are in manchester. of tories are in manchester. of course, the people's assembly protest is in full swing. that's live shots right there. they're hosting a festival of resistance in manchester with one clear message to is out now . and message to is out now. and coming up at the end of the houn coming up at the end of the hour, the windsor framework post—brexit trade arrangements come into force today . they will come into force today. they will break down what it means for those in northern ireland. and please, as ever, do get in touch. this is your show as much as ours. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials. of course, we're at gb news. but first, here's your news headunes first, here's your news headlines with . ray headlines with. ray >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. 1:01. our top stories . the prime minister has refused to commit to tax cuts as the conservative party conference gets undennay. rishi sunak says his focus is on halving

inflation because it impacts the poorest the most on a visit to burnley ahead of today's gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying it's a thatcherite policy i >> -- >> the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation and that's something that i'm deeply committed to. it's the first of my five priorities. why because that's how we can help people with the cost just want to cost of living. we just want to put in people's put more money in people's pockets. and the best way to do that is through that right now is through halving and that is halving inflation. and that is a deeply conservative approach to this. understand deeply conservative approach to this. is understand deeply conservative approach to this. is what understand deeply conservative approach to this. is what margaretitand that this is what margaret thatcher well, tax is set to thatcher did well, tax is set to be a key issue over the next four days, with more than 30 tory mps promising to not support the autumn statement if it contains any hikes. >> shadow health secretary wes streeting says they're right to question the pm's tax policies, including inheritance tax. >> after 13 years of conservative government we end up in a position where even its own mps are having to campaign against their unfair tax

policies. and i think conservative mps are quite right to say how is it that we've got the worst , to say how is it that we've got the worst, highest to say how is it that we've got the worst , highest tax to say how is it that we've got the worst, highest tax burden in 70 years? they should also be asking rishi sunak why he, instead of thinking about cutting taxes for working people, he's looking to give himself another super rich people a tax break by cutting a tax that affects 4% of people in this country. a tax cut that would earn him personally £300 million . million. >> meanwhile, protesters have been gathering outside of the conference in manchester calling for an end to the conservative government. some are holding signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. others are protesting against the minimum service levels act, defending the right to strike. and you can see now live pictures on your screen there from manchester of that protest . but protesters there saying end austerity now . well, a key end austerity now. well, a key part of the windsor framework has come into effect for northern ireland with a green

and red lane system to move goods from great britain. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie has more . beattie has more. >> as the protocol grace periods end, the framework document comes into place . although we comes into place. although we must say this is a phased approach. this today really affects the retailers , the large affects the retailers, the large supermarkets that have had problems with their supply chains and those using groupage may still face problems and that will really hit smaller retailers. but the real battle lines here will be drawn in january and right through to october next year when customs not only look at goods travelling from gb into northern ireland, but also from goods leaving ireland to go back in to the uk to shop . the uk to shop. >> shop owners are asking the home secretary to specifically outlaw attacks on retail staff . outlaw attacks on retail staff. close to 90 business leaders say the government should create a new offence of assaulting, threatening or abusing a retail

worker to bring english and welsh law in line with scotland . a survey from the british retail consortium found that incidents of violence nearly doubled in the 20 2122 financial year as compared with before the pandemic . like ofgem's energy pandemic. like ofgem's energy price cap has now fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. the average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. that's still more than 50% higher than pre—crisis levels. the government is yet to announce any financial support for struggling households . some for struggling households. some single use plastic items are now bannedin single use plastic items are now banned in england. businesses can no longer sell products like plastic cutlery, plates and polystyrene cups, and they face fines if they do. local authorities will be able to carry out inspections to make sure that the rules are being followed. and andrew crook is president of the national federation of fish friers he says people need to be educated

on how to recycle the new packaging. this is a product called bagasse, which is compostable. >> it's made from sugarcane, so it does have a carbon footprint because it comes from china. the problem is they look very similar to what's banned, which is the expanded polystyrene fine. so i think there's still an educational piece from the government for consumers about how dispose of them correctly how to dispose of them correctly if they don't find their way into and they're just into a bin and they're just discarded, just the discarded, they'll just act the same as and a of same as plastic. and a lot of it, even it ends up in it, even if it ends up in general waste, will either be incinerated to produce electricity end in electricity or end up in landfills. electricity or end up in lan this;. electricity or end up in lan this is gb news across the uk >> this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to gb news sunday with . martin and thank you very with. martin and thank you very much, ray. >> okay, let's get stuck now into today's hot topics. of course, the tory conference kicks off today in manchester with a promising start. labour's

lead over the tories has been slashed to just ten points, according to a new opinion poll from the observer published today . but it's not all good today. but it's not all good news for rishi sunak. the poll also found that only one third of 2019 tories are intending to vote for another party party? well, joining me now is gb news political correspondent catherine forth. the live from up there in manchester. so catherine, about that poll . well catherine, about that poll. well who would have thought the conservatives thought being conservative and the voters . conservative and the voters. well, they seem to like it . well, they seem to like it. >> well , it certainly would seem >> well, it certainly would seem that way. worth saying that it's just one poll, but it's the first poll for a long time that has put labour's lead over the conservatives at anything thing, like just 10, because pretty much for the last year or so since rishi sunak came in as prime minister, the polls have been consistently around 20 points ahead for labour. now

rishi sunak had hoped that his five pledges and delivering on those and of course they're not going terribly well, are they, that the polls would start to shift, but they really didn't. and so a couple of weeks ago we started to see a rather different rishi sunak rather more radical rishi sunak who seems to have dropped the safety first approach. so we had the softening on net zero targets and then we've had other policies like the i'm going to go out and bat for the motorists . the war on the motorist has got to stop. that was announced yesterday that , of course, yesterday that, of course, i think heavily influenced from the fact that the conservatives miraculously managed to hold on to uxbridge, having expected to lose it largely because of opposition to the ultra low emission zone and today, of course, the announcement is money for levelling up in towns. so i think rishi sunak will be heartened by that poll . but make

heartened by that poll. but make no mistake, he's going to have a pretty rough ride here. first of all, manchester is not a city that's particularly keen on the conservatives at the best of times. there's protests going on as we speak . and also, of as we speak. and also, of course, the government has spectacularly failed , failed to spectacularly failed, failed to say whether or not it's going to build hs2. right from birmingham to manchester. it looks very much like it's not not going to. and then of course, there's plenty of unhappiness within the conservative party itself. quite a lot of the mps have already made up their minds that they're going to lose the next election and so we see people who would rather like rishi sunak's job jostling for position position , jostling for position position, whether it's suella braverman, the home secretary, last week , the home secretary, last week, priti patel has been out and about. liz truss is going to be making a big speech about growth tomorrow and kemi badenoch to so lots of rather vociferous noises about what rishi sunak should or

should not be doing. so it's going to be an interesting few days. >> okay. catherine force live from the tory party conference in manchester. thank you. and we'll see you again in the next houn we'll see you again in the next hour. great stuff. okay. let's see what my panel make of this. now joined by novara now i'm joined by novara media co—founder, the co—founder, a friend of the show, aaron bastani, and political commentator benedict spence, pal of spence, who's also a good pal of the show. benedict, let's start with you. seems be with you. there seems to be a bit a polling bump. the first bit of a polling bump. the first bit of a polling bump. the first bit of a polling bump. the first bit of good news that rishi's had, it seems, in a blue moon. but talking of blue threat but talking of that blue threat , the reform party seems to be emerging a thorn in their emerging as a thorn in their side with echoes 2019. of side with echoes of 2019. of course, is the former course, this is the former brexit party. is there any coincidence think , that the coincidence you think, that the red meat that rishi is throwing out on things like hs2, which the promised to the brexit party promised to scrap on things like being kinder to motorists on things like getting tough with the echr ? or is this all timed around this conference to make the conservatives look, well, a bit conservative? i think it's more to do with giving the illusion

of a prime minister who is in control or at least is trying to be assertive. >> i think this is you know, i think he's been stung by the accusations from the labour party of in action, man. party of being in action, man. and think that there's a lot party of being in action, man. antruthiink that there's a lot party of being in action, man. antruth to: that there's a lot party of being in action, man. antruth to that. there's a lot party of being in action, man. antruth to that. he'se's a lot party of being in action, man. antruth to that. he's been ot party of being in action, man. antruth to that. he's been a of truth to that. he's been a prime minister to whom he inherited a rather rum lot, but to whom things seem to happen. you the war in ukraine you know, the war in ukraine happens nothing happens and there's nothing i can it. inflation can do about it. inflation happens. there's nothing i can really about and, you really do about it. and, you know, saw that with this sort know, we saw that with this sort of pledges, a lot of of his five pledges, a lot of aspects to were completely aspects to them were completely out this is out of his control. this is about prime minister trying to about a prime minister trying to reassert himself, show himself to who can grasp the to be somebody who can grasp the nettle, speak, and who can nettle, so to speak, and who can take difficult decisions, potentially unpopular decisions. i necessarily i don't think it's necessarily just conservative, just about being conservative, because lot of because i think a lot of conservatives too conservatives would be not too pleased, on the pleased, for instance, on the floated around making it floated rules around making it illegal for people under a certain smoke, that seems certain age to smoke, that seems rather that seems rather illiberal. that seems rather illiberal. that seems rather nanny state, but that's something he's pushing something that he's pushing fonnard, presumably because there to that there is polling to suggest that it certain part of it works with a certain part of his constituency. you know, he seems be throwing out a lot

seems to be throwing out a lot of different things to appeal to as he can. and the as many wings as he can. and the idea here i am coming up with idea is here i am coming up with stuff. does the labour stuff. what does the labour party to offer? because party got to offer? because you've say the labour you've got to say the labour party have been very sort of calm, but calm, very measured, but not what might inspiring what you might say inspiring because i that they've because i think that they've been cautious to try to get too ahead too early in ahead of themselves too early in case tories start stealing case the tories start stealing things case things things or in case things backfire. we this, of backfire. we saw this, of course, keir starmer going course, with keir starmer going to europe to and to europe to try and strike a deal to europe to try and strike a deal. week 10,000 deal. the very week that 10,000 people turned up in lampedusa. you timing is everything, you know, timing is everything, so so i he's so to speak. so i think he's just trying to take whatever initiative try initiative he can to just try and the public and the tory and show the public and the tory party. man of party. look, i am a man of action. you can trust me to actually act on things. >> aaron bastani is the inaction man. fine springing into action. is chance saloon man. fine springing into action. is the chance saloon man. fine springing into action. is the before:e saloon man. fine springing into action. is the before thealoon for the tories before the general election? >> definitely the >> well, it's definitely the last looking at last chance saloon. looking at the numbers, martin, 39% for laboun the numbers, martin, 39% for labour, is than labour, ironically, is less than what 2017. but 29% what they got in 2017. but 29% for tories would their for the tories would be their worst result ever . it's 3% worst ever result ever. it's 3% less corbyn got in 2019, less than corbyn got in 2019, and it is a terrible, terrible result if they get it. however,

in context of recent months, in the context of recent months, you're right to say it's a massive build massive improvement and to build on what you said with regards to reform, things could much reform, things could be much worse than that for the conservatives. by way, there conservatives. by the way, there is where the tories end is a world where the tories end up on less than 100 seats because they go to the centre. labour them labour absolutely smashes them and there's a party and as you say, there's a party to their right 510% of to their right getting 510% of the share because they the vote share because they didn't do the kinds of things they're so i think they're now doing. so i think this really emergency this is really emergency measures by rishi. i think they've moved away from a strategy forming a majority strategy of forming a majority and i think this is really about damage limitation. how many seats and who knows, seats can we keep and who knows, maybe hung parliament. maybe a hung parliament. >> that that >> benedict is that is that a fair assumption to make? i mean, is direction travel. is the direction of travel. we're seeing the fragmentation of vote. we're seeing of the tory vote. we're seeing labour a bit. is that labour wobbling a bit. is that heading more towards parity heading more towards a parity situation think that is it. parliament? i think that is it. >> i think it's the sort of the hail mary is maybe they hail mary throw is maybe they scrape with 1 or seats scrape him with 1 or 2 seats because unexpected things happen in different constituencies. maybe popular maybe an mp is very popular because takes a firm on because he takes a firm line on something that's very local. and

because he takes a firm line on sorrideaig that's very local. and because he takes a firm line on sorridea is that's very local. and because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then; very local. and because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then youy local. and because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then you do )cal. and the idea is then you do hamstring the labour labour party then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure.| have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure. maybe sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure. maybe fromt of bow to pressure. maybe from the liberal probably the liberal democrats, probably not but maybe, maybe, not the snp, but maybe, maybe, maybe the greens get a seat or two, but also no wings within the party itself. then the labour party itself. then start well, hang on, the labour party itself. then sta can well, hang on, the labour party itself. then sta can start well, hang on, the labour party itself. then sta can start to vell, hang on, the labour party itself. then sta can start to exert1ang on, the labour party itself. then sta can start to exert more)n, we can start to exert more pressure on the leadership ourselves begin to a ourselves and you begin to get a sort of a similar situation to what have the now, what you have in the tories now, which different factions which is different factions fighting against each other. it's great, you it's not looking great, you know, and as know, we can sit here and as aaron says, it's a massive bump, but it's still brilliant but it's still not a brilliant situation. say, though, situation. i would say, though, i reform are too and i think reform are too and i don't mean this in the environmental sense, they're too green. moment to green. i think at this moment to be considered a serious threat. i there's still i think there's still an election being election cycle away from being able push the tories. able to really push the tories. i most of those voters, if i think most of those voters, if they are faced with the prospect of a labour government at the next general election, i think when it comes to polling day, a lot of them will go. do you know what? actually, going to what? actually, i'm going to vote tories. i'm going vote for the tories. i'm going to the option. i think to take the safe option. i think we're still a good years we're still a good five years away reform, really making away from reform, really making that away from reform, really making tha and that's, course, what

