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and taking another ducking >> and taking another ducking from the water companies . they from the water companies. they now want to raise our bills by another £156 a year. but campaigners ask, what have they done with the billions they've already taken from . already taken from. us >> we'll also take our hats off to europe's ryder cup victorious. butjust to europe's ryder cup victorious. but just why has golf become such a bogey sport ? golf become such a bogey sport? but first, let's tee off with the news headlines from rte . the news headlines from rte. >> thanks, pip. mark good afternoon. our top stories this hourin afternoon. our top stories this hour in breaking news gb news can reveal that more than 25,000 migrants have crossed the engush migrants have crossed the english channel so far this year . around 350 migrants in up to eight boats were intercepted by border force vessels and brought ashore to dover harbour. dover
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harbour, rather, this morning. on . saturday, 537 people crossed on. saturday, 537 people crossed in nine small boats. that's to according official figures released by the home office . released by the home office. efforts to reduce carbon emissions won't come at the expense of bill payers. that's to according energy secretary. speaking at the conservative party conference in manchester, a short time ago, claire coutinho said protest groups such as just stop oil are out of touch with taxpayers. >> it is these zealots that would see the cause of climate change lost. they are more concerned and with signalling their own purity than with energy being the cause of climate change, which they don't seek to persuade and only to disrupt. they don't want to engage only to silence conference. that is, the labour party for you. >> well, as we've been hearing, the chancellor has told gb news that no substantial tax cuts are possible this year. speaking at
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the party conference, jeremy hunt ruled out any reductions in income or inheritance tax . he income or inheritance tax. he blamed an increase in the government's debt interest payments and said his priority is to bring inflation right down. >> well, i'm saying that no tax cuts are possible in a substantial way at the moment. so it's not just inheritance tax, it's income tax. it's all the different taxes that people look at. if we start having big tax cuts, it would be inflationary . and when we've got inflationary. and when we've got inflationary. and when we've got inflation at 6.7, it's come down a lot . but it needs to come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot more . and the fastest way a lot more. and the fastest way we can give help to families who are finding life really tough is to get inflation right down. and that's the priority of me and the prime minister. well the chancellor's announcement comes ahead of his conference speech this afternoon in which he'll announce tougher rules on benefits. >> jeremy hunt says he'll make it harder for people to claim welfare while they refuse to take active steps to move into work. meanwhile as part of plans
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to get more people employed , to get more people employed, he'll also announce a boost to the national living wage, which will to at least £11 an will go up to at least £11 an hour from april . well, former hour from april. well, former prime minister liz truss will call for tax cuts in her speech at the party conference later today. speaking at a fringe rally, she'll urge the tory leadership to become the party of business again by slashing corporation tax . ms truss will corporation tax. ms truss will also call for fracking and increased measures to boost housebuilding. her comments are expected to put pressure on rishi sunak from the tory right. john mcternan is the former adviser to tony blair. he says voters are sick of tory infighting . infighting. >> truth is, they're fighting each other at this conference. liz truss isn't making a speech . she's auditioning to rerun as party leader. they had 13 years and look where we are. that's what the voters will be looking at. they'll be going, yeah, you had your time. your time over had your time. your time is over . you please the next . can you please call the next election as quickly as possible so actually have the
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so we can actually have the change? doctors and change? junior doctors and consultants in england have started a three day walkout . started a three day walkout. >> that's the longest ever penod >> that's the longest ever period of joint strike action until thursday at 7 am. they'll deliver what's been described as christmas day levels of staffing. their last joint strike in september led to almost 130,000 appointments being rescheduled . the being rescheduled. the government says the walkout is doing a massive disservice to patients . these doctors told us patients. these doctors told us why they've walked until and unless there is a credible pay offer, it will mean that doctors offer, it will mean that doctors of all grades , but especially of all grades, but especially senior doctors, will continue to leave the country for other places. >> and the nhs will continue to suffer. >> we are not planning for the future. there is going to be no staffing in the nhs. there's to going be no nhs in the future if we don't fight for our pay. so this a necessarily this is really a necessarily a fight individual fight about individual consultant papers say we're actually for the very actually fighting for the very future the nhs . future of the nhs. >> finally, companies >> and finally, water companies want to increase household bills
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by £156 a year by 2030. it's part of plans to fund upgrades and prevent 140,000 annual sewage spills . industry sewage spills. industry regulator ofwat says they will forensically scrutinise the scheme to ensure that the price hike is justified. it's expected to face a backlash from consumers struggling with the cost of living. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to mark and . pip ray, thanks to mark and. pip ray, thanks very much indeed. >> so it seems it's going to prove a taxing time for the tories at their party conference in manchester. jeremy hunt resisting calls for big tax cuts . more than 30 mps threatening not to vote through his autumn statement. if there's any hint of tax increases. >> the former prime minister liz truss will be giving a speech on
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the fringe of the conference to call for lower taxes , including call for lower taxes, including what she said should be a slashing of corporation tax . slashing of corporation tax. she's being supported by jacob rees—mogg and priti patel. so what is the rest of the party making of the divisions and the deepening debate at the heart of policy ? well, to shed a little policy? well, to shed a little bit of light on this , hopefully bit of light on this, hopefully gloria de piero is with energy minister andrew bowie. good afternoon, gloria. >> good to see you, pip. and mark, too. andrew bowie, you are the energy minister, your secretary of state your boss has just been speaking to conference since. obviously, you need to turn around that poll lead. you've got some goodies for voters , too. she said this to voters, too. she said this to the conference hall that your department would insulate thousands of social homes. i want to know how many . i want to want to know how many. i want to know who's going to benefit. i want to know when it's going to happen. how do you know if you're these you're going to be one of these beneficiaries? there's beneficiaries? well, there's going detail going to be a lot more detail coming out in due course,
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obviously, gloria. >> worked that >> but and we've worked out that 10,000 united 10,000 homes across the united kingdom will benefit the kingdom will benefit from the announcements being made today, of we'll be adding more of which we'll be adding more detail coming weeks . detail in the coming weeks. we'll be starting work we'll be starting the work immediately to ensure that these social get the support social homes get the support they insulate they need to insulate their homes so can fonnard homes so we can drive fonnard and ensure that nobody's in a home the insulation that home without the insulation that is required the 21st century. is required in the 21st century. that help keep that will help them keep their homes help us homes warm and also help us reach our taxing net zero targets. >> liz truss as we heard from my colleagues in the studio, she'll be speaking shortly on the fringes . of course, she's not in fringes. of course, she's not in the government anymore. she's going to be calling on rishi sunak to revive conservative values. are you pleased to see liz truss back and speaking with her voice at this conference? look this is a conservative party unlike some other political parties in this country, we actually value and political parties in this count|debate ctually value and political parties in this count|debate andlly value and political parties in this count|debate and puttinge and political parties in this count|debate and putting points enjoy debate and putting points of policy fonnard so we can discuss them and choose what's the best way to move fonnard. >> liz truss is a conservative mp, like any other, and mp, just like any other, and it'll it's great to see you it'll be it's great to see you
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here at conference. >> isn't helpful >> isn't it helpful to have these discussions debates these discussions and debates behind closed doors that might behind closed doors that might be way , gloria, be the labour party way, gloria, but to have debate in but we like to have debate in the is it helpful on the open. so is it helpful on the open. so is it helpful on the eve of, you know, jeremy hunt be speaking hunt will be speaking to conference, we're hunt will be speaking to contalking, we're hunt will be speaking to contalking about we're hunt will be speaking to contalking about trussre're hunt will be speaking to contalking about truss at'e all talking about liz truss at the and she's going the moment and what she's going to perhaps is , to say. my argument perhaps is, is that it would be more helpful if she those you if she made those points. you have forums in the have these forums in the conservative party, the existing all your case there, all parties put your case there, but she's doing at but she's doing it today at conference in public. >> all tory mps are welcome at tory conference. fonnard tory conference. looking fonnard to to later to what she's got to say later on contributes the on as she contributes to the debate we're having within debate that we're having within the party, which think the party, which i think is a good country. good thing for the country. >> what do you about cuts? >> think best tax >> well, i think the best tax cut we can deliver for people is to have inflation. that's the prime minister's number one priority. i'm pretty sure that's what chancellor is going what the chancellor is going to be afternoon. we be saying this afternoon. if we have the economy have inflation, get the economy growing our growing again and invest in our future, growing again and invest in our futlbritish growing again and invest in our futl british people. that's what the british people. that's what they expect us do. that they expect us to do. and that would thing we would be the best thing that we could them. senior could do for them. i senior seniors could do for them. i senior senars could do for them. i senior sena pollster, a prominent >> a pollster, a prominent pollster the name of frank pollster by the name of frank luntz, has said yesterday, if luntz, he has said yesterday, if you are a conservative mp with a
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majority of less than 8000, it's time to look for a different job. andrew, you will know your majority is 843. what are you going to be doing this time next year? >> this time next year, i hope to still be the member of parliament for west aberdeenshire and kincardine. a lot go under the lot of water to go under the bndge lot of water to go under the bridge next bridge yet before the next general and all myself bridge yet before the next gentall and all myself bridge yet before the next gentall of and all myself bridge yet before the next gentall of my and all myself bridge yet before the next gentall of my colleaguesnyself bridge yet before the next gentall of my colleaguesnyswut and all of my colleagues are out fighting single vote. fighting for every single vote. and got a strong and i think we've got a strong record of record we can be proud of and a strong vision for the future of this and i'm going to this country. and i'm going to be out there fighting, i know be out there fighting, as i know my and my colleagues are and constituents country. my colleagues are and corpollsents country. my colleagues are and corpollsents polls. country. my colleagues are and corpollsents polls. onlyitry. so polls are polls. the only poll that is the one poll that matters is the one that on election that takes place on election day. scottish day. and the scottish tories have times have been written off many times before to have been written off many times befcthe to have been written off many times befcthe tale to have been written off many times befcthe tale on to have been written off many times befcthe tale on the to have been written off many times befcthe tale on the by—election tell the tale on the by—election on thursday. >> is. >> indeed there is. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> mention tories >> yeah. mention of the tories in that we've got in the game. >> yeah. mention of the tories in tare we've got in the game. >> yeah. mention of the tories in tare you'e got in the game. >> yeah. mention of the tories in tare you absolutelye game. >> yeah. mention of the tories in tare you absolutely in|ame. >> yeah. mention of the tories in tare you absolutely in the). >> are you absolutely in the game? kerr, fantastic game? thomas kerr, a fantastic candidate wandering around. we're going to have to around. wtoe going to have to around. wto list going to have to around. wto list all|oing to have to around. wto list all the; to have to around. wto list all the otherave to have to list all the other candidates you've named candidates because you've named him. you. him. we will bring that to you. >> fighting a good >> oh, he's fighting a good fight. an uphill fight. obviously, it's an uphill battle. it very battle. the media framed it very much as a battle between labour and think if
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and the snp. but i think if you're and you and the snp. but i think if you'rnto and you and the snp. but i think if you'rnto strong and you want to see strong representation local representation for your local area delivered area from a chap who's delivered in council in glasgow already, then for thomas kerr then i'd vote for thomas kerr just just promise our just to just to promise our viewers that we will list all the candidates in that by—election on thursday in rutherglen. >> final to you . you >> final question to you. you are minister. should are an energy minister. should the chancellor, jeremy hunt, have a flight to have taken a flight to conference from london to to manchester attend conference? his train was cancelled . to be his train was cancelled. to be fair, yeah. >> i mean, look, it's been very difficult people getting to this conference result of the conference as a result of the unwarranted, necessary unwarranted, unfair, necessary train strikes that continue to blight the country. and so a lot of had to find different of people had to find different ways of getting to manchester than would othennise have been the to the case. so i'm not going to criticise the chancellor for having other plans having to take make other plans and to conference. and take a flight to conference. quite been quite a few people have been driving, quite a few people have been drivirof means of getting to sorts of means of getting to this conference venue. but as you behind me, the you can see behind me, the conference is really busy. it's buzzing and, buzzing full of good ideas and, you determined to you know, really determined to take labour party and take on the labour party and fight future of this country. >> how you home on wednesday? >> i'll flying home aberdeen. >> okay . andrew thank you aberdeen. >> (much andrew thank you aberdeen. >> (much indeed. thank you aberdeen. >> (much indeed. to hank you aberdeen. >> (much indeed. to pip( you
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very much indeed. back to pip and mark in the studio. what seems to be a flying visit to manchester on that ground. >> gloria, thank you for that. back throughout the back to you throughout the afternoon, let's back to you throughout the aftern our, let's back to you throughout the afternour political let's bring our political correspondent in catherine forster, who's been out and about there finding well, about there finding out, well, what's happening on the fringes because , well, it's centre because, well, it's centre stage, it seems in about 20 minutes. a former prime minister about to put both feet in on the central question of tax . central question of tax. >> yes . liz truss absolutely is >> yes. liz truss absolutely is rishi sunak is haunted by the ghosts of prime ministers past. i'll come back to that , but i'll come back to that, but we're going to go for a little walk. but first of all, just to say it's absolutely heaving here, this very lovely building was in fact once a railway station. if we can pan up, you can see the clock and the last train went out of here in 1969. so possibly an ironic venue for the concert . relatives who are the concert. relatives who are mired in controversy , aren't mired in controversy, aren't they, about hs2 ? will it come
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they, about hs2? will it come from birmingham to manchester, where it sounds very much like it won't. so not everybody happy to see the conservatives in manchester at all. mark harper, the transport secretary, has been let's let's go for a walk. mark harper, the transport secretary has been talking this morning and really defending the government's record on trains, saying they've invested £100 billion over the last few years . they've electrified large amounts of railway line. but really the focus seems to have shifted to the motorist following directly, i would suggest from the government's unexpected victor in uxbridge, where they campaigned against the ultra low emission zone, they seem to have found a real passion for defending drive overs and they're going to have a big push on this. they think that's going to win them votes. and if the polls are to be believed, been about believed, there have been about 20. let's go this way. let's go this way. there have been about
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20 points behind about 20 points behind for about a year , but they seem to be year, but they seem to be shifting. there was a poll the other that had them at just other day that had them at just i use that word advisedly, just put ten points behind . so put ten points behind. so i think rishi sunak will take some comfort from that. what he will not take comfort from is firstly the free wheeling of lots of people who would really rather like his job. kemi badenoch and trade minister suella braverman , the home secretary , priti , the home secretary, priti patel yes, sure . she's a patel yes, sure. she's a backbenchen patel yes, sure. she's a backbencher. she's a former home secretary. she's been having a go at suella braverman saying ministers really shouldn't be jockeying for sort of position for a leadership campaign, that they think will follow the general election . but of course, general election. but of course, she hasn't ruled out, ruled out being leader either. so and worst of all, potentially is the very prominent arriva all of
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rishi sunak predis assessor liz truss i don't know whether we can go back any further . it's can go back any further. it's absolutely rammed. can we go back a bit further than that? is going to pull a lot of focus. she's going to be giving a big speech over in the midland hotel at about 12:30. that's going to get a huge amount of media attention , an all around growth attention, an all around growth . we remember, of course, we've had pretty terrible growth since the financial crisis and she is not sitting quietly on the sidelines , i should say. she sidelines, i should say. she won't be the only former prime minister theresa may will be speaking at the conservative environment network fringe event tonight and plenty of people not too happy on that particular body about the government's softening of environmental pledges . but certainly rishi pledges. but certainly rishi sunak struggling to provide a
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united front here in manchester. >> catherine, thank you very much indeed for that. and a special award to our cameraman for walking backwards without bumping into the furniture very well done. excellent >> bumping into anyone or bumping into anyone. it's very, very possible. yeah well, liz truss , she is going to be truss, she is going to be speaking in about 15 minutes. one of those people that is very much backing what she has to say is the former conservative party chairman, sirjake berry , who we chairman, sir jake berry, who we understand is now with gloria. again hello , pip. again hello, pip. >> jake berry. >> jake berry. >> hey, good to see you . thanks >> hey, good to see you. thanks for having me on the show. >> a pleasure. liz truss is >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is going to she's a great >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is goinofo she's a great >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is goinofo you1e's a great >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is goinofo you servedjreat >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is goinofo you served init >> it's a pleasure. liz truss is goinofo you served in her ally of yours. you served in her cabinet. is it helpful to have these debates, to have for making these kinds of conference? >> i mean, i think i don't know what losing it quite heavily trailed , not least here on gb trailed, not least here on gb news. it's going to be calling for tax cuts. look, party conferences where you conferences are where you traditionally debate traditionally have a debate about is last about policy. this is the last conference we'll before the conference we'll have before the general election, that general election, before that
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manifesto written, or maybe manifesto is written, or maybe the conference have the last conference will have certainly the last one we have before is before that manifesto is written. i think liz is having a stimulating in the party stimulating debate in the party about the future of conservatism i >>i >> i welcome it and it was trialled and she wants to call on rishi sunak to revive conservative values as our rishi sunakis conservative values as our rishi sunak is jeremy hunt. are they both traditional conservatives or do they need a little bit of a nudge to remind them what re—education? >> look, i think rishi sunak and jeremy hunt are fine conservatives. we're just quite a party. i think it's a broad party. and i think it's good that we hear these voices from different viewpoints. but if you look at what rishi sunak has done recently, he he's cut back his net zero, back on a lot of his net zero, very targets . we're still very hard targets. we're still going to deliver net zero. but let's people's lives by let's not ruin people's lives by doing . we're let's not ruin people's lives by doing .we're hearing let's not ruin people's lives by doing . we're hearing good doing it. we're hearing good things from jeremy hunt and michael actually yesterday michael gove. actually yesterday about go to cut about wanting to go to cut taxes. my constituents in rossendale and dannen, they went really, really hard to earn the money they take home at the money that they take home at the end of the week with them. the government's their
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end of the week with them. the governn at it's their end of the week with them. the governnatlt's moment.eir end of the week with them. the governnatlt's moment. it's pockets at the moment. it's taking out it's not taking too much out and it's not unconservative to want a debate about people about how we can help people keep their own money in keep more of their own money in the first place. are you confident jeremy hunt will confident that jeremy hunt will deliver income tax cuts before that next general election? >> or perhaps even promise them in the tory manifesto? what's your bottom line? what's your red line on this? >> well, it's for to have >> well, it's not for me to have a line. i'm just a backbench a red line. i'm just a backbench mp. it's the government's. so what think , you know, what we do, i think, you know, people that there people understand that there worked really hard to make that money. they don't want the government taking money. they don't want the goveofment taking money. they don't want the goveofmerthe taking money. they don't want the goveofmerthe national taking money. they don't want the goveofmerthe national wealth|g 37% of all the national wealth to pay for public services. that's great. we need public services reliant, but i think people that enough is people just think that enough is enough. i've enough. and that's why i've launched pledge signed launched this tax pledge signed by my other colleagues by 32 of my other colleagues saying won't put taxes up any saying we won't put taxes up any more. it's low bar. it's great saying we won't put taxes up any mthave.'s low bar. it's great saying we won't put taxes up any mthave so low bar. it's great saying we won't put taxes up any mthave so manybar. it's great saying we won't put taxes up any mthave so many conservative. saying we won't put taxes up any mthave so many conservative mps to have so many conservative mps supporting it. and i think we've heard a change in the language from michael from jeremy hunt and michael gove. gloria only this time last year reflecting in the year i was reflecting in the bath morning were bath this morning as we were talking about only time talking about only this time last michael gove was last year, michael gove was going conference saying going around conference saying it unconservative to promise
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it is unconservative to promise to cut taxes. what a difference a year makes. michael gove he's back in the game. come on govie. let's get those taxes down and those 32 tory mps, as you would 33, including me, 33 you would vote against. >> no, no, we just. >> no, no, we just. >> we just won't vote for more tax increases. we're building the numbers up. >> a budget. >> staying on a budget. >> staying on a budget. >> depends . we'll have >> well, it depends. we'll have to and don't think to wait and see. i don't think i think new block think because of this new block of tory mps. well, doesn't of tory mps. well, it doesn't stop the government raising taxes. they still put tax up taxes. they can still put tax up on cigarettes and alcohol. they've just got find a way they've just got to find a way of somewhere else. and of saving it somewhere else. and i think that this of i think that this new bloc of conservative mps and we welcome members other conservative mps and we welcome membein other conservative mps and we welcome membein pledge other conservative mps and we welcome membein pledge to other conservative mps and we welcome membein pledge to the other parties in a pledge to the conservative party, it's a pledge voters pledge to my voters in rossendale i don't rossendale and dannen. i don't think bring think the government will bring fonnard with an fonnard a budget with an increase overall tax increase in the overall tax budget will they budget because they will they will understand it not will understand that it is not supported by members of parliament, but look, let me ask you this question, right? why do taxes keep going up? well you tell no, no, you tell me. tell me. no, no, you tell me. i'm the question i'm asking the question because the government putting the government keep putting them up. mps keep voting up. it's because mps keep voting for the up. it's because mps keep voting for pledge the up. it's because mps keep voting for pledge is the up. it's because mps keep voting for pledge is about, the
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up. it's because mps keep voting for pledge is about, changing . tax pledge is about, changing. and i'll just say one final thing on that's why you thing on it. that's why you should know, should say if you, you know, won't anymore. won't do it anymore. well, that's i've won't do it anymore. well, that's a i've won't do it anymore. well, that's a pledge i've won't do it anymore. well, that's a pledge to i've won't do it anymore. well, that's a pledge to my i've won't do it anymore. well, that's a pledge to my voters in made a pledge to my voters in rossendale that rossendale and dannen that i won't up with your won't put them up with your colleagues. well, that's the start. very quietly start. we did it very quietly amongst . we getting in amongst mps. we are getting in fact, one fact, i've got another one today. be making an today. i'm going to be making an announcement shortly of our next tranche. , okay, you tranche. but look, okay, you know, can't it both know, you can't have it both ways if don't with ways. if we don't agree with people smoking , we tax on people smoking, we put tax up on cigarettes. don't with cigarettes. we don't agree with people drinking. although i love a tax up on a drink, we put tax up on alcohol. you know, we're alcohol. but you know, we're also taxes also putting taxes up on business. if taxes stop you doing things , why are we doing bad things, why are we putting on business? putting taxes up on business? it's the economics of the blob. it's the economics of the blob. it's blob genomics. we need a lower high economy. lower tax, high growth economy. and that jeremy hunt, and i know that jeremy hunt, we're to hear things we're going to hear great things from and i know that from him today. and i know that jeremy hunt going deliver jeremy hunt is going to deliver that for us. >> jake barrett, it's always pleasure. >> lovely, lovely to be with you pleasure. >> lo forr, lovely to be with you pleasure. >> lo for your ely to be with you pleasure. >> lo for your time. be with you again for your time. >> talking from jake >> straight talking from jake berry and berry there. back to pip and mark studio . mark in the studio. >> gloria, thank you. and of course , we did mention that course, we did mention that we've by—election this we've got a by—election this week thursday in rutherglen week on thursday in rutherglen and hamilton west.
