in their suspended or restricted in their duties, i'm asking you, do you still consent to being policed the way we are.7 and a crucial and unprecedented legal fight began today between the scottish government and westminster. the stakes , let me tell you, are stakes, let me tell you, are high. it centres ultimately around the fact of whether or not a 16 year old should be legally able to change their gender and how easy that should be. sir, your thoughts and don't shoot the messenger . i be. sir, your thoughts and don't shoot the messenger. i can hear you now. i do like to debate things. so i'm wondering when it comes to the mess of property in this country and who can afford it? this country and who can afford it.7 capital gains tax on our primary residence ounces, our homes. should we have to pay tax or not.7 all of that to come and more. but first, let's grab tonight's latest headlines as. michelle, thank you . michelle, thank you. >> good evening. well, the top story this evening is that the

head of channel 4 television says there's no evidence to suggest its management were told of serious allegations concerning russell brand . that concerning russell brand. that comes after the bbc announced a review of the comedian's time at the corporation and the metropolitan police yesterday confirmed it had received reports of an alleged assault , reports of an alleged assault, but due to have taken place in 2003, four other allegations of rape or sexual assault were published as part of a joint investigation by the sunday times and channel 4 for mr brand denies all allegations . as now denies all allegations. as now emergency measures are being put in place and commissioners will be appointed to take over the day to day running of birmingham city council . there'll also be city council. there'll also be a local inquiry into the authority after it was declared effectively bankrupt. it's now facing a growing equal pay liability of around £1 billion and an £87 million financial gap.the and an £87 million financial gap. the communities secretary, michael gove , says today's michael gove, says today's action is aimed at protecting the interests of residents . this

the interests of residents. this the interests of residents. this the home office is paying around £8 million a day for asylum seekers to be put up in hotels, according to new figures. the department's annual report says small boat arrivals across the channel are placing an unsub attainable. pressure on our asylum system and costing more than £3 billion a year. labour says the cost of hotel accommodation has gone up by a third since rishi sunak promised to end hotel use . downing street to end hotel use. downing street says the bma's members could step back from industrial action this week that says rules ensure a minimum level of cover in hospitals could be extended . hospitals could be extended. under the government's proposal. doctors and nurses would be required to maintain necessary and safe levels of service consultants. in england are striking for 48 hours today over pay ' striking for 48 hours today over pay , with junior doctors joining pay, with junior doctors joining them tomorrow and picketing until friday. well, the health secretary, steve barclay , told

secretary, steve barclay, told gb news earlier minimum service levels protect patients . levels protect patients. >> how do we get the balance right .7 how do we protect those right.7 how do we protect those time critical services? we've got primary legislation now in place and we're going to look at how that applies in hospitals. so that we can ensure things like chemotherapy are not disrupted by strikes and really make sure we're protecting patients. so that's what we're consulting on. we want to get that balance right. it is important people's right to strike and we respect that . strike and we respect that. >> the government's facing criticism for its decision to give avanti west coast a new long term contract. the department for transport has announced the train operator will continue to run services on the west coast main line for at least three years. that line runs from london to glasgow through birmingham , liverpool through birmingham, liverpool and manchester and edinburgh as well. and that's despite the company having the second worst performer records in the country on the railways . weaver vale mp

on the railways. weaver vale mp mike amesbury said the decision is nonsense. >> it seems that this contract has been rewarded on the basis that it's a little less crap than it used to be. is that is that really is that really the way to make a decision in, in government? it's appalling . this government? it's appalling. this is ideologically dogmatically dnven. is ideologically dogmatically driven . it's a nonsense . driven. it's a nonsense. >> the number of schools in england where crumble prone concrete has been found has risen to 174. it's after hundreds of surveys have been carried out in schools across england to determine the extent of the problem . a number of of the problem. a number of schools were forced to fully or partially close just days before the start of term , nearly 250 the start of term, nearly 250 temporary classrooms were put on order to cope with the crisis. but the shadow education secretary, bridget phillipson, says it's a shambles . is now the says it's a shambles. is now the financial conduct authority has concluded there's no evidence that banks close the accounts of customers because of their

political views. it follows the closure of nigel farages account by coots, a freedom of information request by the gb news presenter revealed that internal memos at the bank deemed his views incorrect assistant with its position as an inclusive organisation. the telegraph says his account wasn't included in the fca's report. mr farage has branded the outcome of the review a joke. this is a farce and frankly it shows me something the people at the top of the fca are deeply political themselves. >> think of sheldon mills , the >> think of sheldon mills, the executive director of stonewall. he of endless political campaigns on gender and much else . and when you ask a group else. and when you ask a group of biased people to examine bias , don't be surprised when they don't find anything . don't find anything. >> sir keir starmer is in paris discussing post—brexit relations with the french president , with the french president, emmanuel macron, the labour leader says he wants to secure a

much better deal for the uk by reassessing trading ties with the bloc. the current trade deal signed by boris johnson faces its first five year review in 2025. sir keir says the uk's relationship with france is important on a national security level . this is gb news across level. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel >> thanks for that, polly. well i am michelle dewberry and i'm with you till 7:00 alongside with you till 7:00 alongside with the former conservative mep and life peer in the house of lords, baroness jacqueline foster , and the contributing foster, and the contributing editor at novara media, michael walker. good evening to both of you. oh, you're sitting very far away from me today . let's get a away from me today. let's get a train ticket to come and see you. i think during this programme. you know the drill, don't you? on dewbs& co it's not

just about us three. it is very much about guys at home as much about you guys at home as well. what's your mind well. what's on your mind tonight? graham says . michelle, tonight? graham says. michelle, have since we have you been ordained since we last you? and mitchell is last saw you? and mitchell is asking why come to work asking why i've come to work dressed cardinal tonight . i dressed as a cardinal tonight. i don't know what to say. fashion darlings, fashion. anyway what's coming up tonight? i want to talk to you about the massive i would say it's really crucial legal battle that started today between scotland, westminster, all about this gender reform situation , whether or not 16 situation, whether or not 16 year olds should easily be able to change their gender crucial topic, if you ask me. also flirting an idea don't get all offended. don't start getting in touch saying who do i think i am and all the rest of it? but looking for solutions to what is going on with the housing situation in this country. capital gains tax. do you think our our primary our homes, our primary residences exempt from residences should be exempt from it or not? let's get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com or can vaiews@gbnews.com or you can tweet me news. but let's tweet me at gb news. but let's kick off tonight with a double doctor strike. yes, consulting some junior doctors in england

are staging their first ever joint strike. this is the first joint strike. this is the first joint strike. this is the first joint strike of this kind in the history of the nhs . this strike, history of the nhs. this strike, as you might be familiar with by now, will last two days. the one by the junior doctors is scheduled hold about for three days now. jacqueline lots of people on the side of the doctor , his consultants and all the rest of it saying pay them what they're worth . on the other side they're worth. on the other side of this argument is, hang on just a nanosecond coordinated strikes and all the rest of it. we've got waiting lists as long as our arms it stands. where as our arms as it stands. where are it? all are you on it? all >> well, i think this has gone beyond just what you would hear as a normal negotiation. i mean, the the bma, i mean, an the fact the bma, i mean, an organisation that is supposedly representing these professionals tells puts in a pay claim for 35, which is ludicrous and then tries to say it's worked it out on retrospective of increases in over a number of years is beyond

