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this. they urged anyone who to this. they urged anyone who believes they've been the victim of a sexual assault to contact police. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand in the mid 2000, launched their own urgent reviews. russell brand denies any criminality and insists all of his relationships have been consensual . claims that labour consensual. claims that labour wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are complete garbage. sir keir starmer says the labour leader had indicated he'd be open to working with brussels on managing channel crossings, which may involve taking in some asylum seekers. but sir keir says that would be as part of a deal to return channel migrants immigration minister robert jenrick says labour's short term fix would mean 100,000 more illegal migrants in britain every year . illegal migrants in britain every year. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she
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would have done . speaking at the would have done. speaking at the institute for government , the institute for government, the former prime minister will defend her time in charge. nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation as according to the telegraph, ms truss will claim that under her plans , £18.4 that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved. this year and next. wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for residential roads . the welsh government says roads. the welsh government says cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the welsh nhs £92 million a year. the welsh tories , however, say the welsh tories, however, say the decision will slow down emergency services and negatively impact people's livelihoods . and the met office livelihoods. and the met office says more than a month's rain could fall by the end of today . could fall by the end of today. an amber weather warning for thunderstorms is in place across parts of devon and somerset. severe flash flooding has been
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reported in the towns of dawlish and kenton . both of those are in and kenton. both of those are in devon and flights have been cancelled at exeter airport. meanwhile a yellow warning is in place across south—west england and south wales . place across south—west england and south wales. this is . place across south—west england and south wales . this is . gb and south wales. this is. gb news across the united kingdom on your television, in your car, on your television, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news it's time for the news now it's time for the camilla tominey show . camilla tominey show. >> good morning and welcome to the camilla tominey show. lovely to have your company this morning again. we've got a jam packed 90 minutes for you. i'm going to be speaking to sir robert buckland, former robert buckland, the former justice secretary, because there have in the news have been a lot in the news about, well ,
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have been a lot in the news about, well, i think prisons , about, well, i think prisons, shoplifting. become shoplifting. have we become a nafion shoplifting. have we become a nation of shoplifters.7 and also , of course, the xl bully ban. i'll be discussing all that with him and a bit on tory infighting as well, because, you know, no week without tories week goes by without tories being other's throats being at each other's throats about something or other. i'm also to speaking to pat also going to be speaking to pat mcfadden, described as the most powerful people powerful labour mp most people have and i'm have never heard of and i'm going to be discussing all things london with susan hall. she's the candidate for the she's the tory candidate for the mayor london. wants to mayor of london. she wants to defeat khan. i'm going to defeat sadiq khan. i'm going to discuss chances with a discuss her chances with her a little on. also going little later on. i'm also going to political update from to get a political update from across the atlantic because i'm going to speaking to going to be speaking to stephanie grisham, a stephanie grisham, who's a former press former white house press secretary trump. and secretary to donald trump. and you miss and you won't want to miss this. and a follow to my exclusive a follow up to my exclusive interview legendary interview with legendary broadcaster stewart interview with legendary broaweekend. stewart interview with legendary broaweekend. i'll stewart interview with legendary broaweekend. i'll sspeaking last weekend. i'll be speaking with sally stewart , with his wife, sally stewart, about dementia about alice's shock dementia diagnosis . this. but now i'm diagnosis. this. but now i'm joined formerjustice joined by former justice secretary mp for south secretary and mp for south swindon robert buckland. swindon sir robert buckland. robert. to see you this robert. lovely to see you this morning. thank you forjoining morning. thank you for joining me. started me. let's just get started because with your legal hat on,
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you're a former lawyer. you were justice secretary. can we talk about russell brand about this? russell brand situation? some people situation? i mean, some people are saying, look, is trial are saying, look, this is trial by media. he hasn't had an adequate of reply . adequate right of reply. questions are being asked of some the broadcasters that some of the broadcasters that employed happened employed him. this all happened on channel 4, the on their watch. channel 4, the bbc. your reaction to the bbc. what's your reaction to the story, ? story, robert? >> well , i story, robert? >> well, i think all of us have to react with some shock about these revelations , revelations, these revelations, revelations, because they involve very , very because they involve very, very serious matters involving very young women in many respects. and you know, i can't imagine anything more serious in terms of the conduct alleged conduct of the conduct alleged conduct of a of a of a major figure who is well known in public life for star. look, i mean , i don't know star. look, i mean, i don't know whether there are ongoing criminal proceedings. >> it doesn't sound we're waiting to hear , but we're waiting to hear, but we're waiting to hear, but we're waiting to hear whether the police investigate. but should channel 4 and the bbc investigate themselves as well ?
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investigate themselves as well? >> look, i think that actually it's probably the hallmark of a of a more open system and broadcast to allow teams within their own organisation to do that. however we know that the path here is a rather chequered one. we've seen this before with the bbc where units go off and do things unilaterally and then and then things disappear into a sort of miasma of indecision. and then things disappear into a sort of miasma of indecision . i sort of miasma of indecision. i think the savile case was, was was was was an appalling example of that. and i very much hope here that that we do get clarity and that victims of crime get justice as that surely has got to be in everybody's interests . to be in everybody's interests. and, you know , i mean, the news and, you know, i mean, the news is dominated by it today. i think it's really important that we now give complainants the space and the time to make their complaints or not. and then for due process to take place as as
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this country is renowned for. >> let's also now move on to another big story in today's papers. and it's been big all week. this xl bully ban that rishi sunak has suggested. now, it's being said that actually when you consider that some of these dogs are puppies, a lot of them been in bred. there seems to be kind of something in the bloodline that makes them more aggressive. of dogs aggressive. one of the dogs associated that associated with the dogs that have uk is called have come to the uk is called killer kimbo. should actually the dogs that the country the dogs that are in the country now culled to avoid any more now be culled to avoid any more humans killed? humans being killed? >> think we've got >> well, look, i think we've got to look at this because to look at this urgently because what worried about is if we what i'm worried about is if we get precise here get a precise definition here and ban the dog, are we and then ban the dog, are we actually covering ing the various breeds and the various mutations that might exist out there in an adequate way ? what there in an adequate way? what i don't want to see is, is the law falling into disrepute and not keeping pace with the reality of the situation. >> so do you advocate a cull then? well look, i think we've got to put safety first.
