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get you up to date with let's get you up to date with the headlines. the israeli prime minister says there will be no ceasefire in gaza and that this is a time for war. benjamin netanyahu promised to stand against the forces of barbarism until victory is achieved. describe hamas as part of an axis of evil being formed by iran, he added. even the most just wars have unintended civilian casualties. more than 8000 palestinians have been killed by israeli bombing, to according the gaza health ministry. mr netanyahu has described october the 7th as a turning point. >> israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with hamas after the horrific attacks of october seventh. calls for a ceasefire are calls for israel to surrender to hamas, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to barbarism . that surrender to barbarism. that will not happen . in will not happen. in >> meanwhile, the israeli government government's also confirmed 14 british nationals were amongst those killed during
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the hamas attacks on the 7th of october. two others are still missing and they may still be hostages in gaza . meanwhile, hostages in gaza. meanwhile, israel defence forces say a female soldier is being rescued. private ori megadisc was freed dunng private ori megadisc was freed during a ground operation in gaza and has been reunited with her family. hamas has also posted a video of three hostages being held asking for a palestinian prisoner swap. their relatives say the proof of life has given them hope. here the home secretary has described pro—palestinian protests across the uk as hate marches . earlier the uk as hate marches. earlier today, the government and the police held an emergency cobra meeting to discuss the threat of terrorism linked to the israel hamas conflict. the meeting follows a rise in anti—semitic and islamophobic incidents across the country since october the 7th . conservative mp paul the 7th. conservative mp paul bristow has been told to leave his government job as a parliamentary private secretary
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at the department for science. after urging rishi sunak to back a permanent ceasefire in gaza, he is the first frontbench mp on either side of the house to be dismissed over calling for an end to hostilities. downing street says his comments aren't consistent with the principles of collective responsibility . of collective responsibility. the police officer charged with murder following the fatal shooting of chris kaba will be named publicly. the officer's named publicly. the officer's name and date of birth will be made public on the 30th of january. a home address or any images of them cannot be published . mr kaba died when he published. mr kaba died when he was shot through the windscreen of a car in south—east london last year. and just stop. oil activists who climbed a motonnay gantry on the m25 have avoided jail. two protesters were handed suspended sentences after a high court judge found all users of the demonstration did not make them aware of the injunction in and no penalties were imposed against ten other activists . the against ten other activists. the ruling comes after 62 just stop oil protesters were arrested at
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a demonstration in london with ipsis gb news live across the uk. that's it for the moment. now it's back to . nigel now it's back to. nigel >> good evening . well, last >> good evening. well, last saturday, once again saw huge demonstrations taking place in london. once again, the palestinian flag was there for all to see. i've commented before that this is the politics of other countries now writ large on our streets. but i have to say, what did really surprise me in many ways and made me ask a question, but the way that sign queer jews for a free palestine, i mean, i wonder whether gay rights protesters understand actually what goes on in gaza. and many of those countries around there, it seems rather like turkey's praying for christmas . talking of prayer, christmas. talking of prayer, this this is what we saw on
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saturday evening in whitehall outside side number 10 downing street. and next to our cenotaph , our national monument to those that died in two world wars. and since i never thought i'd see these scenes in my country , i, these scenes in my country, i, i love love. well, that is the islamic call for prayer taking place outside two of our biggest and most important national symbols. and this is all because , as our political class decided and if we go back to the 1997 general election . yep, it was general election. yep, it was tony blair, alastair campbell and peter mandelson who decided that they would rub the noses of the right in diversity mass immigration, diversity for the sake of it, and actually peter mandelson was the newspapers over the course of the weekend he's going to be doing a big new
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podcast for the times newspaper. how to win an election. well, maybe . peter mandelson, what we maybe. peter mandelson, what we should be asking you is how to ruin a country , because the ruin a country, because the whole point and those of us that were sceptical about immigration on this scale is if you have that large a number of people that large a number of people that come actually, it becomes impossible to integrate into society something. but the way that we had done better, i think than all the other european countries until blair came to power . now one person in power. now one person in government who did speak out and she does this on quite a regular basis is our home secretary suella braverman, who talking about those marches, those signs , as much of what was being chanted on saturday as on previous saturdays has said to my mind that there is only one way to describe those marches. they are hate marches . and what they are hate marches. and what she means by that or what she means by that is that basically there are people there who are celebrating what happened in israel, those awful events on
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the 7th of october. this has got to a point with jeremy corbyn being quite rightly, i think, kicked out of the labour party. what i wondered, i've been speculating for the last couple of weeks whether we would see an islamic party and indeed an application went in to the electoral commission for the party of islam. it has been turned down by the electoral commission on the grounds that they haven't laid down the right form of governance. but i wouldn't rule it out . form of governance. but i wouldn't rule it out. i form of governance. but i wouldn't rule it out . i wouldn't wouldn't rule it out. i wouldn't rule out a party like this existing at the next general election. and certainly we are the one aftennards. and the impact of this is now being felt even on the conservative party where paul bristow , in a very, where paul bristow, in a very, very junior position, mp , very junior position, mp, conservative for peterborough, has told the sun newspaper that he is standing down as a pps. he says it was absolutely the right decision for the pm to fire me. i obviously regret being sacked, but i have many thousands of my
