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an unnecessary , placing an unnecessary, attainable pressure on our asylum system and costing more than £3 billion annually. labour says the cost of hotel accommodation has gone up by a third since rishi sunak promised to end hotel use as the head of channel 4 television says there's no evidence to suggest its management were told about serious allegations concerning russell brand. it comes as the bbc announced a review of the comedian's time at the corporation , the metropolitan corporation, the metropolitan police yesterday confirmed it had received a separate report of an assault alleged to have taken place in 2003. four other allegations of rape or sexual assault were published as part of a joint investigation by the sunday times and channel 4. mr brand denies all allegations against him . downing street says against him. downing street says the bma's members could step back from industrial action this week. that's as rules ensuring a minimum level of cover in hospitals could be extended to
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doctors and nurses. consultants in england are striking for 48 hours today over pay . junior hours today over pay. junior doctors will join them tomorrow and they'll all be picketing until friday. the government's facing criticism for its decision to give avanti west coast a new long term contract . coast a new long term contract. the department for transport has announced the train operator will continue to run services on the west coast main line for at least three years as that line runs from london to glasgow through birmingham, liverpool, manchester and edinburgh. and it's despite the company having the second worst performance records in the country . and as records in the country. and as you've been hearing , the you've been hearing, the financial conduct authority has concluded that there's no evidence that banks close the accounts of customers because of their political views . it their political views. it follows the closure of nigel farage's account by coots, the gb news presenter revealed that internal memos at the bank deemed his views in consistent with its position as an inclusive organisation . the
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inclusive organisation. the telegraph says mr farage account wasn't included in the fca's report , with gb news across the report, with gb news across the uk on tv. in your car, on digital radio and now on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news. channel >> well, it was the financial times. it was. that's the very same paper that broke the story that coots had closed my account because of insufficient funds. well, they were wrong about that , but the times got the leak of the financial conduct authority's and they put authority's report and they put it today on their front page. fca report finds no evidence of banks closing accounts for political leanings . well, political leanings. well, frankly, i didn't know really whether to laugh or to cry. and all of this ahead of the release at midday today of this full fca report, uk payment accounts,
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access and closures. now, you would have thought, wouldn't you, that all they had to do was to read that vile 40 page document that coots prepared on me to realise my account had been closed because i did not augn been closed because i did not align with the value of the bank. yet we learn later on that apparently only my case wasn't included, but aside from that, they discovered that nobody. no, absolutely nobody had had their accounts closed as a result of their views. well, i could give you a list as long as your arm of people who've been debunked because of their political views and associations. let's begin, of course, with the founder and organiser of leave dot eu arron banks and andy wigmore . yes, banks and andy wigmore. yes, banks and andy wigmore. yes, banks had his business accounts closed and wigmore has had both his personal and business accounts closed. what about richard tice , now leader of richard tice, now leader of
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reform uk.7 richard, richard tice, now leader of reform uk? richard, who was an mep with the brexit party , has mep with the brexit party, has found himself rejected for loans because of pure political reasons , and that for his reasons, and that for his business, extraordinar chile. kevin saunders , former boss of kevin saunders, former boss of border force over in calais. he's had his account closed. he thinks because he appears regularly on gb news grant shapps cabinet minister had his and other family accounts closed .toby and other family accounts closed . toby young of the free speech union de—banking taken out of the payments system. paypal and of course, the reverend richard fothergill, who objected to the lgbtq+ propaganda. he was getting from his building society . he only to have his society. he only to have his account closed. what we see today from the fca is a total whitewash. it is a complete and utter farce. but then i guess by asking people who are biased to
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examine whether there is bias is probably not going to get you much of a result. but what's annoying is this the fca is the most important regulator in this country. why well, because financial services are not just the biggest employer, not just the biggest employer, not just the biggest employer, not just the biggest earner of invisible income from abroad. it is britain's biggest industry. and it used to be the jewel in the crown. and many of us believe with brexit, this was the chance for our financial sector to really get back to where it ought to be as the leading global financial centre. but the fish can rot from the head down and frankly , my view is that the and frankly, my view is that the fca has now become utterly politicised, filled up with people who frankly have no experience of financial markets whatsoever. oh, but they're very good. very good indeed at pushing the diversity and inclusion agenda onto our banks , onto our insurance companies
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and onto the whole industry . and onto the whole industry. now, the response to all of this from andrew griffiths, the city minister today simply wasn't good enough. he reiterated that nobody should have their accounts closed for holding a perfectly legal view. well, yes, but the treasury, the government has real power here and i think we need a complete clean out of these political appointees that are there within the fca . so are there within the fca. so let's start again with people that actually understand finance markets and that come into something and promise an absolute political neutrality. i'm asking you , should we sack i'm asking you, should we sack the regulator or give me your views, make sure they're clean, please go to farage at gbnews.com. well, joining me gb news.com. well, joining me down gbnews.com. well, joining me down the line is david davis, conservative member of parliament for house and price and howden in yorkshire . david, and howden in yorkshire. david, i was talking about the political ization of the fca and we could go on, i guess , and
