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this opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's theirs. of it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours. be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, at debating, discussing, and at times no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled. one will be cancelled. so joining hour joining me in the next hour broadcast lizzie broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy mp cundy and also former labour mp simon few moments, simon danchuk. in a few moments, i'll the with i'll be mucking the week with comedian diane spencer. but before let's before we get started, let's get your it your latest news headlines as it is good to you. i'm >> good afternoon to you. i'm aaron armstrong in newsroom. >> good afternoon to you. i'm atwoman1strong in newsroom. >> good afternoon to you. i'm atwoman arrested1 newsroom. >> good afternoon to you. i'm atwoman arrested1 nilandom. a woman arrested after a land rover school a woman arrested after a land ro south school a woman arrested after a land ro south london, school a woman arrested after a land ro south london, killing school a woman arrested after a land ro south london, killing two hool in south london, killing two children rebailed until children has been rebailed until january. old january. the 46 year old was arrested scene on arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by dangerous suspicion of causing death by da anerousof tea at at an end of year tea party at the school the study prep school in wimbledon the study prep school in wimltreated scene the were treated at the scene of the crash and several, including a seven were taken seven month old girl, were taken to hospital with non—life threatening as boris threatening injuries. as boris johnson's warned rishi sunak threatening injuries. as boris johnsondeliveringrishi sunak threatening injuries. as boris johnson deliveringrirmutilated against delivering a mutilated version of hs2. the former prime minister version of hs2. the former prime minisspeed link be high speed rail link could be curtailed the curtailed over cost were the height and treasury height of insanity and treasury dnven height of insanity and treasury driven as the driven nonsense as the government's to deny government's refused to deny reports claiming birmingham reports claiming the birmingham to manchester route will be scrapped david cameron's scrapped. david cameron's also raised , according to raised concerns, according to reports in the times , which reports in the times, which claims the planned line to east midlands parkway could be midlands parkway could also be under cabinet under threat. shadow cabinet minister anneliese dodds says the needs clarity . the country needs clarity. >> this was a major plank of the

government's claims around levelling up. there has been speculation in fact over the last 13 years, including just the last few days around these projects. that's not the way to be delivering that kind of infrastructure , and labour would infrastructure, and labour would have a very different approach . have a very different approach. we would make sure not only that we sped up infrastructure projects, but that we then didn't have this kind of speculation and instability because it's causing huge , huge because it's causing huge, huge issues for our country's reputation . reputation. >> meanwhile, the prime minister is considering plans that would effectively ban cigarettes for the next generation. would entail steadily increasing the legal age for consuming tobacco , as has been reported in the guardian. if implemented by 2026, it would mean anyone aged 15 and under now would never be able to buy a cigarette . a able to buy a cigarette. a smoking cost society in the region of £17 billion per year, according to government research. 2.4 billion of that goes to the nhs alone . the goes to the nhs alone. the ministers are also under stood

to be looking at plans to ban disposable vapes . to be looking at plans to ban disposable vapes. humans are in danger of losing control to machines because artificial intelligence is developing too fast for regulators to keep up. that's the view of the deputy prime minister , who urged world prime minister, who urged world leaders to recognise the threat of ai at the un general assembly in new york last night. oliver dowden says the government will push to create an internet national regulatory body when the uk hosts an ai safety summit in november. in an effort to protect humanity's future ai revolution will be a bracing test for the multilateral system to show that it can work together on a question that will define the fate of humanity , define the fate of humanity, i.e. our future , humanity's i.e. our future, humanity's future , our entire planet's future, our entire planet's future, our entire planet's future depends on our ability to do so. >> that that is our challenge . >> that that is our challenge. and this is our opportunity to

be truly the united nations un's russell brand attacked the media in a new online post after what he says has been an extraordinary and distressing week. >> he lashed out at the government , at big tech and government, at big tech and media, suggesting moves to de—man ties. his social media content comes in the context of the online safety bill, which mr brand claims has been passed into law . it hasn't. he also into law. it hasn't. he also made remarks concerning free speech and collusion with the deep state before asking people to follow him on rumble. mr brand earned significant advertising revenue from the platform he chose not to address the allegations made against him of sexual and of rape, sexual assault and emotional and denies emotional abuse and denies wrongdoing . nearly a third of wrongdoing. nearly a third of patients have suffered long term organ damage because of covid 19, according to the findings of abnormalities in the lungs were almost 14 times higher in those

who had the virus. abnormal findings involving the brain and kidneys were three and two times higher, respectively . the extent higher, respectively. the extent of the damage, though often influenced by the severity of their infection, their age and other diseases in the body . other diseases in the body. eyewitness videos emerged, which captures the moment a ukrainian missile struck russia's black sea naval headquarters in annexed crimea yesterday. smoke can be seen rising from the building in the city of sevastopol before a second missile strikes . it's understood missile strikes. it's understood the weapons were supplied by britain and france. moscow says one serviceman is missing, revising its earlier statement that he died. the head of ukraine's military intelligence has told the voice of america nine people were killed, including the commander of russia's black sea fleet . and russia's black sea fleet. and more than two dozen giraffes in kenya have been fitted with gps tracking devices. conservationists at the masai mara national reserve are hoping the data gathered will help them understand and better protect dwindling populations. once

widespread across parts of africa , giraffe numbers have africa, giraffe numbers have declined by up to 80% since the mid 90s. with migration often caused by climate change. a particular concern this is gb news on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now it's back to nana. >> thank you , aaron. it's fast >> thank you, aaron. it's fast approaching. seven minutes after 3:00. it's time to mock the week. and what a mucky one. it's been.the week. and what a mucky one. it's been. the russell brand saga continues. dame caroline dinenage, chair of the house of commons culture, media and sport committee , was rumbled after she committee, was rumbled after she wrote a series of letters to social media platforms and media owners and one such platform was rumble , where she stated she was rumble, where she stated she was concerned that russell brand could profit from his content and was ultimately calling for him to be demonetised like on youtube. but rumble wasn't having any of it. the ceo called

her letter extremely disturbing that the company would not join in on a cancel culture mob. now, russell brand, who has strongly denied allegations of rape and sexual assault, has 1.4 million followers on the platform and posted a daily show until the allegations emerged last week, he broke his silence again last night . night. >> by now, you're probably aware that the british government have asked big tech platforms to censor our online content and that some online platforms have complied with that require quest. >> well, you may not know is that this happens in the context of the online safety bill, which is a piece of uk legislation that grants sweeping surveillance and censorship powers . and it's a law that has powers. and it's a law that has already been passed once . already been passed once. >> i think it's been passed just yet. russell but there are now calls for dame to quit calls for dame caroline to quit as chair committee, as as chair of the committee, as russell be charged as chair of the committee, as russianything. be charged as chair of the committee, as russianything. and)e charged as chair of the committee, as russianything. and)e ifarrged as chair of the committee, as russianything. and)e ifar ,|ed as chair of the committee, as russianything. and)e ifar , this with anything. and so far, this is by media, which mrs. is a trial by media, which mrs. t mrs. thatcher warned of the perils many moons ago .

perils many moons ago. >> a court of law is the place where you deal with these matters if you ever get to trial by television or guilt by accusation that day, for freedom dies . dies. >> absolutely prosecute someone if they've broken the law . but if they've broken the law. but the punishment should be meted out in a court of law, not by the court of public opinion, the media an overzealous mp. also media or an overzealous mp. also though, this week the brilliant kemi badenoch was asked a series of ridiculously patronising questions on sky news after rishi sunak declared he was delaying a very small part of net zero, allowing the purchase of petrol and diesel cars of new petrol and diesel cars until in line with the eu. until 2035. in line with the eu. and he made a few concessions on gas boilers, heat pumps and meat. >> these changes , they don't >> these changes, they don't really help the poorest in society . a lot of people would society. a lot of people would argue the poorest in society aren't fretting about when they're their they're going to replace their car because car with an electric car because the don't the poorest in society don't drive country. drive in this country. >> think in society >> i think i think in society are not worried about installing

are not worried about installing a but that a heater. so sorry, but that is a heater. so sorry, but that is a if you a ludicrous statement. if you step outside of london, come to my constituency , you will find my constituency, you will find the poorest in society drive because they live in a rural area where poor people don't drive. honestly, what is she on about .7 and again, this week we about? and again, this week we had sir keir starmer flip flopping over brexit and today , flopping over brexit and today, well, there's even a march for people that just can't let it go. >> the will of the people now is to rejoin even the daily express . latest polls show that 84% of their readers want to either rejoin or have a second referendum. this is something we have to talk about. the idea and the message that we're sending to politicians as they go into party conference is just that, that the will of the people is to rejoin the eu to and stop the damage that's happening to our country . country. >> don't who she is asked, but my star of week has to be gb my star of the week has to be gb news, which was most watched news, which was the most watched news channel tuesday and beat news channel on tuesday and beat sky three days in a row sky news for three days in a row . now a former bbc boss also speculated newsnight their speculated that newsnight their once flagship show could be

scrapped due to so few viewers. the tide is turning. well done , the tide is turning. well done, gb news. and to those who said that we would would only would be gone in six months, nothing like blowing your own trumpet. it's been a mucky old week . so it's been a mucky old week. so coming up this hour, comedian dan spencer will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week. here's what else is coming up. 2020. it's climate control sunak is finally control rishi sunak is finally taking action as he sets out his changes to the government's net zero plans, delaying the ban of the sale of new petrol and diesel cars until 2035. but is that enough? then 335, we'll that enough? then at 335, we'll be heading live to parliament square in london as we get the latest on the national rejoin march as a whole load of moaners or remainers take to the streets demanding the uk rejoins the european union and my star guest and political spotlight, susanna hall will be live in the studio. she's in the fight of her life

as she takes on london mayor sadiq ulez notting hill, sadiq khan ulez notting hill, climate culture and tory party politics. it's all on the table . that's coming up in this hour. .that's coming up in this hour. tell what you think on tell me what you think on everything discussing. everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. all right. tweet me at. gb news. all right. time to mark the week with comedian diane spencer. diane russell brand. gosh, this saga's run bling on. >> it really is. >> it really is. >> and also, i mean, she dame caroline is the minister for culture, media and sport. >> why have they lumped those together? >> i mean, i don't know how many opera singers like doing jujitsu, but thanks for just lumping us all into one. she wrote a letter. you're the minister for media, darling. i mean, i'm surprised she didn't send a fax . could she not have send a fax. could she not have sent something a bit more up to date? possibly an email? >> well, she sent lots of letters, actually. she wrote to tick tock gb news. she wrote to quite a few people. tick tock gb news. she wrote to qui'it's few people. tick tock gb news. she wrote to qui'it's just people. tick tock gb news. she wrote to qui' it's just the ple. tick tock gb news. she wrote to qui'it's just the fact she's >> it's just the fact she's writing it's very

writing letters. it's very antiquated. they antiquated. i'm surprised they haven't by pigeon. yeah haven't arrived by pigeon. yeah so what i've essentially surmised is this story is that parliament? karen has written to space. karen elon musk to complain about the charlie manson stunt double that he might be earning money now . now, might be earning money now. now, to be fair, russell brand was complaining that he's being de—platformed . he's actually not de—platformed. he's actually not he's not being silenced. he's just being demonetised . but that just being demonetised. but that is still wrong because absolutely nothing has happened in a court of law. absolutely nothing has happened in a court of law . i think she in a court of law. i think she should change her title all to maybe minister for casual authority aryanism is that how you pronounce it? >> you know, surely due process needs to occur. if somebody is guilty, they should be found guilty. innocent, guilty, they should be found guilt should innocent, guilty, they should be found guilt should found:ent, guilty, they should be found guilt should found innocent. they should be found innocent. but must but at least this process must be done in the manner, be done in the correct manner, not by somebody just deciding we're to take your we're going to take away your income things income because some things have come we believe that to come out and we believe that to be the allegations , some be true. the allegations, some of are very serious. yeah, of them are very serious. yeah, but still but that's still they still have not court of law. >> no, no. and that is a major

problem. dame problem. and you know what, dame caroline , if you the caroline, if you are the minister culture , media minister for culture, media and sport, maybe do sport, could you maybe do something like, don't know , something like, i don't know, regulate the comedy industry ? regulate the comedy industry? because i work in an industry that has no regulation whatsoever , and instead of just whatsoever, and instead of just sort of going with the trial by media and writing to tiktok about russell brand, could you maybe put in some safeguards for apparently the cesspit where this all happened? >> well, they have the online safety bill that is currently sort rumbling underneath sort of rumbling on underneath all been all of this. it hasn't been passed but suspect passed fully yet, but i suspect it will be. but our eyes have been distracted. about kemi been distracted. what about kemi badenoch ? she's she's badenoch now? she's she's she's a love her. a tiger. i love her. >> that was amazing . i can't >> that was amazing. i can't believe that the woman at sky news, when poor people don't have cars. and i was thinking, do you mean like chauffeur car do you mean like a chauffeur car that picks you up from your presumably huge mansion and drives you to sky news? because no, we don't have those things. >> madam jane saker i think her name is. >> well, the way that she was talking about poor people, which

patronising. >> it's horrendous. you think ? awful. >> what do you think we are , my >> what do you think we are, my darling? like, does she think we're all sort of victorians that are sweeping chimneys and. oh, that are sweeping chimneys and. oh, i that are sweeping chimneys and. oh, i wish i could watch sky news , but i don't have one of news, but i don't have one of them telly box is now. >> of course she would say that she's simply talking for the poor country, poor people of this country, but i tone quite i just found her tone quite patronising. >> patronising >> it was immensely patronising and i'm glad that kimmy stood up for it. but ludicrous. >> it was ludicrous. >> it was ludicrous. >> but the problem is, it does take away then from like the serious point of like, well, that means that some landlords aren't going to put better insulation in the renters homes. you know . so because this sky you know. so because this sky news presenter made such a stupid comment about poor people because we're all riding around on our penny farthings in her mind , it means that she's mind, it means that she's actually taken away from the genuine debate . genuine debate. >> it was it was one of the most patronising things i've seen, the way she was talking. and then she pointed later then she pointed out later on in in that she's then she pointed out later on in in from that she's then she pointed out later on in in from newcastle at she's then she pointed out later on in in from newcastle and1e's

then she pointed out later on in in from newcastle and she she's from newcastle and she lives in a rural area. and i thought , well, lives in a rural area. and i thought, well, probably the mansion newcastle . what about mansion in newcastle. what about the that's the brexit march that's happening today? just happening today? people just don't let it don't seem to be able to let it go. miller was pointing go. and gina miller was pointing out most people want to out that most people want to rejoin. my experience rejoin. that's not my experience of no , and what because >> no, no. and what because people keep saying keir starmer and flip flopping, i thought, oh my god , is he doing that march my god, is he doing that march and flop ? i thought i would and flip flop? i thought i would actually that . it actually like to see that. it would of personality would add a bit of personality to yeah, i think the to him. yeah, no, i think the worry is a lot of people think he's make us join the worry is a lot of people think he' by make us join the worry is a lot of people think he' by stealth make us join the worry is a lot of people think he' by stealth ,1ake us join the worry is a lot of people think he' by stealth , and us join the worry is a lot of people think he' by stealth , and i'veoin the worry is a lot of people think he' by stealth , and i've worked eu by stealth, and i've worked out how he's going to do it, like because he's so boring going, we're going to like, he'll talking and we'll he'll start talking and we'll sort of start ignoring him and that's he'll slip it in. so that's when he'll slip it in. so he'll sort of talk, talk, talk and and should be and then go and we should all be driving right and we'll driving on the right and we'll all yeah, all right, fine , all go, yeah, all right, fine, whatever. that's whatever. and then that's how it's going to happen. >> that seem be >> well, that does seem to be his his tack. and finally, start of the week, gb news. >> yeah. and you know what? those people who tried to do an advertising boycott, well , now advertising boycott, well, now you haven't got people to

advertise to, have you? because there people watching there are people watching because channel where you there are people watching bectactually channel where you there are people watching bectactually have nnel where you there are people watching bectactually have a1el where you there are people watching bectactually have a chat.|ere you can actually have a chat. >> well, and also our viewers can actually have a chat. >> very, and also our viewers can actually have a chat. >> very, and loyal. ur viewers can actually have a chat. >> very, and loyal. they'rezrs can actually have a chat. >> viveryand loyal. they'rezrs can actually have a chat. >> vivery loyal»yal. they'rezrs can actually have a chat. >> vivery loyal .al. they'rezrs can actually have a chat. >> vivery loyal . they|ey're3rs very, very loyal. they are responsive and they reciprocate . we ask them questions. they get in the channel. we get involved in the channel. we appreciate everything they've brought to us. yeah, yeah. >> met some so lovely >> i've met some ever so lovely people to gb news and people who come to gb news and they watch it and always they do watch it and we always have a lovely little chat after like comedy gigs have a lovely little chat after like the comedy gigs have a lovely little chat after like the country, :omedy gigs have a lovely little chat after like the country, we edy gigs have a lovely little chat after like the country, we are gigs have a lovely little chat after like the country, we are very around the country, we are very popular and it's nice that people do tune so thank you people do tune in so thank you very much everybody. it's lovely i >> -- >> well, thank you. diana spencen >> well, thank you. diana spencer, for spencer, thank you very much for joining on joining me. you're back on saturday five, aren't you? >> to do the >> yeah, i'm going to do the saturday five for the first time. bit time. and i'm a little bit nervous. week. nervous. no, that's next week. so i've got kind of a week to sort my debating muscles. >> thank you very much, diane spencen a >> thank you very much, diane spencer. a comedian. you spencer. she's a comedian. you can find her on youtube. check her is gb news. if her out. but this is gb news. if you've just joined welcome you've just joined me. welcome on to 17 on board. coming up to 17 minutes 3:00. i'm nana minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. up, conservative akua. coming up, conservative candidate for london mayor suzanne will be live in the suzanne hall will be live in the studio. she's my political spotlight this week . nothing

spotlight this week. nothing will be left on the table. we're going to discuss ulez notting hill carnival. sadiq khan , his hill carnival. sadiq khan, his policing board as well and a whole lot more. but now it's the weather. check it out . weather. check it out. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg jewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's all change again through tonight and into sunday. more rain moving in. the winds increasing through the day, but temperatures rising as well. and it's all thanks to this area of low pressure which will in weather fronts will sweep in weather fronts through the of the rest through the course of the rest of weekend into the of the weekend into the beginning week to the beginning of next week to the tight indicating those tight isobars indicating those strong winds. so we do have some dry weather a time this dry weather for a time this evening, particularly across central areas. but evening, particularly across cen'rain areas. but evening, particularly across cen'rain in areas. but evening, particularly across cen'rain in west areas. but evening, particularly across cen'rain in west pushing jt the rain in the west pushing in as we move into the early hours. the rain turning heavy at times, particularly hills , particularly across the hills, across into of across scotland into parts of northern england and wales to temperatures higher than recent nights, generally staying in

double figures as that mild air moves in and the winds start to pick up, too. so it means a bit of a cloudy start to sunday morning. outbreaks of rain across england , wales, across northern england, wales, southwest england. to some glimmers for glimmers of sunshine for southeast england, northern parts scotland for a time, parts of scotland for a time, too. and then this rain generally moves northwards through turning through the day, turning particularly heavy over the high ground. met office warning ground. the met office warning in afternoon into in force for the afternoon into the for of the evening for parts of scotland. heavy rain for northern northern northern ireland, northern england, two bright spells further south, which will lift temperatures up around 21 temperatures up to around 21 celsius into monday . we see that celsius into monday. we see that weather system clear away . we're weather system clear away. we're left with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered to spells and scattered showers to take us through the day and then it stays unsettled. tuesday and into wednesday as well. further showers tuesday, heavy rain, strong winds likely on wednesday i >> -- >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers, proud sponsors up. boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> gosh, if only they were

heating up. my heating is on is yours. this is gb news on tv , yours. this is gb news on tv, onune yours. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, once we get the latest on the national rejoin, march as the whole of mons or remainers take off to the streets demanding that the uk joins the eu but up next is climate control. and as rishi sunak walks back about on some of the net zero policies, delaying the ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars until 2035, this enough? this is .

