asked this morning whether being asked this morning whether tv executives turned a blind eye to russell brand's alleged sexual crimes . sexual crimes. >> a transparency matters rhotacized into something criminal that i absolutely deny makes me question is there another agenda at play, particularly when we've seen coordinated media attacks before accused of rape and sexual assaults, allegations he strenuously denied. >> we're going to have all the latest. we writing brexit. >> sir keir starmer has finally come out and said it. he wants to renegotiate britain's brexit deal with the eu. what do you make of that .7 make of that? >> and last orders . the number >> and last orders. the number of pubs being closed across england and wales increased by 50% over the last four months . 50% over the last four months. thatis 50% over the last four months. that is such a sad story about

it. >> i can't bear it.— >> i can't bear it. >> all the more reason we should go to the pubs regularly. >> yeah. don't need many more reasons to, but let us know your thoughts this morning on all of our talking email us gb our talking points. email us gb views. gbnews.com. but first, views. at gbnews.com. but first, here the very latest news here is the very latest news with lisa hartle . good morning. with lisa hartle. good morning. >> it's 931. i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom . bbc channel 4 and the newsroom. bbc channel 4 and production company bannau uk have launched internal investigate actions following sexual assault allegations against comedian russell brand . against comedian russell brand. it comes after four women made separate allegations of sexual assault while brand was at the height of his popularity. assault while brand was at the height of his popularity . the 48 height of his popularity. the 48 year old has been accused of rape and sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013. russell brand denies all the allegations and says all of his relationships have been consent . while nhs have been consent. while nhs leaders say strikes by junior doctors and consultants this week will cause unprecedented disruption for patients, consult

agents in england will walk out for 48 hours from tomorrow with junior doctors joining them on wednesday. junior doctors will then continue their strike on thursday and friday. emergency care will continue, but thousands of appointments will be postponed . a man has been be postponed. a man has been charged with trespassing following an incident near buckingham palace. edward robalino was arrested after climbing the wall and entering the royal mews area near buckingham palace on saturday. the 25 year old has also been charged with attempted theft from a motor vehicle during the same incident. he'll appear at westminster magistrate court later . two pubs westminster magistrate court later. two pubs a day have disappeared in england and wales in the first half of the year. government figures show that 230 pubs closed in the three months to the end of june. this prompts warnings to the government that planned rises business rates planned rises in business rates could force further closures in the sector . you can get more could force further closures in the sector. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting

our website, gbnews.com. now back to . andrew and . bev back to. andrew and. bev >> good morning . it's 933. thank >> good morning. it's 933. thank you for joining >> good morning. it's 933. thank you forjoining us. so labour are calling on rishi sunak to block liz truss's resignation honours list. >> well, she was in for office 44 or was it 49 days? the shortest ever for a british prime minister. the shadow paymaster, general jonathan ashworth, has written to the prime minister to demand the list is blocked and joins us this morning from westminster. jonathan, you . jonathan, good morning to you. >> good morning, andrew. >> good morning, andrew. >> congratulations on your new job, your shadow paymaster, general , why you so worked general, why are you so worked up whether truss up about whether liz truss has a resignation honours list or. not? >> well, i think look, it's 12 months to the day that the conservative government took a set of quite disastrous decisions , decisions which decisions, decisions which essentially pushed our economy off a cliff , led to a run essentially pushed our economy off a cliff, led to a run on pension funds and now hard working families across the

country are paying more on their mortgage as a consequence, because mortgages have gone up. and in fact, i think 300 billion has been wiped off. the value of property. so mortgages are going up, people are paying more and house prices have lost their value as a consequence of those decisions. we're also paying more tax. if you go down to asda, sainsbury's and morrisons, you're paying more for your weekly shop. the energy bills have gone up and i think the idea that liz truss should be able to hand out these honours and gongs to her friends because of the decisions that she led for the 40 odd days that she was in charge. i think is quite offensive . and if rishi sunak offensive. and if rishi sunak had any backbone he would step in and block them. but of course, as we know and as you know, andrew. rishi sunak is in action, man. that's what they call him down here. i doubt he'll actually do it, but if he had any backbone, he would step in and block these honours, if recall. >> jonathan your recall. >> jonathan ashworth, your lot didn't exactly oppose much of liz mini—budget.

liz truss's mini—budget. do you oppose topic ? cutting the oppose the topic? cutting the top of tax from £0.45 to top rate of tax from £0.45 to £0.40? and one other thing, but basically you went along with most of it. >> well, i think i was coming on programmes including yours, maybe you not have been maybe you might not have been presenting might presenting at the time. it might have saying that have been eamonn saying that that have been that budget should have been reversed of the quite reversed because of the quite disastrous decisions that were taken it . and it led to, as i taken by it. and it led to, as i say, this run on pension funds that bank of england that forced the bank of england to and people are to intervene and people are paying to intervene and people are paying more on their mortgages as consequence. in the end as a consequence. and in the end , what have you got after 13 years of the conservatives now highest burden record, highest tax burden on record, people more tax, people people paying more tax, people paying people paying more tax, people paying in shops and paying more in the shops and paying paying more in the shops and paying more in the shops and paying more on their energy bills, better off after bills, are you better off after 13 years of the conservatives no, you're and that's no, you're not. and that's because decisions taken by because of decisions taken by liz truss and rishi sunak. >> jonathan, it seems it feels so and punitive to say so petty and punitive to say that liz truss shouldn't have her nominees for honours when no politician, no prime minister has ever made decisions which benefited everybody all the

time, and particularly when it comes to economics, our very own economics editor liam halligan has sat in this studio many times and says the reason that the economy tanked after liz truss and kwasi kwarteng is much more complex and much more nuanced than the decision that she made. it just feels like you're making political capital out of something and nothing now, i don't think when people are paying more, more , so much are paying more, more, so much more hundreds of pounds , more hundreds of pounds, thousands of pounds more on their mortgage, that is something or nothing . something or nothing. >> i think that's deadly serious. your viewers this morning in bolsover ashfield and mansfield, stoke bury and bolton hoo, who are opening that letter from their mortgage provider telling them that unless they renegotiate their deal, they're going to be paying an eye—watering amounts and then when they try and negotiate, renegotiate their deal, they're still paying more. still going to be paying more. they think that's they don't think that's something and that something or nothing. and that is of decisions taken in is because of decisions taken in that to pay fast and that budget to pay fast and loose with the public finances to irresponsible

to be cavalier and irresponsible with the public finances. a labour government would never do that under keir starmer and rachel reeves. we will always apply an iron discipline to the fiscal because know fiscal position because we know that's how to show that you're on the side of working families and working families expect it. >> there are economists who have sat this studio who will tell sat in this studio who will tell us we have these high us the reason we have these high interest rates now. and i don't disagree you, feel disagree with you, i feel dreadfully for everyone dreadfully sorry for everyone who's meet at who's barely making ends meet at the that's because the moment. but that's because we printed so much money during the the the last three years. the quantitative meant the quantitative easing meant the interest have had to come interest rates have had to come up and labour encouraging up and labour were encouraging that quantitative and that quantitative easing and encouraging all that encouraging handing out all that money people furlough money to people on furlough dunng money to people on furlough during that time. so it's a bit rich now to turn around and say this is all liz truss's fault, but and economists who will but and the economists who will also tell you that pursuing unfair funded tax cuts in the way in the reckless way that she did has led to the situation we're in. >> because essentially it precipitated a run on pension funds. precipitated a run on pension funds . and what that means is

funds. and what that means is there were question marks about whether britain could pay her debts. that is what happened last autumn when the conservatives took those decisions. it wasn't related to the quantitative easing because until that point there was stability in the markets. her decisions led to questions about whether britain could pay her debts. that's why pension funds were so in peril. and the bank of england had to take emergency action. that is what happened last year and now we're all paying last year and now we're all paying more in our mortgages as a consequence . so i'm afraid, a consequence. so i'm afraid, you know, you know, i've been around economic decisions as well and perfectly happy to come on and have that debate with your economists as well . but but your economists as well. but but i also know that your viewers, whether they're in stoke or mansfield, are paying more on their because of their mortgage because of conservative their mortgage because of conservativ ask you, jonathan, >> let me ask you, jonathan, about plan give the vote about your plan to give the vote to year olds england. so to 16 year olds in england. so you can't buy an alcoholic drink at of 16 or buy a packet at the age of 16 or buy a packet of cigarettes or buy view legally or buy a property. you can't apply to join the army till 17 and nine months.

till 17 years and nine months. but under keir starmer's desperate plan to get votes, 16 year olds are going to get the vote. what's the what's the logic behind this ? well i mean, logic behind this? well i mean, you're paying tax . you're paying tax. >> you can leave school and get a job. and i think if you're paying a job. and i think if you're paying tax, then you and you shouldn't work. then you should be hang on, let them buy cigarettes. >> you should be well, you can smoke. >> you can't. »- >> you can't. >> you can't. >> you can't. >> you can't buy them legally. you can't buy them legally. you can't go into a pub and buy a buy a drink. >> you can't you can't smoke. you can't. you can smoke, though, can't you? and you, you can get married in certain circumstances you get circumstances and you can get a job and pay tax. so if you can pay job and pay tax. so if you can pay tax, then you should be allowed . and i'm talking here allowed. and i'm talking here about direct taxation, not indirect taxation. before you say well, you know, 14 say to me, well, you know, 14 year olds can go asda. you year olds can go to asda. do you have any of sweets? do have any bucket of sweets? do you have any research about how many 16 year olds would more many 16 year olds would be more inclined than conservative? >> no . i don't have any research >> no. i don't have any research because i'm not we're not making

a decision based on whether they vote the labour party or not. >> you are loony party. >> you are loony party. >> course you are. of course >> of course you are. of course you are. you know that research shows that the majority of people vote tory are over people who vote tory are over 50. 16 year all 50. you think 16 year olds all embrace the keir starmer revolution? do . revolution? of course you do. >> i've not seen any of that research. >> you that's what you think though. you're, you're trying to send it to me. >> andrew. you send it to me. andrew yeah. >> so, okay, so what would what is the appeal? i'll tell you something. what is the appeal then to labour? what is it then? giving an adult responsibility to are effectively children still well. still well, well. >> you saying a 16 year old >> are you saying a 16 year old is a child? yeah. i've raised i've got who's bit older i've got one who's a bit older than and i've got one who's than that and i've got one who's under oh, believe me, they think they know everything at 16. >> nothing. they all >> they know nothing. they all think know everything. >> they know nothing. they all thiroh, know everything. >> they know nothing. they all thiroh, well, ow everything. >> they know nothing. they all thiroh, well, ow evimagine. i've >> oh, well, i can imagine. i've got year old who's already got a 12 year old who's already acting good luck. acting like she's good luck. i can tell you. i don't. i know. yeah. yeah. thanks. but it's a very adult responsibility. >> i mean, don't have a >> i mean, i don't have a particularly strong opinion on

it. think getting kids engaged it. i think getting kids engaged in is a good thing. in politics is a good thing. i want them to engaged, but want them to be engaged, but i just wonder what your motives are. yeah well, i think. >> i mean, actually, that's a really that's one of the most important want to important points. you want to engage people in politics. engage young people in politics. you want because need to be you want because they need to be you people should you know, young people should have opinion. they have an opinion. well, they should invited to have an should be invited to have an opinion on what's happening in their area, what they their local area, what they think in their interests think is in their best interests of the country. and i don't see i interested in i mean, i was interested in politics when i was 16, you might say. that's because might say. well, that's because i was a bit a bit, you know, a bit unusual. but think it's bit unusual. but i do think it's important young people are important that young people are exposed politics and exposed to politics and understand all the issues. >> i just you, was that >> can i just ask you, was that why you wanted to engage with young miliband young people that ed miliband embraced just embraced russell brand just before 2015 general election before the 2015 general election 7 before the 2015 general election ? that such ? in hindsight, was that such a clever ? clever move? >> well, these revelations and which are shocking, i don't doubt that they're shocking at all and need to be properly, properly investigated. and i do

think there's a there's a look. i mean, he's denying it. so i just want to step back from the particulars of that, you know, because there's obviously going to be processes . now, i do think to be processes. now, i do think there's an issue in society about violence against women and girls, is not as girls, which is not taken as seriously should. we know seriously as it should. we know convictions for sexual assault and prosecutions for sexual assault and are really poor assault and rape are really poor . it's why, for example, we've proposed specialist rape courts . we really need to get better as a society for dealing these with these issues around sexual assault rape, violence assault and rape, violence against women and girls. >> it was ed miliband mistaken then your leader at the time , then your leader at the time, labour have embraced labour leader, to have embraced him. >> though e though . well, i mean, >> well, though. well, i mean, those those revelations weren't well known. >> but you know, you know, we always have you know, we always enjoy a bit of back and forth. andrew between me and you, you know, lots of your prominent presenters, by the way, are putting out tweets, defended him at the moment. so are they mistaken ? mistaken? >> well, it's a debate we're

going to have just about to have that debate. >> actually, jonathan. so jonathan ashworth, always a pleasure to to you. that pleasure to talk to you. that is the paymaster general. the shadow paymaster general. if he if labour win the he becomes if labour win the next election, he'll be signing the checks literally we've got to what to talk about because what jonathan ashworth referring to talk about because what jonathiyourhworth referring to talk about because what jonathiyour tweet. referring to talk about because what jonathiyour tweet. beverley ring to was your tweet. beverley turner weekend turner at the weekend when you said about what's his name , said about what's his name, russell brand, you are being attacked . establishment media attacked. establishment media don't know what to do with the fact you have 6 million subscribers, 6.5 and generate autonomous knowing an original content. you are welcome my autonomous knowing an original con newsyou are welcome my autonomous knowing an original con news showe welcome my autonomous knowing an original con news show anytime. e my autonomous knowing an original con news show anytime. actually, gb news show anytime. actually, it's too. we are it's my show too. we are mainstream media, but we are not establishment media. >> we'd have had him, let's be honest. >> but we are not establishment media. there's a difference. keep going. this proves you're winning. you're a hero with a love heart emoji. bev, that is shameful. it's that is shameful. it's not. that is shameful. it's not. that is shameful. is shameful. shameful. that is shameful. you have tweet a have dismissed in one tweet a four year investigation by the sunday the times and sunday times, the times and channel 4 sunday times, the times and channel4 contemptuously sunday times, the times and channel 4 contemptuously the channel 4 as contemptuously the mainstream media year old mainstream media as 16 year old girl complained of being girl has complained of being groomed this man. two women groomed by this man. two women have they were and

have said they were raped and there are more and more cases coming tonight. and you say you're hero, you think? you're a hero, don't you think? before you say something, hero, hang on. don't think hang on. don't you think before you hero, should you say he's a hero, you should establish whether very establish whether these very serious allegations are true . serious allegations are true. well, what's the answer to that? >> before i tweeted that out, i had spoken to several sources close to brand, close to the times . times. >> had you spoken to those four women? >> i was confident that there is no smoking gun in this regard. >> right . i no smoking gun in this regard. >> right. i remain confident having watched the dispatches, if that is what they've got . if that is what they've got. after four years of a joint investigation by the times newspaper and the channel 4, those four flimsy allegations from women who choose to stay anonymous. so there is nobody that can counter their version of events. it's nobody who can say, well, hang on, i was there on that occasion whilst and this is the thing, do you have any sympathy these there sympathy for these women? there are sympathy for these women? >> any sympathy for these women? >> any sympathy for these women? >> every year there are 1.1 million who sexually

million people who are sexually assaulted country. assaulted in this country. newspapers yours care newspapers like yours don't care about that until there's a celebrity and then celebrity involved. and then suddenly over the front suddenly it's all over the front page of course, page of the paper. of course, everybody has the right to not be sexually offensive or sexually assaulted. anybody who has been sexually assaulted. my heart goes out to them. this happens every single day. >> not a scintilla of sympathy in this statement on twitter for these four women who i would argue none of them know each other . it's a very argue none of them know each other. it's a very big thing to go public. and you say this proves journalistic curiosity . proves journalistic curiosity. this proves your winning journalist , this proves your winning journalist, winning by allegedly raped and grooming 16 year old. you're a hero. love heart. >> let me tell you why he's winning. he's winning because he is a man who generates his own content under his own speed, under his own expense. he is a threat to all of these newspapers, the ones that you write for when you can. i love newspapers. don't get me wrong. i love this industry . so that's i love this industry. so that's what i'm saying in these

