producer greg is back. i've got a in my bones. lots a good feeling in my bones. lots to get through. first the news and armstrong . and aaron armstrong. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the breaking news is out of israel tonight. the israeli military has begun a huge bombardment of northern gaza. a senior commanders confirmed they will expand their ground offensive in the hours to come. our security editor mark white is live in tel aviv with the latest. mark >> well, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's spokesman, mark regev , has just said that mark regev, has just said that hamas will feel israel's wrath tonight, that tonight israel begins payback . well, as he is begins payback. well, as he is speaking in, israel is pounding position versions of hamas in northern gaza using artillery and tank fire missiles and fast jets to pound those positions

across the northern northern sector of gaza. israel are warning those citizens in that area to get out , to move south area to get out, to move south as quickly as possible. we're told that all communications with gaza have now been cut off, all landlines and mobile phones and internet coverage has all been severed . and also the uk been severed. and also the uk foreign office now warning it's nationals in the west bank and here in israel that there is the possibility of increased rocket fire as a result of what is happening in terms of this escalation , an escalation that escalation, an escalation that israel confirmed would involve a rather significant escalation of the ground war in the hours ahead. >> mark, thank you very much indeed. for the moment. >> mark, thank you very much indeed. for the moment . well, indeed. for the moment. well, tonight's developments follow consecutive nights of israeli incursions into gaza using tanks and infantry and almost three

weeks of aerial bombardment . weeks of aerial bombardment. shellings and explosions have been seen on the border with gaza, where israeli forces have been massing since the hamas attacks on the 7th of october. in addition, the israeli defence forces say the air force, their air force are carrying out extensive strikes on the network of tunnels and other infrastructure here in the enclave. the un secretary general, antonio guterres , has general, antonio guterres, has again called for a ceasefire and the release of all hostages . he the release of all hostages. he says this is a moment of truth and history will judge us all. meanwhile, some breaking news from new york. the united nafions from new york. the united nations has ovennhelm hinckley adopted a resolution calling for adopted a resolution calling for a humanitarian truce in gaza . a humanitarian truce in gaza. the resolution drafted by arab states condemns all violence , states condemns all violence, terror and indiscriminate acts against palestinian and israeli civilians. members of the general assembly are also demanding aid, access to the besieged gaza strip. the resolution passed with 120 votes in favour , with 45 abstentions

in favour, with 45 abstentions and 14, including israeli and the united states, who voted no. the resolution is non binding, but it could put diplomatic pressure on israel to deescalate the conflict out in the uk. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer are under growing pressure to change their position on on the war. well, that is it for the moment. we'll keep you up to date with all the developing news coming from gaza and israel as we go through the evening. now back to . mark now it's back to. mark >> thanks, aaron. welcome to mark dolan. tonight, all the latest on israeli troops going into gaza as and when we get it into gaza as and when we get it in my big opinion, labour divisions on israel are the tip of the iceberg. if starmer gets in, brace yourselves. for five years of civil war. here in the big story, are hamas winning the pr war? i'll be speaking to a former islamic extremist and supporter of the terror group who now denounces actions. who now denounces their actions. you won't want miss this you won't want to miss this incredible interview . my mark

incredible interview. my mark meets guest is one of the most respected journalists in the world. us tv news icon diane dimond , who was the first dimond, who was the first journalist to reveal child abuse allegations michael allegations against michael jackson and has now turned her attention to the disappearance of mccann . she joins of madeleine mccann. she joins us before the end of the hour. it might take a ten itv and the bbc have embarrassed themselves with their coverage of the israel conflict. this news gathering, it's not as easy as it looks. perhaps gb news is the place to go after all. speaking of which, boris johnson joins the channel. i'll get reaction from tv's news legend nicholas owen . and i'll be reacting to owen. and i'll be reacting to the news that boris is joining us in a special statement at 10:00pm. you won't want to miss it in a mark dolan tonight exclusive gb news investigative reporter charlie peters reveals the shocking scale of extremist speeches in british mosques since the start of the israel—hamas war. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits who

haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight, paul richards, david oldroyd bolt and jasmine birtles . plus, the most important part of the show, your emails, they come straight to my laptop. gbnews.com. this show has a strict golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. a big two hours to come. my reaction to boris at ten. but first my big opinion. a labour government is coming . be labour government is coming. be careful what you wish for. the cervix free leader of the opposition keir starmer, isn't even in number 10 yet, but his party are in the throes of an all out civil war. there are rumours of possible resignations from the shadow cabinet and over 250 labour council chairs have signed a letter challenging starmer's position on israel, which he says has a right to defend itself. although there seems to be a difference between what he told lbc's nick ferrari

and what he told itv news hours later here. >> i'm very clear israel must have that does have that right to defend herself and hamas bears responsibility . bears responsibility. >> a siege is appropriate. cutting off power, cutting off water, secure. >> i think that israel does have that right . that right. >> okay. right so israel has a right to defend itself . or does right to defend itself. or does it? here's what starmer told itv news shortly after i was saying israel had the right to self—defence . self—defence. >> and when i said that right, it was that right to self—defence. i was not saying that israel had the right to cut off water, food , food, fuel or off water, food, food, fuel or medicines . medicines. >> so according to starmer , >> so according to starmer, viewers and listeners misheard what he meant. did we or maybe we're just stupid. let's play it again. >> siege is appropriate . it >> siege is appropriate. it cutting off power, cutting off water secure. >> i think that israel does have that right .

that right. >> hm . i'll let you decide. >> hm. i'll let you decide. guardian columnist owen jones, furiously labelled starmer a liar. i shouldn't seek to use such unparliamentary language myself, but it tells you that far from being strong and stable , steady and sir keir starmer is a political accident, waiting to happen. don't take my word for it. labour backbenchers berated our would be prime minister's position for what they called israeli war crimes. and to make matters worse , the labour mayor matters worse, the labour mayor for london, who seems unbothered by spiralling levels of crime in the capital, choosing to focus his attention on the middle east. take a listen. >> i joined the international community in calling for a ceasefire it would stop the killing and would allow vital aid supplies to reach those those who need it. in gaza , those who need it. in gaza, we're calling for an end to violence is a bit rich from mayor khan. >> i suspect many londoners would like a ceasefire from the relentless knife crime in his city. and this talk of ceasefire

is effectively asking israel to be a sitting duck to terror. a ceasefire is snake oil language. it's double speak for israel. suckit it's double speak for israel. suck it up. if you thought october the seventh was bad, you don't think hamas a planning worse. they have only one objective genocide . and in the objective genocide. and in the face of this rebadged ism, you'll continue to see starmer and his party tie themselves in knots over this important issue. this is off the back of the labour supporting unions , labour supporting unions, furious with starmer's push for net zero, which they believe will harm industry . see labour will harm industry. see labour is split on woke issues too, having seen what happened to nicola sturgeon in scotland , nicola sturgeon in scotland, starmer wants to limit people's ability to self id their agenda. that means deciding from one day to the next that you're now a woman rather a bloke . a woman rather than a bloke. a sensitive and sensible move from starmer, but causing unrest among progressive backbenchers who think there are 100 genders. and then there's trouble brewing over labour's spending pledges.

the left of the party want him to splash the cash, but he says there's no money promising to use the office for budget responsibility as a fig leaf for his prudent investment plans. starmer's strategy is to say as little as possible and to be more silent than charlie chaplin. but starmer's leadership is starting to look like a silent comedy itself , like a silent comedy itself, with more pratfalls than the famous film tramp could ever dream of . whenever he does open dream of. whenever he does open his mouth and makes a plan, such as calling for closer alignment with europe, scrapping oil and gas licences, or cancelling the rwanda plan. even if it works , rwanda plan. even if it works, starmer gets himself into immediate hot water and now, after having more positions on israel than the kama sutra , israel than the kama sutra, starmer once again gets found out. when tested, there's a war in the middle east, but an existential conflict is playing out on those opposition benches too. it's my fear that with a slim majority labour as the governing party will frankly b

ungovernable reesey bickering among tories will look like the queen's garden party by comparison , an starmer's not comparison, an starmer's not even in yet, but he already looks like a cucumber sandwich. this guy always gets himself in a pickle . a pickle. and your reaction, mark at gbnews.com let me know your thoughts. i'll get to your emails very, very presently. but tonight's top pundits, former labour special adviser paul richards, broadcaster and historian david oldroyd bolt, and journalist, author and presenter jasmine birtles, jasmine , i think that the split jasmine, i think that the split over israel is the tip of the iceberg for labour. what's your view? >> well, it could be, but if you're honest, we could say the same. frankly, for the tory party , we've got factions party, we've got factions everywhere , but certainly i everywhere, but certainly i think it is particularly obvious with labour because they're trying to pull back from the

what seemed to be overt anti semitism of the corbyn era . and semitism of the corbyn era. and i know from jewish friends of mine that they they absolutely would not vote labour . so would not vote labour. so i think this is what starmer is trying to do. he's trying to be as, as conciliator as possible to the labour voters, the jewish voters , while at the same time voters, while at the same time keeping the muslim followers happy as well, which is frankly almost impossible , i would say. almost impossible, i would say. yeah. >> paul labour are split on net zero, split on woke trans issues, split on the economy and split on israel . split on israel. >> well, i think your reporting that a major political party has got different views within it, but is that news really? >> i think it is because this party wants to be in power. if you look the conference that you look at the conference that labour liverpool , it was united. >> there was silence for the >> there was the silence for the dead of the massacre , the hamas dead of the massacre, the hamas massacre, starmer won all of the votes on the conference floor. despite the unions that you've mentioned and all the others, he is of labour party

is in charge of the labour party and course there are going and of course there are going to be noises off and people are unhappy that. people unhappy about that. and people who corbyn to come who would love corbyn to come back, happening. so back, but it ain't happening. so he's charge. he's in charge. >> confidently >> yeah, well, you confidently say but the bottom line is say that, but the bottom line is you've backbenchers already you've got backbenchers already diluting israel, diluting his position on israel, talking about war crimes. >> that is a direct contradiction of the policy that he's on the issue. contradiction of the policy that he':well,on the issue. contradiction of the policy that he':well, every�* issue. contradiction of the policy that he':well, every party�*. contradiction of the policy that he':well, every party has those >> well, every party has those kinds of splits roots, kinds of splits and roots, doesn't mean, doesn't it? but i mean, the point they are off. point is they are noises off. they are a minority. they are seeking to make mischief. let's be . these are people be honest. these are people unreconciled to leadership unreconciled to his leadership in first place. they would in the first place. they would love back, it love to have corbyn back, but it ain't happening them. and love to have corbyn back, but it ain'iis appening them. and love to have corbyn back, but it ain'iis app(context them. and love to have corbyn back, but it ain'iis app(context forem. and love to have corbyn back, but it ain'iis app(context for this. \nd this is the context for this. they're making trouble. they're just making trouble. >> okay. what do think about >> okay. what do you think about this, david? >> okay. what do you think about thisdo avid? >> okay. what do you think about thisdo you? >> okay. what do you think about thisdo you think this >> do you think this demonstrates are in demonstrates that labour are in trouble before they've even gone into it into power? i think it demonstrates that there is a significant problem within the labour you labour party of as you said, people to the people unreconciled to the change of leadership from mr corbyn to sir keir and the question i have is what about the party activists? >> what about the people seeking to labour mps at the to become labour mps at the next election ? do they represent election? do they represent sir keir his to me more

keir and his to me more reasonable well, do reasonable views? well, how do we there is no test we know this? there is no test of other than there being of this other than there being in parliament and putting their views and views before the public. and i worry actually worry that actually the parliamentary its parliamentary party and its splits will be mirrored or in fact amplified in the labour party constituencies around the country and that labour mps to come at the next election will be of the more corbynite rather than right stance when than starmer right stance when it comes to this issue particularly, i can you particularly, i can tell you we've of efforts to we've made a lot of efforts to make that isn't going to make sure that isn't going to happen. have, but make sure that isn't going to hapselections have, but make sure that isn't going to hapselections been'e, but make sure that isn't going to hap selections been decent our selections have been decent people selected for those margins. >> don't think , for >> and you don't think, for example, net zero is going example, that net zero is going to be a sort of point of conflict when starmer gets into number 10? >> after all the unions have number 10? >> fithatall the unions have number 10? >> fithatall �*rush nions have number 10? >> fithatall �*rush nions tzero said that his rush to net zero will and hurt will destroy jobs and hurt industry . industry. >> well, you know how politics works. is always works. you know, there is always going debate, going to be this ongoing debate, especially issues especially around huge issues like climate change, geopolitics and on, gender and all the and so on, gender and all the things mentioned. things you've mentioned. it's just dominant just about who's the dominant voice, charge , who gets voice, who's in charge, who gets their their view through . and at their their view through. and at their their view through. and at the moment that is starmer. he has incredible leadership has shown incredible leadership for he's turned

