gb news. >> happy monday , one and all. >> happy monday, one and all. it's 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is gb news tonight after 30,000 pro—palestine supporters took over the streets of london on saturday during protests marred by anti semitic chanting. i'll explain why the woke left should hang their heads in shame for cheering this on. israel's fight is ours to. that is my big opinion next then i'll get reaction from my top pundits. carole malone , benjamin carole malone, benjamin buttennorth and belinda de lucy . buttennorth and belinda de lucy. plus, i'll speak to iranian dissident vahid beheshti. why? well because he was chased by a mob of pro—palestine protesters who allegedly threatened to behead him if in london in 2023 because he was carrying an israeli flag. vahid recounts his terrifying ordeal live in the studio shortly . and with fears

studio shortly. and with fears of an all out war in the middle east growing by the day, i'll get the blistering take of one of america's biggest conservative commentators, the world ben shapiro. also world renowned ben shapiro. also coming up, as prisons in britain struggle with an overcrowding crisis , should foreign criminals crisis, should foreign criminals face immediate deportation ? and face immediate deportation? and a ban from returning to the uk , a ban from returning to the uk, is it good riddance ? i'll be is it good riddance? i'll be asking reform uk leader and gb news star richard tice s plus should it be against the law to misgender someone ? according to misgender someone? according to labour plans for justice, calling someone by the wrong pronoun could land you in jail . pronoun could land you in jail. ernest jones and rebecca jane debate that one in the clash. all so i've done a few in my time . our fat jokes offensive time. our fat jokes offensive the brains behind notting hill and love. actually richard curtis has said oh, i'm so sorry and promised he'll never use them in his films again. but is that political correctness gone mad or is it progress? what's wrong with jokes about the chubster ? that's our big debate chubster? that's our big debate later , as always, you'll get

later, as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper. front pages, hot off the press and fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie is uncancelled. later in the show with some very harsh words for the bbc. so a blockbuster two hours coming up. my big opinion is on its way. you won't want to miss it. first, the news and polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. we start this bulletin with some breaking news that's reaching us from brussels tonight, belgium's capital city. we can tell you there appears to have been a terrorist attack in brussels tonight. and we can tell you a suspect is on the run after two people were shot dead. this happened just over an hour ago in the belgian capital, brussels . local media reporting brussels. local media reporting that as a terrorist attack , the that as a terrorist attack, the belgian prime minister we can also tell you, alexander de croo has confirmed both victims were swedish nationals . he's convened

swedish nationals. he's convened an emergency session of his government. those live pictures coming to you from brussels as we speak as forensic teams descend on the scene, desperate to preserve evidence of the last hour or so. and exactly what has happened.the hour or so. and exactly what has happened. the victims thought to have been football supporters visiting the belgian capital for their country's euro 2024 qualifier against belgium. at least some eyewitness reports saying they were wearing swedish football tops. well, we're monitoring local media in belgium for you. we can also tell you they're saying that the gunman has posted a video on social media claiming to be part of isis . and also in that video of isis. and also in that video that he's posted online when he is speaking arabic and he's carried out the attack in the name of god. so as you can see, a serious event in brussels in belgium tonight, french teams on the scene, a police presence on

the scene, a police presence on the streets. two people dead, a gunman on the run and an emergency session for the belgian government tonight as they try to work out what happened. and indeed, there response going fonnard, bringing more on that as we get it. now, here in the uk, the prime minister has confirmed at least six british citizens were killed in the hamas attack on israel last weekend and a further ten people. he said, are still missing. this morning rishi sunak visited a jewish secondary school in north london, reassuring students his government will always support them . and then later he told the them. and then later he told the commons the government would be providing an extra £10 million in humanitarian aid for gaza , in humanitarian aid for gaza, saying the palestinian people were victims of hamas to , well, were victims of hamas to, well, the shuttle diplomacy continues as well. the us secretary of state is in israel again holding talks with senior leaders on how to get that aid into gaza. antony blinken's visit comes as doctors in gaza say they're struggling to treat the huge

numbers of patients injured in airstrikes. aid agencies saying hospitals are running out of medicines and fuel for generators with only the most serious cases given access to vital treatment . and the united vital treatment. and the united nafions vital treatment. and the united nations has warned the humanitarian situation on the gaza strip is deteriorating quickly. well there was hope twice earlier on today that aid could come through to gaza, through egypt's rafah crossing. that's in the south on its border with gaza. there was an expectation the crossing would open first thing this morning and then again this afternoon. but it still hasn't opened up despite thousands massing at the border, desperate to get out of the gaza strip . in the meantime , the gaza strip. in the meantime, in the north of israel, hezbollah , as we understand from hezbollah, as we understand from our correspondent charlie peters, on the ground in tel aviv , has been firing rockets at aviv, has been firing rockets at israel in the northern territories , and the israeli territories, and the israeli defence force has returned fire with shelling helicopter gunships as they also , as you

gunships as they also, as you can see from the pictures here near ashkelon, gather in the south to prepare for their ground offensive. the us president joe biden telling iran not to get involved today and also saying he was confident israel would act under the rules of war acting. there must be so thing i've been adding there must be a path to a palestinian state. it well, here at home, hundreds of people gathered outside the bbc's bbc's headquarters tonight in london to protest against the corporation's editorial stance on hamas. the corporation is facing a backlash from jewish groups for calling hamas militants instead of terrorists. the crowd , supported by the the crowd, supported by the national jewish assembly outside broadcasting house, chanted bbc shame on you with one placard reading if the king calls hamas terrorists, so can you . the bbc terrorists, so can you. the bbc hasissued terrorists, so can you. the bbc has issued a statement saying it takes the use of language very seriously. pro—palestinian

activists have also criticised the bbc covering its headquarters in red paint at the weekend . that's the news on tv weekend. that's the news on tv online dab+ radio and the tunein app. this is . gb news. well come app. this is. gb news. well come to gb news where we're not afraid of the word terror ist. >> now you don't have to be jewish to be terrified by the reaction in this country to an evil terror attack on israel. the only democracy in the middle east. hamas's goal is genocide to wipe out one specific group of people because of their race. precisely the goal of hitler under the. you'd think that what is effectively a second holocaust on the jewish people that we're now witnessing would trigger howls of fury . you'd trigger howls of fury. you'd think that thousands of freedom loving brits would be on the streets waving the israeli flag and condemning these atrocities because that's what you would do

if hitler came back. wouldn't you? well, now i'm not so sure. how else can you explain thousands of people this week in sydney, australia, supposed to be a civilised country chanting gas, the jews . how about this gas, the jews. how about this charming lady in glasgow taunting jewish people? this week about the second . world week about the second. world war? amte power ? don't forget war? amte power? don't forget where you went in 1940 . four where you went in 1940. four horrific stuff. how else can you explain the anti—semitic chants in the capital and the authorities permitting the construction of a free palestine protest stage in front of the cenotaph , a sacred memorial to cenotaph, a sacred memorial to remember those that we lost in the first and second world wars is that monument this weekend has been a backdrop for the effective cheering on of a murderous mediaeval terror squad . i'm sorry, but if you were one

of those people waving a palestine flag hours after the murder of 260 revellers at a music festival and hours after the rape torture and murder of innocent civilians and the mutilation of children , then you mutilation of children, then you are allying yourself to this evil when you should be standing up to it. here we go again. jewish people targeted and killed in berlin. these lovely pro palestinian protesters are marking houses with a star of david to highlight where the jews are living. the same is happening to jewish businesses in germany. folks . in 2023. in germany. folks. in 2023. where is the anger? where is the revulsion? where are the marches on the streets for this hellish repetition of history ? and where repetition of history? and where is gary lineker, who's obsessed with linking everything to 1930 germany except actual identical actions , those that are the same actions, those that are the same as what happened in 1930.

germany perhaps gary's been busy watching another bottle of just for men charcoal edition into his hair. me while those fools at the met police proudly announced on twitter that the weekend's protests in the capital largely went without incident. tell that to the editor of the jewish chronicle who observed that and i quote there is a carnival of jew hate in london. this weekend. now i want peace and safety for the people of palestine and the people of palestine and the people of palestine and the people of israel . israel may people of israel. israel may well have a case to answer for its treatment of palestinians and a two state solution must surely be the holy grail. and the aim . but right now, israel the aim. but right now, israel faces an existential threat. what we saw last saturday was a shot across the bows. israel are right that hamas must be eliminated in the way that isis and al—qaeda had to be in the past. is israel's fight, is our fight. it's a fight for anyone in the western world, a fight

against fascism, a fight against evil ideology, and a fight for freedom. what an insult to our fallen heroes of both world wars that this weekend white hall was flooded with people trashing the values for which they gave their lives. keir starmer has been brilliant on this. well done to him. but the woke left should hang their heads in shame. him. but the woke left should hang their heads in shame . what hang their heads in shame. what we're witnessing at the moment as jewish children, the elderly and a holocaust survivor are held hostage is the selective morality of the be kind crowd. the self—styled nice people pred the self—styled nice people ripped to the on anti—semitic hatred are cheering on murder. mutilate and rape. and a litany of war crimes don't forget this. i know the bbc struggled to tell you this, but hamas is an evil terror outfit dripping in wicked wretched and faintly satanic ideology . if israel falls, we ideology. if israel falls, we all fall. just as in 1938, once again , we must stand up to evil,

again, we must stand up to evil, not celebrate it in london, manchester, glasgow and beyond. if jewish people can't be safe in britain , then we're not in britain, then we're not a proper country anymore . now, proper country anymore. now, what's your reaction, mark, at gbnews.com. let's get reaction from the daily express columnist carol maloney, journalist and broadcaster benjamin buttennorth and former brexit party mep beunda and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. carol, if israel falls, we all do know. >> i totally agree. i've been ashamed of my country over the past ten days. i've been ashamed at at, you know , the phrase kept at at, you know, the phrase kept on going round , ricocheting in on going round, ricocheting in my head man's inhumanity to man. because not just for what actually happened in israel. i mean, put that to one side for a moment, if you can, in and you've got to look at people's reaction here to it and the consensus among a lot of people is they were asking for it, not a single baby who died was asking for it. not a single woman who was raped and then

killed was asking for it. not a single family that was slaughtered was asking for it. this was a terrorist group that did this. and i am shocked and ashamed that people took to the streets on saturday were streets on saturday and were chanting this stuff. and i'm even ashamed of our cops. even more ashamed of our cops. seriously, what are the police in this country for? i think there was something like three charges put forth other day, charges put forth the other day, 15 arrests. and i saw people attacking cops. thought i saw attacking cops. i thought i saw protesters cops . why protesters attacking cops. why aren't they in jail now ? and aren't they in jail now? and what about all the people, all the university this the university lecturers this week have the murder week who have called the murder of and people in israel of children and people in israel beautiful? what about the woman who's standing in a south kensington restaurant looking at the video of her family being slaughtered and saying, oh, are your why hasn't your people dying? why hasn't she arrested ? and all she been arrested? and all of these people should be arrested for hate crime. you know, the cops this country, they're cops in this country, they're too around looking too busy faffing around looking for anti trans nonsense rather than going for the islamists who are on our streets. and we know that tonight two more people have been killed brussels.

