good morning. well. good morning. >> it's 930 on tuesday, the 3rd of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. we are at the conservative party conference manchester off the rails. >> rishi sunak is expected to announce whether or not he will scrap between birmingham scrap hs2 between birmingham and manchester . the justice manchester tomorrow. the justice secretary, spok e has secretary, alex .chalk spoke has thrown support behind the thrown his support behind the prime minister to make the right decision. so i'm not sure that decision. so i'm not sure that decision has been made that decision has been made that decision hasn't been made. >> this prime minister does the right thing the basis of the right thing on the basis of the evidence, calmly, evidence, coolly, calmly, unemotionally and trans women . unemotionally and trans women. >> the health secretary, steve barclay, making a big speech today, describes his plan to ban trans women from fema hostel wards as common sense war on woke trade secretary kemi badenoch delivered a rousing speech on race, gender and brexit yesterday in which she said britain is the best country in which to be black. >> i tell my children that this

is the best country in the world to be black because it is a country that sees people not labels and cheaper food shopping for the first time in two years, there's been a monthly drop in food prices. >> will this trend continue ? >> will this trend continue? we're going to get the thoughts of minister of state for of the minister of state for food this morning here at the tory . tory. conference your first tory conference. >> it is it is. we're going to be talking in a moment as well to a woman here who has a stand. she's a baker and she met rishi sunak this morning. she gave him his favourite cake. we're going to chatting her in just a to be chatting to her in just a moment. your thoughts moment. email us your thoughts as well. this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, here's with here's the news with erin armstrong . armstrong. >> good morning . it's 931. i'm >> good morning. it's 931. i'm erin armstrong in the gb newsroom. businesses are

demanding immediate clarity as confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2. there's growing speculation the government is planning to scrap the birmingham to manchester leg because of soaring costs. but the prime minister insists the decision is yet to be made and rishi sunak is expecting to make an announcement about the project at the conservative party conference tomorrow. junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the conference centre in manchester later. they've started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay. radiographers have also walked out this morning for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. the british medical association wants the government to return to the negotiating table, warning if a credible deal isn't offered new strike dates will be set for november and december. the government says this year's pay rise was a final and fair settlement, but the government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards . the health secretary,

wards. the health secretary, steve barclay, is expected to say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs . in his common sense to the nhs. in his speech at the tory conference, he'll announce proposals to push back on wokery in the health service. he told the telegraph the move will protect women's rights . under the changes, trans rights. under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation in the price of a monthly food shop has fallen for the first time in more than two years. prices were down by 0.1% in september compared to the previous month. that's according to the british retail consortium. it brought the annual rate of food inflation down to 9.9. that's the lowest point since last august. and now the group which lobbies on behalf of the industry, says it's because of fierce competition between the supermarkets . that's it for the supermarkets. that's it for the moment. more on our website gbnews.com and that's it from me. now back to andrew and . bev

me. now back to andrew and. bev >> good morning. thank you for joining us. we're at the tory party conference in manchester. >> you might have noticed there is a first tory conference i don't think i can remember how many tory conferences been many tory conferences i've been to, think the first one to, but i think the first one was mrs. thatcher was was 1988. mrs. thatcher was prime minister neil kinnock was labour and it's been all labour leader and it's been all downhill since then really . so downhill since then really. so i don't know how many tory leaders i've known. >> and are they different now? how different are they really? >> what's different now? they are incredibly controlled , are all incredibly controlled, bold, and it's all very formulaic. so if there's votes on the floor, the leadership don't care. the same will happen at labour conference at the labour conference and it's much more commercial. so here we in commercial here we are in the commercial area. exhibitors area. you've got big exhibitors like british telecom, the national union, across national farmers union, across the and this is the way from us, and this is important all the important revenue for all the political parties. labour will have a people at their have a lot of people at their conference too, next week. >> well, this morning i was chatting to a lady who had just met rishi sunak, so she's joined us here on the stand. lauren

baker and you are a baker? >> i am, yeah. i love that. >> i am, yeah. i love that. >> how? with a name like that, what else could you be? how was rishi sunak this morning? oh, he was spent so much time >> he. he spent so much time with me. he chatting. he was with me. he was chatting. he was talking his family. he has talking about his family. he has his daughters are into horses. he says he has a real big, sweet tooth. so i've gifted him some cake. and he said he's going to enjoy with a cup of tea. enjoy them with a cup of tea. >> now, what cake did you give him? >> i've give him the chocolate brownie and a victoria sponge and a lemon drizzle, which you've right front of you've got right in front of drizzle here which his drizzle here now, which is his favourite think said lemon favourite i think he said lemon yes, i think that's absolutely right. >> politicians do fib, as you know. that know. but i think that is probably. tony, offer to pay? >> it was pay? >> it was all very rushed. >> it was all very rushed. >> so that's a no then look, it's the it's the royals. >> it was a gift from me. okay. but it's the royals who don't carry money. politicians should always money. on always carry money. i was on that to you. only the that stand next to you. only the other have i got it other day. buying. have i got it here? got it. i've got it here? i've got it. i've got it out. later, my tory boy. beermat. >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> yeah, yeah. and i. but i paid

for mine. unlike the prime minister. >> well, do you know what i was watching him going around the stands this morning and there was stand provide dogs was a stand that provide dogs for visually impaired people. was a stand that provide dogs for vhe ally impaired people. was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely �*ed people. was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spentople. was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spent ale. was a stand that provide dogs for vhe genuinely spent a lot and he genuinely spent a lot of time talking. i'm sure time talking. and i i'm sure we've seen before, sometimes politicians the best politicians do not have the best social in world. but politicians do not have the best swas in world. but politicians do not have the best swas really in world. but politicians do not have the best swas really impressed,.d. but politicians do not have the best swas really impressed, i. but politicians do not have the best swas really impressed, i have i was really impressed, i have to say, watching interact, to say, watching him interact, i was i was pleasantly surprised. i can't like say how nice he was so nice. >> he was he was interesting. he spent he wasn't spent so much time. he wasn't rushing. he just was genuinely interested business. >> and were you surprised by that? >> i really surprised. >> i was really surprised. i thought it would just be a quick in and out job wasn't. in and out job and it wasn't. i'm severely dyslexic, so he was spending time talking to me about that. talking about about that. and talking about conferences this is conferences before. nope this is my first one. >> prime time. you've >> so first prime time. you've met prime minister as well. it met a prime minister as well. it is, did you think is, yeah. what did you think you'd think of him? >> i don't i didn't >> i don't know. i didn't really. i didn't. i wasn't. really. i didn't. iwasn't. i didn't think of anything, really. i just was shocked that obviously was coming round. really. i just was shocked that obvonlyy was coming round. really. i just was shocked that obvonly foundis coming round. really. i just was shocked that obvonly found outwming round. really. i just was shocked that obvonly found out last; round. really. i just was shocked that obvonly found out last night d. that. >> can i ask why? why? you thought you'd bring the business

here this week? >> thought it would >> i just thought it would be a great opportunity. and i struggled in school, so i just wanted to show young people and my well that keep my son as well that if you keep going. started in lockdown. going. i started in lockdown. lockdown amazing for me. going. i started in lockdown. lochrew1 amazing for me. going. i started in lockdown. lochrew my amazing for me. going. i started in lockdown. lochrew my businessg for me. going. i started in lockdown. lochrew my business and me. going. i started in lockdown. lochrew my business and just it's grew my business and just to show if you keep going, you don't give up. >> and are you selling lots of cake of tories got a sweet tooth. yeah i'm doing all right. >> yeah. yeah a of presents >> yeah. yeah a lot of presents for wives. yeah >> yeah. >> yeah. >> don't overthink that. >> don't overthink that. >> lauren. name is >> lauren. and your name is lauren baker. >> your company is called bakers bake. is. she's great. is bake. it is. she's great. and is it doing well? >> yeah, doing great. so >> yeah, i'm doing great. so i do all artisan markets. i do a lot with independent street, whose with this week whose i'm here with this week andits whose i'm here with this week and it's just independent businesses, independent businesses, independent businesses , all small. i mean businesses, all small. i mean i work from my home. do you. yes. not on a very lively place to be. >> yes, it is. >> yes, it is. >> and we're all small independent businesses. we all work super hard. you see us in winter getting up freezing cold. but we're a family. and that's what's so nice. we all help each other. yeah >> good. brilliant. so just how

much would it cost me to buy £5? >> £5 cheap at the price. >> £5 cheap at the price. >> everything's cheaper in manchester. i love coming here. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> and you've got a lovely accent, by the way. oh, thanks. and is your second time on and this is your second time on television you were a television because you were a model young. model when you were very young. i yes, i was. i was on this >> yes, i was. i was on this morning when i was little. princess beatrice's dress. oh, really? oh, i on a rocking really? oh, i was on a rocking horse, she looked familiar. horse, if she looked familiar. >> explains fabulous. >> that explains it. fabulous. is that right, lauren, you >> that explains it. fabulous. is much.jht, lauren, you >> that explains it. fabulous. is much. very auren, you >> that explains it. fabulous. is much. very much. you >> that explains it. fabulous. is much. very much. luck so much. very much. good luck and enjoy cakes. they're on and enjoy your cakes. they're on me. we don't mind buying them. no, no. you can have them. no, no, no. you can have them. they're gifted. >> going to come give >> we're going to come and give you some cash. >> okay? you. >> okay? thank you. >> okay? thank you. >> don't to be >> we don't want to be associated with these politicians. >> thanks, lauren. okay. >> thanks, lauren. okay. >> lovely to see you. >> lovely to see you. >> calls his own >> so despite calls from his own mps to stick with the hs2 rail project, there now reports project, there are now reports that will that the prime minister will axe the multi—billion pound project's leg from project's final leg from birmingham to manchester. >> joined lord >> we're joined now by lord balfe who the peer who balfe kelly, who is the peer who was brought in to conduct an independent of whole independent review of the whole hs2 project. and that report was commissioned by boris johnson, lord you're

lord berkeley, it's your you're going to get your way. it seems we're not going to get. i don't we're not going to get. i don't we get announcement we might get an announcement tomorrow, pretty tomorrow, but it seems pretty certain birmingham to manchester dead that's going certain birmingham to manchester desave that's going certain birmingham to manchester desave the that's going certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. it's going certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. howoing certain birmingham to manchester desave the taxpayer. how much money? >> well, i think probably be 30 or 40 billion. but i hope that he's also going to say that he'll spend some of that on building and improving the links between, say, liverpool, manchester, leeds and bradford and in other words, east west, because it's fine cancelling a project which has got totally out of control. i mean, the figure for the complete project is now 180 billion and that's a ridiculous amount of money. but the important thing for me is that he, he put some of that of what he's cancelled thing into improving the existing rail links which as many listeners will know is a really awful going east west across the

pennines and also from from birmingham to nottingham and derby . the money needs to be derby. the money needs to be spent there, not as much as it will be cancelled by hs2, but quite a lot of it. so will be cancelled by hs2, but quite a lot of it . so i hope quite a lot of it. so i hope he's going to give something back to the region as well . back to the region as well. >> and how can he make this a good news story? because it is dividing people actually here in manchester, would you believe when you talk to people, they say, well, we're not we were never that bothered actually about getting from london to here in about ten minutes quicker. so to some people here, i am a mancunian it does feel like a triumph of common sense, but he will obviously get a lot of stick for this as well. how does make it positive ? does he make it positive? >> well, i think he makes it positive by saying that you can get to manchester from manchester to london pretty well, using the existing trains and get from birmingham to london pretty well . london pretty well. >> what you cannot do is get so

well from manchester to some of the smaller towns in the in the west, in the west of the pennines and across to leeds, where the service is really bad . and i think he's got to give them something back and say, you know, within a short period of time , some five years or time, some five years or whatever, we'll have an improved service . s so that you, you'll service. s so that you, you'll be able to go and shopping more easily in different cities. you'll be able to get jobs further from your home because you'll have a decent rail service to get from one to the other or go to school in college, which people want to see something back in return . see something back in return. and this is what's failed. and i think andy burnham has been complaining that the line mustn't be cancelled. but on the other hand, he's also being clear , claiming that you've got clear, claiming that you've got to have an improved link east west . so that means it's west. so that means it's probably going to cost 200 or something billion . and i think something billion. and i think he's sensible enough to know that the government may not have enough money for both. and i

think it will be the section from birmingham to manchester that will get cut and hopefully replaced by something going east west , which doesn't have to go west, which doesn't have to go so fast , but it has to be so fast, but it has to be reliable and electrify and easy to use . to use. >> can you just explain to us, lord bartley, before we let you 9°! lord bartley, before we let you go, the original cost of this project is wretched scheme was about 30 to 33 billion, commissioned by tony blair. i think gordon brown's government actually boris johnson got enthusiastic behind it. so did david cameron. how did the cost 9°! david cameron. how did the cost go, in your view, from 32 billion to potentially . £180 billion to potentially. £180 billion? eyewatering i'm afraid it's because it's been very badly managed, not just by hs2 badly managed, notjust by hs2 itself, but by the department of transport as well . transport as well. >> and we've been trying to dig into their costs, given a government project, you'd think they would have to give us information ocean about the real

cost, but they haven't done so . cost, but they haven't done so. we've got armies of consulting ets who are being paid a lot of money. the contractors have got some very interesting contracts , which i think mean that they've trying to save, that they're not to going lose money if it gets cancelled. but we don't know yet. but it's been nobody's kept a real tight grip on the costs like you would do if you were a proper private sector project packed with shareholders who were very, very worried about the cost ballooning . and it's none of the ballooning. and it's none of the other projects we've seen in the past cost crossrail i used to work in the channel tunnel none of us have got to the stage where we've got a sort of six, 8 or 10 times cost overrun before the thing has even half finished i >> all right. lord berkeley, thank you so much for joining us. that's lord berkeley, who did that independent review into the cost of hs2. and he's been

proved right. >> absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> we're joined now by the >> well, we're joined now by the director jl partners, director of jl partners, the pollster scarlett mccgwire. morning scarlett. how do you think this situation with hs2 will affect the polls? some people who've been clamouring for hs2 to be stopped in its tracks, no pun intended, will think this is a good sign that common sense has prevailed . and common sense has prevailed. and yet there will be those who think it's the north being let down again and being treated as second yeah. second class city. yeah. >> there are two >> so i think there are two issues here that might affect the polls. first is the the polls. the first is the actual itself and the actual decision itself and the second comms second is some of the comms around i think when you around it. so i think when you think about the actual decision, hs2 voters, a lot of them are very ambivalent. they just don't really then othennise really care. and then othennise they're i would really care. and then othennise thejthe i would really care. and then othennise thejthe who i would really care. and then othennise thejthe who i woulit sort say the ones who support it sort of support it. the ones of really support it. the ones who oppose it really oppose it. but most of the public are pretty much just don't really know,the problem is it's now think the problem is it's now beenin think the problem is it's now been in the headlines for the last weeks and actually more last two weeks and actually more than else, been than anything else, what's been in headlines is not just in the headlines is not just people are against people who are against the government, the government, but people in the government, but people in the government themselves talking

about of about the phenomenal waste of money seen. and money that we've seen. and i think you'll see in focus think what you'll see in focus groups people sort of groups is people sort of charting as another charting this up as another waste money potentially from waste of money potentially from this u—turn, this government. another u—turn, another of a mess. another just a bit of a mess. and i think actually that might have a bigger impact than the decision on. >> and also doesn't it look >> and it also doesn't it look like been like rishi sunak has been dithering watched dithering because i've watched him here. been around this him here. he's been around this morning a couple of morning doing a couple of broadcast interviews he's broadcast interviews and he's refusing if line is refusing to say if the line is going to be cancelled. we know it's cancelled, it's going to be cancelled, prime minister. just when prime minister. it's just when you soit prime minister. it's just when you so it does look you tell us. so it does look like he's dithering. a not in control and that's not a good look. >> exactly. and i think it's actually opposite what actually the opposite of what they're do at the they're trying to do at the moment. so i think if you think about their net zero push, their car announcements, they're trying a much trying to paint him as a much more action man rather more sort of action man rather than man, keir than inaction man, as keir starmer said. and i think the problem is, is that even if this announcement perfectly announcement was done perfectly and coming with of and it was coming with lots of other measures, east other measures, perhaps east west something west connections or something like then you say, okay, like that, then you say, okay, this some taking decisive this is some taking a decisive decision for the decision that's good for the country. the problem country. but the problem is, just you said, the

just as you said, it's the dithering that we're seeing. and actually last actually that's the last thing people rishi people need to see from rishi sunak, do you think i mean, you've been watching these conferences a long time. conferences for a long time. >> listening to something >> i was listening to something on day. i on the bbc the other day. i mean, a different mean, they're in a different conference to me because they say morale is terrible every body's you body's on the verge of, you know, themselves off know, throwing themselves off a sixth window. i don't sixth floor window. i don't think i've to conferences think i've been to conferences where the morale is much worse. like when truss like last year when liz truss was imploding. >> i it's actually >> yeah, i think it's actually really say that every really funny you say that every person i who haven't seen person i stop who i haven't seen yet is saying exactly the same thing, it's not as thing, which is, oh, it's not as bad as we thought it was going to be. yeah i arrived sunday to be. yeah i arrived on sunday and it's a bit and i thought, oh, it's a bit dead, bit miserable. but dead, it's a bit miserable. but actually picked the actually it picked up on the atmosphere is not so bad. >> funny because >> yeah, it's funny because sunak out these sunak throwing out these curve balls, a dilemma balls, which pose a dilemma to starmer. like how does he now handle the what? you handle hs2? what's the what? you know be sitting know what he will be sitting there what i do there thinking, what do i do now? say i would continue now? do i say i would continue with to manchester and with hs2 up to manchester and support even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of the even though with hs2 up to manchester and support of the population jugh with hs2 up to manchester and support of the population think so many of the population think it's it puts it's a waste of money. it puts him a quite a tricky him in a quite a tricky situation . situation. >> yeah, i that's exactly

