humanitare access to increased humanitare access to gaza. increased humanitare access to gaza . earlier, trucks carrying gaza. earlier, trucks carrying humanitarian aid reached southern gaza after the rafah crossing on the border with egypt was opened for the first time in two weeks. right wing in the telegraph, rishi sunak said the telegraph, rishi sunak said the world is facing an acute crisis. israel imposed a blockade preventing the delivery of food, water and fuel after the hamas terror attack . the hamas terror attack. meanwhile israel's prime minister has vowed to continue to fight until all hostages being held by hamas are freed . being held by hamas are freed. it's after two american citizens , judith raanan and her 17 year old daughter, natalie , were old daughter, natalie, were released yesterday . hamas says released yesterday. hamas says the decision was made on humanitarian grounds. it's believed more than 200 people are still being held by the terrorist group pro—palestinian protests have been taking place in cities across the uk . ten in cities across the uk. ten arrests were made in connection with a protest through central london with five police officers receiving minor injuries. an

estimated 100,000 people took part in salford. a group marched to the bbc's media city headquarters over the corporation's reporting of the israel hamas conflict and around 2000 people also took to the streets in belfast. their calling for an end to the conflict in the middle east and demanding the government stop supporting israel's actions . in supporting israel's actions. in other news, tributes are being paid to sir bobby charlton , who paid to sir bobby charlton, who has died at the age of 86. he was a key member of england's world cup, winning team in 1966 and a club legend at manchester united. his family said he passed peacefully in the early hours of this morning, united players wore a black armband for the game against sheffield united tonight and the prince of wales , who's president of the wales, who's president of the fa, called him a true great who will be remembered forever . the will be remembered forever. the environment agency is warning floods are likely to continue near major rivers in england

until tuesday. storm babet is dumping heavy rain in parts of the east midlands and south yorkshire . nottinghamshire yorkshire. nottinghamshire county council has declared declared a major incident with a severe flood warning in derby. the city's council says that its experience icing the highest recorded water levels of the river dennent with roads flooded across the city. this is gb news, across the uk on tv , in news, across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's time for headliners as . headliners as. >> hello and welcome to headliners i'm nik dixon, taking you through tomorrow's top stories for the next hour with the help of steve and alan, there he is an cressida , an there he is an cressida, an wetton. i added a little engine in the end . stands for no longer in the end. stands for no longer living on a boat. >> well, thanks very much. yeah.

in other news, if anyone wants to buy a boat, then how much . to buy a boat, then how much. how much does your house cost? >> well, this could be a good time to do it because you just saw the pictures of all the flooding in nottinghamshire. >> you want to it there? >> you want to sell it up there? >> you want to sell it up there? >> i had a pound for >> oh, if i had a pound for every time somebody says you'll be all right a i be all right in a flood, i wouldn't boat. wouldn't need to sell my boat. >> it's funny, i've got an ofcom straight for illegally selling a boat. straight for illegally selling a boaanyway, away with it >> anyway, they got away with it on . on bullseye. >> good point. and we very >> good point. and we are very much bull's eye of the much the bull's eye of the modern era. let's do the headunes modern era. let's do the headlines tomorrow headlines now for tomorrow and the sunday. the mail on sunday. >> we will strike >> has israel. we will strike head the snake. the sunday head of the snake. the sunday telegraph goes with us, tells sunak ban iran terror guards . sunak ban iran terror guards. the observer has us holding back israel from strike against hezbollah . the sunday times. hezbollah. the sunday times. hamas chiefs lives in british council house. shocking story we're getting into in a moment. the sunday mirror we will never forget him and nor will football. and finally , the daily football. and finally, the daily star, our hero. tears for world cup legend sir bobby charlton. and front pages .

and those were your front pages. all right, let's kick off with the sunday mirror. steve. >> so they go with we will never forget him and nor will football and i'll admit i'm not i don't know much about football. >> i remember my dad, who loved football, absolutely loved this 9113’- football, absolutely loved this guy. understand. and it guy. so i understand. and it makes sense why this is such an impactful that touches impactful story that touches many people. can many people. you can tell. i think you always tell how think you can always tell how much leaving this earth much someone leaving this earth will impact people is by how many pages are dedicated to them. so it says a tribute to them. so it says a tribute to the to the great story the to the great full story pages seven, pages four, five, six, seven, eight, and sport. don't eight, nine. and sport. don't you feel slightly sorry for the sports the end sports section at the end of that what's you've that going what's left you've just half a newspaper on just done half a newspaper on it, but you look at his age and you realise that we're going to live through a time where we're going to be saying goodbye to a lot greats. lot of greats. >> yes, sir. bobby an >> yes, sir. bobby charlton, an absolute in my absolute legend. legend in my house, united, house, being a man united, supporting he survived supporting house. he survived the goal the munich air crash. his goal scoring record. he was leading goal england man

goal scorer for england and man united 40 years until united for over 40 years until wayne rooney took it. these wayne rooney took it. and these were tappings . wayne rooney took it. and these were tappings. his were not like tappings. his goals were like incredible, like 30 yard shots, loads of them. i remember wasn't remember this. this wasn't a time you had like modern time when you had like modern boots, adidas predator boots, like adidas predator or whatever is. i'm showing whatever it is. i'm showing my age because about age there because that's about 20 old. this was like age there because that's about 20 boots d. this was like age there because that's about 20 boots and this was like age there because that's about 20 boots and likeis was like age there because that's about 20 boots and like the as like age there because that's about 20 boots and like the ball(e age there because that's about 20 boots and like the ball was work boots and like the ball was like a medicine ball, like a big orange medicine ball. so this guy super strength guy had to have super strength just able shoot that just to be able to shoot that far. think, far. what do you think, cressida? sounds like cressida? i think he sounds like a top bloke. >> i don't know. i'm not a football person, as you know, but i do impression he but i do get the impression he was clean living gentleman was a clean living gentleman compared some the tales compared to some of the tales you or he just you hear about today. or he just didn't a smartphone. didn't have a smartphone. i don't true. everyone's >> that is true. everyone's spoken his amazing spoken about his amazing character well as his character as well as his incredible that is incredible talent. so that is sir bobby sadly died sir bobby charlton. sadly died at have a look at the at 86. let's have a look at the sunday times. steve oh, is it crescent? crescent? >> it's me. we're often mistaken for each yes, same middle for each other. yes, same middle initial. that's right. hamas chief lives in british council house. so a fugitive who ran the group's terrorist operations in

the west bank was given a british passport and has recently bought a home with £112,000 discount. you can buy a lot of narrowboats for that. so some of us are a bit bitter about that. so this guy, he he's he came to the uk on a fake sorry, not a fake. a borrowed passport bought. so he really shouldn't in shouldn't have been here in the first place. and then saying here recently as 2019, he here as recently as 2019, he took part in official hamas delegation to moscow, where he met vladimir putin's deputy foreign he's the foreign minister. so he's the real deal. this isn't a this isn't a mistake. >> right. it's unbelievable. i mean, how is he here? i mean, normally you shouldn't be able to get a passport if you have if for anyone that incites justifies or glorifies terrorist violence , it seems like we're violence, it seems like we're pretty much this guy's expertise is. so has he got around it because he's part of the political of yeah political wing of hamas? yeah that's it like. that's what it seems like. >> like, oh, no, >> it was like, oh, no, no. we're i'm working for the we're we're i'm working for the political side of it. so i don't get the strike against my name . get the strike against my name. >> i've never even met the military we're completely military side. we're completely

separate. same separate. same name, same everything . yeah. except everything. yeah. except they've got postcode for any got guns, same postcode for any official letters, but we're totally the how is the totally separate the how is the headune? >> just not oops, this is just such an embarrassment, isn't it? and winding people there and winding people up that there are people who can't are so many people who can't get on ladder hear on the housing ladder to hear that should have been that what you should have been doing doing of doing is maybe doing a bit of hamas work. it's also proof that working can working from home really can lead things remote lead to bad things remote working. mean , i know jacob working. i mean, i know jacob rees—mogg doesn't like the idea of it, but it really can go worse working from, of it, but it really can go worsknow, working from, of it, but it really can go worsknow, working rking from, of it, but it really can go worsknow, working from from, of it, but it really can go worsknow, working from your, you know, working from your spare room. yes. >> well, i'm glad you've got a light—hearted take on but it light—hearted take on it, but it is. to try. with is. you've got to try. and with this is it is a this show. but it is it is a total humiliation. it's totally it's insult, really to it's an insult, really to british people. 112,000 discount. mortgage british people. 112,000 discouihouse. mortgage british people. 112,000 discouihouse. mean mortgage british people. 112,000 discouihouse. mean,nortgage british people. 112,000 discouihouse. mean , it's gage british people. 112,000 discouihouse. mean , it's just on his house. i mean, it's just as it be. how how as bad as it could be. how how do rid of these people? do we get rid of these people? >> that's not the bit you should be angry about, though. i be really angry about, though. i guess the work for guess it would be. the work for hamas be his worst trait hamas should be his worst trait rather than he's got rather than he's not got a mortgage. rather than he's not got a mo whats. rather than he's not got a mo what i is insult to >> what i mean is it's insult to injury. i think we're all accepting the work of hamas accepting that the work of hamas is part and it's is the main part and it's dangerous. mean, he lives