have been killed in brussels. i justi have been killed in brussels. i just i just i'm ashamed that, you know that that % anas you know and on that that% anas sannar should never have gone ahead. sannar should never have gone ahead . france have banned the ahead. france have banned the protest because that wasn't that couldn't of entertained a dissenting voice on saturday. you couldn't have had jews out there. there was one guy waving a jewish who we're going to a jewish flag who we're going to talk look what happened talk to and look what happened to him. the mob set upon him. so, i mean, i just i just think the people who shouting the people who are shouting all this nonsense, i you don't it's terrifying . you don't have to be terrifying. you don't have to be jewish to be afraid of what's happening now because what's happening now because what's happening to them going to be happening to them is going to be happening to them is going to be happening all us. because happening to all of us. because all us. i'm not. you said all of us. i'm not. you said this before, and really this before, and it's really important to say this. you know, i the deaths of the i mourn the deaths of the children the people children and the people in palestine, children and the people in pales killed since saturday. and been killed since saturday. and i mourn people in israel. i mourn the people in israel. you none of them were to you know, none of them were to blame for what happened. one group blame and it was group was to blame and it was a group was to blame and it was a group of butchers hamas, group of butchers called hamas, who about the who don't give a stuff about the people israel. they don't people in israel. they don't care. don't care about the casualties. >> indeed. now, benjamin, i've applauded keir starmer for unambiguous

applauded keir starmer for unarraiguous applauded keir starmer for unarra terror attack. but many after a terror attack. but many on the woke left should hang their heads in shame. >> i mean, first of all, you'd expect from starmer expect that from keir starmer because forget his because people often forget his wife are practising wife and children are practising jews, so this will close jews, so this will be very close to home his family and his to home for his family and his father's toolmaker as father's a toolmaker indeed. as they look, i think they often say. look, i think they often say. look, i think the that the woke left are the idea that the woke left are the idea that the woke left are the people celebrate this is nonsense, because of course, those people on streets those people on the streets despise people or women's despise gay people or women's rights. they couldn't be further from tried. from woke if they tried. correct. but frustrates me correct. but what frustrates me is that i think the police are incredibly naive. in the last week , many of these people week, many of these people i suspect most that have chosen to go out and march are not pro—palestine. they are anti semite. yes. if they really cared about the muslim people in that part of the world and about the palestinians , they would be the palestinians, they would be with the jews and the israelis asking why gaza is run by an organisation , an a terrorist organisation, an a terrorist organisation, an a terrorist organisation that takes away the most basic human rights at all times from people living in gaza. you know, they stand with these signs that say free

palestine. well, i think freedom would be in very short supply if palestine really were an independent state under hamas. and the truth is that when they use the language of peace and justice, they are trying to give an alibi to evil. justice, they are trying to give an alibi to evil . and none of us an alibi to evil. and none of us should let that happen. >> however, belinda, the prime minister and leader of the opposition, were explicit to say that the palestinian people are not reflective of hamas or vice versa , that the majority of versa, that the majority of people in palestine just want to live their lives in safety . live their lives in safety. there have got to have been thousands of people that have been on these pro—palestine marches this weekend in the last few days who want peace and are simply speaking up for their people, who, let's be honest, have seen decades of privation and death. >> i mean, hamas uses palestinians as human shields . i palestinians as human shields. i mean, there are no friend to the palestinians. all this slaughter and rape and beheading has done nothing to further the palestinian cause . the march on palestinian cause. the march on saturday should be everyone united muslims, christians ,

united muslims, christians, jews, non—religious, coming together against islamist terror attacks which cause unimaginable suffering around the world. but unfortunately, it's been years and years and years of complacency from western leaders that has revived under this this different cloak . you know, we different cloak. you know, we saw in 2019 an asia bibi, different cloak. you know, we saw in 2019 an asia bibi , the saw in 2019 an asia bibi, the pakistani christian, who wants refuge in this country . refuge in this country. >> but our government said no because it didn't want to upset the islamist extremists in this country. i knew then that that we had kind of fallen and lost our priorities and lost our moral moral compass. in 2021, there were convoys of cars with palestinian flags going up and down jewish streets and threatening to sexually assault at jewish mothers. jewish women's . no one was prosecuted. women's. no one was prosecuted. and what is arresting going to do anyway? it's not going to stop the hate mark. that hate is already there. the government needs to go much further and root the hate. that's in root out the hate. that's in this country our jewish people. >> but when you have when you

have policemen, you know, the that cops today are issuing, that the cops today are issuing, they are saying to people, if you those two women you know who those two women were had those para gliders were who had those para gliders on backs the other day . on their backs the other day. yeah. do you know what i could find? those two women, you know, they're easy. there was there they're so easy. there was there was photographers want was a dozen photographers want to seen. well, no, there's to be seen. well, no, there's a dozen around from dozen photographers around from national newspapers taking photographs. ring them up and say, got say, hey, have you got a picture? because some of them will have got front face shot will have got a front face shot on there are cameras all on them. there are cameras all over of london. why over the streets of london. why don't have the don't they have all the agitators now in custody? but it's in our schools. >> our universities. >> it's in our universities. they're being taught . they're they're being taught. they're being that. they're being taught. they're beiibut that. they're being taught. they're beiibut i'mt. they're being taught. they're beiibut i'm saying is that >> but what i'm saying is that thing on saturday where you have people that people blatantly inciting that wasn't pro—palestine, that was anti on saturday, anti jewish protest on saturday, and knew and they knew it. >> people who attended the >> the people who attended the protest knew that it would cause harm stress in the harm and stress and fear in the british community. and british jewish community. and they knew it would be infiltrated by hamas supporters. they knew it would be infil'theyi by hamas supporters. they knew it would be infil'they wentiamas supporters. they knew it would be infil'they went aheadsupporters. they knew it would be infil'they went aheadsuppwmarched anyway. >> where's where, you know, anyway. >> wtise's where, you know, anyway. >> wtis where are, you know, anyway. >> wtis where are you know, anyway. >> wtis where are the know, anyway. >> wtis where are the where is where is where are the where is the now that those people the fear now that those people can't again, there's no can't do that again, there's no

fear. fear because cops fear. no fear because the cops aren't do. and i would aren't going to do. and i would just say one other thing, which is, know, i struggled get is, you know, i struggled to get to this studio on saturday night is, you know, i struggled to get to ithe studio on saturday night is, you know, i struggled to get to ithe program. saturday night for the program. >> do because of the scale of >> i do because of the scale of riot police kensington, riot police around kensington, where embassy is. where the israeli embassy is. yeah, find me one countries yeah, you find me one countries embassy that embassy allied to palestine that has subjected to that from has been subjected to that from jewish people, supporters of israel. and israel. it's not happening. and i think we know why. >> i completely agree. that's my strong if people strong view. if jewish people are britain, we're are not safe in britain, we're not a proper country anymore. there you go. well, look, lots more to come after violence flared the streets of britain flared on the streets of britain over the weekend, we'll be joined by man threatened joined by the man threatened with simply with beheading simply for carrying flag without carrying an israeli flag without police intervention , he could police intervention, he could have lost his life. he is

from three on. gb news should you be sent to jail for misgendering someone? >> imagine a biological bloke that identifies as a woman. you say he rather than she and you're banged up. well, that could happen under a labour government. will debate that in the clash, but the israeli hamas conflict has sparked political tensions across the united kingdom and one shocking example was caught video this weekend was caught on video this weekend as an iranian waving as an iranian dissident waving an israeli flag was attacked by an israeli flag was attacked by a baying mob of pro—palestine protesters outside the foreign office in london, horrific scenes . take a look .

welcome to the united kingdom. in 2023, folks . the victim, in 2023, folks. the victim, vahid beheshti , had to be vahid beheshti, had to be protected by around 50 police officers and claims that one of the attackers has threatened to behead him. he was later found in possession of a large knife. in a sinister snapshot of how quickly things abroad can trigger closer to home. while i'm delighted to say that vahid joins me now in the studio, vahid , first of all, are you vahid, first of all, are you okay physically now? >> now, yes. yeah thank you. >> now, yes. yeah thank you. >> what were your emotions as this mob ran after you ? this mob ran after you? >> so i thought, it's going to be finished because i saw i saw

the when you say finished, what do you mean? i mean that i thought are going to kill thought they are going to kill me i saw what they'd me because i saw what they'd done. ten days ago in israel . i done. ten days ago in israel. i know their natures . 233, 36 days know their natures. 233, 36 days ihave know their natures. 233, 36 days i have been camping outside of the foreign office the first 72 daysi the foreign office the first 72 days i was on hunger strike, two weeks in hospital. then i came back in order to ask our government to place irgc , the government to place irgc, the godfather of hamas , hezbollah, godfather of hamas, hezbollah, jihad islami and other terrorist group on the list of terrorist organisations. and we have to do this because hamas and hezbollah are proscribed in this country legally. we have to proscribe the founder of them. and the main supporter of them, which is irgc , iranian islamic irgc, iranian islamic revolutionary guard corp's . revolutionary guard corp's. yeah, but the government is not doing that. >> what is their ideology? >> what is their ideology? >> their ideology. they want to turn the whole world to the islamic state. that's what their ideology . and they do everything

ideology. and they do everything in order to reach to that idea . in order to reach to that idea. >> what happens if you're a christian or a jew or just an atheist? >> i'm just going to give you the example. this saturday, the guy was walking in front of my tent and for half an hour he was shouting, jews are not allowed to live on on our planet. on 21st century in middle of london, they were chanting this. this weren't palestinian protesters. this is people. they were terrorists who they gathered in front of our tents, about 100 of them. and they trying to kill me. as you explain . and, you know, one of explain. and, you know, one of the guy who said to me, i'm going to cut your neck later on when they arrested him, he was waiting in front of my tent when he was dark, police arrested him. he was carrying a knife with him. so was going to do with him. so he was going to do that. what they done in israel. let me put it in this way. we are in this war. maybe some people, don't like it. we people, they don't like it. we are war with terrorists. we are in war with terrorists. we have way we have to

have there is no way we have to get rid of this. of course, it's going to be painful. it's like a cancer you have you're going through the surgery. it's to going be in the region, going be painful in the region, in order to clean the region, we have to get rid of hezbollah, hamas, jihad , islam, other hamas, jihad, islam, other terrorist group. and then the head of octopus . these are the head of octopus. these are the legs and the hands of octopus . legs and the hands of octopus. the head of octopus is irgc. iranian regime , islamic iranian regime, islamic revolutionary iran is a is a nuclear power . nuclear power. >> they have nuclear weapons. not yet. what happens if iran enters this war? >> i think this is going to happen sooner or later because as iran has no choice, iranian regime and every every hamas is iranian regime , hamas, it can it iranian regime, hamas, it can it cannot last even few weeks if iranian regime won't support them. so if the other terrorist groups see iranian regime is not

going to support hamas , then going to support hamas, then they're going to lose the trust of iranian regime. so iranian regime, as soon as israel entered to the gaza, it iranian regime somehow is going to get involved because it's not going to lose the other terrorist groups trust it. so we are going to witness this. but let me put it this way. there is a shortcut for the world leaders , a stand for the world leaders, a stand on the side of the iranian people more than 80 million of iranian people are are trying really hard to bring this regime down. as soon as something happen , i promise the iranian happen, i promise the iranian regime are the ones who are going to finish the iranian the iranian people are the ones who are going to finish the iranian regime. but iranian regime use this proxies in past years, past years to put fear inside the in neighbour countries and the west and appeasement policy. unfortunately we are carrying

with our appeasement policy, stand up to iran, to stand up hamas, israel must eliminate the threat of hamas at all costs. exactly. and what about you? >> you almost died this week. what are your family think of the situation, your loved ones. do they want you to stop ? do they want you to stop? >> they all want me to stop. but i'm not going to do that for. >> will you go out again with an israeli flag? >> let me explain what happened. actually waving this actually i wasn't waving this israeli so on the third israeli flag. so on the third attack, we got attacked three times. on the third attack, they got the israeli flag from top of my camp , broke it and took it. my camp, broke it and took it. i went after them and i got the israeli flag back. the scene, you see you we all watch. i've got the israeli flag back from them. and i went there because i knew what they what they were going to do. they were going to burn the israeli flag in front of my camp. and i wouldn't let that happen. i'm going stay that happen. i'm going to stay in of foreign in front of foreign office. doesn't matter it takes doesn't matter how long it takes and doesn't matter what price are paid until we prescribe the

irgc put them where they belong are paid until we prescribe the ir(the ut them where they belong are paid until we prescribe the ir(the listlem where they belong are paid until we prescribe the ir(the list of1 where they belong are paid until we prescribe the ir(the list of terroristthey belong organisations. >> thank you so much for >> vahid, thank you so much for joining us. a compelling and quite devastating to quite devastating story to hear firsthand. beheshti there, firsthand. vahid beheshti there, your reaction ? mark gb news.com your reaction? mark gb news.com closer to home as britain's pnsons closer to home as britain's prisons reach full capacity, should foreign criminals face immediate deportation and bans from returning to the uk? i'll be asking richard tice. he's live in the studio next. but next up in the clash stateside, journalist and author ernest jones goes head to head with deputy ukip leader rebecca jane, asking whether it should be illegal to misgender someone . so illegal to misgender someone. so basically you could go to jail for saying that a biological man is a woman, or vice versa. the world's gone mad. we'll debate

