next. but wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads. the welsh government says that cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the welsh nhs £92 million a year. the rac is warning drivers not to rely on satnavs for the correct speed limit and instead to follow road signs. the welsh conservatives say the decision will cost the welsh economy up to £89 billion. slow down emergency services and negatively impact people's livelihoods . a 48 year people's livelihoods. a 48 year old man has been charged with attempted murder after a teenager was stabbed in sheffield city centre. a 14 year

old boy was taken to hospital with serious injuries to his chest following the incident , chest following the incident, which police believe took place near sheffield's town hall. his injuries are not believed to be life threatening . the suspect life threatening. the suspect will appear in court tomorrow . will appear in court tomorrow. the death toll in libya's coastal city of derna is now more than 11,000. a major storm left over 200 buildings partially damaged and almost 400 others submerged in mud . rescue others submerged in mud. rescue teams continue to search for survivors. more than 38,000 people have been displaced in the most affected areas in north eastern parts of the country. foreign secretary james cleverly says the uk is examining what more it can do to help with the country's broken infrastructure. is making recovery efforts difficult ? and the met office difficult? and the met office says that more than a month's rain could fall by the end of today. it's issued an amber worn weather warning for thunderstorms across parts of devon and somerset . that means devon and somerset. that means there could be a danger to life

with flood water likely to damage homes and businesses. meanwhile a yellow weather warning is in place across the south—west of england and wales . this is this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news us now let's get back to nana . us now let's get back to nana. >> thank you, ray. you're with me. i'm nana akua this is a gb news on tv , online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's just coming up to six minutes after 4:00. now, there is so much going on in the news that this stuff appears to be going under the radar and sneaking in via the back door, which is pretty much the only way that it can get past us. but i want to continue to highlight it, its stupidity and denial of fact. i will continue to bang on the drum. i will not allow women and indeed the term mother to be erased . the term mother to be erased. but i am proud to be both. i

love the label of mother. not every woman has the fortune or misfortune to be called one, but it applies to the adult it only applies to the adult human female of the species. and i really don't get why some people have such a problem with that .in people have such a problem with that . in the latest that reality. in the latest twist of fate, the general medical council or the gmc , medical council or the gmc, which is an independent body that regulates doctors. now these medical people where these are medical people where biology is everything. now, they updated their internal guidance, replacing female specific language to make it gender neutral. why so, for example , neutral. why so, for example, surrogate mother has become surrogate mother has become surrogate parent. their menopause policy has erased any reference to women and has suggested that it's not only women that go through it. it's all very subtle. let me give you more examples. so in 2015, the guidance says if you are the surrogate mother, this policy will apply. the updated version reads, if you are the surrogate parent, this policy will apply.

so it's stuff like that that some overpaid diversity and inclusion tsar has gone through with a fine tooth comb to change only in their inclusion . they've only in their inclusion. they've defied only in their inclusion. they've defied biology and logic to actually exclude women, to pacify a very small minority of what i'm calling extremists , what i'm calling extremists, because most trans women that i have met now, they are of course, not biological women . course, not biological women. and in setting in a biological setting, realise the importance of acknowledging this . to be of acknowledging this. to be honest, i'd be worried about being treated by a medic who insists on this claptrap . would insists on this claptrap. would they honestly take a trans woman so a biological man seriously if he said that he was in labour and waste resources on him? of course they wouldn't. how much time will they waste pussyfooting around people in life and death situations trying not to offend a gmc spokesperson said. we've clearly titled policies for our staff, including maternity and paternity and adoption policies . we review these regularly in

consultation with our staff, but it one of the employees who wishes to remain anonymous said that it's a concerted effort to ignore the existence of women. well, i am a woman. they went on to say it's not appropriate for a medical organisation to ignore biology. they should stick to science. people are worried about putting their heads above the parapet . they're having. the the parapet. they're having. the organisation's woke ideology forced on them. it's not right . forced on them. it's not right. get a grip, people . all words get a grip, people. all words and language matter. i'm not prepared to embellish a lie just to keep delusional people happy. i accept that some people may feel or believe that they were meant to be a woman or a man, but are in reality the opposite . but facts matter . a man cannot . but facts matter. a man cannot give birth or go through the menopause . men and women are menopause. men and women are differentiated by their biology. we're in real trouble if now the medical professionals are in denial . so before we get stuck

denial. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking sunak versus truss. who gets your vote on the economy as we approach the first anniversary of liz truss and kwasi kwarteng s mini—budget, we'll looking at the two we'll be looking at the two approaches of both leaders . approaches of both leaders. should we stuck by truss should we have stuck by truss economics ? then at 450, its economics? then at 450, its worldview , we'll cross to los worldview, we'll cross to los angeles with paul duddridge. he's the politics he's the host of the politics people podcast to get latest people podcast to get the latest with trump and joe biden. then we move on to moscow to discuss the historic summit between kim jong vladimir putin. stay jong un and vladimir putin. stay tuned at five. it's this week's outside guide. now is outside guide. now she is a highly regarded agony aunt, broadcaster and writer known for her feminist views. stay tuned. all will be revealed. she's on the way. that's coming up in the next hour, though. tell me what you think everything we're you think on everything we're discussing. views, discussing. email gb views, gb news. me at . gb news.

news. or tweet me at. gb news. right. let's welcome again to my panel right. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christina hamilton . broadcaster and author christina hamilton. right, broadcaster and author christina hamilton . right, christine hamilton. right, christine hamilton. right, christine hamilton. i'm going to come straight to you because you are a woman . i am. last time a woman. i am. last time i looked in the mirror, danny, you're not a woman. no one i can vouch that sitting next to me are two women, biological women. >> it's the only way to be a woman. by the way, with biology. >> don't you just think >> exactly. don't you just think it's a bit worrying medical it's a bit worrying when medical people sort of diluting people are now sort of diluting the to of the language to sort of accommodate small minority? the language to sort of accomm> if they don't know the difference between a man and a woman, what the hell is going on? is. ithink woman, what the hell is going on? is. i think it's on? it is. i think it's positively hostile to women . positively hostile to women. this to change everything so that you can't say, mother, you can't say this. i mean, and this bonus whole business, instead of calling it a vagina , is just calling it a vagina, is just unbelievably offensive. and as i say, it's hostile . it's more say, it's hostile. it's more than just offensive. it's hostile to women and it's absurd

. i mean, only a woman can be a mother. only a woman can give birth. only a woman can have a menopause. they talk about menopausal men as an insult. you know, if a man is behaving ridiculously, people say, oh, they're being menopausal. >> i call it menopause . >> i call it menopause. menopause. when they go through that they want buy menopause. when they go through tifast they want buy menopause. when they go through tifast car they want buy menopause. when they go through tifast car and they want buy menopause. when they go through tifast car and everything, buy menopause. when they go through tifast car and everything, they! a fast car and everything, they divorce wives and just, divorce their wives and just, i don't flick their hair don't know, flick their hair crisis. yeah. or weight. crisis. yeah. or lose weight. >> losing do you >> danny's losing weight. do you think menopause nanopores think the menopause nanopores i didn't to bring up the didn't want to bring up the eighth successive week of losing a of pounds. a couple of pounds. >> well done. now a stone. >> well done. now it's a stone. £8 look i think it's £8 lighter. look i think it's all. >> think people need to say >> i think people need to say that again. >> danny done absolutely >> danny has done absolutely brilliantly. lost eight brilliantly. you have lost eight stone half since may the stone and a half since may the 22nd. think that's brilliant . 22nd. i think that's brilliant. >> well done. another stone >> well done. on another stone or go. thank so or two to go. thank you. so i think it's bordering on on utter insanity. and i would like to scrap some of these people up who a man be who say that a man can be a woman and woman can be a man woman and a woman can be a man to detector. because to a lie detector. because i don't don't i don't think what don't i don't i don't think what you want to strap for moment you want to strap for a moment

because they're not because because they're not telling the truth. they are . telling the truth. they are. they are. they're lying, aren't they? and if they? they're lying. and if they're lying, then they'll they're not lying, then they'll also persuaded that the earth they're not lying, then they'll alflat. persuaded that the earth they're not lying, then they'll alflat. and;uaded that the earth they're not lying, then they'll alflat. and whatd that the earth they're not lying, then they'll alflat. and what really the earth they're not lying, then they'll alflat. and what really annoysth is flat. and what really annoys me and i find it just so incredibly confusing, is that you these people who you have all of these people who will you that they believe will tell you that they believe in it comes to in science when it comes to climate change, they they'll climate change, yet they they'll tell that a man have a tell you that a man can have a child they'll tell you that child and they'll tell you that a is a bloke and they a woman is a bloke and they they're both you can't believe in both . either you're a man or in both. either you're a man or a woman of science or you're not. and for these gmc medical professionals that that's bordering on flat earth theory as far as i'm concerned. which leads me back to my earlier point, because not point, because they're not stupid. intelligent point, because they're not stupid. they intelligent point, because they're not stupid. they intethey're lying i >> -- >> it's just wokery gone mad . >> it's just wokery gone mad. they are trying appease the they are trying to appease the nought point, nought, nought, whatever is,% of. whatever it is,% of. >> of course, but of course >> but of course, but of course somebody would say somebody who's trans would say that they believe that that actually they believe that they're woman and they are they're a woman and they are a woman. i mean, know, so i woman. i mean, you know, so i accept woman. they use the accept trans woman. they use the word woman at the end, but they have put trans in point have to put trans in the point

we're talking and we're talking about. and it's not to upset somebody who believes a trans woman believes they're a trans woman or who believes they're a trans man about man. we are talking about biology matters, biology and biology matters, especially in a hospital setting. that's i the setting. that's why i put the line the monologue that if line in in the monologue that if somebody had somebody phoned up, a man had phoned said, i think i'm phoned up and said, i think i'm in labour, but they were trans in labour, but they were a trans woman and would the medical professionals take that? they would have seriously, they would have motions. have to go through the motions. this waste time. a this is a waste of time. it's a waste resource. you know waste of resource. you know that this biologically this person is biologically a man. cannot be pregnant. so man. they cannot be pregnant. so that's that's issue. i'm having. >> i love danny's idea of strapping them up to a lie detector. >> yeah . all you got to ask them >> yeah. all you got to ask them is, look, do you honestly believe that a man can give birth? that's the only question. that's the only question . and that's the only question. and you'll see the thing go mental. that the electrodes going that all the electrodes going berserk know that berserk because they know that it's lie . it's a complete lie. >> i know people might say, oh, you're about it, you're going on and on about it, but reason i'm doing is but the reason i'm doing this is because many things because we've got so many things in that these little in the media that these little incremental sort incremental steps toward sort of the obliteration women the obliteration of women suddenly realise we're suddenly you realise that we're gone and the name and the gone and the name woman and the term is gone. and i'm not

term mother is gone. and i'm not prepared to allow to prepared to allow that to happen. important. happen. it's very important. >> out an >> i just point out an observation i was pleased to observation and i was pleased to see you use the word he instead of a lot of commentators of she. a lot of commentators nowadays, read this in the nowadays, and i read this in the right wing tabloids about a trans woman it's bloke and trans woman and it's a bloke and they continue to the they will continue to use the word okay. and i think it's word she. okay. and i think it's important a bit of important that there is a bit of a gentle push back and like you said in your opening monologue when you when referring to a woman, you said she and when referring to a man who believed that he was a woman, you continue to use the word and i think that's word he and i think that's significant because as as significant because as soon as you start religiously rattling out these deceitful terms, out these these deceitful terms, then you're part of the problem. >> and do you think so, christine? some people would say that they're doing it in the terms of. >> so e so sure terms of. >> so sure about that. >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i know a couple of trans women and i would find it offensive for myself if i called them. he when i know perfectly well they want to be she well they want to be called. she and therefore, would respect that. >> i agree with but we're >> i agree with you. but we're talking generally i think if talking generally and i think if i someone who was trans

