500 people and they're saying 500 people died. but the us president supports the israeli defence forces, claims it was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by the palestinian islamic jihad group. well president biden also says egypt is going to reopen the rafah border crossing to allow around 20 trucks through carrying humanitarian aid into gaza. and earlier he announced $100 million of new us funding for humanitarian aid for gaza and the west bank. president biden's visit to israel was meant to prevent an escalation of the conflict. but after last night's bombing of a hospital in gaza, those planned meetings for regional leaders had to be cancelled. president biden has now begun his return to the united states , and this evening , united states, and this evening, his majesty the king called for mutual understanding among religious groups. in times of international turmoil and he

said heartbreaking loss of life as the conflict in israel and gaza continues. king charles's comments on religious tolerance . comments on religious tolerance. this came in a state of the nafion this came in a state of the nation address at mansion house. this evening. he highlighted the politeness and respect we should show to one another in the practise of different religions . practise of different religions. now consumer news and milk, cheese and egg prices fell last month , easing pressure at the month, easing pressure at the supermarket. tills but fuel pnces supermarket. tills but fuel prices rose sharply. that comes as the uk's overall inflation remained at 6.7, despite expected nations it might fall again, according to the office for national statistics , oil for national statistics, oil pnces for national statistics, oil prices are higher because of the war in ukraine and now events in israel and palestine have sparked further increases as and there's a red weather warning in place for rain and wind. it's been issued by the met office for parts of scotland. it means very dangerous weather is

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i've got a shower that works. it's really something. >> land baby, you've ruined all my jokes quite selfishly, but still was so it was so still was so good. it was so good so frequent. how's the good and so frequent. how's the baby, leo? yeah she's great. >> having time . >> she's having a great time. she's had all her jabs, though . she's had all her jabs, though. >> really? i thought you were. >> really? i thought you were. >> she had the jabs that, you know, actually do something. >> she had the jabs that, you knookay. ually do something. >> she had the jabs that, you knookay. and' do something. >> she had the jabs that, you knookay. and justsomething. >> she had the jabs that, you knookay. and just for|ething. >> she had the jabs that, you knookay. and just for broadcast >> okay. and just for broadcast regulator i to that regulator, i have to say that that jab regulator, i have to say that thatjab also something thatjab also does something some people think . many people some people think. many people think, , think, yeah, scientists, athletes. all right. athletes. yeah. all right. brilliant in trouble already. so let's have a quick look at today's so for the today's front pages. so for the daily mail, has israeli president blasts atrocious bbc over hamas we're doing that later the times biden backs israeli offensive the financial times biden backs israel over hospital blasts but seeks to broker gaza aid package . the eye broker gaza aid package. the eye has mortgage hope uk's interest rate hike unlikely experts predict the guardian. don't be consumed by rage, biden tells israel to the express. israel's proof it was not to blame for gaza hospital blast . and those

gaza hospital blast. and those were the front pages . so what were the front pages. so what are the express going with leo? so the express aren't their words. >> they've got israel's proof. >> they've got israel's proof. >> it was not to blame for gaza hospital blasts. so they've got footage. >> they've got stills from the footage . footage. >> they're obviously they can't play >> they're obviously they can't play the video on the newspaper. >> that's very difficult to do. but the video footage appears to prove fired from prove that a rocket fired from gaza before gaza malfunctioned before exploding hospital and exploding at a hospital and killing hundreds . so hamas came killing hundreds. so hamas came out last night and blamed israel for the for the strike. and that seems to be taken as gospel by so many people. i mean, why would why would hamas lie? they've never lied in the past. obviously. i've been sarcastic before. ofcom getting hamas lie all the time and yet looking at the photos this morning, there was no impact crater. the impact crater was tiny. it was about the size of size of a saucer and

you know, you'd expect with a with a heavy as israel israeli airstrike you'd have a big crater that you know a man could fully stand up in and hamas store weapons in hospitals and schools and things like that. so there is also the possibility that their arms cache could have been kicked by a been accidentally kicked by a hamas operative, possibly smoking a cigar in a sort of, you know, a cartoonish way. and also , hamas have got big also, hamas have got big rockets. everybody thinks they're still, know, just they're still, you know, just teenagers chucking, chucking rocks. and with these tiny little firework rockets, they've got in their got some big rockets in their arsenal . so, you know, i think arsenal. so, you know, i think it's think possible that it's i think it's possible that it's i think it's possible that it could have been a hamas rocket short. rocket that fell short. >> well informed as >> i'm not as well informed as you about the size of rockets. >> no, i'm not. >> no, i'm not. >> i don't. >> w- >> i don't. >> show me an >> so when you show me an explosion , calling air . explosion, i'm calling air. >> if we got an air, i don't know . no, i don't know. so the know. no, i don't know. so the average person looking at this, you stuff and you see some explosive stuff and you see some explosive stuff and you believe don't you? you believe it, don't you? >> you believe the first thing you're obviously you're told. and obviously the bbc their facts.

bbc did not check their facts. we'll get to that later . so we'll get to that later. so i don't think it's difficult at all that this stuff suddenly spreads. you know, the first thing you hear feels like the truth then you've to truth. and then you've got to undo what people have heard. >> if you're going very >> if you're going to be very generous, yeah, maybe generous, you'd say, yeah, maybe people hamas people didn't realise hamas had those kinds of weapons, so they assumed it was going to be israel. that's most generous israel. that's the most generous reading of they assumed it, reading of why they assumed it, because would because tactically, why would israel do? it's like, oh, we'll just us, just make everyone hate us, you know, this hospital, just make everyone hate us, you know, seems this hospital, just make everyone hate us, you know, seems very this hospital, just make everyone hate us, you know, seems very unlikely,)ital, just make everyone hate us, you know, seems very unlikely, you. which seems very unlikely, you could there's a you know, could say there's a you know, there where have there is cases where hamas have headquarters hospitals headquarters on the hospitals on purpose, but didn't seem to purpose, but this didn't seem to be those. yeah. be one of those. yeah. >> i mean, in fairness, >> and i mean, in fairness, israel down israel has been knocking down civilian apartment blocks all over all gaza . and there over all over gaza. and there has been you know, people have tried claims on tried to debunk these claims on on other sites and tried to say, oh , but look at the sound. it oh, but look at the sound. it makes the you know, the airstrike the same sound makes the you know, the airstri israeli the same sound makes the you know, the airstri israeli airstrike,me sound makes the you know, the airstri israeli airstrike, me an jnd as an israeli airstrike, as an israeli thing jdam israeli jdam. the thing is, jdam is kit that converts is just a wing kit that converts a dumb bomb into a guided smart bomb, fins it so you can bomb, puts fins on it so you can steer so it steer it to its target so it doesn't have a sound. everyone's going different because going to be different because you'll to a different

you'll attach it to a different a different bomb. >> trust looking a bit >> so trust is looking a bit blank because no one knows that except military . except actual military. >> is his hobby . >> and leo, this is his hobby. my point this is this is a worrying of knowledge, to worrying level of knowledge, to be honest. >> to work for a weapons manufacturer. >> all making sense. >> wish it still did. bruce >> i wish it still did. bruce mark the it sounds mark at the moment it sounds like do on the side. mark at the moment it sounds likeall do on the side. mark at the moment it sounds likeall right. n the side. mark at the moment it sounds likeall right. and) side. mark at the moment it sounds likeall right. and we:ie. mark at the moment it sounds likeall right. and we are going >> all right. and we are going to into bbc's response in to go into the bbc's response in in two. but what is the in section two. but what is the telegraph with christina? telegraph going with christina? >> story >> okay, so first story we've got biden, don't repeat got here is biden, don't repeat our after our mistakes. after 911. so biden has been talking to netanyahu and he's giving him advice. he's he's advising the israelis not to be overcome with rage. he's saying and the important thing here is to let the aid in. he's he's been advising israel to let the border between egypt and israel, gaza open , to let aid through. gaza open, to let aid through. but he's making he's making a big thing of saying. but it absolutely cannot be used by hamas. it's got to go to the right places. how do you measure that? yeah, i mean, well, this this is the thing because, i mean, hamas found when they this is the thing because, i

