that and more coming up. all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news from aaron armstrong i >> -- >> it is 6:00. good evening to you, aaron. armstrong here in the newsroom. the driver of a school bus who died after it crashed on the world yesterday has been named as stephen shrimpton. the 40 year old's family the father two family says the father of two suffered issues the suffered medical issues at the wheel of coach. they've paid wheel of the coach. they've paid tribute, describing him as a loving father. 15 loving husband and father. 15 year jessica baker also died year old jessica baker also died in crash and four other in the crash and four other children were taken to hospital, including a 14 year old boy whose injuries are said be whose injuries are said to be life changing. convicted child life changing. a convicted child rapist said to be a high risk sex offender is wanted by lancashire police . the force lancashire police. the force says 35 year old stephen pennington presents a real risk to children and women . he failed to children and women. he failed to children and women. he failed to comply with licence conditions and being recalled to pnson conditions and being recalled to prison . he has links to prison. he has links to blackburn, blackpool and wigan and police are asking anyone who

sees him or knows his whereabouts to contact them . whereabouts to contact them. dozens of conservative mps have signed a pledge to never again vote for an increase in overall taxes . former prime minister liz taxes. former prime minister liz truss and former party leader sir iain duncan smith are among those to have signed up , along those to have signed up, along with seven former cabinet ministers. the promise means they won't vote for the chancellor's autumn statement if it contains us tax rises. putting further pressure on rishi sunak ahead of the conservative party conference, jeremy hunts told the times he wants to stop the vicious circle of ever rising taxes, but has ruled out cuts in the short term. former party chairman sir jake berry, who organised the pledge, says it holds the chancellor to his word. all too often we have seen these promises and pledges made by mps across the political divide that haven't materialised. >> that is why this tax pledge is different. it isn't connected to the conservative party. it is a direct pledge from me to my constituents in rossendale and dannen and to the british people

that i will not vote to put taxes up. it's for keeps. it is a pledge that i will stick to as long as i am a member of parliament. >> well, the prime minister, meanwhile, says he's slamming the brakes on the war on motorists. rishi sunak has arrived in manchester ahead of the party conference, which gets under and he's under way tomorrow and he's expected address the issue expected to address the issue this week. he told sun this week. he told the sun harebrained schemes like low traffic neighbourhoods and 20mph zones are being forced on drivers. the department for transport says guidance will be reviewed to prevent their blanket use in england . is it blanket use in england. is it time to cut taxes ? meanwhile, time to cut taxes? meanwhile, the government says today's train drivers strike is clearly political and planned to coincide with the tory party conference. aslef members at 16 operators in england have walked out in that long running dispute. many parts of the country had no services and those that have been running have finished earlier than usual. transport secretary mark harper says the current offer on the table is reasonable.

>> it's clearly a political strike timed to coincide with the conservative party conference. you don't have to think very carefully to see that's the case. but look, there's a fair offer on the table. train drivers get paid an average salary of £60,000 for a full day, 35 hour week. the pay rise that's on the table that they won't put to their members would take that average salary to £65,000 a year. now, look, i think most of your viewers will will look at that and think that is actually quite fair and reasonable . reasonable. >> aslef general secretary, however , mick has accused however, mick whelan has accused the secretary of not the transport secretary of not negotiating well, it's not political, it's industrial . political, it's industrial. >> mr harper and his cronies for the last 16 months have been accusing us of attacking all sorts of events strike days, sorts of events on strike days, which done because we which we haven't done because we haven't mr harper. we haven't seen mr harper. we decided to make a point today. where's wally? where's mark? come we striking come and see us. we are striking today the attention of today to get the attention of the and the the tory party and the government to resolve this dispute. >> hundreds of demonstrators have been staging a protest against the rosebank offshore

development at rallying in central london. they're demanding the government reconsider approval for the controversial oil field. it's located 80 miles west of shetland and is the uk's largest untapped field. it's estimated to contain an up to 300 million barrels of oil, a robyn wells from fossil free london says the oil field will destroy lives. >> we organised this demonstration because we're not shocked and we're not surprised , but we are in danger and rosebank will destroy the uk's prospects of being a climate leader, but also destroy lives worldwide. this government is very used to u—turns and we need another one from them and we need labour to grow a backbone and say that they would not allow rosebank to go ahead . they allow rosebank to go ahead. they would the licence because would revoke the licence because it's the right thing do. we it's the right thing to do. we live across the uk on tv, digital your smart digital radio and on your smart speaker just say play gb news speaker to just say play gb news that's for me, for the moment. >> now back to . neil >> now back to. neil >> now back to. neil >> in other news, a 15 year old

