two day visit to the region. a two day visit to the region. our reporter charlie peters will have the very latest from tel aviv as rishi sunak arrives in israel. >> the question is, will he provide more support on the ground or is this just a show of solidarity ? the situation here solidarity? the situation here escalating in the region and there are hostages with british passports stuck in the gaza strip. what will sunak do? we'll have all the latest from tel aviv . aviv. >> and there's an aid crisis. the us president, joe biden says egypt will allow 20 aid trucks to cross the rafah crossing, but only if the aid doesn't reach hamas . closer to home, king hamas. closer to home, king charles issues a plea for mutual understanding in times of turmoil. the temptation to turn ourselves into a shouting or recriminating society must be resisted . resisted. >> refuge is welcome. >> refuge is welcome. >> scotland's first minister says the country is willing to take gaza refugees and there's

pressure on the uk from egypt to do so too. would you welcome a refugee? gb news presenter nigel farage will join us to give his take. >> and red weather warning the uk s brace for the impact of storm babet 70 mile an hour gusts and over one month's worth of rain could hit scotland today. we'll send one unlucky reporter there to stand outside in it . in it. and we'll see how many times we can say rare red weather warning like a tongue twister between now and midday. get in touch with us this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. first, though, here's your very latest news with rhiannon jones . rhiannon jones. >> good morning. it's coming up to 932. your top stories from the newsroom . i'm rishi sunaks the newsroom. i'm rishi sunaks arrived in israel on a two day trip to the wider region amid

growing concerns the conflict with hamas could escalate at the prime minister will hold talks with his israeli counterpart , with his israeli counterpart, benjamin netanyahu, as well as president isaac herzog. he'll be travelling to a number of other regional capitals in a diplomatic bid to prevent the fighting from spiralling. he'll also press for the route into gaza to be open for the delivery of humanitarian aid , as well as of humanitarian aid, as well as the exit of those trapped. >> there got to be here. it's an important time. it's important for me to be able to express my solidarity with the israeli people following what was a horrific terrorist attack. productive meetings ahead of us today . i'm looking fonnard to today. i'm looking fonnard to seeing the prime minister and president. of president. there's lots of work for to do. for us to do. >> asylum seekers are set to return to bibi stockholm return to the bibi stockholm today. of people were today. a number of people were taken off the barge after deadly bacteria was found on board more than two months ago. letters have been sent to asylum seekers confirmed making their return. the home office says all necessary tests have now been

completed . greta thunberg has completed. greta thunberg has joined a protest outside jp morgan in london demanding the bank stop funding fossil fuels as rac all we are rising ipso all the climate activists stood alongside fossil free london at the entrance in canary wharf. it follows tuesdays protest in mayfair at a meeting between oil executives. ms thunberg was arrested then, along with 26 others, and charged with a pubuc others, and charged with a public order offence . an and the public order offence. an and the met office has issued a rare red weather warning for heavy rainfall and severe wind for parts of scotland . storm babet parts of scotland. storm babet is forecast to cause severe flooding and risk to life. from 6 pm. this evening until tomorrow . angus and tomorrow. angus and aberdeenshire are expected to be the worst affected areas, with some schools closing power

outages are expected along with train cancellations up until . train cancellations up until. saturday and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now it's back to emily and beth . it's back to emily and beth. >> good morning. it's 934. this is beth and emily with you this morning until midday. so the prime minister has arrived in israel a two day visit israel for a two day visit before heading to the region's capital. >> us rishi sunak will touch down in israel. well, he has touched down in israel as the us president returns home from his own visit. joe biden urged israel not to be consumed by rage . rage. >> israel has been badly victimised by, you know, the truth is that if they have an opportunity to relieve suffering of people who are have nowhere to go , they're going to be.

to go, they're going to be. that's what they should do. and if they don't, they'll be held accountable. and my point to everyone is, look , if you have everyone is, look, if you have an opportunity to alleviate the pain , you should do it, period. pain, you should do it, period. and if you don't, you're going to lose credibility worldwide . to lose credibility worldwide. and so what can rishi sunak hope to achieve? >> on his visit, we're joined now by charlie peters on the ground in tel aviv. good morning, charlie . what can rishi morning, charlie. what can rishi sunak hope to achieve on this visit? simple question on. >> well, he'll want to establish more of an understanding about the situation in the gaza strip and israel's plans for that possible invasion that we've heard. nine britons are missing in israel likely held in captivity by terrorists in north gaza. they have possibly moved into the south amid those people fleeing from the north on the orders of the idf . and there orders of the idf. and there will be also a diplomatic effort

to understand the situation. there with other regional powers. we know that there are efforts going on with qatar, a mediator between those in the gaza strip and the western powers and israel, the uk has a strong connection to the qataris who have have acted in this way before on behalf of western powers recently. also the qataris . he mediated a prisoner qataris. he mediated a prisoner exchange between the ukrainians and the russians. so sort of the go to hostage exchange power in the region. and so rishi sunak will be seeking to understand and engage with those powers. but he'll also be particularly keen on the wider regional situation here. we've had unconfirmed reports in the last hour that a us military base in northern syria has been targeted by rockets from a iranian augned by rockets from a iranian aligned terrorist group. yesterday the us confirmed that to bases in iraq, al—assad and al—harir were hit by drone strikes with a us military personnel being evacuated with a traumatic brain injury. so an

escalating situation there, which is rare. escalating situation there, which is rare . we have not seen which is rare. we have not seen these sorts of strikes on us and coalition forces in the area for some time . if coalition forces in the area for some time. if you cast your mind back to january 2020 when donald trump ordered the strike on quds force commander qassem soleimani, a general in the iranian islamic revolutionary guard corps that set off a wave of drone strikes and missile strikes on american bases and coalition bases in the region . coalition bases in the region. that led also to the death of a british soldier, a medic posted in northern iraq. and as we're seeing these strikes occurring again, not at the same rate seen since that time, i think that rishi sunak will be urgently trying to understand how to quell those raising tensions in the region. but i have to say from israel, it doesn't look like they are likely to go down anytime soon. the arab powers this morning are resolute in their understanding of what happened on tuesday night in north gaza , where that was that north gaza, where that was that reported hospital explosion. the israelis have explained that

what they believe happened there, their evidence been there, their evidence has been put yesterday by the us put fonnard. yesterday by the us intelligence agencies and joe biden came out in support of the israeli side. the british are still checking and this morning the security minister, tom tugendhat, said waiting tugendhat, said they are waiting until have a very clear until they have a very clear picture situation action. picture of the situation action. so will they stand by israel in their assessment of that attack? will that help britain to engage with the arab powers? these questions still need to be asked, but british lives at risk and british interests very much at risk throughout israel and the wider region. a very precarious situation here for the prime minister >> okay, thank you, charlie. can ijust >> okay, thank you, charlie. can i just ask you one quick question? what is life like in israel at the moment in tel aviv? is it relatively peaceful? are there people going about their business visiting cafes , their business visiting cafes, restaurants, shops, etcetera . restaurants, shops, etcetera. >> there's not an awful lot about that . it's quite hard to about that. it's quite hard to be peaceful when rocket attacks are so regular on central israel. people are on a state of

high alert and yesterday was relatively quiet until about 7 pm. when joe biden left , where pm. when joe biden left, where suddenly there was a flurry of rocket attacks. we spent a couple of hours in and out of the bomb shelters here. no this isn't a happy place. this is not a of peace and restaurants a place of peace and restaurants and cafes. people are also and cafes. people here are also returning the frontlines returning from the frontlines and they're also returning from the atrocities committed on october 7th in the south october the 7th in the south last night, the israelis arrested another terrorist in the south of israel. they haven't secured the entire haven't yet secured the entire country. it seems people here are traumatised and also fear what is going to come next. could they be struck by lebanese hezbollah? could more rockets land central city? land in this central city? concerns are very high. >> okay . all right. thank you, >> okay. all right. thank you, charlie. we'll come back to you later. it's interesting, though, because to because i was talking to somebody yesterday who came back from were from tel aviv and they were saying actually know saying that actually they know roughly might be a roughly when there might be a missile coming or they get a warning they running warning or that they are running out the time they out of speed by the time they land the area. but actually, land in the area. but actually, people aren't visiting cafes and restaurants the risk people aren't visiting cafes and res low 'ants the risk people aren't visiting cafes and res low on,; the risk

people aren't visiting cafes and res low on, wolf, the risk people aren't visiting cafes and res low on, wolf, hamashe risk of low on, wolf, hamas terrorists just coming into a pubuc terrorists just coming into a public place. maybe with a weapon some kind. we're going public place. maybe with a webe)n some kind. we're going public place. maybe with a we be talking me kind. we're going public place. maybe with a webe talking ins kind. we're going public place. maybe with a webe talking in a:ind. we're going public place. maybe with a webe talking in a moment'e going public place. maybe with a webe talking in a moment aboutg to be talking in a moment about whether you think that rishi sunak be there we sunak should be there today. we are have a little are going to have a little debate that as well. we've debate about that as well. we've got foster is going to be got arlene foster is going to be joining us a moment as joining us in just a moment as well to talk about that. but let us know at what think. us know at home what you think. gb at gb news. com gb views at gb news. com yes. >> well, last night at >> well, speaking last night at a in the city of london, a dinner in the city of london, king charles stressed the importance of mutual understanding importance of mutual understheseg importance of mutual understhese turbulent times. as during these turbulent times. as one of first acts as one of my first acts as sovereign, a little over a year ago open the doors of ago was to open the doors of buckingham palace to the leaders of the faiths represented of the major faiths represented across these islands to welcome them with respect and indeed love, and to rededicate my life to protect the space for faith itself within our shores . itself within our shores. >> such understanding ing both at home and overseas, is never

more vital than at times of international turmoil and heartbreaking loss of life . heartbreaking loss of life. >> well, somebody who knows a lot about religious division and times of trauma is arlene foster, a former leader of the dup. morning, arlene. good to see you. just from a sort of the fate of humanity point of view, given your experience and your history and your understanding of troubles in northern ireland, what do you make of events of this week ? this week? >> well, you know, sometimes the human loss gets lost and all of the diplomacy and the chat about what happens next, you know, people have moved on. i understand when you're in politics, looking at the politics, you're looking at the bigger picture you're trying to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. ture you're trying to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. but you're trying to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. but i ou're trying to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. but i was> trying to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. but i was just ng to politics, you're looking at the biggeout. but i was just really work out. but i was just really struck morning when i was struck this morning when i was going through twitter and i noficed going through twitter and i noticed a tweet from israel where a young boy, probably around ten, had just buried his mom and dad and his two sisters, his entire family were wiped out by hamas and here he was alone at the funeral. i just think that's incredible, the skill ,

that's incredible, the skill, the barbarity, the savagery of what happened on that saturday. it's just incredible. and we're still finding things out about it . people are still being held it. people are still being held hostage. i think up to eight people from the uk are being held hostage in in gaza at this present moment in time in the house of commons and the house of lords. it's really all anybody wants to speak about at the moment. people are really very concerned about the hostages that are there, the trauma they're going trauma that they're going through. shouldn't lose through. so we shouldn't lose that humanity piece. and obviously that's the case for those who have lost loved ones in israel and of course, what's happening in gaza at this present in time as well. present moment in time as well. >> i ask you about >> arlene, can i ask you about the situation here? we just heard from charles saying heard from king charles saying that we need, well, essentially harmony and unity between religions across the world. but here the uk , most here in the uk, most importantly, front page of the times morning, simcox times this morning, robin simcox . he's a commissioner for countering extremism. he said britain has become a permissive environment for anti—israel extremism and anti—semitism

because of mass migration and poor integration . how does any poor integration. how does any government begin to deal with that? >> and the interesting thing is he's an independent it commissioner, so he's not part of the government structure. he's independent. he is going to say today that he's concerned about extremism here in the uk. he's worried about what's going to happen domestically here in terms of terrorism and that's actually echoed by the head of mi5, ken mccallum, who's actually meeting his five eyes partners, the united states, canada, australia and america and new zealand at the at the minute. and they're having discussions about intelligence. and that's reassuring for me that that's going on. but what ken mccallum is actually saying is it has always been the case that of would be terrorists that lots of would be terrorists in the uk draw inspiration through their distorted understanding of what is happening in other countries. so there's a real concern in intelligence at the moment about what's going to happen here in the uk and i'm not alarming

people, but i think they should be reassured that we're keeping an eye these would be an eye on these would be terrorists we're alert to terrorists and we're alert to the risk. >> do you think we need to bear that mind also in this that in mind also in this conversation, this debate conversation, in this debate that to coming our way? that seems to be coming our way? well, started already about well, it started already about whether should whether we should accept refugees gaza. do you worry refugees from gaza. do you worry there that there is a national security risk if we were to do that? >> well, i think the national security risk has to be front and centre because the first duty of government is to protect its and therefore we its citizens and therefore we have be concerned have to be concerned about people coming from other jurisdictions there are jurisdictions already there are people the uk who would seek people in the uk who would seek to cause violence and who would seek to be terrorists and therefore we should be concerned about others who would come in as of course we want to as well. of course we want to help. course we want to have help. of course we want to have humanitarian concern people humanitarian concern for people across the world and to be a leader in this respect. however we do need to look after our own people as well. >> sunak obviously is >> rishi sunak obviously is there and i, emily there today. arlene and i, emily and i slightly disagree on this because i see no real reason for him to be there. i don't want

payers money being spent on him being there. i don't the being there. i don't want the israeli authorities to have to protect him when they have rather a lot to deal with at the moment anyway. does he need to be your opinion? be there in your opinion? >> does need to be there >> yes, he does need to be there because taking because it's about taking a leadership role in the world for the recall when the uk. and you'll recall when the uk. and you'll recall when the ukrainian war started and i'm sure president zelenskyy is concerned at the moment, there's a lot of attention on the middle east, not much talk about ukraine at this present moment in sure he's worried in time. i'm sure he's worried about that's one of the about that. that's one of the opportunity of what's opportunity costs of what's happening the middle east. happening in the middle east. it's taking leadership it's about taking a leadership role. sunak has been very role. rishi sunak has been very clear about his condemnation of terrorism. now he's going to try and use his office to broker some sort of moving fonnard peace. and i think that is important that the uk why do we need but so important though, to show that solidarity with israel alone in the middle east as a state under attack from a terrorist organisation. >> it's so important that rishi sunak shows that we are in