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international commitments by 2050. of course that's enshrined in law. i think theresa may was part of the team that instigated that , but he part of the team that instigated that, but he said that the burden should not fall unfairly on hard pressed british families. several members of his own party, however, including former prime minister boris johnson, have criticised the delays . so johnson, have criticised the delays. so i'm joined now by jim dale, senior meteorologist and ross clark, author of not zero. right. i'm going to start with you, ross. first of all, is this not a well that rishi sunak has actually listened to what people are saying and started to sort of delay ? it's not for long, but of delay? it's not for long, but it's a delay. is this not a good thing ? thing? >> well, it is welcome. yes >> well, it is welcome. yes >> it's introducing a much needed bit of realism into the debate and realising you don't just achieve things magically by setting targets, but the things that worry me, there's one target which deadline which he didn't mention on wednesday and which remains in place, which is to decarb urbanise the

electricity grid by 2035. labour want to do that by 2030, by the way . now at the moment we are way. now at the moment we are utterly reliant on gas to balance them into competent wind and solar energy. and when the wind is not blowing, the sun is not shining. we rely on turning up the gas. now if we don't have that facility , what do we do? that facility, what do we do? i mean , you can get in, mean, you can get in, particularly in winter , you can particularly in winter, you can go for days on end without much in the way of solar energy, much in the way of solar energy, much in way of wind energy. and in the way of wind energy. and if we don't have gas to do that and are alternatives and what are the alternatives that are extremely expensive? lithium and store lithium batteries and store energy and a lithium battery costs about 6 or 7 times as much as it costs to generate electricity in the first place. um, hydro egeon could we make hydrogen on a wind? windy days and use it on non windy days ? and use it on non windy days? well, that's very embryonic technology and promises to be very expensive when it when it is when if it does work. so

we've got this huge crunch coming in within the next sort of dozen years where we um you know the national grid will collapse without, um, without gas . gas. >> well, this is a good point you make , jim. what do you say you make, jim. what do you say to that? because the national grid is likely collapse grid is likely to collapse without ultimately , why without gas and ultimately, why aren't transferring aren't we simply transferring our so we'll our loyalties? so we'll be relying on china now for scarce earth minerals and all the people who mined those rather than actually being self—sufficient. after all, we have oil and gas. we have our own oil and gas. we could doing own thing and could be doing our own thing and fracking. not at all. fracking. jim dale not at all. >> actually, i think ross is meandering, to be frank with you , to pick exactly where he's , to pick up exactly where he's going with this. but what i would say, you mentioned the title of this one is about sunak. and his, um, his climate fiddling. i can call it. so right away you like the people who have their say. i know that in absolute terms. so . 78% of in absolute terms. so. 78% of people in a poll directly after

the climate , the climate the climate, the climate mitigation thing by sunak, but they don't trust him. he's he's also the lowest point as pm in the same poll since he's been pm. >> the problem this with this is that he's not he's not actually asking the experts. >> he's not going along with with those. he's just coming out with those. he's just coming out with a blase statement , some of with a blase statement, some of it ridiculous in terms of the meat side of things and not getting many people in cars. getting too many people in cars. >> bogus . >> it's bogus. >> it's bogus. >> and to honest with you, >> and to be honest with you, the seen so 78% the people have seen it so 78% of don't trust he of people don't trust what he said , he on the said, what he says on the climate . climate. >> doesn't that say it all? >> doesn't that say it all? >> well , i >> doesn't that say it all? >> well, i don't really think that's is it? that's the point, though, is it? >> if they don't >> because even if they don't trust may trust him, they may well be grateful for that, because some of those changes things of those changes were things like landlords change like getting landlords to change the in their, you know, the boilers in their, you know, putting heat pumps in and reaching arbitrary reaching a certain arbitrary standard within a couple of years . i'm standard within a couple of years. i'm landlord, have my years. i'm a landlord, i have my own. i have a property i can't afford or whatever it afford 15 grand or whatever it is pump . he's also

is for a heat pump. he's also offered , you know, i think the offered, you know, i think the specifics of this, i've always said on your programme , it's an said on your programme, it's an evolution, not revolution. evolution, not a revolution. >> i know there will be as >> and i know there will be as we along , there be we go along, there will be little make sure little twiddles to make sure that people don't fall under the net, out of the net or whatever else. >> exactly what is. >> exactly what this is. jim yeah , but isn't that exactly yeah, but isn't that exactly what he's done? look surely this little welcome little twiddle is, is welcome i ross, do you think he should have gone further ? well i do. have gone further? well i do. >> i think he will have to go further at some point. and i think the whole net zero target will have to be revisited at some time. and jim's just accused me of sort of meandering by bringing the matter of the by bringing up the matter of the national grid. i mean, this is utterly essential to the country. this is what makes country. and this is what makes me frustrated on this issue, me so frustrated on this issue, because you know, setting this net zero target is just about the biggest, most far reaching piece of legislation that's been passed in britain in modern times. you know, it has impacts on the way we live.

>> you know why this is without any consideration of how much it would cost, whether it was possible. >> there was no impact statement. no, no , no. you know, statement. no, no, no. you know, no cost benefit analysis. and all there was was a vote where mps nodded it through and thought, that sounds vaguely virtuous. and, you know, people like you and all the mps , they like you and all the mps, they just ignore the real issues like how are we going to pay? >> what you're ignoring? ross you're ignoring what's happened in the last decade, and particularly years. particularly the last two years. we even mentioned the we haven't even mentioned the word weather yet. weather impacts . this is what is impacts. this is what this is about, is about the mitigation of those. is what of those. this is what scientists and what's scientists are saying and what's happening with is is happening with sunak is that is leading with the politics rather than listening to the science. and you're going on about all of these. yes. you meander ring going on little bits going all on these little bits and pieces that, they will and pieces that, yes, they will be put together in the end. that's of travel be put together in the end. thatwe're of travel be put together in the end. thatwe're going of travel be put together in the end. thatwe're going but'avel be put together in the end. thatwe're going but you've that we're going in. but you've got to you've got to realise what bottom line is here. what the bottom line is here. you don't have to to many you don't have to go to many

weeks what weeks back to look at what happened , for example, weeks back to look at what happe was , for example, weeks back to look at what happe was and , for example, weeks back to look at what happewas and declaredzxample, weeks back to look at what happewas and declared asmple, which was and declared as a climate instigated event . and climate instigated event. and there'll be more to come in the southern hemisphere. >> jim . we're not not heading in >> jim. we're not not heading in that direction . it looks like that direction. it looks like we're going to be forced to go in that direction. but if people can't it , if they can't can't afford it, if they can't afford , i mean, that's what afford it, i mean, that's what he's listening to. why shouldn't he's listening to. why shouldn't he listen to them ? he listen to them? >> i tell what, can't afford >> i tell you what, can't afford . they afford the . yeah, they can't afford the energy bills that are there at this moment in time. they can't afford the petrol that's gone up to nearly $100 a barrel this week opec. this is week through opec. this is that's the real world. that's the fossil fuel world. so when we talk about not affording it, those are the things that are real. and now as well as the cost of living in terms food, cost of living in terms of food, which is not a lot to do with our discussion today. so that's where starts . where it all starts. >> well, but electricity is extremely expensive right now anyway . and as ross said, if the anyway. and as ross said, if the wind doesn't blow, if the sun doesn't shine, we're in trouble. so we going to do ? so what are we going to do? ross, final word to you. you've

so what are we going to do? ros aboutl word to you. you've so what are we going to do? ros about 20s.d to you. you've so what are we going to do? ros about 20s. whatou. you've so what are we going to do? ros about 20s. what are you've so what are we going to do? ros about 20s. what are we�*ve so what are we going to do? ros about 20s. what are we going got about 20s. what are we going to do? >> well, i wish the government would explain what we're going to do if we're to going decarbonise the grid. i mean, net zero is extremely complex thing to achieve. i would take electric cars even if you could get everybody driving electric cars, the electric car is not zero. carbon emissions , anything zero. carbon emissions, anything like it. and lead the manufacture of an electric car involves more carbon emissions than the manufacture of a petrol and diesel car. and there are just so many technological problems to overcome before we can get anywhere near net zero. and the government shows absolutely very, very little sign of a, you know, dealing with any of these issues. and how it's going to achieve it without massive . without massive. >> well, listen, blown it. well, well, listen, we're running out of time , but it's good to talk of time, but it's good to talk to both of you. jim dale, thank you senior you very much. senior meteorologist also meteorologist and also ross clark, not zero. let's clark, author of not zero. let's have quick look what you've have a quick look at what you've been saying on the topics we've

been saying on the topics we've been okay. so been discussing today. okay. so claire londoners appear claire says londoners appear to think they are the centre think that they are the centre of the universe, when in fact, london crime. london is just a den of crime. lord knows drugs, illegal immigrants and various other corruptions . okay. neil says the corruptions. okay. neil says the uk needs to concentrate on its own issues instead of continuing to debate about the eu. that ship has sailed. ramona and sir keir starmer need to accept the brexit vote and mark says this march to rejoin is a disgrace. we haven't even begun to see what brexit can offer, not to mention blinkered , mention these blinkered, blinkered, blinded folk . sorry blinkered, blinded folk. sorry of failing to notice. the eu is in the worst state in the uk. germany is in recession and migration is fast dividing the continent once again . continent once again. absolutely. i mean, schengen doesn't look like it's working . doesn't look like it's working. it looks like free movement for migrants , you're with it looks like free movement for mig|i'm; , you're with it looks like free movement for mig|i'm nana , you're with it looks like free movement for mig|i'm nana akua.'ou're with it looks like free movement for mig|i'm nana akua. thise with it looks like free movement for mig|i'm nana akua. this is'ith it looks like free movement for mig|i'm nana akua. this is gb me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio on the way. london candidate for mayor, suzanne hall is this week's political spotlight . nothing will be left spotlight. nothing will be left off the table. we're going to discuss ulez notting hill

carnival. sadiq khan, his policing board and a whole lot more. first, though, let's get your news with tatiana your latest news with tatiana sanchez. your latest news with tatiana sanchez . nana. sanchez. nana. >> thank you. it's 533. this is the latest, a 46 year old woman has been bailed until january next year as the investigation into a crash in wimbledon continues to. eight year old girls died when a land rover crashed through the fence of a study prep school in july . 16 study prep school in july. 16 people were treated at the scene. several including a seven month old girl, were taken to hospital. the woman was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving and was later bailed . to former prime bailed. to former prime ministers have urged rishi sunak to reconsider plans to scrap the northern legs of hs2 . boris northern legs of hs2. boris johnson says suggestions the birmingham to manchester route could be curtailed over cost are desperate treasury driven nonsense . david cameron has also nonsense. david cameron has also privately voiced his concerns,

according to the times , as it's according to the times, as it's central to the tories levelling up agenda. last week the government refused to guarantee hs2 would continue to . hs2 would continue to. manchester smoking could be effective , banned for young effective, banned for young people of a certain age under plans being considered by the prime minister. the legal age would progressively rise eventually making tobacco totally illegal for the next generation. as reported in the guardian . and russell brand has guardian. and russell brand has accused the government of working with big tech to censor him. he claims moved to demonetise his social media content occurred in the context of the online safety bill which hasn't yet been passed into law. in a video released last night, the comedian thanked his supporters after an extraordinary and distressing week. it follows allegations of sexual assault made against him following a joint investigation by channel 4, the times and the sunday times claims mr brand has denied you can get more on all

of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to nana . coming up, back to nana. coming up, political spotlight. >> and this week it's tory candidate for london mayor suzanne hall. and nothing left on the table. we're discussing ulez , notting hill carnival, ulez, notting hill carnival, sadiq khan and loads more. stay tuned. but next hundreds have gathered in london, taking to the streets as part of the rejoin , demanding that the rejoin march, demanding that the uk the eu . we'll have uk rejoins the eu. we'll have the latest updates. don't go

online gb news. britain's news. channel well , come back. channel well, come back. >> 39 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. you haven't noticed my two front teeth where i look like a rabbit. i'm not going to show you. but let's move on you. but anyway, let's move on because i really want to talk about pro european about this as the pro european national rejoin march, which is taking the taking place throughout the capital today. now, along with joining the eu, their aim is for the word rejoin to become as mainstream as the word brexit. so joining me now is gb news reporter ray addison, who is there at the march. ray right now. i saw you speaking to gina miller earlier. she was of the impression people in impression that most people in this go back this country want to go back into the eu. what people into the eu. what are people saying there ? saying there? >> it's very interesting . nana >> it's very interesting. nana good afternoon to you. good afternoon to our viewers and listeners of course, i've been speaking to people as they've

been taking in this march . been taking part in this march. it as a way of it was billed as a way of getting rejoined back on the agenda. however chatting to people, it feels like there's no real kind of clear or unified vision for exactly how that might happen. in fact, when i asked people exactly how are we going rejoin, i get sort of going to rejoin, i get sort of confused faces in a way. i feel like today is an opportunity for people who are pretty cheesed off how things worked off with how things have worked out the last seven years, out over the last seven years, kind together and have a kind of come together and have a bit a collective moan, a bit bit of a collective moan, a bit of a collective group hug, but there's real vision on on how there's no real vision on on how we actually going to rejoin we are actually going to rejoin here in parliament square at that stage of the event where we've speakers up on the we've got speakers up on the stage, been calling stage, they've been calling brexit a national mistake. they are pointing out, as you said, their nana that they feel the polls are trending towards rejoin and particularly among young people. mr stop brexit. steve bray has been up on stage . he accused the government of being in denial over how popular another referendum would be and

he did get big applause, has to be said when he said that the tory government needs to be removed. politicians zack polanski has been on his a deputy leader of the green party . now he called for a change in tactics . he said he urged the tactics. he said he urged the crowd to stop telling people that they were wrong or stupid for voting to leave the european union and he and i think in general that's a good move . we general that's a good move. we need that discourse between both sides to be more respectful and understanding of all of those different views. now, peter cole is the organiser of today's event. he's the co—founder of march for rejoin. i spoke to him a little bit earlier on and i asked him what sort of margin any future referendum would need to have to be legitimate. this is what he said. >> o nigel farage famously said if it was 50 to 48 in favour of remain that it wouldn't be over as it was the other way around. >> it's not over like nigel

farage said . but i do >> it's not over like nigel farage said. but i do think it should be higher than 52. and i think it would be higher than 52.the think it would be higher than 52. the polling right now shows about. 52. the polling right now shows about . 5,960% for rejoin, and about. 5,960% for rejoin, and that's before there's even really a mainstream rejoin campaign. over 80% of under 25 year olds in polling want to rejoin for me, it's inevitable. what are we waiting for? >> well, of course, 59% of people are saying no. they do not want a referendum this year . only 39% of people would want a referendum in five years time. and you have to go all the way, ten years from today for 46% of people to say, yes, let's have a referendum in 2033. that's the time for a referendum. so it's by no means conclusive. now in terms of the numbers that have turned out today, 50,000 organisers said back in october of 2022. today they're saying 70 to 80,000. and i would be

absolutely amazed if that was correct . i'm putting it more correct. i'm putting it more like 510 if i'm being generous, although the figures i'm sure will be released and we'll we'll find out. but there's not very many people here. and you have to add into that. there's also been ulez demonstration that's been a ulez demonstration that's taken part and a bully dog demonstrate as well. they've all kind of combine through this area outside of parliament at well listen, ray, good to talk to you. >> thank you so much for that. that's he's the that's ray addison. he's at the national in london. national rejoin march in london. but now for this but it's time now for this week's political spotlight and joining me to shine a light on london politics the london politics is the conservative candidate conservative mayoral candidate for mayor who's taking on for london mayor who's taking on sadiq khan. suzanne hall, london wide assembly member. since 2017, suzanne replaced fellow firebrand conservative councillor kemi badenoch and has since been re—elected to the assembly in 2021. small businesswoman by trade, she's spent the last decade working on local councils seeking to improve the lives of her constituents , and now she faces constituents, and now she faces her biggest challenge yet, knocking out sadiq khan to

become london mayor. following in the footsteps of former prime minister boris johnson. and while polls show khan looks likely to hang on, do not discount suzanne hall . likely to hang on, do not discount suzanne hall. i'm thrilled to say this is and joins me now in the studio. suzanne, thank so for suzanne, thank you so much for joining me. suzanne, thank you so much for joirthankz. forinviting suzanne, thank you so much for joirthankz. for inviting me. >> thank you for inviting me. >> thank you for inviting me. >> let's get >> well, now, listen, let's get straight . what made straight in there. what made you decide want to go for trying decide to want to go for trying to london mayor to be london mayor >> just let's look at the >> well, just let's look at the state of london. i mean, we've got the most beautiful city in the world. >> the mayor of london is responsible for the police . and responsible for the police. and our police are in special measures first ever i >> -- >> also responsible for tfl, which is transport for london. just look at the states of both of our streets and everything's gridlocked and nothing but trouble on the trains. >> et cetera. et cetera. and housing. and he hasn't built enough houses as he's been there long enough to have made a difference to those things . so difference to those things. so i want to replace him and i want to put things right. looking forward , must forward forward, we must look forward to a positive of london, a much more positive of london, and will bring that.

