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the gb newsroom. headlines from the gb newsroom. an agreement has been reached to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing today . the united crossing today. the united states has negotiated with israel, egypt and qatar to open the border crossing from southern gaza into egypt . this southern gaza into egypt. this will allow people to flee and perhaps for humanity , an aid perhaps for humanity, an aid much needed aid to come in. they're working to open that corridor for five hours this afternoon . these are the latest afternoon. these are the latest pictures from gaza city. the palestinian health ministry say at least 2269 palestinians have been killed and almost 10,000 wounded due to israeli attacks in the gaza strip and the west bank. you can perhaps see that smoke rising over the northern part of gaza where the airstrikes have been continuing and where people are trying to flee to safety and find refuge. israeli defence forces have been
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carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory. now this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's hamas atrocities. israel's air force now say it has killed ali caddy, the senior hamas commander who led that cross—border terrorist attack on israeli settlements. a week ago today. israel says that hamas is still holding at least 120 captives . the united nations is captives. the united nations is warning that over 2 million people are at risk as water runs out and humanity , korean aid is out and humanity, korean aid is blocked from going into gaza. airstrikes on gaza city have flattened, sections destroyed , flattened, sections destroyed, buildings killed and injured yet more people. a palestinian rescue team was hit by a missile while they were attempting to care for the wounded. amongst the rubble . the israeli military the rubble. the israeli military says it is destroying hamas targets in its strike and has
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killed dozens from hamas . well killed dozens from hamas. well casualties are being brought to hospitals in south gaza as tens of thousands of people struggle to flee the shelling. they have just a matter of hours, say israeli defence forces, to get out of gaza city. israeli journalist yotam confino has told gb news that if those being told gb news that if those being told to move do not do so, the death toll could rise to much higher numbers as well. >> the latest is that there were just rockets fired over tel aviv , so i had to run for shelter just a couple of minutes ago. but course , there is another but of course, there is another situation which is more focussed on right now, and that is gaza, which is experiencing heavy bombardment by israel and israel is of course encouraging civilians to move from the northern part of the gaza strip to the southern part. and i was just on an idf briefing, a military briefing, where they said they announced two said that they had announced two safe corridors where people can move safely for around six
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hours. and, of course , they're hours. and, of course, they're hoping civilians will do that because if they don't, the death toll in gaza will rise significantly . significantly. >> meanwhile, the israeli army says it's looking into an incident involving a reuters journalist who died in in southern lebanon . issam abdallah southern lebanon. issam abdallah was killed on friday when missiles struck him and a group of other journalists. they were working in alma al—shaab near the northern israeli border where the israeli military and hezbollah, another proscribed terrorist group, have been exchanging fire. six other journalists were injured. the un secretary—general says the incident shows the danger of the violence spreading. >> i want to say how much this demonstrates the enormous risk of spill—over of this conflict back here. >> un counter—terrorism police have called on the public to report terrorist content they see online follow showing the attack by hamas on israel. the
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force says a 55 new cases this week following a significant number of referrals from the pubuc number of referrals from the public reporting potential terrorist content online. dominic murphy, the head of the met's counter terrorism command, says following last week's terrorist attack by hamas , there terrorist attack by hamas, there had been significant concern in communities in london and across the country. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism legislation . breach uk terrorism legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism. bbc bbc presenter victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene where you can clearly see the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcasting house. she filmed those images as she arrived for work earlier . the arrived for work earlier. the met police said the incident has not yet been linked to any protest group . australia protest group. australia australia has voted no in a
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controversial referendum to officially recognise indigenous people in its constitution through the creation of an indigenous advisory body . the indigenous advisory body. the voice to parliament. with half of the vote counted , the no of the vote counted, the no vote, led by 57% leading australian broadcaster to predict that at least four states as a final outcome against alter . the 122 year old against alter. the 122 year old constitution . this is gb news constitution. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car and on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now. now it's back to gb news now. now it's back to gb news . saturday news. saturday >> thank you very much for that update, pip. okay, let's get stuck now into today's big topics. tens of thousands of civilians in the gaza strip are fleeing south after israel gave palestinians living there. just 24 hours to flee. yesterday the idf told over 1 24 hours to flee. yesterday the idf told over1 million gazans
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to flee from the northern half of the strip to south of wadi gaza. the united nations says the order is horrendous before the order is horrendous before the order. over 400,000 palestinians have been displaced due to fighting and the death toll in gaza from israeli airstrikes has risen to over 1900. israeli prime minister netanyahu said last night that the week long bombardment of gaza was , quote, only the gaza was, quote, only the beginning and boisvenu by otzma . beginning and boisvenu by otzma. >> we are striking at our enemies with unprecedented might i emphasise this is just the beginning. our enemies have only begun paying the price . beginning. our enemies have only begun paying the price. i beginning. our enemies have only begun paying the price . i won't begun paying the price. i won't detail what is yet to come , but detail what is yet to come, but i tell you this is only the beginning . beginning. >> well, now it's time for a full update to our reporter charlie peters , who is live in charlie peters, who is live in tel aviv , joining us now. hello tel aviv, joining us now. hello to you , charlie. so just two to you, charlie. so just two hours to go now until the safe routes close . what's the mood on
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routes close. what's the mood on the ground ? well, that's the ground? well, that's significant development coming in the last half hour that the americans, qataris and israelis and egyptians have come together to agree the opening of the rafah crossing into egypt , away rafah crossing into egypt, away from the conflict zone. >> this is a big step because as the idf yesterday gave people in gaza just 24 hours notice to move south, many international observers such as the un and the international red cross said that such a move was impossible. 1.1 million people heading down just two supply routes in a time of conflict and devastation was always going to be a significant challenge. so this morning they they extended that time by six hours. that will end in the next couple of hours . but this new couple of hours. but this new supply route sorry, this new route, the safe crossing into egypt, it will be a big difference. and i think that's the main effect of american diplomacy on the ground here, because as international observers watch as israel poises
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itself for that ground invasion into gaza , there is concern that into gaza, there is concern that the israeli military will not stick by the need for a proportionality in the law of armed conflict. that is a most important value in any conflict and trying to flatten hamas military targets with advanced munitions such as bunker busting munitions such as bunker busting munitions that break into the ground and try and destroy those shelters while 1.1 million people are still embedded within that territory, that would not be proportional. that's what many commentators and analysts in the region are saying . and so in the region are saying. and so this safe crossing that will extend the opportunity for civilians to flee. however we do know last night that hamas claimed that 70 people were killed in an israeli airstrike on a convoy of civilians heading south. we've yet to verify that claim , but we have seen the claim, but we have seen the footage and it's clear that something devastating has happened and many lives were lost. the circumstances remain unclear and the idf say that they are not aware of any israeli airstrikes occurring for
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that incident at that time. but yeah , the main headline at the yeah, the main headline at the moment very much that opening of that safe crossing for more people to get away from the carnage, which is going to ramp up in the north of the gaza strip. >> okay. thanks for that update, charlie. and of course, we'll be coming back to you throughout the show. thanks for that. joining me now through the show today former head today in studio is former head of at the of counterterrorism at the ministry defence. major ministry of defence. major general chip chapman me general chip chapman gives me huge delight to have in the huge delight to have you in the studio. also , another studio. chip also, another significant news moment here. it's very important that ali cardi, who's been reported as the hamas commander who led the cross—border insurgency , the cross—border insurgency, the attack, the terrorist attack on israeli settlements last saturday been killed in saturday has been killed in a targeted drone attack. how significant do you think that is in as far as the pr win not only have taken out someone so key so soon, but also a very highly targeted, efficient attack without the risk of greater further collateral damage of
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civilians? >> i think the bigger issue is where he stands in terms of the hostages, because, of course, he was one of the prisoners, a thousand prisoners, palestinian prisoners who were swapped for one israeli soldier, qalat . and one israeli soldier, qalat. and at the moment we've got 153 israeli and foreign nationals in the bag. what it does show you, though, is two things. firstly the power of israeli intelligence and secondly, the precision of their striking to take out these targets. that is what they want to do to try and remain on the moral high ground and keep up their sort of code of the international law on their side , because this is their side, because this is always a battle of competing narratives. so that's the first thing. the second thing is i don't think that the deadline will be over at 2:00. i think because of the intervention of the qataris, the egyptians, israelis and the us , i think israelis and the us, i think that will be pushed to the right. and it's an interesting position from the perspective of the egyptians, because the egyptians do have a normalised
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relationship with israel. and indeed, you know, president sadat was killed for normalising that relationship, which shows us some of the tensions in the middle east themselves between sunnl middle east themselves between sunni, sunni splits and sunni shia splits . so what the shia splits. so what the egyptians would really prefer is humanitarian aid to come into the gaza strip because what people often forget about the hamas is that it is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, which is a very hard line sunni group. and they would like to overthrow what they see as all the apostate regimes in the middle east, which includes president al—sisi in egypt. >> we have live pictures on the screen there of the continuing devastation in gaza . and it's devastation in gaza. and it's just been announced actually , just been announced actually, chip, that the ali saudi was actually one of the prisoners freed in 2011 as a prisoner swap. so previously incarcerated and released and then went to on lead that attack into israel last saturday. extraordinary thank you, chip. we'll come back to you throughout the show.
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okay. now closer to home now, thousands of people have taken to the streets of to london march in a pro—palestinian demo . march in a pro—palestinian demo. castration. police have warned that anyone showing support for hamas or deviating from the agreed route could face immediate arrest. well, joining me now is gb news political correspondents catherine forster a live from the demo which i believe catherine is just forming up around the portal and place region of london, just behind regent street. then it will go through regent street to whitehall. so how many people are gathering up and what's the mood on the ground? catherine well , many hundreds of people well, many hundreds of people all ready gathered here. >> they will be marching down, leaving probably at about 12:45, processing down to finish in whitehall at around 3:00. >> i was just talking to the police a little bit earlier. they are expecting about 10,000 protesters. the weather is good. it's a dry day. they've got 1000
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police here on duty. there's armed police. there's police on horseback now talking to protesters as just a few minutes ago . some people don't want to ago. some people don't want to talk to the media at all on or off camera. another lady was saying she didn't have any palestinian family , but she just palestinian family, but she just feels that the palestinian ins have had a really dreadful deal for a very, very long time. have had a really dreadful deal for a very, very long time . and for a very, very long time. and another and another sorry, it's just another camera crew barging into me and another lady who just walked past said , please just walked past said, please tell people we want to end the apartheid. we are not haters . apartheid. we are not haters. what they're saying is end the violence and end what they call the apartheid. they feel that 2.3 million people are living in gaza, basically have been effectively prisoners for many years now. of course, has told over a million people to get out of the north something that the united nations has condemned. and we know, too, now , don't we, and we know, too, now, don't we,
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that 70 people died trying to flee . we know, too, that just flee. we know, too, that just under 2000 people have died in gaza since hamas carried out that horrific attack. just exactly a week ago. and about 1300 is reilly's have died now in other countries in france , in in other countries in france, in germany, they have taken the step of banning pro—palestine protests entirely . didn't work protests entirely. didn't work out very well in france. they carried one out. in any case, they were attacked with tear gas. but here they want to let people have their say . the people have their say. the police fly. a palestinian flag is no issue. what the police are looking for is any hamas flags, any flags specifically giving support to hamas proscribed terror organisation or to hezbollah. but feelings running very high. a woman on the
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megaphone phone chanting free, free palestine, israel is a terror state. so a difficult day for people with relatives . gaza for people with relatives. gaza people worried sick about what's happening to them and also an extremely difficult day for the jewish community here in great britain who've been subject to an increasing number of anti—semitic attacks . anti—semitic attacks. >> okay, catherine forster, thanks for that update. that march goes on for the next three hours. we'll be covering it right the show on gb right throughout the show on gb news saturday. if anything kicks off, sure to be there . off, we'll be sure to be there. let's continue talking about that the that now because as the pro—palestinian demonstration marches through streets of marches through the streets of london, has banned london, there, france has banned all pro—palestinian protests to try and ease tensions and clamp down on anti—semitism. at the hamas terror attacks in israel. well, joining me now to discuss this is political commentator matthew stadlen and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. matthew, i'd like to start with you. 10,000 people expected on the streets of london today.