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we could go on, i guess, and talk about the civil service just want to show you a couple of pictures of the people that now run the fca. let's start with the ceo, nikhil rathee, and here he is. he is the ceo of the financial conduct authority . and financial conduct authority. and he and the executive director , he and the executive director, sheldon mills . these are the sheldon mills. these are the two. these are the two most prominent people that run the financial conduct authority. now i've checked a bit, david, into their backgrounds , but i think their backgrounds, but i think you've done a little bit more work on this than i have . and work on this than i have. and have we politicise used the financial market regulator. to >> well, i'll start by saying, nigel, i'm feeling a bit left out. i was the only person in your list . i'm quite jealous your list. i'm quite jealous now. the the, the simple truth is , is that either the, the is, is that either the, the agency is too big or
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incompetent, careless or it's doing something to thwart its friends and the establishment. if you talk about politicisation being here is a basically an exercise of the establishment protecting its own. i mean, mr rathee, nikhil rathi , i think if rathee, nikhil rathi, i think if i remember correctly, was private secretary to, uh, gordon brown . he then went on to, to do brown. he then went on to, to do some otherjobs brown. he then went on to, to do some other jobs inside the brown. he then went on to, to do some otherjobs inside the civil some other jobs inside the civil service. he then got a job in the london stock exchange . he the london stock exchange. he then came back into system these jobs rotate amongst people who are the london establishment . are the london establishment. and what you're seeing is the outcome of that. what you're seeing is, oh, well, you know, these are our people. we can't we can't be too critical of them. i mean, it is inconceivable that any professional organisation , one professional organisation, one could look at the facts, the facts with respect to you, where arron banks, all these other
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people and say, well, there's nothing wrong here, you know, and they very, very carefully designed their terms . they said, designed their terms. they said, well, we're only going to look from june 21 to 22, which sort of cuts you out. you know, we're only going to look at people who are specifically be removed for their political views as stated by the banks themselves . well, by the banks themselves. well, who's going to do that? it's like asking a burglar. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> they say to the banks, they say to the banks, have you de—banking anybody for political reasons? banks say no. and reasons? the banks say no. and they say that's okay. >> yeah. i mean, it's barking mad, frankly. and these are you know, these are not people off the street. i mean, mr rathee's paid over half a million a year. you know, his notional salary. i think is about 455. but you had to add the package up. it's over half a million. you know, he's you know, he ought to be able you know, he ought to be able you know, he ought to be able you know, frankly, my country solicitor ought to be able to answer this question. and he's not paid half a million a year. so, you know, these people ought to be on top of their job
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to be on top of theirjob and they're and the fact that they're not. and the fact that they're not. and the fact that they have failed in this way and frankly are effectively frankly today are effectively admitting they failed. i mean, they've oh, well, admitting they failed. i mean, the didn't oh, well, admitting they failed. i mean, the didn't do oh, well, admitting they failed. i mean, the didn't do this oh, well, admitting they failed. i mean, the didn't do this and)h, well, admitting they failed. i mean, the didn't do this and)h, 'didn't we didn't do this and we didn't do that. and we've got to come back sorry to late. if back to it. sorry to late. if you and jury, you are the judge and jury, something this , when you something like this, when you come out with a conclusion , it come out with a conclusion, it should stand up. it should not be. well, this is just our view along the way. >> is time, david, to >> so is it time, david, to replace these people with new personnel and to get a regulator that the industry, the country and the world can respect? >> well, yes, it is, because several reasons. i mean , this is several reasons. i mean, this is the latest of a series of failures by the fca and fca and its predecessor were used else in the 2008 crisis. they got the whole story wrong in the libor scandal. they basically convicted all the wrong people. and yet again, let off the bosses.i and yet again, let off the bosses. i mean, it was if you look at that scandal, it was the juniors who got sacked. nobody
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who was senior knew about it, let alone went to prison. so all of all of the behaviour of the fca and by the way , they've got fca and by the way, they've got some quite expert people working for them, but in the lower ranks , with all the behaviour of the fca is that of an organisation who sees its function as propping up the financial establishment. and that's the opposite reason for what it's there. so i'm afraid i'm a i think i think mr rac has simply his prospects, put it mildly , his prospects, put it mildly, are dim. >> david davis spoken as ever. thank you . and i could have thank you. and i could have mentioned but sheldon mills, the executive director, of course, for many years, for many years, worked for stonewall and leads the diversity and inclusion agenda. the diversity and inclusion agenda . now the diversity and inclusion agenda. now i'm now the diversity and inclusion agenda . now i'm now joined by agenda. now i'm now joined by royston smith, member of parliament for southampton , parliament for southampton, itchen royston, just briefly remind us of what's happened to you, mark march april last year i was told that they didn't want to keep tsb, didn't want to keep
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me in their bank anymore, threw me in their bank anymore, threw me out. >> went on for months and months and months. couldn't get any responses from ceo, robin and months. couldn't get any responseorfrom ceo, robin and months. couldn't get any responseor even ceo, robin and months. couldn't get any responseor even the zeo, robin and months. couldn't get any responseor even the chairmanl and months. couldn't get any responseor even the chairman of bulloch or even the chairman of the board . kept my money for the board. kept my money for months and months months . months and months and months. >> you were frozen, weren't you? >> you were frozen, weren't you? >> frozen. and then >> i was frozen. and then finally they've since finally they they've now since i spoke last time, they've spoke to you last time, they've they cheque that's they sent me a cheque and that's all but i put in a all done now. but i put in a request that as did and most request that as you did and most of subject access, subject access anybody can do. >> yep, yep . >> yep, yep. >> yep, yep. >> and they've sent me. it's not it's not, it's not comprehensive. there's things missing in it which i'm going to go to them and have and go back to them and have and said, you know, you can the said, you know, you can find the rest that haven't sent rest of it that you haven't sent already, that bundle already, but half of that bundle is media to where they have been following me in the media to see what i've been saying. they've got a bundle , which is mostly got a bundle, which is mostly the controversial stuff as opposed to the things i would say about how wonderful it is. someone's a levels of been good this year and things like i sold my house they put down that i'd sold it how much i'd sold it for, how much the profit was.
