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with the prime minister in egypt with the prime minister confirming officers have pre—positioned themselves to help british nationals escape gaza when the border reopens . gaza when the border reopens. cabinet ministers held an emergency cobra meeting this morning to address the escalating crisis in the middle east. the government's pushing for a pause in fighting east. the government's pushing for a pause infighting, for a pause in fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire to facilitate aid reaching palestinians and that comes as leaders at an eu summit in brussels today agreed to call for humanitarian corridors to get urgently needed aid into gaza. get urgently needed aid into gaza . and the un says the world gaza. and the un says the world is failing to meet the basic human rights of people in gaza . human rights of people in gaza. humanitarian chief martin griffiths is warning that aid isn't getting into the gaza strip quickly enough and that israel's bombardment is getting worse. un aid agencies have begun to reduce their operations in the area because they say they've almost run out of fuel . they've almost run out of fuel. in response, israel refuses to
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let fuel supplies in because they say hamas could use it for military purposes and israel insists it's only targeting the terrorist group in gaza . the terrorist group in gaza. the well , in other news today, the well, in other news today, the prime minister warned that artificial intelligence could threaten humanity with extreme action on a similar scale to global pandemics or even nuclear war. his comments come after touring a london eye hospital, which uses ai touring a london eye hospital, which uses al to diagnose sight problems . rishi which uses al to diagnose sight problems. rishi sunak which uses al to diagnose sight problems . rishi sunak says problems. rishi sunak says humanity could lose control of ai and terrorist groups could use it to spread fear and destruction . he's also announced destruction. he's also announced the formation of the world's first ai safety institute in the uk to explore the risks and share his data with the world. and lastly, remembrance poppies will be plastic free this year and recyclable in the first redesign of the iconic emblem in a generation. it's part of a move by the royal british legion to reduce the production of
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single use plastics from today, volunteers and supermarkets will be selling the historic symbol worn annually to honour the service and sacrifice of britain's armed forces in conflicts over the decades . each conflicts over the decades. each poppy conflicts over the decades. each poppy sold raised is money to support surviving veterans as well as serving personnel at is traditionally worn from the last friday in october , which is friday in october, which is tomorrow . i friday in october, which is tomorrow. i have mine on a little early. you're with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners . >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm >> hello and welcome to headliners . i'm josh howie. headliners. i'm josh howie. >> and joining me tonight to explore friday's newspapers where i'm sure i won't mention israel at all, are two fantastic
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panellists . the future mr and panellists. the future mr and mrs. cressida wetton. >> it's very progressive of, you know there's a lot to unpack there, isn't there? >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> i just think you'd make a wonderful couple. >> hasn't even cut to me. so she's feminist. she's so feminist. >> allowed in the >> i'm not even allowed in the picture. think very picture. i just think it's very progressive like , progressive of you taking like, nick yeah. i'm a feminist. >> yeah. yeah. i'm a feminist. >> yeah. yeah. i'm a feminist. >> i've said i've said and he goes mick. goes by mick. >> very . >> that's very. >> that's very. >> is that what mick and to nick go. anyway, let's move on. >> you both? >> how are you both? >> how are you both? >> guys having a good >> how are you both? >> that's guys having a good >> how are you both? >> that's guysuntilng a good >> how are you both? >> that's guys until aboutood >> how are you both? >> that's guys until about 30s day? that's fine until about 30s sorry, i'm panic you. >> i'm very well my >> i'm very well because my podcast million downloads. >> did you know i you >> just did you know i you mentioned it. >> it's called the weekly sceptic. >> but yeah, just congratulations. >> that is a huge number. >> that is a huge number. >> you work really >> genuinely. you work really hard on it. >> think that's i, i'm huge hard on it. >> of1ink that's i, i'm huge hard on it. >> of1ink tyoung, i'm huge hard on it. >> of1ink tyoung .i'm huge hard on it. >> of1ink tyoung . why huge hard on it. >> of1ink tyoung . why amje fan of toby young. why am i getting this so much already? >> they're jealous guys. people at know ugly jealousy. >> let's have a quick >> right? let's have a quick gander friday's front pages . gander at friday's front pages. is daily mail senior tory mp is the daily mail senior tory mp arrested over rape and drugs telegraph putin welcomes us to
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moscow. guardian israel stages raid into gaza as new phase of war begins the times 200 britons trapped in gaza plead for help express dementia cases to rise. >> but new drug offers hope. and finally, the daily star , grumpy finally, the daily star, grumpy devils and hell to live with. and those were your front pages . and those were your front pages. >> let's kick off with the telegraph . telegraph. >> president putin welcomes hamas to moscow. so wow. >> he's he's forming an axis of terror as he welcomes them . terror as he welcomes them. >> does he call it the axis of terror? >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> the telegraph do. it's in quote marks, but it doesn't i wouldn't put past putin. wouldn't put it past putin. >> yeah. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> mean , clearly very >> i mean, he's clearly very pleased himself in a move pleased with himself in a move condemned by israel, obviously, as an obscene step that gives support to terrorism. russia, russian officials met with the terror group. i wonder how the people who have been pulling down the posters, the people who are very i'm in appreciate hamas
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is separate from palestine . but is separate from palestine. but i wonder how people feel about this. they're not. that's this. no, they're not. that's separate. it's well, there's some connection there anyway. it justi some connection there anyway. it just i mean, this is this is obviously raising concern in the west. no, no. >> i hear you. obviously, people on the left who support the palestinian cause. >> i support the palestinian cause for a for their own for their country. their own country. >> but as soon as they stop trying to kill all the jews. >> but anyway, but the point. >> but anyway, but the point. >> hamas, sorry, hamas . >> hamas, sorry, hamas. >> hamas, sorry, hamas. >> yes. no, because no other palestinians would do that . but palestinians would do that. but the yes, they are the point is that, yes, they are now allying themselves with iran and russia. why why has and with russia. why why has russia done this? >> nick? >> nick? >> well, i don't know, but it's worrying, isn't it? >> because we had all that peace under trump . under trump. >> and i hate to say it, i hate to say it how everybody just uses this to bring their own stuff. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> say it because, you >> i hate to say it because, you know, partisan, but do. >> you look at this. >> you look at this. >> was to >> trump was trying to apparently sort apparently form some sort of trade deal with and ease trade deal with russia and ease relations them then you
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trade deal with russia and ease rela'that them then you trade deal with russia and ease rela'that therr hoax. in you trade deal with russia and ease rela'that therr hoax. you u had that democrat hoax. you know, the russia hoax. so he couldn't then do it. he had to stop they were claiming, stop because they were claiming, oh, trump's in league with putin. russian disinformation and all this kind of stuff. so it's now have biden, it's tragic. we now have biden, we and have a we have two wars and we have a new back to the new axis of evil. back to the george w bush time. so it's very, very worrying . and if that very, very worrying. and if that wasn't duran wasn't bad enough, duran duran won't do. glastonbury the won't do. glastonbury is the other big front page story. well, and i think probably putin had hand in that as well. had his hand in that as well. >> before move on, >> yes. but before we move on, i mean, is a big mean, this is this is a big deal mean, this is this is a big deal. the fact the language even that putin's using with with hamas, it's sort of justified praising their active role . praising their active role. >> and you know, that is essentially a covering up for raping and torturing children . raping and torturing children. but this for israel has got to be a massive blow because israel has had to do just because i know somewhat about the region as well, but because of russia's involvement in syria, israel has had to kind of appease russia somewhat . when it came to somewhat. when it came to ukraine, a lot of people were criticising israel because they weren't coming against weren't coming all out against ukraine for ukraine. and now
