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agreed between ministers, be agreed between ministers, police and retailers today to tackle the problem. we'll bring you the very latest . you the very latest. >> and the tributes continue for the england and manchester united footballing legend sir bobby charlton, who sadly died on saturday aged 86 . on saturday aged 86. >> yes, it's tom and me , emily >> yes, it's tom and me, emily carver today, this morning on britain's newsroom. please do get in touch throughout the show. we're on gbviews@gbnews.com. what do you make of what you saw on the streets of london this weekend ? streets of london this weekend? >> absolutely >> yeah, no, absolutely terrifying stuff. and what a contrast as well . many people contrast as well. many people were the contrast were drawing the contrast between the pro— israel demonstrations between the pro—israel demonstrations and the pro—palestinian demonstrations , pro—palestinian demonstrations, both in size, but also in temperament. get your views coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. but before all that , let's get but before all that, let's get the latest news update with ray addison .
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addison. >> thank you both. good morning . >> thank you both. good morning. it's 931. our top stories this houn it's 931. our top stories this hour. israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza . of exploiting civilians in gaza. the israel defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight. several blasts at various compounds overnight . they say compounds overnight. they say rocket launchers have been placed next to civilian sites , placed next to civilian sites, including schools. a mosque and a united nations building . a united nations building. meanwhile, in lebanon, israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti—tank missiles and rockets . a second missiles and rockets. a second convoy carrying humanitarian aid entered gaza on sunday night. 14 trucks went through the rafah crossing. despite the latest delivery , the united nations delivery, the united nations says the current volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average , which the home average, which the home secretary will challenge. the met police commissioner over the force's decision to not arrest pro—palestine protesters calling for jihad against israel. this
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forjihad against israel. this after video emerged of a pro—palestinian protester chanting the term at demonstrations over the weekend. suella braverman will hold talks with sir mark rowley later after officers said no offences were identified . and scotland's first identified. and scotland's first minister is set to visit an angus community. devastated by the storm babet floods . humza the storm babet floods. humza yousaf will meet people affected by the extreme weather in brecon after the river south esk burst its banks on friday. two people have died in scotland , including have died in scotland, including wendy taylor, who was swept away in the water of lee in glen esk. you can get more on all of those stories on our website, gb news wgrz.com. now let's get back to tom and . emily tom and. emily >> a very good morning to you and welcome to britain's newsroom here on gb news. now let's get straight stuck in to our big top story this morning.
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the home secretary suella braverman, will question the metropolitan police commissioner, sir mark rowley , commissioner, sir mark rowley, about the force's response to incidents during a pro—palestinian protest in london this weekend . london this weekend. >> yes, she'll challenge the officer's decision to take no action when they heard a jihad chant, insisting that there can be no place for incitement to hatred or violence on uk streets. >> well , joining us in the >> well, joining us in the studio now is the political commentator, piers pottinger . commentator, piers pottinger. and this is a pretty stark contrast , and this is a pretty stark contrast, i suppose. on the one hand, a home secretary who is saying what we heard is not acceptable . and on the other acceptable. and on the other hand, the metropolia police that has almost been making excuses on social media, some might say for some of what we heard . for some of what we heard. >> yes, i think the metropol police are in a bit of a quandary . they also at the quandary. they also at the weekend stopped a march of 30,000 people supporting israel in golders green , which was has
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in golders green, which was has understandably, really upset the jewish community. they can't be seen to be taking sides in this dreadful conflict. and for suella braverman is quite right to speak to sir mark rowley, who himself produced a report back in 19 sorry, in 2021. he actually produced it about deaung actually produced it about dealing with with extremism in demonstrations . and the problem demonstrations. and the problem is the law is i think it's hard to asking the police constantly to asking the police constantly to interrupt at the finer points of law , particularly when it of law, particularly when it comes to verbal outbursts, is very , very tricky. the police very, very tricky. the police are actually trained to catch burglars, although they might have forgotten that. and getting them in is they are in a difficult position . i accept difficult position. i accept that. but i think suella braverman is right because there is a bit of a powder keg , not is a bit of a powder keg, not justin is a bit of a powder keg, not just in gaza but all over the
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world at the moment . we've been world at the moment. we've been seeing some terrible incidents in america, some terrible incidents in france and 1 or 2 incidents in france and 1 or 2 in this country already . and it in this country already. and it is a very frightened time for the world. >> this the guardian are reporting that the government was warned and this was in a report, rowley produced that current legislation contains gaps amounting to, in quotes, a gaping chasm allowing extremists to operate with impunity. is this a problem with the law rather than the police? >> well, as i think i intimated, there , i think the law isn't as there, i think the law isn't as clear as it could be. and we're also asking the police to play semantics and define the use of language . and i mean, that's language. and i mean, that's a very tricky thing to do, particularly in the heat of the moment, although i would have thought shouting jihad was pretty provocative in the current climate. >> i mean, tom, it was quite remarkable that the met police issued a statement on twitter, on social media, saying, oh, jihad has has many meanings.
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>> it can be interpreted in different ways that we've got specialist officers looking into this. they they were interpreting different flags. some there was a flag that could that a lot like that looked rather a lot like the of isis. the met the flag of isis. but the met police replied, saying, no, this is a separate subsect of radical islamist that wasn't islamist ideology that wasn't specifically isis or something else. it could have been interpreted in a different way. i wonder when it comes to looking at the specifics of whether or not this flag is one flag or another, whether jihad might be interpreted as a call for actual war or spiritual war or whatever it might be. does that matter here when ultimately what people will interpret from these symbols is very different? >> yes. i mean , you're right, >> yes. i mean, you're right, tom. of course, it's what people will interpret . and the fact will interpret. and the fact that we are discussing this semantic is, again , itjust semantic is, again, itjust plays into the hands of hamas . plays into the hands of hamas. and hamas have got the world exactly where they want, not
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just israel boxed in in a terrible situation after the appalling atrocity 80s inflicted on them by the terrorists. but also they've got the west not knowing which way to turn, who to support it, and looking very weak and feeble . meanwhile, the weak and feeble. meanwhile, the ukraine war continues. putin and in china are rubbing their hands with glee because the west , i'm with glee because the west, i'm afraid to say, has never looked weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment. weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment . yeah, weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment. yeah, and it's terrifying . and anything we can terrifying. and anything we can do to calm the situation down here, i think suella braverman is doing the right thing, but again, i go back to the point is that, you know, we shouldn't be arguing about the interpretation of words ads. we should be clear . these people were clearly advocating the end of israel in that demonstration . and clearly that demonstration. and clearly and that is wrong and that is illegal and shouldn't be allowed. i believe one of the men who was pictured waving one
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of these islamist flags , i'm not of these islamist flags, i'm not sure if it was hizb ut—tahrir , sure if it was hizb ut—tahrir, that islamist group or another. >> he has been arrested. people obviously , the police obviously obviously, the police obviously found out who he was. but tom sent me an article this morning andits sent me an article this morning and it's called 12 things more arrested , bill, than calling for arrested, bill, than calling for jihad . and they include things jihad. and they include things like silent praying near an abortion clinic or misgendering someone in public calling someone in public calling someone a lesbian , burning a someone a lesbian, burning a quran and it goes on just highlighting perhaps how the police have not got this one right. >> well, i mean, at the weekend we heard that the labour party are considering introducing legislation should they win the next election to give people two years in prison if they misgender someone as you've just mentioned there. i mean , what mentioned there. i mean, what kind of world do we live in? let's get down to reality. people are being slaughtered in a terrible war that is expanding by the minute. that is the
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number one priority for the whole world at the moment. to sort out and pretending that the terrorist activities of hamas didn't happen , as some people didn't happen, as some people still do , is extraordinarily still do, is extraordinarily wrong and should be called out at every opportunity. i think sometimes protests like these can be very difficult for people who might be of a sort of free speech inclination to sort of square with their own ideology because clearly in the united states of america, you can say horrendous things on a on a protest. >> you can pick it the funeral of a soldier, and that's your first amendment right. we don't have those same rights mirrored in the united kingdom. i suppose the way that about it is the way that i think about it is looking at that list that emily read out there in the critic magazine today of these of these equivalent, perhaps offensive as people have been arrested for malicious communications of making poor taste jokes in whatsapp groups. and if that's the level of what the police are doing on the one hand, you'd
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think that you'd almost expect there to a sort of balance, a there to be a sort of balance, a concurrency with protests like this . perhaps there hasn't been this. perhaps there hasn't been a level playing field in how some of this law is applied. >> i think that's absolutely right. and i think for mark, sir mark rowley and metropolitan police commissioner, he's got a very difficult task to apply by the law across the board. and when you're in a situation as emotive as this one we're in at the moment, it's even harder for them . and, you know, as i say, them. and, you know, as i say, them. and, you know, as i say, the police are meant to be out there catching genuine criminals instead of which they are having to debate whether the jihad was actually in inciting violence or not. and i mean, this is a kind of judgement they shouldn't be asked to make. >> well, this is , you know, the >> well, this is, you know, the concern that's deeper than this is why are there people on our streets doing this? what's gone wrong in our society to allow this type of extremism? because
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that's what it is more difficult when it comes to chants like from the river to the sea . i from the river to the sea. i mean, you've got a clearly mean, if you've got a clearly anti—semitic placard or anti—semitic like placard or you're chanting for jihad or you've got something calling on muslim armies to rise, that should be, i think, a little bit more clear cut in terms of the interpretation chants like from the river to the sea, when you have hundreds chanting that if not thousands, very difficult with that free speech, as tom was saying. >> and yet that is clearly a chant that is saying there is no space for the state of israel in that part of the middle east from from from the jordan to the mediterranean. it should only be palestine. should not be palestine. there should not be a jewish state. >> people should reminded of >> people should be reminded of the or charter the hamas covenant or charter from 1988, which is still in existence, and it's still their mantra. and if you read that, it is one prime objective of and thatis is one prime objective of and that is the annihilation of israel , the complete destruction israel, the complete destruction of israel and the emotive language. i mean, netanyahu not
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very popular in his own country. he himself a very controversial and he has had a very bad time, becoming back as prime minister and now , i mean, he's using the and now, i mean, he's using the most incredibly emotive language to about wiping out the lebanon and use showing such strong language that i mean, this this this is the most frightening worldwide situation, certainly in my lifetime. >> and certainly, as you alluded to earlier, the links between hamas , hezbollah and iran , the hamas, hezbollah and iran, the links between iran and russia in ukraine, and all tying back to china, too. we're seeing it's often spoken about as if we're heading towards a multipolar world, but perhaps perhaps we're heading to a bipolar world of the free world. and the autocracies and putin is thinking is talking about getting the global south to support hamas as well . support hamas as well. >> and which is, again , very >> and which is, again, very worrying. that's mostly the african countries and asian
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countries . and they're using countries. and they're using this opportunity. they see the west as very weak at the moment. we've got a very frail and very weak appearing us president who referred to hamas as the other team . absolutely. team. absolutely. >> that was remarkable . >> that was remarkable. >> that was remarkable. >> extraordinary and you also have a weak rishi sunak who looks as though he won't be in power in a year's time. the west is in its most vulnerable position. >> and yet you have in the us presidency right now an administration that wants to pass a $100 billion of aid to israel and to ukraine to push back against this stuff. perhaps the weaker point would be if the democrats lose the white house and no longer is billions in us aid funding, the efforts of the israelis and the ukrainians , israelis and the ukrainians, well, that's a real danger. >> i mean, the thought of trump
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coming back as president is terrifying, quite frankly . and terrifying, quite frankly. and this kind of worldwide situation, because you have no idea what he might do. but and of course, supporters of trump would say that's his advantage, that he's such a maverick and that he's such a maverick and that might scare people away. >> would detractors >> some would detractors would say terrible say that that's a terrible position to be in, but also to say that this wouldn't be happening if trump was in power. >> don't that >> but don't forget that the democrats less and all the democrats also less and all the sanctions on iran and freed up money for them from iraq, which enabled them to fund hamas . we enabled them to fund hamas. we are also , of course, beholden to are also, of course, beholden to qatar because qatar is such a big investor in this country. and we do so much business with not only qatar, but most of the arab states . and so why a lot of arab states. and so why a lot of people would wonder why the leader of a terrorist organisation is operating in plain sight in qatar, not even hidden. i mean, he's got a pubuc hidden. i mean, he's got a public office. he appears on television and we are regard
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qatar as an ally. yet they are harbouring the leader of the most terrifying organisation in the world at the moment . the world at the moment. >> so just just finally on this, before we move to on matters a little closer to home, was it a good thing for rishi sunak to go across to the middle east to meet the prime minister of israel, the king of jordan , an israel, the king of jordan, an the of the palestinian the leader of the palestinian authority, the president of egypt? i mean , he seems to have egypt? i mean, he seems to have had of a successful egypt? i mean, he seems to have had of a success ful trip had more of a success ful trip in terms meetings than in terms of meetings than joe biden well, i think biden did. yes well, i think partly because , as rishi sunak partly because, as rishi sunak is obviously younger and fitter and is able to do more meetings as biden has a very restricted schedule, no , normally he schedule, no, normally he doesn't put in the hours that many previous presidents have done because he is so frail and he does say the wrong things and goes off script and people have noidea goes off script and people have no idea what he's saying. >> in fact, neither does he. i mean, it's very worrying to have the leader of the western world,
