gb news. >> it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. and i'm going in with this, the latest madness when it comes to age verification checks for channel migrants. been verification checks for channel migra gillette been verification checks for channel migra gillette razors been verification checks for channel migra gillette razors studies)een verification checks for channel migra gillette razors studies ton using gillette razors studies to check how old these people are. you couldn't up. in you couldn't make it up. but in other the bibby barge. yes other news, the bibby barge. yes apparently now it's safe. no more legionella. long more legionella. how long will it actually see it be before we actually see people put on that barge? net zero great fanfare greeted people put on that barge? net zero sunak'sat fanfare greeted people put on that barge? net zero sunak's announcemented people put on that barge? net zero sunak's announcement about rishi sunak's announcement about the slowing down of net zero, but actually be but could it actually be reversed in the courts? what

kind of legal challenges is rishi going i've rishi sunak going to face? i've heard maugham is on heard that jolyon maugham is on the though, so inevitably the case though, so inevitably it'll going to it'll happen and we're going to be about this as well. be talking about this as well. yes, starmer as eu balls up. that's they're that's right. now they're following leader following the labour leader around and around with a giant mop and a bucket at the moment, to bucket at the moment, trying to row what he's been row back on what he's been saying rejoining eu, saying about rejoining the eu, not the european not diverging from the european union. has the slipped? union. has the mask slipped? and for we're for the first time now we're heanng for the first time now we're hearing talk of hung hearing serious talk of a hung parliament. wait, one more, i think, you well, haven't think, for you as well, haven't we? that's right. see if you we? yes that's right. see if you can guess what happens next here. man walking towards can guess what happens next herecorner man walking towards can guess what happens next herecorner manthere,1g towards can guess what happens next herecorner manthere, he.owards can guess what happens next herecorner manthere, he. oh rds the corner shop there, he. oh okay. all right. yes. it doesn't take it out, take a genius to work it out, but i will show you the full clip to hilarity in just a clip to much hilarity in just a tick. patrick christys. tick. it's patrick christys. it's there's loads on it's gb news. there's loads on apparently migrants pretending to be children will flee if they have to have an x ray. so we can tell how old they are. why would you flee if you were genuinely a child? gb views gbnews.com. but right now it's your headlines with tatiana . patrick.

with tatiana. patrick. >> thank you. good afternoon. 3:01. this is the latest . the 3:01. this is the latest. the home office has been ordered to stop construction work on a former raf air base that was set to house asylum seekers. west lindsey district council served an enforcement and stop notice, saying it was clear there had been a breach of planning control. the government plans to house up to 2000 people at raf scampton in lincolnshire, the first 50 are due to arrive within weeks . all major budget within weeks. all major budget decisions would be checked by office for budget responsibility under new plans by labour. office for budget responsibility under new plans by labour . sir under new plans by labour. sir keir starmer says it will ensure the mistakes of liz truss's so—called mini—budget, including higher mortgages and energy bills, are not repeated and the government says the aborted budget wasn't to blame for higher prices. but the labour leader says his plan will bring stability to britain's economy. >> a year ago , so huge damage >> a year ago, so huge damage was done to our economy and people are still paying the price that can never be allowed to happen again. so this is a

pragmatic, sensible measure. already other people are coming out, you know, former permanent secretaries, leading economists , saying this is a good idea for the stability of our economy. but this is focussed on working people and the pain that they've been through because of that disastrous mini—budget just a year ago, labour insists it's been clear about the party's red lines when it comes to britain's relations with the european union. >> sir keir starmer said he didn't want to diverge from eu rules and argued that the uk and brussels should share a future together . our shadow brussels should share a future together. our shadow financial secretary , james murray, told gb secretary, james murray, told gb news the labour leader was referring only to certain eu rules . rules. >> i think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down on uk standards. you know, when that comes to things like consumer protection and workers rights , food standards and so rights, food standards and so on, you know, that's what he was talking about. and was talking about. and he was talking about. and he was talking about. and he was talking about that very clearly in context of our red lines in the context of our red lines when it comes to our

relationship with the eu , you relationship with the eu, you know, and those red lines are around, know, not rejoining around, you know, not rejoining the single market or customs the single market or the customs union not bringing back union and not bringing back freedom movement. you know, freedom of movement. you know, we red lines, but we have those red lines, but within those red lines, we're clear that we need an clear that we do need an improved trading relationship with and that's we with the eu. and that's what we would seek to secure. >> the government has refused to confirm whether the hs2 rail project will connect central london with manchester. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says no decisions have been made, but suggests costs are getting out of control . but undersecretary of control. but undersecretary for transport richard holden says work on the project is still underway . still underway. >> what we've already got at the moment with hs2 is spades in the ground right across the country. billions of pounds have been invested in to in that first route up to birmingham. we've got tens of thousands of people working on the project really opening up parts of deprived parts of north london and parts of central birmingham. if you go there, you can see the transformational effect that it is happening. but it's right

also that the government ensures that of these big projects that all of these big projects are looked at properly in the round that costs are kept round and that costs are kept under . under control. >> chancellor says very >> the chancellor says very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible . tax cuts virtually impossible. while some of jeremy hunt's party colleagues , including party colleagues, including former prime minister liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news, mr hunt says he wishes that there were an option but the government must stick with its plan to bnng must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and interest rates . the return of interest rates. the return of summer weather last month helped retail sales recover, though there was a drop in the demand for fuel. figures from the office for national statistics show retail sales grew by 0.4. it said stronger interest in clothes shopping drove that increase, but fuel sales were 1.2% lower due to rising global prices. it comes afterjuly's prices. it comes after july's wet weather was blamed for people skipping their summer wardrobe shopping . now new wardrobe shopping. now new images of sarah sharif have been

released as police appeal for information about her family. in a statement, surrey police say they hope the pictures will prompt more people to come forward with information about the ten year old girl. she was found dead at her home in woking last month . her father, last month. her father, stepmother and uncle have all been charged with murder . and been charged with murder. and finally , the king and queen have finally, the king and queen have been cheered and applauded by crowds after arriving in south west france. her majesty was handed a bouquet of flowers after she and the king greeted hundreds of well—wishers outside bordeaux's town hall. they're due to tour a vineyard in the heart of france's wine country this afternoon as the final day of their state visit comes to a close . this is gb news across close. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . patrick well ,

now it's back to. patrick well, come to the latest instalment of the illegal migrant age verification farce. >> the home office says that between january 2016 and the year ending june 20th, 23, 49% of asylum applicants whose age was disputed were found to actually be adults . so nearly actually be adults. so nearly half. well, the government wants to bring in stricter age checks like x rays. et cetera . it's like x rays. et cetera. it's worth noting that 22 eu nations are using at least one type of medical age assessment . so we're medical age assessment. so we're not doing anything evil here. but get this human rights charities say it would be catastrophic because people claiming to be children might flee in fear of an age verification check . why would verification check. why would you do that if you were really a child? seriously refugee charities pipe up at this point and they go, well, it's because the home office, they get it. they get it wrong so much. we've had cases like a recent one where child was adjudged to be where a child was adjudged to be a 25 year old man. this is an outrage and it cannot stand. but those people are completely and

deliberate , missing the point deliberate, missing the point because we don't have enforced medical age verification checks. the office ends up doing the home office ends up doing things like using a report by a shaving company, gillette, to help judge whether or not somebody is an adult. i mean, you can see the adverts now, can't gillette the best can't you? gillette the best afghans get the same people afghans can get the same people who complain when the home office accidentally judges a child to be adult are the child to be an adult are the ones trying to ban any attempt at using accurate age at using more accurate age verification checks. now for the avoidance of doubt, let's be very about the very clear about what the current system is used by the home office to try to say between , let's say, a genuine between, let's say, a genuine child . between, let's say, a genuine child. right. between, let's say, a genuine child . right. and between, let's say, a genuine child. right. and a 40 year between, let's say, a genuine child . right. and a 40 year old child. right. and a 40 year old man from rural pakistan who could conceivably end up sitting at the back your daughter's at the back of your daughter's maths so the age maths class. so the age of a person arriving the uk is person arriving in the uk is normally established from the documents with which they have travelled . many who be travelled. many who claim to be children do not any children do not have any definitive documentary evidence to claimed age. so to support their claimed age. so that's issue where this is that's an issue where this is the case or where there is a dispute about and their

dispute about age and their claimed age is doubted by the home office and initial age assessment is then conducted. the home office will only treat someone claiming to be a child as an adult if two officers, one at least chief immigration officer, grade or equivalent have separately determined that the individual whose physical appearance and demeanour very strongly suggests that they are significantly over the age of 18. this threshold is set deliberately high in recognition of the difficulty in assessing an individual's age based on physical appearance or demeanour where doubts remain individual will be given the benefit of the doubt, pending further consideration by a local authority or the national age assessment board. untreated as a child for immigration purposes until further assessment of their age has been completed . their age has been completed. right. that's pretty thorough , right. that's pretty thorough, isn't it, really? it's also pretty lightweight. but you know what's quicker, easier, more accurate and more cost effective . x rays, dental checks , things

. x rays, dental checks, things like that. now, one bleeding heart liberal from a human rights organisation is quoted in the guardian as saying it's our view that this will result in children leaving accommodations in care settings, forcing them into harmful, in care settings, forcing them into harmful , exploitative into harmful, exploitative situations due to fear of undergoing the science procedures. we have spoken to colleagues elsewhere in europe who inform us that children often leave protection open if threatened with these assessments and many go missing. i think , frankly, many of them i think, frankly, many of them end up here, don't they? but i'm going to say something now that might . i might be very controversial. i don't care. and i don't care because i don't believe it. yesterday, i interviewed a human rights lawyer who looked me in the eye and expected me to believe that even if somebody broke into his own home in the dead of night, he wouldn't want them detained. and now i'm being asked to believe that genuine children so afraid of a children will be so afraid of a wrist x ray that they would run away no what they're away forever. no what they're afraid of is being found to be a

lying adult and then deported . lying adult and then deported. well, get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com. joining me now to further this discussion is gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, thank you very , very much. so some you very, very much. so some controversy about the age verification that's taking place at the moment involving a gillette razor here. >> yes , this was a young man who >> yes, this was a young man who came to the uk in october of 2021, arrived on a small boat. >> he was initially interviewed by immigration officers and told them that he was under the age of 18. they had carried out their own assessment, which is very cursory. it's less than ideal for all the points that you've gone through, and it's always going to be subjective , always going to be subjective, active in that sense , and that's active in that sense, and that's why they always err on the side of if someone looks is very

obviously over 18, then they'll assume or presume that that person may not be under 18 as they're claiming and go forward on that basis . what it means, of on that basis. what it means, of course, is many people who are a bit borderline , who maybe look bit borderline, who maybe look a bit borderline, who maybe look a bit young for their age and they're actually be over 18 by quite a few years , are not even quite a few years, are not even considered odd because it's borderline and we don't know whether they might be 18 or not anyway , this young person was anyway, this young person was assessed by these border force officials to be 25 rather than under 18. they appealed. they went to a special immigration in court. the judge in that court , court. the judge in that court, with reference to some documentation that this young person had, and also just assessing all of the other facts that this judge had. has come to the conclusion that this young person was 16 rather than 25.

and it came out during a lot of the evidence that was explored in this appeal by this young man's lawyers that among the criteria and the checks that the home office officials were doing, they were relying on a report by gillette, the razor company . me into what age ? young company. me into what age? young people start shaving . it sounds people start shaving. it sounds ludicrous, but this is where we're at because they can't carry out at the moment these x rays or mri checks on someone to verify their age . they have to verify their age. they have to do it by using all of these other methods. so for instance, the hearing was told that the assessors also had to use other factors like the young asylum seekers, thick eyebrows , those seekers, thick eyebrows, those stubble defined the adam's apple and triangle fuller face shape . and triangle fuller face shape. right? so the judge in his observation said that, you know,

observations about a person's appearance , behaviour and appearance, behaviour and demeanour were inherently subjective and not properly capable of bearing evidential weight. it's clear it's not at all suitable . so clearly a more all suitable. so clearly a more scientific approach is what's called for , and that's what is called for, and that's what is happening now . the government happening now. the government have said in response to this ruling they'll take that on board and see what lessons can be learned, but also added that from next year , as they will from next year, as they will have. and it's being put through parliament at the moment, it was an amendment to the law that was put through by the ministry of justice in parliament yesterday . they will carry out x rays that will involve x rays of the teeth, x rays of someone's wrists , mri scans of knees and wrists, mri scans of knees and collarbone areas as well , checks collarbone areas as well, checks that are commonplace for anybody that are commonplace for anybody that goes massively invasive is the thing as well. >> and if you do want a lifetime

of free time and to live in one of free time and to live in one of the best countries in the world, i mean, i would have thought that that's not the most egregious not egregious thing. well, not not invasive at all. >> and how many people undergo. so, , x rays when so, you know, x rays when they're at the dentist for a dental check and for lots of other reasons , it would be x other reasons, it would be x rays and mri scans are held. and i think this is actually quite a weak to put it put it mildly, risk bonds from the charities to suggest that children born or people who claim to be under 18 are suddenly going to run off because they're so afraid of an x ray. it just it stretches credibility. >> and it also actually proves , >> and it also actually proves, for example, my point, actually, which is that if you wanted to have as much avoidance of doubt as possible and you wanted to make this poor , poor make sure that this poor, poor 16 year old chap and no one else like him is wrongly identified as an adult , then why wouldn't as an adult, then why wouldn't you be okay for them to have something like an x ray or a

dental scan? et cetera. and it would be fascinating for to would be fascinating for me to see would happen if that see what would happen if that individual broke see what would happen if that indiv wrist broke see what would happen if that indiv wrist or broke see what would happen if that indiv wrist or needed broke see what would happen if that indiv wrist or needed some'oke their wrist or needed some urgent dental work, whether or not consent to not they would then consent to have at the taxpayer's have that at the taxpayer's expense. i suspect expense. and i suspect the answer very answer would be yes. just very quickly, mark, before we go to our next guest who's going to talk me the bibby talk to me about the bibby stockholm, there's stockholm, because there's an update been update there. there's also been an update on the quality of hotels that we a minimum an update on the quality of hotelzof1at we a minimum an update on the quality of hotelzof1at we of a minimum an update on the quality of hotelzof1at we of migrantnum level of quality of migrant hotel . hotel. >> e“- f that's about the >> so yeah, that's about the contracts at the home is contracts at the home office is putting out tender really for putting out to tender really for accommodation for asylum seekers and there is an existing contract it's still running that doesn't specify by the standard of hotel that any asylum seeker can be held in. so it can be a very basic hotel indeed . but very basic hotel indeed. but there is a new contract that was signed in february of this year that specifies that any hotel housing asylum seekers under this contract has to be at least a three star hotel. so that is of concern under doubtedly when you have the home secretary

herself saying that she is very concerned about the escalating costs of these hotels and wants to get asylum seekers out of these hotels into former raaf bases or indeed , as you're just bases or indeed, as you're just about to talk about the bibby stockholm. yeah, indeed. >> i can just see a flood of people now who live near a three star hotel just going around in people now who live near a three stardeadl just going around in people now who live near a three stardead of|st going around in people now who live near a three stardead of night ng around in people now who live near a three stardead of night and round in people now who live near a three stardead of night and removing the dead of night and removing one from the side one of the stars from the side outside. there we go. outside. but there we go. anyway, mark, thank very anyway, mark, thank you very much. our home much. mark white there, our home security story that mark was another story that mark was alluding to. it's been around a month of month since the outbreak of legionella bibby legionella on board the bibby stockholm suella stockholm barge scuppered suella braverman plans to house migrants new migrants there. but a new freedom information request freedom of information request reported in the guardian of all places, revealed that the places, has revealed that the bibby has now received bibby barge has now received a satisfactory bibby barge has now received a satis factory result for satis factory test result for legionella wu, a detail that the home office did not plan revealing to the public. interesting though. so does that mean it's time to get the bibby back in business or has suella braverman given up the bibby farce? certainly isn't going anywhere. but joining me now is kevin saunders , former

kevin saunders, former chief immigration uk immigration officer for uk border force at calais. kevin thank you very, very much. so presumably then it is time to get people on this barge? >> it certainly is. i mean, it's excellent news that the barge is now legionella free. the other tests have been done and they've been satisfactory paths . so now been satisfactory paths. so now all we need is to put the migrants back on the boat . migrants back on the boat. >> okay. and the idea that there was once legionella on board this and that it might now not be fit for anybody who is also got a deep seated trauma of water, you you think that that shouldn't prevent it ? shouldn't prevent it? >> deep seated trauma for water when they've come across the mediterranean in a rickety old boat and then across the channel in a rubber dinghy ? no, i'm in a rubber dinghy? no, i'm sorry, patrick. that one doesn't work. >> well, people people might say, kevin, that that's what's traumatised them. to be fair. >> um, no , they're sorry that