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ukraine or for ukraine. and now this is the way that russia is essentially sort of repaid them. but then, of course, that's what you're deal with. you're going to deal with. megalomaniac you just swap. >> it's like in >> it's like kids in the playground we're friends >> it's like kids in the plange're we're friends >> it's like kids in the plange're not we're friends >> it's like kids in the plange're not what re friends >> it's like kids in the plange're not what you'relds now. we're not what you're talking about behind the scenes. >> you're saying putin isn't the stand thought stand up guy we all thought is what? stand up guy we all thought is whil'm shocked . >> i'm getting shocked. >> i'm getting shocked. >> right. us go next >> exactly right. let us go next to the times, nick. >> so the times have 200 britons trapped in gaza plead for help and the uk border force agents have to to have been sent to egypt to evacuate british from evacuate british citizens from gaza. evacuate british citizens from gaza . rishi sunak has said their gaza. rishi sunak has said their pre position there and they're waiting a pause, which is waiting for a pause, which is not same ceasefire but not the same as a ceasefire but it's pause enabled to enable it's a pause enabled to enable this kind humanitarian help this kind of humanitarian help and to enable the brits to get out there. this what we want. >> yeah, and there's picture want. >>theih, and there's picture want. >>theih, an theree's picture want. >>theih, an there of picture want. >>theih, an there of a picture want. >>theih, an there of a child re on the front there of a child with clean arms legs. with very clean arms and legs. >> , now, this is obviously >> now, now, this is obviously we have to get british citizens back. >> i believe humza yousaf mother in law is one of those people, british citizen who lives in gaza. >> it's going to be hard, of
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course , to extricate them with course, to extricate them with that border closed because i believe egypt doesn't want to open it. people are saying why and then egypt has said, well, you take them all if you want them. >> but they obviously are not eager to accept the gazan population into their country because partly they're afraid of some of those number being hamas , right? >> yeah. it wasn't really a question, was it? >> no, no. but you're right. no one else. no one wants to take them. we're supposed to take people suggest should take them. we're supposed to take peopliniuggest should take them. we're supposed to take peoplin britain. should take them. we're supposed to take peoplin britain. butihould take them. we're supposed to take peoplin britain. but egypt.:ake them in britain. but egypt. jordan won't take them. but we're them. we're supposed to take them. so it's it's. it's kind of it's. >> we they do want >> but obviously we they do want them there's a couple them back. but there's a couple more stories. i know we haven't had because had that much time because the papers didn't papers just came in. you didn't want cover this, something want to cover this, something about gras. does about foie gras. but does that make sick? about foie gras. but does that ma especially sick? about foie gras. but does that ma especially sickdoing >> especially like doing stories i and also my mum's i haven't read and also my mum's watching and hates the idea watching and she hates the idea of just the idea of it. >> just. well the pretentious pronunciation of it. >> what for? >> what for? >> no, i mean, ijust think >> what for? >> no, i mean, i just think in >> no, i mean, ijust think in this day and age. come on. is it really necessary? why are we
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still. because it's delicious . still. because it's delicious. oh, goodness me. i mean, we're in the age of luxury beliefs. do we still have to engage in this to ? yes. i mean, you to feel luxury? yes. i mean, you can get everything you need from lidl. just have salmon . and lidl. just have some salmon. and i don't it's not for me . i don't know. it's not for me. >> and the is. no, i just >> and the story is. no, i just want for want to get clear for the viewer, story whole viewer, the story is whole imports gras, viewer, the story is whole imporin gras, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. gras, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. so gras, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. so you're gras, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. so you're with|ras, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. so you're with 9 s, viewer, the story is whole imporin10. so you're with 9 in say 9 in 10. so you're with 9 in 10 cowards who . 10 cowards who. >> but also, is there such a thing as humane foie gras? like you're not forcing these ducks to overeat? >> i'm going to make the case for why i'd like to. i don't have enough knowledge . i read have enough knowledge. i read there was a long, long article about is about why foie gras actually is okay from someone who is involved in making it. but it was too long and boring and i didn't but there is a didn't read it. but there is a humane you're humane for case it. if you're prepared internet. prepared to scour the internet. but i got bored because i'm never going eat it anyway. never to going eat it anyway. >> and >> no, really, fair enough. and then actually then finally, there is actually a serious which is a pretty serious story which is going of we a pretty serious story which is goingabout of we a pretty serious story which is goingabout dementiaf we a pretty serious story which is going about dementia cases iie a pretty serious story which is goingabout dementia cases to have about dementia cases to double by 2040, and this is double by 2040, and this is double the rate that they also thought it was already going to happen. this is arguably this is
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going to have the most sort of direct impact on of our direct impact on all of our lives right? lives in the uk, right? >> but apparently , >> well, it is, but apparently, according to the drugs companies mentioned in article, this mentioned in this article, this is going a bit. you know who. is me going a bit. you know who. yeah they're telling us tragically , i do know who you mean. >> i hate that this show has reached that stage. >> obviously, women are horrible. no point the horrible. no the point is. the point is that they're telling us on the one hand, it's going to be really bad. they're also be really bad. and they're also saying, a for saying, but we've got a drug for that. okay that. so. oh, i see. okay apparently that's going to make it it it not as bad because it is lifestyle choices . lifestyle choices. >> it seems like a beast. >> it seems like a beast. >> be one the >> it seems like a beast. >> factors. be one the >> it seems like a beast. >> factors. yeah one the >> it seems like a beast. >> factors. yeah to e the >> it seems like a beast. >> factors. yeah to do the >> it seems like a beast. >> factors. yeah to do with major factors. yeah to do with this getting old as well. major factors. yeah to do with thistheting old as well. major factors. yeah to do with thisthe choiced as well. major factors. yeah to do with thisthe choice to s well. major factors. yeah to do with thisthe choice to getzll. major factors. yeah to do with thisthe choice to get old. no, >> the choice to get old. no, it's. yeah. they're going say it's. yeah. they're going to say diet. they're diet. they're going to they're going to demonise we can all going to demonise me. we can all seei know when, you know >> i know but when, but you know the nhs, the of the cost of the nhs, the cost of social is going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe is going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe a is going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe a huge is going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe a huge chunk is going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe a huge chunk of going the cost of the nhs, the cost of sobe a huge chunk of ourng to be a huge chunk of our population to be population which are going to be massively this. population which are going to be ma well,( this. population which are going to be ma well, yeah this. population which are going to be ma well, yeah . this. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> no, not finally, actually, let's go daily mail . let's go to the daily mail. >> consider a senior tory mp arrested rape and drugs. arrested over rape and drugs. it's hard to tell which one, isn't it? >> not really, because he's come
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fonnard and said it, that he's he's on his christmas blunt has been arrested . been arrested. >> i don't know how much we can say about this. >> he's a good friend of owen jones. >> right. ongoing ing . i'll just >> right. ongoing ing. i'll just read you. >> he just blocked me today . >> he just blocked me today. >> he just blocked me today. >> and that was is that just completely random or is there some there? completely random or is there sonwell, there? completely random or is there sonwell, no. there? >> well, no. >> well, no. >> you just out a tweet >> you just put out a tweet saying amazing ally saying how he's an amazing ally and stuff. saying how he's an amazing ally ancoh, stuff. saying how he's an amazing ally ancoh, but stuff. saying how he's an amazing ally ancoh, but crispin stuff. saying how he's an amazing ally ancoh, but crispin blunt. saying how he's an amazing ally ancoh, but crispin blunt or owen jones? >> owen jones put it about crispin blunt. >> that >> but anyway, but not that crispin anything . crispin blunt has done anything. that's crispin blunt has done anything. thathatis crispin blunt has done anything. thathat is confusing alliance. crispin blunt has done anything. th.confused. confusing alliance. crispin blunt has done anything. th. well, sed. confusing alliance. crispin blunt has done anything. th. well, i'veconfusing alliance. crispin blunt has done anything. th. well, i've read sing alliance. crispin blunt has done anything. th. well, i've read sing read nce. >> well, i've read i've read crispin comment this. crispin blunt's comment on this. he says it's been reported, blah, we've blah, blah, blah. what we've just i've now been just said, i've now been interviewed connection interviewed twice in connection with . isn't the with this insider. isn't the first time three weeks ago when i reported my concern i initially reported my concern over extortion . oh, so he is over extortion. oh, so he is telling us there's more to it and not going to say and he's not going to say any more done more until the police have done their enquiries . their enquiries. >> he's full matrix >> yeah, he's gone. full matrix attack on it. he's saying, look, this completely false this is this is completely false and out in of and he's getting out in front of it. basically he's it. he has basically he's got out of said this is out in front of it said this is nonsense and perfectly happy to say nonsense.