>> and that's, of course, what we in 2019. that vote folded we saw in 2019. that vote folded back in at the last minute with the promise brexit done. the promise of get brexit done. looking to labour looking ahead to the labour conference, really looking ahead to the labour conianylce, really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that ilally looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that i can put any policies out that i can see that nothing concrete at all. need do that, do all. do they need to do that, do you do they just need you think, or do they just need to watch the tories implode? >> well, i think it's worse than that. the out that. they put the policies out and a 180 like we saw and then do a 180 like we saw with the private schools over the last week. the course of the last week. i think in a way starmer's offer is policies. saying, is not policies. he's saying, look, a better look, i can deliver a better country the basis of better country on the basis of better growth. i'm growth. how? because i'm not going going to tax going to i'm not going to tax people going be people more. it's going to be through the can live through the sorry, i can live a better standard of living for you through growth than you through growth rather than increasing give increasing taxes. how i'll give confidence investors confidence to foreign investors because i have nice haircut confidence to foreign investors becewe'll have nice haircut confidence to foreign investors becewe'll have and haircut confidence to foreign investors becewe'll have and we'lljt and we'll change and we'll change regulations change the planning regulations happens. and what people don't want as want to talk about is that is as fairy tale as a political offer, as liz truss was, right. the idea tax paid through idea of tax cuts paid through deficit you're deficit spending, when you're you've for you've not seen any growth for 15 not very smart. 15 years, that's not very smart. so labour's stance now to so labour's stance right now to me incoherent, incomplete me seems incoherent, incomplete , but like you say, that's held against the tories who frankly

have been a disaster for the last two, three years, but frankly also if you look at the last 13 years, haven't really got much to say that they've accomplished beyond, say, brexit. b rexit. >> brexit. >> okay . it's worth pointing out >> okay. it's worth pointing out as well in this same opinion poll , that the most poll today, that the most favoured prime minister in britain is none of the above . britain is none of the above. 37% would choose neither star armour nor rishi sunak. 37% would choose neither star armour nor rishi sunak . thanks, armour nor rishi sunak. thanks, guys, and stick around for the rest of the show of course. well, lots of you who've been getting in touch that opinion well, lots of you who've been gettialready uch that opinion well, lots of you who've been gettialready t01 that opinion well, lots of you who've been gettialready to the that opinion well, lots of you who've been gettialready to the showopinion well, lots of you who've been gettialready to the show on 1ion well, lots of you who've been gettialready to the show on that poll already to the show on that topic. daniel says this i think the open their the more labour open their mouths, more people get mouths, the more people get scared. that's why scared. and maybe that's why he's not saying much at all at the . on the topic, the moment. on the same topic, rob this call an election rob says this call an election then well , there was talk about then well, there was talk about this this morning. apparently rishi is favouring a spring poll but old guard like sirjohn but old guard like sir john redwood say no, no, just go full term to the autumn to give longer for things to go into effect. and let's face it, it would feel like turkeys voting for ask me if for christmas. if you ask me if they to the polls. now,

they went to the polls. now, john says this. over the next 3 to 6 months, that gap to 6 months, see that gap closing timing up to an closing timing leading up to an election is all important . john. election is all important. john. there is keeping the tory faith . frank has got this to add . . frank has got this to add. i've voted conservative since 1979, but no more . and 1979, but no more. and uncontrolled immigration is the reason it's reform uk for me from now on. well frank, you're one of that swing vote and it's even greater in the midlands . even greater in the midlands. 18. the swing to reform in the north, 12. could they be kingmaker as they were in 2019? well, keep those views coming in and of course subscribe to our youtube channel and follow us on our socials. we're, of course, at gb news. you're watching or listening to gb news sunday with me , martin daubney with aaron me, martin daubney with aaron and benedict. there's loads more coming up on today's show but coming up on today's show. but first, look your first, let's take a look at your weather greg dewhurst . weather with greg dewhurst. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest weather for gb news. we're looking at a mixed picture over the next few days , we will over the next few days, we will see some rain, some showers as

well, there'll be some warm well, but there'll be some warm spells of sunshine and turning drier as high moves in drier as high pressure moves in by middle of the week. by the middle of the week. pressure pattern at the moment is dominated low pressure, is dominated by low pressure, bringing rain bringing in spells of rain across the country and we've got patchy rain across southern parts into the midlands parts of wales into the midlands as we move through this evening time. generally remaining time. this generally remaining cloudy across the southern half of the uk, further north, drier, clearer spells, but a scattering of showers over northern ireland, northwest scotland, some of these heavy at times being blown in on a brisk breeze. and temperatures across the board generally staying in double figures. a muggy start to monday morning, a cloudy start. southern counties of england and wales patchy rain developing as we move through the morning and into afternoon. this into the afternoon. some of this rain at times rain could be heavy at times brighter skies for northern ireland, northern england and scotland with a scattering of showers staying showers. again staying quite windy across the northwest of scotland and temperatures high teens to low 20s across the board into tuesday. we continue

to remain fairly unsettled . to remain fairly unsettled. we'll see showers or longer spells of rain. we'll see some sunny spells, though , developing sunny spells, though, developing in between cloud across the southeast taking its time to clear. and temperatures generally again reaching the high into the low 20s for high teens into the low 20s for many and then high pressure starts to build in towards the middle of the week. temperatures near average . near average. >> thank you very much, greg. lots more on today's show and not everyone is happy the tories are in manchester for the people's assembly. protest is in full swing right now with one clear message. tories out now that's a more to come. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news, britain's news channel . news, britain's news channel.

news. the people's channel. britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, martin daubney on your tv , online and on your on your tv, online and on your digital radio. well, whilst the conservatives are holding their party conference in manchester, the people's assembly are marching to protest against the government backed by major trade unions . the group's message is unions. the group's message is clear they want an end to tory rule . well, joining me now is gb rule. well, joining me now is gb news deputy political editor tom hannood . tom, no tory party will hannood. tom, no tory party will be complete without its party poopers. who are this mob and what do they want? >> yes, it's really interesting being here at a sort of more

fruitful end of the conference scene. we've got an interesting group of people marching with one simple message. they want the tories out, but amongst this group of people and it is a really diverse group, i suppose lots of different organisations, some trade unions, the communist party, some marxist—leninists, all sorts of flavours of left winger. in one big march, but all marching for one reason. they want the tories out of power. but it's more than that. there are slogans here. there are people who disagree on some things. for example, the gentleman behind me is clearly very much in favour of the european union. there's also the there's also the communist party marching here, who of course, are in favour of leaving the european union. so these people aren't agreeing on aren't always agreeing on absolutely everything thing. so it is interesting to see how this sort of ragtag group of people come together to march against the governing party, as

of course , is their right in a of course, is their right in a free and democratic society. but there have been some interesting slogans on this march, some people covering their faces with masks , presumably to avoid masks, presumably to avoid identity action. people chanting against the police, for example, saying that we shouldn't have police forces calling the police all sorts of names under the sun. but generally, this has not been a violent protest. it has been a violent protest. it has been a violent protest. it has been a spirited one. and that , i been a spirited one. and that, i suppose, can be welcomed in a democrat society. we've had some charming boos as well from those in the audience and on the march, i should say. and that is a delight . march, i should say. and that is a delight. but it is, of march, i should say. and that is a delight . but it is, of course, a delight. but it is, of course, a delight. but it is, of course, a delight. but it is, of course, a delight to see the flavour of democracy marching along the streets of manchester and i don't think that many people would want to have it any other way . way. >> well, tom hannood, thank you for joining in there and doing forjoining in there and doing very well in the face of some heckling in your ear there and well done to the cameraman for making sure that viewers

making sure that the viewers couldn't see couldn't hear it. so let's see what make of this. now, what my panel make of this. now, of course, i'm rejoined by novara media co—founder aaron bastani and political commentator . commentator benedict spence. aaron, i'll come to you first. as he said, a gaggle of those from the left socially communists supported by jeremy corbyn, caroline lucas, ken loach, owen jones , bob crow from loach, owen jones, bob crow from the rmt . what are they really the rmt. what are they really after? are they just out there to cause trouble or is this just about annoying the tories or do they actually have a serious chance of getting back in power? what are they after? >> well, i feel like i'm missing out. when you list those names, i feel like i should perhaps be somewhere else today. what they're after is really interesting. you know, i think those actually those people protesting actually represent middle england on a bunch of issues public ownership of water, public ownership of rail, ensuring that people aren't, you know, completely slammed on things like energy pnces slammed on things like energy prices as later on this year to increase things like home ownership, to reduce inequality. that's not to say that they're

their middle england on every issue , but on a bunch of issues issue, but on a bunch of issues they absolutely are . and the they absolutely are. and the conservatives are very much out of . you know, the of touch. you know, the conservatives support conservatives don't support pubuc public ownership of water, yet a majority plan to majority of people that plan to vote, do . so i think you vote, tory, do. so i think you shouldn't just label them as kind eccentrics kind of like eccentrics and irrelevant. actually irrelevant. i think actually they mainstream they represent mainstream opinion bunch of things. opinion on a bunch of things. what find really interesting what i find really interesting was the gentleman with the eu flag. there was flag. yeah, because there was actually earlier actually a rejoin rally earlier on . it was significantly on today. it was significantly smaller than the support smaller than the one in support of bullies that protest of xl xl bullies that protest you saw there is whether you agree with them or not. representative of a very large body of public opinion in this country. on the things i just mentioned, for instance, and i'm worried actually i see that worried actually when i see that gentleman the flag gentleman with the eu flag at the he's diluting their the front, he's diluting their message attaching what message and he's attaching what are very important demands around ownership, around public ownership, reducing to a battle reducing inequality to a battle which been lost on european which has been lost on european union membership and which should be relitigate should not be relitigate started. yeah, we've the excel. >> we've also had the eu bullies. in fact, juvenile presenters radisson over

presenters around radisson over there at at the march last there at the at the march last saturday. but back to this protest today . do you think that protest today. do you think that the they're emboldened , these the they're emboldened, these protesters, by the whiff of power and anyway or many people at that march today even supportive of keir starmer somebody who they would call a blairite. >> it is a sort of an odd people's front of judea judean people's front of judea judean people's front of judea judean people's front sort of amalgamation of people. and we all know it is that they all know what it is that they don't stand for, actually if don't stand for, but actually if you to get them into a room you were to get them into a room and say right a coalition, and say right form a coalition, it wouldn't go very it probably wouldn't go very well. know, these are well. you know, these are i think in the sense think aaron's right in the sense that represent a lot that they do represent a lot of middle england's views. but these the these are by and large, the worst people to sort of front that as you there that because, as you say, there is of sort of i think, to is a lot of sort of i think, to put it politely, you'd say eccentricity rather than extremists. these are people who have quite, know, have made quite, you know, fringe or fringe aspects of politics or identities around europe. part of core. and of their sort of core. and i think most people in think actually most people in middle england would sort of look that go, well, look at that and go, well, that's and good. that's all very well and good. i too don't tories in too don't want the tories in government, you wouldn't too don't want the tories in gover meent, you wouldn't too don't want the tories in gover meent, on)u wouldn't too don't want the tories in gover meent, on this ouldn't too don't want the tories in gover meent, on this sortn't too don't want the tories in gover meent, on this sort of a catch me going on this sort of a march. actually think it