and i will bring that. >> so looking at some of the things that have happened so last month, august, wasn't it? god, feels everything's god, it feels like everything's going quickly. we had going to go so quickly. we had notting there notting hill carnival. there were eight stabbings, 75 police were eight stabbings, 75 police were hurt, open drug use . we saw were hurt, open drug use. we saw people running through the streets with machetes. what's your plan? because when you david lammy, when you said that carnival was dangerous, he said that that was offensive . and in that that was offensive. and in fact, his words were, i know we've got a slate of it. david lammy that comments lammy said that your comments are someone running to be are for someone running to be london mayor offence live and he felt that that that it would be just and just not you do not share the values london's values. >> why should it be offensive to say that such a successful event like the notting hill carnival could be looked at, to be put in a place that would make it safer for everybody that goes? >> it's a victim of its own success. yes, people enjoy going there, but the roads that they are in, it's outgrown those roads and i'm just saying that i

think the organisers should look to other possibilities. that's all i said . to other possibilities. that's all i said. david lammy seems to take offence at anything that comes out of my mouth . i just comes out of my mouth. i just ignore it because why should i not want londoners to feel safer? >> because i would. i'm inclined to agree with you. i wrote a piece in the daily mail about carnival and i was called all sorts of names just simply sorts of names just to simply pointing out that i am frightened notting hill frightened to go to notting hill carnival. won't go. i've seen frightened to go to notting hill carni'happenedt go. i've seen frightened to go to notting hill carni'happened .go. i've seen frightened to go to notting hill carni'happened . and 've seen frightened to go to notting hill carni'happened . and lasteen frightened to go to notting hill carni'happened . and last the last what happened. and last the last one i saw, which was the one we've just had there was a shot of at least eight youths running through the streets, each of them with individual machetes . them with individual machetes. just i'm not just what i'm like, i'm not going there. >> no, i don't blame and >> no, i don't blame you. and you children you wouldn't want your children going would it going there. you would it it could be so much safer somewhere else . and more and more people else. and more and more people say to me they don't want to go. having said the numbers having said that, the numbers are type of are there, but the type of crimes that everybody says, oh, well, of people that well, the amount of people that there the amount crimes , there to the amount of crimes, it's average . it's it's the normal average. it's the it's the seriousness of those crimes that the

commissioner himself said he was concerned about. so it's not being racist, as are being called for saying that we should look about it moving. it's me just saying let's try and keep londoners safer and while we're talking about it, the police officers that have to police this because says they don't go through choice. they go because they have to. and every year they have to. and every year they put themselves in danger. surely we should be looking at a different way. surely we should be looking at a diff well, way. surely we should be looking at a diffwell,wsuggested hyde park . >> well, i suggested hyde park. at then could police at least then you could police people sure they're not people and make sure they're not going machetes. going in with machetes. >> absolutely. going in with machetes. >> don't solutely. going in with machetes. >> don't solutewhy would >> i don't know why that would be suggestion >> i don't know why that would be now, suggestion >> i don't know why that would be now, course,]gestion >> i don't know why that would be now, course, sadiq n >> i don't know why that would be now, course, sadiq khan then. now, of course, sadiq khan recently announced his london policing board . what are your policing board. what are your views on that ? because you had views on that? because you had one guy there say homes louis, now he's one of the board members that was appointed by khan and actually he liked an abusive tweet about me, which i don't particularly think was very nice. somebody who'd been nasty about me saying hilarious. i piece the global i wrote a piece about the global majority is about sinister , majority is about as sinister, as ethnic as insulting as an ethnic minority bame. you've to

minority or bame. you've got to be super dunce to not see be a super dunce to not see through this. respect to nana akua, is pimping the akua, who is pimping the stupidity racists for every stupidity of racists for every copper penny and the daily mail is her bottom female dog and he liked it. he's part of the policing board. what's your what's your take on this policing board that he's put together? >> i think he also made a comment my colleague shaun comment about my colleague shaun bailey not being a proper black man because he'd said something that was sensible . as it that was sensible. as it happened, the board has been put there because louise casey and her report suggested a board of londoners was put in the objection i've got is that it wasn't an independent panel that chose that that board. it was actually it was the deputy mayor for policing and the chief of staff. and another one of siddique's people. well, it's all very well. they're supposed to be looking at the way he is in charge of policing and he's chosen, in effect , the board chosen, in effect, the board himself. that's not independent

pendant. no. it's also taking the commissioner away from the proper police and crime panel thatis proper police and crime panel that is in london that is properly filled with with people that have been elected to go on that have been elected to go on that board. so that's the issue i've got with it. >> well, of course, sadiq khan isn't here to defend himself, but sadiq khan has insisted that the of 12 the board is made up of 12 independent who've been independent people who've been chosen for their expertise. he says that we have a number of experts board with experts on this board with extensive a number extensive experience in a number of fields some the of fields and some of the country's finest experts. these people with expertise and lived experience will be supporting me in ensuring that the metropolitan police service improves its performance, but also there's extensive scrutiny of the police service to change the systemic and cultural problems there are in the police service and to ensure there is long lasting, permanent change. that is, obviously we'd like to provide balance for that because sadiq isn't here, but that was sort of his intention. what moving to ulez now, this was moving on to ulez now, this was very, very unpopular and i suspect the reason why sadiq

khan did not do well at the labour party did not do well in uxbridge. what's your plan on ulez ulez expansion would be stopped on the first day of m ayoralty. >> mayoralty. >> it's hitting the poorest, the most . some of >> it's hitting the poorest, the most. some of the >> it's hitting the poorest, the most . some of the stories that most. some of the stories that colleagues of mine and myself get are absolutely heartbreaking . people cannot afford to replace their cars. the scrappage scheme is up to £2,000 per car. you can't buy a compliant car for £2,000 and people are having to, if they have to replace their cars , have to replace their cars, they're having to take on loans for this in a cost of living crisis. this is absolutely appalling. and he's not listening to what anybody says. a london mayor should listen to what londoners want, and this is not what londoners want . and, not what londoners want. and, you know, he won't back down on it. even some of his own labour colleagues have said don't do it. but he doesn't care. he he just does now exactly what he wants. well it seems deeply unpopular. >> you've got the people vandalising the cameras. obviously. i don't condone any violence or criminality , but

violence or criminality, but it's deeply unpopular and it does seem to be a bit of a money grab because as long as you can pay grab because as long as you can pay £12.50, then the environment is fine. and where it's stretched out they don't stretched out to, they don't have a problem with environmental out there. environmental issues out there. so it does it does seem like near where i live around sort of north london sort of area , as north london sort of area, as you drive there, you you drive around there, you suddenly end up the zone and suddenly end up in the zone and you start to think to yourself, well, this is a very part well, this is a very leafy part of town . well, that's right. so of town. well, that's right. so why is it out well why is it coming out here? well that's to the that people >> added to the fact that people in london don't mind it so in inner london don't mind it so much have to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the have to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the of have to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the of the have to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the of the road have to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the of the road and/e to go in inner london don't mind it so m|the of the road and you go to the end of the road and you can get a train. you can get a bus or a train. you can't the outskirts can't do that in the outskirts of people do rely on of london. so people do rely on their cars. and saw that piece their cars. and i saw that piece on sky other morning . kemi on sky the other morning. kemi badenoch was completely correct. poor people do own cars because they often do shift work, which is you know, unpopular. they go into london late at night or, you know , through the through you know, through the through the night. some carers, etcetera, they rely on their car and they have to have a car

because there isn't public transport. >> well that's the problem isn't it. it's almost as though he hasn't about the hasn't thought about the transport outside transport structures outside central of course central london because of course they're not as frequent and they're not as frequent and they're easy. and then as they're not as easy. and then as you go into further parts of this spreading this country, so spreading out into parts of its into the other parts of its transport structure isn't good at all. but sadiq khan, of course, isn't to here defend himself. course, isn't to here defend himsabout ulez when he spoke to said about ulez when he spoke to our editor, our political editor, christopher . christopher hope. >> decision expand the >> a decision to expand the ultra low emission zone to all of london was a difficult one. >> it wasn't an easy one, but i think it's vital decision and it's the right one. let me tell you why we now know the evidence in relation to the consequences of air pollution , and it leads of air pollution, and it leads to around 4000 premature deaths a year , at least two children a year, at least two children having stunted lungs forever , having stunted lungs forever, older adults with a whole host of health issues from asthma to cancer dementia heart cancer to dementia to heart disease . we also know that disease. we also now know that one of the most effective ways to reduce air pollution is with us. how do we know that in central london we've seen a reduction of around 50% of

toxicity nitrogen dioxide ? toxicity nitrogen dioxide? >> well, okay. so that's what he has to say about that makes me so mad to see that because tfl transport for london's own impact assessment said the extended ulez would make virtually no difference whatsoever for and he knows that there's other ways of doing this. >> you got it right when you said earlier it's about money. £200 million. they reckon they're going to make out of this a year off the back of the poorest of londoners. that's not good enough. a mayor shouldn't do that. and the things he do that. and the things that he was saying there are simply was just saying there are simply incorrect . right. incorrect. right. >> well, listen, and i've got to come you. the come back to you. the conservative party conference, you're to speaking you're not going to be speaking yet, is that right? >> but that's fine, to be >> yes. but that's fine, to be honest with you. i want to be talking londoners honest with you. i want to be talking ones londoners honest with you. i want to be talking ones that londoners honest with you. i want to be talking ones that vote _ondoners honest with you. i want to be talking ones that vote .yndoners honest with you. i want to be talking ones that vote . and|ers honest with you. i want to be talking ones that vote . and if's are the ones that vote. and if they vote for me, we will they don't vote for me, we will end sadiq khan back in end up with sadiq khan back in again and met anybody again. and i haven't met anybody that thinks that that's a good idea. need to get our police idea. we need to get our police out of special measures . we need out of special measures. we need to london's roads moved to get the london's roads moved again. coming again. they're all coming to a grinding halt at the and

grinding halt at the moment and we to build more houses so we need to build more houses so that youngsters have got places we need to build more houses so that yandjsters have got places we need to build more houses so that yand placesiave got places we need to build more houses so that yand places that got places we need to build more houses so that yand places that theylaces we need to build more houses so that yand places that they cans to go and places that they can rent properly . that's what we rent properly. that's what we need and we need me as mayor, quite frankly , frankly, i think quite frankly, frankly, i think you're right. >> susanna hall, thank you very much for joining >> susanna hall, thank you very much forjoining me. it's such a pleasure the pleasure to get you in the studio actually you studio and actually hear you speak there you that's speak so there you go. that's suzanne hall. she's the potential candidate potential mayoral candidate for the she could be the conservatives she could be mayor. she unseat sadiq mayor. can she unseat sadiq khan? well, stay tuned. you'll find to out. find out. we need to find out. people her if people need to vote for her if they want to that. they want her to do that. but this news on tv, this is gb news live on tv, onune this is gb news live on tv, online on digital radio. online and on digital radio. coming joined my coming up, i'll be joined by my amazing panel broadcast from columnist and columnist lizzie cundy and former labour mp simon danczuk. but next, monologue today is but next, my monologue today is on the extraordinary letter from dame caroline dinenage of the culture, media and sport committee . but first, let's get committee. but first, let's get some weather. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's all

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evening for parts of scotland. heavy for northern ireland, heavy rain for northern ireland, northern england, two bright spells further south will lift temperatures up to around 21 celsius into monday . we see that celsius into monday. we see that weather system clear away . we're weather system clear away. we're left with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers to take us through day and then take us through the day and then it stays unsettled. tuesday and into wednesday as well . further into wednesday as well. further showers tuesday, heavy rain, strong winds likely on wednesday i >> -- >> the temperatures rising , a >> the temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather

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children has been rebailed until january. the 46 year old was arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. it happened at an end of year. tea party at the study prep school in wimbledon in july. 16 people were treated at the scene of the crash and several, including a seven month old girl, were taken to hospital with non—life threatening injuries. boris johnson has warned rishi sunak against delivering a mutilated version of hs2. the former prime minister says curtailing over costs were the height of insanity and a desperate treasury driven nonsense. he's urged the prime minister to deliver on the tories 2019 levelling up pledge . the levelling up pledge. the government has refused to deny reports claiming the birmingham to manchester route will be scrapped . david cameron has also scrapped. david cameron has also raised concerns, according to reports in the times, which claims the planned line to the east midlands parkway could also be under threat . shadow cabinet

be under threat. shadow cabinet minister anneliese dodds says the country needs clarity . the country needs clarity. >> this was a major plank of the government's claims around levelling up. there has been speculation, in fact over the last 13 years, including just the last few days around these projects, that's not the way to be delivering that kind of infrastructure . and labour would infrastructure. and labour would have a very different approach. we would make sure not only that we up infrastructure we sped up infrastructure projects, but that we then didn't have this kind of speculation and instability because it's causing huge , huge because it's causing huge, huge issues for our country's reputation . reputation. >> meanwhile , rishi sunak is >> meanwhile, rishi sunak is considering plans that would effectively ban cigarettes for the next generation. it would entail steadily increasing the legal age for consuming tobacco as reported in the guardian. if implemented by 2026, it would mean anyone aged 15 and under now would never be able to buy a cigarette smoking costs societies £17 billion, according

to government research, with 2.4 billion to the nhs alone . billion to the nhs alone. ministers are also understood to be drawing up plans to ban disposable vape . humans could disposable vape. humans could lose control to machines because artificial intelligence is developing too fast for regulators to keep up . the view regulators to keep up. the view of the deputy prime minister , of the deputy prime minister, who urged world leaders to recognise the threat of ai at the un general assembly in new york. oliver dowden says the government will push to create an international regulator body when the uk hosts an ai safety summit at bletchley park in november. in an effort to protect humanity's future as well. >> isn't it? >> isn't it? >> ai revolution will be a brave thing. test for the multilateral system to show that it can work together on a question that will define the fate of humanity , our define the fate of humanity, our future. humanity vs future. our entire planet's future depends on our ability to do so . that is

on our ability to do so. that is our challenge and this is our opportunity to be truly be the united nations . united nations. >> now, hundreds of activists have been marching to whitehall in london today, calling on the government to u—turn on brexit and return to the bloc clusters of metropolitan police officers monitored the demonstration as protesters and blue and yellow handed out flyers. the uk voted to leave the european union in a referendum in june 2016, called by then prime minister david cameron. peter coe , leader and cameron. peter coe, leader and co—founder of the national rejoin march, says he organised the march because it felt like everyone had given up on the cause. >> over half the speakers are under 35 years old and we've we had a bit of trouble getting people from universities here like we're trying because it's freshers week so they all doing

different as different university events as we can but everywhere we go universities , eurovision, young universities, eurovision, young people all flock to us, take flags, take the flyers are very enthusiastic , as if you stick enthusiastic, as if you stick around for the speeches . around for the speeches. >> you'll hear from young speakers on stage . russell brand speakers on stage. russell brand has attacked the media in a new onune has attacked the media in a new online post after what he says has been an extraordinary and distressing week. >> he lashed out at the government. big tech companies and media organisations suggesting moves to demonetise his social media content comes in the context of the online safety bill, which mr brand claims has been passed into law. he also made remarks concerning free speech and collusion with the deep state before asking people to follow him on rumble. mr brand earned significant advertising revenue from the platform . he chose not to platform. he chose not to address the allegations made against him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse. he's denied all allegations of criminal . he's denied all allegations of criminal. city nearly a third of patients have suffered long term

organ damage as a result of covid 19. that is according to a new study. according to the findings, abnormalities in the lungs were almost 14 times higher in those who'd had the virus. abnormal findings involving the brain and kidneys were three and two times higher, respectively . the extent of the respectively. the extent of the damage was often influenced the severity of their infection in their age and other diseases in their age and other diseases in the body . and more than two the body. and more than two dozen giraffes in kenya have been fitted with gps tracking devices. conservative at the masai mara national reserve are hoping the data gathered will help them understand and protect dwindling populations once widespread across parts of africa . giraffe numbers have africa. giraffe numbers have declined by 50 to 80% since the mid 1990s. with migration caused by climate change. of particular concern is this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying

play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to nana. >> thank you, tatiana , you're >> thank you, tatiana, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i like to call this one ready to rumble . this one ready to rumble. baroness caroline dinenage. now she's the mp for gosport and she's the mp for gosport and she's the mp for gosport and she's the chair of the culture , she's the chair of the culture, media and sport committee. now, she was very busy this week. she wrote a number of letters to various organisations , including various organisations, including channel 4 and gb news, but apparently not all members of her committee were supportive of all of her actions and in particular, letter to free particular, this letter to free speech platform rumble to the chief executive chris pavlov , chief executive chris pavlov, regarding russell brand's presence on the platform, dame caroline wrote, whilst we recognise that rumble is not the creator of the content published by mr brand, we are concerned that he may be able to profit from his content on the platform