solidarity with them. >> i think he can do that from here, though. i so just why do we need why do we, the uk needs to take a leadership role in this situation in the middle east, take a leadership role in anything. >> i mean the fact of the matter is, if we want our nation to be at the forefront, then we need our leaders. >> forefront what, though? >> forefront of what, though? >> forefront of what, though? >> forefront of leading in >> the forefront of leading in the i don't want the world. i mean, i don't want to be a second rate country. i want our leader to go out and say, we're to help. we are say, we're here to help. we are the bastion of standing up for liberal democracy. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> are standing terrorism >> we are standing terrorism against globally against terrorism globally because we know only because we know not only internationally is it right to stand up against terrorism as well. >> you see, here's the thing. >> you see, here's the thing. >> here's the thing. we are broke. we have nothing in the coffers at the moment here. people are extremely concerned about domestic matters at the moment. and the fact that we don't seem to be able to get a handle on anything from an economic with economic point of view with the with fuel bills going up, with the fuel bills going up, i'm just not sure there's the appetite to rishi sunak

appetite to see rishi sunak going over there and doing what exactly . i would presume that exactly. i would presume that everything that could be done from a diplomatic point of view could be done here. >> no, wrong because >> no, we are wrong because politics the art of looking politics is the art of looking people eye and having people in the eye and having those conversations. and actually the big actually it's not the big conferences about conferences that bring about peace. it's the conversations over coffee, how conversations over a coffee, how conversations that how we find a way to that how can we find a way to make this right? and that happens in face to face dialogue. >> this this issue is so entrenched. this is so you can you can say the same about northern ireland. >> it's entrenched. northern ireland. >>it's entrenched. mean, northern ireland. >> have entrenched. mean, northern ireland. >> have t01trenched. mean, northern ireland. >> have to find ched. mean, northern ireland. >> have to find solutions. ean, northern ireland. >> have to find solutions. you you have to find solutions. you have optimistic. and if have to keep optimistic. and if you're a politician, it's about the the possible. so the art of the possible. so despite all of the horrific things that have happened in israel, the that israel, despite the fact that families have been wiped out by hamas, we have to look fonnard. also, i think, to find a solution. >> it's important for families solution. >>this important for families solution. >>this country|nt for families solution. >>this country who ir families solution. >>this country who maylilies solution. >>this country who may have in this country who may have missing missing children, missing missing children, missing relatives in israel. it's just fundamentally important what he will achieve in terms of policy, we don't know. but we saw how president

biden seems to have helped out with in terms of humanitarian aid, in terms of opening that border, although i don't believe it's been opened yet, but moving in that direction in. no, you're not convinced , are you, ben? not convinced, are you, ben? >> i just i just i just when you're in a situation where the world is against you and israel often finds itself in that situation, they need others to come in and help them to move in a particular direction. >> so make the issue >> so you make the issue a bigger issue that it's not just israel, others are worried israel, that others are worried about happening in the about what's happening in the region. and i think the uk and the us have a huge role to play in helping us move fonnard and i absolutely agree that our prime minister needs to be there . minister needs to be there. >> okay. well, it's fascinating and as i say, nobody knows more about these sorts of difficult conflicts, arlene, than you do and how to to how navigate them going fonnard. i'd love to know what think at home. gb views what you think at home. gb views yes, very interested to see yes, i am very interested to see whether divides my inbox. whether this divides my inbox. >> just think divide the >> i just think divide the

british public want rishi sunak to be dealing with what's happening here whilst supporting. >> i do believe the jewish communities fully in this country. i to see him country. i want to see him visiting jewish schools, synagogues that for me will be how he shows his support. >> you can do both, right? >> you can do both, right? >> time for me to leave. lovely, lovely to see you, arlene. >> arlene, right. >> as by arlene, right. >> as by arlene, right. >> mps are demanding >> 60 tory mps are demanding that sadiq khan bans protests at the after the the cenotaph after the pro—palestine activists sparked outrage last weekend. >> a stage for the >> yes, a stage for the palestine campaign palestine solidarity campaign and including jeremy and speakers, including jeremy corbyn, placed directly next corbyn, was placed directly next to the memorial for britain's war dead . that was on saturday. war dead. that was on saturday. >> so joined now by >> so we're joined now by immigration lawyer ivan sams. son. good morning, ivan. good to see you, as always . do you think see you, as always. do you think it was appropriate that that memorial that the state for these speakers, this proposal , these speakers, this proposal, epstein rally, was allowed to take place directly upon actually not even next to the memorial , actually not even next to the memorial, but the stage was built around the cenotaph , a built around the cenotaph, a statue against fascism . statue against fascism. >> i think there's a balance

between the rights of freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, protected by article 12 of the convention, and then those who do do acts that incite violence or hatred towards others. so there is a balance. but i do think we have strong enough laws to prosecute those that do that , to prosecute those that do that, and we should allow people to have free speech and to demonstrate othennise , you demonstrate othennise, you attack the very basis of our democracy. >> ivan, do you think we should be concerned, though, as a society to see foreign conflicts that mobilise people in this way on our streets in the uk? it's very troubling to many people . very troubling to many people. look we live in a multicultural society . society. >> we especially in london. so if you if you expect people who come from different backgrounds, different countries not to be affected by what's going on in

their own country, i think we're being a bit naive. i think people are in protest where they've got family members there and they've got reason to protest . protest. >> we had suella braverman recently home secretary saying that actually multiculturalism has not worked in this country . has not worked in this country. some would say that these protests are another demonstration of that. it is more division on the streets of london. >> i mean, i disagree . look at >> i mean, i disagree. look at our cabinet. i mean, that's an effect of multiculturalism in this country . this country. >> ivan. i would argue that that is the effect of good integration into british society. the problem that we're seeing and what suella braverman i believe was highlighting was the examples like what we're seeing now , a division between seeing now, a division between jewish communities being targeted by other communities is in this country. that was the concern. so, yes, people from ethnic minorities are able to get to the top of society, which is fantastic. but that doesn't mean there aren't conflicts

bubbung mean there aren't conflicts bubbling under the surface . and bubbling under the surface. and we see them on the surface, don't we, with this kind of thing. >> i think the rhetoric of suella braverman few pulled pours fuel on these conflicts . i pours fuel on these conflicts. i think the role of the government is to bring communities together and recently justin welby held a conference with the jewish leaders , the muslim leaders and leaders, the muslim leaders and other of other faiths. and that's what the government should be doing . instead of should be doing. instead of ramping up the rhetoric divisive of comments of the home secretary , it's not helpful either. >> we obviously, when the ukraine invasion happened and the british people opened their doors to ukrainian refugees , it doors to ukrainian refugees, it was a very, very successful system. there are similar calls now to welcome refugees from gaza. do you think that would be

a good idea ? yeah, i do. a good idea? yeah, i do. >> i do think it's a very good because it's a safe legal route that we've been calling for the last two years. so i mean, we should take our fair share of refugees when these conflicts occur around the world. >> ivan, sorry to interrupt, but the counter to that is that it is a terrorist hotspot , not in is a terrorist hotspot, not in gaza, and that there could be the potential for national security concerns here as a result of taking people from gaza. result of taking people from gaza . also arab countries nearby gaza. also arab countries nearby seem to be closing their doors as well. i think you'd struggle to get popularity in this country for that kind of policy. ivan >> well, it's not always about popularity, is it? it's about doing the right thing. well, i'm sorry, but the government is there to serve serve the uk people, is it not? yes and apply the laws so if somebody is a

genuine refugee and wants to claim asylum here, we should have safe routes to do that. look, lebanon has 22% of its population as refugees , so we population as refugees, so we have no point 6. we i mean, it's just a complete lie to say we've been overrun with refugees . it's been overrun with refugees. it's just simply not true. >> okay. we could have potentially a million people displaced, of course, from palestine. we're going to have to bring this up with you another day. ivan, we've run out of time. i'm so sorry. still to come today. good to see you, ivan. we're going to be joined by nigel farage for his take on whether we should our doors whether we should open our doors to refugees. is to these refugees. this is britain's newsroom. >> it's mcgivern >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. storm babet through today, babet moves north through today, bringing weather babet moves north through today, brimany weather babet moves north through today, brimany places. weather babet moves north through today, brimany places. but weather babet moves north through today, brimany places. but truly eather to many places. but truly exceptional eastern exceptional rainfall to eastern scotland risk of scotland with the risk of widespread and significant flooding. why is flooding. that's why there is a red warning for later today and into tomorrow for eastern scotland . the rain setting in scotland. the rain setting in dunng scotland. the rain setting in during the next few hours and it remains heavy and persistent

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>> good morning. it's10 a.m. >> good morning. it's10 am. on thursday, the 19th of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, emily carver and bev turner. so sunak in israel, the prime minister has landed in the prime minister has landed in the middle east this morning for a two day visit to the region. aid to arrive. the us president

joe biden says egypt will allow 20 aid trucks to cross the rafah crossing, but only if the aid doesn't reach hamas . closer to doesn't reach hamas. closer to home, king charles issues a plea for mutual understanding in times of turmoil. the temptation to turn ourselves into a shouting or recriminate society must be resisted . must be resisted. >> refugees welcome. scotland's first minister says the country is willing to take gaza refugee fees and there is pressure on the uk from egypt to do the to do the same. so would you welcome a refugee into your home? gb news presenter nigel farage will join us shortly to give us his take and the bibi barges back after a string of false starts. >> the home office is now expected to return asylum seekers to the accommodation vessel has the latest i >> yes, -- >> yes, i'll be live all morning from portland in dorset, where we're expecting the first of the refugees to return to the bibby stockholm in the next couple of

hours . hours. >> and if you're watching on tv, i'm missing that delightful weather where jeff moody is this morning . we've got some terrible morning. we've got some terrible weather coming with stormy brett. to be brett. we're going to be discussing as well. get in discussing that as well. get in touch with us, gbviews@gbnews.com. we're also discussing whether rishi sunak should be in the middle east. do you to be there or does you want him to be there or does he more important matters he have more important matters at deal with? at home to deal with? vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. here's address. first though, here's rhiannon jones with your . news rhiannon jones with your. news >> good morning. it's 10:01. >> good morning. it's10:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom. rishi sunak arrived in israel on a two day trip to the wider region amid growing concerns the conflict with hamas could escalate. the prime minister will hold talks with his israeli counterpart , his israeli counterpart, benjamin netanyahu, as well as president isaac herzog . he'll be

president isaac herzog. he'll be travelling to a number of other regional capitals in a diplomatic bid to prevent the fighting from spiralling. he'll also press for the route into gaza to be open for the delivery of humanitarian aid, as well as the safe exit of those trapped in the territory to be here. >> it's an important time. it's important for me to be able to express my solidarity with the israeli people following what was a horrific terrorist attack . was a horrific terrorist attack. productive meetings ahead of us today. i'm looking fonnard to seeing the prime minister and president. of work seeing the prime minister and pre us ent. of work seeing the prime minister and pre us entdo of work seeing the prime minister and pre us entdo . of work for us to do. >> his visit follows that of us president joe biden , who says president joe biden, who says egypt's president sisi has agreed to open the rafah crossing to allow trucks of aid into gaza. a warning some viewers may find the following images distressing. the un has warned that life saving aid for those trapped in gaza is vital as palestine indians dig survivors out of rubble and search for safety. benjamin

netanyahu , who says he won't netanyahu, who says he won't stop food , water and medicine stop food, water and medicine from being delivered to civilians in the south, but that there will be no humanitarian aid from israel without the return of hostages . meanwhile, return of hostages. meanwhile, the airstrikes continue. the gaza health ministry says almost 3500 palestinians have been killed in just over 12,000 injured. so far. security minister tom tugendhat told gb news peace for the palestinians is paramount. >> but i think we've got to recognise the first victims of hamas are the palestinian people. we've seen people in gaza over the last 30 or 40 years is not just murdered. when hamas took power in 2008, nine, but actually since then being exploited in the most horrific ways . we've seen children being ways. we've seen children being forced to dig these tunnels that sadly have been dug across the entire region. we've seen individuals who have stood against hamas in various different ways being murdered . different ways being murdered. >> the foreign secretary's held

talks with his egyptian counterpart to discuss the ongoing situation in gaza. james cleverly visited israel last week and will to travel turkey and qatar over the coming days to discuss the conflict and seek a peaceful resolution. the uk says the three countries are vital to international efforts to uphold regional stability, free hostages and allow humanitarian access to gaza . in humanitarian access to gaza. in other news back here, asylum seekers are set to return to the bibby stockholm later. a number of people were taken off the barge after deadly bacteria was found on board more than two months ago. food supplies have now been delivered and letters sent to asylum seekers confirming their return. the home office says all necessary tests have now been completed . tests have now been completed. the met office has described new facial recognition technology to catch prolific shoplifters as game changing in a pilot of the

new software , 12 retailers new software, 12 retailers provided images of 30 of the worst offenders when compared with the forces custody shots. almost half came up as positive matches . those offenders are now matches. those offenders are now being investigated with a view to build criminal cases. the software uses biometric measures of a person face even if it's partly covered. greta thunberg has joined a protest outside jp morgan in london demanding the bank stop funding fossil fuels . bank stop funding fossil fuels. all right, so are we rac? >> so are we. >> so are we. >> yes, i'm attacked . this >> yes, i'm attacked. this joined fossil free london at the entrance in canary wharf. it follows tuesday's protest in mayfair. outside a meeting between oil executives, members , between oil executives, members, stenberg was arrested along with 26 others, and charged with a pubuc 26 others, and charged with a public order offence . and the public order offence. and the met office has issued a rare red

weather warning for heavy rainfall and severe wind for parts of scotland. storm babet is forecast to cause severe flooding and risk to life from 6 pm. this evening until tomorrow. angus and aberdeenshire are expected to be the worst affected areas with some schools closing . power some schools closing. power outages are expected along with train cancellations until . train cancellations until. saturday this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car and digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back over to bev and . emily >> good morning. it's 1006 emily >> good morning. it's1006 now. we've been asking you whether you think rishi sunak should be going out to israel and you've been emailing at home. thank you so much. jane has said we don't need a leader in world events that know enough about. that we don't know enough about. stay other people's wars. stay out of other people's wars. we have problems here. sort them out. >> yes. but another jane decided

to agree while she agrees with me and arlene, she says it's very important for great britain and america to show allegiance to israel. and try to look after those who are held trapped those who are held and trapped in the terrorists. and in gaza by the terrorists. and alan says , of course, sunak alan says, of course, sunak needs to be in israel . he needs needs to be in israel. he needs to show support to the israeli government people the government people and the relatives people relatives of israeli people living in the uk. he's surprised. you're surprised. bev, you're questioning it. >> like surprising people . >> i like surprising people. that's right. goes on to say , that's right. he goes on to say, the enormity what hamas has the enormity of what hamas has done jaw dropping can have done is jaw dropping can have a catastrophic effect on world peace. couldn't agree more. peace. i couldn't agree more. it's , rick. we to it's horrific, rick. we have to remember that remember the events that happened october happened on saturday, october the a way, we're the seventh. in a way, we're sort ahead that sort of moving ahead with that and haven't really the and we still haven't really the jewish community are expected to just to talk about just move on now to talk about war, brutality of that day. war, the brutality of that day. but says, good morning, butjulius says, good morning, gb news great to see arlene on giving her thoughts at brilliant interview. thank you. the pm should be an israeli has to show himself support and joanne says we shouldn't leading this we shouldn't be leading this middle we've been middle east fight. we've been let safety at let down badly. our safety is at risk it's naive for our