i met someone who was a trans woman, next me and she woman, i next to me and she said, do you mind if i or he said, do you mind if i or he said, you mind if you call said, do you mind if you call me? i'd say, of course i will. i mean, just let me use her and she whatever. she and whatever. >> been called >> if somebody had been called harry wanted be harry and they wanted to be called you called harriet, you would. i would that. would respect that. >> the name. fine. >> call the name. that's fine. but it's the same with he and she. >> i don't think. i'm not sure about that. danny. yeah because listen, think it a listen, i think yes, it is a matter of respect in a way, but then asking somebody then you're asking somebody to enter then you're asking somebody to ent that's right. and that's and >> that's right. and that's and it to me now to decide it is down to me now to decide whether go into that whether i want to go into that because know that that person because i know that that person who is a she is actually a he. and it now becomes now you're asking me to corroborate a delusion. but delusion. now that's fine. but i don't to that. don't want to do that. and i should have the free will to do that. i'll call somebody, whatever name ask. that's whatever name they ask. that's fine. you know, if fine. i don't mind. you know, if a wants be a man is called wants to be called call . i'll called rachel, i'll call. i'll called rachel, i'll call. i'll call him rachel. but when you ask to now lie to myself ask me now to now lie to myself and a delusion or and enter into a delusion or your reality which isn't mine , your reality which isn't mine, then i. now i am losing my own freedom of speech. and i find that that that's where i lose it just on an individual basis.

>> one wants to be respectful to somebody. that's to them. somebody. that's true to them. and know i think somebody. that's true to them. and do. know i think somebody. that's true to them. and do. but;now i think somebody. that's true to them. and do. but you're i think somebody. that's true to them. and do. but you're quite think somebody. that's true to them. and do. but you're quite right. you do. but you're quite right. it is a lie to call a trans woman she, because they're not woman a she, because they're not they're trans. woman a she, because they're not the well, ans. woman a she, because they're not the well, this is what you see. >> well, this is what you see. we're going to go we're not going go down that route. i going to go down that route. i know say, oh, know a lot of people say, oh, but but i just can't allow the term woman and mother to disappear. sure lot disappear. and i'm sure a lot of women mothers would agree women and mothers would agree with kind of 50% with me. that's the kind of 50% of the population or more. but it's up to 70 it's just coming up to 70 minutes after 4:00. is gb minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. akua. we're live news. i'm nana akua. we're live on online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. still come, this radio. still to come, this week's outside now, a highly regarded aunt , broadcaster regarded agony aunt, broadcaster and known for her and writer known for her feminist views. now she's the author of 15 books. she's well known as a life coach as well . known as a life coach as well. who do you think she is? vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, let's get an update with your weather . weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan

vawter here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . autumn certainly is met office. autumn certainly is in full swing over the next few days and even into the end of sunday. we've got some fairly hefty showers pushing their way across parts of england and wales erratically moving northwards. parts of southeastern england really could see some torrential downpours over course of downpours over the course of this western scotland is this night. western scotland is starting to see the turning starting to see the rain turning more heavier more persistent and heavier later this band of later on. and then this band of rain to form across rain begins to form across western areas. quite a warm night of us underneath night for many of us underneath all that cloud. temperatures not dropping 12 to 16 c dropping much below 12 to 16 c for most of us. then on monday, that band of rain is going to shift way towards the shift its way over towards the east. could certainly be heavy in isolated in places with an isolated thunderstorm possible. thunderstorm still possible. rain will be most persistent for parts of northeast scotland. caithness, sutherland , really caithness, sutherland, really quite day quite a damp, miserable day here. but behind that, we will see some brighter spells developing elsewhere. still with see some brighter spells devel

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guidance. see what you've guidance. let's see what you've been saying. ian says it's all very well erasing the word mother. doesn't the word mother. but doesn't the word maternity mean mother? mother. but doesn't the word materexactly mean mother? mother. but doesn't the word materexactly . mean mother? mother. but doesn't the word materexactly . rachelnother? mother. but doesn't the word materexactly . rachel sayszr? well, exactly. rachel says that's a woman . i do not support that's a woman. i do not support this revising of the language. that's what i said. most trans people don't. this gender zealotry is very unhelpful to me because it's unnecessarily provocative towards other women. thank you for that. thank you. ashley says. can anyone at the gmc give an instant give an instant of when a biological male has given birth to a child? yes. it'd be interesting to see, claire says. so when a surgeon operates on a so—called trans woman , he's going to go in there woman, he's going to go in there looking for a womb, is he? no. i think hopefully by then he will have worked it out, i hope. but it's have worked it out, i hope. but wsfime have worked it out, i hope. but it's time now for the great british debate. keep your thoughts coming. i'm asking sunak versus truss, who gets your on the economy now? your vote on the economy now? liz truss claims that rishi sunaks government spent £35 sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she would have as prime minister. the former prime minister for how many days

was it? 40 something days? 49, 40, 40, 45. we'll use a speech at the institute of government tomorrow to defend and explain her time in power. according to the telegraph , truss will point her time in power. according to the thatgraph , truss will point her time in power. according to the that under truss will point her time in power. according to the that under her ss will point her time in power. according to the that under her plans, point her time in power. according to the that under her plans, £18.4 out that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved in 20 2324, with another 17.1 billion in 2024, 25. so was liz truss right when it came to her infamous budget or was rishi sunak on the right track? who do you think so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking sunak versus truss, who gets your vote on the economy? i'm fraser myers i'm joined now by fraser myers is the deputy editor for spiked. james adviser james schneider, former adviser to jeremy corbyn. stephen pound, former party mp, and former labour party mp, and vicky chief economic vicky pryce, chief economic adviser for the centre of economic and business research. i'm start with you, i'm going to start with you, vicky. what do you think ? vicky. what do you think? >> the interesting thing is we didn't see truss in in in power long enough to be able to say what was going to have happened to the economy. >> what she's arguing is >> but what she's arguing is

that been a lot that she would have been a lot more in terms of more careful in terms of upgrading in upgrading benefits in particular. course particular. that, of course would as would have affected pensions as well. if she had done that, well. and if she had done that, then she would have saved a certain amount of money. if certain amount of money. and if you then you carry that forward, then obviously increases . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly increases . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly her increases . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly her claim |creases . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly her claim .reases . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly her claim . butes . you carry that forward, then obvi so;ly her claim . but i; . and so that's her claim. but i think one thing she did do right was actually intervening and doing something about electricity prices. you remember at the time that she was going through the election process with the conservative party members. we had huge concerns about what was going to happen to energy prices and inflation expectations were rising , you expectations were rising, you know, out of control. people were talking about inflation, perhaps going to 18% in the winter , and she did step in winter, and she did step in something that sunak as chancellor did not do. and the first day of her premiership , first day of her premiership, she announced what she was doing, her speech in in parliament was actually the same day as the announcement of the queens death happened . so then queens death happened. so then of course, everything stopped. but nevertheless, was but nevertheless, she was introducing cap, introducing this price cap, electricity cap, which

electricity price cap, which is still us in form. and still with us in some form. and i that helped hugely. i think that helped hugely. i think that it you could say think for that it you could say that at least she acted when sunak did not. >> okay. stephen pound yeah, i'd have to say i'm not massively enamoured of either of them to be perfectly honest. >> but the thing about liz truss is in the long term it is that in the long term it might worked. her idea was might have worked. her idea was that, know, you cut taxes, that, you know, you cut taxes, you increase productivity. but the got you increase productivity. but tisovereign got you increase productivity. but tisovereign wealth got you increase productivity. but tisovereign wealth fund got you increase productivity. but tisovereign wealth fund in got a sovereign wealth fund in the country unless know, country or unless you know, you've massive, massive you've got massive, massive reserves of currency, you're at the of standard and the mercy of standard and poor's. moody's and fitch. it's all about international confidence. now, probably the greatest single disaster i in my lifetime certainly has been the kwarteng budget, which assumed that they could actually separate themselves from the world of confidence. it was like when che guevara manager of when che guevara was manager of the bank of cuba, you the central bank of cuba, you know, and thought he could know, and he thought he could actually it alone. it didn't actually go it alone. it didn't actually go it alone. it didn't actually so problem is actually work. so the problem is you make own policy you don't make your own policy nowadays. to have nowadays. you have to have confidence. and liz truss lost the confidence standard and poor's, fitch, the poor's, moody's and fitch, the

people the weather, people who make the weather, gave the big thumbs down and gave her the big thumbs down and she, as you know, emulate , hated she, as you know, emulate, hated the lettuce . the lettuce. >> no, i think the lettuce lasted longer, actually . she lasted longer, actually. she fraser no, i'm so sorry. >> can i apologise to all lettuce out there? >> fraser minus tip of the iceberg. >> no. >> no. >> oh, very good. very good . >> oh, very good. very good. >> oh, very good. very good. >> fraser myers am i allowed to say neither? because i think you know, there are some things that truss got right. i think she was absolutely right to recognise that britain was in trouble and absolutely right to recognise that is itain was in trouble and absolutely right to recognise that is with was in trouble and absolutely right to recognise that is with aas in trouble and absolutely right to recognise that is with a very, trouble and absolutely right to recognise that is with a very, very, le and absolutely right to recognise that is with a very, very, you1d still is with a very, very, you know, deep seated economic problems. and the only kind of quite radical policies would change that . and she was also change that. and she was also right to , you know, pick right to, you know, pick a fight, i think, with the treasury, with the for office budget responsibility, all of these kinds of sort of technocratic , you know, i guess technocratic, you know, i guess civil servants and things like that, people who actually we have not been the best custodians of our economy over the past several decades . but the past several decades. but obviously the execution was poor . i don't think the tax cutting agenda was necessarily the right

response . yes. but then in some response. yes. but then in some ways, i think sunak is even worse because he is very much accepted the status quo. he's done very little to try and change things. and that in a way is, i think, more. >> james snyder it's got to be neither of them. >> they've both been part of the same conservative government, which is the worst government this country had we this country has had since we won right to vote. most won the right to vote. most people are worse off now than they were 13 years ago. pay is below where it was. everything else is more expensive, so the both of their economic visions have failed, as have their predecessor , ours. and we're predecessor, ours. and we're just part of the crisis that they're currently trying to manage was created by their own predecessors with david cameron, george osborne and all the rest of them. >> but you could also say that about the labour party, though. i a very they i mean, they had a very they left the country mess and left the country in a mess and a lot of people were a lot poorer under them and during their time we had the subprime fiasco,

