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. israel palestine obviously mps. israel palestine obviously is leading the agenda today, but also where do the labour party stand on things like the eu? where do you stand on immigration and crucially tax, tax, well? to tax, tax as well? it's all to play tax, tax as well? it's all to play for today. show coming play for today. busy show coming your way . your way. >> hello. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. i'm tamsin roberts . it's 3:00. here are the roberts. it's 3:00. here are the top stories . qatar is holding top stories. qatar is holding urgent talks with hamas and israel to negotiate hostage and prisoner swaps . doha is trying prisoner swaps. doha is trying to . secure the freedom of women to. secure the freedom of women and children captured by the terrorist group. in exchange for palestinians in israeli prisons. israel has declared war with hamas after a surprise attack by the terrorist group on saturday. more than 800 people have been killed in israel and 500 in gaza since then. israel's defence minister has ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip, cutting off food, fuel and electricity .
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off food, fuel and electricity. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu , who says his netanyahu, who says his country's response to the attack will change the middle east. israeli media says 300,000 reservists have been called up in the largest ever draft in the country . three israeli expats at country. three israeli expats at frankfurt airport who fled the violence shared their experiences as tension is quite high. >> a lot of uncertainty of what to do , we don't know. to do, we don't know. >> i don't have enough words to tell you about the feeling is the words are yeah, it's horror , but it's not safe and it's justit , but it's not safe and it's just it we don't know what will come. >> that's the worst . >> that's the worst. >> that's the worst. >> while scotland's first minister says his wife's parents are trapped in gaza after visiting family there, humza yousaf says he's not sure if they'll make it through the night , they'll make it through the night, saying also that he unequipped hinckley has condemned the hamas attacks. meanwhile, the prime minister is
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holding a cobra meeting to discuss the escalating violence the foreign office is advising against all but essential travel to israel as fighting continues , it will be an anxious time for many families who have loved onesin many families who have loved ones in the region. >> it's a quite complex situation , an on the ground. so situation, an on the ground. so we are working very closely with our israeli counterparts to establish the status of any british nationals on on the ground that work is under undennay as we speak . but for undennay as we speak. but for anyone who does have family or friends in the region, the most important thing for them to do is follow the foreign office advice, but also the advice of the israeli home command . the israeli home command. >> well, shadow foreign secretary david lammy says the labour party views the attacks on israel as utterly appalling. >> there is never, never a justification for terrorism . justification for terrorism. labour stands firmly in support of israel's right to defend itself and rescue hostages and
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protect its citizens . the protect its citizens. the hostages. so cruelly taken in including children, should be released immediately. and hamas indiscriminate attacks set back the cause of peace . the cause of peace. >> let's look to some other news now in the shadow chancellor says her party is ready to rebuild britain. speaking at the labour party conference in liverpool, rachel reeves spoke of restoring economic security after what she calls the chaos of the tory years. she says labour plans to revamp the uk's outdated planning system to boost the economy and confirm plans to overhaul planning rules to speed up energy and 5g projects. she says the choice at the next general election is five more years of the tory chaos or a changed labour party out of the wreckage of tory misrule. >> liz labour will restore our
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economic credibility. we will lift our living standards and make work pay , rebuild our make work pay, rebuild our pubuc make work pay, rebuild our public services and invest in home grown industries in every corner of our country. and together we will get britain its future back . future back. >> the government is defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda in the supreme court , to rwanda in the supreme court, lawyers representing the home office have told the court the policy to remove people to a country that's safe but less attractive than the uk is lawful. so james eady says the government has attached considerable importance to the deal. considerable importance to the deal . over the next three days, deal. over the next three days, several cases are collectively known as the rwanda appeals . known as the rwanda appeals. these will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling refugees as more than 400 criminals have been jailed for over 3700 years after an operation by the met police operation by the met police operation eternal investigated organised crime groups over a three and a half year period by
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targeting an encrypted messaging platform . more than three tonnes platform. more than three tonnes of class a and b drugs and nearly 50 guns were seized in the largest ever operation of its kind by the met with the force, calling it unprecedented and this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on digital uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news choose now let's get back to patrick, who's in liverpool at the labour party conference this . party conference this. >> well, very good afternoon everybody. it's patrick christys here in liverpool at the labour party conference at lots to go out today, both inside and crucially outside of this conference hall. first, early israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says that his country's response to shark
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attacks by terror group hamas will change the middle east. so gb news viewers can see live pictures of the gaza skyline. there the death toll on both sides is continuing to rise. and one can only imagine that it's going to increase significantly going to increase significantly going fonnard. latest figures suggest more than 560 palestinians have been killed whilst israel khan tv is reporting the death toll in israel has surpassed 800. so yes indeed, no sign of anything of betting there. clearly in israel. and we are going to bnng israel. and we are going to bring the latest as and when we get it. but our political editor, christopher hope joins me now. now this is actually whilst terrible, obviously, what's the middle what's going on in the middle east. quite interesting timing because has had because the labour party has had a fruity record when it a very fruity record when it comes to the palestine, israel conflict. that's right. and now here we are at labour party conference with war in israel . conference with war in israel. and how are they reacting? >> i'm pro—palestinian demonstrator outside now with the tunnel of these people with with signs about israel is quite
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tense outside but not within the hall here although you do have people here with with lanyards on supporting the palestinian cause. it's not yet erupting in this in this conference. david lammy , the foreign secretary, lammy, the foreign secretary, gave a really interesting statement today. >> his speech. >> in his speech. >> in his speech. >> condemned the attacks on >> he condemned the attacks on israel said stands israel and said labour stands right israel's right right alongside israel's right to rescue hostages and self—defence and to back the peace process. >> the policy of the party is a two state. >> it's significant that it is. >> it's significant that it is. >> it's significant that it is. >> it's nowhere where the party was as recently as 2019 when jeremy corbyn, of course, was leader. he's now he's now an independent mp, but a labour member . and he came and spoke on member. and he came and spoke on the fringes of the conference yesterday. >> yeah, no , indeed, it is fair >> yeah, no, indeed, it is fair to say that. how do i phrase this ? the lunatic fringe are this? the lunatic fringe are outside and not inside . there is outside and not inside. there is a there is an interesting to be in government. >> that's the point. yes. that's the this place, you know the point. this place, you know the point. this place, you know the cardigans have gone. patrick the cardigans have gone. patrick the suits are in here, right? it
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was cardigans. you know, people like a slightly amateur hour, frankly , about being frankly, about being made a government. well, the people who want to run this country are want to run run this country are the tories are right place. the tories are right in place. peter on the front peter mandelson on on the front row of that speech earlier, the biggest today was by biggest speech today was by rachel reeves, shadow chancellor, mortensen, chancellor, peder mortensen, right centre right there, front and centre with cabinet. with the shadow cabinet. interesting development you mentioned interesting development you me we'red interesting development you me we're just to going do a bit >> we're just to going do a bit of a summarise of where we are today, so david lammy today, basically. so david lammy has out massively favour has come out massively in favour of israel and getting of israel going and getting hostages is hostages back. so that is significant. fair to significant. it's fair to say, like i've it's quite like i've said, it's quite a sedate atmosphere here, a bit of a there's none of the a buzz, but there's none of the kind of, well, say kind of, well, let's just say it, you know, the corbyn isa lunacy that there was a couple of years ago, there's here of years ago, there's not here now. rachel has been now. and rachel reeves has been endorsed the former governor now. and rachel reeves has been enthesed the former governor now. and rachel reeves has been enthe bank the former governor now. and rachel reeves has been enthe bank ofe former governor now. and rachel reeves has been enthe bank of england.governor now. and rachel reeves has been enthe bank of england. that'sor right. >> mark carney, appointed by a tory it's called tory chancellor it's called a defection for some people. and this literally is not this is this literally is not that important compared to what's happening in israel and palestine, in palestine, no question. but in politics, it is a big moment when mark carney said, i gave a statement the labour party statement to the labour party saying time to put
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saying it's beyond time to put her action, beyond her ideas into action, beyond time. i mean, lot tory mps time. i mean, a lot of tory mps are saying, why on earth did we support that? carney's becoming becoming governor says becoming governor when he says this labour shadow chancellor? >> yeah, his remarkable >> yeah, i mean his remarkable really look. thank you much really look. thank you very much . the, that's the general . that's the, that's the general picture to kick off here at picture to kick us off here at labour party conference. the main obviously is this main story obviously is this horrific coming out of the horrific news coming out of the conflict in israel. we put it to the labour conference attendees because, look, let's be honest , because, look, let's be honest, labour party and its members have had a bit of a fruity track record when it comes to which side they're on and who they back in that particular fight. so i thought we would put it to labour conference attendees. do you stand with israel? here's what they said . what they said. >> israel has a right to exist . >> israel has a right to exist. >> israel has a right to exist. >> as far as i see it, it has a right to exist. its people have a right to exist. and i have a very close friend that's jewish. >> so without any doubt in my mind, israel should protect itself. >> has protected itself and should continue to do so. >> i think important to >> i think it's important to look at it as you know, either
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way, being lost and way, lives are being lost and it's innocent people that are going to be hurt by this. >> and so when we look at this issue, we need to think of it as a human cost. >> but i think hamas are the aggressors in this. >> yes. >> yes. >> andre portasio you look at what's happened in there and nobody to with nobody should have to deal with that situation . let's take it that situation. let's take it away from the big political agendas and take it back to the people who are having deal people who are having to deal with horrors that never with horrors that we can never even . even imagine. >> yes. this, you know, really bad what's been happening. >> i've seen it on the news all the deaths and stand with israel. >> the nation state has the right to defend itself. >> israel has been invaded. >> israel has been invaded. >> it's come under attack from a terrorist organisation. israel is doing what any country would do in any such circumstances. israel's right to exist . it it israel's right to exist. it it has a right to defend its territory. and most importantly , defend its citizens. >> i am a supporter of the
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palestinian people's right to live free, to live without apartheid and i absolutely don't condone violence, but i see the current situation as being a natural outcome of decades of oppression of those people. >> and while i do not in any way endorse violent conflict, i think this is a situation that could be predicted . and i'd like could be predicted. and i'd like to see both working to see both sides working together quick together to reach a quick resolution here. that all resolution here. so that all people live peace. resolution here. so that all peo but live peace. resolution here. so that all peo but certainly peace. resolution here. so that all peo but certainly foreace. resolution here. so that all peo but certainly for thee. >> but certainly for the palestinian people can live without apartheid. >> right. okay. pretty much >> right. okay. so pretty much resounding there. i'm resounding support there. i'm joined now by the labour mp for stockport, navendu mishra . thank stockport, navendu mishra. thank you very much. great to have you on the show. now, look, obviously the main story at the moment is israel palestine. that's what's happening. do that's what's happening. we do have bit of a clip, i have a little bit of a clip, i think. anyway from outside this conference centre where people have been protesting. let's run the pictures and we can talk over it. yeah, there we go. so boycott israeli apartheid. this is just outside where i am. this is just outside where i am. this is christopher hope, our
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political film lots of political editors film lots of palestinian flags there. obviously we all the drill, obviously we all get the drill, don't we? so there's basically a pro—palestine contingent out there. that so there. that's what that is. so can i ask you then, navendu , do can i ask you then, navendu, do you support that? so david lammy, our shadow foreign secretary, has issued a statement on the developing situation in israel—palestine . situation in israel—palestine. >> keir starmer has issued a statement as well. obviously, this is this is outside the conference zone and we have people from all sorts of various campaign groups campaigning and there's a big anti—brexit contingent outside as well. and is there's lots of campaign groups campaigning outside . groups campaigning outside. >> okay. all right. so do you stand with israel? >> well, i as i said, we're supporting the position that david lammy has put out. he put out statement yesterday. it is out a statement yesterday. it is an ongoing it would an ongoing situation. it would be unfair for to be unfair for me to make comments and it's not in my brief either. >> okay >> so. okay >> so. okay >> mean, lammy is >> yeah. i mean, mr lammy is saying clearly how they saying there clearly how they support the two state solution, but they support israel's support the two state solution, but titor support israel's support the two state solution, but titor backnport israel's support the two state solution, but titor back those;rael's support the two state solution, but titor back those hostages i >> -- >> so -- >>so| >> so i support david's position . the labour party has always
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supported international law. the un resolution is quite clear on the two state solution, but also we support civilians being we don't support civilians being taken, hostages in all sorts, bewildering for you the way the parties change on this this m atter. >> i this matter. >> i this happened when >> i mean, if this happened when jeremy corbyn leader, jeremy corbyn was leader, you can different can imagine a different response. i we saw that response. i mean, we saw that when appeared the fringe when he appeared on the fringe last night. >> well, i haven't seen the clip with jeremy, but the labour party supported un party has always supported un resolutions and international law, spirit, we law, and in that spirit, we support the two state solution. >> all right. so, >> okay. all right. and so, i mean, do you condemn hamas? >> yes, absolutely . i mean, the >> yes, absolutely. i mean, the violence is not acceptable . violence is not acceptable. there needs to be a peaceful political solution to the situation . violence is not going situation. violence is not going to resolve the issue. >> okay. all right. so look, just just moving fonnard, obviously , one of the big things obviously, one of the big things i think for a lot of people when it comes to labour party, who are ahead polls and are ahead in the polls and there's undeniably a you know, there's undeniably a you know, there's there's feeling of there's a there's a feeling of a government waiting here. you government in waiting here. you can't deny that at all. i think one of the major concerns of people is about about what
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one of the major concerns of pe0|do is about about what one of the major concerns of pe0|do withnout about what one of the major concerns of pe0|do with the about what one of the major concerns of pe0|do with the economy nhat one of the major concerns of pe0|do with the economy and you do with the economy and whether you're going to whether or not you're going to be have the money to do be able to have the money to do some of the things that you really want to do. so we've heard a bit about things like scrapping non—dom status. scrapping the non—dom status. i mean, you have any idea mean, do you have any idea how much going raise, do much that's going to raise, do you think? >> so understanding that >> so my understanding is that the will a the non—dom status will raise a significant amount of that significant amount of money that will addressing the will go into addressing the pubuc will go into addressing the pulhave. will go into addressing the pulhave . we have crumbling we have. we have crumbling infrastructure. i get people coming to my office and emailing my daily basis that my office on a daily basis that are lots of difficult are facing lots of difficult situations because of state situations because of the state of decline that the uk in. of decline that the uk is in. and labour will and the labour party will reverse is an exciting reverse that. it is an exciting conference. was good, conference. last year was good, this year even better . this year was even better. hopefully the next conference will place next annual will be taking place next annual conference in conference when labour is in government in government rather than in opposition. okay >> are you concerned you >> are you concerned that if you do non—doms massively, they do tax non—doms massively, they might leave and we might actually be worse off? >> i'm not concerned about that. the uk is a great place to live and i think people who live here should contribute fairly and i believe labour party believe and the labour party believes in a progressive tax system people the broadest
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system. people with the broadest shoulders more tax. shoulders should pay more tax. people incomes should people with lower incomes should pay people with lower incomes should pay less tax. people with lower incomes should pay okay. tax. people with lower incomes should payokay. tax. right. and one of >> okay. all right. and one of the big things as is things the big things as well is things like tax as well. and like windfall tax as well. and do you know exactly where this windfall tax is going to go ? windfall tax is going to go? because labour seem to say it's going to pay for quite a lot of things. so what is your understanding about if you if you increase a windfall tax on oil and gas, where is that? >> i can i can tell you the situation in which is that we have energy companies. we have oil and gas companies that have made billions and billions in the profits. the last few years in profits. what see is we have a what i want to see is we have a situation where the housing infrastructure in the country isn't good labour isn't good enough. labour has put plan to insulate put fonnard a plan to insulate 19 million homes will 19 million homes that will reduce energy cost energy reduce the energy cost energy bills people. reduce the energy cost energy billare people. reduce the energy cost energy billare pe(paying for that? >> are you paying for that? >> are you paying for that? >> there needs be >> well, there needs to be a scheme that will insulate homes. i you've mentioned of i mean, you've mentioned some of the mentioned some of the the you've mentioned some of the proposals, million proposals, 19 million of them. >> have to be >> that's going to have to be a scheme. well, it makes sense financially. >> it also makes sense environmentally to do that. i think rachel reeves made a
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fantastic speech earlier today. there'll lot more detail there'll be a lot more detail coming when manifesto coming out when our manifesto comes don't know. >> so you don't you don't know. >> so you don't you don't know. >> not here to >> well, i'm not here to represent the shadow treasury team, but i'm here as a labour mp. >> what do you think labour can do for gb news viewers? >> can it make them richer? >> how can it make them richer? well i think think be richer. well i think i think be richer. >> i think people people who watch gb know that watch gb news will know that unfortunate . a lot of things are unfortunate. a lot of things are broken in britain when it comes to waiting when it to nhs waiting lists. when it comes the broken promises on comes to the broken promises on high speed rail, when it comes to a number of issues, things are broken. we've had 13 years to a number of issues, things ar(conservative ve had 13 years to a number of issues, things ar(conservative mismanagedirs of conservative mismanaged moment chance moment and there is a chance next in the general next year in the general election vote progressive change. >> yeah, i think that there is a concern. i suppose , about concern. i suppose, about whether or not you're a bit squiffy when it comes. not you personally. party when it personally. the party when it comes to immigration and illegal immigration, what's on in immigration, what's going on in the channel? what's your understanding where labour understanding of where labour are of stopping are in terms of stopping the boats? their plan? boats? what's their plan? >> if you if you were to ask >> so if you if you were to ask me what are the 3 or 4 key issues that i received casework
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on in my inbox in my constituency, home office would be 3 unfortunately be top 3 or 4. unfortunately a lot of issues with people's passports coming passports not coming back in time, waiting for an time, people waiting for an asylum decision. all those asylum decision. all of those issues we've a long time, asylum decision. all of those issues had ve a long time, asylum decision. all of those issues had over a long time, asylum decision. all of those issues had over ten long time, asylum decision. all of those issues had over ten years :ime, asylum decision. all of those issues had over ten years of e, asylum decision. all of those issues had over ten years of the we've had over ten years of the conservatives running the home office ground. so one office into the ground. so one of fundamental with of the fundamental issues with the asylum with the the asylum system, with the immigration is that the the asylum system, with the immigoffice is that the the asylum system, with the immigoffice not is that the the asylum system, with the immigoffice not workingthe the asylum system, with the immigoffice not working for home office is not working for this of course, we this country. now, of course, we want see an end to illegal want to see an end to illegal criminal gangs. people smugglers, who profit smugglers, people who profit from modern day slavery, all of those we to tackle those things we want to tackle those, we need a those, but that means we need a home office that's fit for purpose . okay. and yvette cooper purpose. okay. and yvette cooper will when she is will deliver that when she is the secretary look like. will deliver that when she is thei secretary look like. will deliver that when she is thei mean, ecretary look like. will deliver that when she is thei mean, i'llltary look like. will deliver that when she is thei mean, i'll bey look like. will deliver that when she is thei mean, i'll be honestike. will deliver that when she is thei mean, i'll be honest with >> i mean, i'll be honest with you, the massive concern is that everyone on the waiting list or an application list i should say, is just going get waved say, is just going to get waved through say, is just going to get waved thr(|s;h going to happen, do >> is that going to happen, do you think? well, i'm not saying that. what to do that. i think what we need to do is need to make sure that is we need to make sure that home office is properly staffed and staff morale needs to be looked and need to make looked at. and we need to make sure fair, humane sure that we have a fair, humane system assessing
