emily carver and for the i'm emily carver and for the next three hours, i'll be keeping you company on your tv, onune keeping you company on your tv, online and digital radio. so coming up, we are at war. those are the words of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu as fighters from the military group hamas launched an unprecedented attack israel . we'll bring attack on israel. we'll bring you the very latest as it happens. and then nigel farage and richard tice are expected to speak at 1230 at the reform uk party conference in london. we'll be going there live, so stay tuned for that . and with stay tuned for that. and with the smoking ban and labour's plan toothbrushing lessons , plan for toothbrushing lessons, i know, are we becoming i want to know, are we becoming a is this the way a nanny state or is this the way to the nhs? please do get to save the nhs? please do get in touch. send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com. message me on all our socials. we're at gb news, but first let's get the news headlines with tamzin . emily >> thank you and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's 12:00. the prime minister , rishi 12:00. the prime minister, rishi sunak says he's shocked by this

morning's attacks in israel and that the country has an absolute right to defend itself . right to defend itself. thousands of rockets were fired from the gaza strip in a surprise attack by the hamas militant group. this video shows palestinians using a bulldozer to break through a fence separating gaza with southern israel as gunshots are heard in the distance. israel defence minister said hamas has launched a war and its troops were fighting against the enemy at every location. local news has reported israeli civilians barricading themselves in their homes in border towns near gaza, pleading for help in a televised message, the police chief told residents to stay put and that we will get to you all. israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu , who says his country netanyahu, who says his country will win this war as israel and hamas citizens of israel , we are

hamas citizens of israel, we are at war, not in an operation or in rounds, but at war. >> this morning, hamas launched a murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens . we have been in its citizens. we have been in this since the early morning hours. i convened the heads of security and ordered, first of to all, clear out the communities that have been infiltrated by terrorists as well . well. >> earlier, i spoke to con coughun >> earlier, i spoke to con coughlin , the defence editor at coughlin, the defence editor at the daily telegraph , who says he the daily telegraph, who says he expects a strong response from israel at that the palestinian militants seemed to have taken some israelis hostage. >> the israeli media's reporting that 35 israelis have been taken hostage. i mean, this this is an enormous security failure by the israeli defence forces . and i israeli defence forces. and i think israeli prime minister netanyahu will be determined to respond very strongly against this. and i think you can expect to see a lot of israeli military activity targeting hamas

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pictures coming out of gaza . pictures coming out of gaza. now. joining me to discuss this is tel aviv based journalist natalie blend. natalie, thank you very much indeed for joining me today . i really appreciate me today. i really appreciate your time . me today. i really appreciate your time. now, as i me today. i really appreciate your time . now, as i understand, your time. now, as i understand, your time. now, as i understand, you were woken up this morning by the sound of a siren. can you explain what happened? yes, absolutely . well, i was asleep absolutely. well, i was asleep in bed and i think around 730, i just heard the sound of the air raid alert siren, which which pierced the air, woke me up, sent me to the shelter. i'm very fortunate. i live in a new building. so just behind me, just out of shop, is a bedroom that doubles as a safe room. and i was able to set that up. barricade myself inside with the person who was sleeping in there, who was actually here on houday there, who was actually here on holiday sweden. so holiday from sweden. so absolutely with absolutely nothing to do with the conflict. >> she and i sheltered in >> and she and i sheltered in there for 5 minutes or 10 minutes until was safe to minutes until it was safe to come . come out. >> now, it sounds a silly question, but how

question, natalie, but how do you feel? i actually feel okay at the moment. i'm trying to practise the kind of moment by moment reaction to this and not get kind of scared by the headlines. but my upper lip is trembling and my legs are trembling, so obviously not trembling, so obviously it's not a normal, normal day. and the news is obviously terrible and i'm fortunate that i'm in i'm very fortunate that i'm in tel where i'm further away tel aviv where i'm further away from , so i'm in as much from gaza, so i'm not in as much immediate danger, but for what's happening for the communities closer gaza, really, closer to gaza, it's really, really situation really quite terrible situation . yes. natalie, you have of . yes. natalie, do you have of friends and family who you've beenin friends and family who you've been in contact with who are closer to where the attack is happening? yeah. i mean, i don't personally know. i know one personally know. i know one person that lives very close to gaza in a community called zikim, but it's a case of like, i don't want to drive mad texting to check they're okay because it's wonderful that people check in. but it's also somewhat aggravating . so i'm somewhat aggravating. so i'm just kind of getting my news the same way as everyone else. i have an app on my phone from the

home front command, which is supposed to beep and tell you when need take shelter. when you need to take shelter. but you know, a lot of it in this day and age seeing this day and age is seeing videos social media and videos on social media and seeing networks put seeing news news networks put out that they sent. out footage that they get sent. and it's quite stressful seeing this kind of footage. i mean, we've today we've seen pictures today of these the these jeeps going down the street in a town called sderot with full of hamas terrorists with full of hamas terrorists with mean, with enormous guns. i mean, i don't describe it in don't want to describe it in case there's children listening to it's the to this. you know, it's the things see on border are things you see on the border are playing reality. yes. and playing out in reality. yes. and benjamin netanyahu , israeli benjamin netanyahu, israeli prime minister, has come out strongly. he says we are at war and we will win, presumably. strongly. he says we are at war and we will win, presumably . you and we will win, presumably. you have watched his statement. what else did he say to the israeli people ? he said that this is a people? he said that this is a war, this is not an operation. right. because sometimes when rockets are sent, there's a kind of brief operation which we deal with that. but he's saying that this is a war not around a fighting. and he describes it as by saying hamas initiated a

murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens . and it's worth its citizens. and it's worth also pointing out that whilst israel's been having a lot of problems recently, internal internal fighting in the government, that all the members of the opposition have come together this morning and said in this, there is no in days like this, there is no opposition and no coalition in israel. one nation and israel. we are one nation and everyone of uniting everyone is now sort of uniting to formulate a response . this to formulate a response. this isn't a time for infighting within the government. yes. and it's worth noting that here in the uk, the prime minister and also the leader of the labour party , the opposition, have come party, the opposition, have come out strongly to support israel and its right to defend itself. are you concerned that this came as a surprise as to the prime minister in israel and to the israeli defence force? it's it seems to me that there may well be some kind of intelligence failure. well, potentially a colossal intelligence failure . colossal intelligence failure. yeah, i think like it's definitely a surprise, but it's

a surprise if it's not a surprise in that yesterday they marked, i believe, 50 years since the yom kippur war, which was also a surprise for it's kind of gone down in history. and it's sort of like a story that gets told every so often. yom kippur was being the day of atonement, and there was a very big war. that's part of the israeli military story israeli military history story now. and yesterday was the anniversary war. so anniversary of that war. so perhaps should have perhaps there should have been some that the some understanding that the enemies unite try and enemies may unite to try and create a of reprise of that create a sort of reprise of that and an encore, as it were. it is and an encore, as it were. it is a failure of intelligence. and i think that even if hamas is saying this is in response to events in jerusalem at the al—aqsa mosque yesterday , i al—aqsa mosque yesterday, i don't think anything massive happened. they don't like it happened. but they don't like it when jewish go there when jewish worshippers go there and some did go there. okay, and some did go there. so, okay, fine. but this took planning. this coordinated attack . rs this is a coordinated attack. rs 2200 rockets and these militants who have stormed communities and somehow got from gaza to the other side into israel, this is not something you just do in

response to something that happened afternoon . happened yesterday afternoon. this planned. so, yes, it's this is planned. so, yes, it's been intelligence been a failure of intelligence and but but when you use the word failure in that context, it puts blame on israel, like puts the blame on israel, like israel has failed to know about it. also hamas, without it. but also hamas, without certainly to do this. certainly no right to do this. this against all the rules this goes against all the rules of war. i was reading that there is a convention you fight is a convention how you fight wars you do like wars and you don't do it like this. yes. in terms of the israeli response, difficult to say, but how do you how do you see israel acting going fonnard? retaliation an are you concerned that this could escalate into other areas of the region ? yes other areas of the region? yes there is concern it can escalate. i think initially we'll we need they need to focus on securing those communities that you were talking about in the report earlier. so they need to focus on making sure the citizens are safe. and there's been quite horrifying been some quite horrifying stories a woman stories coming out from a woman who her safe room, which who was in her safe room, which is a sort of bomb shelter and she said that there's terrorists roaming and she roaming around with guns and she

and children in this and her children are in this room and they're scared to breathe so initially, room and they're scared to breatiasking, so initially, room and they're scared to breatiasking, whyso initially, room and they're scared to breatiasking, why has1itially, room and they're scared to breatiasking, why has itially, room and they're scared to breatiasking, why has it taken she's asking, why has it taken four hours for us to be made safe? so, first of all, the military to these military need to secure these communities, the communities, get rid of the terrorists from and get terrorists from there and get the people and at the same the people out and at the same time, probably time, they'll probably will launch strikes launch retaliatory strikes to gaza, which, know, will be gaza, which, you know, will be to out the rocket launching to take out the rocket launching equipment, because the fact that they were to send so many they were able to send so many rockets mean officially we're seeing 2200. but i've seeing saying 2200. but i've read that hamas say they sent 5000 now i think the 5000 rockets. now i think the intention of that was to over ride or ovennhelm the iron dome. and the iron dome is the defence system that israel has in place to stop the rockets hitting buildings and homes and civilians. so if you send 5000, you're looking to overpower that . so israel needs to try and disable that equipment so that they can no longer send rockets, which is going to mean a kind of military operation inside of gaza. military operation inside of gaza . that's what it usually gaza. that's what it usually means . natalie. i think i'm means. natalie. i think i'm losing you ever so slightly there, but thank you so much for

your time. and of course, we hope you are safe and well and continue to be so. thank you very much indeed for your time. natalie blanford there, tel aviv, journalist. well aviv, based journalist. well there you go. we will be keeping you up to date on the very latest coming from israel on this massive and unprecedented attack on the country . and now attack on the country. and now we'll be coming back to that throughout the show. but following the lib dems in bournemouth and the tories in manchester, the reform uk party conference kicks off today in london. nigel farage is expected to speak at 1230. we'll be bringing you that live. but what else are we expecting to come from the event? joining me to discuss is gb news deputy discuss this is gb news deputy political editor tom hannood. tom, you were there at the reform party conference. you've been doing the rounds. what's going on there? what can we expect out? >> yes, this is, of course, midway through conference season . we've already heard from the tuc . the green party are having tuc. the green party are having their conference at the moment

as well. we've heard from the lib dems, we've heard from the tories. but this is the reform uk party conference and just now the party leader, richard tice, is on the stage behind me, having welcomed deputy joint deputy leaders ben habib and dr. david bull up onto the stage there, talking, of course, about there, talking, of course, about the year to come and the growth of this party. it was described earlier on by another party figure, alex phillips, as the fastest growing political movement in the united kingdom. this conference is three times the size of the one held by the party in the previous year and certainly in objective numbers . certainly in objective numbers. the party does seem to be doing all right in the polls, up to around 8% in a number of recent polls . but there's an polls. but there's an interesting change that may well be taking place. eagle eyed viewers might see a logo behind me, a brexit party logo. why do i say brexit party logo? because the reform uk party used to be the reform uk party used to be the brexit party. of course. and the brexit party. of course. and the words the brexit party have

been added to this new logo and individual eyes within the party tell me that when it comes to a b testing the slogan reform uk or reform uk hyphen, the brexit party , it's the latter that party, it's the latter that performs higher in polling in test saying this is a slogan with much more name recognition . so it could be that this new, almost rebrand of the party we've seen for the first time today could send the party's polling that bit higher tom, there's lots of cheering coming from the room behind you. >> what's what's on in there at the moment? somewhat. >> well, it's just been the leader of the party, richard tice and ben habib and david bull, up on stage , but ben habib bull, up on stage, but ben habib being announced as a joint deputy leader . clearly some more deputy leader. clearly some more being discussed . what about the being discussed. what about the electoral ambitions of the party and also earlier today, we've heard from howard cox, who is their mayoral candidate here in

london. and also alex phillips, their cultural spokesman. a number of different spokespeople standing up and giving their piece to the around 1000 delegates here at the conference. but i believe they might be just about breaking up for a break in the session. so we might be seeing a flood of people behind me and the applause has died down. there is indeed a flood of people behind you walking out of that main room. >> there. just very quickly, i understand reform party are on about 7 to 10% of the national vote at the moment. if you look at recent polls for the general election , do we have an idea of election, do we have an idea of which constituencies they're going to be really putting a lot of effort into? where are they popular ? popular? >> oh, it's interesting . if you >> oh, it's interesting. if you look at how the brexit party did in 2019, in their single highest polling constituency , a—c was polling constituency, a—c was hartlepool. that is where richard tice himself stood as a brexit party candidate. and

achieved around a third of the vote in that seat. of course, that was then later a by—election in hartlepool, where the conservative party snatched it from the labour party. but i think in reality it's those high brexit voting areas of the country, perhaps areas that are more marginal between the labour party and the conservative party, where reform uk feels like it might have its best chance. they haven't announced a list of top targets yet and of course there are elections that the party is focusing on before the party is focusing on before the general election, not least the general election, not least the london mayoral election, where of course much resource is being placed . and of course the being placed. and of course the candidates . howard cox is taking candidates. howard cox is taking a strong stand against sadiq khan's ulez tax. this is, of course , the next election on the course, the next election on the honzon course, the next election on the horizon and i no doubt will learn more and more about the general election strategy as the weeks and months progress. well, thank you very much indeed for keeping us up to date on all thatis keeping us up to date on all that is on at the reform that is going on at the reform party conference there. >> be taking speeches >> we'll be taking live speeches from farage and richard

from nigel farage and richard tice, leader of the party. thank you very much indeed, tom hannood our deputy hannood there, our deputy political right. moving political editor. right. moving on, keir starmer, that on, starmer, keir starmer, that is, has pledged primary is, has pledged all primary schools have schools in england will have supervised classes schools in england will have su an vised classes schools in england will have su an effort classes schools in england will have su an effort to classes schools in england will have su an effort to tackle classes schools in england will have su an effort to tackle poor:lasses in an effort to tackle poor dental hygiene and away the dental hygiene and chip away the backlog facing nhs dentistry . backlog facing nhs dentistry. along with this, it was also announced this week the government will incrementally ban smoking. that's raising the legal age each year until it is completely illegal to smoke in this country. so it might just be me, but it feels a little bit like we're slowly but surely becoming a little bit of a nanny state. and both of the main parties seems to be seem to be very much on the same track with it. joining me now is head of lifestyle economics at the iea , lifestyle economics at the iea, christopher snowdon, and journalist author kirk journalist and author julie kirk . chris, we're seeing both the. thank you for joining . chris, we're seeing both the. thank you forjoining me. we're thank you for joining me. we're seeing both the labour party and the conservative government very much pursuing the nanny state in terms of authoritarian measures. one might say. so we are looking

at a smoking ban and in incremental right, in the age at which you may purchase cigarettes. what do you say to that ? that? >> oh, it's preposterous and illiberal. it's difficult to know where to start with it, really. one can have a go at it on the basis of its completely unnecessary. it cause all sorts of problems with the black market, the grey market, all sorts of markets. or can sorts of markets. or you can just simple practical just see the simple practical idiocy of it . really. it's the idiocy of it. really. it's the very idea that people . in 15 very idea that people. in 15 years time are going to have to be 35 or whatever to buy cigarettes and people slightly older than them will be able to buy cigarettes. it's obviously not going work. think it's not going to work. i think it's almost to work. so almost designed not to work. so at in the near at some point in the near future, the anti—smoking groups can out look, this can come out and say, look, this isn't really working . let's just isn't really working. let's just ban everybody. ban it for everybody. that's what think that's what they do. i think that's what they do. i think that's what they do. i think that's what they will do. i really do. >> do you say, christopher, >> what do you say, christopher, to idea that this will help to the idea that this will help save the nhs because smoking is

costing the nhs billions of pounds a year and therefore the fewer people that smoke and bans may help with that, the fewer people that smoke , then the people that smoke, then the better off the nhs will be and it will last us decades to come. >> it's complete and utter delusion . rubbish. it's like delusion. rubbish. it's like this . it's delusion. rubbish. it's like this. it's like delusion. rubbish. it's like this . it's like the wicker man this. it's like the wicker man or something, you know, the idiot villagers going after somebody and burning them because the crops have failed the nhs fails for lots of reasons and rather than deal with the problems of the nhs, we just go various people , fat just go various people, fat people and smoking . the evidence people and smoking. the evidence is really, really clear on about this in the economics literature around the world. you know , around the world. you know, billion pounds in tobacco duty, they use less health care over they use less health care over the course of a lifetime because their lifetime and they take less out in pensions. smokers are subsidising non—smokers. people need to get that through their if they really their head if they really they're serious sorting . they're serious about sorting. out. they need to the reforms .