mean, hisrael found when they this is the thing because, i mean, hisrael and found when they this is the thing because, i mean, hisrael and wered when they invaded israel and were committing all the atrocities they were found. >> some of the hamas fighters were killed or apprehended were found to have the un medical kits on them. that had been obviously handed out to gaza to, you know, help wounded palestinians, not for not for militant s not for not for terrorists. >> yeah, but he seems to be making a distinction between he doesn't want go full neo con doesn't want to go full neo con like the day. like cheney back in the day. he's saying he doesn't want to do that. not sure what do that. i'm not sure what he wants instead because wants to do instead because he's been funding iran by been basically funding iran by doing that deal where end doing that deal where they end up freeing up 6 billion, which is to me. up freeing up 6 billion, which is but to me. up freeing up 6 billion, which is but to to me. up freeing up 6 billion, which is but to sort to me. up freeing up 6 billion, which is but to sort ofto me. up freeing up 6 billion, which is but to sort of offset because >> but to sort of offset because we've got we've got to get our oil somewhere. and we oil from somewhere. and if we can't from russia, can't get it from russia, it's got venezuela, got to come from venezuela, iran. many got to come from venezuela, iran. countries many got to come from venezuela, iran. countries get many got to come from venezuela, iran.countries get mfrom nice countries to get oil from apart nonnay and you apart from like nonnay and you know, scotland. if know, and also scotland. if we're drill for oil. we're allowed to drill for oil. >> do you think on separate >> do you think on a separate topic biden makes world >> do you think on a separate topic dangerous makes world >> do you think on a separate topic dangerous because world >> do you think on a separate topic dangerous because he norld >> do you think on a separate topic dangerous because he anrld >> do you think on a separate topic dangerous because he a weak more dangerous because he a weak us president, because he came and people are and met netanyahu? people are sharing he forgot an sharing a video. he forgot an anecdote pretty bad. anecdote which was pretty bad. he goes, oh, this reminds of he goes, oh, this reminds me of back said, anyway, back in. someone said, anyway, it's get into it's too long. i'll get into it later. so it

later. it was so bad it was worse hosting worse than my worst hosting mistake ever. and then he and he also said , but then it came out also said, but then it came out that the hospital was by that the hospital was bombed by the referred to the other team. he referred to hamas team. people hamas as the other team. people were you talking were like, what are you talking about? trump in none of about? so with trump in none of these happened because these things happened because he was as strong. do was perceived as strong. what do you think? >> don't w“ >> yeah, i mean, i don't know if he perceived strong or he was perceived as strong or just reckless, just perceived as reckless, dangerous . you know, nobody dangerous. you know, nobody wants to wants to go to with wants to wants to go to war with somebody actually just somebody who could actually just decide them. decide to destroy them. >> , whatever works, i >> yeah, well, whatever works, i guess. do you want to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon do you want to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon to do you want to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon to this do you want to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon to this otherou want to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon to this other story?|t to >> yeah, well, whatever works, i gueon to this other story? the get on to this other story? the king calls for civility and tolerance. >> so i think what we can >> yeah. so i think what we can conclude . well, king charles conclude. well, king charles urges civility and tolerance. even in the most fractured times. so he's he's called the uk a community of communities, which is , i guess, a new take on which is, i guess, a new take on multiculturalism. i haven't heard that before. what i mean, i know he lives. he's got a big garden, hasn't he? so i guess he doesn't think about it any other way. >> got a big wall around it to keep the communities out. >> so . so yeah, i mean this is >> so. so yeah, i mean this is completely different to the queen, waltzing and

queen, isn't it? waltzing in and giving on giving his personal opinion on what's going on? it's not really the star. so this is new the star. so this is a new modern . yeah. yeah and modern monarchy. yeah. yeah and he's talking about online, on people talking about these things online causes more trouble than it used to . and trouble than it used to. and it's like, wow, yeah, that's that's state the obvious. i mean, i guess maybe charles mean, i guess maybe king charles doesn't i don't doesn't use twitter. i don't know. perhaps doesn't look know. perhaps he doesn't look after his own account. >> very similar to you >> i took it very similar to you as a sort of very diplomatic way of sure about of saying, i'm not sure about this because of saying, i'm not sure about thi although because of saying, i'm not sure about thi although to jecause of saying, i'm not sure about thi although to say use of saying, i'm not sure about thi although to say ine of saying, i'm not sure about thi although to say in a he although he has to say in a diplomatic it's, you diplomatic way that it's, you know, he about know, good, he he talks about the with the deep wells filled with shared which don't shared histories, which we don't necessarily and he necessarily have anymore. and he asked question he asked a key question. he said, have succeeded equal have we succeeded in equal measure schooling ourselves? measure in schooling ourselves? and our communities in the importance of our responsibilities one responsibilities towards one another? obviously we another? well obviously we haven't. that's why seeing haven't. that's why we're seeing horrible the horrible things happening on the streets. very king like streets. it was a very king like diplomatic saying what's diplomatic way of saying what's going here? going on here? >> yeah, really tiptoeing >> yeah, he's really tiptoeing around the speech around it. i prefer the speech given king abdullah jordan given by king abdullah of jordan where he just said, listen, we're not taking any any refugees. it was refreshing to see, you know, a statesman come

out and say that instead of being like, oh, no , send them being like, oh, no, send them all oh, my god, we can take millions. >> yeah, but it is a more as cressida we wouldn't see cressida says, we wouldn't see this queen elizabeth's this from queen elizabeth's second calling this from queen elizabeth's smotable calling this from queen elizabeth's smotable shift calling this from queen elizabeth's smotable shift in calling this from queen elizabeth's smotable shift in approach. 1g this from queen elizabeth's smotable shift in approach. and a notable shift in approach. and thatis a notable shift in approach. and that is true. i mean, she wouldn't really on any wouldn't really comment on any of do you think wouldn't really comment on any of has do you think wouldn't really comment on any of has to do you think wouldn't really comment on any of has to now? do you think wouldn't really comment on any of has to now? do do you think wouldn't really comment on any of has to now? do you you think wouldn't really comment on any of has to now? do you think|ink wouldn't really comment on any of has to now? do you think it's he has to now? do you think it's just so tense that he has to come something? no, come in and say something? no, he's it he's just he's started doing it so what he does. so now it's what he does. >> like i'm sure nobody ever said, well, they said, well, maybe they did. maybe agency that maybe there was a pr agency that said, charles, we've said, hey, king charles, we've got what do you got a new approach. what do you we help plug some we can help you plug some some vegan rolls . vegan sausage rolls. >> all right. better move on >> all right. we better move on because so because i'm getting behind. so what's because i'm getting behind. so whiso the metro has a people >> so the metro has a people smuggler 11 years for £50 smuggler jailed 11 years for £50 million dinghy kingpin . so this million dinghy kingpin. so this guy he's called hewa rahimpur. he's an iranian kurd who claimed asylum in the uk in 2016, showing that our asylum regulator sessions are remarkably lax. and he was he was running this this smuggling network that brought 10,000 people across the channel so

that's that's according to their calculations. it's £50 million worth of people. but you still working at this little sweet kiosk in ilford. that's the bit i don't understand work ethic. he just loved selling maltesers so much and work ethic. >> we've heard so much about that. we need. >> he's got like £50 million >> so he's got like £50 million business. hand. on business. on the one hand. on the he just wants to the other hand, he just wants to keep out these creme keep dishing out these creme eggs for 50. >> come on, you know what it's like. >> people call it a front. when you're self—employed, you never know when it's to up, know when it's going to dry up, do something else. >> hustle. yeah, a good >> side hustle. yeah, a good side hustle. all right. well, maybe then? side hustle. all right. well, may quickly, then? side hustle. all right. well, may quickly, the then? side hustle. all right. well, may quickly, the times then? and quickly, do the times crescent ? crescent? >> yes. so the main headline is biden israeli offensive. >> yes. so the main headline is biden alreadyiraeli offensive. >> yes. so the main headline is biden already talkedffensive. >> yes. so the main headline is biden already talked about e. >> yes. so the main headline is biden already talked about that, we've already talked about that, but they've also pm but they've also got this pm risks by risks ministerial revolt by reviving ban . reviving conversion therapy ban. so this is this is a bit of a surprise, isn't it? rishi is now he's going to include and will include a draft bill in the king's speech that would ban attempts to change another person's sexuality or gender identity england or wales. so identity in england or wales. so it sounds good because we all think, conversion