for two years now. he's turned around worst ever around a position of worst ever defeat to brink of defeat to the brink of government . and he's a strong government. and he's a strong leader and that's what you need. government. and he's a strong lnjustr and that's what you need. government. and he's a strong lnjust wonder at's what you need. government. and he's a strong lnjust wonder briefly, it you need. government. and he's a strong lnjust wonder briefly, though eed. government. and he's a strong lnjust wonder briefly, though ,ed. i just wonder briefly, though, jasmine, a slim jasmine, whether with a slim majority labour will find the movement ungovernable because if it's a 10 or 20 seat majority that will hand power to the corbynites on the backbenches at which point i think starmer is in trouble. >> well , that's a very good >> well, that's a very good point. >> and know, certainly if >> and you know, certainly if you who pro you speak to those who were pro corbyn are , they corbyn and still are, they absolutely hate it. the current incumbent , absolutely hate it. the current incumbent, they hate the absolutely hate it. the current incumbent , they hate the way incumbent, they hate the way it's going. so yes, if there is a slim majority and i suspect there will be, then it's going to be interesting. it's going to be sparks. >> well, look, folks, what do you think about this? love my pundits tonight. but let me know your thoughts. mark gbnews.com. pundits tonight. but let me know your thcuphts. mark gbnews.com. pundits tonight. but let me know your thc up next/iark gbnews.com. pundits tonight. but let me know your thc up next in'k gbnews.com. pundits tonight. but let me know your thcup next in'k gibigws.com. pundits tonight. but let me know your thcup next in'k gibig storyn. coming up next in the big story are hamas winning the pr war? i'll be to former i'll be speaking to a former islamic and supporter islamic extremist and supporter of terror who now of the terror group who now denounces their actions. it's to going incredible going be an incredible interview. in interview. he's live in the studio. did he join hamas? studio. why did he join hamas?

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with his brother swimming earlier on gb news radio . earlier on gb news radio. >> i'll get to your emails shortly, but it's time now for the big story . and as pressure the big story. and as pressure grows on israel to call a ceasefire or at least pause its response to the october 7th attacks in order to allow aid to get into gaza and with criticism of israel's response from many politicians and public figures in this country and around the world, are hamas winning the pr battle or has this mediaeval terror group managed against the odds to achieve the moral high ground? and how dangerous might that be for both sides in the conflict? let's speak to suhail ahmed, student at the ahmed, who is a student at the university of cambridge and a former hamas supporter who has been de—radicalised and now condemns organisation . condemns the organisation. written in a recent tweet, he said the following in my experience that most muslims haven't grasped how bad hamas actually are . i say that as actually are. i say that as someone who used to support hamas. to anyone seeing this

tweet who doesn't know me, i used to be an islamist extremist . i genuinely believed all the bad stuff about hamas and it was lies from israel. well, let's get the views now of the man himself. great to have you in the studio, suhail. thank you for how did you get forjoining us. how did you get sucked hamas sucked into being a hamas supporter? it started at a supporter? see, it started at a very young age. >> i was radicalised from the age six onwards as and which some people might find surprising . you don't think of surprising. you don't think of people being radicalised at such a young age, but i was is and i was raised with this hate filled ideology where by i believed britain was the enemy . i britain was the enemy. i believed that non—muslims are in a perpetual war against muslims . a perpetual war against muslims. it's just the standard extremist islamist kind of ideology that i was just raised in was it family members or friends or people you didn't know that were grooming you in this way? it was my parents, in fact. right they had themselves become extreme . themselves become extreme. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what right did this group get you to do? >> i mean, did you actively

participate in any way? did you attend meetings ? what was your attend meetings? what was your what was your sort of role within this grouping? >> absolutely. i wasn't involved in any sort of group per se. i was always kind of on my own . was always kind of on my own. and so i never officially joined a group as such , but i believed a group as such, but i believed entirely in the ideology. >> and were you online reading materials and also, were you communicating with others online about your beliefs ? about your beliefs? >> yes, unfortunately. and i'm very ashamed to say so. i did have a role to play in spreading this ideology . and that's this ideology. and that's something that i will take with me to the grave. >> how would that manifest itself in terms of you having spread the ideology? what did you do so in college for instance, i was very well known instance, i was very well known in the islamic society and i convinced a lot of people to become extremists like me. >> i didn't kind of say anything about terrorism . it was there about terrorism. it was there was no support for violence in terms of my convincing others,

but it was the rest of the extremist ideology . that was extremist ideology. that was what i was pushing. the idea that the west is the enemy. >> exactly . and that you're >> exactly. and that you're either a believer or an infidel. >> yes . and what are the goals >> yes. and what are the goals of hamas, given the fact that you were embedded in its ideology , if not proactively ideology, if not proactively within the group, butjust the within the group, but just the ideas of hamas? >> is their goal? >> what is their goal? >> what is their goal? >> well, their goal is to eliminate israel , wipe it off eliminate israel, wipe it off the map. they they do not want any sort of negotiation. they do not want a two state solution . not want a two state solution. they don't want a solution at all. the only solution they are for is wiping israel off the map and that will involve genocide . and that will involve genocide. >> how much support do hamas have among palestinians? is that question even possible to answer? >> it's very difficult to answer because obviously you can't kind of study and do polling data in the gaza strip with hamas in charge. but but from what i've

seen and from what i've gleaned , seen and from what i've gleaned, especially from friends that live in the gaza strip , it is live in the gaza strip, it is very widespread . very widespread. >> and what was the trigger that inspired you to walk away from this ideology ? this ideology? >> it was a number of things . >> it was a number of things. but chief, among them, it was my understanding , evolutionary understanding, evolutionary biology , so strange, so science biology, so strange, so science saved you. science did indeed saved you. science did indeed save me. but i realised that contradicted my entire ideology and i was forced then to change my entire world just unravelled because you learnt about the origins of humanity via nature and this contradicted the theology preached by by the likes of hamas. it wasn't just that, but there were other incidents too . for instance, incidents too. for instance, oncei incidents too. for instance, once i went to a jewish home and i was selling a computer to them

and the little toddler , they had and the little toddler, they had and the little toddler, they had a little kid came up to me and suddenly just became attached to me . and the parent said, he me. and the parent said, he wants to play with you. so i was really young. i sat down and i started playing with his toy cars his parents were cars and his parents were looking on on what was happening and smiling . and i remember and smiling. and i remember looking across at them and thinking , i looking across at them and thinking, i hate them , but looking across at them and thinking , i hate them , but they thinking, i hate them, but they don't hate me. in thinking, i hate them, but they don't hate me . in fact, they don't hate me. in fact, they trusting me with their child and that changed a lot for me. >> oh , israel, right. that hamas >> oh, israel, right. that hamas needs to be eliminated or is there another way? >> honestly , as long as hamas is >> honestly, as long as hamas is in power, there will be no peace . they just categorically will not be. and i mean, with all the firing of rockets and causing israel to respond and retaliate , israel to respond and retaliate, it's just a perpetual cycle of violence. and it makes no, there is no strategic sense to what

hamas is doing because it's hurting the palestinian people . hurting the palestinian people. it's hurting and killing them. >> of course . >> of course. >> of course. >> exactly . >> exactly. >> exactly. >> of course, critics of israel, israel would argue that israel has a case to answer for its treatment of the palestinian people . people. >> what would you say to that? >> what would you say to that? >> i would say that before other people got involved internationally , i would kind of internationally, i would kind of caution against that because often this conflict is viewed in black and white terms, and a lot of people kind of lose their minds over it. it's of people kind of lose their minds over it . it's they have minds over it. it's they have a caricature idea of it, a good guy versus bad guy. >> and it's very tribal. >> and it's very tribal. >> exactly. it's very tribalistic . and the conflict is tribalistic. and the conflict is very complicated. it's got multiple facets to it . multiple facets to it. >> and what have you been through personally on this journey? >> how much of an impact has it had on you as a young person being sort of sucked into this ideology and then leaving it? tell me about that journey for

you . you. >> oh, that journey , honestly. >> oh, that journey, honestly. rnr rejecting my former ideological beliefs, my extremist beliefs was the hardest thing i've ever done . hardest thing i've ever done. and i honestly, i don't think i will ever do anything as difficult as that in my entire life because as i had to risk the possibility that i might make the wrong choice and then burn in hell forever, it was i had that genuine fear like leaving a cult. exactly. it was very much like a cult . very much like a cult. >> and have you suffered push back from relatives or friends as a result of this? >> move away from this ideology ? >> move away from this ideology? >> move away from this ideology? >> that's a good question. in fact, everyone been pretty much abandoned me when i when i kind of came out of the ideology, when i, you know , showed my true when i, you know, showed my true ideas as everyone just left me . ideas as everyone just left me. >> so you did it alone? >> so you did it alone? >> i did it alone. >> i did it alone. >> and are you in touch with your family now? your parents even? >> no, not really . the >> no, not really. the

relationship is non—existent and would you say that they are still in that rabbit hole of the ideology of hate and of hamas ? ideology of hate and of hamas? from what i'm hearing, yes . from what i'm hearing, yes. >> do you do you hope at some point you could reconnect with your family? is there any hope of that? >> honestly , given that did >> honestly, given that i did metrically, given the fact that i'm so diametrically opposed to their views , i, i wouldn't want their views, i, i wouldn't want to get back in touch with them . to get back in touch with them. >> have you feared for your safety as a result of this move, and especially being brave enough to come on channels like this and tell your story ? this and tell your story? >> yes, it's always a concern , >> yes, it's always a concern, but i've i've thought about it and i, i came to the conclusion that regardless of what happens to me , i have to do something. i to me, i have to do something. i have to serve my country . have to serve my country. previously, i wanted the downfall of britain. now i'm a proud british patriot and i want this issue to be resolved . it's this issue to be resolved. it's far too dangerous, far too severe and far too embedded .

severe and far too embedded. >> the israeli troops are now crossing into gaza . we're crossing into gaza. we're expecting casualties. we're expecting casualties. we're expecting bombings. we're expecting bombings. we're expecting armed combat. do you support the actions of israel right now? because there are many politician in this country and elsewhere calling for a ceasefire. see on an emotional level , i do want the fighting to level, i do want the fighting to stop because seeing the human suffering affects me. >> and you want supplies to get through like we all do. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> but on a rational level, i israel has no choice but to respond to this attack. if they don't respond, hamas will keep pushing and will do something worse next time in fact, this is it's we've got a lot of evil, evil options . and essentially, evil options. and essentially, we have to choose the lesser of the two evils and the lesser of the two evils and the lesser of the two evils is you respond to hamas, there will be civilian casualties. but in the long run, you save more lives .