me as a former trade union negotiator, i certainly you know we went for good deals but i mean this is nonsense. the fact now that the i mean, this is really about it's just an anti—tory this is about this is having a go at the government at. and i have friends who are in the medical profession and they are excellent. we've got some great doctors. we've got some great doctors. we've got some great doctors. we've got some great nurses, we've got some great nurses, we've got some great nurses, we've got some great staff. but at the end of day, you go into medicine of the day, you go into medicine and you are there to your primary purpose is look after primary purpose is to look after your patient . so i for fully your patient. so i for fully support having what we're trying to do is to get a sort of a minimum standards. if people are looking at industrial disputes , looking at industrial disputes, minimum standards in place, which they have across europe and across the world, but this sort of calling action like this and also with the junior doctors, we have more than 7 million people on waiting lists. they're argument is, oh, this is about patient safety. we've got

people on these waiting lists and they're dying. they're dying . and as soon as you actually have action, then of course, what you're doing is you're adding to this waiting list because going because they're then going to not able operate or not not being able to operate or not being to see the patients. being able to see the patients. it's dreadful. being able to see the patients. it's dreisiful. being able to see the patients. it's dreis this an out of control >> so is this an out of control union bashing the tories union that's bashing the tories at expense of patient at the expense of patient safety? michael also safety? michael no, i'm also interested in idea that interested in this idea that they're representing they're supposedly representing they're supposedly representing the . the workers. >> there have been >> i mean, there have been overwhelming favour of overwhelming votes in favour of these think that these strikes, and i think that is particularly mysterious is not particularly mysterious why has why that's happened. pay has been by 17% since 2010. now, been cut by 17% since 2010. now, if you cut a profession's by if you cut a profession's pay by 17, you can't really expect them to just take that lying down. and really don't envy the and i really don't envy the position that doctors find themselves in, because if i were to go on strike, what would happen? would be happen? my youtube show would be down days. i wouldn't down for two days. i wouldn't have have much of a moral have to have too much of a moral dilemma about it. if your dilemma about it. but if your job save the lives of job is to save the lives of patients, yes, you are in a patients, then yes, you are in a really difficult situation. do you stand for your rights and you stand up for your rights and to a very significant pay to resist a very significant pay cut over a long period time? cut over a long period of time? or go into work and

or do you go into work and i don't envy that. i suppose don't envy that. and i suppose the they've come out the compromise they've come out with is there will a minimum with is there will be a minimum service. it's going be service. so it's going to be christmas day cover what christmas day cover is what they're so it will they're calling it. so it will be hold on, everyone. be like, hold on, everyone. >> if you are about to have a heart potentially die, heart attack or potentially die, do try and hold off. weren't you for, know, kind of for, you know, the kind of service that you get on christmas day? and if anyone's had going to had the misfortune of going to hospitals, in hospital for hospitals, i was in hospital for a month, know, and in that a month, you know, and in that penod a month, you know, and in that period we things like period we had things like weekends, christmas weekends, never mind christmas day i day and bank holidays. i remember weekends as the of remember weekends as the kind of cover of access to cover and the kind of access to the that you needed the consultants that you needed dunng the consultants that you needed during was completely during a weekend was completely reduced. well, i don't think >> yeah, well, i don't think anyone's this anyone's going to deny this isn't to patient. isn't going to impact patient. so i suppose what doctors would say is what been say is that what has been impacting the past impacting patients for the past 12 years now is underfunding of the nhs and especially since the covid crisis whereby we all went out clapped for these out and we all clapped for these people and said, oh, i mean i really think there was a bit of an implicit sort of pledge to say will you. what you say we will value you. what you are after while we're are worth after this while we're locked you are locked in our homes, you are going out there basically to a

war zone, which our war zone, which is our hospitals. and don't worry, we will you afterwards. will reward you afterwards. instead, have said? instead, what have we said? oh, actually, accept pay actually, you need to accept pay cuts. you're greedy. shut up. stop the stop taking strike. you're the people endangering patients. it seems a little bit disrespectful to i don't think that's the >> i don't think that's the attitude all. it's been attitude at all. it's been taken. take a realistic taken. we take a realistic attitude. look attitude. you also have to look attitude. you also have to look at some the problems in the at some of the problems in the nhs. we've just one of the nhs. we've just had. one of the worst is on child killing, worst cases is on child killing, baby murdering that we've had in history this country. my own history in this country. my own mother back 20 years mother and going back 20 years died of negligence. now you know, round , you know the know, in the round, you know the amount of money they have to have in budget because have in the budget because they're medical they're looking at medical negligence. just negligence. and this isn't just recent. know, whole recent. so, you know, this whole nhs needs to be, in my view , nhs needs to be, in my view, needs absolutely so needs absolutely reforming. so so, you know, we have the police when you when you're working on the frontline, have the frontline, we have the police, have armed forces police, we have the armed forces , expect them to there 24 , we expect them to be there 24 over seven. and it's laughable when they say, you know, well, we can have christmas day cover, christmas day cover day. think christmas day cover day. i think michelle's spot on michelle's absolutely spot on because you've got people , a because now you've got people, a lot doctors who've wanted lot of doctors who've wanted to

go in and work and then the hospital actually or the union is saying oh, don't is saying to them, oh, don't tell them, though, what day is saying to them, oh, don't tell th going ough, what day is saying to them, oh, don't tell th going to gh, what day is saying to them, oh, don't tell th going to gh, wrin,day is saying to them, oh, don't tell th going to gh, wrin, because you're going to come in, because what they're doing is they're trying find the trying to go in, then find the list been scrubbed for their list has been scrubbed for their surgery fact. so surgery and that's a fact. so this isn't just straightforward. this isn't just terms this isn't just about terms and conditions. is much wider. conditions. this is much wider. and going do the same and they're going to do the same on the first week in october. apparently support do >> would you support that? do you? where's the end point for you? where's the end point for you? do you support like guys, do what you can all tag do you know what you can all tag team. you can all on team. you can all go on your joint long as it joint strikes for as long as it takes until you get your 35% pay restoration. >> well, i don't think anyone is suggesting that right. so i think it's pretty clear that the 35% an opening offer. 35% demand was an opening offer. i know for the consultants, they've want a i know for the consultants, th not e want a i know for the consultants, th not a want a i know for the consultants, th not a real want a i know for the consultants, th not a real terms want a i know for the consultants, th not a real terms payant a i know for the consultants, th not a real terms pay cut. a i know for the consultants, th not a real terms pay cut. so is not a real terms pay cut. so at the moment they're being offered 6. inflation is currently after a 17% currently 6.8. so after a 17% pay currently 6.8. so after a 17% pay cut over 12 years, after working like dogs throughout the covid crisis, they are being asked to accept another pay cut and you can see why that is deemed offensive by people who