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the leader of the western world, the commander in chief, being so frail and so quite frankly , frail and so quite frankly, really lacking in the strength to grasp this properly. and, of course, in the past, we would have had the great henry kissinger flying around sorting this out . but kissinger flying around sorting this out. but people kissinger flying around sorting this out . but people keep this out. but people keep saying, we should sort this out by you can't sort out by diplomacy. you can't sort out hamas by diplomacy. they don't want to be sorted out. they are they're in a position they they've planned for clearly for years. they've got to fantastic position from their point of view. and they're going to get the most out of it unless. yes. and i'm afraid i fear that this the escalation in violence which we're seeing already today . and we're seeing already today. and there's a press conference from there's a press conference from the israeli government today showing the horrors of hamas to bnng showing the horrors of hamas to bring the western journalists up to speed as to what actually happened, to remind them of the horrors, because they seem to have forgotten about that . but, have forgotten about that. but, i mean, when you're getting to down showing videos of the horrors of war to journalists , i
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horrors of war to journalists, i mean, this is really grim stuff. and a lot of people are too young to remember the previous war i was born just after the second world war, but those people who are still alive , who people who are still alive, who remember the horrors of war, will be shuddering at the moment. isn't it eerie that after the after the second world war, the bbc and other television cameras were sent in to concentrate on camps and they filmed the horrors there because people wouldn't believe it? >> absolutely. and are we seeing the same thing in israel today? >> i think there is a bit of that. and i mean , i think the that. and i mean, i think the other problem with social media we have now is that so much fake news flies around and it's deliberate. hamas are not just masters of terrorist acts. they're masters of media manipulation as they've shown by very quickly jumping on the attack on the hospital that they blamed immediately on the israelis when it wasn't them. i
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think everyone now accepts it was a misfired hamas rocket. but they saw this as an opportunity and they managed to turn world opinion against the israelis in a matter of seconds. >> incredibly quickly. >> incredibly quickly. >> it's very, very frightening . >> it's very, very frightening. >> it's very, very frightening. >> so should we. it seems relatively minor, but shoplifting is a massive issue in this country and it seems to be getting worse by the day. the government is set to announce a zero tolerance plan to sort it all out . good. all out. good. >> well, i mean, that's marvellous. >> and let's just hope the police actually arrest some of the shoplifters. i mean, the government can make these wonderful pronounced moments, but in reality, the execute in are catching these criminals and they are criminals because they're stealing and catching these criminals doesn't seem to happen. these criminals doesn't seem to happen . i mean, no burglaries. i happen. i mean, no burglaries. i mean, in my street in london, we've had my own car has been broken into three times in the last fortnight . two cars have
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last fortnight. two cars have been stolen in in the last week. and the police just say you ring them up and they say, right, thank you very much . nothing thank you very much. nothing happens. so the problem is we don't have the resources to catch these shoplifters and they know it well . know it well. >> piers pottinger on that bnght >> piers pottinger on that bright and cheery note, we thank you for reviewing those two. big, big stories there this morning. but of course, something else happened over the weekend, and that's that england world cup winner and manchester united legend sir bobby charlton sadly died aged 86 on saturday after a long battle with dementia. >> yes, tributes have poured in for the icon, including david beckham, who said sir bobby was the reason i had the opportunity to play for manchester united. i will be forever grateful to a man i was named after, someone i looked up to and was a hero to many the world. many around the world. >> and prince william and kate , >> and prince william and kate, said sir bobby charlton, first division champ and european champion , world champion champion, world champion gentleman , an legend, a true
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gentleman, an legend, a true great who will be remembered forever here. thank you, sir. bobby rishi sunak said, very sad to hear of the death of sir bobby charlton. >> he has a place in history as one of the game's greatest players and was hugely loved. rest in peace, sir bobby well, we're joined in the studio by our gb news sports presenter paul coyte, who can tell us more about the legend of sir bobby charlton . charlton. >> and no one has a bad word to say about this man, correct? >> nobody has a bad word to say about him. it's usually after someone passes away and that's when hear every thing is when you'll hear every thing is how was, how great how fantastic he was, how great he i'll completely he was. but i'll be completely honest you , he really was. honest with you, he really was. i mean, is one of the great i mean, this is one of the great players. it'd be interesting to hear know, is it someone hear you know, is it someone that you'd always aware of? that you'd always been aware of? it's more of name, sir it's just more of a name, sir bobby charlton. knew was it's just more of a name, sir bifootballerton. knew was it's just more of a name, sir bifootballer and knew was it's just more of a name, sir bifootballer and not knew was it's just more of a name, sir bifootballer and not much was it's just more of a name, sir bifootballer and not much else as a footballer and not much else about him. is that fair to say? >> you've definitely heard of the you've seen the famous the name. you've seen the famous picture world cup in picture with the world cup in 66. beyond that, not 66. but beyond that, no, not really. i've been really. i mean, i've been learning a lot more this weekend
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about, for example, the german plane which knew very plane crash, which i knew very little about. >> february bobby was >> february 1958. sir bobby was 20 year old player and the team was the great manchester united team and they called it the busby babes, which is named after sir matt busby. anyway they they were playing in europe. playing in europe. they were playing in belgrade, and they stopped over in three aborted in munich and had three aborted attempts try and get off the attempts to try and get off the ground. and the third one, unfortunately, the plane came unfortunately, he the plane came down. members of the busby down. seven members of the busby babes were killed. sir bobby, although young bobby, 20 year old, was out of the old, was pulled out of the wreckage by the goalkeeper at the time, obviously had to be the time, obviously had to be the goalkeeper and he pulled him out and saved him. spent a week in hospital without even knowing about so many of his team—mates and friends that had passed away. think, away. and you would think, i mean, if anything's going to test a human for how they're to going continue for the rest of their carried on and their life, he carried on and played then played within played and then he played within about had to about three weeks. they had to get back together. and get the team back together. and then it was almost a rebirth of manchester united within 5 or 6,
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seven years there was a new team . um, he goes on and wins the 66 world cup with england. and then in united won in 1968, manchester united won the european cup. so what he went remarkable . and went through is remarkable. and not only that, but then to become not only one of the greatest players, if not the greatest players, if not the greatest english player we've ever seen, but also a great ambassador for game as well. ambassador for the game as well. >> incredible man. how does he compare to the footballers of today? have a different today? did they have a different style different tactics , style? well, different tactics, or is it very much the same game that we see now? >> you know what, there's so many people you'll get football experts, emily, they'll say, experts, emily, and they'll say, you them. but at you can't compare them. but at the end of the day, it's 11 players against 11 players. and it very interesting. it would be very interesting. the you look at the difference is if you look at the now, the pitches the pitches now, the pitches that play they're that they play on, they're carpets that play on these that they play on, they're carpe'whereas play on these that they play on, they're carpe'whereas back ay on these that they play on, they're carpe'whereas back in on these that they play on, they're carpe'whereas back in the:hese that they play on, they're carpe'whereas back in the day days. whereas back in the day when bobby was playing, by the time you to november, time you get to november, december, are mud heaps. december, these are mud heaps. i mean, seriously, i mean, it's just like a ploughed field. so to do anything as to be able to do anything as they really remarkable.
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they did is really remarkable. bill had this incredible bill but he had this incredible shot, wonderful foot and he shot, wonderful left foot and he was also we spoke to mark lawrenson just a little about an hour or so ago. and mark was saying how two footed he was, which incredible for which is incredible for a footballer should be. but there's a lot of footballs that aren't. and he was a right footed player, but he knew that his left foot was weaker practise practise and practise and practise and practise. ended it practise. and that ended up it was left foot that was even was the left foot that was even stronger . so how they compare stronger. so how do they compare this able serve this player being able to serve on both sides? but can you imagine, though, being a tennis player you're right handed, imagine, though, being a tennis plajthen you're right handed, imagine, though, being a tennis plajthen you'rfupght handed, imagine, though, being a tennis plajthen you'r(up the1anded, imagine, though, being a tennis plajthen you'r(up the racketi, but then picking up the racket with and then being with your left and then being able to do that way and able to do it that way and probably more? >> pitch is sort of >> well, the pitch is sort of created all rest of it. created and all the rest of it. >> you know what i'm i'm there's a lovely picture of football back in the day, a complete mess. bobby mess. so difficult. but bobby charleton one the charleton truly one of the greats certainly be greats and certainly will be missed everyone. paul coyte, missed by everyone. paul coyte, thank much for talking us thank you so much for talking us through that next will be through that very next will be with white live from israel. stay us. >> stay with us. >> stay with us. >> morning. welcome to your >> good morning. welcome to your latest news weather forecast. >> good morning. welcome to your late craig vs weather forecast. >> good morning. welcome to your late craig snell. ther forecast. >> good morning. welcome to your latecraig snell. welliorecast. >> good morning. welcome to your latecraig snell. well looking i'm craig snell. well looking ahead a bit of
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ahead to today, it's a bit of a chilly start out there, but for most of us it should be largely dry and bright. watch out for a few icy patches. thing, few icy patches. first thing, however, parts of however, across parts of scotland, north of scotland, the far north of england, elsewhere, maybe the scotland, the far north of eng|mist elsewhere, maybe the scotland, the far north of eng|mist or;ewhere, maybe the scotland, the far north of eng|mist or fog1ere, maybe the scotland, the far north of eng|mist or fog patch, aybe the scotland, the far north of eng|mist or fog patch, bute the scotland, the far north of eng|mist or fog patch, but forie odd mist or fog patch, but for most largely dry and most it's a largely dry and bnght most it's a largely dry and bright watching rain bright start, watching some rain just moving into just potentially moving into parts of northern ireland, maybe the of wales, southwest the far west of wales, southwest england too. but the england too. but come the afternoon, best, the sunshine really will be up across parts of scotland. and for most of us, temperatures around where they should the time of year should be for the time of year into the evening. we'll continue to the risk of some rain to see the risk of some rain across parts of northern ireland. southwest and parts of england. and then on, england. and then later on, we start next area of start to see this next area of rain just moving into parts of eastern clearest eastern england. so the clearest of will probably be of the skies will probably be reserved parts of western reserved for parts of western scotland. so here could just see a frost as we start a touch of frost as we start tuesday morning. but i think elsewhere , milder start to the elsewhere, milder start to the day compared to this morning. but overall, tuesday is going to be cloudier picture right be a much cloudier picture right across board risk of some across the board risk of some heavier and persistent rain for
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a time across eastern england . a time across eastern england. but come the afternoon clearing up quite nicely across southwest england, south wales and actually a good chunk of scotland not doing too badly, largely dry here with some sunny spells as temperatures on tuesday very similar. once again, highs reaching 10 to 12 in the north, potentially up to 15, 16 in the south. >> profound developments in israel this morning will be straight to mark white live from tel aviv next up, this is britain's newsroom on gb news, the people's channel. >> stay
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us good morning. it's 10 am. on monday, the 23rd of october. this is britain's newsroom. with me, emily carver and tom hannood. so coming up on the show, a jihad on the streets of london. >> the home secretary will challenge the metropolitan police boss today after his officers took no action when supporters of an extremist islamist group chanted a jihad dunng islamist group chanted a jihad during protest in london on saturday. >> palestinians inside gaza are preparing themselves for a possible ground invasion, but aid is reaching them, with a second convoy arriving yesterday . our security editor mark white will be on the ground for us. >> shoplifting crackdown , a new >> shoplifting crackdown, a new zero tolerance plan will be agreed between ministers, police and retailers today to try and tackle this problem. will it
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work ? work? >> and sex education will become compulsory for all post—primary schools in northern ireland. pupils will be taught about abortion and the prevention of early pregnancy . is this early pregnancy. is this suitable for children? we'll have that debate . have that debate. >> and of course, this show is nothing without your input, too. we want to hear what you have to say about all of the big issues we're talking about today. gb views news at gbnews.com is the address to email it is indeed. >> but first, let's get the news headunes >> but first, let's get the news headlines with . ray headlines with. ray >> thank you both . good morning. >> thank you both. good morning. 10:01. our top stories. israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza. the israel defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight. they say rocket launchers have
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been placed next to civilian sites, including schools , a sites, including schools, a mosque and a united nations building. meanwhile, in lebanon , building. meanwhile, in lebanon, israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti—tank missiles and rockets . well, as missiles and rockets. well, as we've been hearing , a second we've been hearing, a second convoy carrying humanity aid entered gaza on sunday night, 14 trucks went through the rafah crossing. despite the latest delivery , the united nations delivery, the united nations says the current volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average. since hamas's attack on october 7th. food water, medicine and fuel have been in short supply. health authorities in gaza say the death toll there now stands at at least 4600. well british charities are urging the government to ensure safe passage for refugees fleeing from israel and palestine. organisations including the refugee council , including the refugee council, say rishi sunak should provide immediate urgency measures, including medical evacuation and
