of september. this is the 27th of september. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and emily carver. >> yes, suella versus elton, the rock star takes on the home secretary after she says being gay is not a reason to claim asylum. we'll have the latest on the clash between showbiz and westminster over migration. can't wait. >> they could be in the society, but not of the society . and in but not of the society. and in extreme cases they could pursue lives aimed at undermining the stability and threatening the security of our society and the hsz security of our society and the hs2 horror show rumbles on. >> is it going to be a tory party civil war over the future of this high speed rail link? if indeed it's got one? meanwhile, all five labour mayors, metro mayors are meeting today to champion support for it, including andy burnham , who including andy burnham, who tells gb he hasn't ruled tells gb news he hasn't ruled out legal action if the northern leg is axed . leg is axed. >> i'm going to lie down. except the way whitehall's always treated the north of england. we

are fighting back. we're getting organised. we're not going to take things lying down. so they'll be hearing from us. >> this is ever so slightly in contrast to what labour leader sir keir starmer said in 2015. though. sir keir starmer said in 2015. though . hs2, hs2 on cost and on though. hs2, hs2 on cost and on merit , it will not achieve its merit, it will not achieve its stated objectives . and trump is stated objectives. and trump is he liable for fraud and new york judge says the former president repeatedly misrepresented his wealth to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars to banks and insurers. >> and i've got to say, i'm terribly excited. say jeffrey archer is coming into the studio this morning. he's going to tell us how you steal the crown jewels . jewels. >> he is indeed. let us know all of thoughts on our talking of your thoughts on our talking points ever. points this morning, as ever. email us, gbviews@gbnews.uk . com

email us, gbviews@gbnews.uk. com we'll get stuck into all of those topics. but first, let's get the news with rhiannon . get the news with rhiannon. >> good morning . it's 932. your >> good morning. it's 932. your top stories from the newsroom . top stories from the newsroom. untapped rosebank oil and gas field north of scotland has been approved for development despite approved for development despite a row over climate damage , which a row over climate damage, which the government says the plans undergone an environmental impact assessment and will be in line with the natural decline of the north sea basin. greenpeace uk climate campaigner philip evans says rishi sunak has proven once and for all that he puts the profits of oil companies above everyday people. norwegian oil giant equinor expects rosebank . to bring £8.1 expects rosebank. to bring £8.1 billion in direct investment to the uk economy and is expected to start producing . in 2026. to start producing. in 2026. five labour mayors from across

the country have joined forces to urge the to pm stay on track with hs2 . they warn that failure with hs2. they warn that failure to deliver in full would leave swathes of the north with victorian transport infrastructure that's unfit fit for purpose. rishi sunak has faced political backlash over reports he's considering axing the birmingham, manchester leg of hs2 amid soaring costs , with of hs2 amid soaring costs, with six former tory mps opposing cutting the line . the united cutting the line. the united nafions cutting the line. the united nations has rejected the home secretary's calls for international law on refugees to be changed. in a speech in washington, dc , suella braverman washington, dc, suella braverman suggests that the united nations , a 1951 refugee convention, often needs updating to stop simply being gay or a woman , simply being gay or a woman, being a reason for people to claim asylum in the uk. ms braverman says a misguided dogma of multiculturalism has allowed people to come to the uk with the aim of undermining the stability and threatening the security of society and whisky.

thought to possibly be the oldest in the world, will be sold at auction for £10,000 a bottle. the tipple was found hidden in an attic space of blair castle in scotland. around 40 bottles are believed to have been distilled almost 200 years ago. whisky auctioneers say the two dozen bottles for sale will likely have a more medicinal taste if you can brave opening one and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com. now it's back over to andrew and . back over to andrew and. emily >> well well, good morning , >> well well, good morning, suella braverman. >> we knew she'd stir a hornet's nest and she has. >> and good for her. yeah just a bit. i mean she said a few things that stood out to me. andrew she said there been andrew she said there has been a misguided dogma of multiculturalism , and this has

multiculturalism, and this has caused a massive stir because i think people confuse things because multiculturalism is different from just having a multiracial society where there are different cultures that exist. it actually means us people living separately according to their culture, in parallel lives . and that's what parallel lives. and that's what she was getting at. and i think people disingenuously disengage arduously took that the wrong way . way. >> and after the bombings in london in 2005, the then prime minister, tony blair, said multiculturalism is failing because people are not integrating enough and they should. there should be more . should. there should be more. and he said it again in 2019. >> and then david cameron and then angela merkel in germany. this isn't controversial. everyone wants a cohesive society except the labour party, which wants to kick the hell out of the home secretary for bravely raising it. >> oh, and sir elton john. let's not forget john. now, i declare an interest here. i think he's a terrific performer. i've seen him perform live. he's fabulous. terrific performer. i've seen hcouldn'trm live. he's fabulous. terrific performer. i've seen hcouldn't care ve. he's fabulous. terrific performer. i've seen hcouldn't care lessie's fabulous.

terrific performer. i've seen hcouldn't care less whathulous. terrific performer. i've seen hcouldn't care less what he .ous. i couldn't care less what he thinks about the prime minister, about the home secretary's speech. >> p- pl- e us, though, >> he likes to tell us, though, doesn't he? >> because says as a >> yeah, because he says as a gay i'm a gay man. then gay man, i'm a gay man. then actually he's appalled that she says it's simply not enough to be think you may be be gay and think you may be susceptible to discriminate action to get asylum in britain . and what's wrong with that? >> and it's also, she says she said that uncontrolled immigration often poses an existential threat and she's right to the west and to this country, people are again missing, interpreting what she said, doesn't said, to say that she doesn't want any immigration and then people her because people go after her because she's ethnic minority and she's an ethnic minority and they how can you they say, you know, how can you say can you of all people, say how can you of all people, the migrants? say how can you of all people, the so migrants? say how can you of all people, the so she's migrants? say how can you of all people, the so she's also nigrants? say how can you of all people, the so she's also gotants? say how can you of all people, the so she's also got the? say how can you of all people, the so she's also got the united >> so she's also got the united nafions >> so she's also got the united nations criticising her. she'll be thrilled about that . i would be thrilled about that. i would have thought she will indeed. >> they said. >> yes. what they said. >> yes. what they said. >> rejected her >> well, they've rejected her calls international law and calls for international law and refugees be changed. refugees to be changed. >> so have >> and. yes. so let's have a little reminder under what little reminder under of what she actually yesterday , she actually said yesterday, where individuals are being persecuted . persecuted. >> and it is right that we offer sanctuary, but we will not be

able to sustain an asylum system if, in effect, simply being gay or a woman or fearful of discrimination in your country of origin is sufficient to qualify for protection . in qualify for protection. in >> and then she said, simply being gay. that's right. not that anyone who's gay shouldn't be given protection, but anyway, let's have a look at some of the reaction that reaction to her speech that she's sasha deshmukh, she's received. sasha deshmukh, chief of amnesty uk, chief executive of amnesty uk, said the speech was a display of cynicism xenophobia . cynicism and xenophobia. >> dearjohn featonby is chief policy analyst at the refugee council who said a high bar for fear of persecution must be met for people granted for people to be granted protection. this not changed. >> the united nations high commissioner refugees said commissioner for refugees said the is not for reform or the need is not for reform or more interpretation more restrictive interpretation , but for stronger and more consistent application of the convention. its underlying convention. and its underlying principle responsive principle of responsive mobility, sharing and action. >> age uk describes suella braverman comments as a direct affront to me a director front to gender equality and human

rights. >> but the most high profile criticism, as we mentioned , came criticism, as we mentioned, came from rock star sir elton john. the singer said the home secretary risked further legitimising hate and violence against lgbt+ people after she called for the definition of who qualifies for protection under the refugee . rules to be the refugee. rules to be tightened . and is that what she tightened. and is that what she was saying? >> she's basically saying if she also said that people have cut this out of the criticism, if you're and a woman and there you're gay and a woman and there is a perception you be is a perception you may be discriminate against, isn't discriminate against, that isn't an right to have an automatic right to have asylum citizenship in this asylum or citizenship in this country. i think she's absolutely right. why don't we ask richard tice, what he thinks? >> why don't we? he's joined us. >> why don't we? he's joined us. >> he's joined in more ways >> he's joined us in more ways than indeed than one. indeed >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> morning you. >> very good morning to you. well, it last night at well, i covered it last night at length my standing in length on my show, standing in for i think for nigel. yeah, i think actually country suella actually the country owes suella braverman debt of braverman a significant debt of thanks. i agree with you. she has speech as home has made a speech as home secretary. could not imagine secretary. you could not imagine any home secretary making just 3

or 4 years ago. and all of the stuff you've just been mentioning. it's all noise in the background. and of the key thrust of the speech , which is thrust of the speech, which is that un 51 convention a that this un 51 convention is a 70 year old convention that is basically no longer fit for purpose for the modern times . purpose for the modern times. and it requires updating as anything , frankly, that 70 year anything, frankly, that 70 year olds requires a bit of dusting down, a bit of checking and a bit of updating . that's what i bit of updating. that's what i highlighted. i actually had an article in the telegraph yesterday where i said it doesn't go far enough. i think we've absolutely got to lead the way on this on behalf of many, many developing countries, developed countries across europe. we are all under threat because we have got millions and millions of economic migrants and this is the thrust of her speech who want to come to europe . and that is europe. and that is unsustainable. and no one has voted for mass immigration. no one has. whether it's lawful or

unlawful. of course, we all want to welcome high quality, high skilled immigration that helps our economy . we always has. but our economy. we always has. but but where you've got where you've got the threat to our literally to our society, our civic society , to our civic society, to our prosperity, to our security, from unlimited numbers. then you are seeing a reaction from the people across europe and in the united kingdom. do you think she made it clear enough that she does value, though, the contribution immigrants to contribution of immigrants to this country? >> because i can understand that some her language may have some of her language may have upset people don't upset people, people don't understand exactly what multiculturalism , let me tell multiculturalism, let me tell you, so see that as you, went. so they see that as an attack on ethnic minorities. >> think i think anything , >> i think i think if anything, actually politician asians actually many politician asians have always praised the contribution that immigration can make. but let's remember the chair of the office for budget responsibility , she on on radio responsibility, she on on radio four today, a few months ago admitted for the first time from admitted for the first time from a senior official that high

levels of low skilled immigration has done nothing for improving wealth per head in this country. high skilled, high quality, fantastic , low skilled, quality, fantastic, low skilled, cheap labour from overseas that suits big business. that actually doesn't help our economy. it doesn't help our individuals. and i think we've got to face up to this bit. so my point is we've got to lead the way. we've got to amend it in a short time frame or say, actually, we're going to lead the we're out. the way, we're out. >> i can't just leave it? >> we can because we can't. and because it requires it, because it requires amend it, richard there's 100. because it requires amend it, riciand there's 100. because it requires amend it, riciand th otheri00. because it requires amend it, riciand th other countries are. >> and that's why that's why you have to lead by saying we're going set a short deadline. going to set a short deadline. otherwise we're out. let's remember, india is not a signatory 51 signatory to the un 51 convention. example , a convention. for example, a massive , huge over massive economy, huge over a billion people growing economy. there are other ways to do things. and so, of course , we things. and so, of course, we can be welcoming of genuine asylum seekers that can be sensibly absorbed . sensibly absorbed. >> can i just ask one question? >> can i just ask one question? >> because tony blair was was

was criticised for essentially opening the doors to mass migration in suella braverman. is there giving a speech complaining about 25 years of high level immigration? what has the conservative party done apart from accelerate it? >> they've done exactly that . in >> they've done exactly that. in fact, in december 19th, in their manifesto , again after many manifesto, again after many manifestos are promising to bnng manifestos are promising to bring lawful immigration down to much lower levels , they've much lower levels, they've actually done exactly the opposite . they've they've made opposite. they've they've made it much easier. the supposed skilled worker visa , they reduce skilled worker visa, they reduce the threshold. so low that it's essentially open borders . and essentially open borders. and that's the situation we're seeing. last year to june 23rd, we've had record high numbers, 600,000. but the gross number arriving in the uk, 1.2 million people, those leaving is a much more tenuous number. watch the figures for the next 12 months and the student visa number, the student visa system is being completely abused. that's trebled in the last four years. these numbers we have got mass open border, lawful immigration,

and this country has never voted for that. i don't believe the majority of the country wants that. we want sensible controlled immigration that works for our country, where we've got genuine skill shortages we train up our shortages while we train up our own. so. >> so we're cheering the home secretary all agree >> so we're cheering the home sewasary all agree >> so we're cheering the home sewas a/ all agree >> so we're cheering the home sewas a good all agree >> so we're cheering the home sewas a good speech all agree it was a good speech and although rishi although you're saying rishi should further, is should have gone further, but is this genuine attempt to move this a genuine attempt to move the dial before the next general election this suella election or is this about suella braverman repositioning herself? if as the tories look like they're lose , i'm the they're going to lose, i'm the next leader. it could be bunch next leader. it could be a bunch of things. of those things. >> tories very good at >> the tories are very good at warm words , this sort of thing. warm words, this sort of thing. we've heard strong words before about controlling the boats , about controlling the boats, about controlling the boats, about cutting taxes, about all this . so it's whether or this stuff. so it's whether or not you can turn warm words into action. and i think that's where trust in politics from all from both main parties is under real threat because you get the words, but where's the action? where's the delivery that works for our people? >> you hear from amnesty and other refugee charities. they say people are on the move. that

is just the world that we're in. and any attempts to limit immigration? well it's very difficult . do you think in some difficult. do you think in some ways i tell you what, in some ways, our leaders have given up on trying to control our borders because of the number of people, the number of people who the sheer number of people who are the move, the 51 are on the move, the un 51 convention was drawn up by europeans to deal with the post war crisis in europe. >> yeah, if you suggest to citizens of europe and the united kingdom there's nothing we can do about it. anybody is welcome to come you are welcome to come in. you are going have serious problems. going to have serious problems. i think these these charities , i think these these charities, some fantastic work some of which do fantastic work , i think are in serious , i think they are in serious trouble here they do trouble here and they do themselves a great disservice if they don't recognise the legitimate concerns of hard working, taxpaying families and folk up and down this country. agree. >> and you know the script, richard, before they've even put the statement out, we absolutely knew what all these ragbag collection of so—called charities were to going say about braverman's speech . what

about braverman's speech. what do of her assertion in do you make of her assertion in that speech based on a figures she got from the centre for policy studies that 780 million migrants are on the move, potentially we are all going to come here, but potentially converging that converging on europe. is that a is that exaggeration? is that an exaggeration? >> imagine what that >> we can imagine what that number actually means. the point is know that millions are is we know that millions are on the know that the move and we know that hundreds and hundreds, of hundreds and hundreds, tens of millions we that millions and we know that hundreds of thousands are coming illegally into europe and potentially onto the united kingdom. and this has changed dramatically in the last few years . what i want people to do years. what i want people to do is focus what does this look like in 12, 24, 36 months time if this growth continues and no one does anything about it, that's what we've got to talk about. and we've got to deal with it. that's why i'm saying it's and you've got to it's urgent and you've got to amend it or you've got to make a real strong churchill like statement. we're out. the problem everyone who problem is, everyone people who are against suella braverman can leap on that number and say, that's absolutely absurd to say 780 million people. >> she'll say she based it from

