along the way. you entertainment along the way. you are watching gb news, britain's news channel my big opinion is on the way . i have written rishi on the way. i have written rishi sunak speech so he doesn't have to. let's hope he's listening. that's after the news with polly middlehurst . mark mark, thanks middlehurst. mark mark, thanks very much indeed and good evening to you. >> well, the top story on gb news tonight is that the greater manchester mayor says axing the northern section of hs2 would be the desperate act of a dying government. that as a number 10 source told gb news earlier on today that no firm decision have yet been taken. but andy burnham has called on the prime minister to end the shambles on hs2 , too, to end the shambles on hs2, too, following increased speculation about the rail project's future and a number of government ministers calling for the project to be reviewed due to spiralling costs . the spiralling costs. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, says it shouldn't cost ten times more to

build a railway in the uk than just across the channel in france . and the chancellor also france. and the chancellor also announced today plans to freeze the expansion of the civil service and reduce its numbers to pre—pandemic levels. during his speech at the conservative party conference in manchester today, jeremy hunt said it would save the government £1 billion a year. meanwhile the chancellor announced tougher benefits sanctions on those who are capable of working but choose to . not and he announced a national living wage rise to £11 an hour. we promised in our manifesto to raise the national living wage to two thirds of median income and ending low pay in this country. >> we at the moment it's £10, 42 an hour, and we're waiting for the low pay commission to tell us next year's recommendation. but i confirm today, whatever that recommendation, we'll increase the national living wage to at least £11 an hour next year . that's a pay rise for

next year. that's a pay rise for 2 million workers. >> well, at the same conference, liz truss called on the chancellor to cut corporation tax from 25% back down to 19% in his next autumn statement . his next autumn statement. speaking at a fringe rally, the former prime minister urged the tory leadership to axe the tax cut bills and build homes. her comments came after jeremy hunt told gb news no substantial tax cuts were possible this year . ms cuts were possible this year. ms truss said businesses, though , truss said businesses, though, are choosing not to locate in the uk and they shouldn't be treated like a cash cow . now treated like a cash cow. now away from politics, a second police force is investigating allegations against the comedian russell brand. in a statement, thames valley police said it's received new information relating to harassment and stalking allegations dating back to 2018. they added it would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation . it ongoing investigation. it follows a joint investigation by the sunday times and channel 4.

russell brand denies all accusations of criminal city and lastly tonight, thunderstorms are set to batter the country . are set to batter the country. tonight, the met office issuing a yellow weather warning for areas right across the uk from manchester and birmingham, right to down london and southampton. currently there are two dozen flood warnings in place, mainly in east anglia . and the met in east anglia. and the met office has warned of intense downpours, lightning and gusty winds, downpours expected as well , we understand, for the well, we understand, for the rest of the week. yellow weather warnings in place until friday. all autumn has arrived on tv onune all autumn has arrived on tv online dab+ radio and the tune—in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> it's time now for my alternative rishi sunak speech to conference. i've written it so he doesn't have to. let's hope he's listening . conference hope he's listening. conference ihave hope he's listening. conference i have a simple goal, which is

to reclaim the best aspects of our past and the things that many of you feel we've lost whilst also striding confidently into the future . we're seeking into the future. we're seeking new opportunities . so into the future. we're seeking new opportunities. so i'm into the future. we're seeking new opportunities . so i'm here new opportunities. so i'm here to restore and to revive, to restore starts with our values for fundamentals like the family research act, for the law self—response ability and free speech, which no one should lose. their bank accounts lose their job, or be lose. their bank accounts lose theirjob, or be publicly their job, or be publicly demonised used for their legally held views . we've got to go back held views. we've got to go back to a time when people could have different opinions and that wasn't just accepted, but embraced . it's time to end the embraced. it's time to end the age of intolerance and the cancer of cancel culture, which is why i'm going to tackle the insidious woke culture which has begun to infect our public institutions . i will be institutions. i will be britain's first anti woke prime

minister. it's not acceptable for the nhs to refer to women as birthing humans, cis females or chest feeders. i'll make sure that the public sector embrace the fundamental facts of human biology . and whilst people are biology. and whilst people are of course free to identify as they wish and be respected for that, there's no place for biological men in female spaces or female sports . i will restore or female sports. i will restore what it is to be a woman and protect it in law and let me put this on record . zero women have this on record. zero women have penises . not even the butch ones penises. not even the butch ones . it's not acceptable for civil servants to be brainwashed into ideas like critical race theory, which divides our communities and goes against the wise words of martin luther king, who aspire to a colour—blind society dodi. so i'm going to fight out the war on woke and i'm going to win . the immediate challenge for win. the immediate challenge for the economy is to get inflation

down to 3, which is like a tax cut for everyone . once that's cut for everyone. once that's been achieved at taxes will come down across the board, but not before four. it should be you who decides how your money is spent , not the state. so how spent, not the state. so how will i achieve these tax cuts? two things. as a government focussed exclusively and aggressively on growth . plus, i aggressively on growth. plus, i will drastically cut public spending . britain lives beyond spending. britain lives beyond its means and we spend more than comes in on my watch that will end. it'll be hard. you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs and i'm going to make the world's biggest omelette with 5 million people of working age. not active in the economy unless you're physically unable to, you will get back to work. getting up in the morning, getting out of the house and putting a shift in has got to pay more than sitting at home receiving handouts at the taxpayer's

expense . yes, everything has got expense. yes, everything has got to shrink. and i don't just mean to shrink. and i don'tjust mean my rather short trousers as the nhs is too bloated, too big, too inefficient and employs too many diversity officers and not enough oncologists and nurses , enough oncologists and nurses, we're going to build more houses on brown and greenfield sites with a blitz on red tape planning laws. developers sitting on land and nimbyism . i sitting on land and nimbyism. i will build our great cities of the future , but building more the future, but building more housesis the future, but building more houses is pointless if demand continues at current levels with legal net migration at over 600,000 a year and illegal immigration running into tens of thousands too. we've got to invest in our own people so we're not reliant on cheap foreign labour, which means aiming for net migration annually at 200,000 max and eliminated illegal crossings in

the channel entirely . these the channel entirely. these crossings are an economic national security and humanitarian disaster and i'm willing to exit the echr and do whatever else it takes to end this daily nightmare which hurts the many people , the thousands the many people, the thousands of people who do have a valid claim for asylum in this country . and i'm replacing net zero with what i'm calling smart net zero or smart zero, which means a long term plan to reduce emissions. but one with three new red lines . number one, new red lines. number one, evidence based science so that we can have tangible proof that renewables and electric cars and windmills and all the rest of it are actually going to make a difference. number two, we will have the economy at the forefront. so we don't bankrupt ourselves or clobber hard working brits with crippling extra costs . and number three, extra costs. and number three, the will of the people so that each and every one of you are aware of the costs , is aware of

aware of the costs, is aware of the sacrifices needed and support the plan on smart zero backs, green renewables , but backs, green renewables, but grants new oil and gas licences in the north sea to because the resources are there, why buy them from russia , saudi arabia them from russia, saudi arabia and the united states ? it's and the united states? it's smart. zero reverses the ban on petrol and diesel cars and perfectly good boilers to but not until 2030 or 2035. if indefinitely. that's right . indefinitely. that's right. until the technology is affordable and catches up. and lastly , i will tackle crime, lastly, i will tackle crime, which is the new epidemic shop lifting knife crime, burglaries, assault . it's getting out of assault. it's getting out of hand and i will create a culture in which people are afraid to break the law and afraid they will be caught. i will let police, police again, but i'll make sure it's not a crime to be patriotic , to celebrate our patriotic, to celebrate our complicated but glorious history and to love this country . what

and to love this country. what binds our diverse society is that we are all british. so i want to us be one country again . it's time for all of to us come together, to work together and build a bright future for the united kingdom. let's put the united kingdom. let's put the great back into great britain . your reaction to my britain. your reaction to my conference speech? there you go . it's like rishi sunak was saying those words . let's hope saying those words. let's hope he was listening. mark gbnews.com is the email . i'll gbnews.com is the email. i'll get pundit reaction shortly, but let's cross live now to tory party conference in manchester and our political correspondent catherine forster . catherine, catherine forster. catherine, i won't ask you to comment on my speech because i'm not the prime minister, but tell me about the atmosphere up there in in manchester. what is the mood ? manchester. what is the mood? >> well , very mixed. >> well, very mixed. >> well, very mixed. >> there are some conservatives here that still believe it's possible that they might win the next election. rishi sunak still believes that they are now only

10% behind labour. in one recent poll. i use the word only advisedly, but there are many, many people here who already believe that they have lost the general election and are already basically setting out their stall to get rishi sunaks job in the future. now the big set piece event today was the chancellor jeremy hunt's speech and not very exciting announcements. i think we're certainly going to have to wait till the spring for those long awaited tax cuts if they come . awaited tax cuts if they come. but conversation here really dominated by a couple of things. first of all, the almight row of hs2 and secondly, rishi, you sunak seems to be haunted by the sort of ghosts of prime ministers past now on hs2 to the government's official line is that no decision has been taken. but i was told this afternoon by an impeccable source that michael gove, the levelling up

secretary, has said that it is going to be axed and expects the announcement to be made in rishi sunaks speech on wednesday. also now liz truss has been causing a lot of media attention calling for tax cuts , for growth, all for tax cuts, for growth, all the things she normally talks about. the things she normally talks about . i the things she normally talks about. i think rishi sunak probably doesn't appreciate the interventions , but she's very interventions, but she's very much still present at conservative conference >> well, listen, catherine, i'll let you get back to conference and hopefully michael gove on the dance floor. my thanks to our political correspondent catherine forster . let's get catherine forster. let's get reaction now to my conference speech. there you go . i wrote speech. there you go. i wrote rishi sunaks keynote so he doesn't have to. daily express columnist carole malone, former labour party adviser and i should add speechwriter matthew lazar and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. belinda i think that's what rishi sunak should say on wednesday. what's your view? >> i think if it came from any other party other than the

tories or god forbid, labour or anything like that , people might anything like that, people might believe it. >> the problem is we've heard tough rhetoric before the tough rhetoric before from the conservative party. >> if rishi did that >> so if rishi did make that speech about people speech, it's all about do people trust would deliver on it? trust he would deliver on it? >> and that's the issue at the moment conservative moment with the conservative party. his party. rishi needs to put his big pants on and show to the big boy pants on and show to the to the country. he has a purpose and what he stands for because at the moment no one's quite sure what he stands for. and i was dinner last was at the gala dinner last night in manchester at the cd0 gala with priti patel, and it is clear that the sort of actual conservative in the conservative party at the moment are seen as the rebels and rishi needs to distance himself from from the left wing of his party. and he has started that, hasn't he, with his rethink on net zero, he has on net zero. has a rethink on net zero. and interestingly, coming interestingly, recently coming out and saying he will ignore the future rulings the echr the future rulings of the echr if they go against rwanda . and i if they go against rwanda. and i thought that was quite interesting as well. again, let's hope it all plays out. but until he does make that break

from the left wing of the party, the of lib dems who are the sort of lib dems who are masquerading conservatives in masquerading as conservatives in the i think he's the party, then i think he's handing the keys to labour. one thing about your speech, i would like you like to just comment on. you talked . one of the talked about crime. one of the big triggers of all this mass crime. you see a lot of the youth doing is social media and how social media plays a part. and what i think the country would really benefit from is , is would really benefit from is, is the government to look at social media how a part in media and how it plays a part in youth crime and to cut down on that, provide that, you know, provide solutions to the problem? >> well, definitely. and social media for media is a disaster also for mental health, isn't it? not just for young people, but probably karen probably most of us. karen malone that malone my big focus in that speech economy. that's speech is the economy. that's number cost of living number one, the cost of living crisis. and crisis. our viewers and listeners at the listeners are struggling at the moment. we're looking at moment. plus, we're looking at other key structural issues within whether it's energy security. there wasn't time for roads and transport and the rest of it, but the culture wars, britain's first anti—woke prime minister, i think he could go far with that message .