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only one week since the terrorist attack, the brutal murders , kidnappings, the murders, kidnappings, the tortures that were going on in israel at the hands of hamas , israel at the hands of hamas, quite simply, is this kind of demonstration today just one week on, is it appropriate ? it's week on, is it appropriate? it's really difficult question to answer this. >> i have jewish heritage. as i've said before , on gb news, my i've said before, on gb news, my grandparents were jewish refugees and what happened last weekend, whether you were jewish or whether you're muslim, whether you're neither of those things were acts of mediaeval savagery that belonged in the middle ages. and it has been a traumatic time. i think, for jewish communities in this country and around the world. so from the outset , i want to say from the outset, i want to say that anything that is remotely anti—semitic on the streets of this country or indeed online should be clamped down upon by the police. and these
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demonstrations, when they go ahead, need to be properly policed . it should we ban policed. it should we ban demonstrators in this country? no should we ban the palestinian flag as suella braverman seemed almost to be intimating we should know what she said in her letter to police this week was that circumstances , context that circumstances, context matters and something that might normally be okay might not be okay in certain circumstances. so for example, if you're flying the palestinian flag in order to support hamas, she was suggesting this may fall foul of the law. i think that's a very dangerous line in. >> these are live pictures on the screen there now from that demonstration forming up at portland place just by the bbc headquarters there, which i think is significant. it's going to for the next to be moving on for the next three hours. to three hours. i'd like to bring in belinda now. belinda in belinda de lucy now. belinda these protests have been these kind of protests have been flat in paris , in flat outlawed in paris, in france. we saw a stabbing there yesterday , say a country really yesterday, say a country really on the knife edge. that stabbing was confirmed terror was confirmed as a terror attack. question to you is,
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attack. my question to you is, the same as matthew just one week on timing to me seems everything's live pictures there. sorry. this picture from paris earlier this week where they were tear gassing a demonstration exactly like this to disperse it because they feared that these kind of protests can lead to an escalation of anti—semitism, 650% increase of those incidents in london alone in the past week. do you think today's protest should go ahead? no, i feel utterly sickened and disgusted at the response that we've seen on the streets of this country before israel even had a chance to respond to the attacks that have been anti—semitic and jew hating. >> i've seen the pro—palestinian protesters across the world, especially in sydney, australia, gas the jews. they were chanting. the problem with the protest is not the palestinian flags. the two palestinians and israelis have had conflict for decades. they can protest whenever they like. it is the timing wrong? the timing of this a few days after jews were
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massacred? in a way we haven't seen since the holocaust to choose now, as the time to show your support for a country where hamas represents. i know it doesn't represent all palestinians. hamas has done nothing for the palestinians. what . has shooting nothing for the palestinians. what. has shooting hundreds of young people in the back, raping the women, beheading babies got to do with freeing palestine and absolutely nothing. we should be united. christians, absolutely nothing. we should be unitenwe christians, absolutely nothing. we should be unitenwe should christians, jews. we should be united against the against islamist terror in the world. haram to isis world. from boko haram to isis to these are, as matthew to hamas. these are, as matthew said, evil, barbaric, mediaeval tactics that are being used. they should delay it to at least give the israelis time to grieve. >> and i could see you're running very impassioned there. and apologies anybody for the phrase that was phrase you use that was mentioned in australia. but matthew , sorry. don't worry. matthew, i'm sorry. don't worry. matthew, i'm sorry. don't worry. matthew tensions are very, very high. isn't this about the timing so soon after what happened? it just feels like another another insult that the
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jewish community just expected to endlessly absorb. let me be absolutely clear. >> i stand shoulder to shoulder with my fellow jews in this country. absolutely shoulder to shoulder. hitler would have had me out the door immediately. what in australia, what happened in australia, which you mentioned, rightly sickened me to the core of my being and anything that approximates that in this country needs to be clamped down on. however, one of the things that we hold dear in this country, one of the things that we should protect very, very carefully speech . carefully is freedom of speech. and if you were to ban demonstrations, it will drive and if you were to ban demonorations, it will drive and if you were to ban demonor riskls, it will drive and if you were to ban demonor risk drivingll drive and if you were to ban demonor risk driving things things or risk driving things underground . so i don't think underground. so i don't think that that is the way fonnard. hamas is an evil death cult, right . but at hamas is an evil death cult, right. but at the same time, and it is possible to hold two thoughts in our mind at once , thoughts in our mind at once, the deaths of hundreds of children in palestine break my heart. and if you are, protest, fighting for the lives of children in palestine, the idea that that should be banned to me is very wrong. can i say one
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more very quick thing? i was at wembley last night and i thought hard about whether it was the right decision by the fa and i think it would have been the fa who have made this who would have made this decision. whoever's decision. but whoever, whoever's decision. but whoever, whoever's decision i think it was, decision it was, i think it was, but only marginally right not to colour the arch in the israeli. >> why do you say that when they've shown they've shown the national colours of every other country. disaster country. that's why by disaster indeed. >> very fair question >> and it's a very fair question and why i thought very and it's why i thought very carefully about answer is carefully about it. my answer is this people who did what this the people who did what they did in last they did in israel last saturday, hours ago, they did in israel last s.week y, hours ago, they did in israel last s.week ago hours ago, they did in israel last s.week ago . hours ago, they did in israel last s.week ago . yes. hours ago, they did in israel last s.week ago . yes. are ours ago, they did in israel last s.week ago . yes. are as's ago, they did in israel last s.week ago . yes. are as evilo, they did in israel last s.week ago . yes. are as evil as a week ago. yes. are as evil as isis. let's make no bones about this. and i've said this week on gb news that i think the bbc should call these people terrorists that what terrorists because that is what they they are evil. they are, right? they are evil. however, when you have hundreds and hundreds of children dying in in now as in palestine in now as a consequence of the israeli response, whether or not you agree with the israeli response , agree with the israeli response, the idea of colouring the arch with the colours of one flag for me, but only marginally, would
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have felt distasteful. >> but don't. sorry. martin you don't you think there's a climate that's been created in this country of double standards ? so we had in 2021 convoys of cars with the palestinian flag driving up and down my friends jewish neighbourhoods in north london chanting horrific things of what they were going to do to the mothers and to jewish daughters. and you know what? they couldn't be prosecuted. so my like my worry about protests like this police simply can't this is the police simply can't supervise of thousands of supervise tens of thousands of people and differentiate between those who are there and support hamas and those who are defending the lives of innocent palestinians. you can't differentiate that at the moment because are so in because tensions are so high in this is unfortunately this country is unfortunately allowed. islamism, islam allowed. islamism, radical islam to take root in this country and across europe and we haven't been strong enough to defend ourselves against them. >> point here, >> matthew, one key point here, it's been pointed out you it's been pointed out if you display hamas flag , you'll display the hamas flag, you'll be prosecuted. however be instantly prosecuted. however some of organisers, i've some of the organisers, i've been very been following them very closely. i take keen closely. i do take a keen interest the rabble interest in some of the rabble rousers around this and they've said the following it's not
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advisable to burn the advisable today to burn the israeli flag, but legal. israeli flag, but it's legal. how would you feel if they start setting fire to israeli flags today? would that be legal or would be prosecutable? so would that be prosecutable? so there's things. there's two different things. >> there's is, do i would i >> there's one is, do i would i agree with and i would agree with that? and i would think an act i mean, think it was an act of i mean, it would be despicable , an act it would be despicable, an act of outrage to burn the israeli flag, view . the second flag, in my view. the second question matter question is simply a matter of law . so be unlawful law. so would it be unlawful bull to do that? and i don't know what the law is on that as far as people driving around jewish neighbourhoods or neighbourhoods lot neighbourhoods with a lot of jewish living there jewish people living there chanting obscenities about jewish women. if the law is and i'd be surprised about this, but if law is currently not if the law is currently not robust enough to deal with these people, jolly needs people, it jolly well needs to be enough with them. >> okay, final word. belinda de lucy. sad does it make you lucy. how sad does it make you feel to this kind of thing feel to see this kind of thing happening streets happening on british streets today? happening on british streets todajfeel like west asian >> i feel like west asian leaders have completely let their their people down just to allow this kind of thing to happen. we're supposed to be a
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safe haven , a sanctuary for safe haven, a sanctuary for those fleeing islamist states . those fleeing islamist states. and jewish people need to feel safe . i feel so protective. safe. i feel so protective. there's barely any jewish people in the world compared to other big religions like christianity and islam. we need to protect them. and at the moment, i think shame should have shame on us. we should have been far at clear out far stricter at clear out radical islamism and islamist causesin radical islamism and islamist causes in this country and differentiating them from ordinary muslim people, because you must never conflate the two, the left conflate them to apologise for islamists and the right conflate them to demonise muslims. we have to be somewhere in the middle, but we have to be all against radical all united against radical islamism sprouting up in our country . jewish people not country. jewish people are not as as were, we as safe as they were, and we need come really forcibly need to come out really forcibly and protect them. and today is not day protest not a day to protest for anything against islamist terrorism. >> okay, glenda, lucy, an impassioned display and matthew stadlen, thank you very much. thank you very much . oh, okay. thank you very much. oh, okay. you're watching and listening to gb saturday me . martin gb news saturday with me. martin daubney god coming daubney loads more. god coming up the show today . we'll have
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up on the show today. we'll have the regarding the rise in the latest regarding the rise in anti—semitism in the uk and how the home office plans to crack down on hate but first, down on hate crimes. but first, let's look the weather let's take a look at the weather with jonathan. >> hello there. i'm jonathan. here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met . it is coat met office. it is big coat weather for many of us this weekend. rather cold around in places and some showers to contend with as well, particularly and the particularly in the west and the north wintry over the north will be wintry over the higher ground of scotland . most higher ground of scotland. most of showers, though, this of the showers, though, this evening overnight ease evening and overnight will ease off probably off for inland areas, probably persisting, though, for coastal areas the areas might push through the cheshire well . underneath cheshire gap as well. underneath the skies we see inland, the clear skies we see inland, though, will though, temperatures will certainly dropping off. could certainly be dropping off. could be coldest night autumn be the coldest night of autumn so dropping below freezing so far, dropping below freezing in rural so in a lot of rural areas. so quite a chilly start to sunday morning, will be also a morning, but it will be also a rather bright and sunny one for many of us. the showers easing off widely compared to today, persisting, across the persisting, though, across the north of scotland where it will be general, be cloudy in general, but elsewhere, a good elsewhere, there will be a good number of sunny intervals throughout lighter throughout the day. lighter winds well . so hopefully
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winds as well. so hopefully feeling touch better compared feeling a touch better compared to still, to today. but still, temperatures no better temperatures doing no better than 10 to 13 c. so rather cold as well as we head into monday. high pressure is looking like it is going to cling on. so keeping things relatively fine and settled for the vast majority of us.the settled for the vast majority of us. the showers again, probably persisting across some far northern times , maybe northern areas at times, maybe pushing into the southeast as well. a little bit of mist and fog first thing the fog around first thing in the morning. clearing its way morning. that clearing its way off, a of a off, but could be a bit of a cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloud around the sunshine and cloud around so the sunshine and touch compared to the touch hazier compared to the weekend. the high pressure looks like on into the like it will cling on into the middle week though middle part of the week though temperatures also rising up a touch by by thank you very much jonathan. >> there's loads more yet coming up on today's show including as jake at jake rowling hits out at labour's lisa nandy for failing to stand up for the rights of women. i'll be asking, does labour a woman problem ? all labour have a woman problem? all of that and more to come. i'm martin and you're martin daubney and you're watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news britain's news news and with britain's news channel .
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . gb news radio. >> it's just after 1230. i'm elizabeth callahan in the newsroom . i'm an agreement has newsroom. i'm an agreement has been reached to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing . today, the border crossing. today, the united states has negotiated with israel , egypt and qatar to with israel, egypt and qatar to open the crossing from gaza to
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egypt. open the crossing from gaza to egypt . this open the crossing from gaza to egypt. this will open the crossing from gaza to egypt . this will allow people to egypt. this will allow people to flee and humanitarian aid to come in. they're working to open that corridor for five hours this afternoon , the palestinian this afternoon, the palestinian health ministry say at least 2269 palestinians have been killed and almost 10,000 wounded due to israeli attacks in the west bank and the gaza strip. these are live pictures from the northern part of gaza . the northern part of gaza. the israel defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory . three. this is the territory. three. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's hamas assault . israel's air force say assault. israel's air force say it has killed one of the hamas commanders who led the cross—border attack on israeli settlements last saturday. israel says hamas is still holding at least 120 hostages. israeli media reports bodies of captives have been found during raids . counter—terrorism police raids. counter—terrorism police
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have called on the public to report terrorist content that they see online following the attack by hamas on israel . the attack by hamas on israel. the force say there have been 55 new cases this week after a significant number of referrals from the public reporting potential terrorist content online. on dominic murphy, the head of met's counter—terrorism command, says following last week's horrific terrorist attack by hamas, there have been a significant concern in communities in london and across the country. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism legislation . breach uk terrorism legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism. presenter victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene following the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcast house as she arrived for work this morning. the metropolitan police say the incident has not yet been linked to any protest group
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. australia has voted no in a controversial referendum to officially recognise indigenous people in the constitution through the creation of an indigenous advisory body , the indigenous advisory body, the voice to parliament with half of the vote counted, the no vote, led by 57% leading australian broadcaster drs to predict that at least four states would vote against altering the 122 year old constitution . you can get old constitution. you can get more on all of these stories by visiting our website gbnews.com. now back to . martin and thank now back to. martin and thank you, elizabeth. >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv online and of on your t tv online and of course on your digital radio. well, while war rages in the middle east, incidents of anti—semitism here in the uk
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have skyrocketed by nearly 500. that's according to the community security trust, a charity helping to protect british jews. today is the sabbath, and jewish people will be marking the holy day of the week. we'll join me now is gb news east midlands. reporter will hollis . will, you're in will hollis. will, you're in nottingham investigating anti—semitism . the rise of it anti—semitism. the rise of it there. what's the story on the ground in. yes good afternoon. >> well, in the week since that attack by hamas on israel, there has been a massive increase in the number of anti—semitic incidents seen across britain . incidents seen across britain. >> now it's such a massive increase. just to give you a reference of where it was at for the exact same week last year, there was 32 anti—semitic incidents in the last week across the country . there's been across the country. there's been 193. now. that's a 500% increase. and in those main jewish population centres like greater london and manchester,
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it's potentially even more. now, this is from figures from the community security trust . just community security trust. just to break those down a little bit , i think we've got a graphic. there was 14 assaults, six damage and desecration to jewish property, 22 direct threats and at least 140 events of abusive behaviour, including verbal abuse and online abuse as well. now, this has happened across the country, as i say, but at least one incident took place here in nottingham, reported by the security trust. now that was where there was pro—palestine graffiti graffitied onto the former home of a rabbi here in the city. of course it is the sabbath, the saturday, the holy day, the day of rest for people that are part of the jewish religion. and i've been speaking to a few members of the community that weren't willing to go on camera because of their concerns for what's happening right now . but they said that right now. but they said that they are concerned hiring increasing security today and
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that they've been liaising with the police and that police are going to be stepping up patrols, particularly around those main jewish centres . we've got a bit jewish centres. we've got a bit of a statement from the community security trust that said, in many cases, these hateful comments, threats to life and physical attacks are laced with the rhetoric and iconography of pro—palestinian and anti—israel politics. and even compared to periods of previous conflicts involving israel . these statistics are israel. these statistics are unpressed certainly high. we've heard from the prime minister on thursday. he gave £3 million to the community security trust to boost those security forces. it is a charity working particularly to protect jewish interests so that schools and synagogues and this week he has described the rise in anti—semitism as discussed sting, but also saying that that the jewish community at this time has the full force of the law behind it. thank you very
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much for that update from from nottingham there will that's my home city. >> it's very saddening to hear that. let's come back to studio now. of now. former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry major ministry of defence, major general chapman us general chip chapman is with us throughout show . chip, this general chip chapman is with us thro inhout show . chip, this general chip chapman is with us thro in anti—semitism chip, this general chip chapman is with us thro in anti—semitism is1ip, this general chip chapman is with us thro in anti—semitism is deeply rise in anti—semitism is deeply concerning 650. the metropolitan police reported yesterday in this past week alone, the incidents ranging from threats of beheading on speakers, corner threats of beheading in supermarkets, the tearing down of posters of missing infants, and now on the holy day, we're seeing this protest in london. how much of a problem do you think this is in terms of its escalation to ward's real world violence and are we seeing a new dawn of a despicable anti—semitism within mainland britain? >> well, i think we are seeing the latter. i think you have to separate two things here. first, firstly, hate crime. it's how it manifests itself, which is the important thing. so the figures
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that will gave out were there were 14 assaults. so it's the manifesto when you deal with the offence. so 14 people should be should be prosecuted for assaults if it were to go to the right of arc in terms of terrorism, it would meet a terrorist intent. if it which is based on the terrorism act 2000, it must have a religious, racial, ethnic or ideological purpose. now, again , there is no purpose. now, again, there is no offence in law of being a terrorist. it's the manifestation of the offence. so if they were to go and murder someone, they would be done for a murder. although the motivation behind it might be have a terrorist rubric to it. so it's that which we might see and what i would expect see and what i would expect to see if more attacks if there were more attacks across europe and some the uk across europe and some in the uk is rather like the french yesterday that jtac, the joint terrorism analysis centre, may well op the terrorist threat level in gb and for example , the level in gb and for example, the last time they did that was in november 21 until february 22nd. based on a number of attacks which happened in mainland
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europe. now the manifestation of that in protective security terms would be that you'd probably have more patrols. the number of people who would be available based on overtime and things like that would lead to a more visible presence. and certainly it's not acceptable. of course, for children at jewish schools or synagogues not to be able to either go and get educated or go and worship. and we need to protect that. and the government has promised an extra £3 million to help protect jewish communities. >> but in itself, to me seems like admission of failure like an admission of a failure or a failure to tackle this . at or a failure to tackle this. at the root, what do we do to stamp this out? i mean , i mean, the this out? i mean, i mean, the threats of beheadings on speakers threats of beheadings on speaker's corner. okay. speakers speaker's corner. okay. speaker's corner, the world, the global epicentre of free speech. clearly crossing a line, though , clearly crossing a line, though, in the direct aftermath of a terrorist attack to issue such a verbal threat. what's the answer? just just arrest more people, bang more people up, send out a clear message . send out a clear message. >> well, you can't really arrest your way out of this sort of
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dilemma. rather like the israelis can't really kill their way out of the problem because the idea will still be there . the idea will still be there. the real sadness that we talk the real sadness is that we talk really about the shared well between in the three abrahamic religions as judaism, christianity and muslim rule from common roots. but they seem to have diverged . so how can you to have diverged. so how can you get back to a situation ocean when there is this shared? well, now there have been a number of report s in the 2000 which have talked about parallel societies, polarisation in the uk and they've all been very, very good in narrative terms. but the recommendations have always been very, very weak . now in terms of very, very weak. now in terms of the terrorism from call it islamist terrorism for the moment , but there should be islamist terrorism for the moment, but there should be in the uk a thing called the covenant of security . so covenant of security. so although you might for be palestinian homeland and all that, that shouldn't manifest itself in terrorism in the sense that we are ensuring that you are safe here. we probably crossed that rubicon, though, in
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2005 with the seven over seven bombs when that covenant of security was absolutely destroyed on that day. >> okay, chairman , thank you for >> okay, chairman, thank you for that update and joining, of course, throughout the rest of the show. thank you very much. well watching well you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with loads listening to gb news saturday with coming loads listening to gb news saturday with coming up loads listening to gb news saturday with coming up on loads listening to gb news saturday with coming up on today's ads listening to gb news saturday with coming up on today's show, more coming up on today's show, including lisa nandy has landed herself hot with j.k. herself in hot water with j.k. rowling latter accused rowling after the latter accused her of not standing up for women's rights . all of that and women's rights. all of that and much more to you're much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news channel .
