away . away. >> good morning to you. it's 9.30 on wednesday, the 4th of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner live in manchester on final day. you manchester on the final day. you might thank god for that. might say. thank god for that. i a conservative party conference. >> faces a hurricane of >> britain faces a hurricane of mass migration. that's the warning from home secretary suella braverman, who says that her illegal migration act will help to protect our borders. >> those arriving illegally will be detained and removed back to their home country. possible or to a safe third country. she, like rwanda . hs2.

like rwanda. hs2. >> the prime minister is going to effectively say in his speech today, it's not going to happen. that link from london to manchester. the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, says cancelling it will tell the people north of england people in the north of england they're class citizens they're second class citizens when transport they're second class citizens when belief transport they're second class citizens when belief in transport they're second class citizens when belief in some)ort they're second class citizens when belief in some ways that beggars belief in some ways that they are about to do this, to pull that plug here in manchester would show complete contempt for the people of this city, region and of the north of england as a whole. >> more strikes today is the first ever joint strike action by rail workers and the train drivers. >> junior doctors and hospital consultants are all taking industrial action. this morning and changing the status quo . and changing the status quo. >> rishi sunak will pledge in his speech to tackle the broken political system . he's talking political system. he's talking around midday. we'll have all the latest he takes to the stage . can't wait .

. i bet you can't wait. >> we're also going to have a whole troupe of great guests here this morning in manchester. so don't go anywhere. first, though, here is the news with rhiannon . bev. rhiannon. bev. >> thank you. good morning. it's 932. your top stories from the newsroom . after weeks of newsroom. after weeks of speculation, the prime minister is expected to scrap the northern leg of hs2 . in his northern leg of hs2. in his party conference speech today , party conference speech today, rishi sunak will address the conservative party as leader for the first time this lunchtime. gb news has learned that the high speed rail line initially planned to run to manchester will now stop at birmingham. andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester, says the decision will leave people living in the north feeling like second class citizens . defence second class citizens. defence secretary grant shapps says the

money could be spent in better ways if he were to scrap. >> and it's the second leg of hs2 we're talking about and take that money. you can't really judge it without finding out where that money is going to be spent because that could actually fantastic actually have a fantastic levelling up opportunities , levelling up opportunities, billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds. billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds . so what billions of pounds. so what could that be spent on? and perhaps there are things which are than are worthwhile doing more than building a high speed rail line given covid given what's happened since , given the change happened since, given the change in travel patterns for all those attending , the conference may attending, the conference may well struggle to get home again. >> large parts of the train network are at a standstill today as thousands of rail workers walk out the disrupt means much of the country will be without services and those that are running will start later and finish earlier. members of the drivers union aslef are striking as their long running dispute over pay continues. the rail delivery group and the government says there's a fair and reasonable

deal on the table. aslef's general secretary mick whelan says union bosses want the strikes to continue and researchers say a new robot could revolution size checks for breast cancer for a team at the university of bristol has developed a device with sensors that could detect lumps at greater depths . it's hoped that greater depths. it's hoped that the device could be rolled out to easily accessible locations, so more women can get tested . so more women can get tested. and so you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now, website, gb news.com. now, though, website, gbnews.com. now, though, it's back over to andrew and bev. live in . manchester for and bev. live in. manchester for yeah , i think you're probably yeah, i think you're probably right . right. >> good morning. we are in manchester at the tory party conference where your prime minister will be talking at about midday today. so the home secretary, suella braverman, will warned everybody here yesterday that there is a hurricane of mass migration

undennay. have a listen . undennay. let's have a listen. >> the wind of change that carried my own parents across the globe in the 20th century was a mere gust compared to the hurricane anne that is coming . hurricane anne that is coming. let me tell you, our country has become enmeshed in a dense net of international rules that were designed for another era . and it designed for another era. and it is labour that turbo charged their impact by passing the misnamed human rights act. i am surprised that they didn't call it the criminal rights . act it the criminal rights. act >> it was a very divisive speech that there are those on the left who are outraged by the language that she used and there are a lot of people here who thought it was.

>> i think she spoke for the great silent majority in this country who are appalled by what's going on with our migration. the tories are responsible for a lot of it. they legal migration last year was over 600,000. the tory manifesto said it should be 250,000. there was a time when david cameron and theresa may were the prime minister. it was going to be in the low tens of thousands. so luck to thousands. so good luck to suella she's she suella braverman. she's she knows she's doing that knows what she's doing with that language. it is language. it is emotive, it is powerful, but she's saying what people country is people think. this country is full no room in full up. we've got no room in our schools, no room, no no houses, no room in the nhs for thousands people crossing the thousands of people crossing the channel . channel illegally. >> problem is, >> i think the problem is, though, they made it though, it sort of they made it sound the conservatives sound like the conservatives have passengers this . i have been passengers in this. i agree this trend and they've agree in this trend and they've beenin agree in this trend and they've been in the driving seat that has allowed that to happen. i would have liked to have seen a little bit more. i think, meat on bones of how she would on the bones of how she would change it. she didn't talk about the all. no noticeable the echr at all. no noticeable by absence, not mention by its absence, not to mention that she did talk about students

not being allowed to bring their families over. she she i think what's alienated a lot of people are sort of set people who are pro more immigration and pro much more immigration and pro much more immigration and pro refugees even is the pro more refugees even is the fact that she named certain groups. so she mentioned the albania ins. she mentioned , as albania ins. she mentioned, as i say, the students and different countries. and i think that's what's annoyed people because it sounds divisive. it sounds like pointing finger at the people, not the system . not the system. >> well, the system is completely screwed up. and she's only been home secretary for a yean only been home secretary for a year. but actually, she it's the right language . right language. >> well, it certainly has been greeted with some areas of the media, as you say, as courageous as the words they're using about her. they're saying that she was brave, that she's now finally talking people who talking to those people who want to a true conservative party to see a true conservative party and feel too much mass and feel that, too much mass immigration quickly has immigration too quickly has affected communities . is affected their communities. is prime minister rishi sunak is going to be making his keynote speech midday he's speech at midday today. he's promised to change the status quo and the broken quo and tackle the broken political system. quo and tackle the broken pol he's system. quo and tackle the broken pol he's called|. quo and tackle the broken pol he's called the labour

>> he's called the labour leader, keir starmer. it's leader, sir keir starmer. it's so boring it, they so boring, isn't it, when they just attack opposition ? but just attack the opposition? but anyway, he said he's a continuity voters. continuity choice for voters. that's isn't it? that's snappy, isn't it? >> continue. it's really going to get them going in the dog and duck choice duck voters continuity choice for voters. >> well done rishi. >> well done rishi. >> so what needs to change? gb news presenter and leader of reform uk richard tice joins us now. good morning, richard, and reform uk richard tice joins us nnveryiood morning, richard, and reform uk richard tice joins us nnvery goodnorning, richard, and reform uk richard tice joins us nnvery good morningiichard, and reform uk richard tice joins us nnvery good morning to hard, and reform uk richard tice joins us nnvery good morning to you. and a very good morning to you. >> you're away, you >> well, whilst you're away, you know a coup in the know i'm staging a coup in the studio bev and andrew good morning . morning. >> a huge amount needs to change. >> it's nice see you. >> it's nice to see you. >> it's nice to see you. >> huge amount needs to >> a huge amount needs to change. and what's extraordinary about pre—briefing for the about the pre—briefing for the prime minister's speech is that actually we're not about actually we're not hearing about anything to what he is going anything as to what he is going to change. he seems to forget that party has been that his party has been in charge for years. all the charge for 13 years. all the problems country, whether problems of the country, whether it's the amount of tax we pay, whether it's the fact that none of services work, of the public services work, you've just been touching on mass migration. they're responsible of this. and responsible for all of this. and yet trying blame the yet he's trying to blame the labour party. and the only thing he's announce

he's going to announce is scrapping the one term scrapping the one long term policy they've been hanging their hat on the last 13 or their hat on for the last 13 or 15 years, which i've always been against, the way. but if he against, by the way. but if he genuinely to scrap it genuinely is going to scrap it from birmingham manchester, from birmingham to manchester, he's scrapping the best he's actually scrapping the best bit of a whole bad policy. quite extraordinary . and no extraordinary. and no positivity, no action. and it was interesting in in suella speech yesterday, bev and andrew that she gave no positive actions that she was going to do. all she did was use strong, warm language that the tory faithful want to hear . but where faithful want to hear. but where was the policy? where was the action? and that's why nigel last night quite rightly criticised it all warm words , no criticised it all warm words, no delivery, no action. and the british people will be left disappointed . disappointed. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> nigel farage is popularity here? richard, we just want to mention this a little bit to touch upon it. rishi sunak is saying that he'd be welcomed back in the conservative party . back in the conservative party. that's the only way he can say.

that's the only way he can say. that's the only response. he can say to nigel farage being here. given the reception that he's had here in manchester. it's an interesting dynamic, isn't it? do think he would join the do you think he would join the conservative think that conservative party? i think that he if they were going to he would if they were going to make leader. make him leader. >> think everybody >> look, i think everybody is having making having quite a lot of fun making a lot of mischief. i think nigel is making a bit of mischief. i think actually the prime minister was probably minister was was probably doing that . look, the that in return. look, the reality that nigel is reality is that nigel is challenging them like you. where's the delivery? where's the action? where's the future? how are you going to put right what you're responsible for causing has gone causing that everything has gone so and i think that so badly wrong. and i think that is that's the key message that's going to come away from this conference. the last conference before the election, everybody assumes we're assumes that actually we're almost now into the sort of the 12 month countdown on to the general election and i think what we've got to do is we've got to say these are the things that have gone badly wrong after 13 years of conservative leadership. and this is what needs to be done in to order fix

it, to get the country back on track again . track again. >> if , richard, if track again. >> if, richard, if you track again. >> if , richard, if you were to >> if, richard, if you were to do an assessment of what the conservatives have achieved in those 13 years of government , those 13 years of government, could you list five major achievements ? achievements? >> no, absolutely not. it would be impossible. it would take a long time to think about that. andrew i could think about one that have done, which is we that they have done, which is we have legally left have technically legally left the european union. that is an achievement that that all achievement that that we all played a significant role in, but then used that but they haven't then used that great opportunity, that opportunity is still there. we can still make a huge success of it. but you've got to believe in it. but you've got to believe in it. you've got to actually do it if to a job. if you're going to do a job. andrew do properly or andrew do it properly or frankly, don't bother starting. and that's our big criticism of them reform uk, you've got to them at reform uk, you've got to cut taxes. you've got to cut wasteful daft government spending and useless eu regulations means you've got to get the country moving again. that's what people want and look after british people. that's what suella was talking about yesterday. but knows yesterday. but everyone knows

nothing happen . even the nothing will happen. even in the hall itself, people were complaining about the language that she was using. she was doing what actually voters want . they want politicians who just tell as it is. give us the tell it as it is. give us the unvarnished truth. we don't want waffle. we want action and delivery . delivery. >> okay. and what should we expect? do you think, today from rishi sunak? what can you hope for in this speech ? well, it's for in this speech? well, it's incredibly important that he gets the tone of this right, richard. he's done a good job this week , actually, in terms of this week, actually, in terms of meeting people here. i think everybody that's met him when he's handshaking around he's done the handshaking around the , he's he's making the stands, he's he's making a very, very good impression on people. of people are people. a lot of people are impressed by his warmth and his and actually, in life, he and actually, in real life, he is less robotic than he is much less robotic than he sometimes appears on on the sometimes appears on the on the telly and somehow he has to get that his humanity the that across his humanity in the speech, doesn't he ? speech, doesn't he? >> but his speech could >> he does, but his speech could be kiboshed the be completely kiboshed if the rumours true andy rumours are true that andy street on verge of street is on the verge of resigning, his his conservative mayor of birmingham over the hs2

policy . if that's true, that policy. if that's true, that will be the big story of the day in terms of what he's actually going to offer in the speech. well, the fact that nothing has been put out there except that the sort of the rumours and the complete mishandling of the whole messaging hs2, whole messaging around hs2, actually, i think, yes, he can you know, he can gladhand and impress people walking around. but want action, bev. but people want action, bev. they want to know where the country is going. they want solutions and heard none solutions and we've heard none of that at all. if he wants to really improve this, that's what he's got to what he's got to do. ijust he's got to what he's got to do. i just don't we've i just don't think we've heard anything like that at anything at that like that at the moment. and that's why, frankly , many people so frankly, many people are so disappointed . disappointed. >> okay. thank you, richard. we've got in the studio here in birmingham, in manchester. >> with us, of course, is liam halligan, our business. liam, how many documentaries and programmes you done hs2 ? >> oh, too many hs2 . ? >> oh, too many hs2. i'm a, i'm an hs2 nerd. michael portillo has got nothing on me. >> you have the hs2 anorak, your

honoun >>ido. >> i do. >> i do. >> if they're right to get shot of this, aren't they? >> i'm afraid as an economist, i've been really sceptical of hs2 since the outset, as is indeed the man who bought the hs2 company into law. then transport secretary alistair darling , who transport secretary alistair darling, who in 2009 transport secretary alistair darling , who in 2009 created the darling, who in 2009 created the hs2 company. he said to me last week, yeah, but i didn't think there'd be bleep stupid enough to do it . there you go . it's there'd be bleep stupid enough to do it. there you go . it's an to do it. there you go. it's an amazing little former chancellor that's going in my little little scoop for you. there look amazing. the cost benefit analysis of high speed rail in a small country where distances are short in the uk has never stacked up all the international evidence of high speed rail in spain and in france shows us that what it does, it draws more and more business to the big cities and less and less to the outlying regional centres . as outlying regional centres. as i've always thought, it's been a vanity project. it's massively

overengineered . how has it got overengineered. how has it got this far? because there's a very, very powerful engineering lobby that's been behind it and there have been very, very powerful landowners who've bought up land along the line by the proposed stations, and they're making massive speculative gains plus ministerial inertia. i think the tories have left it far too late. but on balance, given that the cost benefit analysis is never really works, what does that mean? it means we're not getting nearly enough bang for our taxpayer buck in terms of economic benefit. actually economic benefit. i actually think doing the think rishi sunak is doing the right and actually it's not. >> it's not just inertia. they were panicking of some of the tories about if we cancel it, what will this say about levelling up? what will this say about the about our commitment to the north england ? north of england? >> who really >> but people who really understand, understand levelling up even andy burnham, up and even andy burnham, who i know well has appeared in know well and has appeared in several my hs2 documentary as several of my hs2 documentary as andy i mean, he'll speak for himself . obviously he doesn't himself. obviously he doesn't want hs2 birmingham to manchester be cancelled , but manchester to be cancelled, but he you that far he will tell you that the far better return is by linking up

the great northern cities, widening that trans—pennine route. liverpool all the way across the hull, manchester, middlesbrough and newcastle . and middlesbrough and newcastle. and that may be indeed certainly when grant shapps appeared on the radio this morning, he dropped very, very strong hint dropped a very, very strong hint that would that that would be the prioritisation hs3. it prioritisation of hs3. it doesn't high speed as doesn't need to be high speed as you know, back in the 70s trains were going at 125 miles an hour. it's fast enough with the distances small . well, if distances are small. well, if you want high speed rail, it's got to in russia. you need got to be in russia. you need straight lines. and we're not even in france. you need straight you've straight lines. you've got a tunnel mountains. it's tunnel through mountains. it's just worth it. it's just just not worth it. it's just vanity, i think. and i think there'll be other smaller projects as well, other bus and we're going to be talking to penny gains later in the show. >> she was the head of the hs2 stop campaign, so i'd be fascinated to hear what she thinks scarlett thinks about this. scarlett mccgwire us, the mccgwire is also with us, the director jail partners and director of jail partners and political analyst, pollster scarlet , what do political analyst, pollster scarlet, what do you think we can we can draw from this speech today that rishi sunak is going

today that rishi sunak is going to make at mid day. what what what would you expect to see as a pollster after this? what would be a good lead in terms of a what would what would a bounce? what would what would be a good result? i think a good result would i think we result would be and i think we heard grant sort of heard grant shapps sort of rolling for this a bit rolling the pitch for this a bit this morning. >> but a major announcement of different infrastructure, potentially better infrastructure or infrastructure that in these that people in these communities, was meant to communities, hsc was meant to benefit actually like benefit would actually like more. i think if he can show that that's what he's going to do feel like that's the do and i feel like that's the hints that that's what's coming. i think actually that has the potential be a very good potential to be a very good moment sunak and, you potential to be a very good momecould sunak and, you potential to be a very good momecould potentially: and, you potential to be a very good momecould potentially actuallyu know, could potentially actually overshadow of dithering overshadow some of the dithering and other problems and some of the other problems this conference uh, this conference has seen. uh, but will require but i think it will require something that to cut something big like that to cut through and to tell a positive story out it. we've seen a story out of it. we've seen a poll, i think today the labour lead back 19 points. poll, i think today the labour lea we'dk 19 points. poll, i think today the labour lea we'd had 19 points. poll, i think today the labour lea we'd had a points. poll, i think today the labour lea we'd had a poll|ts. poll, i think today the labour lea we'd had a poll at the >> we'd had a poll at the weekend, ten points and a poll before 15 points. is it were those polls just one offs, do you think, showing that? >> don't necessarily >> i don't necessarily know whether offs. i