are working incredibly hard to save lives. as i say, i don't think this is a difficult, an easy decision. sorry for them to make, is why i really make, which is why i really don't them. i think they're don't envy them. i think they're in a impossible situation. >> you would support the >> so you would support the decision. would support them decision. you would support them keeping going and keeping going, keeping going? >> well, i would support the government going into the government going back into the negotiating don't think government going back into the negotibarclay don't think government going back into the negotibarclay has don't think government going back into the negotibarclay has spokenthink steve barclay has spoken to these people hundred days. these people for a hundred days. >> that's the >> but if that's the government's position, as the government's position, as the government said, right, you know what, up with what, we've come up with a position and all the position that's fair and all the rest our final offer. >> but they don't think it is fair, right? so i mean, that's the whole disagreement. why why is government that is it that the government that get say, sorry, negotiations get to say, sorry, negotiations are over, this is our final offer the doctors haven't offer if the doctors haven't accepted then the accepted that, then the government to government are going to have to come the negotiating come back into the negotiating responsibility to look after the pubuc responsibility to look after the public the taxpayer. where do >> it's the taxpayer. where do they going to come they think 35% is going to come from? going to be coming from? it's going to be coming from? it's going to be coming from the nhs budget. it can't come somewhere else, gordon says. >> why should get >> why should doctors get a bigger% pay increase than that's ludicrous? yes bigger% pay increase than that's lud sous? yes bigger% pay increase than that's lud so the yes bigger% pay increase than that's lud so the nurses issue is very >> so the nurses issue is very interesting. now i know number >> so the nurses issue is very intnursesg. now i know number >> so the nurses issue is very intnurses and)w i know number >> so the nurses issue is very intnurses and)vthink)w number >> so the nurses issue is very

intnurses and)vthink that number >> so the nurses issue is very intnurses and)vthink that was ber of nurses and i think that was actually quite unfortunate the way unfolded. and the way that unfolded. and the reason say because reason i say that is because lots of nurses are very, very upset that offer was upset that that offer was accepted in end. basically accepted in the end. basically there between the there was a division between the various unions and the various nursing unions and the royal nurses did royal college of nurses did reject but a number reject the offer, but a number of unions accepted it. of other unions accepted it. now, you could from the now, you could say from the government's that's now, you could say from the givictory. ent's that's now, you could say from the givictory. ent's you've that's now, you could say from the givictory.ent's you've defeated; a victory. okay, you've defeated the accepted the workforce, they've accepted this i the idea this pay rise. i think the idea that celebrating the that we are celebrating the demoralising of our nurses is , demoralising of our nurses is, is somewhat that's not what god. >> and ask gordon was just asking why should they get why should entitled to more should they be entitled to more of a percentage increase than the nurses bearing in mind. well i think all already out earn these nurses by a country mile. >> well, think the nurses >> well, i think the nurses should got a more. and should have got a lot more. and i think it's difficult to say that because one nurse union accepted this. the doctors have to want. to accept what they don't want. >> viewers, he says, >> my other viewers, he says, i'll this one to you, i'll put this one to you, jacqueline. you allow jacqueline. if you don't allow doctors striking to get doctors to keep striking to get what want, then fair what they want, then fair enough. but you're just going to force their pay in a global force down their pay in a global marketplace force down their pay in a global marketplhappen. michelle is in

that will happen. michelle is in a few years or so, people will just nhs and move just leave the nhs and move abroad. just leave the nhs and move abrwell, you've also got to look >> well, you've also got to look at the cost of training. while medical students do pay a proportion, also, the proportion, we also, as the taxpayer, recognising length proportion, we also, as the ta1a ayer, recognising length proportion, we also, as the ta1a degree,:ognising length proportion, we also, as the ta1a degree,:ogrand; length proportion, we also, as the ta1a degree,:ogrand make .ength proportion, we also, as the ta1a degree,:ogrand make sureh of a degree, try and make sure that funded them that that is funded for them because actually quite because it's actually quite difficult expensive. difficult and quite expensive. so doesn't work like that. we so it doesn't work like that. we have chosen to have a national health it's one of the health service. it's one of the only ones the entire only ones in the entire world because you're at the because if you're looking at the continent, australia many continent, australia and many other 95% of that pie other places, 95% of that pie will be private insurance and then will have a sort of a then they will have a sort of a mini nhs for about five. >> and last viewer point, lots of my viewers are saying surely these people go into professions to save lives, not to end top dollar. david is basically saying , isn't this convenient saying, isn't this convenient for some doctors all these striking because it presents them with the opportunity to top up work in the private up their work in the private sector and then top dollar. >> sure if that is the >> i'm not sure if that is the case if that is happening. i case or if that is happening. i mean, a doctor. mean, my sister's a doctor. she's not doing that. she's definitely not doing that. >> she in what? sorry, >> so is she in what? sorry, what field is she in? she is. >> she works with adults with

learning difficulties . learning difficulties. >> so she wouldn't necessarily have private practise so maybe >> so she wouldn't necessarily hav> so she wouldn't necessarily hav> so she wouldn't necessarily hav> i mean, she doesn't do any private work. actually. she's she's currently on maternity leave because she's had a new baby. element of many can do >> so an element of many can do some private work, too, which i don't the way. don't criticise, by the way. >> you know what it's >> well, do you know what it's a conversation that certainly divides people. know, divides people. you know, whichever side of the fence you're on, surely we all do actually want these people to be there, to be focussed, to be motivated giving us the best motivated and giving us the best care possible. but how do we achieve is the point. achieve that? that is the point. i rumble on and i think that will rumble on and on. the break, i want to on. after the break, i want to talk to you about policing in this country. we have a very simple that police simple concept that police by consent, with consent, i'm asking you, with a state of many things in the police situation, special measures here, people being off, suspended there for bad behaviour. do you still consent to being policed? the way

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alongside me. i've got the former conservative mep and life peerin former conservative mep and life peer in the house of lords, baroness jacqueline foster, and the contributing editor at novara media, michael walker . novara media, michael walker. matthews just tweeted me saying , please, can you move jacqueline's pals ? they're jacqueline's pals? they're banging on a microphone. we listen to you. thank you for flagging that . we've sorted out flagging that. we've sorted out our pals and shall now move our pals and we shall now move on. lots of getting in touch on. lots of you getting in touch about that situation, about the strikes. were debating about that situation, about the strikes. or were debating about that situation, about the strikes. or not were debating about that situation, about the strikes. or not it'sere debating about that situation, about the strikes. or not it's perhapsting whether or not it's perhaps political. tony says how come then doctors scotland then the doctors in scotland accepted the offer? how come it's there acceptable it's fair there and acceptable there, it's not here. keith there, but it's not here. keith has been in touch and said, michelle, i am a consult agent and i have to say i deplore these strikes and i have made my feelings known among his workplace , he said. your guest workplace, he said. your guest who says a 17% cut, is speaking . tosh. he's talking to you. he said he is using the high rate of inflationary year. as for pay cuts, i am ashamed to say i know consulting mates who do want the strikes to continue so that they can make the most of their prime