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930 . how would richard six till 930. how would richard tice make britain safer? >> how would he tackle overcrowding in prisons? the leader of reform uk gb news star richard tice is coming up shortly, but it's time now for this . yes, it's time for the this. yes, it's time for the clash. now deliberately calling someone by the wrong gender pronouns may land you in jail for two years under labour. according to the mail on sunday, keir starmer is determined to toughen up the sentencing guidelines for abuse and violence against trans people and would make attacks motivated by hatred of the victim's genden by hatred of the victim's gender. ident entity and aggravated offence . however, aggravated offence. however, critics are warning the policy could mean jail sentences for

someone refusing to use a trans gender person's preferred pronouns or referring to them by their former name or their birth sex. rather than their chosen genden sex. rather than their chosen gender. what do you think? should it be against the law to misgender someone? by the way? what this means is that you could have a biological male fully intact at full meat and two veg, and you say he rather than she. and you've got two years in clink. is that acceptable? let me know your thoughts at gb news on twitter or you can go to email market gbnews.com and do vote in our onune gbnews.com and do vote in our online poll at twitter as well to debate this. i'm delighted to welcome the journalist and author of the case for cancel culture , ernest owens and ukip culture, ernest owens and ukip deputy leader rebecca jane ernest. should it be against the law to misgender someone i believe if the person is showing malicious intent, if they're going out of their way to really create an unsafe environment for a person, i definitely think thatis a person, i definitely think that is a form of harassment and

with the intention to draw for a level of harm to that person. >> we know that when people are being publicly misjudged , being publicly misjudged, ordered and direct ways that may not be of any type of real innocence, that the intent is to humiliate, to bully, to cause harm to that person and if you're going to weaponize their sexuality or their gender identity or expression as a way to create that kind of harm, i definitely think there should be some level of consequence , some level of consequence, because the reality is, is that when people are misgendered in their workplace space and public spaces , it can lead to physical spaces, it can lead to physical harm , it can lead to harm, it can lead to discrimination in other issues. and i think that it's not as simple as some people may try to mischaracterise it, but it actually a real issue . actually is a real issue. >> ernest this is a legal minefield, though , isn't it? how minefield, though, isn't it? how could you prove malicious intent if somebody says he rather than she? perhaps they're just stating the facts, but i think the trivialise it right .

the trivialise it right. >> i think in many cases misgender ing takes place more aggressively when a person corrects an individual and they still choose to do so and make it make it a point to continue to do so. >> and why can't they do that environment? >> because at the end of the day, would you want someone to disrespect you if someone saw you and you said your name is dr. so—and—so so—and—so and they chose or let's say the royal queen, right? queen elizabeth and someone you say. you say your majesty , because she's your majesty, because she's royalty. and you said, i'm not saying that. i'm going to keep saying that. i'm going to keep saying elizabeth. that's a form of disrespect. right. and so we have titles and positions in this world where we're supposed to properly identify people respectfully. see a, you respectfully. if you see a, you know, a woman and you consistently called her, you know him, you keep on doing that to someone, you're literally trying to draw attention in a way that's disrespectful. and we know that is i mean, you know, think, for example, the n—word. right? someone says to me, i'm

not going to refer to you as an african—american or a black person. i'm going to call you the n—word, because that's how i feel. that's hate speech . that's feel. that's hate speech. that's violent, that's rude . and there violent, that's rude. and there should a consequence for that i >> okay. well, listen , i think >> okay. well, listen, i think when it comes to the late queen, it's a statement of fact that she was her majesty. it's a statement of fact that she was called elizabeth. and by the way, you're to call me way, you're welcome to call me doctor. a vocation. doctor. it's a vocation. my mother me to mother always wanted me to pursue. listen, what do you pursue. but listen, what do you think, rebecca? jane banged up for misgendering what's for misgendering someone? what's wrong ? wrong with that? >> yeah. i mean, last week, we're getting told that our pnsons we're getting told that our prisons are full, and we should stop jailing rapists. >> and this week, loony >> and then this week, loony labour trying to people labour are trying to put people in for up to two years in prison for up to two years for misgendering. somebody so i firmly support anybody that wants to change their gender that, you know, live your best life . but this is setting a very life. but this is setting a very dangerous hierarchy of gender and a precedent. you know , and a precedent. you know, freedom of speech is absolutely a basic right. and this new law would trump that. you know, we

would trump that. you know, we would see women put in jail for up to two years. if she refers to a biological male as being female. now, if that woman does call that biological male a biological male, anything else? well, it's just not true. it would be complete and utter gaslighting. and my question is, where do we go with this? you know, do we start allowing people to identify themselves as fish? and if we say no , you're fish? and if we say no, you're human, we get locked up for two years. where does this end ? the years. where does this end? the world is so divided today. you know, we've just sat and seen that and it's absolutely traumatic. and in a time where we should be trying to bring people together, this potential new law would do only other than create complete division . create complete division. >> okay, rebecca jane. but if you have a biological male intact that identifies . as intact that identifies. as female, if you call her a him , female, if you call her a him, you're a filthy bigot. >> yeah. and it's absolutely ridiculous because at the end of

the day, that person is a biological male. we can't pretend othennise . it's pretend othennise. it's gaslighting to say that we can we can say to them, you know, you are male or whatever and all the rest of it, but to actually then make us believe that that's what they were at birth, that's not true. we've got to talk about science and about biology . about science and about biology. and biology is not changing. >> rebecca jane, this is bigoted language. you are a bigot. >> bigot . >> bigot. >> bigot. >> oh, dear, oh dear. put me in prison. >> mark. >> mark. >> i just don't. >> i just don't. >> well, we don't want don't want you to do that, ernest, do you want to come back to what? rj had to say? >> yes. i just don't understand why it's so hard to just respect people for how they identify and don't that it's fair to don't think that it's fair to make the generalisation between species we're talking about. humans identify themselves as humans . and why is it that when humans. and why is it that when someone decides to identify as a gender to which they see fit, that we're confusing that with another species of, of mammals?

>> rebecca rj ernest , another species of, of mammals? >> rebecca rj ernest, i'll another species of, of mammals? >> rebecca rj ernest , i'll come >> rebecca rj ernest, i'll come back to you . let rebecca jayne, back to you. let rebecca jayne, respond to that . yeah, back to respond to that. yeah, back to the bigger your turn you can identify is whatever you want to identify is whatever you want to identify us but we shouldn't be criminalise people for having their belief that that's not what that person was born as. >> why are you denying biology ? >> why are you denying biology? ernest i, i mean, i don't think no one's denying biology, but who makes you the scientist to describe the evolution of a person we know about gender dysphoria. >> that's a scientific term. if you understand biology and science, you understand that people who are transgender often times experience gender dysphoria . that leads to these dysphoria. that leads to these issues that also leads them to being transgender. and so it's funny how people make the biology and the science reference but don't actually acknowledge the research behind what leads a person to transition now. so if we know that to be true, then we should respect who they identify as. >> ernest i'm a big fan of your

writing. i love it when you come on the show and thank you for joining us tonight. i think you've spoken eloquently, you've spoken very eloquently, actually convincingly. actually and convincingly. but here's i think here's the issue. i think rebecca both that if rebecca and i both agree that if someone by a someone identifies by a different gender, good luck to them. free world. no them. it's a free world. no problem. i have trans friends myself . but if you force people myself. but if you force people to their gender, to acknowledge their gender, that's compelling speech and that's compelling speech and that's not compatible with a free society . free society. >> i disagree with that because i think that once again , the i think that once again, the reality is how often do we allow other people to have possession of our identities ? it leads to of our identities? it leads to discrimination in many ways because then you open the floodgates of how people decide to dress you as a black, queer person . there are people who person. there are people who don't believe in, quote unquote, homosexuality and therefore they will not properly identify myself and my husband . they'll myself and my husband. they'll say, oh, your friend . i'm like, say, oh, your friend. i'm like, that's not my friend. that's my husband.i that's not my friend. that's my husband. i don't believe in a world that two men can

biologically be in love. but i won't refer to you as a husband. you have to respect how people self—identify by their unions and not allow them to make these, these these arbitrary, you know , you know, poppycock you know, you know, poppycock ish. you know, definitions around identity for others. okay that's just not fair. >> listen , ernest, rebecca, what >> listen, ernest, rebecca, what a brilliant debate. thank you both for your time. the author of the case for cancel culture , of the case for cancel culture, ernest owens and ukip deputy leader rebecca jane, what do you think? market news.com , bob on think? market news.com, bob on twitter says, what an utterly ridiculous proposal labour would never get this law passed anyway. paul says it should only be illegal if it's deliberately to cause harassment or likely to create or incite a public order offence. jane says since when did offending someone become illegal? the world and labour have gone mad. well, your verdict in. 7% agree that it verdict is in. 7% agree that it should be against the law to misgender someone. 93% say it should not coming up, as fears of all out war grow in the

egyptian president says israel has gone beyond the right to self—defence. has their retaliation against hamas gone too far? my panel debate that shortly . but next, as prisons in shortly. but next, as prisons in britain struggle with an overcrowding crisis , should overcrowding crisis, should foreign criminals face immediate deportation and a ban from returning to the uk, who are you going to ask richard tice live in the studio. the leader of reform uk. he's

n ext next welcome back to the show. we'll get to your email shortly. us media megastar ben shapiro coming up in a minute. but first, it's time for gb news presenter and the leader of reform uk tice. now reform uk richard tice. now after the alarming news last week that some criminals could walk free as britain's prisons grapple with a record number of inmates just this. secretary alex chalk has today announced a flurry of policies to address the overcrowding crisis. >> we will legislate for a

presumption that custodial sentences of less than 12 months in prison will be suspended and offenders will punished in offenders will be punished in the instead, repaying the community instead, repaying their communities , their debt within communities, cleaning neighbourhoods their debt within communities, cleascrubbing neighbourhoods their debt within communities, clea scrubbing graffiti bourhoods their debt within communities, clea scrubbing graffiti offirhoods and scrubbing graffiti off walls. we will also remove foreign offenders who should not be in the united kingdom, taking up space in our prisons at vast expense to the taxpayer . expense to the taxpayer. >> okay, interesting stuff . that >> okay, interesting stuff. that was alex chalk. now let me say richard tice joins me in the studio with his manifesto ideas to make britain safer. richard, first of all, the overcrowding , first of all, the overcrowding, it's a huge problem for our viewers and listeners. >> well, it is a huge problem, but it's not surprising because our population has grown by about 10 million in the 15 about 10 million in the last 15 years. and we haven't increased the number of prison places accordingly . so back in about 20 accordingly. so back in about 20 years ago, we had about 250 prisoners per 100,000 of population in england and wales. that number has dropped by about 25 to 30% to about 160 per

100,000 of population. that shows that basically under the last to mainstream parties, under labour and under the tories, they've gone soft on crime , they've gone soft on crime, they've gone soft on pnson crime, they've gone soft on prison and guess what? we're now feeling the pain and the suffering of it. we've got feral gangs marauding our streets. no consequences, no fear of any form of deterrent. we've got knife crime through the roof. exactly the same reason you have to basically say we're going to have zero tolerance for broken windows policy. we know it works because it works in new york. and you say if you're a shoplifting, if you're carrying a knife, you're gone. you're off the streets somewhere a the streets somewhere into a detention camp , somewhere detention camp, somewhere cold, damp , inhospitable, in a far damp, inhospitable, in a far flung part of the uk. and you're there for some time. and then guess what? it's a deterrent. and we decent, law abiding, taxpaying folk will feel a lot safer on our streets. what's going you hear all this stuff from secretary. from the justice secretary. we're from the justice secretary. we' re of from the justice secretary. we're of words. we want we're sick of words. we want action. that's what we want.

