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former top adviser , nigel her former top adviser, nigel gardiner. plus ann widdecombe , gardiner. plus ann widdecombe, the pundits, tomorrow's papers and more reaction to the shock passing of friends star matthew perry with live from . ten away perry with live from. ten away. let's get to work. it's 10:00 on tv, on radio and online in the united kingdom. and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. in my take at ten, why the woke left? don't realise that by supporting hamas terror they are the turkeys voting for christmas . as our national christmas. as our national broadcaster is mocked worldwide for its handling of the israel crisis , has the bbc become a crisis, has the bbc become a global laughing stock and as next week's king's speech sees a bonfire of eco policies as could ditching net zero save rishi sunak premiership, i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister politics legend ann widdecombe .
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politics legend ann widdecombe. plus, what would margaret thatcher be advising rishi sunak to do to win the next election? i'll be asking her former top adviser , sir nigel gardiner , and adviser, sir nigel gardiner, and tomorrow's newspaper front pages and reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits . so tonight's top pundits. so a packed show, lots to get through my take at ten is on the way. i'll be dealing with the woke left and i'm not pulling my punches. first the headlines and aaron armstrong . on aaron armstrong. on >> very good evening to you. it's aaron armstrong here in the newsroom . israel claimed to have newsroom. israel claimed to have killed dozens of militants in direct clashes with hamas in northern gaza. the israeli military says the hamas fighters were killed leaving a tunnel near the erez crossing, which previously linked gaza to israel . the idf says it's been massively bombarding gaza from the air to ensure the safety of its forces on the ground and to eliminate , in its words, eliminate, in its words, terrorist infrastruc future. its
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spokesperson daniel hagari , once spokesperson daniel hagari, once again urged residents to move south for their own safety . south for their own safety. >> kohanim over the last two weeks, we have been calling on residents of the northern gaza strip and gaza city to relocate southward, temporarily relocating southward is for their personal safety . their personal safety. >> we are today emphasising that this is an urgent call among the hostages are foreign workers , hostages are foreign workers, not a small number of them. for whom the process of identification and reaching families is complicated for us. it is taking us time to build up this picture . this picture. >> we can begum amte power, s.a. >> we can begum amte power, s.a. >> well, the un's warning that civil order in gaza is beginning to collapse after thousands of people broke into aid depots in a desperate search for basic supplies. unwra the un agency for palestinian refugees , says for palestinian refugees, says it's an indication people in gaza have reached breaking point. residents have endured israeli bombardment as some communications, though, have now been restored after a total blackout. the palestinian red
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crescent says israel has told them to immediately evacuate the al—quds hospital , which has al—quds hospital, which has around 400 patients and some 14,000 people taking refuge there. the health ministry there says just over 8000 people have been killed since the beginning of the war. it's unlikely any labour mps will be sacked due to disagreements with the party's position on israel. that's according to the shadow science secretary. peter says the secretary. peter kyle says the party's leadership will probably continue engaging with frontbenchers , despite frontbenchers, despite disagreements with sir keir starmer . disagreements with sir keir starmer. he's disagreements with sir keir starmer . he's echoed the un's starmer. he's echoed the un's call for a humanitarian pause in fighting and for aid to be allowed into gaza. but many senior figures want him to go further and back a full ceasefire. matthew perry's family have said they're heartbroken following the loss of their son at the age of 54. forget him , gnosis. forget him, gnosis. >> the way to quit smoking is you have to dance naked in a field heather then bathe field of heather and then bathe in sweat of six healthy in the sweat of six healthy young men or what my father calls thursday night. the
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hollywood actor star of the sitcom friends was found by police at his home. >> in an apparent drowning. he became a household name as chandler bing alongside his five central co—stars in the iconic 1990 show. in a statement , his 1990 show. in a statement, his family said matthew brought so much joy to the world an much joy to the world as an actor and a friend, you all meant so much to him, they said. and appreciate the tremendous and we appreciate the tremendous outpouring and matthew outpouring of love. and matthew perry open in the past perry had been open in the past about struggles with about his struggles with painkillers and alcohol addiction . well, that's it for addiction. well, that's it for the moment. i'll be back with more news a little later. for now, it's over to . mark rest in peace. >> matthew perry, a giant of television comedy. welcome to mark dolan tonight. as our national broadcaster is mocked worldwide for handling the israel crisis in such an egregious manner, has the bbc become a global laughing stock ? become a global laughing stock? as next week's king's speech
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sees a bonfire of eco policies? could ditching net zero save rishi sunak premiership? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former government minister politics legend ann widdecombe . politics legend ann widdecombe. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits ring side this evening, politics consultant emma burnell journalist linda jubilee and social worker and broadcaster yosef davids. what would margaret thatcher be advising rishi sunak to do to win the next election? i'll be asking her former top adviser, sir nigel gardiner, live in the studio in a brand new sunday segment called the last word . segment called the last word. and today is national cat day. so send me pictures of your mark at gbnews.com here is producer maria's lovely cat, her babies, nancy and winston watching gb news news. they've got great taste and here's my little kitty, harry. so we'll be showing yours after every break tonight. so keep them coming. your cat pictures and mark at
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gbnews.com from a packed hour. those papers are coming. but first, my take . at ten. any first, my take. at ten. any crisis reveals someone's true character . and we saw it during character. and we saw it during the pandemic. those who backed common sense in liberty and evidence based science versus dogma , ideology and ultimately dogma, ideology and ultimately tyranny. and in just three weeks since the horrific terror attack on israel, the death of over 1400 people, including 260 at a music festival , all so the woke music festival, all so the woke left the be kind crowd who are much better humans than you and me , have shown their true me, have shown their true colours attending marches and by implication cheering on the murder, rape and torture of innocent civilians . a band of innocent civilians. a band of psychopaths. our national broadcaster can't even bring themselves to call terrorists, even though they have only one goal even though they have only one goal. hamas want it. genocide.