practises. i'm not sure it's the consumer price index of inflation from 2010 that was in the bbc article. >> i'm not sure what what what figure he thinks. >> he says you're speaking tosh. he's consultant . michael says he's a consultant. michael says he might not be statistician . he might not be a statistician. >> know never negotiated like >> know we never negotiated like that, . that, though. >> know. i mean, i do >> well, i know. i mean, i do think pull these kind of think we pull these kind of rabbits a hat. rabbits out of a hat. >> yeah, like unique kind of. we pick the best case months and days and years and all the rest of sometimes to make of it sometimes to make a statistic meet arguments, statistic meet our arguments, perhaps some people might suggest . anyway. do you know suggest. anyway. do you know what? as i said, that one will rumble on and on. but respect to you, keith, because sometimes it is easy to think that everyone in supporting one or in is supporting one side or another. of course, as a consultant yourself, it's interesting to know that that feeling among feeling is certainly not among your the your colleagues. always the case. let's talk policing, though, shall we? because the met is, of course, our met police is, of course, our country's biggest force . they country's biggest force. they have got 1000 officers currently are either suspended or what they call on restricted duties.

in the past two years as well, there's been six police forces that have been put into special measures as this whole kind of in this country. this notion we have a respectful policing by consent principle . it only consent principle. it only really works if everyone buys into it. and i'm starting to wonder, you know, you've got conviction rates going down the pan. you can't get a call out or people taking you seriously if you've been burgled or whatever . special measures here, there and everywhere . are police and everywhere. are police officers suspended , some of officers suspended, some of them, for doing absolutely horrendous things. and know horrendous things. and we know some cases as well where some of the cases as well where they've not just been suspended, they've not just been suspended, they've prison. do they've been sent to prison. do you think in this country, do you, for example, still consent to in the way to policing in the way it's being done? >> think what's >> well, i think what's interesting that is it interesting about that is it really depend you are. really does depend who you are. so talking about so we're talking now about how the police are losing consent among population . i among the general population. i mean, of mean, there are sections of the population they population who you know, they haven't had consent for a very long time. so britain's black communities, working class people in care, for example, have time going

have had a terrible time going to the police when it comes to sexual assault and the like. so there people for there are many people who for a long haven't had confidence long time haven't had confidence in the police and it is in the police and now it is becoming generalised and i think that because we realising that is because we are realising the the rot. now you the extent of the rot. now you said there a thousand people currently from their said there a thousand people currenduties from their said there a thousand people curren duties because rom their usual duties because they're under investigation. that's 1 in 34 the metropolitan 34 officers in the metropolitan police. what i find even police. and what i find even more of those, more shocking, 450 of those, that's sexual offences and that's for sexual offences and domestic so obviously domestic violence. so obviously there is a lot of scrutiny on there is a lot of scrutiny on the metropolitan police for institutional because the metropolitan police for institu two al because the metropolitan police for institu two horrific because the metropolitan police for institu two horrific cases acause the metropolitan police for institu two horrific cases of use of the two horrific cases of david carrick and wayne couzens. and suggests is and what this is suggests is that this is a really widespread problem . that this is a really widespread pro um, . you know, my heart >> um, and you know, my heart goes to because goes out to people because domestic violence in itself, you know, the best of times know, at the best of times absolutely horrendous. but if your husband is the one perpetrating this and he is perpetrating this and then he is a police i mean, you a police officer, i mean, you must feel absolutely lost and hopeless because he's the hopeless because if he's the people you're supposed to people that you're supposed to tend i mean, goodness tend to, i mean, goodness gracious me. but on the more broader point of policing by consent, broader point of policing by conwell, obviously, i want to >> well, obviously, i want to carry policing. consent, carry on policing. by consent, i mean, got to look, we've

mean, we've got to look, we've got some bad apples here in a barrel. and the vast majority, a lot apples, 1 in 30 tens lot of bad apples, 1 in 30 tens of thousands police , the vast of thousands of police, the vast majority of the police are are excellent. the first excellent. they're the first people when we dial 999, people that we when we dial 999, whatever the circum stances, we hope that they're going to turn up do. but we clearly up and they do. but we clearly there some is an issue there is some there is an issue here. it's not just the met. i think it's also with we've had issues with greater manchester police and i think police and others and i think we've got to just take a wider view on here because it seems to me also when you're looking at recruitment and you know , the recruitment and you know, the question is i was actually to talking a couple of met officers today because i thought i'd asked them myself. some had been you know, one had been in for a long and he'd trained long time and he'd trained originally at hendon. and of course, of course, hendon was the sort of the great training school where our officers came out and our police officers came out and phd, and that's sort of gone by the over the last years . in the by over the last years. in addition, i think they've clearly, when they were trying to bring lot police to bring a lot more police officers in, i don't think that they were doing due diligence s

on a number of these people. i mean, they have even found that they've people who've had they've had people who've had a criminal record down the line. but other point is the time but the other point is the time it's taken when people are suspended, whether gross suspended, whether it's gross negligence whatever may negligence or whatever it may be, actually process this. be, to actually process this. we've officers who are at we've got officers who are at home for two years now . now, home for two years now. now, they may not be guilty at the end of it, but this isn't acceptable. and another point i'd like raise is why i'd just like to raise is why don't we see why is there no encouragement anymore? and it hasn't more than 20 hasn't happened for more than 20 years of people who are ex—military. into the ex—military. we going into the police force, it was the police force, as it was the ex—military ran ex—military that pretty well ran the post—war many of the the prisons post—war many of the police force. and these were fit people. they'd been in very difficult circumstances, can deal with things. i deal with difficult things. i mean , they seem to have been not mean, they seem to have been not not looked at them at all over the last years. and i'm not sure whether that's been sort of policy. >> we'll get in touch with you. so are. so there we are. >> are you ex—military? have you ever considered going the ever considered going into the police jacqueline's ever considered going into the policeis jacqueline's ever considered going into the policeis quite jacqueline's ever considered going into the policeis quite jacqueone. s ever considered going into the policeis quite jacqueone. i'm point is quite a good one. i'm sure there's quite a good fit there. i don't know. have you

