>> it's 930 on wednesday, the 1st of november. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, andrew pierce and bev turner. we're back together. >> very nice to be back together now. station locked down in a pro—palestine ceasefire rally took place in london, liverpool street station yesterday evening. than 500 people evening. more than 500 people joined the sit in protest. have a listen to what passengers were greeted with by either side . greeted with by either side. >> mbappe mark steyn . >> mbappe mark steyn. >> mbappe mark steyn. >> it's going to be more of it. i fear hamas commander killed israel claims the bombing of a refugee camp in gaza has taken out a key hamas commander. our security editor mark white, is in tel aviv and on some breaking developments , the rafah crossing developments, the rafah crossing into egypt is being opened up. >> we're told ambulances with some of the most badly injured will be heading back into egypt . will be heading back into egypt. for those people to get treated. and it's hoped that perhaps as

many as 500 foreign nationals will be able to leave gaza . will be able to leave gaza. >> thank you, mark. that is breaking news. we'll bring you the latest on that. and boris bombshell. it was revealed at the covid inquiry that boris johnson once suggested that covid was nature's way of deaung covid was nature's way of dealing with old people. apparently his former top aide, dominic cummings , told the dominic cummings, told the inquiry he assessed number inquiry how he assessed number ten's handling of the pandemic. >> its widespread failure. but pockets of excellent people and pockets of excellent people and pockets of excellent teams doing excellent work within an overall dysfunctional system . dysfunctional system. >> of course, he was in the excellent team, of course, the king expresses regret . charles king expresses regret. charles is in kenya, where he's facing up to britain's colonial past, saying there is no excuse for what he says unjustifiable acts of violence during the imperial rule. but i can have the latest on his visit .

on his visit. >> so much to talk about today . >> so much to talk about today. we're going to be having some very interesting discussions. let us know your thoughts, gbviews@gbnews.com. you are a big part of our conversation here. first, though, your very latest rhiannon jones . latest news with rhiannon jones. >> good morning. it's 932. i'm rhiannon jones in the newsroom. rishi sunak nk welcomes senior politicians and technology bosses to bletchley park today for the world's first summit on the safety of artificial intelligence . us vice president intelligence. us vice president kamala harris, elon musk and companies including google, meta and microsoft will look at the risks of ai. and microsoft will look at the risks of al. the prime minister's hoping to put the uk at the centre of global efforts to monitor the technology, as well as attracting business investment. the government's . investment. the government's. pledged £38 million towards ai projects around the world, which aim to boost safe and responsible programming . it's

responsible programming. it's part of a collaboration between britain, canada and the bill and melinda gates foundation . gaza's melinda gates foundation. gaza's rafah border crossing will open to allow foreign nationals and some injured civilians into egypt. some injured civilians into egypt . an agreement between egypt. an agreement between israel , egypt. an agreement between israel, hamas and egypt, brokered by the us and qatar, will mean around 80 severely wounded. gazans can get treatment. ambulances are waiting at the border. these are live images from the rafah border where the evacuations will take place. up to 500 foreign passport holders are also expected to cross into egypt. james cleverly says uk teams are ready to assist british nationals as soon as they can leave. it's not yet clear how long the crossing will remain open . a former top civil remain open. a former top civil servant is due to appear at the covid inquiry later. helen mcnamara was deputy cabinet secretary in 2020 and 2021 and

played a key role in britain's covid response. she also made headunes covid response. she also made headlines for providing a karaoke machine for a party held at downing street during lockdown, which resulted in a fine from the metropolitan police . two days of hearings police. two days of hearings have described a dysfunctional and indecisive lviv culture as bofis and indecisive lviv culture as boris johnson . s government boris johnson. s government struggled with its response to the pandemic and amber weather warnings are in place for the south coast of england as storm kieran approaches the uk. the met office says wind and rain could bring potential risk to life and property . parts of life and property. parts of northern ireland have already been flooded by heavy rainfall and people are being warned not to travel. it comes less than two weeks after storm babet caused widespread damage across the uk . and you can get more on the uk. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gb news.com all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com now it's back over to andrew and . bev

morning. >> good morning. we're back together again. >> we are. it's been some weeks since we've missed each other terribly . terribly. >> obviously we're delighted to be here. let us know your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. how much have you missed us there? >> we are now talking serious stuff. now a group of pro palestinian activists staged a sit in at liverpool street station in london last night in protest at israel's war with hamas. >> that's right. by my >> that's right. by my side . by my side. >> my side . my by my side. >> my side. my. >> my side. my. >> so that's liverpool street station here in london. more

than 500 people joined the protest . well, the thing is, protest. well, the thing is, they're saying their demanding an an instant ceasefire to the attacks. but actually what they are chanting, sarah vine, who's with us now, is free palestine, which is a very different sort of protest. >> well , the thing is, what >> well, the thing is, what really surprises me about so many of these protests, which which seem to be supporting hamas , i mean, i'm not, you know hamas, i mean, i'm not, you know , not everybody there will be, you know, of that ilk, but there is a lot of there are a lot of people at these protests who are openly supporting hamas, wearing pictures of people with parachutes and chanting , parachutes and chanting, understood hamas slogans . is understood hamas slogans. is that so many of them are women ? that so many of them are women? it's very in fact, this group was organised on the radio that i would say that protest is dominated by women and it was organised by something called the sisters of something or other. and, and it really it really upsets me the fact that so many women to be support so many women seem to be support ing a group of people who just