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this is rebadged to which the liberal progressives have either turned a blind eye or effectively supported , and the effectively supported, and the be kind militia call everyone that they don't like except but actual . and now with a twist in actual. and now with a twist in actual. and now with a twist in a heartless response to the human horrors of october the seventh, they've revealed their true nature. the mask has supped true nature. the mask has slipped out. this is the moment that wokeism jumped the shark. and truly lost the plot . the and truly lost the plot. the historian niall ferguson points out in today's mail newspaper that the response progressives have made to the kidnapping of holocaust survivors the burning alive of bodies , the gouging out alive of bodies, the gouging out of eyes, the rape of women, the parading of corpses on the back of pickup trucks and the beheading of babies has dramatic , increased awareness of this toxic brand of leftism with its de facto support for these mediaeval murderers in the middle east. wokeism has both
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revealed itself and overplayed its hand . and now it may well be its hand. and now it may well be true that israel has a case to answer for its treatment of palestinian people and a two state solution in which israelis and palestinians can live in harmony, must be the holy grail. but calling for a ceasefire is another chilling manoeuvre from those caring sharing types because it demonstrates a total ignorance of the history and politics of the middle east and a total lack of empathy for the existential threat that jews and israel now face. if hamas don't have a strategic goal in the region, they don't want a two state solution. they want a no state solution. they want a no state solution. they want a no state solution and they want to wipe all jews off the planet. and what these idiots marching in western cities don't realise is that the people who hate jews and hate israel hate us too, too. so israel's war is our war. if hamas and their ilk cannot be
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eliminated, we will be next in line for their murder spree. take those queers for palestine. have you ever seen anything more ridiculous in your life ? if ridiculous in your life? if hamas got hold of these gay and trans people, they would be eliminated faster than you can say vegan sausage roll . this say vegan sausage roll. this talk of ceasefire is a total red herring and up there with the appeasement of hitler in the 1930, ism had to be defeated and so does this. a ceasefire is effectively asking israel to be a sitting duck to more terror, a ceasefire is snake oil language . ceasefire is snake oil language. it's doublespeak for israel . it's doublespeak for israel. suckit it's doublespeak for israel. suck it up . now, i have a bit of suck it up. now, i have a bit of sympathy for keir starmer, who believes in israel's right to self—defence . whilst many in his self—defence. whilst many in his party do not, starmer is between a rocket and a hard place . but a rocket and a hard place. but what's clear is that the thousands of people in britain marching on the streets every weekend , some of whom are weekend, some of whom are calling for a holy war, is a
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direct assault on the values of this country, of democracy , of this country, of democracy, of the rule of law, of tolerance and of decency . those woke and of decency. those woke idiots don't realise that by cheering it on, they'll be next. they are turkeys voting for christmas and eventually they'll get stuffed . now let's get the get stuffed. now let's get the views of my top pundits this evening. political consultant and playwright emma burnell journalist and broadcaster linda jubilee and social worker and political commentator yosef david yosef. can i start with you? your reaction to the woke left's response to the attacks on the 7th of october? well all at risk of being accused of trying to ingratiate myself with the host, i have to say that i thought your monologue was fantastic and i agreed with everything said. everything you said. >> the woke left have a lot to answer regard the answer for with regard to the events this country over the events in this country over the past they position
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past two weeks. they position themselves and present themselves and present themselves people who themselves as people who advocate for minority groups , advocate for minority groups, but they've been unable to stand with the jewish community, even though they fear , though they know that fear, depression, trauma is widespread . and we have to say that these people who are presenting themselves as trying to advocate for minority communities have managed to ignore the jewish community. and we can look at the self—righteousness in which the self—righteousness in which the people who have pulled down posters of kidnapped israeli children have acted. they actually believe they are on the right side of history. it can definitely be said that woke ideology has led to an increase in anti—semitism far from treating jews like the vulnerable minority, they are in actual fact, organisations like blm have termed the jews as a powerful group who gag the media. >> emma burnell your reaction to what your colleagues on the left, some of your friends have donein left, some of your friends have done in response to what happened earlier this month ?