you save more lives. >> you were a remarkable guy. i congratulate you on your journey because you've clearly chosen a more positive outlook now and less about hate and absolutely destroying another group of people because of their race. it's amazing courage and thank you for telling your story. you're a bit of a genius as well, aren't you? first of all, open university was it a maths degree, maths and physics? maths and the easy, easy subjects? yeah, maths and physics. >> very easy subjects. >> very easy subjects. >> you into >> and then you got into cambridge university you're cambridge university and you're now immunology , is that right? >> that's correct. i'm doing two part both part time degrees at both institutions . institutions. >> a busy guy . well, >> you're a busy guy. well, look, can i wish you really good luck with your degree. and next time, 0“, time, why don't you come on, let's about shall let's talk about covid, shall we? for old we? just for. just for old time's sake? absolutely. you've chosen sort of topical chosen a very sort of topical degree haven't you? degree to be doing, haven't you? indeed pandemic, indeed for the next pandemic, maybe. listen, to great you indeed for the next pandemic, m.thel. listen, to great you indeed for the next pandemic, m.the studio., to great you indeed for the next pandemic, m.the studio. thankzat you indeed for the next pandemic, m.the studio. thank you you in the studio. thank you for telling story, hill telling your story, sir. hill ahmed, think agree ahmed, i think you'll agree a remarkable guy. reaction? remarkable guy. your reaction? mark can the hateful mark gbnews.com. can the hateful ideology of hamas ever be destroyed by coming with destroyed by coming up with tonight's pundits? boris johnson

joins gb news. i'll get reaction from his colleague in parliament and here at the channel plus gb news reporter news investigate reporter charlie peters reveals the shocking scale of extremist speeches in british mosques since the start of the israel—hamas war. that's

>> and you're listening to gb news radio . news radio. >> what a day. more on the bombshell news that boris johnson is to join gb news as a presenter. i'll be giving my first on air reaction to that news at exactly 10:00. but it is a massive signing for the channel. >> hi folks. boris johnson here. i'm excited to say that i'm shortly to going be joining you on gb news and i'm going to be giving this remarkable new tv channel my unvarnished views on everything from russia, china , everything from russia, china, the war in ukraine, how we meet all those challenges to the huge opportunities that lie ahead for

us. why i think our best days are yet to come and why , on the are yet to come and why, on the whole, the people of the world want to see more for global britain, not less. so join me on gb news for some great british television . television. >> well, i'm very excited about the news. i'm delighted that bofisis the news. i'm delighted that boris is joining us, although devastated that i will no longer be the presenter with the messiest hair. listen, let's get reaction from somebody that's already a massive star on the network. one half of esther and phil saturday mornings at phil on saturday mornings at 10:00. philip, 10:00. philip davies philip, what signing . what a signing. >> it's amazing. it really is amazing . and you know, lots of amazing. and you know, lots of our viewers, you you see all the views that come in from our viewers, mark. and as i do and lots of our viewers, they love bofis lots of our viewers, they love boris johnson . um, and they'll boris johnson. um, and they'll be absolutely over the moon that he'll the channel and he'll be joining the channel and it's feather in the cap it's a real feather in the cap for the channel. he's the, you know, boris is the most influential and most recognisable politician of his generation. and the fact that he's decided come to gb news

he's decided to come to gb news is fantastic for the channel and says a lot about how, uh, how credible people like former prime ministers think gb news is after such a short time on air. >> most definitely . philip it's >> most definitely. philip it's clear why we wanted him. perhaps arguably the most influential , arguably the most influential, consequential elected politician of his generation. he got brexit done. of his generation. he got brexit done . he kept jeremy corbyn out done. he kept jeremy corbyn out of number 10 with that 2019 landslide victory , many networks landslide victory, many networks would have liked his autograph, his signature talktv channel for itv sky, you name it. why do you think he chose gb news? i think there's a lot, lots of reasons. >> i think he knows that lots of these biggest fans are gb news viewers and in some cases gb news presenters . um, but also news presenters. um, but also i think the other the other point is it's a gb news is a is an exciting growing channel. it believes in free speech. it does it mean you can't imagine boris at the bbc, can you, with all

the layers and layers of rules and policies and things like that. you know, boris is a free spirit and the free spirit needs the channel that believes in free speech. >> look, i'm delighted that he's coming. but let me tell you, philip, you'll always be my favourite. and you're back tomorrow with the mrs. tomorrow at 10:00 with the mrs. >> i certainly am. and unfortunately for me, mark, you'll always be her favourite . you'll always be her favourite. >> hahaha. >> hahaha. >> listen , i'll believe that all >> listen, i'll believe that all day long. if only. but listen, can't wait for tomorrow's show. philip thank you for joining can't wait for tomorrow's show. philip thank you forjoining us philip thank you for joining us live from westminster. burning the midnight the the midnight oil there. the brilliant who brilliant philip davies mp who returns at ten tomorrow. that show on a saturday morning. i love it because i'm tidying the house. i've got it on gb news radio on dab and it's a cracking list and of course, even better to watch reacting big to watch reacting to this big signing. let's get the of signing. let's get the views of former labour special adviser paul and paul richards, broadcaster and historian david oldroyd bolt and journalist, author and presenter jasmine . and listen, jasmine birtles. and listen, paul jasmine birtles. and listen, paul, there's no way that you are the ideological soulmate of

bofis are the ideological soulmate of boris johnson , but plenty of boris johnson, but plenty of people, including those on the left, will be giving him a bit of a watch, won't they? >> to talking a former new >> i was to talking a former new labour minister this afternoon about this very topic and we agreed on two things. one, anyone underestimates boris anyone who underestimates boris is an idiot and the 2019 election showed us that in spades. and second of all, what on earth will the conservatives thinking of getting rid of him? he obviously an electoral he was obviously an electoral asset just the asset and it just shows the state, the tory party, that he's ended here rather still ended up here rather than still running your reaction to this >> david, your reaction to this news? my eyes popped out of my head when i saw it twitter . head when i saw it on twitter. >> amazing. the word isn't >> yeah, amazing. the word isn't it, really? it's good it, really? i think it's good that boris johnson going back that boris johnson is going back to milieu , which to his natural milieu, which is entertainment rather than politics, which is a serious craft for an unserious man. the point is that he was always a rather disastrous politician . rather disastrous politician. the amazing thing was that he ever managed to get anything done at all, and i give much of the credit to that, not to him, but those around and but to those around and who managed the managed to keep the extraordinary on the road managed to keep the extjustiinary on the road managed to keep the

extjust long on the road managed to keep the extjust long enough1 the road managed to keep the extjust long enough forie road managed to keep the extjust long enough for him id managed to keep the extjust long enough for him to for just long enough for him to win think it win that election. i think it will great viewing. i think will be great viewing. i think you've most wonderful you've done the most wonderful commercial thing you could possibly channel, possibly have done as a channel, and whoever's decision and i applaud whoever's decision it was for doing that, and i hope brings many, many hope it brings in many, many viewers many hours of viewers who get many hours of entertainment from while entertainment from him while serious run serious people try and run the country mess that country and fix the mess that it's in the past 25 it's been for in the past 25 years. well, i don't years. well, jasmine, i don't know package is, what know what the package is, what the but he'll certainly the deal is, but he'll certainly be pay some of that be able to pay for some of that expense of which expense live wallpaper of which he's . he's so fond. >> yes, he yes, it would >> yes, he will. yes, it would be lovely to know how much, but i doubt if we'll ever find out. it will. as david said, it will be hugely entertaining to watch him listen to him. i will certainly be watching at least a few of programmes . what i'd few of his programmes. what i'd like know is, though, that if like to know is, though, that if he's going to held he's going to be held accountable in programmes accountable in these programmes for things that he for some of the things that he did while he was actually in power, you know , lockdown that power, you know, lockdown that was under his watch, the and all the problems with that the money printing thing, the vaccine issues. i'd like to know if he's going to be held accountable for

that. i suspect possibly not. but not to mention masking us and masking kids in the classroom . classroom. >> jasmine. well, listen, i'll be giving my considered verdict on boris johnson joining gb news at exactly 10:00, not after just on the button of ten. i don't think you'll want to miss it. my brilliant pundits are back shortly, but almost three weeks on from the terror attack on israel, which saw the loss of 1400 lives and over 200 hostages taken full scale of taken the full scale of anti—semitic sentiment within british mosques is coming to light . gb british mosques is coming to light. gb news british mosques is coming to light . gb news investigative light. gb news investigative reporter charlie peters, who reported on the events in the middle east live from israel over the last couple of weeks, joins us in studio with joins us in the studio with a brand new expose. charlie, thank you for joining brand new expose. charlie, thank you forjoining us. what have you for joining us. what have you for joining us. what have you discovered? well the conflict hotting up tonight. conflict is hotting up tonight. >> looking like there's >> there's looking like there's going ground going to be further ground incursions strip. incursions into the gaza strip. >> was fascinating >> but what was fascinating while there, seeing all while we were there, seeing all the extreme violence taking place, and the daily place, the horrors and the daily rocket endured rocket attacks that we endured even israel, was how even in central israel, was how many israelis and many british israelis and britons we met out there were

looking back at events in london and across and thinking, and across the uk and thinking, do and across the uk and thinking, d0 i'd and across the uk and thinking, do i'd rather be do you know what i'd rather be here? in israel have here? because in israel i have an iron dome missile defence system me safe. but they system to keep me safe. but they saw people protesting a very saw people protesting in a very violent manner in the uk , saw violent manner in the uk, saw some of the comments and chants being made and the reports of a rocketing and anti—semitic incidents and they're very concerned. since i got back on sunday night, i spent quite a lot time looking into the lot of time looking into the problems home because this is problems at home because this is a going on in britain problems at home because this is atoo. going on in britain problems at home because this is atoo. i've going on in britain problems at home because this is atoo. i've been ng on in britain problems at home because this is atoo. i've been watching3ritain problems at home because this is atoo. i've been watching plenty , too. i've been watching plenty of footage released, very of footage released, often very quietly mosques across quietly by many mosques across the country. isn't in the country. this isn't just in london, throughout britain . and london, throughout britain. and here's what i've had to here's some of what i've had to recover. a watch now . recover. let's have a watch now. >> when criminal jews, they >> when the criminal jews, they escalate the aggression against our muslim brothers and sisters in palestine intervene, intervene , stop the ethnic intervene, stop the ethnic cleansing of gaza and palestine. >> intervene . speech during the >> intervene. speech during the hearit >> intervene. speech during the hear it don't want to hear no speech, intervene and stop the

genocide of palestinian muslims. it's like a rapist saying that he's the victim . it's like he's the victim. it's like someone coming into your house telling you you can live in the cellar, locking you up in the cellar. and you decided one day i'm going fight back and you i'm going to fight back and you scratched him on his face. i'm going to fight back and you scritheed him on his face. i'm going to fight back and you scrithe jewsn on his face. i'm going to fight back and you scrithe jews will his face. i'm going to fight back and you scrithe jews will fightace. i'm going to fight back and you scrithe jews will fight you and >> the jews will fight you and you prevail over them . you will prevail over them. >> then a rock will say , oh, >> then a rock will say, oh, muslim, here is a jew behind me. >> kill him. well that's footage. >> it's important that we understand the scale of anti—semitic hate in this country on british soil . country on british soil. >> it is rocketing up hundreds of incidents reporting the met today announcing a significant rise. they did an operational brief on the work they're doing. they're for more they're looking for more information public. but information from the public. but also there's work for journalists do here look journalists to do here to look into speeches and actually into these speeches and actually to the bravery report on to have the bravery to report on the violence that's happening in england well as in israel. england as well as in israel. i mean, the let's just go through the we just heard. the comments we just heard. okay. first and foremost, describing criminal

describing the criminal jews. that in in that was a mosque in swansea in south wales, talking, calling on muslim invade israel, muslim armies to invade israel, calling direct escalation calling for a direct escalation from arab armies in the region . from arab armies in the region. that's extreme, extreme statements , especially in a statements, especially in a religious sermon. and then further comments there , quoting further comments there, quoting from scripture kill a jew, something like that . it's such something like that. it's such an extreme thing to say, even in the context that he was giving it scripture really it from from scripture really and i would say quite evil commentary to report on and to watch. and i can understand and why so many british israelis that we met in israel and the gb news team said, what's it like at home? that's what they wanted to know what's going on in london, here london, because we're here because here because we've moved here or we're to serve in the army we're here to serve in the army and we're very, very nervous about seeing back about what they're seeing back home. see that kind home. and when you see that kind of you can understand of footage, you can understand why. >> well, indeed. i mean, these figures, sort figures, these are not just sort of from of lonely tweeting from their mothers these mothers bedroom. these are influential faith leaders in this country , people with this country, people with status, people with authority , status, people with authority, and, of course, people with a platform . have they anything