right. >> julie i'll bring you in. do you think that politicians scapegoat smokers and also obese people when they talk about the nhs ? nhs? >> i think they do, but i don't think we can call it state cosy. i think it's just through people who smoke die younger. they likely to get disease, they cost the nhs money. you know, all these things are obvious from these things are obvious from the fact that we, you know, there was a white paper out that i think 13 people die an hour from smoking in this country. >> so it's a no brainer really, that if we're going to be honest about health and care about health now and health care in we need to look at in the nhs, we need to look at who's it, required who's using it, who's required more help, who dies younger, who who needs and takes from the nhs , and that people who destroy , and that is people who destroy their bodies willingly themselves . themselves. >> as chris just said , he just >> as chris just said, he just said that actually smokers cost the nhs less . it may sound a bit the nhs less. it may sound a bit morbid, but they die younger, so therefore need less care over

therefore need less care over the length of their lives is oh, i've lost you. >> i can't hear you. >> i can't hear you. >> oh, i'm sorry. we'll go back to chris. let's hope we can get juue to chris. let's hope we can get julie back on on the line there . christopher, are you concerned with this announcement or this planned announcement from labour on toothbrushing supervised tooth brushing ? because some tooth brushing? because some people say, well, you know, back in the day we used to have a bit of this. scotland is doing it too. and if kids aren't brushing their teeth at home, then the state should step in and help them with that. what do you think? >> well, teaching young children to do things, i don't think you call nanny statism. you know, nanny state ism is when you treat adults like children. i haven't seen the details of the tooth doesn't tooth brushing plan. it doesn't seem to be such a very bad seem to me to be such a very bad idea. afraid there are idea. i'm afraid there are children have terrible children who have terrible parents them to brush their encourage them to brush their teeth. certainly learning to brush your would be much brush your teeth would be much more than a lot of more useful than a lot of rubbish. people get taught in primary so i've seen primary school, so i've seen a lot right wingers dunking on lot of right wingers dunking on starmer this, but starmer for suggesting this, but

let's remember the tory solution to tooth decay to put a tax to tooth decay was to put a tax on sugary drinks. the tory policy is far more top down. you know, big government nanny state and a lot of labour is pennsylvania . we should actually pennsylvania. we should actually be pretty conservative to educate people. >> that's interesting. so >> well, that's interesting. so vaguely supportive, broadly supportive of the idea of supersize tooth brushing for 3 to 5 year olds from christopher. there julie, what do you think? because the head teacher association out quite association has come out quite strongly this should not strongly to say this should not be a priority. teachers have other things to worry about. they're there to supervise they're not there to supervise the tooth brushing your the tooth brushing of your children. what do you think? >> well, this is where >> yeah, well, this is where i agree with the teachers. i really think that teachers have far more important things to do than worrying about i than worrying about teeth. i also think that they are ovennorked as it is. they're doing longer hours than ever. and think brushing and i don't think teeth brushing is part of their domain when they enter the education world. i also think if you're a parent, this is one of the basic things you should be able to do for

your children. it goes along with getting washed with getting them washed and dressed morning, feeding dressed in the morning, feeding them their them breakfast, brushing their teeth. a no teeth. it's kind of a no brainer. i don't see why we need to patronising teachers and to be patronising teachers and parents regarding this. >> we go. >> well, there we go. two different that one. different views on on that one. chris, you think you study chris, do you think you study the nanny state and you've written all sorts of papers and reports on this. do you think it's in our human nature to want to that disapprove to ban things that we disapprove of or ban things that we don't do ourselves because the smoking this announcement on smoking is going down, quite popular when you look at the polling . you look at the polling. >> yeah , this part of human >> yeah, this part of human nature, it does seem to me that a significant minority of people at any one time do have this instinct of trying to get people to live the way they want you to be. and i'm not sure where that comes from. you don't really harbour such feelings myself, but it genuinely has been a minority. but with this issue, yeah, you're right. it is a majority according to the polls

, particularly amongst conservative voters. as you know, 60, 70, 80% are in favour of this. but then you have to remember that nobody who's voting in these polls is going to be affected by this at all, or at least they think they won't, because the idea is that existing smokers will be able to carry smoking. i don't think carry on smoking. i don't think that happen practise. that will happen in practise. but, have been but, you know, people have been sold in a but the sold a pig in a poke. but the point everybody who's voting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese everybody who's voting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese polls,)ody who's voting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese polls, you who's voting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese polls, you haves voting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese polls, you have to oting sold a pig in a poke. but the pothese polls, you have to be|g in these polls, you have to be 18 to take part in these surveys is going to be affected in is not going to be affected in the slightest. the people whose liberty to be liberty is going to be restrained either restrained by this either haven't been born or they're haven't been born yet or they're not 18. so unfortunately, there haven't been born yet or they're not 1elot) unfortunately, there haven't been born yet or they're not 1elot of nfortunately, there haven't been born yet or they're not 1elot of people ately, there haven't been born yet or they're not 1elot of people who. there haven't been born yet or they're not 1elot of people who areere are a lot of people who are quite take away other quite happy to take away other people's freedoms. >> all we've >> i'm sorry. that's all we've got for. but you very got time for. but thank you very much both of your much indeed for both of your views. that's christopher snowdon the institute of snowdon from the institute of economic of economic affairs, head of lifestyle there, and lifestyle economics there, and journalist author julie journalist and author julie cook. much indeed cook. thank you very much indeed for we got through for your time. we got through quite lot there quite a lot there from toothbrushing to smoking ban to whether to ban things whether wanting to ban things that just that other people do is just part of our human nature, or at least seems part of least it seems to be part of politicians is human nature.

yes. you're in favour of yes. if you're in favour of this, i'm there are people this, i'm sure there are people who smokers who are in who are smokers who are in favour because it favour of this ban because it won't them that are impacted. won't be them that are impacted. but we all know how but then again, we all know how bad our health smoking is. bad for our health smoking is. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, emily carver. let me know what you think about that one. we've got lots more coming on today's lots more coming up on today's show. nigel farage will be opening the reform uk party conference place conference that's taking place in today. be in london today. we'll be speaking straight after the speaking live straight after the break. that to break. all of that and more to come. you're

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radio. hello. good afternoon. >> it's 1230. radio. hello. good afternoon. >> it's1230. i'm tamsin roberts in the newsroom . the prime in the newsroom. the prime minister, rishi sunak, says he's shocked by this morning's attacks in israel and that the country has an absolute right to defend itself. if thousands of rockets were fired from the gaza strip. in a surprise attack by the hamas militant group, this video shows palestinians using a bulldozer to break through a fence separating gaza with southern israel as gunshots are heard in the distance. israel's defence minister said hamas has launched a war and its troops were fighting against the enemy at every location , local news at every location, local news has reported israeli civilians barricading themselves in their homes in border towns near gaza, pleading for help . in pleading for help. in a televised message, the police chief told residents to stay put . we will get to you all. meanwhile israel's prime

minister, benjamin netanyahu says his country will win this war as israel and hamas citizens of israel , we are at war, not in of israel, we are at war, not in an operation or in rounds, but at war. >> this morning, hamas launched a murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens . we have been in its citizens. we have been in this since the early morning hours. i convened the heads of security and ordered , first of security and ordered, first of all, to clear out the communities that have been infiltrated by terrorists . infiltrated by terrorists. >> earlier, i spoke to con coughun >> earlier, i spoke to con coughlin , the defence editor at coughlin, the defence editor at the daily telegraph, who says israel's been taken by surprise. backed that the palestinian militants seemed to have taken some israelis hostage. >> the israeli media's reporting that 35 israelis have been taken hostage. i mean, this this is an enormous security failure by the israeli defence forces. and i think israeli prime minister netanyahu will be determined to

respond very strongly against this. and i think you can expect to see a lot of israeli military activity targeting hamas strongholds in the gaza strip thatis strongholds in the gaza strip that is the latest on israel. >> we'll of course, keep you up to date with this story. that's all from me for now . now it's all from me for now. now it's back to . emily back to. emily >> thank you. tamzin and welcome back to gb news saturday. i'm emily carver. it has just gone 1230. so today is the party conference for reform uk with a speech expected from honorary president and gb news host nigel farage, followed by the party leader richard tice. so as soon as those speeches begin , we'll as those speeches begin, we'll be throwing straight to them and getting reaction straight off the back. but joining me now, he needs no introduction , but it is needs no introduction, but it is the deputy political editor , tom the deputy political editor, tom hannood, with us, who is hannood, who is with us, who is down conference hall down at the conference hall there. tom reform uk as we know

it, anti—net zero pro border control and echr nigel farage just 13 minutes ago. poll posting on his twitter feed on his feed only reform party uk is serious about leaving the echr to complete the brexit process. is that going to be the main talking point? >> it certainly is one of the large talking points and of course there was a lot of speculation around nigel farage in manchester last week or earlier this week, i should say, when nigel farage was parading around the conservative party conference for the first time in 30 years. well, today it seems perhaps coming back home, the reform party, of course, is born out of the brexit party, which nigel farage founded in 2019. it went on to win the european elections. of course , and elections. of course, and changed the course of how the brexit process really went. with theresa may announcing her

resignation on not long after those european election results came through , the conservatives came through, the conservatives came through, the conservatives came fifth in those elections, with many , many natural with many, many natural conservative voters turning to the predecessor of this party. but since then, this party has been under a bit of a face change, a brand shift. it's turned itself into reform uk , turned itself into reform uk, which, whilst it has less name recognition than the brexit party, it still is bumbling around 8% in the polls, which is not to be sniffed at and is certainly nipping at the heels of rishi sunak. certainly if you speak to people here at this conference today, they believe the power of reform uk is what has been pressuring rishi sunak into some of his policy reversals in recent weeks, not least the prime minister's about turn on net zero targets, but also perhaps some of his more fervent cultural language in manchester on wednesday where he was speaking about transgender

issues in a more forthright way than i think perhaps we've ever heard him speak before. so certainly people here at the reform uk conference believe this party has influence, although speaking to people at the top of the party, they believe that this party could be doing more , it could be polling doing more, it could be polling better . there were the name better. there were the name recognition higher. there's a general admission that the brexit party as a name , as brexit party as a name, as a brand, was a much stronger brand than reform uk. it had far higher name recognition across the united kingdom than the more amorphous and less defined words. reform the uk. and so today what has happened is a bit of a brand leading change for this new party. no longer does the logo just say reform form uk it now says reform uk . the it now says reform uk. the brexit party bringing back those three words on to the logo . so three words on to the logo. so just at the bottom perhaps to

give a little reminder to potential voters in local elections this may and also perhaps in a general election in the autumn, that this is the successor movement to the brexit party and insiders in the party tell me that adding those words reform uk, the brexit party signifies increases the name recognition and the polling level of this party. when they've tested it now reform uk. >> we just saw pictures there while you were speaking of nigel farage being accosted or interviewed by owen jones, the guardian columnist who who tends to make a video every year at conservative party conference. and of course, he spoke to nigel farage, who gave him quite a bit of time to talk about what he wanted to there. it was quite funny at the time. i saw it in person in terms of reform uk and its relationship with the conservative party. they are a bit of a thorn in the side. are

they not? they're polling at about 7% to 10% at the moment. could make it more likely than it is now that labour get into power. in terms of stealing some of that conservative vote . of that conservative vote. >> that's always been the conservative criticism of parties like the brexit party in the 2019 general election, like ukip in 2015, like reform uk. now, however , what the now, however, what the individuals behind these three parties have always said and each successive election is that without this sort of movement, the conservative party would be drifting even further away from conservative principles . and conservative principles. and certainly listening to the speech of alex phillips, the culture spokesman of reform uk, a little bit earlier on this morning , she was saying that the morning, she was saying that the conservative party has been presiding over cultural decline andits presiding over cultural decline and it's right to be challenging that party. in fact, many supporters uk would like to see nothing more than the

conservative party be turfed out of power. whether or not that makes it more likely that the labour party would get in and most psephologists would say yes. that does make it more likely that labour gets in. there'll be many people here that say, well, what's the that would say, well, what's the difference ? of the difference? yes, of course the conservative conference in conservative party conference in manchester was manchester earlier this week was trying emphasise that there trying to emphasise that there is a clear difference , that is a clear difference, that there is a greater difference between the conservative party and the labour party than there was perhaps this time last year and perhaps it is the strength in polling, the eight or so % in polling, the eight or so% that the reform party is grabbing in these polls that has influenced some of these position changes from rishi sunak. >> now it looks like nigel farage is going to turn up fashionably late, but as we can see, that hall is starting to fill up very quickly indeed. there was a woman just behind you dancing and trying to get on the so that was that was the camera. so that was that was nice. alex phillips, you mentioned her. made a speech mentioned her. she made a speech earlier. did earlier. what did she concentrate? she talking concentrate? what is she talking

about? things like british history being denigrate . was she history being denigrate. was she talking about things like the removal of statues? was she talking about transgender issues? what did she have to say ? >> there was a big focus on gender issues. there was a big focus on online issues . focus on online issues. surprisingly, perhaps . alex surprisingly, perhaps. alex phillips said that she was in support of the online safety bill. this online harms agenda and the age verification an mandates coming in for certain adult content online. that was a strong line in her speech. it might surprise some members of this party, given it has a bit of a libertarian streak in it. but clearly the there was a strong line of cultural conservatism of quote unquote, family values. and of course , a family values. and of course, a big emphasis in what that alex phillips was describing as the

sort of moral decline line of the conservative party. now, i suppose that's open to interpretation, but certainly a lot of emphasis there on family , on relationships, on gender and on the access to explicit material online. >> so yeah, well, thank you very much. we'll be coming back to you when nigel farage does appear, you when nigel farage does appear , but i'm going to get the appear, but i'm going to get the opinion. thank you, tom. i'm going to get the opinion of matthew stadlen here, political commentator. you for commentator. thank you for joining afternoon. so commentator. thank you for joini|take afternoon. so commentator. thank you for joini|take on afternoon. so commentator. thank you for joini|take on whatzrnoon. so commentator. thank you for joini|take on what you've so commentator. thank you for joini|take on what you've just your take on what you've just heard there? >> well, i thought was >> well, i thought that was excellent analysis. >> tom in terms of the >> this from tom in terms of the significance of this this gathering of reform uk, the brexit party, as it's now as it's now naming itself, i think the biggest thing is that nigel farage is opening the conference. >> and why is that important? it's important because it puts into some extra context . nigel into some extra context. nigel farage is appearance at the conservative party conference. he almost took over. he generated so many of the

