now. hitting the headlines right now. this all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs, and of course it's yours . we'll be course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza in a few moments time, we'll be crossing over live to tel aviv to speak to gb news homeland security editor mark white to get latest developments on get the latest developments on israel hamas conflict . israel and the hamas conflict. but first, let's get your latest news headlines tatiana . news headlines with tatiana. nana >> thank you and good afternoon. this is the latest sirens were heard in northern israel. a short time ago as anti—tank missiles were fired at idf personnel near the border with lebanon . tanks and artillery are lebanon. tanks and artillery are responding with fire striking hezbollah military infrastructure in lebanon . infrastructure in lebanon. earlier, israel said its troops are in the field, suggesting a ground offensive in gaza may be in its early stages. the

military's advising residents to relocate immediately . relocate immediately. >> for your immediate safety, we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to temporarily relocate south. >> let me repeat, we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to relocate south immediately . this is a temporary immediately. this is a temporary measure moving back to northern gaza will be possible once the intense hostilities end . intense hostilities end. >> well, large crowds have been marching in london and other cities this afternoon. people have been gathering to demand a ceasefire in the israel—hamas war. will bring you live pictures from central london as we get them. but as we know, protesters have been heard chanting from the river, river to the sea. palestine will be free. that despite controversy around that slogans meaning police were seen violently clashing with pro palestinian protesters close to downing

street. the met police had warned that officers would intervene if people were deemed to be supporting terrorism. meanwhile, the united nations has ovennhelmingly adopted a resolution calling for a humanitarian truce in gaza. the resolution, drafted by arab states, condemns all violence , states, condemns all violence, terror and indiscriminate attacks against palestinian and israeli civilians. it's not binding, but could put diplomatic pressure on israel to de—escalate the conflict. the uk's foreign secretary, james cleverly , says there's no reason cleverly, says there's no reason to believe hamas would observe any ceasefire as he reiterated the uk support for israel. >> we have been focussed throughout on on ensuring the safety where possible, of the british hostages and the british nationals in gaza. we've also been speaking to try and secure their release, but also to have their release, but also to have the humanitarian aid get into gaza. we will continue to pursue those aims and the conversations

that i've had with the israeli government, we have reiterated our support for their right to defend themselves , but also that defend themselves, but also that they do so in accordance with international law . international law. >> in other news, there's no relief in sight to a record backlog of crown court trials . backlog of crown court trials. that's according to the director of public prosecution options, max hill, kc , who's stepping max hill, kc, who's stepping down this month, says a shortage of barristers and judges is clogging up the system. he says cases are at an all time high. and while the judiciary has been expanded slightly, it's not been enough alleviate the enough to alleviate the pressure. figures show pressure. latest figures show more than 65,000 cases are still awaiting trial . a proposal to awaiting trial. a proposal to close rail ticket offices has resulted in the biggest ever response to a public consultation on the rmt union says around 750,000 passengers have had their say ahead of an expected announcement on the future of ticket offices at train stations. the union's head, mick lynch, is warning the government against the closures,

saying that 98% of respondents are opposed to the controversial plan . around £7 million of plan. around £7 million of taxpayers money has been spent on renovations at the speaker's house. lindsay hoyle took office in 2019, and since then, more than £1 million a year has been spent on the property, including on state rooms and offices. the figures , which were revealed in figures, which were revealed in a freedom of information request don't say how much was spent on furnishings compared to structural improvements. however the telegraph understands that . the telegraph understands that. some of the money has been spent on silvennare . it's looking to on silvennare. it's looking to be a dark and gloomy halloween weekend with weather warnings in place for parts england place for parts of england and scotland. warning scotland. a yellow warning covers portsmouth , covers brighton, portsmouth, canterbury with the canterbury and london with the possible of heavy the met possible of heavy rain. the met office says there's a small chance of power cuts as well as flooding delays on public flooding and delays on public transport. warnings also remain in scotland, with some rail services suspended following the damage caused by storm babet ,

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i found out a few weeks ago. so they wiped all of my medical records. they wiped my clinical summaries. there's no information about what happened to me. >> so that's coming up. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news as . so, of course, at gb news as. s0, of course, the big story israel, it's announced it's hit over 150 targets in the last nights in last night's raid on gaza as the operation marks the heaviest bombing of the war so far. palestinian residents of gaza reported clashes with israel, armoured vehicles and infantry overnight in numerous locations in the gaza strip . there are in the gaza strip. there are still 229 hostages held inside gaza. as the situation has been described by many as descending into chaos. well, gb news security editor mark white is live in tel aviv. mark, can you give us an update? what's the latest .

latest. >> well, still fighting and shelling that's going on in gaza as we speak. in fact, throughout the day , there have been the day, there have been airstrikes and artillery fire directed towards northern gaza . directed towards northern gaza. we're told that there are israeli forces still on the ground in northern gaza. hamas has said that it has shelled israeli armoured vehicles in northwestern gaza. we've been unable to independently verify that. certainly on the briefing, the last briefing that was given by the israeli defence forces , by the israeli defence forces, senior commanders, he said that no , no israeli forces had been no, no israeli forces had been injured or killed as a result of the operations overnight. the israeli defence force minister, the israeli defence minister , the israeli defence minister, says that this is a new phase in the war that they have entered and they will continue on with this intensity location of the airstrikes and the ground level incursion until they have a new

order and it's not just the operations in gaza . we're seeing operations in gaza. we're seeing increased activity on israel's northern border with lebanon, with hezbollah positions in southern lebanon, firing anti—tank missiles and also more mortar rounds towards the israeli military position . towns israeli military position. towns near the border with lebanon. the israeli military have been responding with artillery fire on those positions and also renewed activity in in syria with targets there. the israeli military says that have been firing missiles towards israel and also to us bases in syria that have come under renewed attack despite an operation by the us just yesterday to attack a couple of military positions unked a couple of military positions linked to the iranian islamic is

iranian military there and their proxies , which is also in syria proxies, which is also in syria and south eastern syria ? and south eastern syria? >> mark, can i ask you, though, inside israel, because you're there in tel aviv , what is the there in tel aviv, what is the response been like ? because a response been like? because a lot of the west are calling or talking about a ceasefire and i'm wondering what the energy is like in tel aviv and what people are thinking when they're heanng are thinking when they're hearing members of, you know, the west saying that perhaps we should have a ceasefire now, it was voted for. well there are many here in israel understand , many here in israel understand, who just want the ground war to start. >> and for the military to get in there and to destroy hamas . in there and to destroy hamas. however, there was a poll that that was just conducted and the results shared yesterday, which showed those surveyed , about showed those surveyed, about half the people surveyed want a

pause in that ground war. they don't want that to begin just yet because of the fact that there are at least 229 hostages still being held by hamas and they want time to be given to negotiations to allow those hostages to be freed, if that's at all possible. we have heard from israeli defence sources that the escalation in the activity in gaza overnight in terms of the ground incursions and the air strikes was taken because of feedback from diplomats on those negotiations to free hostages , which seem to to free hostages, which seem to suggest that actually that was stalling , that hamas was just stalling, that hamas was just playing for time and a decision was taken to intensify the campaign against hamas. >> well, mark, thank you very much for that. we will catch up with you throughout the show. you're seeing pictures from, i think egypt towards gaza. think from egypt towards gaza. so you can see what's happening

there. this is gb news. that's mark white. he's our security editor. we will catch up with him throughout the show. but i'm also now joined uri geller, also now joined by uri geller, who is a performer and a mystifier. there tel mystifier. and he's there in tel aviv . uri, so talk to me aviv now. uri, so talk to me about how you're faring up and the people around you because of course, this is this is happening. it's a war. and of course, you're are in it. you're in the midst of it. >> okay, nana, first of all, again, thanks for having me on your show. believe it or not, i had an entire family visit. my museum today. so there are people who are going out and about shopping. but please allow me to go back a few weeks and nana, you know, the hamas attack on israel on the 7th of october is the same as if 10,500 people in the uk were massacred in a single attack. what do you think the british government would do? i mean, israel goes out of its way to avoid civilian casualties

on the palestinian side, but it is inevitable that many will be killed because hamas hides behind civilians. it uses palestinians as human shields. now hamas knows that israel is too humane to touch it. can you imagine? just imagine this nana. can you imagine britain allowing terrorists to fire rockets from the chelsea and westminster hospital or the saint army street hospital this is what israel is dealing with. and do not forget that more than half of the 220 hostages, maybe even more , are citizens of other more, are citizens of other countries. but where is the un? where are the un? where are the governments ? where are the governments? where are the people ? there should be people? there should be demonstrations worldwide died for the hostages, but the silence is deafening .

silence is deafening. >> do you think that a lot of people in the west who are calling for a ceasefire are actually quite naive because , actually quite naive because, you know, a pause in the fighting and a ceasefire are totally different things. so do you people saying you think that people are saying , ceasefire? it's , oh, ceasefire, ceasefire? it's a very naive to go and that a very naive way to go and that would never happen . would never happen. >> well, i would call it more than naive because the atrocities, the murder , the atrocities, the murder, the butchering, the slaughter of what happened here. you know what, nana, if you have guts after this conversation , then after this conversation, then i'm going to send you a film thatis i'm going to send you a film that is still not circulating . i that is still not circulating. i dare you to sit down and watch it. so this is what we are going through and people around the world, they don't see these pictures yet. the photographs, the films . but it's going to it the films. but it's going to it has to come out. we have to show the world what happened here. hamas is isis worse than isis? >> well, i mean, tomorrow i'll be having ellen lavie on. he's the man who hosted the press conference to show some of the

images because there seemed to be denial or so he be almost a denial or so he said, he felt that about the said, or he felt that about the atrocities that were causing and people seemed over concerned about happening gaza about what's happening in gaza rather than remembering what happened on the 7th of october as well. but i want to quickly talk about the noticed talk to you about the we noticed that thankfully the israelis still a sense of humour still have a sense of humour because had spoof about because you had a spoof about the bbc. >> hm yes. and it's an amazing spoof. i know the people who did it. i know the actors as and sadly , sadly, nana. it's sadly, sadly, nana. it's absolutely true. yeah it's pretty sad. >> we'll have to show it now. >> we'll have to show it now. >> now you have to show that spoof >> oh yeah. we're going to play a little bit of that throughout the show just just for laugh . the show just just for a laugh. uri always pleasure. uri geller, always a pleasure. thank you take care. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that is uri geller. he's there tel he's there live in tel aviv. he's a performer mystifier . i'm performer and a mystifier. i'm now joined by military historian and defence analyst newton and defence analyst chris newton . chris, thank you so much for joining with your joining me. so with your observation and obviously the historical knowledge that you have is this almost a lot of

people are making comparisons with what the did to the to the to the jewish people years ago. is that a fair comparison to make ? m ake? >> make? >> well , good afternoon, anna. >> well, good afternoon, anna. >> well, good afternoon, anna. >> well, good afternoon, anna. >> well , i mean, certainly the >> well, i mean, certainly the goal of hamas is to destroy the state of israel. >> and it is an anti—semitic organisation . and so from there organisation. and so from there on, there , the you know, you on, there, the you know, you have the comparisons and they play have the comparisons and they play into anti—semitic tropes and so forth . i suppose the key and so forth. i suppose the key difference is that, you know, germany was a was a state with a full military , um, and hamas full military, um, and hamas and, and the affiliated terrorist militant groups are non—state actors are terrorists . non—state actors are terrorists. and therefore this is a very different kind of war is a counterinsurgency is a counter—terrorist operation as opposed to a state on state

conflict. >> and your thoughts on the strategy of the israelis ? i strategy of the israelis? i mean, are they wise to get on to the ground in gaza quickly or , the ground in gaza quickly or, you know, as we know, the sort of hamas metro or the gaza metro, as they call it, that that would be a big concern , of that would be a big concern, of course, because a lot of those tunnels are deep down, the rockets probably won't impact on them placed in them and they are placed in places where you know, civilians will be there. so in hospitals and things like that. >> yeah. i mean in i mean, they've been given a couple of weeks to gather intelligence and so forth. so, so the ground invasion is, you know , is invasion is, you know, is beginning, you know, you know , beginning, you know, you know, much longer period of time than we first envisaged. but in terms of the strategy and what, seven of the strategy and what, seven of the strategy and what, seven of the 7th of october, ultimately represented was a failure of the previous israeli strategy, which the idf called mowing the grass . so strategy, which the idf called mowing the grass. so in strategy, which the idf called mowing the grass . so in previous mowing the grass. so in previous wars, they just went, went in,

caused a bit of damage, reduced hamas capabilities, and then left it. and they did that on the ground in, say, for example , the ground in, say, for example, 2008 and 2014. and obviously that strategy has not worked . that strategy has not worked. and therefore and the israeli military were thinking about about this even before this in 2020. they were changing their operating concept and doctrine . operating concept and doctrine. so now the goal is the elimination of hamas to go in on the ground with, you know, as as much force as possible go in, given the restrictions . but it given the restrictions. but it comes with risks as well . as you comes with risks as well. as you say, there's you know , a war in say, there's you know, a war in which there's going to be civilian casualties and there's risks of escalations as well with other actors potentially coming in in a bigger way as well. >> and very briefly, the aim of

the israelis is to sort of wipe out hamas , to eliminate hamas , out hamas, to eliminate hamas, the terrorist organisation . does the terrorist organisation. does history tell us that that is actually a possible and achievable goal? i think what they can do is to severely weaken hamas and the parallel always give is, is the campaign against against islamic state, for example , in 2016, 2017 that for example, in 2016, 2017 that also involved a big siege in mosul. >> and what what happened to the islamic state is that it's you know, it was severely reduced , know, it was severely reduced, lost its ability to carry out kind of extremely deadly attacks. was was degraded. but islamic state is still there. it's still exists. and you're still going to get palestinians who believe in fighting israel. and of course, you've got the you've got the west bank as well. and hezbollah in lebanon, too. so so, so, yes, you can i

think you can weaken hamas quite severely and cripple them. but they will still be problems in they will still be problems in the region . the region. >> right. chris, thank you very much for your historical knowledge. that's chris newton . knowledge. that's chris newton. he's a military historian and a defence analyst. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. up next, it's climate control. we're debating were meteorologists correct in their climate predictions ? i'll be climate predictions? i'll be speaking to the director of cop26, lois perry, and senior meteorologist british weather cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanimt british weather cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanim dale ritish weather cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanim dale . tish weather cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanim dale . but weather cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanim dale . but stillther cop26, lois perry, and senior meteoroanim dale . but still tor services, jim dale. but still to come, this is an interview you won't want to miss. buck angel. he's a sexual entrepreneur and educator who is concerned with the transitioning of children. in his latest podcast . now, here in his latest podcast. now, here he is speaking to briana, a trans her trans woman who began her medical in at the age medical transition in at the age of 13. yes 13. have a listen . of 13. yes 13. have a listen. >> and so now i'm 22 and i'm like, i have my entire adult life, but i have no sexual function . so so what does that function. so so what does that mean in a relationship now? i

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weeknights. >> it's fast approaching. 25 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's now time for climate control. and i'm asking , were control. and i'm asking, were meteorologists correct in their climate predictions? hurricane otis struck mexico's pacific coast on wednesday as reports say that 80% of hotels and streets have been damaged and flooded, with dozens killed . and flooded, with dozens killed. and this is the latest storm that has caused loss of life after storm babet killed three people last week. so were meteorologists correct in their climate predictions? well i'm joined now by senior meteorologist at the british weather services, jim dale and director of car 26 lois perry . director of car 26 lois perry. we're going to start with you, jim dale , seeing as are a jim dale, seeing as you are a meteorologist, jim dale, seeing as you are a meteorologist , gordon, were they meteorologist, gordon, were they correct . this meteorologist, gordon, were they correct. this particular storm, hurricane otis , intensified hurricane otis, intensified dramatically, unlike like virtually every other hurricane has ever been due to, very hot

waters off that coast in mexico and to be frank with you, meteorologists were not on top of it. >> why? because it is one of the factors of climate change that these intense storms happen kind of out of the blue in a way. and thatis of out of the blue in a way. and that is one of the results of climate change. so this is we're walking in new territory. it's as simple as that. so were they correct? no it was missed, to be honest with you. it was absolutely missed. what absolutely missed. not sure what they could have done about it anyway, was missed. so anyway, but it was missed. so because change. because of climate change. >> it was >> so you're saying it was missed climate >> so you're saying it was missed but climate >> so you're saying it was missed but what climate >> so you're saying it was missed but what else nate >> so you're saying it was missed but what else dide >> so you're saying it was missed but what else did they change, but what else did they miss missed miss then? they may have missed a well, say you go on. >> well, let's say you go on. >> well, let's say you go on. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> obviously >> i mean, obviously there's been activity globally , been lots of activity globally, volcanic eruptions, there's volcanic eruptions, and there's also happening under also been stuff happening under the which have warmed the the oceans which have warmed the seas well. but the point seas up as well. but the point is, i mean, you know, the introduction said, you know, were they right with their meteorological predictions ? but meteorological predictions? but on climate, there is on the climate, there is a difference between them predicting weather, though, and climate. and they get confused . climate. and they get confused. and him, does that and jim, bless him, does that all the time because weather

happens. it's completely unpredictable and mad and wild of the blue. yeah. and you look at it over a 30 year period, you really , really do not say really, really do not say there's a storm here. there's some rain here. this is evidence of climate change. i said this before a couple of weeks ago. the even the ipcc working, working report says that there's been no escalation in weather events or extreme weather events over over a prolonged period . so over over a prolonged period. so everything apparently , according everything apparently, according to jim, is to do with climate change. >> can you respond to that? because the ipcc report did say that there's no real change, as it were. and i know that last week you kind of pooh poohed it and said, you know, no, we talked about nasa. lewis also mentioned said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, d said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, you said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, you said said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, you said , said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, you said , well, said, talked about nasa. lewis also ment on, you said , well, really, hang on, you said, well, really, we should we were talking about storm babet and you said we should ask the people in the store they the store whether they feel the climate change. refer climate change. but i'd refer to you nasa climate change. but i'd refer to you the nasa climate change. but i'd refer to you the ipcc nasa climate change. but i'd refer to you the ipcc probably nasa climate change. but i'd refer to you the ipcc probably have!\sa climate change. but i'd refer to you the ipcc probably have aa climate change. but i'd refer to you the ipcc probably have a bit and the ipcc probably have a bit more more about i'm not more a bit more about i'm not i'm ofsted with nasa and ipcc. >> i'm not quite sure where this

information is coming from. but let's let's make no, let's make something let me just be >> no, no, let me just be straight where information straight where the information came ipcc, came from was formed the ipcc, with regard weather nasa, with regard to weather and nasa, that's what lewis said last week. so that's where it's come from. saying, you know. >> what said. no, >> that's what lewis said. no, she's something she's extrapolated something that then that's that is not true. then that's what the report what it is. the ipcc report is huge. what it is. the ipcc report is huge . i've what it is. the ipcc report is huge. i've read what it is. the ipcc report is huge . i've read most of it, to huge. i've read most of it, to be honest with you. there's no there's no there's no there's no misdirection in here from the ipcc. make it absolutely clear. and thing to say and there's another thing to say . we're talking about we're talking no . we're talking talking no, no. we're talking about and about meteorology and climatology. i know the difference. working difference. i've been working in meteorology for 40 odd years. i know exactly what the difference is and what climate is. i'm not sure a political pundit like yourself, lewis , necessarily. yourself, lewis, necessarily. >> oh, i'm not allowed to have an opinion. >> you're allowed to have an opinion. but you're on my subject. i'm not quite sure where coming where you're coming from, though,not my subject. where you're coming from, tho isn't|ot my subject. where you're coming from, tho isn't youry subject. where you're coming from, tho isn't your predominant >> isn't your predominant subject for subject like predicting for a sporting and betting companies whether rain on whether it's going to rain on match isn't that the match day? no. isn't that the main thing you told me that your company does? >> told me that's one