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a refugee protection visa . the a refugee protection visa. the groups also want the government to prioritise cases of israelis and palestinians already in the uk asylum system. transport secretary mark harper told gb news the government is trying to help those in need . help those in need. >> the foreign secretary and the prime minister in the region talking to leaders not just in israel but also in the surrounding countries. so in egypt, in saudi arabia and in qatar working very hard both deaung qatar working very hard both dealing with the hostages. the british citizens that have been taken hostage , these other taken hostage, these other citizens that have been taken hostage, but also talking to israel , hostage, but also talking to israel, supporting hostage, but also talking to israel , supporting them hostage, but also talking to israel, supporting them in hostage, but also talking to israel , supporting them in their israel, supporting them in their right to defend their country from hamas attack, but also urging humanitarian support for the innocent palestine people who are just as much a victims of hamas as those living in israel . israel. >> the home secretary will challenge the met police
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commissioner over the force decision not to arrest protesters . others calling for protesters. others calling for jihad against israel. this after video emerged of a pro—palestinian protester chanting the term at demonstrations over the weekend. suella braverman will hold talks with sir mark rowley later after officers said no offences were identified. some ministers have condemned the police for their handung condemned the police for their handling of rallies in london and other cities, including birmingham, cardiff and belfast, over the weekend , scotland's over the weekend, scotland's first minister is visiting an angus community that's been devastated by the storm babet floods . humza yousaf is meeting floods. humza yousaf is meeting people affected by the extreme weather in brecon after the river south esk burst its banks on friday. two people have died in scotland , including wendy in scotland, including wendy taylor, who was swept away in glen esk . the environment agency glen esk. the environment agency says 1250 properties have been flooded . well a man has been flooded. well a man has been arrested in connection with a
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fire that ripped through a car park terminal two at luton airport earlier on this month. bedfordshire police saying that a man in his 30s had been detained on suspicion of criminal damage several days after the blaze broke out on october ten. he has since been released on police bail, pending further enquiries . the further enquiries. the bedfordshire fire and rescue service has around 1005 says around 1500 cars were inside the car park and it's unlikely any will be salvageable . well, will be salvageable. well, appeal court judges will hear from the parents of a critically ill baby today after they lost a high court fight to maintain her life support treatment. indie gregory , who was born in gregory, who was born in february, has the genetic condition mitochondrial disease, which saps energy . specialists which saps energy. specialists at queen's medical centre in nottingham say she is dying and a lawyer for the hospital's governing trust said that treatment is painful and futile . treatment is painful and futile. however, indi's parents say their daughter has proved everyone wrong and needs more
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you have been saying at home throughout the first half an hour of this programme. first, i want to turn to a message from rishi, has written in to say rishi, who has written in to say it the metropolitan it wasn't just the metropolitan police, manchester police took no action either . this was after no action either. this was after similar pro—palestinian protests in both london and manchester and other cities around the uk. cardiff, leeds , leeds, probably cardiff, leeds, leeds, probably bristol too. >> let us know if you if you saw protests in your town or city. they did seem to be across the uk. i think glasgow as well, maybe edinburgh who knows? across uk cities it's quite interesting. people have had quite a lot to say about what we were talking about with regards to donald they have and to donald trump. they have and whether were president whether if he were president we'd having this much we'd be having this much conflict be conflict or whether he'd be better at dealing with it. mixed thoughts someone who left thoughts here. someone who left their name out and i can't determine it from your email address, but you say trump was and will be the will be again the only hope for the western world. you're too biased against
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him. >> well, alan has written in with a contrary view saying if sunakis with a contrary view saying if sunak is weak and trump is weak, the thought of starmer should send shudders up people's back . send shudders up people's back. so that's not a lot of confidence in any politician there. but, you know, a lot of people are deeply concerned by what they've seen in terms of the chanting of jihad and anti the chanting ofjihad and anti semitic placards or those that can be interpreted in that way . can be interpreted in that way. >> lesley says anti—jewish hate crimes are being committed on our street and our police seem to nothing . screaming jihad to do nothing. screaming jihad is hate speech . and she goes on is hate speech. and she goes on to say, i'm ashamed of this country. we're in big trouble. a lot of people feeling that way. deeply, deeply concerned that this is going on on our streets . this is going on on our streets. and the police seem to be, you know, relatively relaxed . know, relatively relaxed. >> and it is difficult because i'm not normally someone who thinks that sort of hate speech is necessarily something that should be an arrestable offence. i'm not sure. but ultimately there's got to be some sort of
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balance here and if you're doing it for some sorts of speech, but not sorts speech that not other sorts of speech that could be interpreted as could both be interpreted as hateful, that's hateful, then that's a that's a two tier justice system, isn't it? >> it is indeed. right. shall we move on? >> let's move on. because. >> let's move on. because. >> the second convoy >> yes, the second convoy carrying aid carrying humanitarian aid entered gaza on sunday night. >> yes. 14 trucks through >> yes. 14 trucks went through the crossing despite the the rafah crossing despite the second delivery, the united nafions second delivery, the united nations says that the volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average . now, since daily average. now, since hamas's attack on the 7th of october, food, water, medicine and fuel have been in short supply in the strip . supply in the strip. >> yes, health authorities in gaza say the death toll there now stands at at least 4600. >> well, our homeland security editor, mark white, is live in tel aviv for us. and mark, just first of all, on this number of almost 5000 dead in gaza , that's almost 5000 dead in gaza, that's coming from health authorities in gaza. that that's a that's a hamas run area. can we trust
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these numbers . these numbers. >> well , you can these numbers. >> well, you can or you cannot, depending on who you trust. so hamas is clearly a terrorist organisation in is in control of the health minister de propaganda is part and parcel of what they do as well. so i think what they do as well. so i think what we do without passing judgement on whether the figures are right or wrong, is just in form the audience that these are the figures that are being put out by by the hamas controlled health ministry. they're saying that close to 300 people were killed over the weekend. the total number who have been killed since the conflict began after that attack in israel on the 7th of october with israeli strikes on gaza is now close to 5000. and as far as the aerial bombardment is going, the strikes they have grown in
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intensity . in fact, it has been intensity. in fact, it has been the most intense night of airstrikes last night with dozens of targets struck by the israeli defence forces. they say that the targets included tunnels. hamas command and control structures and other terrorist infrastructure . and terrorist infrastructure. and they've also said that the idf , they've also said that the idf, that they're attempts to try and avoid civilian casualties are being severely hampered by by the very cynical use by hamas of sensitive civilian sites to put their launchers next to. so they have put out some photographs, evidence that they say that shows these launchers, one next to a kindergarten , one other to a kindergarten, one other launchers next to schools, one next to a mosque , and another next to a mosque, and another even next to a united nations compound . so this is what the compound. so this is what the
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idf say they're up against. they are more than aware of the calls to try to minimise these the casualties to the civilian population. but when everyone is intermixed and when you have hamas cynically using civil euanne hamas cynically using civil elianne sites to put their launching infrastructure, then it makes it that much more difficult. >> mark any update on the ground assault? we're expecting from israel into gaza ? it's been israel into gaza? it's been quite a number of days now . yes quite a number of days now. yes >> i mean, all of the troops are now massed. they have been for quite a few days around gaza, in southern israel. the troops are there and the equipment is there ready to go in. they are waiting for the orders. in the meantime , for the orders. in the meantime, they're using that time to train for their tactics in entering gaza, in particular for gaza city, for what will be a very
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very messy, very difficult fight, effectively door to door fighting, that they will be involved in when they get in to gaza proper. but that decision on where to go or when to go will, of course, come from the politicians, from the war cabinet here in israel. they will decide when the troops should go in there are a number of factors, of course, that they're taking into consideration in chief. among them is the fact that more than 200 hostel charges are being held by hamas in and around gaza . so going in, putting potentially is going to be very risky for those hostages. also so there is consideration being given to the potential for more negotiations to release some of these hostages . and also, of these hostages. and also, of course, as much as the united states , the uk and other
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states, the uk and other countries are very publicly supporting israel and defending israel's right to defend itself and go after hamas through the back channels. they're urging caution in their urging. israel to give as much time as possible for the hostage negotiations and for the hostage negotiations and for civilians to get out of northern gaza before moving in. >> now, while all our eyes are focussed on gaza, the border with gaza, the build up of troops there, we were seeing some pictures of tanks on that border just some moments ago some pictures of tanks on that borderjust some moments ago . so border just some moments ago. so we also need to think about the northern border of israel, the evacuations that have occurred there and the very well funded well armed terror group hezbollah, which has received so much equipment and funding from iran . to what extent should we iran. to what extent should we be worried about greater activity and perhaps invasions in the north of israel ?
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in the north of israel? >> yeah, i think there's no doubt, tom, you've hit the crux of the issue , which is the real of the issue, which is the real concern here about a potential widening of this war and for other parties to get involved. and that's why we had benjamin netanyahu , oahu in northern netanyahu, oahu in northern israel just yesterday visiting troops, tens of thousands of israeli military on that northern border and warning hezbollah not to get involved and to open up another front in this war. benjamin netanyahu said that if hezbollah did that, then it would be making the biggest mistake of its life , biggest mistake of its life, that there would be an enormous reciprocal strike from israel if hezbollah entered this war. but of course, they don't really need to enter the war more properly in any significant numbers, just doing what they're
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doing , which numbers, just doing what they're doing, which is trying to launch anti tank missiles and other shells and munitions over into northern israel , means that northern israel, means that israel has no choice but to respond and to send in significant forces up there in the expectation that something more significant might happen . more significant might happen. and that ties them up there when those forces could be better deployed , of course, around gaza deployed, of course, around gaza . it is a very difficult situation , one that israel finds situation, one that israel finds itself in, and it hopes that hezbollah won't enter the war in any meaningful way. but it says it's prepared that if it does, it's prepared that if it does, it will retaliate in a big way. well thank you very much indeed for your time and bringing us the latest. >> mark white. there are security editor live from tel aviv. we'll be hearing more from him later on in the show. >> absolutely. and some stark warnings about warnings there about the potential conflict potential for this conflict to spill into other countries spill over into other countries in the middle east. but it does
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feel like this conflict is already spilling over to some extent a little bit closer to home with chants of jihad on the streets of london. now the home secretary, suella braverman , secretary, suella braverman, will question the metropolitan police commissioner, sir mark rowley, about the force's response to incidents during the pro—palestinian protests this weekend . weekend. >> yes, she'll challenge the officer's decision to take no action on a jihad chant, insisting that they can. she will insist that there can be no place for incitement to hatred or violence on uk streets. she's been quite strong on this in the past of weeks or so since past couple of weeks or so since hamas launched their attack on israel. now we've got ben habib in the studio , the deputy leader in the studio, the deputy leader of reform, to speak to us about this. we just heard from mark white of what's white in terms of what's happening israel and gaza. happening in israel and gaza. also the threat of hezbollah in the north, but here closer to home as tom said. well let me just get your reaction of what we saw on the streets of london and elsewhere. >> well, suella braverman made
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an excellent speech in washington , which you, i'm sure washington, which you, i'm sure will recall a few weeks ago. and then she followed it up with a similar speech the similar speech at the conservative party conference, citing the existential threat that she described, that western liberal democracies and including the united kingdom, faced from multiculturalism, not working. and we've seen that on the streets of london that is the streets of london that is the physical manifest station of the physical manifest station of the speech that the excellent speech that suella braverman made, very brave speech from a cabinet minister. she got a lot of criticism for it, but she called it and she called it right. and we see our metropolitan police cowed into for inactivity for fear of upsetting this minority, whatever this minority is, because it's a it's not straightfonnard to pinpoint who these people are, that are promoting this this sort of venom on our streets. but the metropolitan police. absolutely had the right and indeed the obugafion had the right and indeed the obligation to make arrests . but
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obligation to make arrests. but there is something called the racial and religious hatred act 2006, which prohibits incitement against minority against races , against minority against races, not minority against any kind of racial hatred or religious hatred and an incitement to jihad against obviously , israel jihad against obviously, israel or the jewish faith is a fundamental breach of that act. it is a criminal offence. so you don't. >> i'm sure you've seen the statement from the met police with regards and i disagree with jihad and they said , oh, it has, jihad and they said, oh, it has, you know , it does have you know, it does have alternative meanings. it doesn't necessarily mean a call to violence . violence. >> no jihad. i mean, to be clear, he's absolutely right. of course, jihad means the meritorious struggle in the pursuit of good. that's what it fundamentally means. and it appues fundamentally means. and it applies as much to an inner struggle for the pursuit of good as it does for the outward. >> i suppose it's an open interpretation. an how many of the people on the streets of london shouting it outwardly are talking about an inner struggle