a respected tank a very respected think tank which numbers. which had crunched the numbers. and are countries and there are 140 countries unked and there are 140 countries linked 1951 treaty. so linked to this 1951 treaty. so do do the maths. yeah, do the maths. >> what we know is this is not tenable. and we have to be honest with everybody. if this grows at the same rate or exponentially more, we have got major, major problems and the people will not put up with it. >> let's just ask you very briefly, the big political issue for the tories. well labour too. hs2 the northern link. i can't think for a second. richard tice they're to going announce this week we're abandoning the manchester link in the week. they're about to to they're about to go to manchester for the tory conference because the conference because even the tories, their handed tories, with their cack handed pr flattered pr. andrew i'm quite flattered because the tories because once again the tories are taking either are basically taking either fully or partly some of my policies and some of the policies and some of the policies that we've advocated. >> we've always said at reform scrap hs2 , it's a disaster and scrap hs2, it's a disaster and frankly, in business terms, the first loss is the best loss. the least tenable solution is to do

what they're suggesting , to run what they're suggesting, to run it from a suburb of london. no one's heard of to a suburb of birmingham. no one's ever heard of, frankly, scrap the lot, fill it in. what you've done and or otherwise , you've got to go otherwise, you've got to go through with it. but this is i mean, the numbers are near are approaching nearer 200 billion as opposed to 100 billion serious people are talking about this. afford it. we this. we can't afford it. we should be spending in should be spending the money in the north, liverpool, leeds , the north, liverpool, leeds, manchester, they should be newcastle, hull , all of that newcastle, hull, all of that across all of that. and that would be fantastic for the north. >> and even andy burnham would be happy with that. the mayor, andy happy, bless andy burnham, ever happy, bless him, but he'd be happier, be happier richard tice always a joy happier richard tice always a joy you'll you'll be joy and you'll be you'll be standing be in tonight, standing in i'll be in tonight, 7:00. it. 7:00. i'll look forward to it. >> look to that. >> i'll look forward to that. yes. well, going to yes. well, we're going to continue on hs2 train continue on on the hs2 train because mayors are because five labour mayors are set later. they're going set to meet later. they're going to to the prime to issue a plea to the prime minister to not scrap the hs2 link between birmingham and manchester. refused to manchester. so sunak refused to guarantee the hs2 line will make it to manchester. >> just days before the it to manchester. >> conference days before the it to manchester. >> conference which 3efore the it to manchester. >> conference which i'll re the it to manchester. >> conference which i'll have; tory conference which i'll have

the being at. yes the joy of being at. yes >> notably on yesterday's show, lord proposed lord berkeley proposed a staggering of around staggering estimate of around £180 billion. now, to complete the project, that's 80 billion more than the worst case scenario. the worst case scenario. the worst case scenario of 100 billion. and, you know, he could be right. the question on everyone's mind is it time to just scrap the lot? so joining us is to discuss this is conservative mp sir michael fabncant is conservative mp sir michael fabricant and chief executive of downton in business, frank mckenna . sir michael, should we mckenna. sir michael, should we start with you? thank you for joining us. am i right in thinking the government you thinking the government you think the government should cut their losses and just scrap the whole project? their losses and just scrap the wh(ie project? their losses and just scrap the wm don't ect? their losses and just scrap the wm don't think they'll scrap >> i don't think they'll scrap the whole project because so much construction has gone on already. it would cost even more to actually, you know , scrap the to actually, you know, scrap the whole project. but what i do think the government may well do is say, look, the phase one goes up to a place called handsacre, north of lichfield , past north of lichfield, past birmingham, and at that point it joins the west coast main line.

so scrap the rest of it , cut our so scrap the rest of it, cut our losses , really say just north of losses, really say just north of lichfield , which happens to be lichfield, which happens to be your constituency . your constituency. >> see. are you going to declare a very big interest here? >> i do. clare declare a very big interest. look, i used to be a chartered engineer when i paid my subscription, so have made my subscription, so i have made a real study of hs2 because it passes my constituency. originally hs2 was a brilliant idea until lord adonis when he was labour transport secretary, started to interfere with it. original only it was going to connect with the channel tunnel in paris . it connect with the channel tunnel in paris. it was going to go into birmingham , new street, into birmingham, new street, which would have made sense because that actually is a major interchange . it would have gone interchange. it would have gone into manchester piccadilly. in fact, it's going into the fact, now it's going into the standalone stations and the demand has fallen since covid. the number of people who hold season tickets has fallen . by season tickets has fallen. by about 3,840% because people aren't using the train as much.

the government's own estimates originally were that for every pound invested in hs2 would get £2.50 back. the latest estimate is for every pound invested amid the economy will get just £0.90 back. we have got to cut our losses. all right . losses. all right. >> well, let's bring frank mckenna in here. frank mckenna, i presume you fundamentally disagree with everything michael fabncant disagree with everything michael fabricant has just said . fabricant has just said. >> not everything , because i >> not everything, because i think the points he made about the original plan are well made. and i would support that. i'd also point out by the way, in terms of the west midlands, the mayor there, andy street, has been very critical of the government's approach to the whole project. and the claim that they may total scrap it this week. but what i would say is two things really. i think the government now looking like an administration that are fast running out of track, forgive the pun, and you know, they are

to long term investment in infrastructure for what laurence fox is to women's rights . you fox is to women's rights. you know, you've basically looking at talk about this figure, 100 billion or even £180 billion as though it's this huge figure that we're going to spend on a on a project that is literally going to last us a couple of weeks in 21, 23, 100 years from now , £180 billion would look now, £180 billion would look like a pity . like a pity. >> but hang on, frank. i've got to got to pick you up on that one. it was supposed. sorry, frank, but it was it was supposed to cost. it was supposed to cost. it was supposed to cost 30 billion. that has ballooned to 100 billion. surely surely you accept the argument that perhaps that money could be spent better? if we're looking at levelling up on local infrastructure projects, different train links at the moment it's just we're in this absurd situation , ian, where absurd situation, ian, where we're just pouring billions and billions into a project that may not have , you know, a good

not have, you know, a good business case any longer , business case any longer, believe it or not, which forgive my incredulity at the have we lost him? >> oh, no, we've lost frank mckenna . michael, you'll be mckenna. michael, you'll be delighted . oh, frank, we've got delighted. oh, frank, we've got you back. can you. can you try again with your answer? yes yeah , i was just saying, forgive my incredulity at the idea that the nonh incredulity at the idea that the north will be. >> now get in all this cash to improve our transport on off trains . now, improve our transport on off trains. now, on improve our transport on off trains . now, on occasions improve our transport on off trains. now, on occasions , improve our transport on off trains . now, on occasions , the trains. now, on occasions, the guy who's driving the train will actually say to us, pedal faster. you know, we're on victorian lines . and the problem victorian lines. and the problem with scrapping hs2 is that it's integral to actually improving the northern rail link as well. and if you all suggesting to me now that what we're going to do is go away and think of an alternative plan, i would ask you how long that's going to take. you're quite right. when this project was originally devised, it was costed at £30

billion. why have the cost spiralled? because it takes this country and absolute age to do any major infrastructure project . it's a disgrace. reform. the planning laws. stop playing into the nimby agenda and start building for the future and allow the north to contribute to the economy in the way that we want to. this is absolute disastrous for investment , for disastrous for investment, for business, for entrepreneurship , business, for entrepreneurship, for the north of england and you only have to, again, i'll say to michael, look at what the people who've just taken over birmingham city football club have said about a decision to reverse hs2 . they would not have reverse hs2. they would not have invested in that football club had they thought that this project wasn't going to go ahead. >> i'm not sure that's private sector have already paused. >> we're going to have to end it. there >> we've given you we've given you plenty of time to put your case. a lot of people case. i'm sure a lot of people will agree with you. others do see this as well. economic

will agree with you. others do see tis; as well. economic will agree with you. others do see tis that nell. economic will agree with you. others do see tis that that economic will agree with you. others do see tis that that was economic will agree with you. others do see tis that that was sir nomic case is that that was sir michael fabricant, the tory mp , michael fabricant, the tory mp, and frank mckenna, who's the chief executive downtown ipsis. >> thanks, guys, forjoining us. shows how is shows doesn't it, how this is going to now, those five going to rumble now, those five mayors meeting. mayors are meeting. they are. who they're sadiq mayors are meeting. they are. who the they're sadiq mayors are meeting. they are. who the mayor1ey're sadiq mayors are meeting. they are. who the mayor of 're sadiq mayors are meeting. they are. who the mayor of london.| mayors are meeting. they are. who the mayor of london. for khan, the mayor of london. for now, andy burnham, the king of the north, he's often the north, as he's often known, tracy she is yorkshire, tracy brabin, she is yorkshire, i think oliver coppard and steve rotherham is the mayor of liverpool. now, all five of those are labour mayors and they're trying plot a way to they're trying to plot a way to say minister not say the prime minister must not abandon hs2 northern link. we're just remind you, keir just going to remind you, keir starmer, he as an mp has starmer, when he as an mp has come out four square against the entire project on money and merit. he did. >> we'll show you that clip in just a few moments . the just a few moments. the temperature's rising, but next, solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news weather forecast . a latest news weather forecast. a disruptive day ahead. a storm

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newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and me, emily carver. >> yeah. now suella versus elton john.the >> yeah. now suella versus elton john. the rock stars taking on the home secretary after she is being gay is not a reason enough to claim asylum. we're going to bnng to claim asylum. we're going to bring update the bring you the update on the clash showbiz and clash between showbiz and politics all over migration as they could be in the society , they could be in the society, but not of the society . but not of the society. >> and in extreme cases , they >> and in extreme cases, they could pursue lives aimed at undermining the stability and threatening the security of our society . society. >> stay on track. five mayors gather in leeds to protest against reported plans to shelve high speed rail links to the north. the great mayor of manchester, great mayor andy burnham, isn't stopping the fight . fight. >> i'm going to lie down. except the way whitehall's always treated the north of england. we are fighting back. we're getting organised. we're to going organised. we're not to going take things down. so take things lying down. so they'll from us. they'll be hearing from us. >> so that's those five mayors are all labour party mayors . and

are all labour party mayors. and of course their view is in contrast leader, of course their view is in con keir leader, of course their view is in con keir starmer, leader, of course their view is in conkeir starmer, said leader, of course their view is in con keir starmer, said justier, of course their view is in conkeir starmer, said just in, sir keir starmer, said just in 2015. a listen to hs2 on 2015. have a listen to hs2 on cost and on merit. >> it will not achieve its stated objectives . stated objectives. >> well, if it didn't achieve any objective on cost or merit in 2015, it sure as hell doesn't how. >> now. >> yeah, it sure as hell doesn't now. very youthful keir starmer there. >> yeah, but a lot of weight, isn't it? don't wish to be unkind, but it's true. >> well, that's probably the stress of the job. >> most people lose >> yeah, well, most people lose weight stressed out. >> well, yeah, it's all flip flopping. >> exactly. and all those lunches dinners the lunches and dinners in the political lunches and dinners in the polanyway, we'd love to know >> anyway, we'd love to know what you think about keir starmer and his flip flopping or anything else. email us gb views at com but first, let's at gb news. com but first, let's get news headlines get the news headlines with rhiannon .

rhiannon. >> good morning. it's 10:02. >> good morning. it's10:02. your top story from the newsroom . five labour mayors from across the country have joined forces to urge the prime minister to stay on track with hs2 . they stay on track with hs2. they warn that the failure to deliver in full will leave swathes of the north with victorian transport infrastructure on fit for purpose. rishi sunak faces political backlash over reports he's considering axing the link between birmingham and manchester amid soaring costs with six former tory mps opposing cutting the line. former political director to bofis former political director to boris johnson, alex crowley says hs2 is no longer viable . hs2 is no longer viable. >> this is a disastrous project , but the costs have ballooned. we're now looking at about £100 billion to construct it. the highest paid public servant in the country and the whole country. who is it ? it's the guy country. who is it? it's the guy who heads hs2. country. who is it? it's the guy

who heads hs2 . who we've had mps who heads hs2. who we've had mps queuing up this week telling us about how awful it would be to scrap this project , etcetera. scrap this project, etcetera. these are the same mps that have added all the costs . and i don't added all the costs. and i don't think any responsible government can look at that and say, we'll continue giving it a blank check. >> the uk's largest untapped oil and gas field, rosebank in scotland, has been approved for development. that's despite a row over climate damage. the government says the plan has undergone an environmental impact assessment and will be in line with the natural decline of the north sea basin. greenpeace uk climate campaigner philip evans says rishi sunak has proven once and for all that he puts the profits of oil companies above everyday people. norwegian oil giant equinor expects rosebank to bring £8.1 billion in direct investment to the uk economy and is expected to start producing from 2026. the united nations has rejected

the home secretary's calls for international law on refugee is to be changed. in a speech in washington, suella braverman suggested the un 1951 refugee convention needs updating. she argues , fearing discrimination argues, fearing discrimination for being gay or a woman shouldn't be enough to qualify for international refugee protection. ms braverman says a misguided dogma of multiculturalism has allowed people to come to the uk with the aim of what she calls undermining the stability and threatening the security of society . lucy frazer, secretary society. lucy frazer, secretary of state for culture, media and sport , says it needs a global sport, says it needs a global solution in this is , as the home solution in this is, as the home secretary was saying , a global secretary was saying, a global issue that needs a global solutions . solutions. >> the u n solutions. >> the un has stated that since that by the end of 2022 there are 108 million people displaced . so we, as you will know, as a government are working very

carefully to make sure that we stop the boats coming over here through international solutions as . domestic abuse victims have as. domestic abuse victims have been exposed to their alleged abusers following several data breaches as families have had to be relocated after several organisations, including law firms, police and a government department, mishandled victims . department, mishandled victims. >> personal information lack of staffing and relaxed practise laws are blamed for the multiple leaks. the information commissioner's office is calling for stronger standards and policies as yellow weather warnings are in place for most of the uk from midday today. as storm agnes makes landfall , the storm agnes makes landfall, the coast is expected to be whipped by winds as high as 75mph. the royal national lifeboat institution are advising people to keep a safe distance from

water and cliff edges as high waves pose a potential threat to yellow rain. warnings will also be in place, covering areas of scotland . and whisky thought to scotland. and whisky thought to be possibly the oldest in the world, will be sold at auction for £10,000 a bottle. the tipple was found hidden in an attic space of blair castle in scotland . around 40 bottles are scotland. around 40 bottles are believed to have been distilled almost 200 years ago. whisky auctioneer as, say, the two dozen bottles for sale will likely have a more medicinal taste . if you can bring yourself taste. if you can bring yourself . to open one. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, industrial radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back over to andrew . emily andrew and. emily >> now this is a big highlight

for me and it's going to be a big highlight for viewers and listeners, news, because listeners, gb news, because jeffrey the studio jeffrey archer is in the studio with us. know, he british with us. you know, he is british author, former mp. author, life peer, former mp. his books have sold over 320 million. emily worldwide. >> his latest book, traitors gate, which i've got here actually, i've just been given a copy, is his first heist thriller since his first book. all those years ago. not a penny more. >> not a penny less now, jeffrey has written a book, and it's an extraordinary book because i've read it. it's all about how you steal the crown jewels. now, what's fascinating about this, jeffrey, is if you were on a cruise post—brexit, sorry, post covid around the british isles, you sit next to a woman at a dinner on the cruise, the usual bonng dinner on the cruise, the usual boring approach to someone saying, i know what you should write, saying to jeffrey archer, who's written world best who's written 30 odd world best sellers , i know what you should sellers, i know what you should write. within three minutes you were because she told you were hooked because she told you how could steal the crown how you could steal the crown jewels how you could steal the crown jewyes. it's absolutely >> yes. i mean, it's absolutely ridiculous, isn't it? you're >> yes. i mean, it's absolutely

ridicu right. sn't it? you're >> yes. i mean, it's absolutely ridicu right. people you're >> yes. i mean, it's absolutely ridicu right. people say�*re >> yes. i mean, it's absolutely ridicu right. people say every quite right. people say every day i go, i know your next bestseller, my life story . yeah. bestseller, my life story. yeah. ithen bestseller, my life story. yeah. i then say, have you murdered your wife? and they say no. oh, let me know when you have. yeah, but this one said, i can tell you to how steal the crown jewels, which is even worse because everybody knows the only time crown jewels has been time the crown jewels has been stolen was in 1671 when colonel blood fail . didn't even get out blood fail. didn't even get out of the tower . yeah, but then she of the tower. yeah, but then she then went and told me in then went on and told me in three minutes how to steal the crown jewels and then revealed that she was a member of the royal household. yeah. so i thought, oh, i didn't sleep that night . well, i know. night. well, i know. >> and before the end of the cruise, even though you were on houday cruise, even though you were on holiday with mary long suffering, written holiday with mary long sl30 ring, written holiday with mary long sl30 page written holiday with mary long sl30 page outline written holiday with mary long sl30 page outline for written holiday with mary long sl30 page outline for the 'itten holiday with mary long sl30 page outline for the book. a 30 page outline for the book. yes, yes , yes. yes, yes, yes. >> and when i got to the end of the first draft, andrew, i realised that the plot didn't work unless yes, i could produce a crown right . a crown right. >> you've got to produce. lift this up, jeffrey .