march. and actually i think it dilutes the message, which is that what see front that if you what you see front and centre in terms of opposition to tories is a opposition to the tories is a labour that doesn't really opposition to the tories is a labotto that doesn't really opposition to the tories is a labotto say that doesn't really opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, sn't really opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, youreally opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, you know, want to say anything, you know, including actually including things on actually what popular what would be quite popular measures of measures like nationalisation of rail, improving the water industry. nuclear industry. i don't know, nuclear power, know, power, whatever, you know, majority timid tories are in favour ideas . the thing favour of those ideas. the thing and things actually and those are things actually that i think a lot of labour voters behind and voters would get behind and actually a of actually therefore a lot of swing get behind swing voters would get behind because they're not necessarily left nothing left wing. there's nothing left wing about saying, well, let's keep in british keep british pounds in british pockets rather than send them off shareholders germany off to shareholders in germany or that's or holland. i think that's actually of actually something lots of people if people can get behind. but if this the of face of this is the sort of the face of it the labour party is just it and the labour party is just sort on its hands going, sort of sat on its hands going, well, not try to say well, let's not try to say anything too controversial. it offers the tories faintest offers the tories that faintest glimmer offers the tories that faintest glimriflr offers the tories that faintest glimrif this is what the well, if this is what the opposition looks like, why can't we mary pass? we throw the hail mary pass? i will back to you, will quickly come back to you, aaron, on that point most of aaron, on that point of most of the on that march the people on that march there would horrified idea would be horrified at the idea of getting into power. >> what it they >> so what is it that they actually want? they don't want a labour if it's a keir labour government if it's a keir starmer government. labour government if it's a keir starmer go don't|ent. labour government if it's a keir starmer go don't know. you know, >> yeah, i don't know. you know, i lots of people

i think there's lots of people who pragmatic in who are very pragmatic in politics on both sides of the debate right and left, and i think people might not think many people might not personally starmer, think many people might not per! they ly starmer, think many people might not perstheyly he's starmer, think many people might not perstheyly he's much|er, think many people might not perstheyly he's much better but they think he's much better than the alternative. and look, it the way. there it works. the other way. there are conservatives who are lots of conservatives who weren't by weren't hugely impressed by bofis weren't hugely impressed by boris but they boris johnson in 2019, but they made decision that boris johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred decision that boris johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him decision that boris johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him to :ision that boris johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him to jeremyiat they preferred him to jeremy corbyn. think corbyn. so i don't think everybody there will on everybody there will agree on everything. as benedict says, i think there is probably a minimal demands around minimal set of demands around pubuc minimal set of demands around public inequality and public ownership inequality and like like like you say, things like nuclear being like you say, things like nuclear there. being like you say, things like nuclear there. that's, being like you say, things like nuclear there. that's, i being like you say, things like nuclear there. that's, i thinkg reflected there. that's, i think most people support. and yet it doesn't seem to happen. and it's really for me. of really frustrating for me. of course, we should talk about things left right basis, things on a left right basis, but actually is but actually there is a consensus on a bunch issues consensus on a bunch of issues in life country. in public life in this country. for when pundits for some reason, when pundits talk centre , it talk about the centre, it doesn't to reflect any of doesn't seem to reflect any of them. yeah, great gents. them. yeah, great points, gents. >> very much. and >> thank you very much. and again, for the rest >> thank you very much. and agthe for the rest >> thank you very much. and agthe show. for the rest >> thank you very much. and agthe show. you're for the rest >> thank you very much. and agthe show. you're watching st >> thank you very much. and agthe show. you're watching or of the show. you're watching or listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me. martin loads more me. martin daubney loads more coming up yet on today's show, including framework including the windsor framework post—brexit arrangements post—brexit deal arrangements come into force. today. will break down what that means for businesses in northern ireland. but first, here's your news with

ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. 130. here's our top stories this hour. the prime minister has refused to commit to tax cuts as the conservative party conference gets undennay . party conference gets undennay. rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most . impacts the poorest, the most. on a visit to burnley ahead of today's gathering, the pm insisted that his approach is deeply conservative. >> the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation action. now that's something that i'm deeply committed to. it's the first of my five priorities. why? because that's can help people that's how we can help people with of living. we just with the cost of living. we just want to put more money in people's the people's pockets. and the best way that now is way to do that right now is through inflation. and through halving inflation. and that conservative through halving inflation. and that this. :onservative through halving inflation. and that this. andervative through halving inflation. and that this. and my:ive approach to this. and my colleagues that this colleagues understand that this is what margaret thatcher did. >> meanwhile protesters >> well. meanwhile protesters have outside the have been gathering outside the conference in manchester, as we've been seeing. they've been calling for an end to the

conservative government . some conservative government. some are signs reading bring are holding signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. others are protesting against the minimum service levels act, defending the right to . strike a key part of the to. strike a key part of the windsor framework has come into effect for northern ireland, with a new system introduced to move products from great britain to goods which are being transported to the eu will use a red lane which includes customs declarations and some checks. while those bound for northern ireland will use a green lane with minimal papennork and no checks. not for eu labels will start appearing on some products in stores and ofgem's energy price cap has now fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. the average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. that's still more than 50% higher than pre—crisis levels. the government is yet to announce any financial support for struggling households . well,

for struggling households. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . at gbnews.com. >> thank you very much for that, ray. okay, businesses bringing goods into northern ireland will follow different rules from today as the new post—brexit trade arrangements come into force. rishi sunak negotiated the windsor framework with ursula von der leyen of the eu back in february and they both believe it will reduce papennork and checks for companies. but how are the new rules working in practise? well joining me now is our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie. good afternoon to you, dougie. dougie beattie. good afternoon to you, dougie . well, can we to you, dougie. well, can we start an explainer as to start with an explainer as to what is happening today? please well , good afternoon and welcome well, good afternoon and welcome to the new eu border. >> it is , of course, they call >> it is, of course, they call it an irish sea border, but it's

really in the docks behind us here. and what happens is the any goods that's coming straight into northern ireland will stay into northern ireland will stay in the green lanes and they are meant stay here and not go meant to stay here and not go into the eu, i.e. the republic of ireland. and that is really it's a phased in approach to the windsor framework because rishi sunak oversold the framework document when he came here first, calling it the greatest deal of all, and we would have access to all markets. but of course businesses back then didn't actually get ready for it because they said it was going to be so easy and what happened was in july this year , just was in july this year, just a couple of months back, the regulations for this was still not in place. people didn't know exactly happening , what not in place. people didn't know exacgoing happening , what not in place. people didn't know exacgoing go happening, what not in place. people didn't know exacgoing go intonpening , what not in place. people didn't know exacgoing go into theing , what not in place. people didn't know exacgoing go into the green ihat was going to go into the green lanes and what was going to go into red lanes. so as into the red lanes. so as a result, what this today is result, what this is today is really the side of the really the retail side of the green lanes and red lanes and anything that is to come in from britain saying that task goes or sainsbury's will travel from point to point the manifest of

the lorry that it's carrying will have gone to the eu and then that should slip straight through and to his designated spotin through and to his designated spot in the retail markets. well, that's okay if you're a big company and you have lots of refrigerated lorries and of course refridge great units to store the stuff in because northern ireland has what's called a just in time chain food chain here, because the longer that you have to keep food in cold storage, well, the more expensive that becomes, especially with the price of energy where it is now and it continues to go up. so therefore , this is an easy way of bringing that stuff from the mainland straight into this part of the uk. and keeping those costs down. so that should leave us back to where we were post our prior to brexit and all should work well at that point. but when you bring into it that there's group haulage that goes in and that's lorries that are stopping on the way through england , scotland, wales picking england, scotland, wales picking up goods that haven't that are

not on the manifest . that means not on the manifest. that means serious papennork and they will have to go into the red lanes. so in one way it is a good thing. it is easing that pressure on big supermarkets here. but there's still a lot to play here. but there's still a lot to play for . if i here. but there's still a lot to play for. if i was a cynic, i would say that maybe this was to put pressure mainly on the unionists more than anything, because can guarantee that because you can guarantee that there will be tv cameras in there will be tv cameras in there from selected media who will be filming this. and on monday night it will all be saying what was the fuss over everything ? things going well. everything? things going well. and of course, that's not the point, real big point, because the real big point, because the real big point the framework document point of the framework document still have to come into place and they won't be coming into place anytime between january and this time october next year . and they will represent customs declarations and what is not only coming in to the province , but also going out, province, but also going out, because as i said, it has to have final destination on it. so we now have this ridiculous situation that we have big

posters on the outside of shops saying goods in here, not for resale in the eu, but people can come across the border from the repubuc come across the border from the republic of ireland, buy those goods and go back into the eu with well being on checked . but with well being on checked. but this this indeed will have very serious knock on effects for other companies, not only in northern ireland but in the republic. >> yeah, that was going to be my next question. so you've outlined very clearly what it means for northern ireland's trade, the trade, but what about for the repubuc trade, but what about for the republic ireland? what does republic of ireland? what does it mean them? well now we're it mean for them? well now we're getting down to it because this is about the protection of a single market. >> and of course, the eu is part of that single market is the repubuc of that single market is the republic of ireland the only republic of ireland and the only part the uk that has land part of the uk that has a land border with eu is northern border with the eu is northern ireland. in order to stop so ireland. so in order to stop so the republic of ireland has about £24 billion of exports from the republic into britain every year and in amongst those are manufacturing. and of course that's where i where i sit very

firmly in agriculture . and that firmly in agriculture. and that if you look at the beef sector in the republic of ireland, 43% of their beef market is with the uk and about 1.3 to £1.4 billion worth of dairy products come from the republic republic of ireland into the uk. so the republic's government is treading a very thin line here because if they put on an enforce and get the eu to enforce and get the eu to enforce too much regulation here, that will of course be merged going back into britain when these customs declaration actions come into place, going the opposite way. and if the unionists get their wish of unfettered access into the uk from northern ireland, well that means that an awful lot of the republic's trade will be coming straight across a borderless country into northern ireland and the goods will be flowing out of northern ireland's ports and into the uk and you can bet your bottom dollar they will not want that happening and that trade moving from the eu into

northern ireland. so this is the real sticking point politically in northern ireland and why unionists are not engaging with the government . because if you the government. because if you take goods from component parts from britain that are going to be manufactured here because it's manufacturing and there's no final destination for the product when it's assembled , it product when it's assembled, it means, well, they're going to go into red lanes. okay dougie beattie thank you for that update live from belfast. >> stocks on this historic day. okay. let's see what my panel make of this now. i'm rejoined by the novara media by the lads novara media co—founder aaron bastani and political commentator benedict spence. benedict i'm going to start with you . an historic start with you. an historic moment . many who start with you. an historic moment. many who campaigned for brexit, it said from the very, very beginning, the day that the withdrawal agreement was published in october 20th, 2019, that northern ireland was going to be a huge sticking point. we first saw the border down the irish sea. now we're seeing this many people on the unionist side of the equation will say this is

a surrender of british territory to the eu. >> today i can see why they think that it's a very difficult, complex issue because it's not simply about, i think the relationship between trade or anything like that. it's also about long term. i think what london views the future of northern ireland being. and i think that the thing that is sort of sotto voce about that attitude is that london doesn't particularly care about northern ireland. i think that that has become clear become increasingly clear throughout it throughout this process that it was sort of an afterthought and that actually this is that actually that this just is an aspect of a negotiation that is ongoing. it's continuous, and we still haven't reached the final point of that. we probably never will. it'll keep on being something which something around which things are changed. suppose the are changed. but i suppose the perspective of the unionists is , is their ace in the hole. i suppose is that we can't really the republic of ireland can only go so far in terms of what its attitude towards the uk is. yes, the of ireland part the republic of ireland is part of european but it is of the european union, but it is actually very reliant on a

positive relationship with the uk. it can only sort of push that so far and that would be the case even if the six province of northern ireland are six counties rather adjoined. the republic of ireland, it would be beholden on would still be very beholden on the all sorts of things. the uk for all sorts of things. trade being important so trade being an important one. so it's complex issue in it's a very complex issue in that is going to be that it is going to be continuously evolving . obviously continuously evolving. obviously you have the unionist side that is losing support sort of every year still actually holds, year but still actually holds, i think , a lot of sway, a lot of think, a lot of sway, a lot of power it that sort power in that it has that sort of stranglehold over the progress politics in northern progress of politics in northern ireland. it's not something that is resolved and it is going to be resolved and it never going to be something never was going to be something that was going resolved that was going to be resolved easily. and think that easily. and i think that that is one that one of the few things that i think could criticise think you could criticise brexiteers legitimately, legitimately for saying is completely this. legitimately for saying is com again, this. legitimately for saying is com again, go this. legitimately for saying is com again, go back this. legitimately for saying is com again, go back to this. legitimately for saying is com again, go back to whatis. legitimately for saying is com again, go back to what i. and again, go back to what i said it how said at the start. it shows how little people london little i think people in london really attention what really paid attention to what was ireland. was going on in ireland. >> aaron michel was >> i, aaron michel barnier was quite would quite clear that ireland would be a sticking point and negotiations all the wedge issue and now the windsor and here we are now the windsor framework eunice . we