far with that message. >> all i can say is thank god you're not prime minister. >> that's the thing. >> that's the thing. >> that's the thing. >> that's uppermost in people's minds. well, i think it's very important. >> people are anchored by by by the of women with penises . the idea of women with penises. >> i don't think it's an election winning policy necessarily. >> i think yes, of course , we >> i think yes, of course, we have to tackle. of course we do. but we tackle on a daily but we tackle that on a daily basis anyway i think, basis anyway. but i think, you know, me , for the first time know, for me, for the first time in quite time , i'm in quite a long time, i'm looking now and i'm looking at rishi now and i'm seeing a path to victory. fraser nelson used those words in a piece in the spectator today. i'm looking at him and i'm seeing a bloke who's trying to shake off the car salesman image. he's trying to get tough. >> he's looking tougher, he's sounding tougher. last week he said things i think said a lot of things i think would people about, said a lot of things i think wou know, people about, said a lot of things i think wou know, he's people about, said a lot of things i think wou know, he's peopto about, said a lot of things i think wou know, he's peopto fightt, said a lot of things i think wou warn, he's peopto fightt, said a lot of things i think wou war onle's peopto fightt, said a lot of things i think wou war on motorists to fightt, said a lot of things i think wou war on motorists .o fightt, this war on motorists. >> he's, you know, he's slowing down the rush to net—zero . you down the rush to net—zero. you know, he is going to announce the cancellation of g.s.t. or at least they're going, you know, they're just going to do the manchester sorry, the london to birmingham route. and i think

that resonate that will that will resonate with a lot of people. i mean, we're going to discuss this later. to say, you later. we're going to say, you know, is a betrayal know, is this is this a betrayal of the i think it's the of the north? i think it's the total opposite that. total opposite of that. i think he's it, total opposite of that. i think he's it , £100 total opposite of that. i think he's it, £100 billion he's looked at it, £100 billion bill and thought, nah , we're not bill and thought, nah, we're not going to do it, because that was really upsetting people. but i think he's he's saying a lot of the right stuff now. know , the right stuff now. you know, and what i think he and i think but what i think he really to do is start really needs to do is start hammering to hammering home the message to people about starmer and the things happen things that will happen if starmer power , like starmer gets into power, like open , like wanting to go open borders, like wanting to go back into the eu . like, you back into the eu. like, you know, he's talking about, you know, he's talking about, you know, we know that he wants to open the borders. we know he wants to. for us now to take migrants from europe more than we're taking our fair share. he wants to give children the vote. he give dido , he wants to give dido, basically. yes. i think it has to start hammering labour. well, matthew , energy security. matthew, energy security. >> . tackling the woke >> okay. tackling the woke capture of our public institutions and of course, capping legal migration at 200,000 a year. those are all in

my speech. i think if keir starmer said half of those things, he'd win the next election. >> well, he will say half of those because talk those things because he'll talk about is those things because he'll talk aimajor is those things because he'll talk aimajor theme. is those things because he'll talk aimajor theme. talks a major labour theme. he talks about last year, about energy security last year, investing in windmills. well, not just by investing in windmills, say windmills, but can i just say can i say i'm glad you're can i just say i'm glad you're not not prime minister, can i just say i'm glad you're not i not prime minister, can i just say i'm glad you're not i thought. prime minister, can i just say i'm glad you're not i thought. prirdidviinister, can i just say i'm glad you're not i thought. prirdidviiireally but i thought you did a really good he did a good job. i thought he did a reasonable job as an expert , as reasonable job as an expert, as a speechwriter. i'm very glad that of had leader that neither of you had leader of opposition, though, of the opposition, though, because i think you know or leader tory party, leader of the tory party, because that my lot because i think that my lot would much time would have a much harder time than othennise. also than othennise. you're also a lot taller than rishi, which does delivering a speech does make delivering a speech easier. have a very , a very easier. you have a very, a very good as somebody good presence. look, as somebody who who speeches who writes, who writes speeches when i'm not chatting you on when i'm not chatting to you on gb news, the thing you need in a speech is a narrative and that sort of slightly pompous word for the problem for a story. and the problem they've got is cows, right? there's a lot of energy there's been a lot of energy over the last few days from rishi, doesn't to rishi, but it doesn't add up to a because rishi, a story because unlike rishi, you were starting with a blank sheet prime minister sheet of paper. prime minister dolan he dolan was starting from zero. he wasn't starting a record of wasn't starting with a record of 13 failure. and of

13 years of failure. and of course, hs2, for example, they spent all the money under their watch. so he's kind fighting watch. so he's kind of fighting himself, were , and himself, as it were, and fighting their own record. >> rishi was >> well, remember, rishi was always opposed to hst. yes >> same party chancellor >> but same party chancellor okay. same person. >> stuff. your >> fascinating stuff. your reaction gbnews.com would reaction market gbnews.com would you vote for me? well, not literally . but what you think literally. but what do you think about big opinion? what do about my big opinion? what do you about the you think about some of the points that i've made and some of the tangible policies i of the tangible policies that i think that sunak should roll out including and diesel cars including petrol and diesel cars and perfectly functional boilers for the foreseeable future. still to come, after being cancelled by students, top professor eric kauffman has launched a university course to combat extreme political correctness or woke ideology as it's known. he tells us more live in the studio shortly. but next in the clash , as jeremy next in the clash, as jeremy hunt declares war on the workshy, has britain become the lazy man of europe once again ? lazy man of europe once again? we'll debate that with neil hamilton. he's

days from three on . gb news well days from three on. gb news well , i have given my national address . address. >> yes indeed. rishi sunak will speak to conference on wednesday. i've written a speech already. it was my big opinion monologue. it will be on twitter shortly but response on shortly, but a big response on email. mark gbnews.com. steve says i would vote for all says mark, i would vote for all of that you said why can't of that that you said why can't politicians see the light? many thanks for sharing your words. i feel i am not alone. okay, well look, lots more of your emails to come and also richard tice joining us. should the right

come together to keep keir starmer out of number 10? but first, this . yes it's time for first, this. yes it's time for the clash and speaking at the conservative party conference in manchester the chancellor manchester today, the chancellor jeremy hunt, declared war on jeremy hunt, has declared war on work shy brits by announcing a crackdown on those claiming benefits but refusing to look for a job. here's what he had to say. >> when companies are >> even when companies are struggling to find workers , struggling to find workers, around 100,000 people are leaving the labour market every year for a life on benefits . mel year for a life on benefits. mel stride gets this 100, which is why he's replacing the work capable assessment. and we're going to look at the way the sanctions regime works. it isn't fair that someone who refuses to look seriously for a job gets the same as someone trying their best. >> hunt's intervention comes after the latest figures revealed that brits took an average of 7.8 days off. sick over the last year. that's

right. almost eight days of sick days in the past year, the highest level in more than a decade. and with over a fifth of the working age population now out of a job, is britain becoming the lazy man of europe all over again? let me know your thoughts. gb news.com all over again? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com or at thoughts. mark gbnews.com or at gb news on twitter. the poll results with you shortly, but to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome ukip leader neil hamilton and the writer and broadcaster anna mae mangan. anna, you back on anna, great to have you back on the you think britain the show. do you think britain is of is becoming the lazy man of europe again ? europe again? >> no, i think jeremy hunt is operating some very lazy dog whistle politics here. i mean, he should be concentrating . he should be concentrating. actually, what he's trying to do is get the electorate to look the other way from the absolute bonfire that they've created in the british economy. there are £16 million in unclaimed billion sorry , unclaimed benefits, and sorry, unclaimed benefits, and there's 300 billion in tax that's been avoided by the rich and my favourite part of his very disingenuous speech is when he said he's going to offer

therapy and medical support to get the sick and disabled back into work as well. i mean, does he not know what state the nhs is in? he probably doesn't because he doesn't have to use it. >> well, indeed , actually, as >> well, indeed, actually, as per my manifesto just a few minutes ago, i think that if you're unable to go to work because your health, then you because of your health, then you should there are plenty should not. but there are plenty of people, anna mae mangan, who can work, who don't, let's be honest. >> well, who's going to decide who they are ? i don't know. i who they are? i don't know. i mean, haven't to claim mean, i haven't tried to claim benefits recently, but lots of people it is people i know have. and it is not an easy process. there not an easy process. and there are already sanctions in place for those who won't look for work, who aren't doing their best to get off benefits. so this is just a story. this is jackanory from hunt, who is just wants the lecturer to think that they're doing all they can. i've heard we've heard this before on the nhs, on the police, on crime . i mean, there's so many things, so many empty promises that he's made this is just one more nonsense , really.

more load of nonsense, really. >> well, hamilton, i don't >> well, neil hamilton, i don't think it's jackanory. i don't think it's jackanory. i don't think a tall tale. the think it's a tall tale. the figures speak for themselves. eight sick days year on eight sick days a year on average. the economy just can't afford that. >> well , let's look at the other >> well, let's look at the other big figures here. >> since the start of the covid pandemic, our working population has diminished by 860,000. >> and those who are economically inactive in the population have increased by 650,000. >> and in 2022 alone, the number of vacancies that were waiting to be filled went up by half a million. so the number of jobs available has been going up while the number of people want to fill them has been dramatically falling . so what dramatically falling. so what we've just heard is the real nonsense here. well jeremy hunt is saying is , of course, is saying is, of course, perfectly sensible. well, he's talking about 100,000 a year. this is peanuts compared with not just the number of people who are economically inactive , who are economically inactive, but those who are doing unproductive jobs . or what about

unproductive jobs. or what about those who are shirking from home? half the civil home? you know, half the civil service is working from home in some departments, 71% of those , some departments, 71% of those, those who are employed by us, the taxpayer , are working from the taxpayer, are working from home and i don't know whether others know all the temptations of working from home, but it's a dramatic reduction in productivity, which probably has occurred as a result of all that i >> neil, i think you're an outrageous hypocrite. look at you. you're shirking from home. christine's probably just poured you a large sherry and anna may that. >> the difference is that we are self—employed . self—employed. >> lloyd and there you go. >> lloyd and there you go. >> if we don't work, we don't earn. i'm very pleased i'm earn. and i'm very pleased i'm working at this very moment. >> play you . fair play >> fair play to you. fair play to you , anna may mangan i will to you, anna may mangan i will have viewers and listeners to this show who will say that either they know someone or they themselves haven't had a day off work for 50 years, but now eight

days a year on average , days a year on average, businesses can't afford that. it's going to cripple them . it's going to cripple them. >> well, do you know that 1 in 2 >> well, do you know that1 in 2 people in this country get cancer now and there's a lot of unseen disability is a lot of mental health illnesses . so you mental health illnesses. so you can't judge people. the majority of people go to work, do a do a good job, but they are very angry at the state of the economy , their bills, their economy, their bills, their interest , their fuel, interest rates, their fuel, their car, their petrol. in fact, talking of cars and petrol, this reminds me of the norman tebbit get on your bike moment , but switched off so many moment, but switched off so many of the electorate who actually couldn't work because of couldn't find work because of their own, not because of their own but because the own laziness, but because the other you know other difficulties. so, you know , this is just tory rhetoric being regurgitated. again jeremy hunt should focus on his job, a job, by the way, he was put into by an unelected prime minister, neil hamilton . neil hamilton. >> closing remarks give me 10s if you can. well you know, we have an economy which could be

much greater than it is the government has done nothing to take advantage of the freedoms which brexit brought. >> we've done very little to get rid of the huge burden of unnecessary regulation. >> we need to give more people incentives to go out and work and to work harder through reducing taxation . when we've reducing taxation. when we've had 13 years of conservative government that's been behaving like keir starmer's government would work. so in the last few days we've actually heard some inkungs days we've actually heard some inklings of real conservative policies such as dumping this net zero target, although it's only for five years and in other ways which we could vastly increase the productive potential of the economy. we want a high wage economy that only comes from having high productivity . productivity. >> that was a long 10s let me tell you, christine's a lucky lady. anna mae mangan, you raised a very good point. if we're going to encourage people to make they've got to work, make sure they've got a job to go to. fair point. to work, make sure they've got a job to go to. fair point . my job to go to. fair point. my thanks to anna may mangan and