allegations these women. why allegations by these women. why now ? why now? now? why now? >> it's taken four years. it's taken four years for this. >> and that's all they've got. >> and that's all they've got. >> well , why >> and that's all they've got. >> well, why didn't they to >> and that's all they've got. >> well , why didn't they to the allegation? >> why haven't they gone to the police? >> well, the allegations, they're they're increasing in their number. and i guarantee to you, this is going to be a huge, huge investigation, a huge story. and i'm astonished that you leapt to his defence before you leapt to his defence before you can have read his content in the last three years. >> you have no idea what the dispatcher has no idea what the dispatcher has no idea what the dispatch had. >> you watch the dispatch and 5 million people had you watch the dispatches when put dispatches show when you put that on saturday that tweet out on saturday morning. but hadn't morning. no but you hadn't matter. no, it doesn't matter. there was hadn't even there was no you hadn't even seen programme seen the dispatches programme when put out. he is a hero. when you put out. he is a hero. so you hadn't even seen the dispatches programme before his. >> he would not have. what do you make of that? as a woman? >> as a woman, knowing that he had how difficult it is in this country, the mainstream media hadnt country, the mainstream media hadn't been singing for missing

the point. >> non—scientific kimchi. >> non—scientific kimchi. >> all you've done is attack three years. on you . three years. shame on you. >> he wouldn't have the >> then he wouldn't have the hero. shame on you for attacking these that hero. these you've created that hero. >> you for attacking these you've created that hero. >> women. you for attacking these you've created that hero. >> women. because ttacking these you've created that hero. >> women. because all:king these you've created that hero. >> women. because all these these women. because all these people, all these newspapers that one side of the that gave one side of the pandemic, he was now about covid again, beverley turner's other big hobby horse. she can't get through an hour without going on about this is not about covid. this is about serious allegations about a public figure who has been accused by four women of twice, two of rape, one of grooming a six year old, and you're banging about covid. >> he talks about you're obsessed. >> you're obsessed. >> you're obsessed. >> telling you, you're >> i'm telling you, you're obsessed. the reason is obsessed. the reason he is a hero to millions of people miss millions who will be watching to these four women because of these four women is because of his right his position on right on politics in the last three years. he used to be a left winger. he now gets written off as a right winger. that's why people like jonathan ashworth don't say because don't know what to say because when he was the left wing darling, everybody loved him. now interviewing now that he's interviewing people and

people like tucker carlson and interviewing desantis, the interviewing ron desantis, the press hates him. they've turned against him because him against him because of him talking about the issues. >> are because he talks on >> are you because he talks on the issues? stephanie, let's talk real issues talk about the real issues here. yeah serious allegations to two women alleging they were raped by him and other 16 year old saying she was groomed she saying she was groomed when she was by another was a schoolgirl by another woman. 16. woman. she was 16. >> she was 16. she was a schoolgirl. and he and her parents she parents knew that she was visiting his. >> haven't read it. >> you haven't read it. >> you haven't read it. >> was a schoolgirl, him of >> she was a schoolgirl, him of rape. she a schoolgirl. rape. she was a schoolgirl. >> he was 31. i've read it. >> and he was 31. i've read it. he 30. so she was he was 30. so she was a schoolgirl. she was 31. and he sent a bbc car to pick her up from school. yes stephanie, what's happening world of what's happening in the world of showbiz man? showbiz about this man? >> serious >> well, these are serious allegations, andrew and bev. but in all of these situations, the person who is these allegations are being made against is innocent proven. right. so innocent until proven. right. so we've many of these metoo we've had many of these metoo witch hunters, andrew, which which you all know about. we had one with clarke where the one with noel clarke where the guardian similar sting on guardian done a similar sting on him he's suing them for him and now he's suing them for £10 million because they couldn't bring the evidence to

say actually he guilty of say actually he was guilty of about 20 women who come in about 20 women who had come in their numbers to make these accusations. as russell accusations. as for russell brown, metropolitan brown, now the metropolitan police are they are aware police are saying they are aware of allegations, but now they of the allegations, but now they want people officially come want people to officially come to them and make this report. has anyone done that? it hasn't been done yet . no, but no, but been done yet. no, but no, but nobody nobody in america or the us has come forward on that flip side , the times and channel side, the times and channel 4 must have been confident of what these women were saying . for these women were saying. for them to work for years on this show to destroy russell brand and his career and his reputation . so there is no smoke reputation. so there is no smoke without fire. but what they've done now, they've lit this match, and now we're going to have a village of women who are going to be coming through and saying that i've had a situation with had with russell brand, and he had and and he had and he had and he had an opportunity respond the opportunity to respond to the sunday times questions whose lawyers were written to eight days before publication. >> reply. >> he didn't reply. >> he didn't reply. >> can you imagine? >> but andrew, can you imagine? they've been working this for they've been working on this for four that's all four years and that's all they've got. i have never seen

approach like this before. usually newspapers will do usually the newspapers will do it you'll see show it and then you'll see a show about later about the about five years later about the whole done whole scandal. they've done this to him in this way where to set him up in this way where he had time. he doesn't he hasn't had time. he doesn't even the victims are. even know who the victims are. >> exactly. okay, let's bring remained this has remained anonymous. this has happened andrew piss. if happened to you, andrew piss. if you this, you'll you applaud this, i hope you'll comment completely free of comment is completely free of skeletons because it could happen skeletons because it could hapstaggered reckless >> staggered at your reckless your tweet. it's your reckless tweet. it's reckless . reckless. >> norman baker well, that a >> norman baker well, that was a very interesting discussion, wasn't that wasn't it? i have to say that there's a whole lot of things wrong this. i mean, i don't wrong with this. i mean, i don't like russell brand. let me just say first of all, don't say that, first of all, i don't like style of comedy or like his style of comedy or anything else. >> have you watched any of his youtube last youtube content over the last three well, you three years? no well, then you don't know you know. don't know what you know. >> i've seen russell brand on television. look, i mean, he is. he is has been said he is. he is has been said innocent proven guilty. innocent until proven guilty. and decided is and the press have decided he is guilty. the papers guilty. he's all over the papers this morning. so even if he were proved to innocent, at some proved to be innocent, at some point, his reputation has been trashed. an issue. trashed. there's an issue. there's an issue about how that's there's there's an issue about how that' newspapers there's there's an issue about how that' newspapers tithis s also newspapers using this for their the sun

their own purposes. the sun front today, beep probe it front page today, beep probe it with particularly. this with the bbc particularly. this is a mostly in america, mostly with the bbc particularly. this is a nago.( in america, mostly with the bbc particularly. this is a nago.( inthe erica, mostly with the bbc particularly. this is a nago.( inthe press mostly with the bbc particularly. this is a nago.( inthe press are ;tly years ago. so the press are running own agenda here. running their own agenda here. >> they've highlighted he >> they've highlighted when he was at radio it was he was was at radio two, it was he was there, really there, but that's not really a bbc story. >> and the sun is making it into bbc story. look, mean, the bbc story. look, i mean, the whole is this is a very whole thing is this is a very serious set of allegations. when i a minister, i with i was a minister, i dealt with violence against as part violence against women as part of portfolio. and seen of my portfolio. and i've seen some stuff. i some horrendous stuff. when i was a minister. so, you know, this has be calmly and this has to be taken calmly and seriously. hope if there are seriously. i hope if there are people who've got allegations, it come forward to the it will come forward to the police points. police and make those points. yes. hope will be a yes. and i hope there will be a proper process and he'll be deau proper process and he'll be dealt the courts in dealt with through the courts in the way. that's what has the proper way. that's what has to by paper to happen, not trial by paper and we have a problem in this country already, though, with women come forward women unwilling to come forward when been sexually attacked. >> is only 16% of rape >> what is it only 16% of rape victims forward and only 2% victims come forward and only 2% go successful. it's appalling. >> it's appalling. and again, when a minister, we looked when i was a minister, we looked at issues to do with at some of the issues to do with the court processes what you the court processes and what you find women were subject find was that women were subject to appalling

to the most appalling cross—examination techniques in the the in the jury room. so the in the in the jury room. so in they to go in a sense, they had to go through whole thing yet through the whole thing yet again in a very painful way. you know, you wearing know, why are you wearing lipstick sort? are lipstick of that sort? why are you all this absolute nonsense? it's nothing with the it's nothing to do with the offence had to through all offence had to go through all that. had a situation that. we've had a situation which stopped which i think has been stopped now the person who is now where the person who is charged was charged with with the rape was actually able cross—examine actually able to cross—examine the witness themselves . mean the witness themselves. i mean that's terrible. so that's absolutely terrible. so the thing doesn't work the whole thing doesn't work very of course very well. and of course essentially you have a case essentially when you have a case like it's large like rape, then it's large extent, it's one person's words against another. extent, it's one person's words against another . and i do this against another. and i do this because he says and he isn't getting his say, he said, she getting his say, is he said, she said, and understand the said, and i do understand the trauma people go through if trauma that people go through if they've been sexually assaulted or no one ever sees or raped, but no one ever sees the side for the celebrity the flip side for the celebrity and how easy it is for them to be exploited . be exploited. >> and these cases, you know >> and in these cases, you know very much russell brand is a handsome man. he's been very honest about his sex addictions in past . and he says they in the past. and he says they were consensual. but the thing is, when you've got limelight, is, when you've got a limelight, someone limelight,

someone who's in the limelight, who's receiving all these who's now receiving all these allegations , means open allegations, it means he's open to exploited by people, which to be exploited by people, which necessarily might not be true. >> yeah, you'd have thought, though, they might done though, they might have done an exploiting sooner. exploiting a bit sooner. >> yes. >> e“ n e i mean, ea— e i mean, often these >> because, i mean, often these things mean, i'm expert, things i mean, i'm no expert, norman. know about it norman. you know more about it because work you do as because the work you do as minister, these things, they fester , they fester. fester, they do fester. >> which is >> another thing, which is surprising this, but surprising about this, but perhaps is the perhaps not surprising, is the fact allegedly have perhaps not surprising, is the fact about allegedly have perhaps not surprising, is the fact about this|llegedly have perhaps not surprising, is the fact about this forgedly have perhaps not surprising, is the fact about this for years. |ave perhaps not surprising, is the fact about this for years. so; known about this for years. so they say they knew about jimmy savile for years. they not? savile for years. did they not? yes. have to say what is yes. and you have to say what is the role the press to do? the role of the press to do? nothing for you you actually nothing for you if you actually knew jimmy savile again and knew jimmy savile was again and again, get the again, they tried to get the story just threatened to story and he just threatened to close down writs. close people down with writs. jimmy savile. jimmy savile i know days as transport know from my days as a transport minister a different role. british rail dropped him in the 19805 british rail dropped him in the 1980s because they'd heard about his hospital. what was doing the hospital. what was he doing in the morgue? do you want to know? >> i know that's i mean, you don't want to know. >> i think we need to stay on topic here because i think it's really important. we've got a man has turned his life

man who has turned his life around. he was a proper addict. right? he was a full on crack addict, addict, sex addict, heroin addict, sex addict, heroin addict, sex addict the last ten years or addict for the last ten years or so. he's been seven years clean. he's married . he lives he's married. he lives a virtuous he lives an absolute business life. he's married to a wonderful woman. they have two young children and another one on the way. he is an example of how you can recover from a time he was clearly a hideous, promiscuous. >> interestingly, you mentioned his wife falling treatment of women. his wife's sister , kirsty women. his wife's sister, kirsty gallacher tweeted in support of him. and then she did. and then she saw the programme , the she saw the programme, the dispatches programme, which trashed. >> that's true. >> that's not true. >> that's not true. >> took down the tweet. >> and took down the tweet. >> and took down the tweet. >> yes. you don't know that. no, she didn't. why did she take it down? you down? because of people like you saying cannot defend saying that you cannot defend this she told you that, did this man. she told you that, did she? saying she told you that? did she? >> kirsty gallacher tell >> man did kirsty gallacher tell you that gallagher is his sister in law? >> em- em.- e about that >> if you are clear about that after because she's after the because she's frightened out frightened of speaking out against only idiots like me against him. only idiots like me spoke against. there's spoke out against. there's a true word you used there, bev,

because you are behaving like an idiot. principles >> you are behaving an idiot. >> you have stand by my principles. >> absolutely kirsty gallacher innocent guilty. innocent until proven guilty. she tweet down when she took that tweet down when she dispatches show you she saw the dispatches show you put tweet out before put that tweet out before you even matter . the even seen it doesn't matter. the time is now. 954. we've got 45 seconds more. norman, quickly . seconds more. norman, quickly. very quickly, quickly, quickly. votes for 16 year olds. is that one for you? >> i think that's right. i mean, i agree that no taxation without representation was the old slogan in american slogan in the american revolution . and if people are revolution. and if people are paying revolution. and if people are paying should be paying taxes, you should be allowed only year allowed to vote only 16 year olds because of them olds are because most of them are school. are still at school. >> they're 18. >> so they're 18. >> so they're 18. >> well, a lot of people are older, paying taxes as older, aren't paying taxes as well. don't take the well. but you don't take the vote away from them. no, we should we should let vote. should we should let them vote. they think, in they did vote, i think, in scotland and the referendum up there. so there's principle there. so there's a principle being established already have you truss's you got 10s is liz truss's resignation on his list? that should not be ahead. but should not be going ahead. but i think prime minister, when should not be going ahead. but i thin leave drime minister, when should not be going ahead. but i thin leave office minister, when should not be going ahead. but i thinleave office should', when should not be going ahead. but i thinleave office should haveen should not be going ahead. but i

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it's 10 am. on monday, the 18th of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, a blind eye to brand questions being asked this morning whether tv executives look the other way over russell brown's alleged sexual crimes . brown's alleged sexual crimes. >> a transparency, metastasise into something criminal that i absolutely deny makes me question is there another agenda

at play, particularly when we've seen coordinated ? seen coordinated? >> he's accused of rape and sexual assault allegations. he has stress denied. we will have the latest at too young to vote. >> well, maybe not for long as labour plan to lower the voting age in england to just 16 . age in england to just 16. >> and a sad story last orders the number of pubs being closed across england and wales increased by 50% over the last quarter . quarter. >> terrible news woke nhs wasting our money. the health secretary said he was to going stop all this, but nhs england is going to spend £14 million creating three new departments called diversity and called equality diversity and inclusion. people and culture people and get it. it's all that woke stuff again . woke stuff again. >> get in touch with us this

morning. so let us know your thoughts. the inbox is already fairly lively. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email. but first of all in the newsroom , here's lisa hartle . , here's lisa hartle. >> good morning. it's just after 10:00. i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom . i'm bbc channel 4 and newsroom. i'm bbc channel 4 and production company bannau uk have launched internal investigations against comedian russell brand. the four women who have made the allegations say the incidents happened while brand was at the height of his popularity. the 48 year old has been accused of rape and sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013. russell brand denies all the allegations and says all of his relationships have been consensual. investigative journalist mark williams—thomas says more people could come forward. >> i've already had one person who's contacted me talk to me about brand . there will be about brand. there will be numerous other people who are contacting either the authorities or other individuals

. russell brand himself has been very clearly saying that there are things that have happened in the past. he puts it down to a promiscuous relationship that he's had . you know, there is he's had. you know, there is obviously an issue where consent is the question . is the question. >> conservative mp remee cates has spoken exclusively to gb news about her belief that britain's tax system is putting people off having children . she people off having children. she says she'll keep on pushing for more flexibility and options for families. >> and i asked whether they'd look at redistributing this money so that it was much more flexible. so each family could have a budget, decide how they want to spend that money, pay granny, time at home, granny, spend more time at home, go to work, but have more flexible childcare. but they're not policy not interested in that policy at the said, the moment. and as i said, i think this this policy is fairly fixed for this parliament. our country is really an outlier in the way we treat families. and one the one of the reasons one of the one of the reasons for our taxation system. for that is our taxation system. so we don't recognise families or the taxation or households in the taxation system. actually system. so it's actually disadvantageous children disadvantageous to have children work and pensions laura work and pensions minister laura trott government cares trott says the government cares

about but is the priority about family but is the priority is cutting inflation. >> i spoke earlier about how that was a total focus for everybody in government at the moment and that is the biggest tax cut that any family can get right now. now, in addition to this, have seen this, you would have seen earlier this year, we've done a lot on child care reform. so trying to make sure that it is easier to out if easier to go out to work if that's what you want to do. so those are the kind of two things that government is focussed that the government is focussed on at the moment, but respect on at the moment, but i respect that miriam's going to be pushing, know, further pushing, you know, further things wants us to do. things that she wants us to do. a man has been charged with trespassing following an incident near buckingham palace. >> arrested >> edward rivellino was arrested after a wall entering after climbing a wall entering the royal mews near the the royal mews area near the palace saturday. the 25 year palace on saturday. the 25 year old has also been charged with attempted theft from a motor vehicle during the same incident . he will appear at westminster magistrates court later. the labour leader says he would seek a much closer trading relationship with the eu if his party wins the next election . party wins the next election. sir keir starmer says it's

