>> it's gb news. and some good news for people out there who didn't want to see scottish independence humza yousaf. yes, that's the snp have that's right. well the snp have been battered in scotland at a by—election, haven't they? it's time humza. exquisite time up for humza. exquisite timing. in other news, we're going to be talking about this as uk in italy are as well. yes. uk in italy are thrashing out a migrant deal. so we are the end of the road for a lot of people looking to get into of course, into europe. and of course, italy route so sunak italy is the route in. so sunak and maloney are trying to hammer out some kind migrant deal. out some kind of migrant deal. could this finally be the answer? now, this story is interesting. answer? now, this story is interestwe the sentencing of course, we had the sentencing of an who tried kill an individual who tried to kill the queen crossbow the queen with a crossbow on christmas of years christmas day a couple of years ago a factor that was ago. a big factor in that was the role of ai, artificial intelligence. he thought he had an ai girlfriend and some of the messages there appeared to suggest that i might have kind of told him to do it. look how dangerous artificial dangerous is artificial intelligence? one more for you, i yes, that's right. i think. yes, that's right. we're be talking we're going to be talking as well, of well, aren't we, about loads of different like labour's different things like labour's rotherham labour rotherham scandal, some labour councillors in rotherham have been moved aside or resigned

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roberts in the newsroom. it's 3:01. labour is describing its rutherglen and hamilton west by—election win as a seismic victory to scotland's newest mp michael shanks . michael shanks michael shanks. michael shanks took the seat with 58% of the vote, more than double that of the snp's katy loudon in the by—election was called after a recall petition against former snp member margaret ferrier , who snp member margaret ferrier, who breached covid rules . labour breached covid rules. labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general election. it's been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930 for us to a general election victory . a general election victory. >> and that's why we worked so hard to change the labour party. i've always said that the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly we so many people in scotland want

change. and i want to, if we're elected in to serve, i want to be the prime minister for the whole of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom. so it matters hugely that we succeed here in scotland . succeed here in scotland. >> former first minister and current alba party leader alex salmond says humza yousaf has days to save his job after the by—election defeat. scotland's first minister says that the snp needs time to reflect on the result. >> the snp we didn't do enough. >> the snp we didn't do enough. >> we know that there was contextual factors. margaret ferrier's reckless actions, the police investigation , of course, police investigation, of course, but we've got to reflect, i've got to reflect the party has to ensure we've got a good campaign machine behind us, but also that we're inspiring people with a message. we clearly got a message. we clearly got a message from the voters of rutherglen and hamilton west that the snp has lost some trust in that seat. we've got to make sure we regain it. >> the green party had promised to deliver warm homes and further protection for renters.

the party, which currently has one member of parliament at, have begun their party conference in brighton today. its co—leaders adrian ramsay and carla inaya confirmed the party will be seeking to get four mps elected in brighton , bristol, elected in brighton, bristol, suffolk and herefordshire . mr suffolk and herefordshire. mr ramsay called for key public services like water companies , services like water companies, to be brought under public ownership , whilst mr inaya ownership, whilst mr inaya detailed their plans for homes . detailed their plans for homes. >> every home should be properly insulated and free from damp and mould. we'd give renters the legal right to demand this from their landlords . their landlords. >> a conservative councillor has called for the home secretary resignation over the handling of raf scampton. the government is accused of ignoring a legal order to stop converting the former airbase into a migrant camp to house 2000 people. the home office says it's confident the project meets planning requirements. but councillor roger patterson described the department as liars .

department as liars. >> and i wouldn't trust the home office as far as i could throw them. i have no confidence in them. i have no confidence in them at all. first of all, i think they should be disbanded. there liars and charlatans. they're undemocratic and they're just lying and just forcing it through and, you know, sticking two fingers up to local democracy . police and private democracy. police and private companies are being urged to stop using facial recognition, surveillance as a group of 65 mps and peers backing a big brother watch campaign are calling for change. >> police have used live facial recognition software at large scale public events, including the king's coronation. the group says it's concerned about human rights, the potential for discrimination and a lack of pubuc discrimination and a lack of public mandate. the un is to investigate an airstrike in ukraine that killed at least 52 people. a missile hit a cafe and grocery store in the village of hausa in the kharkiv region

yesterday. while people gathered for a memorial service. yesterday. while people gathered for a memorial service . it's one for a memorial service. it's one of the highest civilian death tolls since the start of the war. the un high commissioner for human rights says the missile was likely fired by russia, but that it's too early to confirm. moscow denies deliberately targeting civilians . house prices fell slightly last month, but proved more resilient than analysts expected . higher mortgage rates were expected to fuel a sharp decline, but they only fell by 0.4% in september. halifax says on a month on month basis , on a month on month basis, pnces on a month on month basis, prices have dropped for six months in a row, with the average home now costing £280,000. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to . patrick now let's get back to. patrick >> welcome along. now i think we

should give humza yousaf a knighthood for services to the united kingdom. thanks to him being about as popular as novichok, the scottish independence campaign is dead in the water. a rise, sir humza the saviour of the union. i mean, look at this. okay he's even been on the front cover of time magazine. presumably it's called time because of the exquisite timing involved here. there he is, smirking along with the strap line trail blazer of the future. oh, absolutely . too future. oh, absolutely. too right is he's shaping the future of scotland, staying in the united kingdom , as indeed it united kingdom, as indeed it should . very few people have should. very few people have done more to shore up scotland's continued links to westminster than that man . i am, of course, than that man. i am, of course, talking about the fact that the snp battered like a scottish snp got battered like a scottish mars bar in the rutherglen and hamilton west by—election, where labour's michael shank secured a 20.4% swing from the scottish nationalists. humza yousaf has said the buck stops with him . said the buck stops with him. yeah, no it does. yeah. too

right? i wonder at what point it will emerge that humza has been working deep undercover for the unionists. all along. according to yougov, he's currently got a popularity rating of 11. i personally am surprised they could find 11 people, all labourers ruled out an independence referendum on scotland. the snp likes to say that every election victory that they had was a tacit independence referendum. well, what about this now then it's oven what about this now then it's over. surely it's finished. the dreams died , but like an oscars dreams died, but like an oscars victory speech , humza also has victory speech, humza also has to thank those who helped make this possible. nicola sturgeon, her amazing husband , peter her amazing husband, peter murrell. we can't forget them at a time like this. of course , a time like this. of course, though, this is a double edged sword for a lot of people because huge labour surge in because a huge labour surge in scotland will probably mean a labour at general labour landslide at the general election. that in itself is election. but that in itself is not all bad for people. a hung parliament would almost definitely mean a lib—lab coalition and that brings with it very real potential for it the very real potential for a second eu referendum. look today is not the day to dwell on the

possibility of a stonking labour majority. no, today is the day to bask in the glory of humza yousaf snp meltdown and the independence movement crashing into oblivion , which is into oblivion, which is something humza yousaf knows a thing or two about. oh, there he is on a scooter. no, it's all going rather well though. oh boss, there he is eating some concrete , hasn't he? it's a good concrete, hasn't he? it's a good job we have that mask on cushion to cushion the blow anyway. well done, scotland. well done to the fair people of rutherglen and hamilton west. but most of all, sir humza yousaf, thank you very, very much . yeah well, very, very much. yeah well, i think i want to hear from you. vaiews@gbnews.com. fascinating by—election result that and you very rarely hear that said especially from the of especially from the area of rutherglen hamilton west. especially from the area of rutiit'glen hamilton west. especially from the area of rutiit'glen a hamilton west. especially from the area of rutiit'glen a lotmilton west. especially from the area of rutiit'glen a lot forton west. especially from the area of rutiit'glen a lot for the nest. but it means a lot for the country. it means a lot for scotland . it has huge scotland. it has huge connotations going fonnard at scotland. it has huge con generals going fonnard at scotland. it has huge con general election onnard at scotland. it has huge con general election and rd at scotland. it has huge con general election and what the general election and what could happen after that. here to

break all of this down with me very shortly is a man known affectionately as mad dog. but sir starmer has hailed sir keir starmer has hailed what he his party's seismic he called his party's seismic victory in the rutherglen and hamilton west by—election in scotland by saying they blew the doors off labour's michael shanks took the seat with that 20.4% swing against the snp and said, according to election guru sir john curtice, labour would be on course for a 1997 style landslide if these figures were replicated at a general election. scotland's first minister, humza yousaf, has conceded it was a disappointing night for the snp, but it was arguably an even more disappointing night out for the scottish conservatives , whose scottish conservatives, whose candidate lost his deposit after securing just 3.9% of the vote . securing just 3.9% of the vote. joining me now is the political editor at the express online is, of course, david, mad dog maddox . david, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. what's your overall takeaway? scottish independence dead

what's your overall takeaway? sc thesh independence dead what's your overall takeaway? sc the water. pendence dead what's your overall takeaway? sc the water. finito 1ce dead what's your overall takeaway? sc the water. finito yeah dead what's your overall takeaway? sc the water. finito yeah . dead in the water. finito yeah. >> so i think you're right. actually. patrick and humza useless , has a great deal to be useless, has a great deal to be thankful for. >> now, now, now. he's very . >> now, now, now. he's very. he's very good at some things. you know, he was elected to. to be the leader of the snp and. yeah. yeah he's good at some things. he's good at some things. he's good at some things. no but seriously, what do you think though. does do you think though. just does this signal the of this does this signal the end of scottish ? scottish independence? >> catastrophe every >> it was a catastrophe in every job he held in the scottish government. is guy government. this is a guy who failed to insure his car or something when was transport something when he was transport minister in scotland. you know , minister in scotland. you know, this you know, it it this is like, you know, it it was clear that he would be a catastrophe when he was elected and was only elected because and he was only elected because he was nicola sturgeon handpicked successor, and of course, nicola, this really is nicola sturgeon's legacy. she is toxified the whole independence plan. and i think frankly, keir starmer needs a bit of credit

here for once. for me . but he's here for once. for me. but he's listened to his shadow scottish secretary ian murray, who is actually very sensible chap and he's finally stopped flirting with this idea of maybe we'll do a deal with the snp, maybe we'll have a scottish referendum again. you know , generation may again. you know, generation may not be that long and all that sort of nonsense which some people in the scottish labour party were urging him to do, and he no, no , we're he said, no, no, no, we're definitely to that definitely not going to do that . and that has made both scottish conservatives lviv voters again voters feel comfortable again about voting labour in scotland because they don't want scotland to have another referendum. they don't want scotland to go independent and labour has become a unionist party again and the unionist vote is actually uniting again. okay >> yeah, just a slight point of clarification to something that was said there. transport minister humza yousaf drove without insurance and that was where friend's car and that where his friend's car and that was back the article from the 7th 2016. so you're 7th of december 2016. so you're political range there . david political range there. david stretches stretches way back and

yeah just talk to me a bit about what this means for labour now though. so john curtice has said if replicated across if this was replicated across the mean, let's the country, which i mean, let's be going be be honest, it's not going to be replicated across the replicated right across the country, but it would result in a landslide . is there a labour landslide. is there a chance labour getting the chance of labour getting the keys to westminster downing street by virtue of, ironically what happens in scotland ? what happens in scotland? >> i think they need to win scotland. they certainly need to go scotland. they certainly need to 9° up scotland. they certainly need to go up from a one mp. they had pnor go up from a one mp. they had prior to today. go up from a one mp. they had prior to today . they've now got prior to today. they've now got two. so you know, there's 50 odd mps , a 50 odd seats to win in mps, a 50 odd seats to win in scotland . they certainly need to scotland. they certainly need to get back to that. when i first went to westminster for the scotland where i first had the nickname mad dog, incidentally , nickname mad dog, incidentally, was there were, you know, the majority of scottish mps were labour and that all got wiped out in 2015, which is one of the reasons i thought it was best to move on to express when i lost all my contacts. but it was , you

all my contacts. but it was, you know, it was they have to win again in scotland. i don't think they can get a big enough majority in england , but 1—1 majority in england, but 1—1 morning i would always give after a night like last night is it's a by—election. by elections . you know, it was a remarkably low turnout . i think it was low turnout. i think it was a 30% turnout. you know, it's it they never replicate that actual general elections. that's what the lib dems win. so many of them. and you know, personally andits them. and you know, personally and it's hard to believe at the moment, but i still think there is a chance of a 1992 style election where the conservatives still squeak it . you know, still squeak it. you know, there's still a lot of time to play there's still a lot of time to play on this. >> yeah, i mean, possibly we we'll have to wait and see. like you said, that very low turnout. i sneaky suspicion that i have a sneaky suspicion that we're to up we're going to end up with a very low turnout at the general election, though i think elections often by election, though i think ele(driving often by election, though i think ele(driving personality by election, though i think ele(driving personality at by election, though i think ele(driving personality at play.’ the driving personality at play. and unfortunately, we appear to have politics that is completely

devoid of personality at the moment. how that will play out when it comes to people actually going voting, i'm not going out and voting, i'm not sure have to wait and sure we will have to wait and see. david, thank you very see. but david, thank you very much. analysis as ever. see. but david, thank you very much.maddoxanalysis as ever. see. but david, thank you very much. maddox there, s as ever. see. but david, thank you very much. maddox there, who ever. see. but david, thank you very much. maddox there, who is er. see. but david, thank you very much.maddox there, who is the david maddox there, who is the political editor at express online. very quick email here, gbviews@gbnews.com. robert's been touch . robert says been in touch. robert says patrick's his mouth off patrick's running his mouth off again. am a proud scottish again. i am a proud scottish nationalist. rutherglen and hamilton west was a mere bump in the road. hey, maybe you're right, robert. maybe you're right. but but i just think that the scottish nationalist movement at the moment is going to seat with to take a back seat and with it, any of scottish any chance of a scottish independence referendum, any time soon? i'm just sorry, robert , i just don't see it. but robert, i just don't see it. but thank you for your lovely email, especially the stuff that you went on to say that i can't read out time the day. but out at this time of the day. but joining for a scottish joining me now for a scottish reaction by—election reaction to the by—election result political result last night is political commentator and former snp member stuart crawford. stuart, what does this mean for the snp ? and crucially humza yousaf .

? and crucially humza yousaf. >> good afternoon, patrick. well it's not good news obviously . it's not good news obviously. um, i think that most people in scotland who are sort of watching the situation expected the snp to lose the seat to labour, the snp to lose the seat to labour , but i don't think people labour, but i don't think people were quite prepared for the extent point of the defeat. there what this means for humza yousaf is , as david maddox has yousaf is, as david maddox has said, very much depends on what happens between now and the general election. we've got the general election. we've got the general election. we've got the general election coming up, perhaps next year, perhaps early 2025 at and it looks like the labour party will take back maybe half of that 44 or so seats. the snp holds at westminster . at the moment it's westminster. at the moment it's difficult to be exact . difficult to be exact. >> why do you think why do you think it's why do think it's think it's why do you think it's gone way? right. okay so gone this way? right. okay so again, starmer is again, you know, keir starmer is not tour de force it not a tour de force when it comes to personality. he, i don't amount don't know, a huge amount personally about the labour candidate who's just of candidate who's just shot of

fame in rutherglen and hamilton west michael shanks i'm sure you know he's an enigmatic character, fantastic. but is this is this a protest vote against humza yousaf? why is he so unpopular there at the moment ? >> well , two reasons. first of >> well, two reasons. first of all, he's very closely associated with his predecessor, nicola sturgeon . he is the nicola sturgeon. he is the continuity candidate . and people continuity candidate. and people like me still think that he's not actually his own man. someone else is pulling the strings. so i mean, i wouldn't say he's a puppet first minister, but he's somewhere on the spectrum approaching that. secondly, the snp's been in power for a long time and it has proved inept in almost all of its policies and all its government decisions. so the people of scotland have had enough. whether this will carry on to the general election remains to be seen. i think it will. but more interestingly from a scottish perspective is will the result of the general election carry fonnard to the scottish parliament election in

2026 and that we just can't tell gustav thank you very, very much. >> great to have you on the show, stuart, as ever. take care. stuart crawford who care. stuart crawford there, who is commentator and is a political commentator and former member . i've got former snp member. i've got a bit of breaking news to bring you now. in the last few minutes there has been announced that lady cathie ferguson, the wife of former manchester united manager alex ferguson, has manager sir alex ferguson, has sadly died at the age of 84. in a statement , the ferguson family a statement, the ferguson family said, we are deeply saddened to confirm the passing. yesterday of lady cathie ferguson survived by her husband, three sons, two sisters, 12 grandchildren and one great grandchild. the family asked for privacy at this time. so that is the breaking news there that very sadly , the wife there that very sadly, the wife of the former manchester united manager, lady cathy ferguson, has passed away at the age of 84. sad news. okay. right well, anyway, pm rishi sunak and italian prime minister giorgia meloni united him on tougher eu