tried have you been rejected? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat'ou been rejected? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat be been rejected? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat be your rejected? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat be your thingted? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat be your thing or? there. i don't know. have you tried hthat be your thing or not? would that be your thing or not? lots getting in touch lots of people getting in touch about this topic and i have to say that yet again, you do have very different opinions because say that yet again, you do have very csorry nt opinions because say that yet again, you do have very csorry for>pinions because say that yet again, you do have very csorry for people because say that yet again, you do have very csorry for people beciare i feel sorry for people that are serving officers that are serving police officers that are good, i don't feel good, decent ones. i don't feel sorry bad apples, sorry for the bad apples, obviously, the good decent obviously, but the good decent ones put your life ones because you put your life ones because you put your life on know, if you on the line, you know, if you work in emergency response, you get called goodness only get 999 called goodness only knows can with knows what you can be met with at the end of it. you've probably got families your probably got families of your own you know, your own at home. you know, your mom's must be worried sick about every you leave for work. every time you leave for work. are going come home are you ever going to come home again? and all the rest of it? so these people real kind of so these people are real kind of heroes, heroic all the heroes, heroic work and all the rest it, brian says 99.9% of rest of it, brian says 99.9% of our police are good people. for goodness stop goodness sake, will you all stop doing them down? how do you maintain morale when there is this of people this attitude of people undermining police often? undermining the police often? >> well, i suppose just as i was saying when we were talking about doctors, they're in a position don't envy. right. position i don't envy. right. they're incredibly they're doing an incredibly difficult comes to difficult job when it comes to doctors. accepting doctors. they're accepting pay cuts it comes to the

cuts when it comes to the police. home and police. they're going home and seeing these awful seeing all of these awful headlines. suppose going headlines. now, i suppose going back said back to statistics, someone said 99.9% good people. 99.9% of them are good people. now, it comes the now, when it comes to the metropolitan police, 1 in 34 of them be under them seem to be under investigation for some of investigation for some kind of offence. so does seem to be offence. so it does seem to be more than 0.1% people who more than 0.1% of people who have problem . the other thing have a problem. the other thing i really need to be i think we really need to be concerned so i concerned about, so i was speaking to a recently who speaking to a lady recently who had the police sort of had joined the police sort of serve a couple of years and had joined the police sort of serveendedcouple of years and had joined the police sort of serveended up ple of years and had joined the police sort of serveended up leavingears and had joined the police sort of serveended up leaving because then ended up leaving because she by the levels she was so shocked by the levels of misogyny and racism and the problem there is you can have a sort reinforcing sort of self reinforcing situation people who situation where good people who want to join the police are so outraged what see that outraged at what they see that they so it's easier to they leave. so it's easier to remain in the police you're remain in the police if you're a wrong'un. say wrong'un. now that's not to say the majority are wrong'uns, but there something seriously there is something seriously going has been in touch and >> phil has been in touch and says, retired chief says, i am a retired chief inspector slash dci and he says i am appalled at the way that many things have gone. says many things have gone. he says there's massively policies there's massively work policies now. things like, police there's massively work policies now not things like, police there's massively work policies now not involved ngs like, police there's massively work policies now not involved ins like, police there's massively work policies now not involved in the e, police are not involved in the recruiting process any he recruiting process any more. he says had police says that you've had police training centres is closed down

and he says as well very few officers now actually want to go out and patrol the streets. angela she says the thing that's going wrong is all these targets . if we take all the targets out of policing, we might just get our police force back to actually just cracking on and policing people. ken says. i've always supported the police in spite of much bad publicity . spite of much bad publicity. what you're saying is you think the main problem is that the police stations are not open 24 hours a day. all of them, and that many of them are getting closed down. he says it would be nice to see more officers walking the beat so you can actually get to know your local police officer. i remember actually the last time i saw a police officer around my parts. can you you tell me anyway, if you do want to be patrolling on the beat, if you want to be wandering the streets, you need nice weather. whether nice weather. let's see whether or you're to get it. or not you're going to get it. >> that warm feeling from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

weather on. gb news. >> hello again, i'm alex burkill and welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. we do have some further wet and perhaps thundery weather on the way with some strong winds to the a very tightly the isobars, a very tightly packed the moment which just packed at the moment which just illustrates that it is so blustery , so windy the moment blustery, so windy at the moment and pressure arriving, and low pressure arriving, bringing further wet bringing some further wet weather to many parts as well as weather to many parts as well as we go through the end of today. and overnight, going to and overnight, we are going to have heavy bursts of rain, have some heavy bursts of rain, particularly across parts of scotland. warning in scotland. there is a warning in force also some further force here and also some further heavy of western heavy rainfall. parts of western england and wales also are warning in here. warning in force here. temperatures well , it temperatures for many well, it is going to be a mild start on wednesday morning, though may is going to be a mild start on we(feeliay morning, though may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it/ morning, though may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it because 3, though may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it because of:hough may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it because of the gh may not feel it because of the unsettled weather . a band of unsettled weather. a band of rain then going push its rain then is going to push its way eastwards of way eastwards across parts of england and wales in particular with as go with some heavy bursts as we go through day , reaching parts through the day, reaching parts of into the of the south—east into the afternoon, some brighter skies across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but also a feed of showers coming in. and

some these could heavy and some of these could be heavy and thundery should thundery temperatures should just to highs of just about get to highs of around the around 20 celsius in the south—east. but in the wind and the rain it's going to feel the rain, it's not going to feel as as that. that rain will as warm as that. that rain will eventually clear through as we go wednesday night into go through wednesday night into thursday. start thursday. so a brighter start for thursday. but for many places on thursday. but again, going see again, we are going to see plenty showers and also some plenty of showers and also some heavy showery rain feeding into western of scotland in western parts of scotland in particular with the risk of some thunder. there will be some further unsettled weather through week, but through the end of the week, but perhaps something a bit drier to start saturday. >> that feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news jane's been weather on. gb news jane's been in touch, so my husband was ex—military. >> he did join the police, but he left very quickly having seen how it was run . lagos, simon how it was run. lagos, simon said. the thing is , michel, this said. the thing is, michel, this is not just the police. there's no respect anymore for authority figures right across society. he goes on to say that he is fed up of feeling like he's paying much

higher taxes for much lower standard of service . pretty standard of service. pretty much, absolutely. every sector that you try and get a hold of these days, jim says , juburi, these days, jim says, juburi, please, will you wind your neck in? he's talking about well, he could be talking about anything, quite frankly, but he's talking about one of the topics that i want to get to before the end of the program. just a conversation. just a debate looking at how to potentially fix the housing in fix the housing situation in this country . capital fix the housing situation in this country. capital gains tax, your home is exempt from it, but many people are making absolute fortunes on their own property. should we have to pay capital gains tax or not? jim's having not any of it and tells me to packitin not any of it and tells me to pack it in despite what you're trying to get people to pay more tax. it's all the debate. jim, stick with me.