>> well, indeed. and actually, he's going the other way. he wants to allow low level criminals to avoid jail and therefore disincentive therefore surely no disincentive to he's talking about to crime. he's talking about rebuilding , awaiting these rebuilding, awaiting these prisoners. think prisoners. but i think my viewers and listeners want punishment. you should afraid punishment. you should be afraid that going get caught. that you're going to get caught. there's problem, that you're going to get caught. there's richard. problem, that you're going to get caught. there's richard. yourlem, that you're going to get caught. there's richard. your plans are though, richard. your plans are going to cost you're going to cost money. you're going to cost money. you're going need to build more going to need to build more prisons. correct. the cost prisons. yes, correct. the cost of accommodating an adult prisoner this country is prisoner in this country is approximately year. approximately £40,000 a year. right eton is cheaper. so how are you going to pay for it? >> actually very simple. >> it's actually very simple. the of building prison the cost of building a prison place there currently about place there currently is about half million a place that's a half a million a place that's a palace. in most people's eyes, it's completely absurd. i've worked people who can put worked with people who can put up very cheap , cost effective up very cheap, cost effective detention centres , prefab, detention centres, prefab, prefab type places as sort of, you know, i use the wrong word, but a sort of prefab portakabin type places but secure. you can do that for a fraction of the price and yes, you can get people doing sensible things. you could be in a detention

centre, but actually go and plant trees or do something useful in the community. as long as you go back to the detention centre, the point is you're off the streets, you're out of the way. maybe we should be trying stocks, we should stocks, maybe we should do a poll on we should bring poll on whether we should bring back stocks in high streets back the stocks in high streets and humiliate these toerags. we've to prepared do we've got to be to prepared do something othennise something different. othennise if you don't do something different, nothing will ever change. the people are sick change. and the people are sick and tired of it. >> how do you tackle >> mark and how do you tackle the culture within the woke culture within policing? mean, actually policing? i mean, even actually in these in relation to these pro—palestinian demonstrations, the police said that they the met police said that they were largely peaceful and there wasn't much trouble. seven arrests. >> all of these things comes down to leadership and courage. so we reform uk are with our mayor candidate howard cox on friday lunchtime we said the demonstrate on saturday should not go ahead because it would clearly incite hatred, the risk of violence . and that's exactly of violence. and that's exactly what happened . that's the sort what happened. that's the sort of leadership that sadiq khan and the home secretary should should have thought about and

showed the courage to do on friday. then all of these events would not have occurred. and i think that's what we expect from our authorities , from our our authorities, from our leaders in society . we that we leaders in society. we that we elect into positions . and it's elect into positions. and it's all very well the strong words. you've got to follow that up with action. and people have got to respect the consequences. >> what about these low level criminals, though? if you're going to bang everyone up? in a manner speaking, richard, i'm manner of speaking, richard, i'm going there's such thing going to there's no such thing as low level criminal. going to there's no such thing as you're evel criminal. going to there's no such thing as you're either'iminal. going to there's no such thing as you're either a1inal. going to there's no such thing as you're either a criminal or >> you're either a criminal or you're not. and if you're a criminal, off you go. >> if you've perhaps, >> however, if you've perhaps, let's had a bit of let's say, had a bit of a history of shoplifting, is three months clink only going to months in clink only going to teach tricks of the teach you the tricks of the trade. alex schalk's trade. that's alex schalk's argument that actually those minor rehabil state so minor offences rehabil state so that they don't enter a life of crime. >> let's just look at the proof, shall we? let's look at the history, the evidence. just history, the evidence. i've just given data about how given you the data about how actually per 100,000 of population in our prison places, people prisons gone down. people in prisons has gone down. and we've got chaos and guess what? we've got chaos on streets. we've got less on the streets. we've got less respect deterrent effect and

respect and deterrent effect and fear of the consequences than even fear of the consequences than ever. so we know that that's softly, softly approach doesn't work . so let's try something work. so let's try something different because as i say, law abiding people feel less safe on the streets in all communities in particular, for example, amongst the jewish community. yeah. >> what about deporting foreign criminals ahead of schedule? that's the sooner the better. >> why should we pay? i mean, you might say, well, if someone's given a ten year sentence, you might say that a year here and then off you go. but why should we pay for them ? but why should we pay for them? frankly, just get them gone . we frankly, just get them gone. we don't want these people here. indeed >>i indeed >> i mean, would you do it instantly? i think there probably is a case to say we want some justice served here. >> othennise the fear would be they're deported immediately and they're deported immediately and they justice they serve no justice whatsoever. there's a bit of whatsoever. so there's a bit of a balance there and happy to have about it. but what have a debate about it. but what we be doing what we shouldn't be doing is what we've been which is let we've been doing, which is let them sort of two thirds of them serve sort of two thirds of them serve sort of two thirds of the sentence. let on

the sentence. let them out on some release , and some form of auto release, and then stay in the then let them stay in the country because they have some human because human rights appeal, because they might , human rights appeal, because they might, you something they might, you know, something might their home might go wrong in their home country if they go back there. well, i'm you should have well, i'm sorry. you should have thought that before you thought about that before you committed thought about that before you con briefly, richard, how >> briefly, richard, how significant law order significant will law and order be the election as issue? >>i issue? >> i think it will be very, very significant. and we're standing on a clear policy, zero tolerance, because the people have sick to the have had absolutely sick to the back it. don't feel back teeth of it. we don't feel as on the streets as we as safe on the streets as we used that's because a used to. and that's because of a failure of this government and a failure of this government and a failure of this government and a failure of leadership for dating stuff. >> richard, thank you very much for us. richard tice gb forjoining us. richard tice gb news and course, the news star and of course, the leader reform uk for leader of reform uk for fascinating stuff. now, listen, those emails are coming in thick and fast. i'll get to them very shortly. at gbnews.com. shortly. mark at gbnews.com. fascinating stuff . lots more to fascinating stuff. lots more to come in the show. very excited about a pre—recorded interview with one of the most outspoken commentators on us politics, the famous conservative broadcaster ben shapps .

famous conservative broadcaster ben shapps. i'll be asking him about wobbly . why joe biden? is about wobbly. why joe biden? is he the man to tackle this growing international crisis? he's been dropping some remarkable truth bombs you won't want to miss what he's got to say . so coming up in my big say. so coming up in my big interview, as i've mentioned, ben shapiro is on his way. but next in the media buzz as fears of an all out war grow and the egyptian president says israel has exceeded the right to self offence, has their retaliation against hamas gone too far? my panel debate that plus later in the hour. kelvin mackenzie live in the studio and he's not happy because the bbc are unwilling to call hamas terrorists even though new footage has emerged of the bbc 6:00 news after 911 and peter sissons is actually saying the word terrorist about al—qaeda and osama bin laden. so why 911 and not the 7th of october, 2023? welcome to the

world of bbc double standards . world of bbc double standards. kelvin will be dealing with that. and let me tell you, he is furious . so a busy hour to come. furious. so a busy hour to come. don't go anywhere. this is gb news tonight. good evening. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. things pretty calm out there at the moment but through this week it's going to turn very wet and very windy with a potential for some significant disruption from this of low pressure that this area of low pressure that this area of low pressure that this morning here at the met office , we storm babette. office, we named storm babette. it's moving northwards, bringing a of moisture. so slow a lot of moisture. so slow moving of heavy rain moving bands of heavy rain likely to cause some problems . likely to cause some problems. we have a number of met office yellow warnings place out yellow warnings in place out there this evening, though. it's there this evening, though. it's the calm before the storm. a fine night actually, with clear skies. it'll turn quite cold across northern across scotland, northern ireland, northern england, a touch of frost possible here in rural spots. further south, a bit more cloud the breeze bit more cloud and the breeze picking up as we go the picking up as we go through the night. going turn quite night. going to turn quite blustery times over southwest blustery at times over southwest england north and west wales dunng england north and west wales during tuesday . so some gusty

during tuesday. so some gusty winds here, quite a lot of cloud spilling up from the south—west. some showery rain possible for devon maybe later on devon cornwall, maybe later on into pembrokeshire. a few showers continuing over the northern maybe 1 or 2 northern isles, maybe 1 or 2 getting into the east coast of england as well as the breeze picks for many it's picks up here. but for many it's a and fine day. we'll be a dry and a fine day. we'll be a bit of a chilly one again, temperatures generally a touch bit of a chilly one again, tempe averagejenerally a touch bit of a chilly one again, tempe average forerally a touch bit of a chilly one again, tempe average for they a touch bit of a chilly one again, tempe average for they a toofh below average for the time of year feeling colder as the year and feeling colder as the winds start to pick up. the winds start to pick up. the winds will strengthen further. however, the rain that however, it's the rain that we're concerned about here we're most concerned about here at the met office. for the rest of this week. a number of warnings are in place. do check out website for the details out our website for the details on all those

>> it is coming up to 10:00. i am mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. am mark dolan and this is gb news tonight . great to have your news tonight. great to have your company now six brits are confirmed dead in the hamas terror attack on israel whilst a further ten are missing. one of

america's biggest conservative commentators, the world renowned venture , pirro joins me for his venture, pirro joins me for his blistering take on the atrocity and whether israel's response has gone far enough. and also whether the us should get involved in the war and wobbly. joe biden . ben shapiro here for joe biden. ben shapiro here for a big interview shortly. meanwhile with fears of all out war growing in egypt's saying israel has far exceeded the right to self defence. tonight's panel gets stuck in to whether israel's reaction then risks going over the top. are innocent civilians a price worth paying to destroy hamas? debating that tonight , we to destroy hamas? debating that tonight, we have carol maloney, benjamin buttennorth, strobing and the wonderful flowery beunda and the wonderful flowery belinda deluise. and where is carol? she's disappearing before our very eyes, a fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie is also on standby with his unmissable analysis of the chaos in the middle east. plus he's not happy with the bbc. i'll also be asking kelvin whether keir starmer should expel labour

members who are found to have terrorist sympathies . kelvin is terrorist sympathies. kelvin is uncancelled later today and lightened the mood. renowned filmmaker richard curtis, he of four weddings and a funeral fame , declares that he'll never make fat jokes again in his work after his ultra politically correct daughter took him to task. so our younger generations too sensitive or are fat jokes offensive? what's wrong with a few gags about the chubby eaters ? my panel debate that shortly . ? my panel debate that shortly. plus, they'll be debating who should be our greatest britain and union jackass. lots to get through, but first, here's the news and polly middlehurst out . news and polly middlehurst out. >> mark, thank you. well, good evening to you. let's bring you a bit more breaking news that we told you about in the last hour about that shooting in brussels. the belgian capital. we can tell you that since we last spoke, brussels increased its brussels has increased its terror threat level to the

highest. tonight right after two people were confirmed dead in a shooting in what the belgian authorities are now confirming, they're treating as a terrorist attack . the victims thought to attack. the victims thought to have been swedish football fans visiting brussels for their team's euro 2024 qualifier against belgium. if you're watching on television, you can see we're showing you live pictures of forensic teams at the scene trying to gather evidence as to exactly what happened a couple of hours ago . happened a couple of hours ago. meanwhile, i can tell you that at the stadium in brussels tonight, football fans have been told to stay inside side the swedish side , refusing to play swedish side, refusing to play the second half of the game once they heard two of their fans had been shot. the game was abandoned. the belgian prime minister, alexander de croo, has confirmed both victims were swedish nationals. offered swedish nationals. he's offered his sincere condolences to the country . local belgian media is country. local belgian media is reporting the gunman is still on the loose, hence the terror alert threat being lifted to the maximum level. we also

understand he's posted a video on social media claiming to be part of isis, saying he had killed three infidels. so that's the scene in brussels in belgium tonight after two swedish nationals were shot dead. and we believe the suspect is still at large . we'll also in the news large. we'll also in the news today, the prime minister led a minute's silence in the house of commons today as he confirmed that at least six british citizens were killed in the hamas attack on israel last weekend , with a further ten weekend, with a further ten people still missing . earlier, people still missing. earlier, rishi had visited a jewish rishi sunak had visited a jewish secondary school in north london, reassuring students his government would always support them. the government also announced this afternoon. it's going to be providing an extra £10 million in humanitarian aid to gaza, saying the palestinian people are the victims of hamas, too. meanwhile diplomatic efforts to find a political solution to the conflict in israel continue with the us secretary of state holding talks with regional leaders to try to

stop the conflict spreading and to get aid into gaza . anthony to get aid into gaza. anthony blinken was in israel once again today as the news came through from doctors in gaza that they were struggling to treat the huge numbers of patients injured in israeli airstrikes. aid agencies saying hospitals are running out of medicine and fuel for generators with only the most serious cases given access to vital treatment . and the to vital treatment. and the united nations weighed in today, warning the humanity situation on the gaza strip was deteriorating by the hour . well, deteriorating by the hour. well, there was hope twice earlier on today that aid could come into gaza through egypt's rafah crossing on the south border with gaza . there was an with gaza. there was an expectation the crossing may open first thing this morning at 9:00 local time. then it was mooted from washington . it would mooted from washington. it would open once again, but didn't open up at all. and it's still closed despite thousands of people massing at the border desperate to get out of the gaza strip .