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want to keep you entertained. >> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 . sunday mornings from 930. >> well, good afternoon. it's 1245. welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv , online and on your on your tv, online and on your digital radio. now lisa nandy has come under fire from harry potter author j.k. rowling saying that the shadow minister is, quote, one of the biggest reasons women on the left don't trust labour . well, during trust labour. well, during natalie's speech at the labour party conference this week, she said the absolute priority will be to empower women and girls. if labour were to win the next general election. but j.k. rowling quickly hit back tweeting, quote, you said rapists should be transferred to women's prisons if they self—identify as women. you called women's place uk a hate group . given that you're one of group. given that you're one of the biggest reasons that many women on the left no longer trust labour to defend their
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rights, do you stand by those comments ? well, as usual, it was comments? well, as usual, it was a very divisive hoo ha. and joining me now is diversity and inclusion facilitator katie john went. thanks for joining inclusion facilitator katie john went. thanks forjoining us on went. thanks for joining us on the show. so you must be having this debate all the time. it's like it's become so polarised this one lisa nandy, though, says says on the face of it, she wants to stick up for women and girls. but is that position compatible with the idea for example, of sending people like isla bryson , an biological isla bryson, an the biological male rapist into a women's jail? can you have both of those positions? >> well, we've already jumped to kind of an extreme example, isla bryson, etcetera . bryson, etcetera. >> or karen white in the past, i do think the prison situation is actually easily answerable and the government has actually moved in the sense moved towards that in the sense that no one with intact male and male anatomy will be going to a female prison anymore. and certainly no one with a history female prison anymore. and ce sex|ly no one with a history female prison anymore. and ce sex|ly nnviolenceh a history female prison anymore. and ce sex|ly nnviolence towards)ry of sex and violence towards women be put in that women should be put in that place to actually make women more you more vulnerable. but can you
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have that nuanced have that kind of that nuanced discussion you can stand discussion where you can stand up the rights women and up for the rights of women and girls, lisa nandy up for the rights of women and girls,she's lisa nandy up for the rights of women and girls,she's standing lisa nandy up for the rights of women and girls,she's standing lisfor,indy up for the rights of women and girls,she's standing lisfor, and says she's standing up for, and jk staying the same jk rowling is staying the same as place uk, as does as do women's place uk, as does the philia conference is on today in glasgow at the moment and you can for stand up women and you can for stand up women and girls and still stand up for human rights and stand up for transgender the transgender people. so the question you create a question is how do you create a dialogue around how do we coexist? where any of those rights and situations where do sex and gender kind of intersect in such a way that we have to discuss how we coexist? and you know, that's the question for me. i guess the problem is there seems to be hierarchy and seems to be a hierarchy and often times people believe that trans rights supersede trans rights now supersede women's rights, particularly in terms around prisons. terms of safety around prisons. >> another big sticking >> and another big sticking point, of course, is, is sport for biological men. clearly which i hope you would agree have have an advantage in terms of their skeleton, their muscle structure , if they've been structure, if they've been through male puberty . do you through male puberty. do you think things like that are what are making think i've got are making people think i've got no with being
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no problem with with you being a transgender person, but when you come so unfairly beat come in and so unfairly beat biological women, it's simply unfair. >> yeah, well, in terms of sport , think particularly , i don't think i particularly have advantage . i'm a have an unfair advantage. i'm a bit a scrawny bloke, but and bit of a scrawny bloke, but and i've had discussions with sharron davies on this channel and with martina navratilova over on twitter. and i've changed my position on that. i have listened to people on both sides people have come back sides and people have come back at me since i moved my position that people should be that trans people should not be in sex sport. they do have in sex based sport. they do have an advantage . i was speaking to an advantage. i was speaking to someone in a in a football team recently. she said that and she was pro trans in sport and she was pro trans in sport and she was on a team of women footballers, but then suddenly they faced a team that was almost entirely of almost entirely made up of transgender players. and suddenly said, okay, this suddenly she said, okay, this changes when it's one changes it. so when it's one person in a team minor advantage, it's an advantage, when it's an individual in in an elite individual in a in an elite sport, big advantage. and also the person who's like 400th in a male category suddenly becomes top in women's category. top three in a women's category. those advantages can't disappear. who has on disappear. someone who has on average five inches, know,
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average five inches, you know, taller height, you know, 6 to sin longer breadth, bigger hands 8in longer breadth, bigger hands on average is going to be bigger in the goal. mouth is going to be have a longer stroke in the pool or a bigger stride when hurdling . so but they're not hurdling. so but they're not really hugely safety issues, but they are fairness issues and i think they're quite easy to discuss know what, discuss and say, you know what, that we've got on the wrong side of that . but then these of that. but then are these other nuances like how does a party, a political party, say they are pro a minority group , they are pro a minority group, whether that's women with regard to sex? they're not naturally a minority group, but a disadvantage group in the past or transgender for just 1 to 2% of the population. how do they stand up for both of those rather than pitch one against the other? and i think it is possible. and you said has does it become we put it has it now become that we put trans over women? i don't think we should doing that. it's we should be doing that. it's trans women it's working trans and women and it's working out. we coexist? where do out. how do we coexist? where do we and do we have we intersect and how do we have that without simply that conversation without simply saying you or me?
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saying it's you or me? >> right? okay, katie , john, >> right? okay, katie, john, we'll leave it there. superb, nuanced debate. that's where we like it on gb news. thank you very much. was superb. very much. that was superb. okay. and now another story from the conference. the labour party conference. labour pledged to build 1.5 labour has pledged to build 1.5 million over five years. million homes over five years. should keir starmer get the keys to number 10? if successful , to number 10? if successful, starmer says will, quote, starmer says labour will, quote, build ose through local planning regulations and build on the so called green belt patches of protected land designated to stop cities from sprawling out of joining up. well, joining me now is property expert russell quirk. russell so alas, we got a bit of detail from keir starmer. 1.5 million homes. we all know we've got a housing crisis. seems quite sensible , isn't it? seems quite sensible, isn't it? >> it does. it's one of the rare things i think that's come out of keir starmer's mouth that i actually agree with. he doesn't know what a woman is, but he does know what a target does know what a housing target is, seems. martin so that's is, it seems. martin so that's that's all good, although as we know from politicians over the years, particularly in recent years, particularly in recent years , what in terms of
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years, what they say in terms of the headline grabbing and the rhetoric and what they actually do in terms of executing on that so—called plan, they are two rather things . rather different things. >> now it's quite easy. russell to say we're going to war on nimbyism, but how they going nimbyism, but how are they going to mean, that's to do that? i mean, that's what's this process what's been choking this process for well . for decades as well. >> actually, the conservatives tried to have a go at kind of breaking this stranglehold that the vocal minority. so those nimbys in communities, that stranglehold that they have by pre designating certain elements of land generally brownfield land that's land that's previously developed pre designating it for planning purposes so that there's a default assumption that it will get planning permission rather than the reality of what happens . and i say this as a former council planning chairman, when there's an application to build, even if it ticks all of the planning boxes, often what happens is local residents that don't want to see, you know, more housing at the end of their cul de sac or on a scrappy bit
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of land at the end of the road. they don't see more they don't want to see more traffic their road and so traffic in their road and so on. so selfish outlook, so a very, very selfish outlook, frankly . they go put frankly. they then go and put huge pressure on local councillors and threaten them electorally. they say , you know, electorally. they say, you know, if you don't support us in abject voting to this planning application, these four big houses the of the road, houses at the end of the road, we won't you again next we won't elect you again next time . and that of course is you time. and that of course is you could democratic, but it's could argue democratic, but it's not because it's circumventing the democratic process. the proper democratic process. so i think what labour need to do is the sensible thing around what they're suggesting with the greenbelt, which is to re category these, not the green and pleasant land, the meadows and pleasant land, the meadows and the pastures and the country parks . i and the pastures and the country parks. i don't think keir starmer's talking about that . starmer's talking about that. what he's considering is to take out the less than desirable bit. so let's say for instance, the bits of scrubland , the old bits of scrubland, the old industrial estates, the old petrol stations and so on, and turning those effectively into grey belt and then being able to develop on it. but also by
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circumventing this kind of democratic issue whereby we can end up with better planning process without nimbys ruling the roost . the roost. >> now. russell, another thing that's been touted is the idea of new town lines. so to get around the nimby idea altogether, let's just plonk a new town on a brownfield site. and course one of the and of course one of the spectres of that is this conversation around 15 minute cities. let's build new cities. so let's build new towns. but basically there'll be anti—car, there'll be there'll be low key, there'll be cyclists friendly. is this like a planning utopia or do you think that kind of thing has a place in british planning ? in british planning? >> so i think new towns absolutely need to be built. you know what the conservatives for years actually have been calling garden towns and garden villages , which were announced about ten years ago but never actually delivered upon and just to be clear, i mean, we hear a lot that britain is being concreted over and there's way too much
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building as a matter of fact, rather than just hyperbole and rhetoric . only 5% of britain is rhetoric. only 5% of britain is built on with residential properties. so that's just a matter of absolute data driven facts. so there is plenty of room given the expanding population and the fact that people are living longer and 20 odd % of people want to live on odd% of people want to live on their own. now, there's plenty of room across britain for not just the provision of new towns, so towns to house ten, 20, 30, 40,000 people, but you can then very reasonably say to the property developers, the big house builders involved with those developments, look, we want some infrastructure to go with this. and that's how people in nearby communities end up with more hospitals, more schools more stations, schools, more railway stations, more roads because of what they call section 106 agreements. and community levy . community infrastructure levy. so if we kind of let things expand as the growing population is dictating that things are actually this all starts to look after itself. but what we can't
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have is not just local people and councillors, but this plethora of mps on both sides of the parliamentary aisle jumping in and trying to object to any thing that resembles the development . development. >> okay, russell, thank you very much . excellent analysis. we're much. excellent analysis. we're going to have to leave it there. okay. you're watching and listening gb news saturday listening to gb news saturday with me. martin daubney loads more yet today's more coming up yet on today's show, the latest show, including the latest situation , course, gaza situation, of course, in gaza with charlie peters. all of that and much more to come. you're watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel >> i'm andrew doyle. join me at 7:00 every night for free 7:00 every sunday night for free speech nation. the show right tackle. the week's biggest stories in politics and current affairs. help of my two affairs. with the help of my two comedian, panellists and a variety of special guests, free speech nation sunday nights from 7:00 on gb news the people's channel
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>> hello , welcome to gb news >> hello, welcome to gb news saturday. i'm martin dalby and for the next two hours i'll be keeping you company on your telly online and on your digital radio. well, coming up this houn radio. well, coming up this hour, tens of thousands of civilians in the gaza strip are fleeing south after israel gave palestinians living there. just 24 hours to flee. we'll bring you the very latest in what's happening in the middle east. then, as protests erupt across europe, thousands of people have taken to the streets of london to march in a pro—palestinian
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demonstration today, police have warned that anyone showing support for hamas or deviating from the agreed route could face imminent arrest . and despite the imminent arrest. and despite the uk economy growing, are there more economic woes just around the corner as fighting intensifies in gaza ? could we intensifies in gaza? could we see global inflation similar to that experienced after the russian invasion of ukraine? as even russian invasion of ukraine? as ever, please do get in touch. send me all of your thoughts on vaiews@gbnews.uk or message me on our socials. we're of course, at gb news. but first, here's your news with with elizabeth callaghan . callaghan. >> good afternoon . it's 1:00. >> good afternoon. it's 1:00. i'm elizabeth callaghan in the newsroom . israel says newsroom. israel says palestinians can flee from the north of gaza along two main routes without being harmed. between 10 am. and 4 pm. local time today. the palestinian
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health ministry say at least 2269 palestinians have been killed and almost 10,000 wounded due to israeli attacks in the west bank and the gaza strip . west bank and the gaza strip. now you can see smoke rising over the northern part of gaza in these live pictures. israel defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's hamas assault. israel's air force says it's killed the hamas commander who led the cross—border attack on israeli settlements last saturday day. israel says hamas is still holding at least 120 hostages. israeli media reports bodies of captives have been found during raids . the united found during raids. the united nafionsis found during raids. the united nations is warning that over 2 million people are at risk as water runs out and humanitarian aid is blocked from going into gaza. aid is blocked from going into gaza . airstrips on gaza city gaza. airstrips on gaza city through the night has flattened
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sections as a palestinian rescue team was hit by a missile while they were attempting to care for wounded among the rubble. the israeli military says it's destroying hamas targets in its strikes and has killed dozens from the militant group qatar . from the militant group qatar. casualties are being brought to hospitals in south gaza as tens of thousands struggle to flee the shelling. israel journalists johan confino told gb news that if those being to told move do not do so, the death toll could rise to much higher numbers . rise to much higher numbers. >> well, the latest is that there were just rockets fired over tel aviv. so i had to run for shelter just a couple of minutes ago. but course , minutes ago. but of course, there is another situation which is more focussed on right now , is more focussed on right now, and that is gaza, which is experiencing heavy bombardment by israel and israel is of course encouraging civilians to move from the northern part of the gaza strip to the southern part. and i was just on an idf briefing, a military briefing,
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where they said that they had announced to safe announced danced to safe corridors where people can move safely for around six hours. and of course , they're hoping of course, they're hoping civilians will do that because if they don't, the death toll in gaza will rise significantly . gaza will rise significantly. >> the israeli army says it's looking into an incident involving a reuters journalist involving a reuters journalist in southern lebanon. he was killed on friday. issam abdullah , when missiles struck him and a group of other journalists near the border where israeli military and hezbollah have been exchanging fire. lebanon's foreign ministry says it will submit a formal complaint to the un security council over what it calls israel's deliberate killing. six other journalists were injured. the un secretary—general says the incident shows danger of the violence spreading. >> i want to say how much this death constraints the enormous risk of spill—over of this
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conflict . conflict. >> counter—terrorism police have called on the public to report terrorist content they see onune terrorist content they see online following the attack by hamas on israel. the force say there have been 55 new cases this week after a significant number of referrals from the public, referring potential terrorist content online. dominic murphy, the head of the metropolitan police's counter terrorism command, says following last week's horrific terrorist attack by hamas, there have been significant concern in communities in london and across the country . the police will the country. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism legislation . breach uk terrorism legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism . targeted act of vandalism. presenter victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene showing the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcasting house as she arrived for work. this
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morning. the met the metropolitan police said the incident has not yet been linked to any protest group . thousands to any protest group. thousands have descended on bbc studios in london to take part in a pro—palestine march. the met police have deployed over 1000 officers and warned anyone showing support for hamas will face arrest. demonstrators are marching in solidarity with palestine in amid the israel hamas conflict and demanding israel ends its occupation . israel ends its occupation. australia has voted no in a controversial referendum to officially recognise as indigenous people in its constitution through the creation of an indigenous advisory body , the voice to advisory body, the voice to parliament. with over half the votes counted counted, the no votes counted counted, the no vote is leading by 57. australian. australian broadcasters, broadcasters predict that at least four states will vote against
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altering the 122 year old constitution . the prime constitution. the prime minister, who champion the plans, admitted the result is not what we hoped for and says the country must seek a new way fonnard . this this is gb news fonnard. this this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by playing saying play gb news. now it's back to gb news saturday with . back to gb news saturday with. martin and thank you very much for that update. >> elizabeth. let's get stuck now into today's topics . tens of now into today's topics. tens of thousands of civilians in the gaza strip are currently fleeing south after israel gave palestinians living there just 24 hours to flee. yesterday the idf told over 1 24 hours to flee. yesterday the idf told over1 million gazans to flee from the northern half of the strip to south of wadi gaza. the united nations says that the order is horrendous before the order, over 400,000