which led the country into the mess that we're in. >> i'm no big fan of new labour, but the average pay for the overwhelming majority of people was a lot , lot overwhelming majority of people was a lot, lot higher overwhelming majority of people was a lot , lot higher in overwhelming majority of people was a lot, lot higher in 2010 than it was in 1997. and there have been some substantial investment in in public services. the records are not comparable at all and on the financial crisis stuff , all of financial crisis stuff, all of that very bad wrong deregulation . let the city do their own casino casino gambling was whole heartedly endorsed by the conservatives on the other side. >> yeah, but but the labour party were in power. so by your very argument to blame the tories for what has happened in their the labour party their reign, the labour party must accept responsibility for theirs. though theirs. stephen pound though heanng theirs. stephen pound though hearing that though you weren't, you said that in the long term she , liz truss may have been she, liz truss may have been right. is that you said? she, liz truss may have been rigii. is that you said? she, liz truss may have been rigii feltthat you said? she, liz truss may have been rigii felt her you said? she, liz truss may have been rigii felt her idea you said? she, liz truss may have been rigii felt her idea that said? she, liz truss may have been rigii felt her idea that there's, >> i felt her idea that there's, there's sort of scorched earth there's a sort of scorched earth policy that some economists have come know, all come up with. you know, we all know this goes back know that this goes back basically the days of basically to the days of thatcher, the idea that you cut

taxes massively, that incentivises rush incentivises people, they rush out they enormous out there, they do an enormous amount they increase amount of work. they increase productivity because the big problem country problem we have in this country is productivity . that argument is productivity. that argument collapses on two grounds. one is italy and france have got higher levels productivity than we levels of productivity than we are. have and their taxation are. we have and their taxation system isn't is not comparable. but thing is nobody's but the second thing is nobody's ever it. nobody's ever ever tried it. nobody's ever gone for that. i think georgia did 1980, but i don't did it in 1980, but i don't think any other country in the history world has ever history of the world has ever gone a tax. gone for a sort of a zero tax. we've for flat tax. we've we've gone for flat tax. we've never actually tried it . so in never actually tried it. so in the term, have the long term, it might have worked, is in worked, but the reality is in the economy, unless you the global economy, unless you stand unless you're saudi stand alone, unless you're saudi arabia one the arabia or you're one of the scandinavian countries, you simply it alone. simply cannot do it alone. and that mistake. she that was her mistake. she thought could with thought she could go with a sinn fein alone route fein ourselves alone route doesn't work. >> right. well, listen . >> all right. well, listen. well, for your well, thank you for your thoughts. myers, deputy thoughts. fraser myers, deputy editor for james editor for spike. james schneider, former adviser to jeremy pound , jeremy corbyn, stephen pound, former mp, and former labour party mp, and vicky chief economic former labour party mp, and vicky for chief economic former labour party mp, and vicky for the ief economic former labour party mp, and vicky for the centre nomic former labour party mp, and vicky for the centre ofnic adviser for the centre of economic and business research . economic and business research. so what are your thoughts? get in touch! vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet at gb news. i'm nana

tweet me at gb news. i'm nana akua. is gb news. we are akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv online and on digital radio coming up. it's time for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking sunak versus truss , who gets your vote versus truss, who gets your vote on the economy ? you'll hear the on the economy? you'll hear the thoughts of panel, and thoughts of my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and and also broadcaster and journalist but journalist danny kelly. but first, get latest first, let's get your latest news ray addison news headlines with ray addison . on >> thanks, nana. it's 4:31. our top stories this hour. and we start with some breaking news. the met police has announced that it will speak to the sunday times and channel 4 after claims of rape and sexual assault were made against the comedian russell brand . now warning for russell brand. now warning for those of you watching on television, the following footage contains flashing images. in a statement, footage contains flashing images. in a statement , the images. in a statement, the force said it was aware of media reports of a series of allegations of sexual assault , allegations of sexual assault, but had not received any reports in relation to this. they urged

anyone who believes they've been the victim of a sexual assault to contact police . it comes as to contact police. it comes as the production company behind the production company behind the big brother spin off shows hosted by russell brand in the mid 2000, launched its own urgent investigation. mr brand denies any criminality and insists that all of his relationships have been consensual . i'll liz truss will consensual. i'll liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she would have done. speaking at the institute for government , the former prime government, the former prime minister will defend her time in charge. nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation mission, according to , ms truss will to the telegraph, ms truss will claim that she would have saved £18.4 billion this year and next. wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads. the welsh government says cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the welsh nhs £92 million a year. the welsh

conservatives say it will actually cost the welsh economy up to 8.9 billion and slow down emergency services . and the met emergency services. and the met office says more than a month's rain could fall by the end of today. it's issued an amber weather warning for thunderstorms across parts of devon and somerset . that means devon and somerset. that means there could be a danger to life with flood water likely to damage homes and businesses. meanwhile, a yellow weather warning is in place across the south—west of england and wales . you can get more on all of those stories on our website, gbnews.com. now let's get straight back to nana . straight back to nana. >> thank you, ray. still to come, it's this week's outside, a highly regarded agony aunt broadcaster and writer known for her feminist views. she's written 15 books. she's also well known as a life coach. she's a well—known to readers around the uk as the sun newspaper's resident psychologist, she writes

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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news as . news as. >> welcome back. just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00 this is gb news. i'm nana akua . now it's gb news. i'm nana akua. now it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking sunak versus truss . who gets sunak versus truss. who gets your vote on the economy . now, your vote on the economy. now, liz claims that rishi liz truss claims that rishi sunak government has spent £35

billion more than she would have if she were prime minister. now, the former prime minister will use speech at the institute use a speech at the institute for tomorrow to for government tomorrow to defend the and explain her time in power. now, according to the telegraph, truss will point out that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved in 2023 to 24, with another 17.1 billion in 20 4 to 25. so whilst liz truss, right when it came to her controversy, a mini—budget or rishi sunak on, is he on the right track ? so for the great right track? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking you sunak versus truss , asking you sunak versus truss, who gets your vote? let's see what my panel make of that. joining broadcast joining me broadcast from journalist kelly, also journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christine hamilton and danny kelly. danny danny boy , danny boy. danny boy, danny boy. >> well, the answer has to be rishi sunak because . well, only rishi sunak because. well, only because. let me qualify this. because definitively what liz truss is now doing is she is projecting forward. she is opining on what her her annual spend would have been. she has

no evidence to support . no evidence to support. >> she does. she does. she's saying based on what she would have this what it would have done, this is what it would have done, this is what it would have all right. she have looked like. all right. she did so that was. did have a plan. so that was. >> just going to liz >> but just going back to liz truss. okay. so 44 days, i think her premiership was 44. and if the daily mail were correct and the daily mail were correct and the express were correct, she she wanted to model as she wanted to model herself as the now, the next margaret thatcher. now, margaret famously said, margaret thatcher famously said, this for turning yet this lady's not for turning yet . turned because she . liz truss turned because she sacked kwasi kwarteng. was sacked kwasi kwarteng. she was like spinning jenny. she was like a spinning jenny. she was spinning. stop spinning. she couldn't stop spinning. she couldn't stop spinning around then brought spinning around and then brought in and she allowed in jeremy hunt and she allowed jeremy hunt to back jeremy hunt to row back and u—turn of the main u—turn on some of the main policies worldwide policies that the worldwide market choice market she had any choice with the that came on. the policies that came on. >> it did feel like that she was but well okay. >> but i think the reason she got rid kwasi kwarteng was got rid of kwasi kwarteng was because she had to because she realised she had to change otherwise change the policies. otherwise why the behind why get rid of the man behind the idea? that's what it was. >> her apparently. and he >> her idea, apparently. and he was following her policies. i think. don't know why did think. i don't know why she did that. there was a big that. i think there was a big mistake rid kwasi mistake getting rid of kwasi kwarteng. christine. mistake getting rid of kwasi kw(well,. christine. mistake getting rid of kwasi kw(well, she's christine. mistake getting rid of kwasi kw(well, she's obviously >> well, she's obviously fair enough justify herself

enough trying to justify herself now year after the event, it now a year after the event, it was such a short tenure and it was such a short tenure and it was interrupted by the queens death and the funeral and goodness knows what. so it's but these figures, they are so enormous. i mean, apparently the one p off the basic rate would have cost 5 billion, scrapping the £0.45 higher rate would have cost 6 billion. i mean, that was a stupid mistake because they didn't have to do that until, i think following april . why think the following april. why introduce it there? why spook the the corporation the markets and the corporation tax rise which she was proposing to stop the rise from 19 to 25% would have cost 63 billion. i'm not an economist. i can't juggle all these figures. i can't say whether this who's whose plans would have cost more. but i think i don't think she was prime ministerial material. i think she was way in above her head, unfortunately. but i think she had the right idea. tax cutting and go for growth. so i was once she was elected, i thought, right, i'll go with this to start with. but she they didn't prepare the ground. they

didn't prepare the ground. they didn't prepare the public, they didn't prepare the public, they didn't prepare the markets . they didn't prepare the markets. they didn't prepare the markets. they didn't prepare the markets. they didn't prepare anybody. they rushed headlong ahead and the markets got spooked. and the rest history . markets got spooked. and the rest history. i don't think rest is history. i don't think she and kwasi really talk to each other anymore. i don't know about that. >> i couldn't i couldn't say about that. >> his budget was, as far as i'm aware, know, under aware, pretty, you know, under under funded there were liabilities in his budget that weren't funded and costed properly. and that's why the markets got well, hadn't markets got well, they hadn't explained they were going explained where they were going to get the money. that's wonderful. this wonderful. i mean, this wonderful. i mean, this won> normally , as i understand >> normally, as i understand someone in the government will leak something to the to the right wing favourable press so that they can print it and then they can get they can of they can get they can sort of listen to jungle drums,

listen to the jungle drums, the reaction. not sure that reaction. and i'm not sure that anyone anything with that anyone leaked anything with that mini—budget because if they had a leak, then there would have been of market been some sort of market response. stephen pound said something really interesting. did . crikey, i like did he? he did. crikey, i like pound. did he? he did. crikey, i like pound . he's a good lad, but pound. he's a good lad, but i disagree with everything. but but today he's actually said something that is quite true in the sense although we are the sense that although we are an we're financial an island, we're not a financial island. we are bound by worldwide market forces and we're a small island. we punch above our weight. but but i don't think she recognised the fact that there were worldwide, just out just like as you pointed out with the, the what subprime in america that made its way over here in 2008. so that caused our recession. >> i don't think you can blame i mean because a lot of the banks were giving out mortgages as though they were cherry though they were like cherry sweets. that was an sweets. and that was an american. no no, no, american. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. that was no, no, no, no, no, no. that was in country, in this in this country, in this country. mac there. i country. fannie mac was there. i know, actually did know, because i actually did a little for panorama about little piece for panorama about subprime, fiasco . subprime, the subprime fiasco. and i was somebody who lived in a property that actually was

there to witness the effect that it had, where people were just taking on mortgages then taking on mortgages and then getting in, taking the getting people in, taking the money then not paying money and then but not paying the oh, it was it money and then but not paying the a oh, it was it money and then but not paying the a mess oh, it was it money and then but not paying the a mess because h, it was it money and then but not paying the a mess because anyone; it money and then but not paying the a mess because anyone could was a mess because anyone could get a mortgage. the banks were not started in not collapsed, started in america, the. but but america, which was the. but but the here in this the practises were here in this country . that's why you country. and that's why you can't sign any declaration. and it partly governmental it was partly governmental policy so policy as well. so the government lot to say government have a lot to say about that. government have a lot to say aboyes.1at. government have a lot to say aboyes. but also , yes, indeed, >> yes. but also, yes, indeed, started but as started in america. but as margaret famously said margaret thatcher famously said , i the markets are , i mean, the markets are worldwide. she famously said worldwide. and she famously said you can't buck the markets and worldwide. and she famously said you can't.3uck the markets and worldwide. and she famously said you can't.3uck liz markets and worldwide. and she famously said you can't.3uck liz truss ets and worldwide. and she famously said you can't.3uck liz truss tried 1d you can't. and liz truss tried and tried to buck the and quasi tried to buck the markets and didn't work. and quasi tried to buck the markets and didn't work . the markets and it didn't work. the markets and it didn't work. the markets the rest is markets revolted and the rest is history. whether sunak is history. but whether sunak is going any better, i don't going to do any better, i don't see any signs yet . see any signs yet. >> well, we shall see. let's see what happens. >> let's have a bit of tax cutting. >> yeah, that would be nice, wouldn't it? >> would be nice. >> it would be nice. >> it would be nice. >> see what our great >> we'll see what our great british voices have to say, because be because this show would be nothing without let's nothing without them. let's welcome opportunity welcome them on your opportunity to you think to tell us what you think about the discussing. the topics we're discussing. i'm going to northampton

