beenin been in london. he's travelled from the middle east to london to meet the prime minister. rishi sunak in the last half an houn rishi sunak in the last half an hour. this comes after a further round of talks, crisis talks by world leaders with others to try to inject diplomacy into the conflict between israel and hamas. this was a short time ago.the hamas. this was a short time ago. the visit was short and sweet. we saw about five minutes ago king abdullah leave number

10 after short talks with the prime minister and the us secretary of state, antony blinken has been visiting riyadh, where he spoke to crown prince mohammed bin salman of saudi arabia. and as he left egypt today , he outlined the egypt today, he outlined the us's key four objectives. first of all, the us sticking to talks with leaders of the region, he repeated. the us position that it stands by israel as expressing the hope as well as expressing the hope as well as expressing the hope as well as expressing the hope, rather, that the conflict wouldn't spill into any other parts of the region. he also said the us is working to effect the release of israeli hostages taken by hamas , israeli hostages taken by hamas, as well as ensuring the humanitarian crisis in gaza didn't worsen . it's after the didn't worsen. it's after the european union's national leaders backed israel's right to defend itself in line with humanitarian and international law. meanwhile israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu and the us president joe biden, have agreed to renew water supplies to parts of southern gaza .

to parts of southern gaza. separately, the united nations has warned that hospitals filled with wounded victims will run out of fuel and supplies in the next two days. and all this as mr netanyahu convened his emergency council to prepare for what he described as demolishing hamas. as israel prepared for a ground offensive into gaza. a spokesperson for the idf telling gb news it is, though, continuing to let people in northern gaza move from from their homes to safety as they prepare for that ground assault . prepare for that ground assault. right now, here at for home, government, flights carrying britons have left israel. today, two more are expected later. the foreign office is telling british people in gaza to be ready in case the rafah border crossing with egypt is opened. we have had some indications that that might happen after talks with the us secretary of state, antony blinken, but we haven't quite got that confirmed just yet. the uk foreign office on standby for that confirmation as well . it is currently the

as well. it is currently the only route out of the territory. well the foreign secretary, james cleverly told gb news the uk government is doing everything it can to get british people trapped in gaza safe passage out. meanwhile here at home, hundreds of people have gathered at a vigil in central to london commemorate israeli victims of the hamas terror attack. many were draped in israeli flags and held posters saying bring them home with flyers handed out featuring the names and faces of those taken hostage by hamas. a strong police presence patrolled the event that took place in central london in westminster. in fact . london in westminster. in fact. and regarding events yesterday, the metropolitan police said it is urgently reviewing content posted online following protests yesterday. the force releasing a picture of two women. they're looking to identify who displayed contentious images of paragliders. those images saying appearing to glorify hamas paragliders who attacked israel

last weekend . the demonstration last weekend. the demonstration was mainly peaceful yesterday, went without issue . 15 people went without issue. 15 people were arrested as pockets of disorder broke out. later on in the evening . now news away from the evening. now news away from the evening. now news away from the israel—hamas conflict . the israel— hamas conflict. london, the israel—hamas conflict. london, luton airport has said today it's unlikely that any vehicles will be salvageable following a car park fire which caused it to eventually collapse . acas bedfordshire fire and rescue service responded to the blaze on level three of the airport's term car park on tuesday. an andrew hopkinson chief fire officer for bedfordshire fire and rescue, said up to 1500 vehicles were parked inside the car park at the time of the fire. you're with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel .

britain's news channel. >> good morning, i'm christopher hope and welcome to the camilla tominey show i'm planting while camilla is away. it's been a huge and devastating week in the middle east and we'll be reflecting that in the show today . i'll reflecting that in the show today. i'll be reflecting that in the show today . i'll be joined by both today. i'll be joined by both the secretary james the foreign secretary james cleverly the shadow foreign cleverly and the shadow foreign secretary, labour's david lammy, to discuss what they think the uk's response should to be the war. now as israel's army prepares for a ground invasion of gaza, i'll be speaking to a representative of the israeli defence force left tenant colonel peter lerner , israeli's colonel peter lerner, israeli's ambassador to the uk , tzipi ambassador to the uk, tzipi hotovely, will also be here. joining me in the gb news studio . what do you do? james? cleverly when it gets very difficult out there? israel how will you how will you cope with that when all sadly the situation is already be very difficult. >> we have seen an unprecedented

terrorist attack against israel . terrorist attack against israel. we have seen israel , i think, we have seen israel, i think, shaken to its core by a death of people , unprecedented even in people, unprecedented even in the areas of conflict since the formation of the modern state of israel. so of course we do support israel's desire to for self defence. we do support their actions to re—establish peace in southern israel and to remove the threat from hamas terrorists in all the conversations that we have had with israel, of course we do raise our commitment to international law and our desire to minimise civilian casualties. they they are very conscious of that and they have given commitments that they will do whatever they can to minimise civilian casualties, although of course because of the geographical and political situation in gaza with palestinians being put in intentionally in harm's way by hamas, that is incredibly