>> well, you told me that's one of the. >> yeah, one of the. >> yeah, that's one of the. >> yeah, that's one of the. >> we do we're walking >> so what we do we're walking into yeah. that's into marx's yeah. yeah. that's what did a bit of shopping. into marx's yeah. yeah. that's what so,id a bit of shopping. into marx's yeah. yeah. that's what so,id iyeah)f shopping. into marx's yeah. yeah. that's what so,id iyeah . shopping. into marx's yeah. yeah. that's what so,id iyeah . part)ping. okay so, so yeah. part of weather forecasting is to provide to clients who value meteorologists like myself and like others who supply valuable information to many, many different concerns . and that is different concerns. and that is the case. climatologists are slightly different, but you have to cross over. climatology is something that is weather over a longer period of time . longer period of time. >> just be honest. stop, stop, stop it. because stop talking about it. because all you're to you're all you're going to do is you're going spend time explaining going to spend time explaining what without what the difference are without actually itself. want subject itself. so i want to bnng subject itself. so i want to bring you on to climate bring you on to the climate footprint charge diners. footprint charge for diners. they a climate they are now putting a climate footprint charge for us if we go to a restaurant. lois what's your view on this? >> well, i think the most important actually see important thing is actually see the food, miles, we should be eating this is eating locally. i mean, this is just way of them taking just another way of them taking the out diners. really the mickey out of diners. really and money as and making as much money as possible. a woke possible. it's a it's a woke charge. might as well call charge. they might as well call it but the food, miles ,

it that. but the food, miles, are of any are important not because of any co2 , miles, but because co2 emission, miles, but because we should eating locally. we should be eating locally. you know, should having know, we should be having because is fresher. because the food is fresher. there's preservatives . if there's less preservatives. if you're you should be you're in london, you should be having most salmon having london's most salmon like form salmon . if you form and smoked salmon. if you know you should be having engush know you should be having english english cheeses. english wines, english cheeses. that's good. that's what they should be. >> there are other brands >> there are also other brands of salmon available. >> there are also other brands of no, salmon available. >> there are also other brands of no, they'renon available. >> no, they're not. >> no, they're not. >> are. not do >> yes, there are. let's not do that. please won't bring that. please ross, i won't bring you back so i'll give you that. please ross, i won't bring you word. so i'll give you one word. >> and that's choice. so don't disagree actually what you disagree with actually what you said terms you can if said in terms of if you can if you local, eat local, you can shop local, eat local, do it, it's fine. problem do it, it's fine. no problem whatsoever . but this particular whatsoever. but this particular thing that you're referencing is there is a choice you don't need to pay the levy if you don't want to. and those that wish to add a pound or two onto their bills, whatever it is, then then they, you know , you can do they, they, you know, you can do that. but are you in favour of your choice as it is when you fly aircraft? fly an aircraft? >> way, are you in >> by the way, are you in favour. i'm in favour of it. >> i 5- 5— it. >> i it's a great idea >> i think it's a great idea which regularly. which you do regularly. >> when you thailand >> when you went to thailand the other day, you said think

other day, you said you think it's other day. it's a great the other day. >> been a to >> i haven't been for a year to thailand. make something thailand. look, make something clear. there is nothing wrong with flying. it's. it's over flying. problem. it's flying. that's the problem. it's eating beef. obe. >> where do draw line? >> where do we draw the line? what's at >> where do we draw the line? what point? at >> where do we draw the line? what point? many at >> where do we draw the line? what point? many flights, what point? how many flights, how far? how? >> if you if you're flying >> well, if you if you're flying every and every every second day and every second that's second week, then that's probably a bit too many. but i think one year, as think one flight a year, as i do, speaking, chooses do, generally speaking, chooses a . what oh, dear. where a new wife. what oh, dear. where are you going with that? >> no, no. he's been married to his wife, who was from thailand at least ten years. >> yeah. wrong speech . >> yeah. wrong speech. >> yeah. wrong speech. >> wrong speech. right. so listen . yeah. so, like listen. yeah. no, no. so, like to confirm how much is over flying, you think flying flying, then you think flying more as as more than once. but as long as you once year to someone. you go once a year to someone. >> once it's >> i'm not saying once it's within reason. all i would say is this in terms of things like flying, things like eating beef, what what the climate side is looking for is just a reduction of that little bit by little bit. so that well , let's bit. so that well, well, let's take beef. there's two reasons for one, beef is one of for that. one, beef is one of the reasons beef cattle one the reasons beef cattle is one of it puts out much of the reasons it puts out much more other

more co2 than any other food that eat by by far. so it's that we eat by by far. so it's not disputed one little bit now. well, it is. there's another side to it as well. >> it really is . >> it really is. >> it really is. >> well. >> well. >> well, can i i just not stop? >> okay. >> okay. >> is extremely disputed. and >> it is extremely disputed. and actually , it's to do with actually, it's to do with methane , isn't it, or something methane, isn't it, or something to do with that. and i'd and i've met so many much more qualified. i'd hate to say this, but there are people in the world that are more qualified than physicists than you physicists and scientists think that what scientists that think that what you're so wrong. you're saying is so wrong. >> we're talking greenhouse gases. >> we're talking greenhouse gases . we're talking greenhouse gases. we're talking greenhouse gases. we're talking greenhouse gases. there's another side to it well. it as well. >> disputed. it as well. >> there's d. side as >> there's another side to it as well. the side well. and that's the health side , know. well. and that's the health side , whatww. well. and that's the health side , what do you mean, health? >> what do you mean, the health? the health side? >> in doctors? the health side? >> cann doctors? the health side? >> can i doctors? the health side? >> can i justors? the health side? >> can i just say sorry? health is close your is my specialism. so close your beef. close your when it beef. close your mouth when it comes because there's comes to that, because there's certain comes to that, because there's certeyou get in things that you can only get in things like red meat that most people need. so don't with on need. so don't start with me on that of course, that right. so that's of course, that's climate control. what do you and also you think, jim dale and also lewis you much you think, jim dale and also levcoming you much you think, jim dale and also levcoming in you much you think, jim dale and also levcoming in and you much you think, jim dale and also levcoming in and joining much you think, jim dale and also levcoming in and joining me.h for coming in and joining me. but what are your views? gb views this is gb

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and people that i knew had dewbs & co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six good afternoon. >> it's 39 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? it's all good though. i'm nana akua this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. now this is a story that caught my eye. the company meta , which owns social company meta, which owns social media sites, facebook , media sites, facebook, instagram, whatsapp and messenger , is being sued by messenger, is being sued by dozens of us states over claims that young people's mental health has been endangered by instagram over its addictive

nature. a lawsuit filed in a federal court in california has said that meta has harnessed powerful and unprecedented technologies to entice, engage and ultimately ensnare youths and ultimately ensnare youths and teens, prompting the question should people be allowed to sue social media companies for the deterioration of their mental health, or should they just get off the site altogether for. well, joining me now to discuss is lucy beresford. she's a broadcaster psychotherapist . broadcaster and psychotherapist. lucy, nonsense , lucy, this seems a nonsense, right? it's like trying to sue somebody you've got fat somebody because you've got fat from food or from eating too much food or it's their own fault. nobody's forcing consume it. forcing them to consume it. surely >> no, the wrong analogy . >> no, that's the wrong analogy. >> no, that's the wrong analogy. >> see, the analogy you want is tobacco companies. >> the next scandal >> this is the next scandal waiting to happen . the tobacco waiting to happen. the tobacco companies knew what physical impact tobacco and smoking had on their consumers and social media companies also know how addictive their platforms are . addictive their platforms are. and our brains are designed specifically to get very excited

by things that reward us. so if we actually get used to the sound that our phone makes because we get a message or someone dms us or somebody likes or retweets our tweets or x's or whatever they're called. now that actually that is a very pure psychological pattern and, and the big platforms , twitter and the big platforms, twitter in particular know exactly what they're doing because they are commercial companies and therefore you need to do is to hit them where it hurts. now i completely agree with you that we have some personal responsibility for that . if you responsibility for that. if you are finding that your mood decreases or that your mood deepens, darkened because you're using quite a lot of these platforms, then yes, you have that choice. but something has already happened where you're addicted to these platforms and don't forget, there is now a whole generation of people, gen 2 , who have only known life 2, who have only known life online. they're not like you and me, nana , who had to learn how me, nana, who had to learn how to use social media. these are people who have only known

social media. and in a way, that's what we need to be protecting. that's why these states have started suing meta. >> , where does it end? >> but lucy, where does it end? i mean, where does it end , if i mean, where does it end, if you them? it's you can blame them? oh, it's your because my mental your fault. because my mental health because social health because i went on social media, the of media, i made the analogy of food. but loads of food. but there's loads of things that say, things you could do that say, you know, that you that you could say somebody made me do it. the it it. and because of the way it is, it's fault. you is, it's your fault. and you might a dating site might even go on a dating site and, you meet someone on a and, you know, meet someone on a wall mean, wall and blame the site. i mean, how can you go with this? how far can you go with this? surely people have to take on their own personal responsibility and parents need to who are to be the ones who are monitoring children . monitoring the children. >> really interesting example because absolutely, you don't have the corroborative evidence as to what that person really is until you go on a date with them, which is why before you go on take extra on a date, you take extra precaution . you make sure that precaution. you make sure that your a public your first date is in a public place somebody phones place or that somebody phones you they know where you or that they know where you're going. with you're going. similarly with social there are social media, there are certainly things we can be certainly things that we can be doing in terms of limiting our consumption and our exposure to

those platforms. but the problem is that the algorithms that the technology companies know full well is built into their products is very, very addictive in a dangerous level . well, in a dangerous level. well, listen, listen, listen , lucy, listen, listen, listen, lucy, your audio is a bit bit dodgy, so we're going to leave it there. >> but it's really good to hear from you and thank you very much for your view on that. so lucy barroso, a broadcaster barroso, she's a broadcaster and psycho therapist. well, if you just me , this is a gb news. just join me, this is a gb news. we're live tv , online we're live on tv, online and on digital it's just fast digital radio. it's just fast approaching. 44 minutes after 3:00, which means it's time for this political spotlight. this week's political spotlight. and joining to a light and joining me to shine a light on on politics in this country is reform uk spokeswoman for education and family belinda de lucy. belinda is also the former brexit party mep , a campaigner, brexit party mep, a campaigner, a political commentator , a a political commentator, a broadcaster, and perhaps most importantly , the mother of four importantly, the mother of four girls. belinda, welcome to the program. >> thank you. nice to see you. >> thank you. nice to see you. >> lovely to see you too. >> lovely to see you too. >> gorgeous dress by way. >> gorgeous dress by the way. >> gorgeous dress by the way. >> thank >> wow. thank you. >> wow. thank you.

>> you. so, belinda, i >> thank you. so, belinda, i just want to start with you as a person, remember person, because i remember seeing what seeing you thinking, god, what a what sprightly, what a sprightly, brilliant woman. oh i did very kind of you. knows . she knows you. she knows. she knows her stuff. me about you. stuff. so talk to me about you. i like a bit about your i mean, like a bit about your life . where were you born? life. where were you born? >> i in sheffield, and >> i was born in sheffield, and my mum's from carlisle. >> my dad's from down south, and we moved down to kent, where i went to a local comprehensive school and grew up in a very sort of old fashioned family. >> i suppose we didn't have a huge amount of money. you know, holidays were spent sort of camping in tents at various parts of the uk and sometimes northern france and big family. >> i'm one of four. and of course i went on to have four under five, same as my mum . under five, same as my mum. >> so far, so i'm used to chaos and it suits me very much. you just have to surrender to it when you've got when you've got large families. >> i sort of got onto >> yeah. and i sort of got onto the political ladder , if you the political ladder, if you like, when i was 19 and i met nigel farage outside twickenham

rugby station, rugby stadium. >> i was selling programmes because back then it was the only way i could get a ticket to go and see the rugby. it was harder for girls back then and there was he he selling there was he was, he was selling those holder those little pound pin holder signs and he was asking me about what i was studying and i was telling him he was like, you need to study european law and understand what's happening to the country. >> and he started he planted the seed and yeah, and was about seed and yeah, and it was about ten years later when the lisbon treaty was signed, i was like, gosh, i met outside gosh, that chap i met outside that was right that rugby stadium was right about the eu . and then i went on about the eu. and then i went on to study more and more and ended up in law . up with a master's in eu law. part of the brexit party got elected , couldn't believe that. elected, couldn't believe that. and fought uk's corner in elected, couldn't believe that. aivery fought uk's corner in elected, couldn't believe that. aivery hostileght uk's corner in elected, couldn't believe that. aivery hostile parliament'ner in elected, couldn't believe that. aivery hostile parliament out in there. >> how amazing. and so of course, now you must talk to nigel farage quite a bit. you get to see him and everything nigel farage quite a bit. you get tlikee him and everything nigel farage quite a bit. you get tlike thatn and everything nigel farage quite a bit. you get tlike that andd everything nigel farage quite a bit. you get tlike that andd e'knows1g nigel farage quite a bit. you get tlike that andd e'knows that else like that and he knows that he on you. he had this effect on you. >> changed. >> yeah, he changed. >> yeah, he changed. >> he changed my life. he's. and and from what i've known him, >> he changed my life. he's. and and such what i've known him, >> he changed my life. he's. and and such wisincere, known him, >> he changed my life. he's. and and such wisincere, authentic 1im,

he's such a sincere, authentic man. there's no spin. he says what he feels and his duty and service to the country. when you think of what he's sacrificed to get the uk back to self—governing has been enormous . yes, i'm incredibly proud to have worked with him and i'm a huge supporter of his. and if only if only we could have him as pm nana. he doesn't want to do it, but frankly, i don't blame because don't blame him because you don't actually that way. >> he's probably way. >> off he's probably way. >> off hmoreobably way. >> off hmore effective way. >> off h more effective on better off and more effective on the of it. yes, making the outskirts of it. yes, making comment to sort comment and being able to sort of his views and make of inject his views and make changes like the incredible work that he's done with regard to the which is just down the banking, which is just down madison you think that madison road. do you think that she this massive payout? >> and it does seem rather it just sits wrong because it wasn't just a sort of just sits wrong because it wasn'tjust a sort of mistake just sits wrong because it wasn't just a sort of mistake or error. i feel like there was some sort of purpose behind it. and people on the right of politics like myself, like nigel, like many others who face such double standards , we don't such double standards, we don't get the same amount of freedom or privilege as those on the left do who have the correct bbc

approved know , we have approved think you know, we have to be very careful what we put on twitter. we have to very on twitter. we have to be very careful about careful what we say about ourselves interviews . you ourselves in job interviews. you know, i put i'm the know, if i put i'm from the brexit to go to brexit party on a cv to go to a job that would probably count against me in a way that it wouldn't if i said i was a lib dem. and do think it's dem. and so i do think it's great that he's exposed that kind of bias and almost chilling of free speech. it's like if everyone was able to say freely what they thought without any punishment, i think we'd see a lot more people speak out. like nigel. but instead there's this sort of horrible impact on free speech that this sort of punishment culture towards people like myself on the right. and it's good that he's exposed it. >> you have to be brave. you have to be like a armadillo with a shell. and you have my mum, mum taught thick mum and dad taught me a thick skin, so i'm trying to pass that on my kids. yeah, me but on to my kids. yeah, me too. but you your children. you talked about your children. now said you have you talked about your children. now children. said you have you talked about your children. now children. yes,1id you have you talked about your children. now children. yes, but'ou have you talked about your children. now children. yes, but iu have you talked about your children. now children. yes, but i knowe four children. yes, but i know that through baby loss . that you went through baby loss. >> yes. that you went through baby loss. >> yes, i did. when i was 26, i

