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despite . we london tonight. despite. we within the last 15 minutes, the metropolitan police said that had now moved on and the protests had been wrapped up . protests had been wrapped up. but early this evening, if you're watching on television, you're watching on television, you can see there are waving palestinian flags , free palestinian flags, free palestinian flags, free palestinian banners and fireworks being let off as chants of israel is a terrorist state rang out. the metropolitan police said it was looking into suspected criminal damage. well, the prime minister, rishi sunak, has attended a prayer service tonight in a synagogue reaffirming the uk's unwavering support for israel and the foreign secretary, james cleverly says the government will also stand by israel reaffirmed our support court to israel in its self—defence sense against this terrorist attack perpetrated by hamas, against unarmed civilians in many instances, this is an ongoing situation and of course we will
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be reviewing our support to israel and of course, british nationals in israel as the situation progresses . well, in situation progresses. well, in politics today, the shadow chancellor said labour was ready to rebuild britain and restore economic security after what she called the chaos of the tory years. speaking at the labour party conference, rachel reeves said labour planned to revamp the uk's local town planning departments in order to boost the economy . the economy. >> me out of the wreckage of tory misrule . labour will tory misrule. labour will restore our economic credibility . we will lift our living standards, make work pay, rebuild our public services, invest it in home grown industries in every corner of our country, and together we will get britain its future back i >> well, also today, the government was defending its plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda in the supreme court. sir
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james eadie, kc, representing the home office, told the court the home office, told the court the policy was safe and lawful , the policy was safe and lawful, all despite the east african country being less attractive to migrants than the uk. it's after the court of appeal ruled the policy was unsafe as there was a risk that rwanda could send migrants back to their country of origin . us gb news. across of origin. us gb news. across the uk on tv, in your car. on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners. your first look at tomorrow's papers. i'm simon evans and i'm joined tonight by the posh and becks of the british comedy circuit, nicholas de santo and bruce devlin . de santo and bruce devlin. >> good evening. obviously, you've been you've been designated posh. >> i guess, because you're wearing the tie, but also your
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slighter of build, you know, and i'd take it as a compliment. >> and then bruce is like >> yeah. and then bruce is like a hero and, you know, treasure. >> but not our nation, sadly, bruce , that's referring to. bruce, that's i'm referring to. >> yeah . your own home. >> yeah. your own home. >> yeah. your own home. >> do you much do you get >> do you get much do you get much home grown because much home grown support because we twitter feed. we monitor the twitter feed. >> i never really noticed >> but i never really noticed whether whether it shifts across the border you're on. the border when you're on. >> people like the >> i think some people like the fact that i really don't know what talking about. yes what i'm talking about. yes >> and that might be your constituency rather than a nationalistic yeah. nationalistic one. yeah. yeah, i would say so. yeah. but no, i've had some nice, nice had some nice, very nice comments social media. find comments on social media. i find it comforting. don't they? it very comforting. don't they? they don't feel alone. they don't want to feel alone. that's good. so let's a that's good. so let's take a look those front pages. the look at those front pages. the daily with hamas. daily mail kick off with hamas. we'll kill hostage for each israeli attack. and surprisingly , let's say those scenes are in kensington, the daily mail, hamas, sorry , the guardian. hamas, sorry, the guardian. next, israel declare hours siege of gaza as hamas threatens captives and an explosion there
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in gaza. the financial times next. israel enforces complete siege of gaza further horrifying photographic evidence the telegraph israel no choice but to seize gaza . the and the i has to seize gaza. the and the i has hamas threat to execute eight hostages as israel prepares ground invasion . the star has ground invasion. the star has thin edge of the veg once again an outlier. those were your front pages as . so let's begin front pages as. so let's begin with the daily mail. nicholas >> well, of course, the news is still very much dominated by the dramatic conflict in israel , and dramatic conflict in israel, and we have an image of demonstrators in kensington in front of the israeli embassy, the title says, how can the british left make excuses for a terrorist group that murders women and children? obviously, as usual , the palestinians and
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as usual, the palestinians and in particular hamas enjoy some sort of solidarity or sympathy among the west. it kind of beggars belief. we were just heanng beggars belief. we were just hearing in our own gb news bulletin demonstrators, pro palestinians chanting israel is a terrorist state, just as we've seen images of people being dragged out of their homes, their cars gunned down and in some more disconcerting cases, million agents or terrorists actually celebrating over their naked dead bodies, or they say and the occupation. well, i've got news for these people. israel did end the occupation of gaza and they elected hamas. so the pro—israeli argument or counter argument would be, okay, i did end the occupation of that bit. i'm still occupying west bank, but who gives me who guarantees my security ? if guarantees my security? if i were to leave that part as well as often happens when these things escalate , it makes things escalate, it makes everyone's position that much more intractable, doesn't it? >> anyone who was 5050, about
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whether israel was right to put up a security fence and 500 checkpoint will feel a good deal less inclined to remove that fence in the near future. >> turns out border walls do work. yeah. >> well , sometimes if they are >> well, sometimes if they are done properly, there are any number of questions , one of number of questions, one of which has to be did they how which has to be how did they how did intelligence fail? did their intelligence fail? >> dramatic? they >> so dramatic? how did they find themselves with various posts, so on? posts, unmanned. and so on? i mean, they had they become lax. it's very hard to say. but but certainly i think there is a lot of justified anger at allowing this kind of demonstration outside the israeli embassy. bruce, doesn't to a bruce, that doesn't seem to be a controversial point. >> i i'm really i just i just i find it all so appalling. >> i really do. >> i really do. >> i really do. >> i find it really scary and, yeah, i just one thing i know that people have said, nicholas, i don't know whether you have a view on this is that, you know, obviously the israeli—palestinian conflict that has been going for , on you
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that has been going for, on you could say, since the establishment of israel, but the last ten, 15 years, the escalation there with hamas installed inside gaza and so on and the intensity of it, we're seeing much more evidence that it has support in london and in the uk generally. >> then i can remember, i mean, i don't obviously your memory will be different anyway. growing up in the last century, there was there was never this sort of sense that, somebody sort of sense that, as somebody said, israel does something bad , then israelis and jews in london become threatened. you know, extra security has to be provided. and if something is done bad to israel, extra security is necessary in london to protect jews . do you see what to protect jews. do you see what i mean? it goes either way. and it just feels to me like this is quite a worrying trend in in london that there is a there is a significant contingent on who are pro palestine and not ready to apologise for anything that