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system of assessing applications. >> do you worry there's not a big difference your big difference between your party tories? mean, party and the tories? i mean, what is this? what the what is this? what is the biggest between them? biggest difference between them? well, the well, obviously to me, the speech rachel reeves earlier speech and rachel reeves earlier was basically one. a was basically a almost one. a chancellor could given. >> well, the fundamental difference is and think your difference is and i think your viewers appreciate viewers will appreciate that most most public most of the things most public services country are services in this country are broken and they're working. broken and they're not working. and minister is not and the prime minister is not able blame previous able to blame the previous administration a administration because he was a chancellor previous chancellor in the previous administration. sure he administration. so i'm sure he is do that. and labour is trying to do that. and labour is trying to do that. and labour is offering a progressive change that will improve people's lives and of and the life expectancy of people in my constituency. >> thank you very >> well, look, thank you very much for coming on. great to have you at top of the show have you at the top of the show and see you again in and i hope to see you again in this conference as well. thank you very much, sir. navendu mishra who is the mp for mishra there, who is the mp for stockport. right. okay the stockport. right. okay so in the uk, police say they are uk, the met police say they are not treating an incident involving kosher restaurant involving a kosher restaurant in golders crime. golders green as a hate crime. shadow home secretary yvette cooper police sorry, cooper says the police sorry, the police in tackling supports the police in tackling supports the tackling the police apologies in tackling anti—jewish the police apologies in tackling anti—trulyh the police apologies in tackling anti—truly barbaric attacks after truly barbaric attacks against by hamas. let's against israel by hamas. let's cross now to golders green to
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speak to our national reporter theo chikomba . theo, thank you theo chikomba. theo, thank you very much. what's the latest where you are? please >> yes, well, very good afternoon to you , patrick. afternoon to you, patrick. >> well, this morning at 6:10, the police are received a report , sort of an incident here in golders green in north london. >> it was reported that there was damage and that a cash register was stolen. this morning, as you just mentioned, they're not treating this as a hate crime. investigations are still going on and they are looking to establish what has happenedin looking to establish what has happened in this area . above happened in this area. above where i'm standing at the moment is graffiti , which has been is graffiti, which has been painted on both sides of this bndge painted on both sides of this bridge which says free palestine. it's unclear, though , to at the moment whether these two events are linked in this area. we've spoken to many people throughout the day. some of whom have relatives who are , of whom have relatives who are, for example, at the music
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festival , which was taking place festival, which was taking place over the weekend, where around 250 bodies, we understand, have been found at that event. and of course, many people in this community are still trying to come to terms with what has happenedin come to terms with what has happened in terms of what others have said throughout the day. communities minister lee rowley has warned any potential protesters in the uk to be extremely cautious, saying they cannot glorify what hamas has donein cannot glorify what hamas has done in israel. and we've also heard from the chief rabbi of the united hebrew congregations of commonwealth, ephraim mirvis, who says jewish families in the uk have been affected by what has happened in the last few days one way or another. and he's saying every time they are speaking to people, they are asking them how is everyone in your family in this area, though, there's been increased police presence in the last couple of hours and indeed in the last few seconds, we have just seen a patrol just go past. so there are more police in this
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area and it's likely that's going to be the case for the rest of the day. this evening, though, we understand they are going protests which going to be some protests which have been organised, the have been organised, which the metropolitan police say there will there will be police presence there and they'll be taking place in various of london. various parts of london. >> look, theo, thank you very, very much. this theo chikomba there , of course, reporting from there, of course, reporting from golders green. look, for what it's worth , i'm pretty sure the it's worth, i'm pretty sure the vast majority of our viewers and listeners will know. but golders green is an area in london which is, you know, as a very high jewish population , therefore jewish population, therefore always a concern in that there was going to be some kind of issue and a flare up. i tell you what stood out for me before i go before i go to a break, i'm keen to get your views on this. gb views of gbnews.com. one thing that stood out for me in the immediate aftermath of what's happening real is how what's happening is real is how many people we clearly have in this country who are very willing to see israel wiped off the face of the earth and not justin the face of the earth and not just in this country. we've seen
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demons, nations in canada, we've seen demonstrations in the netherlands. we've seen demonstrations germany. netherlands. we've seen demonstrations germany . we've netherlands. we've seen dem(demonstrationsermany . we've netherlands. we've seen dem(demonstrations righty . we've netherlands. we've seen dem(demonstrations right over'e've seen demonstrations right over in greece as well. a asylum processing centre in greece . it processing centre in greece. it just makes me wonder, you know, realistically , is this the kind realistically, is this the kind of thing that we want or need over does it concern you, over here? does it concern you, gb or gbnews.com? but gb views or gbnews.com? but labour has unveiled its plan for the economy. in other news, rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, says that she wants to build a new era for economic security. when i come back, i'm going to be joined by the powerhouse that is liam halligan and the other powerhouse as well . andrew pierce, patrick . that is andrew pierce, patrick christys
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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. well well. >> welcome back. it's 3:26. you're watching or listening to me? patrick christys here in liverpool at the labour party conference. now the shadow chancellor keynote chancellor delivered her keynote speech this labour party speech at this labour party conference liverpool , conference here in liverpool, pledging to rebuild britain . pledging to rebuild britain. rachel reeves of restoring rachel reeves spoke of restoring economic security after, quote, years of tory chaos. let's have a little listen , shall we? this a little listen, shall we? this is what she had to say out of the wreckage of tory misrule , the wreckage of tory misrule, labour will restore our economic credibility . credibility. >> we will lift our living standards, make work pay, rebuild our public services, invest in home grown industries invest in home grown industries in every corner of our country, and together we will get britain its future back . okay this is
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its future back. okay this is very important. >> as the shadow chancellor, there essentially setting out supposedly an economic vision, we need to understand what this is with me at the labour conference in liverpool is our business and economics editor liam and as well we've liam halligan. and as well we've got andrew pierce for the political reaction. start political reaction. we'll start with you make with you, liam. what do you make of what she's of that then? well, what she's saying, what's is an saying, what's what's what is an economy under then? economy like under labour then? >> was a speech that was >> so this was a speech that was very, long on rhetoric for very, very long on rhetoric for the party faithful here, but it contained almost no specific policies that need more government spending . rachel government spending. rachel reeves a lot like gordon brown did in the mid to late 1990s as new labour came to power. she's trying to reassure financial markets and swing voters. middle england, if you like, that labour aren't to going irresponsibly tax and spend. what happened earlier this week is that government borrowing costs on financial markets rose to a 30 year high, not just here in the uk but in america in the eurozone, because financial
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markets are concluding, patrick, that interest rates are going to stay higher for longer and that that increases the amount of money the government has to spend servicing our massive stock of government debt. we currently spend 11% of all government spending on debt service, which is like dead money, just paying the interest on debt and so if she pledges to spend more money, it could spook financial markets in the way that liz truss spooked financial markets. though it's worth saying government borrowing costs are higher than costs now are way higher than they were at the time of the mini—budget that's why she talked about higher minimum talked about a higher minimum wage. well, business pays for that. government doesn't pay wage. well, business pays for thathat. government doesn't pay wage. well, business pays for thathat. that'snment doesn't pay wage. well, business pays for thathat. that's why1t doesn't pay wage. well, business pays for thathat. that's why she)esn't pay wage. well, business pays for thathat. that's why she threwpay for that. that's why she threw a bit sort of class war stuff bit of sort of class war stuff into the mix about about into the mix about taking about taking the ability of independent schools to not charge vat , not pay business charge vat, not pay business rates in terms of taxing and spending. it was a very, very cautious, almost non—event of a speech. >> can i just just before i bnng >> can i just just before i bring andrew in, sorry to keep you waiting, andrew, but it's an
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important point about the schools. we're going to be heanng schools. we're going to be hearing a lot of this over the course of the conference. we're seeing a bit of research last night. dangerous night. it was always dangerous and sure it makes and i'm not sure it makes a blind bit difference. does blind bit of difference. does it? schools, private schools? >> well, the government reckons they up to like five, they can make up to like five, £600 million if they get the vat in from independent schools . in from independent schools. parents are often hard stretched to pay school fees. they don't get charged. vat if you if the school passes on the full 20% vat, parents are going have to pay a vat, parents are going have to pay a fifth more. now at the top independent schools, the really kind of exclusive ones, parents are paying out out of interest. right. but the lesser public schools , if you like, the ones schools, if you like, the ones the ones that are more commonplace , parents are paying commonplace, parents are paying out tax income from out for after tax income from parents working really hard , parents working really hard, doing two absolutely. the doing two jobs. absolutely. the reality is, and i'm a governor of two independent schools, by the cards on the table, but the way, cards on the table, but a of independent schools a lot of independent schools feel they'll just have feel that they'll just have fewer parents. so there'll be even less money. and so
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actually, this could cost the government money. and then you'll have hundreds of thousands of kids currently independently and going independently educated and going on state sector . you'll on to the state sector. you'll have find places. have to find places. >> a of good schools >> there's a lot of good schools that to go bump for no that are going to go bump for no reason whatsoever, actually take away. >> the reason is class war. so it's cheap gag. it's a cheap it's a cheap gag. it's a cheap trick the party trick for the labour party faithful. they love it. it's an attack on the rich. that's what people an on people think. it's an attack on class. it reminds people that rishi sunak is part of the wealthiest family that's ever run because always run this country. because always at the of it, it's about at the back of it, it's about fiches at the back of it, it's about riches , wealth. can't talk riches, wealth. you can't talk to without dumb to anybody here without dumb stuff. and then there's the non—dom tax, is as the non—dom tax, which is old as the hills which they've spent hills and which they've spent that tax. liam i think that non—dom tax. liam i think probably 15 times already. all ready. and it's ready. it's ridiculous and it's raising a very just a few billion pounds but so non—doms and vat on these wealthy people will leave the country. and it's to say to the country, we're on the side of ordinary working people. of people. actually, i know lots of ordinary working people, some of my mates scrimped my mates who scrimped and scraped into scraped to get their kids into a small independent school. it
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won't eton, but it will won't affect eton, but it will the little school at the the little private school at the end street. right? end of your street. right? >> right. okay. wicked. so i know that in the middle of know that we're in the middle of a living crisis. i know a cost of living crisis. i know that vast majority people that the vast majority of people watching to this that the vast majority of people watch are to this that the vast majority of people watchare not to this that the vast majority of people watchare not going to this that the vast majority of people watchare not going to to this that the vast majority of people watchare not going to be this that the vast majority of people watchare not going to be sitting show are not going to be sitting there counting their millions. right. but labour hate the right. but does labour hate the rich, think? rich, do you think? >> yes, but they're wooing the rich. pouring rich. the millions are pouring in. they're charging businessmen and pounds the and women 2500 pounds to the business conference here today. they're bringing millions they're bringing the millions are the coffers are pouring into the coffers because business aces think they want to on the side the want to be on the side of the winners. they want to on winners. they want to be on the side the winners. and labour side of the winners. and labour look they want to look like they want access to the winners. >> for a second, because >> just for a second, because i think we're going to go to gaza now. live shots where my understanding is there's been an absolutely yes, absolutely huge explosion. yes, there been. just taken there has been. it's just taken place are looking place there. so we are looking at gaza. there of course, this is the ongoing feud after the hamas terrorist stormed into israel and then the israelis are fighting back. we are yet, as i
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understand it anyway, to see some kind of land slash troop invasion of gaza. but that is thatis invasion of gaza. but that is that is an absolutely huge explosion, at least one, i would say possibly two. just judging by the billows of smoke there. those are live scenes from gaza. we're going to keep with that story throughout the course of this show. of course, and very personal well, given where we personal as well, given where we are at the moment. the labour party conference, labour has had a track record, a pretty fruity track record, it's when comes it's fair to say, when it comes to palestine. there are some people think people outside, but i think jeremy we shouldn't jeremy corbyn and we shouldn't forget corbyn is still forget jeremy corbyn is still a member of the labour party. >> he's no longer the >> he's no longer in the parliamentary party, parliamentary labour party, he still member. labour party still a member. the labour party refusing hamas for refusing to condemn hamas for their activities . they their terrorist activities. they are his friends. >> about friends in >> he talks about our friends in hamas. got to be hamas. he has. we've got to be careful this ghastly image on our screen represents you our screen represents us. you know, perhaps shapps awfully. you know, the death of civilians, of individuals . and civilians, of individuals. and we're seeing in liverpool , can we're seeing in liverpool, can we're seeing in liverpool, can we really sort of paint some political analysis over it? but the reality is we are here in
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liverpool and this is difficult for the labour party because quite a lot of the labour party , a rank and file members will have a lot of sympathy with hamas. yeah, they do. and that's something that the party leadership has to manage. >> yeah, it's a massive test anyway, so that was live footage there from gaza. look, loads more still to come between now and 4:00, 300 people have and 4:00, around 300 people have crossed to enter the crossed the channel to enter the uk over last few days. uk over the last few days. meanwhile the government's plan to send illegal migrants to rwanda back in courtroom. rwanda is back in the courtroom. yes, but first, it's the latest headunes yes, but first, it's the latest headlines a little bit later than planned with the wonderful . tamsin >> patrick, thanks very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom . here are the headlines newsroom. here are the headlines at 333 rockets, sirens have been heard in jerusalem amid the ongoing fighting between hamas and the israeli army . israel's and the israeli army. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country's response to the attack by hamas will change the middle east. israel has declared war with
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hamas after a surprise attack by the terrorist group on saturday. israel's defence minister has ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip , cutting off food, gaza strip, cutting off food, fuel and electricity. more than 800 people have been killed in israel and 500in gaza since then . the shadow chancellor says her party is ready to rebuild britain. speaking at the labour party conference in liverpool, rachel reeves spoke of restoring economic security after what she calls the chaos of the tory years. she says labour plans to revamp the uk's outdated planning system to boost the economy . she the government is economy. she the government is defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda in the supreme court over the next three days. several cases, collectively known as the rwanda appeals, will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling refugees . those halt resettling refugees. those are the top stories . and you are the top stories. and you can, of course, get more on all
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education minister is toby perkins and i think though, first we are going to remind ourselves of what's been happening in gaza because just before we went to the news bulletin there, there was a massive explosion in gaza . so we massive explosion in gaza. so we can bring you pictures of that . can bring you pictures of that. now, look, obviously, ongoing conflict there. it doesn't look like it's going to stop any time soon, it? are awaiting soon, does it? we are awaiting some information just see some information just to see whether not there's been any whether or not there's been any fatalities. but clearly that is at one huge explosion in at least one huge explosion in the last few minutes in gaza . we the last few minutes in gaza. we will bring you more updates on the ongoing conflict, the war, as benjamin netanyahu described it , going on as benjamin netanyahu described it, going on in israel and palestine. so we will leave that there just for now. and return to it now. yeah. so as i was saying, i am delighted to be joined by labour mp for chesterfield on the shadow education minister, toby perkins. you very perkins. toby, thank you very much coming think we much for coming on. i think we do have to start with that. to be fair, you stand with be fair, do you stand with israel? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i stand with the >> i mean, i stand with the people heart goes people of israel. my heart goes
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out those people who are out to those people who are under indiscriminate attack , under indiscriminate attack, utterly condemn the actions that hamas have taken . hamas have taken. >> it's quite appalling that they they would have acted in they they would have acted in the way that they have . and the way that they have. and israel absolutely has a right to defend itself. and that's not the same as saying everything the same as saying everything the israel government has done in the past that i support. of course, it isn't. but in terms of this particular event, that's happenedin of this particular event, that's happened in the course of the last 48 hours, it is quite appalling. and the thoughts of everyone should go out to people under under threat for their lives. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> as labour party do you >> as the labour party do you think puts a bed some of the issues that it may have had issues that it it may have had when comes anti—semitism, when it comes to anti—semitism, i really i think keir i suppose really i think keir starmer made it an absolute priority for him to say that the labour party will be zero tolerance on anti—semitism . tolerance on anti—semitism. >> i think that we've made huge progress . what does that mean? progress. what does that mean? that you know, every person in the party will say exactly what i will say . probably not. but
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i will say. probably not. but you know, i think there is still issues with anti—semitism in the country. but i think the labour party is not an institutionally anti—semitic party. and we've got a leader who promised to tear antisemitism out by his roots. and i think he's stuck to that. >> okay. i think i'll get you. i'll you on brief, if that's i'll get you on brief, if that's all right. we'll have a have all right. and we'll have a have all right. and we'll have a have a little chat about education, if that's okay with you. >> say that i'm >> i should say to you that i'm actually, of the recent actually, as of the recent reshuffle, now the shadow nature and affairs minister. so and rural affairs minister. so apologies if that ruins your interview. oh, well, there we go . moved about. >> you know, you what i >> you know, i tell you what i can do.i >> you know, i tell you what i can do. i can ask you about oak trees instead, if that's possible. no, tell you possible. no, i'll tell you what. let's a chat, though. what. let's have a chat, though. seriously about of what. let's have a chat, though. serieconomics about of what. let's have a chat, though. serieconomics behind of what. let's have a chat, though. serieconomics behind labourf what. let's have a chat, though. serieconomics behind labour at the economics behind labour at the economics behind labour at the moment. when it comes to the moment. so when it comes to things private things like like the private schools, really think it schools, do you really think it is best thing for the is the best thing for the country to slap a load of additional on private additional taxes on private schools, you think? additional taxes on private schijls, you think? additional taxes on private schi think you think? additional taxes on private schi think iyou think? additional taxes on private schi think i thinkiink? additional taxes on private schi think i think what's good >> i think i think what's good for the country is to see private schools treated in the same way as others. it's not about private being
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about private schools being treated a treated worse. it's about the a level playing field. and it's also about using the money. that tax loophole provides make tax loophole provides to make sure that those schools that are underfunded are able to be lifted. we're not against private . we are against private schools. we are against the inequality from where i'm looking at it anyway. >> your schools like eton and harrow and west minster, the proper, proper elite schools , proper, proper elite schools, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference, though, because those parents are so wealthy that they can just they could send them there twice. but it's your ordinary private schools where, you know, quite a few of them on bursaries few of them are on bursaries anyway. and all of that stuff that probably as that will probably be closed as a mean, what's the a result. i mean, what's the point of that? >> i mean, i reject the >> well, i mean, i reject the idea that are all going to idea that there are all going to close. there's only 7.5% of people are are educated privately . i we believe that privately. i we believe that having private schools on the same tax footing as state schools is a legitimate move. it's up to the private schools how they respond to that. do they increase their fees? do they increase their fees? do they change the services? do