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now that went into my personal account with lloyds had nothing to do tsb, they've to do with tsb, so they've been following financial personal following my financial personal finances. been following finances. they've been following me in the media. they refuse to say why they threw me out of their bank. but why do they have a bundle me like that? if a big bundle on me like that? if it for political reasons? it wasn't for political reasons? >> and >> well, absolutely. and we've been on to tsb to say you'd be back the programme and we got back on the programme and we got this statement. tsb accounts are reviewed periodical basis reviewed on a periodical basis to ensure that we comply with our regulator we our regulator obligations. we do not comment on individual customer there. you are. customer cases there. you are. >> well, of course i can comment on the individual case because if they were just reviewing my account, my very modest earnings would all been in the register of members interests. it's the easiest thing they could possibly but if they've possibly follow. but if they've got oligarch drug runner got an oligarch or a drug runner with a £10 million house in london with no of knowing london with no way of knowing where from , how where that money comes from, how many they thrown many of those have they thrown out? how do out? well, quite royston, how do you respond when you see the front page of the financial times today saying that no one has been debunked for political
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reasons? >> give us your response. >> give us your response. >> well, it's just farcical, isn't it's as you said, what isn't it? it's as you said, what do phoned the bank up do they do? phoned the bank up and anyone and say, have you kicked anyone out? thanks very out? no, i haven't. thanks very much. on. mean, much. we'll move on. i mean, they're supposed to be they're supposed to looking supposed to be looking after us. they're supposed to be the regulator. now, i know i'm an mp, enough and ugly mp, and i'm big enough and ugly enough myself. enough to look after myself. however if they it to me, however if they do it to me, they it anyone else. they will do it to anyone else. and sure now, and i'm absolutely sure now, knowing that they had a file on you and they've got a file on me, file on me, they'll have file on hundreds you know, hundreds of people. you know, most mps, most of the most of the mps, most of the outspoken i don't outspoken commentators. i don't know people like matthew le tissier, player tissier, former football player laurence like that. tissier, former football player laurethey've like that. tissier, former football player laurethey've all like that. tissier, former football player laurethey've all got like that. tissier, former football player laurethey've all got files that. i bet they've all got files on them. yeah. >> initially know when i >> now, initially know when i broke story of had broke the story of what had happened people like happened to me and people like you came out as it were, as well, you know, i got a great response rishi response from jeremy hunt. rishi sunak and andrew griffith in particular, minister. particular, the city minister. yeah. and it was he that said to the fca, look into this investing against this. now we're is more to come we're told there is more to come and were just initial and these were just the initial findings . and these were just the initial findings. but andrew and these were just the initial findings . but andrew griffith findings. but andrew griffith and jeremy hunt have real power here. yeah real power over the
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fca . yeah. today they haven't fca. yeah. today they haven't chosen to use it. >> so far and i don't think it's the end . i don't think it's the the end. i don't think it's the end. i've been speaking to people in government who are absolutely understand and acknowledge the situations that we've put in and how that we've been put in and how that might affect other people. in fact, some people don't want to ask they've a ask their banks if they've got a file in case they upset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, in case they upset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, and1 case they upset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, and icase they upset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, and i don't hey upset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, and i don't thinkpset ask their banks if they've got a file bank, and i don't think itet the bank, and i don't think it will. know, that's for will. but, you know, that's for them. i don't think it's them. but i don't think it's oven them. but i don't think it's over. and i think that andrew griffiths been very helpful. over. and i think that andrew griffith hunt,)een very helpful. over. and i think that andrew griffith hunt, you very helpful. over. and i think that andrew griffith hunt, you know, |elpful. over. and i think that andrew griffith hunt, you know, made. jeremy hunt, you know, made a they been being said they have been being, being said he but not he was not de—banking, but not allowed to say. >> a bit weak kneed >> it's all a bit weak kneed today. >> well, well perhaps, but i think the fca have not think that the fca have not finished think make finished yet. i think we'll make sure highlighting it and finished yet. i think we'll make sthink highlighting it and finished yet. i think we'll make sthink peopleiighlighting it and finished yet. i think we'll make sthink peopleiighlight cant and i think people like me can highlight government, highlight it. the government, because i have this big bundle from how they have from tsb showing how they have somebody sat in a darkened from tsb showing how they have ssome)dy sat in a darkened from tsb showing how they have ssome sinistern a darkened from tsb showing how they have s some sinister person kened from tsb showing how they have s some sinister person trawling , some sinister person trawling through whether through media to see whether i've anything that what i've said anything that what they like. well you're a they don't like. well you're a conservative, a brexiteer . conservative, a brexiteer. >> i'm not surprised at all. think we should have expected it deserved everything that was coming you. thank you for
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coming to you. thank you for coming to you. thank you for coming finish this coming on. let's finish this segment. i've pretty segment. and i've been pretty angry today . let's angry all day today. let's finish it a slightly lighter finish it on a slightly lighter note. at about 5:00 on the telegraph website, the latest matt cartoon has gone up and i love it. there's a dog with his arms crossed looking very, very cross and upset. and the owner is speaking to the neighbour and saying, this breed of dog hasn't been banned and but it has been bannedin been banned and but it has been banned in a moment, we head to paris, where, of course, sir keir starmer has been meeting president macron, our political edhon president macron, our political editor, christopher hope is there. let's find out what's been going on there today. there. let's find out what's been going on there today . are been going on there today. are we going to become an associate member again eu under member again of the eu under a labour government ? and what are labour government? and what are these to do these gentlemen intend to do about in lampedusa? about the crisis in lampedusa? all of that in a couple of
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have as a country. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. well some of your responses to my question , should we sack the