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they do. >> well, that is quite, quite alarming, isn't it, because we our overlords keep telling us that diversity is a strength and it's cultural enrichment. >> at of this and >> and look at some of this and ironically, they define britain by tolerance. and these by its tolerance. and these people, them have people, most of them do have british passports because it's enough for british passports because it's encyears for british passports because it's encyears in for british passports because it's encyears in this for british passports because it's encyears in this country. for british passports because it's encyears in this country. andir six years in this country. and you get british passport. you get a british passport. right. they say britain is right. and they say britain is because no longer define because we can no longer define ourself a nation by the ourself as a nation by the engush ourself as a nation by the english language by the english language or by the empire or by the industrial revolution, it was not revolution, because it was not carbon colonialism carbon neutral or colonialism because all of them were bad and were white supremacy. so we are tolerant . so where is the tolerant. so where is the tolerant. so where is the tolerant here? because this is this terrorism attacking this is terrorism attacking civilians and taking hostages and celebrating over their dead bodies. and it's quite it's quite disappointing to see that even some some parties or some some some even celebrity is fail to recognise this and fail to condemn it. >> moving on to the guardian , >> moving on to the guardian, bruce, what do they have similar lead well this is to do with the
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tory party conference, the labour party conference where keir starmer is to promise new powers for all of england's towns and cities. >> he wants to kind of mix up devolution and give much more kind of regional representation and powers to councils , etcetera. >> and the biggest expansion of devolution since labour was last in power. he will pledge that councils and combined authorities would get more control over such stuff as housing and planning skills, energy, transport and the kind that are currently held by london, the west midlands and greater manchester. >> so we're looking at more mayors essentially i >> but then all the kind of i thought all the councils were kind of going an administrator. >> so i'm not sure where they're going get them. going to get them. >> not riding the crest of >> it's not riding the crest of a in terms of localised a wave in terms of localised municipal authority, don't municipal authority, i don't think. municipal authority, i don't thirlt seems a bit more. >> it seems a bit more. >> it seems a bit more. >> it seems a bit more. >> i mean, some of these mayors, i don't know, people quite i don't know, some people quite they greater they think the greater manchester, name? manchester, what's his name? andy andy burnham. burnham as he's created nice he's sort of created a nice little fiefdom for himself out
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there, you know, there, isn't he? but, you know, he big, major labour. he he was a big, major labour. he was was a labour hopeful was he was a labour hopeful before got in. i don't before corbyn got in. i don't know too much about it on the day to day running of the place, but that has always felt to me like a kind of it's a natural environment. greater manchester, it's quite a sizeable community. it history its it has its own history and its own and i don't know how own culture and i don't know how many more places you can start scaling that down to. i mean, what nonnich , ipswich, what nonnich, ipswich, cambridge, know , there comes cambridge, you know, there comes a where think you've a point where you think you've got certain amount of got to have a certain amount of critical mass, haven't you, to achieve and achieve any independence and have decent budget. well yeah, have a decent budget. well yeah, because well what they're saying is that the tories levelling up is that the tories levelling up is just not working and it hasn't represented anyone and of course the big thing is the hs2 thing and that that seems to have gone off. >> so yeah , as i say, i'm really >> so yeah, as i say, i'm really not sure how they're going to make it work because as i say, as they stand at the moment, they don't seem to be well, like birmingham did they not go into
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administration recently? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah, they're terrible, terrible telegraph next i think that's right. >> obviously we leave the israeli conflict out for now yeah and right at the bottom we have guy fox ditched by hard up council so we know 5th of november they're going to make their money is round the corner and a lot of these hard up councils are basically skimping on bonfires which apparently on bonfires which are apparently it's such a shame because guy fawkes obviously is a big story suggesting story of the history of the british nation, glorious pageants and so on. exactly. it's fun for the kids. and as i was saying, we have so many of our cultural or historical identity this mantled or, you know , mothballed because of know, mothballed because of racism and also, of course, they now have halloween five days beforehand, which is arguably a bigger celebration for a lot of kids nowadays, makes more sense to them. >> they get to dress up in a costume .
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costume. >> it was always a bigger celebration in scotland. >> i think it was because we had a thing called guising and whereas it's this trick whereas now it's all this trick or treat stuff, which is basically people just mugging you your door. basically people just mugging you my your door. basically people just mugging you my kids door. basically people just mugging you my kids have always said >> my kids have always said halloween which halloween after christmas, which is obviously a purely capitalist, christmas, capitalist, but after christmas, halloween favourite halloween is their favourite houday halloween is their favourite holiday festival. it's holiday stroke festival. it's the get most excited the one they get most excited about. i would say it about. i think i would say it kind of works for young kids in a but fawkes was a way, but guy fawkes was always, course , slightly always, of course, slightly problematic, it's more problematic, but it's more inspiring, burning inspiring, literally burning a catholic. i mean, you know, he was wrong'un, no question was a wrong'un, no question about it. you know, he'd asked for had it probably for it, but it had it probably was installed in to order maintain the kind of religious bigotry, whereas halloween is it's spookiness, suppose it's just spookiness, i suppose maybe what i'm allowed to maybe that's what i'm allowed to be a bit cynical. maybe that's what i'm allowed to be i'dit cynical. maybe that's what i'm allowed to be i'd say nical. maybe that's what i'm allowed to be i'd say some of these >> i'd say some of these councils that spend thousands on colouring crossings colouring pedestrian crossings into they into rainbow flags, maybe they could some money could have saved some money there it on guy. there and used it on guy. >> i do think even though it's only half an hour, there only over in half an hour, there is something lovely about a large, large crowd people large, large crowd of people gathered on a hillside, isn't there watching, magic there watching, watching magic unfold you know,
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unfold in the sky. you know, it's sad to think that might go forever because once they stop doing couple years doing it for a couple of years in row, it will just bump back in a row, it will just bump back and bounce finish off with the daily star. very quickly. bruce. >> of the wedge. >> this is heston blumenthal's a dish of vegetables stew, a celery stew in his restaurant is retailing at £40 per head. >> wow . >> wow. >> wow. >> the cost of living crisis and that used to be a diet because apparently it has less calories than it takes to digest or something, isn't it? >> yeah, i think that's a load of rubbish. >> like the one about the >> it's like the one about the grapefruit the eggs. grapefruit and the eggs. >> like a very niche >> that sounds like a very niche activity. that the front activity. that is the front pages covered. join us in a couple dip couple of minutes for a dip inside we have hunt versus reeves. judge dredd versus shoplifters. ramen versus braverman. we'll see
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one way to avoid school detention, but it's not ideal, obviously not. >> jewish school cancels >> london jewish school cancels detention and tells students they have to wear blazers they do not have to wear blazers as metropolitan police as the metropolitan police confirmed. they will be increasing patrols outside schools provide reassurance schools to provide reassurance after a spate of anti semitic attacks . so, yes, sadly, as we attacks. so, yes, sadly, as we were discussing , the police are were discussing, the police are ramping up security and this school has told the people or the pupils or their pupils, the pupils, parents rather. okay. blazers optional because they don't want to be too identifiable or easy targets . identifiable or easy targets. >> i suppose the obvious thing to say is are the blazers obviously jewish? i don't know what i mean. obviously jewish? i don't know whati mean. perhaps obviously jewish? i don't know what i mean. perhaps the school is known in the area , but i is known in the area, but i wondered what the iconography might have been on the badge. right. okay >> sort of thing. but obviously we didn't get any images or i mean there there are all mean there are there are all kinds of ways in which, you know, people who are intent on causing damage might be able to isolate and identify people. >> think the school run >> i would think the school run is be