the brilliant neil hamilton. what debate your what a great debate your reaction? it's in let me reaction? well, it's in let me say that, alan, on twitter has said the uk has record employment rates. i don't see how we can be considered lazy, especially compared to a lot of southern european countries with high unemployment . sean on high unemployment. sean on twitter have become twitter says brits have become lazier by working from home and this be scrapped so that this should be scrapped so that people but people don't have a choice but to back the and to get back into the office and back said . it's back into work. dave said. it's easy to pull excuse me, it's easy to pull all excuse me, it's easy to pull all excuse me, it's easy the blame on job easy to put all the blame on job seekers , as majority whom seekers, as the majority of whom do keep applying forjobs but get rejected constantly. try asking tougher questions of employers who won't take people on unless they'll work for peanuts . so is britain on unless they'll work for peanuts. so is britain becoming once again the lazy man of europe? the results are in 78, i'm afraid. say yes. britain is becoming the lazy man of europe and 22% say no are coming up as nigel farage appears at the tory party conference to a rapturous reception. is it time for the right to come together to keep

keir starmer out of number 10? i'll be asking the leader of reform uk very much a potential kingmaker at the next election . kingmaker at the next election. an richard tice. but first, after being forced out of a prestigious academic institution, cancelled , institution, cancelled, university professor eric kaufmann has set up a faculty for common sense . so should our for common sense. so should our young people be taught about the dangers that woke ideology poses to society ? yeah, that's right. to society? yeah, that's right. he's a top professor at a brand new anti—woke university. would you send your kids there? he's live in the studio to deliver a knockout lecture

monday to thursdays from six till 930 . till 930. >> should the right come together to keep keir starmer out of number 10? gb news star richard tice responding to that in just a few minutes. but let's now speak to professor eric kaufmann, who was formerly the head of politics at birkbeck university of london, when he was more or less cancelled by students over his more conservative leaning views after being ousted from a job he held for 20 years. the prof is now launching a war on woke by founding a faculty of common sense at a rival institution . he sense at a rival institution. he hopesit sense at a rival institution. he hopes it will become a globally recognised centre for research into the culture wars. examining woke attitudes to controversial subjects such as trans rights and critical race theory . and and critical race theory. and the prof joins me now. professor welcome to the show. great to be here. and would you give us the

circumstances by which or under which left ? which you left? >> birkbeck yes. >> birkbeck yes. >> so i, i should say birkbeck didn't oust me. >> i mean, this was a situation where a number of things came together. one was a certain amount cancel culture. amount of cancel culture. so i'd had a few twitter mobbings again, by radical, a small number of radical students, some radical staff . number of radical students, some radical staff. i'd had a certain a certain number of internal investigations prompted by complaints by radicals . complaints by radicals. >> so life at work was becoming uncomfortable? >> yeah, absolutely. absolutely. so it was just an awkward situation . and there had been situation. and there had been a story that someone had left the university rat radical person in our university had left that created a bit of a storm. people called in. it was a bit awkward. so it just made called in. it was a bit awkward. so itjust made relationships so it just made relationships awkward. the quality of workplace life kind of deteriorated a little bit, but that on its own wouldn't have been enough really to push me out. it wasn't intolerable at all. it's just that you know, it's just suboptimal and then an opportunity know i was aware of the university of buckingham

wanting to be a free speech university, and i kind of kicked it around for a number of years at birkbeck, then went into a sort of a financial difficulties with redundancy program. i with a redundancy program. i thought, now if i'm ever going to do this, it's now and then eventually i kind of signed with buckingham and what i'm doing there is kind of an off piste university to say , well, let's university to say, well, let's do some things that are difficult to do in a regular university. let us have have a 15 week course on wokeness online, which is now a public onune online, which is now a public online course, which i'm launching in january . let's set launching in january. let's set up a centre for heterodox social science. so we're going to look at questions that are neglected or where you're only allowed one point of view right? so if we consider something like a race or gender gap , you know, it or gender gap, you know, it could be caused by structural discrimination, but equally that might not be the reason. and we have allowed to have to be allowed to investigate the other reasons that the majority that in fact maybe the majority of the explanation that's an example of where there is only

one. >> it won't make skin colour. for example, the key metric necessarily, but actually an overview of all of the data and all the information you can gather. >> yeah, let's have a clash of ideas and open. that's what's supposed viewpoint, supposed to happen. viewpoint, diversity. win diversity. the best ideas win out testing out over time through testing measurement. all ideas are on the table and you just go by what the data says. and that's not what's happening in a lot of these hot button issues. >> drill into some of >> so let's drill into some of these specific aspects of woke ideology, because i think overall it's cancel culture. it's a lack of freedom of speech and freedom of expression, which is problem. these are is a huge problem. and these are the which are deployed. the tools which are deployed. but within that you've got things like critic race theory. now this is the diametric opposite of martin luther king. judge me by the content of my character, not the colour of my skin. so what what is critical race theory and why is that as an example, something that needs to be looked at, looked at, because being taught as because it's being taught as fact in schools and unis, isn't it? >> it? a it? » m >> yeah, there is a sort of assumption there's assumption that whenever there's assumption that whenever there's a disparity , it might in

a race disparity, it might be in grades. people grades. the number of people getting be the getting a stars, it might be the number admitted. number of people being admitted. whenever there is a race disparity that is evidence of some kind of discrimination. right and of course, we don't say that about gypsy and irish travellers versus jews . you travellers versus jews. you know, if there is an achievement gap there, we don't immediately jump gap there, we don't immediately jump to poor white kids who have the worst outcomes in terms of going university. going to university. >> ? >> right? >> right? >> some about skin >> so on some it's about skin colour when it when it suits the narrative times when colour when it when it suits the nan not e times when colour when it when it suits the narinot right. times when colour when it when it suits the narinot right. so times when colour when it when it suits the narinot right. so we'reies when colour when it when it suits the narinot right. so we're notvhen it's not right. so we're not going nigerians going to compare nigerians and west indians, so we'll only compare on certain categories, on dimensions that are on certain dimensions that are politically salient . and the one politically salient. and the one thatis politically salient. and the one that is politically salient, of course, is, is race a black white gap, for example? now the critical race theorists would always argue whenever there's a gap kind gap that's evidence of some kind of matrix of structural discrimination , and we can't discrimination, and we can't quite we can't quite quite touch it. we can't quite measure when you can't measure it. when you can't measure it. when you can't measure and touch it. measure something and touch it. that's ideology . it's that's called an ideology. it's called unfalsifiable. not called unfalsifiable. it's not scientific . so one of the big scientific. so one of the big arguments is that this is really not serious not not a serious it's pseudoscience . but and yet it's

pseudoscience. but and yet it's sort of insinuated itself as the kind of ideology and a kind of ideology and you're a bad you adopt it. >> so if you question it, university of buckingham and of course, sure there course, i'm sure there are elements wisdom within elements of wisdom within it. let's test it out. let's let's measure it. expose it. so, look, the university of buckingham and how many undergraduates are there? well, this university , there? well, this university, yeah, it's not a large university. >> it's only got about 3000, just over 3000 undergraduates. it's one of the few private universities in in the uk . it's one of the few private universities in in the uk. but it has, you know, it scored top in the national student survey this year for freedom of expression . that's an indication expression. that's an indication that it expression. that's an indication thatitis expression. that's an indication that it is a freer place at the student level. >> and i think you're doing an important job for society because we certainly don't want kids to go to uni and be brainwashed into ideas. and it sounds like your about sounds like your course is about opening minds, telling opening their minds, not telling them to think. them what to think. >> we're to >> exactly. we're going to analyse and analyse this objectively and there's going to be all views on there's going to be all views on the table , but we're not going the table, but we're not going to off lines of inquiry. >> does it worry you that young

people illiberal people have become so illiberal and so closed minded and actually so authoritarian in some cases with cancel culture? >> it really does. and this is shown in survey after survey. i mean, for example , well, roughly mean, for example, well, roughly half of under 25, 18 to 25in half of the under 25, 18 to 25in this country, say jk rowling should be dropped by your publishers. half say no, they're split. whereas amongst the over 50, like only say 50, it's like only 3 or 4% say she should dropped . that's she should be dropped. that's just one indication. there are a number of other questions. so by a to 1 margin, they think a 2 to 1 margin, they think protecting from hostile protecting people from hostile speech, protecting marginalised groups from hostile speech is more important than protecting free speech. again, another that's come out in a number of recent surveys. so we have a generation that sort goes to generation that sort of goes to safety first, than to safety first, more than to freedom of speech. >> and what's misunderstood is that there are many on the left who wokeism and i've had who detest wokeism and i've had ex—labour mps in the studio who are concerned about levels of migration into the country because of the impact on communities and all the rest of it. you know , who have unworked it. you know, who have unworked views, but who are wing. views, but who are left wing. so

this is a is a very this wokeism is a is a very unique subset, isn't it? >> yeah, there's two real factors. one is age. so old leftists are a lot more tolerant than young leftists, twice as tolerant . so older leftists are tolerant. so older leftists are more pro free speech. and then you have a sort of old economic marxist left , which you have a sort of old economic marxist left, which is you have a sort of old economic marxist left , which is generally marxist left, which is generally in very anti the in some cases very anti the identity left, but that's fading and more if you go towards younger people, they're mostly on board the cultural left . on board the cultural left. >> but the woke mind virus, a term coined by elon musk , will term coined by elon musk, will be defeated. is it here to stay ? >> it's we're only at the beginning and it's going to grow. i think, you know, we've had a wave of energy that peaked around 2020, 21. we've got very good data on cancellations and such, but it's still at a much more elevated level than prior to the 2010s. and because the younger generations are more woke as they become the median voter, we should expect this thing bigger and not thing to be bigger and not smaller. there's a lot to thing to be bigger and not smalfor there's a lot to thing to be bigger and not smalfor . there's a lot to play for. >> if there are people watching or that would like to

or listening that would like to participate this course, participate in this course, how would doing that? would they go about doing that? >> my >> so if you just go to my twitter which is at epc, twitter handle, which is at epc, a ufm, epc , if you go to the a ufm, epc, if you go to the pinned tweet, you can check out the course if you're interested . you can express interest. and we're starting in january, so hopefully some will want to join. >> brilliant. and i guess if they eric kaufmann on they google eric kaufmann on twitter, it'll come up as well. yeah. they me yeah. if they google me on twitter, it'll up. twitter, it'll come up. >> got website, >> i've also got a website, snepsts . net sneps dot net. oh, snepsts. net sneps dot net. oh, that's easy to remember. >> sneps dot net. yeah brilliant stuff. good luck with good luck with thanks with the course. thanks very much, to much, mark. more power to you now university now. a birkbeck university spokesman has said birkbeck is committed to free, robust and open debate all members of open debate among all members of the college community. has the college community. it has policies enable policies in place to enable free speech procedures to speech and procedures to investigate act on concerns. investigate and act on concerns. should it be notified of these. professor kaufman left birkbeck at his own request as part of a restructure support thing. the reorganisation of our academic departments . professor eric departments. professor eric kaufman, thank you so much.

coming up, the government are expected to confirm the axing of the second leg of hs2 from birmingham . is this a betrayal birmingham. is this a betrayal of the north? my panel returned to debate that shortly. but next, as nigel farage appears at tory party to conference a rapturous should the rapturous reception, should the right come together to keep keir starmer out of number 10, i'll be asking richard tice tice, leader uk . he's

n ext next time now for the leader of reform uk. and i'm delighted to say gb news star richard tice tice and the tory conference officially kicked off yesterday with a surprise guest attending the conservative democratic organisation's plush dinner with mps and deep pocketed donors. our own ben leo went to have a nose around the gathering, which aims to restore democracy to the party in the wake of rishi sunak becoming prime minister. despite being rejected by members. >> hello. hello how are you? how

are you? are you well? >> well, indeed. >> well, indeed. >> ben, you're here at a tory event tonight. i know. it's the first lurching back the event tonight. i know. it's the first fold. ing back the tory fold. >> tory event to >> the last tory event i went to would be. you weren't born in 19 1887. probably well, i was invited by somebody who thought . wouldn't it be great mischief if up ? and i . wouldn't it be great mischief if up? and i quite if i turned up? and i quite looking fonnard seeing some if i turned up? and i quite lottheg fonnard seeing some if i turned up? and i quite lottheg fonneid seeing some if i turned up? and i quite lottheg fofwii suspecting some if i turned up? and i quite lottheg fofwii suspect thesome of the faces. i suspect the majority of people at this dinner would agree will agree with a lot of what i say. >> nigel farage is here tonight. what's that sign what's that a sign of? >> i think is a sign of the >> i think this is a sign of the fact we want stop laboun >> we work together here. >> there are a lot of people here i think been here that i think have been quite disillusioned in past, quite disillusioned in the past, but to just move fonnard but we have to just move fonnard and of a labour and the prospect of a labour government is something that will unite everyone . will unite everyone. >> i did like nigel's bow tie. there's only one person that looks better in a bow tie. it is richard tice richard, great to see you. do you think there is a way that the right can come together to keep starmer out of number 10 that doesn't dilute the reform uk votes ?