think, oh, banning conversion therapy, 50s. therapy, that's from the 50s. but of course it now includes stopping people talking to people who are thinking about transitioning, about whether or not that's the right thing for them. yeah. which yeah , well it them. yeah. which yeah, well it just seems so some people would say that transitioning people is the conversion therapy because a lot of trans people in lot of, lot of trans people in the old days would have gone on lot of, lot of trans people in thnjusti days would have gone on lot of, lot of trans people in thnjusti dajyou ould have gone on lot of, lot of trans people in thnjusti dajyou know, ave gone on lot of, lot of trans people in thnjusti dajyou know, gaygone on lot of, lot of trans people in thnjusti dajyou know, gay one on lesbian. >> and it's not just some, it's 90% is the number that people the is . the current is. >> it's 90% of people who are thinking about changing gender when they're young go on when they're really young go on to same sex attracted. so to be same sex attracted. so it's occasional mistake . it's not an occasional mistake. >> so some people are saying, you being we're you know, we're being we're seeing the erasure of gay the next and next generation of gay and lesbian they're lesbian people because they're being is being transitioned, which is what funnily what they do in iran. funnily enough. anybody enough. so, you know, anybody talking be would talking to them would be would be in trouble. you know, if you suggested anything other than transitioning would be transitioning that would be seen as people , you know, as converting people, you know, conversion therapy away from transition . yeah, very strange. transition. yeah, very strange. >> good point. it's good >> good point. i mean, it's good that doing this, that sunak is doing this, but surely reverse surely labour will just reverse it as they in.

it as soon as they get in. i mean, that's what i've heard. they're do. but anyway, they're going to do. but anyway, that for part but that is it for part one. but coming maloney coming up, maloney speaks out against migration. against mass migration. a tory mp trouble racial mp is in trouble for racial stereotyping and the sas are ready

radio. >> welcome back to headliners . >> welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon, still here with headliners, legends , leo kearse. headliners, legends, leo kearse. there he is. and chris de wet. and i almost forgot your name for a split second there. it's very weird. so with that in mind, let's continue with the

stories and we've got this one, this bbc story in the sun. the bbc were too quick to blame israel for the hospital blast that now seems to have been a misfire hamas. where does misfire from hamas. where does this fit into the broadcast ecology? what i want ecology? leo? that's what i want to know. >> well, yes, so the bbc are state broadcaster state propagandist, broadcaster who repeatedly called for to gb news be down, are accused news be shut down, are accused of lives at risk after of putting lives at risk after rushing to blame israel for a hospital blast that killed 500 and killed. 500 is in inverted commas because it's in doubt as well . and the pm has taken well. and the pm has taken a jab. that's a jab at the bbc, not not a booster shot. i'm sure he's definitely work, though. yeah. all they did. oh 100. 100% safe. >> that's why your baby's having them all. >> she's. she's not having the covid one. but so the foreign secretary, james cleverly today had a go at the bbc for putting out information saying that israel was responsible for the strike on the blast at the

hospital in gaza without verifying the facts, which is strange because the bbc of their own bbc verify service to verify facts and rishi sunak also said that the bbc also had a go at the bbc saying the words that we say have impact and yet there was. i mean the bbc immediately came out and said, you know, this it's seen around the world and it sort of validates it in the in the eyes of people around the in the eyes of people around the world. you know, something that used to be as reputable as the bbc saying, you know, saying something , you know, presenting something, you know, presenting something, you know, presenting something as fact, saying this was airstrike when as was an israeli airstrike when as we've seen the evidence points to it not being an israeli airstrike. there's the lack of the big crater, as we mentioned , the big crater, as we mentioned, and there's lack of and there's the lack of structural seems structural damage. it seems to be as if was be mainly a fire as if it was rocket propellant. you rocket propellant. and, you know, and rocket a rocket exploding in the in the car park. and so, yeah, this this seems to be a lot of propaganda that the bbc just went for and is mean i mean the is the cause i mean i mean the most generous thing i can think of i said before is that of maybe i said before is that they were trying to the

they were trying to get to the story quickly. >> or just this >> but or is it just this implicit anti—israel that implicit anti—israel bias that seems don't know. >> it could a little from >> it could be a little from column, from column b, column, a little from column b, couldn't mean, don't couldn't it? i mean, i don't know. does fit with know. it does seem to fit with the approach they've taken thus far. and don't far. i'll say that. and i don't know talking them know, you're talking about them having of like a brand having this sort of like a brand that believes in, but that everybody believes in, but there's loads of evidence to say that they're borrowed that that's they're on borrowed time. i think the bbc i was looking at a tweet today, matt goodwin people to ask goodwin had polled people to ask if they trust the bbc and he's plotted the years go by. it plotted as the years go by. it started in the 80s% a few years later 61, this is only later at 61, and this is only like in the last 20 years and it's now down to under half. well, the last time we well, that was the last time we got. point is that brand got. the point is that the brand is long losing its weight. >> they've still got the name . >> they've still got the name. it's kind of like you go and see the beach and just the beach boys and it's just like them. he's 80. like one of them. and he's 80. they haven't even got brian wilson, all the songs. wilson, who wrote all the songs. they've it still says bbc. >> people trust the >> so people still trust got the guy who wrote kokomo? >> exactly. actual >> yeah, exactly. no the actual hit actual good songs. hit well the actual good songs. but mean rear but yeah i mean i mean rear admiral dr. chris parry said here, is wrong admiral dr. chris parry said here,our is wrong

admiral dr. chris parry said here,our national is wrong admiral dr. chris parry said here,our national broadcaster? admiral dr. chris parry said here,o beentional broadcaster? admiral dr. chris parry said here,o been infiltrated dcaster? admiral dr. chris parry said here,o been infiltrated by|ster? has it been infiltrated by islamists? is a sort of islamists? which is a sort of satirical way of putting it, but it's more likely it's been infiltrated de colonialists infiltrated by de colonialists and lefties just and sort of lefties who just can't help themselves. i mean, corbyn was quick , of corbyn was very quick, of course, that. it was it course, to post that. it was it was and actors, was it was israel and actors, was it robert lindsay was quick to post it you just go, why? you it and you just go, why? you know, they just know, why can't they just be a bit and bit less bit more moderate and a bit less reckless their what seems reckless with their what seems to be anti—israel bias? >> yeah, this shown the >> yeah, and this is shown the sort of poison that lies behind all terms that all those nice terms that leftists decolonial leftists use, like decolonial ism, systemic oppression , an all ism, systemic oppression, an all the all these things that it looks like they're doing a good thing are all used to justify, you know, absolute barbarity and used to justify terrorism and you know what, lastly on this, i imagine if it was gb news did this, everyone was saying shut it down. >> so, you know, bbc, you know, live sword, die the live by the sword, die by the sword. and sword. let's do the times and giorgia has warned that giorgia meloni has warned that mass is a grave mass migration is a grave security risk. but is she actually going anything actually going to do anything about actually going to do anything abochristopher eu open >> christopher meloni eu open borders terrorists to

borders allow terrorists to roam. so most of this article is like a cv, a sort of career of the gunman , abdullah salim the gunman, abdullah salim lahoud , who recently killed two lahoud, who recently killed two swedish football fans . and his swedish football fans. and his life is just crazy. she gives this account meloni is giving an account of what he's been up to. so she's she's recently she's repeatedly tried to attract attention to how illegal mass migration can pose grave security risks on europe. and then we get this example . so he then we get this example. so he arrived in italy and then he travelled to nonnay only to be sent back to italy . the point is sent back to italy. the point is he's been all around europe and he's been all around europe and he's been all around europe and he's been he's been in trouble for dealing cocaine and he's beenin for dealing cocaine and he's been in prison for two years for that. it's not like he's come, he's turned up and he's kept his head down. he's caused as much trouble as he possibly could. it's sort ultimate it's like the sort of ultimate middle but also middle class gap here, but also with grand auto with a bit of grand theft auto at time. it's just at the same time. it's just absolute madness. and so she's saying, this saying, you know, this this doesn't need to change things. >> it's bit challenge, >> it's a bit of a challenge, a story of archetypal story for the sort of archetypal remainer to story for the sort of archetypal rem the r to