found out i was pregnant and i was engaged at the time and knew that seven months down the line, i'd be going up the aisle with a with a huge tummy, a bit like a shotgun wedding. it was it shotgun wedding. but it was it was very, very exciting. first grandchild, the scans were grandchild, all the scans were absolutely fine . and then four absolutely fine. and then four weeks after we were married , i weeks after we were married, i was about 1 or weeks after we were married, i was about1 or 2 weeks after we were married, i was about 1 or 2 weeks away from nine months. i just i stopped feeling the baby kick and i was on my own. my husband was away for work , so i just nipped down for work, so i just nipped down to the hospital thinking it was going to be fine because people don't really talk about stillbirths very much, certainly not to someone you know , my age. not to someone you know, my age. and so it never even been a thought. and the nurse just came in, took a scan and said, we need to get the doctor in here. and he told me that my baby had died and it was quite it was just surreal . an out of body just surreal. an out of body experience and had to gather my thoughts and try and understand what that would mean in the process for women to have to

give birth after they've known their baby's died is quite a traumatic one. but being so young , none traumatic one. but being so young, none of my traumatic one. but being so young , none of my friends had young, none of my friends had any experience of it. it was quite a taboo subject. it's baby loss is quite a lonely experience for women because it very much happens within us. no matter how supportive partners can be. it is quite a lonely grief and to navigate your way through that is was definitely a challenge for me . and i mean she challenge for me. and i mean she her name was sophia. she would have been 20 a couple of weeks ago. and you know, it's like the boulder of grief i was carrying around with me has has reduced itself to a lovely little pebble that i carry around in my pocket. and i just put my hand in and squeeze it. but, you know, the process of producing the next human race women the next human race for women has been tough since time began . has been tough since time began. the women experience the losses that women experience and the grief and the loneliness with that grief the trauma with that grief and the trauma of creating life and. and it dying is so unique to women . and dying is so unique to women. and i wanted to talk about it

because because of the lonely process to reach out to other women who've gone through it saying you're not alone, you're not going crazy in your grief. it's completely normal to feel like everything has the world has been a bit. it's like everything has the world has been a bit . it's not that has been a bit. it's not that the world's rejected you, it's just it's just a deeply lonely experience sometimes. and i went on, actually to help other women through baby loss who had no family in the uk because i relied so much on my mum who was amazing and my old school friend katherine, the two of them helped me through it enormously . helped me through it enormously. my husband was fantastic, of course, but you know, i love men and there are wonderful creatures, it's hard to tell creatures, but it's hard to tell them what it's like or have them understand the process of losing a baby . so my heart goes out to a baby. so my heart goes out to all the women because i know it's been baby loss awareness week recently, but time can heal and you're all mothers to angels in the stars. oh, that's beautiful. >> and you've got four other children. yes they're all

teenagers now. >> four girls. there there are a handful. there's a lot of drama in my house. >> nana. i could imagine all five of you now, your husband must be thinking, oh, god, yes. >> yeah, we have. we have three dogs. it's you know, dogs. so it's all you know, there's shoes in there's no taking off shoes in our all sort of our house. it's all sort of chaos. our house. it's all sort of chaos . everything's everywhere. chaos. everything's everywhere. but as long as you get, you know, you're going to have know, if you're going to have a big family, as long you get big family, as long as you get them time they're five, them by the time they're five, you know, run a tight ship. my mum's get discipline mum's advice, get the discipline in. then with tough love, ovennhelming know , ovennhelming love. but you know, a discipline . a strict, strict discipline. >> we'll have a boy soon. well, people used to say that to me , people used to say that to me, but my husband obsessed with but my husband was obsessed with having . having daughters. >> was like, no, i just love >> he was like, no, i just love being and surrounded >> he was like, no, i just love beigirls. and surrounded >> he was like, no, i just love beigirls. and and surrounded >> he was like, no, i just love beigirls. and courseiurrounded >> he was like, no, i just love beigirls. and course , rrounded >> he was like, no, i just love beigirls. and course , you nded by girls. and of course, you know, care of him. know, they take care of him. they they they adore him. of course they would. would would. you know, daddy, would you like a beer when he comes home whereas, home from work? whereas, you know, i get all the aggro, but i love it. i'm very , very lucky love it. i'm very, very lucky and blessed. >> that's so lovely to >> lovely. that's so lovely to heat >> lovely. that's so lovely to hear. must be quite >> lovely. that's so lovely to hear. because must be quite >> lovely. that's so lovely to hear. because you'vee quite >> lovely. that's so lovely to hear. because you'vee quto tough because you've got to you've politics you've got all your politics side then managing your side and then managing your family. they're so family. they're older now, so it's lot i it's probably a lot easier, i should although should imagine it is, although

they're because they're becoming because they're of where they're they're becoming because they're of school where they're they're becoming because they're of school where where they're they're becoming because they're of school where they�*re they're they're becoming because they're of school where they 15 they're they're becoming because they're of school where they i have"re they're becoming because they're of school where they i have to at school where they i have to do so much unravelling. >> many parents can can >> i think many parents can can connect with me this what connect with me on this what they at school and they go through at school and universities is isn't the same sort of education we had. there is indoctrination going on. there's of social camp there's kind of social camp engineering going on in our education system at the moment . education system at the moment. and so i find that a parent's job is so much harder job now is so much harder because you have to challenge all these views that are getting planted in their heads, which are so intolerant and so that's definitely an edge of parenting. i say to my mum, you never had this us. i've got to keep this with us. i've got to keep reminding the girls, single—sex spaces fighting for. spaces are worth fighting for. remember suffragettes? you remember the suffragettes? you know all this hashtag be kind to men who want into your spaces. you're going against everything that women have fought that women's women have fought for. there's been a little for. so there's been a little bit of that unravelling needed. but on whole, i think that but on the whole, i think that they're smashing they've got they're smashing and they've got thick so i'm not thick skin as well. so i'm not sure follow me into sure they'll follow me into politics, though. that's anything. >> and finally, gb news, we have

bofis >> and finally, gb news, we have boris johnson joining . what do boris johnson joining. what do you of that? well, i, i you think of that? well, i, i think boris is a fantastic entertainer. >> he is. he's he's also a kind of a comedian. and he's so bnght of a comedian. and he's so bright and so clever. and i love listening to him talk. i'm highly critical of him sometimes as a politician . you know, we as a politician. you know, we disagree on a lot of things like the green zealotry . and i know the green zealotry. and i know he's quite liberal on immigration, but i love that gb news is an echo chamber and news is not an echo chamber and it more liberal presenters it has more liberal presenters as on those issues. as well. on those issues. i think he's a great force for fun and he's interesting. he's written so many books and he's a brilliant guy and people are kind of a bit fed up of grey suit technocrats, always presenting politics in parliament. now and now he's got you've got a fun and flair and a bit of a glitter zone in with with boris and i think he'll provide a good entertainment. good value. yeah well i'm looking fonnard. >> i hope i get to meet him. if you could pass of wisdom you could pass a pearl of wisdom to people , what would it be? the to people, what would it be? the thing probably helped thing that probably helped you

through maybe through your life that maybe you keep to in your head? >> um, stiff lip . i think >> um, stiff upper lip. i think i'm a firm believer of this . i i'm a firm believer of this. i think it's amazing what humans, our ancestor , our grandparents our ancestor, our grandparents have gone through in their lifetimes and survived and got through it. and i've got a lot of war diaries at home from my grandparents, and i read them a lot. and they inspire me that actually humans can get through so physical so much mental and physical trauma and survive and also all will be well and all shall be well and all manner of things shall be well. is my mantra shall be well. that is my mantra for i go to sleep with for anytime i go to sleep with worries my and that's a worries on my mind. and that's a good to stick linda, good one to stick to. and linda, thank you very much. >> that is, of course, the fabulous she's fabulous linda de luca. she's a former party mep, former brexit party mep, political and political commentator and a campaigner. gb news. campaigner. this is gb news. more come in the hour. more to come in the next hour. i've won't i've got an interview you won't want to miss. >> afternoon . my name is >> good afternoon. my name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. so for many, there's been plenty rain and showers been plenty of rain and showers around start the weekend . and

around to start the weekend. and this due to this large this is all due to this large area of low pressure that's going to bring weather fronts up from the southwest across the uk as through this weekend. as we go through this weekend. so into this afternoon, so already into this afternoon, we've seen further heavy rain and maybe the odd thunderstorm to making northwards . to making its way northwards. and that's going to continue as we go through tonight to be followed further heavy followed by further heavy showers, especially for southern and western coasts particular fairly blustery as well, around both southern and northern coasts with the potential for coastal gales . so as we start coastal gales. so as we start sunday, a pretty gloomy and wet start for northern england and most of scotland with outbreaks of rain that have made their way northwards overnight . elsewhere, northwards overnight. elsewhere, a continuation of those heavy showers, though, fewer making their way inland and staying more confined to southern and western coasts for the second half of the weekend. so a bit more in the way of sunshine and feeling pleasant in that sunshine with highs of 14 to 15 in south. now, as we move on in the south. now, as we move on to the new week, it's a bit of a

cloudy start again with further showers around, but mostly going to be around the coasts. so the further inland you are, the better chance you have of seeing some sunny spells into the new week unsettled , week remaining fairly unsettled, though, throughout next week, maybe bit respite from the maybe a bit of respite from the showers tuesday and becoming showers on tuesday and becoming colder

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gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show about opinion. it's show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating , discussing, and at debating, discussing, and at times we will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza . but before we get matthew laza. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines with . aaron news headlines with. aaron >> very good afternoon to you. it's 4:00 aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. israel has exchanged fire with militants on its northern border lebanon its northern border with lebanon as fears that the conflict as fears grow that the conflict in middle east escalate in the middle east will escalate . as sirens heard in the . as sirens were heard in the area as anti—tank missiles were fired at the israeli army near the border, tanks and artillery have responded by striking hezbollah military

infrastructure in lebanon. earlier israel said its troops remain in the field in gaza, suggesting a ground offensive is in its early stages . that in its early stages. that followed a night of intensified bombing and airstrikes in the north of the enclave . no north of the enclave. no casualty figures have been released as all communications in remain down. the in gaza remain down. the military, though, is advising residents relocate residents to relocate immediately intense immediately amid intense hostilities . hostilities. >> for your immediate safety , we >> for your immediate safety, we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to temporarily relocate south. let me repeat we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to relocate south immediately . to relocate south immediately. this is a temporary measure . this is a temporary measure. we're moving back to northern gaza will be possible once the intense hostilities end. well israel has released footage showing the interrogation of two hamas operatives who it believes were involved in the attacks earlier this month .

earlier this month. >> the southern alive, hassan hassan hassan , shows in the hassan hassan, shows in the video the suspects can be heard discussing the use of the shifa hospital as a hideout for hamas terrorists . the israeli defence terrorists. the israeli defence forces said yesterday the hospital was being used to hide command posts and entry points into an underground network of tunnels . one person has been tunnels. one person has been arrested after a police officer was assaulted during a propane mark steyn demonstration in central london. the met police says the officer was being taken to hospital following the incident. around 100,000 people are thought to be on the streets of the capital demanding a ceasefire in the israel—hamas war. protesters have been heard chanting from the river to the sea. palestine will be free despite controversy around the slogans , meaning the met had slogans, meaning the met had warned officers would intervene if protesters were deemed to be supporting terrorism . there's no supporting terrorism. there's no relief in sight to a record backlog of crown court trials , backlog of crown court trials, according to the director of pubuc according to the director of public prosecutions max hill, kc

, who is stepping down this month, says a shortage of barristers and judges is clogging up the system. he says cases are at an all time high. and while the judiciary has been expanded it's not been expanded slightly, it's not been enough alleviate the pressure enough to alleviate the pressure . latest figures show more than 65,000 still awaiting 65,000 cases are still awaiting trial . a proposal to close rail trial. a proposal to close rail ticket offices has resulted in the biggest ever response to a pubuc the biggest ever response to a public consultation. the rmt union says around 750,000 passengers have had their say ahead of an expected announcement on the future of ticket offices at train stations. the union's head, mick lynch, is warning the government against the closures , saying 98% against the closures, saying 98% of respondents are opposed to the controversial plan . around the controversial plan. around £7 million of taxpayers money has been spent on renovations at the speaker's house. sir lindsay hoyle took office in 2019. since then , more than £1 million a then, more than £1 million a year has been spent on the

property, including on state rooms and offices. the figures, which were released in a freedom of information request, don't specify how much was spent on furnishings compared to structural improvements . structural improvements. however, the telegraph understands some of the money has been spent on silvennare . has been spent on silvennare. it's looking to be a dark and gloomy halloween weekend, with weather warnings in place for parts of england and scotland. a yellow warning brighton, yellow warning covers brighton, canterbury and london. there's a possibility of heavy rain there. these pictures posted on social media show some flooding in a popular shopping area of hastings near the south coast . hastings near the south coast. warnings also remain in scotland with some rail services suspended following damage caused by storm babet . and if caused by storm babet. and if you ever waited too long to use a gift voucher, spare a thought for the new owner of this coin . for the new owner of this coin. it's one of only 50 we created back in 1766. it allowed its owner free access to every show at the old vic theatre in

bristol . now, it was auctioned bristol. now, it was auctioned by henry aldridge and son a short time ago. it sold for just over £9,000. and despite its age, what, nearly 260 years old? the old vic says it will honour its word to the new owner . so its word to the new owner. so free shows at the old vic if you can afford £9,000 for a coin, and that's it from me. i'll be back with more a little later. now it's over to nana . now it's over to nana. >> thank you, aaron. it's just fast approaching. six minutes after 4:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv onune nana akua. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'd like to call this one. one man's junk is another man's treasure. do you remember this , mr speaker ? >> it is not too late to save brexit. b rexit. >> therefore, brexit. >> therefore, i give notice that bofis >> therefore, i give notice that boris johnson is elected as the leader of the conservative and

unionist party. >> well , my friends. good >> well, my friends. good morning, everybody. my friends . morning, everybody. my friends. >> well, we did it. we did it. i say respectfully to our stentorian friend in the blue 12 star hat . that's it. stentorian friend in the blue 12 star hat. that's it. time to put a sock in the megaphone on tonight. we are leaving the european union . the most european union. the most important thing to say tonight is that this is not an end , but is that this is not an end, but a beginning. >> this is the moment when the dawn breaks and the curtain goes up on a new act in our great national drama . national drama. >> we must therefore go into a national lockdown, which is tough enough to contain this variant. that means the government is once again instructing you to stay at home. the last place you'd want the prime minister to be at a time of national crisis is for boris johnson. >> this is now a deeply personal crisis to his coronavirus . crisis to his coronavirus. symptoms worsen tonight. he was moved into the intensive care unit , but moved into the intensive care unit, but that was not a party.

>> i was there too. >> i was there too. >> i was there too. >> i haven't said it was a party, mrjohnson >> i haven't said it was a party, mr johnson well, you did actually, earlier on. >> people say we were >> people who say that we were partying in lockdown simply do not know what they are talking about. i not wittingly or about. i did not wittingly or recklessly parliament. recklessly mislead parliament. it is clearly now the will of the parliamentary conservative party that there should be a new leader of that party and therefore a new prime minister. i know that there will be many people who are relieved . and people who are relieved. and perhaps quite a few who will also be disappointed. but them's the breaks . the breaks. >> so after what can only be described as a leadership coup which resulted in the implosion of the tory party, boris was usurped and liz truss was elected party as the leader by the party members. but then mps weren't happy and pretty much overturned the verdict to install rishi sunak foolish . install rishi sunak foolish. they threw boris away a leader who achieved one of the biggest ever majorities and in my view, a leader who could connect with the public like no other, a

skill that hugely skill that was hugely underestimated and one that neither liz nor rishi possess. bofis neither liz nor rishi possess. boris disappeared into the aether and sort of kept a relatively low profile until now. but boris johnson will be joining gb news in the new year. >> hi folks. boris johnson here. i'm excited to say that i'm shortly going to be joining you two on gb news and i'm going to be giving this remarkable new tv channel my unvarnished views on everything from russia, china, the war in ukraine, how we meet all those challenges to the huge opportunity parties that lie ahead for us. why i think our best days are yet to come and why, on the whole, the people of the world want to see more global britain , not less. so global britain, not less. so join me on gb news for some great british television . great british television. >> so to all you haters who

wanted to see the back of gb news because we've disrupted the in adam boulton's words , the in adam boulton's words, the broadcast ecology . we're here to broadcast ecology. we're here to stay. deal with it . the tories stay. deal with it. the tories were foolish to dispose of boris the way they did, and there isn't a broadcaster out there who would turn down an opportunity to have him on their platform. got boris done . platform. but we got boris done. one another man's one man's junk is another man's treasure . so before we get stuck treasure. so before we get stuck into the debates , here's what into the debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking , great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, will great british debate. this hour. i'm asking , will issues i'm asking, will issues surrounding israel become labour's undoing as israel continue its bombardment of gaza? the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is facing more scrutiny from members of his party over his stance on the hamas conflict . party over his stance on the hamas conflict. but is party over his stance on the hamas conflict . but is starmer's hamas conflict. but is starmer's leadership under threat and will the israel become the issues in israel become their undoing at 450, it's royal roundup time and angela levin, royal biographer, will be here to give you the latest from behind the walls on the menu, american sitcom family guy has mocked duke and duchess of

mocked the duke and duchess of sussex for a second time of them being grifters and receiving millions from netflix. and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to the entrepreneur and educator buck angel. buck is a man who transitioned 30 years ago, is concerned about the transitioning children and transitioning of children and the that it will the implications that it will have on them. and spoke to have on them. and he spoke to brianna, who was forced to transition just years old. transition at just 13 years old. have a listen this. have a listen to this. >> after bottom surgery >> after the bottom surgery failed, they cut off all failed, yeah, they cut off all contact i found out a few contact and i found out a few weeks ago they wiped all of my medical records . they wiped my medical records. they wiped my clinical summaries. medical records. they wiped my clinical summaries . there's no clinical summaries. there's no information about what happened to me . to me. >> so that is coming up in the next hour. do not you don't want to miss that? tell me what you think. as ever and everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour adviser matthew le

le . le. >> oh, i knew it was coming here. >> it was coming. >> it was coming. >> oh well i'm going to have to start with the lovely lizzie because, of course, boris johnson . johnson. >> oh, well, i'm so happy. >> oh, well, i'm so happy. >> do you know when i heard the news i was so happy. >> jumped the air and >> i jumped in the air and stubbed my toe, and i was in agony. but i am not your mum. i am like mother . very, very am like my mother. very, very excited. now, this is great news because you know what? boris is bofis and because you know what? boris is boris and everyone boris is box office and everyone is going to tune for in me. this is going to tune for in me. this is what he's great. he's a great showman and i, for one, really miss him. in fact, the whole of the conservative party miss him. and i think even rishi would want him back, you i mean, want him back, you know? i mean, honestly, i really do. we've honestly, i really do. and we've really boris and i've really missed boris and i've missed him in every sense. his leadership and everything about him. he brings a smile to my face and i know all the viewers and listeners are really excited about here news. about it here at gb news. i mean, they'll watch just mean, they'll even watch just just hell of it. mean, they'll even watch just jusi even hell of it. mean, they'll even watch just jusi even if hell of it. mean, they'll even watch just jusieven if youl of it. mean, they'll even watch just jusieven if you didn't mean, they'll even watch just jusi even if you didn't like >> even if you didn't like boris, probably just boris, you'd probably still just have a sneaky peek. >> matthew don't