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constituents who feel very strongly about this issue and i feel i can better represent their views from the backbenches than government payroll . and than the government payroll. and of what he means is that of course what he means is that the peterborough has the centre of peterborough has within it about 15% of the total constituency are people of islamic faith and there are many mosques in the centre of that town. so even in in peterborough we see the effects of what i think is non integration impacting on our politics. and then we saw the most astonishing events in dagestan in russia at the weekend , an aeroplane coming the weekend, an aeroplane coming in from tel aviv and people storming the airport basically looking to try and get their hands on jewish people and lynch them . so it isn't just on the them. so it isn't just on the streets of london that we see things that we find disturbing. it's happening everywhere . it's it's happening everywhere. it's happening in paris, it's happening in paris, it's happening in paris, it's happening in brussels. it's happening in brussels. it's happening in brussels. it's happening in berlin , where the happening in berlin, where the slogan of 1945 of never again
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seems to have been totally and utterly forgotten. and i just wonder and maybe it is a very strong thought, but i just wonder, are we heading towards some form of religious war? give me your thoughts, farage at gbnews.com now. charlie peters gbnews.com now. charlie peters gb news is investigates reporter has some i think disturbing news of what some extremists have been preaching in mosques over the last few days . the last few days. >> well, since i got back from tel aviv last week, nigel, i've been looking at what's been going on in this country, how the war has been occurring in britain. we've seen, as you said, much of this from those marches in central london. but there have been several very controversial being there have been several very contro by'sial being there have been several very contro by imams being there have been several very contro by imams acrossming there have been several very contro by imams across britain, given by imams across britain, not just in london. given by imams across britain, notjust in london. this is going on throughout the country. on night, played a few on friday night, we played a few clips that investigation. clips of that investigation. it's stretching well past 20 mosques now across the country where we believe extremely controversial charged controversial and charged language is being used. and tonight, we have four more clips
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that can with your that we can share with your audience okay audience now. okay >> hamas part of the hukam of >> hamas is part of the hukam of palestine . don't criticise him. palestine. don't criticise him. don't blame him. if you can't help the situation, shut up . help the situation, shut up. just be quiet. >> we only do these events and the halqas and talks and speeches, which is something good and this is high of course. and we have to do this . but the and we have to do this. but the point is we only do this when our enemy , when the criminal our enemy, when the criminal jews , they escalate the jews, they escalate the aggression against our muslim brothers and sisters in palestine . palestine. >> i heard the messenger of allah. sallallahu alaihi wa sallam say that the jews will fight you and you will prevail over them. then a rock will say 0 muslim . here is a jew behind 0 muslim. here is a jew behind me . me. >> kill him 0 brothers 0 soldiers of the armies of the muslim world, it is your duty to
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defend the holy land. it is a duty upon the muslim leaders to fulfil the command of jihad . fulfil the command of jihad. they must carry out military action. the armies of the muslim countries . you must take on this countries. you must take on this military task and defend the holy land . holy land. >> i can't imagine, charlie peters, if a church of england vicar said anything approaching this that he would not he or she would not be arrested within 24 hours. >> well, we've sent all the information we've collated to the police and the counter—terrorism police and also forces in also the police forces in these local where we've local areas where we've heard these swansea, these comments in swansea, criminal , the term being criminal jews, the term being used, they that they're used, they said that they're investigating. a visiting investigating. it was a visiting imam leeds . we heard there imam in leeds. we heard there don't hamas. they also don't criticise hamas. they also said coverage of the said that the coverage of the atrocities on october the 7th were lies in nottingham. quoting atrocities on october the 7th were linprophecyingham. quoting atrocities on october the 7th were linprophecy aboutn. quoting atrocities on october the 7th were linprophecy about killing ing from a prophecy about killing jews, they said it's just quoting scripture. but we've heard experts who say that heard from experts who say that that's deliberately inflamed tree. also finally in tree. and then also finally in bradford calling muslim bradford calling on muslim armies invade israel. this armies to invade israel. this reflects the mood in the street
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protests in beirut, in baghdad , protests in beirut, in baghdad, but now appears also in but now it appears also in bradford . b ra dfo rd. >> dr. bradford. >> dr. sheikh ramzi >> it does. dr. sheikh ramzi from oxford islamic from the oxford islamic information centre a friend information centre is a friend of program and a genuine, of this program and a genuine, peace loving man. i have no doubt about that at all. and i've always enjoyed our conversation. god bless. thank you. what just seen you. but what we've just seen there , dr. ramzi . yes. is there, dr. ramzi. yes. is disturbing in the extreme. >> it is. it is. i'm shocked. i'm very shocked. and i can't them all of them condemn all of them. it should not it should not say like that. what we need to do at this situation , what we to do at this situation, what we need to do, of course, we see to brother, to cousins in the palestine and israel are cousins of the muslim and the jews are cousins to cousin which become hatred toward the in a holy book says if two families are defined to good people got itjust says if two families are defined to good people got it just get involved and bring bring bring a peace between them . this is what peace between them. this is what they say this is what we should try . this is what we should do.