went into into civilian houses and just raped and tortured other women. i mean, you know, and also, let's not forget that they killed their babies. yes. and also, let's not forget that hamas are funded by iran . and hamas are funded by iran. and we've just had last week another young girl died in a hospital in iran having been beaten up by the morality police who were also , as it happens, women. it's also, as it happens, women. it's very it's i think as a woman, it's very disturbing, this sort of anti—woman feeling from women. it's just really bizarre . women. it's just really bizarre. ijust women. it's just really bizarre. i just don't understand it. >> i guess they would argue that the so many of the lives currently being lost in gaza because of the bombing are children . gaza has children. gaza has a disproportionate number of under eighteens who live there . but i eighteens who live there. but i agree with you, sarah, because what i'm not hearing necessarily is calls for a ceasefire this is very much a political rally deaung very much a political rally dealing with an issue that for the vast majority of people in

this country feels a very long way away. and i don't think it is a long way away. >> i mean, i think when you strip everything back, this is about the right of israel to exist and it's about the right of israel's citizens to not have incursions into their land the whole time. if you if you don't think that israel has a right to exist, that's a that's a separate thing. but i do and i think a lot of people do. and that's the position of the british government. it is a legitimate state and it has the right to exist. and therefore, if by terrorists, if it is attacked by terrorists, which what happened on which is what happened on october 7th, has a right october the 7th, it has a right to and to defend to retaliate and to defend itself. now of course, the humanitarian situation in gaza is appalling . but the problem is appalling. but the problem with hamas is that they are embedded in gaza among the civilian population . and that civilian population. and that tells you the kind of well, i can't think of a polite word to say, the kind of people they are, which is that they don't care about civilians. they use them as these human shields. they use them as human shields.

they use them as human shields. they do these people who run hamas hide behind the skirts of women and they hide behind under the cots of little babies . and the cots of little babies. and then the you know, so then and so the you know, so inevitably and they do it on purpose because then it makes israel look like big, bad baby killers marry. >> this idea that we've got to have the right to free demonstrations and protests with the idea that, well, it has to be within the rule of be conducted within the rule of the law. >> and you can't incite hatred. it's the other day the police >> and you can't incite hatred. it's titakinger day the police >> and you can't incite hatred. it's titaking down the police >> and you can't incite hatred. it's titaking down stickersce >> and you can't incite hatred. it's titaking down stickers of were taking down stickers of missing israeli children in london and manchester. and they were and they were taking down perfectly innocent posters saying this child is missing because they were worried about, you know, creating . you can't you know, creating. you can't pander . to you know, creating. you can't pander. to sort of you know, creating. you can't pander . to sort of terrorists pander. to sort of terrorists sympathisers. it's just say about the police. >> a red line, though, sarah the police are doing that. >> i just you know, they think they should be impartial want they should be impartial want they think that's what their bosses want. >> that's the worry. >> that's the worry. >> it means that they're

frightened, isn't it? >> exactly. and, you know, we see people having see in paris, people are having stars put on their stars of david put on their doors. it's and you know, and jewish jewish citizens in in britain really, really britain are really, really frightened . frightened. >> think the most terrifying >> i think the most terrifying footage i've seen this week footage that i've seen this week was the airport in russia was at the airport in russia when flight arrived from tel when the flight arrived from tel aviv and hundreds, potentially thousands of people had stormed the airport and were surrounding the airport and were surrounding the aeroplane. if anybody had got off that plane, they would have lynched somehow . have been lynched somehow. authorities to step up to authorities have to step up to quell this division. yeah, it's heartbreaking. >> and if you look on i mean, a lot of this is coming from social media and tiktok particularly is very, very pro hamas. if you go on there, you will see that there's a and there are a lot of very young people who just get their news from a 32nd tiktok click clip , from a 32nd tiktok click clip, rather. and simply lies the rather. and it's simply lies the situation beyond belief . but, situation beyond belief. but, you know, it's a really grown up problem. and it's not it's not something that you can just sort of dismiss in a in a piece of little sort of dancy tiktok tok

thing. horrible moral quandary. >> you're you're staying with us with the breaking news from the foreign secretary, james cleverly says the rafah cleverly who says the rafah crossing is likely open today crossing is likely to open today for group of foreign for a first group of foreign nationals, include nationals, which could include brits gaza . brits to leave gaza. >> that's right, he said uk teams are ready assist teams are ready to assist british nationals as soon as they are able to leave . it's they are able to leave. it's vital life saving vital that life saving humanitarian aid can enter gaza as quickly as possible. so mark white joins us live now from tel aviv. mark you broke this news for us just at the top of our show. what more do we know ? show. what more do we know? >> well, it looks as though the preparations are undennay for just what james cleverly was suggesting would happen , that suggesting would happen, that finally all these weeks after the 7th of october attacks, when that crossing has remained closed, except for a few aid trucks in that it will open to allow some of these foreign nationals and dual nationals citizens to leave gaza . as we citizens to leave gaza. as we speak, hundreds of people are

now gathering at the border ahead and anticipating the opening of the crossing . we've opening of the crossing. we've had a stream of ambulances that have come in from the egyptian side into gaza to pick up. we're told more than 80 of the most severely injured people from gaza, civilians that will be taken out through the rafah crossing and into egypt and nearby egypt has set up a field hospital with the latest in technology and doctors available to start treating these people in earnest as they come out . in in earnest as they come out. in addition to that, we are told that perhaps as many as 500 foreign nationals could be allowed to leave through the rafah crossing today. and among them, it's hoped, will be british nationals as well. so they're queuing there . border they're queuing there. border force officials from the uk, border officials from other nafions border officials from other nations as well there to help process these people to ensure