whether they were one offs. i do think early to tell think it's too early to tell whether were just noise. whether they were just noise. i do think what it does look like is that potentially that summer where weeks where we had weeks and weeks of a labour of 20 a static labour lead of 20 points, maybe that was the bottoming point. maybe bottoming out point. maybe things worse here things won't get worse from here and slowly start to get and it will slowly start to get better. i guess, though, i think it unrealistic to it was probably unrealistic to think two off the back think just off two off the back of the net zero stuff alone and the motorists announcements that they'd suddenly be ten points ahead consistently. they'd suddenly be ten points aheyeah, consistently. they'd suddenly be ten points aheyeah, right. insistently. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> and your overall impression of the conference so far, i mean , if you listen to the bbc, it's doom and gloom for the tories here. actually, i don't feel that here. having been to conferences since 1988, 89, i've been to conferences where the atmosphere is much more gloomy. >> yeah, i think , yeah, gloomy >> yeah, i think, yeah, gloomy is not the word i would use to describe it. i have noticed i haven't seen many mps around and that does seem to be the hotel bills. >> it's expensive here. >> it's expensive here. >> and the train strike. the train strike where you can get a bloomin b&b for £45 a night or something or a week and a train

strike as well. >> yeah. today >> yeah. today >> so i think there's that. and i would say that, yeah, i was expecting it to feel a lot more funereal than it has done, although i think it is the although i do think it is the little bit flat. and actually i was talking to a couple of young activists bar last night activists in the bar last night and was what was your, and i was saying, what was your, you know, what was conference like for you? and they said, well, for suella well, thank goodness for suella speech. that the speech. they said that was the only felt was only thing they felt was actually that was actually something that was optimistic people optimistic or got people enthused. he said he like optimistic or got people entionlyi. he said he like optimistic or got people entionly natural d he like optimistic or got people entionly natural standing like the only natural standing ovation, one of packed ovation, one of the only packed out rooms apart from liz truss, of so think, you know, of course. so i think, you know, a conference. i think a fine conference. i think everyone's expectations were so low that means even low that that means that even a fine conference, you know interesting mentioned people. >> i've noticed lot of young >> i've noticed a lot of young people here, a lot of young people here, a lot of young people around the gb people around the around the gb news more than news stand far more than previously i've seen at tory conferences. i think there's a real movement this country real movement in this country now people who realise now of young people who realise they they realise they read stuff and they realise that generation and our that our generation and our parents respect parents generation with respect has pushing onto them . has pushing debts onto them. they they they can't buy houses, they haven't workplace pensions. they can't buy houses, they haventhink workplace pensions. they can't buy houses, they

haventhink there'sace pensions. they can't buy houses, they haventhink there's somethingls. and i think there's something really interesting going on there and they engage with politics in a different way. >> they do. they do. >> they do. they do. >> they're not reading it in my newspaper, the daily mail. your old the feat, they're old paper, the feat, they're doing facebook and on on doing it on facebook and on on all these websites. >> thing i'd say is >> the other thing i'd say is i think that liz rally , i think that liz truss rally, i think that liz truss rally, i think that liz truss rally, i think that really was a bit of a watershed because of course we're hs2 today. we're talking about hs2 today. and think downing street wants and i think downing street wants us to do that. and i think scarlett's right. if there is another big announcement, say, on what call a trans on what we call hs3, a trans pennine route, that of course people will say, but why should we you you'd we believe you? you said you'd deliver to deliver manchester to birmingham. you'd birmingham. you said you'd deliver manchester birmingham to leeds as well. and they're now not happening . but i that not happening. but i think that hs2 rail that we're having now, the timing though, we're originally talking about hs2 because it was originally leaked to pressure the government. but i think the government is turning its advantage turning it to its advantage because today we're not because we're today we're not going be talking about tax. going to be talking about tax. we're be talking we're not going to be talking about truss anymore. even about liz truss anymore. even even that that was even though that that rally was astonishing. i mean, the

headune astonishing. i mean, the headline in telegraph was headline in the telegraph was hundreds queue for truss, which is complete unexpected. yeah. >> except that of course she was voted for by the membership. that's right. i kind of forget that she's popular and i chaired that she's popular and i chaired that meeting, as know, and that meeting, as you know, and when that point in the when i made that point in the introductory remarks, the room went ballistic. >> mean, everyone just went >> i mean, everyone just went where are very where tory members are very cross are very cfoss. >> cross. >> things they get is to choose their mp, their candidate. that's right. to their that's right. to choose their leader their last two leader and they their last two leaders, they chose were deposed indeed by by mps slash even they would say by civil servants in some senses. >> if i could be a fly on the wall anywhere today, i would really want to be in keir starmer's office watching this sunak speech this afternoon because they haven't actually issued a statement yet , have issued a statement yet, have they, about hs2 ? they, about hs2? >> i know andy burnham has come out as labour mayor and obviously expressed his dismay , obviously expressed his dismay, lust disappointment at this lust and disappointment at this decision, should decision, but how should they handle this ? what do you think, handle this? what do you think, scarlett? how does how does labour this? because it

labour handle this? because it is popular. there's been a is quite popular. there's been a huge saying don't want huge voice saying we don't want hs2. it's a waste of money. yeah, yeah . yeah, yeah. >> and i and i do think even though that hs2 was originally a labour idea, of course they are not. you know, it's quite hard to hold them responsible for the 13 years it's been 13 years that it's been delivered. very badly all 13 years that it's been deliwaste very badly all 13 years that it's been deliwaste that's)adly all 13 years that it's been deliwaste that's been all 13 years that it's been deliwaste that's been going l 13 years that it's been deliwaste that's been going on the waste that's been going on in meantime. actually in the meantime. so actually i do keir has a little bit do think keir has a little bit of a not so much a free pass, but an easier pass than this on rishi sunak to support not doing it doing something else it and doing something else instead, whether he want instead, whether he would want to be in a in to be seen to be in a in agreement with rishi that, agreement with rishi on that, i don't know. but i think it is easier for to then say it's easier for him to then say it's the thing do. the right thing to do. >> what he doesn't want to do is get on the wrong side of andy burnham burnham is burnham because andy burnham is a figure, a very popular figure, particularly in the particularly up here in the north king of north in manchester, king of the north, he's known, and andy north, as he's known, and andy burnham hesitate to stick burnham won't hesitate to stick the in starmer. no, the boot in on keir starmer. no, absolutely not. >> and you know, and i say >> and i you know, and i say that he has an easier path, but keir starmer is who often keir starmer is a man who often makes easy things look quite

difficult. good difficult. so that's a very good way, generously put. way, generously, generously put. >> is a very >> andy burnham is a very strategic, guy, and that's strategic, acute guy, and that's why he's been laying in the papers. last couple of days. papers. the last couple of days. this idea trying to this idea that he's trying to broker prime broker a deal with the prime minister, he'll claim the credit for this. he will claim the credit they say we're credit if they do say we're going do hs3 across the going to do hs3 across the pennines scrapping pennines whilst scrapping birmingham to manchester. but still, saved still, don't worry, andy saved the because might be the day because you might be right these trains, right because these hs2 trains, they're carry the they're going to carry on on the same tracks. obviously on the conventional that are conventional tracks that are twisty rather than straight. but then trains will to go then the trains will have to go conventional speeds, but you can still sit same train. it still sit on the same train. it will be faster because will still be faster because london's a birmingham will be faster. cetera. et faster. et cetera. et cetera. et cetera. agree with you. cetera. but i agree with you. and going back those and going back to those documentaries in my trainspotting whenever trainspotting days, whenever we did hs2 . okay. yes. big did polls on hs2. okay. yes. big business likes it. small business likes it. small business don't they? they want commuter trains into and out of towns. they want buses . so towns. they want buses. so they've got a broader range of people that they can choose for their jobs. >> just don't give a hoot about getting to manchester at 20 minutes. >> and in general, there was a

sense that this is not very popular. this is a vanity project. this is about turning some coalfield and blackburn into suburbs of london. yeah, bringing in the commuter belt right into the centre of town. i think this is a stupid sunak you will take it on the chin. the criticism all my mancunian mates, while i've been up here, i've asked them what would are you happy about this? >> and they all say we never wanted it anyway. >> absolutely right. >> absolutely right. >> you know what they say? they say, wi fi better on say, make the wi fi better on the manchester the train from manchester to london. it's already two hours door and electrified door to door and electrified trains work you know trains to work and do you know what? me with a decent what? provide me with a decent cup of coffee on the train. our needs much lower and needs are much lower than and you know and david davis yorkshire mp said this yorkshire mp he said this is a southern solution northern problem. >> yeah southern. >> yeah southern. >> we've got to go, guys. we're going off. we're going going to cut us off. we're going to looking ahead this to be looking ahead to this speech. don't go anywhere. hello good morning. >> we a north south split >> we have a north south split in weather today. in our weather today. here's your weather your latest gb news weather bulletin. i'm burkill. bulletin. i'm alex burkill. we are see some wet are going to see some wet weather already across western

parts of scotland feeding further across further eastwards across many parts through the day. parts as we go through the day. but heaviest rain will but the heaviest rain will always areas always be across western areas where we're likely to see totals building up some localised flooding disruption to flooding and disruption to travel elsewhere across travel here. elsewhere across many parts of the uk, there will be some showers around, perhaps not saw yesterday not as many as we saw yesterday and probably won't quite and they probably won't be quite as intense. there's a lower as intense. and there's a lower chance of seeing some thunder to . winds will be slightly . so the winds will be slightly less strong and with temperatures highs temperatures reaching highs around celsius, temperatures reaching highs arshould celsius, temperatures reaching highs arshould feel celsius, temperatures reaching highs arshould feel relatively ielsius, temperatures reaching highs arshould feel relatively warm , it should feel relatively warm in any sunny breaks . through the in any sunny breaks. through the end of the day, we are going to see any showers dying out. but there will still be some outbreaks of rain around. you can parts can see some rain across parts of northern england into northern ireland some rain northern ireland and some rain pushing of and pushing into parts of wales and the south—west then another the south—west and then another swathe weather feeding swathe of wet weather feeding across scotland as we go through the hours thursday. the early hours of thursday. but because and rain, because of the cloud and rain, it is likely to be a milder night than it has been recently for places, at least as we for many places, at least as we go through thursday. then quite a damp across a cloudy, damp picture across particularly western north western brighter towards western parts brighter towards the even here i am

the east. but even here i am expecting the cloud fill in a expecting the cloud to fill in a little as into the little bit as we go into the afternoon. wet weather then afternoon. more wet weather then pushing its way in from the west and northwest. so it is and the northwest. and so it is going turn increasing wet, going to turn increasing wet, particularly across western parts of scotland we go parts of scotland as we go through thursday. into through thursday. and into friday. many friday. temperatures for many similar to today. >> look back on set. >> look back on set. >> good morning. thank you for joining us here in manchester at the conservative party conference. still to come, we're going ahead to the going to be looking ahead to the prime rishi sunaks prime minister, rishi sunaks keynote going to prime minister, rishi sunaks keyntin going to

it's 10:00 on wednesday, the 4th of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson, bev turner live in manchester for the final day of the conservative party conference. so britain faces a hurricane of mass migration. that's the warning from home secretary suella braverman, who says illegal migration says that her illegal migration act help protect our act will help to protect our borders . borders. >> those arriving illegally will be detained and removed back to their home country. possible all to a safe third country like rwanda . and hs2. rwanda. and hs2. >> finally , will he or won't he? >> finally, will he or won't he? it's going to be announced today that the manchester the manchester ink is going, but is the and andy burnham, the greater manchester mayor says cancelling it will tell the people in the north of england they second class citizens they are second class citizens beggars in some ways that beggars belief in some ways that they are about to do this, to

pull that plug here in manchester, they would show complete content . complete content. >> but for the people of this city, region and of the north of england as a whole , well, more england as a whole, well, more strikes today is the first ever joint strike action by rail workers and the nhs train drivers, junior doctors and hospital consultants are all taking industrial action this morning and changing the status quo. >> rishi sunak will pledge to tackle the broken political system in his keynote speech here at around midday. we'll have all the latest before he goes on the stage . goes on the stage. last year's kwasi was going to have our political editor chris hopein have our political editor chris hope in the studio with us in just a moment to say what does that mean when rishi sunak says he's going to break the status quo? >> first, though, here is your very latest news with rhiannon .

very latest news with rhiannon. >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's coming up to 10:02. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister's expected to announce the northern leg of hs2 will be scrapped. rishi sunak set to defend the move when he addresses the conservative party conference at lunchtime , saying conference at lunchtime, saying the funds will be reinvested into other schemes in the north and midlands. the high speed rail line, which was initially planned to run to manchester, is widely expected to stop at birmingham. defence minister grant shapps says the government still committed to levelling up if he were to scrap . if he were to scrap. >> and it's the second leg of hs2 we're talking about and take that money, you can't really judge it without finding out where that money is going to be spent because that could actually fantastic actually have a fantastic levelling opportunity . levelling up opportunity. billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds. so what could that be spent on? and perhaps there are things which

are worthwhile doing more than building speed rail line building a high speed rail line given covid, given what's happened since, given the change in travel patterns . in travel patterns. >> meanwhile, the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, says the move would break multiple tory manifesto pledges it isn't too late. >> from our point of view, you could invite us in. we are prepared to discuss ways in which this could be done to provide that east west infrastructure first. but do not pull the plug on this city while you are in this city. do not pull the plug on the north of england. do not treat people here as second class citizens as when it comes to transport. because if you do, do those things, people here will never forget . forget. >> well, those attending the conference may well struggle to get home again as large parts of the train network are at a standstill today. thousands of rail workers are on strike. the disruption means much of the country will be without services , and those that are running will start later and finish

earlier. members of the drivers union aslef have walked out in a long running dispute over pay the rail delivery group and the government say there's a fair and reasonable deal on the table. but aslef's general secretary mick whelan says the offer was designed to fail. >> as you've seen this week, these people don't care. they don't want a resolution. they deliberately set up the last deal to fail by putting all our red lines within it, knowing we couldn't accept it. and they do not want to talk to us at all. they want this to go on. >> well, that is, consult agents as well as junior doctors are on their third and final day of unpressed vented action. unpressed vented strike action. many operating on many hospitals are operating on christmas style cover. it's christmas day style cover. it's the longest strike in the dispute for consultants. whilst junior doctors are threatening further walkouts later this yean further walkouts later this year. the bma's demanding a return of negotiations . but the return of negotiations. but the government says this year's 6% pay government says this year's 6% pay rise is fine . elsewhere pay rise is fine. elsewhere officials in italy say foreign

national sales are among the 21 people who died after a bus crashed off a flyover near venice last night. ukraine german, french and croatian tourists are understood to have been on board. they were on their way to a campsite in the district of ms3. 18 people have also been injured after the coach fell 15m onto electricity lines before bursting into flames. the cause of the accident is still unclear . accident is still unclear. venice's mayor has described the scene as apocalyptic . well, scene as apocalyptic. well, today is the deadline for the home office to respond to a legal challenge on the use of the bibby stockholm in dorset to house migrants. the mayor of portland, carolyn parks, claims the home office is in breach of planning control due to the barge being on water. all asylum seekers who initially boarded back in august were evacuated after traces of legionella bacteria were found on the barge .fuel bacteria were found on the barge

. fuel retailer owners have dismissed claims drivers are being overcharged at the pumps following a surge in prices. rac data shows diesel shot up by more than £0.08 a litre in september , the fifth biggest september, the fifth biggest monthly increase since the turn of the century. unled also rose nearly £0.05 per litre to 150 £0.07. the motoring groups blaming the hikes on production cuts by the opec group of oil producing nations and a weakening of the pound against the dollar . and researchers say the dollar. and researchers say a new robot could revolutionise anais checks for breast cancer . anais checks for breast cancer. anais checks for breast cancer. a team at the university of bristol's developed a device with sensors that could detect lumps at greater depths. it's hoped the device could be rolled out to easily accessible locations so more women can get tested . this is gb news across tested. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news.

now it's back to manchester and back to andrew and . bev back to andrew and. bev >> so good morning . the london >> so good morning. the london assembly member andrew boff was booted out of the tory conference yesterday. he's apparently heckling suella braverman as she railed against gender ideology. this is what happened. >> my name is andrew boff, a member of the london assembly . member of the london assembly. you're a tory. i'm a loyal tory. for 50 years. so why were you saying. >> why are you saying that to. >> why are you saying that to. >> why are you saying that to. >> why gb news? why are you saying trash about gender? ideology is making our conservative party look transphobic and homophobic. this is not what the conservative party is about. we have a proud film. if you want standing up, that's my hand. >> so that was andrew boff, member of the london assembly. >> and that man holding the phonein >> and that man holding the phone in his face was our very own chris hope getting the reaction. >> good story. >> good story.