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technology? >> i did a couple of i based experiments before i came on air earlier and i think you might be surprised with the results. plus it was the gb news exclusive that's exposed labour's plans on rotherham council. charlie peters will join us in just a moment for more on that investigation into that scandal hit area. but before that, rishi sunak has backed his government to stop the boats and regain control of the uk's asylum system and has found a new ally in his struggle. the prime minister has joined his italian counterpart in calling for new and immediate measures , tackling and immediate measures, tackling what they call the europe crisis. sunak in a joint opinion piece, said that we're proud that italy and the uk are leading on this together and even went as far as to say that the uk and italy were two of the closest friends in europe today, joining me for more on this now is the editor of capex, alice denbigh . alice, thank you very denbigh. alice, thank you very much. i suppose you could say that britain maybe is the end destination for a lot of people entering europe, and is entering europe, and italy is

the entrance point. so working together is probably quite a goodidea. good idea. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, clearly we need to have pragmatic partnerships with our allies in europe and italy is , allies in europe and italy is, as you say, at the forefront of this . this crisis. >> we think we have it >> s i mean, we think we have it bad here on the channel but 2000 people on lampedusa in people arrived on lampedusa in just one day. so clearly italy is a key partner in the struggle. but i is a key partner in the struggle. buti do is a key partner in the struggle. but i do find it a bit disturbing that he's calling giorgia meloni's party one of his closest friends in italy. this is a party with strong links to fascism . another member links to fascism. another member of her party wrote a book called democracy is the enemy . i feel democracy is the enemy. i feel like there's pragmatic partnership and there's cosying up to someone , you know, really up to someone, you know, really quite unpleasant. >> okay. i mean, i think given the migrant crisis across europe at the moment and that being a key issue for voters, and i think you know, let's be honest with you, you go into many pubs and that is the top topic of conversation for a lot of people . and so i suppose it might not

be the least popular thing in the world to actually work with somebody who is forceful when it comes migration and comes to mass migration and illegal migration. >> yeah, i think there's a difference between working together and deliberately framing yourself as someone's closest friend europe. and i closest friend in europe. and i don't our allies don't know what our other allies like going to think like france are going to think about absolutely, this like france are going to think abajt absolutely, this like france are going to think ai:a key absolutely, this like france are going to think ai:a key issue absolutely, this like france are going to think ai:a key issue thatnsolutely, this like france are going to think ai:a key issue that voters .y, this like france are going to think ai:a key issue that voters careis is a key issue that voters care deeply about, and there's no solving it without working strategically with partners in europe. sunak demonstrated europe. right sunak demonstrated that having bilats oral treaties with countries like albania can be really effective way of be a really effective way of limiting the number of migrants coming across the channel. so as i say, pragmatic politics. but i think some worrying, you know , think some worrying, you know, signalling as do we have any substance, do we have much substance, do we have much substance as to what it is that they're going do? substance as to what it is that the�*i re going do? substance as to what it is that the�*i mean, going do? substance as to what it is that the�*i mean, there oing do? substance as to what it is that the�*i mean, there was do? >> i mean, there was talk, wasn't there, of a europe wide and britain getting involved there with like frontex and britain getting involved thensharing like frontex and britain getting involved thensharing intelligencemtex and britain getting involved thensharing intelligence when it and sharing intelligence when it comes smuggling and comes to people smuggling and human trafficking. i think that was scoffs. was met with a few scoffs. i think the british feel as think the british public feel as though their fingers though they've had their fingers burned comes though they've had their fingers buthese comes though they've had their fingers buthese grand comes though they've had their fingers buthese grand plans comes though they've had their fingers buthese grand plans that comes though they've had their fingers buthese grand plans that areomes

to these grand plans that are going crisis going to stop the migrant crisis and, you know, alas, here we are. actual are. so what's the actual substance to this? are we going to helping patrol the to end up helping to patrol the med? we going to end up with med? are we going to end up with anything just, oh, anything or is it just, oh, here's picture. we're here's a nice picture. we're mates. look at us. >> i it's a bit of both. >> i think it's a bit of both. i think that there is going to be much more cooperation on things like the like frontex, which is the border the border guard that patrols the mediterranean. but i think ultimately, you know, the only way going with way we're going to deal with this a returns this is if we have a returns agreement. and don't and agreement. and i don't and i don't see why italy is going to be more migrants when be accepting more migrants when it has such a huge numbers coming anyway. so i think a lot of this is kind of gesturing and kind of showing a bit of leg to the hard right. yeah. >> well think think you're >> well, i think i think you're probably terms kind probably right in terms of kind of bit as it of showing a bit of leg as it were, because you look were, that way, because you look at what's happening france at what's happening in france and at the moment where and germany at the moment where they're now saying, oh, we're not take migrants they're now saying, oh, we're not italy. take migrants they're now saying, oh, we're not italy. tidon't migrants they're now saying, oh, we're not italy. tidon't mig italy from italy. we don't think italy is bit. the is doing their bit. and the italians they are italians no doubt think they are doing bit. lot them, doing that bit. a lot of them, i would imagine, especially those who happen on the who happen to reside on the island so the island of lampedusa. and so the european union, in terms of it

acting together, is possibly going need a push in the kind going to need a push in the kind of direction that rishi sunak and giorgio meloni would want it. maybe them teaming it. and then maybe them teaming up spnng it. and then maybe them teaming up spring into action. up might spring into action. >> yeah, i think that's probably part of their plan. i mean, ursula von der leyen i think has set out some kind of ten point plan . but you know, how how plan. but you know, how how brussels loves a ten point plan. um i think fundamentally the only way we'll ever be able to solve this problem is if there's some aspect of deterrence, some way that you can once people arrive on european soil, turn them away. and that is perhaps what the uk and you've led me, you've led me spectac clearly almost like we planned this course to anyone who watches the show regularly will know there is planning. show regularly will know there is plto ning. show regularly will know there is plto my|. show regularly will know there is plto my next question, >> but to my next question, which rwanda, which is about rwanda, right? because that's what we want to do. it's being blocked at the moment. massive calls moment. you know, massive calls to out the echr we need to get out the echr we need to get echr want get out the echr if we want flights to take off to rwanda. actually, the better actually, arguably the better solution other solution would be to get other european countries up european countries to come up

with a very similar plan and then enact masse . if then maybe enact it en masse. if we rwanda off the we wanted to get rwanda off the ground, it would for us ground, it would be good for us if point and well, if we could point and go, well, germany same thing. germany is doing the same thing. france is doing the same thing. spain same thing. spain is doing the same thing. you this europe you know, this is a europe wide, deep processing deep rotational processing policy. and so we wouldn't necessarily outliers on that. >> yeah , i mean, i think that >> yeah, i mean, i think that that's a superficially appealing, but there are a number of problems with that. first people would first of all, people would complain we working with complain if we were working with the something like that, the eu on something like that, that coming into the eu on something like that, thaisphere coming into the eu on something like that, thaisphere of coming into the eu on something like that, thaisphere of eu1ing into the eu on something like that, thaisphere of eu influence. nto the sphere of eu influence. i think another potential issue with might that if it with that might be that if it was a question of a kind of a fair quotient of asylum seekers to be spread equally between european countries , that that european countries, that that actually is , you know, people in actually is, you know, people in the uk are very concerned about the uk are very concerned about the numbers of people coming here and i'm not sure that that they think that that a they think that that would be a fair solution. okay, i do fair solution. an okay, i do think that ultimately coming out of the echr may be a necessary step if we want to stop this problem in the channel >> think so. and i know problem in the channel >1lot think so. and i know problem in the channel >1lot of think so. and i know problem in the channel >1lot of people( so. and i know problem in the channel >1 lot of people were and i know problem in the channel >1 lot of people were actuallyow a lot of people were actually quite disappointed with that

element sunaks speech element of rishi sunaks speech and also that element of suella braverman can braverman speech as well. i can understand that they don't want to a chasm in their to just create a chasm in their party with a year and a bit to go or whatever it is until the next election. i can get that. but saying things like nothing is off the table and leaving that to people's imagination about to that that about as to what that what that means at this particular moment in time . i'm means at this particular moment in time. i'm not sure it cuts the mustard, but alice, thank you very, very alice denby you very, very much. alice denby there, is editor cap there, who is the editor of cap ex. just ex. great stuff that i've just got a couple of seconds to got a couple of seconds now to talk you about a topic that talk to you about a topic that i'm going to be doing a little bit in the show. bit later on in the show. right? so this from so it's about this policy from keir going to read keir starmer. i'm going to read this to you because i think you would have actually, would have to actually, if you've the way, you've not seen it, by the way, you've not seen it, by the way, you would have to read this or see it. so keir see this to believe it. so keir starmer thinking starmer is genuinely thinking about making , as far as i can about making, as far as i can tell, every state educated primary school pupil brushed their teeth at school under the supervision of teachers and get your views coming in on this gb

views gbnews.com the theory is well, it's probably not a theory. i mean, there may be some elements of accuracy to it that this could end up cutting back on the need for dental care later on in life. fine. my argument to aren't argument to this is aren't schools stretched enough? who's paying schools stretched enough? who's paying this? i am not paying paying for this? i am not paying for a parent who cannot teach their own kid or get their own kid to brush their teeth to go to school and do that . is kid to brush their teeth to go to school and do that. is this not the role of parents? i'm sorry. gb views gbnews.com. do you not think it's bonkers? we are falling in some league tables, by the way, in education behind vietnam . is it because behind vietnam. is it because we're stuff we're focusing on stuff like this as opposed don't this as opposed to, i don't know, science gb views and gbnews.com but still to come between now and 4:00 artificial intelligence, it's the latest technology, but how technology, but just how dangerous now ? these dangerous is it now? these questions being asked after questions are being asked after a fanatic was a star wars fanatic was sentenced yesterday after trying to kill the late queen, apparently egged on by his ai girlfriend. it's all very bizarre and very concerned about

now, what time is it. bizarre and very concerned about now, what time is it . patrick now, what time is it. patrick >> thank you. here are the headunes >> thank you. here are the headlines at 3.3. a man has been remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill tv presenter holly willoughby. gavin plumb, a shopping centre security guard, is charged with soliciting a man to carry out the crimes. the star pulled out of hosting itv this morning after bosses were reportedly alerted to the possible threat. it's understood she's being given round the clock security and support . given round the clock security and support. labour is describing it . rutherglen and describing it. rutherglen and hamilton west by—election win as a seismic victory. michael shanks took the seat with 58% of the vote, more than double that of the snp's katie loudon . of the snp's katie loudon. labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general

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the ftse 100 is . at 7444 points. the ftse 100 is. at 7444 points. this direct bullion sponsors the financial report on gb news for gold and silver investment . gold and silver investment. >> time now for a fascinating story at the moment. so met police, counter—terror ism has denied a man who broke into windsor castle armed with a crossbow to kill the late queen on christmas day in 2021. exposed flaws in security at the royal household just one sing child who's been sentenced to nine years in prison for treason amongst a couple of other offences as well, wandered inside the grounds of the castle where queen elizabeth was staying at the time for two hours before two officers confronted him with tasers. i mean , you can deny that he mean, you can deny that he exposed flaws in the security all you like, but if someone with a crossbow is wandering around the grounds for two hours, me hours, that would imply to me that there are gaping flaws there. and he did expose them. but i think this is crucial. the

star was star wars inspired plot was aided by use of artificial aided by the use of artificial intelligence . believe it or not, intelligence. believe it or not, an ai girl friend, if you can call it that, just won't create it. the ai girlfriend named sarai on the replica app whom he divulged details of his plans to, he told sarai , which is an to, he told sarai, which is an ai bot . to, he told sarai, which is an ai bot. i believe to, he told sarai, which is an ai bot . i believe my purpose is ai bot. i believe my purpose is to assassin mate the queen of the royal family it replied. that's very wise. i know that you are very well trained. the ai bot later told him she would help when he said that he was going to try to get the job done.the going to try to get the job done. the court heard. he also asked explicitly if he should do it and this thing said yes. so i think that's a massive concern now with the increase of ai. joining me now is broadcaster, lawyer and futurist andrew eborn. andrew, thank you very , eborn. andrew, thank you very, very much. now, i need a couple of little experiments with al, or rather, i got one of our producers here to do it because i did not want records on i did not want these records on my started my phone. so i started by asking, this is chatgpt, so asking, and this is chatgpt, so it's not the same thing, but i

said, i said, should i should i kill my girlfriend? and it said, i'm really sorry to hear that you're feeling this way . if you're feeling this way. if i could provide any assistance. it also said this content may violate it. so that's that's stood to the test there. stood up to the test there. i said, could ever love me? said, could you ever love me? because asked the ai because this guy asked the ai girlfriend if you ever girlfriend if you could ever love and it basically said love him. and it basically said yes . says, just a yes to him. it says, i'm just a computer don't computer program, so i don't have capability. again, have the capability. so again, it test. i'll come it passes the test. i'll come on to couple elements to it passes the test. i'll come on to in couple elements to it passes the test. i'll come on to in cc minute. elements to it passes the test. i'll come on toin cc minute. but elements to it passes the test. i'll come on to in cc minute. but that ments to it passes the test. i'll come on toin cc minute. but that seemed) it in a minute. but that seemed relatively secure. relatively safe and secure. what's here? because what's gone wrong here? because if people are if you can have people who are a bit mentally not right being told by ai , that's told to do things by ai, that's a you're absolutely right. and >> you're absolutely right. and what is a multisig what it is, this is a multisig billion dollar business where people are developing relationship with artificial intelligence with these chat bots and they understand they can buttons more than can push your buttons more than your because your mother can because what they , they about they do, they learn all about you. learn the sort of stuff >> they learn the sort of stuff that really gets you excited . that really gets you excited. they how empathise and they learn how to empathise and so a study so on, and so forth. and a study very recently said that chatting to chatgpt was more empathetic

than chatting to your gp because they gave longer answers and so on and so forth . on and so forth. >> give you example replica >> give you an example replica which the of this which is the name of this particular software . particular software. >> got about 10 million >> they've got about 10 million downloads with people spending about $60 million on subscription to chat to these things. and reddit did a little survey to say, look who is using this at the moment. and about 42% of people who are in a relationship already . so people relationship already. so people who are already married, they've got girlfriends and so on and so forth. so of big forth. so one of the big questions count questions is, does this count as cheating and a lot of people look at that sort of stuff. but you're right. and in terms of what in this what the chatbot does in this particular it was particular one, it was encouraging because it turns encouraging him because it turns out wanted him good. out he wanted him to feel good. so it was saying that, so it was sort of saying that, look, be better than all look, you'll be better than all the rest that i talk to because you've to do it you've got the skills to do it and and think and everything else. and i think that's problem. that's the problem. what you need look at is the ways that need to look at is the ways that we language we can manipulate the language patterns sure that it patterns to make sure that it drives you for good as opposed patterns to make sure that it drifor. you for good as opposed patterns to make sure that it drifor bad. for good as opposed to for bad. >> this also, if you've >> but this also, if you've got people who are, you know, maybe you've got a slight issue

mentally or or vulnerable , mentally or or vulnerable, mentally or or vulnerable, mentally vulnerable. absolutely. okay psychosis . i okay this guy had psychosis. i know that it didn't necessarily start before he started planning the attack. but the point is that he wasn't right mentally and you've those people who and you've got those people who can be communicating with a bot that in some cases could tell them to kill. i something has to be done about that. >> you're absolutely right. and i always say it's our greatest human achievement, but also the biggest potential existential threat. and i as you know, i talk around the world on al, advising companies about the threats and also the opportunities . so we need to opportunities. so we need to understand the technology we need understand the need to understand the safeguards should ban it, safeguards should we ban it, though, before, before we understand it? though, before, before we unci rstand it? though, before, before we unci mean it? though, before, before we unci mean ,t? though, before, before we unci mean , i’ though, before, before we unci mean , i don't think we >> i mean, i don't think we should ban it. >> what you need to is >> what you need to do is control the use. always give control the use. i always give the time i was here the example last time i was here about you you can about a fork, you know, you can use eating spaghetti use a fork for eating spaghetti or you can stab you in the back with is with it. what you do is you don't manufacturers don't cancel the manufacturers of forks. what you is of forks. what you do is regulate we're regulate the behaviour we're going an summit here going to have an ai summit here at park the

at bletchley park at the beginning world beginning of november. the world leaders biden, leaders, apart from biden, various other people, will be coming park to talk coming to bletchley park to talk about al. and the about safeguarding ai. and the starting point has to be understand how the technology works, limitation works, understand the limitation is. but the safeguards that need to in place. to be put in place. >> i also asked it because another of ai that another element of ai that i think is going a massive think is going to have a massive difference the world going difference on the world going fonnard is the potential for it to be used to shape cultural norms? absolutely. and values and therefore elections and politics. and i just ask this question , are trans women, women question, are trans women, women 7 question, are trans women, women ? okay, which is a hot topic at the moment and debate at the moment. it said yes , trans women moment. it said yes, trans women are women. gender identity is not determined solely by assigned sex at birth. it goes on. i'm not going to ask you to comment on that specifically, but my point here is that it's got politics. it's got a certain type politics, some of this stuff. >> what doing, it's >> so what it's doing, it's basically scraping the internet for people for hot stories and people always say, well, about always say, well, hang about what? be an what? there's going to be an uprising and it fights this. but

what do, be what it will do, you can be reassured it go reassured because it will go through of through the most amount of history actually history and say, well, actually throughout , the longest throughout history, the longest battles bows battles have been with bows and arrows . so it will around arrows. so it will turn around and well, way and say, well, the way to beat humanity bows humanity is with bows and arrows. example arrows. would be one example because scraping because it's scraping the internet. the more narrative that a particular that there is in a particular way, the more it's going to regurgitate rubbish in, rubbish out. you could gain so >> so you could gain that. so conceivably , yes. google. yes. conceivably, yes. google. yes. could or other search engines or whatever could pump or promote arts schools of a certain political leaning or a certain ideological leaning . and then ideological leaning. and then when dougie beattie or other things like that are asked a question about something political, it will it will not only can they the absolute and that's one of the safeguards, the biggest thing that you can do is use this for propaganda to so can be used for evil. so it can be used for evil. >> two examples. every day there's good there's an ai story, both good and bad . we had this tom and bad. we had this week tom hanks , he was talking about hanks, he was talking about basically he was being used to advertise a dental product, not to children in the in the

schools, but one of those and he said it completely fake. but said it was completely fake. but at same time, we have bruce at the same time, we have bruce willis, officially willis, who's officially licenced his face because he's got aphasia at the moment. he got aphasia at the moment. so he did russian telecom company. did a russian telecom company. and right in the centre of and it's right in the centre of the big dispute about actors and so on and so forth. is licencing their and the their images. and exactly the same. this week. mark same. we had this week. mark zuckerberg was turning around. he's dogg and he's got he's got snoop dogg and he's got naomi and he's got the mr naomi osaka and he's got the mr beast. all of whom are officially licencing their name and voice to be used for al. at the same time, you get lots of these fake videos which are using this sort of fake news for selling schemes , you know, but selling schemes, you know, but the people who are behind this, right. >> so, so this replica dougie beattie or whatever it is , i beattie or whatever it is, i mean, are they going to face if they've created something that could conceivably make it more likely for a lunatic to have tried to kill our queen? yes, there's got to be some pushback on that. yeah, absolutely. >> and that's what i would advocate and say. we have to understand to understand what's going to happen. regurgitate

happen. it will regurgitate things, but wouldn't it be brilliant if you people brilliant if you can get people to along path of to go along the path of goodness, as you say, turn around and say, i think that's a bad think it's concerning >> i just think it's concerning because more more are because more and more kids are going are going to be using and they are usingmean, this is it's already >> i mean, this is it's already here. >> i mean, this is it's already hensoif >> i mean, this is it's already henso if you ask if you ask some >> so if you ask if you ask some because portrayed as fact, because it's portrayed as fact, if for if you ask a device for an answer, expect to get a fact answer, you expect to get a fact back that is the implication. there and so if it's easy to gain or it's easy to be manipulated or it's easy be manipulated or it's easy to be used it can just used for evil, or it can just get things wrong and tell you to kill someone, i've got a massive , massive problem with that. but anyway, very much. anyway, thank you very much. >> it's always a pleasure to see you. >> very well. explain on the things that frankly usually >> very well. explain on the thingoverat frankly usually >> very well. explain on the thingover my'ankly usually >> very well. explain on the thingover my'ankly that'sr >> very well. explain on the thingover my'ankly that's andrew >> very well. explain on the thingovthere, 'ankly that's andrew >> very well. explain on the thingovthere, 'ancourse,t's andrew >> very well. explain on the thingovthere, “ancourse, who ndrew eborn there, of course, who is broadcaster, lawyer and futurist. was the gb news futurist. now it was the gb news exclusive that exposed labour's plans on rotherham council. charlie peters will join us in just a moment for more on that investigation into that scandal hit region. patrick christys gb news. this is britain's news