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>> and frankly, we've seen some horrendous incidents and incidents as well involving owners. you know, i think people are saying, oh, it's all about the owners. some of the owners of these dogs themselves have been attacked or killed. been attacked or even killed. and i don't i don't think that's the right approach. and therefore, you know, looking at therefore, you know, looking at the horrendous scenes that we've we're seeing some now , i think we're seeing some now, i think action has to be taken in in order to deal with this problem. >> for people listening at home, we're just looking at footage of the took place in the attack that took place in birmingham. like birmingham. what about like agencies sir robert ? >> well, 7- >> well, we ? >> well, we had 7 >> well, we had licences until the late 80s. i mean, there were quite a low amount of money even then , and a lot of dog owners then, and a lot of dog owners just didn't have them. i think licences in principle are a great idea. you know, i think i think it would reinforce the point of responsible ownership. but they've got be enforced. but they've got to be enforced. and therefore we whole and therefore, we need a whole new apparatus do that. are we new apparatus to do that. are we going to be able to fund that properly? will the cost of licences be prohibitive ? i know licences be prohibitive? i know they've got them in republic
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they've got them in the republic of ireland. i certainly think we should have another look. it's now 40 years since we had now nearly 40 years since we had them. clearly, can't go them. clearly, we can't just go back old system. no, but back to the old system. no, but concept ownership concept of responsible ownership of is one that i think most of dogs is one that i think most of dogs is one that i think most of us in this country take hugely seriously . you know, hugely seriously. you know, millions of people have and do a job. but i think we should look at this as well. >> so, robert, i must ask you about the escape of daniel khalife. lots has been said about the state of our prison system. you were justice secretary. why do you have to take some responsibility for what at wandsworth and what happened at wandsworth and the of our prisons ? the state of our prisons? >> well, work very hard in my >> well, i work very hard in my years as justice secretary to increase funding, and we did that. increased both revenue that. we increased both revenue funding staffing in our funding and staffing in our prisons and the prison building programme as well, which is ongoing billions of pounds into new prisons being built. look, this is a system under pressure. i don't pretend it was easy i don't pretend that it was easy when my time in fact, we had to deal with covid, which was a huge challenge which we managed to i think pretty well
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to negotiate i think pretty well . and worked very hard on . and staff worked very hard on that. i think the issue this was an unusual and almost unprecedented daring escape. i think that what it's done is shone a light upon the scale of the task in our prisons and the hard job that it there do . hard job that it there do. >> isn't there a perception, though, sir robert, that nothing much changes? i mean , i remember much changes? i mean, i remember going into prisons a decade ago and issues. we and they had these issues. we also i spoke to your successor , also i spoke to your successor, alex chalk, last week. and i sort of asked him about the court backlog. and it's the same in crown court since covid. it's 62,000 cases. so there's this sense that nothing has changed under the conservatives , which under the conservatives, which is really damaging for you as a party hoping to win the next general election on. >> well, look, i think that's that's not right. i think that in terms of the reforms that i made to make sure that people stay behind bars for longer, particularly serious, violent and offenders, that was and sexual offenders, that was and sexual offenders, that was an part reversal of an important part reversal of labour's policy of releasing people at halfway. no matter
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what offence was . and i what their offence was. and i make no apology for that. what i do think is that across the board and this applies to both parties , we need invest more parties, we need to invest more in the justice system. it's often forgotten, it's unfashionable , it's less, it's unfashionable, it's less, it's you hear less about it than you do schools and hospitals. and yet it is a hallmark of our society. so if i was still in office, of course i'd be banging the drum very, very strongly to get more resources for courts and prisons. i managed to make some progress in my time, but we need to do more. >> mean, the police are >> i mean, the police are blaming austerity cuts under the conservatives for what to conservatives for what seems to be a breakdown when it comes to deaung be a breakdown when it comes to dealing with level crime. dealing with low level crime. we've got the mail on sunday now's launched a campaign try now's launched a campaign to try and catch shoplifters . i mean, and catch shoplifters. i mean, last time i checked, should last time i checked, that should have job. what's have been coppers job. what's this that's this whole situation that's happened people being happened with people not being criminalised nicking stuff criminalised for nicking stuff up to £200? what's happened is under the conservatives, people seem given carte seem to have been given carte blanche to thieve . blanche to thieve. >> well, i think that the current situation with
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shoplifting is unacceptable. i deal with the issue locally here in my constituency. i think that it's in my constituency. i think that wsfime in my constituency. i think that it's time for everybody . the big it's time for everybody. the big shop networks, plus the police , shop networks, plus the police, to take this seriously . you to take this seriously. you know, we got shop workers on the front line are doing their level to best combat this crime. and who do not feel supported. and that's why i think now it's up to each police force in the local area to really come come together and bear down on this crime. we know that in most towns and cities it's a hard core of, i'm afraid , a group of core of, i'm afraid, a group of habitual offenders , many of whom habitual offenders, many of whom might have a drugs addiction . we might have a drugs addiction. we know who these people are in the main and organised shoplifting as well . let's crack down on as well. let's crack down on that because in my belief is that, you know, it's like the broken window theory, isn't it? yes. we heard in new york years ago, if you deal with the crimes at that end of the spectrum , at that end of the spectrum, then you start to see, you know, towns and cities improve and a
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whole attitude change. so zero tolerance. oh, absolutely . you tolerance. oh, absolutely. you know, it's shoplifting is theft. it is a crime with a penalty of up to seven years of imprison moment. and i think that it's now time for the police and everybody concerned to work hard to bear down on this on this menace , frankly, is affecting menace, frankly, is affecting towns and cities. lovely to have your company this morning. >> thank you so much for your time. that's sir robert butler, the former justice . the former justice. secretary that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. hope you are able to enjoy the weekend. although the rather damp end for many of us is
