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united kingdom. i'll get her both professional and personal reaction to the events of the last couple of weeks. we'll discuss the terror level in this country. does it need to be raised? because it has been in france and in belgium and there's good reason, i think, to do it here, too. we'll also discuss rishi sunak going to israel later on this week. and unbelievably , the welsh unbelievably, the welsh parliament has banned gb news from its television sets. yes we have been cancelled by the labour administration in wales. they've decided to pick a fight with us. well, i like a fight. i'll be discussing that too, later on. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst. nigel thank you and good evening to you. >> well, the top story tonight is that officials in gaza are saying at least 500 people have been injured in an israeli airstrike on a hospital. the israeli military is saying it
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doesn't have any details of such an attack . and the united an attack. and the united nafions an attack. and the united nations also says that at least six people have been killed in an airstrike on a school in a refugee camp. it called the attack outrageous and a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians . the un also saying it civilians. the un also saying it believes israel's siege of gaza, as it calls it, and its evacuation order could be in breach of international law . breach of international law. well, multiple aid agencies are warning of a deepening humanity catastrophe in gaza and hundreds of thousands of refugees have gathered near the rafah crossing on the southern egyptian border. but it still remains closed . ed, but it still remains closed. ed, a british teenager who's been missing since last weekend's terror attacks by hamas has been confirmed dead today. 13 year old yahel and her mother, lianne, were both killed when gunmen attacked their kibbutz last weekend. her sister, noya and their father, eli, are both still missing here. the prime minister has called for the immediate release of hostages taken by hamas . it's thought
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taken by hamas. it's thought another nine britons are among 200 people still being held and away from israel. the return of islamist terrorism poses a threat to all european nations , threat to all european nations, according to the french president, emmanuel macron, who is speaking today . president, emmanuel macron, who is speaking today. his comments come a day after two swedish football fans were shot dead in a terrorist attack in brussels before belgium's euro 2024 qualifier against sweden last night. belgium police say the suspect who identified himself onune suspect who identified himself online immediately aftennards as a member of islamic state , was a member of islamic state, was caught, shot and killed. this morning here, the scottish first minister is pledging £300 million to cut nhs waiting lists in scotland. humza yousaf told the snp conference in aberdeen the snp conference in aberdeen the cash could reduce waiting lists for patients by 100,000 by 2026 deaths. in his first conference speech since taking over from nicola sturgeon as party leader , mr yousaf also
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party leader, mr yousaf also pledged to freeze council tax in scotland next year . separately, scotland next year. separately, the first minister made a comment about the israel conflict, saying that with family in gaza, he's calling on the international community to set up a refugee program for those fleeing from the gaza strip . greater thunberg has been strip. greater thunberg has been arrested in london today after protesting against oil and gas companies. the swedish climate campaigner was taking part in a fossil free london protest at a hotel on park lane , where oil hotel on park lane, where oil executives were meeting yellow . executives were meeting yellow. and in other news, yellow weather warnings for wind and rain will be in place from tomorrow with the arrival of storm babette. it's the second named storm of the season and it's due to last until saturday. the met office warning of potential flooding power and power cuts and travel disruption . and that weather warning covering much of scotland, the eastern part of northern ireland, as well as the north and the east of england . you're and the east of england. you're with gb news across the uk on tv
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in your car , on digital radio in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> well , it was the end of last >> well, it was the end of last week when we saw the first terror attack in europe that we'd seen since events in the middle east. schoolteacher in the northern french town of arras was stabbed and subsequently died. two other members of staff were seriously injured. and then, of course, in brussels last night, somebody with a high velocity rifle killed two swedish football fans wearing swedish shirts and injured a third. that person has now been taken out by the security services. and it was a jihadi and even the bbc. goodness gracious me, even the bbc have described that as a terror attack. all of which makes what happened in
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hartlepool on sunday morning all the more mysterious because a man has now been charged with murder over an attack in hartlepool and he was a 44 year old asylum seeker . he was living old asylum seeker. he was living in a house. there were four men living in a privately rented house, asylum seekers that we understand had crossed the engush understand had crossed the english channel. there was an incident inside the house and then ahmed ayed went outside, stabbed somebody. a 70 year old man who subsequently died. but the mystery to me was the absolute news blackout. the news blackout of this attack back. and okay, he may now have been charged by the police and we have a statement that's come from detective chief superintendent dunkley , head of superintendent dunkley, head of counter—terrorism for policing in the north east, who says we're satisfied this was an isolated incident and we're not seeking anyone else in connection with this matter. well the fact that counter—terrorism policing were involved in the first place, i
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think tells you really quite a lot. and yet it wasn't really until the attack in brussels that the british press even started to cover what had gone on in hartlepool. and i have to say, i have the feeling myself of something of a cover up here. we'd rather not discuss this at this difficult and tense time. all of which leads us to where we are in terms of the threat level. now, clearly in france and belgium, the threat level has been raised following those incidents . but at the moment in incidents. but at the moment in england and wales and scotland, we have a substantial risk , but we have a substantial risk, but above that is severe , meaning an above that is severe, meaning an attack is likely or critical, meaning an attack is highly likely . northern ireland is likely. northern ireland is currently on severe, but that's for different reasons , as for different reasons, as i would have thought. it's somewhat ridiculous for us to maintain a threat level of substantial given what is going on in the world, given some of
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the language and some of the behaviour that we saw displayed on saturday on the streets of london and other major british cities , i am very, very cities, i am very, very surprised that the joint terrorism analysis centre have not upgraded the threat level. so i'm asking you, should that threat level be raised? give me your thoughts, please . farage at your thoughts, please. farage at gbnews.com. now i'm joined by anthony glees security and intelligence expert at the university of buckingham. anthony, thank you again for joining me on the program . you joining me on the program. you know, i've mentioned the fact that the police have intervened that the police have intervened that a man has been arrested, but i really was very curious that an asylum seeker attack at this time seemed to be subject to something of a news blackout . to something of a news blackout. >> well, i agree with you, nigel. i think it is curious and