difficult . difficult. >> james, cleverly, do you agree with the former mi6 chief, sir alex younger, warning that an invasion will play into the hands of hamas ? hands of hamas? >> well, there is, of course , is >> well, there is, of course, is a real risk that hamas is successful in turning this into a wider regional kind of arab—israeli or or muslim versus the rest of the world conflict . the rest of the world conflict. israel are very conscious of that and are listening very carefully when we discuss what we can do to minimise the risk of that happening. i've been speaking with the leadership of countries in the region , countries in the region, discussing how we can minimise the risk of that happening, but israel are conscious of that. we are conscious of that and the international community is working to minimise the risk of that happening . that happening. >> is your worried, though, james cleverly, that this could be an open ended conflict with no, no obvious exit because once israel in it's very hard to israel go in it's very hard to see how the how the conflict

will end . well now, of course, will end. well now, of course, this terrible situation has run on for many years already . on for many years already. >> israel left gaza in 2005. gaza has been run by hamas since 2006, and israel have come under consistent attack from hamas emanating from gaza since that time. so of course we are working , trying to ensure that working, trying to ensure that israel have a plan, have an exit strategy and we will, of course, continue to do whatever we can to minimise is the risk that this becomes an enduring , an this becomes an enduring, an extended painful regional conflict . conflict. >> is there a risk, though, of war crimes by israeli troops . war crimes by israeli troops. >> sorry i missed that. i missed that question. >> sorry. james. cleverly is there a risk, though, that of war crimes that the humanitarian

rights of those in gaza could be violated by israeli troops? and what would you say to that? >> so i have raised the importance of international law and the and the and the minimisation of civilian casualties directly with the israeli government. president herzog, the president of israel, has reaffirmed israel's commitment to international law and their desire to minimise civilian casualties. as i said, one of the challenges is that hamas habitually puts palestinians in harm's way as part of their wider efforts . part of their wider efforts. they are a terrorist organisation and they use terrorist tactic s and those tactics are not exclusively directed towards israelis. they are also . so there are millions are also. so there are millions of palestinians living in gaza under the yoke of a terrorist organisation and hamas actions are putting those palestinian lives at risk . lives at risk. >> well, on that point, james

cleverly your tory colleague, christopher blunt, warned that the uk will be complicit in war crimes if we support israel as israel's attempt to defend itself. what would you say to crispin blunt and people on your own backbenches as well? >> i have spoken to crispin about this issue. he is a long standing opponent of israel's actions. i fundamentally disagree . i fundamentally disagree. i fundamentally disagree. i fundamentally disagree with his assessment of this situation in terms of the uk and how many britons might be out there in israel and gaza. >> do you how many brits are actually being held hostage by hamas? are there any at all? >> so we don't know precise numbers as the nature here of israel as a state, particularly as a haven forjewish as a haven for jewish communities around the world, means there are very large number of dual nationals with british dual nationals, but who

regard themselves as israeli regard themselves as israeli regard israel as their permanent home and even be serving the israeli defence forces. so the precise numbers excuse me , precise numbers excuse me, excuse me. so the precise numbers of british people , numbers of british people, british nationals that we need to support is unclear. we know that in gaza there are numbers in the low hundreds of people who have registered with the british government seeking our support. and we will, of course, support. and we will, of course, support them in whatever way we can. and we will continue to support british nationals who are in israel who are seeking to return back to the uk. >> you've got flights laid on, haven't you? for those those in israel, how are you dealing with with brits in gaza? are you helping them to find a way out maybe to the south? >> so we have been liaising very, very closely with the israeli government, with the egyptian government, and we know that there have been talks to

try and reopen the rafah crossing. now, that is the border crossing between southern gaza and egypt at the moment. thatis gaza and egypt at the moment. that is the only credible exit route for the people from gaza. we will continue to work to try and get that crossing reopened, although at the moment it is not open and that is , of course, open and that is, of course, making humanitarian and consular support into gaza incredibly difficult. >> the uk has deployed military assets to the eastern mediterranean. james cleverly why ? why is that? will the raf why? why is that? will the raf be doing any airlifts, for example, or why ? why are we why example, or why? why are we why are we out there with our military hardware ? military hardware? >> well, we are keeping our opfions >> well, we are keeping our options open with regard to how we support british nationals in the in the region . so this is the in the region. so this is a this is to give us as many opfionsin this is to give us as many options in terms of consular support as possible. we're also trying to deter this becoming a wider regional conflict. so we are saying for any organisation ,

