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to performance that failed to shine. then i'll get reaction from my top pundits this evening. esther mcvey, dead , evening. esther mcvey, dead, rick lord and rebecca reid. plus can keir starmer do a reverse bojo by smashing the blue wall of tory voters? i'll be asking a man who's been on both sides of the aisle, tory deputy chairman lee anderson, plus gb news political correspondent olivia utley will join me live from liverpool to offer her verdict on a critical day for labour. all so on the way, the israel—hamas war continues to rage as the death toll passes. 1700 people. but do the crowds celebrating hamas terror, which reportedly includes now the murder of babies , prove that murder of babies, prove that suella braverman was right to say multiculturalism has failed in this country? nina myskow and emma webb debate that in the clash. also as the new big brother housemates go woke by announcing their pronouns on the show. >> can we just double check
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pronouns so nobody gets offended? >> hayley, what did he say? >> hayley, what did he say? >> she her fabulous. >> she her fabulous. >> anyone? what's your pronouns? >> anyone? what's your pronouns? >> she. her >> she. her >> do you want to know my pronouns? mind your own business. so is gender madness here to stay? i'll be asking . no here to stay? i'll be asking. no nonsense gb news superstar nana akua . as always, you'll get akua. as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper. front pages, and we will discuss holly willoughby's bombshell exit from this morning . after 14 years. so a big two hours coming up. glitter everywhere. and my verdict on starmer in just two minutes time. you won't want to miss it. first, here's the news. and polly middlehurst. >> well, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story tonight from the gp newsroom is that the us president has condemned the attacks by hamas on israel while vowing to have israel is back. joe biden was speaking about an hour ago at the white house and
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the hamas terrorist group has been firing missiles throughout the day at israel earlier warning residents in the southern israeli city of ashkelon to leave their homes. israel's anti—missile system, israel's anti —missile system, the israel's anti—missile system, the iron dome system, used to intercept many of that incoming rocket fire. joe biden says hamas is attack is an act of sheer evil. this attack is brought to the surface. >> painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of anti—semitism and genocide of the jewish people . so in this the jewish people. so in this moment , we the jewish people. so in this moment, we must be the jewish people. so in this moment , we must be crystal moment, we must be crystal clear. we stand with israel . we clear. we stand with israel. we stand with israel , and we will stand with israel, and we will make sure israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens and defend itself and respond to this attack . respond to this attack. >> meanwhile, israeli soldiers have been clearing the gaza kibbutz . that's in one of the
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kibbutz. that's in one of the hardest hit areas of the hamas attack today . they as idf attack today. they as idf soldiers went through that camp. they discovered men, women and children believed to have been killed at the kibbutz. israeli soldiers given the task of retrieving those bodies after hamas had breached the border from gaza into the kibbutz as well. gb news reporter charlie peters is based in tel aviv at the moment. he spoke to one survivor who'd been hiding at a kibbutz in the south. one of the hardest hit areas of the hamas attacks . attacks. >> do you see anything in the street when you drove through? >> did you see bodies and. >> did you see bodies and. >> yeah , mostly bodies. some of >> yeah, mostly bodies. some of them were burned . and so we them were burned. and so we didn't recognise people . some of didn't recognise people. some of them were terrorist bodies . them were terrorist bodies. later on, i found out that i have a few of my friends in the party in the rave that was raging at that morning. some of them were kidnapped. some of them were kidnapped. some of
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them were kidnapped. some of them were raped and taken under hostage to the gaza strip . it hostage to the gaza strip. it was really very horrible . was really very horrible. >> danielle biton , a kibbutz >> danielle biton, a kibbutz survivor, speaking there . now, survivor, speaking there. now, in other news today, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has promised a decade of national renewal if his party is elected at the next general election. addressing the labour party conference today in liverpool , conference today in liverpool, he pledged to build a better britain and announced plans to create new towns and build more homes . he also focussed on the homes. he also focussed on the uk's economic growth as he laid out labour's plans for britain's future . and just lastly, the future. and just lastly, the news from the entertainment world that tv presenter holly willoughby has announced she's quitting itv's this morning show after 14 years on the programme in an instagram post today, she said it had been an honourjust to be part of its story and she had made the decision for herself and her family just last
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week, a shopping centre security guard has been charged and remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill her on tv online dab+ radio and the tune—in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel . news, britain's news channel. >> so sir keir starmer addressed labour party conference today . labour party conference today. that's an hour of my life that i won't get back. i'm just glad i wasn't driving or operating heavy machinery at the time. the only exciting thing that happened was when he was attacked with glitter by a protester campaigning for electoral reform. thank you. probably . true democracy is probably. true democracy is citizen led politics needs an update. >> we demand a people's house. >> we demand a people's house. >> we demand the people's house. we are in crisis . we are in we are in crisis. we are in crisis. i hope future is in
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jeopardy . jeopardy. >> what a numpty . well, to be >> what a numpty. well, to be fair, starmer handled the interruption very well , but it interruption very well, but it was downhill from there. the speech was big on rhetoric, but the content was thinner than an after eight mint. he took 57 minutes to say nothing . when he minutes to say nothing. when he did get into detail, it was enough to make you run for the hills. starmer's bold idea is a 19705 hills. starmer's bold idea is a 1970s style state sponsored business called great british energy, a great british waste of time gambling, taxpayer billions on flaky renewables which, as germany has demonstrated over the last ten years, has been a resounding failure. germany are now reopening coal mines . such now reopening coal mines. such is their desperation for energy for the government to bet the house on green renewables is a move so reckless it would have crooked banker bernard madoff blushing. don't take my word for it. a recent government auction of wind farm licences saw no takers from the private sector. they're not stupid . and just as they're not stupid. and just as rishi sunak announced , he's
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rishi sunak announced, he's a sensible slowdown on net zero, starmer promises to speed ahead, which is a car crash in slow motion for the country. he spent the whole afternoon banging on about working people. i wonder what working people make of the need to buy an electric car in 2030. not 2035. having to find god knows how much for money a heat pump boiler, an extra bills of up to £15,000 per household to hit this unrealistic goal . to hit this unrealistic goal. while there was no mention of stifling political correctness and the rise of woke last week, rishi sunak said on stage , a man rishi sunak said on stage, a man is a man and a woman is a woman. that's just common sense . well, that's just common sense. well, sir keir starmer didn't have the balls to say the same today, and there was no mention of how they will tackle the eye—watering debt and the ongoing panic levels public spending . it's levels of public spending. it's obvious the moment they get into power. the trade unions who bankroll all the party will expect pay rises for everyone pushing up prices. there were
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some good bits in there. the nhs focusing on prevention of illness rather than treatment of it. technical colleges to skill up the next generation iron and the construction of 1.5 million homes building on brown and greenfield sites . the problem is greenfield sites. the problem is there was no timeline for those 1.5 million homes. pop star heartthrob harry styles will probably be drawing his state pension before it happens as and his bold plan for housing ignores the elephant in the room. current levels of both illegal and legal net migration, whether right or wrong, with 600,000 people entering the country legally last year . and country legally last year. and of course that will continue then these 1.5 million houses won't even touch the sides. meanwhile, stopping the boats doesn't even make it onto his top five list of missions. or get a mention in the speech. but we know what he thinks on this issue because he said it on sunday morning. he said he will axe the rwanda plan even if it's
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working at the end of an overlong speech in which my hurt for all the wrong reasons. he said he wanted to be in power for ten years. well on the strength of this, ten minutes would be too much. so keir has today once again shown us that all that glitters is not gold . all that glitters is not gold. well done to you, chris. in our props department for the glitter . okay, let's head straight over to liverpool now and get reaction to what's happening up at labour party conference and olivia utterly . olivia, what is olivia utterly. olivia, what is the mood at labour party conference and the feedback in regards to keir starmers speech ? >> hello mark. well, i have to say there was a lot of energy in that room today . it was a far that room today. it was a far cry from rishi sunak speech last week. the room was absolutely packed to the rafters. keir starmer received 17 standing ovation over the course of his hour long speech. it very much
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seems as though he has won over the labour faithful. the question , though, is has he won question, though, is has he won over the wider british public? savanta poll of 2000 people, which was published shortly after the end of keir starmers speech, revealed that the word that most people use to describe the labour leader was a dull or bonng. the labour leader was a dull or boring . so it could be that keir boring. so it could be that keir starmer has the faithful, which is one step along the way. but doesn't yet have the wider public. as for the substance of the speech, there wasn't much new in it. well we weren't really expecting anything new and he really doubled down on a message that he's been giving out a lot over the past few weeks and months, which is essentially that labour is here to fix the messes that the conservatives have made over the last years. to many last 13 years. well, to many that might seem like quite a compelling proposition. rachel reeves the shadow chancellor, said her speech yesterday , said in her speech yesterday, hey, what's better for your family than it was 13 years ago when the tories took office? and i think for a lot of people,
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that message will really resonate. what has improved in the of tory rule . but the 13 years of tory rule. but if keir starmer is trying to base his entire election pitch on essentially not being the conservatives on being a sort of more competent version of the tories of doing everything that the tories would like to do, i.e. lower taxes , reform the i.e. lower taxes, reform the nhs, build more houses, etcetera. all of these tory messages, but just try and achieve them in a more competent fashion than the tories have done before. then it could be that labour's appeal is very broad but not very deep. and if the tories do manage to get their act together in the next 12 months or so, it could be that keir starmer's popularity, which i have to say did seem pretty impressive today. turns out to run dry very quickly indeed. it will be really, really interesting to see what the next few months have to offer. >> olivia utley we'll catch up again soon. thank you so much for us. get forjoining us. let's get reaction from former cabinet reaction now from former cabinet minister and gb news star esther mcvey. mp banker and visiting
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professor no less, derek lord and author and journalist rebecca reid . derek, did that rebecca reid. derek, did that speech move the dial for labour today? it probably did, and it's probably not what viewers and listeners want to hear . listeners want to hear. >> but i think the thing that's really significant about it is probably three fold. >> first is that he has definitely moved the labour party to the right . party to the right. >> the second is that he's adopting tory language , talking adopting tory language, talking about aspiration, talking about home ownership , ep and so on. home ownership, ep and so on. >> traditional tory grounds . >> traditional tory grounds. >> traditional tory grounds. >> and the third is that he's actually got discipline in his own party, something that's strikingly obviously not happening within the conservative party. >> what do you think, rebecca? were you impressed by that speech? was it a game changer because it needed to be i mean, it was comforting. >> an audience because >> i'm an easy audience because i just want him not i just i just want him to not screw it up. but i think. >> was it a cup of horlicks today? >> it was just yeah, it was like
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a big not a pint of stella. no. like a big glass of wine because, you know who needs horlicks life? but i was what horlicks in life? but i was what i comforted most by was that i was comforted most by was that if i think about members of my family always tory, family who've always voted tory, but fed up, but who are really fed up, i could them perhaps being could see them perhaps being swayed by this because, as derek says, it feels safe. swayed by this because, as derek says, it not ls safe. swayed by this because, as derek says, it not saying we're to >> it's not saying we're to going abolish prone and we're going abolish prone and we're going abolish prone and we're going abolish gender power going to abolish gender power and raised and all children will be raised non—binary. we're non—binary. and, you know, we're going everyone go vegan going to make everyone go vegan tomorrow. it was a very conservative labour speech and i think and think that's sensible. and i think that's sensible. and i think makes a really good think olivia makes a really good point that his pitches were not the but at the moment the tories, but at the moment people fed enough that people are fed up enough that we're tories might win we're not the tories might win the election trust that if the election and i trust that if he it, he might do a good he gets it, he might do a good enough job. i kind almost enough job. i kind of almost don't need know what he's don't need to know what he's going do. indeed don't need to know what he's goiiesther,). indeed don't need to know what he's goiiesther, what'szd don't need to know what he's goiiesther, what's your appraisal >> esther, what's your appraisal of heard today? of what you heard today? >> well, i thought there was no vision. i thought was vision. i thought there was a dull where there should dull void where there should have i thought have been a vision. i thought there guiding principles. there was no guiding principles. i thought there was lots of platitudes, then platitudes, no policy. and then i well, for man i thought, well, for a man who's moved from to corbyn blair in a