listening to gb news radio. >> hi there, michel . al—juburi >> hi there, michel. al—juburi keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. alongside me, baroness jacqueline foster and michael walker remain june. my view has

beenin walker remain june. my view has been in touch. so michelle, get a life. i must say i'm very disappointed in you. what is she talking about? you might be wondering if you just tuned in. she's talking about a debate. i'm going to have before the end of the programme about capital gains tax your you're gains tax on your home. you're livid tonight. know what? livid tonight. you know what? it's debate. we're just it's just a debate. we're just throwing out there. that's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe out there. that's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. ut there. that's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. tell1ere. that's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. tell me. that's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. tell me if hat's it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. tell me if you; it's just a debate. we're just throwwe do. tell me if you agree what we do. tell me if you agree with that proposal or not. lots of you getting in touch about that suggestion about ex—military people into that suggestion about ex—policey people into that suggestion about ex—police force. )le into that suggestion about ex—police force. many into that suggestion about ex—police force. many of into that suggestion about ex—police force. many of you the police force. many of you have touch to say have been in touch to say michelle, problem is that have been in touch to say michedays problem is that have been in touch to say miche days you roblem is that have been in touch to say miche days you needn is that have been in touch to say miche days you need a is that have been in touch to say michedays you need a degree to these days you need a degree to be police officer. and lots of be a police officer. and lots of people have been in touch to say you've left military, but you've left the military, but you've left the military, but you have a degree. you don't have a degree. so apparently police want apparently the police don't want to that's right. to touch you, if that's right. what a shame. um, i would say what quite frankly. what a mistake. quite frankly. anyway, there's a very anyway, look, there's a very pressing in pressing matter. i think, in society, very one. society, a very important one. certainly to as a mum, to certainly to me as a mum, to many of you parents, many of you as parents, grandparents, whatever, and it's all the issue of gender. all about the issue of gender. now, the gender recognition reform bill is a big day today,

right? because it's a big legal bill. it'll has commenced, if you like, between scotland island's government and west minster. you might remember that they'd gone through the process overin they'd gone through the process over in scotland about kind of tweaking the gender reform bill and they got it all the way through. there was about to try and granted royal assent and westminster swooped in and for the actually i think the first time actually i think perhaps devolution in perhaps since devolution in westminster what they westminster issued what they call section 35, basically to call a section 35, basically to stop it. there was a harsh reaction to that. let's just have a little listen, remind ourselves of the scottish social justice secretary, what she had to say about that , the gender to say about that, the gender recognition reform bill, which was passed with an overwhelming majority from proceeding to royal assent, is a dark day for trans rights and a dark day for democracy. >> well , there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> dark, deaf, trans rights, dark day for democracy. 16 year old's been able to very easily say that they are now a different gender and that being legally where are you

legally respected. where are you on that? >> well, it's a dark day for child abuse in my my view. child abuse in my in my view. children at 16, you wait to get married. when you're 18, you can married. when you're18, you can join or go on the join the military or go on the front line at 18, 18 is sort front line at 18, 18 is the sort of age that is generally accepted when we when we look across the peace in the united kingdom , one of the other issues kingdom, one of the other issues here wasn't just about the fact that they were dropping this as low as 16 and perhaps lower than thatis low as 16 and perhaps lower than that is that children that did wish to change and maybe wish to change gender and maybe go path to trans transition go on a path to trans transition or whatever, could not notify the parent, the parents need not necessarily have known . they necessarily have known. they need not necessarily have had any sort of treatment at all from , you know, medics. we know from, you know, medics. we know for a fact about 90% of these young people will have issues with mental health issues. so this is a really complex issue. i think what was a huge concern is the fact that the uk government had to step in here and to not allow this to go into statute because it was then

conflict with what we do in england, wales and everywhere else was the right thing to do. >> so just to recap then, so there was swinging and throwing in scotland about some of this nuance and all the rest. it took them about five years to reach a point where there was ready to vote on it when they voted in scotland, they basically voted. 86 majority, 86 votes to 86 was the majority, 86 votes to 39 against basically . now, just 39 against basically. now, just if you're not familiar with this, you might think, what is this, you might think, what is this all about? well what they wanted to try to and achieve, they wanted to remove the need for medical diagnosis of for a medical diagnosis of gender order to gender dysphoria in order to help on your with help you on your way with a gender recognition certificate. so remove the so you're going to remove the medicalisation this lower the medicalisation of this lower the minimum wage to 16 in now, all you have to do basically was live in your acquired gender. it was up to three months in some cases, you had to just live as that gender. if you're six months, if you're 16 and 17, i mean, i'm really concerned about this stuff . michael, are you or

not? >> i mean, i think there are often arguments on both sides with these issues. but i do think , you know, some of these think, you know, some of these reactions seem a little bit out of proportion to me, the idea that is child abuse. right. that this is child abuse. right. so would gender reform mean so what would gender reform mean right been looking right now? i've been looking at what reform what do these gender reform certificates now? certificates get you now? all that is your birth that they change is your birth certificate, which changes your marriage certificate and which changes certificate. changes your death certificate. now, that's all it changes. so it is people who want to get married and want to have on their form their acquired gender instead gender that they instead of the gender that they were into . now, it were were born into. now, it doesn't seem to that that doesn't seem to me that that causes of a threat to them causes much of a threat to them or anyone else. >> the legal >> it's the legal technicalities, it? technicalities, isn't it? there's a but that's what to it than up for debate than that. what's up for debate here legal technicalities. >> i think it is very important to separate the different concerns people might so concerns people might have. so this gender recognition. so, for example, perfectly example, i think it's perfectly legitimate for people to have concerns or elite concerns about prisons or elite sports. but this gender recognition certificate has nothing things. nothing to do with those things. >> know, i mean , you >> darlene you know, i mean, you look at young kids, you know, >> darlene you know, i mean, you lookminute1g kids, you know, >> darlene you know, i mean, you lookminute1g kirwantu know, >> darlene you know, i mean, you lookminute1g kirwant to znow, >> darlene you know, i mean, you lookminute1g kirwant to be n, one minute they want to be

rocket and the next thing rocket man and the next thing they want to, you know, dance around in a ballerina dress. you human nature and puberty. puberty is difficult for most of the time. and the trouble is now what we have is where children went through all sorts of emotions and hormone changes through their teenage years. and people didn't overreact about it. they didn't try and park them in some sort of box somewhere. they allowed them to come out at the end of that, and you would probably find by the time they got to their late teens and 20s, some children may be the majority would be gay, the majority would probably be heterosexual. and no fuss made about it. the fuss was made about it. the push were fear is here and this were the fear is here and this is where i'm coming into child abuse is a push now. so abuse is there is a push now. so if the child old is maybe leaning towards a particular way to dress or to describe themselves, well, there clearly this is the argument or they're clearly looking at going to go into transition. now, transition means , as we know, this could be means, as we know, this could be a lifetime . i'm on drugs. this

a lifetime. i'm on drugs. this this could be the most awful surgery that they have to sustain, which affects them for the rest of their life and to then start bringing down this age to, oh, we can swap your genden age to, oh, we can swap your gender, you know, and maybe three months at 16. it's outrageous , frankly, outrageous i >> -- >> well, again, i think we're conflating lots of issues. >> and i think when you've got a sort of sensitive topic that can get lots of people quite upset, which this issue does, you know, understandably, it's important that what we're that we talk about what we're supposed talking supposed to actually be talking about. so this reform about. right. so this reform doesn't have anything it doesn't have anything about it seems like you're talking more about puberty about the debate about puberty blockers. i'm blockers. no, no, no. i'm talking about this means. talking about what this means. well, those things well, what all of those things that concerned about, that you're concerned about, this doesn't mean so all this doesn't mean that. so all this doesn't mean that. so all this that someone this would mean is that someone would their its would change their name, its facility this. but facility hates this. but. but how facilitate how does it facilitate facilitates? does someone facilitates? how does someone facilitating to their facilitating a change to their marriage mean saying facilitating a change to their marria kids mean saying facilitating a change to their marria kids can mean saying facilitating a change to their marria kids can get mean saying facilitating a change to their marria kids can get puberty aying facilitating a change to their marria kids can get puberty ageg young kids can get puberty age to 16? >> you can then change your gender that, but only gender and then that, but only for months that's for three months because that's fine. ludicrous. is fine. this is ludicrous. this is a issue . this is a very serious issue. this is about child protection . it's