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setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during new working week, during the new working week, even the end sunday, even into the end of sunday, some heavy thunderstorms possible parts possible across parts of southeast torrential southeast england. torrential downpours. take care downpours. so you just take care if are travelling there if you are travelling there overnight. rain if you are travelling there over be ht. rain if you are travelling there over be turning rain if you are travelling there over be turning more rain if you are travelling there overbe turning more persistent will be turning more persistent and heavy as well for western scotland. parts north—west scotland. parts of north—west england, underneath all the cloud many us, it cloud around for many of us, it will be warm. will be rather warm. temperatures holding around temperatures holding up around 12 a very mild start 12 to 17 c. so a very mild start to monday morning. and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of the thunderstorms as well, them off, out well, clearing them off, out into north rain will be into the north sea. rain will be most for parts of most persistent for parts of north—east scotland. but behind most persistent for parts of norththere scotland. but behind most persistent for parts of norththere willtland. but behind most persistent for parts of norththere will bed. but behind most persistent for parts of norththere will be somet behind that, there will be some brighter intervals developing that, there will be some bringith ntervals developing that, there will be some bringith aervals developing that, there will be some bringith a scatteringeloping still with a scattering of rather sharp showers watch rather sharp showers to watch out for, though, temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c as we head into the middle parts of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its way in. so blustery winds developing for a good chunk of wales, england and northern ireland. gales northern ireland. coastal gales in will be in places. and it will be bringing band of rain bringing this band of rain initially northern
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question. i'm delighted to be joined by shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, shadow minister of the cabinet office and labour national campaign coordinator the cabinet office and labour nat mcfadden.aign coordinator pat mcfadden. >> lovely to see you this morning. thank you forjoining morning. thank you for joining me. let's just start with the revelations about russell brand. should ed should your colleague ed miliband apologise for cosying up to this alleged rapist ahead of the 2015 election ?
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of the 2015 election? >> well, these allegations have just emerged and they're really serious in terms of what happens with them. i don't know if there'll be court action or charges brought . what i would charges brought. what i would say is the illustrate the need for the criminal justice system to take allegations of violence against women and girls really seriously. the prosecution rates right now are far too low . right now are far too low. victims don't have confidence to come forward and we will make a big priority of this at the next election. we have proposals for specialist rape courts , for specialist rape courts, for support for victims in police forces, and we want to send a strong signal to everyone in the criminal justice system that crimes like this need to be taken seriously and victims need to be supported and have the confidence to come forward . confidence to come forward. >> ed okay. i mean, presumably you won't be inviting him to
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endorse your campaign come 20, 24. let's move on to one of your key policy announcements. mr mcfadden . i think keir starmer mcfadden. i think keir starmer is tried to clarify his approach to immigration. he's saying that labour does not want to join the eu's own migration scheme, but it still begs the question and this is what i think our viewers and listeners are trying to get and listeners are trying to get an answer to under this idea of taking in some eu migrants in return for sending people back across the channel how many migrants are we talking about? he's avoiding the word quota , he's avoiding the word quota, but we don't have any numbers at all. so can you give us number? >> no, and i don't think it will work like that. i mean, what my colleague, the shadow home secretary yvette cooper, has talked about is , is children talked about is, is children with strong family links to the uk and so on. but i think you've also got to put this in the light of what happens now. no one gets returned. they're all staying in hotels and we're spending £2 billion a year on it. the system completely
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it. the system is completely failing . we have no returns failing. we have no returns agreement like that at all. so the counterfactual to sitting down and talking about some limited specific cases is we don't return anyone. we have a growing backlog and a massive cost to the taxpayer . and that's cost to the taxpayer. and that's the situation. the failing situation right now. >> but if you have a returns agreement, you have to have numbers in mind. agreement, you have to have numbers in mind . you surely must numbers in mind. you surely must have a cap in your own mind or even like a scale of how many migrants you think it's acceptable to accept into this country and how many should be returned the channel returned across the channel >> no, you don't. you don't have to sit down and talk about that kind of thing because as you're talking about this , as though we talking about this, as though we were going to take part in an eu wide quota system, i have to break it to you. there are some eu member states who don't even want to take part that, let want to take part in that, let alone the uk. >> so that's a really good point, though, mr mcfadden. why is sir keir trying to have this
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scheme that kind of seems to ape what the eu is doing and yet poland is against it, hungary is against it. meanwhile there are other eu countries, denmark is one of them that's now flirting with the idea of processing its own migrants in rwanda and yet you've opposed that scheme. so you've opposed that scheme. so you want to cosy up to the idea that the eu have that you agree with, but not those that you don't. it look even if this rwanda scheme ever got off the ground and i'm not sure it will do, it will not take anything like the 50,000 people that are currently staying in hotels at a cost, at a cost of £2 billion a year for the taxpayer , let alone year for the taxpayer, let alone the numbers elsewhere in the system that aren't staying in hotels as so the current situation is failing and the government, even if they got this rwanda scheme off the ground and who knows whether they will, it's all tied up in they will, it's all tied up in the courts. >> it's not going to take
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anything like those numbers. so you're still left with the problem what to do with this problem of what to do with this backlog. and the thing backlog. and the other thing that that should happen that we said that should happen in recent we have to in recent days is we have to process these claims much more quickly, hire the people to do it. it would be money. well spent because not doing that is adding to these costs as i said, £2 billion a year in hotels as a result of not processing the claims or having any returns , claims or having any returns, even agreement to send a proportion of these people back at all. >> i'm glad that you've mentioned this idea of migrants being hosted in hotels, because my colleague patrick christys carried out an investigation earlier in the week where he discovered that labour run eaung discovered that labour run ealing council has been housing people on the housing list in shipping containers . is that shipping containers. is that right ? it well, i don't know right? it well, i don't know about the specific story, but all of this shows the pressure that the accommodation system is unden >> you know, a few years ago, in