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palestinians had been displaced due to fighting and a death toll in gaza from israeli airstrikes has risen to over 1900. well, our reporter charlie peters is live in tel aviv for us now. hello to you, charlie, once again. and the latest line we're just hearing, charlie, it's been reported that a civilian vehicle travelling on one of those safe routes as has been hit, killing at least 12 people. there's only one hour, less than one hour now until that safe window expires . until that safe window expires. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> well, i'm here at a memorial in central tel aviv where people have been lighting candles day and night to reflect on so much of the destruction that's happened already in this war. but while there are also lots of thoughts for israeli lives lost, there is great concern in tel aviv about the situation in in gaza. of course, these humanitarian corridors with just one hour left until they likely
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close. but good news in the last two hours with the rafah crossing into egypt being opened after american diplomacy with the qataris and israelis securing that additional safe passage, this will allow all of those civilians who are fleeing from the north into the south in one of the most densely populated areas to seek additional refuge from what is already descending very terribly in the gaza strip. that situation will almost certainly get worse in the next 24 hours as israel gears up for that likely ground invasion in the south, its first ground invasion into the gaza strip since 2014, when those civilians, as many as they possibly can leave from the north, those 1.1 million people on the move , a move that the un on the move, a move that the un saysis on the move, a move that the un says is impossible . all but when says is impossible. all but when that deadline is out, it's highly likely that the israeli defence forces will continue with their barrages but make them even more severe, even more targeted , and that more advanced
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targeted, and that more advanced munitions will be used on that location . they need to use location. they need to use bunker buster ammunition , one bunker buster ammunition, one idf commander told me, because as gaza has two layers on the top is the civilian layer. but beneath the surface, underground there is 500km of tunnels, tunnels used by hamas to store weapons and also personnel and prepare for new attacks like the rocket attacks we are witnessing here and enduring in central tel aviv. the only way to get to those terrorists, the idf say, is through more advanced munitions. and that's why all those civilians who need to get out so they can prepare the ground that likely ground ground for that likely ground invasion. >> charlie thank >> okay. charlie peters, thank you update live from you for that update live from tel aviv. close to home now, thousands of people have taken to the streets of london to march in a pro—palestinian demonstration that's currently taking place. police have warned that anyone showing support for hamas or deviating from the agreed route could face immediate arrest. agreed route could face immediate arrest . well, agreed route could face immediate arrest. well, joining me now is gb news political correspondent catherine forster, live from the protests currently
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happening. catherine it's one hour into the protest now . how hour into the protest now. how many people are there would you estimate and what's the mood on the ground ? the ground? >> many thousands of people here, i would say the police are expecting around 10,000 people to this protest that they've laid on 1000 police officers , laid on 1000 police officers, some on horseback, some armed to monitor this process. they began up at the bbc just on the other side of oxford circus, and now processing down regent street. the police have issued a section 12 notice that basically prescribes the route which is going to go all the way down. regent street and ultimately end up on whitehall. they've said very clearly protesters must not deviate from from that route . deviate from from that route. excuse me. and if they do, they are likely to be be arrested. they've also been very clear that although it is considered
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acceptable to fly an flag, any hamas flags or hezbollah flags will not be tolerated . those, of will not be tolerated. those, of course, would be the flags of proscribed terrorist organisations. now the mood here, of course, with any big protests, there's always a potential for things to turn ugly. but at the moment it it seems to be pretty peaceful. there's a wide range . people of there's a wide range. people of all ages , all backgrounds. i've all ages, all backgrounds. i've seen dogs , i've seen little seen dogs, i've seen little children did see the police approach . one young woman who approach. one young woman who effectively she had a pretty much her entire head shielded with only her eyes visible, which we think might have been interpreted as a possible sort of sympathy vote for hamas. the police spoke to her and said that she had to unmask her face, but lots of people here won't talk to us or won't talk to us publicly . those that will publicly. those that will generally keen to stress that
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they feel that the palestinian cause, in their view, have been treated badly for many years. they want to highlight what they see is the plight of people in gaza, not just now, obviously , gaza, not just now, obviously, when gaza has been put under siege following the horrific attack last weekend by hamas when they went into israel , when they went into israel, murdered people in kibbutz's , murdered people in kibbutz's, murdered people in kibbutz's, murdered old people, young people, babies, took an 85 year old grandmothers out of their beds, five year old children took them hostage and now have them in gaza. but following on from that, of course , israel has from that, of course, israel has told 1.1 million people in the north of gaza to get out and it is blocking access to food, to energy , to power. so a lot of energy, to power. so a lot of chanting here of free, free palestine . at the very palestine. at the very beginning, there was a woman on a megaphone chanting,
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beginning, there was a woman on a megaphone chanting , israel is a megaphone chanting, israel is a megaphone chanting, israel is a terrorist state. i have to say, i haven't heard that much, but clearly a lot of people here feeling for palestine . and you feeling for palestine. and you have to also remember here what a terrible time this is for jews around the world and up and down the country. a number of jewish schools in north london felt forced to shut yesterday for the safety of their pupils. there's been a big rise in anti—semitic attacks, so this must be deeply disturbing. i imagine, for many of the jewish community watching this and wondering what some of the motives are catherine forster, thanks for that update live from the march in london that goes on all the way through this show until 3 pm. will be across that the entire show . across that the entire show. >> so if it kicks off, we'll be sure be covering it. okay. as sure to be covering it. okay. as the rages in the gaza the war rages on in the gaza strip, questions are being raised destabilised raised on the destabilised nafion raised on the destabilised nation on the entire middle east. with hezbollah in the north potentially dragging lebanon the conflict. all
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lebanon into the conflict. all eyes are now on what iran will do in the coming weeks. well join me now is former senior military intelligence officer philip ingram. good afternoon to you. philip's always a pleasure. so we're seeing the final hour now of the safe route out of gaza. now of the safe route out of gaza . but the broader question gaza. but the broader question is, what is the broader impact of destabilisation in the area? there's hezbollah to the north and lebanon have been shelling in syria has been shelling in. and meanwhile , everybody thinks and meanwhile, everybody thinks that the people pulling the strings iran . what's the strings are iran. what's the prospects for the area? well you're running up to the hezbollah terrorist attack in israel. >> we were seeing a lightning of relationships and saudi arabia was going to form reopen relationships with with his diplomatic relationship with israel, as was the uae. and this has put that back years and years and years . and we're years and years. and we're seeing the wider influence from iran and potentially from russia
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simulating what's going on because who's winning in the information sphere at the moment of vladimir putin? because what he's doing in ukraine is not hitting the news headlines. the wider iranian influence area has been there for quite some time. they are part of the backers of hamas through hezbollah. hezbollah have been carrying out actions across the southern border of lebanon against the israelis and the israelis have split their military force from that element to that is preparing to go into gaza to an element that is preparing to defend and possibly attack into southern lebanon as part of its defence against hezbollah . the defence against hezbollah. the destabilisation that there is in the region cannot be underestimated at the moment . underestimated at the moment. >> we're now seeing people >> what we're now seeing people emboldened on the streets of the european capital cities, paris , european capital cities, paris, as we've seen, a stabbing in northern france related to the incident, the invasion last week incident, the invasion last week in israel. protest in london
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today. philip, how much of a destabilising influence do you think this is not only across the middle east, but also across the middle east, but also across the western world in general ? the western world in general? >> oh, it's massive. and again, you know, i'll stretch my neck out and say that this suits vladimir putin, especially in the run up to european elections and us presidential and the us presidential elections and people elections. and people are missing out. a real subtle understanding here. they hamas do not represent the palestinian people. hamas are not the palestinian people. and everyone and i think even most israelis feel sorry for the plight of the palestinian people themselves. and you object to the hard line tactics that the very right wing israeli government have taken against the palestinian people in many places. but hamas terrorised the palestinian people. and whilst israel has got a duty to try and minimise civilian casualties, which is part of the reason why they've warned the palestinians to get out of that part of gaza, that
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they intend to attack into the hamas , are turning around to hamas, are turning around to those people and saying stay away and then hamas are putting military capability into civilian housing areas beside hospitals , is putting military hospitals, is putting military capability under mosques. so whenever for israel legitimately targets them under international law , the pictures that come back law, the pictures that come back are of the destruction of civilian on living accommodation of mosques, of damage to hospitals and elsewhere, because those are the pictures that hamas want to come out. it suits their purpose and in different capitals around europe and around the world, when people are protesting very legitimately on behalf of the palestinian people, they have to be extremely careful that they don't cross the line and see that turning into some form of support or encouragement for what hamas is doing, because it is very different indeed. and that crosses the line of the terrorism act . terrorism act. >> rome that's one currently on
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the streets of london, which just a moment ago we were showing pictures from about ten minutes ago gaza being minutes ago of gaza being pounded force military. pounded with air force military. i've got a question for you . why i've got a question for you. why would hamas in total could only muster up about 25, 26,000 troops, including the islamic jihad, while they go to a war with a force the size of israel? 170,000 active army members getting on for a half a million reservists. it's a suicide mission. what's in it for them ? mission. what's in it for them? >> well, that's a $6 million question. i don't think it's been clearly articulated given the length of time that they put into planning this operation and the sophistication of it. if they wanted to stir israel , they wanted just to stir israel, which is one of their stated aims , they want israel to attack aims, they want israel to attack in and the international community to become more anti—israeli and they wanted the diplomatic efforts that were coming from saudi arabia and the uae to fail. they've achieved those objectives . but actually those objectives. but actually there be to this
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there has to be more to this because could have done because they could have done that in a in a much less sophisticated way and done it much more quickly. and therefore , my worry is that there is a wider plan here, bringing hezbollah in, opening up a second front from north and potentially bringing iran in and there are indications to suggest that my worries are being shared by the international community. if it was just his hamas and just hamas and hezbollah, then the us wouldn't necessarily put two aircraft carrier groups into the mediterranean an and the uk wouldn't be looking looking at putting ships and surveillance aircraft in what those are there to do is to send a clear message to do is to send a clear message to anything that could come in from a wider perspective and say , don't, we're ready for you . , don't, we're ready for you. >> okay? philip ingram fantastic contribution . thanks forjoining contribution. thanks for joining us today on gb news saturday. back in the studio now, we have chip chapman. chip, you are over here in that and nodding along. and i want to put that question to it make your to you because it make your eyes lit why hamas, who are
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lit up. why would hamas, who are dwarfed by the military power of israel, pick such a war? it's a suicide mission . suicide mission. >> well, we always say, quoting sun tzu that tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat. so if you look just at the tactical level, they tried to achieve three things. the first one is they'd like to have all the prisoners released from israeli jails. and we saw the exchange of 1000 for one a few years ago . gilat the second years ago. gilat the second thing they want to try and achieve is to be the top dog in the resistance front. so they want to supplant fatah in the west bank, which is under an accommodationist regime . and i accommodationist regime. and i think the third thing they want to do at the tactical level was to do at the tactical level was to stop that sunni rapprochement with israel. if saudi arabia had done a deal with israel, which seemed likely with mbs, mohammed bin salah , and then the bin salah, and then the palestinian issue would have been right down the agenda. so that's at the tactical level. it only makes strategic sense if they were to enable hezbollah to
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join this and potentially the houthis. now it's a different question. if you say will iran join this? and to look at the answer to that, you need to look at the threats and what the red lines are. now actually, iran have enabled and grown six different armies in the middle east at the moment or substate armies. you've got hamas, you've got hezbollah in lebanon, you've got hezbollah in lebanon, you've got the houthis in in yemen . and got the houthis in in yemen. and the fourth one, you've got the popular mobilisation forces in iraq, which would go after american assets if they were to support the israelis kinetically with with forces. and you've also got two militias in syria, which one is a shia militia from afghanistan and the other is a shia militia from pakistan. now of course, this is the middle east and it's slightly more complex. so, for example, in syria, the north of syria, there's a group which used to be an type group called
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an al—qaeda type group called hay'at tahrir al—sham. they think the iranians are think that the iranians are actually trying to take over and supplant the sunni and wipe them out. the nuance here with hamas is hamas is a sunni group, whereas all the other five i've mentioned are shia group . and mentioned are shia group. and one of the splits in the middle east at the moment has always been a sunni shia split, really from 1979 with the iranian regime coming to the fore with the ayatollah. >> there is there any possibility that the hamas forces retreating at present? you'd assume towards the southern border or standing firm? can they escape from gaza or will they just face their grim fate in the war of attrition on the ground? >> well, i think the thing about any guerrilla or insurgent type army is they can just drop their weapons and melt in amongst the people. they they're not uniformed . you know, they're uniformed. you know, they're they've been described as diffuse rocket based terror army by the by the israelis. so they'll melt away. they won't
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try and all necessarily die. they want to keep some sort of cadre there for reconstitution in the future. and there will be a future that will mean posing as refugees and slipping out of the country. it could be it could be one of the options is the true force that needs to be tackled here. >> the elephant in the room, the one that's pulling all the strings, if so, what strings, iran. and if so, what can be done? this has been going on for decades. >> would like the >> iran would like to see the destruction of israel the destruction of israel in the same way that hamas would. it's slightly more complex, i think, for the iranians at the moment because of the their own problems at home. so at the moment, for over a year, we've had kind of insurgency , had a kind of not an insurgency, but a popular uprising, which has been brutally suppressed and unusually for the middle east, which is a very patriarchal society. this has been led by the women , the very brave women the women, the very brave women of iran under the rubric of women life, freedom . so one of women life, freedom. so one of the problems for iran , if they the problems for iran, if they join, is that that could be a
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catalyst for people in iran trying to change the regime from within in iran. so they have a fine calculation to make . now, fine calculation to make. now, my assessment of iran is that they would only join in the fight as a state if they were to be attacked by the israelis. >> chip chapman, thank you. fantastic analysis of a very complicated situation. superb okay, you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. martin daubney loads more coming up yet on today's show . but first, let's take show. but first, let's take a look your all important look at your all important weather jonathan. weather with jonathan. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your latest gb news forecast provided news weather forecast provided by the office. it big by the met office. it is big coat weather many of us this coat weather for many of us this weekend. rather around in weekend. rather cold around in places some showers to places and some showers to contend with well, contend with as well, particularly west and the particularly in the west and the north be wintry over north will be wintry over the higher ground scotland. most higher ground of scotland. most of showers, this of the showers, though, this evening overnight will evening and overnight will ease off areas, probably off for inland areas, probably persisting , though, coastal persisting, though, for coastal areas through areas might push through the cheshire gap as well. underneath the clear skies we see inland, though, temperatures will certainly off. could certainly be dropping off. could be coldest night of autumn
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be the coldest night of autumn so , dropping below freezing be the coldest night of autumn so a , dropping below freezing be the coldest night of autumn so a lotdropping below freezing be the coldest night of autumn so a lotdrorural| below freezing be the coldest night of autumn so a lotdro rural areas! freezing be the coldest night of autumn so a lotdro rural areas. sozezing in a lot of rural areas. so quite chilly start to sunday quite a chilly start to sunday morning, but it will be also a rather bright and sunny one for many the showers easing many of us. the showers easing off widely compared to today, persisting, though, across the north of scotland it will north of scotland where it will be in general, but be cloudy in general, but elsewhere, will good elsewhere, there will be a good number intervals number of sunny intervals throughout day . lighter throughout the day. lighter winds well. so hopefully winds as well. so hopefully feeling a touch better compared to . still, to today. but still, temperatures no better temperatures doing no better than 10 to 13 c. so rather cold as well as we head into monday. high pressure is looking like it is going to cling on. so keeping things relatively fine and settled for the vast majority of us.the settled for the vast majority of us. the showers again, probably persisting across some far northern at times , maybe northern areas at times, maybe pushing into the southeast as well. a little bit of mist and fog in the fog around first thing in the morning. its way morning. that clearing its way off, be a bit a off, but could be a bit of a cloudier some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloud . so the sunshine cloud around. so the sunshine touch to the touch hazier compared to the weekend. the high pressure looks like it will on into the like it will cling on into the middle though. middle part of the week, though. temperatures up a temperatures also rising up a touch by.
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touch by by. >> and thank you very much for that update jonathan there's loads more yet on today's loads more coming yet on today's show as france bans show including as france bans pro—palestinian demonstrations will be at a rally in glasgow this time to understand how the conflict in the middle east is affecting britain's at home. all of that and much more to come. i'm martin daubney and you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel .
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130. >> i'm elizabeth callahan in the newsroom . israel says newsroom. israel says palestinian can flee from the north of gaza along two main routes without being harmed until 2:00pm today. the united states has negotiated an agreement with israel, qatar and egypt to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing . today, the border crossing. today, the palestinian health ministry say at least 2269 palestinians have been killed and almost 10,000 wounded due to israeli attacks in the west bank and the gaza strip. in these latest pictures, you can see smoke rising over the northern part of gaza . the the northern part of gaza. the israeli defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's hamas assault. israel's air force says it has
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killed the hamas commander who led the cross—border border attack on israeli settlement last saturday. israel says hamas is still holding at least 120 hostages. israeli media reports bodies of captives have been found during raids . the united found during raids. the united nafionsis found during raids. the united nations is warning that over 2 million people are at risk as water runs out and humanitarian aid is blocked from going into gaza. aid airstrikes on gaza city through the night has flattened sections . a flattened sections. a palestinian rescue team was hit by a missile while they were attempting to care for wounded. among the rubble . the israeli among the rubble. the israeli military says it's destroying hamas targets in its strikes and has killed dozens from the militant group . well, here in militant group. well, here in the uk , counter—terrorism police the uk, counter—terrorism police are reviewing a 55 new cases of potential terrorist content online. amid the israel—hamas conflict . the metropolitan conflict. the metropolitan police say there's been a
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significant number of referrals from the public. the force is encouraging people to report content out that appears to incite terrorist violence or activity. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism legislation . breach uk terrorism legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism. presenter victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene following the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcasting house as she arrived for work this morning . the metropolitan this morning. the metropolitan police say the incidents not yet been linked to any protest group . thousands of protesters are marching through central london in a pro—palestinian demonstration. the met police have deployed over 1000 officers and are warning anyone showing support for hamas will face arrest. demonstrators are marching in solidarity with palestine amid the israel—hamas
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conflict and demanding israel ends its occupation mission in in australia. they have voted no in australia. they have voted no in a controversial referendum to officially recognise indigenous people in its constitution , people in its constitution, which would have been called the voice to parliament. but with over half the votes counted, the no vote is leading by 57. australian broadcasters project that at least four states of its six will vote against altering the 122 year old constitution on prime minister anthony albanese, who championed , championed the who championed, championed the plans, admitted the result is not what we'd hoped for and says the country must seek a new way fonnard . and you can get more on fonnard. and you can get more on all of these stories by visiting our website, gbviews@gbnews.com. now it's back to . martin now it's back to. martin >> thank you very much for that
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update, elizabeth. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. martin daubney on your tv online and on your digital radio. well, pro—palestinian demonstrations are taking place around the world after this week's events in gaza . but several countries, in gaza. but several countries, including france , have banned including france, have banned the rallies after fears of showing undue support for hamas . showing undue support for hamas. well, joining me now is gb news reporter tony mcguire, who's at a rally in glasgow . so hello to a rally in glasgow. so hello to you there , tony. so we've got you there, tony. so we've got a big demo in london, about 10,000 people expected peaceful so far. what's the picture in glasgow ? what's the picture in glasgow? >> and. >> and. >> well, certainly it's just about to begin here around 2:00. >> and here in glasgow at the top of buchanan street on the steps which so often is used for these kind of public demonstrations, is just one of four cities around scotland, including dundee, aberdeen and edinburgh are all going to have these simultaneous protests kicking off at 2:00 today. now
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obviously, scotland has had its own headlines, as it were , this own headlines, as it were, this week related to the war in israel and palestine with humza yousafs mother in law still being trapped there and she posted yesterday. certainly our humza yousaf or should i say posted yesterday, words from her. and i think here in scotland certainly the mood here is very tentative. i'm surrounded by police officers in almost every cardinal direction . almost every cardinal direction. but like london, i would imagine that the idea is that everything will be fairly low key today and peaceful . and the number of peaceful. and the number of people here today will very much be dictated by other events going on in the city today. actually two separate pro—independence events. one, the chain of freedom stretching across the forth and clyde canal is ongoing. and there was also an independence march a little earlier from the west end over
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to glasgow green. so whether or not that will have any impact on attendance is unclear at this point. but certainly as we move into the afternoon now , quite a into the afternoon now, quite a heavy thoroughfare, as you may expect here on the main shopping street in glasgow and a saturday. so we can expect to see quite a crowd and certainly here on wednesday or thursday night. and there was a kind of an alternative pro—israel an alternative pro— israel collective an alternative pro—israel collective here. and again , collective here. and again, another peaceful demonstration to stop the war and to memorialise those who were lost in the conflict and the fighting over the last week. so still early days here, but hopefully, martin, by the next time , you martin, by the next time, you know, we come back up to glasgow and we'll have a little bit more to show and talk to you about. and certainly some people to talk to, to. >> okay, tony, thanks for that update from glasgow. let's hope it doesn't kick off. and a reminder, we're covering the protest in london till the
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protest march in london till the end of the show. 3 pm. please stay in touch for that. i'm still joined in the studio now by the former head of counter terrorism at the ministry of defence, major chip defence, major general chip chapman . chip, something we were chapman. chip, something we were talking about during break. talking about during the break. i you're you're keen to i know you're you're keen to talk the impact on talk about is the impact on british people not just in terms of protests, but in terms of the poundsin of protests, but in terms of the pounds in our pocket in particular for the middle east. of course, a huge supplier of oil . and of course, we are oil. and of course, we are dependent on imports because we don't have energy. so sovereignty, what could this israeli war and the broader ramifications mean for energy pnces ramifications mean for energy prices in britain ? prices in britain? >> well, if you're as old as me, you remember 50 years ago the strategic pre—emption on the yom kippur war, which led to the first oil crisis where oil pnces first oil crisis where oil prices tripled really over sort of months period , and the speed of months period, and the speed limits and uk motonnays were reduced to 50 miles an hour. and we had to caveat support to israel based on that. now we're
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not in that situation today because the main support of israel is us, which absolutely has energy sovereignty. now in a way, the in september the brent crude was was at about $94 a barrel. it was expected to go down to $80 a barrel in october. and if there were the worst case here, which is the iranians getting involved in a general conflict in the middle east, then they think that there might be a 5 to $20 hike in the cost of a barrel of oil . that would, of a barrel of oil. that would, of a barrel of oil. that would, of course, mean some inflation and oil prices going up, which would drive that as at today , would drive that as at today, the cost of a barrel of oil is $90.88. so there's no immediate impact. so it will really be if there's escalation in the middle east beyond what is happening at the moment with the involvement of hezbollah, the houthis , the of hezbollah, the houthis, the syrian front, which would drive that geopolitical risk premium , that geopolitical risk premium, which always happens when you've got uncertainty in geopolitical
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things. so it's the war fear premium, which would actually kick in if things go sort of slightly to the right of arc . slightly to the right of arc. and we do have an escalation . and we do have an escalation. >> okay, chip, joanne, thank you for that. and we are having a debate about with justin debate about that with justin urquhart later on, the urquhart stewart later on, the impact on impact of this war on oil suppues impact of this war on oil supplies the and the supplies and the pounds and the pence pocket that you're pence in your pocket that you're watching and listening to gb news with me. martin news saturday with me. martin daubney on daubney loads more coming up on today's including as today's show, including as the uk grows by 0.2% and the uk economy grows by 0.2% and the price of oil skyrockets . as we price of oil skyrockets. as we just mentioned, many fear world events could smash our fragile economy. i'll have the latest. all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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this evening. gb news is the people's . channel welcome back people's. channel welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv, onune martin daubney on your tv, online and your digital radio. >> the uk economy grew by >> now the uk economy grew by 0.2% this august, according to the office for national statistics. but are there more economic woes just around the corner, as fighting intensifies in gaza? could we see global inflation similar to that experience after the russian invasion of ukraine? well, joining me now to discuss this further is the director and co—founder of regionally, justin urquhart stewart . always urquhart stewart. always a pleasure, especially in those red brace days. so, look, are we about to go for the perfect
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storm? we've had an unusually mild october. a cold snap is coming, a choke in supply of oil and gas. israel has closed one of its tamar gas fields on monday. could we be heading for the perfect storm of a utility bill hike? >> well, it's almost feeling at the moment a change in the solstice. the weather's changed. everything to change. everything appears to change. >> we've had the obviously the horrors out of israel and horrors coming out of israel and gaza and so which way is it going to go? and it's very difficult to tell. i think one of the things probably of the things you probably can show happens show is that whatever happens this winter is probably going to be last year. there be as mild as last year. there will be constriction supply will be a constriction on supply because a constant because there will be a constant increase given increase in demand. and so given those for those issues, prepare for something. i think, worse than we're seeing. but hope for the best on that. but for heaven's sake, i'm sure all the governments realising they governments are realising they are now. are securing themselves now. bear time last bear in mind, this time last year people saying we year we had people saying we haven't gas, we're haven't got enough gas, we're going all the going to be stuck. all the governments not be true. governments may not be true. most governments are most of the governments are actually sitting there saying, we've into storage, we've put more into storage, we've got more supply behind us, or they're putting that
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we've got more supply behind us, or out. ey're putting that we've got more supply behind us, or out. and putting that we've got more supply behind us, or out. and that'sg that message out. and that's important. so it's not as bad as it would have been last year. however we've got an issue of now two wars operating , now two wars operating, obviously with ukraine and down in israel. and so all of that means that the political elements will have much, much more impact than before. just the old fashioned economic issues of growth, of which you said we've seen some, but in effect, we're flat lining . but effect, we're flat lining. but even i'm quite happy even actually i'm quite happy with it have with flat lining. it could have been worse . so we go into been a lot worse. so we go into winter, afraid it's still winter, i'm afraid it's still going be pretty dull looking going to be pretty dull looking economic afraid economic stuff, but i'm afraid what people have to do as consumer prepare for the worst in do your insulation, in terms of do your insulation, cut back as you cut everything back as you possibly and shop around and possibly can and shop around and but is coming down. but inflation is coming down. but basic heating stuff but that basic heating stuff isn't going to change. but that basic heating stuff isn'buting to change. but that basic heating stuff isn'but itg to change. but that basic heating stuff isn'but it is.o change. but that basic heating stuff isn'but it is good nge. but that basic heating stuff isn'but it is good to a. but that basic heating stuff isn'but it is good to hear, >> but it is good to hear, though, just at least they've planned this time. so they planned ahead this time. so they have the warnings have heeded some of the warnings of yes. of last time. yes. >> i'm afraid that's >> i mean, and i'm afraid that's the that. then the government's done that. then as and families, as individuals and as families, we should doing the same. and we should be doing the same. and don't actually. well, don't think that actually. well, it'll winter. be it'll it'll be winter. it'll be it'll be all after that. we've
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be all right after that. we've entered era of fuel. entered a new era of fuel. poverty fuel availability , poverty of fuel availability, which really is so used to having turn on the tap. it's there now. we must get used to there now. we must get used to the of being far more the fact of being far more controlled over. it may not sound encouraging, the sound very encouraging, but the background it and this is background to it is, and this is the we often to the bit we never often get to see most of the media is see on most of the media is actually the global economy is still growing. is to going actually the global economy is sti|vitalwing. is to going actually the global economy is sti|vitalwirthis is to going actually the global economy is sti|vitalwirthis because) going actually the global economy is sti|vitalwirthis because it'sing be vital in this because it's slowing but needs to slowing down. but china needs to get growing because get its economy growing because domestically a communist party isn't very strong. if you've got local going there . local problems going on, there. same with the us with their election coming up, same with the us with their election coming up , that's election coming up, that's liable, think, to disturb liable, i think, to disturb things they'll be things because they'll be looking at potential trump , the looking at potential trump, the man who probably, you know he's got he thinks he's going to be president anyway and the other one who probably remember one who probably can't remember that still president. that he is still president. so combination two is not combination of those two is not going to actually lead to, i think, in chip think, much confidence in chip chapman minute talking think, much confidence in chip chapnthe minute talking think, much confidence in chip chapnthe true minute talking think, much confidence in chip chapnthe true powerte talking think, much confidence in chip chapnthe true power that talking think, much confidence in chip chapnthe true power that the lking about the true power that the middle is that ability middle east has is that ability to choke off oil and gas. >> we saw it. i'm old enough to remember the opec crisis . this
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remember the opec crisis. this is a longer term strategic way out of this of that old fashioned concept of energy sovereignty. i mean , america, sovereignty. i mean, america, for example, is greatly in isolated from this because it's self sufficient in its own energy. and yet we seem hell bent on disallowing ing our own resourcing of our own oil and gas. i mean , it is very strange, gas. i mean, it is very strange, isn't it, because you've got this issue, people quite rightly saying, look, we're in a world we must protect ourselves. saying, look, we're in a world we we'veyrotect ourselves. saying, look, we're in a world we we've gotect ourselves. saying, look, we're in a world we we've got a. ourselves. saying, look, we're in a world we we've got a morallves. >> we've got a moral environmental. but number one, we're environmental. we've we're being environmental. we've got sure our got to be able to make sure our population can survive. and we don't just freeze ourselves and starve penury . so starve ourselves into penury. so there's here. and the there's a balance here. and the balance has to be look in the shorter term, you've got to make sure you're able to your sure you're able to use your resources. we've actually resources. and if we've actually got field coming on, got now a new field coming on, that will give us last very long, it'll be few more years, long, it'll be a few more years, but it gives us time but it gives us more time to make adjustment. i know make those adjustment. s i know we're cynical over, make those adjustment. s i know we'regreen cynical over, make those adjustment. s i know we're green alternatives, yer, make those adjustment. s i know we'regreen alternatives, but over green alternatives, but look at percentage that look at the percentage that alternative power can give us. even if you're including nuclear, which only a few nuclear, which is only a few years wasn't seen as being
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years ago, wasn't seen as being green. actually we have a future where give ourselves where we can give ourselves greater of course, greater support. yes, of course, wind but not wind is important but not reliable. we can do much more with like tidal the with things like tidal as the french have done, and longer term , actually i can see smaller term, actually i can see smaller power stations are powered by atomic power, actually on a much smaller localised scale. so that's more encouraging. but the most thing the most important thing the government can do at the moment is give solid tax incentives for all victorian houses to be all our victorian houses to be properly insulated. worry properly insulated. don't worry the hold on to the the power just hold on to the pa, keep it in your house here, here to that. >> thank you. always pleasure, >> thank you. always a pleasure, justine. thanks forjoining us on show today. superb okay. on the show today. superb okay. moving next story. moving on to our next story. number confirmed the number 10 has confirmed that the uk navy ships uk will deploy royal navy ships to middle east to bolster to the middle east to bolster security in the region. we're sending two navy ships and sending two royal navy ships and surveillance aircraft to the eastern mediterranean to track threats to regional stability, such as the transfer of weapons to terrorist groups. well, joining me now is defence analyst, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford . hello there, stuart crawford. hello there, colonel crawford. always a pleasure. what's the significance of the uk deploying
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craft to the area? is it to show support to israel or is it preparing for something more advanced ? advanced? >> good afternoon. yes, i think that it >> good afternoon. yes, i think thatitis >> good afternoon. yes, i think that it is primarily contingent planning, if you like, showing support to both the israeli and the palestinian people caught up , the innocent people caught up in this conflict . , the innocent people caught up in this conflict. but and also showing that we are with the united states, which, as you know, is an aircraft carrier group with a destroyer and cruiser and four destroyers into the area as well. but we're not sending warships per se or as we would understand them, we're sending two royal fleet auxiliaries , one of which is auxiliaries, one of which is a logistics support vessel, and the other is a medical vessel with about 100 beds together with about 100 beds together with 100 royal marines who are pretty elite troops. and
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helicopters to ferry people around. but the other thing i think i should mention is that we are the uk actually has a permanent aircraft carrier in that part of the world and that's cyprus , where we have two that's cyprus, where we have two sovereign base areas . and sovereign base areas. and importantly, raf akrotiri akrotiri where we can fly more or less whatever aircraft we wish in and out of that region. so we're there already. this is just an augmentation in and how much of this lieutenant colonel crawford is symbolic , totemic in crawford is symbolic, totemic in as far as what people are concerned about now is the broader destabilisation of the middle east and in particular, iran getting involved. >> so how important is western military support from america, from britain to make sure that iran stays in its lane ? iran stays in its lane? >> oh, very important indeed . i >> oh, very important indeed. i mean, the presence of the us fleet , as i've mentioned in the
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fleet, as i've mentioned in the eastern mediterranean, is basically a deterrence . and to basically a deterrence. and to groups like iran or the iranian backed hezbollah saying if you're thinking of getting involved in gaza, think again. because, you know, they wield a big stick. so i think iran will be minded to keep out of getting directly involved in gaza from what i understand at the moment. but no doubt will go on supplying weaponry and other suppues supplying weaponry and other supplies to groups like hezbollah if it can get away with it, because that's really what they've been doing for many years now . yea i's now. >> years now. >> and how significant or effective do you think has joe biden's response been because there was a lot of criticism early on about the $6 billion that biden has pumped into the iranian regime, emboldening them was the kind of implication. but he has been robust in responding and offering assistance to israel. and that is vital now, isn't it, to maintain peace across the broader area ? across the broader area? >> indeed , the us approach to