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try. this is what we should do. and again , i said again, i and again, i said again, i condemn these people. they should not say this. they should not say the jihad. they should not say the jihad. they should not provoke the other young people or other to go and damage themselves , damage the family. themselves, damage the family. they don't know what is happening when they prevent get you or whatever gets in you, the family is in trouble. that be in trouble much. and after family is in trouble. that be in trouii e much. and after family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, much. and after family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, ohnuch. and after family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, oh god, and after family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, oh god, oh d after family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, oh god, oh god, er family is in trouble. that be in trouii say, oh god, oh god, they that i say, oh god, oh god, they should do these ones. should not do these ones. perhaps the police, as our honourable says, says the honourable friend says, says the police should get involved . police should get involved. involved to see what mean, what they mean. why the mosque since seen such such that things at all it should not be in the mosque at all. if i'm very surprised is coming in the mosque. however, what i would like to say the ordinary jews as lovable people i to today this morning . i don't know if morning. i don't know if i should say or not. i was in the nicky campbell campbell bbc and we were talking after that so one of the jews from the london of course phoned me said sheikh
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do you remember we hugged each other. do you remember we hugging, where is he going? i said, i'm brother for god. no i know you. >> i know you are. but how? what is going wrong? wrong? why are we can't put a percentage figure on this of the mosques in the country with this sort of things being said? we hope it's low, but we hope so. but we don't actually fully know what can be done within the religion to deal with these people. >> i would think. i would think if the says something like if the imam says something like that in the congregation in the friday should goes he friday prayer, he should goes he should goes, it should not, especially in the friday prayer. we pray to all we bring the name of god, not you. kill the jews, kill the why you kill the little jews for what is a friend is a brother. why you want to do that? why you want to provoke the people they are friends. they are brothers. they are sisters. they are lovely people. they are so kind and so many of them merciful. i them. i them so merciful. i know them. i know them from united know them from the united nations. from the nations. i know them from the networks. know them from from
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networks. i know them from from the jerusalem. i know them from from uk. i know the rabbi from the uk. i know the rabbi mirvis mirvis a very close i always said rabbi mirvis. i'm saying it here as well. a so kind and wise as he's he's in my facebook so and we met together . facebook so and we met together. >> can you imagine can you imagine , dr. ramsey, you know, imagine, dr. ramsey, you know, if you were living in parts of north london where there's a big jewish community, these people are scared to walk down the street . street. >> yes, would love to give him >> yes, i would love to give him a hug and say , shalom, shalom. a hug and say, shalom, shalom. listen, shalom . shalom, aleykum . listen, shalom. shalom, aleykum. shalom alaikum. salaam alaikum. salaam shalom. and take it easy, you ipsis. just keep yourself and it passes . i don't think in and it passes. i don't think in oxford . vishayam all coming from oxford. vishayam all coming from saturday, says salam shalom , saturday, says salam shalom, sir. and say salam shalom. shalom. shalom because our children. the children coming and going. but they are safe. however we do not want to make them worried. we love them. we do not. but we need to do. of
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course, we need to bring a peace and a ceasefire . and the and a ceasefire. and the brotherhood in the in the palestine and israel, because all is said to the many big the israel love to have a to love have. >> well well the ceasefire itself, of course, ceasefire is becoming very contentious because israel has the right to defend itself. and it's a question in gaza of where that goes. and i understand the difficulties of all of that. clearly, we also need is clearly, what we also need is better integration the better integration of the communities. ever, yes , communities. but as ever, yes, your voice very important. your voice is very important. and i'll tell you why it's important because it's possibly too easy in a situation like this where we see the scenes that have happened in london where we listen to the report that charlie peters has given us, if we're in our own minds, think the entirety of the muslim population in this country, we actually support this stuff. we're wrong. they don't. and that's why sheikh ramzy being here is important for us to understand that very, very important. however, far too many
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do. charlie peters, final word from you. are the police going to act? >> well, they surely must. we know that greater manchester police are looking into an incident. we sent them and we're waiting for further responses from charities from others. the charities commission confirmed that commission has confirmed that they are assessing the information we've provided to them, in the them, and it comes in the backdrop that michael gove, the community secretary, is considering definition of considering a new definition of extremism and also a change to the terrorism law , which has the terrorism law, which has not been updated since 2011. and witnessing and the witnessing the scenes and the commentary that we've seen over the last few weeks, they might well act soon. >> i can say to that is they >> all i can say to that is they need act very, very soon need to act very, very soon indeed. minute after the indeed. in a minute after the break, we go live to tel aviv . break, we go live to tel aviv. well, thank you.
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radio. >> well, it's very difficult to find any good news about what is going on in israel and gaza at this moment in time. but gb news is security editor mark white.
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is there in tel aviv. and mark, is there in tel aviv. and mark, i understand one little piece of good news before we start on the bigger picture is that one of the hostages has been rescued . the hostages has been rescued. >> yeah, you're right, nigel, this is corporal ori megadisc who was abducted by hamas terrorists . on october the 7th terrorists. on october the 7th when those attacks took place. he was taken into gaza and has been held ever since. but an overnight operation by the israeli defence forces managed to rescue her. she's been medically assessed and is in good condition , even to the good condition, even to the point where she's been able to meet with members of her family. so clearly , we delight across so clearly, we delight across israel at that rare bit of good news, the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , who in his benjamin netanyahu, who in his news conference this evening thanked those members of the idf who launched this rescue operation and it gives him hope.