headlines. a big story that i think perhaps even initiated by patrick christys here at gb news is would the tories welcome nigel farage into their midst? and the fact that rishi sunak equivocated was very significant . they will be desperate that farage does not throw his considerable weight behind reform uk. why? because that would drain some of the votes from the conservatives . now my from the conservatives. now my analysis and i'm very distant from what reform uk stands for as a person, but my analysis as as a person, but my analysis as a commentator is that i think they won't get many votes at the next election. they are, as we've heard from tom, the inheritors of the brexit party, the brexit party only got 2% of the brexit party only got 2% of the vote at the 2019 general election . i'm not sure how much election. i'm not sure how much it will help them to be rebranding themselves. >> these are. sorry to interrupt you, but these are live pictures of nigel. oh, someone's very happy to have got a photo. see this is what i'm talking about. the status of that man

the celebrity status of that man is on on right, of is huge on on the right, of course. butjust as is huge on on the right, of course. but just as a character in a in our national history, it is indeed. >> there was a poll out a >> there was a poll out just a few days that had reform few days ago that had reform on 5. don't think they will do 5. i don't think they will do well the election , but well at the next election, but where they have big influence is, tom was saying, dragging is, as tom was saying, dragging the conservative party further to the right. i think he's right in his analysis without in his analysis that without reform uk and their campaigning on various culture war issues, i don't i don't think that sunak would have done some of the u—turns that he's made in terms of their electoral significance . yes, i think it's minimal, but i think the conservatives are nonetheless frightened of it. >> and it seems to me and i may be wrong this, but seems be wrong on this, but it seems to me what's important to nigel farage building farage is building that coalition who agree coalition of people who agree with him on certain issues, whether net whether whether it's net zero, whether it's immigration, whether it's the union and the european union. and it doesn't necessarily doesn't matter necessarily whether they're in the conservative or in the conservative party or in the reform party or anywhere else. i mean, we saw him dancing with priti at conservative

priti patel at conservative party conference very much having conversations with people regardless of party. >> yeah, indeed. >> yeah, indeed. >> nigel farage and again, i'm very distant from him politically and stand against him in much of what he stands for. >> don't worry, no one thinks you are. but. >> but as an analyst, of course, he is a brilliant campaign donor and he can bring a lot of people with him. however, he has himself stood as an mp 7 or 8 times and failed on every single occasion . and i think reform uk occasion. and i think reform uk will fail at the next election. it's about their influence. >> they've just been asked to take their seats. this is an old footage you're seeing from the conservative party conference. i believe we go to the reform believe we can go to the reform conference now . not ready quite conference now. not ready quite yet, but we are expecting, if you're just joining us now, we are expecting nigel to farage take to the stage and talk to the delegates there at the reform party conference. lots of big there that you may big names there that you may well have heard of. you may well support alex phillips, who is their culture representative.

she was talking earlier about what she sees as cultural decline of the country under the conservatives also ben habib, richard tice, of course, the leader will be hearing from him later , which i'm sure he needs later, which i'm sure he needs no introduction. and other big names like belinda de lucy. so matthew , do you think i mean, matthew, do you think i mean, i'm just looking at our inbox here and there are a lot of people who have lost faith in the conservative party . and i've the conservative party. and i've got a message here from john who says reform are the only party that can save the country. i'm sick of all the lies from the main parties. it does seem that there are a lot of people , all there are a lot of people, all who are thoroughly disappointed in both parties , as i think in both parties, as i think that's undoubtedly true. >> the scale of that i'm not convinced about as i said in this recent poll, just 5% throwing their weight behind reform . reform. >> right. i'm sorry to interrupt you once more, matthew, but i think nigel farage is just

getting his introduction, so we'll be going to him in just one moment. i believe, if i'm getting that right . oh, we can getting that right. oh, we can keep talking for a little longer. he's making his way through the through the crowd as you listed some of those names, like ben habib. >> i'm not sure that these people are national figures certainly yet , but they appear certainly yet, but they appear regularly on gb news. and we know that gb news has an increasing influence. we know that senior former cabinet members were talking up gb news liz truss was talking up gb news and others as well, including very loudly indeed, very loudly. and in other words, what i'm saying is that these people have a bigger influence than perhaps their national recognition value and the influences i've said is dragging the conservative party further to the right . so if they further to the right. so if they have successes on their terms, i don't think it's about winning seats at the next general election. it is about influencing the party of government, which at the moment is the conservatives and i think that they are doing that.

>> yes, i think that's right. and of course an widdecombe, too. she is the spokesperson on immigration and justice. too. she is the spokesperson on immigration and justice . so you immigration and justice. so you can understand what kind of policy might come an we policy might come from an we hear from her a on this hear from her a lot on this channel and she is still across all of the media talking about these kinds of issues. she is absolutely adamant that the uk should the european court should leave the european court of human rights. >> there is a very big conversation at the moment about the conservative the future of conservative politics in this country. and nigel farage is at the heart of it. and that's been fascinating to see straddle both the to see him straddle both the conservative conference conservative party conference and now the reform uk party conference. as i've said, that is why the tories are slightly panicking about him because they don't want him drain votes at don't want him to drain votes at the next election. >> right? it. matthew >> right? that's it. matthew we have nigel farage taking to have now nigel farage taking to the stage at the reform party conference held in london. are we going live there? i believe we going live there? i believe we are in just one moment. speaking very aslef john cleese i >> all right . all >> all right. all right. >> all right . all right. hello

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love you, babe . we . put mark love you, babe. we. put mark steyn . steyn. >> good morning, everybody . as >> good morning, everybody. as you know from the music , i'm you know from the music, i'm fresh back from . manchester to fresh back from. manchester to where i had a pretty good time. i'm some people got it. it was an extraordinary event. i hadn't been to a conservative conference since the late 1980s and it was astonishing . the and it was astonishing. the response to me was astonishing .

response to me was astonishing. people coming up for selfies and offering me drink after drink. i mean, i mean, some of it was murder. it really was. but i was very struck by the tory activist roots that in a sense , it's roots that in a sense, it's a lost tribe , a lost tribe, lost tribe, a lost tribe, desperate and desperate to believe in something, desperate to believe in somebody. and know they're headed inevitably towards a very big defeat at the next general election . so a big next general election. so a big defeat . but what was so defeat. but what was so interesting was not what was said on the stage, but what wasn't said on the stage . oh, on wasn't said on the stage. oh, on stage we had suella braverman on. you know, she talks about invasions. she talks about hurricanes and all of those things. but actually, did she offer any solutions ? and rishi

offer any solutions? and rishi sunak , as allison pearson so sunak, as allison pearson so correctly said in the telegraph , if you'd asked people for their top 25 priorities banning smoking . which let me assure smoking. which let me assure you, i am not in favour of and rejigging a—levels wouldn't even have been in the top 25. maybe not even in the top 50. so whilst it was very nice to be welcomed by their delegates in the way that i was , and whilst the way that i was, and whilst it was generous of the prime minister , when asked the minister, when asked the question by christopher hope now of . gb question by christopher hope now of. gb news question by christopher hope now of . gb news to say, question by christopher hope now of. gb news to say, oh question by christopher hope now of . gb news to say, oh well, you of. gb news to say, oh well, you know , the conservative party is know, the conservative party is a broad church , so perhaps we a broad church, so perhaps we could welcome nigel in as a member once again after 30 years of the conservative party. so

i've come this morning . to bring i've come this morning. to bring you my decision . and i don't you my decision. and i don't want to spoil your day or anything like that . the very anything like that. the very thought that i would rejoin a party who . we as the brexit party who. we as the brexit party helped in the most astonishing way . and we did it. astonishing way. and we did it. we did it . we did it. >> we did it within six weeks of launching by winning that european election in 2019. >> and getting rid of one of the worst prime ministers in british history. theresa may .

history. theresa may. she still seems to want to hang around. goodness only knows why . and we goodness only knows why. and we did it by pushing the brexit agenda. boris johnson would never have become prime minister had it not been for the efforts of this movement and this party. no question . and somewhat no question. and somewhat controversially , perhaps i was controversially, perhaps i was very, very generous to him in that general election in 2019 and some of you agree with it and some of you agree with it and some of you agree with it and some of you didn't agree with it. and that's what life's like. you have to make decisions as a leader and stand by them . i as a leader and stand by them. i still believe that the idea of a liberal democrat and jeremy corbyn coalition and a second referendum would not have put the country in a good place . so

the country in a good place. so maybe rishi thought, the country in a good place. so maybe rishi thought , given that maybe rishi thought, given that i'd been so nice to them . at the i'd been so nice to them. at the end of 2019 that i could be tempted to rejoin a party that has betrayed , made many of those has betrayed, made many of those brexit promises. maybe he thought i could be generous to a party that has seen legal, let alone illegal immigration, reach record levels . maybe he thought record levels. maybe he thought i could be generous to a party who've just put up corporation tax on our small businesses rose by 30% and refused to review the ir35 rules . maybe he thought ir35 rules. maybe he thought i could be generous to a party who locked us down three times wholly unnecessary . billy with wholly unnecessary. billy with a long term health cost to this country that will prove to be ruinous . maybe he thought i was ruinous. maybe he thought i was going to be generous to a party that has now become a social democrat party in all but name. big state, high tax control of

every aspect of your life , every aspect of your life, virtually indistinguishable , virtually indistinguishable, frankly, from starmer's labour party. well, i've come today to give my answer . very very sweet give my answer. very very sweet of you, prime minister , but i'm of you, prime minister, but i'm really sorry. the answer is no. i will . i will. not so my efforts and my work will be solidly behind richard tice and reform uk. make no doubt about that . by the way about that. by the way, you may not know this , but i'm not a big

not know this, but i'm not a big fan of the british banks . what a fan of the british banks. what a campaign that's been. and it's barely started. but what you may not know is that metro bank are now in real trouble . their share now in real trouble. their share price is down 99% from the peak and they're in desperate trouble . and i should, of course , be . and i should, of course, be generous of heart and say that i'm sorry for the travails of metro bank. do you know metro bank gave notice this on the brexit party's bank accounts foreclosed on us , told us foreclosed on us, told us immediately they would not do business for our party, put us into the most precarious position two years ago. so i'm sorry, metro bank, what goes around comes around .

maybe. >> yeah , maybe that'll teach him >> yeah, maybe that'll teach him political de—banking is not a very good idea, particularly when still a majority of this country actually are good common sense people. >> now look, if i'm good at one thing, i'm not good at very many. but if i'm good at one thing, i'm good at spotting gaps in the market and right now there is the most almighty gap in the uk political market. it's enormous . this party has been enormous. this party has been bubbung enormous. this party has been bubbling away . quietly just bubbling away. quietly just under the radar . it feels to me under the radar. it feels to me a little bit like ukip was back in 2012 2013, not being talked about much, but quite slowly,

solidly , organically, growing in solidly, organically, growing in support candidates and the calibre of people that want to stand for it . and so actually stand for it. and so actually for us to be already at 8% in the polls and with the rather excellent but genuine and sincere howard cox leading our campaign in london and what a great job he's doing . i we're great job he's doing. i we're actually making good, solid, steady progress, but we're about as a party to enter into new space as because of what was not said at that at conservative party conference. and what will not be said by sir keir starmer at the labour conference in liverpool this week . for one,

liverpool this week. for one, you'll have noticed that we put brexit back onto the logo we lent brexit to boris johnson and an 80 seat majority and they've had ownership of brexit for all this time . and whilst we may this time. and whilst we may stand taller in the world as a result of brexit and by goodness we do , whether it's the aukus we do, whether it's the aukus deal or leadership, whether you agree or not with it in ukraine domestically , domestically, the domestically, domestically, the reason we won the vote, the reason we won the vote, the reason we won the vote, the reason we turnout was higher than the pundits expected was because people wanted us to take back take control of our borders . and we haven't done that , have . and we haven't done that, have we? we haven't done that. anybody anybody working in small

business assumed and believed that with brexit we'd find ourselves without the same regulatory burden . and in fact, regulatory burden. and in fact, they've barely got rid of any rules at all. and indeed, our own enforcement authorities in many cases are still making life virtually impossible for men and women trying to run their own businesses as they have not delivered on what people's realistic expectation versions of brexit were. now despite that , our gdp is growing more quickly than france's or germany's. even the governor of the bank of england, andrew bailey, or or as he's better known , andrew out to lunch. known, andrew out to lunch. bailey not that i'm against the long lunch, believe me , but long lunch, believe me, but because he's like macavity when there was a crisis, he's not there was a crisis, he's not there . he's out to lunch. even there. he's out to lunch. even he says our financial services sector is better with brexit. it

the opportunities that were offered to us have not been taken. so let's be clear . the taken. so let's be clear. the conservative party is no longer in any way, shape or form the brexit party . we in reform are brexit party. we in reform are taking back the word brexit and we will champion it and the benefits that it can bring to people in this country. it's ours. once again . and the other ours. once again. and the other the other extraordinary thing in the other extraordinary thing in the conference, do you remember a week before the conference suella braverman goes to new york and gives this big defiant speech and talks about the echr and how we might consider we might just possibly consider at some point, maybe if and when that this may not be the right thing for us at which the attorney general directly contradicts . sir, do you know in contradicts. sir, do you know in all of that speech of suella us,

she did not mention even once that the four letter word is echr and rishi sunak. in his speech when he wasn't banning things . and tried to make us all things. and tried to make us all do algebra to the eight of 18. i don't know about you. i simply have bunked off, i think i mean , mind you, i quite often did anyway. but he did not even mention echr. let us be clear. the european convention on human rights backed up by its court in strasbourg, staffed by men and women who in most cases have no legal training whatsoever for, and one of whom decided last year that that plane could not to fly rwanda, was set up with thinking of the late 1940s after the abuses and atrocities that had happened in austria and

germany throughout the 1930s. but it is now completely and hopelessly and totally out of date in every single way. it has through judicial activism , gone through judicial activism, gone way beyond the original aims of its founders and i want to be clear that reform uk will stand at the next election clearly and unequivocally . we, as the party unequivocally. we, as the party that wants the process of brexit to be completed. and that means us getting back control of our borders and our judiciary. us getting back control of our borders and our judiciary . we borders and our judiciary. we will leave the echr . will leave the echr. >> echr lee , the echr. >> echr lee, the echr. no no question and the labour party believe in it. >> and the truth is the vast majority of conservative mps still believe in it. we will campaign for our independence to

be completed. it should have happened at the time of brexit. we will make sure that in the end it happens . but the other end it happens. but the other extraordinary, gigantic elephant in the room and it's there in politics and it's there in too, media and nobody but nobody wants to talk about it. it is theissue wants to talk about it. it is the issue that is having the biggest impact on the lives of ordinary families in this country. it is the issue that makes the number of houses you build and frankly, almost cost irrelevant . did you notice build and frankly, almost cost irrelevant. did you notice sunak didn't mention housing once in his speech ? what is the point? his speech? what is the point? even if you reach your target of 300,000 new dwellings every year , if net migration is running at