risk and it's naive for our leaders to pretend othennise. >> can i just one more >> can i just say one more thing, i think he's spot thing, phil? i think he's spot on it's absolutely on here. he says it's absolutely right rishi to israel. right for rishi to go to israel. the symbolism show of the symbolism and show of support everything. means the symbolism and show of sthell't everything. means the symbolism and show of s1hell of everything. means the symbolism and show of s1hell of aeverything. means the symbolism and show of s1hell of a lotything. means the symbolism and show of s1hell of a lot t01ing. means the symbolism and show of s1hell of a lot to the means the symbolism and show of s1hell of a lot to the israelis,|s a hell of a lot to the israelis, and that's what gets me. that's why i'm in favour of him being there. why i'm in favour of him being thewell, why i'm in favour of him being the well, prepare to be proven >> well, i prepare to be proven wrong, as i always do, but keep your emails coming in so the prime minister arrived prime minister has arrived in israel two visit israel for this two day visit before to regional capitals. >> but what can he actually do? well, we're going to go live now to charlie tel aviv. good to charlie in tel aviv. good morning, charlie . for people who morning, charlie. for people who are just tuning in, just after 10:00 on thursday morning, what is sunak hoping to achieve is rishi sunak hoping to achieve ? is as of our viewers ? is it, as one of our viewers has said, merely or primarily a symbolic act to have him there representing the uk ? i think representing the uk? i think a significant portion of this visit is one of solidarity, much of what israel needs. >> britain can not provide. since this war started , there since this war started, there has been a rise in british

military capabilities in the area and they are using maritime patrol aircraft, spy planes over the region to support with the israeli war effort, particularly over the gaza strip. but there are also uk interests, obviously fully engaged here in particular, those hostages in the gaza strip. some nine britons missing since the start of this war. that will be a key focus of the british diplomatic effort. and rishi sunak will be raising that directly with israeli political leaders. there is also engagement with the qataris who are understood to be acting as mediators between hamas in the gaza strip and the west in powers and other nations that have people under captivity in hamas, some 40 nationalities understood to be under captivity . and the israelis this morning raised the number of hostages in the gaza strip to 203, a very significant number in this unprecedented wave of violence. but there is also diplomatic relations here regarding the humanitarian situation , as mr humanitarian situation, as mr sunakisin

humanitarian situation, as mr sunak is in jerusalem, meeting with those israeli leaders , as with those israeli leaders, as james cleverly, the foreign secretary right now is meeting with his counterparts in egypt, where they will no doubt be discussing the crossing of humanitarian aid egypt humanitarian aid from egypt through that rafah crossing into gaza , where the idf said gaza, where the idf said yesterday that they had established humanitarian safe established a humanitarian safe zone off the coast in al—mannah rc, some kilometres east of the younis khan centre , where there younis khan centre, where there has been significant bombing and a humanitarian crisis, with people fleeing from the north to the south. those are the main focuses of british diplomacy today. but when it comes to actual direct action and support of israeli war effort, of the israeli war effort, that's really more washington's bag . bag. >> okay. thank you very much , >> okay. thank you very much, charlie. we'll be going back to charlie. we'll be going back to charlie live as this story develops. of course, today we are joined in the studio by gb news presenter and conservative mp for tatton, esther mcvey. esther, to you. right. esther, great to see you. right. what's your position on this? whether rishi sunak should be there not, i think you there or not, i think you probably what you're going probably know what you're going to no, i absolutely he

>> no, i absolutely believe he should you're talking should be there. you're talking about western about solidarity. western leaders standing together against of terrorism. but against acts of terrorism. but it's more than that. against acts of terrorism. but it's more than that . and these it's more than that. and these face to face meetings can get into. how about the humanity in support? what you're going to do there can talk about there? they can also talk about how the ground invasion needs to be news announced. so i think they are vital . they are vital. >> but surely there are teams that we don't know of diplomatic teams behind the scenes who are having those conversations. actions without rishi sunak necessarily have to be having to be there. oh yes. >> always need the leader >> you always need the leader there of course the teams will be there. show you be there. but to show that you mean yes, it's mean it. and yes, it's exhausting for a prime minister to meet people, which he did to meet the people, which he did in country. all those in this country. all those communities to schools. but communities go to schools. but to there is important. communities go to schools. but to are there is important. communities go to schools. but to are trusted important. communities go to schools. but to are trusted allies tant. communities go to schools. but to are trusted allies ,int. communities go to schools. but to are trusted allies , guys these are trusted allies, guys who can possibly be a restraining influence in one way, who can negotiate with other people . and you saw after other people. and you saw after the attack on the hospital that jordan summit was cancelled and we need those arab leaders

around the table. so you know, i think that rishi's diary will be fluid because he'll be trying to get those people back together. he'll be wanting to speak to the leader, the president of egypt. he'll be wanting to speak to jordan. the leaders there, and maybe the palestinian leader , maybe the palestinian leader, too, because you're going to have to see how do we move on and get a path to peace knowing his character is that does that play his character is that does that play to his strengths? >> yes, it does. >> yes, it does. >> actually. is more of a >> actually. he is far more of a diplomat that he he's not a what some people might think of a very outspoken as boris was leader. he's not he's the absolute opposite to that. he is much more of a diplomat. diplomacy comes easy to him . he diplomacy comes easy to him. he listens as much as he speaks . listens as much as he speaks. and that will be needed . and that will be needed. >> and of course, the missing brits, i believe it is nine brits, i believe it is nine brits that are still missing, thought to perhaps be taken into gaza as hostages or whatever else. but that will obviously come up in conversations .

come up in conversations. >> it will be israel. >> it will be israel. >> it will be israel. >> it will be all of the hostages. how do you go about to get those releases? how do you make sure we move to peace rather than making the incident even more serious than it is ? even more serious than it is? >> esther, can i ask you about something that is very controversial, but it is on the minds of many of our viewers and listeners, the idea of taking refugees gaza . in my mind, refugees from gaza. in my mind, national security in this country must come first, especially considering some arab nafions especially considering some arab nations are very much closing their doors . their doors. >> so what are your question being well , should we accept being well, should we accept refugees from gaza ? well, i refugees from gaza? well, i actually don't think we should be. i do think those closest like egypt should be looking to take the refugees in. i look at the incidents at home. we're saying at the moment we're 4 million homes short for the people who are in the uk. million homes short for the people who are in the uk . we people who are in the uk. we have taken in and rightly so.

we've supported people , whether we've supported people, whether it's from syria, whether it's from afghanistan , iran, whether from afghanistan, iran, whether it's from hong kong , whether it's from hong kong, whether it's from hong kong, whether it's from hong kong, whether it's from ukraine. we have opened our doors. but i think on this , for instance, think this, for instance, i think we're to have to say, no, we're going to have to say, no, we're going to have to say, no, we i think that's we can't. and i think that's something else rishi needs to do. do believe the arab states do. i do believe the arab states need to be doing more in the region. and i think egypt should be looking to take in the refugees from gaza. >> i mean, egypt's have basically said we're not it. and they said, you know, so why should the uk? well, this is the question, it? and think question, isn't it? and i think one things that this one of the things that this particular has brought particular conflict has brought home is how of those home to me is how few of those arab do take other arab arab states do take other arab refugees, how few people they do take. and when we are incredibly generous, you know , and actually generous, you know, and actually how do we put more pressure on those arab countries to take more people who are in need, vast, populated vast, not densely populated countries that have incredible wealth and natural resources , wealth and natural resources, and yet they don't appear to be as welcoming to people like those who will be leaving from

from gaza as we are. from gala as we are. >> from gaza as we are. >> and that, again , is the >> and that, again, is the diplomacy or the nudging along in a certain direction that rishi will need to do while he's out there. but it wasn't just him, you know, biden has helped. i do believe that the opening of the rafah entrance from egypt to get humanitarian aid over. so i think each person who goes along, each leader from the western world, should try and push this in in a way. >> now, esther, another thing that's concerning people and i just want to put this quote to you, really. this is a commissioner for countering extremism on the front of the times says britain has become a permissive environment for anti—israel extremism and anti —semitism. anti—israel extremism and anti—semitism. and he says this is because of mass immigration and poor integration . would you and poor integration. would you agree with that assessment ? agree with that assessment? >> i think we've got to make sure and this has been raised many times about the integrate question. you know, if you're going to have a and people

understand multiculture tourism in very different ways, but if you are going to accept people, there is an obligation on people who come to this country also to integrate with the culture of this country too. so we've got to make sure we do that. but equally, that's another reason i think rishi needs us to be out in israel . well, speaking and in israel. well, speaking and negotiating and using this diplomacy out there because it does have impacts back at home as we see the different communities being how can we say stirred up? i mean, hamas plan this war for two years when hamas went in an and court attacked it brutally, did a terrorist attack on israel. don't tell me they didn't know what the repercussions was going to be from israel to the people in gaza , and yet they went ahead in gaza, and yet they went ahead with it. they knew israel would use its military might to stop what went on and it went ahead. so i think they are playing a very canny game . the world needs very canny game. the world needs to wake up because we are all

integrated societies and we don't need our own people turning on one another through the grief. absolutely through the grief. absolutely through the death that they're seeing . the death that they're seeing. >> and on that issue, do you think it was appropriate for sadiq give permission to sadiq khan to give permission to the which the protests, which are the celebrations cenotaph at celebrations at the cenotaph at the weekend and with with a warning from the organiser of that that this will happen every single war single weekend until the war ends ? ends? >> we are a fair and open >> look, we are a fair and open country and we do allow people to express themselves freely. it is if you go above and beyond expressing your sympathies and your upset to actually trying to evoke some sort of reaction or exacerbate the situation, that we have to stop it. and that's why i do believe rishi needs to be out there trying to get some diplomatic solutions, because that's what the world needs. >> do you think he should be saying london mayor, saying to the london mayor, sadiq khan, you cannot have these protests every single weekend bringing the centre of london standstill and

london to a standstill and having celebrating what having people celebrating what was we have to draw a distinction between the peace loving palestinian people and hamas. i know that's important, but he saying to him, but should he be saying to him, you can't have these protests every weekend cenotaph ? every weekend on the cenotaph? >> well have to say >> we might well have to say that equally , we, the police, that equally, we, the police, need to feel emboldened that if people are not doing a peaceful protest , but if people are protest, but if people are trying to excite and incite some sort of hatred, they need to be closed down. >> and 60, 60 conservative mps are demanding just that, that sadiq khan bans these protests around the cenotaph. >> so we'll see what comes of that. >> esther, good to see you. thank you so much. you're on telly at the weekend . telly at the weekend. >> i am 10 to 12 with my other half on saturday morning here on gb news. >> now, still to come, we're going to be asking nigel farage if that britain should if he thinks that britain should take of the 1 million take in any of the 1 million people fleeing gaza. are gb people fleeing gaza. we are gb news britain's channel .

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 9.30 on . sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news. >> well, it is 1022. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with me, emily carver and bev turner. we're currently looking at pictures of sderot on the left and on the right, the lebanon border. as you can see, all seems quite still apart from all seems quite still apart from a plume of smoke. you can see there by the lebanon border. we're going to be bringing you

all updates as they come all the updates as they come from israel, from gaza, as they happen. >> that's right. and also, of course, rishi sunak is there today. we may be taking some footage of him at live throughout morning. so throughout the morning. so scotland's minister, scotland's first minister, humza yousaf, is willing to yousaf, said he is willing to take refugees and there's take gaza refugees and there's pressure egypt uk pressure from egypt for the uk to the some would say to do the same. some would say it's moral duty. course. it's our moral duty. of course. >> you welcome a gaza >> so would you welcome a gaza refugee into your home? we did so with ukrainian refugees. we're joined by gb news own nigel farage to discuss this. nigel farage to discuss this. nigel your thoughts. what do you make of humza yousaf's comments that scotland is open to refugees from gaza ? refugees from gaza? >> well, it might for be him, but i don't suppose for one moment is the majority of scottish people. i mean, look , scottish people. i mean, look, since the brexit referendum we've taken in over half a million. they've come syria, they've come and they've come from hong kong , they've come from hong kong, they've come from hong kong, they've come from ukraine and we keep being told, well, these are exceptional circumstances. well here's yet another exceptional circumstance. so firstly , in

circumstance. so firstly, in terms of sheer numbers, i think we've just got to say enough's enough. and secondly, isn't it interesting that egypt won't take any refugees from gaza ? do take any refugees from gaza? do you know why? because they don't want to import terrorism into egypt, just as saudi arabia didn't take a single person after the syrian conflict. so if there neighbours are not prepared to take any, i frankly don't see why we should do so. and you know, when you get this morning an independent report chap you know a line to the home office independent says we already have a problem as a result of integration being poor because of mass migration . well, because of mass migration. well, how many more people do we want marching on the streets of london, demonstrating ? there is london, demonstrating? there is actually a cultural element to this that i think is very important. so we've always been a very generous country, but if the rest of the arab states aren't prepared to help, why on earth could we? >> nigel i think it's really

important as well to point out that most muslims who live in this country are peaceful. they are they are kind people. they don't wish any harm on other people. but we have failed perhaps to recognise a sort of existential racial threat. you might say, of radical extremist muslim jihadi and the threat that they pose to a western way of life here. who would you hold culpable for that which could at best be perhaps naivety, maybe if we're being generous, who do you lay the blame? blair to some degree , yeah. degree, yeah. >> not your viewers . not your >> not your viewers. not your viewers. the labour and conservative parties who lie to the british public at every and it's a strong word, but mean it. they lie to the british public at every general election telling them numbers coming into britain, sheer numbers coming into britain will be under control and will go down. and we're now at record levels of legal net migration in huge

numbers. as i've said already, of refugees coming in since 2016. and that's before you even start to talk about the young men from very different cultures crossing the english channel. we have , i mean, the first duty of have, i mean, the first duty of a british government is to put the safety and security of the country and its own people first. and if you allow millions of people in who come from cultures that are very different from ours, with whom we have very little in common, it's no surprise that we've got these massive problems of integration . massive problems of integration. >> nigel, i just want to ask you whether you believe politicians have forgotten who they're working for. surely when it comes to immigration policy, it should be about what the british people want and need and national secured pretty should be top of the government's agenda for someone like humza yousaf, it appears that he is more concerned about supposed international humanitarian duties, but not really