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warnings with flooding expected after midnight . this is gb news after midnight. this is gb news across the uk on tv , on your across the uk on tv, on your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to andrew and . bev andrew and. bev >> well, it's a big story. it's an international story, of course, all around the world. this is making waves. russell brand accused of rape by two different women. sexual assault and emotional abuse. >> emotional abuse. he'd be honest about the fact that he was emotionally abusive. he wrote three about the fact wrote three books about the fact that he was emotionally abused, abusive. but anyway, four women have assaults. have alleged sexual assaults. between 2006 and 2013 been made as of an investigation by as part of an investigation by the sunday times, times and the sunday times, the times and channel four's dispatches programme. brand has, of course, denied . denied the allegations. >> litany of >> it's this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that i absolutely refute . these allegations refute. these allegations pertain to the time when i was

working in the mainstream, when i was in the newspapers all the time, when i was in the movies. and as i've written about extensively in my books, i was very, very promiscuous. now, dunng very, very promiscuous. now, during that time of promiscuity, very, very promiscuous. now, duri relationships of promiscuity, very, very promiscuous. now, durirelationships if promiscuity, very, very promiscuous. now, durirelationships if prowererity, the relationships i had were absolutely consensual. so absolutely always consensual. so to discuss the impact of these allegations, his behavioural and media psychologist joe hemmings. >> joe, good morning . thank you >> joe, good morning. thank you for joining us. and let me tell forjoining us. and let me tell you, joe, when we have you, there you are. let me tell you, one of the things i find so troubling, as russell brand said there, he's been very, very honest. he said to transparent about how promiscuous he was and how treated in about how promiscuous he was and hov1past treated in about how promiscuous he was and hov1past and treated in about how promiscuous he was and hov1past and what ted in about how promiscuous he was and hov1past and what these in the past and what these newspapers have done now for me is a classic abuse technique. they've taken his honesty. they've taken his honesty. they've weaponized it, and they've it against him to they've used it against him to go find these women and just go and find these women and just just talk about that for a second, if you would. and i want to say again, of course, i do not condone any sort of sexual offences against women. it seems ridiculous. have clarify ridiculous. i have to clarify that. but i want to. joe, go.

>> all right. i'm not convinced they have taken it and weaponized it against them. yes, he been very honest he has always been very honest about promiscuity , he and he has always been very honest abosex promiscuity , he and he has always been very honest abosex life.'omiscuity , he and he has always been very honest abosex life. imiscuity , he and he has always been very honest abosex life. i do cuity , he and he has always been very honest abosex life. i do feel , he and his sex life. i do feel concerned . look, he's a very concerned. look, he's a very entitled man . he behaves in that entitled man. he behaves in that way. he's narcissistic. that entitlement has been fed. people have allowed him to get away with this. and so now when he says every relationship was consensual, as part of me , he's consensual, as part of me, he's sort of his mind is almost in a parallel universe. there's a part of me that feels he doesn't actually know the difference or recognise the difference between consensual and non consensual sex. so don't feel a story as being manufactured . but i do being manufactured. but i do feel people have come out of the woodwork and said who have been afraid to do so before more. and i literally do not think he's got a grasp on crossing boundanes got a grasp on crossing boundaries that he seems to have most definitely or at least alleged to have crossed been. >> bev takes a different view to me. joe. she's effectively says it's thin gruel that the papers

and channel 4 have offered up and channel 4 have offered up and that the women there's very little evidence but the serious charges of rape it's very how explain how difficult it is for a woman to come forward ever to talk about the fact she was sexual assaulted or raped, particularly by somebody be potentially as famous as russell brand . brand. >> look, it's incredibly difficult . and his his woman of difficult. and his his woman of choice . very often girls were choice. very often girls were very young, wanted to get on in their careers, felt they couldn't say no. then they look back on it and think, you know, a lot of these accusations have been people who have willingly slept with him and then decided afterwards , you know, no, the afterwards, you know, no, the next time he wanted something from me that i didn't want to give. so they're very young. they're very impressionable. they're very impressionable. they're very impressionable. they're very vulnerable. and there's because of there's a temptation, because of his because his fame his fame and because his fame and he demanded and whatever ever he demanded was indulged to not speak up. and it's not until other people,

till one person says something that it gives others the courage to do it . look, i that it gives others the courage to do it. look, i think if they'd gone to the police, they probably felt they couldn't at the time because of who he was and they insignificant and they were insignificant and wouldn't been listened to. >> none of them none of them have said that they would have felt. know that , joe. felt. we don't know that, joe. we know. that's why . we don't know. that's why. >> no, but we know in this country, just we're talking country, joe, just we're talking to former to norman baker, a former minister, this, only 16% minister, about this, only 16% of women who are raped or say they were raped go to the police . and only 2% of those we ever see successful prosecution. so it's surprising if women it's not surprising if women don't go to the police . don't go to the police. absolutely not surprising at all. >> and when you put factor in somebody who's very famous and the person is alleging this now was very , very young, you've got was very, very young, you've got really a kind of perfect for storm not going to the police, for not talking about it, for not sharing it. perhaps only amongst their friends, but, you know, it it carries on with you.

it stays with you . it triggers it stays with you. it triggers memories. you know, now people feel they can come out of the woodwork. it's been the same for many people. harvey many famous people. harvey weinstein, for instance. those allegations didn't come out until a long time later. i until quite a long time later. i don't you can use fact don't think you can use the fact that it happened some time ago as sort of justification. as any sort of justification. the way he behaved. >> joe, think what's also very >> joe, i think what's also very difficult a false rape difficult is a false rape allegation. i can't think of anything worse if you're a man to be falsely accused of raping somebody . it's the worst thing somebody. it's the worst thing you can say about a man. and to do that on such a public stage just talk about the psychology of what that might be like, not just for russell brand, but for other men who've been accused of something they do . something they didn't do. >> okay? i mean, obviously, if someone is falsely accusing rape, is very distressing rape, that is very distressing for the person to whom they are accusing. however in this particular instance, or let's say instances like it, it felt to me that one person came forward and that made the

investigation. let's look for other people who also came forward . look, it's very hard. forward. look, it's very hard. i mean , many women, particularly mean, many women, particularly in this situation, would not cry false rape . they may do in false rape. they may do in a domestic situation , but with domestic situation, but with a famous star, unless wanted to gain something out of it. i don't think that most of these women are still anonymous. they don't what have they got to gain by saying that about somebody? at this point in time? i just can't imagine why they would bother to make a false allegation on what's what do you i mean, more . the sunday times i mean, more. the sunday times has said now more women have already come forward. >> and when i started to read this at the weekend, i thought this at the weekend, i thought this is exactly what's going to happen. people come happen. more people will come out. one of the out. that is one of the arguments in favour of naming people who are a part a sex people who are a part of a sex investigation. potential people who are a part of a sex investigcome potential people who are a part of a sex investigcome forward. )tential people who are a part of a sex investigcome forward. it'stial people who are a part of a sex investigcome forward. it's also victims come forward. it's also a criticism, of course, that particularly a man in a sexual case until case shouldn't be named until he's but others are he's charged. but others are coming and i suspect coming forward. and i suspect more . will

more. will >> oh, i'm absolutely sure this is the tip of the iceberg. i mean, the very tip in this case. and i don't want it to turn into a witch hunt for anybody, but i think you've got to bear in mind the anonymity of these people , the anonymity of these people, the anonymity of these people, the fact they have nothing to gain from saying it can't see anybody jumping saying, anybody jumping on this saying, oh, it happened oh, yeah, you know, it happened to me as well. if it didn't happen, we the thing is, we don't what they have to don't know what they have to gain by it. gain by saying it. >> these women came >> none of these women came forward. sought them forward. journalists sought them out over four years. it was low hanging fruit. let's go after the sex addict. i bet we can find people who've got stuff on him. you're not wrong. but whether it is actually illegal or whether it is just icky, gross , immoral is a completely gross, immoral is a completely different story. and at the moment , he different story. and at the moment, he has been not been arrested . he's been charged with arrested. he's been charged with nothing. he's been found guilty of nothing. and he's a family man who's on the front page of all these papers today. and i think really important that think it's really important that we sense of perspective we keep a sense of perspective about what this is going to do to this man's life and his

children's lives when he's been a clean living man for ten years anyway , joe, we want to see what anyway, joe, we want to see what would you suggest then? go on, joe. all right. no, no, no. go on. go on. >> no, i'm just wondering if you would suggest been better if he hadnt. would suggest been better if he hadn't . if would suggest been better if he hadn't. if this hadn't have happened that it should have. these women have just not these women should have just not said a word . said a word. >> look, in an ideal world, what you would want is whenever a woman is attacked by a man, she goes immediately to the authorities, is that authorities, is on that occasion, and she is looked after. she doesn't always after. and she doesn't always happen. always happen. it doesn't always happen. it doesn't always happen. it doesn't always happen. i that he does. it happen. i agree that he does. it doesn't always happen. but if ten, 15 years later, these women have dug by journalists have been dug out by journalists , i question whether they would have taken that to the to the police . anyway, there's such police. anyway, there's such a passage of time now. >> can't clear his name, but >> we can't clear his name, but we that one of them, the we know that one of them, the one who 16, says she was one who was 16, who says she was groomed as a schoolgirl, she went to his agents back in 2020. she to discuss and the she went to discuss it and the agents back with a lawyer's agents came back with a lawyer's

letter saying, you're making it up. >> oh, there's doubt. there's >> oh, there's no doubt. there's no that period of no doubt that that period of time his behaviour, poor behaviour towards women was facilitated because he was famous, no doubt about it. it still happens today. if you're a famous man on the telly, you can get away with a huge amount that you wouldn't if you weren't. sadly it does, absolutely. >> but it doesn't mean that people shouldn't have that right to at any point and to come back at any point and say happened, and for say this happened, and it's for the now. the courts to decide now. >> and doesn't mean that he >> and it doesn't mean that he is guilty anyway. joe hemmings, lovely. >> doesn't mean he's guilty from turkey. nice to you, andrew. turkey. nice to see you, andrew. >> talk to joe. >> lovely to talk to you, joe. >> lovely to talk to you, joe. >> let's see what >> all right. let's see what you've been saying. very divided device this is device. obviously, this is neutral. beverly it wasn't me. you both made my rainy monday morning. i love it when people can have a good debate. somebody did message to say, you look like an old married couple. you too? like an old married couple. you too are old and then carolyn >> are the old and then carolyn david says stop. >> stop arguing. want >> just stop arguing. we want you to calm down. yeah go do you to calm down. yeah go on. do you to calm down. yeah go on. do you want read some in favour you want to read some in favour of. >> you know, i read a couple in favour of you and you can read a

couple in favour of mine. okay. cara you're 100% right, cara says you're 100% right, beverly. thereafter everyone who don't agree with him. people are starting to and they starting to wake up and they don't on you, don't like it. good on you, beverly, for speaking up. and karen says, hi andrew. i agree with trial by media, with bev on this trial by media, i help but think this is i can't help but think this is a set up, given how is on set up, given how vocal he is on politics. agree with politics. i don't agree with media women media trial. these women should have to the have gone straight to the police. of course, we've discussed they don't why discussed why they don't and why they know in they often don't. and we know in this it's a real problem. >> and says can you >> and alan says how can you call him a hero? i understand that it. and that concern. i get it. and that's why he's so cross with me. disgusted that you me. i'm disgusted that you can put heroes me. i'm disgusted that you can put fought heroes me. i'm disgusted that you can put fought worldieroes who fought in two world wars, the other the falklands and many other conflicts. said, my hero. and conflicts. i said, my hero. and there's his there's a difference for his position that he has been so anti establishment and i really admire what he's done professionally. he already professionally. he was already cancelled by the mainstream media everything media because of everything that he and he was saying on american and british pandemic. he was saying on american and briti he's pandemic. he was saying on american and briti he's away pandemic. he was saying on american and briti he's away and|demic. he was saying on american and briti he's away and he'sic. and he's gone away and he's built own empire. has built his own empire. he has a lovely life working from home with family. he's a he's with his family. he's a he's a what i see now as a good man. with his family. he's a he's a whécomedyiow as a good man. with his family. he's a he's a whécomedy ,»w as a good man. with his family. he's a he's a whécomedy , though, jood man. with his family. he's a he's a whécomedy , though, joc revolting i >>i >> i mean, i've seen some of his so—called gags talking about what he does with part of his

anatomy and women are just horrible. >> 20 years ago, i thought he was wally. i thought was an absolute wally. i thought he prat until i think he was a prat until i think three years ago . one more. just three years ago. one more. just one more you to just look at what he says. look at his content. look at the people he interviews podcast. interviews on his podcast. recently he said a right wing commentator, owens, he's commentator, candace owens, he's spoken to ron desantis in america. he's interviewed the dalai lama. everyone is desperate to get on his podcast. he's a very successful media generator. >> i think you should go on it. >> i think you should go on it. >> i'm not famous enough. i'm not the dalai lama. >> he be inviting me. >> he won't be inviting me. >> he won't be inviting me. >> you know what? >> well, you know what? the thing would because thing is, he would because he does on of people who does have on lots of people who disagree he's got disagree with him. he's got incredible intellectual curiosity . curiosity. >> i wonder if ed miliband, who was leader at the time, was labour leader at the time, is now a embarrassed i >> -- >> well, -_ >> well, he shouldn't because there at that there was no allegations at that point. backfired there was no allegations at that point. because backfired there was no allegations at that point. because just�*ackfired there was no allegations at that point. because just looked! anyway because it just looked silly . silly. >> $- 9 just was he just >> he was he just was he just appeared look, i'm trying to appeared to look, i'm trying to be achingly cool and politicians trying achingly cool. trying to be achingly cool. neven trying to be achingly cool. never, look, tony never, never a good look, tony has said i agree with andrew against the disgraceful comments

from bev on the russell brand tweet. >> thank you. right >> thank you. right >> more, lots views >> so lots more, lots more views , lots views we're , lots more views coming. we're going talking later about, going to be talking later about, of we? we're going to be talking later about, of to we? we're going to be talking later about, of to be we? we're going to be talking later about, of to be talking? we're going to be talking later about, of to be talking aboute going to be talking later about, of to be talking about what going to be talking about what are we talking 18 year olds? we're voting voting 16 in the general election. you've got teenagers. you teenagers. do you think do you think should have the vote think they should have the vote at i'd like to be more >> i'd like them to be more politically would politically engaged. it would be quite do quite interesting. but i do think at think if you let them vote at 16, you're have to let 16, you're going to have to let them buy a packet of at 16. >> go into pub. yeah, of >> go into a pub. yeah, of course is. and you can't course it is. and you can't view, can on keir view, but you can vote on keir starmer. are doing starmer. but what are they doing it? it's gimmick it? it's a stunt. it's a gimmick . and in scotland when they did it, was going to . and in scotland when they did it, lots was going to . and in scotland when they did it, lots of was going to . and in scotland when they did it, lots of them was going to . and in scotland when they did it, lots of them voting going to . and in scotland when they did it, lots of them voting snpg to be lots of them voting snp because the parents told them of course they were the course they vote were the opposite to what parents say. >> the thing m say. >> the thing do think >> this is the thing i do think they mistaken who 16 they are mistaken about who 16 year vote for. now year olds would vote for. now mum olds mum and dad say 18 year olds vote labour. >> to vote liberal >> they're going to vote liberal or tory. or mum dad say or tory. or if mum and dad say vote they're other or tory. or if mum and dad say vote round. they're other way round. >> 16 way round. » «a >> these 16 and 17 year olds, those are the people watching russell . those russell brand on youtube. those are actually are the people who actually might you . might politically surprise you. this is britain's news channel,