they are who they say they are, that they are british nationals, that they are british nationals, that they're not hamas terrorists for instance, trying to come out through egypt. so they will be checked. israel has seemingly got the assurances it needed.the seemingly got the assurances it needed. the egyptians wanted assurances as well. there have been very significant negotiations taking place with the foreign office and other government with israel and egypt over recent days to achieve what we seem to be witnessing now on the rafah border. the opening of this border, at least in part, to allow these foreign nationals and these injured people to get through . through. >> all right, mark, thank you. that's mark white. sarah vine still with us. well, that's some good news. yeah. >> i mean, humanitarian corridors the way fonnard, corridors are the way fonnard, obviously, to obviously, because you've got to get from under hamas get people out from under hamas because the thing is, if you imagine that the a terrorist group had embedded itself in chiswick. yeah. and was, you know, hiding in people's houses , know, hiding in people's houses, you know, what's the

government's supposed to do just let stay there. they can't. let them stay there. they can't. they've got to get rid of them. so you've got to have a humanitarian corridor. people have of hamas, have got to come out of hamas, of they've got to be of gaza. they've got to be helped. they've to be able helped. they've got to be able to leave. >> and i keep reading. there's no electricity in the hospitals in is in gaza, but there is electricity to power hamas electricity to power the hamas missiles. is the missiles. well, this is the problem that the whole israel problem is that the whole israel basically, you know, runs all the the the electricity and all the water the internet in water and all the internet in gaza problem is, is that gaza and the problem is, is that if they switch off, they do if they switch it off, they do it because they don't want hamas to to it. to have access to it. >> then, of course, it >> but then, of course, it affects, again, this is the problem with having a terrorist organisation is embedded problem with having a terrorist 0|large ation is embedded problem with having a terrorist 0|large civilian is embedded problem with having a terrorist 0|large civilian population. :ied a large civilian population. >> of course, the >> and then of course, the question being how many people are to from are egypt's going to take from gaza? will they home? gaza? how many will they home? how many? >> is, is that >> well, the thing is, is that they don't want them because they're worried might they're worried that they might also be terrorists. also they might be terrorists. and the issue. how can and this is the issue. how can they there's a reason they vet that? there's a reason why the surrounding countries are reluctant to take them are very reluctant to take them because want this on because they don't want this on their their garden. it's their in their back garden. it's very complicated very difficult. >> and course, we're hoping >> and of course, we're hoping

there nationals there are some british nationals who going to get yeah who are going to get out. yeah well, mean, just think all well, i mean, i just think all innocent people should be able to get out. >> yeah, they should. >> yeah, they should. >> do you think keir starmer is managing himself >> do you think keir starmer is man sarah himself >> do you think keir starmer is man sarah the himself >> do you think keir starmer is man sarah the messagef >> do you think keir starmer is man sarah the message is yet? sarah from the message is getting i mean he's getting himself well i mean he's he's being asked he's he's very much being asked by by the grassroots to by his by by the grassroots to nail colours the mast. nail his colours to the mast. >> mean you know, let's face >> i mean you know, let's face it, anti—semitism problem in it, the anti—semitism problem in the was the labour party is real. was real and it real still is real. and it hasn't got. >> 78% britain's muslims >> 78% of britain's muslims vote. labour >> papered over >> yeah, they papered it over quite there. and quite well, but it's there. and of this scratch the of course this scratch the surface. and surface. yeah, yeah. and i can still remember labour still remember the labour conference when ghastly. >> name. corbyn was, >> what's his name. corbyn was, was the palestinian was leader and the palestinian flags decorating conference flags decorating the conference hall. was saying i see everyone was saying and i see that's changed hasn't that's all changed hasn't because and many because the activists and many of the mps, their hearts lie with people gaza and with with the people in gaza and the councillors, and they don't like israel. >> just say whenever you >> no, we just say whenever you mention jeremy corbyn, you always gaza before always say gaza before it becomes jeremy corbyn becomes ghastly. jeremy corbyn because me just in case you because let me just in case you didn't the ghastly didn't catch that, the ghastly jeremy corbyn we could even add marxist right now, picture marxist right now, the picture being painted of boris johnson's handung handling of the covid pandemic is chaos .

is one of absolute chaos. >> one of the main headlines, bofis >> one of the main headlines, boris johnson , was slow to make boris johnson, was slow to make decisions and had the view that covid was, quote, nature's way of dealing with old people. >> so as it continues today , >> so as it continues today, will it as explosive as what will it be as explosive as what we from dominic cummings? we heard from dominic cummings? gb news reporter thompson is with us now. judge just sum up, if you will, for viewers who didn't see it yesterday at the covid inquiry, what came out from cummings's analysis of the situation , apart from swearing situation, apart from swearing the awful language, they had terrible language. keith casey and this is the there's nothing actually more entertaining than actually more entertaining than a lawyer reading out four letter words from a whatsapp message . words from a whatsapp message. that was three years ago. >> difficult to follow, >> so difficult to follow, though, didn't it, because there were had keep were so many bleeps had to keep cutting because of all cutting away from because of all the satire, but it is >> but it's satire, but it is also infuriating for those of us who want proper answers. >> it did, though, >> i think what it did, though, when messages when all these whatsapp messages were us the were read out showed us the indecision , the dithering, the indecision, the dithering, the slagging off that was going on,

whereas at home, you know, we were trying to follow the rules, do what we were told, and it was utter chaos. that is what we heard from dominic cummings yesterday. and the people yesterday. and one of the people mentioned was was the woman, the former deputy, helen mcnamara. mcnamara, who will be starting to give evidence to the inquiry in the next few minutes. now, she starts giving her evidence today . there was a bit of an today. there was a bit of an introduction about her yesterday from dominic cummings when he was accused of being misogynistic towards her. we've actually got a clip. we can we can play you just have a an extract from mr johnson's fight back whatsapp group . back whatsapp group. >> you say this . at 1220. if >> you say this. at 1220. if i have to come back to helen's, pete was that propriety and ethics. yes. part of the cabinet office or number 10 designed to waste huge amounts of my time so i can't spend it on other stuff. i can't spend it on other stuff. i will personally handcuff her and escort her from the building