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nonsense and perfectly happy to say problem nonsense. nonsense and perfectly happy to say problem is, nonsense. nonsense and perfectly happy to say problem is, obviously and the problem is, obviously we've had many false we've had so many false accusations lots accusations and i know that lots of are not of actual rapes are not convicted. but there's also the problem. false problem. we've had so many false accusations. see these accusations. if you do see these things of go, things and you sort of go, i don't more because don't know any more because it's been even and then been devalued and even and then we have strange that we have this strange thing that in you can in kevin spacey's case, you can just destroy just accuse someone and destroy their anyway . so the their career anyway. so at the same accusations same time, the accusations have devalued have devalued because we have too many but then again, many false ones. but then again, they value many false ones. but then again, they we value many false ones. but then again, they we even value many false ones. but then again, they we even have|lue many false ones. but then again, they we even have due that we don't even have due process in effect, process anymore, in effect, because you cancel people just on accusation . on the accusation. >> yeah, fantastic point. and >> yeah, no fantastic point. and cannot be topped. finally, let's go to the daily star. >> yeah, is important . >> nick yeah, this is important. grumpy and hell to live grumpy devils and hell to live with. now, this is about people being demonically possessed. you're english, you're you're not just english, you're demonically possessed. it's about , you know, you demonically possessed. it's about, you know, you think you're miserable . no, you're grumpy and miserable. no, no, demonically you're grumpy and miserable. no, no, nandmically you're grumpy and miserable. no, no, nand)nic.'friend , the possessed. and my friend, the reverend franklin, reverend doctor jamie franklin, who's a vicar, has written a red hot actually just a whole hot actually just read a whole book told me it is book on this and told me it is real. so i believe him blindly. demonic real. what demonic possession is real. what worried me a little bit was that one is anxiety . one of the symptoms is anxiety. i'm like, am demonically i'm like, am i demonically possessed ? did occur to me. possessed? did occur to me.
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depression anxiety, drug or alcohol addiction. josh anything, anything like that. it says so, you know, you think you might be basically you might just be basically you might just be basically you might exorcist rather might need an exorcist rather than some very strong painkillers. >> if your partner is just being a bit of a nightmare, a just a bit of a nightmare, it's i'm going call the church. >> it's a good way to think about it. i would have thought this thing to this was a christian thing to do. other person's do. assume the other person's got and maybe got something going on and maybe you just absolving >> or is this just absolving responsibility the demons? >> or is this just absolving res|yeah)ility the demons? >> or is this just absolving res|yeah ,lity the demons? >> or is this just absolving res|yeah , because the demons? >> or is this just absolving res|yeah , because they'renons? >> or is this just absolving res|yeah , because they're atns? >> yeah, because they're at fault here. >> yes . up to fault here. >> yes. up to you to fault here. >> yes . up to you to get the >> yes. up to you to get the demon out. maybe >> let's go to the break on that one. right. that's the front pages all expertly assessed . pages all expertly assessed. >> join in a few moments for >> join us in a few moments for post plagiarism and post awards, mp plagiarism and why safe to go online. >> see you there
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radio. >> welcome back to headliners. i'm josh howie cresta doesn't have a podcast and nicks has hit a million downloads. cresta, let's kick off with friday's mail and it's not just posters,
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but the social fabric that's been ripped apart met. >> police say no offences have been committed after viewing footage showing palestine supporters tearing down posters of israeli women and children kidnapped by hamas . so this has kidnapped by hamas. so this has been happening quite a lot, hasn't it, in london, we've seen a lot of social media. people are now getting their phones out and filming pro palestine, people taking down the posters that people or jewish that jewish people or jewish supporters usually supporters have put up, usually with photograph . and they all with a photograph. and they all follow of a red follow this format of a red strip the top of the bottom . strip at the top of the bottom. and these posters and so, you know, these posters and just taking and people are just taking them down and their posters are have kidnapped and each one kidnapped children and each one has specific maybe a person or has a specific maybe a person or a few people from a family see. and everybody and it's to remind everybody these people be brought these people need to be brought home. so it seems, you know , home. so it seems, you know, it's the point is they're civilians. they're innocent civilians. they're innocent civilians. they keep being civilians. and they keep being taken down. and you would think that given that we live in a world where isabel vaughn spruce, the woman who's anti sorry, pro—life , recently was sorry, pro—life, recently was arrested for praying in her head
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. you'd think arrested for praying in her head .you'd think it arrested for praying in her head . you'd think it would be .you'd think it would be reasonable to assume that this was kind of more serious than that. and yet the met have said no offence has been no, no offence has been committed . committed. >> yeah well and that's but that nick i believe is on this one specific one in leicester square actually friend mine, actually a friend of mine, richard farah, he's the one who actually them actually filmed them and confronted , although i confronted them, although what i don't they've noticed don't believe they've noticed and who's translated and someone has who's translated it from urdu is one of the one of the men says no one will be spared, which sounds somewhat ominous. the other ominous. and the other interesting thing i'm interesting thing is, and i'm sure know from sure you both know this from watching particular watching this in this particular clip, very well do clip, they seem very well to do modern dress . there's no they're modern dress. there's no they're not sort of islamic fundamentalists seemingly on front. they seem like some young people out in central london. >> yeah, they're just sort of pro—palestine. so the young people, you say. yeah. as people, as you say. yeah. and as cressida just seen cressida says, we've just seen isabel fruits again . a question isabel fruits again. a question by praying for by police. are you praying for the lives the unborn? they the lives of the unborn? they ask the you know, she ask the you know, because she stood wrong part, stood in the wrong part, praying. the woman praying. and we saw the woman who woman in her 70s was
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who was the woman in her 70s was visited police taking visited by the police for taking a gender critical a photo of a gender critical sticker. so in light of things a photo of a gender critical sticithat,) in light of things a photo of a gender critical sticithat, we'rejht of things a photo of a gender critical sticithat, we're boundhings a photo of a gender critical sticithat, we're bound t0|gs a photo of a gender critical sticithat, we're bound to ask like that, we're bound to ask about the two justice about the two tier justice system, such system, which has become such a cliche talk but cliche to even talk about. but the is, are the question is, what are we going to do it's not a crime? going to do if it's not a crime? if crime, comes going to do if it's not a crime? if to crime, comes going to do if it's not a crime? if to whatime, comes going to do if it's not a crime? if to what kemi comes going to do if it's not a crime? if to what kemi badenoch is down to what kemi badenoch is talking here. she talking about here. and she talks unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the social unwritten rule talking about here. and she talk the social contracten rule talking about here. and she talk the social contract of rule talking about here. and she talk the social contract of our. and the social contract of our country. but this is the problem. when you treat countries as just economies and you just we can just have you just say, we can just have anyone country they anyone in this country they don't integrate into don't need to integrate into our values, this values, then of course this is going things values, then of course this is goin unwritten things values, then of course this is goin unwritten rules things values, then of course this is goin unwritten rules social s like unwritten rules and social contracts organically contracts evolve organically over hundreds of years. so of course we're going these course we're going to have these kind this is kind of problems. and this is the failure the famous failure of multiculturalism suella multiculturalism that suella braverman spoken about. >> there's a there's the most shocking one that i've seen is one these posters these one of these posters of these two toddlers, and they've had old hitler moustaches drawn on them. >> now, i believe the met police are dealing with that one as a hate crime. and there's also talk of people who are here on visas as like tourist visas or student visas or whatever. if they're carrying out this kind of behaviour or showing
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themselves to pro hamas themselves to be pro hamas should be kicked out. i mean, would this, would you agree with this, crystal would you agree with this, cry:but it sounds like yes , i >> but it sounds like yes, i love that you had to ask as well. brilliant. just checking . well. brilliant. just checking. i don't know. i wonder whether it's such a scary prospect for the police to try and contain this sort of thing. sure isabel vaughn, spruce is one person, but this and also, sometimes i wonder whether the people taking down the posters, whether i wonder how much i don't mean to be patronising, but i wonder how much they know and whether it was, you know , when they're very was, you know, when they're very young people. >> question . on >> that's a great question. on to i'd just like to to both of you. i'd just like to ask, do you think they're ask, why do you think they're doing you doing this? i mean, you can still a . doing this? i mean, you can still a. human doing this? i mean, you can still a . human being and still be a. human being and that's the crazy thing here. there's an argument that it could be because they don't want to with this, these to be faced with this, these innocent people, you know, who are part of what they support, have carried out. >> nick yeah. i've seen some people probably have, people who are probably have, let's say, are immigrants