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week on thursday in rutherglen and hamilton west . and just to and hamilton west. and just to be clear that we have these candidates , we'll give you the candidates, we'll give you the list. now gloria adebo for scottish liberal democrats, bill bonner for scottish socialist party , gary cook and andrew daly party, gary cook and andrew daly , independent cameron eadie, scottish greens prince and love, emperor of india. >> niall fraser, scottish family party. ewan hoyle volt uk. thomas kerr scottish conservatives. katie loudon snp . chris samani . scottish labour . chris samani. scottish labour . david stark reform uk collette walker independence for scotland party. >> and of course we'll have full coverage of that by—election for you here on thursday on gb news and coming up, as well as the full coverage of the party conference, liz truss due at that hotel in about ten minutes. we're told the queues are snaking up and down the flights of the stairs at the midland hotel for her speech. even though it's a fringe . also
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though it's a fringe. also coming up live from the picket lines , junior doctors joining lines, junior doctors joining consultants launch their consultants to launch their longest strike action longest combined strike action yet. we'll have all the latest for you live here the live for you live here on the live desk
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christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back live to manchester shortly. but let's reflect junior doctors and consultants joining forces today on the picket lines across the country. the longest combined strike action. so far in this
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long running dispute with the government over pay. >> week , nearly 27,000 >> last week, nearly 27,000 staff were absent from work due to industrial action and since strikes began, nhs england data shows that the total number of acute appointments rescheduled exceeded 1 million. >> well, some of those patients now opting to get their care within their own home as our national reporter, theo chikomba has been finding out in blackburn, lancashire . blackburn, lancashire. >> well, if you go to the hospital , there's no there's no hospital, there's no there's no guarantee you're going to be treated within, say , eight hours treated within, say, eight hours time. neil it's only me since february 2022, neil has been receiving care from his home, which he describes as a godsend i >> and now he avoids long waits and says it puts less pressure on his family to take him to the hospital for routine checks and treatment and to change my dressings . dressings. >> on may 4th, every every
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tuesday , which is fantastic . you tuesday, which is fantastic. you know, instead of having to trail up to royal blackburn or maybe even go as far as burnley. so that's great. i have a nurse coming to the change change me bandage and me and my own home. >> as a patient of the royal blackburn hospital, clinical home care was set up for him to treat his severe eczema . treat his severe eczema. >> it does make a massive difference , particularly to difference, particularly to people like neil because cause he's it's very difficult for him to mobilise outside of his home and does impact on his family as well. but you know, so for people to have to get to the hospital each time they needed treatment is quite a big strain on them. really together with the condition that they're already facing across the country, junior doctors will be taking strike for action the seventh time and it will be the second joint walkout for junior
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doctors and consultants as consultants pay has been falling , more and more consultants are choosing to leave the nhs, leave the uk and go and work in other countries where they are paid fairly and their terms and their conditions of working are better because they haven't got such a staffing crisis in the uk . staffing crisis in the uk. >> we're left with an nhs that has a workforce crisis. because of this government's policies . of this government's policies. that means that we never have enough doctors and those that are working here are trying to cover the work for the doctors that aren't there . that aren't there. >> as for neil, he says the two hour he gets at his hour appointments he gets at his home are invaluable at a time when nhs services and staff say they are feeling the pressure. theo chikomba gb news blackburn well , let's talk to gb news well, let's talk to gb news national reporter jack carson, who we understand is outside manchester royal infirmary. >> jack, the government are calling again for doctors to step away from what they say is this incredibly damaging strike
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action. yeah that's right, pip. >> i mean across nhs hospitals in england today, you're only going to get levels of service previous seen of course, on christmas day every year because of this mass walkout, this joint strike between the junior doctors and those senior consultants as well. and it has led the nhs, england medical director sir stephen powell, to come out and say that this is going to be an extremely challenging few days for them because of course it was only a couple when had couple of weeks ago when we had that walkout , that first joint walkout, although was only 24 hours. although that was only 24 hours. this is 72. so the nhs is this is 72. and so the nhs is struggling to keep up from the disruption that that last strike caused. and now, of course, having to with having to deal with the disruption one causes disruption that this one causes as of course, the as well. but of course, the doctors on the picket line doctors were on the picket line here this morning. they were telling they've telling me all about why they've wanted out on the picket wanted to come out on the picket line today and it's line today and why it's important the government important that the government listen to them. >> work as a consultant >> so i work as a consultant psychiatrist i can tell you psychiatrist and i can tell you that for the last ten years, i don't think there has been a single period in which my
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hospital has not had to employ some temporary staff or some locum consultants . and that is locum consultants. and that is because not only are we not training enough doctors, we are losing doctors, we are haemorrhaging our talent to other places . and unless that other places. and unless that happens, it means the quality of care can't be preserved. it means that patients can't get the standard of service that they rightly expect and our medical schools that are training doctors will be training doctors will be training doctors will be training doctors that will go to other places. the message that we are saying is that we will continue to take the action we need to do until the government comes with us, with a credible offer. >> i'm prepared to keep striking until we see some negotiation . until we see some negotiation. and that's the point. the government aren't coming to the table and actually that's disingenuous to say it's an indian pendant review body because it's not independent at all. they've interfered with it . how can that possibly be independent? and, you know, for me, is that over the me, the problem is that over the past 10 to 15 years, we've seen
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attrition of our pay. when you take inflation, take into account inflation, we haven't kept pay parity with other professions and other similar professions and perhaps it's not so much maybe about people. at my stage i'm a consulting, but i'm probably going until i'm going to be working until i'm 60. so that's not 60. i'm 54 now, so that's not too to go. but it's really too long to go. but it's really about the next generation. they're really, really they're having it really, really tough. like tough. you know, if people like me and are me are dissatisfied and are burnt out because we are working longer and harder with fewer staff because they're leaving, we there is going to be we know there is going to be nobody to train next nobody to train the next generation doctors, next generation of doctors, the next generation of doctors, the next generation . they've generation of doctors. they've got they got young families. they can't afford mortgages. are afford their mortgages. they are getting headhunted getting poached and headhunted overseas. we this all the overseas. we see this all the time and the medical students time. and the medical students that coming through, they're that are coming through, they're coming to the point of graduation then them graduation and then many of them are decision to leave are making a decision to leave medicine. of medicine. so there's a lot of attrition at that point. and i've medical students who i've got medical students who i look who are actually look after who are actually in the middle their studies, the middle of their studies, who are what's happening are looking at what's happening financially and now making a decision they're decision about whether they're going carry on with their going to carry on with their studies we are not studies or not. so we are not planning the there planning for the future. there is going staffing is to going be no staffing in the going to be no
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the nhs. there's going to be no nhs don't nhs in the future if we don't fight pay . yeah well fight for our pay. yeah well obviously you heard they're talking a lot about the future generation and what the next generation and what the next generation of doctors might well inhent generation of doctors might well inherit an nhs. inherit in the form of an nhs. >> of course bringing it >> but of course bringing it back present and back to the present and the current , course, current generation, of course, trying care. new data out trying to get care. new data out showing that over 1 trying to get care. new data out showing that over1 million showing that over 1 million appointments operations have appointments and operations have had to rescheduled since his had to be rescheduled since his nhs september and nhs strikes in september and that nhs waiting list now grows to 7.7 million people. so increasing waiting lists and a new poll showing that actually 42% of people blame the government for the increase in those waiting times. only 15% alluding to, of course, this industrial strike action. but where it ends? sure where there is an end in sight, of course, because. steve barclay is not going to of course , go come back going to of course, go come back to the negotiating table. and so these strikes look to set to continue some time . continue for some time. >> tom, jack, thank you very much for updating us there on the picket line in manchester. but stay in manchester, but let's stay in manchester, but go over to the midland
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hotel. as we said, they were queuing and down the stairs queuing up and down the stairs to hear a speech from truss, to hear a speech from liz truss, former prime minister, and transform ing our media landscape . landscape. >> so long may it continue . to >> so long may it continue. to now what we need to do as a party and as a country is make life easier and better for families across our land and the way we're going to do that is by making britain grow again progress . progress. >> we made some progress. progress. >> we made some progress . we've >> we made some progress. we've delayed the ban on boilers . delayed the ban on boilers. we've delayed the ban on cars. but we need to do more because it's conservative solutions , it's conservative solutions, it's conservative solutions, it's conservative solutions, it's conservative arguments that are popular with the public, but it's also those arguments that are going to deliver . what are going to deliver. what i want to talk about today is three things that we can do now as conservative moves to really
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change the agenda . axing the tax change the agenda. axing the tax , cutting the bills and building the homes . so let's start with the homes. so let's start with axing the tax. we need to unleash business across britain . we need people to want to invest in our country. we need businesses to be able to expand to grow, to create new jobs, to create new ideas . and that's why create new ideas. and that's why i'm calling upon the chancellor at the autumn statement to put corporation tax back down to 19. and frankly , if we can get it and frankly, if we can get it lower, the better, because what we know is we know that when businesses are able to keep more of those funds , the future comes of those funds, the future comes from it's where the opportunities come from. it's where the jobs come from and what we know now is that at the moment we're seeing businesses
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not locate. in the united kingdom, we saw astrazeneca choose to locate elsewhere. we've seen small companies struggling with the level of tax and regulation. we've seen a flight out of britain of high net worth individuals , third net worth individuals, third only to india and china. in fact, ahead of russia. so what we need to do is we need to be hungry to get those businesses back and we need to be hungry to attract to business our country. and we need to make the conservative party, the party of business again , because what we business again, because what we know is that economic growth and making britain grow again is not going to be delivered by the treasury . it's not going to be treasury. it's not going to be delivered by more public spending. it's not going to be delivered more regulation delivered by more regulation action. to be action. it's going to be delivered by giving businesses the freedom they need succeed the freedom they need to succeed . it's going to be propelled by that. and the fact is that over the last 25 years, we've had
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relatively low economic growth growth. we've had relative economic stagnation. and the only thing that is going to break through that is businesses and entrepreneurs being able to do things differently , being do things differently, being able to invest, being able to grow, being able to build new factories, being able to employ people. that is what is going to drive our country fonnard. and as conservatives , we need to be as conservatives, we need to be prepared to make that argument for business because business shouldn't be a cash cow to be milked . it's a future investment milked. it's a future investment in our prosperity . the second in our prosperity. the second thing we need to do is cut the bills. now people in britain are paying bills. now people in britain are paying some of the highest energy bills in europe , and our energy bills in europe, and our businesses are also paying high energy bills and what does that mean? well, it means that we end up exporting jobs overseas. we end up producing . do.some in
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end up producing. do.some in britain. and what we need to do is we need to cut those bills . is we need to cut those bills. and it's possible it's possible to do that because we can see what's happened in the united states when they started using shale gas, we can see what's happenedin shale gas, we can see what's happened in other countries when they've seen a greater production of energy and we can learn those lessons here in the united kingdom. now some environmentalists will say using our own gas is not environmentally friendly , but environmentally friendly, but how environmentally friendly is it to rely on regimes abroad and often whom have very poor records for our gas to ship that gas into the united kingdom , gas into the united kingdom, often at base environmental cost that and financial cost? how environmentally friendly is that? and currently we are projected to be importing two
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acas within ten years. now we are sitting on 50 years worth of sustainable gas. can you imagine if we unleash that and what that would mean for households , what would mean for households, what that would mean for businesses ? that would mean for businesses? well, we can see from the united states that their energy bills are half what our energy bills are half what our energy bills are here. can you imagine the impact it would have on the british economy if we did that? if we unleash that gas that we are sitting on at the moment in to our economy ? and the fact is to our economy? and the fact is that we have already made progress. we are now licencing new fields in the north sea, but we need to make more progress. we need to unlock our potential , develop our economic security . we deliver cheap bills for people across the country, which they're desperately in need of, with the difficulties we have with the difficulties we have with cost of living at the same time as making our industries
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efficient, effective and competitive . and the third thing competitive. and the third thing we need to do is we need to build more homes. the fact is we haven't built enough homes at andits haven't built enough homes at and it's incredibly difficult if you're a young person to get on the property ladder. it's incredibly difficult to even rent a property in big cities like manchester and london. it's just far too expensive . and just far too expensive. and whilst lots of members of parliament talk about building more homes , it's very difficult more homes, it's very difficult to actually get them to vote for reducing the regulation that's stopping the homes being built. it's all about protecting getting newts or installing a bat bridge that appears to be the priority rather than building homes. so i think we need to turbocharge the incentives . we need to incentives. we need to incentivise local areas to build more homes through giving them tax breaks if they're prepared to get rid of that red tape. and i think we need to do it at a
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level so we are building 500,000 new homes every year. i think thatis new homes every year. i think that is the state we are now in. the prices are so high, the cost of living is so difficult for families that we need to build 500,000 homes every year . and 500,000 homes every year. and that won't just mean people will find it easier to get into a home. people will find it easier to start a family because there will be more affordable housing and employers will find it easier to employ people somewhere because their workers can afford homes. it will also save the government money. it will save the government money because we will cut our housing benefit bill. we will not need to intervene so much in the housing market because we are making the prices cheaper and thatis making the prices cheaper and that is fundamental to what these reforms should be about. so there are three things we can
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do . we can axe the tax , we can do. we can axe the tax, we can cut the bills and we can build the homes . but cut the bills and we can build the homes. but i'm cut the bills and we can build the homes . but i'm in no cut the bills and we can build the homes. but i'm in no under no illusion, i don't think this is necessarily easy for us to do . it's difficult. but we need to be prepared to do the difficult things because that is what will make britain grow again . and all make britain grow again. and all of the people in this room, mainly miners, some of the members of the media, all of the people in this room, need to be out there making those arguments because people need to hear those concerns . lviv arguments. those concerns. lviv arguments. again, the way we're going to bnng again, the way we're going to bring the price of housing down or the price of energy down is not through a rent cap or price controls. it's through more supply. it's simply by having more of it. that's what will bnng more of it. that's what will bring prices down. that is a free market conservative argument. the second thing . and argument. the second thing. and people need to hear these
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arguments again, the second thing we need to do is acknowledge where we are now. now, some people have been claiming that we live in some kind of free market paradise in britain, that somehow the problems we have are a result of too much neo liberalism . look at too much neo liberalism. look at the facts . government spending the facts. government spending is a proportion of gdp is now 46. it has not been higher since the 1970s and in fact it was lower for most of the 1970s. apart from 1975. that is the only year where government spending as a proportion of gdp has been higher. so we need to acknowledge that government is too big, that taxes are too high, and that we are spending too much. that's very important . and the final thing we need to do is actually bring these arguments home to people. so what does it actually mean for
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people across the united kingdom that we haven't grown as much as we could have? well if we'd grown as much as america , if we grown as much as america, if we had the same gdp per capita as america , the average brit would america, the average brit would be £9,000 better off. now think what that means. think what that means for the ability to buy a new car , the ability to go on new car, the ability to go on holiday, the ability to buy something for your children. that makes a huge difference to the average person in britain . the average person in britain. and that is what we have to talk about now. we have to talk about the results of this policy . so the results of this policy. so let's stop taxing and banning things . let's instead build things. let's instead build things. let's instead build things and make things . let's be things and make things. let's be prepared to make conservative arguments again, even if it's unpopular . even if it's unpopular. even if it's difficult. i want everybody in this room to unleash their inner conservative. and finally , my conservative. and finally, my friends, let's make britain grow
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again . thank you . so this is liz again. thank you. so this is liz truss leaving that podium at the midland hotel and just to reflect, this is not actually in the conference itself. >> it is a fringe event. but let's bring in our political editor , christopher hope, who's editor, christopher hope, who's beenin editor, christopher hope, who's been in the conference hall with the other people listening to that. what's been the reception within the conference itself? chris >> well, you can hear they're just that response there, that cheering in that room, let's make britain grow again is almost trumpian . let's make almost trumpian. let's make britain great again. of course , britain great again. of course, is donald trump's appeal to his supporters for next year's election in america. and let's stop taxing things. let's let's stop taxing things. let's let's stop banning things. let's build things and make things that is red, raw appeal to the tory party's grass roots, massive cheen party's grass roots, massive cheer. there of course, nowhere near where i am in the conference conference centre over the road there in the middle of the midland hotel. but that's what many, i think activists have been missing,
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missing the halls often here is empty for big speeches as empty for the big speeches as they these fringe they are in these fringe meetings activists meetings. the activists have had these leader rishi sunak these this leader rishi sunak imposed their heads by mps imposed over their heads by mps liz truss and before that boris johnson ousted by mps. and that's where the tension is here at the tory party conference. mark chris, it's only a year ago of course, that liz truss was prime minister. >> she was speaking about growth. growth growth. and then a few weeks later she was gone. how helpful do tory mps think it is for her to be present at this conference? stop laughing , mark. conference? stop laughing, mark. >> probably not. >> probably not. >> not that not that helpful because we have got jeremy hunt, the chancellor, speaking at 2 pm. that normally is the big set piece occasion. but of course, i'm not sure how many are going to be in there because we're going to hear news on things like the increased we're going to hear news on things living|e increased we're going to hear news on things living wage, zased we're going to hear news on things living wage, zase things living, living wage, but things people want to hear about, which are cuts . will hs2 be built are tax cuts. will hs2 be built ? i'm not going to be there.