>> just just back up >> good story. >> justjust back up a bit for >> just just back up a bit for us.chns >> just just back up a bit for us. chris what was happening and what did he do to elicit that sort of response? >> quite quietly . but talking >> quite quietly. but talking while suella braverman speaking about issues , gay rights, about trans issues, gay rights, because there's a concern, isn't there ? the speech week in there? the speech last week in washington when suella washington, when suella braverman said braverman went there and said that some people say they got to come being come here because they're being persecuted, but just because there's homosexual there's issues with homosexual or gay people in other countries ? and is that a reason or not to come here? yeah, that clearly was his point. and he was was his point. and then he was thrown out. was his point. and then he was thr(and)ut. was his point. and then he was thr(and he's a man. >> and he's a gay man. >> and he's a gay man. >> he is a gay man. he's a tory party member, 50 years, 50 years. elected a tory years. he's elected a tory politician in one of the most senior chambers in the country, london he's london assemblies and am he's he's the candidate has been he's been the candidate has been mayor he's been mayor of london. he's been he's been be the tory been tried to be the tory candidate. he never got chosen, of but yeah he's of course. but yeah but he's yeah a guy who's well known yeah he's a guy who's well known in it to me it in the tory party it to me it looked heavy handed. it wasn't suella braverman his fault. in fact said aftennards let him fact she said aftennards let him back here back in. no problem here is outrageous it felt a bit outrageous in my it felt a bit like who was that? the elderly protester 2005 during

protester it was in 2005 during a speech at the home a jack straw speech at the home secretary, and a jewish secretary, and he was a jewish man. >> we were both there in the chamber and they threw out a guy, walter, walter, and he's 82, was manhandled out 82, and he was manhandled out of the about yelling the yelling about the yelling about the iraq war. >> it was. and that became a symbol of kind of symbol of the kind of a suppressive nature of the labour government. yeah, it did. i don't will happen don't know if that will happen in case. in this case. >> i think it probably might not because braverman was very quick to say you didn't in my to say you didn't do it in my name. you hadn't heckled name. i wish you hadn't heckled and sticking to it. but and she's sticking to it. but she shouldn't have been she said he shouldn't have been thrown out and she apologised. yeah. >> think fin >> and i think that was that felt right from. felt the right response from. >> did. but incredibly >> yeah, it did. but incredibly heavy handed on the floor though because i heard bit i because i heard the bit that i saw, said and it was saw, he sort of said and it was quite quiet, it was quite even, quite quiet, it was quite even, quite to hear on the on the quite hard to hear on the on the video unseated bev wasn't standing up. he was sat on the end of row wasn't he? and he end of the row wasn't he? and he said there's no such thing as gender ideology. there's no such thing gender. thing, thing as gender. next thing, he's got a policeman right? >> bemused, >> absolutely bemused, looking him road and him down the road to me and i follow him out with my camera. >> being journalist, they get

>> being a journalist, they get the you guys for your the video for you guys for your program. think to me it says program. i think to me it says they were all kind of ready for something to happen. yeah. suella divisive out suella braverman is divisive out there. don't even look there. just don't look even look at for what you think at twitter for what you think about a big speech about that. she had a big speech last you could imagine if last week. you could imagine if you're the risk to you're looking at the risk to this conference, this braverman speech flashpoint. this conference, this braverman spee(were flashpoint. this conference, this braverman spee(were fl something to they were ready for something to happen. so i think let's not be too the security too unfair to the security people. where's it people. they thought, where's it going deal going next? yeah, let's deal with going next? yeah, let's deal witibut i was a bit concerned to >> but i was a bit concerned to see a police officer involved in this tories pay for this because the tories pay for the walked with the police, >> i walked out with the police, as said, officer involved in as i said, officer involved in that. i walked out with the police saw that hand police as he saw that my hand filming filmed it for filming it and i filmed it for our last night on the our viewers last night on the channel i walked out with the cops to leave this cops and i managed to leave this place pass. place without my pass. got stuck. but i did ask police, are you because it's you arresting him? because it's very important. yeah, yeah, yeah. arresting no. yeah. are you arresting him? no. we're from the we're moving away. away from the conference. not conference. so he's not arrested? by arrested? he was removed by police. inappropriate a police. inappropriate use of a police. inappropriate use of a police officer. >> more important thing, he was held gathering held last night at a gathering of was of lgb tories where he was hailed person hailed as this kind of person who spoke truth. he got he got a standing he when

standing ovation when he when he arrived good for standing ovation when he when he arrivt i've good for standing ovation when he when he arrivtl've known good for standing ovation when he when he arrivtl've known andrew od for standing ovation when he when he arrivtl've known andrew od 1years him. i've known andrew for years and funny old and he's a he's a funny old cove, but he's a proper tory and he's entitled chunter. he's entitled to chunter. i wonder a tory wonder if he still is a tory this morning. wonder if he still is a tory thisltiorning. wonder if he still is a tory thislt wouldj. wonder if he still is a tory thislt would be interesting to >> it would be interesting to know he's always chuntering and no one's chucked the house no one's chucked out the house of commons. >> through >> the whole way through people's speeches right. >> getting >> anyway, well done for getting him. done. chris, >> well done. right, chris, we've speech today. we've got this big speech today. this culmination the this is the culmination of the event. noticeably event. it is noticeably quiet here. probably here. now. this is probably a win rmt because lots of win from the rmt because lots of people trains. people took cars and trains. >> today. we've been discussing off getting off air how we're getting home. we've good morning. we've got the good morning. we've got the good morning. we've forgive we've got the news. forgive me, gb minibus . we've got the news. forgive me, gb minibus. that's going to gb news minibus. that's going to be lots lots of be quite fun. lots of lots of lots songs of jolly lots of singing songs of jolly songs on the way back. >> i'm getting old. does it have a loo? sure because i'm a loo? i'm not sure because i'm not sure i can do for hours. i could without could go for hours without a loo. stop, stop . loo. stop, stop. >> important. >> important. >> yes. the driver might need a doctor my age . exactly. doctor my age. exactly. >> this is time spots. this is the kind of chaos that the rmt want, don't they? >> they andrew pierce >> they want andrew pierce holding bladder. exactly. holding his bladder. exactly. of course. such disruption. this cannot coinciding all that. cannot be coinciding all that. they've done this today. >> it's the leader

>> and it's not the leader of the union today the drivers union has said today they have targeted today being they have targeted today being the of course, the day and saturday, of course, and all came and saturday when we all came up . mean, okay, we mind . i mean, okay, we don't mind tiny no cares about tiny violins. no one cares about journalists, they. journalists, nor should they. but a bearing but it will might have a bearing on who's the on who's in, who's in the audience. yes, this is rishi sunak's speech sunak's first big speech as party leader or pm, maybe his last one, because there might be an next may. june. it's an election next may. june. it's an election next may. june. it's a it's a very a big moment. it's been a very quiet conference dominated by what now, which what they're deciding now, which is stopping a rumour. what they're deciding now, which is shere's; a rumour. what they're deciding now, which is shere's a: rumour. what they're deciding now, which is shere's a rumourr. what they're deciding now, which is shere's a rumour i heard >> here's a rumour i heard yesterday, general election on may the 6th, the same day as the london mayoral election . london mayoral election. >> that's more than a rumour. that's. that's a reality because i think they're spinning october november election leave may november election to leave may open as an option because they are worried about next summer. small boats could get worse. the paris olympics policing of withdrawn from the edge of the channel more focus on so have a big summer of lots of small boats crossings. rwanda may happen november work happen in november may not work even worse. no early . even worse. no early. >> if inflation is collapsed and that would be a big thing for

him . yes. him. yes. >> and also going long gives you longer from the liz truss debacle, but also local elections. >> if they're terrible in may, that will look very bad for rishi. so you the local rishi. so you get the local elections the same elections on the same day. >> you say more >> so when you say it's more than how how short can than a rumour, how how short can we be that that's what's going to happen? >> well, we can't be because we're a long way away. but what they're is keeping they're trying to do is keeping opfions they're trying to do is keeping options when options open. it's like when you're next you're planning a holiday next yean you're planning a holiday next year, to go may, year, you want to go in may, but if happen, go in if things happen, i'll go in october. kind of conversation. >> morning. do they have to give everybody election six everybody for an election six weeks weeks? everybody for an election six we(well, weeks? everybody for an election six we(well, you weeks? everybody for an election six we(well, you saw weeks? everybody for an election six we(well, you saw that, s? everybody for an election six we(well, you saw that, didn't >> well, you saw that, didn't you, in the election you, in in the 2017 election when told by theresa may when we were told by theresa may in lobby was told i was in lobby and i was told i was there for this meeting the there for this meeting in the lobby, meant to lobby, no one not meant to mislead. were there was mislead. we were told there was not be not an election, not going to be not an election, don't then theresa not going to be not an election, don"went then theresa not going to be not an election, don"went mountain resa not going to be not an election, don"went mountain inia not going to be not an election, don"went mountain in the may went off a mountain in the brecon down brecon beacons came down and called nearly called an election and nearly lost lost it. lost it and they lost it. >> and yeah, just just so just spell then, chris what? >> give me the five things that would this is would need to happen in this is a i know you have a bit mean. i know how you have prepped well, we can prepped for this. well, we can look at what his five pledges were. stop

look at what his five pledges wen boats, stop look at what his five pledges wen boats, reduce stop look at what his five pledges wen boats, reduce the stop look at what his five pledges wen boats, reduce the nhs? stop look at what his five pledges wen boats, reduce the nhs? help the boats, reduce the nhs? he only down inflation. only get three down inflation. so go on. what's the three? >> he's to going get halving inflation. going to get inflation. he's going to get debt falling and he's going to get growth. he's not going to get growth. he's not going to get cutting boats. what if he what if there is although they're down because they're down 20% because the albania nothing albania deal, but nothing more than there is a >> what if there is a breakthrough the boat waiting breakthrough on the boat waiting list? what if is list? what if there is a breakthrough on the boats? >> wants if, if >> well, he wants that if, if rwanda works, it is a deterrent for the for the viewers. they know that there's a legal challenge. it starts in supreme court. i think next next week. next week. it runs to november. yeah. ruling before christmas. if they if they rule, it's legal to take people, arrive illegally, process them in rwanda . yeah that's great news rwanda. yeah that's great news as a tick. it's not great news if it's not seen to be working. it's a gamble at the moment. yeah, that's right. it's never been tried before world. been tried before in the world. they're the they're trying to break the business model of people smugglers. yeah. if it doesn't work, blow a hole work, it really does blow a hole in policy . yeah. labour work, it really does blow a hole in nothing! . yeah. labour work, it really does blow a hole in nothing to yeah. labour work, it really does blow a hole in nothing to say]. labour work, it really does blow a hole in nothing to say]. l.this.' have nothing to say on this. they talking about better they are talking about better cooperation with eu.

cooperation with the eu. >> sharing . >> that old sharing. >> that old sharing. >> well, it's all they've got right. and indeed might right. and indeed they might allow more people to come over according to the briefing by, by by . we're not sure by keir starmer. we're not sure that will so that that will happen. so i think not yet . i think it's not clear yet. i think it's not clear yet. i think i think it's all options are open to the original question is we don't know. that's we're in journalism. that's why we're in journalism. politics that's why we're in journalism. poland just one more question. >> and just one more question. if they do that or if they do if they do do that or if they do host the general election on the same as the london mayoral same day as the london mayoral election, how does that advantage is that advantage why is that advantageous the advantageous to the conservatives >> well, it means there's more control because the further you get into next year, the get back into next year, the more backed into a corner you are. november, he's are. by october, november, he's got . he can't do a got nowhere to go. he can't do a christmas one. >> why the same day as the >> but why the same day as the mayoral election? way mayoral election? it's a way well, issue . well, a funding issue. >> it saves money. nothing do >> it saves money. nothing to do with around 30 or with elections cost around 30 or 40 million. if you do it on one day, you have the same numbers of polling, counting the of polling, people counting the votes. saving some votes. it's a way of saving some money. you can get all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad you can get all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad or you can get all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad or good you can get all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad or good you nout.|et all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad or good you nout. at all votes. it's a way of saving some morbad or good you nout. at the the bad or good news out. at the same forecasting same time, andrew's forecasting now at the polls now an annihilation at the polls in locals. that's why you

wouldn't june you go wouldn't go for june you go for may. it's to may or may. so it's going to be may or the autumn. >> of course of course if >> but of course if of course if they won may if they won the london which they won may if they won the lond might which which they won may if they won the lond might which vmight they might do, which they might extraordinarily, despite the candidate extraordinarily, despite the candi(then delay and in june could then delay and go in june , be a great launch pad. >> they did do may and >> could they did do may and june, back the june, didn't they, back in the day, did in 2001 day, tony blair did in 2001 after when his leg of mad day, tony blair did in 2001 afte|disease. en his leg of mad cow disease. >> think susan hall people may >> i think susan hall people may say weak candidate, but say she's a weak candidate, but how she's weak? say she's a weak candidate, but hovchristopher she's weak? say she's a weak candidate, but hovchristopher hopez's weak? say she's a weak candidate, but hovchristopher hope we neak? say she's a weak candidate, but hovchristopher hope we had ? say she's a weak candidate, but hovchristopher hope we had her >> christopher hope we had her in here. she's friend of the in here. she's a friend of the show. i like her. i like her. she's no, she's not spinny. show. i like her. i like her. she's not she's not spinny. show. i like her. i like her. she's not polished. spinny. show. i like her. i like her. she'slike polished. spinny. show. i like her. i like her. she'slike her. shed. spinny. >> i like her. >> i like her. >> genuine and authentic. >> i like her. >> she'senuine and authentic. >> i like her. >> she's doing and authentic. >> i like her. >> she's doing well authentic. >> i like her. >> she's doing well despiteic. >> she's doing well despite her performances . yes, she is. performances. yes, she is. >> she looks hasn't >> and she looks like she hasn't got support . get got a lot of support. get better, better. she hasn't better, get better. she hasn't got of support. right. better, get better. she hasn't got to of support. right. better, get better. she hasn't got to come.|pport. right. better, get better. she hasn't got to come. thanks, ight. better, get better. she hasn't got to come. thanks, chris. still to come. thanks, chris. great to see you. now still to come, going to have great to see you. now still to c(little going to have great to see you. now still to c(little walk going to have great to see you. now still to c(little walk around|oing to have great to see you. now still to c(little walk around the; to have a little walk around the conference, maybe to conference, maybe me speak to some members

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . good morning to you. news is. good morning to you. >> it is 1020. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. we are at the conservative party conference. of course, expectation , expectation is growing, excitement building . i do excitement is building. i do not, josh, of course, because the prime minister will speak very shortly with keynote very shortly with his keynote speech, first the speech, his first speech to the tory party conference as prime minister. suggest that it minister. some suggest that it may be his first and last speech to tory conference as prime to the tory conference as prime minister. joining now is the minister. joining me now is the deputy conservative deputy editor of conservative home this home and great friend of this programme, henry hill. henry, what's your overview? so of the conference so far, has it been as bleak as you might think if you read the guardian?

>> no, think it's been really >> no, i think it's been really strange, that i've strange, actually, that i've said to several people. said this to several people. this feel it hasn't felt this doesn't feel it hasn't felt like conference of a party like the conference of a party that about 15 behind that is about 15 points behind in quite agree with that is about 15 points behind in a quite agree with that is about 15 points behind in a year quite agree with that is about 15 points behind in a year outjuite agree with that is about 15 points behind in a year out from agree with that is about 15 points behind in a year out from 1g general you. a year out from a general election . one more election. now, one of the more interesting theories i've had put for why that is, is put to me for why that is, is it's because most of the mps aren't so don't aren't here. yeah. so they don't want pay £200 hotel want to pay £200 for a hotel room you to. room if you had to. >> yeah. you precisely you room if you had to. >> �*1501. you precisely you room if you had to. >> �*150 to you precisely you room if you had to. >> �*150 to 200 precisely you room if you had to. >> �*150 to 200 people ly you room if you had to. >> �*150 to 200 people ly �*were had 150 to 200 people who were worried losing seats worried about losing their seats going killing going around, they'd be killing the here. yeah and it's >> yeah. here. yeah and so it's been been remarkably sort been it has been remarkably sort of chipper some respects. not of chipper in some respects. not not think not delusively. so i think there's expectation not delusively. so i think ther(the expectation not delusively. so i think then the election xpectation not delusively. so i think ther(the election willtation not delusively. so i think ther(the election will be on hard. >> but but also we could compare it, like, to last year. it, if you like, to last year. liz premiership liz truss, her premiership was implode at this point last year. yeah >> well, again, i mean, she had about another ten days to go didn't she? >> after the tory conference. >> after the tory conference. >> it feels so strange that was only know. only a year ago. yeah i know. here trying out how she here trying to work out how she could those could possibly balance those books. could it. could possibly balance those bmean, could it. could possibly balance those bmean, i could it. could possibly balance those bmean, i think could it. could possibly balance those bmean, i think rishi could it. could possibly balance those bmean, i think rishi sunak it. could possibly balance those bmean, i think rishi sunak does i mean, i think rishi sunak does benefit from the benefit a little bit from the fact we're grading on a fact that we're grading on a curve. right? after curve. right? yeah. after the last of conservative last few years of conservative politics, he's his. his government fire

government isn't on fire or falling go like, falling over or go like, excellent, great baseline falling over or go like, excellait, great baseline falling over or go like, excella conference. eat baseline to do a conference. >> relative isn't it? >> it's all relative isn't it? now this speech, conference now this speech, this conference has should have been a big has been should have been a big success, in my view, for the tories, because rishi sunak the government have got its government seem to have got its act of act together lots of announcements have been coming out, zero, announcements have been coming out,they've zero, announcements have been coming out,they've been zero, announcements have been coming out,they've been completely, announcements have been coming out, pardon been completely, announcements have been coming out, pardon the n completely, announcements have been coming out, pardon the pun,npletely, announcements have been coming out,pardon the pun, derailed you pardon the pun, derailed by this stupid row over hs2, which i've never seen the point of hs2 in the first place. but how could they possibly. henry all the way up to the prime minister's speech? still, we still squabbling over still they're squabbling over whether the manchester line link happens and we are in manchester. and this is where we are sitting right now is a former station. former railway station. >> the symbolism >> i mean, the symbolism is extraordinarily potent, isn't it, as it is, manchester central is former railway is a is a former railway station, which makes it all the worse. it's i think rishi's worse. but it's i think rishi's problem that his problem is that his his operation like operation is leaking like a sieve. yeah. had they tell operation is leaking like a sievit's'eah. had they tell operation is leaking like a sievit's a|h. had they tell operation is leaking like a sievit's a civil had they tell operation is leaking like a sievit's a civil servant.hey tell me it's a civil servant. >> that's what they me this week. >> probably. i wouldn't know. week. >> iit'siably. i wouldn't know. week. >> iit's exactly wouldn't know. week. >> iit's exactly the.dn't know. week. >> iit's exactly the same now. week. >> iit's exactly the same asrv. but it's exactly the same as what happened with his net zero announcement. it was supposed to be friday. yeah, be a big speech on friday. yeah, it i think the monday.