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let's say, who are immigrants doing i've also seen doing it, but i've also seen some just clearly some people who are just clearly kind of middle class students doing their case, doing it. and in their case, they're brainwashed the they're just brainwashed by the education system. so they're either radically either they're either radically anti—israel brainwashed anti—israel or their brainwashed into amounts to the into being. so it amounts to the same so that's why same thing. so that's why they're so they've they're doing it. so they've lost their humanity, we've lost their humanity, as we've seen in so many of these examples. seen in so many of these exa you es. seen in so many of these exayou know , fair game. as, you know, fair game. >> i mean, the incredible as, you know, fair game. >> i |that|, the incredible as, you know, fair game. >> i |that they the incredible as, you know, fair game. >> i |that they thinks incredible thing that they think that they're good people. >> morally >> there was massively morally compromised. one great compromised. there was one great person was person in the video, which was the shut up, you the woman who said, shut up, you w. was the absolute w. and she was like the absolute hero of the video in hand. >> yeah yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> this country was >> that's what this country was built >> that's what this country was bui yeah. no, absolutely. moving >> yeah. no, absolutely. moving on to the independent nick, on to the independent and nick, one boring on to the independent and nick, one that boring on to the independent and nick, one that actually boring stories that actually has a massive on us all. massive impact on us all. >> oh yeah, it's massive. it's the online safety act becomes law in the uk. now, you'll have heard safety bill heard of the online safety bill we've about it we've all been talking about it loads and ofcom are going to regulate so you know, say no regulate it. so you know, say no more. the independent here more. and the independent here is of hinting that it's a is sort of hinting that it's a good which is how know good thing, which is how we know it's and they're saying it's bad. and they're saying it's bad. and they're saying it's keeping children safe online. object online. now, who could object to keeping children safe? but of course, online course, what the online safety bill us all into
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bill will do is turn us all into children, because we be bill will do is turn us all into childt0|, because we be bill will do is turn us all into childto see cause we be bill will do is turn us all into childto see things we be bill will do is turn us all into childto see things that be bill will do is turn us all into childto see things that we. be able to see things that we. thanks. i thought of that just before that's kind of before i came on. that's kind of my so the point is we won't my job. so the point is we won't be able to things like be able to see things like terrorism formerly terrorism on formerly twitter, which such a key part which has been such a key part of recent conflict, we've of this recent conflict, we've been see the reality of been able to see the reality of hamas, for example, be hamas, for example, that will be illegal. things like or illegal. and then things like or revenge. you can get on revenge. okay you can get on board with that. but terrorism , board with that. but terrorism, you'll this you'll lose as well. so this problem important problem is you lose important things see. and why problem is you lose important thingup see. and why problem is you lose important thingup to see. and why problem is you lose important thingup to ofcom? see. and why problem is you lose important thingup to ofcom? why and why problem is you lose important thingup to ofcom? why anit upy is it up to ofcom? why is it up to government and so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this vernment and so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this billment and so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this bill at nt and so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this bill at all.nd so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this bill at all. i:i so don't is it up to ofcom? why is it up to this bill at all. i think don't trust this bill at all. i think it'll be a big net negative . it'll be a big net negative. >> well, as nick says, it's been it'll be a big net negative. >1longll, as nick says, it's been it'll be a big net negative. >1long time nick says, it's been it'll be a big net negative. >1long time coming. s, it's been it'll be a big net negative. >1 long time coming. cressida en a long time coming. cressida a lot criticism the way lot of criticism along the way in terms of impact on free in terms of the impact on free speech. have they actually done anything to deal with any of these who ofcom no, the these issues? who ofcom no, the government as they were putting it through. >> i don't know. but what >> oh, i don't know. but what i do is that whatsapp up are do know is that whatsapp up are if whatsapp are threatening to leave the uk over this well done whatsapp. the great thing about that everybody loves whatsapp that is everybody loves whatsapp and feel like a lot and that will i feel like a lot of people may not be thinking about this and when whatsapp say
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we're we whatsapp, we're off, we need whatsapp, people notice , people are going to notice, aren't else am i aren't they? yeah. how else am i to going receive dog pictures? yeah yeah. >> we've i don't know if you've seen where from seen those videos where from people canada it suddenly people in canada and it suddenly says available in says this is not available in your is what your country and this is what we're have with the we're going to have with the online safety bill america. online safety bill in america. they'll probably have a higher level they'll probably have a higher leve much damage biden does. and how much damage biden does. and we'll be we'll be like trying to speak people america speak to people in america to find because find out what's happened because it available in it will say not available in your country. i think it's going to whatever. >> certain parts whatever. >>the certain parts whatever. >>the protecting tain parts whatever. >>the protecting children; whatever. >> the protecting children . of the bill protecting children. an limits that you can an age limits that you can definitely get behind. but yes, the argument is that, of course, the argument is that, of course, the criticism is that there's a massive and massive overreach. and of course, also going to course, this is also going to make incredibly powerful. make ofcom incredibly powerful. >> more powerful . i'm >> yeah, even more powerful. i'm not i'm not happy every time i see climate activists see these climate activists getting hysterical and getting really hysterical and crying, would like to say crying, i would just like to say balance be power. >> we love ofcom and welcome our new overlords . new ofcom overlords. >> exactly. friday's guardian ex cressida, who stole from wikipedia and the guardian for their book. and how is it in any way readable labour's rachel a
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joke about the guardian and wikipedia not being readable . wikipedia not being readable. it's very good. thank you. oh, that's just you didn't acknowledge but that's right. >> i laughing >> i was laughing inside. >> i was laughing inside. >> i was laughing inside. >> i still thinking >> i was still thinking about ofcom whether the ofcom and whether i said the right we love ofcom. right thing. we love ofcom. carry on. >> weren't about >> you weren't thinking about your >> you weren't thinking about you labour's rachel reeves denies >> labour's rachel reeves denies the apparent plagiarism over her new book. >> oh, rachel , this is so embarrassing. >> naughty, naughty. rachel >> naughty, naughty. rachel >> in this day and age of ai, you would have thought that she would understand if you would understand that if you just of stuff in from just put chunks of stuff in from elsewhere, to be elsewhere, it's not going to be long it's noticed. and it long before it's noticed. and it hasn't been long. so she's written this book, the women who made modern economics and in this book, an examination by the ft found more than 20 examples of passages from other sources that appear to have been lifted wholesale reworked minor wholesale or reworked with minor changes without acknowledgement. and , who are and her publisher, who are called basic books, which is just great, it? why not? just great, isn't it? why not? they they're kind of saying, ah, yeah, but nobody does all the references. >> well, this is it. i mean, nick, do you really want a future chancellor who doesn't
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have that attention to detail ? have that attention to detail? >> yeah. one would think the job requires an eye for detail. and the feet has pointed that the feet has pointed out that themes failure the feet has pointed out that thnproperly failure the feet has pointed out that thnproperly acknowledge failure the feet has pointed out that thnproperly acknowledge the.ure the feet has pointed out that thnproperly acknowledge the work to properly acknowledge the work of economists as jesus of female economists as jesus pred of female economists as jesus ripped a of people. so ripped off a load of people. so that's and as you say, that's fans. and as you say, they're basic books. they're called basic books. and rachel's a basic rachel's been a bit of a basic book she needs book writer. so it's she needs to sack her ghost—writer there's some funny examples. she just took a sentence verbatim about tony blair and gordon brown and how they'd , you know, brought tony blair and gordon brown and how people you know, brought tony blair and gordon brown and how people to u know, brought tony blair and gordon brown and how people to u krheartrought tony blair and gordon brown and how people to u krheart of|ght poor people to the heart of whitehall. she just adds in anne—claire it anne—claire short, basically it just different , just anne—claire short, basically it just just different , just anne—claire short, basically it just just sprinkling just anne—claire short, basically it just just sprinkling women adding, just sprinkling women throughout the book with like cut and paste. >> to be fair, writing a book is tough. >> long. yeah, it's boring. >> it's long. yeah, it's boring. it's total pain. >> next in the >> compromise. next in the telegraph. will this appease anyone or everyone? nick yes, this is a very serious story. >> this is not all criminals will attend will be forced to attend sentencing propaganda will be forced to attend se court ng propaganda will be forced to attend se court .g propaganda will be forced to attend se court. so propaganda will be forced to attend se court. so it's propaganda will be forced to attend se court . so it's going)paganda will be forced to attend se court . so it's going to ganda will be forced to attend se court . so it's going to belda will be forced to attend se court . so it's going to be up in court. so it's going to be up to the judges discretion whether or not convicted criminals come to the judges discretion whether or courtonvicted criminals come to the judges discretion whether or court foricted criminals come to the judges discretion whether or court for sentencing. ils come to the judges discretion whether or court for sentencing. ils c(soe to court for sentencing. and so that's the concern before was that's the concern before was that automatic . and now that it was automatic. and now it's going to depend on the case. they're worried that