>> um, no, they're sorry that that just is not that is not going to work. i'm sorry. there are 500 places on the boat on the bibby stockholm and we're to going put 500 people on there and if they don't like it, well , hell, i'm sorry. they're not going into a hotel. >> well, it would have to be a three star hotel. now minimum kevin as well, which will come as a relief to absolutely everybody, especially relief everybody, especially a relief to who happens live to anybody who happens to live next two star hotel . next door to a two star hotel. but, kevin, do you fear that after hoo ha that the after the big hoo ha that the home secretary might have given up ? no. up on the barge? no. >> i don't. i don't think >> no, i don't. i don't think so. i think there was a lot of frustration about the barge. but it is an idea that's worked. it's worked in the netherlands. so so there's no reason why it shouldn't work in the uk . and, shouldn't work in the uk. and, you know, if we're going to cut down on the use of hotels . and down on the use of hotels. and the good news is that we are 55

hotels have now come off the housing migrants. so we are winning slowly there. but if we can use these places like the bibby stockholm and scampton and westerfield and perhaps even some more, that will make it much , much better for people much, much better for people living near these hotels . living near these hotels. >> so, kevin, thank you very, very much. it's kevin saunders there. he's former chief immigration officer for uk border force at calais. two big stories coming down the road from there, which is going to be the cost of the refurb to these hotels. taxpayer funded hotels. british taxpayer funded , fact that , of course, and the fact that once people out of once we've got people out of hotels, all often they're hotels, all too often they're going so what going to be homeless. so what happens still to happens there? but still to come, from net come, a reset from rishi on net zero, but with environmentalists up and some of these up in arms and some of these targets enshrined in law, what doesit targets enshrined in law, what does it mean now ? net zero is does it mean now? net zero is going to go to the courts . going to go to the courts. patrick christys gb news, britain's .

about. every sunday morning. at 9.30 we are packing in to 90 minutes. solid, punchy politics with a bit of a twist. we not only want to inform you, but we want to keep you entertained. >> the camilla tominey show sunday on gb news. >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> it is 324. you are watching or listening to me. patrick christys on gb news now rishi sunakis christys on gb news now rishi sunak is likely to face a series of legal challenges aimed at preventing his to water preventing his plans to water down net zero policies, at down net zero policies, or at least them down a little least slow them down a little bit despite being bit anyway. but despite being met with criticism over . the

met with criticism over. the move, the pm has shrugged off the naysayers, insisting that the naysayers, insisting that the uk will still hit its 2050 net zero target to look . if you net zero target to look. if you were seriously concerned and about whether or not the prime minister is going to be held up in courts by this and in the courts by this and whether still whether or not you're still going having to buy a going to end up having to buy a new all of new garson boiler and all of this then you should this stuff, then you should probably a little look as probably have a little look as i will go about one of the will go on to about one of the individuals who's going to bring this court case against the government and his track record. but is jim dale, government and his track record. but senior is jim dale, government and his track record. but senior meteorologistn dale, government and his track record. but senior meteorologist at)ale, the senior meteorologist at british service. thank the senior meteorologist at britivery service. thank the senior meteorologist at britivery much, service. thank the senior meteorologist at britivery much, jim. ice. thank the senior meteorologist at britivery much, jim. look,1ank the senior meteorologist at britivery much, jim. look, should you very much, jim. look, should the challenged in the government be challenged in the government be challenged in the zero? what's the courts over net zero? what's . the risk here? >> the answer to the question is, is, yeah, we've always got to look at what government puts out there and the science should lead the politics, not the other way around. in this the way around. in this case, the politics science. politics is leading the science. and so those that those those that gone blank. that my screen's gone blank. i don't you can don't know whether you can see me. can hear me?

me. can you hear me? >> i've got you. we're off to a flyer here, jim. >> continue. >> yeah, i'll continue. yeah. the should the the science should lead the politics, not the other way around. and on this day, i'll make it absolutely clear. this is that. that we haven't is a day that. that we haven't really focussed all of really focussed on why all of this . happening in the first this is. happening in the first place. and it's to do with weather extremes, climate extremes and what's gone in the last few years. and on this day we've heard that heat deaths in england in 2022, 4507 england and wales in 2022, 4507 versus cold deaths, 1214 as overtaken for the first time. so that's a clear direction of travel and it is why the likes of the good law and friends of the earth are taking the steps that they will take to that they probably will take to mean law project mean good, good law project loses that it does. >> jolly and more and more so now sticking up for the environment despite a environment despite clubbing a fox in his own . fox to death in his own. back yard and whilst wearing his wife's kimono a few years ago. so now suddenly cares about

so now he suddenly cares about the but i mean, the environment. but i mean, if the environment. but i mean, if the government is saying that they're the they're going to hit the net zero 2050 anyway, zero targets by 2050 anyway, we're down some of we're just slowing down some of the costs of it, then what's the problem? the problem problem? well the problem is, is it's going into reverse. problem? well the problem is, is it's thisg into reverse. problem? well the problem is, is it's this isn't) reverse. problem? well the problem is, is it's this isn't) rev know, there is >> this isn't you know, there is a urgency about a certain urgency about us actually and actually moving forward and negating weather. negating some of the weather. experian ices, the weather catastrophes happening, catastrophes that are happening, just not necessarily in the uk, although happened although that's that's happened enough couple of enough over the last couple of years. will we to years. but will we have to play a this? we can't be seen a part in this? we can't be seen to going backwards . and why to be going backwards. and why not? jim? jim, sorry. to be going backwards. and why not? jim? jim, sorry . sorry, jim. >> why can't we be seen to be going backwards? do you care more about. about what? xi jinping in china thinks than doreen doncaster can't doreen from doncaster who can't afford stuff? >> think there's >> well, look, i think there's a big, big difference between the doncaster in doncaster lady and ji ping in terms their in terms their position. >> the doreen in doncaster votes in jim. pays in this country. jim. she pays taxes here. xi jinping in this country. jim. she pays taxbut here. xi jinping in this country. jim. she pays taxbut look,are. xi jinping in this country. jim. she pays taxbut look, ife. xi jinping in this country. jim. she pays taxbut look, ife. xiwant ng it. but look, if we want a future patrick, if we want a future patrick, if we want a future in terms of where this where the world is going and it's not going where we came from industrial from back to the industrial revolution, it's going in the

other direction . other direction. >> and if we want to be world leaders, then we have to take a stance. but it isn't just about the economy. make this absolutely clear. i'm a meteorologist. i've been meteorologist. i've been meteorologist for 40 i meteorologist for 40 years. i understand, and i've seen meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata nd, and i've seen meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata and and i've seen meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata and i've nd i've seen meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata and i've seen'e seen meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata and i've seen howan meteorologist for 40 years. i unddata and i've seen how the the data and i've seen how the weather has changed. >> on, jim. jim use >> and so. go on, jim. jim use the data then to tell me about what i announced what rishi sunak i announced a couple ago. is that couple of days ago. how is that going in itself affect the going to in itself affect the weather here? >> every time we >> because every every time we put things in terms put put things forward in terms of change, it's of negating climate change, it's a right direction. a step in the right direction. now, . don't know what those now, we. don't know what those steps are going to be like . in steps are going to be like. in five years, ten years or 15. but we have to be going in that simple direction forward so that we don't we don't go into this reverse gear and all this absurd stuff you stuff about saying, oh, you know, going to ban the know, we're going to ban the potential eating meat or potential of not eating meat or too people car or not. potential of not eating meat or too this people car or not. potential of not eating meat or too this iseople car or not.

potential of not eating meat or too this is juste car or not. potential of not eating meat or too this is just absolute' or not. and this is just absolute rubbish. he's making political rubbish. he's making a political stance. absolutely rubbish. he's making a political stance he's absolutely rubbish. he's making a political stance he's aa;olutely rubbish. he's making a political stance he's aa political clear. he's making a political move. to say to move. and i've got to say to take it away from the far right, the reform party, in terms of what they're doing. >> you understand what >> jim, do you understand what you've there? you you've just done there? so you so said that we're going so you've said that we're going into reverse, a lie . into reverse, which is a lie. we're going out of fifth gear and into about third gear. okay. so that's what we're doing and that's about affordability. and i think i'll tell you what, jim. i'll you what, jim, you i'll tell you what, jim, you would your metric would be amazed by your metric to many far right people to see how many far right people are have are out there. go and have a walk around country and see walk around this country and see how many people are very sceptical of sceptical about the pace of net zero you they're zero and what you think they're all far right. you? zero and what you think they're all well,|ht. you? zero and what you think they're all well,|ht. not'ou? zero and what you think they're all well,|ht. not saying all of >> well, i'm not saying all of them but but certainly in them are, but but certainly in terms response we see terms of the response as we see and political parties and where the political parties stand, that stand, then then that that that is the case. stand, then then that that that is what the case. stand, then then that that that is what do the case. stand, then then that that that is what do you the case. stand, then then that that that is what do you mean case. stand, then then that that that is what do you mean responses? >> what do you mean responses? we swallow up some we see moving to swallow up some of that the reform party we see moving to swallow up some of got that the reform party we see moving to swallow up some of got becausez reform party we see moving to swallow up some of got because thatorm party we see moving to swallow up some of got because that isn party we see moving to swallow up some of got because that isn pa of have got because that is one of their main party political their main main party political points they make about points that they make about climate change and net zero saying not zero. >> , you know, that's where

>> so, you know, that's where that's the direction of travel. it's 50, 50% of people . it's 50, 50% of people. >> jim thought that what rishi sunak said was a good idea, about. sunak said was a good idea, about . 32 to 34% about. 32 to 34% thought it wasn't . so 50% of the people in wasn't. so 50% of the people in this country you think are? >> i think that i'm not saying that. said, never use word. that. said, never use the word. look, plenty of polls look, i've seen plenty of polls on came out at the on the main poll came out at the local elections when nation local elections when the nation voted, of them, voted, albeit 30 odd% of them, where in of where for those in favour of net zero in direction zero moving in that direction were mark. those were around the 60% mark. those against around 20% were around the 60% mark. those againsthe around 20% were around the 60% mark. those againsthe didn'td 20% were around the 60% mark. those againsthe didn't know20% were around the 60% mark. those againsthe didn't know where mark. the rest didn't know where they that's the true they were. so that's the true definition of this. this will come in washing. to come out in the washing. but to go first thing, go back to your first thing, first science first question, look, science has to lead in this. first question, look, science has to lead in this . case it has to lead in this. case it can't be a politic . can't be a politic. action. the climate committee, the climate committee that looks overseas is

apparently getting a new chairman. that person be apparently getting a new pruppet. that person be apparently getting a new pruppet ofhat person be apparently getting a new pruppet of government. be apparently getting a new pruppet of government. that be a puppet of government. that person and person has to be independent and scrutinise government person has to be independent and sc actually government person has to be independent and scactually saying government person has to be independent and sc actually saying go doing. ent person has to be independent and sc actually saying go doing. so is actually saying and doing. so there's thing we'll there's another thing that we'll be going be looking out for going forward. be looking out for going forvlt's. be looking out for going forvlt's interesting, though, be looking out for going forvltit,interesting, though, be looking out for going forvltit, because|g, though, be looking out for going forvltit, because you1ough, be looking out for going forvltit, because you say|h, be looking out for going forvltit, because you say there isn't it, because you say there can't of government, isn't it, because you say there can'presumably of government, isn't it, because you say there can'presumably you're overnment, isn't it, because you say there can'presumably you're perfectlyit, but presumably you're perfectly happy with just stop oil donating the party. donating to the labour party. >> they choose they >> they will choose where they wish if wish wish to donate. if they wish to donate so donate to the green party. so that's all right. >> the labour party got >> so if the labour party got in and they'd taken money from a climate group stop climate group like just stop oil, right . climate group like just stop oil, right. that oil, that's all right. that wouldn't make that wouldn't make them a puppet of the climate party. >> yeah, the labour party and other parties will will decide which direction of travel that they labour which direction of travel that they isn't labour which direction of travel that they isn't scientific labour which direction of travel that they isn't scientific labcin party isn't a scientific body in its that its own right. i would hope that whether party, whether it be the labour party, the tory party or any other party that proper party that they take proper expert if they expert scientific advice if they take they'll steering take that, they'll be steering in direction. in the right direction. >> then, jim. >> very finally then, jim. so if we we have we have if we were to have a democratically elected government wanted government that wanted to introduce that introduce a policy that the polling seemingly polling shows is over, seemingly favourable by the british public, you still that public, you still think that that the

that should be held up by the courts . yes. courts. yes. >> i don't think we're going to see a referendum. that's the first thing to say. the last referendum will look at the trouble that that's brought. >> want a referendum, >> you don't want a referendum, do though, be fair, >> you don't want a referendum, do i though, be fair, >> you don't want a referendum, do i mindrgh, be fair, >> you don't want a referendum, do i mind ah, be fair, >> you don't want a referendum, do i mind a referendum in no, i don't mind a referendum in terms of if there was there terms of if there was a if there was, terms of if there was a if there waslet me let me put it this >> let me let me put it this way. confident. way. i'm very, very confident. if of net zero, if there was a vote of net zero, that it would come out more or less the poll less in the favour of the poll that was taken at the local elections. have agree to >> well, we'll have to agree to disagree. but jim, thank you very jim our senior very much. jim dale, our senior meteorologist british meteorologist at the british weather meteorologist at the british weatistill to between now meteorologist at the british wea 4:00. to between now meteorologist at the british wea 4:00. labour's between now meteorologist at the british wea4:00. labour's beenzen now meteorologist at the british wea 4:00. labour's been forcedv meteorologist at the british wea4:big labour's been forcedv meteorologist at the british wea4:big brexitr's been forcedv meteorologist at the british wea4:big brexit cleanupforcedv meteorologist at the british wea4:big brexit cleanup withdv into a big brexit cleanup with mps backtracking . mps out in force backtracking. on sir keir starmer's comments about a closer relationship with the eu . we will have all the the eu. we will have all the latest on that very, very shortly. but right it's time shortly. but right now it's time for tatiana for your news with tatiana sanchez. for your news with tatiana sanchez . patrick thank you. sanchez. patrick thank you. >> this is the latest from the newsroom . home office has been newsroom. home office has been ordered construction newsroom. home office has been ordered a construction newsroom. home office has been ordered a former»nstruction newsroom. home office has been ordered a former base ction newsroom. home office has been ordered a former base that was work on a former base that was set house seekers.

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in the atlantic. ahead. of that, there's a little ridge of high pressure . will bring most of us pressure. will bring most of us a fine day tomorrow. but ahead of that, we've seen lots of showers today and still quite a few around evening. few of them around this evening. some quite of some heavy ones, quite a lot of spray and surface water the spray and surface water on the roads heading this roads if you're heading out this evening. will roads if you're heading out this eventhrough will roads if you're heading out this eventhrough evening.will roads if you're heading out this eventhrough evening. so. fade through the evening. so most dry. most places will become dry. some spells. some lengthy, clear spells. the winds ease and it turns quite chilly. temperatures well down into single digits, a touch of frost the frost is possible in the countryside northern countryside over northern england, northern ireland and scotland. fresh scotland. so a pretty fresh start to the weekend. but for most of us, it's going to be a cracking day tomorrow. there will showers early will be a few showers early on over lincolnshire . over lincolnshire. and parts of norfolk too. the odd ones still over the northern isles of scotland, where it remains fairly breezy. for fairly breezy. but for most light dry, bright, light winds dry, bright, some hazy on, some hazy sunshine. later on, some rain northern rain will head into northern ireland. temperatures recovering after that chilly start, but still below still maybe a touch below average time of year. average for the time of year. sunday's story. sunday's a very different story. rain and rain comes in overnight and

further for further pulses of rain for wales. northern ireland and especially scotland especially parts of scotland could cause some problems. so we have a met office yellow warning in and in place here. many central and eastern dry eastern parts will stay dry through the day. it will turn windy also windy everywhere, but it's also going turn a warmer. going to turn a bit warmer. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> it has genuinely been a fascinating week in politics. and is the tide turning when it comes next election comes to the next election already? sunak okay has already? rishi sunak okay has reset over net zero as we've just been hearing about and it looks like brexit is about to rear its head again with this clip of sir keir starmer emerging . most of the conflict emerging. most of the conflict with . the uk being outside of

with. the uk being outside of the uk arises in so far as the uk wants to diverge and do different things to the rest of our eu partners is obviously the more we values , the more more we share values, the more we future the we share a future together, the less act and less the conflict act and actually ways actually different ways of solving are become solving problems are become available . so he doesn't really available. so he doesn't really want to diverge at all. well, with that little slip up there, the clean up operation has now gone into overdrive. they've got a giant . mop and a bucket a giant. mop and a bucket and they're walking around behind keir starmer because labour mps are forced to fix his mess. here's what labour's james murray, financial murray, the shadow financial secretary to the treasury of the united news united kingdom, said on gb news this . this morning. >> look, think what he was >> so look, i think what he was talking >> so look, i think what he was talkfact that we have no the fact that we have no interest watering down uk interest in watering down uk standards. when standards. you know, when that comes consumer comes to things like consumer protection and workers rights, food you food standards and so on, you know, talking food standards and so on, you know, and talking food standards and so on, you know, and he talking food standards and so on, you know, and he was talking alking food standards and so on, you know, and he was talking about about. and he was talking about that in the context that very clearly in the context of our red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu , you know, and those red lines

are around . are around. you know, not rejoining the single market or the customs union and not bringing back freedom of movement. you know, we have those red lines, but within those red lines, but within those clear those red lines, we're clear that improved that we do need an improved trading the that we do need an improved tradand the that we do need an improved tradand that's the that we do need an improved tradand that's would eu. and that's what we would seek secure so we could sign seek to secure so we could sign ourselves some kind ourselves up to some kind of asylum seeker scheme. >> won't >> oh, no, don't worry, we won't be be doing be doing we won't be doing anything some be doing we won't be doing anytiofg some be doing we won't be doing anytiofg deal some be doing we won't be doing anytiofg deal with some be doing we won't be doing anytiofg deal with the some kind of new deal with the european union. yeah. okay. we'll go and meet emmanuel we'll go over and meet emmanuel macron. really macron. oh, no, we didn't really talk much about. about a new deal talk much about. about a new deal. worry any deal. don't worry about any of that. want diverge that. we don't want to diverge at european union. at all from the european union. we we we don't want that. no, we definitely definitely definitely we definitely don't want be . in the single market want to be. in the single market and the customs union. there's going to be no. come on, what is it? what's happening at the moment party? it? what's happening at the momen'saying party? it? what's happening at the momen'saying one party? it? what's happening at the momen'saying one thing party? it? what's happening at the momen'saying one thing pa|the they're saying one thing on the world thing world stage and one thing to us plebs at aren't plebs back here at home, aren't they? today they? but in an exclusive today with our very political with our very own political edhon with our very own political editor, hope, this with our very own political