girl bled to death on a london street. she had been on the bus to school in croydon. she suffered a fatal wound to her neck. witnesses described a knife as big as a sword. a policeman tried to stem the crimson, but she died there. and then a spokesman for her school said she had been much loved. and i'm sure she was. every parent's nightmare. and yet the death of children by knives on the streets of london is a commonplace . and so who are we commonplace. and so who are we and what do we care about? in other news, last week, a was honoured with a standing ovation in the canadian parliament in front of smiling prime minister justin trudeau and ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy and the full complement of mps government and opposition 98 year old yaroslav honka , a year old yaroslav honka, a ukrainian living in canada , ukrainian living in canada, formerly of the waffen ss , was formerly of the waffen ss, was hailed as a hero for fighting russians in world war ii. for those who have forgotten or never learned or who are in the

business of rewriting history to suit the present agenda , it's suit the present agenda, it's worth pointing out the russians were canada's allies in world war ii. they were ours. as well. the us of all of us, the, men like honka were our enemy. men and boys, women and girls all bled out in the face of them. the waffen ss were the worst of the worst, but on juno beach in normandy in 1944, canadian men and boys fought other soldiers of the waffen ss and paid a dreadful price per head of population . few nations were as population. few nations were as badly hurt in world war two, bled as heavily in defiance of as canada . but now her as canada. but now her parliament honours a. trudeau was on his feet with all the rest, smiling and clapping. zelenskyy raised his fist in salute. later trudeau said it was a mistake for which he bore no responsibility . apparently no responsibility. apparently a big boy did it and ran away. trudeau invited his fellow canadians to share the shame that was his and those mps up on their hind legs .

that was his and those mps up on their hind legs. he sought to make all canadians complicit, including descendants of loved ones who bled and died on juno beach and elsewhere . an attempt beach and elsewhere. an attempt was made to have any account of the events stricken from the record to pretend it never happened or to memory hole. the disgrace the abhorrence in the canadian parliament played out on the eve of yom kippur, which is the holiest day in the jewish calendar, the day of atonement . calendar, the day of atonement. surely that collision of dates was only a coincidence . surely was only a coincidence. surely that and no one's idea of a sick joke. so much for the truth of world war ii. in other news, back in ukraine, half a million men and boys are called in the clay and still the meat grinder turns wheels and gears cheerfully whirling more men and boys die every day, made into butchered meat. ukrainians and russians alike. the meat grinder does not discriminate somewhere to the cash registers are ringing with the profits. billions of pounds and dollars flow into ukraine from taxpayers all over the west . money not yet

all over the west. money not yet earned. further burdening working people with yet more impossible unpayable debt and generations as yet unborn . un generations as yet unborn. un military analysts say the world is at a more dangerous point than than any in living memory. nuclear war is invoked like an unquiet ghost. all of this is happening now. the dark is rising. but back here in britain, while blood flows elsewhere in immeasurable volume, while blood flows from the neck of a schoolgirl on a street in croydon, back here in britain, it's the season of witch hunts. a blast from the past, but always a crowd pleaser . why trouble ourselves with the slaughter of children on the streets of the capital city? why contemplate wholesale slaughter of men and boys in a war that's making billions for some when there's other blood in the water for easier blood? and so who are we and what do we want? what is it that we care about? in other news, uncounted numbers are dead or ill. after taking state

sanctioned meds marketed as vaccines . every day there's more vaccines. every day there's more evidence to challenge the advertising slogan about safe and effective. but still, the jabbing continues. in other news, thousands of excess deaths worldwide are recorded every day, which is to say, more people are dying than ought to with no investigation. and no explanation of the cause , the explanation of the cause, the death toll of those who might othennise have been expected to be alive is the equivalent of a fully laden passenger plane crashing in the uk. every day. it's statistics accurate to say the united states lost more people in the 18 to 45 age group after a year of the vaccine rollout than that nation saw fall dead in vietnam in a decade . but you'd have to look hard to find that bald fact in the archives of the mainstream media. in the face of all this, dying is their outrage and pearl clutching by the establishment, by the mainstream media, by former prime minister gordon brown. i think you'll find that, as with so much else, so much avoidable death, inexplicable

death, ugly, death on the streets of london, the usual suspects are mysteriously, you might say , inexplicably might say, inexplicably sanguine, which is to say cold blooded. in other news, ingredients in the products pushed as vaccines are known to pass to babies via their mother's milk . but no pass to babies via their mother's milk. but no one pass to babies via their mother's milk . but no one seems mother's milk. but no one seems to mind very much about that. heart attacks harvest callow boys on the field of play. othennise, healthy people die in their sleep. there's disrupted menstrual for half of all women that took the jabs sampled by one nonnegian study. think of that for every other mother , that for every other mother, sister daughter is the round the clock wall to wall outrage about any of that are they're furious . calls for sackings and resignations for heads to roll for any of the companies involved to be shut down or at the very least to have their activities and individuals suspended. subject to investigations. not that i'm aware of, but correct me if i'm wrong. in other news, the clock is ticking down to the acceptance by default of amendments to the international