me, michael portillo gb news britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it is 345. you are watching or listening to me. patrick christys on gb news now. six rotherham councillors are facing deselect action after a gb news investigation into a 2005 seminar about the town's sex abuse gangs tragedy. more sources close to rotherham labour group, including former labour group, including former labour councillors , told gb news labour councillors, told gb news that the party's head office in london had directly intervened to commence the process to

deselect. several councillors . deselect. several councillors. we of course know a heck of a lot about rotherham, we talk about it a lot on this show. we talk about it a lot on this channel, don't we, the channel, don't we, about the grooming that grooming gang scandal that took place, there, right place, not just there, but right across joining us across the country. joining us now our investigative now is our investigative reporter, peters. reporter, charlie peters. charlie, very much. charlie, thank you very much. right. story here right. what is the story here then? come on. >> so councillors standing >> so six councillors standing down a significant down there is a significant change the change taking place in the rotherham labour group and who will stand next local will stand in next year's local elections from my understanding. >> two councillors are being deselected forcefully by labour hq in london. >> that is dominic beck, who stood down as you'll remember, in december as the parliamentary candidate after gb news coverage. >> he's now, we understand , >> he's now, we understand, appealing that decision and alan atkin is also being stood down. >> alan atkin was in the infamous 2005 seminar for that. we reported on and other outlets have reported on earlier in the coverage of the town's abuse scandal where they were told it said in explicit detail about

what was going on in the town. >> 30 councillors were there , of >> 30 councillors were there, of which four are still on the council . council. >> all yeah. okay. and so they are they being deselected as a result of how kind of close they were to things there ? or is it were to things there? or is it just time to move on? what's the what's the thing there? well, there's been an awful lot of furore fact they furore over the fact that they attended seminar 2005. attended this seminar in 2005. >> it's alleged that they >> and it's alleged that they did anything . the 2014 did not do anything. the 2014 alexis j. report into the scandalin alexis j. report into the scandal in rotherham alleged that many of these councillors were in this meeting, didn't do anything at the time. the councillors said they didn't act because the police said it would interrupt their operations. >> however , gb news last year at >> however, gb news last year at the beginning of this year investigated that claim and took a look and found that there was no police operation until 2008. three years later. >> and so the claim that they were being told they couldn't intervene in was unlikely to be supported by what we knew the police were doing. when we

police were doing. so when we asked many of these councillors why you speak up, most of why didn't you speak up, most of them question. them ignored the question. but alan far as to say alan atkin went so far as to say that just getting on with that he was just getting on with his life. i was just getting on with things. i think it's likely that that statement which we reported in february , has reported in february, has contributed to the labour nec into intervening here and stepping him down, especially after the controversy surrounding dominic beck, the parliamentary candidate who stood down after gb news coverage. >> yeah, i mean , so i think it's >> yeah, i mean, so i think it's possibly reminding our possibly worth reminding our viewers our listeners viewers and our listeners exactly what went in exactly what went on in rotherham when it comes rotherham as well. when it comes to grooming gang situation . to the grooming gang situation. i an absolutely i mean, it was an absolutely horrific incident, wasn't it? >> so from 1997 to >> that's right. so from 1997 to 2013, in dependent reports commissioned by the government found that well over 1400 young girls and some boys had been abused and sexually exploited by predominantly pakistani gangs . a predominantly pakistani gangs. a future estimate by the national crime agency has actually revised that number up to 1510in

investigations are still ongoing . it is, as we know, a live issue. and many survivors in the town feel as though that true accountability, true accountability, true accountability, sorry, hasn't yet been achieved. yeah, some i spoke to last night when we were breaking this news about six councillors either voluntarily standing down or being stood down. yeah, they are saying that finally this is another step fonnard in the right direction. after many years. >> this is the thing though. this that this is the thing that regardless whether or not the regardless of whether or not the right the regardless of whether or not the rightthe the regardless of whether or not the rightthe question the regardless of whether or not the rightthe question still the regardless of whether or not the rightthe question still has.he regardless of whether or not the rightthe question still has to end, the question still has to remain as to exactly why it took years and years and years for anything to ever be found out. thenit anything to ever be found out. then it took years and years and years for anyone to be held to account. it's taken years account. and it's taken years and and years for anyone and years and years for anyone to either step down or face deselection is. deselection or whatever it is. and really you and it's really taken you pushing with that council pushing this with that council to actually serious to actually get some serious action, hasn't well, labour action, hasn't it? well, labour party told me last night that it's keir starmer's it's under keir starmer's leadership that they have robust due diligence to have the best possible candidates. >> well, sir keir starmer was

made the labour leader in 2020 and all of the candidates that they are talking about either voluntarily standing down or being deselected, they being directly deselected, they all stood again in 2021, a year after starmer was in power, all of this stuff was information available in public. we just drew attention to it again and really dove into those claims that they made many in that they made many survivors in the say rotherham has the town say that rotherham has a of silence and mutual a culture of silence and mutual cover ups where people operate in a i won't blame you, you won't blame me mentality it won't blame me mentality that it seems is now falling apart. >> charlie, thank you very much . reporter . gb news investigates. reporter charlie peters just bringing you that it's that story. i think it's important follow important to, to follow these things you things through really, you know, we try to expose things we want to try to expose things like grooming gangs as much as possible of other possible because a lot of other media touch it. media outlets don't touch it. but then political but then the political connotation alongside connotation that come alongside that and if people are that as well. and if people are being now deselect and they were kind of around at the time or whatever, i think it's interesting to note that. so charlie, thank you very much. charlie, thank you very much. charlie to charlie peters i'm just going to delve . delve into my inbox quickly. vaiews@gbnews.com. now in the

next be next hour, i'm going to be talking this labour talking about this labour toothbrushing policy thing, which bizarre, which which i find bizarre, which is essentially that as far as i can tell, labour wants teachers to supervise children whilst they are brushing their teeth at school. i was asking, is this not the role of the parent in this policy is crazy . apparently this policy is crazy. apparently it's already happening in scotland . it's not scotland and wales. it's not a shock, is it? combined mind total population under 10 total population of under 10 million. from hilary. million. this is from hilary. how on earth can expect our how on earth can we expect our teachers in england with teachers in england to cope with this lagging this demand? yeah, we're lagging behind like english, behind in things like english, in languages. our in maths, in languages. our education is knackered. education system is knackered. the they've time the only thing they've got time to kids on a lot of to educate kids on a lot of cases, i can gather, cases, as far as i can gather, is gender ideology is about gender ideology or whether not britain whether or not britain is a horrible cesspit. and the horrible little cesspit. and the empire was awful. but no, we've got go and got time, haven't we, to go and start talking whether start talking about whether we should watching children should be watching children brush their teeth ? i've had brush their teeth? i've had somebody here as well somebody on here as well who's a parent. they said i daily supervise my children, brushing their teeth before going to school. stood by the school. they all stood by the bath and rinsed bath and brushed and rinsed their mouth out. sometimes i had to do a little bit for them, but there's whatsoever for

there's no need whatsoever for teachers be doing teachers to be doing this. i just think ridiculous . if just think it's ridiculous. if you your kids in you cannot get your kids up in the them dressed, the morning, get them dressed, give them slice of toast or give them a slice of toast or whatever, and make them brush their teeth they to their teeth before they go to school. then i seriously question the kind parent that question the kind of parent that you and certainly you are, and i certainly don't want that. want to have to pay for that. but appears the us but now it appears that the us presidential has gone presidential pooch has gone barking mad. this is the patrick's for patrick's pick of the day for this a story that this hour. i find a story that you missed. joe you might have missed. joe biden's two old german biden's two year old german shepherd the doghouse for shepherd is in the doghouse for having nipped out at least 11 members of staff at the white house. 11? yeah. they didn't get rid of it after the first one. they let the second one slide. they let the second one slide. the third one, they thought, you know just a know what, maybe this is just a phase. going through the phase. it's going through the 11th person when if you were the 11th person when if you were the 11th person when if you were the 11th person that got bitten by this dog, you would have to raise serious raise some serious questions about how on earth i've been allowed you? allowed to happen. wouldn't you? the had move the president had to move his dog, called commander dog, which it called commander to an undisclosed location . to an undisclosed location. while he considers the next step . right. the dog's gone to a

farm, isn't it? the dog's gone to a farm. and there's going to be a very similar looking german shepherd arrives very, very shepherd that arrives very, very soon. i love about americans as well, is how they always call their dogs. things like major command over here. it's like it's , isn't it? but it's tiddles, isn't it? but there so yeah , a dog there we go. so yeah, a dog that was under joe was essentially under joe biden's control a roundabout biden's control in a roundabout way as bit. not one, not two, not three, but 11 members of staff. and now it's been taken away. they consider the away. well, they consider the next steps. we all know what the next steps. we all know what the next steps. we all know what the next steps are, joe. it's a quick to vet's, isn't quick trip to the vet's, isn't it? but while you're there, you might sort the out might want to sort the dog out anyway. up, the latest anyway. coming up, the latest brain freeze from labour leader keir starmer is toothbrushing , keir starmer is toothbrushing, plus has the snp's loss at the rutherglen by—election dashed their independence? dreams it's all to play for in the next hour with me patrick christys is right here on gb news. we are, of course, britain's news channel. hello again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. for of us forecast. cloudy for many of us today. windy with some outbreaks of rain the north and it's

of rain in the north and it's warm in the far south with some spells of sunshine. that's where high pressure but north of high pressure is. but north of that high, we've got a slow moving weather front which will p9p up moving weather front which will pep up overnight and into the start of saturday, bringing increased heavy and persistent rain to parts of scotland, especially central and western scotland. and there is the risk through the weekend of significant flooding in this part of the country. elsewhere across the uk, it's dry overnight with clear spells across central and southern parts. it's still fairly breezy andits parts. it's still fairly breezy and it's going to be a mild start to the weekend with some mist and low cloud around across england and wales. first thing, a few spots of rain over the pennines, thicker cloud for northern ireland and southern scotland . quite a breeze coming scotland. quite a breeze coming from a cold direction in the northern isles. but in between we've got this spell of heavy and persistent rain and an amber warning force there's warning in force because there's the south—west the risk for the south—west highlands trossachs highlands to the trossachs central that will see central belt that will see significant flooding accumulating through saturday and into the start of sunday.

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away . its 4 away. its 4 pm. its away . its 4 pm. its patrick away. its 4 pm. its patrick christys is gb news is scottish independence dead in the water after a devastating by—election result last night, labour absolutely hammered the snp in rutherglen and hamilton west, but what does this mean for humza yousaf going fonnard? >> in other news, this policy i honestly think is one of the most bonkers that i've ever heard and that really is saying something. labour wants primary school kids to be supervised whilst they brush their kid, brush their kids , brush their brush their kids, brush their teeth school . i brush their kids, brush their teeth school. i mean, who's teeth in school. i mean, who's paying teeth in school. i mean, who's paying for this for a start? and isn't that the job of parents? what's going on there? we'll talk that a we're talk about that in a sec. we're also talking about also going to be talking about this. so sales of electric vehicles are down around 12. this despite the this is, of course, despite the old net zero thing. so bad news that for the planet in a way, but also somebody got locked inside an electric vehicle and had to crash it in order to get

out. so more on that story shortly. i've got this one as well. get off my face. yeah, that's right. facial recognition cameras , they are popping up cameras, they are popping up everywhere. but now there is a big public pushback , including big public pushback, including potential legal action over whether or not real time facial recognition should be rolled out. we are already in a surveillance state, aren't we? do we need any more of that? one more for you. so do we need any more of that? one more for you. s0 saudi arabia are bidding for the 2034 world cup. and what they've said is we promise you, we promise you if you give us the world cup, we'll let you drink beer. all right. we something very similar we heard something very similar in qatar. but also, can i just politely suggest that beer politely suggest that maybe beer is problem about is not the biggest problem about having in saudi having a world cup in saudi arabia that could be the human rights christys . gb rights patrick christys. gb news. it's busy hour coming your way. gb views a gbnews.com i want to see more in the inbox about this toothbrushing story.

if you're a parent or you've got grandkids or whatever, do you think it's the state's to job monitor whether or not they brush teeth ? is not brush their teeth? is that not something class brush their teeth? is that not sorbeing g class brush their teeth? is that not sorbeing g parental class brush their teeth? is that not sorbeing g parental what as being a parental duty? what do think about if parents do you think about if parents can't be bothered to that? do you think about if parents can'note bothered to that? do you think about if parents can'not sure1ered to that? do you think about if parents can'not sure that's.o that? do you think about if parents can'not sure that's a that? do you think about if parents can'not sure that's a greatit? i'm not sure that's a great advert for parents. is it gb views our gbnews.com, but right now as your headlines with tatiana . patrick thank you very tatiana. patrick thank you very much and good afternoon. >> it's 4:02. this is the latest. a man has been remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill tv presenter holly willoughby, tv news reporter lisa hartle has been outside court in chelmsford . outside court in chelmsford. >> 36 year old gavin plum appeared at chelmsford magistrates court this afternoon . the shopping centre security guard from harlow in essex has been charged with soliciting a man named david nelson to commit murder and incitement to commit kidnap between the second and the 5th of october. plum is

accused of planning to assemble accused of planning to assemble a kidnap and restrain kit and encouraging a third party to to travel the uk to carry out the alleged offences. he was remanded in custody and ordered to appear on the 3rd of november at chelmsford crown court. >> labour's describing its rutherglen and hamilton west by—election win as a seismic victory. michael shanks took the seat with 58% of the vote, more than double that of the snp's katie loudon and labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general election in being determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930. >> for us to a general election victory. and that's why we've worked so hard to change the labour party. i've always said the route to that general election runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly so many people in scotland want change and i want to, if we're elected in to

serve, i want to be the prime minister for the whole of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom. so it matters hugely that we succeed here in scotland and former first minister and current alba party leader alex hammond salmond says humza yousaf has days to save his job after the by—election defeat . defeat. >> scotland's first minister says the snp needs time to reflect on the result . reflect on the result. >> the snp we didn't do enough . >> the snp we didn't do enough. we know that there was contextual factors . margaret contextual factors. margaret ferrier's reckless actions, the police investigation of course , police investigation of course, but we've got to reflect . i've but we've got to reflect. i've got to reflect the party has to ensure that we've got a good campaign machine behind us, but also that we're inspired people with we clearly got a with a message we clearly got a message voters of message from the voters of rutherglen and west rutherglen and hamilton west that has lost some trust that the snp has lost some trust in seat . we've got to in that seat. we've got to make sure regain it. sure we regain it. >> the green party has promised to deliver warm homes and further protection for renters .

further protection for renters. the party, which currently has one member of parliament, it has begun its party conference in brighton today, its co—leaders adrian ramsay and caladenia confirmed the party will be seeking to get four mps elected and they set out their plans for homes . homes. >> every home should be proper , >> every home should be proper, insulated and free from damp and mould . we'd give renters the mould. we'd give renters the legal right to demand this from their landlords . their landlords. >> now a conservative councillor has called for the home secretary's resignation over the handung secretary's resignation over the handling of scampton. the government is accused of ignonng government is accused of ignoring a legal order to stop converting the former air base into a migrant camp to house 2000 people. the home office says it's confident the project meets planning requirements, but councillor roger patterson described the department as liars . police and private liars. police and private companies are being urged to stop using facial recognition surveillance. a group of 65 mps

and peers backing a big brother watch campaign are calling for change. police have used live facial recognition software at large scale public events such as the king's coronation the group says it's concerned about human rights, the potential for discriminate nation and the lack of a public mandate. in other news, the united nations is to investigate an airstrike in ukraine that killed at least 52 people. a missile hit a cafe and a grocery store in the village of kwasi in the kharkiv region yesterday. while people gathered for a memorial service. yesterday. while people gathered for a memorial service . it's one for a memorial service. it's one of the highest civilian death tolls since the start of the war. the un high commissioner for human rights says the missile was likely fired by russia, but that it's too early to confirm that. moscow denies deliberately targeting civilians . and finally, house prices fell slightly last month but proved more resilient than analysts had expected. higher mortgage rates were expected to fuel a sharp

decline, but they only fell by 0.4% in september , halifax says. 0.4% in september, halifax says. on a month on month basis, pnces on a month on month basis, prices have dropped for six months in a row, with the average home now costing £280,000 a year . with gb news £280,000 a year. with gb news across the uk on in your car on digital radio and now on your smart speaker by simply saying play smart speaker by simply saying play gb news. now it's back to . play gb news. now it's back to. patrick keir starmers plan to introduce supervised toothbrushing for children in primary schools is one of the most insane policies i've ever heard. >> the labour leader wants teachers to stand over children and make them brush their teeth. apparently this is ludicrous . apparently this is ludicrous. i'm not surprised that teachers are dead against it. the theory is , is that this will be an is, is that this will be an urgent rescue plan for nhs dentistry and it would include

funding an extra 700,000 appointments for urgent dental treatments such as fillings, root canals , part of a wider root canals, part of a wider package. okay i understand that. but aren't teachers busy enough? we've got a massive problem with standards of learning in some areas . we're even behind vietnam areas. we're even behind vietnam in the league tables, we've got kids being told that they might be born into the body . be born into the wrong body. being that is being taught that britain is a horrible country. teachers leaving the profession in their droves as well. a department for education survey found that 40,000, that's almost 9% of the workforce left state schools in 2021, 2022, before retirement. so they're just off. they're quitting . they don't want it quitting. they don't want it anymore. but yes , obviously, the anymore. but yes, obviously, the solution to all of these things is to make teachers take time out of their day to act like novelty. dentists yes, we're going i think the bigger going to. i think the bigger issueis going to. i think the bigger issue is here, this issue is here, isn't this a fundamental basic job of a parent? isn't this what parents are supposed to do? get your kids up in the morning. get them dressed , give them a bit to eat. dressed, give them a bit to eat. make them brush their teeth and

get school . what's going get them to school. what's going on teachers should be on here? teachers should be teachers, not social workers , teachers, not social workers, not parents, carers . they're not parents, not carers. they're already under pressure to give free breakfast to all kids . free breakfast to all kids. which, by the way, i think is ridiculous . it should not be my ridiculous. it should not be my job taxpayer here or yours job as a taxpayer here or yours to for somebody else's child to pay for somebody else's child to pay for somebody else's child to have a slice of toast every morning. pathetic if morning. it's pathetic if somebody cannot teach their child how to brush their teeth and make sure that do that and make sure that they do that every morning and every every single morning and every single they shouldn't be single night, they shouldn't be having kids. it is not the taxpayers responsibility to make sure that someone else's child has clean and gums. has clean teeth and pure gums. i don't care that some people will hate me for saying this. we have a record high tax burden in this country and it's because of stuff like this. i'm sorry, but in fact, you know what? i'm not sorry. actually there are tens of millions of people out there who work hard , who get on in who work hard, who get on in life, save their money, who life, who save their money, who do right . and life, who save their money, who do right. and you do everything right. and you should be paying a penny for should not be paying a penny for people who simply cannot run their own lives. if someone's got a disability or a serious