. we would be grateful if you could confirm whether mr brand is able to monetise his content, including his videos relating to the serious accusations against him . if so, we would like to him. if so, we would like to know whether rumble intends to join youtube in suspending mr brown's ability to earn money on the platform from , uh wire , the platform from, uh wire, caroline and her crew inquiring about removing someone's source of income based on allegations that it can't be the way we conduct ourselves. surely we i'm not saying that serious allegations should be ignored. i'm saying innocent until proven guilty. so a perpetrator of a crime should feel the full force of the law, just as someone who is innocent should be excused , is innocent should be excused, not disavowed their earning potential by an overzealous culture and media secretary who was, in my view , overstepping was, in my view, overstepping her before allegations her remit before allegations have been properly investigated by the police and before any conviction has been made. it's called due process. so you'll

probably hear this and want me taken down to a source said . we taken down to a source said. we know at least one committee member is not comfortable with the language used before. mr brand has been found guilty of any crime . um. exactly. ever any crime. um. exactly. ever crime is heinous and in particular, those of a sexual nature. and my heart goes out to victims. but the place for judgement is in the courtroom, not by the court of public opinion through the media or dame caroline . and i say this to dame caroline. and i say this to protect myself . if anyone could protect myself. if anyone could say anything about me, and according to her, if she felt it was significant, she would bypass due process and would be up for asking my boss to follow in the footsteps of youtube. in a statement, rumble ceo called the letter extremely disturbing , adding, while rumble obviously deplores sexual assault , rape deplores sexual assault, rape and all serious crimes and believes that both alleged victims and the accused are entitled to a full and serious investigation , it is vital to investigation, it is vital to note that recent allegations against russell brand have

nothing to do with the content on rumble's platform. he went on to say, we regarded as deeply inappropriate and dangerous that the uk parliament would attempt to control who is allowed to speak on our platform or to earn a living from doing so. the letter concluded that it would be easier to join the cancel culture mob, but that was a violation of rumble's value and mission and that we empathetically reject the uk parliament's demands. good on rumble in my view, criminal allegations should be put to the police first. the police should decide whether to place them in the public domain. although i personally think that accusers shouldn't be named unless found guilty. it's not down to an mp to pre—empt or pass judgement by tentatively suggesting a person be stripped of the ability to support their family prejudicing a case and making it impossible able for due process to occur . able for due process to occur. former ukip mep candidate carl benjamin went further when he said that caroline dinenage has violated one of the few clauses

of the magna carta which are still in effect that an englishman's property may not be arbitrary , seized or stripped arbitrary, seized or stripped from him without the lawful judgement of his peers , he must judgement of his peers, he must resign or be fired immediately. i'm inclined to agree with him. they dame caroline dinenage has got to go . so if you're just got to go. so if you're just joining me, welcome on board. before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming today for the great coming up today for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking it time to house asking is it time to house migrants tents now with the migrants in tents now with the cost of housing migrants in hotels hitting millions of pounds no slowdown in pounds a day and no slowdown in their it time all their arrival, is it time all migrants who arrive illegally , migrants who arrive illegally, all are housed in tents. migrants who arrive illegally, all are housed in tents . and at all are housed in tents. and at four 50th royal roundup time, angela levin will be here with the latest behind the the latest from behind the palace on the menu , a palace walls on the menu, a massive week of royal engagements as the king and queen celebrate a triumphant state visit to and prince state visit to france and prince william's tour to new york. and

then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation. struggling say it's difficult struggling to say it's difficult to with my teeth by the to say with my new teeth by the way, at them. i look like way, look at them. i look like a mouse a this week, mouse or a rat. this week, entrepreneurs mitch herbert and linda will be in the studio linda ball will be in the studio live and there are they are the innovators behind turning plastic in ocean into useful plastic in the ocean into useful medical equipment, supporting the nhs and helping clean up the nhs and helping to clean up our . that's coming up the nhs and helping to clean up our .that's coming up in our oceans. that's coming up in the as ever, tell me the next hour. as ever, tell me what you think everything what you think on everything we're email we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. i'm so annoyed because in that monologue i called dame caroline dinenage a he instead of a she. but this is a disease. it's the teeth. it's the teeth. we'll give you a close up later. but first, let's get let's welcome get started. let's welcome again to broadcaster to my panel, broadcaster and columnist to my panel, broadcaster and columrlabour mp simon danczuk. former labour mp simon danczuk. welcome you. welcome both of you. >> thank you. it's good to be here. >> well, good to see you, simon. all going start all right. i'm going to start with simon because you are with you. simon because you are you you are very familiar you know, you are very familiar

with that along on in with things that go along on in parliament. what is your view on dame caroline dinenage getting involved in this conversation in this way? yeah it's overreach on on caroline dandridge's part. >> there's no doubt about that for your viewers benefit . we for your viewers benefit. we have select committees in parliament and they based on different subjects . she chairs different subjects. she chairs the culture, media and sport select committee. when i was an mp , i sat on another select mp, i sat on another select committee, the primary role is to scrutinise the government and the legislation . the government's legislation. come up with ideas, recommend actions around policy and look at other issues broader than just the government's agenda. >> nevertheless, it's all >> but nevertheless, it's all about scrutiny and they do some really important work. about scrutiny and they do some really i|she's ant work. about scrutiny and they do some really i|she's clearlyk. about scrutiny and they do some really i|she's clearly overreached >> but she's clearly overreached herself on this. it's not for a select committee chairperson to be sending letters of this nature. and i suspect from my experience in parliament that a few members of that committee will be really challenging her about it. she should really be taking the select committee members her, and i suspect members with her, and i suspect she hasn't done by any stretch on it does a savage

>> and it does seem a bit savage , you know, sort of go , you know, to sort of go straight him straight in and want him demonetised look, straight in and want him den know,ed look, straight in and want him denknow,edsomeone's look, straight in and want him denknow,edsomeone's guiltyyk, straight in and want him den know,ed someone's guilty of you know, if someone's guilty of something, they something, fair enough, they need through due need to go through the due process. process process. and we have a process and something's and procedure. if something's reported to the police. so that's what should happen. and then and potential then russell brand and potential so—called victims, potential victims, because i don't know the full story will then have their say as well. and then a court will determine what court of law will determine what the outcome should be and as a result of that, then whatever happens would happen, but not an individual going in and removing someone's income before now it's not even got to court. and that's a danger for you and me and actually anyone . and actually anyone. >> well, innocent until >> well, it's innocent until proven . proven guilty. >> that's what it in this land. >> and should ashamed of >> and she should be ashamed of herself . for i think she herself. and for me, i think she needs go , because this needs to go, because this is a slippery slope . we've seen slippery slope. we've seen what's happened to other stars. you know , celebrities in the you know, celebrities in the limelight that have been absolutely crucified by the media and by social media before even having a fair trial. look what happened to kevin spacey.

look what happened to my friend cliff richard. i mean, he had the bbc helicopters going over , the bbc helicopters going over, you know, his house without even a fair trial. and how is now i mean, it is disturbing , saying mean, it is disturbing, saying the allegations are shocking . the allegations are shocking. but how is russell brand able to now have really a fair trial? and that's what everyone all the victims as well want is a full and serious investigation . how and serious investigation. how is he going to get this ? that's is he going to get this? that's the question. and dame caroline, she should be ashamed of herself for what she's doing. >> yeah , i agree. and just try >> yeah, i agree. and just try and understand dame caroline . and understand dame caroline. she's been a minister in this department and she's acting like she's a government minister now, but she isn't. she's chair of a select committee that's there to scrutinise laws and she's overstepped really overstepped the mark. really i think it's inevitable. i think there'll be pressure her to there'll be pressure on her to go. you're absolutely go. i think you're absolutely right. uncomfortable right. i'm very uncomfortable with people, organisations putting undue pressure on on on someone who's facing allegations. but for them to

lose their livelihood before anything's gone to court, before anything's gone to court, before anything is been proven and we can suspect why channel 4 and the times newspaper didn't think who broke this story. it didn't encourage the alleged victims to go to the police. it's because they knew that it would be harder for them to report on it if the alleged victims had gone to the police. >> so we don't know why they did that. but i know. but but but the point of this is, is that in my view, i think that actually, if want to remain if people want to remain anonymous, i think that anonymous, i don't think that there be allowed to go to there should be allowed to go to there should be allowed to go to the do that. i think the media and do that. i think it's important these things it's important that these things are correctly. are invested, dated correctly. and especially in and i think that especially in cases sexual assault, that cases of sexual assault, that they to to the police , they need to go to the police, go to the police. that's where it otherwise it comes it should be. otherwise it comes out into the court of public opinion. and then i cannot see how one will get a fair how anyone one will get a fair trial out of this. >> i'm an ambassador for a domestic women's domestic abuse charity , and i know it's very, charity, and i know it's very, very difficult for some to go to the especially if the

the police, especially if the person in question is powerful and a celebrity. >> but to go via, you know, the press , a documentary isn't the press, a documentary isn't the right way to do it. and it isn't fair on anyone . fair on anyone. >> i don't think so either. and i would go far say i would almost go as far to say that do then that if you do that, then i don't can have the don't see how you can have the right be anonymous. i right to be anonymous. i understand that you the understand that if you go to the police, have understand that if you go to the poli(right have understand that if you go to the poli(right . have understand that if you go to the poli(right . but have understand that if you go to the poli(right . but i have understand that if you go to the poli(right . but i think have understand that if you go to the poli(right . but i think ifave understand that if you go to the poli(right . but i think if you that right. but i think if you if you're going put somebody if you're going to put somebody out in the public domain and out them i is them with something i think is important, police, them with something i think is imponwhere police, them with something i think is imponwhere this police, them with something i think is imponwhere this should)olice, them with something i think is imponwhere this should be ce, them with something i think is imporplace. this should be ce, them with something i think is imporplace. the should be ce, them with something i think is imporplace. the judgement :e, them with something i think is imporplachappeningiement:e, them with something i think is imporplachappeningiementthe should be happening using the due set due process that we set in place, we in this place, as we have in this country. just joined country. but if you just joined us, up to us, welcome aboard. coming up to 18 minutes after 4:00. this is gb online on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, this week's difficult conversation . i'll chatting this week's difficult co two sation . i'll chatting this week's difficult co two brilliant'll chatting this week's difficult co two brilliant innovators ing this week's difficult co two brilliant innovators who to two brilliant innovators who are turning plastic in the ocean into useful medicinal equipment supporting the nhs and helping to clean up our oceans . to clean up our oceans. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

weather on. gb news. >> hello there, i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's all change again through tonight and into sunday. more rain moving in. the winds increasing through the day , but temperatures rising the day, but temperatures rising as well. and it's all thanks to this area of low pressure which will fronts will sweep in weather fronts through the course of the rest of the weekend into the beginning of next week the beginning of next week to the tight those tight isobars indicating those strong winds. so we do have some dry weather for this dry weather for a time this evening, particularly across central and eastern areas. but the west pushing in the rain in the west pushing in as move into the early hours. as we move into the early hours. the rain turning heavy at times , typically across hills, , typically across the hills, across into parts of across scotland into parts of northern and wales to northern england and wales to temperatures higher than recent nights, generally staying in double figures as that mild air moves in and the winds start to pick up, too. so it means a bit of a cloudy start to sunday morning. of rain morning. outbreaks of rain across northern england, wales, southwest some southwest england to some glimmers sunshine for east glimmers of sunshine for east england. northern parts of scotland for a time, too. and then rain generally then this rain generally moves northwards through the day, turning particularly heavy over the ground. the office

the high ground. the met office warning in force for the afternoon for afternoon into the evening for parts heavy rain parts of scotland. heavy rain for northern ireland, northern england, two bright spells further south will lift temperatures up to around 21 celsius into monday . we see that celsius into monday. we see that weather system clear away . we're weather system clear away. we're left with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers to take us through the day and then it stays unsettled. tuesday and into wednesday as well . further into wednesday as well. further showers tuesday, heavy rain, strong winds likely on wednesday . that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> coming up, royal roundup time with angela levin . she'll be with angela levin. she'll be giving us the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu, a massive week of royal engagements as the king and queen celebrate a triumphant state visit to france and prince william's tour new but william's tour to new york. but up next, it's time for the great british debate. this and british debate. this hour. and i'm time to house i'm asking, is it time to house migrants tents, figures migrants in tents, figures released by the home office this

week revealed that the cost week have revealed that the cost of migrants hotels of housing migrants in hotels has increased to £8 million a day march. so got to day since march. so i've got to pull up now on asking you pull up right now on asking you that very question. is it time to migrants send to house migrants in tents? send me thoughts. email gb views me your thoughts. email gb views gb com or tweet me at gb news dot com or tweet me at gb news dot com or tweet me at gb news. cast your vote. now that's on the

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processed. although that probably wouldn't work here because they wouldn't pay it because they wouldn't pay it because they're in three star hotels. contrast, one afghani hotels. in contrast, one afghani migrant interview migrant said in an interview that he felt like a king after being housed in a four star hotel wigan alongside 100 hotel near wigan alongside 100 other migrants who entered the uk illegally on a small boat. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time to house migrants in tents? remember braverman did remember suella braverman did by, was 2000 of them remember suella braverman did by, to was 2000 of them remember suella braverman did by, to discuss2000 of them remember suella braverman did by, to discuss this, of them remember suella braverman did by, to discuss this, i'mthem debate to discuss this, i'm joined by ivan sampson is an immigration lawyer. suzanne evans, commentator , evans, political commentator, and lois perry and lois perry, political commentator . well, i'm political commentator. well, i'm going to start with suzanne evans because, you know, suzanne suella braverman in july brought , i think it was 2000 tents and other countries, for example, france, they're housed in big marquees. why can't we do that here? >> yeah, absolutely . chicago is >> yeah, absolutely. chicago is doing it as well. they've spent 29 million. >> that's only a few days of the cost of housing migrants here in hotels. they're talking about building six tent cities in chicago, housing between 250 and

1400 migrants. will it work here? well, i think to be honest , i don't see why we shouldn't do it. >> but the problem is it won't stop the pull factor. it won't stop the pull factor. it won't stop these people coming. and that's the ultimate solution that's the ultimate solution that find is that we've got to find is stopping the boats. and at the moment the government moment, the government is failing on that. failing abysmally on that. >> you don't think you'll stop the factor they the pull factor if they think that be housed that they're going to be housed in if you in a tent? it's only if you don't think it will. >> it because don't think >> it will because i don't think it's happen anyway. it's going to happen anyway. you know, from it's going to happen anyway. you kno home from it's going to happen anyway. you kno home office from it's going to happen anyway. you kno home office saying from it's going to happen anyway. you kno home office saying they've the home office saying they've got star got to be housed in three star hotels . if they're watching the hotels. if they're watching the news, they are. then hotels. if they're watching the newsknow they are. then hotels. if they're watching the newsknow actually, are. then hotels. if they're watching the newsknow actually, it's. then they know actually, it's probably not going to happen because, country because, frankly, this country hasn't i don't hasn't got the will. i don't think , or at the people in think, or at least the people in government have will government don't have the will to make pay. to make them pay. >> many like >> it's too many lawyers like ivan sampson . he's an ivan sampson. he's an immigration ivan, what's immigration lawyer. ivan, what's your thoughts on this then? i mean, time we need we mean, is it time we need we think the strategy, what would be bad about housing them in be so bad about housing them in marquees instead of what we currently have ? currently have? >> well, the legal obligation under section 95 of the immigration and nationality act

is to provide safe and secure accommodation to asylum seekers while they their asylum claims are being processed. >> so they so that they're not destitute. now asylum seekers don't really have a choice of where they're accommodated , where they're accommodated, neither in terms of the quality or the location. that's down to the government. they can't really refuse it. but i agree with your commentator that the problem is the pull factor , problem is the pull factor, because if the when the somebody gets here, whether their asylum claim is they're granted asylum or not, they're not removed , or not, they're not removed, that that is the problem. so if you if you've had your asylum claim refused, you're still going to be allowed to remain here. and that's the pull factor. look, genuine asylum seekers should be allowed to come uk , have their come to the uk, have their asylum processed and be asylum claims processed and be accommodated for a few weeks in temporary accommodation, then move permanent long term move into permanent long term accommodation once their asylum claim is processed and be allowed to work so they can fend