600,000 every year . how can 600,000 every year. how can people how can people expect. how can people expect to get gp appointments or their kids into local schools or to be able to estimate a journey time that might have been an hour, 20 years ago is now two hours, if you're lucky . legal net you're lucky. legal net migration is running at a record number. our population has risen . by 10 million since tony blair came to power. we are living through a population explosion . through a population explosion. we are living through a population crisis and the quality of life for every family in this country is being directly demeaned as a result of it . and this has. this has it. and this has. this has

nothing to do with religion and nothing to do with religion and nothing to do with religion and nothing to do with race. this it's about good, plain common sense. the first duty of a british government is to look after the integrity and safety of its own country and its own people. and we cannot go on living in a country that distils its own young by forcing them all off to university and massive debt. and the corporates relying on mass cheaper imported foreign labour. we have to completely turn this around . completely turn this around. and i can see it all now . i can see i can see it all now. i can see it all now and it will be richard's to job take the abuse next time, not mine , which i'm next time, not mine, which i'm very much looking fonnard to. and we'll be told that it's xenophobic. we'll be told that it's small minded to limit the number of people who legally can

come to britain. but it's not. it's about our community. it's about our society. it's about its identity party. it's about fairness , and it's about our fairness, and it's about our children and grandchildren in having anything like the hope of the same living standard that we've enjoyed . if we go on down we've enjoyed. if we go on down this route , that literally will this route, that literally will be destroyed. and again , again, be destroyed. and again, again, it will be this party at the next general election, making the point , next general election, making the point, oh, next general election, making the point , oh, they'll call it the point, oh, they'll call it right wing , they'll call it right wing, they'll call it right wing, they'll call it right wing, they'll call it right wing . and yet polling right wing. and yet polling shows that two thirds of people think that immigration into britain, the numbers are simply too high and they need to be reduced. this isn't right wing . reduced. this isn't right wing. we are at the centre ground of pubuc we are at the centre ground of public opinion in this country.

anyway enough from me. i'm only the honorary president, but you can tell i'm right behind you and i'll be helping in every way in which i can. and well done to the hundreds of you who've already come fonnard as candidates this party can't win the next election . we're not the next election. we're not going to delude ourselves with that. what this party can do that. but what this party can do and what this party will do is to reshape the national political debate in this country, and it will do it. erevik ably, and it will do it in a way that is a good thing for the people of our country and of our communities. for the people of our country and of our communities . and we and of our communities. and we will be we will be the catalyst longer term for much greater radical and much needed change. we'll have to live with five years of a labour government, but then how much worse could they be? i mean, what would they

do ? would they let dinghies do? would they let dinghies cross the english channel full of young men? yes would they put taxes up to a 71 year high? i mean , frankly, i'm not sure mean, frankly, i'm not sure you'll really know the difference with a labour government to a conservative government. we are, as we've beenin government. we are, as we've been in the past with all my campaigns, as jeffrey titford sitting there whose 90th birthday comes up in a couple of weeks, was me in ukip and weeks, was with me in ukip and jeffrey took many years jeffrey, it took us many years to didn't it? but when we to win, didn't it? but when we did win, we did reform is about to break through. you wait. the polls are going to start to move. you'll start to be talked about. you'll know you're doing well . well, when the press start well. well, when the press start being really rude about all of you because that's the way that it works . but we can and will. it works. but we can and will. we can and will reframe and reshape the debate and the

actions of this country in an historic way. and i believe that with all my heart. but i want you to remember this . i did you to remember this. i did nearly 21 years in the european parliament and nearly 30 years from the birth of ukip , from the birth of ukip, campaigning for us to leave the european union . and i just felt european union. and i just felt i'd had enough. my time was done . i wanted to do other things . . i wanted to do other things. and actually i think through broadcasting i've been able to achieve a fair bit of influence doing that to arguably. achieve a fair bit of influence doing that to arguably . arguably doing that to arguably. arguably be arguably with the banking campaign. i've achieved more for as a broadcaster than perhaps i could have done as a politician. but to keep to keep political parties going through difficult times is hard. you see, when bofis times is hard. you see, when boris got the 80 seat majority , boris got the 80 seat majority, everybody said brexit reform, you're not needed now . you can you're not needed now. you can close down because boris and the

conservatives are going to deliver . well, i was always deliver. well, i was always sceptical. i wasn't sure. but without richard tice without his time , his effort , his endeavour, time, his effort, his endeavour, his willingness to travel all around the country on a regular basis to meet you, to help build local groups, to help find candidates . and frankly, if candidates. and frankly, if we're being honest , without his we're being honest, without his own generosity of putting his handin own generosity of putting his hand in his pocket to keep this party going and to quite some consider able degree, we would not even be here today . may i not even be here today. may i would not be on this platform with you discussing what we can do to change the future history of our country so we all in this room and more broadly, those of us that believe and understand that british democracy needs more than just two voices. we

all owe richard tice simply the most enormous debt . most enormous debt. and so it is my duty and my honour to introduce now to the stage the leader of reform uk . stage the leader of reform uk. one richard tice s. just heard from nigel farage, the honorary president of the reform party. >> he's made it crystal clear, really, that he is going to be sticking with the reform party. there was lots of talk of him potentially wanting to get back in with the conservatives. he's put that to bed, says he wants to stick with the reform party. now. it is richard tice who

takes the baton . he is, of takes the baton. he is, of course, the of the reform course, the leader of the reform party getting his photo taken there nigel. there with nigel. >> thank very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> wonderful . >> wonderful. >> wonderful. >> wonderful. >> wonderful to have him back . >> wonderful to have him back. >> wonderful to have him back. >> look after that secret undercover mission we sent him on in manchester earlier this week . he's reported back safe week. he's reported back safe and sound , almost like james and sound, almost like james bond suave in plain sight. it's wonderful. i mean, this the size of this conference is fantastic i >> -- >> it's absolutely remarkable . >> it's absolutely remarkable. two years ago, we were about 350. >> last year, about 650. this year we're a thousand plus. if we were a company listed on the stock market, we'd be the growth stock market, we'd be the growth stock of the year . we'd be like stock of the year. we'd be like the next google . and who knows ? the next google. and who knows? >> and nigel's been very kind about me, but i just want to firstly to say a huge thank you not only to nigel, but also to

everybody involved within the party because actually it's a massive team effort. this stuff doesn't just happen overnight. it takes masses of work. our headquarters team are absolute brilliant, led by the superb chief executive paul oakton . and chief executive paul oakton. and a huge thank you to paul and our hq team . and to my deputy david hq team. and to my deputy david and my new deputy as well , ben and my new deputy as well, ben habib. more of him a bit later. now now i'm sure it's absolutely on all of your lips that there are 78 days to go until christmas, 78 shopping days. so being a generous man , i thought, being a generous man, i thought, well, what am i going to buy my fellow political leaders for christmas ? is rishi. dear. rishi christmas? is rishi. dear. rishi i think he needs a couple of pairs of long socks to close the gap between the top of his shoes

and the bottom of his trouser. as . we know, he's frugal, but as. we know, he's frugal, but really, surely he can afford some new trousers. not his school trousers . and then i school trousers. and then i thought of dear keir . difficult thought of dear keir. difficult choice. flip flops. no not good enough. no. i thought actually what it needs, he needs one of blackadder's codpiece . his to blackadder's codpiece. his to protect himself because he sits on the fence so much . and then. on the fence so much. and then. and then this. this is some other bloke . ed davey. is anyone other bloke. ed davey. is anyone . i don't know how you find him . i don't know how you find him . i don't know where he is . he's . i don't know where he is. he's i concluded actually , he doesn't i concluded actually, he doesn't deserve a present. i'm sorry. ed but actually, i thought instead

, i thought we'd just remind ourselves about what? a bit of biology? because kieran ed seem a little bit confused . so a little bit confused. so there's a short clip, hopefully that will play on the video of keir and ed with nick ferrari. play it away so a woman can have a penis. >> i'm . not sorry. >> i'm. not sorry. >> i'm. not sorry. >> i'll get this. no no, no, no. >> i'll get this. no no, no, no. >> it's just. no, no, no. just. >> so a woman can have a penis. well quite clearly . well quite clearly. >> right. >> right. >> you couldn't make it up . >> you couldn't make it up. >> you couldn't make it up. >> how do you think putin's going to feel faced with that? on the other side of a negotiating table? he's going to be terrified, isn't he? what about 2 jinping ? i mean, for about 2 jinping? i mean, for god's sake , we can't have these god's sake, we can't have these people running our country. you'll be pleased to know that . you'll be pleased to know that. i do know what a woman is . and i do know what a woman is. and more than that , i'm actually

more than that, i'm actually a very lucky man because i'm blessed with the support , not blessed with the support, not just of one great woman, but two great women. yes yes. because i know you might say that's greedy , but i have huge support and help and affection from the wonderful isabel, which i massively, massively appreciate . and . my god, in her own right, . and. my god, in her own right, hasn't she helped the country with the lockdown files . but . with the lockdown files. but. but secondly, the other woman in my life who is also strong, powerful and not to be messed with , but is actually very with, but is actually very generous with some seriously great advice , wisdom and great advice, wisdom and political knowledge is of course widders. i call her . an you .

widders. i call her. an you. you'll be hearing from an later . now what i did discover when i was thinking about this, about the lib dems , it seems to me the lib dems, it seems to me that the only thing they're good at is accumulating knighthoods . at is accumulating knighthoods. i mean, you've got servants . i mean, you've got servants. cable, sir. nick clegg, sir ed davey. cable, sir. nick clegg, sir ed davey . i mean, what do they give davey. i mean, what do they give nigel? oh, i remembered they gave him a hurricane named after him . hurricane nigel and that's him. hurricane nigel and that's the truth. a lot more influence and a lot more powerful force. yes. it's only three letters to hurricane richard. anyway to the serious business of the day , serious business of the day, because the truth is, the country is in a shocking, shocking state. let's be under no illusion the con socialist tories have broken britain . tories have broken britain.

labour will bankrupt britain as they always do , and it'll be they always do, and it'll be left to reform uk's policies. frankly to save britain . so frankly to save britain. so let's just look at how the tories have broken britain. firstly, we've got workless britain a record number, 5.4 million people are out of work benefits. we've got waiting britain, a record high in terms of hospital waiting lists. you have to join a secret waiting list in order to join the official waiting list of almost 8 million people. all we've got lawless britain shoplifting, completely out of control, knife crime, completely out of control. but the tories in their absolute brilliance, they said, right, we're going to ban machetes as long as it's got a logo on. so guess what? the machete manufacturers manufactured machetes without logos on. they're still legal.

that's the incompetence of these people who absolutely shocking and then another massive bugbeanl and then another massive bugbear. i have to say, i've got so many bugbears at the moment. we've got net zero britain boo quite right. be under no illusion .and i've got a new to a new spot with gb news. and every sunday, britain's favourite sunday, britain's favourite sunday sermon. do listen out for it . last week i started and . sunday sermon. do listen out for it. last week i started and . i'm it. last week i started and. i'm genuinely my first sunday sermon with them. last week i banged on about net zero. if you haven't seen it, take a look back hard over a well over 130,000 views. as i talked about, the greatest financial negligence that's ever been imposed on this country by its leaders. it is an absolute shocker. it's sending our jobs and our money overseas as it is

and our money overseas as it is a catastrophe . now if you want a catastrophe. now if you want to laugh , ask your friends and to laugh, ask your friends and your friends are friends. just ask them how much co2 is in the atmosphere and you'll get some hysterical replies. you'll get head scratching , you'll go, oh, head scratching, you'll go, oh, i don't know, 5, 20. i've even had 50% quoted to me by people that i thought were intelligent . i know you all know the answer . it's 0.04, two of 1. but that's impossible to understand . what is that. well i thought we'd use a bit of an example, so i'm hoping now on the screen will appear a picture of the wembley stadium, a full wembley stadium. it's 100,000 wembley stadium, a full wembley stadium. it's100,000 people, stadium. it's 100,000 people, nought point nought four. two of 1% is 42 people in that stadium . it's basically a football team. subs some dodgy manager and a few physios team. subs some dodgy manager and a few physics as unless it's

jurgen klopp, in which case it's fine that is the total amount of co2 in the atmosphere. if you assume that those 100,000 people represent the atmosphere, the uk is responsible for 1% that's 0.4 of one per person in that stadium . that's basically it's a stadium. that's basically it's a couple of legs or a couple of arms . oh, i'm couple of legs or a couple of arms. oh, i'm not finished . you. arms. oh, i'm not finished. you. no. because of course there's a lot of natural co2 and scientists will argue what is how much is the human induced co2? some people say it's as low as three, four, 5. some say it's 50. i'm a generous man today. i'll tell you what, it's 50% of all co2 . so that's 0.2 of one all co2. so that's 0.2 of one person. it's one limb whether it's a leg or an arm in the whole of wembley stadium. that is what is the human induced co2 from the united kingdom across

the whole planet. and for that the whole planet. and for that the zealots , the cultists in the zealots, the cultists in this new religion, they want us to change our cars. they want us to change our cars. they want us to change our boilers and they want us to travel less. they don't want us to eat delicious , don't want us to eat delicious, wonderful succulent steaks . they wonderful succulent steaks. they want to change everything . and want to change everything. and we need to tell them that the answer is no . oh, yes, yes, yes answer is no. oh, yes, yes, yes i >> and be under no illusion . >> and be under no illusion. >> and be under no illusion. >> voters across europe are now rebelling and revolting against this appalling madness. meanwhile china and india , meanwhile china and india, they're building between them about 300 coal fired power stations, coal consumption and production is at record highs . i production is at record highs. i must be on the right track because even sir tony blair boo