the reform uk votes? >> well, the reality is , mark, >> well, the reality is, mark, that the tories have become con socialists. >> they're the same coin, the same socialist coin as keir starmer. >> high tax, high regulation , >> high tax, high regulation, euanne >> high tax, high regulation, elianne low growth . if they want elianne low growth. if they want to come and join us in a proper low tax , smartly regulated, high low tax, smartly regulated, high growth agenda, fine. >> but they are a country mile from that . that is absolutely clear. >> nigel was enjoying the mischief that he was creating there. >> it was interesting , mark, to >> it was interesting, mark, to hear priti patel believe in a number of occasions she kept referring to the need for reform . well, i agree there is a need for reform . for reform. >> frankly, we need to be absolutely in the centre position, making the argument. >> the reality is, mark, that the tories have been they've been nibbling at some of our policies , they've been nibbling policies, they've been nibbling at our very sensible policy to scrap net zero. they've been nibbling at our very sensible policy to scrap the whole of hs2 and we've been pro abolishing

the whole of inheritance tax for years. >> so all of these things is because actually they're worried about progress. >> we're making the common sense that we talk, but they just can't quite get themselves there i >> -- >> is there any kind of arrangement that can happen with the conservatives and potentially ukip ? no and does potentially ukip? no and does that not guarantee keir starmer in number 10 inches a year's time ? ti me? >> time? >> no, not at all. actually what what i say to people is, listen , vote for what you believe in, not what you're afraid of. >> democracy is better when people have got more choices, more debate. >> we make progress. >> that's how we make progress. but all of this, mark, is about getting we getting towards what we must have country, which is have in this country, which is fair votes, equal votes. we must get proportional representation. and here's the irony, mark. if the tories actually wanted to avoid losing the next election, the best thing they could do before this forthcoming election is to go for proportional representation . representation. >> even then, we'd be into a very different ball game.

>> look, pr is the right way fonnard. first past post. fonnard. first past the post. it's tainted, it's unfair , and it's tainted, it's unfair, and we've got to move towards proportional representation. however a real seat at the table, richard , if you talk table, richard, if you talk about pr, first of all, that's hung parliaments forever and we don't have a great track record of hung parliaments in this country. >> also, don't you more or less have sort of centre left, administered options forever, given the fact that you'd have the snp votes , lib dem and the snp votes, lib dem and labour, the snp votes, lib dem and labour , the right would never labour, the right would never get in and that's what this conversation is about. it's about the rights. >> mark you need to just look to wales where under a devolved system with proportional representation , labour have held power. >> look to scotland where under proportional representation the snp have held power. look to italy, where giorgia meloni went from 4% to 27% and being prime minister competitions. good mark. you believe in competition? so do i. we need disruptors, new people able to get into politics, creating good

ideas with proper, sensible , ideas with proper, sensible, common sense politics. that's what we stand for at reform. >> mark however , if you perform >> mark however, if you perform strongly at the next election, which will impact the conservatives more disproportionately because you're on on the right side of the spectrum , will you feel the spectrum, will you feel guilty if labour are in charge for five years? will it keep you awake at night knowing that you had a in that ? had a hand in that? >> look, mark, as i say , i think >> look, mark, as i say, i think that we need to move towards proportional representation. whatever will be will be, but i'm not doing any deals. we did that last with the that last time with the conservative party. them that last time with the thhance,ive party. them that last time with the thhance, frankly v. them that last time with the thhance, frankly , them that last time with the thhance, frankly , they them that last time with the thhance, frankly , they wastedem a chance, frankly, they wasted it. they blew it. they've had their chance. arguably it's the tories who, having messed it up, they be standing aside. they should be standing aside. let me take on keir starmer and i'll absolutely knock him for six mark. >> i predict a hung parliament at the next election . richard i at the next election. richard i think that shares in sunak are too low. shares in starmer are too low. shares in starmer are too high. i wonder where the proportional representation might come sooner than many expect . expect. >> i've been saying to people,

anybody who'll listen, i think we'll have it within three years of now. that would be fantastic. and if it requires a referendum, fine . we're quite good at fine. we're quite good at referendums . we've got referendums actually. we've got a record of winning them. a track record of winning them. mark lead mark so i'm delighted to lead that . absolutely. you that as well. absolutely. you know, want to get know, nigel might want to get involved. knows? know, nigel might want to get invn listen, knows? know, nigel might want to get invn listen, before ows? know, nigel might want to get invn listen, before we? know, nigel might want to get invn listen, before we go, can i >> listen, before we go, can i congratulate you joining the congratulate you on joining the gb family? i'm genuinely gb news family? i'm genuinely delighted you're i delighted that you're here. i think honest very think you're an honest man, very authentic a great guy as authentic man, a great guy as well. you enjoying it? are well. are you enjoying it? are you enjoying your days you enjoying your first few days at gb news? >> absolutely. i've had a very exciting time. >> was delighted to be able to host show in his absence host nigel's show in his absence last we talked about last week, and we talked about some really, really big important issues . so yeah, important issues. so yeah, really fonnard to really looking fonnard to carrying on with a great team. well try not to get suspended and a great time. and you'll have a great time. >> let me tell you, richard, why did gb news? did you join gb news? >> because , mark i'll tell you >> because, mark i'll tell you why. because actually i'm up in sunderland tonight and wherever i've been going, more and more people, they say to me, i've seen you on tv, i've seen you on

gb news this evening. five people came up to me leaving from the train station to the hotel, said , hi, you. see hotel, said, hi, it's you. i see you on gb news keep up the good stuff. a real thing. stuff. that's a real thing. i tell the exponential tell you, mark, the exponential growth of gb is a joy to growth of gb news is a joy to behold for everybody involved. it's going from strength to strength . strength. >> a brilliant on the >> a brilliant new star on the channel >> a brilliant new star on the channel, richard , welcome to channel, richard, welcome to the family. stuff . your family. fascinating stuff. your reaction, mark cbnnews.com . reaction, mark at cbnnews.com. coming up, labour celebrates coming up, as labour celebrates their election victory too soon, we'll get the views of iconic polling guru sir john we'll get the views of iconic polling guru sirjohn curtis. what he doesn't know about the polls. you don't need to know bona fide icon. he's crunched the numbers as well. he will predict the outcome of the next election, but next in a developing story, the government are expected to confirm the axing of second leg of hs2 axing of the second leg of hs2 from is this a from birmingham. is this a decision that is a betrayal of the . north south evening ? the. north south evening? >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news bright and breezy sums up tomorrow a

bit grey start in the south bit of a grey start in the south and be showers, and it will be some showers, particularly across the north and it will be some showers, partthearly across the north and it will be some showers, partthe west.:ross the north and it will be some showers, partthe west. overnightorth and it will be some showers, partthe west. overnight some and the west. overnight some pretty heavy rain moving in. a very soggy one there right very soggy one out there right now this area low now thanks to this area of low pressure. intense pressure. some intense downpours, even the odd rumble of thunder likely over the midlands and eastern parts of england the next few hours england over the next few hours could very indeed for could be very wet indeed for a time of norfolk time across parts of norfolk especially. but that all tends to scoot away through the early hours . many places will become hours. many places will become dry , certainly across scotland dry, certainly across scotland and some clear and northern ireland. some clear spells, chilly here, spells, a little chilly here, down to single figures, but staying mild across the staying quite mild across the south. temperatures may stay in the in the capital, but the teens in the capital, but quite grey start tuesday . quite a grey start to tuesday. still some outbreaks rain quite a grey start to tuesday. still the|e outbreaks rain quite a grey start to tuesday. still the|e ou'midlands rain quite a grey start to tuesday. still the|e ou'midlands ,�*ain quite a grey start to tuesday. still the|e ou'midlands , east over the east midlands, east anglia and the south—east potentially still around for the rush hour. grey gradually pulling through the pulling away through the morning, skies, morning, then brighter skies, showers for western scotland, parts of northern england, a few for wales and northern ireland too. but much of the south and east dry east having a largely dry afternoon , a fresher feel. afternoon, a fresher feel. temperatures mostly in the mid teens best, and similarly on

teens at best, and similarly on wednesday , the winds a little wednesday, the winds a little lighter. on wednesday , much of lighter. on wednesday, much of central and eastern england looking dry and bright, but more wet coming to wet weather coming in to northern scotland . and then northern scotland. and then further the further south along the west coast , that rain be quite coast, that rain could be quite heavy cause little heavy and could cause a little disruption northern disruption coming into northern ireland later on to further south, most places dry and bright, the odd and bright, just the odd shower and again, temperatures mostly in the teens

>> it's 10:00 >> it's10:00 and this is mark dolan looking after the shop for the next couple of nights. hs2 goes off the rails as the £100 billion project looks set to be torn up by rishi sunak talks swirling around the conservative party conference today suggests that hs2 us london to manchester leg will be axed by the pm, but is this a decision that is a betrayal of the north or that is the big debate with my panel. we'll debate that shortly in the company of carol malone, matthew lasar and belinda lucy . also lasar and belinda lucy. also tonight is rupert murdoch's media empire about to dramatically switch allegiance to labour? and could that decide the next election? i'll be asking fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie in uncanceled later . mackenzie in uncanceled later. elsewhere, with momentum behind rishi sunak and with the tories closing in on the polls, have labour been celebrating victory

too soon? we'll get the views of legendary polling guru sirjohn curtice . meanwhile, suella curtice. meanwhile, suella braverman , the home secretary braverman, the home secretary blasts critics such as sir elton john and gary lineker as out of touch pampered elites as it's revealed that 25,000 migrants have crossed the channel this year. so should celebrities stay out of politics and issues that only affect everyday brits? my panel return on that shortly. also, find out why father ted creator turned activist graham linehan is being lined up for a gong. when i crown tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. tomorrow's newspaper front pages are minutes away too. so lots to get through. but first, the news and polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> mark. thank you. good evening. well, the top story tonight on gb news is that the greater manchester mayor says axing the northern leg of hs2 would be the desperate act of a

dying government. that as number 10 has told gb news tonight that no decision has been taken yet . no decision has been taken yet. on the line, andy burnham , on the line, andy burnham, though, called on the prime minister to end the shambles on hs2 following increased speculation about the rail project's future and a number of government ministers calling for the project to be reviewed. the chancellor , jeremy hunt, said it chancellor, jeremy hunt, said it shouldn't cost ten times more to build a railway in the uk than just across the channel in france . well, the chancellor france. well, the chancellor also today announced plans to freeze the expansion of the civil service and reduce its numbers to pre pandemic levels. dunng numbers to pre pandemic levels. during his speech at the conservative party conference in manchester today, jeremy hunt said it would save the government a billion pounds next year. meanwhile the chancellor announced tougher benefits , announced tougher benefits, sanctions on those who are capable of working but choose not to. and he announced a national living wage rise to £11 an hour. we promised in our manifesto to raise the national living wage to two thirds of

median income from ending low pay median income from ending low pay in this country. >> we at the moment it's £10.42 an hour, and we're waiting for the low pay commission to tell us next year's recommendation. but i confirm today, whatever that recommendation, we'll increase the national living wage to at least £11 an hour next year . that's a pay rise for next year. that's a pay rise for 2 million workers. >> well, the former prime minister has called on the chancellor to cut corporation tax from 25 back to 19% in his next autumn statement. speaking at a fringe rally earlier on today, the former prime minister urged the tory leadership to axe that tax cut bills and build homes. her comments came after jeremy hunt told gb news no substantial tax cuts were possible this year . substantial tax cuts were possible this year. this substantial tax cuts were possible this year . this trust, possible this year. this trust, though, said businesses are choosing not to locate in the uk and they shouldn't be treated like a cash cow . now away from like a cash cow. now away from politics, a second police force is investigating allegations