health regulations curated by the world health organisation on the world health organisation on the same w.h.o. that has software salesman bill gates as its biggest funder and therefore its biggest funder and therefore its most potent influencer to its most potent influencer to its unelected, unaccountable representatives, will pass all manner of power and decision making that has hitherto been in the hands of national governments and therefore our hands. those faceless, nameless characters will have it in their unquestioned power to define vaccine products, to define emergencies, to commandeer national spending on solutions deemed necessary . come december deemed necessary. come december of this year, the situation of before will be utterly changed. and unless our leaders act to the contrary. if you've seen any sign of that action by our elected representatives, do let me know . in other news, we're me know. in other news, we're encouraged to fear, or at least to contemplate once more the threat of nuclear war. ursula von der leyen , president of the von der leyen, president of the european commission , told an european commission, told an audience in new york that russia threatens to use nuclear weapons once again. it's heinous, she said. it is dangerous . and in

said. it is dangerous. and in the shadow of hiroshima it is unforgivable, she really she wasn't hoping her listeners would infer her from her ambiguous words . it was russia ambiguous words. it was russia that dropped atomic bombs on two cities in japan . surely not in cities in japan. surely not in other news, also dangled tantalise before us is the threat, at least the rumour of an energy crisis. millions of people are wondering if they'll be able to keep their children warm this winter. and in other news, there's talk, too, of an apocalyptic financial crisis born ponzi scheme that is born of the ponzi scheme that is modern money and therefore the prospect that to be sold to us as solutions of central bank, digital currencies and digital ids that will entire ids that will trap entire populations in cages made not of barbed wire, but of technology . barbed wire, but of technology. in other news, millions of people are on the move. millions of people out of ukraine and millions from scores of countries besides flowing into europe and north america from places those people no longer want to whatever reason want to be. for whatever reason . who are we? i ask again , and . who are we? i ask again, and what is it that we care about?

what do we pay attention to? a world allegedly on the brink of nuclear apocalypse. it's a world in which wars must be forever to further the pockets of further line the pockets of those already rich beyond the dreams avarice, do we pay dreams of avarice, do we pay attention to what's really going on all around us all the time? or would we rather just watch the mob, the mainstream media mob, the online media mob doing what does , which is what the mob does, which is being for the next being always for the next sacrifice, next throat to be sacrifice, the next throat to be opened, next witch to be opened, the next witch to be burned. i see events are playing out as they are because the world is in the hands of people who care about nothing and no one profit and the all one except profit and the all controlling power unlimited controlling power that unlimited profit don't be fooled profit affords. don't be fooled into thinking it's about this ideology or that ideology is for the birds, yet more distraction for the well—meaning proles and fascism, socialism, communism and free market capitalism. it makes no difference. those in control and making the decisions care not a jot for ideology, or only inasmuch as it might get them what they want, which is to say more of everything . they

say more of everything. they care as much for the stuff of the natural world as they care for you and me, which is not at all. surely we must stop and all. but surely we must stop and ask questions when the history of might be being rewritten before our eyes. is this what happens while we are distracted? surely time to tune out the surely it's time to tune out the interference and watch the bigger picture. is this an attempt to have younger generations think those weren't the enemy after all? have we even forgotten what are in canada during the truckers rebellion , the popular movement rebellion, the popular movement that already feels like a half remembered dream , those men and remembered dream, those men and women were labelled by trudeau. it was claimed the honk honk of their horns was code for heil hitler. they were imprisoned , hitler. they were imprisoned, had their funds stolen, lost everything. but fast fonnard and a real life who fought to further the ambitions of adolf hitler is honoured as a hero of freedom . mentioned world freedom. mentioned world government and you're labelled anti semitic. but the so—called liberal government of canada hosts a the ultimate anti—semites . and what are the anti—semites. and what are the consequences? have the so—called

leaders of the west raised the alarm, or have they condemned what happened in that place on that day? has trudeau resigned or of his fellow or any of his fellow parliamentarians humbled by shame? i don't think any of that's happened, and i don't think it will. here's the thing. we're at a fork in the road from which there is no turning back. we open our eyes to the we must open our eyes to the much, bigger picture, see much, much bigger picture, see what's really going on. ask what's really going on. i ask again, are we and what is it again, who are we and what is it that we truly care about . that we truly care about. that's just my opinion. of course you can disagree and please tweet and email throughout the show. you can email gb views at gb news. .uk and you can tweet as well at gb news. and i'll try to get your comments later in the show . my comments later in the show. my guests, greg swensson of republicans overseas and lovely ingnd republicans overseas and lovely ingrid tarrant. thank you for being with me . greg, if i can

being with me. greg, if i can come to you. first of all, we were talking before the before this started about war in ukraine and we mentioned canada and what happened in the parliament. are we do we have our eyes completely off the ball courtesy of distraction? well i think there's a lot of distraction. >> there's also a lot of censorship , and i hate to use censorship, and i hate to use the word misinform , but this the word misinform, but this goes to the a lot of the rush to ukraine arguments that are being made. you mentioned the vaccines in your monologue. you know, obviously see the pushback. thank s to outlets like this. have been have been encouraged and or at least discussion has been encouraged. so it was really criminal about the lot going back three years now was really criminal is not only wasn't that their open dialogue about it but the government and these institutions like the w.h.o. these institutions like the who. and in the us, the cdc , who. and in the us, the cdc, they were they were censoring it. and we saw that in lying .