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blink of an eye, shows he's blink of an eye, it shows he's got no guiding policies. he is a lawyer, isn't give him lawyer, isn't he? give him a brief and he'll argue it. give him a speech and he'll say it. and this me felt very and this one to me felt very mandelson kind speech. mandelson esque kind of speech. he is the british equivalent of joe he just reads the joe biden. he just reads the autocue better. so there was no principles. and he's got no instinct and instinct for politics. and this is why see that oscillation is why you see that oscillation in moment. he's in one moment. he's renationalised and the next he is one moment. student is in one moment. he student fees, he isn't going fees, the next. he isn't going to get rid of them. i think it's whoever speaks to last. so whoever speaks to him last. so he's but no ideas. whoever speaks to him last. so he':he's but no ideas. whoever speaks to him last. so he':he's going)ut no ideas. whoever speaks to him last. so he':he's going to. no ideas. >> he's going to. >> he's going to. >> rebecca oscillating is surely better than up with an better than coming up with an idea well, we've idea and saying, well, we've put it on the leaflet now, so we're going to have do it. i think going to have to do it. i think he's and i think he's he's listening and i think he's changing to what he thinks will win the election. also win him the election. but also what and he's what people want. and he's probably seen that rishi is being those five being pounded by those five things was going to things he said he was going to do you stand up and you say do if you stand up and you say five things you do five things and you don't do them, have dug your own them, you have dug your own grave. it must be horrible for ratio really it's better ratio really feels it's better politics, i thought ratio really feels it's better poli'very i thought ratio really feels it's better poli'very telling i thought ratio really feels it's better poli'very telling becauseght was very telling because
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obviously the labour party have been over by the been sort of taken over by the sort metropolitan elite. sort of metropolitan elite. >> wouldn't know a working >> they wouldn't know a working class they fell over >> they wouldn't know a working cla that's they fell over >> they wouldn't know a working cla that's they! fell over >> they wouldn't know a working cla that's they! felltheer tories. >> the tories are pretty elite, aren't they? rishi sunak pretty. >> so he kept saying working class because had try and class because he had to try and dupe them. they brought in ulez, which working which will affect the working class. they now reversing which will affect the working class. tzero now reversing which will affect the working class. tzero whichv reversing which will affect the working class. tzero which will ersing which will affect the working class. tzero which will impact the net zero which will impact the net zero which will impact the working class isn't going to help he did help the working. he did. he did are going pay for all his are going to pay for all his mistakes. >> more about working >> he talked more about working people than he working class people. >> that's speaking to the labour party and talking directly to working people have always been the tories who are paying the tax. >> you do you think labour don't work? >> you don't understand my point. he was speaking internally to his audience. >> i don't like the language. i think it's repulsive . i've but think it's repulsive. i've but nonetheless , i mean, he does nonetheless, i mean, he does have an internal audience that he has to address. and if i may say so, if rishi sunak thinks that tinkering around with a—levels and actually sort of doing something about teenagers
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and cigarettes is going to win the tories the next election, the tories the next election, the big issue he never raised was immigration as well . was immigration as well. >> and he did. >> and he did. >> inflation wasn't particularly touched upon as it wasn't yesterday. >> i just want to know when the meeting was that was decided in the tory party when everybody got together and went, we're going to start a thing that tories are poor and labour people are rich, metropolitan elites. is elites. they're not. labour is traditionally party of traditionally the party of people not more people with less money, not more money. hang on, where is this nick? zero is using him. nick? zero zero is using him. warren to ruin the world. warren trying to ruin the world. >> you, for the last >> let me tell you, for the last 20 net zero is a policy for the elites and can only be afforded by typekit destabilises the by the typekit destabilises the political climate change political ulez climate change will ulez . will affect ulez. >> are we going find >> where are we going to find £15,000 in between now and is not? >> that is not a number that is widely credited and it's also not a number that's going to apply to people with smaller houses. >> rebecca if you look at the polling over the last 20 years, that working class people left the party they the labour party because they could weren't for could see that they weren't for them they had high the
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them at all. they had high the current i say that current polling, as i say that at it totally does . at all. it totally does. >> actually forget forget , >> you actually forget forget, forget the working class people forget the working class people for please don't the tories do love that don't for a moment because actually the truth is , because actually the truth is, is that keir starmer has made his appeal to the soft tory voter and they may not be working class . working class. >> so i don't think that we need frame this in a narrative about class. i think it's a narrative about tactics and i think his tactics are right . tactics are right. >> so he'll be going woke as we know we'll be going broke, as they say. he'll also be increasing taxing, increasing spending, woke, even net zero is going such a silly phrase. >> net zero is going to mean nothing. my viewers and listeners money. they're going to have to buy an electric car in 2030. climate change in 2035 flooded. they afford it. flooded. they can't afford it. it afforded. meanwhile, it can't be afforded. meanwhile, china building coal fired china are building coal fired power month. power stations every month. >> be trying to >> and we should be trying to stop don't me wrong, stop that. don't get me wrong, we be burying beijing. we shouldn't be burying beijing. >> listen, more from my
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brilliant pundits shortly. brilliant pundits very shortly. as home is very as you know, this home is very much about free speech here at gb coming. gb news. so keep yours coming. margaret gbnews.com is the email. listen lots more to get through. can keir starmer do a reverse bojo by smashing the blue wall of tory voters? i'll be asking a man who's been on both sides of the political aisle, tory deputy chairman lee anderson. but up next in the clash after london descended into chaos last night with palestinian and israeli protesters being pulled apart by police, does it prove that suella braverman was right to say multi culturalism has failed? nina meshkov and emma webb will debate that in the clash. sparks will fly. see you
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from three on . gb news well, a from three on. gb news well, a big reaction on email to my big opinion. >> net zero is the headline of this particular email from paul . £15,000 for a heat pump, 35 grand for a new electric car. tell me if anyone who is working class can pay 50 grand for net zero. allen says 1.5 million new homes, referring to post world war ii. many of these were prefabs. if he's referring to energy efficient new builds, how will he refurbish the 19 million current poor housing that we have? he's living in cloud cuckoo land. there you go, a working class red wall voter is how allen describes himself and martin as a natural
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conservative. i'm totally turned off by the current government at cigarettes and a—levels are nonsense, as is the infrastructure con labour has at least got a vision for attractive housing. keep those emails coming at cbnnews.com tory deputy chairman lee anderson is standing by. can labour steal tory votes in a years labour steal tory votes in a year's time? but first the clash and suella braverman has written to police chiefs to demand that anyone showing support for the hamas terror group will be treated with the full force of the law. hamas attacks have claimed lives of more than claimed the lives of more than 1000 israelis since saturday, a death that reportedly death toll that reportedly includes babies. hundreds includes us babies. but hundreds of pro—palestine protesters descended on the israeli embassy in london last night chanting free palestine . nine israel and free palestine. nine israel and palestine protesters then had to be separated by police as tensions threatened to boil over the home secretary today said there can be no place for anti—semitism or glorification of terrorism. on the streets of britain . i therefore expect the britain. i therefore expect the police to use the full force of
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the law against displays of support for hamas. the daily telegraph columnist and assistant editor michael deacon believes that the mobs cheering hamas on the streets of britain have proved a braverman writes. he said when the home secretary said multiculturalism had failed. this is exactly what she was getting at. but what do you think? do the crowds celebrating hamas acts of terror prove that braverman was right? let me know your thoughts. mark at gb news dot com or at gb news on twitter. do vote in the poll. i'll bring you the results shortly. but to debate this now, i'm delighted welcome i'm delighted to welcome broadcaster and the broadcaster nina meshkov and the uk director of the common sense society , emma webb. emma has society, emma webb. emma has braverman been proved right in less than a week . less than a week. >> well, i think that you know this the argument that suella braverman made was made by david cameron and actually by the hero of the left, angela merkel back in 2015. and the truth is that
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nothing and not a thing has been done about it since they, you know, they admitted that multiculturalism had failed . multiculturalism had failed. nothing has come of that reflection . and absolutely, reflection. and absolutely, she's complete . right. you know, she's complete. right. you know, expressing support for a proscribed terrorist organisation , which hamas is, is organisation, which hamas is, is illegal in this country. so she's absolutely right. it's bizarre that in this country we see people being arrested for tweets that they put online for retweeting limericks , people retweeting limericks, people getting in trouble for all sorts of things that the police shouldn't be bothering, spending their time on and instead , we're their time on and instead, we're seeing people in the streets express support and frankly, being jubilant and celebrating the murder of jewish people , the murder of jewish people, innocent civilians, as you mentioned, the kidnap of elderly ladies from their homes , the ladies from their homes, the murder of children and the rape of women. this is being celebrated by people who believe that the freedom of palestine should come by any means necessary . they think the ends
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necessary. they think the ends justify the means. it's absolutely abhorrent and of course, people have the right to protest. people have the right to express their opinions on any matter at all. but the reality is that expressing your support for a proscribed terror organisation or inciting hatred are not inciting hatred or inciting violence . it's, to be inciting violence. it's, to be clear, not inciting hatred. that is something that is proscribed. so supporting hamas, a terrorist organisation is proscribed in britain under british law . britain under british law. >> yes, nina, celebrating the acts of terror that is against british values. but it's happening in our cities. does this tell us that multiculturalism is failing , multiculturalism is failing, saying, no, it doesn't. >> i mean, we're absolutely in despair about what's happening in gaza and the people cheering on the streets . on the streets. >> no, i agree. but they they are i'm not supporting hamas by any means. i'm quite the reverse . yes. and what emma said was absolutely right. but that does not these are people who are
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supporting the unsupportable . supporting the unsupportable. but that doesn't mean that multiculturalism has failed. they are not. they are not protesting against the british way of life about out our country. they presumably they have neighbours that maybe as as as normal palestinians they are living amongst british people, amongst polish people , amongst amongst polish people, amongst italian people, amongst greeks , italian people, amongst greeks, amongst irish, that is multiculturalism. any civil sized city, capital city in the world. you will see this that people live quietly amongst each other . this is people live quietly amongst each other. this is an people live quietly amongst each other . this is an extreme other. this is an extreme situation an and an extreme version. it it's not very it's not very extreme because it's thousands of people in our cities and it's happening across the western world. it's not thousand. it's perhaps hundreds. i would say it's not thousands and thousands. it's a small group of extremists. and that does not mean that we do not live happily alongside each
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other. you know , suella other. you know, suella braverman is a prime example of someone for whom multiculturalism has worked. so is rishi sunak. soto be fair, are you, mark? i assume from youn are you, mark? i assume from your, your your , your surname your, your your, your surname that you're of irish heritage that's multicultural . my father that's multicultural. my father was polish. that's multicultural. what is not multicultural, but is pure terrorism . um, is hamas and the terrorism. um, is hamas and the people who support hamas, the people who support hamas, the people . people. >> briefly, nina, though, can you imagine an after 9/11 if people had been on the streets of london and manchester and glasgow and belfast cheering that atrocity? what's the difference? >> no , it's cheering, cheering >> no, it's cheering, cheering the second world war and the treatment i'm in germany. i'm not supporting anybody who supports hamas and cheering for hamas and cheer singh for the harelle revolting inhumane mean things that are that are going on. >> on. >> we have communities in our country who are celebrating what happened this weekend and that's suella bravermans point.