for themselves. >> it's the dis genuine asylum seekers as they're coming here, knowing full well that they're not going to be removed and the estimates are between . three estimates are between. three quarters of a million and a million people already in the country who are here legally . country who are here legally. >> that's not counting the asylum seekers that are already here. none of them are being removed. so this is a problem the home office has to tackle and have agreements with the eu to remove people and other countries to where they came from. >> well, what about georgie maloney's plan? she is she is basically charging them ,5,000. that's a good idea , surely, that's a good idea, surely, ivan, is that is that a good idea ? idea? >> well , if you've got the >> well, if you've got the money, great. >> but what if someone hasn't got the money to pay ? got the money to pay? >> then what happens if you're fleeing, persecute russian and you're fleeing fear for your life and safety ? i don't think life and safety? i don't think that's going to stop anyone coming here because of a £5,000

surcharge. you don't think ? surcharge. you don't think? >> well, at least they'd pay, but at least . but at least but at least. but at least they'd be paying for it. i want to ask lois. lois? i mean, they'd paying we get they'd be paying for it. we get five grand out them at least. five grand out of them at least. i prepared to pay i mean, they're prepared to pay the get five i mean, they're prepared to pay the out get five i mean, they're prepared to pay the out of get five i mean, they're prepared to pay the out of them, get fivethey grand out of them, and then they can. lois can. yeah. lois >> yeah, well, absolutely . >> yeah, well, absolutely. >> yeah, well, absolutely. >> i mean, number one, i don't think that hardly any of these young single men are actually fleeing persecution of any kind whatsoever. but also , if we whatsoever. but also, if we actually start putting them in tents and stuff, don't we make ourselves make the uk look like a big refugee camp? you know? but we must remember this is a global problem at the moment. everyone is move. there everyone is on the move. there is an exodus all the is an exodus from all the countries going into europe, but also states at the also i'm in the states at the moment to talking senators and stuff about climate change policy in the uk and the us and they've had 6 million immigrants coming this year. so, you know , coming this year. so, you know, the world is on the move . the world is on the move. fortunately, quite a lot of them

seem to be moving across our channel. you can't have open borders and benefit system. you have to either have one or the other. you can't have both . but other. you can't have both. but charging them, they've already they've already spent the money on the traffickers , haven't on the traffickers, haven't they? they haven't got any money left. i should imagine. >> i it just seems like >> i mean it just seems like such mess. suzanne that we such a mess. suzanne that we even we do come up with even when we do come up with something, there's a whole legal system stops doing system that stops us from doing anything. you talked about stopping the boats. do you think keir starmer has got the right idea when he's talking about a global police force, he's talking agreement talking about a global agreement type you think that's. >> yeah, i mean, there has got to be some kind of global response . response. >> sorry. because a sense , in >> sorry. because in a sense, in a sense, could could just a sense, this could could just about be seen as some kind of good news story . the fact is now good news story. the fact is now we have developing countries that are becoming much more middle , and that's why middle class, and that's why these people afford to pay these people can afford to pay people traffickers actually people traffickers to actually leave their country. whereas, of course , previously just course, previously that's just not option that's been not been an option that's been open people. a sense, open to people. so in a sense,

this the world this is a success of the world actually changing in a very positive way because people overall are becoming wealthier. the problem i think with starmer's view is that there isn't the global will there at the moment. people want the moment. people seem to want to push the problem to on some other meloni's other country. giorgia meloni's plan, it's all very well, but why should they pay £5,000 and then freedom ? we then have their freedom? we don't know where those people are know from don't know where those people are experience know from don't know where those people are experience that know from don't know where those people are experience that some from don't know where those people are experience that some ofym past experience that some of them are criminals or they might have criminal records. they certainly criminals certainly behave like criminals when get here and again, when they get here and again, it's just about stopping the boats and stopping the pull factor . and until that's factor. and until that's addressed, your point , your addressed, your point, your point nana think about the legal s of this is quite interesting. whenever the government says, oh, it's the lawyers, it's the legal system, it's bali, blah de blah, what i here is we're not strong enough or tough enough to govern solve that problem. govern and solve that problem. i think a bit cop out. think it's a bit cop out. >> well, yeah , well, we'll see >> well, yeah, well, we'll see what happens. anyway well, thank you much for your thoughts. you so much for your thoughts. suzanne political you so much for your thoughts. suzanne ivan litical you so much for your thoughts. suzanne ivan sampson, commentator ivan sampson, immigration lawyer lois

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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> it's fast approaching. 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua . it's channel. i'm nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate. hour. i'm debate. this hour. and i'm asking, time to house asking, is it time to house migrants now, the cost migrants in tents now, the cost of migrants in hotels of housing migrants in hotels has from 7 million to 8. has risen from 7 million to 8. and this is despite the government's reducing the use of hotels . whilst asylum seekers hotels. whilst asylum seekers have processed . and have their claims processed. and in meantime, italy has in the meantime, italy has announced wave tough announced a wave of tough new measures deter migrants after measures to deter migrants after more than 10,000 did arrive on the italian island of lampedusa this week with just 6000 population. now the measures introduced by giorgia melonis government include increasing the amount of time people can be

detained to 18 months from three, making the migrants pay ,5,000 to avoid detention, three, making the migrants pay ,5,000 to avcis detention, three, making the migrants pay ,5,000 to avcis beingtion, whilst their claim is being processed. that's in contrast to one afghani migrant who said that he felt like a king after being housed at a four star hotel wickham alongside 100 hotel near wickham alongside 100 others. they all entered the uk illegally in a small boat. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time to migrants in tents? to house migrants in tents? let's see what my panel make of that. broadcaster that. i'm joined by broadcaster on columnist cundy and on columnist lizzie cundy and also labour mp simon also former labour mp simon danczuk. cundy, straight danczuk. lizzie cundy, straight to you. >> the tents . this idea is >> oh, the tents. this idea is going collapse like like going to collapse like like a really cheap tent. i mean, it's not to going work. nana. i mean, everything braverman puts forward, it's it collapses. they're nothing but gimmicks. look at what we've had. rwanda for 140 million. the barges and no one even got on there and still floating about with no one on. they're just disastrous gimmicks and they're not being thought about applying . right. thought about applying. right.

and what really rishi has to do is leave the echr . we have to is leave the echr. we have to get rid of all these european judges that are making decisions or else we can't get any policy through. but you know what? he hasn't got the political will. he hasn't got the backbone . he's he hasn't got the backbone. he's nothing more than a jellyfish in tight really tight trousers. i'm really sorry, but rishi is can't put anything through. i mean, look at what's going on. i mean, did you know and put into context, 11 billion is costing the accommodation for migrants and thatis accommodation for migrants and that is 20% of our defence budget. yeah, but do you realise the amount of money that is being wasted? yeah, but we try living in tents. >> we tried leaving it to our own people to make decisions and look what happened to them . i look what happened to them. i mean they don't seem to be making properly at making any decisions properly at all. had brexit and all. i mean we've had brexit and what have they done? >> well, agree that >> simon well, i agree that something done. i'm something has to be done. i'm an ex labour member parliament ex labour member of parliament and i'm a traditional labour person, tough on illegal immigrants, tough on benefits , immigrants, tough on benefits, cheats. and the government asked

to get a grip of this whichever colour the party is in power. and i agree, use tents . don't and i agree, use tents. don't use the rwanda strategy. i agree with that. i agree with your point. come out to the european court on human rights. stop turning the boats back. the pubuc turning the boats back. the public are absolutely up to here with illegal immigrant action. and i agree with you , sunak is and i agree with you, sunak is not taking enough action. you've got well, it's got to be a rounded policy. rwanda is in the supreme court now, and it's part of the solution. if you process somebody at the moment who is an illegal immigrant, but they've thrown passport, where thrown away the passport, where do you send them to? if do you send them to? well, if we've we we've got rwanda in place, we send them to rwanda. but currently where do you send them to? and then we end up with more people. illegal immigrants who should be away. they're people. illegal immigrants who sho being away. they're people. illegal immigrants who sho being deported. y. they're people. illegal immigrants who sho being deported. y. ti need not being deported. so you need something like rwanda. but it's got solution . ian got to be a whole solution. ian and you right, though. the and you are right, though. the government are just not putting all solution together. they all this solution together. they have be much more robust on this. >> what about keir starmers plan then a of

then he would have a sort of global type thing global police force type thing and was coming and that's what he was coming out negotiating. >> starmer, >> i'm sorry, keir starmer, what's the difference between him and angela merkel absolutely nothing. starmer my new nothing. keir starmer my new name actually is ikea name for him actually is ikea starmer because he's got all the pieces on the floor, but he doesn't know what to do with them. and if you read the instructions, he can't instructions, he still can't work is work it out. the man is delusional and he's got what he's trying to make a different relationship with the eu is it's just a delusional political lie, i'm afraid to say. >> it's a good analogy, actually. the ikea analogy is a good one, and i was puzzled. i mean, i don't think he's his solution for immigration stacks up at all. actually, what i do like about it that he's like about it is that he's proposing 1000 extra civil servants to process the backlog for civil service. but we've got to get rid of the backlog is a, you know how expensive they are. >> they're the most expensive thing. the government spend their money on. but we'll be talking them the while. >> but need while. » but while. >> but get rid of >> but we do need to get rid of the just just the backlog without just just accepting people because, you

know , some some just know, some some would just have an borders policy. so an open borders policy. so we certainly don't want that. i'm completely as to why he completely puzzled as to why he was looking to europe , because was looking to europe, because he win the general he needs to win the general election. he needs to win red wall voters now. they're old brexit ears. and he's started talking about europe. so from a political perspective of is called it completely wrong . called it completely wrong. >> but we knew he hated brexit. he's trying to cosy up with the eu. he thinks stupid, eu. he thinks we're stupid, he thinks foolish . thinks we're foolish. >> sees macron. >> he goes and sees macron. i mean, electorally, what he's been doing in the last two weeks is electorally stupid . is electorally stupid. >> why didn't he ask the french, what's actually happened to our money to the french what's actually happened to our mon million? to the french what's actually happened to our mon million? what to the french what's actually happened to our mon million? what are the french what's actually happened to our mon million? what are they 'ench 500 million? what are they actually doing didn't actually doing and why didn't king charles ask them instead of going on about? king charles ask them instead of goiihe)n about? king charles ask them instead of goiihe)n ab0|argue there's >> he would argue that there's a lot people and as even as lot of people and as even as you've seen rejoin people lot of people and as even as you've sewill rejoin people lot of people and as even as you've sewill not ejoin people lot of people and as even as you've sewill not ejoi brexityle lot of people and as even as you've sewill not ejoi brexit go, who just will not let brexit go, there people who there are a lot of people who actually rejoin the actually do want to rejoin the eu he's hedging his eu and perhaps he's hedging his bets will be bets so those people will be prepared to back him. and if the statistics are correct, which i don't but if don't think they are, but if they are, then he's him taking that side might be a good plan .

that side might be a good plan. >> well, but that's i wrote about this in business leader magazine he's got magazine this week. he's got those in the bag those voters already in the bag . he's already got them. remainers in the bag. it's the red wall votes he needs . and red wall votes he needs. and cosying up to europe's been a big mistake. >> trying to rewrite it, >> he's trying to rewrite it, isn't but he sits on isn't he? okay. but he sits on the fence so much he gets splinters only wearing splinters and he's only wearing flip flops. >> so it must hurt, right? but this show nothing without this show is nothing without you. your views. let's you. and your views. let's welcome british voice welcome our great british voice his to be this his opportunity to be on this show he thinks show and tell us what he thinks about we're about the topics we're discussing. this hour. let's head have head over to bristol. let's have a regular great a chat with our regular great british voice, lee harris. lee tents. surely that would be another form of deterrent , surely? >> yeah , absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> that's one of the points i was going to make. >> you know, i think everyone agrees is that while we're having to deal with this crisis, we need to, you know, we should provide safe and clean accommodation. >> it should be basic. the >> but it should be basic. the hotels we're using are well above the level of taxpayers would expect to be paying for . would expect to be paying for. and tents are just another sticking solution that

sticking plaster solution that won't solve the problem, won't really solve the problem, but could be a deterrent. you but it could be a deterrent. you know , simply not acceptable for know, simply not acceptable for people who are breaking the law , paying people who are breaking the law , paying thousands of pounds to criminal gangs, to illegally enter the uk, to then be put up in a hotel and receive benefits. the british people are genuinely very warm and welcoming, but we have a strong sense of fairness and that's we know it's costing. you've already said it's costing 8 million day now to put 8 million a day now to put people in hotels and this is a huge pull factor. it's people in hotels and this is a huge pull factor . it's literally huge pull factor. it's literally making the situation worse. >> we have i couldn't believe it. >> we have illegal immigrants filming themselves , crossing the filming themselves, crossing the channel filming themselves, crossing the channel, arriving in a nice hotel, you know, uploading it to tiktok and it's just it's i've never seen anything like it. you know, i was really pleased, actually, that the illegal actually, nana that the illegal immigration act was passed recently, which prevents recently, which now prevents anyone who arrives here illegally from ever being allowed to enter, stay or settle. here in the uk . that's settle. here in the uk. that's great, but only a few provisions of the legal migration act come

into force and it's utterly useless if we don't deport anyone , then you know, i'm going anyone, then you know, i'm going to say something now. i honestly believe that the government needs to declare a national emergency, bring in the royal navy, and as a temporary measure to stop the boats, just to give us time to breathe and catch up . and they should have done this a long time ago. that is our legal right . a long time ago. that is our legal right. i've been listening to a lot of ben habib, who's excellent on this subject, and but, you know, just their presence in the channel just their the royal navy in their having the royal navy in the channel with all the press coverage come coverage that that will come with know will be with that and you know will be a deterrent on its own. it might give us time to up and give us time to catch up and then we on clearing then we can focus on clearing then we can focus on clearing the backlog. but it's an impossible situation. >> i think well, get >> nana well, i think well, get together think part together and i think part of keir plan work, together and i think part of keirthe plan work, together and i think part of keirthe rest plan work, together and i think part of keirthe rest ofplan work, together and i think part of keirthe rest of itan work, together and i think part of keirthe rest of it needs work, together and i think part of keirthe rest of it needs w> lisa harris, as ever, thank you for me. you so much forjoining me. lovely that is lovely to speak to you. that is lee harris. he's a great british voice. on tv voice. this is gb news on tv onune online and on digital radio. coming in the next hour, my coming up in the next hour, my great debate this hour. great british debate this hour. and asking, time a

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gb news this is gb news. >> we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. and there's always something going on in the royal week royal household. and this week is no different. anti—monarchy campaigners have staged a protest inside buckingham palace this afternoon. of the this afternoon. members of the pubuc this afternoon. members of the public staged the protest inside the grand hall and they unveiled the grand hall and they unveiled t shirts which spelled out not my king. so every saturday, i love to give you a rundown. and who better to so angela

who better to do so than angela levin , royal biographer angela, levin, royal biographer angela, currently breathtaking , isn't it? >> i mean, i wondered how they could have got on in and they said, well, it's open people to have a look around. but i don't think that's that's good enough. i think they really need proper security there. you don't actually know who's in there. you don't know if somebody could hide. i mean, it is just absolutely shocking . and how absolutely shocking. and how dare they go and stand in someone else's home or business area and actually say that? i mean, it's absolutely disgusting. >> if you watch on tv, they are there . each of them has a letter there. each of them has a letter on the t shirt, so they have to stand in order. yeah, you can check out check it out on the app check out check it out on the app as well. not liking it. >> yes. i mean, it's just hideous . and think it's hideous. and i think it's particularly nasty, but it won't work because he and the queen have come back from the most very successful paris trip where you can feel upbeat and then you come back and there's something like this and it's appalling. it

doesn't matter if they don't like the monarchy, but they don't actually go inside . but i don't actually go inside. but i think they've got to have much more protection there because they could garden. >> that was a bit worrying . now, >> that was a bit worrying. now, on a positive note, because they're still doing it. so if we do get shots, we but do get some shots, we will. but king, queen, they king, the king and queen, they had state visit to france. yes had a state visit to france. yes >> worked extremely well . >> it worked extremely well. extremely well. and i think that they've had a rest and they've really come to show that they actually do want to be close to france. what made me laugh, actually, is that the king is five foot ten and macron . five foot ten and macron. president macron is five foot seven. but if you look at them standing together, macron is slightly taller than the king. so you ask yourself if has he got something inside cuban heels on his shoes cooler? i mean, it's really funny. every picture he looks just that little bit taller. but that doesn't matter if he feels he wants to be a bit

taller, then the british king. let him have it. what i thought was lovely was that they so much enjoyed themselves, didn't they? they had love. camilla was giggling a lot and actually she hated pink, various designers had put her off well, tried to make her wear it. and she didn't want to because she didn't think charles would like it. but then she did, and she's now worn it since. and i thought to come along wearing that sort very along wearing that sort of very bright pink, just like the movie is at the moment, have you seen bobby? no, i haven't. it doesn't interest me. >> we should go together . >> we should go together. >> we should go together. >> we should and watch. really? >> yeah. let's go. it's great. >> yeah. let's go. it's great. >> pink. >> yeah. let's go. it's great. >> yeah, pink. >> yeah. let's go. it's great. >> yeah, pinigo in pink. >> yeah, we'll go in pink. pretty pink. about pretty in pink. now what about harry? was snubbed , harry? now, harry was snubbed, wasn't typical. wasn't he? again? typical. >> , he. i had to ask the >> yes, he. i had to ask the king if he could use one of the royal homes within windsor and. and most of these people, the aides were up in scotland. and

so they weren't going to sort of open places for them. but king charles said, well, why doesn't he come up and celebrate, celebrate the year after the queen? the thinking about it and do that. and he said, no, he didn't have time because he had this charity in the evening and he was going off to germany for the invictus games. i thought , he was going off to germany for the invictus games. i thought, i can't imagine anything more rude than doing. >> the king has put out an olive branch pretty much. >> he put out loads of orange branches. he should stop really . what actually appalling . but what is actually appalling is that it's obvious that is that it's quite obvious that harry would never compromise size even the smallest amount , size even the smallest amount, and say, well, if i just managed to manoeuvre a few things and i can go up and just be with you all for 2 or 3 hours and we can say how wonderful my grandmother was, and that would be a great thing to do. but he's just so stubborn and ridiculous and he can't expect to have it his way because a charles is his father