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they change the services? do they actually make smaller surpluses ? that's up to them to surpluses? that's up to them to respond. and if they're saying if you treat the same as if you treat us the same as state will no longer be state schools will no longer be able operate, that tells us able to operate, that tells us quite the model. i think. >> what money does it raise? what about what money does it raise? why are doing it? what raise? why are we doing it? what money getting? money are we getting? >> it will be raising, i think about £35 billion. and i mean, obviously different obviously there's different arguments. response arguments. partly the response of the private schools to it will dictate how much it's will dictate how much money it's raised, how much money it raises. but but ultimately, you know it comes down to is know what? it comes down to is private schools. why should private schools. why should private schools. why should private schools have a special advantage over state schools in private schools have a special advan' of e over state schools in private schools have a special advan'of their r state schools in private schools have a special advan'of their taxate schools in private schools have a special advan' of their tax treatment; in private schools have a special advan' of their tax treatment ?n terms of their tax treatment? >> okay. i mean, do you think as well with things like a windfall tax been the one of the tax has been the one of the talks of this conference so far anyway, when it comes to oil and gas companies? now they already pay gas companies? now they already pay about 75% tax on everything they make. obviously, they do make enough . make billions. so fair enough. would you like to see labour hiked up even more, do you think? >> well, i think what we've said
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is, is it's not a windfall tax on penny make. it's on every penny they make. it's on every penny they make. it's on the excess profits that have come fonnard as a result of putin's illegal war in ukraine. drove up the cost of oil . they drove up the cost of oil. they didn't do some some some thing remarkable that suddenly made them profitable . they saw them profitable. they saw a spike in their prices as a result. and so taxing that that excess profit , i result. and so taxing that that excess profit, i think, is entirely reasonable. and actually, you know, we are committed to a fair economy. we're not against organisations that make investments , but we do that make investments, but we do think that the profits have been excessive and that money can be reutilised and. all right. >> okay. i've got to ask you, whilst you're here, what is labour going to do to stop the boats? >> sorry, what are they going to do to stop boats? i mean, do to stop the boats? i mean, the first thing that we need to do is to break the business model. we to be tougher model. we need to be far tougher in terms of the people traffickers. there's far too little going little effort going into international get international cooperation to get these people arrested and get them with. secondly, we
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them dealt with. secondly, we need incentive so need to remove the incentive so we need to get people processed in the first place overseas. so that those who do have a legitimate claim are able to come and those that aren't are rejected, it. rejected, i take it. >> you against rwanda? are >> are you against rwanda? are you. >> we are absolutely against rwanda. we don't don't rwanda. we don't we don't believe it's going to work. secondly, the government secondly, even if the government were to get around people were to get around 400 people in rwanda to i mean, it's a diversion. it's a it's a pinprick . but i think that the pinprick. but i think that the real priority is about government doing its job. i went to the hotel in chesterfield that houses now 123 asylum seekers . and i met people there seekers. and i met people there who who have been here for over a year without their claims, having been processed. we now starting finally the government is starting to process those claims every single person who's had their claim processed has been allowed to stay . the been allowed to stay. the government haven't found huge numbers of them were illegal claims. they've decided they can all stay. but in the meantime the taxpayer's been in hock for huge amounts for those people
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because the government hadn't done their job. >> okay. i suppose the fear would be that labour is just going to wave everyone through. >> well, i'd say i don't want that. i don't want that. i don't think that's what will happen. what i think at the moment is the government are effectively waving people through because the government are effectively wavirweweople through because the government are effectively wavirwe haves through because the government are effectively wavirwe have is1rough because the government are effectively wavirwe have is huge] because the government are effectively wavirwe have is huge numbers what we have is huge numbers arriving beach. we have arriving on the beach. we have a government that's failing to process them and we have people staying hotels, some of which staying in hotels, some of which should have home and should have been sent home and others should be working. should have been sent home and oth toby, should be working. should have been sent home and oth toby, thank ould be working. should have been sent home and oth toby, thank youi be working. should have been sent home and oth toby, thank you very, iorking. should have been sent home and oth toby, thank you very, very|g. >> toby, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. really appreciate it, sir. toby perkins there, who is the labour for chesterfield and labour mp for chesterfield and formerly education formerly the shadow education minister . what minister as well. what are you now? >> n ature now? >> nature and rural. >> rural nature and rural. >> rural nature and rural. >> sorry, i do apologise. thank you much. anyway, you very much. anyway, it's great get that out there. now great to get that out there. now labour setting out plan labour is setting out his plan for the future, if the party for the future, but if the party did the next election, how did win the next election, how would it work with the european union? always union? it's always an interesting when it interesting question. when it comes to labour
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me, michael portillo gb news britain's news. me, michael portillo gb news britain's news . channel britain's news. channel >> welcome back to liverpool. the labour party conference here with me patrick christys now gb news understands that more than 300 migrants crossed the channel to uk the last two days to the uk in the last two days alone . it continues to pile the alone. it continues to pile the pressure rishi sunak, who's pressure on rishi sunak, who's pledged with the crisis, pledged to deal with the crisis, has a critical point, as has reached a critical point, as is rwanda plan has faced the supreme court. today, the court of appeal ruled in june that the scheme to deport illegal migrants to the african country
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was unlawful , lawful. i'm joined was unlawful, lawful. i'm joined now by by ray addison, who is , now by by ray addison, who is, of course, our reporter who's outside the supreme court for us today . ray, what's the latest, today. ray, what's the latest, please ? please? >> good afternoon, patrick. yes, well , we know that sir james well, we know that sir james eady, who's representing the home office, has stressed today in his opening remarks to the supreme court that rwanda represents a safe but less attractive country than the united kingdom. he's trying to stress that there are numerous safeguards in place to make sure that migrants who are deported to rwanda will be protected. while they're there. one of those safeguards would be an independent monitoring committee who can report back and keep track of individual migrants safety as they go through that application process . also, home application process. also, home office officials will be based at the british high commission in kigali. that's, of course, rwanda's capital. and they'll have a right to observe every
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single stage of that process. s now, in many ways it's fair to say i think, that this is the last roll of the dice for the conservative government on this particular rwanda policy. those supreme court judges are particular rwanda policy. those supreme courtjudges are going supreme court judges are going to be determining some some key questions over this three day here thing one does removing my grants to rwanda actually breach article three of the european convention on human rights? of course, that's the article that prohibits torture and inhuman , prohibits torture and inhuman, inhumane or degrading treatment. and secondly, was the court of appeal right to conclude that rwanda was not a safe third country? the key concern being there that migrants might be sent by rwanda after processing back to their home countries. and of course, many migrants who've claimed asylum will say that they are fleeing oppression in that country and of course, sending them back, they say, would therefore be extremely dangerous. now, the government, of course, is arguing that this rwanda policy will save lives,
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the lives of migrants who choose to that perilous journey to take that perilous journey across the channel. as you were just saying, patrick gb news understands that around 300 have made that journey over the last two days. the uk coastguard as well being called out to some kind of incident. this morning on the water off the shores of dover. on the water off the shores of dover . and of course, it is an dover. and of course, it is an extremely perilous journey and many migrants have died trying to make it . many migrants have died trying to make it. now, of course, it won'tjust to make it. now, of course, it won't just be the home office submitting their evidence. we're heanng submitting their evidence. we're hearing evidence as well for lawyers for the migrants. there's a number migrants who there's a number of migrants who are actually on that plane back in 2022 that we all sat and watched for hours, which which never left the runway there from countries include countries including include vietnam, , iraq, iran vietnam, syria, iraq, iraq, iran and sudan . they nearly all of and sudan. they nearly all of them, apart from one travelled to the uk in small boats and now their claims for asylum were ruled inadmissible by the former home secretary and one of the
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arguments that the representatives for the migrants are going to be saying is that the uk is still governed by the asylum procedures directive that's retained eu law, they argue. and if that is actually the case, then it means that under that directive you cannot send out a migrant, you cannot deport a migrant to a country that they have absolutely no connection to. and these test cases, so, so to speak, that we're hearing in the supreme court over this three day period have no connection to rwanda. raza husain kc is representing several of those asylum seekers in written submissions . he has in written submissions. he has said that the government has got itself in a bit of a bind, a bit of a paradox because on the one hand they're saying that rwanda is an unattractive un appealing country, that migrant that will make migrants stop that make migrants stop making that crossing. but on the other hand, they're so they're saying it's safe. and so thatis they're saying it's safe. and so that is the part of the legal argument that will be heard over these three days.
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>> ray, thank you very , very >> ray, thank you very, very much. that's ray allison there, of course, on the steps of the supreme court, just filling you in on what is an absolutely massive story for the vast majority of viewers. and our majority of our viewers. and our listeners, course, is what on listeners, of course, is what on earth is going to go on with rwanda? shadow foreign rwanda? well, shadow foreign secretary david lammy said secretary david lammy has said that this conference is that britain dating the britain will start dating the european when interesting european union when interesting use word when labour use of the word when labour gains . in keynote gains power. so in his keynote speech, zahawi described brexit as a very , very bitter divorce. as a very, very bitter divorce. and whilst keir starmer has stated that he will not reverse brexit, he has pledged a new deal with the bloc. when the trade negotiations come up in 2025. with me now is the former editor of labourlist . it's peter editor of labourlist. it's peter edwards. peter, great to have you on the show. nice to see you outside of paddington as well. it's quite nice, actually. right. look, so what dating right. look, so what is dating the like then? well the eu look like then? well i think it's a light—hearted remark, it's trying remark, really, and it's trying to from a year or so to move us on from a year or so ago where liz truss, then the to move us on from a year or so ago wiminister,russ, then the to move us on from a year or so ago wiminister, infamouslyhe to move us on from a year or so ago wiminister, infamously said prime minister, infamously said she sure if france was she wasn't sure if france was our our phone. our friend or our phone. >> they're one of our nearest
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neighbours. so labour of course, you around us here, you know, all around us here, all the talk at labour conferences about international cooperation. but honouring brexit. do think, you think >> do you think, do you think people date eu? people want to date the eu? >> was a light >> i think that was a light hearted way of putting what government do, which government has got to do, which is close economic and is have close economic and security ties with the and security ties with the bloc and obviously you have obviously in liverpool you have the who the labour membership who generally but generally are very pro eu, but we've seen government are we've seen the government are going very sober, almost going to be very sober, almost technocratic because we've got all things all these technical things from veterinary border veterinary science to the border with northern securing with northern ireland, securing intelligence sharing you intelligence sharing where you need relationship rather than need a relationship rather than a . a bust up. >> okay. all right. i think people might be slightly concerned as to, you know, whether or not like lots of dates, it might end quite badly. but we'll have to wait and see. isupposei but we'll have to wait and see. i suppose i was going to make a joke then, but i'm not allowed. it's pre—watershed do you think that the european union, that dating the european union, i might see that as i mean, people might see that as a of dragging us back in? a way of dragging us back in? >> i don't think so, because keir starmer has been explicit about we won't go back in, we won't have a referendum and we
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won't have a referendum and we won't rejoin the single market or accept freedom movement. but i'll other quick i'll give you one other quick thought, which is david lammy made light—hearted thought, which is david lammy macthe light—hearted thought, which is david lammy macthe clearer—hearted thought, which is david lammy macthe clearer indication of but the clearer indication of the leadership's view is on the motions that will be debated. and the leadership we're and the leadership said, we're not have a debate on not going to have a debate on the this week. the eu this week. >> peter, thank you very, very much. peter edwards there. right. in just right. coming up in just a moment, i'll have all the latest for on the shocking scenes for you on the shocking scenes in the middle in israel. in the middle east in israel. patrick gb news patrick christys gb news fryston. i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg jewhurst to your jewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. we'll see some low cloud latest gb news weather forecast. we'lfogle some low cloud latest gb news weather forecast. we'lfog developing, low cloud latest gb news weather forecast. we'lfog developing, particularlyd and fog developing, particularly across parts of england and fog developing, particularly acro wales, parts of england and fog developing, particularly acrowales, but parts of england and fog developing, particularly acro wales, but furthernf england and fog developing, particularly acro wales, but further heavyand and wales, but further heavy rain pushing scotland . rain pushing into scotland. that's courtesy of weather fronts pushing through over the next days. this weather next few days. this weather front are dividing line between warm the south and colder warm air to the south and colder air to come into the air trying to come into the north by the middle of the week. we've already got cloud and we've already got that cloud and rain spilling into parts of northern ireland, pushing into western scotland as we move through the through this evening into the early turning early hours, elsewhere turning quite there'll be some early hours, elsewhere turning quiteand there'll be some early hours, elsewhere turning quiteand lowere'll be some early hours, elsewhere turning quiteand low cloudje some early hours, elsewhere turning quiteand low cloud developing by mist and low cloud developing by the the night, the end of the night, particularly across south
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news britain's new. channel >> welcome back to liverpool. it is of course the labour party conference with me patrick christys on gb news to more bumper hours ahead for you. a whole host of labour mps, even the labour mayor we're going to be talking about the latest from israel of course, israel and gaza. of course, massive taking place massive explosions taking place as speak in gaza. we'll bring as we speak in gaza. we'll bring you an update on death toll, you an update on the death toll, an update, as to an update, of course, as to whether not there is that whether or not there is that long awaited land invasion from the israelis closer home. the israelis closer to home. now, going be talking now, i'm going to be talking about tax. what are about tax, tax, tax. what are the labour party's policies? what they stand for? it is what do they stand for? it is time their feet to time now to hold their feet to the me patrick the fire. join me patrick christys news . christys tv news. >> very good. >> very good. >> yes , loads on today. >> yes, loads on today. christopher hope will join me right at the top of the show. then i've got liam halligan, then i've got a couple of labour mps. even got a labour mps. i've even got a labour mayor for you. it's all to going kick right off. gb views a gb news com. make sure you get news dot com. make sure you get in you feel about in touch. how do you feel about the prospect? the real the prospect? the very real
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prospect government? prospect of a labour government? but is coming your but all of that is coming your way, plus much more after your headunes way, plus much more after your headlines with . patrick. headlines with. patrick. >> thank you, patrick was going to say with polly middlehurst, that's with you this afternoon with the news and the main story is that rocket sirens have been heard in jerusalem amid the ongoing fighting between hamas heard in jerusalem amid the ongtthe fighting between hamas heard in jerusalem amid the ongtthe israeliig between hamas heard in jerusalem amid the ongtthe israeli armyween hamas heard in jerusalem amid the ongtthe israeli army .een hamas and the israeli army. >> israel has declared war with hamas after a surprise attack by the terrorist group on saturday. more than 800 people are believed to have been killed in israel and 500 in gaza since then. israel and 500 in gaza since then . israel's defence minister then. israel's defence minister has ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip, cutting off food , fuel and electricity . israel's , fuel and electricity. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country's response to the attack will change the middle east. israeli media is reporting that 300,000 reservists have now been called up in the largest ever draft in the country. israel daily expats at frankfurt airport who fled
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the violence shared their experiences . experiences. >> tension is quite high. a lot of uncertainty of what to do . we of uncertainty of what to do. we don't know. >> i don't have enough words to tell you about the feelings is the words are yeah, it's horror , but it's not safe. >> and it's just we don't know what will come. that's the worst i >> we'll hear the foreign secretary says the government will review its support to israel and to british nationals in the country . meanwhile, in the country. meanwhile, scotland's first minister says his wife's parents are trapped in gaza after visiting family there. homes yusuf says he's not sure if they'll make it through the night . sure if they'll make it through the night. and sure if they'll make it through the night . and unequivocally at the night. and unequivocally at the night. and unequivocally at the same time , he condemned the the same time, he condemned the hamas attacks. speaking after a government cobra meeting, james cleverly said hamas is attack is unpressed identied. >> we reaffirm our support to israel in its self—defence against this terrorist attack
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perpetrated by hamas, against unarmed civilians. in many instances , as i've been speaking instances, as i've been speaking with foreign ministers from around the region and beyond , around the region and beyond, the prime minister has engaged with the israeli prime minister and will be engaging with our allies . this and will be engaging with our allies. this is an ongoing situation and of course we will be reviewing our support to israel and of course, british nationals in israel as the situation progresses . situation progresses. >> james cleverly speaking a short time ago, well, the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy, says the labour party views attacks on israel as utterly appalling . appalling. >> there is never , never a >> there is never, never a justification for terrorism. labour stands firmly in support of israel's right to defend itself, rescue hostages and protect its citizens . the protect its citizens. the hostages so cruelly taken
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including children, should be released immediately . and released immediately. and hamas's indiscriminate attacks set back the cause of peace . set back the cause of peace. >> well, at the same conference in liverpool, the shadow chancellor said her party was ready to rebuild britain. she was speaking in liverpool, rachel reeves. that is about the restoring the economic, economic security after what she called the chaos of the tory years. she said labour plans to revamp the uk's local town planning departments in order to boost the economy . and she also the economy. and she also confirmed plans to overhaul all planning rules to speed up energy and 5g projects. she says the choice at the next general election is five more years of tory chaos or a changed labour party. so out of the wreckage of tory misrule, labour will restore our economic credibility. >> we will lift our living standards and make work pay ,
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standards and make work pay, rebuild our public services and invest in home grown industries invest in home grown industries in every corner of our country. and together we will get britain its future back . its future back. >> now the government's been defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda in the supreme court today , lawyers supreme court today, lawyers representing the home office have told the court that the policy to remove people to a country that is safe but less attractive than the uk is lawful. so james eady saying the government has attached considerable importance to the deal over the next three days, several cases collectively known as the rwanda appeals, will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling refugees . more than 400 refugees. more than 400 criminals have been jailed for over 3000, for a total of 3700 years, often operation by the metropolitan police operation. an eternal investigated organised crime groups over
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three and a half year period by targeting an encrypted messaging platform. more than three tonnes of class a and b drugs and nearly 50 guns were seized in the largest ever operation of its kind by the metropolitan police, with the force calling it unprecedented and year with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> all right, welcome along . >> all right, welcome along. welcome back to liverpool. it is, of course, the labour party conference. it's all go here now. prime minister rishi sunak is currently chairing an emergency cobra meeting. not here, response here, of course. in response to the continuing bloodshed the the continuing bloodshed as the death surpassed death toll has now surpassed 1300. i am , of course, talking 1300. i am, of course, talking about israel and palestine for our radio listeners, we are
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currently showing live pictures of the gaza skyline where it actually does look like another explosion is taking place right now this second. so now for people who are watching us, you will see what is in the centre of your screen at the moment. if you're listening on radio, i'll talk you through it. it is, of course, gaza. there's the kind of relatively high rise buildings, housing buildings, the kind of housing that got there. what is that you've got there. what is on at the minute is on the screen at the minute is i think the explosion that we actually to you probably actually brought to you probably about 20 minutes ago to the left of that, i don't know if the camera is going that way, camera is going to go that way, but there has just another but there has just been another big explosion. there's a cluster there. you a cluster of there. you can see a cluster of explosions. and i believe we can actually you some footage actually bring you some footage of explosion a little bit of an explosion a little bit earlier on, which think we earlier on, which i think we might to bring you now. might be able to bring you now. i can show you that i think so. we can show you that from so this was the from gaza. so this was the moment an explosion moment where an explosion vision. you go . oh, good vision. there you go. oh, good grief . yeah, that was gaza. vision. there you go. oh, good grief. yeah, that was gaza. his gaza and the israelis are clearly launching retaliation
