i'll be asking my mark starmer.7 i'll be asking my mark meets guest, the author of an explosive, warts and all documentary biography of the man who could well be our next prime minister and it might take a ten. theresa may says she's woke and proud and well, as far as i'm concerned, she was the worst prime minister in 100 years. i'll be dealing with theresa may in no uncertain terms. you won't want to miss it. two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. russell brand next. but first, the news with ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks, mark, and good evening. our top stories tonight , the met police is set to speak to channel 4 and the sunday times after claims of rape and sexual assault were made against the comedian russell brand. now warning for those of you watching on television, the following contains following footage contains flashing . as the force

flashing images. as the force says it's aware of media reports of a series of allegations and urges anyone who believes that they've been the victim of sexual assault to get in touch. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand, launched their own urgent reviews. russell brand denies any criminality and insists that all of his relationships have been consent . fuel claims that the consent. fuel claims that the labour party wants the uk to join the eu's migrant quota scheme are complete garbage. sir keir starmer says that's despite indicating that he'd be open to working with brussels to manage channel crossings, which may involve taking in some asylum seekers. sir keir says it would be part of a deal to return channel migrants. immigration minister robert jenrick says labour's approach would result in 100,000 more illegal migrants in 100,000 more illegal migrants in britain every year. liz truss will claim that rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion

more than she would have done . more than she would have done. speaking at the institute for government , the former prime government, the former prime minister will defend her time in charge. nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation. according to the telegraph, ms truss will claim that under her plans , £18.4 that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved this year and next. we wales has become the first country in the uk to introduce a 20 mile an hour speed limit for all residential roads. hour speed limit for all residential roads . the welsh residential roads. the welsh government says cutting the limit from 30 will protect lives and save the welsh nhs £92 million a year. the welsh tories say the decision will slow down emergency services and negatively impact people's livelihoods . and the met office livelihoods. and the met office says more than a month's rain could have fallen by the end of today. a yellow warning is in place across south west england and south wales . meanwhile, an and south wales. meanwhile, an amber weather warning for thunderstorms was in place across parts of devon and

somerset . that's now ended, somerset. that's now ended, although severe flash flooding was reported in the devon towns of dawlish and kenton and flights have been cancelled at exeter airport this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to . mark nice to have ray back to. mark nice to have ray addison with us. >> he returns in an hour's time. welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, i'll be dealing with the russell brand story head on. you'll be heanng brand story head on. you'll be hearing my first personal thoughts on those bombshell allegations in the big story. will brands alleged victims ever get justice? and will brand have a chance to clear his name? i'll be asking barrister and former tv starjerry be asking barrister and former tv star jerry hayes. be asking barrister and former tv starjerry hayes. plus, we'll tv star jerry hayes. plus, we'll be joined by a top tv producer and director who has worked with some of the biggest names in the world comedy and

world of comedy and entertainment, who is the real keir starmer? i'll be asking . keir starmer? i'll be asking. tonight's mark meets guest, the author of an explosive warts and all biography of the man. the man who could well be our next prime minister. in my take at ten. looking forward to this. theresa may says she's woke and she says she's proud of it. as far as i'm concerned, was far as i'm concerned, she was the prime minister in 100 the worst prime minister in 100 years. be dealing with years. i'll be dealing with theresa may in no uncertain terms at 10:00. you won't want to miss it if politicians don't start listening to voters in regards to illegal immigration. net zero crime and wokery will there be an uprising even bigger than brexit? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker an widdecombe, on whether british democracy is in crisis. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits who have mint told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight, emma webb , michael tonight, emma webb, michael crick and neil hamilton . crick and neil hamilton. tonight, i'll be asking the punst tonight, i'll be asking the pundits with a million people expected to have turned to

private health care by the end of the year, have brits given up on the nhs? our woke museums rewriting history and as eco boffins say, we should only buy three items of clothing a year. what three would you pick ? plus, what three would you pick? plus, the most important part of the show your emails, they come straight to my laptop market. vaiews@gbnews.com. and this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring . not on my watch. do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. a big two hours to come. we start with my big opinion . every thing is a big opinion. every thing is a point of division. these days, isn't it? brexit veganism, trans rights , race. the interpretation rights, race. the interpretation of history. harry and meghan versus the royal family. it goes on. even the allegations surrounding phillip schofield and the bbc's huw edwards became yet another tribal war. why would that be? why is this

happening ? well, glued to our happening? well, glued to our smartphones and laptops for an unhealthy number of hours in the day, the ingenious algorithms dreamt up in silicon valley funnel us into one identity group or another where they hack our psychology and manipulate us into taking sides . now, in the into taking sides. now, in the good old days, we all thought different things. we agreed or we disagreed, and that was the end of it. now, if we disagree, your opponent isn't just wrong. they're a bad person. it's unhealthy , it's unhealthy, it's counterproductive, and it threatens to wreck society. it's got to stop. we've got to do something about what the internet and social media in particular is doing to us as a species . as a case in point, is species. as a case in point, is the devastating and horrific set of allegations against the actor and comedian russell brand , and comedian russell brand, allegations that could barely be more egregious rape, sexual assault and mental abuse . in assault and mental abuse. in a previous era. these allegations

would be investigated by the authorities and you would hope that justice would prevail . that justice would prevail. either way . however, in the last either way. however, in the last few years , things have been few years, things have been changing . we've had trial by changing. we've had trial by media with the likes of paul gambaccini and cliff richard accuse and judged and effectively hung , drawn and effectively hung, drawn and quartered by the media before being proved innocent . but with being proved innocent. but with the damage done particularly in the damage done particularly in the case of cliff richard, who was compensated , budgeted to the was compensated, budgeted to the tune of £2 million by the for bbc literally flying helicopters over his house following unfounded and since disproven allegations us. but now it's not even tv channels, newspapers or radio networks that are rushing to judgement. we're doing it instantly via our own smartphones . now i don't have smartphones. now i don't have a clue what's going on with this russell brand story and neither do most of us. but it hasn't stopped scores of people on social media weighing in on

either side with brand supporters calling him the victim of an establishment media deep state stitch up and others celebrating what they perceive to be this famously womanising narcissist not receiving his just deserts . it strikes me narcissist not receiving his just deserts. it strikes me as deeply wrong to take either view . these are human beings we're talking about russell brand himself, who denies the allegations . jones and his allegations. jones and his alleged victims , whose harrowing alleged victims, whose harrowing stories were told in a compelling, well—researched and fastidiously executed channel a documentary not to mention the bold journalism of the times and the sunday times. i agree with my friend and excellent colleague, emily carver , who colleague, emily carver, who struck the middle ground just right in what is emerging as yet another ridiculous culture war here is what emily carver had to say on twitter . allegations of say on twitter. allegations of sexual abuse should be taken very seriously. end of it is often the media who bring these things to light. and i'm

grateful that they do so here's what i've got to say . calm down, what i've got to say. calm down, everyone , and stop taking sides everyone, and stop taking sides . let's have a proper police investigation and due process. let the alleged victims be heard in relation to those devastating allegations and let brand himself be innocent until proven guilty as enshrined in habeas corpus of 1166. yes, that law module at uni wasn't a complete waste of time. the only goal here is not point scoring on twitter or instagram, but the truth and justice for. all are people wrong to rush to judgement on social media? mark at gbnews.com. how can these alleged crimes be yet another chapter in the ridiculous

culture wars? let me know your thoughts . let's get the views of thoughts. let's get the views of my top pundits , the uk director my top pundits, the uk director of the common sense society, emma webb , journalist and emma webb, journalist and broadcaster michael crick, and the leader of ukip, former conservative mp neil hamilton . conservative mp neil hamilton. emma, let me start with you. your reaction to how the country and the world of social media have reacted to this story? >> i agree with what you said. i think mary harrington also wrote a great reaction to this in unherd today, trying to basically call for people to strike that balance because this is of justice. if as is an issue of justice. if as these serious allegations have been made, you know, this should been made, you know, this should be done through the law , i find be done through the law, i find it troubling that people are describing him as a sex offender when there have been no convictions. so i think it's important that justice is done when serious allegations are made. but i think, as we've seen in many other cases, there's this sort of rush to mob justice. and just because allegations have been made, that

doesn't that the truth doesn't mean that the truth of those yet been established. >> yes, michael, you'll know about trial by media now. it's trial by smartphone, isn't it? >> well, the extraordinary thing is , mark, come here every is, mark, i come on here every few weeks and there am few weeks and there i am adopting the centrist position against your extreme views. and i now find you've joined me and emma has as well. >> i've gone woke. >> i've gone woke. >> yes, it's official . >> yes, it's official. >> yes, it's official. >> well, we'll on to that >> well, we'll come on to that later. but you're absolutely later. but but you're absolutely right. and indeed, gb right. i mean, and indeed, gb news contributes to this well news contributes to this as well , afraid i'm sure we , i'm afraid to say. i'm sure we do. and the, you know, do. i'm sure. and the, you know, russell brand , we don't know the russell brand, we don't know the witnesses against him are largely anonymous . i they largely anonymous. i they haven't gone to the police . and haven't gone to the police. and i suspect that if this goes to court, well, i don't think it will go to court because these people haven't gone to the police up to now . it's possible, police up to now. it's possible, i suppose, other women will i suppose, that other women will come . but i think come forward. but i think probably the evidence won't be enough to convict him in terms of beyond reasonable doubt. and yet the evidence will be too

balanced for him to win a libel action and so it probably won't go to court and yet his reputation will probably never recover in just the same way that philip schofield and huw edwards and indeed 1 or 2 colleagues around here, there reputations may not recover from allegations like this. now, as for this allegation of trial by media, the media does a good job at investigating stories that the authorities have often failed to investigate. and now it's a pejorative term trial by media. a lot of the journalists on our television is very good journalism , and it's a lot journalism, and it's a lot better journalism than it was when i started 45 years ago. when i started out 45 years ago. as per carver's tweet in as per emily carver's tweet in which she has said that it's lucky that media outlets are exposing potential crimes, especially by individuals who may be powerful , may be especially by individuals who may be powerful, may be abusing that power. >> neil hamilton, your reaction to from these allegations? >> well, i think i'm probably the only person here this evening who actually faced evening who has actually faced allegations of rape which were

made to the police in my case, but were after a month of battle with them from one part of the media to another. >> they they dropped the entire case. so i have some sympathy with not just russell brand, but anybody who is faced with allegations of this kind. if those allegations are denied. but the rush to judgement is very corrosive and coruscating isn't it? of course, i've spent a lifetime with people rushing to judgement about me , and to judgement about me, and that's just something you have to put up with. but this kind of case is not the same as political judgements . of course political judgements. of course these are criminal allegations . these are criminal allegations. if they're followed through and he could face a long period in prison if he were to be convicted . so and given the convicted. so and given the lottery, which is our justice system laughably called justice system, then , you know, you system, then, you know, you never know what the outcome might be. but you might find it improbable that anybody would