this up, jeffrey. >> shall i pass it to you? yeah. yeah >> because i'm going to put it on. >> i could produce a crown that you couldn't tell the difference. yes. >> so this is the thing is a replica of the 1937 imperial crown state. >> crown first worn by george the sixth. >> yes. >> yes. >> coronation. and then queen elizabeth. and then. then charles. the third. >> so this is. and you've got this made for the purpose of the book, i think. how many hours did take to have it made? did it take to have it made? >> took the very great craftsman, 300, 500 craftsman, alan guard 300, 500 hours to make it 17 months. oh, my god . my god. >> can i just say i've always wanted to wear a crown. no jokes, please, about being a queen. do think ? queen. what do you think? actually, you can now , of actually, you can now, of course, the one. the real one. where's where's five and a half pounds? this doesn't now that's the difference. >> andrew. and the only sentence. yeah yes, quite right . quite right. the only sentence the queen writes , as you know, the queen writes, as you know, it says in the whole book is when she picks it up. yeah. she

says , i've no doubt there's says, i've no doubt there's a simple explanation . simple explanation. >> yes. >> yes. >> because she now knows the real crown has been stolen . real crown has been stolen. yeah, because . yeah, because. >> and that it's not heavy enough. >> yeah, it's not exactly. because it's . because it's. >> it's been described as wearing the crown is like having a small baby on your head. >> yeah. yeah. and the queen used queen used to used to. the late queen used to have it sent to buckingham palace the night before the queen's she would queen's speech. and she would practise the queen's speech with it head. yeah, because it it on her head. yeah, because it was so heavy. so that she got used to the weight of it. and when she picks this one up, that's when she says there has to be. >> now, course, you obviously >> now, of course, you obviously you're going to give the you're not going to give the plot course you're plot away. no, of course you're not. it's an entirely not. but it's an entirely different of book you different sort of book for you because you've written or you've written is your police written your is your police inspector in this. yes >> oh, yes. my he's now a superinten . yeah, he's gone from superinten. yeah, he's gone from chief inspector to superintendent , as you know. superintendent, as you know. he's going up in every single. >> remind us his name. william. i live long enough.

>> he will be he metropolitan police commissioner. he will be commissioner of the metropolitan police. but i'm 83, so i'll have to live to 85, maybe 86, to make sure he gets to be commissioner . sure. but yes, you're quite right. this is different in the sense that having been given this remarkable story , i mean, i this remarkable story, i mean, i went to bed that night and thought, how did she spot it? none of us knew it. thought, how did she spot it? none of us knew it . and i none of us knew it. and i thought, of course there are such for it then, because you've got to make it work. the reader has got to believe it's possible to happen. so there are some, which was what i wanted to ask about. >> what do you want to ask? >> what do you want to ask? >> how do you go about researching to make a book like this to write a book like this, it must take days, hours, months. >> yes, it . >> yes, it. »- >> yes, it. >> how long does it take? >> how long does it take? >> you're quite right. >> you're quite right. >> it takes hours and it needed three things. one, one, there are six routes between buckingham palace and the tower of london. i had to walk all

six, right? because i had to pick the one that my her idea. right. would work. and of course, you won't tell us which one it was. then on the second piece of research is the tower itself, because you have to know when the crown comes out . when when the crown comes out. when the crown goes in, who's in charge? what happens? and of course, the tower of london is absolutely safe as houses , no absolutely safe as houses, no doubt about that. and the third was, i got in touch with a retired yeoman of the guard and said , and i need the following said, and i need the following questions answered , and he questions answered, and he answered every one of them. so the research has been done . the research has been done. >> you've now written a book telling people how you can steal the crown. are you not concerned as a monarchist , a royalist, a as a monarchist, a royalist, a patriot , that somebody's going patriot, that somebody's going to think, thank you very much, lord archer of weston super mare. i'm now going to pinch the jewels. yes. is the king going to say only the person to say not only that, the person who told me how to do it , to say not only that, the person who told me how to do it, i went to them and said, can i please

say who you are? >> i'll add to the authentic city. >> no, they said, i didn't really think you'd it. really think you'd do it. >> i looked >> no, because i looked throughout the book. you've kept her a secret? her identity a secret? >> . kept secret. >> absolutely. kept it a secret. she didn't want anything to do with she didn't want anything to do witinow , what i'm not clear is did. >> did do did the senior royals before they've read this book, would have known would they have known the easiest way crown jewels easiest way for the crown jewels to yeah they knew to be pinched? yeah they knew when the book, they're when they read the book, they're going to say, oh, wow . going to say, oh, wow. >> i think i think what might be true is that they'll have to relook at security . do you think relook at security. do you think so? i'm admittedly , the book is so? i'm admittedly, the book is set in 2002 or so. they may have deau set in 2002 or so. they may have dealt with security by then , but dealt with security by then, but i've found a way of stealing the most valuable object . the real most valuable object. the real thing is worth £3 billion. the cullinan two diamond, which is. >> which one is that? >> which one is that? >> it's in the front. this one. and the henry ruby cullinan diamond is thought to be worth 300 million. the the henry the fifth ruby, which he wore at

agincourt court, is thought to be worth 100 million. and there's 2816 diamonds and something you you are old proud englishmen were like that was made by an english craftsman aged 87 who's been at it since the age of 14 when he worked for aspers . and here he took him 500 aspers. and here he took him 500 hours. it's a it's a well done britain. you can still produce. >> what are you going to do with it? >> i'm going to i'm going to sell it for charity. it will go to my wife's hospital. the new hospital she's building for our children, children's hospital in cambridge. for the mind and the body. cambridge. for the mind and the body . right. cambridge. for the mind and the body. right. and christie's are going to auction it, are they? >> you're not going to. they've already seen it. you're not going to you're not going to be the auctioneer. >> i not be the auctioneer. >> i will not be the auctioneer. i'm auctioneer, i'm an amateur auctioneer, geoffrey phibbs. >> raised 25 million >> he's raised over 25 million as auctioneer. oh you as an auctioneer. oh have you now? has. now? yeah, he really has. >> so fibbing? yeah, he's. >> so he's fibbing? yeah, he's. >> so he's fibbing? yeah, he's. >> you got the >> so when you got the commission, you got the

commission, you got the commission make crown. commission to make this crown. this. he was this. this chap. he was reluctant at first because of the scale project. the scale of the project. >> we went down >> well, he went. we went down to tower together looked to the tower together and looked at thing and. and he at the real thing and. and he thought, you know, this is not going to be easy. and the first thing he did when he decided he would do it, what you can't see there, andrew, that he had to there, andrew, is that he had to do the thing without any jewellery and get the shape right with the and then he had to take it apart again . amazing to take it apart again. amazing because there's 42 sections as incredible before and he puts each of the jewellery in there . each of the jewellery in there. then he put it back together again . again. >> is this is the real crown? is it? in short, it's not possible i >> -- >> surely 5mm >> surely you couldn't insure something worth 3 billion? no. so this. but you couldn't sell it. >> so if you. well, that was the other point. i was going to say. you've if you owned it, if you were stolen, it. andrew, your book shows how you pinched the crown doesn't say crown jewels, but it doesn't say what then do with crown what you then do with the crown or why them.

or why he stole them. >> no. is that a follow up? >> no. is that a follow up? >> sequel? >> is that a sequel? >> is that a sequel? >> oh, no, no , no. he's being >> oh, no, no, no. he's being very mischievous here. no no . very mischievous here. no no. >> this is the best book you've ever written. >> well, the public. the public. what? >> cane enables your. yes >> cane enables your. yes >> public have said cain and abel . 100 million people have abel. 100 million people have read cain and abel. how does that feel knowing that that many people have read your very great honour? it's a very great every day my life. says, day of my life. someone says, i read it 30 years ago. i read it 20 years ago. i read it. it's still sells quarter of a million a many times has it a year. how many times has it been a year. how many times has it bee geoffrey? how many >> geoffrey? sorry how many times been reissued? cain times has it been reissued? cain and . and abel. >> it's 132nd reprint. >> it's on. it's132nd reprint. amazing isn't it? >> emily? that is amazing. yes >> emily? that is amazing. yes >> to ask you before >> we've got to ask you before we go, because this book we let you go, because this book is racing the of is already racing to the top of the sellers, traitor's gate the best sellers, traitor's gate . it's number one already. >> came yesterday. >> and it came out yesterday. >> and it came out yesterday. >> already >> yes. yes. yeah, it's already number one. >> and, of course, a of >> and, of course, a lot of people now, jeffrey, read your books yes. which is books on a kindle. yes. which is all listen to it on on audio . all listen to it on on audio. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and do you get actor to do

>> and do you get an actor to do it or do you do it yourself an actor it, though. actor does it, though. >> hit a very sore point. >> you hit a very sore point. andrew a i oh yeah. my publisher came to me and said, if you read just one chapter, jeffrey , we just one chapter, jeffrey, we can do all 27 of your all 27 out of a job. so an actor came to me and said, please don't do that. jeffrey particularly the wife had some pretty famous actors doing my books , and they quite doing my books, and they quite rightly point out that every one of them will be out of work. >> yeah, don't do that. no. now talking of out of work, we must ask you about politics before we let you go. is rishi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe u go. is rishi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out). is rishi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out ofs rishi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out of arishi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out of a jobi sunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out of a job asunak going ask you about politics before we letbe out of a job as prime oing to be out of a job as prime minister the next general minister after the next general election? your view? you've election? in your view? you've been tory, been watching politics, tory, politics been watching politics, tory, politithink it depends >> i think it depends on scotland. i have long thought that if the snp collapse and keir starmer can get 30 seats, certainly 20, but he's only got one at the moment, one correct. if he could get 20, that would make a difference . but if they

make a difference. but if they strengthen up again, you have to remember andrew, yes, the conservative party won by 80 and it sounds a lot, but they beat the labour party by 152. it's 152 seats. you have to turn oven 152 seats. you have to turn over, not 80. now, i'm not saying they won't do it. the odds are that they will, but it ain't quite as easy as it looks. >> and do you think starmer, do you think sunak has raised his game a bit in the last couple of weeks? whether it's whether weeks? whether it's on, whether you not? net zero. you agree or not? net zero. we've the big intervention we've got the big intervention by secretary on by the home secretary on immigration. by the home secretary on ieres,|tion. by the home secretary on ieres, i on. by the home secretary on ieres, i sat next to at >> yes, i sat next to at breakfast this morning to the man of the next man in charge of the next campaign at number 10, and he asked me exactly the same question. and i'm bound to say i thought the net zero. he sounded right on top of it. and what i admire , ed, was he clearly has admire, ed, was he clearly has a grasp for detail, unlike boris johnson, no comment. but but it was what margaret had, of course , margaret had a wonderful grasp for detail. and i, i don't know

sunak, but i watched him on television and listened to him on radio four the next morning. should be listening to what? right on top of it. you clearly read all the he does. >> he does . what about do you >> he does. what about do you approve of suella message yesterday in washington? multiculturalist >> i haven't taken it in yet . >> i haven't taken it in yet. >> i haven't taken it in yet. >> you haven't taken it in. >> you haven't taken it in. >> it's been publication day and quite strange she says the refu refugee convention is no longer fit for purpose. well, i'll have to think about that . to think about that. >> oh, you'll have to think about it. >> but let tell you, jack >> but let me tell you, jack straw, when he home straw, when he was home secretary said exactly secretary in 2000, said exactly the yes, he did . the same. did he? yes, he did. done the homework. yes, he did. and good home and he was a very good home secretary. was we're running secretary. he was we're running out time. jeffrey how do you out of time. jeffrey how do you just last thing, how do you get up every morning? that stuff, that great enthusiasm for the writing problem, you weren't you two youngsters and you in particular won't have got anywhere near this. >> i'm a person. i'm >> but i'm losing a person. i'm 83. i'm losing a person a week now . i've got friends 83. i'm losing a person a week now. i've got friends and

things. i went to a memorial service and a funeral last week. and so i get up at 530 every morning and i work 6 to 8 every single day for two hours. so i get 700 hours a year work done before most people have got to work . i know because i am i say work. i know because i am i say it out loud on this program. fearful of death. so i go on working . i will not stop. working. i will not stop. >> well, no , we don't want you >> well, no, we don't want you to because william morris has got to become chief commissioner of police. of the metropolitan police. >> police. of the metropolitan police. >> iolice. of the metropolitan police. >> i feel. of the metropolitan police. >> i feel i know him. >> i feel i know him. >> yes, quite right. >> i feel i know him. >> yes, i uite right. >> i feel i know him. >> yes, i uite him.. >> and i like him. >> and i like him. >> yes, quite right . >> yes, quite right. >> yes, quite right. >> so you're up at the crack of dawn before even and you get writing that first two days. first two hours. >> and let me tell you, you cannot when he's cannot interrupt him when he's writing two hour writing for those two hour blocks. only time blocks. i think the only time you interrupted you you were interrupted is when you got mrs. thatcher got the call that mrs. thatcher had got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwhen thatcher. they've got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwiinterrupt thatcher. they've got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwiinterrupt me:cher. they've got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwiinterrupt me when they've got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwiinterrupt me when i'mi've got the call that mrs. thatcher hacwiinterrupt me when i'm in; never interrupt me when i'm in that two hours. they interrupted when my second son got when me when my second son got four place at four a—levels and a place at oxford. forgave them for that. oxford. i forgave them for that. yeah, interrupted yeah, they interrupted me when margaret . you're

margaret thatcher died. you're quite right, because they're very kindly. they're very kindly. let me know an hour ahead. it was before it was announced so that i could be prepared for having had the privilege of working for 11 years with that great lady. they gave me an hour's advance notice so that i was prepared. yeah. >> very good , geoffrey. good >> very good, geoffrey. good luck with the book. it's already top of the bestsellers, by the way. he thinks he's this way. he thinks he's keeping this crown. he's not, because i rather like it. i think i think it suits me, geoffrey. i think it suits me, geoffrey. i think it suits me, geoffrey. i think it suits me. and this is the book. there is. traitors book. there it is. traitors gate, dubai. it is a belter. and i bias i do speak some bias because i like all geoffrey's books. but it cracker. yes. and it is a cracker. yes. and the crown fabulous. it is a cracker. yes. and the cro'the fabulous. it is a cracker. yes. and the cro'the crown ous. it is a cracker. yes. and the cro'the crown can stay. it's >> the crown can stay. it's still to come. our political editor is going to give his political and the political reaction and the political reaction and the political reaction and the political reaction to the speech from suella braverman yesterday . news, britain's news . well, gb news, britain's news . channel that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud