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it's all going to be about productivity, getting more people cutting people back to work, cutting their bill that's what their benefits. bill that's what he to talk but i he wants to talk about. but i think this this the think what this this the activists speak to, want activists i speak to, they want to leg on tax cuts. and to see more leg on tax cuts. and that's what hear from that's not what we'll hear from jeremy hunt . jeremy hunt. >> let's cut to the chase. what was the point her speech ? was the point of her speech? because we didn't actually hear that much . that was new. it's that much. that was new. it's familiar in terms of growth familiar fare in terms of growth in the economy , low tax and so in the economy, low tax and so on. but the timing and of course, the positioning is very important . just before jeremy important. just before jeremy hunt takes to the stage there in the conference. >> that's right. it makes jeremy hunt have to answer what what liz truss has said in that speech. that's not easy. i mean, she said there she wants to bnng she said there she wants to bring down corporation tax back to 19% and go lower was what she said there. cut bills of course, and many people watching gb news here will be worrying about their bills and bill more homes, 500,000 a that's more than 500,000 a year. that's more than twice the 220,000 built currently per year. and that's
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where she wants it. so she said get on with it. the big problem with liz truss, this growth agenda was last year when she went doing before went ahead of doing it before any pay for it. any idea of how to pay for it. the was debt the the idea was more debt and the markets like that and the markets didn't like that and the timing was very bad. but liz truss away . she's truss hasn't gone away. she's not apologetic. she's back here, back at tory party back at the tory party conference with her agenda. and next this time next year, next year, this time next year, we looking a we could be looking at a tory leadership in liz leadership election in and liz truss will have a big role to leadership election in and liz trussin ill have a big role to leadership election in and liz trussin that. ve a big role to leadership election in and liz trussin that. yeah, ig role to leadership election in and liz trussin that. yeah, i'm)le to leadership election in and liz trussin that. yeah, i'm just) play in that. yeah, i'm just looking at what the shadow chief secretary the treasury, secretary of the treasury, darren jones, made she darren jones, made of what she was expected to say. >> don't think reacted >> i don't think he's reacted since been speaking, since she's been speaking, talking fantasy talking about the same fantasy economics that crashed the economy 12 months ago. and of course, about course, she has talked about let's leave the market, find the solutions. well, i mean, their verdict last time was basically to get rid of her and kwasi kwarteng. well that's right. >> but it's slightly unfair on darren jones, because i think the idea is that liz just is pushing certainly the agenda pushing was certainly the agenda that she got the members of that she she got the members of the to party vote her in for.
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but it was the rush. it was the lack of any workings from the treasury treasury bosses treasury. the treasury bosses were kwasi kwarteng were fired as kwasi kwarteng came rather resigned as kwasi came or rather resigned as kwasi kwarteng came in. and that's the point . so where was the actual point. so where was the actual evidence why? who's going point. so where was the actual evidfor:e why? who's going point. so where was the actual evidfor this? why? who's going point. so where was the actual evidfor this? who who's going point. so where was the actual evidfor this? who will's going point. so where was the actual evidfor this? who will's gothe pay for this? who will pay the bills? many the tory bills? many people in the tory party me they think is party tell me they think this is just track . but it party tell me they think this is just too track . but it party tell me they think this is just too much, track . but it party tell me they think this is just too much, tooack . but it party tell me they think this is just too much, too muctht it party tell me they think this is just too much, too much at it party tell me they think this is just too much, too much at once was too much, too much at once and too much of a rush. that and too much of a rush. and that was part of the problem . was part of the problem. >> oh, chris, can you still hear us? i was just saying , chris, on us? i was just saying, chris, on the other problem being that they haven't got the obr on board to effectively mark their homework before releasing it to the public. >> that was right. that was all a year ago. and i think that's the warning. and that's where you've got labour saying they're going that the obr going to make sure that the obr have right to take have a legal right to take action when chancellor does action when a chancellor does something. so almost to tie the hands of future chancellors because what truss did because of what liz truss did last year with kwasi kwarteng. so i think what we are seeing today eruption of this today is the eruption of this
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debate on the fringes. debate happening on the fringes. and when you talk people and when you talk to people privately i've privately in the bars like i've been the party been doing at the party conference, what they're conference, this is what they're talking when tax talking about, how when the tax are cut, will are going to be cut, how will the where the economy get growing? where is actual is the where is the actual appeal tory supporters ? appeal to tory supporters? >> chris, covered many of >> chris, you've covered many of these tory party conferences . these tory party conferences. how unusual is this one? liz truss criticising the approach of her successor ? of her successor? >> i can't think of a single time when we've seen a former prime minister or former tory party leader take such aim at the record gone before . normally the record gone before. normally the record gone before. normally the party leaders are meant to take a vow of silence like a trappist monk appear again. trappist monk not appear again. and going do some good and it's going to do some good works for charity or a works for charity or write a book, a memoir that should mean they're scene for a few they're off the scene for a few years, never just literally years, but never just literally barely , not even a year after barely, not even a year after they quit, are they doing a fringe meeting trying to challenge this government to do something couldn't do something that they couldn't do when were power? when they were in power? it's unusual. when they were in power? it's unusual . well, it's great unusual. well, it's not a great look. looking the look. we're looking into the labour conference next week. i think happy . think number 10 won't be happy. >> christopher hope gb news is
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political editor. thank you for your analysis. there peak scotrail fares are being scrapped from today in a six month trial which aims to encourage more people to travel well by well to travel by train instead of by car . instead of by car. >> indeed, it doesn't seem to have worked at manchester, of course. however, this project, funded scottish funded by the scottish government allow customers to government to allow customers to travel day at off peak fares travel all day at off peak fares until the end of march 2024. scotrail said the trial will see massive savings across the country. >> for example , all the fare >> for example, all the fare from edinburgh to glasgow via falkirk high will drop from £28.90 to £14, 90. >> let's go live to glasgow now and speak to our scotland reporter tony maguire, who's been check his wallet to see where he can afford to get to. and as with an awful lot of other people, i guess, tony, because there's a huge difference, of course, between these off peak and what effectively a rush our fares . effectively a rush our fares. >> yes, that's correct, mark.
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certainly this is quite a welcome few pounds in the pockets of scots as this cost of living crisis continues on. and as you mentioned there, that's quite a quite an extra saving about £15 each journey. now that adds up to obviously around £75 adds up to obviously around £75 a week. and then onwards to we're looking at savings of around £1,800 over the course of this six month trial. so the scottish government has put 15 million into this this this plan . and obviously over the course of the next few months, their hopeis of the next few months, their hope is that more people will leave the cars parked in the driveway and turn to trains. now, some of the more frequent commuters that make journeys around scotland , well, they're around scotland, well, they're used to getting the season tickets. now, those prices won't won't change any. neither will the flexi pass. and indeed the super off peak tickets will they will they were also withdrawn by
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scotrail. but in the face of it, for these individual tickets , for these individual tickets, it's going to be quite a huge saving. now, humza yousaf , he saving. now, humza yousaf, he spoke out yesterday and he said that he hoped that this was finally going to be a chance to make rail more accessible , make rail more accessible, available and affordable as well as obviously boosting the green credentials. but of course it wasn't so long ago in 2021, and perhaps even sooner, where it was actually more expensive to get from glasgow to london by train than it was by plane. now, that wasn't particularly a good look. and of course , 18 months look. and of course, 18 months ago, finally we saw the renationalisation of scotrail and hopefully a lot well, a lot of commuters will be hoping that this new scheme to really bring tear down the barriers of expensive rail travel, which has gone up and up in previous years , including even a 5% increase to rail tickets as it as soon as july, there . and that this is
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july, there. and that this is hopefully going to bring people back to the rails. of course , as back to the rails. of course, as scotrail have been reported, around 70% down on pre—covid levels when it comes to commuters using the services around scotland . and but of around scotland. and but of course , covid, we have to make course, covid, we have to make allowances for the fact that a lot of people are working from home, either hybrid or remote working . so first day of the working. so first day of the trial will certainly see how things shape up over the weeks and months ahead and of course, how they cope with industrial action still bedevilling the tracks on many of the uk's rail lines as well. >> tony for the moment in glasgow, thank you very much indeed. were saying, indeed. well, as we were saying, many people up at many people turned up at manchester car, manchester by by plane, by car, not by rail. but one man who got there by air has been wearing a hard hat for some particular reason today . could it be reason today. could it be anything to do with his speech later ? later? >> might need to >> well, he might need to do a bit ducking this afternoon bit of ducking this afternoon after at the tory after his speech at the tory party because
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party conference, because although the former prime minister, truss , is calling minister, liz truss, is calling for taxes to be cut, it doesn't sound like that's what jeremy hunt is planning to do due to what he says are inflationary pressu res. >> pressures. >> yeah, trying to do some numbers it seems there on that wall. but clearly he is indicating in terms of this keynote speech, too, that he's going to be looking at the minimum wage and trying to encourage people back into work rather than taking benefits . but rather than taking benefits. but also this huge question of on tax with liz truss again calling for more well corporation cut tax cut to 18% or 19. let's stop taxing , she said, tax cut to 18% or 19. let's stop taxing, she said, and tax cut to 18% or 19. let's stop taxing , she said, and get taxing, she said, and get britain growing, indicating that if we had the same gdp or growth in the economy as the us, the average briton would be £9,000 better off. >> yeah. the chancellor, jeremy hunt will be live from the conservative party conference this afternoon and we will be bringing it to you here on gb
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news from manchester. >> stay with us. we'll have the latest for you . latest for you. >> i'm alex deakin . this is your >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. something of a north south split with the weather today and then the for some pretty the potential for some pretty heavy parts central heavy rain over parts of central and eastern england tonight. so there's areas of low there's two areas of low pressure . this one moving up pressure. this one moving up from is bringing some from the south is bringing some quite warm air, but it's also bringing lot of clouds and bringing a lot of clouds and damp and drizzly across damp and drizzly feel across southwest england, much of north wales rain and drizzle on wales light rain and drizzle on and off here, into and off here, pushing into north—west something north—west england to something a bit brighter parts of a bit brighter over parts of eastern england and some good spells sunshine scotland spells of sunshine for scotland and northern although and northern ireland, although plenty coming plenty of showers. also coming in a brisk wind across the in on a brisk wind across the highlands western isles. highlands and the western isles. temperatures mid temperatures here in the mid teens further south with a bit of brightness, could easily of brightness, we could easily creep the but then creep into the 20s, but then later on the rain is likely to turn heavier over the midlands, particularly east midlands, particularly the east midlands, through parts lincolnshire through parts of lincolnshire dunng through parts of lincolnshire during and during the evening, and especially parts of norfolk. especially for parts of norfolk. we catch some
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rain. >> good afternoon. it is 1:00 and you're with the live desk here on gb news. coming up this monday lunchtime , a call to cut monday lunchtime, a call to cut taxes and get britain moving. >> a message from i'm a former prime minister liz truss, speaking outside the tory party conference. the fringe speech saying that cutting taxes would unleash business and create more jobs. >> but she is at odds with the chancellor, jeremy hunt, who is expected to reject calls for big tax cuts. any time soon. we'll have his speech live from the tory party conference in manchester. >> junior doctors joining consultants to launch their longest combined strike yet, a three day walkout in the long running dispute over pay. but
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what will break the deadlock . what will break the deadlock. >> we'll also take our hats off to europe's victorious ryder cup team. butjust to europe's victorious ryder cup team. but just why has golf become such a bogey sport? first, let's tee off with all your news headlines. here's ray addison . on addison. on >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top story this hour, liz truss has called on the chancellor to cut corporation tax back to 19% in the next autumn statement speech at a fringe rally event , the former fringe rally event, the former prime minister urged the tory leadership to axe the tax cut bills and build homes. ms truss said businesses are now choosing not to locate in the united kingdom and they shouldn't be
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treated like a cash cow to be milked well. meanwhile the government says no substantial tax cuts are possible this year. speaking to gb news, jeremy hunt ruled out any reductions in income or inheritance tax. he blamed an increase in the government's debt interest payments and said his priority is to bring inflation right down. well i'm saying that no tax cuts are possible in a substantial way at the moment. >> so it's not just inheritance tax, it's income tax. it's all the different taxes that people look at. if we start having big tax cuts, it would be inflationary . and when we've got inflationary. and when we've got inflationary. and when we've got inflation at 6.7, it's come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot. but it needs to come down a lot more. and the fastest way we can give help to families who are finding life really tough is to get inflation right down and that's the priority of me and the prime minister >> our efforts to reduce carbon emissions won't come at the expense of bill payers . that's expense of bill payers. that's according to the energy secretary . speaking at the tory secretary. speaking at the tory
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party conference in manchester, claire coutinho said protest groups such as just stop oil are out of touch with taxpayers . out of touch with taxpayers. >> it is these zealots that would see the cause of climate change lost. they are more concerned with signalling their own purity than with energising the cause of climate change. they don't seek to persuade , they don't seek to persuade, only to disrupt. they don't want to engage only to see silence. conference that is, the labour party for you . party for you. >> the chancellor's announcement comes ahead of his conference speech this afternoon in which he'll announce tougher rules on benefit s jeremy hunt says he'll make it harder for people to claim welfare while they refuse to take active steps to get work. meanwhile as part of plans to get more people employed , to get more people employed, he'll also announce a boost to the national which the national living wage, which will up to at least £11 an will go up to at least £11 an hour from april . junior doctors hour from april. junior doctors and consultants in england have started a three day walkout to
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the longest ever period of joint strike action until thursday . at strike action until thursday. at 7 am. they'll deliver what's being described as christmas day levels of staffing in their last joint strike in september led to almost 130,000 appointments being rescheduled . the being rescheduled. the government says the walkout is doing a massive disservice to patient ice. these doctors told us why they've walked until and unless there is a credible pay offer , it will mean that doctors offer, it will mean that doctors offer, it will mean that doctors of all grades, but especially senior doctors , will continue to senior doctors, will continue to leave the country for other places and the nhs will continue to suffer . to suffer. >> we are not planning for the future. there is going to be no staffing in the nhs. there's going to be no nhs future going to be no nhs in the future if don't fight for pay. going to be no nhs in the future if this on't fight for pay. going to be no nhs in the future if this is�*t fight for pay. going to be no nhs in the future if this is really: for pay. going to be no nhs in the future if this is really aor pay. going to be no nhs in the future if this is really a necessarily so this is really a necessarily a fight about individual consultant papers say we're actually fighting for the very future nhs . future of the nhs. >> gb news can reveal that more than 25,000 migrants have crossed the english channel so far. this year. around 350
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migrants in up to eight boats were intercepted by border force vessels and brought ashore to dover harbour this morning. on saturday, 537 people crossed in nine small boats. that's according to official figures released by the home office . released by the home office. water companies want to increase household bills . by £156 a year household bills. by £156 a year by 2030 as part of plans to fund upgrades and prevent 140,000 annual sewage spills. industry regulator ofwat says they will forever scrutinise the scheme to ensure the price hike is justified . it's expected to face justified. it's expected to face a backlash from customers struggling with the cost of living . this is gb news across living. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to mark and . now let's get back to mark and. pip ray. >> thanks very much and welcome back to the live desk . what back to the live desk. what seems to be some taxing time for
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the tory leadership at the party conference in manchester? both rishi sunak and chancellor jeremy having to fend off jeremy hunt having to fend off demands immediate big tax demands for immediate big tax cuts. the loudest calls coming this lunchtime. yes, from former prime minister liz truss and her allies . allies. >> liz truss says the conservatives need to stop taxing and banning and start building and making . but with building and making. but with the chancellor ruling out any further tax cuts, this year. the party conference seems anything but united and well. let's cross to gloria de piero, who is with dr. liam fox, who is the former international trade secretary, and maybe gloria, he can answer that very question . how united that very question. how united is the tory party at the moment ? >> cheers , pip. well, we're >> cheers, pip. well, we're going to get the benefit of your wisdom. three decades as a conservative mp. so, liz truss, she's just finished speaking. government is too big , taxes are government is too big, taxes are too high and we are spending too much. she's right, isn't she? well it's hardly a revelation