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happened earlier this month? >> well, i'm a bit old to be friends with the people who are on college campuses . on college campuses. >> look, i think the key thing is to differentiate between those who have genuine empathy and sympathy for the palestinian people as well as the israeli people as well as the israeli people , both of whose sides are people, both of whose sides are suffering terrible trauma , pain suffering terrible trauma, pain and loss. and we should never forget that that is true on both sides. and those idiots who are just being what is essentially a useful idiot for a terrorist group, which is hamas and i think that the majority of people who might be tempted to go on a demonstration calling for peace are probably in the first category, but that they're too easily kind of , you know, too easily kind of, you know, lumped in together with the with the useful idiots. so i think there are problems with calling for a ceasefire because , for a ceasefire because, frankly, hamas are not going to offer one. ceasefires have to be
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in agreement by both sides . but in agreement by both sides. but i do think that calling for humanitarian pause, calling for aid to be able to get into the innocent people, innocent civilians of palestine is essential and it will be essential and it will be essential for the humanity of the israeli people fighting the war that they can feel that they have done so in a just way ultimately , and i think we all ultimately, and i think we all agree on this , the end goal has agree on this, the end goal has to be peace. the end goal has to be a two state solution on how we get there from here. that's a long, hard road, but it has to start with seeing how we can maintain all of our humanity and our empathy for everyone who's suffering . suffering. >> indeed, linda, these people have been going on pro—palestinian marches at which people have been calling for a complete jihad , a holy war. the complete jihad, a holy war. the destruction of jews. and of course, there's been no condemnation from these same
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people about what happened on the 7th of october. i don't need to remind everyone watching and listening that babies have been beheaded, women raped , dead beheaded, women raped, dead bodies paraded on the back of pickup trucks . the woke left pickup trucks. the woke left have failed to condemn these actions. so is this the moment that wokeism jumped the shark and lost the plot ? and lost the plot? >> i don't think it will be the moment actually. i mean, it is a moment actually. i mean, it is a moment . i moment actually. i mean, it is a moment. i think what's happening here is that you've got some very, very big demonstrate actions within those big demonstrate actions. i'm told by security experts that i've spoken to this week , there are spoken to this week, there are really, really troublesome elements. and that's the problem . um, because they have, they are toxic outlook kind of infects other people. you know a lot of the people on those protest marches it's not that they're , you know, desperately they're, you know, desperately woke many, many of those people have watched those images on television , on on both sides of television, on on both sides of this terrible conflict . and they
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this terrible conflict. and they are extremely upset . but the are extremely upset. but the problem is that they can be pushed and persuaded and used. and that's a very , very and that's a very, very difficult thing. now emma is quite right in thinking that maybe we should call for a humanitarian pause . but the humanitarian pause. but the trouble is, these are only words is a pause to allow aid in is in effect, a ceasefire. and the problem is here that we are in a military conflict . and the military conflict. and the problem, therefore , is that at problem, therefore, is that at this stage, before any objective has actually been achieved by israel is very difficult in military terms to have a ceasefire. that's the conundrum that faces people. >> okay . well, listen, folks, >> okay. well, listen, folks, we've got lots more to come, including tomorrow's papers, when this story will doubtless reappear here. but next up, has the bbc become a global laughing stock ? and is rishi sunak right stock? and is rishi sunak right to double down on anti—green policies ? i'll be asking policies? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , former tonight's newsmaker, former government minister ann widdecombe is
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regulation in earlier on gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back to the show. the papers at 1030 sharp. but it is national cat day so you've been sending pictures of your to at gbnews.com quite revealing. i can't lie . i'll be saving some can't lie. i'll be saving some of them onto the hard drive of my computer. sharon's lovely cat is called boris is nearly as handsome as the actual boris gorgeous , gorgeous cat. gorgeous, gorgeous cat. congratulations, sharon . how congratulations, sharon. how about jennifer's kitty? pippa, have a little sleep. they're in a gorgeous position . a lovely a gorgeous position. a lovely charcoal colour. you've got gorgeous cats. more of your cats to come, but it's time now for the newsmaker. and following its fortnight long refusal to describe hamas as terrorists, even they entered israel even though they entered israel on the 7th of october and claimed over 1400 lives and after wrongly pointing the finger at israel for the bombing of a hospital in gaza which left led to 300 deaths, has the bbc become the laughing stock of the
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world? well, they certainly are in israel, where some of their top comedy stars have released a sketch mocking our national broadcast . its hilarious. take a broadcast. its hilarious. take a listen . listen. >> good evening from london. here are some news from the war in gaza. israel has bombed a hospital, killing hundreds of innocent people . innocent people. >> more and more , much better. >> more and more, much better. with more details, our middle east correspondent harry white. >> guilt. >> guilt. >> good evening , rachel. from >> good evening, rachel. from the illegal colony of tel aviv, israel officials have denied bombing the hospital, but we have video footage showing what really happened. indeed . really happened. indeed. >> absolutely shocking. harry so are the bbc a laughing stock? >> i thought that was a brilliant sketch. but let's get the views now of tonight's newsmaker, former government minister and television
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personnel , ann widdecombe and personnel, ann widdecombe and the bbc have become the story, haven't they? and they're being laughed at. this is a problem . laughed at. this is a problem. >> they are . i mean, nobody >> they are. i mean, nobody takes them seriously or very few people take them seriously . and people take them seriously. and whereas they used to have a voice that was real authority. and if you wanted the facts, you listened to the bbc and you, you know, the days of the great broadcasters like richard dimbleby , robin day, you believe dimbleby, robin day, you believe what was being said , but the bbc what was being said, but the bbc is over many years. there's nothing new about this . and it's nothing new about this. and it's nothing new about this. and it's not been peculiar to any government over the years. the bbc has become gradually more and more left wing . if you look and more left wing. if you look at its reporting during covid, you know, there was the government line very clearly printed saying , you know, not printed saying, you know, not all these deaths were due to covid. it was simply people who had tested positive within 28 days or whatever the period was . days or whatever the period was. and the bbc used to say in terms
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these people who had died of covid. now that is straightfonnard misreport nothing, and it's the beeb and they do that all the time in numerous ways. but to have actually refused to call hamas a terrorist organisation , treating terrorist organisation, treating it as if it's a country me and it as if it's a country me and it really mustn't take sides against terrorism that i think will have convinced a lot of people that the bbc is just thoroughly lost its way . and thoroughly lost its way. and well, you know, i mean, all the all the pressure is for a ceasefire . israel cannot have ceasefire. israel cannot have a ceasefire. israel cannot have a ceasefire. israel cannot have a ceasefire. israel is fighting a war which it's got to win. and you know, letting hamas simply regroup and, you know, and regather the by giving a ceasefire to is a piece of lunacy . they've got to win this war. >> now, anne, as a former home office minister, prisons minister, you've doubtless sat
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in on cobra style meetings . the in on cobra style meetings. the bbc wrongly pointed the finger at israel for the bombing of a gaza hospital. tragically 300 deaths. now the beeb corrected their position days later , but their position days later, but their position days later, but the damage was done. a proper ganda coup for hamas. yes they they just went in where angels fear to tread and said, you know, this is the answer and this is what happened. >> and then of course , you know, >> and then of course, you know, when there's a cooler analysis and a proper examination the and a proper examination of the evidence as it transpires, that's not what happened at all. well, why couldn't they wait? is it the pressure of having it just the pressure of having to melodramatic and, you to be melodramatic and, you know, get melodramatic news out immediately or is it simply that they've lost it altogether? the perspective of proper , impartial perspective of proper, impartial , careful, analytical reporting, if they know the meaning of any of those words? >> well, anne, you said the word impartial. is it an anti—israel bias at the beeb ?