story for the sort of archetypal rem the schengen to story for the sort of archetypal rem the schengen zone to to story for the sort of archetypal rem the schengen zone to just to use the schengen zone to just waltz around. then, you know, he sold on the side, not sold coke on the side, not exactly the economy, exactly helping the economy, which is one of exactly helping the economy, whiwbenefits is one of exactly helping the economy, whiwbenefits of is one of exactly helping the economy, whiwbenefits of immigration.“ of the benefits of immigration. what you think? what do you think? >> it quite a lot, >> bankers use it quite a lot, don't it? don't they? isn't it? >> good point, >> that's a good point, actually. allegedly a leo >> that's a good point, actua|no, allegedly a leo >> that's a good point, actua|no, absolutely ly a leo >> that's a good point, actua|no, absolutely .( a leo yeah, no, absolutely. >> i mean, the thing is, i mean, he came into lampedusa. this is a island that's a small italian island that's recently and recently seen thousands and thousands recently seen thousands and thousfrom north africa, 7000 for from from north africa, 7000 for a 6000 population. yeah. and that's just in a few days. so. and they're still landing. and, you obviously way back you know, obviously way back when he landed in 2011, they were coming then. but this must be so rich. >> the thing is you're plc just once migrants so there's a there's a sort of conspiracy to prevent regular people indigenous citizens from having children because if we have children because if we have children then it's cost the state to money raise them and to educate them and for their health care and it also means we come out of our jobs to look after the children . after the children. >> so instead of doing that, they want us in our jobs, slaving tax, and

they want us in our jobs, slavi want tax, and they want us in our jobs, slavi want to tax, and they want us in our jobs, slavi want to bring tax, and they want us in our jobs, slavi want to bring ta people in they want to bring new people in fully age to sell the fully grown age 25 to sell the cocaine and, you know, behead the swedish tourists without having people doing having home—grown people doing it. okay. >> that's interesting. think it. okay. >> a1at's interesting. think it. okay. >> a sort interesting. think it. okay. >> a sort ofteresting. think it. okay. >> a sort of conspiracy? think it. okay. >> a sort of conspiracy? i think it's a sort of conspiracy? i tend think, they tend to think, yeah, they definitely migration definitely are using migration as solution. but as a short term solution. but isn't it just that we have this birth rate problem no one's birth rate problem that no one's figured out how but we birth rate problem that no one's figur(a out how but we birth rate problem that no one's figur(a out irate but we birth rate problem that no one's figur(a out irate problemt we have a birth rate problem because have a birth rate problem becaus(and they can't afford houses and they can't afford houses and they can't afford houses because there's many houses because there's too many people many people and there's too many people and there's too many people and there's too many people and also article borders and also every article you the is you read in the guardian is like, oh, you should be a strong, person and strong, independent person and not children. strong, independent person and not having1ildren. strong, independent person and nothaving1ildren. is best >> having children is the best thing and i didn't thing in the world. and i didn't know had kids. it's like know till i had kids. it's like they keep secret. they keep it a secret. >> a debate last >> yeah, i was in a debate last night aaronovitch night and david aaronovitch are you said you allowed to say what was said at the debate? probably. he said he of laughed at the he sort of laughed at the idea that need thinking this he sort of laughed at the idea tha day. need thinking this all day. >> was too. does >> i was there too. he does good. he and this man, good. and he says, and this man, this man's idea about we this man's idea about how we can populate have populate the country is to have more children . more children. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> i've been thinking about that all day . all day. >> lots of people in the hall were yeah, we do need to. were like, yeah, we do need to. but in the of sometimes but in the sort of sometimes gets the remainer class gets the sort of remainer class that's literally that's thought to be literally

laughable. we've that's thought to be literally laughemove we've that's thought to be literally laughemove on. we've that's thought to be literally laughemove on. let's we've that's thought to be literally laughemove on. let's do we've that's thought to be literally laughemove on. let's do the/e got to move on. let's do the guardian mp is in guardian and tory mp is in trouble over language trouble over her language regarding trouble over her language regaiallg caroline age types sure all the caroline age types who over hamas who remain silent over hamas will suddenly rediscover their twitter for this one. twitter accounts for this one. >> yeah, so a tory mp >> leo yeah, so a tory mp accused of playing up the racist stereotype asylum stereotype apps about asylum seekers, she this is after claiming that her office was besieged by asylum seekers and that her staff were intimidated by young men, most of whom she said should be expelled as illegal migrants. said should be expelled as illegal migrants . yes. so she's illegal migrants. yes. so she's in constituency of in the constituency of hartlepool, an and she's been criticised by the tamsin roberts baxter from the refugee council , baxter from the refugee council, who said that the majority of people who come to the uk seeking asylum would be recognised as refugees in need of would . of protection, yet they would. it doesn't mean they actually are. that just that we've are. that just shows that we've got incredibly asylum got an incredibly lax asylum system can be can system and the rules can be can be very easily . and rosie be played very easily. and rosie carter, director of policy at hope not hate definitely has pronouns in her bio, says playing up to racist stereotypes about seekers and about asylum seekers and scaremongering simply not scaremongering is simply not acceptable responsible

acceptable or responsible behaviour from an mp . i don't behaviour from an mp. i don't know . i think the people who know. i think the people who need to not play up to racist stereotypes about asylum seekers are asylum seekers. this this week. i mean, just don't go around shouting allah akbar and beheading swedish football fans. >> you actually missed out my favourite the not hate favourite of the hope not hate person's they said hope person's quote. they said hope has sharp increase in has recorded a sharp increase in far right anti—migrant activity around the country, which can tear apart communities and i feel like murder tearing apart the community. >> absolutely . that's hilarious. >> absolutely. that's hilarious. completely denying their lived the mps lived experience as usual. i'm concerned about this and so are my constituents. no, they're not. >> they're obsessed with rhetoric. they're never obsessed with the real things with like the real things happening dangers , happening and the real dangers, like then like the rhetoric. guys, then hamas people. hamas attack a load of people. we anything from all hamas attack a load of people. we sort anything from all hamas attack a load of people. we sort of anything from all hamas attack a load of people. we sort of twittering from all hamas attack a load of people. we sort of twitter types1m all hamas attack a load of people. we sort of twitter types andll these sort of twitter types and these sort of twitter types and these lefties. then it's like, oh, braverman is these lefties. then it's like, oibit braverman is these lefties. then it's like, oibit i'm braverman is these lefties. then it's like, oibit i'm getting erman is these lefties. then it's like, oibit i'm getting sotan is these lefties. then it's like, oibit i'm getting so sicks a bit mean. i'm getting so sick of anyway let's do the of it. anyway let's do the guardian update in the guardian and an update in the shocking berlin shocking story of the berlin synagogue firebombed. synagogue that was firebombed. cressida olaf scholz vows to fight anti semitism after berlin

synagogue firebombed so it didn't actually catch on fire. >> but there was an attempt to sort of molotov cocktails were thrown at this synagogue in berlin. and that's obviously not okay. and germany's chancellor has expressed outrage over this . has expressed outrage over this. and you know, we are beginning to see some of this sort of stuff in this country, aren't we? we saw the red paint thrown on a jewish school in london recently. obviously awful recently. it's obviously awful stuff. germany , it's ten stuff. and in germany, it's ten times because their times worse because of their history the holocaust. history with the holocaust. so he's very quick to come out and say, you know, just got to say, you know, we've just got to get inhumane, get rid of this. it's inhumane, abhorrent . well, yeah. >> and i suddenly knew it was a guardian article at the end. they say, oh, by the way, there's still more there's still much more of a rise far right extreme at the rise in far right extreme at the very end. what was your take? leo just think leo yeah, i mean, i just think what do people think multiculturalism ? multiculturalism was? >> cultures, some >> i mean, some cultures, some cultures other cultures have hatred for other cultures. you cultures. so if you, if you bnng cultures. so if you, if you bring the cultures into the country, into western europe and allow them to , to sort of fester allow them to, to sort of fester there, then you're going to get

anti—semitism, you're going to get islamophobia here or, you know, fights between sikhs and muslims or hindus. so, yeah, this is what this is what multiculturalism is. and i feel ineed multiculturalism is. and i feel i need to provide balance. >> but it's been tough with the stories tonight. i have to say they're all very much of a piece. that's piece. all right. that's all we've got time for in this section. we didn't get to the section. we didn't get on to the essays, basically essays, but they're basically being to be being deployed or ready to be deployed hostages in being deployed or ready to be depl0jthat hostages in being deployed or ready to be depl0jthat it hostages in being deployed or ready to be depl0jthat it for)stages in being deployed or ready to be depl0jthat it for part es in being deployed or ready to be depl0jthat it for part two. gaza. that is it for part two. but up, rowling is but coming up, j.k. rowling is prepared prison. prepared to go to prison. a referee the wrong guy. referee sends off the wrong guy. and victoria's secret have