are saying for any organisation, lions, militia groups or or others in the region that are seeking to turn this into a regional conflict. so we are going to do everything we can both diplomatically to prevent this spilling out into becoming a regional conflict . a regional conflict. >> so is it a possibility then that the british army or the navy may get involved in some kind of some kind of confrontation out there ? confrontation out there? >> so our posture there is predominantly to support british nationals and any work that we that we need to do for consular support, we are not envisaging engaging in military action and justjust engaging in military action and just just to ask you about the marching in london yesterday, where you're standing. >> tens of thousands of demonstrators in london were you concerned by that? and of course, they're marching in support of the palestinian people. but there were some other people there with other other people there with with badges , some pictures of with badges, some pictures of paragliders on their backs, that kind thing that makes you kind of thing that makes you worried. i mean, hamas is a proscribed terrorist group in

this . this country. >> so one of the points that i would make is that we have a long standing tradition , ocean long standing tradition, ocean of protest and i completely respect people's right to protest. i would also , however, protest. i would also, however, make the point that that supporting the cause of the palestinian people and supporting hamas and their terrorist atrocities are not the same thing. and i think that some people have rather naively conflated the two. hamas has been responsible for significant loss of palestinian life as well as israeli life. hamas are no friend to the palestinian people. james cleverly , they people. james cleverly, they have blocked the oslo process . have blocked the oslo process. they have collapsed. >> james cleverly thank you. >> james cleverly thank you. >> talk of a two state solution. they are no friend of the palestinian. >> james. there's lots more to come. in just a moment, we'll hear from interview hear from my interview from early the shadow early today with the shadow foreign lammy. foreign secretary, david lammy. we'll, course, keep we'll, of course, keep you updated on all latest updated on all the latest developments. go anywhere.

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earlier, i spoke to the shadow foreign secretary, david labour mp david lammy. >> i started by asking him whether they were supports the invasion of gaza . invasion of gaza. >> look, we said right from the beginning that we support israel's right to defend itself . israel's right to defend itself. if they have had the most awful, horrendous mass terrorist attack there are still 130 hostile images currently in gaza rape, murder , children, women, they murder, children, women, they have a right to go into gaza to get those hostages is to degrade the military and rockets and equipment that's been used against them. and of course , to against them. and of course, to take out hamas , a proscribed take out hamas, a proscribed terrorist, organise nation . by terrorist, organise nation. by >> but do you worry, though, that israel might risk breaking international law by doing this? because if the civilian casualties pile up, then what it

keir starmer has said all along that any operation must be, according to international legal law and so it's hugely important that civilian casualties are minimised , that humanity , an aid minimised, that humanity, an aid and access is there that people have access to food, to water, to medicine , and that there are to medicine, and that there are corridors, safe corridors , so corridors, safe corridors, so that people can pass safely through the country with out being bombed? >> we cannot, as democracies . >> we cannot, as democracies. and israel is a democracy . we and israel is a democracy. we step back from the importance of international law at this moment . as hard as it is. >> how long do you think any war in gaza might last for ? david in gaza might last for? david lammy well , look, in gaza might last for? david

lammy well, look, i'm . not an lammy well, look, i'm. not an army general. >> i haven't got the intelligence available to me. but but all of us, of course , but but all of us, of course, are worried, particularly about the children , the women, the the children, the women, the civilians who could be caught up in conflict and about the urban warfare that we might be about to witness this. so i prayed , to witness this. so i prayed, hope that it doesn't go for on longer than is necessary . longer than is necessary. >> should the uk government be doing more to get british citizens out of gaza ? well look, citizens out of gaza? well look, i called earlier in the week to ensure that british citizens were able to get out of both israel and gaza . israel and gaza. >> i, i spoke to the egyptians yesterday day, and i know that they are in discussions about they are in discussions about the rafah crossing and many

brits are making their way to that crossing so they can exit the country . and i'm pleased , of the country. and i'm pleased, of course, that there are planes now leaving israel , all with uk now leaving israel, all with uk citizens . citizens. >> do you want to see more uk humanitarian aid going to gaza ? humanitarian aid going to gaza? well look, the situation in gaza was already . amongst the very was already. amongst the very worst in the country . worst in the country. >> this is the third most populated area, densely populated area, densely populated area, densely populated area on the planet . populated area on the planet. half of the population are under the age of 41. i have noted that the age of 41. i have noted that the european union has tripled its aid to gaza overnight. right. and we have called on the government to look again at the support we give to the citizens of gaza at this time. i'm is