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>> but they're saying but but they're saying also like people would, people are would, you know, people are saying if irish, you saying that if you're irish, you would support the ira , which is would support the ira, which is patently nonsense . you know, you patently nonsense. you know, you cannot extrapolate from that. this is an extreme situation , an this is an extreme situation, an extreme people, nina raises a brilliant point, which is the evil acts of hamas, who are a terror group, do not represent all palestinians. >> they're are some in palestine who support what hamas do , but who support what hamas do, but many who don't. so do you acknowledge nina's point there are there are civilians who are caught up in this on both sides. >> but i think what nina was describing, there is a multi—ethnic society, which i'm sure that nobody has any arguments with what we're talking about with multiculturalism is what has been described by some as plural monoculturalism you end up with a kind of mosaic journeys with closed communities that are not integrating. i actually don't think that what we're seeing at the moment in our streets,
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particularly the support for hamas, is exclusively some issue to do with multiculturalism, because we've seen people from all sorts of communities and jeremy corbyn himself is somebody who described hamas as his friends in the past. there are all sorts of people who have expressed support for hamas, people who are frankly despicably celebrating this online. this is a problem to do with the values that we hold as a society and, you know, yes, multiculturalism has failed. as i said, we acknowledged that back in 2015. it doesn't work to have all of these closed communities not integrate . but communities not integrate. but what seeing at the moment what we're seeing at the moment with hamas with this celebration of hamas atrocities in our streets is a much, much bigger problem that we need to have a proper conversation it's not conversation about. it's not just to any issues just limited to any issues relating to multicultural ism that have been talked about to death already. >> emma, would you say >> briefly, emma, would you say that celebrating the that those celebrating the atrocities of hamas this weekend in this country amount to hundreds or thousands ? i have
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hundreds or thousands? i have absolutely no idea. >> but one is too many. okay brilliant stuff. >> look, my thanks to nina myskow and emma webb for a fascinating debate about what's your view? do crowds cheering hamas prove suella braverman right about multiculturalism? well, laura says those protests were not multiculturalism. they were not multiculturalism. they were supporting hamas , a terror were supporting hamas, a terror organisation. they should all have been arrested. david says. in this context, yes, it has failed. but many parts of the uk have benefited from multiculturalism and many public services are much better because of it, sasha says. of course multiculturalism doesn't and never will work because it has been forced on us by politicians. the protests in london last night proved that, well, your verdict is in and let me tell you that 91% of you agree that crowds cheering hamas prove braverman right. 9% say they do not. coming up as the new big brother housemates go woke by announcing their pronouns on the show is gender madness here to stay? i'll be
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six till 930. >> gb news superstar nana akua coming up to discuss big brother stars being forced to declare their pronouns on tv and why the bbc's fiona bruce shouldn't be apologised . racing after a race apologised. racing after a race row on question time. but first, the real world with lee anderson. and as we've discussed earlier tonight, keir starmer has set out his plans for government today at the labour party conference, concluding his speech with special appeal to speech with a special appeal to tory voters . tory voters. >> so if you are a conservative voter who despair of this, if you look in horror at the descent of your party into the murky waters of populism and conspiracy with no argument for economic change, if you feel our country needs a party that can serve , that fights for our serve, that fights for our union, our environment, the rule of law , your family life, the of law, your family life, the careful bond between this generation and the next. then let me tell you, britain already
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has one and you can join it. it's this labour party now . it's this labour party now. >> lee rachel reeves is spending plans are modest at best. it clearly tony blair is starting to have some influence on the leadership of the labour party . leadership of the labour party. they've shifted to the right. are they a threat to the tories ? >> they're always a threat. >> they're always a threat. >> they're always a threat. >> the labour party are. they're a threat to this country. mark look, i listen to rachel early on. unfortunately i didn't listen to sir keir's speech earlier on, but he thinks it's in the bag. he's getting a little bit cocky, he's a little bit smug, and he's taken the british public for granted at the moment. there was no substance in there. my colleagues have told me today i was looking at the press snippets after his speech. nothing in there any nothing in there of any substance at 1.5 million homes. >> he's tech colleges for young people to get skills. >> well, look, i mean, this is a cut and paste of what michael gove was saying back in july, on
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july the 25th, green revolution. >> yeah. mean, gove and our >> yeah. i mean, gove and our government this government were saying this back in it's and paste is in july. it's a cut and paste is he's got no new ideas. the british public i knocked doors every week. mark in ashfield and they are grumpy with they say they are grumpy with they say they are grumpy with the conservative party obviously after but there's no after 13 years. but there's no love for starmer at all. they're not rushing back to vote for labour first time. first labour the first time. first time tory voters are not going back labour at all. they're back to labour at all. they're grumpy as i keep saying, grumpy with us as i keep saying, but no love, they but like i say, no love, they don't him. don't trust him. >> heard from starmer >> what you heard from starmer today, was nothing in today, there was nothing in there that would frighten the horses and that is surely therefore demonstrates he could do a tony blair because it was tony blair who got tory voters to support him in 1997. why can't starmer do it second time round? i mean, back in round? listen i mean, back in 1997, blair had some good policies . policies. >> the wage was >> the minimum wage was a killer. it was a killer. it was doubung killer. it was a killer. it was doubling people's wages overnight. giants in his overnight. he had giants in his shadow cabinet. you know, he had he had alistair darling, he had he had alistair darling, he had he had alistair darling, he had he had gordon brown. he had some robin cook. he had robin cook. robin cook. he had jack straw. he had these real
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big politicians. big heavyweight politicians. >> yeah. big players. you >> yeah, yeah. big players. you could see automatically they could see automatically they could into being a cabinet could slot into being a cabinet straightaway. who's he got now . straightaway. who's he got now. he's got angela rayner. he's got anna , he's got john anna eagle, he's got john ashworth. jokes, jokes i >> rachel reeves with the background bank background in the bank of england, economist, she england, an economist, well she has credentials as well. has good credentials as well. >> you knock on any door in ashfield and people who ashfield and ask people who rachel have not rachel reeves is, they have not a rachel reeves is. but a clue. rachel reeves is. but i mean like i say before, blair had good policies. he had great politicians him because politicians behind him because just that just drop into that slot. i mean, got all mean, starmer's got nothing. all he's himself. i mean, he's got is himself. i mean, look lammy. i mean, he's look at lammy. i mean, he's a laughing stock, you know, you knock doors and. david lammy knock on doors and. david lammy is an absolute laughing. why? well, mean, he comes well, he is. i mean, is he comes across as anti british. he won't let the brexit finish. let the brexit argument finish. he the eu every he wants to rejoin the eu every single word mutters lately is single word he mutters lately is about rejoining the eu. i mean, people in ashfield in the red wall are furious about can you call him anti—british? >> i mean, he's a proud londoner. i think he's a spurs fan, you what i mean? he's fan, you know what i mean? he's he's hardly anti—british. well i
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say anti—brexit. he's hardly anti—british. well i say i anti—brexit. he's hardly anti—british. well i sayi mean, :i—brexit. he's hardly anti—british. well i sayi mean, probably a poor >> i mean, probably a poor choice there. but you choice of words there. but you know, time he chimes up on know, every time he chimes up on whether on gb news or lbc whether it's on gb news or lbc or wherever he is, it's anti—brexit, you know, he refuses to accept the democratic will of the british people . will of the british people. >> well, of course, he did say he wants to date the eu again. and i know that you'd be swiping left. >> not right. listen what does that mean? >> is he on tinder? is he on some sort of dating app? look, he needs to a grip. i mean. he needs to get a grip. i mean. i mean, look, wish he'd come i mean, look, i wish he'd come and against me in and stand against me in ashfield, you know, this david lammy right in lammy character is all right in london, the place is like london, and the place is like this. but come to the real world. which is which the world. which is which is the north, which the red wall north, which is the red wall seats people like seats standing. it's people like me a prayer. me who wouldn't have a prayer. absolutely. absolutely. >> you know, >> well, i guess, you know, represents quite a challenged part of london. it's not not exactly. look, love chelsea. exactly. i look, i love chelsea. >> i learned very early on when i got to parliament, people used to say to me, do you know to say to me, how do you know which way to vote? and i used to say to them, look which voting lobby is going in lobby david lammy is going in and other and
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and going the other one. and then if you do that, you've got it right. >> listen, we must get david lammy and a ding dong lammy on and maybe a ding dong between the two of you would be it a great thing. great it would be a great thing. great telly blair is a vote telly back to blair is a vote for starmer for blair. for starmer a vote for blair. will blair be the back seat driver? will blair be the back seat dri\well, think he will, >> well, i think he will, because, you know, blair's been sniffing about now for the past few well, past few months. well, the past few years. be the years. he seems to be the driving force behind the labour party at the moment. he will not go like a bad go away. he's like a bad political i political smell, you know, i think starmer is weak, is very weak i his shadow weak indeed. i think his shadow cabinet weak and they're cabinet is weak and they're looking guidance. they're looking for guidance. they're looking for guidance. they're looking for guidance. they're looking for some sort of leadership blair. blair leadership from blair. blair needs away. caused needs to go away. he's caused enough this as needs to go away. he's caused eris. gh this as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look this as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look at this as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look at the this as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look at the iraq his as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look at the iraq war. as needs to go away. he's caused eris. look at the iraq war. i as it is. look at the iraq war. i can never forgive him for that. and i think, you know, sir keir starmer his own man. starmer needs to be his own man. and i think the british public are looking at him now and seeing blair seeing seeing blair in the background. i think, you know what? man. he's what? he's not his own man. he's being by blair. what? he's not his own man. he's beiiyou by blair. what? he's not his own man. he's beiiyou were, by blair. what? he's not his own man. he's beiiyou were, of blair. what? he's not his own man. he's beiiyou were, of course, labour >> you were, of course, a labour man why you leave? man yourself. why did you leave? >> was a couple of >> well, there was a couple of things, there there things, really. there was there was corbyn, there was brexit,
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and boris. boris was and there was boris. boris was a big draw but it was big draw for me, but it was that. that you know, the that. it's that you know, the labour to labour party are supposed to represent class, but represent the working class, but we on doors in we were knocking on doors in 2017 the general 2017 during the general election. getting chased 2017 during the general elethe1. getting chased 2017 during the general elethe street getting chased 2017 during the general elethe street by getting chased 2017 during the general elethe street by people g chased 2017 during the general elethe street by people who ased off the street by people who were very, very angry with us. these health these were, these were health workers. these were veteran guys who stand jeremy workers. these were veteran guys who they stand jeremy workers. these were veteran guys who they starliterallyy corbyn. they were literally chasing calling corbyn. they were literally ch.traitors. calling corbyn. they were literally ch.traitors. you calling corbyn. they were literally ch.traitors. you calwhat us traitors. and you know what i thought myself, this this thought to myself, this this labour is not the party labour party is not the party for me. during the tory party could been happier. and could not have been happier. and i'm job. i'm doing this job. >> what about last week was >> but what about last week was it the labour it awake compared to the labour party conference? that party conference? i'm told that the atmosphere is buzzing in liverpool this week, whereas it was like a morgue , wasn't it, was like a morgue, wasn't it, last in manchester. last week in manchester. >> a load of rubbish that >> what a load of rubbish that is. i mean i was at the tory conference it conference last week, it was a lot better than last year, very positive lots of young positive of lots of young people. there listen, if you think buzzing at a labour think it's buzzing at a labour conference, really you need to get out more. mark you really do. i mean, i've seen it today. it's i mean, the tory conference was was pretty good. had was was pretty good. we had a tough time last year. we've had a 12 months. but last last a tough 12 months. but last last yean a tough 12 months. but last last year, lots of young people there
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enthusiastic. it's not over . enthusiastic. it's not over. it's all to play for. >> all right so you think that rishi sunak can win the next election and you and you've not had tonight, but i've had a drink tonight, but i've had a drink tonight, but i've had few. okay i rest my case. had a few. okay i rest my case. listen let me tell you that our coverage course, both coverage, of course, of both conferences fantastic . conferences has been fantastic. well to my colleagues well done to all my colleagues and let me tell you that we were surprised cameo surprised by a fleeting cameo appearance from peter mandelson , new labour guru. of course , , new labour guru. of course, take a watch of this. >> iran gb news to keep going there , stirring the pot there, there, stirring the pot there, creating divisions in the conservative party . conservative party. >> we're doing a much better job than that. >> undoing the conservative party and very, very timely . it party and very, very timely. it is too. >> well, good on you. peter mandelson , and well done to mandelson, and well done to andrew pierce for that excuse . andrew pierce for that excuse. elusive. so peter mandelson, the architect of new labour, wants gb news to keep on going. >> well, it's a wise man, isn't he? indeed, mark. >> look, although he says it's because this channel is splitting tory party, that's splitting the tory party, that's what he says.