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>> indeed, the us approach to iran is basically a very fine balancing act and i think that by committing the £6 billion of which i think we're came from sort of frozen assets back in return for various other things, was part of the overall diplomacy. as i understand it, the qataris are actually administering that $6 billion. so it hasn't necessarily flowed or flowed straight into iranian bank accounts. but there's no doubt about the us position here at the moment. doubt about the us position here at the moment . they stand doubt about the us position here at the moment. they stand four square behind israel as they have always done, and i don't think they will in any way allow their allow their main ally in their allow their main ally in the middle to east be attacked and destroyed . and destroyed. >> and for now . so how confident >> and for now. so how confident are you that this war is going to be contained just within the confines of gaza and not spread further afield throughout the middle east? >> well, i'm fairly confident at the moment. i think what we're seeing is that the israeli government and the israeli defence force, the idf , is
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defence force, the idf, is taking a phased approach to eliminating hamas. and in doing so , the first phase was repelled so, the first phase was repelled the attack, the second phase, stealing the border and amassing troops . the third phase, perhaps troops. the third phase, perhaps the air attacks , taking out the air attacks, taking out communications and command centres and the next phase is without any shadow of a doubt now is going to be taking over, invading and occupying . northern invading and occupying. northern gaza, particularly gaza city , gaza, particularly gaza city, where hamas has its their lieutenant colonel stuart grover, thank you for joining us today on gb news saturday. >> watching and listening >> you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney loads more on today's first, let's martin daubney loads more on todaja; first, let's martin daubney loads more on todaja look first, let's martin daubney loads more on todaja look fiall let's take a look at your all important weather with jonathan. >> there. i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vaucher here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by office. it is big by the met office. it is big coat many of us this coat weather for many of us this weekend. rather cold around in places some showers to places and some showers to contend with well, contend with as well, particularly west. and particularly in the west. and the be wintry over the north will be wintry over the north will be wintry over the ground of scotland. the higher ground of scotland. most of the showers, though,
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this overnight this evening and overnight will ease for areas, ease off for inland areas, probably , though, for probably persisting, though, for coastal might through probably persisting, though, for coa:cheshire might through probably persisting, though, for coa:cheshire gap|ht through probably persisting, though, for coa:cheshire gap|ht well. through the cheshire gap as well. underneath the clear skies we see inland, though, temperatures will dropping off. will certainly be dropping off. could be the coldest night of autumn so far , dropping below autumn so far, dropping below freezing in a lot rural freezing in a lot of rural areas. so chilly start areas. so quite a chilly start to sunday morning, but it will be also a rather bright and sunny of the sunny one for many of us. the showers off widely showers easing off widely compared today, persisting , compared to today, persisting, though, across the north of scotland cloudy though, across the north of sc general, cloudy though, across the north of sc general, but cloudy though, across the north of sc general, but elsewhere cloudy though, across the north of sc general, but elsewhere ,loudy though, across the north of sc general, but elsewhere , there in general, but elsewhere, there will be a good number of sunny intervals throughout the day. lighter as well. so lighter winds as well. so hopefully feeling a touch better compared today. but still, compared to today. but still, temperatures doing no better than 10 to 13 c. so rather cold as well. as we head into monday, high pressure is looking like it is going to cling on. so keeping things relatively fine and settled for vast majority of settled for the vast majority of us. showers again, probably us. the showers again, probably persisting across some far northern at times, maybe northern areas at times, maybe pushing southeast as pushing into the southeast as well. a little bit of mist and fog around first thing in the morning. clearing its way morning. that clearing its way off, but could a bit of a
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off, but could be a bit of a cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloud is cloud around. so the sunshine is much to the much hazier compared to the weekend. pressure looks weekend. the high pressure looks like it will cling on into the middle part of the week, though. temperatures also rising up a touch by. temperatures also rising up a tou thank)y. temperatures also rising up a tou thank you very much for that >> thank you very much for that update jonathan. there's loads >> thank you very much for that updatcominglan. there's loads >> thank you very much for that updatcoming up there's loads >> thank you very much for that updatcoming up on ere's loads >> thank you very much for that updatcoming up on thes loads >> thank you very much for that updatcoming up on the showis >> thank you very much for that updatcoming up on the show in more coming up on the show in the hour, including the the final hour, including the latest israeli hamas war latest on the israeli hamas war as thousands flee north gaza after the idf's evacuation order. all of that and much more to come. i'm martin dalby and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news
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hello and welcome to gb news saturday. i'm martin daubney and for the next hour i'll be keeping you company on your tv onune keeping you company on your tv online and on your digital radio. coming up in this hour, tens of thousands of civilians in the gaza strip are fleeing south after israel gave palestinians living there just 24 hours to flee. we'll bring you all the very latest in what's happening in the middle east. landers protests erupt across europe. thousands of people have taken to the streets of london to march in a pro—palestinian demo. police have warned that anybody showing support for hamas or even deviating from the agreed route could face immediate arrest and convicted rapists and burglars will be temporarily spared from going to jail from next week after judges warned the country's prisons are full. i'll be joined by a former convict to
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see how he thinks we can fix this problem . and as ever, this problem. and as ever, please do get in touch. send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or message me on our socials. of course . we're on our socials. of course. we're at gb news. but first, here's your news headlines with elizabeth callahan . elizabeth callahan. >> it's a few minutes past two. i'm elizabeth callahan in the newsroom. the window israel gave palestine means to flee from the north of gaza along two main routes without being harmed has now closed . hamas says nine now closed. hamas says nine captives, including four foreigners, have been killed following israeli airstrikes in the region overnight . the united the region overnight. the united states has negotiated an agreement with israel, qatar and egypt to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing today. these are the latest pictures you can see smoke rising over the northern parts of gaza . here in these
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parts of gaza. here in these pictures now , israel defence pictures now, israel defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory . this is the first territory. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's hamas assault. israel's air force say it has killed the hamas commander who led the cross—border attack on israel's settlements last saturday. the country also says hamas is still holding at least 120 hostages. israeli media reports bodies of captives have been found during raids . the been found during raids. the united nations is warning that over 2 million people are at risk as water runs out and humanitarian aid is blocked from going into gaza . airstrikes going into gaza. airstrikes through the night has flattened sections of the north of the city. palestinian rescue team was hit by a missile while they were attempting to care for wounded. among the rubble . the wounded. among the rubble. the israeli military says it's destroying hamas targets in its strikes and has killed dozens
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from the militant group . from the militant group. casualties are being brought to hospitals in south gaza as tens of thousands struggle to flee the shelling. israeli journalist johan johan confino told gb news that if those being told to move do not do so , the death toll do not do so, the death toll could rise to much higher numbers . numbers. >> well, the latest is that there were just rockets fired over tel aviv , so i had to run over tel aviv, so i had to run for shelter just a couple of minutes ago. but, of course , minutes ago. but, of course, there is another situation which is more focussed on right now, and that is gaza, which is experiencing heavy bombardment by israel and israel is, of course, encouraging civilians to move from the northern part of the gaza strip to the southern part. and i was just on an idf briefing, a military briefing, where they said that they had announce safe corridors announce it to safe corridors where people can move safely for around six hours. and, of course , they're hoping civilians will
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do that because if they don't, the death toll in gaza will rise significantly . the israeli army significantly. the israeli army says it's looking into the incidents surrounding the death of a reuters journalist in southern lebanon. >> the lebanese army says an israeli missile killed reuters video journalist ism. o'donnell, who was killed on friday when missiles struck him and a group of other journalists near the border. where israeli military have been engaged with fighting with hezbollah . lebanon's with hezbollah. lebanon's foreign ministry says it will submit a formal complaint to the un security council over what it calls israel's deliberate killing. six other journalists were injured. the un secretary—general says the incident shows there's the danger of violence spreading . danger of violence spreading. >> i want to say how much this demonstrates the enormous risk of spill—over of this conflict .
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of spill—over of this conflict. >> well, here in the uk, counter—terrorism police are reviewing 55 new cases of potential terrorist content onune potential terrorist content online amid amid the israel—hamas conflict. the israel— hamas conflict. the metropolitan israel—hamas conflict. the metropolitan police say there's been a significant number of referrals from the public. the force is encouraging people to report content that appears to incite terrorist violence or activity. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism legislation . breach uk terrorism legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism% author victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene showing the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcasting house as she arrived for work this morning. the metropolitan police say the incident has not yet been linked to any protest group . thousands of protesters are marching through central london in a pro—palestinian
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demonstration in the met. police have deployed over 1000 officers and are warning anyone showing support for hamas will face arrest. protests are also taking place in glasgow, dublin and other cities across the world to show solidarity with palestine. a week on from hamas's attack on israel . australia has voted no israel. australia has voted no in a controversial referendum to officially recognise indigenous people in its constitution . with people in its constitution. with over half the votes counted , the over half the votes counted, the no vote is leading by at least 57. australian broadcasters project that at least four states of atsic's will vote against altering the 122 year old constitution . prime minister old constitution. prime minister anthony albanese , who championed anthony albanese, who championed the plans, admitted the result is not what we hoped for and says the country must seek a new way fonnard . this is gb news way fonnard. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on
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your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . martin >> and thank you very much for that update, elizabeth. okay, let's get stuck into today's hot topic . tens of thousands of topic. tens of thousands of civilians in the gaza strip are attempting to flee south as a six hour window. the idf gave residents there has now just elapsed yesterday , the idf told elapsed yesterday, the idf told over 1 million gazans to flee from the northern half of the strip to south of wadi gaza. the united nations says the order is horrendous as well. before the order, over 400,000 palestinians have been displaced due to fighting and the death toll in gaza from israeli airstrikes has now risen to over 1900. israeli prime minister netanyahu said last night that the week long bombardment of gaza was only the beginning. well, a reporter , beginning. well, a reporter, charles boisvenu . we are
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charles boisvenu. we are striking at our enemies with unprecedented might. >> i emphasise, this is just the beginning. >> our enemies have only begun paying >> our enemies have only begun paying the price . paying the price. >> i won't detail what is yet to come, but i tell you this is only the beginning . only the beginning. >> well, our reporter charlie peters is live now with us in tel aviv. charlie. so the window of escape has now expired. we're expect getting this now to advance towards the next stage of the ground war. what's the latest ? yes the time limit of the ground war. what's the latest? yes the time limit has now elapsed on that 4 pm. deadune now elapsed on that 4 pm. deadline for what the israeli defence forces described as a safe humanitarian corridor from 10 am. to 4 pm. today after it made that demand of all gazans in the north of the strip to move down below the wadi gaza . move down below the wadi gaza. >> about halfway down the strip . >> about halfway down the strip. but was that corridor ever safe
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at all? we've had reports this morning of airstrikes on convoys moving south. hamas saying that 70 civilians were killed yesterday day. and in footage we've not yet been able to verify, does show that several people died in that strike on a convoy. some of them, including children and women, to. but as that corridor elapses and people move south, it's not clear at this point how many civilians have made it. hospitals in north gaza , they say they cannot move. gaza, they say they cannot move. they have critically injured civilians inside . they cannot civilians inside. they cannot move their medical teams out of that location. and so the idf run that serious risk of hundreds of thousands of civilians remaining in the north at the same time as that a couple of hours ago, we broke the news that the us had brokered a deal with the egyptians and the qataris to open the rafah crossing with egypt to allow more civilians to seek new safe routes out of the territory. as we understand that
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crossing has yet to open . and so crossing has yet to open. and so we still have hundreds of thousands of people on the move and no escape out of the gaza strip. it's understood that egypt doesn't necessarily want that crossing to open because it might leave palestinians unable to return if and when this conflict does reduce in intensity . the question now for intensity. the question now for the israeli defence forces is one of proportion banality. it's clear what they want to do next. they want to soften the ground for a potential ground invasion with heavy bombardment, you might say the bombardment has already been very heavy , but it already been very heavy, but it could get worse. they could use heavier munitions on many of heavier munitions on so many of those targets in the north of the strip. and if you think of gaza as a as a place of two layers, on the top is that civilian layer where we know 1.1 million people live in the north, but underneath underground are 500km of underground there are 500km of tunnels used by hamas terrorists to gather their supplies and store their personnel in safety . store their personnel in safety. this allows them to keep rockets
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and also prepare for surprise attacks on any idf forces who choose to enter. so can the idf strike those locations and knock out hamas military capabilities, which is their stated mission, and be proportional in that mission while so many civilians are still in the location? many commentator says there are not certain that they can do that. they think the risk is severe and that this grave humanitarian situation, grave humanitarian situation, grave humanitarian situation will become a catastrophe if israel continues with its plans to invade. as so many civilians remain in the north. >> okay, charlie peters, thank you for that live update from tel aviv. and we're showing pictures coming in now, live pictures coming in now, live pictures from gaza. you can see smoke rising from the continued bombardment of the gaza strip by the idf as this wall now advances to its next stage. and on that note, i'm joined back in the studio by major general chip chapman, who's been with us throughout the show today . chip, throughout the show today. chip, we are now moving towards the
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next stage of this conflict station, something i'm fascinated about is the concept of the number of hostages of people who were kidnapped last saturday from israel, taken back to the gaza strip. we have information, as many as 120 report that they're going to be used as human shields . how on used as human shields. how on earth do you try and extract out people like that from what is now rapidly becoming a complete war zone? how does that procedure work? >> well , the first thing to do >> well, the first thing to do with hostage rescue is generally there are two plans, which is based on how time passes . the based on how time passes. the first one, which we're beyond , first one, which we're beyond, is the immediate response. could we go now just after they've been captured? obviously, they didn't . and the second one is didn't. and the second one is the deliberate response . so the the deliberate response. so the real between real difference between an immediate , which immediate response, which we are past deliberate response past and a deliberate response is, chances of success or is, is the chances of success or the chances of death both for the chances of death both for the force which is going to rescue and for the hostages. because mission success in these operations is really based on
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bringing the force back and bringing the force back and bringing hostages back alive bringing the hostages back alive . so you need intelligence development . that is what the development. that is what the deliberate response is all about . can be either by . and that can be either by technical means, by human intelligence , means by overhead intelligence, means by overhead satellites that sort of thing. so once you've done the intelligence development, then you need an intelligence soak over the target that you want to hit, which allows the force to go in with a sanitised area around it to make sure no one can be interfered with. that is overhead assets either drones or aircraft loitering around to make sure that the area is sanitised before the rescue force goes in and hopefully successfully extracts the hostages. >> and we saw video footage earlier of hamas troops. it appeared to be with israeli children and babies. how how commonplace is that? that horrifying prospect of using children as human shields? well like all international humanity ,
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like all international humanity, korean war, non—combatants , korean war, non—combatants, immunity should be one of the principles is which hamas also works towards in the same way that the israelis should also be trying to work towards that. >> so laws of armed conflict should apply to all forces . it's should apply to all forces. it's absolutely abhorrent that either side kills children , either side kills children, either deliberately or accidentally in war. some of that's going to happen. but it should not be a deliberate act of policy. >> and we're just now seeing fresh images, live images from goals huge plumes goals. you can see huge plumes of smoke of freshly deployed weaponry there, significant escalation. it looks so bearing in mind, chip, that the window of departure has just closed some 15 minutes ago. and there now seems to be an upscaling of the attack. you can see fresh explosions there. chip yeah , i explosions there. chip yeah, i wouldn't necessarily say that we've reached the point of denouement for the ground attack. >> i think because of the involvement of the qataris, egyptians and the us , you'll see
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egyptians and the us, you'll see a little bit more soap time in terms of the humanitarian corridor. i think what these pictures show is the israelis still going through what we would call their joint prioritised target list . that prioritised target list. that is, they're looking for hamas or dual use military targets to hit before they go in for a ground invasion . so i'm not convinced invasion. so i'm not convinced yet that there's been a ground invasion. i think the pressure will still be maintained on the targets which are identified by some of those assets i mentioned. in terms of hostage rescue, until we get to the point when a ground assault takes place, if indeed it does. but i think it's a high probability that it will. >> okay, major general chip chapman, thank you for joining us on the show. and that expert analysis as ever. okay, closer to home now, thousands of people have taken to the streets of london in a march to support pro—palestinian demonstrators as police have warned that anyone showing support for hamas or even deviating from the agreed route could face immediate arrest . well, joining me now is
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arrest. well, joining me now is gb news political correspondent catherine forster, who's been there since the beginning of this march. at midday, catherine is approaching its final hour now, going towards whitehall . now, going towards whitehall. are the police promised to clamp down on anybody being too inflammatory? what's the actual mood been like on the ground? any signs of trouble or has it been largely peaceful so far ? been largely peaceful so far? >> largely peaceful. at the moment, it's extremely busy as you can see, we're now on the trafalgar square, end of whitehall . only 2 or 3 minutes whitehall. only 2 or 3 minutes walk from number 10 downing street . now, looking back behind street. now, looking back behind the camera to up to trafalgar square , there are hundreds and square, there are hundreds and hundreds of people still making their way down this protest began up near the bbc about a mile from here and no sign of it slowing. i haven't seen in any trouble the police did make it very clear what they were