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within themselves? so i think that stretches credulity . that stretches credulity. >> talking about muslim armies. >> talking about muslim armies. >> i mean, you've got to you've got to look at what the man on the would think the clapham omnibus would think of this. and it's clearly an incitement and incitement to violence. yes. and the have repeat, the met police have repeat, sadly do their job sadly failed to do their job when they're faced with these kinds of difficult issues on the streets, they crack down, streets, they will crack down, do dramatically on anti—lockdown protests , but they crack down protests, but they crack down dramatically on anyone who objected to blm attacking winston churchill's statue or those rights back in 2020. >> and yet , whilst they crack >> and yet, whilst they crack down on women's rights protesters for protesting during lockdown after the murder of sarah everard, they didn't crack down on black lives matter protests who protested during lockdown. it's a similar sort of to tier justice system that we're seeing here. >> well, our police are politicised and they shouldn't be. they need to be depoliticised. they need to enforce the law. and they need to to colour blind to
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to be blind to colour blind to race, blind to ethnic origin , race, blind to ethnic origin, blind religious preferences. blind to religious preferences. and and forth. but and so on and so forth. but they're not. and this is where our culture and our society is being . it's being, by the way, being. it's being, by the way, by a series of regulations and laws put in place by parliament starting with tony blair in 2006, and then a series of other laws which have come to protect affect these sort of malicious malign parts of our society. attacks so, for example, the equalities act is meant to protect you against any discrimination, whether it be on age, your sex colour, race and so on. but the equalities act has come to be interpreted and implement bid against the interests . and i would say interests. and i would say arguably the most prejudiced against individual in this country . he is a white, middle country. he is a white, middle aged man who happens to be heterosexual . he gets no heterosexual. he gets no protection under the equalities act. he is prejudiced against. and what we've seen on the streets , some minorities might streets, some minorities might disagree that that's the most prejudiced against individual in
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the country. if you look at if you look at the regulations that govern business, for example, a listed your you're listed company, your you're required promote diversity, required to promote diversity, equality and inclusion. you've required to have a diverse board of directors. you're required to have women on the board, which is which all kind of fine. is which is all kind of fine. but what that is the but what that is, is the embedding. sorry it's not fine. the emotional bedrock on which it's based is fine. but the practical implications of what they're doing is to embed discrimination and it is discrimination and it is discrimination against the majority. this is what i would call the, you know, the tyrannical rule of the minority . tyrannical rule of the minority. thatis tyrannical rule of the minority. that is what the effect of these regulated actions and laws have become. i wonder if the police were concerned about appearing to target muslims and target religious or religious, but it's not minority. >> and that's why they find it easier to police. i don't know, football hooligans, but emily, it's not their job to make that
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decision. it's not of course it's not. >> i think it's the same reason that police won't go after that some police won't go after a mobile phone that's stolen because worth because it's probably not worth their. they will more their. i think they will more likely knock on a door of someone who's done a nasty tweet because an easier because frankly, it's an easier job to do they're less job to do and they're less likely get pushback. perhaps likely to get pushback. perhaps that's ben habib, we that's part of it. ben habib, we have time, have run out of time, but i really do thank you for your input here. and what an interesting discussion has been. >> still to come, should >> yes. so still to come, should abortion and transgenderism be taught secondary school taught to secondary school children ireland? children in northern ireland? this. sorry . no, not all. this. oh, sorry. no, not at all. >> gb news britain's news channel
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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> good morning . it's 1026 news. >> good morning . it's1026 in >> good morning. it's1026 in the morning. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with me, emily carver and tom hannood well, it will soon be compulsory for all post—primary schools in northern ireland to teach pupils about access to abortion and other contraception, presumably that means secondary schools . yeah. means secondary schools. yeah. the new legislation will also include teaching of same sex marriage and also transgender issues. marriage and also transgender issues . some teachers in issues. some teachers in northern ireland are refusing to do it apparently. well we're joined now by the dup spokesman for education, diana dodds. >> and, diana, thank you for making the time for us this morning. i suppose firstly to open this conversation. you're a proud unionist member , member of proud unionist member, member of the dup . you're an elected
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the dup. you're an elected representative who believes in the union between our four nafionsin the union between our four nations in the united kingdom . nations in the united kingdom. isn't all this legislation doing bringing northern ireland into line with wales, england and scotland , which already have scotland, which already have sexual relationship education in secondary schools ? shouldn't secondary schools? shouldn't unionists be championing this measure ? measure? >> well , can i say, first of >> well, can i say, first of all, that this legislation was led by the secretary of state for northern ireland without any reference to people in northern ireland, without any reference to political parties in northern ireland. he simply led secondary legislation when this went to the secondary legislation scrutiny committee in parliament, they criticised the lack of consultation in on on this particular issue and the legislation actually deals with with the legal now requirement to teach age appropriate
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comprehend live and scientifically accurate information on early pregnancy and access to abortion . now this and access to abortion. now this is the first time that this is a legal requirement of the rac curriculum. when the curriculum changed for the secretary of state's constituent agents in england, there were about three different types of consultation . different types of consultation. so a pre consultation on the law and consultation on the guidance, etcetera, etcetera . guidance, etcetera, etcetera. but no such courtesy was offered to people in northern ireland. and i think that that is shameful from the secretary of state and has led to a little bit of fear among parents and among teachers as to why the secretary of state would behave in this particular manner. >> sir brian, what are the concerns you mentioned concerns among parents. is it also teachers as well who are concerned about what they may be asked to teach? what are the issues here? is it around the
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transgenderism ? is it around the transgenderism? is it around the access to abortion teaching? what are the sticking points . what are the sticking points. >> well, let's be absolutely clear. the legislation doesn't deal with anything to do with gender issues . the legislation gender issues. the legislation solely deals with early pregnancy and access to abortion, but the issue for many parents and when we look at the consultation subsequent we published not before the legislation but after the legislation but after the legislation , when we look at the legislation, when we look at the consultation that was published by our department here in northern ireland, i think parents are a little bit afraid that their rights might be disrespected , that many schools , disrespected, that many schools, for example, and for example, in the secretary of state's constituency , the law in england constituency, the law in england states that schools should have the right to take into account the right to take into account the particular cultural and religious background of parents and pupils in that particular school. there is no such right
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afforded in northern ireland. we are told that we will have to teach issues around abortion and early pregnancy. scientifically and accurately and age appropriately . now there are all appropriately. now there are all kinds of ways that you could determine how that would be taught , determine how that would be taught, and we would very, very much be fearful that to teach it, to teach about abortion in a moral vacuum is in fact a prohibition , a pro—abortion, a prohibition, a pro—abortion, a genden prohibition, a pro—abortion, a gender. and what we'd really like to see is that in in for our party and for many of our supporters and for many people across all constituencies in northern ireland, both lives actually matter. the lives of the unborn baby, as well as the lives of the mother. and we want to see that respected in the guidance that comes out from the department of education . so far, department of education. so far, we've been told that we have no right even to see the material
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thatis right even to see the material that is going to be taught. we're just simply asked in the consultation to agree that it will be produced by the curriculum body. >> i suppose one of the issues here with direct rule for want of a better term, with the secretary of state for northern ireland doing these things is of course that there isn't a functioning northern ireland executive. the assembly isn't working way that was working in the way that it was designed to, things stand, designed to, as things stand, wouldn't it be better if the dup got back involved and formed that executive so that you could make these decisions ? well of make these decisions? well of course, you've heard many, many times and many spokespeople for the party on saying that we are a devolutionist party. >> we believe that devolution is the right way fonnard for northern ireland. but it that the secretary of state, the prime minister and sadly actually the european union will have it in their hands as to when devolution is restored. and just last week at our party conference, my party leader, jeffrey donaldson, sir jeffrey
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donaldson in indicated that really what needs to happen is that that customs border between great britain and northern ireland needs to go. we need to see northern ireland citizens treated exactly the same as citizens in the rest of the united kingdom. so the secretary of state can restore devolution when they start to address these issues that are really, really important to businesses to consumers and to constituents in northern ireland. but let's be clear the secretary of state can meddle in something like this. but he won't step in to resolve pubuc but he won't step in to resolve public pay disputes. he won't step in to resolve the teacher pay step in to resolve the teacher pay dispute. health workers pay disputes. so he meddles in something like this without any consultation with people in northern ireland, but won't tackle the real issues. >> well, diane , thank you very >> well, diane, thank you very much indeed for your time. >> well, diane, thank you very much indeed for your time . diane much indeed for your time. diane dodds there, spokesperson for education at the dup . a education at the dup. a
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interesting , very interesting stuff. >> and i do think i do think that there is a bit of a tension there between, number one, we're a unionist party. everything should be the same across the uk. and number two, we want different sexual relationship education. but education. i don't know, but there's controversies there's been huge controversies in wales, haven't we? >> certainly parents not being able to see quite content aukus >> certainly parents not being abl(educationjite content aukus >> certainly parents not being abl(education that :ontent aukus >> certainly parents not being abl(education that isitent aukus >> certainly parents not being abl(education that is ultimatelys sex education that is ultimately something everyone can agree on. >> parents should be able to see what their children are being taught. think that would be taught. you think that would be a level of. a basic level of. >> i think that should be a must. i mean, it's absolutely no way. be allowed way. it shouldn't be allowed anyway. come, anyway. still to come, housing terrorists . hamas fugitive who terrorists. hamas fugitive who helped run the group's terrorist operations in west bank helped run the group's terrorist operainwns in west bank helped run the group's terrorist operain a; in west bank helped run the group's terrorist operain a councilwest bank helped run the group's terrorist operain a council propertylk helped run the group's terrorist operain a council property in lives in a council property in north london. >> and zero tolerance, a new plan will be agreed between ministers, police retailers plan will be agreed between micrack s, police retailers plan will be agreed between micrack down ce retailers plan will be agreed between micrack down on retailers plan will be agreed between micrack down on shoplifterss plan will be agreed between micrack down on shoplifters and to crack down on shoplifters and killer robots . killer robots. >> a leading tech boss says artificial intelligence has a 1 in 4 chance of wiping out humanity. golly >> well, that and much, much more after your morning news with ray addison .
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with ray addison. >> good morning. it's 1034. with ray addison. >> good morning. it's1034. our top stories. israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza for the israel defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight that they say rocket launchers have been placed next to civilian sites, including schools , a mosque and including schools, a mosque and a united nations building. meanwhile, in lebanon , israeli meanwhile, in lebanon, israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti—tank missiles and rockets while a second convoy carrying humanitarian aid entered gaza on sunday night. 14 trucks went through the rafah crossing. despite the latest delivery, the un says the current volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average. the home secretary will challenge the met police commissioner over the force's decision not to arrest protesters, calling for jihad against israel. it's after video emerged of a pro—palestinian
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from three on gb news choose. >> good morning. it is 1040 yours. britain's newsroom on gb news with me emily carver and tom hannood . tom hannood. >> well, a family who have been housed in a travel lodge for 14 months say they have no hope. >> yes, they were made homeless after their home burnt down and they've been relocated several times since. the families say they've been given absolutely no indication when they might indication of when they might finally be able to find a home. our reporter lisa hartle has the story. >> pyotr, his two sons and wife, have been housed in various travel lodges for 14 months after their property burnt down. but after being told they would have to move to yet another hotel in another borough, he said he'd camp outside enfield council until someone met with him. i'm feeling bad for my family. >> i feeling very bad for all my family . sometimes i'm feeling family. sometimes i'm feeling i'm like i'm not a human. i'm
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like a homeless person . i'm like a homeless person. i'm like, lower category, like lower category person. and my family also in april, i first filmed with the family in enfield. >> piotr is a wheelchair user and so needs adapted accommodation . accommodation. >> i want to be like a escape from escape from the hotel, from the hotel room. i feel like i'm arrested there . and i'm trying arrested there. and i'm trying to escape and save my family . to escape and save my family. >> matt burns from a housing charity says the number of people living in temporary accommodation is shocking. >> we have around 3400 families living in temporary accommodation of some sort at enfield families and about 5000 children. so registered as homeless, living in temporary accommodation. and it's anything but temporary. so 80% of those
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families have been in that accommodation for longer than two years. so it's not temporary, but they might be asked to leave at any moment . so asked to leave at any moment. so it's very unsettling to be in that kind of situation and particularly in the hotel accommodation that people are finding themselves in now . but finding themselves in now. but we just simply don't have enough staff, social rent, affordable homes for people to move into . homes for people to move into. >> in a statement, enfield council said we've explored a number of avenues to find the zbikowski family suitable accommodation. but larger properties that are adaptable are exceptionally difficult to find, and there are other families in similar situations. this is a national housing challenge problem . we continue challenge problem. we continue to work with mr rabchevsky and our housing providers and partners to help find suitable accommodation as soon as possible. the council arranged a more suitable hotel for piotr and his family until mid—november. and his family until mid—november . amber so for now, mid—november. amber so for now, piotr left enfield council with his tent, hoping a permanent place can be found soon. lisa hartle gb news enfield and that