there a number on that? >> david lammy , that you want to >> david lammy, that you want to see it to go up to in terms of aid ? aid? >> well, look , you will recall >> well, look, you will recall that this government cut aid substantially , not just to gaza, substantially, not just to gaza, but to places like afghanistan , but to places like afghanistan, sudan. but to places like afghanistan, sudan . it will be for the sudan. it will be for the government to set that figure within its means. of course . within its means. of course. yes. but i think along with the international community, this is a time , um, to be in support of a time, um, to be in support of civilians , citizens and of civilians, citizens and of course, humanity workers, many of whom are british, going about their work at this time. >> what do you think? james cleverly your counterpart, should be doing at the moment? should he be urging restraint from israel . from israel. >> well, look, i do think that over the last 24 hours, we've seen the european union. we've

seen the european union. we've seen antony blinken , we've seen seen antony blinken, we've seen lloyd austin , the defence lloyd austin, the defence secretary in the us , emmanuel secretary in the us, emmanuel macron, all understanding and being absolute clear that we support israel's right to defend itself and we recognise the hard choices that are in front of the israeli unity government, national government at this moment notwithstanding that the international community is saying that this has got to be within international law. and of course we have to follow the rules of war even in war there are rules and they are important rules that came out of the horrors of the second . world war. >> do you worry that the violence in israel and gaza will take away the focus from the war in ukraine? david lammy. take away the focus from the war in ukraine? david lammy . well, in ukraine? david lammy. well,

look , we have a war in europe look, we have a war in europe thatis look, we have a war in europe that is ongoing . that is ongoing. >> that is result of the imperial ambitions of putin and now we have war now in the middle east. the bandwidth of the international community is strained at this point in time. war always takes place where diplomacy has failed . but we diplomacy has failed. but we must support israel in its attempt to deal with the proscribed terrorist organisation, hamas . organisation, hamas. >> yeah , david, i mean, you have >> yeah, david, i mean, you have seen the pictures of the march in london yesterday . in london yesterday. >> tens of thousands of people marched down whitehall past the bbc. what did you make of that? there were very few arrests, weren't there? even though hamas is a proscribed and terrorist

group in the uk and they were supporting the palestinians yesterday . what do you take on yesterday. what do you take on on that march ? on that march? >> look, we live in a free society where for a democracy, where people are able to protest and to make their voices heard. and i recognise the huge concerns that the palestinian people have of their dignity, their human rights, and that we get to that two state solution so that israel can be a secure to and safe place . and the to and safe place. and the palestinians have their own sovereign state where they can live in dignity as well . the live in dignity as well. the police must make these very difficult calls , though, where difficult calls, though, where people contravene the law and stray into glorifying hate . and stray into glorifying hate. and i suspect that they got that balance rightjust i suspect that they got that balance right just about right yesterday . yesterday. >> yeah .

>> yeah. >> yeah. >> and just finally, david lammy, what's your position on the rise in anti—semitic attacks in the uk? we've got reports in the weekend papers about some jewish people hiding the star of david and look, i think it's horrendous and i represent kent, the stamford hill area of london, which is one of the historic homes of our jewish communities over more than a century . century. >> the rise in anti semitism is abysmal. we must stand up to this hate the idea that there are schoolchildren in not attending school through fear not wearing uniform, through fear , people taking off the star fear, people taking off the star of . david fear, people taking off the star of. david hiding, pretending that they are not of jewish faith is entirely unacceptable . faith is entirely unacceptable. and i stand in solidarity with jewish communities at this time who must have the full

protection of the law . protection of the law. >> and just finally, you want these schools to open this week. do you ? well look, the advice of do you? well look, the advice of the cst and the metropolitan police is that schools can open , police is that schools can open, that they are there to support jewish communities . jewish communities. >> and i want to see all young people right across the country back in school , the shadow back in school, the shadow foreign secretary, david labour mp david lammy. >> and there's more to come. just a moment. i'll be speaking to a spokesman for the israeli defence forces. we're back

radio. >> welcome back to the camilla tominey show with me, christopher hope. now as we speak, the israeli armed forces are massing at border with are massing at the border with gaza analysts suggesting gaza with analysts suggesting that we'd like to see full that we'd like to see a full scale ground invasion. joining

me me now discuss me now joining me now to discuss that colonel peter that is lieutenant colonel peter lerner spokesperson the lerner, a spokesperson for the israeli defence forces. peter lerner . good to see you. thank lerner. good to see you. thank you for joining lerner. good to see you. thank you forjoining us lerner. good to see you. thank you for joining us today on the camilla tominey show what are israel's war aims ? israel's war aims? >> christopher? thank you. in the aftermath of last week's massacre of israeli families and the abduction of over 120 people, all the government has instructed the idf to destroy hamas's capability, to destroy and target its leaders and make sure that they can never, ever again target and butcher our babies in their beds. >> so israel will withdraw when that war aim is completed. if it's completed, we are determined to destroy hamas's capability and we will absolutely deliver the goods. >> but are you fearful, though, that israel could could be engagedin that israel could could be engaged in a propaganda war and a prolonged battle here with with with gaza, with with with