. had you got form mr comey for arranging for people to be escorted from number 10 before? >> you shouldn't believe everything you read in the newspapers that story is not accurate . accurate. >> i don't care how it's done , >> i don't care how it's done, but that woman must be out of our hair. we cannot keep dealing with this horrific meltdown of the while dodging the british state while dodging stilettos that , say , sarah. stilettos from that, say, sarah. >> because sarah, you know dominic cummings , you've written dominic cummings, you've written a powerful piece in the paper today about his unhinged , today about his unhinged, unhinged vendetta against boris and your own ex—husband, michael gove. yes. who he used to be friends with. he friends with. yes is he a misogynist ? no he's he's he's an misogynist? no he's he's he's an equal opportunities pig. >> yes. he's rude to everybody. yes. he's not particularly . i yes. he's not particularly. i mean, women are not especially singled out for unpleasant treatment . i think the he coined treatment. i think the he coined a fantastic new swear word for members of the cabinet that ends in pig. yes. it starts with the

f word. >> the f word. >> the f word. >> but this is what it's so infuriating. sarah i don't care whether dominic cummings is a misogynist. this isn't an inquiry designed to tell us the characters of these jokers. because if we have another pandemic at the behest of china or the who, these people won't be in power. it doesn't actually matter what their character is like. >> you're completely right. i mean, but this is the this is this specific bit of this inquiry is the political bit. there is going to be more and it will be. i mean, for example, i, i wait to find out why it i can't wait to find out why it was that for some reason we decided to the government decided to the government decided single decided to buy every single private and never private hospital and then never used bed . i mean, there used a single bed. i mean, there are all sorts more are all sorts of much more important questions that this inquiry needs to and lot important questions that this intthem feeds to and lot important questions that this intthem areis to and lot important questions that this intthem are about, and lot important questions that this intthem are about, you 1d lot important questions that this intthem are about, you know, it of them are about, you know, just incompetence in government and this is this is and government. this is this is the sort of psychodrama, political a bit. political psychodrama a bit. once this is over, we will get to the sort of i think the more important stuff. >> is costing the >> but this is costing the taxpayer the psychobabble political drama is costing the

taxpayer how many million ? taxpayer how many million? >> 40 million starting. >> 40 million starting. >> yes , starting bid. >> yes, starting bid. >> yes, starting bid. >> but also but cummings of you also was there was a tiny pocket of people who were very good, which of course includes the thing is and all the politicians were. >> i will i would say this now which that i have had several which is that i have had several messages from people today saying me to within saying he bullied me to within aninch saying he bullied me to within an inch of my sanity. the you know, the thing about dominic is that he's very clever, very brilliant many , many ways, that he's very clever, very bril|heit many , many ways, that he's very clever, very bril|he has many , many ways, that he's very clever, very bril|he has a any , many ways, that he's very clever, very bril|he has a very many ways, that he's very clever, very bril|he has a very abrasive ays, that he's very clever, very bril|he has a very abrasive style but he has a very abrasive style and that's fine as long as it's contained. the problem with his when he was problem with covid and the way things went and bofis and the way things went and boris being at one point really ill and sort of, you know, not really is that he got out of control and there was no one to stop him. and i think i think that's that's what happened there. and i think i think he began to think, as did lee and to an extent, simon case, that they were actually running the show, their thing show, that it was their thing and and they were and were unelected and they were completely unelected and extraordinarily irony of them complaining endlessly about

carey her oar in. is carey sticking her oar in. is yes. is that is that they had no more right . yes. is that is that they had no more right. yes. >> than yes absolutely . cause >> than yes absolutely. cause they're unelected. i thought pip for me the most interesting part of the inquiry yesterday was when they talked about at the borders was borders because this was yesterday, the discussion at the start of the pandemic, january, february. >> should they have closed borders into march borders more quickly into march and then and actually be the way that hugo keith kc was pushing towards the fact that we need a track and trace and isolate system? >> i think cummings said if that had been implemented by march 2020, this lockdown need not have happened. cummings also claimed that he was saying that at the end of december , flights at the end of december, flights to and from china should have been stopped. yeah, when nobody could quite understand why they were coming . were still coming. >> that's the bit that >> but that's the bit that should very clearly should frighten us very clearly from that you from the time was that you remember on hindsight is remember we look on hindsight is a thing. a very wonderful thing. >> time that seemed >> but at the time that seemed like a really draconian measure, like a really draconian measure, uke one like a really draconian measure, like one had ever done

like no one had ever done anything like that ever. we'd never flights from from never blocked flights from from from. never locked down the from. we'd never locked down the airports or the or the ports or anything like that. so the whole thing it was it was about thing was it was it was about a cognitive shift taking cognitive shift that taking place in what would be doable and acceptable . and i think and acceptable. and i think because because the thing about dominic, which makes him really brilliant is really brilliant is that he is really good charts. good at reading the charts. he does understand data and in does understand the data and in his he will have looked at his brain he will have looked at that and seen that that would have thing do. have been the right thing to do. >> only a few days >> the data was only a few days before lockdown, only a few days before lockdown. >> to >> they were still trying to push for immunity. >> they were still trying to push for immunity . yeah. push for herd immunity. yeah. talking about chickenpox , there talking about chickenpox, there was a big debate whether about whether they did the sweden model which been proven to model, which has been proven to have extremely successful have been extremely successful or they did they or whether they did what they ended or whether they did what they encand there was a there >> and there was a huge there were of people in were a lot of people in government felt that the government who felt that the right to would to right thing to do would be to isolate vulnerable, to make isolate the vulnerable, to make sure were properly sure that they were properly looked protected sure that they were properly l0( give protected sure that they were properly lotgive to protected sure that they were properly lotgive to put protected sure that they were properly lotgive to put place :ted sure that they were properly lotgive to put place measures to give to put in place measures to give to put in place measures to that they would not to make sure that they would not isolate like socially and isolate it like socially and whatever, just that that whatever, but just that that they of harm's way