it. and we saw that in lying. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and they and they they made every effort to really not just criticise it because that would be discussion if they were criticising that's, that's an argument they weren't even doing that. they were having these people destroyed. if you signed the great barrington declaration and especially the leaders of it, there was an effort by fauci and the cdc and the government and the cdc and the government and the cdc and the government and the fbi and the doj to destroy , audit them and in many destroy, audit them and in many ways, it worked . and now we have ways, it worked. and now we have the outcomes of it . the outcomes of it. >> and it just seems to me that we're constantly being encouraged to look at things of relatively narrow , eligible relatively narrow, eligible importance every day when all of these things are unfolding around us. hundreds of thousands are dead in ukraine in a war that won't stop top. given standing ovations in the parliament. and a little girl bleeds to death on a london bus and we're encouraged to look the other way.

>> yes, we definitely are. it's all distraction . ian, do you all distraction. ian, do you know the soldiers in ukraine at the bakhmut border, their lifespan , or do you know how lifespan, or do you know how long it was for? four hours. four hours. now put that into context with what's going on there. how many are dying as we're on this show now? it's absolutely hideous. and you're right, nobody cares . as we look right, nobody cares. as we look the other way, we have distract nations. we don't we don't even have enough time focus on it have enough time to focus on it long enough before something else comes up to distract us. your monologue is full of them, and that's what they're doing all the time to us. >> is it that the >> greg, why is it that the mainstream media, the media prioritises inconsequential stories and praises itself for investigative journalism when the thousands are dying? >> it's amazing. and remember, the left and the media, same thing in most cases , used to be thing in most cases, used to be the antiwar party or the

democrats in the us and perhaps labour here. and that's that's really changed. but it's also they don't want you to have the information. they don't want to have the conversations, the discussions. they pick their narratives . and, you know, narratives. and, you know, whether it's whether it's the war or whether it's lockdowns, critical theory, this trans critical race theory, this trans nonsense that they teach in schools, they want that to be the policy. and if they don't want any debate about it, they don't want to have the conversation. and that's what they've been very successful at. and it's not just the mainstream media ignoring there is media ignoring it. there is downright censorship. you know, by the social media companies with pressure from the government . government. >> you read that propaganda, greg, is the spectre of censorship. and we've got the online safety bill in amongst everything else. i didn't even mention in amongst mention it, but in amongst everything else going everything else that's going on, the mechanisms, are the mechanisms, the tools are being place that will being put in place that will enable authorities make enable the authorities to make sure we literally cannot sure that we literally cannot talk proactive lviv talk about these proactive lviv propaganda . propaganda. >> deliberately doing >> they are deliberately doing that. feeding us with that. they're feeding us with this information. you

this information. and as you rightly say, it's they're not giving other side. we're giving the other side. we're giving the other side. we're giving other side here. giving the other side here. thankfully, at gb news, we have that ability. can have a good that ability. we can have a good discussion, a debate. the argument is great to have arguments. it's that form of debate. and let's see sort of like, you know, back it up, back it up. but we are completely silenced . and the awful thing is silenced. and the awful thing is that msm is so powerful. it's everywhere you look. you turn on the radio, you turn on the tv, you read your newspapers, and they're censored, but follow the money. you know, it's sort of like investigative journalists. you do get them out there, but if they write something that doesn't follow the narrative , doesn't follow the narrative, their story, their article won't be printed . be printed. >> and the products are coming back out. you know, people are being jabbed again in the states. some people above a certain age are being are being offered the jab here. you could see it already. >> you know, they're they're looking the next excuse to looking for the next excuse to have a lockdown. the jabs are out. people it's amazing in out. and people it's amazing in the mainstream. i was on a show