necessarily about what the scottish people want. >> i mean , frankly, there is no >> i mean, frankly, there is no issue on which our main political parties all around the uk and the populace are further apart . i can uk and the populace are further apart. i can promise you if there was a national referendum held on how many people should come to britain, leave eagerly and what we should do with those that come illegally and how many people we should take from war zones the world. we would zones around the world. we would get a very different result to that. that is produced by the westminster parliament and indeed scottish parliament. indeed the scottish parliament. >> nigel, we've been debating this morning the relative merits of rishi sunak being out there, the cost of him going there to the cost of him going there to the to the british taxpayer, but also to the israelis who are having safe while having to keep him safe while he's and the benefit that he's there. and the benefit that he's there. and the benefit that he might bring on that trip. where you stand on it? where do you stand on it? >> well, cost a very marginal >> well, cost is a very marginal point. i mean, we are at a moment where there is a real danger of major escalation in the middle east, which could profoundly affect the lives of

all of us around the world. i think it's right that rishi sunak i'm very surprised how little has been said about the british citizens that have been killed or should i say murdered , killed or should i say murdered, and the british citizens that are still being held hostage. it's almost as if we've forgotten about these people. well, i certainly haven't. and i absolutely hope that top of sunak's list is finding out what the plan is to extract our people , all who are being held people, all who are being held hostage. right now. i understand a detached part of the sas on its way, but also worth noting that the americans yesterday, biden's always a bitjumbly and stumbly, but he was perfectly clear that american intelligence said that the bombing of the hospital came from a misfired hamas rocket . it's absolutely hamas rocket. it's absolutely clear that's what the american intelligence believes and that's now actually what most of the world believes. and yet rishi sunak refused to be drawn on that, refused to say earlier on,

look, you know, let's be clear . look, you know, let's be clear. this was a hamas misfire. and i wonder why he's running away from that. is it that he fears even bigger street protests on the cities of our country ? the cities of our country? >> yes. well, nigel, earlier we spoke to human rights lawyer ivan sampson about the question of whether we should take in refugees from gaza and have a listen to this. and then can you react to what he says for us? >> somebody a genuine refugee and wants to claim asylum here? we should have safe routes to do that. look, lebanon has 22% of its population as refugees , we its population as refugees, we have no point 6. we i mean, it's just a complete lie to say we've been overrun with refugees. it's just simply not true. okay >> well , go on, nigel, just simply not true. okay >> well, go on, nigel, your reaction to that? well, well , reaction to that? well, well, we're not lebanon , you know, we we're not lebanon, you know, we are the united kingdom. >> we have i mean, look at it.

you know, we're putting people on barges. we're filling up over 400 hotels around the country . i 400 hotels around the country. i mean, if ivan sampson is saying we don't have a problem with housing, people , whether they're housing, people, whether they're genuine refugees or people illegally crossing the channel then frankly, he's in cloud cuckoo land. and i think all through the centuries, there is no country in the world who has actually got a finer record of genuinely helping those in. we've done more than our fair share over the course of the last few years, enough is enough. and you know, ivan, if you listen to the unhcr , they're you listen to the unhcr, they're up to 80 million people around the world displaced . how many the world displaced. how many millions does ivan think should come? i'd love to know the answer. a nswer. >> answer. >> yeah. okay. >> yeah. okay. >> they never have an answer to that. no, it's always one that's slightly dodged. >> but nigel, thank you so much. nigel will on your screens, nigel will be on your screens, of at 7:00 tonight. here of course, at 7:00 tonight. here on your emails on gb news. keep your emails coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> still come, king charles >> still to come, king charles stressed the importance of mutual understanding between

religions during turbulent times and revoking visas. >> former home secretary sajid javid is calling for foreign nationals committing acts of anti—semitism or other hate crimes in the uk to have their visas revoked. do you agree with that? that and much more after your morning's news with . rihanna >> good morning. it's 1031. rihanna >> good morning. it's1031. your top stories from the newsroom. the prime ministers met with families whose loved ones are being held hostage by hamas following the attacks on israel on october the 7th. rishi sunak can be seen hugging a woman on a social media post with the caption, to have a child taken from you is the parent's worst nightmare. rishi sunak in israel meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu as well as president isaac herzog . well as president isaac herzog. he'll also press for the route into gaza to be open for the delivery of humanitarian aid, as well as the safe exit of those trapped in the territory.

>> gotta be here. it's an important time. it's important for me to be able to express my solidarity with the israeli people, following what was a horrific terrorist attack . horrific terrorist attack. productive meetings ahead of us today. i'm looking fonnard to seeing the prime minister and president are lots of work president there are lots of work for us to do back here. >> asylum seekers are set to return bibby stockholm return to the bibby stockholm home number of people home today. a number of people were off the barge after were taken off the barge after deadly area found on deadly backed area was found on board than two months ago. board more than two months ago. letters have been to asylum letters have been sent to asylum seekers confirmed their seekers confirmed aiming their return. office says all return. the home office says all necessary tests have now been completed . greta thunberg has completed. greta thunberg has joined a protest outside jp morgan in london demanding the bank stop funding fossil fuels . bank stop funding fossil fuels. all right, so . we rac ipso all all right, so. we rac ipso all the climate activists is with fossil free london at the entrance in canary wharf. it follows tuesday's protest in mayfair at a meeting between oil

executives where ms thunberg was arrested , along with 26 others arrested, along with 26 others and charged with a public order offence and the met office has issued a rare red weather warning for heavy rainfall and severe wind for parts of scotland . storm babet is scotland. storm babet is forecast to cause severe flooding and risk to life from 6 pm. this evening and tomorrow. angus and aberdeenshire are expected to be the worst affected areas with some schools closing power outages are expected along with train cancellations until saturday. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . website, gbnews.com. >> still to come this morning, we're going to be joined by gb news political editor and very popular new member of our team, christopher hope with the latest on to israel

>> patrick christys wheat days from three on . from three on. gb news right. >> it's 1037. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with me, emily carver and bev turner. we're currently looking at pictures of sderot on the left of your screen and on the right hand side, we've got the lebanon border there. you can lebanon border there. as you can see, all looks calm at the moment. there a couple of moment. there are a couple of plumes of smoke there on the right hand side. that's by the lebanon border. we know that there continue to be strikes and

bombardments there . we'll bring bombardments there. we'll bring you any updates from israel and from gaza and the lebanon border as happen . right. we've got as they happen. right. we've got our guests in the studio. >> sam lister is with us this morning from the daily express. and carole malone as well. hence all and the sort of, all the news and the sort of, you know, chaos and the you know, the chaos and the papers the chats, the papers and the chats, the rustling. right. ladies let's start king charles and his start with king charles and his speech last night, talking about bringing people together . what bringing people together. what did what did he say, caroline, and why does it matter at a time like this? it wasn't it kind of was what he said, but it was kind of the way he said it. >> he did what his mother would have done. he's trying to keep calm. it was this was his calm. it was this this was his mansion house and, mansion house speech. and, you know, charles infamous know, charles is infamous for meddling . we know meddling politically. we know that. i had i thought, oh, that. and i had a i thought, oh, my god, to go there my god, he's going to go there and something and going and say something and it's going to war iii. and he to be world war iii. and he wasn't that at all. he was wasn't like that at all. he was just really he measured and he said like said, you said things like he said, you know, have to we must not know, we have to we must not become a shouting,

discriminatory society. he he talked about the proper ganda war media and war raging on social media and said massive said that can cause massive problems. about the problems. he warned about the dangers. about this dangers. he warned about this war on social media. and he said he civility and he called for civility and tolerance amid rising tensions over gaza, over the hospital bombings. and i just thought, this is good. he's not taking any side. he's doing exactly what the queen would have done. and i'm sure that one of her greatest fears was charles being king, that he would cause an king, was that he would cause an international incident and this would be the place, not to do that. and i thought he was brilliant. he also talked brilliant. and he also talked about talked about how when about he talked about how when he off guard, he talked he moved off guard, he talked about speak about people had to speak freely, which is a subject that was very dear to our hearts. here he said, you know, people keep on talking about their rights, but they also have to consider their personal responsibilities, both to each other communities . that's other and to communities. that's interesting. i just thought interesting. and i just thought my know, you really my god, you know, you really sound a grown up here. i sound like a grown up here. i know that sounds patronising. he's 70, but i just thought he was monarch. but was the monarch. yeah, but i thought was doing the job of

thought he was doing the job of monarch very yeah. monarch very well. yeah. >> and he even of >> and he even made a bit of a joke, didn't he, sam? about himself. and he said we have to be able to laugh ourselves be able to laugh at ourselves and who's seen and which anybody who's seen the. he say? the the. what did he say? the vicissitudes of unpredictable fountain i've had to fountain pens that i've had to deal him losing his deal with about him losing his temper, various things. temper, signing various things. it was the was it was it was the tone was right. says, it right. like carol says, it brought together. i think so. >> so. >> and he talks about the uk being community of being a community of communities. what communities. and obviously what we've is not we've seen is that this is not just about the middle east. this is about the repercussions that are over the are happening all over the world, western world, you know, america and we've seen america here and we've seen obviously great, great tensions. there very , very angry there are very, very, very angry protests . and essentially he protests. and essentially he he's trying to calm that. you know, he's looking at the impact on the uk and trying to bring that down a notch. and i think that down a notch. and i think thatis that down a notch. and i think that is very, very welcome. i think it is interesting, though, he does. and i know we're going to go on to talk about this, but he does to hamas as he does refer to hamas as terrorists. and i think the terrorists. and i think if the king can that, then the bbc king can do that, then the bbc should able do that. should be able to do that. >> let's move on to that.

>> well, let's move on to that. >> well, let's move on to that. >> i do wonder whether it will have any impact. >> you know. >> you know. >> well, it's clearly >> well. well, it's clearly having the bbc at having no impact on the bbc at all because the very definitely have taken sides fact, over have taken sides in fact, over the of days, there's the past couple of days, there's been of the most been some of the most irresponsible reporting i think i ever seen. this situation i have ever seen. this situation is that's happening is tinderbox that's happening right we all have be right now. and we all have to be very careful we do and say very careful what we do and say re the middle east and the bbc when this this bombing happened, this happened. this hospital bombing happened. the bbc and one of its reports i'm going to name him a guy called john donnison, he was out there and he said without a shred evidence, was shred of evidence, his quote was , it's hard to see how anyone but could blame . but israel could be to blame. and then had and they said, and then they had and they said, the bbc said that this information on that had information. they said it came from palestinian officials without naming without ever naming these palestinian turns out palestinian officials turns out it was very likely hamas who gave him that information. so that without any verification for information that came from a prescribed terrorist group, they put that out there. now, the

bbc, what's really important is the bbc is well respected in the middle east and its word is law. out there. so immediately many people in the middle east were thinking israel did this before we knew it was a worldwide push notification. >> yes . essentially what hamas >> yes. essentially what hamas was saying going out to potentially millions of people . potentially millions of people. we see this come up on their phone and think israel's done this awful war crime. >> and even though emily, even though the evidence now is showing that that's maybe not the case, probably almost definitely not the case. and israel have described why it wasn't the case, why it was unlikely it was one of their bombs. and there are people in the middle who are not the middle east who are not believing there believing that because there are riots and the chance riots everywhere. and the chance everywhere are death to the uk, death france, what we death to france, what have we done? trying to be as done? we're trying to be as evenhanded as we possibly can in this country. >> can can rishi sunak go out there and do any good for us? this is the thing when as carol was saying, the attitudes around

this are so entrenched more than almost any other issue in our lifetime. and this has been a penod lifetime. and this has been a period of entrenched opinions. let's be honest. can he do any good to keep us safe here in the uk ? u k? >> uk? >> i think actually, yes, he can. and that is part of this visit. it's obviously it's a symbolic thing. it's to show we stand with israel , but actually stand with israel, but actually it is also about speaking to the israelis , frankly, privately , by israelis, frankly, privately, by calling for restraint. you know , calling for restraint. you know, this is not aboutjust going this is not about just going over there and kind of, you know, rallying the israelis. this is about speaking to the israelis as a friend and actually what happens there impacts on us as we have seen. so i do think it is really important that he's there. and i think we can speak as a nation, frankly, to the israeli government. and i think that is. >> isn't it hard, though, for, sam, you know, everyone everyone has for has called on israel for restraint , and we has called on israel for restraint, and we know has called on israel for restraint , and we know why. has called on israel for restraint, and we know why. it's very obvious why there needs to be restraint. if it turns

be restraint. but if it turns out that hamas did set this out that that hamas did set this was one of their mortars that backfired. you know, the people if i was if i was living in israel or even if i was a jew living in this country, you would want your government to go hell for leather in there . you hell for leather in there. you would not want them to get away with that, i think, is with this. and that, i think, is the problem israel has the big problem here. israel has always asked to show always been asked to show restraint, and i'm not taking sides you know, sides here. but, you know, because the bigger because it is the bigger military power and that's a fact. but you know, you can see why people of israel don't why the people of israel don't want their government to show restraint. >> well, many palestinian officials of one sort or another have been asked, what does israeli restraint look like . israeli restraint look like. >> what is the right reaction to having a barbaric terrorist attack committed on your people and say, as the only jewish state in the region, the world, the. >> that is a very valid point. but i think you also have to listen to the words of joe biden yesterday. and i don't think the visit got off to a particularly great start, but i think it got

better there. and i think his point is actually you know, point is actually we you know, we've there, the us, we we've been there, the us, we have been there we you know, have been there and we you know, these are the lessons we have learned. afghanistan yeah. after 911 course want 911 and that of course you want to go hell for leather to avenge the on your but the wrongs on your nation. but actually these are the lessons the learned. the us has learned. please, please look at those. and i think that is a very valid thing to say. and i'm not saying what is right, what is restraint and what i don't know. that's not for me to say. but you know, if you were in israel and you're counting the dead babies and you're seeing the beheaded babies, seeing the babies, you're seeing the children who were killed and burned, seeing the old people. >> when you seen all that, it's very hard to want show very hard to want to show restraint. mean, amazed by restraint. i mean, i'm amazed by a lot of the jews in this country who are saying absolutely up front, we feel for the dead palestinian men, women and children who are innocents in all of this. we feel for it. so there is that that sort of compassion, that kind of humanity is there. but i just see this getting worse. and now, especially in the middle east, i

mean, fury and there's mean, there's fury and there's fury about europe. they've already decided we've taken sides. yeah right. >> let's let's let's talk about a domestic shall we? this a domestic issue, shall we? this is piece in the express is your piece in the express today. sam pensions , today. sam about pensions, triple lock pensions. i know this is important to a lot of our viewers and listeners , our viewers and listeners, what's going on. >> and it's really important to our readers. it's the number one issue readers, the issue for our readers, the triple lock essentially triple lock is essentially supposed take the any supposed to take out the any discussion about what the state pension rises by each year. it is pegged to three things. there's a minimum floor of 2.5% or it's inflation or average earnings, and it's supposed to be a default. they're supposed to be no discussion about it, is it? >> which is the highest or which is the lowest. >> which is the highest. which is the highest. is like a is the highest. 2.5 is like a minimum. the minimum you can ever get is 2.5. and so, you know, this supposed take know, this is supposed to take the out of the situation the worry out of the situation for pensioners . what has for pensioners. what what has happened government? happened under this government? it's we have this it's every year now we have this question will question mark over will the triple now, triple lock be honoured? now, it's not a lock if you don't

lock it. yes, exactly. it's no longer a lock because the discussion happens now every year sunak suspended it year rishi sunak suspended it dunng year rishi sunak suspended it during covid. i think a lot of people understood that we were in and gave in exceptional times and gave him the benefit of the doubt on that. to then keep going that. but to then keep going through a through this. so there's a question mark. i'll keep it very quick, but basically this question mark over whether you pay question mark over whether you pay 7.8, and that pay at 8.5% or 7.8, and that depends on how you massage the figures. >> and this is because we've got such rampant inflation. >> it's actually this this this yearis >> it's actually this this this year is linked to wages , right? year is linked to wages, right? so they are looking at stripping out a particular bit of the wages. so take out bonuses . wages. so you take out bonuses. so it pays a lower level and that's because we've had so many bonuses only ever paid it at this higher level. so to this higher level. and so to rewrite the figures and the calculation i don't calculation now, i don't understand money, understand why why it's money, why average why it's locked to average wages, inflation totally understand and not to go below 2.5. >> but why lock it to average wages or not even not. >> i mean, i get what you're saying, but not even that. i think it's the important point.