against the comedian russell brand. in a statement, thames valley police said it had received new information relating to harassment and stalking allegations dating back to 2018. the police force added it would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation , which follows a investigation, which follows a joint investigation by the sunday times and channel 4. russell brand denies all accusations of criminality . and accusations of criminality. and if you haven't already felt it, thunderstorms are set to batter the country this evening. it comes as the met office has issued a yellow weather warning for areas right across the uk from manchester and birmingham, right down to london. and southampton. there are currently two dozen flood warnings in place as well, mainly in east anglia . and the met office has anglia. and the met office has warned of intense downpours, lightning and gusty winds, downpours also expected for the rest of the week with yellow storm warnings over parts of the uk until friday. here with gb

news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . thank thanks, polly. >> tonight's news tonight in our sorry tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz, let's kick off with the very first look at the front pages . and we start with front pages. and we start with it's bank robbery . rishi sunak it's bank robbery. rishi sunak was accused of pulling the plug on the north as claims the hs2 rail project from birmingham to manchester has been cancelled , manchester has been cancelled, overshadowing the tory conference. mayor burnham's fury as hs2 to end at birmingham. but number 10 insists nothing is settled. sunak accused of cancelling the future with climbdown over hs2 and trump gained $1 billion from fraud . a gained $1 billion from fraud. a court hears . okay, what was that

court hears. okay, what was that young matthew ? okay, brilliant young matthew? okay, brilliant stuff. okay folks, now let's get reaction from my wonderful pundits. i'm delighted to welcome daily express columnist carole malone, former labour party adviser matthew lazar, and ex—brexit party mep belinda de lucy. now the rumours have been swirling for some time in rishi sunak appears to be set on scrapping the northern leg of hs2 . the high speed rail line hs2. the high speed rail line has been racking up enormous costs of at least £71 billion and according to reports , the pm and according to reports, the pm will announce it won't run between birmingham and manchester. unfortunate timing given that this week sunak is attending tory party conference and making his speech on wednesday in in manchester. downing street, however, have denied the report, saying no final decisions have been taken. matthew has the north just been cancelled ? cancelled? >> absolutely. i think the metro has got it . it >> absolutely. i think the metro has got it. it is a bank robbery . i'm a manc, i'm a mancunian and i mean, first of all, forget

whether the policy is right or not. it's just look at the politics of it. going to to manchester them they're not manchester tell them they're not going line going to get their railway line is portsmouth is like going to portsmouth and telling to telling the navy it's about to lose its ships . i mean, lose half its ships. i mean, it's bad politics. it's it's pretty bad politics. it's pretty optics. look we pretty bad optics. look we wouldn't start from here with hs2 if we were post pandemic people working from home. yes patterns of travel have changed. so i can see why people get sceptical and yes , we sceptical about it. and yes, we do east west link do need the east west link across we've across the north, but we've started . we need to finish across the north, but we've stalfed . we need to finish across the north, but we've sta if we . we need to finish across the north, but we've sta if we onlye need to finish across the north, but we've sta if we only do zed to finish across the north, but we've sta if we only do halfo finish across the north, but we've sta if we only do half ofinish across the north, but we've sta if we only do half of it.;h it. if we only do half of it. it's international laughing it's an international laughing stock that this hst stock given that this hst project began under new labour and tony blair on behalf of labour, would you now like to apologise to all of viewers apologise to all of my viewers and because in and listeners? no, because in 2000 when andrew gwynne it was talked about by andrew adonis, who was the last labour transport it transport secretary, it was, it was actually given the green light by the tories. >> he's right. it >> it actually he's right. it was, was given green was, it was given the green light osborne. light by cameron and osborne. yeah. was yeah. but it was a, it was a blair brainchild blair blair brain brainchild wasn't it. wasn't it was, it was blair's grand project. he'd gone in 2008 who said it would be a great idea. they wanted to have

the of having the the prestige of having the fastest line in europe . fastest train line in europe. and osborne at the time said it was going to cost something like 15.5 and be finished 15.5 billion and be finished by 2027. what a joke. so, far , i 2027. what a joke. so, so far, i think this is a bullet dodged by everyone, including the norman. we've got to stop pretending that the north are going to be cut the world. cut off from the world. no, they're lot they're not. and i think a lot of northern like rest of northern people like the rest of northern people like the rest of us, will be relieved that we're to have bear of us, will be relieved that we'ienormous to have bear of us, will be relieved that we'ienormous cost have bear of us, will be relieved that we'ienormous cost ofve bear of us, will be relieved that we'ienormous cost of this. bear the enormous cost of this. we're told going it told now it's going to be it would about 100 would have been about 100 billion if it carried on. it would more that. would be more than that. it would be more than that. it would more that . would be much more than that. but line is this was but the bottom line is this was a vanity project by cameron and osborne. it was it was it was greenlighted by boris as well. and but sunak was always he always said , you know, the cost always said, you know, the cost was ridiculous . and what do you was ridiculous. and what do you think? just let me read out this, that i read this. this is incredible. the current estimates of it was going to cost per kilometre cost £200 million per kilometre to build this, whereas as fast train lines in europe were going to cost £25 million a kilometre to cost £25 million a kilometre

to build. so what are we thinking of? you know, this the cost benefit of this was never properly looked at and it's spiralling out of control before a single kilometre of track has been laid. yeah this is this is they've dodged a financial bullet. >> belinda we've seen disastrous procurement from whitehall in terms of the military. gordon brown with nuclear, no, it was the, the, the flight carriers, the, the, the flight carriers, the aircraft carriers, yeah. you know, those sorts of things that would prove to be defunct by the time they were made. and also politicians time they were made. and also politiciarin infrastructure, involved in infrastructure, should they? >> i loved the headline >> well, i loved the headline you read out. like, we've you read out. it was like, we've cancelled north's future, cancelled the north's future, the is going to be out of the hs2 is going to be out of date by the time it gets built. all this money just for slightly faster air trains. what people want are more frequent trains. they want trains that run on time. they want there to be less strikes. if you ask the everyday , you know, joe bloggs the , you know, joe bloggs on the street, they're not obsessing over they want better over hs2. they just want better train . one not train services quicker. one not ones come more often. you

ones that come more often. you know, when i get the train , i know, when i get the train, i don't drive. i'm a train girl don't drive. so i'm a train girl and amount of strikes and and the amount of strikes and delays and waiting, that's what people about. this is a people care about. this is a total vanity project. it's throwing good money after bad. >> and it's all i can see where you're but we you're both coming from. but we need because. need to finish it because. because doing because what you're doing hundred billion. >> want throw good money >> you want to throw good money after bad, which is classic labour, not losses of 20 billion. >> we haven't laid a single piece of track yet. >> we have built a lot of tunnels, though not a single piece the moment. but piece of at the moment. but carol, moment link carol, at the moment the link to birmingham take birmingham is going to take longer the existing train longer than the existing train line you line and it's to going dump you in fringes of in neasden on the fringes of london, where before . we london, where you before. we waste another £100 million, we can. but he's not to going do that. he's not saying he's going to the the on the to pull the plug on the on the existing finish existing he's going to finish half basically half of it, which is basically pointless finishing pointless rather than finishing the course, pointless rather than finishing the he course, pointless rather than finishing the he is course, pointless rather than finishing the he is put course, pointless rather than finishing the he is put the|rse, pointless rather than finishing the he is put the money what he may do is put the money into infrastructure into other infrastructure projects, in the projects, wait and see in the north, you believe north, you can't believe anything . anything he says. >> well, to get >> well, he wants to get re—elected the north of re—elected in the north of england, million into england, £1 million into projects in the north, which is

you're pushing for hs2, demonstrating that labour have a problem with wasting money. yes, absolutely. there you on absolutely. there you are on record throwing good money after bad. know what a debacle. bad. we know what a debacle. >> had a labour government >> if we had a labour government we wouldn't have spent 100 billion it. billion on it. >> putting money billion on it. >> black putting money billion on it. >> black pall,1g money billion on it. >> black pall, mark, money on black not at all, mark, because if we'd had a labour government we wouldn't be here. >> project >> we'd have had the project would finished hello would be finished by now. hello just the socialists just as just as the socialists built the tgv in france , built the tgv in france, mitterrand, the tgv, tony les id scheme, we need a couple. >> or turning the nhs digital. how did go? how did that go? >> it was. it was. it >> well. well it was. it was. it started the nhs digital . it's started the nhs digital. it's under the tories. they're still let alone lay around. i'm glad it's 10:00. i'm glad it's it's after 10:00. i'm glad it's after 10:00 because on the nhs digitalisation, the nhs is still using fax machines. i'll remind you, had 13 of using fax machines. i'll remind y(tory had 13 of using fax machines. i'll remind y(tory governmentad 13 of using fax machines. i'll remind y(tory government ,d 13 of using fax machines. i'll remind y(tory government , okay, of using fax machines. i'll remind y(tory government , okay, 13 of a tory government, okay, 13 years when they could deliver his cancelling their own money that . it's, you that they've wasted. it's, you know, you can't blame know, you can't, you can't blame everything labour. you're everything on labour. you're something snp blaming something like this snp blaming heavily on the english cancel it haven't billion then haven't wasted 20 billion then cancel wasted 150

cancel it having wasted 150 billion and it's we are being laughed at internationally . laughed at internationally. >> whether you >> i wonder carol whether you are using my viewers are patronised using my viewers and the north who and listeners in the north who would like a farage. how was northern? >> you know what? >> you know what? >> you know what? >> northern for years. >> think northerners are very >> i think northerners are very sensible people. no, >> i think northerners are very sensible people. n0, is not >> i think northerners are very sensii:been ople. n0, is not >> i think northerners are very sensii:been to .e. n0, is not >> i think northerners are very sensii:been to n0, is not never been to. >> that's where you live. >> that's where you live. >> no. >> no. >> whoops. >> whoops. >> northerners are way >> i think northerners are way more sensible than we give them credit for and they will be thinking a thinking we've dodged a financial ability because they will bear cost of will have to bear the cost of this. the way everyone else in the and oh, the country and you know, oh, poor got poor little north, we've got to save money for north. save money for the north. >> this insult to >> can we? this is an insult to my north. my viewers in the north. >> point as that >> make the point as well that all major megxit, all of all of our major megxit, all of our major cities are about 2.5 hours apart. we don't need to spend £150 billion to save 30. >> but it's a message, isn't it? and that's a problem for sunak on wednesday. the message is the north is not worth it doesn't merit this infrastructure . merit this infrastructure. >> no, because i think they're going to up with going to come up with a delicious dish of goodies for the north saying this is where we're the we're going to redirect the money, buses and the money, a few more buses and the

whole of bus whole thing, a couple of bus stops with nimby stops in wigan with nimby for nothing. typical in stops in wigan with nimby for nothack typical in stops in wigan with nimby for nothack yard typical in stops in wigan with nimby for nothack yard that'sical in stops in wigan with nimby for nothack yard that's delayed n my back yard that's delayed it and not to work and stop. it's not going to work out, think. your losses out, i think. cut your losses and run you save money. and run. you save money. >> belinda how you here and run. you save money. >> londona how you here and run. you save money. >> london saying you here and run. you save money. >>london saying jnorth here in london saying the north don't need hst? >> girl. how can you? >> you're the only southerner and you live in islington . and you live in islington. >> i, i will say that i'm split on hs2 . i am >> i, i will say that i'm split on hs2. i am split on it, and i do. but i think it's unaffordable . but i would say unaffordable. but i would say that every penny saved must go to the north. i agree. >> i agree. i agree. we agree on that. >> we all agree on that. >> we all agree on that. >> let's hope. and he >> yeah. let's hope. and if he says let's him to it. says that, let's hold him to it. >> let's not habit >> let's let's not make a habit of this of it. it's not what this show is this is the home is about. this show is the home of diverse opinion. what do you think, i'm think, though? actually, i'm going decide. it going to let you decide. is it right hs2 from right to scrap hs2 from birmingham? is it a betrayal of the north market? gbnews.com do email me. it comes straight to this as my laptop comes straight to coming suella to it. now coming up, suella braverman blasts critics such as elton john. he's still standing. and gary lineker and she called them out—of—touch pampered elites as it's revealed at

25,000 migrants have crossed the channel this year. so should rich celebrities stay out of politics and issues that only affect everyday brits? my superstar panel debate that later. let's be honest, they're celebrities, too . what do they celebrities, too. what do they know ? and next, with momentum know? and next, with momentum behind rishi sunak and the tories closing in on the polls, have labour celebrated victory too soon? we'll get the views of legendary polling guru sirjohn curtis. he's