going to go over to northampton to speak to miranda richardson, not richardson. not the miranda richardson. miranda miranda. miranda richardson, miranda. what think? how are you? what do you think? how are you? i'm good, thank you. sunak versus trump . versus trump. >> it's a rock and a hard place, isn't it? >> let's be honest . um, and you >> let's be honest. um, and you know , that little bit of know, that little bit of hindsight or forward thinking, whichever way you we're going to look at it, i think i agree with christine . you know, she she had christine. you know, she she had some great ideas . she'd got a some great ideas. she'd got a good time. but a 44 day tenure is not going to be good enough to carry us anyway. and then and also, as with christine, definitely not prime minister material. so she never really had a chance to get running. and as we know, scared everybody and did everything. and then you've got sunak. on the other hand, that, you it's not even that, you know, it's not even really abundantly clear what he's going to do or what the changes are going to be or how he's going make things, or he's going to make things, or how are we to going pull anything we just get anything back. and we just get further further sucked into further and further sucked into it. think initially it. and i think initially we all we to do is cut we could look to do is cut taxes. but, you know, love

taxes. but, you know, we'd love that's isn't it? that's an ideal world, isn't it? and face it, we live and let's face it, we don't live in one literally tax in one of those literally tax everybody to death, though. >> the problem. >> miranda that's the problem. miranda you miranda richardson, thank you very me. she's miranda richardson, thank you v> yeah, that's pretty nasty. >> yeah, that is nasty. nelson says. what is this, the who's the best captain on the titanic in its last 30 minutes before sinking competition? well, no. i suppose you could put it that way for them. it does seem to

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21 c into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is beginning to show its face, and will again its face, and that will again bnng its face, and that will again bring of unsettled bring a wave of unsettled weather. isobars really weather. those isobars really squeezing together. certainly bringing windy bringing a lot of windy conditions and coastal gales in places as well. quite a wet start to tuesday for northern ireland. and then that rain is going to spread its way into most areas throughout day. going to spread its way into mosfar'eas throughout day. going to spread its way into mosfar northeastjhout day. going to spread its way into mosfar northeastjhout southeast the far northeast and southeast probably holding on some of probably holding on to some of the conditions further the driest conditions as further showers, though possible as we head wednesday and head throughout wednesday and thursday rest of your thursday. enjoy the rest of your day. bye. thursday. enjoy the rest of your daythe bye. thursday. enjoy the rest of your daythe temperature's rising. >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news coming up, weather on. gb news coming up, the great british debate this houn >> i'm asking, do you believe sir keir starmer will drag us back into the eu ? but next, it's back into the eu? but next, it's worldview as we get the latest on what's going on in the us and russia with paul duddridge and alexis

good afternoon. coming up to 53 minutes after 4:00. if you've just joined us, welcome on board. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. it's time now for world view and north korean leader kim jong view and north korean leader kim jong un is heading home by train after a week long visit to russia that included talks with president vladimir putin on closer military and other cooperation. joining me to talk all about russia is russian journalist aleksey veire . alexi, journalist aleksey veire. alexi, thank you very much for joining me. now an all important summit between vladimir putin and kim

jong un. tell us about that . jong un. tell us about that. >> hello, nana . well, i guess >> hello, nana. well, i guess after what happened with prigozhin , kim rhiannon decided prigozhin, kim rhiannon decided not to fly to russia, but rather lack of like a proper gangster rapper. take well, not a bullet—proof cadillac, but his famous green bullet—proof train and well, those two boys, two bad boys with international pop critics, met in russia's far east to discuss their evil plans or at least this is how the summit between the two leaders is seen from the west . so what is seen from the west. so what did the two leaders actually talk about? the truth is that we don't really know . don't really know. >> according to the kremlin, no agreement or no treaty has been signed. >> after the meeting . >> after the meeting. >> after the meeting. >> at the same time, white house officials have claimed that moscow and pyongyang have forged some sort of a secret military alliance because they believe moscow depends on ammunition suppues moscow depends on ammunition supplies to continue its military effort in ukraine. >> at the same time , pyongyang >> at the same time, pyongyang hopes to get some advanced

military technology from moscow. and while this doesn't actually seem that far from the truth, since kim went to inspect some russian fighter jets during his visit, but the military sphere is not the only one where moscow and managed to cooperate because nonh and managed to cooperate because north korea needs food . and it north korea needs food. and it badly depends on russian agricultural supplies . at the agricultural supplies. at the same time, moscow has been relying on cheap north korean labour to develop its construction projects in the far east and briefly then , what's east and briefly then, what's the reaction been in moscow and abroad to this meeting ? well, in abroad to this meeting? well, in moscow, the reaction is quite moderate as usual. moscow, the reaction is quite moderate as usual . the moscow, the reaction is quite moderate as usual. the kremlin spokesperson said that this summit between the russian president and the north korean leader is not a sensation, but rather a good old tradition. at the same time from the west, the reaction is very negative. while as usual, it doesn't come as a surprise. some commentators even went as far as saying that putin is no longer an a—list celebrity because he is meeting with some

rogue leaders like kim jong un. but, well, the question is, who are the a—listers then the western politicians like joe biden, can't on biden, who can't even get on stage without tripping and falling ? falling? >> yeah, listen, alexei, good to talk to you. thank you so much for that update. that's alexi here. in moscow. let's here. he's live in moscow. let's travel over to america now. let's chat the host let's have a chat with the host of people podcast , of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge. so let's get the latest on trump. unlike the concept of a female running mate, what's happening with trump these days ? trump these days? >> yeah , well, he's starting to >> yeah, well, he's starting to talk about who he'd like as his vp or potential vp candidate, and he's saying that he likes the concept of a female running mate, which is something i've been saying like i matter, but i've been saying this all along. i've been saying this all along. ihopei i've been saying this all along. i hope i personally hope it's kari lake, who was attempting to become governor of arizona , but become governor of arizona, but he's named specifically kristi noem, who's the governor of current governor of south

dakota, who who is kind of respected on the anti—vax side of politics. if you like, because she refused to issue a statewide mask mandate during the pandemic. statewide mask mandate during the pandemic . and so she has the pandemic. and so she has a lot of credibility on that side of the aisle , something that of the aisle, something that trump definitely needs to work with. so kristi noem seems to be the name in the frame they're trying to attach a load of salacious personal stuff about her private life. but kristi noem is the one to watch out for. i'd like kari lake, candace owens is . owens is. >> she'd be great. >> she'd be great. >> shall she ? she's well because >> shall she? she's well because you're not available and you had the temerity to be born in the uk. you're not to going be actually able to so we have to get a substitute in. so yeah, candace owens is looking to me anyway amongst the base . she is anyway amongst the base. she is really, really she's really popular. so she is she actually going up for that to be his running mate? >> is he likely that he could ask her if she would be fantastic tastic? that would be

what would cement a what that would cement it for a lot people. suspect 100. lot of people. i suspect 100. >> look, the thing is , right, >> look, the thing is, right, the mistake he made getting mike pence in before was there was this logic that you really need this logic that you really need this is why obama had a biden. you need an old hand. you need somebody who's familiar with all the other members of the house. he's not doing next time, he's not doing that. next time, if he wins, he's just doing scorched he's basically scorched earth. he's basically getting rid of absolutely everybody to have everybody that claims to have old so i wouldn't old relationships. so i wouldn't rule out candace owens, but kristi noem is definitely the front runner . front runner. >> she would be. oh, my goodness. would be, i think goodness. that would be, i think one his wives moves if he did one of his wives moves if he did that, because has a lot of that, because she has a lot of sway . i she's sway. and i think she's a brilliant woman . now, donald brilliant woman. now, donald trump says that going brilliant woman. now, donald trlappoint says that going brilliant woman. now, donald trlappoint a;ays that going brilliant woman. now, donald trlappoint a taskthat going brilliant woman. now, donald trlappoint a task force going brilliant woman. now, donald trlappoint a task force to going to appoint a task force to review biden's political review joe biden's political prisoners . yeah yeah. prisoners. yeah yeah. >> now, this is this is, again , >> now, this is this is, again, a really interesting one for me, you know, because obviously they're trying to say there are certain states saying that they're take him off they're going to take him off they're going to take him off the ballot because he breaches the ballot because he breaches the amendment, says the 14th amendment, which says you involved in

you can't be involved in insurrection. et cetera. okay so you can't be involved in insurreis on. et cetera. okay so you can't be involved in insurreis now t cetera. okay so you can't be involved in insurreis now sayinga. okay so you can't be involved in insurreis now saying that.ay so you can't be involved in insurreis now saying that he so you can't be involved in insurreis now saying that he is trump is now saying that he is to going appoint a task force, as you said, to investigate by dunn's political prisoners. but the only ones he's talking about at the moment are those anti—abortion campaigners who've been imprisoned. all right. because he is not saying people like the proud boys leader. et cetera . because the 14th. but cetera. because the 14th. but i think that's the dog whistle. okay. i think he is saying that people on the right, the anti—abortion campaigners, aren't quite the lead story , but aren't quite the lead story, but people like the proud boys. but he can't publicly say , i will he can't publicly say, i will look at the proud boys case again, because in the 14th amendment, it's not just indulging in an insurrection. it's giving succour or support to those who have staged an insurrection . so that might make insurrection. so that might make him ineligible. so i think he's being very, very careful and making sure that the base knows that, look, when i get in, there's a new sheriff in town and we clean up all all and we clean up all these all these awful, awful injustices .

these awful, awful injustices. but he doesn't go as far as to name them because that would leave him vulnerable to the 14th amendment and his inability they would make him ineligible to run for president at all. so that makes sense. yeah >> so it's very intricate. there well, listen, paul duddridge always to great get your view. keep us that is, of keep us posted that is, of course, duddridge. course, paul duddridge. you can catch on the politics people catch him on the politics people podcast . he is the host for podcast. he is the host for that. this is a gb news. you that. this is a gb news. if you just me. welcome on just joined me. welcome on board. more to board. there's loads more to come the next hour . it's come in the next hour. it's just coming up to 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of those big topics, hitting the headunes of those big topics, hitting the headlines right now. coming up for week's outside, my for this week's outside, my guest will be revealed very shortly, but she's a highly regarded agony aunt . she's a regarded agony aunt. she's a broadcaster and a writer. she's also known for her feminist views. she's written 15 books

and is well known as a life coach who think she is then coach who do think she is then for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking, do you believe, sir keir starmer will drag us into the eu? but drag us back into the eu? but first, let's get your latest news with ray addison . news with ray addison. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. 5:00 our top stories . the met 5:00 our top stories. the met police says it will speak to channel 4 and the sunday times after claims of rape and sexual assault were made against the comedian russell brand. a warning for those watching on television. the following footage contains flashing images . in a statement, the force said it was aware of media reports of a series of a series of allegations that had not received any police reports in relation to this . they urged relation to this. they urged anyone who believes they've been the victim of a sexual assault to contact police. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand in the mid 2000,

launched their own urgent reviews . now, a warning some reviews. now, a warning some people may find the following content distressing . content distressing. >> he was like, sir, how many people have you had sex with? and i said, no one. i've never had sex with anyone on and he got an erection straight away and he was like, oh my god. he's like, my baby, my baby. and pick me up and cradled me in his arms like a child and was stroking my hair. and he's like, you're like my little dolly . russell engaged my little dolly. russell engaged in the behaviours of a groomer looking back on it, i didn't even know what that was then or what that looked like. he would try to drive a wedge between me and my parents. taught me to lie to them . to them. >> well, russell brand denies any criminality and insists that all of his relationships have been consensual .