the important point is we have a government trying to diddle pensioners and really it really hacks me off. know, hacks me off. you know, 2 million pensioners in this country, we rely solely on the state pension and that about state pension and that is about £800 let any of us try £800 a month. let any of us try and live on that. it's impossible. you can't do it. and you know, it's 2 million. 2 million live on the state pension alone. but there's this narrative we're we're treating , somehow we're we're treating, you know, treating the pensioners better than young people missing out. no, people who are missing out. no, i'm pensioners paid i'm sorry. pensioners have paid into system all of their into this system all of their lives. this is their entitlement . it's not gift. it's not a . it's not a gift. it's not a present. it's what they're entitled to. and when you have train on 68 grand, train drivers on 68 grand, getting 9% deal, the hell getting a 9% deal, why the hell shouldn't a pensioner an shouldn't a pensioner get an 8.5? really feels like there's >> it really feels like there's this sense that pensioners should grateful, right? should just be grateful, right? you should just grateful for you should just be grateful for what giving you. whereas what we're giving you. whereas younger might be younger people who might be on benefits are told they benefits are being told they they , they have a right to that they, they have a right to that without showing gratitude. >> good years or two good >> two good years or two good years. yeah in the entirety of the triple lock which came in in

2010, two good years is not enough to re—evaluate this formula . formula. >> last year it was 3.5. yeah, that's what that's when they said it went. but but but importantly at that point, that was the time when food went up by 15. and fuel doubled. >> but the point rishi sunak has to remember here on the chancellor is this will save them about £600 million, which is nothing , but it will create is nothing, but it will create enormous bad feeling among the one group of people who actually still vote for them. and if they're prepared away they're to prepared throw away that goodwill for sake of that goodwill for the sake of £600 they i do £600 million, they will. i do not work very good. >> you know what i hate? >> you know what i hate? >> it is the intergenerational . >> it is the intergenerational. yes. anger that comes from the pension triple lock or it's used to sort of show, as you said, that younger people are are hard done by. think it's very done by. i think it's very difficult. there may be some arguments to means test it a little more. >> i had argument with a >> i had an argument with a young yesterday who young person yesterday who was on station mr on this station lot, mr buttennorth, i about to say buttennorth, i was about to say buttennorth, i was about to say buttennorth, name, buttennorth, not any name, but he he he calls he he thinks he calls a pensioner a millionaire . if they pensioner a millionaire. if they live is worth £1

live in a house that is worth £1 million. he's not getting the fact that they worked all their lives pay that and lives to pay for that house. and the suggestion there is that, oh, get to 65, but sell that oh, you get to 65, but sell that house go live in a much house and go and live in a much smaller because you don't smaller one because you don't deserve have house. and deserve to have that house. and it's fair on young people. it's not fair on young people. yeah young people get their own houses. they've got whole houses. they've got a whole lifetime together lifetime to work together versus the elderly. >> need more houses, though, >> we need more houses, though, carol. we need more. carol. well, we do need more. >> but don't punish >> we do. but don't don't punish the because of that. the elderly because of that. >> need more work ethic. >> and we need more work ethic. call fashion, but we do call me old fashion, but we do need more work ethic. >> okay. work harder. >> okay. i'll work harder. pensioners, you and patrick christys couldn't put in any more on this channel, more hours on this channel, but you think those you know, i think those pensioners, you say, you pensioners, like you say, you forget the lifetime of work that pensioners, like you say, you forget people ztime of work that pensioners, like you say, you forget people ztime otheyrk that pensioners, like you say, you forget people ztime othe system those people put in the system long, hours all their lives long, long hours all their lives to, to have that. >> i don't resent them penny >> i don't resent them a penny of are claiming of those who are claiming unemployment and have unemployment benefit and have been can't be been for 30 years can't be bothered get a job. bothered to get a job. >> you know who who talks about taking their away. taking their money away. >> need houses though, >> they need more houses though, so people feel they so that young people feel they can own can have aspiration to own because moment, you know, because at the moment, you know, we need more houses and in we do need more houses and in

fact to have liam fact we're going to have liam halligan in the second half halligan on in the second half of the show because there is an interesting statistic actually about and how little about housing and how little we've have that we've got to have and what that might 2030. might mean by about 2030. >> have a quick touch >> should we have a quick touch on the bibby stockholm asylum seekers? be seekers? they're going to be welcomed back today. >> sam, this this is a >> sam, this is this is a success story. >> to think they're going >> i need to think they're going to time more than the to take this time more than the 20 that got on their last. 20 odd that got on their last. >> you know, i think this is i mean i think people really need to see this actually working in action it's been such action because it's been such a far have few people go on far to have a few people go on and then immediately taken and then immediately be taken off. taken months to off. and it's taken months to clean out some pipes this clean out some pipes on this thing. it seems thing. i know itjust seems absolutely think absolutely baffling, but i think they really got to make this work othennise yeah. work now. othennise yeah. >> story today, sam, >> well, the story today, sam, is some the murphys is that some of the murphys are going they're going because they're traumatised idea traumatised at the idea of drinking water. i mean, drinking that water. i mean, these are supposed to be people that have fled war and persecution. they've probably been living in tatty old tents across in calais, and they're saying can't drink the saying they can't drink the water bibby stockholm. water on bibby stockholm. please get might say you're heartless. >> i'm not being heartless at all. you've seen the bibby

stockholm. quite luxurious. all. you've seen the bibby stnfact, lm. quite luxurious. all. you've seen the bibby stnfact, lots quite luxurious. all. you've seen the bibby stnfact, lots of quite luxurious. all. you've seen the bibby stnfact, lots of homelessjrious. all. you've seen the bibby stnfact, lots of homeless people in fact, lots of homeless people in actually in this country have actually told they, when they told me that they, when they were they would love were homeless, they would love to have lived on that place. they've given their right arms. to have lived on that place. thewell,|iven their right arms. to have lived on that place. thewell, |iv you 1eir right arms. to have lived on that place. thewell,|iv you remember rms. to have lived on that place. thewell,|iv you remember when >> well, if you remember when initially were seeing initially look, they were seeing some some rooms. if some we're seeing some rooms. if you're listening on the radio, i mean, it's like a decent of mean, it's like a decent sort of basic student student accommodation, property on the wall everything. know, wall and everything. you know, you've going in. if you've got security going in. if you've got security going in. if you time, there you remember last time, there were got on the were so few people got on the boatin were so few people got on the boat in the first place. but actually once arrived and actually once they arrived and then people started coming actually once they arrived and theit people started coming actually once they arrived and theit was people started coming actually once they arrived and theit was almoste started coming actually once they arrived and theit was almost like rted coming actually once they arrived and theit was almost like they :oming actually once they arrived and theit was almost like they wereg in, it was almost like they were ringing their mates and going, in, it was almost like they were ringgot their mates and going, in, it was almost like they were ringgot jim.�* mates and going, in, it was almost like they were ringgot jim. it'sites and going, in, it was almost like they were ringgot jim. it's all and going, in, it was almost like they were ringgot jim. it's all right.oing, it's gotjim. it's all right. >> it's got, it's got we've got a cinema room, we've got a fantastic canteen. >> then more and more people >> and then more and more people arrive. just to arrive. so we'll just have to see what happens today. and then obviously list. obviously they have the list. >> embarrassing the >> so embarrassing for the government something else government if something else crops means have government if something else cr(take means have government if something else cr(take them means have government if something else cr(take them alleans have government if something else cr(take them all offs have government if something else cr(take them all off again.have government if something else cr(take them all off again. and to take them all off again. and i'm sure something will i'm sure i'm sure something will i'm sure i wouldn't be surprised, dear. well, i have. well, yes. farcical. i have. i have very little faith in this as being any sort of resolution. >> you think we're >> sam, do you think we're paying >> sam, do you think we're paying a day for paying £8 million a day for accommodation and. >> has to stop. mean,

>> and that has to stop. i mean, that has to stop. yeah. four star hotels. people not put star hotels. people will not put up so, you know, they up with that. so, you know, they need to make this work. >> this is costing 25 grand >> this sam is costing 25 grand a day to stand empty. just to stand my god. stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and spent something like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand spent something like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand on)ent something like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand on fixingymething like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand on fixing it.>thing like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand on fixing it. song like stand empty. that's. oh, my god. and grand on fixing it. so it's ike 600 grand on fixing it. so it's costs a of money already. costs a lot of money already. >> we are a very generous country, aren't we? when you look like that you look at it like that and you realise we, you know, we're realise and we, you know, we're accused of not taking enough people, but when you look at these numbers, doing these numbers, sam, we are doing we yeah, we are doing our bit. yeah, yeah, we are doing our bit. yeah, yeai, we are doing our bit. yeah, yeai mean, think the, the >> i mean, i think the, the government must have it must have some success with the bibby stockholm. it must have flight stockholm. it must have a flight take off to rwanda. yes. othennise people will lose faith in it in, in its ability to deal with these issues. but it's also got a kind brewing problem got a kind of brewing problem with migration and the net with legal migration and the net figures there. i think this is going to you know, this is going to be such a key issue at the election they've to election that they've got to find some way of. >> yeah, will be. >> yeah, it will be. >> yeah, it will be. >> well, thank you very much, sam lister. and carole malone, in moments, we're in the next few moments, we're going to be going to

going to be going straight to westminster to get political reaction political reaction from our political editor, with gb editor, christopher hope with gb news. hello >> storm stays with us over the next we have a red next 24 hours. we have a red warning coming into force later on thursday for eastern scotland. the rain is going to intensify over the next 24 hours andits intensify over the next 24 hours and it's all down to this area of low pressure and these persisting weather fronts. this is where we'll see that red warning come into force later on thursday. but as well as that, we've also got amber warnings in force rain and wind across force for rain and wind across parts scotland . yellow parts of scotland. yellow warnings as well across more widely across scotland and northeast england. rain you northeast england. the rain you can see really intensifying through thursday afternoon, piling gusts of 60 to 70 piling in with gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour. elsewhere, some heavy showers, some thunderstorms, very mild for the time of year, 18 or 19 degrees. not much sunshine out there, though. as through though. and as we head through thursday evening, that's when the warning comes into force the red warning comes into force for areas of scotland. the red warning comes into force for could areas of scotland. the red warning comes into force for could ar(as of scotland. the red warning comes into force for could ar(as muchotland. the red warning comes into force for could ar(as much as1nd. the red warning comes into force for could ar(as much as 250mm of we could see as much as 250mm of rain. that's a dangerous amount of will cause of rain. it will cause widespread and there widespread flooding and there will disruption. stay

will be some disruption. do stay tuned forecast . further tuned to the forecast. further wet piles in across wet weather piles in across eastern and southeastern parts of england and wales as we go through the course of the night. it stays mild overnight, but further warnings remain in place for the few hours. and then for the next few hours. and then through thursday , friday through thursday, friday morning, we continue to see this very wet weather pushing its way in. it will continue to give some quite heavy for the some quite heavy rain for the pennines somewhat from pennines easing somewhat from scotland, very scotland, but it stays very unsettled . further heavy showers unsettled. further heavy showers then across southern then pushing across southern areas, limited brightness here. it very changeable for the it stays very changeable for the next few days. bye. by >> still to come this morning, power cuts, travel disruption and a risk to life. i think we'll find something hopefully nice to talk about as well. scotland is bracing itself for storm babet. this is britain's newsroom on

gb news. it's 11:00 on gb news. it's11:00 on thursday, gb news. it's 11:00 on thursday, the 19th of october. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and emily carver this morning. >> yes. now read weather warning scotland itself as storm scotland braces itself as storm babet arrives . our reporters, babet arrives. our reporters, tony mcguire is at the scene. >> if that is actual pictures. hello >> good morning . i am certainly >> good morning. i am certainly it's something of a lovely day. we're having here, but not not particularly the most pleasant topic. some severe weather warnings , travel disruption, warnings, travel disruption, power cuts and much, much more coming over the course of the

day . day. >> oh, poor tony. if you're listening on the radio, it's worth switching on your tv to see that weather. now, back on the barge, the home office is expected return asylum expected to return asylum seekers the bibby stockholm seekers to the bibby stockholm barge dorset. our barge moored in dorset. our reporter has the reporter jeff moody has the very latest . latest. >> yes, i'm going to be live in portland throughout the day here on gb news when the first of the coach loads of refugees is due to return on to the barge at around midday today. >> and a social housing crisis by 2030. >> 150,000 children will be homeless and living in b&bs and other emergency accommodation . other emergency accommodation. >> we're going to be talking to liam halligan about that statistic and surely with that kind of warning, we can do something about it by 2030. >> you'd have thought so. you

would have thought so. >> but, you know, nothing surprises me anymore. getting touched us this morning on email gbviews@gbnews.com can gbviews@gbnews.com or you can tweet at gb first, tweet us at gb news. first, though, the latest though, here's the very latest news with rhiannon jones . news with rhiannon jones. >> good morning. it's 11:01. >> good morning. it's11:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom . i'm the prime minister newsroom. i'm the prime minister has met with families in israel whose loved ones are being held hostage by hamas following the attacks on october the 7th. a social media post shows rishi sunak hugging a woman with the caption to have a child taken from you is a parent's worst nightmare . at a meeting earlier, nightmare. at a meeting earlier, he told president isaac herzog he told president isaac herzog he had not just a right, but he had notjust a right, but a duty to restore security to the country. he's also met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu . it's understood mr netanyahu. it's understood mr sunak will be pressing for the route into gaza to be open for the delivery of humanitarian aid as well as the safe exit of those trapped in the territory .