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looking for, what they would not consider acceptable . there's consider acceptable. there's estimated to be about 10,000 people that have come along . people that have come along. there's a thousand police, including police on horses and armed police as well. they've warned protesters not to deviate from the marked route that they've put out and handed out and said if you deviate from this route, you might be arrested. also any hamas flags or hezbollah flags? both, of course , flags of proscribed course, flags of proscribed terrorist organisers , locations terrorist organisers, locations that would also constitute a crime. and would be subject to potential arrest . but i haven't potential arrest. but i haven't seen anything like that. lots of chants of free, free palestine , chants of free, free palestine, fewer chants of israel is a terrorist state, but a real range of people here, as i'm talking now, there's a child probably about two years old, asleep in a buggy, has been toddlers riding on their parents shoulders , little babies on the shoulders, little babies on the front of their mothers chests
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and older people as well. disabled people, dogs. it has been peaceful of course, things can always change, but at the moment there doesn't seem to have been any trouble to my knowledge. and interestingly , knowledge. and interestingly, outside abercrombie and fitch , outside abercrombie and fitch, there were some hasidic jews saying that they stood with palestine feeling that palestine has not had a fair deal. of course, we have pro—palestine protests very frequently, don't we? but this one particularly charged , given that it's a week. charged, given that it's a week. exactly since hamas terrorists rammed into israel, killed hundreds of people, babies, children and old people, slaughter . and then took about slaughter. and then took about 150 hostages back into gaza, including 85 year old women who were taken out of bed in their night dresses . five year old night dresses. five year old boys, absolute , utterly boys, absolute, utterly horrific. but this march wanting
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to draw focus to the plight, as they see it, of the people now in gaza , those 2.3 million in gaza, those 2.3 million people who no , that israel are people who no, that israel are coming looking for the hostages and telling them to get out and get to the south. but no food , get to the south. but no food, no water, no power . a desperate no water, no power. a desperate situation for people in gaza as well as a terribly worrying situation for people in israel and of course, for jews up situation for people in israel and of course, forjews up and and of course, for jews up and down the country and throughout the west. >> okay, catherine forster , >> okay, catherine forster, thanks for that update from that march , which is currently live march, which is currently live in london. and if anything kicks off, cut back over there off, we'll cut back over there before a lot of people don't think that should even go ahead. in fact, we debate earlier in fact, we had a debate earlier on this. and in fact, we had a debate earlier oncourse this. and in fact, we had a debate earlier on course , this. and in fact, we had a debate earlier on course , such this. and in fact, we had a debate earlier oncourse , such demoshis. and in fact, we had a debate earlier on course , such demos have.nd in fact, we had a debate earlier on course , such demos have been of course, such demos have been outlawed that outlawed in paris. remember that next time you say that we are an oppressive regime in the uk. now as the world anxiously awaits updates the over 100 updates regarding the over 100 hostages taken by hamas from the israel into gaza , gb news israel into gaza, gb news reporter charlie peters has
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spoken to the mothers of some of those missing in the chaos . those missing in the chaos. >> this maya, my daughter 21 years old in itai, my son, 18 years old in itai, my son, 18 years old in itai, my son, 18 years old and shabbat. years old in itai, my son, 18 years old and shabbat . mirit years old and shabbat. mirit woke up on saturday, october 7th in 10 am. and discovered that everything . come to maya. everything. come to maya. >> she woke up with a message from her daughter maya, and she said to me, maya sent her that there were missiles . ls and there were missiles. ls and she's okay. she's hiding. don't worry . everything is . okay here worry. everything is. okay here at 8 am, mirit received another text message from maya. there's a lot of mess in here. we're trying to get our way back home. few minutes . we will come back. few minutes. we will come back. there is police all over the
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place. >> i still don't to vote. de—man >> i still don't to vote. de—man >> later she received two text messages from maya. mom, i love you. so, so, so much. if i don't have a battery, please call to itai. she received many phone calls from many numbers. she called back one of them. it was it his friends . called back one of them. it was it his friends. he told called back one of them. it was it his friends . he told her. it his friends. he told her. mirit, you have to open the tv. there is a lot of mess in the south. and she called the father her ilan. and he told her that in. 8:58 am. maya sent him a message voice message that they're shooting at me. please come to pick me up and hung up. she sent him a location , a she sent him a location, a location, and he went to search for her all over the place . for her all over the place. >> maya so on saturday many videos were posted online. >> in one of the videos, they recognised the italian maya together with a friend of them. everyone were running all over the place. they were walking but
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they recognised they were together. the three of them . together. the three of them. >> they . >> they. >> they. >> that was the last time confirmed they saw them together. but in the meantime, ilan, the father, went to search for them in the south. they had so many hope that they will just come out of a bush that they were hiding. but in the night of october 7th, they received a video. in that video, they saw itai with his friend handcuffed in a vehicle of hamas in the back of the vehicle of hamas. that's how they found out that itai is abducted. since the last message . she doesn't know what's message. she doesn't know what's going on with maya, but 45 hours, the abduction , they the hours, the abduction, they the israeli army come to confirm that both italian and maya, they saw in their phone location they are abducted by hamas . they are abducted by hamas. they don't know whether what's the situation with them, but they know for sure that they're there i >> that must have been the most appalling moment when the idf , appalling moment when the idf, the army, told you that your
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children had been taken by these terrorists . terrorists. >> and she says it's absurd . but >> and she says it's absurd. but they they were so relieved to know that their abducted because that means that they're not 100% dead. that gives them hope that they might be alive. so it was a nightmare, but they have hope. she believes they must come back. but she knows that each day that passes, we see it's more and more dangerous . and more and more dangerous. and that's why she wants to raise the awareness, because there sevilla that they only wanted was to celebrate in a peace rave . there's such a young , . there's such a young, optimistic people that want that they were talking about this party all the time. they wanted to dance and they would never know they will end up by hamas , know they will end up by hamas, she said. it's even more horrible thing because it's a peace rave. it's young people , peace rave. it's young people, civilians that harm no one. they they were talking about this party for weeks or heartbreaking
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stories. >> i'm still joining the studio by former head of counterterrorism for the mod major general chip chapman chip as well as the extraction of those hostages , as the israelis those hostages, as the israelis seem now intent on vengeance for what happened a week ago. what do you think is going to happen next? well the first thing is that when we look at the causes of war, those who study political sort of theology and philosophy say that there philosophy always say that there are of war, are only three causes of war, fear, or interest. fear, honour or interest. >> three of those are >> all three of those are present. going to get present. so we are going to get a situation from the a vengeful situation from the israelis. very israelis. i think we're very close decision point of close to the decision point of the ground operation gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen d operation gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen you eration gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen you havenn gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen you have to gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen you have to say gaza. close to the decision point of the ithen you have to say what and then you have to say what happens after that from other potential adversaries, from the israelis ? the first one to look israelis? the first one to look at is whether that leads to hezbollah on the northern front in lebanon intervening. now, this is a different proposition to hamas. far more capable. we believe they might have 150,000 rockets. and one of the things that israel has been doing over the past few years is attacking some of the supply routes into
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syria from the iranians to stop the precision project as they call it, because some of those rockets are very high calibre rockets are very high calibre rockets which could hit jerusalem , tel aviv. so that's jerusalem, tel aviv. so that's the first thing to look at. the second thing to look at would be what do the americans then do in terms of going any further than their deterrence posture and whether that leads to the intervention of the houthis and their rocket forces , also their rocket forces, also enabled by the iranians from the yemen, because one of the things from the iranian approach is they do look at the unity of fronts and what they call the ring of fire, which surrounds in a 360 degree arc, israel . and a 360 degree arc, israel. and that's the big problem which israel faces if they go in in terms of their defensive posture for the future. >> okay. thank you for your expert throughout expert analysis all throughout today's . major—general chip today's show. major—general chip chapman. you very much. chapman. thank you very much. and live pictures there on screen we just had of the continuing pounding of gaza. are you watching and listening to gb news with martin news saturday with me? martin daubney yet up news saturday with me? martin
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daitoday's yet up news saturday with me? martin daitoday's show. yet up news saturday with me? martin daitoday's show. butyet up news saturday with me? martin daitoday's show. but first, up on today's show. but first, let's take look your let's take a look at your weather with jonathan. >> hello there. i'm .jonathan >> hello there. i'm. jonathan vaucher here with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. it is big coat for weather many of us this weekend. rather cold around in places showers to places and some showers to contend with as well, particularly west the contend with as well, particwill.y west the contend with as well, particwill be west the contend with as well, particwill be wintry'est the contend with as well, particwill be wintry over the:he north will be wintry over the higher ground of scotland. most of the showers, though, this evening will ease evening and overnight will ease off areas, probably off for inland areas, probably persisting, coastal off for inland areas, probably persis might coastal off for inland areas, probably persis might through stal areas might push through the cheshire well. underneath cheshire gap as well. underneath the clear skies see inland, the clear skies we see inland, though, temperatures will certainly off. could certainly be dropping off. could be night of autumn be the coldest night of autumn so , dropping below freezing so far, dropping below freezing in rural areas. so in a lot of rural areas. so quite chilly start to sunday quite a chilly start to sunday morning, but it will be also a rather bright and sunny one for many of us. the showers easing off widely to today, off widely compared to today, persisting, though, the persisting, though, across the north of where it will north of scotland where it will be in general, but be cloudy in general, but elsewhere, be good elsewhere, there will be a good number intervals number of sunny intervals throughout day . lighter throughout the day. lighter winds well. so hopefully winds as well. so hopefully feeling a touch better compared to . still, to today. but still, temperatures no better temperatures doing no better than 10 to 13 c. so rather cold
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as well as we head into monday. high pressure is looking like it is going to cling on. so keeping things relatively fine and settled for the vast majority of us.the settled for the vast majority of us. the showers again, probably persisting across some far northern times, maybe northern areas at times, maybe pushing into the southeast as well , or a little bit of mist well, or a little bit of mist and fog around first thing in the clearing its the morning. that clearing its way could be a bit way off, but could be a bit of a cloudier day. wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloud sunshine to cloud around. so the sunshine to touch compared to the touch hazier compared to the weekend. high pressure looks weekend. the high pressure looks like it will cling on into the middle of week, though. middle part of the week, though. temperatures also rising up a touch by. touch by by. >> thank you very much, >> and thank you very much, jonathan. there's more jonathan. there's loads more coming today's show coming up on today's show including as anti—semitism skyrockets in the uk. we'll have the latest on how the authorities are trying to clamp down on these appalling racist attacks. all that and more to attacks. all of that and more to come. i'm martin daubney and you're watching listening you're watching and listening to gb
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news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . and it's britain's news channel. and it's just after 230. >> i'm elizabeth callahan in the newsroom . the window israel gave newsroom. the window israel gave palestine aliens to flee from the north of gaza along two main routes without being harmed has now closed . hamas says nine now closed. hamas says nine captives, including four foreigners, have been killed following israeli airstrikes in the region overnight . the united the region overnight. the united states has negotiated an agreement with israel, qatar and egypt to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing today .
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border crossing today. meanwhile, israeli defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's attacks by hamas. israel's air force say it's killed ali kadi. the hamas commander who led the assault on israeli settlements last saturday. israel says hamas is still holding at least 120 hostages. israeli media reports bodies of captives have been found during raids here in the uk. counter—terrorism police are reviewing 55 new cases of potential terrorist content onune potential terrorist content online amid the israel—hamas conflict at the metropolitan. police say there's been a significant number of referrals from the public. the force is encouraging people to report content that appears to incite terrorist violence or activity . terrorist violence or activity. the police will also work with tech companies to remove content assessed to breach uk terrorism
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legislation . the entrance to bbc legislation. the entrance to bbc headquarters in london has been sprayed in red paint in an apparent targeted act of vandalism. presenter victoria derbyshire posted images of the scene showing the vandalised doors and brickwork of broadcasting house as she arrived for work this morning. the metropolitan police say the incidents are not yet been unked incidents are not yet been linked to any protest group . linked to any protest group. well, thousands of protesters are marching through london in a pro palestinian demonstration today . the metropolitan police today. the metropolitan police have deployed over 1000 officers and are warning anyone showing support for hamas that they will face arrest. protests are also taking place in glasgow , dublin taking place in glasgow, dublin and other cities across the world to show solidarity with palestine . in a week on from palestine. in a week on from hamas attack on israel , hamas attack on israel, australia has voted no in a controversial referendum to official recognise indigenous people in its constitution with
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over half the votes counted, the no vote is leading by at least 57% of broadcasters project that at least four states of its six will vote against altering the 122 year old constitu ation . the 122 year old constitu ation. the prime minister, who championed the plans, admitted the result is not what we hoped for and says the country must seek a new way fonnard . well, you can get way fonnard. well, you can get all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com. now our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to . martin it's back to. martin >> and thank you, elizabeth . >> and thank you, elizabeth. welcome back to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney on your tv , online and on your digital tv, online and on your digital radio. now, while war rages in the middle east, incidents of anti—semitism here in the uk have skyrocketed by nearly 500. that's according to the community security trust , a community security trust, a charity helping to protect
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british jews. today is the sabbath , and jewish people will sabbath, and jewish people will be marking the holy day of the week. and joining me now is gb news east midlands reporter will hollis, who's in nottingham. nottingham, of course , home to nottingham, of course, home to one of the largest jewish student populations in the uk. well, how concerned are the residents of nottingham, the jewish community, about what seems to be a spiralling source of anti—semitic ism that's rocking through the uk ? rocking through the uk? >> yes. good afternoon. it's a thousand students that come to the university of nottingham that are from a jewish background. it's certainly one of the biggest student populations that follow the religion of judaism . but there religion of judaism. but there are these big populations, particularly in cities and metropolitan areas where there are more jews than you might find in other parts of the country, particularly around greater london, two thirds of the jewish population in britain are in greater london, 200,000 of them greater manchester,
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where as well, glasgow in scotland. and it's particularly around these areas where in the last week since those hamas attacks in israel that we have seen a spike in anti—semitic behaviour, anti—semitic incidents to look at the last penod incidents to look at the last period for last year, one week's time in 2022, there were 32 anti—semitic incidences . but now anti—semitic incidences. but now in the last week since that attack in israel, 2023, 193 incidents for the exact same period, the exact same year . now period, the exact same year. now thatis period, the exact same year. now that is a massive increase, 500. and those are statistics from the cst . that's the community the cst. that's the community security trust , a the cst. that's the community security trust, a charity the cst. that's the community security trust , a charity that security trust, a charity that supports jewish causes, particularly around protection. that's 14 assaults, six damage and desecration to jewish property, 22 direct threats and 140 incidents of abusive behaviour. that includes online
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abuse as well as verbal abuse. so that just makes up a selection of them. but we've got a statement as well from the community security trust that says that in many cases these hateful comments, threats to life and physical attacks are laced with the rhetoric and iconography of pro—palestinian and anti—israel politics, even compared to periods of previous conflicts involving israel. these statistics are unprecedentedly high now. we've been talking about where those sorts of incidents have happened. as well as the big population centres. there's also west yorkshire to hertfordshire and at least one in incident of anti—semitism that happened here in nottingham , particularly in nottingham, particularly relating to a pro—palestine slogan that was sprayed across the former home of a rabbi. so that's one that's been logged by the cst, the community security trust. i've been speaking to people from the jewish community
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who weren't willing to talk on camera , particularly because of camera, particularly because of fears for security and safety. but they say they are liaising with the police, particularly today on the sabbath, the day of rest to have additional patrols rest, to have additional patrols around synagogues and other jewish centres and they are also putting extra staff on extra security staff . it's worth security staff. it's worth remembering as well that the prime minister this week pledged an extra £3 million to the community security trust just because of this rise in anti—semitism. and the prime minister said that is a disgusting rise and the full force of the law is behind the jewish community right now. >> will hollis, thank you for that important update from my home city of nottingham . and it home city of nottingham. and it bnngs home city of nottingham. and it brings me a great sense of shame. but that will be happening in the place of my birth. but thank you for that update . okay. i'm joined in the update. okay. i'm joined in the studio final time. the studio now. one final time. the former terrorism former head of counter terrorism at of defence , at the ministry of defence, major chip chapman, major general chip chapman, who's out who's been with us through out the show. chip when you hear
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about things like 14 assaults, six deaths, creations of jewish property, this isn't tweets and mean words we saw in france yesterday the stabbing of a teacher . france is now on the teacher. france is now on the maximum terror alert. what's the state of security and the terror alerts, would you say, in the uk ? >> well, we're at level three, which is substantial, and the level above that is severe . that level above that is severe. that is an attack is highly likely. what will really be going on at the moment is that jtac, the joint terrorism analysis centre, will looking at all the will be looking at all the indicators to see if there is an enhanced terrorist threat there. now from counter terrorist command's perspective , their command's perspective, their their sort of strapline is act action counters terrorism and we've seen a lot more reports about extremist behaviour , about extremist behaviour, people phoning in to counter terrorist command. that is quite correct. that and people like gchq, the government communications headquartered will will inform jtacs decision . will will inform jtacs decision. now jtac, of course, is independent of government . it independent of government. it the last time we went to severe