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and he says it should give the families of those hostages being held some hope that there is chance , there is a chance that chance, there is a chance that the idf can secure the release of hostages as going fonnard, because there's been real concern among the families of the hostages in israel that actually the decision to launch this ground war, and that is what we're seeing, not on the scale that we thought were tens of thousands of troops going over the border into gaza with all of those tanks. it's on a bit of a smaller scale, but it's a ground war nonetheless. there in gaza. and they're pushing fonnard and incrementally taking one bit at a time. fonnard and incrementally taking one bit at a time . but, you one bit at a time. but, you know, there was concern amongst these families that the start of this ground war could put their loved ones at risk. they wanted quite a few of the hostage families understood to give more time to do the negotiations. but
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that decision actually to launch the ground war was taken by the war cabinet after they heard back from diplomats, diplomats, nigel, who had assessed that the talks between qatar and hamas terrorists had stalled , that terrorists had stalled, that hamas was just playing for time to string this out as long as possible. and that's why they took that decision. it's a big risk . yeah, but at least the risk. yeah, but at least the rescue of one hostage shows it can be done. >> well, it shows something can be done, mark. but my fear that i expressed to you on thursday was that as the death toll in gaza mounts and begins in numerical terms to become several times bigger than the numbers of people that died in israel on october the 7th, you know , i sense in the know, i sense in the international community a slight softening of outright support for israel . and i just wonder , for israel. and i just wonder, do you think this is perhaps why it's not the all out assault that we'd expected ?
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that we'd expected? >> i think that's maybe part of the reason also just how complex the reason also just how complex the way in which hamas is embedded into gaza. right throughout the strip with hundreds of miles of tunnel systems that they still even today continue to fire their rockets at regular intervals from them. they still have that capability that has not been degraded really to any significant degree, it seems, by the israeli military. so that may may also be behind the reason why it's more of an incremental approach . but i incremental approach. but i think you're right, nigel, in terms of the images coming out of gaza , i think israel is alive of gaza, i think israel is alive to that as well, which is why they at every opportunity try to remember or try to get people to remember or try to get people to remember the terrorist attacks on the 7th of october. but we are seeing it already in country his around the world and even in
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the uk. in the us , there is the uk. in the us, there is a softening of the position . they softening of the position. they were not for any kind of ceasefire for quite a few days. now they're talking about it. humanitarian pauses and some, including some mps, are saying that they actually want a ceasefire. no they are, absolutely. >> mark white, great reporting from tel aviv, as ever. thank you. i must say, i am struck whatever airstrikes the israelis carry out in gaza, ultimately they're going to have to fight in those tunnels. war underground, very, very difficult indeed . now, the covid difficult indeed. now, the covid inquiry goes on week after week after week. and doesn't, in my view, make as much news as it ought to, given they repeatedly locked us down and caused the country absolutely huge damage. but was the name boris johnson? the prime minister begins to appear more regularly in these heanngs appear more regularly in these hearings and has some really big witnesses take the stand and the
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whole thing is beginning to change. lisa hartle is gb news london reporter has been there today and it's been the turn today and it's been the turn today of martin reynolds, the former principal private secretary of boris johnson. he's been testifying today. and just to remind those that have forgotten , he was known as party forgotten, he was known as party marty , wasn't he? lisa marty, wasn't he? lisa >> yes, he was so he was the one who sent an email out to downing street staff, inviting them to a garden party, bring their own booze type of party that was dunng booze type of party that was during lockdown in 2020. today he was asked about that to comment on that, and he said that he apologises unreservedly for any hurt and distress that may have caused on his part in it. and when asked whether he thinks that that had an impact on public trust in the government, said but government, he said yes, but less than would have done less so than it would have done if news when it if the news broke when it happened, it actually broke 15 months he was also asked
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months later. he was also asked why he changed a whatsapp group that that was keeping that he was in that was keeping the prime minister at the time, that he was in that was keeping the pijohnson, ster at the time, that he was in that was keeping the pijohnson, updated1e time, boris johnson, updated on the pandemic to a disappearing message function. he said he couldn't remember why, but he couldn't remember why, but he could speculate said that could speculate and he said that perhaps because he was perhaps it was because he was worried that messages would be leaked press. now, other leaked to the press. now, other messages were discussed messages that were discussed today between dominic today were between dominic cummings, cabinet secretary, cummings, the cabinet secretary, simon case and former communications director lee cain. they were shown to the inquiry in these simon case accused boris johnson when he was prime minister of constantly changing his mind on decisions and said that he cannot lead and we cannot support him. government isn't actually that hard, but this guy is making it impossible . the documents also impossible. the documents also showed former chief scientist patrick vallance that he said senior officials had tried to strong arm, strong arm him and chris whitty into giving a press conference around the time that dominic cummings was found to have driven his car to barnard castle. and he said, commenting on that , in these documents that
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on that, in these documents that were shown to the inquiry today, he said that this was he clearly broken the rules and the press conference that dominic cummings gave after that news came out was a rambling car crash. and in his diary entry, he also called bofis his diary entry, he also called boris johnson weak and indecisive . now, there was also indecisive. now, there was also a handwritten diary note that was shown to the inquiry today when another private secretary gave evidence to the inquiry . gave evidence to the inquiry. imran shafi, this was from a meeting between boris johnson and rishi sunak in march 2020. it said that this is what he had written, made a note of where killing the patient to tackle the tumour, large people. that's taken to mean large numbers of people who will die . why are we people who will die. why are we destroying the economy for people who will die soon anyway ? people who will die soon anyway? okay. and when asked about this, he said couldn't remember he said he couldn't remember definitely said that. but he definitely who said that. but he said thinks it was boris said he thinks it was boris johnson. on all of this, johnson. now on all of this, bofis johnson. now on all of this, boris johnson's spokesman has said that boris johnson is cooperating fully and will also