all of his relationships have been consensual. media all of his relationships have been consensual . media lawyer been consensual. media lawyer jonathan code told us it's crucial that these allegations are examined . are examined. >> good reporting outfits like you might not be allowed to make allegations, say some hard things. we only have to think very far back. huw edwards kevin spacey, both were the subject of huge media assaults and both both, it turns out , are both, it turns out, are innocent. so these are very, very difficult questions as to the protection of people's reputation on one hand. and the right of free speech on another i >> -- >> claims w >> claims that labour wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are complete garbage. sir keir starmer says the labour leader had indicated that he'd be open to working with brussels on managing channel crossings, which may involve taking in some asylum seekers. however sir keir says that would be as part of a deal to return channel migrants. immigration minister robert jenrick says that labour's short

term fix would mean 100,000 more illegal migrants in britain every year . illegal migrants in britain every year. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she would have done speaking at the institute for government, the former pm will defend her time in charge nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation on, according to the telegraph . ms truss will claim telegraph. ms truss will claim that under her plans , £18.4 that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved this year and next. wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads. the welsh government says that cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the welsh nhs. £92 million a year. the rac is warning drivers not to rely on satnav for the correct speed limit and instead should follow road signs. meanwhile the welsh tories say the decision will cost the welsh economy up to £89 billion and

slow down emergency services . slow down emergency services. a 48 year old man has been charged with attempted murder after a teenager was stabbed in sheffield city centre . a 14 year sheffield city centre. a 14 year old boy was taken to hospital with serious injuries to his chest following the incident, which police believe took place near sheffield's town hall. his injuries are not believed to be life threatening. the suspect will appear in court tomorrow . will appear in court tomorrow. and the met office says more than a month's rain could fall by the end of today. it's than a month's rain could fall by the end of today . it's issued by the end of today. it's issued an amber weather warning for thunderstorms across parts of devon and somerset. that means there could be a danger to life with flood water likely to damage homes and businesses as, in fact, severe flash flooding has been reported in the towns of dawlish and kenton . in devon. of dawlish and kenton. in devon. meanwhile, a yellow weather warning that's in place across the south—west of england and south wales . this the south—west of england and south wales. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your

smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to nana i >> -- >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and we're live on tv loads. still to come here on gb news at 5:00, i'm joined by celebrity, a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting career to take look at life after the to take a look at life after the job. and job. we talk highs, lows and lessons what comes lessons learnt and what comes next on the outside. now i'll give you a she's a highly give you a clue. she's a highly regarded broadcaster regarded agony aunt, broadcaster and known for and writer known for her feminist views. author of 15 books. well known as a books. she's well known as a life coach. she's also well known to readers around the uk as newspaper's as the sun's newspaper's resident psychology host, writing frequently for the paper at to native, became at khalife to native, she became at khalife to native, she became a uk citizen 21 years ago with a doctorate in psychology . she's a doctorate in psychology. she's a chartered research academic teaching psychologist, and since

2000 she's worked part time privately as a self—help expert , life coach and dating coach, tv audiences will know her from her many appearances across many shows, including 14 years running what? honestly, so much to go on. there's loads. she was also the resident behaviour expert on big brother's little brother, big brother's bit on the side and celebrity bit on the side and celebrity bit on the side. i'm joined now by psychologist and social commentator, dr. pam spurr. there was a lot there . they there was a lot there. they missed my complete menu, though. ihave missed my complete menu, though. i have a menu before i just i have a menu before ijust didn't know i'd done that many things. >> thank you for reminding me. >> thank you for reminding me. >> well , you >> thank you for reminding me. >> well, you did. so listen, it's really good to talk to you. it's good to you on it's really good to get you on because i found you online having looked at some your , having looked at some of your, you know, your gender critical views, them, views, which people call them, gender i find it gender critical views. i find it interesting that that is the comment a used for comment or a term used for someone who is just talking about biology. someone who is just talking about biology . yeah, absolutely. about biology. yeah, absolutely. >> talking about, you >> we're talking about, you know, biological fact . know, biological fact. >> right. >> right. >> and there is a debate whether

we should give up gender we should all give up gender critical say, we're critical and just say, no, we're rooted fact. we rooted in biological fact. we believe in science . believe in science. >> and i did a monologue earlier because the gmc is sort of sort of neutralising their language to make it sort more gender to make it sort of more gender neutral a moving from neutral and a moving away from the mother and sort of and the word mother and sort of and a woman and these are medical bodies that are looking after medical people who are sort of trying to deny in a sense, science or the it feels like the existence of women . existence of women. >> it's an insidious creep wing ideology. it has captured all of our major institutions. i've beenin our major institutions. i've been in a bubble until about maybe three, four years ago about this, you know, working . about this, you know, working. i've got a big extended family , i've got a big extended family, so very busy and i wish someone had kicked me up the backside like years and said, pam like ten years ago and said, pam , look is happening. i had , look what is happening. i had noidea , look what is happening. i had no idea until now. i've got three little granddaughters and one is in, you know, like year two, six and a half. and i suddenly was thinking a few years ago, this is outrageous. what is happening in schools.

and my little granddaughters are going to be told that maybe if they're gender non—conforming coming in, what we stereotypically think of little girls wanting to do and the middle one is very sporty , or middle one is very sporty, or that someone's going to whisper in their ear , you know, you may in their ear, you know, you may actually be in a boy's body. are you going to call yourself he, you going to call yourself he, you know, and him so this really got me worried . and then got me worried. and then i looked at the broader picture and saw how our women's spaces, you and i, we can go in. i know here it's, you know, mixed toilets, but that's exceptional. yeah it's a very safe place. >> and also because it's space, it's about space. >> exactly. but for you and i to go into a bathroom has happened to me out at a restaurant late at night . i go to me out at a restaurant late at night. i go in and a big, big woman comes out of the next stall and just, you know, and just kind of always it kind of it makes you just react in that gut , visceral way of what is

gut, visceral way of what is this person doing in my space? and i don't want to take my granddaughter swimming on a sunday morning and have a man dangle his privates as he's changing in the same deciding that he can come in. our women's changing room. so all these things started playing in women's rights, children's rights are lgbt rights because this ideology is also trying to crush the notion of same sex attraction . an and that is attraction. an and that is really quite shocking. so all of these things coupled together mean that this has become a bit of a mission of mine. my work is sliding. no, no, it's not really. but but yeah, and it would seem and let's be fair to some, you know, there are most trans people that i have met have been perfectly reasonable, kind, normal people. >> so i actually ask myself because even somebody messaged in saying that this isn't a person messaged in earlier saying that this is not how they

believe things to be either. so most of the trans people i've met aren't actually going along with this. so sometimes i wonder where it's coming from and why it's coming and the power of it. >> because there are people who have influential have had very influential positions in various institutions , including the now institutions, including the now , well, despicable stonewall, which was used to be the ones great stonewall which fought for lgbt rights. people with a lot of power and in the right places who are pushing this agenda. and i two, i've interviewed many trans identifying people on different radio shows of mine. all incredibly great people , all all incredibly great people, all and all respectful of boundaries. but it's the predatorial men that we never know when we come across a man who identifies as a woman. if they're a predator, those are they're a predator, those are the ones we have to worry about. and because we don't have a litmus test, well, you're a kind man who's not going to bother me in the ladies room. but you aren't . we don't have that.

aren't. we don't have that. >> well, course, the >> well, that's of course, the reason why the changing rooms were divided in that anyway. were divided in that way anyway. because men want privacy. because. that all men because. not to say that all men are those trans are predators. all those trans women absolutely it's women are absolutely all. it's just women in spaces just to protect women in spaces from men. and it's not from predatory men. and it's not all men of course, stonewall again, aren't here to defend themselves. they would argue themselves. so they would argue that they are looking for lgbt rights and looking after and doing well. >> they have become much more about the. but but you're right, they're not. >> would argue that >> but but they would argue that they doing good thing. a they are doing a good thing. a lot of people support lot of people would support them as incredible as well. they have an incredible amount find amount of support, which i find quite, amazing . quite, quite amazing. >> i just make the >> but but if i just make the point , as you >> but but if i just make the point, as you say, i believe every adult and kind of paraphrasing thing on paraphrasing jk rowling thing on this, should live this, every adult should live their best life and if there's a man who feels he wants to dress as what he thinks a woman dresses as, and he wants to act as what he thinks a woman acts, i don't care . i just don't want i don't care. i just don't want him taking my rights . exactly. him taking my rights. exactly. i don't want him barging in the ladies room or whatever you you live your best life and that is great. we all only have that one

life. and we must that. life. and we must respect that. but also must respect my but you also must respect my boundanesis but you also must respect my boundaries is what i'd say to people who want to identify as the sex. the opposite sex. >> and where you the >> and where are you with the gender ? so if somebody gender pronouns? so if somebody who is dressed as a woman wants to be called, she , are you happy to be called, she, are you happy to be called, she, are you happy to entertain that? obviously you know, you are free to make your choice you want to choice as to whether you want to go route agreeing go down the route of agreeing with that , i've given a lot with with that, i've given a lot of thought to this. >> when first came out as >> and when i first came out as gender originally three >> and when i first came out as gende ago, originally three >> and when i first came out as gende ago, three, �*iginally three >> and when i first came out as gende ago, three, four|lly three >> and when i first came out as gende ago, three, four years ree years ago, three, four years ago, and really badly ago, and i got really badly trodden, just went back, you trodden, i just went back, you know, of hid about that. know, kind of hid about that. but the year, having but in the last year, having spoken many women involved in spoken to many women involved in the movement, many incredible women, now to the women, and i've now come to the agreement and never ever on agreement and i've never ever on agreement and i've never ever on a over the last ten years a form over the last ten years since when since been happening. when they say, your pronouns i say, what's your pronouns? i leave it blank because always say, what's your pronouns? i leave it lthisz because always say, what's your pronouns? i leave it lthisz bridiculous. ways thought, this is ridiculous. even involved in even before i got involved in the movement and i will not now honour those. i'm sorry, i'm not going to buy into someone's fantasy obe or belief . i going to buy into someone's fantasy obe or belief. i just won't do it anymore because that

fuels this whole ideology . you fuels this whole ideology. you buy into one corner of it and start telling each other like, you know, things that think about the ancient cavemen and women. we always think about the man used to knock the woman on the drag them off to the head, drag them off to a cave before the of consent. cave before the age of consent. those men over millions of years of human development did not need pronouns to see who's a woman. women did not need pronouns going back through the millennia where they could be in real danger from these things . real danger from these things. women knew that it's a man and i will tread carefully, you know, because there was no age of consent back then. so through the millennia we've never had to use pronouns. why do we have to do it now? >> it does seem a bit odd because when you're talking to someone, you won't refer to them as she anyway. you do as he or she anyway. you do refer them so refer to them by name. so it's not something you'd use not something that you'd use directly speaking to directly when you're speaking to someone in any case. but let's get into you though, as a person. get into all person. why did you get into all of this? i see you're very