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highlight of the show is always your emails. >> mark gb news dot com and you've got me chuckling away. well, serious and well, first a serious one. and this is from anne marie in middlesbrough. how are you? anne marie anne marie says yes, marie anne marie says mark yes, cancelling is an insult to cancelling hs2 is an insult to the north and the tory promise to level up. we have an appalling service appalling railway service compared european compared to other european countries. we get our countries. why can't we get our railway right ? countries. why can't we get our railway right? it and sam railway system right? it and sam has said , mark, scrap the thing. has said, mark, scrap the thing. sam's not pulling his punches and he says that's coming from a northerner . we don't need trains northerner. we don't need trains up here. we just nick a car. only joking, says sammy , listen, only joking, says sammy, listen, keep those emails coming . mark keep those emails coming. mark at gb news dot com kelvin mackenzie later tonight. but first, sir keir starmer's chances of getting into number 10 looked nailed on not too long ago. bombshell new polling, however, revealed that labour's lead over the conservatives has narrowed to ten points and it

comes after rishi sunak took an axe to a series of net zero commitments amid concerns about costs for struggling households. well, joining me now to discuss this is the legendary polling guru, sirjohn this is the legendary polling guru, sir john curtice this is the legendary polling guru, sirjohn curtice . sir, guru, sir john curtice. sir, john, a privilege to have you back on the show. do you think that a labour victory is still nailed . on nailed. on >> no, and it's never been nailed on, but let's distinguish between a couple of different things . things. >> we have to remember that at least on the conventional ways of calculating these things and we can then debate about how necessary it's going to be true . but the labour party might need as or 13 point need as much as a 12 or 13 point lead the conservative just lead over the conservative just to a majority so to get a majority of one. so even with labour's lead at 18 points, which is what it was before sunak announcement, before mr sunak announcement, the difference between those two figures is not sufficiently great that you would say that a labour overall majority was nailed on. that, however, is very different from saying even with a ten point labour lead,

which is the lowest in any of the polls so far , that that the polls so far, that that would that the conservative would mean that the conservative would mean that the conservative would be winning election. they certainly wouldn't. just certainly wouldn't. we just would potentially in a hung would be potentially in a hung parliament with labour parliament territory with labour forming a minority administration , but wanting to administration, but wanting to make sense of this . i mean, make sense of this. i mean, yeah, it's been true . 1 or yeah, it's been true. 1 or 2 polls have shown a noticeable decline in labour's lead in the last few weeks. but the truth is we need to look at all of the evidence so yes, opinion for the lead at ten. yougov put it at 21. the average labour leader with the conservatives has supped with the conservatives has slipped a bit. it's now down to 16 points because the conservative vote is up a couple of points as compared with the position before the announcement on net zero. although we should remember that at the beginning of september conservative support did actually slip a point and even at 16 points, the labour leader with the conservatives is still a point higher than it was before the conservative party failed to get him behind the privileges

committee report that said that mr johnson had misled the house mrjohnson had misled the house of commons, the failure of which the party to do that saw labour's lead and widened quite noticeably. so yes, it's been a relative good week for the conservatives in the polls relative to where it's been , but relative to where it's been, but the progress is fairly small and i think at the moment it would too be early to come to the conclusion that it's been a fundamental change of the game as opposed to the i think, undoubtedly articulate some of the concerns that voters do have about net zero, which is how much it's going to cost them . much it's going to cost them. >> indeed. do you not think , >> indeed. do you not think, though, sir john, that the polls can be a little hard on the incumbent ? can be a little hard on the incumbent? i, i can't really remember a time in you know, in my lifetime when any particular government or or prime minister was wildly popular , perhaps was wildly popular, perhaps straight after the election, tony blair in in 1997. but once there once they're sort of into their term of office, there aren't too many popular governments. do you think that

that could change on polling day and the government get a bit of and the government get a bit of a bounce? well now let's go back actually , it's worth actually, it's worth remembering, although we now all forget that actually this government was remarkably popular for two years. >> all the way through to december 2021. the government was never behind labour in the polls and for most of that was actually ahead. but of course along came partygate and things started to change. so you know, this government was for a while popular. now i'm i think, you know, there are two things that i think any conservative could potentially hang on to. one is historically , the polls do tend historically, the polls do tend to be a little bit likely to overestimate labour, though not by sufficient to make an 18 or a 16 point lead. all of a sudden a conservative victory . it's also conservative victory. it's also true that people who voted conservative in 2019 are more likely to say to the pollsters,

i don't know what i'm going to do in the next election, and maybe they'll go back conservatives. but there's no guarantee . but i think guarantee of that. but i think the thing that above all, the conservatives have to worry aboutis conservatives have to worry about is that even with a 16 point lead, they've not really made that much progress in the last 12 months in narrowing the lead that labour acquired in the wake of liz truss's fall. mr sunak becoming prime minister. and there are now only another 12 months before the next election. so the speed of recovery has got to be much, much greater in the next 12 months. but can we rule it out? of course we can't. but it's almost , i of course we can't. but it's almost, i think, to going require the party not simply to hope that by, for example, focusing on the boats or indeed net zero, that that is going to be sufficient to get the conservatives back to a position where they might win election there. in the going to have there. in the end, going to have to deal with the tough nuts

facing government and the facing this government and the tough this tough nuts facing this government is one the economy and the living crisis and the cost of living crisis and the cost of living crisis and the cost of living crisis and the fact that many people in the electorate currently blame the electorate currently blame the government , rightly or the government, rightly or wrongly, state the wrongly, for the state of the economy and the is economy. and the second is waiting nhs . and of waiting lists in the nhs. and of course we're now in the middle of another doctors strike, of yet another doctors strike, which is not going, not making going to get the waiting list down, looking any easier. and unless those two problems are solved, i think the solved, then i think the government will find very government will find it very difficult to win the next election. >> well, sir john, i'll say it for the government should for you. the government should be held responsible the be held responsible for the state i'm be held responsible for the state as i'm be held responsible for the state as you i'm be held responsible for the state as you say, i'm be held responsible for the state as you say, if i'm be held responsible for the state as you say, if inflation m sure, as you say, if inflation comes down to around 3% by october , labour, then perhaps october, labour, then perhaps all bets are off. final question, sir john. all bets are off. final question, sirjohn. how question, sir john. how presidential question, sirjohn. how presidential are election campaigns these days in the uk? and if it's a more presidential campaign next year, does that help either party? >> well, the answer to is that sometimes they are and sometimes they are. they aren't. but they

only begin to become presidential if you if you have charismatic leaders . and the charismatic leaders. and the honest truth is, mark, i would say that neither rishi sunak nor sir keir starmer nor sir ed davey, nor indeed humza yousaf in scotland , that any of them in scotland, that any of them are charismatic politician are the two things they're relatively weak on is one commanding our attention and two, being able to craft a broad synoptic message of what they for . stand now, that's what for. stand now, that's what rishi sunak is meant to be working on, but at the moment we've seen bits and pieces and some of the bits and pieces struggling with the media, with, with about hs2 today with the stuff about hs2 today and unless one of those leaders begin to grasp the attention of the public and begin to be able to be able to give a much clearer impression of what they're about, i don't think we're going to have a presidential election campaign . presidential election campaign. >> always a thrill >> okay. listen, always a thrill to have you on the show. the absolute guru, the mecca of political polling . sirjohn, i'm

political polling. sirjohn, i'm just on the paddy power website at the moment are the other websites are available. william hill, please gamble responsibly . ladbrokes i'm just going to ask you a simple question. the date and result of the next election, please. >> the date the next general >> the date of the next general election, i think will be the last thursday in october before the back. um as for the clocks go back. um as for the clocks go back. um as for the outcome , well, i think the the outcome, well, i think the labour party are ovennhelming favourites to form an administration , but whether it administration, but whether it will be a majority administration or a minority administration or a minority administration , that is where administration, that is where the principal land of uncertainty lies and one of the reasons i say that, mark, is nothing to do with the potential outcome of the election. the truth the truth is that unless the conservatives have about 320 seats, they won't be able to get a king's speech through the house because the house of commons because the liberal house of commons because the liberavote for a conservative won't vote for a conservative minority administration and probably the dup won't either. >> sir john, great to probably the dup won't either. >> sirjohn, great to have probably the dup won't either. >> sir john, great to have you on the show. look fonnard to catching soon. thanks catching up soon. my thanks to sir , by the way. i sir john curtis, by the way. i would never encourage anybody to

gamble. not gamble because gamble. i do not gamble because i'm already skint and it would make things worse and mrs. dolan would be furious with me . but make things worse and mrs. dolan would be furious with me. but i don't mind a sportsman's bet. you that is? that's you know what that is? that's where you just have a bet without there without money. so look. there you you think? do you go. what do you think? do you go. what do you think? do you john curtis you go. what do you think? do you the john curtis you go. what do you think? do you the election john curtis you go. what do you think? do you the election will|n curtis you go. what do you think? do you the election will beiurtis you go. what do you think? do you the election will be intis that the election will be in october will labour october and it will be a labour victory in one form or another? mark gbnews.com. your mark gb news.com. your predictions mark gbnews.com. your predictions for the next election coming up in uncanceled is rupert murdoch's media empire about to dramatically switch allegiance to labour and could that decide the next election ? that decide the next election? i'll be asking fleet street icon kelvin mackenzie, who's also got some strong views about the striking doctors. he's too hot to handle tonight. he's uncancelled shortly. but next in the media, buzz suella braverman blasts celebrity critics such as elton john and gary lineker as out of touch pampered elites as it's revealed that 25,000 migrants have crossed the channel this year. so should celebs like elton john and

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radio. >> great to have your company mark dolan looking after the shop for the next couple of nights. i hope you are well. the email is mark at gbnews.com. do get your thoughts to me. let's return to tomorrow's news tonight our media buzz and tonight in our media buzz and more. front pages have been delivered . and young matthew has delivered. and young matthew has given me the eye newspaper tory rebels and grows as pm scraps hs2 in the north. rishi sunak faces growing tory backlash as he prepares to axe the second phase of hs2, something we've been debating very shortly. tory, of west midlands , tory, mayor of west midlands, andy street, pledged. i will andy street, has pledged. i will not let hs2 go without a fight while the former home secretary priti patel warns a drastic move

like this will lead to serious questions for the . pm okay, now questions for the. pm okay, now let's look at the mail newspaper. britain is the best country to be black in, says kemi badenoch . we see people, kemi badenoch. we see people, not labels , says minister. in not labels, says minister. in rousing speech on race, gender and brexit. and the business secretary used a tubthumping speech to blast labour over its woke views and for using brexit to repeatedly talk down britain. she lashed out over trans rights remain a defeatism and the pace of reaching green targets as future conservative party leader. i wonder, belinda suella no . kemi badenoch. no. kemi badenoch. >> kemi well, yes, except i don't think she's necessarily got the hugest respect when she dismissed all the eu regulations that were supposed to be getting burnt and she sort of, you know, i love kemi, not a brexiteer, she's not brexiteer enough, a bonfire. i was like, it wasn't about. yeah, the bonfire were

expected was more like a piffle of smoke. and lost a little of smoke. and i lost a little bit of respect for kemi over that. but i love what she says. suella is probably more my cup of tea. >> i've got to say, i would i would bite your hand off kemi badenoch to be the leader of this country, but i'll this country, but maybe i'll have wait a few years. have to wait a few years. >> leader the opposition >> the leader of the opposition , after next election? , mark, after the next election? >> probably right. don't yourself . i right. don't yourself. i might >> don't kid yourself. i might said that. >> meanwhile, rishi sunak off to california . california. >> still got the green card. >> still got the green card. >> thank you very much. ka ching, ching. okay. daily ching, ka ching. okay. daily express . i'm ching, ka ching. okay. daily express. i'm big trouble ching, ka ching. okay. daily express . i'm big trouble with express. i'm big trouble with the team and we've got a show to do folks. do here, folks. >> join ourselves too much. >> join ourselves too much. >> let tell you, that's >> let me tell you, that's not what for. daily what you're here for. the daily express rishi's path to victory by what's best for by delivering what's best for britain. my little britain. sounds like my little manifesto at the start of the show, it? rishi show, doesn't it? oh, rishi sunak of sunak is planning a series of bold announcements that will sunak is planning a series of bold .on ouncements that will sunak is planning a series of bold .on ouncen best that will sunak is planning a series of bold .on ouncen best font will focus on what's best for britain. pitch himself to britain. he'll pitch himself to voters change candidate, voters as the change candidate, willing to tough decisions willing to take tough decisions such as ditching the next stage of hs2. also briefly, sorry, folks, just to say hunt saves £1