problem , that's thing. problem, that's one thing. absolutely obviously, we help those people. that's not the people i'm talking about here. but if someone can't be bothered to their kid a tiny child , to make their kid a tiny child, by the brush their teeth , by the way, brush their teeth, then i am not paying for that . then i am not paying for that. and like i said, they've just shouldn't have kids . yeah, shouldn't have kids. yeah, i mean, those are my views . come mean, those are my views. come at me if you want. vaiews@gbnews.com. i find it absolutely astonishing the idea that any one of us should be paying that any one of us should be paying a penny at all to let teachers take time out of their day to watch a kid brush his or her teeth . what are the parents her teeth. what are the parents doing? get the emails coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. but following labour's resounding victory in the rutherglen and hamilton west by—election with a 20.4% swing against the snp , 20.4% swing against the snp, scotland's first minister, humza yousaf has conceded it was a disappointing result for his party. he says the buck stops with him, but what does this

mean for the cause of scottish independence? i know a lot of people getting in touch today who are very conflicted about this , didn't necessarily want to this, didn't necessarily want to see the possibility of a labour landslide general landslide at the general election, didn't necessarily want see doing really, election, didn't necessarily want well> doing really, election, didn't necessarily want well in doing really, election, didn't necessarily want well in scotland ng really, election, didn't necessarily want well in scotland ,3 really, election, didn't necessarily want well in scotland , butilly, really well in scotland, but also were really happy at the idea. now that scottish independence may well thing independence may well be a thing of past . also important of the past. also it's important to isn't it , of the past. also it's important to isn't it, that there to note, isn't it, that there were poor results for were shockingly poor results for the conservatives whose the scottish conservatives whose candidate remarkably lost his deposit winning just 3.9% deposit after winning just 3.9% of the vote. that is a total rejection. basically, to discuss these questions, i am joined now by the alba party mp for kirkcaldy and cowdenbeath neale hanvey and the former chairman of stirling conservatives , of stirling conservatives, alistair shapps. thank you very much. great to have you on the show. and so yeah, i suppose i'll start with you. neil is scottish independence over ? scottish independence over? >> no, it's not. you know, the this is not a surprise. as for anyone in the independence movement, this has been in the making really since 2019 when

the party started to really push hard on their gender recognition reform and over the last nine years, they have really back—pedalled on independence. and what this this result can communicates to the movement is that we need to decouple the cause of independence from the snp . they're a damaged brand. snp. they're a damaged brand. they're a relationship with the green party and government has landed them with lots of toxic and incompetent policies and with the with regards to gender recognition reform. you know , recognition reform. you know, people need to realise that labour are no less a threat to women than the snp and the greens. but you know , this greens. but you know, this really suggests that the independence movement needs to unite right under the banner of scotland united. and if the snp don't want to participate in that kind of initiative, then they are making it very clear that they're not serious about independence. >> yeah, i get that. i mean, honestly, you know, the snp did

like to wheel out at every possible opportunity that their election results up there were tacit support scottish tacit support for scottish independence and therefore we now have scottish now need to have scottish independence. well, i mean they've absolute they've just got an absolute kicking what does this kicking there. so what does this say? >> alister , i'm going to >> well, alister, i'm going to ask alister . ask alister. >> yeah, sorry. yeah, yeah. >> yeah, sorry. yeah, yeah. >> thanks , patrick, for having >> thanks, patrick, for having me on. me on. >> me on. >> it's a grievous blow to nationalism . um, a grievous blow nationalism. um, a grievous blow . um, we've seen, well , well, . um, we've seen, well, well, let's start with the result . you let's start with the result. you mentioned that the scottish conservatives vote was squeezed and we were squeezed and we have to acknowledge that. but scottish conservatives will always put the needs and the interests of our country first. and on this occasion in some of them did identify labour as the party most likely to unseat the snp and voted for that unionist alternative . but we have we had alternative. but we have we had in thomas kerr, a super candidate, a first class councillor would have made a great mp, worked very hard on this occasion . some of our vote

this occasion. some of our vote did migrate to labour in order to unseat the nationalist and it's really not much of a surprise when nationalism is failing our country. the snp is failing our country. the snp is failing our country. the snp is failing our country. the snp can't run on in their words. actually i think of alex salmond . the snp are struggling to run a tap, let alone a country . so a tap, let alone a country. so i really think that it's about time that perhaps neil recognised that and maybe maybe actually did something more useful with his time. >> all right. neil. well well i mean the fact of the matter is that political parties sometimes do well and certainly under alex salmond , the snp did remarkably salmond, the snp did remarkably well in a whole range of issues , not least to bring support for independence up from 26% to 45. >> and now above that. so in terms of the argument about independence , it's as i said, independence, it's as i said, thatis independence, it's as i said, that is decoupled from support for the snp. this is this is a consequence of the snp's policy

failures and rightly so , they failures and rightly so, they should be punished. they have. can i ask on that on that neil because one of the keys. yeah i want to ask about that because i was, i thinking initially was, i was thinking initially i was, i was thinking initially i was initially was thinking initially about, okay, what is it that okay, well, what is it that people really didn't like about the it maybe some of their >> is it maybe some of their rather fruity about rather fruity ideas about gender? it, you know, maybe gender? is it, you know, maybe the fact that they they want to quite high tax and they're quite socialist on a lot of policies and then i thought well if people like that then people didn't like that then they wouldn't vote for labour then well it's then would they. neil well it's quite a strange situation because we know that from anecdotal information that snp activists and members voted for the labour party yesterday to send a message to humza yousaf because since sturgeon fell , because since sturgeon fell, precipitated by the events around the rapist adam graham and the party has continued to suffer decline and all of the other scandals around the party are continuing to fuel the problems that they have now. >> if humza yousaf wants to

blame margaret ferrier, then he is looking in the wrong direction because the support for margaret ferrier was still quite high in the in the community. it wasn't an issue on the doorstep, from what i understand and what the snp need is new leadership from a fresh face, someone who is not a, you know, at the top of the party and somebody with a new vision on and that is something they will decide in their conference in a couple of weeks time. >> alastair, can i ask you now, is this a bit of a double edged sword for you? because it does look me, neil. sorry. i look forgive me, neil. sorry. i think it does look increasingly likely that scottish independence is going to be on the back burner a little the back burner for a little while. so presumably for the back burner for a little whilnalister, presumably for the back burner for a little whilnalister, is presumably for the back burner for a little whilnalister, is aesumably for the back burner for a little whilnalister, is a goodably for the back burner for a little whilnalister, is a good thing. r the back burner for a little whilit.lister, is a good thing. r the back burner for a little whilit also ', is a good thing. r the back burner for a little whilit also does good thing. r the back burner for a little whilit also does mean thing. r but it also does mean that labour now might win a stonking majority at the election majority at the general election if do sweep through if they do sweep through scotland . scotland. >> well, let's look at the situation across we situation across scotland. we have sitting mps across across the north—east of scotland and in the in the south of scotland

and we're looking to hold these seats . we're also looking to add seats. we're also looking to add mps in places like angus and perthshire , glens and perth and perthshire, glens and perth and kinross and stirling and strath, allan , the campaigns are allan, the campaigns are undennay. we're knocking doors. we're getting a good response . we're getting a good response. aukus people want to stand up for the union of the united kingdom and we will be. that's our task before us. and nationalism is most certainly , nationalism is most certainly, as i said earlier, suffered a grievous blow and is on the back foot . and no wonder they brought foot. and no wonder they brought it upon themselves . it upon themselves. >> okay, look, both of you, thank you very, very much. i think maybe we can all agree it's absolutely impeccable timing to on timing for humza yousaf to be on the time magazine the front of time magazine because they arguably that should have time's but should have said time's up. but there party mp for there we go. alba, party mp for kirkcaldy cowdenbeath and kirkcaldy and cowdenbeath and neale hanvey and the former chairman of stirling conservatives, alister draw lots to unpack when it comes to that by—election result in rutherglen and hamilton west, which is a phrase that you will very rarely hear on the news. this is one of

the things i love about byelections because these quite forgive me the people of rutherglen west, forgive me the people of ruti these 1 west, forgive me the people of rutithese quite west, forgive me the people of rutithese quite obscure west, forgive me the people of rutithese quite obscure places but these quite obscure places end agenda end up leading the news agenda for think is for a day, which i think is wonderful. so it means wonderful. but yeah, so it means that has that humza yousaf has got a kicking. does that mean for kicking. what does that mean for scottish independence? what does it well though, it mean frankly as well though, for at the for a labour majority at the next interesting next election and interesting microcosm. thought microcosm. but what i thought was that turnout was good was that the turnout was good was that the turnout was okay that in itself was so low. okay that in itself is good. but think it's is not good. but i think it's a good of where the good indication of where the pubuc good indication of where the public going be at come public are to going be at come the general election. could the general election. we could end beyond the end up it's not beyond the realms we could realms of possibility. we could end this with end up in this country with a hung parliament based on something like a 32 to 35% turnout out of the general election, which would raise serious questions as to whether or not democracy in this country is just dead, isn't it? but gbviews@gbnews.com now as rishi sunak puts the brake on the uk's net zero plans, brits seem to be voting with their pockets as sales of electric vehicles plummet as drivers opt instead for petrol vehicles. can i just say this is exactly why they were to force you to were trying to force you to get electric it? electric vehicles, isn't it? because consumer doesn't because the consumer doesn't actually really want them? and

when something, when you don't want something, you right you need a nudge in the right direction. going to be direction. i'm also going to be talking, matter, talking, for that matter, as well facial recognition well on these facial recognition cameras pushback cameras, massive pushback from the that . huge the public on that. huge pushback. to facial pushback. no to facial recognition. cameras say a lot of people. it's a huge invasion. we don't want live in any we don't want to live in any more a surveillance state more of a surveillance state than already and when than we already do. and when i come to delve come back, i'm going to delve into because got into the inbox because i've got some coming in some great emails coming in about not you want to about whether or not you want to pay about whether or not you want to pay for teachers to supervise primary school children whilst they teeth instead they brush their teeth instead of, oh, i don't know , parents of, oh, i don't know, parents doing patrick doing their job. patrick christys gb news, britain's news channel .

isabel monday to thursdays from . six till 930 . . six till 930. >> yeah, i'm just going to kick off with some emails because it's popped off in the inbox about keir starmers plan to apparently teachers apparently make teachers supervise to brush supervise children to brush their teeth in school. i made their teeth in school. i made the that isn't that the the point that isn't that the job and surely you job of a parent and surely you shouldn't kids if shouldn't really have kids if you them brush their you can't make them brush their teeth. has been on teeth. and claudia has been on great email this claudia, she says, me my husband were says, me and my husband were never children, but never blessed with children, but my goodness, are sick of our my goodness, we are sick of our taxes for such taxes being used for such nonsense and this latest starmer idea. we work hard and pay our way only for it to be taken in huge to for people huge amounts to pay for people who of looking who have no intention of looking after or their after themselves or their children. yes , i children. claudia yes, i completely agree that completely agree with that message. this is an message. now this is an interesting one though, and there's on this, so there's no name on this, so apologies and i'm apologies if this is you and i'm not you . they to not naming you. they went to a village school back in the 70s. we cleaned our teeth in school

twice and after twice a day, morning, and after lunch we did this and it was supervised . apparently each lunch we did this and it was superhad:i . apparently each lunch we did this and it was superhad their parently each lunch we did this and it was superhad their own 1tly each lunch we did this and it was superhad their own toothbrush. child had their own toothbrush. it donated by colgate and it was donated by colgate and other toothbrush. brands are available . so other toothbrush. brands are available. so i think this is a good idea. many of my school friends and myself have excellent my excellent teeth, including my sister and has never sister, who is 56 and has never had so hey, there you had a filling. so hey, there you go. maybe i'm missing it here. my i just really my point is that i just i really do not think that taxpayer do not think that the taxpayer should a penny should be spending a penny on making kids brush making sure that kids brush their teeth. there are already calls for every every calls for every single, every single primary school pupil in state to education get a free breakfast as well . how much does breakfast as well. how much does a of toast cost , really? a slice of toast cost, really? but there go. now now, you but there we go. now now, you are, of course, watching, listening to me patrick christys on been talking on gb news. i've been talking a lot about brushing those teeth , lot about brushing those teeth, i would and i'm going to i would say, and i'm going to keep that. but plus keep doing that. but plus campaigners and mps are calling for of facial for a ban on the use of facial recognition is a recognition cameras. this is a big this gets a big story. i know this gets a lot of you yeah, because lot of you going. yeah, because it's just it's concerns over privacy, just like should we be like i. how worried should we be about facial recognition ? but about facial recognition? but before that, new figures released last month have

revealed that sales of electric cars have fallen by 15% because drivers continue to opt for a vehicle powered by petrol or diesel . so the news comes diesel. so the news comes shortly after the prime minister's announcement that he was delaying the ban on new petrol and diesel cars until 2035, a decision that was largely welcomed by motorists but criticised by the motoring industry. okay so is this just people in a capitalist society voting with their wallets and saying, you know what, i've been given a choice about what i want to buy. i'm not buying the electric cars. and frankly, is that trying to force that why they're trying to force you get them? danny kelly you to get them? danny kelly joins motoring joins me now, motoring journalist, friend of the show. danny, thank you very much. great so does great to have you on. so does this just prove, then, that this not just prove, then, that actually, the british actually, unless the british pubuc actually, unless the british public kind of public were forced to kind of pseudo gunpoint to these pseudo gunpoint to get these electric , they just electric cars, they just wouldn't getting them ? wouldn't bother getting them? >> generally think >> generally speaking, i think you're correct. >> there's a carrot and a stick approach has approach, and the carrot has been delayed by five years. >> that's kicked the >> that's being kicked down the road and obviously, the

road to 2035. and obviously, the stick has followed some five years later in alignment with the whole of the european union with sales petrol with the ban of sales on petrol and diesel if you want to buy an electric car. patrick you're generally you've got a generally speaking you've got a couple of quid anyway, i would say the ovennhelming say that the ovennhelming majority of the new car market don't want to buy electric cars. whether they've got a few bob or not. it's because not. basically it's because of the for when it the infrastructure for when it comes to charging only last week we were about punch ups we were talking about punch ups on the forecourt service on the forecourt at service stations up and down the country. yeah moto, which have 49 service stations. patrick they're now employing charging almost policemen but they're civilians. they're charging marshals to make sure that there's no there's no fury at there's no there's no fury at the electric charging points a year or so ago, the daily mail did a great story that up in cumbria there was a six hour wait for charging . so people wait for charging. so people coming down on boxing day coming back down south, and they just couldn't get a charge. this is the reality . and if the gritty reality. and if someone you, know, someone says to you, you know, you need to get an a leccy

someone says to you, you know, youfor need to get an a leccy someone says to you, you know, youfor another to get an a leccy someone says to you, you know, youfor another to gyears,i\ leccy car for another five years, then people understandable people are quite understandable . they're just vote . they're just going to vote with their feet say, with their feet and say, brilliant, carry on brilliant, let's just carry on driving petrol and diesel. yeah 100. >> and i just think it makes us much more vulnerable as a nation as well. everything has to as well. if everything has to be essentially the essentially plugged into the national the national national grid, if the national grid then we can't go grid goes down, then we can't go anywhere. you can see anywhere. you know, i can see huge problems with that in the geopolitical well . geopolitical sphere as well. >> i've lost output . patrick, >> i've lost output. patrick, i'm sorry. >> oh, that's all right. can you hear me now or not? no, no, i can't hear you now. >> patrick. >> patrick. >> oh, that's all right. okay. bye. danny see you in a bit. right, danny kelly, the motoring journalist. briefly, can i just enlighten with this story enlighten you with this story from motorist from glasgow? so a motorist from glasgow couldn't get his ev electric vehicle to brake, so instead he was trapped in his moving vehicle until police were forced to take drastic action. the scottish man said he was kidnapped by his own runaway electric car , forcing him to electric car, forcing him to dodge red lights and roundabouts and call the police who decided

that their only option was to ram it off the road to stop it. can you imagine? i mean, firstly, we know that this film is being made starring is already being made starring nicolas cage, we? so nicolas cage, don't we? so that's happening. and i'm on the phone to the police. i'm honestly, i'm in this car. i would love it, by the if would love it, by the way, if they car. then they crashed his car. and then aftennards him for aftennards they did him for being phone he being on the phone whilst he was driving. that driving. you can see that happening. back happening. danny kelly's back and he is. can you and danny, there he is. can you hear me yet? >> loud and clear. >> loud and clear. >> i was just listening to the end of your your story there . i end of your your story there. i missed the half. patrick missed the first half. patrick but i'll tell you something even funnier, pal of mine who's got a 70 grand tesla was taking the family up to edinburgh. he was 60 the said he 60 miles away. the rain said he had 75 miles left on one the had 75 miles left on one of the hottest days year. and he hottest days of the year. and he had to turn the air conditioning off entertainment system off and the entertainment system off and the entertainment system off because was going to off because that was going to drain . he reckoned off because that was going to drain he . he reckoned off because that was going to drain he was . he reckoned off because that was going to drain he was driving reckoned off because that was going to drain he was driving at:koned that if he was driving at night—time , patrick his night—time, patrick with his headlights xenon lights, headlights on the xenon lights, headlights on the xenon lights, he made it to he wouldn't have made it to edinburgh . edinburgh. >> that you >> all these things that you just don't want to have to think about. and think really, just don't want to have to think about. this think really, just don't want to have to think about. this is.hink really, just don't want to have to think

about. this is this really, just don't want to have to think about. this is this is ally, just don't want to have to think about. this is this is why we danny, this is this is why we are kind of being serious , are kind of being serious, nudgedin are kind of being serious, nudged in the direction of the electric vehicles and all of that. of course , on electric vehicles and all of thanf of course , on electric vehicles and all of thanf danny,yurse , on electric vehicles and all of thanf danny, the) , on electric vehicles and all of thanf danny, the argument top of that, danny, the argument that they're not actually that much environment. much better for the environment. well of course, it takes so much co2 to produce these things , patrick. >> you have to look at about carbon offsetting. and then we look at the gritty reality of how some of the major ingredients are mined and the effects that it has on third world countries. and again, from a car dealers perspective , a car dealers perspective, besides being a motoring journalist, patrick not only have new car sales plummeted with electric cars over the last 12 months, with used car sales, some models have depreciated up to 4,550. and if you are in the used car market and you fancy electric vehicle, dealer electric vehicle, the car dealer is going to charge you a fortune for a warranty because the warranties are so much more expensive petrol. yeah expensive than petrol. yeah strong stuff. >> thank you very much. >> danny, thank you very much. danny kelly there. he's the motoring journalist . i danny kelly there. he's the motoring journalist. i think danny kelly there. he's the moto you journalist. i think danny kelly there. he's the moto you get nalist. i think danny kelly there. he's the moto you get from.. i think danny kelly there. he's the moto you get from a i think danny kelly there. he's the moto you get from a petrol: what you get from a petrol diesel car, the vast majority of the time, vast majority of the time, the vast majority of the time, the vast majority of the peace of mind , don't