dangerous. i mean, he lives near synagogues. kind synagogues. it's just kind of yeah, picked worst area yeah, he's picked the worst area to go to, hasn't he? >> heaviest >> it's like the heaviest population people, population of jewish people, i think, our country. yeah. population of jewish people, i thirfifth our country. yeah. population of jewish people, i thirfifth of r country. yeah. population of jewish people, i thirfifth of the untry. yeah. population of jewish people, i thirfifth of the entire yeah. population of jewish people, i thirfifth of the entire jewish >> fifth of the entire jewish population and he population live in barnet and he gets there. i'm sure gets a house there. i'm sure they're delighted. >> all right. >> yeah. appalling. all right. what the front of the what is on the front page of the observer, steve? >> us holding israel from >> us holding israel back from strike is strike against hezbollah this is this one. this strike against hezbollah this is th about one. this strike against hezbollah this is th about not one. this strike against hezbollah this is th about not escalatingle. this strike against hezbollah this is th about not escalating further is about not escalating further and not trying to fight a war on two which historically two fronts, which historically doesn't go well. i suppose would be one way of looking at it. this the us stepping in and this is the us stepping in and also rishi involved and also rishi getting involved and trying there being trying to stop there being a striking hezbollah, bringing trying to stop there being a stranother hezbollah, bringing trying to stop there being a stranother sideiollah, bringing trying to stop there being a stranother side .wllah, bringing trying to stop there being a stranother side . i.ah, bringing trying to stop there being a stranother side . i don't'inging trying to stop there being a stranother side . i don't'iragree in another side. i don't i agree with not escalating and also you can understand from the point of view of america especially, you don't want it to escalate. the only they've been only time they've ever been involved any big wars involved in any of the big wars is it's escalated and they is when it's escalated and they get it. of get dragged into it. so of course, they keep things course, they want to keep things contained. it's right not to contained. but it's right not to want war two want to have a war on two fronts. if read in the fronts. if you read in the article, israel don't want article, even israel don't want article, even israel don't want a war on two fronts. so maybe this is more pressure this is more about this pressure to something . but if to try and do something. but if you the reticence on

you could blame the reticence on the then maybe you can have the us, then maybe you can have no escalation without any political downside from doing nothing. >> i what you yeah of >> i see what you mean. yeah of course. there's always to course. there's always going to be the hawks. going to be the hawks. there's going to be the hawks. there's going to be such horrific be emotion after such a horrific attack. we're attack. but yeah, i mean, we're not in a position or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a position or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in in a position or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a n a position or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a positiontion or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a position tot or us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a position to do us attack. but yeah, i mean, we're ncnot in a position to do this. is not in a position to do this. i economically, they're in i mean, economically, they're in massive going massive debt. how are they going to these multiple wars? to fund all these multiple wars? and what do you think? no, and what do you think? well, no, i agree. >> mean, it's. well, it's >> i mean, it's. well, and it's not even limited, is it? when you start a war, you don't know. the sky's limit on the the sky's the limit on the spending. the sky's the limit on the spendi lg. the sky's the limit on the spendi i g. know the sky's the limit on the spendi lg. know whether agree. i don't know whether anything will change when netanyahu goes. mean, i keep netanyahu goes. i mean, i keep reading in israel netanyahu goes. i mean, i keep re absolutely in israel netanyahu goes. i mean, i keep re absolutely with israel is absolutely fed up with him and that he's on his way out as soon the next soon as they have the next opportunity. know. opportunity. i don't know. >> times like >> but then there's times like this is when people kind of all get government. so get behind the government. so when will you be when will they be him at a time be to get rid of him at a time when seems you can have when it seems like you can have some turmoil instead of some internal turmoil instead of having enemy? having a common enemy? >> yeah. i i've >> right. yeah. and i also i've got would we have got to say again, would we have any this trump? mean, any of this with trump? i mean, the trump, we the deterrent of trump, we really strong america to really want a strong america to be a deterrent because once these started, it's these wars have started, it's

much want to much more difficult. you want to put you had the put them off. you had the democrats this democrats coming up with this russia meant russia hoax thing, which meant that strike that trump couldn't strike a deal with putin on trade. then you i don't know. i've got you had i don't know. i've got i'm getting soapbox again i'm getting on my soapbox again about suddenly about you're just suddenly disagreeing with everything. but anyway, pro trump rant. anyway, i made a pro trump rant. but sunday but let's do the sunday telegraph crescent . telegraph crescent. >> sunday telegraph, >> okay. the sunday telegraph, bbc sees israel reporting failures are a danger to jews. claims ex—executive. so this guy danny cohen, who used to work for the bbc, doesn't anymore, has writing about this kind has been writing about this kind of anti—israel bias that we talked about previously on this show . he says that the bbc's show. he says that the bbc's failures over its reporting of the recent the supposed bomb at the recent the supposed bomb at the hospital in the gaza strip, which turned out probably not to be a bomb. as we know, the bbc just rushed in and referred to it. he's talking about rush judgement over the explosion at the hospital when it announced without qualification that israel was responsible for the explosion an and tragic loss of life and of course then other news outlets up on that

news outlets picked up on that because we tend to trust the bbc. this is calling that bbc. but this is calling that into question, isn't it? yeah i think it is dangerous. >> and of course, what they've done now, they've sort of backtracked a little bit and they've up this they've come up with this ridiculous are they've come up with this ridic calling are they've come up with this ridic calling proscribed as now calling hamas proscribed as a terror organisation by the uk government others, is government and others, which is a weird kind passive a really weird kind of passive aggressive like some people say they're terrorists. like why can't just call them can't you just call them terrorists? >> but that's the thing with the bbc come up with a guide. >> it's all about guidelines. there'll guidelines there'll be so many guidelines because they're there'll be so many guidelines becausethey're organisation because they're an organisation that requires there be that large requires there to be an large book of an annoyingly large book of lists things to so you lists of things to do. so you come up with an idea that works generically, should bbc generically, that should the bbc take in saying take a voice in saying we are calling this group terrorist for any concept that you can come up with an argument for? oh, no, actually, it's better to just quote other people saying it. but get into the but then when you get into the individual times they're individual times when they're not terrorists, individual times when they're not people terrorists, individual times when they're not people say terrorists, individual times when they're not people say , terrorists, individual times when they're not people say , oh, 'rorists, individual times when they're not people say , oh, looks, the then people say, oh, look at the bias. they calling bias. why aren't they calling these because these people terrorists? because of their bland generic rule that they think would work. but it doesn't interesting doesn't work. it's interesting to the sunday

to note that the sunday telegraph is the one calling it bias, whereas danny cohen saying it's the bbc failure in the reporting. that's true . the reporting. and that's true. the failure in the reporting is there. the bbc surely would admit that probably have admit that and probably have some jumping some investigation in jumping from failure in reporting to bias is actually bias. >> well, yes, the bbc have defended themselves , saying in defended themselves, saying in amongst thousands of hours of new news broadcasts and there will always be some errors. but you question whether it's you do question whether it's bias. you're just to bias. you're just bound to you because people suspect because what people suspect about already and about the bbc already and certain biases have, we all certain biases they have, we all sort of know roughly what they think . think. >> it's our own biases like availability, and availability, bias and confirmation. bias means that right even right now we're not even thinking the errors thinking about all the errors they made in reporting things that look like have that might look like they have an we don't an anti palestine view. we don't we're not talking about those because we can't them because we can't see them right now. think there's bias . now. so we think there's bias. >> convinced. now. so we think there's bias. >> the convinced. now. so we think there's bias. >> the problem nced. now. so we think there's bias. >> the problem is ed. now. so we think there's bias. >> the problem is that they're at the top of the tree, aren't they? that's the they're the apex that's apex predator. reporter that's not great. that is actually correct. is down, it? correct. is down, doesn't it? that's he's making . that's the point he's making. >> yeah. i the bbc have

>> yeah. i think the bbc have been but been terrible on this. but anyway, is part one. anyway, that is it for part one. but coming up, a tube driver gets far too creative a love island contestant considers becoming nhs becoming an mp and the nhs wastes some money. sure how wastes some money. not sure how that's a story, but see