they were kept out of harm's way and let and to let the and to let and to let the younger healthy , younger younger healthy, younger population have disease , population have the disease, which gets us into what has been interpreted as boris johnson's comments about the elderly, the diary entries. because because his because he was trying to make he was trying to make a really complex, difficult decision about what long term repercussions of covid and long term repercussions of locking down. we have seen we have seen those long term described as a $400 billion. now more people have now died , ed, because they have now died, ed, because they haven't been treated for cancer and other diseases have and other diseases than have died because of covid. >> and younger people . >> and younger people. >> and younger people. >> was to gain all >> he was trying to gain all that and to work out what was the thing about people, the thing don't thing that people don't remember, is remember, don't understand is that wasn't right that it wasn't about the right thing. about the least thing. it was about the least bad thing. there were no good options. there no silver options. there was no silver bullet. there was nothing that was a bad thing for older people to accept. >> for everybody. >> just for everybody. >> just for everybody. >> whole country , yes. >> but also, i need to i want to defend johnson on that. defend boris johnson on that. and me to do that and far be it from me to do that on a regular basis, i might have

to start doing it more regularly in building. in this building. but he is saying flu season and saying like a bad flu season and we hadn't had season we hadn't had bad flu season 2018, 2019. he's saying like 2018, 2019. so he's saying like in a bad flu season, unfortunately , some very frail unfortunately, some very frail and people succumb and elderly people will succumb or a bad norovirus season. but flu a better comparison. flu is a better comparison. >> but can you understand how flu is a better comparison. >> blthati you understand how flu is a better comparison. >> blthat goes understand how flu is a better comparison. >> blthat goes down stand how flu is a better comparison. >> blthat goes down when how flu is a better comparison. >> blthat goes down when that's badly that goes down when that's heard at the inquiry? i understand that that's dominic cummings's interpretation . cummings's interpretation. >> was patrick vallance. >> essentially in diary. >> essentially in his diary. >> essentially in his diary. >> but but some of this >> but but also but some of this remember, this comments remember, this is comments made between and a between a politician and a scientist in a corridor. there almost like flippant remarks, which then get written down. it wasn't he didn't say this in some high powered cabinet committee meeting. he just said it off the top, but also said what a lot of people were thinking. >> but also, this is somebody turning over the options and the reality mind, trying reality in their mind, trying to work what the right work out what is the right solution. so you'll say, well, if we do that, then this what if we do that, then this is what happens do that, this is happens if we do that, this is what dominates criticism of him as is not as being a ditherer is not right. it's just that the decisions that being

decisions that he was being asked to make were difficult asked to make were so difficult and such and so complicated and had such huge. and so complicated and had such huge . of course, he was going to huge. of course, he was going to ask lots of people's opinion. of course going gain the course he was going to gain the various and there was various options and there was a lot of that going on and i think it was the person's it was was the last person's opinion was the opinion that he heard was the one he went, yeah, that's one that he went, yeah, that's but i also think there was something noble about a conservative prime minister thinking not want to close thinking, i do not want to close down economy. thinking, i do not want to close down 6 did omy. thinking, i do not want to close down edid he?. >> so why did he? >> so why did he? >> because the end, they >> because in the end, they looked around the world and everybody else is doing it. >> in the end, absolute >> well, in the end, absolute definition of spineless. definition of being spineless. >> end, they i have to >> so in the end, they i have to say, i saw of the projects say, i saw a lot of the projects that in and they that were coming in and they were apocalyptic and they were wildly inaccurate when neil ferguson said half a million people will be dead, it was modelling exactly. >> but they were saying modelling the modelling was they were the scientists. if they didn't do this, we need to go. >> just say quickly to >> can i just say quickly to just stress, boris johnson will be will be giving evidence, as will rishi the end of rishi sunak before the end of the so what heard the year. so what we heard yesterday standing room yesterday will be standing room only, right? >> go anywhere. we're >> don't go anywhere. we're going to talking king going to be talking about king charles this charles in kenya. this is

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channel 10:00 on wednesday, the 1st of november. how did that happen ? november. how did that happen? this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> boris, bombshell. well it was revealed at the covid inquiry. bofis revealed at the covid inquiry. boris johnson once suggested that covid was nature's way of deaung that covid was nature's way of dealing with old people. his former top aide, dominic cummings, told the inquiry how he assessed number ten's

handung he assessed number ten's handling of the pandemic widespread failure. >> but pockets of excellent people and pockets of excellent teams doing excellent work within an overall dysfunctional system , it's slightly system, it's slightly differently, slowly stopping the boats. >> small boat arrivals of migrants are down by a third, compared to last year. the home office are calling it good progress. is rishi sunak finally getting a grip of the problem? let us know what you think. getting a grip of the problem? let and now what you think. getting a grip of the problem? let and the what you think. getting a grip of the problem? let and the king: you think. getting a grip of the problem? let and the king expressesz. >> and the king expresses regret. charles is in kenya with the queen, where he's facing up to colonial he to britain's colonial past. he says no excuse unjustifiable says no excuse for unjustifiable acts of violence during imperial rule. we'll give you the latest on his visit and excel bulldogs band the breed is being added to the list of banned dogs in england and wales, making it illegal to own one without an exemption from february next year. yean >> that bully dog story . it