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>> i don't think is. look, >> i don't think it is. look, i mean, a of my friends and mean, a lot of my friends and family and colleagues the family and colleagues watch the gb is growing gb news, the audience is growing every go different every week and i go to different associations. you've given us a bump. go different bump. yes, i go to a different associate every friday and speak to 2—2 members. i've spoken to about 50 associations over the over year. that's over the last year. that's probably about 20 odd. well, thousands and thousands of people speak to , they all people i speak to, they all watch gb news because they're getting their dose of common sense. getting politics sense. they're getting politics and a bit of entertainment as well. lee you need a change well. lee you do need a change of every so often. of government every so often. >> 13 years of tory rule, >> so 13 years of tory rule, time for change just for our time for a change just for our democracy, surely? >> is badged himself >> well, rishi is badged himself as prime minister of change as the prime minister of change over the few weeks, and over the past few weeks, and i think is. he's got a plan. think he is. he's got a plan. he's got five point plan. he's got his five point plan. look know, starmer gets look you know, if starmer gets in next okay, get your in next year. okay, get your passport sorted, mark, get out of the country . of the country. >> that's listen, can't argue with there was a barbed with that. there was a barbed comment starmer , which comment from keir starmer, which is his job. he's the leader of the opposition. he talked about how tories descended how the tories had descended into rac into populism and conspi rac what do you think he meant by
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that? >> well, i think, you know, i think it's a bit rich coming from sir keir starmer. every single bandwagon the moment single bandwagon at the moment he be leaping on. he's he seems to be leaping on. he's the at the the populist leader at the moment. is . he will say moment. he is. he will say anything and do anything to get to number 10 populism. what does that mark it means saying that mean? mark it means saying the things that the british pubuc the things that the british public there's nothing the things that the british public with there's nothing the things that the british public with theii 's nothing the things that the british public with theii don'thing the things that the british public with theii don't think. wrong with that. i don't think. >> can i congratulate you on a very haircut, by the very smart haircut, by the way. >> short back >> thank you. short back and sides. go. sides. £8. there you go. >> worth every as are >> worth every penny, as are you, lee. we'll catch up soon. my to anderson, the my thanks to lee anderson, the deputy the deputy chairman of the conservative no, the conservative party. no, the chairman do chairman. your deputy deputy. do you know what i think? i think it's matter of let's be it's a matter of time. let's be honest. and also, course, gb honest. and also, of course, gb news stuff . news star, brilliant stuff. well, look, lots more to come as holly willoughby sensationally quits 14 quits this morning after 14 years, show survive years, can the show survive without its star? will debate that shortly . but next, as the that shortly. but next, as the new big brother housemates go woke by announcing their pronouns on the show, is gender madness here to stay and why? the bbc's fiona bruce shouldn't be apologising after a race row
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on question time. no nonsense gb news superstar nana akua is
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n ext next well, it's a brilliant question, isn't it? can keir starmer? can he do a boris johnson and smash the blue wall of tory voters ? the blue wall of tory voters? big response on email. hi mark. i was a labour supporter, part of the red wall who voted tory last time due to brexit and i will not be voting for this woke wet the so—called wet behind the ear so—called labour saying labour party saying they represent the working class of this country. neither will i vote the tories who talk the vote for the tories who talk the talk and do nothing. will talk and do nothing. i will vote reform so you reform. so there you go. fascinating stuff . those fascinating stuff. keep those emails coming and folks, let us crack on matthew goodwin and toby young coming up. but first, it's time for no nonsense gb news superstar nana akua, an itv's new reboot of the iconic reality show big brother has made a splash with one housemate making broadcasts history by
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being the first contestant to enter the big brother house on a mobility scooter . brilliant mobility scooter. brilliant stuff. congratulations to her. but last night's episode dragged viewers hoping for light entertainment into the gender wars instead. take a listen. >> can we just double check pronouns so nobody gets offended? >> what did you say ? a fabulous >> what did you say? a fabulous run . what's your pronouns? run. what's your pronouns? >> she. her >> she. her >> he, him. >> he, him. >> he, him. >> he. >> he. >> him. he. >> him. he. >> him. he. him >> him. he. him >> she. her. she. her >> she. her. she. her >> he. him. him. him. him >> he. him. him. him. him >> she. her. yeah. >> she. her. yeah. >> she. her or she. her >> she. her or she. her >> she. her or she. her >> she her. >> she her. >> well my pronouns are who the hell cares. nana great to have you on the show. nana announcing your pronouns is tricky, isn't it? because it means you're signing up to a mad ideology that you can change your biology sex. >> well, it is nonsense. i would have said my pronouns are air her royal highness. you can call me that . i her royal highness. you can call me that. i mean, her royal highness. you can call me that . i mean, honestly, me that. i mean, honestly, they're going to look at this.
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i'm hoping that when they look at this, they realise just how ridiculous i mean, as ridiculous this is. i mean, as if you need tell somebody if you need to tell somebody your pronouns. how about if you need to tell somebody your pronouns . how about just your pronouns. how about just sticking name? i just. sticking with your name? i just. the thing is just awful. the whole thing is just awful. >> well, you're all highness. i completely agree with you . and completely agree with you. and of course, nana. whoa betide anyone that says they won't announce their pronouns . this is announce their pronouns. this is compelled speech, isn't it? imagine being the person at that table that says, no, i don't want to participate in this. >> i would. would. i would be want to participate in this. >> iperson. would. i would be want to participate in this. >> iperson. because i would be want to participate in this. >> iperson. because you uld be want to participate in this. >> iperson. because you knowe that person. because you know what? what this is, is some very nice people thinking that they're going to be all inclusive and makes a nice tv and some niceness . but and show some niceness. but nobody wants to see that. nobody's going to watch it. i love it when do you remember what was the name? was it makosi when when it was when she had the when it was supposedly the jacuzzi baby . but supposedly the jacuzzi baby. but obviously she didn't get pregnant. but you know, that was more like it. nasty nick the more like it. nasty nick in the big brother house. you know, we want scheming and want plotting and scheming and interesting stuff. not this pathetic sickness of announcing
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your pronouns. i would be the person saying , no, not going person saying, no, i'm not going to this is ridiculous. yes. >> well, indeed, there is pressure there pressure pressure nana. there is pressure to comply, isn't there? when halifax had their their pronouns on the name badges, they said , on the name badges, they said, look, this is voluntary. but again, you'd have to be pretty brave to not participate . right. brave to not participate. right. and that's the point. you are pressuring us to take part in this . pressuring us to take part in thiswell, course, because if >> well, of course, because if you don't, then you're the odd one out because everybody else you don't, then you're the odd or being because everybody else you don't, then you're the odd or being going;e everybody else you don't, then you're the odd orbeing going;e everybodthis;e is being going along with this narrative of coming out with their pronouns . i just i just their pronouns. i just i just find it absurd that these aren't perfectly sensible adults who could work out whether someone's a he or a she. and if somebody is a biological man and they look like a man, but they want to be referred to you as a she. well, if you want to partake in that, you can. but i'm not prepared to to my own eyes. prepared to lie to my own eyes. >> briefly, though, nana. i mean, what's problem mean, what's the problem with saying her because saying that i'm she her because you her. we know that you are a she her. we know that trans people subjected to trans people are subjected to terrible prejudice in our society. it's nice that society. perhaps it's nice that
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they feel included. >> well, well , you know, that's >> well, well, you know, that's fine if they want to say that she her. but then it's down to the person who is whether they want to participate in it. do you know what i mean? but you're never going to refer to someone who you're speaking to as a she or anyway, when you're or a her anyway, when you're talking anyway. talking to them directly anyway. so a nonsense and so it's a bit of a nonsense and you cannot force someone to tell someone how they refer to someone how they should refer to you person sees you as you if that person sees you as a he and they think you are a he. i mean, it gets really stupid when people start breaking the laws of english language and start calling themselves are they ? is absurd . they then? which is absurd. >> no, listen. absolutely. james, do we have the question time clip ? james, do we have the question time clip? brilliant james, do we have the question time clip ? brilliant stuff. so time clip? brilliant stuff. so nana , we know that fiona bruce nana, we know that fiona bruce has apologised for trying to get the attention of one of her studio audience by saying the black guy in front of me. take a listen to the offending clip. the guy knows the black guy in the middle. >> yes. yes. you, sir? yeah >> yes. yes. you, sir? yeah >> it's interesting time for this to be announced . i'm not
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this to be announced. i'm not sure why. at the party conference didn't speak about more funding into schools . more funding into schools. >> nana was an apology necessary ? >> no. he is black. what's the problem ? he's black. i've been problem? he's black. i've been called the black girl. i don't have a problem with it. nobody's insulting or offending . you're insulting or offending. you're looking at a room that's mostly filled with white people and there's one person who is there between a load of people who are white, who is black. you're describing that person just by looking at them. what are their descriptive characteristics? are it's absurd. it's happened to me many times . one time was many times. one time i was working at sky and i was presenting a show and there was a person the it was a person in the gallery. it was a person in the gallery. it was a and she was the a black girl and she was the only black the gallery. only black girl in the gallery. and they went ages just describe seeing was wearing seeing what she was wearing and then end i in, i then in the end i went in, i said, what the black girl. they went, and just thought, went, yeah. and i just thought, why say that? why didn't you just say that? it's that she's not being offensive. simply calling offensive. she's simply calling because things because she's describing things by colour , because she's picking by colour, because she's picking people in audience to
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people out in the audience to speak. he happens to be black. so i don't see problem. i so i don't see the problem. i appreciate didn't appreciate that she didn't reference the white people, but that's because the room was mostly full of people. it mostly full of white people. it would same if you were would be the same if you were in ghana a white ghana and there was a white person the crowd. you would person in the crowd. you would say the white person. >> so you're all highness, a privilege as always. nana akua back gb news on saturday at back on gb news on saturday at three. brilliant stuff . so much three. brilliant stuff. so much more to come . three. brilliant stuff. so much more to come. can this morning survive without holly willoughby after she sensationally quits the show today? we'll discuss that in the next hour. but first, starmer plans for first, as keir starmer plans for a in power, can the uk a decade in power, can the uk survive ten years of labour rule 7 survive ten years of labour rule ? all of that is next. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. rain moving south into northern england , northern northern england, northern ireland and wales overnight clearer but staying blustery for scotland. whilst it remains warm in the far south, there's a significant temperature contrast across the uk at the moment . across the uk at the moment. warmth in the south—east, chilly in the north and northwest and
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in the north and northwest and in between a band of rain. finally easing across central and western scotland , pushing and western scotland, pushing into southern scotland during the evening , northern ireland the evening, northern ireland and later on across parts and then later on across parts of northern england and wales. the rain pepping up by the end of the night in these areas as well. now it stays dry further south, be a lot of south, but there'll be a lot of low and mist to begin low cloud and mist to begin things on wednesday, a mild start a start start here, but a chilly start for scotland, especially central belt northwards, mid single figures strong wind, in figures and a strong wind, in fact, gales blowing through exposed northern and northwestern coasts with frequent showers here. so a fairly unpleasant day to come here, even if it has stopped raining further south. we've got spells of rain through wales, the midlands and east anglia continuing through the day, staying largely dry after the early clears in the early mist clears in the far south and southeast, warm south and southeast, still warm , not warm as it has been , but not as warm as it has been . and then it's in the south where rain comes stop where the rain comes to a stop on thursday . the rain does ease, on thursday. the rain does ease, but it stays fairly drizzly along of these southern along some of these southern counties england. brighter counties of england. brighter skies north. in fact, skies further north. in fact, a nice sunny day for north wales,
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>> well, it is coming up to 10:00 and lots of emails coming in thick and fast across a range of topics. mark at gbnews.com is the email . and as regards the the email. and as regards the tories and labour, can labour win the next election on? hi mark. i've been a labour supporter, part of the red wall who voted tory last time due to brexit. i will not be voting tory or labour at the next election. reform all the way. colin hi mark. i wish i had a stall selling large shoes and flashing red noses at the labour conference in liverpool. i'd make a fortune as it seems to be full of clowns. well, look, this show is all about opinions. what's yours? mark gbnews.com. it is 10:00. i am mark dolan and this is gb news tonight with sir
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keir starmer is aiming for a decade in downing street as he sets out his ambitious vision for britain. we will face down the age of insecurity together . the age of insecurity together. we break the stranglehold of tory decline , walk towards tory decline, walk towards a decade of national renewal . but decade of national renewal. but can britain really survive ten years of labour rule? that's the big debate with my panel of pundits next. tonight, esther mcvey, derek lord and rebecca reid . sir keir ignores the reid. sir keir ignores the national excuse me, sir keir starmer ignores the nation's frustration at the worsening war on motorists , promising to speed on motorists, promising to speed up the march to net zero. does the policy show that labour is out of touch with ordinary voters? i'll get stuck into that with author and academic matt goodwin. also coming up with proposals to label processed food as addictive. hot on the heels of rishi, sunak's plans to phase out smoking. are we the great british public now being
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treated like children? we'll thrash that one out in the media. buzz also later in the show, what impact would a labour government have on our rights to free speech? many are already dreading five potential years of woke hell and the founder of the free speech union, maverick journalist toby young , will join journalist toby young, will join me live to look at our freedoms of the future . also, tomorrow's of the future. also, tomorrow's front pages and we'll be debating the following. how will holly willoughby handle her exit from this morning? will the show survive? we'll debate that with my pundits. so much to get through . but first, here's the through. but first, here's the news. and polly middlehurst . news. and polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. well, the main story from the newsroom tonight is that the us president has condemned the attacks by hamas on israel , vowing to have on israel, vowing to have israel's back. joe biden was speaking about an hour ago at the white house. meanwhile, the hamas terrorist group has been
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firing missiles throughout the day at israel. earlier warning residents in the southern city of ashkelon to leave their homes as israel's anti—missile system was used to intercept much of the incoming rocket fire. biden says hamas's attacks are an act of sheer evil . of sheer evil. >> this attack is brought to the surface. painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of anti—semitism and genocide of the jewish people . so in this the jewish people. so in this moment , we the jewish people. so in this moment, we must be the jewish people. so in this moment , we must be crystal clear moment, we must be crystal clear . we stand with israel. we stand with israel , and we will make with israel, and we will make sure israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack . well, israeli this attack. well, israeli soldiers have been clearing the far kibbutz that's in one of the hardest hit areas of hamas's attacks in the south.