earlier this week talking about the censorship and i also argued that it turns out that the great barrington declaration , jay barrington declaration, jay bhattacharya was right it and then, of course, she said, well, that's your opinion . and well, that's your opinion. and well, actually they were right and lockdowns were destructive for children. and that's why parents are so important here, because they saw the firsthand destructive nature of lockdowns and mask mandates and vax mandates . and so at least let's mandates. and so at least let's have the conversation . and i have the conversation. and i wasn't, you know , my argument wasn't, you know, my argument wasn't, you know, my argument wasn't i'm right, you're wrong or great. barrington declaration was right. you're wrong, although they were right. but whether they were right or not, it should have been a conversation. there should have been a debate. and who? and cdc and fauci and all the acronyms shut it down. and they did it quite deliberately. it was no different than the, you know, the biden the new york post story and the hunter biden laptop. that's that's information you can argue about it. you can disagree. that's

fine . but it. you can disagree. that's fine. but don't it. you can disagree. that's fine . but don't censor it. fine. but don't censor it. >> that's really what fear they placed fear first brilliantly to brilliant. really good at it. >> of all of it. >> of all of it. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> is going to have to go into a break at the moment after which canadian parents have taken to the streets in cities across the country to tell the government they don't want their children taught transgenderism taught about transgenderism in school. be live

listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to neil oliver live now in canada. >> parents, families were out in the street protesting because of things that are being taught to their children in school, some of it without their knowledge, far their consent . it's far less their consent. it's interesting in many ways that to the fore were muslim families saying that they objected to government insistence that their child oren's education about these and other matters was none of their business. it's a

controversial topic, to say the least . joining me now to least. joining me now to consider the issue is canadian journalist david craydon of the postmillennial. david, thanks for joining me. real pleasure to forjoining me. real pleasure to be here, neal . david, actually, be here, neal. david, actually, before we get into the before we get into the schools protest the families protest that i mentioned earlier on the ovation for the in the canadian parliament. and i think your publication broke that story . publication broke that story. >> we were the first publication in canada to talk about it. yes. and it was with a little trepidation that i wrote the story and sent it to my editor because we didn't have 100% of the facts. but i know enough about that history and the first thing i noticed was that why were we honouring anybody who was fighting the russians during the second world war when the russians were our allies ? russians were our allies? canada, the united states, great britain, other commonwealth countries were allied with russia at that time . so

russia at that time. so obviously this guy was not fighting on our side. and i said, there's something wrong here. and of course any subsequent research revealed that, yes, he was part of the fourth waffen ss grenadier, galicia division, which changed its name to the first ukrainian division to distract attention from its origins. but clearly this was not only an international embarrassment , international embarrassment, this was a horrendous act by justin trudeau , and i blame justin trudeau, and i blame justin trudeau, and i blame justin trudeau, and i blame justin trudeau , not just the justin trudeau, not just the speaker of the house, former speaker of the house, former speaker of the house, former speaker of the house anthony rota. >> has there been any meaningful fallout ? have there been >> has there been any meaningful fallout? have there been any consequences beyond i saw the speaker of the house taking responsibility as though he had overruled the prime minister's office to make it happen. >> no, this is what's so frustrating is that justin trudeau has continued to distract attention from him. he never wants to take

responsibility or accountable for his own idiotic decisions. and the fact that he's supposed to be the leader of canada. he forgets that when it's convenient to do so, he has blamed the speaker. he threw the speaker under the bus. the speaker under the bus. the speaker took the bullet for him and then he has the gall to suggest this is all somehow related to russian propaganda and russian misinformation action. but we now know, neal , action. but we now know, neal, that the daughter in law of mr yaroslav hunka was posting on the very day he appeared a picture of hunka waiting to meet with justin trudeau and vladimir zelenskyy. so clearly both of them knew he was coming . both of them knew he was coming. both of them knew he was coming. both of them were very approving of it and they all were in on this together . together. >> it is it's a story that leaves, i think, most of us breathless with disbelief, really. but to park that there

for the moment, you know, i've really invited you along this evening to talk about the protest, the million people, however , it was badged up the however, it was badged up the strong protest in canadian towns and cities . it what was it that and cities. it what was it that what was it that pulled those people out onto the streets? >> well, this was a remarkable event in canadian history , and i event in canadian history, and i called it that. i don't know if we have ever had an event that attracted so many people. there were not just a million people were notjust a million people marching and it was billed as the 1 million marching and it was billed as the1 million march marching and it was billed as the 1 million march for children . there were probably about a 1.5 million people across canada to from halifax to vancouver who were out marching. and it was an all faith march . we had muslims all faith march. we had muslims , evangelical christians , roman , evangelical christians, roman catholics, jews , hindus, sikhs . catholics, jews, hindus, sikhs. we had people from all faiths .