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you mentioned the threat levels . you mentioned the threat levels. i mean, on the whole, in the united kingdom, we tend to raise threat levels after there's been a terrorist attack , not before. a terrorist attack, not before. and why that is the case, i do not know. we're told the threat level is dictated by intelligence. so i think we can assume that there is no specific intelligence , hence that the intelligence, hence that the threat level is heightened at the moment. but that would seem to defy, you know, common sense. and what we're seeing going on in the world. and i would set that against what sir mark rowley said just a few months ago. he said there were tens of thousands of islamist terrorists in the united kingdom. and he added all they're waiting for is added all they're waiting for is a spark. meanwhile in july, the home secretary , suella home secretary, suella braverman, told us that there
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were 800 live investigates in the united kingdom . there had the united kingdom. there had been almost 170 arrests. that's and 39 terror attacks had been foiled in the past six years. now, you add that together and you say all this was before the islamist hamas attack back on people in israel attacked ordinary civilians. they didn't dare take on the israeli defence. they were ordinary civilians, attacked simply because they were jews. now now it seems to me to be common sense to believe that in that situation , when we are in situation, when we are in a high, highly explosive lviv position in the united kingdom with, as said, tens of thousands waiting for a spark , maybe what waiting for a spark, maybe what happened on the saturday before last in israel is that spark and yes, whatever the level is, we should be alert to that danger.
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we don't. >> i mean , look, you know, as >> i mean, look, you know, as far as the hartlepool incident is concerned, you know, it is alleged he's been charged with murder. we'll have to let the courts decide what the truth is. but the clue is that the statement came from counter terrorism , from i mean, clearly , terrorism, from i mean, clearly, thatis terrorism, from i mean, clearly, that is what the police thought the motivation must be. as i say, that's in the hands of the courts. anthony glees if we do get attacks in this country , get attacks in this country, would it be fair to say that the government and our intelligence services and you know , in services and you know, in particular the joint terrorism analysis centre who make these judgements as to what the grading are? i mean, they're going to be accused of being asleep at the wheel, aren't they? >> well, i think they would be if there were to be such an attack and you're saying, nigel, there may have been one. well we don't know, but it's possible . don't know, but it's possible. however, i think what's really important is that when we look
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at what suella braverman, the home secretary, has said, as very often in my personal opinion with her, her thinking is right. but her language is wrong . and yes, there were wrong. and yes, there were people in in london protesting against israel, flying the palestine flag who, like you and me , i'm sure did not want to see me, i'm sure did not want to see innocent people killed by by a government that is really in israel , you know, going to be israel, you know, going to be talking to the israeli ambassador. from our point of view, netta , yahoo! looks view, netta, yahoo! looks unhinged . i'm not surprised. he unhinged. i'm not surprised. he looks unhinged. not the man to lead an attack, however , there lead an attack, however, there will have been people there flying that flag and, you know, attacking that chap who had an israeli flag was rash enough to have an israeli flag and doing that to support hamas. now hamas is a terrorist organisation. again, as you point out , the bbc
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again, as you point out, the bbc is rather anxious about making that clear . but it is a that clear. but it is a terrorist organisation . asian terrorist organisation. asian people supporting hamas are supporting terrorism and we're also seeing on our campuses , as also seeing on our campuses, as i've been able to draw attention to that lecturers and others involved in moulding impressionable young minds, glorify ing the hamas attack cage prisoners. we as they're now called, who are very active on campus, they said it was the inalienable right of hamas to carry out that butchery on saturday. so where you've got this and where you've got impressionable young minds who think that there's a great injustice here, that they've got to right . got injustice here, that they've got to right. got a injustice here, that they've got to right . got a situation of to right. got a situation of radical ization, radicalisation leads to extremism and terrorism , and we need to be on our watch. whether we can do anything about it. are there enough cops , are there enough enough cops, are there enough people in m15 ? are there enough?
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people in m15? are there enough? well, i mean, there is to lock them up is another matter. >> i mean, there is. anthony, you know, an increased police presence already in parts of north london and particularly at wembley tonight , where, of wembley tonight, where, of course, england will be playing football in football well against italy in a qualifying game for the european championships. but i would also point out to you, you mentioned palestinian flags being carried on saturday through the streets of london. there were other much stronger islamist flags being flown as well. there was even a couple, you know, a couple of women who had sellotape to the back of their jackets. you know, images of paragliders . and yet images of paragliders. and yet the police didn't seem to want to intervene. is it your view? anthony glees , that anthony glees, that anti—semitism is genuinely on the rise in our country ? the rise in our country? >> oh i've no doubt about that . >> oh i've no doubt about that. i've been discussing this with lord pickles , who, as you know, lord pickles, who, as you know, is charged with britain's input into holocaust memorial. people
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into holocaust memorial. people in you know, our generation has done more to educate people about the holocaust. i think that's ever been done before. and yet we still see people blaming the jews left, right and centre . and yesterday i was centre. and yesterday i was listening to the prime minister's very stirring speech in parliament where he described that saturday attack as a pogrom against the jews. a well—chosen word by our prime minister and it was a moving . and when i came it was a moving. and when i came out i said to you , a photograph out i said to you, a photograph of you one, there was a lady with a placard right in front of the gates where the prime minister's cars are about to come out with a placard saying israel is a terrorist state. she was all spattered with blood and the cops were looking at her. she was bonkers as she she came at me when i tried to challenge her. she was bonkers . but that her. she was bonkers. but that is reality . you have bonkers is the reality. you have bonkers people. you have mad people and bad people . and sometimes
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bad people. and sometimes they're the same . and sometimes they're the same. and sometimes these people , they turn to these people, they turn to terror. and that is what has got to be stopped in its tracks. and i think the people of this country really do want, say, suella words were were were problematical. but her thinking is right. we do not want that in this country . no, we cannot this country. no, we cannot afford no. and it needs to be challenged. >> no, we don't. anthony glees, thank you again for joining >> no, we don't. anthony glees, thank you again forjoining me thank you again for joining me down the line on the programme . down the line on the programme. and in a moment i'm going to speak to the israeli ambassador and i'm sure she's going to have very little problem with what's been said and what is about to been said and what is about to be done by the prime minister, rishi sunak. but i wonder what she thinks about the bbc, the football and much football association and much else in this country today . else in this country today. tzipi hotovely will join me in just a moment.