>> matthew lala look, i don't agree boris things, agree with boris on many things, but that his box but i do agree that his box office he's great signing office and he's a great signing for people want for gb news because people want to got to say. to hear what he's got to say. >> that's what this, this, >> and that's what this, this, this channel about. it's this channel is all about. it's about people having conversations and often disagreements. conversations and often dis; having mts. conversations and often dis('having allowing things to it's having allowing things to be said that other channels won't say even when they annoy us, annoy some of us or the other way round. so it's going to be great. and i think people are to really fonnard are going to really look fonnard to what to say, to hearing what he's got to say, not in the clip, not as he said in the clip, really. interestingly not just not as he said in the clip, really. the erestingly not just not as he said in the clip, really. the erestbuty not just not as he said in the clip, really. the erest but about ust not as he said in the clip, really. the erestbut about the about the uk, but about the world how britain relates world and how britain relates to the a changing the world in a very changing situation. think it's very situation. so i think it's very exciting situation. so i think it's very exc he's had some very exciting >> he's had some very exciting moments, actually. i've got one that of that i wanted to remind you of. this is when he was talking about about a tesla and this is quite an interesting clip. i wonder got that we can wonder if we've got that we can play wonder if we've got that we can play it because we're supposed to that it there? to get that ready. is it there? we little clip. so this we had a little clip. so this this one my favourite this is one of my favourite favourite, i've favourite, boris moments. i've listened this , pace of listened to this, the pace of change, which is now going to accelerate like a new tesla because i can tell you as a former motoring correspondent , former motoring correspondent, evs may not burble like sucking

doves and they may not have that room, room, rah rah that you love, but they have bro bra . love, but they have bro bra. >> you know, he's a character. >> you know, he's a character. >> i think the public are going to realise how much they really do. >> miss boris because he was so funny and he a great one liners. >> you know him with keir starmer captain hindsight he had such good lines something that sadly rishi doesn't have . sadly rishi doesn't have. >> he loves words, doesn't he? because he loves journalists . because he loves journalists. so, i mean, he's got a great turn phrase, whether you love turn of phrase, whether you love him loathe have to him or loathe him. i have to say, wouldn't want to be the say, i wouldn't want to be the producer tell him. producer who's got to tell him. he's seconds to go to he's got five seconds to go to the might quite scary. >> i think we probably have a pre—record with that. >> may be wise to >> maybe wise it may be wise to brush hair. >> maybe wise it may be wise to brush mum r. >> maybe wise it may be wise to brush mum used to always say, >> my mum used to always say, i wish brushed but we wish he brushed his hair, but we love boris, you know, and is love boris, you know, and he is box he's showman box office and he's a showman and to be on and and what a show to be on and what channel. and what a show to be on and whil channel. and what a show to be on and whil bet channel. and what a show to be on and whil bet the channel. and what a show to be on and whil bet the others1el. and what a show to be on and whil bet the others thought, oh >> i bet the others thought, oh god, because god, they've got boris. because of know , piers of course, you know, piers morgan was the big name. and talktv morgan. talktv got piers morgan. and then, wasn't then, you know, there wasn't really think it really but boris is, i think it was a good kept secret.

>> i usually i get to know >> i mean, usually i get to know i shocked. i was shocked. >> absolutely. even those >> no, absolutely. even those of us a lot of time here us who spend a lot of time here giving views, we're really giving our views, we're really excited, you know, to hear or to hear the news. and as you say, what was interesting is it was a big story. it wasn't just in the media from financial media pages from the financial times the daily star. they times to the daily star. they were their times to the daily star. they were page their their times to the daily star. they were page their websites. front page of their websites. as soon as it came. >> in america from >> friends in america from dubal >> friends in america from dubai, was ringing me dubai, everyone was ringing me about yeah. about it. yeah. >> i'm doing actually a >> so i i'm doing actually a launch for boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau so for boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau so are for boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau so are you?“ boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau yes. re you?“ boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau yes. are ou?�* boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau yes. are we ' boris. >> so i i'm doing actually a lau yes. are we invited? >> yes. are we invited? >> yes. are we invited? >> are very so, yes. >> you are very much so, yes. >> you are very much so, yes. >> bit like party games. >> yeah, a bit like party games. sorry, i couldn't resist it. >> i couldn't resist it. >> i couldn't resist it. >> well , it's not. love to hear >> well, it's not. love to hear what you think at home. whether you're pleased about fact you're pleased about the fact that joining or not. that boris is joining us or not. get touch. vaiews@gbnews.com get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com or us at gb news. this is or tweet us at gb news. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua live on tv, and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. up tv, online and on digital radio. up next, it's time the great up next, it's time for the great british hour, i'm british debate. this hour, i'm asking will issues surrounding israel's be be labour's undoing ? israel's be be labour's undoing? i've currently got a pull up on x right now asking you that very

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time now for the great british debate this hour, and i'm asking will issues surrounding israel be labour's undoing ? so keir be labour's undoing? so keir starmer is facing growing pressure from within the labour party as 150 labour muslim councillors have signed a letter to the party leader urging him to the party leader urging him to call from a call from an immediate call for an immediate ceasefire . now this comes as ceasefire. now this comes as london mayor sadiq khan and scottish labour leader anas sannar have both released videos calling for a ceasefire in the conflict, piling pressure onto the labour leader. now sir keir starmer has remained relatively calm and on the same page as the prime minister on the issue . but prime minister on the issue. but much of the anger has been to some of his supporters within the party who believe in palestine and believe in the cause. following critics and the crisis talks on wednesday with labour's muslim mp cohort in a bid to keep the party intact, starmer released a statement outlining how aid to gaza was completely insufficient and had to be urgently ramped up. however, senior figures

abandoning the party policy is threatening the party's unity and is proving to be sir keir starmer's greatest leadership test yet. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking will issues surrounding israel be labour's undoing? so joining me now to discuss is ann widdecombe. she's a member of reform uk. gary moon, chairman for jewish national for the jewish national assembly. pound , assembly. and stephen pound, former labour mp all right, i'm going to start with you, gary mond. do you take on that? >> my take that that the >> my take on that is that the majority of the labour party are not with keir starmer on this. >> there's actually one interesting people that interesting group of people that hasn't been referred to and that interesting group of people that helabour's1 referred to and that interesting group of people that helabour's prospective and that is labour's prospective parliamentary who are parliamentary candidates who are in potentially winnable seats in the next election. currently labour's 200 most labour's got 200 mps, most opinion polls think they'll end up with 400 to 450 after the next election. what do the 200 to 250 potential future labour mps think? and i strongly suspect that they're very much opposed to keir starmers view. there is regrettably substantial support for hamas and

palestinian nationalism within the labour party and it's very much against the interests of the state of israel. >> but, but, but seeing that, as you said, just there, there's a lot of seemingly support for the palestinian cause within the party. do you think then, especially with the troubles that they've had with anti—semitism, that this could be something that could destabilise the party? >> i think that there is a strong possibility that labour will appear very divided on this and destabilising is probably the right word to use. yes i'm old enough to remember a situation in 1981 when labour won a glc election and the candidate who actually was their leader was removed in favour of ken livingstone. and i'm just wondering whether keir starmer might be in trouble if after he wins the general election, whether there might actually be an remove on this an attempt to remove him on this very an attempt to remove him on this veerell, that's if he it >> well, that's if he wins it and would have come. what's your thought? >> well, obviously, this not >> well, obviously, this is not

making any easier and making his life any easier and he is between a rock and a hard place . place. >> whichever way he goes, he's to going upset the others. >> and i think, therefore, it's got to be a question of principle . he's got to stay principle. he's got to stay where he is on the issue, which is in favour of the israeli action. but also in favour of getting humanitarian aid to gaza. >> that's perfectly compatible and but the question really is how much is this going to gain traction between now in the next general election ? you know, the general election? you know, the previous two speakers spoke about the general election, but the fact is that it's not due probably until next october. >> and that's a very long time. >> and that's a very long time. >> i mean, in that time, you'll probably have the ground invasion. >> then we're going to have the aftermath aftermath will aftermath and the aftermath will be even more challenging than the present situation. >> so , yes, i think he's in >> so, yes, i think he's in trouble . but >> so, yes, i think he's in trouble. but if he can >> so, yes, i think he's in trouble . but if he can show trouble. but if he can show strength over this one, it will

do him some good. but yes, he is in trouble. >> but he's already wavering, though, because he's sort of you can sort of see him sort of trying to soften his his stance now. worried about the now. and he's worried about the party. pound, party. i mean, stephen pound, what's your thoughts on it? i i have to say nana my first reaction is compared to the absolute utter horror of what hamas has committed in israel and what is happening in gaza today. >> the internal machinations of the labour party seem utterly irrelevant . but these are this irrelevant. but these are this is the question you're asking you're quite entitled to ask this very question. >> the answer is it will not cause the downfall of the labour party it not affect our party. it will not affect our chances actually up to 29 chances of actually up to 29 point leads in the. however, it is a very, very unfortunate and unhappy reminder of how life was under the corbyn era and we don't need that . but what's don't need that. but what's important is that we actually start to discuss the realities. people are calling for a ceasefire, are reacting emotionally and understandably . emotionally and understandably. but you know, and i know that we can have a ceasefire tomorrow if

hamas would release prisoners , hamas would release prisoners, release the hostages and say we will sit down. so iran would actually struck hamas to sit down and talk about a two state solution until then, we've got an emotional spat instead of a respectful political position. >> well, i mean , it is a bit of >> well, i mean, it is a bit of a nonsense, gary, that people are calling for a ceasefire because a ceasefire , it's because a ceasefire, it's unlikely that hamas will take any notice of that. so what you're asking is for israel to put lay down its arms and allow hamas to carry on. so it does seem a bit odd, but there are those within the party, the labour party are calling for that and people resigning as a result of that . and i think that result of that. and i think that the optics for someone who's thinking about voting for them, especially somebody is in especially somebody who is in support of israel whilst they may feel that keir starmer is , may feel that keir starmer is, is, know, honourable and is, you know, honourable and they agree with him, they might look at the party and think, well, hang on a minute. if it's filled with people who who actually to support actually want to support palestine, perhaps i don't want to do you

to vote for them. gary, do you think that that's i think you're spot on. >> you're e-m spot on. >> you're on. but >> i think you're spot on. but there point to make there is an added point to make here. that hamas here. and that is that hamas will not release hostages unless they get something for it. and what they're looking for is something like between 5000 and 6000 terrorists who are held in israeli jails to be released in exchange for the hostages. that's they're angling that's what they're angling towards and something towards. and that is something that i don't believe the israeli government agree to. government would ever agree to. and support it. >> but we can't trust them anyway . they might say that. but anyway. they might say that. but then even if i mean, is there a track record that they would actually , honour the actually honour, honour the commitment if these 5000 prisoners were released? i doubt it. >> no, you summed it up earlier on the idea of a ceasefire . it on the idea of a ceasefire. it sounds a good optic, but. but the israelis would feel that they have lost the war if they agreed to a ceasefire now, because what you'd be doing is you would be leaving hamas intact, giving it a chance to rearm and regroup , to only rearm and regroup, to only attack again in a year or two years from now. on a scale that

may be even worse than happened on and that on the 7th of october. and that must to happen. must not be allowed to happen. hamas destroyed . hamas must be destroyed. >> but is it realistic? i want to bring jake wallace in now. jake wallis simons . he's the jake wallis simons. he's the editor jewish chronicle. editor of the jewish chronicle. jake, realistic, though, jake, is it realistic, though, for i mean, i i'm behind israel 100% because i you know, i feel that you have to do what you need to do. i don't want anyone to i do believe that to die. but i do believe that israel absolutely every israel has absolutely every right i also right to defend itself. i also don't believe in any don't believe i'm in any position dictate to position to tell or dictate to israel what defence should israel what that defence should be. and of course i want them to be. and of course i want them to be considerate the humans be. and of course i want them to be cwwillierate the humans be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be|te the humans be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be caughtle humans be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be caught uplumans be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be caught up in nans be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be caught up in alls be. and of course i want them to be cwwill be caught up in all of that will be caught up in all of this. that's how it has to be in my view. but do you do you feel that even if israel go in and they supposedly destroy hamas, is that objective actually realistic ? i think that we need realistic? i think that we need to look at other examples throughout history where has in particular, i'm thinking of the

operation against islamic state and in 2016, 17 and thereafter , and in 2016, 17 and thereafter, the raf and other allies , the the raf and other allies, the americans and the iraqis and so on engaged a very, very, very operations can use that word against islamic state . against islamic state. >> in the battle of mosul alone in 2017, 18, 11,000 civilians killed after a c pounding by the raf. the iraqis going in and now we don't face as much of an islamic state threat as we used to. it's to all intents and purposes, it has been destroyed there. appropriate islamic state in africa and in the middle east. but they are not functioning in the same way as they were, which was as a proper pseudo government and as an army pseudo government and as an army pseudo standing army . i pseudo government and as an army pseudo standing army. i think that we could hope to achieve the same thing in gaza or the israeli , although it's not going israeli, although it's not going to be easy.

>> and do you think that sir keir starmer within the labour party, do you think that what's happening within the labour party and the fact that people are his are resigning because of his stance, do you think that that's a that's a risk for the labour party could actually party and that it could actually destabilise ? destabilise them? >> i think it's a massive risk. there are some yougov polling which came out last week which showed that whereas amongst conservative voters about 40% of people supported the israelis against something like 6% in favour of the palestinian when it comes to labour voters, it's much the opposite. i think it was 27% voted the palestinians and about 9% supported the israelis. and those figures are going to have become even more extreme over the last week since the protests and everything else. so the labour leadership is in a very different position. you compared to the grassroots of the party, labour voted . now of the party, labour voted. now there is a further bit of polling being carried out which shows that people very dim shows that people are very dim view across the board .

view of hamas across the board. but not what this but that's not really what this is is becoming is becoming. this is becoming about israel versus palestine, if like, those crude if you like, in those crude terms are forgetting if you like, in those crude termit's are forgetting if you like, in those crude termit's about are forgetting if you like, in those crude termit's about this forgetting if you like, in those crude termit's about this terrorting that it's about this terror group, which is akin to islamic state and what they did. so i think this does represent a very serious problem the labour serious problem for the labour leadership . keir starmer has leadership. keir starmer has tried very hard to move his party the centre to root out party to the centre to root out in his anti—semitism from in his terms anti—semitism from his party, certainly from the parliamentary party. but this is a stark reminder of just far a stark reminder of just how far there is still to go in terms of there is still to go in terms of the labour voters, the electorate, the people who would get mps into office and him get his mps into office and him over the line as prime minister is a serious, problem. is a serious, serious problem. >> also and a final word to >> but also and a final word to you, and we've also got sadiq khan and of course you've got the labour leader in scotland as well. anas sannar all all, you know, sort of putting pressure on sir keir starmer and they have quite a they've got quite a population underneath them who they're representing indeed. >> and you know, it is all putting pressure on them. and as

i said, it's not making his life any easier . but i said, it's not making his life any easier. but this is now a test for starmer . test for starmer. >> is he going to try and appease everybody ? appease everybody? >> hinckley impossible in the current situation ? or is he current situation? or is he going to say clearly this is not about palestine, it's about terrorism? >> that's what we're dealing with. that's why i support the government. that's what he should say and that's why i'm continuing with the line i'm taking. >> but that is the challenge for him is not terribly stalwart in times of challenge. >> we've seen him going for policy reverse after policy reversal. >> that's the normal way he goes. >> this time. he can't. this time he is. he has got to take a very clear line and stick to it. and tell his party, well, it will be interesting. >> well, it'll be interesting if he does. well, so final question to each of you, yes or no, will the israel situation be labour's undoing and widdecombe? yes or

no ? possibly. stephen pound yes no? possibly. stephen pound yes or no? >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely no, jake wallace yes or no ? yes or no? >> uh, jake wallis simons i think it has been. labour's doing over the years. whether it will be the final deathblow, i don't think so. i think i think starmer will struggle on. he can't be decapitated at this point . let's wait can't be decapitated at this point. let's wait and see what happens at election. happens at the election. >> yeah, interesting. and what about monde yes or no? >> not right now. but it might well months now . well be a few months from now. >> oh, really? well be a few months from now. >> so, really? well be a few months from now. >> so you lly? well be a few months from now. >> so you think potentially it will overall party will be the overall party standing? interesting. thank you very much. of course, major problems . jake wallis simons at problems. jake wallis simons at the jewish chronicle and with a member of reform bond, member of reform uk, gary bond, chairman jewish national chairman of the jewish national assembly, pound, assembly, and stephen pound, former very former labour mp. thank you very much . well, what do think? much. well, what do you think? do think the issues do you think the issues surrounding will surrounding israel will be labour's love labour's undoing? i'd love to hear thoughts. hear your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. you're with me. i'm nana roe v wade this is gb news. coming up, we'll continue with the and the great british debate and i'm asking issues surrounding the great british debate and i'm askingbe issues surrounding the great british debate and i'm askingbe labour's surrounding the great british debate and i'm askingbe labour's undoing?ng israel be labour's undoing? you'll my