to get out of the gaza strip. and in more news from israel in the north, terror group hezbollah has fired rockets at israel. the israeli defence force has responded with shelling and helicopter gunships. fire roaring back. and in the south, troops are continuing to gather near ashkelon to prepare for the planned ground assault that's been talked about by the president sorry, the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu. well, the us president joe biden, has said he's confident that israel will be acting according to the rules of war now, but also saying there must be a path to a palestinian state and he warned iran not to get involved today . iran not to get involved today. well, the reaction here in the uk is centred in london, where hundreds of demonstrators gathered outside the bbc's headquarters this evening to protest against the corporation's editorial stance on hamas. the corporation's facing a backlash from the pubuc facing a backlash from the public and jewish groups calling for hamas militants to be called

terrorists . the crowd, supported terrorists. the crowd, supported by the national jewish assembly, chanted bbc shame on you and some placards read if the king calls hamas terrorists, so can you.the calls hamas terrorists, so can you. the bbc issued a statement saying it takes the use of language very seriously. pro—palestinian activists have also criticised the bbc covering its headquarters in red paint on saturday with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> thanks polly . my panel are >> thanks polly. my panel are back, reacting to the big stories of the day. daily express columnist carole malone , express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin buttennorth, and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. and we've got more papers in. let's have a look now at metro and they lead with this. israel, hamas war. let them go

now . prime minister rishi israel, hamas war. let them go now. prime minister rishi sunak has called on hamas to release all the hostages it took in its attack on israel as it emerged two who are teenage british sisters whose mother was killed in a kibbutz massacre . in a kibbutz massacre. absolutely shocking . well, the absolutely shocking. well, the worsening war between israel and hamas is threatening to tear apart the middle east with israeli jets launching a retaliatory bombing campaign against iran backed paramilitary group hezbollah . in lebanon, group hezbollah. in lebanon, promising to destroy the country if hezbollah enters the conflict. this comes as both uk and us officials express concerns that the wider region could be dragged into an all out war, with the egyptian president warning us secretary of state antony blinken that israel's military operation against hamas has exceeded the right of self defence and turned into a collective punishment . today collective punishment. today rishi sunak hit back at labour mp nadia whittome after she blamed israel, not hamas , for blamed israel, not hamas, for the tragic loss of lives in gaza

i >> -- >> the civilians of gaza should not be made to pay the price for the atrocities of hamas blocking children's access to food goes beyond self—defence. >> it's a violation of international law . international law. >> just gently point out to the honourable lady that it's not israel that is deliberately targeting civilian towns in gaza. it's hamas that is enmeshing itself in the civilian population and using people as human shields. and she talks about people moving again. israel is attempting to minimise the impact on civilians by asking people to leave northern gaza. asking people to leave northern gaza . and it's hamas who is gaza. and it's hamas who is telling people to stay. and again, using them as human shields . shields. >> so tonight i'm asking, should israel stop at nothing to destroy hamas? how about this email from barry who says, hi, mark, you can't enter into a partial war. the aggressor will never respect partial . we note never respect partial. we note the aggressors in both world war i and world war ii. carole

malone should israel stop at nothing to defeat hamas ? nothing to defeat hamas? >> yes , i've got i've got to >> yes, i've got i've got to qualify what i'm going to say. yes, i think they should try and smash hamas. i think any sane person would want to see the total destruction of these hamas butchers , but we know that's not butchers, but we know that's not the case. but and we also know that hamas doesn't give a toss about ordinary palestinians . about ordinary palestinians. they don't care the fact that they're being slaughtered as we speak. they knew hamas knew the likely response of what israel would do when they attacked, when they attacked israel the other day. they knew exactly other day. so they knew exactly this happen . all of this was going to happen. all of this was going to happen. all of this said if i was jewish or if i was living in israel now, i would want my government to go, hell for leather at what had happened because they have seen the slaughter, they've seen the babies killed. they've seen the children killed, they've seen the old people shot. they will want their government to avenge what has happened and they don't want it to happen again and they

don't want it to happen again. and i think they think if the world is now mean, i forgot who it was. it said that, you know, that israel had been asked to show restraint they've show restraint now and they've gone you know, just gone way beyond, you know, just keeping peace or whatever. keeping the peace or whatever. >> president. >> egyptian president. >> egyptian president. >> yes. i mean, you know, israel has always asked to show restraint, even though restraint, always, even though it's hamas that have started this. it's not israel have started this particular problem. so i think, you know, if i was an israeli, if i was living there or if i was if i was a jewish person living in this country, i would want to see hamas pay. and i and i would want my government to stop at nothing to do that. my fear is that it will trigger a war that is my big terror that lots of countries and lots of middle eastern countries that are involved in this, that are already threatening iran, are already threatening iran, are already saying already threatening iran, are alr(won't saying already threatening iran, are alr(won't turn saying already threatening iran, are alr(won't turn a saying already threatening iran, are alr(won't turn a blind saying already threatening iran, are alr(won't turn a blind eyeaying already threatening iran, are alr(won't turn a blind eye if ng we won't turn a blind eye if there's any interference that scares the crap out of me. it does well, belinda, to defeat hamas is to kill civilians ,

hamas is to kill civilians, probably hundreds of thousands . probably hundreds of thousands. >> is that acceptable? i actually don't think they will end up doing that. >> i think they have done as much as they can to avoid killing civilians, moving them down south, warning them, having leaflets coming from the air, telling them to leave and evacuate . you know, what more evacuate. you know, what more can they do than that. now, if civilians are still in an area where israel are going to bomb or have a ground offensive in, then hamas need to protect the palestinians . it's actually palestinians. it's actually hamas that are in government. their duty of care is towards the palestinian . the palestinian. >> they're going to pack more people into those areas. >> every single palestinian death blame on death that they can blame on israel is a strategic win for hamas, is why they use hamas, which is why they use them as shields. and it is them as human shields. and it is them as human shields. and it is them quite right of rishi to say that it them quite right of rishi to say thatitis them quite right of rishi to say that it is hamas that is putting palestinians the exit routes. >> are blocking, >> linda, are blocking, blocking, routes. blocking, exit routes. >> know, these horrific >> you know, these horrific islamist terror groups around the world, they've been responsive for killing responsive, bill, for killing nearly of a million of

nearly a quarter of a million of people between 1979 and 2021. and hamas is part of that now. and hamas is part of that now. and if israel takes them out, they're taking them out not just for civilisation , but for the for civilisation, but for the world, because hamas won't stop. if they win, they will try and build their islamist state upon the rubble every western. the rubble of every western. >> hitler didn't stop in poland. >> hitler didn't stop in poland. >> exactly. so thank god. i hope israel destroys them. and i and i'm sure that they will rise above the butchery that you just would never imagine any human to do that. hamas did. >> well, benjamin, hamas have told residents of north gaza to stay put. >> that's how cruel and unscrupulous they are. however there is the civilian factor. i understand one of the key terrorist cells of hamas is located in the basement of a major hospital. of course it is. and the un and the who. have condemned israel's actions so far. are they right? no >> i think the danger is the real danger for israel is that this plays out on our television

screens in a way that people only see the part of the story thatis only see the part of the story that is civilians being killed as a consequence of israeli retaliations . and i think that's retaliations. and i think that's why it's so important that you get the message across that hamas puts its headquarters in schools, in hospitals , as in a schools, in hospitals, as in a university that they do that on purpose because they want to compromise the palestinians as and when people talk about why israel should show restraint , israel should show restraint, well, how many times is this going to happen in israel shows restraint. if you care about palestinian civilian lives, then you will won't let hamas exist in any form , because if you do, in any form, because if you do, this will happen again and again, as it has for the last 75 years. >> hamas to one piece. they don't want a two state solution. they want to destroy israel. and so and they don't care how many palestinians die in the process of that. you know, it's kind of you know, and you're right. when you know, and you're right. when you know, and you're right. when you know, israel has always asked to fight wars , wars by asked to fight wars, wars by rules. other countries would not

stick to you know, a country that had just been attacked in the way israel has is going to come back. and yet and yet the israelis are expected to show that ought to be proportionate. what's proportionate ? what's proportionate? >> when you do that, then what they have done? i find it sickening. it's almost like people want them to just lie down and take it and get battered again and again throughout history, been throughout history, they've been persecuted slaughtered and persecuted and slaughtered and it been removed from it hasn't been removed from people. argument last people. i heard an argument last week in this country which i couldn't believe, and i heard two sets of apologists for the hamas terrorists talking so they heard about babies heard the stories about babies being this person being beheaded and this person was they weren't beheaded. >> were shot like like >> they were just shot like like like that . like that. >> extraordinary. >> extraordinary. >> it's so they're not bothered about the slaughter. they're arguing about the manner of the slaughter beheadings are worse. >> and may i say , with the >> and may i just say, with the way hamas runs gaza, there way that hamas runs gaza, there are innocent civilians being killed all the time. every day that we've been sat here, they have been killing people. and it didn't make the news. it's

notable that it only makes the news when israel is involved. >> there you you have to >> there you go. you have to stand to bullies. was ever stand up to bullies. it was ever thus. up, renowned thus. coming up, renowned filmmaker curtis is, of filmmaker richard curtis is, of course, the director and writer of four weddings and a funeral, declares he'll make of four weddings and a funeral, decjokes he'll make of four weddings and a funeral, decjokes againe'll make of four weddings and a funeral, decjokes again inl make of four weddings and a funeral, decjokes again in his make of four weddings and a funeral, decjokes again in his work|ake fat jokes again in his work after his ultra pc daughter took him to task. so our younger generations too sensitive or are fat jokes offensive or are they funny ? what about this one? how funny? what about this one? how do you get a fat kid to lose weight? you pay the ice cream man driving . is that man to keep on driving. is that outrageous? what do think outrageous? what do we think about chops let me know about chops gags? let me know your mark gbnews.com about chops gags? let me know yourdebate mark gbnews.com about chops gags? let me know yourdebate thatiark gbnews.com about chops gags? let me know yourdebate that at( gbnews.com about chops gags? let me know yourdebate that at 1030. ews.com about chops gags? let me know yourdebate that at 1030. butcom about chops gags? let me know yourdebate that at 1030. but my will debate that at 1030. but my panel are ready. unfortunately, they're all very lean these days. next up, one of america's biggest conservative com mentato rs, biggest conservative commentators, ben shapiro, joins me for his forensic take on hamas atrocities and whether israel's response has gone far enough, as well as whether the us should get involved in the war. is wobbly. joe biden really the right man to have in the white house if it all kicks off the big shapiro interview is