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my question, should we sack the regulator? >> one viewer says clear them all out . the fca's farcical all out. the fca's farcical judgement over this issue is just further proof that our establishment are packed with blairite . metropolitan liberals. blairite. metropolitan liberals. couldn't agree with you more. david says, embarrassing beyond belief. this will do untold damage to the city's reputation when the government needs to step in and clear out the pathetic woke incompetent members. david, i'm with you as well . and that was the point well. and that was the point i was making in my initial monologue. is probably monologue. this is probably the most the most important regulator in the country . it's britain's biggest country. it's britain's biggest business. now let's head to paris and talk to christopher hope news political editor hope gb news political editor who's there tracking. sir who's been there tracking. sir keir starmer's progress with the french press . president macron , french press. president macron, chris hope, what has come out of these talks today in paris? well >> well, they've given each other presents. nigel with keir starmer, gave president macron an arsenal shirt with macron on
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the back and 25, which is the number of times he's the 25th french president. in return, he got some cufflinks. so it's more about how it looks really. and they got on well. there's warm chat about the b word did come up , brexit chat about the b word did come up, brexit did chat about the b word did come up , brexit did come up. chat about the b word did come up, brexit did come up. nigel and not just britain, but further to that, i asked about did did small boats come up the issue of those unlawful crossings across the channel? no answer. now keir starmer came here to france with quite strong words. he said that labour will improve our relationship with europe and make brexit work for britain, but further detail on that, we don't have . but it was that, we don't have. but it was interesting, i think that you did see mr starmer with sir keir starmer talking to the french president macron. he could be the pm this time next year. >> yeah, i'm guessing , chris, >> yeah, i'm guessing, chris, that one of the reasons was that starmer will say that as prime minister , you know, he can talk minister, you know, he can talk to these people all and he can do a deal on the boats. i mean, isn't that what he's going to
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come back and say? >> well, he said he wants to do a deal, doesn't he? with more return policy. but i'm not sure that the appetite for a full scale reneging of that agreement , nigel, is what the eu want. they are as bruised by the exit brexit drama as we were. what we do know is that the fisheries policy is up for grabs in 2025. the uk is meant to get back control of our waters from the eu. that will be a bargaining chip for the next government if it's labour or the tories and getting a better deal maybe on on selling electric cars with batteries into mainland europe. so i think that will be in play. and of course as you, you and i well know, if you start trading off fish quotas again, that will cause absolute misery for lots of communities in britain. >> we've been selling out >> well, we've been selling out the industry for almost the fishing industry for almost 50 afraid. they've 50 years. i'm afraid. they've always bargaining chip always been this bargaining chip ever since day okay. so ever since day one. okay. so really not much detail then of what has actually come out of these negotiation plans today. but christopher hope, a lot of talk about the possibility of us
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becoming an associate member , becoming an associate member, that talks emerged from from french and german quarters and quarters and of course, that's emerged in brussels, not here, not the talks between mr macron and sir keir starmer. >> i mean, how it looks. i was talking to a senior cabinet minister, shadow cabinet minister, shadow cabinet minister this week, and they said even if maybe a said that even if maybe a quarter of tory voters look at the images coming from paris onto the news tonight and they think, well, there's someone who i think could support the uk as messages on the world stage. we might give him a chance, but it's job done for labour. i think that's they're trying to show end of this show him at the end of this world don't using world tour. don't forget using in with justin in canada with with justin trudeau in the hague , europol we trudeau in the hague, europol we are seeing an individual here who's trying to impress on gb news viewers and other people who may be sceptical about mr keir starmer that he give him a chance as pm. >> i guess in some ways he's having he is having success with that, isn't he ? that, isn't he? >> well, i think so. i mean , i
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>> well, i think so. i mean, i think, you know, he does, he seem confident and again, we don't know what was said in the meetings today. i back to the meetings today. i go back to the words that william hague once said , and rightly so. i think said, and rightly so. i think that the uk needs one government, not two and one at a time. please not not. i think president macron was aware of that. the meeting was facilitated by the elysee palace. but but i think they recognise is that with a state visit of the king and queen starting this time tomorrow where i am in paris, they can't afford to muddy no, no , afford to muddy waters. no, no, i get all of that. >> yeah . as you say, he looks >> yeah. as you say, he looks confident on the world stage. goodness knows what he might negotiate with. macron and the eu as prime minister. final thought, chris. i you're in thought, chris. i know you're in paris , but your ear is always paris, but your ear is always very close to the ground. what a farce. i believe this this fca judgement is . judgement is. >> well, i've been looking closely at this. it looks to me, nigel, you may not agree that they're looking at very narrow time period, 2022 to 2023. that
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neatly means that your case is not concluded . i thought the not concluded. i thought the remarks from andrew griffiths , remarks from andrew griffiths, the city minister, who on this issue has been proved that he can reach across the political divide and support what you be going through as long as, along with many tories and brexiteers, he said today. clearly there is more to be done to validate date the submissions by banks to and ensure that the fca have thoroughly followed up de—banking perspectives. i think the key point here is have they, have they done a prima facia, prima facie look at it and moved on or have they deep dived into the issue? because in your situation your mortgage is tied up? it's complicated , but up? it's complicated, but there's no question that your political were clearly an political views were clearly an issue for coutts bank. >> royston smith, i've >> yeah. and royston smith, i've just had a studio and many, many others. christopher hope, thank you. back in london you. see you back in london tomorrow in a moment, i'm going tomorrow in a moment, i'm going to tell you how much it costs every day to put up people nearly all young men that cross the english channel in small dinghies. it's the english channel in small dinghies.it's eye—watering
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dinghies. it's an eye—watering amount. i'll tell you all of that just that in just