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was lisa there bringing us that report . report. >> this is a huge problem . i've >> this is a huge problem. i've seen so many people are being housed in hotel accommodation, not just those obviously crossing the channel, but people who are resident here, citizens , who are resident here, citizens, those being in hotels. patrick christie's did a report from eaung christie's did a report from ealing council not too long ago where people are being kept in shipping container hours. you've got women who have who have flee, who have fled, fled domestic violence and single mothers and people , you know, in mothers and people, you know, in dire need, fled . there we go. dire need, fled. there we go. terrible terrible, serious live television . television. >> it did take five seconds for me to think. fleed fled, fought, flew . okay. flew. okay. >> sorry. we're not complete idiots. >> no, no, it is. it is monday morning. let's let's turn to our panel. morning. let's let's turn to our panel . we have let's get their panel. we have let's get their thoughts . thoughts. >> we're talking a complete idiot . oh, >> we're talking a complete idiot. oh, thank you very much for that introduction. >> well, we have the former editor of the daily star, dawn neesom, and the former advisor
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to the labour party, scarlett mccgwire us. suppose, mccgwire with us. and i suppose, scarlett, with you scarlett, let's start with you watching package, of watching that package, of course, gb news a report course, gb news did a report with family several with the same family several months ago, but now, of course, it's even more months and nothing's changed. >> and how can it i mean, i mean they , they said on there, the they, they said on there, the problem is it's not just one family. it's thousands of families, thousands of families as they're made homeless for one reason. i mean, this was this was a lots of people are made homeless because they're in rented accommodation and the rented accommodation and the rent doubles or the person wants them out , you know, rent doubles or the person wants them out, you know, because rent doubles or the person wants them out , you know, because they them out, you know, because they want to sell or whatever. and there to go. and there is nowhere to go. and i have to say, for the last 30 years, i'm not just blaming the tories here. maybe i mean, the we have not built enough housing and the real problem when mrs. thatcher said you can buy your own council home, the councils were not allowed to spend that money building more houses and that's what we need massive
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masses of housing and you know in the last i mean rishi sunak put out a target he now says he's not going to meet that target. i mean, there are there are i mean it is terrible. families are the worst. but i mean, young, single people. it's appalling . i mean, how what the appalling. i mean, how what the statistics of people living with their parents because they can't move out. i mean, dawn, families living in travel lodges, premier inns , as we budget hotels for inns, as we budget hotels for months and months and months on end . end. >> i mean i mean is completely right. i mean, it's not just one right. i mean, it's notjust one particular the one government we just simply have not built enough houses. but the problem we've in this country is we've got in this country is everything gets down in everything gets bogged down in red and, know, debates red tape and, you know, debates and meetings, endless meetings whilst people are suffering, you know , that weird link. but that know, that weird link. but that magnificent dome they've just built in las vegas where the gigs are, i mean, the las vegas sphere, sphere, that's the word i'm looking for that one. the dome thing anyway. but that was
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bill and planned and put up straight away. right. we've had the same thing planned for east london where i'm from, since 2018. there's still talking about it's the same company that proposed it at the same time . proposed it at the same time. >> exactly. in the time that we've spent to go through consultation and planning process . and we even know process. and we don't even know if going to be built or not if it's going to be built or not in east london. to fair, las in east london. to be fair, las vegas, have already done it. >> a of people >> to be fair, a lot of people in east london don't want it. i mean, they they don't want mean, they and they don't want it it's to keep it because it's going to keep them at night. it's i them awake at night. it's i mean, know, the complaints mean, you know, the complaints are massive. so mean, i think are massive. so i mean, i think there's it's oh, yeah, i'd really like a dome that i could see the that kept me awake. >> isn't this indicative of though whether you want it or not currently it's stuck in limbo and we don't have an answer. you're right. you're right. there's investment that might not. and we might happen, might not. and we need need a system that will need we need a system that will say, can build that or say, yes, you can build that or no, can build that. and we no, you can build that. and we get answers rather than get quick answers rather than stuck in consultation and planning and reviews
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i >> -- >> tom, both political parties, as you well know, have promised to sort out the housing crisis, just being a bit sketchy on the detail how they're going to detail of how they're going to do it or how they're going to. >> and think the >> well, and i think the elephant in the room is that we have net migration in the hundreds of thousands every yean hundreds of thousands every year, enormous year, which is putting enormous pressure our housing stock. pressure on our housing stock. but you not able to shut but you will not be able to shut tom . you wouldn't want to tom up. you wouldn't want to when it comes to planning reform. this really is your hobby horse. >> the hobby of >> i to the hobby horse of anyone of 45. in anyone under the age of 45. in this country at the moment. it's extraordinary. scarlett you were saying are having live saying people are having to live with actually, with their parents. actually, it's quite interesting. the leader the conservative party leader of the conservative party in canada has been making this point. you wouldn't think that the conservative party would be the conservative party would be the talking about young the party talking about young people bringing members of the opposite sex home. but this is but this is precisely what pierre poilievre is saying in canada, and he's leading in the polls now saying, you know, we've get kids out of we've got to get kids out of their parents basements, not least because we've got to sort
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of families . of get families. >> yeah, no, no. and i, i mean, i'm somebody who's whose children both came back. i mean , children both came back. i mean, partly because of covid, but no, look, there is a housing crisis. >> they bring partners over. >> they bring partners over. >> uh, my son is subtle , sneaky, >> uh, my son is subtle, sneaky, sneaky , like . sneaky, like. >> yeah, i think maybe it was one of the reasons, ray, that he left. >> but. but, but, but one of the, you know, he actually, he came in to help me because i'd had an operation. but the reason he couldn't move out was he could not afford. he just couldn't find somewhere live . couldn't find somewhere to live. and i mean, in london, it is really, appalling . but it really, really appalling. but it really, really appalling. but it really isn't about migration. i mean, it is that we should have been we haven't been building homes. >> well, something that is the next story we're going to move on is linked to this because we have a housing crisis. but one man has found himself a council house. he got a nice discount on it. who could it be? tom this is this is a hamas fugitive is what
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i've got written here. >> hamas fugitive who ran terror groups operating in the west bank. well, he lives in a council property in north london, but specifically in a borough that is home to roughly a fifth of the uk's jewish community. dawn, how did this happen ? happen? >> yeah, well, a very good question. and that's one that's being asked by the authorities now. he actually served on hamas's ruling body in the west bank, and he lives here with his 56 year old wife . if you know, 56 year old wife. if you know, they use the right to buy scheme to purchase a home in 300 in 2021, but how is managed to get here? he managed to gain. it's not clear in this story how he managed to gain a british passport in the early noughties because the office guidance because the home office guidance states who incites, states that anyone who incites, justifies or glorifies terrorist violence seeks promote others violence or seeks promote others to acts will be denied to terrorist acts will be denied citizenship ship under ordinary is of the problems that is one of the problems that hamas wasn't designated as a
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terror group until the 2010s. >> and if he got a passport before then he the wrong he before then he used the wrong he used a relative's passport, according to the sunday times, less came to the uk in the 90s and then presumably because he managed to stay for so managed to stay here for so long, then was rewarded with long, he then was rewarded with british citizenship. >> but it's quite i mean, presumably our security services know where he is and they've been watching his activities and perhaps, i don't know, there's some kind of justification in that way that they want to keep their eye on him, keep an eye on him. >> well, i don't know. you know, keep you keep your enemies close and your friends. that's always been the same, hasn't it? but i mean, in theory, he's here illegally. it makes story illegally. so it makes the story even when we've just even worse. now, when we've just been discussing that poor family in london, who can't in north london, also who can't get a home. they are literally homeless as well. people who are entered here illegally. from what know and have a right to what we know and have a right to buy a council house at a huge
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discount are still here. and as you say, tom, in an area of london that is home to a very large jewish community, scarlett, i suppose it's obvious that the government would say, oh, this is a disgrace, but i suppose it just shows that a a fairly large lack of control . fairly large lack of control. >> yeah, it does. i mean, i'm not i'm not that worried that he lives within a jewish community. i mean , actually, it's i mean, actually, it's interesting. there's quite a few palestine in palestine nians who live in golders green and presumably he's he hasn't done anything wrong since . i mean, i mean, wrong since. i mean, i mean, i think just because i completely condemn hamas and everything they did. but scarlett , you're they did. but scarlett, you're not saying we shouldn't be. >> we should be unbothered by the fact that there was someone who ran hamas's terrorist operations in west bank operations in the west bank living in this country in social housing. >> i don't know what it look, i don't know what he didn't know. >> i don't know what he did right. i mean, i'd like to know. i've read it in the paper. i mean, as dawn says, he has not been arrested. right. and he's
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not arrested since he not been arrested since since he got actually , the got here. so. so actually, the problem is, is that what we're doing is we're reading newspaper headunes doing is we're reading newspaper headlines and assuming that this man is basically a terrorist, which if he was, he would have been arrested . and all i'm been arrested. and all i'm saying is, is that the jewish population around him, i mean , i population around him, i mean, i hopei population around him, i mean, i hope i hope they don't feel in fear. i hope he's not plotting anything. but but, you know , anything. but but, you know, that somehow it's worse that he's there than he was in devon or somewhere. i mean, i don't this is i worry this is about newspaper headlines and that this is half a story. newspaper headlines and that this is half a story . and that's this is half a story. and that's what i worry about. i i think, i mean , there's lots of detail on mean, there's lots of detail on his on his previous activities in this sunday times report. >> and he certainly doesn't seem to celebrate the existence of jewish people . jewish people. >> is that judging by some of these things, there are 2009 he signed an scholars right that there are there are former terrorists who have i mean, for
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example , al maajid nawaz was example, al maajid nawaz was a member of a terror group, which he then renounced and is now an adjusted member of society. i mean, examples of mean, there are examples of people who have former terrorists. mean, obviously, terrorists. i mean, obviously, we have detail. do we don't have the detail. do we have detail in of have any detail in terms of recent activity? have any detail in terms of recttherctivity? have any detail in terms of rec(the lastty? have any detail in terms of rec(the last activity that we >> the last activity that we have a record of is 2017, when he was he served on hamas politburo as recently as as recently as 2019. >> he took part in an official hamas delegation to moscow, where he met vladimir putin's deputy foreign minister and served on hamas politburo. yeah, this does sound so there we go. >> more recent. >> more recent. >> i mean, i think it's. >> i mean, i think it's. >> well, there's not much more to come in the next few moments. we'll, of course, be back to israel to see what developments have ground there. have been on the ground there. live tel aviv. live in tel aviv. >> hello . very to you. >> hello. very good day to you. >> hello. very good day to you. >> alex burkill and here's >> i'm alex burkill and here's your latest gb news weather update. many it is your latest gb news weather updatnto many it is your latest gb news weather updatnto be many it is your latest gb news weather updatnto be a many it is your latest gb news weather updatnto be a dry many it is your latest gb news weather updatnto be a dry dayny it is your latest gb news weather updatnto be a dry day today, we going to be a dry day today, we do have some wet and windy weather on way. that's in weather on its way. that's in association a system association with a system that's currently france currently sitting over france and push its way
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the heaviest rain likely to be across we could see some further where we could see some further impacts from rain. othennise impacts from the rain. othennise there'll be some hefty showers across southern parts of uk. across southern parts of the uk. could bring hail and some could bring some hail and some thunder for a time. the best chance of staying and bright chance of staying dry and bright will towards more northern chance of staying dry and bright will and wards more northern chance of staying dry and bright will and temperaturesyrthern chance of staying dry and bright will and temperaturesyrtherra areas and temperatures down a touch today . now touch compared to today. now coming up next, shoplifting offences in england and wales have risen by, get this, 25, 25% in the last year alone. >> this is becoming a bit of a crisis this point at the moment. and we'll be bringing you the latest on the government's attempts to crack down on shoplifting. we've heard this many times. let's see, they've got a fancy new tech solution. >> find out what that technical solution is after this .
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very good morning. it is 11 am. on monday, the 23rd of october. this is britain's newsroom here on gb news. with me, tom hannood and emily carver. >> it is so jihad on the streets of london, the home secretary will challenge the met boss today after his officers took no action when supporters of an extremist islamist group chanted jihad during a protest in london just on saturday. >> and the israeli defence forces say that in the past 24 hours they've struck more than 320 targets throughout the gaza
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strip. this while palestinian authority say that homes were hit without warning. this comes as aid is reaching gaza with a second convoy that arrived yesterday. we'll get the very latest with our security editor, mark white on the ground in tel aviv . aviv. >> it's hoped that more is really convoy cars will be allowed through gaza with that vital aid into gaza itself and the airstrikes in gaza are continuing this hour. >> and shoplifting crackdown . a >> and shoplifting crackdown. a new zero tolerance plan will be agreed between ministers, police and retailers today to tackle the problem. but will it work ? the problem. but will it work? >> the aftermath ? residents in >> the aftermath? residents in the most severely flooded parts of angus are returning to their homes to find mind blowing levels of damage in the wake of storm babet .