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that the tory party conference i mean, the government is too big i >> many of us believe, and spending is too high. but that's the easy bit. so if you want taxes to come down, which which bits of spending do you want to cut you get higher cut or how do you get higher levels of growth and prosperity into the economy? so it's easy to sloganising is the easy part . the policy parts, the more difficult part . and it's got to difficult part. and it's got to be in way that's be done in a way that's responsible. remembering that we are that borrows a lot are a country that borrows a lot of have to maintain of money and we have to maintain the confidence of the international it international markets. is it helpful liz truss to be here helpful for liz truss to be here making these arguments in public or does it fracture a delicate unity ? i think the arguments are unity? i think the arguments are always there. the tory party is perpetually in that discussion about how big the state should be, how high or low taxes ought to be. that's a proper debate to have in a democratic society. it's healthy that we do that, but we need to be focusing, i think, on how we create more wealth in our economy. we can't be in a perpetual discussion
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aboutisit be in a perpetual discussion about is it more taxes for higher spending or lower taxes for less spending . we need also for less spending. we need also to talk about how we create more prosperity in our economy and deal with the elements, particularly for small businesses that could be holding back their growth potential . back their growth potential. >> so you're with jeremy hunt , >> so you're with jeremy hunt, who is speaking to the conference this afternoon . it's conference this afternoon. it's just not possible to contemplate any big income tax cuts. >> well , there are two questions >> well, there are two questions in that. number one is, can we afford to reduce taxes at all? and if we can, where should they be? i think that we will probably see a little more headroom as we go through the autumn and the winter. the reason for that being that as inflation comes down, the amount of government debt interest we have to pay goes down. this year it looks as though we'll spend something like £100 billion on debt . so that's the debt interest. so that's the second biggest government spending after the nhs for which we get nothing at all. know, we get nothing at all. you know, not a soldier, not a nurse, not a doctor, nothing at all. so but
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as that as inflation falls, that number quite quickly. so number falls quite quickly. so at 5% inflation, for example, which was the government halving the target that saves about 50 billion. so there may be some headroom we get to headroom by the time we get to the tax. the spring inheritance tax. >> there seems to be a live debate in your party on inheritance tax. that would be like a big tax cut for the richest people . bakhmut i would richest people. bakhmut i would prefer to see any tax cuts on the wealth creating part of our economy. >> i want to see more small businesses thrive because ultimately they will grow and pay ultimately they will grow and pay the taxes that will enable us to have the spending. and i think that rather than reductions in any form of personal taxation, we should be looking at how we get those small businesses. remember, only 17.5% of the population ocean are in the public sector. in britain, 82.5% are in the private sector. most of those are in small businesses. so that's where jobs are created. that's where wealth is created in the economy. we need to focus on how we grow our wealth as a country, not just how we spend
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it. >> and for those not in work, those who have worked all their lives, the triple lock, is it affordable? is it the right thing to do? >> well, whether it's affordable or not is dependent on how well the economy is performing . of the economy is performing. of course, it looks at different elements . inflation, it's been elements. inflation, it's been very expensive this year because inflation has been high, but then it's also pushed up debt interest. as i say , i think interest. as i say, i think there are there are strong arguments for it in principle , arguments for it in principle, all that those who have no other means of getting income and have worked all their lives are protected. i think that's a strong point of principle. but whether the triple lock is too expensive of is a technical question. but there's no doubt that in principle all those who are on pensions need to be protected and they need to have the standard of living rising, at least as quickly as the earning public. >> and i get the benefit of >> and can i get the benefit of your wisdom shouldn't take your wisdom on shouldn't take long election timing . you've long election timing. you've seen great victories . you've seen great victories. you've
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seen great victories. you've seen great victories. you've seen great tory defeat. if you were advising , seen great tory defeat. if you were advising, i'm sure you speak to rishi sunak all the time, but when should you go? >> when it looks like you're going to win ? going to win? >> i go on. what do you reckon? when going to be? when is that going to be? >> moment >> so i think at the moment it's the opinion quite the public opinion is quite fluid on doorstep right? a fluid on the doorstep right? a lot people who might bit lot of people who might be a bit sullen government are sullen about the government are certainly not attracted keir certainly not attracted to keir starmer party . i starmer and the labour party. i yet don't know what they stand for in any serious policy debate . and i think that if we see inflation fall, if we see the economy picking up in terms of speed, people will be worried about disrupting that and gambling an unknown quantity gambling on an unknown quantity like keir starmer and his labour party. so i think that there is a if you look at the opinion polls, it's not unusual for governments to recover quite polls, it's not unusual for governnas1ts to recover quite polls, it's not unusual for governn as they recover quite polls, it's not unusual for governn as they go :over quite polls, it's not unusual for governn as they go into quite polls, it's not unusual for governn as they go into theirs sharply as they go into their final year. sharply as they go into their final ye.you don't think this is >> and you don't think this is a 1997 type scenario , so you don't 1997 type scenario, so you don't think that you can form a majority tory government though surely ? surely? >> yes, i do. >> yes, i do. >> and i think i think there is
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certainly a pathway victory. certainly a pathway to victory. and enough, was and i funnily enough, i was looking polls other looking at the polls the other night you're looking night and since you're looking for benefit of wisdom . so for the benefit of wisdom. so i was looking at election when was looking at one election when actually on the sunday we had a shock poll that said that we were behind labour for the first time campaign , and that time in the campaign, and that was mrs. thatcher's in was mrs. thatcher's victory in 1979. so i take the polls always with a pinch of salt to say politicians don't look at polls, of profoundly of course, is profoundly dishonest . we all look them. dishonest. we all look at them. but that you can put too but i think that you can put too much emphasis polls. and much emphasis on polls. and remember, in 1992, we were all expecting that there would be a labour victory according to the polls. remember sitting in polls. and i remember sitting in the the first the car as the first results came thinking, we're going to win. >> yeah. final question and this is not about, well, it is about politics, but actually it's about getting the benefit of your thoughts. as a former gp, we've got the nhs walkout today. we've got constant strikes, people saying that they are fighting for the future of the nhs . nhs. >> well, they're not fighting for the future of the nhs, they're fighting for their salaries and lots of doctors are
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not on strike when the railways go on strike. we're always very careful it's the rmt careful to say it's the rmt or it's aslef whatever. is it's aslef or whatever. this is the that are on strike. a the bma that are on strike. a very large number of doctors are not taking part in this action. the real heroes of the nhs are not the ones on the picket lines . on the wards and . it's the ones on the wards and the are covering the doctors who are covering their colleagues. their absent colleagues. i actually doctors actually think that for doctors particularly strikejunior particularly to strike junior doctors and consultants the doctors and consultants at the same unethical i >> always good to talk to you, liam fox, thank you for being with us on gb news pip mark. that's the view from a tory grandee, sir. >> philologist as well. it seems now perhaps an extra string to the bow there in terms of looking at those polls and what might happen. but uh, interesting chat. thank you very much, gloria, back to you. of course, throughout the afternoon because speech from because we've got a speech from someone who's preparing that someone who's preparing for that by wearing one of these. is this might need it this afternoon , might need it this afternoon, jeremy hunt with his hard hat on because he's been visit ing
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well, a building site a little earlier . but of course the earlier. but of course the message perhaps not lost on some observers there in manchester. >> liz truss not long ago gave a speech at a fringe event. she wasn't on the main stage like the chancellor will be at 2:00. she was speaking at a fringe event and she did get quite a few cheers as she used her speech to call for a cut in corporation tax. she wants corporation tax. she wants corporation tax. she wants corporation tax cut to some 19% to attract and keep business in the uk. now, let's not forget liz truss, her premiership . it liz truss, her premiership. it was quite short to say the least. it was a total of 49 days, but there were a lot of people that wanted to hear her in the last half hour or so. and i wonder mark, if jeremy hunt was listening. well indeed, although he may say he was rather busy with his hard hat on. >> on. >> but let's just reflect that , >> but let's just reflect that, of course, liz truss saying let's stop taxing, reflecting that if we had the same growth in the economy as the us, each
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britain would be £9,000 better off. however our jeremy hunt was speaking to many journalists this morning and he was indicating that it's not possible to do any substantial tax cuts in the immediate term because of the battle against inflation and because our debt interest payments are so high. why is that? well of course, the gilt markets reacted to a certain mini—budget from liz truss and kwasi kwarteng . so truss and kwasi kwarteng. so maybe there's a reflection on that. but certainly he says he does not rule out tax cuts next yean does not rule out tax cuts next year. but we have to be prepared to take difficult decisions, he says, to make that happen. we're also expected in his speech at two £0.30, an indication that the national living wage will be raised to £11 an hour from next april . but with that raised to £11 an hour from next april. but with that hand in hand, making it harder for people to claim welfare when refused to take active steps to get back to work. >> well , let's get some analysis >> well, let's get some analysis from our political editor,
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christopher hope . christopher, christopher hope. christopher, like i just said to mark a few moments ago, would jeremy hunt have been listening to liz truss's speech or just focusing on his ? on his? >> well, he's focusing on his he's got to, hasn't he? and he's he's got to, hasn't he? and he's he can't range as widely as liz truss able to do as a former prime minister with her own agenda of course which many would say brought her government down just over a year ago. but no question he'll be looking at that. tell he wants that. he does tell us he wants to cut taxes. he's in charge , to cut taxes. he's in charge, though, of the strings and though, of the purse strings and he unfil he can't afford to do that until inflation under control. and inflation is under control. and that's the briefing here is that's why the briefing here is about cuts. in march next about tax cuts. in march next yean about tax cuts. in march next year, the budget and not in the autumn statement in november . autumn statement in november. >> what do we make of liz truss's intervention? because there is an unwritten convention, isn't there, as a former prime minister you step back into the shadows, you keep your counsel. theresa may did that for a while, but here is liz truss going in both barrels
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on a central question of tax and growth in the economy . growth in the economy. >> that's right. there are no rules though, mark. i mean, this is what you're expected to do as a former prime minister, but of course not everyone follows those liz those rules, not least liz truss. basically making truss. she is basically making life difficult for the chancellor, no question that all the bulletins you'll see on gb news tonight will probably compare and contrast the more muted supporting and applause for jeremy hunt in the chamber when speaks at 2:00 today when he speaks at 2:00 today with the with the cheering and the applause for liz truss the wild applause for liz truss just over the road from where i'm sitting here at the midland hotel that response there hotel that that response there the got saying the cheering that she got saying there at the end i thought fascinating here let stop taxing and things let's build and banning things let's build things and make things. let's make britain grow again. i mean, thatis make britain grow again. i mean, that is absolute rhetoric which the grass roots want to hear more of. many voters may want to hear more of. and it's not really the same way. that's not what jeremy hunt can say . what jeremy hunt can say. >> because what's interesting is that she is still very popular
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among grassroots activists because they voted for her. they didn't vote for rishi sunak as prime minister but that's right, because this time last year , liz because this time last year, liz truss was prime minister and i was here when i chaired a fringe meeting. >> suella braverman talked about a coup , literally a coup against a coup, literally a coup against liz truss and no one believed her. well, should. she had gone within weeks a coup of within three weeks and a coup of sorts took place against her by her unhappy her own mps who were unhappy with pace of the reforms and with the pace of the reforms and changes unveiled in changes that she unveiled in that which was that mini—budget, which was never meant a budget. and never meant to be a budget. and that's i think is the that's why i think this is the first time grass roots have first time the grass roots have got one place and got back into one place and they're now looking at rishi sunak this sunak wondering who is this person? voted for by person? he wasn't voted for by the grass roots. boris johnson was forced out by mps, so was liz truss. there was a suspicion here between the grass roots and mps fissure mps and that that fissure between two groups has not between those two groups has not been yet. hope been healed yet. the hope for the the number 10 is that the for the number 10 is that they get past this seed they can get past this seed more, more like with the net zero changes we saw last week. find ways to appeal to the grass roots to make them bring them
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back side. back on side. >> learning, chris, >> we're just learning, chris, that the anti—brexit protester steve bray has been as press association said, forcibly ejected from a fringe event there. the right wing bruges group at the friends meeting house. we've also got reports of thousands of protesters out on the streets in manchester at the conference. give us an indication about how febrile the atmosphere is there . atmosphere is there. >> it's not as bad as previous years, mark, because the protesters are being kept some way away from where we are. and so you can actually get into the conference area unmolested. un shouted out. but it is quite tricky. i was called some rude words last night because someone thought i was a tory. i'm not a tory. i'm a political reporter for gb news. but i let it pass. but i think yeah, i think there's a bit of tension there always is in manchester, it seems. the police seems. i think the police are being bit this year being a bit tougher this year than in previous than they have been in previous years with protesters. >> that'll you to >> that'll teach you to wear a spotted tie like that. of course. big might. course. a big, big might. >> you need a hard hat
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>> you might need a hard hat like jeremy hunt. >> the moment , like jeremy hunt. >> the moment, thank >> chris, for the moment, thank you for that. back to you. of course, the course, throughout the afternoon, jeremy course, throughout the aftern do |, jeremy course, throughout the aftern do at jeremy course, throughout the aftern do at 230 jeremy course, throughout the aftern do at 230 now jeremy course, throughout the aftern do at 230 now staying in hunt, do at 230 now staying in manchester because we've been featuring the picket line there. junior doctors and consultants with their longest combined strike. so far. we'll be hearing how some patients are now taking the care into their own homes. that coming up for you in
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . welcome
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gb news radio. welcome back to the live desk. >> let's update you on the latest industrial strife with junior doctors and consultants joining forces on the picket lines across the country today. and what's the longest combined strike so far in their long running dispute with the government over pay? >> week , nearly 27,000 >> last week, nearly 27,000 staff were absent from work due to industrial action. and since strikes began, nhs england data shows that the total number of acute appointments rescheduled exceeded 1 million and of course more will follow as a result of these three days of action. >> well, some of those patients now to get care in their now opting to get care in their own homes . as our national own homes. as our national reporter, theo chikomba has been finding in blackburn . finding out in blackburn. >> well , if you go to the >> well, if you go to the hospital , there's no there's no hospital, there's no there's no guarantee you're going to be treated within, say , eight hours treated within, say, eight hours time. now it's only me since
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february 2022. >> neil has been receiving care from his home, which he describes as a godsend. now he avoids long waits and says it puts less pressure on his family to take him to the hospital for routine checks and treatment . routine checks and treatment. >> at the change. my dressing on may 4th, every every tuesday, which is fantastic . you know, which is fantastic. you know, instead of having to trail up to royal blackburn or maybe even go as far as burnley . so that's as far as burnley. so that's great to have a nurse coming to a change. change me bandage and me and my own home. >> now as a patient of the royal blackburn hospital, clinical home care was set up for him to treat his severe eczema . treat his severe eczema. >> it does make a massive difference, particularly to people like neil because he's it's very difficult for him to mobilise outside of his home and does impact on his family as well. but you know, so for
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people to have to get to the hospital each time they need a treatment is quite a big strain on them really, together with the condition that they're already facing across the country, junior doctors will be taking strike for action the seventh time and it will be the second joint walkout for junior doctors and consultants as consultants pay has been falling , more and more consultants are choosing to leave the nhs, leave the uk and go and work in other countries where they are paid fairly and their terms and their conditions of working are better because they haven't got such a staffing crisis in the uk. >> we're left with an nhs that has a workforce crisis . because has a workforce crisis. because of this government's policies . of this government's policies. that means that we never have enough doctors and those that are working here are trying to cover the work for the doctors that aren't there . that aren't there. >> as for neil, he says the two hour appointments he gets at his home are invaluable at a time when nhs services and staff say they are feeling the pressure.