welcome being poured by a scrofulous scarecrow like russell brand. but there's no accounting for taste , is there? accounting for taste, is there? >> well, you win tonight's dictionary corner for scrofulous and stop the press folks . and stop the press folks. >> mark dolan agrees with michael crick and vice versa. don't get used to it . michael crick and vice versa. don't get used to it. coming up next in the big story, will russell brand's alleged victims ever justice? and will brand ever get justice? and will brand have a chance to clear his name? both questions raised now by michael i'll be asking michael there. i'll be asking barrister and former star barrister and former tv star jerry hayes . plus, we'll jerry hayes. plus, we'll be joined top tv producer and joined by a top tv producer and director worked with director who has worked with some of the biggest names in the world and world of comedy and entertainment that's

radio. well, a big reaction to my big opinion . opinion. >> i'm not happy with the fallout from the allegations around russell brand on either side. people are trying to score points, whether they're supporting brand or rather the opposite. the bottom line is we don't take sides. we need the

law to have due process. how about this from jim who says, mark, we find social media totally disturbing and have stopped using all of it. on balance, we feel that the world will be a better place without social media, particularly children . i would ban all social children. i would ban all social media, particularly tiktok and instagram. of course, when i was talking the big opinion, talking about the big opinion, i did point out that so much of this tribalism even around a story russell brand, is story like russell brand, is swept up and talked up by social media. this from richard taking a view on anything based on social media content is depressingly numb , says richard. depressingly numb, says richard. just watch gb news. it's all you need. just watch gb news. it's all you need . well said, richard. annie need. well said, richard. annie says , i deplore trial by media says, i deplore trial by media and if somebody goes to the media before the police, any legal action should be null and void . and last but not least, void. and last but not least, kim says , great to see you at kim says, great to see you at 9 p-m, kim says, great to see you at 9 pm, very interesting tonight with your take on the news in your fabulous fashion. jim, thank you for that . better go to thank you for that. better go to specsavers. keep those emails coming, marc, at gbnews.com.

it's time now for the big story . and let's get more on the fallout from the shocking allegations surrounding comedian and brand , the bbc and actor russell brand, the bbc channel 4 and a production firm have said they're investigating accusations of rape and sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013, which he denies. to reflect further , i'm delighted to further, i'm delighted to welcome barrister and former tv star jerry hayes and tv producer and director craig duncan , who's and director craig duncan, who's worked with some of the biggest names in the world of comedy and entertainment and is the star of his own popular tv channel on youtube, flooded and flooded for anyone that wants to check him out now. craig, welcome to mark dolan tonight. you know, the entertainment industry inside out. what's your reaction to this bombshell story . this bombshell story. >> i didn't want to watch the documentary. >> i was trying to avoid it because i don't have a television licence. i had to go to my mother's house to watch it

when you asked me to do it. and i got to say , obviously , i got to say, obviously, anything about and sexual assault is appalling and shocking and but this is a documentary . i was watching it documentary. i was watching it as a documentary and i found it was using and employing some very interesting techniques to certainly manipulate how we felt about what we were hearing essentially, and seeing . so it essentially, and seeing. so it was very interesting to watch , actually. >> well, i'm glad that you mentioned that because this is what you do for a living. you produce and direct tv. some of the some of the most watched tv out there, top entertainment shows, all the rest of it, a league um, the league of their own. um, the film contains some very compelling and distressing testimonies, but there are extra production techniques, aren't there, such as music, for example . why would music be example. why would music be deployed in a documentary of this type? >> well, it is interesting, isn't it? because if you would think that just being told about

a sexual assault , just being a sexual assault, just being told about it would be enough. but it has to have music added to it in order to make it more more than that, like , you know, more than that, like, you know, like a testimony isn't strong enough. i don't know if, if any future court cases on this subject matter, whether lawyers would be allowed to play music as they hear in the testimony from people in the, you know, up up in the dark. but they did use music on this. up in the dark. but they did use music on this . and i thought it music on this. and i thought it was kind of manipulative in a way . but that's kind of what we way. but that's kind of what we do. they we try and make the impact of the story we're trying to tell as impactful as possible. and i think it's shocking that we do it. i don't think we should do it. and that's why i probably will never work in television again , work in television again, because i'm speaking out about it, because i think that there needs to be a lot of work done

by sort of third party production company as in terms of how they are going about keeping the audiences engaged and telling their stories. >> well, yes, because i think all three of us, jerry, can agree that it's important that these testimonies are heard . but these testimonies are heard. but did you find the way that the documentary was made a little manipulative ? manipulative? >> well, i didn't see the documentary . documentary. >> i've only read the papers and don't forget, this is really a sunday times story. the sunday times would be working on this for about two years. and i knew this was coming up, um, a little while back . sunday times. they while back. sunday times. they are a decent newspaper. they've got sensible journalists. everything was properly sourced. it's been lawyered . and i think it's been lawyered. and i think what i agree totally with you, mark, you said at the beginning of the programme, let justice be done. that's right . of the programme, let justice be done. that's right. i of the programme, let justice be done. that's right . i hope done. that's right. i hope channel 4 and the sunday times have given all the documents and some of the stuff that they couldn't play to the police.

this is a police investigation. it has to be a police investigation now. and as you rightly said, there must be due process. and there's one test and prosecute a lot of these cases, defend them as well. and thatis cases, defend them as well. and that is there a realistic prospect of conviction that is the test. then there's the fallout from the media, the pros and against. we can't disinvent social media in the same way. and against. we can't disinvent social media in the same way . we social media in the same way. we can't disinvent the atomic bomb . both are rather unpleasant and can have some catastrophic consequences. however people should realise if they are writing things in the media which could be actionable or could derail a trial, then they'll be in contempt of court. but they can't be in contempt of court now because there's no legal proceedings. but they've got to be really, really careful. the last thing is it's really weird. well, everything is weird when it comes to social media, but a lot of people think there's a conspiracy theory that

they're all out to get russell grant really, really . i just grant really, really. i just don't get that at all. and i should just say russell grant yes. >> let's not implicate russell grant, who is a famous astrologer , author and an astrologer, author and an absolute and a good friend and a good friend. >> so i'm sorry , russell. >> so i'm sorry, russell. >> so i'm sorry, russell. >> it's an absolute, absolute angel >> it's an absolute, absolute angel. there you go. you got us in legal water russell in legal hot water with russell grant and his people. craig? craig setting russell brand aside, is there an issue in the world of comedy entertainment in relation to the behaviour of male stars? >> well, i've definitely i made a video some time ago about the time i worked with james corden , and it kind of went viral a little bit. i was getting approached by journalists a lot . i had a bad experience directing people who directing him and the people who employed me to direct him asked me, how are you at working with really difficult presenters ? and really difficult presenters? and i said, i'm fine , you know, i said, i'm fine, you know, because they're all difficult.

there is a problem in the industry and it's not just it's not so much that presenters are difficult, it's that they're given permission to be difficult . the there was a time when the producer was boss and the producer was boss and the producer could call the shots. but now it seems to be everyone's afraid of upsetting the presenter because it's the commissioners who are in charge and they have no experience of what it's like to be in the office experience or in the studio or or on location when these presenters are misbehaving . and if you raise any grievances about them, they'll it will probably just get brushed aside. and my experience is that that's what happens . you is that that's what happens. you know, if you start being a problem for that presenter as a as a freelance director , i'm as a freelance director, i'm mainly freelance and you just got rid of pretty much. >> well, i'd like to direct my viewers and listeners to your excellent youtube channel. flooded and check out that james corden video. it's most illuminating . revenge is a dish

illuminating. revenge is a dish best served cold. craig listen, on more serious matters, i know you won't name names, but do you think that there could be other figures in the world of comedy and entertainment who could be next? >> um , yes. >> um, yes. >> um, yes. >> well , well, yes, i >> um, yes. >> well, well, yes, i think i think obviously , yes. think obviously, yes. >> jerry's absolutely correct. definitely there must be i don't know if you're indirectly asking me whether i've had any experience of it. i can't actually tell you that i was assaulted. um on the very first show i ever worked for at the bbc. um, at the wrap party for a show. um and my boss was in that documentary, um , so i have documentary, um, so i have actually spoken about this in one of my videos, but i'm maybe jerry could advise me from a lawyer's point of view whether i should speak about it now . should speak about it now. >> my advice don't say a word . >> my advice don't say a word. >> my advice don't say a word. >> i'd listen. hire jerry. he's worth every penny. jerry well,

what. what do you think are the chances that the alleged victims will get justice? and what are the chances that russell brand will be able to clear his name or will we have stalemate on this one? do you think the most depressing thing we all see in these sort of cases , even if these sort of cases, even if russell grant russell, why do i say this? >> russell brand ? >> russell brand? >> russell brand? >> are you a pisces or a virgo? >> are you a pisces or a virgo? >> rachel ayers i'm an aries. all their troublemakers . all their troublemakers. >> i don't i don't like aries . >> i don't i don't like aries. >> i don't i don't like aries. >> i don't i don't like aries. >> i haven't seen them document neven >> i haven't seen them document never, never . but the fact is never, never. but the fact is what ever never, never. but the fact is whatever happens and this is the sad thing um, he will be cancelled now these allegations are serious because they're criminal. >> but huw edwards who made who did really nothing wrong, rather stupid . he did really nothing wrong, rather stupid. he did did really nothing wrong, rather stupid . he did nothing actually stupid. he did nothing actually legally wrong. he looks like he's cancelled his phillip schofield. what do you think of him? he did nothing illegal and

he's being cancelled. and any actor who's had an accusation made against them, even if it's an absolutely groundless , they an absolutely groundless, they are cancelled. and that's what we should really be worried about. we should really be worried about . it is scary. and i've about. it is scary. and i've always had a thing. okay i'm sorry. can i just do it? >> yeah, of course i do. >> very, very quickly. it's slightly different. i've always been campaigning for anonymity . been campaigning for anonymity. anonymity for those accused of sexual offences in the same way as the people who complain about it until they've either been convicted or until they've pleaded guilty. because it's not fair and it's wrong . fair and it's wrong. >> craig i think it's fundamentally important that the alleged victims have justice, that we have due process, that the police look into this the most devastating accusation and allegations just jumping forward, let's say three years, if this goes away for russell brand, let's say in one way or

another, is there a way back for russell brand at this point, even with a positive outcome ? even with a positive outcome? >> i'm i'm tempted to say i'd like to think so. but if it all depends on the outcome of what happens, you know, everyone's opinion is going to we're going to know what's going to happen . to know what's going to happen. you know, we're going to find out this all about. we out what this is. all about. we don't the people are don't know who the people are who the accusations . who have made the accusations. we haven't heard only we haven't heard we've only heard the story. so far, heard half of the story. so far, which is one of my criticisms of the documentary . and i think we the documentary. and i think we just have to wait and see. but it's very difficult, i think, for presenters to recover from something like this. >> my thanks to barrister and former tv star jerry hayes and television producer and director craig duncan, whose videos on all the big media stories of the day can be found on youtube. >> just search for his channel flooded or flooded . okay, lots flooded or flooded. okay, lots more to come , folks. but first, more to come, folks. but first, the weather . the weather. >> that warm feeling inside from

boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening . >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . hope provided by the met office. hope you are able to enjoy the weekend . although the rather weekend. although the rather damp end for many of us is setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during week. during the new working week. even of sunday, even into the end of sunday, some heavy thunderstorms possible across parts of southeast torrential southeast england. torrential downpours. so you just take care if travelling if you are travelling there overnight. rain overnight. elsewhere, the rain will persistent will be turning more persistent and heavy as for western and heavy as well for western scotland. north—west scotland. parts of north—west england , underneath england, underneath all the cloud of us, it cloud around for many of us, it will warm. will be rather warm. temperatures up around temperatures holding up around 12 to 17 c. so very mild start to monday morning and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of the thunderstorms as well, clearing them off out into the be most the north sea. rain will be most persistent of persistent for parts of north—east but behind north—east scotland. but behind that will be some that, there will be some brighter intervals developing still scattering of still with a scattering of rather sharp showers watch

rather sharp showers to watch out temperatures out for, though temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c as we head into the middle parts of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its way in. so blustery winds developing a blustery winds developing for a good wales , england and good chunk of wales, england and northern coastal gales northern ireland. coastal gales in places. it will be in places. and it will be bringing band of rain bringing this band of rain initially northern initially across northern ireland on tuesday, but ireland at dawn on tuesday, but increasingly its way increasingly spreading its way eastwards. northwest eastwards. generally northwest england, wales seeing the brunt of the rainfall far south and far perhaps seeing some far north, perhaps seeing some dner far north, perhaps seeing some drier intervals in places. but still catching some of that rainfall . further showers as we rainfall. further showers as we head throughout wednesday , head throughout wednesday, thursday . by thursday and friday as well. by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> coming up with tonight's top pundits. with a million people expected to have turned to private health care by the end of the year, have brits given up on nhs ? also, our woke on the nhs? also, our woke museums rewriting history. and as i as eco boffins say that we

should only buy three items of clothing a year, what three items would you pick? see you .

of london. you have got to have your own views and reflect what londoners want . londoners want. >> i'll get to your emails shortly, but reacting to the big stories of the day, tonight's top pundits, the uk director of the common sense society, and we need some of that . emma webb, need some of that. emma webb, journalist and broadcaster . journalist and broadcaster. let's be honest. let's have it right. tv news legend michael crick and an icon of politics, the leader of ukip and former conservative mp. no one's perfect. neil hamilton . almost perfect. neil hamilton. almost a million patients are expected to turn to private health care by the end of the year, as waiting lists hit record highs. this according to new research nhs waiting lists rose to a record 7.6 8,000,000in july 2023, an increase of 105,000 compared to the previous month . so it begs

the previous month. so it begs the previous month. so it begs the question with brits using private healthcare , have they private healthcare, have they given up on the nhs ? michael a given up on the nhs? michael a worrying story and an issue for the moral authority of the nhs. >> yeah, i think so . the moral authority of the nhs. >> yeah, i think so. i the moral authority of the nhs. >> yeah, i think so . i mean, >> yeah, i think so. i mean, i think the nhs is appreciably worse than it was pre covid. i mean if i just take our own surgery, it's so, so hard to get an appointment to see a doctor or even to see them online these days. and i think the same picture is reflected across the country, the waiting list and so on.and country, the waiting list and so on. and inevitably those people who are many of those people who are better off going are better off are going to go to medicine, end up to private medicine, end up seeing, in some cases, the same consultants they have seen consultants they might have seen in the nhs and i think once more and more people start using private medicine, then that contributes to the further to the decline because people in powerful positions , people with powerful positions, people with powerful positions, people with power and wealth, they don't use the nhs, so they don't care about it. so less gets done in

sort of in the same way the education system has declined over the years. i think because so use private so many people use private education and state in education and state schools in middle are quite middle class areas are quite often standard because often of a high standard because often of a high standard because of parents. of the pushy parents. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> so emma webb, a >> so emma webb, it is a concern. you wonder whether the nhs becoming like the bbc, nhs risks becoming like the bbc, a service we've all got to pay for, but which not everyone for, but one which not everyone uses uses. >> e one of the people >> well, i'm one of the people who turned to private who has turned to private because i've seen the that because i've seen the way that things and think things are going and i think that many people that there will be many people who a personal who are making a personal decision look this who are making a personal deci they look this who are making a personal deci they think, look this who are making a personal deci they think, well,)k this who are making a personal deci they think, well, if this who are making a personal deci they think, well, if i this who are making a personal deci they think, well, if i or1is who are making a personal deci they think, well, if i or my and they think, well, if i or my family have medical issue, an family have a medical issue, an and they need some kind of health care, the nhs is not going to be able to provide you with that . and then obviously with that. and then obviously the issue is that if so many people do flock to private health care , you then end up health care, you then end up with this two tier system where those who can't afford to flee the nhs are left in these long waiting lists of millions of people unable to get health care with their health either declining and potential in the long run. let's be honest, this

is going to kill people. so i think the situation is obviously unsustainable , winnable, but unsustainable, winnable, but there isn't really any political will to take the kind of action thatis will to take the kind of action that is necessary to solve it. >> and of course, this is not neil the exclusive neil hamilton, the exclusive domain of the wealthy who are going private . i've got viewers domain of the wealthy who are goinlisteners . i've got viewers domain of the wealthy who are goinlisteners who; got viewers domain of the wealthy who are goinlisteners who aret viewers domain of the wealthy who are goinlisteners who are borrowing and listeners who are borrowing money, it on a credit money, putting it on a credit card or using savings to get that new knee or to get their back looked at. >> yeah, for millions of people, we haven't got a national health service. we've national service. we've got a national health service simply because it's there. but you can't use it for one reason or another . i've for one reason or another. i've had private health insurance for 20 years, i suppose it's surprisingly cheap. >> you don't need to. your body is a temple. well you've been worshipping that . worshipping that. >> i've had very, very bad value. i haven't been ill enough. >> but on the other hand, christine has had far more than her share. well, yes , that's all her share. well, yes, that's all the talk with christine. >> the difference is she has to live with me, whereas i have to live with me, whereas i have to live with me, whereas i have to live with her. >> no, think i think

>> but but no, i think i think you're in trouble here. >> husband's place is in the wrong, michael. you know that . wrong, michael. you know that. that's for tonight . but maybe that's for tonight. but maybe this one. we've been fooling ourselves for years that this tax payer funded universal health care model is the best one. >> but it isn't because you simply cannot provide for the needs, particularly the growing complexity of medical needs and the ageing population out of a taxpayer funded system . and taxpayer funded system. and we're almost unique in the world. in this model, the nhs is said to be the envy of the world, but nobody else has copied it. but isn't it isn't it smart to have one buyer of services , buyer services, one buyer of medication, one central employer that doesn't have the profit motive? >> surely the nhs makes sense as a business model because monopoly , generally speaking, is monopoly, generally speaking, is held to be a bad thing because removing the incentives provided by competition makes for inefficiency , not efficiency. inefficiency, not efficiency. >> so you know, most of europe,

including the irish republic, are fund services, are funded by some kind of co—partnership system, a mix of taxpayer funding, charities as personal finance and so on. and this is the way forward . there are lots the way forward. there are lots of conditions which can easily be insured against orthopaedic things which so many knees and hips will be done in any one yeah hips will be done in any one year. that's something you can insure against quite cheaply and if you over a lifetime if you do it over a lifetime when you're young, of course your few. when your needs are very few. when your needs are very few. when you get older, they're greater . you get older, they're greater. so if you get used to saving for this, you'll find at the end of the day you get a better service, but you'll be in control of the great thing about the health service the national health service is a massive bureaucracy, a huge monolith number people monolith. the number of people who are nhs bureaucrats is vastly increased in the last five years and health care outcomes are worse . outcomes are worse. >> well, i've got to say, for me, free at the point of need is a red line . but how do we get a red line. but how do we get there certainly up for

there is certainly up for debate. on, museums debate. now, moving on, museums are buildings in which objects of historical scientific , of historical scientific, artistic or cultural interest are stored and exhibited. we know that. but what we started to see in recent years are multiple institutions displaying modern artists reinterpretations of history. so it begs the question are woke museums rewriting history? what do we think about this, folks? it also happens , doesn't it? not just in happens, doesn't it? not just in terms of history. happens, doesn't it? not just in terms of history . and for terms of history. and for example, the british museum or national trust venues , emma. but national trust venues, emma. but you can go to the science museum and get a lecture about slavery whilst looking at the first steam engine. >> this is, this is across >> well, this is, this is across the board, even in universities as it's not that long as well. and it's not that long ago, not to give away my age, but in the grand scheme of things not that long ago that i was an undergraduate and even then was sort of point of then it was sort of point of like sort of methodological point that you don't impose the present on the past, you present on the past, that you have to understand things on their least to their own terms, at least to some degree. whereas i think some degree. whereas now i think it's not just our museums, but

like said, national like you said, the national trust , other institutions like trust, other institutions like universities , everything that is universities, everything that is cultural is being weaponized by activists . and so you see this activists. and so you see this this this quote that was included in a in a this telegraph article here talking about how how museums should be used to create a fairer future and take on an activist role. i mean, that is not the purpose of a museum. and it's something that we've been seeing across the board since 2020. >> indeed . i mean, michael, it's >> indeed. i mean, michael, it's a problem, isn't it? you go to a museum and you're told that this museum and you're told that this museum was only built as a result of the general pity of a benefactor who was involved in the trade . well, there are the slave trade. well, there are countless figures in history who were slave were involved in the slave trade, any of the great european cities will history of cities will have a history of bloodshed and human cruelty . so bloodshed and human cruelty. so why the lectures? >> well, i mean , that's >> well, i mean, that's a problem. but i on the other hand, i think for too long our

history has been the great men version of history, forgetting that actually there were lots of little people . there's also little people. there's also making history. the peasants , making history. the peasants, the workers, the people slaving, slaving away in the factories, not strict slavery, but akin to it. and if these museums and if these versions of history are reflecting that , that what reflecting that, that what actually happened to those people, to the little people, then great. it's when they start manufacturing a version of history that doesn't is not related to the truth that i have problems . problems. >> or when visit to a museum >> or when a visit to a museum feels apology. feels like one long apology. neil yeah, all or a lecture which you don't want or which you disagree with because cause the so—called woke narrative thatis the so—called woke narrative that is peddled by these museums is called history in many ways , is called history in many ways, slavery is many faceted event in the course of human history. >> i mean, who sold the slaves into slavery in the first place? how did the slave traders who