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was because of events in europe. a couple of attacks which occurred in november so occurred in november 2021. so it'll be looking at what happens in the next few days to see if it's the fact that we will to it's the fact that we will go to severe from substantial. too early to tell at the moment, but they'll doing this distant they'll be doing this distant honzon they'll be doing this distant horizon if horizon scanning to see if that's likely occur . that's likely to occur. >> okay, chip chapman, thank you very joining us very much forjoining us throughout entire and very much forjoining us thro can)ut entire and very much forjoining us thro can)ut there tire and very much forjoining us thro can)ut there live and very much forjoining us thro can)ut there live picturesd you can see there live pictures from on screen right from gaza on the screen right now. huge explosions. giant now. more huge explosions. giant plumes of smoke as the ground offensive in the gaza strip continues . well, you're watching continues. well, you're watching or listening to gb news saturday with me, martin daubney. there's still lots more coming up on today's show, including as reports that british reports surfaced that british pnsons reports surfaced that british prisons are at breaking point . prisons are at breaking point. but i'll be asking, how can we solve our jail problems? all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back to gb news today with me, martin daubney on your telly online and on your digital radio. now convicted rapists and burglars will be temporarily spared from going to jail from next week after judges warned that the country's prisons are full. ministry of justice sources said that the decision had been taken by judges and were independent of government because prisons were at full
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capacity. well, joining me now is former inmate winston davis, who's successfully turned his life around . let's start with life around. let's start with the situation where we're at now. winston, 95,000 prisoners in the uk that's set to rise to 106,000 by 2027. and yet we find ourselves in a situation where the uk can house endless illegal immigrants, enforce our hotels, but we can't jail rapists. what on earth has gone wrong here? >> look, martin, i feel like rapists, murderers , someone that rapists, murderers, someone that is a threat to the public. they need to be locked up . right. so need to be locked up. right. so that's like number one. that's got to happen. the capacity for that. however, for me in my experience is i found that pnson experience is i found that prison is not working unless you personally have got the tools, the willingness and the desire to actually change it. so i was like 15 years ago, you know, with cannabis, and i said, no, i'm going to change my life around. i'm going to do something positive with it. and i've turned but if
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i've turned it around. but if you got that within i've turned it around. but if you to got that within i've turned it around. but if you to go nt that within i've turned it around. but if you to go outat within i've turned it around. but if you to go outat wiemploy yourself to go out and employ people and, know, get a job people and, you know, get a job and give back to the community, you could sit there and rot. you could boxes, for could tick boxes, exercises for the and prison the government and prison service stats they need to hit and need to hit to and targets need to hit to satisfy, the public. satisfy, you know, the public. but you sit there satisfy, you know, the public. but rot you sit there satisfy, you know, the public. but rot not you sit there satisfy, you know, the public. but rot not yoanythinge satisfy, you know, the public. but rot not yoanything and and rot and not do anything and continue re—offend and the continue to re—offend and the pubuc continue to re—offend and the public with the £6] public burden with the £6] billion of what it costs to keep people in prison each year. >> it's interesting because a lot of people watching this show might think, you know, people deserve to be chucked in the slammer. one of the slammer. but one of the interesting is interesting points of this is that are more four that now there are more four year terms than ever, 56% year plus terms than ever, 56% of prison terms, or for all more years. and yet we're not seeing a corresponding downturn in re—offending. so does that say that longer prison terms aren't actually doing anything? >> 100. i actually doing anything? >>100. i mean, actually doing anything? >> 100. i mean, you look at the >>100. i mean, you look at the stats, you've got from 2012, the average prison sentence was 14 months. right now, 2022, those averages sentences go up to 22 months. so that's a 50% increase in prison sentences . and we've
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in prison sentences. and we've got no correlating fall in crime like you're saying. we've also got stable reoffending rates around 75% of all people that are convicted end up going are convicted will end up going back prison at some point back into prison at some point or commit a crime at some point. so reoffending continue in so the reoffending continue in the crimes, not dropping. so there's an issue somewhere . for there's an issue somewhere. for me, it's about rehabilitation and giving people the opportunity to learn skills, to get therapy, to get counselling , get therapy, to get counselling, to unpick whatever's caused them the trauma, to commit crime in the trauma, to commit crime in the first place so they can come back and contribute to society . back and contribute to society. >> but a lot of people out there might be shouting their tvs, might be shouting at their tvs, well, build nightingale well, we can build nightingale hospitals during covid. we can refurb riff sites for illegal immigrants. why can't we just build more jails? >> the government are they're spending billions on building more super prisons as we speak right now. and they're starting to open. but reality of it to open. but the reality of it is can keep on locking is this you can keep on locking people up, keep on locking them up period of time. up for a longer period of time. but not but if you are not rehabilitating and actually working on rehabilitating, rehabilitating people, they're
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just going to come back outside and they're going to be your neighbour. going neighbour. they're going to be the person driving behind you. they're in shop. the person driving behind you. theythen in shop. the person driving behind you. theythen the in shop. the person driving behind you. theythen the same in shop. the person driving behind you. theythen the same side shop. the person driving behind you. theythen the same side cyclewp. the person driving behind you. theythen the same side cycle of and then the same side cycle of crime is just going to keep going. got be going. surely you've got to be addressing are addressing the issues which are causing themselves causing them to find themselves in the first place. in prison in the first place. >> you've turned >> for me, you've turned your life around. you know, you've got bright future got you've got a bright future ahead you. just saw your ahead of you. i just saw your boys coming in there. so would you prison worked you? boys coming in there. so would you prison 'ison worked you? boys coming in there. so would you prison worked rked you? boys coming in there. so would you prison worked ford you? boys coming in there. so would you prison worked for me you? boys coming in there. so would you prison worked for me because >> prison worked for me because i had that day one, i i had that mindset day one, i got what got there and i was like, what am doing here? i'm a graduate. am i doing here? i'm a graduate. you opportunities. i you know, i had opportunities. i had front of me had things in front of me and i made a wrong and made a wrong choices. and i said, right, what am i going to do to change this? but like i said i when said to you, if i didn't, when i first decided i want to get into heating i was in in heating and gas when i was in in jail, said, you're jail, they said, no, you're overqualified. this overqualified. you can't do this course. so i had to fight to get onto that course. 15 years onto that course. and 15 years later, over 100 later, i've employed over 100 people. several people. i've had several businesses, and people. i've had several busiichairs, and people. i've had several busiichair of and people. i've had several busiichair of a and people. i've had several busiichair of a charity, and people. i've had several busiichair of a charity, i'm and now chair of a charity, i'm giving back. but that was because i that within me to because i had that within me to do if you don't have do that. but if you don't have that you, you're that within you, if you're addicted to you've got addicted to drugs, you've got psychological whatever psychological issues, whatever
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it people us it might be that people find us in say, like i in prison for. and i say, like i said, end up rotting. so said, you'll end up rotting. so i think this mine, they need to get back get more people like me back into prison. with the into prison. talking with the pnson into prison. talking with the prison service to actually help them say, i've it. i'm them to say, i've done it. i'm successful years later, i've successful 15 years later, i've not prison. i've not been back to prison. i've turned around . like said, turned it around. like i said, i've got family. got i've got a family. i've got a business. you need to speak to people like me give you the people like me to give you the answers than going around answers rather than going around deciding what you want to do, dictating what dictating to the government what they need. and without consulting people when consulting people like me, when i'm going to you around. i'm going to show you around. top cheers. martin thank top man cheers. martin thank you. cheers. >> lovely. moving >> cheers. lovely. okay moving on have unveiled on now. labour have unveiled their education plans, including plans phonics maths plans for a phonics and maths scheme boost in scheme to boost numeracy in early years. bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary, told the party's conference in liverpool that its curriculum review would bring maths to life for the next generation, using practical examples drawn from household budgeting, currency exchange rates for tourists, sports league tables and even cookery recipes . well, joining cookery recipes. well, joining me now is former gcse chief examiner and author of the book
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lessons from lockdown , dr. tony lessons from lockdown, dr. tony breslin. hello to you, tony. i've always had a nightmare with maths. i can't add up a shopping list myself, but this would seem on the basis of it, common sense maths, it would help in the real world rather than maths for maths sake. >> yes, certainly . and i think >> yes, certainly. and i think sometimes, certainly the prime minister's proposals on this, which were the big people studying maths beyond 16, it sounded like maths and maths sake , it sounded like just sake, it sounded like just continue . continue. >> now this approach getting in early in primary schools at the same time that we're developing children's reading skills and really focusing on maths . it's really focusing on maths. it's a very it's a very strong idea. of course, the big issue is we have to train and develop staff and we have to attract maths teachers into the profession and we've got real problems in doing that. so any extension of maths is welcome. no body of any
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political persuasion is going to argue against better literacy and better numeracy . but we have and better numeracy. but we have to get the teachers in the room to get the teachers in the room to do it. we have to ensure that they have the confidence so actually, you know, we need to make sure that we're training in particular in primary schools where they to be fewer where they tend to be fewer mathematics staff . we mathematics on the staff. we need to make sure by upskilling teachers and giving them the confidence to deliver them. but yes, a step in the right direction. >> yeah, but tony, i'm talking about the numbers adding up labour has said they're going to pay labour has said they're going to pay for this by adding extra tax burdens to private schools. and don't think that just sends don't you think that just sends out message that the labour out the message that the labour party is a party that's against aspiration? i went to a comprehensive and i'm proud of it, but i don't have i don't have a resentment people who have a resentment of people who go school and all go to private school and all this will do is price out the aspiration of middle aspiration of working middle classes and more classes and allow more and more rich to go to private rich people to go to private school and it won't affect them. >> well, look, the past >> well, look, in the past labour been criticised for labour have been criticised for not the on their
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not doing the maths on their proposals , so they're at least proposals, so they're at least doing some maths here. and secondly , the issue is about secondly, the issue is about whether private schools get particular tax exemptions . now particular tax exemptions. now that's a, that's another debate, but it seems to me that if you have a choice between funding a better maths for all children and giving a tax break to some parents, then i think we've got to go for the thing that will benefit more children. but these are the matters of political debate. let's establish first and foremost is this a good educational idea ? and it is. so educational idea? and it is. so then let's have the debate about funding . one thing is for sure, funding. one thing is for sure, if we don't fund education, if we don't train and develop teachers , we actually know that teachers, we actually know that that will cost us all more in the long term. >> okay . dr. tony breslin, an >> okay. dr. tony breslin, an impassioned monologue in defence of mathematics, something which to be frank, scared me to death my entire career. but look,
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that's it from me today. but stay tuned because nana is up next. and in fact , she's just next. and in fact, she's just whisked into the studio . nana, whisked into the studio. nana, what's on your menu? >> i mean, we've got >> well, i mean, we've got a very interesting show . very interesting show. >> geller will be joining us >> uri geller will be joining us live tel aviv. he'll be live from tel aviv. he'll be giving us what's happening there live from tel aviv. he'll be givin ons what's happening there live from tel aviv. he'll be givin on thelat's happening there live from tel aviv. he'll be givin on the ground.|pening there live from tel aviv. he'll be givin on the ground.|penirdoneere from on the ground. he's done quite a lot of filming, so he's got lot to tell us. got a lot to tell us. >> also, guy called malcolm brenner. >> he's coming the studio >> he's coming into the studio live. from tel live. he has come back from tel aviv he's going to tell us aviv and he's going to tell us his story difficult conversations. >> we'll also be looking the >> we'll also be looking at the uk prison system, asking whether it's broken and then i think finally, a question i've finally, a question that i've always said, you know, who do you greatest threat you think is the greatest threat to stability. to stability, global stability. >> is the >> and on that list is the united states . so going to united states. so we're going to be about states , be talking about united states, china, russia, and course, iran. >> who do believe really >> and who do we believe really risks destabilising the world, which at the moment is a very precarious place, isn't it? >> what do you make of the protests that have happened in london today? there's one in glasgow know, the glasgow as well. you know, the pro—palestinian protests are there. they helping or are
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there. are they helping or are they rubbing it in a bit? >> look, we have freedom of speech right to speech so people have a right to peacefully protest. you know , peacefully protest. you know, i'm not happy with the fact that people are being killed on both sides. i don't like that. for me , that's bad. but i'm not comfortable with people supporting hamas. so they are supporting hamas. so if they are protesting in support of hamas, then problem that. then i have a problem with that. but they protesting but if they are protesting because you know, because they want to, you know, life and peace, then then , you life and peace, then then, you know, that's how we do things in this country. >> and who else do you got on your show today? >> well, we've got a very we've got of guests. got a plethora of guests. i'd like lois like to that we've got lois perry with jim dale perry coming in with jim dale for control. we're going for climate control. we're going to be looking at actually the impact it that they're impact of why is it that they're so net but so concerned about net zero, but yet more happy to yet they're more than happy to pump for munitions? and pump in money for munitions? and i mean, comes of those munitions? >> what do you what >> what do they you know, what carbon coming out of that you carbon is coming out of that you know, why are they not bothered about know, why are they not bothered abowhy happy fly to >> why are they happy to fly to cop27 or whatever it in their cop27 or whatever it is in their private they're private jets, but yet they're and that's and all that anyway, that's sounds tasty manual. sounds like a tasty manual. >> that's it me. don't >> that's it from me. but don't forget, because it's
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forget, stay tuned because it's nana right the break. forget, stay tuned because it's nanihas right the break. forget, stay tuned because it's nanihas been ht the break. forget, stay tuned because it's nanihas been gb the break. forget, stay tuned because it's nanihas been gb news1e break. forget, stay tuned because it's nanihas been gb news saturday this has been gb news saturday with me, martin. but first, here's your weather here's a look at your weather with jonathan. >> i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey with latest gb vautrey here with your latest gb news provided news weather forecast provided by it is big by the met office. it is big coat weather for of us this coat weather for many of us this weekend. in weekend. rather cold around in places and some showers to contend with well , contend with as well, particularly in the west and the north be wintry over the north will be wintry over the higher ground of scotland. most of though, this of the showers, though, this evening overnight ease evening and overnight will ease off areas . probably off for inland areas. probably persisting, though, for coastal areas push through areas might push through the cheshire well . underneath cheshire gap as well. underneath the clear skies we see inland, though, will though, temperatures will certainly dropping off. could certainly be dropping off. could be coldest autumn be the coldest night of autumn so below freezing so far, dropping below freezing in a lot rural areas. so in a lot of rural areas. so quite chilly start sunday quite a chilly start to sunday morning. it will be also morning. but it will be also a rather bright and sunny one for many of us. the showers easing off widely compared to today , off widely compared to today, persisting, though, across the north where it will north of scotland where it will be cloudy general. but be cloudy in general. but elsewhere, will be a good elsewhere, there will be a good number intervals number of sunny intervals throughout day. lighter number of sunny intervals througas ut day. lighter number of sunny intervals througas well. day. lighter number of sunny intervals througas well. so y. lighter number of sunny intervals througas well. so hopefully winds as well. so hopefully feeling a touch better compared to today. but still, temperatures doing no better
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than 10 to 13 c. so rather cold as well. as we head into monday, high pressure is looking like it is going to cling on. so keeping things relatively fine and settled for the vast majority of us. showers again, probably us. the showers again, probably persisting across some far northern at times, maybe northern areas at times, maybe pushing into southeast as pushing into the southeast as well. a little bit of mist and fog around first thing in the morning. clearing its morning. that clearing its way off, but be a bit a off, but could be a bit of a cloudier some cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloudier day. some wispy cirrus cloud around. the sunshine cloud around. so the sunshine touch compared to the touch hazier compared to the weekend. pressure looks weekend. the high pressure looks like it will cling on into the middle part of the week, though. temperatures rising a temperatures also rising up a touch by in a world of dull touch by by in a world of dull and predictable tv and predictable radio and tv shows . shows. >> oh, hi. >> oh, hi. >> on mark dolan tonight we've got big guests. we drill into the big stories of the day . the the big stories of the day. the show adds up to a brilliant listening and viewing experience . once mark dolan tonight is the most
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>> hello, good afternoon . it is >> hello, good afternoon. it is 3:00. this is gb views on tv, onune 3:00. this is gb views on tv, online and on digital radio nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's theirs. and of it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating discussing, at debating, discussing, and at times but no times we will disagree. but no one be cancelled. so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broad cast from columnist lizzie cundy. also a former labour adviser, matthew lazor . in cundy. also a former labour adviser, matthew lazor. in a cundy. also a former labour adviser, matthew lazor . in a few adviser, matthew lazor. in a few moments time , i'll be crossing
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moments time, i'll be crossing live to charlie peters in tel aviv to get the latest on israel and the hamas conflict . aviv to get the latest on israel and the hamas conflict. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with elizabeth . news headlines with elizabeth. >> good afternoon . it's a few >> good afternoon. it's a few minutes past three. i'm elizabeth callahan in the newsroom . the window israel gave newsroom. the window israel gave palestine opens to flee from the north of gaza along two main routes without being harmed has now closed . hamas says nine now closed. hamas says nine captives, including four foreigners, have been killed following israeli airstrikes in the region overnight night. the united states has negotiated an agreement with israel, qatar and egypt to allow foreigners to exit gaza through the rafah border crossing today. meanwhile, israeli defence forces are carrying out localised raids and ground troops have entered the territory. this is the first ground incursion by israel since last weekend's attacks by hamas. israel's air force says it's
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