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fact, you know, probably less than that, there were little or no asylum seekers housed in hotels . now it's 50,000, by the hotels. now it's 50,000, by the way. the number in hotels has gone up 20% since the prime minister said he would stop the boats. that's how successful his plan is right now. >> i know, but it's just surprising that you'd have a labour run council ealing housing people in barely habitable conditions inns while at the same time complaining about migrants being in hotels . about migrants being in hotels. actually, migrants seem to be being up in better being put up in better accommodation than people living here have come here legally here who have come here legally and end up living under labour run ealing council in squalid conditions . conditions. >> well, look, i think it's about dangerous. when we start seeing who's getting better conditions and who's not the point of this, well, you'd want legal immigrants to have better conditions than illegal ones, wouldn't you ? the point of the wouldn't you? the point of the system should be to process these claims to see who's legal and who's not, to see who's got
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and who's not, to see who's got a legitimate claim and who isn't at the moment, a legitimate claim and who isn't at the moment , that is not at the moment, that is not happening. and that's what's led to this huge number of people staying in hotels at the cost of £2 billion a year. the tories right now are presiding over a system which is failing to process people. it's costing the taxpayer a fortune and it's not secure because it's being run by people smugglers. they are failing right now. and we need a more practical approach to deal with this . with this. >> i read in the week in the guardian that starmer is apparently to talking sadiq khan about ulez . what's he saying . about ulez. what's he saying. >> well, these things are devolved issues. it's a policy for the mayor you know, it's not a policy of the national labour party . and i'm sure the mayor party. and i'm sure the mayor has had a good dialogue with keir starmer about it. >> would you like to ape what labour have done in wales and introduce more 20 mile an hour zones ? zones? >> no, i wouldn't. why is that?
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>> no, i wouldn't. why is that? >> is that the wrong decision for mark drakeford to have taken then again, it's a devolved decision. >> we have this devolution where in parts of the country, whether it's a mayor or whether it's the government in wales where they've got power over something, they take the decision means what i'm responsible for is labour's national campaign for the next election. that proposal will not be in the manifesto next time and around the country, different councils are taking different councils are taking different decisions. have been tory councils that have put in practise 20 mile an hour zones as well. but it will not be a thing in our manifesto as a national policy for the whole uk i >> -- >> final question, mr mcfadden. again you've been described in the guardian as pure new labour. is that the kind of manifesto you're coming up with then? is it? blair blairism? mark to. >> well , it? blair blairism? mark to. >> well, you'll have to see when it's announced. i mean, i think these labels are a bit old
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fashioned myself , 16 years since fashioned myself, 16 years since mr blair left office, as we've got a new leader for new times. and what i'm pleased about is that the labour party is going to be a changed party from the one that was offered to the electorate in 2019, much more facing the public, rolling our sleeves up and trying to stop the mess that would be created by a fifth term of the tories. >> mr mcfadden, lovely to speak to you this morning. thank you for joining me.
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gb news radio. >> welcome back to the camilla tominey show. lovely to see you on this sunday morning. now i'm joined by susan hall, who's a member of the london assembly and of course, the tory candidate for mayor of london. she's woman trying to take she's the woman trying to take on khan. let's started
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on sadiq khan. let's get started because on my people's because gary, on my people's panel asked what you would panel has asked what you would do if you got elected. >> i'd stop the expansion on day one, i've pledged that and one, and i've pledged that and that would you that would happen. would you reverse the congestion charge? >> ltns. reverse the congestion charge? >> ltnsltn ans are within the >> ltn. ltn ans are within the control of the local councils, but i would absolutely do everything i could to get them removed . removed. >> and obviously the labour attack line on that, particularly with regard to the ulez expansion, is that it was bofis ulez expansion, is that it was boris johnson's tories idea. >> yes, but that's a ridiculous argument. brought for in argument. it was brought for in the of london and talking the centre of london and talking to that live in inner to people that live in inner london, they are happy with it, but they've got buses at but then they've got buses at the end of their roads, they've got tube stations everywhere. those in the those of us that live in the outskirts london just do not outskirts of london just do not have the same of public have the same offer of public transport. and that's the difference. and that's what sadiq just not understand. >> and the other thing that has got tearing their hair got motorists tearing their hair out of introduction out is all of the introduction of the 20 mile an hour zones, out is all of the introduction of th and mile an hour zones, out is all of the introduction of th and surrounds.our zones, out is all of the introduction of th and surrounds. yeszones, out is all of the introduction of th and surrounds. yes people road and surrounds. yes people getting fined because they've gone at 22. i mean, sometimes at
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night, by the way, i think we can understand 20 mile an hour zones near schools , peak times. zones near schools, peak times. but what think? i mean, but what do you think? i mean, would you rip all those out, but what do you think? i mean, would you rip all those out , the would you rip all those out, the 20 an hour zones places 20 mile an hour zones in places like you've said, the finchley road ridiculous. road are ridiculous. >> do wonder if that's a >> and i do wonder if that's a cash grab as well, which of course, the ulez expansion. absolutely you say absolutely is. why do you say that? because £200 million has been put into the budget that they think that they'll get from it from the first this is it from the first year. this is nothing the poorest nothing but a tax on the poorest of londoners. >> but sadiq khan will insist that to try make the that this is to try and make the london air cleaner and to save lives. >> yes, but his own impact assessment done by tfl or commissioned by tfl says it will make virtually no difference whatsoever , but it is making whatsoever, but it is making a big difference to those families that simply cannot afford to replace their cars to thousand pound scrappage scheme. we both know camilla does not buy you a compliant car. i mean, he just doesn't listen, doesn't understand . it's a tax on poorer london. >> you also agree again from gary he wants to know from a