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give evidence to the inquiry . give evidence to the inquiry. now, today, we were also supposed to hear from lee kane, who was the former director of communications, but due to timings running over with martin reynolds, we're due to hear from him tomorrow, along with dominic cummings. >> wow. that will be a big news event. lisa, thank you very much indeed for that comprehensive report of what happened today. now, i know some of you at home will be saying so blooming what? we couldn't care less if boris johnson ate a piece of cake with a crowd of people, whether the gangin a crowd of people, whether the gang in number 10 who were all working closely together, had a dnnks working closely together, had a drinks party. it's all irrelevant. after all. didn't keir starmer have a beer and a curry up in the north—east of england? but i'll tell you what really matters and what really matters from this inquiry is how our government operated and functioned at a time of national crisis. a time when we've added 400 billion to our national debt at a time when we've led our
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national health service waiting list go up. it's now about 7.6 million doses. actions that were taken that ruined small businesses is and delays us to screening and health care that mean many more people are going to die as a result of lockdowns than would ever have died of covid. that at least is my opinion. and if it is true, if at the very centre of the decision making of all of this , decision making of all of this, we had a prime minister and a close team who didn't know their own minds, whose opinions blew around in the breeze. according to what short term opinion polls said. then there are bigger lessons we must learn about how our country should be governed and perhaps governed rather better in a moment. i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. will i do it or won't i? all of that in a couple of
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>> well, several times since 2016, i've had i'm a celebrity get me out of here from itv saying to me, come into the jungle and they've always offered me really quite substantial sums of money to do so. and i've always thought, no, it's probably not the right thing me to do . and they've thing for me to do. and they've been back on the phone this year and you might have seen the sun put on the page , mocked put me on the front page, mocked up if i was there already . up as if i was there already. and the are almost certain and the mail are almost certain that going to go. unlike that i'm going to go. unlike previous years, i am giving it very, very serious consideration. why? well i'll tell you what. you've got about 10 million young people who watch that programme . um, these watch that programme. um, these are people who don't really watch the news or read newspapers, but they still care about the country they live in and about their futures. and actually, in many ways , the actually, in many ways, the futures of young people in britain blighted. they britain have been blighted. they haven't got the same opportunities that their parents and grandparents had and they'd
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love to look for solutions . so love to look for solutions. so in mind, if i was to do it, in my mind, if i was to do it, i might be able to connect with that audience because goodness me, they all watch i'm a celebrity, get me out of here. there are downsides to doing it as well . i haven't absolutely as well. i haven't absolutely fully made my mind up. i'm running a poll as we speak on tiktok asking people , do you tiktok asking people, do you think i should do it? do you think i should do it? do you think i should not do it? but i am in talks contractually. and those talks have been going on for 2 or 3 days. there will be an absolute definitive answer within the next 48 hours. there we go . now, rupert read was we go. now, rupert read was a co—founder of extinction rebellion and the climate majority project. an extinction has now been around for five years, but i, i don't know . years, but i, i don't know. whilst i'm deeply into eloquent of much of their behaviour and we see today that those that
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climbed up onto the bridges and effectively blocked the traffic on the m25 are walking away scot free. i don't believe that to be right, but i sense something is happening. you know, when you ask people are they worried about the climate, about the world, about the potential damage of climate change, they say yes. when you ask people should we do it here in this country through the net zero policies and you pay for it, you start to get a very different answer. and politically, we're beginning to see slowly but surely a shift. five finally, in the conservative policy sea rupert , i wonder what you make rupert, i wonder what you make of what i just said in a sense that everyone's worried about the world they live in and what could happen to it. but when it comes as to the implementation of net zero, there is a slight sense of realism that's the way i'd put it creeping in. i mean, do you see that actually the tide is turning a little bit
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about what we should do , you about what we should do, you know, with this debate ? well i'd know, with this debate? well i'd make a couple of points here, nigel. >> the first one is that the climate majority project, which i now run , having left i now run, having left extinction rebellion three years ago, the climate majority project, we're trying to be much more broad based than the movements such as extinction rebellion and other parts of the radical flank. rebellion and other parts of the radical flank . we're trying to radical flank. we're trying to attract large amounts of support from across the spectrum. so, for example , we have major tory for example, we have major tory grandees who are backing us, people like lord devon, formerly john selwyn gummer, an and lord randall, who is theresa may's environment adviser. what i'm getting here is there are getting at here is there are people in all parties, including very the conservative very much in the conservative party, who are desperately concerned about the situation that we face and who are not moving away at all from commitment to achieve being net zero and playing our part in that. and that's the second point i'd like to make, which is that i think it is essential
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that i think it is essential that britain plays its part in this process. sometimes people say, oh yes, but what about china ? what about india? and china? what about india? and yeah, course there are issues yeah, of course there are issues there. but the bottom line is this we need to lead. we ought to show leadership . and i think to show leadership. and i think that anyone who is patriotic will understand that where britain leads others, others often follow, and where britain pulls out of something, well, that's bad news for the world. the world wants to see british leadership on this. they've been pleased to see british leadership on this to this leadership on this up to this point. the government's own point. but the government's own climate committee have climate change committee have now no longer now said britain is no longer leading the world this, and leading the world on this, and that's situation that we and the climate majority . climate majority. >> rupert, i mean, look, look, you know, we can lead, but it doesn't that china, india doesn't mean that china, india or indonesia or any of these countries will follow. and after all, they're to going burn 8 billion tonnes of coal this yean billion tonnes of coal this year. but there's another big point. i want to discuss with you. and look, you and i disagree, but it's gb news. and we want to have a proper debate about this is what the ulez