it leaked on i think the monday. yeah, happened days yeah, this happened two days early tried to bounce early and they tried to bounce him. over and him. keeps happening over and over interesting over again. now it's interesting that doing some that we've seen rishi doing some sort press stuff in sort of emergency press stuff in the of that leak. andy the wake of that leak. andy street, west street, the mayor of the west midlands, giving that furious press statement. but the government been government so far has just been holding know, holding the line. you know, they're saying not they're saying hs2, it's not gone. trains will gone. the rail, the trains will run manchester, but they'll run to manchester, but they'll run to manchester, but they'll run . yeah, run on the existing. yeah, overcrowded but overcrowded railway lines. but the interesting thing about the fact not pushing fact they're not pushing back suggests what they suggests to me that what they think rishi today think that rishi speech today will move the story on and it'll be interesting to see why that might be. >> this because the >> and this is because the suggestion is that going suggestion is that he's going to say, save say, look, we're going to save 10,000,000,000in the phase 10,000,000,000in the first phase of by not pressing ahead . if we of by not pressing ahead. if we had lord berkeley on yesterday who did the independent review into he hang on, it into hs2, he said, hang on, it would cost 180 billion, not the original 32 billion because. but but but the suggestion is that the 10 billion will be invested in an east west rail link . so in an east west rail link. so across the pennines. >> yeah . so it might be. and >> yeah. so it might be. and thatis >> yeah. so it might be. and that is long overdue. long overdue. one of the one of the best of critics hs2 ,

best points of critics of hs2, i'm of hs2 is one of the i'm a pro of hs2 is one of the best they've is that best points they've had is that there so many rail projects there are so many rail projects in midlands in wales. the in the midlands in wales. the north, electrification in the midlands in wales. the north, stuff electrification in the midlands in wales. the north, stuff electhat.|tion in the midlands in wales. the north, stuff electhat. that's action, stuff like that. that's great. i think the problem is there's reason hs2 ran over there's a reason hs2 ran over budget and it's because everything country runs budget and it's because every budget. country runs budget and it's because every budget. whantry runs budget and it's because every budget. why will runs budget and it's because every budget. why will that; over budget. so why will that money spent better or money be spent any better or will we not here five will we not be here in five years time about the years time talking about the utter the trans pennine? >> just explain to me, henry , >> just explain to me, henry, because why this country, this government , any government government, any government cannot get major infrastructure projects sorted. i remember gordon brown's government invested in a big it system in the nhs. they abandoned it after 12 billion, 12 billion had been lost and sunk into the project. why are we so useless? >> so there are two different types. the it thing is basically we're incredibly bad at contract negotiation, right? right. because to pay the because we refuse to pay the proper for someone with proper salaries for someone with commercial experience. proper salaries for someone with commerget experience. proper salaries for someone with commerget their experience. proper salaries for someone with commerget their lunch )erience. proper salaries for someone with commerget their lunch eaten :e. proper salaries for someone with commerget their lunch eaten by so they get their lunch eaten by private contractors and that's the problem there with the railways . if you at france, railways. if you look at france, germany, most other countries

that they don't that build it, they really don't consult the government consult. the government decides there's going to be a railway and then that railway happens, right? uk we right? whereas when the uk we consult endlessly. and i think particularly with hs2, the politicians need to take share politicians need to take a share of blame right. you of the blame here. right. you said the 30 said you mentioned the 30 billion original said you mentioned the 30 billionfor original said you mentioned the 30 billionforhs2, original said you mentioned the 30 billionfor hs2, 32 original said you mentioned the 30 billionfor hs2, 32 billion. figure for hs2, 32 billion. >> number nonsense. >> that number is nonsense. plucked thin air because plucked out of thin air because hs2 limited , didn't even have hs2 is limited, didn't even have access to the land to survey the land along the route until all the legislation had passed and they give before they had to give a number before that tabled . that bill was tabled. >> so they plucked it out of the that bill was tabled. >> and:hey plucked it out of the that bill was tabled. >> and thenylucked it out of the that bill was tabled. >> and then mpsed it out of the that bill was tabled. >> and then mps addeth of the that bill was tabled. >> and then mps added thousands air and then mps added thousands of additional requirements onto hs2 , limited about what they hs2, limited about what they could and couldn't do. so the idea that a number produced before that law into effect before that law came into effect was just going to be was always just going to be fiction. >> liam halligan our business editor, us the editor, was telling us on the program moment program just a moment ago, henry, darling was henry, that alistair darling was the minister who put the hs2 company into law and he said to liam very recently , well, i liam very recently, well, i never thought they'd ever do it . it was a labour . you know, it was a labour scheme . they lost the election. scheme. they lost the election. the abandoned it. >> i mean they could have, they

could abandoned the could have abandoned it. the thing we do need thing is, we do need, we do need new this we thing is, we do need, we do need new but this we thing is, we do need, we do need new but there's this we thing is, we do need, we do need new but there's , this we thing is, we do need, we do need new but there's , there's we thing is, we do need, we do need new but there's , there's other do. but there's, there's other things. there a fascinating things. there was a fascinating letter from the chairman of hs1 recently . he says he desperately recently. he says he desperately tried meetings with hs2 tried to have meetings with hs2 limited the government never limited and the government never got said, do got them. and he said, do you know didn't tell know what he did? he didn't tell the his the contracting companies his budget, hs2, he said budget, whereas hs2, he said they told everyone how much money the project had, which meant every bit you know, the people, the railway, they all came with projects came back with projects that cost vast because they cost vast more because they wanted of the pie cost vast more because they wa possible. of the pie cost vast more because they wa possible. and of the pie cost vast more because they wa possible. and he of the pie cost vast more because they wa possible. and he said the pie cost vast more because they wa possible. and he said th this> as possible. and he said in this letter, look, i never told anyone budget. we anyone my budget. and we delivered budget and delivered hs1 under budget and six amazing isn't how >> amazing, isn't it? how damaging for the conservatives is the. we know it's going to be cancelled london to manchester we do know that now how damaging for the conservative party is that if at all? >> if at all? i mean, it's not going to really hit many of their sort of core voters the their sort of core voters in the election. they're fighting this next election very defensively, election. they're fighting this next where] very defensively, election. they're fighting this next where they' defensively, election. they're fighting this next where they' defenthe ly, given where they are in the polls don't there's polls. and i don't think there's going many voters who going to be that many voters who are to switch. the problem are going to switch. the problem with like is it joins with things like hs2 is it joins up and it runs

up labour cities and it runs through right. through tory shires, right. that's with that's always the problem with the has deeply the tories, but it has deeply alienated people like andy street, of the street, the mayor of the west midlands and it's angered, i think, younger conservative. there's a group called britain remade who had a who had a fringe the other that was fringe the other day that was packed was packed and they everyone was chanting, things chanting, get things built right. there's right. there's a there's a growing within the party growing sense within the party that cancelling hs2 that actually cancelling hs2 precisely because we're not doing about the things doing anything about the things that make infrastructure fail, which all which means that potentially all of things are going which means that potentially all of spend things are going which means that potentially all of spend the things are going which means that potentially all of spend the money are going which means that potentially all of spend the money one going which means that potentially all of spend the money on instead to spend the money on instead will also be fiascos. there's a sense actually it's just sense that actually it's just turning us a national embarrassment. >> henry hill >> very interesting. henry hill , you're here for prime , you're here for the prime minister's speech. he's minister's speech. i am. he's not great orator , is he? not a great orator, is he? >> but they slowly improve >> no. but they slowly improve over time, generally speaking, as the doesn't fall as long as the set doesn't fall down, think theresa down, i don't think theresa may ever had 1—1 >> well, she only had 1—1 speech. yeah well, that was enough. that was. that's henry hill, deputy editor of conservativehome. bev, conservativehome. now, bev, you're out and about on the conference i suspect it's conference floor. i suspect it's not it yesterday not as busy as it was yesterday . may >> thank you, andrew. it is so much quieter here today. normally on the day of a

conference when the prime minister is going to be speaking, people will hang around because that of course is the event of the the the main event of the week, the week week , i say weekend. week of the week, i say weekend. it feels like weekend. it's it feels like a weekend. so it's much . there are no much quieter. there are no queues today for for the the coffee there are of coffee shops. there are loads of spaces to get things eat. all spaces to get things to eat. all of the stands are still here, but near the footfall but nowhere near the footfall of traffic. course, traffic. this is, of course, because the train strikes. because of the train strikes. lots people get lots of people having to get coaches back . everything's coaches back. everything's booked up get back from booked up to get back from manchester to their hometown. i want to talk to these ladies. this alex and carlotta. now, want to talk to these ladies. thisstandex and carlotta. now, want to talk to these ladies. thisstand isand carlotta. now, want to talk to these ladies. this stand is alzheimer's now, this stand is alzheimer's society . say good morning, alex. society. say good morning, alex. morning. why would you want to be weekend? be here this weekend? just explain week what explain to people this week what this event means for you. and what you want across what do you want to get across to politicians? to the politicians? yeah absolutely. >> brilliant opportunity >> it's a brilliant opportunity for us get direct face time for us to get direct face time with of our stakeholders, with all of our stakeholders, members parliament. we've members of parliament. we've spoken the spoken to 75 mps during the conference, which is fantastic. what want people to take away what we want people to take away is dementia is the uk's is that dementia is the uk's biggest killer. so 900,000 people with dementia in the people live with dementia in the uk right now. that's going to rise to million people by

2040. >> it's vital that the government makes sure it uses the major condition strategy. >> big bit of policy to >> its new big bit of policy to make that we're driving up make sure that we're driving up dementia diagnosis rates, gathering better data on dementia improving the dementia and improving the pathway for people with dementia to event allows you to to so this event allows you to really have face to face contacts with politicians in the way you couldn't really get way that you couldn't really get if they're down in westminster and they're but not only and they're busy but not only that, been testing them , that, you've been testing them, haven't we have indeed. we haven't you? we have indeed. we haven't you? we have indeed. we have indeed. our have indeed. we've got our fantastic dementia maze game just this is actually just here. so this is actually a cognitive stimulation tool that people with dementia can use . people with dementia can use. what's good for the heart is good for the head and vice versa. so it's really important that dementia that people with dementia keep the active. we've been the mind active. we've been getting have a go at this getting mps to have a go at this maze. what what do you here? maze. what what do you do here? >> it is it twisting >> do you is it is it twisting it? >> you to have a little go? >> well, i don't know if i should the i will have should go on the i will have a 9°! should go on the i will have a go, alex. >> but but, but, but let's have a the leaderboard here. a look at the leaderboard here. >> to us, okay, >> so just explain to us, okay, you mic for you you hold my mic for me while you tell this is. go on. tell us what this is. go on. yeah. yeah.

>> so, i say, it's our >> so? so, as i say, it's our dementia game. we've dementia maze game. we've been getting ball getting mps to take this ball all the way to this corner and back you would amazed back again. you would be amazed . maybe amazed at the . well, maybe not amazed at the level liveness that level of competing liveness that mps to have a go at mps have shown to have a go at that moment. yeah, i know, i know. >> so just talk us through the board here. talk through board here. talk us through the board. you on? board. what have you got on? >> absolutely. so we've >> yeah, absolutely. so we've got stuart anderson at got stuart anderson mp right at the goes we've got the top had a few goes we've got people returned people that have been returned visitors to the stand. jane stevenson competitive stevenson very competitive indeed and it's a great way to bnng indeed and it's a great way to bring people in. so you know the best thing we can do is get people feeling competitive. i know that mps have been whatsapping each other about their so yeah , and so, their scores, so yeah, and so, so just so you start with the ball in the, in the maze. yes, indeed. so basically what you need to do, you've got your ball in corner here and then you in the corner here and then you are just navigating your are sort of just navigating your way around. and as i was saying earlier basically earlier, this is basically a metaphor twists and metaphor for the twists and turns can face in turns that people can face in accessing the right care and support dementia . and just support for dementia. and just using that as conversation

using that as our conversation starter people. so going starter for people. so going round and round, as you can see, i've fairly practised, i've been fairly well practised, although by using although i'm cheating by using two so okay, so you have two hands. so okay, so you have to use one hand and then it taps into the cognitive abilities of younl into the cognitive abilities of your, i guess your dexterity and, and then your memory to remember which direction to take the ball. indeed. indeed. so like i was saying, this is a product that is actually available on alzheimer's society's website it's a society's website and it's a great way to keep the mind active. that's really important with dementia . you want to make with dementia. you want to make sure that you're keeping your brain active, keeping social. that's a great way kind of that's a great way to kind of continue well. continue to live well. >> this. i love the >> and i love this. i love the fact that you've got the board going competitive were going and how competitive were they ? they? >> very competitive. i said >> very competitive. as i said earlier, you probably wouldn't be quhe be surprised to hear quite how competitive been . a competitive people have been. a great way to get people to keep coming the stand. so coming back to the stand. so carlotta, for you, how's this week been? >> interesting lots of >> interesting meeting. lots of different people. quiet different people. it's quiet today . today. >> absolutely. it's been interesting. time interesting. it's my first time at party conference, so yeah, very interesting and great to

have some of that face to face conversations with with politicians. yeah >> and you feel that they were listening absolutely. >> had really >> we've had some really fantastic conversations. got lots of mps committing to take action and go away and look at the information we've given them. so. great. >> maybe i'll >> fantastic. well maybe i'll bnng >> fantastic. well maybe i'll bring down for you, bring one of these down for you, andrew, thank andrew, in just a moment. thank you, good see you . you, ladies. good to see you. i'm just going to walk down here. oh i think it's time to go back to andrew. going back to andrew. i'm going to stay have and test stay here and have a go and test myself. you . myself. andrew, back to you. >> all right, bev, thank you. we've of breaking news we've got a bit of breaking news because ministers, because cabinet ministers, according political according to gb news political staff, right now to staff, are meeting right now to sign axing the hs2 sign off on axing the hs2 northern link from london to manchester. so it's going to be cancelled. the £10 billion will be spent on 50 transport projects across the north of england . sorry, i'll probably england. sorry, i'll probably just sport surprise in just sport the big surprise in the prime minister's speech. here's news now here's the news now with rhiannon . it's 1032. rhiannon. it's1032. >> i'm rhiannon jones in the gb

newsroom. and yes, as andrew said there in that breaking news, an urgent meetings being held by cabinet ministers to sign off the axing of the northern leg of the hs2. gb news understand that the route between manchester and birmingham will be cancelled and £10 billion spent on 50 transport projects across the north of england. rishi sunak set to defend the move when he addresses his party's conference at lunchtime. the mayor of manchester, andy burnham, says the decision will leave people in the north as second class citizens defence minister grant shapps says the government is still committed to levelling up if he were to scrap and it's the second leg of hs2 we're talking about and take that money you can't really judge it without finding out where that money is going be because that going to be spent because that could have a fantastic could actually have a fantastic levelling up opportunity . levelling up opportunity. >> billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds. >> billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds . so what billions of pounds. so what could that be spent on? and perhaps there are things which

are than are worthwhile doing more than building a high speed rail line given covid given what's happened since, given the change in patterns . and also in in travel patterns. and also in the last few minutes, turkey has withdrawn its bid to host the ,2,028, meaning a joint bid by the uk the republic of the uk and the republic of ireland stands unopposed. ireland now stands unopposed. >> turkey has agreed to merge its bid with italy for 2032. the bid needs to be officially approved by uefa's executive committee next week , and ten committee next week, and ten stadium names were selected , stadium names were selected, including glasgow's hampden park , the principality stadium in cardiff, dublin's aviva stadium and wembley in london. those attending the conference shapps may well struggle to get home today because of train strikes. that disruption means much of the country is without services . as members of the drivers union aslef have walked out in a