we had people from all faiths. and it was a nonpartisan event. some political parties wanted to capture the event. the organisers insist, and everyone was welcome. and that's one of the reasons i became so involved in this, because it was non—partisan and i wanted to applaud my muslim friends for finally energising canadians to get off of their seats and to go into the streets and to say, we've had enough of this gender ideology in our schools. we've had enough of prime minister justin trudeau, provincial governments, school trustees and teachers unions saying they know best for our children. the state knows best and parents, but out andits knows best and parents, but out and it's time to say no. and so many parents feel the same way right now . right now. >> what what is the situation in since you raised that that the dichotomy, you know, is it the

when it comes down to it, is it the family or is it the state in canada that says what goes when it comes to children and do the parents have to be made aware of what decisions have been made about children? >> well , currently there are >> well, currently there are only two provinces is because educn ation in canada is a provincial mandate. unlike in the uk , it is a provincial the uk, it is a provincial mandate. so we only have two premiers standing up against what is essentially a denial of parents to even know if children under the age of 16 decide to change their gender and their pronouns . in new brunswick and pronouns. in new brunswick and saskatchewan are fighting back . saskatchewan are fighting back. the rest of the provinces are allowing a system where parents are not even allowed to know, let alone give their permission. if children want to do something as consequential as this . and i

as consequential as this. and i say children cannot buy a drink . they cannot get a pint of scotch , they cannot buy a fire scotch, they cannot buy a fire arm, they cannot vote . they arm, they cannot vote. they cannot drive a car. but somehow the education system says they can make a decision to change their gender, which could lead to chemical castration. i don't know anything thing more consequential than that. it's a lot more consequential than buying a pint of scotch . buying a pint of scotch. >> david beer with me. i have guests in the studio that i'd like to involve in in this conversation. greg, how do you react to that? you know, this idea that it's up to the state and not the parents. how how children are , how they exist children are, how they exist outside the home. >> it's completely outrageous. and it's another example of the government and these institutions that have either co—opted the government or been co—opted the government or been co—opted by unelected bureaucrats . and also you have bureaucrats. and also you have the, you know, the academia, for example. so you have all these institutions, but especially the

teachers unions that david pointed out and the government that are telling parents, we know best for your children . and know best for your children. and thatis know best for your children. and that is completely outrageous . that is completely outrageous. and i'm so glad to see the canadians taking it to the streets. it's not something that that i would have expected. and, you know, i always view canada as as more liberal or more left leaning, and perhaps they are. but this is people have just had enough. and it happened in the us already in the last two years. the pushback has been phenomenal it's happened phenomenal and it's happened here uk with great here in the uk with great organisations like us for them and you know, the hashtag together . yes, exactly. and the% together. yes, exactly. and the% of people who support this perverse idea that children should be allowed to identify by as whatever gender they want. that's gone from 53% support in the u.k. here in 2019 to 30% in 2022. it's happened all over the us as well. it's good news, ingrid. >> it was it's of interest to me

that it was multi—faith . yes. that it was multi—faith. yes. you know, the thing was being dnven you know, the thing was being driven at the grass roots by muslims is by by by christians , muslims is by by by christians, by sikhs, by whatever, across across that that something that disparate groups found union and unity in wanting to have a say about children that heartening because uh parents are parents it doesn't matter what colour what race you are you do know your children best. >> the government have no right to control this, and it's exactly right. you can't buy a drink. you can't do all those things that david mentioned until you're 18. in some places, 21. but, you know, i think the canadians are really proving themselves. i know exactly what you're saying . but look at the you're saying. but look at the truckers . they were absolutely truckers. they were absolutely superb. and it's really , really superb. and it's really, really good that there's a kick back. we need to do that all over the place. yeah. david how do you how do you react to that? >> you know, the strong sense

that that canada is really in the thick of it, that there's so much a hotbed of much it's a hotbed of controversial ideas . obviously, controversial ideas. obviously, the truckers rebellion that was so that was so severely quashed. and the rest. how do you react to the response? >> well, i'm heartened that to hear this today, i'm heartened what i'm seeing on social media because unfortunately , canada because unfortunately, canada has been far too much defined by this clown . and i don't use that this clown. and i don't use that term loosely. this clown , justin term loosely. this clown, justin trudeau, who embarrassed himself and has embarrassed the entire nafion and has embarrassed the entire nation every time he leaves the country and every time he makes domestic policy decisions. but canadians are all about this million march for children, canadians were all about the freedom convoy that came to ottawa and demanded the end of covid 19 mandates. that's what canada is still all about. canadians are about free speech and assembly. and that's exactly what justin trudeau and assembly. and that's exactly whatjustin trudeau is and assembly. and that's exactly

what justin trudeau is trying to destroy, because i don't know if you're aware of this. he's introducing canada's version of the online safety act in the fall, and it's got the same dire ramifications for free speech in this country . ramifications for free speech in this country. but ramifications for free speech in this country . but that's not this country. but that's not what canadians are all about. >> it's fascinating to hear that are so many of these stories that are that are taking root in in all of our countries and the response to them is , well, response to them is, well, energising, i would say. but david creighton from the millennial, thank you so much for your time this evening. i hope we'll speak again soon. another break after which we will continue to talk about the subject . we will continue to be subject. we will continue to be live with another canadian guest for the other side of the argument scene. a couple of minutes .