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airstrikes in the north of the enclave. no casualty figures have been released or communications in gaza remain down the military is advising residents to relocate immediately . meanwhile, in immediately. meanwhile, in london, one person has been arrested after a police officer was assaulted during a pro—palestine demonstration in central london. the met police says the officer has been taken to hospital following the incident. around 100,000 people have been taking to the streets of the capital and other uk cities to demand a ceasefire in the israel and hamas war. some protesters have been heard chanting from the to river the sea. despite the controversy around the slogans, meaning the met's warned officers will intervene if protesters are deemed to be supporting terrorism . and it looks like it terrorism. and it looks like it may well be a dark, gloomy halloween weekend weather warnings are in place for some parts of england and scotland. these are from hasting these pictures are from hasting as they show flooding in a popular shopping area of the

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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> good afternoon. if you've just joined us, welcome on board. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget as well you can download the gb news app. it's completely free. you can check out all the programmes the channel i'm programmes on the channel i'm nana it's time now for nana akua, but it's time now for the british debate this the great british debate this hour i'm asking will issues hour and i'm asking will issues surrounding israel be labour's undoing? so keir starmer is facing growing pressure from within the labour party to take a stronger stance and demand a ceasefire between israel and hamas. but he's yet to call for a ceasefire and meanwhile labour councillors have resigning over it. so for the great british debate this hour , i'm asking debate this hour, i'm asking will issues that surround israel be labour's undoing ? so let's be labour's undoing? so let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcast author and cundy, also and columnist lizzie cundy, also and columnist lizzie cundy, also a adviser. matthew a former labour adviser. matthew lhasa. we're going to come straight to matthew first, because not looking good

because this is not looking good for the labour party. >> look, there's denying >> look, there's no denying that this difficult moment for this is a difficult moment for keir starmer and that his handung keir starmer and that his handling will be a real handling of it will be a real test of his of his leadership . i test of his of his leadership. i think that he can weather this storm and i think he's going to come out stronger the other side. but it is a big test for him when he comes under increasing pressure from various parts party. would you parts of the party. would you say that? >> but you're talking though >> but you're talking as though it's i'm talking it's all about him. i'm talking about the party a whole, it's all about him. i'm talking about th actually a whole, it's all about him. i'm talking about th actually the whole, it's all about him. i'm talking about th actually the optics from because actually the optics from someone who's at him someone who's looking at him thinking, might vote for someone who's looking at him thin labour might vote for someone who's looking at him thin labour party. ght vote for someone who's looking at him thin labour party. then ote for someone who's looking at him thin labour party. then theyyr someone who's looking at him thin labour party. then they see the labour party. then they see them, especially someone is them, especially if someone is sort pro—israel, seeing sort of more pro—israel, seeing that lots of members are actually pro palestine might make people think, hang on a minute. >> yeah. i think what's happened is, is starmer batus is, is keir starmer batus interview two weeks in interview about two weeks ago in which misspeak which he appeared to misspeak and a sort and he appeared to give a sort of blank israel and of blank check to israel and that what that did it a that what that did is it gave a kind of that people are kind of that some people are trying to call for trying to use to call for a ceasefire. in trying to use to call for a cea:debate in trying to use to call for a cea:debate earlier, in trying to use to call for a cea:debate earlier, a in trying to use to call for a cea:debate earlier, a ceasefire in the debate earlier, a ceasefire is nonsense. and i think is just nonsense. and i think i would say, too, because not would say, too, because it's not going to happen and hamas wouldn't it. but but it wouldn't stick by it. but but it is perfectly right for

is perfectly right to call for humanitarian which is humanitarian pauses, which is the rishi sunak and the position of rishi sunak and the british government so i think i totally think that is i totally understand how some people in the party, they're not pro hamas, not pro—palestine hamas, they're not pro—palestine in necessarily. are in necessarily. some are pro—palestine palestine. what they are is they're a lot of them concerned about them are very concerned about what about the what about what about the israeli about the lack israeli blockade, about the lack of electricity and water. so is the british government so is the united states. >> they're calling it sort of like of like a communal sort of punishment, obviously like a communal sort of punishninternational obviously like a communal sort of punishninternational law'iously like a communal sort of punishninternational law andly against international law and against international law and against law. international law, but ultimately collective punishment , but ultimately collective punishment, i think, is the term. yeah, but ultimately it does. i mean, it does seem that hamas all the hamas do have oil and all the things need , but they're things they need, but they're just it. they're just not using it. they're using it power rockets. just not using it. they're using it well,er rockets. just not using it. they're using it well, look, kets. just not using it. they're using it well, look, lets. just not using it. they're using it well, look, i mean, clearly, >> well, look, i mean, clearly, hamas of hamas are an awful bunch of people. they did people. we saw what they did and it an awfully it seems like an awfully long time but just a matter time ago. but it's just a matter of since this started. and time ago. but it's just a matter of mustn'tnce this started. and time ago. but it's just a matter of mustn't losehis started. and time ago. but it's just a matter of mustn't lose sight. rted. and time ago. but it's just a matter of mustn't lose sight. rted. i'dd we mustn't lose sight. and i'd say everybody in the labour say to everybody in the labour party who mustn't party who they mustn't lose sight visceral this is sight of how visceral this is for people who live in israel and israel. lizzie cundy and support israel. lizzie cundy sadly, that interview you talked about, matthew, showed everything about, matthew, showed eve it thing about, matthew, showed eve it showed he's not the right

>> it showed he's not the right man for the job. he's not right for prime time. he's not right for prime time. he's not right for minister because the for prime minister because the thing he can't thing with starmer, he can't answer the unless he's answer the question unless he's got peter mandelson writing the script he's got tony blair in script or he's got tony blair in his ear or your dear self writing a few one liners. he doesn't know what to say. he is indeed captain flip flop. and i'm sad to say we're seeing him in his true colours more and more. again and he hasn't got even. he can't even answer the question properly because he doesn't he's doesn't know himself. he's scared of scaring, spooking the horses . and now what we've got horses. and now what we've got is trouble for the labour party because over 300 labour councillors have have actually written an open letter condemning starmer. they're not happy. matthew, whether you like it or not, 6000, there's 42% of labour voters aren't happy with the way he's handled this at all. and there's only 18% of the voters think he's done a good job. so that's quite a majority, i'm sorry to say. he folds like a cheap tent when he's under

pressure. he cannot answer a question on his own. and i'm afraid he's no tony blair. >> no, he isn't. tony blair. and he's showing it. and in some ways, yeah, look, i think what this is, is to prove i can see that fear you have that he blows with the wind. i think what's going to happen over this he going to happen over this is he doesn't know . he doesn't have he doesn't know. he doesn't have he doesn't know. he does on this. he's does know he's on this. he's absolutely clear. i know on certain their certain things like men in their men, women in their genitals , men, women in their genitals, that some of those answers and their flip flopping kind of meme took place on this. he's been super clear and he will stay firm. i mean , it is the labour firm. i mean, it is the labour party will continue to call as as rishi sunak as to the as does rishi sunak as to the american aid american government for aid to get gaza . but it absolutely get into gaza. but it absolutely backs israel's right to defend itself. >> you get my point about >> but do you get my point about the of this? i think the the optics of this? i think the optics that's the problem, whether or not, whether he flip flops or not, he's his stance now. he's softening his stance now. he's moderating his he's sort of moderating his words. already into the words. we're already into the gentle flip flop. and i would say feels like a cheap say that he feels like a cheap deckchair, actually, i'm not a cheap take as it's cheap take as long as it's a summary a cheap suit

i >>i -- >>ido >> i do want to i'm not allowed to name the brand. >> this is this is a i was thinking more deckchair because, look, it's the optics. >> i'm looking at it. even if i was thinking, well, maybe i will vote labour party, i'm vote for the labour party, i'm thinking, don't all thinking, ooh, i don't like all the different you've the different factions you've got. absolutely well, you've also , of course, also got sadiq khan, of course, and our bete noire, andy burnham's coming. andy burnham. >> agree. >> i totally agree. >> i totally agree. >> who have. can >> all people who have. can i put matthew? i let put this to you, matthew? i let him on. >> go on then. so look, i would say to people like andy burnham, who's greater who's the mayor of greater manchester, and anas sannar, who's labour's leader in scotland , i mean, slightly scotland, i mean, it's slightly different in the scottish situation, but for the mayors and councillors, including sadiq khan, came out khan, i mean, somebody came out with line yesterday, with a good line yesterday, which is sadiq can't, which is that sadiq khan can't, you know, hasn't been stopping gang killing gang violence, people killing themselves streets of themselves on the streets of london be. he london as he should be. he should that and not should stick to that and not interfere affairs. should stick to that and not irthink'e affairs. should stick to that and not irthink they affairs. should stick to that and not irthink they need affairs. should stick to that and not irthink they need to ffairs. should stick to that and not irthink they need to gives. i think they need to give keir, who's leader. so who's been a great leader. so far got himself got the far and has got himself got the party to 20 plus lead in party to 20 point plus lead in the they need give the polls, they need to give keir to let lead. keir they need to let keir lead. >> sadly for me, >> but sadly sadly for me, i can't forget that he supported jeremy corbyn. >> one that said he

>> he was the one that said he will make, end quote, a great prime minister. and when it was louise ellman said to him, you know, he's a dangerous man to the jewish community. he kept repeating , i do not accept that. repeating, i do not accept that. i do not accept that. and i'm afraid this is now he's on a sticky wicket. and i tell you what, in the what, there's trouble in the labour watch. labour party. you watch. >> see. well, we >> well, let's see. well, we will watch and see what this says. without and says. nothing without you and your welcome one of says. nothing without you and you great welcome one of says. nothing without you and you great british welcome one of says. nothing without you and you great british welcontheire of our great british voices their opportunity to be on the show and us what they think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. to discussing. let's go over to bristol . where's my little bristol. where's my little where's these days ? where's my map gone these days? i goes over to i have a map that goes over to leigh somebody leigh in bristol. somebody has taken map back. taken away. bring the map back. leigh. leigh hi nana um, you know, there's i broadly agree with the panel, but matthew is very brave to say that starmer won't change his mind on this. >> um, you know, i think starmer is trying to be the statesman by following the government and the usa's line on the conflict , following the government and the usa's line on the conflict, but he's also trying to show that his party is no longer the unelected anti—semitic hellhole that it was under corbyn.

>> and the far left corbynistas still make up a large proportion of the membership , including a of the membership, including a few mps, have been relatively quiet until now. >> you know what impact this will have on the next election is still uncertain, especially as keir starmer is an unprincipled political weathervane. >> matthew he also changes his mind depending on what day it is. >> but you know, genuinely could be significant . be significant. >> if you look at the numbers as we discussed last week, based on the recent by—election losses , the recent by—election losses, it showed unequivocally that it wasn't that more people were voting labour , it was unhappy voting labour, it was unhappy tory voters staying at home. and this could well be the case with muslim voters not going out to vote. >> labour and i expect the polls to narrow polls to narrow the closer we get to the election. >> so an outright majority for labour could well be hanging in the possibly even worse. b ut worse. but there are apparently >> but there are apparently i did a bit of research on this. >> there's apparently 14 times as in britain as as many muslims in britain as there jews and they are there are jews and they are strongly pro—labour in 2019,

nearly 80% of muslims voted for the party. and if labour alienates these voters , there alienates these voters, there could well be serious ramifications at the next election. >> well, it depends if, leigh, if the rest of the country don't like the look of that, then if the country don't the rest of the country don't like that , then the rest the like that, then the rest of the country vote their feet country may vote with their feet and run from labour. listen, it's always a pleasure. a superstar , lee harris, he's he's superstar, lee harris, he's he's there. a great british there. he's a great british voice so succinct and voice and so succinct and so precise . all right. this is precise. all right. so this is gb news coming up to 48 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio on the way. my difficult conversation . i'll be difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to buck angel , a difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to buck angel, a man and activist who's worried and an activist who's worried about kids being pushed into transitioning. it's an interview that's coming up just after five. you not to miss five. you will not want to miss that. >> good afternoon . my name's >> good afternoon. my name's rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast is brought to you by the met office . for many, there's office. so for many, there's been plenty of and showers been plenty of rain and showers around start the weekend and around to start the weekend and this all due to this large this is all due to this large area pressure . and that's

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further showers around, but mostly going to be around the coasts. so the further inland you are, the better chance you have of seeing some spells have of seeing some sunny spells into remaining into the new week remaining fairly unsettled, though, throughout next week, maybe a bit of respite from showers bit of respite from the showers on becoming colder on tuesday and becoming colder in the north, right. >> well, coming up on gb news in the next hour , my great british the next hour, my great british debate, i'm going to be asking , debate, i'm going to be asking, should alison rose get her big payout after the farage de—banking scandal? but next, it's time for my royal roundup with royal biographer angela levin

good afternoon. this is gb news on tv , online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time for my royal roundup because there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different on the menu to the american sitcom family guy has mocked the duke and duchess of sussex , saying that and sussex, saying that harry and meghan millions from meghan received millions from their grifting each their netflix grifting each saturday. of course, i'd love to give you a rundown and who better to do than the better to do so than the fabulous royal biographer angela levin? course, we have levin? so of course, we have to start with the family guy , start with the family guy, angela levin. >> was so funny. was one >> it was so funny. it was one of you just sort of >> it was so funny. it was one of out you just sort of >> it was so funny. it was one of out loud. u just sort of laugh out loud. >> this little butler , >> there's this little butler, you know, we'll play. you will play you know, we'll play. you will play it. okay. >> let people see. so shall we play? okay. so have a listen to this. and if you're at home, watch on the tv. it's harry and meghan and south park family guy. i'm sorry. that was the

other one. >> the millions from netflix for no knows what put it with no one knows what put it with the of them . the rest of them. >> babe. >> babe. >> time to do . our daily >> time to do. our daily $250,000 sponsored instagram for post del taco . post del taco. >> oh, i shouldn't have left the made up nonsense . made up nonsense. >> so you see, angela, even even family guy now because they're so similar. the cartoon's family guy having a pop at them. yeah they don't respect them anymore , actually. >> they've sort of lost it . and >> they've sort of lost it. and the whole thing in that one sentence about netflix has given me this for nobody knows what it's for. it means that they've grabbed money. they they haven't worked hard. they don't deserve it. and the move that harry's got with his arm like that, you know, put it over there with the other. it's just like he moves his arm. so it's really hilarious. it's very well done. but i think meghan will absolutely be furious about that because in her own mind, she still thinks she's a global

wonder. but this is just shows that they are getting very bored with them. and once they do in america, you have to work very hard to stay at the top . you go hard to stay at the top. you go down and down and down hill. and one of the things i want to say about harry is that in 2019, he he set up this travalyst where people wanted to go on holiday, but they would try and look after the place they were going environmental care. and he's actually knocked it off the spot , hasn't he? he's the patron . , hasn't he? he's the patron. but he had these seven suvs as he's gone to see sports sports cars, which guzzle up money, money, oil and very, very bad for the country. and he had you know, he's just not interested anymore. and he won't go on a pubuc anymore. and he won't go on a public plane. it goes on a private plane. and you think how can you have a patron who's doing absolutely what you don't

want? >> well, he's doing absolutely everything he tells you not to do. yeah exactly. >> so it's pointless. but i suppose they still think he's still prince harry. but i think that's going downhill because meghan is at him all the time. she has to go first. she has to bnng she has to go first. she has to bring him down. she speaks first. and it's very difficult. so he no longer has that sort of royal, demure attitude that he had years ago, although some would argue that you know, we want to see the man sort of doing what the woman says . doing what the woman says. >> so he has become you know, he's he's a servant . well, he's he's he's a servant. well, he's nothing wrong with that , to be nothing wrong with that, to be honest with you. i'm impressed that she's managed i'm that she's managed it. i'm thinking i want to know her secret. you >> yeah. yeah. that's a good but what's lovely and which is really nice is that catherine is now another aunt and her brother arthur has had a baby . and i arthur has had a baby. and i think that's lovely because he , think that's lovely because he, james has had a very hard time. it had a lot of depression. he he businesses failed on two

occasions. marshmallows and dogs. and he's now found a woman who loves him . and they've got a who loves him. and they've got a little boy, a couple of weeks ago, they were very quiet on it. it kept very quiet because they didn't sort of leak it. they were just walking down in london and people saw that. so they said the baby had been with them for 2 or 3 weeks. and his face, he was just absolutely so happy. and you think that he can hold together now? you know , a family together now? you know, a family and be incredibly happy with with all those things and he was very upset about losing a dog . very upset about losing a dog. but he's now got something very important in a family. and it'll be lovely for the middletons because they've had a hard time with going broke and people writing nasty things about them on on trees and things like that. >> but at least they've got they may have gone bust, but at least they've rich daughter, they've got a rich daughter, very . so they'll very rich daughter. so they'll be they'll be okay. what about travellers though? aren't they . travellers though? aren't they. do you think they'll sack harry.