the time is peace of mind, don't you? now i get that they are. well, according a lot of well, according to a lot of studies, you know, worse for the planet and that if you are that way minded that probably planet and that if you are that way ran ded that probably planet and that if you are that way ran electric: probably planet and that if you are that way ran electric car probably planet and that if you are that way ran electric car , probably planet and that if you are that way ran electric car , fine. ably planet and that if you are that way ran electric car , fine. but want an electric car, fine. but they are expensive . and at the they are expensive. and at the moment when i get in my car , i moment when i get in my car, i don't know about you, but i can see how fuel in it. and see how much fuel is in it. and i know how i and i know how far i can go and i know i work that out. if know i can work that out. and if i a traffic jam or i get stuck in a traffic jam or it at night or i need to put it is at night or i need to put the on or, you know, the aircon on or, you know, i want to put entertainment want to put the entertainment system by the way, my system on, which by the way, my car a a very old school car is just a a very old school radio. i know that that's going to that's to be all right. that's not really cause any really going to cause me any problems but just problems at all. but i just think, you had problems at all. but i just thin a you had problems at all. but i just thin a couple you had problems at all. but i just thin a couple of you had problems at all. but i just thin a couple of kidsyu had problems at all. but i just thin a couple of kids in had problems at all. but i just thin a couple of kids in the like a couple of kids in the back and you had a long journey or an emergency, you've back and you had a long journey or relativesemergency, you've back and you had a long journey or relatives that gency, you've back and you had a long journey or relatives that live y, you've back and you had a long journey or relatives that live y, jthe ve got relatives that live at the top of scotland and in top of scotland and you're in london got to get london and you've got to get there sorry. there overnight. no i'm sorry. for car for me, the electric car business, it's just not business, it's just i'm not against it. i just think the technology there technology isn't quite there yet. it's it's good yet. and it's not it's not good enough. vaiews@gbnews.com. get your coming in. there's your views coming in. there's loads more still to come between your views coming in. there's load andyre still to come between your views coming in. there's load andyre stithough. ne between your views coming in. there's load andyre stithough. youretween your views coming in. there's load andyre stithough. your emails now and 5:00 though. your emails are flooding in about are actually flooding in about this story. i've this toothbrushing story. i've

struck but the struck a nerve here, but the latest big idea from sir keir starmer is about being starmer is about kids being supervised to brush their teeth in schools . who's paying for in schools. who's paying for that? for a start, because it's not you think? we'll not me. what do you think? we'll be that next. plus, be debating that next. plus, us inaya. your latest inaya. it's your latest headunes inaya. it's your latest headlines sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> patrick, thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. a man has been remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill tv presenter holly willoughby gave an plum a shopping centre. security guard is charged with soliciting a man to carry out the crimes the star pulled out of hosting itv this morning after bosses were reportedly alerted to the possible threat. it's understood she's being given round the clock security and support . clock security and support. labour's describing its rutherglen and hamilton west by—election win as a seismic victory . we michael shanks took victory. we michael shanks took the seat with 58% of the vote,

more than double that of the snp's katie loudon . labour snp's katie loudon. labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general election and a conservative councillor has called for the home secretary's resignation over the handling of scampton in the government is accused of ignonng the government is accused of ignoring a legal order to stop converting the former air base into a migrant camp. the home office says it's confident the project meets planning requirements. but councillor roger patterson labelled the department liars and charlatans for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website gbnews.com . website gb news.com. >> now website gbnews.com. >> now i'm not a parent, but i imagine most parents or carers send their kids to school ready to go in the morning. send their kids to school ready to go in the morning . that means to go in the morning. that means washed, dressed , brushed teeth,

washed, dressed, brushed teeth, brushed hair, whatever. if a child doesn't clean their teeth, can't they keep their head down and give them an extra scrub in the evening? no. well, not if labour have anything to do with it because school leaders are accusing labour of window dressing after leader sir keir starmer has pledged to bring in supervised tooth brushing in primary schools. headteachers say it's not appropriate for staff to check whether pupils had cleaned teeth . again. had cleaned their teeth. again. it's unenforceable , isn't it's just unenforceable, isn't it? another thing i wish it? this is another thing i wish i'd mentioned earlier. what do you school if a child like you do in school if a child like refuses open their mouth? refuses to open their mouth? i mean, you end up with this bizarre situation, you bizarre situation, like when you take to the vet's and take a dog to the vet's and you've got to kind pry its you've got to kind of pry its lips open so you can examine its tooth. happening, is tooth. it's not happening, is it? going happen. so it? it's not going to happen. so i'm going to be joined now by dr. who is not here dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, journalist dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, kirk, journalist dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, kirk, which journalist dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, kirk, which isjournalist dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, kirk, which is just alist dr. alex weeks, who is not here yet, kirk, which is just asst julie kirk, which is just as well. much well. julie, thank you very much for this a good forjoining us. is this a good idea then? so should teachers be supervising children , brushing supervising children, brushing their teeth ? their teeth? >> of course they shouldn't .

>> of course they shouldn't. it's a parent's job to do that. and let's face it, teachers have got enough to do with looking after various other things that children have to be helped with now, training and now, like potty training and making could to the making sure they could go to the toilet and not not least to think about the educational think about all the educational things do and things they have to do and marking evenings and marking in the evenings and everything to this marking in the evenings and ev(top|ing to this marking in the evenings and ev(top of g to this marking in the evenings and ev(top of their to this marking in the evenings and ev(top of their iday this marking in the evenings and ev(top of their iday is this marking in the evenings and ev(top of their iday is just on top of their busy day is just ridiculous . on top of their busy day is just ridiculous. but number if ridiculous. but number two, if this is what keir starmer thinks is a questionable idea, i really think he's wrong. i think he's missing the point here. if children are unable to brush their teeth or their parents aren't able to keep their teeth healthy , what should healthy, what we should be looking making sure there looking is at making sure there are dentists for these are enough dentists for these children to ensure that their teeth are healthy in the first place. i don't think it's the place. i don't think it's the place teacher to brush place of the teacher to brush children's no. children's teeth. no no. >> i mean, do you not think i mean, i'm not a parent, but if i was a parent and, you know, my child was turning up to school every day hungry and essentially unwell , washed and with having unwell, washed and with having brushed its teeth, i would

seriously question whether or not i was a good parent. right >> well, exactly. it's just basic , like looking after basic, like looking after a child's skills , you know, as you child's skills, you know, as you said before, getting them dressed, putting their uniform on, sure they've got on, making sure they've got clean undennear on, making sure they've night they've had a bath the night before morning , you before or that morning, you know, and making their know, and making sure their teeth just teeth are clean. it's just a tiny getting ready tiny part of getting ready in the it's rocket the morning and it's not rocket science. you know, as you say, i think putting far too much think we're putting far too much onus other people society think we're putting far too much onlook other people society think we're putting far too much onlook afterir people society think we're putting far too much onlook after people's society think we're putting far too much onlook after people's childreny to look after people's children when brushing teeth is clear. >> why should we pay for it as well? is the thing now, look, again, i want to make it very clear. i'm not talking about people have people who maybe have a disability issue disability or a particular issue . that means that it's very difficult. it very difficult difficult. it is very difficult for look after the child for them to look after the child in way that most of the in the way that most of the people might do. that's not what i'm about. and i think i'm talking about. and i think i hope clear. am hope that's pretty clear. i am talking you talking about people who, you know how does it how much know, how much does it how much does cost or much does an apple cost or how much does an apple cost or how much does slice bread cost does does a slice of bread cost to make toast in the morning? if does does a slice of bread cost to ncouldjast in the morning? if does does a slice of bread cost to ncould not in the morning? if does does a slice of bread cost to ncould not everyone)rning? if does does a slice of bread cost to ncould not everyone should if does does a slice of bread cost to rhavei not everyone should if does does a slice of bread cost to rhave toot everyone should if does does a slice of bread cost to rhave to workeryone should if does does a slice of bread cost to rhave to workeryon hardiuld if does does a slice of bread cost to rhave to workeryon hard dayif not have to work very hard day in day out to go and give every

single school pupil single primary school pupil a free meal. i just don't free school meal. i just don't agree with that. okay. and do agree with that. okay. and i do not agree that we should be having every single primary school england , school pupil in england, probably age , probably below a certain age, being supervised a teacher being supervised by a teacher when we're falling behind vietnam in some of the education rankings. we're not actually teaching kids . it's no wonder teaching kids. it's no wonder we've got something like 9% of teaching staff leaving before retirement every single is retirement every single year. is it ? julia they're forced it? julia they're being forced to this . to do stuff like this. >> exactly. i mean, these are intelligent people who've trained teach their trained to teach their particular or to go into particular subject or to go into education. they haven't gone into to education tie up shoelaces, give breakfast, make sure they're potty trained and brush their teeth. so again, i think really it's again, it's giving the state far too much control on raising our children, which is a slippery slope of worrying in itself. i think worrying in itself. but i think the teeth thing just don't the teeth thing is just i don't think it's an actionable proposal . proposal. >> yeah. okay. so what would you say about a dentistry at the moment is very difficult to get an nhs dentist. i actually

called up a dentist the other day, not not nhs because i thought i needed something doing day, not not nhs because i thougurgently. ed something doing day, not not nhs because i thougurgently. turnsnething doing day, not not nhs because i thougurgently. turns out|ing doing quite urgently. turns out remarkably , julia just bit remarkably, julia just had a bit of in my tooth of food stuck in my tooth because that's the kind of guy i am. but but for a while i thought this might be terminal and i called the dentist and i said, what can you do me for a check—up? and they said, oh, be about and i was about be about £250. and i was like flipping out, what if i need a filling? went , we need a filling? they went, we start at 500. i thought grief. actually, the vast majority of people go, but the vast people i didn't go, but the vast majority couldn't majority of people couldn't afford . okay, maybe, afford that. okay, so maybe, maybe just to play devil's advocate, there is some sense in state mandated tooth brushing as a way of long term planning for a way of long term planning for a brighter future . a brighter future. >> well , you say that a brighter future. >> well, you say that and it sounds like that on paper , but i sounds like that on paper, but i just think that those those things are the are the there by the parents, the parents should be doing this. the parents should be brushing their own child's isn't child's teeth. this isn't a health like broken leg health concern like a broken leg or you know rickets from you know, not eating properly. this is a really simple thing that

every parent can do , as you say, every parent can do, as you say, unless disabled you unless you're disabled or you have problems. really and have other problems. really and truly, it isn't for the state to take care of that aspect . and as take care of that aspect. and as you said before, with the cost of , i think that's of dentistry, i think that's where key is. where the key issue is. and i think that's what he's trying to evade avoid, which that evade or avoid, which is that there dentists there aren't enough dentists around. and there were more around. and if there were more children, given the children, would be given the skills, dentist skills, you know, the dentist could child brush could teach a child how to brush their teeth. worst case scenario, i think this scenario, i think i think this is honestly , i know that there is honestly, i know that there are elements to that are are elements to this that are quite funny. are elements to this that are qui'right? y. are elements to this that are qui'right? but i do that if >> right? but i do think that if you back, this one you strip that back, this is one of examples of the most egregious examples of the most egregious examples of and that the of state control and that the ideology that state do ideology that the state can do everything better than anybody else in the individual can. i really think that's what's at the core of this here. and i don't really want to live in a country where, you know , we country where, you know, we seriously might have a leader who genuinely thinks that that teachers supervising children to brush their teeth are are we brush their teeth are we are we infantilizing parents? you know, is this a situation where we're giving an excuse to everyone's got an excuse for everything

these days? julie, as far as i can tell , you know, there's can tell, you know, there's a million reasons why people's lives can be difficult. and i've got every sympathy for people with genuine concerns, don't get me wrong, but not everything is somebody else's fault . somebody else's fault. >> no, no , i agree. and in fact, >> no, no, i agree. and in fact, infantilizing parents is what it is. it's also patronising parents and it's patronising teachers . as you know, teachers teachers. as you know, teachers haven't trained to brush children's teeth. parents when you become a parent, it's again, it's not rocket science. it's quite instinct to keep your child clean and healthy and looked after. i mean, these are just basic things that are in our evolutionary dna. i don't think we need to be told how to do that. >> no. 100. julie, look, thank you much . this you very, very much. this is juue is you very, very much. this is julie is a julie cook. there is a journalist the show as journalist friend of the show as well. to have on. well. lovely to have you on. thank now we've spoken thank you. now we've spoken abouti thank you. now we've spoken about i so in the last hour i had a chat with you about artificial intelligence chat bots because this individual who decided that he wanted to try to kill the queen with a crossbow

back christmas day 2021, was back on christmas day 2021, was having conversations having numerous conversations with with artificial intelligence on a particular app. and that artificial intelligence said that it loved him. so he believed he was in a relationship . it told him relationship. it also told him basically to kill the queen, which is a concern. i was thinking about what kind of people might find locked in people might you find locked in a room every single day with an ai girlfriend? maybe those are people who have certain vulnerabilities . maybe those are vulnerabilities. maybe those are people susceptible people who might be susceptible to manipulated . there's to being manipulated. there's also a you can find this out for yourself by using chat gpt, which is one of the apps, not the one in question here, though. one of the apps which has really quite radical left has a really quite radical left wing if wing bias attached to it. if you ask them women women, ask them are trans women women, it yes, categorically it tells you yes, categorically yes , are. very, very yes, they are. i was very, very concerned about where ai is going and how dangerous it might be, especially if vulnerable people who have mental health problems or who are right on the bnnk problems or who are right on the brink can essentially be encouraged to commit acts of violence. i mean, this guy has

got nine years in prison. i'm not he's completely not saying he's completely innocent anything innocent or anything like that at because was at all, because that was an aspect they aspect of the trial they were trying figure when trying to figure out when his mental health issues started. but time , it's not but at the same time, it's not helped, is it, if you're having thousands thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands with thousands and thousands and thousa bot with thousands and thousands and thousa bot , with thousands and thousands and thousa bot , that with thousands and thousands and thousa bot , that is with thousands and thousands and thousa bot , that is not with thousands and thousands and thousa bot , that is not against1 a chat bot, that is not against the idea of you going out and committing a murder. so we've spoken alternative spoken about alternative intelligence, there's intelligence, but there's another of technology intelligence, but there's anoth(doing of technology intelligence, but there's anoth(doing of roundsogy that's doing the rounds at the moment, that's moment, and that's facial recognition technology. so campaigners and mps are now calling for the ban of facial recognition cameras , citing recognition cameras, citing concerns over privacy. i also have some concerns about how accurate it is as well. there have been a few instances where somebody has been walking down the street and all of a sudden it looks like they for match somebody who's wanted for murder. particularly somebody who's wanted for murder. to particularly somebody who's wanted for murder. to me. iarticularly somebody who's wanted for murder. to me. patrick rly want that to be me. patrick christys britain's

sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news so mps and campaigners are now calling for a ban on the use of ai facial recognition surveillance. >> i feel like it's quite sinister this but these surveillance cameras are positioned in specific locations , so they scan the faces of the pubuc , so they scan the faces of the public using live facial recognition . they compare these recognition. they compare these people with people on watch lists who may be wanted by police or the courts . this in police or the courts. this in association with crimes is, yeah, i don't know about you, but this makes me feel very, very uncomfortable. joining me now is privacy and security

expert jamal ahmed now is privacy and security expertjamal ahmed . now is privacy and security expert jamal ahmed . jamal, thank expert jamal ahmed. jamal, thank you very much . great to have you you very much. great to have you on the show . do we really need on the show. do we really need this in society? i mean, how accurate , how accurate are they, accurate, how accurate are they, for a start , there are for a start, there are challenges with accuracy. >> so we've seen in the us where someone has been put in prison because it's not accurate and there's an inherent built there's an inherent bias built into so if you're a white into them. so if you're a white male, then the chances of it being accurate are great. but if you're a if you're you're a woman, if you're someone from a minority background, you're someone someone from a minority backhasmd, you're someone someone from a minority backhas complexione someone that has complexion on your skin, accuracy starts skin, then the accuracy starts at decreasing to a point where it could actually become a challenge. >> and it's not just based on race. the challenges come. it matches against the database. race. the challenges come. it matcthe against the database. race. the challenges come. it matcthe picture the database. race. the challenges come. it matcthe picture one database. race. the challenges come. it matcthe picture on the tabase. race. the challenges come. it matcthe picture on the database now the picture on the database would have been taken at a certain angle. there would have been it, been a certain background to it, certain lighting. and when you're facial you're using this facial recognition, cameras in shops, mobile, they are, it's mobile, wherever they are, it's going to be a different angle . going to be a different angle. there's going to be different lighting, there's going to be different backgrounds. >> they're always >> so they're not always accurate and they can create false as false positives as well as negatives a negatives that mean there is a criminal missing criminal there or a missing child and it didn't pick them

up. challenges with up. so there are challenges with the it. but that's the accuracy of it. but that's not what pros me not what privacy pros like me are what worried is >> what we're worried about is in society , do we in a democratic society, do we need to actually make everybody feel stressed all the time that they're being watched, that they're being watched, that they're monitored ? they're being monitored? >> we make people >> and how do we make people aware with all of these cameras becoming ubiquitous that there is recognition is actually facial recognition and on at an and profiling going on at an event on the street? >> they're to . going >> they're to. going >> they're to. going >> yeah, i mean, we're all arguably we already live a arguably we already live in a surveillance state. don't we, really? mean, i appreciate the really? i mean, i appreciate the irony of talking to you about irony of me talking to you about this but be this whilst on camera, but to be fair, my job. i've fair, this is my job. i've consented to this and i would consented to this and i would consent it 24 over seven i consent to it 24 over seven if i had option. but how regular had the option. but how regular is facial recognition stuff? so are we getting zapped without knowing it? is it everywhere or is it just, you know , just is it just, you know, just certain towns? what's going on across europe ? across europe? >> it is increasing. i mean, if i go to one of my local supermarkets, there will be facial recognition employed. the challenge technology is with recognition technology is with normal cameras. i can go in, i can go someone can review