patrick christys on gb news and gb news radio . flees gb news radio. flees three legend kelvin mackenzie. >> coming up with a devastating verdict on the bbc. but time now for my big interview with heavyweight us conservative commentator ben shapiro. ben is currently editor in chief of the hugely popular daily wire website and the presenter of the world renowned ben shapiro show. he's also an orthodox jew who's had plenty to say on the hamas

atrocities in israel. here's what he told me earlier in our westminster studio. pirro how divided is america in response to this terror attack on israel? >> right now, the polls are showing not a lot of division. actually, there's a poll from cnn that came out this morning that showed that well in excess of two thirds of americans are in of israel defending in favour of israel defending itself. number americans itself. the number of americans who israel should who believe that israel should not or not be defending itself or taking action that it's taking the action that it's taking the action that it's taking in the gaza strip is high single digits, low double digits. are digits. perhaps there are divisions younger divisions by age. younger americans be more americans tend to be more pro—palestinian americans tend to be more pro—palestandl americans tend to be more pro—palestand younger , younger americans and younger, younger americans and younger, younger americans also tend to be under the misimpression that hamas was not deliberately targeting civilians at larger rate civilians at a larger rate than older but overall , older americans. but overall, the american people are very squarely the squarely behind israel in the current conflict. squarely behind israel in the curican conflict. squarely behind israel in the curican you lict. squarely behind israel in the curican you conflate support for >> can you conflate support for palestine with support for hamas? >> i think it's possible to separate them. i'm just going to note that a lot of the people who should be separating them are conflating them. so sure , are conflating them. so sure, you say there ought to be

you can say there ought to be a palestinian state that in the best of all possible worlds, that there would be a two state solution. you cannot do is solution. what you cannot do is protest of hamas and protest in favour of hamas and then that then suggest that you are separate the palestinian separate from the palestinian cause while a palestinian cause while flying a palestinian flag. i mean, one of the things that i'm noting is that it's not a lot of palestinian moderate advisors or palestinian so—called moderate supporters who are condemning hamas. there's a rather deafening there's been a rather deafening silence from that quarter. again, it possible logically again, is it possible logically to separate those things? of course. has that separation been effectuated i'm not effectuated in practise? i'm not seeing evidence. the seeing the evidence. why do the left such difficult in left have such difficult in condemning this terror attack on israel , the biggest single israel, the biggest single attack on jewish people since the end of the holocaust? i think fairly simply, the left internationally has been anti—israel since the 1967 war. but more broadly speaking, right now, the left has become a quote unquote coalition of the dispossessed, oriented against traditional institutions. and that holds true in america. it holds true in britain. it holds true in israel as well. and so the idea is that israel is some sort of colonial outpost of

western civilisation and that it has, unquote dispossessed western civilisation and that it haspalestinians ote dispossessed western civilisation and that it haspalestinians ote dispos any ed the palestinians and thus any sort decolonisation effort up sort of decolonisation effort up to and including the slaughter of babies their of innocent babies in their cribs, there is thus cribs, is there is thus justified and that's sort of the justification that you're seeing these days. it's hideous and justification that you're seeing the:ugly.(s. it's hideous and justification that you're seeing the:ugly. but:'s hideous and justification that you're seeing the:ugly. but unfortunately,| it's ugly. but unfortunately, that what seeing. that is what you're seeing. >> how far do you think america will israel their will support israel in their objective hamas? objective of eliminating hamas? >> yeah, i would hope all the way in the world's interest and in america's interest for israel to eliminate hamas. and i frankly think israel frankly don't think that israel has much of a choice but to do so after 1300 jews were murdered and the way, lot a and others, by the way, a lot a lot of israeli arabs, druze, a lot of israeli arabs, druze, a lot of israeli arabs, druze, a lot of people were murdered and 200 hostages were taken. no country salt would country worth its salt would allow entity responsible for allow the entity responsible for that continue operating , let that to continue operating, let alone to remain in control of a swath land like the gaza swath of land like the gaza strip. i think america is likely to rearm and resupply israel. and and and i think america and virtually every other party, including an including israel, has an interest the conflict being interest in the conflict being contained to just between israel and , as opposed a and hamas, as opposed to a northern front opening from

hezbollah or iran entering , and hezbollah or iran entering, and it's into a regional or it's turning into a regional or possibly worldwide conflagration. indeed. now anti—semitism, >> indeed. now anti—semitism, sadly, ben, is a given in the middle east. but do you think we've seen more of than we we've seen more of it than we might expected in the west might have expected in the west in the last seven days? in london, for example, we've had pro—palestinian marches in which some awfully anti semitic language has been used . language has been used. >> yeah, i'm certainly shocked by the extent to which that that sort of reaction has been prevalent and you start to see mass protests in favour of hamas, not not against israel in favour of hamas very early on. we're talking by like october 8th, october and lot of 8th, october ninth, and a lot of these a lot of these public these in a lot of these public centres and american universities jump to the universities and the jump to the conclusion blood of conclusion that the blood of israeli babies is somehow on on jewish . simultaneously jewish hands. simultaneously you've a mass propaganda you've seen a mass propaganda effort blame the hamas to effort to blame the hamas to blame civilian casualties in the gaza strip, not on hamas, which is actually attempting to shield its own terrorists with civilians . i its own terrorists with civilians. i mean, its own terrorists with civilians . i mean, they civilians. i mean, they literally built tunnel networks under this under civilian areas to this purpose. to blame that on purpose. but to blame that on

israel well, i'm i'm i'm israel as well, i'm i'm i'm bewildered by it. i'm shocked by it. don't know a jew who isn't it. i don't know a jew who isn't certainly or an israel supporter who isn't. i mean, this is the clearest case of an immoral clearest cut case of an immoral massacre in recent human rights history. and yet there seems to be a fairly solid base of support for the proposition that kids murdered in their own beds, women raped and kidnapped, that all of that is acceptable so long it's directed against jews. >> indeed, perhaps not surprising college students surprising that college students in have been called out in america have been called out for supporting hamas or for either supporting hamas or being very proactively supportive of palestine after this awful attack on jewish people . people. >> that's right. i mean, listen, the everyone has a right to speak freely in the united states and to take whatever awful position they want to take in the united states. also, no business has duty to hire business has a duty to hire anybody supports terrorist anybody who supports a terrorist group. yeah and think that's it. >> listen, can hamas be eliminated? and long might eliminated? and how long might it take? >> it's unclear to what extent hamas unquote, be hamas can quote unquote, be eliminated the leadership eliminated if by the leadership of we're talking hamas, of hamas. we're talking hamas, then leadership of

then sure, the leadership of hamas be and will hamas can be and will be eliminated by israel . as far eliminated by by israel. as far as the forces that led to the rise of hamas and to the continued control of hamas, that's going to be a broader proposition because a lot of hamas is ideas, a lot of it's genocidal concepts have been embedded in palestinian education, not just in the gaza strip, but also in judea and samaria, the west bank. they've been embedded there for decades. at point. palestinian at this point. the palestinian authority didn't launch this attack, palestinian attack, but the palestinian authority does funds that authority does have funds that are the families of are provided to the families of terrorists, islamic jihad, which is governing in is the other governing power in the bank, is an actual the west bank, is an actual terrorist group along the lines of hamas. this is an of hamas. so, again, this is an intractable not intractable problem that's not going one going to be solved with one military intervention hamas military intervention when hamas can be deposed. the question is to comes after the gaza to what comes after in the gaza strip going very strip is going to be a very difficult answer for difficult one to answer for israel and for the rest of the world. >> is president joe biden equipped to handle this crisis? >> mean, think that, >> i mean, i think that, frankly, joe biden is not equipped handle much equipped to handle pretty much anything at this point. his response? has been what response? so far has been what it be the sense that it ought to be in the sense that he's put two american aircraft

carriers off coast in the carriers off the coast in the mediterranean an attempt to mediterranean in an attempt to dissuade from dissuade hezbollah from from firing getting firing on israel and getting into the war, opening a second front. providing the front. he's providing the military for israel. front. he's providing the mili'he's for israel. front. he's providing the mili'he's speakingor israel. front. he's providing the mili'he's speaking some el. front. he's providing the mili'he's speaking some nice and he's speaking some nice words. would nice words. it would have been nice if he had not funded hamas, originally funded iran to the tune dollars and tune of billions of dollars and also, the way, yes, funded also, by the way, yes, funded hamas palestinian in the hamas via palestinian aid in the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of his dollars over the course of his administration in that sort of weakness tends to lead to aggression in the middle east, not feud and conciliation. >> but least, ben, is >> last but not least, ben, is this an existential this moment an existential moment state of israel? moment for the state of israel? >> certainly, it is absolutely an the an existential moment for the state and literally state of israel. and literally everyone israel, right everyone in israel, right to left understands is left understands that, which is why so unified in why everyone is so unified in the state of israel. they understand that if hamas understand that even if hamas does not the unilateral does not have the unilateral capacity destroy israel, capacity to destroy israel, they understand israel understand that if israel does not then the not destroy hamas, then the threats israel on the threats to israel on the northern border from a significantly powerful significantly more powerful hezbollah grow that hezbollah will only grow that the threats in the bank the threats in the west bank from palestinian authority, from the palestinian authority, islamic will islamic jihad, that those will only from only grow the threats from iran via and are only via syria and lebanon are only going to grow in the middle

east. strength is pretty much the matters. and the only thing that matters. and the only thing that matters. and the that israel is an the impression that israel is an impregnable has been impregnable fortress has been obviously pierced. israel has to re—establish impression re—establish that impression in very, order. they re—establish that impression in very, to order. they re—establish that impression in very, to maintain rder. they re—establish that impression in very, to maintain a er. they re—establish that impression in very, to maintain a durable>y wish to maintain a durable presence the middle east. presence in the middle east. >> ben, a privilege to have you on the show. we will obviously give viewers of how give our viewers details of how to program to watch your brilliant program on wire. and thank you on the daily wire. and thank you for your time. on the daily wire. and thank you for thanksne. on the daily wire. and thank you for thanks so much. really >> thanks so much. really appreciate it. >> and me that right now. >> and let me do that right now. you ben shapiro on the you can catch ben shapiro on the ben shapiro show monday to friday wire .com. friday at the daily wire .com. simple as that. now, coming up in uncancelled, ask whether in uncancelled, i'll ask whether the left should hang their heads in shame supporting death in shame for supporting death cult . and if keir starmer cult hamas. and if keir starmer should labour members who should expel labour members who are have terrorist are found to have terrorist sympathies. let me tell you, there's already a labour mutiny happening on the backbenches. i'll get reaction from fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie. plus he's got some harsh words about the bbc. but next in the media, buzz renowned filmmaker from four weddings and a funeral. richard curtis declares that he will never make fat jokes again in his work after

his woke daughter took him to task. his woke daughter took him to task . so our younger task. so our younger generations, too sensitive are fat jokes offensive or are they just a bit of a laugh? my panel will

radio. >> welcome back to the show . the >> welcome back to the show. the front pages are in. let's have a look at what we've got courtesy of bobby. let's have a look. the i newspaper israel prepares to fight hamas in gaza tunnels. israeli troops brace for underground war in 300 miles of a tunnel. network delay before ground invasion. whilst global diplomats try to help palestinian civilians to escape via the border crossing . and so via the border crossing. and so the israel security services can gather intelligence on hamas targets . how about the daily targets. how about the daily mail now violent prisoners to be let out early. hundreds of offenders to have sentences cut by 18 days under a tory government say the mail . also,