turned in ships on the shores turned up in ships on the shores of what's now nigeria get the slaves? didn't they didn't slaves? they didn't they didn't go out and capture them themselves. they didn't have the numbers of people to do numbers of people on board to do that. these slaves were rounded up that. these slaves were rounded ”p by that. these slaves were rounded up by black people in what was nigeria then. and sold in a merciless way. so this isn't a black and white issue where the whites are always in the wrong and the blacks are always in the right. it was an almost a universal found in the ancient world and for a very long time afterwards. >> okay. well, what's your view, mark gb news.com this show is the home of diverse opinions, so let me know what you think coming up in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with theresa may who said she's woke and proud. she won't want to miss my response . first, mark response. but first, my mark meets is the author meets guest is the author of an explosive and all explosive warts and all biography of the man could biography of the man who could well prime minister, well be our next prime minister, who the keir starmer? who is the real keir starmer? find out

next i'll be dealing with theresa may at 10:00. our worst prime minister in 100 years. but first, this is. yes it's time for mark meets. he is the ex top lawyer and director of public prosecutions who hopes to be our next prime minister, sir keir starmer. but given his fondness for sitting on the fence, what do we really know about this man who may be britain who may well be leading britain in a years time? what are his values or how left wing is he? is he someone that you can have a pint with and does he have what it takes to run this country a critical and country at a critical and challenging time in our history? well i'm delighted that well i'm delighted to say that his biographer joins me the well i'm delighted to say that his biographerjoins me the most published living author in the country with over 200 books to his name, nigel cawthorne . john, his name, nigel cawthorne. john, nigel has written keir starmer a life of contrasts . it's the life of contrasts. it's the unauthorised biography . it's out unauthorised biography. it's out now. and nigel, welcome to the show. he was a very successful lawyer, wasn't he? so why did he enter politics? >> i think from from his rather

humble and very left wing background . his parents were background. his parents were very on that side of politics and he's a man of commitment dunng and he's a man of commitment during his time as a lawyer, he spent an awful lot of time with colleagues , essentially colleagues, essentially outlawing outlawing capital punishment in many countries around the world. and they did this completely off their own back. this completely off their own back . you know, he's a man of back. you know, he's a man of commitment , back. you know, he's a man of commitment, indeed. >> so, i mean, he's often cast as tony to blair point zero, isn't he? but he campaigned for jeremy corbyn to be prime minister. is he more left wing than he makes out? well he certainly has a very background that way . that way. >> he was an anti—monarchist when he was was younger. but like most of us, as we get older, we moved to more towards

the centre and then that's where he's going heading now . he's going heading now. >> indeed. i mean he seems nigel doesn't he, to flip flop on policy , he tried to reverse policy, he tried to reverse brexit, now he loves it. he wanted a nationalised the utilities, now he doesn't. he was going to raise taxes on top earners . now he isn't the child earners. now he isn't the child benefit cap and of course £28 billion a year to save the planet , which billion a year to save the planet, which has billion a year to save the planet , which has been axed billion a year to save the planet, which has been axed as a policy . he why is he so policy. he why is he so indecisive of well , i've indecisive of well, i've a feeling that at the moment, if you were a sensitive will, leader of the opposition , you leader of the opposition, you just keep your mouth shut because is plainly the conservative government is falling apart and they're out to lose. >> he doesn't really need policies to win. he should just keep quiet and let . the natural keep quiet and let. the natural course of things because in a liberal democracy , as we have, liberal democracy, as we have,

you need to have a change of government, a change of party every so often when the conservatives have been there a long time, we know they've kind of run out of steam. so let the other lot have a go. well i think you're right. >> the less he says the better. we saw that this week with his outline solution for the migrant crisis, which involves a partnership with the eu , which i partnership with the eu, which i think will go down like a lead balloon in those red wall constituencies . nigel keir constituencies. nigel keir starmer has got himself in a pickle over how to define a woman. will this damage him politically, do you think ? politically, do you think? >> well, we are all having a bit of difficulty with that, aren't we? >> um, i'm not the these is this is so kind of arcane nonsense that's going on at the moment. >> uh, on the very fringes of politics who , hell, who the hell politics who, hell, who the hell cares ? as you say, you don't cares? as you say, you don't have a problem defining what a woman is. i don't have a problem

defining that either. when when? go home to my girlfriend and i know she's a woman . and the know she's a woman. and the problem with that . but why? why problem with that. but why? why are people making up these artificial difficulties for poor politicians who then have to stumble over this these landmines and only a tiny minority of people are concerned about these matters? >> well, i don't know, nigel. a landmine of his own making . i landmine of his own making. i mean, i can just say a woman is an adult female human woman, but that's something that starmer still hasn't really said . what still hasn't really said. what about his qualities ? is he about his qualities? is he clever ? clever? >> oh, he's certainly highly intelligent man . absolutely you intelligent man. absolutely you can't fault him on that. and he's obviously, as i say, a very committed moral man . um, and the committed moral man. um, and the one thing that everyone says about him that he's rather dull, but we've had rather too many

exciting politician turns. it's time to have a dull one. we need a new clement attlee to put things together again . things together again. >> what do we know about his private life ? nigel private life? nigel >> well , private life? nigel >> well, again, i think that that he's a pretty faithful husband and i'm sure there's been we've all had in our youth , um, minor flirtations that we don't really need to go into at this point in his life. i'm sure he's , he's a good husband and he's, he's a good husband and good father . good father. >> when you say minor flirtation , do you mean are you alleging that he's he's been adulterous in his marriage? >> oh, no, no , i'm absolutely >> oh, no, no, i'm absolutely not. i'm saying when he was a younger man before he was. oh, no, no, no, no, no . i wouldn't no, no, no, no, no. i wouldn't sell his reputation in that way at all. no, he so sowed his wild seeds. >> listen, it's a privilege to have the most published author in the country , nigel, by the

in the country, nigel, by the way, 200 books you've written one about keir starmer. what's the most surprising thing fact about keir starmer from your book? >> what's the most surprising? well i always love the fact that he's kind of a mate of flat fatboy slim. that makes him rather more exciting than than you'd think. >> that'll do me. that works for me. nigel are thrilled to have you on the show and look forward to talking to you about your many books. let me you that many books. let me tell you that nigel's of keir nigel's biography of keir starmer now. lots more to starmer is out now. lots more to come. first, here's a quick come. but first, here's a quick weather . weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening . >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . hope provided by the met office. hope you are able to enjoy the weekend . although the rather weekend. although the rather damp for many of us is damp end for many of us is setting us for what's to come setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during new working week , during the new working week, even of sunday, even into the end of sunday, some heavy thunderstorms

possible across parts of southeast england. torrential downpours. just take care downpours. so you just take care if are travelling there if you are travelling there overnight. elsewhere, the rain will more persistent will be turning more persistent and for western and heavy as well for western scotland. north—west scotland. parts of north—west england, underneath all the cloud around. for of it cloud around. for many of us, it will be rather warm. temperatures around temperatures holding up around 12 to 17 c. so a very mild start to monday morning. and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of thunderstorms as some of the thunderstorms as well, off, out well, clearing them off, out into north rain will be into the north sea. rain will be most persistent for of most persistent for parts of north—east behind north—east scotland. but behind that, there will some that, there will be some brighter developing brighter intervals developing still of still with a scattering of rather sharp showers to watch out though temperatures out for, though temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c. as we head into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its way in. so blustery winds developing for a good chunk of wales, england and northern ireland. gales northern ireland. coastal gales in . and it will be in places. and it will be bringing this band of rain initially at on bringing this band of rain initiallyat on tuesday bringing this band of rain initially at on tuesday , bringing this band of rain initiallyat on tuesday , but ireland at dawn on tuesday, but increasingly its way increasingly spreading its way eastwards . generally northwest eastwards. generally northwest england, seeing the brunt

england, wales seeing the brunt of the rainfall far south and far perhaps seeing some far north, perhaps seeing some dner far north, perhaps seeing some drier intervals in places, but still catching that still catching some of that rainfall . further showers as we rainfall. further showers as we head throughout wednesday, thursday well . by thursday and friday as well. by looks like things are heating up i >> -- >> boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news in the of weather on. gb news in the 10:00 hour. >> tomorrow's papers hot off the press with live pundit reaction and it might take a ten. i'll be deaung and it might take a ten. i'll be dealing with theresa may who says

next busy hour to come. happy sunday. one and all. it's10:00 on tv, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. in my take, attend theresa may says she's woke and proud. she's also been boasting about her record as far as i'm concerned, she was the worst prime minister in 100 years. i'll dealing with theresa may

i'll be dealing with theresa may in no uncertain terms in a couple of minutes. you won't want to miss it if politicians don't start listening to voters in regards to illegal immigration. net zero crime and wokery will there be an uprising? even bigger than brexit? i'll be putting that to tonight's newsmaker, ann widdecombe , on whether british widdecombe, on whether british democracy is in crisis . plus, democracy is in crisis. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from my top pundits. so a busy hour to come. theresa may is next. but first, the news with ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks, mark. good evening. our top stories tonight, the met police is set to speak to channel 4 and the sunday times after claims of rape and sexual assault were made against the comedian russell brand. a warning for those watching on television. the following footage contains flashing images . the force says it's aware of media reports of a series of

allegations and urged anyone who believes that they've been a victim of sexual assault to get in touch . it comes as the bbc in touch. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand launched their own urgent reviews . a warning some people reviews. a warning some people may find the following content distressing . distressing. >> he's like, so how many people have you had sex with? and i said, no one. i've never had sex with anyone . and he got an with anyone. and he got an erection straight away and he was like, oh my god. he's like, my baby, my baby. and pick me up and cradled me in his arms like and cradled me in his arms like a child and was stroking my hair. he's like, you're like hair. and he's like, you're like my dolly . russell engaged my little dolly. russell engaged in the behaviours of a groomer. looking back on it, i didn't even know what that was then or what that looked like. he would try to drive a wedge between me

and my parents. taught me to lie to them . to them. >> well, russell brand denies any criminality and insists that all of his relationships have been consensual . while media been consensual. while media lawyer jonathan code told us it's crucial that the allegations are examined . allegations are examined. >> good reporting outfits like you must be allowed to make allegations as, say, some hard things . we only have to think things. we only have to think very far back . huw edwards, very far back. huw edwards, kevin spacey , both were the kevin spacey, both were the subject of huge media assaults and both , it turns out, are and both, it turns out, are innocent . so these are very, innocent. so these are very, very difficult questions as to the protection of people's reputation on one hand. and the right of free speech on another in other news, sir keir starmer says he'll seek a much better brexit deal if labour wins the next election . next election. >> the party leader told the financial times that he'd tried to negotiate a closer trading relationship with the eu. labour