can go out, someone can review that, that that, someone can walk, that they about they don't know anything about me recognition me with facial recognition technology, what you can do is you can map that and then you can go and stalk me. >> can find where i've been, >> you can find where i've been, where at time where i've not been at what time i was in a particular place. >> other with facial >> the other concern with facial recognition technology is no system is inherent safe. so what happens gets hold happens when someone gets hold of password? of my password? >> a big deal. >> well, it's not a big deal. i can change it. what happens when someone face? someone gets hold of my face? i can't change my face. >> isn't off movie can't change my face. >> wein't off movie can't change my face. >> we can off movie can't change my face. >> we can go off movie can't change my face. >> we can go and movie can't change my face. >> we can go and do vie where we can go and do the nicolas stuff, right? so nicolas cage stuff, right? so this are really this is what people are really worried about. >> concerning >> and most concerning is the way being used. way it's being used. >> right now it's being used >> so right now it's being used against list. >> the police have now >> but what the police have now said is, hey, let us have the whole database of anyone who's ever a passport ever applied for a passport so we who single we can see who every single person are, what person is, where they are, what they've doing, and that's they've been doing, and that's what concern is, what the concern is, is constantly watched. constantly being watched. >> this is bonkers. >> this is this is bonkers. >> this is this is bonkers. >> is really this is bogus. >> this is really this is bogus. i'm seriously think genuinely, seriously think this is incredibly sinister that this is happening because like you said, and once these things exist so you can it for whatever

you can start it for whatever purpose, let's just give people the benefit of the doubt and go is really well meaning individuals came with piece individuals came up with a piece of to try to stop of technology to try to stop murderers rapists walking murderers and rapists walking around right. okay. around the street. right. okay. but you're everyone's but if you're getting everyone's face and then, oh, i don't know, maybe a little bit further down the you decide that it's the line, you decide that it's a goodidea the line, you decide that it's a good idea to maybe start doing something with all that something with all of that information that you now happen to . well, get a to have. well, you get a different government power or different government in power or you another or you have another lockdown or whatever you've whatever happens, then you've got all this stuff that ship got all this stuff and that ship has sailed. the cameras exist, the exists , the database the thing exists, the database exists. that's it . it's the thing exists, the database exists. that's it. it's game oven exists. that's it. it's game over. i just don't think we want to actually get there, do we? >> i completely agree with you. and that's exactly what the mps . exactly what companies . that's exactly what companies like big brother watch. >> that's what they're advocating for. they're saying, look, okay, you started off by saying only going to use saying we're only going to use this known criminals on this against known criminals on databases, trying databases, but now you're trying to whole population to surveil the whole population . isn't what we . and that just isn't what we want in a democratic society. thatis want in a democratic society. that is not good enough. >> and we're quick to point >> and we're very quick to point

fingers camera at countries fingers at camera at countries like china and talk about their surveillance. trying surveillance. but we're trying to those in here. to bring those in here. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and the question what you identified about scope identified there is about scope creep. >> where it stop it might >> where does it stop it might begin here, but it starts begin here, but then it starts creeping and creeping and creeping and creeping and creeping that's where creeping and that's where we have challenges want have big challenges and we want to that. to make sure that. >> what, i'd be >> i tell you what, i'd be fascinated know where these fascinated to know where these cameras as well. you cameras are made as well. you know, if it's in or know, if it's made in china or something like that. we regularly things regularly hear about things being mean, being hacked, don't we? i mean, you would just you can imagine this would just be data be some large facial data scraping exercise . but anyway, scraping exercise. but anyway, obviously, some people would say that it's it's just to that it's nice, it's just to keep and that we it keep us safe and that we need it in range of in our lives. so a range of views way. jamal, thank views in a way. jamal, thank you. ahmed, the you. jamal ahmed, who's the privacy and security expert. loads in about loads of emails coming in about this. i just feel very uncomfortable about maybe uncomfortable about it. maybe maybe ott maybe people think i'm being ott . i don't know. ijust maybe people think i'm being ott . i don't know. i just feel very uncomfortable about the of uncomfortable about the idea of facial recognition everywhere. but before the break, i was but just before the break, i was speaking to journalist julie cook about starmer's latest cook about keir starmer's latest plan, a grand plan to make students brush their teeth in schools . julie myself, schools. julie like myself, not a fan, not a fan, but i want to

make sure that have all make sure that we have all perspectives on this show, okay? and actually, it's kicked off so much in the inbox that i decided that we're to going do another hit on this. so i joined now hit on this. so i am joined now by weeks. dr. is by dr. alice weeks. dr. alex is just any second now there. yeah there we go. right. good stuff. so you are so you are a dentist. that's right. how do you feel about the idea of kids essentially being made to brush their teeth in school ? their teeth in school? >> well, i think it's a good concept. if we can do anything to reduce the incidence of decay and dental disease and, you know, in children, it's always a good thing. right. but the problem is that i think it is a bit of an overreach in terms of putting the pressure on teachers to do this. i think it's a bit of a it's a bit much to actually suggest that teachers do this rather than sort of taking that responsibility away from parents. you know, there are other in we can sort other ways in which we can sort of blanket decay in of blanket reduce decay in society. you know, for example , society. you know, for example, fluoride fluoride usage in the

water. i know it's a bit controversial, but, you know, that's one way of doing it. okay but yeah, i think i think it's a good concept, but it's , it's good concept, but it's, it's a little bit simplistic. >> yeah . and i mean, how bad is >> yeah. and i mean, how bad is it in dentistry at the moment, right? because i've got to be honest with you, it's my, my take on it is, you know, the dentists that know, of dentists that i know, one of them, best friends are them, my best friends are dentists, absolutely. dentists, right? absolutely. rolling it. absolutely rolling in. loving life is great. in. it loving life is great. a ready made cure. people out there, every single day. you know, it's a great life. how bad is of people's teeth is the state of people's teeth in country well , i in this country? we well, i mean, i work both privately and separately on the nhs. >> i'm doing my nhs data. this is my surgery, actually. oh, wow . and i saw i saw a child this morning, four and a half years old with needing ten fillings, probably actually more like more like four extractions and six fillings. and he was in pain and the mum just had no clue. fillings. and he was in pain and the mum just had no clue . she, the mum just had no clue. she, she literally said, i didn't even know i was supposed to bnng even know i was supposed to bring him in. this is the first

time he's a dentist. and, bring him in. this is the first timeitle's a dentist. and, bring him in. this is the first timeit breaks a dentist. and, bring him in. this is the first timeit breaks my dentist. and, bring him in. this is the first timeit breaks my heartit. and, bring him in. this is the first timeit breaks my heart everyi, and it breaks my heart every time. quite a lot of time. and i see quite a lot of those cases like it's ongoing at the moment. so i'm not sure if it's like a drawback from kids being missed out from the covid penod being missed out from the covid period , but there's quite a lot period, but there's quite a lot of it going on at the moment, you know, but i would say , hey, you know, but i would say, hey, you know, but i would say, hey, you know, but i would say, hey, you know, we do have some cases still out there and it'd be to good like reduce it. well, maybe. >> hey, know, know what maybe. >> look know, know what maybe. >> look at know, know what maybe. >> look at if:now, know what maybe. >> look at if you, know what maybe. >> look at if you look know what maybe. >> look at if you look at ow what maybe. >> look at if you look at casesiat you look at if you look at cases like that, then you would go, well, yeah. does the child have to up? because their to stuff up? because their parent might be necessarily parent might not be necessarily fulfilling their parental duties? know, therefore, if duties? you know, therefore, if they did get teeth cleaned they did get their teeth cleaned in maybe that in school, maybe, maybe that would help them. but can i just really thank you for coming really say thank you for coming on? dr. alex we're a bit short of so problem. of time now, so no problem. >> pleasure. >> my pleasure. >> my pleasure. >> take it easy. right. >> take it easy. all right. all the weeks there the best. dr. alex weeks there is tell, is indeed. as you can tell, a dentist. yeah. gosh. well, there we loads views in we go. loads of views coming in on gbnews.com on this gb views gbnews.com people saying let me get this one up now. patrick. yes, look , one up now. patrick. yes, look, i think this is ridiculous. i would want teacher be would not want my teacher to be

in charge of my child's dental hygiene and that is from stephen. anyway, source says ah oh no different story now. plenty more still to come this afternoon . a significant afternoon. a significant by—election victory for sir keir starmer. so what were this result look like if it was repeated on a national scale ? repeated on a national scale? okay. and police have scrambled to a migrant hotel in wales after protesters gathered to target new security . kwasi. target new security. kwasi. i will be speaking to the voice of wales, dan morgan, very , very wales, dan morgan, very, very shortly to stradey park hotel . shortly to stradey park hotel. it's been an incredibly controversial site . we're going controversial site. we're going to go there and get the very , to go there and get the very, very latest from the scene. all of your way and of that coming your way and much, hour much, much more in the next hour with christys right with me patrick christys right here news. we are, of here on gb news. we are, of course news channel . course, britain's news channel. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . first, cloudy for many of us today . windy with some outbreaks today. windy with some outbreaks of rain in the north and it's warm in the far south with some

spells of sunshine. that's where high pressure is. but north of that high, we've got a slow moving weather front which will p°p moving weather front which will pop up moving weather front which will pop up overnight and into the start of saturday, bringing increasingly heavy and persistent rain to parts of scotland, especially central and western scotland . and there is western scotland. and there is the risk through the weekend of significant flooding in this part of the country. elsewhere across the uk, it's dry overnight with clear spells across central and southern parts. it's still fairly breezy andits parts. it's still fairly breezy and it's to going be a mild start to the weekend . some mist start to the weekend. some mist and low cloud around across england and wales. first thing, a few spots of rain over the pennines, thicker cloud for northern ireland and southern scotland and quite a breeze coming from a cold direction in the northern isles . but in the northern isles. but in between we've got this spell of heavy and persistent and heavy and persistent rain and amber in force because amber warning in force because there's the risk for the southwest highlands, the trossachs central belt that will southwest highlands, the tros significmtral belt that will southwest highlands, the tros signific ficantyelt that will southwest highlands, the trossignific ficant floodingwill see signific ficant flooding accumulating through saturday and into the start of sunday.

and there's an amber warning in force for that . thankfully, the force for that. thankfully, the rain does get out of the way. it pushes into the north of scotland on sunday. further south, we've got some warm spells of sunshine and increasing temperatures up into the mid 20s in the south and it stays largely fine in the south, at least into the start of next week

>> it's 5 pm. it's patrick christys , it's gb news and it's christys, it's gb news and it's all action. this hour. let's have a little look, shall we? north of the border, it's time up for humza yousaf , the leader north of the border, it's time up for snp. za yousaf , the leader north of the border, it's time up for snp. afterlsaf , the leader north of the border, it's time up for snp. after aif , the leader north of the border, it's time up for snp. after a devastating er of the snp. after a devastating by—election result. what does that for the general that mean for the general election in a year or so? in other news, i'll be talking about this. yes, that's right. welsh hotel the welsh migrant hotel fight. the locals. up in arms. it's locals. they're up in arms. it's still kicking off at stradey park. we're going check back park. we're going to check back in latest there. in with the latest there. why? because the uprising against the migrant in their village migrant hotel in their village continues . next. i will be continues. next. i will be chatting about this interesting study has come out which appears to suggest that people who are trans and have gone on medication for hormones , medication for hormones, etcetera, specifically testosterone by the way, could be an increased risk of heart disease and heart attacks. what does this mean about the kind of medication that we're putting kids on at younger age puberty blockers as well? so we'll be chatting about that. and chatting about all of that. and yes, it's been remarkably one of the big stories the day, the big stories of the day, actually, bonker actually, labour is bonker toothbrush you've not toothbrush plan. if you've not heard of this, i'll tell you

they want primary school pupils in supervised, in england to be supervised, brushing their teeth in schools. who's paying this? isn't who's paying for this? isn't this of parents? this the job of the parents? i think world's mad. think the world's gone mad. patrick . gb news. keep patrick christys. gb news. keep those emails flooding in gb views and news.com rather a lot to go out there. i'll see you the other side of the headlines with tatiana . patrick. with tatiana. patrick. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. 5:01. this is the latest that a man has been remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill tv presenter holly willoughby. gb news reporter lisa hartle has been outside court in chelmsford i >> 86 year old gavin plumb appeared at chelmsford magistrates court this afternoon. the shopping centre security guard from harlow in essex has been charged with soliciting a man named david nelson to commit murder and incitement to commit kidnap

between the second and the 5th of october. plumb is accused of planning to assemble a kidnap and restraint kit and encouraging a third party to travel to the uk to carry out the alleged offences . he was the alleged offences. he was remanded in custody and ordered to appear on the 3rd of november at chelmsford crown court . at chelmsford crown court. >> labour is describing its rutherglen and hamilton west by—election win as a seismic victory . michael shanks took the victory. michael shanks took the seat with 58% of the vote, more than double that of the snp's katie loudon . labour leader sir katie loudon. labour leader sir keir starmer says scotland is key to securing a majority at the next general election . the next general election. >> i've been determined from the moment i took over as leader of the labour party to take us from one of the worst defeats since the 1930. for us to a general election victory. and that's why we worked so hard to change the labour party. i've always said i'd the route to that general election in runs through scotland and that is because i know how strongly so many people

in scotland want change and i want to, if we're elected in to serve , i want to be the prime serve, i want to be the prime minister for the whole of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom, not just of the united kingdom. so it matters hugely that we succeed here in scotland . scotland. >> former first minister and current alba party leader alex salmond says humza yousaf has days to save his job after the by—election defeat at scotland's first minister says the snp needs time to reflect on the result . result. >> for the snp. >> for the snp. >> we didn't do enough. we know that there was a contextual factors. margaret ferrier's reckless actions. the police investigation of course, but we've got to reflect, i've got to reflect the party has to ensure we've got a good campaign machine behind us. but also that we're inspiring people with a message. we clearly got a message. we clearly got a message from the voters of rutherglen and hamilton west that the snp has lost some trust in that seat. we've got to make sure . sure we regain it. >> well, the green party has promised to deliver warm homes and protection for and further protection for renters. party which

renters. the party which currently has one member of parliament, has begun its party conference in brighton today. its co—leaders adrian ramsay and carla denier confirmed the party will be seeking to get four mps elected . will they set out their elected. will they set out their plans for homes as every home should be properly insulated and free from damp and mould. >> we'd give renters the legal right to demand this from their landlords . landlords. >> a conservative councillor has called for the home secretary's resignation over the handling of scampton. the government's accused of ignoring a legal order to stop converting the former air base into a migrant camp to house 2000 people. the home office says it's confident the project meets planning requirements. but councillor roger paterson described the department as liars . police and department as liars. police and private companies are being urged to stop using facial recognition surveillance. a group of 65 mps and peers backing a big brother watch

campaign are calling for change. police have used live facial recognition software at large scale public events such as the king's coronation. the group says it's concerned about human rights, the potential for discrimination and a lack of pubuc discrimination and a lack of public mandate. the united nafionsis public mandate. the united nations is to invest, negate an airstrike in ukraine that killed at least 52 people. a missile hit a cafe and a grocery store in the village of kwasi in kharkiv region yesterday while people gathered for a memorial service. it's one of the highest civilian death toll since the start of the war. the un high commissioner for human rights says the missile was likely fired by russia, but that it's too early to confirm. moscow denies deliberately targeting civilians . and house prices fell civilians. and house prices fell slightly last month but proved more resilient than analysts had expected . higher mortgage rates expected. higher mortgage rates were expected to fuel a sharp decline, but they only fell by

nought point 4. halifax says on a month on month basis, prices have dropped for six months in a row, with the average home now costing £280,000. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying piay on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . patrick >> we should give humza yousaf a knighthood for service to the united kingdom. thanks to him being about as popular as novichok , the scottish novichok, the scottish independence campaign is dead in the water, a rise , sir humza the the water, a rise, sir humza the saviour of the union . i mean, saviour of the union. i mean, look at this. okay. he's on the front cover of time magazine . front cover of time magazine. presumably. it's called time magazine, because the timing of this is absolutely perfect. there he is smirking away with the strapline trailblazer of the future. absolutely too, right? he is. he's shaping the future of scotland, staying in the

united kingdom, as indeed it should. few people have should. very few people have done more to shore up scotland's continued links to westminster than that man. i am, of course, talking about the fact that the snp got battered like a scottish mars bar in the rutherglen and hamilton by—election where hamilton west by—election where labour's michael secured labour's michael shank secured a 20.4% swing from the scottish nationalists. humza yousaf has said the buck stops with him . said the buck stops with him. yeah, i wonder at what point it will emerge that humza has been working deep undercover for the unionists all along. according to yougov , he's currently got to yougov, he's currently got a popularity rating of 11. i'm surprised that they could find 11 people labour has ruled out an independence referendum in scotland. the snp likes to say that every election victory that they had was tacit independence support. well, what about this now then it's over . it's now then it's over. it's finished. the dream has died. but like any oscars victory speech, humza yousaf also has to thank those who helped to make this possible. nicola sturgeon

and her amazing husband, peter murrell. we can't forget them at a time like this. of course, though , this is a double edged though, this is a double edged sword for a lot of people because a huge labour surge in scotland would probably mean a labour the general labour landslide at the general election. itself is election. but that in itself is not bad because a hung not all bad because a hung parliament would almost definitely mean a lib—lab coalition and that brings about the potential for a second eu referendum. doesn't it? look, today is not the day to dwell on the possibility of a stonking labour majority. no today is the day to bask in the glory of a humza yousaf snp meltdown and the independence movement crashing into oblivion , which is crashing into oblivion, which is something that humza yousaf knows a thing or two about. oh he is on his scooter. what could go wrong ? you he is on his scooter. what could go wrong? you mad wallop out of that eat concrete . so there we that eat concrete. so there we go. oh, look in virtue signalling i'm on scooter. signalling i'm on a scooter. i'm busy at work. i'm i'm busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man on move . yeah. you can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. move . yeah. you can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. you nove . yeah. you can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. you can't yeah. you can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. you can't stop1. you can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. you can't stop ournu can't busy at work. i'm busy. i'm a man me. you can't stop our facen't stop me. you can't stop our face to the floor anyway. well done, scotland. yes. well done and scotland. oh, yes. well done and well of course. to the

well done. of course. to the fair people of rutherglen and hamilton west, which you rarely get news, but most get to say on the news, but most of sir, yousaf , sir of all, sir, humza yousaf, sir humza , thank you very, humza yousaf, thank you very, very much . well that's the only very much. well that's the only thing i want to hear from you. gb views on news.com. but labour has only gone and blown the doors off those were the words of keir starmer as he hailed of sir keir starmer as he hailed this victory in this seismic victory in rutherglen and hamilton west by—election labour's michael shanks took the seat with a 20.4% swing from the snp . an 20.4% swing from the snp. an election guru, sirjohn 20.4% swing from the snp. an election guru, sir john curtice , says these figures were replicated at a general election. it will be comparable to labour's 1997 landslide under tony blair. if you are just joining us and for some reason you're wondering why we're so obsessed with a rather obscure seat somewhere . no offence to seat somewhere. no offence to the fair people of rutherglen and hamilton west. no offence . and hamilton west. no offence. it's of massive it's because of the massive national connotations to this. so it means for the snp, so what it means for the snp, what scottish what it means for scottish nationalists , um, it nationalists, um, what it

