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tim davie would not shocked that tim davie would not agree to calling hamas terrorists because it may hurt some people's feelings . some people's feelings. >> to me this is mind boggling. everyone knows that hamas is a terrorist organisation. it's a proscribed terrorist organisation here in this country. every other news agency like the great gb news, also considers this to be a terrorist organisation. what on earth the director—general thinks is going on? i don't know, but he is so far out of touch with the people of this great country, and particularly the jewish community, here but community, not just here but around the world. brought around the world. he's brought shame institution and shame upon this institution and has made the case. why now more than the british taxpayer than ever, the british taxpayer should to continue should not have to continue paying should not have to continue paying tax. meanwhile paying the telly tax. meanwhile bringing you up to date with events in israel itself. >> sirens have been sounding tonight after tonight in tel aviv after a barrage of hamas rockets targeted the city. tonight, gbcs news team on the ground gb news. his team on the ground filmed as israel's iron dome missile defence system tracked a number of incoming rockets a short time
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after one defence system missile was launched, an explosion was seen in the southern outskirts of the city. well, the authorities did confirm four people suffered minor injuries when the rocket landed. israel meanwhile, has reportedly agreed to delay its ground invasion and allow the us to place missile defence systems around their assets in the middle east. meanwhile, here the prime minister is refusing to support calls for a ceasefire, despite pressure from more than 80 mps to do so. instead, rishi sunak is backing what he's calling specific pauses in the conflict to allow for the safe delivery of aid to the territory. five british people are among more than 200 still being held hostage in gaza and regarding that aid, the ministry of defence has confirmed an raf plane led at the uk today carrying 21 tonnes of supplies, which include medical equipment and water filters . now a news and water filters. now a news away from israel and three
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people have been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage after london's wellington arch was vandalised . just stop oil was vandalised. just stop oil posted video of activists spraying orange paint on the grade one listed structure, which is almost 200 years old. they then set off their orange flares . the stunt was part of flares. the stunt was part of the group's ongoing campaign, demanding that the government stops granting new oil and gas licences . politics and peter licences. politics and peter bone has been suspended from the house of commons for six weeks over bullying and sexual misconduct allegations . the misconduct allegations. the wellingborough mp, who denies the allegations, has already been expelled from the party. it means another by elections looming for rishi sunak as a recall petition will now be arranged . and lastly, gb news arranged. and lastly, gb news presenter anne diamond has been made an obe a buckingham palace. today the journalist and presenter received the honour from his majesty the king for her services to public health
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and charity and the award recognised her campaigning efforts for research into cot death following the death of her own son sebastian, from sudden infant death syndrome. she's called the moment a crowning achievement to everyone who helped her campaign in the this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners. >> i'm leo carson, joining me tonight to make an absolute mockery out of thursday's newspapers are two of the most insightful comedians in this room. >> paul cox and lewis schaffer. how are you both doing? great, thanks , leo. thanks, leo. >> ready to be insightful and interesting about the news. >> well, how about you, lewis?
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>> well, how about you, lewis? >> i'm ready to try to be a comedian. okay >> give it a go. give it a go. one day you'll get there. lewis. ihave one day you'll get there. lewis. i have faith. i have faith. anyway, let's have a look at thursday's front pages. the daily mail leads with labour thursday's front pages. the daily mitselfads with labour thursday's front pages. the daily mitself apart th labour thursday's front pages. the daily mitself apart on labour thursday's front pages. the daily mitself apart on israel, tearing itself apart on israel, while guardian has fears of while the guardian has fears of worsening humanitarian crisis in gaza as fuel runs short, the daily express leads with where is the hope? amidst shared grief, the metro has blackmail sex cop had 210 girl victims . sex cop had 210 girl victims. the daily mirror leads with bulger killers parole bid in secret, and the daily star has mystic mugs . and those were your mystic mugs. and those were your front pages . and let's have a front pages. and let's have a closer look at those front pages. start with tomorrow's guardian poll. well, what's good to read? the guardian , leo fears to read? the guardian, leo fears of worsening humanitarian disaster in gaza as fuel runs short. >> so this is relief efforts in
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gaza will be forced to stop unless fuel supplies reach the besieged territory. the main un agency working there has warned . agency working there has warned. i'm not sure the guardian understood lands war because this this definitely by israel is a ploy . is a ploy. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they've got a certain amount of control over the fuel supply into the into gaza and into palestine and they're defending their territory and they're well within their rights to do this. can you imagine the guardian reporting on world war ii with a sympathetic view on the germans, for instance , and the? it just for instance, and the? it just would be unheard of. >> and complaining that dresden was getting bombed. >> oh, those poor dresden. well, at and to be fair, this is why they'll always have a case because none of us thought that the dresden cities of dresden deserve to be bombed in that way. you know, it's just way. but, you know, it's just part of war, isn't it? unfortunately the thing that angers me the most about this story is they still insist
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story is that they still insist they still insist are below a picture of morning israeli women. it says murdered by hamas militants. and i can't get my head around how we're still calling them militants when they are a proscribed uk law proscribed terrorist group. >> well, i think it's only leftists that call the militants the sort of people who will probably have them have a poster next to che guevara on their wall of these these terrorists. i mean , lewis, are you as i mean, lewis, are you as bloodthirsty and cynical as paul? uh i mean, the thing is horrible . horrible. >> well, you can't make light about it, but at the end of the day, there's 200. >> there's 200 hostages that that are in gaza. and the first step would be for maybe to release the hostages and then we could talk and when there's a place called masada in in israel where the jews held out against the romans and the romans basically did the same thing, they blocked all of the all of they blocked all of the all of