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andits from three on. news and it's 1039. and it's1039. >> you're with britain's news rhiannon gb news with andrew pearson bev turner at the tory conference. the excitement, it's palpable. bev it? because conference. the excitement, it's palpajust bev it? because conference. the excitement, it's palpajust azv it? because conference. the excitement, it's palpajust a barely it? because conference. the excitement, it's palpajust a barely it?hour|use conference. the excitement, it's palpajust a barely it?hour away we're just a barely an hour away now keynote now from rishi sunaks keynote speech. hank be speech. everybody, hank will be hanging on his every word ish and he's going to be introduced by his wife. >> is . i'm really torn about >> he is. i'm really torn about that. >> it's the first time, and >> it's not the first time, and it to a prime it suggests to me a prime minister he's in a bit minister who knows he's in a bit of trouble. he's of political trouble. he's trying to show his human side because brown's wife , because gordon brown's wife, sarah, a nice woman, pr sarah, a very nice woman, pr woman, regularly introduced him much good. it did them because he election anyway. he lost the election anyway. >> it just seems a bit sort of old fashioned to have your wife up there, especially also , bear up there, especially also, bear in mind, wife's family are in mind, his wife's family are the billionaires. and this is the billionaires. and this is the criticism which is often levelled at rishi sunak that he doesn't appeal electorate doesn't appeal to the electorate because possibly know because how can he possibly know what like to not be able to what it's like to not be able to fill your seat and i think the theory this is what someone theory is this is what someone told night it. told me last night about it. >> her out on >> they said, get her out on stage. that stage. so people can see that she's very woman. she she's a very nice woman. she sounds ordinary. she dresses ordinary , and people think ordinary, and people won't think her billionaires

daughter. >> don't think we're >> i don't think we're that stupid and labour stupid because and also labour are that card the are going to play that card the whole particularly if they whole time, particularly if they start with inheritance tax. >> honestly, rishi and his family will do very well, joined it here in london, in manchester of with charlie rowley, of course, with charlie rowley, former adviser to former political adviser to michael gove. you've been through all these speeches a million times and probably one of members of the of the youngest members of the conservative party at the conference, milton township. milton, you've been on the program before. how is this your first conference? yes it is. and doesit first conference? yes it is. and does it put you off politics forever? >> no, not yet. >> no, not yet. >> right. what's your what is your impression? it's been amazing, you know, going around all the stalls, seeing obviously the speeches from your suella braverman and, um, but it's been really incisive and learning loads of different things about different topics . different topics. >> and you're 15, aren't you? >> and you're15, aren't you? >> and you're15, aren't you? >> milton yeah, 15. >> milton yeah, 15. >> not be at school >> yeah. should not be at school today . today. >> ea“ em- today. >> let me have time off. >> so they've let you have time off the conference? yes. off for the conference? yes. >> as soon about >> yeah. as soon as it's about engagement and want young engagement and we want young people you're people engaging because you're a great idea great champion of the idea of voting aren't no,

voting at 16, aren't you? no, i'm against very i'm against it. oh, very interesting . that's even after interesting. that's even after being here for a week. you don't think have vote think now you should have a vote at which at the general election, which could as may? could be as soon as may? >> no, i don't. i think it's not broken. why change it? i think labour obviously really be for it. and i just think it's a bit kind of gerrymander ring of votes. >> but we were saying actually charlie , how many young people charlie, how many young people there are at this conference? more than you would expect. lots of teenagers . and yes, there of teenagers. and yes, there have been, i guess get togethers from kids who are studying politics here. and they've come to .around.but politics here. and they've come to .around. but it to have a look .around. but it does that that idea does show that that that idea that the conservative party are all pensioners. it's not actually true . actually true. >> so yeah, i think that's absolutely right and i think it's a really good thing to open up allow everybody it's a really good thing to open up in allow everybody it's a really good thing to open up in be allow everybody it's a really good thing to open up in be engaged �*erybody it's a really good thing to open up in be engaged inrbody it's a really good thing to open up in be engaged in they to come in to be engaged in the political process . political process. >> about what you >> it's not just about what you see television. know, >> it's not just about what you see always television. know, >> it's not just about what you see always see vision. know, >> it's not just about what you see always see them. know, >> it's not just about what you see always see the green know, you always see the green benches in you see in the house of commons. you see those and the punch and those debates and the punch and judy politics across the despatch box. >> being to >> but actually being able to come where come to a conference where you're up and personal and you're up close and personal and you're up close and personal and you ministers you see cabinet ministers rushing can

rushing through, you can actually the actually get a sense of the importance and the leaders of people that are running the country. >> and you know, charlie, you've country. >> a|you're know, charlie, you've country. >> a|you're anow, charlie, you've country. >> a|you're a veteranirlie, you've country. >> a|you're a veteran ofe, you've been you're a veteran of conferences, which is you've conferences, which is why you've got a hoarse voice got such a hoarse voice because you've late you've had quite a few late nights, you? nights, haven't you? >> think how >> well, i think i think how many late nights have you i've been hard. been working incredibly hard. is that have that what it is? and day i have been sensible this week been very sensible this week because got to do labour because i've got to do labour next liverpool. next week in liverpool. >> the latest. i've been >> i have the latest. i've been to week. 1130. to bed this week. it's 1130. that's well done. that would be the earliest you've bed. the earliest you've been to bed. yes >> i look time when you're at conference, it's like a, you know, time escapes you. >> it's a blur. it's a blur. >> it's a blur. it's a blur. >> it's a it's such an >> it's such a it's such an important it's a important thing. and it's such a brilliant you're brilliant event when you're seeing people. >> too young to in >> milton, too young to be in the course. >> milton, too young to be in the but course. >> milton, too young to be in the but the course. >> milton, too young to be in the but the great e. >> milton, too young to be in the but the great thing about, >> but the great thing about, you know, milton milton you know, milton and milton milton's you you you know, milton and milton milthes you you you know, milton and milton milthe nail you you you know, milton and milton milthe nail on you you you know, milton and milton milthe nail on thevou you you know, milton and milton milthe nail on the head. you you know, milton and milton milthe nail on the head. bevrou you know, milton and milton milthe nail on the head. bev is1 hit the nail on the head. bev is because you hope that in the prime speech there because you hope that in the prim be speech there because you hope that in the prim be policies speech there because you hope that in the prim be policies that ech there because you hope that in the prim be policies that reach ere because you hope that in the prim be policies that reach out because you hope that in the prieverybody,5s that reach out because you hope that in the pri everybody, whetherzach out because you hope that in the prieverybody, whether it's out to everybody, whether it's protecting the triple lock for pensioners. >> the down young >> all the way down to young people , whether it's about people, whether it's about housing, getting on the housing ladden ladder, whether it's about education, whether it's about apprenticeships, it is, education, whether it's about app primelships, it is, education, whether it's about app prime minister it is, education, whether it's about app prime minister needs it is, education, whether it's about app prime minister needs it set the prime minister needs to set out measures to

out a whole raft of measures to appeal everybody across appeal to everybody right across the country. >> in speech, which the country. >:going in speech, which the country. >:going in be speech, which the country. >: going in be just eech, which the country. >:going in be just less, which the country. >:going inbe just less, whican is going to be just less than an hour from now, actually, rishi sunak that going hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat that going hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat we that going hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat we know1at going hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat we know is going hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat we know is saiding hour from now, actually, rishi suwhat we know is said he's to what we know is he said he's to what we know is he said he's to going change the status quo. what well i think what does he mean? well i think he's to present himself as he's going to present himself as the individual that can take the long term decisions in the national interest, the national interest, what the country the country needs, but also be the candidate country needs, but also be the canthate country needs, but also be the can that is country needs, but also be the canthat is something that comes >> that is something that comes up time again. up time and time again. apparently in focus that apparently in focus groups that are polled . are being polled. >> man. but hang on >> he's the man. but hang on a minute. you've been in power minute. if you've been in power for 13 years and you're saying what lot change, what we need is a lot of change, that's message, is it? >> but it's think about >> but it's i think it's about well, we certainly want well, i think we certainly want a change from the last couple of years there's years because there's been obviously the internal party politics obviously the internal party politinhasn't had hasn't party hasn't had the best hasn't demonstrated the best of itself. >> i don't that's that's a >> i don't think that's that's a very, basic thing. charlie very, very basic thing. charlie what what do you think of rishi sunak as a young man, 15? you're still at school. do you see him as a great leader, an inspirational leader ? inspirational leader? >> yeah, i think he's amazing, obviously. yeah. i mean , obviously. yeah. i mean, obviously. yeah. i mean, obviously it is relatively young

for prime minister. i think he's the youngest one we've had in quite a while. >> i think ever. i think he's younger than any . yeah, he's younger than any. yeah, he's younger than any. yeah, he's younger than any. yeah, he's younger than tony blair which. yeah, yeah. >> um, no, i think obviously >> um, but no, i think obviously he's facing a lot of , um, he's facing a lot of, um, diversion in. yeah. >> division. yeah, division know, i've been going to fringe events and you know, there's the cdo, events and you know, there's the cd0, they're more right wing, cdo, they're more right wing, you know, there's the conservative democrat . conservative democrat. >> yeah. and so i think we just need to unify and back him . he's need to unify and back him. he's a good leader. he's not had the job but think job for a while, but i think he's a good job so far. he's done a good job so far. >> what does your dad >> right. what does your dad think tory think of you being at the tory conference? course, conference? your dad, of course, was years. was a labour mp for many years. >> yeah, i think he supports me. i think likes getting i think he likes i'm getting into politics. yeah. and i think he it. um, there he likes it. um, there a different party? >> i remember. i don't remember , >> i remember. i don't remember i , >> i remember. i don't remember , i do remember william , but i do remember william haguei , but i do remember william hague i think was 15 when he made that speech to the tory conference in 1977 as mrs. thatcher looked down, looked at him when he made the speech, it haunted him for the rest of his political career, didn't it?

well, always was reference. >> this milton, careful >> this clip. milton, be careful . gonna be playing this in .we're gonna be playing this in ten years. when your prime minister, sort of had this minister, he sort of had this rather yorkshire rather irritating yorkshire accent he sort of spoke like >> and he sort of spoke like that. terrible hair. that. and he had terrible hair. and thatcher looked bemused and mrs. thatcher looked bemused at weirdo course, at this weirdo and of course, had say, this the had to say, oh, this is the future tory she future of the tory party. she was thinking, who the is was thinking, who the hell is this a of this guy? so milton, a bit of advice. the advice. don't go on the platform. well well, he did go on foreign on to become the foreign secretary though, of secretary though, and leader of the well. well, the party that went well. well, how as of the how did you do as leader of the party? the biggest party? labour had the biggest landslide their and landslide in their history. and in the tories in the 2001 election, the tories gained seat under william in the 2001 election, the tories gained thankst under william in the 2001 election, the tories gained thanks william.1/illiam in the 2001 election, the tories gained thanks william. well,n hague. thanks william. well, that's it's important. hague. thanks william. well, tha and it's important. hague. thanks william. well, tha and you:'s important. hague. thanks william. well, tha and you can nportant. hague. thanks william. well, tha and you can learn|nt. hague. thanks william. well, tha and you can learn lessons >> and you can learn lessons from elections and from these elections and rishi sunak team be sunak and the team will be making that going into the making sure that going into the next general election, because it rishi next general election, because it succeeded. rishi sunak succeeded. >> hague the richmond >> william hague as the richmond mp yorkshire. >> william hague as the richmond mp exactly, hire. >> william hague as the richmond mp exactly, ihirecan we >> william hague as the richmond mp exactly, hire can we talk >> exactly, sir, can we talk about strong women we've had about the strong women we've had on this week? we on stage this week? boys, as we as sit here with all kemi as i sit here with you all kemi badenoch and suella braverman have been the standout speeches of this week . suella yesterday of this week. suella yesterday was impressive . charlie. was very impressive. charlie. what would you predict for her personally in politics?

>> well, you never make predictions in politics over overly predictions, of course. >> but she look, she's clearly a very, very strongly opinionated woman. >> she's got she wants to get a grip of the home office. >> there are so many failures in the home office. >> i think we can all recognise that you know, goes >> i think we can all recognise that to you know, goes >> i think we can all recognise that to john u know, goes >> i think we can all recognise that to john reid, w, goes >> i think we can all recognise that to john reid, labour es >> i think we can all recognise that to john reid, labour home back to john reid, labour home secretary, that said that it wasn't purpose, it's not wasn't fit for purpose, it's not fit and it still isn't. >> and i think what trying >> and i think what she's trying to she's come in, to do is she's come in, she's talked things that to do is she's come in, she's talkedmatter things that to do is she's come in, she's talked matter to things that to do is she's come in, she's talked matter to people that to do is she's come in, she's talked matter to people right really matter to people right across the country, and that is immigration, in immigration, which was back in cameron's immigration, which was back in camerfrom 100,000 to the going from 100,000 to the tens of that been achieved. >> i think she wants to get a grip is the grip on getting at what is the future if there a future for her. if there is a leadership next leadership election next year, if tories lose, is she a if the tories lose, is she a serious contender to be leader? >> think there is so >> well, i think there is so much talent in the conservative party. >> why are you sitting on the fence? why are you sitting fence? the why are you sitting on the fence? i think there is gb we don't sit on the gb news. we don't sit on the fence there so much fence here, but there is so much in a way, i think so much talent in a way, i think so much talent in the conservative party. >> there's >> well, i'm not sure there's that there

that much there is. >> couldn't possibly >> i couldn't possibly sort of throw but i throw my way. but but what i would about suella just to would say about suella just to conclude her conclude is you don't want her to leader. i think to be leader. well, i think that's mean. what that's what you mean. what you've do. you've got to do. >> it's all about >> and again, it's all about learning lessons. you know, learning the lessons. you know, we hague we talked about william hague and learn and the you've got to learn lessons the issues lessons about all of the issues that have happened. liz truss that have happened. so liz truss did a broad church when that have happened. so liz truss did put a broad church when that have happened. so liz truss did put her a broad church when that have happened. so liz truss did put her a broaltogether.~hen she put her cabinet together. it was of truss was just a cabinet full of truss sites sort of ended, sites and that sort of ended, as we so if she we all know. so suella, if she wants leader, if she's wants to become leader, if she's got leadership ambitions, i think it's all well think it's very it's all well being and being talking tough and appealing the right appealing to perhaps the right of but needs of the party. but she needs to open appeal the left open up and appeal to the left as well. >> do think, milton? as well. >> you 0 think, milton? as well. >> youo you1ink, milton? as well. >> youo you see milton? as well. >> youo you see herton? as well. >> youo you see her as? as well. >> youo you see her as a would you do you see her as a future leader? future tory leader? >> 100. her kemi badenoch future tory leader? >> pateloo. her kemi badenoch future tory leader? >> patel all her kemi badenoch future tory leader? >> patel all contender badenoch future tory leader? >> patel all contender is. :ienoch priti patel all contender is. and i think . and i think. >> which of the three would you vote for? oh, you've got to. you've got to vote. don't sit on the fence like this bloke. >> that's a good question. actually, it's between mean. look my top three are priti patel, not liz. priti patel. suella braverman and kemi badenoch. >> which one would be the top of the list ? the list? >> suella braverman interesting

, isn't it? >> interesting. >> interesting. >> vote for the from the teenagers. >> yeah. and just two remarkable actually, because what what struck me being here this week , struck me being here this week, it's not easy to even become an mp, is it? it's not easy to even become an mp, is it ? the it's not easy to even become an mp, is it? the resilience required to be knocking on doors to be carrying clipboards, to be selected by your local association? thank you. that's what i'm looking for, to be selected to go through the hustings to get the seat , to be hustings to get the seat, to be elected, get maybe not be elected, to get maybe not be elected, to get maybe not be elected and try again. these women that we're talking about in those three potential leaders of the conservative party have put their hard yards in. people think on the outside. charlie that you just become an mp because you know the right people and you get given a seat. it doesn't work like that . it doesn't work like that. >> no, it doesn't. and you know, we were talking yesterday about susan in politics susan hall and women in politics and a disgrace and a and it is a disgrace and a scourge life scourge on our politics in life that do get a harder time that women do get a harder time in terms of the press. they get a harder it seems, in a harder time, it seems, in terms abuse emails and terms of the abuse of emails and onune terms of the abuse of emails and online media and all the

online social media and all the rest of it. >> so to be able do exactly >> so to be able to do exactly what said, your head what you said, put your head above as a woman in above the parapet as a woman in politics to make a politics to want to make a change a difference for your change and a difference for your communities the better go communities for the better to go through process and through all of that process and take that take all that abuse. >> tough, tough gig. so take all that abuse. >you tough, tough gig. so take all that abuse. >you know,)ugh, tough gig. so take all that abuse. >you know, it's1, tough gig. so take all that abuse. >you know, it's interesting. so i you know, it's interesting because people ask me, who would because people ask me, who would be in the race to be the be in the in the race to be the next leader if sunak goes next tory leader if sunak goes down defeat time. next tory leader if sunak goes dovthe defeat time. next tory leader if sunak goes dov the three at time. next tory leader if sunak goes dovthe three i time. next tory leader if sunak goes dovthe three i put time. next tory leader if sunak goes dovthe three i put in,me. next tory leader if sunak goes dovthe three i put in, i'd put >> the three i put in, i'd put two. i'd braverman versus two. i'd be braverman versus badenoch badenoch. yeah, women . badenoch badenoch. yeah, women. yeah. we could have a fourth tory woman leader, which would be an extraordinary achievement i >> - - >> let's find out what peter edwards thinks . a friend of the edwards thinks. a friend of the channel and former editor of labourlist. good morning, peter. thank you very much for joining us. just just topic, us. so just just on that topic, we've been discussing those we've been discussing with those potential leaders of the party, who you think would do the who would you think would do the best for job the conservatives if you narrow it down to suella braverman and kemi? badenoch well , well, as a labour voter, well, well, as a labour voter, i'm a bit of a mystified observer, but i do feel suella braverman has gone a bit too far

and i think kemi badenoch has the support from the right of the support from the right of the party and the eurosceptic wing, very long established . wing, very long established. >> she's energetic, ideas >> she's energetic, she's ideas and she's bit more measured in and she's a bit more measured in the she speaks so the way she speaks as well. so if labour were watching to win, i could be i think she could be a formidable opponent . formidable opponent. >> well, we're, we're leaping ahead now . let's talk about ahead now. let's talk about what's going happen the what's going to happen in the next half here in next half an hour here in manchester. rishi sunak has got to to stage . he's got to take to that stage. he's got to take to that stage. he's got to the association to talk to the association members who, members here in the hall, who, of course , didn't vote him into of course, didn't vote him into that position. he's got to win them also to them over, but he's also got to win the rest of the nation. win over the rest of the nation. what to say ? what does he need to say? >> well, i mean, i've no idea, to be honest. >> i'm very puzzled by going to manchester to announce cuts to a railway to manchester. and then i'm very puzzled, even more so by fact the tory media by the fact that the tory media department has allowed this speculation the speculation to dominate the whole week. and we've really finally confirmation this finally had confirmation this morning the second leg, the morning that the second leg, the further leg of hs2 will be scrapped to manchester. clearly he's announce other he's going to announce other things investment in things like investment in regional transport,