>> yeah, i think that's exactly it. exactly what it. and that's exactly what again this conservative strategy doing. it's trying to paint sunak a man who can take sunak as a man who can take strong, bold decisions against starmer, , is starmer, who, you know, is characterised least in focus characterised at least in focus groups, but taking any groups, but not taking any positions all. positions or stances at all. again actually, i would say that i guess starmer has the comfort of waiting until it's actually been formally announced. yeah, i would would be in his would say that would be in his interest announce a position interest to announce a position pretty because think pretty soon because i think people are getting quite tired of of it appearing that he's of him of it appearing that he's not he about things. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> scarlet , great to talk to >> scarlet, great to talk to you. we're going to see you. i think we're going to see you. i think we're going to see you again tomorrow. you probably again tomorrow. that's scarlett mccgwire. who is leading pollster now. kemi badenoch. into the badenoch. she waded into the culture yesterday here culture wars yesterday here at the about time , the tory conference about time, too. she had to say. >> i pay tribute to the many women's and lgbt groups such as conservatives for women, sex matters and the lgb alliance, who, despite unbelievable opposition, kept fighting this policy reform , refusing to be policy reform, refusing to be cancelled and speaking the truth. there's no no other party that will defend common sense.

next week, labour will tell the country that it is ready for government. but ladies and gentlemen , let me ask you this. gentlemen, let me ask you this. if labour if labour mps won't tell us what a woman is, what else aren't they telling us? oh where do i look at us? >> so we are joined now by the co—founder of lgb alliance, kate harris . good co—founder of lgb alliance, kate harris. good morning, co—founder of lgb alliance, kate harris . good morning, kate. what harris. good morning, kate. what did you make of what kemi badenoch said yesterday? i thought it was brilliant and it was so it such a highlight was so it was such a highlight for to name them. for her to name them. >> of us who've been >> those of us who've been really fighting the really fighting against the madness , we're completely madness, we're completely apolitical . lgb alliance has no apolitical. lgb alliance has no political allegiance , but for political allegiance, but for three years running we've appued three years running we've applied to each major political party to attend the conference. liberals, labour and the conservatives. and it's the conservatives. and it's the conservative party who've had us three years running and the others have banned us. so we feel very welcome here. this is the place where you're allowed to speak the truth , and that's to speak the truth, and that's what kemi does and that's what we do. >> is there a of >> is there a bit of frustration, though, that that's

just of just because the mood music of the has changed, changed the country has changed, changed to extent ? do you think to some extent? do you think that the conservative party are just the fact just reacting now to the fact that does seem like there that there does seem like there is common approach to is a common sense approach to transgender issues, which has started to evolve through the media, through conversations and now maybe they could have been supporting you all along. well we don't look back. >> we look fonnard. and frankly, thousands and thousands of men and women , but largely women and women, but largely women have driven change not only in england but in scotland . and england but in scotland. and we're struggling in wales. but in terms of winning votes, i think every mp needs to get angner think every mp needs to get angrier and happier for every candidate now standing for whatever party needs to look at whatever party needs to look at what is the electorally salient issue of the day . voters like issue of the day. voters like the truth . they do not like to the truth. they do not like to be patronised . and it seems to be patronised. and it seems to me that the conservatives are prepared to listen to what we've been saying for years and many other groups. you cannot change sex. a child cannot be born in

the wrong body. and for goodness sake, let's not teach them lies in schools. yeah, well , i'm just in schools. yeah, well, i'm just thinking what kemi badenoch said in the speech, and i've been waiting for her to make this speech a long time. waiting for her to make this spe kate, a long time. waiting for her to make this spe kate, you.ong time. waiting for her to make this spe kate, you and time. waiting for her to make this spekate, you and i me. waiting for her to make this spekate, you and i have waiting for her to make this spe kate, you and i have talked >> kate, you and i have talked about a sense of about this with a sense of pressure, she said it was pressure, but she said it was the conservative government that stopped snp stopped the shameful snp and labour politicians in scotland effectively with effectively going ahead with putting who were putting rapists who were who were as in were identifying as women in pnsons were identifying as women in prisons and also stopping that barmy , trying to stop that barmy barmy, trying to stop that barmy law of teenagers changing their gender at school without even possibly talking to their parents. >> yes. i mean, we've been through what's happened, andrew, is that there's been a coup. it's an attempted coup on liberal democracy. yeah, because it's a whole new set of ideas that make no sense when they're scrutinised. that's been forced on the whole population of this country and other countries with no democratic debate. yes the conservatives have presided over this, but thankfully they're coming to their senses and drawing back now and saying , no, drawing back now and saying, no, we will go no further with this

i >> when is the education secretary going to stop fussing on about concrete in schools and i've forgotten her name. what's the educator? >> gillian keegan. >> gillian keegan. >> gillian keegan actually >> gillian keegan and actually give guidance that give the clear guidance that you want schools that say parents want in schools that say parents have told if their child have to be told if their child turns up in the classroom and is going change their gender going to change their gender or their haven't going to change their gender or theiithat haven't going to change their gender or theiithat guidance. haven't. had that guidance. we haven't. >> thankfully gillian keegan >> and thankfully gillian keegan and badenoch, we and kemi badenoch, we understand, in understand, are engaged in fruitful discussions on this. because the other thing that must change is that if a parent cannot see rac materials , they should. >> that's relationship and sex education relationship. >> they should have the right to withdraw their child. that is fundamental . all so yes, what's fundamental. all so yes, what's happened the dfe is a happened at the dfe is a fascinating case study. i recommend you read an article by stephanie davis array of transgender trend. she traces is the influence of stonewall over 13 years through the dfe. you can see the changes in policy that they drove an unelected

body who attempts to take over our education system, teach children a pack of lies and develop a pipeline straight to the tavistock clinic where these children end up having, which is going to be closed down, of course, which is being closed down. but there are five new units being set up. and some of the disgraced tavistock staff are getting roles in those. so we can not we cannot relax. we've stopped the coup to some extent , and the conservatives extent, and the conservatives have been so helpful in seeing the necessity of this. and it's a vote winner , i've got to say. a vote winner, i've got to say. >> absolutely. i can't understand why they don't get on with it. >> rishi stands up and says, this is stopping. we are no longer teaching gender identity ideology in schools. we are stopping every single private clinic that is prescribing puberty blockers on the internet that he will see a surge in the particularly among women , i particularly among women, i would say particularly among women mothers. >> yeah, mothers.

>> yeah, mothers. >> because can i we've had >> because can i say, we've had so many fathers. >> yeah, i'm sure . >> yeah, i'm sure. >> yeah, i'm sure. >> i'm sure with daughters. rishi has two daughters. rishi has got two daughters. i'm sure parents yeah. sure she's parents know. yeah. if they don't do something their own, they could lose their own children. kate, what's your theory so many theory on why there are so many more now deciding more children now deciding that they're born in the wrong body, using that blame myself. i blame myself for a lot of it. i was an ardent of stonewall. ardent supporter of stonewall. we created a monster. everybody took stonewall. >> the organised campaign for equal rights for gay and lesbian people and then moved on to the transition and up until 2015, stonewall's name was trusted so we could lobby ministers, we could lobby mps, we could talk to anybody. >> and they knew who we were speaking about equality , we speaking about equality, we nothing more, nothing less . nothing more, nothing less. equality under the law. stonewall lost its collective mind in 2015, and they have been promoting this ideology through government, through the civil service that's why a lot of ministers are not making progress, because they're snack

food . food. >> another i was i was talking to a gp yesterday who was saying that what she's seeing now is the anorexia and bulimia have almost disappeared in the clinic and they're being replaced by trans gender conflict crisis. >> look at what's fashionable. yeah, fashionable to be a goth. it's fashionable to be trans or non—binary . non—binary. >> founder of lgb alliance kate harris thank you so much to talk to you. kate. thank you. thank you so i still to come this morning, more on the rebellion inside minister's inside the prime minister's party scrapping of party over the scrapping of the hs2 thank you for hs2 northern leg. thank you for joining britain's joining us. this is britain's newsroom on news, the newsroom on gb news, the people's newsroom on gb news, the peo hello . it's blustery, >> hello. it's a blustery, showery day. welcome to your latest news weather update. latest gb news weather update. i'm burkill . if we start i'm alex burkill. if we start off looking at the bigger picture there an area of picture and there is an area of low pressure to north low pressure just to the north of tightly packed of the uk and tightly packed isobars it is isobars indicate that it is going to be quite windy. breezy for many of us. meanwhile, high pressure is building from the south is to going south and that is to going quieten our weather down across southern week through southern parts this week through the though, southern parts this week through the it's though, southern parts this week through the it's breezy though, southern parts this week through the it's breezy and though, southern parts this week through the it's breezy and therejh, southern parts this week through the it's breezy and there are yes, it's breezy and there are plenty of showers around. some

sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards west towards the north and west of the could be the uk. those showers could be quite there quite heavy at times and there may be rumbles of thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed in as well. temperatures are going to be down a little bit to recently. it's bit compared to recently. it's going fresh at going to feel quite fresh at times, especially those times, especially in those brisk, winds . through brisk, blustery winds. through the of the day, we'll the end of the day, we'll continue see some showers, continue to see some showers, particularly across northern and western clear western parts. some clear skies developing in developing down the east and in the . meanwhile, as developing down the east and in the go . meanwhile, as developing down the east and in thego through . meanwhile, as developing down the east and in the go through the meanwhile, as developing down the east and in thego through the night,nhile, as developing down the east and in the go through the night, we .e, as developing down the east and in the go through the night, we are s we go through the night, we are going a swathe of going to see a swathe of wet weather its from weather pushing its way in from the affecting many parts the west, affecting many parts of scotland. some heavy rain likely here. temperatures aren't going for going to drop a huge amount for many and cities, though. many towns and cities, though. some rural spots towards the east get the clearer east where we get the clearer skies could turn a little chilly. wednesday , then a bit chilly. so wednesday, then a bit of a north south split, a fairly wet picture across many of wet picture across many parts of scotland. cloudy. the rain scotland. quite cloudy. the rain will heavy at and will be heavy at times and building high building up with some high totals, particularly for western parts scotland. meanwhile parts of scotland. meanwhile a drier south, drier picture further south, albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly across parts of wales and southwest england. temperatures be temperatures for many will be

similar today up next, more similar to today up next, more on the split inside the conservative party over whether they will or they won't scrap hs2. >> northern interest secret. they're scrapping it. but we just don't know when the prime minister is going to tell us. get with and get on with it, rishi. and we you what? you know what? >> desperate for cup of >> we're desperate for a cup of tea or coffee here, right? we're desperate. queues long. >> when i queued up for my cup of yesterday, i said to the of tea yesterday, i said to the very here in very nice girl here in manchester said, manchester conference and said, can a english can i have a cup of english breakfast? sorry, love, breakfast? he said, sorry, love, we normal tea. we only sell normal tea. i smiled sweetly and said that that'll fine. that'll be fine. >> this city. are in >> i love this city. we are in the greatest in the world. the greatest city in the world. we're this we're in manchester this morning. got soaked in we're in manchester this morrain, got soaked in we're in manchester this morrain, i'd got soaked in we're in manchester this morrain, i'd forgot got soaked in we're in manchester this morrain, i'd forgot myt soaked in the rain, i'd forgot my undennear. hendrella. what an idiot. right. undennear. hendrella. what an idicthisght. undennear. hendrella. what an idicthisgh'britain's newsroom >> this is britain's newsroom i'm gb news people's i'm gb news the people's channel.

>> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> it's 10:00 >> good morning. >> it's10:00 on >> good morning. >> it's 10:00 on tuesday, the 3rd of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. we are, as might have we are, as you might have noticed, at the manchester noticed, live at the manchester tory rails. rishi

>> so off the rails. rishi sunak. well he's going to, but you don't know when he's you just don't know when he's going to scrap between going to scrap hs2 between birmingham the birmingham and manchester. the justice secretary, alex chalk has behind has thrown his support behind the not sure that decision >> i'm not sure that decision has that decision has been made. that decision hasn't made. prime hasn't been made. this prime minister right thing minister does the right thing on the evidence, minister does the right thing on the calmly, evidence, minister does the right thing on the calmly, unemotionally. coolly, calmly, unemotionally. >> women ban health >> trans women ban health secretary steve barclay describes ban trans describes his plan to ban trans women female hospital wards women from female hospital wards as on as common sense and war on woke the kemi badenoch. >> she delivered a tubthumping rousing on gender rousing speech on race, gender and she and brexit yesterday and she said the best country said britain is the best country in be black. said britain is the best country in i be black. said britain is the best country in i tell be black. said britain is the best country in i tell my be black. said britain is the best country in i tell my childrenvlack. said britain is the best country in i tell my children that. said britain is the best country in i tell my children that this >> i tell my children that this is the best country in the world to be black because it is a country people, country that sees people, not labels. it time for a labels. and is it time for a cheaper food shop for the first time in two years, there's been a monthly drop in food prices. >> will this trend continue? we're going to get the thoughts of minister state for of the minister of state for food morning . food this morning. get in touch with us this morning on email, gb views at gbnews.com. as always . but first

gbnews.com. as always. but first of all, here is your news with . aaron >> hey, good morning to you. it's a minute past ten. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. businesses are demanding clarity as demanding immediate clarity as confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2 . there's growing speculation hs2. there's growing speculation the government planning to the government is planning to scrap birmingham to scrap the birmingham to manchester because of manchester leg because of soaring but the prime soaring costs. but the prime minister insists the decision is yet to be taken. sunak is yet to be taken. rishi sunak is expected to make an announcement, though about the project conservative project at the conservative party conference tomorrow . party conference tomorrow. meanwhile, the government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards. the health secretary, steve barclay, is expected to say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs. in his speech at the tory conference, he'll announce proposals to push back on wokery in the health service. he told the telegraph the move will protect rights . under protect women's rights. under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate

accommodation . junior doctors accommodation. junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the conference centre in manchester later . they've manchester later. they've started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay radiographers have also walked out for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. the bma , the british have scans. the bma, the british medical association, wants the government to return to the negotiating table, warning if a credible deal isn't offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december. the government says this year's pay rise was a final and fair settlement . it more murderers settlement. it more murderers who carry out sexually motivated attacks will automatically face attacks will automatically face a whole life sentence under new powers . the legal expectation on powers. the legal expectation on judges will apply retrospectively to those who've already committed the crime, but are yet to be sentenced . the are yet to be sentenced. the justice secretary, alex chalk , justice secretary, alex chalk, says for the most dangerous and depraved killers, life really should mean life, where that is the option that judges should be thinking about as an initial

proposition . proposition. >> it now becomes the default. so it's what should happen. unless, of course , the judge unless, of course, the judge decides there are exceptional circumstances. and we think that puts law in the right place, puts the law in the right place, that instincts of the that meets the instincts of the british people and, as i say, does you does justice and provides, you know, crumb of comfort for know, a crumb of comfort for families after the most appalling crimes that they feel justice is truly being served . justice is truly being served. >> the justice secretary is also expected to announce plans to introduce jade's law to parliament, named afterjade ward, who was murdered by russell marshall in 2021. the bill will strip parental rights from those who kill their partner , despite serving at partner, despite serving at least 25 years in prison, he still retains parental rights in the united states . donald trump the united states. donald trump has attacked a judge and prosecutor on the first day of his $250 million trial in new york. the former us president is accused of fraud , falsification accused of fraud, falsification of business records , issuing of business records, issuing false financial statements and conspiracy. attorney general letitia james accused him of

generating more than $100 million by lying about his property empire and materials . property empire and materials. he overvaluing his assets . but he overvaluing his assets. but trump hit back, saying the trial is a sham. ms james is corrupt and the judge should be disbarred , along with making disbarred, along with making fresh claims of election interference . interference. >> it has been very successful for them because they took me off the campaign trail because they've been sitting in a courthouse all day long instead of being in iowa, new hampshire , south carolina, or a lot of other places, i could be at this is a horrible situation for our country. it's never happened before . it's election before. it's election interference . they're interference. they're interfering with the presidential election of 2024 and the people of our country see it. the price of a monthly food shop has fallen for the first time in more than two years. >> the prices were down by 0.1% on average in september, compared to the previous month. that's according to the british retail consortium . it brought retail consortium. it brought the annual rate of food

inflation down to 9.9. that's the lowest point since last august. the group, which lobbies on behalf of the industry, says it's because of fierce competition between supermarkets and emergency services have spent the night tackling a huge fire after lightning struck a recycling plant in oxfordshire . recycling plant in oxfordshire. a fireball lit up the sky when a gas tank exploded at a food processing plant in cassington . processing plant in cassington. if firefighters are still monitoring the site, no injuries , though, have been reported . , though, have been reported. this is gb news across the uk on your digital radio and on your smart speaker to just say play gb news. now it's back to andrew and . bev and. bev >> well, we're expecting rishi sunak to finally tell us he's scrapping the hs2 rail line from birmingham to manchester, but we don't know if it's going to come in his keynote speech tomorrow or but certainly or when. but he's certainly going delegates that

going to tell delegates that it's review. right. it's under review. that's right. it's it's over. and it's finished. it's over. and it will free more than £10 will free up more than £10 billion spend on other billion to spend on other transport infrastructure projects . projects. >> we're joined now by david campbell—bannerman, founder of the conservative democratic organisation . good morning, organisation. good morning, david. first of all, will you explain to viewers and explain to our viewers and listeners the listeners what is the conservative democratic organisation course? organisation nation? of course? >> well , cdo, exist for >> well, cdo, we exist for greater party democracy and we have a seven step agenda like an elected chair , seven elected chair, seven constituencies choosing their own candidates. this used to happen , but it doesn't happen happen, but it doesn't happen now. it's all very central ized. democracy matters because as if you get the members put back in charge, then actually they reflect the public's views better for and the whole party attracts more members, more support overall. that's why it m atters. >> b ut matters. >> but david, you are in danger of becoming a party within a party. lord cruddas, who founded this organisation with you about a year ago. he said in his speech here on sunday night, don't give any more money to the tory party . give the money to