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the entry points and the water and everything . and to get to and everything. and to get to get the jews to give up. and the jews didn't give up . they jews didn't give up. they committed suicide. and i guess that's what i want to say, is it's a horrible situation. yeah, but the fuel is also i mean, it's not just used by hospitals. >> in fact, that's probably why they're probably further down they're probably further down the list in terms of priorities for hamas than hamas is tunnel network, which is i mean, it's hundreds of kilometres of tunnel they're hiding in the tunnels and they have to have ventilation systems powered by this fuel to keep the air circulating through the tunnels or run air and they or they run out of air and they have to out the tunnels have to come out of the tunnels where when the idf can shoot where when the idf can can shoot them. the idf is, you know, them. and the idf is, you know, this this is almost a way of forcing them out of the tunnels. >> i the idea that hamas >> i guess the idea that hamas are after palestinians are looking after palestinians is saying the farmer is the same as saying the farmer is the same as saying the farmer is looking after turkeys in december. they're not december. but it's they're not looking they're looking after anyone. they're looking after anyone. they're looking their self looking after their self and their self preservation . and their own self preservation. and they palestinian they consider palestinian citizens as collateral damage in the same way that perhaps an israeli bomb does. >> i think i think we make a
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mistake when we disassociate hamas from the palestinian people or even hezbollah from the is that hamas speaks for a lot of palestinians. it's not like there's only like after world war ii ended, you thought there was only maybe 5 or 10. >> i mean, the whole country became . became. >> i'm not saying hamas are , but >> i'm not saying hamas are, but the but they but the people see, you know, arguably in their outlook and in their stated intent, you know , they're just intent, you know, they're just as extreme. but the people feel that they're doing what's necessary to beat the israelis, to beat the jews. they're doing what's necessary. so . okay what's necessary. so. okay you've run out of words. >> so let's move to on the daily mail now. lewis the daily mail is it this is this is the same story, not the same story, but it comes home. >> labour tearing itself apart on and basically starmer on israel and basically starmer at prime minister's questions
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today didn't mention anything about the about israel and he basically is coming down as best as he can in the middle which is not good enough for the people who support what's for the palestinians , for hamas, muslim palestinians, for hamas, muslim mps . mps. >> labour's got quite a few muslim mps who are right and a lot of councillors and then and so, so basically they're saying to starmer that . the we're going to starmer that. the we're going to starmer that. the we're going to go i don't know what they're saying, it's tom moore. well thanks for doing your research for us, paul. could you sum it up without sounding like you're having sort of medical having some sort of medical whole about story? whole thing about this story? >> man at the top doesn't >> is the man at the top doesn't know he believes. know himself what he believes. you back three years and you just go back three years and he was supporting corbyn's bid to minister and he to become prime minister and he was supporting everything that corbyn i know feels corbyn said. i know this feels like ground, but it's really like old ground, but it's really important the context. important for the context. keir starmer doesn't himself starmer doesn't know himself what what he's what he believes, so what he's trying do is a game here
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trying to do is play a game here where trying to please where he's trying to please everybody and that never works. yeah, work. i mean, yeah, it doesn't work. i mean, i'm myself. i often i'm a centrist myself. i often get caught middle, but on get caught in the middle, but on big subjects, you have know big subjects, you have to know what the voters have what the people, the voters have to what you think. to know what you think. >> a problem for the >> but this is a problem for the labour party because mean, the labour party because i mean, the muslim vote and there's a lot of muslims the uk. i think or muslims in the uk. i think 4 or 6, i can't remember 6, 6 million, i can't remember how many and 85% of british muslims voted for jeremy corbyn's labour which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge s labour which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge , labour which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge , you)ur which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge , you know, which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge , you know, a which muslims voted for jeremy cthuge , you know, a hugeh proportion. >> well, he was very anti—israel. >> yeah, he was. i mean, obviously i'm not saying that's that's why . but it probably that's why. but it probably didn't put a lot of them off. but, but, but yeah. so under jeremy corbyn, that was a huge block for labour and it's replaced the sort of white working class vote in post—industrial towns in the north and in places like that. so, so this, this is a big deal for labour. this, this is tearing apart the, you know what the labour party's been for the last few years. >> i think paul is wrong. is that sometimes, is that. yeah. sometimes it does work. i think
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with, with what's his name. blair. tony blair. he promised everything and he wasn't caught out. this case, he's out. but in this case, he's caught out. eventually there becomes subject where need becomes a subject where we need to exactly you're to know what exactly you're thinking, right? >> focus group your >> you can't focus group your way out of this one. >> you can't just smile. i'll tell we're going to do tell you what we're going to do later, and then the election comes everything's all comes and everything's all right. being caught right. so. so he's being caught out and going have to out and he's going to have to decide side he's yeah decide what side he's on. yeah and impression is, is that if and my impression is, is that if he sides with the pro gaza people, he's going to lose , lose people, he's going to lose, lose or maybe i'm wrong he's no, he'll alienate a lot of middle middle england middle britain which you know they're the people who need to need to vote for him. and those are the people moving in his people who are moving in his direction. moving direction. they're moving towards labour party the towards the labour party in the same move towards same way that they move towards tony you know, they just tony blair. you know, they just said, well, not as bad as i said, well, he's not as bad as i thought he going to be. thought he was going to be. everything's going to be okay. and if he supported and and if he supported gaza and what's in gaza, what's going on in gaza, which was was the most was which was one of the most atrocious situations ever . atrocious situations ever. >> srx maybe this, you know, >> srx but maybe this, you know, this from this uproar against him from
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from the sort of from fringes, from the sort of far left of the party will actually into his hands and far left of the party will actua|him into his hands and far left of the party will actua|him seem .0 his hands and far left of the party will actua|him seem more hands and far left of the party will actua|him seem more palatable to make him seem more palatable to to centrists. anyway, to the the centrists. anyway, moving on, what's what have the telegraph on the front page poll? >> well, there's a couple of things going on here of interest. dangerous. i may pose existential threat to humanity, says rishi sunak. so this is ahead of the flagship ai summit . ahead of the flagship ai summit. pm to stress the need to be honest about the risks posed by the nascent, i hear this every week and i've yet to be killed by a laptop. >> so was the other was the other story on that. so yeah, that's a good point. >> farage bank boss data rules and must be sorry. farage bank boss broke data rules and must not get £10 million payout. so this is the fact that the boss at at coutts alison rose is looking down the barrel of a £10 million payout, which is not entirely unusual if you leave a huge job like that. but it is unusual when you're quite clearly broken the law in some way and you've thrown someone