editishadow hope, this with our very own political editishadow iminister; was shadow health minister wes streeting was shadow health minister wes str necessarily >> and they don't necessarily have come to have to do that if they come to power, on aisle power, clean up on aisle everywhere for sir keir starmer. but discuss but joining me now to discuss what's sir what's been a rough week for sir keir editor. keir is our political editor. christopher keir is our political editor. chri very,er keir is our political editor. chri very, very where you very, very much. where is the actually on the labour party? actually on brexit eu deal? keir brexit and an eu deal? keir starmer one starmer needs to be saying one thing. you shouldn't have starmer needs to be saying one thingthat. you shouldn't have starmer needs to be saying one thingthat. yilet'souldn't have starmer needs to be saying one thingthat. yilet'souldthe�*iave said that. keir let's say the opposite wokeist . starmer says, opposite wokeist. starmer says, is that they recognise . that

is that they recognise. that vote from 2016 on how it dealt with sovereignty and given making parliament sovereign over our decisions. >> what's debates about >> what's what the debates about is mean? is what does brexit mean? we remember, how remember, don't we, patrick how theresa saying theresa may had problems saying what brexit meant. brexit meant brexit. all. brexit. i meant nothing at all. they say, well, they are trying to say, well, we think being closer think brexit means being closer tied european union, tied to the european union, doing deals small doing deals on small boats, doing deals on small boats, doing areas, doing deals on small boats, doing climate areas, doing deals on small boats, doing climate change areas, doing deals on small boats, doing climate change thatareas, doing deals on small boats, doing climate change that kind on on climate change that kind of see it as of thing. the tories see it as a way to branch out into the world and trade more with the far east, be more bold . east, be more bold. on the world stage. and so there's two different competing visions of what brexit mean? what what does brexit mean? but what they're about they're very clear about and i think wes streeting very think wes streeting was very clear the clear just then in, in the studios gb that studios here for gb news, that they relitigate studios here for gb news, that th and for the first time ever, there's these whiffs now of there's these whiffs now of there's a good leader in the times actually, about whether or not the lib dems are going to be times actually, about whether or not broker» dems are going to be times actually, about whether or not broker ofems are going to be times actually, about whether or

not broker of a1s are going to be times actually, about whether or not broker of a hung going to be times actually, about whether or not broker of a hung parliament. the broker of a hung parliament. and, know, these noises are and, you know, these noises are starting now . starting to come now. and i just wonder, the more that sir keir starmer opens his mouth, the more i suspect that the labour starmer opens his mouth, the more wishes ct that the labour starmer opens his mouth, the more wishes he :hat the labour starmer opens his mouth, the more wishes he hadn'te labour starmer opens his mouth, the more wishes he hadn't .labour party wishes he hadn't. >> these remarks, of >> well, these remarks, of course, on the world course, are made on the world stage audience stage in montreal to an audience which maybe doesn't know uk politics very well. he's trying to global and to talk to a global audience and which labour which of course is why labour are to explain he are trying to explain what he meant in a series of meant repeatedly in a series of interviews. ever since. yeah, i think he's he's trying to set out they see the, the uk out where they see the, the uk they see as quite they see us as being quite closely aligned, closely aligned to and some might think to the eu and some might think those who voted . for brexit those who voted. for brexit might think, well what's the point of that? we . may as well point of that? we. may as well be in the eu and have a say about the things we're signing up to, not not push out into the atlantic try and forge atlantic and try and forge our own together. think own future together. so i think that debate that's own future together. so i think that to debate that's own future together. so i think that to happen. bate that's own future together. so i think that to happen. and that's own future together. so i think that to happen. and certainly going to happen. and certainly if this idea of a hung parliament happens as you say, which think is possible.

which i think is possible. patrick definitely that patrick definitely possible that the lib dems become this kind of broker a labour led broker in a in a in a labour led government. may demand broker in a in a in a labour led gover| some . may demand broker in a in a in a labour led gover| some . ofiay demand broker in a in a in a labour led gover|some. of brexit. demand broker in a in a in a labour led gover|some. of brexit. soemand broker in a in a in a labour led gover|some. of brexit. so he nd broker in a in a in a labour led govethisne. of brexit. so he nd broker in a in a in a labour led gove this now, of brexit. so he nd broker in a in a in a labour led govethis now, of b opening he nd says this now, but it's opening the think weekend the way i think to this weekend the way i think to this weekend the it may the lib dem conference. it may it an issue. it may become an issue. >> yeah 100. christopher thank you very much and great you very very much and great stuff with wes streeting earlier . as well as christopher hope there he's our political editor. it's really interesting times this it's been a bumper week, genuinely this it's been a bumper week, genuineiwe've rishi sunak's country. we've had rishi sunak's net and wherever net zero stuff and wherever you are a seismic are on that, it was a seismic change political change in the political landscape for first landscape because for the first time leader, time we had a political leader, a and a prime minister coming out and putting blue putting some clear blue water between opposition. between him and the opposition. and followed is and then what's also followed is keir starmer coming out and getting kerfuffle over getting into a kerfuffle over eu asylum into asylum seekers, getting into a kerfuffle about votes for kids, which i don't think is particularly popular. now we've got this talk of what would a new look like. now got this talk of what would a new even look like. now got this talk of what would a new even got look like. now got this talk of what would a new even got talk: like. now got this talk of what would a new even got talk of, (e. now got this talk of what would a new even got talk of, well, w we've even got talk of, well, hang can hang on a minute, he can say what . likes now, what he. likes now, but if he

becomes increasingly unpopular and relies on the liberal democrats, we going to end democrats, are we going to end up for up with it being a red line for the lib dems go the lib dems to go into coalition some coalition that we have some kind of this? again, coalition that we have some kind of fascinating this? again, coalition that we have some kind of fascinating this’iingain, yes, fascinating times in british sense british politics and i sense that is starting british politics and i sense th.change is starting british politics and i sense th.change but; starting british politics and i sense th.change but a;tarting british politics and i sense th.change but a year1g to change a bit. but a year since liz truss's mini—budget, gosh, called kamikaze since liz truss's mini—budget, gosithat called kamikaze since liz truss's mini—budget, gosithat calstill kamikaze since liz truss's mini—budget, gosithat calstill kamikthe and that we're still paying the price today. labour, they price for it today. labour, they want obr more want to give the obr more powers. hey, this good powers. hey, is this a good idea? i'll be joined by liam halligan, our economics and business editor. very, very shortly whether or shortly to look at whether or not right and where not liz was right and where we are financially. not liz was right and where we are christysnancially. not liz was right and where we are christysnan�*news, patrick christys gb news, britain's .

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news, britain's news. channel >> welcome back . it is 3:45. >> welcome back. it is 3:45. you're watching and listening me patrick christys on news right? so it's one year since liz truss's mini—budget, the infamous fiscal event sparked a huge economic fallout and it was ultimately the undoing of liz truss after the markets were spooked when the office for budget responsibility forecasts were not published alongside the plans. well today labour have pledged to give more powers to the obr . they claim it will stop the obr. they claim it will stop truss's disastrous mistakes being repeated, but there is quite a lot to unpack here and here to do it is economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . yeah. two key with on the money. yeah. two key points here for me, which is i suppose was liz truss. right now she's getting on now but also the obr giving them a bit more power. is that a good thing or not from labour. >> well liz truss started this

week by her first week by making her first big speech being basically speech since being basically bundled of office last bundled out of office last autumn. having been the shortest serving prime minister in british history and the essence of her speech was, look , the of her speech was, look, the situation under me wasn't all that bad. even though you all think it was interest rates and mortgage rates when i was in office, were lower than they are now, all of which true. she now, all of which is true. she also was trying to convey why it was that she didn't ask the office for budget responsibility to check her fiscal plans back at the time of that controversial mini—budget in september october . 20, 22, controversial mini—budget in september october. 20, 22, and labour are kind of trying to piggy labour are kind of trying to piggy back on what she's saying by, by, by, by by pledging when they're in office that anything they're in office that anything they do fiscally, they will get they do fiscally, they will get the office of budget responsible involved. the obe is of course a group of independent civil servants, servants who scrutinise government spending plans and basically, patrick say whether or not they think they

stack up . stack up. >> but is that okay? i mean, how independent are they? should they be getting more power? have they be getting more power? have they been right previously? well, liz truss says that she didn't ask them to look over her plans last september or october because it was indeed mini—budget. >> the scope of the measures she claims was relatively small compared to a usual budget or autumn statement. i think what's also in the offing here is that also in the offing here is that a lot of people feel that the obr is unduly pessimistic. they always seem to overstate the amount the government's going to spend and understate the amount that the government is going to collect in tax revenue. so whatever the government does, the fiscal position, according to obr forecast , lasts often to the obr forecast, lasts often turns out to be a lot better because the outcomes aren't nearly as gloomy as the obr suggests . and liz truss said in suggests. and liz truss said in her speech earlier this week, andindeed her speech earlier this week, and indeed when i interviewed her afterwards, she said that these obr forecasts , they these obr forecasts, they actually forced her hand . they

actually forced her hand. they stopped her as an elected politician, indeed a prime minister doing what she wanted to do because information was leaked from the obr, whether by obr officials or other ministers who had seen obr estimates it got into financial markets . got into financial markets. financial markets took umbrage before truss had a chance to explain herself . and so truss explain herself. and so truss wasn't able to do what she wanted to do. so this whole debate about the power of the obr, it really goes back to what is called in culture wars terms , you know, ministers versus the blob. the obr is seen to be part of the blob in some eyes. i would say objectively, the obr has been pretty out of whack over recent years . it has indeed over recent years. it has indeed been overly pessimistic compared to outcomes and also when it forecasts, patrick, it never really takes into account the implications. oh, if we lower taxes , you may get some more taxes, you may get some more growth, so you may get some more. >> that's a fascinating that is an absolutely fascinating point

and key point going forward and a key point going forward with what labour appeared to be suggesting so realistically, suggesting. so realistically, putting weight onto the obr putting more weight onto the obr when it comes to the government's own decision making, would probably making, etcetera, would probably mean higher tax. >> it probably would it would probably mean a more statist outcome. look, there's this. i know it's friday afternoon, but let's just with me. let's just just bear with me. there's this in economics there's this thing in economics called the laffer curve, right? the curve was written on the laffer curve was written on the a napkin by by the back of a napkin by by a famous economist called art laffer. basically laffer. and it basically said the the tax rate, the the higher the tax rate, the less revenue you're going to get because people do less stuff because people do less stuff because the tax rate is so high. so there's less activity to tax, there's less growth. people also evade taxes and so on. and a lot of people think that the obr doesn't take that into account. the fact that if you taxes the fact that if you lower taxes is you behavioural effects , is you get behavioural effects, dynamic changes rather than static analysis. if you lower taxes, there will be more activity . entrepreneurs will do activity. entrepreneurs will do more because there's more incentive for them to do so. so actually lowering tax rates. this liz . what liz truss

this is liz. what liz truss believes in profoundly lowering tax rates can actually lead to more tax revenue and raising tax rates sometimes can lead to less tax revenue. now some people on the left would say that's complete pie in the sky fantasy right wing economics, right? but history shows that it is often the case. it is often the case that the laffer curve works. that's why it is one of the most endunng that's why it is one of the most enduring and widely respected sort of pieces of economic analysis that there's ever been coined in the world. and that's really at the heart of this this row with labour trying to take advantage of the fact that liz truss is credibility is seen to be dented a year on, she's come out of the shadows to make a big speech and labour want to make political capital out of that. >> again could be >> yeah, but again, could it be something for something that backfires for labour something that backfires for labou well be given what you've could well be given what you've just there, bit of a just said there, a bit of a stick people can be rod stick that people can be a rod for their could be for their back. it could be a rod for their exactly. rod for their back. exactly. i think again, it's been think it's been again, it's been a politics. a fascinating week in politics. liam, much. liam, thank you very, very much. liam, thank you very, very much. liam are

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yes that's right. it is. again, just another absolutely outrageous case of a migrant hotel and local residents get this, are going to have to build a wall. plus a policy exchange report has alleged that muslim communities are weaponising islamophobia. is that fair? is that accurate, bushra sheikh will give her verdict on all of this. and, of course, i will be delving into the terrifying world of my inbox and having a discussion about whether or not it's right for king charles to start piping up again about the climate now is actually king. it came just a day after rishi sunak's announcement. was he wrong with that ? patrick wrong with that? patrick christys gb news business news channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news good weather on. gb news good afternoon, i'm alex deakin. >> this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the weekend will be a mixture fine on saturday for the vast majority turning windy on

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gb news, it's 4 pm. is patrick christys. >> it's gb news. and local residents are being forced genuinely to build a wall around a migrant hotel because it backs onto an old people's home. but there is much more than meets there is much more than meets the eye with this migrant hotel, not least because a government minister used have her minister used to have her constituency meetings there. she wasn't told that it's now full of asylum seekers . i'll also be of asylum seekers. i'll also be talking about this story as well . has the dropped a climate . has the king dropped a climate clanger? look, we all know that charles is quite green fingered, don't we? but he shut up about that a bit after ascending to the throne. well, he was back involved in the climate. should he keep his nose i'll also he keep his nose out? i'll also be discussing this story as well. thinly veiled islamophobia. yes. okay. so a new report has unearthed in their view that sometimes elements of the muslim community, when weaponise islamophobia, as a way of preventing criticism from some

of the practises amongst their culture. what do we make of that? i'll be finding out more detail for you shortly. i've also got this one coming your way. starmer's are balls way. yes, starmer's are balls up. right. they're up. that's right. they're following with a giant following him round with a giant mop at moment, mop and a bucket at the moment, aren't didn't aren't they? say, keir didn't really that. don't really mean that. don't worry. we won't be we promise you we won't be dragging into the eu . dragging you back into the eu. i'm going be having a look at i'm going to be having a look at how likely a hung parliament is, how likely a hung parliament is, how a lib dem red line of how likely a lib dem red line of returning to eu membership is going to be. i think it's becoming more and more likely by the day. patrick christys . gb the day. patrick christys. gb news. yeah loads to go out today. gb views. gb views .com and you will all be reassured by the other news that broke shortly came on air, shortly before i came on air, which now asylum seekers , which is now asylum seekers, people just crossing the channel people just crossing the channel, have to be housed channel, they have to be housed in a minimum three star hotel. i just wonder anyone who lives down the road from a three star hotel in the dead of night going and taking one of stars and just taking one of the stars off front building. off the front of that building.

but news dot com. but gb views a gb news dot com. right though, your right now, though, it's your headunes right now, though, it's your headlines . patrick headlines with polly. patrick >> thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the top story, as you've is a you've been hearing, is that a local council planning local council has used planning law to order the government to stop construction work on a former raf base that was set to house asylum seekers. >> west lindsey district council in lincolnshire has served an enforcement notice on the home office , saying it's clear office, saying it's clear there's been a breach of planning policy. the government had planned to house up to 2000 people. scampton with the people. raf scampton with the first 50 due to arrive within weeks . now also in the news weeks. now also in the news today , all major budget today, all major budget decisions would be checked by the office for budget responsibility under new plans announced by labour sir keir starmer says it will ensure the mistakes of liz truss's so—called mini—budget including higher mortgage rates and energy bills, aren't repeated . the bills, aren't repeated. the government says the aborted budget wasn't to blame for higher prices , but labour says

higher prices, but labour says saklas plan will bring stability to britain's economy. a year ago, huge damage was done to our economy and people are still paying economy and people are still paying the price that can never be allowed to happen again . be allowed to happen again. >> so this is a pragmatic, sensible measure. already other people are coming out, you know, former permanent secretaries, leading economists , saying this leading economists, saying this is a good idea for the stability of our economy. but this is focussed on working people and the pain they've been the pain that they've been through of that through because of that disastrous just a disastrous mini—budget just a year ago . year ago. >> well, separately, labour insists it's been clear about the party's red lines when it comes to britain's relationship with the european union . sir with the european union. sir keir starmer said he didn't want to divert from eu rules and argued that the uk and brussels should share a future together. shadow financial secretary james murray told gb news the labour leader was only referring to certain eu rules. >> i think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering

down uk standards when it comes to things like consumer protection on workers rights , protection on workers rights, food standards and so on. you know, that's what he was talking about and he was talking about that very clearly in the context of our red lines it comes of our red lines when it comes to our relationship with the eu , you know, and those red lines are around know, not are around you know, not rejoining the single market or the customs and not the customs union and not bringing freedom of bringing back freedom of movement. know, we have movement. you know, we have those lines, but within those red lines, but within those red lines, but within those red lines, we're clear that we do need an improved trading relationship with the eu. that's what would trading relationship with the eu. to that's what would trading relationship with the eu. to secure.nhat would seek to secure. >> the government's refused to confirm whether the hs2 rail project will connect central london with manchester. the chancellor , jeremy hunt, says no chancellor, jeremy hunt, says no decisions have been made , but decisions have been made, but costs are getting out of control . all but undersecretary for transport richard holden says work on the project is still ongoing . ongoing. >> what we've already got at the moment with hs2 is spades in the ground right across the country . billions of pounds have been invested in hs2 in that first

route up to birmingham .we've route up to birmingham. we've got tens of thousands of people working on the project really opening up parts of deprived parts of north london and parts of central birmingham. if you go there, you can see the transformational effect that it is happening, but it's right also the government also that the government ensures that all of these big projects are looked at properly in the round that kept round and that costs are kept under control, round and that costs are kept under control , the chancellor says. >> very difficult decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible. some of jeremy hunfs impossible. some of jeremy hunt's party colleagues, including former prime minister liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news recently. mr hunt says he wishes that was an option. but the government must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and interest rates . now its plan to bring down inflation and interest rates. now a judge has ruled that a 19 year old woman who died after losing a legal battle with an nhs trust can now be named sadiq shah. amalesh who had a rare mitochondrial disorder , wanted mitochondrial disorder, wanted to travel to north america for a