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and let's get into it with the mail tube driver decided to lead a pro palestine chant over the tannoy. a pro palestine chant over the tannoy . now, with the amount of tannoy. now, with the amount of strikes these drivers go on, we should have guessed they were lefty. steve that's my lefty. steve that's that's my satire on that. nice. >> the daily mail outrage as london tube driver whips up passengers to chant pro palestinian slogans from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. i mean, i'm enough of a misanthrope. i don't even like it when tube drivers try and be funny. so imagine when read it when tube drivers try and be funrthinking,lgine when read it when tube drivers try and be funrthinking, oh,e when read it when tube drivers try and be funrthinking, oh, heren read it when tube drivers try and be funrthinking, oh, heren god it when tube drivers try and be funrthinking, oh, heren go on this thinking, oh, here we go on the thing. now he got people the old thing. now he got people chanting, free, palestine. chanting, free, free palestine. and that first and i imagine after that first free people sat must free people sat there must have been i he's going been thinking. i hope he's going nelson didn't. nelson mandela. but he didn't. and it was the central line. so they've suffered enough. and the article talk about article goes on to talk about how controversial the chant is. it's just about that. it's not even just about that. there is a place where you can chant that. the chant things like that. the protest, make it to protest, he couldn't make it to because i couldn't because he said i couldn't make it the protest because he it to the protest because he couldn't yeah. couldn't get the day off. yeah. then you're work then shut up. you're at work then? not workplace. then? not in the workplace. >> i think we've got a video of it now. can we have a look at

that? me. i hope you will that? that's me. i hope you will have blessed day today. have a blessed day today. >> yourself about >> look after yourself about everybody . and and keep all everybody. and and keep all those people . those people. >> i mean, when i first saw it, it said free palestine. i thought, that's bad enough at work. and then it even uses from the river to the sea, which is known as a particularly egregious chant. yeah >> i mean, there must have been a few jewish on the train a few jewish people on the train because london, you know, because it's london, you know, there's of averages, there's by law of averages, there's by law of averages, there's it's there's a mix. i it's outrageous. of course, outrageous. and of course, there's an there's going to be an investigation . there's always investigation. there's always an investigation. there's always an inves there? n investigation. there's always an investhere? that's the rules. investigation. there's always an invwe'llre? that's the rules. investigation. there's always an invwe'llre? twhat the rules. investigation. there's always an invwe'llre? twhat the rulof it. so we'll see what comes of it. apparently, the transport police are so know are involved. so i don't know whether going to whether this guy is going to lose job. i don't know. but lose his job. i don't know. but no, i think it's entirely inappropriate. me. inappropriate. idiot to me. >> people with particular >> people with this particular view emboldened view have been emboldened to be quite radical and quite aggressive. you've got bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem. you've got bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem tacitlye got bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem tacitly to ot bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem tacitly to be bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem tacitly to be on bbc quite radical and quite aggrseem tacitly to be on their who seem tacitly to be on their side in opinion. channel side. in my opinion. channel 4 seems on their side in my seems to be on their side in my opinion. you've the usual opinion. you've got the usual woke steve woke celebrities like steve coogan, you want to coogan, whatever you want to call whether woke call them, whether they're woke or not, writing an annoying open letter on this side. letter very much on this side. so saying

so there's no cost to saying this. very safe it's this. it's like a very safe it's like lockdowns. it's like supporting lockdowns. it's become very safe thing to become just a very safe thing to say and somehow more say and somehow being more pro—israel the low pro—israel has become the low status the binary of status opinion in the binary of the that's my take. the culture war. that's my take. do ? do you agree? >> i think it's really >> no, no. i think it's a really interesting have interesting one, which i'd have to about the nuances of to think about the nuances of all that before i agree or disagree . because look. yeah disagree. because look. yeah some people could be sat on that tube feeling really attacked in that moment. for me, it that moment. but but for me, it is about you shouldn't be is it's about you shouldn't be doing in the workplace. it's doing it in the workplace. it's not platform you should be not a platform you should be abusing. that abusing. who'd have thought that actually abusing. who'd have thought that actl platform. abusing. who'd have thought that actlplatform. it's going to get say platform. it's going to get confusing there confusing because there are platforms already involved in trains. the that you've trains. but the fact that you've got microphone turn got a microphone shouldn't turn it into another place to protest. should it into another place to protaken should it into another place to protaken aback should it into another place to protaken aback by should it into another place to protaken aback by how should it into another place to protaken aback by how how1ould be taken aback by how how enthusiast the passengers were as well, which would make that seem like a very aggressive situation. i think there may have been a few people there who weren't have been a few people there who werthey might have. yeah. have been a few people there who werandv might have. yeah. have been a few people there who werand then ht have. yeah. have been a few people there who werand then stay ve. yeah. have been a few people there who werand then stay silent. h. >> and then stay silent. >> and then stay silent. >> were just someone >> but if it were just someone on tannoy, be like, on the tannoy, you'd be like, oh, is annoying. but oh, this guy is annoying. but the will know the fact that everyone will know everyone, many people went everyone, so many people went with that's scary, angry everyone, so many people went with of that's scary, angry everyone, so many people went with of it.at's scary, angry everyone, so many people went witiwell,.at's scary, angry everyone, so many people went witiwell, yeah, scary, angry everyone, so many people went witiwell, yeah, i scary, angry everyone, so many people went witiwell, yeah, i mean,. angry everyone, so many people went

witiwell, yeah, i mean, iingry everyone, so many people went witiwell, yeah, i mean, i know >> well, yeah, i mean, i know that was there were a of that it was there were a lot of people who going to the people who were going to the protest, already got protest, so he's already got a warm crowd, you know. you know what? didn't do? he didn't what? he didn't do? he didn't mind gap. mind the gap. >> point. and wendy >> yes, great point. and wendy henry, the henry, who was one of the passengers, said atmosphere passengers, said the atmosphere turned ugly quickly. passengers, said the atmosphere turimagine ugly quickly. passengers, said the atmosphere turimagine ugly on quickly. passengers, said the atmosphere turimagine ugly on it uickly. passengers, said the atmosphere turimagine ugly on it ifckly. passengers, said the atmosphere turimagine ugly on it if you so imagine being on it if you didn't agree with that sentiment or as you or if you were jewish, as you say, shocking stuff. say, pretty shocking stuff. let's what to him. say, pretty shocking stuff. let's do what to him. say, pretty shocking stuff. let's do the at to him. say, pretty shocking stuff. let's do the sunday to him. say, pretty shocking stuff. let's do the sunday expressim. let's do the sunday express next. like jihad is next. and it looks like jihad is the on the i didn't the word on the street. i didn't actually but actually write that one, but that's not bad. >> steve matt, police say no crime committed palestine crime committed at palestine protest so protest after jihad chant. so there protesters who there were some protesters who were of like, there were some protesters who were how of like, there were some protesters who were how do of like, there were some protesters who were how do you of like, there were some protesters who were how do you solve of like, there were some protesters who were how do you solve this ke, what? how do you solve this situation? they jihad. i situation? they shouted jihad. i mean, rules against mean, there are rules against shouting things about inciting violence . and it depends on your violence. and it depends on your definition of jihad , i suppose. definition ofjihad, i suppose. but seems like comes with but it seems like it comes with some if we some violence. certainly if we look some the look through some of the stories, that i mean, stories, you'll see that i mean, again, to mix in with a again, to mix it in with a previous story, it's not necessarily about saying, oh , necessarily about saying, oh, using that word should be illegal. we don't want to ban words, but a protest that's getting near to violence or inciting is already inciting violence is already against law. we don't need a new

rule comes that says you rule that comes in that says you can't this word. we should can't use this word. we should already able to you can't already be able to say you can't do that. do a protest like that. >> i mean, the metropolitan >> yes. i mean, the metropolitan police said word has police said the word jihad has a number meanings and it's number of meanings and it's like, this wasn't a like, yeah, this wasn't a religious book group. wasn't religious book group. it wasn't a was a guys a book study. it was a guys shouting on the street in shouting it on the street who in another way , said another video, by the way, said the solution is jihad by another video, by the way, said the armies lution is jihad by another video, by the way, said the armies of.ion is jihad by another video, by the way, said the armies of theis jihad by another video, by the way, said the armies of the muslim by the armies of the muslim countries. me, countries. to me, not particularly question. particularly ambiguous question. >> that trying >> i thought that was him trying to it's for to us do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it's military to do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl military to do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl thought|ilitary to do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl thought thaty to do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl thought that was do it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl thought that was ao it. to say it's not for to us do it. it'sl thought that was a kind of so i thought that was a kind of get clause. but yeah, get out clause. but yeah, i mean, if it's. >> yeah, but does that make it better? there are people better? he said there are people with egypt, pakistan, with arms in egypt, pakistan, saudi arabia and jordan and right boiling like right now they are boiling like we mean sounds we are boiling mean sounds pretty incitement to me. >> i completely agree. just pretty incitement to me. >> i cit'syletely agree. just pretty incitement to me. >> i cit'syletely technicality, mean it's like a technicality, isn't it's a way that you isn't it? it's a way that you could not could say that's not what i meant. yeah >> i mean, i suppose the >> yeah. i mean, i suppose the police so they can't police know, so they can't actually contain is that actually contain this. is that what it's about, steve? they know that they can't. they can't arrest everyone, have arrest everyone, and they have to it down. but to try and tamp it down. but actually, just make people to try and tamp it down. but actua angry just make people to try and tamp it down. but actua angry . just make people more angry. >> well, i don't know don't >> well, i don't know if i don't know if they making people