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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 9.30 on . sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news. >> it's 1024 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner, the labour has confirmed plans to cut the voting age from 18 to 16. >> in general elections. >> in general elections. >> conservative party chairman greg hands criticised this as a move which he says is a desperate attempt to manipulate the electorate, raising concerns about the potential advantage it may offer labour. >> we're joined now by milton >> so we're joined now by milton danchuk, a youth cabinet member. milton if i'm not mistaken, you're going to be celebrating your 16th birthday next year. you're going to be celebrating your 16th birthday next year . so your 16th birthday next year. so

are excited that might are you excited that you might soon the to vote ? soon have the right to vote? >> no, i disagree with labour's plan . to actually lower the plan. to actually lower the voting age to 16. like andrew said previously, it's a bit gimmicky . i said previously, it's a bit gimmicky. i think it's a bit of a desperate attempt to stay in power and i don't think i think it's a bit hypocritical with it. earlier this year he said that he doesn't believe 16 year olds are able to are old enough to decide what gender they are . but decide what gender they are. but he thinks they're old enough to vote he needs to keep vote. so he needs to keep consistent about i mean, do you think you should be able to be able to join? >> i mean, you couldn't join the army until you can't apply to your 17 years and nine months, which means you're 18. do you which means you're18. do you think, milton, there should be things you can do to at 16.517, things you can do to at 16.5 17, which you can't do now, albeit perhaps not having the right to vote? um you mentioned the army. >> i'm pretty sure you can join

the army at 16. you just not on the army at 16. you just not on the front lines or facing combat . yeah. um in regards to things you can do at 16 that you can't, you can do at 16 that you can't, you know, apart from voting, um , “0, you know, apart from voting, um , no, i can't think of anything. i think it's key. we keep it consistent . obviously not buying consistent. obviously not buying tobacco . well, obviously not tobacco. well, obviously not being able to buy tobacco until you're 18, not able to buy alcohol to 18 and not being able to vote to 18. i think changing voting to 16 where keeping smoking at 18 and buying alcohol 18. it'sjust smoking at 18 and buying alcohol 18. it's just not consistent. and um , i think look, look at you. >> look, look at you. you're fabulous . yes, you're fabulous. yes, you're intelligent, you're articulate, you're politically motivated. you're politically motivated. you and your mates should should have a vote, shouldn't you? why would you want to deprive yourself of that massive part of our democracy . our democracy. >> i don't think it's necessarily not being , you know, necessarily not being, you know, you know, smart enough and not being well, you're not being,

you know, not being, um . what? you know, not being, um. what? i'm looking for you. you're not being , um, i'm looking for you. you're not being, um, like, prepared. you're not being smart enough and not being . yeah. prepared and not being. yeah. prepared enough. and not being. yeah. prepared enough . i think it's just a case enough. i think it's just a case of keeping it consistent. and if it's not broken, why change it now ? now? >> milton, i know your dad quite well. of course. and. yeah, and he was . he was well. of course. and. yeah, and he was. he was a very illustrious member of parliament for many years. have talked for many years. have you talked to about whether 16 is to him about whether 16 is a good age or a age be good age or a bad age to be voting general elections as well? >> yeah . before coming on, he >> yeah. before coming on, he did mention i spoke to about it because his opinion was and he said that he believes 16 year olds should have the ability to vote . um because you know, they vote. um because you know, they should be more involved in politics. but i think i disagree if that's simon danchuk, of course, your father. >> but if, if you were to take a straw poll of how your classmates might vote milton or the people in your year at 16,

what year are you in? you mean year 11 ? year 11? >> yeah, yeah, you're in year 11. >> so you've got gcses this yeah >> so you've got gcses this year. what do you think your peers would vote if there was an election now ? election now? >> yeah. um if there was election now, they'd all vote laboun election now, they'd all vote labour. um really? why? because you know, it's. well i don't think it's necessarily because they support labour or they like keir starmer. i think it's a matter of their voting for party, not person . and, um, it's party, not person. and, um, it's obviously, it's an awful, it's a very labour area and um, you know , all the parents are quite know, all the parents are quite labour so i think they just go, what the parents say quite frankly, and if your parents told you, okay, milton, there's an election, we want you to vote x would you not go and say, fine mum and dad and then in the ballot box, go and vote? >> why ? >> why? >> why? >> well, mean . say if they >> well, mean. say if they wanted me to vote labour but obviously want to vote conservative, i wouldn't just

say, okay, yeah, i'll vote laboun pd say, okay, yeah, i'll vote labour. i'd tell them no, i want to vote conservative and go do that. >> do think you'd also have >> do you think you'd also have a of people voting for the a lot of people voting for the greens ? no. greens? no. >> oh really ? >> oh really? >> oh really? >> i think a lot of the youth would . would. >> and who's the most popular politician in your class? milton >> oh, that's a good question. uh, unfortunately , i'd have to uh, unfortunately, i'd have to say. angela rayner really? >> labour's deputy leader ? >> labour's deputy leader? >> labour's deputy leader? >> yeah, extremely popular. >> yeah, extremely popular. >> is she? can you work out why or why she's on their radar? does she have a big tiktok presence or something? because that's generally where a lot of your generation will their your generation will get their politics from. >> uh , not as far as i know. >> uh, not as far as i know. i think , because she, you know, think, because she, you know, plays into the whole i'm a working class woman and, you know, i grew up on a council estate. people they estate. people think they connect to that. and, um, they , connect to that. and, um, they, they, they see her as one of them or, you know , they see her them or, you know, they see her as someone, you know, of the same sort . they could talk to same sort. they could talk to someone who knows what it's

like. it's relatable . like. it's relatable. >> and what about you, milton? are you going to follow in dad's footsteps and consider a career in politics later on? >> definitely . i'm already a >> definitely. i'm already a member of the conservative party . yeah . oh, are you? yeah >> so council first be a councillor first. >> well, well , if probably. >> well, well, if probably. i mean, unless i could become an mp first, right? oh he's aiming higher than you've got expectations for him. >> mr pierce, the youngest mp is 25. he won an a by—election a few weeks ago. so you're 16. in few weeks ago. so you're16. in nine years time, it could be you, milton. >> well, yeah, exactly . >> well, yeah, exactly. >> well, yeah, exactly. >> we'll be we'll still be >> we'll be and we'll still be around to talk to you and we'd be delighted about it too. so best of luck with political best of luck with your political ambitions. thank you. ambitions. milton thank you. milton took a youth cabinet member from rochdale. oh, amazing , right? amazing, right? >> moving on this morning . still >> moving on this morning. still to come, we've got sir keir starmer. he's had another u—turn. funny this time it's on immigration. but first of all, here's the news with lisa hartle

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from three on . gb news it's 1037 from three on. gb news it's1037 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. >> bev turner so back to russell brand warn you that you brand and we warn you that you might find some of the content distressing when we show you a clip channel clip from channel four's dispatches me and got me dispatches grabbed me and got me on the bed. >> was clothed he >> i was fully clothed and he was naked at this point i was like, oh my god, he raped me . like, oh my god, he raped me. >> i was crying . and he said,

>> i was crying. and he said, oh, i only want to see your mascara run. anyway i phoned and somebody asked what it was regarding and i said, that's regarding and i said, that's regarding russell brand being a sex offender . joined in the sex offender. joined in the studio by male columnist sarah vine and political commentator bushra sheikh. >> sarah, you wrote a very good piece in the mail on sunday. thank you. as ever. saying while these allegations are shocking and of course they are rape and all the rest of it, he's entitled to a fair trial. >> yes, he is definitely . i >> yes, he is definitely. i mean, and also, i think that we have to very careful about have to be very careful about conducting these sorts of trials in public with with the media, with the bias that naturally exists. what i would say, though , is i mean, i have to say, i found the documentary quite sort of touching and very distressing. but i have to say that, you know, russell brand was a man who was openly what i would term a toerag. do you know

what i mean? he never sort of went around pretending to be you know, mother theresa. i wouldn't have got in a taxi with him. i wouldn't have got in a lift with him. i wouldn't have been in the same him and same room with him and i certainly have driven certainly wouldn't have driven my virgin daughter certainly wouldn't have driven my an virgin daughter certainly wouldn't have driven my an eating virgin daughter certainly wouldn't have driven my an eating disorderaughter certainly wouldn't have driven my an eating disorder around with an eating disorder around to so she could to his house so that she could have him. i have say have sex with him. i have to say that i think this is a broader discussion here about the kind of culture that allows somebody like to become as lionised like that to become as lionised and feted and as worshipped and as feted and as worshipped as he was. don't forget . ed miliband. >> i do. we talked about it was he embraced him seeing up to him. >> everybody he edited an edition of the new statesman. there's a very piece today, there's a very good piece today, actually, in the daily mail about all the lefties who were cosying because he was about all the lefties who were coscool because he was about all the lefties who were coscool and because he was about all the lefties who were coscool and trendybecause he was about all the lefties who were coscool and trendy and use he was so cool and trendy and fantastic. cool fantastic. he wasn't cool and trendy fantastic. never trendy and fantastic. i never thought he was cool and trendy, fantastic. thought a fantastic. i thought he was a horrible man who who said awful things. he did that things. i mean, he did that whole andrew sachs whole thing with andrew sachs ringing i've ringing him up and saying, i've slept granddaughter , slept with your granddaughter, who and andrew who was very young, and andrew sachs nearly 80. exactly. sachs was nearly 80. exactly. i mean, i think that we also have

we all kind of have questions to answer as a culture about why someone like that was was allowed such a free rein. and, you know, it doesn't surprise me that has been accused of that he has been accused of these things. it's like, you know, du bas relief themselves in the woods, but it doesn't mean to say that you know, if he if he is guilty of rape, if he is guilty of those things, he shouldn't be held accountable. of be of course he should be held accountable think accountable. but i think that there is a way of doing this. it has to be done in a calm objective way. and this today, what we're seeing in the papers, what we're seeing in the papers, what we're seeing on the news is not calm and objective. and that's that's the problem. because the thing is , if we because the thing is, if we don't it that way , it don't do it that way, it diminishes all of the victims. if they are victims and it diminishes all sorts of victims of sexual assault, we have to, as society, very as a society, be very responsible how we deal responsible about how we deal with this. >> do you think also , though, >> do you think also, though, it's the context in it's about how the context in which you see russell brand. >> oh , absolutely. >> oh, absolutely. >> oh, absolutely. >> are, think >> because there are, i think you divide into two you can divide it into two people. those who remember the

old brand. seen old russell brand. we've seen the i thought guy old russell brand. we've seen the an ithought guy old russell brand. we've seen the an idiot.iought guy old russell brand. we've seen the an idiot. hejht guy old russell brand. we've seen the an idiot. he was guy old russell brand. we've seen the an idiot. he was clearly was an idiot. he was clearly extremely hasn't extremely promiscuous. he hasn't denied what i see as denied that. and what i see as the russell brand, which is the new russell brand, which is somebody that speaks the somebody that speaks for the disenfranchised and the marginalised who want to marginalised people who want to shine a light in the dark corners of global corruption . corners of global corruption. will you just talk a little bit about. >> well, totally. i mean, he has changed. he's turned his life around for better. know around for the better. we know that is that now. what he does is he expose his mainstream a expose his mainstream media a lot. remember that gb lot. we have to remember that gb news a channel that is news is also a channel that is also very thing that also doing the very thing that people wanted. the main stream agenda always takes a plane. now, this is a man that was platformed like sarah says , with platformed like sarah says, with all all of his antics the way that he was platform champion put him all over the place. and they're the same people that are tearing him down at the very moment that he's become popular tearing him down at the very mommore1at he's become popular tearing him down at the very mom more thanz's become popular tearing him down at the very mommore than 6 become popular tearing him down at the very mommore than 6 million; popular tearing him down at the very mommore than 6 million peoplear with more than 6 million people are because he exposes the truth. i'm just going to use truth. now i'm just going to use the terminology this is what i would deem another matrix attack. it happens. so in one breath, i understand that there

are allegations against him, but he is allowed to have due course and mainstream media does this all the time. they make the pubuc all the time. they make the public fight amongst each other and that has an impact on that individual . and that has an impact on that individual. so now people are going to deem him guilty . going to deem him guilty. >> well, let's to say i think i think just because you have a lot of followers twitter does lot of followers on twitter does not that you are not mean to say that you are some of truth guru. some kind of truth guru. >> that media is >> we know that social media is an there are an insane place and there are lots strange people. and lots of very strange people. and what about this what i would say about this investigation nation is that it has forensic has taken years of very forensic investigations by, you know, a very responsible news outlet to come to, you know, to gather all the information and all the evidence to put these this case. you know, russell brand goes on the internet and says crazy things think, oh, things and people think, oh, that's interesting. no conspiracy theorists . conspiracy theorists. >> how much have you watched like how of like genuinely how much of his content? like genuinely how much of his conwell, i'm not one of his >> well, i'm not one of his followers. i'm not one of his followers, i don't followers, but i'm not i don't believe conspiracy believe his anti—vax conspiracy theories. of theories. i don't believe any of that theories. i don't believe any of tha sarah, watched it . >> sarah, until i watched it. but it's like saying i can't have an opinion on the

dispatches unless i've watched the documentary saying what you're is that you're basically saying is that because the because he's popular on the internet, internet , internet, on the internet, what's wrong with the internet is how most young people watch consume media. >> the thing is, is there is no there are no regulations online. anyone can pretty much say anything. they more regulated onune anything. they more regulated online is more regulated. >> he has he's had to go online because his truth is youtube regulated by ofcom. >> now, i don't know. >> now, i don't know. >> it's regulated by youtube and they have stringent. he's they have very stringent. he's had youtube to to had to leave youtube to go to rumble. had to leave youtube to go to ruryoutube a company that >> youtube is a company that exists make money. of course, exists to make money. of course, they're not going to regulate somebody who's got 6.5 million followers. that's how followers. i think that's how many. not. it's not these many. it's not. it's not these it's not government . there are it's not government. there are no standards. you can say anything you want. i'm not saying not saying that. people who watch him. are you know, aren't right to watch him. i'm not saying that what he says is wrong. i'm just saying that it's you know, you can't you can't has described him a tweet at has described him in a tweet at the hero because the weekend is his hero because i acutely aware of his.

i am acutely aware of his. >> i don't just buy this. >> oh, you know, i'm a victim because everybody wants to bring me because popular. me down because i'm so popular. that's not these these that's not true. these these allegations are really quite serious. i think it's wrong to try somebody in the court of pubuc try somebody in the court of public opinion. i think that's completely unacceptable. and we've seen it happen to people and we've seen go badly, and we've seen it go badly, badly look happened badly wrong. look what happened to . oh, i'm trying to, you know to. oh, i'm trying to, you know , i'm just i'm just going to add , there are so many cases of men who have had to say that brand has become a brand within himself he himself because he exposes he doesn't go online and just doesn't just go online and just spout nonsense. >> he investigates thoroughly. >> he investigates thoroughly. >> massive team . he has >> he has a massive team. he has a that work for him a massive team that work for him and what he will do in a lot of his podcasts and video casts he will because he has to get will take because he has to get around the regulations on youtube they more youtube because they are more restrictive than you would imagine. go to imagine. and he's had to go to rumble very reason. he rumble for that very reason. he will take a newspaper article, something from washington something from the washington times, from the times, from the mail, express, the mail, from the express, from the guardian, and he will critique it go to experts and

it and he will go to experts and say, this not say, is this true? is this not true? does always say, true? and he does always say, i don't know, but i'm putting the information out there for you to decide on a whole range. >> i don't understand why that is, that is at all germane is, why that is at all germane to discussion to this discussion. >> understand why >> right. i don't understand why the that has the fact that he has a successful youtube channel means that shouldn't that he shouldn't be held accountable for things he accountable for things that he did women. that's not it. did to women. that's not it. >> that's not what is. but >> that's not what it is. but it's about the suspicion. and there's a piece in the paper yesterday a of yesterday about how a third of adults what we call adults are now what we call super distrusters of mainstream establishment media, because so many people have felt let down by the establishment media in the last three years. they've gone to find people. >> these are these very >> but these are these are very trumpian territory here, guys. >> need to be really careful. >> we need to be really careful. sarah because remember, is the moment that somebody becomes influential to the amount that he is because he's very, very powerful. >> there is a pattern emerging here that the way that you tear men down is how is through the. and so are you. >> so are you are you saying the mainstream media are pulling him

down because they fear him? >> absolutely. i he tells >> absolutely. i think he tells the truth . where does the absolute truth. where does this come from with people? where does it want to see? >> these women made it all >> these women have made it all up into a mainstream up to fit into a mainstream media conspiracy? no, absolutely not. >> think it's very >> i think it's very fair for these women to forward these women to come forward if that's but that's how they feel. but everybody's allowed to be innocent proven innocent until they're proven guilty in the court of law. >> mean, i said >> i mean, i said i said yesterday in column that yesterday in my column that the whole has been politicised. >> it definitely has. and people do hijack, hijack it for their own means. but i still think that this the amount of stuff that's coming out about him is interesting and needs to be investigated. and i don't think that just because somebody, you know , you could say this about know, you could say this about prince andrew just because somebody powerful popular somebody is powerful or popular or they should be or whatever, that they should be exempt , that from exempt, that from the investigations . investigations. >> that's all i'm saying. >> that's all i'm saying. >> he was , though, there was >> he was, though, there was so much prince they much on prince andrew and they didn't really investigate him completely been destroyed by it. >> , but he still >> he wasn't, but he still wasn't checked up. >> still wasn't >> but it still wasn't investigated. well, hang on. >> him? >> it was. and who exposed him? the exactly. the mainstream >> it was. and who exposed him?