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drove the increase, but fuel sales were 1.2% lower due to rising global prices. that comes after july's wet weather was blamed for people skipping their summer wardrobe shopping . us gb summer wardrobe shopping. us gb news across the uk on tv. in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news . saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel >> okay, this is an absolutely calamitous story to bring you now at the top of the hour, a hotel chichester is hotel in chichester is reportedly set to close from next as it's going to be next week as it's going to be housing asylum seekers . that in housing asylum seekers. that in itself nothing but itself might be nothing new, but just wait for detail because just wait for the detail because it sparks a backlash. jobs it sparks a local backlash. jobs are going to be lost. are are going to be lost. events are being cancelled at the venue. swimming, coaching company dpd coaching has been forced to call off all future lessons as but there's more, of course there's always more. there are people who live at the back of this hotel now, a care home, so

they're now having to potentially build a wall. and also on top of that, it was the venue believed to be anyway for the local conservative mp, who also happens to be a government minister, to have some of their meetings. so a government minister essentially now being turfed out of a hotel because he's going to be used for asylum seekers. you couldn't make up seekers. you couldn't make it up gb investigates. reporter gb news investigates. reporter charlie tell charlie peters is here to tell us . what is going on there? us more. what is going on there? >> well, we've got the most details so far from dpd coaching the company that i've the swimming company that i've been taking at the been taking lessons at the hotel. they've given us the hotel. now they've given us the most detail really is most detail and it really is quite been quite extraordinary what's been going 100 people have quite extraordinary what's been goingcoached 100 people have quite extraordinary what's been goingcoached at00 people have quite extraordinary what's been goingcoached at thiseople have quite extraordinary what's been goingcoached at this hotel have quite extraordinary what's been goingcoached at this hotel every been coached at this hotel every week for 15 years now, and they start at two and a half years old, up to full. adults come there for coaching regularly as well. and they were giving just one week's notice that they're going lose access going to have to lose access to their largest so their second largest venue. so their second largest venue. so the says the hotel is the hotel says the hotel is sorry, the coaching companies say they've just recovered say that they've just recovered from the effects of covid. and now, as they're coming back into

business, this hotel is cancelling all their work has been quite devastating for their business. now, other locals we've spoken to are also very concerned about what this means for the local community in chichester with, you know , an chichester with, you know, an influx of people who they know nothing about suddenly appearing on doorstep with barely on their doorstep with barely any notice and very little information being provided by the home office. well, there are lots voices, for sure. >> yeah, there are. and my understanding is that this hotel, as well may well have been as for been used as a base for the local conservative party. and now , now it's no more. now, now it's no more. >> so gillian keegan , i mean her >> so gillian keegan, i mean her only the only time that she's spoken really about migration before this week. indeed a statement morning on this statement this morning on this issue hotel in issue with the hotel in february, she said that she was concerned that international students, course, students, of course, as education weren't education secretary, weren't getting enough the getting enough places in the country weren't country and they weren't being able of able to make the most of opportunities in britain. and since hasn't really since then, she hasn't really spoken and she's spoken about migration and she's interfered now to say that this is the solution for is not the right solution for chichester for relocating people

claiming asylum into the hotel . claiming asylum into the hotel. >> well, that's fascinating, by the way. i mean, so this is this >> well, that's fascinating, by th gilliani mean, so this is this >> well, that's fascinating, by th gillian keegan. ;o this is this >> well, that's fascinating, by th gillian keegan. okay. is this >> well, that's fascinating, by th gillian keegan. okay. so this >> well, that's fascinating, by th gillian keegan. okay. so she is gillian keegan. okay. so she came out said, it's came out and said, it's fantastic we've our fantastic that we've hit our targets foreign students targets about foreign students early. hit targets. early. we've hit our targets. it's great. we've got so many people here, foreign students and course, and dependents, of course, coming here. we've done great work. they a work. and then they slap a migrant in migrant hotel in her constituency , in fact, she constituency, in fact, where she used have her used to reportedly have her meetings. the right meetings. it's not the right place for it. we can't have it here. >> well, there go. >> well, there we go. >> well, there we go. >> it's £8.2 million a day. >> well, there we go. >> costing £8.2 million a day. >> well, there we go. >> costing £8. government.ay. it's costing the government. shadow yvette shadow home secretary yvette cooper this was an cooper said that this was an astronomical cost. we know 50,000 asylum seekers in hotels since the end of june. so really a for the a huge problem for the government. but what locals are telling from chichester telling us from chichester today in particular, saying that, in particular, are saying that, you they're you know, even though they're aware is a big problem for aware this is a big problem for the government and they're struggling with the illegal migration bill and the legal efforts, that down, efforts, shutting that down, still more information needs to be given to people when this is happening on their doorstep, because so many businesses, i don't think, have up to 45 jobs because so many businesses, i d0|the hink, have up to 45 jobs because so many businesses, i d0|the line have up to 45 jobs because so many businesses, i d0|the line ande up to 45 jobs because so many businesses, i d0|the line and businessesiobs because so many businesses, i d0|the line and businesses that on the line and businesses that use this hotel losing access , of

use this hotel losing access, of course. what are they going to do now? course. what are they going to do pubuc course. what are they going to do public as well. public >> public safety as well. public safety and having a chat safety. and i was having a chat with daubney, who's with martin daubney, who's been doing work on 12 till doing great work on the 12 till three before this three show just before this show, having a chat with show, i was having a chat with him and he saying, let's him and he was saying, let's talk care home at talk about being a care home at the this hotel. the back of this hotel. so you've a load of elderly, you've got a load of elderly, vulnerable who are living vulnerable people who are living out the rest of their days in a care home at the back of a hotel , perfectly safe and then all of a sudden, you know, 102 hundred, almost definitely mostly men, young men will rock up and be plonked somewhere near, though they're having to build a wall. apparently there's donald trump's apparently there's donald tru1well, there's doubt >> well, there's no doubt there's severe reaction there's quite a severe reaction from locals this. there's from locals about this. there's a protest next saturday from locals about this. there's a know test next saturday from locals about this. there's a know about.xt saturday from locals about this. there's a know about. thousands that we know about. thousands have signed a petition saying they don't want this for chichester . and also, it's chichester. and also, it's a very busy period seasonally for tourism, both internal and external. so all these external. and so all these hotels available vital hotels being available is vital . and if you're trying to find a hotel chichester now, hotel room in chichester now, you're be up you're suddenly going to be up against with one of them against it with one of them almost certainly being taken away home office on on

almost certainly being taken artwo home office on on almost certainly being taken artwo year home office on on almost certainly being taken artwo year lease.e office on on almost certainly being taken artwo year lease. now,ce on on almost certainly being taken artwo year lease. now, we've on a two year lease. now, we've been told that workers at the at the hotel found about the hotel only found out about this change last friday. it's closing on the 26th. that's a very short turnaround for people to adapt to the situation there. and we spoke to the home and when we spoke to the home office today, the statement they gave was quite brief and it gave us was quite brief and it appears to same for appears to be the same for people dealing problem people dealing with this problem on absolutely. on the ground. yeah absolutely. >> so as >> the other thing so this is as you've identified, their you've rightly identified, their unemployment and if you have a look at the amount of migrant hotels we have in this hotels that we now have in this country, at country, and you look at the amount of people who would have had there, had to have been working there, that's include had to have been working there, that's or include had to have been working there, that's or not include had to have been working there, that's or not they'veje had to have been working there, that's or not they've got whether or not they've got leisure or gym, leisure facilities or a gym, which hotels indeed do. which a lot of hotels indeed do. those their jobs at those people lose theirjobs at short notice and that appears to be what's happening now, does it? and at this hotel >> and the gym at this hotel will close . the pool will also close. the pool closed. both direct and closed. so it's both direct and indirect business gets kind indirect business that gets kind of scuppered this move . now, of scuppered by this move. now, you might say in defence of the government's they're government's move, that they're trying their to get the trying their hardest to get the migration line and migration bill over the line and this is short term solution to this is a short term solution to an accommodation. but 50,000 this is a short term solution to a|veryommodation. but 50,000 this is a short term solution to a|very significantn. but 50,000 this is a short term solution to a|very significant number. �*,000

a very significant number. they're doing the best they can in terms of housing the migrants with to doubling up on with regards to doubling up on rooms. so two room, but rooms. so two to a room, but even still taking over an entire hotel with such short notice as it's being claimed . you know, it's being claimed. you know, that's a very severe move. >> is . i'm that's a very severe move. >> is. i'm going that's a very severe move. >> is . i'm going to that's a very severe move. >> is. i'm going to read out >> it is. i'm going to read out a office statement so a home office statement now so we just get a little a home office statement now so we of just get a little a home office statement now so we of a just get a little a home office statement now so we of a flavourjust get a little a home office statement now so we of a flavour ast get a little a home office statement now so we of a flavour as to et a little a home office statement now so we of a flavour as to whatittle bit of a flavour as to what they've actually had to say about a home about all of this. so a home office this office spokesperson said this the arriving in the number of people arriving in small boats down compared small boats is down compared with we must go with last year. but we must go further to stop the boats in the first place. this is why we are determined to the illegal migration ensure that migration act to ensure that anyone arriving the uk anyone arriving in the uk illegally is detained and swiftly removed to their country of origin or a safe third country. we are also working hard to reduce the unacceptable use of hotels . can i just use of hotels. can i just interject at this point briefly and say this is now a stock answer? because i think i've read times , but read this several times, but unacceptable hotels by unacceptable use of hotels by moving asylum seekers into alternative cheaper accommodation, doubling them up in rooms. unclear ing the in hotel rooms. unclear ing the legacy back backlog. so that's

what they've had to say . we are what they've had to say. we are now basically getting stock answers from the home office when we ask them about hotels in particular areas. but this kind of neatly summarised , is it of neatly summarised, is it charlie, doesn't it, because we've got here people at the back of hotel, vulnerable back of the hotel, vulnerable elderly people who are now going to essentially a to have to essentially build a wall to protect themselves from whoever may up. you've got whoever may turn up. you've got a local community that wasn't told. you've actually got a government now government minister who's now being with the being turfed out along with the local association, local conservative association, without told as well. as without being told as well. as far as can you've got far as we can gather, you've got job top of that job losses on top of that and you've and you've got the local cost. and get it's a two year lease. get this, it's a two year lease. yes, that's right. >> and it's a vacuum of information well. information for locals as well. those about those who are concerned about these changes might these sudden changes who might want about where want to ask more about where people coming from people who are coming from to take a two year lease in take over a two year lease in their are their hotel just simply are unlikely those answers. unlikely to get those answers. what track it next what gb news will track it next week and hopefully attend the protest and hear more from locals affected and locals and those affected and try and promote their concerns. >> absolutely. look, >> yeah, absolutely. look, charlie, very charlie, thank you very, very much. peters, gb much. it's charlie peters, gb news, reporter . news, investigative reporter. and want to say, and again, i just want to say, if you're living if you're are living in a

situation like this, i was contacted by a couple in wales recently who i've had on who have a similar i would argue, potentially actually a bit worse situation now situation because they are now living in an asylum seeker hotel or least will be when it or at least will be when it actually comes fruition actually comes to fruition because the that their because of the way that their house located. they have house is located. they have a conjoining with what is conjoining wall with what is going about 500 going to house about 500 exclusively young men in a giant field in wales. so their lives will change irreversibly. there are a couple of other stories that to this that that kind of relate to this that are rounds today. are doing the rounds today. so the barge, the bibby stockholm barge, according freedom according to a freedom of information the information request that the guardian out guardian has actually put out there, apparently now there, apparently there is now no legionella that and no legionella on that barge. and it would conceivably then be fit for habitation. so how for human habitation. so how long it be before we start long will it be before we start seeing that seeing people actually on that barge ? another big one today barge? another big one today relating directly to the hotel story is that now apparently asylum seekers can only be put in a three star hotel, so asylum seekers can only be put in a three star hotel , so they in a three star hotel, so they can only be put in a three star hotel. there is a minimum requirement for people that , requirement for people that, again, do you not think that just us terribly with just compare us terribly with

people who are fleeing domestic violence in this country? people who are have had their house burnt who are being forced burnt down, who are being forced to live in shipping containers in in west in places like ealing in in west london? how can you compare those two? there's no minimum living requirement is living requirement for them. is there? other one that there? and the other one that i'm be talking about i'm going to be talking about a little hour little bit later on in this hour actually is about mandatory age verified pension checks for asylum seekers and channel migrants. this is going to be a big one. so human rights groups are saying that if you enforce an x ray or dental checks on people claiming to be children , people claiming to be children, then they well flee and find then they may well flee and find themselves in an incredibly vulnerable situation fleeing the authorities. argument authorities. the argument against that, i suppose, would be really a child, be if you are really a child, then you got be then what have you got to be afraid apparently, afraid of? and apparently, again, home again, according to the home office 49% of people between 2016 and june 20th, 23 who claim to be children turned out to actually be adults. i've got a poll running at the moment on twitter, which is at patrick christys. should channel migrants have undergo migrants have to undergo mandatory medical age verification tests? so far, not

a shock. this 95.2% of you think that they should get your emails coming in thick and fast. vaiews@gbnews.com celia says it's sickening . we should build it's sickening. we should build a wall around the channel instead and not at the back of this hotel . we have four hotels this hotel. we have four hotels in east sussex, says sue. yeah, this is happening absolutely everywhere, isn't it? why are british citizens losing their livelihoods over this? what about their families? it's a disgrace. it says stephen. and a lot of that going on in the inbox moment. don't be inbox at the moment. don't be shy. involved. shy. get involved. vaiews@gbnews.com. shy. get involved. vathe ;@gbnews.com. shy. get involved. vathe government m. shy. get involved. vathe government is the up, the government is the government doing enough to prevent codes being prevent strict dress codes being imposed on muslim women? there's a report out which appears to suggest that that some elements of muslim community are hiding behind islamophobia to be able to say that women should be forced to wear items of clothing that they want to. that perhaps they don't want to. and charles, back at and king charles, he's back at it, ranting about the climate again. should the king butt out on zero? patrick christys gb again. should the king butt out on businessitrick christys gb again. should the king butt out