know if they are making people more angry that they'd have to then aftennards. maybe then calm down aftennards. maybe they're spreading the anger to areas to kick they're spreading the anger to arein to kick they're spreading the anger to are in the to kick they're spreading the anger to are in the same to kick they're spreading the anger to are in the same way. to kick they're spreading the anger to are in the same way. but) kick they're spreading the anger to are in the same way. but ikick they're spreading the anger to are in the same way. but i don't off in the same way. but i don't think solution here is to think the solution here is to try ban being used, try and ban a word being used, which article kind of leans which this article kind of leans towards saying, oh, the met which this article kind of leans towardsay ying, oh, the met which this article kind of leans towardsay you, oh, the met which this article kind of leans towardsay you can, the met which this article kind of leans towardsay you can shout/let which this article kind of leans toward say you can shout that, police say you can shout that, but not about the words. >> because >> we just don't say because we've of agreed we we've all kind of agreed that we don't. i think don't. yeah, but i think by banning wouldn't banning jihad, wouldn't the word jihad mean as andrew jihad banning mean as andrew doyle said, i think in book doyle said, i think in his book as well, not the word. as well, it's not the word. >> it's when it's used. it's when and use it when you take a word and use it as a weapon to incitement. so it's not about free speech. it's the word. you're using word it's not about free speech. it's thnthat'd. you're using word it's not about free speech. it's thnthat contexte using word it's not about free speech. it's thnthat contexte usi|weapon. er it's not about free speech. it's thnthat contexte usi|weapon. and in that context as a weapon. and it be a speech issue it ceases to be a speech issue and becomes an incitement issue. and already look and that is we can already look for we can already do. >> i mean, police already >> i mean, the police already should doing more. should be doing more. >> point that. >> i take your point on that. part incitement the part of incitement is the proximity of proximity to the site of violence. it's how immediate it is how whether it directly is and how whether it directly leads slightly leads to violence. so slightly complicated leads to violence. so slightly corcomplicated as making it as complicated as making it sound, let's do sound, i would argue. let's do the and a love the sunday mirror and a love island contestant is considering running labour although running as a labour mp, although apparently running as a labour mp, although applmight be overqualified. she might be overqualified. question fair enough. what did. >> very nice, georgia harrison

has has serious conversation about running as labour party mp. so i didn't know anything about this lady. i can't say i've ever seen love island, but i've ever seen love island, but i am familiar with. i know, i know the concept. know it know the concept. i know what it is. like the is. it's. it's like the headliners team all going on a lovely holiday and seeing what? no, hope not no, it's not. i hope it's not like think it's. i think like that. i think it's. i think it's even worse. anyway, she, she in a relationship she ended up in a relationship with this chap whose name is something bear like stephen bear and he's a bit of a wrong'un because he has committed , what, because he has committed, what, revenge against her. and at first, you know, there's always that feeling when you think, oh god, don't send people videos. that's not happened at all. that's not what happened at all. there was cctv in his house. what a wrong'un isn't that just horrific? some horrific? he's now serving some jail to the r. >> kelly's about that? yeah, it's no . it's just there's no. >> i have. no, i'm not. i'm not interested in his side of that argument. that's so he's argument. that's not on. so he's now serving time in prison and because she got very involved in changing the laws around this as a of what happened to

a result of what happened to her, she's now got an her, she's now kind of got an appetite for politics. and i thought, well, good for her. it's . but it turns it's not convinced. but it turns out of work has out that some of her work has contributed to the online safety bill that's where she lost bill and that's where she lost me a bit. >> exactly. yeah. she's bringing she's safety she's helping the online safety bill, be this bill, which is going to be this draconian, overzealous bill. i'm show. steve, i mean, maybe show. but steve, i mean, maybe this option. now we've got this is an option. now we've got matt with politics matt hancock with the politics to reality show path. why not the other right . the other way right. >> have it the other >> i'd rather have it the other way, yeah. matt way, actually. yeah. if matt hancock if somehow hancock would not be if somehow the result this is we don't the result of this is we don't see more hancock. yeah. see any more matt hancock. yeah. sign up for a slice that. sign me up for a slice of that. i don't having move i don't know. having celebs move into politics, this could help get people interested in politics, especially for people of certain age who don't seem of a certain age who don't seem to all. but you look at to care at all. but you look at the work that she's done. look, i you've issues with i know you've got issues with some the online safety some parts of the online safety bill, some parts of it you bill, but some parts of it you might some like, for might like, some like, for example, having laws that mean people get six months in people can get six months in pnson people can get six months in prison sharing a picture of prison for sharing a picture of you not think they you nude. do you not think they should be in trouble for that? if they were doing it to

deliberately don't deserve to see right. if they see that you're right. if they if they were doing it to embarrass they could get up embarrass you, they could get up to things are to two years. those things are right. did need right. i think we did need that law change because the laws were made before everyone had smartphones you smartphones in the old days. you want to do revenge, you've got to down snappy snaps and by to nip down snappy snaps and by a is good a lot of stamps. so it is good that things have been updated. >> you're sort like >> you see, you're sort of like an online safety bill salesman there. like there. steve, you're like well dressed man. smoothly recommending online safety recommending the online safety bill don't totally recommending the online safety bill you, don't totally recommending the online safety bill you, (she'lljtally recommending the online safety bill you, (she'll probably trust you, but she'll probably be than and be better than sultana and butler. all going butler. that's all i'm going to say. it's very arnold schwarzenegger, say. it's very arnold schwarzl of zgger, say. it's very arnold schwarzl of celebs say. it's very arnold schwarzlof celebs in politics. >> sort of celebs in politics. yeah >> yeah, right. and that >> yeah, you're right. and that wasn't a good it wasn't really a good example. it didn't well. it didn't work out well. did it really, arnie? yeah, i preferred him conan than when was a him as conan than when he was a democrat, wasn't a democrat, wasn't it? he wasn't a democrat, wasn't it? he wasn't a democrat, wasn't it? he wasn't a democrat, was a kind democrat, but he was just a kind of environment that kind of obsessed. that's obsessed. he went, woke. that's what went what i'm claiming. arnie went woke let's the woke classic. let's do the sunday telegraph the number sunday telegraph and the number of staff with 100 of retired nhs staff with 100 pensions has doubled in three years. i take back all that clapping that i didn't actually do. enough. clapping that i didn't actually do. yeah, enough. clapping that i didn't actually do. yeah, it's enough. clapping that i didn't actually do. yeah, it's atiough. clapping that i didn't actually do. yeah, it's at £2.31. clapping that i didn't actually do. yeah, it's at £23 trillion >> yeah, it's at £23 trillion now. the public sector pensions

is the single largest liability that the government has. but the telegraph's got an agenda here, so we should actually realise that we've changed topics. so it's retired nhs workers and then at this huge number then look at this huge number that includes loads more people than just the nhs workers overall, nhs paid 11 billion to its pensioners, which is a lot smaller than 2.3 trillion. so just bear that in mind. i mean the article actually does, it does a things and it's more does a few things and it's more nuanced it's more balanced does a few things and it's more nuanyou'd it's more balanced does a few things and it's more nuanyou'd it's rrpossiblynced than you'd expect. possibly in part, does say, though, that part, it does say, though, that the good quality pensions, these great pensions that people in the sector get are often the public sector get are often overlooked when pay deals are being discussed. are they sure that's the first noise we ever hear? as soon as someone's talking nurses pay deal, talking about nurses pay deal, well mention how good well, people mention how good the are and are the pensions are and they are fantastic. if retire, if you fantastic. if you retire, if you had really good and you had a really good job and you retire average pension, retire on an average pension, average salary, it's average salary, pension, it's good money. but in here they do point out there are some people who can't those who can't afford those contributions. lower down the who can't afford those conlscalenns. lower down the who can't afford those conlscale. it's lower down the who can't afford those conlscale. it's alwer down the who can't afford those conlscale. it's a 13.5% own the who can't afford those conlscale. it's a 13.5% pension pay scale. it's a 13.5% pension contribution out of your pay