theexactly. the mainstream media >> exactly. the mainstream media exposed prince andrew. >> hardly. hang on. >> he was hardly. hang on. >> he was hardly. hang on. >> banned from public >> he's been banned from public life. check life. he's written a check for 11.5 poor old 11.5 million, which the poor old queen probably had to bankroll him. there never him. he doesn't there were never any him him. he doesn't there were never any he him him. he doesn't there were never any he didn't him him. he doesn't there were never any he didn't break him him. he doesn't there were never any he didn't break any him him. he doesn't there were never any he didn't break any law. because he didn't break any law. >> you could argue it was inappropriate behaviour here, inappropriate behaviour here, inajand)riatefinished . >> and he's finished. >> and he's finished. >> but then andrew, at the same time we don't really know time we, we don't really know what scenes what happens behind the scenes and what gets what i do and what gets played. what i do know is that there haven't been, there allegations know is that there haven't been, there against allegations know is that there haven't been, there against princeegations know is that there haven't been, there against prince andrew. of rape against prince andrew. >> there have been serious allegations rape against allegations of rape against russell brand , which we say no russell brand, which we say no to is two different women. >> what is trying to say is >> what bev is trying to say is i think somebody i do think that somebody deserves a second chance. i do think has made huge think that he has made a huge effort himself think that he has made a huge efforthe himself think that he has made a huge efforthe last himself think that he has made a huge efforthe last ten himself think that he has made a huge efforthe last ten hiri;elf over the last ten years. i do think that you can think it is unfair that you can have your you know, that your past can come to bite you past can come back to bite you really like this. i think really badly like this. i think people do should be able move people do should be able to move on from there. >> no statute limitations. >> no statute >> there's no statute of limitations. perhaps limitations. and i think perhaps one the things would one of the things that i would say i think that if say is that i do think that if women to bring claims women are going to bring claims against men against women are going to bring claims against or men against women are going to bring claims against or whatever,en against women are going to bring claims against or whatever, 11 against women are going to bring claims against or whatever, i think nst women are going to bring claims against or whatever, i think there women are going to bring claims againstperhapsever, i think there women are going to bring claims against perhapsevelal think there should perhaps be a limit. you have to say there isn't five

years or whatever you decide it's limit it's going to be sensible. limit someone probably it's going to be sensible. limit sonme,e probably it's going to be sensible. limit sonme,e i probably it's going to be sensible. limit sonme,e i just probably it's going to be sensible. limit sonme,e i just think probably it's going to be sensible. limit son me,e i just think there )ly not me, but i just think there has where you has to be a moment where you say, okay, we're drawing a line under that and we're on. under that and we're moving on. and he, and i think that, you know, he, he, know, everybody deserves he, you know, everybody deserves a in terms a second chance in terms of whether a whether this is actually a mainstream media plot to bring down the guy that might be the threat crown. threat to the crown. >> have no evidence of that. >> i have no evidence of that. i find it little implausible >> i have no evidence of that. i find there ttle implausible >> i have no evidence of that. i find there ttle some jsible >> i have no evidence of that. i find there ttle some editorial that there was some editorial meeting between channel 4 and the and news uk where they where they put their head and they put their head back and cackled let's bring they put their head back and cack down. let's bring they put their head back and cack down. i let's bring they put their head back and cackdown. i don'tlet's bring i him down. i don't think that i don't actually any evidence don't actually have any evidence that's happened. however for a four investor education four year investor education coming out now at a time when he is vulnerable. but also powerful. and by that i mean he's got either just powerful. and by that i mean he's got eitherjust had a baby in the last few days , has a baby in the last few days, has a baby on the way. it's the kind of time in your life when you go, this is not it. just this is not worth it. i'm just going away. i'm to going going to go away. i'm to going be silent. i'm going to with be silent. i'm going to be with my i don't put my family. i don't want to put this anymore this on my family anymore because he pushes boundaries this on my family anymore beca everye pushes boundaries this on my family anymore beca every podcast boundaries this on my family anymore beca every podcast against|ndaries with every podcast against biden, against various corrupt

organisation , runs against organisation, runs against pharmaceutical companies. he's gone off. >> but is he guilty of rape? >> but is he guilty of rape? >> i don't know what power those people have. >> back in the day he was an absolute obnoxious so—and—so and he was part of a whole culture of over sexual. he treated women really badly and he behaved really badly and he behaved really badly. and he i thought he was revolting. i always thought he was revolting when he went out with jemima khan, i was like, jemima, why are you going out with him? >> i agree. i do. >>— >> i agree. i do. >> i agree. i do. >> i did insane, you know, and i think there's an element here of saying, i remember a few years ago, manson, you know, saying, i remember a few years ago ridiculous iianson, you know, saying, i remember a few years ago ridiculous singer, you know, the ridiculous singer who pretends was accused pretends to be satan was accused of being being violent by an of being of being violent by an ex felt like ex girlfriend. and i felt like saying, literally saying, listen, he literally makes living of pretending makes a living out of pretending to what to be satan. what did you expect? tiddlywinks and knitting. know, there are knitting. you know, there are certain who you avoid like certain men who you avoid like the plague . and is one. the plague. and he is one. >> i found what i did find problems about dispatches problems about the dispatches documentary , bushra, how documentary, bushra, is how the women were just passengers. they documentary, bushra, is how the wom

, as though, well, yes, i turned up his house and they all up to his house and they all talk about it with this detachment as though but detachment as though like but that you that like you were that you did that like you were a willing participant in that relationship . relationship. >> this is what >> well, this is this is what i'm about i'm talking about. i talk about where female where is the level of female personal responsibility in your choices . you know, the same way choices. you know, the same way sarah said, if a woman says no, a woman says no said. but sarah said she found him revolting. a woman says no said. but sarah said otheryund him revolting. a woman says no said. but sarah said other women] revolting. a woman says no said. but sarah said other women notyolting. a woman says no said. but sarah said other women not finding him how other women not finding him revolting and just choosing to go with this man knowing because he was it was public knowledge what his behaviour. >> the woman says no woman says no. bushra. >> he was always a very skilled manipulator. you talk about him being hero and being this great hero and everything. don't this everything. don't forget, this is who out kate is a man who went out with kate moss jemima khan and married moss and jemima khan and married katy he's good at katy perry. he's good at tricking people into thinking that an okay guy. you that he's an okay guy. so, you know, i you know, appreciate know, i you know, i appreciate what about his his what you say about his his internet everything, internet stuff and everything, but i just he's but i just think he's a confidence trickster of the absolute first order. i just don't buy it. i think in terms

of his con content that he is generated online, i would just urge you to watch it and then work out the journalistic integrity that he takes to those. >> some of them some of them are just funny, but a lot of the stuff that he gets away with as well, particularly during the pandemic, comedy he gets well, particularly during the pand> do you think, sarah, some of the collateral for the beneficial collateral for maybe these outlets of maybe these media outlets of this bbc because a lot of

this is the bbc because a lot of this is the bbc because a lot of this was on the bbc watch when he was a radio presenter. he was a radio two presenter. >> the are now going >> and so the bbc are now going to to hurriedly back to have to hurriedly roll back and their and find out what their protocols was the newspaper >> on sunday was the newspaper that pushed andrew sachs that pushed the andrew sachs story and we were really criticised, pilloried for it, and we had a really rough time actually bbc because we actually from the bbc because we were pushing the sort of andrew sachs this not okay, you sachs this is not okay, you can't somebody up and say can't ring somebody up and say these and we got into these things and we got into a lot trouble. at lot of trouble. i remember at the it about and the time it was about 2008 and it not nice. people it was not very nice. people were about were really horrible about the newspaper paper because we were pushing this because, you know, it's time now, it's such a different time now, though, it? yeah, though, isn't it? well, yeah, but think but, but but it is. but think but, but but it is. but think but, but but i do that, know, but i do think that, you know, it's important to remember that this is important work that the people are doing. it needs to be done. >> i don't think this is about also i don't think this is about the times sunday times the sorry the times sunday times trying to get at the bbc. i don't i don't that at all. don't i don't get that at all. >> bbc have done this on >> but the bbc have done this on numerous occasions. they've done it they've it with you know, they've done it with you know, they've done it of their it with lots of their presenters. don't to presenters. we don't need to list there's sort list them. and there's a sort of element is element of, well, that person is too powerful to really stand up

to. you know, and that's, to. and, you know, and that's, that's that's of that's but that's part of a celebrity culture. and this goes back whole harvey back to the whole harvey weinstein hollywood and weinstein thing in hollywood and where started first where metoo started in the first place, powerful place, which is that powerful men sometimes women and men and sometimes women and where is it? >> and you know what i would like a newspaper the like a newspaper to publish the guest island guest list to the epstein island , whichever newspaper goes first on you also have the on that, you will also have the loyalty and millions loyalty of millions and millions of out right. of people out there. right. in the moments, we're the next few moments, we're going gb news going to be hearing from gb news home mark white from home security. mark white from russell home town of russell brand's home town of henley on thames. we're still on the telly. stop chatting, but . the telly. stop chatting, but. the temperature's rising . the temperature's rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good day to you. we do have some heavy thundery rain clearing eastwards behind it though further thunderstorms this time in the shape of showers and it's going be showers and it's going to be windy or blustery for all of us. it's this low pressure here that's causing the unsettled weather moment. and you

weather at the moment. and you can see front that's can see the cold front that's been moving eastwards across the uk this spell of rain uk bringing this spell of rain to many places and it's been heavy at times with some thunder mixed that is now mixed in. but that is now clearing away towards the east, still lingering through much of the across parts orkney still lingering through much of the shetland; parts orkney still lingering through much of the shetland behind orkney still lingering through much of the shetland behind it.)rkney still lingering through much of the shetland behind it. yes ey and shetland behind it. yes something brighter, also cooler , but also further showers to come . and these could still be come. and these could still be heavy thundery temperatures heavy and thundery temperatures getting to highs around 2021 getting to highs of around 2021 celsius. those strong celsius. but with those strong winds, it's going to feel cooler than this as we go through the end of the day. said, end of the day. like i said, some across the some rain continuing across the far north—east. otherwise some clear particularly clear spells, particularly towards eastern and southern parts plenty showers parts, but plenty of showers feeding in, especially across western parts of scotland . still western parts of scotland. still heavy and thundery at times . and heavy and thundery at times. and then persistent then some more persistent rain and winds feeding from and strong winds feeding in from the later , temperatures on the west later, temperatures on paper dropping. huge paper not dropping. a huge amount because unsettled, amount because of the unsettled, the and cloudy weather. the windy and cloudy weather. many will have . so a wet many of us will have. so a wet picture many parts on picture across many parts on tuesday, particularly north—west england, north wales here. rainfall totals really building up, especially over the higher

ground, perhaps some brighter skies and also mix of showers skies and also a mix of showers across northern of across northern parts of scotland, , quite a scotland, elsewhere, quite a cloudy and there'll be cloudy picture and there'll be rain at times and some strong winds. though winds. so even though temperatures into the winds. so even though tem 20s, ures into the winds. so even though tem 20s, ites into the winds. so even though tem 20s, it will into the winds. so even though tem 20s, it will feel into the winds. so even though tem 20s, it will feel colder he low 20s, it will feel colder than that . than that. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news. news can't keep him under control this morning . under control this morning. >> right. we've got more to come. we're going to be debating russell brand, get in touch with gb news.com. gb views, itv news.com. are you going gb views, itv news.com. are you goiiwell , i'm just going to make >> well, i'm just going to make a tea, actually. oh yeah. a cup of tea, actually. oh yeah. >> bad. not bad. >> not bad. not bad.

good morning . good morning. >> it's 11:00 good morning. >> it's11:00 on monday, the 18th of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so blind eye to brand questions are being asked this morning whether tv executives turned a blind eye to russell brand's behaviour and alleged sexual crimes. a transparency metastasised into something criminal that i absolutely deny makes me question is there another agenda at play, particularly when we've seen coordinated media attacks before ? >> ?- >> he's 7— >> he's accused ? >> he's accused of rape 7 >> he's accused of rape and sexual assault allegations he's strenuously denied. we're going to give you all the latest on that. >> and a really sad story is it?

last orders. the number of pubs being closed across england and wales increased by 50% over the latest quarter. >> an hypocrite, mayor? oh yes, mayor of london, sadiq khan and his team racked up more than 430,000 air miles since he was elected in 2016. so he's worried about global warming . about global warming. 430,000 air miles from a london mayor. >> but you're not allowed to drive your car. what do you make of that? vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. first of all, here's your latest news with lisa hartle . lisa hartle. >> good morning. it's 11:01. lisa hartle. >> good morning. it's11:01. i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom. bbc channel 4 and production company bannau uk have launched internal investigations against comedian russell brand for women have

accused the 48 year old of rape and sexual assault during the height of his popularity between 2006 and 2013. russell brand denies all the allegations and says all of his relationships have been consensual, investigated live journalist mark williams—thomas says more people could come forward . and people could come forward. and i've already had one person who's contacted me talk to me about brand . about brand. >> there will be numerous other people who are contacting either the authorities or other individuals . russell brand individuals. russell brand himself has been very clearly saying that there are things that have happened in the past. he puts it down to a promiscuous relationship that he's had . you relationship that he's had. you know, there is obviously an issue where consent is the question . question. >> conservative mp miriam cates has spoken exclusively to gb news about her belief that britain's tax system is putting people off having children. she says she'll keep on pushing for more flexible and options for families . families. >> our country is really an outlier in the way we treat

families, and one of the one of the reasons for that is our taxation system. so we don't recognise families or households in system. so it's in the taxation system. so it's actually disadvantageous have actually disadvantageous to have children. asked whether children. and i asked whether they'd at redistributing they'd look at redistributing this money so that it was much more flexible. each family this money so that it was much more have le. each family this money so that it was much more have a. each family this money so that it was much more have a budget,1 family this money so that it was much more have a budget, decider could have a budget, decide how they that money, they want to spend that money, pay they want to spend that money, pay spend more at pay granny, spend more time at home, go work, but have more home, go to work, but have more flexible they're flexible childcare. but they're not interested in that policy at the moment. and as i said, i think this this policy is fairly fixed for this parliament work and pensions minister laura trott the government cares trott says the government cares about families, the priority about families, but the priority is cutting inflation. >> i spoke earlier about how that was a total focus for everybody in government at the moment and that is the biggest tax cut that any family get tax cut that any family can get right now. tax cut that any family can get riginow n. tax cut that any family can get riginow in addition to you >> now in addition to this, you would earlier this would have seen earlier this yean would have seen earlier this year, lot year, we've done a lot on childcare . so trying to childcare reforms. so trying to make that it easier to make sure that it is easier to go out to work if that's what you want to do. so those are the kind of two things that the government is focussed on the government is focussed on at the moment, that. moment, but i respect that. miriam pushing, miriam is going to be pushing, you things that