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tory whether we should scrap the ban on diesels and petrols by 2030. i mean, do you want to see the government be pushing back some of these net zero targets and some of these things that are actually going to impoverish people, the ripping out of boilers replacing them with boilers and replacing them with heat pumps plan air. >> that mean? i it >> what does that mean? i it it's commendable that they've got a date, but i don't think it's going to work. >> but you're quite juxtaposed then you're a tory, but you're quite juxtaposed to government policy. i mean, you consider policy. i mean, do you consider yourself be on right of yourself to be on the right of the party? yourself to be on the right of the do rty? yourself to be on the right of the do you know? it depends what >> do you know? it depends what you're talking about. sometimes i would slightly to the right i would be slightly to the right . times, apparently i'm . other times, apparently i'm not. i am. i have got my own views. as mayor of london, you have got to have your own views and reflect what londoners want. and matter if those and it doesn't matter if those londoners are tory, labour, liberal, whatever , or those with liberal, whatever, or those with no particular politics at all. you've got to listen to people. >> on that note, i've just got to ask you about this because it's been alleged that you've
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liked tweets that endorse comments made by enoch powell, that also that you've, i think, tweeted in 2020 quotes. come on, donald trump, make sure you win and wipe the smile off this man's face. that's in response to a video of sadiq khan. you've also liked a tweet calling mr khan a traitor rat. and saying that he's our nipple height mayor of london. yeah. are they the right things to be retweeting? >> well, quite frankly, i knock on doors morning, noon and night . that's what i do. i ask people their opinions. i have never, ever had anybody on a doorstep say , oh, but i don't like your say, oh, but i don't like your tweets. people are worried about things like the ulez cost of living and policing is high on everybody's agenda. that's what i'm hearing on the doorsteps. people people don't worry about that. people worry about what's going to affect their lives . and going to affect their lives. and ihave going to affect their lives. and i have to be, with the greatest respect, what put on twitter respect, what i put on twitter on that doesn't affect people's lives. issues do. lives. these big issues do. >> right. let's talk about >> all right. let's talk about perhaps a issue for some perhaps a big issue for some people that part of london,
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people in that part of london, the carnival . been the notting hill carnival. been a of talk about the arrests a lot of talk about the arrests that made, the violence that that are made, the violence that happens the carnival, happens at the carnival, or should be stopped? should it be stopped? >> i've never said it should >> no, i've never said it should be stopped. i do wonder if it if the organisers ought to look at putting it somewhere else. it's a victim of its own success. people love going to it. it's a wonderful celebration , nation of wonderful celebration, nation of culture. but it's got so successful, so many people go to it. it's in roads that cannot cope. should it be moved then rather than stopped? i think the organisers should certainly look at that and see if that's what they could do. >> would you be happy to see jeremy corbyn stand against you for mayor of london? i mean, the polling if he does so, polling suggests if he does so, he the wing vote he splits the left wing vote between him and sadiq khan and you through the middle. you race through the middle. >> , it's him to decide >> well, it's for him to decide what to do. i do know that possibly there will be problems within the jewish community if he does, because of his anti—semitism . and we suggest he anti—semitism. and we suggest he isn't an anti—semite . isn't an anti—semite. >> you think he is okay?
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>> you think he is okay? >> no , i just know what the >> no, i just know what the jewish community might think about that. >> let's talk very quickly as well about american bully dogs that have made their way from america to the uk. quite a lot of attacks in the london area. obviously rishi sunak has come out with this ban. would you like see a cull? because if like to see a cull? because if there dogs still in there are dogs still in existence the ten existence for the next ten years, they're banned years, even if they're banned from here and being bred from coming here and being bred , got these , you've still got these potentially aggressive dogs. yes. danger of attacking yes. in danger of attacking humans. yeah. >> aggressive dogs that can be nine stone. are a problem. i'm glad they're going to be banned. should they be killed at this point? i don't think so. i think they should have muzzles on certain only personally, but it's only a personal thought. i would not want them near my grandchildren if they're nine stone. if they weigh nine stone and they're up against children, clearly there could be a problem. >> i know you're a gb viewer and listener, so i wondered whether you caught patrick christys expose of the fact that labour run council been run ealing council has been housing people in shipping
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containers. he spoke to a legal immigrant. she had come in from the congo. she's in the shipping container with her children. it's infested. it's it's cockroach infested. it's not fit for habitation. she made the point , why am not fit for habitation. she made the point, why am i here? and people have come here illegally, the point, why am i here? and peoine have come here illegally, the point, why am i here? and peoin hotelscome here illegally, the point, why am i here? and peoin hotels asne here illegally, the point, why am i here? and peoin hotels as well. re illegally, are in hotels as well. >> i would say she's got a point. i mean, the bigger the broader issue is the fact that despite that, the government, given sadiq khan £9 billion to build more housing, he has not built enough houses and that's certainly something i will be looking at when i'm mayor in may. >> and a final word on crime. we've now become , according to we've now become, according to some of the newspapers, a nation of shoplifters are you worried about of these kind of mob about some of these kind of mob attacks on shops , on, for attacks on shops, on, for instance, oxford street? what would you do about it? >> well, i stand up for shop owners everywhere. and if shoplifting is it's a crime, has lost control of this . the met lost control of this. the met has we've got to have more bobbies on the beat. we've got to have more frontline policing in show also. >> how about this £200 limit? they won't look at you unless
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you've thieved something for more outrageous ice cream. more than outrageous ice cream. do you then? do you think, then? >> that is outrageous. >> i think that is outrageous. stealing was stealing is stealing. if i was to your pen, that is to take your pen, that is stealing. and i feel very strongly about this. we've got to law and order back in to get law and order back in london. i will absolutely london. and i will absolutely sort this out when i become mayor >> susan hall, lovely to speak to this morning. you .