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theo chikomba gb news blackburn let's speak to gb news. >> his national reporterjack >> his national reporter jack carson, who joins us from the manchester royal infirmary. jack, it's a case here we go again. we'll still be here in this same deadlock in a year's time . that's what it feels like time. that's what it feels like for people at the moment. i well, certainly and as that data comes out today, which says that over a million appointments have now had to be rescheduled since december, when, of course all these nhs strikes started, patients across the country, some of them are having to have appointments or operations scheduled not once, twice, scheduled not once, not twice, but possibly three times in some cases. >> so they're certainly feeling the of this industrial the brunt of this industrial action. course , in terms action. and of course, in terms of where they go from here, well, we don't really know because the government aren't going back to the table. going to come back to the table. it's over 100 days since it's been over 100 days since steve barclay last negotiated negotiate with the british medical . and of medical association. and of course, they say accepted that independent pay review body offer 8.8% on average for junior
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doctors and a 6% rise on average for those more senior consults . for those more senior consults. so that's the offer that the government have put to the bma. it's offer that these it's the offer that these doctors get doctors will automatically get as that independent pay as part of that independent pay review recommendation . but review body recommendation. but of course, they still want more junior up to 35, junior doctors wanting up to 35, they to reflect, junior doctors wanting up to 35, they to reflect , of course, they say, to reflect, of course, on on historic losses of pay rises within flation. but earlier on at the picket line here at the manchester royal infirmary , i spoke to a couple infirmary, i spoke to a couple of doctors about why they've joined line today . joined the picket line today. >> so work as a consultant. >> so i work as a consultant. psychiatry at and can tell you psychiatry at and i can tell you that for the last ten years, i don't think there has been a single period which single period in which my hospital not had to employ hospital has not had to employ some some temporary staff or some some temporary staff or some locum consultants. and that is because not only are we not training enough doctors, we are losing doctors, we are haemorrhaging talent to other places and unless that happens, it means the quality of care can't be preserved. it means that patients can't get the standard of service that they
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rightly expect . and our standard of service that they rightly expect. and our medical schools that are training doctors will be training doctors that will go to other places. the message that we are saying is that we will continue to take the action we need to do until the action we need to do until the government comes with us with a credible offer . with a credible offer. >> i'm prepared to keep striking until we see some negotiated action, and that's the point. the government aren't coming to the table actually that's the table and actually that's disingenuous say it's an disingenuous to say it's an independent because independent review body because it's independent at all. it's not independent at all. they've with it. how it's not independent at all. thejthat with it. how it's not independent at all. thejthat be th it. how can that possibly be independent? don't you know, for me , the problem is that over the me, the problem is that over the past 10 to 15 years, we've seen attrition of our pay. when you take into account inflation, we haven't kept pay parity with other similar professions and perhaps it's not so much maybe about people. stage i'm about people. at my stage i'm a consultant. i'm probably going to be until 60. i'm to be working until i'm 60. i'm 54 that's not too long 54 now, so that's not too long to go. it's really about the to go. but it's really about the next generation having next generation they're having it really tough. you it really, really tough. you know, like me are know, if people like me are dissatisfied and are burnt out
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because working longer because we are working longer and harder fewer staff and harder with fewer staff because they're leaving, we know there is going to be nobody to train the generation of train the next generation of doctors, the generation of doctors, the next generation of doctors. they've got young families. afford families. they can't afford their mortgages. they're getting poached overseas. poached in head—hunter overseas. we all the time . and we see this all the time. and the medical that are the medical students that are coming they're coming coming through, they're coming to of graduation. and to the point of graduation. and then them making then many of them are making a decision to leave medicine. so there's of attrition at there's a lot of attrition at that and i've got medical that point. and i've got medical students after who students who i look after who are in the middle of are actually in the middle of their studies, are looking their studies, who are looking at financially their studies, who are looking at now financially their studies, who are looking at now making financially their studies, who are looking at now making decisionally their studies, who are looking at now making decision about and now making a decision about whether carry whether they're going to carry on or not. on with their studies or not. so we planning the we are not planning for the future there going be no future. there is going to be no staffing the there's staffing in the nhs. there's going nhs future going to be no nhs in the future if we don't fight for our pay. >> jack, of course you're >> well, jack, of course you're outside in outside that major hospital in manchester, not far from the conference, of course, where we heard doctor liam fox speaking to gloria little earlier. former gp saying it's not doctors who are on strike, it's the bma . and are on strike, it's the bma. and that, i guess, gives an indication about how far the gulf is between the two sides .
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gulf is between the two sides. >> yeah, it does feel like these strikes are becoming ever increasingly political rather than necessarily on some of the issues that are going on maybe inside the nhs that the bma have obviously previously campaign on. a wes streeting on. i mean, in a wes streeting interview gave interview of course that he gave to a couple of to gb news just a couple of weeks he said that it could weeks ago, he said that it could be up to year five of a labour government that they actually be up to year five of a labour gov able ent that they actually be up to year five of a labour gov able tot that they actually be up to year five of a labour gov able to restore1ey actually be up to year five of a labour gov able to restore the actually be up to year five of a labour gov able to restore the juniory are able to restore the junior doctors that 35% pay increase doctors to that 35% pay increase that even with a that they want. so even with a labour government it doesn't necessarily look like these junior would of necessarily look like these junidemands would of necessarily look like these junidemands wouthey're of necessarily look like these junidemands wouthey're asking' the demands that they're asking for terms the bma's for. but in terms of the bma's position, their chairman, professor banfield, has professor phil banfield, has said that doctors aren't the problem . he says they want problem. he says they don't want to on strike. they just want to be on strike. they just want to be on strike. they just want to by the to be recognised by the government as the highly skilled practitioners. government as the highly skilled practiti(we 's. government as the highly skilled practiti(we do know that public course, we do know that public support still remains with the doctors of course these doctors as of course these strikes continue. jack outside manchester royal infirmary, thanks very much for updating us there. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, in the next half hour, the chancellor, jeremy hunt ,
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the chancellor, jeremy hunt, will be giving his keynote speech at the tory party conference in manchester. we will be bringing you that here on gb news. first, here's your headunes on gb news. first, here's your headlines with ray addison . headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, pip. it's 1.31. headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, pip. it's1.31. i'm ray addison in the newsroom. our top story , donald trump is due top story, donald trump is due top story, donald trump is due to arrive at a court in new york where he is due to stand trial in a civil fraud case. now we can see pictures coming to us live from manhattan. now the former us president is accused of inflating the value of his assets by billions of dollars to secure better loan and insurance terms . it comes a week after the terms. it comes a week after the judge found that mr trump was liable for fraud and will largely concern the penalties that he must now face. the prosecutor is seeking . $250 prosecutor is seeking. $250 million in fines and a permanent ban against trump from running businesses in new york and lots of property oysters there to
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greet him and receive him. as he arrives, we'll have more on that as we get it . well, liz truss as we get it. well, liz truss has called on the chancellor to cut corporate tax back to 19% in his next autumn statement . his next autumn statement. speaking at a fringe rally, the former prime minister urged the tory leadership to axe the tax cut bills and build homes. ms truss said that businesses are now choosing not to locate in the uk and they shouldn't be treated like a cash cow to be milked . milked. >> we need to unleash business across britain. we need people to want to invest in our country. we need businesses to be able to expand, to grow and to create new jobs, to create new ideas . that's why i'm new ideas. that's why i'm calling upon the chancellor at the autumn statement to put corporation tax back . down to corporation tax back. down to 19. and frankly, if we can get it lower, the better for. >> well, liz truss , his comments >> well, liz truss, his comments come just hours after the government said no substantial
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tax cuts are possible. this yean tax cuts are possible. this year. speaking to gb news, jeremy hunt ruled out any reductions in income or inheritance tax as junior doctors and consultants in england have started a three day walkout until thursday at 7 am. they'll deliver what's being described as christmas day levels of staffing their last joint strike in september led to almost 130,000 appointments being rescheduled . and, well, being rescheduled. and, well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .
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this evening. gb news is the people's . channel people's. channel >> welcome back to the live desk. we had a certain liz truss, former prime minister, of course, speaking at a fringe event in manchester for about half an hour ago . and as part of half an hour ago. and as part of her stall being set out, she said we need to axe the tax cut the bills and build the homes. well, quite a few of them talking about incentivising local areas to build 500 new thousand new homes each year. let's get the views now. rachel mclean, who is the minister for housing and planning, can join us there in manchester. that's a tall order, isn't it? 500,000 is pie in the sky, isn't it? >> yeah. hi. well, thanks for having me on. >> obviously i've been in a huge number of fringe events talking
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about how we can build the homes, country needs. and homes, the country needs. and where i do agree with liz is we need build more houses than where i do agree with liz is we neecurrentlyd more houses than where i do agree with liz is we neecurrently are. ire houses than where i do agree with liz is we neecurrently are. butouses than where i do agree with liz is we nee currently are. but we es than where i do agree with liz is we neecurrently are. but we havein we currently are. but we have a number of pieces of work going on to address that. and i'm confident will able confident that we will be able to do a lot better against our housing targets when we've made those changes. we have to take these decisions . they these long term decisions. they won't with everybody won't be popular with everybody , but that's we have to , but that's how we have to think needed for think about what's needed for the country's future. >> thing that liz >> rachel one thing that liz truss was suggesting was that environmental red tape could be torn up to allow all these extra new homes. is that something that you support ? it it depends that you support? it it depends what you mean. >> some of it does need to be torn up. and we've seen that with area of nutrient with this area of nutrient neutrality . those are a set of neutrality. those are a set of defective eu laws that we've inherited. we've now left the eu. we don't need to stick to their way of looking at this. we brought fonnard some proposals to actually remove those laws to enable us to build 100,000 homes
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that actually have planning permission. but unfortunately the labour party voted all that down in the lords, which just goes to show that despite everything about everything that they say about being side of the being on the side of the builders, blockers, it's builders, not the blockers, it's absolutely nonsense absolutely a load of nonsense and they just flip flopped and changed their minds. do. changed their minds. but we do. we absolutely address we do absolutely need to address some of these issues. >> yeah. part the whole >> yeah. now part of the whole picture on infrastructure is transport. as you all know, there has been huge conjecture about the future of hs2 to get to manchester. for itv news reporting, the decision has been taken that it will be shelved and that rishi sunak basically says that the billions will go to other transport sections there in the north. what would that do for levelling up? >> well, clearly itv news knows more than i do. as far as i'm aware , uh, no decision has been aware, uh, no decision has been made . but i think aware, uh, no decision has been made. but i think the point is the chancellor and the prime minister are right to look at these long term decisions. we have spent billions of pounds on
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hs2. yes there are very strong arguments for doing it. and as a west midlands mp, i know the importance of it to the local economy. but at the same time there are huge demands on the pubuc there are huge demands on the public finances and taxpayers money and infrastructure and transport infrastructure is needed all across the country. look, i'm not really close enough to come up with a definitive answer, especially not very short segment, but not in a very short segment, but rachel, do. i do rachel, you know, i do. i do think it's important to look at all this and, you know, see all of this and, you know, see what the chancellor and the prime minister are coming fonnard prime minister are coming forv rachel, say you're not >> rachel, you say you're not you're not close enough to it, but think it was but do you not think it was a little fishy that the little bit fishy that the transport secretary mark harper, did hs2 once in his did not mention hs2 once in his speech ? well as i say, i haven't speech? well as i say, i haven't actually been able to attend any of these speeches because i've literally been in about. okay. he didn't mention i'm telling you, rachel, he did not mention it once. he didn't mention it. so is that not a little bit of a clue what's going on here? >> well, you you might be
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speculating about that. but as i said, look , i'd be very said, look, i'd be very interested to see what the decision is. it's not a decision for me . but ultimately, decision is. it's not a decision for me. but ultimately, i decision is. it's not a decision for me . but ultimately, i agree for me. but ultimately, i agree with the principle that if we're spending billions of pounds of pubuc spending billions of pounds of public money, of taxpayer money, we do need to look carefully at where it's being spent. but what i don't agree with actually, is the sort of criticism that this is a sort of attack on levelling up, because at the same time, just this week, you've seen £1 billion worth investment billion worth of investment going towns all across the going into towns all across the country. you've seen devolution freeports investment zones. we have a very ambitious programme of levelling up and we need to obviously deliver that so people can feel the difference. it's not just all about hs2, even though that is important. >> okay. what we do know is that jeremy hunt will be giving this keynote speech fairly shortly . keynote speech fairly shortly. he has been telling reporters . he has been telling reporters. that they're looking into hs2 to find out why it's so expensive and why it's faced so many issues. the problem the
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issues. now. the problem is the tory had 13 years tory government's had 13 years to do that. how have you let it get badly out of control ? i get so badly out of control? i think that is the right question to be asking about the planning system . system. >> one of my areas where i am the minister responsible is for planning and i know there are a number of issues in the planning system . and when you say why system. and when you say why hasn't it been fixed in this particular time, a lot of a lot of factors have have fed into this. we've had the pandemic. we've had war in ukraine. we've had these existential pressures on our supply chain . had these existential pressures on our supply chain. but actually we did start a few years ago looking at the planning system, starting to take those long term strategic decisions , looking at the decisions, looking at the infrastructure as a whole . some infrastructure as a whole. some of those are going to start feeding through soon, feeding through very soon, actually. are taking actually. so we are taking action across a number of areas. and as i said, there won't be popular for everybody, but we have think planning have to think about planning as an project and we an infrastructure project and we and do need to make those and we do need to make those changes at it. changes so we get better at it. >> there are key questions,
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>> but there are key questions, aren't there? you were you aren't there? you know, were you sold by developers, by the sold a pup by developers, by the rail planners, by the engineers or or is it that basically it was a decision to get it done at whatever cost? and, you know , whatever cost? and, you know, pay whatever cost? and, you know, pay the bill when it's all done i >> -- >> so -- >>so| >> so i think that's looked that is a huge question . and the hs2 is a huge question. and the hs2 was started way before i even thought about going into politics, let alone became an mp. so you're asking questions . mp. so you're asking questions. i think that sort of stem back into the last government and i know that lots of ministers have looked at this and i'm sure that there are those those questions that asking are right that you're asking are the right questions fundamental that you're asking are the right questions as fundamental that you're asking are the right questions as in fundamental that you're asking are the right questions as in how fundamental that you're asking are the right questions as in how do damental that you're asking are the right questions as in how do we 1ental that you're asking are the right questions as in how do we get al questions, as in how do we get in this position where we have not been able to deliver this huge infrastructure project? we need we need to look at where we have got right. got it got it right. we have got it right areas. we have right in some areas. we have been at been quite successful at delivering infrastructure in some areas of some other areas in terms of transport some other things transport and some other things and energy projects and some of our energy projects in particular. and some of those net projects. need to net zero projects. we need to learn from that and make net zero projects. we need to learrthat from that and make net zero projects. we need to learrthat we from that and make net zero projects. we need to learrthat we don't that and make net zero projects. we need to learrthat we don't makeind make net zero projects. we need to
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learrthat we don't make these ake sure that we don't make these mistakes. embarking on mistakes. if we are embarking on these projects and actually these big projects and actually in our department, we are looking fundamentally at looking quite fundamentally at the enable us the planning system to enable us not only to deliver the housing that people need in local areas, but also of big but also some of these big strategic projects , because we strategic projects, because we need that national need to do that in the national interest first. >> can i ask one last >> can i ask you one last question, rachel? you travel question, rachel? did you travel by to get to the conference? >> i didn't. i drove because i need to stay here until wednesday to hear the prime minister and there are no trains. so unfortunately i had to drive. so that was very disappointing because normally i would have the train . would have got the train. >> mclean, thank >> okay, rachel mclean, thank you for joining >> okay, rachel mclean, thank you forjoining us you very much for joining us there conference in there at conference in manchester. so that manchester. thank you so that speech from the chancellor jeremy hunt, is just some 15 minutes away and we will bring it you here on gb news. should we finish with a bit of cap doffing to the ryder cup team after that dramatic final day against the us? aiden is with us and when i say cap doffing, it's and when i say cap doffing, it's a bit of a sort of political
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issue as much as sport. what on earth has been going on in rome? well away from the fainnays? >> well, it was reported on saturday, i think it was by a reporter that one of the players, patrick cantlay , quite players, patrick cantlay, quite a key player in the team usa side , had refused to wear a cap side, had refused to wear a cap because angry that ryder because he was angry that ryder cup weren't being paid. because he was angry that ryder cup ryder ren't being paid. because he was angry that ryder cup ryder cup being paid. because he was angry that ryder cup ryder cup playersyaid. because he was angry that ryder cup ryder cup players , id. >> now, ryder cup players, players have never been never been paid. >> a bit unlikely >> so it seems a bit unlikely that that would happen. >> so it seems a bit unlikely tha having'ould happen. >> so it seems a bit unlikely tha having said happen. >> so it seems a bit unlikely tha having said that, en. have >> having said that, we have seen before in the past seen players before in the past not really keen ryder not really be keen on ryder cup stuff stuff. not really be keen on ryder cup stuff is stuff. not really be keen on ryder cup stuffis very stuff. not really be keen on ryder cup stuffis very much stuff. not really be keen on ryder cup stuffis very much a stuff. not really be keen on ryder cup stuffis very much a lonely, 'f. golf is very much a lonely, solitary, isolated existence. but yeah, he gets onto the course and he takes his shot. and then the i think it was three cheers for his bank account or something like that. that was what the european crowd was was raucous was seeing and it was a raucous crowd. that's why crowd. it really was. that's why the generally wins the home team generally wins these he takes these events. and so he takes his shot, he sinks a 43 footer, and then rory mcilroy steps up to try and match it, to try and edge caddie, john edge ahead. and his caddie, john lacava, across walks lacava, walks across his walks across angered across his path. and it angered rory that key rory mcilroy. that was the key thing said on this thing here. and i said on this show or sorry, not show yesterday or sorry, not this but about 24 hours this show, but about 24 hours
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ago, that tip the ago, i said that could tip the direction usa. i got direction towards the usa. i got that because rory mcilroy that wrong because rory mcilroy made that made clear aftennards that that round the car park the round the car park with the caddy and with cantlay himself fired him up , caddy and with cantlay himself fired him up, riled him up. he went on to get four points, and he as much anybody he did as much as anybody else to on in to regain the is going on in this game. this genteel game. >> years ago in >> we saw it two years ago in the states all this bad behaviour bad feeling and behaviour and bad feeling and the getting riled up. the crowd getting riled up. >> i mean, it's not new, it's not a new new thing. i mean we think back to 1999, the late payne stewart. he died payne stewart. in fact, he died in a accident some just in a accident some months just shortly the plane crash. shortly after the plane crash. it yeah, indeed, was very it was yeah, indeed, it was very . was it was yeah, indeed, it was very , was one of , very sad. but he was one of the that day. the protagonists that day. tiger woods, again, woods, kind of again, we mentioned woods. mentioned tiger woods. he was one ones. didn't go one of those ones. he didn't go in for all this adversarial stuff within within sport. stuff within within the sport. and kind liked stuff within within the sport. an keep kind liked stuff within within the sport. an keep himself kind liked stuff within within the sport. an keep himself to kind liked stuff within within the sport. an keep himself to himself.iked stuff within within the sport. an keep himself to himself. but to keep himself to himself. but no, new thing growing no, it's not a new thing growing on course. i'm sure on the golf course. i'm sure lots of members around the country would would would pay testimony great victory for >> another great victory for luke donald. exactly. luke donald. yeah, exactly. i mean, likely to stay as mean, is he likely to stay on as seems of i think seems to be a lot of i think i think he would. >> he was interesting >> i mean, he was interesting because i think when i doing because i think when i was doing a golf, maybe
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a little bit of golf, maybe about 12, he was about 2010, 11, 12, he was imperious at the top of the order merit. he was one order of merit. but he was one of players, a bit like lee of those players, a bit like lee westwood, was westwood, his compatriot. he was the number never the world number one, but never actually won major. i wonder actually won a major. i wonder whether ryder he whether the ryder cup and he was very successful with very successful as a player with ryder well. wonder ryder cup as well. i wonder if the just allows him to the ryder cup just allows him to or a different dynamic. it's a different populate different dynamic and populate his more. his trophy cabinet a bit more. we plenty of we all know he's made plenty of plenty money, but i could see plenty of money, but i could see him he's him staying here. i mean, he's been mean, don't been lauded. i mean, don't forget, this has to be context here years in here as well. two years ago in whistling europe whistling straits, europe were absolutely obliterated by team usa, to they could usa, team usa to me, they could have players in have had a couple of players in who well, but they who were playing well, but they decided include decided not to. not to include them. you at the them. but if you look at the ashes in the summer, ashes as well, in the summer, same years ago, same thing, two years ago, obliterated , it's obliterated by australia, it's difficult things around obliterated by australia, it's difacult things around obliterated by australia, it's difa relative things around obliterated by australia, it's difa relative shortings around obliterated by australia, it's difa relative short period ound in a relative short period of time. home advantage time. but the home advantage makes that's makes a big difference. that's 30 that usa have makes a big difference. that's 30 to that usa have makes a big difference. that's 30 to win that usa have makes a big difference. that's 30 to win in:hat usa have makes a big difference. that's 30 to win in europe. usa have makes a big difference. that's 30 to win in europe. yeah,. have failed to win in europe. yeah, but certainly cool, calm but certainly he's cool, calm and at the head of and collected at the head of that isn't he. that team isn't he. >> 2—2 maybe and who >> so 2—2 years maybe and who knows what will happen next time round. var which we thought was going to answer all problems and here we are back at square one.