>> think they should >> well i think they should actually. i think if somebody doesn't he came in 2019 to say actually he came in 2019 to say we all had to do and was very important and he wanted it to work globally . work globally. >> now travalyst what were they wanting harry to do? what was his role? well, harry was the patron and to encourage people when went on holiday to when they went on holiday to make sure they were going to the right they going right place, they weren't going where the planes would be difficult for them, where they upset the animals , that you upset the animals, that you should be very careful which plane you took to which spot. >> and so that you respected the land and of course, he hasn't done that . done that. >> and now moving on to king charles, actually, because this is an interesting tour . talk me is an interesting tour. talk me through it. yes. >> well, his is there's a wonderful little helper who was in the army who still is and johnny thompson . and he was johnny thompson. and he was actually became i'm every woman sort of hero . so because he was sort of hero. so because he was

guarding the late queen, he's very handsome . um, he's very very handsome. um, he's very funny . and he devoted to the funny. and he devoted to the king. and the king has now improved his condition and he's now going to be the number one who looks after him, helps things going to take visitors through to him and, you know , do through to him and, you know, do all the things that are necessary . when i was at the v&a necessary. when i was at the v&a with the king and queen and him , with the king and queen and him, i went up to him and i said, excuse me, but i just want to know, do you really love all these women who go after you because they think you're so handsome and you're so charming? he went bright red, which was quite sweet for someone from the army. he said to me , oh, i army. and he said to me, oh, i don't myself get involved in don't let myself get involved in that. he said, because my duty is to it was prince charles. it was before that . and i want to was before that. and i want to look after him. and that's what i put my energy for. so i thought, oh, that makes him even

more attractive . yeah, exactly. more attractive. yeah, exactly. yeah >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he's a real it's a real sort of excellent person. but the other thing they did , they put other thing they did, they put him behind harry and meghan to make sure that they behaved in church is sensible. >> listen, angela always a pleasure. the fabulous angela levin . this is gb news. more to levin. this is gb news. more to come in the next hour. so it is 5:00 if you've just joined and tuned in. welcome on board. i am nana akua. this is gb news. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, week's difficult coming up, this week's difficult conversation . and i'll be joined conversation. and i'll be joined by angel. he's a man, a by buck angel. he's a man, a speaker , an entrepreneur who speaker, an entrepreneur who transitioned 30 years ago as concerned with the transitioning of children and the misrepresentation of transsexualism in our society.

you will not want to miss that. an incredible story . but after an incredible story. but after that, it's time for the great british debate. and i'm asking, should alison get to should dame alison rose get to keep her big after the keep her big payout after the whole nigel farage de—banking scandal at some 11 million. so give me your thoughts. aslef gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at gb news. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with erin . erin. >> very good evening to you . >> very good evening to you. it's a minute past five. let's get you up to date with the headlines. gaza has suffered its heaviest bombardment the heaviest bombardment since the conflict began with artillery fire and airstrikes pounding the enclave in the last few hours. israel says its forces are still in the field , attacking above in the field, attacking above and below ground as part of its expanded offensive against hamas. all communications. in gaza remain blacked out, meaning no new casualty figures have been released. the military says trucks carrying food , water and trucks carrying food, water and medical supplies will be allowed in raising hopes of a pause in

the fighting. but aid agencies say a humanitarian catastrophe, catastrophes unfolding with all residents again told to relocate immediately amid intense hostilities . hostilities. >> as for your immediate safety, we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to temporarily relocate south. let me repeat we urge all residents of northern gaza and gaza city to relocate south immediately . to relocate south immediately. this is a temporary measure moving back to northern gaza. will be possible once the intense hostilities end . intense hostilities end. >> mid air raid sirens and missiles have been heard in tel aviv . aviv. well, these pictures show a series of missiles launched from gaza towards the israeli city being intercepted by the iron

dome defences. and there are reports that one rocket may have struck an area in the east of the city, but it is unclear if there are any casualties . as one there are any casualties. as one person has been arrested after a police officer was assaulted dunng police officer was assaulted during a pro—palestine demonstration in central london. the met police says the officer has been taken to hospital following the incident. around 100,000 people have taken to the streets of the capital demanding a ceasefire in the israel—hamas war. protesters have been heard chanting a number of slogans , chanting a number of slogans, including from the to river the sea. despite controversy around the slogans, meaning the met has warned officers will intervene if protesters are deemed to be supporting terrorism . there's no supporting terrorism. there's no relief in sight to a record backlog of crown court trials, according to the director of pubuc according to the director of public prosecutions max hill kc, who's stepping down this month, says a shortage of barristers and judges is clogging up the system. he says cases are at an all time high and while the judiciary is being expanded

slightly, it's not been enough to alleviate the pressure. latest figures show more than 65,000 cases are still awaiting trial . a proposal to close rail trial. a proposal to close rail ticket offices has resulted in the biggest ever response to a pubuc the biggest ever response to a public consultation. the rmt union says around 750,000 passengers have had their say ahead of an expected announcement on the future of ticket offices at train stations . the union's head, mick lynch, is warning the government against the closures , saying 98% against the closures, saying 98% of respondents are opposed to the controversial plan . around . the controversial plan. around. £7 million worth of taxpayer money has been spent on renovations . at the speaker of renovations. at the speaker of the house of commons residence, sir lindsay hoyle took the office in 2019. well, since then, million has then, more than £1 million has been the property, been spent on the property, including rooms and including wing state rooms and offices. the figures, which were released in a freedom of information request, don't specify how much has been spent on compared to on furnishings compared to structural improvements. however

the telegraph is reporting some of the money has been spent on silvennare. now it might be a fairly dark and gloomy halloween weekend, i'm afraid. whether warnings are in place for parts of england and scotland. a yellow warning is covering brighton , canterbury and london brighton, canterbury and london and the possibility of heavy rain there in the south of england. these pictures posted to social media. this is at a popular shopping area of hastings down on the south coast . there are also warnings in scotland and some rail services have been suspended following damage caused by storm babet. and if you've ever waited too long to use a gift voucher or spare a thought for the new owner of this coin, it's one of only 50 tokens ever made. created in 766. and back then it allowed its owner free access to every show at the old vic theatre in bristol . now, it was theatre in bristol. now, it was auctioned by henry aldridge and son a short time ago . it sold son a short time ago. it sold

for just over £9,000. and despite its age, what, nearly 260 years old? the old vic says it will honour its word to the new owner . this is it will honour its word to the new owner. this is gb news is on digital radio, on tv and on your smart speaker, too. now it's back to nana . back to nana. >> thank you. good afternoon . it >> thank you. good afternoon. it is fast approaching seven minutes after 5:00. this is the gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours . we'll be debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing times we will discussing and at times we will disagree. one will be disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also former labour adviser matthew laza . still to adviser matthew laza. still to come, difficult conversation come, my difficult conversation today is all about transitioning of children. now the difficulties surrounding it and why as a society need to do why we as a society need to do

better in protecting and advising kids before they make life altering, permanent changes to body . the sexual to their body. the sexual entrepreneur and educator buck angel, has been speaking to victims of this his podcast. victims of this in his podcast. take listen . take a listen. >> so now i'm 22 and i'm like, i have my entire adult life, but i have my entire adult life, but i have no sexual function . so so have no sexual function. so so what does that mean in a relationship now? i want a family. i can't do that. i want to be in a long term relationship. but i have no sexual desire , no sexual sexual desire, no sexual feelings. i don't even know what that feels like . so i don't that feels like. so i don't really know how to do any of that. >> that was buck angel speaking to brianna, and i'll be speaking to brianna, and i'll be speaking to him in just a moment for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should dame alison rose her big payout rose get to keep her big payout following nigel farage following the nigel farage de—banking scandal at some 11 million? ms rose is set to receive a massive 2.4 million after she stepped down over the way cuts closed down. nigel farage account. dame alison could also benefit from

additional bonuses totalling up to 10 million as she leaves natwest. but do you think that she deserves that big payout as part of goodbye part of a sort of goodbye package? it's going to come out of our taxes , of course, or part of our taxes, of course, or part of our taxes, of course, or part of it at aslef you can of it at least. aslef you can get in touch. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. so now gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so now it's gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. so now it's time for this week's difficult conversation . buck angel was conversation. buck angel was born female in los angeles, but as a child he did not conform to gender stereotypes and began transitioning to male over 30 years ago to combat feelings of gender dysphoria. he worked as an adult entertainer and has done has gone on to advocate for trans rights and educate people about self—acceptance and redefining gender. now buck is speaking out against the transitioning of children and the affirmative approach. many doctors are taking to gender just days ago, buck spoke to brianna , a 22 year old woman who

brianna, a 22 year old woman who began transitioning when she was 13 years old. yes you heard that right? just 13. he's remained of what she said . what she said. >> and so now i'm 22 and i'm like, i have my entire adult life, but i have no sexual function. so so what does that mean in a relationship now? i want a family. i can't do that. i want to be in a long term relationship . but i have no relationship. but i have no sexual desire or no sexual feelings . i don't even know what feelings. i don't even know what that feels like . so i don't that feels like. so i don't really know how to do any of that. >> wow. so i'm joined now by speaken >> wow. so i'm joined now by speaker, entrepreneur and educator jr buck angel . buck, educator jr buck angel. buck, thank you so much for joining me. honestly i came across you on on x and checked all the a lot of the things you've done on youtube and it is astonishing really what is happening. so can you talk me through sort of your experience first because, of course, you suffered with gender dysphoria . can you talk about

dysphoria. can you talk about you because a lot of people might not know your backstory ? might not know your backstory? >> well, first off, thanks so much for having me. i totally appreciate you seeing what i'm doing in this in in sane world. but i laugh, so don't cry . it's but i laugh, so don't cry. it's just so crazy . um, so i but i laugh, so don't cry. it's just so crazy. um, so i am a man. i was born female , uh, 61 man. i was born female, uh, 61 years ago, and i transitioned to live my life as a male . i am live my life as a male. i am still a biological female . that still a biological female. that being said, i transitioned as an adult, and when i'm seeing today with the transitioning of children , it goes against children, it goes against everything we have done in the community. for as long as i've been a part of it. and it's disturbing and, you know, i kind of feel like i had to step up as an elder in the community and start to voice my opinion about this. you know, i had a great childhood . i did have a bad childhood. i did not have a bad childhood. i did not have a bad childhood. i did not have a bad childhood. i do believe childhood. and i do believe that kids need to find themselves before they make such a drastic choice. this is not

choice. and this is not something i can change. i will forever look this way and i will forever look this way and i will forever be this way. but i made that choice as an adult. >> when you transitioned, how far did you go? because a lot of i mean, listening to brianna, we've played lots of clips of that throughout the program already . and course, says already. and of course, she says that has no sexual that now she has no sexual function at all, which is horrendous. and she's only 22. what horrendous thing to have what a horrendous thing to have to then deal with throughout your life. mean, did you go your life. i mean, did you go through that those procedures yourself? so when i transitioned, nobody else was transitioned, nobody else was trans listening. >> 30 years ago , we didn't have >> 30 years ago, we didn't have the internet , really. and so the internet, really. and so i didn't even know what i was doing. i did it very blindly on some level and when i did the only surgery i've ever done is my top surgery, which which what we call basically a double mastectomy, i removed my breasts 28 years ago, but i didn't i did not do what we call the bottom surgery, which is genital surgery, which is genital surgery today. i'm very grateful

i didn't do that because as you see, there are huge implications by making that choice. and they still do not have the genital surgery to where it's a functioning normal space. many people have a lot of problems with that surgery . with that surgery. >> yeah, i mean, it is thereby the grace of god that you did not do that because as i think this seems to be an issue, because i, you know, like i think. right. if people don't feel that they're the right gender what's happening in gender and what's happening in this country at the moment, i think we are slightly behind you, are you, but i think we are following the states following the united states because i was just reading here about teachers affirming the gender pronouns. so saying to the children when they go in, you know , are you, you know, do you know, are you, you know, do you know, are you, you know, do you still feel like you're, you know, what is your gender? and keep asking the children that. and eventually they sort of think, oh, they're still children. start questioning themselves. you think that we themselves. do you think that we should this gender should stop all this gender pronoun thing ? pronoun thing? >> oh, 100. i do. look i was a

kid who dealt with some you know, you could call it dysphoria. you could call it whatever . i was a tomboy . kids whatever. i was a tomboy. kids are constantly changing their minds. they're constantly going in and out of what they want. we, me and you both, everyone in the world knows that. let's just be here. you cannot say be honest here. you cannot say that a is trans when we that a child is trans when we don't understand what they're actually going we're actually going through. we're not other not even looking at other different of co—morbidities different sort of co—morbidities or mental issues. they or mental health issues. they might be having. there's all kinds kids are going kinds of things kids are going through. personally do not through. and i personally do not believe we have trans kids . i believe we have trans kids. i believe we have trans kids. i believe these are kids who could believe these are kids who could be dealing dysphoria like be dealing with dysphoria like me . but at be dealing with dysphoria like me. but at certain be dealing with dysphoria like me . but at certain point be dealing with dysphoria like me. but at certain point in me. but at a certain point in time , most of these kids will time, most of these kids will grow out of that if we let grow out of that if we just let them and stop pushing them be. and stop pushing them into a space that mean we have a huge rate of transition and that is something this community does not want to talk about and i interview them. i talk to them because they are the reason why we should not be transitioning children . children. >> what do you think? because

listening to that podcast and listening to that podcast and listening to that podcast and listening to your interview with brianna, she believed that she would actually be able to become a biological woman . so she a biological woman. so she believed that now and there is this forcing of language and forcing women to call trans women women. and i, i mean, i always say, look, surely if you're a trans woman, own the space. there's nothing wrong with being a trans woman. why do you have to say that you're a woman. not a woman. and woman. you're not a woman. and what is your view on that, that element of language that's being shifted so i'll tell you what, i'm you know, i'm not considered somebody that in the trans community, everybody's happy with, but i'm not here to be popular. >> i'm here because i believe in my own integrity and i believe in my transition helped me become a better human being as an adult . i become a better human being as an adult. i disagree with forcing people to use language that's uncomfortable for them. you know, people call me shia all the time. nana mean, look at me. it's kind of funny. i mean,

i can brush it off because i've learned to deal with the reality of the world. not everybody's going to be okay with me , and going to be okay with me, and because i'm okay with that, i walk the world so happy. but i think we're teaching with this pronoun and with this really idea that trans women are women, trans women are not women. trans women are biological males who live like women, like me . women are biological males who live like women, like me. i'm a biological female who lives my life as a male. it's very simple. and once you do that, the world embraces you because i'm not coming here to lie to you. i'm coming here to tell you ihave you. i'm coming here to tell you i have a mental disorder here called gender dysphoria that i needed to get help for . i got needed to get help for. i got the medical intervention , and the medical intervention, and now i walk the world as buck . i now i walk the world as buck. i don't world as a trans don't walk the world as a trans man. that's the other thing. these people using trans as these people are using trans as an identity . obe this is this an identity. obe this is a this is an actual medical condition that needs medicalisation in order to move fonnard. >> so what do you think about the affirmation of this to children when they, you know, because they're affirming this

instead of actually medicalizing it in a sense and treating it like, as you said, a mental kind of condition ? of condition? >> that's right. so no , that's >> that's right. so no, that's what i'm saying. affirmation therapy is not therapy. that's indoctrination. and i'm not the i want everybody to understand here. i'm not the only who feels this way. there's many of us. but as you know, we have cancel culture and we have a lot of very angry people in the trans activist community who do very dangerous things. so many people don't want to stand up and speak out like me. i'm in a very good position be able to do this position to be able to do this because many people like yourself hear me and understand what i'm trying to do. you cannot force children into a space and think at the long term they are going to be okay with that. you're going to start to see more and of these young see more and more of these young people transitioning, like the young old trans young 22 year old woman, trans woman i just interviewed. she feels like if she would have just been left alone, she might have space and who have found her space and who knows, man.