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storm babet. >> it's hard to imagine, isn't it, tom? if you're living in unaffected areas by this storm. but have you seen the video footage of the destruction that's been caused genuinely ? that's been caused genuinely? roads turned into rivers and fast moving rivers and kids being rather stupid and, you know, flying down the river? >> oh, i've seen some i've seen some children having marvellous fun, like amongst all the horror, but riding on air beds. >> yes, that's what i saw. >> yes, that's what i saw. >> water rapids. >> water rapids. >> what i saw. >> what i saw. >> i suppose you've to make >> i suppose you've got to make the of a bad situation, but the best of a bad situation, but some terrible stuff some terrible, terrible stuff that's houses. but that's happening in houses. but some children, of course, making the of get your thoughts the best of it get your thoughts coming vaiews@gbnews.com. the best of it get your thoughts coming address.@gbnews.com. the best of it get your thoughts coming address. haveews.com. the best of it get your thoughts coming address. have yourom. that's the address. have your area flooded? we to area been flooded? we want to know. you can get in touch >> yes. all you can get in touch on socials at gb news. of course we're there across all of them. but let's get the news but first, let's get the news headunes but first, let's get the news headlines as . good morning. headlines as. good morning. >> 11:02. i'm ray headlines as. good morning. >>11:02. i'm ray addison in the
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newsroom. our top story, israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza . the israel civilians in gaza. the israel defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight and confirmed that they've hit 320 targets in the last 24 hours. they say rocket launchers have been placed next to civilian sites , including schools. sites, including schools. a mosque and a united nations building . meanwhile, in lebanon, building. meanwhile, in lebanon, israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti—tank missiles and rockets . well, missiles and rockets. well, there are unconfirmed reports in there are unconfirmed reports in the last 30 minutes that a third convoy of aid has now left for gaza. it comes after a second convoy carrying humanitarian aid entered gaza last night. 14 trucks went through the rafah crossing. despite that latest delivery , the united nations delivery, the united nations says the current volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average since hamas's attack on october seven. food, water, medicine and fuel have all been,
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in short supply. health authorities in gaza say the death toll there now stands at at least 4600. well, british charities are urging the government to ensure safe passage for refugees fleeing from israel and palestine. organisations including the refugee council say rishi sunak should provide emergency measures, including medical evacuation zones and a refugee protection visa. the groups also want the government to prioritise cases of israelis and palestinians already in the united kingdom asylum system . united kingdom asylum system. transport secretary mark harper told gb news the government is trying to help those in need . trying to help those in need. >> the foreign secretary and the prime minister in the region talking to leaders not just in israel but also in the surrounding countries. so in egypt, in saudi arabia and in qatar working very hard, both deaung qatar working very hard, both dealing with the hostages. the british citizens that have been taken hostage , these other taken hostage, these other citizens that have been taken
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hostage, but also talking to israel , hostage, but also talking to israel, supporting hostage, but also talking to israel , supporting them hostage, but also talking to israel, supporting them in hostage, but also talking to israel , supporting them in their israel, supporting them in their right to defend their country from hamas's attack, but also urging humanitarian support for the innocent palestine people who are just as much a victims of hamas as those living in israel . israel. >> the home secretary will challenge the met police commissioner over the force's decision, not to arrest protesters calling for jihad against israel . that's after against israel. that's after video emerged of a propane estonian protester chanting the term demonstrations over the weekend. suella braverman will hold talks with sir mark rowley later after officers said no offences were identified. some ministers have condemned the police for their handling of rallies in london and other cities, including birmingham, cardiff and belfast . scotland's cardiff and belfast. scotland's first minister has told a resident of brechin it will be a long road to recovery from severe flooding that hit the town. humza yousuf is visiting the area after it was devastated
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by the storm babet floods and the river south esk burst its banks. two people have died in scotland, including wendy taylor, who was swept away in glen esk . a man has been glen esk. a man has been arrested in connection with a fire that ripped through luton airport's terminal two car park earlier on this month. bedfordshire police saying that a man in his 30s had been detained on suspicion of criminal damage as several days after the blaze broke out on october ten. he has since been released on bail, pending further enquiries . bedfordshire further enquiries. bedfordshire fire and rescue service says around 1500 cars were inside the car park and it's unlikely any will be salvageable . all appeal will be salvageable. all appeal court judges will hear from the parents of a critically ill baby today after they lost a high court fight to maintain her life support treatment at indy. gregory, who was born in february, has the genetic condition. mitochondrial disease , which saps energy specially sac queen's medical centre in
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nottingham, say she is dying and a lawyer for the hospital's governing trust said that treatment is painful and futile . treatment is painful and futile. however, indy's parents say their daughter has proved everyone wrong and needs more time . and finally, a man who time. and finally, a man who bought a pool table after winning £2.4 million on the lottery is now queuing up to represent england at the european pool championships . european pool championships. neil jones and his partnerjulie kirkham won the money just before christmas 2010. after getting the table, mr jones took advantage of his free time to sharpen his skills and rise through the ranks. he said, representing his country in malta will be his proudest ever moment . this malta will be his proudest ever moment. this is gb news malta will be his proudest ever moment . this is gb news across moment. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying, play gb news. now let's get back to tom and . emily >> welcome back to britain's
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newsroom with me, emily carver and tom hannood . lots of you and tom hannood. lots of you have been getting in touch. that conversation we were having about housing and the lack of it seems to have got you going. david says young people aren't that bothered about owning house. >> me most want to just work and spend their money. >> we were all young once. i remember tom, but not that bothered. >> i don't know. i just i just wish we still lived in the days when, you know, four times your income could get you a house. now it's more like ten times your income. >> parents always tell >> but as my parents always tell me, rates. me, interest rates. >> interest rates are >> oh, but interest rates are a very different thing on a smaller amount borrowed than on a borrowed. a larger amount borrowed. >> true. that is true change. >> and chris says and quite a lot of you have been saying this, the housing problem this, that the housing problem is due to an increase in population. is the elephant population. that is the elephant in it's in the room. tom, i know it's clearly part it, but clearly part of it, but ultimately, the percentage by which has risen isn't which demand has risen isn't just about migration , because just about migration, because also we've had family . also we've had family. >> it's a proportion of it. but i think you and i would both
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agree that we have a birthrate problem in the uk and that we should be having more babies. so we be having a growing we should be having a growing population, that be population, whether that be currently we're doing that through migration. but in my ideal world we'd be doing that through a higher birth rate. so in either i'll some in either way i'll have some babies housing, need more. babies housing, we'd need more. >> seems happen, >> this always seems to happen, but yes, also lots of people getting in touch about the hamas chief, former chief perhaps, who's been living in a council house in north london, really , house in north london, really, really beggars belief. lots of people getting in touch to say, you know, why is he here? essentially let alone enjoying a discounted accommodation when many thousands of people are on the waiting list for god knows how long? >> so anyway, should we move on? >> so anyway, should we move on? >> well, i just want to i just want to mention, jane, who has written in to say that whilst , written in to say that whilst, yes, we have been talking about how the tories have been about maddening planning reform for some was also some time, it was also the labour that voted down the labour party that voted down the
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nutrient neutrality reform that the government proposed that would have freed up 100 plus thousand homes that the labour party blocked. so it's a plague on all your houses to coin a phrase, yes. >> that was a ridiculous debate. actually >> people saying there were rules only came in in 2019 rules that only came in in 2019 that then had to anyway going to lead to destruction of our environment we dare change anything. >> but there we go. >> but there we go. >> speaking of destruction of environment, a ground invasion of appear imminent. environment, a ground invasion of appear imminent . do of gaza may appear imminent. do you see what i did there with that segway? i don't know if it's particularly appropriate, but did anyway. so but troops and did it anyway. so circle the enclave right now fighting border . the fighting on the border. the israeli prime minister has warned his troops that his people were in a battle for their lives and said the war against hamas is do or die. >> yes, the united nations says a second convoy of aid was allowed to enter gaza, taking aid to millions of people inside the area in need of food, water and medical aid. >> after more than two weeks of bombing. >> well, our homeland security editor mark white, is in tel
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aviv . and mark, what are the aviv. and mark, what are the developments today ? hey developments today? hey >> well, some confirmation from the israeli defence forces that there were cross—border raids from israel into gaza overnight with the aim of taking out some terrorist cells there that were planning to lay booby traps for the israeli ground invasion in when that eventually takes place in force . and during one of in force. and during one of those raids, an israeli soldier was killed and three others were injured. there have been a number of these raids into gaza and they will continue , we're and they will continue, we're told, in the hours and the days aheadin told, in the hours and the days ahead in preparation for that ground invasion. and, of course, those raids in the air, those raids have been accompanied by air strikes from the air that continue to pace with, in fact , continue to pace with, in fact, the most intense night of air
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strikes on gaza since the conflict began just over two weeks ago. 320 targets for the israeli defence forces, the idf say that those targets included tunnels. also so hamas commander and control and other terrorist infrastructure. but the difficulty that they have is, of course , that gaza is a very course, that gaza is a very built up area, especially in gaza city. and the israeli defence forces have accused hamas of cynically using civilians as cover effectively to put their rocket launchers in areas sensitive civilian areas. they put out some photographs that they say shows that these rocket launchers have been put next to kindergartens , next to next to kindergartens, next to schools, a mosque , even a united schools, a mosque, even a united nafions schools, a mosque, even a united nations compound. and while that is taking place, of course, it makes the efforts of the idf in
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trying to take out those targets and avoid civilian casualties , and avoid civilian casualties, all that more difficult. but of course , there is a great deal of course, there is a great deal of pressure coming from western countries, although issuing very pubuc countries, although issuing very public support for israel and its right to defend itself and to go after hamas behind the scenes, they are urging caution and they are trying to implore israel to do all it can to avoid civilian casualties. >> mark, there's been quite a lot of debate over the weekend about israel's response so far and whether it fits within international law. many people throwing around the accusation that there are israel's committing war crimes or that they're not acting rightly in terms of humanitarian well, in terms of humanitarian well, in terms of humanitarian well, in terms of humanely . what do you terms of humanely. what do you say to that ? say to that? >> well, these things have been argued about and debated for
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many years with israel, often accused , used in its strikes accused, used in its strikes into gaza, the west bank or elsewhere or flouting international law. the israel israeli government and israeli defence forces with absolutely deny that they see they take the greatest of care to try to ensure that civilians are not cut up. caught up in those strikes . indeed, israel. strikes. indeed, israel. i think, is the only defence force in the world that i know of that actually says needs either leaflets down warning people to get out of an area or sends these percussion devices down onto the rooftops of buildings, is set off an explosion but don't damage the building. it is a warning to get out of that building as a strike is imminent. so they do try to do that. according to imminent. so they do try to do that . according to the imminent. so they do try to do that. according to the idf and according to the israeli government . but it is extremely
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government. but it is extremely difficult , they say, given the difficult, they say, given the built up nature of what is occurring in gaza, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people, despite being told to clear the area and to head south, have not done so either. unwilling to cede ground to an eventual israeli invasion or being prevented from moving out of that area by hamas . that area by hamas. >> it's extraordinarily to think what might come next. and of course, when the prime minister was over there in the region in recent days, he visited not just israel, but also jordan, saudi arabia and egypt, meeting the leaders of those countries and indeed meeting the leader of the palestinian authority . is there palestinian authority. is there a real risk of spill—over? and what would that mean for the wider middle . east wider middle. east >> i think there is a great potential for there being spill—over. we're already seeing in a more limited way a response
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s from those hamas supporters . s from those hamas supporters. iran backed militant proxies in the area who have been launching missiles and trying to target israeli communities and israeli installations in the north, for instance, a terror group, hezbollah has been launching anti tank missiles and other munitions over that border in recent days. just overnight, the idf took out a number of cells in southern lebanon, which the idf say were planning to launch imminent attacks on israeli communities and on military installations . we've seen installations. we've seen a missile apparently launched from yemen , which were taken out by a yemen, which were taken out by a united states destroy here in the red sea. there they were tracking, according to sources, towards israel. and we've seen
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attacks on us military personnel in syria and iraq. so some real concern that this could escalate further depends on what those proxies and those supporters of hamas decide to do. in the days ahead. if this ground invasion does go ahead in the coming days, that could be a trigger. we know that yesterday when we had very significant escalation in the air strikes into gaza, there was a response from hamas with a lot of rocket fire coming to israel and to tel aviv, where we are just on the southern outskirts of the capital of tel aviv itself. a barrage of rockets in into that area and many other areas around southern and central israel will have been targeted as well . and been targeted as well. and today, less so . butjust in the today, less so. but just in the last hour or two, there have been barrages of rockets that
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have come over into southern and central israel , around ashkelon central israel, around ashkelon in particular. >> thank you very much, mark white. our security editor there live from tel aviv . live from tel aviv. >> yeah, some concerning developments there. but back in the uk , the home secretary, the uk, the home secretary, suella braverman, will challenge the metropolitan police about the metropolitan police about the force's response to incidents during a pro—palestinian protest in london on saturday. yes she's going to challenge the officer's decision to take no action when there was a chance of jihad on there was a chance of jihad on the streets of london and reassure that there can be no place for incitement to hatred or violence on uk streets as well. we're joined now by the former detective superintendent of the metropolitan police, former detective superintendent of the mechaudhry police, former detective superintendent of the mechaudhry .’olice, former detective superintendent of the mechaudhry . and), former detective superintendent of the mechaudhry . and thank you shabnam chaudhry. and thank you so much for making the time for us morning . i suppose there us this morning. i suppose there are difficult operational decisions that the metropolitan police has to make on a day by day, minute by minute basis. in your view , did they get this one wrong? >> no , i don't think they got it
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>> no, i don't think they got it wrong. they worked on the basis of working collaboratively with the crown prosecution service . the crown prosecution service. these were specialised lawyers in counter—terrorism from the crown prosecution service and working with them on saturday in the specialist operations room side by side. the decision was made by the cps that no offence had been committed. the bottom line is this they have to work within the legal framework with what's available to them and they would have considered all options. they'd all also had to consider in terms of counter—terrorism , whether they counter—terrorism, whether they could demonstrate that individuals or groups were inciting or encouraging others to commit acts of terrorism, for example. so they would have worked with everything that was available to them and they made their decision, rightfully . we, their decision, rightfully. we, in collaboration with the crown prosecution service, the cps have got to show that if they charge somebody, there's a strong likelihood of a conviction . and in this case,
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conviction. and in this case, clearly that wasn't the case. so shabnam, is it legal then on the streets of london to call for jihad against israel? >> because as a huge number, i would hazard a guess. the majority of people do not want to see that on our streets. surely it must be some kind of pubuc surely it must be some kind of public order offence. at the very least . very least. >> well, they would have considered all other public order offences and i think that the fact is that jihad means a lot of different things to many different people and they would have considered that when they made their announcements on friday for example, the metropolitan police were very clear. they stipulated that if anybody was displaying hamas flags or any articles that related to counter terrorism or encouraging acts of counter terrorism, they would be subject to arrest. they also talked about the chanting of the by the river, by the sea. and they said clearly that if that was said and charted within the setting
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of the protests on saturday, then the met police would have accepted that. however, if those slogans were then chanted outside of the schools, jewish schools or synagogues , then they schools or synagogues, then they would have been subjected to arrest. so the fact is that in august , in 2021, sir arrest. so the fact is that in august, in 2021, sir mark rowley, he co—authored a report from the commission on counter extremism, which basically advises the government . and they advises the government. and they gave a very clear warning at that time that there was a gaping chasm in laws allowing extremists to operate with impunity . in extremists to operate with impunity. in 2023. the extremists to operate with impunity . in 2023. the report impunity. in 2023. the report into manchester bombings revealed that two years after the report , the home secretary the report, the home secretary was still considering it. so it's clear that the conversation thatis it's clear that the conversation that is going to take place today is whether or not the met police or policing in general needs further legislation in order to be able to address these kinds of issues . these kinds of issues. >> you mentioned there the chanting of from the river to
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the sea, palestine shall be free. now that that is a chant that very clearly is talking about the area between the jordan river and the mediterranean, i.e, the area thatis mediterranean, i.e, the area that is occupied by israel. it's a chant that means wiping out israel from the map . why is it israel from the map. why is it acceptable to chant that at a march? but not acceptable in the eyes of the metropolitan police, to chant that outside a synagogue or a school? surely it should be one rule everywhere for? >> well, i think the as i said, these chants have different meanings to different people . meanings to different people. but what the met has said, if you go and stand outside a synagogue or outside outside a jewish school or in areas where there are individuals that will be highly offended by those comments, then you are inciting hatred or racial hatred and therefore they will consider making further arrests in respect of that, you've got to look at the context of what they're doing and whether or not pubuc they're doing and whether or not public order offences apply in
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different cases, in different settings . very, very difficult settings. very, very difficult decision for the met police to have made. you had something like 150,000 protesters, the met police were working in specialist operations, as i explained, with commanders , with explained, with commanders, with specialist lawyers, with officers that are trained. they would have had spotters out and about within those areas. they would have had superior cognizers in terms of whether there were anybody there that would be, you know, subject to some form of arrest. and so they had to consider all the tactics that they deployed in order. sorry to interrupt you because we're running out of time, but i just want to get in one more question. >> we saw that there was a protest going on at the same time as the main protest. and this was run organised by an islamist group, hizb ut—tahrir. islamist group, hizb ut—tahrir. i believe that is how you pronounce it is quite complicated name, but so that was deemed legal for people to be chanting jihad on the streets of london with that flag present. but this is where
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people have a problem because they seem see some kind of double standard with the way that the police, police because we've seen a woman silently praying near an abortion clinic be arrested . we've seen be arrested. we've seen misgendering sometimes lead to police intervention . we've seen, police intervention. we've seen, you know , calling someone a you know, calling someone a lesbian even led to some kind of arrest or altercation with the police. i think people are concerned , learned that maybe concerned, learned that maybe the police a little bit too nervous with policing these types of events . types of events. >> i don't think that's the case because i heard somebody say that earlier on today about being nervous about making arrests . i think the police arrests. i think the police would have made arrests as and when was necessary. they when it was necessary. they worked within legal worked within the legal framework and with regards to the evidence that was available to that would allow them to to them that would allow them to arrest and then subsequently charge those individuals to bnng charge those individuals to bring them before a court and bnng bring them before a court and bring them before a court and bring them to justice. and i think that's the basis that they work on.