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what on earth is going on with square one? >> i mean, i said to someone in i was having a phone call with somebody morning and somebody this morning and they said to me, var is no different in to how it in the in year five to how it is in the first months its first three months of its inception 2019. and this inception back in 2019. and this wasn't hit upon wasn't something we hit upon quickly let's quickly and decided let's implement week. implement it next week. it was discussed there's discussed for years. there's no new to new technology. i've been to var, to stockley park, var, i've been to stockley park, i've to use the i've been shown how to use the equipment. there's not new equipment. there's not new equipment excuse me. it's just video that we video and editing stuff that we could have done 50 odd years ago. depends on human error. ago. it depends on human error. sorry on human interpretation, getting sorry on human interpretation, getionj sorry on human interpretation, getion saturday transferred. sorry on human interpretation, g(huge saturday transferred. sorry on human interpretation, g(huge mistake transferred. sorry on human interpretation, g(huge mistake from transferred. sorry on human interpretation, g(huge mistake from from erred. a huge mistake from from the pitch, from the field play to pitch, from the field of play to the var hub a few miles away overin the var hub a few miles away over in over in park over in over in stockley park and error made. we and still the error was made. we need realistic our need to be realistic in our expectations. we have to understand that when human beings you're beings are in charge, you're going mistakes. of going to get mistakes. and of course, down tonight, course, down england tonight, it's fulham game. >> should be dedicated >> should there be a dedicated panel of var specialists? that's what's being suggested now? >> well, possibly. i mean, we saw it in the world cup. there was a panel, there's more. was a panel, but there's more. i sometimes more sometimes think there's more people these people in there because in these hubs you're talking three people. people in people. you've put ten people in
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there. scope disagreement. >> need referee >> don't you need a referee who's been in the games to give it always it's not it context? it's always it's not just the sort of picture that you're you get that already. >> i'll you what like >> i'll tell you what i'd like to thousands of to see all those thousands of kids out of kids who who are emptied out of academies every summer by football , chewed up and football clubs, chewed up and spat rather them spat out. i'd rather see them being pathway to stay in being given a pathway to stay in football his football by retraining his referees. people played referees. people who've played the had the game, people who've had impacts, they've suffered injuries . they've been in the injuries. they've been in the maelstrom attacking and maelstrom of attacking and defending and they don't understand because the current referees don't have the same mindset . mindset. >> you think? don't think. >> you think? i don't think. >> you think? i don't think. >> the game >> you think? i don't think. >> makes the game >> you think? i don't think. >> makes a the game >> you think? i don't think. >> makes a big:he game >> you think? i don't think. >> makes a big difference makes makes a big difference in those you just have those tackles. you just have a little understanding of little bit more understanding of the nuances the game. the nuances around the game. >> the liverpool tottenham >> could the liverpool tottenham match be replayed light of match be replayed in light of this? >> ? love $- this? >> love the world >> i mean, i'd love the world cup quarterfinal from 1986 when maradona the ball into maradona handled the ball into the past. peter shaw love the past. peter shaw i'd love that replayed, but you that to be replayed, but you can't realms can't get into the realms of that. to happen? pip that. what needs to happen? pip and it wasn't and i can't believe it wasn't considered before where it's clear and obvious and clear clear and obvious and it's clear as been as day that there's been a mistake there needs to be mistake made. there needs to be a with protocol where a 32nd break with protocol where someone is someone says, listen, this is going out badly
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going to play out really badly tomorrow. you've made it. we've made a really serious mistake here. also the timing here. and also it was the timing of goal. 34 minutes. of the goal. 34 minutes. liverpool taken the liverpool would have taken the lead. top. lead. they could have gone top. normally, lead. they could have gone top. thheilly, lead. they could have gone top. thhe premier league, in the premier league, statistically tend to you're in the premier league, statis likely tend to you're in the premier league, statis likely to tend to you're in the premier league, statis likely to go end to you're in the premier league, statislikely to go on to you're in the premier league, statislikely to go on towin|'re in the premier league, statislikely to go on towin the more likely to go on to win the game. so it was pivotal and liverpool the league liverpool have lost the league twice the four twice out of the last four years. think is one years. i think it is by one point. so that's how point. and so that's how pivotal, crucial pivotal, that's how crucial decisions to you in >> aiden great to have you in again. thanks very much indeed. coming happening coming up, few things happening in we'll be back coming up, few things happening in the we'll be back coming up, few things happening in the tory we'll be back coming up, few things happening in the tory party we'll be back coming up, few things happening in the tory party conference back coming up, few things happening in the tory party conference and: to the tory party conference and jeremy speaking all the jeremy hunt speaking all the latest live . latest live. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news is something a north south something of a north south split with today then with the weather today and then the potential for some pretty heavy parts of central heavy rain over parts of central and eastern england tonight . so and eastern england tonight. so there's of low there's two areas of low pressure . this one moving up pressure. this one moving up from south bringing some from the south is bringing some quite warm air, but it's also bringing of clouds and bringing a lot of clouds and damp and drizzly feel across southwest england, north southwest england, much of north wales light rain and drizzle on and pushing into and off here, pushing into north—west something north—west england to something a bit brighter parts of a bit brighter over parts of eastern england and some good spells of sunshine scotland
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spells of sunshine for scotland and although and northern ireland. although plenty also in plenty of showers also coming in on brisk wind across the on a brisk wind across the highlands the western isles highlands and the western isles . in mid . temperatures here in the mid teens south with a bit teens further south with a bit of brightness, we could easily creep into the 20s, but then later rain is likely to later on the rain is likely to turn heavier over the midlands, particularly the midlands, particularly the east midlands, through lincolnshire through parts of lincolnshire dunng through parts of lincolnshire during evening and during the evening and especially for parts of norfolk. we could catch some thunderstorms could drop a thunderstorms that could drop a lot rain in a short space of lot of rain in a short space of time that all tends to time before that all tends to clear overnight. clear away overnight. temperatures holding up in the south. a night here. south. quite a warm night here. something cooler something a little cooler further still most further north, but still most towns in double towns and cities in double digits onto tuesday. and we still start off with a lot of cloud over east anglia in the south—east a little bit of rain here too, but that here early on, too, but that should clear then . skies should clear away then. skies brighten. most places will see a mixture of sunshine and showers on tuesday, most the on tuesday, with most of the showers northern england showers across northern england and scotland largely dry and scotland and a largely dry afternoon further south, a bit breezy, temperatures in the breezy, but temperatures in the sunshine again the south—east sunshine again in the south—east over 20 degrees
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>> welcome back to the live desk here on gb news with, of course, the tory party conference undennay in manchester and reports from manchester that indeed the hs2 leg from birmingham to manchester has been scrapped . but of course been scrapped. but of course there's been much conjecture in recent weeks. we had two former
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prime ministers, three former chancellors and a former transport secretary, all saying that to scale that scheme back was completely wrong. but we understand the decision has been made with rishi sunak saying that the billions involved should instead be spent on other transport infrastructure in the north of england. >> well, we can talk to our political correspondent, catherine forster, who is at the tory party conference. we understand we will be speaking to her shortly. but let's try and economics editor liam halligan . liam, what are you halligan. liam, what are you heanng halligan. liam, what are you hearing on the ground? is this confirmed the manchester leg of hs2 two is no more. >> i think it's been pretty inevitable that that decision would be made for some months now. of course, it's embarrassing for the conservatives , but on the other conservatives, but on the other hand, you've got lots of activists here who are baying for tax cuts soon. and i've just come from the fringe meeting with liz truss , former prime with liz truss, former prime minister. of course, she was
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joined by three other former cabinet ministers including jacob rees—mogg and pretty patel. and they were basically saying to their chancellor, cut taxes. now if you want to win the election, let's get growth going. we need to grow the pie in order that more wealth can trickle down to ordinary households . it's controversial households. it's controversial that liz truss is here. it's controversial that she held a fringe meeting just an hour before chancellor jeremy hunt is due to stand up a fringe meeting that completely contradicted the chancellor's message . she also chancellor's message. she also disclosed to a packed house. it was standing room only. all the media were there . she disclosed media were there. she disclosed that there are now 60 members on the conservative backbenches in her conservative growth group and that is the same size as the government's working majority . government's working majority. so if all these tory mps refuse to back any legislation after the autumn statement or next spring's budget, that increases
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taxes, and that's what they're saying they're going to do, it's going to be very difficult for the government to get its budget out through the house of commons and then we are in serious and then we are in very serious political territory. >> well, we're already in serious political territory, of course , over bearing in course, over hs2, bearing in mind we had what, two former prime ministers, three former chancellors, a former transport secretary, all saying if this was axed and that was really going to hit the whole question of levelling up and the whole issue of the north of england being brought into that northern powerhouse , as jeremy hunt was powerhouse, as jeremy hunt was earlier saying , that they were earlier saying, that they were looking into why it was so expensive and why faced so expensive and why it faced so many issues . is expensive and why it faced so many issues. is him or many issues. but is it him or rishi sunak that made the decision ? do we think ? decision? do we think? >> i don't think any decision like this would have been made without both of them being on side. jeremy hunt told gb news this morning that he's seen figures which show that high speed rail lines in the uk cost ten times more to build than they do in france , which is of
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they do in france, which is of course, eye—watering hs2 was originally estimated to cost £31 billion when it was first mooted in 2009, and that included the legs from london to birmingham , legs from london to birmingham, birmingham to manchester and also birmingham to leeds. the estimated bill now is upwards of 100 billion. and the problem that i have with this as an economist, as an analyst, is if you just do hs2 from london to birmingham , um, all we've birmingham, um, all we've already got two perfectly good train lines from london to birmingham , um, going out of birmingham, um, going out of euston to new street, of course, and going from marylebone to snow hill on the chiltern line to do another train leg from london to birmingham and to spend tens of billions of pounds on it. spend tens of billions of pounds onit.the spend tens of billions of pounds on it. the cost benefit analysis on it. the cost benefit analysis on that, the return on that taxpayers cash is clearly going to be negative in economic terms. so if we end up only with london to birmingham , um, hs2 is london to birmingham, um, hs2 is going to be, i'm afraid, widely
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seen as a vanity project, as a white elephant. yeah >> but we've got the cost of the ifs saying if you've spent the money on that section, then it makes sense to go further and do the whole kit and caboodle . the whole kit and caboodle. that's true. >> but that's more tens of billions of pounds. mark at a time when the government is already tax sing the economy at already tax sing the economy at a higher rate than we have in 70 years. tax now accounts for approaching 38% of our annual national income interest payments on the government's debt are the second biggest line on the government's balance sheet, second only to the nhs . sheet, second only to the nhs. we're on course to spend £110 billion on debt interest this yean billion on debt interest this year, which is dead money. you don't get any nurses or doctors or schools or hospitals for that , that debt interest and i must say, even though this looks embarrassing to the outside world, to most tory activists ,
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world, to most tory activists, they will be a hoop that that hs2 has been curtailed . it's hs2 has been curtailed. it's never been popular within the party. it was george osborne's original project. then, of course , labour were very course, labour were very supportive of with transport minister andrew adonis. yeah, yeah. a lot of people in the political and media class want hs2, but i'd say certainly among tory activists will be silent cheering going on that this runaway train of a project in terms of costs has finally t been put out to pasture . liam we been put out to pasture. liam we are expecting the chancellor to be speaking any moment now. >> he is just being introduced at the moment. but what do you think is to going be the main content of his speech ? it's content of his speech? it's going to be quite different to what liz truss was calling for, isn't it? which was well, a cut in corporation tax, for example . it's going to be very different to what liz truss just said to a packed room support supported by other former cabinet ministers
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>> and that's the point. liz truss came here in order to put clear blue water between her and her supporters and jeremy hunt and rishi sunak. i don't think for a minute having chaired her fringe meeting and obviously talked to her over many weeks in detail about what she was going to say, i don't think she's looking to become prime minister again, but she is looking to anoint the post sunak tory leader and possibly the next tory prime minister after a labour government if indeed labour government if indeed labour win that next election . labour win that next election. there's a really active debate going on in the conservative party. of course , as much of the party. of course, as much of the media will say it's splits, it's gaffes, it's chaos. a lot of activists will say, actually no, this is democracy, this is our internal party democracy at a time when the public is watching and a lot of the public, it seems, from opinion polls, they also think taxes are too high. jeremy hunt, in contrast, will be stressing going steady as she goes. we are the grown ups. he
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may go as far as outlining the case for lower taxes, saying that he wants lower taxes. but there's almost no way he's going to announce that today because they'll want to keep that tax cut . they want to make it as cut. they want to make it as dramatic as possible when they finally unveil that clear blue water, they want to do that as near to the next election as they possibly can, which probably mean the autumn probably doesn't mean the autumn statement in november. it probably means the budget next spring. >> and just to return to what you were indicating about it, those followers of liz truss and perhaps jake berry as well. i mean, are there indications that people will vote against that autumn statement, the november statement, if they think he's not gone far enough or if indeed inflation starts to tick up again ? again? >> mark, this is the realms of speculation , but politics is all speculation, but politics is all about seeing round corners, isn't it? and it strikes me that now, liz truss has got 60 tory backbenchers in her conservative
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growth group up on the back benches of the house of commons. and given that the government's working majority is around 60 as well , if jeremy hunt comes up well, if jeremy hunt comes up with an autumn statement which puts taxes up as a percentage of gdp , a high share of those gdp, a high share of those conservative growth group mps are committed to not voting for the government's legislation and for a sitting government to not be able to get what we call a confidence and supply arrangement through the house supply, meaning money to not get a money bill through the house is to be able to not be able to govern. that could end up in a no confidence situation for the sunak government. this is speculation. i'm just doing the parliamentary arithmetic and looking ahead . looking ahead. >> gosh, you're setting it all up quite, quite dramatically. liam what we did hear from from jeremy hunt earlier was that the economy has started to turn the corner, but he stresses that
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there are no shortcuts to faster growth and that will be something that he'll be talking about more very shortly indeed . about more very shortly indeed. >> all the parties there talking about keeping taxes where they are or lower taxes . even the are or lower taxes. even the liberal democrats at their party conference last weekend , they conference last weekend, they they got rid of a totemic lib dem policy. it's been their policy for 30 years. we're going to put a penny on income tax to pay for better public services, even sir ed davey, who leads the lib dems , who i know is wedded lib dems, who i know is wedded to that policy , they junked that to that policy, they junked that policy . they shelved that policy policy. they shelved that policy for now because they know out there among ordinary men and women , households and firms, women, households and firms, there's a sense that taxation is too high. so jeremy hunt, rishi sunak, they know where their bread is buttered. they know they deliver lower taxes they need to deliver lower taxes before an election . but i don't before an election. but i don't think they're going to do it now. what they're going to be doing now talking about
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doing now is talking about steady goes, getting steady as she goes, getting inflation down. they'll be saying the best way to lower taxes is lower inflation taxes is to lower inflation because inflation is a tax on savings. inflation erodes purchasing power of hard working households and undermines living standards and they'll be talking about getting interest rates down, returning to, if you like, pre truss world. jeremy hunt has got absolutely no problem blaming the current situation in the party and the country and the party and the country and the economy on his predecessor kwasi kwarteng heng and indeed on liz truss herself, he said to gb news this morning i inherited quite a mess and he was talking directly about liz truss. so you've now got these two factions of the party? absolutely at each other's throats on tax , but for me it's throats on tax, but for me it's not really a philosophic difference. it's a difference of timing and strategy and tactics. unless there's a major economic downturn and a major spike in government spending, a major
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energy crisis, i would expect the conservatives to announce tax cuts before the election. but i wouldn't expect them to do it today . it today. >> we've got the video playing . >> we've got the video playing. we're expecting me on stage imminently . one of the problems imminently. one of the problems he's indicated this morning is that government debt interest are so high and that's why he's not got headroom or wriggle room . jeremy hunt just coming to the stage now, liam , we're just stage now, liam, we're just going to interrupt. he's just waving at the crowd and he's got a thick sheaf of paper there in waving at the crowd and he's got a tihand. eaf of paper there in waving at the crowd and he's got a tihand. let'sf paper there in waving at the crowd and he's got a tihand. let's seeper there in waving at the crowd and he's got a tihand. let's see what ere in waving at the crowd and he's got a tihand. let's see what he'sn his hand. let's see what he's got . got to say. >> good afternoon. the last time ispoke >> good afternoon. the last time i spoke at conference was as foreign secretary five years ago, after that, i thought my time in government was over. so it's great to see the pm getting the over 50 back into meaningful work . i do, however, have some work. i do, however, have some very youthful under 50 in my ministerial team , so thank you,
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ministerial team, so thank you, john, glenn. andrew griffith, vicky atkins, gareth davies . vicky atkins, gareth davies. jojo pen. mark fletcher. paul howell , anthony mangle jojo pen. mark fletcher. paul howell, anthony mangle and andrew stevenson for their brilliant work . and it's brilliant work. and it's great to be in manchester where since 2010 this great region has seen unemployment halve nearly 200,000 more jobs and six new tech unicorns . as labour mayors tech unicorns. as labour mayors talk up the problems. but it's conservative wives who chalk up the jobs . now conservative wives who chalk up the jobs. now our conservative wives who chalk up the jobs . now our friend conservative wives who chalk up the jobs. now our friend is at the jobs. now our friend is at the for office national statistics have recently changed their mind about the size of the british economy . they had been british economy. they had been saying we were the worst
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performing large european economy since the pandemic , but economy since the pandemic, but we weren't the worst . we were we weren't the worst. we were one of the best. since the pandemic. we've recovered better than france or germany. we've grown faster than both of them since we left the single market. and since 2010, we've grown faster than france, germany , faster than france, germany, italy, spain, austria , finland, italy, spain, austria, finland, the netherlands and japan . so to the netherlands and japan. soto all the pessimists and declinists who've been talking us down, we say this don't bet against britain. it's been tried before and it never works . it's before and it never works. it's conference. it's nice to set the record straight, but rishi sunak and i care more about the future than the past. and our plan is very simple . we're going to make very simple. we're going to make britain a global leader in the
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industries of the future. the world's next silicon valley and it's already happening. last yean it's already happening. last year, we became only the third trillion dollar tech economy in the world, and our tech sector is now double the size of germany's and three times france . british discovered vaccines and treatments saved 7 million lives across the world in the pandemic, more than from any other country. we do more offshore wind than anywhere in europe . we've got three huge europe. we've got three huge electric car factories being built where europe's biggest film and tv production centre and next time i want to see barbie wearing a union jack because that too was filmed in britain . my mansion house britain. my mansion house reforms are part of that because they'll help fast growing companies. source billions of pounds of extra capital while we don't just want them to start
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here, we want them to stay here because as we become a science superpower, there's nowhere better to be. all this happens not from quick fixes , but from not from quick fixes, but from long term decisions, which is what you get with rishi sunak . what you get with rishi sunak. we conservatives know if you get the economy right, everything else comes right too. so right now we are focussed on bringing down inflation. nothing hurts families more when it comes to the weekly shop heating bills or pump prices , which is why the pump prices, which is why the prime minister's pledged to halve it. and we're getting there. it was 11. it's now down by 40. the plan is working and now we must see it through, just as margaret thatcher did many years ago , conference when we years ago, conference when we halve inflation, that's not a 1% income tax cut . it's a 5% boost
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income tax cut. it's a 5% boost to incomes compared to if it stayed the same . but just as we stayed the same. but just as we succeeding, what's labour planning? some £28 billion a year of new borrowing. the institute for fiscal studies say borrowing on that scale risks fuelling inflation and keeping interest rates higher . labour interest rates higher. labour can change the fiscal rules. they can dress it up as responsible oil, but if they increase borrowing , they increase borrowing, they increase borrowing, they increase debt. and that means higher taxes, higher mortgages and higher inflation for families . that's not an economic families. that's not an economic policy . it's an economic policy. it's an economic illusion . and it illusion. and it underlines the elemental choice in british politics. the choice behind all other choices sound money under the conservatives or run out of money under labour. never again
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conference, never again . concert conference, never again. concert natives will always protect pubuc natives will always protect public services, but we also honest about the taxes that pay for them after a once in a century pandemic and the biggest energy crisis in a generation, the level of tax is too high. we were right to protect jobs and families . and thanks to rishi's families. and thanks to rishi's furlough scheme , we recovered furlough scheme, we recovered faster from the pandemic than others. but with an ageing population and a war in europe, pubuc population and a war in europe, public spending is still growing faster than the economy . now faster than the economy. now some say that's inevitable . some say that's inevitable. while the institute for fiscal studies said last week it's likely to be what they said was a decisive and permanent shift to a higher tax economy conference, they're wrong. we need a more productive state,
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not a bigger state. and . if not a bigger state. and. if we increase public sector productivity growth by just half a% we can stabilise public spending as a proportion of gdp , increase it by more , and we , increase it by more, and we can bring the tax burden down in half a% now for those of us with private sector backgrounds, that doesn't seem too much, does it ? doesn't seem too much, does it? in the public sector , i'm in the public sector, i'm telling you, it's harder. but we are up for the challenge . so are up for the challenge. so i've commissioned my deputy, john glenn, to restart the process of public service reform. john wants to know why teachers say that more than half their time is spent not actually teaching by police. officers complain they spend longer filling out forms than catching
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criminals. why doctors and nurses say they spend up to half their time not with patients, but on admin. of course , we need but on admin. of course, we need modern working practises and better it. but the treasury too needs to change its focus from short term cost control to long term cost reduction and we're going to start with the civil service as we have the best civil servants in the world. and they saved many lives in the pandemic by working night and day. but even after that pandemic is over , we still have pandemic is over, we still have 66,000 more civil servants than before . new policies should not before. new policies should not always mean new people . so today always mean new people. so today i'm freezing the expansion of the civil service and putting in place a plan to reduce its numbers to pre—pandemic levels. this will save £1 billion next year.