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live. i'm enjoying the company of greg swenson from republicans overseas and also journalist and commentator ingrid tarrant. we've been talking about protests in canada , specifically protests in canada, specifically around the topic of transgenderism and lgbt rights , transgenderism and lgbt rights, how it affects education and so on. how much, say parents ought to have over what their children hear at school. now, counter—protests were organised as well . and my next guest as well. and my next guest tonight was among the organisers of one of those, fareed khan of the organisation canadians united against hate . hello. united against hate. hello. fareed khan thank you for joining us. >> good evening. thanks for having me . having me. >> it's a pleasure to have you. first of all, should parents have the final say on their children's education or should or ought to be in the hands of the state and others ? the state and others? >> well, guess it depends on what that education is. if that education involves

indoctrinating the children to hate certain people , to be hate certain people, to be prejudiced, to be racist, to be bigoted, then no, i don't think that should rest in the hand of the parents. i think that the curriculum, the curriculum that it has been developed by experts, that has been adopted by ministries of education across the province in conjunction with teaching organised nations, is well researched and that should be the model that should be used unless of course, that curriculum also in some way promotes prejudice or hate . promotes prejudice or hate. >> have have canadian children in canadian schools been being taught that in recent times to hate it, as you suggest, is that the case? no they're not being taught to hate what they're being taught is that we have a diversity in our society and it includes people of all backgrounds. >> it includes people of different racial backgrounds, different racial backgrounds, different religious backgrounds, including different gender identities and the people behind

the 1 million identities and the people behind the1 million march identities and the people behind the 1 million march for children protest s are basically looking protests are basically looking at that and saying that, no, we don't want our children to be taught about this diversity. we don't want them to be inclusive and think that's dangerous because when hate, when that sort of indoctrination by parents saying to their children that , no, you parents saying to their children that, no, you know, parents saying to their children that , no, you know, these parents saying to their children that, no, you know, these people are bad or they're evil, which by the way, some children shouted in slogans, but their parents during some of these protests, then i think that's a very dangerous thing to allow to happen. very dangerous thing to allow to happen . we have hate crime laws happen. we have hate crime laws in this country, and there were some people in different parts of the country who were arrested or promoting hate speech and think that should say a lot about where these protests your organisation and yours was one of the organisations involved in the counter—protest. >> it's called canadians against hate . did did >> it's called canadians against hate. did did you encounter hate on the streets that day? >> well, the people from our

group who were out in different parts of the country, they stood toe to toe counterprotesting and they did see hate. they did see hateful messages. there was one incident where a teenage boy, you know , said, get rid of the you know, said, get rid of the gays , continually shout that gays, continually shout that there were people who were stomping on pride flags. now we wouldn't allow this sort of protest to happen, targeting a religious minority or a racial minority. so why should we allow it to happen ? target a gender it to happen? target a gender took . i take issue with what took. i take issue with what your previous speaker said, saying that canadians are behind this. no, canadians are not behind this. vast majority of canadians want a pluralistic and diverse society and the counter protests showed that, in fact , protests showed that, in fact, many places the counter—protesters were larger in number. protesters so i think that should be an indication . that should be an indication. >> i think i think what troubles a lot of people is the idea,

though , of their children though, of their children heanng though, of their children hearing a message that the parents are not aware of and furthermore, that children are able to take on a lifestyle or a rule or an identity away from home that their parents don't know about it. do you understand why some parents, particularly from traditional backgrounds , from traditional backgrounds, would want to would want to know , know what their children, how their children were identifying at school ? at school? >> well, i think that that's a that's misinformation because parents are told what children are being taught in school. and frankly , with regards to teen frankly, with regards to teen students , i think that students, i think that teenagers, once they walk out of the house, they do take on a different identity. i remember growing up as a teenager and the people that i associated with and they were very different at home, especially if they came from a traditional immigrant

background. then they were when they were out in public. so these these teenagers are already, you know, changing their identities they leave their identities when they leave their identities when they leave their i don't know how their home. so i don't know how this would any different if this would be any different if you bear with me , i'd like you bear with me, i'd like to involve guests the studio. involve my guests in the studio. >> ingrid, do you how do you react to the to the idea that it is up to the state to take on the role of telling children these fundamental has no right. >> it's all about control. they have no right. we are the parents of children. we know this different children have different needs. and the parents will identify with those different needs. you cannot blanket it's not teaching. it's telling. it's life experiences that they will learn about these things, but they won't learn it. and it's not a subject in a classroom to be learned and taught by somebody who hasn't got the ability to do that because they aren't well versed in it unless they are gay themselves. and in that sort of