has ruled out rejoining the customs union or single market. however, the trade and cooperation agreement negotiated under boris johnson will be up for review in 2025. liz truss will claim rishi sunaks government has spent £35 billion more than she would have done speaking at the institute for government, the former prime minister will defend her time in charge nearly a year after the mini—budget that led to her resignation. according to the telegraph, ms truss will claim that under her plans, £18.4 billion would have been saved this year and next. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. back now to . mark play gb news. back now to. mark >> my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour. >> my thanks to ray addison, who's back in an hour . welcome who's back in an hour. welcome to mark dolan tonight. if politicians don't start listening to voters in regards to illegal immigration in net

zero, crime and wokery will there be an uprising even bigger than brexit? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, ann widdecombe, on whether british democracy is in crisis. do you feel heard? mark gb news. com. plus, tomorrow's newspaper. front pages and live reaction in the studio from my top pundits as we have the brilliant emma webb, michael crick and neil hamilton, plus , they'll be hamilton, plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day. so a packed hour and those papers are coming. we're looking for more potential allegations around russell brand. lots to get through. but first, my take . at ten. theresa may remember her well. she's told times radio that she's woke and proud as she called for a sensitive approach to issues surrounding gender. the former prime minister compared being asked whether she was a woke woman to having been

asked in the past whether she was a feminist, adding, well, i wore a t shirt which said , this wore a t shirt which said, this is what a feminist looks like . is what a feminist looks like. really. mrs. may does a feminist support the woke idea of gender ideology with fully intact biological males who call themselves women participating in female sport and breaking all records , as does a feminist records, as does a feminist support the idea of men who call themselves women entering female toilets, changing rooms, rape crisis centres , or even women's crisis centres, or even women's prisons . crisis centres, or even women's prisons. does a feminist support the idea that lesbians are bigots or transphobic if they're not attract to a biological, male sporting an erect penis? theresa may is a feminist. is she? well with friends like that, who needs enemies ? as mrs. that, who needs enemies? as mrs. may says, she's woke well, woke transgender ideology, which says that you can change your sex and that you can change your sex and that men are women and that women are men is not just an affront to any self—respecting

feminist , affront to any self—respecting feminist, but it's an affront to women across the board. as prime minister , she put forward plans. minister, she put forward plans. now scrapped, thankfully, to allow self id where people could simply define their own gender without out a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. woke indeed, it's my view that theresa may was probably the worst prime minister in 100 years, someone who could be relied upon to make the wrong decision at every turn , rolling decision at every turn, rolling over to the eu with her disastrous withdrawal agreement that boris johnson and lord frost had so much trouble unpicking the harder brexit that was eventually achieved is delivering the goods for this country . trade deals all over country. trade deals all over the place. economic growth since the place. economic growth since the pandemic higher than france, germany and italy . i could go on germany and italy. i could go on none of that thanks to may, inheriting a small but workable majority in 2016 from david cameron. in a moment of madness and hubris , theresa may and hubris, theresa may demonstrated her political ineptitude by calling a snap

election going to the country early in order to boost her majority, but instead eviscerating it. she listened to her foolish advisers fiona hill and nick timothy , unveiling the and nick timothy, unveiling the hated dementia tax, which would see families beset with that illness, potentially having to sell their home. her performance in that 2017 election campaign was so abysmal, her public speaking skills were up there with shane macgowan after a trip to the dentist. her campaign was so bad it saw us flirt with the possibility of a jeremy corbyn led government, which would have been an economic and national security disaster for the country. the result in the end was no overall majority and a reliance on the dup to form a government. it was a mess. and her premiership an almighty shambles . her premiership an almighty shambles. but there's no humility , no self—reflection humility, no self—reflection from this ex—pm , who has a book from this ex—pm, who has a book on the way about her glorious time in power which will be perfect for my winter firewood. theresa may is not without her

talents. the longest serving home secretary since the war. some achievement giving the given the tumultuous nature of life in that department. she's clearly a person that's hard working. she's a decent human being. she's committed and obviously bright and she's always spoken up for the plight of vulnerable women both at home and abroad. and she said she's proud to be woke based upon the original definition, which is alert to injustice . and of alert to injustice. and of course, in that sense, i would hope almost all of us are indeed woke . but these flippant woke. but these flippant comments are an admission of the current state of the conservative party , which is no conservative party, which is no longer conservative at all. the likes of theresa may and many other so—called conservative cvs would prefer to virtue signal and follow the ultra progressive scripture than call out the anti—scientific, toxic madness of wokery, which is befalling us and which is so at odds with western values and enlightenment. unfortunately

although she was only in power for a short time, mrs. may made her presence felt no . her presence felt no. significantly, she signed the net zero target into law in 2019. the economic damage for which is yet to come, not to mention the energy instability. some legacy. theresa may might be woke, but there are a lot of other words that could describe her too, none of which are appropriate for a family show. thank god she's gone . what do thank god she's gone. what do you think, mark? at gbnews.com or get to your email shortly . or get to your email shortly. but let's hear from my top punst. but let's hear from my top pundits . the but let's hear from my top pundits. the uk director of but let's hear from my top pundits . the uk director of the pundits. the uk director of the common sense society, emma webb , the very embodiment of common sense , broadcaster and sense, broadcaster and journalist and tv news legend michael crick and an icon of british politics, former conservative mp and now the leader of ukip, neil hamilton . leader of ukip, neil hamilton. let me ask you, neil, what you think about theresa may's

admission that she's woke and what it says about the modern tory party? >> well, i think you've done her a tremendous disservice. she's not the worst prime minister in a tremendous disservice. she's not lastworst prime minister in a tremendous disservice. she's not last 100t prime minister in a tremendous disservice. she's not last 100 years; minister in a tremendous disservice. she's not last 100 years. iminister in a tremendous disservice. she's not last 100 years. i think er in the last 100 years. i think she's prime minister she's the worst prime minister in that she in the last 250 years that she compares very well with lord north, who lost american north, who lost the american colonies. was an colonies. i think she was an utterly catastrophic prime minister and her confession of wokery just just is all all of a piece with the other disasters which you enumerated in your take a minute ago. the poison pill of the net zero commitment which has left us with the complete squandering of the opportunity cases of brexit, which have actually done a lot to discredit what otherwise should have been a feather in the cap of a conservative government . so the reverberation government. so the reverberation portions of her premiership will be with us in a very unpleasant way for many, many years to come. >> well, michael crick, i wonder whether i perhaps are being harsh on theresa may. we've just heard liz truss defending her legacy there. she was only in

office for 44 days and i suppose compared to boris johnson and liz truss, she cuts quite a regal figure. >> yeah . she's contrary to what >> yeah. she's contrary to what neil says. she wasn't even the worst prime minister of the last five years. that was liz truss , five years. that was liz truss, followed by boris johnson . she followed by boris johnson. she was a pretty bad prime minister, i'll accept. but then she faced appalling circumstances the whole dealing with brexit thing that nobody really knew how to deal with brexit, nobody really thought it through. well you weren't available and then and then of course she made it worse by that disaster. oestrus decision to call an election . decision to call an election. but as for this woke thing, she clearly means woke in its original sense as you've suggested. in other words, alert or awake, if you like , to or awake, if you like, to injustice and racial injustice injustice and racial injustice in particular. and of course, there was that famous speech on there was that famous speech on the steps of downing street when she talked about burning injustice and the fact that if you're face you're born black, you face

discrimination in the criminal justice system. and so on. on the other hand, this is the same woman that presided over the home during the hostile home office during the hostile environment campaign in and also presided over the whole windrush scandal , although of course that scandal, although of course that had been going back decades. so it's a mixed picture there, but i'm glad that to see that she calls herself woke in the traditional sense. i don't think she means woke in the way in which that word has been evolved and corrupted . i don't think she and corrupted. i don't think she means woke in terms of all the trans stuff and so on. >> emma i'm sure she's a decent human being, not without her talents . am i too harsh on talents. am i too harsh on theresa may >> i don't i, i don't think you're wrong that she was a bad prime minister i think that these particular statements about being woke show how little she knows. i think it's an extremely uninformed thing for her to say . in fact, it's extremely uninformed thing for her to say. in fact, it's just simply illiterate of how the word is currently being used. and you can talk about, you

know, the dictionary definition of woke or how it might have once but in the once been used, but in the current context, that is absolutely not what what it means. and i think either she is being will fully ignorant in the way that she's putting forward her opinion or i think more likely is that she just doesn't really know what she's talking about. doesn't know about. she doesn't really know the background and the intellectual background. and in support of the term woke . and i support of the term woke. and i think mark going back to your question, no , i don't think you question, no, i don't think you are being over the top . maybe to are being over the top. maybe to say that she's the worst in 100 years. i don't know. but i think that there's something about her ill informed way of going about that particular interview that i think is represented of her entire premiership . entire premiership. >> would you like to defend theresa may and her legacy market? gb news.com coming up next, if politicians don't start listening to voters in regards to illegal immigration, net zero crime and the aforementioned

wokery will there be an uprising even bigger than brexit? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, ann widdecombe . and next. first, widdecombe. and next. first, we'll be giving you the results of a very important mark dolan. and tonight, people poll with a million people expected to have turned to private health care by the of the year. have brits the end of the year. have brits given up on the nhs? the results are in. that's next. plus, ann widdecombe, see you

radio. in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. >> we've been asking, with a million people expected to have turned to private health care by the end of the year, have brits given up on nhs? the results given up on the nhs? the results are in and 68% of you say yes and 32% say no. a strong majority that feel let down by our health service now writing in today's sunday telegraph. it's excellent. editor alastair heath says that britain is now an elite dictatorship where majority opinions are crushed. he goes on to write britain's

deranged war on cars. our looming ban on gas boilers, the de—banking ing scandal, the failure to prosecute crime, the attempted cancellation of women, the sabotage of the brexit agenda, the scale of migrant action. welcome to anti—democratic britain , where anti —democratic britain, where the anti—democratic britain, where the beleaguered majority is increasingly subject to the whims of an entitled activist elite that often seems to despise the people over which it exercises so much power . well, exercises so much power. well, if this is true and continues, will there be an uprising even bigger than brexit as suggested by heath in his article? let's put that to you. tonight's newsmaker, former government minister, bestselling author and television personality ann widdecombe . and is britain now widdecombe. and is britain now run by a woke or autocratic elite out of touch with the public? >> oh, yes. i think there can be any doubt about that at all. i mean, when they pass the laws that they've passed for net zero

one, does wonder, you know, if they can even find their boiler, if they even know where it is . if they even know where it is. you know, they're apparently so big that from the economies and concerns of ordinary people. so, yes, i think they're very detached. now, the question is , detached. now, the question is, you know, will there be a revolt against that at the next general election, which is when , you election, which is when, you know, the next democratic test is going to take place on any scale ? now, there should be and scale? now, there should be and it's really down to individual courage. i'm saying to people at the moment, look, if you've had enough, really had enough, if you really had enough, if you really had enough, change. enough, then vote for change. because if you don't, you're going get more of same. going to get more of the same. now, think that in 2019, that now, i think that in 2019, that was quite a difficult message to get across because you had jeremy corbyn who people jeremy corbyn who scared people witless , so they didn't dare to witless, so they didn't dare to vote for a third party because if they did , they might let if they did, they might let corbyn in. that doesn't apply this time . you've got an this time. you've got an extremely weak and feeble , you extremely weak and feeble, you know , undefined almost . keir