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yean and i won't lift that freeze until we have a proper plan , not until we have a proper plan, not just for the civil service, but for all public sector productivity improvements . that productivity improvements. that means amongst other things, changing our approach to equality and diversity initiatives , smashing glass initiatives, smashing glass ceilings is everyone's job, not a box to be ticked by hiring a diversity manager . but a box to be ticked by hiring a diversity manager. but i'm going to surprise you with one equality and diversity initiative of my own. and trust me , you'll like this one. no me, you'll like this one. no body should have their bank account closed because somebody else decides they're not politically correct . it .
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politically correct. it. will tighten the law to stop people being banked for the wrong political views , as the wrong political views, as the lib dems are wrong to want to overturn a democratic brexit vote, but they still need a cashpoint to withdraw their euros as the snp are wrong to ignore a democratic vote for the union, but they still need a bank account to pay for their motorhomes . and even keir motorhomes. and even keir starmer, who's wrong on just about everything needs his trade union cash so he too can have a bank account. union cash so he too can have a bank account . just never the bank account. just never the keys to downing street . so . keys to downing street. so. there's somewhere else where we need to rethink the way the state works. our welfare system . i'm proud to live in a country where, as churchill said ,
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where, as churchill said, there's a ladder, there's a ladder everyone can climb. but also a safety net below which no one falls. that safety net is paid from tax and that social contract depends on fairness to those in work alongside compassion to those who aren't . compassion to those who aren't. and that means work must pay. we're making sure it does from last year, for the first time ever , you can earn £1,000 a ever, you can earn £1,000 a month without paying a penny of tax or national insurance, but despite that, even when companies are struggling to find workers , around 100,000 people workers, around 100,000 people are leaving the labour market every year for a life on benefits . mel stride gets this benefits. mel stride gets this 100, which is why he's replacing the work capability assessment . the work capability assessment. and we're going to look at the way the sanctions regime works. it isn't fair for that. someone
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who refuses to look seriously for a job gets the same as someone trying their best. now, labour have pledged to end sanctions, have they learned nothing when they left office? we had more children in workless households than nearly anywhere in europe since then those households are down by a million and conference. we are never ever going back . so to and conference. we are never ever going back . soto make ever going back. soto make sure work continues to pay today, i take a step fonnards towards completing another great conservative reform. the national living wage. since we introduced it nearly 2 million people have been lifted from absolute poverty after housing costs , not by tax credits or costs, not by tax credits or benefits, but by removing the
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barriers to work, boosting salaries , cutting tax, making salaries, cutting tax, making work pay. we promised in our manifesto to raise the national living wage to two thirds of median income , ending low pay in median income, ending low pay in this country . at the moment, this country. at the moment, it's £10.42 an hour and we're waiting for the low pay commission to tell us next years commission to tell us next year's recommendation . but i year's recommendation. but i confirm today, whatever that recommendation, we'll increase the national living wage to at least £11 an hour next year. that's a pay rise for 2 million workers. and the wages of the lowest paid over £9,000 higher than they were in 2010. because if you work hard, a conservative government will always have your back. it's easy to support higher
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growth , better public services growth, better public services and lower taxes, harder to make it happen in britain today, there's only one party prepared to make those difficult decisions . is to make those difficult decisions. is our party and our prime minister whose diligence and tenacity have given us the windsor framework the atlantic declaration, the trans pacific trade deal and the nhs workforce plan , whose own life story shows plan, whose own life story shows just what's possible with education, aspiration an and hard work . education, aspiration an and hard work. his story and our story more growth, more jobs, more doctors, more nurses . more doctors, more nurses. better schools, less poverty . better schools, less poverty. less crime conference . it's time less crime conference. it's time to roll up our sleeves , take on to roll up our sleeves, take on the declinists and watch the british economy prove the doubters wrong. thank you .
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doubters wrong. thank you. jeremy hunt. >> in that keynote speech , let's >> in that keynote speech, let's reflect that the biggest cheer appeared to come when he talked about public service reform in detail. freezing expansion of the civil service and reducing its size, bringing a cheer and a round of applause, but no mention of hs2 and what's going to happen or not happen about that manchester leg we are heanng that manchester leg we are hearing despite jeremy hunt not mentioning it, that the hs2, manchester leg is scrapped it. >> that is what we have heard in the last hour . we will be the last hour. we will be getting more reaction to that . getting more reaction to that. jeremy hunt, though, what he did say was that the national living wage is going to be increased to £11 an hour. and he told conference that if you work hard , a conservative government will always have your back . he also always have your back. he also talked about people being debunked . somebody who is at the debunked. somebody who is at the conference today, nigel farage, will have been listening to that
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closely because he was debunked by by coots well , jeremy hunt by by coots well, jeremy hunt says nobody should have their bank account closed because someone decides they are not politically correct. we will tighten the law to stop people being debunked for their political views . political views. >> but of course, many of the journalists there will now be wanting to know what is going to happen get the conference happen as we get the conference continuing . what is the status continuing. what is the status of hs2 ? i think we can speak to of hs2? i think we can speak to both liam and catherine foster, who has been monitoring these events. no mention of it there in that keynote speech. but catherine, just to come in on on what he'd said earlier, jeremy hunt indicated they were looking into hs2 as why it was so expensive and why it had failed on so many issues. clearly the indication was there that this might have been a decision that was coming . was coming. >> yes , a couple of weeks ago. >> yes, a couple of weeks ago. jeremy hunt said that the costs had spiralled completely out of control . and it's been widely
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control. and it's been widely trailed that the government were likely to scrap the northern branch from birmingham through to manchester. now, in the last hour, to manchester. now, in the last hour , i've had it confirmed by hour, i've had it confirmed by an impeccable source that michael gove, the levelling up secretary he understands that that part of the line is indeed being axed . and the expectation being axed. and the expectation is that the prime minister will announce this in his speech on wednesday. now, of course, we've been hearing a lot about this for a couple of weeks. this is really the last place the conservatives would want to have their party conference in manchester when they make this announcement. indeed the conference centre is an old train station where sitting in right now . so some irony there. right now. so some irony there. also the fact, of course, that people couldn't get to the conference by train because of the strikes and they won't be able to get back because of the strikes. so it does seem the
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decision has been taken, an announcement is coming on wednesday . okay. we understand wednesday. okay. we understand that what is going to happen , that what is going to happen, they will try to soften this blow because there's been huge opposition to the scrapping of hs2 and they will try to soften this blow by saying they're repurposing the money to other trans airport projects in the north of england . some talk of north of england. some talk of repairing the road network, potholes , etcetera. we know that potholes, etcetera. we know that in the last couple of days the conservatives have decided to be the motorists best friend, but also repurposing that money for northern powerhouse rail. now if it happens, i think it's worth saying we've been hearing about an east west connection for many . an east west connection for many , many, many years. george osborne, the former chancellor, was somebody who championed this. we've heard lots of talk of high speed lines connecting liverpool to manchester, to leeds, to hull , to newcastle, leeds, to hull, to newcastle, and yet that nothing has
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actually been delivered. so will it happen? and even if it does, what will the timescale be? we've had andy burnham , the we've had andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester, saying that he's been completely closed out of the process and also saying that that northern connection to manchester is integral to the plans for northern powerhouse rail. so i expect there will be an almighty row about this . row about this. >> okay, catherine, thank you for that. well, let's talk to our economics and business editor liam halligan. liam you were listening very closely there to what the chancellor had to say . hs2 not mentioned at to say. hs2 not mentioned at all, as we expected , there was all, as we expected, there was plenty of other things that he did say, all of them predictable as far as you're concerned . as far as you're concerned. >> quite predictable, widely trailed. of course, the minimum wage is going up. the government doesn't pay for that. business pay pays doesn't pay for that. business pay pays for that, though. government claims forms the
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credits . it wasn't too long ago credits. it wasn't too long ago that conservative party conferences were telling their delegates that if you have a minimum wage, it will cost jobs. so the conservatives have certainly changed their tune on that. certainly changed their tune on that . he's freezing the that. he's freezing the expansion of the civil service, which will go down well in these parts. and as we predicted, as we've been saying, all day, mark and pip, he made the case for tax cuts without actually outlining tax cuts. he didn't talk about liz truss directly , talk about liz truss directly, though, of course, many of the delegates watching him will have been at that fringe meeting, a packed house, fringe meeting just the hour before the chancellor spoke and on hs2. it doesn't really surprise me. hs2 has never really been that popular among the conservative party faithful. it isn't really that popular among the general public. it's popular among an extremely powerful engineering lobby , and it's popular among lobby, and it's popular among lots of business interests who have bought land up and down the
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line and want to benefit from the speculative increase is in the speculative increase is in the price of that land . and many the price of that land. and many people within the rail industry don't like hs2 because they think it costs too much money for the return you get on that money. but look, this is a huge embarrassment for the country. we've had this high speed rail project first proposed in 2009. it looks as if we're only going to end up with london to birmingham, not birmingham to manchester, as catherine was just saying there, or even birmingham to leeds. that branch of it was scrapped in 2021. and unless you have those links from birmingham to manchester and to leeds, the economics of the project, what we call the cost benefit analysis, the bang you get for your taxpayer buck doesn't really add up . we doesn't really add up. we already have two train lines from london to birmingham, and they're not bad . does it really they're not bad. does it really matter to take 20 minutes off the journey when there's decent wi—fi on trains these days? or at least there should be, and you work on those trains. it
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you can work on those trains. it strikes me that this will go down as another example of the uk not being able to really get its arms around big infrastructure projects in a mature and coherent way, but be in no doubt there will be a lot of conservative activists who cheer inwardly or even outwardly when rishi sunak scraps. london to manchester they'll take the embarrassment which catherine rightly mentioned, that they are in manchester. the conference is in manchester. the conference is in a former railway terminus. they'll take that on the chin , they'll take that on the chin, particularly if scrapping hs2, freeing up those tens of billions of pounds that have already been spent earmarked for the birmingham to manchester route, a route that we've already spent 2 to £3 billion on. by the way , we spent about on. by the way, we spent about £30 billion on london to birmingham so far. if that frees up money for tax cuts going fonnard, then i think the conservatives will think that it's a good job and they'll take the criticism it comes . the criticism as it comes. >> that will not be shared, however, by a certain lord heseltine. george osborne,
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patrick mclaughlin , former patrick mclaughlin, former transport secretary. so let's get back to catherine to find out bit because clearly out a bit more because clearly it's across the political divide . andy burnham, who spoke to chris hope as well, indicating that this would be, i think, vandalism , economic vandalism vandalism, economic vandalism was one of the phrases used . was one of the phrases used. what do we know about the offer to sweeten this in terms of a transpennine or other details ? transpennine or other details? >> well , we know that apparently >> well, we know that apparently money is going to roads. this is a bit of a departure, isn't it, because the government have found a newfound love of motorists and supporting drivers. we heard about it on saturday when rishi sunak said he's sick of the war against the motorists. we heard a lot from mark harper. the transport secretary, this morning . but secretary, this morning. but more broadly and i think more importantly, northern powerhouse rail now , it said that the money rail now, it said that the money will be re repurposed, but what we don't know is how much money
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will be repurposed and what exactly the north is going to end up with and when, because these things take many, many years, we know that hs2 first conceived in 2008, 2009, none of its opened, most of its been cut . it was originally a y shape . . it was originally a y shape. both the y parts have been cut. even the bit at the bottom is likely to stop at old oak common. so the 16 million people live in the north of england. and frankly, i think there will be a lot of scepticism because they have heard it all before. of fast trains. i mean, to give you an example, the journey times between leeds and manchester have barely changed in decades. and you know , the in decades. and you know, the transport problems in the north are huge. we have a massive productivity problem in this country . three we have great country. three we have great northern cities that are not geographically far apart and if they were linked up by good fast
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trains, imagine the potential that there would be. >> yeah, i'm just going to ask you very quickly, you indicated that this was from a source close to michael gove. what is michael gove likely to do now, beanng michael gove likely to do now, bearing mind his his remit as bearing in mind his his remit as levelling up originally ? levelling up originally? >> well, michael gove was said privately to be not very happy about this. it was also said that privately the transport secretary was not very happy about this, but ultimately i think the decision has been taken by the prime minister and i suspect by the treasury because in the end it's all about the money and they've decided that it's out of control. the money would be better used elsewhere, but i think it will be an international embarrassment. i mean, look at the high speed trains that they've had for decadesin trains that they've had for decades in france. tgv etcetera, just across the channel. they managed to build these trains, these networks . why can't we do these networks. why can't we do it here in the uk?
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>> we'll let that question hang in the air at that former railway station in manchester, liam and catherine for a moment. thank you. more as we get it, but let's get an update on the headunes but let's get an update on the headlines with . ray thanks , mark. >> it's 33 minutes past to our top stories this hour . a top stories this hour. a government source has told gb news that no decisions have been taken on hs2 following reports that the manchester leg has been axed as we've just been hearing, there's much speculation about there's much speculation about the rail project's future . it the rail project's future. it comes after a number of government ministers called for the project to be reviewed due to spiralling costs . the to spiralling costs. the chancellor says it shouldn't cost ten times more to build a railway in the uk than just across the channel in france as well . donald trump is arriving well. donald trump is arriving at a court in new york where he's due to stand trial in a civil fraud case. now we should be seeing for those of you watching on television pictures
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coming to us live from manhattan, the former us president is accused of inflating the value of his assets by billions of dollars to secure a better loan and insurance terms. now, this comes a week after the judge found mr trump liable for fraud and will largely concern the penalties that he must face. the prosecutor is seeking $250 million in fines and a permanent ban against trump from running businesses in new york. and we can see there a crowd of reporters waiting to receive him . well, a second police force is reportedly investigating allegations against the comedian russell brand . in a statement, russell brand. in a statement, thames valley police said it's received new information relating to harassment and stalking allegations dating back to 2018. they added that it would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation. it follows a joint investigation by the sunday times and channel 4. russell brand denies all
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allegations. accusations, rather, of criminality . liz rather, of criminality. liz truss has called on the chancellor to cut corporation tax back to 19% in his next autumn statement . speaking at a autumn statement. speaking at a fringe rally event , the former fringe rally event, the former pm urged the tory leadership to axe the tax cut bills and build homes . ms truss said businesses homes. ms truss said businesses are now choosing not to locate in the uk and they shouldn't be treated like a cash cow to be milked well. junior doctors and consultants in england have started a three day walkout until thursday at 7 am. they'll deliver what's being described as christmas day levels of staffing their last joint strike in september to led almost 130,000 appointments, being rescheduled. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com .