those trapped in the territory. while the conflict has now killed more than 4900 people on both sides, does it enters its 13th day. a warning some viewers may find the following images. distress facing the gaza health ministry says over 12,000 palestinian boys have been injured in israeli airstrikes and hundreds of thousands have been displaced . the united been displaced. the united nafions been displaced. the united nations warns that life saving aid for those trapped in gaza is now critical. benjamin netanyahu has said he won't stop food , has said he won't stop food, water and medicine from being delivered to civilians in the south from egypt. but he says there'll be no humanitarian aid from israel without the return of hostages . security minister of hostages. security minister tom tugendhat says palestinians in gaza are being exploited by hamas. >> i think we've got to recognise that the first victims of hamas are the palestinian people. we've seen people in

gaza over the last 30 or 40 years is not just murdered. when hamas took power in 2008 nine, but actually since then being exploited in the most horrific ways. we've seen children being forced to dig these tunnels that sadly have been dug across the entire region. we've seen individuals who have stood against hamas in various different ways being murdered . different ways being murdered. well, the foreign secretary's had talks with his egyptian counterpart to discuss the ongoing situation in gaza. >> james cleverly visited israel last week and will travel to turkey and qatar over the coming days to try and seek a peaceful resolution. the uk says the three countries are vital to international efforts to uphold regional stability, free hostages and allow humanitarian access to gaza . in other news, access to gaza. in other news, french president emmanuel macron has attended the funeral of a teacher who was stabbed in a suspected islamist attack . suspected islamist attack. dominique bernard was stabbed to

death six days ago in the northern city of arras. macron and his wife spoke to his family. ahead of the ceremony, also attended by bernard students, each carrying a white rose. the suspect is under formal investigation for murder and france has been on its highest state of alert since the attack . back here, asylum attack. back here, asylum seekers are set to return to the bibby stockholm later . a number bibby stockholm later. a number of people were taken off the barge after deadly bacteria was found on board. more than two months ago. food supplies have now been delivered and letters sent to asylum seekers confirming their return . the confirming their return. the home office says all necessary tests have now been completed at the met. police has described new facial recognition technology to catch prolific shoplifter as game changing in a pilot of the new software. 12 retailers provided images of 30 of the worst offenders when compared with the force's custody shots. almost half came

up as positive matches. those offenders are now being investigated with a view to build criminal cases as the software uses biometric measures of a person's face. even if it's partly . covered and an partly. covered and an investigation has been launched into welsh water after the company admitted illegally spilling untreated sewage. natural resources wales says it's examining the severity and frequency of permit breaches by the water company . welsh water the water company. welsh water says between 40 and 50 of its wastewater treatment plants are currently operating in breach of their permits. one of the worst performing plants is in cardigan in welsh west wales and greta thunberg has taken to the streets in a protest that started outside jp morgan in london this morning, demanding the bank stop funding fossil fuels . like out sloppy's these

fuels. like out sloppy's these live pictures of that protest in london, the climate activists joined fossil free london at the entrance in canary wharf this morning. it follows tuesday's protest in mayfair outside a meeting between oil executives where ms thunberg was arrested , where ms thunberg was arrested, along with 26 others and charged with a public order offence and the met office has issued a rare red weather warning for heavy rainfall and severe wind for parts of scotland. storm babet is forecast to cause severe flooding and risk to life from 6 pm. this evening until tomorrow . angus and aberdeenshire are expected to be the worst affected areas , with some affected areas, with some schools closing . power outages schools closing. power outages are expected along with train cancellations until saturday. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back over to emily and beth .

back over to emily and beth. >> very good morning. it's 1107. >> very good morning. it's1107. the prime minister has arrived in israel for a two day visit before heading to regional capital. what can he achieve? >> yes, joining us to discuss this is gb political editor this is gb news political editor christopher hope . christopher hope. >> christopher, thank you very much for joining >> christopher, thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this morning. tell us what's the latest from this trip and what is he trying to achieve ? is he trying to achieve? >> well, so far in israel , all >> well, so far in israel, all the pm rishi sunak has met with the pm rishi sunak has met with the israeli israeli president, isaac herzog. they they've crucially talked about the work they're doing to entirely to support the release of hostages held by hamas in gaza. of course , we know that there are seven, seven brits, british nationals died. nine more are missing. so as many as nine, we don't know that figure, but as many as nine british nationals could be held in gaza. so that's the conversation so far . there's conversation so far. there's also talks about ensuring also been talks about ensuring that the israel can defend

itself in line with international law. that's what the uk has been stressing with israel. of course, when this invasion happens, if it does happen, maybe over weekend, happen, maybe over the weekend, then the behaviour of israeli troops in gaza will be so important to how they maintain pubuc important to how they maintain public around the world public support around the world for their for their action there. so so far, that's the meeting we're waiting for. the meeting we're waiting for. the meeting with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, i should say . we're not with him should say. we're not with him the least. he's taking no journalists with him, the prime minister, not a single one with him. we're relying on what him. so we're relying on what number 10 us is happening number 10 tells us is happening out there, which unusual, out there, which is unusual, but it's a reflection of it's also maybe a reflection of the status in the the security status in the middle east at the moment. >> and chris, you were obviously aware of pmqs yesterday and the prime minister got, you know, a lot of attention on this issue. what did you make of that? first pmqs back after having the break for the conferences? yeah well, it was very subdued , bev, wasn't it was very subdued, bev, wasn't it, after after you and i are

able to lucky enough and emily, of course, to be at the party conferences when it was back to kind you know what will they kind of you know what will they do they the labour wins do if they if the labour wins the election, if the tories can hang on all all that kind of thing. >> was much more subdued. >> but it was much more subdued. it was one of those moments, i think, the parliament, when think, when the parliament, when the house commons its the house of commons is at its best, correctly best, when everyone is correctly paying best, when everyone is correctly paying to those who died paying tribute to those who died and trying to make sure the right comes from the right message comes out from the house commons, elected house of commons, the elected chamber country. house of commons, the elected cha okay. country. house of commons, the elected cha okay. all country. house of commons, the elected chaokay. all right.jntry. house of commons, the elected chaokay. all right. thank you, >> okay. all right. thank you, chris, from very calm looking chris, from a very calm looking london down there at moment, london down there at the moment, there westminster. but of there at westminster. but of course, facing a rare red course, we are facing a rare red weather warning, lorry, weather warning, red lorry, yellow this rare , not yellow lorry, this rare, not enough news, is there? enough bad news, is there? >> stating that a risk >> warning stating that a risk to life has been issued for parts of scotland as storm babits arrives today. yes, well , babits arrives today. yes, well, the first minister humza yousaf has warned against all but essential travel with extensive flooding and road closures expected in aberdeenshire and angus. >> i have family up in aberdeenshire, so i hope they're

okay. >> well, if you're watching, do let us know. >> i'm sure you are. if you're emily's family, why would you not be watching? we've sent tony maguire up there. we are going to we saw clip of tony in the to we saw a clip of tony in the menu. now i was being a little bit flippant because if you're a regular viewer, you know, sometimes make lot sometimes i think we make a lot of of what is just of fuss out of what is just weather and that we've been coping with weather for years. and then the picture and then we saw the picture of tony being battered with tony maguire being battered with his umbrella in an absolute sort of downpour, a sort of typhoon of downpour, a sort of typhoon of is going on up of rain that is going on up there. so won't be quite as flippant. >> i hope lives aren't actually at risk, but we'll find out more when appears. when tony appears. >> might have been blown away >> he might have been blown away by the wind. >> been getting in touch >> you've been getting in touch with morning as with us at home this morning as well. your emails coming to well. keep your emails coming to us, gb views at gbnews.com is the and we were discussing the email and we were discussing whether you think rishi sunak should going over to the should be going over to the middle east. should he be in israel what is the israel now? what is the significance we've been significance of this? we've been discussing actually discussing this morning actually to quite to some extent it is quite symbolic. i thought actually that foster was very that arlene foster was very

informative on this first informative on this in the first half the show half an hour of the show and saying at times we do saying that at these times we do need have diplomacy behind need to have diplomacy behind the nothing else , to the scenes. if nothing else, to keep humanitarian corridor open. >> yeah, and there are some people who who agree with you, bev, or agree with the idea that perhaps it's not the best use of his time and the best use of money resources. others money and resources. others think essential in terms of think it's essential in terms of solidarity, and we were dying to talk to tony maguire. >> now we don't think he's been completely drowned in that rain, but we can't get a hold of him just at this moment. but we are going to and get hold of going to try and get hold of him. but we have also another awesome reporter us out, out awesome reporter for us out, out and the home and about this morning. the home office set to office is, of course, set to return asylum seekers the return asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm home that is moored dorset. moored in portland, dorset. >> yes, 39 people >> yes, the 39 people accommodated the barge were, accommodated on the barge were, of evacuated. accommodated on the barge were, of that evacuated. accommodated on the barge were, of that evaftered. accommodated on the barge were, of that ev. after discovering >> that was after discovering legionella in the water legionella bacteria in the water supply. >> so let's go to the south—west and to our south—west. >> england reporter jeff moody on a very calm looking day there in terms of the weather. jeff but not, i imagine, in terms of

the mood and absolutely not. >> well, thank you for the awesome. i appreciate that. yes. we've got about an hour now until the first coach load of asylum seekers arrives back from the bibby stockholm. we're not sure exactly how many coach loads there will be, but there's certainly going to be a few there coming up from devon, south devon, where they've been housed in hotels over the last few since august, when few months, since august, when their attempt to board the their last attempt to board the bibby happened last bibby stockholm happened last time were for here just time they were for here just four days, as know before four days, as we know before this outbreak broke this legionella outbreak broke out and they came off the barge pretty soon aftennards. since then, there's been all of these legal wrangling as the mayor of portland , caroline parks , went portland, caroline parks, went to the high court to try and overturn turn the use of the barge for asylum seekers that was kicked out of court. fairly swift ish . the problem with swift ish. the problem with legionella is now says the home office solved. and so today is the day. today is the day when

the day. today is the day when the home office tries again to fill asylum seekers onto the bibby stockholm. they're going to be met by demonstrations here. it's not going to be as ferocious and as angry as demonstrations we've seen here in the last few weeks and months. these are the stand up to racism people who have got some plenty of banners saying no to the prison barge , that that to the prison barge, that that view, of course, is echoed by the asylum seekers themselves, 39 of them, when they were here last time, wrote an open letter to the home office saying that they felt like they were on a pnson they felt like they were on a prison barge. they didn't want to come back. they didn't want to come back. they didn't want to be here at all. they talked about their health about how their mental health suffered during those four suffered during just those four days they were on board. days that they were on board. and on board, they will be and but on board, they will be they received a letter a couple of days ago say that they of days ago to say that they will be returning to the bibby stockholm no stockholm and they have no choice that matter. en choice in that matter. so en route, are , as i say, they route, they are, as i say, they should be here around midday ish

and there's going to be lots of welcome packs that are going to be dished out to them. the people from stand up to racism have been making these welcome packs for the last few weeks and months. they contain all sorts of things from notepads to postcards to information on helplines that they can get in touch with. should they need to as i say, not much happening at the moment, but we should be expecting the first of the first of the buses is at around midday today . today. >> jeff, when you when you talk to the people like the stand up to racism crowd al fayed, is there objection just of the standard of accommodation that's being provided ? being provided? >> do they ever have a solution that they might want to fill us in on that might be more cost effective and perhaps also more luxurious for well , you know what? >> when i talk to the stand up to racism a lot, they don't talk back to me. this is part of the problem. they don't want to

engage with gb news in any shape or form. they look straight through me. so will notice through me. so you will notice that here now having that they are here now having media all of the media interviews with all of the other bbc, itv, sky. but other media. bbc, itv, sky. but they won't be to us they won't be talking to us until fortunately, because they believe given too believe that we have given too much to the other much prominence to the other side of the argument. the no to the barge side. but listening to what say people , what they say to other people, yes, that is exactly right. they say that the main issue is that that be treated that refugees should be treated with and more with more dignity and more respect. they talk about the fact refugees have come on fact that refugees have come on on a dangerous sea crossing, not just from france to the uk, but in the initial part of their journey to that, putting them on water is cruel in itself. some form of torture. and they're saying that they really shouldn't be packed onto a barge with so many people per room. but that's as far as i can tell you from their opinion, because they won't talk to me directly. >> yeah. so that doesn't seem to be a solution . be a solution. >> that's a criticism of the barge, i guess the question then , as bev alluded to, is where

would you put them in stead, i can understand why people don't think the barge is the best type of accommodation, but when you've got thousands coming across the channel what, every month, where where are they supposed to go? more hotels . is supposed to go? more hotels. is jeff still with and then of course, there's the cost issue. >> you know i am yes . course, there's the cost issue. >> you know i am yes. i mean, they talk about how this is supposed to save money. it's saving taxpayers money, but it's cost £8 million so far. and they've only been in here. >> i they were taken straight out again. >> so it is not proving as as successful in terms of saving money as the home office would like. okay >> thank you so much, jeff. do do keep us posted. won't you, on events down there as one of our awesome reporters . thank you. do awesome reporters. thank you. do you know what emily? do you know what i find amazing? if you feel so strongly about any issue, i don't care what it is. whether it's about immigration or

anything. and a media outlet gives you the opportunity to have heard. what is have your voice heard. what is it stops you? those people it that stops you? those people down there to stand up to racism that won't come on gb news if you think that are part of you think that we are part of the problem, then come tell the problem, then come and tell us we're the problem. us we're part of the problem. >> yeah, know what? you >> yeah, but you know what? you know welsh parliament know the welsh parliament gb news from their news is now banned from their internal system. hmm. internal television system. hmm. i if it's because gb i do wonder if it's because gb news has highlighting thing news has been highlighting thing migrant in wales and some migrant hotels in wales and some of the reaction from local communities . liz i think, you communities. liz i think, you know, they don't like the fact that we look into issues that other broadcasters choose to ignore for the very fact that stand up to racism will talk to every other media outlet, there would suggest that every other media outlet is echoing what they want to hear and they want to exist in an echo chamber, whereas allow a media organisation like us to represent both sides of the story because that's all we ever try to do. >> and that sort of lack of debate and lack of free speech that sort of censorship. >> but you know what? i bet