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is probably going to be monitored closely. but monitored quite closely. but i don't why their detention don't know why their detention thing because maybe thing is. perhaps because maybe that increases the number of hours people pupils are . hours people pupils are. >> they're kept together. >> they're kept together. >> it's one interesting thing. a lot of people shared a picture of a kosher restaurant that had had its windows smashed, but apparently they're treating that as a burglary rather than a hate crime. >> yeah, there have been different different incidents. >> unfortunate that >> again, it's unfortunate that at some echelons of the establishment or the media, like novara media, for example, here, notoriously a left wing outlet . notoriously a left wing outlet. but one of their editors has said the first day of this war has to be celebrated for all supporters of democracy and human rights. i don't know if they know if they have checked how hamas treats their beloved lgbt community gaza strip. >> it's so strange, isn't it? the kind of cognitive dissonance you're intersectionality hierarchy . so all the members of hierarchy. so all the members of novara media, one way or another, essentially tweeted support of palestine and i think she was the you know, the most extraordinary to actually say it
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was a day of celebration rather than it was in some respects justified by years of oppression and occupation. >> i think they're honest, some of them, but is extraordinary . of them, but is extraordinary. >> and these people continue to be invited on to bbc, newsnight and so to give views and so on to give their views about gb should be about whether gb news should be cancelled. worth cancelled. you know, worth beanng cancelled. you know, worth bearing anyway, um, bearing in mind anyway, um, bruce, the son. >> yes. so this is shadow chancellor rachel reeves , who chancellor rachel reeves, who was slammed by jeremy hunt and a whole host of other people for not mentioning the single biggest economic issue in her major conference speech . major conference speech. >> and that is the thorny issue of inflation. >> the single biggest issue which the tories have created. yes, exactly. that's the whole thing. but it's just it's ping pong. all the time, isn't it? you know, you did it or you know, a big kid did it or all that kind of stuff. so basically what hunt is saying is that in order for labour fund order for labour to fund everything, because i think they believe going believe that they're going to resolve economy all the resolve the economy with all the non—dom status reversals and all that of stuff. want to that kind of stuff. they want to overhaul universal credit, child
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benefit kind benefit and all this kind of stuff, will it will be stuff, but it will it will be them borrowing £28 billion in which to fund all these new things. so you can get a perfectly good track and trace app perfectly good track and trace app for that. well well, this is the thing. she wants to have a covid inquiry. and i thought, right, okay, that's fine. why doesn't someone just find where michelle mone is and bring her back ask some questions? back and ask her some questions? because i know not in the because i know she's not in the isle of man, she's not in glasgow, so she's at large somewhere. glasgow, so she's at large somewhereshe's in china. you >> maybe she's in china. you never know. china i think. i think the i mean, broadly speaking, rachel reeves is budget or budget speech has been intended not to frighten the horses, i think, isn't it, rather than to activate the base , would you say. >> but then i think i think that's the party line, though, because we were discussing that the other evening with starmer, and was basically saying, and he was basically saying, play and he was basically saying, play down. yeah the play it down. yeah the likelihood will get in. likelihood is we will get in. but want to appear but we don't want to appear arrogant. don't want to arrogant. we don't want to appear cocky. >> there to be lost rather >> is there to be lost rather than be won? than to be won? >> when do you think it will be?
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do you think it will be? yeah >> this time year, >> at this time next year, right? yeah. pretty late. yeah. i i would have at i mean, i would have hoped at some that they might have some point that they might have been so much pain been creating so much pain financially could financially so that they could ease a bitjust financially so that they could ease a bit just before ease it off a bit just before the election. but the tourism selves there's very the election. but the tourism selve chance there's very the election. but the tourism selve chance of there's very the election. but the tourism selve chance of them 3's very the election. but the tourism selve chance of them beingy the election. but the tourism selve chance of them being able little chance of them being able to do that. i think it is to do that. so i think it is probably going to be an election, a labour victory. but the just don't the question, they just don't want be slaughtered, they? want to be slaughtered, do they? that's the thing. they don't want to be slaughtered, do they? that' it:he thing. they don't want to be slaughtered, do they? that' it to thing. they don't want to be slaughtered, do they? that' it to be ng. they don't want to be slaughtered, do they? that' it to be ng. 197y don't want to be slaughtered, do they? that' it to be ng. 197 againt want it to be like 97 again where you get that, you know, it's very hard to build up again, yeah again, you know? yeah >> do we not just have >> but then do we not just have to wait for rupert murdoch to tell what colour of party is tell us what colour of party is our our new. >> our new. >> well, he's gone now, isn't he. he's still. yeah he he. although he's still. yeah he is. he's actually removed himself. life himself. yes. real life succession scenario. but anything wanted say on anything you wanted to say on this, anything you wanted to say on thiswell, you know, in in >> well, you know, in in football pre—match interviews, post—match interviews, both sides give each other a lot of compliments because if they win, they've won against the big side. if they lose, they've won against. >> that's yeah. >> that's good. yeah. >> that's good. yeah. >> can all they want >> labour can tell all they want about disaster stories, but
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about the disaster stories, but you've been losing to these guys for 13 years straight and they've so much damage that for 13 years straight and they'now so much damage that for 13 years straight and they'now you're,nuch damage that for 13 years straight and they'now you're, you'reiamage that for 13 years straight and they'now you're, you're hoping that only now you're, you're hoping to really a big to win. so it's not really a big compliment them either. no compliment to them either. no i mean, they've been they've been strangely for strangely wrong footed for a number of years. >> obviously brexit. and they >> obviously by brexit. and they just really seemed just haven't really seemed to know base lies at know where their base lies at all. and obviously the massive change that's changed for all social across social democratic parties across the the death of the west is the death of industry, which was their their core was the working . they core base was the working. they were their elected and now they have to have very strange sort have to have a very strange sort of coalition you know, of coalition of, you know, metrosexual toast metrosexual avocado on toast elites and the, you know, the calculation does get that much harder. it's not simply a question of going we support the unions and the right of a of an honest man to earn an honest wage. it's a much more complicated scenario than that. but having said that, i say, but having said that, as i say, you know, the tories are hanging by a thread now. i would think. >> you just don't though. >> you just don't know though. you that's that's you don't know. that's that's the thing. nicholas times the whole thing. nicholas times and the young are adding needless to their needless expense to their avocado toast and iphones with