electrification across the north probably seems quite good and a bit of money for buses. and you know, constant refrain we know, this constant refrain we get about is someone who studies the makes long term the data and makes long term decisions . my question decisions. my question is, where's the vision? and when you're scrapping something very big like hs2 , how do you knit it big like hs2, how do you knit it into a story about your priorities? when the number one concern is cost of living ? concern is cost of living? >> but it's but but surely it's a sensible decision to cut the project at this stage , which project at this stage, which we've we're spending £110 billion to service our debt alone at the moment. and if this project is going to cost us several more billion, isn't it sensible , peter and there's been sensible, peter and there's been a lot of opposition against hs2 to say enough , we're not going to say enough, we're not going to say enough, we're not going to carry that on now ? to carry that on now? >> well, i'm a bit agnostic about hs2 itself, but having lived in leeds and carlisle and york, i do believe you do need massive investment, particularly in electrical patient. the problem is that all politicians say let's invest in the big

stuff called capital projects and accounts for that is different in terms of the government books and records. but then when you have austerity or any period of restraint, it's capital projects . as we saw with capital projects. as we saw with michael gove, ten years ago, and building schools for the future capital projects that gets packed . they're things packed. they're the things that are meant to make us all rich in the future . and do the future. and then we do finally do project like hs2. finally do a project like hs2. it a much more it comes out a much more equivalent , but much equivalent, but much more expensive rather compared to our european equivalents like france. prime minister france. but a prime minister can't get up there and say, let's more like france. can let's be more like france. can he ? he? >> yeah. okay peter, thank you. always good to see you. peter edwards there last week with these two boys. >> speech coming marks out >> the speech coming marks out of ten tory conference. of ten for this tory conference. you've coming story you've been coming to story comments of comments for years. marks out of ten. mean the social ten. it doesn't mean the social life, charlie. it means that you're come on, you're giving 11. no, come on, be . be what do be objective. be a bit. what do you think ? you really think? >> look, it's >> well, i think, look, it's been a well, i think you can only answer that honestly after the pm speech because that will be focus . we haven't seen be the focus. we haven't seen that policies have

that many policies that have come in the hall. come out in the hall. >> okay. whether been >> okay. week, whether it's been not there's a bit of not great, there's been a bit of a energy because of hs2. >> so until the prime minister gets up delivers, i hope to gets up and delivers, i hope to be a policy field packed with ideas, packed with change. >> then i think that will just lift everybody and it will be a ten out of ten performance by the minister. thought ten out of ten performance by the said minister. thought ten out of ten performance by the said something thought ten out of ten performance by the said something likenught ten out of ten performance by the said something like that. ten out of ten performance by the shaveomething like that. ten out of ten performance by the shave an ething like that. ten out of ten performance by the shave an objective) that. let's have an objective assessment you. your first assessment from you. your first conference, seven out of ten. seven. that's interesting . seven. that's interesting. >> aren't response has >> aren't response speech has been . it's been really been amazing. it's been really insightful . like you said, insightful. like you said, i haven't seen the prime minister's speech that could go up . but no, it's been amazing. up. but no, it's been amazing. and have you a ticket in the and have you got a ticket in the hall for the speech? and have you got a ticket in the halyes. the speech? and have you got a ticket in the halyes. well peech? and have you got a ticket in the halyes. well done.? and have you got a ticket in the halyes. well done. you right. >> yes. well done. you right. >> yes. well done. you right. >> thank gentlemen . great >> thank you, gentlemen. great to now, in next to see you. now, in the next few moments, speak to moments, we're going to speak to our tom our political editor, tom hannood, for hannood, on his predictions for the big speech. we are britain's newsroom on gb news, britain's newsroom on gb news, britain's news channel well, hello. >> good morning . we have a north >> good morning. we have a north south split in our weather today. here's your latest gb news weather bulletin. i'm alex burkill . we are going to see

burkill. we are going to see some weather already some wet weather already across western parts of scotland feeding further eastwards across many parts as we go through the day . but the heaviest will day. but the heaviest rain will always across western areas always be across western areas where to see totals where we're likely to see totals building localised building up some localised flooding and disruption to travel elsewhere across travel here. elsewhere across many parts of the uk, there will be around, perhaps be some showers around, perhaps not as we saw yesterday not as many as we saw yesterday and probably won't be quite and they probably won't be quite as and there's a lower as intense. and there's a lower chance seeing some thunder to chance of seeing some thunder to the winds will be slightly less strong temperatures strong and with temperatures reaching 20 celsius, it should possibly 20 celsius, it should feel relatively warm in any sunny breaks through the end of the day, we are going to see any showers dying there showers dying out, but there will some outbreaks of will still be some outbreaks of rain around. you can see some rain around. you can see some rain northern rain across parts of northern england northern ireland england into northern ireland and rain pushing into parts and some rain pushing into parts of wales and the south—west and then another swathe wet then another swathe of wet weather feeding across scotland as early hours as we go through the early hours of because of the of thursday. but because of the cloud it is likely to cloud and rain, it is likely to be a milder night than it has been for many places, been recently for many places, at we through at least as we go through thursday quite cloudy, thursday. then quite a cloudy, damp across particularly damp picture across particularly western north western parts

brighter the east. but brighter towards the east. but even here i am expecting the cloud to in bit as cloud to fill in a little bit as we into the afternoon. more we go into the afternoon. more wet weather then pushing its way in the west and the in from the west and the northwest and is going to northwest. and so it is going to turn wet, turn increasingly wet, particularly across western parts of scotland go parts of scotland as we go through thursday and into friday. temperatures for many similar today

>> good morning. welcome back to the toy party conference here in manchester where rishi sunak is almost certainly expected to announce that hs2 will be scrapped . he . will the scrapped. he. will the prime minister will make the announcement in his speech . announcement in his speech. >> there's been an urgent cabinet meeting this morning to sign off decision to scrap sign off the decision to scrap the . some say it's the northern link. some say it's a political gaffe from rishi sunak beggars belief in sunak not us beggars belief in some ways that they are about to do this to pull that plug here in manchester, there would show complete contempt for the people of this city, region and of the north of england as a whole. >> more strikes. >> more strikes. >> today's the first ever joint strike action by rail workers and the nhs with train drivers walking out on the last day of the conservative party .

conference and it's about half an hour until the prime minister gets on the stage here in manchester to tell you his vision for your country. i want to hear from you as well this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com first of all, though, here is the very latest news with rhiannon jones . news with rhiannon jones. >> bev thank you. good morning. it's 11:01. your top stories it's11:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom . and we from the gb newsroom. and we start with some breaking news. a murder investigation has been launched after a dog believed to be an xl bully killed a man in sunderland. police responded just before 7:00 last night following reports a dog had injured a 54 year old, a 44 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder . the dog was suspicion of murder. the dog was destroyed at the scene . a second destroyed at the scene. a second dog has been seized and we'll bnng dog has been seized and we'll bring you more on that as we get it. an urgent meeting is being

held by cabinet ministers to sign off the axing of the northern leg of the hs2 . gb news northern leg of the hs2. gb news understands the route between manchester and birmingham will be cancelled and that £10 billion will be spent on 50 transport projects across the north of england. instead said rishi sunak, set to defend the move when he addresses his party's conference shortly. defence minister grant shapps says the government is still committed to levelling up if he were to scrap it. >> it's the second leg of hs2 we're talking about and take that money you can't really judge it without finding out where that money is going to be spent because that could actually fantastic actually have a fantastic levelling up opportunity . levelling up opportunity. billions of pounds, tens of billions of pounds. so what could that be spent on? and perhaps there are things which are than are worthwhile doing more than building a high speed rail line given covid given what's happened since , given the change happened since, given the change in travel patterns . and in travel patterns. and meanwhile , the mayor of greater

meanwhile, the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, says the move will break multiple tory manifesto pledges it isn't too late. >> from our point of view, you could invite us in. we are prepared to discuss ways in which this could be done to provide that east west infrastructure first, but do not pull the plug on this city while you are in this city. do not pull the plug on the north of england. do not treat people here as second class citizens when it comes to transport. because if you do, do those things, people here will never forget . forget. >> while those attending the conference may well struggle to get home again as large parts of the train network are at a standstill today , thousands of standstill today, thousands of rail workers are on strike. the disruption means much of the country will be without services and those that are running will start later and finish earlier. members of drivers union aslef have walked out in a long running dispute over pay the rail delivery group and the government say there's a fair and reasonable deal on the

table. but aslef's general secretary mick whelan says the offer was designed to fail . offer was designed to fail. >> as you've seen this week, these people don't care. they don't want a resolution. they deliberately set up the last deal to fail by putting all our red lines within it, knowing we couldn't accept it and they do not want to us at all. not want to talk to us at all. they this to go on. they want this to go on. >> consultants as well as junior doctors, meanwhile, their doctors, meanwhile, are on their third final of third and final day of unprecedented strike action. many hospitals are operating on christmas day , christmas day christmas day, christmas day style cover. it's the longest strike in the dispute for consultants. whilst junior doctors are threatening further walkouts later this year. the bma's demanding a return of negotiations . but the government negotiations. but the government says this year's 6% pay rise is final . elsewhere, officials in final. elsewhere, officials in italy say foreign nationals are among the 21 people who died after a bus crashed off a flyover near venice last night. you iranian, german, french and croatian tourists are understood

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cross over to manchester and back to . andrew back to. andrew >> well , rishi back to. andrew >> well, rishi sunak will shortly be delivering his first speech to the conservative party conference since becoming prime minister . minister. >> the pm is going to announce the scrapping of hs2's northern leg route. >> the route is going to be cancelled. we think we he's cancelled. we think we know he's going announced £10 going to spend announced £10 billion on 50 transport projects across england . across the north of england. >> so our deputy political editor hannood is with us editor tom hannood is with us now. morning, tom. and we're also joined by penny gains , the also joined by penny gains, the chair stop hs2 campaign chair of the stop hs2 campaign group to you both. group. great to see you both. tom, come to you. what tom, let me come to you. what what do we know moment what do we know at the moment about extra routes which about these extra routes which are be offered to are going to be offered to appease north because it appease the north because it sounds to me as a northern girl , like good story? well , like a good news story? well we don't know anything at all about the specific projects about the 50 specific projects that we know. >> prime minister will >> the prime minister will announce . it's likely that announce. it's likely that there'll more delivering

there'll be more fast delivering projects. we've heard a lot of rumours about roads, about buses , about sorts of things that might be ready actually in time for the next election . perhaps for the next election. perhaps this is a bit of a short term strategy from the prime minister , despite the slogan of this conference long conference being long term decisions brighter future. decisions for a brighter future. but of course the big question mark is northern powerhouse rail. that's the new proposed east west link to connect liverpool to manchester to leeds . will that be part of this .will that be part of this package?i .will that be part of this package? i think that's unlike given that £10 billion for 50 projects doesn't give much money towards that east west link. if we if we look at how much was spent on crossrail in london, the elizabeth line, that was £10 billion for one railway going east to west, £10 billion for 50 projects. it doesn't sound like it's going to be much railway apart from electrification , the apart from electrification, the sort of incremental upgrades of existing if it's but if it's 50 projects that could be affecting 50 constituencies. >> that's quite clever politics because that's going to be on

the of every local the front pages of every local newspaper. going be newspaper. it's going to be local, and radio. local, regional tv and radio. >> that's what the >> that's certainly what the prime been looking >> that's certainly what the pri1we're been looking >> that's certainly what the pri1we're looking been looking >> that's certainly what the pri1we're looking at)een looking >> that's certainly what the pri1we're looking at shortooking >> that's certainly what the pri1we're looking at short termg at. we're looking at short term political expediency, matter at. we're looking at short term politmany(pediency, matter at. we're looking at short term polit many times 1cy, matter at. we're looking at short term politmany times he. matter at. we're looking at short term politmany times he says natter at. we're looking at short term politmany times he says he'sr how many times he says he's taking long term decisions, they never do. and no doubt he will say this repeatedly throughout this speech. this is about taking decisions . no, taking long term decisions. no, this decision , this seems that this decision, this seems that this decision, this centrepiece of his this centrepiece decision of his speech is about short term, short term political expediency i >> -- >> so for that £10 billion, what you're saying is some of those northern towns, leeds, liverpool, manchester, etcetera, will just get new buses, new roads . it's something they can roads. it's something they can do quickly and will make an impact to those communities. >> i think that's highly, highly likely. know that the likely. we do know that the government has already committed, mass committed, though, to a mass transit in leeds . perhaps transit system in leeds. perhaps some of this money will go towards that and that's something michael gove something that michael gove announced back he announced back when he was announcing new housing announcing the new housing agenda of this government because leeds largest because leeds is the largest city in europe to not have a mass transit system. in fact , it mass transit system. in fact, it used to it used to have some trams back in the day, but they

were ripped out . were ripped out. >> so if they tap into that will be the ultimate levelling up. >> yes, although the tories will say they say that although say they will say that although there some big, big there are some big, big questions answer, questions still to answer, clearly there are. there's lot clearly there are. there's a lot of the of pressure within the conservative northern conservative party. the northern research conservative research group of conservative mps pushing for this mps have been pushing for this east west rail link, northern powerhouse rail. they want it to be called the charles line to reflect the elizabeth line down in london, connecting those major northern cities. but as i say, as in as in king charles, but as i say, it seems unlikely given the number of projects that are expected owing this funding to go towards that. there will be that centrepiece long term piece of infrastructure after all, i suppose if you're the prime minister and you're thinking about going to cause about what's going to cause benefits to your cause within 12 months, it's not going to be an entirely new railway. penny gains from stop hs2 campaign is this all your fault? >> oh, i hope so . yeah. we're >> oh, i hope so. yeah. we're being campaigning for quite some time. and one of the

alternatives we always said is that you could build a lot more smaller projects that would bnng smaller projects that would bring more benefit to more people more quickly. and if that's sunak says in that's what rishi sunak says in his will very his speech, will be very pleased about but tell us why. about that. but tell us why. >> what did you object to fundamentally, cost, the fundamentally, the cost, the destruction of nature and houses? what was your main objection ? objection? >> we had three main objections. >> we had three main objections. >> first of all, the business case, we've always said that video and digital video conferencing and digital technologies are the alternative to hs2 . and as we expected it to to hs2. and as we expected it to be, our children's generation when they came into the workforce. but as we saw with the with the pandemic , a lot of the with the pandemic, a lot of people found that they people suddenly found that they could home, changed could work from home, changed everything. and of course , the everything. and of course, the second factor was the environment and the hs2 won't reduce carbon emissions for 120 years after opening, it will still be causing increased carbon emissions . it goes carbon emissions. it goes through huge swathes of the countryside. eri isn't it? >> digging up all that gorgeous , glorious green countryside ?

appalling. >> it is . and we're hoping that >> it is. and we're hoping that sort of heal that if rishi sunak announces that hs2 , well, our announces that hs2, well, our real hope is that he'll cancel a whole lot. but that's a bit possibly a bit of a stretch. >> cancel a whole lot phase one as well. >> so but i don't think that's already been built though, isn't it? >> a lot of it's already built a lot already tunnelled. lot of it's already tunnelled. the says the prime minister says repeatedly in repeatedly there are spades in the track has been laid the ground track has been laid and it would a pity ten and it would be a pity ten minutes quicker. >> that's going to cost £20 >> and that's going to cost £20 billion. the extraordinary billion. well, the extraordinary thing the most thing about this is the most difficult most expensive difficult and the most expensive bit the london to birmingham bit is the london to birmingham bit, because that's the key that then unlocks the fork . then unlocks the fork. >> and of course the leg to leeds was already cancelled earlier the rail review last earlier in the rail review last year and now this this leg up to manchester appears to be cancelled . it really does cancelled. it really does undermine the business case for the first leg as well. but of course, at the start of all of this, was going to cost this, this was going to cost around £30 billion. now we're looking at it being north of 100 odd billion pounds, although to

some extent the blame can be laid at the foot of conservative mps who have said there's lots of lovely , gorgeous countryside. of lovely, gorgeous countryside. the chilterns are very, very pretty. so they they have created tunnels and cut and cover and noise reduction and wildlife preservation preservation cycle tracks and all the rest of it. all the way along the route, making it one of the most expensive railways in the world. and the curious thing is when victorians thing is when the victorians built railways, they didn't mind a viaduct going over countryside. in fact, in some ways that could have improved the vista and certainly given you better trains, better phone signal on the train. it's very cunous signal on the train. it's very curious that this is now going to deliver . by some estimates, to deliver. by some estimates, only seven minutes of sunlight right between london and birmingham , because so much of birmingham, because so much of it is underground, much of is underground or cut or cut down and i think than the channel tunnel. >> penny , you didn't ask what

>> penny, you didn't ask what your third objection was. >> the objection the >> the third objection is the cost. always it's cost. we've always said it's a hugely project . and hugely expensive project. and like tom was saying, it started off billion. it's going off at 30 billion. it's going sort of 100 billion. >> lord berkeley told us yesterday he did the independent review probably review into hs2. you probably know balfe. he said it know lord balfe. yes, he said it would be nearer £180 billion. unbelievable bill. >> it is unbelievable. >> it is unbelievable. >> times higher than what was the original estimate. >> and the other thing that we've found out very we've just found out very recently limited . didn't recently is hs2 limited. didn't want to people know what the want to let people know what the budget, what the cost of phase two be until royal two b would be until royal assent. so they're trying to hide the costs and they've already done that in 2019 with nusrat ghani, she came to parliament and she told when she was a transport minister she said, oh, the budget is £55 billion. she knew at the time that it wasn't going to come in at that cost. she knew it was going to go up and that's when it to 106 billion. and it went up to 106 billion. and like tony says, it could be 180. we don't know how much the we just don't know how much the total cost. >> how are you going to celebrate you've won .