tory party. give the money to your organisation . you don't your organisation. you don't give any money to the tory party. grows, grinds to party. it grows, grinds to a halt. or 16 halt. and there were 15 or 16 tory that dinner, wildly tory mps at that dinner, wildly clapping cheering . they're clapping and cheering. they're going to be for the high jump mate. m ate. >> mate. >> well, the thrust of that was, you know, let's channel those funds directly to certain mps who support democratic values . who support democratic values. it's not like, you know , abandon it's not like, you know, abandon the party because we're very pro the party because we're very pro the party because we're very pro the party and we want to win the next election. >> you were more pro the party when it was led by boris johnson. >> yes, but we're not about we're actually about party democracy and party reform. we're not actually about any individuals. so it's not just individuals. so it's notjust about boris , you know, he's not about boris, you know, he's not even an mp at the moment, but we are you know, it really matters. democracy see, because, you know, membership has collapsed . know, membership has collapsed. but it was half a million when we had the new constitution in 1998 and the william hague . and 1998 and the william hague. and now we're looking at what, 140,000? >> we don't even know. >> we don't even know. >> they won't tell us what's changed. that means that your

organisation is now necessary when it wasn't before . when it wasn't before. >> it's always been necessary andits >> it's always been necessary and it's not like suddenly ansen. and it's not like suddenly arisen . it's just i think we are arisen. it's just i think we are losing members in droves and we're about to put up the membership fee in january by something like 60, and i think that will be the trigger to drive many people away. i mean , drive many people away. i mean, tries to keep people on board. we have nigel farage came to our dinner on sunday night and we were delighted to welcome him and delighted. >> he got a rather big, loud round of applause. >> . but but, know, we >> he did. but but, you know, we want to bring, you know, unite the centre, right? really. and cdo the centre, right? really. and cd0 and we do encourage people to come back from reform and other parties and that can be very powerful . you know, you're very powerful. you know, you're talking about likes of 50% plus when you get it right. we saw it under theresa may briefly. we saw it under boris . you're saw it under boris. you're talking about 50% of the country. actually you know, back the centre right gender. i sensed it at the dinner. >> i sensed it here yesterday when nigel farage walked in

here. it was like the return of the of the king. it was extraordinary. it was the parting of the sea, crowds parting of the red sea, crowds gathering around, people crowding here to hear what he had say here on stand. had to say here on the stand. with on news yesterday, with me on gb news yesterday, all the photograph with all wanting the photograph with him. he is king the him. he is the king across the water, isn't he? him. he is the king across the watwell,|'t he? him. he is the king across the watwell,|'t h(got was his >> well, i've got i was his deputy leader at ukip. i've i came back to conservative party. i think he may back to us i think he may come back to us hopefully. do you think so? i you know , i, i think it's you know, i, i think it's entirely possible if you get the formula right. i mean, cdo is exists, as i say, to represent the centre right where nigel is quite happy with that sort of realm and reform in our electoral system and reform is on 6, 8. we know it's not going to win. mps it's a very hard formula unless you have proportional representation, which has a lot of problems with it. so so internal reform, which is what cdos is about, i think is what cdos is about, i think is a far better alternative than setting up yet another party or,

you know, 2, 8. >> how does the prime minister view your organisation ? view your organisation? >> well, mick's , to be honest, >> well, mick's, to be honest, did he send a message of goodwill when you launched it? >> recall it. >> i don't recall it. >> i don't recall it. >> oh, no, no. look we're not anti rishi. it's important to say that we are about party democracy. we're working well with hands. the party with greg hands. the party chairman. yeah, but. chairman. chairman. yeah, but. but you know, we are calling for quite radical reforms. but if we put the members back in charge , put the members back in charge, then i think the whole party will be stronger. you'll get you could get like in canada, hundreds of thousands of members came back to the conservative party. there's a good model there and we need to we need more activists. i mean , more activists. i mean, elections, not many people are turning up to help. yeah it'll be a far more effective fighting i >> well, it doesn't feel if you've if we're going into the general election where the conservative party presiding over this over the highest tax burden this country since second country has had since the second world would people world war, why would people clamour the conservative clamour to join the conservative party? not a conservative party? it's not a conservative thing tax people so

thing to do to tax people so heavily. you see, we heavily. well, well, you see, we say, you know, what do you get for membership if you can't for your membership if you can't use your mp because central office? >> do it for you you get >> do it for you and you get told who you having. if you can't elect the party leader. i mean, rishi sunak the problem with an elected was it's not about rishi, but about the way he elected. it was actually he was elected. it was actually , him even , well, who voted for him even the mps didn't vote for it. yeah, and it doesn't help him. there's no democratic mandate. and also policy. who listens to members on policy now there are you cpf or whatever it is, but we want a policy forum , the we want a policy forum, the spnng we want a policy forum, the spring conference. you know, it's a very technical conference in spring. we want to turn it into policy conference. so ministers actually listen to policy ideas. then they come back in october and they roll out their , you know, accepted out their, you know, accepted policy. but all of this will drive membership because it'd be worth being a member , i guess. worth being a member, i guess. >> i guess what you're saying as well is there's a sort of dissatisfaction and a disillusioned politics disillusioned with politics outside of westminster to some

degree, outside of these sorts of keir starmer of events. keir starmer obviously proposing 16 year olds get vote . maybe you need to get the vote. maybe you need to get the vote. maybe you need to get people in younger, get the vote 16 year olds. how would vote to 16 year olds. how would you feel about that? well, funnily enough, i i'm actually quite pro it. >> i saw in scotland i helped in the scottish referendum. i'm half scots you i think it's an and we were against independence . of course i was yeah we better check very pro—union . good. but check very pro—union. good. but i did see what was funny because there was that controversy then about 16 year olds voting. yeah. and i met a lot of schoolchildren at various offices who were very engaged . offices who were very engaged. and actually i think getting young people engaged is not a bad idea. young people engaged is not a badidea.so young people engaged is not a bad idea. so maybe i'm slightly out of there. >> i think i'm with you on that, david. no, i think you take it seriously. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> can we ask you about a big policy that is apparently tearing the tory party apart? if you to the hs2 , you listen to the bbc, hs2, look, obviously to look, he's obviously going to cancel . it's a it's a very cancel it. it's a it's a very bad optic that this debate is

happening while we're in manchester in a former railway station. yeah. >> david the midland railway. station. yeah. >> youid the midland railway. station. yeah. >> you could midland railway. station. yeah. >> you could midlan make way. station. yeah. >> you could midlan make out >> you could hardly make out railway 1969, but railway station till 1969, but actually, beth and i, we talked about it. we actually think get rid because it's not very rid of it because it's not very popular it's probably popular anyway. it's probably a vote winner. and the money you'd popular anyway. it's probably a vote from zr. and the money you'd popular anyway. it's probably a vote from cancelling money you'd popular anyway. it's probably a vote from cancelling it,)ney you'd popular anyway. it's probably a vote from cancelling it, you you'd save from cancelling it, you spend projects linking spend on rail projects linking up and west across the pennines. >> well, i'm i worked on hs1, which is the channel tunnel railway and that was that was supposed to go up. >> scotland was supposed to be connection never happened. >> it was very well engineered to kings cross. it followed existing lines, existing to kings cross. it followed existin hs2. lines, existing to kings cross. it followed existin hs2. think es, existing to kings cross. it followed existinhs2. think is existing to kings cross. it followed existin hs2. think is veryting to kings cross. it followed existinhs2. think is very bad. roads, hs2. i think is very bad. the engineer, because it goes hell for leather, 400km/h and it's a lot of tunnelling, which is very expensive of course, and so i, i query whether there's any business case. now for london, birmingham, if you're not going to go further to manchester, the business case falls apart. if you don't come to manchester. but i'm afraid, you know, i think things have moved on. there are better ways of getting here and i've done my

own paper net as on my personal website, but it's about using the east coast main line , which the east coast main line, which is very flat, very fast . no is very flat, very fast. no tunnelling required at. and mallard got the world's speed record in the 1930 on that railway line for a reason because it's very straight now. you could go to doncaster and then link up with the one that you really want to build , which you really want to build, which is people have is hs3 because people have really struggled between i think, yeah, i said, well, leeds to manchester 40 miles that is worth building. liverpool hull could be a new economic area like the south. >> does this tell us that he's listened, that rishi sunak has actually listened to people like you who know this system, who understand , and the pros and understand, and the pros and cons. he's looked at the costs and benefits and made a and the benefits and made a sensible . sensible decision. >> i welcome the fact >> i mean, i welcome the fact that the prime minister is turning to returning to pragmatic conservatism like net zero. very good. and it's questioning costs , you know, are questioning costs, you know, are the benefits worth these massive

costs , especially the know it's costs, especially the know it's all out of control role. and i think it has been a gravy train. i mean, i know it's a bit of a, you know, cliche, but there's a lot of people getting huge amounts of money out of this without really see the case for it being properly explained. there are better ways of investing in rail. i'm doing a project on railway reopenings as an anti beeching right around the country , which i hope to the country, which i hope to launch later this year. i thought they were going to do that. >> didn't wasn't that one of the announcements the last announcements of the last government? to government? they were going to reopen the stations that reopen all the stations that were in were closed down by beeching in the all of them, of >> not all of them, but some of them okehampton been them okehampton has been reopened. that's fantastic. and various could be various stations could be reopened. this reopened. but, you know, this money tens of billions, money for hs2, tens of billions, you know, could actually transform rail right across the network. and i think we've come to a point now we've got to really challenge, you know, what are we trying to do ? we can't are we trying to do? we can't afford just throw money at

afford to just throw money at this, not with cost of living . this, not with cost of living. so know, i think it's so i you know, i think it's right for the prime minister to actually . actually reveal. >> the home >> and briefly, the home secretary this secretary will speak this afternoon. braverman she afternoon. suella braverman she she some some cabinet she is some some cabinet ministers refusing to ministers are refusing to endorse what the language she uses. welcome language uses. i welcome her language because she tells it as it is. it ain't working . the it ain't working. the immigration we've got immigration system. we've got to stop these boats crossing the channel. they're illegal migrants . migrants. >> would fully behind >> yeah, i would fully behind suella braverman. i thought it was a brave speech. there was a but it was right. you was a brave speech. there was a but it was right . you know, it but it was right. you know, it was a measured speech. it wasn't extreme. we've got to address these issues because if we don't address them, there are extreme groups that will arise. you're seeing it like sweden has had to sendin seeing it like sweden has had to send in its army, you know, because of the problems created by mass immigration. we don't want to go down that road. i was involved in northern ireland peace process. i know what it's like the army the like using the army in the streets. salute her for it. streets. so i salute her for it. and she's created a debate . and she's created a debate. let's have rational debate. let's have a rational debate. let's have a rational debate. let's get hysterical. let's not get hysterical. >> yeah, very reasonable . david >> yeah, very reasonable. david campbell always

campbell bannerman always reasonable. founder of reasonable. yeah founder of the conservative democratic organisation what boris, organisation. what about boris, by is any chance we by the way? is any chance we love him? >> boris, he's here. >> whereas boris, he's not here. >> whereas boris, he's not here. >> imagine was here, he'd >> imagine if he was here, he'd be. it'd be a beauty competition between him and nigel farage, wouldn't would win? wouldn't it? who would win? >> what did they get together? >> what did they get together? >> win two. >> who would win those two. yeah, know. well which one yeah, i know. well which one would leader? would be the leader? >> yeah, right. would be the leader? >> still, right. i'm going to >> still to come, i'm going to be little walk around be having a little walk around the going to the conference. i'm going to speak members speak to some party members here on this is britain's on the floor. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. hello >> showery day. >> it's a blustery, showery day. welcome to latest news welcome to your latest gb news weather burkill weather update. i'm alex burkill . start off looking at the . if we start off looking at the bigger there an bigger picture and there is an area pressure just to the area of low pressure just to the north of the tightly north of the uk and tightly packed indicate it packed isobars indicate that it is quite windy. is going to be quite windy. breezy for many us. breezy for many of us. meanwhile, pressure is meanwhile, high pressure is building from the south and that is going quieten our weather building from the south and that is gacross|uieten our weather building from the south and that is gacross southern |r weather building from the south and that is gacross southern|r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough outhern |r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the|ern|r weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the restr weathis building from the south and that is ithrough the rest of'eathis week through the rest of tuesday, though, it's tuesday, though, yes, it's breezy and there plenty of breezy and there are plenty of showers some sunny showers around. some sunny spells the showers, spells in between the showers, but particularly towards the north of the those north and west of the uk. those showers quite heavy at showers could be quite heavy at times may be some times and there may be some rumbles of thunder in as rumbles of thunder mixed in as well. temperatures are going to

be a little compared to be down a little bit compared to recently. going to feel recently. it's going to feel quite at times, especially recently. it's going to feel quthose at times, especially recently. it's going to feel quthose brisk, times, especially recently. it's going to feel quthose brisk, blustery pecially recently. it's going to feel quthose brisk, blustery windsy recently. it's going to feel quthose brisk, blustery winds . in those brisk, blustery winds. through the end of the day, we'll continue to see some showers, particularly across northern and western some showers, particularly across north skies1d western some showers, particularly across north skies developing some showers, particularly across north skies developing fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s developing fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheeloping fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheelopingas fthe e showers, particularly across nortiand 3s itheelopingas ft.e e east and in the south as well. meanwhile, as we go through the night, a night, we are going to see a swathe weather pushing swathe of wet weather pushing its way in from the west, affecting parts of affecting many parts of scotland. some heavy rain likely here. temperatures aren't going to amount for many to drop a huge amount for many towns though. towns and cities, though. some rural towards the east rural spots towards the east where we get the clearer skies could chilly. could turn a little chilly. so wednesday then of a north wednesday, then a bit of a north south split, a fairly wet picture across many parts of scotland, quite cloudy. the rain will at times will be heavy at times and building high building up with some high totals, particularly western totals, particularly for western parts scotland. meanwhile parts of scotland. meanwhile a drier picture further south, albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly parts particularly across parts of wales and southwest england. temperatures be temperatures for many will be similar to today

mornings from 930 on. >> gb news . >> gb news. >> gb news. >> welcome back to the tory party conference here in manchester. >> i've got out of our little studios. have a walk around this huge train station as it was huge old train station as it was the convention centre here. now this is the conservative party shop. really are a big shop. so if you really are a big fan the conservative fan of the conservative party, then sorts of then you can buy all sorts of merchandise. they have an apron here with margaret thatcher on it. not for it. this food is not for burning. i must say i'm quite a fan of an apron, but their best selling item are the keir starmer flip flops. obviously

you understand the 1699 for a pair of flip flops. i think that's quite expensive actually . so there's all sorts of people here this morning . it's a really here this morning. it's a really interesting opportunity to get together and see who does support the conservative party. todayi support the conservative party. today i found these four very young gentlemen who just arrived. hello. your name is louis. louis, you are a young conservative party member. >> why ? well, you know, i just >> why? well, you know, i just think it's been a time think it's been a tough time recently just my family recently and it's just my family grew conservatives. i grew up as conservatives. and i just i've got to stick with my family , with family family, stick with the family roots, know, amazing. family, stick with the family roots, ross, iw, amazing. family, stick with the family roots, ross, how mazing. family, stick with the family roots, ross, how about]. family, stick with the family roots, ross, how about you? >> and ross, how about you? where's interest where's your interest in politics from ? politics come from? >> so my interest comes from my family well. i'm obviously my family as well. i'm obviously my family as well. i'm obviously my family have been conservative all of all my life. so it's kind of been with it. been brought up with it. >> they make come here? >> do they make you come here? >> do they make you come here? >> absolutely not. it's my >> no, absolutely not. it's my own choice. agree with own choice. but i agree with lots of the principles of the party. so you're the of party. so so you're the kind of boy. sit at home having >> so you sit at home having your with your family >> so you sit at home having you|chat with your family >> so you sit at home having you|chat about1 your family >> so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. mily >> so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. iiily >> so you sit at home having you|chat about politics. i feel like. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so especially like my granny

and stuff, you can get into like really interesting debates with like old like people from like the old generation kind generation stuff. you can kind of views, of like contrast views, especially sister and especially with my sister and stuff more being like going to off having different stuff more being like going to off to having different stuff more being like going to off to different; different stuff more being like going to off to different; differe||t's views to different people. it's quite feel like quite interesting. i feel like doing college kind doing politics at college kind of that allows to of fuels that and allows you to kind contrasting kind of have like contrasting views with other people and get into debates. into nice little debates. so. >> so you're are you all studying politics as well? >> are you at sixth form >> are you all at sixth form college together high school >> are you all at sixth form co whatever? .her high school >> are you all at sixth form co whatever? and high school >> are you all at sixth form co whatever? and whath school >> are you all at sixth form co whatever? and what do :hool >> are you all at sixth form co whatever? and what do your or whatever? and what do your friends say that friends say when you say that you're of the you're a member of the conservative it's conservative party? because it's traditionally for the older voter. the stereotype, voter. that's the stereotype, isn't it? >> well, i believe another part of being a conservative party member is believing in economic liberalism, which many of our generation don't seem to understand . understand. >> and well, tell our >> and yeah, well, tell our viewers, what do you mean by economic liberalism? sorry. i feel i'm now giving a feel like i'm now giving you a little test your a—level little test on your a—level syllabus a bit mean, syllabus that was a bit mean, but go on, explain you but go on, explain what you mean. able the free market, >> being able the free market, low , low corporate taxes low taxes, low corporate taxes and allowing businesses to thrive. >> yeah, well, that's amazing, guys. and what would you say is

the difference, ross, between the difference, ross, between the conservative party today and labour? >> well, i just think at the moment there's a big stigma about the conservative party that a lot of people who maybe aren't educated in the field aren't as educated in the field think but really think about it, but really i think about it, but really i think it's quite easy for maybe the labour party to say they'll do things when they're not in power, i it's a lot power, and i think it's a lot more difficult when they really empower you to things empower you to get things through . empower you to get things thr(well, done, lads. thank >> well, well done, lads. thank you . oh, thank you all so much you. oh, thank you all so much for to us on gb news. for talking to us on gb news. you see, it's funny, isn't it? the conservative party is in pretty it seems, in pretty safe hands, it seems, in the next generation. andrew, the next generation. an. andrew, back now . back to you for now. >> you, bev. now, >> thank you, bev. now, competition between supermarkets has led to the first monthly drop in food prices for more than two years. the british retail consortium said prices in september down not much, but 0.1% previous month . 0.1% from the previous month. with perfect timing, we're joined by the minister for food, with perfect timing, we're joined bjande minister for food, with perfect timing, we're joined bjand fisheries, for food, with perfect timing, we're joined bjand fisheries, markod, farming and fisheries, mark spencen farming and fisheries, mark spencer. did you write this script in advance? i mean, food's been going up relentlessly, relentlessly , and relentlessly, relentlessly, and now we've had the first fall for two years.