framework hated by eunice. we still have a sitting still don't have a sitting parliament in ireland as a consequence how you consequence of this. how do you think today will be remarked? is it surrender or a failure or it a surrender or a failure or is actually get on with it? >> well, there isn't a parliament in the north of ireland because frankly, unionists unwilling to unionists are unwilling to accept that a political hegemony probably from here on in as a result of just demographics on the island, on the of the the island, on the north of the island, rather favour republican and favour irish nationalists . and favour irish nationalists. so it's an interesting one because on the one hand you look at this and you think, well, it's quite an elegant solution. nobody's really lost out. it's a sticking plaster . but politics sticking plaster. but politics often sticking often works with sticking plasters quite well. they endure for move for ten, 20 years. people move on. other hand, on. but on the other hand, i think it's symbolic really, of a deepening between great deepening divide between great britain northern ireland, britain and northern ireland, between london and belfast and i think realistically in the next 20, 25 years, we will see a form of irish unification. what i find fascinating, however, is , find fascinating, however, is, is what form that will take, because from the perspective of somebody who lives in the north of ireland having citizenship of

both the is both the republic and the uk is a alluring being to a very alluring being able to access both, the uk, access both, you know, the uk, but be a european citizen but also be a european citizen is a very attractive proposition. would you want to give up? the second give one of those up? the second one is of course the republic doesn't something the doesn't have something like the nhs, to nhs, so there are real costs to irish unification for people in the i do think this the north. but i do think this is symbolic of the path that the island as a whole now going island as a whole is now going down, which unification . down, which is unification. >> okay, gents, we're going to leave there. we'll rejoin leave it there. we'll rejoin you, course, later the you, of course, later in the show. lots you have been show. now lots of you have been getting touch your views getting in touch with your views on opinion poll. on the latest opinion poll. that one labour one that's put the labour lead to ten points out today in to just ten points out today in the observer, korine says this rishi did not inherit this mess . he instigated it by getting rid of boris johnson. he deserves all he gets. korine a bofis deserves all he gets. korine a boris loyalist till the end there. graham says this i think labour have peaked too soon. they benefited from the mess liz truss caused . things are calming truss caused. things are calming now and labour are not offering anything and indeed we did say will the real chaos starmer please stand up, give us some

policies . as christian says, policies. as christian says, this , rishi is thinking about this, rishi is thinking about what sensible and realistic in the long term , and the home the long term, and the home secretary understands that compassion needs to be realistic and that compassion towards the uk needs to be balanced with compassion towards immigrants . compassion towards immigrants. christian, a lovely balanced view there. keep those views coming in throughout the show. okay, there's loads more coming up on today's show, including liz truss is leading a growing rebellion in the tory party calling for the government to cut taxes. but should we be listening to the former prime minister i'm martin daubney and this is gb news, britain's news channel

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, martin daubney on your tv, online and on your digital radio. let's truss is spearheading a tory revolt over tax cuts at the tory party conference from the fringes, the former prime minister will lead a fringe event dubbed the great british growth rally tomorrow, putting pressure on rishi sunak over the economy. a number of top tories seem to be on her side. dame priti patel will be a guest at the event , as well as guest at the event, as well as jacob rees—mogg and ian duncan—smith. and this is what the levelling up secretary, michael gove, had to say on the issue the camilla tominey issue during the camilla tominey show earlier on today. every every conservative wants to bnng every conservative wants to bring taxes down and to reduce the tax burden . the tax burden. >> but the thing we must do

first is to bring inflation under control. the biggest tax cut that we can give to the country is bringing inflation down. but naturally, whenever conservatives can an we always want to cut taxes and the colleagues who are making that argument are to my mind, simply making the argument that all of us in government believe in as well. >> so should our current prime minister be paying more attention to the calls of his predecessor ? well, joining me predecessor? well, joining me now is chief economic adviser at the centre for economics and business research, vicky pryce. vicky it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. so yesterday the tories were revolting on tax promise , vowing revolting on tax promise, vowing to never raise it again. 33 of them today say the conservative growth group wants a death tax abolished. and also they want to slash corporation tax. but tell me this. why should we listen to liz truss ? liz truss? >> well, it's a good point, but of course we should listen to

her, mainly because she does represent quite a substantial part of what the conservative party actually thinks . and we've party actually thinks. and we've heard, of course , also from heard, of course, also from rishi reiterating that he rishi sunak reiterating that he is in favour, of course, of lower taxes generally, and we've heard from lots of others, heard it from lots of others, including earlier . including michael gove earlier. so as if she's not so it's not as if she's not talking in response to what perhaps lots of party members want. and possibly, you know, those who might want to vote conservative. and you mentioned the opinion polls just recently , just a few minutes ago, but what of course , is the issue is what of course, is the issue is whether the government can afford to do so, given that we've been through a very difficult period, through covid. the debt is at very high levels , nearly 100% of gdp at and what's happening right now, of course , is the government has course, is the government has had to rein back a little bit in terms of that spending and also has had to raise a bit more money in to order start meeting some of his fiscal rules. and what we've seen, of course, is

that rates have gone up. we've said corporation tax rate. you rightly mentioned that one, which has gone up to 25% from 19% where liz truss wants to see that reduced. well, that raised about 80 odd billion pounds last yean about 80 odd billion pounds last year. so you've got to watch what you wish for because of course you could make quite a big difference in terms of what the government is able to do on the government is able to do on the fiscal front more generally. and why have and that's why you have all these perhaps , you these calls now to perhaps, you know, not go ahead with the second leg of hs2 to and also the thames link, you know, undennater link, which is supposed to also cost about £9 billion, which may well be scrapped as well. so those pressures are still there. how you can then lower taxes while you're having all these problems is a big question mark, i think, for the economy as a whole. >> okay, vicky bryce, thank you for excellent analysis. for that excellent analysis. back to panel. aaron bastani back to my panel. aaron bastani ben, aaron, i've got ben, on expense. aaron, i've got to with you. there's a lot to start with you. there's a lot of noise from the fringes of noise coming from the fringes from truss. she's she's from liz truss. she's she's saying things that a saying a lot of things that a lot of tory voters would like to

see happen. slashed taxes , put see happen. slashed taxes, put more in pocket. more money back in the pocket. but government we but the government is saying we can't it. i'll ask you can't afford it. so i'll ask you this. the point liz this. what's the point of liz truss? this. what's the point of liz tru:well, i understand that >> well, look, i understand that conservative voters to be conservative voters want to be paying conservative voters want to be paying tax . i conservative voters want to be paying tax. i get conservative voters want to be paying tax . i get it. conservative voters want to be paying tax. i get it. but paying less tax. i get it. but realistically , inflation is realistically, inflation is still quite high and growth is still quite high and growth is still very low and whether you're right, left centre , you you're right, left centre, you want to generate more wealth in the economy and distribute that in a certain way that will benefit whoever is voting for you. the labour party, that you. for the labour party, that means more invest public means more invest in public services. tories, that means means more invest in public sencuts. tories, that means means more invest in public sencuts. thates, that means means more invest in public sencuts. that has1at means means more invest in public sencuts. that has to means means more invest in public sencuts. that has to come.; tax cuts. but that has to come. that has to come after the growth reducing inflation growth and reducing inflation parts. question parts. and so the question then is, do get growth? is, well, how do you get growth? and i would and this is where i would severely significantly severely and significantly disagree liz disagree with somebody like liz truss, as she is truss, because as she is monomaniacal , like sadly too monomaniacal, like sadly too many conservatives , that the many conservatives, that the only thing the government can do to generate generate the to generate growth, generate the wealth we need economy wealth we need in the economy that benefits everybody or at least is by cutting least most people is by cutting taxes and this monomania speaks to the fact that actually

politicians in this country don't really want to work hard at overcoming the challenges we all face rather than actually have to think properly. okay what do we do regarding infrastructure, housing policy, labour policy , industrial labour policy, industrial policy, educate foreign policy? they don't think about any of that. broadly speaking, they outsource almost all of it to the market. so they don't have to think. or back in the day, the european union. so they don't think and they don't have to think and they say, reduce say, okay, let's just reduce taxes. much more taxes. it's much more complicated taxes. it's much more con benedict taxes. it's much more conbenedict i mean, as messiahs >> benedict i mean, as messiahs 9°! >> benedict i mean, as messiahs go, she's not very good one. go, she's not a very good one. >> you know, her prime ministerial tenure about ministerial tenure was about as long christ the cross. long as christ was on the cross. and career dying and and now her career is dying and resurrecting. caesar's resurrecting. so that caesar's renderings take will be renderings in tax take will be slightly less. maybe knows? renderings in tax take will be s d01tly less. maybe knows? renderings in tax take will be s do think ss. maybe knows? renderings in tax take will be s do think it. maybe knows? renderings in tax take will be s do think it says'be knows? renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather knows? renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather a(nows? renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather a loth? i do think it says rather a lot about rishi sunaks aversion actually to just playing pure politics as sort of aaron's alluding to there. the easy thing actually to do would be to turn around and say, okay, we are going to your taxes, are going to slash your taxes, we're going to bring down income tax that he's tax knowing full well that he's probably not going to be prime minister months minister in 12 to 18 months time. leaving to keir

time. and leaving that to keir starmer to deal who starmer to have to deal with who would probably would inevitably probably have to he was playing to raise them if he was playing the sensible game, he would win. i lot of support in i think a lot of support in the short people go, oh, short term by people go, oh, fantastic. my, my pay packet is slightly and when slightly bigger. and then when keir two keir starmer wins, you know, two years people go, years down the line, people go, well, i well, this sucks. i wish i hadn't voted for keir starmer. now but he would have at least sort brought back little sort of brought back a little bit obviously bit more support. so obviously it's unpopular. but as we it's very unpopular. but as we said top of show that said at the top of the show that is what starmer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak starmer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is:armer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying to rry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying to do. rishi sunak is trying to do. he's the man who he's trying to be the man who takes situations and takes control of situations and says, to make says, i'm prepared to make difficult that means difficult decisions. that means not necessarily you what difficult decisions. that means not want.;arily you what difficult decisions. that means not want. that you what difficult decisions. that means not want. that meansyou what difficult decisions. that means not want. that means potentially you want. that means potentially not going the fairyland of not for going the fairyland of net zero. it means being straight i suppose straight with you. and i suppose therefore, that is to his credit, i don't think it'll work, know that is work, but you know that is better than the liz truss approach going, you better than the liz truss appro what? going, you better than the liz truss appro what? i've going, you better than the liz truss appro what? i've got1g, you better than the liz truss appro what? i've got this you better than the liz truss appro what? i've got this magic know what? i've got this magic solution everything. nobody's solution to everything. nobody's ever before. let's ever thought of it before. let's just we've got the highest >> but we've got the highest taxes since world war two. i mean, a of tory voters must mean, a lot of tory voters must be scratching heads and be scratching their heads and thinking boris and be scratching their heads and thinjeremy boris and be scratching their heads and thinjeremy corbyn. boris and got jeremy corbyn. >> lot of tory voters want >> but a lot of tory voters want the state to prop things up.