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>> men, women and children are believed to have been killed at the kibbutz and israeli troops have had the grim task of retrieving their bodies today after hamas breached the border from gaza. the idf this evening confirming their soldiers have also been responding to fire from syria with artillery and mortar shelling . that news just mortar shelling. that news just coming to us. we'll bring you more on that as we can get it. but in the meantime, gb news reporter charlie peters is based for us in tel aviv at the moment. he's been speaking to one of the kamiya one survivor of the kamiya kibbutz. that's between ashkelon and gaza. she told her story. >> did you see anything in the street when you drove through? >> did you see the bodies and. >> did you see the bodies and. >> yeah, mostly bodies. some of them were burned. so we didn't recognise people. some of them were terrorist bodies . later on, were terrorist bodies. later on, i found out that i have a few of my friends in the party in the rave that was raging at that
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morning. some of them were kidnapped. some of them were raped and taken under hostage to the gaza strip . it was really the gaza strip. it was really very horrible . the kibbutz very horrible. the kibbutz attack survivor daniel biton speaking there. >> now , in other news today, the >> now, in other news today, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has promised a decade of national renewal if his party is elected at the next general election. addressing the labour party conference in liverpool today, he pledged to build a better britain and announced plans to create new towns and build more homes. he also focussed on the uk's economic growth as he laid out labour's plans for britain's future . now plans for britain's future. now also tonight, the tv presenter holly willoughby has announced she's quitting itv's this morning programme after 14 years hosting the show . she said it in hosting the show. she said it in an instagram post today, adding it had been an honourjust to be
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part of the good morning story. she's made the decision, she says, for herself and her family. just last week , a family. just last week, a shopping centre security guard was charged and remanded in custody over an alleged plot to kidnap and kill her. ulez gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> thanks, polly. tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. let's kick off with the very first look at tomorrow's front pages. first look at tomorrow's front pages . we start with metro 40 pages. we start with metro 40 babies murdered by hamas, children beheaded as families slaughtered, say israel . isis slaughtered, say israel. isis levels savagery says the us as americans are held hostage . americans are held hostage. hamas begins a new blitz after two terror chiefs die in raid. also, as polly was mentioning in the bulletin, holly quits. that's right. holly willoughby has left court this morning
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after, i believe, for 18 years will the show survive without her? we'll debate that at 1030. the independent's starmer shrugs off glitter ambush to launch mission to rebuild britain . and mission to rebuild britain. and also in a special dispatch in the independent horror on the front line, they decapitate hated women and children. we saw dead babies and israeli major claims the bodies are hidden, so it's impossible to verify why. but this village smells of death the most awful headlines. well, let's get reaction to the big stories of the day with former cabinet minister in gb news presenter esther mcvey back anchor and visiting professor derek laud and author and journalist rebecca reid . now sir journalist rebecca reid. now sir keir starmer made a milestone speech at labour party conference earlier today and no amount of glitter was able to stop him from making a bold bid for a decade in downing street. take a listen . take a listen. >> but there's no magic wand here. a decade of national
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renewal that is what it will take. we will face down the age of insecurity together . break of insecurity together. break the stranglehold of tory decline , walk towards a decade of national renewal , a decade of national renewal, a decade of labour rule . labour rule. >> do you like the sound of that, esther? >> oh, no, i certainly don't. >> oh, no, i certainly don't. >> but you've had 13 years of tory rule, isn't it their turn to give it a shot? tories have beenin to give it a shot? tories have been in power for 13 years. we've got high inflation in a cost they cost of living crisis. they couldn't do a worse job, could they? don't say you go they? well, i don't say you go from and give somebody from one and you give somebody else chance you else a chance because you think they should. else a chance because you think they shwno, i. else a chance because you think they shwno, no. do you not >> no, no, no. do you not sometimes think that there's time for change? i think time for a change? no. i think people get this into people need to get this into perspective when people talk perspective. when people talk about 13 years tories in about 13 years of tories in government , it wasn't there was government, it wasn't there was a then there was a coalition then there was a supply and demand with the dup. so there was a couple of years with conservatives and then the
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country wanted more of us. hence you got an 80 seat majority. i'll tell you what has set us all backwards is without a shadow of a doubt . and that was shadow of a doubt. and that was lockdown down and covid and watson folded from that. the £400 billion cost, the cost of living crisis, the mental health, the health. and you spoke out against the lockdowns. i always did. and labour would have locked down longer and harder. so what's actually shook the country and what's got the country up and what's got everybody is not those everybody unhappy is not those 13 years. it has been the last couple. the devastating couple. and the devastating consequence losses from them. and what i think has been and that's what i think has been the issue. >> it's a bit than that. >> it's a bit more than that. and i don't think in my lifetime i've ever wanted to have a labour government and i don't want to have a labour government labour government and i don't want butlave a labour government labour government and i don't want butla do a labour government labour government and i don't want butla do wantour government now, but i do want a conservative government and a conservative government and a conservative party to do better. they have failed on many important areas of policy and pubuc important areas of policy and public expense . pitcher is one public expense. pitcher is one of them to .57 2 billion is the
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national debt. it's costing 8 billion a day. >> and derek, you're quite right because i don't believe we were conservatives as we went into that never ending lockdown . that that never ending lockdown. that to me was socialism. the dial shifted away from personal responsibility into socialism on a very important point because i think the conservative party have by stealth , actually have by stealth, actually created a socialist society. and it was interesting when you had where we don't question well , if where we don't question well, if the tories have messed up so much, it's time for a change. no, it's time to find your inner tory, which i believe rishi sunak has now done. >> derek do the tories need five years in opposition to find their inner tory? >> no, because i think we their inner tory? >> nin because i think we their inner tory? >> nin rishi|se i think we their inner tory? >> nin rishi sunakink we their inner tory? >> nin rishi sunak somebody) their inner tory? >> nin rishi sunak somebody who have in rishi sunak somebody who is who i think is clever, somebody who i think has the right instincts , has the right instincts, somebody who's going to be clearly very competent and somebody should give chance. >> okay. what do you think about this, rebecca? >> don't think need five >> i don't think they need five years opposition to think years in opposition to think about i think they ten about it. i think they need ten years think
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years in opposition to think about years in opposition to think aboit years in opposition to think aboi think, says the socialist >> i think, says the socialist in the room of course you do. >> that's literally i'm >> yes. that's literally why i'm here. don't you think ten years is presumptuous is a bit presumptuous for keir starmer to be announcing that he's years? i think it's he's got ten years? i think it's ambitious i don't know he's got ten years? i think it's ambitiotit i don't know he's got ten years? i think it's ambitiotit would ion't know he's got ten years? i think it's ambitiotit would still know he's got ten years? i think it's ambitiotit would still be)w he's got ten years? i think it's ambitiotit would still be keir whether it would still be keir starmer. there should be starmer. i think there should be ten labour. think ten years of labour. i think he should probably do the five and see gets on. see how it gets on. >> who's next, who's next? >> who's next, who's next? >> rayner love it >> angela rayner i would love it to rayner why would to be angela rayner why would you rayner the you love angela rayner the french twin? >> oh see. but are there, are >> oh i see. but are there, are there non—aesthetic there other non—aesthetic reasons her? reasons why you like her? >> she seems >> no. well i think she seems like a crack. she definitely wouldn't bring in. she wouldn't ban which ban vaping or smoking, which i think nice. she's think would be very nice. she's less state on on sorts less nanny state on on all sorts of but i think of social policies, but i think my here is i'm my frustration here is i'm heanng my frustration here is i'm hearing of people talking hearing a lot of people talking about, have about, well, labour would have done have done this, labour would have done that. it's completely hypothetical . hypothetical revisionist. >> it's not well, sort of wales. >> it's not well, sort of wales. >> it's not well, sort of wales. >> i don't know what actually would have. >> keir starmer called for keir starmer day in starmer called freedom day in july reckless but we don't july 2021. reckless but we don't know what he would actually have done. >> he was in opposition. well, he would have. >> he would have sent us back
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into lockdown. we would have had a in 20 a christmas lockdown in 20 the end 2021. end of 2021. >> job was be in >> his job was to be in opposition. therefore, was he opposition. therefore, he was he did rebecca, i'll come did let rebecca, i'll come back to a moment. did let rebecca, i'll come back to derek,i moment. did let rebecca, i'll come back to derek, continuet. did let rebecca, i'll come back to derek, continue your point. >> derek, continue your point. >> derek, continue your point. >> rebecca. my point that >> rebecca. my point is that they are they are doing they are tired. they are doing a rubbish you talk about rubbish job. you can talk about the of like there the little bits of like there was bit and was a coalition for a bit and some people them and some people stopped them and there was a lockdown, but they oversaw happened oversaw everything that happened in are in the last 13 years. they are tired. tired. i even if tired. we are tired. i even if i were a tory, i would say they need a break. they need a rest. at the of testing, kia at the end of testing, kia hasn't been in yet, hasn't even been in yet, but he's tired because he couldn't come up with a policy. >> and i look at the >> and when i look at the policies with of policies come up with lots of policies, to cost us policies, he's going to cost us more. i said, the ulez the more. like i said, the ulez the reverse policy to rebecca zero reversing. >> what are policies? >> what are those policies? i mean, net zero, mean, it's a race to net zero, which going to cost which is going to cost my viewers listeners money. viewers and listeners money. >> having places that you can study more than study to do things more than what's those what's the timeline for those houses? >> 1.5 houses? >>1.5 million next houses? >> 1.5 million next five years? he no, he didn't. there was he said no, he didn't. there was no timeline. >> literally just he >> he said he literally just he just next five years >> he said he literally just he jusmore next five years >> he said he literally just he jusmore houses:t five years >> he said he literally just he jusmore houses , five years >> he said he literally just he jusmore houses , when ears >> he said he literally just he jusmore houses , when you've got for more houses, when you've got open borders, right, you open borders, you're right, you will houses .