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under the bus pretend it under the bus and pretend it didn't then being didn't happen and then being caught going, oh, caught out and going, oh, i'm really sorry, £10 million really sorry, i'm a £10 million now, please. that's a problem. >> lose any time i've been >> lose lose any time i've been fired from a job and sure fired from a job and i'm sure you've from from a you've been fired from from a few as well. no doubt. i've not been like oh so now that i've been like oh so now that i've been fired, now i've been forced been like oh so now that i've bestanded, now i've been forced been like oh so now that i've bestand downv i've been forced been like oh so now that i've bestand down because an forced been like oh so now that i've bestand down because of forced been like oh so now that i've bestand down because of my ed to stand down because of my illegal activity. can i get £10 million, please? >> tried that. i've, >> well, i've tried that. i've, i've actually i've actually i've actually, i've actually i actually the times actually keep track of the times i been fired a job. i haven't been fired from a job. i'm waiting to be fired from here. it's. yeah the guy. you know what? farage i was thinking about who i really like at this station, like nigel station, and i like nigel farage. farage i should maybe i shouldn't say that. the guys. i think you're allowed to say he's totally. he's totally right. and a lesson needs to be. a lesson needs to be made for this woman for what she did to make sure that they don't do it again and they're not rewarded. that they don't do it again and the�*there)t rewarded. that they don't do it again and the�*there are warded. that they don't do it again and the�*there are stilled. that they don't do it again and the�*there are still people out >> there are still people out there who don't believe this actually they don't actually took place. they don't believe was any believe there was any de—banking. they're de—banking. and they're using the fact that it's the using the fact that it's nigel farage as master saying,
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nigel farage as a master saying, of nigel of of course it's nigel farage. of course it didn't happen. absolute nonsense. >> people >> and we call those people guardian anyway, guardian readers. anyway, finishing this section with a daily quickly daily star. lewis, let's quickly boss through. >> this is big news, >> well, this is the big news, is that there's a woman who's her name is maggie aderin—pocock pocock. that astrology pocock. she says that astrology isn't scientist. she isn't she's a scientist. she says astrology isn't says that astrology isn't valuable, but the truth is, historically, astrology was valuable when the planets were being put into shape after after mars and earth broke off from from saturn . and after venus from saturn. and after venus became a comet and then became in the position and they were and it meant a lot. what month of the year you were born? it depends when the planets were interacting with each other. and there were some months when bad stuff was happening in the sky. you could look it up velikovsky. velikovsky veli kovsky >> literally velikovsky >> literally no idea what any of that meant. anyway, that's the front pages. utterly done. join us in a few minutes for please misconduct. oxford university misconduct. oxford university misconduct and the guardian newspaper misconduct. the holy
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radio. welcome back to headliners. >> i'm leo kyrees and i'm still here with paul cox and louis schaefer and the guardian. now and a black couple are furious about an improper stop and search by the police. on the plus side, it could have been worse. it could have been american police. louis oh, stop and search. >> have we moved on from that? okay. well, this is a fantastic story because it's like it's okay. well, this is a fantastic stonevery use it's like it's okay. well, this is a fantastic stonevery single; like it's okay. well, this is a fantastic stonevery single daye it's okay. well, this is a fantastic stonevery single day int's like every single day in policing everywhere around the world. met officers for world. met officers fired for gross misconduct, finding over stop and of black stop and search of black athletes. the police force, the police up there in maida vale stopped the stopped a guy driving mercedes and two black driving a mercedes and two black people and then they lied about it . they lied. why? they stopped it. they lied. why? they stopped the guy and said, according to according to this ruling, they said they didn't stop the guy
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because they smelled weed in their car because the guy they were two athletes. yes. they get drunk, tested. >> so there was no way they'd be smoking weed. right. i mean, unless i mean, walking through london, quite london, you do smell weed quite a i don't know if it could a lot. i don't know if it could have come from a, you know, a house nearby something that. >> it could been. but at >> it could have been. but at the of the day, he is here's the end of the day, he is here's to is the this is the to this is the this is the police. i mean, i've had some deaungs police. i mean, i've had some dealings with the police and i believe you. have just believe you. i have just recently and they lie . recently and they lie. >> they love conclusive . >> they love conclusive. >> they love conclusive. >> these people were trying to make a case and saying they were stopped for being black, which they might have been. it's probably never probably they were i've never been for being white, been stopped for being white, but they might have been. but they they might have been. well i would say that that's conjecture . conjecture. >> yeah, i'd say it's fashionable conjecture at the moment. i'm not saying that it's impossible. well, i mean, smelling weed in london is not impossible. for a start. did they know they were black? i mean, they were in maida vale. i think that's important to point
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out. some they out. they weren't in some they weren't area well known weren't in an area well known for criminality, say . i for criminality, shall we say. i think difficult to know think it's difficult to know for sure whether those police officers stopped officers knew when they stopped that were two black that car. there were two black people there. they certainly people in there. they certainly knew windows . well, knew from that of windows. well, i'm suggesting that, louis i'm not suggesting that, louis leo, but trying leo, sorry, but trying desperately to keep a straight face. this can. i think this can only be an assumption. however, there were couple things there were a couple of things going because the panel going on here because the panel did acquit officers gross did acquit the officers of gross gross misconduct, but did acquit the officers of gross gross misconduct , but over their gross misconduct, but over their decision to stop the car the athletes are in and to handcuff them. so they were saying the way they went about the arrest wasn't wrong and that was fine. so the assumption is all around whether they lied, which is proven this this is proven that they did. and but even bigger assumption that they were black and i don't know how we can prove that those officers thought that they were black when they pulled them over. >> bring you back to the >> i'll bring you back to the concept looking through concept of looking through a window . window and seeing. >> know, when you pull >> but, you know, when you pull these you do you these people over, do you do you get opportunity? what i'm