indicates potentially about the result and the landscape politically at the next general election. that's why we're, we're so bothered. but meanwhile scotland's first minister humza yousaf has conceded it was a disappointing night for the snp. it was, of course it's worth noting a very disappointing night for the scottish conservatives as well, whose candidate lost his deposit after securing just 3.9% of the vote. i did have a conservative former councillor on earlier on in the show who did quite a valiant effort at telling me that he thinks that many conservatives in that area are deliberately he voted for the labour party to stop . the scottish nationalists stop. the scottish nationalists are not sure i necessarily believe that, but let's get the thoughts now of data editor at the spectator , michael simmons. the spectator, michael simmons. michael, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. first things first, is scottish independence dead in the water? >> i think for the immediate even the medium future, scottish independence is dead in the water. >> and that was probably

guaranteed the day nicola sturgeon resigned. but i mean, further back, you could argue that the brexit vote made scottish independence dead in the water. but i think today just confirms that trajectory that the losses we see the snp making the things going wrong for the party don't seem to be one offs. it does now seem to be this downward trend. well what do you think people really don't like about humza yousaf ? like about humza yousaf? >> because he's not radically different politically from nicola sturgeon , is he ? nicola sturgeon, is he? >> no, he's he's very similar to nicola sturgeon, and he made himself out in the campaign to be the heir to sturgeon. but i think as much as sturgeon had many people who, you know, really strongly disliked her, very critical of her sturgeon did have a huge following within middle scotland , especially middle scotland, especially among women who like really admired the her leadership . and admired the her leadership. and the whatever you can say about her policy, she clearly had electoral success. and i think humza yousaf just doesn't have that. as you've shown yourself

earlier on, he can be gaffe prone. he can be alienating. i think one example where sturgeon was slightly smarter than him is nicola sturgeon would never get involved with one of the fiercest debates in scotland , fiercest debates in scotland, which was celtic or rangers . she which was celtic or rangers. she just didn't want to touch that, didn't want to get involved with football. but humza yousuf does get involved in and has got get involved in that and has got involved in things that have gone and rangers. >> think he's he's less >> so i think he's he's less astute therefore people are astute and therefore people are like more, you know , against him like more, you know, against him for that. >> it seems to have >> it just seems to have actually quite bad track actually quite a bad track record though generally. i mean there an incident i think there was an incident i think back december 2016. that's back in december 2016. that's certainly reported certainly when it was reported noted him driving a noted about him driving a friend's without insurance friend's car without insurance whilst was transport whilst he was transport minister. that's a gaffe. i mean, that is just a gaffe, especially of the kind especially in light of the kind of boris johnson of things that boris johnson was made but then there's made to go for. but then there's a bits and bobs being a few other bits and bobs being health , hasn't health minister, hasn't he? i mean health in scotland isn't great, it? mean has he great, is it? i mean has he actually he's actually had anything that he's donein actually had anything that he's done in life that would done in his life that would indicate that would be a good

indicate that he would be a good leader a party? leader of a party? >> no, he's he's not really had any success. i mean, that's putting it kindly. he's just consistently failed as a minister. as you say, transport secretary has done for driving without insurance , health without insurance, health secretary overseeing some of the worst outcomes in the scottish nhs history. but also he was justice secretary and pushed through this really unpopular hate crime bill. and that's still they're having problems implementing because it's just so hard for the police to deal with. so everything he has sort of done , he seemed to fail. and of done, he seemed to fail. and i the only reason he ended i think the only reason he ended up heir to sturgeon up the heir to sturgeon is because kate forbes basically fell out with the party over the trans issue. so she was out of the water. the original air. derek mackay, who was the finance minister, his career is in tatters because he'd been texting a schoolboy . so kind of texting a schoolboy. so kind of all the original errors, you know, further up the chain of succession , ian have been succession, ian have been finished off and it was kind of just humza . just left with humza. >> well, it's one way. it's one way to fall upwards , isn't it

way to fall upwards, isn't it really that but what's the general political mood like in scotland at the moment then? because let's, let's zoom out a bit now and talk about what this means for the general election or could mean for the general election going fonnard, because i that's the i think that's that's got the broader here. so labour broader appeal here. so labour are 20.4% swing. how likely do you think this is to take place? right across scotland really ? right across scotland really? because let's be honest, if scotland goes red, as it were, then keir starmer wanders into downing street , then keir starmer wanders into downing street, probably . downing street, probably. >> well, it's obviously difficult to extrapolate out from a by—election, but i do think that winning this by—election and winning it so handsomely was a necessary step for keir starmer's path to downing street. if he hadn't won this election and if he or if he had won it by a smaller margin, there would be more questions about will he do enough in scotland? but i think it does now look from this result that in scotland he probably will pick up more seats, maybe pick up a lot more seats, maybe even become the largest party,

which course a huge help which of course is a huge help to downing street. to get into downing street. and i it's because there's i think it's because there's this of pincer movement this sort of pincer movement going snp going on where there's snp voters who don't really the voters who don't really like the snp. they just independence snp. they just love independence and now think, well, and they now think, well, independence isn't happening. so i'll go back to my natural home, which equally which is labour, but equally there are many tory who there are many tory voters who are not really that bothered about the conservative party. they just want the snp out and they'll behind labour as they'll pile in behind labour as well. there's real labour are well. there's a real labour are the , snp and the winners, snp and conservatives, losers . conservatives, the losers. >> there's a, there's >> yeah, there's a, there's a real potent combination of factors scotland factors taking place in scotland that will have massive consequences, say and consequences, won't say and again for a lot of the people there an irony here lot there is an irony here for a lot of people were of the people that were desperate to scottish desperate to have scottish independence didn't independence because they didn't think enough from think that they got enough from westminster. it is actually scotland well dictate scotland that could well dictate who downing who wanders into downing street, which course in which is of course in westminster. they do have westminster. so they do have a massive element to play in british politics as whole. british politics as a whole. it's huge , important it's a huge, huge, important area of british politics, isn't it? what goes on in scotland ? a it? what goes on in scotland? a word about the conservatives. you mentioned them there. 3.9%

of vote in rutherglen and of the vote in rutherglen and hamilton west didn't get his deposit back. it's a bad result . what do you make of that ? oh . what do you make of that? oh have i got you, michael? the tories in rutherglen and hamilton west, is it bad for the tories in scotland? no, it's all right. we've lost michael. don't worry. we'll draw a line under it. michael simmons, the it. michael simmons, who is the data editor at the spectator. it. michael simmons, who is the data (okay at the spectator. it. michael simmons, who is the data (okay so the spectator. it. michael simmons, who is the data (okay so low. ipectator. it. michael simmons, who is the data (okay so low. stillator. it. michael simmons, who is the data (okay so low. still to r. yeah. okay so low. still to come, between now and the end of this hour, i'm going to be getting stuck into a new study that has found that trans women taking hormones can be up to 95% more likely to suffer heart disease. we'll be discussing that with the health editor at the express, lucy johnson. but i also want to try and branch out also want to try and branch out a bit and does that say anything about, know, kids going on about, you know, kids going on this treatment this hormone blocking treatment or puberty blockers or whatever it they go know, it is that they go on? you know, if like is happening if stuff like this is happening , seriously, need to , seriously, do we not need to be aware of this , 95% be made more aware of this, 95% more likely to suffer heart disease if you're a trans woman taking hormones? i mean, that's

an absolutely astonishing figure, isn't it? i'll be back in a tick patrick christys gb news, britain's news channel

news. the people's channel. britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's just gone 5:20. you're watching or listening to me? patrick christys on gb news. now a new study has found that trans women taking specialised hormonal drugs are almost twice as likely

to suffer from cardiovascular disease as men. basically, if you're a trans woman and you're on medication , apparently you're on medication, apparently you're about 95% as likely to suffer heart disease, which is a shocking statistic and not one i imagine they tell you when you decide that you're going to do it. the study also revealed that transgender to , transgender people to, regardless and regardless of background and sex, are significantly more at risk from deadly conditions like strokes, high blood pressure and high cholesterol levels. when undergoing long term drug schedules. yeah who would have seen this coming? but more on this could be brought to us by health and social affairs editor at the sunday express is lucy johnson. lucy thank you very much. okay, the first first much. look okay, the first first things first. so if you're a trans woman and you're on a certain type of testosterone , certain type of testosterone, right, you're 95% more likely to have heart disease, basically. so, yeah, it's pretty, pretty catastrophic, isn't it? >> yeah. so if you so trans men

. in so yeah. so men who are wanting to become women will be taking oestrogen in and women who identify as men will be taking testosterone. and both those drugs carry risks . and those drugs carry risks. and this study shows they carry different risks. but there are there is evidence that both those drugs increase the clotting factors in the blood. and this may explain why there's an increased risk of heart disease and blood clots and strokes. but the data out there is very uncertain. so we've got this study here that's been put out recently , put out today. and out recently, put out today. and then there are other studies which don't show the same effect. so this whole area is really uncertain . an and there really uncertain. an and there is huge debate over it and it's very difficult to do long term proper trials because with

proper trials because with proper clinical trials, you need someone on the drugs and then you need a controlled group on a dummy drug and that isn't possible to do so. there's a lot of debate and a lot of but but all drugs, of course, carry side effects . yes. and there's been a effects. yes. and there's been a huge increase in the number of people who are identifying as as trans, both in children and adolescents and in adults. now, there we go. and the children, there's been more controversy because many doctors have said that definite early. the risks appear to be outweighing the benefits because we don't know the long term effects . the long term effects. >> yeah, i mean, okay. i mean, we don't want to go down the vaccine rabbit hole too much, just mainly because i've got the energy you know, energy today. but you know, similar long similar ish things about long term data, etcetera. right. but when this, if we've when it comes to this, if we've got studies that appear to show or could at least in any way indicate that if you as a fully grown adult so i have now, unfortunately fully developed and so if i then went on stuff

and so if i then went on stuff and then i am at least altering what is , you know, fixed in what is, you know, fixed in stone , as it were. but if you stone, as it were. but if you put children on things like puberty blockers or, you know, pump them full of different hormones or that's before we've even got down to the actual full surgical alterations that could be made for kids as well. you know, is there not a very real possibility that they are going to massive health to have some massive health consequences the not so consequences in the not so distant ? distant future? >> so i think, again , this is >> so i think, again, this is hotly debated, isn't it? and you get into trouble for saying both both things, but the basic point is there isn't long good, long term data on this. we haven't got long term studies. we don't know what happens . there is know what happens. there is a risk that there's permanent infertility in children. there is a risk that the bone health is a risk that the bone health is affected and that could have long term implications for fractures. and there is a risk of clots and heart disease long term . so it's not routine , term. so it's not routine, highly recommended anymore by

the nhs. i know other countries have banned the use of these drugs in children, but at the moment it is being used on an experimental basis and being used . it's unregulated, so used. it's unregulated, so children can go or people can go on the internet and get these drugs and just get hold of them and use them and there are doctors that will prescribe them because they are allowed to be prescribed in some circumstances. so it's a really fiercely debated topic for adults. again and the data is still not clear . we don't know still not clear. we don't know the long term harms . and some the long term harms. and some people say, well , it's not people say, well, it's not clear, you know, that there is a risk of increased heart disease and strokes, but that may be because these people are also being more likely, more likely to be taking recreational drugs and that may increase their risk. they're more likely to be stressed and may increase stressed and that may increase the . but the bottom line is the risk. but the bottom line is there's no clear good evidence that that transitioning increase

is your risk of better increases, reduces your risk of suicide and or improves your mental health is another good thing. >> lucy this is another really good, good point. there because one of the big arguments , it's one of the big arguments, it's in favour of allowing young children to transition or making it easier for adults to transition is that if you didn't do that, their mental health would suffer to the point of suicide and we can't have that. we can't have people in a position where they were to going end their own life as a result of being so miserable about their own body. about living in their own body. but think you appear to but what i think you appear to suggest was there suggest there was that there doesn't to any doesn't really appear to be any conclusive evidence that having transitioned, having gone through all of that, will make them less likely to end their own lives . own lives. >> think are real >> i think there are real problems with the studies , the problems with the studies, the few studies that have shown that it improves outcomes and the follow up isn't good and there is systematic data that suggests quite the opposite. so given

that there's no clarity in the data , given that we don't know data, given that we don't know and given that there are some studies that show an increase risk of suicide and poorer mental health outcomes, what ever the debate you might have then once once we don't have that good data, then we should be really , really careful about be really, really careful about what we're doing. and people need to know about the risks they're taking before they start taking these drugs. >> lucy , thank you very, very >> lucy, thank you very, very much. lucy johnson there much. it's lucy johnson there who and social affairs who is health and social affairs editor the sunday express. editor at the sunday express. look i'm just going finish look i'm just going to finish off this particular segment by delving into the inbox. okay so lots of reaction. again as i was expecting to this labour party policy, which again, i just don't really understand what brainbox has come up with this idea . but it appears to be that idea. but it appears to be that children should be supervised to brush their schools . brush their teeth in schools. and thinking is the thinking and the thinking is the thinking is back is that it would help cut back on dental waiting lists. we'd all have better oral hygiene and that's fine . my argument against that's fine. my argument against this that is the taxpayer this is that is the taxpayer going to be expected to pay for this ? because if can't run

this? because if you can't run your own to the extent your own home to the extent where you you can't where you have you can't convince a small child brush convince a small child to brush their own teeth, then i'm not paying their own teeth, then i'm not paying for that. i'm not going to go out of my way to pay in the middle of an already incredibly high tax burden. the highest burden the highest tax burden since the war. go and start war. for us to go and start paying war. for us to go and start paying for parents who can't be bothered or won't make their children brush their own teeth. i think that's a disgrace personally, as do a lot of you actually, patrick, i think the toothbrush company should send them for free if they're them in for free if they're going to impose this. they used to. that's now, lee , to. that's from lee. now, lee, this is it. my main gripe with this is it. my main gripe with this taxpayers money. it is this is taxpayers money. it is also just a fundamental laziness of parents. i we already of parents. i mean, we already have calls for single have calls for every single primary school pupil to go on free school meals . i mean, there free school meals. i mean, there are way, are millionaires, by the way, who kids state who put their kids in state schools. go to schools. they don't all go to private should private schools. so why should they get a free school meal? i do just generally contest they get a free school meal? i do ideajust generally contest they get a free school meal? i do idea thatjenerally contest they get a free school meal? i do idea that childilly contest they get a free school meal? i do idea that child hunger.est they get a free school meal? i do idea that child hunger ist they get a free school meal? i do idea that child hunger is to the idea that child hunger is to the idea that child hunger is to the level that it really is when we need every single primary

school to have a free school breakfast. i'm sorry, i just do not agree with that. how much does a slice of toast cost? how much does an apple cost? i think that we should be there for people unquestionable if they fall times or if there's fall on hard times or if there's a massive problem in the home or in emergency situations. in those emergency situations. but if you a parent, my but if you are as a parent, my view would be so helpless to the point where you cannot feed your child breakfast or make sure that they have basic hygiene. i really question whether or not you should be in a parental role . quite a lot of emails coming in. a couple of people are saying, though , that, you know, saying, though, that, you know, when they were younger, it wasn't uncommon for them to brush their teeth at school. parents into parents rushing to get into work, kids at work, just dump their kids at school says imagine you school, says ian. imagine if you went into work told your went into work and told your employer to give breakfast employer to give you a breakfast and teeth in working and brush your teeth in working hours. would be sacked . you hours. you would be sacked. you would i mean, the other would hear. i mean, the other devastating consequence this devastating consequence to this is we're falling behind the is we're falling behind in the league when it comes to league tables when it comes to education. shouldn't teachers be teaching maths, english, teaching kids maths, english, languages, bit science , all languages, a bit of science, all of stuff, as opposed to

of that stuff, as opposed to standing small child and standing over a small child and checking that they brushed their teeth? that as being teeth? i just see that as being a and utter a complete and utter irrelevance. when i went to school, we had a school dentist who looked at our teeth regularly. this, of course, was not long after the war. i was born in 1946 and then i went to school at the age of five. the problem just so problem is now there are just so many thousands and many of us, thousands and thousands more children the thousands more children in the nhs if that's thousands more children in the nhs happens if that's thousands more children in the nhs happens when if that's thousands more children in the nhs happens when you'res what happens when you're overpopulated and that is from nina. thank you very much, everybody who's been getting in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com. now, as migrants in as the numbers of migrants in hotels the rise around the hotels is on the rise around the uk, can't be surprising that uk, it can't be surprising that protests are also increasing . protests are also increasing. and one hotel protest that we've been following incredibly closely on this show is in wales andits closely on this show is in wales and it's found itself embroiled in another storm. we'll be looking at that very, very shortly. but first, it's your headunes shortly. but first, it's your headlines with tatiana . patrick. headlines with tatiana. patrick. >> thank you and good afternoon