there are people who want to talk to jeff, but they probably feel peer pressure not to because jeff. because look at jeff. >> he's a perfectly friendly, fantastic journalist. they're wanting people have wanting to hear what people have to he might moody by name, >> he might be moody by name, but is not nature. so if but it is not by nature. so if you are down there, have a chat to on behalf gb to jeff moody on behalf of gb news. always welcome news. you're always welcome here. everybody have here. we let everybody have their say right? sadly, we cannot his cannot let tony mcguire have his say. the weather. we say. i'm blaming the weather. we can't get the connection to him up scotland. we saw the clip up in scotland. we saw the clip of with gb news umbrella of him with his gb news umbrella being absolutely battered by the weather. to going carry weather. we are to going carry on get tony, on trying to get hold of tony, but for now, we have lost him. right. come this right. still to come this morning, according new morning, according to new research, 150,000 children will be can be homeless by 2030. what can the government to stop this ? the government do to stop this? you are with britain's newsroom on

patrick christys on gb news and gb news . gb news. radio. >> right, it is 1122. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, emily carver and bev turner right. >> so by 2030, 150,000 children will be homeless and living in b&bs and other emergency accommodation, according to new research from the national housing federation. >> britain is now in the >> yes, britain is now in the midst housing emergency, midst of a housing emergency, says the boss of one leading housing association. and that's a theme at the heart of keir starmer's speech last week at labour conference. our economics and editor liam and business editor liam halligan report for us halligan has this report for us on this bedfordshire building site, dream cars are being made of a safe and permanent home. >> this project is led by grand

union , a not for profit housing union, a not for profit housing association in they're building 40 social housing units here for low income and vulnerable families paying below market rents. but with over a million households on the council house waiting list, these much needed homes barely scratch the surface. >> i think when we have 150,000 children sleep in temporary accommodation and it's not really temporary because some of it has lasted over ten years, then that is an emergency. we're damaging people's futures. this kyrees photo for ian and cheryl jarvis, social housing became their only option when their daughter kyrees was diagnosed with hydrocephalus . with hydrocephalus. >> kyrees unable to walk or talk life in a seventh floor flat became impossible . all for this became impossible. all for this close knit family . close knit family. >> we were paying over the odds for private renting. so even though we had two wages at the time, once carers came along, the wages started to dwindle because needing to be because we were needing to be more out of work. so then to

look after, to look after the daughter was always daughter because she was always in visits. so so she, in hospital visits. so so she, it just became too, too expensive then if we'd have carried be in the carried on trying to be in the private private side , we would private private side, we would have would just we would have we would have just we would have we would have just we would have worse off have been probably worse off than been flat on than we were. we'd been flat on our faces. >> by 2030, the national housing federation estimate rates 1.5 million low income and vulnerable households will be on the waiting list for affordable social housing. that's a third more than today. social housing. that's a third more than today . as a result, more than today. as a result, 150,000 children will be living in temporary accommodation , such in temporary accommodation, such as bed and breakfasts and emergency hostels. that's six children in every school in the country, essentially , we can't country, essentially, we can't shower for ian and cheryl , given shower for ian and cheryl, given kerry's special needs , grand kerry's special needs, grand union has been a life saver. >> i dread to think where he would be if we'd be together or separated. we wouldn't if enabled to be living with our daughter because she needs a lot of equipment and she needs a 24

hour care. um, so yeah, i don't know where we'd be without grand union and being in this house. >> inaya elsewhere in bedfordshire is grand union's newly built camomile gardens sheltered accommodation for social tenants aged 55 plus. jacqui recently lost her leg in an accident. she says living here is a godsend . but social here is a godsend. but social housing is a lottery . housing is a lottery. >> there seems to be an area where some people are struggling to get anywhere and others just seem to be lucky . i don't know seem to be lucky. i don't know how other way to explain it. >> the media focussed on home ownership, alien evans says the need for more social housing is often ignored, but the alternative is the state subsidising vulnerable families to rent on the open market. >> successive government need to invest in social housing, othennise we will consign families to lives where their futures are stolen and we'll have a burgeoning housing

benefit bill that will cost the taxpayer far more than building social housing in the first place. >> while rishi sunak failed to mention housing in his party conference speech , keir starmer conference speech, keir starmer put more homes at the centre of his offer to voters . this could his offer to voters. this could be the issue that decides the next general election . liam next general election. liam halligan gb news in bedfordshire i >> -- >> so thank you for that. liam. are you joining us now to discuss this? we've got this warning about the fact we're not going have enough houses, so that means surely that politicians are going to leap into action build a load into action and build a load more as more house as if. >> we often focussed on >> look, we often focussed on houses for people to buy, particularly young people. we often on the british dream often focus on the british dream often focus on the british dream of home ownership. but know, of home ownership. but you know, at sharp of the housing at the sharp end of the housing market where there is real vulnerability income vulnerability, low income families, misery , you've families, human misery, you've got what we call social housing, that's housing. it's that's social housing. it's council housing and it's housing associated by not for profit housing association is like grand union that i was just featuring there. and the national housing federation,

that's the umbrella group for all housing associations , all housing associations, nafions all housing associations, nations their research. it's nations and their research. it's pretty alarming that the council house list is going to house waiting list is going to go house waiting list is going to 9° up house waiting list is going to 90 “p by house waiting list is going to go up by a third by 2030. but you know what? in the last 40 years, there have only been three years when we've built more social housing than we've demolished or sold. so the stock of social housing is getting smaller and smaller and smaller all the time . um, and i'm, you all the time. um, and i'm, you know, i like free markets and i like people to be able to buy their own homes. i grew up in a first generation home ownership family, and it transformed my parents lives. but i'm really mindful . parents lives. but i'm really mindful. bull that parents lives. but i'm really mindful . bull that there's a mindful. bull that there's a whole world out there where people, you know, good council housing fantastic. it gives housing is fantastic. it gives security you get security of tenure. you get a lower rent. it means people with lower rent. it means people with lower income jobs can live among the community. certainly in city centres and so on. it makes things work. but then you've also got this other area where because isn't enough because there isn't enough social enough council social housing, enough council housing, the state pays private landlords to put up social

tenants and the conditions of those housing that housing is often terrible because frankly the state just doesn't want to know because it doesn't want to unearth problems. >> don't we actually have more social housing, though? >> proportion of housing >> as a proportion of housing stock country than stock in this country than elsewhere europe is not the elsewhere in europe is not the issue we just have a lack issue that we just have a lack of supply across across the board? well in 1979, 1 in 3 families in the uk were in social housing. >> it's now 13. 1 in 3. yep. 1 in 3 in 1979. it's now 13. so it's fallen a lot. and my instincts are perhaps along the lines of yours. emily, why do we need so i'm not saying you're saying that, but surely the market can provide . but there market can provide. but there are many families because they're vulnerable or they're justin they're vulnerable or they're just in jobs that don't command enough money. yeah, the economy produces those kinds of jobs. they still want to work. they're still they can still dignified people. they can raise you know, ian jarvis raise kids. you know, ian jarvis there in his family. what an amazing family. incredibly dignified people. and yet . dignified people. and yet. >> sorry to interrupt, but we have a situation in central

london where there is social housing that people have been sitting in for decades, passed it down to generations in areas where if that was on the private market, it would be out of reach of most people on very good jobs and incomes . what's going on and incomes. what's going on there? >> well, the model is that you want some people living in certain parts of the country so they can do jobs that need to be done and that they want to do for money. i mean, this is this is. but the much bigger picture is. but the much bigger picture is that across the country, there is a massive social housing waiting list across the country. there are some housing associations that are doing a good job, but some that aren't . good job, but some that aren't. new figures out from the government's housing ombudsman shows a record number of complaints of severe maladministration, up from . 31 maladministration, up from. 31 to 131 last year. that's where families health has been undermined seriously by the state of their housing. this is dickensian and the really big picture for those of us who are interested in, you know, the

government running fiscal policy properly and value for money. the really big issue, emily, is that because we don't have enough social housing long, the state has to pay housing benefits to pay the rent for people to have often not good private sector accommodation that housing benefit bill. emily it's £25 billion a year, so it's a false economy. absolutely massive. so we should be shifting the subsidy for housing at the lower end of the market with huge respect from benefits and into bricks. if the state builds those homes or for facilitates the building of those homes , then that's on the those homes, then that's on the state's balance sheet and that's much, much cheaper, better value for money, better for the families concerned for the state to actually own the housing and or for the state to lease the housing long term from private sector providers who are regulated. this is how it works in other countries. very few other countries spend tens of billions of pounds equivalent a year building buy to let empires for private sector landlords with social tenants. yes, it's

really , really bad use of state money. >> it really is. liam, thank you so much. right. still to come this morning to ask, a ban . this morning to ask, a ban. >> jk rowling has said she is willing to go to jail amid fears i >> -- >> oh, say that again to ask a ban. what is azkaban? >> it's a very well known something from harry potter. okay. something something. it's a prison. it's a prison in harry potter. so she's willing jk rowling. this is willing to go to jail. amid fears misgendering someone could become a crime in scotland and no longer working, the recent air traffic control meltdown was made worse by computer engineers working from home. >> funny that , that and much >> funny that, that and much more after your morning's news with rhiannon . with rhiannon. >> it's 1132. your top stories from the newsroom . the prime from the newsroom. the prime minister has met with families in israel whose loved ones are being held hostage by hamas following the attacks on october

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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back. it is 1138. we have got carole malone and sam lester back in the studio with us this morning. >> we do indeed. >> we do indeed. >> another all female panel in the absence of andrew pierce. i don't think he'll mind. >> well, you can't cut it. >> well, you can't cut it. >> no, he can't. he won't mind. >> no, he can't. he won't mind. >> i believe we've got >> but i believe we've got a spot of spot of weather. oh do we? >> not yet. not yet? well, not yet. >> there is a spot of weather coming over the horizon, and in fact, stops us talking to fact, it stops us talking to tony mcguire up scotland . but tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's about jk rowling,

tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's we? about jk rowling, tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's we? right. k rowling, tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's we? right. solowling, tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's we? right. so she ng, tony mcguire up in scotland. but let's we? right. so she has said shall we? right. so she has said , that will happily shall we? right. so she has said , two that will happily shall we? right. so she has said , two years will happily shall we? right. so she has said , two years in will happily shall we? right. so she has said , two years in jailill happily shall we? right. so she has said , two years in jail if happily shall we? right. so she has said , two years in jail if aappily shall we? right. so she has said , two years in jail if a future do two years in jail if a future labour government made it a hate crime to call someone by the wrong pronouns . she if wrong pronouns. so she means if you here and said, bev, you came in here and said, bev, today man and i want you today i am a man and i want you today i am a man and i want you to call me mr malone. and i said, carole, don't be ridiculous . you are mrs. malone. ridiculous. you are mrs. malone. that me in jail. that could end me in jail. >> in the next >> i'm going to be in the next cell for her because this is, you know, i never used to like jk rowling until got on. jk rowling until she got on. until started supporting until she started supporting women's rights way. women's rights in this way. and now and i think she's now i love it. and i think she's one of the bravest people on the planet. she she the planet. and she she said the other day, know, i'm happy other day, you know, i'm happy to taking the hit on on to keep taking the hit on on this women's rights thing. and she said, because i can afford to. you can't cancel me. although try the trans although they did try the trans activist, they did try to get our publishers to drop her. but the publishers too smart the publishers were too smart and, she's worth £1 and, you know, she's worth £1 billion. can take them billion. so she can take them on. she's basically on. and what she's basically said know, i'm not going said is, you know, i'm not going to a trans woman a woman. to call a trans woman a woman. i'm going do it i'm just not to going do it even i'm just not to going do it ever. you know, when i hear ever. and, you know, when i hear the party this is what

the labour party this is what they're going to bring are they're going to bring are they're going to bring are they're going make you serve they're going to make you serve jail if they think you have jail time if they think you have misgendered someone. so think misgendered someone. so i think starmer, he does starmer, i love it when he does this stuff because i think, you know, you're going single know, you're going to single handedly your of handedly wrecking your chance of winning because winning the election because he doesn't core doesn't understand that his core voters he's an idiot. voters will think he's an idiot. they'll is completely they'll think this is completely and stupid. they and utterly stupid. they know what a woman and they're not what a woman is and they're not going have likes of keir going to have the likes of keir starmer the elites in the starmer or the elites in the labour party telling them othennise. labour party telling them oth butse. fact that they would >> but the fact that they would do this, sam, after well, the pnson do this, sam, after well, the prison issue very much taking down nicola sturgeon, at least in part . but down nicola sturgeon, at least in part. but why? why make this a point ? a point? >> i mean actually keir starmer shifted his position significantly after that case because he saw quite how badly that could go for the party. this this isn't a formal proposal. it's something that's been mooted. you wonder if this is people in labor party floating this just to see what kind of reaction would be. it would be crackers to do it, because essentially if you went down this road, well, first of all, if you put this in your

manifesto, so many women will just back away from you in droves. but secondly, if you actually went through with it, you would create , you know, you would create, you know, martyrs , martyrs. it would be martyrs, martyrs. it would be a ridiculous proposal. also, we haven't got prison prices to put women in. that's true . there is women in. that's true. there is no space for and i bet you there's 5—1 someone who i guess i guess the counter to this just to provide some balance on this one is i guess they mean if you misgender someone with spite and hateful for hateful reasons. >> so if you were trying to belittle someone who is, it's what they regard as spite. >> you know, if a trans if a trans woman said to me that i had to come home, i would say, no, i'm sorry. that's not my belief. that is your belief. and live your best life as that. but it is not my belief because what the trans thing is, it's a belief system. >> i wouldn't the thing is, on an individual level, i still would respect the pronoun that somebody them me to somebody would want them me to call them on an individual level

being polite and but that's what i mean, that's being polite and civilised. >> i don't think there's a problem with that. about problem with that. this is about do to recognise do you have to recognise somebody who calls themselves isla is dressed in isla bryson who is dressed in leggings? man who leggings? he's clearly a man who has been convicted of two rapes and wants to be put in a women's prison. do you you know, is it a hate crime to call that person lisa man very recently lisa nandy a man very recently that would still support that she would still support putting woman in a putting a trans woman in a female prison? >> now , we saw the uproar of all >> now, we saw the uproar of all that we saw. that was the beginning of the end for nicola sturgeon, that her insistence of doing it really was. and yet lisa still says she would lisa nandy still says she would do that. j.k. rowling has do that. and j.k. rowling has taken her on. >> what and this is the >> that's what and this is the thing, actually, this actually although keir starmer has formally position in formally moved his position in the more people are the labour party more people are like lisa nandy than not. and so people will have to weigh that up when they're coming to decide who they vote for. and also, i would say on the spy point, actually see where is the consideration men who consideration for the men who are attacking women day in, day