hamas in gaza ? hamas in gaza? >> we're already seeing hamas propaganda efforts. that's i think, you know, in this region, fake news was probably invented . fake news was probably invented. we are trying to combat that. and hamas is obviously going to try and i would say, manipulate people's perceptions of what's going on. yesterday, there was an extensive report of a truck and a convoy that was struck, supposedly by the israeli air force. i can confirm at this time no israeli airstrike took place and from our investigation, it appears that hamas created the incident out completely from a to z . so they completely from a to 2. so they are in an effort. and i'd also say we've seen time and time again that has hamas has no problem, no whims in sacrificing its own people. you know, when they put rockets in the basements of their homes in gaza or drones on the rooftop, drones with explosives on the rooftops

of houses just goes to show that they are willing to sacrifice anybody living in those houses. so i would say this is the current situation. we are combating that and most definitely unprepared that hamas will ever be able to breach our border and come into our communities. and i would say even more than that, we're not prepared that they will govern the gaza strip as a staging ground for terrorism against our people. >> but , peter, people. >> but, peter, there's people. >> but , peter, there's a people. >> but, peter, there's a message out today from the israeli defence forces saying that you will allow people in gaza to move south. >> 10 am. to 1 pm, use that window to move south. what happens after 1 window to move south. what happens after1 p.m? happens after 1 pm? >> happens after1 p.m? >> so we have over the last this is day three of the evacuation of people from the north of gaza strip to the south, precisely because the people of gaza are not our enemy, but hamas is our enemy. so we're differentiating. this is between terrorists and non—combatants . that is non—combatants. that is precisely what we're doing . now, precisely what we're doing. now, what we've seen when we make

these announcement, it's we've seen active operation on behalf of both physically of hamas, both physically blocking people from evacuating . blocking people from evacuating. so they want more images of death and destruction as far as they're concerned. but and also sending messages out, telling people to ignore the idea of construction. we're actually happy to see that people obviously , we know that hamas obviously, we know that hamas are not doing them any favours and therefore , they're actually and therefore, they're actually heading south. so it's an heading down south. so it's an ongoing this is day three, and we can expect that to continue. now, ground operation, if now, our ground operation, if and when it does happen, will be in accordance to the laws of armed conflict. we will do the best of our operational capability to differentiate between non—combatants and the terrorist organisation hamas and all of its proxies within the gaza strip. because there are there's the palestinian islamic jihad as well, that also have forces and all of these organisations are closely tied with with iran. so we need to be prepared for the long haul here. it's not going to be a short operation and i would say from

our perspective, the government's directive, we are not limited by time, but where will they go? >> the southern border is full. it's 2.1 million people living in gaza. where can they go? they're all to going squeeze into the southern part of gaza. i mean, that's that's hardly in line with humanitarian an ideas and how others should be treated i >> no, on the contrary . you >> no, on the contrary. you know, the worst case scenario is actually that they would stay in where we plan to conduct our operations. so they should evacuate to the south where there is places where people can get hold of and take cover for the time being. and indeed, when we finish and complete our operations , we will announce operations, we will announce that able to come that they'll be able to come back homes. know, back to their homes. you know, the situation ground is the situation on the ground is one we are changing the one where we are changing the paradigm. when decided to paradigm. when hamas decided to butcher our babies, they broke the rules of the game. there was a very stable situation of an i would say a non—written understanding that hamas manages the gaza strip. it doesn't conduct a terrorist against

israel and for the last two years, they've been very wary about it. and when they decided to break the rules of the game in such a brutal way , we decided in such a brutal way, we decided to change the game. so hamas will be removed from gaza . we will be removed from gaza. we are determined that they will neven are determined that they will never, ever be able to attack us and our people in their home ever again . ever again. >> how many civilians in gaza might die in the coming weeks ? might die in the coming weeks? >> i hope you know, i hope there is no need for civilian death . is no need for civilian death. but unfortunately, 1300 israelis butchered at the hands of hamas leave us no choice but to manoeuvre and operate indeed, the civilian arena for any profession , military and the idf profession, military and the idf is a professional arena is a professional military in in this urban arena is extremely challenging . and that is why challenging. and that is why we're doing our best in order to differentiate and separate and indeed instruct people, you know, the types of things that