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bias at the beeb? >> i think that is pretty evident. habib would deny it, but i think in the way that they have approached the nomenclature of hamas than not calling it terrorism, the way that they have reported israel daily activity, as if it is a fact , activity, as if it is a fact, and then it's later shown not to be, or the emphasis hugely on the civilian casualties in gaza . the civilian casualties in gaza. i mean, never mind what's going on in israel . i mean, never mind what's going on in israel. i i mean, never mind what's going on in israel . i yeah , i mean, never mind what's going on in israel. i yeah , i i mean, never mind what's going on in israel . i yeah , i would on in israel. i yeah, i would say they haven't been impartial on this. i would say it's something that ofcom actually ought to look at. >> the bbc broadcast hundreds of hours of radio and television a week . they have argued that when week. they have argued that when it comes to calling hamas terrorists, they've stressed the importance of not taking sides and have argued that they have followed journalistic protocol. and regarding the hospital tragedy gaza , they've tragedy in gaza, they've identified their mistake . and of identified their mistake. and of course, all journalists do make mistakes . anne, let's talk about mistakes. anne, let's talk about the prime minister now, if we
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can.the the prime minister now, if we can. the observer are reporting that rishi sunak will use next week's kings speech to advance the expansion of north sea oil and gas exploration as well as pro—car policies in the hope of opening up a clear divide over the green agenda with labour. is it the right thing to do and will it work ? oh. will it work? oh. >> oh. i mean, i assume that the conservative party has actually been watching and listening to reform uk and has seen the popularity of some of its measures and it began with ulez of course, and now they're looking beyond that. i mean, people will put up with anything as long as it's government spending because they think that's somehow nothing to do with them when they have to spend money on boilers and on new cars and all the rest of it. when they have to do that. and it actually hits home, then they're much less keen on all this theory and theory is what it is. there is no absolutely no
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evidence, whatever, that if we don't do something by 2035, it will be too late. there is no evidence of that. >> so could this policy, this slight reversal on net zero, deliver dividends for rishi sunakin deliver dividends for rishi sunak in a year's time? could it move the dial for him politically ? politically? >> i think it could. i think people will find it a bit cynical because he's always sung the merits of net zero. i think they'll find it a bit cynical , they'll find it a bit cynical, but given that keir starmer is sticking with the net zero targets and is sticking with all the policies which will impact so heavily on ordinary citizens and particularly on citizens who aren't that well off. i think yes, it could open up some ground. perhaps he'd now like to listen to reform uk on a few other things as well and open up a bit more brand. >> more importantly, listen to ann widdecombe pearls of wisdom every sunday night at 1015 and we'll catch you in a week's time. thank you so much for joining us. coming up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages
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there's top down. yeah earlier on gb news radio . on gb news radio. >> welcome back to the show. it is national cat day, so you've been sending pictures of your kitties . these are jacqueline's kitties. these are jacqueline's kitties. these are jacqueline's kitties. they are siblings . hugo kitties. they are siblings. hugo and heidi. what fine thoroughbreds. they look like . thoroughbreds. they look like. and mel's 18 year old rescue nanu , another fabulous one. and nanu, another fabulous one. and how about sheena's lovely girl , how about sheena's lovely girl, poppy, how about sheena's lovely girl, poppy, who's watching mark dolan tonight and her fur a lot more orderly than mine . tonight and her fur a lot more orderly than mine. thank you for those brilliant pictures . we've those brilliant pictures. we've got more at 1045. we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight. people's poll i've been asking has the bbc
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become a global laughing stock? the results are in. and i'm afraid to say that more than 75% say yes. and fewer than 24% say no . okay, folks , we'll look lots no. okay, folks, we'll look lots to get through. nigel gardner and margaret thatcher's former adviser live in the studio in just a few minutes time. what would the iron lady be advising our current prime minister for? but first, this . and we start but first, this. and we start with the times newspaper , un with the times newspaper, un warning on gaza as desperation takes hold . the conflict has takes hold. the conflict has accelerated terror threat to britain is the other headline in the sun newspaper next. matthew perry dead at 54. friend to the end star found in his hot tub. a—list pals heartbroken daily express. now we've lost a friend. heartbroken stars pay tribute to matthew perry after death at 54, in a hot tub . and death at 54, in a hot tub. and as humanitarian crisis in gaza
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grows more desperate, iran un warns that the war may spread middle east on precipice as three uneasy cities swap united away in the united manchester, i should say the manchester derby, a big strong victory there for man city. also un says civil order in gaza is starting to break down. matthew perry, 1969 to 2023. metrosexual iconic actor who captured the spirit of an age daily star now and they lead with rover knows when you'll get home because dogs can tell the time by smell with woof, woof . i make it time tell the time by smell with woof, woof. i make it time for a treat says the dog on the front front page of the star. the mystery of why dogs are always waiting for us when we get home has been solved. they can actually smell the time . i'm i actually smell the time. i'm i can smell the time to . it's can smell the time to. it's coming up to 11:23. let's have a look at the metro . matthew