passionate. you're on a passionate. you're on to a subject won't it and subject you won't let it go. and i'm i'm totally with i'm with you. i'm totally with you why did you you on it. but why did you choose to go down this route? >> well, i think mainly it was first off, it was really interest about, don't interest ing about, i don't know, years heard know, five years ago i heard someone talking about in brighton, nhs trust someone talking about in brig using nhs trust someone talking about in brig using chess nhs trust someone talking about in brig using chess feeder. hs trust someone talking about in brig using chess feeder. and rust was using chess feeder. and i was using chess feeder. and i was like, why on earth? i breastfed my children, you know, my daughter breastfed hers. this is breast feeding. we are women who do this. and that was one of the first things that kind of pncked the first things that kind of pricked me even before my granddaughters were were of an age where i was thinking about school. and then also the attacks of jk rowling . i attacks of jk rowling. i remember listening to a radio presenter and he was saying, i haven't quite worked out where i stand on this, but i can't believe the flak she's getting. this was about four years ago for what she's saying. why can't she present her opinion without this horrible attacks and that's when i sort of, you know, defended her on twitter and i got the horrible attacks and was too much of a chicken then to cope with it. now trolls,

they're a dime a dozen. so i think those things really sparked my interest and piqued me, you know, so that's how i got involved. yeah. >> you've done so much. so i mean, we railed a lot of it off there when you started on your journey of getting into psychology , what was it that psychology, what was it that made you choose psychology as a path? >> well, it's interesting you asked that because originally there's a lot of medical doctors in my family and i was going to be a doctor and i took the first physiology and biology sorry, physiology and biology sorry, physiology and biology sorry, physiology and anatomy course that you have to do. and we had to dissect cats. now i am i mean, if i was going to have a gender with these gender things, i'd be the feline woman because i'd be the feline woman because i love cats. you know, i love dogs, too. but cats and i could cat . i couldn't dissect the cat. cat. i couldn't dissect the cat. no, i felt ill. and i told my parents, i said, if i can't dissect a cat, there's no way i'm going to be able to dissect a human. and my second interest was the mind. so i thought,

a human. and my second interest wastla mind. so i thought, a human. and my second interest was t! can'td. so i thought, a human. and my second interest was t! can't be so i thought, a human. and my second interest was t! can't be a i thought, a human. and my second interest was t! can't be a medical|t, well, i can't be a medical doctor. i will be a doctor of the mind. and so kind of the mind. and so that's kind of the mind. and so that's kind of the . the progress. >> and you've been a very successful well. want successful one as well. i want to ask briefly, because to ask you briefly, because we're time , but we're running out of time, but this notion of trial by this whole notion of a trial by media, talked about it media, we talked about it earlier . media, we talked about it earlier. what do you think is the psychology of people who go to the media first before actually going to police ? actually going to the police? and has it become and why why has it become such a thing now? trial ? thing now? a trial? >> yes. i know we're not >> yes. and i know we're not going to talk about what's in the right think the media right now. i think a lot of feel it's almost lot of people feel it's almost more more safe to talk to media, people who've offered them an interview than it is with the police, especially with what's happened over the last five. i've even ten years where there's been so many bad apples in the police and women get very frightened and historically they have felt they're not believed. there's a lot more things in place for victims of sexual assault and rape to make sure they are safeguarded when they decide to go to the police . but

decide to go to the police. but still, i think this has left so many women slightly to terrified of making it official that when a friend of a friend tells a tv production company they are looking for people talk about looking for people to talk about a certain person and it almost feels safer to them. so that's how i see people who go via the media to tell their story, which is a very painful and devastating story. now now, i think i hope these women will go to the police, women who take these these routes. what we need is for the police to investigate anything that comes to light and of course, we had the media recently of a you know, other presenters who have been in the press and, you know, their decisions to make statements . decisions to make statements. some of them have made statements . they feel they're statements. they feel they're getting in there first, maybe to protect their reputation. others have chosen not to make statements. so i think it's a very individual thing. but i think when it comes to women, it's much about trust ing. it's very much about trust ing. i've talk about this i've wanted to talk about this and i can trust an and i feel i can trust an interviewer who's kind of on my

side, you know, someone from a production will production company, but who will be journalistic and be journalistic about it and fact check. so that's important too. >> i could talk to you for ages. we've run out of time. if people want to find out more, where can where can they catch you? >> and well, on twitter at dr. pam or website. dr. pam pam spurr or my website. dr. pam .co.uk. thank you so much, pam. >> fascinating isn't >> fascinating woman, isn't she brilliant? that was dr. pam spurr. psychologist and spurr. she's a psychologist and social is social commentator. this is gb news. up to 19 minutes news. coming up to 19 minutes after i'm nana akua on the after 5:00. i'm nana akua on the way. the great british debate this asking , do you this hour. i'm asking, do you believe keir starmer believe sir keir starmer will drag the eu? but drag us back into the eu? but first, get update first, let's get an update with your weather that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on gb news is . gb news is. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. autumn certainly is in full swing over the next few days and even into the end of sunday. we've got some fairly hefty showers pushing their way across parts of england and wales, moving

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news britain's news . channel news britain's news. channel 24 minutes after 5:00. >> this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate this hour . and british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you believe sir keir starmer will drag us back into the eu? now the labour leader has confused the nation with plans to tackle with his plans to tackle the channel migrant crisis. earlier this said a future this week, he said a future labour government would be prepared a returns prepared to negotiate a returns agreement with the eu . the quid agreement with the eu. the quid pro quo of any such deal would be accepting quotas of migrants from the eu . and this morning from the eu. and this morning sir keir starmer appeared to backtrack. he said that the idea that the uk is going to join the eu scheme on quotas is complete nonsense. and this comes after home secretary suella braverman accused sir keir starmer of wanting to make britain a dumping ground for the eu's unwanted migrants , and after his

unwanted migrants, and after his proposal to seek a new returns deal with the eu were dismissed as delusional by european diplomats. what do you think? do you think, though, that actually he's actually trying to drag us back into the eu ? that's my back into the eu? that's my question. i'm joined now by benedict spence. he's a political commentator . dr. rakib political commentator. dr. rakib ehsan social policy analyst. peter spencer, political commentator, and peter edwards, former editor of the labour list. i'm going to start with dr. rakib hasan raqib. do you think that perhaps sir keir starmer really and truly is actually planning to drag us back in? >> absolutely no chance. >> absolutely no chance. >> nana i know that people may have reservations over the labour leader under jeremy corbyn. he was the chief architect of the disaster versus second referendum policy . second referendum policy. >> but i also think that's the reason why he will not entertain the possibility of rejoining the eu. >> the reality is, if labour concentrate on the bread and butter, the cost of living crisis in particular nana, then

they're very well positioned to win the next general election . win the next general election. >> in fact, they have an advantage over the conservative party across a range of public policy areas when it comes to whether or not the labour party is more trusted than the conservatives on those issues. i think that if they were to pledge that if they have the plans to rejoin the eu, it would destabilise all of that. >> and i think that if you actually see nana, it's in those working class brexit voting communities where labour has actually gained a lot, regained actually gained a lot, regained a lot of ground , and that one a lot of ground, and that one thing would potentially thing that would potentially undermine that is by entertaining the possibility of rejoining the european union, which by the way may be on very different terms. there may be requirements, for example, to join single which join the single currency, which wasn't were in wasn't the case when we were in the union. the european union. >> terms would >> yeah, well, the terms would definitely different. we definitely be different. we won't what we got before definitely be different. we won't spence.e got before benedict spence. >> yeah, that's exactly >> i mean, yeah, that's exactly i think that's the key i think that that's the key thing. often hear thing. we often hear increasingly, don't we, that rates disillusionment rates of brexit disillusionment and constantly on the and regret are constantly on the rise . all of these different

rise. all of these different polls people regret polls saying that people regret leaving union , but leaving the european union, but that doesn't ever mean actually that doesn't ever mean actually that what they want is to rejoin the in the form the european union in the form that would forced do. that they would be forced to do. we don't. no what we don't. we have no idea what the would be. all that we the terms would be. all that we know is what you can be pretty certain of is that they would be punitive and much anything punitive and as much as anything else, country else, i don't think the country mentally go mentally is prepared to go through rigmarole to through that rigmarole again to reopen especially through that rigmarole again to reope there especially through that rigmarole again to reope there so especially through that rigmarole again to reope there so many.pecially through that rigmarole again to reope there so many other.ly when there are so many other material issues that i think are at the forefront of people's minds. but if nothing else, i just think keir starmer is just don't think keir starmer is that dynamic. a politician to do something quite so incendiary . something quite so incendiary. you know, he has been characterised throughout his leadership by being very cautious , sensibly. so i think cautious, sensibly. so i think some would say, given the mess that he inherited. but you know, slow steady has been the slow and steady has been the sort mantra of keir sort of the mantra of keir starmer just pin out starmer to just take the pin out of grenade and go, oh, by the of a grenade and go, oh, by the way, we're going to restart the idea rejoining the european idea of rejoining the european union what happens union and let's see what happens and the electorate. and lob it into the electorate. it doesn't really in and lob it into the electorate. it character,: really in and lob it into the electorate. it character, does.y in and lob it into the electorate. it character, does it? in his character, does it? >> don't don't

>> oh, i don't know. i don't know. what you think? peter know. what do you think? peter spencer i mean, i do spencer well, i mean, i do accept the point that that starmer was labour's mr remain before the referendum and i don't imagine that the emotion scars from losing that little case will ever quite heal. >> but , but i case will ever quite heal. >> but, but i do think that the ardent brexiteers were worried about what he's going to do next. >> really should take a bit of a chill pill here because all he has suggested is a little bit more cooperation on on on channel crossings and it's probably won't work. but it's a pragmatic suggestion and remember that that sunak backed brexit but he to wherever possible has tried to find better ways of cooperating for example over intelligence gathering , over science over gathering, over science over most notably northern ireland trade agreements. and that is manifestly a far more sensible approach than johnson and truss standing on the white cliffs of dover and putting signs across the channel which might have played quite well at the back

end of battle of agincourt, end of the battle of agincourt, but doesn't well. now. those were v signs, by the >> those were v signs, by the way, if anyone's worried, apologies to anyone who thinks there's else. peter there's anything else. peter edwards well, i think there's no chance of going back in under keir starmer. >> i think there's no chance for another referendum , but one another referendum, but it's one of other contributors of the other contributors said there is a regret or regret. we can hardly say it, but there's no a public no appetite for a public referendum . i think we've had referendum. i think we've had two referenda 41 years apart, the other 1 two referenda 41 years apart, the other1 in 1975. i think there might be one in my lifetime and i'm in my 40s. but i think in the ten years absolutely no chance. and as other people have said, it's so divisive. also both only two divisive. but also both only two parties can win a general election , labour and tory, and election, labour and tory, and they would themselves be they would both themselves be divided and it doesn't divided by it. and it doesn't come polling. the top come up in polling. the top three issues are inflation. an nhs and small boats. there just isn't the appetite for another referendum . referendum. >> well, listen, thank you for your thoughts. peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist. peter spencer, political

commentator jacob asare, social policy analyst, and also benedict spence, political commentator. thank you for your views . well, what do you think? views. well, what do you think? what are their what is your views? gb gbnews.com or views? gb views gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. i'm asking do you believe sir keir starmer will drag us back into the eu? let's have a quick look at what you've david you've been saying. david says keir can. be keir starmer can. can he be trusted? absolutely not. nothing else . steve says yes. else to say. steve says yes. he'd drag us back , even if the he'd drag us back, even if the country as a whole didn't want it, because the eu is all about the greed of a few, not the many . says there's only one . derek says there's only one way we'd back and that is way we'd go back and that is through another referendum. it would be great if we went back in, but i can't see it happening. some people still thinking it was going to be good, says without good, stephen says without a doubt he will. he hasn't the strength depth to form strength or depth to form a government that capable of government that is capable of running he'll need to running the uk. he'll need to need to decisions need the eu to take decisions for well you're with me. for him. well you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with the great british