packet, whereas in the private sector it's about 5. so if you can't afford to live , you are can't afford to live, you are thinking, actually i'll opt out of scheme. there are of this scheme. so there are people but it's people opting out. but it's hard for this is the for lefties because this is the nhs which we have to love. but this is pensioners which we have to rich . so i really to say are too rich. so i really don't know what say. to say are too rich. so i really dor nickow what say. to say are too rich. so i really dor nick poorhat say. to say are too rich. so i really dor nick poor leftiessay. to say are too rich. so i really dor nick poor lefties crested. >> nick poor lefties crested. any thoughts? >> it's great that it's >> i think it's great that it's in paper and being talked in the paper and being talked about don't think it about because i don't think it is very is talked about very much, certainly young certainly not by young people who say, don't need who who say, i don't need a pension i'll do it later. pension now. i'll do it later. let's talk about it. well let's let's talk about it. well i've i let's let's talk about it. well pve isay let's let's talk about it. well i've i say shut the i've got bupa so i say shut the whole thing down. >> do sunday and >> let's do the sunday times and the nhs are in trouble for a £96,000 diversity advert. was it dunng £96,000 diversity advert. was it during or during the super bowl or something? i did. something? consider what i did. they're quite clever. >> chiefs did spend >> nhs hospital chiefs did spend £96,000 diversity job advert and that that really is the whole story right there. so steve barclay's come out and criticised this he said current live adverts include jobs with salaries up to £96,000, which is above the basic full time pay for a newly promoted consultant.

i mean, that's a bit of an insult, isn't it, if you've gone to medical school and now somebody's doing this, i mean, i don't know exactly what they do for but but making for a living, but but making sure the right sure you've hired the right number of people in the right colours, seem colours, that doesn't seem like something worth something that's that's worth nearly shocked nearly £100,000. are you shocked at that? >> i mean, they'd get great >> i mean, they'd get a great pension end of that as pension at the end of that as well. if you take average average salary . what i like average salary. what i like about article of the about this article is all of the people who are disagreeing with the criticism simply saying the criticism are simply saying diversity good. but the diversity is good. but the criticism is don't need criticism is you don't need individuals to do this. they've got of managers in the got a tonne of managers in the nhs on desk. if nhs put it on their desk. if you're charge of in you're in charge of people in the nhs, should also keep the nhs, you should also keep your diversity. if that's your eye on diversity. if that's one your goals, and therefore one of your goals, and therefore that into some that 96 grand could go into some machines that save people. >> yeah . plus to me they're all >> yeah. plus to me they're all defending this defending it, saying this ensures treatment and ensures fair treatment and opportunity for everyone. we already called already had that. it was called meritocracy. is meritocracy. what this is equity, i.e. communism. that is all we've got time for in that section. coming up, why section. but coming up, why generation 2 are afraid of everything? and emily blunt apologises for a decade old joke. just a normal day in 2023.

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radio. >> welcome back to headliners. let's do the observer now with a story, ironically, about some fairly aggressive observers giving precedence . giving precedence. >> uk government keeping files on teaching assistants and librarians, internet activities . librarians, internet activities. getty so the uk's government are monitoring these people quite closely. so we did a story a few weeks ago about some people being monitored in education who are a bit higher up the food chain sort of experts, but it's now going this level of now going down to this level of like people that really don't expect to be monitored and they're happy about it. they're not happy about it. so these librarians and teaching staff have they've they're starting to request the information about them, which they're able to see. and sometimes there's like pages and pages about what they've been doing seems that

doing online and it seems that the department for education is interested who's been interested to see who's been criticised policies, which criticised. our policies, which is, yeah, outrageous isn't it? >> that was the outrageous part when we did this last time, i my theory that they trying theory was that they were trying to scandals whereby to avoid future scandals whereby someone speaks at one of their events everyone says, events and then everyone says, why have awful why did you have this awful speaker what in speaker look what they said in 1997. and they were just 1997. and so they were just going through very thoroughly. not that that excused it, though. steve? >> i don't think that's how they've it because you they've used it because you think, are they using think, okay, what are they using this data for? it's really easy to now, the fact to collect data now, the fact that got page that they've got a 60 page dossier someone actually dossier on someone actually could of could just be a whole lot of tweets, which they could automate but automate something to get. but the scary thing they have the scary thing is they have used a used it. they there was a speaken used it. they there was a speaker, an that they speaker, an event that they didn't noticed she didn't they noticed that she was critical policies. critical of the policies. so basically wouldn't fund basically said we wouldn't fund this going to this event. if you're going to have this speaker. so they are using silence and using it to silence dissent. and this kind of this is this government kind of has of thinking has the attitude of thinking they're and any they're special and that any dissenting must dissenting voice must fundamentally be wrong and silenced . and that's not it silenced. and that's not it would be great if there were actual conservatives. >> what happens is it's the

civil service running everything. the blob. >> would always bad , >> steve it would always be bad, wouldn't it? >> steve it would always be bad, wothaving? government >> having a government that thinks silence thinks that you should silence dissenting lead to dissenting voices won't lead to anything had anything being better. if we had anything being better. if we had a conservative government that was roger was following like roger scruton and about making and was all about like making things beautiful and being nationalistic, so good. >> and then they could just be as authoritarian as as. it's as authoritarian as as as. it's ridiculous . it wouldn't as authoritarian as as as. it's ridiculous. it wouldn't make sense. you're steve. sense. you're right, steve. it is thing. i was just is a bad thing. i was just messing which messing around, which i shouldn't a very shouldn't do. it's a very serious let's do mail serious story. let's do the mail and continue to bid and generation 2 continue to bid for generation ever . for weakest generation ever. >> steve says how times have >> steve it says how times have changed. generation 2 now want parents to track their location using their phones to make them feel safe from abductions or terror attacks. there's an app that it's called life 360, which sounds more like the prison sentence . it is. it lets your sentence. it is. it lets your parents know exactly where you are, what speed you're travelling at, the deceleration in case you've been involved in a crash. and they say these young people say makes them young people say it makes them feel anxious. you feel less anxious. surely you should anxious that feel less anxious. surely you sh01might anxious that feel less anxious. surely you sh01might never anxious that feel less anxious. surely you sh01might never anxioboobat feel less anxious. surely you sh01might never anxioboob if you might never see a boob if you're sneaking off, you're you're not sneaking off, you're not a life. there's a 16

not having a life. there's a 16 year emory says her biggest year old. emory says her biggest fear is being abducted after seeing stuff news. seeing some stuff on the news. i mean, firstly , we young people mean, firstly, we young people need realise is . not need to realise the news is. not a two scale example of what happens in life. the worst things are shown to you. news makes its money by upsetting you or showing the most emotionally impactful stuff. don't think life of but also life is full of that, but also generation they do kind of generation 2, they do kind of act like they've got the scariest existence in the 80s we wrote letters to jimmy savile so just bear that in mind. yes you're right. >> we're asking for it. we absolutely do. you know what it reminds me of? that advert tracking your kids. every movement app for movement there's an app for that, there is. and it's that, which there is. and it's life end, life 360. but by the end, i started wonder. it said started to wonder. it said 94% of z started to wonder. it said 94% of 2 americans say their of gen 2 americans say their life benefits from location tracking. i like, is this an tracking. i was like, is this an advert it feels advert for life360? it feels like it doesn't. >> don't know what >> i don't think they know what benefit it the benefit. i mean, isn't it the case any psychology wokeist case that any psychology wokeist worth would say the worth their salt would say the best phobias is best way to get over phobias is gradual. voluntary exposure to whatever it is instead of making sure that mummy and daddy know

if a boob. if you're touching a boob. exactly steve it just it's just bizarre . i'm from the bizarre. i'm from the countryside and we used go countryside and we used to go and in the quarry where and drink up in the quarry where there parents. was there were no parents. it was a nice empty old quarry where nice big empty old quarry where you could go and have a cider and knew. it didn't you could go and have a cider annus knew. it didn't you could go and have a cider annus harm.v. it didn't do us any harm. >> just to share, though, are you saying should slowly you saying she should slowly expose being kidnapped? no, because i don't think >> no, because i don't think she's going to get kidnapped. i think worrying think what's more worrying is growing up with this much anxiety. yeah i do. >> mean, i agree to an extent. >> i mean, i agree to an extent. i the sympathy i have is i mean, the sympathy i have is that, media that, one, the media is constantly pushing this stuff in their media the their face. social media to the world dangerous now . one world is more dangerous now. one feels perhaps in more feels overall, perhaps in a more geopolitical way a sort of geopolitical way than a sort of everyday way, said. everyday way, as you said. >> i don't think. everyday way, as you said. >> but n't think. everyday way, as you said. >> but n't th about this example >> but what about this example about who fell about the girl who fell uncomfortable a guy who uncomfortable with a guy who was hitting at a party and hitting on her at a party and then parents then she her parents came and zoomed picked up in zoomed in and picked her up in 20 minutes. do you have any sympathy for that? >> well, wasn't there. >> well, i wasn't there. right. so he was up so we don't know what he was up to. don't know. we don't know to. we don't know. we don't know what did. but you know, what the guy did. but you know, i've obviously been to a lot of parties youth. and i just