that what boris johnson that is what boris johnson i think and that was think got. and that was when people control. people said take back control. they back they didn't think take back control and then throw control to the wind. they wanted the state lot of state to take more. a lot of older labour voters want the state involved their state to be involved in their lives. very lives. they might have very socially views. socially conservative views. that they want that doesn't mean that they want the privatised the nhs to be privatised or anything like that. >> we'll have to >> okay gents, we'll have to call day. they're just call it a day. they're just getting warmed up on one. getting warmed up on that one. anyway, on to our anyway, let's move on to our next thing you're next our next thing you're watching gb news watching or listening to gb news sunday daubney sunday with me, martin daubney loads on today's loads more coming up on today's show, including we'll live in show, including we'll be live in manchester for opening manchester for the opening speech of the tory conference. i'm this is i'm martin daubney and this is gb news,

hello. welcome back to gb news sunday. it's 2 pm. thank you for us this lunchtime. for joining us this lunchtime. i'm and for the i'm martin dalby and for the next hour i'll be keeping you company on tv, online and on your digital radio. coming up in this next stonking hour, we'll be hearing from the chairman of the conservative party as he makes opening speech on the makes his opening speech on the first day of the conservative conference in manchester. we'll bnng conference in manchester. we'll bring you the latest political reaction coming out that reaction coming out of that conference. can see, conference. as you can see, cameras are there conference. as you can see, cameras are there waiting for greg arrive . and the greg hands to arrive. and the prime minister has today refused to rule out hs2 being scaled back, despite former prime minister theresa may joining bons minister theresa may joining boris johnson and david cameron and george osborne and michael heseltine in urging rishi sunak not to axe the project. so should it go ahead or is it a complete waste of money? then

the sunak is slamming the brakes on the wall on motorists as he vows to stop blanket 20 mile an hour zones and ltns low traffic neighbourhoods introduced across wales . do get in touch. send us wales. do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials where of course at gb news. but first, here's your news with ray addison . addison. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon . it's exactly 2:00 and afternoon. it's exactly 2:00 and our top stories this hour. the prime minister has refused to commit to tax cuts as the conservative party conference gets undennay . rishi sunak says gets undennay. rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most . on a visit to poorest, the most. on a visit to burnley ahead of today's gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying it's a thatcherite policy i >> -- >> the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve

inflation in. now that's something that i'm deeply committed to. it's the first of my five priorities. why? because that's how can help people that's how we can help people with cost of living. we just with the cost of living. we just want to more money in want to put more money in people's pockets. and best want to put more money in peo;to's pockets. and best want to put more money in peo;to do wockets. and best want to put more money in peo;to do thatts. and best want to put more money in peo;to do that right d best want to put more money in peo;to do that right now best want to put more money in peo;to do that right now isest way to do that right now is through inflation. and through halving inflation. and that conservative that is a deeply conservative approach to this. and my colleagues approach to this. and my cowhatues approach to this. and my cowhat margaret thatcher did . is what margaret thatcher did. >> tax is set to be a key issue over the next four days, with more than tory mps promising more than 30 tory mps promising not to support the autumn statement if it contains any hikes . shadow health secretary hikes. shadow health secretary wes streeting says they're right to question the prime minister's tax policies, including inherited gas tax. >> after 13 years of conservative government, we end up in a position where even its own mps are having to campaign against their unfair tax policies. and i think conservative mps are quite right to say how is it that we've got the worst, highest tax burden in 70 years and they should also be asking rishi sunak why , instead asking rishi sunak why, instead of thinking about cutting taxes for working people, he's looking to give himself another super

rich people a tax break by cutting a tax that affects 4% of people in this country. a tax cut that would earn him personally £300 million. >> meanwhile, protests have been gathering outside the conference in manchester, calling for an end to the conservative government some are holding signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. others are protesting against the minimum service levels act, defending the right to strike back shop owners are asking the home secretary to specifically outlaw attacks on retail staff close to 90 business leaders say the government should create a new offence of assaulting, threatening or abusing a retail worker to bring english and welsh law in line with scotland. a survey from the british retail consortium found that incidents of violence nearly doubled in the 20 2122 financial year compared with before the pandemic . ofgems energy price pandemic. ofgems energy price cap has now fallen across england , wales and scotland in

england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. the average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. that's still more than 50% higher than pre—crisis levels the government is yet to announce any financial support for struggling households . some for struggling households. some single use plastic items are now bannedin single use plastic items are now banned in england. businesses can no longer sell products like plastic cutlery, plates and polystyrene cups, and they face fines if they do. local authorities will be able to carry out inspections to make sure that the rules are being followed. andrew crook is president of the national federation of fish friers. he says people need to be educated on how to recycle this new packaging . packaging. >> this is a product called bagasse, which is a compostable. it's made from sugarcane . so it it's made from sugarcane. so it does have a carbon footprint because it comes from china. the problem is they look very similar to what's banned, which is the expanded polystyrene . so is the expanded polystyrene. so i think there's still an educational piece from the government for consumer about

how dispose of them how to dispose of them correctly. they don't find correctly. if they don't find their into a and they're their way into a bin and they're just discarded, they'll just act the plastic lot of the same as plastic and a lot of it, it ends up in it, even if it ends up in general waste, will either be incinerated to produce electricity end landfill. >> key of the windsor >> a key part of the windsor framework has come into effect for northern ireland with a green and red lane system to move goods from great britain. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie has more. as the protocol grace periods end , the protocol grace periods end, the framework document comes into place. >> although we must say this is a phased approach . this today a phased approach. this today really affects the retailers, the large supermarkets that have had problems with their supply chains. those issues using groupings may still face problems and that will really hit smaller retailers . but the hit smaller retailers. but the real battle lines here will be drawn in january and right through to october next year, when customs not only look at goods travelling from gb into northern ireland, but also from

goods leaving ireland to go back in to the uk . in to the uk. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to martin and gb news . sunday news. sunday >> thank you very much rte now let's get stuck into today's big topics . today let's get stuck into today's big topics. today marks let's get stuck into today's big topics . today marks the first topics. today marks the first day of the conservative party conference in manchester where tory members, activists and parliamentarians come together for the annual four day conference and jolly . we're conference and jolly. we're expected to hear very shortly from the chairman of the conservative party , greg hands, conservative party, greg hands, who going to make his opening who is going to make his opening speech mark the start of the speech to mark the start of the conference. he's just being introduced and getting warmed up now. before that. joining me now. but before that. joining me now. but before that. joining me now gb news political now is gb news political correspondent catherine forster , also from manchester. so , also live from manchester. so just before we cross to greg hands, catherine, apologies, i may need to cut across to you.

let's talk about this slight bit of news for rishi sunak of good news for rishi sunak today , and that is this opinion today, and that is this opinion poll . the labour lead cut to poll. the labour lead cut to just ten points because it seems to be people like the rowing back on net zero. this really is a bit of good news for rishi sunak, isn't it? >> and goodness knows he needs it because the conservatives are here in manchester, a city never very keen on the tories at the best of times, but especially not now. it looks like the government is going to row back on the pledge to build hs2 between birmingham and manchester. but today , now it's manchester. but today, now it's only one poll. so they shouldn't get too excited. but there is a poll out today suggesting that labour's lead over the conservatives is now down to ten points. now that's quite a big deal because for the last year, pretty much since rishi sunak came in as prime minister, labour have had round about a 20

point lead . so to have cut that point lead. so to have cut that lead in half is potentially significant. and what's changed? well, the five pledges are still there. they're in blazoned everywhere around this building, but he has become rather more radical in the last. >> okay, catherine, i'm afraid i do have to cut across you now. we have to cut to greg hands. party chairman , about to open party chairman, about to open the conference now . ladies and the conference now. ladies and gentlemen, after that unique introduction , it gives me introduction, it gives me enormous pleasure to welcome you as well to conservative party conference 2023 here in the dynamic city of manchester. >> now, when the prime minister asked me to take on this role in february as your party chairman , i could not have been more excited. having been a member for 37 years, 37 years and a representative at every level, chairman of my universe, city conservatives and elected

student union officer, a ward chairman , a councillor, a group chairman, a councillor, a group leader , an mp, a government leader, an mp, a government whip, a government minister and a member of the cabinet. i can truly say that there is no greater privilege than to lead our great party into the next general election alongside our great prime minister, rishi sunak. great prime minister, rishi sunak . but we cannot do this sunak. but we cannot do this alone and i am incredibly lucky to have a fantastic team of conservatives who work tirelessly behind the scenes and whom i'd like to thank personally for their dedication to our party right here in the front row . peter booth, chairman front row. peter booth, chairman of the national convention, who does so much for our party. peter smallwood, the chairman of this year's conference who you've just met. stephen massi, quz ceo who has helped to transform the party's finances since a year ago . douglas ross

since a year ago. douglas ross and andrew davies, you'll hear from shortly for their outstanding work in exposing the hypocnsy outstanding work in exposing the hypocrisy of what life is like under the snp in scotland and labourin under the snp in scotland and labour in wales. and finally , my labour in wales. and finally, my fantastic team of deputy and vice chairman nicky aitken, luke hall, lee anderson, jack lopresti , matt vickers, craig lopresti, matt vickers, craig tracey, saqib bhatti , mo ali and tracey, saqib bhatti, mo ali and my doctor, ben spencer . so my doctor, ben spencer. so ladies and gentlemen, we are one big conservative family . whether big conservative family. whether you've been a member for 50 years, like edna from brecon and radnorshire or a member for just over 12 months, like leo from bristol. now as chairman, i've had the great pleasure of campaigning this year in over 50 constituencies and if i haven't got to you yet, you can expect a visit very soon. and we have

seen what happens when you do great campaigning . look at great campaigning. look at uxbridge, the week before labour was . 25 to 1 on favourite and was. 25 to 1 on favourite and i think about that labour was so favourites that you put £100 on and if labour won you'd only get £4 back. but we knew we had the right policies . a superb turnout right policies. a superb turnout from everyone across all levels of the party and a first class candidate in steve tuckwell. and i'm to going go one better than pete smallwood. i'm going to actually ask steve tuckwell to stand up. steve, stand up. you'd be brilliant . at and he's be brilliant. at and he's already getting stuck in at the house of commons. he truly is a fantastic parliamentary voice for the people of uxbridge and south ruislip and proof that we can come from behind to win as we have done so often before . so we have done so often before. so i would ask that everyone captures the energy which went

into winning in uxbridge and gets out to support our fantastic current by—election candidates in in tamworth and mid—bedfordshire andy cooper and festus akinbusoye. so by elections aside, we will of course have several elections next year, a full set of local elections in may. police and crime commissioner elections led by our fantastic group leader katie bourne. we also have our flagship mayors and candidates across the country standing for election next year in the west midlands, we have andy street, the east midlands, ben bradley tees valley, ben houchen, north yorkshire, qin duncan and others . and in london gla and mayoral elections . as pete has already elections. as pete has already said, a chance to throw out a labour mayor who has been an unmitigated disaster for our great capital city. proof again, as if we didn't need to see it again. we know this that when

labour run things they run them badly. london has are starting to see through it and we have a brilliant candidate in susan hall who will on the 2nd of may prove to sadiq khan that actually sadiq can't and we will and i don't think i'm breaking any state secrets here also have any state secrets here also have a general election now this is likely to be a general election where the conservatives enter as the underdogs . and i know in the underdogs. and i know in recent years you will have had difficult conversations with voters. i certainly have . but i voters. i certainly have. but i would say just three things about those conversations. first, every single conversation ihave first, every single conversation i have had on the doorstep has been improved by the mention of rishi sunak and the job that he does as our prime minister. so that there is no enthusiasm for sir keir starmer and even less trust in him and the third, that wherever labour runs something in the country, they run it

badly. let me tell you first about our great prime minister. the message coming across loud and clear from the doorstep is that people can see we're moving in the right direction. that the conservatives are getting on with the job and that rishi sunakis with the job and that rishi sunak is the right man to steer this country through extremely challenging times . people challenging times. people understand also the tough choices and the trade offs that true leadership entails . they true leadership entails. they look at our prime minister and see someone who is to prepared make the tough, long term decisions to get the country on the right path for our future. someone who's not afraid to challenge the old style westminster politics of short termism that we have seen so much of in the past that earns respect. it wins trust, and it will be by continuing to win that trust and respect that we will also win nationally next year , which takes me to my

year, which takes me to my second point, that there is no liking for sir keir starmer and definitely no trust who is the real sir keir starmer , the real sir keir starmer, the friend and supporter of jeremy corbyn, the puppet of tony blair, or the mouthpiece of just stop oil . all we do know is that stop oil. all we do know is that he has broken every single leadership pledge and flip flopped almost 60 times in just three years. this is a man who will literally say anything that suits him at that time. i've always thought that the best leaders wake up each morning and ask themselves, what am i going to do today ? some leaders ask to do today? some leaders ask themselves , what am i going to themselves, what am i going to say today ? sir keir wakes up and say today? sir keir wakes up and asks himself, what am i going to believe today ? and ladies and believe today? and ladies and gentlemen , can i just let you gentlemen, can i just let you into also a little bit of a secret? these are available. anybody who likes this

association of sir keir starmer with flip flops, i have these available at the conservative shop outside for just £16. available at the conservative shop outside forjust £16. 99. shop outside for just £16. 99. also online at conservatives.com. your own pair there of sir keir starmer, flip flops. i warmly recommend them to you . but not once to you. but not once has there been any clear plan for britain from sir keir. he is not been any clear plan for britain from sir keir . he is not honest from sir keir. he is not honest with people about the challenges that the country faces . he has that the country faces. he has no new ideas criticises from the sidelines is calling for yet more money to be magicked up now here's another thing we know that wherever labour runs, something , they run it badly. something, they run it badly. i've already mentioned london. look at wales . we're going to look at wales. we're going to hear from andrew rt davies later this afternoon and david davis, the secretary of state for wales patients almost twice as likely