we're doing is dropping, dropping leaflets from the sky, sending text messages, sending out text messages, phoning people up order that phoning people up in order that they evacuate places we they evacuate places where we intend to strike. when we understand that are understand that they are non—combatant people in the area . but yes, hamas needs to pay . . but yes, hamas needs to pay. they need to be removed. and i would say in so much so is that they need to be banished from they need to be banished from the realm of existence. >> well, peter leonard, when will this happen? when is it imminently like today? tomorrow >> so we are on standby. we are with accumulated a huge amount of reservists over the last few days. we've recruited some 300,000 reserve forces accompanied to the regular forces that the idf has on call at all times . a lot of those of at all times. a lot of those of that 300,000 are, of course, focussed on preparations for potential ground operation. if the government instructs us to mobilise, we will be prepared. you know , our preparations are you know, our preparations are ongoing and it's important that we know how to do this. i would

also add, though, that some of those reservists that i pointed out that 300,000 are also currently on the border and the frontier with lebanon because hezbollah is also testing us as we speak. and they are i would highly recommend that they actually watch how we are diminishing, adding hamas's capability to governance in gaza and hunting down their terrorists, their leaders and terrorists, their leaders and terrorists, and striking their their staging grounds . and i their staging grounds. and i would highly recommend that hezbollah should not cross that line. >> how likely is it that there might be an incursion in the north from hezbollah? >> so i'm aware of several cross border attacks . even this border attacks. even this morning. we've had anti—tank guided missiles fired at our forces. there are even reports of civilians, workers that are in construction that were injured in this attack. so there's a probability, we hope it won't happen. but as we say in the military, hope is not a method. we need to be prepared

for any eventuality. >> just finally, peter lerner, do you worry, though, that that you up radicalising a you might end up radicalising a whole of people whole new generation of people in hamas and fight in gaza to join hamas and fight against israel by doing this ? against israel by doing this? >> i worry for the children of israel. i worry for the families that live under that threat of being abducted . and i worry for being abducted. and i worry for the for the young men and women that went to have a party in the desert and never found their way home. those are the people i am charged to worry for. i would expect the leaders of the palestinians, hamas, that they take care of their people, that they use their power in. any palestinian government should use their power to govern , to use their power to govern, to create an environment that can flourish and can grow and not build tunnels for terror , build tunnels for terror, rockets . for hate and special rockets. for hate and special forces such as the air force and drones for destruction and death. and we won't permit that to be the reality for our civilians. and each side has

their own responsibility towards their own responsibility towards their civilians. i would say know we say with a very, very heavy heart on the saturday of 7th of october for the idf, let down the people of southern israel, this can never, ever happen again. >> well , lieutenant colonel >> well, lieutenant colonel peter lerner, thank you for joining .

us >> the joined me in studio now, israel's ambassador to the uk, tzipi hotovely . tzipi, thank you tzipi hotovely. tzipi, thank you for joining us today. tzipi hotovely. tzipi, thank you for joining us today . you're forjoining us today. you're a former minister, your mp, now ambassador, you also a mother. israel's about to go to war. many israeli mothers won't see their children again. how do you feel this morning? >> well, i'm actually very feeling my mother feelings. >> i think every parent, every israeli parent will never look at his children again after we've seen those parents protecting their children in those shelters when their

heanng those shelters when their hearing those guns of hamas terrorists and unfortunately, some of those families were destroyed. unfortunately some of those children saw their parents being executed in front of their eyes and some some of those children are still in gaza. so i can't be not being emotional . can't be not being emotional. this is definitely something that will change israel forever . that will change israel forever. some people compare it to 9/11. i would say in proportion when you when you take the numbers, it's bigger because israel is such a small population nation and 1300 israelis that found their death in a massacre , their death in a massacre, october 7th massacre will be always remembered. but my message to you as as british audience watching that those people marching in london, supporting those horrors of hamas are supporting pure evil. you cannot support pure evil. this is such a simple, more all

decision to make. do you support mothers and fathers protecting their children, their innocent babies? or do you support people that kill innocent babies, beheaded them and rape innocent young women? >> they were marching for this is what we're sending here. >> this is this is the two routes to go . and if you're a routes to go. and if you're a civilised man and if you support life and you support human rights, you should support israel at this time. >> and by and large , the crowds >> and by and large, the crowds yesterday there were big numbers. they marching numbers. they were marching for palestinians not in support of hamas. there's a difference there, isn't there? >> say , first of all, >> so i would say, first of all, the timing, the timing, the fact that you're coming after this massacre, wave massacre, you should wave israeli flags in streets of israeli flags in the streets of london. this is the first thing. but thing, if you but the second thing, if you support palestinians, go and support the palestinians, go and protest hamas because as protest against hamas because as james cleverly, your foreign secretary said today, any civilian that got killed, either israeli or palestinian, it's hamas fault. hamas is the one