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get that opportunity? what i'm trying without trying to do here without desperately without saying sounding is sounding racist in any way, is there there's obviously two there is there's obviously two sides these guys have sides to this. these guys have lost their careers. we've got a policing shortage. do we want policing shortage. so do we want to be chucking away good police officers? argument is, are officers? the argument is, are these mean, these police officers i mean, i worked criminal worked as a criminal intelligence analyst and young black overrepresented as black men are overrepresented as as perpetrators of a lot of crimes. >> so they you know, they do they are overrepresented in stop and search statistics as well . and search statistics as well. but, i mean, if you stop a couple this is a couple with a babyin couple this is a couple with a baby in the car. now, that's not the they're not overrepresented in any statistics. you know, regardless of regard of the way that the but the point is why were they being stopped? >> why should anyone be stopped in this country? they know where people live. if they're looking for them, they'll look for them. just because a guy's driving by what they people are, the cops are allowed to stop people. >> i've only ever pulled >> i've only ever been pulled over three times and all three times have been driving back from yeah, because it's from ben. yeah, because it's late and. late at night and. >> and they've got nothing to do
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and they should mind their own business. were you breaking the law? speeding, they law? if you were speeding, they should be able to pull you over. if you were driving erratically, you be pulled over. but you should be pulled over. but just being random citizen, just for being a random citizen, i'm it. can i'm totally against it. what can a is this? it's the a police state is this? it's the same america. a police state is this? it's the sanand america. a police state is this? it's the sanand this america. a police state is this? it's the sanand this is america. a police state is this? it's the sanand this is thisrica. a police state is this? it's the sanand this is this isa. a police state is this? it's the sanand this is this is the star >> and this is this is the star of lewis's run for mayor yeah. moving on. we've got the meal now and the conflict in israel has university has spread to university campuses uk poll. yeah. has spread to university canisn'tes uk poll. yeah. has spread to university canisn't it uk poll. yeah. has spread to university canisn't itjust uk poll. yeah. has spread to university canisn't it just thek poll. yeah. has spread to university canisn't it just the israel yeah. >> isn't it just the israel hamas war has sparked a wave of uk campus cancel culture. it saysin uk campus cancel culture. it says in the mail universities acts, lecturers and events due to sensitivities around gaza . to sensitivities around gaza. while jewish students are abused and oxford union calls for an intifada until victory. intifada i believe, is an arabic word. i've not heard it or read it before today. used in palestine means to shake off is a war calling. essentially, it's a war calling. essentially, it's a war calling. and oxford university and college union sparked a backlash after its members planned to debate a motion calling mass uprising
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calling for a mass uprising until victory against israel. so i think what we've got here, we've got two things going on. we've got these very, very harrowing events of which two groups of innocent citizens are being attacked . whatever the being attacked. whatever the context is, that's what's happening. however. and so i therefore understand the emotiveness of this, the fact that campuses , particularly like that campuses, particularly like oxford and university students, are falling down on one side to me is a clear indication in that identity politics and the ideology around it has gone way too far. they see every thing, even terrorists, as oppressed, just on the basis of them being brown or or where they're from. yeah no, that's a fair point. >> and i mean, louis, do you think this is cancel culture gone too far or i mean, some of these things they say cambridge is operatic society cancelled upcoming performances of handeps upcoming performances of handel's saul over the supposed striking parallels that had with the ongoing war in gaza . i mean, the ongoing war in gaza. i mean, i don't think what's happening
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in gaza is quite as bad as student opera . student opera. >> is , is it? it's what >> oh, it is, is it? it's what it is, is it's silo mentality is thatis it is, is it's silo mentality is that is that on one side is team world and team world. and team palestine goes into team world. so people have to believe this. so people have to believe this. so if and they've been trained they know that palestine is what team world supports and they know that that team britain supports israel because we believe in ethno states . the but believe in ethno states. the but if you if you if you extrapolate what hamas want to its final conclusion. >> yeah you get death to all jews. >> well you get the death to everybody in the world and the established islamic if you are supporting hamas in any way. >> that's what you're supporting. >> yeah, well, maybe they need a taste of moving on, we've taste of it. moving on, we've got guardian and it got the guardian now and it looks like government will looks like the government will finally be deporting some people, been people, but only if they've been anti—semitic. louis yeah, yeah , yeah. >> i don't believe that . >> i don't believe that. visitors to the uk, visitors to the uk who incite anti—semitism
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will be removed, says minister an and robert jenrick. he's the uk immigration minister. he says that if you incite anti—semitism, you're going to be sent away and already that there that a few cases they're doing this already. but is doing this already. but this is this is the same thing we heard about like the small boats about all the immigration issues. this guy has got no power and nothing is going to be done. so this is this is totally non story, a non story. i don't think this is a non story. this is available on my website. >> this is going to possibly be are you really selling those thatis are you really selling those that is selling these on my website. >> i mean the schaefer we're breaching broadcasting rules by you those not you flogged those this is not the but this the shopping channel but this this this this could this could help seduce some of the more vicious anti—semitic elements of protest . protest. >> shirley paul yeah. >> shirley paul yeah. >> it feels like i'm in i'm in a partial agreement with mr schaefer there. it does feel sound bitey. so it it does it does sound to me as if robert
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jenrick is saying this sort of things. he think people want to hear him say. and i'm not a fan of compelled speech. it applies to all types of speech. so i don't like being told or anybody being told the types of words that should use. however that they should use. however you that. yeah, yeah, you see that. yeah, yeah, exactly. however i do exactly. however for what i do uphold is british values and the peace of british values . so if peace of british values. so if you here and within our you are here and within our societal community, we would like it to be peaceful . so what like it to be peaceful. so what i would suggest is it doesn't matter where coming from , matter where you're coming from, even if it's you. louis yeah, but it should be peaceful in some way so m e way. >> some way. >> why don't you mind your own business my immigration business about my immigration status business about my immigration staiwe've the telegraph now >> we've got the telegraph now in fertility crisis is in japan's fertility crisis is one of the worst in the world, but it's going to get a little extra help letting trans extra help by letting trans people children. yeah, people have children. paul yeah, that's point. people have children. paul yeah, thaai point. people have children. paul yeah, thaa forcing point. people have children. paul yeah, thaa forcing people to be >> a forcing people to be sterilised aid to change gender is unlawful. japan's supreme court rules. let's give a bit of context. so japan's supreme court has ruled that a law obliging transgender people to undergo sterilisation surgery to