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people to exploit people will be able to exploit it and say, well, i've not been to never been automatic. the problem were >> the problem is they were thinking making thinking about making it. >> yeah. >> yeah, sorry. correct. yeah. yeah. make yeah. and this is going to make it which it the judges discretion, which seems to me. not an seems sensible to me. not an expert, as we've just established, it established, but it seems it seems sensible to leave seems pretty sensible to leave it to the judge, depending on it up to the judge, depending on the so surprised at you. >> i am so surprised at you. why? | >> i am so surprised at you. why? i thought you would say that a soft lib. not that was a soft lib. not essence. i'm >> maybe it is because it's in the telegraph . i assumed it was the telegraph. i assumed it was fine. >> you know , i've never watched . >> you know, i've never watched. >> you know, i've never watched. >> why would you but these kind of like true crime you can there are court scenes that you can see in america . they they are court scenes that you can see ai america . they they are court scenes that you can see a muzzlea . they they are court scenes that you can see a muzzle on they they are court scenes that you can see a muzzle on people they are court scenes that you can see a muzzle on people thatey are court scenes that you can see a muzzle on people that they put a muzzle on people that they really think are to going cause trouble. and obviously, we're heanng trouble. and obviously, we're hearing about muzzles a with hearing about muzzles a lot with dogs moment. same dogs at the moment. same, same thing . and it's possible i'm not thing. and it's possible i'm not the kind of implying here it's not possible . not possible. >> some the people certainly >> some of the people certainly mentioned children mentioned killers of children and that i have no and whatnot that i have no problem them being problem with them being in a muzzle also, muzzle and whatnot. also, how does decide and who's does the judge decide and who's what they mean by propaganda what do they mean by propaganda that someone's going to use it
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for propaganda? >> this is time crest >> this is time for a crest buddhism, gets buddhism, he says. what gets measured gets done, and what will is they'll be will happen is they'll be there'll be a trend for if you misbehave in this way, you don't have into court and have to get to go into court and then all doing yeah. >> and also , what's the >> and also, what's the incentive here? someone's got like life sentences. like multiple life sentences. they're they they're saying here if they don't go to be in the don't go to court to be in the sentencing, they're going to get an extra two years. well, what difference that to make difference is that going to make for position? for someone in that position? yeah so maybe i misunderstood. >> thought can still yeah so maybe i misunderstood. >:theyiought can still yeah so maybe i misunderstood. >:theyioughtthat can still yeah so maybe i misunderstood. >:theyioughtthat they're an still if they think that they're going to up. to brag about not turning up, they them they can still force them to turn up. >> force f“ f" >> they can force them to turn up. well, they can say you're going an two years, up. well, they can say you're goirwhat an two years, up. well, they can say you're goirwhat difference two years, up. well, they can say you're goirwhat difference ithat'ears, but what difference is that going to someone who is? going to make to someone who is? and the point is, serving multiple and the point is, serving multiplnjudge the >> the judge assesses the criminal they've >> the judge assesses the criminal thus they've >> the judge assesses the criminal thus far they've >> the judge assesses the criminal thus far in they've >> the judge assesses the criminal thus far in thethey've >> the judge assesses the criminal thus far in the trial. �*e behaved thus far in the trial. and if they oh, you're behaved thus far in the trial. and ifto ey oh, you're behaved thus far in the trial. and ifto make oh, you're behaved thus far in the trial. and ifto make it oh, you're behaved thus far in the trial. and ifto make it worseou're behaved thus far in the trial. and ifto make it worseou'rthe going to make it worse for the victim's family, maybe you're. >> thought . but >> that's what i thought. but the fact you said it was soft liberal stuff has made me worried. out . worried. and i'm checking out. i'll get back to you later with. >> interesting. i'll get back to you later with. >> most eresting. i'll get back to you later with. >> most conservative take >> the most conservative take either conservative either sort of out conservative thing is that i think i misunderstood. i think i misunderstood. i think i misunderstood it right . misunderstood it right. >> finally, in this section,
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it's express and new it's friday's express and new sushl it's friday's express and new sushi. rishi sushi is going to help us all get to sleep better. cressida sunak to reassure pubuc cressida sunak to reassure public over ai. >> as experts warn of existential threat . this is it's existential threat. this is it's more i yeah we love a bit of an ai story here this is looking pretty bleak . a new paper pretty bleak. a new paper published by the government office for science to accompany the speech that he's going to give there is insufficient give says there is insufficient evidence rule out a threat to evidence to rule out a threat to humanity from al. and he acknowledges this. basically, they're saying, given the significant uncertainty , we significant uncertainty, we there's insufficient evidence to rule out that highly capable future frontier ai systems that they could pose an existential threat. >> don't talk , don't talk that >> don't talk, don't talk that that crazy, sexy talk to me . that crazy, sexy talk to me. >> wow. rachel, do you feel well ? >> well, i don't, because they're claiming that, look, it's quite low risk that the technology would outpace mitigations, gain control over critical systems and be able to avoid being switched off. so
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their tactic is that they're going unplug and they going to unplug it and they think withstand think it can't withstand the unplugging. . unplugging. i'm sceptical. they're basically ofcom they're basically saying ofcom will and will stop the terminator and i just believe the just don't believe the government has that ability. >> ofcom , we're at the >> we love ofcom, we're at the halfway fun and halfway point. it's fun and frolic straight the slope frolic straight down the slope till . coming up, we have till bedtime. coming up, we have the wars section with the culture wars section with bad , british black bad black history, british black history , bad female students, history, bad female students, and where do people who are gay work ? see
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news radio show. >> welcome back to headliners and straight into friday's independent nick why do none of these people pick lenny henry i was thinking about making a similar joke, was thinking about making a similarjoke, but i thought it's similar joke, but i thought it's too tasteless and you've already made two out one, it's made it two out of one, so it's half of britain's can't name a single british historical figure. >> research shows. it's >> research shows. and it's crazy. i mean, there's anne boleyn . there's anyone get that boleyn. there's anyone get that reference anne boleyn was played by. yeah never mind. yeah. very good viewers at home will be
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digging that. anyway, point digging that. anyway, the point is, 75% of british adults surveyed they didn't know surveyed said they didn't know very of anything the very much of anything about the subject and 53% subject matter at all. and 53% could any black british could not name any black british historical figures . and we're historical figures. and we're all supposed to hate ourselves and terrible. but it's also and feel terrible. but it's also blackbeard blackbeard yeah , blackbeard. blackbeard yeah, good point. josh rather you than me. look, there's loads of people . there's a lot of people. there's a lot of equiano. i'm sure you've read his book. i have. there's mary seacole you name of seacole. you can name lots of people, there's people, but. diana. but there's loads point loads of people. but the point is, why do have to feel so is, why do we have to feel so guilty? that guilty? there just weren't that many the many black people in the country. by by its nature, country. so by by its nature, there's be that there's not going to be that many but there's not going to be that many kind but there's not going to be that many kind of but there's not going to be that many kind of articles but there's not going to be that many kind of articles in but there's not going to be that many kind of articles in the these kind of articles in the independent supposed independent were all supposed to feel . you we feel terrible. and, you know, we people underestimated the amount of involved in slavery in of people involved in slavery in the trade. but we the british slave trade. but we also ended slavery. that no also ended slavery. that gets no mention just it's mention. so i just think it's another sort well, i think another sort of, well, i think there's a hand—wringing. >> does few points. >> it does raise a few points. first all, it's interesting >> it does raise a few points. first this it's interesting >> it does raise a few points. first this articleeresting >> it does raise a few points. first this articleerestidon't how in this article they don't actually figures. secondly historical figures. secondly i think people are just rubbish at history in general. i reckon if you just ask most people on the street for any historical figures they'd like figures, they'd be like