who's preventing at the moment from older people that we are trying to keep them safe. they're preventing them to go to a safe shelter when israel is providing a safe route to the palestinian people to go down south. so i can tell you, this is something that is cannot be justified . the fact they are justified. the fact they are preventing their own people to be safe, the fact they want their people to be killed in order show to the world order to show to the world israel is killing civilians while targeting only while we are targeting only military targets. >> do you want to see a march in the uk for israel? >> absolutely. i mean, we've seen when, you know, seen last week when, you know, all your streets were coloured blue and white. whitehall still has always rally flags on your buildings . and this is the time buildings. and this is the time where we've seen two, 2000 people marching for israel and standing for israel. but i want to see the streets not everywhere. >> the arch above wembley stadium was not lit up in the israeli colours. how did that make you feel? >> i think, again, the moral decision is so simple. i mean, i

think britain had its great moment fighting the regime. think britain had its great moment fighting the regime . the moment fighting the regime. the atrocities we've seen on saturday are very much similar to isis tactics , but also to isis tactics, but also reminded many jews that atrocities jews experienced dunng atrocities jews experienced during the holocaust. so those kind of things have a very, very simple answer. if you want to support good, you want to support good, you want to support pure evil. do you want to support those horrible, barbaric murderers? you shouldn't . i barbaric murderers? you shouldn't. i think i think everyone should feel identifying with israel and also the west is under barbaric attack . we've under barbaric attack. we've beenin under barbaric attack. we've been in the past. we saw the fight of the west with isis . and fight of the west with isis. and when people are asking me how much it takes to win this war, i will say when americans fought in mosul , in will say when americans fought in mosul, in iraq, there will say when americans fought in mosul , in iraq, there were in mosul, in iraq, there were over 100,000 civilians that got caughtin over 100,000 civilians that got caught in a crossfire and got killed . and i'm not justifying killed. and i'm notjustifying that, but i'm saying this is part of the free world fighting against those barbaric terrorism. and we need to make sure that, first of all, we're trying to make innocent palestinians safe and the second

thing is israel is fighting now the most cruel and barbaric terror organisation. and this is the time for people to call hamas . don't prevent from your hamas. don't prevent from your people to go and find a shelter because the israelis allow and you are the one who getting them killed . killed. >> what's your advice to jews in britain today? should they should they be hiding symbols of their star of david, their faith? the star of david, for well, is the for example? well, this is the job the police to instruct job of the police to instruct jews in london. >> to all my jewish >> but i call to all my jewish brothers and sisters that stand now in strong solidarity to israel. we will win this war. we will win this war. and i know the uk government is protecting you . i know that all the you. i know that all the organisations , the cst in this organisations, the cst in this community is strong and i know that we will together celebrate winning this war over this pure cruelty. >> you've got schools that can't open. >> i must say i'm planning to. will they open this week? i'm planning to see all jewish schools open and i know that there will there is enough protection for the jewish schools. so i'm sure all jewish

kids will get back to their normal. >> have you personally experienced anti—semitism in this country ? this country? >> let me tell you something. this is not the time to discuss the broad anti—semitism. this is the broad anti—semitism. this is the time to remember what israel has been through . in the last has been through. in the last week. we are still burying our debts. we are still mourning for the fact 1300 people, most of them young, most of them young families, most them babies families, most of them babies and children. those and children. those those footages of young children hugging each other burned to death by hamas, those horrible videos of the massacre and the torture that those people went through. those are the things we are showing to the world. the real face of hamas. what is the enemy we are facing? it's monsters. those are monsters . monsters. those are monsters. and monsters should be treated in a way that hamas will never have the control on the gaza strip again. after israel finishes the war. you're different, too. >> i mean, do you worry , though, >> i mean, do you worry, though, that i mean, it is shocking what

happened last last weekend in israel? but troops israel? of course. but if troops go in coming days and go into gaza in coming days and similar , the loss of life similar, the loss of life happens in gaza. you may lose sympathy . that's a risk for you. sympathy. that's a risk for you. >> i think that at the moment the sympathy is with israel, the uk government supports israel and i want to say how much i appreciate this support because prime minister sunak said today and last week he said, we will support you always. we give you a long run, support , but in a long run, support, but in order for you to make sure the job is finished and we cannot do just half the job, you need to listen to this. the main thing now that stands in the head of the prime minister and all the people on the ground, including my brothers, are in the frontline. the main thing at the moment is the fact that our communities must be protected, that children will never be that our children will never be in a threat, that terrorists will walk into their bedroom and will walk into their bedroom and will kill them when they're asleep and when they're hiding. we cannot afford this type of