government say the mail. also, teenage british sisters are now feared to be gaza hostages . gaza feared to be gaza hostages. gaza humanitarian crisis grows as us bid to ease blockade falters and poland's ruling populist party heading for defeat . the poland's ruling populist party heading for defeat. the daily telegraph now british girls missing after hamas terror attack sunak stealth raid equivalent to a6p income tax rise, say the institute for fiscal studies and suspected terrorist opens fire in brussels, killing football fans . brussels, killing football fans. those are your front pages. a couple of emails to catch up on. mark gbviews@gbnews.com on crime. you've heard that headune crime. you've heard that headline there. tories to let some criminals out early . this some criminals out early. this from david mark. the simplest form of punishment for low level crime is the birch. no need for prison. six of the birch. and i can assure you you will not do it again. well, talking about crime, should it be against the law to misgender someone ? so law to misgender someone? so let's imagine you've got a

biological male that identifies as female. if you say he should, you go to jail. should you go to pnson? you go to jail. should you go to prison? well, that's being hinted at or suggested in a debate party, debate from the labour party, who, honest, will who, let's be honest, will probably next election. probably win the next election. maggie mark, if a man maggie says, mark, if a man wanted a call . oh, excuse me. if wanted a call. oh, excuse me. if a wanted me to call him a man wanted me to call him wendy, would but i'll wendy, i would comply. but i'll not around with my not mess around with my language. his name is his choice, language choice, but the english language is i won't take part in is mine and i won't take part in a lie. if a man has had a lie. even if a man has had cosmetic surgery to his genitals, a man. pat genitals, he's still a man. pat says. hi, mark. i will call a man a man. and if he she is offended and i get arrested, then i will identify as a dog . then i will identify as a dog. so how does two years in prison work for me as a dog? well, pat, i can only imagine it would be rough . more of your emails rough. more of your emails coming. margaret gbnews.com. but reacting to the big stories of the day daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster, the very glamorous benjamin buttennorth and the marvellous double threat brains and beauty former brexit party

mep, political commentator beunda mep, political commentator belinda deluise. now from martin mccutcheon's character in love. actually being labelled the chubby girl with tree trunk legs to brigitte jones having a bottom the size of brazil. legendary filmmaker richard curtis is no stranger to a fat joke, but he's called time on weight jibes after he was called out by his own daughter, the feminist writer scarlett curtis, in an interview at the cheltenham literature festival , cheltenham literature festival, he said, i was behind the curve and those jokes aren't funny any longer. i wasn't malicious , but longer. i wasn't malicious, but i was unobservant and not as clever as i should have been. but carol, first of all, is he going to hand back all the millions of pounds that he's made from those films? >> no, of course he isn't. and his daughter, who has benefited from the many millions pounds from the many millions of pounds that her father's made, she's not hand it back not going to hand it back either. really gets on my either. this really gets on my nerves. this is utter tosh, because girl, scarlett, because this girl, scarlett, clearly doesn't her dad's clearly doesn't get her dad's genius the genius of richard genius and the genius of richard curtis was he could portray he'd

have a character like martine mccutcheon , who was a bit mccutcheon, who was a bit chubby, who did have tree trunk legs and all that. but the whole positive message of that was that the hot prime minister fell in love with and married in love with her and married her. so what? we don't know if her. so what? we don't know if he know he's he married, but we know he's going to. and thing about going to. and the thing about love love. love actually was not love. actually, about what actually, the thing about what do call a bridget jones here do you call a bridget jones here was girl who was a little was is a girl who was a little bit chunky, a little bit ovenneight, she was a little ovenneight, and she was a little bit chunky, but she resonated. her resonated with her character resonated with millions of women around the world to make it one of the most successful movies of all time. so for his daughter to sit there, scarlett, who was never made movie her life, and if made a movie in her life, and if richard curtis takes notice of her, he's never to going make another successful movie in his life. lesson from disney. life. now, lesson from disney. disney went woke last year . disney went woke last year. they've lost nearly £1 billion this year with all the woke movies they make. so curtis , if movies they make. so curtis, if he wants to take notice of his daughter, his are going daughter, his millions are going to dissipate. he says to start to dissipate. he says he's made another movie, which

is a bit hokey, and is which is a bit hokey, and he's pleased it. but he's very pleased with it. but let's if the viewing public let's see if the viewing public are pleased it. are pleased with it. >> what do you think? well, his jokes and his movies are a bit harsh chubster harsh on the chubster is benjamin. harsh on the chubster is berthere's way you would use >> there's no way you would use language like that a film language like that in a film today. and for better. today. and for the better. we are. you were to look at are. if you were to look at magazines 15 years ago, ten years ago, and lots of years ago, even, and lots of tabloids, kind of way they tabloids, the kind of way they talked in the talked about people in the pubuc talked about people in the public eye, they would find women photograph them women and photograph them and they bits of they would circle little bits of cellulite splash it cellulite and they'd splash it across pages. exactly saying across the pages. exactly saying how a bit of accountability. >> no , they were disgusting. >> no, they were disgusting. >> no, they were disgusting. >> they did absolutely. >> they did absolutely. >> didn't. >> no, they didn't. >> no, they didn't. >> did. no, they >> no, they did. no, they didn't. did they say, carol, what. they they never what. they didn't. they never called them disgusting. but. but they nice they. >> e can't they. >> can't not talk about >> you you can't not talk about fat at a time when 1 in 2 people in this country to be fair, joke about it. >> to be fair, i first came across carole malone when she did clubs. across carole malone when she did yes, clubs. across carole malone when she did yes, exactly. clubs. across carole malone when she did yes, exactly. you)s. across carole malone when she did yes, exactly. you know, it >> yes, exactly. you know, it was actually called celebrity fit which shows his fit club, which just shows his prejudice, it not? i think prejudice, does it not? i think it was known as fat club. >> the the that's

>> the thing the thing that's really is these really bad for women is these neo precious entire neo liberal, precious entire titled feminists doing titled feminists who are doing more women than good, more harm to women than good, portraying these fragile portraying us as these fragile little pathetic flowers that couldn't simply take a joke. i don't care about women jokes and blonde jokes in movies. sometimes they're funny . sometimes they're quite funny. and what the uk needs more than ever on our screens right now. bnng ever on our screens right now. bring back little britain, bring back python, back back monty python, bring back the they were the inbetweeners. they were great shows people had great shows because people had a sense humour. benjamin. sense of humour. benjamin. >> benjamin what's with >> benjamin what's wrong with saying has got saying that a character has got an of brazil? what's an the size of brazil? what's wrong with that? >> bigotry isn't funny, mark. it's the bigotry in your mind. you for someone you know, for someone bigotry, it's truth . but it's probably the truth. but someone like belinda, who self—identifies feminist to self—identifies as a feminist to then endorse attacking women on then endorse attacking women on the they look, truth is the way they look, the truth is that, know, when you talk that, you know, when you talk about characters love about these characters in love actually bridget jones, it's actually and bridget jones, it's no coincidence that always no coincidence that it's always pretty the women pretty much always the women whose image, whose size is constantly torn apart as a joke. why is it that you don't have the same number of jokes about men? >> we do exactly have that. we

have big guys with big bellies, with vests . we take the mick out with vests. we take the mick out of them, built around jokes about they? minute about men. are they? the minute you censoring comedy, it's you start censoring comedy, it's not funny anymore. richard curtis says his jokes aren't funny yes, they are. funny now. yes, they are. they're still funny. i still watch those i still watch those movies and i still laugh. but i think modern audiences won't tolerate this because we have a generation of young people in generation young people in my generation who don't expect to have things like image torn apart when like their image torn apart when they're paying to see a film. like their image torn apart when the�*i re paying to see a film. like their image torn apart when the�*i thinking to see a film. like their image torn apart when the�*i think ifg to see a film. like their image torn apart when the�*i think if you see a film. like their image torn apart when the�*i think if you onlya film. like their image torn apart when the�*i think if you only joke,|. like their image torn apart when the�*i think if you only joke, you >> i think if you only joke, you can come up with is how big someone's thighs are, then you're a very good writer. you're not a very good writer. >> benjamin are talking >> benjamin you are talking a load plus size crap. yes, load of plus size crap. yes, that's exactly. >> don't watch any >> and i don't want to watch any movie you want to watch. movie that you want to watch. it'll be bbc approved lecturing bill i got it out bill von buckets. i got it out in the end. >> this show is all about opinions. what's yours? market gbnews.com. coming j.k. gb news.com. coming up, j.k. rowling, england gbnews.com. coming up, j.k. rowling, england rugby team rowling, the england rugby team and peter bone rowling, the england rugby team andup peter bone rowling, the england rugby team andup for peter bone rowling, the england rugby team andup for awards peter bone rowling, the england rugby team andup for awards in peter bone rowling, the england rugby team andup for awards in tonight'snne are up for awards in tonight's greatest britain in union. jack find out why shortly. and should the heads in the left hang their heads in shame supporting death shame for supporting death cult hamas starmer hamas and should keir starmer expel labour members who are not

on message with his position on israel fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie is in the building. and let me tell you, he's not happy with the bbc. find

in two. it's time now for uncanceled and pro—palestine demonstrations across the country turned ugly this weekend with police in london making a number of arrests as activists launched bottles , flares and placards in bottles, flares and placards in trafalgar square . meanwhile, in trafalgar square. meanwhile, in glasgow, a woman wearing a palestinian flag was filmed making a sickening anti semitic barb whilst on a protest protest march. take a listen . palisades . march. take a listen. palisades. don't forget where you went in 1840 . 1840. >> if you didn't hear those words, she said , don't forget words, she said, don't forget where you were in 1940. >> ha! well come to the be kind

crowd. welcome to modern britain. now, those scenes have prompted the labour party to issue a issue. a strong warning to mps not to attend protests while supporters have been urged to exercise caution and not to take labour party banners to any demonstrations. but critics are now accusing labour of shutting down any solidarity with palestinian , and rumours palestinian, and rumours circulate that backbench mps do not want to follow starmer's lead in coming out against hamas, with a number of them after his statement today making comments about israel's behaviour which directly contradict starmer's message . so contradict starmer's message. so to discuss this, i'm delighted to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome the wolf of fleet street kelvin mackenzie, kelvin, the left are not united in regards to this terror attack on israel and in particular keir starmer's parliamentary party. he spoke, i thought very well, very clearly today condemning hamas, condemning an attack on israel, israel's right to defend herself. but richard burgon back bench mp straight up challenging that and effectively caused calling israel a country guilty

of war crimes. >> well, the reality is all my life the left of the labour party have been hostile a to israel . i party have been hostile a to israel. i mean, party have been hostile a to israel . i mean, they would like israel. i mean, they would like a one state solution , i.e. a one state solution, i.e. palestine, right ? and they also palestine, right? and they also why should we be surprised that the left of the labor party don't embrace hamas in some form or another ? after all, look at or another? after all, look at corbyn, right? so he had the opportunity to stand up as a former leader of the labour party at those weekend demonstrations and be quite clear, i am massively against what has happened. he never said that. he just said there shouldn't be war and there are going to be issues on both sides and so i'm afraid that the left will always side , because one of will always side, because one of the reasons is the success of the reasons is the success of the jewish state. i mean, i don't know whether you've been there. it is astonishing. you go you go there. it is fantastic. the other incredible aspect to it, although the arab population

within israel have exactly the same opportunity as the jewish population, look at the way that the two areas have gone on. the jewish fantastic blocks of fabulous places never shared in in tel aviv beyond fantastic . in tel aviv beyond fantastic. and then you look at the arab side , right? honestly, massively side, right? honestly, massively run down. you know, honestly , run down. you know, honestly, these are two separate people . these are two separate people. and people have got to understand that. and i'm afraid , understand that. and i'm afraid, ed, that this war i don't know how it's going to end. but what i do guarantee is that no palestinian wants as a jew in the whole of israel , they want the whole of israel, they want to push them out. these wars will continue forever . they have will continue forever. they have had every opportunity actually, to have a two state solution, and they've never taken it. we are supporting israel probably for the next thousand years and it's really good to hear not just the prime minister but