know, undefined almost. keir starmer it's very difficult to know what he thinks and what his principles are because he tells us something different every five minutes. so but people aren't scared by him in the way that they were scared by corbyn. so this might be the right time to say, look, you know, if you've really enough you've really had enough of this, see this, if you want to see immigration if immigration under control, if you want to see brexit implemented , and if you to implemented, and if you want to see shoplifters prosecute then see shoplifters prosecute, then you've do away with you've just got to do away with those who are failing to do that. and in their place. but a party that would and that's why i've joined reform . i didn't i've joined reform. i didn't join reform immediately after it ceased to be the brexit party because i wasn't sure . i'm now because i wasn't sure. i'm now very sure that i cannot trust the major parties to do anything that the nation wants. >> but how does and sorry to interrupt you. >> apologies, ann. how does somebody like the leader of reform uk or or the leader of ukip, neil hamilton, who's with us tonight, how do they create and produce that brexit moment ? and produce that brexit moment? because our electoral system is

stacked against them when will this political revolution come? it will come when people have had more than they can take. >> and that's what happened with brexit and the european elections . okay, it was run to elections. okay, it was run to a different system, but the fact is that the brexit party swept the board and demolished the other parties . now, partly other parties. now, partly people dared to do that because after all, this was the european parliament. it wasn't westminster . so probably safe to westminster. so probably safe to do that. but also people just wanted to scream one word. enough. you know, we've had enough. enough. you know, we've had enough . and i think that that enough. and i think that that thatis enough. and i think that that that is there at the moment. i'm finding it everywhere i go, people are saying to me they may well not vote for the party. they voted for all their lives. usually that's a tory party but i've heard it from labour people as change. as well. people want change. you'll only get change if you vote for it. you can't sit there and i want change and then and say, i want change and then vote to keep the same and vote to keep the same thing and expect change to happen because it won't . it won't. and in it won't. it won't. and in

exactly the same way that when people moan about the demise of christianity in this country , i christianity in this country, i say, well, that's down to christians. you it's down say, well, that's down to chthem|s. you it's down say, well, that's down to chthem|s. you so it's down say, well, that's down to chthem|s. you so i it's down say, well, that's down to chthem|s. you so i say down say, well, that's down to chthem|s. you so i say to nn to them moving. so i say to people who complain about the demise of democracy, fine , it's demise of democracy, fine, it's down to you. which way are you going to vote in the next election? you are you election? you know, are you actually to against actually going to vote against this you going to go on this or are you going to go on voting if you're voting for it? and if you're going on voting for it, going to go on voting for it, don't to me. don't complain to me. >> a call arms ann >> a call to arms from ann widdecombe, one i very widdecombe, one that i find very inspiring and briefly, you inspiring and briefly, if you can, medical council can, the general medical council has mention of the has removed all mention of the word mother from a maternity document for its staff , document for its staff, replacing female specific language with gender neutral terms like surrogate parents instead of surrogate mother and its internal menopause policy document has also been updated and is stripped out of all references to women. as someone that definitely doesn't struggle to define her gender, your reaction ? reaction? >> well, my reaction is that they need some basic biology lessons . i they need some basic biology lessons. i mean, the only

they need some basic biology lessons . i mean, the only way lessons. i mean, the only way you give birth is if you're a woman. you know, a man does not give birth and you know what is a woman who's given birth? she's a woman who's given birth? she's a mother. and most women will be deeply insulted not to be referred to as mothers because it's one of the most important things, probably the most important thing in their lives is that they're a mother. they want to be called mum and they want to be called mum and they want the outside to world recognise mother, know recognise them as mother, know what is the matter with these people? >> well, well indeed, look, people? >know.l, well indeed, look, people? >know thatell indeed, look, people? >know that you |deed, look, people? >know that you were, look, people? >know that you were very look, i know that you were very and you close to your i >> -- >> very l>> very quickly >> very quickly comes back to our our previous discussion when we were talking about the disempowered of the individual. you know, it doesn't matter how much they protest , they're not much they protest, they're not going to be called mother anymore, know, because the anymore, you know, because the powers be don't to. powers that be don't want to. >> perfect case in point >> it's a perfect case in point and a thrill . and i look and always a thrill. and i look forward to seeing a forward to seeing you in a week's thanks to former week's time. my thanks to former government minister, bestselling author and television personality ann widdecombe. always laying it down, not pulling her punches . lots more pulling her punches. lots more to get through those papers are

on the way. but what's happening with the weather? take a look . with the weather? take a look. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey who with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . i provided by the met office. i hope you are able to enjoy the weekend. rather weekend. although the rather damp for many of us is damp end for many of us is setting for what's to come setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during new working week , during the new working week, even of sunday, even into the end of sunday, some thunderstorm some heavy thunderstorm was possible across parts of south—east england . torrential south—east england. torrential downpours. take downpours. so you just take care if there if you are travelling there overnight. elsewhere the rain will turning more persistent overnight. elsewhere the rain will heavy ning more persistent overnight. elsewhere the rain will heavy ninwellre persistent overnight. elsewhere the rain will heavy ninwellre [westernt and heavy as well for western scotland. north—west scotland. parts of north—west england, all the england, underneath all the cloud many of us, cloud around for many of us, it will rather temperatures will be rather warm temperatures holding up around 12 to 17 c. so very mild start to monday morning and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of the thunderstorms as clearing thunderstorms as well, clearing them into the north them off, out into the north sea, rain will be most persistent for parts of north—east behind

north—east scotland. but behind that will some that, there will be some brighter developing brighter intervals developing still a scattering of still with a scattering of rather showers to watch rather sharp showers to watch out temperatures out for, though, temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c. as we head into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its way in. so blustery winds developing for a good chunk england and good chunk of wales, england and northern ireland, coastal gales in places and it will be bringing band rain bringing this band of rain initially across northern ireland but ireland at dawn on tuesday. but increasingly spreading its way eastwards . and generally eastwards. and generally northwest wales seeing northwest england, wales seeing the brunt of the rainfall far south and far north, perhaps seeing some drier intervals in places, still catching some places, but still catching some of rainfall . further of that rainfall. further showers as we head throughout wednesday, thursday and friday as . by a brighter outlook as well. by a brighter outlook with boxt solar. >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> we've got tomorrow's front pages with an extraordinary headune pages with an extraordinary headline in the financial times about the labour party. so lots to get through . i'll see you in

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radio. >> well, a big reaction to my take at ten. oh, i'm loving that little zoom. thank you for that, megan. taking the show to a very hollywood direction . yes, in my hollywood direction. yes, in my take at ten, i raised an important issue, which is theresa may. she said she's woke and proud. i think she's potentially worst prime potentially the worst prime minister in 100 years. your response is coming in thick and fast. jenny. hi, mark. love your show. was the worst show. theresa may was the worst prime ever woke messed prime minister ever woke messed up. brexit did damage to our police force and the list goes on. cannot stand the woman backbench troublemaker. on. cannot stand the woman backbench troublemaker . she's backbench troublemaker. she's like smell. never goes like a bad smell. never goes away hey don't pull away. hey blimey, don't pull your . mark at gb news your punches. mark at gb news dot com. it's time now for this . it is 1030. time for your front pages . we start with the

front pages. we start with the financial times. now listen , financial times. now listen, it's normally a complete snooze fest. that paper. but i've got to what explosive to say, what an explosive headune to say, what an explosive headline government headline a labour government would to rewrite the brexit would seek to rewrite the brexit deal would seek to rewrite the brexit deal. keir starmer pledges . sir deal. keir starmer pledges. sir keir starmer has promised to seek a major rewrite of britain's brexit deal in 2025 if labour win the next election , labour win the next election, saying he owes it to his children to rebuild relations with the eu. starmer told the ft that he would put a closer trading relationship with brussels and a new partnership with business at the heart of his bolster britain's his efforts to bolster britain's economic growth . as britain's economic growth. as britain's trade cooperation agreement trade and cooperation agreement with the negotiated by boris with the eu negotiated by boris johnson, is due for review in 2025. starmer said he saw this as an important moment to reset relations , as almost everyone relations, as almost everyone recognises that the deal johnson struck is not a good deal, says starmer. it's far too thin, so there you go. what do we think about that? i'll get reaction from neil hamilton, michael crick webb just crick and emma webb in just a moment . boiling point climate moment. boiling point climate tops the un agenda is another

story in the ft. the guardian. next, unite launches red wall push for more radical labour policies. labour's biggest union backer, unite, is launching a grass roots campaign in industrial constituencies across the uk, demanding more radical policies on energy, steel and green jobs. union leader sorry unhes green jobs. union leader sorry unites leader sharon graham, who's been publicly critical of keir starmer, said funding earmarked for labour would instead be funnelled into stoking public pressure for the party to shift its position on key issues, including nationalisation of energy companies. also in the guardian , the story that won't go away tv chiefs investigate brand allegations, though of course that's russell brand, pictured leaving a london theatre after performing a comedy set last night. of course, my methods in extreme , highly troubling and extreme, highly troubling and devastating allegations of rape and sexual assault allegations, which brand denies an open secret, says the eye newspaper

russell brand . and broadcasters russell brand. and broadcasters face questions over failures . face questions over failures. the mirror brand and predator claims. what did tv chiefs know ? metro brand what did tv bosses know following a similar line there to the mirror, it looks like the tv industry now will have questions to answer in relation to what at this stage we must be very crystal clear about our allegations . also, the about our allegations. also, the daily star running with russell brand, but also i'm afraid the weather is on the turn . weather is on the turn. hurricane lee storms in with a fortnight's rain in a day. britain on the lash, but not in a good way. not in a michael crick way. why does it? i don't even know. does he go on the lash? >> i'm sure he does. >> that's how he gets all those exclusives. why does it always rain hurricane lee is to rain on us? hurricane lee is to batter britain with 60 mile an rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegustsain with 60 mile an rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegusts .n with 60 mile an rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegusts . and:h 60 mile an rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegusts . and then mile an rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegusts . and then there's1 rain on us? hurricane lee is to battegusts . and then there's the hour gusts. and then there's the 11 day stretch rain and 11 day stretch of rain and floods. it breezy easy out floods. take it breezy easy out there, say the daily star . okay

there, say the daily star. okay let's get reaction from my aforementioned fantastic pundits. tonight, we have emma webb, michael crick and neil hamilton and i think, emma, we should start with the feet, which is a sentence i've never said before. by the way. i didn't mind the feet. it's good journalism, but can be a touch dry. but i think that this will definitely spike the interest of my listeners my viewers and listeners because labour government would seek to rewrite brexit deal. starmer rewrite the brexit deal. starmer pledges. he the man to do it? pledges. is he the man to do it? >> it's very interesting . sting >> it's very interesting. sting seeing financial times seeing the financial times headune seeing the financial times headline alongside the guardian that they want to focus on the red wall, but also they're just about to really annoy all of those brexit voters in the red wall whose votes they're trying to seek so slightly confused by their strategies on this . i their strategies on this. i think a lot of people will be very concerned about the possibility a starmer possibility of a starmer government as this article suggests, seems owing to the way this puts it, is reduce trade friction. but what we know that means is pulling us into a