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look at the metro. matthew perry. we've lost a great friend, of course, a wonderful actor, comedy actor , one of the actor, comedy actor, one of the great stars of friends . and may great stars of friends. and may he rest in peace for all times. israeli forces gradually expanding gaza , ground assault expanding gaza, ground assault against hamas. expanding gaza, ground assault against hamas . okay, folks, against hamas. okay, folks, let's get a reaction to those headunes let's get a reaction to those headlines from my top pundits. ringside tonight. political consultant emma burnell journalist linda jubilee and political commentator and social worker joseph de covid. lots to sink our teeth into, but un warning. linda on gaza as desperation takes hold and things are getting worse. i've heard figures of 7000 palestinians have lost their lives. is it approaching eight now? the death toll grows and a crisis that could spread beyond the middle east. >> absolutely . i mean, we're >> absolutely. i mean, we're thinking mainly about iran here. but just to go back to what's
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happening with with some some food that gets in, of course, people are so despot right now that they've started raiding the depots that point, depots. i mean, at that point, you're really looking at civil disorder . you're looking at the disorder. you're looking at the breakdown of all society . and i breakdown of all society. and i think we're right on the edge of that happening. i think we'll see even more tomorrow. well, indeed, now, this act of self defence by israel, yosef is creating a humanitarian crisis andits creating a humanitarian crisis and it's causing civilian casualties, civilian deaths of course, that is hamas's strategy, is it not? >> this is exactly what hamas wants. >> and i would say that if civil law is breaking down, it's probably the case that hamas have gone underground. there isn't anyone there to maintain the law . and these poor the law. and these poor civilians who haven't got anything to eat are suffering from a totality darian regime who have taken all the supplies underground and weaponized civilians. >> absolutely. they told after october the 7th, it's rail. did a leaflet drop in north gaza
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saying head south because we're coming. but hamas said ignore that instruction they blocked. i think it tells you everything that you need to know. they blocked roads. blocked the roads. >> prevented people >> they prevented people from leaving. people to be leaving. they need people to be in the way of israeli munitions, of the israeli army because they need a high death toll. so that they can rage, wage war via the media. >> but but that doesn't change the fact, does it, emma, that civilians are dying, that people are going through hell. pressure will grow on israel to have a ceasefire >> the pressure will grow on israel at the very least to ensure that some form of suppues ensure that some form of supplies are getting through to i think a ceasefire is unlikely. not least because, as i said earlier, a ceasefire takes two sides and hamas is just not going to offer one. however much we're calling for a ceasefire. rockets are coming from gaza towards israel every day as well as the other direction . and as the other direction. and there's a wonderful piece by
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jonathan freedland in the guardian, and he says that the problem with this and certainly the way that we sometimes talk about it in the west, this is not a football match. it's not about two sides. you don't pick your colours. this is two just causes clashing . and we again , i causes clashing. and we again, i just come back to making sure for the sake of the palestinian people and for the sake of the israeli people , that we maintain israeli people, that we maintain our humanitarian an that we maintain our humanity and empathy. >> now yourself, i think you're not so sure about what emma said there. >> i believe that the palestinian cause is a just cause. >> it's undoubtedly a real cause and people who are advocating for are right to do so. for it are right to do so. however hamas has committed unspeak absolutely. >> i'm no way want to be seen crossed the line. hamas at all. >> i don't i don't think that you are. but they've crossed a line and even before israel retaliated , there were people on retaliated, there were people on
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the streets . there was the streets. there was anti—semitic graffiti. there were shops that were defaced and i think there's an idea that given what has happened, given the barbarity and the savagery, which , you know, if i was to go which, you know, if i was to go into some of the details of what happened, they'd probably it's horrendous. >> they'd probably cut the feed. >> they'd probably cut the feed. >> there are times in history >> so there are times in history , for example, with with the, with the genocide in rwanda, that things are so bad, things are so unspeakable that we draw are so unspeakable that we draw a line in the sand and we say, what happened here must never happen again. and we're not seeing that from , um, from the seeing that from, um, from the international community. having said that, with regard to aid, i think the palestinians should get aid. but we have the privilege of sitting here in a comfy studio and we don't have rockets coming in. so for us to say ceasefire, i mean, as far as i'm concerned , let's have the i'm concerned, let's have the women and children in red cross camps inside israel. i don't mind that. but also, how can you have a ceasefire without the release of hostages taken by hamas? >> that's a really, really
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impenetrable problem because they're said to be down in those tunnels. now, those tunnels can accommodate 30,000 people. it's not just like a accommodate 30,000 people. it's notjust like a little maze accommodate 30,000 people. it's not just like a little maze out there . they can they can place there. they can they can place so many people in those tunnels. i mean, i think that we should all take a leaf out of the book of sheikh. i had to write a name down. >> i've been practising that all day. >> i've been practising it all day because i thought that what that woman did was so, so remarkable she turned remarkable when she turned around the hand and around and touched the hand and said , shalom to that. said, shalom to that. >> that's the humanity i'm talking about. absolutely >> is it or is it a confused, abused who turned around abused woman who turned around hostages ? no, i don't think so. hostages? no, i don't think so. >> i think that's stockholm. >> i think that's stockholm. >> stockholm syndrome. absolutely >> stockholm syndrome. i think she should not have had cameras put in her face. she should not have had cameras put lether face. she should not have had cameras put let yourself finish. >> let yourself finish. >> let yourself finish. >> shouldn't have had >> she shouldn't have had cameras in face after cameras put in her face after being released. over 80 being released. she's over 80 years old. an years old. she's an octogenarian. and i would i would take that with a pinch of salt. i think is space for salt. i think there is space for humanity, but, emma, you're humanity, but but, emma, you're not having that. >> points. >> two points.