platform. have they had anything to ? to say? >> i've sent off dozens of >> so i've sent off dozens of emails over the last days emails over the last few days looking from many looking for responses from many of these mosques. and i should just snippet just say that's just a snippet of we've of the information that we've got on further reporting will come the next come on this in the next few days online on on the days online and on on the channel most of the mosques have days online and on on the chanthatviost of the mosques have days online and on on the chanthat they of the mosques have days online and on on the chanthat they are 1e mosques have days online and on on the chanthat they are goingsques have days online and on on the chanthat they are going to |es have said that they are going to investigate. some of them have said speakers were said that those speakers were not employees , but not full time employees, but also plenty have responded by standing by their comments, especially saying we won't condemn the hamas terrorists unless you also condemn israel. so quite a strong and strident stance defending what they're seeing. i think it has erupted extreme differences and extreme opposition in our own country. and it's i think it's quite concerning to see these things take place at home as well as in israel. >> charlie, can i salute you for your coverage of the conflict in israel ? very, very hard time , israel? very, very hard time, um, and very, very difficult conditions in which to report. but you did so with such

distinction as has mark white and also this important expose of which i think there's more to come weekend. that right? >> that's right. come. >> that's right. more to come. i mean, we'll be releasing more footage and responses and mean, we'll be releasing more foota3000d responses and mean, we'll be releasing more foota3000 words responses and mean, we'll be releasing more foota3000 words oflsponses and mean, we'll be releasing more foota3000 words of quotes; and mean, we'll be releasing more foota3000 words of quotes to nd over 3000 words of quotes to come on this story and which is, i the police have i think, well, the police have been contacted, the charity commission contacted . commission have been contacted. just to say. just one final thing to say. some these mosques are some of these mosques are registered charities . some of registered charities. some of them received hundreds them have received hundreds of thousands in thousands of pounds in government grants. the charity commission taking look. commission is taking a look. i've sent on the information i've sent on all the information to metropolitan police, who, to the metropolitan police, who, of course, have counter—terrorism duties for across country . we'll across the entire country. we'll see more ground see what they say more ground breaking journalism courtesy of charlie peters, gb news news correspondent. >> coming up next in my take at ten in just a few minutes time, itv and the bbc embarrass themselves with their coverage of the israel conflict. this news gathering is not as easy as it looks. they don't have charlie they ? perhaps charlie peters, do they? perhaps gb place to go . gb news is the place to go. after all, i'll be dealing with the mainstream broadcasters shortly. meets shortly. but first my mark meets guest is one of the most respected journalists in the

world. diane world. us tv news icon diane dimond. she's

n ext a next a lot of excitement about the return of boris johnson to pubuc return of boris johnson to public life via gb news. that's right . i'll public life via gb news. that's right. i'll be talking about it at exactly 10:00. this from matron and bingo, bob. i'd love to be around at your place. that sounds like fun. they said, hi, mark. well done. getting boris. he's a great guy and needs to be back number 10. he a back in number 10. he was a great prime minister and the best maggie best we've had since maggie thatcher. boris back a thatcher. bring boris back a couple you critical of boris couple of you critical of boris johnson saying they're disappointed channel disappointed that channel has employed . well, i'll be employed him. well, i'll be giving verdict boris giving my verdict on boris johnson, all, in johnson, warts and all, in exactly ten minutes time. david on the issue of the middle east, he says 50,000 jews in the uk fought for the british during world war i. this land is their land, too. it's abhorrent that ignorant young people are on the streets chanting vile, anti—semitic rhetoric . david,

anti—semitic rhetoric. david, you're absolutely right. keep those emails coming. marco gbnews.com. it's time now for the results of the latest mark dolan tonight people's poll. i've been asking will you be watching boris johnson on gb news and i've got two answers. you can either have. yes or definitely yes. so no, 73% say yes . and 26.9% say definitely yes. and 26.9% say definitely me. so there you go. take that as a yes . looking fonnard to as a yes. looking fonnard to this. it's time for mark meets . this. it's time for mark meets. and tonight, one of the most respected journalists in the world, us tv news legend diane dimond, the woman perhaps best known for breaking the story of child molestation allegations against michael jackson and her coverage of the subsequent criminal trial. she spent much of her career exposing corruption and abuse among the rich and powerful. plus, she's interviewed notorious hollywood madam heidi fleiss, martin luther king junior's assassin, james earl ray, and she won

plaudits for her fearless coverage of the oj. simpson murder trial. she's also investigated the case of missing british schoolgirl madeleine mccann , but it's her work mccann, but it's her work exposing michael jackson that may prove to have the most significant legacy, placing a permanent question mark over the reputation of arguably the biggest male star in the world since elvis presley. and her new bookis since elvis presley. and her new book is out. looks like a fascinating read. it's called we're here to help. when guardians ship goes wrong . guardians ship goes wrong. you'll remember what happened to britney spears . we'll discuss britney spears. we'll discuss that in just a moment. diane diamond, dolan diamond, welcome to mark dolan tonight . but where does this tonight. but where does this appetite for exposing the truth and unearthing corruption come from ? from? >> oh, i don't know. >> oh, i don't know. >> somewhere deep within my soul >> somewhere deep within my soul, i suppose . i >> somewhere deep within my soul, i suppose. i guess >> somewhere deep within my soul, i suppose . i guess it was soul, i suppose. i guess it was instilled by my parents who always preached integrity. your word was your bond and you treated each other like you wanted to be treated. and when i find there's some inequity or some bully on a lesser victim,

i'm there. i want to tell that story. >> and you did that for michael jackson's alleged victims. at what point, diane , did you what point, diane, did you realise that michael jackson at the time, the biggest star in the time, the biggest star in the world, had a serious case to answer ? answer? >> i suppose august 1993. that sounds so long ago, doesn't it? 20 years. call me 30 in my newsroom and said i have a police report for you. i have a report from the child welfare department. i want to give it to you. it's confidential . you can you. it's confidential. you can never use my name and i met this source in an italian restaurant in santa monica, california. and i got the police file on what the investigation on michael jackson was. so now i'm a reporter. i'm an investigative reporter. i'm an investigative reporter. and i couldn't keep that to myself. i had to tell people what the police were looking at, how compelling was the evidence, diane . pretty

the evidence, diane. pretty compelling. may i say that on television? you may , yeah. i television? you may, yeah. i mean, the report were so specific . names, addresses , specific. names, addresses, times, dates, places that things occurred , the young boy's words occurred, the young boy's words written down on the police report . and so we just generally report. and so we just generally did a shorter piece, short type of piece about what these reports were revealing. and then the floodgates opened and i got calls constantly from people who had worked with michael jackson , had worked with michael jackson, who were still working with michael jackson. and you know, you work your sources and you try to confirm what they're saying or you don't put them on the air. now of course, it's important to stress that michael jackson when denied jackson, when alive, denied these allegations actions. >> but based upon the allegations that you looked at very , diane, what was very carefully, diane, what was his modus operandi? what was his alleged way of going about these crimes, which were never proven? well and we must say, too, that

he went to a criminal trial and was acquitted on all charges. >> so that's important . and >> so that's important. and that's in my book that i wrote about that his mo. as far as i could ascertain , is was to could ascertain, is was to pinpoint young males. now, there sometimes were some young girls around him, too , but mostly around him, too, but mostly young males. and then invite them to neverland . now, can you them to neverland. now, can you imagine a ten, 12 year old, eight year old boy to going a place where there's a zoo and a fully stocked theatre with any candy you want to eat and a swimming pool and slides and motorbikes and a train and it's all yours , all yours. and then all yours, all yours. and then you get invited to sleep in the master bedroom. do you think michael jackson was a >> well . >> well. >> well. >> well, you know, i don't reach any conclusion in the book. i wrote. i let readers go through the evidence as i learned it step by step. but over the years

, yes, i have come to the conclusion that he was a very pubuc conclusion that he was a very public public who very nearly looked at all of us and said, try to stop me. i'm michael jackson . now, you know, just you jackson. now, you know, just you making me talk about this now, mark, my email is going to blow up and i'll get more death threats. but yes, i do believe that he was guilty of the crimes you reported on, the disappearance of madeleine mccann, a british child who disappeared from her parents accommodation at a holiday resort in port google. >> what's your view of what may have happened? and will we ever find this poor young woman ? find this poor young woman? >> oh, i don't think so. i don't think so. just given the proximity to where she was taken, i think probably there's another case here, a young girl who disappeared in aruba and we just recently discovered her body was put into the ocean and will never be recovered. and i'm afraid that is probably what

happened to madeleine mccann. there is a suspect, a german man , who i really like for this crime. he was in the vicinity. he had a history. crime. he was in the vicinity. he had a history . and it if her he had a history. and it if her fate has been was death, i hope it was quick . it was quick. >> listen, i'm going to have to read your michael jackson book, which is called be careful who you love inside the michael jackson case . yes. but you do jackson case. yes. but you do have a brand new book out, which i'm going to have to read as well. it's called we're here to help. guardianship goes help. when guardianship goes wrong. in advance , wrong. apologies in advance, diane, against us, diane, the clock is against us, but give us a brief but can you give us a brief summary of this and why you summary of this book and why you wrote it? summary of this book and why you wrosure. it again struck me >> sure. it it again struck me that there were people being victimised by bullies and the bullies in this case are in the justice system here in america. guardianship just briefly, is a program that you use have a similar one there, i believe it's called deputyship. yeah. when there's a vulnerable person

, an older, maybe an alzheimer victim, someone living with a disability and they need help living their life. they get a guardian from a court. now it used to be if family member was named as a guardian, but more and more i've discovered and i've been investigated on this topic for eight years now , topic for eight years now, judges are appointing for profit strangers to and it looks like an absolute shambles. >> diane the book is called we're here to help. when guardianship goes wrong, we'll speak again. thank you for your time. next up, my reaction to bofis time. next up, my reaction to boris johnson. joining

gb news. it's 10:00 on television, gb news. it's10:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight and a historic day for the channel. greg, before we start, can you cut the music, please? thank you very much. how long have the

establishment been predicting or even planning the demise of gb news? well, let's be honest. they've had it for in us since before we came on air, which tells you everything you need to know about their motives . know about their motives. nothing the output, nothing to do with the output, just the abject terror at the thought of a new player on the media scene, especially one with an alternative viewpoint that dares to challenge the prescribed narrative on net zero woke political correctness. our history, the economy, race relations or or the policing of our borders . and god forbid we our borders. and god forbid we should give you a voice . of should give you a voice. of course, everyone wants to cancel us from the likes of sky news star adam bolton to a cabal of illiberal campaigners who want to stop funding debates by orchestrating an advertising boycott of the channel. a campaign which , in the long run, campaign which, in the long run, let me tell you, is doomed to fail. unlike this place, which goes from strength to strength,

our website alone is already one of the biggest in the country. we regularly cruise past our rivals in prime. i'm often beating sky at about this time and that mark dolan tonight is officially the most listened to current affairs programme in this time slot in commercial radio broadcasting . there are radio broadcasting. there are the viral videos, the newspaper column inches the debates about our very existence on newsnight and the today programme and the, condescending remarks of its presenters. people just can't stop talking about us. and that went up a gear today with the signing of boris johnson. the most consequential elected politician of his generation, becoming a presenter later on this very channel. mark dolan tonight is the home of diverse opinion and it's my strong opinion and it's my strong opinion that whilst boris deserves credit for winning in 2019 and thus keeping jeremy corbyn out of number 10, and he deserves credit for getting brexit across the line , he was brexit across the line, he was also the architect of lockdowns

and mask and vaccine tyranny, for which i will never forgive him . but it's all about opinions him. but it's all about opinions and whether you agree with boris or disagree, there's no question we'll all be watching and we'll all be listening . ng the biggest all be listening. ng the biggest name in politics has joined the most talked about channel in the country. boris johnson got brexit done and gb news, who's got boris done ? the appointment got boris done? the appointment of one of the most famous politicians in the world to come to this place shows how far we've come in two and a bit years and we've got so much further to go. i do hope you'll join me on mark dolan tonight and on gb news for what promises to be the journey of a lifetime. we've only just started. but let me tell you, i can't do it without you. so boris, welcome to the old place. it'll be great to the old place. it'll be great to have you. and no one will punish you for having a party here. in fact , i'll show you here. in fact, i'll show you where we keep the red wine and cake. there you go. exciting