about child protection. it's about child protection. it's about child protection. it's about child safeguarding . and about child safeguarding. and just as a point of information , just as a point of information, the 18 groups, pressure groups, advice is the scottish government on this six, 16 of them were pro this particular position very, very vocal. and trans activists who can really be very difficult at times, particularly with the misogyny when it comes to the way they treat women, calling us terfs and all of this sort of stuff. so we don't need any lectures on what we know has been going on to lead to this. but this isn't just as simple as you're making it consequences of this it out. the consequences of this is a slippery slope and we're already on a slippery slope in schools and the nhs and all sorts of other things over these issues. >> very brief final words. >> very brief final words. >> so i think i'm just aware of the fact that i'm i'm the man on the fact that i'm i'm the man on the panel and i want to make clear that actually when they poll people, it is women who are more in favour of trans reform than than men. >> so no, they're not. it can be somewhat misleading. well, that's polls show. somewhat misleading. well, tha is polls show. somewhat misleading. well, tha is know3olls show. somewhat misleading. well, tha is know whatshow. somewhat misleading. well, tha is know what poll. >> i don't know what poll that was poll these days, because

i've never been asked about anything this. anything like this. >> anyone has >> i don't know anyone that has it all. >> only poll, 1000 people >> the only poll, 1000 people out of population of you know, out of a population of you know, i've politician all i've been a politician for all of these years. >> i'm to people all the >> i'm talking to people all the time, all the time. i'm not relying on a poll. >> it's still not scientific >> it's still not the scientific method, it? method, is it? >> talk to all sorts of >> i talk to all sorts of people, trust me. >> well, you know what? >> well, do you know what? i've got suspicion an we're got a sneaky suspicion an we're not going resolve this one on not going to resolve this one on this programme i'll this programme tonight, so i'll let the final thoughts let you have the final thoughts on do we need to do on that. so why do we need to do this 16 years? you can't get a tattoo at 16. can't even tattoo at 16. you can't even mark with something mark your body with something that you can get rid of down the line when you're 16. so why this stuff? i know. leave stuff? i don't know. i'll leave it you ponder. what's your it to you to ponder. what's your thoughts all? thoughts on it all? vaiews@gbnews.com i want vaiews@gbnews.com yes. i want to talk about that issue when i come back the break. your come back from the break. your home, homes. should they home, our homes. should they be exempt

hello there . i'm michelle hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00

tonight alongside me, baroness jacqueline foster and michael walker . lots of you, as jacqueline foster and michael walker. lots of you, as you probably would expect. getting in touch about that last topic. about gender and changing your genden about gender and changing your gender, particularly whether or not you should be able to do that aged 16 years old. goodness me . someone said, michelle, me. someone said, michelle, look, i can't give you my name because i could potentially lose my says. work in the my job. she says. work in the nhs and today and she says most of the days we have people ringing 111. she said she dealt with a call today, a male experiencing pregnancy problems . himars. she flags up that actually these changing of the gender it can cause confusion in in various health care settings . i've got to say, maybe this is my ignorance if indeed you do want to change to a man , then want to change to a man, then why would you then want to keep the most female part of you, which is the ability to get pregnant? the mind boggles . pregnant? the mind boggles. anyway, someone else has just beenin anyway, someone else has just been in touch saying, michelle, what about the protections for

autistic children? have an autistic children? i have an autistic children? i have an autistic son who is now autistic trans son who is now being given drugs despite never even having lived in her new genden even having lived in her new gender. this person doesn't want to be named, said that the parent they live with was not been involved in some of this. and they say, my trans son has obsessions as all autistic kids do. where is the protection for these children? i shall leave you to ponder that one. well, this is the topic that all of you have been in touch with tonight, telling me to get a life. shut up and all the rest of it. it's just a simple ponder ing the situation when it comes to housing in this country. it's split, it? if you've got split, isn't it? if you've got property, brilliant. property, then brilliant. good for i know everybody's for you. yes, i know everybody's worked hard. made their for you. yes, i know everybody's worked andi. made their for you. yes, i know everybody's worked and they've made their for you. yes, i know everybody's worked and they've earned; their for you. yes, i know everybody's worked and they've earned theirr money and they've earned their property. don't anyone property. don't resent anyone that it that for a second. when it comes, to looking at how comes, though, to looking at how do you things up, how do do you level things up, how do you get people onto the housing market. we need more stock. market. yes we need more stock. but of absolute issues but one of the absolute issues in this is the rate of in all of this is the rate of which property has been increasing. so people that bought a while bought their property a while ago, most of them have made

money, particularly in of money, particularly in some of the and cities, the bigger towns and cities, capital gains tax is exempt when it's your primary residence, your home. it be, do you your home. should it be, do you think it should taxed on that think it should be taxed on that gain? think it should be taxed on that gaiiabsolutely i think >> absolutely not. i think a second home i think is fair. cop certainly not, because the thing is, you will very often find , is, you will very often find, okay, there may be people in my sort of age group or older than you and, you know , we started you and, you know, we started off a little flat and then off with a little flat and then people maybe want a family . so people maybe want a family. so they're hoping in any event, if they've housing they've got on the housing ladder they've got a bit of ladder that they've got a bit of a profit there. they might have they invested they might have invested money doing up their home, their little home, and then they think, okay, we want expand think, okay, we want to expand our or or whatever, and our family or or whatever, and they that profit they will use then that profit where their house or where they sell their house or their be able then their flat to be able to then live in a bigger premises. and that up their small one that frees up their small one for one on the property for the next one on the property that they're then buying their next up that has next property up that has increased value well. increased in value as well. >> so now having to >> so now they're having to spend their hard earned spend more of their hard earned cash second bigger cash to buy that second bigger house everyone's hiking house because everyone's hiking their and market