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gb news the people's. channel 37 minutes after 5:00. >> this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua . welcome. if you've just tuned in now, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you that i'm asking, do you believe that sir starmer drag us sir keir starmer will drag us back eu ? now the labour back into the eu? now the labour leader has confused nation leader has confused the nation with to tackle the with his plans to tackle the migrant crisis the channel. migrant crisis in the channel. of all constant of course, all the constant u—turns well. earlier this u—turns as well. earlier this week he said that future week he said that a future labour government would be prepared negotiate terms, prepared to negotiate terms, returns agreements with the eu. but i mean that's what we've been doing anyway. i mean, isn't that what rishi sunak is trying to do ? the quid pro quo of any to do? the quid pro quo of any such deal would be accepting terms and accepting quotas of migrants. what does that sound like to you? that sounds a little bit like sort of sort of free movement. again, this morning, sir keir starmer

appeared . he said appeared to backtrack. he said that the idea that the is that the idea that the uk is going to join the eu scheme on quotas is complete nonsense . quotas is complete nonsense. this now this comes after home secretary braverman secretary suella braverman accused starmer of wanting to make dumping ground make britain a dumping ground for the eu's unwanted migrants and after his proposal to seek a new returns deal with the eu were dismissed as delusional by the european diplomats. so for the european diplomats. so for the great british debate, this houn the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking do you believe that sir keir starmer will drag us back into the eu? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. danny kelly. i'm going to start with you, sir. keir starmer, this sort returns starmer, this sort of returns thing bit like an thing sounds a bit like an exception and sort of accepting a people from the eu. a number of people from the eu. >> do you know, it's crazy, the arrogance of the lad. he's not even minister. you even the prime minister. you know, this is another 12, 13 months that's if he months away and that's if he gets he's flying around gets elected. he's flying around europe, know europe, meeting macron. you know what's macron doing, meeting the leader opposition . he's leader of the opposition. he's

he's empowered. trudeau he's he's not empowered. trudeau and trudeau. justin trudeau. but don't always that? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori: always that? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori mean,|lways that? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori mean, inays that? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori mean, i don't that? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori mean, i don't thinkt? and trudeau. justin trudeau. but dori mean, i don't think you'll >> i mean, i don't think you'll ever see, for example, a republican lion going for the president of america, jetting around the world, meeting foreign leaders, but in this country haven't we prime country haven't we got prime ministers, former or previous prime minister? >> but he's not a former >> i know, but he's not a former or people who are going. potential. potential. >> potential. potential. >> potential. potential. >> anyway, i don't he >> yeah. okay anyway, i don't he can't win, though, can he? >> you say he's you >> i mean you say he's you didn't some people say didn't say but some people say he's not prepared etcetera etcetera. tries to prepare etcetera. he tries to prepare himself by talking to all these people himself by talking to all these peoyeah. he's coming up with >> yeah. but he's coming up with policies can't implement policies and he can't implement anything . so he's coming up with anything. so he's coming up with these international policies . these international policies. and all the europeans and of course all the europeans are basically said, what are you going about, you're not going on about, man? you're not the minister. even the prime minister. and even if you delusional. you were, it's delusional. i think their the think they were their words. the brexit has sailed. the hms brexit ship has sailed. the hms brexit ship has sailed. the hms brexit into the brexit has sailed into the distance. even distance. thank god, and even the ardent remainers , i the most ardent remainers, i believe are coming round to that. >> do you think they are? >> do you think they are? >> i do. christine. >> i do. christine. >> do think they'll. >> do you think they'll. >> do you think they'll. >> i it peter >> i do. i think it was peter edwards who just now that edwards who said just now that i think thought in his

think he thought maybe in his lifetime. massively lifetime. well, he's massively young. lifetime. well, he's massively young . he's a lifetime. well, he's massively young. he's a man. yes. young. he's a young man. yes. there might be another. but no, i the brexit ship has i think the brexit ship has sailed. unfortunately, the government to government has failed to do anything the anything about it. that's the trouble. starmer, though, trouble. and starmer, though, instead of we'll just raise the white flag , he allow us to white flag, he will allow us to be back in let it be sucked back in if we let it happen. sucked back in all the eu want to make sure is that brexit is a failure and a disaster because they want to make sure that no other european countries try to follow us. so they us to our knickers they want us to get our knickers in. monumental twist over in. a monumental twist over this. the worse it becomes this. and the worse it becomes for i fear for us, the better. and i fear that starmer may not have the cojones to stand up against that, and he might just be swept along with all sorts of things. he's now denying because he saw the backlash. he's now denying that he was to go ahead that he was going to go ahead with idea of allowing with this idea of allowing whatever the case was so weak, though is so weak. though he is so weak. >> very mean, it's awful. >> but you see, we've already i mean, happened. mean, look what's happened. we've down we've sold northern ireland down the with what's it called, the river with what's it called, the. the windsor. windsor. the. yeah, the windsor. windsor. that's have that's right. which we now have

parts of the united kingdom are governed by eu law , which is governed by eu law, which is which is mind blowing . we still which is mind blowing. we still have still the echr, etcetera, etcetera. so we're still horribly intertwined in my view and we need to stop that. we need to get we just if only this government had had more backbone and had believed in it and they hadnt and had believed in it and they hadn't got, they got so sidetracked they with, sidetracked didn't they with, with cake and lettuces with boris and cake and lettuces and you know. well i mean there internal problems. well they weren't focusing on the real issue was to bring brexit issue which was to bring brexit to a what we should have done the moment we were ready to go with the legend, we should have picked up all the eu legislation, brought it into british then taken our british law, and then taken our time to get rid of the bits we didn't want. >> that was meant to >> well, that was meant to be the they've the plan, but because they've had home and foreign had successive home and foreign secretaries just secretaries and they've just messed around with, we'll get rid on the civil rid of that one. on the civil service so then service don't like them. so then they that one and they got rid of that one and they got rid of that one and they no there's no cohesion they have no there's no cohesion is there. so you've got so many people from job job people moving from job to job within organisation, nothing people moving from job to job withidone. organisation, nothing gets done. >> have any deep seated >> i don't have any deep seated

, intransigent , almost intransigent ideological opposition to working closely with the working more closely with the european union. i don't have a problem if they say, look, we want this and you can do that. i don't have have this issue and i know you're a brexit purist and i don't have an issue working with them. >> of course we've got to work with them. we work with the rest of the world. >> but if they were to say, okay, in order for you to benefit from some of our greater whatever whatever we whatever expansive, whatever we would want you to do that and they're the terms and they're they're the terms and they're the terms that we will the only terms that we will accept to that, then accept you to do that, then i wouldn't have a problem. if you like, succumbing terms. like, succumbing to those terms. >> what the >> but that sounds like what the terms are. >> sounds correct. >> that sounds correct. >> that sounds correct. >> that sounds like the eu all over is the reason over again, which is the reason we because there was this we left, because there was this there was this very sort of binary either this or do that binary either do this or do that or nothing . so there was no way or nothing. so there was no way out of it. so we decided to do something, out it. we something, get out of it. so we could our decisions. could make our own decisions. that almost that would almost be them forcing decide on their terms. >> but what's the point ? well, >> but what's the point? well, because business, you know, because it's business, you know, i'm business away

i'm in business away from broadcasting. you broadcasting. and sometimes you have negotiate and have you have to negotiate and pinch your nose sometimes for the for the better the the for the better and the bigger picture. the for the better and the bigger piiitjre. the for the better and the bigger piiit depends what you >> well, it depends what you decided want as decided that you didn't want as to and what we to why you left and what we didn't want. so. right. what we didn't want. so. right. what we didn't exactly what didn't want was exactly what they're proposing and what keir starmer is negotiating, which is some of well, we'll take some sort of well, we'll take over think it was. he was over 13, i think it was. he was saying of the migrants. and that's 100,000 a year. that's like over 100,000 a year. if you know and if but but then you know and that's not i mean meaning the boats will stop either. so we'll have that and the boats. >> well would >> well, okay. well that would be heavily be that would be heavily caveated the negotiation if caveated in the negotiation if the don't stop. you know, the boats don't stop. you know, it's all part negotiation, it's all part of negotiation, isn't i don't see isn't it? and i don't see a problem with us negotiating and the having maybe the upper the eu having maybe the upper hand if hand on negotiate as if it benefits us that is my point because it's business. >> i don't see somebody has >> i don't see how somebody has an hand on negotiate. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit hand on negotiate. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit to nd on negotiate. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit to you n negotiate. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit to you that gotiate. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit to you that will|te. it's >> i don't see how somebody has a|benefit to you that will never; a benefit to you that will never be case because you might be be the case because you might be in position. in the weaker position. >> might the weaker >> you might be in the weaker position. and if these dinghies are going to continue for the for our lifetime, 50 are going to continue for the for60,000 our lifetime, 50 are going to continue for the for60,000 everyrr lifetime, 50 are going to continue for the for60,000 every year, time, 50 are going to continue for the for60,000 every year, then 50 are going to continue for the for60,000 every year, then we're or 60,000 every year, then we're in a weak position. >> they'll only stop if the

boats are turned back and whether or not there's an agreement not, agreement with france or not, which irrelevant me, which would be irrelevant to me, it would only stop. and there was rwanda where was somewhere like rwanda where people expecting was somewhere like rwanda where pe stay expecting was somewhere like rwanda where pe stay here expecting was somewhere like rwanda where pe stay here were expecting was somewhere like rwanda where pe stay here were taken expecting to stay here were taken elsewhere to be processed, processed, would people elsewhere to be processed, pro from d, would people elsewhere to be processed, profrom spending»uld people elsewhere to be processed, profrom spending»uld peoso off from spending the money. so that the customers that works with the customers who to their who aren't going to put their money that. also money into that. and it also means realise that means that they realise that when they'll be when they get here they'll be redirected. a waste of redirected. so it's a waste of time. >> they need know that >> they need to know that they're going to mean, they're not going to be. i mean, what did drives people insane what did it drives people insane is all welcomed is seeing that all welcomed on these . it just given a these shores. it just given a mobile and given this and mobile phones and given this and that other blankets that and the other and blankets were they're cold were fine if they're cold they're hotel rooms where they're given hotel rooms where nice of course nice nice people of course we're nice people, got to be people, but we've got to be firm. can't afford to look firm. we can't afford to look after our own people and give them a blanket house them. we can't them health can't give them a decent health service. can't give them a decent health senwe. do what france do. >> we should do what france do. have tent city station, turn have a tent city station, turn them around, turn the boats around. and they actually they they refugee camps. and they have refugee camps. and these but sturdy these are strong but sturdy tents , which is why they don't tents, which is why they don't want to stay there. that's why they come here. but listen, today been asking, do you today i've been asking, do you believe keir starmer will believe sir keir starmer will