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>> two points. >> first of all, i believe that she'd a peace activist. she'd been a peace activist. >> right. of her life. >> this is who she was. >> this is who she was. >> and her husband have >> and she and her husband have been ferrying palestinians to hospital years . hospital for years. >> the other point, she was captured. >> so i think i'm captive. he is still a hostage. >> yeah, i've because of i have one parent who's a pacifist and one parent who's a pacifist and one who's not. so i've had to make active about what make an active choice about what i believe and a i believe and i am not a pacifist. i do believe there is such a thing as a just war and i do believe that israel in this case defend case has a right to defend itself. but it must do so within international law and with the best possible deal. and i stress possible because i know that possible because i know that possible is not ideal regard for the civilian population of gaza. that hamas are using their international law to stop israel defending herself. >> well, absolutely . >> well, absolutely. >> well, absolutely. >> they've got their head of operations under one of the main hospitals in gaza , and that's hospitals in gaza, and that's been known for a very long time . been known for a very long time. this is what hamas does . but it this is what hamas does. but it also needs to be noted that israel has the unenviable task
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of conducting war in one of the most densely populated areas in the the civilian the world. and the civilian casualties . it's terrible. and casualties. it's terrible. and it's almost it's unavoidable, unavoidable . unavoidable. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> which is why i stress the possible rather than the ideal. >> indeed. yosef, can i ask you, do you feel, though and i know that you're very proud jewish man, but do you feel that israel have case to answer for their have a case to answer for their treatment palestinians over treatment of palestinians over the years? have a jewish the years? i have a jewish friend who's a comedian and a lawyer who gaza as as lawyer who describes gaza as as the biggest concentra camp in the biggest concentra camp in the world. she's, you know, many people have laid at the at the door of israel the accusation that it's that gaza is an apartheid state. and of course, the idea that it's an open air prison. how would you address those allegations? those those concerns about israel's actions over the years? >> well, gaza cannot be apartheid because there aren't there aren't any jews in there to be separated with regard to the conditions in gaza. i think
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that hamas do have something to answer for that . what i will say answer for that. what i will say is that israel is engaged in an existential war and i will not criticise them in that period. but there has been a policy of no policy with regard to settlements in the west bank. i'm a passionate believer in a two state solution, an i'm a believer in autonomy for all nations. that's why i voted for brexit absolutely. brexit and peace, absolutely. >> did speak to a senior >> but i did speak to a senior military person this week, and he described situation in he described the situation in gaza as a for years, for decades, maybe as a pressure cooker . now, that's not to take cooker. now, that's not to take sides or to say that there was apartheid or to say anything else other than right on your doorstep. you have a pressure cooker waiting to explode . cooker waiting to explode. >> the israeli policy was to contain hamas in gaza and if that's not a recipe for a pressure cooker, i don't know what is. every so often they would break out, they would shoot rockets and that the response would to be go in and thatis response would to be go in and that is short term at best. what i'm hoping for now is that through all this unspeakable
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carnage , there will be new carnage, there will be new leadership in gaza who want peace. >> indeed. so let's have a look now at this very sad news. linda, the sun newspaper , linda, the sun newspaper, matthew perry dead at 54. friend to the end. friends was the biggest comedy show of the 90s and he was watched by millions. >> i was always struck by by him. i remember reading years ago a feature where he talked quite openly about his addiction to alcohol and drugs and opioids . and he said the reason why he at that time managed to kick it. of course, he didn't succeed to do that permanently was he couldn't get over the feeling of waking up sober and how fantastic it was and how much energy he had . and he was going energy he had. and he was going to really try to make it to really try hard to make it all of course, in the all work. and of course, in the end, he didn't. is he? he himself estimates he spent £9 million rehabilitation , million on rehabilitation, trying to kick these habits . and trying to kick these habits. and it's incredibly sad because i remember i was talking to the others before we came on air covering george best. i did a
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story, a big story for tonight with trevor mcdonald. he died at the same age, 54, 55. george best mother , same age, 54, 55. best mother, same age, 54, 55. i think when you are addicted to so many toxic substances , so many toxic substances, particularly alcohol, itjust particularly alcohol, it just destroys your body and it happens to the most creative people . people. >> indeed. so. and he'll be a great loss. i mean, a huge talent gone too soon. oh, absolutely. >> i mean, he's only six years older than i am, and it's really hard to emphasise just how important friends was to my generation. right i was hopelessly and completely pointlessly in love with my best friend. and the second year of university and we had a shared house and he was never out of my room because that's where the video of season two of friends was, right? and we watched it just on repeat and i think chandler bing chase changed the way a generation spoke , you way a generation spoke, you know, could i be any more emphatic about that point? no definitely. >> right. he was really wonderful. a great, great loss.