times. my take a turn next. first, here are the news headunes first, here are the news headlines and aaron armstrong . headlines and aaron armstrong. very good evening to you . very good evening to you. >> i'm aaron armstrong. we start with some breaking news in the middle east. the israeli army is stepping ground stepping up its ground operations in gaza amid a wave of intensive allied attacks on the enclave . our homeland the enclave. our homeland security editor mark white sent this from tel aviv . this report from tel aviv. >> we're very strong and ominous comments from the israeli prime ministers, officials spokesman mark regev , who said that hamas mark regev, who said that hamas will suffer israel's wrath tonight, that tonight israel begins its payback . mark, those begins its payback. mark, those comments come as hamas positions come under intense bombardment, strikes from tanks and artillery as well as missiles and fast jets that the idf have confirmed that tonight they will expand their ground war in gaza

significantly. they've issued another warning to civilians in northern gaza to get out of the area and to head south. and meanwhile , the uk foreign office meanwhile, the uk foreign office hasissued meanwhile, the uk foreign office has issued an urgent warning to british nationals in israel , british nationals in israel, warning of the possibility of increased rocket attacks in the hours and days ahead. in response to this major escalation . in on tonight's escalation. in on tonight's escalation. in on tonight's escalation follows consecutive nights of israeli incursions into gaza, an almost three weeks of aerial bombardment. >> shelling and explosions have been seen on the border with the territory where israeli forces have been massing since the hamas attacks on october the 7th. the terror group's confirmed its fighters are clashing with israeli troops . clashing with israeli troops. the israeli air force is carrying out extensive strikes on the network of tunnels and other infrastructure , internet other infrastructure, internet and mobile phone services have also been cut off in the gaza strip . meanwhile, the united strip. meanwhile, the united nafions strip. meanwhile, the united nations has ovennhelmingly

adopted a resolution calling for adopted a resolution calling for a humanitarian truce in gaza. the resolution drafted by arab states, condemns all violence , states, condemns all violence, terror and indiscriminate attacks against palestinian and israeli civilians and also calls for the unconditional release of hostages . it's demanding aid, hostages. it's demanding aid, access to the besieged gaza strip, 120 members of the ga voted in favour . for 85 abstain, voted in favour. for 85 abstain, and that includes the united kingdom and 14 voted against it, which includes israel and the united states. the resolution is non—binding , but it could put non—binding, but it could put diplomatic pressure on israel to deescalate the conflict in the uk. rishi sunak and sir keir starmer are under growing pressure to change their position on the war. this is gb news live across the uk. that's it from me for the moment. now it's back to . mark nice to have it's back to. mark nice to have aaron with us this evening on a

friday night. >> he's back in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. the weekend starts here. welcome one and all. boris johnson joins gb news. i'll get reaction from tv news legend nicholas owen and i'll be reacting to this story with my pundits at 1030. yes, the papers are coming in as well with full reaction from tonight's panel. former labour adviser paul richards , adviser paul richards, broadcaster david oldroyd bolt and journalist jasmine birtles. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day. a packed hour. page zeroes of the day. a packed hour . and those papers page zeroes of the day. a packed hour. and those papers are coming. but first, my take. hour. and those papers are coming. but first, my take . at coming. but first, my take. at ten oh, dear reporting the news isn't easy, is it? the poor old bbc struggled to come up with the right words to describe an organisation that annihilates 260 revellers at a music festival , burns people alive and festival, burns people alive and beheads babies , as you and me beheads babies, as you and me know them as terrorists . but

know them as terrorists. but they came up with militants , they came up with militants, which conjures images of principled gunmen, heroic freedom fighters. in doing so, the bbc caused anger, upset and distress among the 300,000 jewish people in this country who are british and who last time i checked, also paid the licence fee. to make matters worse, our wonderful holier than thou state broadcaster , this thou state broadcaster, this global beacon of truth, decided it was israel that bombed a gaza hospital, tragically killing 300 people. the news that spread like wildfire globally , handing like wildfire globally, handing hamas a propaganda coup and leading to an explosion in anti—semitic hate and likely further jewish casualties around the world. the only problem is that israel did not blow up the hospital. that's awkward for the beeb, isn't it? and you can put paid to the idea that the bbc is respected and trusted globally after a television sketch show in israel this week had a rather a lot of humour at the bbc's expense. take a listen . good expense. take a listen. good

evening from london. >> here are some news from the war in gaza. >> israel has bombed a hospital, killing hundreds of innocent people . more and killing hundreds of innocent people. more and more , much people. more and more, much better . with more details, our better. with more details, our middle east correspondent harry white. guilt. >> good evening, rachel . >> good evening, rachel. >> good evening, rachel. >> from the illegal colony of tel aviv. israeli officials has denied bombing the hospital , but denied bombing the hospital, but we have video footage showing what really happened . and indeed what really happened. and indeed . absolutely shocking. >> harry. >> harry. >> devastating, but brilliant satire. props to those brilliant performers. meanwhile, even though thousands have been marching on the streets over the last two weekends, poor old itv news clearly struggled to find a palestinian guest for one of their programs to talk about the very real and concerning issue of islamophobia in this country. i've got to say, this woman's

testimony to the channel brought a tear to my eye as she talked about her miserable life subjected to relentless hate for her religion. terribly appalling, but not as appalling as giving this woman a platform as giving this woman a platform as it's revealed her name is latifa abu shaqra , and she's a latifa abu shaqra, and she's a mouthpiece for a pro hamas propaganda show called palestine declassed side. this is a woman who described the horrific october the seventh attack on israel as a moment of triumph and a homecoming. this show airs on the hamas loving terror supporting press tv, who are owned by the iranian regime and who are not allowed to broadcast on british tv , not allowed to on british tv, not allowed to broadcast on british tv, but one of its most vocal stars, obviously allowed on itv might be time for air to have a word with their booking team. so you see this newsgathering is difficult , isn't it? it's so difficult, isn't it? it's so hard not to make clumsy mistakes or accidentally parrot narratives verbatim, perpetuate

myths, prolong prejudice and get things wrong. so what are we to do if we can't trust what we're watching and what we're listening to? pretty easy. tune in to mark dolan tonight, the home of diverse opinion. the home of diverse opinion. the home of diverse opinion. the home of free speech. and wherever humanly possible, the home of the truth. and no guests grabbed off a propaganda terrorist supporting tv channel on the internet at unlike our rivals , mark dolan tonight rivals, mark dolan tonight delivers the balance of news that you can trust . take my word that you can trust. take my word for it . your that you can trust. take my word for it. your reaction to that you can trust. take my word for it . your reaction to the for it. your reaction to the rather shambolic efforts of mainstream media to cover the israel story ? we mark gbnews.com israel story? we mark gbnews.com is the address or get to your emails very shortly but reaction now from three good friends of mine former labour special adviser paul richards, broadcaster and historian david oldroyd bolts and journalist and author and presenter jasmine birtles. i should add. she's the

founder of the excellent money consumer website money magpie .co.uk. is it either.com.com. she's got it all covered. david your reaction to the bbc deciding israel bombed a hospital while only apologising days later for an itv platforming ? a days later for an itv platforming? a pro—hamas propagandist ? propagandist? >> i think this is the absolute exemplar of what happens when you believe that the there is an oppressor and there are the oppressed and you have to find voices for the oppressed rather than looking at the situation and thinking there is a country, and thinking there is a country, a democratic country that has been attacked by a terrorist organisation. an and there is that democratic country defending the way it defending itself in the way it has the right do not only has the right to do not only under international law, but morally. think it shows morally. and i think it shows the bbc up for what it is, which is a quite crazy is a really quite crazy institution comes to institution when it comes to these sorts of questions . the these sorts of questions. the fact that the bbc got this wrong, doubled down on it and took so very long to correct the

record is shameful, as is the fact that it took essentially the diktat of parliament for the bbc to decide that it would call hamas a terrorist organisation, but in fact not calling them a terrorist organisation using the churlish, mealy mouth phrase that this is a state proscribed terrorist organisation. that sort of clumsy thing that says, well, look, we don't really believe that they are, but we've been they are so been told to say they are so really sorry. hamas and as for itv, well, itn we should say, that's just deeply embarrassing and as you say, they need to have a word with whoever booked that richards , great that guest, paul richards, great to back on show . to have you back on the show. >> pointing out >> look, it's worth pointing out that bbc and itv have that both the bbc and itv have distanced themselves from these mistakes . they've made an mistakes. they've made an apology. the bbc will argue that they're for hundreds they're responsible for hundreds of hours of reporting a week, thousands a month, hundreds of thousands a month, hundreds of thousands of hours a year. itv news as well. everyone makes mistakes . but what's what's the mistakes. but what's what's the problem ? what's the story? problem? what's the story? what's your view ? what's your view? >> well, i am a fan of the bbc, as you well know. but i think on these got it

these occasions they just got it horribly . and the problem horribly wrong. and the problem is they got wrong is not that they got it wrong and had apologise , guys. and then had to apologise, guys. it's reverberations of that it's the reverberations of that report all over the world where it then goes around as being truth and fills this narrative that the israelis are bombing hospitals when it was plainly not the case. and it feeds into what we know as the blood libel. you know, this idea that jews historically have murdered children and itjust feeds historically have murdered children and it just feeds this hate it feeds this anti—semitism all the world. so the bbc, all over the world. so the bbc, you know, is a good institution, but it has to be super careful in these heightened times as not to make the kind of really stupid mistake that on stupid mistake that it made on that stupid mistake that it made on thajasmine birtles it's >> jasmine birtles it's interesting , isn't it? because, interesting, isn't it? because, you notwithstanding my you know, notwithstanding my criticisms of the organisation, it probably is still the most trusted gal bearer of news on the planet. i can't think of a more sort of reliably trusted platform than the bbc, but they make mistakes, of course they do. they've said in regards to whether hamas are terrorists or

not, that it's critical they don't take sides, which has been their position in for decades now . now. >> well, absolutely. and it is very difficult in this particular case not to take sides or not to be perceived to be taking sides. it really is something where it's nuanced and it's very difficult to be allowed to be nuanced here. and to say, well, on the one hand here, but on the other hand there i think the problem both with with the bbc and itv and media organisations generally is, is a fundamental well, it's rather like david said, it's a fundamental wokeness of so very many of the people who work there. so that the original thought immediately is that that there are people who are oppressed and that we must go on and go on about that level of oppression . and there are all oppression. and there are all sorts of different levels of oppression. so if that is what you're starting from, then it's, it's going to be very difficult for you to be genuinely

balanced. i think i love my pundits tonight. >> we'll be hearing from them at 1030 sharp when the papers come in. but next up , boris johnson in. but next up, boris johnson joins gb news. i'll be getting reaction from tonight's newsmaker, legendary news broadcaster nicholas owen . broadcaster nicholas owen. that's next. boris is coming to gb. we'll talk about