out, or worse out, calling them terfs or worse , where is the consideration about the misogyny? yes, absolutely hatred towards women. it doesn't even factor well. >> labour have an answer for that too. they want to make misogyny a hate crime. it seems that will a hate that everything will be a hate crime. yes. >> and prison? they're going >> and the prison? they're going to build ten more. to have to build ten more. >> just what the police need. >> just what the police need. >> a it's just that it's they don't you know, the thing about >> a it's just that it's they d(neveru know, the thing about >> a it's just that it's they d(never ceases, the thing about >> a it's just that it's they d(never ceases to le thing about >> a it's just that it's they d(never ceases to amaze| about >> a it's just that it's they d(never ceases to amaze me.wut it never ceases to amaze me. >> they don't seem to understand their core. you know what's word they're electorate their electorate, voters . electorate, the core voters. they don't they seem to have lost them. they're lost touch with them. they're listening bubble live listening to a bubble that live in around westminster . in and work around westminster. they're to the they're not listening to the people red wall. people in the red wall. they're not listening to what call not listening to what i call ordinary, working people. ordinary, decent working people. they're not listening to them. and fears about this, and and their fears about this, and they're women. they're not listening to women. more and their fear more importantly. and their fear over erosion of and it was over the erosion of and it was the somebody had the fact that somebody had tweeted trans women are women. >> retweeted it and said no. >> she retweeted it and said no. and then it got into a conversation. she said , i'd conversation. she said, i'd happily do two years if the alternative is compelled speech

and denial of the reality and forced denial of the reality and forced denial of the reality and importance of sex. bring on the court case. i say it'll be more fun than i've ever had on a red carpet. >> jk rowling. she does not need to wade into this fight. she could be living a very quiet life, having a nice life of luxury, but she's this luxury, but she's doing this because strongly , because it is a strongly, strongly held belief and she wants to for women who and wants to fight for women who and i she's, as we've all i think she's, as we've all sensed, the political wind has changed this. changed on this. >> so now feels empowered >> so she now feels empowered and emboldened . and emboldened. >> got the women she's >> she she's got the women she's she change haven't she helped change but haven't been her. been for her. >> sharon davies , who they have >> sharon davies, who they have tried to cancel almost did talking wind. we have to go talking of wind. we have to go to the weather actually now we're just going to let you know what's it's an what's happening. it's an important weather. important day for weather. here. it surprise. it's different >> surprise. it's a different weather forecast. >> there yorkshire ray of >> is there yorkshire ray of sunshine michelle dewberry here to wish you beverley turner . yes to wish you beverley turner. yes your secret is out a very happy birthday . birthday. >> say happy birthday to my gorgeous girlfriend bev turner. >> hey old girl happy birthday . >> hey old girl happy birthday. >> hey old girl happy birthday.

>> hey, you're catching me up beverley happy birthday, love you loads. >> have a brilliant day . >> have a brilliant day. >> have a brilliant day. >> happy birthday , bev. you're >> happy birthday, bev. you're so old. happy birthday for saturday, bev. i really hope you have a wonderful day with you and your family. and thank you for everything that you do here at gb news. >> happy birthday to you. >> happy birthday to you. >> happy birthday , dear bev. >> happy birthday, dear bev. happy birthday to you too. >> hi beverley . good morning. >> hi beverley. good morning. that's my mum and dad . happy that's my mum and dad. happy birthday for this weekend as well. roger. who'd have thought ? well. roger. who'd have thought? >> i'm not going to say how many years ago that beverley turner wouldn't go into playgroup? >> cried going into school , >> cried going into school, cried going to swimming lessons and cried when she had to go to brownies. it's a video for what, bev's birthday. >> all right. how old is she. oh

did you love it? >> that is so nice. well, i'm a little bit emotional now. >> thank you all so much. my poor dad didn't get a word in edgeways. that's typical my mother as you can see, we come from family of cheshire. from a family of cheshire. >> though. >> women was good, though. >> women was good, though. >> really good. i think >> she was really good. i think what point mum was trying to what the point mum was trying to make is that you were a cry baby. i'm hysterical. we know what pint was trying what pint she was trying to make. >> what she's trying to make, which that which she's made before, is that i very, very, very i was always very, very, very shy and i wouldn't ever speak in public. >> and i think i wouldn't do anything, really. so the point >> and i think i wouldn't do an my ng, really. so the point >> and i think i wouldn't do an my mum ally. so the point >> and i think i wouldn't do an my mum was so the point >> and i think i wouldn't do an my mum was making)oint >> and i think i wouldn't do an my mum was making and there of my mum was making and there she talking on the telly. she is talking on the telly. thank you all much. it is thank you all so much. it is my 50th on saturday. do not mind 50th on saturday. i do not mind admitting it. we've got go to admitting it. we've got to go to rishi he's not wishing me rishi sunak. he's not wishing me happy birthday. is. happy birthday. here he is. >> fought the 80 years ago. >> you fought the 80 years ago. absolutely. and the entire world supported action. president absolutely. and the entire world suppo called action. president absolutely. and the entire world suppo called hamas n. president absolutely. and the entire world suppo called hamas n. presthan biden called hamas worse than isis. he's right to hamas are the new. they're the new isis . the new. they're the new isis. and we have to fight them together just as the world, the

civilised world, united to fight the and united to fight hamas. it must together now stand with israel as we fight and defeat. defeat hamas. this is not merely our battle. it's the battle of the entire civilised world. it's the entire civilised world. it's the battle of israel . it's the the battle of israel. it's the battle of the moderate arab countries . it's the battle of countries. it's the battle of western civilisation, the battle of the free world, the battle for the future. we have here two forces, one is an axis of evil led by iran through hezbollah , led by iran through hezbollah, hamas and others that want to bnng hamas and others that want to bring back the middle east to the middle ages, to an age of bondage and bondage and war and slavery and annihilation. and the other force is the forces of progress and humanity that want to push the middle east into a world of peace and prosperity. we are on the cusp of expanding that peace and destroying that move was one of the reasons why this action was taken. we have to resist it and we have to win. above all, we have to win. we

have to release the hostages. you have national understand that. i know you do that we have their children , babies, women their children, babies, women and elderly holocaust survivors and elderly holocaust survivors and your nationals. and we have to work together in every way possible. and we're doing that to get them back . i appreciate to get them back. i appreciate the fact that you also sent some military forces into the region. we discussed practical cooperation on many fronts , and cooperation on many fronts, and i value that very much. 80 years ago, 80 years ago, prime minister , the civilised world minister, the civilised world stood with you in your darkest houn stood with you in your darkest hour. this is our darkest hour. it's the world's darkest hour. we need to stand together for and we want to win . and this is and we want to win. and this is why support . i and we want to win. and this is why support. i value your support and the fact that you're here. we must win together . that here. we must win together. that means that this is a long war and we'll need your continued support , continuous support.

support, continuous support. there'll be ups and downs. there'll be ups and downs. there'll be ups and downs. there'll be difficulties . the there'll be difficulties. the people here are united. they're prepared to take the necessary action. i've never seen the people of israel as united more united than they are now . but we united than they are now. but we need that unity across the board and continuous support as we prosecute and win this just war is against the modern barbarians . the worst monsters on the planet. thank you , rishi, for planet. thank you, rishi, for coming here. well prime minister, thank you for your warm words and for welcoming me to israel . to israel. >> i'm just sorry to be here in such terrible circumstances in the last two weeks, this country has gone through something that no country, no people should have to endure, least of all israel, which has lived through some of the most awful scenes. the spectre of violence and terrorism every day of its existence. and i want to share the deep condolences of the british people and stressed that we absolutely support israel's

right to defend itself in line with international law, to go after hamas, to take back hostages, to deter further incursions and to strengthen your security for the long term. now i know that you are taking every precaution to avoid harming civilians in direct contrast to the terrorists of hamas, which seek to put civilians in harm's way. but i also want to thank you for the support that your government has given to the families of british nationals caught up in this horror, including your efforts to hostages , secure to release the hostages, secure their release. and i know that we will continue to cooperate, particularly with regard to the british nationals that are involved . i also say that we involved. i also say that we have seen the scenes over the past day that have shocked all of us, and particularly at the hospital and we mourn the loss of every innocent life, civilians of every faith, every nationality killed nationality who have been killed . also recognise that the . and we also recognise that the palestinian people are victims of hamas , too. and that is why

of hamas, too. and that is why i welcome your decision yesterday that you took to ensure that routes into gaza will be opened for humanitarian aid to enter. i'm glad that you made that decision . we will support it. we decision. we will support it. we are increasing our aid to the region and we will look to get more support to people as quickly as we can. the last thing for me to close on is this. you describe this as israel's darkest hour . well, israel's darkest hour. well, then it's for me to say i'm proud to stand here with you in israel's darkest hour as your friend. we will stand with you in solidarity . we will stand in solidarity. we will stand with your people . and we also with your people. and we also want you to win. thank you . want you to win. thank you. thank you very much . thank you very much. >> well, that was very touching from rishi sunak there. we heard first from benjamin netanyahu and then rishi sunak, our prime minister, speaking to the media from israel, touching what he said . he made very clear that said. he made very clear that britain , the uk, stands with

britain, the uk, stands with israel, rail stands with the israeli people , but also talked israeli people, but also talked about the need to help those in in in gaza, in terms of aid, humanitarian aid , aid. humanitarian aid, aid. >> having discussed this morning carol and sam with are still with us having having been discussing this morning whether he should be there or not. i have to say, seeing him stand there, i was a little bit cynical about and what cynical about it. and what what benefit it have seeing him benefit could it have seeing him stand sam, on that stage stand there, sam, on that stage with jack , next to with the union jack, next to the israeli i it now. i israeli flag. i get it now. i get it. i understand why he needed to be there. that was really special. >> i also you >> it was. and i think also you saw tone from netanyahu. saw the tone from netanyahu. there i think that tone is important. and it's created almost by the pm's influence and his decision to go there, to stand by them, to have these frank talks behind the scenes. and you see that reflected then in the way that israel responds publicly . and i think that is publicly. and i think that is important. and i think actually the words there about the

darkest time that the uk went through 80 years ago and how this is israel's darkest time and we need to be there for them. and i thought that was very powerful actually. >> and you know what it made me realise, carol, haven't realise, carol, we haven't really sunak his really seen rishi sunak in his sort conflict situation like sort of conflict situation like this, lead, of this, taking the lead, of course, ukraine, boris every five was, was five minutes he was, he was p°ppi"9 “p five minutes he was, he was popping up there, whereas this, this a i thought was very good. >> i thought it was, i thought it was very good too. and i thought netanyahu was was i thought netanyahu was was i thought was conciliatory a thought he was conciliatory in a way seen until way that i haven't seen until now. yeah. my only fear among all is he very clearly all of that is he very clearly took a side and i think there will be people in the middle east where where there is already anger protests about already anger and protests about the . i think that may inflame the uk. i think that may inflame them . i don't know what else. them. i don't know what else. i mean, i think he has to be there. get me wrong. there. don't get me wrong. i think he has to be. and i thought that was very emotional. but that will inflame but i can see that will inflame the other side. just as biden's visit did. >> i guess is that you >> i guess the view is that you can't appease, you can't appease those who you harm. those who wish you harm. >> and was clear, emily, in >> and he was clear, emily, in

saying that the saying that, you know, that the loss every innocent life a loss of every innocent life is a tragedy. he clear about tragedy. he was clear about talking palestinian loss talking about palestinian loss of so is good. but my of life. so that is good. but my fear is that people who are entrenched against the uk that will make them even more so. >> yeah, that was very touching actually. >> we stand with you in your darkest hour. yeah, very sombre , darkest hour. yeah, very sombre, touching the right tone. >> i and actually if you were watching at home and you've been watching at home and you've been watching that particularly if you are in the jewish community email our inbox today and let pip mark how you felt pip and mark know how you felt about that and did that was it in some way i wonder whether there's some sort of healing to be moving fonnard? be had moving fonnard? >> that very much felt like >> sam that very much felt like pounng >> sam that very much felt like pouring water on pouring oil on troubled waters , and i do think troubled waters, and i do think they got that just about right. as as carol says, we have to be especially looking into the weekend with potentially more protests. does it inflame tensions that's that's tensions here? that's that's also it, for also a concern, isn't it, for the authorities? also a concern, isn't it, for the and lorities? also a concern, isn't it, for the and|orities?this also a concern, isn't it, for theand|orities?this is also a concern, isn't it, for the and|orities?this is this also a concern, isn't it, for theand|orities?this is this is >> and i think this is this is the thing, isn't it? it really is. is impossible to say what israel should do next, what

restraint looks like, what what is for them . but i is legitimate for them. but i think they are also very conscious of the fact that you you you don't want to inflame this even further. this has been the worst atrocity of our generation . and you you have to generation. and you you have to find some way through this. and just blasting things is not is not going to actually find a solution every day . solution every day. >> a solution is it the numbers of the palestine deaths of civilian dead goes up and it's probably double that of israelis now. and, you know, i can see that inflaming tensions even. but i'm worried about the but i'm very worried about the situation. mean the middle but i'm very worried about the situ middle mean the middle but i'm very worried about the situ middle east1 the middle but i'm very worried about the situ middle east is the middle but i'm very worried about the situ middle east is raging ddle the middle east is raging currently. yeah tehran this morning is raging. and you just think, how are we going to they end up going to be they're not going to be soothed by that, are they? >> no, not particularly. lots of you in our inbox today talking about the fact that you didn't think necessarily prime minister should but also that should be there, but also that you should. and me know if you should. and let me know if that appearance there has changed mind. we've changed your mind. right. we've come of the show for

come to the end of the show for today also this week. today and also for this week. it's lovely having you. it's been lovely having you. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> will back

brit >> good afternoon. it is midday this is the live desk here on gb news coming up this thursday lunchtime . lunchtime. >> i'm the breaking news this hour. >> i'm the breaking news this hour . hamas >> i'm the breaking news this hour. hamas say that the head of their national security forces , their national security forces, jihad muhsin, has been killed in

an israeli airstrike as well as members of his family, it's believed in gaza . believed in gaza. >> prime minister rishi sunak has just given a press conference with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he's also been meeting the families of british victims and those still missing in gaza. >> he says israel has a right to self—defence in line with international law . international law. >> another headlines here in the uk, asylum seekers set to return to the bibby stockholm barge two months after it was cleared when legionella bacteria was found in the water supply. we're live in portland for the latest . portland for the latest. >> plus , there is a red warning, >> plus, there is a red warning, a risk to life in scotland as storm babet heralds a month of rain in a day with some 70 mile

an hour winds. the rnli has just