billion. axing woke civil service jobs. the sun newspaper poor old shirley ballas . she poor old shirley ballas. she says that death threats from trolls have left her scared to leave her home. the star reveals the increasingly violent and sexual messages have left her constantly on guard , and she can constantly on guard, and she can never relax for fear. the trolls are lurking in dark corners or hiding behind walls. it's changed my life completely . paul changed my life completely. paul shirley is wonderful lady and shirley is a wonderful lady and she really shouldn't be going through okay. those are through this. okay. those are your front pages. let's get reaction now from our fantastic panel reaction now from our fantastic panel, daily express columnist, the slimline carole malone. >> it's not slimmers. you love that. >> now we also have the very svelte let me tell you, i would i would speculate a 31 waist, probably 34 inside leg. oh so much to much speculation . much to much speculation. >> sadly, not now. i wish for 40 chest matthew lazor , thank you. chest matthew lazor, thank you. >> and i can't offer any numbers. she's just perfect. it's former brexit party mep

belinda. >> i was breathing in there going, oh, what's he got it there? >> you can only do with boys now. yes. yeah, that's it. you're ground. you're a much safer ground. >> to watch >> i'm going. i'm going to watch my get my back. let's not get cancelled. we're living in febrile okay. febrile times, are we not? okay. in yet another miserable in a yet another miserable landmark, of migrants landmark, the number of migrants crossing the channel this year hit 25,000 today. but as the crisis intensifies, so does the virtue signalling from woke luvvies, who have taken issue with suella braverman saying that some migrants pretend to be gay in order to game the system. just last week , sir elton john, just last week, sir elton john, whose homes include a £15 million villa on the french riviera, called for, quote , more riviera, called for, quote, more compassion, support and acceptance for those seeking a safer future. is elton looking very smart in his glasses? david furnish wearing a carpet. by the looks of it. meanwhile while the bbc's top paid presenter gary lineker also couldn't resist a dig at suella braverman declaring that she can't possibly know that refugees are lying, therefore she's being disingenuous at best. it. but an

interview in an interview with the mail on sunday, the home secretary suella braverman blasted pair being part blasted the pair as being part of an out—of—touch, pampered elite. what do we think about that? does she have a point, belinda, is she playing politics? >> i think she put it really politely. think that's the politely. i think that's the nicest way she could have put it. are these celebs live in a bubble , an ivory tower bubble? bubble, an ivory tower bubble? they've gained their platform and because a variety and fame because a huge variety of fans from all political backgrounds have gifted them their fame and their platform and paid £200 paid for tickets. and now they're turning around believing that that platform gives them a right now to demonise half their fans. because elton john was because remember, elton john was so nasty about brexit and about brexiteers saying that he wasn't one of those colonial imperial , one of those colonial imperial, de—list, idiotic english people all on the on the brexit vote. you have you have people like emma thompson and stephen fry and they're all doing down the country all the because country all the time because they live all around the world. they're, chaumareys. internationalist chaumareys. they have messiah complexes internationalist chaumareys. they hawtheirlssiah complexes internationalist chaumareys. they hawtheir egos complexes

internationalist chaumareys. they hawtheir egos are nplexes internationalist chaumareys. they hawtheir egos are so exes internationalist chaumareys. they hawtheir egos are so huge, because their egos are so huge, they have no idea what it's like to wait for a doctor's appointment, to wait for a doctor's appointment , to wait a appointment, to wait for a school place to a community school place to have a community with, with filled with hotels , with, with filled with hotels, with, with filled with hotels, with undocumented men. they never have to walk amongst ordinary people . so they they ordinary people. so they they have this arrogance of have these this arrogance of talking down to the british pubuc talking down to the british public who have concerns when they're on a platform gifted to them by the people. i would like now to stand and applaud that now to stand up and applaud that , but i'd be out of shot. >> can i just say that that is very you've very powerful, what you've just said in mitigation for elton, because i've got no defence of gary, got to say , because i gary, i've got to say, because i find he's the king of find that he's the king of double standards. but sir elton has spoken out about gay rights and applied to gay people for decades the chairman decades now. he's the chairman of elton aids of the elton john aids foundation. in terms of foundation. so in terms of elton, it comes from a particular place, which is his concern abuse gay people. >> oh , come on. i think it's >> oh, come on. i think it's politically there was a very powerful piece last last week from an asylum lawyer called david hague, who has said that not only are 80% of most asylum

claims bogus, he also talked about how many claims he gets from men from from various countries pretending that they're gay . they say we're not they're gay. they say we're not gay, but we've heard that it gets you in britain, it gets you into this country. now this is an lawyer who deals with an asylum lawyer who deals with this time. so let's this all of the time. so let's stop pretend everyone stop pretend that everyone trying to get into this country is a persecuted gay. there are 70 countries in the world where there where homosexuality is criminalised and only a handful of those countries are gays actually persecuted and killed . actually persecuted and killed. we know iran. that's a handful. the rest, i mean, 29 of those countries, by the way, are commonwealth countries. so gays are persecuted in the way are not persecuted in the way that they're saying they are in those countries. you know , those countries. but, you know, to me, these two are a joke. these are rich, privileged elitists. the two of them don't have the guts to stand for political office. elton john, you know, he does the aid stuff. he throws parties and he supports the aids foundation. i get all of that. but these two

don't have the guts to stand up in public and face people and have what they think challenged sits there. you know, think sits there. you know, i think lineker is a dangerous man. you know, last year he talks about suella and citing hatred. he was inciting hatred against her. last year , he incensed all of last year, he incensed all of britain's jews by throwing the word ism around in relation to suella. and this government, you know , only, you know, that is know, only, you know, that is inciting hatred. he was, you know, jewish people were up in arms about this because he degrades what happened to the 6 million jews who were murdered and he degrades what happened to their since throwing their families since by throwing this phrase around. i'd love to challenge lineker in public and think and say to him, what do you think about what do you think means? well, perhaps stupid perhaps there is a stupid man, perhaps there is a counterbalance to this, which is that a that gary lineker is actually a guy conscience . guy of conscience. >> he's taken refugees in. he's taken one. a refugee in taken one. he took a refugee in and documented this guy. this guy well reported to be very, guy is well reported to be very, very concerned about plight very concerned about the plight of are fleeing for of people who are fleeing for their lives, fleeing against

persecution. they're not. who could argue with that, matthew? well, look , i think on the wider well, look, i think on the wider question of celebrity , those question of celebrity, those people glad he's people are very glad he's speaking up for them. >> yeah, absolutely. and gary lineker know, lineker has been on a you know, on journey because on a political journey because obviously a political obviously he was a political when young . and he was he when i was young. and he was he was in his football. he played football. yeah, absolutely. and clearly more political. clearly he's got more political. i i mean, carol vorderman clearly he's got more political. i the imean, carol vorderman clearly he's got more political. i the i|wh0|, carol vorderman clearly he's got more political. i the i |wh0|, carmeorderman clearly he's got more political. i the i |wh0|, carme because| is the one who gets me because when for the labour when i work for the labour party, tory endorser. party, she was a tory endorser. exactly queen yes exactly queen of. yes >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we've all been on a journey here. >> yeah. she's a shapeshifter . >> yeah. she's a shapeshifter. >> yeah. she's a shapeshifter. >> the people have real respect for the people who've had an exercise, backing exercise, who stayed backing a political party all the way through. i mean, there was a when you're doing an event with the party, you the leader of your party, you have pre—recorded have a sort of a pre—recorded celebrity voice introduce celebrity voice to introduce them. i can tell by the them. and i can tell you by the end blair brown years, we end of the blair brown years, we were an iraq and all the luvvies had left. we were down to about two people. richard wilson and david let us david tennant would still let us use voices. but right at use their voices. but right at the end. so there's people who've done eddie izzard. i know not him. you not everybody loves him. you

love him? ha ha ha i >> -- >> he emu ham >> he is a man. >> he is a man. >> i'm not going to be. she's not another suspension . not another suspension. >> she's a committed activist . >> she's a committed activist. >> she's a committed activist. >> she's a committed activist. >> she sticks by what she says . >> she sticks by what she says. these you know why? why doesn't lineker go on a political programme ? you know, like this? programme? you know, like this? like one of these shows selected his views , challenged. you know his views, challenged. you know why why he never wants. why he puts why he never wants. >> why does manchester. >> why does manchester. >> well there's another >> well yeah there's another joke. luck them. joke. good luck to them. good luck them . luck to them. >> listen, don't keep kelvin >> listen, you don't keep kelvin mackenzie waiting. we to >> listen, you don't keep kelvin macknon. e waiting. we to >> listen, you don't keep kelvin macknon. thanksg. we to >> listen, you don't keep kelvin macknon. thanks to we to >> listen, you don't keep kelvin macknon. thanks to my to >> listen, you don't keep kelvin macknon. thanks to my brilliant crack on. thanks to my brilliant panel for their views. what do you think? should john and you think? should elton john and gary on you think? should elton john and garjborder on you think? should elton john and garjborder policy on you think? should elton john and garjborder policy market? on our border policy market? cbnnews.com my pundits are going to nominate their greatest britons and union jackasses very shortly. but next in uncanceled is rupert murdoch's media empire about to dramatically switch support to labour and could that decide the next election ? i'll decide the next election? i'll be asking the former editor of the sun newspaper, kelvin mackenzie . plus, kelvin is not mackenzie. plus, kelvin is not happy about those striking doctors. he's on fire and he's

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well, it's time now for uncanceled, where britain's top commentator to speak out on controversial issues without the fear of the cancel culture sweeping the rest of the media. tonight, rupert murdoch's uk papers switch allegiance papers could switch allegiance to labour at the election , to labour at the next election, according to media moguls according to the media moguls biographer wolff biographer michael wolff dramatically claimed that rupert murdoch decide to back sir murdoch may decide to back sir keir starmer's bid for prime minister if he's going to be a certain winner. well, to discuss this, let's speak to the former editor of the sun newspaper. when sold millions of when they sold millions of copies mackenzie . copies today, kelvin mackenzie. kelvin, significant is mr kelvin, how significant is mr murdoch's support in 2023, 2024, non—existent ? non—existent? >> it doesn't matter anymore . >> it doesn't matter anymore. actually, it's difficult to say. even in my time when actually we probably had 12 million readers and when we said vote tory, we took the credit for it. i had no idea actually whether it had the slightest bit of impact. >> did you put kinnock in the

light bulb? >> which of >> i did, yeah. yeah. which of course was a piece genius course was a piece of genius which continues to haunt me and but , but. so which continues to haunt me and but, but. so the which continues to haunt me and but , but. so the bottom line, it but, but. so the bottom line, it doesn't really matter what they say. however, there are say. however however, there are a whole series of endorsements which party leaders are looking for. and were the sun to say vote for starmer . by the way, vote for starmer. by the way, that would be a if you're watching rupert, which i very much doubt because it's probably past but if you past your bedtime. but if you are , right, do are watching, right, don't do that. are watching, right, don't do that . whatever you do, if you're that. whatever you do, if you're going to to any the going to do it to any of the papers, get the sunday papers, do it. get the sunday times support starmer because times to support starmer because nobody reads somebody times nobody reads that somebody times and sun and nobody cares. but the sun does and the times does does matter and the times does matter. so i'm hoping that he does something actually , rupert does something actually, rupert only ever does something which he in commercial he thinks is in his commercial interest. can if he can interest. so if he can if he can work out whether there is a bottom line plus for him, he will do it. so i'm just hopeful he won't ask the sun reader because that will have a damaging effect on the sun going fonnard. >> for example, the by >> for example, the sun by definition be anti woke definition should be anti woke right against political

correctness , against the idea correctness, against the idea you define. you can't define. >> has it has changed a >> but it has it has changed a bit. they're trying they're trying actually to keep the advertisers hours. and if you want advertisers, should want the advertisers, you should be like. so be as woke as you like. so actually , the stuff in actually, the stuff that's in the is pretty, pretty i the sun is pretty, pretty i think. neil, who i don't think. andrew neil, who i don't normally with, described normally agree with, described it as milk and water. that's it as milk and water. and that's probably what it is. >> you're what >> yeah, you're right. what about on strike? about those doctors on strike? can justified? can it be justified? >> of the doctors . >> sure. none of the doctors. what about the consultants? what a disgraceful mob. that lot are, right? they make 137 grand a year on average, plus their private work. so they combine with the doctors to grind it to the patients and some of these hospitals are literally they can't treat anybody. no matter how ill they are. so then the consultants are saying pay us nine grand for a shift or 7.9 thousand for a shift or there's a hospital . i know the hospital a hospital. i know the hospital in margate, a shocking place, by the way. shocking place . east the way. shocking place. east kent hospital, the hospital, not margate. well, actually , funny margate. well, actually, funny you should mention that .