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will need more houses. >> he never talked about immigration. looking at new immigration. he's looking at new borders. also open borders borders. he's also open borders , argument . , a race equality argument. >> did the problem start one at a time? >> first, esther bringing in a race that nobody race equality act that nobody knows what that is. we've got an equalities mate equalities act. your mate angela, bring in a angela, wants to bring in a misogyny bill. what actually is a i would love a misogyny . a i would love a misogyny. >> would you like a brilliant assembly before they do it? they'll do some misogyny and they'll work it out. but does it mean you'll be a hate crime? misogyny is not currently a hate crime. >> misogyny is a terrible thing. >> misogyny is a terrible thing. >> deliberately >> if you if you deliberately attack >> if you if you deliberately aiwoman that not classed as a a woman that is not classed as a hate we know unbearable. hate crime, we know unbearable. >> rebecca, with you >> rebecca, i agree with you about that. could be the about that. but it could be the thin of wedge. who thin end of the wedge. who decides this a no, no decides what this is a no, no sitting here talking about the grey again. the grey area again. rebecca the grey area again. rebecca the grey law means that grey area of the law means that it's judgement. it's someone's judgement. what misogyny could misogyny is, and they could argue the point of argue it clarifies the point of adaptation . let me just make adaptation. let me just make this point. >> the point of an let me make the point, which is up to interpretation. >> a in law joke could be >> a mother in law joke could be a crime. a hate crime. >> the point and that's the >> but the point and that's the
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danger and we know he wants danger and what we know he wants to do is reversible. adults going that's the risk. >> and reverse brexit what >> and reverse brexit is what he wants to do. >> they're not going or >> they're not going to win or lose the next election on what their views are on misogyny. i think very big think there are some very big issues modern britain issues that faces modern britain and in keir starmers speech, i don't think he did the detail of some of these big vision issues. justice and he got some of the details fundamentally wrong. so for example , i mean, he was very for example, i mean, he was very critical of rishi sunak annexe , critical of rishi sunak annexe, a notion that too many people are going to university . well, are going to university. well, actually, i think most universities think that. i chair a cambridge university foundation board and i, i know that it it it actually created pressures in, in the system and much more than that. 35% of graduates are in low skilled jobs. so they're not even getting the jobs once they've been to university . been to university. >> also changed his ideas. first of all, he's going to get rid of
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student fees and now he isn't. like i said, he's mr chop and change. >> but changing one of one of the big problems with the tories, like earlier , lee tories, like earlier, lee anderson was like, they've just nicked the thing michael nicked the thing that michael gove they're because gove said. yeah, they're because they're consumed by they're not so consumed by infighting . they say that infighting. they can say that was we'll have it was a good idea. we'll have it campaigning for jeremy corbyn. sensible for the sensible campaigning for the hamas corbyn hamas loving jeremy corbyn to become minister and then become prime minister and then expelling the party. expelling him from the party. >> that's a bit of a u—turn, isn't it? >> that's a bit of a u—turn, isn'yeah, he fixed it. he got rid >> yeah, he fixed it. he got rid of the crippling anti—semite at the head it. the head of it. >> out campaigning to >> i went out campaigning to have prime minister have him as your prime minister and rid of him. and then got rid of him. >> how else could he have got rid how else could rid of him? how else could he have of him? no have got rid of him? no >> he keeps changing. >> he keeps changing. >> how could have got >> how else could he have got rid him? rid of him? >> well, look, tell you >> well, look, i'll tell you what is all about. what the show is all about. opinions yours? gb what the show is all about. opini(cbnnews.com.rs? gb what the show is all about. opini(cbnnews.com.rs? panel gb what the show is all about. opini(cbnnews.com.rs? panel will news cbnnews.com. my panel will be be be back shortly. we'll be discussing the shock, resignation, discussing the shock, resingilloughby. put your holly willoughby. put your teeth back holly has back in. holly willoughby has left this morning, so we'll reflect on that very shortly. but of four has become the but a mum of four has become the latest to back latest citizen to fight back against lawless as tammy latest citizen to fight back againstook/less as tammy latest citizen to fight back againstook/lesslaw as tammy latest citizen to fight back againstook/lesslaw and as tammy latest citizen to fight back againstook/lesslaw and a tammy latest citizen to fight back againstook/lesslaw and a spadey dacre took the law and a spade
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into thwart into her own hands to thwart a vicious gang of bike thieves targeting outside her targeting a cyclist outside her worcestershire home. take a bow. ms dacre . what ms dacre. what. these toerags didn't hang around, did they? on your bike, lads ? coming up with proposals lads? coming up with proposals to label processed food as addictive. hot on the heels of rishi, sunak's plans to phase out smoking. are we the great british public now being treated like children? my panel thrashed that one out in the media buzz. we'll also discuss, as i said, holly willoughby's bombshell decision morning . decision to quit this morning. can show survive? and what can the show survive? and what will she do next? coming up, as sir keir starmer ignores the nation's frustration at the worsening war motorists worsening war on motorists promising to speed up the march to net zero. does this policy show that labour is out of touch with ordinary voters? i'll get
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stuck into that with author and top academic matt goodwin. let me tell you, he's a fascinating guy and he's .
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gb news radio . now after rishi gb news radio. now after rishi sunak used his speech at the tory party conference last week to declare that he would take a pragmatic approach to net zero, sir keir starmer has today pledged to do exactly the
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opposite. >> take a listen . >> take a listen. >> take a listen. >> when rishi sunak says row back on our climate mission, i say speed ahead . speed ahead say speed ahead. speed ahead with investing and speed ahead . with investing and speed ahead. >> with half a million jobs. speed ahead with great british energy , a new energy company energy, a new energy company that will harness clean british power for good british jobs . power for good british jobs. >> but with a recent poll revealing that nearly half of brits oppose climate policies that take money out of their pockets, the labour leader risks alienating voters with his full speed charge towards net zero. well, the academic and bestselling author matt goodwin joins me now. so, matt, does starmer's promise to speed up net zero show that labour is out of touch with ordinary voters . of touch with ordinary voters. >> well, mark, as you mentioned, our recent polling certainly showed that a large number of voters, especially in the red wall, feel very concerned about the growing costs of net zero.
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>> they're not comfortable with things like scrapping the ban on the sale of petrol and diesel cbi’s. >> cars. >> they're not comfortable with things like ulez. >> they're not comfortable with things like ulez . they're not things like ulez. they're not comfortable with some of the changes that are being proposed to people's houses in the years ahead. >> and of course, it's working class voters, mark, who are especially likely to be hit by many of these measures. the very voters that, of course, keir starmer is hoping to win back. >> so as i've said, i think this is going to become really is going to become a really big dividing british dividing line in british politics. yes. >> yes. i mean, spoke, didn't >> yes. i mean, he spoke, didn't he, several times . he, matthew, several times. multiple working multiple times about working people. but did he connect with them today or did he address their concerns ? i mean, for their concerns? i mean, for example, he didn't mention illegal or stopping illegal immigration or stopping the as well. the boats as well. >> that was one of the big surprises for me as well. >> i think if you look at where voters are in the country and this is something obviously i look it a lot as a pollster. look at it a lot as a pollster. immigration the top immigration is the third top issue voters . issue for all voters. >> it's the most important issue.
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>> mark, for 2019 conservatives, by the way. >> and it's a really big issue for working class voters up and down the country. and i was surprised to see firstly , surprised to see firstly, labour's plan on illegal migration. about two weeks ago it was very thin on the detail. keir starmer talked about smashing the gangs, but he didn't talk about having deterrent. >> he didn't talk about dealing with the longer term push factors. >> and then today in the speech he barely mentioned it at all. >> and to me that's a kind of sign that firstly labour are still not comfortable talking about migration. >> they know it's to going divide their base, they know it's going to divide their activists. secondly, i think activists. but secondly, i think smart. just haven't got the smart. they just haven't got the policy on yet. they haven't policy on it yet. they haven't got detail and i suspect got the detail and i suspect that's why immigration is going to massive issue at to become a massive issue at this general election this this general election around corner . around the corner. >> indeed. i mean, i was >> well, indeed. i mean, i was astonished at weekend astonished when at the weekend he victoria derbyshire on he told victoria derbyshire on the that he would axe the the bbc that he would axe the rwanda plan even if it's working . what is the strategy ?
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. what is the strategy? >> yeah, i mean, that's very cunous. curious. >> firstly, the national crime agency has already said that they think the only thing that would essentially work in stopping the small boats is having a deterrent policy . if having a deterrent policy. if you meet anybody in australia , you meet anybody in australia, for example, who successfully turned back the boats, they'll tell you you need an active deterrent. i suspect the european union will even get there in the years ahead , given there in the years ahead, given there in the years ahead, given the problems in the mediterranean . mediterranean. >> so for labour to say it would remove that deterrent, it would focus instead on smashing the gangs which every security analyst that i've spoken to and i've spoken to a lot over the last year say that, you know, it's a bit like whack a mole mark. >> you get rid of one smuggling gang and another pops up in its place. you're just dealing with the end of the problem. you're not the root cause not dealing with the root cause and causeis not dealing with the root cause and cause is we have to and the root cause is we have to persuade and show people who are thinking of making the journey why it's not worth their time making the journey. and that's why a deterrent ultimately is what we need. so i was surprised
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by keir starmer's stance . the by keir starmer's stance. the other thing briefly, mark, to mention, they didn't really say all that much about legal migration we know for migration and we know for voters, legal migration at 600,000 plus is now becoming an enormous issue to just the pace of change, the pace of churn in the country is something that is really alarming voters. >> well, most definitely. i mean, he made a welcome announcement today of 1.5 million houses, but that won't touch the sides if you've got annual legal migration of 600,000, will it? i agree with you about the importance of the issue of stop the boats. you know, legal and illegal migration into the country . the migration into the country. the other topic will be the cost of living . you've said that in your living. you've said that in your brilliant substack articles. it is inflation. it's about is about inflation. it's about how hard it people are how hard it is. people are struggling at moment. was struggling at the moment. was there on offer for there much on offer today for struggling brits in terms of the economy? from keir starmer ? economy? from keir starmer? >> mean , labour are talking >> i mean, labour are talking about trying to revive growth. they're talking about trying to
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incentivise business, trying to have a new relationship with business. but look on both the left and the right, something i talk about on twitter quite a bit, is, know, there's bit, mark, is, you know, there's not a serious strategy not really a serious strategy for reviving growth and productivity over the longer term. so that's why keir starmer's hard on housing. and just while we're here, mark, one thing to bear in mind, you know, labour are saying that they're going to build million and going to build a million and a half homes. here's something half new homes. here's something to keep in mind. the centre for policy studies estimated policy studies has estimated we're going to need to build 650,000 homes every year just to keep up with the demand for migration . so even if labour migration. so even if labour pulls off this pledge, you're looking at basically covering two housing for migration. >> so, you know, the longer term problems facing this country is, as i know you know, and we've talked about it before, are not being addressed by either the left or the right. >> and that is leaving many voters out there. i think, you know, voters aren't stupid. i think they're looking at this and they can sense nobody really has to long term
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has the answers to the long term problems. indeed notwithstanding your criticisms of what was missing from starmers speech today, does it matter? >> is this academic? have they won the election anyway ? are won the election anyway? are they and hosed ? they home and hosed? >> well, if you look at the polls in the recent by elections, especially the recent one scotland, labour are one in scotland, labour are outperforming their position in the national polls. they're doing better than the polls suggest the polls already suggest and the polls already suggest and the polls already suggest we're heading to a labour majority government. so look, if i was a betting man and labour majority government. so lnam if i was a betting man and labour majority government. so lnam when as a betting man and labour majority government. so lnam when it a betting man and labour majority government. so lnam when it comes ng man and labour majority government. so lnam when it comes to man and labour majority government. so lnam when it comes to elections, i am when it comes to elections, i am when it comes to elections, i would be betting labour i would be betting on labour winning the next general election. i give rishi sunak a 5% chance of turning it around . 5% chance of turning it around. we know that incumbent governments across the world, mark have been smashed by inflation. that is really the story of the next election, by the way. you know the politics of inflation. it's the fact voters are going into the supermarket looking at the receipt much , you receipt and saying how much, you know, are really, really know, they are really, really struggling. ultimately, it's struggling. and ultimately, it's incumbent governments get incumbent governments that get smashed in that context. and, you know, mark, the more that
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you know, mark, the more that you and i talk, the more think you and i talk, the more i think actually what the actually maybe that's what the conservative needs. maybe conservative party needs. maybe the party needs the conservative party needs a long opposition to long period in opposition to figure out what it is, what it believes, who it wants to win over and where it wants to take britain . over and where it wants to take briilast not least, what >> last but not least, what about the dreaded w word? matthew wokeism? could that give the conservatives an opportunity ? we know definition from sir keir starmer today of what a biological woman is. last week at conference, rishi sunak said at conference, rishi sunak said a man is a man. a woman is a woman. a man is a man. a woman is a woman . that's just common sense, woman. that's just common sense, that sort of sentiment has cut through with many voters, doesn't it ? doesn't it? >> i think it does. and i think rishi sunak did well to kind of park his tanks on the lawn of some of those issues. what was missing for me and i was in manchester was the detail. so it's fine to say a woman is a woman. a man is a man, but unless you're removing radical gender ideology from schools and universities, meaningless . universities, it's meaningless. it's fine to say britain is not a racist country and multiculturalism is a success
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story. but if you're not removing a divisive, critical race theory from schools and universities , it's meaningless. universities, it's meaningless. like if you're not clamping down on people who are celebrating in london, you know, a terrorist organisation like hamas that's been proscribed by the government. so i think lots of people are looking sunak and saying, yes, this all sounds very nice, right? it sounds like you're kind of on the side of common sense, where's common sense, but where's the detail? how are you actually going to push back against this? and if you look at what is proposing know, the proposing rac, you know, the racial of racial equality charter, some of the they've got the changes that they've got around schooling and around identity politics, this issue is only going to become more pressing for voters. it's going to become more salient. and i suspect then the conservatives really need to decide, are they up for this fight or are they going duck it? and if they going to duck it? and if they duck who's to going duck it, and who's to going replace actually replace them and actually take this on? >> you check out matt >> do you check out matt goodwin's excellent substack articles ? matthew j. goodwin.org articles? matthew j. goodwin.org or goodwin mj on twitter and his
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bookis or goodwin mj on twitter and his book is values, voice and virtue the new british politics. thanks matt. we'll catch up again soon. coming up in uncanceled, what impact would a labour government have on our rights to free speech? will it be five years of woke hell ? founder of the free woke hell? founder of the free speech union maverick journalist toby young join live to toby young will join me live to look future of our look at the future of our freedoms in britain. but next in the media buzz, can this morning survive without holly willoughby following the star's sensational exit the show? see you
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radio. >> okay . tomorrow's news tonight >> okay. tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz and more front pages have arrived courtesy of bobby. and let's see what we've got. okay. the guardian , an got. okay. the guardian, an israeli israeli troops mass on gaza border as hamas attack death toll hits 1000 and we will heal wounded britain. starmer promises . and he tells promises. and he tells despairing voters that he's got their back . the daily mail next.