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>> former detective >> well, former detective superintendent at the metropolitan shabnam metropolitan police, shabnam chowdhury, you very chowdhury, we thank you very much time. much for your time. and perspective morning . perspective this morning. >> oh, i still think they got it wrong anyway. >> still to come, shoplifting has risen by a quarter in just the past year. is it time the government took a zero tolerance stance? >> well, they might just do that here with britain's newsroom here
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gb news radio. >> it's 1128 and gb news radio. >> it's1128 and you're gb news radio. >> it's 1128 and you're with britain's newsroom here on gb news with emily carver and me. >> tom hannood yes. >> tom hannood yes. >> so shoplifters, they could be fitted with gps tags so police can track their movements 24 over seven. this is under plans being considered currently by the government . the government. >> well, figures released last week shoplifting week showed that shoplifting offences by police in offences recorded by police in england wales have risen by england and wales have risen by 25% in the last year alone. >> yes. so we're joined by gb news political editor christopher hope from our westminster studio. christopher this has been a mass issue and it seems to be getting worse and worse. the government desperately wants to be seen as being on the side of law and order. what exactly are they proposing . here proposing. here >> well, the idea is, is gps tag so you can track the footprint of someone moving around shops . of someone moving around shops. if it's a persistent offender, someone always is shoplifting. then they can see where where they've been. they've got to do something to lift the numbers of shoplifters being prosecuted. something to lift the numbers of sho;numberweing prosecuted. something to lift the numbers of sho;number of|g prosecuted. something to lift the numbers of sho;number of thefts ecuted. something to lift the numbers of
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sho;number of thefts beingi. the number of thefts being reported was 4.4% last year. it's tiny and no dame sharon white, of course, who runs a john lewis. she says it's a big issue, an epidemic issue for that big flagship retailer, the british retail consortium say it costs £1 billion a year. so in isolation and perhaps no surprise, during the cost of living crisis that people are stealing more things as things are more in shops, are more expensive in the shops, you've say , though, you've got to say, though, elsewhere on crime, the figures out last week from the ons show a big fall across the board in violent crime, criminal damage , violent crime, criminal damage, murders, anti—social behaviour . murders, anti —social behaviour. these murders, anti—social behaviour. these are areas which are also difficult crimes, but it seems there's been a big in there's been a big spike in shoplifting . and that's why at shoplifting. and that's why at lunchtime we're seeing a round table conversation between chris philp, who's a policing minister, with retail bosses, to try and work out a way to bring that number down. >> it's clearly a big issue that has affected so many different parts of the country. and we've seen shops use sort of cameras, body cameras now on on shop assistants at checkout . it's it assistants at checkout. it's it is an electric tag system really
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going to go far or enough or is this simply an area where we need more police ? need more police? >> well, tom, we always need more police . i think most people more police. i think most people agree with that. i mean, 130,000 or so has we have seen some more police, haven't we? under boris johnson's pledge when he became prime minister, the labour party is saying there'll be more police if they win the election next year. but many of us don't really see enough police on the beats just on the beat, just to reassure. that's part but reassure. so that's part of but that's very costly. it may be cheaper idea of gps cheaper to have the idea of gps tags , those cameras around the tags, those cameras around the neck of a shop workers neck of a shop shop workers often to protect shop often to protect the shop workers, try and workers, much as to try and track down repeated offenders workers, much as to try and track dovyou epeated offenders workers, much as to try and track dovyou canited offenders workers, much as to try and track dovyou can imagine|ders workers, much as to try and track dovyou can imagine an's because you can imagine an offender be to offender wouldn't be going to the they'd walk out of the the till they'd walk out of the shop. but the idea of using data to try and track using even i tom try and find find tom to try and find people find repeated offenders is something which is which out there and which is which is out there and is moving up moving up is and is moving up moving up the policy chain at the moment.
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>> think one of the major >> yes. i think one of the major issuesis >> yes. i think one of the major issues is that people who are working in these shops will call the someone who the police about someone who keeps in and stealing and keeps coming in and stealing and nothing is done. if the cost of the items isn't high enough. yeah. thank you for your time, christopher christopher hope, their political editor from our westminster studio. >> yes . and it's so often it's >> yes. and it's so often it's such a large proportion of the theft is done a very small theft is done by a very small proportion of thieves . it's proportion of thieves. it's almost a perito principle moment . still to come, though , the . still to come, though, the wake of the storm. >> some people living in brecon could be permanently out of their homes following massive flooding caused by storm babet. tony maguire is in the area. >> blacklisted books, cambridge library are making a list of problematic books that might cause offence . but are we on cause offence. but are we on a path now to something more dark? >> i think we might be drunken flyers after multiple reports emerge of drunken disorderly behaviour on planes. we'll ask our panel. is it time to ban drinking on flights? >> not on my watch. that's and
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so much more after your morning news with ray addison . news with ray addison. >> thanks. both. good morning. it's 1132. our top stories. israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza. the israel defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight. several blasts at various compounds overnight . they say compounds overnight. they say rocket launchers have been placed next to civilian sites, including schools, a mosque and a un building. meanwhile, in lebanon , an israeli aircraft hit lebanon, an israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti—tank missiles and rockets . anti—tank missiles and rockets. there are unconfirmed reports in the last hour that a third convoy of aid has now left for gaza. it comes after a second convoy of 14 trucks carrying humanity supplies went through the rafah crossing last night. despite that latest delivery, the un says the current volume of aid is just 4% of the usual daily average . sir keir starmer
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daily average. sir keir starmer says the government may have to toughen laws on hate crime . the toughen laws on hate crime. the labour leader was speaking after the met police decision not to arrest protest leaders calling for jihad against israel at forjihad against israel at demonstrations over the weekend. earlier, the home secretary said she would challenge that decision . at a meeting with the decision. at a meeting with the met police commissioner, sir mark sir keir says mark rowley. sir keir says preventing hate is everyone's responsible duty. obviously the police are independent operationally , so these are operationally, so these are decisions for them . decisions for them. >> but i think there have already been identified some gapsin already been identified some gaps in the law in a previous review under this government, and i think the government needs to look at whether there are gaps law that need to be gaps in the law that need to be addressed as well. but the primary obligation is on all of us to drive down, down us to drive down, to clamp down on crime, because has on hate crime, because that has a huge all of the time. a huge impact all of the time. but particularly at the moment. >> and scotland's first minister has told a resident of brecon it will be a long road to recovery from severe flooding that hit the town. humza yousaf is visiting the area after it was
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devastated by the storm. babette floods and the river south esk burst its banks. two people have died in scotland, including wendy taylor, who was swept away in glen esk . you can get more on in glen esk. you can get more on all of those stories on our website, gbnews.com . for website, gb news.com. for exclusive website, gbnews.com. for exclusive limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> shall we take a look at the markets? the pound will buy you $1.2146 and ,1.1463. price of gold £1,628.56 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7354 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> still to come, the government will stop using 100 migrant hotels , but only in key election
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hotels, but only in key election battleground seats in a bid to improve the tory election. hopes so . so. >> so. >> presumably there'll be more hotels elsewhere in the country. hope not ideal. >> just hope to not live in a safe seat. really. right? well is this a strategic plan or just a bit too sneaky? yes. >> this is business newsroom on gb news. stay
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here on gb news with emily carver and me. tom hannood you are indeed now residents in the most severely flooded part of angus are returning to their homes to find mind blowing levels of damage as the clean up begins of that begins in the wake of that storm. well, the first minister of scotland, humza yousaf, has been the area and spoke with been in the area and spoke with gb news. >> well, i'm here because i wanted to be very clear to the residents who have met, who have been into their homes, to the businesses that have meant that the government is standing alongside our partners in angus council to do everything we can to given the to support them. given the devastating nation and the scale of devastation we've of the devastation we've seen from storm babbitt. so we will do everything we to can support them. but i do everything we to can support them. buti have do everything we to can support them. but i have been heart warmed. my heart has warmed in the last few days when we've seen scale the community seen the scale of the community response . response. >> that was humza yousaf >> well, that was humza yousaf talking to gb news. so let's go live now to tony maguire in brighton. tony tell us what's happenedin brighton. tony tell us what's happened in the aftermath of
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this . storm. this. storm. >> indeed. well, it's been four days really since that rainy, rainy, rainy thursday. and where i was here and along with a lot of other people trying to work out just how bad of other people trying to work outjust how bad it was going to out just how bad it was going to get. and, of course, the answer was unprecedented. and indeed, the wording that the met office used, if you remember , is used, if you remember, is exceptional and persistent rain. and while that played out, in fact, at 4:00 in the friday morning, the wall for the river broke flooding the local pub about around 100 homes and a caravan park. so in the cold light of day here in brighton and the following week , you and the following week, you know, residents are returning to their homes and they're seeing their homes and they're seeing their furniture in disarray . we their furniture in disarray. we were in a lady's home earlier on today who lived on river street and certainly it looked like she hadn't even been able to get up the courage to move the
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furniture back in place. the level of damp and you know, just broken and cluttered furniture and objects around the home just served a really telling story of what the first minister said. there was utter devastation . and there was utter devastation. and now behind me, just over my right shoulder, you can see my food truck. and indeed, that is for the 150 plus residents who are still going without power. several days later. now, scottish and southern electricity network, they've been able to connect somewhere in the region of about 34,000 homes following the rain in the weather. the tail end of last week. however some are still without power . and i just spoke without power. and i just spoke to a couple of gentlemen there. and, you know, they're saying it's actually warmer out here in the sunshine than it is inside their homes. now, certainly they're giving out some free snacks and they're also , you snacks and they're also, you know, here in brecon giving out various other items to help people who may have been
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temporarily displaced , people temporarily displaced, people who perhaps can't go back to their homes because of the devastation . ian and the first devastation. ian and the first minister, humza yousaf , while he minister, humza yousaf, while he made the walk right along river street today, he spoke to lots of residents , you know, of residents, you know, individually. check in on them to see how they were doing. he also spoke to some of the emergency services and rescue and recovery teams who rescued people and dogs from more than 100 homes. and indeed , and he 100 homes. and indeed, and he even he as you can as you can hear sorry from his his statement there, you know, it was really struck by the picture here in britain . here in britain. >> well, tony maguire, thank you very much for bringing us the very much for bringing us the very latest there. as communities recover from storm babet. >> yeah , unimaginable, >> yeah, unimaginable, unimaginable sitting here really , really awful damage that's been done to people's homes, their communities, their businesses , etcetera, etcetera, businesses, etcetera, etcetera, their cars also. but now we have their cars also. but now we have the former editor of the daily star, dawn neesom , and the star, dawn neesom, and the former adviser to the labour party mccgwire, party, scarlett mccgwire, who joined us discuss what we've
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joined to us discuss what we've been talking about. oh, sorry. i think i stopped holding hands. >> you two. i'm not holding hands. >> i'm very sorry. sorry. >> i'm very sorry. sorry. >> blossoming relationship. >> blossoming relationship. >> i want to talk about this story . i want to talk about this story. i want to talk about this story. i want to talk about this story. tori, stop using hotels in election battlegrounds for migrants. dawn, take it away. well just within hours of the conservative party's bruising double by—election loss , this is announced. >> basically, it's a it's a very controversial policy. it has been from day one. it hasn't. it it's costing £8 million a day to house 50,000 migrants in the channel house 50,000 migrants in the channel, migrants in about 400 hotels across britain . and it's hotels across britain. and it's caused lots of problems locally. there's one hotel in cornwall that were offered a ridiculous amount of money, over £1 million for the government to take over this particular hotel to just house migrants. and but it would have destroyed the local economy which bring depended entirely on tourism . you've had protests in
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tourism. you've had protests in wales and at hotels around the country. it's not good for the economy. it's not for good the hotels, it's not good for the local residents. and it's probably for the probably not good for the migrants so the tories migrants either. so the tories have they are have announced that they are going to using hotels in going to stop using hotels in key battlegrounds. and going to stop using hotels in kthink battlegrounds. and going to stop using hotels in kthink that battlegrounds. and going to stop using hotels in kthink that is attlegrounds. and going to stop using hotels in kthink that is theegrounds. and going to stop using hotels in kthink that is the cluends. and going to stop using hotels in kthink that is the clue there. 1d i think that is the clue there. the hotels in places including stoke and wigan, will stop taking migrants by the end of march. the conservatives are saying this is because there are less migrants crossing the channel. the £480 million deal we struck with france is actually working. evidently i'm reading this out. honestly, i don't necessarily believe everything i'm reading out, however, so that's their excuse. but i'm a little bit cynical about it. >> it's incredibly brazen, isn't it? but scarlett mccgwire , i it? but scarlett mccgwire, i wonder counts as an wonder what counts as an election battleground these days . i mean, if mid—bedfordshire is going to go red, then that's just every seat in the country, isn't it? >> so, yes, if they really want to win an election, they need to just stop using hotels. >> but some of us think that actually what they should stop