celebrate because you've won. oh, you're to kill off oh, you're not going to kill off phase one, but you've won the main part of your argument. >> i haven't quite got that far . i mean, i came up to manchester on sunday on the train. i wasn't expecting sing the noise about hs2 to be quite so loud. so i've been really busy this week. why did you get involved with it in the first place? >> penny, briefly, what's your interest? >> well, i lived in buckinghamshire at the time. i now bournemouth, so of now live near bournemouth, so of course live close to course when you live close to something that, look at something like that, you look at the details and when you look at the details and when you look at the details, it was a bad project . so people have talked project. so people have talked about. project. so people have talked about . the it was very much about. the it was very much going to affect your area basically . yeah. i mean that was basically. yeah. i mean that was part of it . if basically. yeah. i mean that was part of it. if it been a good project, i'd have said, well, yeah , you might have been in yeah, you might have been in support of it. >> well, the rishi sunak, i think , is on his way. >> well, the rishi sunak, i think , is on his way . we're think, is on his way. we're going to get live pictures of the prime minister. he's heading into the conservative party conference. there he is. oh, his wife chosen same

wife has chosen to wear the same suit as me. >> she must known. he >> she must have known. well, he must you know , flattering. >> what is it? imitation is the biggest >> what is it? imitation is the big and wearing >> what is it? imitation is the bigand wearing a pink >> what is it? imitation is the big and wearing a pink trouser >> and wearing a pink trouser suit. think she's going suit. and we think she's going to with tradition the to break with tradition for the tories, by introducing tories, certainly by introducing him stage. would be him on the stage. that would be a role for the tory a speaking role for the tory partner, the prime minister's partner. first time ever. i would think at a tory conference. labour did it a lot in with gordon brown. i don't think david cameron's wife samantha think david cameron's wife samantimay's husband, philip, theresa may's husband, philip, the sienna, he the man from sienna, he certainly didn't. >> that's right. so this is akshata murphy. she is, of course , the daughter course, the daughter of a billionaire family, own all course, the daughter of a billioofire family, own all course, the daughter of a billioof companiesywn all course, the daughter of a billioof companies all all course, the daughter of a billio of companies all over the sorts of companies all over the world. >> and gorgeous isn't she? >> and gorgeous isn't she? >> she's she's beautiful . she is >> she's she's beautiful. she is lovely. and i don't know. i'm torn. tom hannood. i don't know about think it's a about you, but i think it's a bit to have your wife bit odd to have your wife introduce you on stage. think if i prime minister's wife, i was the prime minister's wife, i'd find that a bit icky. >> i'm sure. i think it's >> i'm not sure. i think it's quite american, if quite american, actually. if you look to what happens in look across to what happens in the states , everyone the united states, everyone knows michelle obama such knows michelle obama is such a big figure. course, jill big figure. of course, jill biden , and she's impressive

biden, and she's more impressive than the president. well, quite, quite . but than the president. well, quite, quite. but but also than the president. well, quite, quite . but but also even even quite. but but also even even candidates, casey desantis is a massive asset to ron desantis and his campaign. it seems there's a much more formal role for the political wife or indeed political husband in the united states. but of course, boris johnson, when he was prime minister, sort of started to see perhaps a first lady role appean >> but have we ever had have we have we ever had a female prime minister introduced on stage by her husband? it would be odd, wouldn't it? so we have to ask ourselves, why would that actually be too busy in the bar with his gin and tonic and theresa may's husband, philip . theresa may's husband, philip. oh, did you see? there's. there's something i don't. >> i think it's a little bit. >> i think it's a little bit. >> i think it's a little bit. >> i don't know. i think it's a bit fashioned. bit old fashioned. >> think old fashioned? yeah. mean, does seem >> yeah. i mean, it does seem a bit but doesn't it? bit strange, but doesn't it? >> sort of. >> it's sort of. >> it's sort of. >> it's sort of. >> it's all kind of deferring and they don't look and clapping. they don't look like equals. there's something about also, about not being like also, i think he's trying. >> we're reading too

think he's trying. >> into we're reading too think he's trying. >> into it,e're reading too think he's trying. >> into it, but'eading too think he's trying. >> into it, but'eading “tom, much into it, but i think, tom, there's a significant there's a more significant i think they're trying to neutralise the fact he's the richest we've richest prime minister we've ever to ever had because he's married to a who's daughter a woman who's the daughter of a billionaire. is an billionaire. so presenter is an ordinary woman. she looks lovely, she dresses lovely, she speaksin lovely, she dresses lovely, she speaks in an ordinary way. that's what she she's been out and about a bit more the last and about a bit more in the last couple of months, whereas the first ten months of rishi sunak premiership, we didn't see her at all. >> and that i think perhaps this might be making this sense of her as someone who's a bit aloof or aside or unknown, perhaps that leads into the sense of, of otherness, of, of wealthy and out of touch and all the rest of it. it seems like there is a concerted strategy now to introduce mrs. murphy to the british public. she's been out and about in this conference. she did a walkabout on the first day looking at all the stands. she was followed by press. it seems like she's more seems like she's becoming more of figure and potentially this of a figure and potentially this introduction of that introduction is part of that introduction is part of that introduction of herself . introduction of herself. >> she was all right with the

press i saw her, the press because i saw her, the gallery, and she chatted away quite and animated. quite easily and animated. and i can hague quite easily and animated. and i can tory hague quite easily and animated. and i can tory leader hague quite easily and animated. and i can tory leader following hague quite easily and animated. and i can tory leader following his hague was tory leader following his wife. what was his wife called for on the day i had my job was i was on the transom was to get her to tell me what was her favourite womble. the reason this favourite womble , because favourite womble. the reason this fbatt, ite womble , because favourite womble. the reason this fbatt, ite wwasle , because favourite womble. the reason this fbatt, ite wwas created ruse favourite womble. the reason this fbatt, ite wwas created one, mike batt, who was created one, was had written the tory theme tune i couldn't tune theme music. so i couldn't even get mrs. hague to tell me what her favourite one was because so terrified of because she was so terrified of having . and of course having an opinion. and of course i monster to her the paper i monster to her in the paper and she monster then for and she got monster then for days people just days because people just thought, point thought, what is the point of a political wife if she doesn't say if she just looks say anything? if she just looks pretty? least she's pretty? so at least here she's going be active. going to be active. >> we're seeing rishi sunak 2.0 at this conference very much. john the man who was cautious john is the man who was cautious and retiring and steady . and now and retiring and steady. and now we're seeing this this new sort of revved up. i think he'd like us to think much more. battling change candidate perhaps part of thatis change candidate perhaps part of that is introducing his family to us in a new way humanising him because of course, what he

often gets criticised for is being a little robotic and not necessarily talking from the heart and so they're to heart and so they're going to portray guess, as portray him, i guess, as a family which he is. we're family man, which he is. we're to going hear more about to going hear a bit more about his personal history as well in this speech. >> dad being a gp >> we're told his dad being a gp mum, being a pharmacist, of course, we've we've course, now we've heard we've heard his family farmers. >> we hear a lot more about it. but i think we're going to hear a bit more the person of a bit more about the person of rishi him as rishi sunak. what drives him as an think rishi sunak. what drives him as an of think rishi sunak. what drives him as an of the think rishi sunak. what drives him as an of the big think rishi sunak. what drives him as an of the big things think rishi sunak. what drives him as an of the big things clearly( one of the big things clearly that been to and that he's been trying to say and he saying it to chris hope he was saying it to chris hope in yesterday on gb in his interview yesterday on gb news that he wants to be news was that he wants to be able to change things. he's got able to change things. he's got a vision for the united kingdom and for a long time, people have said the tory party and the labour they're basically labour party, they're basically just same managerial. what's just the same managerial. what's the what's the difference? what's the change? i think rishi sunak sees this as an opportunity to set out something different. the question is will people buy it? and at the same time as he's trying to present himself as this radical thatcherite figure changing in a

pro—market direction, we hear rumours that there are going to be more banning things coming about that in this speech. one of the big rabbits smoking could be ban on smoking be an incremental ban on smoking and that's exactly the same playbook as jacinda ardern in new zealand where they passed a ban that rises by each year. so a 17 year old now can't buy cigarettes. the idea would be that when they then turn 18, they still couldn't 19, that when they then turn 18, they still couldn't19, 20, 21 and as each year goes fonnard, the level at which you can the age at which you can buy cigarettes rises. that's a policy that apparently a number 10 has been pulling and they find is quite popular , find is quite popular, apparently. and so and so this could be a significant point in the speech. also, this much touted, much fabled ban on disposable vaping, quite possibly that will be announced in this speech as well, which will be seen as a as a bit of a populist move . populist move. >> lots of applause now because penny morton, who's the leader of the commons, she's just got

on stage she's a very on the stage now. she's a very good will good public speaker and she will make will make make them laugh. she will make lots jokes and look at the lots of jokes and look at the applause she's getting because she the she was very popular with the activists could activists and could could potentially be next tory potentially be the next tory leader . i potentially be the next tory leader. i don't she potentially be the next tory leader . i don't she will leader. i don't think she will because got a problem because she's got a problem about she about the trans issue. she refers not refers to pregnant people, not pregnant . pregnant women. >> yeah, very much so . go on, >> yeah, very much so. go on, tom, you were going to say something. i think we should just listen to penny has just listen in to what penny has to say. >> we'll have listen. is >> we'll have a listen. this is penny you all. for all that you >> see you all. for all that you do, all that you believe in, and for being here today . and it's for being here today. and it's important that you are because . important that you are because. because this is the turning point . it is because this is the turning point. it is the point from which we are going to be measured now, physically getting here has not been straight fonnard. mick whelan will be very disappointed to see so many of you . here absolutely.

of you. here absolutely. absolutely . but we are quite absolutely. but we are quite used to people trying to disrupt our conference. whether you're a new member and this is your first conference or you have been a stalwart of the party for decades , you have all had to decades, you have all had to stand up to bullies. decades, you have all had to stand up to bullies . you've had stand up to bullies. you've had your offices graffitied, you've been trolled online. you've been called scum . you've had physical called scum. you've had physical threats . some of you have had threats. some of you have had death threats. and i know that some of you who in this hall today have faced sanctions and threats from hostile states , no threats from hostile states, no matter what the attack , we don't matter what the attack, we don't back. matter what the attack, we don't back . down on 39 years ago. this back. down on 39 years ago. this conference met in the aftermath of the brighton bomb , standing of the brighton bomb, standing up to bullies is what we do . so

up to bullies is what we do. so . so i know that you are a tough bunch and that strength comes from a deep motivation to serve and respect for the rights of the individual . and i am glad of the individual. and i am glad of that courage because what i have to say to you today is not for the faint hearted conference we face the fight of our lives and our country needs us again to stand up and fight. stand up and fight . against the odds, against fight. against the odds, against the polling, against the sneering commentary , against the sneering commentary, against the inevitability of decliners and

the despite brexiteers . stand up the despite brexiteers. stand up and fight against the sanctimonious claptrap of a labor party who have forgotten their mrsa infected hospitals and their soaring council tax and their soaring council tax and fuel duty. mass youth unemployment and the economic mess they left us to sort out. stan stand up and fight. stand up and fight because when we do all is possible . now, we do all is possible. now, later on, you're going to be heanng later on, you're going to be hearing from our brilliant prime minister and he is going to be talking about the future for about the long term and how politics needs to change for a brighter future. but for the time i have with you , i want you time i have with you, i want you to cast your minds back. now as you know, i am a portsmouth girl

and on the south coast, we know and on the south coast, we know a thing or two about fighting . a thing or two about fighting. over the years. we have been in one scrap after another and my city still bears the scars to this day . many of you in this this day. many of you in this hall will remember the 1980s. i know what you're thinking. lord dannatt couldn't remember the 19805. dannatt couldn't remember the 1980s. she is far too young . 1980s. she is far too young. conference. i have to tell you, i was there and one of my first memories was standing on the hot walls in portsmouth , and i was walls in portsmouth, and i was watching hms hermes take the falklands task force out of the harbour and i stood proud that day . i harbour and i stood proud that day. i knew harbour and i stood proud that day . i knew watching those men day. i knew watching those men and those ships that my country stood up to bullies those men and those family his knew that some would not be coming back .

some would not be coming back. it was deeply moving . and it it was deeply moving. and it moves me still to think that . moves me still to think that. you see, it was the moment i realised that courage is infectious . you see, that is infectious. you see, that is what conservative party is . for what conservative party is. for thatis what conservative party is. for that is what this nation is for. we stand up and fight. we are the party, city and country that stood up and fought and fascists lists. we are the party and country who's resolved enabled super powers to end a cold war. we are the party and country that sent my classmates , fathers that sent my classmates, fathers and ships from my dockyard to stand up and fight for the rights of the falkland islanders

to self—determination in all nafion to self—determination in all nation , all against the nation, all against the prevailing wisdom that it could not and should not be done. we are the party and country that have stood from the start with ukraine on. we are the party and country that stood up for democracy . we who gave our democracy. we who gave our countrymen an the choice to join a european trading bloc. countrymen an the choice to join a european trading bloc . and 40 a european trading bloc. and 40 years later, the choice to leave what it had become . we are the what it had become. we are the party and country that transformed armed the sick man of europe into a titan of on the global stage who stood up and fought against militant trade unions and broke their chokehold on britain . a few brave people on britain. a few brave people with courage and conviction and love of country who thought about the long term , not short about the long term, not short term popularity , who knew what

term popularity, who knew what needed to be done and took on the bullies to achieve it . the bullies to achieve it. margaret thatcher and every single person that stood with her and fought for a better future . now conference. i happen future. now conference. i happen to know that lord tebbit is tuned in to our proceedings from . home he remember you today and we thank you . all of you we thank you. all of you. >> all of you still in spire. >> all of you still in spire. >> never forget those who went before us. and remember that without a churchill you can't have a zelenskyy confirm since i

am telling you all of this because i want you to remember that our greatest moments as a party that our greatest moments as a party and a country we come from when we feel at our lowest ebb and we face such a moment now unprecedented threats yield unprecedented threats yield unprecedented opportunity for unprecedented opportunity for unprecedented fears provide unprecedented fears provide unprecedented challenge . so why unprecedented challenge. so why have i taken you all back to the 19805? have i taken you all back to the 1980s? very simply, conference because that is where the labour party now wishes to return , can party now wishes to return, can make no mistake, they want to fight the battles of the past . fight the battles of the past. all that we have worked so hard to achieve is in peril. the freedom to use our roads without

protesters or politicians stopping you. the freedom to access public services and pubuc access public services and public transport. the freedom to build a business and create wealth . the freedom to invest in wealth. the freedom to invest in your children . the freedom to your children. the freedom to make of ourselves everything our talents and determination. allow the freedom to speak one's mind. the freedom of political association, the freedom to take personal responsibility. all all at risk . make no mistake what at risk. make no mistake what will happen if we fail to win a general election and the biggest threat of all is that the sons and daughters of scargill are readying for a rematch of the battle of the 1980s, no less than the repeal of all the reforms and freedoms we have brought in, aided and abetted by laboun brought in, aided and abetted by labour, fuelled by the politics

of envy , identity and class of envy, identity and class hatred , an outdated dogmatic hatred, an outdated dogmatic irrelevant to the needs of the people . we we've seen this people. we we've seen this before . before. >> we have seen this before . our >> we have seen this before. our . the labour control gold city of birmingham council following the labour controlled liverpool city council into scuttling around , handing out redundancy around, handing out redundancy notices to its own workers in the wake of bankruptcy . the wake of bankruptcy. >> we have seen this movie before. they want to return . us before. they want to return. us to the 1980s conference and we are not for return .

are not for return. no . we must are not for return. no. we must never again let this country to be subject to the bully boy barons of militant trade unions. the mattracks , the mick lynch's the mattracks, the mick lynch's people who say they are to going defend your community while destroying it. people who say the hard working families, the best way they can make ends meet is to drive those ends further apart by going on strike. people who tell you your cancelled operation on your national health service that you fund is a price worth paying for them to meet their agenda . people who meet their agenda. people who want to turn the bma into the new conference we have seen this all before . we must never again

all before. we must never again let this country be tortured by the rack and the lynch mob. they are the iron fist, the iron fist . so now let me tell you about the velvet glove . the smooth, the velvet glove. the smooth, silky red velvet glove that would give them cover . you see, would give them cover. you see, conference. i don't know about you , but i do not trust the you, but i do not trust the leadership of keir starmer to be able to stand up to the iron fist . why because he is not even fist. why because he is not even capable of standing up to mark drake offered and his plans for an independent wales is . no . 20

an independent wales is. no. 20 mile an hour. independent wales or sadiq khan and his taxes on the working poor or angela rayner and her trade union charter. he is incapable of standing up and fighting . he standing up and fighting. he doesn't believe in anything . he doesn't believe in anything. he doesn't believe in anything. he doesn't stand for anything. who is he? a few years ago he wanted you all to think he was jeremy corbyn. he sat in his shadow cabinet knowing full well what that would mean if that man ever got into downing street. what it would mean for our defences . he would mean for our defences. he watched that while colleagues of jewish heritage were driven from his party and at the turn of this year, he wanted you all to think he was neil kinnock. he used the exact language that kinnock used in that fantastic conference speech he made when he took on the hard left of hatton and heffer. and at that moment we conservatives, we

cheered . we cheered kinnock cheered. we cheered kinnock because we recognised his courage . we recognised his courage. we recognised his motivation because it was ours too . it didn't matter that he too. it didn't matter that he was our opponent. he was fighting for our country when, as sir keir ever done that ? no as sir keir ever done that? no starmer has emboldened militant trade unionism and voted against protecting the public access to the service as they pay for. and now in act three, he wants you all to believe he's tony . blair all to believe he's tony. blair starmer will do anything and say anything to win an election . and anything to win an election. and thatis anything to win an election. and that is where his ambition ends , along with the power that he will cede to his union

paymasters and an nec which needs a focus group to tell it to sing the national anthem . he to sing the national anthem. he will not stand up and fight for anything or anyone. he won't stand up for you . more likely stand up for you. more likely he's going to lie down, lie down in the street with just stop oil lie down with the lib dems and the snp. lie down with ed davey , the man that makes tim farron look like a giant. , the man that makes tim farron look like a giant . yeah . look like a giant. yeah. lie down with humza yousaf . the man down with humza yousaf. the man that made nicola sturgeon look competent . but but. just that made nicola sturgeon look competent. but but. just think for a moment what that would

mean for our relationship with the eu and for the union of our precious united kingdom . right precious united kingdom. right at the point when our brilliant nafion at the point when our brilliant nation should be focussed on the new opportunities ahead when it should be thinking about the future takes ing the long term decisions to guarantee its success. let's be in no doubt that what is at stake for these people will erase everything we have achieved. they will deny britain all all it. can be so if you remember nothing else , from you remember nothing else, from what i have said today , remember what i have said today, remember this . stand what i have said today, remember this. stand up and fight. stay stand up and fight for our families , for workers, for the families, for workers, for the protectors, for the wealth

creators. stand up for those that take responsibility , stand that take responsibility, stand up and fight for all those people that voted to leave the eu and those that voted to remain and accepted the result and wish our country well . stand and wish our country well. stand up and fight for your communities . as for scotland , communities. as for scotland, for wales, for northern ireland. for england . for england. stand up and fight for the freedoms we have won against socialism. whether it is made of velvet or iron . have courage and velvet or iron. have courage and conviction because when you do , conviction because when you do, you move our countrymen in our communities and capital of all kinds to our cause. stand up and

fight because when you stand up and fight the person beside you stands up and fights and when our party stands up and fights the nation stands up and fights . and when our nation stands up and fights other nations stand up and fight and they stand up and fight for the things upon which the entire the progress of humanity depends. freedom from thatis humanity depends. freedom from that is what that conservatives do . to that is what this nation do. to that is what this nation doesis do. to that is what this nation does is have courage , bring does is have courage, bring hope. so stand up and fight. stand up and fight. thank you. conference .