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welcome up to headliners. >> let's get straight into it with the times. and jk rowling says she'd be prepared to go to pnson says she'd be prepared to go to prison to defend women's rights. she'll probably get decent she'll probably get a decent book cressida see book out of it. cressida see what did ? what i did? >> i've wrong story. >> i've got the wrong story. here go. rowling here we go. jk rowling i'll happily to prison for women's happily go to prison for women's rights . so the authors made rights. so the authors made these comments after reports suggested that labour make suggested that labour would make transphobic attacks aggravated offences, which is more important than normal offences. there isn't just here. there's no definition of transphobic attacks. so i guess that's open to interpretation , presumably by to interpretation, presumably by the person that's received the attack or seen it or seen it or seen it. yeah. yeah, exactly. so what she the thing is, the headune what she the thing is, the headline makes it sound like she said, yeah, i'll go to prison like she's kind of doing some trash talk, talking. but it's not that's she not like that's what she actually said on twitter. she said, do years said, i'll happily do two years if compelled . if the alternative is compelled. speech and forced denial of the

reality and importance of sex, which is not quite the same thing, is it? >> well, was a response to >> well, it was a response to this mail sunday this piece in the mail on sunday that's been going around. you know, could two years know, you could do two years on the misgendering and know, you could do two years on the just misgendering and know, you could do two years on the just justsgendering and know, you could do two years on the just justsgernoting and this just this just it's not that really go that j.k. rowling will really go to prison, but it does just highlight absurdity that highlight the absurdity that someone like that could fall foul of their law, which technically could lead to that. it just shows how absurd labour are . and always say, it's are. and as i always say, it's going get so much worse going to get so much worse on the you it can't the labour. you think it can't get talking about get worse? i'm talking about something where something on my podcast where this in in this might not come in in scotland. up scotland. so you could go up to the and could sort of the border and you could sort of jump the border and you could sort of jump border and say, jump over the border and say, dylan mulvaney and then dylan mulvaney is a man and then jump dylan mulvaney is a man and then jump england where you jump back into england where you have it's a woman. have to say it's a woman. >> yeah, yeah. well, i think it's difficult it's going to be very difficult for a rod for for labour and making a rod for their because are they their own back because are they going refer going to always be able to refer to she her right. to me as she her right. >> you're a woman . >> because you're a woman. >> because you're a woman. >> a jewish woman . >> because i'm a a jewish woman. i'm apparently i'm a a jewish woman as well today. just just to explain you, allison pearson said you were jewish in the telegraph. >> jewish comedian lucas. >> jewish comedian lucas. >> in the shower and >> i did check in the shower and i'm not. >> but how bizarre. >> but how bizarre. >> but how bizarre. >> but i got it. go on.

>> but i got it. go on. >> so, yeah , because they do a >> so, yeah, because they do a snip, you know, i got that. >> i just can't understand why allison, never mind moving on. >> didn't get the >> i thought you didn't get the joke. like to clarify joke. we just like to clarify it . at 5 am. . anyone at home at 5 am. didn't get that. yeah, she didn't get that. yeah, she didn't another headliners. >> comedian, probably. nick. yeah, but yeah, we've yeah, but. but but yeah, we've seen we've seen in scotland seen and we've seen in scotland where jk rowling lives. i don't know why because she's rich, but we've like some egregious we've seen like some egregious examples of , of we've seen like some egregious examples of, of mails being sent to, to women's prisons, although the, the butcher of is it the butcher of montrose . fantastic butcher of montrose. fantastic name for for her drag queen actually when he gets out he can he can start doing that but he's been sent for down horrific crimes and gone to a male prison. yeah well, it's absolutely shocking. >> i mean , you think it would >> i mean, you think it would ever actually happen? you think anyone's actually going to go to pnson anyone's actually going to go to prison they can't because the >> well, they can't because the pnsons >> well, they can't because the prisons full. so there's prisons are full. so there's that there's buffer keep that there's that buffer to keep them that there's that buffer to keep the yeah. right, silver >> yeah. all right, silver lining. the metro. and lining. let's do the metro. and a trouble lining. let's do the metro. and a booking trouble lining. let's do the metro. and a booking the trouble lining. let's do the metro. and a booking the wrong trouble lining. let's do the metro. and a booking the wrong black.e lining. let's do the metro. and a booking the wrong black man . for booking the wrong black man. to happen to to be fair, it could happen to any leo. any racist. leo.

>> yeah. so footballer is sent off by mistake after referee booked wrong black man. so booked the wrong black man. so this was lewisham borough f.c. there were 3—2 up against lordswood f.c. when the referee sent off the wrong player in the 68th minute and the side went on to lose 5—3 in extra time. so it's very likely they wouldn't have they'd been sent have lost if they'd been sent off because the player had a yellow card. obviously two yellows makes a red, so another player got a yellow card. the referee couldn't tell them apart. i'm not laughing, couldn't tell them apart, and sent the wrong one off. but this i mean, this doesn't just happen to black people. the itv was it showed a picture of a gorilla instead of nicola sturgeon . so instead of nicola sturgeon. so you know mix ups , mix ups. you know mix ups, mix ups. >> do you were bruce dessau the other day because you're both scottish we only have 1—1 on the show because we can't tell them apart. so that's the system we use. that struck use. but the part that struck me, seem more me, i mean, they seem more bothered the match bothered about losing the match and of these and they're kind of using these other you other things to sort of, you know, point . but it know, make their point. but it says football should

know, make their point. but it sayfor football should know, make their point. but it sayfor everyone football should know, make their point. but it sayfor everyone andtball should know, make their point. but it sayfor everyone and no .l should be for everyone and no individual group should feel be for everyone and no indiv have group should feel be for everyone and no indiv have grouftreatedi feel they have been treated differently because of their identity. was identity. well, that was a problem. they weren't treated differently. they were treated all thing. that's differently. they were treated all anyway thing. that's differently. they were treated all anyway , thing. that's differently. they were treated all anyway , justthing. that's differently. they were treated all anyway , just making|at's differently. they were treated all anyway , just making my. differently. they were treated all anyway , just making my point why anyway, just making my point there, what do you think? >> apologised >> i think they've apologised and ever, ever, and so it's never, ever, ever, ever to end, is it? ever going to end, is it? apologies don't get you anywhere either. know, it's either. i mean, you know, it's such reasonable apology, such a reasonable apology, isn't it? sorry, can we move it? like, i'm sorry, can we move on? no, don't think that's on? no, i don't think that's going . they're saying going to happen. they're saying they'll hope it doesn't happen again then. i mean, i it's not for me to say. but as you say, we do sometimes get mistaken for other people . yeah. and if other people. yeah. and if anything, humanity, i mean, it points to a lack of diversity in football. >> if you had somebody from every like every major region on the continent, like one japanese guy, one inuit guy , one nigerian guy, one inuit guy, one nigerian guy, one inuit guy, one nigerian guy, then you'd never you'd never especially if they were in their traditional dress. yeah well, people the funny thing is football. >> someone suggested that the other day. people didn't suggest that. but obviously. but they keep saying that women's football it's like, football, you know, it's like, is diverse all these