yean >> that bully dog story. it is amazing what the governments can do quickly when they want to . do quickly when they want to. >> they have done it well and because they'll be banned by february and they only what rishi a couple of weeks ago rishi said a couple of weeks ago and you've got to get cross—party consensus as well. but they've still got to get it through the house of lords. and there may be some silly old peer who tries to throw spanner who tries to throw a spanner in the there'd an the works, but there'd be an outcry if they did. >> well, you are silly >> well, if you are a silly old peer you want to email us peer and you want to email us your why gbviews@gbnews.com. >> let me tell you, >> because let me tell you, there quite a lot of serial peers. >> let us know your thoughts on all stories this morning. all of our stories this morning. first, though, here's your very latest rhiannon . latest news with rhiannon. >> thank you. good morning . it's >> thank you. good morning. it's coming up to 10:02. your top stories from the newsroom. rishi sunak welcomes senior politicians and technology bosses to bletchley park today for the world's first summit on the safety of artificial intelligence. us vice president kamala harris, elon musk and companies including google, meta

and microsoft are assessing the risks of ai, the prime minister's hopes to put the uk at the centre of global efforts to monitor the technology , as to monitor the technology, as well as attracting business investment. the government has pledged £38 million towards boosting safe and responsible ai programming around the world. it's part of a collaborate action between the uk, canada and the bill and melinda gates foundation , an gaza's rafah foundation, an gaza's rafah border crossing has opened to allow foreign nationals, as well as some injured civilians, into egypt. as some injured civilians, into egypt . these pictures are as some injured civilians, into egypt. these pictures are coming to us live from rafah. now. we'll throw you to those in a second when we get them. an international agreement will mean around 80 severely wounded gazans can get treatment . the gazans can get treatment. the first group have now crossed the border in ambulances and are receiving treatment at a nearby field hospital up to 500 foreign passport holders are also

expected to cross into egypt . expected to cross into egypt. james cleverly says uk teams are ready to assist british nationals as soon as they can leave. aid trucks have also crossed with the foreign secretary warning it's vital lifesaving aid enters into gaza to ease the humanity crisis there. it's not yet clear how long the crossing will remain open and we'll bring you those images, those live images as soon as we get them . it comes as soon as we get them. it comes as the israeli military says nine of its soldiers have been killed dunng of its soldiers have been killed during its ground offensive into gaza. during its ground offensive into gaza . explosions have been heard gaza. explosions have been heard this morning as israel's bombardment continues . the bombardment continues. the israeli israel defence forces says it's hit 11,000 hamas targets so far. the idf also claims an airstrike yesterday killed a senior hamas commander. it says was a ringleader of the attack on the 7th of october.

palestinian officials say 50 gazans were killed and another 150 injured in that strike. can campaigners back here in london have projected the words ceasefire. now on to the houses of parliament in the colours of the palestinian flag. it was organised by save the children and other charities that say rishi sunak must put lives above politics and backed calls for a ceasefire now handing a petition with over 300,000 signatures over to the government . in other over to the government. in other news, a former top civil servant is due to appear at the covid inquiry later. helen mcnamara was deputy cabinet secretary in 2020 and 2021 and played a key role in britain's covid response . she also made headlines for providing a karaoke machine for a party held at downing street dunng a party held at downing street during lockdown, resulting in a fine from the metropolitan police. two days of hearings

have described a dysfunctional and india divisive culture as bofis and india divisive culture as boris johnson's government struggled with its response to the pandemic. struggled with its response to the pandemic . think house prices the pandemic. think house prices has increased by 0.9% in october, which experts say reflects the limited supply of properties on the market. nationwide's market index showed an increase on last month's figures, though average prices across the uk are down 3.3% compared to last year . the compared to last year. the building society says market activity remains weak, with a number of mortgages approved in september down 30% a doctors are urging people to get their covid and flu jabs after it was revealed millions of those who are eligible haven't yet taken up the offer. cases of flu and covid are expected to rise significantly during the colder months. a new campaign called get winter strong aims to encourage people to get the jab, even if they don't typically

come fonnard. doctors say it's one of the most important things any of us can do to protect ourselves from serious illness . ourselves from serious illness. hundreds of schools in scotland are closed today as support staff walk out in a dispute over pay- staff walk out in a dispute over pay. janet as cleaners and pupils support assistants are among those striking. it's part of rolling action by unison members after they rejected an earlier pay offer . more walkouts earlier pay offer. more walkouts are expected next week . amber are expected next week. amber weather warnings are in place for the south coast of england as storm kieran approaches the uk . the met office says wind and uk. the met office says wind and rain could bring potential risk to life and property parts of northern ireland have already been flooded due to heavy rainfall and people have been warned not to travel. it comes less than two weeks after storm babet caused widespread damage across the uk and the king and queen are in kenya on day two of their state visit , their

their state visit, their majesties are celebrating animal welfare and environmental conservation with a tour of an elephant orphanage on the queen's agenda . the king will queen's agenda. the king will also visit an urban forest to highlight the importance of green spaces in our cities. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's back over to andrew and bev . back over to andrew and bev. good morning. >> it's 1007. what day is it? >> it's 1007. what day is it? >> do they make those royals do that dancing? if you were listening, forgive me, but camilla was was being forced to dance with some locals . she dance with some locals. she looked horrendously uncomfortable , as did they. uncomfortable, as did they. >> we're to going be talking about that trip in a little while. but you've been getting in home. you so in touch at home. thank you so much. of people saying much. a lot of people saying lovely see you saying lovely to see you back, saying you look very well and rested and your hair and and they like your hair and compare yesterday that compare me yesterday to that guy from peaky blinders. >> peaky blinders . >> peaky blinders. >> peaky blinders.