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using hotels because as dawn says, they're bad for everybody , says, they're bad for everybody, including migrants, but including the migrants, but particularly the local particularly for the local people, what we should people, because what we should have is a proper asylum system that and it's i mean, that works. and it's i mean, i mean, frankly, you know, it's not just the people who come on boats. it's people who come other ways. but but , but boats. it's people who come other ways. but but, but but boats. it's people who come other ways. but but , but but we, other ways. but but, but but we, you know, to save money. many years ago , they cut down. years ago, they cut down. i mean, we've known about this for years and years and years . and years and years and years. and we keep on saying, get a proper asylum system, send people back and keep the refugees . this is and keep the refugees. this is what you do. and they can't. >> the problem is we don't have agreements in place to send people back who come from countries with whom we don't have agreements and until until we have a third country like rwanda up and running, where do we send people back to you send a lot of people can go back to their to their home countries , right? >> i mean, i know there's a specific agreement with albania. we need an agreement we didn't need an agreement with albania. albania is not a dangerous country. i mean , i do
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dangerous country. i mean, i do think that we need we need to think that we need to we need to look at it properly. >> in yes. theory, >> in theory, yes. in theory, yes. scarlet, should that yes. scarlet, that should that should be the case. but in practise law practise s with the law profession as it is, and with the law as it is, let's not. no, no, no. it's very hard to deport people. it's very hard to deport people. it's very hard to deport people from this country, is it not, tom? it is very difficult. we have very low deportation numbers. not because numbers. and that's not because the want the government doesn't want to deport people . it's because deport people. it's because there so many hoops and there are so many hoops and hurdles and obstacles in the way it takes. >> it takes four years to process an asylum case. if it took a few weeks, then we would then we would be able to move four years. yeah, that's this is this is four years. >> this. this is this is crucial because these are two different things, isn't it? once a decision has been made, are we able but also, able to deport people? but also, scarlett, you're absolutely right. be the case right. it used to be the case that it was a matter of days or weeks that a process be weeks that a process would be heard. it doesn't matter. heard. and it doesn't matter. putting in a for putting someone in a hotel for a week their case is being
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week while their case is being heard. matters heard. what matters is if they're languishing for they're languishing there for years as people are currently doing, system is so doing, because the system is so slow. absolutely. doing, because the system is so sl01and absolutely. doing, because the system is so sl01and so absolutely. doing, because the system is so sl01and so to solutely. doing, because the system is so sl01and so to have ly. cynical >> and so to have this cynical thing people don't thing of because people don't like locals don't like like i mean, locals don't like having their hotels being used for migrants when actually they should used for them . should be being used for them. and as as dawn said, you and as as as dawn said, you know, in somewhere like cornwall hotels are used they're tourist. they bring in the tourists. people can stay there. so, so actually , i just i mean, i think actually, i just i mean, i think it's amazing. i mean , i mean, it's amazing. i mean, i mean, how blatant can you be to say, well, we're just going to get rid of it? and as you say, what is a key battleground anymore now? >> i think i think probably in in defence of i can't believe i'm saying this in defence of the current government. well they probably did was release, release press release saying release a press release saying yeah we're going to do it in this this area in this this area. this area in this area. and the times might have interpreted as election, interpreted that as election, but they put a press but i doubt they put a press release out saying we're going to election to do this in an election battle. >> e“ battle. >> it like that is >> but choose it like that is just you just think, you know.
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and also, it's really, really bad . it's really bad for bad. it's really bad for politics people so you look politics that people so you look at it , politics that people so you look at it, you're a person who actually like me, believes that most people are in politics for good reason. you this good reason. you look at this and you think cynicism and people out there who who do not have that we have in have the trust that we have in politicians . right. just politicians. right. we'll just say it for say they're all in it for themselves. this is this is blatant. >> think that's why you have >> i think that's why you have such low turnout. know such a low turnout. i know notoriously by elections have low rather than general low turnouts rather than general elections you elections as well. but, you know, sort like, you know, know, sort of like, you know, the recent by—election is like 30% turnout. i think people are just dis enchanted with just so dis enchanted with politics matter what colour politics no matter what colour politics no matter what colour politics you support, you just think they're all the same . i think they're all the same. i don't believe a word any of them are saying. nothing seems to get done we've another year done and we've got another year of go and i know, and of this to go and i know, and particularly young actually, of this to go and i know, and partic being young actually, of this to go and i know, and partic being givennung actually, of this to go and i know, and partic being given a1g actually, of this to go and i know, and partic being given a lectureilly, of this to go and i know, and partic being given a lecture by, i was being given a lecture by by by somebody in their early 30s you know, we've we've 30s about, you know, we've we've been there. >> we've watched it . we don't >> we've watched it. we don't believe anything anymore. and >> we've watched it. we don't beliparties'thing anymore. and >> we've watched it. we don't beliparties'thingenuinelye. and >> we've watched it. we don't beliparties'thingenuinely so .nd the parties are genuinely so similar the parties are genuinely so similmean , if we go back to >> i mean, if we go back to 2001, turnout was
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2001, the turnout was approaching 50, approaching half the population. for a general election. i think we might well head maybe not at the next general election, but perhaps the one after that. back to that point, it's a concerning situation, but other concerning stories are be discussed stories are to be discussed today cambridge library, today because cambridge library, dawn are making a list of offensive books. >> i mean, it's going to be a very short list in my world because there is no such thing as an offensive book, is there not? >> no. what about a racist book? >> well, yeah, but books are there, right? and if we're talking talking talking we're talking about historic books here. mein historic books here. okay. mein kampf. which kampf. mein kampf, which actually a great trigger for actually is a great trigger for debate and finding out what mistakes were made in the past and what can learn for the and what we can learn for the future. think when we're future. i think when we're cancelling our literature statues, any of this stuff we learn from it. surely that is the point of why these works were done in the first place. so no, i don't think it should be. i mean, it doesn't actually say what books they are cancelling in the piece i'm reading here. >> but to be fair, dawn, they're
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not cancelling what they're saying is they're looking at difficult books. >> ruining >> scarlett, stop ruining a story. on. story. come on. >> got it. this is. this is putting. putting books in a section saying these are offensive. you can read them, but know that they're offensive. >> but i mean, quite >> but i mean, it's quite interesting. so i was named after gone with the wind, which is all about scarlett o'hara. and when i was a teenager, i was talking with a slightly older, young i said, young black woman and i said, oh, know, gone with the wind oh, you know, gone with the wind is favourite film. and she is my favourite film. and she said , if you're and you said, if you're black and you read it is so, so racist . it read it, it is so, so racist. it andits read it, it is so, so racist. it and it's quite so . i mean, all and it's quite so. i mean, all this and it is, i mean, it won't be on anybody's list because it is just sort of trivial literature. but actually it is deeply racist if you read it from that way and you know, and mein kampf, i mean , do you think mein kampf, i mean, do you think we read it? do you think we need , you know, stickers or guidance for universities ? for universities? >> who is making the decisions to trigger trigger warnings? >> because you know, what is offensive to someone isn't
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offensive to someone isn't offensive to someone isn't offensive to another. can't we read a book and find out if it's exactly. >> that's the point. who is making this decision that we might find it offensive? i'm suggesting i'm old enough if you're a student, if you're a student at cambridge university and you don't know that mein kampf might be a bit offensive, i probably shouldn't be i think it probably shouldn't be at university at cambridge university university, don't know. university, but i don't know. >> know. but there is >> i don't know. but there is the other point this, right, the other point of this, right, which has which is the government has a policy with statues, for example, retain and explain, keep but explain the keep it there, but explain the context which put up. context in which it was put up. is not in that sort of is this list not in that sort of tradition then? >> i think i think they're trying put it in sort of trying to put it in that sort of tradition of saying, you know, some people this some people might find this offensive, you can read the offensive, but you can read the book and there's your explanation. >> surely . >> surely. >> surely. >> i suppose it depends how blurb as long as it's not putting a harry potter style restricted section of the library. if it's if it's just if i don't know about you. >> but if i were a student and i saw restrict dotted area, i'd dash over there to take out those books. >> i do think we have to
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remember that we talk about this in cambridge university and woke and everything. the and everything. i mean, the people really books are people who really ban books are the i mean, they ban the americans. i mean, they ban masses of books. they i mean, in schools, in schools, in schools. and something like harry potter is considered very dangerous because it's about magic. and it's not christian. i mean , i it's not christian. i mean, i think that we have that it is a worldwide problem of censorship. it's not anything new. >> i suppose this is a lot less worrying than changing the words of books, which we've seen the phenomenon of growing in recent years as well. >> yeah, no, it is, it is, yeah. i mean , they were written if i mean, they were written if we're talking about the older things you know, of their time, i mean this weekend random thing we were doing, we were looking at some old album covers, vinyl album covers. scarlett knows what i mean. vinyl vinyl. and we were looking at some of those that used to be able to buy in woolworths. remember woolworths? and the 70s . and some of and from the 70s. and some of those album covers now problematic. oh my lord, they
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were very problematic. yeah, i mean semi—naked women selling albums in woollies . so it made albums in woollies. so it made us laugh. delightful. >> on the note of semi—naked women , there are none here. women, there are none here. >> so what a note to end the program on is what was is what i was going to say. >> i don't know. i've clearly stuck my foot in it. let's move on. perhaps see what's coming up next on the live desk with mark longhurst. mark, i it's longhurst. mark, i hope it's a lot more appropriate on your program. >> i'm afraid. program. >> yeah,:raid. program. >> yeah, we've got the serious stuff coming we'll be asking stuff coming up. we'll be asking the has the ground the question, has the ground offensive actually begun in gaza? because israeli gaza? because the israeli military revealed they've launched the launched raids into the territory believe now territory where they believe now 220 being held. 220 hostages are being held. also in southern gaza, people moving head back north for more airstrikes. the latest near the rafah crossing. we'll have the latest live with our security editor, mark white in tel aviv. more coming up at noon. >> well, we look fonnard to it, mark. and we've come to the end of this program, but i just want
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to make one little quick and important we end important note before we end this which is it's my this program, which is it's my mother's birthday this morning, so have a very, very happy so mum have a very, very happy birthday and i will see you on thursday very soon your thursday very soon for your birthday treat. sure she's birthday treat. i'm sure she's very of you. very proud of you. >> so . >> so. >> so. >> oh, i try. i try. >> so. >> oh, i try. i try . well, see >> oh, i try. i try. well, see you tomorrow at 930 . you tomorrow at 930. >> hello. very good day to you. i'm alex burkill and here's your latest gb news weather update. whilst for many it is going to be a dry day today, we do have some wet and windy weather on its that's association its way. that's in association with that's currently with a system that's currently sitting over france going to sitting over france and going to push way northwards as we go push its way northwards as we go through the next 24 hours. we also a front out towards also have a front out towards the us and that's the west of us and that's already brought heavy rain already brought some heavy rain across into across parts of cornwall into repubuc as across parts of cornwall into republic as well. and republic of ireland as well. and that going to bring some that is going to bring some further heavy rain here as go further heavy rain here as we go through of this through the rest of this afternoon. othennise, for many, it's a largely picture with it's a largely dry picture with some spells the some bright, sunny spells. the best towards the north. best of these towards the north. it is also quite a mild day ,
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it is also quite a mild day, less so towards northern areas, but in the south, looking at highs around 60 or 70 celsius highs of around 60 or 70 celsius through this evening and overnight, we're going to see a spell of weather pushing its spell of wet weather pushing its way initially across way in. initially across parts of south—east, but then of the south—east, but then spreading further north as spreading a bit further north as we through the hours of we go through the early hours of tuesday morning . notice the tuesday morning. notice also the rain across western parts will spread bit further east spread a little bit further east across of wales and across parts of wales and southern . could be southern england. could be heavy at times, relatively mild at times, too. a relatively mild night. staying in night. most places staying in double figures, but chillier towards the north—west, perhaps a for north—west a touch of frost for north—west scotland. a fairly wet day on scotland. so a fairly wet day on tuesday for many places. the heaviest rain likely to be across eastern parts of england where could see some further where we could see some further impacts rain. impacts from the rain. othennise, there'll be some hefty southern hefty showers across southern parts bring parts of the uk. could bring some hail and some thunder for a time. the best chance of staying dry and bright will be towards more areas and more northern areas and temperatures touch temperatures down a touch compared
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