, even sir tony blair has admitted that what we do on net zero is completely irrelevant because the growth in china's emissions in every year is just the growth of their emissions is greater than our emissions is. it's madness and it's destroying ourjobs it's madness and it's destroying our jobs and it's madness and it's destroying ourjobs and it's sending our money overseas. the only zero if we're not careful , all will be we're not careful, all will be the amount of zero in our children and our grandchildren's bank accounts. and we've got to stop it. we're the only party that has the courage to stand up and tell the truth about this issue. and tell the truth about this issue . and . issue. and. and if you think the vitriol and the abuse we got on brexit was bad, it's like a round of drinks compared to what it is. when we talk about getting rid of net zero, i tell you for why? because brexit was

in the heart. it was an emotive, a passionate, a sovereign thing, whereas net zero for the vested interests is they can smell, they can touch, they actually are benefiting hugely by this massive transfer of wealth from all of us to those vested interests. and they don't like it . so actually the abuse is it. so actually the abuse is even worse now . so we will even worse now. so we will campaign against that. nigel talked quite rightly about the other issue, which is we are mass immigration in britain. the numbers are so big, it's hard to calculate 2022, 1.2 million people given permission to come and live here. the net number is actually a bit irrelevant because the way they count it, frankly , i wouldn't trust as far frankly, i wouldn't trust as far as i could throw it this year there'll be another million plus next year, another million plus. and the tories seem quite happy with it. that's lawful

immigration, illegal immigration, illegal immigration, completely out of control. again, total out of control. again, total out of control. they have no idea what to do about it. warm words as usual, but no idea how to stop the boats . i'll come back to it. the boats. i'll come back to it. we do know how to stop the boats, the illegality that's going on around the country as a function of this . have you function of this. have you noficed function of this. have you noticed the mushroom in barber shops opening up everywhere ? has shops opening up everywhere? has our hair suddenly started growing faster because of covid? for heaven's sake ? or the candy for heaven's sake? or the candy shops or the car washes? this is all illegal money laundering of money from drug dealing and from other heinous crimes and activity is this illegality is all over the country. no one else dares talk about it . we else dares talk about it. we will because it's affecting all of our communities, our villages , our towns and our cities . and , our towns and our cities. and then finally, the last thing

that's broken about britain under these tories woke britain . i mean, seriously , this gender . i mean, seriously, this gender ideal erg has poisoned our institutions , our public sector, institutions, our public sector, our big corporations , and most our big corporations, and most seriously and horrifically and dangerously of all, it's affecting our children in our schools . but don't worry, the schools. but don't worry, the prime minister , we are hearing prime minister, we are hearing from richard tice , who of course from richard tice, who of course is the leader of the reform party uk, will be bringing you the highlights from that we were just listening to before richard tice took to the stage. >> nigel farage, who of course is the honorary president of reform reform party. so with reform uk reform party. so with me in the studio, we're going to bnng me in the studio, we're going to bring some analysis to proceedings. we have matthew stadlen and we have jess gill. thank very much indeed for thank you very much indeed for your time. matthew, i'll come to

your time. matthew, i'll come to you um well, there's you quickly. um well, there's a lot to say there. nigel farage came all guns blazing. come came on all guns blazing. come confirmed will not be confirmed that he will not be going to the conservative party. he will not be well. he was he was simply at the conference to see what was going on. and he is very much firmly committed to the reform party . the reform party. >> that's the big news line. i think that, nothing that think out of that, nothing that richard tice has said takes the limelight away from farage. you could brilliant could see what a brilliant performer he is. we know that already. but he has played the conservative party a conservative party like a fiddle. flirt with them for fiddle. he flirt with them for days. he danced with priti patel. he got sunak to be equivocal about whether he'd accept him as part of the conservative party. and what he's really doing is sticking with reform uk. >> yes , jess, he did flirt with >> yes, jess, he did flirt with the conservative party. do you think he played them like a fiddle? oh yeah, absolutely. i mean, party mean, the conservative party totally they've been totally deserve it. they've been an absolute failure for the past decade in terms of immigration, in terms of high taxes, in terms of actually implementing any conservative policy . i think the

conservative policy. i think the only way fonnard is reform . only way fonnard is reform. >> um, or if maybe possibly another party. >> i'm not sure. another party. >> i'm not sure . but is a vote >> i'm not sure. but is a vote for reform a vote for the labour party ? i don't think so . for reform a vote for the labour party ? i don't think so. i party? i don't think so. i think, as nigel said , like think, as nigel said, like realistically we probably will get labour in in the next general election. and quite frankly , i think the frankly, i think the conservative party it conservative party deserve it after what they've to this after what they've done to this country. betrayed britain after what they've done to this c01many betrayed britain after what they've done to this c01many times. ztrayed britain so many times. >> ridiculous. >> it's ridiculous. >> it's ridiculous. >> yes. so i think it will send them message . >> yes. so i think it will send them message. if >> yes. so i think it will send them message . if voters say them a message. if voters say we're not going vote for we're not going to vote for laboun we're not going to vote for labour, we're going to vote labour, but we're going to vote for because want more for reform because we want more right wing policies, actual right wing policies, actual right policies. now nigel right wing policies. now nigel did us of the history of did remind us of the history of the brexit party . he said, you the brexit party. he said, you know, i helped help the conservative party hugely put trust into boris johnson, hoping many people put trust into boris johnson. he said he was sceptical that he deliver sceptical that he would deliver the brexit that the country voted for. >> well, it's for fascinating about farage is, as you about watching farage is, as you say, what happened in 2019. he withdrew hundreds of brexit party candidates and that meant

that the conservatives were free to win that 80 seat majority . to win that 80 seat majority. he's going to do something very different this time around, or so it seems , and that could hurt so it seems, and that could hurt the conservatives very severely. not because reform are going to win mps of their own. he mocked . ed davey. the lib dems will win many more, many more seats than the reform party. it will hurt the tories if they haemorrhage conservative party votes and that in the end will help labour. and i think a key thing to take away from the last week is as he was flirting at the very same time as he was flirting with the conservative party, farage saying loud party, farage was saying loud and and he repeated it and clear and he repeated it there. labour will the next election. >> yes, he did continue to say that. thank you very much indeed , jess gill that. thank you very much indeed , giving jess gill that. thank you very much indeed , giving us jess gill that. thank you very much indeed , giving us your jess gill that. thank you very much indeed , giving us your thoughts gill that. thank you very much indeed , giving us your thoughts on.l for giving us your thoughts on those two speeches. richard tice and nigel farage and before that, nigel farage it's interesting to note that they spoke about business. they spoke about woke issues . they spoke about woke issues. they spoke about woke issues. they spoke about woke issues. they spoke about net zero. but fundamentally they spoke a lot about the conservatives failure

or what they see as the conservatives failure on immigration. both legal and illegal. particular focus on the echr, which of course the conservative government have refrained from talking about too much, at least at the conference. so we've got lots more coming up on today's show. we are at war. those are the words of israeli pm benjamin netanyahu as fighters from the military group hamas launched at an unprecedented attack on israel. bring you very israel. we'll bring you the very latest as happens. all of latest as it happens. all of that more to i am that and more to come. i am emily carver and you are watching listening to gb emily carver and you are watchi britain's stening to gb

>> the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> hello. good afternoon . i'm >> hello. good afternoon. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom with the headlines. it's 134. israel's prime minister has declared his country is at war after a surprise and deadly attack by the hamas militant group. thousands of rockets were fired from the gaza strip towards cities as far away as jerusalem . elam this morning, while several israeli towns were invaded , at least 40 israelis invaded, at least 40 israelis are dead with hundreds more injured. this video shows palestinians using a bulldozer to break through a fence separating gaza with southern israel as gunshots are heard in the distance. israel has launched several retaliatory strikes and at an emergency cabinet meeting, prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said the

country is reinforcing its frontiers. earlier he warned that terrorists have infiltrated the country as israel and hamas citizens of israel . citizens of israel. >> we are at war, not in an operation or in rounds, but at war. this morning, hamas launched a murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens. we have beenin israel and its citizens. we have been in this since the early morning hours. i convened the heads of security and ordered, first of all, to clear out the communities that have been infiltrated by terrorists . infiltrated by terrorists. >> well, this morning's attack is being seen as an unprecedented escalation in with an unknown number of hamas gunmen crossing the border . gunmen crossing the border. earlier, i spoke to con coughlin , the defence editor at the daily telegraph , who says israel daily telegraph, who says israel has been caught by surprise . has been caught by surprise. >> the fact that the palestinian militants seemed to have taken some israelis hostage . the some israelis hostage. the israeli media's reporting that

35 israelis have been taken hostage. i mean, this this is an enormous security failure by the israeli defence forces. and i think israeli prime minister netanyahu will be determined to respond very strongly against this. and i think you can expect to see a lot of israeli military activity targeting hamas strongholds in the gaza strip . strongholds in the gaza strip. >> in other news, the labour party has unveiled new plans to clamp down on sexual harassment in the workplace. speaking at labour's women's conference in liverpool, deputy leader angela rayner says the party has plans to break the glass ceiling and the glass ceiling. it comes as new figures show almost 5 million women experienced sexual harassment at work every year . harassment at work every year. >> labour government will amend the equality act to introduce a legal duty for employers to take all reasonable steps to stop sexual harassment before it starts . but that's not all. we

starts. but that's not all. we will make misogyny a hate crime i >> speaking there, well, you can get more on those stories just visit our website, gb news.com. now it's back to . emily now it's back to. emily >> welcome back to gb news. saturday. with me, emily carver on your tv online. and digital radio. we just heard from nigel farage richard tice the farage and richard tice at the reform uk party conference. we'll be bringing analysis we'll be bringing you analysis and highlights in the coming hours. now, russia and the un has called for an immediate ceasefire between israel and palestinians as islamist group hamas launched its biggest attack on israel in years . attack on israel in years. ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy has called it a terrorist attack. at least 40 israelis have been killed, with more than 700 israelis injured. here's some live pictures coming out of gaza that you can see

there on the screen. so joining me now to discuss this is former head of counter—terrorism at the mod major general chip chapman. thank you very much indeed, chip . as we've seen the breaking news there , 40 people have now news there, 40 people have now been confirmed , claimed killed, been confirmed, claimed killed, 40 israeli, as many hundreds injured . this is escalating . injured. this is escalating. >> well, it's not escalating yet. i think what you can say is that this is very different than what has come previously. >> the last hamas attack was in 2021, an operation that lasted 11 days. what what's to look for in terms of escalation is there will be a number of objectives which the israelis will have straight away. the first one is they'll seek to destroy the rocket launch storage sites . rocket launch storage sites. secondly, they'll seek to regain control of all their population centres. thirdly, they'll try and decap penetrate the hamas leadership . fourthly, they'll leadership. fourthly, they'll try and deter hezbollah in lebanon from joining the fight

and potentially palestinian islamic jihad . fifthly, they islamic jihad. fifthly, they need to destroy sufficient hamas capability so that they reinforce deterrence in the future . and lastly, and most future. and lastly, and most importantly for them, they need to liberate their hostages, which have gone into gaza. that will probably mean at least some sort of ground operations. now, the last war, as i said, lasted 11 days. in 2021, hamas actually wanted to stop that after two days because of the cost to them. but i think what we'll see in this case is that hamas might might get to choose when a war begins, but they don't get to decide when it ends. and i think the big stick will be very big in this next few days from israel. yes >> and it's been said that well , this is a colossal intelligence failure for israel. this came as as a surprise . this came as as a surprise. >> yeah, well, the job of intelligence is not to produce certainty, but to minimise

strategic shocks . and the fact strategic shocks. and the fact that you had all the sort of domain of land, sea and air used by hamas and the fact they could break over the border and fire 5000 rockets means that this is absolutely a strategic intelligence failure. certainly on a par with the 50th anniversary which was celebrated in the last couple of days of the 1973 yom kippur war. so that is a massive failure by mossad. the israeli intelligence organisation . and of course, organisation. and of course, again, it is a public holiday. so the mobilisation takes time. once that mobilisation is there, then there will be this big stick. as i sort of said, that will occur in your view, this was likely planned to coincide with that anniversary and also it being a public holiday. with that anniversary and also it being a public holiday . well, it being a public holiday. well, yeah, i think both of those are absolutely true. but i think we also have to remember about hamas and the their position and

the fact that they are one of the fact that they are one of the five armies really the proxy armies in the middle east, sustained by by by iran. so you've got hezbollah , hamas, you've got hezbollah, hamas, palestinian islamic jihad . the palestinian islamic jihad. the houthis, pmf in iraq. these are all sponsored by iran. so it might be that in terms of the damage that hamas has done is not only hamas , that israel will not only hamas, that israel will go after . it may be elements of go after. it may be elements of the capability of iran, not necessarily in iran, but in either lebanon or syria. that is one of the potential dangers . of one of the potential dangers. of escalation. but certainly this was a massive intelligence failure and it takes time to mobilise. that is done and the big stick will be there. >> and what kind of tactics acas can we expect from the hamas militant group if. >> well, what they've sort of done on a scale which is slightly different than a normal is what we call fedayeen . that

is what we call fedayeen. that is, they've done both a sort of seasoned hold operations in terms of taking people or having people in the sort of bag in some of the settlements and shoot and scoot in a marauding tactics as well. now, the israelis, of course, on their side of the border will seek to root all those out. what will become more difficult is if they've gone back to gaza to then take them on there. so i don't think that they will try and do a cease and hold in scale inside of israel for the future because they will just get taken out by either air power or grandpa from the israelis . but, grandpa from the israelis. but, you know, there are dedicated fighters of hamas might do fighters of hamas who might do that to fight to the and that to fight to the death. and one things, of course, one of the things, of course, from is to try become from them is to try and become the principal rejectionist party in in israel. so in really in the last war in 2021, they tried to supplant the palestinian authority party, which is the accommodationist fatah party in the west bank. now there's a big scale uprising in the west bank

and there are also uprisings , and there are also uprisings, for example, in israeli cities, which there were sort of to some extent in 2021, in jaffa , lod extent in 2021, in jaffa, lod and akra from, for example , al and akra from, for example, al arab israelis , then you've got a arab israelis, then you've got a different problem or a compounded problem for the israeli forces. now, for those watching, there will be a concern that this violence that we're seeing here today may encourage or spread elsewhere in the region. >> what are your thoughts on that at. >> well, i think that's one of the reasons the violence occurred. now is that really, since the abraham accords in 20. we've had a sort of normalisation wave between israel and a number of the middle eastern countries, particularly the uae . and there particularly the uae. and there was talk recently of the saudi arabians and the israelis normalising it. so i don't think it's coincidental that this is here now. it is trying to derail that as much as to show that we

are the force which seeks to expel israel from from where they they are as a state, because that is what their vision is. they're not against israeli policy is they're against israel's existence . against israel's existence. >> this very, very quickly , >> this very, very quickly, before i let you go, could we see this play out on on in the uk in terms of protest? >> you always do, because one of the things you have here is colliding narratives about support for israel and support for what people see as the downtrodden palestinians. and we've seen this both in 2008 and 2012 and those conflicts. so you will see protests on the on the streets on both sides. >> thank you very much indeed for your time. major general chip chapman , who the former chip chapman, who was the former head counter—terrorism head of counter—terrorism at the mod. much indeed mod. thank you very much indeed for your time. really appreciate that. us the very for your time. really appreciate that. analysis us the very for your time. really appreciate that. analysis onthe very for your time. really appreciate that. analysis on whatery for your time. really appreciate that. analysis on what is latest analysis on what is happening in israel . happening in israel. unprecedented attack on the country there . you're watching