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it's time now for the results of another mark dolan tonight people's poll following mistakes in their reporting on israel. >> do you still trust mainstream news? the results are in and unfortunately, 79% say no, you do not trust the mainstream media. 21% say yes , they do . media. 21% say yes, they do. okay, well, it's time now for the newsmaker in which a fearless commentator speaks out on the big issues of the day. and let's get more on the bombshell news that boris johnson, former prime minister of this country, is to join gb news as presenter. let's get news as a presenter. let's get reaction from a legend of television news himself, nicholas owen . nicholas, welcome nicholas owen. nicholas, welcome to mark dolan tonight. what was your reaction when you saw this on your phone or on the newswire when the story pops up ? when the story pops up? >> yeah, i think i was glaring down at a computer screen at the time. i think my reaction was a bit like i felt like boris himself. golly i was amazed, i

have to say, very , very have to say, very, very surprised for quite a large number of reasons, which i'm sure you and i can discuss. mr dolan well, well, indeed. >> so first of all, i mean, is it good news? is it bad news? is it good news? is it bad news? is it is it a positive for the channel? are there any downside sides ? sides? >> oh, well, let's go to the positive side of it. of course. i mean, this man is a major headune i mean, this man is a major headline maker . i mean, this man is a major headline maker. i i mean, this man is a major headline maker . i mean, i mean, this man is a major headline maker. i mean, in his time he's written a lot of pieces which have had the headlines. but along at the top of them, but certainly when he was finally became prime minister for, my goodness, we had a character in downing street. did we not? a great personality an lot of personality and an awful lot of people this man people thought, oh, this man is really , a huge really something, a huge galloping majority got got all those seats that had been labour for so many years and he turned them around and yeah, and he would go running in those terrible shorts as well. yes, i know . so anyway, look fair know. so anyway, all look fair didn't it. and then things of course as they always do for every single prime minister, including even sort of great

heroes of our time like tony blair and whoever else you want to mention. margaret thatcher, things go wrong eventually . and things go wrong eventually. and it didn't look quite so didn't look quite so good. and he struggled. covid came along . uh, struggled. covid came along. uh, and then there's been all the backwash after the business of what's now called partygate. now, i don't know how many of your viewers actually watched the programme. partygate it's gone into the language, hasn't it? but it was taken into a channel 4 programme. i think my wife i sat and watched. i wife and i sat and watched. i think there were two episodes and i frankly, i was appalled by what i saw there. and i'm afraid , boris, you played your part in that. mr sunak , our prime that. mr sunak, our prime minister. you played your part . minister. you played your part. all they haven't denied any of this . so i all they haven't denied any of this. so i think one's views of bofis this. so i think one's views of boris have gone right up by a lot of people come down by a lot of people. but you have a major newsmaker now. you're not sure to them. i know. and some of them make the news for all the

wrong reasons for your channel and dropped you right in it. but it'll be very interesting to see how boris progresses as well. >> i share your measured and balanced attitude to boris johnson. like you say, he makes headunes. johnson. like you say, he makes headlines . he is a very, very headlines. he is a very, very provocative figure and i gave my warts and all account of him at the top of the hour in which i pointed out his failures and his triumphs . pointed out his failures and his triumphs. but pointed out his failures and his triumphs . but nicholas, what triumphs. but nicholas, what doesit triumphs. but nicholas, what does it tell us about the changing media landscape that he should choose a relatively small channel like gb news as his home? >> well, i suppose i would be very interested to know, mark. i mean, i'm very lucky man. nowadays i don't work anymore for the bbc or for itn, although ihave for the bbc or for itn, although i have the greatest respect for both of them. of course , both of them. of course, greatest respect, very difficult for them. but i can more or less say what i want about all these things . i say what i want about all these things. i think that the difficulty with boris is always that of sort of reliability , you that of sort of reliability, you know? i mean, um, yeah , i think

know? i mean, um, yeah, i think he's going to do great things in terms of publicity for you. i'm sure he will. but will he actually turn up at the studio on time? things like , you know, on time? things like, you know, i mean, he's pretty shambolic person, i have to tell you . and person, i have to tell you. and he'd probably be the first to admit it. so i think for your for your channel, it's a coup . for your channel, it's a coup. there's no doubt about that. a lot of people will want to tune in to see what he has to say and hear what he has to say. um, but i sort of think, mark, that, you know, it's for great people like you and i. we get to sit in front of camera, doesn't it? front of the camera, doesn't it? there's nervous there's all those poor nervous types in the types sitting back in the newsroom saying, blimey, where is he ? and i'm is he? where is he? and i'm going quote to now , uh, going to quote to you now, uh, charles was his editor at charles moore was his editor at the daily telegraph for many years , and used to write years, and boris used to write this for which was this column for which he was paid amount of money. a paid a vast amount of money. a quarter £1 million. i don't quarter of £1 million. i don't know him, but know what you're paying him, but never what? what, what the. never mind what? what, what the. charles only that. really. what? even even less than you. god no one's paid less than me.

>> go on. >> go on. >> what charles moore said about bofis >> what charles moore said about boris was the one thing about boris. boris was the one thing about bofis.the boris was the one thing about boris. the one thing you can rely on with boris is you can't rely on with boris is you can't rely on with boris is you can't rely on him . yeah. so in many rely on him. yeah. so in many ways . all right, you're getting ways. all right, you're getting a crackerjack there. you're getting somebody who is bound to provoke an awful lot of controversy , a sort of controversy, a sort of unmissable person , if you like, unmissable person, if you like, on air. and for your channel, for any channel that's that's obviously going to be enormous . obviously going to be enormous. interesting. i i shall i shall be amongst the many viewers absolutely fascinated to see how dear boris, who i've known for a awful long time, i can go right back to the days when he would cycle very precariously through red lights in london with everybody. everybody shouting, boris, boris, when he was the mayor. um oh, it's a coup. there's no doubt you've landed a very, very, very big fish. but mark slippery fish too . so

mark slippery fish too. so interesting. listen i think you should be the next recipe of a gb news contract. >> i've been saying it for a while. i must text the boss about that, nicholas. and i actually. mean that deadly actually. i mean that i'm deadly serious . serious. >> well, every time the postman comes, i look on the mat to see if it's there. dolan so, you know, come i think boris know, come on. i think boris should know, come on. i think boris shoshould be your guest on >> should be your first guest on nicholas owen tonight . speaking. nicholas owen tonight. speaking. speaking the wider speaking about the wider industry. can we talk about ofcom now? ofcom is the government body who regulate broadcasting and rightly so . broadcasting and rightly so. they do a good job, an important job. and there's talk of ofcom regulating the internet is that a good idea ? a good idea? >> it would be a great idea if it was possible . i just i read it was possible. i just i read that and i and i've looked into that and i and i've looked into that quite a bit and read. read what ofcom is supposed to do. i find myself in an interesting position here. mark in that a lot of colleagues i've known down the broadcasting years have ended up with ofcom shape ended up with ofcom in one shape or they're all very, or form and they're all very, very and very, very bright

very good and very, very bright people i get into an people. i mean, get into an argument and discussion with some old chums now some of my old chums who now work and they've got work for ofcom and they've got all got a lot all the they've got a lot of answers which people like me find. quite, quite, find. they're quite, quite, quite good at sort of fending off criticism and so on. but my criticism is quite simple . the criticism is quite simple. the internet is going in so many different directions. i mean , different directions. i mean, when we talk about internet , do when we talk about internet, do we just mean little ? the what is we just mean little? the what is now looks very old fashioned or do we mean tiktok do we mean yeah, face? do we mean x or whatever it's called now? do we mean any number of other channels that are bursting on the scene all the time ? i keep the scene all the time? i keep reading almost every day. i open my paper and i see that there's some new form of communication, uh, in in intelligence . you uh, in in intelligence. you know, artificial intelligence is creeping over. are they going to be trying to monitor that as well? would be a great idea . well? it would be a great idea. it would be lovely if we could somehow bring to bear the sort of pressures that gb news has been under. a lot. i know, but. but you know, fair dos, you're

out there in the marketplace . out there in the marketplace. you're putting yourself out there. you're going to shot there. you're going to be shot at. to be an ofcom at. you're going to be an ofcom are coming down. whether you think not. but when think it's fair or not. but when it the internet , it's it comes to the internet, it's like going out onto a grouse moor with a with a peashooter and are going in all and the birds are going in all different directions . different directions. >> uh, so you write a couple of dead ducks along the way. nicholas it's always a privilege to have you on the show. keep an eye contents of that eye on the contents of that letter because some letter box because some correspondents might with correspondents might be with you soon. so. soon. i certainly hope so. my thanks you. television news thanks to you. television news legend nicholas owen. well, thanks to you. television news legenlwe'veolas owen. well, thanks to you. television news legenlwe'veolas lotsen. well, thanks to you. television news legenlwe'veolas lots morelll, thanks to you. television news legenlwe'veolas lots more to folks, we've got lots more to come, including tomorrow's papers with full pundit reaction and some cracking headlines, including the blonde bombshell himself. see you

you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> lovely to have your company look. so many emails coming in. apologies i've not had as much time for your emails as usual. so much to talk about. so many big stories, but i'll get to your emails presently. but first it's time for this . thank you, it's time for this. thank you, jonathan bringing us the papers. and we start with the times . and we start with the times. iran hijacking uk protests. iranian agents are creating unrest in britain by stoking gaza protests. senior police have said as they prepare for a fresh round of demonstrations tomorrow . so mandelson married tomorrow. so mandelson married at 72. peter mandelson and renaldo avila , da silva said, renaldo avila, da silva said, i

do today, the labour peer explains why they waited so long. congratulations on his nuptials and let me tell you, he does not look 70. he iweekend always a good read. gaz a blackout as israel launches on slaught israeli military warns ground operations in gaza strip except landing internet and mobiles cut off as israel defence forces unleash the heaviest aerial bombardments so far . un warns heaviest aerial bombardments so far. un warns basic heaviest aerial bombardments so far . un warns basic services far. un warns basic services have collapsed and disease is spreading. troops mass on border . as the idf say, we are prepared on all fronts. of course, that's the israeli military mortgage rates could fall below 4% next year. here's hoping . and in the middle east, hoping. and in the middle east, starmer faces crisis as party rebels call for ceasefire, which was the topic of my big opinion, which i'm delighted to say that joe in our digital team has crafted into an excellent video . crafted into an excellent video. he's also putting the boris monologue out and also my take

at ten daily telegraph next, israel's ground forces advance on gaza and kemi badenoch the business and trade secretary. it's good to be back in britain. also mayor khan's call for ceasefire piles pressure on starmer over divisions in laboun starmer over divisions in labour. well, we called it all at nine, didn't we, folks? and 7:00 pm excuse me, £7 million taxpayer bill for speakers house refurbishment. that's right. the speakers refurbishment. that's right. the speaker's house in the commons it's costing £7 million. your money and mine to fix daily mirror. now imminent invasion, fear, carnage looms. israel ramps up attacks on gaza. the guardian no fuel, no power, nowhere safe life on the streets of gaza . and how about this? the of gaza. and how about this? the guardian writing about us. there's a surprise . boris there's a surprise. boris johnson to join gb news as a tv presenter . also, taylor swift, presenter. also, taylor swift, now a billionaire after record breaking tour , daily star breaking tour, daily star oddball terrorised village in

cut price clobber from the store. the asda, a man held for being a suspected, told cops , being a suspected, told cops, i'm not a. i'm not wearing a suit. joshua hunt, who made his bargain suit from gear he bought at asda , was fined for scaring at asda, was fined for scaring drivers. well, i think his normal face is already quite terrifying and those are your front pages ? well folks, let's front pages? well folks, let's get full pundit reaction now. loving the dream team tonight, the a—team. folks, we're going to give the show a lick of paint in the next few weeks. greg, myself, james and ben and the boss. we're going to have new titles and a little bit of different stuff behind me and around me. what do you think i should call the pundits? should i call them the panel? should i call them the pundits? what about know about the a—team? let me know what think. i should call my what you think. i should call my trio mark trio of geniuses. mark gbnews.com tonight, my trio of genii are labour special advisor paul richards, former i should say, although never say never brought master and historian david aldridge. bolton

journalist, author and presenter jasmine birtles says listen, let's have a look at some of these stories. first of all, can we just start? it's a friday. can we have some good news? peter married at peter mandelson gets married at the do you know the age of 70. paul do you know mr mandelson? >> i do. and i'm absolutely delighted this mean, delighted by this news. i mean, there couple, and there a long term couple, and i've 30 years, i've known peter for 30 years, but point earlier is, but your point earlier is, doesn't look amazing? yeah, doesn't he look amazing? yeah, he mean, he really does. i mean, obviously day. obviously is his wedding day. he's chap, but he is he's a happy chap, but he is just sprightly and just so sprightly and young and with his clothes are with it and his clothes are fabulous looks great. and fabulous and he looks great. and good to him, you know? good for him. wonderful. good to him, you know? good for him. still wonderful. good to him, you know? good for him. still hasiderful. good to him, you know? good for him. still has political >> and he still has political currency, doesn't he? >> yes. he's got >> huge amount. yes. he's got enormous. around enormous. he's been around since the and certainly through the 70s and certainly through the 70s and certainly through the and and keir starmer the 80s and 90s and keir starmer listens we listens to him, as do we all. >> indeed. well, that's it. i mean, felt the hand mean, have you felt the hand of tony blair and peter mandelson on starmer's leadership and let's the last 12 months, let's say the last 12 months, because i think struck because i think he's struck quite a different note. i would suggest he's shifted into the centre he's learned from the >> i think he's learned from the experience of previous labour governments, always governments, which is always a wise do and of course wise thing to do and of course there are lots of voices that are influencing him, but you