you know, further things that she wants us to do. >> a man has been with >> a man has been charged with trespass following an incident near buckingham palace. our word ravioli was arrested after climbing a wall and entering the royal mews area near the palace on saturday. the 25 year old has also been charged with attempted theft from a motor vehicle dunng theft from a motor vehicle during the same incident. he's appearing at westminster magistrate court today . the magistrate court today. the labour leader says he would seek a much closer trading relationship with the eu if his party wins the next election . party wins the next election. sir keir starmer says it's complete garbage to suggest labour planned to join an eu wide migrant quota scheme to tackle migrant crossings. sir keir has spent the weekend meeting canada's prime minister and is expected to meet the french president later this week. conservatives say labour would accept 100,000 migrants from the eu each year if elected to power . nhs from the eu each year if elected to power. nhs leaders say strikes by junior doctors and consultants this week will cause unprecedented disruption for patients. consultants in england

will walk out for 48 hours from tomorrow with junior doctors joining them on wednesday and picketing until friday. the row between the unions and the government over pay and working conditions takes place. emergency care will continue, but thousands of appointments will be postponed . ministers are will be postponed. ministers are under pressure to address a surge in self—harm related deaths in prisons . there have deaths in prisons. there have been ten self—inflicted deaths in hmp wormwood scrubs between 2018 and 2022. andy slaughter, the labour mp for hammersmith , the labour mp for hammersmith, believes investigations into the prisoners deaths at the west london prison are taking far too long. but the government says its increased staff training on self—harm prevention and is working with the nhs to improve mental health care . the former mental health care. the former prime minister liz truss, has urged the government to cut taxes, shrink welfare spending and raise the retirement age. speaking at the institute for government online event, liz truss has defended decisions made in her mini—budget. ms

truss argued it's unfair to say that she had pursued unfunded tax cuts . she says the tax cuts. she says the government needs to act now before it's too late. if the situation was urgent last year, it's even more urgent now. >> the uk is in a serious and precarious position then and there is a real risk of a downward spiral. the national debt was 525,000,000,000 in 2005.by debt was 525,000,000,000 in 2005. by 2022 it had quadrupled . to 2.5 trillion and it's set to top 3 trillion within 3 to 4 years. torrential downpours and strong winds last night caused flash flooding on part of south—west england overnight . south—west england overnight. >> exeter airport was forced to close yesterday after water from flash flooding poured into the terminal, causing severe delays . an airport spokesperson says they have reopened after crews worked through the night to clean up the damage . the clean up the damage. the environment agency has issued

several fresh warnings with flooding expected after midnight as hurricane lee travels across the pond from america . this is the pond from america. this is gb news across the uk on tv or on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to andrew and . bev and.bev >> urgent investigations are being launched by the bbc and channel 4 in the wake of the serious allegations of sexual assault and rape against russell brand . brand. >> brand has denied the allegations arising from a joint investigation by the times, the sunday times and channel 4 dispatches. it's this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that i absolutely refute. >> these allegations pertain to the time when i was working in the time when i was working in the mainstream, when i was in the mainstream, when i was in the newspapers all the time, when was in the movies. and as when i was in the movies. and as i've written about extensively in my books, i was very, very

promiscuous. during that promiscuous. now, during that time promiscuity, time of promiscuity, the relationships i had were absolutely always consensual . absolutely always consensual. >> so just just as you can see there. so his podcast and video cast that he does from his house in henley on thames, that's that's what he see. that's what you on youtube. that's where you see on youtube. that's where he broadcasts from. >> where our very own >> and that's where our very own home editor home and security editor mark white is right now. mark, morning . morning. >> good morning to you. any sign of him ? of him? >> no. >> no. >> i mean his house is quite sheltered, to be honest . there's sheltered, to be honest. there's a lot of hedgerows around there, so you can't really see house from anywhere unless you, of course, intrude on private property. we're not going to do that. we're further down the river thames and his house is just behind me, or at least the end of the garden is there. so unless he decides to go skinny dipping in the thames today, we're not going to see him . but we're not going to see him. but as far as the ongoing investigation and allegations

are concerned, will the metropolitan police has confirmed that they have been in contact with the sunday times, though they will be reaching out and speaking to both the sunday times and channel 4 again in the coming days. but as of now, they have not received any complaints from anyone alleging any wrongdoing by russell brand at this time. and it's the same story for the los angeles police department . you'll remember in department. you'll remember in that dispatches programme on channel 4 in the weekend, it was alleging that two of the alleged offences took place in la while he was over living in that city. so nothing from the lapd, nothing from the metropolitan police, the met police have, though, appealed really for anyone that might have information or indeed would wish to lodge a complaint not to come

forward to them to lodge a complaint. and clearly, if they do receive any complaints from anyone, then we are in to the process then of a formal police investigation. but we're not at that stage yet just allegations that stage yet just allegations that have been made in our newspaper and on channel 4 are allegations that we have to say are strenuously denied by russell brand. >> mark, some suggestion from the times or the sunday times i've forgotten which that other people have already come forward to say they want to make. they're complain about they're going to complain about russell . russell brand. >> well, that's certainly what and that may well be true, but as yet, none of these people have contacted the metropolitan police to make their their claims in a formal criminal complaint. so that's where we are. lots of allegations is that appear to be made, according to the times , to them. and of

the times, to them. and of course, we know that some other people have come forward elsewhere to make allegations as well. we should say that one of the alleged victims who was 16 at the time when she said that she had entered into a relationship with russell brand , has been speaking on woman's houn , has been speaking on woman's hour, the programme on bbc radio four, and she's been saying that she found it laughable and insulting that russell brand has described the allegations against him as part of a main stream media conspiracy . against him as part of a main stream media conspiracy. he she also said that during the time that she was meeting russell brand, she said she was driven to his house in a bbc hired limousine. that is a question, of course, that bbc management will be trying to answer and get to the bottom of as they conduct their own internal investigation into allegations around russell

brand and indeed a similar investigation has been launched by channel 4. okay >> can we just stay on that woman's hour interview? mark it. she she's continuing to use a pseudonym. she's keeping her anonymity . anonymity. >> she of course she is. >>— >> she of course she is. >> i think she's about 30 now as well, isn't she? she's calling herself alice for the sort of pubuchy herself alice for the sort of publicity element of her coming forward and speaking. >> and as i say , she's just been >> and as i say, she's just been talking about how she, you know , felt used by russell brand said that, you know, she was young and clearly impressionable at the time. and as far as the bbc is concerned, well, there is that central allegation that the bbc, at least in terms of providing transport, were a party to her going to russell brand's house on a number of

occasions. >> okay. thank you , mark. thanks >> okay. thank you, mark. thanks very much. i think it's also important to say in terms of that that particular story about the 16 year old, there is a the 16 year old says how how keen russell brand was to point out , russell brand was to point out, ask her age. was she 16 before he had a relationship with her and he wanted to see for sure that she was 16 before he had a consensual sexual relationship with her. >> if we believe her that she taught him , he gave her advice taught him, he gave her advice on how to lie her parents on how to lie to her parents over the relationship and was very . very excited. >> that's what she said. >> well, that's what she said. and he was that she and how excited he was that she was a virgin. that's what she said. >> that's not illegal. it's a bit weird , but i would say most bit weird, but i would say most people listening, if they had a six year old daughter, would not want in a relationship with want them in a relationship with a 31 year international. the a 31 year old international. the 16 mother 16 year old daughter's mother dropped house. dropped her at the house. >> still argue most >> i would still argue most people watching and listening would would you want your 16? >> katie hind well, can just >> katie hind well, can i just ask, you want of your ask, would you want one of your teenage daughters bev turner to be in a relationship with someone brand at someone like russell brand at the 16, dropping off the age of 16, dropping her off

at the house? >> you him >> would you want him in a relationship >> would you want him in a relationsthen i was 16? bedroom when i was 16? >> my parents out i had >> if my parents found out i had a old boyfriend. right a 30 year old boyfriend. right they would not. my dad would have round and have probably gone round and sorted him. so sorted him out, capped him. so i might not be illegal, but it's inappropriate. yeah. >> if she's 16 years >> so come on. if she's 16 years old, is old enough to old, she is old enough to consent to have a sexual relationship . relationship. >> i do question why the mother was dropping her off at the house. that to me, as i said, i wouldn't have been allowed to leave house. leave the house. >> happening with leave the house. >> broadcasters�*nappening with leave the house. >> broadcasters1app> and these were the allegations he getting allegations that he was getting staff get girls phone

staff to get girls phone numbers, audience members numbers, female audience members to backstage so that to take them backstage so that he sleep with them . he could sleep with them. >> necessarily so we >> yeah, not necessarily so we could have a conversation with this. could have drink with this. we could have a drink with them. not illegal, them. well, it's not illegal, these, but these staff, these members they felt members of staff said they felt like . like pimps. >> right. so. so channel >> that's right. so. so channel 4 now today have said they've launched investigation see launched an investigation to see if there network if anybody out there network knew his behaviour . the knew about his behaviour. the bbc similarly on saturday were blaming it on lesley douglas, who was the controller of chain radio two. >> long gone. yes. so she was the radio two controller and very close to russell brand . very close to russell brand. >> and she was she resigned over pressure and this was over the just to remind people that. >> andrew sachs yes. >> andrew sachs yes. >> so she resigned over andrew sachs following much pressure. she ousted by the bbc she was ousted by the bbc because he left a message for message on answer machine on message on her answer machine on andrew machine, andrew sachs answer machine, saying his granddaughter. >> prank that was >> it was a prank call that was televised with jonathan ross and they televised with jonathan ross and the and thought and they >> and everyone thought and they thought it was really, really funny that to an 80 funny to do that to an 80 something year old man. yeah. so

lesley went in lesley douglas. douglas went in disgrace over that. the bbc over the weekend were briefing that she knew but she didn't escalate it. so again , they've passed the it. so again, they've passed the buck yesterday morning, the bbc was still saying , no, no, no, was still saying, no, no, no, no, no, you we're not we're not going to make any further comments. they were warned that perhaps they were going to get a bucket this morning from from the press. and last night they released a statement saying they were going to investigate urgently . urgently. >> and are they investigating? >> exactly. they're >> exactly. so they're investigating his behaviour on radio two. there were claims of lewd things that he said to his his news newsreader when he was on radio two, they played those , those clips are in the actual documentary, aren't they? >> yes. you wouldn't get away with it now. wouldn't. with it now. no. you wouldn't. different it's it was different times, but it's not illegal to be flirty with your newsreader. >> and was different >> and it was different times. i mean, you know, the, the noughfiesin mean, you know, the, the noughties in media. >> absolutely were difficult places to be. >> you know, i think i think i'd say i'd speak on as a woman .

say i'd speak on as a woman. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> they were probably hard places to for men as well. it places to be for men as well. it was its worth was the time of its worth remembering lad mags. remembering its lad mags. >> it fhm calendars. it was >> it was fhm calendars. it was nuts loaded and all of that. nuts and loaded and all of that. >> so the bbc gave they gave their listeners russell brand as a kind of an alternative, didn't they ? you know, they very much they? you know, they very much sort of like believed in it, didn't they? they sort of bought into his shtick . that was his into his shtick. that was his shtick. and they allowed it to happen. i guess looking back all these years later, you think i was pretty wrong, wasn't it? >> it was wrong. but we have this conversation all time this conversation all the time in channel should you in this channel about should you cancel comedy that wasn't appropriate . that was appropriate. that was appropriate. that was appropriate 1970. but isn't appropriate in 1970. but isn't appropriate in 1970. but isn't appropriate and often appropriate now. and we often say, and should you rewrite books ? well, we're in danger books? well, we're in danger here rewriting history in here of rewriting history in a very way for a man that very prudish way for a man that was clearly not somebody we should date. was it wasn't. should date. was it? it wasn't. >> he behaved. wasn't >> the way he behaved. wasn't okay. it's so to read these. >> the way he behaved was was acceptable at the time . and it acceptable at the time. and it was i'm not talking about the rapes. i'm not talking about

forced sexual assaults. but being a being a promiscuous was is not a crime. and this man's life should not be brought to the end because the fact that he could sleep with thousands of women, some of the stuff he's accused radio two is accused of at radio two is getting bits the getting his bits out in the studio while guests are in the studio. >> i mean, mean. studio. >> gross n, mean. studio. >> gross ., mean. studio. >> gross. i mean. studio. >> gross. i mean,. studio. >> gross. i mean, there i >> gross. i mean, there are i know that probably against know that is probably against the celebrities that the law. other celebrities that seem to do the same. yeah. >> , i mean, but, you know, >> well, i mean, but, you know, i think as well what's very interesting is interesting about this is russell to be russell brand appears to be being about it. being very defiant about it. >> we know that on >> so, yes, we know that on saturday despite saturday night he still, despite obviously he knew this came out a after the a few hours after the allegations were revealed in the sunday times just moments sunday times and just moments really before the dispatches programme was aired, he was on stage in wembley getting a standing ovation. one of my colleagues was there and yes, there ovation. there was a standing ovation. and got a tremendously and he has got a tremendously loyal fanbase and again tomorrow night he's expected . i don't night he's expected. i don't believe he's cancelled yet. he's expected to be at the theatre royalin expected to be at the theatre royal in windsor in windsor for another gig and meanwhile his

wife appears to be standing by him too so she will they he seems to be brazen in this out. >> this is the thing. but i can't believe it surprises you guys how loyal his following is. >> it's early days . let's see >> it's early days. let's see how trust me , they will be. how trust me, they will be. >> they will remain loyal. >> they will remain loyal. >> more comes out >> how much more comes out against him and see if they stay loyal. >> exactly. and i think, you know, this does need to taken know, this does need to be taken seriously it seriously and it needs to it needs be invested properly. needs to be invested properly. yeah. let's see what the yeah. and let's see what the thing is. >> the irony is for you two that work for a right wing newspaper , is your best asset because , he is your best asset because what he is now preaching is about liberty in view of the world. it's about prioritising the individual. that's why i love him , because of his love him, because of his political position about what he did. >> this is not this is. no. >> this is not this is. no. >> but when you're surprised how loyal his fans are. right. >> but all it will do to his subjects, to his views on the on. don't any proof on. we don't have any proof covid all rest of it. covid and all the rest of it. >> serious >> this is about serious allegations his personal conduct. >> we have no proof of what he's done. >> and as for the conspiracy

theories, i mean i mean, i believe and i believe right believe and i believe i'm right to this , that this is an to believe this, that this is an investigation been going investigation that's been going on for 3 or 4 years. i think they think the they started it. i think the journalist was on maternity leave. think she going leave. i think she kept going on it about months it. and then about six months ago, it was following ago, i think it was following a comedian. i think katherine ryan coming out saying she didn't coming out and saying she didn't know was the worst kept know it was the worst kept secret oomph to secret, then gave them oomph to go for it. i don't think it's anything to do with conspiracy theory. i think it's to do with journalism. and they've got a they've got a strong information that here that something was going on here and investigated it. and they investigated it. i don't think it's got anything to don't think it's got anything to do conspiracy. do with the conspiracy. >> no that this >> i have no evidence that this has by the old has been designed by the old media down new has been designed by the old media i down new has been designed by the old media i find down new has been designed by the old media i find thatwn new has been designed by the old media i find that implausible . media. i find that implausible. it is. i think it is a happy collateral coincidence that you've who has growing you've got a man who has growing every single day , a galvanised every single day, a galvanised fan base and all this will do the same as trump. exactly the same. with every indictment, it becomes what's becomes more popular. what's happened now with him being cornered he will cornered like this? he will galvanise more support galvanise even more support across the world because of what galvanise even more support acrrepresentsrld because of what galvanise even more support acrrepresents .d because of what he represents. >> well, we'll what what