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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> we're all a flutter after jeffrey archer. of course we are. well well, i've known you. i've known jeffrey for 30 years. and he was a very young thing when i first knew jeffrey. the time is 1027. >> a spare part there. but i thought i'd let you take the. you take the floor. >> you wanted the crown. i want it. >> i wore the dress, you know, so things don't just happen. yeah, but. >> but, but, but it was the great segway. it's not very hefty , jeffrey. that's in hefty, jeffrey. that's how in the book she knew it had been pinched. now are talking pinched. now what are we talking about? talking the about? we're talking about the reaction secretary's reaction to the home secretary's speech. reaction to the home secretary's speech . it's predictably

speech. it's been predictably toxic let's talk to toxic on the left. let's talk to our editor , our political editor, christopher hope, who's at westminster . christopher is he westminster. christopher is he there ? he's there somewhere. there? he's there somewhere. well you'll just have to talk to me. i mean, here he is. there you are. christopher. christopher she will be delighted with this reaction, won't she? united nations are furious. elton john's furious. yeah but any politician that makes these big a speech that runs on the front pages of newspapers , two days running, newspapers, two days running, going into the speech and wanted delivered knows they've hit a hit, a hit, a hit, some kind of mark in terms of making a mark. >> i think that she'll be it was one of the most outspoken speeches from home secretary had for a while. it took aim both at the government's failure to tackle small boats, 50,000 or so arriving every year, people arriving every year, people arriving by small boats across the channel. but i think more interestingly is you use the term uncontrolled immigration. and you and emily, she talked there about it poses an existential challenge the existential challenge to the west there how we

west and she talks there how we need 200, 213 000 more school places compared with 2020. now thatis places compared with 2020. now that is a direct criticism of the current prime minister and previous prime ministers because this idea of net migration was running over 600,000 in the year to march in the year to june last year. those are numbers which are allowed by the government now . brexit was meant government now. brexit was meant to give you back control over the our leaders the borders, but our leaders believe that that net migration at that level is okay. and that's what she's talking about i >> christopher there seems to be a a disconnect between a bit of a disconnect between what suella braverman is saying there on the international stage and her rhetoric up till now on immigration. and as you say, government policy are the public going to be happy enough just to hear this stuff without action being taken? yeah and yes, emily, you're right. >> she's been the tories have beenin >> she's been the tories have been in power for 13 years. i mean , suella braverman used to mean, suella braverman used to run a podcast in a previous life and she told me last october the home secretary , she wants to cut home secretary, she wants to cut net migration to tens of

thousands. well, it's currently running 600,000 and running at 600,000 a year. and thatis running at 600,000 a year. and that is uncontrolled. and she knows that. so the issue of small boats is almost a symptom of a bigger malaise at the heart of a bigger malaise at the heart of it. and the what she's warning about is the wider impact on british culture. people see their communities changing rapidly . they feel changing rapidly. they feel they've got no voice it. they've got no voice over it. that's what that's drove that's what that's what drove the brexit a large the vote on brexit to a large extent. and it worrying extent. and it is worrying communities the country. communities around the country. and that's what she's tapping into the bigger of into. the bigger picture, of course, if the polls are as course, is if the polls are as they are, if the tories lose election expected expected next yean election expected expected next year, she'll be well in the year, then she'll be well in the frame to be the leader the frame to be the leader of the right caucus to try and right wing caucus to try and start running the tory party >> chris dare i dare i suggest that been part of the that may have been part of the motivation is motivation for her speech or is that being little too cynical ? >> 7- >> you've 7— >> you've been ? >> you've been around 7 >> you've been around for too long in political journalism , long in political journalism, andrew i'm sure. i mean , i was andrew i'm sure. i mean, i was with number 10 people last night. they said that that speech had been signed off. they were relaxed about it. one of them joked that she's a team

player and laughed. i think there are two things happening here. i think her being able to say that i does give the say that i think does give the pm room for whatever he might say next week at the party conference and we're conference and fact we're looking the party looking into the party conference, language conference, the kind of language you washington you saw in washington is what you saw in washington is what you hear at the party you might hear at the party conference. the faithful not in not if take not in america. and if you take a back, what's happened a step back, what's happened just so far month , the pm just so far this month, the pm rishi didn't go to the un rishi sunak didn't go to the un general assembly. the first pm did not do so for many years . general assembly. the first pm did not do so for many years. i sat that one out instead rowed back on net zero commitments and has now sent the home secretary to to say wants to to america to say she wants to renegotiate the 1951 un convention on human rights. it's quite it's punchy stuff , even quite it's punchy stuff, even for this pm, who hasn't been a very political in recent months i >> -- >> it is indeed. it'll be interesting to see how the labour party respond to this because they've got to be careful . know are careful. they know people are angry about levels of angry about the levels of immigration. thank you immigration. ian but thank you very for your very much for your time. christopher political edhon >>i edhon >> i don't think they get just quite how angry people about quite how angry people are about immigration every time you

immigration. and every time you hear a labour spokesman attacking this, they have no alternative plan and they never seem many people are seem to say to many people are coming and they are they are coming. >> tory mps, you know, commenting the papers, some commenting in the papers, some anonymously commenting in the papers, some anonymouslwith anything suella don't agree with anything suella braverman divisive stuff, braverman said, divisive stuff, etcetera , etcetera. etcetera, etcetera. >> m any etcetera, etcetera. >> many of and anyway >> not many of them. and anyway , have a punch >> not many of them. and anyway , about have a punch >> not many of them. and anyway , about it. have a punch >> not many of them. and anyway , about it. good have a punch >> not many of them. and anyway , about it. good because punch >> not many of them. and anyway , about it. good because she:h up about it. good because she bravoman is on the side of the angels on this. >> yes. well, is keir starmer in detention, the head of the labour leader's old school warns that labour's plans to impose vat on private schools is a disappointing distraction . disappointing distraction. interesting intervention there? absolutely let's news absolutely let's get the news with rhiannon . with rhiannon. >> good morning. it's 1032. with rhiannon. >> good morning. it's1032. your top stories from the newsroom . top stories from the newsroom. the uk's largest untapped oil and gas field, rosebank in scotland has been approved for development. that's despite a row over climate damage. the government says the plans undergone an environmental impact assessment and will be in line with the natural decline of

the north sea basin. norwegian oil giant equinor expects rosebank to bring over £8 billion in direct investment to the uk economy and is expected to start producing from 2026 . to start producing from 2026. five labour mayors from across the country have met in leeds to urge the prime minister to stay on track with hs2 . they warn the on track with hs2. they warn the failure to deliver in full will leave swathes of the north with victorian infrastructure unfit for purpose . rishi sunak faces for purpose. rishi sunak faces political backlash over reports he's considering axing the link between birmingham and manchester for amid soaring costs . the united nations has costs. the united nations has rejected the home secretary's calls for international law on refugees to be changed. in a speech in washington, suella braverman suggested the un 1951 refugee convention needs updating. she argues , fearing updating. she argues, fearing discrimination for being gay or a woman shouldn't be enough to

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>> patrick christys weekdays from three on gb news choose . from three on gb news choose. >> it's 1038 on britain's newsroom >> it's1038 on britain's newsroom with andrew pearson and ed it's actually coming up to 11 am. emily carver there you go. a.m. emily carver there you go. >> shall we go to some emails? i think you should time for some emails on the suella braverman speech. said. and if speech. billy said. and if you're which you you're gay, which i am, you don't cross several don't need to cross several liberal countries to liberal european countries to claim liberal european countries to claiwell said, is quite an

>> well said, which is quite an interesting one. >> actually quite a few >> i've actually had quite a few from gay men who said from from gay men who said they're not offended by what? >> well, i'm not offended in the slightest bit, but what else have we got, william says, hi, emily. >> thank you. you're the first person in the media i've heard to put the blame squarely on tony blair for throwing open the doors in 19 what he did. well, there we yes, the there we go. yes, but the conservatives are just as just as really? as bad, aren't they, really? well let in and they'll well he let him in and they'll let in even more. >> but but the tories have just not sorted it out. no they haven't. >> no they haven't. in fact they've actually accelerated it at time as saying at the same time as saying they're which i think is they're tough, which i think is almost worse in some ways anyway. move on? yeah, anyway. should we move on? yeah, because the uk's largest untapped has been untapped oil field has been approved by regulators. rosebank 80 miles west of shetland, is estimated to contain 500 million barrels of oil . barrels of oil. >> yeah, the government says it will raise billions of pounds and make us more secure against tyrants like putin. well, that sounds like good news. liam

halligan is our business editor and economics editor for my sins , this is huge , huge step , this is huge, huge step fonnard. but how does this fit in with all the dash to net zero? >> well, this is the uk's largest untapped field that we know of because, of course, there may be others that we don't know of, but it's a major field. i've got some details here, as i say, is the largest untapped oil and gas field in the north sea. it's 80 miles west shetland islands. west of the shetland islands. the involved here are the companies involved here are the state nonnegian energy giant equinor and the uk's private company, ithaca energy. we're looking at 350 million barrels of oil over the lifetime of this field. what does that mean? that's about three and a half days. use for the whole world. the world uses about 100 million barrels of oil a day. but that's quite from one from one quite chunky from one from one field. looking at £8 field. and we're looking at £8 billion of investment and we're looking jobs. and looking at about 2000 jobs. and you say, how does it tie with net zero? well, even the climate change commission, which is the government's kind in—house government's kind of in—house source, , conscience, if

source, you know, conscience, if you like, on on climate issues , you like, on on climate issues, it's a it's a statutory body . it's a it's a statutory body. it's got legal powers to advise publicly the government to and push the government in certain directions. even the climate change commission admits this, that we use 70% of our energy at the moment is oil, right? when you think of transport, yeah. but across the piece it's going to be 50% by 2030 at best, and it's going to be 25% by 2050 at best. these are on really optimistic take up rates and efficiency rates for renewable energy and so on. so if we still using a lot of oil and a lot of gas, gas of course, is 40% of our electricity generation in in 2050, it makes so much more sense to use our own oil and gas because there's a lower carbon footprint at the moment . what footprint at the moment. what we're doing, we're not using russian gas. north sea gas has dropped off. we're importing lng , liquefied natural gas from the us . now the energy you need to us. now the energy you need to get that gas no turn it into a

liquid massively energy intensive, stick it in a diesel powered tanker. right. 3000 miles to milford haven , regasify miles to milford haven, regasify it. i mean, it's completely mad when we've got our own gas in the north sea. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so. and is there a big hue and cry from the environmental lobby about it? >> there is caroline lucas has said this is morally repugnant. she's green party's main she's the green party's main only, only mp obviously you know greenpeace. and so on. they think this is completely outrageous, interesting, interesting , though there she is interesting, though there she is giving the green light to this huge new oil field is morally obscene, says caroline lucas . obscene, says caroline lucas. interestingly, though, andrew and emily, this is quite clever politics because it really corners the snp . hamza yusuf corners the snp. hamza yusuf says he wants to make aberdeen the energy capital of europe, of course, into the net zero capital of the world. a lot of voters on that east coast don't like that. a lot of the best jobs in scotland are in the oil and gas industry. and then interestingly also this puts labour corner because

labour in a corner because you've got, you know, gary smith , who runs the a very , who runs the gmb, a very astute leader of britain's third biggest union. he absolutely he backs new oil fields. it's loads ofjobs backs new oil fields. it's loads of jobs for the gmb , lots of of jobs for the gmb, lots of jobs. and he makes the point that actually it's more climate friendly. the uk must be honest about where we're going to get the gas we need to take to us 2050 and beyond, says gary smith, taking responsibility for more of our own gas supply or support both support good union jobs. both directly wider supply directly and in the wider supply chain. so look, particularly for laboun chain. so look, particularly for labour. labour have got their university town rather effete. she she tote bag carrying waitrose frequenting voters , waitrose frequenting voters, right? yeah. but they've also got a lot of blue collar voters in the red bull and they've got blue collar voters in scotland and they want to know re—establish scotland as the key to a majority at westminster. it's really difficult to know what keir starmer can say about this. >> how is he going to play this? >> how is he going to play this? >> and also there's a by—election coming up in scotland absolutely

scotland. absolutely by—election, they think by—election, which they think they've win because the they've got to win because the snp because they've got to win because the snp broke because they've got to win because the snp broke covid because they've got to win because the snp broke covid rules. ecause they've got to win because the snp broke covid rules. we've she broke the covid rules. we've obviously got the tory leadership contest coming. >> the tory >> i think that's the tory conference think a lot conference coming. i think a lot of suella braverman has of what suella braverman has been popular very much been doing popular is very much pre—empting that, but also we've got a lot of politics now . rishi got a lot of politics now. rishi sunakis got a lot of politics now. rishi sunak is finally doing some politics. he's doing his 2032, 20, 35 ban with cars. he's boldly a very opportune moment saying we want this new oil field. i think a lot of there'll be a lot of fire and brimstone and fury from the one nation tories and a lot of the broadcast media and so on. but i think a silent majority of people across the country will say this might on your sunday, this even some of our this might even cut some of our fuel maybe, maybe. fuel bills. yeah, maybe, maybe. >> that great the >> wouldn't that be great in the in years come? in the years to come? >> well, certainly good for >> well, it's certainly good for energy it's energy security. it's interesting think interesting because i think keir starmer rayner starmer wants angela rayner to sort of issues with sort these kind of issues with the deputy. yeah. but the his deputy. yeah, yeah. but he's have to come out he's going to have to come out and say you already got pushed on well she stop