know, he is his own man he know, he is his own man and he knows that the next election is not same as 1997. spice not the same as 1997. spice girls the charts. we not the same as 1997. spice girls have the charts. we not the same as 1997. spice girls have pages.e charts. we not the same as 1997. spice girls have pages. you arts. we not the same as 1997. spice girls have pages. you know, 'e not the same as 1997. spice girls have pages. you know, it don't have pages. you know, it is a different era. but he is listening those that won. and listening to those that won. and why indeed? why wouldn't you indeed? >> a look now >> listen, let's have a look now at of these other stories. at some of these other stories. and jasmine garsd, blackout as israel onslaught israel launches onslaught and a debate , a debate in the country, debate, a debate in the country, a debate around the world, and a debate papers about debate in the papers about whether good or a bad whether this is a good or a bad thing. you the daily thing. you know, the daily telegraph quite , quite telegraph is quite, quite bullish this on this bullish on this on this particular manoeuvre. but then you've got the left leaning guardian , no fuel, no power, guardian, no fuel, no power, nowhere safe life on the streets of gaza, strikes . a judgemental of gaza, strikes. a judgemental note on what israel is doing . note on what israel is doing. well, absolutely. note on what israel is doing. well, atyoultely. note on what israel is doing. well, atyou do y. note on what israel is doing. well, atyou do see that, as you >> and you do see that, as you say, the left leaning papers are judgemental this. and the judgemental of this. and the wording, as you say, that's being used . and the onslaught, being used. and the onslaught, for mean , the i paper for example, i mean, the i paper that's leaning well . so that's left leaning as well. so there is they're trying not to because they know that there's been such carnage in in israel. they're trying to not look like

it. but but they basically don't like israel and that does come across , frankly. across, frankly. >> indeed. and you've got that partisan language. you're right to it out. i mean, to point it out. i mean, private, i last week had a front page, which offended many jewish people. the front page went on twitter and was viewed million twitter and was viewed 3 million times, not because i think it was that popular. right sometimes things go viral for the wrong reasons, which i speak sometimes things go viral for the vpersonalions, which i speak sometimes things go viral for the vpersonal experience,i speak sometimes things go viral for the vpersonal experience, buteak sometimes things go viral for the vpersonal experience, but i|k from personal experience, but i think it's because many people, jewish people, felt gaslit by the media commentary of what's happening . and it's very much up happening. and it's very much up in the air now about whether israel have a perceived right to defend themselves. >> well, that's it. and to be honest, i think, you know, what does actually constitute defence? and that's a difficulty for everybody. i think , because for everybody. i think, because does defence involve attacking? because sometimes it does us and that's, that's the problem that we see here. i think everybody would would assume, yes, it is right for israel to defend itself . and then you say, well, itself. and then you say, well, how should you do that? should

that include attacking those that include attacking those that they think will will attack them too? >> right. david, you're a top historian. i've described hamas and their their attitudes, their actions as rebadged . what does actions as rebadged. what does history tell us about what israel are currently doing as we speak ? speak? >> well, i think there's a very good comparison to be drawn with serbia in 1914 and the reaction of austria, hungary, serbia by killing the archduke franz ferdinand committed an act of terrorism in order to elicit from austria—hungary an enormous response that serbia knew would get it sympathy . i mean, serbia get it sympathy. i mean, serbia was essentially run by a gang of terrorists at this time. the people who assassinated king alexander in 1903 were running the country for the 11 the country for the next 11 years. a terrorist years. hamas is a terrorist organisation that committed years. hamas is a terrorist org actsation that committed years. hamas is a terrorist org actsati atrocity committed years. hamas is a terrorist orgactsatiatrocity in committed years. hamas is a terrorist org actsati atrocity in order.mitted an act of atrocity in order. i think, to elicit from israel a strong response. i would like to ask those people who say that israel should not be responding in is, do they hold in the way it is, do they hold the view about ukraine? the same view about ukraine? would that the would they say that the ukrainians not, in ukrainians should not, in defending from defending themselves from russian force russian incursion use force that

could in the destruction of could end in the destruction of russian lives and property and if not draw that if they do not draw that equivalence, is equivalence, why not? why is israel uniquely in the world held to an impossibly high standard standard and standard of moral standard and standard of moral standard and standard of moral standard and standard of restraining civilian casualties ? and i would say that casualties? and i would say that thatis casualties? and i would say that that is simply because these people do not believe that israel has a right to exist and probably because they don't really jews should really believe that jews should be middle east really believe that jews should bethe middle east really believe that jews should bethe first middle east really believe that jews should bethe first place. middle east really believe that jews should bethe first place. and middle east really believe that jews should bethe first place. and soidle east really believe that jews should bethe first place. and so there ast in the first place. and so there is rampant hypocrisy. and i think the wording of the guardian they have no guardian article, they have no control israeli war control over the israeli war waged the waged against them. well, the israelis no control over israelis have no control over the hamas attack that been the hamas attack that has been waged as they have no waged on them as they have no control the constant control over the constant bombardment with missiles that most live with. i most israelis live with. and i think those responsible for that guardian headline step guardian headline need to step back have a look at their back and have a look at their preoccupation with israel compared nations in compared with other nations in the world and think why that is. and whether they in this and whether they are, in this instance, phrase in instance, right to phrase it in such a way. instance, right to phrase it in suci a way. israel are between >> i mean, israel are between a rock and a hard place, aren't they? paul face they? paul they face an existential from hamas existential threat from hamas who the destruction of all who seek the destruction of all

jews in the region, the elimination of israel . on the elimination of israel. on the other hand, if they defend themselves, which they currently other hand, if they defend therthen es, which they currently other hand, if they defend therthen civilians they currently other hand, if they defend therthen civilians will( currently other hand, if they defend therthen civilians will die. rently are, then civilians will die. well this is the issue, isn't it? >> but i was thinking if this if a terrorist organisation ran wales and wales was, i think it does was dedicated to the destruction drakeford has got. >> he's got a slightly he's got an authoritarian streak , serious an authoritarian streak, serious face. i'm back in the room and they were firing rockets into they were firing rockets into the midlands. >> yeah. and then they massacred people at a peace festival. you know we would go in would we not? we would send some battalions of the coldstream guards in to sort it out and the world would not say, you don't have do that. think have the right to do that. think about civilians. they would about the civilians. they would say you have a right defend say you have a right to defend yourself. why, has yourself. so why, as has been said, hold to a said, do we hold israel to a different standard any other different standard to any other sovereign nation? know, sovereign nation? you know, they have to defend have the right to defend themselves they have to do themselves and they have to do what do to protect what they have to do to protect themselves from a force who wants destroy utterly. wants to destroy them utterly. and about those? wants to destroy them utterly. an(briefly, bout those? wants to destroy them utterly. an( briefly, bou come e? wants to destroy them utterly. an(briefly, boucomee? to >> briefly, i'll come back to you, jasmine. what you, jasmine. but what about those describe gaza as

those that describe gaza as an open they about open prison? they talk about war crimes part of israel and crimes on the part of israel and of effective apartheid. >> well, all of those are false. and if you look at the picture on the front page of the guardian today, where there are pictures of faces behind bars, the the the semiotics of this, the visualisation of this, is that supposedly a popular nation imprisoned. and it's just feeding into this same narrative. we know, you know, pictures are important, aren't they? and there's a deliberate choice the guardian's front choice on the guardian's front page front page to stick that on the front page. it's inflammatory, unnecessary and as we unnecessary, free. and as we say, israel has been held to an entirely different standard to any nation earth , any other nation on earth, including, ukraine, including, for example, ukraine, a good point that you make is gaza open prison? gaza an open prison? >> are israel responsible >> and are israel responsible for an apartheid state? >> gaza is not an open prison. it is a it is a state held captive by a terrorist organisation funded by a terrorist state in iran. and the israeli certainly not an apartheid state. more than 50% of israelis are people of colour. there is a huge arabic population. it is the only functioning democracy in the middle east and to call it an

apartheid state is on the one hand, i think to downplay the true of apartheid in true horror of apartheid in south africa and the other, south africa and on the other, simply throw the strongest simply to throw the strongest rhetorical language possible at israel, because people don't like it. there is no validity to it. and anyone that term it. and anyone using that term should automatically be told to shut . shut up. >> mystifyingly jasmine >> but mystifyingly jasmine hamas are winning the pr war. in a strange and perverse way, they seem to have gained the moral high ground , aided and abetted high ground, aided and abetted by some quarters of the press. >> very much so, yes. i >> well, very much so, yes. i definitely think that . and there definitely think that. and there is, again , it's a sort of it's is, again, it's a sort of it's you know, a woke stance that you have these certain people , have these certain people, certain peoples who are oppressed and they've managed to get into this this particular area . and one thing that i do area. and one thing that i do feel about this, this attack is that it's come at a particularly bad time. i think , for left wing bad time. i think, for left wing israeli is because, you know, netanyahu , who has had a lot of

netanyahu, who has had a lot of hatred and pushback from israelis as themselves, particularly those on the left , particularly those on the left, who have been pointing out many of his terrible, much of his terrible behaviour. and now this this attack has actually supported his position . he's supported his position. he's stronger than ever and he should actually be taken to court right now for some of his crimes. i consider. >> well, indeed. and actually , >> well, indeed. and actually, certainly from my own experience of friends and colleagues growing up and current jewish friends that i would argue it's pretty much in the british jewish tradition to be on the left, not, not, not not everyone, butjust left, not, not, not not everyone, but just a left, not, not, not not everyone, butjust a good everyone, but just a good number. it feels like that's the thrust of it. but i know so many jewish people who have become very disillusioned with what you describe the woke in describe as the woke left in their response to what has been a appalling attack a truly appalling terror attack on people . and can we on innocent people. and can we talk about the outrageous cost of the speaker's house refurbishment? jasmine £7 million. now i do like sir lindsay hoyle. i think he's been

a good speaker, less divisive than his predecessor . a good speaker, less divisive than his predecessor. but a good speaker, less divisive than his predecessor . but we're than his predecessor. but we're not made of money, are we? i mean, what do you think about that? would you could you could you spend £7 million on your house? >> well, you could give me 7 million. i'm very happy to. but no, i mean, really, like i'd no, i mean, really, i'd like i'd like where he's getting like to see where he's getting his gold plated. >> it's not his house. >> it's not his house. >> no, no. >> no, no, no. >> no, no, no. >> the point. >> this is the point. >> this is the point. >> i mean, you've been it. >> i mean, you've been in it. i'm it's museum. it i'm sure it's a museum. it belongs to nation. and £7 belongs to the nation. and £7 million not that bad. million is not that bad. a historic building. >> moreover, grade >> and moreover, it's grade one listed, means it is listed, which means that it is the every tiny the requirement for every tiny detail to be done to the standard historic buildings. standard of historic buildings. is suite of is exceptional. it's a suite of state rooms, of offices . it is. state rooms, of offices. it is. would we rather that we spent the money on this and kept it from falling into the thames? or would we rather in 50 or 100 years look back and think, years time, look back and think, i that i wish we'd spent that relatively on relatively paltry amount on keeping extraordinary keeping this extraordinary historic building? keeping this extraordinary hisiwell, uilding? keeping this extraordinary hisiwell, iilding? keeping this extraordinary hisiwell, i don't? keeping this extraordinary hisiwell, i don't mind them sort keeping this extraordinary hisfixing i don't mind them sort keeping this extraordinary hisfixing i don"in1ind them sort keeping this extraordinary hisfixing i don"in the them sort keeping this extraordinary hisfixing i don"in the ceilingort of fixing cracks in the ceiling and dealing with the mice. >> but the telegraph understand, paul >> but the telegraph understand, paul, that some of the money has been spent on silvennare for cutlery goodness sake.