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saturday with me, emily carver. i'm on your tv online and digital radio until 3:00 now. rishi sunak has backed his government to stop the boats or regain control of the uk's asylum he's found asylum system, and he's found a new ally in his struggle. the italian prime minister, giorgia meloni, joined the prime minister in calling for new and immediate measures , tackling immediate measures, tackling what they call the european crisis sunak. in a joint opinion piece, said that we're proud that italy and the uk are leading on this together and even went as far as to say that the uk and italy were two of the closest friends in europe today. so joining me now is immigration lawyer ivan sampson , our lawyer ivan sampson, our international border strategy advisor , henry bolton. thank you advisor, henry bolton. thank you very much indeed for your time. henry i'll start with you. what do you make of this new alliance? this europe alliance? is this what europe needs to get a grip the needs to get a grip on the migrant crisis? well it certainly needs somebody to take the lead on it, emily. >> and it is better that it's not just one nation, but in this case, we've got italy. >> and in fact, the netherlands

and albania as well, all sort of backed up by the european commission who sort of commission who are sort of really coordination of this. really in coordination of this. but, know, that's a that's really in coordination of this. but real know, that's a that's really in coordination of this. but real politic that's a that's really in coordination of this. but real politic of at's a that's really in coordination of this. but real politic of what'shat's really in coordination of this. but real politic of what's going the real politic of what's going on here. but no, of course, we have to cooperate . we have to have to cooperate. we have to exchange information and we have to disrupt the organised criminal networks . and in fact, criminal networks. and in fact, i welcome , um, the eight point i welcome, um, the eight point plan that that these, these nafions plan that that these, these nations have come up with. it's actually quite good. but at the moment it's like everything else, it's words and what actually has to happen is real intelligence and tactical operation, operational disruption in of the organised criminal networks on the ground throughout the length of the networks that they're moving people through. and that reaches into north africa, the sahel, the maghreb, east africa. it reaches into places like turkey and the near east. so that's and in fact parts of eastern europe and south eastern europe, places

like the republic of macedonia and so on. so that's got to happenif and so on. so that's got to happen if we don't have that real operational deployment backing this up, it's not going to have an effect and it can't just be a case of intelligence exchange . so i welcome this for exchange. so i welcome this for what it is, but there's a big piece missing that i don't yet see. >> ivan, i'll come to you in just one moment. and henry, sorry to put you on the spot, but could you point out some highlights from that eight point plan getting plan that they're getting behind? there? behind? what's in there? >> yeah, so for example, >> yeah, well, so for example, there an agreement on there is an agreement on operational coordination and cooperation now that, you know, of course, that should be you know, it should go without question . but when countries question. but when countries actually agree that, then there's a framework for, if you like, the tactical and operational planners to get their heads together and make it work. many times working work. but so many times working in the international environment , in the international environment i , in the international environment , i have countries agree to , i have seen countries agree to something make big public headunes something make big public headlines about it and say we're

agreeing this, but actually the political will internally doesn't actually exist. and doesn't actually exist. and doesn't empower the operation people to do their work. so we've got we've got that agreement. we've got an agreement. we've got an agreement to exchange intelligence. we've got an agreement agreement to deploy onto the ground , but we've not onto the ground, but we've not got the necessary we haven't seen yet the operational authority disseminate it to those agencies. that must be part of this. yeah, there should be 12 british government agencies engaged . by my agencies engaged. by my figuring, i don't see that happening yet. if it happens, then i'll give i'll give rishi sunak. well, so far , never ten sunak. well, so far, never ten out of ten, but nine out of ten for effort on this. >> right. okay. nine out of ten. nine out of ten for, for effort but yet to see how it turns out . ivan, what do you think ? is . ivan, what do you think? is this the alliance, the italian prime minister, the british prime minister, the british prime minister, the british prime minister or rishi sunak? is this the alliance, europe is calling out for? >> um , look, i don't actually >> um, look, i don't actually

know what the plan is. i mean , know what the plan is. i mean, where's the actual policy pieces that will stop people crossing the channel? >> halyna hutchins is great. cooperation is great. but the fact remains that we haven't executed a single trafficker of people . people. >> not one. so . the whole of our >> not one. so. the whole of our resources in the uk intelligence service, the police and so forth, we have not prosecuted one, not even one. so it it sounds more like rhetoric, really. and the problem is, is that this country doesn't understand our obligation , understand our obligation, international treaty obligations , the illegal migration act is incompatible with the european convention on human rights . convention on human rights. that's a fact . there's no such that's a fact. there's no such thing as an unauthorised entry . thing as an unauthorised entry. the refugee convention allows . the refugee convention allows. you to make unauthorised entry. there's nothing unlawful about it. so you know, i think we need to get to grips with the law and

what the law says is if you want to claim asylum, you can come across the channel unauthorised. it's not illegal. it's irregular . yeah. the difficulty for the government is the economic migrants. they are illegal. so why are we not removing them? why do we not have a treaty with the eu if the french wants to stop boats, could stop the boats, they could simply. they do it with italy. so when people cross from italy to france, guess what? the french send them back . they french send them back. they could do it if they wanted to. we need a treaty with the eu to make it a legal footing , an make it a legal footing, an obugafion make it a legal footing, an obligation on the to french properly control their borders. instead we just give them tens of millions of pounds with no performance . performance. >> well, hundreds of millions. henry ivan raises a very good point. that a lot of people don't talk about enough are law is so confused thing and often incompatible with and contradictory even with international obligations . this

international obligations. this is the problem. and we see this in terms of in many areas of policy . policy. >> and indeed, emily, look, i have long advocated that this country needs a fully integrated national strategy cross—government. this needs to be home office. it should include home office, foreign office to the treasury, the defence intelligence sis, the mi6, mi5 , defence intelligence sis, the m16, m15 , and all of these m16, m15, and all of these different agencies all need to come together border force and so on. national crime agency. but we don't have it now. when you develop such a strategy as i have done for a number of countries, what it requires first is a full review of the whole comprehensive approach that we've got now to borders in immigration. that's your operational layout, your physical infrastructure for how it's all governed and crucially, your legislation on i argued with the border and immigration act that this is a standalone act. it shouldn't be. you should

do that review first and say, what do we need legislatively to be able to empower all of our agencies to do this job correctly ? yeah, and we don't correctly? yeah, and we don't have that. >> i'm terribly sorry, but i'm going to have to cut in there. but thank you very much indeed for your expertise. henry bolton there ivan sampson on there and ivan sampson on migration, lawyer migration, migration lawyer there. very there. thank you very much indeed let us know what you indeed. let us know what you think. you're watching and listening news saturday think. you're watching and liste|me. news saturday think. you're watching and liste|me. we've news saturday think. you're watching and liste|me. we've gotvs saturday think. you're watching and liste|me. we've got lotsturday think. you're watching and liste|me. we've got lots more! with me. we've got lots more coming up.

welcome to gb news saturday. i'm emily carver. for the next hour, i'll be keeping you company on your tv online and digital radio. so coming up this hour, we are at war. those are the words of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu fighting from the military group hamas have launched unprecedented launched an unprecedented attack on israel . we'll bring the on israel. we'll bring you the very latest as it happens. then, nigel farage says reform will be the catalyst for long term radical change at the party conference. we'll be breaking down richard tice down what he and richard tice had say our deputy had to say with our deputy political tom hannood political editor, tom hannood and the transport secretary says cancelling hs2 will allow investments that fit the needs of the country . but the £36 of the country. but the £36 billion that would have been spent on finishing the project would fund a number other would fund a number of other transport as transport schemes described as network north. but this just network north. but is this just another waiting to happen? another flop waiting to happen? do conservatives do you trust the conservatives and do get in touch? send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or please message me our socials. we're message me on our socials. we're at gb news. before we get

at gb news. but before we get into that, it is your news with . tamsin emily thank you. >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom it's 2:01. israel's prime minister has declared that his country is at war after a surprise and a deadly attack by the hamas militant group. thousands of rockets were fired from the gaza strip towards cities as far away as jerusalem , while several israeli towns were invaded. at least 22 israelis are dead with hundreds more injured. this video shows palestinians using a bulldozer to break through a fence separating gaza with southern israel as gunshots are heard in the distance. local news has reported israeli civilians in border towns are barricading themselves in their homes, pleading for help . israel's pleading for help. israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu says terrorists have infiltrated the country as a israel and hamas .

israel and hamas. >> citizens of israel , we are at >> citizens of israel, we are at war, not in an operation or in rounds, but at war. this morning , hamas launched a murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens . we have been in this since the early morning hours. i convened the heads of security and ordered, first of to all, clear out the communities that have been infiltrated by terrorists is in a sign of regional tensions, iraq's government has said via a statement that today's attack is the outcome of what it called decades of oppression by a zionist occupation as well. >> earlier, i spoke to con coughlin, the defence editor at the daily telegraph, who says israel was caught by surprise fact that the palestinian militants seemed to have taken some israelis hostage. >> the israeli media's reporting that 35 israelis have been taken hostage. i mean, this this is an enormous security failure by the israeli defence forces and i

think israeli prime minister netanyahu will be determined to respond very strongly against this. and i think you can expect to see a lot of israeli military activity targeting hamas strongholds in the gaza strip . strongholds in the gaza strip. >> to other news now. the labour party has unveiled new plans to clamp down on sexual harassment in the workplace . speaking at in the workplace. speaking at the labour party, women's conference in liverpool, deputy leader angela rayner says the party has plans to break the glass ceiling and the glass ceiling. it comes as new figures show almost 5 million women experienced sexual harassment at work each year. >> the labour government will amend the equality to act introduce a legal duty for employers to take all reasonable steps to stop sexual harassment before it starts. but that's not all we will make misogyny a hate crime . crime. >> also speaking at the

conference, shadow equalities secretary anneliese dodds said labour would force political parties to disclose information about the diverse city of their candidates . candidates. >> the conservatives could have done this years ago, but they didn't have the guts. only labour will act to make politics more represen tive of the people we serve now to bring people with different experiences and background into parliament to do the things that only women mps , the things that only women mps, a black, asian and minority ethnic mps, disabled mps and lgbt+ mps can do. >> we need to make sure there's that representation ? that representation? >> an snp leader, humza yousaf, is being urged to rethink plans for independent scots after labour's victory in the rutherglen by—election. labour is michael shanks defeated. the scottish national party by winning 58% of the vote. it's prompted calls for usf to rethink his proposal that winning the majority of seats at the next general election would

be a mandate for negotiations on scottish independence. meanwhile while labour has vowed to work constructively with the scottish government if it gets into office, extreme rainfall fall and flooding is forecast for scotland and northern parts of england with a danger to life warning issued. the met office hasissued warning issued. the met office has issued an amber weather warning for a large part of central scotland, while a yellow weather warning covers most of the country. travel disruption is also expected with scotrail cancelling trains on a number of lines in contrast, southern areas will have dry weather with temperatures as high as 25 c . as temperatures as high as 25 c. as one of pablo picasso's masterpieces is going on sale next month and is expected to fetch almost £100 million. the spanish artist 1932 work a farm at mont depicts his golden muse , marie—therese walter. she was a subject of many picasso portraits . it's and it was known portraits. it's and it was known the pair had an affair. the

painting is being exhibited at sotheby's in london from today until wednesday . this is gb news until wednesday. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . emily news now it's back to. emily >> thank you, tamsin. now the big news line coming from reform party's conference is that nigel farage has confirmed he will not be rejoining the conservative party. he, of course, was at the conservative party conference, was getting a huge amount of attention. but he has said very clearly, unequivocally that he is sticking with reform. so kicking off the reform uk conference, he spoke of an almighty gap in the uk political market that was in his opening speech. he said reform would refrain him and reshape actions of this country , calling it of this country, calling it a catalyst for long term radical change. gb news deputy change. now, gb news deputy political tom is political editor tom hannood is there . tom, thank you very much

there. tom, thank you very much indeed for joining there. tom, thank you very much indeed forjoining me. now, you've listened to both farage speech and richard tice the leader of reform party. can you give some highlights how give us some highlights and how were received ? i've nadhim were they received? i've nadhim zahawi yes, well, of course, nigel farage, as with many places he goes, received a rock star welcome here at the reform party conference. >> and indeed, his main line, perhaps the loudest rounds of applause . even some individuals applause. even some individuals in the audience standing up and clapping is that, of course, he was saying he would not be accepting what he described, perhaps cheekily as rishi sunak offer for him to join the conservative party of course, if we remember back to our very own christopher hope's interview with the prime minister earlier this week , the prime minister this week, the prime minister said that the conservative party is a broad church and implied that nigel farage would be welcomed to join. well, today the president of reform, nigel farage, also , of course, gb news farage, also, of course, gb news presenter, saying that he would not be taking up that offer,

that he would be sticking with reform, that he would be putting all of his energy into campaigning with reform in the next of elections. next series of elections. of course, local course, we're expecting local elections in may and potentially a big general election in the autumn. now it does seem that the reform party is gearing up to a new stage in its campaigning cycle, really, and perhaps one of the biggest changes that we've heard today from the party is a bit of a logo change. yes no longer does the logo of the reform party just say reform uk. they've added three new words . it now added three new words. it now reads reform uk , the brexit reads reform uk, the brexit party and insiders in the party tell me that this is because the brexit party , that strong brand brexit party, that strong brand that brand that won a national election back in 2019, has far higher name recognition across the country than reform uk alone. and the gamble that this party is taking today is adding those three extra words adds onto their logo could kick up

the poll rating for reform uk from around the 8% that it sits in now into the double digit territory . territory. >> now, one of the key things that both nigel farage and richard tice were talking about there is immigration. they say there is immigration. they say the conservative party has let down the country , let down down the country, let down conservative voters and let down brexiteers fundamentally key for having record highs , both in having record highs, both in terms of illegal and legal migration. that is one of their key, key campaigning tools . key, key campaigning tools. >> it certainly is. and nigel farage said it himself. it was theissue farage said it himself. it was the issue that was perhaps at the issue that was perhaps at the forefront of the minds of the forefront of the minds of the kind of voters that really do decide the elections , do decide the elections, particularly in areas like the red wall that we've been speaking about so much. and he was saying , of course, that the was saying, of course, that the conservative party doesn't talk about legal migration . and we about legal migration. and we heard more from richard tice a little bit later , tying that little bit later, tying that

into other issues faced by the country, particularly issues like housing, tying in that demand side, too. of course, the supply side that we do hear about so much to. so, yes , the about so much to. so, yes, the reform party standing on a clear manifesto there of wanting to bnng manifesto there of wanting to bring down legal migration, as well as eliminate out illegal migration. and richard tice mentioned this old party favourite policy, the policy that a decade ago was enacted by tony abbott in australia of turning back boats. it's his contention , ian, it's his claim contention, ian, it's his claim that that is legal under international law. of course what the government says is that thatis what the government says is that that is not legal under international law and would cause a lot of problems with france, whom the boats would be turned back to . so clearly turned back to. so clearly there's a lot to be debated there. but i suppose the other key issue that sets the reform party apart from the others is their stance on the echr a clear our manifesto commitment from

this party today to leave the echr in this party today to leave the echrinin this party today to leave the echr in in a in the hope in their view of fixing the illegal immigration issue altogether. >> and tom just very quickly, before i let you go , so a lot of before i let you go, so a lot of support in my inbox for reform uk for richard tice, for farage, but also so a lot of people writing in to say that a vote for reform is a vote for the labour party . labour party. >> well, it's interesting . >> well, it's interesting. that's something that nigel farage hinted at in his speech , farage hinted at in his speech, but his answer to that charge, andits but his answer to that charge, and it's a charge that is thrown quite regularly at the reform party, aren't you throwing away your vote? what nigel said to that was what would be the difference between five years of the labour party and five years of the conservative party? he said that perhaps the labour party would have lots of boats arriving on our southern coasts. perhaps the labour party would see at a 71 year high, but see tax at a 71 year high, but

then pointed out that that's exactly what's happened in the last few years under the conservative party too. i suppose the counterargument to that what the conservatives would say to that charge is that there has been a definite change in conservative party policy in the last few months or so . you the last few months or so. you only have to look at rishi sunak's new policy towards net zero, his more strident language when it comes to culture war issues as well. and clearly this intention of rishi sunak presenting himself as a change candidate that theme of his speech on wednesday. so there are two very clear arguments there. number one, people in reform saying what's the difference between the tories and the labour party? give us a go. but clearly the conservative party trying to differentiate itself in the same breath saying, no, we are a different party from the labour party. there is clear blue water there so that is a debate that will no doubt run in and run. >> yes, i'm sure . now doubt run in and run. >> yes, i'm sure. now i doubt run in and run. >> yes, i'm sure . now i know you >> yes, i'm sure. now i know you have to head off to liverpool.