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online gb news. britain's news. channelis online gb news. britain's news. channel is 421. >> you're watching and listening to me patrick christys on gb news. now king charles has been sticking his all into the climate debate. once climate change debate. once again. should but out again. should the king? but out when it comes to net zero? i thought he's been doing very well charles, well so far, charles, until possibly quite recently when he was giving large was in france giving it large

about .it was in france giving it large about . it did about the environment. it did come, think, just the day come, i think, just the day after, rishi sunak after, wasn't it? rishi sunak statement about about rowing back on net zero, did that undermine somewhat? was the undermine it somewhat? was the timing sure. what undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou sure. what undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou think? sure. what undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou think? should ure. what undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou think? should he. what undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou think? should he keept undermine it somewhat? was the tinyou think? should he keep his do you think? should he keep his nose but tank says nose out? but i think tank says that a fear of islamophobia is stifling debate about religious dress across the uk. so according to policy exchange freedom to discuss islamic headscarves and face coverings is being denied by islamist group . yes, it's a woman's group. yes, it's a woman's rights issue. it's a free speech issue. it's a multi culturalism issue. it's a multi culturalism issue and integration issue , i issue and integration issue, i suppose. joining me now to talk about all of this is political commentator bushra sheikh. bushra, thank very, very bushra, thank you very, very much . okay. so do islamist much. okay. so do islamist groups in britain weaponize islamophobia as a way of stopping criticism about the burqa or the niqab or the hijab or whatever ? or whatever? >> no, i don't. i don't think so. i mean, just going to this policy exchange report, i think it's entirely inaccurate. >> look, at the end of the day, patrick, i think everybody's

entitled criticise religion entitled to criticise a religion , whether that be islam or any other. >> the point is we cannot forget that there is clear islamophobia that there is clear islamophobia that exists in great britain. >> in fact , i'd even go to the >> in fact, i'd even go to the extent to say that people are dishonourable because they actually do not forward and actually do not come forward and say i just do like islam. say i just do not like islam. >> that's the truth. >> that's the truth. >> we are finding that . so >> and we are finding that. so firstly, islamophobia does exist and muslims we are open to and as muslims we are open to critique . critique. >> it's just the way people come at it. >> they don't come to us sincerely . sincerely. >> it's interesting because i'm looking at what the muslim council britain put out council of britain have put out in this report. i'm in response to this report. i'm just the headline just reading the headline now. policy exchange publishes misogynist report by playing up islamophobia with respect is it not quite misogynistic to make a woman wear a full headscarf and veil ? veil? >> well, look, is it misogynist to wear to make anybody wear anything? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> you know, that's that's false. i don't think any woman or man should be forced to do

something that they don't want to do. >> you know, in fact, we should have the freedom for people to make the choices at the end of the day, you know, you can look at where do we come in in >> where do we come in in policing the way women choose to dress? >> this is the actual question. and the truth is, in great britain, in fact, people hide behind the old islamophobia . behind the old islamophobia. they're not saying we don't like the hijab because we dislike islam, you see. so you can't have it both ways. you have to decide what is your problem with the hijab? what is your problem with any religious attire ? with any religious attire? >> okay. i think there is a certain irony which i do think will be lost on the muslim council of britain, if people don't mind me saying, which is that the policy exchange report sulking whether or not sulking about whether or not members of the islamic community sometimes call islamophobe shia as opposed to maybe addressing some of the issues, if indeed there are any within their own community. the policy exchange has published yet report has published yet another report deploying dogwhistle

islamophobia , this time by islamophobia, this time by encroaching on the fundamental religious of muslim religious freedoms of muslim women. are they not proving the point ? they're really, you know, point? they're really, you know, policy exchange, talking about a rush to maybe call things islamophobic as a way of stifling debate about a variety of different things in the muslim community. and then that report islamophobic report being called islamophobic by the council of britain by the muslim council of britain , patrick. >> patrick i think the muslim council of britain have a fair point to make because the policy exchange often only exchange reports often only highlight and target the muslim community. i genuinely believe that there is an out of context discussion happening here. what might be happening globally, you know, in the in the world is very different to what's happening here the ground in happening here on the ground in great britain . they've mentioned great britain. they've mentioned things having something things like having something like hijab day isn't like world hijab day isn't conducive to what's going on in iran. to me, that's absolutely nonsensical . sorry, that's nonsensical. sorry, that's nonsensical. sorry, that's nonsensical . it doesn't make nonsensical. it doesn't make sense to say that because in the uk we're a very good example of allowing women to dress how they

want . we should be the example want. we should be the example to the small minority of countries who still do enforce the hijab rule on women. >> are there not elements of the british muslim community where if you were a woman wanting to free yourself from not particularly wanting to wear the huab particularly wanting to wear the hijab or the burqa or whatever , hijab or the burqa or whatever, where you would get a huge amount of pushback on that? and is not what maybe is trying is that not what maybe is trying to highlight here, that perhaps not does wear not everybody who does wear those items of clothing wants to wear those items of clothing, but as though they but feels as though they they can't . not can't. not >> so ultimately, the way that things used to be, i'd say go back as far as the 80s things are certainly not like that within community. are certainly not like that within to community. are certainly not like that within to be, community. are certainly not like that within to be, butmmunity. are certainly not like that within to be, but they're:y. they used to be, but they're not. and this is because there is good information is a good level of information and education out there. so for all people that are all of those people that are still there are still doing that, there are a small group. know, again , small group. you know, again, this is a very polarising discussion . it's not happening discussion. it's not happening in the majority muslim in the majority of muslim families in great britain anymore. are choosing for anymore. women are choosing for themselves and the ones that are

still doing that , there are lots still doing that, there are lots of spaces that young women can go to say that this is happening to isn't just with go to say that this is happening to hijab isn't just with go to say that this is happening to hijab . isn't just with go to say that this is happening to hijab . you isn't just with go to say that this is happening to hijab . you know,ust with are the hijab. you know, women are being ostracised and persecuted in ways within in various different ways within their own personal family circumstances as well . so this circumstances as well. so this isn't just isolated to the to the headgear. >> do you think that there is a general fear of being called islamophobe phobic in that at times prevents quite legitimate criticism integration criticism about integration amongst the muslim communities at times ? at times? >> i think so. i think people i think the first thing is i think people have to genuinely come to the discussion sincere . i think the discussion sincere. i think the discussion sincere. i think the reason why there is a certain level of pushback within the muslim community in saying certain level of pushback within the isrslim community in saying certain level of pushback within the is islamophobiaity in saying certain level of pushback within the is islamophobia is in saying certain level of pushback within the is islamophobia is because; this is islamophobia is because we genuinely feel that , look, we genuinely feel that, look, patrick, i myself have been at the receiving of the receiving end of islamophobia . and let me tell islamophobia. and let me tell you, when i to wear you, when i used to wear a hijab, the amount of hate that i received in comparison to now is zero. you know, i've had incidents where i've had my car spattered with my children in it because i was wearing a hijab

and that has not happened to me since taking it on. >> why did you why did you stop fundamental out of interest? why did stop ? did you stop? >> well, look, for me personally , you know, wearing a certain level of religious clothing has to be sincere. it has to come from the heart. and you really need to know why you're doing from the heart. and you really neyand» know why you're doing from the heart. and you really neyand i> yeah, i mean look, i've got here labour mp khalid mahmood birmingham , perry barr area , birmingham, perry barr area, huge muslim population , right?

huge muslim population, right? so a certain proportion of muslim women may wish to wear a huab muslim women may wish to wear a hijab or a niqab or publicly demonstrate their muslim identity. but the wearing of the huab identity. but the wearing of the hijab clearly does not represent all muslim women, it grossly all muslim women, and it grossly it is grossly insensitive to those muslim women in iran and afghanistan, in yemen and elsewhere who are compelled against their wishes to wear the hijab, to declare that it does so. how would you respond to that? because from a you know, a western man. right, a christian man, i do find it bizarre that when women in a lot of those countries are given the opportunity to take the item of clothing off, they tend to and then does appear to armed then it does appear to be armed men put it back on. >> yeah, look, the first thing is, i don't think using iran is a true representation of the, let's say, muslim world. there are more than 30 to 50 muslim countries that exist and none of those countries enforce the huab. those countries enforce the hijab . and iran does ultimately hijab. and iran does ultimately , this is a you know, iran faces its own issues between the state and the clerics when it comes to

what rules their policies that they're enforcing . but those they're enforcing. but those women to have the extreme women tend to have the extreme side of it and they take it off. why? because they don't get the choice. i think it's important for global leaders to understand , even from a perspective of a woman , that it's important to woman, that it's important to have choice in what they have the choice in what they should wear. at the end of the day, any day, don't don't want any government even government or any state even having the right to even undress women. so essentially , if women. so essentially, if someone's trying to ban the hijab, that's also the same as trying to enforce it . trying to enforce it. >> so just hypothetically, now , >> so just hypothetically, now, i mean, the situation has actually happened. it's not the hypothetical where parents have said that their their child's nursery school teacher who was wearing the full burqa or full niqab and the kids couldn't necessarily understand what she was saying. and, you know , also was saying. and, you know, also maybe felt a little bit uneasy because there were young children and weren't used to it. would that be islamophobic, do you think, for a parent go you think, for a parent to go into school raise that into that school and raise that as a concern ? as a concern? >> totally not. i feel like

people have concerns and they're well within their rights to say that the. patrick let me tell you something now it's the ignorant associations mostly that people have with the islamic attire because i'm going to say this, when our teachers were wearing masks in school and our students and my kids could not understand what the teachers were saying because their mouths were saying because their mouths were covered. where were covered. and where would those individuals then, those policing individuals then, you now they want to say you know, now they want to say we can't understand muslim women. look at what they're wearing. when , know, wearing. but when, you know, covid there covid lockdowns happened, there were hundreds of teachers wearing and you could not wearing masks and you could not understand that understand a single thing that they were the they were saying in the classrooms. that essential classrooms. and that essential but contention but nobody raised the contention then. so ultimately, this isn't about what they're wearing. this is about the association, the ignorance one linked to islamic clothing . clothing. >> so it's a it's a fascinating argument. bushra, i must say, sadly, we are out of time because i would i would love to keep going back and forth on this. but bushra sheikh, the political commentator, friend of the very much. the show, thank you very much. what make of that?

what do you make of that? vaiews@gbnews.uk what do you make of that? vaiewillgbnews.uk what do you make of that? vaiewill be lews.uk what do you make of that? vaiewill be some k views there will be some strong views now now 5 pm, now in between now on 5 pm, king estate visit to king charles estate visit to france been deemed triumph france has been deemed a triumph , but has he stuck his foot in it focusing on it by focusing too much on climate change? i'll be debating that next. though , as that next. now, though, as your headunes that next. now, though, as your headlines . patrick. headlines with polly. patrick. >> thank you. the headlines. the home office has been ordered to stop construction work on a former raf base that was set to house asylum seekers as west lindsey district council served an enforcement and stop notice , an enforcement and stop notice, saying it was clear there had been a breach of planning control. the government planned to house up to 2000 people at raf scampton in lincolnshire. also in the news, all major budget decisions would be checked by the budget for responsibility of course, for budget responsibility rather, under new plans by labour. budget responsibility rather, under new plans by labour . sir under new plans by labour. sir keir starmer says it'll ensure the mistakes of liz truss's so—called mini—budget including higher mortgages and energy bills, aren't repeated and the

government has refused to confirm whether the hs2 rail project will connect central london with manchester. the chancellor says no decisions have been made, but suggests costs are getting out of control . well, more on all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . website, gbnews.com. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good afternoon . i'm alex >> good afternoon. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the weekend will be a mixture fine on saturday for the vast majority. turning windy on sunday and quite wet, particularly in the west thanks to this weather system. out in the atlantic. system. way out in the atlantic. ahead of that, this little ridge of high pressure will bring most of high pressure will bring most of day tomorrow. but of us a fine day tomorrow. but ahead that, we've lots ahead of that, we've seen lots of still quite of showers today and still quite a around this a few of them around this evening. ones, quite evening. some heavy ones, quite a spray and surface water a lot of spray and surface water on roads heading

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going to turn a bit warmer for a brighter outlook with boxt solar >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> time for a debate now because king charles has caused controversy during his state visit to france by weighing in once again the climate once again on the climate debate, the king called on britain and france to form a new entente . cordiale i'm fluent to entente. cordiale i'm fluent to step up that fight against climate change. it's well known that the monarch is not meant to express her opinion on political matters . but with many people matters. but with many people arguing that climate change is a non political issue , is it okay non political issue, is it okay for the king to call for more action to tackle it? is he overstepping the mark? the timing on this was a bit squiffy as well just before it as well because just before it we rishi sunak standing we had rishi sunak standing up in street giving his net in downing street giving his net zero speech. so to debate whether or not the king should shut up about the environment.

now that he is king, i've got historian david starkey and head of comment at the express, paul baldwin. chaps, thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show at starkey. i will start you. do think the the show at starkey. i will start shouldyu. do think the the show at starkey. i will start should butt) think the the show at starkey. i will start should butt out think the the show at starkey. i will start should butt out on1ink the the show at starkey. i will start should butt out on the the climate? >> i think he should calm down. he's had it very easily so far for the simple reason that it's been a matter there's been no political dispute about it. i think quite wrongly, all all our political parties, you know, there are three we happily are able to forget the lib dems most of the time. but not on this one. there's been a broad agreement of by politicians, by so—called experts, by the church, that climate is a terrible there's a terrible change going on. we've got to do something about it. but sunaks intervention has shown that has stopped. sunak did say , of stopped. sunak did say, of course he still remains in theory committed to 2050 zero emissions. in fact, it's quite clear the road there is going to

be rocky. it's going to be costly, it's going to be profoundly divisive and i think the king and by the way, i think also, patrick, the prince of wales, remember, he's just been in new york with his earthshot prize this is going to become a matter of increasing. and i think a deep and dangerous and divisive political controversy. >> okay . all right, paul, i'll >> okay. all right, paul, i'll throw it your way now. paul baldwin had a comment at the express , said the king shut up express, said the king shut up about climate . about the climate. >> i think patrick the king is 74 years old. and it seems from my end to adult life, he has been banging on in some way, shape or form about the environment. and i think to expect him to stop now is , uh, expect him to stop now is, uh, is crazy . um, expect him to stop now is, uh, is crazy. um, in expect him to stop now is, uh, is crazy . um, in this expect him to stop now is, uh, is crazy. um, in this particular case, uh, he didn't really say that much. we haven't heard before. he said that we face an existential crisis now you can

turn on the bbc morning, noon and night, and some bloke on there telling you to face an existential crisis . so i think . existential crisis. so i think. i think he just about. okay on this. the thing that that blew my mind was that after addressing the upper house on on the state of the climate crisis , he then basically got on a private jet this afternoon to fly to bordeaux . and it's the fly to bordeaux. and it's the it's the gauche ness. it's the hypocrisy of that kind of thing from the great and the good who preached to us about how we must be better. that really sticks in my craw . my craw. >> yeah, that's a great point, david. you know, you can't get around that. and unfortunately , around that. and unfortunately, it's one of long list of it's one of a long list of people who do, who do who do bang on about the climate. and that immediately do something like a private jet. like get on a private jet. >> well, indeed, it's almost a signal, isn't it, that to be a passionate believer in the problem of the climate, you've got to be very, very rich. we've just had the splendid, splendid

remark from kemi badenoch saying that only if you're very rich can you , as it were, put the can you, as it were, put the climate first. the rest of us put paying our bills , being able put paying our bills, being able to travel, getting on a train, being able to drive a car, all of these things have become profoundly controversial because of the move. and remember , the of the move. and remember, the completely arbitrary set of targets and dates which have been constantly shifted and obviously my quote unquote opponent, who isn't at all, is right that king charles has been banging on about this. but he banged on about it when it was unfashionable. he banged on about it when it was laughed at. then, of course, he seemed to be vindicated because the world had at least perceived proper private jet travelling . public private jet travelling. public opinion decided he was right, but suddenly the great unwashed, the audience of gb news, you know , even though we might have know, even though we might have perfume ads from time to time,

is recognising what the cost is going to be. and in sunak somebody is speaking for them. so this is, in other words, it's not that the king has been going on about this for long time. on about this for a long time. it's suddenly the circumstances have changed. >> well, i get that. i that >> well, i get that. i get that . but, paul, is a hyper . but but, paul, it is a hyper political issue. anyone can say. and try to say that climate and try to say that the climate it's a world issue. it's an issue for humanity. yeah. all right. it's become massively right. but it's become massively politicised and became politicised and it became even more politicised in this country the before king charles gave the day before king charles gave a speech about the climate in france . and so it is a political france. and so it is a political issue . and i thought that's the issue. and i thought that's the kind he he was kind of thing he said he was going to butt out of when he became king. >> a political issue and >> it is a political issue and it does make you wonder when the king says something, when the government says something, there is usually back channels of communication and you wonder if this was orchestrated to sort of tie in with rishi sunak announcements yesterday , which announcements yesterday, which frankly, i thought were long, long overdue. and i think david

makes a brilliant point that , makes a brilliant point that, um, climate can turn has become a sort of privilege of, of the privileged classes. some of us can't afford it. i've got a diesel , i've can't afford it. i've got a diesel, i've got a flog. now it's got years and years of life left in it. but because of the ulez living out of london, i've just got to dump it and i've got to find 5 or 10 grand from somewhere for to buy a new car. now, if you're rich, you've already got an electric vehicle. you've got your tesla in the drive . but the normal people, it drive. but the normal people, it hasn't been costed is your problem. yeah, the whole thing hasn't been costed . yesterday we hasn't been costed. yesterday we were all going on about how arbitrary the year is. 2030 and 2050 were and, and they are totally arbitrary, totally plucked out of nowhere. they haven't been costed . we don't haven't been costed. we don't know where we're going net zero. >> yeah , exactly. and dave , just >> yeah, exactly. and dave, just just to say does i think we can actually take some live footage of the king whilst we have this discussion, is discussion, by the way, which is magnificent discussion, by the way, which is magn he ent that's discussion, by the way, which is magnhe entthat's getting off. there he is. that's getting off.