you should mention that. >> i think it's very colourful. they're thinking man's whitstable . whitstable. >> it could be, but it probably needs a lick of paint before it comes to that. so the idea that individual shifts that people are making so. individual shifts that people are making so . so they're using, are making so. so they're using, are making so. so they're using, are you telling me almost £8,000 for one shift, almost eight grand for one stable? well it was a neurology department at the walton hospital in liverpool and the other one was a margate hospital , which was like 6500 hospital, which was like 6500 quid. and this came after peer pressure actually, given the credit from the times to find out what was going on there and what the doctors say is, if you want us, you're going to have to pay want us, you're going to have to pay us quadruple ten times that and actually , if the hospital is and actually, if the hospital is desperate, desperate , they'll desperate, desperate, they'll pay desperate, desperate, they'll pay it. the question is, it's our money. is actually our money. it is actually taxpayers money. and so these doctors, they don't give a stuff. they'll use any kind of pain, any kind of blackmail. i'm not i'm surprised they don't join the rmt . they could be join the rmt. they could be fantastic train drivers, couldn't they? because what they fantastic train drivers, couldido they? because what they fantastic train drivers,

couldido isey? because what they fantastic train drivers, couldido is they ecause what they fantastic train drivers, couldido is they drivee what they fantastic train drivers, couldido is they drive theirt they could do is they drive their train halfway between the station and then charge £9,000 to allow passengers out. to allow the passengers out. that's the kind of trick which these consultants do. it's a disgrace. they are unhappy that they don't make as much money as lawyers. >> but let's not forget, you were editor the sun. were the editor of the sun. for many years. you founded talksport . you're worth a few talksport. you're worth a few bob yourself. you know, it's kind of you to mention that you're of means. you you're a man of means. you therefore everybody wants more money, don't they? and these consultants would argue that they've had a real term pay cut, so shouldn't they argue that? >> i have no idea whether any of thatis >> i have no idea whether any of that is true. it's just another it's like listening to any other trade union leader . don't. so trade union leader. don't. so are you shocked at that? consultants will act in this way or is this quite normal in your household? so they use your mother's pain to get their pay up. isn't that a surprise to you?is up. isn't that a surprise to you? is that a surprise? >> don't you want to be paid what is a fair amount? what you feel is a fair amount? well, why don't. >> okay. the a >> okay. right the nhs is a unionised monopoly. i'm absolutely in favour . they can absolutely in favour. they can earn as much as they like . let's

earn as much as they like. let's start another system where we pay start another system where we pay insurance alongside it. so if you're skint, you're still getting treated by the nhs. god help you, right? and then other people who have some money will have some decent doctors as well. >> yeah. and something the elephant in room isn't elephant in the room that isn't discussed especially discussed enough, especially probably in the guardian, is that strikes will cost that these strikes will cost lives . we somehow went into lives. we somehow went into a brand new territory where nurses and doctors downed tools and perhaps it should be like the military where you can't strike. >> i would be in favour of that, right? i would absolutely be in favour of and i'd enjoy favour of that and i'd enjoy seeing the row and i'd love sunak to take him on. why do you think sunak is only ten points behind the catastrophe behind despite the catastrophe that the last few years have been for the conservatives? because he's finally giving that to the normal politico well, views of the country is that is there a word for that? well, gb news is actually kind of encapsulated. it actually . and encapsulated. it actually. and the more he does of that, the

more he will win in the polls. >> so you think he's actually briefly kelvin he's he's in with a shout in two years time isn't he . he. >> uh, i think it will be a distant shout. i think it will be a long way down the valley, but at least he's giving himself a trust or a hope. if it had been trust or boris, would been boris, they would have been absolutely home. absolutely stuffed home. >> kelvin? you do have >> and how's kelvin? you do have the clocks. done. right the clocks. we're done. right okay. you've got an issue. you're all these you're attacking all these doctors consultants . doctors and the consultants. yeah. what happens you go yeah. what happens when you go in and a tuck? okay. in for a nip and a tuck? okay. >> can i say i've just. i've just the burn lift . just paid the burn lift. >> yeah, get the old bags under the eyes. >> sorted out the. the size of my bum. they probably need a jcb for it, to be honest. >> a little bit clumsy, aren't they, this? they, after all of this? >> , that is true. i just >> well, that is true. i just paid £250 for a top heart surgeon told me that there was nothing wrong with me. right. i said if i give you 500, what will i do? >> kelvin mackenzie , alive and >> kelvin mackenzie, alive and kicking. kelvin, thrilled to have you in the studio. i hope you'll week's time you'll be back in a week's time and in the week and i think later in the week as well. that well. let me tell you that

professor banfield, professor phil banfield, chairman the bma council, has chairman of the bma council, has said doctors are fed up of being told that we're problem with told that we're the problem with the to valued the nhs wanting to be valued for our expertise. the same as we were in 2008, is radical were in 2008, is not a radical demand. it's essential demand. in fact, it's essential to having workforce needed to having the workforce needed to having the workforce needed to waiting times . to bring down waiting times. okay, let's get now to my pundits and their greatest britons and union jackasses and let me start with you, carol. who's your greatest briton? >> okay, mine is the education secretary gillian keegan, who has announced today that she's going to ban smartphones in schools during the day. all right. and the rest of us are screaming, why has it taken so long? you know, they've now studies have found that kids are can't focus, they're distracted. it's also to help stop bullying in schools , as one study said, in schools, as one study said, that when a kid receives a bad notification from someone on their phone, it can take 20 minutes and upwards for them to get over it, for them to concentrate again . correct. so, concentrate again. correct. so, yeah, it's a great move. take them, them off them, give them, take them off them, give them, take them off them, give them 4:00. them back at 4:00. >> sense at last.

>> common sense at last. matthew, briton . matthew, your greatest briton. >> so mine is pat arrowsmith, who was peace campaigner who's who was a peace campaigner who's died aged 93. died over the weekend, aged 93. she's founders of cnd she's one of the founders of cnd . might think it's an . and so you might think it's an unusual to on gb unusual one for me to pick on gb news. i actually don't agree with many things and many with her on many things and many of tactics, of her tactics, but she was a very brave woman and particularly the particularly she was the first person their person ever to list their lesbian who she lesbian partner in who's who she was a trailblazer. >> may she rest in >> she was and may she rest in peace. your greatest peace. belinda, your greatest briton mine is priti patel today. >> she used a speech last night at the gala dinner during tory party conference to champion defend and support gb news and to highlight the important role all this channel has in the democracy of our country and giving viewers the other side of the story . and she also really the story. and she also really praised nigel farage in her speech. so i'm a big fan of hers today . today. >> i was delighted that priti patel gave so much support to gb news. she could have had a drink. it's conference, but we do appreciate the positive words also , i will say now that my

also, i will say now that my winner is going to be gillian keegan. the education secretary. there should be no place for mobile phones in an educational setting. okay, let's power through your union jackasses briefly if you can. carol. mine is all cyclists who badgered the government to spend billions so they could get their own lanes on the road. >> they us off. they >> they pushed us off. they caused massive congestion so caused massive congestion. so guess department of guess what? latest department of transport figures, cyclists aren't that bothered about cycling anymore. we're back to pre—pandemic all pre—pandemic levels. so all those lanes are now standing empty and dead. our roads are knackered . knackered. >> oh, i love the cyclists. i think they're saving the planet an view, but they're an unpopular view, but they're not. about you, not. okay. how about you, matthew ? your union jackass? matthew? your union jackass? >> a nasty chap called dale >> he's a nasty chap called dale horton , sheffield wednesday fan horton, sheffield wednesday fan who pleaded guilty and faces jail after mocking a little lad, bradley lowery , who was bradley lowery, who was sunderland's football mascot who died aged six a few years ago . died aged six a few years ago. and he's now this this guy was mocking him at a match at the weekend. and facing weekend. and is facing jail. pretty horrible stuff.

>> belinda, briefly, if you can, very quickly. >> yeah, mine is jeremy hunt for not using his speech as an opportunity to cut taxes or even give hope to anyone that tax taxes were going to be cut. and i think that's a bit of a betrayal of tory voters . betrayal of tory voters. >> okay. well, i'm going to give it to matthew because to let me tell you that dale halton made a big error of judgement. i'm back big error ofjudgement. i'm back tomorrow at nine. headliners is next. thanks for your company. evening i'm alex deakin. >> this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news bright and breezy sums up tomorrow a bit of a grey start in the south and it will be some showers, particularly across north and the west. across the north and the west. overnight pretty heavy overnight some pretty heavy rain moving very soggy one out moving in a very soggy one out there to this there right now thanks to this area some area of low pressure. some intense downpours, even the odd rumble of thunder likely over the midlands and eastern parts of england over the next few hours be very wet indeed hours could be very wet indeed for a time across of for a time across parts of norfolk, . but that

norfolk, especially. but that all tends to scoot away through the early hours. many places will become dry, certainly across scotland and northern ireland. a ireland. some clear spells a little here, to little chilly here, down to single but staying single figures, but staying quite mild across the south. temperatures may stay in the teens in the capital, but quite a grey start to tuesday. still some rain over the some outbreaks of rain over the east east anglia and east midlands, east anglia and the south—east potentially still around the rush hour. around for the rush hour. gradually pulling away through the morning, brighter the morning, then brighter skies, western skies, showers for western scotland and parts of northern england. a few for wales and northern ireland too. but much of the south and east having a largely afternoon, a fresher largely dry afternoon, a fresher feel. temperatures in feel. temperatures mostly in the mid teens at best. and similarly on wednesday, the winds a little lighter . on wednesday, much of lighter. on wednesday, much of central and eastern england looking dry and bright, but more wet weather into northern wet weather coming into northern scotland. and then further south along the west coast, that rain could and could could be quite heavy and could cause a little disruption coming into ireland later on. into northern ireland later on. to most places to further south, most places dry and just odd dry and bright, just the odd shower temperatures shower and again, temperatures mostly the to teens mostly in the mid to high teens

, tired of the usual focus tested pre—prepared. >> westminster run—around as well. >> so am i. >> so am i. >> so am i. >> so you want higher taxes? >> so you want higher taxes? >> is your to department blame for this? are you rethinking this policy? a lot this has this policy? a lot of this has happened under tory's watch every sunday at 9.3. nought. i'll be sitting down with those in power get the truth about in power to get the truth about theissues in power to get the truth about the issues affecting you . that's the issues affecting you. that's the issues affecting you. that's the camilla tominey show a politics show with personalities

u with jb news . jb news. >> good evening. and the top story tonight, the greater manchester mayor says axing the northern be the northern leg of hs2 would be the desperate act of a dying government. the time, government. at the same time, the west the tory mayor of the west midlands, made an midlands, andy street, made an impassioned to impassioned last ditch appeal to mr to not cancel hs2 to mr sunak to not cancel hs2 to manchester. it follows increased speculation about the rail project's future with a number of government ministers calling for the project to be reviewed due to spiralling costs. mr sunakis due to spiralling costs. mr sunak is expected to address the issue at the tory party conference this week . well, the conference this week. well, the chancellor today announced plans to freeze the expansion of the civil service and reduce its numbers to pre—pandemic levels . numbers to pre—pandemic levels. dunng numbers to pre—pandemic levels. during a speech at conservative party conference in manchester today , jeremy hunt said it would today, jeremy hunt said it would save the government £1 billion next year. meanwhile he also announced tougher benefit sanctions on those who are capable of working but choose

not to. and a