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their back. the daily mail next. and the real reasons that holly's dramatically quit this morning by the writer who knows her best. and this was a holocaust , her best. and this was a holocaust, pure and simple. babies beheaded , 40 children babies beheaded, 40 children shot dead in a single settlement. families burned alive. sam greenhill, writer at the mail, meets survivors of the hamas death squads and hears their stories of unimak winnable horror , telling half next and horror, telling half next and old hamas massacres baby liz and children families found murdered in their homes as israeli death toll reaches 1000 starmer's time toll reaches 1000 starmer's time to shine photograph there of the leader of the opposition would be prime minister keir starmer being showered in glitter by a ironically democracy protestor. he wants proportional representation, unusual that he didn't take a democratic way of expressing his view. gas prices surge as russia suspected of
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sabotage ing pipeline is the other story in the telegraph . other story in the telegraph. well, let's get reaction now from my top pundits. we have former cabinet minister and gb news star esther mcvey, banker and visiting professor derek lord and author and journalist rebecca reid . now, the dust rebecca reid. now, the dust hasn't even settled on rishi sunaks announcement of a smoking ban policy last week , and ban policy last week, and already calls are growing for processed foods like ready meals and fizzy drinks to be labelled addictive. it comes after research has found that 14% of adults and 12% of kids are hooked on ultra processed foods . so what do we think about this with yet more nanny state overreach? are the public being treated like children ? what do treated like children? what do you think? >> well , i'm you think? >> well, i'm more you think? >> well , i'm more concerned >> well, i'm more concerned about a happiness index rather than a sourness index. i'm all in favour of people peddling death in whatever way they like, whether it's through smoking or whether it's through smoking or whether it's through eating jam doughnuts . but i have to admit, doughnuts. but i have to admit, occasionally i do both. so i
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think i'm probably your body's temple. >> i'm probably in good company, but i also exercise , you know, but i also exercise, you know, and i think that that's what we should actually try and make people understand exercise size is a fantastic thing for the mind and for the body. >> and i'm not in favour of governments interfering any more than they have to. but finally, i should say there is , and i should say there is, and rightly so, concern about the £6.5 billion pounds that it's costing the nhs through associated obesity disease. >> indeed, taichi diabetes, blood pressure, heart disease , blood pressure, heart disease, all the rest of it, by the way, depression and dementia potentially as well. indeed. rebecca for the public aren't stupid . they don't need a label stupid. they don't need a label on a packet of pringles that says rather addictive. says these are rather addictive. >> , i agree. and i think >> no, i agree. and i think anyone eaten pringle >> no, i agree. and i think anyon(know eaten pringle >> no, i agree. and i think anyon(know that. zn pringle >> no, i agree. and i think anyon(know that. but pringle >> no, i agree. and i think anyon(know that. but pthink�* would know that. but i think and i'm very once you i'm very, very proud once you p0p, i'm very, very proud once you pop, can't stop. and to be pop, you can't stop. and to be fair, pringles tell you that like label say that. like the label does say that. but very much in favour but no, i'm very much in favour of people being able to smoke as much want, drink much much as they want, drink as much
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as whatever bad as they want, eat whatever bad things or not bad things they want or not bad because we shouldn't moralise about processed about food, but highly processed foods. i'm not foods. my only issue is i'm not sure people understand and about the of the carcinogenic side of processed food. and i think if, you don't eat chinese you know, don't eat chinese well. well, if you're eating like a of lovely homemade like a sort of lovely homemade chinese absolutely. if you're chinese. absolutely. if you're eating something that's been through eating something that's been th|geth eating something that's been th| get h then eating something that's been th|get h then no eating something that's been th|geth then no . and i to get to you, then no. and i just like people to have just i like people to have informed and therefore, informed consent. and therefore, if something if you're eating something carcinogenic highly carcinogenic because it's highly processed and think processed sausages and you think that have that actually if you have sausages with of sausages with a bit of vegetables, you're doing good vegetables, you're doing a good job, that's not the government aren't doing their job. aren't quite doing their job. they're about education. yes >> esther, you are >> i mean, esther, you are a dyed the libertarian, dyed in the wool libertarian, aren't you be pleased aren't you? you can't be pleased with these syntaxes and with all of these syntaxes and labelling and all with all of these syntaxes and lab(restg and all with all of these syntaxes and lab(rest of and all with all of these syntaxes and lab(rest of it. and all the rest of it. >> i think if i want an ice cream and i do have a sweet tooth and i do like my chocolate andice tooth and i do like my chocolate and ice cream, then i have and ice cream, then i will have it. it's everything in it. but it's everything in moderation it's moderation that's what it's about. about the about. it's not about the product. it's probably the quantity in which you eat that product that is a bit about self responsibility, knowing what you can also education on can have, and also education on what you should eat well a
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what you should eat well is a label, is a label. >> is a label a form >> education is a label a form of education. when you buy of education. so when you buy that packet of crisps it that packet of crisps and it says is an ultra processed that packet of crisps and it says it's n ultra processed that packet of crisps and it says it's addictive, ycessed that packet of crisps and it says it's addictive, ycethat helpful? >> that's already on >> well, that's already on there. but actually, i mean, when school, when when you go to school, when you're up, parents you're growing up, my parents would to me, yes, if you would say to me, yes, if you have of chocolate, don't have a bar of chocolate, don't forget an apple or all forget to have an apple or all of but you can you of these things. but you can you know, is the greediness of these things. but you can you kn0\eating the greediness of these things. but you can you kn0\eating the ratherness of these things. but you can you kn0\eating the rather than and eating too much rather than that. mean, we can have i'm that. i mean, we can have i'm not going to a 99 and not going to have a 99 and instead of the it's going instead of the flake, it's going to warning warning. to be a health warning warning. think before you a think twice before you have a lick the ice cream. you can lick of the ice cream. you can get a 98 or 97. >> anyway, anyway, where are >> and anyway, anyway, where are the parents in all this? >> i think. >> i think. >> but the thing is, you can only tell them, you know, i agree, but can only teach agree, but you can only teach your children what you already know. i think the know. and if you and i think the bigger is people used know. and if you and i think the bighave is people used know. and if you and i think the bighave one is people used know. and if you and i think the bighave one is [across used know. and if you and i think the bighave one is [across thed to have one packet across the stop and now people eat four. and about being unhappy and that's about being unhappy and wanting fill and that's about wanting to fill and that's about wanting to fill a void. >> why are we banning >> and why are we banning and i'm for not taxing. that's all about and banning about a money grab and banning telling and telling people what to do and you then and you go to prohibition then and i'll be making chocolate in my
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basement i'll be making chocolate in my bas derek. a great point >> derek raises a great point which it seems these days which is it seems these days it's the government that's raising our and raising our kids and the government telling how government that's telling us how to suspect it's a to live. and i suspect it's a hangover the pandemic. hangover from the pandemic. well, let's move on, well, look, let's move on, because showbiz holly because big showbiz news, holly willoughby sensationally willoughby has sensationally quit morning, quit her this morning, presenting after 14 years. presenting role after 14 years. she said in an instagram post, i've let itv know today that after 14 years, i will not be returning to this morning to everyone who's ever worked on the the years. thank the show over the years. thank you so, so much. she goes on to say, been an honour just say, it's been an honour to just be this and be part of this story, and i know story has many know this story has many chapters to go. sadly, chapters left to go. sadly, however, now have to however, i now feel i have to make for me and make this decision for me and my family . i miss all so family. i will miss you all so much . esther, you had a very much. esther, you had a very successful career in television before you went into politics. channel five and elsewhere . channel five and elsewhere. brilliant broadcaster five's company, lots of other things as well that you did . i think this well that you did. i think this is a big moment, actually, for the country. this is one of the best presenters best known presenters in britain, she's one of britain, and she's quit one of the shows . the biggest shows. >> well, i'm glad it's so >> oh, well, i'm glad it's so affecting you. it isn't actually
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affecting you. it isn't actually affecting me whatsoever . affecting me whatsoever. although i will say, i mean, there was a bit of morning when richard and judy left. i mean, they were there. the show survived. survive. once survived. it was survive. once holly's you holly's gone. and i bet you holly's gone. and i bet you holly will be back with some big night—time show. i'm betting you she's going to do just fine. >> but, you know, showbiz inside out and that american adage, don't quit the hits . oh, what is don't quit the hits. oh, what is she struggles to find a format that suits her. could she come to regret this? because this morning is an established brand and got millions of and it's got millions of viewers. she's taking a viewers. i think she's taking a risk . risk. >> this going to shock you. >> this is going to shock you. this you. this is going to shock you. i think got her think she's already got her night—time show. i think she will seamlessly between will sail seamlessly between this morning. will anyone watching? yes, of course they will. oh, look, you know, i think i think she's lovely. i think, as you say, she's a great presenter. i think she knew the time was the show was over. time was up. the show was over. she's moved on. and i'm quite sure with her brand's and everything else that she does and she'll get another tv show. lots people like her.
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lots of people like her. >> do you think she'll try to come to gb news? >> i mean, i bet you she's been knocking of that. >> would great. yeah, >> that would be great. yeah, there might be some vacancies knocking there might be some vacancies kno i'veg no there might be some vacancies knoi'veg no doubt. she's been >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsapping about. >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsa tellg about. >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsa tell you. about. >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsa tell you. i about. >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsa tell you. i just about. >> i've got no doubt. she's been whatsa tell you. i just say ut. let me tell you. can i just say that the schedule is full? there's no space here. got there's no space here. we've got a and now a line up of stars. and now look, got derek lord. look, we've got derek lord. we've what? another stupid we've just. what? another stupid star you are. star signing you are. >> i was going tell >> i was just going to tell you a to going a newsflash. i'm to going self—identify as white. >> i'm a woman. i'm blonde on blonde on blonde. >> i am her replacement. >> i am her replacement. >> do it. >> do it. >> listen, i would actually watch that. i love that. >> you don't have to change a thing about yourself. >> no. i think a blonde wig. >> oh, no. i think a blonde wig. nothing else, just blonde. nothing else, just a blonde. >> good about >> would you be good about talking recipes talking about pasta recipes and swimsuits things that? swimsuits and things like that? >> yeah. ever not? >> yeah. ever not? >> can you to hung >> can you pretend to be hung over the national over after the national television they television awards? because they do have got do that every year. have you got opinions menopause opinions about the menopause and such? listen. what i'll do is >> no, i listen. what i'll do is i'll bring you up to speed . i'll bring you up to speed. >> i think you're just way too into this, if you don't mind me saying. are you a holly willoughby superfan?