and b, he's a king. so you have to show a bit of respect. and he won't. so how he ever feels that he can get back in when a lot of people say he wants to because he's lonely and he doesn't know which direction to go in, it's ridiculous . ridiculous. >> well, let's hope his kids don't do the same to him because what goes around comes around don't do the same to him because wha it's es around comes around don't do the same to him because wha it's not round comes around don't do the same to him because wha it's not nice.i comes around don't do the same to him because wha it's not nice. yes.1es around don't do the same to him because wha it's not nice. yes. yourround and it's not nice. yes. you know, he's a father. last know, he's a father. so the last thing your kids not thing you want is your kids not to you. and to ignore to speak to you. and to ignore you, especially . but what about you, especially. but what about jan? moi. jan? we're moi. >> well she wrote in the >> yes. well she wrote in the mail that now the queen is no longer with us, that she can't see any reason that there's a royal family and i'm very sad about that. i think i admire her tremendously for her writing. but what she did as a reason was to go through charles, camilla and the and william and catherine and criticise one thing that they've done and that if you add that up, that doesn't make a reason to no longer have a monarchy for me. you think, well, would you like the labour

leader be in charge of this leader to be in charge of this country or the tory leader or somebody extremely rich who runs a big companies ? would you like a big companies? would you like any of them? no, you wouldn't. you want stability of the you want the stability of the royal family, which the queen elizabeth gave her. her father gave us king charles gives us. we've got a stability and we've also got it's almost like a bit of a family that you care about. people from the time they're born all the way and you born all the way through and you cry for them when they when they pass away. to say that, pass away. and to say that, okay, you know, the queen is dead, let's get rid . dead, let's get rid. >> do you get the sense that sometimes charles sort of kind of wants to get over this bit and it down to william and just hand it down to william so can enjoy life so he can just enjoy his life with camilla? sort of get that with camilla? i sort of get that sense sometimes. >> there's >> i don't think there's that sense. think to do sense. i think he wants to do the can for the public the best he can for the public here and in the commonwealth while he's been waiting so long, i think he wants william to be with him to and move forward with him to and move forward with him. and of course, like

climate change and other things, they really agree. but i don't think he wants to get out of it yet. he's only just done it for a year. i think he wants to make a year. i think he wants to make a bit more of a mark. >> do you think i'll just get the that he's thinking , the sense that he's thinking, oh, i just to spend my time oh, i just want to spend my time with lovely camilla? with my lovely camilla? >> think does to >> well, i think he does want to do but camilla with do that. but camilla goes with him, have him, you know, and they have giggles laugh they him, you know, and they have gigglelike laugh they him, you know, and they have gigglelike it laugh they him, you know, and they have gigglelike it with laugh they him, you know, and they have gigglelike it with each they him, you know, and they have gigglelike it with each other. hey really like it with each other. when they were tasting wine in versailles, know, she's her versailles, you know, she's her father was, you know , worked father was, you know, worked with the wine and she learnt a lot from him. and they talk about it and they discuss it. so they actually enjoy it. they enjoy what they're doing. it's not something that they don't want let's hope so want to do. well, let's hope so because i think they're fabulous i >> -- >> they're good for our country. angela thank very angela levin, thank you very much. pleasure . much. thank you. a pleasure. that course, royal that is, of course, royal biographer angela levin. this is a gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. remember, touch remember, you can get in touch gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. still loads at gb news. there's still loads more to in the next hour .

more to come in the next hour. oh, this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines coming up headlines right now. coming up in moments time. in a few moments time. entrepreneur mitch herber and linda will be joining me linda ball will be joining me live in the studio . and then on live in the studio. and then on the great british the way, the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, time to cull asking, is it time to cull the civil but first, let's civil service but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . nana thank with tatiana sanchez. nana thank you very much and good afternoon i >> -- >> this is emma >> this is the latest from the newsroom . a woman arrested after newsroom. a woman arrested after a land rover crashed into a prep school in south london, killing two children has been rebailed until january. the 46 year old was arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving . it happened dangerous driving. it happened at an end of year tea party at

the study prep school in wimbledon in july. 16 people were treated at the scene of the crash and several, including a seven month old girl, were taken to hospital with non—life threatening injuries. boris johnson has warned rishi sunak against delivering a mutilated version of hs2 , the former prime version of hs2, the former prime minister says could tailing over costs were the height of insanity and desperate treasury dnven insanity and desperate treasury driven nonsense , as he's urged driven nonsense, as he's urged the prime minister to deliver on the prime minister to deliver on the tories 2019 levelling up pledge . the government has pledge. the government has refused to deny reports claiming the birmingham to manchester route will be scrapped . david route will be scrapped. david cameron has also raised concerns , according to reports in the times, which claims the planned line to east midlands parkway could also be under threat. shadow cabinet minister anneliese dodds says the country needs clarity . needs clarity. >> this was a major plank of the government's claims around levelling up. there has been

speculation in fact over the last 13 years, including just the last few days around these projects. that's not the way to be delivering that kind of infrastructure , and labour would infrastructure, and labour would have a very different approach. we would make sure not only that we sped up infrastructure projects, but that we then didn't have this kind of speculation and instability because it's causing huge, huge issues for our country's reputation . reputation. >> meanwhile , rishi sunak is >> meanwhile, rishi sunak is considering plans that would effectively ban cigarettes for the next generation. it would entail steadily increasing the legal age for consuming tobacco as reported in the guardian . if as reported in the guardian. if implemented by 2026, it would mean anyone aged 15 and under now would never be able to buy a cigarette . but smoking costs cigarette. but smoking costs society £17 billion, according to government research, with 2.4 billion to the nhs alone . billion to the nhs alone. ministers are also understood to be drawing up plans to ban disposable vapes humans could

lose control to machines because artificial intelligence is developing too fast for regulators to keep up. that's the view of the deputy prime minister who urged world leaders to recognise the threat of ai at the un general assembly in new york. oliver dowden says the government will push to create an international regulatory body when the uk hosts an ai safety summit in november. in an effort to protect humanity's future ai revolution will be a bracing test for the multilateral system to show that it can work together on a question that will define the fate of humanity. >> our future, humanity's future, our entire our planet's future. depare depends on our ability to do so . that is our ability to do so. that is our challenge . and this is our challenge. and this is our opportunity to be to truly the

united nations . united nations. >> anti—monarchy campaigners have staged a protest inside of buckingham palace . members of buckingham palace. members of the campaign group republic staged the protest inside of the grand hall . staged the protest inside of the grand hall. they unveiled t shirts which spelled out not my king. six of the activists involved were briefly detained by security before being escorted out of the front gate . escorted out of the front gate. hundred of activists marched to whitehall in london today, calling on the government to u—turn on brexit and return to the bloc blog. clusters of metropolitan police officers monitored the demonstration as protesters in blue and yellow handed out flyers as the uk voted to leave the european union in a referendum in june 2016 called by the then prime minister, david cameron. peter cook, leader and co—founder of the national rejoin march, says it felt like everyone had given up on the cause .

up on the cause. >> over half the speakers are under 35 years old and we've we had a bit of trouble getting people from universal cities here like we're trying because it's freshers week so they're all different university all doing different university events this weekend. but every where we go universities , where we go universities, eurovision, young people flock to us, take flags, take the flyers are very enthusiastic as if you stick around for your speeches. >> you'll hear from the young speakers on stage. >> finally , nearly a third >> and finally, nearly a third of patients have suffered long term organ damage as a result of covid 19. that's according to findings of a new study . it says findings of a new study. it says abnormalities in the lungs were almost 14 times higher in those who'd had the virus . abnormal who'd had the virus. abnormal findings involving the brain and kidneys with three and two times higher, respectively . the extent higher, respectively. the extent of the damage was often influenced by the severity of their infection in their age and other diseases in the body . other diseases in the body. you're with gb news across the

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our oceans. then, for the great british debate this hour , i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking it time cull the asking is it time to cull the civil new report in civil service? a new report in the telegraph has revealed that the telegraph has revealed that the cabinet secretary has been warned civil servants warned by senior civil servants of a woke takeover of whitehall. so is it time for a cull? as always , you can get in touch. always, you can get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. but first, a vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. but first, a little at. gb news. but first, a little story that caught my eye today. reports say that prime minister rishi sunak has considering banning the next generation from smoking, which could be one of the world's toughest anti smoking measures. so let's see what my panel will make of that. i'm going to start with with you, lizzie cundy. >> i'm have odd >> yes, i'm i do have the odd cigarette. i'll be honest, after a few drinks, which terrible, terrible . it's a terrible filth terrible. it's a terrible filth habit, which i don't agree with. there are worse habits. there are. there possibly could be, but. yeah, but i mean, you know, and they put some massive strain

on the nhs , you know, with lung on the nhs, you know, with lung disease and so many other things. but i don't believe in a nanny state. i think we should be responsible for ourselves. i don't up rishi don't think it's up for rishi to say do's and don'ts. i'm say the do's and don'ts. i'm afraid, though i totally dislike smoking and i regret having that cigarette . but usually you do cigarette. but usually you do start from young and many people i know, like my friend bruno tonioli, without tonioli, is never without a cigarette. so but they start from a very young age and it's very, very difficult to up. very, very difficult to give up. >> ever properly smoke? >> did you ever properly smoke? >> did you ever properly smoke? >> kind of was one of >> well, i kind of was one of those smokers . it's my those social smokers. it's my way get friends with simon way to get friends with simon cal because he was always outside . no, be outside smoking. but no, to be honest , look, it outside smoking. but no, to be honest, look, it is a it's a terrible habit . and as i said, terrible habit. and as i said, it causes many diseases. but i don't think this is the right way go about it. i really way to go about it. i really don't. and think we have to be don't. and i think we have to be responsible for do , like responsible for what we do, like with jumping and other things and filthy. and what we eat filthy. >> happy him to >> i'm quite happy for him to ban >> i'm quite happy for him to barsimon well, you're a smoker, >> simon well, you're a smoker, a social smoker. >> i'm an ex—smoker. i wish i could smoke socially, but i can't. as soon as i have a

cigarette, i'm starting again and i'm smoking properly. so i cannot have a cigarette . but but cannot have a cigarette. but but i'm with you on this. i don't think it should be banned outright. i think people should have right smoke if they have the right to smoke if they want to smoke is a you know, treated badly enough as it is already. i mean, it costs fortune. >> this is because we don't want them to smoke. >> well, that's but but but people as people have personal choice as well, ? we to well, don't they? we have to leave people. >> remember the when leave people. >> father remember the when leave people. >> father waszmber the when leave people. >> father was so )er the when leave people. >> father was so annoyed when leave people. >> father was so annoyed that/hen my father was so annoyed that they stopped smoking on aeroplanes. can remember aeroplanes. can you remember when did that? my when they did that? and my father but look, father was livid. but look, i think smokers have to be more well mannered , you know, and well mannered, you know, and even on outdoor places , they ask even on outdoor places, they ask if it's okay to smoke rather than just lighting up because you know, as you nana, it you know, as you say, nana, it is filthy habit. you hate smoking. >> i used to smoke. i used to smoke oh, god , my smoke one of the oh, god, my parents don't know about but parents don't know about it, but i worst. i'm one i was one of the worst. i'm one of worst ex—smokers i of the worst ex—smokers ever. i used know, but used to smoke and, you know, but i thought was was at i thought i was cool. it was at university and, you know, i smoked maybe about smoked maybe for about ten years. it all years. if i was to add it all up. then i remember one time

up. and then i remember one time somebody said you carry up. and then i remember one time sorsmoking.|id you carry up. and then i remember one time sorsmoking. you've you carry up. and then i remember one time sorsmoking. you've got'ou carry up. and then i remember one time sorsmoking. you've got beautiful up. and then i remember one time sorsngirl.|g. you've got beautiful up. and then i remember one time sorsngirl. you ou've got beautiful up. and then i remember one time sorsngirl. you carry got beautiful skin, girl. you carry on smoking like get lips like like that. you'll get lips like an. oh, and i thought, you know what? sorry if i've offended anybody. there but it was actually biological term actually a biological term behind and if i use the other one, a trouble. one, i've been a lot of trouble. but imagine the but that's it. i imagine the little somebody's little you know, when somebody's been all the time, been doing that all the time, you get the little stopped. you get the little i stopped. i stopped was the stopped that day. that was the end, all. end, that's all. >> you didn't know how >> and you just didn't know how people any treatment. people without any treatment. >> so it was for vanity, not for health. >> it was vanity. >> it was vanity. >> yes. >> yes. >> you see, i was told i'd get yellow teeth, i didn't want that. >> i didn't start until >> but i didn't start until i was which is an old i'd was 27, which is an old age. i'd been elected to blackburn council labour councillor council as a labour councillor and other people in the and many other people in the labour group smoked and i started smoking. and one of the few rooms in blackburn town hall at the time where you could smoke was labour room. smoke was the labour group room. we it as smoking area. we designate it as smoking area. is that many labour councillors smoked ? smoked? >> well, i hate it. >> well, i hate it. >> i hate banning things. i don't think it's right. i think people be responsible and people should be responsible and it's up to that individual .

it's up to that individual. >> well, do you think i mean, i'm thinking banning it i think is a good thing. but you know, because i think it's so detrimental it's detrimental to people that it's not really justifiable for it to be something wrong, because i think talking for think he's talking about for people of under 18. people who are sort of under 18. so it's not completely out right forever. for young forever. it's just for young people think good people. i think that's a good thing. unfortunately, the thing. but unfortunately, the vapes becoming more popular vapes are becoming more popular and people are getting hooked on part solution, aren't they? >> they're moving people to be worse for your lungs. >> , you don't know >> but sadly, you don't know what's the vapes. what's involved with the vapes. and youngest son started and my youngest son started vaping really vaping and it was really difficult for him to get off. and just know the and you just don't know the toxins in vapes. so you toxins that are in vapes. so you know, know people use them to know, i know people use them to get but still get off smoking, but it's still very get off smoking, but it's still venwell, send us your thoughts. >> well, send us your thoughts. gb views dot com. now gb views gb news dot com. now on the difficult the way. my difficult conversation tuned. don't the way. my difficult coranywhere tuned. don't the way. my difficult coranywhere . tuned. don't go anywhere. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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ground warning ground or met office warning in force for the afternoon into the evening of scotland. evening for parts of scotland. heavy for northern ireland, heavy rain for northern ireland, northern england, two bright spells further south will lift temperatures up to around 21 celsius into monday . we see that celsius into monday. we see that weather system clear away . we're weather system clear away. we're left with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers to take us through the day and then it stays unsettled. tuesday and into wednesday as well . further into wednesday as well. further showers tuesday, heavy rain, strong winds likely on wednesday i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> well, good afternoon . it's >> well, good afternoon. it's fast approaching 14 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua akua. and it's now time for my difficult conversation. now today it's with two brilliant entrepreneurs , mitch herbert and linda ball. now now they are the innovators

behind turning plastic in the ocean into useful medical equipment. they're supporting the nhs and helping to clean up our oceans. so i'm pleased our oceans. so i'm very pleased to say that mitch and linda join me now. thank you very much for joining me. it's really good to see you both. >> you're welcome. good to see you, too. >> fabulous, right? of >> fabulous, right? so first of all, linda, about >> fabulous, right? so first of all, this linda, about >> fabulous, right? so first of all, this concept inda, about >> fabulous, right? so first of all, this concept ,1da, about >> fabulous, right? so first of all, this concept , because |t this this concept, because you're actually taking plastic. just just disused plastic that's in the ocean and you're actually recycling it and making it into something that is useful. talk to and how this is to me about why and how this is done. >> e“ enl- >> so, first of all, obviously, you , there's much you know, there's so much plastic there in the ocean plastic out there in the ocean and landfills. so that's where i started with sequel . started with sequel. >> so. >> so. >> so. >> so sequel are the sequel are a partnership me. a partnership with me. >> they're in europe, they >> they're in europe, so they collect the waste from the ocean. >> they also collect it from landfill because you can only use of ocean waste to use a part of the ocean waste to mix in with the landfill because by the time it's come out of the ocean, it's so degradated you only are allowed to use a certain amount of that, although we to be changing we are going to be changing that moving explain that to you

afterwards. >> but what we do is we mix 35% organic cotton with 65% post—consumer waste. >> so where do you get the cotton from? so that's from spain. okay, so that's all grown in spain. so that's why we have the lowest carbon footprint, because do is in because everything we do is in europe to the uk. so they collect the waste there. they make the yarn there, they then make the yarn there, they then make the yarn there, they then make the textile there, they send the textile to me here in the uk and then we make these wonderful scrubs. so so you mix this plastic, this plastic from the ocean with this cotton that you get in spain to make these so they first of all, so what they do, first of all, is obviously they the is obviously they collect the polymer, collect the polymer, so they collect the post—consumer only. so but so thatis post—consumer only. so but so that is polyester . so pet is that is polyester. so pet is like your water bottle or food packaging, things like that, because certain polymers you can only use for certain things. right which people are not quite clear on that at the moment. so we need to give them the education to teach them to segregate the waste. then that way we won't have to keep