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n ext next well, it is national cat day, so we've been asking for pictures of your little cheeky kitties and they are coming in thick and fast. and they are coming in thick and fast . and and they are coming in thick and fast. and this is michael's gorgeous feline eyes and zilla or zilla, aren't they gorgeous ? or zilla, aren't they gorgeous? look at that. we've got luke's cat, bubba . really cute. looks cat, bubba. really cute. looks like a kitten . marcus's cats like a kitten. marcus's cats bowie , marley and bradley short bowie, marley and bradley short for bradley wiggins. look at that. forming an orderly for bradley wiggins. look at that . forming an orderly queue. that. forming an orderly queue. very british cats. we've got marie's cats, cagney and lacey , marie's cats, cagney and lacey, crime fighting duo david's kitty moose . see? oh, look at that
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moose. see? oh, look at that little , little face. look at little, little face. look at those eyes. and keith, keith's little girl, little lola. isn't she a sparkler ? oh, wow. that's she a sparkler? oh, wow. that's a really that's a proper i don't know. is there an equivalent of crufts for cats? i think she'd win. and alison's lovely boy, floyd in the amazon box. what a delivery . great stuff. look, i delivery. great stuff. look, i loved all your pictures . we've loved all your pictures. we've got a surplus of them. but thank you for sending them. listen, tomorrow's newspaper front pages coming in thick and let's coming in thick and fast. let's have a look at the telegraph now. hamas blocks exit of foreign citizens . and the day foreign citizens. and the day the world lost a friend. matthew perry dies at the age of 54. also johnson boris johnson favoured a soft touch over lockdowns , says top scientists. lockdowns, says top scientists. if only he'd had his way. now for a brand new segment on mark dolan tonight on a sunday, the last word in which a special guest joins me in the studio to give their final verdict on the weekend that we've had. so next
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weekend that we've had. so next week sees the king's speech, the final legislative programme before the next election. it's expected to include laws to bnngin expected to include laws to bring in tougher sentencing for serious crimes, including rape and a new annual system for awarding oil and gas licences . awarding oil and gas licences. in a move which reverses some of the government's zero policy on the government's zero policy on the environment. net zero. and whilst rishi sunak has pushed back on extreme political correctness, saying a man is a man and a woman a woman, is man and a woman is a woman, is there really clear blue there really enough clear blue water between the tories and labour to make a difference in a years labour to make a difference in a year's time if she was still around? what would margaret thatcher be advising rishi sunak to do ? who better to ask than to do? who better to ask than her former aide and adviser? foreign policy and list and contributor to the telegraph newspaper nile gardiner, nile , newspaper nile gardiner, nile, great to have you in the studio. >> it's great to be here. thanks mark. >> the very first the inaugural, the last word on a sunday night now , keir starmer has tony blair now, keir starmer has tony blair and peter mandelson advising him. i think you can see that in
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some of his policy positions. i feel he's shifted to the centre somewhat. rishi sunak sadly, doesn't have mrs. thatcher, but if he did, what would she be telling him? >> a great >> well, that's a great question. think the first question. i think the first thing she would say to thing that she would say to rishi that you need to rishi sunak is that you need to advance conservative policies in order to vote order for conservatives to vote for conservative party. for the conservative party. it's as that. and she used for the conservative party. it's as say that. and she used for the conservative party. it's as say that, that. and she used for the conservative party. it's as say that, of1at. and she used for the conservative party. it's as say that, of course,i she used for the conservative party. it's as say that, of course, ifihe used to say that, of course, if conservatives advance socialist policies, they're not going to remain in power for much longer. so that was always her her message that conservatives have to apply conservative principles. i think she would be calling for tax cuts , for calling for tax cuts, for economic freedom, for a reduction in government spending, a reduction of the size of the state. there's too much government money flowing around , too much public money. around, too much public money. after all, this is taxpayers money. this is the money the british people . and so the british people. and so the conservative government, i think, has to really cut taxes and send money back to the british people. i think that's first thing. i think secondly, theissue first thing. i think secondly, the issue of immigration. a conservative government has to
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be able control illegal be able to control illegal migration into the country. it has to be able to make this a very top priority. it has to deal with it. also. you've got to the level of legal to cut the level of legal migration. i think about 600,000 legal migrants came into the uk last a city the last year. that's a city the size of manchester, basically huge numbers . and the huge numbers. and the conservatives have to really reduce the inflow of migrants legal and illegal, coming into to the united kingdom. i think also as well margaret thatcher would have been appalled by the row by the rise of wokeism in the united kingdom and her message to the prime minister would have been to be to defeat the woke left , not to get all the woke left, not to get all the woke left, not to get all the transgender nonsense out of british schools , schools, british schools, schools, hospitals, prisons , etcetera. hospitals, prisons, etcetera. and she would also be calling on the prime minister to really stand up for british values for traditional values, and to really defeat the poisonous,