>> think to be fair, it's, you >> i think to be fair, it's, you know, the prime minister is, is mounting this war on inflation. it's important we it's really important that we get of inflation because get a grip of inflation because it does low paid it really does damage low paid and who've and pensioners and people who've who've got assets. so who've not got assets. so inflation is our primary battle. i think we continue to invest in our uk food producers and our farmers to try and make sure we're as efficient as possible. but are driven by the but we are we are driven by the winds of a pandemic and winds of a global pandemic and a war in europe, which has had an enormous effect on people's standard of living. >> is the war >> how big a factor is the war in with the impact on in ukraine with the impact on the price? the grain price? >> mean, it's so ukraine >> i mean, it's huge. so ukraine was the breadbasket of europe . was the breadbasket of europe. it nearly 70% of it produces nearly 70% of sunflower oil , which you won't sunflower oil, which you won't know that you consume. but every walkers crisp, of course, is cooked in sunflower oil. so it's had a huge impact on on grain movements around the world. and the price of protein , if you the price of protein, if you like. and that does drive all the way through the food sector. so it knocks on to poultry pnces so it knocks on to poultry prices , to pig prices, to milk prices, to pig prices, to milk pnces prices, to pig prices, to milk prices , and it makes it very

prices, and it makes it very challenging for farmers up and down the country . down the country. >> what can the government do to help families? is watching this programme are really struggling with the shopping they with the shopping bill. they look supermarket look at the supermarket and they have something have to take something out because they can't because they realise they can't afford yeah well, so, afford to pay it. yeah well, so, so number one, of course the chancellor's huge amount chancellor's put a huge amount of cash into supporting families with to with their energy bills and to make they afford make sure that they can afford to pay their energy, actually paying to pay their energy, actually paying half the energy paying almost half the energy bill of people up and down the country. >> but government, we're >> but as a government, we're also supporting our farmers also supporting our uk farmers to they be to make sure that they can be profitable, can profitable, but also can continue produce top quality continue to produce top quality food at reasonable price for food at a reasonable price for our something which our consumers, something which they've generations and they've done for generations and something should something which we should be very grateful what about very grateful for. what about the ? so of course the supermarkets? so of course we've got to have fairness in the supply chain. >> is there fairness? >> is there fairness? >> so i think so. let's not let's not bash supermarkets too hard because be them, hard because to be fair to them, why not the way through the why not all the way through the pandemic, we had food on the shelves. know, they've shelves. sure. you know, they've done of keeping us done a good job of keeping us well fed. actually, when you look price of a of a look at the price of a of a basket in uk, it's basket of goods in the uk, it's much it is france

much lower than it is in france and germany. because of and germany. that's because of the competitiveness of our supermarket there supermarket sector. but there has that has to be fairness in that supply you've got to supply chain. so you've got to have who get rewarded have farmers who get rewarded for risk they're taking in for the risk they're taking in producing those commodities and those crops. and if the retailer is taking all of the profit and the farmer is taking all the risk unfair. risk that is unfair. >> now, speak from interest >> now, you speak from interest because know about because you know all about farming you're milk farming. if you're a milk farmer, how much milk is the farmer, how much milk is the farmer getting? if they sell farmer getting? and if they sell a pint of milk, so literally, you know, be down at you know, it can be down at £0.30 a litre at certain times of when compare that you >> when you compare that to, you know pint in the in know, a pound a pint in the in the shops. so i think we've got to make sure that enough of that profit gets passed down the supply chain to the farmer. profit gets passed down the supply chain to the farmer . and supply chain to the farmer. and that's why we're actually going to to make sure to legislate to make sure that those dairy contracts are fair to everybody who's in the dairy sector. >> also, we know that the >> and also, we know that the various looking various regulators are looking at supermarkets about about at the supermarkets about about the labelling and all that sort of thing. but i was listening to the minister this morning. of thing. but i was listening to thedid minister this morning. of thing. but i was listening to thedid 2 minister this morning. of thing. but i was listening to thedid 2 mirbroadcastmorning. he did 2 or 3 broadcast interviews. he was pressed every time, possibly

time, how could you possibly know what the cost of living crisis you're crisis is like when you're married to the daughter of a billionaire? he's the richest prime ever had. prime minister we've ever had. is fair criticism, minister? >> don't think >> no, i actually don't think that a i mean, of all the that is a i mean, of all the prime ministers we've seen, you know, does to very know, rishi does seem to be very in normal people and in tune with normal people and with with with certainly with my constituent points. he's a very thoughtful man . he actually thoughtful man. he actually considers happening in considers what's happening in the and he wants to the world and he wants to improve and i think improve that. and i and i think actually blessed with him actually we're blessed with him as minister this moment. >> but but, but, but but he but he the richest premier we've he is the richest premier we've ever had. >> well, so it makes him it means he can't bought. >> well, so it makes him it me its he can't bought. >> well, so it makes him it me its he ca he bought. >> well, so it makes him it me its he ca he can't ught. >> well, so it makes him it me its he ca he can'tbe1t. >> it means he can't be influenced. think it makes influenced. i think it makes him wholly his wholly independent and his thought know, thought process. yeah, you know, i think i think whether he's rich whether i think i think whether he's rich not, whether i think i think whether he's rich not, i whether i think i think whether he's rich not, i think whether i think i think whether he's rich not, i think he'svhether he's not, i think he's irrelevant. matters are irrelevant. what matters is are his policies right? is he taking the right the country in the right direction? care ? i direction? does he care? and i think all those cases, you think in all of those cases, you can say he absolutely does. >> the home secretary is going to speak afternoon, suella to speak this afternoon, suella braverman reluctant embrace been a bit reluctant to embrace the he uses to describe the language he uses to describe the language he uses to describe the battle against illegal migration across the channel. is

she speaking the language that you understand ? you understand? >> think what she's saying >> so i think what she's saying is and we can all sign up to this conventions around , if this the conventions around, if you like, migration were developed in the 50s. i think clearly the world is a very different place. and we just need work with need to work with our international partners make need to work with our interthatwnal partners make need to work with our interthat we partners make need to work with our interthat we are tners make need to work with our interthat we are inzrs make need to work with our interthat we are in the make need to work with our interthat we are in the right(e sure that we are in the right place today. i think that's an interesting conversation be interesting conversation to be had internationally , of had internationally, but of course want and smash had internationally, but of cours(terrible1t and smash had internationally, but of cours(terrible gangs and smash had internationally, but of cours(terrible gangs that:i smash had internationally, but of cours(terrible gangs that are1ash these terrible gangs that are exploiting very vulnerable people . bad years to do it well people. bad years to do it well and of course, and we've been frustrated by the courts and we've been frustrated by the commons and the labour party vote against all this stuff, but we're to deliver it. we we're going to deliver it. we are rwanda is very to are rwanda is very close to working. we're going make working. we're going to make sure through the backlog sure we get through the backlog and to place where and we'll get to a place where immigration something we can immigration is something we can control as a tool. so control and use as a tool. so immigration is for good our economy we are using people economy and we are using people within the economy. the immigrants. but of course, we've got to stop the illegal immigration. >> all right. will you be will you hall her on? >> i've got unfortunately, i've

got to go and do another event. but there for the prime but i'll be there for the prime minister. all right. >> that's spencer. the >> that's mark spencer. he's the minister food, >> that's mark spencer. he's the minister and food, >> that's mark spencer. he's the minister and fisheriesood, >> that's mark spencer. he's the minister and fisheries with good farming and fisheries with good news. first time in two news. for the first time in two years, prices fell last years, food prices fell last month. to come, kemi month. still to come, kemi badenoch of badenoch says opponents of brexit relentlessly trying brexit are relentlessly trying to we're to talk down our country. we're going to be joined by a passionate remainer the passionate remainer in the labour party, of course. here's the . aaron the news with. aaron >> it is 1032. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. businesses are demanding immediate clarity as confusion, confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2 . there's growing speculation hs2. there's growing speculation the government is planning to scrap the birmingham to manchester leg because of soaring costs . but the prime soaring costs. but the prime minister insists the decision is yet to be made. rishi sunak is expected to make an announcement, though, on the project the conservative project at the conservative party conference tomorrow . the party conference tomorrow. the government is set to ban trans women from female hospital wards. the health secretary, steve barclay, is expected to

say the plan will help restore common sense to the nhs . in his common sense to the nhs. in his speech at the tory conference, he'll announce proposals to push back on wokery in the health service. he told the telegraph the move will protect women's rights . under the changes, trans rights. under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation . a junior separate accommodation. a junior doctors will hold a rally outside the conference centre in manchester later this afternoon. they've started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay radiographers have also walked out for 24 hours, so tens of thousands of patients won't be able to have scans. the british medical association wants the government to return to the negotiating table and has warned that if a credible deal isn't offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december. government says december. the government says this rise was a final this year's pay rise was a final and fair settlement . murderers and fair settlement. murderers who carry out sexually motivated attacks will automatically face attacks will automatically face a whole life sentence under new powers. the legal expectation on judges will apply retrospectively to those who've

already been charged with a crime but are yet to be sentenced. the justice secretary, alex chalk, says for the most dangerous and depraved killers , life really should mean killers, life really should mean life . more on all of our stories life. more on all of our stories on our website, gbnews.com. and i'll be back with more a little later this morning . later this morning. >> direct bullion sponsors the financial report on gb news for gold and silver investment . and gold and silver investment. and a quick look at the markets today. >> the pound buys you $1.2079, ,1.1523. the price of gold. £1,510.47 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is . at 7537 points. ftse 100 is. at 7537 points. >> direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter . investments that matter. >> you know , for the business

>> you know, for the business and trade secretary kemi badenoch became the latest minister, well, they say, to set out her leadership aspirations. last night she warned that the benefits risk benefits of brexit risk being lost if sir keir starmer gets into government claiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labouriment claiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader laiming lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader does ng lost if sir keir starmer gets into labour leader does not the labour leader does not believe in uk's ability to believe in the uk's ability to think for itself, well the former labour minister for europe, denis macshane , joins us europe, denis macshane, joins us and absolutely know he's and we absolutely know he's going fundamentally going to fundamentally disagree with everything that kemi badenoch said , which is why badenoch said, which is why we've invited him on, because in gb news we like to have a lively discussion. dennis good morning. how discussion. dennis good morning. hovgood morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> is how is manchester? >> how is how is manchester? >> how is how is manchester? >> it's well, it's a bit wet, to be honest , but but beverley , be honest, but but beverley, she's, she's, she's in the mother city. yeah. now dennis i think kemi badenoch . yeah. think kemi badenoch. yeah. dennis i think kemi badenoch speech so far has been the highlight from the platform . i'm highlight from the platform. i'm punchy detail . well, taking the punchy detail. well, taking the argument to opponents and she was pretty robust on . brexit

was pretty robust on. brexit >> are you going to take pay a clip? i'm sorry, andrew. no, you're not. okay well, i didn't really get what she was trying. oh how nice . i love the last oh how nice. i love the last minister you had on who said we were blessed ? the country was were blessed? the country was blessed to have rishi sunak as prime minister. i've never heard the invocation of god , of being the invocation of god, of being blessed because we have a particular prime minister but that's just the way the tory party is going. i didn't know what she was talking about because actually all the party leaders, ed davey, sir keir starmer, richard sunak are on the same page. no rejoin, no . the same page. no rejoin, no. the customs union, no return to freedom of movement . and she's a freedom of movement. and she's a bit like the minister, claire coutinho, who we saw yesterday saying that labour wants to tax meat, which is challenged . and meat, which is challenged. and she just kept blustering and blustering and blustering away. so we've got this fantasy

conference now where ministers p°p conference now where ministers pop up conference now where ministers pop up and just say things that are completely untrue . what are completely untrue. what about what she said about b rexit? >> brexit? >> she said, they tell you brexit is costing britain 4% of gdp per year. wrong the uk's recovery from covid has outpaced france and germany and that is according to the office for budget responsibility. dennis facts even you can't disagree with that . with that. >> oh, look, it's very clear that in in monetary terms, because of the hugely inflationary pound that we are getting more money at the moment. but in volume terms, our exporters are screaming because they've lost all access. our service professionals can't do any work in europe except under incredibly complicated boris johnson papennork and bureaucracy . our young people, bureaucracy. our young people, even our our craft beer are independent craft beer firms have had to shut down because they can't access the necessary ingredients. so bits of the british economy . british economy. >> dennis this isn't yeah.

dennis the service exports have gone up, they've gone higher . gone up, they've gone higher. we're in, we're in the top five now. which service exports. >> yeah, because of. andrew i've delighted . i don't have many delighted. i don't have many consultant friends in kpmg and hawaii and the, the other great consultancy firms. they're doing very well because they can go abroad . they go abroad actually abroad. they go abroad actually outside of europe. they've always done very well . that always done very well. that doesn't add a single extra penny to sort out poverty challenges . to sort out poverty challenges. so harrogate or the north of england, the lost bits of broken britain which need jobs, which needs investment , which needs needs investment, which needs manufacturing. i mean, if rishi sunakis manufacturing. i mean, if rishi sunak is really going to tell manchester bev and andrew dead, you're not going to have your good and every other good train line and every other italy, germany, france , that's italy, germany, france, that's got connections between its big cities . well, he's welcome to cities. well, he's welcome to try and get votes in manchester. >> dennis you know what's striking when you look at the key players here at the conference, we've got kemi

badenoch. we've got suella braverman . you know, we've got braverman. you know, we've got rishi sunak as prime minister. we have a very dire worse in terms of race, in terms of ethnicity and gender. actually at the top of this government and labour look incredibly old fashioned compared to the conservative mix at that sort of level. is that occurred to you ? level. is that occurred to you? >> no, i welcome that. i've always welcomed that and i write always welcomed that and i write a lot for french and foreign media, and i always say britain is the leading country in europe for having a government that reflects all of the nation which is why i was so sad when suella braverman said the other day that multiculturalism in multicultural britain has been a failure. for heaven's sake , say failure. for heaven's sake, say that to sajid javid. say that to eddie. no, james cleverly say that to kemi badenoch. it's an awful insult. the huge efforts many of us have made across parties in the last 20, 30, 40

years. enoch powell, parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. enoch powell , when parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. enoch powell, when he parties in the last 20, 30, 40 years. enoch powell , when he was years. enoch powell, when he was he was the nigel farage of his day in the 1960s, early 70s. he wanted to repatriate wanted to repatri ate immigration. wanted to repatriate immigration. so kev's parents suella parents. james parents would have been repatriated if that tory enoch powell idea had taken hold. it was defeated all around . and now we can welcome around. and now we can welcome david lammy lisa nandy rushanara ali. i mean, you only reel off the members of the shadow cabinet who are not the same colour as the three of us. i mean, it's a ridiculous colour point . okay point. okay >> all right. dennis, we need to move on. dennis mcshane there. now up next, the tees valley mayor says that sunak needs to give voters an agenda they can believe in before christmas. but is three months too long to turn the tables? this britain's the tables? this is britain's newsroom