is it diverse enough? all these kind of things. so when you introduce and the introduce politics and the politics of equity into football, very, very football, it can get very, very strange. football, it can get very, very strdo je. football, it can get very, very strdo with this story, which is to do with this story, which is just kind ridiculous. let's to do with this story, which is justhe|d ridiculous. let's to do with this story, which is justhe guardian ulous. let's that do the guardian and get off that one. to ban one. an australia want to ban lies political advertising. one. an australia want to ban lies guesstical advertising. one. an australia want to ban lies guess they advertising. one. an australia want to ban lies guess they wanttising. one. an australia want to ban lies guess they wanttisiban so i guess they want to ban political capacity. political advertising capacity. >> almost 9 in 10 australians support plan to outlaw lies in political advertising. poll shows . which is amazing because shows. which is amazing because that means 10% think it's fine, keep going. >> look, i was so alarmed by your point. i just smacked my pen across the thing. your point. i just smacked my per i across the thing. your point. i just smacked my peri thoughte thing. your point. i just smacked my peri thought you ng. your point. i just smacked my peri thought you were heckling >> i thought you were heckling my g0 on. sorry my point. nick. go on. sorry about that. yeah. so they've my point. nick. go on. sorry about this. yeah. so they've my point. nick. go on. sorry about this. they'veo they've my point. nick. go on. sorry about this. they've asked ve asked this. they've asked people. well, do they think they should should they make should outlaw? should they make it illegal? but of the it illegal? but of course, the problem that do problem with that is if you do make not that make it illegal, not that i'm for political for lies in political advertising, you say, advertising, but as you say, firstly, that political firstly, that is political advertising . and secondly, who's advertising. and secondly, who's going police ? going to police the police? yeah. is there some yeah. yeah. is there some neutral person that's not interested who's interested in politics who's just to check all the just going to check all the adverts? mean. what i adverts? i mean. yeah what i picked this is that picked up reading this is that it's talking picked up reading this is that it's misinformationlking picked up reading this is that it's misinformation and; disinformation. >> they're saying, oh, this is why the referendum was lost and

we've here it's we've been here before. it's like say like when they say misinformation or disinformation, to disinformation, they seem to mean censor mean we want to censor conservatives . basically. that's conservatives. basically. that's what i took from it. what do you think? in think? yeah like we've seen in previous . previous elections. >> i mean, example, in >> i mean, for example, in america, where the people who would experts this would be the experts in this situation, you know, the social media fact checkers , media giants, the fact checkers, they all decided that hunter biden's laptop a non—story biden's laptop was a non—story when in fact, it was completely true revealed lots of true and revealed lots of terrible about hunter terrible things about hunter biden and corruption involving the entire biden clan. so yeah, i mean, as krista says , who's i mean, as krista says, who's going to police the police ? going to police the police? >> you know what they should do? they should just play. yes minister, all schoolchildren, minister, to all schoolchildren, like of inoculation so like as a kind of inoculation so that you that when you go through, you know, politics works , maybe know, how politics works, maybe sunak to get elected. >> let's do the telegraph. and a radical idea from victoria's secret using ugly people to secret stop using ugly people to sell undennear. leo yeah, that's my side. >> hustle gone . so victoria's >> hustle gone. so victoria's secret a feminist secret is dropped a feminist makeover after sales slump. it's dropping its feminist makeover and bringing back sexiness sexiness as it tries to reverse

falling sales. so the company retired its traditional catwalks with its signature angels in 2018 and declared its aspiration to be the world's leading advocate for women. but it turns out women actually want to be objectified instead of lectured about body positivity. i'm thinking i'm speaking for the whole panel. so basically , whole panel. so basically, victoria's secret, we're using larger models such as paloma elssler , i don't know, somebody, elssler, i don't know, somebody, an ally, tate cutler, who are advocates for body positivity and they're ready . venue and they're ready. venue dropped, 5% drop. well dropped more than that over over the three years from 2020. so this year 6.2 billion. in 2020. it was 7.5 billion. so that's a huge drop. they've bud lighted themselves. absolutely. >> exactly. the thing isn't it? you go go broke although some companies are so dedicated to it, just it anyway and it, they just do it anyway and they funding from these they can get funding from these esg so on. esg things and so on. >> aren't dedicated. esg things and so on. >> they aren't dedicated. esg things and so on. >> they got aren't dedicated. esg things and so on. >> they got in aren't dedicated. esg things and so on. >> they got in arlot: dedicated. esg things and so on. >> they got in arlot ofedicated. esg things and so on. >> they got in arlot of trouble. >> they got in a lot of trouble pnor >> they got in a lot of trouble prior to this and then they started panicking. and here's a

brilliant statement sexiness can celebrate the diverse experiences of our customers , experiences of our customers, and that's what we're focussed on. that mean ? on. what does that mean? >> that losing money. >> guys, bring back the hot chicks. >> that means thinks of panic. try something else. they're having spokesmodels now. what's a spokesmodel ? well, it's just a a spokesmodel? well, it's just a really bad idea, isn't it? a spokesmodel? yes fantastic. >> i mean, it's quite strange . >> i mean, it's quite strange. it's a bit of confusion in the modern culture. it says executives now plan to prioritise over prioritise sex appeal over female were told female empowerment. we were told they were the same thing of they were the same thing lots of times work was times i thought sex work was work all totally up times i thought sex work was we me. all totally up to me. >> if i want to be really, really want to hear the really sexy, i want to hear the political opinions lingerie political opinions of a lingerie model much as i want to model about as much as i want to see gordon brown in lingerie. >> yeah, what's funny >> yeah, what's really funny is they're fudge they're now trying to fudge it and of, oh, we're still, and sort of, oh, we're still, we're so we're still empowering. so they came phrase came up with this phrase sexiness can be inclusive. i mean, what that mean ? it can't. >> it's specific. can't >> it's specific. can't >> but not only does that not make the exact make sense, it's the exact opposite. every opposite. if you think every one's sexy, right . and they're one's sexy, right. and they're not it's not a place to be inclusive . you should be inclusive. you should be exclusive. we've all seen the

devil prada. devil wears prada. >> fashion is >> the fashion industry is the least most elitist least inclusive, most elitist industry that's it's industry. and that's what it's supposed it's about. >> it's supposed to be aspirational in a fantasy, right? we've that one. aspirational in a fantasy, right'do 'e've that one. aspirational in a fantasy, right' do 'e'vetelegraph, |t one. aspirational in a fantasy, right' do 'e'vetelegraph, |t onwthe let's do the telegraph, and the national start national theatre will start its shows earlier in evening to shows earlier in the evening to accommodate boring people. cressida . cressida absolutely. >> national theatre will start evening earlier to suit evening shows earlier to suit post—covid habits. so really the story is that the national theatre have done some market research and they've asked their customers as they'd to customers as if they'd like to come theatre earlier and come to the theatre earlier and they apparently come to the theatre earlier and they all apparently come to the theatre earlier and they all to apparently come to the theatre earlier and they all to go apparently come to the theatre earlier and they all to go out)arently they all want to go out drinking, and discussing drinking, eating and discussing the so that the show aftennards. so that sounds perfectly reasonable to me . i mean, i don't know whether me. i mean, i don't know whether there's not much evidence in here that is what here to show that covid is what changed i think changed things, although i think covid change rather, covid did change or rather, lockdown people's most lockdown changed people's most people. there's people now that can't house. can't even leave the house. they're in their they're still at home in their pyjamas. a friend who pyjamas. i've got a friend who works hasn't pyjamas. i've got a friend who worksin hasn't pyjamas. i've got a friend who worksin for hasn't pyjamas. i've got a friend who worksin for months. hasn't pyjamas. i've got a friend who worksin for months. he's hasn't pyjamas. i've got a friend who worksin for months. he's not sn't been in for months. he's not going the theatre either. >> just at home watching netflix wearing a mask. yeah. mean , wearing a mask. yeah. i mean, it's basically people to it's basically people want to get out of the get the boring play out of the way and then get on with their drinking. what took way and then get on with their drinkit.j. what took way and then get on with their drinkit.j. problem took

way and then get on with their drinkit.j. problem istook way and then get on with their drinkit.j. problem is london from it. the problem is london is not a hour that is so not a 24 hour city that unless one unless you know, like the one bar in soho that you would have some weird membership for, you basically have to go home at like so basically have to go home at like have so basically have to go home at like have get so basically have to go home at like have get at so basically have to go home at like have get at 630.1 you have to get out at 630. >> and also, i think >> yeah. and also, i think there's a problem there's been a problem with theatres, punters there's been a problem with theatres up punters there's been a problem with theatresup drunk punters there's been a problem with theatresup drunk and jntersbeing turning up drunk and then being disruptive during the performances getting thrown disruptive during the perf(so ances getting thrown disruptive during the perf(so maybe getting thrown disruptive during the perf(so maybe this|etting thrown disruptive during the perf(so maybe this|et'a|g thrown disruptive during the perf(so maybe this|et'a|g th ofvn out. so maybe this is a way of nipping that the bud. nipping that in the bud. >> that sounds like it would happen no offence, happen in scotland. no offence, but. you still? but. and are you scottish still? i remember. anyway, i can't remember. anyway, that is but coming is it for part three. but coming up final section, our up in the final section, our robots lazy. do we robots making us lazy. do we really roll? and the really need toilet roll? and the french rugby nun french rugby tackling nun unmissable . see

welcome out to headliners. let's get straight into it with the telegraph and the feel good story of the year. a french nun rugby tackling an environmental protester. and we have the video i >> looks like eunuch . peter no