knows, maybe lived as a gay man. but she no sexual but now she has no sexual functioning . she can't even have functioning. she can't even have any intimate relationship with anybody at 22. >> that's frightening , isn't it? >> that's frightening, isn't it? awful. what a terrible, terrible thing to take away from someone. and probably never and she's probably never experienced because she it experienced sex because she it happened. started taking happened. she started taking these puberty blockers. so what is your view then, on the puberty blockers and the process that suddenly put on that people suddenly get put on to? is time to stop, in your to? is it time to stop, in your view, using puberty blockers and things that ? things like that? >> do not have any >> 100? we do not have any studies , any actually in the eu, studies, any actually in the eu, including the uk. they have shut it all down. so everyone shut it down. they know they don't see the long term studies . they see the long term studies. they see the long term studies. they see the problems happening with these young people. they understand it . here these young people. they understand it. here in the united we are ramping it united states, we are ramping it up force . and that says to up full force. and that says to me there is something very sinister going on here, because these are children . everybody. these are children. everybody. we're not talking about an adult who can make a choice. any adult can make choices they need to do. mistake, can make choices they need to do. that's mistake, can make choices they need to do. that's being mistake, can make choices they need to do. that's being an mistake, can make choices they need to do. that's being an adult|istake, can make choices they need to do. that's being an adult .stake, can make choices they need to

do. that's being an adult. wee, but that's being an adult. we have of us as adults are have all of us as adults are doing a disservice to these children because we are not understand . young kids need time understand. young kids need time . they need time to figure out who they are. could be their sexuality. it could be their genden sexuality. it could be their gender. it could also be other things that things going on with them that they're depression, they're having depression, anxiety. shoving anxiety. but we're just shoving them into space. puberty them into a space. puberty blockers do not work. they have long term, horrible effects. that woman i just interviewed told you everything she was on puberty blockers. now she has nothing. zero. >> it's terrible . and what would >> it's terrible. and what would you. we're running out of time, but it's so good to talk to you. what advice would you give to a parent who is dealing with a child dysphoric or child who is gender dysphoric or suffering with their gender identity ? identity? >> yeah. so first i want to tell the parent that i feel for you. i understand the position you're in, but would really , really, in, but i would really, really, really request that you take your time and you get lots of different opinions . bians do not different opinions. bians do not just listen to one doctor and do not take your child to affirmation therapy. take your

child to a real therapist who will push back on your child and give your child time to understand. maybe i'm just going through something big deal. you're a girl who wants to be a boy. that's totally okay. put on a different hat. put on a shirt. but once you start medicalizing, there's no turning back . there's no turning back. >> no turning back. okay. until such a pleasure to talk to you. thank much being thank you so much for being on my really appreciate it. my show. i really appreciate it. fantastic. and forget , you fantastic. and don't forget, you can check buck's podcast if can check out buck's podcast if you check. look, look for him on youtube. search for buck angel. he's a speaker, entrepreneur and educator. this is a gb views. it's fast approaching. 20 minutes after 5:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and we'll be looking at dame alison rose because a review has found that natwest group's decision to de—banking nigel farage was lawful. really so should dame alison rose get her multi—million pound payout? don't go anywhere

me, michael portillo gb news britain's new . channel britain's new. channel >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 24 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua . this is gb 5:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it's time now though, for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , this hour. and i'm asking, should dame alison rose get her big payout after the farage de—banking scandal? now the former natwest boss is up for a payout of worth 2.4 million. that's after she stepped down

following a row over the way she the way the bank closed nigel's accounts. well sort of thing. but she sort of broke the banking code as well. so that's sort of what happened there. dame also set to dame alison is also set to benefit and share benefit from bonuses and share awards, push the awards, which could push the amount up to nearer £10 million, which has been branded as a bit of a sick joke by the former ukip leader. yesterday, an independent review revealed that the closure of farage account did not follow the bank's policies, but the .decision was lawful for predominantly commercial reasons. the gb news presenter was described as described the report as a whitewash. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should dame alison rose get payout after the get a big payout after the farage scandal? get a big payout after the farage scandal ? well, farage de—banking scandal? well, joining me now to discuss personal finance and credit expert ceo fair money, expert and ceo of fair money, roger greenwald . also denis roger greenwald. also denis macshane, former labour minister for europe, vicky pryce , chief for europe, vicky pryce, chief economic adviser the centre economic adviser for the centre of and business of economic and business research, edwards , the research, and peter edwards, the former editor for the labour list going to start with list. i'm going to start with you, should should she you, roger. should should she

get and if so, why? get this money and if so, why? >> i think there are two questions. >> one is legal and the other is ethical the legal question is ethical. the legal question is one to see the actual one would have to see the actual terms of her contract and have all the facts of the case as the lawyers will, to know whether she's actually breached her employment or not. employment terms or not. >> but didn't she break the banking code, though? i mean, surely that would be a she she she has caused two breaches of the data protection act. >> and i would think that generally. >> i was just going on to say that would be enough to be a breach of any employment contract . the thing contract. the second thing is ethical and in that respect, i mean, i think that dame alison should come out personally or through her representatives with an explanation and a statement to us because we own much of that bank and it's our money. >> and tell us why she thinks she's justified. and when she's dropped the bank into such a scandal, receiving such a large payout. >> i mean, i've had arguments with bosses once or twice in my career. ca reer. >> career. >> i was even unfair sacked

once. >> but i'll tell you, i would happily resign from any job by mutual agreement for £10 million. >> who wouldn't ? vicky. vicky >> who wouldn't? vicky. vicky pryce . pryce. >> well , look at it slightly differently. >> i'm not an expert. i'm not an employment expert or a lawyer. but think more generally when you look at this is first of all, it's rather bad for women because she was. alison rose was one of the well, she was the most in most senior business woman in the city. and it's a shame to lose was also one of lose her. she was also one of the few have in the the very few ceos we have in the ftse 100. the second worry that ihave ftse 100. the second worry that i have is that it's become so political. the board was quite happy to keep her going. and yet, from what we understand, there pressure from there was a lot of pressure from number 10 elsewhere that she number 10 and elsewhere that she should go. and then suddenly we heard at the heard that she was going at the early hours of, you know, i can't remember what was. can't remember what it was. certainly hours. so certainly it was after hours. so that's . that's the other issue. >> which which is really >> um, which is which is really a if you're looking at a problem if you're looking at any decisions can be made, any decisions that can be made, you know, based on this and, you know, based on on this and, and really, you know, the, the most interesting thing for me

when you look at what has materialised . materialised. >> yes of course the figures are rather large and that's precisely what's a bit worrying that what this has exposed is the very large payouts that there are in in business and also in the city. and if you look at the actual salaries that people get given, particularly now that we have this cost of living crisis , they're living crisis, they're eye—watering. this these sums are eye—watering and they come , are eye—watering and they come, of course, after, you know, bankers bonuses have now been decontrolled . so we're now going decontrolled. so we're now going to have, you know, even bigger increases coming in the future. >> but the point is that she as roger said, she broke a couple of rules there. so should she actually be getting that money? i actually be getting that money? | . actually be getting that money? i , what think? yes i mean, what do you think? yes or you think she should or no? do you think she should be that payout, in be getting that full payout, in your view, in my view, if the contract that she has is allows that to happen because of the reasons that she has gone not being perhaps misconduct being perhaps gross misconduct or something else, then she should get it. all right. denis macshane i'm very happy to see any banks to lose their bonuses.

>> i completely agree with vicky. they've done so much damage to britain recent damage to britain in recent years. de—banking ing the years. a de—banking ing the entire not just dear entire country, not just dear old nigel. what he was doing in coutts the bank of the royal family, aristocrats . what is family, the aristocrats. what is he earl of something? the he the earl of something? the duke farage? he the earl of something? the duiwhat's rage? he the earl of something? the duiwhat's that’ he the earl of something? the duiwhat's that got to do with it? >> very it? >> very simply it? >> very simply he runs after all these for various these posh boys who for various reasons then they just treat him with contempt. i have been debunked. i've had two accounts closed by high street banks, lloyds and co—op . did i run lloyds and co—op. did i run moaning to the media? no. >> well, you should have done and exposed the scandal. if you'd and exposed the scandal. if youthat have . perhaps i >> that should have. perhaps i should. brave of to should. very brave of nigel to do brave, do that. but they're not brave, nigel. brave. it was very brave of him. huge publicity then he gets courageous . gets very courageous. >> he lost. listen, ten >> no, but he lost. listen, ten banks refused to give him an account, have account, and he could have literally. with that, literally. i mean, with that, you live really, without you cannot live really, without a account. a bank account. >> so nigel is not going to be on a free on the street looking for a free lunch. might be. lunch. well he might be. >> you can't use a credit >> if you can't use a credit card you can't your own card or you can't get your own money, you're wrong. money, i think you're wrong. >> under law,

>> there cannot under the law, not simple playback , not have a simple playback, probably you and probably like the ones you and i have. just extra money in have. but just extra money in ten banks to give him an ten banks refused to give him an account are account and those are basic banks, they are frankly banks, okay? they are frankly stupid . and if he's naming them, stupid. and if he's naming them, good luck to him naming them. i really think our banking structure in britain, the industry is worse than any i know in europe. it's on a par with bits of silicon valley and all the american banks are just so dodgy . i like all the american banks are just so dodgy. i like nigel all the american banks are just so dodgy . i like nigel owens, so dodgy. i like nigel owens, but honestly, nigel, this isn't the mt. sinai to die on. >> well, he's not dying on the mountain. in fact, he's doing very well off the mountain. but i'd to see more being done. i'd like to see more being done. peter edwards well, i don't think there should payout. think there should be a payout. >> the rules >> dame alison broke the rules and make mistakes in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we make mistakes in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we have|ake mistakes in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we have toe mistakes in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we have to belistakes in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we have to be frankzs in life >> dame alison broke the rules and we have to be frank aboutfe and we have to be frank about that. we all make mistakes. >> bank had an >> but the bank had an opportunity correct that mistake. in terms the original >> in terms of the original bbc story didn't so story, and it didn't do so immediately . immediately. >> and i think one of the other contributors mentioned politics and party politics. >> information >> well, the information commissioner is neutral figure commissioner is a neutral figure that the breached data

that found the ceo breached data protection rules twice. then look at it more broadly in terms of operate. of how banks operate. >> it's said we don't know. >> it's said we don't know. >> but it's that jeremy >> but it's said that jeremy hunt, gave hunt, the chancellor, gave a view of disapproval behind the scenes . scenes. >> criticism actually >> my criticism actually wouldn't be that the government took case. my took a view in this case. my view over last view would be that over the last decade more , the government decade or more, the government should have been more interventionist something interventionist in something that's owned the taxpayer. >> sir roger, you're just i mean, every employment contract, you know, from the lowest employee to the highest starts with the clause , thou shalt not with the clause, thou shalt not break the law . break the law. >> that's it. in a nutshell. >> that's it. in a nutshell. >> did she actually break the law ? law? >> and she broke the data protection law twice? >> yes. >> yes. >> well, that's not a criminal offence, roger. with all due respect, neither should employment . she should she employment. she should not. she briefed journalist . civil briefed a journalist. civil matter. it's roger. employment roger there did going on roger there did is going on tonight . lunches tomorrow tonight. lunches tomorrow meetings in which meetings on monday in which senior political figures and business figures will talk to senior journalists them senior journalists and tell them things that they know because they want the journalists to put

it into the public domain . it into the public domain. >> i would they shouldn't be doing that, though. >> that's judgement. can't >> that's herjudgement. i can't believe be fired, believe she should be fired, especially a bbc reporter. believe she should be fired, especiido a bbc reporter. believe she should be fired, especiido that bbc reporter. believe she should be fired, especiido that .3bc reporter. believe she should be fired, especiido that . simonyorter. believe she should be fired, especiido that . simon jack'. simon do that. simon jack referred her up and said , hey, referred her up and said, hey, that thing you told me yesterday , can i use oh, yes, dear , can i use it? oh, yes, dear boy. course you can. well, boy. of course you can. well, for sake, the world for god's sake, what the world are we living in with? people like running like that? are running major banks. peter is right then, peter. >> you know, he's right, >> i mean, you know, he's right, isn't mean, should, isn't he? i mean, she should, shouldn't get that. >> all saying we're all >> we're all saying we're all saying same thing. >> we're all saying we're all say it's. same thing. >> we're all saying we're all say it's. let'sime thing. >> we're all saying we're all say it's. let's see. .hing. >> we're all saying we're all say it's. let's see. does >> it's. let's see. does everybody you everybody agree? peter do you think get this payout you? should get this payout you? >> no, all mistakes, but >> no, we all make mistakes, but the bank could have corrected it earlier didn't. earlier and they didn't. >> rules. earlier and they didn't. >> roger, rules. earlier and they didn't. >> roger, i'm rules. earlier and they didn't. >> roger, i'm sayings. earlier and they didn't. >> roger, i'm saying she >> roger, i'm not saying she shouldn't. i said the first thing can't judge thing was legal. can't judge that the that without the facts. the second ethics . yes. second thing is ethics. yes. i think because we own the bank, she should give an explanation to herself or through her representative, we can decide to herself or through her repr(she's tive, we can decide to herself or through her repr(she's justified can decide to herself or through her repr(she's justified cartakinge why she's justified in taking whatever large sum she does. >> she would she wouldn't even nofice >> she would she wouldn't even notice that didn't have it. notice that she didn't have it. so send it back . give it to so just send it back. give it to charity, alison, shut this charity, alison, and shut this thing charity, alison, and shut this

thirso . so should she get the >> so. so should she get the money, then? >> well, to give it to charity. no that. no problems with that. >> should she get money? >> should she get the money? yes, get the money. yes, you should get the money. >> hang on give it >> hang on to hang on to give it to charity. problems with to charity. no problems with that. money. i don't that. but it's my money. i don't want my money. >> want it to to >> i don't want it to go to charity. yeah. finally, charity. and yeah. and finally, finally, should she finally, vicky pryce, should she give money? give should she get the money? i think think if she hasn't think i think if she hasn't actually rules the actually broken the rules of the bank think that bank itself and they think that her contract is such that she's entitled to it, then yes, she should get it right. well, that's their thoughts. what are yours? to yours? thank you very much to roger grove. he's a personal finance and credit expert and ceo of fair money, denis macshane, labour minister macshane, former labour minister for vicky pryce, chief for europe. vicky pryce, chief economic adviser centre economic adviser at the centre of economic business of economic and business research, and peter edwards, former the labourlist. former editor of the labourlist. so are your views? gb views so what are your views? gb views gbnews.com. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm alison i'm asking should dame alison rose payout after the rose get a big payout after the farage de—banking scandal? you will hear thoughts of my will hear the thoughts of my panel will hear the thoughts of my panel. cundy and matthew panel. lizzie cundy and matthew laterza. let's get laterza. but first, let's get your latest news with . aaron

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the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's time, though, for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , should dame and i'm asking, should dame alison a big payout alison rose get a big payout after the farage de—banking scandal? now the former natwest bossis scandal? now the former natwest boss is up for a payout and bonuses of up to £10 million after she stepped down following the row over the way the bank closed accounts held by nigel farage. but an independent review revealed that the review has revealed that the closure of farage account did not follow bank's policies not follow the bank's policies for decision lawful for for the decision was lawful for predominantly commercial reasons. the gb news presenter has described the report as a whitewash . so for the great whitewash. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should dame alison rose get big payout after the get a big payout after the farage de—banking scandal? well joining me discuss broadcast joining me to discuss broadcast from columnist lizzie and from columnist lizzie cundy and former labour adviser matthew laza , what do you think laza lizzie, what do you think about that? >> i don't think she should get about that? >1dimenn't think she should get about that? >1dime and.hink she should get about that? >1dime and also she should get about that? >1dime and also the should get about that? >1dime and also the damei get about that? >1dime and also the dame should a dime and also the dame should go as well. this woman has a few glasses of fizz and you know her mouth sings like a canary.

honestly loose lips sink ships in her case, nearly sank a bank. she broke data protection rules totally . i she broke data protection rules totally. i mean, she broke data protection rules totally . i mean, what she did in totally. i mean, what she did in her role in her position was a disgrace. and i'm sorry she should be shown the door. anyone else in any job would have been had the book thrown at them. i think it's disgusting . sting, if think it's disgusting. sting, if she gets anything at all, well , she gets anything at all, well, 10 million is quite a bit, isn't it? >> i mean, does she deserve 10 million? we own 39. >> we own. yeah. and their >> we still own. yeah. and their shares tumbling all shares have been tumbling all week of their week on the back of their handung week on the back of their handling it. i think it's handling of it. i think it's interesting. the its interesting. so the bank did its results this week they results this week and they didn't confirm that she was getting the money. so i think they're moving towards not giving to her, i agree giving it to her, which i agree with absolutely the with lizzie is absolutely the right do. and i think right thing to do. and i think particularly the information commissioner regulated, it's commissioner who regulated, it's how is handled , how all our data is handled, which is a separate to the internal report that you quoted from. they were clear that she broke that she broke on to two counts, that she broke on to two counts, that she broke confidentiality. so i think, you know, if you're the

chief executive, the buck stops here. if you're paid the big bucks you need to your behaviour's got be absolutely behaviour's got to be absolutely scrupulous as seen scrupulous. and as we've seen this week, independent from the information commissioner, she shouldn't talking shouldn't have been talking about a glass about his account after a glass or two of his lizzie. >> and if you've breached your contract, it any contract, you don't get it any money. rules. why money. that's the rules. why should be different for her? should it be different for her? and not feel sorry for and let's not feel sorry for this gets 12.4 this lady. she gets 12.4 million. paid in the million. she's been paid in the past four years. she's not going to starve. no and i think it's disgusting. well, she might struggle to get another job, i think, after this, but also also what happened nigel what happened to nigel was absolutely was so absolutely disgusting. he was so brave out and he's brave to come out and he's helped so many others since. and it's a fundamental right of anyone to have a bank account for survival . well, but she is for survival. well, but she is a disgraceful woman. and i say take away her damehood and i'm going to demand it. >> i think you should have it instead. thank you. but you instead. thank you. but can you split it? well, instead. thank you. but can you split it ? well, was instead. thank you. but can you split it? well, was looking. split it? well, i was looking. >> that you. perhaps >> i realised that you. perhaps you should have started me. >> i realised that you. perhaps youit'syuld have started me. >> i realised that you. perhaps youit's mine. we started me. >> it's mine. >> it's mine. >> it's mine now. >> it's mine now. >> i'll let. i'll let nana have it. but. but i. i can't see

anyone. >> that's because i think you should go to the lords. i think it should be baroness. well, i thought that bit late thought that was a bit late coming it was okay. coming back, but it was okay. >> say it's part >> but can i just say it's part natwest? and by the taxpayer, as you 38.6. exactly and you said, 38.6. exactly and i think we should have a say in it. and i am having a say in it. >> i think i would like i have to agree with you all. i'm sure that there are those who would argue because part of it argue that because part of it would be a pension, there are things that she's probably put money into, don't know money into, then i don't know about element it. about that element of it. the pension it should pension element of it should be able because she's able to keep. yes, because she's put this is a bonus. >> i think, isn't it? >> i think, isn't it? >> but where it comes to things like bonuses and any extra things would on, like bonuses and any extra thin reason would on, like bonuses and any extra thin reason she|ld on, like bonuses and any extra thin reason she|ld alljn, like bonuses and any extra thin reason she|ld all of the reason why she got all of that she resigned, that was because she resigned, but resign. othennise but she had to resign. othennise she sacked. and she would have been sacked. and i is the case, i think when that is the case, there argument to that there is an argument to say that that person should absolutely and rules apply and the same rules should apply to matter where to everybody, no matter where they it was somebody in a >> if it was somebody in a branch if branch who'd made a mistake, if they've any branches they've still got any branches left, opposite left, the natwest opposite my house for year left, the natwest opposite my housnthen for year left, the natwest opposite my housnthen they for year left, the natwest opposite my housnthen they would for year left, the natwest opposite my housnthen they would have year left, the natwest opposite my housnthen they would have lostr