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nefarious woke cultural agenda . nefarious woke cultural agenda. highly, highly destructive of and i would add on to those recommendations as well. get rid of this awful net zero stuff. net zero will bankrupt the british economy . it is hugely british economy. it is hugely destructive. it will cost trillions of pounds. britain can't afford it. get rid of net zero is not a conservative policy. >> fascinating. well, do stay with us. now let's bring in my top pundits alongside you . top pundits alongside you. delighted to have linda, emma and joseph with us. listen, folks. keen to hear what you've got to think. joseph is this country still missing margaret thatcher? >> well, the lady was not for turning, but she would have turned the conservative party back to socially conservative values and she would have as as the guest has said, reduced the size of the state and lowered taxes.i size of the state and lowered taxes. i don't think that we need to resurrect the dead to save the conservative party. if we can become a radical
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conservative outlet entity before the next election , i before the next election, i think there's still hope. i would caveat that by saying that i am a signed up member of the conservative party and i've also put myself on the list to be selected and i would say that selected. and i would say that rishi sunak is doing pretty selected. and i would say that rishi job ak is doing pretty selected. and i would say that rishi job considering pretty selected. and i would say that rishi job considering the etty good job considering the circumstance . circumstance. >> hearing rumours >> voices we're hearing rumours of an october poll to give the economy a chance to bounce back . economy a chance to bounce back. do you think it's already done and dusted? linda you no , i and dusted? linda you no, i think there's still stuff left to play for. >> i do think the election will probably be in the autumn of next year, but i think that rishi sunak i think he's a capable intel agent guy. and i think the mistake we sometimes make is in thinking we have to have some kind of great orator, someone with great charisma, someone with great charisma, someone who's always out there in front of the cameras. well we actually need right now is a sensible person running the country who understands what to do in terms of the economy . do in terms of the economy. >> we listen , emma, i think it's >> we listen, emma, i think it's quite clear from keir starmer's
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stance on a number of issues, including wanting to stop self id for trans individuals that labour has shifted to the right and i think it's the hand of tony blair and peter mandelson, but bringing keir starmer into the centre ground and look, i mean on some issues, keir starmer has gone to where the country is and as a radical feminist advocate for sex based rights , i'm very happy that the rights, i'm very happy that the labour party has shifted position on that particular issue. >> i think in terms of where keir starmer is, i don't think he's influenced much by margaret thatcher, which i as a labour party member i would say is a good thing. but i do think that there is , is i mean if we're there is, is i mean if we're still talking about a person who left office when i was 15, as the last great conservative, i've yeah, i think we're talking about a party who's really run out of ideas. >> well, listen, >> okay. well, listen, nigel,
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last to you. your reaction last word to you. your reaction to what we've seen on the streets in london this weekend, anti—semitic hate. what does it mean for the future of this country ? country? >> well, in my view, with regard to the what we're seeing on the streets, it's absolutely appalling. we are seeing outright anti—semitism , hatred, outright anti—semitism, hatred, violence , a menacing atmosphere violence, a menacing atmosphere on the streets of london. a lot of these pro—palestine supporters are actually supporting hamas . supporting hamas. >> well, there you go. he said it. it was the last word. i'm back tomorrow at 9:00. thanks for your company. >> good evening. my name's rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. so there's been a fair amount of unsettled weather around this weekend, and that's due to this large area of low pressure to the west of the uk. this low pressure out in the north sea has brought plenty of rain to scotland and north eastern of england eastern parts of england throughout this will throughout sunday. and this will start clear away to the east
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start to clear away to the east as we go through evening, as we go through this evening, bringing patchy rain, bringing some patchy rain, though time . elsewhere, though for a time. elsewhere, showers continue , showers will continue, especially along southern and western coasts, but there will be some clear spells, too. and under these we could see the odd patch of mist and fog and maybe a touch of frost across the far northwest of scotland. showers will continue through monday morning , though, especially morning, though, especially across wales and south east england, where they could be heavy and maybe even with the odd rumble thunder for odd rumble of thunder for a time, decent sunny spells time, some decent sunny spells though, especially across scotland and central and eastern parts of england where we'll see temperatures to 14 to 16. temperatures rising to 14 to 16. now, as we go into the start of tuesday, we'll see a band of showers and rain that will move into northern ireland overnight and slowly making its way eastwards . some drier eastwards. some drier conditions, though , to the conditions, though, to the northeast of this bit of respite in the southwest as well from those before next those showers before this next system moves in overnight, tuesday and into wednesday. and that's unsettled theme really continues throughout the rest of the week with storm care and
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>> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong. headlines now from the gb news room. israel claims to have killed dozens of militants in direct clashes with hamas in northern gaza . the hamas in northern gaza. the israeli military says the hamas fighters were killed leaving a tunnel near the erez crossing, which had linked gaza to israel before the conflict broke out. the idf says it's been massively bombarding gaza from the air to ensure the safety of ground forces and, in their words, eliminate terrorist infrastructure. the gaza health ministry says more than 8000 palestinians have now been killed . its spokesperson, daniel killed. its spokesperson, daniel hagan killed. its spokesperson, daniel hagari , once again urged hagari, once again urged residents to move south for their own safety. >> him over the last two weeks, we have been calling on residents of the northern gaza strip and gaza city to relocate
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