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shakespeare. yeah . shakespeare. yeah, yeah. >> winston churchill? >> who is winston churchill? >> who is winston churchill? >> well, no, if you ask >> cromwell well, no, if you ask them for from 15th them for someone from the 15th century, 14th century, whatever, them for someone from the 15th cthink', 14th century, whatever, them for someone from the 15th c think people entury, whatever, them for someone from the 15th cthink people would whatever, them for someone from the 15th cthink people would struggler, i think people would struggle with i think people would struggle witiand , and i think the main >> and, and i think the main factor is that they're asking sort of adults, i assume children in did you wink at me, by the way? >> no, no . i was it was my it >> no, no. i was it was my it was my contact lens . was my contact lens. >> look like you winked at me for a second. >> no, no, i'm not. >> no, no, i'm not. >> but the question, if you >> but the main question, if you ask who are doing lot ask our kids who are doing a lot of genuine . you winked at me of genuine. you winked at me about don't out me just like this. >> go for it. >> go for it. >> josh, you've attended. i was engaged to cressida before. i was sticking that. was sticking with that. >> reading to the >> i was just reading to the public. what you don't. >> is, our >> anyway, the point is, our children certainly are learning. i know. because every year dunng i know. because every year during black history month, they come back with doing the homework. so i wonder if it's, you know, asking adults they may not stuff , but i think not know this stuff, but i think our are. that's our children are. and that's surely the whole point of educating about this educating our kids about this stuff, i guess. >> so don't think the tone of >> so i don't think the tone of this to encourage this is going to encourage any
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learning ? it's all learning either. is it? it's all stick and no carrot . stick and no carrot. >> yes. heading to the telegraph now. and people just keep now. and white people just keep getting stupider and stupider. cressida white students, a minority of applicants at oxbridge for the first time. >> so that's progress , isn't it? >> so that's progress, isn't it? i guess . i don't know. is it? i guess. i don't know. is it? i think it might be because it might show that all the outreach programmes are making headway. i don't it showed for the don't know. so it showed for the first time this data aspiring white students have made up less than half of uk applicants and the other interesting thing. so it's not just about colour, although is about although the headline is about colour also the figures colour, it's also the figures are showing that a record number of teenagers from the most depnved of teenagers from the most deprived areas in the uk have appued deprived areas in the uk have applied , although i suppose applied, although i suppose there could be some crossover there. i don't know. >> well, yeah. nick i mean we always it seems to be ethnicity is brought this major is brought in as this major factor. but but i think we've learnt various in learnt from various reports in the actually it's the past that actually it's economics pay economics that seems to pay a massive you massive way. in this case you have 9.2% of coming from rich areas as opposed to 2.2% from
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the lowest massive economic areas, right? >> yeah, but poor white boys are still, which of course is race and economics. they are still the least likely group to go to university of any demographic and no one cares except perhaps this article. but yeah, it also points out teenagers from wealthier neighbourhoods still far to which is far more likely to go, which is annoying because i was, as we know , i got the third highest know, i got the third highest grade in the country on my history. a—level syllabus. i rarely only history. a—level syllabus. i rarely it only history. a—level syllabus. i rarely it to only history. a—level syllabus. i rarely it to illustrate.only history. a—level syllabus. i rarely it to illustrate. nor history. a—level syllabus. i rarely it to illustrate. no one mention it to illustrate. no one said oxbridge. so said to me, go to oxbridge. so it there, is still that it is still there, is still that posh about it. >> downloaded. posh about it. >> you're downloaded. posh about it. >> you're a downloaded. posh about it. >> you're a force nloaded. posh about it. >> you're a force ofiaded. posh about it. >> you're a force of nature, nick, aren't you're unique. nick, aren't you? you're unique. what about what do you think about contextthe admissions? yes. this is interesting because it sounds like they might be saying they're not just going on merit . they're not just going on merit. >> yes, well, that's the thing . >> yes, well, that's the thing. it's brilliant. like apply the applications is one process is one thing. but when it comes to actually who's getting in are the qualified children , the the best qualified children, the ones who are actually going to the universities what impact ones who are actually going to the uicourse, es what impact ones who are actually going to the uicourse, that what impact ones who are actually going to the uicourse, that have at impact ones who are actually going to the uicourse, that have formpact ones who are actually going to the uicourse, that have for theict is, of course, that have for the future? not we're future? because it's not we're
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not oxbridge here, not just talking oxbridge here, oxbridge. i think it's oxbridge. it's also i think it's medical degrees, dentistry, veterinary and stuff and this is a very recent it's a huge shift. it's gone. white students have gone down from 67.9% only eight years ago to now 49. that's a large drop, arguably. and the other thing they don't mention, i think, is well, they mention it just at the end. china and the role of foreign students within that as well . it's not within that as well. it's not just that you read these headunes just that you read these headlines and you start thinking, oh, it's black and white. not. it's actually white. it's not. it's actually the reality is the impact of foreign over to foreign students coming over to this yeah, this country. crest right. yeah, plenty of money, which is classic howie non question . classic howie non question. >> you almost don't need us. >> you almost don't need us. >> the answer is yes. >> the answer is yes. >> josh almost. almost. i just. i like the winking, that's all. let's check out the times next. and nick, female students just keep on getting stupider and stupid . stupid. >> absolutely. josh hard to top female students far less likely . female students far less likely. >> anybody who complains about
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that link should know that it's in the context of the previous link , which order, link, which was out of order, which you being which was you also being misogyny always ones that >> yeah, always the ones that claim female claim to be feminist. so female students far less likely to get top basically women top degrees. and basically women are not going into stem science , are not going into stem science, technology, engineering, mathematics, despite government efforts to tackle the imbalance and what does this tell us? well, us that people well, it tells us that people are different and we should stop forcing the same . forcing everyone to be the same. and have. we and this is what we have. we have this leftist blank slate ism. the same . ism. everyone must be the same. everyone exactly the everyone must do exactly the same why same things. it's also why do women do the same as women have to do the same as men? i had will knowland on my podcast, of podcast, a different podcast of mine was, because he was mine and he was, because he was sacked eton for a lecture sacked from eton for a lecture on he actually said on masculinity. he actually said , which , feminism is misogynist, which i thought was really interesting. is why do interesting. his point is why do women just have do the things women just have to do the things that obsessed with that men do sort obsessed with getting but getting women into stem, but what if just don't want to what if they just don't want to go this person? go into stem? this person? dorothy byrne, president of murray it murray edwards, calls it shocking . oh, but why so shocking. oh, but why is it so shocking? they quota shocking? and they have a quota at 20. get it? >> when it started? >> when it started? >> yeah, when it started. but but . and she says we need but. and she says we need systemic change in education. do
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we? well, maybe to help the poor white boys. >> she says, uk education in >> as she says, uk education in failing girls. bright girls do you agree with that? >> no, i don't agree with that. >> no, i don't agree with that. >> i think think there have >> i think i think there have been opportunities denied to been no opportunities denied to me whatsoever ever. and think me whatsoever ever. and i think that's a bright, bright girls . that's a bright, bright girls. if i was a bright girl , i'd come if i was a bright girl, i'd come back to that. but i won't look, i'm going to say what i always say . men and women are say. men and women are different. i kind of agreeing with of what you said . with most of what you said. >> it's because he's the man. >> it's because he's the man. >> the man knows he'd be seduced by. no, she just. >> she just knows. to defer to male expertise. oh, it's all the young stuff, isn't it? >> men have got different archetypes . it is about young. archetypes. it is about young. look oh, i've got so many thoughts , i can't get them out thoughts, i can't get them out quickly . but thoughts, i can't get them out quickly. but it thoughts, i can't get them out quickly . but it doesn't surprise quickly. but it doesn't surprise me at all. and the idea that we have to be equal is just so it bludgeons people and why can't we just remember that what's true of a population in general is not necessarily true of an
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individual. if we knew that we could not panic about this stuff so much, absolutely . so much, absolutely. >> absolutely. right over to telegraph cressida and why should homophobic people become roofers, librarians , cafe roofers, librarians, cafe workers among jobs with most lgb employees , roofers and lollipop employees, roofers and lollipop people the least? >> no t in that. don't know why inoficed >> no t in that. don't know why i noticed that as well. >> this is the telegraph. i wonder if they've got a new style guide. this is the first time i've seen lgb gb plus for a while. it's very sort of 2004, isn't it? >> it could just be our producers doing a cut and paste error, no. producers doing a cut and paste err(|, no. producers doing a cut and paste err(| think no. producers doing a cut and paste err(| think this 0. producers doing a cut and paste err(| think this is a sign of >> i think this is a sign of things to come. >> we have excellent producers things to come. >> we show. excellent producers things to come. >> we show. yeah ant producers things to come. >> we show. yeah so producers things to come. >> we show. yeah so which :ers things to come. >> we show. yeah so which you on this show. yeah so which you are of course . well, that are one, of course. well, that was my point, although not today . not today. yeah >> definite drop in quality today to know that, do we? >> so my first question there charting which professions have the most gay people in? i don't know why we need to know that . know why we need to know that. >> well, it's based on the >> well, it's all based on the census, >> well, it's all based on the cenyeah. sorry. well >> yeah. sorry. sorry. well there's probably. there's no