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camera extensions in place camera extensions put in place by sadiq khan have exposed . this by sadiq khan have exposed. this is something that's been going on with electricity bills for example, for years. and it's this is what we're doing in the name of net zero is actually taxing the poor disproportion , taxing the poor disproportion, honestly and in some cases , not honestly and in some cases, not just exempting the rich, but making them richer. do you understand why there's such pubuc understand why there's such public fury over that ? public fury over that? >> well, let me ask you this, nigel. would you agree with me that actually, yes, the rich should pay more? so, for example, the rich should pay a lot more for flying and the rich should pay higher rates of tax to cover the green changes that we all now want to make. the changes on climate and on nature would you agree with me on that? >> well , don't you i would you agree with me on that? >> well, don't you i think >> well, don't you see? i think we're getting to absolute we're getting to the absolute truth green truth of what the green movement's about. it's actually more about left wing politics. it's more about big state. it's more about high tax. it's more about control of the individuals
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life and really the environment is being used as a tool to achieve that . achieve that. >> no, that's not right at all. so firstly, you've got to choose , right? you say poor people need to pay or you say rich people need to pay. if there's something to pay someone's got to pay it, right? and there is stuff that has to be put in as an investment which will be hugely rewarding to hugely rewarding in years to come. this partly about come. this is partly about economics, nigel. you must know this, britain is lagging this, that britain is lagging relative to many other countries now on the energies and industries of the future, such as obviously renewable energy. now that's a serious mistake . now that's a serious mistake. also on house insulation if we invest. >> but rupert, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang right now. >> now, let me let me just hang on. >> on. >> on wind heating the sky. >> on wind heating the sky. >> we're heating the sky. a third of houses in britain have no loft insulation. that's just crazy. everyone can see that . crazy. everyone can see that. everybody wants cheaper energy bills . bills. >> that's right. and having better insulated houses helps considerably . that's right. but
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considerably. that's right. but it's the cost of energy that worries me and you see, the wind energy firms are now saying they want government to pay them 70% more for their electricity . the more for their electricity. the point i'm making is that is that what we're doing in the name of renewable energy is we're producing intermittent , very producing intermittent, very expensive energy and that disprot fortunately, affects the poorest in society. that's the really big point i'm trying to make . make. >> look, what we need to do is ensure that the poorest have well insulated homes. so we need a free programme to be rolled out to all poor households to insulate those. now, now somebody has to pay for that, but it's going to be massively beneficial for poor people that many people this winter . right. many people this winter. right. are struggling to pay their bills. they wouldn't be if bills. but they wouldn't be if their houses better their houses were better insulated. a no insulated. it really is a no brainer. so i think that we can all see that there are easy win wins here and what that's what we in the climate majority project want to do here. we want
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to see let's depolarise this debate right. let's take it into an area of common sense. let's see what things that see what other things are that we agree on. rupert we can all agree on. rupert that's one. >> if we can find areas that we agree on, should do so. but agree on, we should do so. but we'll go for on the moment disagreeing in a civil manner. and i thank you again for joining us on the program . thank joining us on the program. thank you. a moment, i'm going to you. in a moment, i'm going to talk to an american friend of mine, dennis prager. he has managed to set up something called prager u. it's like a university for young people to learn some truths about the world and to hear some conservative viewpoints . but is conservative viewpoints. but is it just propaganda ? i'll ask it just propaganda? i'll ask dennis that in just a
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what he's done many things over his career. talk radio, you name it. but dennis prager made a decision. we can't go on having our kids indoctrinate , voted by our kids indoctrinate, voted by left wing progressives at school and university. and he decided
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to do something about it. and in 2009, he set up prager u. prager . university that is what i mean. why did you think you could set something up that would reach a large number of young american people? well, the truth is, i wasn't sure , to be honest. >> i live in a state of self pinching when if you would walk with me through an airport and see the number of young people who come over. yeah, it it's very gratifying . i did not know very gratifying. i did not know what would happen, but i knew , what would happen, but i knew, too that i and others have very important things to say that they never hear. that's the key. they never hear this is they there is so much that we deliver to, for example, just his his a simple example for those that don't know what. okay. so prager university is a non—profit as we term we use in america we raise
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money. so everything is free. you don't have to pay for anything. and we have well over anything. and we have well over a billion views a year. and according to google, 65% are under the age of 35. so i'll just give a small example . the just give a small example. the ignorance among young people and i'm sure it's true here in britain, i am sure of it, but i know of it in america, of the amount of evil in the 20th century. and this should have no political this should not be a right or left issue. 100 million people were killed, non—com combatants in the 20th century. they don't know that. they the ovennhelming majority of young americans never heard of the gulag archipelago. 45% of young americans never heard of auschwitz. i mean , this this is auschwitz. i mean, this this is this is not a conservative poll. this was pew research, if i'm not mistaken . yeah. which is, not mistaken. yeah. which is, you know, not conservative or
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liberal. >> no, we quote them regularly. i mean, there are good. yes exactly. >> so we bring this to their attention and the left hates us for this. so you do it through these sort of 4 or 5 minute inform ative. >> and informative. >> and i've done some work with you in the past on this. that's right. about brexit of what it meant. you know, you do these informative videos five informative videos all five minutes. and people minutes. yeah, yeah. and people watch them . but the problem is, watch them. but the problem is, dennis as you know, you know, when you're arguing, you know, small c conservative views, when you're arguing pro christian views , you're very reliant , views, you're very reliant, aren't you, on youtube owned by google, you're very reliant on facebook or meta as it is. and i mean, you've fought some legal battles. >> yes. so they they have on occasion put us on restricted lists, meaning that if you ban or violence for your children, you can't see one of our videos. so you probably don't know this this is worth my whole visit to , this is worth my whole visit to, uh, to, to britain to share this with you. so i, i testified at