closer union or a closer relationship with the eu. and as we know , that has a kind of we know, that has a kind of gravitational pull that likes to suck the sovereignty out of any nafion suck the sovereignty out of any nation that it's involved with. so i think a lot of people, myself included, as a brexiteer, would be concerned by that. but i think looking at the guardian headline, it looks like their strategy is a little bit confused, doesn't it? >> it does a bit. >> it does a bit. >> but this will certainly concern brexit supporters . neil, concern brexit supporters. neil, theidea concern brexit supporters. neil, the idea that labour would renegotiate the brexit deal, given the fact that although it's not perfect , our economic it's not perfect, our economic performance is favourable compared to our eu counterparts as well. >> we've hardly started the brexit process is the truth of the matter . so it won't be that the matter. so it won't be that difficult for keir starmer to reunite us if not in the formal legal sense at least in the informal one, whereby we accept everything that is written in brussels, even though we don't have a vote there or a voice at. and this was always inevitable because i mean, the key to keir

starmer is that he's a globalist , a technocrat bureaucrat , and , a technocrat bureaucrat, and he isn't really interested in democracy. going back to what ian whitcomb was saying, where's the evidence? >> he's not interested in democracy. >> well, because he's part of this miasma which covers the political landscape where there isn't really much difference between the tories , labour, between the tories, labour, liberals, scottish nationalists, welsh nationalists, you know, they're all a mush in the middle. but i mean the key to keir starmer i saw last week or the week before on some podcast or radio interview that he did , or radio interview that he did, watched it where he was asked to say to choose between westminster and davos and unhesitant . he said, davos, you unhesitant. he said, davos, you know , davos man, he's davos man know, davos man, he's davos man like tony blair before him personified . well, as indeed his personified. well, as indeed his sunak, of course . i mean, they sunak, of course. i mean, they are all of the same mould and the idea of free markets and entrepreneurship doesn't even enter their thinking. they don't understand it because they think

governments actually do good things. but governments actually have done disastrous things, as we know, in the look at what's happenedin we know, in the look at what's happened in the last five years, the experiences that we've the worst experiences that we've had because of the government's response to covid they got response to covid were they got it spectacularly wrong. and this is happens if you is what happens if you concentrate the hands concentrate power in the hands of a small number of people . of a small number of people. yes, that's capitalism. >> it was really w.h.o. that respond to the pandemic, not our sovereign government, of course. >> and the who. wants to control governments all around the world. the new compact on on health, which the un has been pushing , health, which the un has been pushing, like the tax compact, which this government idiotically has signed up to, could be a minimum rate of corporation tax of 15% all around the world. competition between governments is as important as competition in any economy. >> i wonder , michael, whether >> i wonder, michael, whether labour and keir starmer is more expose posed to the issues around brexit than rishi sunak because he's trying to ride two

horses, isn't he? >> to placate to placate metropolitan labour voters who loathe brexit and to placate red wall voters who love it? >> yeah. although sunak's got to do the same thing. i mean, sunak is in danger of losing votes in the south—east metropolitan england and losing the red wall. so they've both got the same problem. but this headline really, i mean, the normally sober feet, well, it looks like their headline writers have been on the lash , if you don't mind on the lash, if you don't mind me saying so. i mean , i can't me saying so. i mean, i can't read the text because the prints too small. but as described by you and in the subheads, a new trading deal. well, you believe in free trade. you will. we all believe in free trade. the more trading deals, the better . trading deals, the better. resetting what's resetting relations. what's wrong with that? he's not. starmer not talking about starmer is not talking about overturning brexit, rejoining the it's much ado about the eu. it's much ado about nothing. as for this story in the guardian about unite launching a red wall push for more radical labour policies, well, all i can say is they won't get anywhere because the

days a powerful days when unite were a powerful force in the labour party are oven force in the labour party are over. however, reassure over. however, let me reassure you, anti net zero is in the studio tonight that one of one of unites policies , one of of unites policies, one of unhes of unites policies, one of unites policies is to overturn labour's commitment to not not having any more north sea oil licences as indeed that is a policy pursued by another major labour party union, the gmb . but labour party union, the gmb. but again, much ado about nothing . again, much ado about nothing. the that labour . i agree with the that labour. i agree with neil on this actually starmer's government will be incredibly centrist and in most things it won't be much different from the sunak government. >> however, is there trouble brewing for keir starmer? i will give him credit that he's demonstrated some degree of political ruthlessness evicting jeremy corbyn, a totemic figure from the party tackling anti—semitism and fair play. he has made labour well. >> i don't know if he has tackled anti—semitism. there's a group of left wing, a left wing jewish group who've actually

accused labour party of accused the labour party of anti—semitism in itself in the in the way they've expelled many of the people who've been expelled, supposedly for anti—semitism lo and behold, anti—semitism are lo and behold, themselves jewish. >> well, there you go. this is, of course , a complex area, but i of course, a complex area, but i think it can be widely agreed he's made progress on that issue , to , rehabilitated the party to a certain extent terms of the certain extent in terms of the scourge, smear of. scourge, the smear of. >> he's almost entirely >> but he's almost entirely wiped out anything to do with palestinian rights in terms of labour policy, which was always an important strand of labour policy , no matter where you policy, no matter where you stood in the party. it's now become verboten. i mean, the labour party has become more cautious on middle cautious on the whole middle east issue than the left in east issue than the left is in israel . israel. >> however, i think that you're wrong to gloss over this story in ft about a better in the ft about a better collaboration with the eu and smooth the trade. and i'll tell you why. because let's look at the substance. you're about the substance . he announced more substance. he announced more details week of the details this week of the solution for the illegal migrant crisis in the channel, and that

was to do a deal with the eu that would involve accepting a quota of upwards of 100,000 migrants into the government's figure. >> not his. >> not his. >> well, right, but put together, if you're going to do that labour is the eu failed to get rid of sorry of course. of course. but if you're going to do a deal the eu, if you're do a deal with the eu, if you're going with going to collaborate with brussels over migrants, you're once handing once again handing sovereignty back our european nations. back to our european nations. >> when do deal with >> well, when you do a deal with anybody and anybody about anything and brexit governments are going to be doing deals with people all over the world. that was part of the of brexit. you the idea of brexit. you inevitably, you hand bit inevitably, you hand a bit of sovereignty other side sovereignty to the other side and get bit of sovereignty and you get a bit of sovereignty over . in of the over them. but in terms of the migrant crisis, look, this government has failed to do anything about it . do you really anything about it. do you really believe rwanda or barges believe that rwanda or barges off portland? bill are the answer to the whole migrant issue? what starmer is trying to do is he's trying. he's hoping that he'll get on better with the europeans and this to the europeans and this going to see macron is perhaps part of that. he'll get on better with the europeans and they will be more do a deal that more inclined to do a deal that

means that more prevention of migrants crossing the channel illegally in boats and at the same time, we will agree to take migrants that cross the mediterranean. >> neil a deal with the eu to fix the crisis. the only solution there is absolutely no question that the eu is not going to do us any favours whatsoever and macron is delighted to export all his illegal migrants from italy to britain, and he has no intention whatsoever of doing any kind of deal , he whatsoever of doing any kind of deal, he said. >> anyway, this is brussels responsibility, not his, because you've got nothing to worry about. well, no. what we do , we about. well, no. what we do, we do have a lot to worry about, but because the current but that's because the current government is too supine to want to do anything about the european convention human european convention on human rights on rights or the un convention on refugees is the legal refugees, which is the legal underpinning of all these challenges to a policy which i agree with you, rwanda to do. >> if you come out of the convention on human rights, are you round up all you going to round up all the refugee or and put them in boats and land them on the shores of

normandy ? normandy? >> what what i would do is >> yes. what what i would do is that would be against international law at gunpoint. >> are you this is the >> are you this is what the australians the australians did with the refugees from indonesia and it stopped. bang, just like stopped. it bang, just like that. and that is exactly what we should do. the belgians have had difficulty whatsoever in had no difficulty whatsoever in stopping illegal migration across the channel from their ports, the french have no ports, but the french have no interest helping us because, interest in helping us because, of battle of of course, the battle of waterloo and memories go back a long way of the differences between us. and worst of all, of course, we saved them in 1940 and they've certainly never forgiven us for that. but but macron anyway , is another macron anyway, is another globalist technocrat , and he's globalist technocrat, and he's he wants to punish us for having the temerity to leave the european union and the whole of the european union bureaucracy wants to punish us for. brexit les autres, of course it might want to follow us. >> when you when you back back brexit. >> no, no. on the contrary. >> no, no. on the contrary. >> and you should have thought that it's super hard. it's going to harder. look, you've

that it's super hard. it's going to to harder. look, you've that it's super hard. it's going to to resolve rder. look, you've that it's super hard. it's going to to resolve rder. whole/ou've that it's super hard. it's going to to recrisis, der. whole/ou've that it's super hard. it's going to to recrisis, which fole you've that it's super hard. it's going to to recrisis, which is e/ou've that it's super hard. it's going to to recrisis, which is only've that it's super hard. it's going to toto crisis, which is only've that it's super hard. it's going to toto gets, which is only've that it's super hard. it's going to toto get worse h is only've that it's super hard. it's going to toto get worse and only've that it's super hard. it's going to toto get worse and worsee that it's super hard. it's going to toto get worse and worse as going to get worse and worse as the decades to come, as the middle planet becomes middle of the planet becomes unbearable. live on, live in. unbearable. to live on, live in. and everybody's going to want to live with the eu on this issue. >> involve us accepting. it >> will involve us accepting. it will accepting a will make a deal. us accepting a certain migrants via. certain number of migrants via. >> think it will in the long >> i think it will in the long term, yes. >> i think it will in the long terr if yes. >> i think it will in the long terr if i'm. >> i think it will in the long terr if i'm being honest it, >> if i'm being honest about it, i how will brexit supporters >> how will brexit supporters think a policy like think about a policy like that? >> well, think i think >> emma well, i think i think brexit be brexit supporters will be looking thinking looking at this and thinking exactly the thing me, exactly the same thing as me, which this bad under which is if this is bad under the conservatives, it's going to be starmer. be so much worse under starmer. as this comment that as neil said, this comment that he asked at he made when he was asked at westminster or davos and without a beat, he didn't miss a beat. he said davos because he believes more in his international all elite chums than he does in our nation and parliamentary democracy. he doesn't believe in our national institutions. he believes in international institutions. and i think he thinks that this this suggests that, you know, he's going on a tour and cosying up to internationalist mates , to his internationalist mates, but he's also got a strategy of