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>> i'm joined now live in the studio by tzipi hotovely, the israeli ambassador to the united kingdom. welcome to gb news. good to see you . some very good to see you. some very dramatic news out in the last few minutes that 300 people have been killed in a hospital that was struck by an israeli missile in gaza. in gaza. that's been confirmed just in the last few minutes. i want to get your reaction to that, please. so first of all, every human loss is a tragedy and we definitely in this war and it's a war we don't target civilians. >> so when those type of things happen and again , we need to happen and again, we need to check and investigate because as you know, hamas is still firing rockets in our cities. so there is still a chance that it wasn't idf. but i'm just saying this is a war that hamas started from this horrible massacre that happenedin this horrible massacre that happened in october 7th. i think
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everyone is still shocked in this country, in israel and around the world, from the atrocities were exposed that hamas did . and as we speak, hamas did. and as we speak, there are still 199 israelis, including children and holocaust survivors, grandparents that are kept hostage in hamas hands. and we all need to call together, bnng we all need to call together, bring them back home. so this is the context where this war started by hamas and israel is now fighting to defend its people. so i want to check what happened, but i'm sure and i can guarantee you, we never target civilians. we never target any hamas . hamas. >> hamas certainly did. and there's no question about that. and you're right to use the word atrocities that were used on that day of that. there is absolutely no question that saturday morning was truly, truly . but, you know , truly dreadful. but, you know, we're on the verge. we believe , we're on the verge. we believe, of not just rocket attacks, not just military strikes , but just military strikes, but potentially a very big military move. tens of thousands,
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perhaps, of israeli troops going into gaza with a mission to seek and destroy the terrorist organisation , hamas. but there organisation, hamas. but there will be, as there always are in these situations, civilian casualties. and, you know , this casualties. and, you know, this is now a humanitarian crisis in gaza as well as a military operation, is it not? >> it is . and there is a reason >> it is. and there is a reason to it. and the reason to it is because as much as hamas is dangerous to israelis , it's also dangerous to israelis, it's also dangerous to israelis, it's also dangerous to israelis, it's also dangerous to palestinians . and dangerous to palestinians. and if we want to have a better and a safer middle east, we need to make sure hamas won't be the effective controller of gaza strip. and we've seen what hamas is capable to do. and we have seen no moral values to this barbaric terror organisation. and after we were exposed by its true face, the fact it was documenting those horrific actions, he was documenting him burning alive babies , we've seen burning alive babies, we've seen that. so this is the kind of
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cruelty and evil israelis facing . and now britain was part of international coalition fighting isis. britain was there in iraq and afghanistan . britain was and afghanistan. britain was there to fight the regime. and i think more than any other country in the world, you can understand what terror attacks mean . mean. >> so do you find the calls? >> so do you find the calls? >> no, no. this is why i'm saying this is hard. it's complicated. but we need to remember who are the good people in this situation? the democratic country, who is trying to defend its children versus those barbaric people that are using their people as human shields. >> but you're being to >> but you're being urged to use restraint. you know, the united nations, the international nations, all the international bodies are saying to israel, you must use restraint. bodies are saying to israel, you mu s01se restraint. bodies are saying to israel, you mu so ie restraint. bodies are saying to israel, you mu so i don'traint. bodies are saying to israel, you mu so i don't think there is any >> so i don't think there is any other army in the world that is as restraint as the idf. and i know some people will were know some people will will were saying mean , look, saying seriously. i mean, look, look bad things are in gaza. look how bad things are in gaza. but why things are bad in gaza. there is a reason to it because i think actually this is something many people don't know. and is why i brought
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know. and this is why i brought this me underneath gaza , this with me underneath gaza, there is underground tunnels , there is underground tunnels, city, this underground tunnel city, this underground tunnel city, every single tunnel costs $3 million to build just idf exposed over 30. so it means $90 million from international support were invested by hamas to build this underground city of tunnels that is doing only one thing produce terrorism. this place is the place where it has all the ammunition, all the racket, all the fact that still 6000 rockets being fired on israeli cities and this place is underneath a very populated place. so think how complicated it is. and we are trying to give them the option. now, i understand. have a safe i understand. have a safe i understand that. >> understand. it's very >> i understand. it's very complicated. i'm saying complicated. i'm just saying that is restraint is what's that it is restraint is what's being urged , although many would being urged, although many would argue know i don't know many armies in the world that alert people before come to attack. >> this is against every by every rule of to war have a surprise to your enemy. but we lose that and we tell hamas that
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we're about to attack just in order to keep the civilians safe. now, the money you mentioned is very interesting because us president joe biden is going israel tomorrow and is going to israel tomorrow and he's said some very positive things about your country and about support for israel . about support for israel. >> and yet i wonder how much israelis will be celebrating biden's visit tomorrow because he did more or he did more as vice president of america in freeing up tens of billions of dollars for iran. hey he even freed up very shortly $6 billion more for iran with the hostage fee that was paid just back in august. i mean , is joe biden august. i mean, is joe biden really israel's friend? >> i think, yes. i think he's a man that funds iran. is your friend, a man that stands with us in our hardest moment is our friend. just like prime minister sunak, that i really hope to see him coming to israel. >> well, sunak's to going come on thursday. >> no, i'm trying to say >> no, what i'm trying to say is definitely to see definitely we're happy to see