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officially change their gender is cruel and unconstitutional . is cruel and unconstitutional. >> however well also seems sort of unnecessary because a lot of transgender, the treatment, the hormones, the puberty blockers and the surgery render you sterile. >> the surgery ? no, he misstated >> the surgery? no, he misstated it. it isn't it isn't castration. it's the surgery that causes castration. so what the japanese are saying is what they used to say was, you want to be a woman, show a little commitment. you know, have the surgery, cut your whatever it is. cut, cut, cut, cut . and then is. cut, cut, cut, cut. and then we'll let you be a woman . but we'll let you be a woman. but but that's so but people were complaining. they're saying, why are you me through are you making me go through this i just want to wear a dress? >> look at some of the other conditions. and just to reiterate to to the everybody out there, i'll just read the words lewis . i didn't write words near lewis. i didn't write them. several conditions them. several other conditions for official recognition of change. gender still remain, including you must be unmarried. you must not have children you must not have any children and you must be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. it's
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gender dysphoria. so it's stipulating that anyone who's transgender must also be diagnosed as having gender dysphoria. >> right? interesting it must not be married, must not have children. they'll stop you. transition >> you might as well be sterilised. >> yeah. okay >> yeah. okay >> congratulations, morphia . >> congratulations, morphia. >> congratulations, morphia. >> congratulations. you've made it halfway . but the best is it halfway. but the best is still to come. we've got coogan dissing monarchists, a rugby player, dissing white people and, oh, we've done that one. see you in a couple of
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radio show. >> welcome back to headliners . >> welcome back to headliners. we've got the telegraph now and steve coogan is becoming an even more cringe worthy leftwing version of alan partridge . version of alan partridge. >> louis no, he is not. yes, he is. no. i'm going to prove to you that he's not. and i'm no great big steve coogan fan. i like steve coogan. he gave me work back in like 2000. >> that's what this is all about. >> in 2001, in a programme called brain candy on baby cow productions. brain candy. look
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it i episodes. i made it up. i did 13 episodes. i made a of money and wife a tonne of money and my wife didn't me that month. didn't divorce me that month. and of royal family are and fans of the royal family are flag waving idiots. quote unquote, says steve coogan . and unquote, says steve coogan. and according to the telegraph, fans of the royal family are flag waving idiots. of the royal family are flag waving idiots . steve coogan has waving idiots. steve coogan has said that's what the telegraph says. but that's not what steve coogan says. what did he see? steve coogan said most people who are into the royal family are flag waving people who i think are kind of idiots because they support a power structure that keeps the foot on the throats of working class people and i'm not really keen on that type of people. that's even worse. no, it isn't. >> it's all sort of he's tried to dress up in this sort of verbose intellectualism . he verbose intellectualism. he sounds like a sixth former. >> i know. i don't think he did because he didn't say. he didn't say that. he said some had kind of maybe he wasn't being super. listen i think the royal family is the worst thing about this country, i country, really. good god, i don't sorry. think don't care. i'm sorry. i think it's the worst thing. and but
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but he didn't say that. >> prince andrew. >> well, prince andrew. >> well, prince andrew. >> well, prince andrew. >> well, believe it or not, wonderful entertainment he brought up on newsnight. he's probably the best thing about the royal family he's most the royal family he's the most interesting . interesting. >> he's a disagree with him on this. i mean, he's trying to represent working class people, which i find difficult to take, really. i don't think he any really. i don't think he in any way longer , and way relates any longer, and perhaps in past, but perhaps he did in the past, but he certainly doesn't now. and the that getting rid of the the idea that getting rid of the royal would just solve royal family would just solve the class problem the whole working class problem is complete have you is a complete misnomer. have you seen it's like seen america? i mean, it's like 300 people, of which 200 300 million people, of which 200 million them on million people of them live on the street. madness . you the street. it's madness. you know, i'm not picking on america because of their american . i'm because of their american. i'm picking on america because steve coogan here is making a point that the royal family got that the royal family have got paul cox who? >> paul cox bupa . paul cox. >> paul cox bupa. paul cox. >> paul cox bupa. paul cox. >> a lot. >> a lot. >> if i could complain. no i don't believe what he's saying. i mean, i'm a royalist and that's not why i don't believe it. i don't. buti don't believe it. i don't. but i don't believe
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that they've got their foot on our throats. yeah perhaps. perhaps there's an argument that the has. but you know, the structure has. but you know, it's not like royals lead it's not like the royals lead the in any way, shape the structure in any way, shape or it's mr starmer or form. it's it's mr starmer andits or form. it's it's mr starmer and it's mr sunak. these people are all the same, just in different coloured ties. >> what have. you >> that's what they have. you convinced, the of convinced, paul at the end of the everything to go the day, everything has to go through those people and those people. stop children and people. stop your children and my from reaching the my children from reaching the typist. the typist . typist. the typist. >> no, i don't. i don't think that's true. i mean, the royal family in this country, they're hardly emblematic of the class system . if anything, upper system. if anything, the upper classes country look classes in this country look down royal family down on the royal family as being poverty . being as being in poverty. >> and the other thing, he is basically in cahoots with team world. he stopped he stopped fighting for britain . we need if fighting for britain. we need if you're going to have a royal family of britain, have somebody who's going to fight for this island and okay, we're moving on. >> on. >> we've got the telegraph now and the bbc seems to have taken the current trend for turning white characters black a bit too far. paul yeah, bbc a plaque celebrating earliest black