and say you already got pushed on and well she stop and say you already got pushed on and shenell she stop and say you already got pushed on and she getsshe stop and say you already got pushed on and she gets funding stop and say you already got pushed on and she gets funding from oil and she gets funding from a trade her office. trade union, her office. >> have to have nod >> so she'll have to have a nod to very interesting what to that very interesting what gary smith has been saying. >> thanks, liam. thank you very gary smith has been saying. >> thindeed.am. thank you very gary smith has been saying. >> thindeed. liam hank you very gary smith has been saying. >> thindeed. liam halligan, very much indeed. liam halligan, our economics editor. right. right well, where well, back to rosebank. no where are we going? emails? where are our read our emails? you're going to read them well go them out, right? okay. well go on. what's the weather? on. well, what's the weather? this is quite interesting. brian says if elton john has such strong views people coming strong views on people coming into uk, he could into the uk, surely he could take into mansions take hundreds into his mansions and them with his or he and fund them with his or he could them his he could bring them in on his he could bring them in on his he could bring them in on his he could bring in could bring them in in his private yeah yeah, he private jet. yeah. yeah yeah, he could. he could. and in his various holiday homes i think he's got south. he has , he's got one in south. he has, he's got one in south. he has, he does. what else is saying. sally says the home secretary has had the guts to say what he has had the guts to say what he has needed to said hinckley. good for her. yes, it's all well and good. saying these things, though, isn't it? i wonder if this speech it or this speech has made it more or less likely that the refugee convention will be changed? well as richard tice said, if they don't change it, we could always withdraw from it . withdraw from it. >> well, which we segway

perfectly into. the former labour mp stephen pound joining us studio . and emma us in the studio. and emma wolf is here, too. hello to you both. stephen i was pointing out that jack straw was the first home secretary to say this convention needs rewriting. well yeah, he didn't say it needs to be thrown out. no, but he didn't need . out. no, but he didn't need. i've got it in front of me. it was in the year about 2000, i think. he did. he said we think. yeah, he did. he said we need to have more rational need to have a more rational basis on how we with basis on how we deal with refugees , too refugees because too many, too many of them were, in his view , many of them were, in his view, economic refugees . does that economic refugees. does that sound familiar? he was speaking. speaking for the perspective of the mp for particularly the time i think it's blackburn. i think he and you he was the time. and if you remember before that, remember just before that, there was brouhaha because he was a great brouhaha because he had a constituent to had asked a constituent to remove veil because he said remove her veil because he said he couldn't to he couldn't talk to her. >> so i think he was making a comment not about throwing the whole thing out and abandoning it, simply that we it, but simply saying that we need look at the need to actually look at the impact and suella impact of it. and i think suella braverman i think 99% of what she yesterday risible. she said yesterday was risible. 1% actually quite important, 1% was actually quite important,

which 1% that was which which was the 1% that was important. one thing that's important. the one thing that's important. the one thing that's important volume important is the sheer volume in europe , and that europe as a continent, and that we're not just talking about, you know, the figures in this country, in the whole of europe, when talking about over when you're talking about over 100 people, then 100 million people, then inevitably that has a vast impact. there's no away impact. there's no getting away from that. >> do you think 99% of >> emma, do you think 99% of what was risible ? no, i what she said was risible? no, i don't. i think that a lot don't. and i think that a lot probably it, you probably about 99% of it, as you guys pointed resonated guys have pointed out, resonated with absolutely many people. >> 100. a lot of >> absolutely. 100. a lot of pubuc >> absolutely. 100. a lot of public opinion . public opinion. >> yes. she maybe had an unfortunate you know, she used some unfortunate phrases, but i think a, she's certainly think that, a, she's certainly geafing think that, a, she's certainly gearing up. >> she's setting out her stall ahead tory party ahead of the tory party conference, which is interesting. that interesting. but i think that she's making the point that this is not sustainable for this country. know this is not country. we know this is not sustainable. even before we talk about continent of europe about the continent of europe and hundreds of millions of and the hundreds of millions of people on move, i think people on the move, i think that, know, we need have that, you know, we need to have this discussion a grown this discussion in a grown up way. simply call way. and when you simply call people xenophobic and people racist and xenophobic and appalling unkind of appalling and unkind and all of the today's the all of the today's headlines. yeah just

headlines. yeah it's just not helpful. it doesn't move us helpful. and it doesn't move us on been attacked also on and she's been attacked also , hasn't she, for saying multiculturalism isn't working and very senior labour and yet very senior labour people been saying that for people have been saying that for a your a long time, including your former leader tony blair, former heroic leader tony blair, who it as recently as 2019. who said it as recently as 2019. >> but this tomorrow morning at 9:30, i'll be actually handing out british citizenship certificates to people in my borough. >> you know, as a past mayor, i do that and i have to say, some of the most patriotic people i've ever met life are the i've ever met in my life are the people come to this people who've come to this country. when you think about people who've come to this coujewish hen you think about people who've come to this coujewish multiculturalism out the jewish multiculturalism isn't working, stephen, i'm sorry. working . sorry. i think it is working. i'm think you've just i'm sorry. i think you've just london is. well, no, i think we need to drill down into what people mean by multiculturalism because braverman because suella braverman does not that multiracial society. >> that's right. different cultures within it is what's not working. it's the existence of different cultures not integrating with one another. >> that's exactly right. >> that's exactly right. >> not integrating. pointless to say look at the cabinet. >> the cabinet is so multiracial. that's not the point. totally missing multiracial. that's not the poirpoint. totally missing multiracial. that's not the poirpoint. she'sally missing multiracial. that's not the poirpoint. she's talkingssing multiracial. that's not the poirpoint. she's talking about the point. she's talking about communities. the point. she's talking about comianities. the point. she's talking about

com in them, stephen where live in them, stephen where people integrated, made people have not integrated, made no effort. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> you know southall? you >> do you know southall? you know right ? know where i live, right? >> well, you must. >> well, you must. >> well, you must. >> well, have integrated >> well, have they integrated you see, they've integrated. >> and >> they've not assimilate. and that's difference. that's the key difference. they've because they they've integrated because they obey same that do. obey the same laws that we do. i mean, issues, as is mean, there are issues, as is happening leicester. we know happening in leicester. we know that inter—communal that there are inter—communal problems, but ultimately these are people who've not assimilated, lost are people who've not assinindividuality lost are people who've not assinindividuality and lost are people who've not assinindividuality and notst are people who've not assinindividuality and not lost their individuality and not lost their individuality and not lost their culture. they brought it to country. they've added to this country. they've added spice country. to this country. they've added spitbut country. to this country. they've added spitbut comeven if we >> but stephen, even if we put that aside, multiculture tourism >> but stephen, even if we put that whetheriulticulture tourism >> but stephen, even if we put that whether orticulture tourism >> but stephen, even if we put thatwhether or notture tourism >> but stephen, even if we put that whether or not turewantism and whether or not we want people to become completely 100% british, the sheer british, what about the sheer numbers? about fact numbers? what about the fact that see, nhs, that the country see, the nhs, for example, on its for example, is or is on its knees, as keep hearing? what knees, as we keep hearing? what about how are we meant to about that? how are we meant to cope? schools and schools on their knees? how are we meant to cope with thousands and thousands thousands new thousands and thousands of new arrivals thousands and thousands of new arri but every anybody says >> but every time anybody says that, of enoch that, i always think of enoch powell secretary of powell and his secretary of state for health, going around begging, begging people to come from staff from the west indies to staff our hospitals. can we move? >> brings enoch >> don't always brings enoch powell this. no, was powell into this. no, no. he was begging people come here and begging people to come here and

work and education systems. >> health our education >> our health and our education systems already struggling >> our health and our education systwthere's already struggling >> our health and our education systwthere's noteady struggling >> our health and our education systwthere's not enough uggling >> our health and our education systwthere's not enough houses. and there's not enough houses. housing exactly. we could go. >> i think it's what about job vacancies? because i think suella braverman, if we take her by her words , i think it's very by her words, i think it's very clear she is deeply worried clear that she is deeply worried about social cohesion . and a lot about social cohesion. and a lot of journalists who live in london, they experience all the fantastic things about living in a society where there are different cultures and to some extent it can be a melting pot. but we do know that in in some northern towns , in some areas of northern towns, in some areas of london and across our cities , london and across our cities, many towns living side many coastal towns living side by side, and separately. you by side, by and separately. you can even one school that's can even have one school that's entirely white. and then on the next there's school next road, there's a school that's minority that's entirely ethnic minority . and that not good, i don't . and that is not good, i don't think, and think think, for society. and i think it's that suella braverman it's good that suella braverman mentions this and i don't think it her some racist bigot . it makes her some racist bigot. >> but yeah, but i never called her a racist bigot. >> what you said, what she said was do. stand by that. she's >> i do. i stand by that. she's been accused racism a lot been accused of racism by a lot of well, not from your party.

>> well, not from your party. >> well, not from your party. >> i don't throw those words around because those around a bit because those words, sensible. words, that's sensible. they lose value if you just lose all their value if you just trot them every 5 or 6 trot them out every 5 or 6 minutes. the thing about minutes. look, the thing about i entirely about entirely take your point about the birmingham, which the schools in birmingham, which were one school were all white in one school or black in other, but black or brown in the other, but i that's transitional i hope that's transitional because, it certainly is i hope that's transitional be myse, it certainly is i hope that's transitional be my part it certainly is i hope that's transitional be my part of it certainly is i hope that's transitional be my part of the it certainly is i hope that's transitional be my part of the world ainly is i hope that's transitional be my part of the world in ly is i hope that's transitional be my part of the world in west in my part of the world in west london, you know, we did have that 25, 30 years ago. that situation 25, 30 years ago. we you know, people we don't know, you know, people have integrated. have actually integrated. >> people worry that >> i think people worry that it's embedded towns. >> think that's absolutely right. >> and emma made the about >> and emma made the point about some of our coastal some of some of our coastal towns, in isle towns, in particular in the isle of sheppey talking about of sheppey we were talking about earlier, an older lady earlier, who is an older lady and is absolutely frightened to go centre. go into the town centre. >> isn't. that's changed >> but isn't. and that's changed a that's all older people up. >> you shouldn't feel alienated in your own community because of people arriving. that shouldn't happen. that is her own community. >> yeah, and people are >> yeah, and older people are not going into the town centre, you know, because people are well the anti—social well the, the anti—social behaviour. not even going to behaviour. i'm not even going to go into but as well as go into it. but as well as crime, you just treating crime, you know, just treating it as though it's not even it's

difficult isn't it. because >> you can, you can, >> because you can, you can, you can about benefits of can talk about the benefits of immigration the immigration and all the wonderful contributions that people made from over wonderful contributions that peo country made from over wonderful contributions that peo country and de from over wonderful contributions that peo country and the rom over wonderful contributions that peo country and the fact over wonderful contributions that peo country and the fact thatver the country and the fact that people of all different ethnicities can make it to the top of society. and then also recognise not close one's recognise and not close one's eyes to some of the issues. yeah that's my that's my opinion. i i wouldn't disagree with that. >> and i would say if when they do the first poll, which would be probably out in the next couple would say 60, couple of days, i would say 60, 70% for the home 70% backing for the home secretary least. secretary stephen, at least. >> we'll i mean, >> well, we'll see. i mean, quite clear this is red quite clear this this is red meat party meat for the tory party conference, it? that's conference, isn't it? that's what it's all about. she's throwing to them. you throwing something to them. you know, the week before the conference. i think that's what thiswell, it's not just tories >> well, it's not just tories would pleased this. would be pleased about this. i think lots working class think lots of working class white in the red white labour voters in the red wall cheering she wall would be cheering what she said. >> right. >> right. >> i think that's that's that's that we're going come back to that we're going to come back to you just a but in the you in just a bit but in the next few moments, we're going to be future hs2 to be debating the future of hs2 to scrap to scrap. be debating the future of hs2 to scriyeah. to scrap. be debating the future of hs2 to scriyeah. should :rap. be debating the future of hs2 to scriyeah. should the link >> yeah. should the link be scrapped? gb scrapped? where gb news britain's news channel. >> temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxt solar prime sponsors of

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little and pulls away up into the northeast, allowing clear skies to follow. but it does stay on the blustery side and temperatures overall remaining in double figures. so bright start to thursday morning . a start to thursday morning. a windy start to the day with some outbreaks of rain and particularly strong winds still across the far north of scotland . the winds ease a little, but staying blustery as day staying blustery as the day progresses , often largely progresses, often largely cloudy. there'll be some bright or sunny spells at times later on, further heavy rain coming into northern ireland, western scotland and this slowly pushing south eastwards through the evening temperatures evening time. temperatures generally for most mid to high teens. near average for the teens. so near average for the time of see again soon. >> the temperatures rising, boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> right well , the conservatives >> right well, the conservatives are preparing to head to manchester. it's their big annual conference. but will hs2 ruin it somewhat? will anybody ever get there because there's a flamin strike with stephen's mates from the trade unions?

>> of course, deliberate targeting the tory conference to be vindictive. there is that. >> well, we'll talk about that more minute . more in just a minute.

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protesting against the plans to cancel high speed rail links to the north. the mayor of manchester, andy burnham , isn't manchester, andy burnham, isn't stopping fight. stopping the fight. >> i'm not going to lie down and accept the way whitehall's always treated the north of england. we are fighting back. we're organised. we're we're getting organised. we're not going to take things lying down. from lis. us. >> us. >> five labour mayors, do you think they know what their leader keir starmer, said about hs2? just a few years ago . hs2? just a few years ago. opposing hs2 on cost and on merit ? merit? >> it will not achieve its stated objectives . stated objectives. >> he's changed his tune again . >> he's changed his tune again. trump liable for fraud . a new trump liable for fraud. a new york judge rules that donald trump repeatedly misrepresented his wealth by hundreds of millions of dollars to banks and to insurers , and a crown ning to insurers, and a crown ning moment for me and emily, we've been having fun in the studio. >> get in touch if you think we have the regal touch . vaiews@gbnews.com. >> i think we do .