putting it the bins, putting putting it in the bins, putting it landfill. can just keep it in landfill. we can just keep reusing over over again. it in landfill. we can just keep reusi would ver over again. it in landfill. we can just keep reusi would ver idea again. it in landfill. we can just keep reusi would ver idea moving that would be the idea moving forward . right? forward. right? >> how bad is the >> so just how bad is the situation with plastic in situation with the plastic in the it it's so bad. it's critical >> it it's so bad. it's critical because if you think about it, i don't think a lot of people know this, the moment the this, but from the moment the plastic is made, if it's not fortified correctly, it starts degrading very quickly. when it degrade , it lets off greenhouse degrade, it lets off greenhouse gases and so it degrades, what, into small , gases and so it degrades, what, into small, micro like particles into small, micro like particles in the air. and obviously you only get the micro plastics and the micro fibres through the through the cycle of things. so if you're moving it about a lot, so , you know, when you put your so, you know, when you put your clothes the dryer or clothes in the tumble dryer or it starts spinning around, well all of those little fibres start coming why you get coming off. that's why you get loads of fluff in the tumble dryer. >> see, that's why there's no. mitch, your involvement >> see, that's why there's no. mithis? your involvement in this? >> i've been involved for 5 or 6 years. a years. it's nice to make a difference world and as difference in the world and as soon saw the products that soon as i saw the products that linda developed, blown linda had developed, i was blown away and when . you

away by them. and when. you consider that the average person is ingesting a credit card with a plastic a week, no. >> yeah, roughly. >> yeah, roughly. >> yeah. yeah and that's just the plastic solution. but then when you take into consideration the co2 savings and the water savings and the energy savings, this is a game changer for the world. >> but won't that still remain the same because you're making things plastic and then things with plastic and then there'll plastic out there'll be more plastic out there? what's different there? still, what's different about it? we're fortifying the product so that basically product so that so basically when we make these products, you can use them again and again. >> it's about is it you can use them up to 20, times and then them up to 20, 20 times and then we take them back again, we can take them back again, melt down and reuse them. we can take them back again, meltour down and reuse them. we can take them back again, meltour aim own and reuse them. we can take them back again, meltour aim isn and reuse them. we can take them back again, meltour aim is tornd reuse them. we can take them back again, meltour aim is to makere them. we can take them back again, meltour aim is to make sure 1em. we can take them back again, meltour aim is to make sure that and our aim is to make sure that nothing goes back into the ocean and into our into fish and and goes into our into fish and into our doesn't it? into our bodies, doesn't it? >> because i thought you'd come up something the up with something that stops the plastic into these plastic from turning into these tiny little fibres. that's. >> that's that's my technology. so got top grade so i've got a top grade scientist, is 77 years old. his name is dr. webster. he's in name is dr. joe webster. he's in nonh name is dr. joe webster. he's in north in america. and north carolina in america. and he the technology called he created the technology called altering. so he alters the state

of the plastic and the rheology and the thermal stability and everything that you do with it. so what we did was we did a project won i a competition with bupa. so we got the plastic medical aprons, you know , medical aprons, you know, everybody goes in with white everybody goes in with a white plastic apron. took plastic medical apron. we took them , we ground them down, we them, we ground them down, we put the ultra inside and put the ultra in inside and a normal apron that you purchase for medical is like 30g. and ours is 184. it allowed to us recycle that apron. 20 times. that's incredible, isn't it? right so we can. don't just do that with that apron. we have an ultra in for every single polymer. that's an apron. is this is the technology that you put in. so when you put it in at the melting stage , it allows you the melting stage, it allows you to melt at 40 degrees, lower. so can you imagine you're saving energy, carbon and water to begin with. so if you're going down 40 degrees temperature, you're then saving loads more carbon . carbon. >> yeah. and so ultimately the things that you're creating as

well are more recyclable. so you can continue to and also they're long lasting. >> so the quality of that, so the quality of that . the quality of that. >> so this is just like a normal, the normal scrubs that they normal scrubs . they wear, the normal scrubs. yeah, that. and that's yeah, look at that. and that's made out of it. >> is plastic , >> 65% of that is plastic, partly from the ocean and partly from landfill. and the beauty of this is, is fully traceable. so we track and trace our waste from where we get it. >> how is it traceable ? >> how is it traceable? >> how is it traceable? >> where does it go? so we make sure obviously we're sure that obviously where we're collecting , we say this collecting it from, we say this is from point b , is collected from point b, so say go out say we the fishermen, go out into spain , they collect the into spain, they collect the plastic, they bring it back, they go out to portugal, they collect plastic. we've collect the plastic. or we've got ngos . so they're going on got ngos. so they're going on the they're collecting got ngos. so they're going on the waste, they're collecting got ngos. so they're going on the waste, they're 're collecting got ngos. so they're going on the waste, they're collecting ng the waste, they're collecting it from the so we're from the rivers. so we're growing it. we're getting bigger and bigger. well why are we not doing that anyway? >> were not stuff >> why were we not reusing stuff in way? in this way? >> because because you >> somebody because because you have to understand the reason for that is the oil industry. because previously the more oil , the more plastic that's made,

the more oil that's used. this is an oil based product. all plastic is an oil based and it's not the plastic. it's what you do with it. because it's not do with it. so because it's not fortified correctly from the get 90, fortified correctly from the get go, so they'll use a very , very go, so they'll use a very, very small amount and it will be very weak. so by the time we get it, that's rubbish that we've that's the rubbish that we've got. so a vicious circle . got. so it's a vicious circle. >> so if people want to find out more get involved in this, do more or get involved in this, do you somewhere can you have somewhere they can go and can to at supra >> they can come to me at supra cycling dot co and they can come >> they can come to me at supra cy meg dot co and they can come >> they can come to me at supra cy meg dupcycleld they can come >> they can come to me at supra cy meg dupcycle medical.com.me >> they can come to me at supra cereathpcycle medical.com.me >> they can come to me at supra cy ryeah well cle medical.com. me >> they can come to me at supra cereah well ,le medical.com.me >> they can come to me at supra cy ryeah well ,le med thank m. me >> they can come to me at supra cy ryeah well ,le med thank youre >> yeah well, listen, thank you both for joining us. >> yeah well, listen, thank you both forjoining us. mitch you're you're very both forjoining us. mitch you're to you're very both forjoining us. mitch you're to yyou. very both forjoining us. mitch you're to yyou. really good welcome to meet you. really good to talk think it's to talk to you. i think it's fantastic. that's we should fantastic. that's what we should be absolutely there's >> yeah, absolutely. there's trillions waste trillions of tonnes of waste in the and all around the the ocean and all around the world, reclaim it, world, so we need to reclaim it, repurpose it, upcycle repurpose it, reuse it, upcycle it, super recycle it and create zero waste. >> and genuine carbon >> and it's genuine carbon savings as well, not greenwashing. >> it's not greenwashing. >> yeah, it's not greenwashing. not greenwashing . not greenwashing. >> the government to be >> the government needs to be listening so that if there's genuine for sure genuine about, you know for sure waste this needs to be waste and this needs to be something to them. >> well, that's a good thing about doing. about what we're doing. if we were given

were to be audited at any given stage, that we'll come stage, we know that we'll come out the right way we're not out the right way and we're not greenwashing by means. greenwashing by any means. >> well, listen, thank you so much me . thank much for joining me. thank you. talk is linda ball talk to you. that is linda ball and also mitch herbert. thank you this is gb news on you so much. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. up tv, online and on digital radio. up it's time for the great up next, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm time to cull i'm asking, is it time to cull the service that's the the civil service that's on the way

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civil servants need to be handled handed their p45s. so if the civil service is to be saved , what do you think? do we need doesit , what do you think? do we need does it need a cull? so i'm asking for the great british debate hour. is it time to debate this hour. is it time to cull them? let's see. joining cull them? so let's see. joining me now, denis macshane, former labour mp ibrahim, political commentator , peter spencer, commentator, peter spencer, political commentator and beunda political commentator and belinda de lucy, former brexit party mep. i'm going to start with you, belinda de lucy . with you, belinda de lucy. >> oh, well, yes , absolutely. >> oh, well, yes, absolutely. >> oh, well, yes, absolutely. >> we need to have a legal cap on the amount of civil servants we've had. >> we've seen an increase of . >> we've seen an increase of. 100,000 extra civil servant jobs . since 2016. >> we are now paying over £15 billion a year during a time where we're told there's no money for tax cuts, but there's hundreds of millions of pounds for diversity officer officers . for diversity officer officers. and you know what's even worse is that a recent report has come out that . 1 million civil

out that. 1 million civil servants days are waste died from having to attend these training courses on diverse equity, inclusion and equality . equity, inclusion and equality. >> and these are deeply contested ideologies and we know what they're all being taught that women are bad if we say no to men in our changing rooms and white people are born guilty just because of the colour of our skin and this is costing the taxpayer hundreds of millions. it was never in a manifesto and no one voted for this. >> these jobs should be cancelled asap . cancelled asap. >> they're an insult to the british taxpayer . british taxpayer. >> i like it. all right, let's go. denis macshane. yes i sort of agree with that. >> i mean, it's lovely, excitable, sort of daily mail language. i remember as a very young journalist writing the first pamphlet for the nuj , first pamphlet for the nuj, asking why there wasn't a single black or bame reporter on television or on radio, and i

was trashed . the word woke was trashed. the word woke wasn't invented outed then as using naughty language and degrading the argument. using naughty language and degrading the argument . and degrading the argument. and editors had just hire the best people for the job. i thought diversity . then 40 years ago, diversity. then 40 years ago, was a good idea . i still do. but was a good idea. i still do. but we'll always meet people who don't want to confront the fact that some people need a bit of change. culling the civil service, getting rid of a lot and certainly change the treasury because they dictate to ministers who have no intellectual firepower of their own to take on very, very clever people. all were at eton and winchester, like rishi sunak , winchester, like rishi sunak, and they're the ones who keep tanking our economy. since the tories came in 13 years ago. >> well, let's go to peter spencen >> well, let's go to peter spencer. peter well , of course spencer. peter well, of course wokery has found its way into the civil service as it's found its way into everywhere else. >> i mean , let's face it, there >> i mean, let's face it, there are gender neutral toilets in paddington, as you were both

well aware. nana the same as there are in whitehall. but it's a question of how big you make this. now, of course , civil this. now, of course, civil servants do have an impact on legislation and wrote legislation and wrote legislation that can be extremely sensitive . but i think extremely sensitive. but i think the genesis of this problem is actually the social media explosion, which seems to have schooled everybody to shout at one another and have no tolerance, whatever for of what anything anyone else has to say. and i would just finally make the point that in shakespeare's day it was considered perfectly normal for blokes to play the part of women quite often playing the pretending to be men. so if it's good enough for audiences at the globe , i'd say audiences at the globe, i'd say it's good enough for us. >> yeah, but peter, they knew they pretending. they were pretending. some people actually think they are. reem ibrahim yeah, i mean, this, this ideology is this type of ideology is incredibly pervasive. >> authoritarian and it's

>> it's authoritarian and it's effectively entered our universities , our most respected universities, our most respected institutions . institutions. >> and now, of course, it's entered the civil service and we spend huge amounts of money on the civil service. the government ever expanding. government is ever expanding. and yet we still have the highest tax burden since the second war. think second world war. i think beunda second world war. i think belinda right. second world war. i think belirisa right. second world war. i think belirisa insult right. second world war. i think belirisa insult to right. second world war. i think belirisa insult to the ght. this is an insult to the taxpayer and ultimately this kind of ideology where effectively freedom of expression isn't allowed and is now being permitted in to the civil service. let's remember the civil servants are supposed to be impartial. the civil servants are supposed to be impartial . all they're to be impartial. all they're supposed to be politically neutral. and this kind of ideology is so pervasive that it's effectively infiltrated our pubuc it's effectively infiltrated our public institutions as well. >> listen , keep your thoughts >> listen, keep your thoughts coming. vaiews@gbnews.uk com. this is gb news. thank you so much to denis macshane, former labour ibrahim , political labour mp ibrahim, political commentator peter spencer and also belinda de lucy, former brexit party mep. thank you very much thoughts. well, much for your thoughts. well, this thoughts. are this is their thoughts. what are yours get in yours? you know how to get in touch. touch. now is yours? you know how to get in tou news. touch. now is yours? you know how to get in tou news. we touch. now is yours? you know how to get in tou news. we are :h. now is yours? you know how to get in tou news. we are theiow is yours? you know how to get in tou news. we are the people's s gb news. we are the people's channel. nana akua coming up channel. i'm nana akua coming up

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so—called woke civil servants to be sacked. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it to them asking, is it time to cull them anyway? so let's see what anyway? right. so let's see what my make of that. i'm my panel make of that. i'm joined broadcaster joined by broadcaster and columnist also columnist lizzie cundy and also former danczuk . former labour mp simon danczuk. simon, i'm going to come to you straight civil service straight away. civil service is too and it's too big. it's bloated and it's turned woke. turned completely woke. >> think it's turned >> well, i do think it's turned woke. there's no doubt about that. i failures within that. i think failures within the home office that isn't fit for purpose that needs some radical think some radical revision. i think some of the solution are a lot of the solution to the civil service is to follow more american model. to follow a more american model. so we make political so we make a political appointments within the civil service instead of having permanent secretaries that work their way up, who career civil servants. i think we should have political appointments i political appointments and i think we need more people with private sector experience in the civil service is cracking the whip, making it work much more effectively and efficiently. >> i like that idea because then it means that they can't get a foothold and then turn against a minister. so for example, in the case patel and all

case of priti patel and all those other ministers who amber rudd, people in the rudd, all those people in the foreign office who suddenly found themselves out of a job, sue gray is . sue gray is. >> sue gray, who's gone to the labour . labour party. >> it's just ridiculous. >> it's absolutely it is ridiculous. , how about ridiculous. i mean, how about them stop unseat every them stop trying to unseat every every government mp that they are opposed to ? how about they are opposed to? how about they get with the job? they're get on with the job? they're supposed margaret supposed to do as margaret thatcher said, advisers advise and ministers decide . and but and ministers decide. and but that seems to have gone out the window and they've been given way too much power. and can i just you something? we have just tell you something? we have 522,000 who work for the civil servants. >> unbelievable. >> unbelievable. >> they're supposed to be politically impartial and their average salary goes from 40 up to 80 grand a year. and they're costing the salary bill is over 15.5 billion. so on tax , you 15.5 billion. so on tax, you know, what are they doing with our taxpayers money, you know, frittering away on this woke nonsense ? i think it's quite nonsense? i think it's quite appalling. and you know, half of

them work from home and their productivity is very i mean, honestly , very questionable. has honestly, very questionable. has had a lot of criticism. and i think we've got to be we've got to have something done about this. i really do. it's a real worry . worry. >> well, i mean, look, there are too many of them a lot of them are still working from home at and they are not impartial, as we're seeing. and then there's this group of this gender ideology that is coming into play. and it seems as though it is becoming a bullying workplace unless there unless you agree to it. there has be a way that we can has to be a way that we can reduce it because about has to be a way that we can redlamount cause about has to be a way that we can redlamountcalmoney about has to be a way that we can redlamount calmoney the rout the amount of money the government they government could save if they got of the civil got rid of many of the civil servants think. got rid of many of the civil senbuts think. got rid of many of the civil sen but it think. got rid of many of the civil sen but it has ink. got rid of many of the civil sen but it has to 1. got rid of many of the civil senbut it has to be a radical >> but it has to be a radical solution. got solution. we've got a conservative government at the moment. why haven't they sorted it they've been power moment. why haven't they sorted it 13 they've been power moment. why haven't they sorted it 13 years. ve been power moment. why haven't they sorted it 13 years. whyaen power moment. why haven't they sorted it 13 years. why haven'tower moment. why haven't they sorted it 13 years. why haven't they for 13 years. why haven't they got grip of this? think they got a grip of this? i think they i politicians once they i think politicians once they get power, get captured by get into power, get captured by the civil servants, civil servants and start sort of following their agenda. and we haven't got a radical conservative government in place

and they're not introducing a radical solution to what is a real problem . but. real problem. but. >> simon doesn't your case? >> simon doesn't your case? >> starmer want more civil servants? >> well, that's the thing. >> well, that's the thing. >> certainly does terms >> it certainly does in terms of sorting immigration sorting out the immigration problem . not keir problem. it's not my keir starmer , is it? starmer, is it? >> former labour mps. >> you are former labour mps. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> side of fence are >> what side of the fence are you on? >> well, i to >> well, i try to make a decision in politics, which is what i think is best for the country, not what is best for the party or what's best the labour party or what's best for the conservative party. what i the country. i think is best for the country. and probably distinguished i think is best for the country. and little obably distinguished i think is best for the country. and little bit bly distinguished i think is best for the country. and little bit withintinguished i think is best for the country. and little bit within the uished me a little bit within the labour party because it's very tribal . all you've stick tribal. all you've got to stick to supporting leader, to supporting the leader, supporting tribe , and i supporting the tribe, and i never really fit into that . and never really fit into that. and in instance i think you're in this instance i think you're right call and right. we need to call and radically over overhaul the civil service because it's not delivering. that's best delivering. that's the best decision for the country. >> some would >> lizzie, some people would say having they're having said that, they're not delivering that. actually, we need they're need more people because they're not . well, no, not delivering. well, no, they're not delivering. well, no, the they're delivering >> they're not delivering because half because they're lazy. half of them are at they're not them are at home. they're not doing nana let me give doing anything nana let me give you here, simon.