>> looks like eunuch. peter no. save your . save your. that's the french rugby tackling nun leo any more on this yeah so this is the these protesters these environmental protesters are trying to sabotage building works at saint pierre de colombia in the south eastern ardeche region as the nuns formed a scrum around the digger at and somebody said the problem is the nuns this is the co—president for the association for the future of the valley , for the future of the valley, which is against the church product says the problem is the nuns have decided to turn to violence. i've been attacked three times by people three times by five people who wanted up and throw me wanted to rip me up and throw me out. they've decided to protect the construction with acts the construction site with acts and their bodies. >> why can't they do >> yeah. why can't they do something like stop something peaceful? like stop people to hospital people getting to hospital

appointments? you know what i mean? old school? mean? like old school? >> this really bothered mean? like old school? >> i this really bothered mean? like old school? >> i mean, s really bothered mean? like old school? >> i mean, it'eally bothered mean? like old school? >> i mean, it showsvothered mean? like old school? >> i mean, it showsvothe these me. i mean, it shows that these movements are kind of quasi religious. want to stop movements are kind of quasi religi01religions1vant to stop movements are kind of quasi religi01religions .ant to stop movements are kind of quasi religi01religions . and.n stop movements are kind of quasi religi01religions . and. and) movements are kind of quasi religi01religions . and. and they. actual religions. and. and they. i mean , the reason is so i mean, the reason is so ridiculous. they want to protect this fragrant flower . i mean, this fragrant flower. i mean, called the reseda jacquinia or something. that's why they don't want the church built. i mean, low testosterone is an issue throughout europe. it's what we're realising. >> surely the flower could just grow grounds , grow in the church's grounds, you'd think, wouldn't you? >> absolutely it's insane >> it's absolutely it's insane that nuns are having to do that the nuns are having to do they against they should deploy nuns against just stop you know what just stop oil. you know what i mean? tackling them the mean? just tackling them off the road. better than chaos >> it'd be better than chaos versus whatever his is. oh versus whatever his name is. oh yeah, tommy, was >> i love tommy, but it was a bad fight, wasn't it? yeah he lost again. it's like with the bombs earlier in the show. it's just bombs boxing. on this just bombs and boxing. on this show, more we show, there's so much more we can a video and can say. it's a great video and a but should a great moment and. but should we and do the guardian a great moment and. but should we our and do the guardian a great moment and. but should we our robots1d do the guardian a great moment and. but should we our robots makinge guardian a great moment and. but should we our robots making usiuardian a great moment and. but should we our robots making us lazy?m and our robots making us lazy? >> chris skudder social loafing found working alongside found when working alongside robots. so it turns out people tend to pay less attention to their work if they think a is

doing it, which i think is the whole point of robots. i think this tells we're nailing this just tells us we're nailing robots it? isn't robots really, doesn't it? isn't that ? that fair? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they've done some >> so they've done some research. they've measured how much people check the mistakes of their colleagues . and guess of their colleagues. and guess what? they check it less if their colleague is actually robot. >> yeah, because they think the robots done the work. and even if hasn't, they assume has if it hasn't, they assume it has . of why we . and this is sort of why we excel and we build technology and more and more and we become more and more efficient. could efficient. but it also could destroy us leo we destroy us all. leo because we just robots do everything just let robots do everything and get fat and lazy. just let robots do everything anc mean et fat and lazy. just let robots do everything anc mean we at and lazy. just let robots do everything anc mean we forget lazy. just let robots do everything anc mean we forget how i'd say >> mean we forget how i'd say it's happening it's already happening across the what's interesting is the west. what's interesting is it same of thing it says the same sort of thing happens when you're working with respected colleagues. happens when you're working with resp itted colleagues. happens when you're working with resp it back colleagues. happens when you're working with resp it back a colleagues. happens when you're working with resp it back a bit.colleagues. happens when you're working with resp it back a bit. justeagues. happens when you're working with resp it back a bit. just like 3s. happens when you're working with resp it back a bit. just like to dial it back a bit. just like to point out that i'm giving it 100% tonight. >> so that's why i'm giving it a 2. >> trust you. >> i trust you. >> i trust you. >> yeah, i know. it's a weird it's weird about phrase, but yeah, it's actually a good thing. think, he'll thing. you think, oh, he'll you basically think will it? basically think leo will do it? i have to. and it's i don't have to. and it's similar if you were a robot. similar to if you were a robot. it was evolution, isn't it? >> evolved not to waste

>> we've evolved not to waste energy on stuff and if you're doing waste doing a great job, won't waste any calories. doing a great job, won't waste any calorthat's. that's the >> yeah, that's. that's the pubuc >> yeah, that's. that's the public attitude. public sector attitude. >> well, feel like we're >> okay, well, i feel like we're sort of out of energy on sort of running out of energy on that should that story, so maybe we should move this next story is move on. and this next story is an absolute snooze fest. leo move on. and this next story is an .a solute snooze fest. leo move on. and this next story is an .a solutheahoze fest. leo move on. and this next story is an .asolutheah getfest. leo move on. and this next story is an .asolutheah get it?.. leo it's a pun. yeah get it? >> yeah. this is why scientists say it's not a bad idea to hit the snooze button and treat yourself extra 30 minutes yourself to an extra 30 minutes in in the morning. yourself to an extra 30 minutes in in the morning . so in bed in the morning. so snoozing isn't losing as people who regularly press the snooze button be mentally button may be mentally sharper when get up. this. when they finally get up. this. this is something that does my nuttin because i've noticed, like in particular tend to like women in particular tend to have about 37 alarms set at like one minute intervals. so you constantly have this alarm going off and waking . because when off and waking. because when i hear the first alarm, i wake up, that's me awake. like i don't have this ability to like then go to sleep and wake up in go back to sleep and wake up in another minute, then go back to sleep another. sleep and wake up in another. >> leo pre—coffee >> imagine leo kerr's pre—coffee being this first. yeah, i'm being like this first. yeah, i'm all for snoozing like a robot. >> just a very gradual process for me. >> no, my wife is. >> no, my wife is. >> there's one alarm. it goes off. and then. then you get up

this whole thing about like because surely they're saying, oh, but if you go back sleep oh, but if you go back to sleep and it makes you and then, you know, it makes you sharper, you sharper, how can it make you sharper, how can it make you sharper than sleeping for sharper than just sleeping for that whole time instead of waking times? waking up a million times? >> well, that be >> oh, yeah. well, that would be ideal >> oh, yeah. well, that would be ideal. aren't really >> oh, yeah. well, that would be ideichoices aren't really >> oh, yeah. well, that would be ideichoices atot't really >> oh, yeah. well, that would be ideichoices atot't |between the choices seem to be between just having an just getting up or having an extra hour. but extra like half an hour. but you're just set it later, you're saying just set it later, wake then just plan for them wake up then just plan for them because they're you get because they're saying you get into like nice transitional sleep. >> half hour is the best >> that half hour is the best sleep the sleep is sleep ever because the sleep is the sleep you wish you could have at in morning have at 3:00 in the morning comes know have to comes when you know you have to be that's you're be somewhere. that's when you're like . like completely dead weight. >> it's reverse psychology. >> it's the reverse psychology. sleep of like, oh, i have to get up. really to up. but i, i really want to sleep. like you've sleep. i don't like that you've made misogyny thing. leo. made it a misogyny thing. leo. i'm feminist this i'm a feminist here, and this thing women have 37 thing that it's women have 37 alarms. i mean, i've never even heard tate say that andrew tate claimed drink claimed that women don't drink water, agree with. water, which i agree with. cressida for this. cressida hates me for this. women don't drink water absolutely strongly , strongly. absolutely strongly, strongly. >> drink water. >> women don't drink water. >> women don't drink water. >> believe the alarm >> i don't believe the alarm thing anyway. >> don't want to >> haven't you? i don't want to go anything about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but anything about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but i anything about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but i bet anything about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but i bet you've nything about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but i bet you've nythi i; about >> haven't you? i don't want to go but i bet you've nythi i betout you, but i bet you've had. i bet you've data gathering