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this well . this item as well. >> yeah, have to basically >> yeah, they have to basically the . let's read the title the youth. let's read the title young private amid young go private amid frustration nhs care. yeah. frustration at nhs care. yeah. hardly shocking there. the nhs the envy of the world. we are being told. second only to james corden. maybe i don't think anybody envies either of those, but . 4,041% of 18 to 24 year but. 4,041% of 18 to 24 year olds, to according this survey, are even so saving skimp ing on socialising on other , you know, socialising on other, you know, expensive gadgets or whatever to be able to have access to private health care, which which changes which or which shows rather a sea change in attitude compared to its interesting generation. >> i remember i generation. >> i rememberi had generation. >> i remember i had private health care very briefly when i was about 30, i think, and it was about 30, i think, and it was pretty affordable then because you don't get that ill when you're 30, you know, i mean, the reality is health is very function of age, you very much a function of age, you know, mean, you could like know, i mean, if you could like map it across your whole life,
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roughly half of the cost that you incur in the last you create or incur in the last 18 your life, the 18 months of your life, the reality that think private reality is that i think private insurance schemes or private health so on, you health schemes and so on, you can get with can almost get it free with a gym membership. you know, when you're well, you can on an apple watch. >> but, but you're about >> but, but you're right about the because that's the age thing because that's where you with pet where they get you with pet insurance because by time insurance because by the time the needing you know, la the pet is needing you know, la bella injections or whatever, like they want to cover like they don't want to cover it. interesting, though, like they don't want to cover it. scotland, 3, though, like they don't want to cover it. scotland, a though, like they don't want to cover it. scotland, a lotugh, like they don't want to cover it. scotland, a lot of], like they don't want to cover it. scotland, a lot of my and in scotland, a lot of my friends have gone private for their teeth. right. and they because get i think because to try and get i think it's same up and down the it's the same up and down the whole country. but whole of the country. but the waiting in which get an waiting list in which to get an nhs dentist can be really long. >> but it is interesting that at least or ethically least morally or ethically or however they don't however you put it, they don't really a problem with it. really have a problem with it. and think may be the and i think it may be that the stranglehold that the false binary the and the binary between the nhs and the american is starting to american system is starting to lose grip national lose its grip on the national consciousness. you know, the idea if we don't have the idea that if we don't have the nhs , only alternative is an nhs, the only alternative is an american swallows up american system that swallows up 18% causes over 80% of 18% of gdp, causes over 80% of bankruptcies in america , and bankruptcies in america, and medical expenses and so on.
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there are so many other options. there are so many other options. there are so many other slightly nuanced are nuanced options that are available sweden belgium available in sweden and belgium and all of it. maybe we and all the rest of it. maybe we are to the light are starting to see the light times bruce shop lifters times again. bruce shop lifters could immediately into could be immediately put into the village stocks. >> well, repeat shoplifters. so obviously cost of living crisis and people are out nick and butter and all that kind of thing whatever. butter and all that kind of thirand, whatever. butter and all that kind of thirand, you|atever. butter and all that kind of thirand, you know,. well, >> and, you know, fine, well, not fine. >> you know, that's what it is. >> that's what it is, though, right? >> shoplifting has been on the rise over well—armed police forces. focus serious forces. focus more on serious crimes. what i didn't crimes. so this is what i didn't understand. here, repeat understand. it says here, repeat shoplifters could lose their right opt for a trial by jury right to opt for a trial by jury in plans being considered. that would help clear the crown court backlog . yeah, i didn't realise backlog. yeah, i didn't realise as as as a criminal that you were allowed to say how you were to be tried or whatever sort of thing, but you know that are, i'm not saying that shoplifting is right. okay i'm not. but there are many more serious things that i think need court
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attention than someone processing it quickly to clear up the backlog. >> i think that's probably sensible. i think the thing with shoplifting at the moment is it a mix of yes, some people are trying to feed their family and obviously some are always a cry for is also for help. there is also definitely an uptick in it just because people have realised they with it. it's they can get away with it. it's becoming a cultural thing. >> so you're talking about people just taking people that aren't just taking a pot they're taking pot noodle, they're taking a plasma telly. plasma screen telly. >> no, they're i >> well, no, they're taking i mean, some them are still mean, some of them are still taking groceries. lot it is taking groceries. a lot of it is in co—op, but it's not purely because of the of living because of the cost of living crisis. also because there crisis. it is also because there is a recognition once you do it once with it, once and you get away with it, you think, well, why would i pay? pay? >> but pay? >> but this is this is i mean, at the risk of sounding a bit cliche, i blame also the social media this is a trend media because this is a trend also the atlantic in the us. >> and we see all these videos in which these youths in hoodies and masks are encouraged by the whole, know, ideology. whole, you know, covid ideology. yes. storming into these apple stores, stores, stores, other stores, supermarkets gadgets supermarkets get go for gadgets and nothing them. the
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and nothing happens to them. the police, are are police, if there are any, are outnumbered big american chains like target actively discourage their employees from even confronting these people. so there's no consequences for what happened. >> do you remember there was all the looting to do with the blackberry messenger about ten, 15 you remember that? 15 years. do you remember that? and it was a blackberry message . it was all done on blackberry messenger. my messenger. i missed my blackberry . blackberry. >> nicholas, we've got >> well, nicholas, we've got time for one more in this section. labour's mishra rahman thinks braverman thinks suella braverman has an unusual ambition. >> , she has been suella >> well, she has been suella braverman by this labour member of the national executive committee . ms rahman has been committee. ms rahman has been branded as the most racist brown people in britain. i mean, if you allow me, when it comes to racism, the worst form of racism comes from the left and, and i know a thing or two about it. these these people believe that you can have a penis and be a woman, but they have such a hard time believing that somebody can be a bit brown and still love
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the country or god or be against the country or god or be against the borders or whatever . the borders or whatever. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> because i'm italian and iranian. on a good day, i look italian, but even on those days, they're like, oh, you're italian. why do you like italian. so why do you like brexit? don't want free brexit? don't you want free mobility? i'm like, mobility? and i'm like, do you mean so boring useless mean i'm so boring and useless that only set foot on that i could only set foot on these shores? >> don't know if would >> i don't know if you would call it racism, but there is certainly a bigotry is certainly a bigotry that is directed are directed towards people who are perceived been perceived to have been a traitor. they pigeonhole you because that's classic racism. >> you, are brown >> they say you, you are brown or parents were brown or or your parents were brown or immigrants. definition and immigrants. so by definition and automatically should automatically you should be in our so you are not allowed our camp. so you are not allowed to have your own opinion. i mean, is racist than that? >> there is also a ridiculous tendency, home secretaries, particularly . i mean, i've particularly. i mean, i've always every single tory always said every single tory conference for as long i can conference for as long as i can remember, has shown a sickening lurch to the right, according to the newspapers the left. and the newspapers and the left. and every is every single home secretary is much the last one. much worse than the last one. you know, priti patel was regarded as being again a traitor and also traitor to her race and also like a, you know, devil in heels