you some facts here, simon. between march 2016 to march this yean between march 2016 to march this year, civil servant employment has gone over from 400,000 over nearly to 550,000. that's the sharpest increase in 50 years. even the greater than the entire regular forces of the british army. why do we need them? they're not doing what they're supposed to do. >> it's about productivity . it's >> it's about productivity. it's a failure productivity. we're a failure of productivity. we're just not getting the productivity. has productivity. britain has a productivity. britain has a productivity problem both in the pubuc productivity problem both in the public sector and to an extent in the private sector. and what that ultimately that that ultimately means is that we're more taxes and we're paying more taxes and getting services from the getting fewer services from the from the civil servants . absolutely. >> radical trim . >> radical trim. >> radical trim. >> but again, i come back to the same argument if a same argument that if it's a productivity and you said productivity thing and you said the lazy , they are half of the the lazy, they are half of the work at home. >> remember jacob's mob >> rememberjacob's mob going around saying, i just don't understand . understand. >> as understand. >> the >> it seems as though the government able to government aren't able to get rid is there rid of them. is there some reason can't? i like reason why they can't? i like youridea reason why they can't? i like your idea actually having your idea of actually having it so are they are so that they are they are partisan. people have partisan. so people have selected the servants. so selected the civil servants. so that you can't have some of them just carrying on through successive governments and

becoming more and more powerful and unseat and then being able to unseat a government on government just by forcing on strikes , for example, stuff strikes, for example, and stuff like that. i like that idea. but how do we get how does the government more private, more private involvement? private sector involvement? >> but for the people who are currently can't currently employed, you can't just people. no, just get rid of people. no, no, no. exactly right. but it no. that's exactly right. but it has overall, suppose has to be overall, i suppose you'd redundancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things redundancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things like redundancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things like this, redundancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things like this, butindancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things like this, but itiancies has to be overall, i suppose you'things like this, but it hasies and things like this, but it has to real up. you can't to be a real shake up. you can't with it. it has to be a radical change. and we haven't seen that in the last years. what civil in the last 13 years. what civil servants are dripping their own politically motive poison at every opportunity. >> i agree. they can't be doing especially in the home office, any minister they like. any minister they do not like. >> you get >> all of a sudden you get a raft had eight leaks, eight home secretaries . secretaries. >> so it's been a bit silly. but listen, this is nothing without you and your let's you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices. opportunity to be welcome our great british voithe opportunity to be welcome our great british voithe and ortunity to be welcome our great british voithe and tell1ity to be welcome our great british voithe and tell us' to be welcome our great british voithe and tell us what; on the show and tell us what they about topics that they think about the topics that we're discussing. i've got three of let's start with of you, right. let's start with alan there in alan mcnealy. he's there in grimsby. alan, is it time for a cull of the civil servants ? cull of the civil servants? >> afternoon , nana yes, i >> good afternoon, nana yes, i think it is. it's long past

time. nana there was a proposal by the conservative to cut about 90,000 was 18 months ago or so . 90,000 was 18 months ago or so. >> so i'm not sure why they haven't carried that out, but i believe that around 80% of them are actually still working from home. >> so you have to question what exactly are they doing ? exactly are they doing? >> i mean, it seems to me that they are just swinging the lead to be quite honest. >> well, some of them are working from abroad. all over. they get permission to do that, of course. but you know, i would they get permission to do that, of inclinedyut you know, i would they get permission to do that, of inclined to you know, i would they get permission to do that, of inclined to reduceow, i would they get permission to do that, of inclined to reduce their would be inclined to reduce their salary if they're not coming in. bnan salary if they're not coming in. brian dugan yeah, i agree . brian dugan yeah, i agree. >> i agree with alan there. >> i agree with alan there. >> i agree with alan there. >> i believe it was 90,000 that were meant to be kind of chopped off or whatever that the government were looking at. >> and we have this kind of life membership of, of the administrative class. and i'm not so sure that it is benefiting the country to the extent that that, you know, we're funding it as taxpayers .

extent that that, you know, we're funding it as taxpayers. i think, lizzy, it makes makes the perfect point. you know, we're almost we're increasing the number but for what? and i just think there's a stasis in there and they're not it was a good point what do we why are we increasing them? >> i mean, at one point was it they were processing nine asylum claims? a week? let's claims? a week? well, let's go to hayes there in to jonathan hayes there in cornwall. jonathan yeah, i agree with a of tea. with a cup of tea. >> definitely a big, big cull . >> definitely a big, big cull. they should all be drinking tea. remember nation remember when we were a nation of drinkers , we ran the of tea drinkers, we ran the whole of the from london whole of the empire from london on those number of on a fraction of those number of civil servants. the scope for civil servants. so the scope for big cull the private sector big cull in the private sector is measured by sales per employee . why can't we have employee. why can't we have something like that in the pubuc something like that in the public ? public sector? >> it because if we did the government would save a whole heap of cash. thank you very much jones, who's much to jonathan jones, who's there , alan in there in cornwall, alan in grimsby, solihull . grimsby, and brian in solihull. lovely to you. those are lovely to talk to you. those are my voices what my great british voices so what do i've been my great british voices so what do is i've been my great british voices so what do is it i've been my great british voices so what do is it time i've been my great british voices so what do is it time i've ithei asking? is it time to cull the civil service? lots of you been

getting touch with getting in touch with your views. says civil views. liz says the civil service a good taken service needs a good 20% taken from scrapped , from all levels and scrapped, and that is at least they and that is at least 20. they also to get back to the also need to get back to the office. yeah john says. i would sack them all in london and move the civil service to the midlands and the north. they wouldn't be working from home and moving to to and moving it to part to those parts of the country would massively local massively help the local economies. well, a good economies. well, that's a good point, doesn't have to point, isn't it? doesn't have to be in london, does be so much of it in london, does it? soon as they can work it? as soon as they can work from why just from home, why can't we just move to other parts move parts of it to other parts of country and have the of the country and have the whole there? bill whole thing set up there? bill says after 31 years working says that after 31 years working as a civil servant in the ministry made ministry of defence, i was made redundant with 3000 other engineers when the berlin wall came days, mrs. came down. in those days, mrs. thatcher didn't hesitate to cull a whole department, so we a whole department, so can't we do now? yeah. i'm still do that now? yeah. i'm still waiting for my passport, saying yes. have you been waiting ages, darling? >> honestly , it would be easier >> honestly, it would be easier getting an appointment to see the pope than getting my passport. >> well, the other day i had the misfortune calling misfortune of calling hmrc. i was on the phone and took an

hour and 15 minutes to get through to somebody. i mean, like, they doing? like, what are they doing? >> this is despicable, bill. >> this is despicable, bill. >> just >> i know. it's just unbelievable . but it's now, unbelievable. but it's time now, though, my quick fire quiz. though, for my quick fire quiz. this is part of the show this is the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the that the other stories that are hitting headlines hitting the headlines right now. i'm broadcast i'm joined by broadcast from columnist your columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer, lizzie and also buzzer, please. lizzie and also former labour mp simon danczuk. your buzzer, please write and please play along at home. and remember, do not buzz until i finish the question or else you'll be ejected. right? question one what it had to be rescued by firefighters this week? was it a wing, a wingless pigeon? was it b a co—op delivery robot or c , a drunk delivery robot or c, a drunk firefighter ? i don't know. i firefighter? i don't know. i think that was lizzie cundy . think that was lizzie cundy. >> i'm going for b, i'll go for c, you're going for b, a co—op delivery? >> yeah. you're saying a drunk firefighter. we'll see you in. the answer is it's b, a co—op delivery robot . there you go. delivery robot. there you go. that's true. yes because the robot basically had lost its way and accident .

robot basically had lost its way and accident. he robot basically had lost its way and accident . he got caught robot basically had lost its way and accident. he got caught in a fire show . fire show. >> well, i'm right next to a court, maybe i'll try and have a look for one of the robots with the robot. >> can it do steps like daleks , >> can it do steps like daleks, like the. >> dance ? >> the dance? >> the dance? >> what is the robot ? well done, >> what is the robot? well done, lizzie . right. question two true lizzie. right. question two true or false? disney world, florida faced many closures this week after a bear had escaped and was on the loose in the magical kingdom . lizzie cundy true, it's kingdom. lizzie cundy true, it's true. simon false . did you pass true. simon false. did you pass your buzzer false . your buzzer false. >> she's very, very strict. >> she's very, very strict. >> it's true, actually . so >> it's true, actually. so you're wrong. anyway you're winning. it's true . yes, of winning. it's true. yes, of course. the magic kingdom. have you ever been to disney world? >> yes, i have indeed. love >> yes, i have indeed. i love disney. >> yes, i have indeed. i love disiwell, my parents took my >> well, my parents took my family, and the time i had family, and at the time i had a very younger brother very small, younger brother because obviously he's big now. and pints. but minnie and drinks pints. but minnie mouse and mickey mouse, these giant things came towards him and he looked at them and went, aha , they're massive .

aha, they're massive. >> they are frightening. >> they are frightening. >> i know they are . it's like >> i know they are. it's like they're huge . they're huge. >> right? question is, this is a picture of him in his prime. >> they won't appreciate you telling the story. really. no, he boy. he won't my boy. >> it's the same thing with snow white. she was massive well . oh, >> she was massive as well. oh, question three reese arch released this week showed that having can make a having a watch can make a positive effect on your mood. is having a watch can make a pca tive effect on your mood. is having a watch can make a pca stiff effect on your mood. is having a watch can make a pca stiff upper)n your mood. is having a watch can make a pca stiff upper)n youritfood. is having a watch can make a pca stiff upper)n yourit b,»d. is having a watch can make a pca stiff upper)n yourit b, a is it a stiff upper lip? is it b, a pet parakeet or c, an extra phone ? simon b, b, a parakeet? phone? simon b, b, a parakeet? >> is it a stiff upper lip? >> is it a stiff upper lip? >> upper lip? let's see the answer. is it a it's a stiff upper lip. >> three that's very true for neil, too, because if you always positive if you're always positive, you know, think everything's to good . everything's going to be good. >> even when it feels bad, you'll be all right. >> yes, it's because >> well, yes, it's true because the released research. >> well, yes, it's true because the research released research. >> well, yes, it's true because the research ineleased research. >> well, yes, it's true because the research in the ;ed research. >> well, yes, it's true because the research in the telegraph h. the research in the telegraph shows that burying negative feelings and keeping a stiff upper lip has been shown to improve mood . well, it's improve your mood. well, it's true, it? instead of going true, isn't it? instead of going around whingeing about everything, everyone i'd everything, everyone goes, i'd avoid them. the person with the stiff upper lip was having stiff upper lip who was having

fun, they're fun, who looks like they're having to go having fun. you're going to go with them. question rupert with them. question four rupert murdoch he'll murdoch has announced that he'll be chairman murdoch has announced that he'll be corp chairman murdoch has announced that he'll be corp fox. chairman murdoch has announced that he'll be corp fox. buthairman murdoch has announced that he'll be corp fox. but how1an of news corp and fox. but how old he? closest answer wins. old is he? closest answer wins. lizzie 92, 93. okay. simon lizzie cundy 92, 93. okay. simon done. lizzie cundy 92, 93. okay. simon done . let's see. the answer is done. let's see. the answer is lizzie cundy 92. yes. on you got it. all of it. oh, god . well, it. all of it. oh, god. well, everyone, congrats. >> thank you. thank you . that's first. >> i've got everyone right. and your question. there's one your final question. there's one more six. >> sorry , i was jumping the gun >> sorry, i was jumping the gun a bit, but you can't win. >> simon. she's three anyway, but question five the uk was hit by an aggressive storm. this week, the name of week, but what was the name of that b, that storm? was it a michele b, nigel. c jacob hey, michele. hey, . what was it? no hey, michele. what was it? no i'm going for nigel. it was nigel, for god's sake . what is nigel, for god's sake. what is this? not enough politics in there. they're just. oh, there you go. there you go. so congratulations . thank you. congratulations. thank you. thank you. my quiz winner. now, listen, i've decided to create something called a viral moment because week i go through because every week i go through onune because every week i go through online and find clips that always laugh. i've

always make me laugh. so i've found a viral video this week . found a viral video this week. now, this has caught my eye exposing the hypocrisy of left wing activists calling for more and more migration on. take a look. i just noticed your placard saying refugees welcome here. >> i just wondering if you'd like to go down on the list saying you're willing to take the your home. the refugees into your home. >> only problem is i rent. you rent. yeah, maybe an issue. >> yeah, because they've got . >> yeah, because they've got. >> yeah, because they've got. >> well, they've put nine bedrooms in a four bedroom house, so we're pretty much to actually adopt the refugee and take them into your home. >> well, if i had any space i would have had any space. >> would. >> it would. >> it would. >> wouldn't a nice place to >> wouldn't be a nice place to bnng >> wouldn't be a nice place to bring it's a bit bring them because it's a bit overcrowded, bring them because it's a bit overcro had i, bring them because it's a bit overcrohad the space, >> if i had the space, definitely . definitely. >> thank you much for that. >> thank you very much for that. love rochdale. >> thank you very much for that. lones.:hdale. >> thank you very much for that. lones.:hda|then i like the one. >> yes. and then i like the one. one them says, what kind one of them says, what kind of refugee are and ironically they are at a refugees welcome march but none of them are that interested in taking on any refugees at all. well, listen, it's been it's been fun today.

what do you make, though, finally then , of the fact that finally then, of the fact that we've had rishi sunak this week and you did a bit of a u—turn thing has he gone far enough with net zero? well, i think we should have done this sooner, i'll be honest. >> think going >> but i think we're going in the direction. the right direction. >> . sunak. >> yes. sunak. >> yes. sunak. >> sunak. yes, but it's going in the right direction and our first order of any government is to look after its own people. and it was hurting and i'm afraid it was hurting our and it's the right our economy and it's the right thing our economy and it's the right thirlt our economy and it's the right thirit a step in the right >> it is a step in the right direction. is seeing sense. and i be rewarded i think it'll be rewarded electorally it . it's come electorally with it. it's come back off holiday and is in instituting a number of radical, radical, relatively radical changes which probably help him. >> well, i think he saw what happened uxbridge. happened with the uxbridge. absolutely and he knows that he's got to do something. and ulez the popular do you ulez isn't the popular do you think islam will be doing something? >> he seems be going back and >> he seems to be going back and actually and actually double downing and saying that actually 20, 30, he would reverse this? would actually reverse this? >> i think we're going to see some change in opinion some change in the opinion polls. it's not been polls. actually, it's not been good the conservatives in

good for the conservatives in rishi, with changes rishi, but with changes like this changes that he's this and more changes that he's proposing, it'll proposing, i think it'll gradually start increasing his profile. >> i really think keir starmer he's doing the neil kinnock thing. he's all got it in his hands and i don't think he has. and bringing my starmer and i'll be bringing my starmer flip flops for you for next week. >> i think i might draw some. i've some. i've put a face i've got some. i've put a face on them loser. what do you think ? rishi sunak then actually has a chance of winning this election. >> i've always said it's a really close election. he's got a reasonable chance he might win with a small majority. i think that's quite possible. >> and think if he does >> and i think if he if he does start of his pledges start doing some of his pledges like stopping the boats, which is one that everyone's concerned about, i think he will stand a chance. but net zero going the right direction , just keep doing it. >> it's just not enough, is it? i don't think it's enough . i don't think it's enough. >> he needs get a backbone >> he needs to get a backbone and the political will. and have the political will. i think he could it. think he could do it. >> he could do it? >> you think he could do it? well, you think? well, listen, what do you think? we'll all that we'll be discussing all that tomorrow we'll be discussing all that tortoday's show, been on today's show, i've been asking, time to house asking, is it time to house migrants in tents ? and according

migrants in tents? and according to twitter poll, 83.4% of to our twitter poll, 83.4% of you said, yes, it is . yes, you said, yes, it is. yes, that's my biggest verdict yet. and 16.6% of you said, i don't know who the points are, said no . a huge thank to my panel . a huge thank you to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. much, cundy. thank you very much, lizzie and lizzie cundy, thank you. and also former labour simon also former labour mp simon danczuk joining me today. danczuk for joining me today. and thank you to you at and a huge thank you to you at home company. joining home for your company. joining me tomorrow will matthew me tomorrow will be matthew lazar and the brilliant danny kelly. thank so for kelly. thank you so much for your company. i look forward to seeing time, seeing you tomorrow. same time, same you same place, 3:00. i'll leave you with the with some weather. enjoy the temperatures rising, boxt solar, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there . i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news. whether it's all change again through tonight and into sunday, more rain moving in, the winds increasing through the day , but temperatures rising the day, but temperatures rising as well. and it's all thanks to this area of low pressure which will sweep in weather fronts through of the rest through the course of the rest of weekend into the

of the weekend into the beginning of next the beginning of next week to the tight isobars indicating those strong . so we do have some strong winds. so we do have some dry weather time this dry weather for a time this evening, particularly across central eastern but central and eastern areas. but the west pushing in the rain in the west pushing in as into the early hours. as we move into the early hours. the rain turning heavy times the rain turning heavy at times , particularly hills, , particularly across the hills, across into parts of across scotland into parts of northern england. and wales to temperatures higher than recent nights, generally staying in double figures as that mild air moves in and the winds start to pick up, too. so it means a bit of a cloudy start to sunday morning. outbreaks of rain across wales, across northern england, wales, southwest england to some glimmers for glimmers of sunshine for southeast england. northern parts of scotland for a time, too. and then this rain generally moves northwards through the day, turning particularly heavy over the high ground . met office ground. the met office warning in for the afternoon into in force for the afternoon into the evening parts of the evening for parts of scotland. rain for scotland. heavy rain for northern ireland. northern england, bright spells england, too bright spells further south lift further south will lift temperatures up to around 21 celsius into monday . we see that celsius into monday. we see that weather system clear away . we're weather system clear away. we're left with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers to

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also, do we live in a world dominated by cancel culture and censorship? i'll be discussing this with my panel of thoughtful guests, and we'll be joined by sharif aj to discuss a landmark run happening in london this weekend, all about how running supports mental health. all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news from tatiana sanchez . as . neil. >> thank you and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. a woman arrested after a land rover crashed into a prep school in south london, killing

two children has been repaid .