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there's probably. there's no there's no gay roofers, so obviously we need an outreach program, but then gets more program, but then it gets more interesting says that interesting because it says that there's gay people there's a lot of gay people working libraries, working in libraries, and they're this suggestion they're making this suggestion that of the drag queen that a lot of the drag queen story hour controversy is because there's lots of gay people in libraries. and i'm talking about that on sunday at the battle of ideas festival, which i think there are still tickets for. yeah. >> and i'm there on sunday as well. battle of ideas. >> also maybe >> there's also well, maybe you can why can also tell us, nick, why there park there are so many theme park attendants who are gay. >> is weird, isn't it? >> that is weird, isn't it? i don't know. maybe they're into disney. say stereotypes. >> is the most homophobic stereotypes are true. >> basically, this is what we learned. look, flight attendants , i mean, know, it writes , i mean, you know, it writes itself . i , i mean, you know, it writes itself. i mean, don't quite itself. i mean, i don't quite understand lollipop ladies understand why lollipop ladies are so aggressively straight, but 92.3. but it's 92.3. >> they're here. they're referred to as school midday and crossing patrol occupants. >> yes . to give them their >> yes. to give them their correct title. >> can't call >> yeah. well, you can't call them lollipop. they them's. are they. >> well because they're all >> well no, because they're all they're all straight 92.3. but yeah, the roofers the roofers
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isn't surprising anyone is it. because those stereotypes are there reason . make there for a reason. they make sense. there for a reason. they make sense . come on. you know, no one sense. come on. you know, no one thought roofers were gay. there's nothing wrong with saying it's true. when there's >> it's. it's true. when there's no female bricklayers or there's no female bricklayers or there's no roof. things that no gay roof. the things that people want. no, it doesn't matter at but becoming a matter at all. but becoming a doctor all these things doctor and all these things like, you like, well, which way do you want or not? want it? both ways or not? i shut up. shut up. you know what? i mean? >> let's clip that one up. right. sticking with the telegraph , nick. and surely this telegraph, nick. and surely this is a victory for capitalism . is a victory for capitalism. >> um, yeah, this is unilever to tone down social purpose after virtue signalling backlash. so the dove and hellmann's maker says it will no longer force fit brands with a cause because of hind , who's come in. hind schumacher, who's come in. he's sounds like one he's a tough it sounds like one of isn't it? of their products, isn't it? yeah, a i mean, yeah, he sounds like a i mean, i'm germany come i'm assuming he's germany come in and he just all out. in and he just sort it all out. he of virtue he said enough of this virtue signalling nonsense, though weirdly, ben and weirdly, he's allowing ben and jerry's doing their jerry's to carry on doing their thing have a clear thing because they have a clear purpose, is and purpose, which is awful and nonsense. allowing nonsense. and he's allowing dove to on it. it is to carry on doing it. but it is interesting on whole because interesting on the whole because does slight
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does it suggest a slight backlash against woke corporatism know woke capital, as it's sometimes called , and a as it's sometimes called, and a few companies doing this. few companies are doing this. coca quietly removed coca cola quietly removed any mention black lives matter mention of black lives matter from website recently from their website recently following the kind of awful things matter said following the kind of awful things post matter said following the kind of awful things post hamas matter said following the kind of awful things post hamas attack said following the kind of awful things post hamas attack ..aid following the kind of awful things post hamas attack . so, in the post hamas attack. so, you know, are going to you know, are they going to start putting putting the woke away have called away as some people have called it? let's see. it? hopefully. let's see. >> this is it. this seems like a very overt sign of company's very overt sign of a company's rediscovering their purpose, which is to make profits. crestor >> exactly. so backlash sounds a bit heavy to me because i just think, oh, it's just we haven't sold enough soap. you know, victoria's secret is another one. we did a story on that recently. going recently. they're going back to being than being sexy again rather than unattractive women trying to sell undennear. >> i'm rebuying all their stuff. one more section to go and it's a doozy. we have glory, holes, dating, and menopausal dating, advice and menopausal chimps. got it all. see chimps. we've got it all. see you there
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welcome back to headliners. and let's kick off with friday's independent and there's some new hot band out there. cressida, the last beatles song how i brought the fab four back together. >> one final time. will it be the final time? >> the final, final time? >> the final, final time? >> i heard what i is all about. so there's this old so apparently there's this old beatle song never beatle song that never got released. recording released. there is a recording of it, but it's not very good because it's old. they've tried to. it's on a cassette, isn't it? what believe it? right. that's what i believe . it's not . something. yes. yes. it's not digital all. and they've tried to it but they can't. to clean it up, but they can't. but stepped in. i think but i has stepped in. i think this is like a press release for as if beatles need a press as if the beatles need a press release song. so release for a new song. well, so they're going rerelease it. they're going to rerelease it. and very moving and apparently it's very moving because well, it because it sounds just. well, it is voice of john lennon. is the voice of john lennon. >> four of them, >> yeah. so the four of them, for time. and we've for the last time. and we've also seen other i sort of artists coming. we have eminem. there was a there was some songs that have been put out, like as eminem . i mean, he's not he's eminem. i mean, he's not he's not involved any way. not been involved in any way. but on different sort but if you go on different sort of services, they're
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of streaming services, they're actually become big hits actually they've become big hits in right haven't they? actually they've become big hits in that's right haven't they? actually they've become big hits in that's rig kind ven't they? nick that's the kind of upsetting thing almost the fact that i upsetting thing almost the fact thati can upsetting thing almost the fact that i can make it seem like the beatles back together anyway. >> they've to this >> so they've gone to all this trouble actual trouble to get john's actual voice when an i could probably just is . just make you think it is. anyway, course like the anyway, of course i like the beatles. beach boys, beatles. the beach boys, however, best band however, are still the best band of opinion . of all time unpopular opinion. >> no, i think that can't you just like both? >> like no palestine. >> no. like no palestine. >> no. like no palestine. >> and this man loves a hierarchy. yeah. >> he's got to have his list hierarchies. fair enough. okay right. let's take a look at this story in the mail. nick, if we have to . have to. >> yes. this is students vote on whether allow glory for whether to allow glory holes for anonymous sex in public toilets at germany university. i don't see this the tories. >> when cresta doesn't produce. see this the tories. >> inknoeresta doesn't produce. see this the tories. >> inknow lesta doesn't produce. see this the tories. >> inknow i pickdoesn't produce. see this the tories. >> inknow i pick thein't produce. see this the tories. >> inknow i pick the storiesduce. see this the tories. >> inknow i pick the stories on e. >> i know i pick the stories on my podcast guys. a million downloads, but not this. just what say. anyway, it is an what i say. but anyway, it is an interesting though, interesting story though, because it's it's the because it's the it's the university augsburg. what university of augsburg. and what was three was incredible is that three glory be built in glory holes are to be built in the lecture hall centre. it's not just that some not just that there's some people there people have put them in there sort of diy style. they're proposing to actually build them in architecture . but what it
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in architecture. but what it seemed to be was a joke that was accepted as serious because it was germany and you couldn't tell . that's basically what's happened. >> it's the world >> i think it's the whole world really . really. >> well, yeah. when they said when said this bit when they said this one bit about should be dimmable about there should be dimmable lights and knee padding, i mean, okay, well, okay, that was a joke. well, that's that's serious. that's why that's serious. >> that's for health safety , >> that's for health and safety, surely. i a joke awoke surely. i mean, a joke awoke what i thought. i thought that could be new coach. could be the new coach. >> dolan have >> it didn't. dolan have that a while it sounds one while ago? it sounds like one of his sections . his sections. >> it's typical this modern >> it's typical of this modern thing, isn't it, of on the one hand, is so dangerous that hand, sex is so dangerous that we have sensitive ideas we have very sensitive ideas around it, but at the same time, anything goes. but anyway, it turns out it was joke. so turns out it was a joke. so that's or was it? >> well, or was it? >> well, or was it? >> or was it. >> or was it. >> yeah, because might >> yeah, because they might actually think we need a field >> yeah. i think we need a field trip times next cresta is just going to tell us how men how to do it please men need dating advice . advice. >> here's a foolproof guide. here we go . i don't know who's here we go. i don't know who's written this, but i think it's some they're giving some ladies, and they're giving a list of things they're giving