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . now radio. now if i was to tell you what the daily and the annual costs are for putting up these young men, well, 91% young men that cross the english channel in those dinghies, people would say, oh, he's just making it up. >> isn't he? so rather than me telling you, let's ask dr. mike jones, director of jones, executive director of migration watch . mike, how much migration watch. mike, how much is it now costing us on a daily bafis is it now costing us on a daily basis ? s to accommodate people basis? s to accommodate people in hotels , bars, private in hotels, bars, private apartments and all the different methods that we use. >> it's astonishing. it's 8 million a day. >> million? >> 8 million? >> 8 million? >> yes. has increased from >> yes. this has increased from 6 increased by a 6 million. it's increased by a third since rishi sunak has come into office. cost of into into office. the cost of the asylum system per annum is , the asylum system per annum is, as you know, close to 4 billion. now and rising £4 billion a yeah now and rising £4 billion a year. and this is just the asylum system . that's without asylum system. that's without considering the costs of mass
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legal, economic migration on housing and infrastructure . so housing and infrastructure. so this is just the tip of the iceberg , but imposes a huge iceberg, but imposes a huge burden on the british taxpayer. >> yeah. do we talk enough about how much how much this costs, or do you think generally we there's kind of a reluctance there's a kind of a reluctance to about or will to talk about this or will labour start this maybe labour start to use this maybe as weapon ? as a political weapon? >> we do talk about the costs, but does tend to be focussed but it does tend to be focussed more the asylum system. more on the asylum system. i think we should look more at the immigration system a whole, immigration system as a whole, but this very but obviously this is a very visual phenomenon. you have people in dinghies coming over, they're being housed in hotels subsidised at the expense of the british taxpayer . and you know, british taxpayer. and you know, we have a cost of living crisis, a housing crisis . we have young a housing crisis. we have young people who can't get onto the property ladder, people paying half their income to live in mouldy shoe boxes. so we had a young guy , a young guy called young guy, a young guy called george, know what he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20,. know what he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20, perhaps know what he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20, perhaps on�*w what he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20, perhaps on a what he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20, perhaps on a livet he was young guy, a young guy called ge(20, perhaps on a live showvas 19, 20, perhaps on a live show we did with a live audience last thursday up in essex. >> and he said, look, i'm a
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young person. i have to scrimp and and fight for and scrape and fight for everything. yeah. and course, everything. yeah. and of course, housing huge cost for housing had a huge cost for young , he and young people, he said. and i just it. i'm fairness and just see it. i'm fairness and people crossing the channel and being put up this. it is being put up like this. it is a very political issue and very live political issue and professor matthew keeps professor matthew goodwin keeps polling this and keeps saying westminster often doesn't want to debate this, but public to debate this, but the public does end in sight does. is there any end in sight to this from a uk perspective ? to this from a uk perspective? >> i mean, ultimately it comes down to the supreme court decision . the only game in which decision. the only game in which will be when close to christmas time and that is to going tell the government whether they can proceed with deportations to rwanda . essentially, yes. both rwanda. essentially, yes. both political parties are united and what needs to be done , you need what needs to be done, you need to destroy the people traffickers. business model and the labour party want some sort of exchange program with the eu , which is very counterproductive . both the counterproductive. both the conservative and labour party want to attack the supply chains , but ultimately you need to make it economically irrational
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for people to enter this country and you need to attack the demand side . and as we saw with demand side. and as we saw with australia and the similar scheme that they had with papua new guinea and nauru , you need to guinea and nauru, you need to detain, you need to deport people who come here through irregular means. >> i don't think either party really have. i mean even if rwanda was to be proved legal, where are we talking about a few hundred people, aren't we? >> well, it does depend on a number. you need to deport a critical mass of people for the scheme to actually work because it needs to be a disincentive . it needs to be a disincentive. you know, if you're talking about small numbers, then it's not going to work. >> it was unclear to me how many rwanda would take. was 200? rwanda would take. was it 200? was it definitely was it 2000? it definitely wasn't that i do know. wasn't 20,000. that i do know. and you know, we have to look to what the extra ordinary and whether you use the word invasion, everyone goes mad. but what can you call 200 boats? what can you call double the population of the island arriving in lampedusa over the
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course of the last weekend? i mean, presumably , if double the mean, presumably, if double the numbers thus far have come into italy, that came in for the whole of last year, some of those people finish up in calais, dunkirk , etcetera, don't calais, dunkirk, etcetera, don't they? yes >> and it's not just lampedusa . >> and it's not just lampedusa. there are various gateways into europe, around greece and the spanish islands, even the balkans as but you know, ultimately the eu has tried to kick this into the long grass. they need to scale up frontex . they need to scale up frontex. they need to scale up frontex. they need to protect their borders. they need a critical mass of boats. they're to patrol their waterways . their waterways. >> but that only works if you stop the boats from coming in. yes, some evidence i mean, some evidence that the greeks have done push back and have said, no, you're not coming in. i didn't see much appetite from ursula von der leyen to actually do this. it would seem this is becoming across europe perhaps the most divisive political issue of the lot. >> it is the ironic thing. the eu actually has a bilateral deal
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with tunisia , which includes with tunisia, which includes a returns policy. so why aren't they enacting it? but but it is very divisive because the eu has to make a decision . very divisive because the eu has to make a decision. is it a globalist organisation that wants to benefit human city as a whole, or is it a sort of continentalist supranational group that tries to benefit european citizens? and there are huge divisions there. >> yeah, i saw the former president of germany saying, hey, we've got to put a number on this, enough's enough . we've on this, enough's enough. we've got hungary, poland saying no more. we've even got the swedish democrats in coalition government in sweden saying no more. and it looks as though the south could be completely swamped . swamped. >> yes . and it could potentially >> yes. and it could potentially tear the european union apart. i can't imagine the hungarians or the poles or even the french are very happy about this situation. and you know, it's an existential crisis for the eu, essentially , and they've got to essentially, and they've got to make their mind up. do they