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britain removed because she was from cyprus . from cyprus. >> the sign honouring 1800 year old remains of beachy head lady, a female said to be of african origin . and it turns out this origin. and it turns out this expert has said that it no longer is. and this is just yet another example . well, there's a another example. well, there's a couple of examples. example of a couple of examples. example of a couple of examples. example of a couple of things. but the first thing is that an expert that's incorrect. and when we just incorrect. and when are we just going to replace the word expert with with right with blagger with the right opinions? seeing opinions? i mean, we're seeing a picture here. he looks cypriot there. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's not the real thing. >> that's not the real thing. >> that's not the real thing. >> that's a that's the plaque that we said. >> that's not the real. that was the from years the photograph from 2000 years ago . ago. >> yeah, this is the same thing that happened in america, because america is a multinational, multi multicultural country . yeah. and multicultural country. yeah. and i remember every year they used to drag out the one jewish guy who was living in america during the time of the revolution and what role he played, which is i
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think he basically he loaned benjamin franklin £50. just something , something, nothing. something, something, nothing. and i think they had £50 back then. they didn't have. so this is is i think they mean is this is i think they mean well, they want to get everybody involved in the country. they want to say, look, we got black people here. yeah, there were black people. >> it's mean spirited of me. but isn't it just funny at the time this is the sort of thing that's happening all time. happening all the time. >> and this is history. >> and also this is history. >> and also this is history. >> i mean, this isn't just >> i mean, this isn'tjust taking somebody from a from a much you know, drama or, much loved you know, drama or, you know, snow or you know, snow white or something like and making something like that and making them making their them making them their ethnicity. nigerian this is this is completely is something completely different. this is actual history. they're history. and they're they're black washing it. they're saying somebody was black who wasn't black was european. it's black who was european. it's wishful black who was european. it's wis and we it all over the place. >> yeah, well, you see wishful i'd say it's more it's more hateful. >> but you know what? this they said the person was from from from cyprus. and there's lots of cypriots in the country. it was very warm here 2000 years ago, a lot warmer than now. >> i mean, you wouldn't believe
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it the guardian, but it it reading the guardian, but it was and let me just say this. >> the person who was who was fronted in 2016, black and fronted in in 2016, black and british series olusoga, british series david olusoga, actually did a tv show with me. we went radio show. right. >> moving we've got >> okay. moving on. we've got the reporting on a rugby the mail reporting on a rugby race right now. and i've heard people this phrase to people use this phrase to describe relieved to describe me. i'm relieved to learn been learn there must have been talking africa wins all the time. louis yes. >> ken i don't know what i can say, what i'm allowed to say. >> read out that that >> you can read out that that headline. >> you can read out that that heal line.read it. what a. >> i can read it. what a. >> i can read it. what a. >> south africa maybe wouldn't have read it like that. >> i can't. >> i can't. >> what i can't pronounce. >> what a. i can't pronounce. what a. all right, we've done that bit. south african rugby star speaks in afrikaans and appears to make light of bongi . appears to make light of bongi. ijust appears to make light of bongi. i just can't pronounce it. basically basically, you can print the basically can i can i just read the trying to make my best to read the story. yes there's this guy bongi bongi. he's plays for south africa . he he's plays for south africa. he called tim curry, not the guy
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from rocky horror picture show, but tim curry, the england rugby player, a white c u. next tuesday . whatever. the worst, tuesday. whatever. the worst, worst, worst, the worst. one. the worst one. and he's not being published and punished. and the guy actually tim curry went to the reference said hey if this guy calls me that, can i what do i do? and the ref says, don't do anything. you can't do anything. not going anything. we're not going to uphold don't don't let it uphold it. so don't don't let it happen.the uphold it. so don't don't let it happen. the truth, rugby, for those know, those people who don't know, i think a it's a sport. yeah. think it's a it's a sport. yeah. is it a sport? >> it is a sport. it's a rather rough sport as well for i just need to add some context for anybody listening on the radio. >> so lewis reading out an >> so lewis was reading out an afrikaans means afrikaans phrase. that means which rather than and is which side rather than and it is vernacular. the glaswegian . it vernacular. the glaswegian. it just like sounds like just sounds like sounds like he's swearing. >> yeah, i wasn't swearing. you said was okay. said it was okay. >> whatever it is, i would have read it more afrikaans . i would read it more afrikaans. i would have given it an accent at least you just sounded like an east end villain.
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>> i can't. i don't know how to pronounce it any more. i don't speak south africa. african ball , africans, whatever that is . , africans, whatever that is. >> i think that's the least of our worries. >> okay. the guardian now in protests are planned at the next big scientology meetup, othennise known as tom cruise's latest premiere. latest movie premiere. >> paul my goodness. yeah. >> paul oh, my goodness. yeah. do you know what i'll sell it in a minute. protesters planning action uk action outside scientology's uk headquarters during its greatest gathering. so x members say action expected to be the largest in years. we'll send a message that abuse must stop . message that abuse must stop. but scientology says protest is harassment. now, i think this is just a sign of how mental everything is because we have all forgotten how mental scientology is in amongst all the mental array of mental illness that's going on at the moment. we still have a religion invented by a bloke called ron and there are millions and millions and millions of people who believe in this stuff. >> paul, i've got to stop you because i know we've all lost a
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bit of trust in it because of vaccines. but i think science still has a role to play in society. >> yeah. did i say this is scientology? that's the study of science. >> yeah. so it makes sense. >> yeah. so it makes sense. >> and every religion . has it >> and every religion. has it been created one guy? been created by one crazy guy? every every religion? what is what is what is christianity after this one guy and judaism , after this one guy and judaism, there was a guy who went up to a mountain or whatever . the whole mountain or whatever. the whole thing is a mess. the whole thing is a mess. >> do know what we could >> do you know what we could solve the walls now just by solve all the walls now just by agreeing well, agree with agreeing that, well, agree with me. >> i know what's going on. >> i know what's going on. >> you think they're going to >> do you think they're going to get with this, with this get away with this, with this protest? because, i mean, scientologists litigious. >> i they are, >> well, i think they are, because been watching a lot because i've been watching a lot of scientology videos lately. and like people are not and it seems like people are not that with scientology. and it seems like people are not thalcrumblingh scientology. and it seems like people are not thaicrumbling on cientology. and it seems like people are not thaicrumbling on allltology. and it seems like people are not thaicrumbling on all things. it's crumbling on all things. yeah, it's crumbling on all things. and it's like 1 or 2 generations past the founder and they don't have they're not going to be i don't know from what i know, going to be i don't know from whati know, i don't going to be i don't know from what i know, i don't know anything about scientology. but you're an actor. >> you're an american actor. you