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dementia can have a devastating impact on any family. hi, sally. how are you ? how are you? >> i'm well. how are you? >> i'm well. how are you? >> thank you very much for having us today. pleasure earlier this week, i caught up with alastair's wife, sally, at the couple's home in hampshire to out how she has been to find out how she has been
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coping news. so sally, coping with the news. so sally, when i spoke to alastair in the studio on sunday, he spoke about how he had got early signs and suspicions that there might be something wrong. he talked about missing cool times. he talked about at one point having trouble with his laces . about at one point having trouble with his laces. did you suspect in the run up to his diagnosis that something was amiss ? amiss? >> yes, did. i the first signs >> yes, i did. i the first signs at home were him not being able to reset at an old fashioned clock. we have in the kitchen. so i would say the clock stopped. can you set it, please? and then he would set it completely different time. random times. and he was forgetting things as he would forgetting things as he would forget of the week. what forget days of the week. what month it was, that sort of thing. and then he would if he had something on the next day, he go to bed stressed he would go to bed stressed and get the middle of the night. >> and how long had that been going for? on >> about a month before we >> only about a month before we went to the doctor, really. >> then presumably this >> but then presumably this stuck thumb stuck out like a sore thumb because associate him because we associate him professionally with being very much brief, in
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much across his brief, being in full command of the facts is that what he's like at home? not really. >> he's he's he's always been forgetful. so at first, if i if i mentioned it to the children, they would say, well, that's dad. you know, he i mean, famously he put his wallet has doneit famously he put his wallet has done it twice actually put his wallet the of the car to wallet on the roof of the car to petrol station, then driven off losing the wallet put his losing the wallet and put his briefcase once hail briefcase down. once to hail a taxi london left , got in taxi in london and left, got in the taxi and drove off and left the taxi and drove off and left the briefcase on the pavement . the briefcase on the pavement. so that's sort of thing he so that's the sort of thing he has done in the past. so things like that weren't a total surprise. when was when surprise. but when it was when it to be like days of it started to be like days of the week, months of the year, seasons well, to get seasons as well, he used to get confused. season were confused. what season we were in. um, that's when it started to ring alarm bells. >> and when you went to the doctor and got the diagnosis. yes. shocked were you ? yes. how shocked were you? because yourself, but because you brace yourself, but you never it's going to you never think it's going to happen you right? you never think it's going to hapl en you right? you never think it's going to hapl wasn't ou right? you never think it's going to hapl wasn't shocked’ you never think it's going to hapl wasn't shocked because . >> i wasn't shocked because. because i'd already guessed that's he had. and the that's what he had. and the doctor, the gp did a sort of a,
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i think, quite a common for test dementia . and i was there in the dementia. and i was there in the room when he did it. and the answers he was giving were, you know, well , a lot of them were know, well, a lot of them were wrong. so i kind of guessed i'd prepared myself for it, but we didn't get the diagnosis for some time afterwards because we had to see various other people . and by the time we got the proper diagnosis, i wasn't at all surprised or shocked. >> but how did it feel to hear it ? it? >> um, very sad. very, very sad. but you know, you just have to get on with it, don't you? >> i mean, the thing about what alan's told us in the studio is this sense to which he wants to convey that if you get a dementia diagnosis, it doesn't suddenly mean your world stops and ifs suddenly mean your world stops and it's game over. life and that it's game over. life continues for us. but how has it changed and how he's been behaving and indeed what impact has it had on your marriage? would you say .