starmer back that up. >> but you do have these mps behind starmer who are diluting his message, effectively contradicting him. you've got nadia whittome , you've got nadia whittome, you've got richard burgon and others . and richard burgon and others. and does this demonstrate how ungovernable the labour parliamentary party will be? should starmer get in, especially if he's got a narrow majority? m ajority? >> majority? >> all right. well, first of all, i'm fortunately, i don't think he's going to end up with a narrow majority. but the reality is that if this were starmer and he was prime minister right now, there would be a different note on the trumpet. and i'm afraid we have got to get used to that. the left of the labour party seem to hate jews and i think they hate them because they are successful and they have withstood some of the vilest things to happen to any group of people of all they've been being chased for 2500 years, chased from this country, chased from morocco , country, chased from morocco, chased from germany. they've chased from germany. they've chased all over the place. finally they get a homeland and then the palestinians turn

around and say, we don't care what their decision was. in 47, we are going to blast you out of there. so hamas actually are doing the job of the people, the people are all saying, oh, it's nothing to do with us. hamas, they want that land. they want they want that land. they want the jews out. this is never going to end , i'm afraid. i going to end, i'm afraid. i don't care how this war ends. it's not the last war. it's shocking. >> of course , it's been pointed >> of course, it's been pointed out in the commons today that there's a difference between the palestinian people and hamas and of course, really well, there is really they've stood there. >> the hamas have gained power over the years. well they have gained power. they got rid of elections once they were in. they did indeed get rid exactly a sort of, you know, paradise of thatis a sort of, you know, paradise of that is true. but i haven't seen the people rise up and throw them back out again. have you ? them back out again. have you? why hasn't that happened ? why why hasn't that happened? why have hezbollah not been thrown out of the lebanon? there's very good answers to this. actually. the people are all saying, oh, isn't it terrible ? isn't it isn't it terrible? isn't it terrible? come on, throw them

out. throw them out. that's the reality. i'm afraid that is reality. and i'm afraid that is the and is what the reality. and that is what the reality. and that is what the israeli government know. they if they don't try they know that if they don't try and with this once and for and deal with this once and for all, and work by the all, and it won't work by the way. we try and way. but if we don't try and deal this once and for all, deal with this once and for all, then i'm afraid we face this even worse. coming at us within years. >> indeed. look it's all about opinions. are of opinions. there are plenty of people out there who think that israel case to answer israel do have a case to answer for their treatment of the palestinian people, too. but can i you about the bbc? i talk to you about the bbc? because a video emerging because a video is emerging today. viral. it's today. it's gone viral. it's peter sissons the news peter sissons on the 6:00 news when they to have proper when they used to have proper newsreaders. great journalist calling the 9/11 attacks an act of terror , calling al—qaeda of terror, calling al—qaeda terrorists . why can't the bbc terrorists. why can't the bbc call hamas terrorists ? call hamas terrorists? >> yes, it's very difficult. i've just been seeing just before i came out, came on air right now, the killing of those two swedish guys tonight. absolutely. absolutely shocking bbc headline describing it as a terror attack . right. well, terror attack. right. well, i tell you what, they haven't not

whoever wrote that headline didn't get the email, did they? the truth about the matter is, they should just do the right thing. they are terrorists. and actually the rest of the middle east, with the exception of iran, views them as terrorists. they don't want hamas in their backyard any more than the israelis do. >> the bbc brought >> have the bbc brought themselves disrepute with themselves into disrepute with this ? you know, the this position? you know, the standing of the public, the perception of the bbc. i has it been damaging for the brand ? been damaging for the brand? >> i i think there is >> i think i think there is difficulties with with the number of muslim employees that the bbc have with what is said at home for those within within their homes. and then they come in to work and they're supposed to put to one side all the propaganda and all the political debate that they hear at home. i find that almost impossible to believe. do you mean uk journalists? uk journalists, uk , journalists? uk journalists, uk, bbc, 9/11 you can't read that minds. >> i mean, you're saying, you know what they think at home.

>> yes. you're quite right. you can't read their minds. i totally agree with you. it would be hard to believe, wouldn't it, if you lived in a big muslim community and you community in in london and you work bbc that when you work for the bbc that when you came in in the morning, you put aside everything you'd heard at your your your spouse, your home, your your spouse, your home, your your spouse, your children, your school, your youn your children, your school, your your, your your mosque, you know, and then and then said, you know, that you were balanced about it. it's just not possible. >> well, you raise a good point in relation to the international service of the bbc arabic services in which several of their talent, their star turns, have tweeted in sympathy for hamas or at the very least, a palestinian aggression . palestinian aggression. >> and you would have you would have to believe, right, there are 300,000 jews in our country. there are 3.3 million muslims. you watch the labour left. they know where the votes are. it's disgraceful . disgraceful. >> kelvin, i look fonnard to seeing you in a week's time. dropping the truth bombs, as always, a response from the bbc. because we're about balance . because we're all about balance. as say, we always take as the bbc say, we always take

our use of language very seriously. anyone watching or listening will listening to our coverage will hear terrorists used listening to our coverage will hear times terrorists used listening to our coverage will hear times . terrorists used listening to our coverage will hear times . we rorists used listening to our coverage will hear times . we attributeed listening to our coverage will hear times . we attribute it to many times. we attribute it to those are using it. for those who are using it. for example, government. this example, the uk government. this is approach that's been used is an approach that's been used for decades and is in line with that of other broadcasters . that of other broadcasters. kelvin, thank so much. we'll kelvin, thank you so much. we'll see monday. it's time see you next monday. it's time now to reveal today's greatest britain union jackass and to britain and union jackass and to reveal theirs, carole malone, benjamin buttennorth and belinda de lucy . carol, who's your de lucy. carol, who's your greatest? britain >> okay. mine is j.k. rowling , >> okay. mine is j.k. rowling, who today said she's happy to keep taking the hit in terms of talking about trans issues over women's rights. she says she'll always be able to feed her family and voice her opinions. unlike many others who can't. so i'd like to also here give a big shout out to sharon davis, who has for trans issues on the same level as jk as only she has been cancelled. a lot of the con her work contracts were cancelled because of what she said . so. so because of what she said. so. so here's a big shout out to all

these men and women who have taken on the trans activists and actually fought for women's rights. >> well, i agree. it's wonderful to see people with money and a platform actually using it. you've got the brilliant comedian ricky gervais. you've got j.k. comedian ricky gervais. you've gotj.k. rowling and others. they can't be cancelled. and they have been heroic history. carole malone will judge them kindly. it's true. ben jamin history will judge that rather fancy shirt of yours very kindly. who's your greatest briton? >> well , mine briton? >> well, mine is a real great britain, but shahid beheshti, who for those that were watching in the first hour, he is the man that waved the israeli flag and was chased and allegedly seriously threatened in the streets of whitehall for celebrating being israel and the freedom of jews in the israelis. he's a man i've known for about 6 or 7 months, reporting on the terrorism that the iranian state does, and i think he is truly fearless and he and his wife, mattie, are great britons. >> well, that's a great choice. he was a privileged guest for us to have on tonight. belinda,

your greatest britain. >> i love of those so far. >> i love both of those so far. but my greatest britain is the england rugby team who won their quarterfinal , a really quarterfinal yesterday, a really fierce courageous match fierce and courageous match against the amazing fijian . it against the amazing fijian. it was just a brilliant game and i love go england, go england in the world cup. >> i thought it was brilliant. i spent a couple of hours last night just watching videos of the and now i'm going to give it to carole malone tonight. carole jk rowling , will you behave? jk rowling, will you behave? >> oh, i'd like to hand it to ben's . ben's. >> there you are. share it. that's a great shout. >> okay. my jacket. >> okay. my jacket. >> briefly, briefly. briefly now, your. your. your. your union jackass. >> my jackass is yet mr flip flop, mr shifty . flop, mr shifty. >> captain hindsight, sir keir starmer . >> captain hindsight, sir keir starmer. he's done it again. he's had so many policy u—turns, so many abandoned pledges, and he's done it again today. he's actually said that one of the things he promised to do was to aboush things he promised to do was to abolish the house of lords in his first five years in government. and because it was

indefensible now rowed indefensible and now he's rowed back and said he's he's not to going do anything major. he's just tweak it. he's just going to tweak it. he's also to drop for his also had to drop plans for his he radical changes to he promised radical changes to social care. he's dropped them as doesn't know as well because he doesn't know how going to afford them. how he's going to afford them. you can't believe single word you can't believe a single word this man says. >> ouch . well, listen, maybe >> ouch. well, listen, maybe he's straight with he's just being straight with the wants to get the public. he wants to get things done. >> no , he's not being straight. >> he just talks tosh. and then he realises can't be done. he realises it can't be done. >> listen, okay? you're entitled he realises it can't be done. >>your5n, okay? you're entitled he realises it can't be done. >>your view. ay? you're entitled he realises it can't be done. >>your view. he you're entitled he realises it can't be done. >>your view. he was're entitled he realises it can't be done. >>your view. he was goodtitled he realises it can't be done. >>your view. he was good in.ed he realises it can't be done. >>your view. he was good in the to your view. he was good in the commons on israel. so well done. >> was good today. >> was good today. >> but that's not the point. >> but that's not the point. >> fair benjamin, >> okay, fair enough. benjamin, briefly, can. you're a jackass. >> yeah, it's peter bone, the tory that a report in tory mp. that a report in parliament has found him guilty of sexual of bullying and sexual impropriety. been impropriety. and it's been recommended gets a six recommended that he gets a six week suspension from parliament. i bullies people i think bullies and people that behave that behave inappropriately in that way . peter bone way shouldn't be mps. peter bone if got any self respect if you've got any self respect and respect for the public, resign . now, let say that resign. now, let me say that peter bone vigorously denies the allegations . allegations. >> as belinda briefly, if you can, you're jackass.

>> mine is the person who attacked a jewish school last night in london by throwing red paint on the door. so the children would see it the next morning. disgust ing anti—semitism on our streets . i anti—semitism on our streets. i hope the police catch whoever it was . was. >> well, a great nomination for jackass. it's got to be that disgusting idiot that desecrated a jewish property like i said earlier in my big opinion, if jewish people aren't safe in this country, britain is not a proper country at all. i'm back tomorrow at 9:00. thanks for your company. headliners is next. stay lucky and thanks to the team . the team. >> good evening. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news things pretty calm out there at the moment, but through this week it's going to turn very wet and very windy with the potential for some significant disruption from this area low pressure that this area of low pressure that this morning here at the met office , morning here at the met office, we named storm babette. it's moving northwards, bringing a lot moisture slow moving lot of moisture, slow moving bands of heavy rain likely to

cause some problems. we have a number of met office yellow warnings in place out there this evening, though. it's the calm before the storm. a fine night actually, with clear skies. it'll turn quite cold across scotland, northern ireland, northern england, a touch of frost possible rural frost possible here in rural spots further south, a bit more cloud and the breeze picking up as through night. as we go through the night. going to turn quite blustery at times england, times over southwest england, north during north and west wales during tuesday. gusty winds tuesday. so some gusty winds here, quite a lot of cloud spilling up from the southwest. some showery rain possible for devon maybe later on devon cornwall, maybe later on into pembrokeshire . a few into pembrokeshire. a few showers continuing over the northern isles , maybe northern isles, maybe 1 or 2 getting into the east coast of england, well the breeze england, as well as the breeze picks but for it's picks up here. but for many it's a dry and a fine day. we'll be a bit of a chilly one again. temperatures generally a touch below average for the time of year and feeling colder as the winds start to pick up. the winds start to pick up. the winds further. winds will strengthen further. however that we're however it's the rain that we're most concerned about here at the met office for the of this met office for the rest of this week. a number of warnings are

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gb news you with gb news. >> in our top story tonight, brussels has increased its terror threat level to the maximum tonight after two people were shot dead and one person was wounded with a belgian authorities calling it a terrorist attack. victor gyms are thought to have been swedish football fans visiting brussels for their team's euro 2024 qualifier against belgium. meanwhile football fans were told to stay inside belgium's national stadium and the match has been abandoned. the belgian prime minister alexander de croo, confirming both victims were swedish. he's offered his sincere condolences to sweden. belgium prosecutors are saying that the gunman is still on the run. local media are reporting

he has