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this and this international support. and i reason to it i think there is a reason to it because we share the same values, because we all democracies that are fighting for the of our people. for the freedom of our people. and is why we see such and this is why we see such a great international support for israel. >> well, you may be supporting you biden you now, but joe biden has misread . misread iran. >> i think is a good >> i think this is a good argument to take on a different time. this is a serious war that we to win with hamas. and we need to win with hamas. and we need to win with hamas. and we know that hamas is supported by but think israel was by iran. but i think israel was very about tehran's duty very clear about tehran's duty on this. and i think we should concentrate on the fact that our southern border is not safe at the moment and we need to make it safe. >> now, rishi sunak is going to come on thursday, come to israel on thursday, and there we discussed there is no doubt we discussed it before the break. his use of words like pogrom. he has been incredibly supportive. i agree of israel, as indeed has the british government in its entirety. it was no argument about that. even the king and the royal family have said things that you were certainly, as the israeli ambassador would be with. but there be very happy with. but there are other parts of british society you be less
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society that you may be less happy with. there was an israeli demonstration outside outside a jewish demonstration outside the bbc last night. they still won't. oh a gunman in brussels. that's a terrorist act. right. but the murder of 1200 people and hamas are not classed as terrorists . how do you feel terrorists. how do you feel about the bbc? >> so i think if the bbc wants to stick to its values, which is accuracy and telling the truth and there is something really wrong about looking at a terror attack that , you know, nothing attack that, you know, nothing can be more clear than what hamas committed on saturday, october 7th. i mean, all the world has seen, never has seen such a terror attack. you know, filmed and videoed and broadcast almost so i think the bbc should think whether it stands for its values, they say they mustn't take sides. >> oh, well, i think by not calling them terrorists, they definitely take sides. >> you know what? the >> and you know what? not the right because if you want right side because if you want to stand with the democratic values like israel stands for, and when we are fighting a pure
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evil , this is a very clear evil, this is a very clear decision, an easy one to make. and i call the bbc, it's not too late. this war is going to carry on. and we are fighting terrorism nothing be terrorism that nothing can be more this terrorism. more clear than this terrorism. bbc those terrorist in bbc call those terrorist in their name. >> it isn't just the bbc. i mean >> it isn'tjust the bbc. i mean the football association. you know, tonight a know, tonight there's a big football england italy, football game, england v italy, one qualification one that matters. qualification for the european finals and the wembley arch, which we light up for france when was a terrorist attack. and we light up, you know, for lgbtq rights when the world cup is going on in qatar. but they're not going to put the israeli flag up tonight. how do you feel about that? >> so i think i'm disappointed because it's so clear that this is the right thing to do. and i think people personally, my heart was was really happy to see all those blue and white come coloured buildings, white was putting, oh, no, the israeli flags. >> no, the government have been fine. >> yeah. no, what i'm trying to say it means a lot for us. this showing of solidarity in our
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hardest moment. so i think when people in this country show solidarity with israel , they solidarity with israel, they stick to the values that you stand for as a country. democracy and freedom. think about this music festival was was those young people were killed in. we still have people that were kidnapped to gaza . that were kidnapped to gaza. >> there is a change in this country it to me that a country. it seems to me that a change happened in this change has happened in this country. you know, i just mentioned the football association on the bbc. it was interesting. peters , interesting. charlie peters, who's our correspondent in tel aviv throughout the last couple of weeks, said to me that he talked to british people who feel safer in tel aviv than they feel safer in tel aviv than they feel on the streets of london at the i mean, do you feel the moment. i mean, do you feel that this country now has a problem with its jewish population? it's definite something that i hear from my jewish friends about the fact that there is a rise of anti—semitism and we cannot, you know, put it like a dark spot on it. >> this is this is how it is. there is anti—semitism. we need to call it, with its name. and
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the fact that some jewish parents didn't want to send their children to jewish schools , i think shows how much , i think it shows how much people are really intimidated from this type of terrorism. now, i trust 100% the government actions to protect us, including myself . i'm protected actions to protect us, including myself. i'm protected here and i know they do everything to protect every jewish individual i met, home secretary yesterday, and she was very much committed , and she was very much committed, just like the prime minister and i think the issue is how do you deal with the fact that some people are publicly supportive of those atrocities by you know, saying horrible things in the streets, many of them on saturday in the streets of london and indeed in edinburgh and belfast . so london and indeed in edinburgh and belfast. so i'm london and indeed in edinburgh and belfast . so i'm totally london and indeed in edinburgh and belfast. so i'm totally for freedom of speech . and israel freedom of speech. and israel definitely knows how protests look like. and we are definitely for that. but we need also to make a big difference between freedom of speech and hatred and incitement. and i think some of those things are hatred and incitement . and you need to incitement. and you need to think that when we are fighting
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this war, this is also your war. because if those people are against israeli values , they're against israeli values, they're against israeli values, they're against british values. they well , it's against british values. they well, it's ironic. >> it's ironic because if you go back to the russian hamas is against british values. >> this is what i mean. and this is why it was proscribed in this country. >> well, i think our values are being confused, and that's the point making. but if you go point i'm making. but if you go back to russia, germany, austria, i of all the austria, i think of all the countries the world, probably countries in the world, probably the uk has been the friendliest countries in the world, probably the to: has been the friendliest countries in the world, probably the to: has bfpeople. friendliest countries in the world, probably the to: has bfpeople. frien know , out to jewish people. you know, having problems coming in. having real problems coming in. >> say how much >> definitely say how much the jewish the balfour, even jewish even the balfour, even the declaration, you you the balfour declaration, you you have lot. have a lot. >> i won't quite that far. >> i won't go quite that far. >> i won't go quite that far. >> have lot of historic >> you have a lot of historic credit. i think the credit. but also i think the friendship closer friendship never been closer also on a military a defence also on a military and a defence cooperation. can see how cooperation. and we can see how much the uk today stands with israel on all levels. so you can you can see that at a governmental level, sharing intelligence, a governmental level, not level, sharing, sadly not through institutions in through our institutions in quite perhaps the way that it used be. i'm as an used to be. but i'm here as an ambassador .