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advice to men and it starts off apparently there's some research that has said that it's actually not. this is from the university of queensland, so think it of queensland, so you'd think it was that they've said it's was legit that they've said it's actually for men actually not important for men to laugh. well women to make women laugh. well women don't with that. everyone don't agree with that. everyone knows it's important to make a woman so that's the woman laugh. so that's the beginning and beginning of the article. and then on. it's then it just goes on. it's a sort list of points that men sort of list of points that men have of dance over, like have to sort of dance over, like this particular one. writer oh my goodness. i'm sorry to say, she doesn't sound like a very nice person. no, men have to do things like that. they have to like of here are like her regardless of here are some the things have to some of the things you have to make you fancy make her feel that you fancy her. if she economises her. even if she economises on body hair maintenance and grooming general. if she grooming in general. if she throws up in the footwell of a car a late night, it's my car after a late night, it's my wife, right? >> this this is asking quite a lot, isn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you need a neat bum. >> you need a neat bum. >> supposedly you've got to trim your bum. there's lots there. and also it's something very serious about hair preservers, which . which was very. >> oh, yeah, they don't like men that to their that don't want to get their hair it sounds like a
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hair wet. so it sounds like a lot of us. did it make you angry, nick? >> it did. it actually comes from which from shane watson, which i assume he asked assume is a man, but he asked women. the problem women women. but the problem is women lie. lie. okay. you know , lie. women lie. okay. you know, they say like, oh, we want men to make us laugh. they don't really. but then again, then they say they don't. but that could you could also be a lie. i mean, you can't women for can't really go to women for what you what women actually want. you can can't can observe them, but you can't actually directly . actually ask them directly. >> think women want? >> what do you think women want? >> what do you think women want? >> well, i've no idea. >> well, i've no idea. >> can't . >> you can't. >> you can't. >> ask you a question? do >> can i ask you a question? do they man they want a man who's got a million downloaded podcast? they want a man who's got a milliothinkvnloaded podcast? they want a man who's got a milliothinkvnloadnthinkicast? you'd think you'd think strangely . strangely. >> you'd think, oh man, this is the best thing. i saw a man on a dating they dating app once and they have these says, these prompts and it says, after work dot, dot, work you can find me dot, dot, dot. guy had written dot. and the guy had written after work. you can find me laying face down in gutter, laying face down in the gutter, but don't worry, ladies, i don't work often . wow. really funny. work often. wow. really funny. a bit a brent. bit of a brent. >> michael scott. when are you guys married? didn't guys getting married? you didn't click. you didn't go left or right on him. oh, come on. >> he >> and the app. oh, no, he didn't back. didn't swipe back. >> got it onto the guardian and nick did just stop oil, get to
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the poppy people. >> oh, yeah. i mean, this is royal british legion gives poppy plastic free makeover . yeah. and plastic free makeover. yeah. and so obviously the poppy is a nice gesture. it's very important to remember fallen soldiers. remember our fallen soldiers. and problem is they're and the only problem is they're making it plastic free. so it's hard for me to engage in remembrance. also remembrance. now, while also sticking it you know, big sticking it to you know, big climate change or whatever it is. so i want a plastic thing with you always has to be two tiered. well, yeah i want 3d. chester well because they're making and it's chester well because they're mconflict and it's chester well because they're mconflict for and it's chester well because they're mconflict for i and it's chester well because they're mconflict for i tomd it's a conflict for me. i want to wear poppy also just wear my poppy and also just waste it's a bit waste plastic. so it's a bit these are be plastic these are going to be plastic free. so okay. >> it's a bit silly, isn't it? it's bit silly. it's a bit silly. >> it's three years the >> it's three years in the making. designing making. they've been designing this whatnot. making. they've been designing thishow whatnot. making. they've been designing thishow much|ot. making. they've been designing thishow much plastic that >> how much plastic did that involve i how mass involve? i mean, how much mass went there ? went there? >> big campaign. not going >> big campaign. we're not going to and forks to have plastic knives and forks anymore. in anymore. and then you go in mass and there's just rows and rows of plastic ones. >> oh, well , yeah. >> oh, well, yeah. >> oh, well, yeah. >> yeah. i thought you said eminem for a second because he just eminem. like eminem, just said eminem. like eminem, his campaign against plastic knives . sorry. his campaign against plastic kni'yeah, . sorry. his campaign against plastic kni'yeah, but . sorry. his campaign against plastic kni'yeah, but we orry. his campaign against plastic kni'yeah, but we are moving into >> yeah, but we are moving into poppy the poppy season. of course, the best is to buy best thing, of course, is to buy
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a is more a metal one, which is more expensive, but then you can use it, then they the year it, but then they put the year on it makes you look on it. so then it makes you look cheap. wearing cheap. if you're wearing like last we saw your one from last year we saw your one from 97 . that's all right. chris what 97. that's all right. chris what are you going to say? >> we could have one, couldn't we? that's ours. like christmas decorations that you keep. and we? that's ours. like christmas dec0iwe)ns that you keep. and we? that's ours. like christmas dec0iwe)ns th.'justu keep. and we? that's ours. like christmas dec0iwe)ns th.'just u keep. every yean >> like very nice. yean >> like very nice . and the >> i like it. very nice. and the guardian it's not guardian again, where it's not just cheater lived a long just cheater who lived a long time. wild female time. cressida wild female chimps live long, post—menopausal life study suggests . suggests. >> so some scientists have been scientists , not boffins, but scientists, not boffins, but scientists . so i guess they know scientists. so i guess they know what they're doing. they've been studying some chimpanzees and so it turns out chimpanzees have the menopause around the age of 50, which is the same as human beings. and then live past beings. and then they live past 50, which is the same as human beings . yeah. and obviously you beings. yeah. and obviously you think, would you have a think, why would you have a woman past woman living past 50? >> crazy. didn't want to >> it's crazy. i didn't want to say no. >> it'll never catch on. but apparently are into apparently the chimps are into it some of these chimps it too. and some of these chimps have lived 20% more life have then lived 20% more life
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after menopause. after the menopause. and the scientists saying, would after the menopause. and the scierhappen saying, would after the menopause. and the scierhappen ?;aying, would that happen? >> what's their purpose? what's what are they for ? good what are they for? good >> does it answer? well, it does some suggestions. >> i mean, one of the things is they're in captivity, so maybe they're in captivity, so maybe the idea that they're saying it's grandma theory so they it's the grandma theory so they can hang out and they're also saying can on saying that they can keep on being active, which being sexually active, which takes pressure the takes the pressure off the younger women. >> to my life right. >> that's back to my life right. let's quickly go to the front fridays , front pages. we are fridays, front pages. we are going to go with straight evil. the daily mail senior tory mp arrested over rape and drugs telegraph putin welcomes hamas to moscow. guardian israel stages raid into gaza as new phase of war begins. the times 200. britain's troop in gaza plead for help expressed dementia cases to rise , but new dementia cases to rise, but new drug offers hope. and finally , drug offers hope. and finally, the daily star grumpy devils and hell to live with. and those were your front pages . that is were your front pages. that is all we have time for. thank you very much. to my guests, krista
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wetton and nick. million downloaded dickson. we're back tomorrow at 11 pm. where nick and krista are back again with superstar lewis schaffer. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. a thank you for joining
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by late. it's thursday night. >> and this is farage at large live from syderstone . live from syderstone. >> please welcome your host , >> please welcome your host, nigel farage. good evening. >> i'm here in moscow again, a very enthusiastic crowd . very enthusiastic crowd. >> we'll be talking middle east. we'll be talking banking and we'll be talking many things. cornish me on cornish and joining me on talking pints tonight. cornish rugby legend phil vickery. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst .
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the news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, the conservative mp crispin blunt has been arrested on suspicion of rape and the possession of controlled substances. the mp for reigate identified himself on social media this afternoon as the man surrey police did detain in horley yesterday morning. well surrey police has confirmed the man was released on conditional police bail pending their further enquiries . pending their further enquiries. mr blunt has already been removed from the tory party and asked to stay away from parliament. the former minister said he'll cooperate fully with the ongoing police investigation and is confident he won't be charged. meanwhile, also in the news tonight, the uk's border force is currently in egypt , force is currently in egypt, with the prime minister confirming officers are ready to help british nationals escape gaza when the border reopens . gaza when the border reopens. and cabinet ministers held an
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emergency cobra meeting this morning to address the escalating crisis in the middle east. the government is pushing for a pause in the fighting, rejecting calls for a full ceasefire to facilitate aid reaching palestinians and in gaza itself, the health ministry says the death toll has now passed 7000 and they say that includes almost 3000 children. meanwhile iran's foreign minister has weighed into the conflict, claiming hamas is ready to release hostages and the world should support the release of 6000 palestinian prisoners . and that comes as the prisoners. and that comes as the arab nations released a joint statement today condemning what they're describing as the forced displacement and collective punishment of palestine , as punishment of palestine, as israel maintains its only targeting the terrorist group hamas . now, targeting the terrorist group hamas. now, in other targeting the terrorist group hamas . now, in other news today hamas. now, in other news today in the united states, a manhunt is continuing after 18 people were killed by a gunman and 13 more left injured . police in the more left injured. police in the state of maine have named

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