now. then they would have lost it. they would have been treated. wouldn't kept treated. they wouldn't have kept their wouldn't treated. they wouldn't have kept their they wouldn't treated. they wouldn't have kept their they havenuldn't treated. they wouldn't have kept their they have kept�*t treated. they wouldn't have kept their they have kept their have. they would have kept their pension. course, but pension. and of course, but they wouldn't they be wouldn't have. they need to be treated that's all treated for. and that's all about society about fairness in our society because it sends the wrong signals. for signals. there's one rule for those at the and one rule those at the top and one rule for sorry, but is this for the i'm sorry, but is this the first time she's done it? >> know the first time she's done it? >> done know the first time she's done it? >> done it know the first time she's done it? >> done it before? know the first time she's done it? >> done it before? she know the first time she's done it? >> done it before? she gotw she's done it before? she got caught time, afraid caught out this time, i'm afraid she's trusted. she's not to be trusted. >> well, i also like the bank to explain, because whole explain, because the whole sort of messages were of whatsapp messages that were exposed so defamatory exposed were so defamatory towards nigel, it was absolutely abhorrent. i mean, there's still calling him grifter. they're calling him grifter. they're calling even after calling him racist even after some of them saying that, yeah , some of them saying that, yeah, they're pleased that they've, you know , hopefully one of them you know, hopefully one of them thought they have thought that they may have chased country chased him out of the country and they pleased it and they were pleased about it was this is after. >> were they still >> why were they all still talking? yes why they talking? why? yes why were they all still talking about it? haven't they got something better shouldn't be better to do? they shouldn't be doing and of doing that at all. and of course, they could just do it in reverse. could be about reverse. this could be about anybody from anywhere in politics or public life or somebody they didn't like because them because they didn't like them on the telly. >> have those people >> i'd like to have those people exposed exactly >> i'd like to have those people expo:would exactly >> i'd like to have those people expo:would like exactly >> i'd like to have those people expo:would like exac'exposed. >> i would like them exposed. and also like to expose that

and i'd also like to expose that this bank. coutts an from this bank. coutts had an mp from qatar deliver millions in a holder is fact. this holder and that is fact. this bank who thinks they're all prim and and acting like and proper and acting like judge and proper and acting like judge and so sorry, you're and jury. i'm so sorry, you're a disgrace. and know what did disgrace. and you know what did we for? the second world we fight for? the second world war? freedom speech . and you we fight for? the second world war? ihow om speech . and you we fight for? the second world war? ihow dare speech . and you we fight for? the second world war? ihow dare they ech . and you we fight for? the second world war? ihow dare they talk and you we fight for? the second world war? ihow dare they talk about'ou know, how dare they talk about nigel they did? well, i nigel the way they did? well, i just it's astounding that just think it's astounding that they they're we're they all they're saying is we're really sorry. >> practise is weren't >> the practise is weren't right. by the the legal right. oh, by the way, the legal firm that we've employed who have their have already expressed their dislike brexit now going dislike of brexit are now going to out. and yeah, to check this out. and yeah, they didn't see that there was anything , they do anything unlawful, but they do accept wrongly . accept that we acted wrongly. we're still give her we're still going to give her the well, think the >> yeah, well, i think at the moment absolutely sure moment we're not absolutely sure if think they if they are and i think they shouldn't. think a shouldn't. and i think this is a big test because things. shouldn't. and i think this is a bi natwestecause things. shouldn't. and i think this is a bi natwest customer. things. shouldn't. and i think this is a bi natwest customer. everybody. shouldn't. and i think this is a bi nati everybody ner. everybody. shouldn't. and i think this is a bi nati everybody . er. everybody. shouldn't. and i think this is a binatieverybody . you verybody. shouldn't. and i think this is a binatieverybody . you know, dy. shouldn't. and i think this is a binatieverybody . you know, we yeah, everybody. you know, we all pay bank charges and look where they're going. i think it sends totally sends out totally the wrong signal. and it's real test of signal. and it's a real test of leadership for bank and for leadership for the bank and for the make they don't. >> i don't whether, >> i don't know whether, you know, law firm know, she has hired the law firm of the late princess diana. >> oh, goodness. >> oh, goodness. >> she's not a battle ahead. >> so she's not a battle ahead. >> so she's not a battle ahead. >> she's got a battle.

>> she's got a battle. >> well, the >> well well, i think the taxpayers actually have a taxpayers should actually have a say seeing as the bank owned say seeing as the bank are owned . largest majority . we are the largest majority shareholder if speak, shareholder. and if we speak, she's got nothing. she hasn't got to that got the chance to do that because most people got the chance to do that becaussay, most people got the chance to do that becaussay, no, most people got the chance to do that becaussay, no, no, )st people got the chance to do that becaussay, no, no, butweople would say, no, no, but this shows without shows nothing without you and your welcome some your views. let's welcome some of british voices of our great british voices on it's opportunity be it's their opportunity to be on the and what they the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing i've got discussing today. i've only got three to three of you. what happened to number four? right. a nice number four? right. it's a nice it's box. you see, when it's a nice box. you see, when there's of you, it doesn't there's three of you, it doesn't look going start look so good. i'm going to start with duggan. you're with you, brian duggan. you're there in solihull. yes. am i right? alison rose. should right? dame alison rose. should she her some £10 million? no she get her some £10 million? no she get her some £10 million? no she should not. >> and in fact, i believe the board initially said that she should continue in place , which should continue in place, which actually brings their suitability into question as well . well. >> um, i think the truth had to be extracted in this affair . be extracted in this affair. >> nana. if truth be told, um, almost like a stubborn molar . almost like a stubborn molar. um, and this is a person who , um, and this is a person who, uh, revealed and named client to

a journalist and went into to the specifics of that client's holdings in the bank. and that's a clear breach and violation of client confidentiality . clear client confidentiality. clear unsuitability . and it's totally unsuitability. and it's totally wrong . and she shouldn't get wrong. and she shouldn't get another penny right . another penny right. >> well, let's bring on alan cook. he's a new great british voice. oh, welcome . you're there voice. oh, welcome. you're there in london. alan, what's your thoughts ? thoughts? >> well, answer should >> uh, well, the answer should be no. yes yes. >> and it's the wrong question . >> and it's the wrong question. >> and it's the wrong question. >> oh, is it so this will be the last time a great british voice actually, alan, it's a great show. >> why is she why is she still not being sacked ? not being sacked? >> no, she was allowed to resign i >> and that is the problem. she's now on gardening leave, so she's to going work out the rest of her notice period, which is where that 2.4 million comes from. >> she potentially will have bonuses of 2.9 million. >> but the biggest chunk is the unvested share size, which is

5.2 million. and now the unvested shares are shares, which are put aside for an employee. >> but not given them to them. and until certain criteria are met or conditions. >> and so conditions may be, you know, you have to de—banking 25 centre right politicians as to get your unvested shares or it may be just the fact that you've worked for the company for another year so you get your share options . share options. >> so that is the biggest lump. but you know, why was she not sacked ? everyone she's sacked? everyone thinks she's committed gross misconduct. so no, i think the actual question should be, one, why wasn't she sacked? two, why did howard davies not go as well? who is the chair of the whole group? >> i think he's going next next year working with me. >> so he's been allowed to work that out and then he's going. but to be honest, the majority of the board should have gone and i think it's like an inward

leaning building. they're all leaning building. they're all leaning on each other. if they get rid of her, we've got the whole thing. >> but they won't get rid of your thinking, though. >> and i agree with you. she should have been sacked, but i don't know why they didn't do that. that's could that. but that's so she could collect this that was the collect all this that was the whole thing. jonathan. collect all this that was the wh(they ing. jonathan. collect all this that was the wh(they ing. followm. >> they will follow her. >> they will follow her. >> would the way out. >> jonathan jones yeah, very quickly. >> no, think definitely >> no, no, i think definitely should have been sacked. >> that, i think >> but worse than that, i think there's something very strange going these going on when all these big corporations don't really understand free speech is understand what free speech is they're all talking about. well, in fact they're liberal in fact they're very liberal with leaking secrets about their customers . but what about just customers. but what about just good old fashioned free speech? people talk about but you people talk about it, but you know what? do what you're know what? you do what you're doing now is proper free doing right now is proper free speech. and these corporates speech. and these big corporates should it and support speech. and these big corporates standi it and support speech. and these big corporates stand stop it and support speech. and these big corporates stand stop giving it and support speech. and these big corporates stand stop giving people support speech. and these big corporates stand stop giving people likenort it and stop giving people like nigel hard time , get a nigel such a hard time, get a cup tea and settle down and cup of tea and settle down and talk other. cup of tea and settle down and taliwe're other. cup of tea and settle down and taliwe're waiting r. cup of tea and settle down and taliwe're waiting for that. >> we're waiting for that. i left my cup back. i've only got a . i forgot my cup. sorry, a glass. i forgot my cup. sorry, jonathan, yeah. great. jonathan, but yeah. great. i love thank you very much. love it. thank you very much. that's there.

that's jonathan jones there. cornwall, dugan and alan cornwall, brian dugan and alan cooke. good to talk to you. those are great british those are my great british voices. the quick voices. now we'll do the quick one. that caught one. this is a story that caught my eye today. itv reportedly updated their hr to updated their hr policy to question over personal question staff over personal relationships workplace relationships in the workplace in the phillip in the wake of the phillip schofield affair. so what do you think then? because he was with a colleague, the broadcasters reportedly asking its staff to declare any offers. associate ations, whether romantic or completely platonic. so should office be declared? office romances be declared? lizzie cundy no , no, not at all. lizzie cundy no, no, not at all. >> that's my business. and why would i? no, not at all. and they're not going to tell the truth. no anyway, you're truth. no anyway, if you're asked seeing someone asked and you're seeing someone else in the office, i certainly wouldn't tell anyone i'd keep it secret . secret squirrel. do secret. secret squirrel. do you mean. mean are our romances >> do you mean are our romances going to have to secret? going to have to stay secret? listen. >> think darling . >> i think so, darling. >> i think so, darling. >> out. wouldn't admit it i >> not in my suit, mate. lizzie's mum has told her off for abusing my jacket. i'm quite right . lizzie's for abusing my jacket. i'm quite right. lizzie's mum is for abusing my jacket. i'm quite right . lizzie's mum is always right. lizzie's mum is always spot on. i finished the show. >> my mum, if i call her and if she doesn't answer it, i know

there's something that i've done wrong. >> oh oh, oh, oh. >> oh oh, oh, oh. >> it'll be something like. well you'll make up all your wigs wonky . wonky. >> the wigs work right now. >> the wigs work right now. >> it's time for the quick fire quiz . it's >> it's time for the quick fire quiz. it's the part of the >> it's time for the quick fire quiz . it's the part of the show quiz. it's the part of the show where i test the panel on some of the other stories hitting the headunes of the other stories hitting the headlines right joining headlines right now. joining me to lizzie cundy, your headlines right now. joining me to pleasezie cundy, your headlines right now. joining me to please and jndy, your headlines right now. joining me to please and matthewr headlines right now. joining me to please and matthew laza . buzzer. please and matthew laza. right. and please play along at home. right? so this is question one. what's the name of the prominent border crossing between gaza and egypt? is it, a. between gaza and egypt? is it, a, taba, b, rafah, or c, sinai matthew laza b, rafah, b, rafah. >> lizzie cundy it's b, rafah is it? >> b rafah? it is in fact. b rafah. well done. you're absolutely correct. question two which losing candidate left the results ceremony at a by—election whilst the winner was giving their speech. was it a cooper ? b festus a andrew cooper? b festus akabusi or c, lucy cartwright? you what? you pressed it. i did . you what? you pressed it. i did. so i'm going to have to go to lizzie. >> it's a is it a it is a which

would have been. >> we're both so good one he needs to learn some manners . you needs to learn some manners. you learn the manners, though, and your mum won't be happy. i've got very rude seat. yes got very rude of this seat. yes so he was the so andrew cooper, he was the tory in tamworth. tory candidate in tamworth. andrew of the door andrew bolted out of the door immediately after it was announced . that was disgraceful. announced. that was disgraceful. i would do exactly the same thing. >> would you? oh, no, that's not. that's not sporty one. >> don't care. i didn't. >> i don't care. i didn't. >> i don't care. i didn't. >> know whenever your party >> you know whenever your party you're and you're meant to stand there and take manner makes take no manner that makes the man like in the war time. >> i'll be like in the war time. i won't be the one that goes. i'll be like that made me question three. true or false? donald trump was fined $20,000 in his second gag order violation . oh, i don't. violation. oh, i don't. >> lizzie. lizzie was premature there, so. yes. oh telltale tips on no, you go on. yes, true . on no, you go on. yes, true. true, true. >> i was going to take your first answer, which was yes. which wasn't. what the question was. but if we're going to be pernickety, it's 2—1. yes, that's true. it is that's right. it is true. it is true actually it's

true indeed. actually no, it's false. i was 10,000 was making you feel good. false. i was 10,000 was making youltzel good. false. i was 10,000 was making you it was ood. false. i was 10,000 was making you it was ten false. i was 10,000 was making youit was ten grand. >> it was ten grand. >> it was ten grand. >> serves me right. >> that serves me right. >> that serves me right. >> there you go. i'm hanging my headin >> there you go. i'm hanging my head in shame. >> so you're totally wrong. so it's it's 1—1 >> so you're totally wrong. so it's it's1—1 it's 1—1. it's not 2—1. it's1—1 it's 1—1. yeah for yeah okay. it's a question for the court in which the supreme court in which country to legalise country just refused to legalise same marriage. it same sex marriage. was it a india , b, germany or c, ghana ? india, b, germany or c, ghana? oh, lizzie cundy. c, garner. garner. what do you think? >> it's a, india? is it a india? >> it's a, india? is it a india? >> it's a, india? is it a india? >> it is. in fact, no. i'm from ghana. it's india. >> it is. in fact, no. i'm from ghana. it's india . i'm not from ghana. it's india. i'm not from ghana. it's india. i'm not from ghana from newcastle, but my parents are. so newcastle, newcastle, newcastle . newcastle, newcastle. >> oh, i'm on a ruler. >> oh, i'm on a ruler. >> yeah, that's what i can say. right court has declined to right the court has declined to legitimise same sex marriage, but accepted the but has accepted the government's to set up a government's offer to set up a panel to consider granting more legal to sex couples legal rights to same sex couples . okay. so question 5—5, which animal has been dubbed britain's loneliest is it? a the o? animal has been dubbed britain's loneliest is it? a the 0? is it a highland cow ? b, a goat or c, a highland cow? b, a goat or c, a highland cow? b, a goat or c, a sheep? >> matthew laza. c, a sheep. >> matthew laza. c, a sheep. >> a sheep. >> a sheep. >> oh, i'm to . going

>> oh, i'm to. going >> oh, i'm to. going >> is a sheep. it's a sheep. the sheep was a highland cow. >> i thought you were talking about nicola sturgeon. sorry. >> lizzie , don't say >> oh, no. oh, lizzie, don't say that. apologies to nicola. sorry, sorry, sorry. she's not. she's one of the krankies. oh apologies to nicola. >> she's passed her driving test the first this week . the first time this week. >> i'm very sorry. no, she has just passed driving test at just passed her driving test at the 53 because hope the age of 53 because she's hope for yet . because she wanted for me yet. because she wanted independence. wanted nana. independence. she wanted nana. >> very good. >> thanks. oh, very good. i missed it. thank you. on today's show, i've been asking will issues israel be issues surrounding israel be labour's undoing ? and according labour's undoing? and according to our twitter poll, 70% of you say yes , it will. i agree with say yes, it will. i agree with you. 30% of you say no . say a you. 30% of you say no. say a huge thank you to my panel, lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so much. thank you. and a huge lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so muyouthank you. and a huge lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so muyou tomk you. and a huge lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so muyou to matthewmd a huge lizzie cundy. lizzie, thank you so muyou to matthew laszlo. jge thank you to matthew laszlo. thank you, matthew. thank you very . very much. >> it was fun, as always. >> and it was fun, as always. and as ever. >> a huge you you at >> a huge thank you to you at home company. it's so home for your company. it's so wonderful home for your company. it's so wonderplease home for your company. it's so wonder please join home for your company. it's so wonderplease join me tomorrow listen, please join me tomorrow at same time, same place. at the same time, same place. i'll kelly i'll be joined by danny kelly and christine hamilton. if you missed the show, don't forget you catch up on youtube or

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northwards overnight . elsewhere, northwards overnight. elsewhere, a continuation of those heavy showers, though, fewer making their way inland and staying more confined to southern and western coasts for the second half of the weekend. so a bit more in the way of sunshine and feeling pleasant in that sunshine with highs of 14 to 15 in the south. now, as we move on to the new week, it's a bit of a cloudy start again with further showers around, but mostly going to be around the coasts. so the further inland are, the further inland you are, the better of seeing better chance you have of seeing some spells into the new some sunny spells into the new week remaining fairly unsettled , week remaining fairly unsettled, though, throughout next week, maybe from the maybe a bit of respite from the showers tuesday and becoming showers on tuesday and becoming colder the . north colder in the. north >> ujit. we're for here the show . for energy this time . . for energy this time. >> welcome to the dinosaur hour. i was married to a therapist and you survived . i thought we were you survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie second best. i'm bellissima. you interviewed saddam hussein. what's that

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as ghosts to gather in one place. yes, i did hear myself saying that out loud. all of that and plenty of chat with my excellent panellist , andrew excellent panellist, andrew eborn. but first, an update on the latest news from arron armstrong from . it's 6:00. armstrong from. it's 6:00. >> very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. gaza suffered its heaviest bombardments since the conflict began with artillery

fire and airstrikes pounding the