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. theresa may was. they've all they've like there's just they've just like there's just been tory been a long sequence of tory home secretaries who are all regarded being satanic. regarded as being satanic. >> i think. i think why people are angry at suella is because she claims that multiple culturalism doesn't work . culturalism doesn't work. although she's a very successful product of it. i think so. i think with some people she's a product of multi ethnicity rather than multi because she is she is part of the monoculture. >> how define multiculturalism. >> unfortunately, over multiculturalism. >> time tunately, over multiculturalism. >> time and tely, over multiculturalism. >> time and telycannot over multiculturalism. >> time and telycannot explore our time and we cannot explore this as i'd like to, but this as much as i'd like to, but we are at the halfway point after the interval. have after the interval. we have self—confessed dinosaurs. nobel prize winning economist and disappointed very disappointed brexiteers very much like the gb news foyer. we'll
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john cleese struggling to get guests on his new out of touch news show ahead of the debut of his new show that is being produced by andrew doyle. i'm john cleese has revealed that he's struggling to get guests. well, he never asked me so that's completely he's not struggled present tense because it's recorded , hasn't it? it's been recorded, hasn't it? >> and that's why didn't >> and that's why i didn't understand some guests. understand some great guests. i think maybe made some think maybe he made some flippant about how hard flippant remark about how hard it to get interesting people it was to get interesting people , them. , but he got them. >> the unfortunate thing >> i think the unfortunate thing with dame john, if i may, is his mouth run away himself mouth does run away with himself sometimes. so i think he probably himself. probably got himself. >> got some good copy just >> they got some good copy just by him literally when he by taking him literally when he was mischievous. his was being mischievous. but his thing saying that it's out thing about saying that it's out of his joke , isn't of touch is his own joke, isn't it? that's his at it? that's his joke at his expense. i think. it? that's his joke at his eprnd. i think. it? that's his joke at his eprnd this1ink. it? that's his joke at his eprnd this is k. it? that's his joke at his eprnd this is the show it's >> and this is the show it's called dinosaurs, isn't it? yes. yes yes, exactly. the dinosaur era. >> he's celebrating it. well, it's be on gb news. it's going to be on gb news. when it start? by the 29th when does it start? by the 29th of october 29th. you can judge for yourself, nicholas of october 29th. you can judge for yoursel now,holas of october 29th. you can judge for yoursel now, i)las of october 29th. you can judge for yourselnow, i must it telegraph. now, i must say, it sounds easier than i thought to
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get nobel prize. get a nobel prize. >> well, a nobel prize, you know, the prize that know, the same prize that went to arafat and barack to yasser arafat and barack obama. that's true. doing well? nothing. well, this is this one, though, is a bit more prestigious because this is an economy nobel prize awarded to gender pay gap economist and when i first read the title, i thought, okay, so now we are propagating, propagating this myth of gender pay gap , which myth of gender pay gap, which doesn't exist, but to be fair, claudia goldin, who is a professor of harvard, studied gender pay gap or women at work for decades. she has some fair points indeed. she says it's not the fault of the so called sexist bosses that some women earn less because they were, you know, having child caring duty. now, here it says she found the main factor holding women's earnings is caring for children. i don't know if the wording is hers or the telegraph's. i don't agree with the wording because it's not a know, it's not it's not a you know, it's not holding you back if you care for your children. but it's i mean, just the objective speaking in terms your earnings, terms
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terms of your earnings, in terms of your whole life, the balance and what you put into it, and what have you put into it, it's a choice. >> you hopefully you make for yourself. it does seem to be. it's interesting, isn't yourself. it does seem to be. it'swe've interesting, isn't yourself. it does seem to be. it'swe've probablyig, isn't yourself. it does seem to be. it'swe've probably covered it? we've probably covered before that in countries which it? we've probably covered befonthe at in countries which it? we've probably covered befonthe at in couigenderhich it? we've probably covered befonthe at in couigender freedom have the greatest gender freedom where do whatever where people can do whatever they regardless of their they want regardless of their sex. women up taking sex. more women end up taking more off to have children, more time off to have children, ironically, know. yeah. and ironically, you know. yeah. and you know, it's but obviously if you've got a 30 year career from which to get from starting out to the board level position , to the board level position, it's going to be harder than if you've got a 40 year career. i guess you know? >> yeah, because all other things women have been sold this, this lie or this myth that toiling in a know, gloomy, toiling in a you know, gloomy, bleak corporate job rather than caring for your children, that is freedom , right? is freedom, right? >> and then they reach 40 and they realise that, you know, they realise that, you know, they not happy. they are not happy. >> my wife done it all. >> and my wife has done it all. she's it both. and she's had it both. and she's absolutely exhausted. i don't know. what do you think? >> good for her. >> good for her. >> the thing the thing that amazed was that the prize amazed me was that the prize money is £820,000, is 11
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money is £820,000, which is 11 million kronor. money is £820,000, which is 11 million kronor . so she'd million swedish kronor. so she'd be a millionaire she went to be a millionaire if she went to sweden. yes. >> think an economist >> you think as an economist you'd realise that i was a millionaire in italy before euro was easy? i think it's quite nice to give it. it's technically. i seem to remember. sure, i remember reading this somewhere. it's actually somewhere. it's not actually a nobel nobel. it's nobel prize. it's nobel. it's nobel prize. it's nobel. it's nobel not one nobel sponsor, but it's not one of original prizes. it of the original prizes. it doesn't really matter. but i think of all prizes that you think of all the prizes that you get like a lot them are for get like a lot of them are for for, like physics, you know, the discovery of some particle or the proof of the gravity waves or whatever. i can't imagine the physics ones, know, using physics ones, you know, using that money very what would they do with it? you know , there's do with it? you know, there's the literature, of course , which the literature, of course, which which is famously always said, that's throwing a lifeboat to a man who's who's made it to the shore. you know, by the time you get nobel prize, no get the nobel prize, you no longer it. and then peace, longer need it. and then peace, which need private which is if you need private health you do. yes, that's health care, you do. yes, that's true. but economist, true. but an economist, i imagine she's probably, you know, got quite know, she's probably got quite a lot ideas about what she can lot of ideas about what she can do that. we could look do with that. we could look fonnard interesting
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fonnard to some interesting possibly some sort of think tank. to tank. anyway, bruce, to according independent, sunak tank. anyway, bruce, to accc been independent, sunak tank. anyway, bruce, to accc been greenlighting ent, sunak has been greenlighting transphobia, is surely transphobia, which is surely netflix's labours. >> dame angela eagle accused the prime minister of gaslighting the country by claiming he was being bullied over trans gender gaslighting or greenlighting gaslighting or greenlighting gaslighting gaslighting emphasis on gas, not green but greenhouse gases. on gas, not green but greenhouse gases . that's gases and lights. gases. that's gases and lights. ehm conservative are on the romans and sections of the press have in inverted commas, given the green light for transgender people to be attacked on the streets . and this these are the streets. and this these are the words of dame angela eagle also people are claiming that this speech he did was similar to the thatcher speech , which back in thatcher speech, which back in the 80s where i think she said something about, she found it alarming . something about, she found it alarming. i'm something about, she found it alarming . i'm paraphrasing here alarming. i'm paraphrasing here that children felt they had the inalienable right in which to be 93v- inalienable right in which to be gay. so there are parallels that are being drawn , you know, about are being drawn, you know, about how homophobia and his alleged transphobia . transphobia. >> i mean, it has been an attempt to paint them in the