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used to be. but i'm here as an ambassador. i can tell you that the biggest challenge is actually people that are at the moment a little bit confused and thinking it's just another round. it's not. it's a war. and this war started in the most brutal, barbaric way of attacking innocent people and children in their beds. and i'm telling you something as a mother, because i really care about loss of life. i mean, i don't want anyone to lose his life, but there should be a clear distinction between a country that fights for the freedom of its children and their ability to go, you know, just freely without being afraid that a terror will kidnap them to gaza. and between those horrible people that don't care about their own people, the hamas leaders, the hamas terrorists, the people we are after. so israel made a very clear aim to this. hamas won't exist with political capabilities or with military capabilities. after we finish this war that hamas started. >> well, that is the netanyahu promise. absolutely yes. and finally, yes, i mean, you're
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here as an ambassador, but you're here, as you said, you're a mother. you're a human being. what's personal effect what's been the personal effect on of this? on you of all of this? >> think it's dramatic. >> i think it's dramatic. i think israeli will have is think no israeli will have is life back again after october seventh in way that it's not seventh in a way that it's not about just winning the war. it it's really fighting for our existence and for the fact that every parent will feel that he can protect his children . an and can protect his children. an and those parents my visual is those parents sitting in a shelter calling for help and the fact that so many young people lost their lives trying to help them because there were so many of them, the terrorists, you know, many people tried to understand how that is so how come israel that is so powerful here. the powerful failed here. and the answer had so many heroes answer is, we had so many heroes fighting this fight, but there were so few in front of so many. there were 2000 terrorists walked into our border, walked into the living rooms of individuals and, you know, the protection groups, they were just few of them. and this is why we need our army stronger. the moment to fight this fight
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against hamas capabilities, because we never want to see those type of things again. >> ambassador, thank you for joining us. >> you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> again gb in >> here again on gb news. in a moment, we go live live to moment, we will go live live to tel aviv. we will also discuss the failure of intelligence in israel . how on earth could they israel. how on earth could they not have known something was coming
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radio. >> i'm going to go to tel aviv as quickly as i can to get a hold of charlie peters before he gets evacuated from where he is. charlie, are you there ? charlie, are you there? >> hello? yes, i'm with you. nigel. >> charlie. hi. i hear there's1 or 2 explosions in your vicinity. please give us the daily update. the brief on what has been happening in israel and around its borders . so the around its borders. so the central israel and tel aviv in particular has come under heavy rocket barrage in the last two hours from where we were. >> we could see the iron dome
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air defence system intercepting plenty of those missiles. and as far we tell, there were far as we can tell, there were no impacts. but down no successful impacts. but down in the south and stay wrote a couple away from the couple of miles away from the gaza strip's border, there were four reported successful impacts from hamas rockets . no reported from hamas rockets. no reported injuries because so many people have fled to the north from that location since last saturday's attack on october the 7th. but the real breaking news in the last hour is that the palestinian authorities have reported that a hospital in the gaza city, the baptist hospital, a christian run institution, has been hit reportedly by an israeli airstrike, killing hundreds, some of the footage coming out of gaza right now is catastrophic. people walking around in the most dire state as around in the most dire state as a fire erupts in this significant, obviously , medical significant, obviously, medical facility. we've gone to the idf for comments. and about 15 minutes ago, they said that they are looking into the situation and they would neither confirmed nor denied that the israelis were operating strikes on that
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location at at the time the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, said that three days of mourning has been announced and the palestinian authorities called it a crime of genocide. so very extreme circumstances and accusations being traded at the moment amid what is clearly an extremely appalling situation. we do know that hospitals in the gaza city are used for people to shelter because they are considered one of the few areas where israelis will not strike because they are of course, that is against humanitarian international law of armed conflict. you can't strike medical facilities, but we also know that hamas do use these areas to shelter both personnel and weapons. as late as 2014, there were reports of hamas operatives being very busy, often seen in the hospital corridors in the al—shifa hospital in the same city. but we wait for confirmation or further information about the cause of that strike on the baptist hospital in gaza city tonight, killing hundreds . tonight, killing hundreds. >> charlie peters in tel aviv , >> charlie peters in tel aviv, thank you. and staying in