so almost like we planned so it's almost like we planned it, isn't it? mean, good it, isn't it? i mean, good grief. anyone who grief. although anyone who regularly show will regularly watches this show will know did not know that we absolutely did not plan that is king plan this, but that is king charles there in charles and camilla there in bordeaux . but, david, whilst bordeaux. but, david, whilst we are at our dear king, are looking at our dear king, does he risk losing the support of you mentioned there the great unwashed, you know, does he risk losing the support of, i'll say it affectionately , you know, the it affectionately, you know, the vast majority of the people all by piping up on an issue that many people feel he might be slightly out of touch on. you know, just from a purely political point for his own popularity , should have shut popularity, should he have shut up think patrick, i think, >> i think patrick, i think, patrick, finger patrick, you put your finger absolutely point . absolutely on the point. >> were passionate >> those who were passionate about climate change, they're fundamentally remainers. they are the cynical, clever, upper middle class. and they're not fundamental, middle class. and they're not fundamental , totally monarchist fundamental, totally monarchist and think the great body of the population , which is deeply population, which is deeply sceptical about private about climate change. you can say private change, climate change and the whole of this sort of improve moving sense that really

the people shouldn't be allowed to have very much to do with politics. they're the royalists and in a sense the king is siding with his natural opponents on this. in the same way i would argue when he pursues , you know, the whole of pursues, you know, the whole of the equality diversity and inclusion agenda, he's , as it inclusion agenda, he's, as it were, turning away from his natural supporters towards his natural supporters towards his natural opponents. and that's just plain bad politics. yeah, just plain bad politics. yeah, just final word from you on this, paul, to further that really, which is we saw him with the diversity inclusion the diversity and inclusion agenda to ngozi agenda and pandering to ngozi fulani real name, marlene hadley , over the lady susan hussey issue there. >> we've seen him do this a few times now. he's doing it on the environment . why is the so environment. why is the king so keen to appease people keen to try to appease people that him ? i that will never like him? i think he's falling for this , um, think he's falling for this, um, kind of shtick that everyone seems to be falling for. >> big business is falling for that government is falling for that. the political class is falling for. but somehow we have to. democracy seems to have been

flipped on its head. it used to be basically utilitarian , the be basically utilitarian, the greatest happiness of the greatest happiness of the greatest number. and now it seems to be we only care about special pleading, special interest groups. now, in britain, we have always cared about special interest groups, and i think we've been we are incredibly democrat and understanding and tolerant. incredibly democrat and understanding and tolerant . but understanding and tolerant. but it's we live in this strange age where the minority seems to be dictating to the majority . and i dictating to the majority. and i don't understand it, but i think charles has gone down that rabbit hole with everybody else. >> yeah. look, both of you, rabbit hole with everybody else. >> ye you. ook, both of you, rabbit hole with everybody else. >> ye you. really th of you, rabbit hole with everybody else. >> ye you. really th of yotthat thank you. really enjoyed that great as historian starkey thank you. really enjoyed that greahads historian starkey thank you. really enjoyed that greahad a1istorian starkey thank you. really enjoyed that greahad a comment starkey thank you. really enjoyed that greahad a comment at starkey thank you. really enjoyed that greahad a comment at the tarkey and had a comment at the express. baldwin, what are express. paul baldwin, what are your on this? fact, express. paul baldwin, what are your are on this? fact, express. paul baldwin, what are your are comingis? fact, express. paul baldwin, what are your are coming in. fact, express. paul baldwin, what are your are coming in. i fact, express. paul baldwin, what are your are coming in. i facsee it they are coming in. i can see it right now, patrick. we can't seriously expect king charles to jump seriously expect king charles to jum|that's from philip. philip, seriously expect king charles to jlunderstand om philip. philip, seriously expect king charles to jlunderstand that.1ilip. philip, seriously expect king charles to jlunderstand that. yes, philip, seriously expect king charles to jlunderstand that. yes, of|ilip, i understand that. yes, of course. and he is the king and i do love the king. but i get a little bit sick about him banging climate banging on about the climate because political because it's such a political issue coming issue. anyway, coming up, starmer slips up on brexit,

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>> welcome back. 448 you are watching and listening to me patrick christys on gb news. still ahead , concern in still ahead, concern in chichester after reports of a local hotel will close from next week in order to house asylum seekers, we'll bring you an exclusive about the local backlash. i'll also be talking about the latest when it about the latest nuttery when it comes to the verification comes to the age verification checks that we are not allowed to use as it currently stands for channel migrants should all channel migrants claiming to be children have to undergo mandatory medical and scientific age verification checks ? and age verification checks? and it's the bibby stockholm now safe to house some of those channel migrants. so lots to go out there, but is this the day the tide of the upcoming election turned because rishi sunak he reset over net zero and it looks like bizarre . brexit is it looks like bizarre. brexit is about to rear its head. well it has reared its head again, hasn't it? because keir starmer hasn't it? because keir starmer has dropped bit of a clanger. has dropped a bit of a clanger. take it away, sir. keir >> most of the conflict with the uk being outside of the uk anses uk being outside of the uk arises insofar as the uk wants

to diverge and do different things to the rest of our eu partners . obviously the more we partners. obviously the more we share values , the more we share share values, the more we share a future together, the less the conflict and actually different ways of solving problems are become available . become available. >> so not really wanting to diverge from the european union, what was the point of brexit? i would argue is would also argue is that a massive shock from a bloke who said would prefer be massive shock from a bloke who sa davos would prefer be massive shock from a bloke who sa davos than'ould prefer be massive shock from a bloke who sa davos than inld prefer be massive shock from a bloke who sa davos than in westminsterye massive shock from a bloke who sa davos than in westminster. at davos than in westminster. but slip up , but with that little slip up, the clean up operation has now moved into overdrive because labour are trying to fix labour mps are trying to fix this mess. why oh well, because they realise that that will quite down like quite possibly go down like a cup of cold sick yeah. cup of cold sick with. yeah. okay. as people who okay. brexiteers as people who think that brexit is a kind of slow moving organism that potentially got off to a very rocky start , mainly because of rocky start, mainly because of politicians like sir keir starmer , by the there's starmer, by the way. but there's always opportunity for always the opportunity for britain competitive britain to seek competitive advantage long we remain advantage as long as we remain outside the european union . but outside the european union. but here was labour's james murray

shadow financial secretary to the treasury of the united kingdom . um, well, parading some kingdom. um, well, parading some much needed. he will call this clarity to keir starmers comments. take it away . comments. take it away. >> so look, i think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down a uk standards. you know, when it comes to things like consumer protection worker rights, food standards and so on. you know, that's what he was talking about and he was talking about that very clearly in the of our red lines in the context of our red lines is when it comes to our relationship with the eu, you know, red lines are know, and those red lines are around, know, not rejoining around, you know, not rejoining the single market the customs the single market or the customs union and not bringing back freedom of movement. you know, we those red lines, but we have those red lines, but within those red lines, we're clear we do need an clear that we do need an improved trading relationship with the eu. and that's what we would secure. would seek to secure. >> lines , blurry >> yeah, red lines, blurry lines, pink lines. >> yeah, red lines, blurry lines, pink lines . anyway, i can lines, pink lines. anyway, i can speak now with former political secretary to tony blair, john mcternan. john, thank you very much for joining mcternan. john, thank you very much forjoining me. why are

they having to clean up so much after sir keir? is it because they realise he's dropped a clanger ? clanger? >> no, it's because the tories and the tory press are distorting and telling lies about what keir said . about what keir said. >> keir said something really clear . he >> keir said something really clear. he said that the labour party will not and i agree with this and i think all the brexit voters agree with this. the labour party will not, not lower labour will not lower labour standards, will not lower food standards, will not lower environmental standards . and if environmental standards. and if you want to look at somebody who's trying align themselves you want to look at somebody who'the'ing align themselves you want to look at somebody who' the european gn themselves you want to look at somebody who' the european gn the|thisves with the european union this week, at look at keir week, look at look at keir starmer's oppo , the prime starmer's oppo, the prime minister, who is minister, rishi sunak, who is trying in a european trying to bring in a european style education qualification and has actually changed the date about when they're going to ban of new petrol cars, ban the sale of new petrol cars, diesel cars till 2035, aligning with the european union. >> so i think it's people making mischief . mischief. >> and look, i'm pleased to ask that question in montreal of keir and thought his answer was excellent. is it the bit that's not being clipped? is it defence and security part of our

and security a key part of our relationship with the european union? obviously union? and that's obviously important because of russian aggression as well. >> well, it's especially important because without us there's every chance, of course, isn't there, that putin would have just rolled through mainland but we mainland europe. but there we go. it comes to keir go. and when it comes to keir starmer having quite a bad starmer now having quite a bad week, possibly , maybe, possibly. week, possibly, maybe, possibly. we've had , you know, votes for we've had, you know, votes for kids being raised. we had a bit of back and forth over whether or not we're going to end up with kind of asylum with some kind of eu asylum seeker we've him seeker quota. we've had him meeting photo meeting macron. that photo opportunity now people like opportunity now for people like me gift. i can me is an absolute gift. i can wheel out a picture him wheel out a picture of him shaking emmanuel macron's hand whenever we've also shaking emmanuel macron's hand whehimer we've also shaking emmanuel macron's hand whe him there we've also shaking emmanuel macron's hand whehim there talking we've also shaking emmanuel macron's hand whehim there talking about also shaking emmanuel macron's hand whehim there talking about eu) got him there talking about eu divergence or lack of or lack of . so is this actually quite a bad is this quite a bad week for keir starmer is even talk now for the first time in a long time. i can remember talk of a hung parliament. that can hung parliament. well that can only the talk of the only exist if the talk of the labour gone out the labour majority has gone out the window and you can't have a bad

week for the labour party when every single poll published this week has got labour between 50 and 25 points ahead in the lead in in the polls, labour are crushing the conservatives at the moment. >> the tories , the prime >> the tories, the prime minister particularly, but the tory are flailing tory government are flailing around trying to find some way to be relevant and they're not relevant. they can't solve today's problems, they're not cutting, waiting lists. people are suffering with high housing costs, whether you're renting or or your mortgage. and today's problems are so pressing . the problems are so pressing. the tories want to talk about anything other than can deal with today's problems . with today's problems. >> we've got to sorry. if >> we've got to go. sorry. if you're time. thank you're pressed for time. thank you're pressed for time. thank you watson you very much. john watson in there. to i'm there. look still to come, i'm going talking going to be talking about whether or not okay age whether or not it's okay to age check my migrants check my channel. migrants patrick christys gb news. i'll see a tick. see you a tick. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news the weekend

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gb news, it's 5 pm. it's patrick christys is gb news now should all channel migrants claiming to be children get mandatory medical and scientific age checks? >> because at the moment, apparently we are using a report by gillette, the razor company , by gillette, the razor company, to dictate how old we think they are, which i think is absolutely outrageous. in other news, we'll be discussing this as well. yes. apparently bibby stockholm apparently the bibby stockholm barge actually safe to be barge is actually safe to be used for the, oh, i don't know, handful of channel migrants that used for the, oh, i don't know, harever of channel migrants that used for the, oh, i don't know, harever eventually migrants that used for the, oh, i don't know, harever eventually decide its that used for the, oh, i don't know, harever eventually decide to that used for the, oh, i don't know, harever eventually decide to put we ever eventually decide to put on there. no more legionella aboard the bibby barge . i will aboard the bibby barge. i will also be discussing this story as well. net zero in court. so rishi sunak made his big statements on net zero, didn't he? about 50% of the public thought it was a good idea . thought it was a good idea. well, now, apparently it could be in the courts by be challenged in the courts by none than good law none other than the good law project. but that's right,

project. but that's all right, because as i can tell, because as far as i can tell, they tend to lose quite often. anyway, discussing they tend to lose quite often. anyioceangoing discussing they tend to lose quite often. anyioceangoing disyso sing this oceangoing disgrace. so we now an aircraft carrier now have an aircraft carrier that can't carry any aircraft . that can't carry any aircraft. it yeah, i know patrick christys . gb news get in touch with your views . i've also got a twitter views. i've also got a twitter poll running on this right now, which is whether or not channel migrants claiming to be kids should indeed given mandatory should indeed be given mandatory age tests. gb views and gbnews.com is an email address. but right now it's your headunes but right now it's your headlines with polly . patrick headlines with polly. patrick >> thanks very much indeed. well, the top story this hour concerns the home office, which is in trouble today because a local council has used planning law to order the government to stop construction work on a former raf base that was set to house asylum seekers. west lindsey district council in

lincolnshire has served an enforcement notice on the home office, saying it's clear there's been a breach of planning policy. the government had planned to house up to 2000 people at raf scampton with the first 50 due to arrive in the next few weeks . now, also in the next few weeks. now, also in the news today, all major budget decisions would be checked by the office for budget responsibility under new plans announced labour sir keir announced by labour sir keir starmer will ensure the starmer says it will ensure the mistakes liz truss's mistakes of liz truss's so—called mini—budget, including higher mortgage rates and energy bills are not repeated. the government says the aborted budget wasn't to blame for higher prices, but the labour leader says the plan will bring stability britain's economy . stability to britain's economy. >> a year ago huge damage was done to our economy and people are still paying the price that can never be allowed to happen again. so this is a pragmatic , again. so this is a pragmatic, sensible measure already other people are coming out. you know, former permanent secretaries , former permanent secretaries, leading economists, saying this is a good idea for the stability

of our economy. but this is focussed on working people and the pain that they've been through because of that disastrous just a disastrous mini—budget just a year ago . year ago. >> well, labour insists it's been clear about the party's so—called red lines when it comes to britain's relationship with the european union. sir keir starmer said he didn't want to diverge from eu rules and argued that the uk and brussels should share a future shadow financial secretary james murray told gb news the labour leader was only referring to certain eu rules . rules. >> i think what he was talking about was about the fact that we have no interest in watering down on uk standards. you know, when that comes to things like consumer protection and workers rights, food standards and so on, you know, that's what he was talking about and he was talking about that clearly in the about that very clearly in the context of our red lines when it comes to our relationship with the , you know, and those red the eu, you know, and those red lines are around, know, not lines are around, you know, not rejoining the single market or the union and the customs union and not bringing freedom of bringing back freedom of

movement . you know, we have movement. you know, we have those red lines , but within those red lines, but within those red lines, but within those lines , we're clear those red lines, we're clear that we do need an improved trading the trading relationship with the eu. what we would eu. and that's what we would seek secure. seek to secure. >> the government's refused to confirm whether the hs2 rail project will connect central london with manchester. the chancellor, jeremy hunt , says no chancellor, jeremy hunt, says no decisions have been made, but suggests costs are getting out of control . well, but of control. well, but undersecretary transport undersecretary for transport richard holden says the work on the project is still ongoing. what we've already got at the moment with hs2 is spades in the ground right across the country. >> billions pounds been >> billions of pounds have been invested in hs2 to in that first route up to birmingham. we've got tens of thousands of people working on the project, really opening all parts of deprived opening up all parts of deprived parts of north london and parts of central birmingham . if you go of central birmingham. if you go there, you can see the transformational effect it transformational effect that it is . but it's right is happening. but it's right also that the government ensures that these big projects that all of these big projects are looked at properly in the round and that costs kept round and that costs are kept under control . under control. >> has gone on >> the chancellor has gone on record saying very difficult

decisions will make tax cuts virtually impossible . some of virtually impossible. some of jeremy hunt's party colleagues, including former prime minister liz truss , are reportedly liz truss, are reportedly pushing for tax relief after better than expected economic news recently . mr hunt, though, news recently. mr hunt, though, says he wishes that was an option, but the government must stick with its plan to bring down inflation and interest rates . a judge has ruled that a rates. a judge has ruled that a 19 year old woman who died after losing a legal battle with an nhs trust can now be named sadiq pteromalus, who had a rare mitochondrial disorder , wanted mitochondrial disorder, wanted to travel to north america for a potential clinical trial . potential clinical trial. however, the unnamed nhs trust had a fundamental disagreement with the teenager's family over what was in her best interests . what was in her best interests. dufing what was in her best interests. during the hearing of the court of protection, they heard that ms tirumala told her psychiatrist , i want to die psychiatrist, i want to die trying to live. her family said she was one of a kind. >> after a year of struggle and

heartache , we can finally say heartache, we can finally say our beautiful daughter and sister's name in public without fear. >> she is. she. she is siddiqia thermals, not sd. >> despite our grief and the continuing shock over everything we have been through today , a we have been through today, a part of us is at peace. >> subhiksha was a wonderful daughter and sister who we will cherish forever . cherish forever. >> streaming will soon look like a little more like television as we know it at home. as amazon's prime introduces advertisements, the company says it's going to start carrying ads from next yean start carrying ads from next year, though it insists they'll be less than their competitors. subscribers will have the option to pay extra for an ad free version. it follows moves by netflix and disney plus to offer cheaper ad supported platforms . cheaper ad supported platforms. now the return of the summer weather last month helped retail sales recover, though there was a drop in demand for fuel. figures from the office for national statistics show retail

sales grew by 0.4. it said stronger interest in clothes shopping drove the increase, but fuel sales were 1.2% lower due to rising global prices. it comes after july's wet weather was blamed for people skipping their summer wardrobe shopping with gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital radio in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news . saying play gb news. this is britain's news. channel >> well, welcome to the latest instalment of the illegal migrant age verification farce. the home office says that between january 2016 and the year ending june 20th, 23, 49% of asylum applicants whose age was disputed were found to actually be adults. that, of course , is nearly half. the course, is nearly half. the government wants to bring in stricter age checks like x rays. it's worth noting that 22 eu countries are using at least one type of medical age assessment .