>> patrick christys weekdays from three on gb news choose . from three on gb news choose. it's good morning. >> it's 1044. you're with you're with britain's newsroom on gb news down to fryston bev turner we are in manchester. the glories of manchester for the tory conference. bev turner's first think first tory conference. i think it's my home it's about my 27th in my home town . town. >> it's so nice to be here. i left the hotel this morning to walk round to conference walk round to the conference centre umbrella and centre without an umbrella and you would know better you think i would know better given grew in given that i grew up in manchester, arrived completely. >> giving away too manchester, arrived completely. >> there giving away too manchester, arrived completely. >> there wasgiving away too manchester, arrived completely. >> there was aving away too manchester, arrived completely. >> there was a bit| away too manchester, arrived completely. >> there was a bit ofnay too manchester, arrived completely. >> there was a bit of a y too manchester, arrived completely. >> there was a bit of a drama much. there was a bit of a drama about the hair. >> i no, there wasn't. i got out my hairdryer, which brought >> i no, there wasn't. i got out my tmeiryer, which brought >> i no, there wasn't. i got out

mytmeiryer,sorted brought >> i no, there wasn't. i got out my tmeiryer, sorted myself ht >> i no, there wasn't. i got out my tmeiryer, sorted myself out. with me and sorted myself out. >> rowley's giggling >> charlie rowley's giggling here because had a drama with here because he had a drama with his too. his hair, too. >> yes. >> yes. >> adviser to michael and >> former adviser to michael and nigel nelson, who never has a drama with his hair because you don't have enough as well , did you? >> yeah, i've got a five minute window to get here without going. well . he's been going. very well. he's been doing your hair and you forgot to you. to bring it with you. >> here early enough to >> i was here early enough to see prime minister doing the see the prime minister doing the media do many media round. he didn't do many by he only did three. by the way. he only did three. but grilled but he obviously was grilled about charlie. you did about hs2 to charlie. you did you span for michael gove when he was levelling up secretary. how have they made such a mess of the way this has been presented? if they're going to get rid of hs2, why did they allow to be rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeksto be rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all)e rumbling on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all)e eraying on for get rid of hs2, why did they alloweeks all)e eraying ctheyr two weeks all the way into the tory conference manchester? tory conference in manchester? in flippin railway station? >> well, i imagine that the announcement itself was either going to be, you know, held until wednesday. >> so trying to be kept under lock key announce here ever lock and key announce here ever were perhaps not. were they? well, i perhaps not. i mean it could have been or it could have been much later in an autumn statement. it could have

been after the conference. but the been leaked. the reality is it's been leaked. it's out there. it's caused huge speculation it's out there. it's caused huge speculor on it's out there. it's caused huge speculor not. and i think what ahead or not. and i think what really needs to happen is clarity. i think we'll get that already . it quite possibly. but already. it quite possibly. but i think what i'm asking you, what would you have been advising? >> wouldn't you have said, prime minster, you have to get this done you can't have it done now. you can't have it hanging on for two weeks. i i think so. >> i think, look, you know, >> and i think, look, you know, i think you just say we're i think if you just say we're pausing project because pausing the project because actually the focus is on northern west. northern rail, east to west. that's people manchester that's what people in manchester want because it's not fair on the taxpayer, you know, waking up headline up day after day to headline after about this after headline about this ballooning cost of a project that's right that's been mismanaged right from do think from the start. but i do think that, you know, what might have happened a decision has happened is that a decision has been made, not all the been made, but not all the parties to bring parties have been to told bring andy sure that andy street to make sure that he's or there he's comfortable or there might be the mayor be in birmingham, the mayor of birmingham. are birmingham. so i think there are clearly people haven't been told and to of and they need to be sort of squared before squared off, as it were, before you a full you then get a full announcement, this being leaked then yesterday, somebody then yesterday, will somebody be furiously rishi sunak furiously rewriting rishi sunak speech to factor

speech for tomorrow to factor this in and spin it in a positive way? >> well, it's i think it's not really change from where we were. >> i mean, as a piece of party management, this has been an absolute disaster. it has. that you don't come to manchester and then say, well, i can't tell you about high speed rail about this high speed rail rail train actually going to train that's actually going to take you backwards and fonnards. then the mayor of greater then when the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, was actually building actually in this building precisely yesterday, actually in this building preciselthe yesterday, actually in this building preciselthe bootsterday, actually in this building preciselthe boot in,rday, actually in this building preciselthe boot in,rdajwould it putting the boot in, so would it sounds on is that sounds like is going on is that the prime minister intended to end his speech on wednesday with a big flourish which was either to say hs2 is going ahead or hs2 is not going ahead and we're going to build we're going to use the money to build an awful lot more rail in the north. that's a possible city. the trouble is that we've got to a stage now where he can't keep saying, well, no decision has been made because we know it must have been for him to be able to announce it tomorrow. yeah >> and of course, other politicians been talking >> and of course, other poli'morning, been talking >> and of course, other poli'morning, chalk,rlking this morning, alex chalk, the justice secretary, was the on justice secretary, was on the on our well. this

our channel as well. this morning. are a morning. those guys are in a kind impossible position kind of impossible position because being pressed because they are being pressed on.has because they are being pressed on. has the decision been made and all talking about and they're all talking about something which is making the conservative party look shambolic rather than clearly put the messaging out there? >> well, there have been a number of policies that have been party been announced during this party conference, but you're right, they haven't necessarily got the headunes headlines that they probably deserve the deserve because of the speculation over hs2. so speculation over over hs2. so we've wait and see what we've got to wait and see what the final package is. it might be that hs2, the leg be the case that hs2, the leg from birmingham to manchester, is scrapped is just paused, not scrapped entirely and entirely because, you know, and you of the people that you get rid of the people that have project far. >> terrible cop out. and also from a business point view, from a business point of view, what businesses need is certainty and what you need if you live house that you live in a house on that route, certainty . don't route, you need certainty. don't tell might have to my tell me i might have to sell my house. you might bulldoze my house. you might bulldoze my house in years time. i need house in five years time. i need to you're going to know now whether you're going to know now whether you're going to really over is to do that. it's really over is neither one thing the other. neither one thing nor the other. go ahead. >> think we're now >> i think that we're we're now in situation where it's yes in a situation where it's a yes or yeah, ideally yes or or no. yeah, ideally that yes or no have actually no should have actually happened. yeah >> earlier i was in a >> but while earlier i was in a restaurant last night and there

were a few cabinet ministers there, i won't who there, i won't say who they were, of were, but i talked to some of their advisers said, well, their advisers and said, well, guys, too, brilliantly guys, girls too, brilliantly handled they literally handled hs2. and they literally held heads hands. held their heads in their hands. they in total despair they were in total despair because know this is. what because they know this is. what could have been quite a good tory conference she was tory conference because she was doing well in up doing quite well in the run up to it, quite positive to it, some quite positive announcements is if you announcements and this is if you turn on the bbc or itv , the only turn on the bbc or itv, the only story in town. yeah >> and look, i mean it's about indecision and dither. well, and look, the theme of the conference the conference is making the difficult the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions, taking the difficult decisions long difficult decisions for the long term the country. term interests of the country. and a very, tough and this is a very, very tough decision. difficult decision. it will be a difficult decision. it will be a difficult decision. project that's decision. it's a project that's been on since 2009. been going on since 2009. it's over it's costly. over budget. it's costly. it's caused disruption to caused huge disruption to people. that people. there hasn't been that certainty. people. there hasn't been that certaisou people. there hasn't been that certaiso it's about making sure that. so it's about making sure that. so it's about making sure that the clarity by the that there is the clarity by the end conference. certainly end of the conference. certainly but also making sure that rishi sunak can explain in a way sunak can explain it in a way that says , look, you know, that says, look, you know, actually talk to actually if you do talk to people and i have people in manchester and i have spoken few, just tory spoken to a few, not just tory delegates are delegates here, they are actually concerned actually very, very concerned about between east to about the rail between east to west the north. the

west in the north. that is the focus even more so the other thing labour line thing is the labour attack line is that rishi sunak is weak. >> yeah. and suddenly he's sort of he's actually falling into that trap by being weak, even though labour won't tell us what they would do. no, no. exactly. yes. i mean labour are keeping their powder on that one. their powder dry on that one. yeah. many things. yeah. as on so many things. just. yes, yes. >> what will they respond >> yeah. what will they respond do what should they do you think? what should they respond? they just respond? what will they just wait what the sort of wait to see what the sort of court public opinion says court of public opinion says first? >> yes. it be all that kind >> yes. it will be all that kind of stuff. >> need to what real >> we need to see what the real figures are. >> we need to see what the real fileeah,'e. >> we need to see what the real fileeah, it'll be that. >> yeah, it'll be that. and they'll say this is chaos. they'll say that this is chaos. it shows what years it just shows what 13 years of tory so boring. tory government. it's so boring. a yeah a kind of idea. yeah >> just been so frustrated. >> i've just been so frustrated. i've noticed up there. can i've just noticed up there. can you see that up there? there's snipers you see that up there? there's sni| i yrs notice the you see that up there? there's sni|iyrs notice the snipers >> i did notice the snipers trained on it. i didn't actually set them for you. andrew no. set them up for you. andrew no. >> when nigel nelson came on. lefty come on this platform. >> duck under there. now yeah. >> duck under there. now yeah. >> sorry, but where we are >> yeah. sorry, but where we are it for me, for not me. >> so you understand we haven't got a picture of this. we'll try

and get one for you later. but where the windows here where are all the windows here are railway station. are in the railway station. we can top of buildings. can see the top of buildings. i think snipers. there think there's snipers. there might might be cameras. might be. they might be cameras. but yeah, i think probably but yeah, i think they probably are snipers. you better behave yourself they're definitely >> yeah, they're definitely trained on, you know. okay. okay okay. saying, know, we okay. just saying, you know, we swap yes swap seats. yes >> what we going to >> right. what are we going to talk now? we have a very talk about now? we have a very little andrew little table here today. andrew and we're the and i, that we're sharing the ben lord horton, as he ben horton, lord horton, as he is very is now very popular, very successful mayor says is now very popular, very sucn tories mayor says is now very popular, very suchories have mayor says is now very popular, very suchories have gotmayor says is now very popular, very suchories have got three says is now very popular, very suchories have got three months the tories have got three months to turn this round. >> yes. know , i don't >> yes. and you know, i don't think a rigid timetable. think that's a rigid timetable. i think, you know, every day, every day matters . every you every day matters. every you know, because you sound like the prime minister oh, thank you very much. i think that's a compliment. totally sure. whether that's. >> why you say three months? >> why did you say three months? because the next because presumably the next election won't be until this time election won't be until this tim why does we don't know that >> why does we don't know that at moment. at the moment. >> yeah, because you've >> yeah, i think because you've got the new on got to go into the new year on a new footing, don't you? >> yes, that's absolutely right. i this is actually i don't i mean, this is actually i don't think very good think it's been a very good conference i mean, very think it's been a very good confpolicies i mean, very think it's been a very good confpolicies as i mean, very think it's been a very good confpolicies as it's mean, very think it's been a very good confpolicies as it's meanthery few policies as it's made the

tory party even tired than tory party feel even tired than they before . very few new they were before. very few new ideas coming out and a lot of old ideas dusted off with the idea that now rishi sunak was was lay out his his stall by christmas. well he should have laid out his stall here he's meant to be doing it. well, maybe. >> maybe that comes in a barnstorming speech late and dripping with policy ideas. well it does. it maybe it does. >> maybe reason that the >> maybe the reason that the other haven't been other ministers haven't been given is because given any policies is because rishi announce rishi sunak wants to announce them we've got steve them all in one. we've got steve barton saying today very important barton saying today very imfi rtant barton saying today very imfi think about trans women >> i think about trans women will not be in women's wards , in will not be in women's wards, in hospitals, very important. a lot of women watching and listening to good, which to think good, which which i agree to think good, which which i agrwa to think good, which which i agnl mean that still believe >> i mean that i still believe a trans woman is a woman. trans woman is a woman. >> trans woman is a woman. >> oh, no, we're not having that argument now. my twitter feed is just. oh, just. >> but you see, the thing is, i don't think it is that important. i think for the number of people that are that effect, that's your nhs story effect, if that's your nhs story on of the conference, on the day of the conference, that's pathetic. >> do think it >> yeah, but i do think it actually extending women only

spaces really important. it spaces is really important. it is important and a ward in a hospital is one of the most important mixed wards, mixed wards with men and women need to go and they are going but they haven't got rid of them yet. >> no, they still exist, but they the process of going. >> so i think that the idea that you have of women only wards, men wards , that's the way men only wards, that's the way fonnard that's they fonnard and that's what they should that i think that >> i think that i think that would welcomed the public. would be welcomed by the public. but isolation, but i think in isolation, of course, going be course, that's not going to be a policy own that sort of policy on its own that sort of grips the country. it's that grips the country. but it's that policy. pragmatic and policy. it's being pragmatic and doing the right thing by the net zero announcement that we had before mobile by before about mobile phones by hs2, all of these things add up to actually what could be a good package of a prime minister that's taking tough that's taking these tough decisions, trying to connect with we with ordinary voters because we can hs2 as much as can bang on about hs2 as much as we i don't think the entire >> i don't think the entire country as galvanised by this >> i don't think the entire c01some as galvanised by this >> i don't think the entire c01some of|s galvanised by this >> i don't think the entire c01some of therlvanised by this >> i don't think the entire c01some of the journalistsy this as some of the journalists here, but tories we but it's the tories saying we are connected. we know problems about phones schools , climate about phones in schools, climate change, net zero, very important. well i mean, certainly the climate change one

is, is the big one. >> and one would actually assume that sunak will that tomorrow rishi sunak will set flesh on the bones set out the flesh on the bones that he gave us when he was putting all the delays in place. yeah, the key question he's got to if you delay all to answer is if you delay all the targets that were there to get to us net zero by 2050. >> yeah . how are you going to do >> yeah. how are you going to do it exactly? >> you won't tell us that, major, because won't prime major, because he won't be prime minister he might not minister in 2050. he might not be minister 2024. be prime minister in 2024. that's i think he doesn't that's why i think he doesn't care anymore. >> whole he's >> the whole thing is he's worked got worked out. look, i've got a very short, period period very short, short period period in office. 2050 a long time in office. 2050 is a long time away . not my problem. away. not my problem. >> yeah, right. charlie nigel, thank you so much for now. in the still staring at the next, i'm still staring at us. i just say what i've us. and can i just say what i've learned about. about party conferences that three conferences that you three know? well, basically involves not well, it basically involves not really drinking too much. >> i've been very good on. >> i've been very good on. >> am i right? >> am i right? >> but what's the idea? >> but what's the idea? >> yeah, that's the idea. >> yeah, that's the idea. >> there you go. i barely touch the . the stuff. >> i've to move on. what are >> i've got to move on. what are you the morning right. you talking the morning right. >> see in the next few >> see you in the next few moments. to to

moments. we're going to throw to the secretary, steve the health secretary, steve barclay. expected barclay. his speech is expected to bring some common sense back into health care. that's what he says. news britain's says. this is gb news britain's news says. this is gb news britain's neihello. says. this is gb news britain's n61 hello. blustery, >> hello. it's a blustery, showery day . welcome to your showery day. welcome to your latest news weather update. latest gb news weather update. i'm burkill . if we start i'm alex burkill. if we start off looking at the bigger picture and there an area of picture and there is an area of low pressure just to the north of and tightly packed of the uk and tightly packed isobars that it is isobars indicate that it is going quite windy. breezy going to be quite windy. breezy for meanwhile, high for many of us. meanwhile, high pressure is building the pressure is building from the south is to going south and that is to going quieten our weather down across southern this through quieten our weather down across sou'restl this through quieten our weather down across sou' rest of this through quieten our weather down across sou' rest of tuesday, through quieten our weather down across sou' rest of tuesday, though,ough the rest of tuesday, though, yes, it's breezy and there are plenty showers around. some plenty of showers around. some sunny between the sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards west of towards the north and west of the showers could be the uk. those showers could be quite there quite heavy at times and there may rumbles of thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed as well. temperatures mixed in as well. temperatures are going down a little are going to be down a little bit recently. bit compared to recently. it's going fresh at going to feel quite fresh at times, especially in those brisk, blustery winds through the end of the day, we'll continue to see some showers, particularly and particularly across northern and western clear skies western parts. some clear skies developing and in developing down the east and in the as well . meanwhile, as the south as well. meanwhile, as we the we are

we go through the night, we are going to see a swathe of wet weather its way in from weather pushing its way in from the parts the west, affecting many parts of rain of scotland. some heavy rain likely temperatures likely here. temperatures aren't going a huge amount for going to drop a huge amount for many cities , though. many towns and cities, though. some rural spots towards the east get the clear east where we get the clear skies little skies could turn a little chilly. wednesday then a bit chilly. so wednesday then a bit of north south split, a fairly of a north south split, a fairly wet parts of wet picture across many parts of scotland. quite cloudy. the rain will be heavy at times and building up with some high totals, particularly for western parts of scotland. meanwhile, a drier picture further south, albeit will be a few albeit there will be a few showers to watch out for, particularly parts of particularly across parts of wales southwest england. wales and southwest england. temperatures for many will be similar .

>> it's 11 am. on tuesday, the 3rd of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner live at the manchester tory turner live at the manchester tonso the rishi sunak >> so off the rails, rishi sunak is to announce whether is expected to announce whether or he will scrap hs2 between or not he will scrap hs2 between birmingham justice secretary, tomorrow. the justice secretary, alex chalk has thrown his support the prime support behind the prime minister right decision. >> sure that decision >> so i'm not sure that decision has been made. that decision hasn't been made. prime hasn't been made. this prime minister right on minister does the right thing on the basis of the evidence, coolly, unemotionally coolly, calmly, unemotionally and a trans women ban. >> health secretary steve barclay, describes barclay, speaking now describes his ban trans women his plan to ban trans women from female victory female horse awards as a victory for common sense war on woke trade secretary kemi badenoch delivered a rousing speech on race, brexit race, gender and brexit yesterday in which she said that britain is the country britain is the best country in the world in to black. the world in which to be black. >> i tell my children that this

is the world >> i tell my children that this is be the world >> i tell my children that this is be black the world >> i tell my children that this is be black because the world >> i tell my children that this is be black because it.he world >> i tell my children that this is be black because it is world to be black because it is a country that sees people not labels cheaper food shop. labels and a cheaper food shop. >> for the first in two >> for the first time in two years, a monthly years, there's been a monthly drop prices. good drop in food prices. good news. will continue? we've will this trend continue? we've talked minister this talked to the food minister this morning . talked to the food minister this mo allg . talked to the food minister this mo all of that and lot more to >> all of that and a lot more to come this morning. first, though, here is the news with . aaron >> good morning to you. it's a minute past 11, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. a police officer in rotherham has been charged with three counts of on boy of indecent assault on a boy under the 14, been pc under the age of 14, been pc gary scott is alleged to have committed between gary scott is alleged to have comn andd between gary scott is alleged to have comn and d when between gary scott is alleged to have comn and d when he )etween gary scott is alleged to have comnandd when he)etwnnot 2001 and 2003 when he was not a police officer. the year old police officer. the 50 year old will sheffield will appear before sheffield magistrates court on wednesday. now businesses demanding now businesses are demanding immediate now businesses are demanding imme(continues grow action continues to grow over the future the northern leg the future of the northern leg of there's growing the future of the northern leg of theithe growing the future of the northern leg of theithe government is to the future of the northern leg of the 1eithe government is to the future of the northern leg of the bermingvernment is to the future of the northern leg of the berming to 'nment is to the future of the northern leg of the berming to manchester scrap the berming to manchester leg of soaring costs. scrap the berming to manchester leg the of soaring costs. scrap the berming to manchester leg the prime: soaring costs. scrap the berming to manchester leg the prime minister costs. scrap the berming to manchester leg the prime minister insists but the prime minister insists a decision yet to made. decision is yet to be made. he is to make an is expected, though, to make an announcement about the future of the conservative announcement about the future of the conference conservative announcement about the future of the conference tomorrow. tive party conference tomorrow. meanwhile, the government is set to from female to ban trans women from female hospital wards were hospital wards who were expecting the health secretary, steve the steve barclay, to say that the plan will help restore common