to be on the nhs waiting list as they are in england . but they are in england. but according to sir keir labour in wales is quote, a blue print for what they would do in westminster. now that's not a blueprint. ladies and gentlemen . it is a red flag and it's bringing wales to a standstill . bringing wales to a standstill. i look at labour on birmingham city council, its leader handpick sacked by sir keir and as union paymasters to sort out the finances praised by sir keir just a few months ago. so what did they do? they voted unanimously to bump up their own pay unanimously to bump up their own pay packet below millions of pounds on consultants , all paid pounds on consultants, all paid for by hiking council tax for hard working local people by the maximum amount. this is europe's largest local authority before being hit by a £760 million legal bill for and here is the irony equal pay claim . £760

irony equal pay claim. £760 million for one local authority. a labour council that spent more time thinking up. you might remember this from the height of the pandemic, more time thinking up new woke street names than looking after their own finances . birmingham city council really did have a diversity grove. they had an inspire alley and now, ladies and gentlemen, they are up bankruptcy avenue . from what up bankruptcy avenue. from what we do know of labour's plans for the uk, the entire country would go the same way. labour's plan for energy we lovingly crafted by just stop oil would leave us gasping for energy imports from unfriendly foreign powers. their plan for immigration action would see the numbers coming into this country decided not by us, but by brussels and their plan for the economy has already signed the uk up to £90 billion of uncosted funding commitments before putting money on the credit card. didn't work out so well for them last time. now you

could probably work out where this is going. dear chief secretary , no money left . left . secretary, no money left. left. and that reminder, ladies and gentlemen , should tell us that gentlemen, should tell us that we need to work to stop labour getting back in. we cannot let them do to the uk what they have done to wales, what they have done to wales, what they have done to wales, what they have done to london and what they have done to birmingham. there is a surefire way to stop them in their tracks. it's the effective campaigning. ladies and gentlemen , and winning next and gentlemen, and winning next year at all levels. now let me tell you something about somebody who did know a thing or two about campaigning . a much two about campaigning. a much loved member of our conservative family who represented his constituency . constituency. >> s okay. that was greg hands there kicking off the tory party

conference in manchester when a cut back to our panel know aaron bastani and alex bence still with us gentlemen there was one laugh out loud moment there from us when he said birmingham city had an inspire avenue and now they're bankruptcy avenue. but i was struck by two things before i cut to you. first of all, they didn't even talk about manchester. it was obsessed with london, obsessed with birmingham and wales, putting the boot continually into to the labour party. the entire speech was defined around having a go at the labour party and in particular sadiq khan , who particular sadiq khan, who they're going to call sadiq cut . i thought that fell a bit flat. and then they also had a major go. greg hands at keir starmer, who is the real keir starmer, who is the real keir starmer is he the puppet of blair or corbyn's mouthpiece ? blair or corbyn's mouthpiece? and then a bizarre moment where they introduced the keir starmer flip flops. aaron bastani what did you make of that from greg hands? >> well, i'm to going pinch benedict's joke. he said they have to get the money from somewhere, what with all the

donors and think donors leaving. and i think i don't flip flops are going don't think flip flops are going to the gap, it's to fill the gap, but it's a start. i suppose. look, i mean, i'm sure of viewers i'm sure some of your viewers and aware of my and listeners are aware of my politics, but i have to say, these people are hucksters. you cannot party cannot say that the labour party coming threat with coming in are a threat with regards to immigration. the year after net immigration of 600,000. feel so sorry for 600,000. and i feel so sorry for tory voters who are deceived by these people. they are lying to you. they are lying to you , you. they are lying to you, they're deceiving you. they're saying, labour runs saying, well, labour runs birmingham poorly because birmingham so poorly because of this case, by the way, this historic case, by the way, that went to the supreme court that went to the supreme court that precedent for dozens that set a precedent for dozens of other councils across the rest of the country. it was a historic case back historic case going back decades. to see decades. so we're going to see more and more councils in the exact situation . and i'd exact same situation. and i'd like to ask a question really of the conservatives. what are they running? well, you i live running? well, you know, i live in south—east of england, in the south—east of england, apparently the most apparently one of the most affluent of the country. affluent parts of the country. britain is still the sixth largest economy the world. largest economy in the world. and of england and the south—east of england is the affluent part of the the most affluent part of the country. walk down high country. i walk down high streets. it looks mess

streets. martin it looks a mess . it looks a mess. so what are they running correctly? that's they running correctly? that's the question i would greg hands. >> okay. benedict, he's talking to got a quick minute to you. i've got a quick minute on this. you inspired by on this. were you inspired by that the fact that or dismayed by the fact they were contained, defining themselves labour? >> i think it's interesting that this going to be this is how it's going to be framed because they're taking the of labour, the few incidences of labour, individuals the few incidences of labour, indivi(power and they're using are in power and they're using this to try to spin it against, as the fact the as aaron says, the fact that the tories as news viewers know tories as gb news viewers know full have not been full well, have not been brilliant key things like brilliant on key things like immigration. very stark immigration. it's a very stark thing. all thing. and this is all about, i think, because what you'll hear from i think, from labour is, i think, understandable. will say, understandable. people will say, oh, she crashed the oh, liz truss, she crashed the economy. johnson was economy. boris johnson was a disaster a lot of disaster and i think a lot of people oh, so we're people will go, oh, so we're weighing the one up who's useless the what useless against the other. what the tories are going to try and do say, this is a reset, this do is say, this is a reset, this is rishi sunak attempt to is the rishi sunak attempt to come policies come out with these new policies is it's an entirely new is a reset. it's an entirely new slate tories. it's whether or slate of tories. it's whether or not prepared to not the voters are prepared to buy whether or they're buy that, whether or not they're prepared sunak the prepared to give rishi sunak the benefit of the doubt and go, okay, he's now offering okay, what he's now offering me does clean slate and does look like a clean slate and it better than keir

it looks better than keir starmer. is a gamble, i starmer. it is a gamble, but i don't that they have don't really see that they have much go right now. much else to go with right now. >> okay, gentlemen, you >> okay, gentlemen, thank you very superb stuff very much for that superb stuff you're listening you're watching and listening to gb martin gb news sunday with me. martin daubney loads more coming up on today's show, including the prime minister's refused to confirm birmingham confirm whether the birmingham to manchester of hs2 be to manchester leg of hs2 will be axed. so what is the future of the high speed rail line? all of that and more to come. i'm martin daubney and you're watching, listening to news, watching, listening to gb news, britain's

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britain's news channel. >> and welcome back to gb news sunday with me, martin daubney on your tv online and on your digital radio. now the prime minister has again refused to rule out hs2 being scaled back, despite what former prime minister theresa may wading in and joining boris johnson and david cameron and george osborne and michael heseltine in urging rishi sunak not to axe the project . rishi sunak completely project. rishi sunak completely swerved the question when asked where will have to begin and where will have to begin and where will have to begin and where will hs2 end ? where will hs2 end? >> and we've got spades in the ground on hs2 and we're cracking on with delivering it. >> but funnily enough, i was just talking to people here in berlin what we're doing berlin about what we're doing for up. we've just for them to level up. we've just announced £1 billion of investment in towns across investment in 55 towns across the because there are lots of the uk because there are lots of different can level different ways that we can level up. not just about our big up. it's not just about our big cities. more people live in towns big cities and towns than big cities and we want to back them. >> the prime minister >> what are the prime minister doesn't know where it starts and

where it ends. what will my panel of it? let's turn panel make of it? let's turn first to benedict it's first to benedict spence. it's become again a huge talking become once again a huge talking point. it's been rattling on for years. not a single passenger has gone down the line. should it be the of the line for it be the end of the line for hs2 in terms of the cost? >> it is getting to the sort of the astronomical stage where it's justify. it's difficult to justify. however find it however where i find it disgraceful that we can find ourselves in a position where we are of building what are incapable of building what are incapable of building what are not. actually, what i would say major infrastructure projects. they're increasingly becoming rather basic infrastructure projects across becoming rather basic infras competitors ects across becoming rather basic infras competitors ,:ts across becoming rather basic infras competitors , other'oss becoming rather basic infras competitors , other nations other competitors, other nations that we would seek to compare ourselves with. we're unable to do it without a sort of a huge cross. you go to spain, you go to italy, they already high to italy, they already have high speed they've got speed rail networks. they've got on, them and on, they've built them and they've at a fraction they've built them at a fraction of the cost. now, are many of the cost. now, there are many reasons why, but we consult a lot more people. we want to try and do the decent thing. want and do the decent thing. we want to constituents. we to do right by constituents. we want right by the want to do right by the environment. actually environment. fine. but actually we sit back we do have to sort of sit back and say it's got to a stage now

where is unsafe, attainable. where it is unsafe, attainable. and say, we're even and as you say, we're not even getting where it's getting to a point where it's getting to a point where it's getting built and we're talking about slashing it. about slashing half of it. manchester birmingham might about slashing half of it. mareveriter birmingham might about slashing half of it. mareveriter built,ningham might about slashing half of it. mareveriter built,ninghayouiight not ever get built, which you would would have would have thought would have been would been the bit that you would start at the bit. start with at the cheaper bit. the major the combining the two major cities. and i find it so dispiriting actually that that is option is to is now the option is to say, well, either going to well, we're either going to mothball completely mothball it or just completely cancel we can just cancel it and we can just make do the other railway do with the other railway services because this is also what people saying, what you hear people saying, well, spend that well, why don't we spend that money rail networks money levelling up rail networks between liverpool and manchester and sheffield? and leeds and sheffield? everybody knows full well that and leeds and sheffield? everyb(will:nows full well that and leeds and sheffield? everyb(will notis full well that and leeds and sheffield? everyb(will not be ull well that and leeds and sheffield? everyb(will not be usedzll that and leeds and sheffield? everyb(will not be used to that money will not be used to upgrade services because upgrade these services because they'll run into the exact same issues that hs2 faces , which is issues that hs2 faces, which is all sorts of people opposing it. huge amounts of money wasted on cancel bolting on aspects of the building that is frankly unnecessary that is the unnecessary and that is the state that we are in. and it's not just railways, it's obviously like runways. obviously things like runways. we all about heathrow . it's we all know about heathrow. it's building it's water building energy. it's water reservoirs, all sorts of reservoirs, it's all sorts of things . it reservoirs, it's all sorts of things. it becoming reservoirs, it's all sorts of things . it becoming overly things. it is becoming overly expensive to build anything that a country needs to function as a

first world country. and i think that's people have to that's what people have to reflect these are based reflect on. these are based sick things, advanced technology things, not advanced technology . yeah. >> em- . yeah. >> aaron bastani, >> meanwhile, aaron bastani, the chinese built chinese have probably built about 300 power stations in the same time , but the cost is same time, but the cost is significant. £23 billion would be saved if we got rid of this manchester to birmingham leg. and i think that that is money that could be better spent on things like today. we saw £700 million announced for local bus services akin to andy burnham . s services akin to andy burnham. s network b scheme in manchester. more kind of public control, presumably you'd be in favour of transport solutions like that. instead of spending all this money on on something like hs2 to londoners around the to get londoners around the country ten minutes quicker. well, hs2 isn't just that, that's the thing. that's the key thing. >> hs2 does things. it >> so hs2 does two things. it speeds up the connection between london manchester or london and manchester or potentially and potentially manchester and birmingham but allows birmingham, but it also allows greater tracks greater volume on the tracks because all of a sudden you don't to have long don't have to have the long distance trains on the same track as the hyperlocal ones. and of course we want to

increase all kinds of journeys. what i would say is it's incredible to me that the home of victorian capitalism , i'm the of victorian capitalism, i'm the home of the industrial revolution , manchester does not revolution, manchester does not have a high speed connection to our capital already. and as our capital city already. and as you said, this is you said, benedict, this is basic stuff, right? indonesia can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail. well, my father is from iran. they have high speed rail. we are not talking about technology that's going to be for the 22nd century. this is arguably late 20th century technology . so 20th century technology. so i think it's shameful and i'll finish with this. we want high speed rail connections in this country. we also want them to be cheap. i think most people would agree that. you say, agree on that. and like you say, the problem is the cost. i would say let's complete this. let's have manchester, birmingham and have manchester, birmingham and have as to what the have a huge audit as to what the hell has gone wrong and how to avoid it. again in the future. >> ben, how helpful you think >> ben, how helpful do you think it is deliberate? in it is or is it deliberate? in fact, people boris fact, that people like boris johnson, are wading johnson, theresa may, are wading to in attack rishi on today , the to in attack rishi on today, the opening day of his own