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israel, i'm joined now by amit asa, former mossad colonel in israel . amit, thank you for israel. amit, thank you for joining us on the program. we have been scratching our heads for the last few days is how is it when the egyptians say they gave very good intelligence to israel that it was ignored, that the saudis have said similar , the saudis have said similar, perhaps not quite as specific, but they sensed something bad was going to happen. and the other breaking news in the last couple of hours is less dramatic, of course, than the hospital in gaza. but it is that the chief of israeli military intelligence , ace, major general intelligence, ace, major general halifa, has has circulated a letter . we acknowledges that his letter. we acknowledges that his corps failed to anticipate that the october the 7th onslaught for which he took full responsibility and he's gone . responsibility and he's gone. let's face it, amit, this really was for a country, for a state that prides itself on
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intelligence . it's just about intelligence. it's just about the most dramatic failure possible . possible. >> yes. unfortunately we are talking about the failure of intelligence and of course, i think that after this event, after this war, the we will have to not just scratch our head as you said, to dig very deep into our measures, into our intelligence as a means to understand what was happening . understand what was happening. yeah. because as i know , our yeah. because as i know, our intelligence will work very deep intelligence will work very deep in a lot a lot of means. meaning we have the eye today , we have we have the eye today, we have the cyber, we have intelligence that works on people. you mean what we say? you mean. and second. and we have everything. you know that israel in all over
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the world, known as the best intelligence . and now we have to intelligence. and now we have to say with the full hand we fail and we have to check. >> that's absolutely right. yeah, that is absolutely right. >> and it's a very frank admission. >> i can give you just my personal opinion because i'm not in the service today . in the service today. >> i know everything just from the news. but it's appeared to be some, um, a as we are saying, uh, some deception , maybe some uh, some deception, maybe some deception that we didn't pay attention to it. and it's started to be clear that hamas was very, very precise with this deception because for example, we know now that they have a net of a of a communication line with the field operatives, and they built parallel, um, safe
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and good encryption net, uh , and good encryption net, uh, parallel to the, the main net that we were listening to because they know that we are listening and they put the disinformation for us. but it's, it's not an excuse , you know, we it's not an excuse, you know, we had to know the other . had to know the other. >> so, you know, things were improving so much over the last few years. the abraham accords, the potential deal with saudi arabia that was so close. but now when it comes to conflict between yourself and hamas, you're surrounded by states , you're surrounded by states, some of whom don't want you to exist at all. does israel have enough friends to win this war? >> look , i think that israel >> look, i think that israel doesn't need friends to win this war. israel is , um, is fighting war. israel is, um, is fighting our life and we need the support
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of everybody. okay? we need the support of the united states, the western world, because this is the war of the western world. but we can defend ourselves and we are strong enough to do this war alone . alone without nobody . war alone. alone without nobody. okay? after it or during the war, of course. what i'm saying, we need the support , but we can we need the support, but we can deal with it without our own. >> okay, well, listen , thank you >> okay, well, listen, thank you for coming on and joining us, and we'll come back to you, if we can, over the course of the next few weeks. thank you very much indeed . sticking with the much indeed. sticking with the military the what? the military theme, the what? the farage moment. you remember military theme, the what? the faragcleggnent. you remember military theme, the what? the faragclegg said you remember military theme, the what? the faragclegg said i you remember military theme, the what? the faragclegg said i was)u remember nick clegg said i was a dangerous fantasist for ever suggesting there could an eu suggesting there could be an eu army. as we speak , 2800 army. well, as we speak, 2800 personnel are involved in an amphibious land mission. you're seeing pictures now of this took place today, took place in spain at and it's under the eu crisis
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manager moment, military exercise as of 2023. there we are, mr clegg, eat your heart out. if that's not an eu army, i don't know what is . and the what don't know what is. and the what the farage moment of the day. yes, we have been cancelled by the speaker of the welsh parliament, the senate and ann jones. do you seriously support a channel that allows a woman to be talked about unchallenged as below to continue to be broadcast in our senate internal system ? and she quotes the words system? and she quotes the words from laurence fox and robert davis responds for the conservatives saying it's pure censorship , a disgraceful censorship, a disgraceful decision . yes. yes. the labour decision. yes. yes. the labour party in wales have banned gb news from their tv sets . do you news from their tv sets. do you know what? i might just pop down know what? i mightjust pop down to cardiff next week and have a little word with them in a moment . we saw that big fire at moment. we saw that big fire at luton revs our electric cars. are they more prone to catching fire and exploding ? let's find
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fire and exploding? let's find out the truth in just a moment.