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police their external borders or do they absorb these people and. >> well, i warn them, mike, i warned them back in 2015 that if you allowed people just to set foot on soil , you allowed people just to set foot on soil, having crossed the mediterranean, if they could stay , i said many millions would stay, i said many millions would come . and last night on this come. and last night on this programme i was challenged. i was speaking to an italian journalist. what i said, well, if we go down this route, many millions more will come. she millions more will come. and she said, well, nigel, not millions. well, did some homework today well, i did some homework today on that speech i gave on this since that speech i gave in the european . parliament at in the european. parliament at 4.7, 1 million people have claimed asylum somewhere in the european union and it will be 4.7 million more unless something is done. mike, final thought. heading up to our general election , it's not that general election, it's not that far away . can we see clearly far away. can we see clearly that this will be a big issue ? that this will be a big issue? >> yeah, i think the conservative party are hoping that the election becomes a referendum on the rwanda plan
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and i think the labour party have made a rod for their own back on this because if it does work, if the deterrent effect does actually take place . keir does actually take place. keir keir starmer has the option either to stick with his policy or backtrack and it was his first big policy announcement and it seemed within 72 hours he was having to contradict himself as to whether we'd be part of the eu quota scheme for people coming in to lampedusa. >> it didn't go well for him, did it? >> no, didn't, because the >> no, it didn't, because the labour promised us a labour party promised us a returns policy. you know , a returns policy. you know, a bilateral agreement. yeah, but this isn't a returns policy. it's an exchange programme. it's like the erasmus scheme. but for illegal economic migrants and you know, it's just going to increase the pull factor. >> yeah . how ironic that the >> yeah. how ironic that the conservatives , having failed so conservatives, having failed so completely thus far on the channel completely thus far on the channel, could find it to be an election? perhaps not maybe not winning, but an election advantage issue. mike jones, thank you for joining advantage issue. mike jones, thank you forjoining us here in the studio on gb news. is now
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the studio on gb news. is now the what the farage moment is engush the what the farage moment is english cricket. i mean , it's english cricket. i mean, it's going so well, isn't it? we've got the world cup coming up next month. we are the defending holders of that 50 over competition trophy . we would competition trophy. we would have beaten australia had it not been for the awful weather up at old trafford in manchester and generally generally , cricket, generally generally, cricket, men's cricket , generally generally, cricket, men's cricket, women's generally generally, cricket, men's cricket , women's cricket men's cricket, women's cricket is going pretty well in this country, but it's not going well enough for the english and wales cricket board who have decided they will now spend £5 million that could have been spent elsewhere in youth development or whatever else it may be. no, no, no, it will be spent on diversity training because they've discovered that we have a structural and institutional racism, sexism and class based discrimination , and it continues discrimination, and it continues to exist across the game and every professional cricketer will have to undergo this training, but nobody stands up
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and says, no, i don't want to do this. they will no doubt lose their contracts with their counties , their clubs or indeed counties, their clubs or indeed with england. and so nobody will say a word as the new tyranny is imposed and as people who are white, middle class cricketers are told what dreadful human beings they are, it's quite extraordinary . in beings they are, it's quite extraordinary. in a moment, a tale about a cyclist. yes, a cyclist who . had 36,000 quid's cyclist who. had 36,000 quid's worth of bikes nicked and managed through his own investigative work to recover the whole lot. it did come at a bit of a cost, but he's got his bikes back and he did it without the help of the police. are the lessons perhaps important lessons perhaps important lessons we can learn from damien groves in just a moment
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damien groves is a professional cyclist from stoke on trent, who suffered well, i'd call it a pretty deep misfortune, but he managed to rectify the situation. and it's just nice occasionally to have an uplifting and positive story on gb news and elsewhere. and damien joins me in the studio now. welcome to the programme. yeah, so the story, as i understand it, is you had bicycles in your shed valued at 36 grand. yeah. how the bloomin hell by cycle cost was it three bikes, four for four total. >> it's just the way it is now. like with as with all sports, it's grown bikes more expensive than ever. they range from £500 to £15,000. if you're depending on where you're at. yeah, yeah, yeah , right. yeah, right. >> riley, i honestly had no idea
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they cost this much. so what happens, damien? you wake up one morning and they're gone. >> wake a phone >> yeah. wake up to a phone call. we were actually away competing, woke to competing, so i woke up to a phone call to say they'd been stolen. and the thing stolen. and the usual thing police came went forward police came out, went forward from there. not a lot happened . from there. not a lot happened. probably 3 or 4 weeks went by and i just couldn't let it go. so i hired a private investigator myself. okay and not and to be honest, we didn't get a great deal of success there at first. as good as the guys at fort brave are and then somebody on instagram messaged me a link saying, i think i've seen your bikes for sale on this poush seen your bikes for sale on this polish website. so i gave this information to the police and my private investigator and the ri. private investigator and the pi. just acted much faster. and p.i. just acted much faster. and but also at the same time, the police i was passed back and forth between staffordshire and leicestershire police because one said they couldn't act without the other. and all this sort of tape and eventually it
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amounted to they said that my evidence that the pi had given was the private investigator had given was circum stantial. so they closed the case and even though it was the pco's that were dealing with me, even they agreed it was blindingly obvious. >> so the police are out. they've done their bit as they see it, but you don't give up. >> no, no, no. and i met with. me and my private investigator. then had a chat about what next, if anything, and we just agreed that the last chance saloon was sort of confront this individual via like the channels of contact we'd established and just say, give us the bikes back or we're going to the police. obviously sort of calling his bluff banking. he didn't know. and it came but the came good really. but the downside to that was the bikes were in poland . and so were already in poland. and so i was given choice . then i'd was given this choice. then i'd either to week for either got to wait a week for them back from poland or them to come back from poland or or pay for professionals to or pay for some professionals to collect them in poland. so i