trying to target red wall voters. so he's , to use david voters. so he's, to use david goodhart's terminology , erg a goodhart's terminology, erg a nowhere trying to reach somewheres. and it's just not going to work. >> look, we've got so much to come . let me tell you, greg, come. let me tell you, greg, what papers are in, because i want tell my millions of want to tell my millions of viewers. okay. the mail and viewers. okay. so the mail and the sun next. many thanks to meghan and greg for doing a great job tonight. by the way, i've got say, the dream team, i've got to say, the dream team, listen folks, let's look listen, folks, let's have a look at got. yes. coming at what we've got. yes. coming up in an exclusive mark dolan tonight we've up in an exclusive mark dolan tonig asking we've up in an exclusive mark dolan tonig asking if we've up in an exclusive mark dolan tonig asking if politicians�*ve up in an exclusive mark dolan tonig asking if politicians don't been asking if politicians don't start listening to voters in regard illegal immigration. regard to illegal immigration. net zero crime and wokery will there be uprising thing even there be an uprising thing even bigger than brexit? that's my poll. the results are in. i will reveal all next. plus, my punst reveal all next. plus, my pundits will nominate their headune pundits will nominate their headline heroes and back page zeros . a big part to

in two. can brexit be trusted with labour emails coming in thick

and fast? barry says hi mark. the lead article in the times regarding the renegotiation of brexit by the labour party firmly and clearly establishes that that party, together with the eu, has no association excuse me, it has no association with and no time for democracy . with and no time for democracy. barry they're not happy, feels frozen out by labour's plans to renegotiate the brexit deal . renegotiate the brexit deal. okay, let's have a look now at our mark dolan tonight people's poll . we've been asking if poll. we've been asking if politicians don't start listening to voters, that's you in regards to illegal immigration, net zero crime and wokery will there be an uprising? even bigger than brexit? well, look at the results of this. 88% say yes, there will be a revolution if they don't listen to the public. 11% say no . okay. straight into 11% say no. okay. straight into the mail newspaper now, hot off the mail newspaper now, hot off the press , courtesy of melissa. the press, courtesy of melissa. thank you to melissa for her excellent work this weekend as well. and lottie, we've had the

dream team. i've got to say, daily why was the left so daily mail. why was the left so besotted with this self—confessed narcissist? asked guy adams. also lucy letby may have murdered three more babies prosecutions . main expert prosecutions. main expert witness tells the mail how he fears the nurse killed several other infants and tried to harm as many as 15 more. just allegations at this stage . and allegations at this stage. and the sun newspaper , of course, the sun newspaper, of course, the sister paper of the times and the sunday times who have broken this story and this set of allegations about russell brown, which he denies, shock at tv star claims bbc's urgent inquiry cops appeal for victims. bbc probe de—man brand is the headune. bbc probe de—man brand is the headline . okay let's get now the headline. okay let's get now the nominations for headline hero and back page zero from my top punst and back page zero from my top pundits tonight , emma webb, pundits tonight, emma webb, michael crick and neil hamilton. so emma, who is your headline hero? >> all of those people who

bought roisin murphy's . i don't bought roisin murphy's. i don't know if i'm saying her name correctly. there rasheen. rasheen. rasheen murphy's album . for anybody who doesn't know, she posted something on facebook criticising puberty blockers and expressing concern for protecting vulnerable children . protecting vulnerable children. and then the bbc, there was a controversy around the bbc of them not playing her music and so on. so she's gone to number five in the charts with her solo album and it's her highest rating , her highest placing rating, her highest placing sorry , solo solo piece of music sorry, solo solo piece of music and ad so i'm nominating all of the people who bought it to push back against the scandal and attempt at cancelling her. >> michael, it is a crazy world where a singer makes a post on facebook where they say they're concerned about medication for young children that would stop them pubescent gets cancelled . them pubescent gets cancelled. >> it's an appalling world and it's frightens people to say what they think. it frightens

proper, intelligent, calm and courteous debate to right. >> well, look, you are the embodiment of calm and courteous debate. so if you'd like me to take take us to your headline hero. >> well, my headline hero is john former head of john riley, the former head of sky who this week having sky news, who this week having left sky news expose , posed the left sky news expose, posed the pathetic , supine, compliant, pathetic, supine, compliant, weak way in which he , he and weak way in which he, he and other television bosses gave in to censorship by buckingham palace during the coronation and the palace has the right to veto certain images from that occasion. a public occasion, a state occasion forevermore. and they've given in to that pathetic they're not fit to hold office. none of them. >> i agree with with you on that one. one. >> one. >> what do you think about that? >> what do you think about that? >> madness, isn't it? >> that's madness, isn't it? that all broadcast media that i mean, all broadcast media should able to hold the should be able to hold the monarchy ? of course, monarchy to account? of course, warts and all. >> absolutely and we >> of course. absolutely and we have in the past had absolute monarchies . we don't have an monarchies. we don't have an

absolute monarchy anymore, that's for sure. but uh, certainly, as as a public institution, the monarchy should not be regarded as beyond reproach . and for broadcasters , reproach. and for broadcasters, i think to impose a self censorship is the worst form of censorship. >> i mean, what they should have doneis >> i mean, what they should have done is said, we're not going along with this. and if you don't like it, won't cover don't like it, we won't cover the but of course the coronation but of course somebody and somebody would have caved in and covered i think >> and so netflix also, i think if yourself, if you if you expose yourself, if you expose as an institution, if you expose as an institution, if you expose yourself to scrutiny and accountability, expose yourself to scrutiny and acccmoreyility, expose yourself to scrutiny and acccmore popular you you more popular and give you more authority. >> and don't suppose charles >> and i don't suppose charles himself agrees with this. he's generally quite man generally quite liberal man when it sort of issue. it comes to this sort of issue. it's flunkies around him it's the flunkies around him who are you are living in a sort of, you know, 15, 12 or something. yeah. >> to right. >> w- w— >> powdered wigs and knee breeches and also the public. >> is and listeners are >> my view is and listeners are not stupid, they know when the truth airbrushed truth is being airbrushed and mind say the mind you, it has to say the broadcasters were pretty pathetic during the period pathetic for during the period of the queens death as well. >> i think it didn't ask the

right questions. >> well, you go. listen, >> well, there you go. listen, neil, the right interviewer. >> right. they didn't. >> that's right. they didn't. yes >> break agreement there. >> break out of agreement there. it last. how your it won't last. how about your headune it won't last. how about your headline hero? >> my headline here is going to be richard professor of be richard dawkins, professor of pubuc be richard dawkins, professor of public understanding of science at university, was at oxford university, was interviewed in the sunday telegraph , published today. interviewed in the sunday telegraph , published today . and telegraph, published today. and he's very anti woke. he was inveighing against crackpot idea logs in academia who won't use the words male and female , but the words male and female, but must now call them sperm producing or egg producing individuals instead because us to call somebody a mother or a father emphasises heteronormative views. can there be anything worse than that? he said. i shall continue to use every one of the prohibited words . it's crazy that such words. it's crazy that such mania has taken hold and so we do need people in the academic world. >> amen to that. >> amen to that. >> where the cancel culture has been very prevalent to come out and start demolishing the fear.

>> i completely agree. for your back page zeros. i need a name and a sentence from each of you. please and a sentence from each of you. ple the because they played >> the bbc. because they played a by called they them by a a song by called they them by a band called dream nails, which used the term which used the line kick the kick turfs all day while also not playing rush and murphy absolutely shocking. >> michael, briefly, if you can, the north korean leader, kim jong un, for doing a deal with putin to sell weapons, to attack ukraine. well said. a true monster, neil, briefly, if you i'm going for keir starmer because he's announced that labour reduce labour wants to reduce the voting to voting age to 16. >> obvious of >> in an obvious act of gerrymandering , we need mature gerrymandering, we need mature voters like christine hamilton. >> and neil, thank you to michael neil and michael and emma and neil and you for your company. i'm back on friday at 9:00. headliners next the temperature is rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey with your gb news weather forecast

provided by the met office. hope you are able to enjoy the weekend. although the rather damp end for many of us is setting us up for what's to come dunng setting us up for what's to come during week , during the new working week, even into the end of sunday, some thunderstorms some heavy thunderstorms is possible england . torrential southeast england. torrential downpours. so just take care downpours. so you just take care if travelling there if you are travelling there overnight. elsewhere the rain will persistent will be turning more persistent and western and heavy as well for western scotland. north—west scotland. parts of north—west england, underneath the england, underneath all the cloud for many it cloud around for many of us, it will rather temperatures will be rather warm temperatures holding up around 12 to 17 c. so very mild start to monday morning and this band of rain in the west will gradually push its way over towards the east, scooping up some of the thunderstorms as well, clearing them off, out into the north sea, will most sea, rain will be most persistent parts persistent for parts of north—east but behind north—east scotland. but behind that there be that, there will be some brighter intervals developing. still with a scattering of rather sharp showers to watch out for, though temperatures ranging between 14 and 21 c as we head into the middle part of the week. another area of low pressure is hot on its heels and wanting to move its way in. so the blustery winds developing for chunk of wales,

for a good chunk of wales, england northern ireland, england and northern ireland, coastal gales in places and it will bringing this band of coastal gales in places and it will initially|ing this band of coastal gales in places and it will initially acrosss band of coastal gales in places and it will initially across northern rain initially across northern ireland dawn tuesday. but ireland at dawn on tuesday. but increasingly its way increasingly spreading its way eastwards . and generally eastwards. and generally northwest wales seeing northwest england, wales seeing the the rainfall far the brunt of the rainfall far south and far north, perhaps seeing some drier intervals in places, still catching some places, but still catching some of . further of that rainfall. further showers as we head throughout wednesday, thursday friday wednesday, thursday and friday as well by the temperatures rising , boxt as well by the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather

gb news. >> good evening. i'm ray addison. headliners is up next but first, our top stories this evening . the met police is set evening. the met police is set to speak to channel 4 and the sunday times after claims of rape and sexual assault were made against the comedian russell brand. now, a warning for you. those of you watching on television, the following footage contains flashing images

. the force says it's aware of media reports of a series of allegations and urged anyone who believes they've been a victim of sexual assault to get in touch. it comes as the bbc channel 4 and a production company behind shows hosted by brand , launched their own urgent brand, launched their own urgent reviews as a warning some people may find the following content distressing . distressing. >> he was like, sir, how many people have you had sex with? and i said, no one. i've never had sex with anyone . and he got had sex with anyone. and he got an erection straight away . and an erection straight away. and he was like, oh my god . he's he was like, oh my god. he's like, my baby, my baby. and pick me up and cradled me in his arms like a child and was stroking my hair. he's like, like hair. and he's like, you're like my dolly . russell engaged my little dolly. russell engaged in the behaviours of a groomer. looking back on it, i didn't even know what that was then or what that looked like . he would what that looked like. he would

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