parties in my youth. and i just wonder whether don't know . i wonder whether i don't know. i must be impossible for men to comment on this stuff . comment on this stuff. >> wouldn't it be easy for you? >> wouldn't it be easy for you? >> i i like when we >> i just i feel like when we say making women uncomfortable, that's big that's now like, quite a big crime, isn't it? and you know, was he boring he was he boring or was he dangerous? a lot dangerous? because there's a lot of area in between . i don't of grey area in between. i don't know. she miss out? know. did she miss out? >> we'll never know. let's do the observer. and drones are to be from flown near be banned from being flown near prisons. weekend prisons. that's your weekend ruined cressida drones should be banned from flying near prisons in england and wales. >> you know i did used to more quite close to scrubs lane. what's it called? >> i thought it was a joke. >> i thought it was a joke. >> i thought it was a joke. >> i used to go past, i think what goes on in there. so i watched some documentaries. fascinating. anyway you won't be able close able to fly a drone very close to no fly zones will be to the new no fly zones will be introduced around prisons in england and prevent england and wales to prevent drones to deliver drones being used to deliver drugs contraband to inmates. drugs and contraband to inmates. so previously you just. well, as it sounds, you got a drone and drove the stuff in. they're now saying 400m so that's a saying 400m around. so that's a 16 swimming pools is that.

saying 400m around. so that's a 16 swimming pools is that . yeah. 16 swimming pools is that. yeah. it's a lot isn't it. you won't be able to get any photos from there. >> i don't have a pool like you requested but i'm you know steve i'm all pro freedom but this one seems relatively sensible to me. >> well, mean seems relatively sensible to me. >> biased well, mean seems relatively sensible to me. >> biased weit's mean seems relatively sensible to me. >> biased weit's not an seems relatively sensible to me. >> biased weit's not like i'm biased because it's not like i'm biased because it's not like i need to exist i think drones need to exist anyway. tends to be, i don't know, dads who should spend more time they only see time with the kid they only see on weekend rather than on the weekend rather than standing next to it a field. standing next to it in a field. but in general, you but actually in general, you probably could ban drones. i was up scotland up with the missus in scotland at a lovely, beautiful loch. it was was. it was was scenic. it was. it was autumn. crisp, but it autumn. so it was crisp, but it was most beautiful, serene was the most beautiful, serene area ever to. then area i'd ever been to. and then suddenly drone comes into suddenly this drone comes into sight. oh, do we have to. have you thought it was you making the noise? the missus, she was like, how do we get home? no, but yeah, you're right. it's such an win . why would you such an easy win. why would you be to fly contraband be allowed to fly contraband near prison? well doesn't it near a prison? well doesn't it all go in soon? >> probably won't starve. >> you probably won't starve. >> you probably won't starve. >> sorry. you know, i was doing. >> sorry. you know, i was doing. >> i was finishing on a cool little but let's. let's little joke, but let's. let's move the sunday times. move on and do the sunday times. and become

and has writing novels become basically impossible? steve according to salman rushdie, fears the novelist art. fears death of the novelist art. >> writers stay their >> if writers stay in their lane. authors should about lane. authors should write about everything, not just what they've experienced. and the article solid article makes some really solid points creativity and the points about creativity and the freedom is needed to be freedom that is needed to be truly creative and the areas that you should be allowed to write the things write in and the things you shouldn't fear. but he's a living why you might living example of why you might not want just everyone. not want to just upset everyone. isuppose. not want to just upset everyone. i suppose . but not want to just upset everyone. i suppose. but you not want to just upset everyone. i suppose . but you know, he's i suppose. but you know, he's talking a lot of sense. he's talking a lot of sense. he's talking more about cancellation, i suppose, and the idea that a writer to have lived writer needs to have lived experience write about experience to write about something and yeah, i mean, you can you should both write about anything and be corrected if your experience got it wrong. >> yeah, i think you could be forgiven for talking to salman rushdie one eye and rushdie with like one eye and thinking, to thinking, maybe i don't want to go through what he did. i mean, he's brave he's been incredibly brave and but is a difference but there is a difference between this thing between that and just this thing about write about about you can't write about anything your lived anything outside of your lived experience, renders the experience, which renders the whole yeah, 100. experience, which renders the wh(although, yeah, 100. experience, which renders the wh(although, i yeah, 100. experience, which renders the wh(although, i mean, yeah, 100. experience, which renders the wh(although, i mean, ironically, >> although, i mean, ironically, he absolutely man he he is absolutely the man to talk about this, isn't he? whether believe that or whether you believe in that or not. yeah, i mean, i just

not. yeah, i mean, ijust completely agree with him. if you you'd only be able to you can't, you'd only be able to write memoirs. you wouldn't be able novels because able to write novels because you've your you've only got your own character. you've you character. maybe you've got you and your jungian shadow, two characters, but no characters, maybe that. but no sci because no one's ever floated. >> there's an upside. >> there's an upside. >> but i think overall it's a bad thing. i went to see lionel shriver talking about sensitivity readers and sensitivity readers recently and she said that because she's kind of big dog in the game, she of a big dog in the game, she feels more confident in saying, no, you're not touching my work. and like she's got and she feels like she's got some kind of duty to do that because for people coming up through could be through the ranks, it could be the between the difference between getting published more published or not. so the more people worse people capitulate, the worse it gets. obvious can just gets. obvious she can just check in as well. >> rushdie >> tomorrow, rushdie will receive of the receive the peace prize of the german book which german book trade, which i believe is for not burning any. yes good point. >> glad we that in. >> i'm glad we got that in. let's do metro and let's quickly do the metro and emily had apologise emily blunt has had to apologise for someone fat . 11 emily blunt has had to apologise for ago, someone fat . 11 emily blunt has had to apologise for ago, cressida) fat . 11 emily blunt has had to apologise for ago, cressida ,fat . 11 emily blunt has had to apologise for ago, cressida , this 11 emily blunt has had to apologise for ago, cressida , this is no years ago, cressida, this is no joke necessary. that's the whole thing. >> emily blunt issues grovelling apology fat shaming waitress apology for fat shaming waitress can you imagine? >> it's always grovelling, isn't it? why is it always grovelling?

>> it is neverjust it? why is it always grovelling? >> it is never just apology. probably not. she'll in probably not. she'll be in trouble so yeah, she's. trouble forever. so yeah, she's. she called a woman enormous . one she called a woman enormous. one woman's is another man's woman's insult is another man's compliment. obviously she's. i just find this so silly. it's so silly. i mean, she said it, you know, own it. girl like you said, it sometimes moved on. you've never been fat. so you see a snappy little bit. yeah. i just think this is so silly. and richard curtis has been in trouble lately, hasn't for trouble lately, hasn't he, for talking, jokes. and talking, having fat jokes. and it's worse because he's a it's even worse because he's a man. just of the man. but this just stinks of the current doesn't it ? current fashion, doesn't it? >> she was on jonathan ross, and the only thing that was annoying about it, steve, was it was just about it, steve, was it was just a bad anecdote. they a bad actor anecdote. they always tell fairly bad anecdotes. she a fairly anecdotes. then she did a fairly good of a sudden good impression of a sudden american accent, was american accent, but it was actors this just actors struggle. this is just one those stories that actors one of those stories that actors are talk show are struggling on a talk show because witty as because they're not as witty as you and me. and so come up with a and a good anecdote, right? and that's was. she that's all it was. and she called enormous, but called the woman enormous, but she trying to of she was just trying to think of something moment. something to say in the moment. this is absurd, isn't it? it's ten whatever, 11 years ten years, whatever, 11 years ago, someone enormous. ten years, whatever, 11 years agoand someone enormous. ten years, whatever, 11 years agoand in someone enormous. ten years, whatever, 11 years agoand in thelmeone enormous. ten years, whatever, 11 years

agoand in the clip, 1e enormous. ten years, whatever, 11 years agoand in the clip, 1e e like|ous. >> and in the clip, it's like jonathan ross up anyway jonathan ross sets it up anyway and she just knocks it over. so it she it really feels like she shouldn't to apologise shouldn't have had to apologise for it. it's also a fat for it. it's also it's not a fat shaming. insulting. let's shaming. it's insulting. let's just we know just use the word that we know what means. said what it means. she said something was insulting something that was insulting about and to about someone and wanted to apologise for it. fair enough. if she's a if you want to. but she's also a hollywood actress. everyone must be must look be enormous to her. i must look like a row of houses to them, so it's fair play. yeah. >> and her character in >> i mean, and her character in the devil wears prada would have said, than said, where are you? worse than this, off brand this, right? slightly off brand comment there. but i comment from me there. but i mean, the fact that she's saying i'm any hurt cause i'm so sorry for any hurt cause what a ridiculous culture. let's move on. is three in what a ridiculous culture. let's mowbag.. is three in what a ridiculous culture. let's mowbag. but is three in what a ridiculous culture. let's mowbag. but coming three in what a ridiculous culture. let's mowbag. but coming thre(the the bag. but coming up in the final section, men in blue shirts and so shirts are dangerous. and so is

welcome back to headliners. let's crack on with the independent and men in blue shirts are dangerous. watch out , shirts are dangerous. watch out, steve, or i'll pop a cap in your backside . how could i say that ? backside. how could i say that?