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now, i'm a natural sceptic . when now, i'm a natural sceptic. when i saw that huge fire at luton, i thought, ah, is it electric vehicles exploding that are causing all these problems ? and causing all these problems? and now we hear that car parks may have to provide more space for cars because of the risk with electric vehicles . well, let's electric vehicles. well, let's try and get to the bottom of this. i'm by stuart this. i'm joined by stuart mason. ed editorial director. the car expert. so stuart, evening, nigel. >> good evening and welcome to the program . the program. >> um, if an electric vehicle crashes with another car at speed or catches fire, is it potentially a lot more explosive than a normal petrol or diesel car? >> two two parts to that. >> two two parts to that. >> firstly, if an if an electric
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car crashes into another car, it's less likely to have an explosion . explosion. >> the batteries are very well protected. so the incidence of fire is less. however if an electric car catches fire, it's a very different sort of fire to a very different sort of fire to a traditional petrol or diesel car where you have fuel burning . car where you have fuel burning. so it needs a different method to put it out. and the electric battery can perpetuate its own fire. so it can be more significant. >> now the stories from luton and you know , eyewitness reports and you know, eyewitness reports of any incident can vary hugely . of any incident can vary hugely. but there was confusion over whether the range rover was a hybrid, had a lithium battery or whether it was that no one's ever going to know. i don't think they will because there's cctv, apparently of the car and the initial information. >> and we're yet to get the full report out. but the initial report out. but the initial report was that it was a particular model, land rover, report was that it was a partitjlar model, land rover, report was that it was a part it was nodel, land rover, report was that it was a partit was a)del, land rover, report was that it was a partit was a diesel. nd rover, report was that it was a partit was a diesel. nd no 'er, and it was a diesel. so no hybnd and it was a diesel. so no hybrid part to it. okay. we'll see once we have the report that comes out. i've heard i've heard
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differing who knows? but the >> i mean, who knows? but the bit we do hear is that bit that we do hear is that there evs that were sort of there were evs that were sort of exploding in very dramatic style. do we believe that? >> not necessarily . and again, >> not necessarily. and again, until we actually drag the cars out of the what's left of the building, when they can do that safely, then really know . safely, then we'll really know. but is difficult but an electric car is difficult to set fire to externally . when to set fire to externally. when an electric car catches fire, it's normally internally from within the battery. it has what's called thermal runaway , what's called thermal runaway, where one little cell within a battery hundreds has battery of hundreds of cells has a fault and it gets hotter and hotter and hotter and catches fire. so they tend to burn from the inside out , setting fire to the inside out, setting fire to one from the outside in is much harder. eventually, once it gets hot enough , anything burns. hot enough, anything burns. >> if there's extreme it hot enough, anything burns. >> happen. extreme it hot enough, anything burns. >> happen. absolutely. it hot enough, anything burns. >> happen. absolutely. andt hot enough, anything burns. >> happen. absolutely. and if can happen. absolutely. and if those go they those batteries go up, are they more dramatic ? more dramatic? >> they can be, absolutely. and it depends on the type of electric battery as well. there it depends on the type of elendifferentery as well. there it depends on the type of elen different types well. there it depends on the type of elendifferent types ofll. there it depends on the type of elendifferent types of electric! are different types of electric battery older of electric battery. older types of electric battery. older types of electric battery to be more prone to battery tend to be more prone to that. some of the newer types coming are much coming to the market are much
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less any kind of fire. less prone to any kind of fire. >> so what you're >> all right. so what you're really saying to us, i think , really saying to us, i think, stuart, is we shouldn't be we shouldn't be unduly alarmed and yet we do hear reports it's of spontaneous combustion . is now spontaneous combustion. is now this may happen to any car in certain circumstances would it be fair to say that there is still a lot of work to be done before we can be absolutely confident that we've got evs ? right. >> there is always work to be done there is more work done and yes, there is more work to done. there is a lot of to be done. there is a lot of new technology coming out in how we fires. so an we fight ev fires. so an electric car fire is very different from petrol car fire different from a petrol car fire with a traditional fire. what you're deny you're trying to do is deny oxygen. you're smothering the fire so it can't burn. an electric car battery generates its generates own its own fire, generates its own oxygen. so what you're trying to do down the battery to do is cool down the battery to stop heat . that's the big stop the heat. that's the big thing. so there new thing. so there are new techniques coming out because if you're flood it with you're trying to flood it with water, that won't work. you take an enormous swimming an enormous amount of swimming pools, bury pools, amount of water, bury the car it could
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car in it, and it could potentially still burn. yeah. so it's different type. so it's a different type. so there's lot of work be done. >> clearly a lot of work to be done. >> and that's what i wanted to get to really with this. now these cars are much heavier. so it was talk old fashioned it was talk that old fashioned car not be suitable. car parks may not be suitable. now need now we're hearing they'll need to space in case to be more parking space in case they fire. and sounds like they catch fire. and sounds like evs are going to have knock on very big costs . very big costs. >> current electric cars are heavier . it can be 20, 30% more. heavier. it can be 20, 30% more. most electric vehicles that are on the road are lighter than big diesel suvs than we see in car parks anyway. frankly, anything that improves in car parks that improves space in car parks is an excellent i'm is an excellent idea, and i'm all favour because trying to all in favour because trying to get way through a car get get your way through a car park at gatwick. >> short term, absolute >> in short term, absolute nightmare. so anything that will help fire crews get to a burning car regardless of whether the car regardless of whether the car is powered by petrol, diesel , dust, , electricity or fairy dust, anything that helps them get to anything that helps them get to a car is absolutely brilliant. >> is it your view that by 2035 we will be buying only brand new evs as opposed to petrol and diesel? yeah, the plan. the plan