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the us senate a number of years ago on this very issue of google censoring us, google owns youtube. yeah. so google sent a representative from san francisco and i came in from los angeles to washington, dc. senator ted cruz. god bless him. organise this . and he looked at organise this. and he looked at the man from um, youtube and said, i'm just curious, why did you put mr prager's video on the ten commandments on the restricted list? ten the ten commandments, and with a straight face, the man said , straight face, the man said, because it mentions murder . because it mentions murder. >> oh, dear. yes >> oh, dear. yes >> yes. so i actually announced people can watch this . it is on people can watch this. it is on youtube. my testimony in the us senate . i said, well, in light senate. i said, well, in light of that , we will reissue it as of that, we will reissue it as the nine commandments. >> is there . i mean, look, i've >> is there. i mean, look, i've had problems , as you know, i've had problems, as you know, i've had problems, as you know, i've had i've had some problems on facebook in particular matter
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i've had terrible problems with. and realising that, you know, stuff is being shadowed , banned stuff is being shadowed, banned and the same goes for you. putting your adverts out doesn't it as well. >> yes, exactly . that's why what >> yes, exactly. that's why what we are doing is encouraging people. for example, i have what's called fireside chat . what's called the fireside chat. 310 have been done every single week. i didn't miss one during covid from my home to people all over the world. and we encourage people to watch it straight. now at prager u. because we don't know what youtube will do or so you try to bypass the social media. >> that's correct, yes. and that's by having an app. >> that's right. we do. there's a prager u app. that's right. i think that's. but it's a tragedy. so this is the key thing, though. this is really, if i may say , of my own idea, if i may say, of my own idea, important young people send in questions at my fireside chat from all over the world. and one young person said , dennis, how young person said, dennis, how do we know who's telling the
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truth ? a very, very good truth? a very, very good question . and put under the question. and put under the pressure of having to answer it at that moment, i actually developed an answer that everyone should hear . those who everyone should hear. those who censor are liars . that's the censor are liars. that's the answer . yeah. answer. yeah. >> no, i like that. no, no, no. i like that very, very much indeed.is i like that very, very much indeed. is there some hope, dennis, that with elon musk buying twitter , they call it buying twitter, they call it x now, but i still call it twitter and talking about free speech. is there some hope that that platform might offer a better future? oh, yes. with views like yours for everybody. >> yes . musk is yours for everybody. >> yes. musk is a yours for everybody. >> yes . musk is a very >> yes. musk is a very courageous man . and, you know, courageous man. and, you know, they keep saying, well, he allows hate on it . first of all, allows hate on it. first of all, the word hate has been used simply as a left wing way of censoring thing. if they censor , censoring thing. if they censor, by definition, it's hate. >> yeah. no, no , no, i get it. >> yeah. no, no, no, i get it. >> yeah. no, no, no, i get it. >> but secondly. yes, i would
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allow it. if you hate jews , i'm allow it. if you hate jews, i'm allow it. if you hate jews, i'm a jew. you hate jews . in a jew. you hate jews. in america. we have a first amendment. you are allowed to say i hate jews. you can't say kill them because. but. but you, you. i would allow a truly vile things to be said. because once you don't allow that, it's over. >> and if they censor, they lie. i'm not going to forget that in a hurry. now look, you know, there are those that say, well, prager, you know, it's all just right propaganda funded by right wing propaganda funded by oil money. right wing propaganda funded by oil that's. right wing propaganda funded by oil that's what they say. and >> that's what they say. and that they lie . we had that proves they lie. we had a company , a frackers, not an oil company, a frackers, not an oil company, a frackers, not an oil company . i don't know if we have company. i don't know if we have ever had an oil company give us a nickel. that's that's $0.05 in america . and they gave us a few america. and they gave us a few million dollars . god bless them million dollars. god bless them for it. they they represent abouti for it. they they represent about i don't know 4 or 5% of all the money we have ever raised. they haven't given us in quite a number of years. but the fact that people in the fracking
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business even gave us any money at any time means that the guardian and others lie for a living . you can say that we are living. you can say that we are right wingers funded by oil companies . companies. >> okay, well, i thought i'd raise it because that is what they say. >> i'm very happy. yes, that is what they say. >> that's what they say. yeah. dennis the world is in a terrible state, correct? the west decline, correct. west is in decline, correct. we're facing conflict, perhaps wars . is we're facing conflict, perhaps wars. is trump going to win next year ? year? >> i am a terrible guest. whenever asked to predict the future, i never make predictions. i am predict occupied with only one thing in life. what should we do? what happens is unpredictable. yeah i know this . there is an know this. there is an existential threat that exists. there are really two existential threats in the world today, and they are not climate change as whatever the threat it is. it's not existential . there's an not existential. there's an existential threat to the west coming from the left, and
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there's an existential threat to israel coming from much of the islamic world. those are the only two existential threats on earth. all right. well dennis, i know you're going to keep fighting. that's correct. >> great stuff, jake . jacob >> great stuff, jake. jacob rees—mogg . it's rather good what rees—mogg. it's rather good what he's doing, isn't it? very good. >> very important and so refreshing to hear it so boldly put. i love, as you do, the line that censorship lying. that censorship is lying. i said, that's very powerful line. >> i've stolen that we're both going it. jacob. what going to use it. jacob. what have we got coming up this evening? >> this shocking story that i discovered night, that if discovered last night, that if you want internship with m15 you want an internship with m15 and white, you won't get and you're white, you won't get one. there is institutional one. so there is institutional racism. won't get you won't racism. you won't get you won't get no. so 96.2% of my get one. no. so 96.2% of my constituents are white. they cannot apply for an internship with our security services because they're white and this seems to me to be the real definition of institutional racism . i think it's absolutely racism. i think it's absolutely shocking and so discriminatory to the people i represent in northeast somerset. so that's what i'm going to be raising.