>> you ten years younger . >> you look ten years younger. right. and also about the protests in liverpool street station yesterday. jools has said, by the said, i'm appalled by the terrifying at terrifying scenes of protests at liverpool street. very intimidating . liverpool street. very intimidating. i liverpool street. very intimidating . i can't help intimidating. i can't help thinking strong thinking we'll need a strong military remembrance military presence on remembrance day. that's a very good point. >> yeah, and david says one of the most depressing things i've ever seen my are those ever seen in my life are those police officers tearing down posters israeli children. >> my faith in britain gone . >> my faith in britain has gone. >> my faith in britain has gone. >> why? >> why? >> what do you think possessed them? >> don't want any trouble. >> they don't want any trouble. i it was in a i presume it was in a predominantly muslim area. maybe that they were that somebody had put they were on on the front of on the shutters on the front of shop windows. i guess they're trying the tensions trying to keep the tensions down. defending but down. i'm not defending it, but i can understand the police are under a lot of pressure at the moment. >> chief constable has apologised, but to me i know and also the covid inquiry, also about the covid inquiry, jessica has said the covid inquiry about learning inquiry should be about learning and to better and understanding how to better deal pandemics. and understanding how to better deal cetera. pandemics. and understanding how to better deal cetera. this1ndemics. and understanding how to better deal cetera. this inquiry, ;. >> et cetera. this inquiry, however , is allowing a political however, is allowing a political agenda place that once agenda to take place that once again blames boris johnson for absolutely . absolutely everything. >> when he was prime minister. that's what happens when the

buck stops at the top. >> you think they're going buck stops at the top. >> usu think they're going buck stops at the top. >> us talknk they're going buck stops at the top. >> us talk to they're going buck stops at the top. >> us talk to him?'e going buck stops at the top. >> us talk to him? gb oing buck stops at the top. >> us talk to him? gb news when let us talk to him? gb news when he comes? >> well, he's going star >> well, he's going to be star member team sheet. and member on the team sheet. and i think he should first think he should do his first interview with me . no, with us. interview with me. no, with us. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's what you mean. us >> that's what you mean. us >> that's what you mean. us >> that is what i mean. but i might have a different sort of question to you and we can agree. yeah, i have a different type of question than you would. but anyway, not that i've been turning over idea of being turning over the idea of being in for the last in a room with him for the last three anyway, nicholas three years. anyway, nicholas says there's a vulnerable autoimmune was autoimmune person. i was extremely if the extremely worried that if the elderly disabled extremely worried that if the elderlocked disabled extremely worried that if the elderlocked and disabled extremely worried that if the elderlocked and diseresti were locked down and the rest of the free live, we the country free to live, we might forgotten. and might have been forgotten. and the vaccine would the chase for a vaccine would not have been expedited. so really thought. really interesting thought. nicola that nicola and peter says that people covid people knew that covid was a fraud pandemic. people know fraud pandemic. the people know the is the the immigration invasion is the only needs only pandemic that now needs 100% the government to listen 100% of the government to listen to remove. it wasn't to and stop to remove. it wasn't a pandemic , it was a fraud pandemic, but it was certainly exaggerated . certainly exaggerated. >> well, now let's talk >> okay, well, now let's talk about picture being painted , about the picture being painted, of course, of the government handung of course, of the government handling the pandemic was one handling of the pandemic was one

of according of chaos, according to one dominic cummings. that's right. >> he served, of course, as mr johnson's chief the johnson's chief aide at the start pandemic, gave start of the pandemic, gave evidence for several hours yesterday. a look. yesterday. let's have a look. >> configured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be configured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be the configured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be the nerve configured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be the nerve centre�*onfigured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be the nerve centre offigured yesterday. let's have a look. >> be the nerve centre of a|ured to be the nerve centre of a national crisis ipsis like covid because of the absence of personnel or the absence of structure that allows people in number 10 to liaise with all the other parts of government in every in every way, physically in terms of data, in terms of the physical layout and the lack of the proper rooms that you would have for a crisis centre. in terms of the personnel . well, in terms of the personnel. well, in terms of the power , as i've in terms of the power, as i've tried to explain real power on these things is almost entirely in the cabinet office, not in number 10. so so number 10 was just completely unsuitable for this. well joining us now is the political columnist at the sun, trevor kavanagh, who's had a long and experienced eye on all matters, politics. >> and trevor, morning to you .

>> and trevor, morning to you. one thing you can people who don't know dominic cummings like you will have you and i do will work have worked that he's worked out by now that he's a bully. he's arrogant, rude and very self—centred. but does some of his criticisms of boris , are of his criticisms of boris, are they legitimate in the sense that he dithered, delayed and changed his mind? it seemed from one day to the next? >> well, i agree that there are some charges that stick with bofis some charges that stick with boris and i have to say that i've known dominic cummings as someone known him quite closely for about a quarter of a century . and i'm personally surprised and maybe you are, too, the way he's transformed from a very thoughtful operator to basically a megalomaniac, a destructive megalomania whose puppet was lee cain, the press officer who's now turned completely turtle turtle on this. and is blaming bofis turtle on this. and is blaming boris for everything. and boris does deserve some blame for lots of things. but he was absolutely dead right in those early days when he was talking about not