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gb news radio. >> welcome back to the live desk. plenty of drama in manchester, plenty of drama due to take off in new york. a certain donald trump , of course, certain donald trump, of course, due to stand trial there in a civil fraud case. he arrived very early and that is within the court precinct building where you can see the cameras and security awaiting for the former president to face these civil cases in terms of this
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particular hearing in front of judge arthur engoron , a man who judge arthur engoron, a man who mr trump has called deranged. >> it's not just the former us president either. it's also his two adult sons and the trump organisation accused of inflating the value of their properties by more . than $2 billion. >> yeah, in terms of this particular case, with the new york attorney general in this manhattan court, letitia james setting out a for case over $250 million in fines for the trump organisation as a whole. but then a ban on donald trump running any businesses in the state and of course it is his effective power base given trump tower and the other things such as golf courses he's got in new york state and so on. just to reiterate, he faces 91 criminal charges in four other cases denying any wrongdoing . ing and denying any wrongdoing. ing and says this all amounts to a witch
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hunt to prevent him returning to the white house with the courts. the 2024 presidential race this case is what's called a bench trial, and that means that it will be decided not by a jury , will be decided not by a jury, but by judge edgar on. >> and it could take as long as three months to hear the case. donald trump yesterday said that he would be present at the start of this trial today, says he is going there to fight for his name and reputation. he wrote on his truth social platform that this whole case is a sham . this whole case is a sham. >> judge engoron in in opposition to that has written in a ruling in court documents given in evidence that there are clearly fraudulent valuations , clearly fraudulent valuations, saying trump and the company operated in a fantasy world, ignonng operated in a fantasy world, ignoring planning and rent restrictions and boosting property values. trump, accused of overstating his wealth by . of overstating his wealth by. some $3.6 billion. that's why
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all those cameras are waiting back to new york as we get more now , junior doctors and now, junior doctors and consultants have joined forces on picket lines right across the country today in what is their longest combined strike so far in their long running dispute with the government over pay. well, last week, 27,000 staff absent from work due to this industrial action. indeed, since the strikes have begun, nhs england showing that the total number of acute appointments rescheduled now exceeding million. >> let's speak now to gb news reporter jack carson, who joins us from the manchester royal infirmary. jack, we just keep going round and round in circles . going round and round in circles , don't we, with these nhs strikes ? strikes? >> yeah, well, that's what it feels like, doesn't it? because of course the government refusing to come back to the table because of course they say they accepted those recommendations the recommendations. actions of the independent review body, the independent pay review body, the bma, of course , say that those bma, of course, say that those recommendations , firstly, a lot recommendations, firstly, a lot of the doctors actually today contesting whether the
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independent pay review body actually independent undent actually is independent undent to me and also obviously saying that those levels of pay that that those levels of pay are not of course, what they what they want senior consultants looking for anywhere in region 12% rise. in the region of a 12% pay rise. of they say it has to be of course, they say it has to be above to , inflation of course, above to, inflation of course, take into consideration of take into consideration some of those doctors those losses. junior doctors looking for full pay restoration back levels not seen for, of back to levels not seen for, of course, for about 15 to course, for about 15 years to take into consideration all the losses, they say around a 35% pay losses, they say around a 35% pay rise would be good enough for them. course, the for them. but of course, the government, without those negotiations, it's unclear here whether the bma will come off the picket lines any time soon. tomorrow here in manchester, we're huge we're going to get a huge national outside the national rally right outside the tory party conference with the bma busing in people from around the country to show their physical show of support . of physical show of support. of course, for the doctors strikes. we know that the public support is still with them. and as well, of course , speaking to the of course, speaking to the doctors on the line today doctors on the picket line today , say are, course, are , say they are, of course, are determined keep strike
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going. >> so i work as a consultant psychiatrist and i can tell you that for the last ten years, i don't think there has been a single period in which my hospital has not had to employ some temporary staff or some locum consultant . and that is locum consultant. and that is because not only are we not training enough doctors, we are losing doctors, we are haemorrhaging talent to other places as and unless that happens, it means the quality of care can't be preserved. it means that patients can't get the standard of service that they rightly expect and our medical schools that are training doctors will be training doctors will be training doctors will be training doctors that will go to other places. the message that we are saying is that we will continue to take the action we need to do until all the government comes with us, with a credible offer. i'm prepared to keep striking until we see some negotiation . negotiation. >> and that's the point. the government aren't coming to the table and actually that's disingenuous to it's an disingenuous to say it's an independent review body because
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it's independent at all. it's not independent at all. they've interfered it . how they've interfered with it. how can be can that possibly be independent? and, you know, for me, the problem is that over the past 10 to 15 years, we've seen attrition of our pay. when you take account inflation, we take into account inflation, we haven't kept pay parity with other professions and other similar professions and perhaps it's not so much maybe about at stage i'm about people. at my stage i'm a consultant. i'm probably going to be until 60. i'm to be working until i'm 60. i'm 54 that's not too long 54 now, so that's not too long to but it's really about the to go. but it's really about the next having next generation they're having it tough. you it really, really tough. you know, people like me are know, if people like me are dissatisfied and are burnt out because we are working longer and fewer staff and harder with fewer staff because they're leaving, we know there is going to be nobody to train the next generation of doctors, the next generation of doctors. young doctors. they've got young families. doctors. they've got young familmortgages. are their mortgages. they are getting headhunted getting poached and headhunted overseas. this all the overseas. we see this all the time . and the medical students time. and the medical students that through , they're that are coming through, they're coming to the point of graduation then many of them graduation and then many of them are decision leave are making a decision to leave medicine. of medicine. so there's a lot of attrition at point. and attrition at that point. and i've students who i've got medical students who i look who are actually in look after who are actually in the studies, who the middle of their studies, who are what's happening
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are looking at what's happening financially and now making a decision whether they're financially and now making a decision carry whether they're financially and now making a decision carry onlether they're financially and now making a decision carry on withr they're financially and now making a decision carry on with theirv're going to carry on with their studies so are not studies or not. so we are not planning future. there planning for the future. there is no staffing in planning for the future. there is nhs. no staffing in planning for the future. there is nhs. there's staffing in planning for the future. there is nhs. there's going 1g in planning for the future. there is nhs. there's going to in planning for the future. there is nhs. there's going to be no the nhs. there's going to be no nhs if we don't nhs in the future if we don't fight for our pay. >> well, jack, you reminding us earlier the two sides haven't spoken to each other for 100 days. and then we had doctor liam fox. of course, he was a gp himself speaking tory himself speaking at the tory party us, saying , party conference to us, saying, oh, not doctors on strike, oh, it's not doctors on strike, it's bma strike it's the bma that on strike indicating how far apart the two sides still are. maybe . sides still are. maybe. >> yeah, i think that certainly is the case in some respects, but also speaking to the doctors on the picket line here today, it's not just the bma . there are it's not just the bma. there are a lot of doctors which are unhappy with way of unhappy, happy with the way of course not only, course, with course not only, of course, with their structures , also, their pay structures, but also, of as mentioned, as of course, as you mentioned, as you those those you heard those from those doctors it's about doctors there, it's all about as well future of the nhs. and well the future of the nhs. and they don't currently feel that they don't currently feel that the levels are the current pay levels are creating nhs creating a future for the nhs where sustainable . where it's sustainable. >> jack outside manchester royal infirmary , of course, not that
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infirmary, of course, not that far from that conference, indeed. thanks for updating us there . there. >> peak scotrail fares are being scrapped from today in a six month trial which aims to encourage more people to travel by train instead of by car. >> well, the project being funded by the scottish government to allow customers to travel all day on off peak fares until the end of march 2024. >> scotrail have said the trial will see massive savings across the country. well let's go live to glasgow and speak to gb news, scotland. reporter tony maguire. tony the flip side of this, i guess, is that the service is are going to become extremely busy . busy. >> yes, that's correct . and it's >> yes, that's correct. and it's worth saying that scotrail are prepared for an increased footfall. of course , this is all footfall. of course, this is all in part to not just get people back to work , but scotland's back to work, but scotland's trains are only about 70% as full as they were before covid. so the scotrail this week they
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had come out this morning along with the transport secretary to really promote this event. but the hope is, as we say, that more people will leave the cars parked in the driveway and not to take the train for work , to take the train for work, which of course we still have quite a lot of remote and hybrid workers. so it will remain to be seen whether it's enough to bnng seen whether it's enough to bring them back up to those pre—pandemic levels. however, quite big savings right across the board. so from perth to dundeeis the board. so from perth to dundee is around just short of a £5 cheaper for a return . and £5 cheaper for a return. and then of course the edinburgh to glasgow line is around £14 cheapen glasgow line is around £14 cheaper. now over the course of the month that really tots up to about £280. and then if you take that journey five days a week from now until the end of the trial, well , that's about £1,600 trial, well, that's about £1,600 worth of savings . so it's fair worth of savings. so it's fair to say that especially in the heart of a cost of living crisis
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going into the winter months, where fuel bills we can expect to go up a good little bit, as they always do . and it's they always do. and it's certainly quite a lot of savings for people now. scotrail as i mentioned, they're prepared for quite a large influx of commuters. so they hope and they're to going they've said that every single carriage available is going to be on the network and some of the busier lines will have as many as eight extra carriages tacked onto the end of the trains. just to allow for those really high commuter periods. and of . periods. and of. >> and, tony, can you just give us an indication is this an experiment or have they done the number crunching where they believe enough extra passengers could come to on actually make up for these savings ? up for these savings? >> i think it's probably down to a couple of things . one, that, a couple of things. one, that, of course, scotrail has now been nationalised for the last 18 months. and i guess with other things going on in scottish
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politics, now is the best time to look at a way to really capitalise that to the benefit of the scottish population . on of the scottish population. on the other side is that it builds in green credentials to get less cars on the road and to get more people onto the trains. so we know that this is just going to be six months. it's going to be from the start of october till the end of march . and i dare say the end of march. and i dare say it's never nothing like this has really been done anywhere in the uk so it will be really uk before. so it will be really interesting those interesting to see whether those numbers can take this from being an experiment to a new benefit of the nationalised rail service here in scotland. >> tony in glasgow, thank you very much indeed for updating us. we'll let you go and get your cheap ticket to wherever your cheap ticket to wherever you get to. thanks you want to get to. thanks very much . much indeed. >> now we're into october now, but you might be interested to hear that last the uk had hear that last month the uk had its joint warmest september on record . the uk's mean record. the uk's mean temperature last month was 15.2 celsius, which puts it level
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with 2006 record figure and it is being credited by the met office as due to the impact of climate change. there is some lovely pictures for you last month and actually the weather over the next few days, although it's not boiling hot, it is going to be looking very mild for of year. for the time of year. >> not that crowd did >> might not be that crowd did that. like brighton , that. that looks like brighton, i clearly people i think. but clearly people enjoy an indian summer , which enjoy an indian summer, which we're told is actually october rather than september technically anyway . things have technically anyway. things have been hotting up in to . been hotting up in to. manchester so let's return to the tory party conference and bnng the tory party conference and bring our political editor, bring in our political editor, chris hope to are we there are we in the sidings? are we going round the turntable? where are we on it? chris it looks like. >> mark we're on the edge of what will be seen by many as a betrayal of the north of england. it looks like the government is about announce government is about to announce that between birmingham that the link between birmingham and manchester not going not and manchester is not going not going to go ahead. we've had and manchester is not going not goinfrom go ahead. we've had and manchester is not going not goinfrom sources:i. we've had and manchester is not going not goinfrom sources:i. wcolleague this from sources my colleague catherine broke on this
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catherine force broke on this channel a few moments ago , but channel a few moments ago, but she's close to very she's had sources close to very senior minister saying senior cabinet minister saying he has been told that he's not going ahead and we've been going to go ahead and we've been told announced in told it could be announced in the prime minister's speech tomorrow here in manchester. yeah, optics this yeah, but the optics of this happens are dreadful. the official from the official line from the government no decisions government is that no decisions have often can be have been made that often can be seen as code for they haven't yet announced it again , nothing yet announced it again, nothing confirmed. but if this goes ahead , mark, you've got all this ahead, mark, you've got all this money being spent out on tunnelling the south of tunnelling under the south of england, between london and birmingham, all the money is gone and they can't afford to link the north to birmingham. it is almost a symbol of the failure for many of levelling up in this country. >> yeah, and we understand michael gove may be the person who has let the cat out of the bag early before prime bag early before the prime minister do we minister announces it. do we know anything then, about the bottom where we told bottom end where we were told about common might about old oak common might be the line rather than the end of the line rather than euston, and we still don't know. >> know work paused in >> we know work is paused in euston. line euston. so instead this line will start five miles out at old
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oak common and then go underground for most of it to birmingham and then that's hs2 thatis birmingham and then that's hs2 that is not the hs2 that the cameron government supported back in the day . that was back in the day. that was supported again by boris johnson's government, theresa may's this has always may's liz truss. this has always been a project, mark and pippa, that's driven by political that's been driven by political need and less. the economics have been less clear, but i think the timing of this is dreadful. i'm talking to you, as you know, from manchester this now will not be connected. there may mitigation because may be some mitigation because there's hs2 link in there's parts of the hs2 link in there's parts of the hs2 link in the which which is the north which which is required to link hull to manchester, to liverpool on this northern powerhouse rail . so the northern powerhouse rail. so the hopeis northern powerhouse rail. so the hope is there'll be those measures. but but it seems right now that as things stand, not confirmed yet and again, the government not commenting, but there's widespread, widespread reports here in manchester that this is not going to go ahead. this link between manchester and birmingham. chris thank you for updating us. >> your >> and of course, your conversation with andy conversation earlier with andy burnham, the greater manchester
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mayor they may be mayor indicating they may be considering legal action that considering legal action if that decision made . but we'll see decision was made. but we'll see what moment. what happens. for the moment. thanks with that thanks for updating us with that breaking news. >> there be more from the >> there will be more from the tory at top tory party conference at the top of hour. of the hour. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news something of a north south split with the weather today and then the potential some pretty heavy potential for some pretty heavy rain over of central rain over parts of central and eastern england tonight. so there's areas of low there's two areas of low pressure . this one moving up pressure. this one moving up from is bringing some from the south is bringing some quite warm air, it's also quite warm air, but it's also bringing and bringing a lot of clouds and damp and drizzly feel across southwest england, much of north wales light rain and drizzle on and off here, pushing into north—west something north—west england to something a bit brighter parts of a bit brighter over parts of eastern england and some good spells sunshine scotland spells of sunshine for scotland and northern ireland, although spells of sunshine for scotland and ncoflern ireland, although spells of sunshine for scotland and ncof showers.1d, although spells of sunshine for scotland and ncof showers. also .though spells of sunshine for scotland and ncof showers. also coming plenty of showers. also coming in brisk wind across the in on a brisk wind across the highlands western isles. highlands and the western isles. temperatures here the temperatures here in the mid teens further south with a bit of brightness, could easily of brightness, we could easily creep then creep into the 20s, but then later on the rain is likely to turn heavier over the midlands,
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particularly the east midlands, through lincolnshire through parts of lincolnshire dunng through parts of lincolnshire during the and during the evening, and especially parts of norfolk. especially for parts of norfolk. we could catch some thunderstorms that could drop a lot of rain in a space of lot of rain in a short space of time. before that, all tends to clear overnight . clear away overnight. temperatures holding up in the south night here. south quite a warm night here. something little cooler something a little cooler further most further north, but still most towns cities double towns and cities in double digits onto tuesday. and we still start off with a lot of cloud over east anglia in the south—east. little bit of rain south—east. a little bit of rain here early on, too, but that should then. skies should clear away then. skies brighten . most places will see brighten. most places will see a mixture of sunshine and showers brighten. most places will see a mi:tuesday, unshine and showers brighten. most places will see a mi:tuesday, withine and showers brighten. most places will see a mi:tuesday, with most|d showers brighten. most places will see a mi:tuesday, with most ofshowers brighten. most places will see a mi:tuesday, with most of the/ers on tuesday, with most of the showers across northern england and scotland and a largely dry afternoon further south, a bit breezy, temperatures in the breezy, but temperatures in the sunshine in the south—east sunshine again in the south—east over
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>> welcome to conservative party conference. 2023. join me as i take you through the beating heart of the action and what promises to be one of the most important party conferences in modern political history. i'm going in strong at the top with deputy party chairman lee anderson. talking me anderson. he'll be talking to me about shy about whether or not work shy people have their people should have their benefits cut. michael fabricant will hot seat next. will be in the hot seat next. he's going to a chat with he's going to have a chat with me or we me about whether or not we should whether should leave the echr, whether we turn boats back. we should turn the boats back. a massive issue dividing this we should turn the boats back. a massiandssue dividing this we should turn the boats back. a massiand indeed'iding this we should turn the boats back. a massiand indeed theg this we should turn the boats back. a massiand indeed the nation kemi party and indeed the nation kemi badenoch tipped by many to be the leader of the the next leader of the conservative hear conservative party. we'll hear from this well . she from her this hour as well. she says tories are the says that the tories are the only definitively only party who can definitively
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tell what a woman is and the tell you what a woman is and the biggest noise of the day so far. the biggest shock for many was nigel farage walking this very path this studio here. path to this very studio here. he will also be on my show and are there rumblings that he could even rejoin the conservative party? surely not. it's all to play for. yes, indeed. later on today . yes, indeed. later on today. i've also got the latest on this afternoon's huge breaking news story on hs2. will we be reporting very soon that the latest leg to manchester has been scrapped? i've got deputy chair of the party, lee anderson , with me, liam halligan. we'll be picking through it as well as, of course, our political editor, hope , and editor, christopher hope, and much, that's to much, much more. so that's to all play now between now and all play for now between now and 6:00. your latest 6:00. but first is your latest headunes 6:00. but first is your latest headlines with . ray thanks ,
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