no rest for the wicked . you're no rest for the wicked. you're off to the labour party conference later today, so i'll let catch your train. that's let you catch your train. that's gb news deputy political editor tom hannood, the tom hannood, bringing us the very the reform very latest from the reform party conference. please do keep your views coming in on those speeches. your views coming in on those speeches . farage tice what speeches. farage tice and what you do reform uk have a you make do reform uk have a chance increasing their share chance of increasing their share of vote? they're at of the vote? they're sat at about 7 to 10% at the moment. can they gain more? what do you think moving to our top think now? moving to our top story of the day, russia and the un has called for an immediate ceasefire israel and ceasefire between israel and palestinians as islamist group hamas its biggest hamas launched its biggest attack on israel in years. ukrainian president zelenskyy has called it a terrorist attack. at least 40 israelis have been killed, with more than 700 israelis injured. now, here's live pictures coming from gaza that you can see there on the screen. i'm going to talk to jake wallace simons, the editor of the jewish chronicle. jake jake, there's rockets being fired right now, as i understand it in my ear, jake , thank you

it in my ear, jake, thank you very much for joining us. it in my ear, jake, thank you very much forjoining us. you're very much for joining us. you're from the jewish chronicle. do you have any friends and family who are out there? and what are you from the ground, if you hearing from the ground, if indeed are? well i know like indeed you are? well i know like many jewish people, i know a lot of people who are out there at the moment as israel and this is a war. >> this is an open benjamin netanyahu has . and we can expect netanyahu has. and we can expect a response over the next and probably over the next. uh, in response to this , jake, i think response to this, jake, i think we're losing you on the line. >> i see. if we can reconnect to you. are you there ? can we speak you. are you there? can we speak to you? >> i'm here. >> i'm here. >> i'm here. you're >> i'm here. you're here. >> i'm here. you're here. okay. i think we lost a bit of sound there. do you mind repeating what you said? >> . i mean, this is the >> yes. i mean, this is the biggest assault on israeli territory. we in my lifetime . it territory. we in my lifetime. it came on the 50th anniversary of the yom kippur war of 1973, when

similar as a result of a huge intelligence failure, israel was taken by surprise. fast fonnard to today and the gaza border was entirely overrun by palestinian terrorists led by hamas . and it terrorists led by hamas. and it seems like the israeli forces lost control of the erez border crossing, allowing militants to come into israel . and they come into israel. and they proceeded to carry out some horrendous massacres and kidnaps. we've seen pictures of them entering bomb shelters where families were huddling and gunning them down in cold blood. we've seen them dragging women, children, mothers and babies and unarmed civilian men into jeeps across the gaza border. and parading them in the streets. we've seen them mutilating corpses to the jubilation of crowds . so this is a major, crowds. so this is a major, major attack . to call it major attack. to call it a terror attack is insufficient . terror attack is insufficient. it's an act of war. these are well trained hamas infants , men well trained hamas infants, men who are operating inside the jewish state on israeli soil.

and the response is going to be huge.the and the response is going to be huge. the real questions are now what will happen next? will will hezbollah get involved from the north? they have 150,000 missiles points at israel. that's more of an arsenal than most nation states have. will they unleash that? will the israeli arabs rise up in support of hamas? that's another question as well. and behind it all, how close is iran to a nuclear weapon is? there's no doubt that iran is pulling the strings here. >> yes. and you echoed what benjamin netanyahu , the israeli benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, said. he said , prime minister, said. he said, we are at war and we will win. as he sought to reassure israelis that they will do as much as they can to prevent this from escalating. so what do you make of the international response? we've heard very clearly from the uk prime minister, rishi sunak , and also minister, rishi sunak, and also the leader of the opposition that israel has every right to defend itself and there is solidarity there . jake. jake

solidarity there. jake. jake i think we i think we may have lost jake there, but this picture. jake, are you there? we've got some pictures here live from gaza . we're just live from gaza. we're just working on getting jake back there. as we've seen the very latest news is that, sadly for many israelis have been killed, many israelis have been killed, many more hundreds are injured. we've seen many footage circulating online and elsewhere of people being handled and dragged through the streets by hamas militants . yes, we're hamas militants. yes, we're receiving many reports to that effect. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, has said we are at war and we will win . mohan hamad deif, who is win. mohan hamad deif, who is the military commander of the islamist movement, announced that the state of the operation on hamas media. he called on palestinians everywhere to fight . he said this is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation nation on earth

again, the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu in israel said, we are at war and we will win. we've also heard from the uk prime minister, rishi sunak. he said we stand in solidarity and israel has a right to defend itself. we also saw we heard from the leader of the opposition in sir keir starmer, who said something to the same effect. this is on twitter that we've heard from both the prime minister, rishi sunak , and also minister, rishi sunak, and also the leader of the opposition. now this is it's shabbat. today is saturday morning. this broke out at 7:30 am. we spoke to someone earlier, a journalist in israel . siren went off at 730 in israel. siren went off at 730 in the morning. she went to take shelter and has been there since. hamas have been firing rockets. it's huge explosions on screen that you can see there live from gaza as hamas , the live from gaza as hamas, the militant islamist group, attacks israel. you can see there at least 40 israelis have been

killed. more than 700 injured in the hamas attack. and this has only been for a few hours . we only been for a few hours. we know that this is the biggest attack on israel in years . this attack on israel in years. this morning, some are calling it unprecedented , rented, unprecedented, rented, infiltrated areas of southern israel. we know at least 40 israelis have been killed . we'll israelis have been killed. we'll bnng israelis have been killed. we'll bring you the very latest as we get it. we also know that hamas have launched multiple and combined land , sea and air combined land, sea and air attacks inside israel proper. they've been under sustained and rocket fire, jake is back, the editor of the jewish chronicle. jay i think we were talking when you when your line broke up there about the international response , hence the strong response, hence the strong response, hence the strong response from the prime minister here and the leader of the opposition in. >> that's right. i mean, there can be no equivocating. it comes to this kind of attack . it is to this kind of attack. it is brutal , brutal. it's been of

brutal, brutal. it's been of a piece really with a sort of anti—semitic pogroms that we've seen throughout history in russia, in poland, in iraq and elsewhere , where whereby elsewhere, where whereby marauding gangs of terrorists have been prowling the streets, shooting any civilians that they can and taking prisoners mutilating bodies and generally committing acts of brutality that contravene all the norms of civilised of the civilised world. so the condemnation has been strong . israel has to been strong. israel has to defend itself . the it's vital defend itself. the it's vital israel now reinstates whatever deterrent it can against such attacks. there's been a huge intelligence failure that led to this day battle occurring and other enemies that israel has on other enemies that israel has on other borders , notably notably other borders, notably notably hezbollah in the north, are going to be looking on with interest and wondering whether they will do join the fray. so this is a very, very fragile and dangerous moment for israel and the wider middle east. >> talk about wider >> you talk about the wider middle east. i wonder if you've

given any thought to how this may this country , if may play out in this country, if indeed at all, whether we'll see protests. we often see when there are conflicts abroad, internationally that they can play internationally that they can play out in minority communities in this country. is that a concern . concern. >> it's a huge concern. i mean , >> it's a huge concern. i mean, last time there was a conflict between israel and gaza in 21 to 156 palestinians killed , that 156 palestinians killed, that was enough to bring 180,000 protesters onto the streets in hyde park , we saw gangs drive hyde park, we saw gangs drive through jewish areas of north london with megaphones . how they london with megaphones. how they were going to it. children. we saw gangs rolling through high street, kensington , through the street, kensington, through the streets there, shouting how they wanted to find the zionists. they wanted their blood . so, you they wanted their blood. so, you know, at the moment it's very clear reasonably reasonable clear to reasonably reasonable people in the world of en masse very well trained and well

prepared terrorist group that has no discrimination between killing soldiers and civilians, men, women or children, and is committing acts of the most grotesque brutality that we have, that we have seen in recent times. israel must defend itself. it must take action. but we do know that there's a great swathe of the public who are informed by what i call israeli phobia, which will respond to any effort from the jewish state to defend itself with huge condemnation and demonstrations , regardless of how many precautions the jewish state takes to preserve preserve life in its military operations . so in its military operations. so this is only going to go in a bad way in israel in the theatre of war and i fear elsewhere, including in britain . including in britain. >> now, jake, our viewers are currently watching on the screen and this is for the benefit of our radio listeners . we are our radio listeners. we are looking live at gaza. and there are what appears to be explosions , huge clouds of smoke

explosions, huge clouds of smoke over buildings. many look as though they are residential below buildings there, residential homes . there will be residential homes. there will be many people who are sheltering right now and potentially fearful for their lives . yes i'm fearful for their lives. yes i'm not sure how at this distance you can tell the difference between residential homes and other buildings. >> but yes, israel responding >> but yes, israel is responding to these brutal attacks, this invasion of its sovereign territory by taking military action as any other country would do . you cannot stand by would do. you cannot stand by and see your civilian population targeted in this way by terrorists and not respond . so terrorists and not respond. so this is a state of war. and a state of war is different from a counter—insurgency operation. state of war means that the gaza strip will be sealed off. it will not have energy supplies. it probably won't have food or water supplies while the operations ongoing, not just operations are ongoing, not just terrorist cases will be attacked, but also the hamas infrastructure, including buildings and communication and bndges buildings and communication and bridges and things like that. so this is this is a tragedy. it's

a tragedy . it's an absolute a tragedy. it's an absolute tragedy. the loss of life is going to be huge. and all we can do is pray. >> now, jake, i must ask, there will be those who draw an equivalence between the actions of benjamin netanyahu's israeli government and those of groups like hamas that we're seeing. what do you say to those people i >> well, i don't think anybody who has a reasonable moral compass will draw such an equivalence . i think it's only equivalence. i think it's only people who are who are infused with the newest version of the oldest hatred of anti—semitism, which now targets the state of israel, rather than jews as a race. they're quite clearly is no equivalence between the two sides. of course , in any modern sides. of course, in any modern warfare , civilians are sadly warfare, civilians are sadly killed . and that's the case with killed. and that's the case with israel's wars as well as britain's and america's. israel's wars as well as britain's and america's . but britain's and america's. but israel does not target civilians. on the other hand , civilians. on the other hand, we've seen such brutality from hamas operatives not just targeted civilians, women and

children dragging their bodies away and mutilating them in public, raiding them through the streets while crowds cheer and applaud and sweets are handed out in palestinian population centres across the west bank and in gaza. this is an entirely different order of brutality . of different order of brutality. of course, you know, a dead person is a dead person. and i don't mean to downplay that in the slightest, think we slightest, but i think that we do need recognise any do need to recognise that any such drawing, equivalence, such drawing, such equivalence, is now, jake, i really >> now, jake, i really appreciate your you appreciate your time. you mentioned earlier about the intelligence failure . israel is intelligence failure. israel is known around the world for having one of the best, if not the best intelligence service , the best intelligence service, access to intelligence and also defence. this must be a worry for those living in israel concerned that this could have gone unchecked unnoticed , that gone unchecked unnoticed, that this is a huge shock , the huge shock. >> and it happened on the anniversary of the yom kippur war in 1973 when an intelligence failure led to israel being

caught by surprise, invaded both from the north and from the south. 50 years on, everyone assumed that those lessons had been learned , that israel was no been learned, that israel was no longer vulnerable to such surprise attacks. israel, as you've said, is known to have the most sophisticated intelligence intelligence operation and the most powerful military in the region. the idea that it's being caught unawares in this way is, is almost unthinkable to anybody living in israel. and any commentators and analysts overseas. and yet it has happened. in 1973, the reason was that there was a sort of group in the military and amongst politicians, but they thought that because the arabs would likely lose the war, they wouldn't dare to wage one. it remains be as to whether remains to be seen as to whether that the case today, whether that was the case today, whether there of hubris there was some kind of hubris that led to this woeful failure . but now, the important . but right now, the important thing defend israeli thing is to defend israeli rewarding americans. >> well, thank you very much indeed for your time. thank you for that extended interview . for that extended interview. jake wallis simons, editor of

the jewish chronicle. now in the studio with me is peter edwards, former editor of labour list. thank you very much indeed for coming into the studio. peter of course, there this is a big talking point within the labour party. we see every conference there are discussions about israel, palestine . are you israel, palestine. are you pleased that and will most labour party members be pleased with keir starmers swift response statement on what is happening? he has said in a tweet that he stands behind israel's right to defend itself i >> well, first of all, all our thoughts are with the victims of this despicable attack. >> it's a very wicked act. and up to or maybe more than 40 people killed. >> think all our thoughts >> so i think all our thoughts shocking today, as i understand it, starmer is quickly it, keir starmer is very quickly come and there's no come out and said there's no justification. think that's justification. i think that's absolutely what we're absolutely correct. what we're witnessing barbarism on witnessing is barbarism on ordinary israeli people going about their life. but clearly this will this will come up in

westminster and it will come up at all the party conferences, including labour this weekend . including labour this weekend. and i hope the membership, as i do, support keir starmer's stance, which is very clear. >> what do you think if there are it's very difficult because at the labour party conference there will be people who belong to the hard left of the party and they may have very negative views towards the israeli state, towards the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , minister, benjamin netanyahu, and actions there. how wokeist to manage this? well with sensitivity and by listening, you know, i think much of the labour party and not to be part of brit school much of politics and society wants to see peace in the middle east and wants to see a two state solution and will be horrified by events will be horrified by the events of today. >> it's possible on the way conference actually works . conference actually works. there'll be what's called, you know, urgent or emergency motions so the labour party can express its solidarity. but i

think obviously, clearly you're alluding to the disastrous time labour had 5 or 6 years ago over anti—semitism . i think keir anti—semitism. i think keir starmer has changed the labour party. that is a process that continues and we can't be complacent about it. but i think when details are still emerging , i think most folks reaction or conference will be the same as mine, which is horror at what's unfolding and great empathy for those who've lost their lives and left bereaved or and been left bereaved or injured by these wicked events . injured by these wicked events. >> we've got more >> yes, we've got more explosions there explosions on the screen there in from gaza. our in gaza live from gaza. our video feed there. it's worth noting, corbyn, you noting, jeremy corbyn, you mentioned the corbyn years. he has tweeted an hour ago. he said the unfolding in israel the unfolding events in israel and palestine are deeply alarming. need an immediate alarming. we need an immediate ceasefire, an urgent de—escalation, and we need a route out of this tragic cycle of violence. ending the occupation is the only means of achieving a just and lasting peace. and that's the controversial element of that tweet, that last sentence . yes. tweet, that last sentence. yes. ending the occupation is what he

said there . well, the last thing said there. well, the last thing that keir starmer wants is for this issue to take over the conference. but sadly , that's conference. but sadly, that's all we've got time for. peter edwards, thank you very much indeed for your time. former editor of labourlist looking to the labour response to what is happening in israel. keir starmer has come very starmer has come out very strongly to condemn what has happened. attack by hamas, happened. the attack by hamas, the group , and happened. the attack by hamas, the group, and to the militant group, and to defend israel's right to defend itself. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday. i am emily calvi. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's