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must you must be a scientologist. well i have appeared in some of tom cruise's films. moving on, films. well, moving on, we've got the telegraph now and the bbc indoctrinating children bbc are indoctrinating children with dangerous racist ideology. it's not the worst thing the bbc has done to kids. louis >> yeah, no, this is bbc newsround , which is under fire newsround, which is under fire for teaching, unquote for teaching, quote unquote white kids. and white privilege to kids. and it's a website, so it isn't it's on a website, so it isn't really on tv, but it's the bbc and the bbc has websites and they've got magazines. they've got much going on. and got too much stuff going on. and this who i think i've met this woman who i think i've met because been on free because she's been on free speech which speech nation, which is a fantastic programme on sunday, says she's the leader of a campaign called don't divide us. and her name is a doctor. campaign called don't divide us. and her name is a doctor . alka and her name is a doctor. alka sehgal. and her name is a doctor. alka sehgal . cuthbert and she says sehgal. cuthbert and she says basically that teaching critical race theory that teaching political partisan stuff the bbc it's so unbelievably left wing. it's all about racism and it's all about white people being bad and this is just one more reason why the bbc doesn't need to be
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defunded . it needs to be sold, defunded. it needs to be sold, penod. period. >> did you think we'd buy it? >> did you think we'd buy it? >> well, then give it , >> did you think we'd buy it? >> well, then give it, give it away . away. >> i'll have it. >> i'll have it. >> i'll have it. >> i mean, paul, what do you make of this? i mean, it seems it seems shocking that people are forced to pay for the bbc and then the bbc is turning around and pushing out this dangerous, racist ideology. it's crazy. >> i mean, remember when >> i mean, do you remember when people to there people used to say there were fairies bottom of the fairies at the bottom of the garden? i think the term white privilege has become like the fairies bottom of the fairies at the bottom of the garden. no ever seen garden. yeah. no one's ever seen it. only people that it. and the only people that have are like the kid in sixth sense or some crazy person. it doesn't, my as doesn't, to my mind, as a working class white british bloke, doesn't exist. bloke, it doesn't exist. it's never in favour. now you never been in my favour. now you will on other side will if you're on the other side of argument, say it's of this argument, say it's systemic. obviously worked systemic. it's obviously worked in but you should see in my favour, but you should see the estate. i come from some people underground people still live underground or in trolleys. is in shopping trolleys. there is no whatsoever . no privilege there whatsoever. so the fact that that the bbc, particularly at that level, at that age group, think that it's appropriate to push this
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ideology to me is bonkers . ideology to me is bonkers. >> i you know what you know what? maybe, paul, the fact you haven't come very far is all the way to london is an indication that you are a failure , that you that you are a failure, that you should have you should have come i >>i >> i didn't get any pomp, privilege. >> i've got paul failure. >> i've got paul failure. >> look, i've come tremendously far. >> i can't believe i can't believe lewis schaffer is giving career advice. >> this is ridiculous. anyway, we've got one more section to go with yet another reason to take viagra. no nookie for generation 2 and sex accents. it's not what z and sex accents. it's not what you'd expect. see you in
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welcome back to headliners. we've got the mirror now. and if you can't remember the last time you can't remember the last time you had an erection , viagra you had an erection, viagra might help in two ways. paul taking viagra . taking viagra. >> oh, the positive potato taking viagra may shrink risk of getting alzheimer's disease by
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60. new study shows it's hard to believe leo a breakthrough has been found in the fight against. i can't believe i did that in the fight against alzheimer's disease. with new studies showing that people may reduce their risk by 60% of the illness simply by taking viagra. now this was a study undertaken by mount sinai medical centre in new york. so over to lewis to discredit them . discredit them. >> what about me? what about you discussing it? i have this is one of those stories. i don't understand really. but i'm. understand it, really. but i'm. >> because you haven't had your viagra . viagra. >> you know something? viagra. what does it raises what viagra does is it raises nitrous oxide, which. which which, which. which is good. and it makes blood pumped round your body. >> is that right? it relaxes. >> is that right? it relaxes. >> it relaxes it so that blood is able. that lowers your blood pressure. you can take it as a blood pressure pill. it was originally invented as heart medication. right. and then they found out that what it did is i think they've made a leap. they've leap between they've made a leap between between its stopping one
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particular enzyme, which has a minor effect on alzheimer's and what the actual cause of alzheimer's, which is sugar , alzheimer's, which is sugar, which is sugar. >> so this isn't anything to do with the blood, just the increased blood flow to the brain. >> yeah. so that in and of itself could help it slightly. >> you think it's because you don't want to eat a mars bar because you've got an erection ? because you've got an erection? >> well, the question was, do we eat before sex? and i'm planning on having sex next year, so i'm . on having sex next year, so i'm. going to got the things now with the news that generation 2 want to return to traditional values. >> this is almost heartwarming. and, well, it's not really, but it says us study . it says us study. >> it was a study done at the university college of los angeles. i don't know where that is. and it said that under 20. los angeles. under. yeah, under . los angeles. under. yeah, under. and i lived in i lived in la. for a year. can i tell you what shows was, i was dying anyway . shows i was, i was dying anyway. say that young people who are young would rather watch platonic friendships, normal
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friendships with other guys , friendships with other guys, then sex, then sex scenes or romance. it's called no, it's called less sex. more. no romance, no romance. like romance, no romance. like romance is what gen z's want from tv and basically it's and they don't know what the reason is. but i know the reason. the reason is, is if you talk to a girl and she doesn't like you, she gets the ick. that's a crime in this country, is it not? >> in this generation? and also, they all live with their parents. so nobody wants that coming on the screen. when you've got to sit next to your mum and dad. >> no, no. they don't sit next to them. dad, they got to them. mom and dad, they got their screens. do you think their own screens. do you think they watch their kids, not they watch with their kids, not just like one 14 inch tv in anymore? old are you ? anymore? how old are you? >> can you imagine ? >> can you imagine? >> can you imagine? >> still sat around at home watching something of course. gen 2 want less sex? i mean, has a generation ever been exposed to sex more than generation 2? it's just freely available.