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same light, hasn't it? i'm not sure they are quite the same, but it does feel like this is the end of the road for that whole movement to some extent. i mean, there's a sense that the gay liberation trans gay and lesbian liberation was a very significant moment in my lifetime. you know, the change of opinion , the degree to which of opinion, the degree to which the public has embraced gay marriage now and so on, it was all just such a wonderful , all just such a wonderful, extraordinary triumph. and now this just feels somebody this just feels like somebody just trying to kind keep that just trying to kind of keep that that sense that they're fighting a tyranny alive . is it? a tyranny alive. is it? >> it's like you wonder. >> yeah, it's like you wonder. it's like feminism . you reached it's like feminism. you reached equality. just just enjoy it. you know what this reminded me of? you know, that famous or infamous interview with dr. jordan peterson and kathy griffin of channel 4? yes right. which became a masterclass in how to deal with an interviewer . kathy newman, i beg your pardon, became a masterclass in how to deal with an interviewer who is in bad faith. but now it we still have this meme that
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makes the rounds on social media where, where, where dr. jordan peterson says, well, today i had egg and bacon for breakfast and kathy newman says, so you mean that we should kill all the vegans ? so here what you're vegans? so here what you're saying, rishi sunak yeah, so what you're saying is we should kill all the vegans here. rishi sunaki kill all the vegans here. rishi sunak i simply said, do not bully us into believing that a man can be a woman or the other way around. and they are saying so we should beat up so you mean we should beat up all people on the road provocation? yes. it's interesting, >> yes. it's interesting, isn't it? amounts to a it? what amounts to a provocation and what doesn't, you know, in different circumstances. that circumstances. but i think that one stretch, this staying one is a stretch, this staying with independent. now, with the independent. now, nicholas, found nicholas, a poll has found exactly supposed to exactly what it was supposed to find. just 9% of find. i imagine just 9% of british voters think brexit has gone well. >> poll finds. you know, nowadays, if you look at it, i mean, look at south africa. can we say the end of apartheid had gone wrong because south africa is such poor and dangerous is such a poor and dangerous place it's been years since place and it's been years since it happened for brexit. you know , we had a government, somebody did say that didn't
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they? >> and got into quite lot of >> and got into quite a lot of trouble, believe. buti trouble, i believe. but i can imagine. >> shall we recapture the >> can we shall we recapture the colonies? because these colonies? because many of these colonies? because many of these colonies are struggling, you know, calling france to save know, calling for france to save them the point is, we them anyway, the point is, we had three years of negotiations with the government that, you know, funnily enough, was led by, by theresa may, who was against brexit in the first place. yes, go figure. and then we had covid. had lockdowns. we had covid. we had lockdowns. and doing better in and still we are doing better in terms of inflation and other other some the other factors than some of the european partners . and these european partners. and these people, even nowadays, harry maguire manchester maguire opens manchester united's they blame united's own goal. they blame brexit and that is absolutely a trope that i've recognised or i think also people are just sort of feeling it disappearing in the rear view mirror a little bit. >> now are they not, what with brexit? yeah, i think it is still raw . still raw. >> i think the one point i would like to make is that you get proper duty free in the airport now, right? and that's one of the brexit benefits because i brought back a lot of cheap gin from spain. >> that's a marvellous
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observation. i think might observation. i think that might have final one for this have swung it final one for this story hour, parenting story for this hour, parenting news. this is in news. bruce. yes and this is in the times and a bond with the times and a close bond with parents a young produces parents at a young age produces kind teenagers . kind of teenagers. >> and basically what this article saying, policies that >> and basically what this articleparents1g, policies that >> and basically what this articleparents to policies that >> and basically what this articleparents to spendes that >> and basically what this articleparents to spend moret >> and basically what this articleparents to spend more time allow parents to spend more time with their children could create a generation mentally a generation of more mentally resilient and pro—social teenagers, children who enjoy a close, loving bond with their parents at pre—school age are more likely to grow into kind, helpful, generous and empathetic teenagers , a study has found. teenagers, a study has found. who knew ? who knew? >> well, the only thing i would say is having had two children, you know , it's a two way street. you know, it's a two way street. it's for the kids to show a little bit of affection and kindness as well towards the parents. them have night's parents. let them have a night's sleep occasionally. then they'll get the morning. you get some in the morning. you know, they have know, i think they have to remember i you what i remember that i tell you what i mean. i'm being tongue in cheek, obviously, but there is a there is a of to that. and is a grain of truth to that. and i do think it is possible to guilt trip some parents who are really struggling it in really struggling to find it in themselves, to be kind and warm
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and affectionate and snuggly and affectionate when difficult. you when a child is difficult. you have also just the have to also just give the parents of slack parents a little bit of slack and go, you know what? it's and just go, you know what? it's tough sometimes and you to tough sometimes and you have to knuckle just knuckle down and just get through and beat through this and don't beat yourself up. if when they're 12, yourself up. if when they're 12, you you feel a little you know, you feel it's a little bit distant. you did that to yourself. just yourself. sometimes that's just the luck of the draw. well poor parents have to two jobs parents also have to do two jobs and barely make it. and still barely make it. >> also economy? >> so that's also the economy? >> so that's also the economy? >> so i blame brexit. >> i think so i blame brexit. well, one more section to go after the break. 50 cent in wales health cricket, wales mental health in cricket, vagina's museum. all
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in the football club referring to his one of his most successful albums or singles in that club . sorry, i don't have that club. sorry, i don't have a lot of street cred, but rapper 50 cent makes surprising move to sponsor welsh under 14 girl team with his brand g—unit as he follows wrexham owners ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney lead so we know wrexham is a welsh football club. yes, has been owned by these two hollywood star ryan stars ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney have changed the fortunes of the club. there is a documentary on us tv about they played the us women's team as a result. exactly. and hammered them not not a good moment for women's football. but let's not go there. so leave it to the uk is hoping to sort of offset that kind of propaganda disaster. well, basically this happened apparently by by chance one of these girls dads had been one of these girls dads had been on tour, worked on tour with on a tour, worked on a tour with $0.50 and other dads, jokingly