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didn't want to let it fester and maybe let this guy think about how to get out of it. so i agreed to the guys in poland doing collection and then doing the collection and then had somebody in poland purchase the , see? so we think, the bikes, see? so we think, yeah, there was a bit of conversation with the seller. he obviously wasn't aware and the advert seemed to come down quickly oh no, quickly and he was like, oh no, this now. felt that this sold now. so we felt that time was of the essence as well. so it was very much like act now, get them back. and then once they'd actually been handed backit once they'd actually been handed back it went, it was bizarre because all of a sudden it's like, yes, i've got my bikes. they with somebody i trust . and they with somebody i trust. and then quickly it was like, then very quickly it was like, how get them home from how do we get them home from poland? it just it, poland? yeah and it just it, yeah, it's bizarre as it sounds, it was quick. it's the most efficient and cheapest to drive there . so we got some pictures there. so we got some pictures of all of this going on. >> i think i'm going to show on the screen. so in the end, the screen. and so in the end, they were transported back by van end, me and my van or in the end, me and my friend drove middle of friend drove to the middle of poland , signed some paperwork, poland, signed some paperwork, did collection and drove
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did a collection and drove straight no aggro , no straight back. no aggro, no difficulties, nothing whatsoever , because people they , because the people knew they were . were stolen. >> people knew they >> the people that knew they were had handed them to my. >> yeah, yeah. and i don't know, you wouldn't call them employees but the guys that i'd hired, i wonder how many people who suffer from a serious burglary. >> yeah, actually get their goods back. i bet it has a percentage. i bet it's not that many. what what did all of this cost you? >> six? well, 5000, 900 and somewhat pounds. pretty much 6000. >> so £6,000 to get your bikes back. yeah >> £6,000. >> £6,000. >> were the bikes insured to. i thought were insured. >> but my insurance company weren't going to honour that because they were they came to me via a sponsor and in the small print i didn't realise until this point that anything gifted via a sponsor insurer , gifted via a sponsor insurer, once companies deem as the sponsors responsibility to replace. but i'm guessing given the level of bike theft and the ease of bike theft and i don't
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know the answer to this. >> yeah i'm guessing bike insurance for very high end bikes is going to be very expensive . expensive. >> to go up massively >> it's going to go up massively because it's just massive because it's just been a massive business this year. >> you know, we compete still and in every weekend more and more expense bikes go missing and paying for and people are left paying for bikes they don't own anymore. >> insurance and >> and the insurance and the insurance premiums the insurance premiums go up. the insurance premiums go up. the ins|sometimes they pay out. i'm >> sometimes they pay out. i'm guessing. sometimes they don't. >> well, your stories ended well, but it still cost you a lot of money. yeah yeah. perhaps you're incredibly well off, damian . i you're incredibly well off, damian. i don't you're incredibly well off, damian . i don't know. damian. i don't know. >> not at all. i'm a working class man. it's all on credit. >> this is all on the. >> this is all on the. >> yeah, yeah . >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> let's just sort of think a little bit about the role of the police in this . you had good police in this. you had good intelligence that was stolen. bikes were somewhere in the next county. yeah, of leicestershire . clearly, that was very good intelligence . yeah and the
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intelligence. yeah and the police didn't have the resources, didn't have the time , couldn't be bothered. where do we sit with this ? we sit with this? >> um, i, i don't, i don't think it's that they couldn't be bothered. >> i think that the person who was asked to issue a warrant at leicester police probably opened an email saw stolen mountain bikes matching fence panels and just said we haven't got time for this and closed it. didn't look at the finer details, didn't give it the time it deserved and just shut the case on me . and both pco's in staffs on me. and both pco's in staffs and leicester both agreed this was solid evidence that warranted an emergency warrant . warranted an emergency warrant. how does that leave you feeling about the police? >> damian frustrated, to say the least . least. >> i really wasn't happy when i phoned my pco back and said like , you know, you're leaving me no choice. other than i feel like going home. and to be blunt, i actually said to him, i feel like going home and putting me out in the oven over it. but you
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leave me no choice. i can't. i'm going to have to do something myself, which was never going to be like other than what be anything like other than what i so you went poland? >> so you went to poland? >> so you went to poland? >> yeah. you didn't know what you to confront? you you were going to confront? you might have into violent might have walked into a violent or dangerous situation . or dangerous situation. >> i was confident that i wasn't. >> but yeah, the potential for that. but like i say, the company that i worked with thought brave. i'd put my ultimate utmost trust in them and, and they were adamant that i was going into a safe situation to get get it back. >> now that you've done all of this. yeah >> gone to this effort and used you now some well done you for doing you written back doing it. have you written back to say, look, if to the police to say, look, if i was to recover these bikes, was able to recover these bikes, why couldn't you? >> a lengthy >> i've had a lengthy conversation i forget his conversation with i forget his rank now, but with with a higher officer at staffs police . and he officer at staffs police. and he basically just said it's red tape. the system doesn't allow for them, doesn't allow the officer on the ground to just be like, yep, that's solid, go and
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do this. they have to. then present a case and jump through all these hoops before they got permission to act. >> i try on this >> i mean, i try on this program, damian, to be as pro police as i can because i think they've got a rotten bloomin job. >> i don't agree with everything they do. i just wonder this they do. i just wonder in this case well be me that case it could well be me that they have so many thefts to deal with, many home thefts to with, so many home thefts to deal with bike thefts to deal with. let alone, you know, what's happening with drugs, gangsin what's happening with drugs, gangs in stoke on trent or. yeah violence or maybe they're just overwhelmed . overwhelmed. >> yeah i think i think they're overworked and underpaid, to be blunt . do you really. yeah. 100. blunt. do you really. yeah. 100. yeah my. my partner, she was a no business. >> there's no there's frustration, but there's no bitterness. >> my bitterness and frustration is with the system that they have to adhere to. but that doesn't change the fact that they are like i say, my partner was a police officer until about 18 months ago. i can vouch for how overworked and underpaid she was firsthand. yeah, well, she didn't stick it.