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swathes of the north with victorian infrastructure unfit for purpose . rishi sunak faces for purpose. rishi sunak faces political backlash over reports he's considering axing the link between birmingham and manchester amid soaring costs . manchester amid soaring costs. former political director to bods former political director to boris johnson , alex crowley says boris johnson, alex crowley says hs2 is no longer viable. >> this is a disastrous project , but the costs have ballooned. we're now looking at about £100 billion to construct it. the highest paid public servant in the country and the whole country. who is it? it's the guy who heads hs2 . we've had mps who heads hs2. we've had mps queuing up this week telling us about how awful it would be to scrap this project , etcetera. scrap this project, etcetera. and these are the same mps that have added all the costs . and have added all the costs. and i don't think any responsible government can look at that and say, we'll continue giving it a blank check . blank check. >> the uk's largest untap oil and gas field, rosebank in

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. emily >> now we've just received some breaking news. officers have made an arrest after a 15 year old girl was stabbed and sadly died in croydon this morning . died in croydon this morning. >> chief superintendent andy brittain , who's in charge of brittain, who's in charge of local policing, said our immediate thoughts are with this young girl's family who are facing the tragic of news. facing the most tragic of news. our are the girl's our officers are with the girl's family i'm in family to support them. i'm in contact the local community contact with the local community who as concerned who are clearly as concerned as we are about this tragic incident. i shall continue to update them throughout the day. >> a tragic story. we'll bring you more as we have it. but moving back to hs2, so there's five labour mayors. >> they're meeting today. i think there might even be meeting now to issue a plea to the prime minister not to scrap that hs2 link between birmingham, manchester? yes. >> so sunak has refused to guarantee the hs2 line will make it to manchester. and that's just before the conference just days before the conference kicks that very city. kicks off in that very city. some ministers warned that the

project's price nearly project's price has nearly tripled it began. well, tripled since it began. well, not just warned. it has . it not just warned. it has. it certainly has ballooned. >> course, yesterday on >> and of course, yesterday on yesterday, lord berkeley yesterday, we had lord berkeley talk course, talk to us. he, of course, conducted an independent review into hs2, and he says forget the cost soaring from 32 billion to 100 billion as we fear. he says it will be closer to 180 billion. so is it time to scrap the lot ? the lot? >> yes. so joining us to discuss this is the director of the cpma , mike ridgeway, and conservative mp greg smith. thank you both for joining conservative mp greg smith. thank you both forjoining us. thank you both for joining us. greg what is your feeling towards this project? do you think it is time now to scrap the lot regardless of the billions that have already gone into it? >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> it was a mistake from the very, very beginning . it was very, very beginning. it was neven very, very beginning. it was never, ever going to work. it was never going to be affordable. it was never actually going to bring any real value to the united kingdom. we don't need another north south route. we need the regional connectivity , particularly in

connectivity, particularly in the north. but in some parts of the north. but in some parts of the south of england, as well. and i'm very much with tony barclay this, he worked barclay on this, that he worked out that you get overall out that you can get the overall loss down to still an eye—watering amount of money, but to down about £8 billion by repurposing some of the land that's already been taken . now that's already been taken. now 8 billion is a huge amount of money to waste , but i would money to waste, but i would argue it is better to waste 8 billion than spend another 100, 150, 200 billion of taxpayer money that we just can't afford for buckingham. >> that's one of the areas that's been affected. do you feel this way because your constituents are telling you how they feel ? they feel? >> so my constituents suffer real and i don't use this phrase lightly. real human misery in the construction of this project, we've seen farms ripped apart, businesses ripped apart people's homes that in some cases have stood for centuries in the buckinghamshire countryside, knocked down that

yean countryside, knocked down that year. the impact of the construction of hs2 is absolutely horrendous . i can't absolutely horrendous. i can't underline that enough , but if underline that enough, but if you go up in the helicopter and you go up in the helicopter and you look down at the whole picture, the big piece, the nafion picture, the big piece, the nation can't afford it. we can't afford £200 billion on a railway thatis afford £200 billion on a railway that is just going to be another route north south for a fraction of that money. we could have upgraded the west coast main line. we could have recreated the great central line, which would have been far less destructive to ensure that we do have the freight routes that we do have, the passenger routes that necessary, hs2 is it's that are necessary, hs2 is it's a horrible project of government by shiny thing that had absolutely no real business case to start with. and they'll broke the story the other day that now the story the other day that now the business case is down to £0.90 return for every pound spent on hs2 . spent on hs2. >> mike ridgeway, what about that ? the >> mike ridgeway, what about that? the business >> mike ridgeway, what about that ? the business case >> mike ridgeway, what about that? the business case is .

that? the business case is. greg, thanks for that. let's bfing greg, thanks for that. let's bring mike ridgeway in. mike, what of that assertion that the business case is declining every week, every month, and we know that people won't need trains as much because many now much because so many people now can from home, they can can work from home, they can work on teams , as is a work on zoom or teams, as is a typical of people that think everything you invest in is going to be a failure. >> this project has been bedevilled by treasury civil servants involved in it all. now look, let's look at the holistic effect of large infrastructure developments. just to let you know, andrew, i came back from singapore this weekend and i've been seeing large projects undennay over there. they don't mess about, they don't dither . mess about, they don't dither. they get on with it. we can't in this where would this country. now, where would we be with infrastructure projects if we adopted this approach about the m25? i can remember the rules about that when it was built, but as stephen think your mp there about being a london mp without the m25, then we got the business of the channel tunnel. oh we can't build the channel tunnel. the channel tunnel will

never be people be never be used. people will be frightened of going in it and all this not a nonsense. how would the continent would we get to the continent now carbon way without now in a low carbon way without channel and afraid channel tunnel? and i'm afraid people not understand people just do not understand the international perspective of government dithering on this sort of project. you mentioned it. go on, andrew. if you want to talk about what's the situation in the north of england? i'm speaking to you from west yorkshire, a stone's throw leeds, there's throw from leeds, where there's meetings i don't meetings taking place. i don't generally support labour mayors, i can assure you of that , but on i can assure you of that, but on this occasion they've got it dead right. we must carry on with this project to demonstrate internationally and domestically. we're capable of building new projects which, once built, will be a success. >> but let's bring greg smith back. why are we so appalling at these major infrastructure projects? and mike talked about the channel tunnel that was supposed link of supposed to link parts of scotland and the north. it never did. abandoned of that. did. they abandoned all of that. so are we so bad? greg i so why are we so bad? greg i think the way we do

infrastructure in this country and this goes for many projects, but certainly hs2 is incredibly backward a concept gets floated in the case of hs2, a concept was floated under the last labour government and then we had over a decade rowing about the concept of it until it eventually in 2017, the green light was given. >> the hybrid act was passed for phase one and only at that point did we start designing the thing in detail , did we start designing the thing in detail, which is of course where you then find out that actually you can't go through this bit of land or there's an ancient woodland there or there's factors there's complicated factors here, or you can't bore under that or a sinkhole will appear and all the things that have caused to balloon for caused the cost to balloon for hs2. i if we had a more hs2. i think if we had a more sensible debate about the detailed design of infrastructure from the very start, we wouldn't fall into these absolute bear traps of projects in the first place. and i would also say that you need to have a bit of a common sense test to infrastructure for the

fact that not a single private pound would be spent on hs2. not one investor, not one business group was willing to touch it at all. should have been the big shining red beacon that actually there wasn't the demand for this thing. this thing wasn't going to fly. because if the private sector won't touch it, if they can't see the value in it, even for a little bit, it's probably not a good idea. >> it might back in. i mean, mike, want come in there? >> i just. yeah, come there >> i just. yeah, come in there are benefits to this other are other benefits to this other than much money are than thinking how much money are we out of it? we going to make out of it? >> about the reduction of >> what about the reduction of freight ? would capacity freight? hs2 would take capacity off network to allow off the rail network to allow more to be travelled on more freight to be travelled on the railway . what would do the railway. what would that do for decarbonising? very good. my company in bradford in yorkshire we employ people from germany and you know, we have to do we have to get on the m25 every time to go over to manchester airport. we did it 65 times in 18 months. now if there was a decent infrastructure link to hs2, it would take it hs2, then it would take it fonnard into northern powerhouse

rail between manchester, leeds , rail between manchester, leeds, bradford. we would eliminate all that extra traffic on the roads and lastly, make the point it takes. and lastly, make the point it takes . will take 37 minutes to takes. will take 37 minutes to get from london to birmingham on hs2 . now would we need a third hs2. now would we need a third london runway if we could get to mount birmingham in that time and use birmingham airport? i mean , there's a lot of these mean, there's a lot of these unforeseen conflict . unforeseen conflict. >> and mike, do you think mike, do you think there should be sorry to interrupt you, but do you there should be any you think there should be any limit the amount of money limit on the amount of money the government this government puts in to this project? is our project? because it is our money. is taxpayer money. and money. it is taxpayer money. and if a project is so massively over the original estimate, surely we need to rethink and you compare to the channel tunnel and other projects. but surely each project that needs to be assessed on its own terms, it needs to have its own cost benefit analysis. it's not just, oh, well, we did the m25, so therefore this is a good project i >> yeah, but if you could lie on

the calculations that come out of the treasury, that's one of the problems with all this. it wasn't really it wasn't really thought through like that . um, i thought through like that. um, i mean , we yeah, we just got it. mean, we yeah, we just got it. we've just got to take into account that we've spent the money and we had to look how much money did we spend on ppe? 30 billion. nobody's having a big hue and cry about it right? >> two wrongs don't make a right, they , mike? no, they don't. >> but it indicates how you take on things . on things. >> let's go back to greg for the last word. greg the tories are gathering in manchester. i cannot believe for a second that rishi sunak is going to allow the cancellation of this project . butjust before the cancellation of this project . but just before you gather in manchester for the tory conference, you can imagine what a field day the labour mayor will have up there. andy burnham and all those other labour mayors who by the don't mayors who by the way, don't appear realise their own appear to realise their own leader trashed hs2 in the house of commons five years ago . of commons five years ago. >> well, you know, this is one

of those rare examples where captain hindsight was right. the first time when he opposed hs2. but you know , what i would say but you know, what i would say is don't take manchester as one unified voice on hs2. when i talk to colleagues like james grundy, who represents leigh, he's totally opposed to hs2 because he sees the devastation it would bring to his constituency through the golborne link. and he sees the cost of the whole thing robbing his constituents and robbing manchin easter of actually the regional connectivity that they're crying out for. i'm on they're crying out for. i'm on the transport select committee. we've been up to the north of england to take evidence. and actually the ovennhelming demand from the north of england is that east regional that east west regional connectivity , not a very connectivity, not a very expensive high speed line to bfing expensive high speed line to bring people south of. >> mm yeah, but to be part of it go be part hs2 . >> mm yeah, but to be part of it go be part hs2. if you when i talk to my constituents, when i

talk to my constituents, when i talk to my constituents, when i talk to people on the transport select committee, people aren't clambering to get to birmingham. >> 20 minutes faster. they want a seat on the train. they want a reliable train on the west coast mainline the chiltern line. mainline or the chiltern line. they want toilet it that they want a toilet on it that doesn't resemble facilities doesn't resemble the facilities tent at glastonbury. after day three. actually three. that's what they actually want. they're not clambering for 20 minutes quicker. >> know . >> they know. >> they know. >> does it take to get >> how long does it take to get from to birmingham now from leeds to birmingham now compared how it would compared to how long it would take hs2 was constructed take if the hs2 was constructed ? an hour and a half ? it's nearly an hour and a half to get to birmingham from leeds now. dramatically halve now. hs2 will dramatically halve that period . you're not taking that period. you're not taking into account the benefits of hs2 linking into northern powerhouse rail complex , gentlemen, because rail complex, gentlemen, because the eastern leg has already been scrapped . scrapped. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> gentlemen, this is the problem. you know what i'd be on. i'd completely agree with mike. we'd done this quicker mike. if we'd done this quicker to time to budget. but now to time and to budget. but now it's falling apart at the seams . but thank for having the . but thank you for having the debate. fantastic. debate. that was fantastic. conservative and conservative mp greg smith and mike ridgeway from the consumer packaging manufacturer alliance,

director it's a lively director of it's a lively discussion and one i feel very torn on it because on the one handi torn on it because on the one hand i can't bear the thought that we've spent 19 billion, potentially we're potentially 30 billion, we're going it. going to scrap it. >> well, what's the point of that birmingham a bit that to get to birmingham a bit quicker. equally , if lord quicker. but equally, if lord barclay's. and going quicker. but equally, if lord bacost"s. and going quicker. but equally, if lord bacost180 and going quicker. but equally, if lord bacost180 billion, d going quicker. but equally, if lord bacost180 billion, d ifang to cost 180 billion, that's far too much for a railway, far too much. >> i just wish we could build things on time. >> yeah, but. and mike's been singapore, been to singapore, i've been to singapore. they do infrastructure brilliantly , as infrastructure brilliantly, as they do in china. >> there's lot people >> there's a lot of people who said flawed project said it was a flawed project from the start. let us know what you think. still to come, a judge has that donald you think. still to come, a judge irepeatedlyfat donald you think. still to come, a judge irepeatedly committed fraud trump repeatedly committed fraud by overinflating his wealth to the billions is surprise. >> there he still probably going to be the republican candidate to be the republican candidate to be the republican candidate to be president of the united states next year. i don't think it against biden. it will be against biden. >> well, we're going to talk to an expert in just one moment. this

christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . radio. >> it's 1122 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and emily carver. >> yeah, you are. you are. now we're going over to the states. if my words will come out properly. new judge has properly. new york judge has ruled trump ruled that donald trump repeatedly misrepresented his wealth by hundreds of millions of dollars to both banks and insurers . insurers. >> so this is what the attorney general of new york, letitia james, had to say. >> you're filing a lawsuit against donald for against donald trump for violating the law as part of his efforts to generate profits for himself, his family and his

company . company. >> donald trump says the ruling is false and he lashed out on social media. he's written, i have been unfairly sued by this trump hating democrat attorney general of new york state . you general of new york state. you wouldn't expect anything less. really? >> yeah. well, the gregg sentence here from republican support that attorney general, she is very political , isn't she is very political, isn't she? because by definition, they are in the united states. >> absolutely . i mean, some >> absolutely. i mean, some judges are appointed, some are elected. but her campaign, she was elected. ran on the was elected. she ran on the campaign strategy of get trump. yeah. and or i'm the best suited to get trump. yeah. it's to get trump. yeah. so it's really obvious that this is a politically motivated case. this was not brought to trial by or there was no accusation by deutsche bank. they didn't lose money. they're all happy. and so this was really the attorney general looking for something to get trump on, which clearly stated in her campaign, what is it, fraud ? it, fraud? >> what is the alleged crime?