>> well, we'll see what what what else do you expecting , what else do you expecting, kafie?| what else do you expecting, katie? i think i think we're going to hear more stories of people. >> i think people will come the stories of people coming forward. i don't believe we've seen anyone actually nothing's been reported that anyone actually has come forward. there are expected to come forward. i think i think the bbc will very much sort of say, well, nothing to see here. can i just ask you, katie, as a woman, as katie, as a as a woman, as a woman and a journalist , can you woman and a journalist, can you understand anyone would go understand why anyone would go to police , to a newspaper, not the police, i think. well i think they went to went to them. >> i think if they did get him. >> i think if they did get him. >> but but i think as well it's probably much more frightening to police. thankfully, to go to the police. thankfully, i've the need to go to i've never had the need to go to either because the are either because the police are often hostile. >> they are. >> they are. >> look how hard it is >> and look how hard it is for the you the police to take you seriously. read stories . seriously. if you read stories. >> rate on >> every 2% conviction rate on rape in this country. >> we've got to ask why is that? only 16 be asking that on the front page of these papers? >> every day? >> every day? >> you write about if it >> you write about it. if it happened, these crimes

happened, if these crimes happened, the fact that they've been a paper and now been reported in a paper and now the paper is talking to the police, that's really police, surely that's a really good they will be >> yeah, of course they will be investigated properly rather than and actually to a than and actually to have a newspaper behind you perhaps fighting these fighting your corner. these people, people don't people, these people often don't have voices . have voices. >> and a big man with a >> and he's a big man with a very voice with 6.5 million very big voice with 6.5 million followers social media, 11 followers on social media, 11 million twitter, 11 million million on twitter, 11 million on i he is an >> i mean, he is an international and people find that difficult. >> they find it difficult to complain the bloke next complain about the bloke next door assaulted complain about the bloke next door let assaulted complain about the bloke next door let alone assaulted complain about the bloke next door let alone somebody�*d complain about the bloke next door let alone somebody of the them, let alone somebody of the stature russell brand . stature of russell brand. >> that's right. and it took 10 to 15 years for a journalist to knock on door say, knock on their door and say, would like tell would you like to tell us something russell brand? something about russell brand? and what and we have no idea what they've been incentivised so been incentivised to do. so but if would if honestly, genuinely, i would love to see more rape convictions taken to court and be successful, men can be despicable at times . and also, despicable at times. and also, bearin despicable at times. and also, bear in mind, a quarter of the sexual assaults in this country last domestic, were a get against men as well . if we talk against men as well. if we talk about this, it's just women and they're normally domestic. yeah they're normally domestic. yeah

they are. right. okay. thanks so much , katie. great to see you. much, katie. great to see you. >> to you. looking fabulous >> to see you. looking fabulous . katie hind there? . am i say katie hind there? >> still come, >> right. still to come, 230 pubs disappeared for good in the three months to june. what is what is blame and what can be what is to blame and what can be done ? done? >> @ you're with >> terrible. you're with britain's newsroom in gb news. it going to go it means bevin. i'm going to go to more often. that's to the pub more often. that's what's going to happen today

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gb news radio. >> it's 1126 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. now pubs are going bust. in the last four months, a number of them torn down or converted in england and wales has shot up by a massive 50. >> this is really terrible. well, joining us to talk about this is the chief executive of the industry the night times industry association, michael kill michael, the pub is such an important part of english heritage, in particular welsh heritage, in particular welsh heritage . you call it what you heritage. you call it what you will. we can't afford to lose so many. and why are we? >> well, as you can appreciate, i mean, these these space is are such important communities where people can engage socially , people can engage socially, whether you're on your own or whether you're on your own or whether you're on your own or whether you come as a group, they're vitally important to many of the communities, whether you're you're you're a small village or you're a city. and the challenge that we've got is we've gone through a dip sort of crisis a double dip sort of crisis period. pandemic , and then period. the pandemic, and then moving into sort of the cost inflation crisis. and the biggest we face is it biggest issue we face is it costs us 40% more to operate

than it has been in the past. and we've also seen a downturn in trade because people have got less disposable income . so the less disposable income. so the culmination of those two things and the inability to be able to pass on those additional costs to the consumer has created this sort of vacuum or issue where we are starting to lose these businesses because it's just too difficult to trade . it's not difficult to trade. it's not something that is affordable for a business to continue. so many have been handing their keys back. >> is it worse in the in the rural areas? michael town cities or is it across the across the board ? board? >> it's across the board. i mean, there are challenges if you are within a city and things like the student midweek businesses have been hugely challenging. we're coming through freshers now and there has been a change in in approach for many of the sort of freshers that are returning . but also that are returning. but also we're finding that , you know,

we're finding that, you know, the towns and villages are really sort of struggling to maintain their position because they work on very fine margins. so the challenge that we have at the moment is how we can get that financial headroom with the budget coming out on the 22nd of november for whether they the government can extend the business rates. relief would be vitally important to sustain as many as possible. >> michael, just just tell us a bit about the challenges that pubs have in terms of events evolving with the times because times do change and we can't we can't stop the hands of time. i just wonder what pubs can do to evolve with a changing kind of demographic and changing social behaviours . behaviours. >> well, i think you've got to be multifaceted and one of the examples that we find is where people are, particularly in cities, are working from home. a couple of days a week. we're losing that trade in terms of business meetings or say to out of the five days within a week. so there's a lot of work that's

going in terms of pivoting similar to the way that they did dunng similar to the way that they did during the pandemic where they had different markets, had to find different markets, whether be off or whether it be off sales or pavement licence areas, to sort of utilise. but i think the key thing is, is to obviously keep on top of your costs. look at things like energy, which is now the second biggest cost for many of these businesses and how they can really sort of refine what they're doing. so a lot of it is about cost management and then the is expanding the the other side is expanding the proposition and trying to pivot to encourage different revenue streams in to ensure that you can sort of make up that shortcoming . but it can sort of make up that shortcoming. but it is a challenge and those those tipping points are very fine . tipping points are very fine. and we are aware that seven out of ten of these businesses are either breaking even or either barely breaking even or losing money. >> i ask you just >> michael, can i ask you just finally, the prime minister is famously sunak . famously teetotal rishi sunak. do gets the do you think he gets the importance of the pub and how much danger the pub is much danger the pub industry is . in? >> i think we i mean, we lobby very hard alongside other trade

organisations to let them know exactly how critical these industries are, whether we talk about the local pub , the bar or about the local pub, the bar or the nightclub, who suffer similar environments. so for us, yes, we keep pushing . yes, we yes, we keep pushing. yes, we have some very constructive conversations with ministers. the challenge we have is the long term strategy from cabinet at the moment doesn't fit the immediate challenge that are faced by our industry. so we've still got some way to go and i think the budget is that opportunity for the prime minister to stamp authority minister to stamp his authority on how we are going to be able to move forward. because without some, you know, fundamental changes with regard to approach, we're going to see many, many more lost . more lost. >> okay, michael, head of >> okay, michael, the head of the night time industries association listening so much. let's they're listening . let's hope they're listening. really important, asking whether let's hope they're listening. re'thoughtyrtant, asking whether let's hope they're listening. re'thought the it, asking whether let's hope they're listening. re'thought the pub;king whether let's hope they're listening. re'thought the pub would rhether let's hope they're listening. re'thought the pub would be :her let's hope they're listening. re'thought the pub would be in r he thought the pub would be in safe with keir starmers he thought the pub would be in safyin with keir starmers he thought the pub would be in safyin power. ith keir starmers he thought the pub would be in safyin power. but(eir starmers he thought the pub would be in safyin power. but who '>tarmers he thought the pub would be in safyin power. but who knows? i lot in power. but who knows? i mean, he doesn't. he likes a pint though, doesn't he? well he does. >> and of course, rishi didn't drink. >> rishi does not drink. maybe it's not desk. what do it's not on his desk. what do you vaiews@gbnews.com is

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sarah vine and bushra sheikh. another another week. another u—turn, another week. you must be another u—turn. who have we talked about? >> bushra keir starmer should we try? keir starmer let's talk immigration. start. immigration. let's start. let's talk immigration. let's start. let's taliyeah. okay so keir was >> yeah. okay so keir was obviously plan to tackle illegal migration has taken a little bit of a u—turn and this is quite standard for him really. yeah, it is, because he goes in with one angle because he wants to it is, because he goes in with one people 3ecause he wants to it is, because he goes in with one people on ause he wants to it is, because he goes in with one people on his; he wants to it is, because he goes in with one people on his sidewants to it is, because he goes in with one people on his sidewa|usual. get people on his side as usual. and then when it gets close to the he's always going to the time he's always going to change his mind. and the thing is, somebody that is, i don't like somebody that doesn't execute what they really want to do and stick on a position and roll with that. to me, that seems very snowflake key. and if they're not consistent like that, then how can you even back them as a democratic or a party generally? >> do you think he knows what he wants do? wants to do? >> no, i think no, i don't think wants to do? >> does. think no, i don't think wants to do? >> does. bulik no, i don't think wants to do? >> does. but this , i don't think wants to do? >> does. but this is don't think wants to do? >> does. but this is the|'t think wants to do? >> does. but this is the problem he does. but this is the problem with that every with labour is that every time there's any scrutiny, and especially in these very difficult areas, because immigration difficult immigration is a very difficult area have area where the tories have really and because really not succeeded and because because there really isn't an easy solution to the problem.

but what's interesting is, is that people keep saying that keir will potentially keir starmer will potentially try and take us back into europe . yeah, what saying here . yeah, what he was saying here was there should be some was that there should be some sort wide agreement sort of eu wide agreement on immigration burden immigration and sharing, burden sharing just to sharing. i would just like to point out italy is part of the eu and they had 7000 migrants arrive on lampedusa , which is an arrive on lampedusa, which is an island in the south over the course of the last week, which is more than the actual population of the island itself. i think it's 6800. and italy has had , you know, there is no had, you know, there is no sharing . italy has had no help sharing. italy has had no help from brussels on this. really. they haven't . the country is they haven't. the country is really struggling because because of their position geographically, they just get a lot. it's a sort of first stop, really, sicily , blah, blah, really, sicily, blah, blah, blah. and it's very difficult because they have been asking and george and meloni has been i mean, she's been talking very sorry. prime minister there, sorry. the prime minister there, she's been very tough she's been talking very tough game. but again, she can't get anything it's because anything done. and it's because brussels not help. as far brussels will not help. as far as they're concerned, it's not their problem because quite

honestly, south of honestly, it's the south of europe that ludicrous woman, ursula von der leyen with the italian prime the other day. >> and what did say? >> and what did she say? >> and what did she say? >> so there's nothing exactly. >> so there's nothing exactly. >> that we do >> so this idea that we can do some with some sort of fantastic deal with europe, it's not true. i mean, you know, it's never been true. i mean, even were the i mean, even when we were in the eu, they still were behaving like just what starmer said like just say what starmer said was would for was that we would in return for them, france or other countries, taking back some of the migrants who illegally. who cross here illegally. >> would take some migrants >> we would take some migrants in. worked in. the tories quickly worked out. would out about out. that would work out about 100,000 he's ditched the 100,000 a year. he's ditched the policy already. >> yeah. i mean, the thing is, whoever can solve this gordian knot of immigration is going to have a really good chance at the next election, isn't it? and yes, exactly. so that's what they're all trying to do. and they're all trying to do. and the tories tried very many the tories have tried very many different things. labour has shot down, but labour different things. labour has shot really down, but labour different things. labour has shot really have nn, but labour different things. labour has shot really have an, but labour different things. labour has shot really have a viable abour don't really have a viable alternative they're alternative and they're certainly they're anti certainly isn't and they're anti taking, flying them to rwanda, of course, of course they're anti rwanda because i don't know why they but just they're why they are, but just they're sort of what do you think.

>> think of any hope that >> do you think of any hope that labour answer to labour have got the answer to the solution? >> i don't think >> so i don't think so. >> so i don't think so. >> i believe this is >> i believe that this is incredibly complicated because incredibly complicated because in same do need to in the same time we do need to take of migrants we take a number of migrants in. we need. take a number of migrants in. we need . that's a of ours need. that's a policy of ours and getting this right is going to be critical, like you say, because whoever does that is going the going to essentially get the vote. see, my concern here vote. you see, my concern here is that i don't you can is that i don't think you can ever please everybody that that's that's that's the crux of it all. and if you can't please, please, everybody, it means that you probably cannot even get the processes right. i've always maintained one thing, though, when i when it comes to migration. i believe that we a generous believe that we are a generous country . i believe we give a lot country. i believe we give a lot as and just a party as well. and i just want a party to get their processes right. and if they do that, i think it will fix so much. fascinating. >> but lampedusa has taken 7000 in a week and we play . in a week and we can play. >> they're completely overwhelmed when overwhelmed and we complain when 200 the channel. 200 cross the channel. >> i mean, if we're 20,000, cross last year, cross the channel last year, 7000 in a week, in a week. >> i mean, they don't have where are living? >> i mean, they don't have where are well living? >> i mean, they don't have where

are well ,iving? >> i mean, they don't have where are well , they're not there. >> well, they're not there. >> well, they're not there. >> pieces >> they're sleeping on pieces of cardboard . i mean, cardboard outside. i mean, that's a huge issue, isn't it ? that's a huge issue, isn't it? they just have the your they just don't have the your family are in italy. >> i mean, they're in the north. >> and is it a big, big issue? >> and is it a big, big issue? >> it is a big issue. is a >> it is a big issue. it is a big issue because because i mean , have to say, , the thing is, i have to say, bush right. you know, this bush is right. you know, this country, people go country, people always go on about britain and colonialism and the italians are and all. but the italians are very don't like immigrants, put it that way. they really don't like immigrants. it that way. they really don't like immigrants . whereas here like immigrants. whereas here we're much more which is hence meloni being elected . yeah, meloni being elected. yeah, we're much more accepting of other cultures and we're genuinely, you know, we like it and we consider it to be a good thing. whereas in italy it's tough. i mean, those people will, know, they will they will, you know, they will they will, you know, they will they will be warmly accepted. will not be warmly accepted. >> but what we don't want is starmer bringing them from from lampedusa to here because we've got problems schools and got problems with schools and hospital and jobs. it's appalling . appalling. >> also, don't forget, it's much easier that that route into italy very easy route, right? italy is very easy route, right? so you know these you get a much

higher proportion of simple economic migrants. yeah these are not asylum seekers necessarily . necessarily. >> i think we've got a little breaking news story, ladies. so look at these pictures, which are us at the are just coming to us at the moment. is extinction moment. this is extinction rebellion . apparently, they've rebellion. apparently, they've poured oil over the steps poured fake oil over the steps of head quarters, cut the of labour head quarters, cut the ties. if you're listening on the radio, big black and white poster on the front of the building, cut the ties and somebody presumably burning a firework or something to indicate chimneys and that that is extinction rebellion in protest over the steps of laboun protest over the steps of labour. why now ? labour. why now? >> why would labour have abandoned that £28 billion investment in green technology and investment? that's why that was investment and of was a huge investment and of course he's also gone a bit wobbly on whether there should be new naughty oil licences. >> exactly . and well, let's >> yes, exactly. and well, let's see if he makes a u—turn. >> well, of course they make u—turn. >> of course they make a u—turn. but this segways into this amazing story about labour. mayor many air

mayor sadiq khan, how many air miles racked up miles of his team racked up since he became in 2016? since he became mayor in 2016? bucha for more than 430,000. >> and let me tell you about one trip i wrote about this in the mail. >> uh, he took his team to one sars. of course he quite sars. of course he did quite a large to go to a conference large team to go to a conference on, guess what climate change. you make it up. you couldn't make it up. >> look it up. >> look it up. >> why didn't he do it on a zoom call? >> but this is the point, isn't it? >> we are all being encouraged to smaller lives with to live smaller lives with less travel. ever affect. travel. it won't ever affect. no. sadiq khan. no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> doesn't . and that's no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people oesn't . and that's no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people deem . and that's no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people deem himj that's no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people deem him like it's no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people deem him like is no. the likes of sadiq khan. >> people deem him like i do as why people deem him like i do as a hypocrite . yeah, you're saying a hypocrite. yeah, you're saying all of this stuff about the climate crisis? look, i'm a climate crisis? look, i'm a climate begin with climate sceptic to begin with anyway. we've just seen just stop what they're doing. stop oil, do what they're doing. they're an entire nuisance. then you've of london you've got the mayor of london pushing stuff , which pushing all of this stuff, which we is completely we know is completely contradictory to the way that he wants live his own lifestyle, wants to live his own lifestyle, low emissions zone, charging every £12.50. low emissions zone, charging eve now £12.50. low emissions zone, charging eve now tope12.50. congestion >> now on top of the congestion charge he takes 430,000 charge. and yet he takes 430,000 air miles. he's racked up. >> do as i say, not as i do. i have though, i am very have to say, though, i am very conflicted on all this because