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would you say. um, i don't really think that it's affected him too much yet . him too much yet. >> i mean, he, he, he hasn't dnven >> i mean, he, he, he hasn't driven since november when we first got our suspicions because he had an accident in the car. not a big accident, but enough to cause concern. so i made that decision then that he shouldn't drive accepted that very drive and he accepted that very easily surprised um easily which surprised me. um and that's that's an issue because here, we're not because living here, we're not really it does really isolated. but it does take a while to, you know, you can't walk to a shop. have can't walk to a shop. you have to a car and drive to a to go into a car and drive to a shop and other things that he would normally on his would normally have done on his own . i now have to take him or own. i now have to take him or do it instead of him. so that impacts. but we still have quite a busy social life and we've got wonderful friends who are still involving us their social involving us in their social lives and i suppose i have my own social life as well. i'm still i'm determined to keep
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going i can with going as long as i can with that. there aren't any that. but there aren't any surprises what we're surprises really. what we're having through. i had having to go through. i had prepared for so it's prepared myself for so it's i mean, i don't know, it hasn't affected our marriage that much yet. mean, he said that he >> no. i mean, he said that he was worried for you because you're his wife and lover. you're his wife and his lover. and now . he he's worried that and now. he he's worried that you've become his carer , for you've become his carer, for which i think lots of dementia patients will say about their own partners that that's hard to see them doing stuff them see them doing stuff for them that to do for themselves. >> yes, i mean he, he he does have issues with dressing sometimes and just simple things that to do for him. that i have to do for him. >> and check for but he's >> and check for him. but he's also to how also beginning to learn to how adapt and to how to make things work within his parameters. so you doing sort of work within his parameters. so you best doing sort of work within his parameters. so you best we doing sort of work within his parameters. so you best we can, doing sort of work within his parameters. so you best we can, really. ;ort of work within his parameters. so you best we can, really. and»f the best we can, really. and i think he doesn't want to overburden me. so he try to overburden me. so he does try to do for himself. but. i do do things for himself. but. i do have a habit of double checking
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so i don't go to bed now until he's gone to bed because i then have to go around checking all the windows, all the doors that the windows, all the doors that the animals are safe. yeah, that sort of thing. so that's, that's a bit of problem. a bit of a problem. >> looking forward >> i mean, looking forward because of facing because you're kind of facing the with how disease the unknown with how the disease might itself. what's might manifest itself. what's your worry? your biggest worry? >> suppose i, i really worry >> i suppose i, i really worry about the impact on the children. yeah and although they're, sort spread they're, they're sort of spread over age gap, do over quite the big age gap, i do worry that . worry that. the implications for them and our middle son his girlfriend has somebody very close to her who's got it very badly and the two younger sons have seen what it can do. and i think that that worries them and makes them feel quite frightened for future. but know, for the future. but you know, we're long way away from that we're a long way away from that yet. yeah. >> was really difficult >> was it a really difficult decision for you both? i would imagine, alastair, but also imagine, for alastair, but also for he thought for you when he thought to himself in spring, i'm himself back in the spring, i'm going step back from going to have to step back from gb news.
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>> it was a relief. it was >> so it was a relief. it was a relief because i, i knew that something was wrong. and to go and i, i've never been the wife that would sit there and watch every programme from beginning to end. and the same applied when he was doing regular gb news stuff he loved, loved news stuff which he loved, loved doing. really enjoyed it. but doing. he really enjoyed it. but i just worried i was just worried that something wrong something might go wrong on air because obviously so because obviously it's live so in a it was a relief when he in a way it was a relief when he stopped doing it. i mean, i was sad for him because he so enjoyed it. yeah >> and he's so good at it. >> and he's so good at it. >> but was a relief in a way >> but it was a relief in a way that we got that diagnosis. so he had step . back a that we got that diagnosis. so he had step. back a bit. he had to step. back a bit. >> i mean, when you look back, he's had quite a difficult few years before he came to gb news. he spoke to this about this to me in the studio as well. he'd had stressful period when me in the studio as well. he'd ha
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he left his last job. yeah looking back, do you think that might have played some role in the it a stressful time >> it was a very stressful time for him and for the whole family. very very, very stressful. and think that's stressful. and i think that's that be of yes. that could be part of it. yes. >> mean, had telling me >> i mean, you had telling me earlier that you had sort of paparazzi at the door. the whole family's co—opted it. family's then co—opted into it. it hoo ha at the time. it was a big hoo ha at the time. obviously, things substantially calmed moved into . calmed down once he moved into. the gp role . but perhaps there the gp role. but perhaps there isn't a coincidence there. but we might not never know. yeah. he says that he's been helped by going out and walking the dogs for he says for extended periods. he says he's a few of his he's changed quite a few of his habits, stopped smoke smoking, which may have relief to which may have been a relief to you. drink very you. also, he doesn't drink very much more. would you much any more. would you recommend those sorts of lifestyle changes to other people going through this? definitely i don't drink much. >> i mean, i don't drink much. i hardly ever and i've never smoked. that's always smoked. so that's always something stick with. it something i stick with. and it was cost of cigarettes. was also the cost of cigarettes. yes. mean, he was spending yes. i mean, he was spending £500 on cigarettes .
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£500 a month on cigarettes. >> crazy. >> crazy. >> yes. so, yes , of course. >> yes. so, yes, of course. i would say that was a very good idea. yes, of course. and he has had a lot of help from hampshire health authority with his giving up smoking. they've been brilliant . brilliant. >> well, he said well he >> well, he said as well that he thought that nhs had been thought that the nhs had been brilliant what brilliant in handling what has happened, would you agree with that? absolutely. mean, you're that? absolutely. i mean, you're the of the the one taking into all of the appointments the rest of appointments and all the rest of it, how has that experience it, but how has that experience from practical level been? from a practical level been? they amazing the they have been amazing from the from saw our gp who from the day we saw our gp who would never before. would never even met before. >> mean, it was just, you >> i mean, it was just, you know, phoning for an know, phoning up for an appointment, whoever first appointment, whoever was first available . brilliant available and he was. brilliant and set the ball rolling and i've been surprised up to this point how much help we've had. and that sounds cynical. i don't mean it to be, but you know you hear such stories about hear such awful stories about the we've had experts the nhs and we've had experts from you know, respiratory experts, stroke, from you know, respiratory expe a s, stroke, from you know, respiratory expea psychiatrist stroke, from you know, respiratory expea psychiatrist for stroke, from you know, respiratory expea psychiatrist for mental um, a psychiatrist for mental health and the elderly. we've had an occupational therapist, we've mental health nurse. we've had a mental health nurse. fantastic. people fantastic. and people keep saying who've through saying to me who've been through this experience is