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said how sponsorship? said, how about a sponsorship? and went they went to him, and they went they went to him, were a bit cheeky. and he said, yes, well, you know, it never hurts to ask, does it, bruce? >> no, no. and if you've got an uncle fiddy, then go for it. yeah. >> with what i imagine >> sticking with what i imagine is incomprehensible sporting >> sticking with what i imagine is incwforjrehensible sporting >> sticking with what i imagine is incwfor you, nsible sporting >> sticking with what i imagine is incwfor you, bruce, sporting >> sticking with what i imagine is incwfor you, bruce, the)rting >> sticking with what i imagine is incwfor you, bruce, the cricket news for you, bruce, the cricket and mental health connection. this is well within your comfort zone. >> absolutely. i you know, i do laugh at the way the stories are divided up, particularly with the one i will be ending no the one i will be ending on. no spoilers. cricket can spoilers. yes so cricket can lead poor mental health. lead to poor mental health. speaking the cheltenham speaking at the cheltenham literature burley literature festival, mike burley , the former england captain, says the sport brings a roller coaster of emotions . as i just coaster of emotions. as i just thought it was boring and that's why were depressed. why they were depressed. >> think it's roller >> i don't think it's a roller coaster, i must admit it does. that a bit. it's not that feels a bit. it's not really is it? really that exciting, is it? it's a long, slow grind. >> i don't think it is. it just >> i don't think it is. itjust seems to be a of running and seems to be a lot of running and batting and all that kind of stuff, you know, like waitrose on afternoon. mike on a saturday afternoon. mike bailey form bailey also said that short form cricket the biggest threat to cricket is the biggest threat to the, cricket risks
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the, to the sport. cricket risks damaging players mental health because dramatic or because loss is more dramatic or drastic . drastic. >> i think the thing it means is and i do understand this a tiny bit, i've had some i don't play cricket, but i've had some experience this experience with things like this where get all hyped up for where you get all hyped up for your out there your innings, you go out there and bowled out in the and you're bowled out in the first ball or something. there is extraordinary like like is an extraordinary be like like a opens up in your heart a vacuum opens up in your heart at that moment. you're just at that moment. you're now just going sitting on a bench going to be sitting on a bench for next day and a half. and for the next day and a half. and you were hoping a you were hoping to make a contribution. i don't think, though, honest, that that though, to be honest, that that is cricketers experienced is why cricketers experienced mental mean, mental health problems. i mean, i usually of i think they're usually kind of there's there, there there's a seed there, but there have few and they've left have been a few and they've left tours and so on. i think it's something to do with the culture in matches to be in between the matches to be right, ben stokes, who's right, because ben stokes, who's the current, he's the the current, i think he's the current captain. >> he has spoken publicly that he's having to take medication to anxiety. yeah but to deal with anxiety. yeah but then 50% of teenagers then so like 50% of teenagers doing you know, doing a—levels, you know, i think everyone's the sympathy is just out the tv just reeking out of the tv luxury news now in luxury guilt news now in the mail, and have to mail, nicholas and i have to say, you're staying in a
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say, if you're staying in a hilton hotel, you're probably already over your carbon already over your daily carbon budget, aren't you? >> yeah. it >> i suppose so, yeah. it depends you got there. so in depends how you got there. so in an exclusive the daily an exclusive story, the daily mail that hilton adds mail reports that hilton adds carbon to its to carbon ratings to its menus to encourage customers to choose more environmentally friendly meals. the chefs meals. i just think the chefs have gone lazy. they just want to boil celery or whatever. heston blumenthal is doing. what next? are they going to ban mail order brides or long distance relationships or put your carbon footprint if you want to minimise your carbon footprint, you you should be you know you should not be staying hilton hotel. staying in a hilton hotel. >> are much more energy >> there are much more energy efficient could efficient places that you could park rump overnight. that's park your rump overnight. that's the you be the main thing you should be thinking about. >> considering as well that kathy daughter, paris , kathy hilton's daughter, paris, she the world she flew around the world constantly many sort constantly for many years sort of thing. kathy is a real of thing. and kathy is a real housewife and they're always in private so it's a bit private planes. so it's a bit like really, you know what i mean? >> i suppose if they think their customers want this, that's another the another matter. but like the wealthy love to be have wealthy just love to be have some of tiny signal some kind of tiny little signal they can make to not just think i >> -- >> it's just another thing
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because i don't think it would put anyone off. it's like, have you flown america? you've flown america, you're not bothered. america, so you're not bothered. and every time i mean, and also, every time i mean, i've in hotel in i've seen the menus in hotel in in the room thing. in the room service thing. >> they have a little symbol for what might be in it, like v's and peas for fish and stuff. then you have all the calorie count. the first couple of times you see this, you can't do. that's interesting. after a while you just carry on while you just have carry on having whatever bounces off the sides, it? having whatever bounces off the sid( it's it? having whatever bounces off the sid(|t's more it? having whatever bounces off the sid(|t's more even more pressure >> it's more even more pressure on first dates, right? >> you have look at the price >> you have to look at the price and look at the calorie intake. well, sort of carbon footprint. and look at the calorie intake. we|areort of carbon footprint. and look at the calorie intake. we|are youf carbon footprint. and look at the calorie intake. we|are you thinking footprint. and look at the calorie intake. we|are you thinking ofntprint. and look at the calorie intake. we|are you thinking of darling, >> are you thinking of darling, you to be judged by you don't want to be judged by the lady is maybe a vegan or the lady who is maybe a vegan or something. anyway of something. anyway talking of things the sides, things bouncing off the sides, the museum is the london vagina museum is reopened. >> realise there >> bruce i didn't realise there was i didn't it was one and i didn't realise it had yes. london's had closed. so yes. london's vagina museum is to reopen after surpassing a fundraising goal vagina museum is to reopen after surpthis1g a fundraising goal vagina museum is to reopen after surpthis is a fundraising goal vagina museum is to reopen after surpthis is the|ndraising goal vagina museum is to reopen after surpthis is the world'sig goal vagina museum is to reopen after surpthis is the world's first al and this is the world's first museum devoted to the female organ . moves bigger organ. it moves to bigger premises after more than 200 , premises after more than 200, 2500 people have donated . and 2500 people have donated. and this is in poyser street in
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bethnal green right. and it opens on the 4th of november. however the it's only going to be open on the first floor because there's something wrong with the lift. so you can only go and work out if you're telling me a joke now. >> no, no, no, no, no, no, no. it's in the article. >> yeah. don't try and find the clitoris exhibition. >> well, exactly. but you can't go in the lift. >> it might be something there. yeah >> so as well as having an exhibition, the museum is going to cafe. right. to also house a cafe. right. it's nice. >> that's carbon footprint. >> that's a carbon footprint. >> that's a carbon footprint. >> well, exactly. and we'll host events performances, >> well, exactly. and we'll host events comedynances, >> well, exactly. and we'll host events comedy and:es, >> well, exactly. and we'll host events comedy and workshops. including comedy and workshops. >> think comedy . >> i would think mainly comedy. i that would the i would think that would be the obvious thing, wouldn't it, really? >> but then wondering if the workshop remember workshop because i remember edina she a edina and abfab, she did a workshop for her privates to get in feminine self. in touch with her feminine self. so don't know if there's lot so i don't know if there's a lot of that going on. for of that going on. i'm for it. >> was was the vagina >> was there was the vagina monologues was a touring monologues that was a touring show for many years. yes, it must have come to an end now, but yes. but that was huge. yes. >> i remember seeing gail porter, kaye adams >> i remember seeing gail port michelle kaye adams >> i remember seeing gail port michelle mcmanus. ye adams >> i remember seeing gail port michelle mcmanus. wow.ams and michelle mcmanus. wow.