at 5 am. on tv and you nailed it? yeah, nailed it. >> yeah. but in your accent, it sounds more like a flat cap. be popped. be popped in there, which would be quite painful. that be worse many that would be worse in many ways and would hat. and and would ruin the hat. and you're a blue so you're wearing a blue shirt, so you're wearing a blue shirt, so you back with you would just hit me back with some we've both got some other torch. we've both got flat so we could both have flat caps, so we could both have each other. should we move on? students men blue students union bans, men in blue shirts and chinos after dangerous the ban dangerous behaviour. the ban follows reckless, dangerous and incredibly irresponsible behaviour by male students on a night out. sure. long story short , they were rugby types short, they were the rugby types the went out and the rugby club went out and i remember them from university. if nightclub, if they were in the nightclub, they'd loud. they'd be they'd be loud. they'd be drinking tinkle drinking their own tinkle because apparently that's the brave they'd be brave thing to do. they'd be showing that showing their bottoms. that happened and now happened a lot. and but now instead behaviour instead of banning the behaviour , they banned the outfit bit. >> how dare they? >> how dare they? >> literally the fashion police. and also what a stupid idea like world wouldn't have world war two wouldn't have happened could have happened if only we could have got that uniform. got rid of that uniform. but that the that would have changed the behaviour aren't they? behaviour a bit aren't they? >> they're saying we're watching you, boys. we don't want >> they're saying we're watching you,of boys. we don't want >> they're saying we're watching you,of that boys. we don't want >> they're saying we're watching you,of that testosteronelon't want >> they're saying we're watching you,of that testosterone fuelled 1t any of that testosterone fuelled bad don't bad male behaviour. we don't

want ity in want any toxic masculine ity in here. do you think is? here. what do you think it is? a nightclub actually it is, it nightclub and actually it is, it is club. i mean, when is a club. bizarre. i mean, when i at university we used to i was at university we used to have pints of snakebite in black. we very black. we were very badly behaved. not that was a behaved. not that i was in a rugby wear rugby team and i didn't wear that but this i just that shirt, but this i just think this is hilarious. of course, they're behaved, course, they're badly behaved, but their the but in their defence, the cardiff union university students union says that behaviour students union says that behavinme think that if you are makes me think that if you are a rugby player and you haven't fathomed you could wear a fathomed that you could wear a different you're to different shirt, you're going to get at best. get a third at best. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> my point is rugby >> my point here is rugby students those are students and cardiff, those are three culprits above the shirts and the chinos, right? it's rugby freshers. if i just heard the phrase , if there was a sign the phrase, if there was a sign saying rugby freshers night, i would leave establishment would leave the establishment immediately anywhere else immediately and go anywhere else because you know it's going to because you know it's going to be most awful experience and be the most awful experience and god them. you god bless them. but you know, they rugby they let off steam. rugby freshers steve and rugby team on its own, freshers on their own. i'm just, its own, freshers on their own. i'm know, just, its own, freshers on their own. i'm know, i'm just, its own, freshers on their own. i'm know, i'm calling just, you know, i'm calling the management in cardiff as well. >> be there . >> don't be there. >> don't be there. >> well, wearing a blue >> well, i'm wearing a blue shirt, should know. shirt, so i should know. >> thing is, of your of my >> thing is, a man of your of my maturity, you i don't

maturity, you know, i don't i'm more football guy. more of a football guy. >> you're saying. you >> i get what you're saying. you know what, steve? one more point. the victim is point. the victim here is straight again, straight white men once again, because going to because who else is going to wear blue shirt and chinos ? wear a blue shirt and chinos? >> true. could >> that's true. i could accidentally this accidentally be banned from this university , which university nightclub, which would for the would be better for the nightclub. in nightclub. but the union said in a the clothing a statement the current clothing restrictions temporary restrictions are temporary and not at a specific group. not aimed at a specific group. then what do they are just listed? >> the group? yeah. >> the group? yeah. >> yeah. i'm now supporting the rugby freshers. i've changed my position completely. >> i want to see steve in there with them saying two things can be true once. with them saying two things can be yeah, once. with them saying two things can be yeah, yeah.. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> then talking about >> and then talking about science. let's the science. all right, let's do the sunday and stealth sunday times and stealth splitting is the new trend. crestacare to explain, meryl streep joins the stealth splitters with secret separation. >> so it turns out that she's been sort of divorced , but not been sort of divorced, but not really for six years, which is up to her, isn't it? and apparently this is quite common now. people are separating quietly because they don't want a fuss or a bill. it's very expensive . i think people like expensive. i think people like weddings more than they like marriages, don't they? that

seems to be quite a i don't know. there's so this is happening a lot. know. there's so this is happening a lot . and, uh , are we happening a lot. and, uh, are we surprised ? surprised? >> i mean, i'm not surprised because i actually worked with will we smith on a movie and i think i can now say he said some things to me that made me think, i'm not quite sure that's a conventional marriage anymore. i'm not quite sure that's a convit's onal marriage anymore. i'm not quite sure that's a convit's confirmed age anymore. i'm not quite sure that's a convit's confirmed nowanymore. and it's confirmed now that they've been quietly they've they've been quietly separated 2016. i knew separated since 2016. i knew that, steve, because i rubbed shoulders with the of shoulders with the elite of showbiz . showbiz. >> but do you know he's telling that right now in america? that story right now in america? >> yeah, we're probably going to sue but sue us actually, now, but i mean, yeah, cressida says, mean, yeah, as cressida says, it's the money in divorce. there's also a law change, which apparently changes in apparently means it changes in british law means family british law means that family courts are open to the public, which so it's going to which we know. so it's going to be you get be more public if you get divorce. also the other divorce. and also the other thing jackman said that thing is hugh jackman said that they want to they just want they want to focus individual focus on their individual growth. there that growth. you're 55. is there that much ? yeah. what do you think? >> apparently there is . >> apparently there is. >> apparently there is. >> it's i can understand why if you're level famous, you you're that level of famous, you just your business just want to keep your business

to the question to yourself. the question would be business is it of be like, what business is it of ours? if meryl streep is staying with not? it's with her husband or not? it's not. newspapers not. but the newspapers would love and some journalists love it. and some journalists would throw you the bus to would throw you under the bus to expose all this stuff left, right centre. the hugh right and centre. the hugh jackman meryl stuff jackman and the meryl stuff i think slightly different think feels slightly different from going that from whatever's going on in that mess with will smith and jada . mess with will smith and jada. that feel like same story. >> paul will yeah . oh well. >> paul will yeah. oh well. stealth splits . it's a weird i'm stealth splits. it's a weird i'm not quite sure that term is going to catch on. it's weird, isn't it? i've said it. >> it sounds like the kind of thing that happens if you come at me with a flat cap. >> yes, absolutely. good call back. that one seems back. all right. that one seems to petered out. let's do to have petered out. so let's do the mail. and listening to radio four could be four could actually be dangerous. oh, no. what am i going to hear unfunny going to go now to hear unfunny comedians tell me racist? comedians tell me i'm racist? steve, steve. know steve, i'm sorry, steve. i know you're channels. know you're on these channels. i know the great simon evans it the great simon evans is on it sometimes. i i sometimes. but i just i felt i had say also twitter, had to say that also on twitter, there'll unfunny there'll be some unfunny comedians you a racist, comedians telling you a racist, don't always be don't worry, you'll always be able good, unfunny able to find good, unfunny comedians you you're racist. >> but does listening radio >> but does listening to radio four drivers likely to