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this experience themselves is that diagnosed, the that once you're diagnosed, the help i suppose . help stops it. and i suppose. in a weird way, i'm waiting for that to happen. i don't want it to happen, but i'm waiting for that, you know, no help, you know, you're on your own sort of mentality. >> although i suppose the focus is always on the patient i'd is always on the patient and i'd be intrigued to you, as the be intrigued to ask you, as the carer, i mean, does carer carer, i mean, does the carer get enough attention? there are hundreds and thousands of people looking people, looking after people, their elderly their elderly relatives, their husbands, their wives, their children who have got different diseases are diseases and disabilities. are they a forgotten left behind? >> guess at the moment i'm not >> i guess at the moment i'm not really a position to say from really in a position to say from . my own experience because we haven't got to that point really. you know, we don't need carers yet , thank goodness. but carers yet, thank goodness. but l, carers yet, thank goodness. but i, you know, i can't really answer that from my own experience, only from what i've heard. >> and since alastair came on,
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my show. what's the feedback been like? have you received amazing day of the amazing on the day of the interview, the sunday, and he came home and he was he was exhausted, did because it took a lot out of him. >> i think his phone didn't stop going pinging all these messages. it was amazing. absolutely don't messages. it was amazing. ahatertely don't messages. it was amazing. ahatertely a don't messages. it was amazing. ahatertely a mobile don't messages. it was amazing. ahatertely a mobile phone. n't i hate using a mobile phone. i don't do social media, but i've had lot of messages well. had a lot of messages as well. and we've opened up a lot and we've just opened up a lot of letters and cards. this morning from people and flowers. so it's been tremendous . yeah. so it's been tremendous. yeah. does that help? >> i mean, i suppose the kindness of strangers. yes well, a lot of people, you know , but a lot of people, you know, but also i'd assume some fans of his that just want to we haven't had any fan mail because i guess they they don't have his address, although i've had lots of my twitter feed as has alastair. on the alastair. i think on the instagram you know, so instagram page, you know, so many people just fondly remembering illustrious remembering his very illustrious career of career and kind of sort of celebrating the bravery of speaking out because think speaking out because i think it is still something that people are candid and open
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about. >> i think i think people are quite shocked by that, that he had the nerve to do it, i think. but that's that's him. you know, he's his whole career he's he spent his whole career in really. and in the public eye, really. and that that's the way he is. that's how does things. that's how he does things. >> one hand, alice spinning a >> on one hand, alice spinning a positive message that this doesn't mean it's positive message that this doe end. mean it's positive message that this doe end. he's mean it's positive message that this doe end. he's stillaan it's positive message that this doe end. he's still very it's positive message that this doe end. he's still very lucid.; the end. he's still very lucid. yes he's got some motor issues , yes he's got some motor issues, but, you know, he's being very positive. but from your perspective, you're alongside him and i'm wondering how you feel about the future. >> i obviously realise it's going to get worse. i it was the psychiatrist told us that dementia tends to be like wide steps. so there you're at a certain condition for quite a long time and then there's a decrease and you stay on that for the next. however long period. so i know it's going to be a gradual process and i know that it be a gradual process and i know thatitis be a gradual process and i know that it is going to get worse.
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but you just have to, i guess, take each day as it comes, make the most of what's going on at the most of what's going on at the time, and try and live life as normally as possible and just see what happens in a few years time. who knows ? and there are time. who knows? and there are moments where i want to kill him , but that's the way it is also. >> that's marriage . >> that's marriage. >> that's marriage. >> yes , in a way. >> yes, in a way. >> and it comes with its different challenges to kill me most of the time as well. >> i'm sure he doesn't. >> i'm sure he doesn't. >> i'm sure he doesn't. >> i mean, at least we've got space here to go out. and, you know, when it all gets too much, it's a bit like lockdown. >> yes. it's a bit like lockdown. >> is s. it's a bit like lockdown. >> is that how you feel you're living the moment? sort of. living at the moment? sort of. well strategies i use well the strategies that i use dunng well the strategies that i use during lockdown to survive, we all had our little ways of all had our own little ways of doing things. >> i reuse here. now in this situation can give me some example routine on doing the same things at the same time. >> you know, staying close to home. >> yes, i had to. i had to get
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up early during lockdown to do the animals. and i still get up early do the animals. and early to do the animals. and that me routine which is that gave me a routine which is important me. and just to important to me. and just to find things to do here home based, because i do go out and i do leave him behind, but i'm not for a long, long periods at a time. and i think a lockdown sort of taught us how to behave. yeah for now, really . yeah for now, really. the temperature's rising . the temperature's rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. hope you are able to enjoy the weekend. although the rather damp end for many of us is setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during the new working week,
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even into the end sunday, even into the end of sunday, some thunderstorms some heavy thunderstorms possible across parts of southeast . torrential southeast england. torrential downpours. take downpours. so you just take care if there if you are travelling there overnight. elsewhere, the rain will turning more persistent will be turning more persistent and heavy as well for western scotland. of north—west scotland. parts of north—west england, underneath all the cloud many it cloud around. for many of us, it will be rather warm. temperatures holding up around 12 17 c. so very mild start 12 to 17 c. so very mild start to monday morning and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of the thunderstorms as well, off out into well, clearing them off out into the sea. rain will be most the north sea. rain will be most persistent parts of north persistent for parts of north east but that, east scotland. but behind that, there brighter there will be some brighter intervals developing. with intervals developing. still with a rather sharp a scattering of rather sharp showers to watch out for, though temperatures between 14 temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c as we head into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its heels and wanting to move its way in. so blustery winds developing for good of developing for a good chunk of wales, england northern wales, england and northern ireland. gales in ireland. coastal gales in places. bringing places. and it will be bringing this rain initially this band of rain initially across northern ireland at dawn on increasingly on tuesday. but increasingly spreading eastwards .
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spreading its way eastwards. generally northwest england, wales the brunt of the wales seeing the brunt of the rainfall far south and far north, perhaps seeing some drier intervals in places, but still catching rainfall catching some of that rainfall further showers as we head throughout wednesday, thursday and well . by the and friday as well. by the temperatures rising , a boxt temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .
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