sense to nhs. due on sense to the nhs. he's due on stage the tory conference stage at the tory conference shortly and will announce proposals to push back wokery in the health service. he's told the health service. he's told the telegraph the move will protect women's rights under the changes . trans patients would changes. trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation . junior doctors accommodation. junior doctors are expected to hold a rally outside the conference centre in manchester shortly. they've started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in a row over pay radiographers have also walked out for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. today the british medical association wants the government to return to the negotiating table . they've negotiating table. they've warned if a credible deal isn't offered, new dates will offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december . the government, though, says this year's pay rise was final . the government, though, says this fairr's pay rise was final . the government, though, says this fair settlement was final . the government, though, says this fair settlement .'as final . the government, though, says this fair settlement . motorists and fair settlement. motorists who carry out sexually motivated, motivated attacks will automatically face a whole life sentence under new powers as the legal expectation on judges will apply

retrospectively to those who have already been charged with the crime but are yet to be sentenced. the justice secretary , alex chalk, says for the most dangerous and depraved killers , dangerous and depraved killers, life should really mean life , life should really mean life, where that is the option that judges should be thinking about as an initial proposition . as an initial proposition. >> an it now becomes the default . so it's what should happen unless , of course, the judge unless, of course, the judge decides there are exceptional circumstances. that circumstances. and we think that puts in the right place, puts the law in the right place, that meets the instincts of the british people as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjusticele as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and as say, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and provides, iy, that meets the instincts of the britisjustice and provides, you does justice and provides, you know comfort for know, a crumb of comfort for families after the most appalling crimes that they feel justice is truly being served . justice is truly being served. >> the justice secretary is also expected to announce plans to introduce jade's law to parliament, named afterjade ward, who was murdered by russell marsh in 2021. the bill will strip parental rights from those who kill their partner , those who kill their partner, despite serving at least 25 years in prison. he still retains rights regarding his children . a 12 year old boy is

children. a 12 year old boy is in critical condition after being struck by lightning in hertfordshire . it happened hertfordshire. it happened dunng hertfordshire. it happened during a football tournament at the seale school in hertford on monday afternoon . the boy, who monday afternoon. the boy, who was from another school , was was from another school, was taken to addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge. a man in his 50s was also struck . lightning also was also struck. lightning also struck a recycling plant in oxfordshire and it caused a huge fire, a big fireball lit up the sky as well. when a gas tank exploded at the food processing plant in cassington yesterday. firefighters tackled a blaze overnight and are still monitoring the site. no injuries have been reported . donald trump have been reported. donald trump has attacked a judge and a prosecutor on the first day of his fraud trial in new york. the former us president is accused of falsifying business records and financial statements to inflate his own fortune by as much as $2.2 billion. the attorney, james letitia, the attorney, james letitia, the attorney general, letitia james, accused him of lying about his property empire and overvaluing assets to get favourable bank

loans. but trump hit back, saying the trial is a sham and ms james is corrupt and the judge should be disbarred along with making fresh claims of election interference . this and election interference. this and we're going to take you live to manchester now. i mentioned that the health secretary steve barclay, is about to give his speech. while he's doing that now, live to the now, let's go live to the conservative party conference now, let's go live to the consyear. ive party conference last year. >> but conference as conservatives are. what matters to me most is not inputs. it is the outcomes for patients . and the outcomes for patients. and we're making significant progress with the help of new technology . we take strokes . we technology. we take strokes. we are using ai technology. we take strokes. we are using al to speed up brain scans, meaning thousands of patients have fully recovered who may not have . and by the end who may not have. and by the end of the year , this technology of the year, this technology will be available in all stroke units in england and we're also upgrading the nhs to offer patients a choice of up to five different health care providers

, including independent providers , following a gp providers, following a gp referral , which the patients referral, which the patients association say can reduce waits by “p association say can reduce waits by up to three months. but i also know that it can sometimes take too long to roll out new innovations nationally, even when they have been proven to work in local pilots . so today, work in local pilots. so today, conference i am announcing the creation of a new £30 million fund to speed up the adoption of tech in the nhs. >> this will enable clinicians to adopt proven technology that can improve patient care, and these could include new tools to detect cancer sooner to help people receive treatment in their own home, or increase productivity to tackle waiting lists. projects will be delivered in this financial yean delivered in this financial year, getting benefits to patients as quickly as possible

i >> we're focussed on getting the very latest technology into the hands of doctors and nurses so they can benefit you when you need it. and that's the mission i share with my fantastic ministerial team with will quince, helen wakely , neil quince, helen wakely, neil o'brien, maria caulfield and lord malcolm, all supported by a brilliant ipsis gareth bacon and duncan baker and our fabulous whips, fay jones and lord evans i >> -- >> the conference. >> the conference. >> i want to be clear . we want >> i want to be clear. we want to give patients more choice and control over their care and we can only do that with long term thinking. take our long term workforce plan. the larger expansion . in expansion. in >> well, that was steve barclay. the health said we're delighted in the studio with us though, here in manchester is the tories london susan london mayoral candidate susan hall. susan, extraordinary .

hall. susan, extraordinary. everybody thought it was a pushover , easy for sadiq khan. pushover, easy for sadiq khan. he's been in two terms, yeah, two points ahead of you in the latest poll. is that down to your huge personality and vision or is it down to his hated expansion of the ultra low emission zone? oh, i think there's lots of reasons for this. >> i mean, obviously, the expansion zone is a disaster because he didn't listen to what anybody wanted. he never listens to what anybody wants . he does to what anybody wants. he does exactly he thinks he'll do. exactly what he thinks he'll do. but i've said all along, i will stop on day one, which i stop it on day one, which i will. people also very, will. but people are also very, very concerned about policing in london. i mean, we've seen some tragic instances just in the last couple of couple of days, really. and, you know, he has got to get a grip. but if not, i will absolutely get a grip. and those that know me know policing is my absolute passion. and i'm very concerned about things that go london and we need to go on in london and we need to put it right. >> it's a brutal bear pit that you've thrown yourself into . and you've thrown yourself into. and we're seeing all sorts of left

wing press in particular going after you. i would argue in a way that they don't necessarily go after male candidates . and i go after male candidates. and i don't mind saying that. why is susan, do you want to do susan, why do you want to do this? why important to this? why is it important to you? because been born you? because i i've been born and bred in london. >> i love london genuinely. and ihave >> i love london genuinely. and i have seen it deteriorate under sadiq khan over the last seven years. and somebody's got to get in there and make a difference with common sense policies and somebody's got to go in there and say what they think. now they'll always be media storms. the minute say what you think. >> i was going to say, what you think sometimes gets you into trouble you got into trouble because you got into trouble. well, trouble. now you're. well, i'll ask about said it ask you about it. you said it here know how here yesterday. i know how frightened of the jewish frightened some of the jewish community because of the community is because of the divisive attitude khan divisive attitude of sadiq khan . mean? well, i'm . what do you mean? well, i'm just going back to policing the way the policing is in london. >> so many jewish people do not feel safe. that's wrong. and i will never apologise for defending the jewish community. i've got so many friends that are literally talking of leaving

the country because they don't feel safe. that is unacceptable in london. jewish people. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> leaving the country? >> leaving the country? >> going israel . i mean, >> yes. going to israel. i mean, it shouldn't be in that state since sadiq khan has taken over these sort of attacks have doubled, literally doubled . i doubled, literally doubled. i think there's been over a thousand or around about 1000 so far this year. >> attacks on jewish men and women. yes that's right. physical attacks or verbal or recorded attacks ? recorded attacks? >> i don't have the list. but that's not good enough. so i will look after all different communities . he is will look after all different communities. he is in will look after all different communities . he is in charge of communities. he is in charge of the police. he should make sure our streets are safer. >> are you getting the support you should have? this is a huge important election next year. if you win, it will be a massive blow to keir starmer. the labour party. here we are blow to keir starmer. the labour pathis here we are blow to keir starmer. the labour pathis conference.here we are blow to keir starmer. the labour pathis conference. we'vee are blow to keir starmer. the labour pathis conference. we've gote at this conference. we've got steve speaking the steve bartley speaking at the main platform. main conference platform. they've a speaking they've not given you a speaking role main platform . why? role on the main platform. why? >> andrew you know what all >> andrew do you know what all the media are asking me ? it the media are asking me? it really genuinely doesn't bother

me. i'm not that i'm not the sort of person that bothers about state yeah, i want to talk to londoners that would give me a platform for the whole of the country. i want to talk to londoners . i never am country. i want to talk to londoners. i never am i more happy than i'm listening to londoners what they say londoners hearing what they say and talking to where and talking to events where there are londoners, which is what but do you what i've been doing. but do you think the conservatives just that going to that where we aren't going to win so we're win the election so we're not putting behind it? putting the resources behind it? >> like, are you able to get funding easily for your campaign? >> i've got some very generous donors that are beginning to come on board, and i'm very, very grateful to them. but i shall make sure i spend their money very, very wisely . but i'm money very, very wisely. but i'm very lucky i will if a donor gives me money, they give it to me just straight. it was no strings attached. nothing. it's so important to me that everything is transparent and it will be. >> that's unusual because there will be people . there have been will be people. there have been over many years in politics who want to get somewhere. they will take the money to help them

because there might be a little reward some point in the reward at some point in the future, especially london reward at some point in the future,withycially london reward at some point in the future,with the ly london reward at some point in the future,with the powerondon reward at some point in the future,with the power you'd have mayor with the power you'd have in our capital city. how easy is it down sorts of offers? >> i wouldn't go near it's >> i wouldn't go near it. it's couldn't be easier. i will not be swayed by that. i'll be swayed londoners think and swayed what londoners think and what londoners want, like sadiq khan should have looked at the ulez thought, no, ulez expansion and thought, no, you know, londoners don't want this . they really don't want this. they really don't want this. they really don't want this . but he this. they really don't want this. but he won't this. they really don't want this . but he won't listen. this. but he won't listen. i will listen to what londoners want. you can never please all the people all of the time. we know that because people have got differing you got differing views. but you have listen. have to listen. >> i was talking to a taxi >> i was i was talking to a taxi driver yesterday. we driver yesterday. and as we know, taxi drivers this know, the taxi drivers in this country of all country are the font of all knowledge. nothing knowledge. there is nothing that they opinion on. they don't have an opinion on. and always get into a and always when i get into a taxi they're complaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworkscomplaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworks,omplaining and always when i get into a taxi roadworks , particularly in about roadworks, particularly in london and they say some days it isn't worth me coming to work because i can't do the mileage to make it worth me taking my car out on the road. what would you do about the state of our roads? okay, there's quite a few

issues here. >> first of all, 20 mile an hour zones on like the zones on places like the finchley utter nonsense is finchley road. utter nonsense is utter that's another thing. >> there's a main road. >> there's a main road. >> sorry. yes for your view. it's it's a main road into it's a it's a main road into london. so 3 or 4 lanes. i mean, ludicrous around schools and around hospitals and little side roads are completely get. yeah but not on main artery roads. so the taxi drivers are complaining about that but also if you look at ltns low traffic neighbourhoods, they're great for people live there, for the people that live there, except couldn't get except because you couldn't get a to take you home or a taxi to take you home or whatever, causing whatever, but it's just causing backlog for the all the rest of the streets. and of course, when you get idling cars, that's not good for pollution either. it's also absolutely gridlocking all our roads. you look at park lane in the middle of london, you've got a bicycle lane being put on one side of it, just literally next to a bike lane in the park . next door is virtue signalling again from sidique khan ? he'd again from sidique khan? he'd have us all out of cars. i'm so pleased with the government's

attitude now to ltns to these radical 20 mile an hour zones. we've got to put some common sense back and that's what londoners want. >> let's go back to what bev was talking about earlier about the attacks on you. so you're limiting you're on limiting your you're less on social now than you used social media now than you used to be. that because you're to be. is that because you're getting so many poisonous attacks on you? >> attacks. >> oh, poisonous attacks. i mean, to be honest, i've got used to that over the years . no, used to that over the years. no, i think the problem is you've got people are forensically looking at everything i do. and assuming very often completely incorrect things . so i'm going incorrect things. so i'm going to be careful. i mean , when to be careful. i mean, when you're not in the public eye as that, you can like things and without any consequences at all. i mean, those of us that are serial tweeters know that you you flick through your phone, you'll look at it and you'll press like light, light, light, light. without real. yeah you know, without. >> are you to going is that an admission that you perhaps did some said some things on some you've said some things on social like things that social media or like things that perhaps you shouldn't of. >> i probably like things that

people missed construed why people have missed construed why i like them . yes, absolutely. i like them. yes, absolutely. and all know that. and of and we all know that. and of course, if you're labour, you'll make the most of that . so i've make the most of that. so i've absolutely the position absolutely given the position i'm in now, will not be doing that. >> it's so difficult, isn't it, because you would. i saw you talking the other night and you accidentally i'm accidentally said when i'm labour are you. i labour mayor. right. are you. i think went to say the word think you went to say the word leave you said leave leader and you said laboun leave leader and you said labour. so you know, that's labour. and so you know, that's human. those things happen . i human. those things happen. i know, but when you, when you come off a stage and you've made a gaffe like that, we do them regularly on this show. we never know what is. always know what time it is. he always says when 1020, says it's 1120. when it's 1020, you these things happen, you know, these things happen, especially you're especially when you're in in a pubuc especially when you're in in a public space and you're talking. so i guess what you're saying is people that too people are taking that too seriously. they're on those. >> they are, yes . >> they are, yes. >> they are, yes. >> to illustrate you as something that you're not. yes. >> they want want to me >> they want they want to put me in special box and say, look, in a special box and say, look, she's this she's that. well, i will fight back because at the end of the day, we should have free speech. people shouldn't

assume they know what i meant because get that because very often they get that wrong. sometimes it suits them politically . it definitely suits politically. it definitely suits them well. i'm not having it. i will carry on as i am and i will speak what i consider to be my feelings and the truth. and well said . said. >> will you do what kim sadiq khanis >> will you do what kim sadiq khan is doing? are you going to fly all around the world at our expense? public expense, lecturing climate lecturing us about climate change? no, you're not going to do that . do that. >> no, i am. i mean, how ridiculous is that? oh, i'm just flying around to flying around the world to tell you fly the you don't fly around the thousand world miles. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> taking all his team >> including taking all his team to argentina. i know about climate cannabis climate change and cannabis factories as well. >> would i be going abroad selling london blooming right? i would. it's the best city in the world. we need more visitors. we need more investment . yes, need more investment. yes, i would be, but i would not be lecturing people on climate change. when been driving change. when i'd been driving a car to the airport i'd been car to the airport or i'd been flying in. of course not. >> so the elections on may the 2nd next year. do you need 2nd next year. what do you need to do, susan, between now and then to push lead to the

then to push that lead to the front, talk to the really good people of london, explain that i am on their side. >> i am for common sense policy , liz. and actually, i want to start talking for majority. start talking for the majority. we talk about smaller we always talk about smaller groups and of course smaller groups and of course smaller groups looked after. groups should be looked after. but as a as a member of the public, years ago, without any connection to this, used to connection to this, i used to think, hang on minute, think, well, hang on a minute, what us? what about the majority of us? who for the who is standing up for the majority party? who is standing up for the ma_can( party? who is standing up for the ma_can iparty? who is standing up for the ma_can i ask(? who is standing up for the ma_can i ask you just one final >> can i ask you just one final question? you question? when you go campaigning, the best campaigning, one of the best campaigners i've ever seen on the is boris johnson, who the road is boris johnson, who was a very successful mayor of london. you take will you london. will you take will you will the road with him? >> he's already said he'll help me. anybody that cares about london and cares about us winning common sense, winning for common sense, looking after a fan of boris? absolutely. yes. i wish he had a sort of a stardust quality. when you walked into a room, everybody knew he was there. it's something he has that anybody who is a politician would love it. and you know, we saw heard it yesterday, nigel

farage, he came in here. >> it was like a rock star. really? yeah. do like him? really? yeah. do you like him? >> i something, you know. no, no , you're not. no. some of the things he said i've agreed with . i mean, i'm a brexiteer. yeah he's said things in the past that i haven't agreed with. but listen, nobody agrees with everybody all of the time. certainly people agree certainly people don't agree with time, but i just with me all the time, but i just hope agree with me hope they agree with me sufficiently to vote for me on may the 2nd. >> brilliant. thank you, susan. >> brilliant. thank you, susan. >> you're going to come and see us i hope. us again soon, i hope. >> we need, what we >> and what we need, what we needin >> and what we need, what we need in political life are more strong opinion. strong matriarch, in my opinion. and to that category and you come on to that category for me. susan. so good luck with and you come on to that category for right? usan. so good luck with and you come on to that category for right? sunakio good luck with and you come on to that category for right? sunak is good luck with and you come on to that category for right? sunak is facing jck with it, right? sunak is facing a backlash tories business backlash from tories business leaders leaders leaders and northern leaders over this morning over reports this morning suggesting the hs2 leg to suggesting that the hs2 leg to manchester will be scrapped with britain's newsroom on gb news.

christys on gb news. >> i'm gb news radio. there you go. >> the young lobby member it's 1123. >> you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew beth mead bev turner at the tory conference. and we've got liam halligan here barracking me from conference. and we've got liam halsidelinesy barracking me from conference. and we've got liam hal sidelines here. rcking me from conference. and we've got liam hal sidelines here. andg me from conference. and we've got liam hal sidelines here. and we're from the sidelines here. and we're also joined former very also joined by the former very briefly what your role in briefly, what was your role in this crisis? >> i was environment secretary there, minister before >> i was environment secretary there, minister minister before >> i was environment secretary there, minister renault er before >> i was environment secretary there, minister renault zoeyfore >> i was environment secretary there, minister renault zoe and trade minister renault zoe and we're going to talk you, we're going to talk to you, first about food prices. first of all, about food prices. >> news. first of all, about food prices. >> worth 5. first of all, about food prices. >> worth saying this isn't >> it's worth saying this isn't a from the labour party a story from the labour party conference here manchester. conference here in manchester. it's story. yeah, now it's a broader story. yeah, now we did you just say the labour