>> join the live desk on gb news. >> the people's channel. britain's news channel . hello britain's news channel. hello good afternoon. i'm tamsin roberts in the newsroom. here are the headlines at 234, at least 40 people have been killed and hundreds more injured after the hamas militant group launched a surprise attack on israel for thousands of rockets were fired from the gaza strip while gunmen crossed the border in a deadly assault. this video shows palestinians using a bulldozer to break through a fence separating gaza with southern israel as gunshots are heard in the distance . local heard in the distance. local news has reported civilians in border towns barricade themselves in their homes, pleading for help. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu said terrorists have infiltrated the country . he infiltrated the country. he zahawi israel and hamas citizens

of israel. >> we are at war now, not in an operation or in rounds, but at war. this morning, hamas launched a murderous surprise attack against the state of israel and its citizens. we have beenin israel and its citizens. we have been in this since the early morning hours. i convened the heads of security and ordered, first of all, to clear out the communities that have been infiltrated by terrorists . infiltrated by terrorists. >> in a sign of regional tensions , iraq's government has tensions, iraq's government has said via a statement that today's attack is the outcome of what it called decades of oppression by a zionist occupation. well, earlier i spoke to con coughlin, the defence editor at the daily telegraph, who says israel was caught by surprise , but that the caught by surprise, but that the palestinian militants seemed to have taken some israelis hostage. >> the israeli media's reporting that 35 israelis have been taken hostage. i mean, this this is an enormous security failure by the israeli defence forces . and i israeli defence forces. and i

think israeli prime minister netanyahu will be determined to respond very strongly against this. and i think you can expect to see a lot of israeli military activity targeting hamas strongholds in the gaza strip. the labour party has unveiled new plans to clamp down on sexual harassment in the workplace. >> speaking at the labour party women's conference in liverpool , deputy leader angela rayner says the party has plans to break the glass ceiling and the glass ceiling. it comes as new figures show almost 5 million women experience sexual harassment at work each year . harassment at work each year. >> labour government will amend the equality act to introduce a legal duty for employers to take all reasonable steps to stop sexual harassment before it starts. but that's not all we will make misogyny a hate crime i >> well, those are the headlines and you can get more on those stories by visiting our website

gb news.com stories by visiting our website gbnews.com now it's over to . gbnews.com now it's over to. emily welcome back to gb news. >> saturday with me, emily carver. i'm on your tv, online and digital radio. now the labour party is calling for a major overhaul of the nhs . major overhaul of the nhs. they're warning it must modernise or die. it comes as the party aims to double the number diagnostic scanners number of diagnostic scanners in hospitals quicker number of diagnostic scanners in hospiteto quicker number of diagnostic scanners in hospiteto life quicker number of diagnostic scanners in hospiteto life savingjuicker access to life saving treatments. they say for tens of thousands of patients. wes streeting ting, who's the shadow health secretary, stressed the nhs facing an existential nhs is facing an existential crisis . but will see crisis. but will we see a revitalised nhs under a labour government? is also worth noting that west , writing in the report that west, writing in the report on this he said that this is going to be paid for by scrapping non dom status, which, if i remember rightly, has been used quite a lot to fund a lot of different things, not least nurses and doctors pay rises anyway . joining me now is gb anyway. joining me now is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. nigel

i thought you were going to be up in liverpool already for the labour conference, but thank you for joining me from, i believe, forjoining me from, i believe, kent. am i right? yes in your in your library there . and thank your library there. and thank your library there. and thank you for joining your library there. and thank you forjoining me wes you for joining me so wes streeting coming of the streeting coming out of the blocks about the nhs, blocks talking about the nhs, this is what's going to be announced at the conference. i suspect more money for diagnostics, more money for better equipment and modernisation of the nhs . this modernisation of the nhs. this is music to many people's ears is music to many people's ears is he's going to pay for it by scrapping non—dom status. when have i heard that before now? >> yes he is. and at the moment the spending the spending plan for labour have and not too ambitious . so if abolishing ambitious. so if abolishing non—dom tax status raises the 2.3 billion that it's predicted to so far, wes streeting is only spent 171 million of that, which is not very much . and that's is not very much. and that's what he's he's doing with doubung what he's he's doing with doubling the number of scanners

that hospitals have got . the that hospitals have got. the problem is that when it comes to mri and ct scanners, they only last for four have a shelf life of around ten years, half . of of around ten years, half. of them now have past that ten year mark and 1 in 5 hospitals are still using machines that were around when the last labour labour government was in power. so it's urgent to do . but when so it's urgent to do. but when it comes to adding up the costs of it, it is not huge compared with the kind of money that non—dom tax status abolition is expected to raise . expected to raise. >> now a lot of people, when they see wes streeting says the nhs must modernise or die . they nhs must modernise or die. they don't think a few more scanners is what he's talking about or what he should be talking about. a lot of people will have seen that and thought, goodness me, is nhs reform form root and branch reform on the cards. it seems he's sort of moving away from that bold stance that he he did only months ago .

did have only months ago. >> no, i think the root and branch reform is on the cards . branch reform is on the cards. that's exactly what it needs is and this is the point about the money side of it. it's not just about throwing more and more billions of pounds at the nhs. it's about actually changing how it operates . so one of the it operates. so one of the things that wes streeting is keen on and something the tories have actually been copying is to cut the huge waiting list at the moment that you'd be able to have your , your operation in a have your, your operation in a private hospital. but at the same cost it would be to the nhs so you could get hundreds of thousands of more people through the system quicker by using both the system quicker by using both the private and public sector. so that's one of the one of the sort of reforms he's talking about. and that's not something that will cost a huge amount of money. now that say that will send alarm bells ringing for some people on the left of the labour party who are concerned about any use of private

services because they might see that as, you know, the back way to full privatisation of the nhs. >> and of course tony blair was previously prime nervously criticised for allowing private operators . operators. >> yes, i mean the tony blair system of, of private financial management didn't really work . management didn't really work. so it's not about going down that route. and it's not about actually privatising the nhs . actually privatising the nhs. it's about using all the capacity that exists in the country to treat patients when you've got 7.7 million people on waiting lists , it really is waiting lists, it really is urgent to try and to try and get those lists down. and so all it means is it's unused capacity in private hospitals will be used for nhs patients . for nhs patients. >> now nigel, we've been seeing horrific footage from gaza , from horrific footage from gaza, from israel. this massive attack from hamas is in that country.

israel. this massive attack from hamas is in that country . 40 hamas is in that country. 40 people confirmed dead already. really shocking stuff. hundreds injured . we know there's an injured. we know there's an ongoing debate within the labour party about israel, palestine, about all the issues relating to that. could it be that this may be dominates more than keir starmer certainly would like ? starmer certainly would like? >> well, we'll have to see to see how events develop in israel . and i think that it's significant. you read out the keir starmer put out immediately after news news of these attacks came through and he is saying that the labour party and a future labour government will be foursquare behind israel in their struggle, struggle with with hamas. yes you're right. there will be the left of the party who still have plenty of sympathy with palestine and obviously really ultimately, you need a two state solution in the middle east. if we're ever going to solve this problem. but that

seems to be as far away as it ever was . ever was. >> yes, because i remember in the corbyn era, there were palestinian flags aplenty . me in palestinian flags aplenty. me in the conference hall, keir starmer will certainly not want this to detract from, well, deflect or distract from what he has to say . to the conference has to say. to the conference hall in terms of what we can expect generally from him. the labour conference we saw that rishi sunak got a tiny bump in his personal approval ratings following the tory conference, but they didn't make any any progress when it came to the overriding voting polling for the election itself. do you think keir starmer, what has he got to do ? got to do? >> well, i mean , i think we've >> well, i mean, i think we've got to the point now where labour will actually flush out a policy and so at last we're going to see exactly what a labour government is likely to

look like . i think that keir look like. i think that keir starmer is proved that he's competent, he's proved he's, he's got the confidence of the voters. we've seen that in opinion polls and obviously in the scottish by—election as well . now what he's got to show is that he's also radical and prepared to change britain for the better and that's what i think you'll see in his in his conference speech on tuesday . conference speech on tuesday. >> yes, it'll be very interesting to see what is said . we've seen angela rayner talking about making misogyny a hate crime . is that a priority hate crime. is that a priority for the british people? i'm not so sure, but she has many other things to say and of course i look fonnard to hearing what keir starmer has to say for the future of this country, what he's going to do better. he has so far been vague, but we are seeing more policies come. are we not? thank you very much, nigel nelson there, our senior political commentator at gb news, live from kent. you're watching or listening to gb news saturday carver. saturday with me, emily carver. we've more coming up,

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think we need to do. we've got a hot spell at the moment. it is fantastic, but from wednesday onwards . i'm fantastic, but from wednesday onwards. i'm on your tv online and digital radio. >> now, yesterday say the labour party won the rutherglen and hamilton west by—election as a 20% swing. so michael shanks, take the seat from the snp. the

scottish seat was vacated when margaret ferrier was suspended from the house of commons for breaching covid rules. that led to a recall petition commenting after the announcement, keir starmer said the people in rutherglen and hamilton west have sent a clear message. it is time for change, he said . there time for change, he said. there he is now. joining me now is pollster and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde, sir john curtice. thank you very much for your time, sir. john. a huge result for labour . for labour. >> yes, i'm much better result indeed for labour than we even anticipated from the opinion polls . it was no surprise that polls. it was no surprise that labour won rutherglen. they had , after all, won the seat in the 2017 general election under jeremy corbyn's leadership and the swing required for labour to pick up the seat at 5% was well below the 11% swing being registered by the opinion polls in scotland. but in the event it was a 20 point swing and indeed in some respects it was a result that seemed to point to the

politics of scotland before the 2014 independence referendum. when labour used to be dominant as opposed to the post—referendum politics we've been experiencing for the last decade of the snp being the masters of the political scene . masters of the political scene. so, for example, labour's share of the vote at 59% was only a little bit below the 61% that the party won in rutherglen back in 2010, before the referendum. and if and obviously it's a big if and it's only a hypothetical exercise, but if you take the swings that occurred in rutherglen and assume they would happen across scotland as a whole , then labour would be back whole, then labour would be back to the 41 seats that they had in 2010. so to that extent at least a very clear indication that the labour party are now opposing to the snp. the biggest challenge since the since the referendum . since the since the referendum. >> and sir john, since the since the referendum. >> and sirjohn, many unionists >> and sir john, many unionists will be delighted by the prospect of the snp doing badly in scotland . do you think this

in scotland. do you think this reflects a party that's on its way out or is that wishful thinking from those people ? thinking from those people? >> well, i think certainly one thing you need to be aware of is that the decline in support for the snp is a decline in support for the snp , not a decline in for the snp, not a decline in support for independence. if you take the half dozen or so polls that have been conducted in the last two months, support for independence is averaging 59, much of where it has been for much of where it has been for much of where it has been for much of the last couple of years . in other words, therefore, we probably have to look to the problems facing the snp as a for party an explanation and i would certainly pick out two. one is that mr yusuf , the new leader, that mr yusuf, the new leader, is relatively unpopular and nothing like as charismatic or in many people's views is effective. as his predecessor , effective. as his predecessor, nicola sturgeon. and the second is that the leadership contest earlier this year did help to expose some of the internal divisions inside the snp rural issues. et cetera, et cetera. and of course, voters tend to

not to like divided parties . so not to like divided parties. so in a sense, therefore this is the snp accommodate itself to the snp accommodate itself to the more difficult sturgeon sturgeon environment which it now finds itself well , thank you now finds itself well, thank you very much indeed for your time, sir. >> john curtice, their eminent pollster and professor of politics at the university of strathclyde , one of the best strathclyde, one of the best pollsters in and political analysts out there , really. but analysts out there, really. but that's it from me today . thank that's it from me today. thank you indeed joining you very much indeed for joining me we live to the reform me. we went live to the reform party conference. we, course, party conference. we, of course, talked about what's happening in israel. shocking footage coming from there of the attack by hamas . but with me now is nana, hamas. but with me now is nana, who is going to be with you for the next couple of hours. what have you got on your plate? >> well, of course, we're going to be talking about what's going on in israel. >> are going to be going live >> we are going to be going live to uri geller. >> going to he's there. >> he's going to he's there. he's a museum in israel. he's got a museum in israel. he's got a museum in israel. he's going to talk us through exactly what's been happening on the because there. the ground, because he's there. he what's he knows all about what's happening with regards to

politics, which is terrible, very politics, which is terrible, verjand situation. so we'll >> and awful situation. so we'll be at that. also be looking at that. we'll also have belinda, in the house. have belinda, lucy in the house. she'll talking reform. she'll be talking about reform. >> going to be my new >> but she's going to be my new panellist just for the afternoon. basically all the afternoon. and basically all the stuff that's going on. we can stuff that's going on. as we can see in the headlines right now. so keir starmer, course, the so keir starmer, of course, the fact they won seat in fact that they won a seat in scotland, could it be now that actually dream actually the dream of independence is dead? actually the dream of indeell,ence is dead? actually the dream of indeell, wee is dead? actually the dream of indeell, we heard sad? actually the dream of indeell, we heard from paul >> well, we heard from paul curtis there talk to us about that. the snp may be independence he's not so sure about but it'll be interesting to see what your panellists and experts have to say about that. one. a lot of people would be delighted at the prospect, but we know independence is a very, very strong movement and it's not only linked to the scottish national nationalist party, but thank you very much indeed for watching and listening to gb news with emily news saturday with me. emily carver, you for joining, carver, thank you for joining, but don't go anywhere. it is nana but before that is nana next. but before that it is the jonathan . the weather with jonathan. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by office. there is the

by the met office. there is the continued of flooding and continued risk of flooding and travel disruption across scotland rest of scotland throughout the rest of today into tomorrow with the today and into tomorrow with the stored weather front providing a month's of rainfall for month's worth of rainfall for some during this some locations during this weekend. is an amber rain weekend. there is an amber rain warning in force until the early hours of sunday morning with heavy still possible. so heavy pulses still possible. so do to take care. do continue to take care. northern ireland, wales and england though pressure is england. though high pressure is largely charge, keeping it largely in charge, keeping it relatively dry to end day relatively dry to end the day and overnight. start and overnight. but we'll start to cloud pushing to to see some cloud pushing to eastern england turning eastern areas of england turning quite and some fog quite murky here and some fog patches across patches developing across southern england and southern parts of england and wales as well. most us are wales as well. most of us are relatively mild night around 12 13 c, drop into 13 c, but we might drop into single figures a few single figures and a few valleys. the valleys. and across the north—east it's also valleys. and across the norinorth—east it's also valleys. and across the norinorth—east where it's also valleys. and across the norinorth—east where thes also valleys. and across the norinorth—east where the rainso the north—east where the rain will eventually push throughout sunday pushing sunday morning, pushing across the highlands. murray aberdeenshire and then eventually northern eventually into northern isles later a later on elsewhere. again, a largely dry day with the cloud in the east will be quite stubborn to clear during the morning, brighter morning, but some brighter spells in the spells developing later in the afternoon. the sunshine, afternoon. best of the sunshine, though, for of wales though, for parts of wales central of central southern areas of england temperatures will

england where temperatures will climb 24 c, notably climb towards 24 c, notably above average for the time of year. above average for the time of year . if we look ahead to year. if we look ahead to monday, most of the rain across the far north will have eventually off. eventually cleared its way off. still showers, still a legacy of showers, though, persisting and the cloud around northern around still for northern ireland. parts of western england bring some england and wales may bring some drizzly outbreaks of rain, but the generally holding on the south generally holding on to the to those dry conditions and the heat well into the middle heat as well into the middle part of next week. some rain, though, as we arrive towards tuesday by in a world of dull and predictable radio and tv shows. >> oh , hi. >> oh, hi. >> oh, hi. >> on mark dolan tonight we've got big guests. we drill into the big stories of the day . the the big stories of the day. the show adds up to a brilliant listening and viewing experience marked ireland. >> tonight is the most entertaining current affairs show ever, and that's a fact . show ever, and that's a fact. >> that's mark dolan tonight friday, saturday and sunday from 910 only on gb news is britain's news channel . news channel. >> join me camilla tominey from 930 on sunday morning live from

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a surprise attack on israel