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after the hamas terror group stormed into israel yesterday, took hostages numerous hostages. just a reminder for you that the current death toll, as we understand it, is around 1300 and other explosion going off that look, we'll bring you the very latest, of course, continuing in gaza. there were those airstrikes that have taken place. i mean, in fact, it is actually anticipated potentially that we might see some kind of ground infiltration from from the israelis. obviously, the sacking that happens. if it happens, we'll bring that to you live. now let's get back to conference to where we are now in liverpool. of course, thankfully safely. and our political christopher political editor christopher hope now. christopher, hope joins me now. christopher, what set the scene for us? what's happened here? what's been big news today? been the big news today? >> well, it's been it's been more of a mood music, really, from shadow shadow from the from the shadow shadow chancellor rachel reeves. she's made they want made very clear what they want to startle the horses, to do is startle the horses, panic anybody. she's made very clear that she talked about her mum her big speech at mum in her big speech at lunchtime counting out lunchtime, her mum counting out the at home. message
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the pennies at home. the message is, your the is, i'll look after your the nation's finances. don't worry, vote for us. more planners . not vote for us. more planners. not a of big policy we didn't a lot of big policy we didn't know about going after the money went missing during the covid pandemic. big cheer pandemic. that got a big cheer on the news stand. i noted. on the gb news stand. i noted. but i think it does seem to me that the party is just trying to tiptoe office. no big, tiptoe into office. no, no big, big announcement tax taxation big announcement on tax taxation or ways to enrich our viewers. >> yeah, don't mess it up. i think. yeah it's the thing. joining me now is as you will have got a sneak peek of that is dame meg hillier, mp and chair of accounts of the public accounts committee. thank very much. committee. thank you very much. it's have you on the it's great to have you on the show. so first things show. pleasure so first things first you stand with israel? >> of course i mean, israel has a right defend itself. a right to defend itself. >> it's tragic, though, that >> and it's tragic, though, that that death toll is now is not just creeping up, going up exponentially. >> and this does help any of >> and this does not help any of the citizens of israel the ordinary citizens of israel or palestine. of course, or palestine. but, of course, israel has right to israel absolutely has a right to defend it was shocking defend itself. it was shocking what happened. >> yeah, there is a cohort outside sure you're aware of outside i'm sure you're aware of very, pro—palestinian
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very, very pro—palestinian individuals . what would you say individuals. what would you say to them? because i mean, labour has had a bit of an issue there in the past, hasn't it? look, i think when a sovereign country is attacked in the way that israel was, i mean invaded indeed by people taking hostages, killing people door to door you know , nobody should door or, you know, nobody should be celebrating that in way be celebrating that in any way whatsoever . whatsoever. >> and it's absolutely right that have right that they have the right to defend themselves. that they have the right to def okaylemselves. that they have the right to defokay .emselves. >> okay. >> okay. >> yeah, i'm very clear on that. i think a lot of people will be quite sure about that. i think it's fair to say. so terms of it's fair to say. so in terms of what has been said today so far at conference, i mean, there's been quite bit of talk as well been quite a bit of talk as well about, you know, things like non—dom status, for example. i mean, you think that the mean, do you think that the pubuc mean, do you think that the public can expect to just be taxed on the labour? taxed more on the labour? >> sorry, i didn't hear. it's very sorry very noisy. sorry >> interest expense >> the public interest expense to a lot more under to be taxed a lot more under labouris to be taxed a lot more under labour is that the reality of the situation? >> no, no. >> no, no. >> i think we're being >> i mean i think we're being really clear that reeves. really clear that rachel reeves. i think it's fair to say she was putting quite rightly, putting fonnard, quite rightly, the confident, calm, calm, consistent approach that a
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labour government would bring, which i think actually is needed in chaos in this country after the chaos of couple of years, let of the last couple of years, let alone but she did alone the last 13. but she did also make some big announcements, be fair, announcements, to be fair, chris, know, making chris, about, you know, making sure we're changing the sure that we're changing the planning system to see investment. and there's lot investment. and there's a lot of private money that wants to invest country, pension invest in our country, pension funds and that is funds included. and that is a way funding some of these way of funding some of these mechanist isms. that mechanist isms. and then that generates growth keir keir generates growth and keir keir starmer clear. as starmer is very clear. and as rachel that you rachel reeves that if you generate then you generate that growth, then you can the money, but you can spend the money, but you can't spend the money until you've you've earned it. >> worry, maggie, there's >> do you worry, maggie, there's not pledge card slogan not a pledge card slogan we remember, don't we? >> education, education, education. >> this is dating us. >> this is dating us. >> think some of the >> chris we think some of the listeners viewers listeners and viewers might remember the right slogans. >> wonder is keir >> i wonder what is keir starmer's you had starmer's slogan if you had a boiling few words in a boiling down to a few words in a petri dish, what's left? >> well, actually, think it's >> well, actually, i think it's fairness and opportunity. if i had it down and if you had to boil it down and if you look the missions don't look at the missions and don't ask me to go through all five because at this because that this even at this point in conference, i i'll find that hard to remember every word. but is that's word. but that is that's partly
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he's those he's looking at some of those challenging issues across government as s0 challenging issues across government as so if you government as well. so if you look say, for example, in my look at say, for example, in my constituency wanting children constituency wanting to children live child live in poverty. so child poverty that poverty is something that we need address in country. need to address in this country. loads young and loads of people, young and older, can't afford to buy their own home. he wants people older, can't afford to buy their on own me. he wants people older, can't afford to buy their on own theirie wants people older, can't afford to buy their omown their own|nts people older, can't afford to buy their omown their own home. people older, can't afford to buy their omown their own home. so people older, can't afford to buy their omown their own home. so allzople older, can't afford to buy their omown their own home. so all ofwle to own their own home. so all of those things need a lot of work across different parts of government and it can't be boiled down sometimes simple boiled down sometimes to simple pledges dare pledges and the danger is, dare i that you journalists i say it, that you journalists say many how much? it's say how many how much? and it's actually and actually yeah, well exactly and if you're not careful, you get into if you're not careful, you get int(that's important. >> that's important. >> that's important. >> you're not careful. >> but you're not careful. >> but you're not careful. >> you can get into a mad auction. you know, they want 2000 these nurses, 2000 more of these nurses, teachers it may be. teachers or whatever it may be. so better say 3 or 4000. so we'd better say 3 or 4000. and you into a silly game and you get into a silly game there. need to do is there. what we need to do is look at what the problems are and that is. and we know what that is. underinvestment in hospital underinvestment in our hospital buildings in schools underinvestment in schools 700,000 pupils at school in inadequate that's not 700,000 pupils at school in inadthe ate that's not 700,000 pupils at school in inadthe ones that's not 700,000 pupils at school in inadthe ones with that's not 700,000 pupils at school in inadthe ones with reinforced not just the ones with reinforced concrete and you've concrete problems. and you've got housing got huge problems with housing of levels. right? so there of many levels. right? so there the is and there's the challenge is and there's going for job the challenge is and there's going forjob labour going to be a big forjob labour to sort out the mess that we've
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be left. >> chair of the >> you're the chair of the pubuc >> you're the chair of the public committee. your >> you're the chair of the pubis: committee. your >> you're the chair of the pubis to committee. your >> you're the chair of the pubis to analyse :ommittee. your >> you're the chair of the pubis to analyse whitehall your job is to analyse whitehall spending behalf spending on behalf of parliament. do you think just changing a minutes is to changing a few minutes is to going can mend that of going can mend that kind of broken system you're describing? >> it's be >> i think it's going to be a big challenge. i don't think it's land of it's going to be the land of milk and honey. and i think people do need to be aware of that. that's been such a mess left. and know what happened left. and you know what happened a under liz truss has a year ago under liz truss has caused such a dent, i mean, in a confidence of anybody to invest in all and in britain, all of us. and britain broken. it britain really is broken. it takes while to come back takes a long while to come back from so think people from that. so i think people need be aware. i'd need to be aware. i mean, i'd love to overnight we can do love to say overnight we can do all the things i'd like to see donein all the things i'd like to see done in my constituency and across country, i know across the country, and i know it's going to slower, it's going to be a slower, longer it was in longer challenge than it was in 97 there was more available 97 when there was more available to spend. >> but one of the major issues for people is, is immigration both illegal? okay we both legal and illegal? okay we are have seen a few are we have seen a few instances, unfortunately, after what happening what happened is still happening in like golders in israel, places like golders green. going there green. we're going to go there shortly. there to shortly. where there appears to have of attack on
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have been some kind of attack on a shop. we've seen a few issues like this on the edgware road, some in acton. do you think diverse our greatest diverse city is our greatest strength? i think diversity diverse city is our greatest stre|of.h? i think diversity diverse city is our greatest stre|of the think diversity diverse city is our greatest stre|of the thingsdiversity diverse city is our greatest stre|of the things dive know. one of the things we know. >> look at the stuff >> or if you look at the stuff i do on the committee, you look at how business is organised. any organisations run if you have diversity a society and diversity in a society and in and the management of things, and in the management of things, you basically voices the you basically voices at the table things about table don't do things about people whether people without them, whether that's women, whether that's men, women, whether whatever are whatever background people are from, that can really bring a richness challenge to to and richness and challenge to to and the status quo and making sure that actually future that we're actually future proofing decisions for the future. but i'm not sure quite where question is going where your question is going because of immigration because in terms of immigration more generally, one of the things with the things we've seen here with the government is there's nasty anti—immigrant and anti—immigrant rhetoric. and actually a minister once actually i was a minister once responsible people responsible for bringing people over un camps to this over from un camps to this country, welcomed by communities over from un camps to this co britainielcomed by communities over from un camps to this co britain because by communities over from un camps to this co britain because ity communities over from un camps to this co britain because it was nmunities in britain because it was planned and because was planned and because there was support for health care, there was support for schooling and housing. danger is if housing. and the danger is if you a lot people over you bring a lot of people over 175,000 seekers with in 175,000 asylum seekers with in the not processed the system not processed after over year , that can put real
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over a year, that can put real pressure on systems. >> let's be honest, in about >> so let's be honest, in about a year's time, this might be your so what you your problem. so what are you going do about it? right. going to do about it? right. >> one is that you need to >> well, one is that you need to look radically what's look radically at what's happening home office. happening in the home office. and minister in the home and i was a minister in the home office, so know of what i office, so i know of what i speak. so actually having a system in place rather than this, let's throw a few more lots at problem lots more people at a problem and away from other and then take away from other people. so i've got on people. so i've got people on work visas that are struggling to because the to other visas because of the push asylum claims. and we push on asylum claims. and we need out asylum claims, need to sort out asylum claims, but not at expense of other but not at the expense of other people coming through the system. a system system. we have to have a system that's for everyone, so that's working for everyone, so you need efficiency. you just need basic efficiency. sounds boring. not going be sounds boring. not going to be a headune sounds boring. not going to be a headline write headline for chris to write about, or to parade, but about, know or to parade, but that really, really that is really, really important. also need to important. and you also need to be globally. the be looking at this globally. the refugee and asylum crisis is not something just to something that's just down to britain. it's something where every the world every country around the world needs we've got needs to work. it's we've got famine, change, war. famine, climate change, war. this know, i appreciate this is you know, i appreciate suella braverman, who should probably name probably whisper that name around here, but, i mean, she did. did go to the un and say,
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>> she did go to the un and say, do you want to change the definition refugee is? definition of what refugee is? and said no. and then and the un said no. and then that means, well, we that kind of means, well, we might be lumbered with it, but come on, do you worry though that heard anyway that keir that we heard anyway that keir starmer reverse the rwanda plan? >> it's the supreme >> it's in the supreme court this on his this week. not working on his own hasn't started yet. own terms, hasn't started yet. no. why he shut no. i mean, i wonder why he shut his face to that even before it starts. well, because look, i mean, come on, chris. >> a realist. you look at >> you're a realist. you look at it its own terms. my it on its own terms. and my committee has looked at this. it doesn't there's no proper doesn't work. there's no proper costings. we don't well costings. we don't know. well it's anybody. it's not deterring anybody. the idea was was supposed be idea was it was supposed to be a deterrence, if somebody who's deterrence, as if somebody who's being smuggled by a smuggler. >> i. >> all right, look, i. i appreciate you. you haven't you haven't happen yet. don't haven't let it happen yet. don't say it hasn't worked. it's not starting but was starting well, but it was supposed stopping. starting well, but it was supbutzd stopping. starting well, but it was supbutzd you stopping. starting well, but it was supbutzd you think)ing. starting well, but it was supbutzd you think that my >> but do you think that my point was before you interrupted me that if somebody coming me was that if somebody coming over trafficked by somebody across the channel waiting for their moment in the sun is shining and the channels are clear, not going to be clear, they're not going to be wondering under wondering whether they're under policy that's being discussed is active going active or not. they're not going to that place. but look on
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to be in that place. but look on its government to be in that place. but look on itsgetting government to be in that place. but look on itsgetting nothing|ent to be in that place. but look on itsgetting nothing att is getting for money nothing at the moment. that's taxpayers money have the moment. that's taxpayers mone nothing have the moment. that's taxpayers mone nothing for have the moment. that's taxpayers mone nothing for it. have the moment. that's taxpayers mone nothing for it. and have done nothing for it. and actually, it just goes actually, it just it goes against the international against all of the international claims. but is why we've claims. but this is why we've got with it got to deal with it internationally, because one of the this movement of the reasons for this movement of people war, famine, people is we've got war, famine, climate which driving climate change, which is driving people climate change, which is driving peoplto tackle that as well as need to tackle that as well as united across united nations. but across europe and other other partners united nations. but across euiwell. |nd other other partners as well. >> okay. now, the other >> okay. now, one of the other big for a of big concerns about for a lot of people labour is, is the people about labour is, is the kind societal change that may kind of societal change that may happen. so things like gender, ideology, do ideology, for example, and do you a is? yeah, you know what a woman is? yeah, well, i'm no, i say i'm well, i mean, i'm no, i say i'm not sure i'm to on not sure i'm allowed to say on air and it's usually a girl air or and it's usually a girl growing an adult woman like growing into an adult woman like me people transition me and some people transition later in life and that's a small number of people they number of people and they deserve support . okay. all deserve our support. okay. all right, you. thank right, look. thank you. thank you very much. a wide ranging interview. appreciate you interview. i do appreciate you coming thank you coming on seriously. thank you very good luck. right. very much. and good luck. right. so i believe we so i am just before i believe we go to a kosher restaurant in golders green that has, of course, been vandalised following the attack. police have stepped up patrols in north
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london after reports of groups celebrating the hamas attack on israel. i think we are able to hear from the foreign secretary, james cleverly. we are has just given an update on the government's actions regarding the conflict in israel, so we can have a listen to that interview. now, first of all, foreign secretary, can you tell us the outcome of the cobra meeting afternoon? meeting this afternoon? >> afternoon, the >> well, this afternoon, the prime minister chaired a cobra meeting where we assessed the situation on the ground and we reaffirmed our support to israel in its self—defence against this terrorist attack perpetrated by hamas against unarmed civilians . in many instances , i've been . in many instances, i've been speaking with foreign ministers from around the region and beyond. the prime minister has engaged with the israeli prime minister and will be engaging with our allies. this is an ongoing situation and of course we will be reviewing our support
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to israel. and of course , to israel. and of course, british nationals in israel as the situation progresses . the situation progresses. >> what's the best information you have as to the number of british nationals who have been caught up in this, who are feared killed or missing, and the british number, the number of british dual nationals of british or dual nationals overall and the overall, all in israel and the occupied territories as well, because of israel's , i think, because of israel's, i think, unique status there are a large number of british, israeli dual nationals . nationals. >> of course, many of those people will regard israel as their permanent home. many of them will be members of the israeli defence force and many of them, of course, will be planning to stay in israel. we have made consular numbers available for any british nationals who are seeking to leave. flights are still available, so there are opportunities to leave israel . opportunities to leave israel. if people want to do that and of course as the situation develops, we will remain in
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very, very close contact with the israeli government to make sure that we are providing the support that they need to defend themselves against this terrorist attack . terrorist attack. >> so can you tell us anything about who've been caught about those who've been caught up well, this is fast moving >> well, this is a fast moving situation , and therefore, i'm situation, and therefore, i'm uncomfortable double speculating about the nature or the numbers of people involved. >> but this is unprecedented . we >> but this is unprecedented. we recognise this as an incredibly difficult time for the people of israel. our thoughts are with them and we will continue to work with the government of israel to bring about peace and security to that country and their people, their people can still get out of israel. >> but what are those people like? for example, the family of the first minister of scotland who are in gaza? is there who are stuck in gaza? is there anything you can do for those people? well i'll i have spoken with the egyptian foreign minister and of course , there is minister and of course, there is a land border with egypt and a crossing point into egypt, the management of which , of course, management of which, of course, is the responsibility of the
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egyptian government. >> but we remain in close contact with them. of course, we speak to the governments of all the countries in the region to try and ensure that we bring peace to the people of israel and to the state of israel as quickly as possible. >> in terms of the israeli response, do you think it is proportionate for israel to cut off water, electricity , dodi, off water, electricity, dodi, food, fuel, all of those things to the people of gaza ? to the people of gaza? >> israel has a right to defend itself against attack. the uk complete fully supports israel's right to defend itself proportionately . the truth of proportionately. the truth of the matter is that this was a terrorist attack perpetrated by hamas who are embedded in gaza shielding themselves amongst the palestinian people in gaza . and palestinian people in gaza. and we will continue to support israel as it seeks to defend itself against these brutal terrorist attack initiated by
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hamas . hamas. >> yes. are you concerned that this could spread , that other this could spread, that other actors, for example, hezbollah , actors, for example, hezbollah, could become involved? >> we should recognise that hamas are a terrorist organisation , ian. they are not organisation, ian. they are not acting on behalf of the entirety of the palestinian people or indeed the other countries in the region . israel has told us the region. israel has told us they are very focussed on deaung they are very focussed on dealing with this specific terrorist threat from hamas. i have spoken with representatives of governments around the region and we are all agreed that nobody wants this to spill out into other parts of the region. israel are very focussed on deaung israel are very focussed on dealing with the specific terrorist threat from hamas emanating from gaza . that emanating from gaza. that remains their focus. and we continue to support them in that work. thank you. foreign okay, so that's james cleverly there. >> of course, the foreign secretary issuing a statement on the latest goings on when it comes to israel and palestine. he spoke in very strong terms
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and he said that he absolutely condemns the terrorist attack by hamas. he said that israel absolutely has the right to defend itself and they are keeping abreast of the situation. i think we can show you some live images actually, of the gaza skyline , even as of the gaza skyline, even as israel continues its retaliatory strikes against hamas targets on the gaza strip . so dusk is kind the gaza strip. so dusk is kind of settling, although to be fair, the sun is being blocked out by all the plumes of smoke. when i last brought those images to you, we just another to you, we just seen another massive explosion that by my watch anyway, is about three in the last 20 minutes or so. so one would imagine that's going to continue. so we will keep you up to date. 1300 is the death toll at the moment. that number, of course, going to rise and it is anticipated anyway , at least is anticipated anyway, at least rumoured that israel may well launch a ground offensive . so, launch a ground offensive. so, of course, if that does happen, we will take that to you as soon as it does. look, meanwhile, a scottish man killed in israel on
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saturday has been named, sadly, as bernard cowan from glasgow . as bernard cowan from glasgow. his family confirmed his death in a statement saying his death was a huge loss to our family, both at home and in israel and to the jewish community in glasgow, where he will be sorely missed . okay, stay with me, missed. okay, stay with me, patrick christys here on gb news.