>> did you just say the labour party conference? party here in conference? >> the tory party? >> the tory party? >> i'm glad you >> well done. i'm glad you clarified . clarified that. >> absolutely. next week. >> absolutely. that's next week. >> absolutely. that's next week. >> actually went to bed >> no, i actually went to bed early. right is okay, early. right who is okay, andrew, this is a family show. come on. this a story from come on. this isn't a story from party conference. this is a story about inflation in british retail consortium have come up with these food price inflation numbers . now with these food price inflation numbers. now we with these food price inflation numbers . now we know that numbers. now we know that inflation fell last month from july to august, and expectedly, headune july to august, and expectedly, headline inflation from . 6.8 to headline inflation from. 6.8 to 6.7. that was ons numbers, official numbers. but within that food price inflation, annual food price inflation was up at 13 to 14. huge food price inflation still now the headunes inflation still now the headlines from the british retail consortium this morning tell us that food price inflation has fallen. but let me explain . explain. >> it's the first time in two years. >> yes, but it's fallen month on month . it fell in september, month. it fell in september, right . month. it fell in september, right. compared to month. it fell in september, right . compared to august by right. compared to august by nought point 1. not much. then a move in the right direction, but on an annual basis, september compared to last september, food

prices, according to the british retail consortium , are still retail consortium, are still 9.9% more expensive . so all the 9.9% more expensive. so all the headunes 9.9% more expensive. so all the headlines are food price inflation is down. i'm to here explain to you the reality month on month food price inflation is down, but year on year food price inflation is still almost in double digits, which is too high, which is far too high. now, the british retailers consortium, you know, they would say this, wouldn't they? oh, there's huge competition between supermarkets there supermarkets and i'm sure there is competition between is some competition between supermarkets. say as supermarkets. but i must say as a whole, food retailing a whole, the food retailing sector is still charging too much, given if you look at what's happened to global food pnces what's happened to global food prices on wholesale markets, which down sharply . which are down sharply. >> well, let's bring in randall here, because you were yesterday at liz truss's big speech. you were supporter liz truss. were a supporter of liz truss. you her leadership. you you backed her leadership. you were cabinet. she's were in her cabinet. she's talking about cutting corporation food inflation. corporation tax, food inflation. inflation still far high. inflation is still far too high. 10% annual 9.9. is this why this government has got to cut taxes and soon? >> well, i think cutting taxes not only feeds through to

consumer prices, but actually helps businesses grow in the first place. and, you know, we need to create jobs. we need to create for this create the wealth for this country. only that by country. and we only do that by enabung country. and we only do that by enabling businesses to thrive. and not corporation and it's not just corporation tax or the conservative growth group chair. we're group that i chair. we're calling for the reversal of the ir35 that made it really ir35 rules that made it really hard small businesses , as hard for small businesses, as davis was talking about. >> they say that really small businesses absolutely right. >> accountants fees, it >> admin, accountants fees, it really and the vat really hurts. and the vat registration well, really hurts. and the vat regi know, 1 well, really hurts. and the vat regi know, 1 businesses you know, so many businesses stop at 85 k because they know they'll have to charge 20% extra. if they go a penny over. it's insane. we've left the eu. no, now we don't have to follow their rules and we should seize their rules and we should seize the opportunity of small businesses. the opportunity of small busin we as. the opportunity of small busin we still are. i think we think we still are. i think we still are people here, the still are the people here, the response yesterday, i mean, people queuing door, 200 people queuing out the door, 200 people queuing out the door, 200 people had to be turned away. sadly you know, here sadly you know, people here are still very supportive of these small and small business policies and indeed, for people indeed, cutting taxes for people to . to. >> are they still supportive of her, i think the there her, liz truss i think the there is absolutely a desire excuse me, for the agenda to cut taxes

. it's a very diplomatic answer i >> she her speech went down very well. she was good. >> i was at the meeting because i was chairing the meeting. so i introduced liz truss. i introduced liz truss. i introduced ranil, i introduced jacob rees—mogg , i introduced jacob rees—mogg, i introduced priti patel, and i must say, i've been doing this stuff quite a long time, to going parliamentary political fringe meetings , all, all the party meetings, all, all the party conferences over many years. and what we saw yesterday was a good old fashioned parliament fringe meeting that challenged the party consensus. it was one hour before the chancellor stood up. it was massively well attended, absolutely attended in the charts. >> it drove all the headlines yesterday day and it was my job to be there and chair and compare and be a journalist , compare and be a journalist, which is what i was. >> but i must say i haven't seen liz truss speak as well as she did yesterday ever. there was none of the woodenness i think she's been the same pressure. i

think she's freedom. she's been freed up because she no longer is shouldering the tyranny of the ambition of wanting to lead her country. her party and lead her country. >> looks like beyond >> and she looks like beyond that, responded the love that, she responded to the love in the room. right? she's only human. took human. and she took such a bashing when pm. and bashing when she was pm. and immediately aftennards. and now there was so much support for her that she really stepped into it. and i think she was talking without she? without notes, wasn't she? >> talking notes >> she was talking without notes and something really and something a really interesting politics interesting piece of politics happened, so. happened, if i may say so. randall happened you randall and it happened when you were in your speech. did an aside to me because in my introductory remarks this this is in my introductory is important in my introductory remarks, i said that these four members, these four former cabinet ministers, all of them, and one a former prime minister they were all part of this grouping on the conservative backbenchers, the conservative growth group, which of course randall the leader. randall is the leader. and i said , as hopefully an informed said, as hopefully an informed journalist, there are there are upwards of 50 members. that's quite a lot of the parliamentary party. and randall in an aside said to me actually liam joking

he said i think you'll find we're nearer 60, we're growing. >> so the next time i got on the stage to introduce the next speaken stage to introduce the next speaker, i said, isn't this interesting? >> because that >> because of that parliamentary, that conservative growth , a big chunk of growth group, a big chunk of them said they not them have said they will not vote government vote for any government legislation that puts taxes up, including patel . so including priti patel. so including priti patel. so including patel. so if including priti patel. so if there's liz so there's including liz truss. so if there is a budget statement, an autumn statement or a budget next year and the obr says this puts up the total amount of gdp that's taken by tax, a huge chunk of the parliamentary party by the government's own mps won't vote for it. right. and the number of them is about the same size, 60 as the government's current working majority. if the government can't get its budget bill through, that's a no confidence. >> can you tell us who the new names are who've come fonnard? it's in the interest of openness and transparency. names that and transparency. any names that we know? we would know? >> we reveal our >> no, we don't reveal our names. not like, you know, names. we're not like, you know, one research and one of the research groups and so it's for members

so on. well it's for members themselves to set out whether they support agenda , their they support our agenda, their mps absolutely in mps and ministers. absolutely in fact, there are also additional folks who are even serving ministers who with what ministers who agree with what we're about. know, we're talking about. you know, the are. there's the there you are. there's a break for you right now. you know , i couldn't possibly know, i couldn't possibly call it. know , but more is it. but, you know, but more is enjoying this more but but the officially members or are they no , no, no. they're supporters. no, no, no. they're supporters. they're supporters . but you know they're supporters. but you know dozen no , not quite as many as dozen no, not quite as many as that in the ministerial cadre. no, we don't have a whatsapp group again, to protect people's, you screenshot people's, you know, screenshot people's, you know, screenshot people's names. that's right. that's people's names. that's right. tha people people's names. that's right. thapeople like me would then get >> people like me would then get hold of the whatsapp. >> undoubtedly be a great journalist, phone. >> undoubtedly be a great journeexactly. phone. >> undoubtedly be a great journe exactly. know, le. >> undoubtedly be a great journeexactly. know, the yeah, exactly. you know, the point the is this point the point is this just shows economic shows that the economic growth agenda hasn't gone away. in fact, it's absolutely crucial for this country. and, you know, we've living in this sort we've been living in this sort of in the whole western of in the whole of the western world in this sort of social democratic model for the last 25 years. wanted to break years. no one's wanted to break out and whilst they out of it. and whilst they stopped liz trying to do that and has admitted and whilst liz has admitted herself, she could have done things different way,

things in a different way, i think ideas at the heart of think the ideas at the heart of it need to be explored still. >> just very briefly , those >> just very briefly, those ministers who've come to indicate their support for the commission is that this week or in the last couple over last in the last couple over the last few right . few months right. >> and what you're saying, just how trying to how is it? i'm just trying to relate this relevant to relate how this is relevant to our at home, what our audience at home, what you're liam, this you're saying, liam, is if this group has such momentum that they could genuinely scupper budgetary ambition, stop the government between the before the election. >> if a government cannot get its through or every its budget bill through or every time there's an autumn statement or budget, there's a piece of or a budget, there's a piece of legislation called a finance bill, that has to go bill, right? that then has to go through enact through parliament to enact everything to bring the government that will everything to bring the goverthent that will everything to bring the goverthe governmenthat will everything to bring the goverthe government down, .l because. >> do you want to do that? >> do you want to do that? >> no. they can threaten. >> no. they can threaten. >> can threaten. >> they can threaten. >> they can threaten. >> that's certainly not our intention. on intention. we actually focus on trying the trying to work with the government to do government to push them to do the they scrap the right thing. so they scrap the right thing. so they scrap the allowance, for the lifetime allowance, for example, doctors stay in example, to help doctors stay in pubuc example, to help doctors stay in public yeah, absolutely public service. yeah, absolutely . so we got that win. they're listening inheritance tax, listening on inheritance tax, which terrible death tax

which is a terrible death tax that need to get rid of in that we need to get rid of in this country and costs a fraction of the treasury's revenue. that ranil is, if i revenue. and that ranil is, if i may say so, for the benefit of our and listeners, that our viewers and listeners, that is well spoken but a very is a very well spoken but a very clear that that is what clear threat that that is what is . threatening people. is. threatening people. >> what what i mean is if there are and i'm not saying that there aren't if there are upwards of 60 members of this conservative growth group and the government's working majority is 60, which it is once you take out sinn fein and the parliamentary tellers and the speaker and all the rest of it, then these guys could threaten to stop the budget bill. >> and i have to stop our conversation. dead as well. gentlemen, lovely to see you. thank you so much. really, really interesting denying it. right. have right. andrew is going to have a little walk around the conference floor in the next few minutes. but first of all, here's the . news here's erin with the. news >> it's 1132. here's erin with the. news >> it's1132. i'm erin armstrong >> it's 1132. i'm erin armstrong in the newsroom. businesses are demanding immediate clarity as

confusion continues over the future of the northern leg of hs2 . rishi sunak has refused to hs2. rishi sunak has refused to confirm he'll curtail the planned line to manchester despite widespread expectation it is to be axed. the prime minister says the enormous cost has gone far beyond its original budget and insists the decision has yet to be taken. rishi sunak is expected to make an announcement about hs2 at the conservative party conference tomorrow . well the government tomorrow. well the government plans to ban trans women from female hospital wards . health female hospital wards. health secretary steve barclay told his party's conference in the last half an hour. we need to respect the privacy, dignity and safety of all patients and recognise the importance of different biological needs to protect the rights of women . under the rights of women. under the changes, trans patients would be treated in separate accommodation . junior doctors accommodation. junior doctors will shortly hold a rally outside the conference centre in manchester, where they've started a three day strike in england alongside consultants in

their row over pay. radiographers have also walked out. that's for 24 hours, meaning tens of thousands of patients will be unable to have scans. the british medical association wants the government to return to the negotiating table and they've warned that if a credible deal isn't offered, new strike dates will be set for november and december. the government , though, says this government, though, says this years government, though, says this year's rise was final and year's pay rise was final and fair . murderers who carry out fair. murderers who carry out sexually motivated attacks will automate face a whole life sentence under a new powers. the legal expectation on judges will apply retrospective actively to those who've already been charged with the crime. but are yet to be sentenced. the justice secretary, alex chalk, says that for the most dangerous and depraved killers, life really should mean life . that is it for should mean life. that is it for the moment. more is on our website gbnews.com. i'll be back with more at the top of the next hour.

houn >> direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. here's how the markets look this morning. >> the pound buys you $1.2074, ,1.1515. the price of gold £1,512.50 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is currently trading at 7523 points. >> direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for physical investment 98 . good morning. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> still to come, the health secretary says that trans women will be banned from female hospital wards. has common sense returned health is returned to health care? this is britain's newsroom on

news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . and britain's news channel. and our sister. >> i wonder it would be my mp if i was still living in swindon swindon, south. >> i can intrude on private grief here. robert because last year you speaking from the year you were speaking from the conference you conference platform because you were the justice secretary. >> back in >> well, that's right. back in 19 i would have been the main hall. >> but, you know, things move on. a is a cruel on. politics is a is a cruel trade. and i'm back the trade. and i'm back here on the on the floor and enjoying seeing all exhibits . all the exhibits. >> well, let's have a wander round. how do you think the

conference going? because round. how do you think the confere been going? because round. how do you think the conferebeen goi|hugeecause round. how do you think the confere been goi|huge row se round. how do you think the confere been goi|huge row over there's been this huge row over hs2. explain to me, as hs2. can you explain to me, as a former member of the cabinet, how got how the cabinet have got themselves huge about themselves into a huge row about a link is going to be a rail link which is going to be cancelled the conference cancelled when the conference is in manchester former in manchester in a former railway station? >> think can't >> well, look, i think you can't guard and guard against leaks. and i gather that a few ago, gather that a few weeks ago, a canny photographer took a picture of a minute that then led to the whole story developing . and, you know, the developing. and, you know, the prime minister has got to make some tough decisions. it's not an job, a very lonely job. an easy job, a very lonely job. i needs a bit of time i think he needs a bit of time and to the best and space to make the best informed decision he can because this public money we're this is public money we're talking and he's got talking about. and he's got we've that we we've got to make sure that we spend wisely and what spend it wisely and what about tory comments? spend it wisely and what about tory com isynts? spend it wisely and what about tory com is the? spend it wisely and what about tory com is the what is the point >> what is the what is the point of tory conference? >> well, i mean, look, this is a great for tory family great moment for the tory family to year . to come together every year. this is my 28th conference. andrew yes, you've heard it from me. 1986 was my first tory party conference. margaret thatcher. this rose is the rose of england , which you might remember. it was a great, great speech .

was a great, great speech. >> those were the days when there was real leadership in the tory party, right? margaret thatcher, the greatest leader of thisshe was from church. well, >> she was from church. well, she an extraordinary she was an extraordinary person. and we all remember and you know, we all remember her very fondly indeed as her very, very fondly indeed as somebody as the resolute approach, always approach, as the words. i always associate with but, you associate with her. but, you know , we mustn't nostalgic . know, we mustn't be nostalgic. looking back is a good thing. but wallowing in nostalgia is not what we're about. and in modern modern modern politics, in modern government , complex decisions government, complex decisions have made every day. i have to be made every day. i made thousands of decisions as the secretary of state. no no. but i. i took the best decisions on the best evidence at the time. and i'm confident meant that looking back , my record was that looking back, my record was a good one. i changed sentencing, did a lot of reforms that i wanted to do for years and toughened up the system in a way i think the public would support. but, you know, politics, careers politics, political careers don't to last long, don't seem to last that long, andrew. i in the glare andrew. i mean, in the glare of publicity, seem to sort of publicity, they seem to sort of disappear very quickly , don't disappear very quickly, don't they? and i think that's a that's sad reflection that's a sad reflection of where we . we are. >> you're gb news now. we've

>> you're on gb news now. we've had people priti had people like priti patel saying fabulous it is to saying how fabulous it is to have news such a big part of have gb news such a big part of the political narrative now. but what's view? what's your view? >> i'm willing >> well, you know, i'm a willing participant gb news who's participant on gb news who's always happy to come on your show and some some of the other shows. sign of a shows. i think it's a sign of a vibrant that we have vibrant democracy that we have different news channels gb different news channels like gb news their contributions. news making their contributions. so a full throated supporter so i'm a full throated supporter . look here. oh, yes. . now look over here. oh, yes. now at these lovely things now look at these lovely things you here. you can buy here. >> you to buy me >> i'm not asking you to buy me anything. something anything. there's something called tory boy called here. there's a tory boy . look at this , . look at this. look at this, robert. look at this. tory boy. >> well, i don't know about the boy anymore. i mean, i think i'm a little more mature than that. did you? yeah. it's good, though. >> they're nice. >> they're rather nice. >> they're rather nice. >> good. >> rather good. >> rather good. >> we probably don't want that. >> i hate people. no, i'm not sure about that. think that's sure about that. i think that's probably labour economic policy. this good granada. look at this is a good granada. look at that. this is a good granada. look at that . oh, no, no. this is a good granada. look at that. oh, no, no. this is about this. so we are getting nostalgia because manchester, the home of granada great independent production company , independent production company, produced coronation street and

many other great dramas. andrew and i grew up with this sign from the north granada. elsie tannen from the north granada. elsie tanner, elsie tanner, pat phoenix , a great, a great phoenix, a great, a great character. and of course, who can forget sharples and of can forget ena sharples and of course, the great albert tatlock. now that's that's digging into past. digging deep into the past. >> so this is me with robert. robert, come tell us who are. >> robert buckland witness and former justice secretary , who former justice secretary, who this year would this time last year would have been the platform i >> love you to talk to you. back to you, beverly, the panel to you, beverly, with the panel i >> okay. thank you, andrew. i am back here in our little studio with nigel nelson on and charlie rowley this morning. hello, gentlemen , both putting your gentlemen, both putting your phones away very quickly. it's a fast moving situation here, isn't it? there's loads of stories be allowed stories we wouldn't be allowed this in school, would we? >> about mobile phones? >> know about the mobile phones? yes, exactly . yes, exactly. >> i to say, let's talk >> i have to say, let's talk about that for a minute. i think thatis about that for a minute. i think that is such news that is such a good news story that is such a good news story that gillian keegan has, saying that gillian keegan has, saying that she's going to ban phones in what you make of it? >> long as the kids aren't