i'm a cyclist. i'm a i drive in london and i also cycle in london. >> i hope you a helmet. >> i hope you wear a helmet. >> i hope you wear a helmet. >> wear helmet. >> i do actually wear a helmet. my >> i do actually wear a helmet. my i keep in the basket. my i keep my dog in the basket. she have a helmet, she doesn't have a helmet, though, right? it might be problematic, say, problematic, but i have to say, i i these cycle i have to say i these cycle lanes are a game changer for cyclists. >> you you approve of them ? >> you you approve of them? >> you you approve of them? >> well, i don't see is the >> well, i don't see this is the problem. completely problem. i'm completely conflicted because when conflicted in terms because when you're car, they you're driving your car, they get nerves. get on your nerves. >> of course you >> i'm furious. of course you are . are. >> and when i'm on my bike, i'm like, great. like, oh, this is great. >> so i'm completely irrational i >> -- >> so those those look , i get >> so those those look, i get it. the safety part of people cycling . i just believe that cycling. i just believe that this country's weather just doesn't facilitate, right? cycling >> i stuck in the rain, and >> i got stuck in the rain, and then motorist is infuriated then the motorist is infuriated because i'm a driver. then the motorist is infuriated beciuse i'm a driver. then the motorist is infuriated beci driven a driver. then the motorist is infuriated beci drive sometimes the >> i drive sometimes the ambulance can't get through. >> know it's terrible, narrow >> i know it's terrible, narrow and frequently . and frequently. >> why is that, khan? why have you done this to london? >> sorry , do you cycle >> and i'm sorry, do you cycle through red light? vine through red light? sarah vine i do not. >> and i will tell you that the other day was cycling . i don't other day i was cycling. i don't know. and was know. i absolutely and i was cycling to work the other day

because cross because i was, i was cross because i was, i was cross because someone had because somebody, someone had said know, said on twitter that, you know, all motorists are all the motorists always are terrible to cyclists. so i thought, to thought, i'm actually going to count infractions thought, i'm actually going to cotmy infractions thought, i'm actually going to cotmy way infractions thought, i'm actually going to cotmy way to infractions thought, i'm actually going to cotmy way to work. infractions on my way to work. >> yes. how many you get >> yes. how many did you get through? there eight. through? there were eight. >> who jumped >> eight cyclists who jumped some red lights and one who was smoking a massive spliff , which smoking a massive spliff, which i think is also illegal. >> is . i think it is. >> it is. i think it is. >>— >> it is. i think it is. >> so that's nine infractions just on journey to work. and just on my journey to work. and if not a very journey if he's not a very long journey and and they and they never stop and they breathalyse course, breathalyse people of course, but breathalysed breathalyse people of course, but understand thalysed breathalyse people of course, but understand smoking, but them, i understand smoking, but that's thing that's the other thing i've noficed that's the other thing i've noticed in london. cycling in london absolutely almost london is that absolutely almost every you you pull up every van that you you pull up to next to the lights , they're to next to the lights, they're having spliff. really having a massive spliff. really i mean, the smell of weed. the smell weed is absolutely everywhere. >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god. >> yeah. you've moved to chiswick. smell chiswick. i know. the smell of weed is everywhere. >> it used to be the smell of hops from the brewery pavement. and i. >> i talked to a deputy mayor. one of his deputy mayors the other day. an event who said, oh, all this fuss about . about oh, all this fuss about. about all about the ultra oh, all this fuss about. about all emission bout the ultra oh, all this fuss about. about all emission zone the ultra oh, all this fuss about. about all emission zone the [just low emission zone will just evaporate. simply

evaporate. i said you simply don't it, do you? poorer don't get it, do you? poorer people who can't afford people who simply can't afford to pay it. and you lot labour are supposed to care about poorer working people. >> yeah, i get it. >> yeah, i get it. >> i had someone the other day asked me, butcher, do you think that will retract and that they will retract it and they ulez altogether? that they will retract it and theyi ulez altogether? that they will retract it and theyi said, ulez altogether? that they will retract it and theyi said, no.ilez altogether? that they will retract it and theyi said, no. inz altogether? that they will retract it and theyi said, no. in fact,ygether? that they will retract it and theyi said, no. in fact, iether? that they will retract it and theyi said, no. in fact, i think’ and i said, no. in fact, i think they're probably going to expand and i said, no. in fact, i think theven probably going to expand and i said, no. in fact, i think theven proba ify going to expand and i said, no. in fact, i think theven proba if they 1g to expand and i said, no. in fact, i think theven proba if they can) expand and i said, no. in fact, i think theven proba if they can get3and and i said, no. in fact, i think thevewithyba if they can get3and and i said, no. in fact, i think thevewith it, if they can get3and and i said, no. in fact, i think thevewith it, they ey can get3and and i said, no. in fact, i think thevewith it, theyey can galland away with it, they will go all they will take it to the mile that yeah they will that they can. yeah they will keep people. it's an keep charging people. it's an absolute keep charging people. it's an abswete some money. keep charging people. it's an abs20 te some money. keep charging people. it's an abs20 mile some money. keep charging people. it's an abs20 mile an me money. keep charging people. it's an abs20 mile an hour|oney. keep charging people. it's an abs20 mile an hour limit. now in >> 20 mile an hour limit. now in wales, cardiff, wales, i was in cardiff, labour government and you know is, government and you know it is, it is to going paralyse that government and you know it is, it is to ycompletely'se that government and you know it is, it is to completely .e that country completely. >> there's been and there's been a suggesting it will cost a report suggesting it will cost the economy billions of the economy billions in terms of delays something. the economy billions in terms of delyeah. mething. the economy billions in terms of delyeah. methin brilliant >> yeah. rather brilliant because delay, delay hate the motorist . i think yes well i motorist. i think so yes well i think i think i think labour in wales pretty much hate anyone. don't they. >> i think there's well there's just concerted effort against just a concerted effort against the every the motorist from every political persuasion. feels political persuasion. it feels at the moment doesn't it ? sadiq at the moment doesn't it? sadiq khan of course would say he is doing the right thing and his motives are honourable , of

motives are honourable, of course, to cut air pollution , course, to cut air pollution, even though the science is very dodgy on that. yeah. to cut air pollution . he he would of course pollution. he he would of course say that. do you want a quick word on liz truss. >> sarah's good at >> oh i think sarah's good at this. sarah talking about this. >> you've known liz truss for years. what really think years. what do you really think of vine? only got. years. what do you really think of do vine? only got. years. what do you really think of do you ne? only got. years. what do you really think of do you really only got. years. what do you really think of do you really think! got. years. what do you really think of do you really think ofot. what do you really think of this? up. she said this? sarah sped up. she said that her plan had this? sarah sped up. she said that hercontroversyylan had this? sarah sped up. she said that hercontroversyylanonei this? sarah sped up. she said that hercontroversyylanone day enough controversy for one day without without me weighing. without me, without me weighing. >> you're not going to >> so you're not going to tell me really think of liz me what you really think of liz truss? i know what truss? because i know what she really liz truss really thinks of liz truss to you look fabulous today, by the way. >> i bought a dress. >> i bought a dress. >> it's a lovely dress. >> it's a lovely dress. >> you look great. >> you look great. >> you look great. >> you look >> i do look great. you look great course, but this >> i do look great. you look grlovely. course, but this is lovely. >> oh, shall we stop talking? >> oh, shall we stop talking? >> think we've little >> i think we've got a little bit longer, tell me. bit longer, so just tell me. sarah. truss. she's saying sarah. liz truss. she's saying her economic would have her economic plan would have saved our government. do you her economic plan would have savedshe. government. do you her economic plan would have savedshe. isvernment. do you her economic plan would have savedshe. is vern right? do you her economic plan would have savedshe. is vern right? dc shej think she. is she right? is she getting goated as a as a getting scape goated as a as a female prime minister? a different rules if she just wants leader of wants to be the next leader of the doesn't she ? the opposition, doesn't she? >> going to happen. no. >> i mean, this just >> i mean, i think this is just a of political she to >> i mean, i think this is just a back political she to >> i mean, i think this is just a back in)litical she to >> i mean, i think this is just a back in the :al she to >> i mean, i think this is just a back in the political to >> i mean, i think this is just a back in the political fray. to

be back in the political fray. she wants to be relevant again. she wants to be relevant again. she and i mean, i have to say, she's hasn't she's got some chutzpah, hasn't she? after sort of she? she has. after the sort of embarrassment she suffered. she? she has. after the sort of ethink assment she suffered. she? she has. after the sort of ethink assmergot she suffered. she? she has. after the sort of ethinkassmergot you'vefered. she? she has. after the sort of ethink assmergot you've gotd. i think you've got to you've got to serious to say those are some serious people to show people wouldn't be able to show their in westminster. their face again in westminster. >> she's she's leaning the >> she's she's leaning in the shortest history shortest serving prime history of i i think it's >> i mean, i do think it's courageous. i still don't think she right about anything. courageous. i still don't think she right. ght about anything. courageous. i still don't think she right. sarahyout anything. courageous. i still don't think sheright. sarahyoutbushrarg. >> right. sarah vi, bushra sheikh, much . sheikh, thank you so much. >> we're for a day for >> we're done for a day for today. have lie today. i'm going to have a lie down in dark room. we're going down in a dark room. we're going to weather. down in a dark room. we're going to a weather. down in a dark room. we're going to a wemore. down in a dark room. we're going to a wemore rain,i down in a dark room. we're going to a wemore rain, i think the >> a bit more rain, i think the temperatures rising. >> boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good day to you. we do have some heavy thundery rain clearing eastwards. behind it, though , further it, though, further thunderstorms this time in the shape of showers. and it's going to be windy or blustery for all of us. this low pressure of us. it's this low pressure here that's causing the unsettled weather at the moment. and see the cold front and you can see the cold front that's moving eastwards that's been moving eastwards across the bringing this across the uk, bringing this spell of rain many places. spell of rain to many places. and it's been heavy at times with thunder mixed in. but

with some thunder mixed in. but that now clearing away that is now clearing away towards the east, still lingering through the towards the east, still ling acrosshrough the towards the east, still ling across parts�*n the towards the east, still ling across parts of the towards the east, still ling across parts of orkney the towards the east, still ling across parts of orkney and day across parts of orkney and shetland behind it. yes, something brighter, also cooler, but also further showers to come. and these could still be heavy and thundery temperatures getting to highs of around 2021 celsius. those strong celsius. but with those strong winds, it's going to feel cooler than this as we go through the end day. i said, than this as we go through the end rain day. i said, than this as we go through the end rain continuing said, than this as we go through the end rain continuing across the some rain continuing across the far northeast. otherwise some clear particularly clear spells, particularly towards southern towards eastern and southern parts, plenty of showers parts, but plenty of showers feeding in, especially across western of scotland. still western parts of scotland. still heavy thundery times . and heavy and thundery at times. and then some persistent rain then some more persistent rain and feeding from and strong winds feeding in from the later on. temperatures the west later on. temperatures on paper not dropping. a huge amount unsettled. amount because of the unsettled. the windy and weather. the windy and cloudy weather. many us will have. so a wet many of us will have. so a wet picture across many parts on tuesday , particularly northwest tuesday, particularly northwest england, wales here. england, north wales here. rainfall totals really building up , especially over the higher up, especially over the higher ground, perhaps some brighter skies also a mix of showers skies and also a mix of showers across parts of across northern parts of scotland elsewhere, quite scotland. elsewhere, quite a cloudy picture and there'll be rain times some strong rain at times and some strong

winds. so even though temperatures into the temperatures getting into the low will feel colder low 20s, it will feel colder than that . than that. >> the temperatures rising , boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> well, up next, it's the live desk with martin daubney and pip thompson. well, what's coming up on today's program? here they are. >> well, don't know if it's going as you two. >> of course will be. >> of course it will be. >> of course it will be. >> think going to >> i think this is going to spill the newsroom, spill out into the newsroom, isn't it? >> let's have a wrestle or something to talk back. >> okay. right. wrestling. >> okay. right. we're wrestling. >> okay. right. we're wrestling. >> skins. yeah >> well, we are going to be talking notes. >> well, we are going to be talishe's notes. >> well, we are going to be talishe's chairmans. the. >> she's chairman of the. >> she's chairman of the. >> well , the woman women in >> well, the woman women in equalities committee , because equalities committee, because she's going to call some of these isn't she? she's going to call some of the she isn't she? she's going to call some of the she yeah. isn't she? she's going to call some of the she yeah. and isn't she? she's going to call some of the she yeah. and she's she? she's going to call some of the she yeah. and she's also >> she yeah. and she's also pushing a full police pushing for a full police investigation this so investigation on this now. so we're be asking the we're going to be asking the question, so can russell brand get trial at that after get a fair trial at that after this trial? >> ultimately , it comes down to >> ultimately, it comes down to due process . there is not yet due process. there is not yet a police investigation . so we are police investigation. so we are going to be exploring all that. and also that short lived. prime

minister liz truss . minister liz truss. >> oh, yes, she's been speaking this morning. >> she has, isn't she, who actually was that interested in what say? that's what what she had to say? that's what we to know. we want to know. >> she's got this small >> well, she's got this small group of mps, the commission for local , and local growth or something, and she is without a doubt in my view, trying to rehabilitate her reputation, not with a view to running again, but to rehabilitate her reputation, because currently she's seen as the worst, disastrous prime the worst, most disastrous prime minister history. minister in british history. >> many actually >> but how many people actually want to what she has to want to hear what she has to say? minister days. say? i minister of 44 days. i want to hear what she to say. >> i always think liz truss was very hard done by. thought her very hard done by. i thought her growth right . i growth vision was right. i understand liam halligan has been times said understand liam halligan has bee fact times said understand liam halligan has bee fact that times said understand liam halligan has bee fact that the times said understand liam halligan has bee fact that the economy said the fact that the economy crashed down the fact that the economy crelizzd down the fact that the economy creliz truss down the fact that the economy creliz truss . down to liz truss. >> it's the way a lot of it was like the parking lots to do with it. she was trying to do things too fast, too fast. and kwasi kwarteng was the chancellor kept saying, you're running before you can walk. >> also going to be >> and we're also going to be asking, starmer putting asking, is keir starmer putting us track to rejoin the us back on track to rejoin the european union? i he is european union? i think he is closer alignment, closer deals ,

closer alignment, closer deals, totally slippery on the numbers of migrants. we will have absolutely . martin return for absolutely. martin return for any deal that we get. i think he's going to get us over a barrel. nhs strikes cost barrel. also, nhs strikes cost us £1 billion so far. should they be outlawed ? should it be they be outlawed? should it be an essential service? well, they're strike. an essential service? well, the consultants strike. an essential service? well, the consultants and strike. an essential service? well, the consultants and juniorke. >> consultants and junior doctors for the first time going on strike together this week. what is that going to cause for? >> and it's extraordinary. still on the front of the telegraph today, nhs england is spending 140 is spending £14 million on a unit to effectively become all about wokeist. i thought all that was to was we're that was going to stop was we're also covering that. >> that's costing £14 million. that's outrageous. 177 jobs over 50 grand a pop. just to talk about diversity and inclusion, i'll tell you what, just use the equality act and get rid of all of those jobs. >> the lot of them, none of them involved medicine. involved in medicine. yeah, appalling, involved in medicine. yeah, appalli sure it will be >> i'm sure it will be fantastic. martin an there. >> i'm sure it will be fanthave martin an there. >> i'm sure it will be fanthave come n an there. >> i'm sure it will be fanthave come n an endiere. >> i'm sure it will be fanthave come n an end ofa. >> i'm sure it will be fanthave come n an end of the we have come to the end of the show now. we're going to be back with tomorrow with britain's newsroom tomorrow at coming

>> well . good >> well. good >> well. good >> good afternoon. it is midday and you are with the live desk here on gb news coming up this lunchtime as more women have come forward with fresh allegations after comedian russell brand was accused of rape and sexual assault allegations. >> he denies .

>> he denies. >> he denies. >> the nhs is braced for a week of disruption as strikes by junior doctors and consultants are expected to hit patient care and all we see in the last orders for the great british boozen >> well, new figures show an alarming number of juicers are closing down the aftermath of the thunderstorms and heavy rain which hit the uk overnight. >> right. there are warnings of more bad weather to come . more bad weather to come. >> and plus, labour says it will rewrite britain's brexit deal if it comes to power. that's certainly one to watch. we found out what keir starmer is planning. but first, here's your news headlines with lisa hoddle i >> -- >> good afternoon. it's just after 12:00. i'm lisa hartle in the newsroom. bbc channel 4 and

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