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>> welcome to liverpool where we are at the labour party conference. but explosions are continuing in gaza as israel retaliates to attacks by terror group hamas. we are currently showing live pictures of the gaza skyline as israel continues its retaliatory strikes. well there you go. i mean, explosions taking place right now. i mean, in fact, quite a large barrage there. i think at least five explosions have taken place right this minute. let's just stay on these pictures, i think for the moment, because the death toll as it currently stands, according to our official estimates here, is 1300. that number, of course, unfortunately , would appear to unfortunately, would appear to be rising by the minute as we see these live footage, footage of explosions taking place in gaza right, right now, that is an incredibly large explosion . an incredibly large explosion. now, i suppose more of these to come. let's just stay on these images because israel is now bombarding in gaza, isn't it? we
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are aware that is believed that hamas has several high profile , hamas has several high profile, all high value hostages in terms of members of the israeli army and figures such as that. so they are, as well as civilians, by the way. so they are currently held hostage in gaza. as we understand, israel , of as we understand, israel, of course, is deciding to bombard a variety of different locations there in gaza . we are bringing there in gaza. we are bringing you live footage now as explosions are just ripping through that particular area. so, look, more on this as indeed we get it. but here in the uk, the met police say that they are not treating an incident involving a kosher restaurant in golders green as a hate crime . i golders green as a hate crime. i don't know about you, but twitter was awash in the immediate aftermath of hamas's invasion of israel with a lot of people posting videos and pictures coming out in favour of hamas. whether that's over in
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this country, whether that was people on the edgware road in london, whether that's people in acton, in london, whether or not that was people in the netherlands, we've seen it in berlin, we've seen it in a variety of different areas. we also crucially as well, saw it in a refugee holding centre in greece, which did make me wonder whether or not anybody who is celebrating a invasion and the persecution of innocent civilians in israel should be allowed asylum in europe. but as those decisions are made by somebody much more important than i am. but shadow home secretary yvette cooper says that she supports the police in tackling barbaric incidents tackling the barbaric incidents that are taking place. i believe that are taking place. i believe that we can go now to golders green to speak to theo chikomba , who is on national reporter, who's got the latest for so, who's got the latest for us. so, theo, police are not theo, the police are not treating as a hate crime , treating this as a hate crime, is that right ? is that right? >> yes, that's right. but this afternoon we do know now that the british transport police have launched an investigation
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to the graffiti that's above the bndge to the graffiti that's above the bridge where we are at the moment . and it's what's been moment. and it's what's been written on there is free palestine on both sides. just a few moments ago, though, some of the locals here who we've been seeing throughout the day got a ladder and are attempting to go up there to spray on the bridge that you can no longer see what's written on up there. but in terms of the restaurant, just over my right shoulder , a pitre over my right shoulder, a pitre restaurant, in the last few moments , we've just seen someone moments, we've just seen someone arriving with a wooden platform, which they're going to put where the door is , which was broken the door is, which was broken into this morning . but the into this morning. but the police at 6:10 am. this morning were called to a report of burglary at and of damage caused. they are saying this is not a hate crime, but investigations are continuing into what's happened. and they say a cash register was stolen . say a cash register was stolen. according to some of those calls which they received . in terms of which they received. in terms of
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what else has been said today, the mayor of london has condemned what's happened in israel. and he said there is no place for tolerance hate in our city. and he said, i remain in close contact with the met police. whoever did this will feel the full face of force according to the law. and he says, i stand with jewish londoners today and always many members of the community who hadn't had the opportunity to come to this area have now started coming in the last half an hour or so to see what's been happening. but many of them are saying this is tragic for our community and they're keeping a close eye with what's happening in israel with some of their family members as well . family members as well. >> theo, thank you very, very much. as theo chikomba there, who is our national reporter who's on the scene golders who's on the scene in golders green. once order whether or green. i once order whether or not quite a few people are wondering cannot be wondering how that cannot be considered hate but, considered a hate crime. but, you there we go . there's you know, there we go. there's lots still come between lots more still to come between now chancellor now and 5:00. shadow chancellor
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rachel reeves reiterated labour's intention to abolish the tax status. now this the non—dom tax status. now this is much more interesting than it sounds for okay a variety of different reasons. firstly how much money is it going to raise us? secondly actually, is it workable? and what specifically do labour want to pay for it with? but do the british public actually know what a non—dom means? possibly not. you won't want to miss it. but first, it's your latest headlines a little bit later than planned with polly . patrick. polly. patrick. >> thank you. the top stories this hour, rocket sirens have been heard in jerusalem amid the ongoing fighting between hamas and the israeli army . israel has and the israeli army. israel has declared war on the terrorist group launching airstrikes after a surprise attack by hamas on saturday. the countries ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip , cutting off food supplies strip, cutting off food supplies , fuel and electricity . more
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, fuel and electricity. more than 800 people are thought to have died in israel and 500 in gaza. here the shadow chancellor says her party is ready to rebuild britain . speaking at the rebuild britain. speaking at the labour party conference in liverpool, rachel reeves spoke of restoring economic security after what she calls the chaos of the tory years. she also said labour planned to revamp the uk's local planning departments to boost the economy and the government's defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda. in the supreme court today . in fact, over the next today. in fact, over the next three days, several cases collectively known as the rwanda appeals, will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling migrants. those are the top stories. more on all of them by heading to our website, gbnews.com .
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website, gb news.com. >> welcome website, gbnews.com. >> welcome back to liverpool where we are of course, at the labour party conference. a bit of a buzz going around here, speaking at this labour party conference earlier, shadow chancellor rachel reeves reiterate intention reiterate labour's intention to aboush reiterate labour's intention to abolish the non—domiciled tax status . this this is, i'll say status. this this is, i'll say it again , more interesting than it again, more interesting than it again, more interesting than it sounds for a variety of different reasons, she said. if you make your home in britain, you make your home in britain, you should pay your taxes here too. with labour you will too. and with labour you will okayit too. and with labour you will okay it all sounds very straightfonnard, but it isn't. earlier on gb news spoke to the people a labour party conference is asking if they even know what a non—dom means. take it away . a non—dom means. take it away. >> this isn't it. that means you're exempt based on, isn't it? when you're technically operate somewhere. >> but you here. that >> but you live here. is that right ? right? >> do you know what a non—dom is ? >>i ? >> i think it's to do with the illegal immigration is what that is what it brings to mind. >> so basically , people who live >> so basically, people who live in the uk, but then they pay their tax overseas non—domiciled tax resident it's presumably
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related to tax, right? >> it's a non—domiciled person who is has tax status within the uk, but sort of not within the uk. >> well, i tell you what, everybody who doesn't know what a non—dom is, but get to know what a non—dom is because they're going to be paying for a heck of a lot. apparently, if you the labour party. you believe the labour party. liam with now, liam halligan here with me now, our economics and business editor. what editor. right. so what difference is it going make editor. right. so what diweence is it going make editor. right. so what diwe doe is it going make editor. right. so what diwe do what: going make editor. right. so what diwe do what labour make editor. right. so what diwe do what labour wants {e do if we do what labour wants to do with understanding with non—doms? my understanding and wrong, is with non—doms? my understanding and the wrong, is with non—doms? my understanding and the labour wrong, is with non—doms? my understanding and the labour party wrong, is with non—doms? my understanding and the labour party have], is that the labour party have looked a study the looked at a study by the university of wannick which says that might be that £3.5 billion might be raised you make non—doms pay. raised if you make non—doms pay. their is that true? is it their tax is that true? is it going to happen? so no, non—dom stands for non—domiciled. >> these are very wealthy people who are of other national parties who live in the uk , but parties who live in the uk, but they're domiciled . it's their they're domiciled. it's their sense of where they come from . sense of where they come from. um is another country . and for um is another country. and for some metaphysical reason lost in the midst of time. that means they pay a lot less tax than
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everyone else. now that university of wannick studies , university of wannick studies, you said, does say that labour could raise . £3.5 billion you said, does say that labour could raise. £3.5 billion a yeah could raise. £3.5 billion a year. that's £3,500 million a yeah year. that's £3,500 million a year. if these very wealthy mobile individuals stayed in the uk and paid income tax the way you, me and most other gb news viewers and listeners pay a massive if isn't it, that's a massive if isn't it, that's a massive if isn't it, that's a massive if because not just a few months ago there was a treasury study that came out that said actually because all these people are really mobile, they moved to monaco or wherever, probably already based somewhere else. they won't just sit there and be hit by the taxman. they'll arrange their affairs so they're not hit by the taxman . and if enough of the taxman. and if enough of them move out of the uk, according to the treasury study, it wouldn't raise £3.5 billion. it would actually cost it 350 million. now, this sounds really inane. why is this bloke on gb news going on about this stuff? the reason is patrick, because as you hinted in the opening,
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this 303 £35 billion that labour claim they can get off the non—dom as they've the tories would say they've accounted for it many times they've going to spend it here, they're going to spend it there, they're going to spend it there, they're going to spend it there, they're going to spend it everywhere. why don't raise laboun everywhere. why don't raise labour, just raise income tax. why? because trying why? because labour are trying to tax. to outflank the tories on tax. taxation is a 70 year high. taxation is a is a 70 year high. >> it's a one off. if they do it, obviously it's a one off lump sum, isn't it? and what they've earmarked it for this time is over. time for, for doctors, right? so they're to going fix the nhs by taxing non—doms again , it might seem by non—doms again, it might seem by some as as a one hit wonder because okay, let's say you do that once, then like you said. i mean, and also as well, i was having a look at the numbers as to the amount of non—doms that actually are. there is actually actually are. there is actually a core of about 500 hyper wealthy non—domiciled individuals. there's 500 people who are going to clobbered. who are going to get clobbered. >> a massive as if >> it's not a massive as if they're to going sit and
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they're to going sit there and just they're lobbied. just yeah, they're not lobbied. they're houses they're not they've got houses all world. they're not all over the world. they're not going to pay for labour's spending plans. it's a preposterous to think that they would. has brought study credit, has brought out a study actually labour's actually contradicting labour's numbers. look, no , no tax is numbers. look, no, no tax is popular at the moment. taxation is already at a 70 year high. as i said, and labour is accusing the tories of taxing ordinary people, even the lib dems have abandoned their penny on income tax pay for public services. tax to pay for public services. that's sort of feeling in that's the sort of feeling in the country. don't tax any the country. don't tax us any more. cost of living more. there's a cost of living crisis. labour have put crisis. so labour have put fonnard that they're fonnard a tax that they're hoping will be popular. you know , super rich a lot , a , tax the super rich a lot, a higher windfall tax on oil and gas companies which are already at 75. >> are they indeed. >> are they indeed. >> you tax the hyper rich >> if you tax the hyper rich a lot, they're not going to stick around. it could you money around. it could cost you money because won't their because they won't spend their money. uk because they'll money. in the uk because they'll live and say, live elsewhere. and as you say, the tax oil and gas the windfall tax on oil and gas companies operating in north companies operating in the north sea, it's already gone up from 30% profits to of 30% of their profits to 75% of their profits. and that is cutting investment in the north sea. so if you it up further
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sea. so if you put it up further north, sea oil and gas industry will close down. >> course. so to >> yeah, of course. so to summarise if we can really, as we understand it at moment, we understand it at the moment, labour's main ways of generating money is non—doms and windfall tax. is that right? >> anything else? the main ones, they're the two main ones that they're the two main ones that they talk about a lot because it's a, it's sort of their class war issues aren't they. yeah. let's and gas let's hit the oil and gas companies and the green lobby likes yeah hit likes that and yeah let's hit the fich likes that and yeah let's hit the rich and i mean got an the super rich and i mean got an absolutely huge safe bet isn't it. >> yeah exactly yeah i would say as an economist and you know, i might be wrong, but there's a lot of evidence to show that if you taxation on oil and you increase taxation on oil and gas profits in the north sea from 30 to 75, already we've seen basically an investment strike by those companies . strike by those companies. >> and there's a lot of evidence to from the to show, not least from the treasury itself, in internal research that was leaked the research that was leaked to the telegraph tax telegraph that this non—dom tax rather than raising 3.5 billion, will cost 350 million. >> and i understand, though, that. so despite all of this,
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and it is important to know that there are they're not wishy washy with the numbers, but i mean , there's a lot of ifs here. mean, there's a lot of ifs here. like, you know, this would have to remain the same for a period like, you know, this would have to years] the same for a period like, you know, this would have to years. it'sz same for a period like, you know, this would have to years. it's veryle for a period like, you know, this would have to years. it's very unlikelyyeriod like, you know, this would have to years. it's very unlikely toiod of years. it's very unlikely to do etcetera. so if this is do that, etcetera. so if this is where funding where their main funding is coming then think coming from, then i think that is however, is important to note. however, the governor of the bank the former governor of the bank of england backed labour, of england has backed labour, hasn't he? >> well, he seems to have done. i making a of i mean, it's making a lot of people angry. governor people very angry. the governor of of england, the of the bank of england, the former bank former governor of the bank of england, should be unscrupulously politically neutral mark carney neutral. and yet mark carney appeared in a sort of ritzy video which followed rachel reeves saying that she's reeves speech saying that she's a serious economist and he backs her plans for the british economy. yeah, this is a guy who was appointed by a conservative, george osborne was bank of england governor for 7 or 8 years. not always particularly popular. it must be said, but it's not the job of the bank of england. governor to popular. england. governor to be popular. but on the hand, there but on the other hand, there will lot raised eyebrows will be a lot of raised eyebrows that somebody who was paid hundreds of thousands pounds hundreds of thousands of pounds a taxpayer
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a year by the british taxpayer to be a very high ranking civil servant uses this moment of sort of maximum political sensitivity obe to endorse the shadow chancellor. it will be seen at the very least as a as what we'd say where i grew up. patrick, a bit wide and very widely. >> thank you very much. as liam halligan there. our economics and business editor. right. okay. so what can labour do to prevent another council like birmingham from going bust? we've got slough on the rocks croydon's on the rocks as well. quite a few of them aren't we joined by the mayor of oldham to get his views? patrick christys gb news,
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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. welcome back to liverpool, where we are at the labour party conference. >> now. earlier on we heard from the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves , as she outlined her reeves, as she outlined her proposals should labour win the next . reeves hammered next election. reeves hammered home slogan to rebuild home her slogan to rebuild britain , which is interesting britain, which is interesting because there was nothing she's not actually talking about home ownership, i suppose, but there was nothing about housebuilding in rishi sunaks statements that the tory party conference last week. so there we go. but she is promising to focus on economic stability and encourage investment . joining me now is investment. joining me now is councillor dr. zahid chauhan , councillor dr. zahid chauhan, who is the labour mayor of oldham and a labour councillor as well. thank you very much for joining to have you on joining me. great to have you on the show. look, one of the things are concerned
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things that people are concerned about when it comes labour about when it comes to labour is the state of local councils overspending we've overspending, etcetera. we've seen in seen what's happened in birmingham. what's birmingham. we're seeing what's happening and things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that|g and things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that. and things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that . can and things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that . can labourand things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that . can labour be things birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|that . can labour be trusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*the . can labour be trusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*the money? bour be trusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*ticourse.>y? bour be trusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*ticourse. and jur be trusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*ticourse. and rachel:rusted birmingham. we're seeing what's hap|�*ticourse. and rachel reeves >> of course. and rachel reeves has outlined plans very has outlined the plans very clearly that labour can be trusted. but i the real trusted. but i think the real question, patrick, is why we are in this state. when you have ten years you years of austerity, when you keep , keep chopping, keep cutting, keep chopping, keep cutting, keep chopping, keep away, it will have keep chopping away, it will have impact. will impact. councils will go bankrupt . you have remember bankrupt. you have to remember what do . we think what councils do. we think councils just collect pain, but councils just collect pain, but councils provide the social services. what is the social care and social services looking after vulnerable in care and social services looking aftecommunitiesrable in care and social services looking aftecommunities . ble in care and social services looking aftecommunities . so in care and social services looking aftecommunities . so if in care and social services looking aftecommunities . so if you in care and social services looking aftecommunities . so if you have our communities. so if you have to ask the question , would you to ask the question, would you go on looking after an go overspend on looking after an elderly lady? >> to be fair, there does have to be a huge amount of personal responsibility, though. i mean, they've some they've invested in some catastrophic investments. i mean, slough , for example, mean, in slough, for example, there's huge property investments ridiculous. investments that are ridiculous. birmingham a massive overspend when it comes to computer programming, etcetera. so i do take point. councils have take your point. councils have had to tighten their bootstraps, but mean, they do have to take
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but i mean, they do have to take some responsibility. >> us have, >> absolutely. all of us have, and including the government, have take the responsibility have to take the responsibility for, example, how much money for, for example, how much money we before we we spent on hs2 before we changing our plans. are we going to really look into that billions being spent to say we're to going get up to manchester? but that money is gone as well. >> suppose we all need to >> so i suppose we all need to be accountable for personal actions and our co—operative actions as well. >> there's about it. >> there's no doubt about it. >> there's no doubt about it. >> so you are a doctor, >> okay, so you are a doctor, you're gp and it's one of you're a gp and it's one of labour's big pledges to try to fix the nhs. do you know how they're going to do it? >> i'm really pleased and i labour a very plan labour a very clear plan and i think what you yes today think what you heard. yes today and labour is promising is and what labour is promising is trying invest some extra trying to invest some extra money to cut down the waiting list. this is just start of list. this is just the start of a need to take the action a so we need to take the action now and here and it makes absolute sense because when you're to going sort you're to going invest in sort of down the of like trying to cut down the waiting having staff waiting list by having the staff working evenings because working in the evenings because you buildings, you you do have a buildings, you have are willing to have staff who are willing to work, the staff who are willing to mile and to go extra mile and also remember a lot staff