conference. >> that was penny mordaunt, the leader of the commons. a great tubthumping performance . tom, tubthumping performance. tom, you and i have seen her in the commons. she's very good at the despatch box, isn't she? she's very her feet. was despatch box, isn't she? she's v1very her feet. was despatch box, isn't she? she's v1very really her feet. was despatch box, isn't she? she's v1very really cheeredt. was despatch box, isn't she? she's v1very really cheered up was despatch box, isn't she? she's v1very really cheered up the was a very really cheered up the activists just before rishi sunak what penny sunak this is what penny mordaunt does. >> in perfect job for >> she's in the perfect job for it. her job is to stand up at that box and really that despatch box and really deliver great entertainment for the chamber. when she was standing to be prime minister and came third, course, and came third, of course, amongst conservative mps, one of her big slogans was make up make pmqs fun again. she's seen as one of these people who really can speak and rouse and galvanise and of course she leant into so many themes that we know penny mordaunt for. she's a portsmouth girl. she is a naval reservist. we heard so much about the 1980s, the falklands. we heard about standing up and fighting and all of those themes were so profound there in that speech. although of course there are some

criticisms of penny mordaunt as well. people have criticised her for perhaps not being entirely on top of her brief. we are now seeing johnny mercer there, the veterans standing up at veterans minister standing up at the at the podium in the row. >> i wonder why he's on the platform. so is that because he's dashing and good looking? a former model? >> interesting. former model? >> ianything g. do with >> has anything to do with it? >> has anything to do with it? >> of course. leader >> of course. of course. leader of veterans of the commons and veterans minister aren't the most senior positions in cabinet they've been left to today . some of the been left to today. some of the larger great offices of state, of course, had had speeches on previous days. >> but it's funny what you were saying fact saying then, tom, about the fact that penny draws upon that penny mordaunt draws upon this sort of military aura that seems to surround her when she spoke. what was the speech? i think it was when she was trying to be pm. you remember she had the backdrop. >> yes, the naval the chart , >> yes, the naval the chart, right. she said that she she again, with no notes , with again, with no notes, with a learnt speech , delivered her learnt speech, delivered her pitch to be party leader . that pitch to be party leader. that really accelerated her her her chances there. and she did much

better than people thought. now we've got the veterans now we've got johnny mercer's veterans. >> there kind military >> there is a kind of military style , sort of protective air style, sort of protective air about this, isn't it? it's letting us think we are in charge. we will keep you. we'll keep you safe. and that's always been what the conservatives have leant been what the conservatives have lea people, course, see >> people, of course, see margaret thatcher as as a war margaret thatcher as a as a war leader , but perhaps we should leader, but perhaps we should listen a listen to what listen to. have a listen to what johnny saying and i want us johnny was saying and i want us to focus on what lies to really focus on what lies ahead, because out there, there's a country that is yearning to won be over that really does not want to vote. >> and have a labour government . they want to change. they want to change. that works better for them. everyone wants change after 13 years. just ask my wife because life's really difficult out there at the moment, right?

it's really tough in cities like mine . and look, we've done a lot mine. and look, we've done a lot to support people right? you can't argue with it being half of the average household bill freezing fuel duty benefits rising in line with inflation to look after our poorest people through the storms . but for too through the storms. but for too many people , it doesn't feel many people, it doesn't feel like that . and we haven't got it like that. and we haven't got it always right . and we like that. and we haven't got it always right. and we all like that. and we haven't got it always right . and we all know always right. and we all know that. always right. and we all know that . okay. but change always right. and we all know that. okay. but change is always right. and we all know that . okay. but change is afoot that. okay. but change is afoot and i would not be here today if that was not happening . you feel that was not happening. you feel the change you can feel the change this week , long term change this week, long term decisions for a brighter future actually mean something, right? take my crusade on veterans affairs. i joined this party because, like many ordinary britons today, i saw it as the party of the nation. moderate patriot committed and values

dnven.l patriot committed and values driven . i believe that if i driven. i believe that if i could show the values that were missing in the care of my generation of veterans of afghanistan, this party would close that gap because it was a values thing. it was a values thing. how we look after those who served , those who, instead who served, those who, instead of shouting loudest about their country outside yet another party conference, those who actually crossed that threshold and were prepared to sacrifice body and mind for our way of life , for our country, for our life, for our country, for our values . and in the last 30 values. and in the last 30 years, we have seen politicians repeatedly failing to take the long term choices for our veterans . but this pm has been veterans. but this pm has been different from the start , and i different from the start, and i would not be here if he wasn't . would not be here if he wasn't. he made a conscious decision straight away that we were going to follow in the footsteps of our american, australian, canadian and other peer nation allies and change our structure

of government to better look after our veterans . he decided after our veterans. he decided that he would have a veterans minister in his cabinet for the first time, that he would constitute the office for veterans affairs properly , and veterans affairs properly, and that we would finally close that gap between what we say about our veterans, including from this very conference stage , and this very conference stage, and how it feels to be a veteran in the united kingdom today. because the truth is, the veterans care in the united kingdom has been transformed . kingdom has been transformed. single, dedicated pathways for physical and mental health, health care in our nhs, backed up health care in our nhs, backed “p by health care in our nhs, backed up by millions of pounds of long term funding specific programmes reaching vulnerable veterans in the criminal justice system to a compassionate but really aggressive approach to ending the stain of veterans homelessness in the united kingdom. this year, many governments around the world have tried that. many have tried that. but we are actually going to end rough sleeping because of a lack of provision in our

veterans by this christmas under a conservative government . a conservative government. and finally, the totemic scourge on the lives of our extraordinary people who served in northern ireland has been removed . the hounding of these removed. the hounding of these special people who stood against terror and violence in northern ireland on our behalf was appalling . it was a stain on our appalling. it was a stain on our nation, not just on the veterans community, but the nation as a whole. the sight of these men being arrested in their 80s dragged back to belfast, hounded literally to death . it was literally to death. it was a totemic symptom of a nation's moral ambivalence to those who

serve . to end that was about serve. to end that was about hard choices , right? it was hard choices, right? it was about principles . it was about about principles. it was about honesty , about what could be honesty, about what could be achieved in that space. it talks about who we are as a party, who the prime minister is as a man . the prime minister is as a man. his character , what he believes his character, what he believes in. it's about values . and with in. it's about values. and with the northern ireland legacy act, we have now achieved that change. i pay tribute to chris and the northern ireland office of course, but mostly i pay tribute to the unstinting . tribute to the unstinting. bravery, patriotism and courage of that generation of veterans who served in northern ireland. i know you have not always felt it, but your sacrifices brought the peace that we have today in the peace that we have today in the united and are the united kingdom. and we are unequivocal in admiration unequivocal in our admiration and respect .

and total respect. for your service. and i hope you can begin to feel that now for yourselves as well . i stand before you as perhaps the one time fiercest critic in this space, but acknowledging we have further to go. i can honestly tell you the veterans care in the united kingdom has. never been better because of a conservative government . okay? conservative government. okay? these are the things a conservative government can do. long term decisions for a

brighter future . labour don't brighter future. labour don't even have a veterans minister in their shadow cabinet. they've already said they'll repeal the northern ireland bill. i've just been. talking about. they have no plans for an office for veterans affairs because to do this stuff you actually have to believe in something, right? and if we know anything at all, it's a keir starmer believes in nothing he will nothing at all, right? he will bend highest bidder . bend to the highest bidder. first bit of rough water. he's going to bail out. okay. and contrast this with rishi voting for brexit. despite being told it was ended, his career creating a world leading furlough scheme throughout the pandemic, taking .

pandemic, taking. a leadership role in our approach to net zero with working families and working families at the heart of it. because he's in it to serve. i know him. i know that central in his mind are the working families of this nation who drive this nation . drive this nation. who serve in the armed forces , who drive the the armed forces, who drive the economy and frankly, deserve better than they've had from westminster . and the british westminster. and the british people deserve that. they deserve that leadership. we must not consign them to years of a feeble labour government. they . feeble labour government. they. don't want and doesn't believe in anything at all. we must hang together in the months ahead. this this is the vital piece we must hang together . now is the

must hang together. now is the time focus , a focus on our time for focus, a focus on our nafion time for focus, a focus on our nation , on mission nation, on the mission above ourselves . ourselves. ourselves. because ourselves. because if we do that, i'm convinced we can get there. let's get to it . what is she change? >> she is saving 12 million jobs at the height of a global pandemic. >> today i can announce it for the first time in our history, the first time in our history, the government step the government is going to step in and help to people's in and help to pay people's wages .

wages. changes. fixing the northern ireland protocol. >> after years of arguments. >> after years of arguments. >> rishi sunak hail a decisive breakthrough on great britain's trade arrangements with northern ireland change challenging ireland change is challenging the quo. the status quo. >> , we're expecting his >> well, we're expecting his wife . wife. to >> so they're watching. they're getting a video now showing richie's greatest hits. do you think that'd be quite a short video, you? his video, wouldn't you? his greatest they're video, wouldn't you? his greates about they're video, wouldn't you? his greates about boats. . video, wouldn't you? his greatesabout boats. they're talking about the boats. they're talking about the boats. they're talking . talking about. various things he's done snazzy music to going with it. he's with police officers. this is classic, isn't it? >> referring a lot to his time dunng >> referring a lot to his time during covid and the tories see

this as when he was the most popular in popular politician in the country. free country. he was everyone free money. we're money. now, of course, we're seeing consequences seeing some of the consequences of that money as of printing all of that money as we've over the last year or we've seen over the last year or so. but they do refer consistently this. rishi consistently to this. and rishi sunakin consistently to this. and rishi sunak in his interviews this consistently to this. and rishi sunak he his interviews this consistently to this. and rishi sunak he his int(toiews this consistently to this. and rishi sunak he his int(to our. this consistently to this. and rishi sunak he his int(to our very own week, he said it to our very own chris yesterday on gb news. chris hope yesterday on gb news. you here. you saw me as chancellor here. we are, see me as his wife coming stage now. we are, see me as his wife coming is stage now. we are, see me as his wife coming is unprecedented >> this is unprecedented for a tory minister partner to tory prime minister partner to introduce she introduce him on stage here. she is fabulous. is looking fabulous. this is satyamurti, the daughter of a billionaire, one of india's richest she's to richest men. she's going to speak and never her speak. and i've never heard her voice let's speak. and i've never heard her voice a let's speak. and i've never heard her voice a listen let's speak. and i've never heard her voicea listen . let's speak. and i've never heard her voicea listen . good let's speak. and i've never heard her voicea listen . good morning . and have a listen. good morning. and thank you . thank you. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> well, i just got away with good morning. or almost good afternoon. but yes, you're absolutely right. i'm not on the agenda for today. a bit of a surprise shall we say surprise addition, shall we say , my husband , and a surprise for my husband to who has no idea to what i'm going to say when i told our lovely girls, krishna and anushka, about being here today , also surprised , they were also quite surprised . look, reason why i'm . but look, the reason why i'm here really quite simple . and here is really quite simple. and it's because and i are it's because rishi and i are each best friends . we're

each other's best friends. we're one team and i could not imagine being anywhere else but here today with all of you to show my support to him and to the . support to him and to the. party now , as you'd expect, there's now, as you'd expect, there's been a lot about rishi in the media about who he is, what he likes , what he doesn't like, likes, what he doesn't like, what motivates him and so forth. now some of is accurate. i'm now some of it is accurate. i'm afraid. he does love a good rom com. the better. com. the cheesier the better. even and some it is not so even and some of it is not so true. so you'll be relieved to hear that episodes of in hear that episodes of emily in paris hear that episodes of emily in pans not hear that episodes of emily in paris not informing paris are not informing his outlook eu . but in all outlook on the eu. but in all seriousness, though, as we gather here today to look to the future of the i'm so future of the uk, i'm so grateful to have this chance to talk to all you about the man talk to all of you about the man who leading there . now, who is leading us there. now, let me start with one word that sums husband, that is

sums up my husband, and that is aspiration. aspiration runs through his dna it does through his dna like it does this party's aspiration is what drove many years ago drove his family many years ago to move to the uk. an aspiration is what drives rishi to build for a better country and a better life for our young better life for all our young people fonnard to. rishi people to look fonnard to. rishi and i met when we were 24, when we were both studying abroad in america from the very america to right from the very beginning struck by two beginning i was struck by two things him no, not his things about him no, not his smart suits love for smart suits or his love for hoodies. he he actually didn't own but to own either back then. but to much more important things was his deep love for his home. the united kingdom and his sincere desire to ensure as many people as possible have chance to as possible have a chance to have opportunities. he was have the opportunities. he was lucky have it lucky enough to have had it completely him at the completely energised him at the time. i wondered if this passion was just youthful optimism. today, youthful today, i'm not sure. youthful optimism still optimism is a term you can still use about man 40s , but use about a man in his 40s, but rishi's energy and passion for use about a man in his 40s, but risifuturezrgy and passion for use about a man in his 40s, but risifuture ofy and passion for use about a man in his 40s, but risifuture of this:i passion for use about a man in his 40s, but risifuture of this countryn for use about a man in his 40s, but risifuture of this country arer the future of this country are as strong as ever. that is why he lifelong he has been a lifelong conservative. he conservative. that is why he entered politics almost decade entered politics almost a decade ago it is ago now. and that is why it is the greatest honour imaginable for minister for him to be prime minister leading the country and the

party he loves . party he loves. as i said earlier , getting as i said earlier, getting together with rishi almost 20 years ago was not the easy route it meant in our early days together, a complicated and long distance relationship . but let distance relationship. but let me tell you, on the other hand , me tell you, on the other hand, being with rishi was the easiest decision of my life . he's fun , decision of my life. he's fun, he's thoughtful. he's compassionate, and he has an incredible zest for life . but incredible zest for life. but what drew me to him most was his strength of character , his strength of character, his honesty, his integrity with a firm understanding of right from wrong. it's what i'm still drawn to, even today, after 14 years

of being married . and as you may of being married. and as you may know, rishi is the son of a gp and a pharmacist at his parents moved to the uk from east africa with very little, but they built here a life for themselves and for their children . for rishi's for their children. for rishi's dad being involved in his patients lives beyond the doctor's surgery was a big part of how he saw his role for rishi's mum trained as a pharmacist and years later, after saving enough to open her own shop, she too went above and beyond the call of duty to build deep rooted relationships with her customers. it meant rishi and his younger brother and sister grew up in a house hold entrenched in their community in southampton , and there were southampton, and there were wholly devoted to it that love of community grew in rishi too, from a very young age as the most natural extension of how he

sees hope. and that connection with people is the source of his political life . rishi cares political life. rishi cares deeply about his party and the values that underpin it. i would like to take this opportunity to thank you all for the support you've already shown him and for the warm welcome you've given our young family. the warm welcome you've given our young family . please know our young family. please know that rishi is working hard to do the right thing for the country , not just for now , but for the , not just for now, but for the long term . with honesty and with long term. with honesty and with integrity . that is why he has integrity. that is why he has told some hard truths already . told some hard truths already. me and knowing him, he'll continue to do so . he shares continue to do so. he shares your values and he knows how much you care about the future of the uk. but also about the struggles and the challenges that people are facing today and the potential we all see in a

better tomorrow . not just for better tomorrow. not just for a few, but for everyone in our country . just as with our girls, country. just as with our girls, he wants the next generation to grow up in a country that offers them opportunity and hope. a country that helps them build rock solid foundations with a deep respect for hard work and the confidence to fulfil their potential and a love for community in all its forms. sometimes when the going gets tough , i remind rishi that he's tough, i remind rishi that he's fighting for his values , that fighting for his values, that he's fighting for this party's values. knowing that it's a hard road ahead . but success is hard road ahead. but success is hard won. rishi you know this. you know that doing the right thing for the long term, even when it's hard, is the right thing to do. and i hope you also know