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>> so to say, in many >> so i have to say, in many ways, damian groves is an inspiring story. would you recommend to other people who suffered serious theft hiring a private investigator? suffered serious theft hiring a pri\yeah,vestigator? suffered serious theft hiring a pri\yeah, 100. gator? suffered serious theft hiring a pri\yeah, 100. iftor? suffered serious theft hiring a pri\yeah, 100. if you. yeah yeah, >> yeah, 100. if you. yeah yeah, i'd do it all again. >> well, you've done it once successfully . i hope you never successfully. i hope you never have to do it again. yeah me too. thank you for coming on too. but thank you for coming on and sharing the story. great stuff. well there we are. there is some good news out there. he managed to get 36 grand's worth of bikes back and well done him. it couple of bob. now it cost him a couple of bob. now i'm joined by jacob rees—mogg. jacob, i just you know, i woke up this morning to see the front page of the financial times and thought you must be having a laugh. royston smith on laugh. we had royston smith on the , right? yes. earlier the program, right? yes. earlier on, conservative member of parliament. >> very man of hampton. >> very good man of hampton. >> very good man of hampton. >> i mean , you know, when he got >> i mean, you know, when he got his access request back his subject access request back from , i mean, they'd from the tsb, i mean, they'd virtually been tracking him as if was a foreign spy. what if he was a foreign spy. what the fca said today , doesn't that the fca said today, doesn't that damage the reputation of our
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financial regulator? and bear in mind of the world, the fca leaked its opinion in favour of the chief executive of coutts before went . before she went. >> yes. the fca has been behind a lot of this woke agenda , been a lot of this woke agenda, been enforcing it on people . they are enforcing it on people. they are wokeness personified and then they come up with a nonsense report that conveniently says you were out of scope. so the most important, most high profile case of de—banking for political reasons of a bank trying to shut down freedom of speech , the useless, incompetent speech, the useless, incompetent , failing fca doesn't have in scope, and it is current the organisation with the power to make banks behave properly if they do de—banking people for political reasons. and i just don't think that's good enough. we need legislation that actually ensures that this is above some failed regulator and it matters . it matters. >> it matters the world stage >> it matters on the world stage as well. you know, financial markets, the city of london was once the jewel in crown. once the jewel in the crown. should we sack these politicised administrators of the fca? >> should the fca just looks a
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laughing stock, i'm afraid andrew run very andrew bailey didn't run it very well in charge . it well when he was in charge. it didn't and what happened ? didn't work. and what happened? he promoted. so if you're an he got promoted. so if you're an incompetent running the you incompetent running the fca, you probably think you're in probably think you're next in line to come. >> your salary goes through the roof rest of it. roof and all the rest of it. well, i'm smiling, i've been well, i'm smiling, but i've been pretty fuming about i understandably, absolutely understandably, it's absolutely outrageous understandably, it's absolutely outrage sos understandably, it's absolutely outrageso stupid understandably, it's absolutely outrage so stupid that understandably, it's absolutely outrageso stupid that it will >> it's so stupid that it will make people realise the report is worthless. >> it's crackers . let's see what >> it's crackers. let's see what the weather is. maybe that'll cheer us up a little bit. >> the is rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again, i'm alex burkill and welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. we do have some further wet and perhaps thundery weather on the way some strong winds to way with some strong winds to the a very tightly the isobars, a very tightly packed at the moment which just illustrates that it is so blustery , so windy the moment blustery, so windy at the moment and pressure arriving, and low pressure arriving, bringing further wet bringing some further wet weather to many parts as well as
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weather to many parts as well as we go through the end of today. and overnight, we are going to have some heavy of rain, have some heavy bursts of rain, particularly parts particularly across parts of scotland. a warning in scotland. there is a warning in force and some further scotland. there is a warning in force rainfall. some further scotland. there is a warning in force rainfall. partssome further scotland. there is a warning in force rainfall. parts ofne further scotland. there is a warning in force rainfall. parts of westerner heavy rainfall. parts of western england and wales also are warning in force here. temperatures well , it temperatures for many well, it is going to be a mild start on wednesday morning, may wednesday morning, though it may not of the not feel it because of the unsettled weather . a band of not feel it because of the unsethen weather . a band of not feel it because of the unsethen iseather . a band of not feel it because of the unsethen is going . a band of not feel it because of the unsethen is going tox band of not feel it because of the unsethen is going to push! of not feel it because of the unsethen is going to push its rain then is going to push its way parts of way eastwards across parts of england and particular england and wales in particular with heavy bursts as we go with some heavy bursts as we go through the day. reaching parts of south—east into the of the south—east into the afternoon, some skies afternoon, some brighter skies across parts of scotland and northern ireland, but also a feed of showers coming in. and some these could heavy and some of these could be heavy and thundery temperatures should just to highs of just about get to highs of around celsius in the around 20 celsius in the south—east. but in the wind and the rain, it's not going to feel as that. that rain will as warm as that. that rain will eventually as eventually clear through as we go wednesday night go through wednesday night into thursday. so a brighter start for places on thursday. but for many places on thursday. but again, are going to see again, we are going to see plenty of showers and also some heavy showery feeding into heavy showery rain feeding into western of scotland in western parts of scotland in particular with the risk of some
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thunder . particular with the risk of some thunder. there will be some further unsettled weather through the end of week, but through the end of the week, but perhaps a bit drier to perhaps something a bit drier to start saturday. >> temperatures rising, boxt >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> hello, good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight what does russell brand tell us about our society and culture? well, it's not been found guilty, but the metropolitan police is currently considering the allegations made against him. but whether legal or not, it's not the question . or not, it's not the question. it's clear his behaviour was indulged. is this all a product of the 1960s when we abandoned our traditional absolute moral values ? thousands of jobs are at values? thousands of jobs are at stake in the british steel industry as the government invests £500 million in the port talbot steelworks . but what
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talbot steelworks. but what could be behind this threat to the industry? surely it couldn't be yet another case of net zero regulation as debilitating domestic production . the domestic production. the financial conduct authority has claimed in a new report that no politician, the fca , has claimed politician, the fca, has claimed in a report that no politician has been de—banking because of his or her political beliefs in spite of all the evidence from nigel farage subject access request. but the report it conducted didn't even cover nigel's case. and it seems this is nothing more than a whitewash . and the national health service braces itself for what could be the worst strike yet. doctors and consultants have taken the cruel decision to coordinate their disengagement of collective inaction. the nhs faces record waiting lists exacerbated by the hundreds of thousands of appointments cancelled by these terrible strikes . a state of the nation strikes. a state of the nation starts now , so .
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starts now, so. i'll be joined by an eminent panel this evening. former a tory mp and barrister jerry tory mp and barristerjerry hayes , and the author and hayes, and the author and broadcaster michael craig. as always, you know this. i want to hear from you. it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mail mog at gbnews.com. but now it's mail mog at gbnews.com. but now wsfime mail mog at gbnews.com. but now it's time for the news the it's time for the news of the day with middlehurst . day with polly middlehurst. >> jacob thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story tonight from the gp newsroom is that emergency measures are being put in place and commissioners are to be appointed to take over the day to day running of birmingham city council. they'll also be a local inquiry into the labour run authority after it was declared effectively bankrupt andifs declared effectively bankrupt and it's now facing a growing equal pay liability of around £1 billion. the communities secretary, michael gove, says today's action is aimed at protecting the interest rates of the city's residents . and also the city's residents. and also in the news, the home office is paying in the news, the home office is paying around £8 million a day
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