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>> i think. think it is >> look, i think. i think it is an iconic show this morning. started judy. can started by richard and judy. can it in her absence, it survive in her absence, rebecca? >> honestly , daytime tv, >> honestly, daytime tv, particularly this particularly shows like this morning, a form of social morning, are a form of social care. remember i had care. and i remember when i had no honestly, when had very no honestly, when i had a very small was very lonely small baby and i was very lonely and the and couldn't leave the sofa. they my pseudo they became like my pseudo family important. family and they're important. it's you were stuck it's honestly, if you were stuck at day, you need them. at home all day, you need them. you don't think. >> don't think without >> they don't think without holly that this morning could come holly that this morning could con no, i think biggest the >> no, i think the biggest the show go on. show must go on. >> biggest thing was moving >> the biggest thing was moving from to london. from the albert dock to london. i was surprised the show survived that. >> really? but they have a fake background. it's got the river behind era for richard. >> judy, wasn't that honestly united kingdom in the water doing the weather with the old the cheeky man more the cheeky weather man yes more cheeky realise , but cheeky than we realise, but there you go. >> that's that's story . >> that's that's another story. i always listen. there you go. what think? do you care? what do you think? do you care? holly willoughby has quit this morning. one thing, morning. let me say one thing, though, record. she's though, on the record. she's been awful lot and been through an awful lot and a very, very traumatic few weeks. so definitely wish her and so we definitely wish her and the and hope she
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the family well. and i hope she has every success in the future . has every success in the future , more to come. but , folks. lots more to come. but let me tell you what it's going to be. daniel radcliffe and victoria beckham are nominated as the greatest britain and union jackass find out why. but next in uncanceled , what impact next in uncanceled, what impact would a labour government have on our right to free speech? founder of the free speech union, maverick journalist toby young will join me live to look at the future of our freedoms in this country. five years this country. could five years of labour be five years of woke hell? find after this .
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look a few of you very concerned about this attack on keir starmer, and you're absolutely right, by the way, because he's the leader of the opposition. these politicians . they these are politicians. they ought be safe. this from pip ought to be safe. this from pip who says, hi, mark. much as i can't stomach the man, i'd hate to repeat happened to see a repeat of what happened to see a repeat of what happened to amis in regards to keir
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to david amis in regards to keir starmer , the with the glitter starmer, the with the glitter might just as easily have held a weapon and it shows that security teams surrounding mps need to get their act together. pip, agree with you pip, i couldn't agree with you more, but let me see if i got something. i've got something on holly willoughby. which is that . it's from eileen. hi, mark. i don't think holly will be missed at all. i haven't watched the programme phil left programme since phil left because disgusted with because i was disgusted with what she said about him. how dare she holier than thou? he dare she be holier than thou? he did nothing and was all did nothing wrong and it was all his business. i love if his own business. i love it if he came back, says elaine. there you go . well, it's all about you go. well, it's all about opinions. let me have yours. mark gb news dot com. it's mark at gb news dot com. it's time for our cancelled . and time now for our cancelled. and as we heard earlier tonight , as we heard earlier tonight, keir starmer vowed to deliver a britain built to last during his speech at the labour party conference. but does that include the right to free speech? starmer said in october 2022. it's time for tougher hate crime laws. so every lgbt+ crime is treated as an aggravated offence. labour has previously
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pledged to impose harsher sentences on those who commit hate crimes targeted at someone's sexual identity. trans gender identity or disability, as well as misogyny. but a report by the institute of economic affairs think tank claims legislation would pose serious implications for freedom of speech in the uk . well, who of speech in the uk. well, who better to ask than the founder of the free speech union and the editor and founder of the daily sceptic online newspaper journalist and broadcaster toby young . hi toby. now the tories young. hi toby. now the tories have presided over a rise in cancel culture kerbs on free speech and of course the de—banking scandal. will it get worse under labour ? worse under labour? >> regrettably, mark, i think it probably will get worse under laboun probably will get worse under labour. keir starmer has already said , as you quoted earlier, said, as you quoted earlier, that he wants to make every crime against lgbtq+ people and aggravated an aggravated offence i.e. aggravated an aggravated offence le. a hate crime, and that may include hate speech , which i
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include hate speech, which i think in all likelihood one of the first pieces of legislation a new labour government will pass will be a hate crime and pubuc pass will be a hate crime and public order in england and wales. >> act, but which will mirror the hate crime and public order scotland act, which received royal assent in scotland in 2021, but which imposes probably the most draconian speech restrictions in europe in scotland that'll be activated next year. and the law commission of england and wales have already recommended that a similar bill, an almost identical bill to the bill that passed in scotland is introduced in england and wales. i'm sure the next labour government will do concern that do that. another concern is that they'll follow through on the recommendation portions of the leveson inquiry. recommendation portions of the leveson inquiry . as you'll leveson inquiry. as you'll recall, one of the recommendations is that state, state licencing of the press whereby unless you are regulated by an official state regulator,
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impress then you'll suffer all sorts of penalties , thereby sorts of penalties, thereby forcing all newspapers and magazine publishers to register either with a state regulator . either with a state regulator. that's that hasn't happened in this country for over 200 years. that'll be a major blow to press freedom. i think labour's race equality act looks pretty bad . equality act looks pretty bad. um, it may well try and turn any denial of critical race theory into hate speech and prosecute people accordingly. there are various clauses of the equality act which haven't been activated. they're lying dormant on the statute books. one of them was described by polly toynbee with a salivating mouth as is socialism in one clause which would impose a public duty on local authorities to ensure not just that people aren't discriminated against for reasons of race, sexual
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orientation, religion, but to do everything in their power to try and reduce socioeconomic equality gaps , equality of equality gaps, equality of outcome . and no doubt that will outcome. and no doubt that will have implications for what people are free to say as well. and finally, mark, i think a big concern is that given that ofcom has been granted all these new powers over social media, it's effectively become the british social media regulator and the head of ofcom is appointed by the secretary of state. you know, the culture of the dcms , know, the culture of the dcms, in all likelihood labour will take advantage of ofcom's new powers to try and silence dissenting speech on platforms like twitter, facebook, etcetera i >> well indeed, in countries like canada now you've got the government more or less policing the internet with perfectly mainstream videos and podcasts, not available in that country. you're right to mention critical race theory . the reason why it's race theory. the reason why it's so contentious is it goes against martin luther's martin luther king's idea of a colour—blind and society and of
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course, then you've got the issue of could it be a hate crime misgender someone crime to misgender someone except that misgender except that if you misgender someone, are stating someone, you are stating biological which i would biological fact, which i would suggest briefly suggest is problematic. briefly before you go, toby, normally and historically , censorship has and historically, censorship has been the domain of the right, hasn't it? christian conservatives mary whitehouse films and songs being banned for being too raunchy or blasphemous. but of late it seems that it's the left who are pushing for it. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. i think the conventional wisdom on the left not just here, but in america, across the western world, was that the best remedy for bad speech , for false remedy for bad speech, for false speech, was to not silence it, but more and better speech that was known as the counter speech doctrine and was set out in a famous supreme court case in the 1920s and that held sway until about 2016. and there's been a real retreat from the counter speech doctrine since then. and now the prevailing consensus
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amongst the left, ifjust now the prevailing consensus amongst the left, if just got cut off, we just lost you. >> we've lost you. just finish your point. if you can, toby, because the clock's against us. we've lost toby, but not not a victim of a crackdown on free speech. let me tell you. do check out toby's excellent website, the daily skeptiko .uk . okay, let's have esther's fantastic union union, jack and great britain . let's start with great britain. let's start with your greatest britain. esther. it is noah beer. >> and she is a british hero who managed to escape that festival mass hacker in israel and saved the lives of four fellow revellers as she rammed her car through the hamas roadblock, dodging a shower of bullets, driving straight to hospital to help two of the wounded passengers in her car. there you go. >> okay . a nomination and >> okay. a nomination and a sentence from you, please, derek, for your greatest britain, victoria beckham, who needs no introduction , married needs no introduction, married to david and she starred superbly on a document on the
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beckhams recently on television and their near neighbours of mine in the country. oh, glad to hear your friends. how about you, rebecca? your greatest britain. >> mine is daniel radcliffe, who this week gave a very moving interview about becoming a new father and sort of admitting that terrifying, but that it was terrifying, but giving hope giving a real sense of hope about fatherhood . about modern fatherhood. >> guy. i once sat >> he's a nice guy. i once sat on his sat on his packet of cigarettes. he didn't complain, i'm give esther, i'm going to give it to esther, a brilliant, brilliant nomination that young woman, nomination for that young woman, noah who escaped hamas noah beer, who escaped hamas terrorism. briefly , if you terrorism. okay, briefly, if you can, esther , your union jack can, esther, your union jack jackassit can, esther, your union jack jackass it has to be the security team at the labour party conference. >> how on earth did they let a protester get that close to secure? absolutely derek. >> it has to be. >> it has to be. >> angela rayner we are in danger of making her britain's next deputy prime minister. if people are stupid enough to vote labour at the next election and i don't want to see that happen, i don't want to see that happen, i will say i think she probably had a better chance of winning the starmer, but
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the election than starmer, but i take point. take your point. >> your union >> rebecca, briefly, your union jackass is the soap shop jackass mine is the soap shop lush for posting this sign on, which incredibly insensitive. >> it's just not the moment to be trying to stir up hatred even further than it already exists to you. >> right. well, i'm going to give it to for that give it to lush for that ridiculous sign. sure the ridiculous sign. i'm sure the company have disowned that message store manager or message from a store manager or employee, message from a store manager or empldone to my wonderful well done to my wonderful pundits. back . at pundits. tonight. i am back. at oh, by the way, let me tell you that we have heard. okay i have a response from lush. we are a diverse company with staff of all nationalities and religions whose personal views and opinions however, opinions may vary. however, the following is our company position. is position. lush's stance is always deplore all always that we deplore all violence and all injustice. our wishes for peace and for wishes for peace and safety for all. palestinian all. israeli and palestinian people. we support the upholding of international law and the human rights all peoples. human rights of all peoples. that their response . that is their response. brilliant stuff. thanks for my panel brilliant stuff. thanks for my panel. i'm back friday at panel. i'm back on friday at nine. here tomorrow . nine. patrick's here tomorrow. headune nine. patrick's here tomorrow. headline is next. thanks headline is this next. thanks for . for your company. >> again. it's aidan >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met
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office with the news office with the gb news forecast. moving south into forecast. rain moving south into northern england , northern northern england, northern ireland and wales overnight. clearer but staying blustery for scotland. whilst it remains warm in the far south, there's a significant temperature contrast across the uk at the moment . across the uk at the moment. warmth in the south—east, chilly in the north and northwest and between a band of rain. finally easing across central and western scotland , pushing into western scotland, pushing into southern scotland during the evening , northern and evening, northern ireland and then on across parts of then later on across parts of northern england and wales. the rain pepping up by the end of the night in these areas as well. now it stays dry further south, there'll a lot of south, but there'll be a lot of low and mist to begin low cloud and mist to begin things on wednesday, mild things on wednesday, a mild start a chilly start start here, but a chilly start for especially central for scotland, especially central belt and a strong wind, in figures and a strong wind, in fact, gales blowing through exposed northern and northwestern coasts with frequent showers here. so a fairly unpleasant day to come here, even if it has stopped raining further south. we've got spells of rain through wales, the midlands and east anglia continuing through the day,
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staying largely dry after the early mist clears in far early mist clears in the far south and southeast, warm south and southeast, still warm , not warm as it has been , but not as warm as it has been . and then it's the south . and then it's in the south where comes stop where the rain comes to a stop on thursday . the rain does ease, on thursday. the rain does ease, but it stays fairly drizzly along some of these southern counties england. counties of england. brighter skies further north. in fact, a nice sunny day for north wales, northern of northern england, much of scotland and northern ireland. and on friday, further wet and then on friday, further wet weather in the south before that clears colder weather at the clears to colder weather at the weekend . weekend. >> who is it? >> who is it? >> we're here for the show . for >> we're here for the show. for energy this time. >> welcome to the dinosaur hour i >>i -- >> i was married to a therapist i >> yeah. and you survived. >> yeah. and you survived. >> i thought we were getting hugh laurie, second best man . at least. >> you interviewed saddam hussein. what's that like? i was terrified. i'm playing strip poker with these three. >> oh, no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> my cds need to be put in alphabetical order. >> oh, are you going to be
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you with gb news and our top story tonight, the us president has condemned attacks by hamas on israel , vowing to have on israel, vowing to have israel's back.
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>> joe biden was speaking about two hours ago in the white house. well, the hamas terrorist group has been firing missiles throughout the day. earlier warning residents in the southern israeli city of ashkelon to leave their homes. israel's anti—missile system was used to intercept much of the incoming rocket fire. joe biden saying hamas's attack is an act of sheer evil . of sheer evil. >> this attack is brought to the surface. painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of anti—semitism and genocide of the jewish people . so in this the jewish people. so in this moment, we must be crystal clear. we stand with israel . we clear. we stand with israel. we stand with israel . and we will stand with israel. and we will make sure israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens and defend itself and respond to this attack . respond to this attack. >> well, the rocket attacks have been continuing all day. and in

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