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yeah. all of us used to have to huntin yeah. all of us used to have to hunt in the woods under. under a bush and hope that some dirty old tramp had left something there of interest . but they've there of interest. but they've got access. they've got , they've got access. they've got, they've got access. they've got, they've got access. they've got, they've got access to. that's an interesting insight . they've got interesting insight. they've got access to to, so much sex and everything sexualised, overly sexualised, all the music is if you listen to music from the 80s and 90s, it seems so much more platonic as there are as they're asking for now. it seems so much more innocent. it relied on innuendo and sex is available on literally every device . literally every device. >> it's yeah it's just not watching sex. >> that's not i got news for you. that's not real sex that's spawn that's naked. but that's not actually people today are not actually people today are not having sex. they're not having sex. and they're not having sex. and they're not having children. and we've got wars to fight and we need kids. and is death of love. and this is the death of love. and this is the death of love. and is this is calendar and this is this is my calendar coming up here that is now available for reprint. we're reprinting for next year. reprinting it for next year. it's 2028. it's about the death . it's 2028. it's about the death. yeah, the death of 2024. the
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death message . the death of death message. the death of love. women are horrible. >> i respect the man with the confidence to make a calendar in microsoft paint that impressive list. anyway, we've got the mirror now and we all hate those extra charges at the end of a restaurant bill. but this one takes the biscuit pole. it does a bit. >> it does a bit. parents outrage after restaurant ads, £41 or $50 in this case, fine on bill for bad parent thing. so this is one restaurant which is not named in this whole article, by the way. i keep reading it andits by the way. i keep reading it and it's still not named in there. one restaurant has come under fire for taking things a little far after adding an little too far after adding an extra charge to parents who fail to control their children. so on the you think, okay, the face of it, you think, okay, that's not too bad. you want people control their children people to control their children in a restaurant. it all depends on restaurant. on the type of restaurant. of course, it's family course, if it's a family friendly restaurant, got friendly restaurant, we've got to suck it up. however, you know, think this is probably know, i think this is probably they knife and they probably get a knife and fork. you don't fork. well, yeah, you don't need to in to suck your graph in portsmouth, mate. we didn't have a knife and fork. so i mean, the point point of this the
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point the point of this is the guy just free wheeling and guy is just free wheeling and adding walking adding fines, walking up to people, genuinely walking to people, genuinely walking up to people, genuinely walking up to people don't think people and going, i don't think you've looking after your you've been looking after your kids that's a kids particularly well. that's a $50 | kids particularly well. that's a $50 i mean, this $50 fine. yeah. i mean, this this ridiculous. this seems ridiculous. >> $41 for a $41 fine for i mean, you've got kids, lewis. would you be outraged they would you be outraged if they tacked fine. tacked on this? fine. >> because my kids >> no, because my kids are horrible they were horrible. horrible and they were horrible. but. are very nice. but. but the kids are very nice. they are sake of the show. why kill the show? why kill the show anyway? they're not even my kids. they're the mother's kids. i of them anyway, i lost control of them anyway, the point is, is paul always believes he's like, believes this stuff. he's like, you're most you're most you're the most you're the most naive in entire naive person in the entire world. it's like, no questioning. this is such a non—story . you think it's non—story. you think it's a non—story. you think it's a non—story ? non—story? >> okay. we've got the times now with a survey that definitely did not include the confirmed carnivore. louis schaefer no, it didn't. >> but who knows what the story is. this is the times. are you to going tell me eating meat? i'm telling you, i read all these stories, leo you give the impression that you read them. >> just. >> i just. >> i just. >> i just want you to read them
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out, >> i just want you to read them out well, why >> i just want you to read them outwell, why don't you read them >> well, why don't you read them out? i'm not a presenter. i don't want to present these stories. i want to just be asked my opinion. anyway because presenting meat presenting is work anyway. meat eating points is eating drops to lowest points is 19705. eating drops to lowest points is 1970s. is according 1970s. this is to according the times. that meat eating times. it says that meat eating and blah, they mean and blah blah blah, they mean meat. red meat, meat. they mean like red meat, like is like pork. and beef and lamb is down 26% in a decade. but why this story but the truth is why this story was written. it's not. it's like a non it's another non story nonetheless, experts want more people give up meat to help people to give up meat to help the planet. like to state it as a fact when it's not a fact when it's totally not true . the number one reason true. the number one reason people go to the hospital is because they're on a plant based diet . they're eating vegan because they're on a plant based diet. they're eating vegan and vegetarian style food. 4 to 10% of all car carbon emissions come from the health care industry, while only 2% comes from, um, meat from from grazing and animal production. okay. 2% versus 10. so if you care about the world, you'll stop being a
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diabetic type, whatever fatty liver disease, gout ridden, you'll be healthy by not by eating red meat. >> paul is lewis convinced you in the last there was loads of statistics in there all unverifiable lie . unverifiable lie. >> well we'll check that out nonetheless. google has what% of carbon emissions come from health care and all that stuff. >> i mean the fact that number one admissions to hospital is because of plant based diets. yes you don't see that in the back of the ambulance on them. ambulance shows, you know, ambulance shows, do you know, because we've got another vegan. >> yeah. >> he's down. yeah. >> he's down. yeah. >> people got >> nothing that people have got broken leg. >> how you you got to >> how do you think you got to look like this. how do you think you did how did this. >> is nearly over. so >> the show is nearly over. so let's take another quick look at thursday's front pages. the daily labour daily mail leads with labour tearing apart on israel, tearing itself apart on israel, the fears of the guardian has fears of worsening humanitarian disaster in fuel runs short. the in gaza as fuel runs short. the daily express leads with where is the hope amidst shared grief, the metro has blackmail sex cop had 210 girl victims . the daily
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had 210 girl victims. the daily mirror has bulger killer's parole bid in secret, and the daily star has mystic mugs. and those were your front pages . and those were your front pages. and that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests, paul cox, and some thanks to louis schaffer as well. was also schaffer as well. he was also here tried his hardest. here and tried his hardest. we're again tomorrow at 11 we're back again tomorrow at 11 pm. with josh, nick and kristen. you're watching kristen. if you're watching at 5 am, tuned breakfast.
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