horror in our streets and we need to make sure that this threat will permanently be removed and can violence do that? >> but there must be a political solution to this somehow, mustn't there? >> well, there is political solution when the other side is motivated by some type of vision , hamas vision. and you need to read hamas charter in order to understand that is no jew will live in the land of israel, that the whole place will be like islamic state . this the whole place will be like islamic state. this is the whole place will be like islamic state . this is the islamic state. this is the vision of hamas. so they want to do cleansing and you do ethnic cleansing and you could you could see their intentions if they could, they would butchered every would have butchered every single in every single city. single jew in every single city. so this is their intentions. and this is the ideology we're facing. this is isis of facing. this is isis type of ideology . they're not interested ideology. they're not interested in any political solution . and in any political solution. and this why we need fight . this is why we need to fight. >> we started out you said you're a mother. what's your message mothers gaza message to mothers in gaza facing what could be a very, very few days? facing what could be a very, verji'm few days? facing what could be a very, verji'm callingew days? facing what could be a very, verji'm calling to days? facing what could be a very, verji'm calling to the;? facing what could be a very, verji'm calling to the mothers of >> i'm calling to the mothers of gaza protest against hamas. go take your children, because israel is calling you to be safe

and stand against this horrific terror organisation that is celebrate hating the fact that he's killing babies . if your he's killing babies. if your mothers that care , you cannot mothers that care, you cannot celebrate killing innocent babies in terms of the uk, there's a big debate here about what the bbc, the national broadcaster, should call hamas. >> they're not called terrorists, according to the ofcom rules. did you agree with that? >> this is disgrace. the fact that they don't call it terrorist. what can be more clear, terrorism than what hamas did on saturday? this is a recognised terror organisation here in the uk in the us, and this should be the word to use . this should be the word to use. and i call everyone that is watching the to bbc demand that from the bbc to call it by its name because it's terrorism. >> the bbc would say that was taking sides . and they can't. taking sides. and they can't. they can't, they can't do that because they haven't done it in the past with the ira in this country, for example, just remembering role the

remembering the role that the bbc took in world war two, visiting the territory war rooms, do you think the bbc would have that germany would have thought that germany shouldn't call by their names as the enemy and shouldn't be named by the atrocities they did? >> because they don't want to take side? are they standing in the side the western people the side of the western people that are fighting, fighting for freedom ? is terror freedom? this is terror organisation . all western organisation. all western community, all international community, all international community should make sure hamas won't exist after this war. >> well , tzipi hotovely, the >> well, tzipi hotovely, the ambassador to the uk, thank you for joining this today on the show. thank you . show. thank you. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. who are your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. if you enjoyed the fine conditions we've had around this weekend, we've had around this weekend, we will be holding on to that into the start of the new week

as lot of nice as well. a lot of nice conditions to end this evening with scattered with as well. a few scattered showers some coastal showers for some coastal districts north, but most districts in the north, but most of will staying dry. some of us will be staying dry. some isolated and fog patches of us will be staying dry. some isolpossible and fog patches of us will be staying dry. some isolpossible overnightpatches of us will be staying dry. some isolpossible overnight and1es are possible overnight and temperatures will be tumbling down a bit to low single down a bit mid to low single figures our towns and cities. figures in our towns and cities. rural can a touch rural spots can expect a touch of particularly for of frost, particularly for central down of frost, particularly for cent northern down of frost, particularly for cent northern england. down of frost, particularly for cent northern england. so down of frost, particularly for centnorthern england. so quite of frost, particularly for c(chillythern england. so quite of frost, particularly for c(chilly start england. so quite of frost, particularly for c(chilly start t0|gland. so quite of frost, particularly for c(chilly start to mondayo quite a chilly start to monday morning. we will also be a touch more cloud around on monday compared so compared to the weekend. so i can't the wall—to—wall can't promise the wall—to—wall sunshine, us had sunshine, but some of us had throughout saturday and sunday, but some brightness still poking through their through hazy sunshine in their showers into the far showers feeding into the far southeast england . few southeast of england. a few deaths northern scotland deaths across northern scotland as perhaps up as well. temperatures perhaps up by a degree or so compared to sunday, generally around 11 to 13 c. the winds, though, will be strengthening in the southwest, and that is due to this area of low pressure that is gradually going to push its way northwards as towards tuesday. so as we head towards tuesday. so increasingly to increasingly starting to see gales for parts wales gales develop for parts of wales and southwest england as head and southwest england as we head into tuesday . most us should into tuesday. most of us should stay during daylight hours,

stay dry during daylight hours, though. this shield of though. just this shield of cloud gradually pushing its way northward. so again, sunshine turning this turning hazier in places. this rain, though, will eventually move its way in as we head into the middle part of the week. potentially heavy at and potentially heavy at times and some disruption is possible. so do

>> good evening. you're with gb news. the top story tonight, the us secretary of state, antony blinken has been underlining four key objectives as the us is sticking he continues with sticking to as he continues with his diplomacy his round of shuttle diplomacy in the middle east. he repeated the position that it stands the us's position that it stands by as expressing by israel, as well as expressing the the conflict the hope that the conflict would not over any other