drag eu? drag us back into the eu? lots of you been getting in of you have been getting in touch views. martin touch with your views. martin says go dancing says drag will go dancing back due results due to the due to the results due to the benefits of being in the eu. yes says margaret, either blatantly or by the back door adrian says, i don't trust this man with anything . and deborah says, of anything. and deborah says, of course he will. he said as much when he asked for too much. well but this show is nothing without you. and your views. so it's time to bring on our great british voices, their opportunity on the show opportunity to be on the show and what they think and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics that we're discussing have i got discussing. how many have i got today? four you? today? have i got four of you? where i've three where are they? i've got three of all right . where are they? i've got three of all right. i'm going to of you. all right. i'm going to start with david bohm. david >> hello, nana right. >> hello, nana right. >> starmer like tony blair >> keir starmer like tony blair wants to open the doors for the whole of europe. would only be 100,000 coming in from eastern europe . how many came in keir europe. how many came in keir starmer ? who is talking to the starmer? who is talking to the minority of metropolitan london who still want europe? brexit they cannot accept that brexit has gone and sailed away and we're moving on. we have to have

a cohesive policy . we where like a cohesive policy. we where like you said, and i happen to agree a long time, that we said anyone that arrives in this in the uk as an illegal migrant , not as an illegal migrant, not illegal and illegal, they have basically paid the shippers to send them to rwanda, let them be processed . and if they have processed. and if they have a case, then bring them back here. otherwise settle in rwanda. >> exactly . exactly right. let's >> exactly. exactly right. let's go to alan mcneely. he's there in grimsby. alan afternoon, nana i don't think that he'll directly try to take us back into the eu, but like many, i suspect that he'll try to tie us at the hip in any way that he possibly can. >> i think one of the more interesting things that starmer has said recently was when he was asked about whether he would rather be in davos or westminster, and he said he'd rather be in davos. so what's going on there? one wonders at the end of the day. but i don't think you could trust the man as far as you could throw a banana to be quite honest. >> did say davos . he wasn't

>> he did say davos. he wasn't afraid say that. webb afraid to say that. lee webb there i don't there in bedford. yeah i don't think keir starmer will take us back into the eu for a start. >> there's no appetite amongst the british population for it, especially when what the eu want require of us to join back up is put on the table. >> however , i think there's >> however, i think there's scope for him to make some bad deals with the eu that aren't really good for us, and i think that's where the danger is going to come because he doesn't need a mandate from the public for that. yeah you make that. yeah i think you make a good point there. >> i'm not fooled by >> and i'm not i'm not fooled by those who say, oh no, we don't mind. we're happy with the brexit now. we'll accept. i don't believe that. david in watford, much. watford, thank you very much. alan lee in alan in grimsby and lee in bedford. you. well, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to rd. you. well, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a. you. well, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a story you. well, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a story that u. well, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a story that caught, moving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a story that caught my)ving alan in grimsby and lee in be�*to a story that caught my eye] on to a story that caught my eye earlier today, discussed it at earlier today, i discussed it at the 3 to 4:00, but today, wales. wales has become the first country the introduce country in the uk to introduce 20 an speed limits for 20 mile an hour speed limits for their residential roads. the welsh government say cutting the limit protect lives limit from 30 will protect lives and save the nhs. wales £92

million a year. the rac is warning that drivers to not rely on satnav because it does tell you what the speed is and it's often not correct and instead follow the road signs . so let's follow the road signs. so let's see what my panellists make of that one. danny and christine. danny, with that one. danny and christine. danr20 with that one. danny and christine. danr20 miles with that one. danny and christine. danr20 miles an with that one. danny and christine. danr20 miles an hour with that one. danny and christine. danr20 miles an hour vslow. you. 20 miles an hour too slow. >> any motorists out there will know is keep know how difficult it is to keep an eye on the road, keep an eye on the speedo. you'll be pumping out more co2 or no to emissions because you're going to be in a in a relatively difficult gear. you're be in third gear you're going to be in third gear because some second or because some cars second or third going third gear. so you're going to be a load be pumping a load out the tailpipe. and i hate all of this emotional he's now emotional blackmail. he's now saying lives will saved saying that lives will be saved and that i think and he's now saying that i think the £90 million. the figure was £90 million. okay. saying is okay. so what he's saying is that it costs the welsh nhs 90 odd million pounds every year in unnecessary road deaths. and he's determined that between whether child would or an whether a child would or an aduu whether a child would or an adult have saved adult would have been saved at 20 compared to 30 20 miles an hour compared to 30 miles i don't believe miles an hour, i don't believe that that mile hour that that ten mile an hour difference nhs 90 odd difference cost the nhs 90 odd million pounds wales each million pounds in wales each year wonder how how do they work

>> i wonder how how do they work that paying for christine? >> well, labour's had a labour, wales has had a labour government for 25 years and they are in the economic slow lane, they are bottom of all the leagues that matter, whether it's or education. et it's health or education. et cetera. et cetera. and he now seems determined take them seems determined to take them back era. i back to the flintstone era. i mean, in 1865 we had the mean, it was in 1865 we had the red flag act when barney rubble over there . motorcars first came over there. motorcars first came in saying that cars had to have a man with a red flag walking in front of them because they were so dangerous. and the first so dangerous. and the very first london run, which london to brighton run, which was in 1896, 30 years later, was called the emancipation run, which to celebrate great locomotives being able to go at more than four miles per hour. i mean, this is so ridiculous. what i want to know is most people in a 30 mile limit, they're not going to go vastly above 30. maybe they think that by making it 20, people will go 30. but it's the people who go at and 60in limits that at 50 and 60in these limits that caused damage and caused the caused the damage and caused the problems nhs . i don't

problems to the nhs. i don't believe either. believe that figure either. i don't believe the revenue in speeding nonsense . speeding fines nonsense. >> are going to >> speeding fines are going to go roof. go through the roof. >> they're going to get money from wales. from 35% of wales. >> are covered 35. it's >> roads are covered by 35. it's not tolerable. >> they're going a lot >> they're going to make a lot of money of the revenue this of money out of the revenue this well. let's move on to supplements my supplements sunday where my panel and discussed of panel and i discussed some of the that have the news stories that have caught eye. going caught their eye. i'm going to start you're start with danny again. you're talking about someone becoming a millionaire overnight, unexpectedly was was gillespie, who was 18, was fortunate to be given an fortunate enough to be given an £8,900 check from his grandmother , put it into his grandmother, put it into his nationwide account nationwide, very helpfully, added on three zeros. >> so overnight he had 8 million, £900,000. he woke up , million, £900,000. he woke up, he checked his online statement. he couldn't believe it. he was telling his mum how he was to going spend all. his mum going spend it all. his mum said, can't spend said, whoa, son, you can't spend it. indeed it's illegal. it. and indeed it's illegal. it's called theft by finding if anyone thinks , oh, they're going anyone thinks, oh, they're going to million, but he's 80, to get £8 million, but he's 80, 18 is oh, he's18, he's only teenagen >>i teenagen >> ithought teenagen >> i thought if you're 80 you might as well. >> and his mum says oh he

thought his birthdays came thought all his birthdays came at once . at once. >> i t- w if they gave him at once. >> i if they gave him any >> i wonder if they gave him any any interest for just to any interest for a while just to soften the blow of discovering it wasn't. well this is the bbc radio six. music is played a track by a band called dream nails. dream nails. oh, well, maybe it's that sort of nail. i don't know which features the lyric and i can hardly believe this kick turfs all day don't break a sweat. now, for those of you who don't know a turf , i'm a you who don't know a turf, i'm a turf. nana is a turf. it's a trans exclusionary, radical feminist . trans exclusionary, radical feminist. it's trans exclusionary, radical feminist . it's somebody who feminist. it's somebody who thinks that a woman is a woman, basically. it's a it's unbelievable . anyway, this is unbelievable. anyway, this is the bbc, which refuses to play songs by rashid murphy because she criticise lead singer for moloko. this is absolutely and to allow a song that goes out saying kick turfs all day don't break a sweat, which is basically encouraging violence against women is frankly typical. bbc well, now they'd argue that it's a song. well of course they would, but i think it's pretty unacceptable. it's

only bbc six, whatever that is how. >> now. >> but listen, finally on to my supplement . american xl bully supplement. american xl bully dogs will not eat. their owners will not face a cull of their pets following a ban on the dogs. questions been dogs. but questions have been raised campaigners the raised by campaigners about the practicality ban on the practicality of the ban on the dogs. after rishi sunak's announcement earlier week. announcement earlier this week. so mean , these are these dogs so i mean, these are these dogs that a face like a man, a that have a face like a man, a body like a lion , and they're body like a lion, and they're about ten stone and they will, if they latch their jaws on to you, as we saw earlier in birmingham this week, they will kill potentially . and they did. kill potentially. and they did. two of them killed a grown man, big in the garden of his in big man in the garden of his in the garden of mum's . the garden of his mum's. christine, what do you think of this? they banned? christine, what do you think of this! they banned? christine, what do you think of this! think they banned? christine, what do you think of this! think it's1ey banned? christine, what do you think of this! think it's difficultanned? christine, what do you think of this! think it's difficult to red? christine, what do you think of this! think it's difficult to ban >> i think it's difficult to ban an entire breed. and if an entire higher breed. and if you're going to ban them, then i think there are probably other breeds if you're breeds you should ban. if you're going the criteria by going to take the criteria by which other which you would ban them. other dogs have been known to kill people, haven't they ? i don't people, haven't they? i don't like idea. there all like that idea. there are all sorts about, you know , sorts of ideas about, you know, neutering all the that are neutering all the ones that are around and letting them slowly

dry to out . dry out to die out. >> think they should be >> but i think they should be banned. think they're bred for banned. i think they're bred for violence. i think it's pathological. and i don't believe people say the believe when people say it's the owners, a bad owner, not owners, it's a bad owner, not a bad dog. these dogs are violent dogs. unfortunately , if you dogs. and unfortunately, if you meet owner that's allowing it meet an owner that's allowing it to be more violent, then it's a recipe disaster. should they to be more violent, then it's a recculled?!isaster. should they to be more violent, then it's a recculled? unfortunatelyd they to be more violent, then it's a recculled? unfortunatelyd think to be more violent, then it's a recclshould, nfortunatelyd think to be more violent, then it's a recclshould, because :elyd think to be more violent, then it's a recclshould, because what's|ink they should, because what's going to happen in six years time another 52 year old time when another 52 year old bloke is torn pieces like he time when another 52 year old blokin s torn pieces like he time when another 52 year old blokin staffordshire?es like he was in staffordshire? >> what about pit bull terriers as do we ban those as as well? do we ban those as well? they've killed insurance and insurance licencing. well? they've killed insurance ancthe insurance licencing. well? they've killed insurance ancthe insurance |ce licencing. well? they've killed insurance ancthe insurance andicencing. well? they've killed insurance ancthe insurance and licence. well? they've killed insurance ancth

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any police reports in relation to this. they urged anyone who believes they've been the victim of a sexual assault to contact police. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand in the mid 2000, launched their own urgent reviews. russell brand denies any criminality and insists all of his relationships have been consensual . claims that labour consensual. claims that labour wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are complete garbage. sir keir starmer says the labour leader had indicated he'd be open to working with brussels on managing channel crossings, which may involve taking in some asylum seekers. but sir keir says that would be as part of a deal to return channel migrants immigration minister robert jenrick says labour's short term fix would mean 100,000 more illegal migrants in britain every year . illegal migrants in britain every year. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she