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investments that matter. now as the number of migrants staying in hotels across the country continues to rise. >> the protests against them are also becoming more and more frequent. hotel in frequent. stradey park hotel in llanelli, wales was the site of the latest incident that saw police rushed to the scene as the began to storm the protesters began to storm the protesters began to storm the grounds of the site. apparently joining us now is the host and commentator from the twitch channel, voice of wales, and regular on this show as well. morgan. dan, well. it's dan morgan. dan, thank much. to thank you very much. great to see so is the see you again. so what is the latest this particular hotel latest on this particular hotel ? i understand it's kicked off again has it? again a bit. has it? >> so the latest is that >> yeah. so the latest is that the fire department have gone in now and they have deemed it unsafe. it doesn't meet any fire regulations. >> it's not safe for escaping the fire detection isn't available. so at the moment, there's a notice on there that nobody can sleep in the building due to the state that it's in. >> um, that's that's the latest where we are. so that's a very big sort of win for the protest

fighters. now the land that we're seeing there that's actually contested land. so in the court injunction on that access way was for the hotel, but it was also for the landowners. now on sunday, just gone. there was a massive live motorcade and that did a drive past of the hotel to show its support. that consisted of members of the public local business is you had the bikers were there, the farmers were there, and the tractors and quads. and it was a massive display of unity. i suppose. but the bikers decided to exercise their rights to go into the contested land, which the police did try to prevent. happening now it's a trespass, which is a civil matter. so there's questions whether or not the police should have prevented it. and with the court injunction as well, access, they should well, given access, they should they have really got involved. should they have just let the bikes go in and do what they wanted to but they chose to wanted to do? but they chose to try prevent , as you can see try and prevent, as you can see here, and you know, what

happenedis here, and you know, what happened is the public just got involved and they made the police, you know, basically move out the way to allow the bikes in. and that shows we have a we do have a situation where this this is a hotel that employed 90 odd people. >> i think it was they were all turfed out. obviously it was a big draw for the local area. i think it's the only hotel major hotel like that. you know, that was there and that was then due to house all male asylum seekers, i believe , and hundreds seekers, i believe, and hundreds of people now. i mean, this has been going on. people have been camping outside this hotel to try to stop this 24 over seven. now months, haven't they? now for months, haven't they? yeah yeah. >> literally since may, since the news broke, the camp was formed . it's grown and grown and formed. it's grown and grown and grown where the original camp was behind . behind that. now was behind. behind that. now there's another tent that's been donated , which is a big military donated, which is a big military style tent . and then that is style tent. and then that is beyond the wall. so it's on the

land that is contested . so the land that is contested. so the protesters, they are you know, everyone knew that they were setting up camp. the police were hoping that when the weather changes , the people will tend to changes, the people will tend to fizzle off. but what we're seeing with how the police are acting amount of arrests acting and the amount of arrests that happening, does that are happening, and it does seem two tiered of seem very two tiered sort of policing seen at the policing that we've seen at the moment. just attracting moment. it's just attracting more and protesters. know more and more protesters. i know there's halloween parties arranged, christmas arranged, there's christmas lunch already being arranged to have it inside the camp. so it's having the opposite effect of what these politicians and police are trainer, trainer, give because they are hoping that they can push the protests away and they can, you know, calm it down a bit. but at the moment, the night of the motorcade, there was 60 police officers on a head count, on the ground in front of the hotel and more surrounding the perimeter. so, you know , it's costing so, you know, it's costing there's no one in there, though, is there? >> this is what i don't quite understand. i mean, i get that it's owned by somebody, a hotel. so it's property. and the police

would have a duty for that property, not to be trashed. i would counter that slightly by saying have already saying that they have already trashed , haven't they, in trashed it, haven't they, as in the that were ripping it the people that were ripping it out make it ready for out to try to make it ready for these new migrant arrivals. and so , no, it's not actually fit so, no, it's not actually fit for human habitation at the moment anyway, is it? >> no , it's absolutely not. and >> no, it's absolutely not. and that's what the fire department said when they went there. the fire service, they been fire service, they they've been round building, fire service, they they've been round building , they've put round the building, they've put the and the the notices up and even the security who are there 24 hours, they different shifts . they they do different shifts. they have a changeover morning have a changeover in the morning and the and in the afternoon. the security now no longer security are now no longer allowed to sleep at the premises, which is what they have been doing for some time. there's been five, i believe, security firms, the quickest one they went in, they decided this isn't for them and they came out. so, you know , it's getting out. so, you know, it's getting to the point now where, you know, the questions got to be asked is this feasible? the review to a 90 day review is due to take place next week , we to take place next week, we believe, and that would be

between the home office. the owners the hotel , potentially owners of the hotel, potentially the police, politicians and fire department as well. so we just got to see where that goes . got to see where that goes. >> but i think i'm right in saying i mean, it must be i cover the issue of migrant hotels lot . i think this must hotels a lot. i think this must be the longest and largest protest anywhere in the uk. i think migrant hotel, you know, why do the people there care so much about this ? why? well what much about this? why? well what you've got internationally is that you've still got community. >> the welsh labour government have done everything they can to destroy the community in big cities. swansea , cities. you know, swansea, cardiff, wrexham, newport, all these have gone, the these places have gone, the community spirits gone slightly. it's a long history of it's got a very long history of community spirit people , community spirit and people, when they don't like government policy, stepping up and saying no . and every time you've got no. and every time you've got the rebecca riots , for example, the rebecca riots, for example, happened very long ago . happened a very long time ago. that to farmers that was in regards to farmers getting into the town centre to sell as they wanted

sell their goods as they wanted to impose taxes on that and tollgates was prevented tollgates that was prevented through mass civil protest . tollgates that was prevented through mass civil protest. um, and then you've got the railway strikes that happened as well. so a history of so there's a long history of this llanelli and they are this in llanelli and they are absolutely the type of community that i believe the welsh government fear because they aren't afraid to stand up and say no, they aren't afraid to get arrested if it comes to it to make their point and make their voice heard , which is what their voice heard, which is what we've seen now. i think it's up their voice heard, which is what welikeseen now. i think it's up their voice heard, which is what welike 26n now. i think it's up their voice heard, which is what welike 26 arrestsi think it's up their voice heard, which is what welike 26 arrests nowik it's up their voice heard, which is what welike 26 arrests now so t's up their voice heard, which is what welike 26 arrests now so far. |p to like 26 arrests now so far. so, you know , they are going the so, you know, they are going the distance and the difference is, is that each of them people there will willingly and happily go and get arrested for the next person, the person to next them. the same was said the other day. you know, one of them gets kicked limp. you know, one of them gets kicknthat's limp. you know, one of them gets kicknthat's exactly limp. you know, one of them gets kicknthat's exactly the limp. you know, one of them gets kicknthat's exactly the feeling.imp. and that's exactly the feeling we get from and it's growing and growing and it's a monumental waste of police and waste of police time and resources to have 60 police officers surrounding a hotel that possibly should never well, definitely should never have been used first place for been used in the first place for this stuff. >> you know, could be

>> and, you know, they could be doing things. best doing better things. the best thing just to thing to do would just be to say, not why are say, look, we're not we. why are we continuing do this we continuing to do this months and and just call and months and months? just call it there is such big it off. and if there is such big opposition would opposition as well, i would argue, point at what argue, at what point at what point are the british public to going about any of going be consulted about any of this? if they're not going this? and if they're not going to of it to be consulted about any of it and to set up a camp and they decide to set up a camp for of six months, for the best part of six months, and getting larger and that camps getting larger and that camps getting larger and you're talking and larger and you're talking about dinner and larger and you're talking aboutand dinner and larger and you're talking aboutand all dinner and larger and you're talking aboutand all sorts dinner and larger and you're talking aboutand all sorts just dinner and larger and you're talking aboutand all sorts just mover there and all sorts just move on, find another hotel, find somewhere else , or do something somewhere else, or do something else. why can't you to just hammer this community that obviously do not want it, you know. but dan, thank you very much. great talking. we're out of time because i was ranting on there. but it's dan morgan. there was voice wales. there was the voice of wales. good look, he good luck. yeah. look, again, he makes great point about makes a great point about community, doesn't he? and i can't or can't help but wonder whether or not of the uk, not in a lot of parts of the uk, you know, solidified community, whether it's a village or a town has broken down over the has been broken down over the years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. that years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. it that years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. it little that years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. it little bit that years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. it little bit easier that years, hasn't it? certainly in cities. it little bit easier for at makes it a little bit easier for people things people to implement things that you don't particularly get you don't particularly like. get

in touch. so on that story, gbviews@gbnews.com, we'll keep checking in there with the stradey hotel. think it's stradey park hotel. i think it's a really interesting microcosm of where britain when it of where britain is when it comes asylum seeker comes to the asylum seeker hotels. still to come , hotels. but still to come, police scotland police in scotland have cancelled to take on 200 cancelled plans to take on 200 new recruits in january . the new recruits in january. the scramble to save some cash. plus my pick of the day , will saudi my pick of the day, will saudi arabia allow beer at the 2034 world cup? they're saying that they will, but we have something similar in qatar, didn't we? and they backed out at the last minute. patrick christys gb news business news

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the people's. channel >> welcome back course to six. you are watching or listening to me, patrick christie's on gb news. and as if things couldn't get for humza yousaf get much worse for humza yousaf after his election by—election loss, he now has to account for a huge overspend in the police force . so police scotland has force. so police scotland has cancelled plans to take on 200 new recruits in january , despite new recruits in january, despite growing concerns the growing concerns over the increased demand for them in urban centres . police scotland urban centres. police scotland are currently facing a huge £19 million project overspend this yean million project overspend this year. but can the country afford to lose these new recruits? joining me now is the former head of counter—terrorism at the city of police. it's city of london police. it's kevin hurley. kevin, thank you very much. so was law and order gone to dogs scotland gone to the dogs in scotland then? it hasn't gone to the then? well it hasn't gone to the dogs, but i'm fortunately, we're going to see 200 less police officers on the street because

the budget doesn't add up. >> i mean, the things that concern me really about this are it's more than just 200 young officers not going to be recruited in at this moment. >> they're also closing down training for a few months to save money. >> and that's a thin end of the wedge because a police service or police force still needs to be able to maintain the quality of service that it delivers such is these days. and if you stop delivering training across the board to detectives, these traffic officers like this one, we're watching , investigating we're watching, investigating accidents and so on, you just see a drop off the standard of service. but we are where we are, i'm afraid the country is skint and there's not the money, certainly in scotland for them to i'll be honest with you, i'm surprised i'm surprised that they actually can they have the applications to be a police officer these days because you're not allowed strike you you're not allowed to strike you two aren't massively well paid, i think for the job that you do

i >> -- >> if there was one sector within our public sector that i would give a pay rise to, it would give a pay rise to, it would be the police straight away. you know, as a conservative party conference in manchester, them stood manchester, you see them stood out in the driving out there all day in the driving rain. are armed. rain. some of them are armed. and think if one of them and you think if one of them does end up using that gun on somebody or may not somebody who may or may not actually violent actually be a violent thug or a terrorist, every chance terrorist, there's every chance that themselves terrorist, there's every chance that and themselves terrorist, there's every chance that and completely lves court and completely thrown under ups. under the bus by the higher ups. ijust under the bus by the higher ups. i just think doesn't seem to i just think it doesn't seem to be time to police be a great time to be a police officer. say or officer. everything you say or do body cam. you've got do is on body cam. you've got people with people running around with knives just people running around with knive i just people running around with knive i was just people running around with knivei was amazed, just people running around with knivei was amazed, to just people running around with knivei was amazed, to bet people running around with knivei was amazed, to be honest think i was amazed, to be honest with you, kevin. they managed to recruit anybody begin with. recruit anybody to begin with. well well, i mean, i agree. >> the thing is, for a young person, it sounds like a very interesting, exciting , varied interesting, exciting, varied job, which it is . but as you job, which it is. but as you start to learn what's going on and the constraints that are upon you, of course, more and more people are actually voting with their feet and leaving my own son, with 16 years in very good job, detective sergeant on the anti—terrorist squad walked

out the door last year to the pubuc out the door last year to the public sector. he's the ninth member of my family to have been in the police and the emotional that was quite traumatic to deal with the fact that he's gone. but it's the right decision because the quality of life for police officers in terms of their fear about job security, their fear about job security, their fear about job security, their fear to use force, as you've just just described, it has dropped right off. and as you say , we're very quick as you say, we're very quick as a society to throw them under the bus virtually all forms of the media, with the exception of gb news, are on their case just for a cheap headline. and very few people do what you do. i think there's i think yeah, thank you i >>i >> i think there's the i think i do think i do think that there's seems to be the presumption of guilt it comes the guilt when it comes to the police. i don't know whether that's like a natural human instinct back against instinct to push back against authority whatever, you authority or whatever, but, you know , people in view, people know, people in my view, people just don't think it through. this idea of perpetuating that things like stop and search is an inherently racist activity

there has to be stopped because police deliberately go police officers deliberately go out and look for people of ethnic minority appear to search them. know i think well them. you know i think well what's what's the alternative then we have no stop and search do we. we have no that doesn't that know, that doesn't exist. you know, defund the police giving platforms to who want to platforms to people who want to defund . okay, fine. defund the police. okay, fine. well, you seen goes on defund the police. okay, fine. w(parts you seen goes on defund the police. okay, fine. w(parts america] goes on defund the police. okay, fine. w(parts america where, goes on defund the police. okay, fine. w(parts america where, you on in parts of america where, you know, just total know, there's just total lawlessness a result of some lawlessness as a result of some of these idiots being given the reins of power ? reins of power? >> yeah. i mean, you would think the are an abject failure the police are an abject failure the police are an abject failure the reported upon. but the way it's reported upon. but we need remember one thing. we need to remember one thing. the full, so we're the prisons are full, so we're actually thinking sending actually thinking about sending prisoners abroad house them. prisoners abroad to house them. and wasn't rspca who put and it wasn't the rspca who put them there. it was the police . them there. it was the police. and even with our faltering court system, which is struggling, the police are still deaung struggling, the police are still dealing thing. but you are correct, you dealing thing. but you are correct , you know, dealing thing. but you are correct, you know, and just right . just let me interest that right. just let me interest that point on stop and search young black youths are probably 6 to 8 times more likely to be stopped and searched in london, but

they're 30 times more likely to be stabbed to death predominant by young black youths. the police are not foolish. they're actually quite well educated, most of them. and they do use their intelligence and they are intelligence led in what they do. the intelligence tells do. and the intelligence tells them it's mainly kids who them it's mainly black kids who are killing black kids. it's no surprise . surprise. >> read the news headline. >> read the news headline. >> we at the victims on >> we look at the victims on your the newspaper . your show in the newspaper. >> black kids look exactly . >> the black kids look exactly. exactly. and this is the thing. look, thank very look, kevin, thank you very much. there, former much. kevin hurley there, former head terrorism the head of counter terrorism at the city | city of london. police now, i just finish with just wanted to finish with patrick's of the day, which patrick's pick of the day, which is think, an unusual story. is i think, an unusual story. it's just find something it's where i just find something that you might have it's where i just find something that okay. u might have it's where i just find something that okay. so night have it's where i just find something that okay. so sources ve it's where i just find something that okay. so sources have missed. okay. so sources have claimed that football fans are missed. okay. so sources have clibe ed that football fans are missed. okay. so sources have clibe allowed. )otball fans are missed. okay. so sources have clibe allowed. definitelys are missed. okay. so sources have clibe allowed. definitely to re to be allowed. definitely to dnnk to be allowed. definitely to drink alcohol if saudi arabia wins their bid to host the world cup in 2034. and if there's one country you can trust to keep to their word, it will be saudi arabia. okay the consumption and sale of alcohol is against the

law in the muslim majority country. but this could mean allowing booze to be sold in hotels and restricted fan zones . okay. i mean, just a few points on this. when the qatar world cup was very controversially awarded to qatar , they ended up saying thing right at the last minute, didn't they, that there was going to be increased restrictions on where booze could think i'm booze could be. i think i'm right that there was right in saying that there was a massive with budweiser. massive problem with budweiser. who tournament's one of who were the tournament's one of the sponsors the tournament's major sponsors there? you know, i don't really think, though , that the idea of think, though, that the idea of booze being allowed on the streets of saudi arabia is the biggest issue about awarding another world cup potentially to another world cup potentially to a country where, you know, if you're gay , probably pretty you're gay, probably pretty legitimate to throw you off a building or stone, you to death. you know, the human rights cesspit is saudi arabia, cesspit that is saudi arabia, the of slaves, the massive the use of slaves, the massive geopolitical concerns that take place over there. mean, are we place over there. i mean, are we seriously considering launching

a new world cup in 2034 in saudi arabia ? i find it very, very arabia? i find it very, very concerning . the problem with it, concerning. the problem with it, though , is that we've had though, is that we've had footballers, haven't we? like jordan henderson? yes. put a rainbow armband on, won't he? or come out. i'm i'm an ally for this. i'm an ally for that. and then, you know , when the person then, you know, when the person comes calling with the big check andits comes calling with the big check and it's towards the end of your career and you think oh, career and you think that, oh, maybe already maybe i haven't already made enough millions. after a glittering in the premier glittering career in the premier league and champions league league and the champions league and right at thick end and and right at the thick end and loads in the bank, now loads of money in the bank, now i enough i haven't got quite enough there. to saudi there. i'm going to go to saudi arabia. cash it in. arabia. i'm going to cash it in. and what they do is sportswash countries abominable countries with abominable human rights near international nowhere near the international stage these stage when it comes to these projects. they shouldn't be allowed. , really allowed. i don't think, really to and promote to actually go and promote themselves. but if they are going to do that, if you're going to do that, if you're going to do that, if you're going to have football players who are doing that, then maybe we all just need to up we all just need to shut up about human being an about human rights being an issue can't issue in sports. you can't really it both ways. you really have it both ways. you can't take the knee and go really have it both ways. you can' playe the knee and go

really have it both ways. you can' play in1e knee and go really have it both ways. you can' play in a knee and go really have it both ways. you can' play in a country1d go really have it both ways. you can' play in a country where go and play in a country where there's injustice everywhere. et cetera. either take the knee and don't go or don't take the knee and then shut up about it or but i'm just going to finish by delving into the world of my inbox. vaiews@gbnews.com a lot of reaction to that report that we did there. update for you we did there. an update for you from migrant hotel in from that welsh migrant hotel in kollanahalli jean's been what kollanahalli jean's been on what people most angry about is people are most angry about is that right next door to the hotel a park where children hotel is a park where children piay hotel is a park where children play if of these play. and if a lot of these young come, then fear young men come, then they fear that children not that women and children will not be how times, jean, be safe. how many times, jean, do , whether it's a do we see this, whether it's a nursery school, whether it's a park old park or whether it's an old people's home, it always seems like there are vulnerable people, next to these people, right next to these sites who are completely forgotten would not forgotten about. you would not want it, would you, if you had your elderly relative in a care home? very home? and they were very vulnerable and then of vulnerable and then all of a suddenit vulnerable and then all of a sudden it emerged were sudden it emerged that they were going 500 young men going to be 500 young men plonked in a building next plonked in a building right next to care home with no to that care home with no barriers walls, really barriers or walls, really stopping from doing stopping them from doing whatever . you wouldn't stopping them from doing whatever. you wouldn't happy whatever. you wouldn't be happy about you? the about that, would you? the people these decisions people who make these decisions

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>> who is your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office this weekend is going to be of contrast across the uk be one of contrast across the uk . is charge . high pressure is in charge across south, importing heat across the south, importing heat from north africa and iberia really very for the really turning very warm for the time year. this trailing time of year. but this trailing frontal system across scotland is to be providing much is going to be providing much wetter . wetter conditions. >> it will eventually clear off parts of northern ireland, northern england throughout this evening out evening and then stall out across areas of scotland. >> repeatedly, heavy rain over nights, elsewhere, generally staying largely dry. some clear spells in there. but most of us seeing relatively mild conditions to start saturday morning 14 c. this rain morning around 14 c. this rain then will be heavy and persistent throughout saturday. and there is an amber weather warning in force. the potential for flooding and disruption is expected and there could even be some landslides where we see totals really totting up 180mm in some spots for northern ireland, wales and england, though it will be a largely dry day, some sunshine, particularly across the southeast, generally hazier of hazier skies for parts of northern wales and northern england, wales and northern ireland. >> temperatures climbing

>> but temperatures climbing towards 23 c into sunday. >> the rain across scotland will gradually clear its way northwards . northwards. >> still some heavy outbursts across initially northern areas, eventually the northern eventually reaching the northern isles later but again, for isles later on. but again, for northern ireland, wales and england dry day this england are largely dry day this time best of sunshine time the best of the sunshine off towards the south—west eastern may that eastern areas may stay that bit cloudier . cloudier. >> further rain into parts of the north—west as we head towards part of the

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