type of medical age assessment. so we are not doing anything evil here. but get this human rights charities say it will be catastrophic because people claiming to be children might flee in fear of an age verification check. well, why would you do that if you were actually a child? seriously refugee charities, they pipe up and they point this out. they go, well, it's because home go, well, it's because the home office wrong so much. office gets it wrong so much. we've cases like a recent we've had cases like a recent one in court of a boy who was adjudged to be a 25 year old man. this is an outrage charge. but those people completely early and deliberately miss the point because we don't have enforced medical age verification checks. the home office ends up doing things like using report by shaving using a report by shaving company gillette to help judge whether or not somebody is an adult. and you can see the adverts now, can't you? gillette the best afghans can get the same people who complain when the home office accidentally judges to be an adult judges a child to be an adult are the ones trying to ban any attempt at using more accurate age verification checks. for the

avoidance of doubt, let's be very clear about the current way in which the home office tries is to decide between who is a genuine child and who is a 40 year old man from rural pakistan who could conceivably end up sitting in the back of your daughter's maths class. the age of a person arriving in the uk is normally established from the documents with which they have travelled. many who claim to be children miraculously do not have any definitive documentary evidence to support their claims. where this is the case or where there is a dispute about age and their claimed age is doubted by the home office and initial age assessment is conducted , the home office will conducted, the home office will only treat someone claiming to be a child as an if two be a child as an adult if two officers have separately determined that the individual's physical appearance and demeanour very strongly suggests they are significant . shaun they are significant. shaun bailey over the age of 18, this threshold is set deliberately high in recognition of the difficulty in assessing an individual's age based on physical appearance and demeanour, where doubt remains,

individuals will be given the benefit of the doubt, pending further consideration by a local authority or the national age assessment board and treated as a child for immigration purposes until further assessment of their age has been completed. right okay. so that's pretty thorough . and the bar is pretty thorough. and the bar is pretty low, i would say . but you know low, i would say. but you know what's quicker? easier and more cost effective. things like x rays, dental checks. et cetera . rays, dental checks. et cetera. now one bleeding heart from a human rights organisation is quoted in guardian as saying quoted in the guardian as saying this it our view , too, that this it is our view, too, that this it is our view, too, that this will result in children leaving accommodations in care settings , forcing them into settings, forcing them into harmful, exploited situations due to fear of undergoing these scientific procedures. we have spoken to colleagues elsewhere in europe who inform us that children often leave child protection if threatened with these assessments , many go these assessments, many go missing . i'm these assessments, many go missing. i'm going to say something now that might be very controversial, but i don't care. i don't care because i don't believe it . yesterday,

believe it. yesterday, i interviewed a human rights lawyer who looked me in the eye and expected me to believe that even if someone broke into his own home in the dead of night, he wouldn't detained . he wouldn't want them detained. and now being asked to and now i'm being asked to believe that genuine children will be so afraid of wrist will be so afraid of a wrist x ray that they would no ray that they would run away. no what they're afraid of is being found to be a lying adult and then deported . we can have a then deported. we can have a debate on this in a second. but joining me now is mark white, our home and security editor. mark, very, very much. mark, thank you very, very much. so, yeah, the latest age verification farce is in. >> yeah, i mean, i think this shows actually just how deeply unsafe satisfactory the current situation is for trying to determine whether a migrant is a child or an adult. right? because if they claim that they are a child and they look anything like a teenager and remember, many people look a bit

young for their age , then they young for their age, then they will always the border force immigration officers will always err on the side of that migrants claim. so unless you absolutely look as though you're someone in your mid 20s, then they are going to believe you and you will be treated as a child. even though you may be 18, 19, 20 or whatever . and though you may be 18, 19, 20 or whatever. and this particular incident that occurred on the in october of 21 when a young person came over from afghanistan on a small boat, they were interviewed initially by immigration officers as and dunng by immigration officers as and during the process of that interview, this young person told the immigration officers that they began shaving when they were still in afghanistan. now now the immigration officers took that as part of the evidence to suggest that this person actually was over 18. they used had a gillette razor

company test kit that gives an indication of when people first start to shave. it's you know, it's laughable is what it is . it's laughable is what it is. almost laughable. absolutely but it's not just that in this heanng it's not just that in this hearing that was brought by the young person against a ruling saying actually , we believe saying actually, we believe you're 25, he claimed that he was under 18. so he took it to an immigration court. was under 18. so he took it to an immigration court . and in an immigration court. and in that ruling, the judge said that the assessors had also used other factors like the young asylum seekers, thick eyebrows asylum seekers, thick eyebrows as stubble define to adam's apple and triangular face shape. this is what they're up against. it's all subjective. they've just got to use their best guess. so it's not satisfactory in any way, shape or form. that's why the government now wants us to introduce proper scientific tests . so x rays with scientific tests. so x rays with x ray, the teeth and x rays, the

wrists, mri scans that would scan the knees and the collarbone area. so scientific tests that would give a much more accurate assessment of where someone's age range lies. and i think for the charities to come forward and say that this would frighten people into disappearing is a bit weak and doesitisitis disappearing is a bit weak and does it is it is weak because if people come over here and would be in urgent need of medical assistance, like say they've broken their wrist or they've sprained it badly or they had a problem with their teeth , i problem with their teeth, i reckon they'd be queuing up to have a wrist x ray or dental care, you know, and this is a routine a dental routine part of a dental procedure, a check—up often you're given an ray, you know you're given an x ray, you know , it's not life ending in any way, shape or form. you don't even realise it's happening a lot the time anyway. lot of the time anyway. >> look, mark, thank you >> but look, mark, thank you very white very much for that. mark white there, security there, gb news home and security editor this, editor for all of this, of course, begs the question, what is way to verify the is the best way to verify the age people entering the uk

age of people entering the uk illegally to discuss this, i am joined by the director for the centre of migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf. stephen, thank you very much . is stephen, thank you very much. is it too much then to say that we should x ray and do dental checks and whatever else we can do to someone coming over here claiming to be a child ? claiming to be a child? >> well, no, not really . >> well, no, not really. >> well, no, not really. >> i think if you look at the internet personal perspective of this in europe, there are approximately 22 eu countries that adopt an approach each that examines those who claim to be adults when they are or are not children. >> and four of those countries, sweden , norway, finland and. and sweden, norway, finland and. and denmark , all take a similar denmark, all take a similar approach to assessing medically through other examinations and no one would argue for a moment that they are countries that are ill treating children, ill treating asylum applicants, or

indeed a breach of anything of international law . so i think international law. so i think it's very important to take this in the context globally, i suppose, stephen, some people would say, look, not would say, look, they're not entirely . entirely accurate. >> rays, they're >> these wrist x rays, they're not these not entirely accurate. these dental and actually, dental checks. and so actually, it add that it wouldn't necessarily add that much . much. >> well, actually, if you one looks the bone structure looks at the bone structure test, which is called the grulich and pile the atlas test, that's 95% accurate in assessing a child under the age of 16. >> so if you're truly under 16 and you're looking at the bone structure of that, that is one of the highest rates of assessment that one can do . assessment that one can do. >> yeah, indeed. i actually believe that we are now joined by. yes, we are hijab, single immigration lawyer who has entered the fray . joe, great to entered the fray. joe, great to have you on the show. look, thank you very much. and is it against someone's human rights really you a really to say, can we give you a wrist ray ? wrist x ray? >> um, it depends . >> um, it depends. >> um, it depends. >> i mean, some would argue for what purpose would you need that

for? but i'm assuming if someone's claim, if someone's claimed asylum and they want to prove their claim and they want to prove that they are underage, then they wouldn't have any objection to having an age test which can actually help their case rather than hinder it . case rather than hinder it. however, they're within their rights to refuse it. and the home office are within their rights. then to say, well, hold on, we offered you a certain number of tests. you didn't agree. therefore we agree. therefore we agree. we assess your age to be this and then it's up to the applicant, then it's up to the applicant, then prove that their then to then prove that their age actually is what they claim it to be. i think i'll stick with on this now for a lot with you on this now for a lot of these human rights charities to well, look, to come out and say, well, look, you , the home is you know, the home office is getting the time. getting this wrong all the time. >> be trusted >> therefore it can't be trusted whilst simultaneously wanting to push that push back on something that would i would make it more accurate. i find that hard to square . find that hard to square. >> well, the thing is, what? it's the alternative. so there's no doubt that the home office gets stuff wrong. we know that. and not just with age assessments, but with everything that they do pretty much right.

they get it wrong from policing to passports to we all know that. however, what is the alternative? so unless , you know alternative? so unless, you know we can produce a credible alternative, we're just going to have to use the systems that are in place . we've tried social in place. we've tried social services and social workers at age assessment that that's been done and that even that's not been wholly accurate . so i think been wholly accurate. so i think the really the pressure should be on the home office to perhaps develop an accurate system or for someone to come up with an accurate an accurate system as an alternative . and until then, alternative. and until then, we're just going to on we're just going to keep on having this age old argument of, well , is it having this age old argument of, well, is it right having this age old argument of, well , is it right or isn't it well, is it right or isn't it right ? right? >> yeah. i mean, it's really sad again, court case again, because this court case has come to light. of has just come to light. and of course, of course, the increasing number of people are coming over. stephen i wider point i suppose there is a wider point here, just here, which is again just about the safety the public health and safety side it's one side of it. you know, it's one thing well, know thing saying, oh well, you know , person , we need to treat this person with compassion and just believe , we need to treat this person with theypassion and just believe , we need to treat this person with they are .ion and just believe , we need to treat this person with they are a n and just believe , we need to treat this person with they are a child, just believe , we need to treat this person with they are a child, but believe , we need to treat this person with they are a child, but ifelieve that they are a child, but if they child, then they can they are a child, then they can end in a school. end up in a school. >> oh, absolutely. think >> oh, absolutely. and i think what would argue very what the public would argue very strongly that we support

strongly is that we support looking after unaccompanied children who are genuinely fleeing asylum . fleeing asylum. >> but as the home office stated of those 3762 who came in and 20, 21, 93% of them were male , 20, 21, 93% of them were male, and of those 53% who had a dispute of age, they were proven to be adults . with an average to be adults. with an average mean age of 23 years of age . so mean age of 23 years of age. so i think there's a real public policy imperative here. one, as haji has said that genuine children would go through this process and then be treated absolutely, positively and clearly . and that gives greater clearly. and that gives greater security and positivity for the pubuc security and positivity for the public to. and then those who are trying to game the system can be dealt with in a way that is necessary and appropriate. and again, the public would see that as the best way forward. and the asylum system then doesn't come into danger in the

public's mind. no indeed. >> and you know, yesterday , ray, >> and you know, yesterday, ray, i genuinely had to have an interaction with a human rights lawyer who looked me in the eye and told me that even if someone broke into his own home in the dead of night and was sitting there, that he wouldn't want them that was in them detained. that was in relation we be relation to how long we could be able detain illegal migrants. able to detain illegal migrants. it appear to me at the it does appear to me at the moment that we are living in a country where we now have to put them three star them in a minimum of three star hotels . we aren't really able to hotels. we aren't really able to do proper age verification checks, so goodness knows where that ends up. can't that ends up. we can't particularly detain people for a huge length of time and we also can't really deport them either. i whole system is i mean, the whole system is broken. really. could you fix it for me ? for me? >> yeah, of course. first of all, we would go back and sign the return agreements with a lot of countries . so instead of of countries. so instead of having the six that we've had since 2016, less of less ratio of one a year. yeah we'd sign about 200 return agreements for someone . then we'd bring in fast

someone. then we'd bring in fast track processing just like we used to have in 2001, 2002, 2003. i know i was on the fast track scheme . we used to detain track scheme. we used to detain and decide claims within 15 days. there was even a court in the detention centre . so a judge the detention centre. so a judge used to sit in a detention centre five days a week in case somebody appealed. so the appeal could be heard the week after. not take years and years to process. we'd plough more money in to qualified staff to speed up processing . that's what needs up processing. that's what needs to be done and we need to make sure that we catch the gangs once again. this whole age thing is once again, it's a it's a gang fuelled problem . and i'll gang fuelled problem. and i'll tell you why. because when the gangs send these people on boats, they tell the ones who are borderline, look , claim are borderline, look, claim you're under of course, you're under age. of course, claim under because claim you're under age because you'll differently . you'll be treated differently. all again, if we all right. once again, if we catch the gangs and the catch the gangs and stop the gangs stop these boats from gangs and stop these boats from actually , then we've actually launching, then we've cut the problem down. what cut half the problem down. what we tend do is , you know, the we tend to do is, you know, the system is broken, put load on the more load on the system

the more more load on the system and then have look at it and and then have a look at it and say, can't deal with say, well, we can't deal with it. mess. okay look, it. we're in a mess. okay look, both of you, thank you very, very much. >> hardeep singh, bunkall there, immigration lawyer, and also, of course, stephen woolf there as director centre director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity. migration and economic prosper been on migration and economic prosperbeen on and she also linda's been on and she also raises a very good which raises a very good point, which is risk of genuine is there is a risk of genuine children genuine children, so genuine child asylum seekers being accommodated with fully grown men are lying about their men who are lying about their age. that age. yeah, absolutely. and that of course, happening. but of course, is happening. but there your emails there we go. keep your emails coming in. views. gbnews.com. coming in. gb views. gbnews.com. now sunak is set face now rishi sunak is set to face legal challenges over his plans to on on net zero to u—turn on on net zero policies, or at least delay them a bit. is it time for a little bit. is it time for lefty lawyers to stop slowing this down? patrick this government down? patrick christys gb news business news

britain's news . channel britain's news. channel >> welcome back. it is 526. you're watching or listening to me patrick christys on gb news now still to come, new nhs guidance says that children shouldn't be able to change their pronouns at school without their pronouns at school without their parents knowing. should this now become government policy? i'm to going knock that on bit and say should be on a bit and say should it be able happen? even if the able to happen? even if the parents do know there's some rather there rather fruity parents out there that heads that maybe need their heads looking is a £4 looking at. but why is a £4 billion british aircraft carrier sitting two thirds empty? and what does it tell us about the state of our armed forces? look basically, have we got a giant aircraft carrier that can't carry any aircraft? but rishi

sunakis carry any aircraft? but rishi sunak is likely to face a series of legal challenges aimed at preventing his plans to water down net zero policies. groups such the good law project and such as the good law project and friends the earth friends of the earth have reportedly to the reportedly written to the government to warn of court challenges over their climate policies , despite being met with policies, despite being met with criticism over the move, the prime minister has shrugged off the so far . but prime minister has shrugged off the so far. but could the naysayers so far. but could his plans still be foiled? joining me now is director of climate media coalition. is danica mccarthy. donica, thank you very much . great to have you you very much. great to have you on so do you think on the show. so do you think rishi sunak will lose in the courts ? courts? >> it's likely that he may do the government's independent advisers, the climate change committee has said that this looks like it will delay us achieving the targets that we have agreed to, not just in the uk law, but international law . uk law, but international law. >> the uk government has signed up to a target of trying to assist the international community to stay under 1.5 c. for that, we need a 35% cut in carbon emissions by 2030. this

this actions by the prime minister delays that cuts for us in the 30s and 40s. >> okay. if the science changed so if all of a sudden you started looking at a load of reports that said that temperatures were to going rise quicker than think are quicker than we think they are now, urgent now, that we need more urgent action, you would be action, presumably you would be calling accelerate calling for us to accelerate that action, right? that would make sense. what if the make sense. what about if the financial situation of a country changes , as indeed ours has and changes, as indeed ours has and it now is obvious that we can't afford to behave in the way that we want behave before, and we want it to behave before, and therefore have to delay therefore we have to delay things a little can't things a little bit. why can't things a little bit. why can't things change? >> well, the it's not actually at the moment a decision between both of those. it was around ten, 15 years ago when renewables were extremely expensive, when installed solar in my house first in 1998, it was a £10,000 per kilowatt installed . it is now less than installed. it is now less than £1,000 per kilowatt installed. so the costs have come down and

this now the cheapest energy in the uk is onshore wind. offshore wind and solar. and i think you and i agree that it's poor people should not be paying the price of net zero of tackling our climate responsibility 80s. it should be rich people . and it should be rich people. and what hasn't been picked up from sunak announcements is actually the impacts on poor people for example, the delaying land abolishing the requirement for landlords to install energy efficient homes is going to cost tenants a billion pounds extra in energy per year, delaying electric cars means rich people won't be buying them, which means that poor people will not be able to get second hand electric cars which save them thousands of pounds over their of their lifespan in running costs. so there's and thirdly, would there not is there not an yeah, is there not an argument john mauger to say if john mauger to say that if we want people pay for want the rich people to pay for everything way, it's everything and by the way, it's not to net not just going to be on net zero, it's be zero, it's going to be everything in of our everything in terms of our pubuc everything in terms of our public services that public services because that is an that

an ideology way of thinking that those people leave then an ideology way of thinking that those left)eople leave then an ideology way of thinking that those left just .e leave then an ideology way of thinking that those left just withave then an ideology way of thinking that those left just with poor then we are left just with poor people now. >> so , you know, if asking a >> so, you know, if asking a millionaire to invest £6,000 on a solar panel system on their home. >> but it's not that, is it? >> but it's not that, is it? >> come on. but it's not. it's not that , is it? it's loads more not that, is it? it's loads more than that. it's everything, isn't taxing them at isn't it? taxing them at 40% generally probably generally then probably going to go even greater and know it's go up even greater and know it's tax tax, tax, tax tax . tax tax, tax, tax tax. >> you're going off on a tangent. you're going off on a philosophic not philosophic tangent. this is not about right. is about left or right. this is about left or right. this is about pay for about how do we pay for something the country needs to do to protect itself from the wider world? somebody has pay wider world? somebody has to pay for and at the moment, for it and at the moment, patrick, i think you and i would agree that those people who admit and afford it agree that those people who adnmost and afford it agree that those people who adnmost shouldand afford it agree that those people who adnmost should pay. afford it agree that those people who adnmo so, hould pay. afford it agree that those people who adn mo so, hotwe pay. afford it agree that those people who adn mo so, hotwe pay. itafford it agree that those people who adn mo so, hotwe pay. it should >> so, so, so we agree it should be china and india. it should be china and india leading the way. it agree it. it maybe we agree this is it. i don't think that britain that releases 1% carbon emissions don't think that britain that release be 6 carbon emissions don't think that britain that release be made|rbon emissions don't think that britain that release be made|rb

finish. >> my point . the is rich finish. >> my |whether1e is rich finish. >> my whether they is rich finish. >> my whether they live; rich finish. >> my whether they live here people, whether they live here in china or in india , emit in china or in india, emit something like the top 10, emit something like the top 10, emit something like the top 10, emit something like 50% of carbon emissions . so we should tackle emissions. so we should tackle them first. get the people with them first. get the people with the big houses and the and the invasion. private jets flying around in beijing, in london, in paris, wherever they live, the rich people need to be tackled first. and that's what we're calling i am calling for. and i think you and i should agree on that. >> donica if i if i paid for a train ticket, not a plane ticket, a train ticket to get you to beijing, will you tackle a rich for me ? a rich person for me? >> i will tackle it. i'm happy to talk to somebody in the chinese embassy. if you arrange me a meeting with them in london. >> hey, london. right? you don't fancy no going over and fancy no fancy going over and protesting ? protesting in beijing? >> if i flew to beijing, you would say a hypocrite for would say i was a hypocrite for flying. . flying. so mean. >> saying you can get a >> i'm saying you can get a train. honestly a train. you can honestly get a train. you can honestly get a train you can. i train to beijing. you can. i looked before. it's about looked it up before. it's about £500 a party.