cutlery for goodness sake. >> it's not his, is it? it's the nation. yes. all the visiting people that go through that building every single day from heads of state to tourists, who else enjoy the surrounds? else will enjoy the surrounds? why but it's going to be why not? but it's going to be tough those people who why not? but it's going to be touwstruggling hose people who why not? but it's going to be touwstruggling to ie people who why not? but it's going to be touwstruggling to pay >ople who why not? but it's going to be touwstruggling to pay their who are struggling to pay their mortgage. >> know, are, you >> you know, we are, as you know, in a cost living know, in a cost of living crisis, the mortgage rates are going up. a lot of people are looking now. looking at repossessions now. i think, you know, the next. so it's tricky like it's a tricky one. it's like when spend millions when the royals spend millions on this, that and the other and you say, well, it's not theirs. but also the point is, but yeah, but also the point is, david, if we were doing david, that if we were doing this in our own homes, we would speak to several contractors. >> the cheapest price, >> we'd get the cheapest price, wouldn't we? possibly a recommendation neighbour. recommendation from a neighbour. >> neighbour to know that >> neighbour we to know that that occurred in this that has not occurred in this instance. yeah. >> mean can i just tell you, >> i mean can i just tell you, i'm sure. i'm not sure. >> by the way, take this >> by the way, i take this argument are argument that people are suffering cost living suffering in a cost of living crisis. the nation crisis. therefore the nation needs be parsimonious with needs to be parsimonious with national two national heritage. there are two entirely well. >> mind them putting >> i don't mind them putting a bit lacquer on the front bit of lacquer on the front doon bit of lacquer on the front door, more than £7,500 was

door, but more than £7,500 was spent on new mattress cases and bedding for sir lindsay's residents bedding for sir lindsay's resiwell, a half grand. >> well, seven and a half grand. i >> well, seven and a half grand. | , >> well, seven and a half grand. i , i hope he sleeps well i mean, i hope he sleeps well because let's hope so. >> you an invite and >> let's get you an invite and you have look around. you can have a look around. >> time you're at >> yes. next time you're at dinner, you can us. mark, dinner, you can tell us. mark, can i mean, look, my can i just say i mean, look, my parsimonious i parsimonious panel, i, i recently purchased a mattress topper argos and it works a topper from argos and it works a treat . treat. >> good for you. >> good for you. >> about £50. you put it on top of a crappy old mattress and it's like a new bed . let me tell it's like a new bed. let me tell you that. there are other shops available selling excellent products like that. next at home, sainsbury's . i'll do them. home, sainsbury's. i'll do them. who else? greg. who do you like? john many john lewis. there are so many good shops. only are i went good shops. not only are i went to there are lots of to argos, but there are lots of options. highly recommended. mattress memory foam. oh, mattress topper memory foam. oh, i'll you . i'll tell you. >> you live in luxury. >> you live in luxury. >> great night's sleep. okay folks, listen, we've got lots more get through this. more to get through after this. my the a—team, the my pundits are the a—team, the dream team will be nominating their headline heroes and back page their headline heroes and back page of the day. plus, page zeroes of the day. plus, more reaction the news that more reaction to the news that bofis more reaction to the news that boris johnson has joined gb news more reaction to the news that boritomorrow'sas joined gb news more reaction to the news that boritomorrow's expressi gb news more reaction to the news that bori tomorrow's express with news more reaction to the news that bori tomorrow's express with aews and tomorrow's express with a cracking headline. see you .

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says mark's mates. nice one. well, they are my mates, let me tell you, richard. another richard them muppets , richard called them muppets, especially the supporters especially the labour supporters . that's very unfair. mark dolan tonight is the home of diverse opinion, don't you know? how about karen? call them the gbs . about karen? call them the gbs. nicely done. we have three amigos from carol glenn on the panel amigos from carol glenn on the panel. beaters >> that's good work. >> that's good work. >> i'll tell you what, this show isn't just thrown together. how about the marksmen? says sarah. yes, class. the three musketeers. take that. the three gbs. that's quite clever , isn't gbs. that's quite clever, isn't it? julie i've been trying to think of a name for your panel. mark i'm thinking the three sages, but i keep mulling it oven sages, but i keep mulling it over. that's not bad. they are sages as well. they're very wise. very excited wise. listen, very excited viewers in regards to boris johnson. lots of people are buzzing about him joining the channel mask . mark, whilst i can channel mask. mark, whilst i can understand why gb news wants bojo, he's clever , witty, very bojo, he's clever, witty, very popular. my reaction is oh no, please, no more of him. deport him if necessary. the question is we get boris's

is will we get boris's true opinion will it be just what opinion or will it be just what carrie tells him to say ? hey, carrie tells him to say? hey, hey, they're not pulling her punches us. your show, punches us. love your show, mark, says camilla is that queen camilla your majesty, thank you so much . she said you could call so much. she said you could call your panel the topical trio. oh there we are. look, i could read these panel names. panel of perfection , the wholesome perfection, the wholesome threesome and lorna the couch, hot potatoes . that might be the hot potatoes. that might be the best so far . listen, there you best so far. listen, there you go. lots of emails to come tomorrow in tonight's show. we're back at nine. but reacting to the big stories of the day, paul richards , david oldroyd paul richards, david oldroyd bolton, jasmine birtles . and the bolton, jasmine birtles. and the express in. let's have a look express is in. let's have a look at what they've got for us. unprecedented bombardment. israeli ground forces expanding activity as full scale invasion looms . and billy connolly, this looms. and billy connolly, this is the headline i was talking about earlier reports of my own demise have been greatly exaggerated . a true comedy icon .

exaggerated. a true comedy icon. okay, time now for my pundits headune okay, time now for my pundits headline heroes and back page zeroes. start with the zeros, paul >> my zero is mark rowley from the metropolitan police, the commissioner of police , for not commissioner of police, for not doing enough to police the demonstrations that are now ruining everyone's saturdays in london. there are clearly chants of jihad, the slogans around eradicating israel and the law is there to protect people. why aren't they making arrests ? aren't they making arrests? >> mark rowley has argued that the law is ambiguous and he needs clarification for his officers. but it's all about opinions. how about your back? page zero. >> david mine is the cabinet secretary. simon case, who was reported in the times today to have texted during july 2020 that boris johnson was of a trump bolsonaro level of madness for wanting to stop us being in lockdown at a time when we knew that there was absolutely no clinical validity for lockdown in. so i think that speaks for itself. >> brilliant nomination. how about nodding your about i can see you nodding your head jasmine, i'm head there, jasmine, and i'm nodding how about nodding along as well. how about your back? zero. your back? page zero. >> well, i've gone for the

entire celebration of halloween. icannot entire celebration of halloween. i cannot stand halloween. i think it's ridiculous . you know, think it's ridiculous. you know, in america , they're set to spend in america, they're set to spend $12 billion this year on halloween . why would you have halloween. why would you have a celebration of all that is miserable, demonic , terrible, miserable, demonic, terrible, dark death disease? the whole lot makes no sense to me. never has done. and also , all that has done. and also, all that plastic rubbish that's going to go into landfill. yes, absolutely . all those horrible absolutely. all those horrible sweets, the whole lot. the whole lot is wrong. >> thanks, but no thanks. okay. how about your headline hero , paul? >> well, indulge me this >> well, indulge me on this one. but the funeral but i went to the funeral yesterday my father in law, yesterday of my father in law, john barnes, and he's not famous and the papers, and he's not in the papers, but he's those quintessential he's one of those quintessential englishmen village englishmen, a decent village dweller . you know, he was dweller. you know, he was a stalwart of the parish council . stalwart of the parish council. he his allotment. he kept he kept his allotment. he kept the years. and the same job for 50 years. and the same job for 50 years. and the of british. so say the best of british. so we say goodbye to yesterday he's goodbye to him. yesterday he's my week. my hero of the week. >> dear john, what did he >> r.i.p. dearjohn, what did he grow in allotment ? >> r.i.p. dearjohn, what did he grow in allotment? do you know? >> sunflowers. he was on >> sunflowers. he was big on sunflowers was wonderful. sunflowers and he was wonderful. yeah. and beans, i remember. well what a nice man, you know?

so sometimes you just have to look. there decency look. there is decency out there. all this . and he there. despite all this. and he was one of the decent ones. most definitely. >> i've got no doubt he'll be greatly missed. and david, your headune greatly missed. and david, your heawell, mine is late ken >> well, mine is the late ken hedges, the last hedges, who was the last surviving the 1968 69 surviving member of the 1968 69 trans arctic exploration, which he was an sas medic who, along with four team—mates, crossed the polar ice cap. the north pole spent 235 days at the north pole spent 235 days at the north pole in pitch black darkness and temperatures of sub 50 c, all without gps drawn only by huskies. he was a remnant of an age when we were truly extraordinary explorers, people who were not cowed by health and safety, and went out to find the most extraordinary we could of this earth also, in this natural earth and also, in doing contributed a great this natural earth and also, in doingto contributed a great this natural earth and also, in doingto ouryntributed a great this natural earth and also, in doingto our understandingeat this natural earth and also, in doingto our understanding of deal to our understanding of that how that climate and how it's changing not only now, but how it has changed over millennia. >> you, he was a >> plus, like you, he was a handsome, buccaneering hero and he gore—tex . he didn't have gore—tex. >> yes. no. and to the end of his he would go out in his life, he would go out in

temperatures down to minus 12, wearing trousers and wearing just canvas trousers and a because he said his a t shirt because he said his thermostat changed thermostat had been changed by thermostat had been changed by the bless him. the experience. bless him. >> that's not the only thing a couple seconds your back couple of seconds for your back for please. for your headline hero, please. >> still be andrew >> it would still be andrew bridgen, who last friday spoke to a pathetically empty house about things that are very serious. and this this , i think, serious. and this this, i think, shows why the whole of parliament needs to be rejigged. >> he wants to know why excess deaths have been almost pandemic levels this year. thank you for your . love the emails, your company. love the emails, love pundits. you love my pundits. see you tomorrow at headliners is next. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office. with the forecast , further the gb news forecast, further rain for many of us rain or showers for many of us this weekend some gusty this weekend with some gusty winds around as well. but there will some brighter will be some drier and brighter interludes, particularly across central parts . now, central and southern parts. now, overnight, we're going to see a continuation of the showers. in fact , an continuation of the showers. in fact, an intensification of the showers across southern showers across some southern and southwestern parts . some longer southwestern parts. some longer spells rain pushing into the spells of rain pushing into the south england south and south—east of england for with gusty winds. for a time with gusty winds. further showery rain pushing into eastern scotland as well as

northern ireland. and in many of these places with the ground very wet, there could be issues by dawn. now we're going to see a mild night because of the gusty wind. but in some of these central parts, northern england into the midlands, east anglia, a patches and some a few mist patches and some colder spots as we start off the weekend. any mist or fog will lift and then some brighter skies for a time. lift and then some brighter skies for a time . moving north skies for a time. moving north across the country to affect parts of wales, the midlands east anglia, parts of northern england into the afternoon. but there'll further persistent there'll be further persistent rain scotland. could rain for eastern scotland. could cause problems at times cause some problems at times this weekend and a upturn in the wet and windy weather then towards the southwest later on that pushes north on saturday night into northern england, northern ireland and much of eastern scotland. once again, further south, the return to sunny spells , but also some sunny spells, but also some blustery showers. the showers heaviest and most frequent around southern and western coasts . we keep the showers coasts. we keep the showers going the south on monday, going in the south on monday, drier colder in the

with very good evening to you. >> i'm aaron armstrong in the gb news room. some breaking news in the middle east tonight. the israeli army has stepped its israeli army has stepped up its ground gaza amid a ground operations in gaza amid a wave intensified attacks on wave of intensified attacks on the enclave. our home and security editor mark white sent this report from tel aviv . this report from tel aviv. >> we're very strong and ominous comments from the israeli prime minister's officials . spokesman minister's officials. spokesman mark regev , who said that hamas mark regev, who said that hamas will suffer israel's wrath tonight , will suffer israel's wrath tonight, that will suffer israel's wrath tonight , that tonight israel tonight, that tonight israel begins its payback . those begins its payback. those comments come as hamas positions come under intense bombardment, air strikes from tanks and artillery, as well as missiles

and fast jets .