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remember quite a lot of staff are struggling are actually struggling financially. heard the story. financially. we heard the story. >> will you give nurses a pay rise that they want? >> it needs to be a >> well, it needs to be a sensible conversation and we need the overall need to look at the overall picture rise is only picture of a pay rise is only let's have a pay rise is only one you can't look into one issue. you can't look into the isolation. what staff the isolation. what the staff are we cannot look after are saying, we cannot look after the look the patients. we promise to look after because the after the patients because the environment we cannot. >> are also after of money. >> yeah. would you give that? and everyone needs the money to live and what and everyone needs the money to live it and what and everyone needs the money to live it happened. and what and everyone needs the money to live it happened. that what and everyone needs the money to live it happened. that happened scale it happened. that happened because i think this is again you issue may be a you know, an issue may be a concern for some people about the of a labour the possibility of a labour government happens government is well, what happens with with unions? >> so so sounds unions? >>so so sounds melike >> so, so it sounds to me like you would be broadly in favour of just giving them the pay offer want. offer that they want. >> it's not about just pay >> it's not about just the pay offer and obviously i'm not at that, sort of like stage to that, that sort of like stage to make that decision and you need to overall picture. make that decision and you need to need overall picture. make that decision and you need to need to overall picture. make that decision and you need to need to sitnverall picture. make that decision and you need to need to sit on�*all picture. make that decision and you need to need to sit on the)icture. make that decision and you need to need to sit on the table.. make that decision and you need to keyd to sit on the table.. make that decision and you need to keyd to sit ccan|e table.. make that decision and you need to keyd to sit (can we able.. make that decision and you need to keyd to sit (can we sit5.. make that decision and you need to keyd to sit (can we sit down the key thing is can we sit down and have grown up sensible , and have grown up sensible, serious avoid serious conversation to avoid the strikes? >> now one last question. the strikes? >> are now one last question. the strikes? >> are going/ one last question. the strikes? >> are going tone last question. the strikes? >> are going to bringt question. the strikes? >> are going to bring livezstion. the strikes? >> are going to bring live shots the strikes? >> eshortlyg to bring live shots the strikes? >> eshortly anyway,g live shots
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the strikes? >> eshortly anyway,g lwhat'sts very shortly anyway, of what's been going on in gaza in, of course, response to the hamas course, in response to the hamas terrorist attack in israel . do terrorist attack in israel. do you stand with israel? i stand against the violence and condemn the violence from everywhere. >> so of course, i will stand with israel. i will stand against all the people who've been oppressed. >> have a problem with >> do we have a problem with people country people in this country who support do we have problem? >> you'll have to ask those people who do. but i strongly believe discourage anyone believe and discourage anyone supporting any sort of violence and condemn strongly. >> thank you very much. great to have you on the show. much appreciated. >> let me just take one away. >> let me just take one away. >> you for now. >> stay where you are for now. all okay. right. yes, all right. okay. so right. yes, we are just going to you we are just going to show you some pictures of airstrikes some live pictures of airstrikes that landed on gaza with particular as be seen particular force, as can be seen here, i believe explosions are continuing in gaza. okay. so these are shots from earlier on. we brought this to you live as it actually happened. so those were some explosions as. yeah, shock place in shock attacks that took place in israel . we currently showing israel. we are currently showing you pictures now of the gaza
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skyline as israel continues its retaliatory attacks. there we go. well chancellor jeremy hunt has oh, in fact, these are sorry, those are live shots. yes. there we go. right okay. so these are live shots from gaza. as you can see, it's night—time now. so it's quite difficult to make going make out exactly what's going on. but about 20 minutes ago, whilst looking these whilst we were looking at these shots, after shots, it was explosion after explosion explosion and explosion after explosion. and it's difficult to see what's going on there at the moment. we'll bring you any updates as and we get it. of course, and when we get it. of course, thatis and when we get it. of course, that is gaza as we see right that is gaza as we see it right now. so chancellor jeremy now. right. so chancellorjeremy hunt at shadow hunt has hit out at shadow chancellor hunt has hit out at shadow chancel saying is an speech, saying that it is an extraordinary inflation extraordinary that inflation wasn't mentioned when it is the biggest challenge facing the british economy and of course, stubbornly high inflation is still taking its toll and struggling families right across the uk. we're a bit pressed for time, so we'll rattle through it. joining me now is andy cook. thank much. great to thank you very much. great to have as the have you on the show. as the chief executive for the centre have you on the show. as the chinsocial utive for the centre have you on the show. as the chinsocial justice,�* the centre have you on the show. as the chinsocial justice, thinkientre have you on the show. as the chinsocial justice, think tank, for social justice, think tank, which co—founded by which is co—founded by conservative iain
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conservative mp iain duncan—smith. great stuff, conservative mp iain dunca it's mith. great stuff, conservative mp iain dunca it's jeremy reat stuff, conservative mp iain dunca it's jeremy reat st right? right? it's jeremy hunt, right? literally they should have >> well, they should have mentioned far more than inflation, frankly, they should be the biggest inflation, frankly, they should be time the biggest inflation, frankly, they should be time the goingst right ticking time bomb going on right now. work the now. and that's work and the amount people are out of amount of people that are out of work 3.8 million people are out of benefits, 700,000 of of work benefits, 700,000 of which want to work. and all of this is important towards inflation because you have more people work system. people in the work system. you've paying you've got more people paying taxes, and it's better for people's health. their aspiration , all of that, and no aspiration, all of that, and no one's mentioning like one's mentioning it. it's like madness. we're in liverpool madness. even we're in liverpool right now. yeah. and there is 9000 jobs available out there. average salary at £34,000. and yet there's 18% out of work in the adult population. i mean, this is the thing that they should be talking about. and that's for now, not long term. >> that's for now. >> that's for now. >> fair to say you're >> so it's fair to say you're not impressed rachel reeves. not impressed by rachel reeves. >> that's like >> no, i think that's i'm i like the fact that starting to the fact that we're starting to talk social justice talk about key social justice issues work, like the issues like work, like the economy. bit of economy. and there's a bit of a battle for ideas going on, but it's only the start things. it's only the start of things. and no one really knows what the deeper policies and no one really knows what the dee behind. policies are behind. >> it's a shame
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>> so yeah, it's a shame that really, isn't because it'd really, isn't it? because it'd be to know, wouldn't it? it be nice to know, wouldn't it? it would nice. would be nice. >> and you walk around the conference everyone's conference and everyone's saying, good conference and everyone's saying music. good conference and everyone's sayingmusic. we good conference and everyone's sayingmusic. we want good conference and everyone's sayingmusic. we want to good conference and everyone's sayingmusic. we want to haveyd mood music. we want to have more and get that battle and and let's get that battle and those going those those arguments going because ideas those those arguments going beceenergy ideas those those arguments going beceenergy out ideas those those arguments going beceenergy out there ideas those those arguments going beceenergy out there thatieas and energy out there that they could harness. and energy out there that they could harlook , thank you. >> yeah, look, thank you. i'm sorry. so and i'm sorry. so short and sweet, i'm afraid. but obviously we're kind of overtaken by events gaza, of overtaken by events in gaza, which sure can which i'm sure you can understand. so is andy understand. so that is andy cook, chief executive understand. so that is andy co the chief executive understand. so that is andy co the forchief executive understand. so that is andy co the for social (ecutive understand. so that is andy co the for social justices at the centre for social justice think co—founded by think tank co—founded by conservative iain duncan. think tank co—founded by conserright. iain duncan. think tank co—founded by conserright. look, iain duncan. think tank co—founded by conserright. look, coming jncan. think tank co—founded by conserright. look, coming upan. smith right. look, coming up in just updates from just a moment, more updates from gaza. continuing just a moment, more updates from gbuildings continuing just a moment, more updates from gbuildings toppling|tinuing just a moment, more updates from gbuildings toppling amid|g . buildings are toppling amid the of the israel—hamas the carnage of the israel—hamas war. get your views coming in as well. gb views at gbnews.com. what we are looking at there is live from gaza . israel live footage from gaza. israel has been bombarding that particular strip there. of course, is now night time. so course, it is now night time. so very difficult see if there very difficult to see if there are any plumes of smoke, etcetera. as soon as get etcetera. but as soon as we get wind of more explosions or wind of any more explosions or indeed the potential, by the way, land invasion way, for an actual land invasion by israel into gaza, we will, of course, bring that to you as soon as we get it. so stay
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tuned. i've got a rip roaring final hour coming your way, stuck for the labour mp. start for the top gas. make sure that you stay tuned. patrick christys right here on gb news. we are britain's news channel and we are the labour party are live at the labour party conference don't conference in liverpool. don't move. >> hello there and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. we'll see some patchy low cloud and fog developing, across developing, particularly across southern parts england and southern parts of england and wales, the heavy wales, but further the heavy rain pushing into scotland. that's courtesy of weather fronts pushing through over the next few days. this weather front are dividing line between warm air to the south colder warm air to the south and colder air the air trying to come into the north middle of the week. north by the middle of the week. we've already got that cloud and rain spilling into parts of northern into northern ireland, pushing into western move northern ireland, pushing into western this move northern ireland, pushing into western this evening move northern ireland, pushing into western this evening intowve northern ireland, pushing into western this evening into the through this evening into the early , elsewhere turning early hours, elsewhere turning quite be some quite grey, there'll be some mist and low cloud developing by the end of the night, particularly across south western and western parts of the uk and fairly for all fairly mild temperatures for all staying up in double figures. so it's a wet start across scotland to start tuesday morning. outbreaks of heavy rain , which
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outbreaks of heavy rain, which will continue to push slowly south eastwards through the day here. so we could see some further flooding issues brightening up across parts of england wales . some low england and wales. some low cloud, lingering across cloud, though, lingering across southern counties. plenty of hazy here, lifting hazy sunshine here, lifting temperatures to around 23 or 24, turning increasingly windy across the northern half of the uk as weather fronts push in those weather fronts slowly push their southwards into their way southwards into wednesday, turning heavy at times, particularly across parts of wales. further north, brighter , sunny spells and brighter, sunny spells and scattered showers, particularly across northwest scotland. some of heavy at quite of these heavy at times quite muqqy of these heavy at times quite muggy across southern parts of the uk under that cloud and rain a bit fresher further north and turning cooler as we head towards the
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people in britain, they love free speech, but they also love fair play. >> i don't care if i'm speaking somebody from a trade union, from the labour party, somebody from the labour party, somebody from the labour party, somebody from the snp, and i think the viewers like to see that. actually we can challenge one another. but in a positive way. >> we think we the questions >> we think we ask the questions that want to ask, and that people want to ask, and often we ask the questions that we ask in parliament we wanted to ask in parliament but never got the chance to ask. >> so join us every saturday, 10 am. till noon on gb news, a.m. till noon on gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> hello, we are in liverpool for the labour party conference. now this hour i've got labour frontbencher peter kyle . i've frontbencher peter kyle. i've got labour mp george howarth .
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got labour mp george howarth. christopher hope joins me as well. of course our political editor. and we're going to rip through this day at conference lots announcements it lots of announcements when it comes to the economy. bitcoin hear about how they're going to fix immigration, both legal and illegal, and where does the labour party stand on israel? all of that to come and much, much more with me. patrick christys right here on . gb news christys right here on. gb news gb views on gb news.com is that email address? get your emails coming in. hopefully i'll get some this hour. but right now it's your headlines with polly . patrick >> thank you. well, the top stories this hour. rocket sirens have been heard in jerusalem amid the ongoing fighting between hamas and the israeli army. israel has declared war on hamas after their surprise attack on saturday. more than
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800 people have been killed in israel and 500in gaza since then. israel's defence minister has ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip, cutting off food, fuel and electricity . he food, fuel and electricity. he and prime minister benjamin netanyahu , who has warned his netanyahu, who has warned his country's response will change the middle east. israeli media says around 300,000 reservists have been called up in the largest ever draft in the country . expats at frankfurt country. expats at frankfurt airport who managed to flee the violence have been sharing their experiences as tension is quite high for a lot of uncertainty of what to do . what to do. >> so we don't know. >> so we don't know. >> i don't have enough words to tell you about the feelings, the words are , yeah, it's horror, words are, yeah, it's horror, but it's not safe. >> and it's just we don't know what will come. that's the worst i >> well, scotland's first minister says his wife's parents are trapped in gaza after visiting family humza yousaf,
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who unequivocally condemn the hamas attacks, says he's not sure if they'll make it through the night. meanwhile, the foreign secretary says the government will review its support to israel and to british nationals in the country. speaking after a government cobra meeting today, james cleverly said hamas's attacks are unprecedented . are unprecedented. >> we reaffirmed our support to israel in its self—defence against this terrorist attack perpetrated by hamas against unarmed civilians . in many unarmed civilians. in many instances , i've been speaking instances, i've been speaking with with foreign ministers from around the region and beyond, the prime minister has engaged with the israeli prime minister and will be engaging with our allies. this is an ongoing situation and of course we will be reviewing our support to israel and of course british nationals in israel as the situation progresses . situation progresses. >> well, that was a foreign secretary, james cleverly, the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy , says the labour party
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lammy, says the labour party views attacks on israel as utterly appalling. >> there is never, never , ever >> there is never, never, ever a justification for terrorism, labour stands firmly in support of israel's right to defend itself , rescue hostages and itself, rescue hostages and protect its citizens . the protect its citizens. the hostages. so cruelly taken include children, should be released immediately and hamas indiscriminate attacks set back the cause of peace . the cause of peace. >> well, david lammy, of course, speaking at the labour party conference in liverpool and right outside pro—palestinian demonstrations , have been held. demonstrations, have been held. a group of protesters was heard chanting free palestine. if you're watching on television, you're watching on television, you can see flags , placards and you can see flags, placards and banners being held aloft. some of those demonstrators clashing with labour party members . well,
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with labour party members. well, inside conference, the shadow chancellor says her party is ready to rebuild britain . ready to rebuild britain. speaking at the conference in liverpool, rachel reeves spoke of restoring economic security after what she called the chaos of the tory years . she says of the tory years. she says labour plans to revamp the uk's local town planning departments in order to boost the economy and she confirmed plans to overhaul all planning rules to speed up energy and 5g projects. she said the choice of the next general election for the populous was five more years of tory chaos or a change labour party out of the wreckage of tory misrule. >> labour will restore our economic credibility. we will lift our living standards and make work pay , rebuild our make work pay, rebuild our pubuc make work pay, rebuild our public services and invest in home grown industries in every corner of our country. and together , either we will get together, either we will get
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britain its future back well away from conference. >> the government's been defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda in the supreme court today, lawyers representing the home office have told the court that the policy to remove people to a country that is safe, but they say less attractive than the uk is lawful. sirjames eadie says is lawful. sir james eadie says the government has attached considerable importance to the deal over the next three days, several cases collectively known as the rwanda appeals , will as the rwanda appeals, will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling migrants . it's now more than 400 migrants. it's now more than 400 criminals have been jailed for a total of over 3700 years after an operation by the metropolitan police operation in eternal investigated organised crime groups over a three and a half year period. by targeting an encrypted messaging platform , encrypted messaging platform, more than three tonnes of class a and b drugs and nearly 50 weapons were seized in the
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largest ever operation of its kind by the met. the force called it unprecedented . that's called it unprecedented. that's the latest news. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . channel. welcome along to liverpool at the labour party conference. >> we're going to whiz you abroad immediately though, because israel continues to fight back following hamas's surprise on saturday, surprise attack on saturday, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has issued a warning to the terrorist group , saying to the terrorist group, saying that retaliatory attacks we that the retaliatory attacks we have so far are only the have seen so far are only the beginning and that his country will defeat hamas with enormous force. what we're showing you right now is a live feed of gaza. obviously night has fallen there now before before it went dark, there was a series of
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massive explosions that we brought to you live. it's fair to suggest that those will continue throughout the course of the evening. i think no signs of the evening. i think no signs of stopping. and i think actually you some of actually we can show you some of the pictures and images of those explosions as these took place a little earlier on this afternoon. the israelis are continuing as strikes , continuing as strikes, explosions rocked the city as missiles rained down in the ongoing war. so our political editor, christopher hope joins us now . christopher, thank you us now. christopher, thank you very, very much. now it's an interesting scene here at conference. we were just chatting off air. look, labour has got a few big things it needs to get right. it needs to get tax right. it needs to get immigration right. but crucially, it is so far from getting this right. mostly when it comes to hamas and that's right. and israel, i mean, today is a big day for rachel reeves shadow chancellor, her big speech. >> but for most more >> but for me, the most more important one was by david lammy, the shadow foreign secretary. terms secretary. he said in terms aims that the labour support
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that he wants the labour support israel so they can go and get their hostages back from from from hamas . there was no problem from hamas. there was no problem here that would not have happened under the corbyn leadership and that is what's so fascinating, how it's changed leadership and that is what's so fascinatin mood�* it's changed leadership and that is what's so fascinatin mood music,anged leadership and that is what's so fascinatin mood music, they:i leadership and that is what's so fascinatin mood music, they are here. the mood music, they are behaving a party that wants behaving like a party that wants power will play and will and power and will play and will and will appropriately on the will be appropriately on the world they're world stage. they're not a campaign anymore. campaign group anymore. >> so through the >> so talk me through what the main the main developments here at the labour conference are labour party conference are today. we learned today. what have we learned today. what have we learned today ? today? >> learnt from rachel >> what we've learnt from rachel reeves? we know they're reeves? i mean, we know they're going to build behind war planners . they're going to chase planners. they're going to chase down missing down money which went missing dunng down money which went missing during the covid pandemic windfall on energy windfall levy on energy companies. the obr . this companies. the obr. this unelected body gets a legal check on government spending, further taking the choices away from elected politicians. from actual elected politicians. and i think for me it was more the fact that the way they tried to present themselves as the coming party a change of cast, but no real shocks or surprises. i think for gb news viewers, there's no no big news on tax and the rest of it. so i think it's quite interesting. they are
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trying scare the horses, trying not to scare the horses, tiptoe office, holding this tiptoe into office, holding this ming their their lead in ming vase of their their lead in the polls. >> indeed . and where are >> yes, indeed. and where are they when it comes to things like immigration? they keep saying, oh, we're just going to clear the backlog. we're going to clear the backlog. what i hear there is, well, everyone in. probably in. but i was probably wrong. >> they can try >> well, they think they can try and backlog being and get this backlog being cleared. think back cleared. but if you think back to the blair, the final years of the government, they there the blair government, they there were these were there were these immigration amnesties where they they fast. so they couldn't do it as fast. so i always been the i think it's always been the case the rwanda plan is in supreme court right now. will case the rwanda plan is in suprnget court right now. will case the rwanda plan is in suprnget approved 1t now. will case the rwanda plan is in suprnget approved or1ow. will case the rwanda plan is in suprnget approved or not? will case the rwanda plan is in suprnget approved or not? but we they get approved or not? but we heard from keir starmer yesterday we would it yesterday. we would not if it even succeeds, not even if it succeeds, we're not going yeah , they going to do it. so, yeah, they are back foot on immigration. >> i can't help but wonder as well economically whether or not everything's going to stack up for labour party. they have for the labour party. they have said going fund said that they are going to fund and the nhs in terms of overtime for doctors and yes, by tax non—doms. yes. which could end up being a one off tax. yes. and then it might well fall down very quickly.