>> that would mean i would miss talking to you for a whole month. i'm on the train. i couldn't bear that. >> , all right. >> all right, .uk. all right. thank you take thank you very much. you take care. all right. i'll see you in a bit. duncan mccarthy, he's the director of the climate media coalition. could go to coalition. they could go to beijing india or wherever if beijing or india or wherever if they wanted. why does it have to be britain? it's world leading. we've ridiculous we've got these ridiculous labels, we labels, world leading. why? we can't should we be, you know, just leading ordinary people to the have the banks? they can have a little their little bit more money in their accounts. loads to accounts. but anyway, loads to come 6:00. new come between now and 6:00. new nhs that children nhs guidance says that children shouldn't be able change nhs guidance says that children shou|pronounsble change nhs guidance says that children shou|pronouns at�* change nhs guidance says that children shou|pronouns at school nge nhs guidance says that children shou|pronouns at school without their pronouns at school without their pronouns at school without their parents knowing. but should we be letting change should we be letting kids change their at all? even with their pronouns at all? even with parental consent? i think not. but we'll have a chat in a tick. but we'll have a chat in a tick. but now as your headlines with polly . patrick, thank you. polly. patrick, thank you. >> the headlines this hour. the home office has been ordered to stop construction work on a former raf base that was set to house asylum seekers. west lindsey district council served

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windy it's also windy everywhere, but it's also going to turn bit warmer. going to turn a bit warmer. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . on. gb news the nhs has published trans guidance for schools, saying that they should not let children who question their gender socially transition with out parental consent. >> so that was the key thing. this sounds like a step in the right direction, doesn't it? because for period of time it because for a period of time it was much like was looking very much like schools were going say, if schools were going to say, if you just turn up one day and tell you be tell me that you want to be a girl boy, now we won't have girl or a boy, now we won't have to tell parents. can to tell your parents. you can just transition in the just socially transition in the school. national school. well, the national health has said that health service has said that parents be left in parents should not be left in the dark about their child's gender identity and suggest that working and working with young people and their parents or carers good their parents or carers is good practise. social transitioning could include calling a child by

a new name using different pronouns or allowing them to use different toilets . what i'm different toilets. what i'm asking is whether or not this goes far enough so even with parental consent, should goes far enough so even with parental consent , should schools parental consent, should schools be doing this ? what if the be doing this? what if the teacher doesn't want to do it for ideological , religious for ideological, religious reasons, etcetera ? or actually, reasons, etcetera? or actually, what if the parents are a bit loopy? well, i can now get the views of human rights campaigner and activist peter tatchell . and activist peter tatchell. peter, thank you very much for joining me. i believe any time soon. there we go. good stuff, peter. yeah. okay. so should kids be allowed to socially transition even if their parents want them to? what if what if there's something wrong with the parents? >> well, first, let me say that we're in this mess because the government promised in march that it would produce guidelines by the end of the summer. it hasn't done so. >> it has let down trans pupils, their parent, its teachers and their parent, its teachers and the wider public. so the government is to blame for this

mess and the nhs has helpfully stepped in, but they have not said that social transitioning should be banned and they've wisely said it's not recommended. they say that it is best if social transitioning is done with the approval of parents, teachers and the pupil. >> so a three way alliance working together and i agree with that. but there may be certain circumstances where it's not right or it might even be dangerous to inform parents. >> so if parents are very ill informed or perhaps even prejudiced against trans people , that might put that young person in danger. >> okay, what happens? >> okay, what happens? >> what happens, peter, what what i would argue what i would argue is much more likely to happen actually is that a teacher decides that because of their own conviction in that they don't think it's the right thing to do , to call, you know, thing to do, to call, you know, steve, susan, one day because because steve has decided that

he's now susan at school without telling the parents and that that teacher then gets sacked. i think that's more likely than this kind of romantic ideal that you're protecting a child from some kind of bigoted parental background . background. >> well, the fact is already in many of our schools, pupils have socially transitioned . and in my socially transitioned. and in my talks on human rights in schools, i've met many of those pupils. they're fellow pupils and their teachers . and none of and their teachers. and none of them say there's been any problem. now, of course there might be a problem at some point. there may be, as you say, a teacher who doesn't want to use the correct pronoun or the correct may be that correct name. that may be that may be a problem in the future. but any cases but i haven't heard of any cases so far . but i haven't heard of any cases so far. basically, but i haven't heard of any cases so far . basically, the schools so far. basically, the schools that you heard have you that have you heard have you heard of of a lot of young heard of a lot of a lot of young children want to transition, children who want to transition, having co—existed mental health problems ? some do. but in the problems? some do. but in the schools that i've been to, where i've met these young people,

i've met these young people, i've interrogated the staff and other pupils quite intensively, asked them about what the circumstances are and the universal position i've received is that those kids are accepted. they're happy, they're well—adjusted. it's not a problem. it's not an issue. so you know, i think we need to hope for the best. you know, we need to think that, you know, being kind to trans kids is the way to go . and we shouldn't way to go. and we shouldn't demonise them or see them. >> the difference, though, isn't there is a there is a world of difference between , you know, difference between, you know, demonising and saying demonising somebody and saying and playing along and pandering to them and denying, you know, that child at some point during their schooling will attend a biology or a science class. right. and they are yet the school is allowing them to live their lives in complete disregard of scientific and biological fact. i would imagine that's quite confusing to that child. >> well, no one's denying the biological effect . the fact

biological effect. the fact biological effect. the fact biological sex is real. there's no debate about that. that's absolutely true. that is the science. but gender identity is something different . so if you something different. so if you accept someone's gender identity, you're not denying their sex, you're accepting their sex, you're accepting their identity. >> should there be should there be checks on the parents of trans kids? so how do we know that there aren't parents who have things like munchausen by proxy who decide that their lives aren't interesting enough? and so they want to make their children more interesting. and so they're basically so they're going to basically say kid that you should say to the kid that you should be and that kid is a be trans and that kid is a young, age, goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool age, goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool . age, goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool . and age, goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool . and does age, goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool . and does that goes be trans and that kid is a yourschool . and does that lioes into school. and does that i mean, should there not checks mean, should there not be checks on not because on the parents, not because they're because they're bigots, but because they might nutty ? might be nutty? >> i've never heard of >> well, i've never heard of such an example such a case. you know, again, there may be 1 or 2 instances, but the idea of putting all parents under interrogation on the basis of what a very tiny minority might do or say, i don't think isn't that strange? >> because we're being asked to change laws basis of what

change laws on the basis of what a tiny minority want . a tiny minority want. >> well, you know , in our >> well, you know, in our society, we are a democracy and we respect individual rights and personal freedom . and that must personal freedom. and that must include trans young people as well. you know, we accept racial diversity. we accept lgbt plus people. we accept disabled kids in schools. you know , accepting in schools. you know, accepting diversity is not a bad thing. but of course , we always need to but of course, we always need to be mindful of safeguarding issues, both when it comes to trans kids and to parents. and we do, as i said , wherever we do, as i said, wherever possible, in in 99% of cases, we do actually work with parents or schools , work with parents and schools, work with parents and the parents support their trans kids and there's no evidence that that either the parents or the trans kids have any problem or issue. >> i just wonder if we look for it, though. peter, look, thank you very much. peter, do you very much. okay, peter, i do appreciate . i hope you appreciate your time. i hope you have a good, good friday evening and peter and a nice weekend. peter tatchell there, of course.

right. okay coming up, on right. okay coming up, why on earth a £4 billion british earth is a £4 billion british aircraft carrier being called a national embarrassment? find out in just a tick patrick christys gb news

on gb news, the people's. channel >> well, interesting ones around the show off. okay, so the deployed of a £4 billion british aircraft carrier has been dubbed aircraft carrier has been dubbed a national embarrassment after

it was sent to norway and the nonh it was sent to norway and the north atlantic. two thirds empty. the 65,000 tonne hms queen elizabeth was sent with just eight fighter jets on board, despite having capacity for 36. but if that weren't bad enough, the ship only has two crow's nest radar helicopters aboard, meaning that it can't maintain an airborne watch , maintain an airborne watch, apparently. and britain's only solid store ship, which is essential when operating away for friendly harbours, is undergoing maintenance work. so look, is this a national embarrassment? is it an expensive oceangoing dud? does it actually have the ability to do exactly what we want it to do? it does remind me of a story in australia a few years ago where one of their ships had to great fanfare, entered the dock . it was then promptly filled with the wrong fuel. the engine basically blew up and they had to start rebuilding it again. so let's with the let's discuss now with the defence editor at the evening standard, fox. robert, standard, robert fox. robert, thank very, very much. just thank you very, very much. just explain to our viewers our explain to our viewers and our listeners, really

listeners, is this really a national embarrassment? have we built an aircraft carrier that can't carry enough aircraft for us? yes and no. >> okay. i'm sorry. >> okay. i'm sorry. >> i'm going to have to do do it. >> little bit of a vicky pollard on him. >> yeah, but no, but. >> yeah, but no, but. >> okay, good. >> okay, good. >> but this is from article >> but this is from an article by page, a former naval by lewis page, a former naval officer in the daily telegraph . officer in the daily telegraph. >> and lewis does bang on a bit about this and he's banged on about this and he's banged on about some journalists. beef carriers very big where they carriers are very big where they built too big. they were signed off by by brown and brown. gordon brown and des brown is constituencies happened to be quite close to where they were built. >> did you really need that capacity? it was supposed to carry 35 super duper carry 35 of the super duper fighter jets, but they carry 35 of the super duper fighterjets, but they don't fighter jets, but they don't have the range. >> so they go up, down and they have to be refuelled. if they're really going anywhere great really going anywhere at great distance. awful , distance. it sounds awful, doesn't it? >> does, because you >> it does, because when you expensive, build expensive, that's when you build an carrier. an aircraft carrier. >> build the aircraft >> you build the aircraft carrier aircraft. carrier around the aircraft. but actually , this is the exception

actually, this is the exception because once you can break that and say , well, the f—35, which and say, well, the f—35, which has proved very expensive and the multinational deal, the americans weren't terribly nice to us and their allies, they promised this work and promised all this work and wouldn't pass over the technology in the way that it was required, through that was required, get through that and see what these things can do i >> -- >> and by the way, the americans love them. >> they've lot of space, a >> they've got a lot of space, a lot capacity . lot of capacity. >> and if you talk to the head of the armed services who was head of the navy, if you talk to the head the navy , go five the head of the navy, go five years , you'll be talking years out, you'll be talking about drones , you'll be talking about drones, you'll be talking about drones, you'll be talking about apache helicopters . if about apache helicopters. if you're doing they are going to be multi, multi roles. so it's not quite the embarrassment that lewis page wants it to be. and when goes up to norway, when it goes up to with norway, you'll allied air forces, you'll get allied air forces, allied commando units, exercise being the socks off them because they are extremely valuable space which you can hold offshore for all kinds of purposes. >> so would it be the equivalent , okay, of somebody buying a house with six bedrooms, but at

that moment in time only having one child, but planning for a bigger family? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> but you might also to carry that one on. expect a few aliens to arrive as well, because this goes into the future air of hypersonic warfare . but this is hypersonic warfare. but this is where there's a problem. there was a fantastic hypersonic missile launched by china and we missed it a lot of places. they flew it over the falkland islands deliberately, by the way, other things . and way, amongst other things. and it orbit, it did the southern orbit, not expecting and the expecting the brits and the americans couldn't follow it. okay. to do with okay. what's this got to do with aircraft when it ended aircraft carriers when it ended up, it showed that could go had multiple warhead and it could go ping multiple warhead and it could go ping ping ping with anti—ship missiles okay. and it's a real problem because in big time warfare, it makes these really big ships really , really big ships really, really vulnerable. and we're moving to new dimensions. but i bet by the time we get to 2030, lewis page

thinks we should be having new big aircraft, big holes aboard you know, the pilot with the white scarf . that's all going to white scarf. that's all going to be over. it's going to be largely automated. you're going to using drones. to be largely using drones. okay. and you will be using them for a lot of other things as well besides flying conventional aircraft. >> okay. all right . so the >> okay. all right. so the pubuc >> okay. all right. so the public can rest assured that we have not sunk £4 billion or whatever it was on something that we can't really use . that we can't really use. >> and we'll be using it in very interesting ways , i hope. but i interesting ways, i hope. but i think there's a pretty good prospect of it. >> good. well, that's >> okay, good. well, that's reassuring. it's complicated, i'll but i'll be honest with you. but reassuring. very, very reassuring. thank you very, very much it's great have much. it's been great to have your views on this show and your expertise. fox there? expertise. is robert fox there? you're with us for you're staying with us for a minute, don't you're staying with us for a miianywhere don't you're staying with us for a miianywhere just don't you're staying with us for a miianywhere just because yn't you're staying with us for a miianywhere just because as go anywhere just yet because as michelle dewberry has joined me in the studio right now , you've in the studio right now, you've got dewbs& co coming up next. how many do you want to give us a quick flavour of what's on the show? >> well, i've got things >> well, i've got all the things that up that you would expect coming up , the the day. but i , all the news of the day. but i also to ask well whether

also want to ask as well whether or murderers should or not killers, murderers should ever be granted anonymity . and ever be granted anonymity. and i'm going to be speaking to the father of a teenage boy who was very tragically murdered. he is now campaigning for a change in the law because his son's killer has been granted anonymity. and the father is asking what i think is a very pertinent question why should you know? he's him and his family have now got a life sentence they'll never see their son again. why should the killer be able to be anonymous, hide behind his actions? >> yeah, i think that's absolutely disgraceful. i don't think that should that should happen at all. it's just an easy way out, isn't it? who's on your panel? >> well, yeah, the flip panel? >> vof l, yeah, the flip panel? >> vof thatah, the flip panel? >> vof that will the flip panel? >> vof that will be the flip panel? >> vof that will be that the flip panel? >> vof that will be that someip side of that will be that some people could say, hang people could say, well, hang on a person a second, because the person that what that killed him was 16. what they know they will argue is, you know what should have ever have be what should he have ever have be able to get away from the stigma? what about rehabilitation ? so i guess rehabilitation? so i guess that's the other side of the argument . so it'll be argument. so it'll be an interesting and sensitive, of course, to debate as well. course, thing to debate as well. also as well local councils. is

it time to do like it just time to do like significant reform now, so many of them are going bankrupt with these notices as and another one today, we're talking about and i've got two people it used to be councillors on the programme as well , so they will have an as well, so they will have an insight sure . insight i'm sure. >> yeah. local councils again, it's good one. look, it's another good one. look, james, you very, very james, thank you very, very much. dup, be much. michelle dup, he'll be with the next hour. it's with you for the next hour. it's going bumper evening going to be a bumper evening here as well. so make here on gb news as well. so make sure you stay with us. and sure that you stay with us. and yeah, will be back on monday yeah, i will be back on monday at 3 pm. thank you very much. everybody who's been emailing in and over and getting in touch over the course week, everybody and getting in touch over the coursebeen week, everybody and getting in touch over the course been taking:, everybody and getting in touch over the course been taking partzrybody who's been taking part in my twitter poll as well, the theme of today was based of the day today was based around whether or not people who come the come to this country via the channel claim children channel and claim to be children should mandatory scientific should have mandatory scientific and age tests. i did a and medical age tests. i did a poll on my twitter on this and shock horror, 95.2% of you think, yes , they should. will think, yes, they should. will that ever happen ? probably not. that ever happen? probably not. if the human rights brigade ever get their way. but there we go. thank you very much, everybody. get their way. but there we go. twill: you very much, everybody. get their way. but there we go. twill be u very much, everybody. get their way. but there we go. twill be backy much, everybody. get their way. but there we go. twill be backy mu youeverybody. get their way. but there we go. twill be backy muyou tomorrow i will be back with you tomorrow , sorry. monday at

, not tomorrow, sorry. monday at 3 pm. it's been a long week. i hope you all have a fantastic weekend. make sure that you stay tuned dewbs & tuned to gb news because dewbs& co coming way just co is coming your way in. just a sec. anywhere . sec. don't go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers are proud sponsors of weather on gb news good afternoon, i'm alex deakin. >> this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the weekend will be a mixture fine on saturday for the vast majority turning windy on sunday and quite wet, particularly in the west thanks to this weather system way out in the atlantic. ahead of that , in the atlantic. ahead of that, this little high this little ridge of high pressure will bring most of us a fine tomorrow . but ahead of fine day tomorrow. but ahead of that, lots showers that, we've seen lots of showers today still a few of today and still quite a few of them evening. some them around this evening. some heavy ones, lot spray heavy ones, quite a lot of spray and on roads and surface water on the roads if heading this if you're heading out this evening. the showers will evening. but the showers will fade evening . so fade through the evening. so most become dry. most places will become dry. some lengthy, clear spells. the winds ease and it turns quite chilly. temperatures well down into single digits. a touch of

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declared bankruptcy . what on declared bankruptcy. what on earth is going on is our local council model is broken. do we just need to basically rip up the whole thing and start again? you tell me. and should murderers ever be granted anonymity that is a sensitive one, particularly when the killer is, say, 16 years