conference? i'm sure that conference? well i'm sure that there is plenty of political point going on, point scoring going on, certainly boris johnson point scoring going on, cert.rishi boris johnson point scoring going on, cert.rishi sunak. boris johnson and rishi sunak. >> not helpful him at >> it's not helpful to him at all. but again , this is this is all. but again, this is this is something that rishi sunak has inherited. are inherited. you know, these are things that have happened on other ministers watches other prime ministers watches that find that he does have to find a solution to. so it's all very well boris johnson coming out and saying would a and saying it would be a disgrace. do agree in disgrace. and i do agree in principle, is the of principle, this is the sort of infrastructure principle, this is the sort of infrastr be ure ahead , but it's should be going ahead, but it's not actually rishi sunak's fault that costs so much. and as that it costs so much. and as aaron we need to back aaron says, we need to go back and find why it is and actually find out why it is that has ended costing that this has ended up costing so who is to blame? so much and who is to blame? because the because i'm sure some of the blame fall rishi sunak. blame will fall on rishi sunak. but were other prime but there were other prime ministers before who gave the green to certain things. green light to certain things. they will have to come under scrutiny they will have to come under scrlit'sy they will have to come under scrl it's worth they will have to come under scrlit's worth pointing out >> it's worth pointing out people andy the people like andy street, the mayor he really mayor of birmingham, he really wants and down the wants this. mps up and down the line want this line really want this constituency because they do like of like i like the idea of like where i used toton, the east used to live in toton, the east midlands. want midlands. they really want it around increase the around there to increase the freight network ability. so it takes the transport off of motonnays, puts it on the on the

so it can go up and down that way. nevertheless the tories are at crossroads . what are they at a crossroads. what are they going do? going to do? >> think they'll >> honestly, i think they'll probably mothballing probably end up mothballing it. they'll the they'll kick the can down the road. say, well, we'll road. they'll say, well, we'll do, we'll get far no do, we'll get this far and no further. probably the birmingham, leg. birmingham, manchester leg. i think probably now , think that's probably done now, but they sort of but they won't sort of completely they'll say, completely kill it. they'll say, well, let's revisit this further down i suspect that's down the line. i suspect that's probably happen. probably what's going to happen. okay again, gentlemen, you're >> once again, gentlemen, you're watching listening watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. martin daubney more on today's daubney loads more on today's show up including show coming up yet, including the prime minister vows to end the prime minister vows to end the motorists, but how the war on motorists, but how does he plan to do it? we'll have details on that. have all of the details on that. but first, here's the news with ray addison . on ray addison. on >> thanks, martin. 32 minutes past to our top stories. the tory party chairman has opened the conference with a speech saying that they can win from behind. that follows comments made by the prime minister where he refused to commit to tax

cuts. rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest the most on a visit to burnley ahead of today's gathering , the pm today's gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative. >> the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation, and that's something that i'm deeply committed to. it's the first of five it's the first of my five priorities. because that's priorities. why? because that's how can help people the how we can help people with the cost of living. we just want to put money people's put more money in people's pockets. do pockets. and the best way to do that right now is through halving inflation. that halving inflation. and that is a deeply approach deeply conservative approach to this. and my colleagues understand that this is what margaret did . margaret thatcher did. >> protests have >> meanwhile, protests have gathered outside the conference in manchester, calling for an end to the conservative government . some have been seen government. some have been seen holding signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. others are protesting against the minimum service levels act, defending the right to strike a key part of the windsor framework has come into effect for northern ireland, with a new system introduced to move products from great britain

goods which are being transported to the eu will now use a red lane which includes customs declarations and some checks , while those bound for checks, while those bound for northern ireland will use a green lane with minimal papennork and no checks. not for eu labels will start appearing on some products in stores . on some products in stores. ofgems energy price cap has now fallen across england , wales and fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. the average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. that's still more than 50% higher than pre—crisis levels . the pre—crisis levels. the government is yet to announce any financial support for struggling households . you can struggling households. you can find more on all of those stories on our website, gb news.com stories on our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you very much . raman >> thank you very much. raman okay. the prime minister has refused to say whether the government would block local councils from introducing 20 mile per hour zones. any

missing? the statutory guidance from government councils must be clear that changes have both the consent and support of the local area. well, gb news political editor christopher hope spoke to the secretary of state for wales, david davis, about the 20 mile an hour speed limits in wales. david davis rishi sunak wants to ban council cars in england from imposing 20 mile an hour limits on populations. >> why can't it do that in wales ? >> well, we can't do it in wales because we have a welsh government that has full legislative control over speed limits and they've decided that they blanket 20 mile an they want a blanket 20 mile an hour ban. they want a blanket 20 mile an hol no an. they want a blanket 20 mile an hol no reasonable person would >> no reasonable person would oppose a 20 mile an hour speed limit school limit outside a school or a hospital somewhere where hospital or somewhere where there people. there are vulnerable people. but to a blanket ban in to just have a blanket ban in all and many that all urban areas and many that aren't actually is aren't that urban actually is completely it's completely ridiculous. it's making for motorists completely ridiculous. it's m.getg for motorists completely ridiculous. it's m.get to for motorists completely ridiculous. it's m.get to work. for motorists completely ridiculous. it's m.get to work. it'sir motorists completely ridiculous. it's m.get to work. it's actually;ts to get to work. it's actually causing people causing problems for people catching because they've catching buses because they've had their schedules had to tear up their schedules as . it doesn't there as well. it doesn't stop there because not just about 20 because it's not just about 20 mile hour they're mile an hour limits. they're bringing the limit on

bringing down the speed limit on dual carriageways . that sort dual carriageways. that sort of nebulous excuses as they've decided to stop building any new roads from being roads ever again from being built because say it's you built because they say it's you know, more friendly from know, it's more friendly from a climate point of for all climate point of view for all sit jams, breathing sit in traffic jams, breathing in fumes and they want to bring in fumes and they want to bring in charges. course, like many in charges. of course, like many other want to other cities, they want to charge us for going into cardiff. they want out cardiff. they want to take out lanes bus routes lanes and put more bus routes in. is a disaster. a war on motorists. >> do you follow the rules when it's miles hour limit? it's 20 miles an hour limit? >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> i always follow the rules. i say simple. have say it's very simple. you have to law. but you can to follow the law. but you can change people who the change the people who make the law. the next elections, i law. so at the next elections, i hope aware hope people will be aware that it party that are it is the labour party that are carrying out a war on motorists and can change that. and and we can change that. and there's whitehall there's no powers in whitehall to what they're doing there's no powers in whitehall to wales what they're doing there's no powers in whitehall to wales aswhat they're doing there's no powers in whitehall to wales as can: they're doing there's no powers in whitehall to wales as can happen doing there's no powers in whitehall to wales as can happen inying in wales as can happen in scotland. there are are no scotland. there are there are no people have for senate. people have voted for a senate. people voted for it to have people have voted for it to have law if people people have voted for it to have law not if people people have voted for it to have law not happy if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with the if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with the lawsyeople are not happy with the laws being passed, we need to change the passing the laws. the people passing the laws. >> so can the minister >> so can the prime minister stop well, stop the war on motorists? well, join a legendary join me now is a legendary motoring quentin motoring journalist, quentin wilson. it's always a pleasure to on show,

to have you on the show, quentin, is there quentin, first of all, is there a on motorists and is the a war on motorists and is the right solution to scrap things like 20 mile an hour limits ? like 20 mile an hour limits? >> there's always been a war on motorists and for as long as i've been writing and broadcasting about cars and trying engage with the trying to engage with the government about making things easier drivers, they've easier for drivers, they've always , you know, the car always seen, you know, the car driver is a single fly in the ointment of their daily labours . approach an . suddenly, as we approach an election, we've got this complete volte face and the 20 mile an hour speed limit. it's really important to understand that they are very , very that they are very, very valuable in reducing what's known csi's killed known as csi's killed and serious injuries . and we've got serious injuries. and we've got to have a stack of data that says, know, if you're hit at says, you know, if you're hit at 20 you stand 20 miles an hour, you stand a much, much better chance much, much, much better chance of surviving and having less serious outside serious injuries. so outside schools in built up areas, residential school where there are vulnerable pedestrians , it's are vulnerable pedestrians, it's really, really important . but really, really important. but the irony here, martin, is the 20 mile an hour speed limit was us government policy. conservative government policy. the dft did a research document

in 2014, i think it was asking for data about 20. 20 mile an hour speed limits and then when they published it, they recommended that local councils should look at enforcing more 20 mile an hour speed limits. so this is very disingenuous and it's clearly naked political electioneering from a government that's worried about its declining majorities. so, you know , he's looking really know, he's looking really embarrassed when you've got a situation where for years and years and years they've pushed all these policies , but now when all these policies, but now when they're in trouble , it's they're in trouble, it's a complete, you know, 360 degree u—turn . u—turn. >> yeah, the government has done a u—turn on this. it's interesting to point out, though, quentin, there's a petition online at the moment and the number of people against the 21 hour ban in wales is 453,000 exceeds the number of people who voted for the welsh labour party. 443,000 at the last senate election. so i guess the tories are saying that when you give the people a chance to

vote on this as we saw in uxbndge vote on this as we saw in uxbridge over ulez, then the party of the motorists seems to be the party that's picking up votes . votes. >> yeah , so, so these two things >> yeah, so, so these two things have become weaponised air quality, ulez and road safety 20 miles an hour, which is a great, great shame because these are two really important things in society that we should be defending and we should be bringing with us bringing the population with us with these things and not making it such toxic issue. i'll it such a toxic issue. i'll grant you that wales have been a little bit overzealous with with no more road building, but it has to be said there are councils in wales that can still choose whether they do 20 miles an hour and there are plenty of roads wales 30, 40, 50, roads in wales with 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 miles an hour. so as we approach the conservative party conference, we will see this war of motorists increase in volume and visibility because there's 50 million licence holders out there and sunak and the party want to tap into that because it could make all the difference

between winning and losing . between winning and losing. >> quentin wilson, thank you for joining us on gb news sunday. it's always a fabulous pleasure to you on the thank to have you on the show. thank you. appreciate gentlemen, you. appreciate it. gentlemen, back expense aaron back to bannau expense and aaron bastani. to you bastani. aaron, i'll come to you first. makes a valid first. quentin makes a valid point . this first. quentin makes a valid point. this is nakedly political . here we are wales . there's . here we are in wales. there's been a huge backlash and it's talismanic. i think that the handsin talismanic. i think that the hands in his opening speech kept mentioning uxbridge. they see it. i think , as a potential of it. i think, as a potential of turning the tide by focusing on things like 20 mile an hour limits and ulez the tories see a chance of winning seats again. >> let's put this in context. i don't think labour has ever won uxbndge don't think labour has ever won uxbridge before. so the fact that the tories are saying we kept a seat which labour has never won is being seen as this hail mary to forming a government. those are very different way. different things, by the way. i think that tells you think that really tells you about the problem about the scale of the problem they're right now in they're facing right now in terms war the motorist terms of the war on the motorist . fuel duty, fuel duty in . cut fuel duty, fuel duty in this country is 57.9 £0.05 estate, the same for 12 years. jeremy hunt has said it's going

to stay the same until next yean to stay the same until next year. so the tax on fuel has stayed the same for 12 years. that doesn't sound like a war on the motorist to me. in the long term. terms of what's term. now, in terms of what's going on in wales, not building any roads, the 20 mile per any more roads, the 20 mile per hour limit in residential areas, it should be said ulez. think it should be said ulez. i think the tories quite the tories can quite compellingly story compellingly make a story that something changing something is decisively changing against the motorist. over the last year or two. that's a separate thing and i do worry that labour is overstepping the mark here, so i don't drive . i mark here, so i don't drive. i think we need to decarbonise our economies as quickly as possible. but the point is we need to focus on getting emissions down and that doesn't necessarily building necessarily mean not building anything anymore. so for instance, we need steel to build high speed will high speed rail that will require coal. the idea that require some coal. the idea that you can't have used ever you can't have used coal ever again is nonsensical china. again is nonsensical in china. so , that's the question. do so well, that's the question. do we get the coal from or we get the coal from here or do we get the coal from here or do we get the coal from here or do we get from so you we get it from china? so you need a sensible debate on this. and i think we're not going to build new roads. isn't build any new roads. to me isn't a this. a solution to addressing this. i would also like to see