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>> yes, because people will will leave the country rather than pay leave the country rather than pay this charge kind of person who in this speech today from rachel reeves, talked about rachel reeves, she talked about restoring a share restoring investment as a share of gdp to levels in the last scene in a labour government. so the is they want to get the idea is they want to get companies to invest. they're looking sector looking at a private sector solution problems we're solution to the problems we're facing as a country. facing as a as a country. whether that works, what they what they say to you is they want borrow when it's want to borrow more when it's affordable. economy grows affordable. as the economy grows , more. but no, , they can borrow more. but no, no increases in taxation. no big increases in taxation. income up, as you income tax won't go up, as you know. no >> okay, christopher, thank you very, much. christopher >> okay, christopher, thank you very, there,|uch. christopher >> okay, christopher, thank you very, there,|uch politicalnher hope there, our political editor. now by editor. i'm joined now by political commentator. you joseph you very, joseph david. thank you very, very much for joining joseph david. thank you very, very much forjoining me. i think any second now, joseph, good stuff. can we talk ? hello, good stuff. can we talk? hello, how are you? can we. yes. can we talk really about what's going on in israel and gaza at the moment ? and on in israel and gaza at the moment? and as we understand it, around 1300 people confirmed dead. dad, no doubt the true figure is certainly a lot higher than that . but what's your take than that. but what's your take on what we're seeing at the
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moment ? moment? >> so the jewish community in the united kingdom has just come out of the festival of simchat torah, which means that we would not, for many people who observe the festivities , we didn't know the festivities, we didn't know of the scale of the atrocities until nightfall last night. >> so the ovennhelming feeling that i've noticed is of shock and sadness , disbelief that this and sadness, disbelief that this could happen and sorrow for the dead and the kidnapped. there's also the knowledge that we now have war and there will be inevitable escalations and misery for all this end . misery for all this end. >> pardon? how how how does this end? how does it end, do you think , patrick? think, patrick? >> god only knows how it ends. i think the world has been taken aback by the barbaric savagery of these attacks . and we can of these attacks. and we can only hope that market will be
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neutralised and there will be a new leadership that will be open to peace . to peace. >> yes, i was very , very, very >> yes, i was very, very, very concerned at at some celebrations that took place in london. um, there were some that took place in berlin and there were some that took place in canada and some in the netherlands as well. and actually at a refugee detention centre holding centre on one of the greek islands as well . it the greek islands as well. it appears to me, yosef, that we have quite a large number of people living in this country and europe and the west who would quite like to see israel wiped off the face of the earth. do you agree with that ? do you agree with that? >> in terms of celebrations , one >> in terms of celebrations, one of the by—products of a free society is having people express views that we find very difficult to. so people are free to express their views . but if
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to express their views. but if this crosses a line, uh, crosses the line into hate speech or to talk to terrorist organisations , then we need to see politics. and the here take action. do you think that the jewish community is ready to come back to labour ? >> do you think there was quite a chequered moment in time? wasn't there? i think under jeremy corbyn i'm a signed up member of the conservative party so i very much hope not, but credit where it is due. >> the labour party are saying the right thing . as we can see the right thing. as we can see from the scenes outside the conference, they are still riddled with some far left anti—semites or people who very much have their priorities in the wrong place . butjudging by the wrong place. butjudging by the wrong place. butjudging by the people with authority who are making statements today, they are saying the right things and they are saying that israel
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has the right to defend itself against this savagery which we can't really comprehend . can't really comprehend. >> yeah, i mean, they all, to a man and woman, have on this show anyway said exactly the right thing, really, including the mayor, the mayor of oldham , who mayor, the mayor of oldham, who did openly say that they stand with israel . so i suppose you with israel. so i suppose you can't really necessarily ask for too much more than that at this particular moment in time. there was a concern, though, wasn't there, that labour was to there, that labour was going to tie as yet it tie itself in knots as yet it has not done that and i think they credit that they deserve credit for that because is a minefield of because this is a minefield of anissue because this is a minefield of an issue for the labour party, isn't really? they've isn't it really? and they've managed to avoid just eating themselves managed to avoid just eating the honest,s not have be honest, would not have happened, would it? a couple of years look, thank very, happened, would it? a couple of yearrmuch. _ook, thank very, happened, would it? a couple of year: much. _ook great k very, happened, would it? a couple of yearrmuch. _ookgreat to very, happened, would it? a couple of yearrmuch. _ookgreat to haveery, very much. it's great to have you the show and good luck you on the show and good luck with everything. yosef david there political commentator. there as political commentator. just joining us now. yes. christopher still with christopher hope is still with me here, our political editor. yeah. so there have been pro—palestinian protests . pro—palestinian protests. >> yeah, outside outside ,
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>> yeah, outside outside, though, that's a key point. and you've got reports tonight that rachel reeves thinks that labour members join it . members shouldn't join it. there's been some words exchanged between someone who supported the israeli cause and with the palestinian groups outside, but then not in the confines . so for the party, confines. so for the party, there's no while it's difficult to see the outside as you walk in through these demonstrators , in through these demonstrators, it's not in not in here. it's not it's not part of the labour party. and that's what is so different the corbyn years. different with the corbyn years. >> have we got? >> okay, so what have we got? can a ahead can we can we have a look ahead at we can expect? at what we can expect? >> starmer speech tomorrow. >> keir starmer speech tomorrow. >> keir starmer speech tomorrow. >> so that's tomorrow, right? >> so that's tomorrow, right? >> the briefing >> we have the briefing hasn't hasn't hear hasn't dropped yet. we'll hear that and more from that that more and more from that about 1030 tonight. we're not expecting about 1030 tonight. we're not expectbe big about 1030 tonight. we're not expect be big what about 1030 tonight. we're not expectbe big what i'm might be some big news. what i'm surprised is the lack of surprised about is the lack of any retail would any any retail offer. how would you if ask me to summarise you if you ask me to summarise what labour would offer our viewers? it's hard to say that because it's really more of the viewers? it's hard to say that becauwith s really more of the viewers? it's hard to say that becauwith a really more of the viewers? it's hard to say that becauwith a differentwre of the viewers? it's hard to say that becauwith a different cast the viewers? it's hard to say that becauwith a different cast half same with a different cast half the so your elements of it the time. so your elements of it around the green agenda that's being pushed on spending being pushed out on the spending side with for years your side with for two years your your take this your hot take from this conference is that the two
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parties are very similar. conference is that the two parties are very similar . they parties are very similar. they are very similar with something called ism. back the called buckskin ism. back in the 50s hugo butler, the two labour and tory chancellors agreed on most things and you have got this kind of starmer anarchism or something at the moment where you have basically not a lot of difference. and what the tories are trying is create are trying to do is create difference when it's not really there at all. >> christopher, you >> okay, christopher, thank you very, very much. christopher hope editor hope that our political editor right. you got loads right. okay. look, you got loads more the more on this story and all the updates from conference and if you've the you've missed any of the speeches david lammy, you've missed any of the speecilammy david lammy, you've missed any of the speecilammy cameid lammy, you've missed any of the speecilammy came outammy, you've missed any of the speecilammy came out and y, you've missed any of the speecilammy came out and was david lammy came out and was saying stands with israel, saying he stands with israel, israel's right defend israel's got a right to defend itself. quite strong stuff. itself. it's quite strong stuff. rachel speech as rachel reeves at a speech as well. those available well. all of those are available on you can on our website. or you can go back, a look on back, have a look at them on youtube, on twitter, etcetera . youtube, on twitter, etcetera. gbnews.com youtube, on twitter, etcetera. gb news.com fastest gb news.com is the fastest growing in growing national news website in the . it's got the the country. it's got all the best analysis, all big best analysis, all the big opinion and of course, the latest breaking still latest breaking news now still to come before 5 pm, around 300 migrants crossed the migrants have crossed the channel in the past couple of days. channel in the past couple of days . meanwhile, the days. meanwhile, the government's plan deal with government's plan to deal with illegal is back in the illegal migrants is back in the courtroom. the
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>> join the live desk on gb news is the people's channel. >> britain's news channel . >> britain's news channel. >> britain's news channel. >> well, gb news understands that over 300 migrants crossed the channel into the uk in the last two days. it continues to pile the pressure on rishi sunak , who's pledged to deal with the crisis, has reached a critical point as his rwanda plan has faced a court today .
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faced a supreme court today. look, they've bet the house on rwanda , haven't they? now it's rwanda, haven't they? now it's at final court stage. the at that final court stage. the court ruled in june court of appeal ruled in june that the scheme to deport illegal to the african illegal migrants to the african country was unlawful. and obviously government country was unlawful. and ob get sly government country was unlawful. and ob get that government country was unlawful. and ob get that ruling ernment country was unlawful. and ob get that ruling overturned in to get that ruling overturned in the supreme court. well, for more this now, we speak to more on this now, we speak to our reporter ray addison, who is outside for us outside the supreme court for us today ray, you very, very today. ray, thank you very, very much. i mean, this is this is it for the tories, isn't it, really? got to get really? they've got to get rwanda the ground. it rwanda off the ground. how is it looking ? looking? >> well, it's definitely crunch time for the rwanda policy. now patrick. and obviously day one of this three day hearing has now ended . raza hussein kasai, now ended. raza hussein kasai, who's representing a number of those migrants who were on that plane that we were all watching back in june last year, which never left the runway, has made a number of statements to the court. he told the supreme court rwanda in prisons, tortures and murders , those it considers to murders, those it considers to be its opponents. and he added
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that home office officials had repeatedly recorded their concerns about it. he also said the rwandan asylum system is woefully deficient. it's marked by acute unfairness and arbiter , fairness and serious safeguarding and capacity issues, he said. now sirjames issues, he said. now sir james eadie, kc represents the home office and the government . he office and the government. he described rwanda as a safe but less attractive country . he to less attractive country. he to the uk and said that the government has actually put a lot of key safeguarding elements in place to ensure the safety of any migrants who get deported to rwanda, including an indian dependent monitoring committee who can report back and check on the status of individual applicants. he also said home office officials will be based at the british high commission in kigali . that's, of course, in kigali. that's, of course, the capital of rwanda. and they'll have a right to observe every stage of that process. mr hussein responded by describing the government's claims as
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extravagant and said that they should be rejected . covid now, should be rejected. covid now, of course, as you were saying, patrick, this really is the latest attempt by the government to get their rwanda scheme off the ground . and they're arguing, the ground. and they're arguing, of course, that this will save lives by deterring migrants from making that peril less journey across the english channel. and we just saw today gb news understands , as you've been understands, as you've been saying, that 300 migrants have made that journey over the last two days. and of course , the uk two days. and of course, the uk coastguard had to be involved in some kind of rescue operation earlier on as well. now, these five supreme court judges will consider a number of key questions . key among them does questions. key among them does removing migrants to rwanda breach article three of the european convention on human rights? that, of course, prohibits torture and inhuman or degrading treatment. and secondly, was the court of appeal right to conclude that rwanda was not a safe third country? why did they say that? because they're concerned that rwanda could send some migrants
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deported from the uk back to their home countries. of course , many of them will have said that they are fleeing persecution and that could put them in danger. the court will hear lawyers for migrants hear now lawyers for migrants from vietnam, syria , iran, iraq, from vietnam, syria, iran, iraq, iraq and sudan . and we'll be iraq and sudan. and we'll be taking part in this hearing and their claiming that the uk is actually still governed by the asylum procedures directive, which is you retained eu law. if they're right in that, then that directive actually prevents m i grants directive actually prevents migrants from being deported to countries that they have no connection to. and that's going to be a key consideration for these supreme court judges. now, of course, that judgement is not going to be delivered on wednesday. we can't expect it until the end of the year. they're going to go away and consider very seriously. if consider that very seriously. if the all the government loses, we all have to ask ourselves what is their plan b? rishi sunak just saying that the tory party conference days ago conference a few days ago recommitting to the rwanda scheme, vowed to stop the boats
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and of course , under this and of course, under this legislation, which has been introduced, the illegal migration act, it's actually now a duty for the government to deport asylum seekers who enter the uk illegally , to deport them the uk illegally, to deport them to another country . and so we to another country. and so we remain to remains to be seen how this will play out. >> ray, thank you very, very much. fantastically well summarised. that's right. addison. there outside the supreme court. and in fact, that story peaked. a bit of interest from a couple of gentlemen who were standing behind me asking what going there. so what was going on there. so apologies if you heard bit apologies if you heard a bit of feedback there. look, the conservatives absolutely conservatives are absolutely about the house on this, haven't they? need about the house on this, haven't theyto need about the house on this, haven't theyto the need about the house on this, haven't theyto the line need about the house on this, haven't theyto the line again? this to get over the line again? it raise of it will raise all sorts of questions about european questions about the european convention on human rights and what there whether what happens there and whether or not we should be ruled in any way, form by foreign way, shape or form by foreign judges. be seen judges. it will be seen as a massive humiliation if it doesn't the i doesn't get over the line. i think many people, dare i say it, a lot of gb news viewers and listeners think that regardless of says, those of what the court says, those flights should take flights should just take off. but have law but we do have a rule of law
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here. coming in here. get your emails coming in gb views or gbnews.com just here. get your emails coming in gb vinto; or gbnews.com just here. get your emails coming in gb vinto; or (youews.com just here. get your emails coming in gb vinto; or (you as.com just here. get your emails coming in gb vinto; or (you a little just here. get your emails coming in gb vinto; or (you a little bit just going to give you a little bit of an update now again from israel. well, gaza actually, i think able to show you think we are able to show you some footage. israel some footage. so israel continues to fight back following hamas's surprise attack on saturday. so these these are live images of gaza, obviously night—time there. so quite difficult to make out exactly what was going on. but it's noting that about it's worth noting that about about an ago, there were about an hour ago, there were 5 or 6 massive explosions that took place right there. so israel is launching airstrikes into that region, and that is one of them that took place earlier on. so there we go. israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu has issued a warning to the terrorist group . warning to the terrorist group. he says that the retaliatory attacks we have seen so far are only the beginning and that his country will defeat hamas with enormous force . a huge enormous force. a huge geopolitical issue going on here. what role has iran played? i mean, the taliban were asking for safe passage, weren't they, through iran? and to go to take over israel as well. it does
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feel as though the world and the western world or democracies, i suppose you could say, are being pushed and pulled around at the moment. there is another knock on consequence this , which is on consequence of this, which is going what happens going to be what happens to ukraine result of all of ukraine as a result of all of this. only many this. well there's only so many resources to go around, aren't there? but once again , we are there? but once again, we are showing you or have been showing you live pictures from you there's live pictures from the it's worth the gaza skyline. it's worth beanng the gaza skyline. it's worth bearing in mind as well that at some potentially, could bearing in mind as well that at som(see potentially, could bearing in mind as well that at som(see a potentially, could bearing in mind as well that at som(see a landlntially, could bearing in mind as well that at som(see a land ed ally, could bearing in mind as well that at som(see a land ed invasion.ould well see a land ed invasion. troops, israel troops, the israeli defence force moving into gaza. that would be unprecedented . okay. so it will unprecedented. okay. so it will be interesting to see whether or not the israelis now use this as a way of, frankly , razing gaza a way of, frankly, razing gaza and what goes on. it's interesting here at labour party conference, the timing of this , conference, the timing of this, i think is paramount really. the labour party, as we all know , labour party, as we all know, has had massive issues with anti—semitism in the past and massive issues getting tying itself in knots with whether or not hamas are the leader's friends, etcetera. it is absolutely inconceivable that a
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few years ago under jeremy corbyn's leadership here, that this incident now would be passing without eating this party conference alive . as it party conference alive. as it currently stands , apart from currently stands, apart from a couple of fruity characters who've decided to stand on a platform yesterday with hamas and pro—palestine flags. and there are those people, fine. but the vast majority, the ovennhelming majority of labour mps and labour politician are all saying the same thing. they're saying they stand with israel . they are not in any way, israel. they are not in any way, shape or form getting bogged down in the kind of controversy that the unquestioned would have got themselves into had it been jeremy corbyn at the helm . there jeremy corbyn at the helm. there is a bit of a buzz here at labour party conference. i wouldn't say it's electric, but it has been. i think the speeches, it's fair say , is speeches, it's fair to say, is more well attended than some of those at the conservative party conference. keir starmer does talk tomorrow. i've got loads coming your way. i'm going to be joined very shortly george joined very shortly by george howarth, , a local mp and
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howarth, mp, a local mp and right at the end of the show i've got peter kyle as well, who was a labour frontbencher. but you on every you get loads more on every story covered so far story that we've covered so far on website as gbnews.com. on our website as gbnews.com. it's fastest it's the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got all the best analysis, opinion and the analysis, big opinion and the latest but first latest breaking news. but first it for your headlines it is time for your headlines with the wonderful polly middlehurst . patrick, thank you. middlehurst. patrick, thank you. >> well, the top stories this houn >> well, the top stories this hour. night has now fallen across israel and sirens continue to be heard across the country amid the ongoing fighting between hamas and the israeli army. israel today declared war on hamas, launching airstrikes after a surprise attack by the terrorist organisation on saturday. the country has ordered a complete siege of the gaza strip, cutting off all food supplies, fuel and electricity more than 800 people are reported to have been killed in israel and 500in gaza. meanwhile the shadow chancellor
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says her party is ready to rebuild britain. she was speaking at the labour party conference in liverpool, rachel reeves speaking of restoring economic security for the uk after what she called the chaos of the tory years, she says labour plans to revamp the uk's local planning systems to boost the economy and the government's been busy defending in court today its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda over the next three days. several cases collectively known as the rwanda appeals, will challenge the court of appeals decision to halt resettling migrants . those halt resettling migrants. those are the headlines. more on all of them by heading to our website, gbnews.com . direct website, gb news.com. direct bullion website, gbnews.com. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . so how have silver investment. so how have the markets reacted to the
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weekend's events? well, the pound will buy you $1.2206 and ,1.1579. the price of gold is £1,516.46 an ounce. £0.49 an ounce rather. and the ftse 100 has closed the day today . at has closed the day today. at 7492 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter i >> welcome back to liverpool with me patrick christys. >> it is, of course, the labour party conference. now, earlier we heard shadow chancellor rachel delivering her rachel reeves delivering her keynote speech at ted conference, making the big announcements and announcements on the economy and promising to rebuild britain. well with me now is george howarth, labour mp for knowsley george , thank you very much. george, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. so look, i mean, no massive controversy so far. labour seems
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to be doing okay. i mean, do you back rachel reeves what she's saying about rebuilding britain? what does that mean? what does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook oes that mean? what does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like?1at mean? what does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like? well ean? what does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like? well ian? what does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like? well i mean 1at does saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like? well i mean whatyes saying about rebuilding britain? wlook like? well i mean what is it look like? well i mean what i think what the way rachel all spoke was a mixture of passion and principle , but also and principle, but also pragmatism . pragmatism. >> and i think that is a winning combination . so what's she combination. so what's she doing? she's reassuring people that we're not going to do anything that will damage the personal interests of them and their families. >> she's reassuring business that we'll work with them. we'll work on the priorities that are right for them in the country. and she's reassuring the labour party members that we are still the party of change. >> okay. all right. i mean, people will be, i think, a bit concerned about potential tax hikes, etcetera , and whether or hikes, etcetera, and whether or not when you look at some of the
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things that labour is doing when it comes to private schools or wants do when it comes to wants to do when it comes to private comes private schools, when it comes to non—doms, just look a to non—doms, it does just look a little bit like labour hates the rich. little bit like labour hates the rictwell, don't think that's >> well, i don't think that's true and i think to be honest, most parents and grandparents will be pleased that the money that's saved on on taking away the charitable status will be spent on the broader education system. >> so , you know, it's a question >> so, you know, it's a question of you pays your money, you makes your choice for the majority of people, the most important thing is that we've got enough resources in schools i >> yeah. -- >> yeah. i mean , people who send >> yeah. i mean, people who send their kids to eton or harrow or one of those schools are still going to do that. yeah. so it's actually just going to disadvantage middle class people, isn't it? >> well, i mean, there's two ways of looking at that. >> the first one is that i understand completely why
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parents might look at what's available school in the local area maybe, and they'll stretch their budgets to pay for the kids to have a private education. perfectly understand that perfectly normal thing for a parent to want, but at the same time would they want to do it if the resources were in the state education sector and they thought they'd kids would get a fair crack of the whip and be able to realise their potential. so it's a balance between those two. and all these things are always a balance . and i think on always a balance. and i think on balance we've got it right . balance we've got it right. >> okay, what's the gain ? what's >> okay, what's the gain? what's the gain? what money does it get youwhat is the gain. >> what money is the gain. >> what money is the gain. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> terms. well how's the >> in cash terms. well how's the country going to be? >> better off by load >> better off by a load of. >> better off by a load of. >> oh, i see what you mean. sorry. i mean, if you take sorry. well, i mean, if you take a couple of announcement outs sorry. well, i mean, if you take a cowhavle announcement outs sorry. well, i mean, if you take a cowhavle annnbeen ment outs sorry. well, i mean, if you take a cowhavle annnbeen made)uts sorry. well, i mean, if you take a cowhavle annnbeen made over that have made been made over the last few those those the last few days, those those who get on the property who want to get on the property ladder are going to have the chance to do so. >> how? >> how? >> because the labour party will
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by rebuilding the construction industry and the developer industry and the developer industry working with them , industry working with them, produce properties that will be for sale at an affordable price . i mean, secondly , if you look . i mean, secondly, if you look at the announcements angela rayner made yesterday, those in—work folk will be getting paid properly for the work and under proper conditions there are big gains for a lot of people. if you're on a zero hours contract tracked and you've got no chance of getting on the property ladder, those are two big gains. >> how does labour stop the boats, stop the boats? >> well, i mean, again, if you live in knowsley , there was a live in knowsley, there was a quite a big hoo ha actually there with the migrant hotel , there with the migrant hotel, wasn't there? >> what's the latest there now then? >> well, the people, the refugees who were in the hotel are still there, right. the furore that was orchestrated by
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the far right in the constituency at the time has died down. but let me say this. i don't think the right place for people, refugees is in hotels. >> but i thought was it the far right or was it i thought it might have been people who were quite concerned about the safety of girls. of young girls. >> well, where did that story come from? right okay the come from? right right. okay the story put around on social story was put around on social media that our women and girls aren't safe . i've spoken aren't safe. i've spoken regularly then and since to the police . there's no evidence that police. there's no evidence that thatis police. there's no evidence that that is the case. it was a story put around on two false long standing social media posts that weren't true. okay interesting. >> i wasn't aware of that. so there you go. okay fine. yeah. when it comes when it comes to stopping the boats, then what is the labour plan? >> well, i think the first thing we've got to do is to accept our fair share . we've got to do is to accept our fair share. but no more of refugees. and that means working
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long, particularly with the european union , so that there european union, so that there will be safe routes, not just to the uk but to other parts of the eu and then secondly and again, there have been announcements about this . we've got to assess about this. we've got to assess claims more quickly . claims more quickly. >> okay. >> okay. >> and more effectively because people know at the moment most appeal, people know at the moment most appeal , most people know at the moment most appeal, most appeals against claims where they've been turned down a successful . yeah and you down a successful. yeah and you end up anyway with 90% of those people ended up getting . people ended up getting. >> well we do yes right okay so labour has started to use the language when we get elected. not if it's that wise. do you think? >> no, i think you can never take the electorate for granted. we've had fantastic polls . we've we've had fantastic polls. we've had fantastic by—election results and we expect or hope to
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have further ones. so a combination of polls and by—election results have been great. okay. but it's real votes on election day. >> that count can't predict it. what do you reckon is going to happen? well well, who who am to i predict the outcome of an election ? election? >> i've thought a lot of them. yeah, well, are you're well placed, but my own view is at some times i think jim callahan once said sometimes the tide turns and once it's turned, there's not much you can do about it. i think the tide is turning, but it hasn't fully turned. and you know, if you look at the tory party conference last week , they're conference last week, they're looking for wedge issues where they they can accuse us of doing things that we won't even be doing. >> it was interesting, wasn't it, that his, you know, long term decisions for a brighter future and we got out an update
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to a—levels that might come in in i think ten years time and someone else as well, which i mean , it wasn't put it this way, mean, it wasn't put it this way, it wasn't it wasn't the most inspiring in the world. i will give you that look. thank you very, very much, george. great give you that look. thank you very, veyouiuch, george. great give you that look. thank you very, veyou on], george. great give you that look. thank you very, veyou on theeorge. great give you that look. thank you very, veyou on the show. great give you that look. thank you very, veyou on the show. thank to have you on the show. thank you for waiting so patiently and then us then coming on and giving us your well. of course, your time as well. of course, thatis your time as well. of course, that is george howarth, mp that is george howarth, the mp for with all for knowsley. now look, with all the horrific news the absolutely horrific news coming the conflict in coming out of the conflict in israel, it to the labour israel, we put it to the labour conference attendees. do you stand with israel? here's what they have to say. >> israel has a right to exist , >> israel has a right to exist, as far i see it, it has a as far as i see it, it has a right to exist. its people have a right to exist. and i have a very that's jewish. very close friend that's jewish. so without doubt my mind, so without any doubt in my mind, israel should protect itself, has itself and should has protected itself and should continue to do so. i think it's important to look at it as you know, either way , lives are know, either way, lives are being lost and it's innocent people that are going to be hurt by this. >> and so when we look at this issue, we need to think of it as a human cost. but i think hamas are this .