four make drivers more likely to crash question mark. crash their car? question mark. we already know if there's a question headline. the question mark in a headline. the answer especially in the answer is no, especially in the daily drivers who tune daily mail. drivers who tune into speech based rather into speech based radio rather than more likely than music are more likely to crash, a study. he crash, according to a study. he says, being on says, whilst being broadcast on dab. , that is dab. so oh, sorry, that is totally safe. >> i should say that you reckon that's we haven't been to that's we haven't been linked to any say with any crashes. i say with confidence. yeah. yeah. >> but they've apparently they see that volunteers drive too fast, they drift out of their lane and they forgot to indicate so they a but it also so they drive a bmw, but it also apparently well darting to turn off the archers must be the biggest problem. but in this research says these research it also says these things happen. if you listen to music radio. i happen to host a music radio. i happen to host a music show in the afternoon on a radio station. so the death toll that i must have created by now massive been doing it for years. massive. just they massive. but just to say they were doing it was the were doing this, it was the experts the national experts at the national institute technology india institute of technology in india . were . yeah. so if they were listening four, the listening to radio four, the size of their aerial must the size of their aerial must be the biggest problem. >> great point. also, steve, biggest problem. >> taket point. also, steve, biggest problem. >> taket point. was also, steve, biggest problem. >> taket point. was if so, steve, biggest problem. >> taket point. was if you'reve, my take on this was if you're listening four, you listening to radio four, you at least so that the real

least 75. so isn't that the real issue driving ? am issue with your driving? am i right or am i right? >> am i noticed i hate to be sexist, but the sample is all male. and aren't always told male. and aren't we always told that can't do two things at that men can't do two things at once? a great point. an once? that's a great point. an interesting i find to interesting i find driving to music because if you music is worse because if you like obnoxious electronic dance music like i do , encourages you music like i do, encourages you to go a bit quicker, doesn't it? >> could you drive a boat while listening to the radio? >> yes. at four miles an hour. >> yes. at four miles an hour. >> it was slightly impair. >> but it was slightly impair. >> but it was slightly impair. >> the problem that listening >> the problem is that listening to conversation is cognitively demanding, points demanding, especially my points on headliners extremely cognitively . i've just caused so cognitively. i've just caused so many. i'm like used causing many. i'm like used to causing just pile ups. >> do think you're >> yeah, i do think you're cognitively demanding. i've often said, thank you. >> to going as a >> i'm to going take that as a great compliment, though it great compliment, even though it totally the totally wasn't. let's do the metro a key question metro then with a key question for pregnant for our times. should pregnant bridesmaids be replaced? cressida with other people wedding guest cruelly insults pregnant bridesmaid and insists she should be replaced. >> so this is somebody that wants the wedding photos to look

great and doesn't appreciate that somebody's pregnant. i mean isn't is this a weddings are full of politics, particularly when it comes to choosing the bridal party. i'm afraid you've lost me there, don't you? just look at your favourite friends and say you, you and you isn't. >> you're not thinking about the gram, are you? you've got to get the instagram gram. >> oh, thought kilos. >> oh, i thought you mean kilos. oh do mean the gram, the oh no. you do mean the gram, the instagram i instagram. yeah, absolutely. i knew who was in a knew somebody who was in a wedding was to wedding and who was made to shave for day. shave his beard off for the day. that's face. are you that's your face. are you kidding? that's to you. kidding? that's up to you. that's your private area, too. >> has here actually been >> has anyone here actually been married you? been to married to you? been to weddings. married ? weddings. you've been married? >> been. i've been to >> i've been. i've been to weddings well. yeah, i've weddings as well. yeah, i've been. currently. weddings as well. yeah, i've been. curryour. weddings as well. yeah, i've been. curryou approve of this? >> would you approve of this? >> would you approve of this? >> whole article. every >> no, the whole article. every single my brain just single sentence. my brain just goes, oh, you've terrible goes, oh, you've got terrible friends. next friends. you're in the next line. i go, oh, you've definitely terrible friends. definitely got terrible friends. and by the end of it, i hadn't changed opinion. changed my opinion. spoiler alert. so yeah, not that it's an advice section, but if it was get these people get new friends. these people are terrible. >> it's one person who was the are terrible. >> ilbrotherserson who was the are terrible. >> ilbrothers girlfriend was the are terrible. >> ilbrothers girlfriend weone.> are terrible. >> ipeoplers girlfriend weone.> are terrible. >> ipeople whose 'iend weone.> are terrible. >> ipeople whose wedding ne.> are terrible. >> ipeople whose wedding newas. the people whose wedding it was.

it's are you it's like, what? why are you listening to this? there's a certain percentage of psychopaths population certain percentage of psyc someone population certain percentage of psyc someone says, pulation certain percentage of psycsomeone says, get tion certain percentage of psycsomeone says, get rid| certain percentage of psycsomeone says, get rid of and someone who says, get rid of the pregnant bridesmaid, and someone who says, get rid of the p|to nant bridesmaid, and someone who says, get rid of the p|to be|t bridesmaid, and someone who says, get rid of the p|to be theidesmaid, and someone who says, get rid of the p|to be the dark1aid, and someone who says, get rid of the p|to be the dark triad test them to be the dark triad test for psychopathy. machiavellianism narcissism . machiavellianism and narcissism. i've narcissism. i've only got the narcissism. let's do the last one, let's quickly do the last one, because steve these because i know steve likes these ones. sun. and it ones. let's do the sun. and it sounds the earth been sounds like the earth has been neglecting its core strength. steve good. steve that's pretty good. >> earth's core >> yeah. the earth's core is leaking capital letters as leaking in capital letters as mystery element, not that much of a mystery detected 62 million year old lava scientists don't know what will happen next. probably not a lot, but scientists have been left baffled by the fact there's baffled by the fact that there's some up some helium three cropping up instead of helium four, which is normal . and it doesn't hang normal. and it doesn't hang around for long because it's, you know, the balloons. so as soon as it's released into the atmosphere, of the atmosphere, it's off out of the planet and they don't know where it's from. a of it's coming from. so a bit of a question, very question, but yeah, i had very little on this question. >> what about you? >> what about you? >> well, looking fonnard >> well, i was looking fonnard to hearing explain to hearing steve explain it so i could go with an opinion could go off with an opinion about and helium about helium three and helium four. , up till now, four. i mean, up till now, obviously, thought obviously, i've thought that helium was the superior of

helium three was the superior of the this leaves the helium. oh, no. this leaves me even less sure, be honest . me even less sure, to be honest. it's lighter because it's only got what it sounds like. >> one neutron. well, that's emily blunt would love it. she thinks helium four is enormous . thinks helium four is enormous. she does? how small she is. does it mean we're going to have it spill out? >> because makes me panic >> because this makes me panic and we going have and think, are we going to have lava ? lava? >> know, we just we've >> but, you know, we just we've got to go. >> know you so much more >> i know you had so much more on sorry. we've got to on this. so sorry. we've got to go to the papers. thank you very much, let's a much, though. so let's have a quick look at sunday's front pages. sunday has pages. so the mail on sunday has israel. will strike head of israel. we will strike head of the snake, sunday telegraph the snake, the sunday telegraph us ban iran terror us tells sunak ban iran terror guards. the observer has us holding back israel from strike against hezbollah . the sunday against hezbollah. the sunday times. hamas chief lives in british council house the sunday mirror. we will never forget him. a normal football about sir bobby charlton, of course. and finally , the daily star, our finally, the daily star, our hero. tears for world cup legend sir bobby charlton. and those are your front pages. that's all we thanks we have time for. thanks to steve chris wet. we have time for. thanks to stevwe're chris wet. we have time for. thanks to stevwe're back chris wet.

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well . welcome to the show. well. welcome to the show. >> i'm about to give you the menu for the programme, but let menu for the programme, but let me tell you that tonight we will be remembering the sporting and british icon that is bobby charlton , a hero for england, charlton, a hero for england, a hero for manchester united, an irreplaceable figure who we have lost at the age of 86. so tonight's show dedicated to a true great britain, bobby charlton . it's 9:00 on charlton. it's 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. happy saturday. one and all in my big opinion with some

towns missing their post for up towns missing their post for up to two weeks. royal mail has become royal mail . britain become royal mail. britain deserves a better postal service. postman pat would be spinning in his grave. my mark meets guest is the heroic leader of the canadian trucker convoy who stood up to vaccine tyranny dunng who stood up to vaccine tyranny during the pandemic. he tells us about his extraordinary fight for freedom in the big story. why are excess deaths in this country through the roof? we'll be debating that with andrew bridgen, mp , who finally managed bridgen, mp, who finally managed to get it debate in parliament yesterday. plus we hear the views of renowned nhs gp doctor david lloyd . you won't find this david lloyd. you won't find this debate happening anywhere else on british tv and you won't want to miss it and it might take a ten legendary four weddings and a funeral writer richard curtis has apologised for his politically incorrect movies and the fat jokes that were in them . the fat jokes that were in them. remember the good old days when films were allowed to be funny ? films were allowed to be funny? plus, we will react to the very