>> what is the alleged crime? >> they're arguing that it's fraud by inflating the value of the assets, which is what real estate developers typically try to do, get the get the most value . so they also pay a higher value. so they also pay a higher tax bill when do that. so tax bill when they do that. so there's you can argue there's you can really argue that this is a witch hunt, whether you like president trump or not. yeah. and i surely wouldn't advocate for him or or cover for him on a lot of the things that he does. and a lot of his wounds are self—inflicted. but this is pretty obvious that it's the weaponization of justice system. >> still extraordinary system. >> i still extraordinary system. >> i know extraordinary system. >> i know whatordinary system. >> i know what america does me. i know what america does things a law things differently to see a law officer the attorney officer like the attorney general attacking , hanging, general attacking, hanging, drawing and quartering the person who she's investigating or he's investigating with a little row of people behind nodding. and it's an extraordinary way to conduct affairs. >> we haven't seen that typically, and it's only recently where there is this sort of, you know , hypocrisy and sort of, you know, hypocrisy and a two tiered system . in many a two tiered system. in many ways, there's a double standard. and you could see how see how the doj and many of the lawyers involved in the fbi and the doj

, the irs, have really treated the trump family or trump himself so differently than the way they've covered for hunter biden and joe biden. so that doesn't sell well with the electorate . electorate. >> as you say, it's playing to his strengths, isn't it? he's this is a gift for him. >> happened with the >> what happened with the indictment, first big indictment, the first big indictment, the first big indictment was alvin indictment was the alvin bragg indictment, like indictment, which was also like letitia very political. indictment, which was also like let ran very political. indictment, which was also like let ran on very political. indictment, which was also like let ran on the very political. indictment, which was also like let ran on the samewolitical. indictment, which was also like let ran on the same campaign he ran on the same campaign slogan of get trump and when he announced his indictment, trump's numbers went up 30 points. it's phenomenal how it's in many ways we would suspect that the democrats are doing this on purpose because they want trump to be the candidate. so it's elevated trump, but now it's looking like it might have backfired because his numbers are up the general election are up in the general election as not just in in the as well. not just in the in the republican party. as well. not just in the in the repsoican party. as well. not just in the in the rep so .ic there 'ty. a general >> so if there was a general election, according to the numbers now, would he win? >> to the now? >> according to the polls now? yeah. in yeah. and it's a snapshot in time. know, it's early, but, yeah. and it's a snapshot in timfknow, know, it's early, but, yeah. and it's a snapshot in timfknow, heww, it's early, but, yeah. and it's a snapshot in timfknow, he he it's early, but, yeah. and it's a snapshot in timfknow, he he pulled .y, but, yeah. and it's a snapshot in timfknow, he he pulled .y, babc you know, he he pulled the abc washington poll out washington post poll came out over the weekend and really sent

some waves to the some shock waves to the democrats. had trump winning democrats. it had trump winning by ten points. now it's not realistic really, but but he's polling at 23 on the border. he's polling at 30 on the economy. and 37 overall. he is a really flawed candidate. so this is not only is the failure of biden helping trump, but also these indictments have really helped trump. and you go back a year ago , trump was only up nine year ago, trump was only up nine points over desantis in august of 22 after the mar a lago raid . he was up 39. and then that that bump faded over time . and that bump faded over time. and governor desantis had a phenomenal midterm re—election. everything was humming along and he was only down 12 or 15 in april of this year. and then the alvin bragg indictment came lead lead grows to 30 to 40, 50. >> now, the six republican candidates today, this evening, is it this evening? it is, yeah. a republican debate. and of course , donald trump will not be course, donald trump will not be turning up . course, donald trump will not be turning up. is he course, donald trump will not be turning up . is he trying to

turning up. is he trying to avoid scrutiny ? avoid scrutiny? >> i think it's a little bit of both. you know, i think when he avoided the first debate in milwaukee, it might have been tactically smart because his lead phenomenal . but the lead was so phenomenal. but the numbers after the debate, you know, kind reflected voter know, kind of reflected voter concern that he wasn't willing to work, he wasn't willing to be on stage with the other candidates. that, again, candidates. maybe that, again, that tactical , be smart that might be tactical, be smart in the near term. but this gives the an the other candidates an opportunity to demonstrate that they vision they're they have a vision they're fighting and they're doing the work. but will of work. yeah but greg, will any of them say they on the them actually say they on the stage tonight, or are they too worried about the effect? >> denounce him? >> will they denounce him? >> will they denounce him? >> they will. it's >> i think they will. it's possible. i mean, chris christie did great of it last time. did a great job of it last time. he's big guy. really big he's the big guy. really big guy. he's quite the trump has no chance the way. chance of winning, by the way. so he's kind of the rabbit. so he's he's kind of the rabbit. >> bottom of the pack? >> is he bottom of the pack? >> is he bottom of the pack? >> is. he's part of the >> he is. he's part of the bottom pack. and that bottom of the pack. and that herd be called perhaps even herd will be called perhaps even after the debate tonight. yeah, the numbers , the fundraising numbers, quarterly numbers quarterly fundraising numbers will be announced shortly after this saturday after the

september quarter ends. september 30th quarter ends. that will call the herd a little bit, too, because the people that fundraise obviously that can't fundraise obviously have winning. so have no chance of winning. so this a chance for maybe this is a chance for maybe governor desantis nikki governor desantis and nikki haley to emerge from the pack a little bit . little bit. >> she's the former ambassador, isn't she? >> that's right. former ambassador and former governor of carolina. she of south carolina. yeah. so she did milwaukee did well in the milwaukee debate. desantis has debate. governor desantis has got ground game in got a phenomenal ground game in iowa. that's really what iowa. so that's really what everyone's looking you everyone's looking toward. you know, debates are know, these debates are important. not going to important. they're not going to move but it move the polls that much, but it will thin the herd. so it's trump versus 1 or 2 other candidates. >> what about the young billionaire who there's been a lot written about? >> got some staying power >> he's got some staying power because his because he's spending his own money. yeah ramaswami and he's he's running to be vice president candidate. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he was starting to shine a bit because he knows he's going to be the running mate. >> not the the not not the >> not the not the not not the presidential candidate. >> not the not the not not the pre he'stial candidate. >> not the not the not not the pre he's speakingdate. >> not the not the not not the pre he's speaking so e. >> not the not the not not the pre he's speaking so highly of >> he's speaking so highly of trump yeah it's trump all the time. yeah it's like, really running like, are you really running against him or not? but i think, you vivek staying you know, vivek has staying power only because he's bankrolling his his own

campaign. the other candidates, besides besides besides especially besides governor desantis, don't have the fundraising prowess that he has . so you'll see some drops . has. so you'll see some drops. so ultimately, i think what the other candidates would want is one candidate, maybe to running against trump, because if it's 6 or 7, then they'll just split the non trump vote, which is what happened in 2016. he was winning early primaries with only a third of the vote. but the other two thirds was split 8 or 10 ways. so that's not sustainable. so i think hopefully with these debates, we'll get down to 1 or 2 candidates. i hope it's governor desantis. >> he's got to raise his game, though, hasn't he, because he was doing so well. and then he sort of faded away. >> at the timing . >> but look at the timing. you're right, andrew. but look at timing he only down at the timing. he was only down nine. doing great. and nine. he was doing great. and then the alvin bragg indictment and then second, third and and then the second, third and fourth of course, the fourth and of course, the mug shot was able to raise $7 shot, trump was able to raise $7 million the day after the mug shot looking like a criminal. it's amazing. and so it's counterintuitive, but i do think that left and much of the of

that the left and much of the of the legacy media in the us wants trump to be the candidate because they think he could lose . but that's changing in the last so. last week or so. >> quickly, what are >> just very quickly, what are the lines moment the dividing lines at the moment within the republican party ? is within the republican party? is it mostly the economy ? is it it mostly the economy? is it immigration? is it environmental issues? what is it that sets these candidates apart from one another, apart from not being trump ? trump? >> not very much. okay. so there's of them there's each each one of them has a lane or a vertical. so vivek has the populism. mike pence has traditional conservative ism. nikki haley is more of a moderate . so more of a moderate. so everybody's got something wrong. i think desantis has the best package because he does have a populist following. he is a true conservative, but he's also got the he's got the track record . the he's got the track record. you know, he won his state by 19 points in november . you know, he won his state by 19 points in november. and you know, he won his state by 19 points in november . and now points in november. and now that's pretty phenomenal in a state like florida, which was a swing state only only two years ago. >> and got 30s, our home >> and he got 30s, our home secretary made this keynote speech night, speech in washington last night, the post in an the new york post in an editorial said if only american

politician make the case politician could make the case about with about what's wrong with immigration and as well as braverman , and she went down braverman, and she went down a storm, didn't she? >> of them will. and >> yes, most of them will. and that's why to answer your question, emily, there isn't a lot difference terms of lot of difference in terms of policy. so the immigration or illegal immigration will be a very big topic. and it's been a complete disaster under president biden. yeah. and so that helps trump. and it does in one way. but trump didn't really do that well on immigration. it was better than biden. that's an understatement. but he didn't build the wall. i think some build the wall. so i think some of candidates can come of the other candidates can come in and say, okay, president trump talked a big game 2016. trump talked a big game in 2016. definitely had a reduction in illegal immigration in night and day compared to the failure of the biden administration. but who could be more effective at getting done? trump can getting it done? what trump can really run the economy. really run on is the economy. but all of the candidates will run on the economy. you know, supply side reducing regulatory burden on on the private sector and of course, keeping taxes

reasonable . all pro growth reasonable. all pro growth tradition , all republican. i tradition, all republican. i guess there's optimism . guess there's optimism. >> there's probably a difference of opinion when it comes to protectionism versus free trade and all that. that's all we've got time for. greg true. thank you so much for coming in and talking to chair talking to us. chair of republicans overseas uk. >> talk to you >> greg, we might talk to you tomorrow did best tonight. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> well, would be good. >> well, that would be good. would know. yes, please. would love to know. yes, please. yeah, right. well, still to come, mayor khan's come, london mayor sadiq khan's lead is under lead in the polls is under threat. . good. yeah. threat. quite good. good. yeah. we'll into that. we'll get into that. >> yeah. here's the news, though, with . rihanna though, with. rihanna >> good morning. it's 1133. though, with. rihanna >> good morning. it's1133. your top stories from the newsroom. a 15 year old girl has died after being stabbed in south london, met police, says a boy who knows the victim has been arrested. emergency services were called wellesley road in croydon at around 830 this morning following reports the girl had been stabbed. she was pronounced dead at the scene 50 minutes

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britain's news channel. and right, it's 1141 in the morning. right, it's1141 in the morning. >> you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. and with me , the panel are back. >> the panel are back. stephen pound. it's like and andrew is also back. >> andrew never left. >> andrew never left. >> i never left. and also no emma wolf really interesting poll in the sun today. emma which i'm excited about which i'm very excited about saying that sadiq khan is now just three points ahead of his tory rival to be mayor of london, susan hall. that's amazing . amazing. >> as a londoner, i'm very pleased about this. i was looking at stephen there who was talking about sadiq khan a few minutes ago , his temper and his minutes ago, his temper and his temper. this is exciting and his temper. >> what's up? tell us about it. you know, he gets frustrated . so you know, he gets frustrated. so is it small man, big temper ? is is it small man, big temper? is that what you're trying to say? >> i wouldn't i wouldn't go there, but i think if he's three points ahead, that's actually a considerable improvement because he pegging yesterday. considerable improvement because he was. pegging yesterday. considerable improvement because he was. peghefg yesterday. considerable improvement because he was. peghe was. sterday. considerable improvement because he was. peghe was. butiay. no, he was. yes he was. but andrew may i say

andrew wasn't. may i say something? for the first time you'll a labour you'll ever hear a good labour man we are longing for man say this? we are longing for jeremy to stand. he's jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the only who save now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, who save now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, if who save now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, if hefo save now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, if he standssave now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, if he stands ase now. jeremy corbyn to stand. he's the onleell, if he stands as an now. >> well, if he stands as an independent. exactly. walk it exactly . so you want sadiq khan exactly. so you want sadiq khan out you? out to you? >> no i mean, jeremy, >> yeah. no no. i mean, jeremy, the tories perspective is bringing yeah bringing in jeremy corbyn. yeah but hang on. >> what do you think sadiq khan's wrong then? stephen communication. partly. it's been a series of >> partly. it's been a series of problems. i mean , the idea of problems. i mean, the idea of you remember that white you remember that all white family they family saying that they don't represent family saying that they don't rep oh, nt family saying that they don't rep oh, that was appalling. >> oh, that was appalling. >> oh, that was appalling. >> yeah, well, it was dreadful. is think ulez aimed is it? and i think ulez aimed his which was worse. his staff, which was even worse. >> well, boss deputy >> okay, well, the boss deputy heads must roll. >> with ulez is, >> look, the thing with ulez is, you obviously boris you know, obviously boris johnson's which was johnson's ulez scheme, which was introduced and then endorsed by grant shapps as transport secretary, actually a good secretary, it's actually a good idea, but it was rolled too idea, but it was rolled out too quickly without thought quickly without actually thought about compensation for people. we about we actually thought about mitigation. too mitigation. it was done too quickly brutally too fast. >> stephen very clever, but not clever enough , i'm afraid it's clever enough, i'm afraid it's not boris johnson's expansion of ulez. it's sadiq khan's the tories opposing boris johnson's introduce an introduction. >> yeah , this is the expansion,

>> yeah, this is the expansion, which means every london borough, 32 of them, which means millions of coming into millions of people coming into from over the country will from all over the country will have pay £12.50 every day of have to pay £12.50 every day of the year for 365 days of the yean >> it's a shocker. >> it's a shocker. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and every can't believe >> and every i can't believe you're it's just you're saying it's just communication. that's just not. >> said that's one >> no, no. i said that's one aspect no, the policy. aspect of it. no, the policy. look, police working i >> feel the policies are completely mad , but also he completely mad, but also that he just kind of little just is a kind of little dictator, that he just makes decisions, consulting decisions, isn't consulting things like ulez really, really damage people who work , people damage people who work, people who need to drive their cars . he who need to drive their cars. he hasn't thought about what you do with all of those cars that he will not allow the city. will not allow into the city. the it all. yeah, i the cost of it all. yeah, i just. i know you don't think it's point. it's a fair point. >> i the issue his >> i think the issue his behaviour cressida dick, behaviour with cressida dick, i think was difficult. you think was was difficult. and you know, unhappy. got rid know, i'm very unhappy. got rid of her. yeah. well, also the way in done. but look, in which it was done. but look, i i'm getting a new i mean, i'm getting a new greenhouse allotment greenhouse on my allotment and i've email saying, greenhouse on my allotment and i've know, email saying, greenhouse on my allotment and i've know, we're email saying, greenhouse on my allotment and i've know, we're going saying, greenhouse on my allotment and i've know, we're going toying, greenhouse on my allotment and i've know, we're going to have you know, we're going to have you're going pay an you're going to have to pay an extra because of the extra £12.50 because of the ulez thing bring in the greenhouse thing to bring in the greenhouse

from does from gloucestershire. so it does affect ultimately affect people. but ultimately look, remember, it was brought affect people. but ultimately look, theiember, it was brought affect people. but ultimately look, the end er, it was brought affect people. but ultimately look, the end of it was brought affect people. but ultimately look, the end of theias brought affect people. but ultimately look, the end of the month.ght in at the end of the month. there hasn't huge uproar there hasn't been a huge uproar . in london, 90% of . most people in london, 90% of them cars are ulez comply like people have lost huge amounts of work cameras being vandalised. >> they're blocked. well, >> they're being blocked. well, you andrew, you don't endorse that, andrew, surely. you're surely. i don't. but you're saying reaction. saying there's been no reaction. hundreds cameras have hundreds of these cameras have been people are been taken out. people are enraged. a great civil enraged. there is a great civil unrest out protest going on here. and if you don't get that, but road mileage has not decreased, has it ? decreased, has it? >> but what about the proof? what the actual what about the actual proof documentary that the documentary evidence that the ulez really wasn't going ulez scheme really wasn't going to pollution and to decrease pollution and improve people's life chances and all of that, particularly ? and all of that, particularly? what do you say to all that? >> well, to say i will >> well, i have to say i will not what happened. not defend what happened. remember one the deputy remember when one of the deputy mayors tried to finesse or tried to finesse? >> i'm mary college and >> i'm queen mary college and pop >> i'm queen mary college and pop the proof, you know , argument. >> no argument about that. but look, don't most people look, i don't think most people accept ulez has worked accept that ulez has worked in central we can central london. i think we can accept that. >> no, actually, no. as a cyclist around with a cyclist who cycles around with a small on the back, i don't