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>> well, i think it's a very, very good point indeed. an extraordinary, isn't it? after 13.5 of conservative 13.5 years of conservative government, this is where we've got ourselves to. government, this is where we've got quite lves to. government, this is where we've got quite depressing. i won't. >> quite depressing. i won't. i won't deny that. no. i'm sure happening with a tory government and an excellent home secretary who tough. who is very tough. >> some very strong coming >> some very strong words coming from jacob rees—mogg in just from sirjacob rees—mogg in just a the day. a moment. i'm done for the day. i'll be back with you tomorrow. maybe closer big decision. maybe closer to my big decision. but that, let's but before all of that, let's have a look and see what the very weather has store very wet weather has in store for good evening. for us. good evening. >> it's alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. many forecast. and whilst for many the thing continues the unsettled thing continues through 24 hours, it's through the next 24 hours, it's a picture for a drier but chillier picture for scotland . and that's because of scotland. and that's because of a brief ridge of high pressure which quietening the weather which is quietening the weather down bit here. down a little bit here. meanwhile the rest of the uk under the influence of a low pressure centred over republic of bringing of ireland that's bringing then heavy showery to many parts heavy showery rain to many parts of england wales and of england, wales and particularly eastern parts of northern ireland. heavy rain building up here overnight could be up to 100mm perhaps, which is
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why some impacts are likely . why some impacts are likely. drier weather across parts of scotland frost scotland, a touch of frost likely here. milder further south. with that , a few south. but with that, a few patches of mist and fog are possible first thing on tuesday morning. tuesday then, is going to changeable day with to be a changeable day with further rain across further showery rain across parts northern parts of northern ireland, northern wales , a northern england into wales, a drier for a time before drier slot for a time before more wet and windy weather arrives from the southwest later on. meanwhile across scotland here it is looking mostly dry. plenty sunshine, too, but plenty of sunshine, too, but quite chilly. temperatures struggling in single struggling here in single digits, milder further south with highs of around 14 or 15 celsius. if you're going trick or treating through tuesday evening, for of evening, watch out for a band of rain pushing way from the rain pushing its way up from the south—west, the south—west, drier towards the north. but more unsettled weather is on the way this week as kieran approaches most as storm kieran approaches most affecting southern areas as we go through wednesday night into thursday, heavy thursday, bringing some heavy rain. it's the exceptionally rain. but it's the exceptionally strong particularly strong winds, particularly around coastal parts around channel coastal parts which we're most concerned about
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well . good evening. well. good evening. >> it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight . m15 state of the nation tonight. m15 is institutionally racist against white people . all the against white people. all the domestic intelligence agency takes money from british taxpayers to discriminate against the white ones. tonight, state of the nation can reveal that the institution has been offering internships exclusively to ethnic minority gis. and it isn't alone. the usual suspects, the bank of england, the civil
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service are doing similar things, and they do it with our money. as the government's tax. one of its own members, paul bristow, calling a bristow, for calling for a ceasefire in gaza, will be asking if the consensus is breaking down. meanwhile while a mosque chairman who praised the hamas founder has been advising the prosecution service on the crown prosecution service on hate crimes, there extremist hate crimes, are there extremist sleepers amongst us as britain finds itself in the midst of record levels of legal migration? the telegraph has reported that internal home office documents suggest foreign worker are set to double worker visas are set to double over the next five years. why are we not taking back control? and we're always told that the younger generation is intent on solving the so—called climate crisis. new poll has crisis. but a new poll has suggested that it's the older generation who do more for the environment than else on environment than anyone else on all of recycling, energy, all counts of recycling, energy, saving flights insulation saving flights and insulation while the young thunberg ians are trailing behind the obedient pensioners . plus, a coup has pensioners. plus, a coup has taken place in nonnay, not a military political or revolutionary coup, but a coup
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