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are the aggressors in this. >> yes, 100. >> yes, 100. >> you look at what's happening there and nobody should have to deal with that situation . deal with that situation. >> but let's take it away from the big political agendas and take it back to the people who are having to deal with horrors that never imagine . that we can never even imagine. >> oh, yes . >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> it's, you know, really bad what's been happening. i've seen it the news. all deaths it on the news. all the deaths and with israel. and stand with israel. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> any nation state has the right defend itself. right to defend itself. >> israel has been invaded. >> israel has been invaded. >> come under attack from >> it's come under attack from a terrorist organisation in israel is doing what any any country would do in any such circumstances. israel's right to exist. it has a right to defend its territory and most importantly, defend its citizens. i am a supporter of the palestinian people's right to live free, to live without apartheid . and i absolutely apartheid. and i absolutely don't condone violence. >> but i see the current situation as being a natural outcome of decades of oppression
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of those people. and while i do not in any way endorse violent conflict, i think this is a situation that could be predicted. and i'd like to see both sides working together to reach a quick resolution here so that all people live in that all people can live in peace. for the peace. but certainly for the palestinian can live palestinian people can live without apartheid . without apartheid. >> i'm joined now by the shadow secretary of for science secretary of state for science innovation and technology, peter kyle , who blamed labour for what kyle, who blamed labour for what was this squandering? is that right? the uk is picking are you picking up on one little one little tick of words? somebody is back at base, i'm telling you. yeah. there we go . anyway, you. yeah. there we go. anyway, so be to talking so we're going to be to talking him after the break. yes, there we patrick gb we go. i'm patrick rhiannon gb news, channel lot news, britain's news channel lot more tuned. all
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the people's . channel the people's. channel >> welcome back to liverpool. >> welcome back to liverpool. >> it is of course, the labour party conference. you're with me patrick christys on gb news. now as israel continues to fight back following hamas's surprise attack saturday, israel's attack on saturday, israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu issued a warning netanyahu has issued a warning to terrorist group saying to the terrorist group saying that the retaliatory attacks we have seen so far are only the beginning. these are live shots of gaza . i had been quite quiet of gaza. i had been quite quiet actually recently, but i believe that we can see what looks to me anyway like there's a fire raging at the moment there. so it would appear that the airstrikes are continuing. benjamin netanyahu vowed to benjamin netanyahu has vowed to continue with quotes, enormous force. once again, we are now showing you these live pictures
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of the skyline . smoke was of the gaza skyline. smoke was seen earlier on. seen rising earlier on. it continues to and rockets continues to rise and rockets are, course, raining down on are, of course, raining down on that it is , after all, an that city. it is, after all, an ongoing war. and peter kyle joins me now, mp, shadow secretary of state for science , secretary of state for science, innovation and technology . thank innovation and technology. thank you very much. great to have you on. so look, i mean, israel, palestine , it's an absolute palestine, it's an absolute mess. do you stand with israel? of course. >> just minute's >> we've just had a minute's silence floor of the silence on the floor of the conference, and i've come straight from that hear straight from that to hear a solemn moment which the solemn moment which reflects the world at world going outside, because at times , when we focus times like this, when we focus as party on us, ourselves, as as a party on us, ourselves, as as a party on us, ourselves, as a party and relationship on a party and our relationship on policy with the country, policy terms with the country, sometimes you can forget what's going on around the world, but that's not the case here. >> we stand in solidarity with israel this time they israel at this this time they were subject to terror attack were subject to a terror attack on a music festival. so the intent of that was to cause terror . terror. >> and israel has the right to defend itself and israel has the right to try and retrieve of the people who have been taken hostage, including we now know,
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people who are children and elderly and perhaps a holocaust survivor. >> did all the people who are saying exactly what you just said , which to be fair to a man said, which to be fair to a man and woman, every single labour mp i've spoken to today and one mayor has said a version of what you've just said there, they must biting their must have been biting their tongues when jeremy corbyn was in charge. >> jeremy corbyn was in charge a long time ago. >> our party fundamentally changed. >> so jeremy corbyn is no longer a labour mp. >> so jeremy corbyn is no longer a l.jeremyip. >> so jeremy corbyn is no longer a l.jeremy corbyn is not at this >> jeremy corbyn is not at this conference. in fact, i mean you would seen some of the would have seen some of the scenes that he didn't get through barriers to through the security barriers to come into the conference. >> you know, keir starmer he's fixed our party, he's modernised >> you know, keir starmer he's fixe party,party, he's modernised >> you know, keir starmer he's fixe party, party changed dernised our party, he's changed our party. he's party. therefore he's in a position change the country. position to change the country. but who but rishi sunak the people who blew a in the economy , blew a hole in the economy, they're still tory mps , the they're still tory mps, the people who broke the law and trashed our international reputation . reputation. >> they're still tory mps . so >> they're still tory mps. so rishi sunak hasn't fixed his party. >> keir starmer has. >> keir starmer has. >> so the question is keir has. >> so the question is keir has. >> when will rishi sunak fix his
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party? >> well, okay. there you go. just about some of the key funding for stuff so it appears to be coming as far as i'm aware from two areas non—doms and windfall tax. now the non—dom side of things is , i believe, side of things is, i believe, going to pay for more doctors over time to fix the nhs and get the waiting list down. is that not just a one off tax because they'll all leave, won't they actually, so the non—dom tax rate will raise about £2 billion. >> we want to invest that straight away in diagnostic equipment for the nhs. we want to make sure that we can also improve dentistry. so we've announced this time that we will create 700,000 new appointment in the dental system so that we can get people nhs dentistry back on the agenda. and then yes , also we want to make sure we can finish the job. on staff recruitment. we wanted to double the number of training places for doctors, triple it for nurses is coming from non—doms. >> yes. and happens >> yes. and what happens when they leave ? they leave? >> well, is there is lots >> well, there is there is lots of evidence that shows they
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wouldn't. now we can we can. we can. can can argue the can. we can we can argue the toss on this. we can argue the toss on this. we can argue the toss on this. our primary toss on this. but our primary mission in government to mission in government is to get the growing, the the economy growing, the proceeds growth our proceeds of growth in our economy sustainably economy will fund sustainably our public services and all the things we want to invest in in terms of transitioning our economy, making sure we can create jobs in the in in create great jobs in the in in the industries of the future. but jobs but those great jobs being available because available to everyone because right some of these tech right now some of these tech jobs that coming up, the r&d right now some of these tech jobsthet coming up, the r&d right now some of these tech jobsthe science ning up, the r&d right now some of these tech jobsthe science jobs, up, the r&d right now some of these tech jobsthe science jobs, they're r&d and the science jobs, they're coming from quite narrow pool coming from quite a narrow pool because you've got to go through elite institutions to there. elite institutions to get there. what to create what we want to do is to create these jobs and sure those what we want to do is to create thesnareys and sure those what we want to do is to create thesnare therei sure those what we want to do is to create thesnare there for sure those what we want to do is to create thesnare there for everyone.hose what we want to do is to create thesnare there for everyone from jobs are there for everyone from every background. >> what dating eu ? >> & so rry. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> yeah, know. david lammy >> yeah, i know. david lammy said britain was it to date said that britain was it to date the date europe. the eu date europe. >> so i. i like the way he's phrasing this because it is fun and it shows that there is a completely different approach out there. having rules with the eu hasn't delivered for us. actually, rishi sunak has actually, when rishi sunak has fixed some the problems that fixed some of the problems that his created, such as
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his own deal created, such as the windsor framework and also excluding us from things like the programme . he's done the horizon programme. he's done it by sitting it actually by sitting diligently around diligently and quietly around the and coming with the table and coming out with a deal actually having big public bus stops hasn't solved problems. having priti patel and then suella braverman excluded from the migration from some of the migration meetings that are having and the security and intelligence meetings happening meetings that are happening haven't for this haven't delivered for this country. negotiation , country. diligent negotiation, often hard negotiation . but often hard negotiation. but being in the room doing it will so if you want to sell that as a dating as a bit of colourful language, then surely it's better than rowling. >> yeah. and labour is now >> yeah. okay. and labour is now starting to use the language of not if we get into power, but. but when do you think that's wise? >> we're not using it. i'm not using it. it might slip out from time to time because people frame it as when you get in and we engage on terms, there frame it as when you get in and wmotgage on terms, there frame it as when you get in and wmo complacency terms, there frame it as when you get in and wmo complacency with ms, there frame it as when you get in and wmo complacency with us. there is no complacency with us. i think see is think what you see here is a conference where we are rolling up our sleeves and getting ready for opportunity serve. up our sleeves and getting ready for that'sportunity serve. up our sleeves and getting ready for that'sporiright. serve. up our sleeves and getting ready for that'spori right. yeah ve. up our sleeves and getting ready for that'spori right. yeah okay. >> that's all right. yeah okay. now your throat. don't
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now clear your throat. don't worry. to the best of worry. it happens to the best of us. so, look, us. absolutely. yeah. so, look, i it makes a really i mean, it makes a really interesting really? which i mean, it makes a really in'thatting really? which i mean, it makes a really in'that actually, really? which i mean, it makes a really in'that actually, realfair,hihich i mean, it makes a really in'that actually, realfair, itiich is that actually, to be fair, it is that actually, to be fair, it is very a kind of quiet, is very much a kind of quiet, confident. right . yeah. confident. you're right. yeah. no, no. okay, fine. can we get this water, this man a glass of water, please? very sorry. i've please? i'm very sorry. i've drunk that, but there is a quiet confidence in the air and i can understand as well. know, understand it as well. you know, they seem to be putting they don't seem to be putting too wrong, is too many foots wrong, and it is hard think, hard to overstate. i think, actually, what's going actually, how this what's going on israel palestine on in israel and palestine at the is a potential the moment is a is a potential would a potential would have been a potential massive the labour massive hiccup for the labour party. not they've not party. there's not they've not stumbled at all so far and stumbled on it at all so far and i think they deserve quite a bit of that. you're back of credit for that. you're back in because was in the room good, because i was running say running out of things to say then anyway, so you then anyway, right? so you wouldn't you're not, wouldn't say when you're not, you're not that confident yet, you're not that confident yet, you're going a big you're not going to get a big stonking there stonking labour majority. there is complacency is no complacency here. >> purposefulness . >> all there is purposefulness. >> all there is purposefulness. >> we are up our >> we are rolling up our sleeves. we are developing a programme for government. we are showing are showing the public that we are a united united behind united party, united behind a positive vision for a better britain. we will fix our public services. we will get growth into the economy, and we will
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make that make sure that we are reorientating country to the reorientating our country to the future. you can only fix the growth issues in our economy if you're tackling the things that are our economy back. are dragging our economy back. 7.5 people waiting for 7.5 million people waiting for treatment , they are treatment on the nhs, they are not fully able to express themselves their potential themselves and their potential in economy. million in the economy. 2.5 million people not entered people have not entered re—entered the economy after covid. these these glaring groups people who are not groups of people who are not economically active. it's a personal tragedy, but it's also holding back our economy and our growth. so public services, getting schools up and running again, stopping the concrete, falling from we've seen, falling in from what we've seen, all things contribute all these things contribute towards all these things contribute towwhat i'll put you out your >> what i'll put you out your misery in a minute, but what if you can what what do you want keir starmer to say tomorrow? quickly? >> i want keir starmer to do the leadership bit we've had rachel reeves putting out economic reeves putting out the economic platform. me there platform. you've had me there today speech science, today. my speech doing science, innovation, technology , giving innovation, technology, giving ten attracting ten year funding, attracting private investment into our r&d, those things create long private investment into our r&d, thosegrowth. create long private investment into our r&d, thosegrowth. you'lleate long private investment into our r&d, thosegrowth. you'll have.ong private investment into our r&d, thosegrowth. you'll have wes term growth. you'll have wes streeting and you'll have bridget phillipson doing public services. keir needs to do
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services. what keir needs to do is wrap that together and then show public his show the public what his leadership will deliver in terms of change for the country. and i know that he'll it. know that he'll do it. >> peter, thank much. >> peter, thank you very much. >> peter, thank you very much. >> you congrats for >> thank you and congrats for coming for round two, coming back for round two, though. peter kyle mp charlie, the of state for the secretary of state for science, innovation and technology. are technology. look, you are watching me watching or listening to me patrick gb news. patrick christys on gb news. i believe joins now believe bev turner joins me now from studio . a pleasant, from the studio. a pleasant, unexpected addition the end unexpected addition to the end of bev, how are you? of the show. bev, how are you? hello, good, patrick thank hello, very good, patrick thank you. hello, very good, patrick thank youvery obviously i was in >> very good. obviously i was in manchester last week for the conference. delights conference. you get the delights of with my of being in liverpool with my normal co—presenter in the mornings. pierce mornings. andrew pierce i do hope himself hope he's behaving himself there this i'm sitting in for this week. i'm sitting in for michel for most of this week, not tomorrow night, but obviously huge week in terms of the middle east. we're going to be discussing the events of the last now i'm going last three days. now i'm going to joe phillips here in the to have joe phillips here in the studio with me and alex dean, and we're going to be talking about everything. i mean, it is still being bombed as we still gaza is being bombed as we speak. still gaza is being bombed as we speak . it really is a dreadful speak. it really is a dreadful situation. the humanitarian
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stories out of that stories coming out of that situation are dreadful. so we're going to be talking about that. and course, reflecting and then, of course, reflecting on labour party on events at the labour party conference as well. conference this morning as well. well, rest of today, absolutely. >> i look fonnard to it. i'm sure the nation does as well. bev, thank you very, very much. is it's bev turner there. he'll be for michelle be filling in for michelle dewberry next hour. dewberry for the next hour. thank very much, everybody. thank you very much, everybody. i will return yet from i will return yet again from liverpool tomorrow. see you then. easy. then. take it easy. >> greg >> hello there and greg dewhurst. your dewhurst. and welcome to your latest weather forecast latest gb news weather forecast . we'll see some patchy low cloud and fog developing, particularly cloud and fog developing, particofirly cloud and fog developing, particof england and wales, but parts of england and wales, but further heavy rain pushing into scotland . that's courtesy of scotland. that's courtesy of weather fronts pushing through over few days. this over the next few days. this weather front are dividing line between air to south between warm air to the south and trying to come and colder air trying to come into the north by middle of into the north by the middle of the we've already got that the week. we've already got that cloud spilling into cloud and rain spilling into parts northern ireland, parts of northern ireland, pushing into western scotland as we evening we move through this evening into hours , elsewhere into the early hours, elsewhere turning there'll be turning quite grey, there'll be some and low cloud some mist and low cloud developing by the of the developing by the end of the night, particularly south developing by the end of the night, ppartslarly south developing by the end of the night, pparts ofly south developing by the end of the night, pparts of the south developing by the end of the night, pparts of the uk south developing by the end of the night, pparts of the uk and|th western parts of the uk and fairly mild temperatures for all
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staying up in double figures . so staying up in double figures. so it's a wet start across scotland to start tuesday morning. outbreaks of heavy rain which will continue to push slowly south eastwards through the day here. so we could see some further flooding issues brightening up across parts of england wales . some low england and wales. some low cloud, lingering across cloud, though, lingering across southern of southern counties. plenty of hazy sunshine here, lifting temperatures to around 23 or 24, turning increasingly windy across the northern half of the uk as weather fronts push in those weather fronts slowly push their way southwards into wednesday, heavy at wednesday, turning heavy at times, particularly across parts of wales. further north, brighter , sunny spells and brighter, sunny spells and scattered showers, particularly across northwest scotland. some of these heavy at times quite muqqy of these heavy at times quite muggy across southern parts of the uk under that cloud and rain a bit fresher further north and turning cooler as we head towards weekend
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on full pay for men undergoing the andropause. that's the male menopause. have we become a nafion menopause. have we become a nation of complete hypochondriacs ? all of that to hypochondriacs? all of that to come tonight on dewbs & co with come tonight on dewbs& co with me bev turner. but first, the latest news headlines with polly i >> beth, thank you. and at 6:00, our top story is that the united nafions our top story is that the united nations says israel is order of a complete siege on gaza is deeply distressing. the country's declared war on hamas after the terrorist group launched an attack on saturday. more than 800 people are reported to have been killed inside israel and 500 others in gaza since then. well, the un
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