small child on the back, i don't think london has got the think that london has got the traffic, and the traffic, the pollution and the and you know, the general and the, you know, the general kind has increased kind of congestion has increased to be honest. kind of congestion has increased to he honest. kind of congestion has increased to ii think st. kind of congestion has increased to ii think they've made well , >> i think they've made well, not arranged or the cycle lanes very well in london. and i think what the impact it has is more congestion, which means more pollution. should we move on to another thing to name the deputy mayor? >> stephen forgot the name mayor? >> because�*phen forgot the name mayor? >> because he's. forgot the name mayor? >> because he's. forgot time,ime just because he's. remind me, shirley just because he's. remind me, shi yes, the one. >> yes, that's the one. >> yes, that's the one. >> still the one and >> she still holds the one and she still has the job. >> she still holds the one and sheofill has the job. >> she still holds the one and sheof coursethe job. >> she still holds the one and sheof course shejob. >> she still holds the one and sheof course she does. yeah >> of course she does. yeah >> of course she does. yeah >> well, should we move on to another controversial labour? >> well, should we move on to anotherthistroversial labour? >> well, should we move on to anotherthis isversial labour? >> well, should we move on to anotherthis is private labour? >> well, should we move on to anotherthis is private schools. >> oh, this is private schools. >> oh, this is private schools. >> some people are saying this is start of a class war. the is the start of a class war. the first thing labour are going to do apparently , is slap vat on do apparently, is slap vat on private school fees. should this be a priority ? be a priority? >> see, i'm not sure it should be a priority. it certainly be a policy and it's very, very sensible. look, private schools, the commercial sector in education entrenches education actually entrenches privilege. the fact privilege. you know, the fact that all these prime that we've had all these prime ministers never going ministers from eton never going to able to get of to be able to get rid of privilege a private privilege if it's not a private school, it will be additional privilege if it's not a private school,caniill be additional privilege if it's not a private school,can ll be additional privilege if it's not a private school,can i can additional privilege if it's not a private school,can i can irdditional privilege if it's not a private school,can i can irddit sayl

tutors. can i can i just say there's a difference between within the commercial sector, there private schools there are some private schools which and out commercial which are out and out commercial ones. advertise china. ones. they advertise in china. they offices they have little offices and there are other ones, particularly faith schools. particularly the faith schools. and the faith and i think some of the faith schools, they should schools, i think they should not be this because it's be included in this because it's because they are charities. you know, schools know, the private schools that pay know, the private schools that pay their pay dividends to their shareholders. they should shareholders. right they should have rage have never understood the rage and the and the politics of envy around private schools. >> people are allowed to choose what their money on. what they spend their money on. people allowed, don't what they spend their money on. peopthem allowed, don't what they spend their money on. peopthem a llowed, don't what they spend their money on. peopthem a tax/ed, don't what they spend their money on. peopthem a tax break. don't give them a tax break. >> why give them vat to go and buy expensive cars go buy expensive cars or go on expensive or spend expensive holidays or spend their news? their money on sky news? >> know, sky tv, >> you know, sky tv, subscription channels subscription satellite channels . but when spend your money, . but when you spend your money, when save up, like my when you save up, like my parents did send your parents did to send your children for a private children for a for a private school which, the school education, which, by the way, pressure school education, which, by the waj all pressure school education, which, by the wajall the pressure school education, which, by the wajall the other pressure school education, which, by the wajall the other schools ssure school education, which, by the wajall the other schools that we on all the other schools that we have a of pressure on have a lot of pressure on already. why why is there so nobody you discount on nobody gives you a discount on your tv channel, do they? your sky tv channel, do they? >> why >> nobody gives you. so why should private schools should we give private schools a discount? me tell why. discount? let me tell you why. >> spending >> what is wrong with spending money on education? >> because the reason they get the because are the 20% vat is because they are

committing, pledging they will be money. but of be spending money. but of course, not. course, they're not. >> and i know and they >> you know, and i know and they do scheme. >> they they provide >> they do. they provide bursaries, scholarships. >> most >> they provide most of the bursary are funded bursary schemes are funded externally. we all know that . externally. we all know that. >> stephen, is obviously >> stephen, this is obviously just a blatant attempt from labour to stir the pot . labour to stir the pot. >> absolutely . the haves and the >> absolutely. the haves and the have nots. yeah, absolutely . have nots. yeah, absolutely. what they don't and they're going to come a cropper. >> they are actually a lot of these schools have a lot very these schools have a lot of very aspirational minority aspirational ethnic minority kids parents have scrimped kids whose parents have scrimped and saved, saved parents from the grandparents, the great grandparents to try and pay the fees. you know, but it's not all you take. >> you take all private schools out the system and you'll see out of the system and you'll see how education. do you really how our education. do you really want tier education system want a two tier education system in you've in this country where you've got the the goats with the the sheep and the goats with the people aspirational to the sheep and the goats with the petupe aspirational to the sheep and the goats with the petup there aspirational to the sheep and the goats with the petup there and aspirational to the sheep and the goats with the petup there and everybodyl to the sheep and the goats with the petup there and everybody else loses? >> i'm sorry, stephen, don't be so naive. i would to see so naive. i would like to see every school being want be every school being an want to be perfectly you can't get perfectly honest. you can't get out of your head the idea of eton david eton and boris johnson and david cameron .

cameron. >> that's what you're thinking of. but school, parents of. but the school, the parents will won't be will be affected. won't be sending their kids to eton, 55, and affected it and they won't be affected by it anyway . anyway. >> they won't be the small rural private school that will close because of this act of vindictive vandalism . vindictive vandalism. >> if you're paying £42,000 a year to send your child to a private school, then 20% is what, 8000? it's not it's not going to make huge difference. going to make a huge difference. >> point, people. >> i take your point, people. >> i take your point, people. >> go on. but do you not accept that there are private that there are some private schools simply schools which are simply commercial entities they commercial entities and they play commercial entities and they play dividends, play shares to their dividends, to shareholders . and to their shareholders. and so. >> sorry, your point >> well, i'm sorry, your point is, if you're going to is, if you're if you're going to go with capitalism and by all means, do it. >> we're all capitalists. but i would agree with you, we need a discount. we give them vat exemption , the education system exemption, the education system in country in this country. >> mutually >> why that's not mutually exclusive . we need to improve. exclusive. we need to improve. there's already a three, four, five tier system in this country amongst amongst state provision . there are parents who know what they're you know, they know where the best schools are. i'm deaung where the best schools are. i'm dealing catchment areas and dealing with catchment areas and all who all sorts. there are parents who know what they know, and then there who who

there are parents who don't who don't know and just send their kids school. kids to the local school. let's improve the education system. what you attacking private? >> can we agree on that? yes we can agree that. can agree on that. >> we more, more a better >> we need more, more a better state as well. state system as well. >> yeah. and if they close as many schools as we think this will down, be will close down, that'll be 40,000 state 40,000 more kids in the state system. going system. where are they going to go stephen? go to school, stephen? >> and they will choose the best schools will take the schools and they will take the best schools and they will take the bes enough. there we go. schools and they will take the besoverigh. there we go. schools and they will take the besover my there we go. schools and they will take the besover my part there we go. schools and they will take the besover my part of there we go. schools and they will take the besover my part of the ere we go. schools and they will take the besover my part of the world go. all over my part of the world at the moment because of the falling birth and the fact falling birth rate and the fact people leaving people are going, leaving the country and returning poland. country and returning to poland. >> it for country and returning to poland. >> the it for country and returning to poland. >> the left it for country and returning to poland. >> the left can't it for country and returning to poland. >> the left can't accept for country and returning to poland. >> the left can't accept oryr me? the left can't accept or won't accept that there will always privilege, even if always be a privilege, even if you got rid of all private you got rid of all the private schools even you schools in the land, even if you took away , you if you took away, you know, if you taxed. well, it's the obsession with private schooling, though, which me because which really gets me because people to free choose how people are to free choose how they spend their money and some parents give them a say. >> i don't want children >> i don't want their children first want to abolish first class. i want to abolish second class. >> not as well. >> let's not forget as well. keir starmer zone headteacher has because has condemned this plan because of keir starmer of course keir starmer school was then was a grammar school which then became school and

became a fee paying school and he to remain. he was allowed to remain. >> was okay. >> he was okay. >> he was okay. >> benefited from a fee >> he benefited from a fee paying >> he benefited from a fee paying hardly paying private. it was hardly his not saying that, his fault. i'm not saying that, but his own headteacher has said this will kids this plan will hit kids like keir starmer. >> starmer went to >> but when keir starmer went to that school, you remember, it that school, if you remember, it was school. yes it was. was a state school. yes it was. yeah, it was. >> take away private schools >> take away the private schools and feed and all you'll do is feed private more people private tuition. more people aren't stop trying. aren't going to stop trying. >> that's interesting >> that's an interesting thought. thought emma thought. i hadn't thought emma wants know to wants to know, do we know how to make call? make a phone call? >> i'm going to take it away. privilege. going to privilege. it's not going to take there's an >> stephen, there's an etiquette, but we're not talking about studio. etiquette, but we're not talking about going studio. etiquette, but we're not talking about going to studio. etiquette, but we're not talking about going to aboutdio. we're going to talk about etiquette calls etiquette of phone calls because, this because, yeah, this is a this hilarious in daily hilarious article in the daily mail. know the modern >> do you know the modern minefield making phone minefield of making a phone call? this is, if you're like me, a direct phone call causes intense distress. mean, intense distress. yes. i mean, the ringing the idea of your phone ringing and you and someone calling you directly, many, many directly, we many, many, many people know people just cannot don't know what kind of freeze. what to do. you kind of freeze. and you answer phone, and should you answer the phone, should the should you not? anyway the etiquette leave etiquette says don't leave a voice. don't leave a voicemail. >> no voicemail. >> no voicemail. >> always someone, always >> always check someone, always text them before calling. >> if you say, text them before calling. >> i if you say, text them before calling. >> i give if you say, text them before calling. >> i give you if you say, text them before calling. >> i give you a if you say, text them before calling. >> i give you a call?ou say, text them before calling. >> i give you a call? so say, text them before calling. >> i give you a call? so ify, text them before calling. >> i give you a call? so if you can i give you a call? so if you get text stephen pound

get a text from stephen pound saying, call? everybody's saying, can i call? everybody's going no, no, obviously. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. no, no, obviously. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. but1o, no, obviously. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. but most, obviously. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. but most of bviously. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. but most of mywusly. saying, can i call? everybody's goiiyeah. but most of my phone >> yeah. but most of my phone calls come from bangalore. bangalore anyway. calls come from bangalore. barmoste anyway. calls come from bangalore. barmost people ry. get direct >> most people don't get direct phone this phone calls now. so there's this whole how how whole panic and how we how we negotiate , like calling someone whole panic and how we how we negtliterallyike calling someone whole panic and how we how we negtliterally picking ng someone just literally picking up the phone them and is phone and calling them and is this a is this about young people in particular? >> uses >> because nobody uses a landline >> because nobody uses a landlircourse there are. there >> of course there are. there are exactly . no almost no are exactly. no one almost no one landlines. there a one has landlines. there is a lot anxiety amongst the young lot of anxiety amongst the young and deal with phone and how you deal with a phone call they're to call because they're not used to communicating way. you communicating in any way. you know, of know, everything is kind of asynchronous. kind asynchronous. it's not this kind of so texts, of direct interaction. so texts, whatsapp, kind of whatsapp, everything is kind of you deal with it when you you can deal with it when you want whereas you ring want to, whereas when you ring someone, them on the spot. >> i suddenly feel desperately, terribly old, probably because i am. in my am. but i remember in my courting days, you know, back in the last century, we used to queue up outside the phone box in road fulham in munster road in fulham because. know that because. because we'd know that somebody would ring us at 6:05 or past. but, you or six minutes past. but, you know, and it quite romantic. know, and it was quite romantic. they going down know, and it was quite romantic. the fulham going down know, and it was quite romantic. the fulham palace going down know, and it was quite romantic. the fulham palace road oing down know, and it was quite romantic. the fulham palace road ,ing down know, and it was quite romantic. the fulham palace road , butdown the fulham palace road, but unfortunately it was very often the girl we when

the same girl that we were when the same girl that we were when the rings went halfway the rings went, went halfway through. i know. press b through. i know. press button b and you remember when had and do you remember when you had to parents, could to ask your parents, could you go in the and wait go out in the hallway and wait for call and then all for your phone call and then all your and sisters your brothers and sisters would try listen and someone try and listen in and someone would those little tables. would call those little tables. you lovely little you said these lovely little tables telephone tables tables in the telephone tables with phone with the exactly. with the phone book was book underneath it, which was about thick. about six inches thick. >> pages, >> and the yellow pages, remember >> and the yellow pages, rerrand yer >> and the yellow pages, rerrand have you ever tried to >> and have you ever tried to explain young person why explain to a young person why the to the the phones were attached to the wall? i don't know why were wall? i don't know why they were attached wall. attached to the wall. >> welcome the soldier >> welcome to the soldier attached to the wall, having to agreeing to be somewhere, to meet someone and having to be there know, there without you know, finalising and confirming on your finalising and confirming on youoh, i'm. late. finalising and confirming on youoh, i'm. late . yeah, >> oh, i'm. i'm late. yeah, well, trust. well, that's trust. >> know. that's how it was. >> i know. that's how it was. >> i know. that's how it was. >> just be stood dates all >> just be stood up on dates all the time. >> right. >> right. >> i can't believe you >> because i can't believe you ever ever, andre. ever got stood up, ever, andre. no. if someone didn't no. on a date. if someone didn't turn had way of turn up, you had no way of contacting you stood contacting them. you stood outside odeon . that's right. outside the odeon. that's right. and you waited . and you waited. and you waited. and you waited. and you waited. and brutal. it was brutal and it was brutal. it was brutal . maybe you'd find a phone . and maybe you'd find a phone box tempe, but would box in your tempe, but who would you ring? >> kwarteng. so you wait. >> sandy kwarteng. so you wait. you and girl don't come. >> it's like that thomas had a

date for 8:30 tonight. >> ever up on a date? >> frequently. virtually 90. oh, no , i don't believe it. no, i don't believe it. >> now just call it we've >> now they just call it we've got ghosting. very got time ghosting. oh, very much, emma wolf. >> and thank you very much, stephen you've great stephen pound. you've been great to they always to panellists they always readers , paper readers you've readers, paper readers you've never up please what's never stood me up please what's coming up is the live desk with mark longhurst and ellie costello. what is coming up on the show? yeah sorry, just getting a text from someone called stephen pound. >> anyway, i'll ignore that. coming up, the uk's biggest untapped field open for untapped oil field is open for business. government says business. the government says it's generate billions it's going to generate billions and energy security. and provide energy security. however, say it's however, the opponents say it's environmental vandalism and morally obscene . also coming up, morally obscene. also coming up, the fab five rooftop concert in leeds. the labour mayor's urging the government to let it be and not derail hs2 to rishi sunak. facing growing pressure from within his own party to he might be saying help. while sir elton john joins the chorus of condemnation over the home

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you this wednesday lunchtime. >> the uk's biggest untap oil field open for business. the government says it will generate billions and provide energy security. opponents say it's environmental vandalism and morally obscene . morally obscene. >> the fab five rooftop get together . together. >> the labour mayor's urging the government to let it be and not scale back on hs2. rishi sunak is also facing growing pressure from within his own party. we're live in leeds , sir elton john live in leeds, sir elton john now joins the chorus of condemnation over the home secretary's comments on gay asylum seekers and her assertion that multiculturalism is a misguided dogma. >> we'll have the latest reaction to her divisive us speech. >> and queen victoria's favourite tipple up for auction. >> the 200 year old bottles of whisky were found behind a

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