like respect, you know, it's so dangerous and it's going to break families apart. and it's actually going to make children. it's going to really screw up their heads because they won't know if they're arthur or martha their heads because they won't know if titenderlrthur or martha their heads because they won't know if titender age.r or martha their heads because they won't know if titender age. and viartha their heads because they won't know if titender age. and that|a at a very tender age. and that is where will go from there ? >> greg, is there a how do you feel? i suppose what i'm asking is, is there an age at which it's too young for anyone to be talking to children on about these matters , about sex, about these matters, about sex, about genden these matters, about sex, about gender, about lifestyles ? you gender, about lifestyles? you know, is it something that ought to wait until a certain threshold? >> absolutely . and guess who >> absolutely. and guess who should decide that the parents the parents are the first and best advocate. it's for their children or any children , children or any children, really. and this is this goes back to edmund burke's , you back to edmund burke's, you know, society's little platoon is the family is the smallest of the platoons. and so the state should not be involved. this sounds the argument sounds like east germany in the 70s or the soviet union or the chinese,

where the state ruled all and people were ratting out their own parents and it's really dangerous. so any time you disagree, you know, if you want to teach your children about trans genderism, fine. go ahead and you'll know when your child is ready . is ready. >> anyway, that's your that's your choice. >> but don't let the state do it. >> a final question while i still have you, fred, can what are the numbers? you know and i in terms of pushing back, you know, what spilled billed a million people march a million people, you know , when it comes people, you know, when it comes to the counter—protest , how many to the counter—protest, how many were mustered for for the the opposite side of the argument? >> well, i think the largest crowds were in the big cities in ottawa. we had about 1000 protesters matched by an equal number of counter—protesters in toronto, was probably the biggest march. and it was probably a few thousand. also marched. actually, there were more counter—protesters in toronto than there were protesters . so the so—called protesters. so the so—called 1 million people march was

actually , you know, maybe, you actually, you know, maybe, you know, 20,000 people across the country who actually came out to protest and, you know, take it . protest and, you know, take it. >> sorry to leave it there . >> sorry to leave it there. fareed khan, just going to have to leave it because i've simply run out of time. so thank you very much for your contribution this evening . very much for your contribution this evening. i'm going to be coming up. we've got a church in surrey that will be holding a service for pets tomorrow. and we'll be speaking to the reverend to ask one simple question. why? but at question. why why? but in the at the moment, i'm going to be saying goodbye to my guests, greg ingrid tarrant. greg swenson and ingrid tarrant. thank much for being with thank you so much for being with me evening .

welcome back. once more to neil oliver live now, a church in surrey will hold services for pets tomorrow. dogs and cats and

all else besides, will be made welcome in three churches in the pansh welcome in three churches in the parish of badshot, lea and hale. joining me to contemplate the possibility of chaos is reverend stella wiseman. good evening, reverend wiseman. thank you for joining me . joining me. >> good evening, neil. >> good evening, neil. >> i really do have to ask you why , why, why are you opening why, why, why are you opening these church doors to dogs and cats and the rest when i was under the impression that churches were for folk ? churches were for folk? >> well , because dogs and cats >> well, because dogs and cats and all the rest are very much part of our families and they are something to celebrate. and we're doing this. we do this every year, very close to the feast day of saint francis of assisi, who was known for his love of animals around him. so and my goodness, pets are just such an important part of people's lives. and we want to celebrate that and give thanks

and bring them in. it's that's and bring them in. it's that's an interesting angle that you raise there. >> will you be will you be telling? i think there'll be a lot of children there, amongst others. will you be telling them about assisi, about saint francis of assisi, who a fascinating historical who is a fascinating historical figure . figure. >> well, we probably won't go into too much detail, but we will give thanks for him and for and for the sentiments that he expressed about , you and for the sentiments that he expressed about, you know, his love of nature and his understanding that we're all part of god's creation an and that these animals around us are very much part of what a loving god has created for us. and we're all created together . we're all created together. >> what form will the services take? i'm imagining there's probably a place there for all creatures, great and small , all creatures, great and small, all things bright and beautiful, beautiful as well. >> and a fabulous one called all

god's creatures. got a place in the choir which some sing low and something higher. and this is all about the how god's church is for everybody. and mean that's that's a metaphor for all people being welcomed. but also acknowledging the importance of all god's creatures. >> is it part of trying to give more people more reasons to come to church at all? i mean, is it partly is it partly driven by the need to pull in the audience , so to speak , pull in the , so to speak, pull in the audience like that? >> yeah. we're not a theatre, although there is something quite theatrical about church from time to time. it's quite theatrical about church from time to time . it's actually from time to time. it's actually we mostly expect people from our own congregation to be coming, bringing their dogs don't think they're most people bring the cat because we just don't want to. >> i'm just. >> i'm just. >> i'm just running out of time with you. there reverend. thank you so much. i hope it all goes well tomorrow. i hope everyone

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