investment other where investment in other places where i'm wouldn't. i'm sure many tories wouldn't. but secondary but that's a secondary conversation . conversation. >> let's go to bannau >> ian okay, let's go to bannau bannau will bannau a lot of people will point course, that for point out of course, that for safety particularly safety reasons, particularly around hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, miletals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, mile ani, places like that, 20 mile an hour are a good thing. hour limits are a good thing. but what's your take how the but what's your take on how the tories seemingly weaponizing tories are seemingly weaponizing this motorists as a way this war on motorists as a way of votes? i mean, this of getting votes? i mean, this is, i think, part of the broader gamble people's gamble around what people's perspectives gamble around what people's perspectyou can of tie all because you can sort of tie all of these things in together, but also we can back to what we also we can go back to what we were about earlier. were talking about earlier. >> and whether or >> hs2, and whether or not that's to ahead. what that's going to go ahead. what we often lose sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the often lose sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact often lose sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact that] lose sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact that in)se sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact that in ae sight of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact that in a lotght of that's going to go ahead. what w(the fact that in a lot of. of is the fact that in a lot of parts of the country, public transport aren't parts of the country, public transgood. aren't parts of the country, public transgood. it's aren't parts of the country, public transgood. it's asimply very good. and it's not simply a question being sort of question of people being sort of pigheaded and saying, well, i refuse give up my car. it's refuse to give up my car. it's a physically can't give up physically i can't give up my car situation. when car kind of situation. and when you're at the you're looking at the constriction on the railway lines equally, road systems lines, equally, the road systems between major cities like bradford and leeds and manchester, actually it is a nightmare navigate much of nightmare to navigate much of these places. so if you just sort that additional sort of add that additional little of, oh , and the little caveat of, oh, and by the way, when is a bit of

way, even when there is a bit of space move, you can't go very space to move, you can't go very quickly. add quickly. it's going to add that much of onto your much amount of time onto your journey. it does begin to build up does begin to grate, up and it does begin to grate, i think, a mistake that the tories would though, of would make though, is to sort of suggest motoring are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat motoring are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat think'ing are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the sameis would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the same way bloc that all think the same way because motorists are the same people have who people that have children who might play the street people that have children who miare play the street people that have children who miare upset play the street people that have children who miare upset because the street people that have children who miare upset because theirstreet people that have children who miare upset because their petst or are upset because their pets might a car because might get hit by a car because some, speeding. so some, some idiot is speeding. so it keep on using it is again, we keep on using this expression it's gamble. this expression. it's a gamble. they idea they are gambling on the idea that particular group of that this particular group of people have been pushed slightly further they like further than they would like to be, are always be, but they are not always going of one mind going to be all of one mind and they different they may have very different views should be the views on what should be the future. of motorists would future. a lot of motorists would perhaps aaron and perhaps be the same as aaron and say we need to be say actually we need to be decarbonising. it's simply a case that are other case that there are no other opfions case that there are no other options for them. there isn't the infrastructure electric the infrastructure for electric vehicles in the part of the country to country that they happen to live on. so it is something that i think they're going the think if they're going down the sort oxbridge and sort of the oxbridge route and going, shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca ig, shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a core)ws that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a core demographics is a sort of a core demographic maybe, think it's rather maybe, but i think it's rather a lot to be sort nailing your lot to be sort of nailing your flag to at this point. >> ben expense. aaron >> okay. ben expense. aaron

bastani, thank you very much for that. and that. excellent as ever and loads been in loads of you been getting in touch view on this war touch with your view on this war on motorists. 1 in on motorists. pierre says 1 in 20 sleeping on 20 children are sleeping on floors parents to floors and parents are unable to afford their beds. afford to replace their beds. but the conservatives want to talk , potholes talk about cars, potholes and speed pierre, speed limits. well pierre, i think all of those things are important, alex says. there is no war on motorists. interesting point. a lot of people are saying the same thing, although clearly not rishi sunak luke saysin clearly not rishi sunak luke says in london, you're lucky if you can even drive at 20 now anyway . these roadworks, anyway. these days, roadworks, bus lanes, bike lanes, traffic jams you'll get used to it. glass half empty view. there keep those views coming in. there's still loads more coming up on today's show, including a ban on single use. plastics has come into force in england with plastic cutlery and plates no longer on the table. good fun. so are businesses coping with the change? more details on that shortly. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. britain's news channel .

company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel welcome back people's. channel welcome back to gb news sunday with me, martin daubney on your tv, onune martin daubney on your tv, online and on your digital radio. >> well, from today, businesses in england are banned from selling single use plastic cutlery, polystyrene cups and food containers. it's part of a government effort to reduce litter and protect the environment. but for many

struggling, struggling businesses owners, it comes at a price. our reporter ray addison went to woodstock in oxfordshire to find out how two very different outlets are dealing with this change. >> dirty streets and polluted watennays. that's the legacy of single use plastics . however, single use plastics. however, from today, the government is forcing most business owners to go green or face tough fines at the more than 300 year old blenheim palace in woodstock , blenheim palace in woodstock, they're replacing half a million single use coffee cups with 17,000 that can be washed and returned , saving 35 tonnes of returned, saving 35 tonnes of co2 . david green is head of co2. david green is head of innovation . innovation. >> when we serve over 400,000 hot drinks at blenheim and many of those cups, even though they're compostable, can only be composted up to about 5. with food waste. so actually eradicating single use cups really does fit into our overall strategy of becoming carbon neutral by 2027. >> the company behind blenheim's

high tech coffee cup revolution is re universe, which offers a range of reusable food and drink containers. founder tony mcguirk explains how it works. >> this cup has some really neat technology in it, so it has a qr code on the side to give it an identity to you as a consumer, and it has underneath an rfid chip enabled in the cup itself so that we know where the cup is and what it's doing. when it gets returned, you'll go into a coffee shop, you'll buy your coffee, as you normally would do, you'll pay a deposit on do, and you'll pay a deposit on that cup. rather than here's that cup. so rather than here's a paper cup, throw away, you a paper cup, throw it away, you now have a cup that is reused and re washable and you've invested £2 in it. for instance . so if you want your £2 back, you'll make sure it comes back and gets washed and reused due to the receipt. >> but revolutions are expensive i >> just a few minutes walk away from blenheim palace is smart's fish and chip shop owner ricardo camara says meeting the new regulations is costing him

hundreds plastic bags . hundreds plastic bags. >> cups and leeds boxes . bin >> cups and leeds boxes. bin liners , other bits and bobs . i'm liners, other bits and bobs. i'm going to lose easily £600 worth of items. >> this is just the latest challenge. ricardo has faced to his livelihood . during covid, he his livelihood. during covid, he was forced to close down his restaurant . now, after a brief restaurant. now, after a brief time of being back on his feet, once again, he's worried for the future . future. >> i lost a big, big time money around the covid. then i decided to take this one over. i take another risk. now this thing comes along again. so sabita thanwani on the chips? yes, please. >> ricardo believes he has around six months to see if he can stay profitable. and in the meantime, his increased overheads will have to be passed on to his customers. >> i kind of take from my own pocket, you know . so whatever i pocket, you know. so whatever i bnng pocket, you know. so whatever i bring it in, i have to increase

in the price . in the price. >> the government says 95% of the public support. it's the single use plastic ban . but at single use plastic ban. but at a time when many are struggling with the cost of living, its impact could help the environment. but damage the high street. ray addison gb news woodstock . woodstock. >> maybe i want fish and chips now. i certainly do. well, lots of you have been getting in touch with your views on rishi sunak leadership after the latest polls. mark says this sunakis latest polls. mark says this sunak is about as radical as a coat stand. says it all. ian says this the tories are a party of inaction. they promise us the world and have delivered nothing except for far more tax. ethan says this most of us want the tories out. it's just a huge problem as to who to replace them with . and mark says rishi them with. and mark says rishi is clutching at straws to say the least. you think he still believes that people want him after rejecting him several

times ? clueless as to the point times? clueless as to the point there. mark, keep those views coming in. well, that's it from me today. but please stay tuned because the legendary nana is up next and she's just whisked into the studio. nana what's on your menu? well, i'm very excited because we've we've got because we've got we've got we're going to be hearing what's his shapps, his name, grant shapps, his speech. his name, grant shapps, his speand hopefully james cleverly >> and hopefully james cleverly as well during show during as well during my show during the party conference. so the tory party conference. so looking dissecting looking fonnard to dissecting what have to say because, what they have to say because, you know, and also looking at the whole thing the echr, the whole thing with the echr, i'll should we be i'll be asking, should we be leaving or should we stay? leaving it or should we stay? and perhaps our illegal and perhaps use our illegal migration bill because there are clauses in there that will enable ignore what the enable us to ignore what the european courts say and do what we want, which we should be able to anyway. but i don't why to anyway. but i don't know why we haven't, looking at we haven't, and we're looking at rishi as well because rishi sunak as well because we're think we're wondering, just think he can back, in action can bounce back, could in action man become of action? man become a man of action? >> well, there's some good news in polls today. points. >> well, there's some good news in lead ls today. points. >> well, there's some good news in lead is today. points. >> well, there's some good news in lead is down. points. >> well, there's some good news in lead is down. but points. >> well, there's some good news in lead is down. but ioints. >> well, there's some good news in lead is down. but i wonder, that lead is down. but i wonder, will there be enough red meat? i

mean , 20 mile an hour limits, mean, 20 mile an hour limits, that's great. but as you said, the echr war. yeah they should go for something like that and show that they're serious about. >> sort >> well, they are sort of focusing this is focusing on that now. so this is a big question. and i think he can do it actually, especially with his with sir keir starmer, his history of flip flops. it's just incredulous. all the things that he's turned his back on and changed mind. worst one changed his mind. the worst one now the whole private now being the whole private school i think school situation, which i think is disgusting . robbing peter to is disgusting. robbing peter to pay is disgusting. robbing peter to pay and sort of make pay paul to try and sort of make up for in the, you know, up for a hole in the, you know, in the sort of budget for state schools. i mean, just schools. i mean, it's just ridiculous . so schools. i mean, it's just ridiculous. so i think keir starmer's got a battle on his hands. i don't think to hands. i don't think it's to going be as he thinks. going be as easy as he thinks. and rishi isn't. boris and i think rishi isn't. boris johnson. a totally johnson. it's a totally different long as different government. as long as they the infighting long they stop the infighting as long as the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a chancethe infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a chance superbowl,|g, there is a chance superbowl, you'll be watching me. >> that's news sunday with >> that's gb news sunday with me. but as we said, loads me. martin but as we said, loads more coming up with nana akua. that's amy dowden. i will see you the you soon, but first, here's the weather greg dewhurst . weather with greg dewhurst. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest weather for gb news.

we're looking at a mixed picture over the next few days, we will see rain, some showers as see some rain, some showers as well, but there'll be some warm spells sunshine turning spells of sunshine and turning drier moves in drier as high pressure moves in by the middle of the week. pressure pattern the moment pressure pattern at the moment is by pressure , is dominated by low pressure, bringing in spells of rain across the country and we've got patchy rain across southern parts wales into the midlands parts of wales into the midlands as we move through this evening time. generally remaining time. this generally remaining cloudy across the southern half of the uk, further north, drier, clearer spells, but a scattering of showers for the northern ireland northwest scotland . some ireland northwest scotland. some of these heavy at times being blown in on a brisk breeze and temperatures across the board generally staying in double figures and muggy start to monday morning. start. monday morning. a cloudy start. southern counties of england and wales patchy rain developing as we through the morning and we move through the morning and into the afternoon. some of this rain could be heavy at times brighter northern brighter skies for northern ireland, and ireland, northern england and scotland a scattering of scotland with a scattering of showers. staying quite showers. again staying quite windy across the northwest of scotland and temperatures high

teens to low 20s across the board into tuesday. we continue to remain fairly unsettled . to remain fairly unsettled. we'll see showers or longer spells of rain . we'll see some spells of rain. we'll see some sunny spells, though, developing in between cloud the in between cloud across the southeast taking its time to clear. and temperatures generally again reaching the high into the low 20s for high teens into the low 20s for many and then high pressure starts to build towards the starts to build in towards the middle week. temperatures middle of the week. temperatures near farage in a world near average farage in a world of dull and predictable radio and tv shows. >> oh, hi . on mark dolan tonight >> oh, hi. on mark dolan tonight we've got big guests. we drill into the big stories of the day . the show adds up to a brilliant listening and viewing experience. mark dolan tonight is the most entertaining current affairs show ever, and that's a fact. affairs show ever, and that's a fact . that's mark affairs show ever, and that's a fact. that's mark dolan tonight friday, saturday and sunday from 9:00. only on gb news britain's news channel

>> well , good afternoon. i was >> well, good afternoon. i was just enjoying my new teeth. hello and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines right now. hitting the headlines right now. this all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine as theirs. and of course, yours. be course, it's yours. we'll be debating , discussing, and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour is

broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton . in author christine hamilton. in a few moments time , we'll be going few moments time, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds with political commentator and former conservative special adviser claire pearsall and also former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider . before we get james schneider. before we get started, though, let's get your latest news headlines with ray addison . addison. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. it's 3:01. our top stories . the it's 3:01. our top stories. the conservative chair, greg hands has said the tories will enter the next general election as underdogs . in his opening speech underdogs. in his opening speech at the party conference. his comments come just hours after the prime minister refused to commit to tax cuts. rishi sunak said his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most . but on poorest, the most. but on a visit to burnley , the pm visit to burnley, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying it's a thatcherite policy . thatcherite policy. >> the best tax cut that we can