>> as long as the kids aren't doing need to keep doing live news and need to keep up it? i think that's up with it? i think that's absolutely yeah. you absolutely right. yeah. when you actually you actually get to school, what you should on is should be doing on is concentrating lessons. concentrating on your lessons. it's quite right that they also don't get access to their phones dunng don't get access to their phones during break times . yes, i think during break times. yes, i think the is and lot of the answer is and a lot of schools anyway when the schools do it anyway when the child gets to school, you hand in your mobile the end of the in your mobile at the end of the day, when you leave, you pick it up again. it's fairly simple . up again. it's fairly simple. yeah. and it means they can concentrate on what they're doing. >> i think charlie. i think >> i think so, charlie. i think the implications as well for the concentration these concentration span of these kids, their kids, the constantly half their mind distracted . we all do mind is distracted. we all do it. we've all it. sitting it. we've all done it. sitting here, i'll just here, we're thinking, i'll just quickly happening here, we're thinking, i'll just quitwitter. happening here, we're thinking, i'll just quitwitter. check. happening here, we're thinking, i'll just quitwitter. check. kidsening on twitter. i'll check. kids need to concentrate in the classroom. >> they absolutely do. and you're right. you're absolutely right. when we're a twitter we're looking at a twitter to get latest news, kids are get the latest news, kids are usually on today instagram or tiktok, where there's lots of videos and content that they get distracted there's distracted by. there's also a lot of bullying that place lot of bullying that takes place online, harms. so taking online, online harms. so taking all of the all of that away out of the classroom allow kids to focus classroom to allow kids to focus on they're to do, on what they're there to do, which study, to to

which is to study, to learn to get best they get the best education they possibly the possibly can without the distractions it's distractions. i think it's a welcome move. distractions. i think it's a wellome move. distractions. i think it's a well do. move. distractions. i think it's a well do. inove. it's i think >> i do. i think it's i think it's a brave thing to say. i think it's commonsensical. and i'm massively gillian i'm massively behind gillian keegan one. so the other keegan on that one. so the other speech we heard earlier this week, is jeremy week, this is jeremy hunt talking about clamping on talking about clamping down on the benefits the work shy and benefits claimants . and when i was claimants. and when i was listening to this, nigel, i was thinking, on. it is thinking, well, hang on. it is already difficult to claim benefits you can't benefits if you can't demonstrate looking demonstrate that you're looking for work. how is it for work. so how is it different? we know yet? different? do we know yet? >> no, because he won't tell us. i mean, a lot of things around here hs2 and on, no one here like hs2 and so on, no one will actually tell any detail will actually tell us any detail about so all he about what's going on. so all he said wants to clamp down said is he wants to clamp down it could be on, it could be making worse against making sanctions worse against people if they don't, turning up for work interviews. the one area where i think he might go for. but we'll have to see when he when he announces his autumn statement is there is a system whereby if you get benefit or earnings of up to about £355 a

month , you then have to go to month, you then have to go to the compulsory job centre interviews that that that is being raised to £494 which captures is an extra 114,000 people. so what it means is even if you're sick , what you have to if you're sick, what you have to do, you're claiming some benefits. you may work part time, you will have to go to compulsory job centre interviews, what they call a work incentive programme to try and get you into a job or a better job. >> popular then. do you think charlie ? charlie? >> well, i think it will be because what's obviously clear in the chancellor and the secretary of state for the department work pensions department of work and pensions have that have clearly identified that there too people there are far too many people that on the benefit that are still on the benefit system aren't into system that aren't going into work that are refusing to work or that are refusing to turn to the job centres to turn up to the job centres to get training to go get the sort of training to go into coupled with the into work. so coupled with the increase minimum wage up increase in the minimum wage up to and that might increase to £11 and that might increase further the further if that's what the living sort of living wage commission sort of come you could have come out with. so you could have an in the minimum wage an increase in the minimum wage and have more people and you should have more people not benefits that are

not relying on benefits that are moving jobs moving into for work and jobs because you know, it's not just about earning wage in a job. about earning a wage in a job. you the skills. you you have the social skills. you know, a it's a purpose know, you have a it's a purpose and value in life. >> have used the word that >> have you used the word that i like to use word shirkers? >> should be supporting >> yes, we should be supporting the not the shirkers. the workers, not the shirkers. and was in the and and that's what was in the and there people are there are people and there are people are sick and there people who are sick and there are who aren't there who are people who aren't there who there are shirkers. >> some who. >> there are some people who. yes don't want to get a job, but rather live on benefits . i don't rather live on benefits. i don't think there's as many as that you'd like to pretend. >> i think the government's saying 100,000. that's quite a lot. >> the 100,000 they're talking aboutis >> the 100,000 they're talking about is something completely different. so these are these different. so so these are these are who who will are people who who will get intensive work training. so and it's just changing the threshold at which they get it. so these people aren't sure because some of them are doing part time jobs, some of them are not won enough to do a full time job. obviously each individual is different and some ashoka's no, but the benefit system we but but the benefit system we all understand and appreciate

that it's there to help people that it's there to help people that are absolutely in need. >> should always be, you >> but it should always be, you know, not a hand, not a a handout, a hand up, not a hand out there you are . there you are. >> good . >> good. >> good. >> exactly right, fellas. >> exactly right, fellas. >> what else are we talking about this morning? we've got andrew's hotfooted it back. you've noticed from his little talk there. >> nice. i bumped into if i was still living in swindon , he'd be still living in swindon, he'd be my mp. my local mp. >> oh, right. >> oh, right. >> well, for now. right. he's the majority of 6500. not great around here. >> i've noticed a meeting with the. businessmen have also the. the businessmen have also also turned up and you can see they're all looking for jobs. >> yeah. look. and of course, you're already hearing of mps, tory standing down where tory mps standing down where they've got majority of eight, nine, 10,000 because they think they may their job. and they may lose their job. and they're thinking, we they're already thinking, we need cv out there need to get my cv out there because want to be because they don't want to be with dozens of other mps looking for former mps are for a job because former mps are not employable , you know, for a job because former mps are not especially loyable , you know, for a job because former mps are not especially l0jthey , you know, and especially if they if they're on jobs market and especially if they if thlthey on jobs market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time jobs market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time after market and especially if they if thlthey 0 time after an rket election. >> are they not easily employable?

em ployable? >> what's employable? >> what's wrong with them? >> what's wrong with them? >> to be, but i don't >> there used to be, but i don't think the is there anymore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving is there anymore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving mp s there anymore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving mp orhere anymore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving mp or ayre anymore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving mp or a formernore >> there used to be, but i don't thihaving mp or a former mp1 of having an mp or a former mp headed paper. of having an mp or a former mp heaifyd paper. of having an mp or a former mp hea if they per. of having an mp or a former mp hea if they can't get a normal >> if they can't get a normal job, why are they doing running the country? >> to get >> it's much harder to get a job. mean, imagine you're an job. i mean, imagine you're an mp who's a huge mistake mp who's made a huge mistake or say, chancellor, say, a former chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, made a huge kwarteng, who made a huge mistake. may need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut. may need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if may need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if he'say need new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if he's standing,ed new kwarteng, who made a huge mislbut if he's standing, he's new job, but if he's standing, he's carrying on, though. well, if he's carrying that won't he's carrying on that he won't need for job time need a new for job the time being. can imagine being. but you can imagine someone like that. yes. now would you, if you were a big finance house, would you want him on your letter headed paper? probably not. having trashed the economy. so i think there are some difficult them some difficult 80s with them getting jobs . getting jobs. >> particularly >> it's particularly hard. i think also if there's a change of government, it's not just standing down as a as an mp or losing seat there's losing your seat if there's a change of government. and i don't there will be, don't believe there will be, i have to say, how loyal of you, i'm so a breaking i'm sure. so there is a breaking news which cheek was your tongue in when you that ? in when you said that? >> you i'm still convinced >> you know, i'm still convinced we're going to get a hung parliament. prepared parliament. i'm almost prepared to bet on that. now >> it's not a bad bet to take.

yeah i agree. i think that the polls or they're already closing , but the idea of a 20 point lead for labour , that isn't lead for labour, that isn't going happen. no, agree going to happen. no, i agree not. and if you look at the local results back in local election results back in may, if that was extrapolated nationally, that would have delivered a hung parliament. yeah, it is possible we'll get one under the present polling. you'd think the lib dems might come back with 2830 mps. we are in the realms of coalition again i >> yeah, but i likes that coalition. but the lib dems have made it absolutely clear they will only serve. they won't be in a formal coalition with laboun in a formal coalition with labour. they'd have explain what a supply and confidence and confidence supply. explain how that works. yeah. >> basically the way it works is you agree to vote with the government party on a range of issues, so they will get their legislation, the finance bill would go through, for instance. but you don't have a formal coalition. the important thing about 2010 david cameron is about 2010 and david cameron is he deal of thought he put a great deal of thought into would work

into how coalition would work and he embedded lib dem ministers in every department and had a deputy prime minister nick clegg, who was elected and two of the cabinet ministers in that cabinet lost their seat. >> vince cable and ed davey. indeed, the voters like indeed, the voters didn't like them they were they were them for it. they were they were elected as liberals and served in a tory cabinet. clegg knew. i mean, i had conversation >> i mean, i had a conversation with this during the with him about this during the 2015 knew he was 2015 election. he knew he was destroying party by going destroying his party by going into coalition. the protest party. >> yeah, the junior the junior partner always gets. yeah >> but however, his point was and i think that i respected that if you get the chance to go into government and do something. and you turn something. yeah. and you turn that opportunity down, what are you in it for? >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> only two things i'd >> the only two things i'd say about the polls is that i was there 2017, but i here in there in 2017, but i was here in 2017. you know, theresa may had a point the polls a 20 point lead in the polls going into the campaign. and if you back to 2010, gordon you go back to 2010, gordon brown eviscerated brown was, you know, eviscerated by this by the media. and this was a grumpy that, you grumpy chancellor that, you know, the the know, splashed the cash. the country but, you country hated him. but, you know, actually didn't know, people actually didn't

feel the confidence feel they had the confidence totally voting for change in totally in voting for change in david i think david cameron. and i think people recognise the people will recognise as the campaign will campaign goes on, people will look rishi and i don't look at rishi sunak and i don't think it's a done deal. agree. think it's a done deal. i agree. >> theresa may was also >> but theresa may was also probably the worst campaigner i've probably the worst campaigner pve even probably the worst campaigner i've ever. a i've ever, ever seen, ever. as a prime was more prime minister. she was more wooden than the forest of dean . wooden than the forest of dean. she was terrible. >> well, that's why boris did so well immediately by comparison, by her own admission, i think she said she wasn't the best communicator. >> but as a campaign, was in >> but as a campaign, she was in her every weekend >> but as a campaign, she was in her knockingyvery weekend >> but as a campaign, she was in her knocking on y weekend >> but as a campaign, she was in her knocking on doors. end >> but as a campaign, she was in herwhat(nocking on doors. end >> but as a campaign, she was in her what (nocki talking oors. end >> but as a campaign, she was in her what (nocki talking aboutnd >> what we're talking about female politicians. i mean, it's occurring me. we had susan female politicians. i mean, it's occulinlg me. we had susan female politicians. i mean, it's occulinlg just we had susan female politicians. i mean, it's occulinlg just ae had susan female politicians. i mean, it's occulinlg just a momentsan female politicians. i mean, it's occulinlg just a moment ago. hall in here just a moment ago. i whether you saw i don't know whether you saw that the conservative candidate for london do you for london mayor. what do you think challenge that she for london mayor. what do you thin ahead challenge that she for london mayor. what do you thin ahead of�*hallenge that she for london mayor. what do you thin ahead of her?nge that she for london mayor. what do you thin ahead of her? because she has ahead of her? because when she into the ring, she put her name into the ring, when the nomination, when she got the nomination, actually an actually there was an assumption. khan assumption. well, sidique khan is going he's going is just going to he's just going to sweep the anyway. to sweep the board anyway. london predominantly labour. london is predominantly labour. it's diverse it's hugely ethnically diverse and for him. and people will vote for him. she's very she's creeping up in a very convincing way. what does she need to do to overtake it? >> well, i think that ulez is an awful lot to do with it.

>> massive. >> massive. >> it's massive. it seems to have been. i mean, given what happenedin have been. i mean, given what happened in uxbridge, which has spooked this spooked every politician, this was after was the by—election held after bofis boris resigned. >> know protest and they >> i know protest and they turned it into a referendum on ulez held seat. yes indeed. >> and i think that's what has spooked politicians , persons spooked all politicians, persons from party to the from the labour party to the tory think that is the tory party. i think that is the key to why rishi sunak started putting back climate change targets. yeah. yeah. good there is a feeling out there that it was a domino effect, wasn't it, that tipped the first thing. it's right, by the way. but that's what's happened. >> think brilliant. >> yeah, i think it's brilliant. he's it. he's doing it. >> i think susan in >> i think for susan in particular, know, she's particular, you know, she's a londoner. she's a londoner. you can tell she's a londoner. you can tell she's a londoner. talks for london, londoner. she talks for london, she stands up for london. you know decent, know where she's decent, she's decent exactly. decent and spun and. exactly. exactly. got exactly. and when she got the nomination, you remember the front page the evening front page of the evening standard. appalling. standard. it was appalling. printed of printed that awful photograph of her sort of her looking a bit sort of awkward. the public awkward. i think the public see through they through that and they and they will be looking her thinking will be looking at her thinking she's london she's standing up for london versus doing she's standing up for london ver sorts doing she's standing up for london ver sorts just doing she's standing up for london ver sorts just to doing she's standing up for london ver sorts just to get doing she's standing up for london ver sorts just to get out doing she's standing up for london ver sorts just to get out ofdoing london. >> she may not thank me for this, but she was saying off

camera that there are lots of people who saying we people around who are saying we need differently. need to style you differently. we do makeup we need to do your makeup differently. need your differently. we need to do your hair differently. and she says, i'm interested. who hair differently. and she says, i'am. interested. who hair differently. and she says, i'am. inteyou 5d. who hair differently. and she says, i'am. inteyou 5d. something i am. don't you see something that i'm not? i can't be bothered having my hair bothered with having my hair done my makeup no done differently or my makeup no differently. done differently or my makeup no differerthose sorts of having those same sorts of pressures, love that. pressures, and i love that. >> her authenticity is key. >> i think there aren't enough women in politics is that women in politics is for that very reason. women very reason. yeah, women are treated politics. very reason. yeah, women are treated things politics. very reason. yeah, women are treated things like politics. very reason. yeah, women are treated things like that. itics. very reason. yeah, women are treated things like that. are. so it is things like that. are you right dress? no you wearing the right dress? no one suggest a man. are you wearing the right dress? no one wearing.|ggest a man. are you wearing. >> do you remember? do you remember the first theresa may got wore pair of got into when she wore a pair of amanda wakeley trousers and she only gave them only worn for .uk? she gave them back. wasn't. they weren't back. she wasn't. they weren't even went on for. even the first went on for. for weeks and weeks, it. weeks and weeks, didn't it. >> is why it's >> yeah. and which is why it's very difficult a in very difficult to be a woman in politics. the fact they politics. that's the fact they get abuse. yeah. get far more abuse. yeah. >> well she's certainly >> yeah. well she's certainly getting a lot of isn't getting a lot of abuse isn't she. saying and i do feel she. she is saying and i do feel that, know that, you know female politicians, whether it's theresa liz theresa may, whether it was liz truss, the policies and truss, whatever the policies and the views of truss, you the views of liz truss, you know, i think know, know, i think she, you know, being might being a woman, i think she might have rougher ride than if

have got a rougher ride than if a male prime minister was without nigel without a doubt, right? nigel nelson rowley, always nelson charlie rowley, always great we'll great to see you. no doubt we'll hit bar a little bit later. hit the bar a little bit later. right next, the desk right up next, is the live desk with longhurst and pip with mark longhurst and pip tomson hi, guys. what have you got programme? well got on today's programme? well i don't know whether we can see them. >> why have they got why are they playing this? >> i don't know . i quite like it >> i don't know. i quite like it though. maybe we should just. >> can you hear this ? >> can you hear this? >> can you hear this? >> that's pip. hello pip, can you hear us? we want to know what you've got on the show today. >> she can. what's happening? >> she can. what's happening? >> hello? it's a blustery , >> hello? it's a blustery, showery day. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. i'm alex burkill. if we start off looking at the bigger picture and there is an area of low pressure just to the north of the uk and tightly packed isobars indicate that it is going to be quite windy. breezy for many of us. meanwhile, high pressure building from pressure is building from the south going to south and that is going to quieten weather across quieten our weather down across southern through southern parts this week through the tuesday, though, the rest of tuesday, though, yes, there yes, it's breezy and there are plenty of showers some plenty of showers around, some sunny between the

sunny spells in between the showers, particularly showers, but particularly towards north and west towards the north and west of the those showers could the uk. those showers could be quite times and there quite heavy at times and there may thunder may be some rumbles of thunder mixed as well. temperatures mixed in as well. temperatures are be down a little are going to be down a little bit compared to recently. it's to going feel quite fresh at times, those times, especially in those brisk, winds . through brisk, blustery winds. through the of the day. we'll the end of the day. we'll continue see some showers, continue to see some showers, particularly northern and particularly across northern and western some skies western parts. some clear skies developing east and in developing down the east and in the well. well, the south as well. well, meanwhile, through meanwhile, as we go through the night, see night, we are going to see a swathe of wet weather pushing its way in from the west, affecting many parts of scotland. likely scotland. some heavy rain likely here. going scotland. some heavy rain likely hedrop going scotland. some heavy rain likely hedrop huge going scotland. some heavy rain likely hedrop huge amount going scotland. some heavy rain likely hedrop huge amount forjoing scotland. some heavy rain likely he drop huge amount for many to drop a huge amount for many towns some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards the some to drop a huge amount for many townsspots towards the east me rural spots towards the east where we get the clear skies could turn a little chilly. so wednesday, then a bit of a north south a fairly wet south split, a fairly wet picture many parts picture across many parts of scotland. cloudy . the rain scotland. quite cloudy. the rain will heavy will be heavy

>> very good afternoon . it's 12 >> very good afternoon. it's 12 noon. you're with the live desk here on gb news. and coming up this tuesday lunchtime, gb news sits down with the prime minister. >> editor, >> our political editor, christopher hope asks rishi sunak question you want sunak the question ones you want answering. the answering. we'll bring you the full here on the