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hasn't changed before. rishi sunaks announcement a few weeks ago.the sunaks announcement a few weeks ago. the plan was previously that by 2028 more than half of all new cars will be electric and by 2030, 80% of all new cars will be electric. that hasn't changed. it has changed. >> is it actually going to happen , in your view? is it happen, in your view? is it a realistic target that it's ambitious, but then we should have ambitious this country. >> but what we need is ambitious action to match the ambitious target and what happened was the government target and then government set a target and then said, job done, feet up. said, right, job done, feet up. that'll do. >> someone else. that'll do. >> yeah. omeone else. that'll do. >> yeah. so eone else. that'll do. >> yeah. so it ne else. that'll do. >> yeah. so it canlse. that'll do. >> yeah. so it can be. that'll do. >> yeah. so it can be done. >> yeah. so it can be done. >> culture targets that >> the culture of targets that we took on in tony blair's time where with and isn't where we stuck with and isn't the of the biggest beneficiary of all of going the chinese of this going to be the chinese communist party? of this going to be the chinese conwelnist party? of this going to be the chinese conwe no, party? of this going to be the chinese conwe no, notty? of this going to be the chinese conwe no, not necessarily. i >> we no, not necessarily. i mean, the european car industry, and that includes the uk car industry has been caught napping . the uk and the eu spent many years pursuing diesel . the years pursuing diesel. the chinese didn't because they worked out diesel wasn't to going be the answer. if you remember back to say, the beijing olympics, they were telling people not to drive
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their cars because of the pollution very pollution and they realised very quickly future. quickly electric was the future. they also realised that the west quickly electric was the future. they abe realised that the west quickly electric was the future. they abe veryised that the west quickly electric was the future. they abe very slow .hat the west quickly electric was the future. they abe very slow tot the west quickly electric was the future. they abe very slow to catch vest quickly electric was the future. they abe very slow to catch on.. would be very slow to catch on. >> they're in a very >> i think they're in a very good us on good place compared to us on this. one who will not this. well, one man who will not be an quickly be buying an ev very quickly because he drives a car that does about eight miles to the gallon is sirjacob rees—mogg. >> unfortunately true. >> jacob, what have you got coming? >> we're going to be talking about the economy because there's been the report from the ifs saying that government ifs saying that the government can't it can't can't cut taxes and it can't raise spending . so what can it raise spending. so what can it do? how get growth in the do? how do we get growth in the economy? do back to economy? how do we get back to an that's vibrant an economy that's vibrant because today was memorial because today was the memorial service for lord lawson for nigel lawson. so it seems a really good day to be thinking about how he did it and how we can make this economy really fireand this would appear to be >> and this would appear to be now. liz truss, is mission in life. >> and it's very important because othennise we're just in the business of managing decline. i think decline. and you and i think that politics is not about managing decline , it's about managing decline, it's about ensuring this country is ensuring that this country is able to succeed in the next
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coming decades. quite right . able to succeed in the next coming decades. quite right. and to that, we need an economy to do that, we need an economy that the that grows. and that means the state doing less. why >> his words from the mogg more of that coming up after the weather. >> alex deegan here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the storm system has yet to fully arrive, but once it does, it's going to drop a lot of rain between now and weekend between now and the weekend storm. is brewing down storm. babette is brewing down to the south—west initially throwing rain up across the south during wednesday , but then south during wednesday, but then continuing to track northwards and kind of becoming slow moving on wednesday night northern on wednesday night over northern ireland, england and ireland, northern england and then of eastern then into parts of eastern scotland an amber scotland where we have an amber warning we have warning in place. but we have yellow a good yellow warnings across a good part the uk. keep up to date part of the uk. keep up to date with weather warnings with those weather warnings through website. through the met office website. but tonight and some but back to tonight and some rain across parts of northern ireland may turn a little heavy later in the night, for many later in the night, but for many it'll a dry night. the winds it'll be a dry night. the winds continuing strengthen continuing to strengthen and with lot more cloud, it will with a lot more cloud, it will be milder compared be a much milder night compared to nights across to recent nights across scotland, and scotland, northern england and
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northern ireland. and for many wednesday will still be a dry and a bright day. northern england. england. good england. eastern england. good part staying dry, part of scotland staying dry, but showery rain but there'll be showery rain over midlands, wales and over the midlands, wales and southern england. that's going to go through to pep up as we go through the day. pretty heavy day. could turn pretty heavy dunng day. could turn pretty heavy during wednesday evening across the south strengthening the south with the strengthening gusty wind as well. and gusty wind as well. wet and windy weather also working towards northern so towards northern ireland. so some likely here some heavy bursts likely here through wednesday evening. temperatures the teens, temperatures into the teens, even the high teens in the south. but not feeling very warm with wet and windy weather with a wet and windy weather which through which continues through wednesday then in wednesday night. and then in thursday, wednesday night. and then in tihaltiay, wednesday night. and then in tihalt across eastern scotland . a halt across eastern scotland. hence that amber hence why we have that amber warning in place here. but there'll still heavy showers there'll still be heavy showers elsewhere as well
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away . away. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. is it a catch 22 for britain's economy? any new projects ? actions say we can't projects? actions say we can't cut taxes and we can't increase spending. wages are inflating
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the cost of borrowing, compounding and stealth taxes equivalent to £0.06 in the pound rise income tax . the state is rise in income tax. the state is the largest ever been in. the largest it's ever been in. the is taking more of your the blob is taking more of your money now than ever before. but we the state, cut taxes we can cut the state, cut taxes and unleash britain's latent growth. and as the israel—hamas war escalates with iran's theocratic islamist leader, ayatollah khamenei , issuing ayatollah khamenei, issuing warnings over gaza bombings , us warnings over gaza bombings, us president joe biden has announced a visit to israel to demonstrate the world's superpowers ironclad commitment to israel's security. we'll be discussing the role of the us as tensions heighten in this conflict. the government ordered review of whitehall has proposed radical measures to split up the treasury and abolish the role of cabinet secretary in a bid to boost government efficiency. could this be change the could this be the change the civil needs ? well, i'm civil service needs? well, i'm certainly in it, as certainly interested in it, as i was the minister who commissioned the report. plus was the minister who commwas ned the report. plus was the minister who commwas the the report. plus was the minister who commwas the greatzport. plus was the minister who commwas the great chancellor, today was the great chancellor, nigel lawson's memorial service, his radical economic plans of cutting taxes and ridding our system of socialist policies

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