you've done more data gathering on alarms over the years on women's alarms over the years than have on male. i could than you have on male. i could be wrong. know . good point. >> well, you never know. don't underestimate leo, but. okay i mean, this story sort of is petering out. >> but what annoys me is they petering out. >> eyou/hat annoys me is they petering out. >> eyou advicenoys me is they petering out. >> eyou advice on s me is they petering out. >> eyou advice on how“ is they petering out. >> eyou advice on how to they petering out. >> eyou advice on how to sleep give you advice on how to sleep when as an when you can't sleep. and as an insomniac, just highly insomniac, that is just highly irritating. people that can sleep they can give you sleep think they can give you this magic that involves this magic formula that involves dnnks this magic formula that involves drinks and not looking at screens and all nonsense . screens and all this nonsense. if you can't sleep, you can't sleep. annoying, isn't it? >> turn your %” %-- >> turn off your screen an hour before then how can before bed. well then how can i look videos on internet? look at videos on the internet? you gonna do that. you know i'm not gonna do that. what do you want me to do? have a candle a book and quill. a candle and a book and a quill. i'm watch phone i'm going to watch my phone until unconscious and until i fall unconscious and then and start then get up again and start looking in looking at it immediately. in about four hours. that's what i'm isn't it? i'm going to do, isn't it? but i mean, the ridiculous i'm mean, the most ridiculous i'm sorry, the most ridiculous sentence here most common sentence here is the most common reason people give for resetting their alarm and enjoying a snoozeis their alarm and enjoying a snooze is that they're too tired their alarm and enjoying a sn wake s that they're too tired their alarm and enjoying a sn wake s th how ey're too tired their alarm and enjoying a sn wake s th how ey'rtthat tired to wake up. how did that sentence a national sentence make it into a national newspaper? of course it is the reason. i got really reason. all right. i got really weirdly about that one. weirdly annoyed about that one. let's now with let's do the guardian now with something cressida something about pokemon cressida . i have idea what this is.

. i have no idea what this is. good like andrew good because i feel like andrew doyle football . pokemon. >> just me, pokemon on no go. van museum stops free cards van gogh museum stops free cards amid chaos . van gogh museum stops free cards amid chaos. so i think what's happenedis amid chaos. so i think what's happened is pokemon is very popular . i happened is pokemon is very popular. i think. i think people really like it. and this, this museum they've created a sort of mash of pokemon and van gogh because apparently van gogh had some links to japan. we haven't got time for that. i don't know why, do actually. >> we've got to fill that feel quite lot of time story. >> so created this kind >> so they've created this kind of it's picture of a pokemon of it's a picture of a pokemon with a hat or something and it's extremely popular. >> i we found the answer >> i think we found the answer to secret's problem to victoria's secret's problem here. get some pokemon in lingerie. people can't get enough of it. and so now there are. so when you go to see this picture of a pokemon, you get given some of playing card. given some sort of playing card. it's free. when you go to the exhibition , but there's only exhibition, but there's only a limited number. now limited number. and now these tickets trying buy tickets outs are trying to buy them for amounts them off people for huge amounts of and so the museum is of money and so the museum is talking about stopping it. i'm like, the best

like, guys, this is the best thing done. like thing you've ever done. like just sell the cards. >> it's a touch lowbrow for >> but it's a touch lowbrow for the but the museum. leo i feel old but also glad that i don't understand at all. can understand pokemon at all. can you help me? yeah, i thought it was years or something. >> everybody was running around doing one doing like, oh, there's one over here, they thing here, you know, they had a thing on the phone and hiding. collect a and it was only a pokemon. and it was only interesting one interesting when they put one in the carriageway interesting when they put one in the nerd carriageway interesting when they put one in the nerd nwander way interesting when they put one in the nerd nwander out and some nerd would wander out and some nerd would wander out and get creamed by an ice cream truck. apart from i truck. but apart from that, i don't anything it. don't know anything about it. >> found in that, >> you found some joy in that, but than i don't but other than that, no, i don't understand that at all. i know that logan paul's into and that logan paul's into it and he somehow has money of that logan paul's into it and he sorhavinghas money of that logan paul's into it and he sorhaving the money of that logan paul's into it and he sorhaving the cards.money of that logan paul's into it and he sorhaving the cards. you ey of that logan paul's into it and he sorhaving the cards. you know, of it. having the cards. you know, you have like card and then you have like a card and then loses don't know. i don't loses by i don't know. i don't understand hey , understand it at all. but hey, let's other one then in let's do this other one then in the people are the mirror. and people are ditching roll ditching toilet roll for reusable sounds like reusable rags. it sounds like something would come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith.1g would come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith. leo would come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith. leo just would come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith. leo just so would come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith. leo just so i'veiould come reusable rags. it sounds like sorwith. leo just so i've saved �*ome up with. leo just so i've saved £77 this year by ditching loo roll for rags. >> i pop them in the washing machine . says the most machine. says the most disgusting person ever. they say they've written this online with their sticky keyboard. all you needis

their sticky keyboard. all you need is a set of wipes and a zip wet bag, which you can get for around 10 to £15 in the last four years. there's no extra washing as we wash them with a reusable nappies. however if you don't use reusable nappies, they only need a quick rinse cycle. no they don't. >> you've just wipe your bum. >> you've just wipe your bum. >> these . wait, he's wiping his bum. >> or is a woman a quick rinse cycle and then you put them in with normal washing. cycle and then you put them in witibrilliant. nal washing. cycle and then you put them in witibrilliant. nal wobviously >> brilliant. well obviously your gets your washing machine, it gets full of clogged bits of full of clogged with bits of sweetcorn . and more importantly sweetcorn. and more importantly than that, what happens to your marriage? there's a note marriage? because there's a note in she says was the in here where she says was the a self esteem carry on. god knows she's talking about the saving . she's talking about the saving. and then somewhere in there she says, and that's so she tells you what the saving is. £77 a yean you what the saving is. £77 a year. obviously worth losing your dignity that. and your dignity for that. and that's and that's with my husband and guests using paper. so the guests still using paper. so the husband's into it. so husband's not into it. so imagine marriage imagine going to the marriage therapist and trying to flog, like explain what your wife's. he's into it, though. he's obviously into it, though. >> you know, some >> obviously, you know, some kind of fetish. >> it turns out it's not even environmental because use environmental because you use

hot water, there's a risk of e—coli. and then e—coli. obviously and then listen to this sentence. it can also retain stains that make the cloth undesirable to reuse. i mean , i'm so sorry to all the mean, i'm so sorry to all the 5 am. watchers and everyone a.m. watchers and everyone really watching, but there was a great show. so much to great show. thank you so much to leo the show leo and christa. the show is pretty but let's pretty much over. but let's have another look at thursday's another quick look at thursday's front the mail front pages. so the daily mail has president blasts has israeli president blasts atrocious bbc over hamas the times biden backs israel offensive . the financial times offensive. the financial times biden backs israel over hospital blasts but seeks to broker gaza aid package . the eye has aid package. the eye has mortgage hope uk's interest rate hike. unlike experts predict. the guardian , don't be consumed the guardian, don't be consumed by rage. biden tells israel. and finally , the express israel's finally, the express israel's proof it was not to blame for gaza hospital blasts. and those were the front pages . that's it were the front pages. that's it for tonight's show. join us again tomorrow at 11 pm. if you're watching at 5 am, then stay tuned for breakfast. but for now, it's good night. good

continue to flare up. >> good morning to you. it's 6:00 on thursday, the 19th of october. this is breakfast with isabel webster and stephen dixon. >> and here's what's leading the news this morning as joe biden's visit to israel fails to calm fears of a wider war. rishi sunakis fears of a wider war. rishi sunak is set to arrive in tel aviv this morning, beginning a two day visit to the region . two day visit to the region. we'll have coverage of the visit live from israel charlie live from israel with charlie peters . peters. >> with british hostages in the gaza strip and tensions boiling over throughout the region , what over throughout the region, what can british diplomacy achieve today . today. >> well, there's the fallout

from the conflict. sees