their prices up and market forces and all the rest of it. if there were tax, perhaps the pnces if there were tax, perhaps the prices might raise so rapidly. but you can't you can't have >> but you can't you can't have you can't book the markets. at the end of the day. and if you start running around price fixing, i mean, home owners are tax payers. in any event and you're paying council tax, you're paying council tax, you're all sorts of taxes you're paying all sorts of taxes on your you know what on your home. and you know what we want is make sure we do want is to make sure everybody a home to live in. everybody has a home to live in. so it's an absolute no from jacqueline . jacqueline. >> absolutely on the fence. >> absolutely not on the fence. michael so, i mean, i think that model that you have of home ownership might be a little bit outdated, you know, because you're you get this you're suggesting you get this flat, then you use your, your, your earnings from flat your earnings from that flat to buy house. buy a bigger house. >> now, problem at the >> now, the problem at the moment one can get that moment is no one can get that first it's very, very first flat. it's very, very difficult get on property difficult to get on the property ladder for example, ladder in london, for example, you need £150,000 deposit. >> it depends where you live. you need £150,000 deposit. >> in depends where you live. you need £150,000 deposit. >> in dep partswhere you live. you need £150,000 deposit. >> in dep partswhithe/ou live. you need £150,000 deposit. >> in dep partswhithe country, >> in all parts of the country, it's lot more expensive than it's a lot more expensive than it's a lot more expensive than it used to be. i to london it used to be. i moved to london at couldn't afford to at 20 and i couldn't afford to live in central london because my salary wouldn't have allowed me to do that. >> and that was all those years

ago. >> well, now i wouldn't be able to afford to buy an outer london. so that's very different from arrived. now london. so that's very different frondon't arrived. now london. so that's very different frondon't where rrived. now london. so that's very different frondon't where iived. now london. so that's very different frondon't where i lived.iow you don't know where i lived. well in terms of your proposal, i think it's on the right track. i think it's on the right track. i think it's on the right track. i think sort of smart i think it's very sort of smart to thinking about these kind to be thinking about these kind of things for two reasons. so, one is sort inequality in the one is sort of inequality in the society. and talked on society. and we talked about on a actually how a previous show actually how i think was the ifs who found think it was the ifs who found that social mobility is at an all time low. and think that all time low. and i think that is people's don't is because people's i don't agree. wealth so agree. people's wealth is so tied up in houses instead of their income and their income for working. and i do we need to redistribute do think we need to redistribute between own property between those who own property and those who haven't got on the property ladder. so it's very intelligent so my intelligent on that level. so my worry capital gains tax worry with the capital gains tax is that it would discourage people what we people from moving. so what we actually want is people who are in houses, potentially, in big houses, potentially, they're and they're an old couple and they're an old couple and they're living in this huge house a could house that a family could be living we kind of want them living in. we kind of want them to now, to sell up and downsize. now, a capital would capital gains tax would disincentivize them. so i think what is a property what we need is, is a property tax, which you pay every year, and discourage people

and that would discourage people under—occupying big houses who say it would probably help people to getting people when it comes to getting bigger properties. yeah, well, well, an issue. so well, there is an issue. so economists always of economists always sort of tear their whereby their hair out over this whereby they from an economics perspective, you don't want to tax transactions because you're in transactions. in favour of transactions. what you tax is you actually want to tax is people on property. people sitting on property. but politically, difficult people sitting on property. but po get ally, difficult people sitting on property. but po get people difficult people sitting on property. but po get people to difficult people sitting on property. but po get people to daficult people sitting on property. but po get people to da property to get people to pay a property tax every because they see tax every year because they see it as, as know, this is my it as, as you know, this is my house, should i pay a on house, why should i pay a tax on it? really difficult it? so it's a really difficult political but political problem. but ultimately, think what we need ultimately, i think what we need to some to move towards is, yes, some kind of property tax, which is paid or at least you kind of property tax, which is paicjust. or at least you can just. >> yeah. >> em— 5 just reform the >> or you can just reform the council tax bands well. council tax bands as well. >> to give >> we don't want to give politicians the any room to give them any ideas, more them any ideas, take any more tax raise tax off you. but you raise a good point. people living in properties now where we know we do people do do have a problem is people do buy up properties and they don't live in them. see my point? >> yeah, well, a property tax would actually. would help with that, actually. well, we don't make it well, no, but we don't make it more to sit on house. >> there are a proportion often where could sort of look at where you could sort of look at something like which something like that which are left empty. right. >> go. we're >> well, there you go. we're going that one over as going to carry that one over as

well another day. if i had well to another day. if i had a pound for every one of you that's saying that's written in saying michelle, want more michelle, we don't want more tax, less, get rid of tax, we want less, get rid of capital of capital gains, get rid of inheritance that's you inheritance tax. that's what you lot saying to me. roger lot are saying to me. roger that. michael, jacqueline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is michael, jacqueline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is prettyichael, jacqueline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is pretty much. jacqueline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is pretty much all:queline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is pretty much all wezline, lot are saying to me. roger that.is pretty much all we have that is pretty much all we have got you for your got time for. thank you for your company. do not go anywhere where farage is up next, where nigel farage is up next, so make sure you have a good night. i'm just about to say i was about to say goodbye. was just about to say goodbye. my absolutely on fire. my inbox is absolutely on fire. yeah. is there anyone out there that agrees with capital that agrees with that capital yet? i think no. okay. i'll yet? no i think no. okay. i'll take it as a no. nana. see you tomorrow . tomorrow. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again . on. gb news. >> hello again. i'm alex on. gb news. >> hello again . i'm alex burkill >> hello again. i'm alex burkill and welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. we do have some further wet and perhaps on the perhaps thundery weather on the way with some strong winds to the isobars, a very tightly packed at the moment which just illustrates it is so illustrates that it is so blustery , so windy at moment

blustery, so windy at the moment and pressure arriving, and low pressure arriving, bringing some wet bringing some further wet weather to many parts as well as weather to many parts as well as we go through the end of today. and overnight, we are going to have some heavy bursts of rain, particularly parts of particularly across parts of scotland. a warning in scotland. there is a warning in force and some further force here and also some further heavy of western heavy rain for parts of western england also, england and wales. also, a warning in force here. temperatures well , it temperatures for many well, it is to be a mild start on is going to be a mild start on wednesday though it may is going to be a mild start on we(feeliay though it may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it/ though it may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it because though it may is going to be a mild start on we(feel it because tthe gh it may not feel it because of the unsettled weather . a band of unsettled weather. a band of rain then is going to push its way across parts way eastwards across parts of england wales in particular england and wales in particular with some heavy bursts go with some heavy bursts as we go through day , reaching parts through the day, reaching parts of the south—east into the afternoon, brighter skies afternoon, some brighter skies across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but also a feed showers coming in. and feed of showers coming in. and some these could be heavy and some of these could be heavy and thundery. temperatures should just highs of just about get to highs of around celsius the around 20 celsius in the south—east. but in the wind and the rain , it's not going to feel the rain, it's not going to feel as that. the rain, it's not going to feel as that . that rain will as warm as that. that rain will eventually through we eventually clear through as we go through night into go through wednesday night into thursday. go through wednesday night into thlmany places on thursday. but for many places on thursday. but again, are going to see again, we are going to see plenty of showers and also some heavy rain feeding into

heavy showery rain feeding into western parts of scotland in particular with risk of some particular with the risk of some thunder . particular with the risk of some thunder. there will some thunder. there will be some further weather further unsettled weather through week, but through the end of the week, but perhaps a bit to perhaps something a bit drier to start saturday. the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .

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