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>> got three of them lodged. >> yes. there you go. >> yes. there you go. >> you. >> you. >> yeah, i know which is odd for a of my persuasion. a gentleman of my persuasion. >> there is something about bethnal attracts bethnal green that attracts these think the museum these quirky, i think the museum of comedy might be in bethnal green actually there's green as well. actually there's a these. and the museum a few of these. and the museum of there, which of childhood is there, which i would is not an ideal would imagine is not an ideal double for family day out with would imagine is not an ideal douvagina family day out with would imagine is not an ideal douvagina museum. lay out with the vagina museum. >> not family day out. >> maybe not family day out. when was a young student, i when i was a young student, i went the sex museum in went to the sex museum in amsterdam friend of mine amsterdam with a friend of mine and her parents showed and suddenly her parents showed up. of her up. and then one of her professors showed up. so if you go to this museum in bethnal green, just make quick. you green, just make it quick. you don't going to show don't know who's going to show up same time. up at the same time. >> mean, part of me wants >> i mean, the part of me wants to just how many exhibits to say just how many exhibits can there be? but, you know, i suppose explore suppose if they explore everything connected with the whole be, you whole thing that would be, you know, quite a few. know, that was quite a few. there is there was the illustration in the guardian is of of glamorous lady like of a sort of glamorous lady like a glitter tampon. right? did you see that? >> do they're trying >> do you know they're trying to get glitter. oh are they? get rid of glitter. oh are they? yeah. it's something get rid of glitter. oh are they? ye do it's something get rid of glitter. oh are they? ye do with it's something get rid of glitter. oh are they? ye do with germany. something get rid of glitter. oh are they? ye do with germany. they'reiing to do with germany. they're trying or whatever
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trying to outlaw it or whatever because not a bio because it's not a bio degradable part of tampon degradable as part of a tampon or generally? >> no, no, just generally. >> no, no, just generally. >> so, know, >> generally. so, you know, i feel people going to feel sorry for people going to kylie minogue concerts because that's that's the big finish. >> two little girls, >> i have two little girls, i'm all eliminating glitter all for eliminating glitter because mess really. >> absolutely. gets everywhere. so to finish off so guardian to finish off i suspect this will be suspect bruce this will be something we always encounter 1 or 2 of these oh, we got to do. so we got a different one. have i got it wrong? is it the. the underground city? >> oh, yeah. sorry. >> oh, yeah. sorry. >> it's the underground city. i'm mistake. i'm sorry. my mistake. >> you want to go or shall i? >> you want to go or shall i? >> no, no. i've just done >> no, no, no. i've just done the i'm tired. the vagina's. i'm tired. >> enough. and you did it >> fair enough. and you did it quite thoroughly. thank you. >> tempting >> very tempting little underground we underground city. but we have 20s now. >> most advanced >> okay, so most advanced underground city is in in underground city is in turkey in the province amazing. the province of konya. amazing. but can't go there but if you can't go there in london, to going open london, they're to going open the underground quite the blitz underground quite soon, and it's going to be a tourist attraction. >> nice. i have been to the >> oh, nice. i have been to the edinburgh dungeon. you've been >> oh, nice. i have been to the edthere?1 dungeon. you've been in there? >> been a dungeon . yes. yes. >> oh, yes , a dungeon. anyway
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>> oh, yes, a dungeon. anyway i quite like the look of this underground place in turkey. i would like to go and live in somewhere like that. a series of. i always felt the hobbit in me is aiming to come out. this is how i'm going to retire. right that's enough for the evening. have just time to evening. we have just time to have tuesday's have a quick look at tuesday's front one last the front pages. one last time, the daily mail. will kill daily mail. hamas will kill a hostage for each israeli attack. an and bad demonstrations outside the israeli embassy in london. the guardian israel declares siege of gaza as hamas threatens captives. the financial times. threatens captives. the financial times . israel armed financial times. israel armed forces complete siege of gaza. the telegraph . israel no choice the telegraph. israel no choice but to seize gaza. the hamas threat to execute hostages. as israel prepares a ground invasion, the star the thin edge of the veg. heston blumenthal's expensive veg. those were your front pages . that's all we have front pages. that's all we have time for. thank you to my guest, nicholas de santo and bruce devlin. i will be back here tomorrow, same time with josh howie and paul thank
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>> well, it's just coming up to 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is tonight . 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is tonight. israel has 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is tonight . israel has launched 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is tonight. israel has launched a full siege of gaza in retaliation to hamas's attack against the country that's claimed the lives of 900 israelis. so far and at least ten britons, two. so why do some on the left find it so hard to condemn the terror group? jewish journalist nicole lampert joins me shortly . also coming up, me shortly. also coming up, shadow chancellor rachel reeves has pledged to rebuild britain dunng has pledged to rebuild britain during her speech to labour party conference. >> i must tell you , you cannot >> i must tell you, you cannot tax and spend your way to economic growth , but can we
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economic growth, but can we really trust starmer and reeves with the country's purse strings ? >> i'll explain. explain why britain cannot afford a labour government. that's in my big opinion next. then i'll get reaction from my panel tonight . reaction from my panel tonight. carole malone, benjamin buttennorth and belinda de lucy. plus labour's david lammy says he wants to date the eu and rebuild the relationship after a bitter divorce. is this proof that keir starmer will spend five years undoing brexit? i'll be asking the leader of reform uk live in the studio richard tice . and amid reports prince tice. and amid reports prince andrew's a lost soul and fergie is trying to land a tv deal to keep him afloat. should king charles forgive his brother and bnng charles forgive his brother and bring him back into the royal fold? lady victoria harvey and ingnd fold? lady victoria harvey and ingrid seward go head to head in the clash . as always, you'll get the clash. as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages and kelvin mackenzie is uncancelled. later in the show , a blockbuster, two in the show, a blockbuster, two hours to come. first the news
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and polly middlehurst. east >> mark, thank you. well, the top story tonight is that the israeli prime minister has been speaking this evening and he said the airstrikes in gaza are just the beginning. speaking a short time ago, benjamin netanyahu compared the hamas atrocities of the weekend as being on par with isis. and earlier, hamas threatened to kill hostages if israel continued retaliating without warning. more than 900 people have been killed so far in israel and over 550in gaza since the first attack at the weekend. israel today ordered a complete siege on gaza, wanting to cut off food, power and fuel to the palestinian territory. but in a significant expansion to the conflict , significant expansion to the conflict, hezbollah, islamists in lebanon, to the north of israel have fired a salvo of rockets in what they describe as revenge attacks after they said israel killed four of their
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