trying to live with covid for those initial months. and i think that he's learned and so has the rest of the world that sweden got it right . if we were sweden got it right. if we were going to follow sweden , we going to follow sweden, we weren't going to have a lockdown and boris was right to resist. >> do you think i mean, some people are saying, should we care about the bad language he uses what we should really be caring about is were the right decisions made? it seems to me from even what you are saying, that boris was straining came across some obstacles to lockdown in obtaining material that you needed for your witness statement. could you tell us something about that ? something about that? >> and i want to be quite >> i did, and i want to be quite careful i think just careful because i think just sorry to interrupt you, trevor. >> basically, what that was helen there, who's helen macnamara there, who's giving evidence at the giving her evidence at the moment. so apologies. there was a technical a little bit of a technical crossover we will be crossover there. we will be reporting what helen was i don't know if you heard the question. >> what saying, seemed know if you heard the question. >>me1at saying, seemed know if you heard the question. >>me1at cummings seemed know if you heard the question. >>me1at cummings seboris to me from cummings that boris was straining at leash was straining at the leash initially to avoid lockdown

initially to avoid a lockdown because of the huge damage on the economy. schoolchildren all the economy. schoolchildren all the it. yes the rest of it. yes >> and hasn't he been absolutely vindicated in that sense , which vindicated in that sense, which was shared by everybody else for a while alongside him, including the health experts? whitty and vallance, and indeed , i think by vallance, and indeed, i think by dominic himself at one point. and what we have had as a result of these decisions which went completely wrong , is a cost for completely wrong, is a cost for the country in economic and social terms, which will never be repaired in our lifetimes . be repaired in our lifetimes. >> it's i just want to you to read to you, if i can, the whatsapp message of boris johnson, which was revealed yesterday, which is where boris johnson said , i must say i've johnson said, i must say i've been slightly rocked by some of the data on covid fatalities. the median age is 80 to 81 for men and 85 for women. that is above life expectancy. so get covid and live longer. hardly anyone under 60 goes into hospital and of those virtually all survive . and he said, i'm no

all survive. and he said, i'm no longer buying all this nhs ovennhelmed stuff folks. i think we need to calibrate it now. the questions forever that needs answering surely is why didn't he recalibrate who influenced him to suddenly continue down the route that we now know has caused so much harm? i'm frustrated that not asking the right questions. trevor well, i'm frustrated too. >> i think this this inquiry is turning into a travesty . it's turning into a travesty. it's missing the point. and boris was absolutely right. once again on this particular point, as a spokesman for the aged aged over 80, i can speak with some authority that we are now living. we are seeing people living. we are seeing people living well into a period of more than average age who are suffering from various associated diseases with their age group, who are actually regarded by actuarial experts as a pensioner. harvest whenever a thing like a covid or a flu attack hits, they make they make

allowances for this mathematical preparation for exactly this sort of it's not the heartless sort of it's not the heartless sort of it's not the heartless sort of attitude that is being portrayed here. it is the fact of life and death . of life and death. >> yeah, it is. and unfortunately, we get quite uncomfortable at talking about those things. >> trevor and also trevor . i >> trevor and also trevor. i think the other thing just finally with you is that some of the things the prime minister said that may appear now cold hearted flippant, but hearted and flippant, but actually he was just talking to colleagues a corridor in colleagues in a corridor in a meeting and these sort of conversations would happening conversations would be happening in cabinet all around the world. >> exactly . and in every other >> exactly. and in every other administration through history. yeah. so, yes, we're seeing we're seeing boris being a scapegoat for things which if we look at this in the way that the covid inquiry should be looking at, really go back to the sage organisation, which was grotesquely irresponsible and inaccurate and let us down all sorts of garden paths which were more responsible for deaths than

anything that boris or the government did . i think that the government did. i think that the inquiry is missing a very important point here, that the advice upon which the government relied was wrong , that it was relied was wrong, that it was misguided and in some cases i think it was politically misdirected. >> okay . thank you so much. >> okay. thank you so much. brilliant as always. political columnist at the sun, trevor kavanagh . and we're joined now kavanagh. and we're joined now in the studio by co—founder of oxford them molly kingsley. morning molly . wasn't for morning molly. if it wasn't for you, there no frame of you, there would be no frame of reference for children on this covid inquiry. just explain covid inquiry. just just explain to people, first of all, what that means. >> yeah, i mean, i think it's just of the many problems just one of the many problems that becoming apparent with that is becoming apparent with this inquiry. >> when original terms of >> so when the original terms of reference the inquiry were reference for the inquiry were announced year and announced almost a year and a half, two years ago now, they had mentioned education, but very , they did not very narrowly, they did not include the word children . so include the word children. so you idea that you have you have this idea that you have this know, 10 this cohort of, you know, 10 million little people that were going to be entirely excluded from the inquiry other than

through the impact on schooling, which, you know, is a big part of children's lives. but it's not the only thing that went wrong for children in the pandemic. could that have pandemic. how could that have even been a considered as an opfion even been a considered as an option ? opfion? >> not enough parents in the decision making process . decision making process. >> what was that down to? baroness who's chairing baroness hallett who's chairing the i can't work out the inquiry or i can't work out who thinking was who was thinking that was legitimate ? legiti m ate? >> legitimate? >> i think it's indicative of a really core failing throughout government governance processes . government governance processes. no one is thinking about vulnerable people and children and in fact , there was a really, and in fact, there was a really, really interesting statement from cummings yesterday on just that point that hasn't been picked up and actually, it's so interesting. i wrote it down. and what he said was that he was asked by kc , you asked directly by the kc, you know, was thinking about the know, who was thinking about the impact of lockdown, not of covid, but the impact of lockdown on the most vulnerable. yeah. answered and yeah. and cummings answered and this is a quote, just to be clear. >> so what what he meant by that was the lockdown impacts on abused wives, children in care, people locked at who who

people locked at home who who needed extra help. >> exactly. exactly. so on this he didn't actually mention children in the case, but he meant people were going children in the case, but he mtbet people were going children in the case, but he m(be mostpeople were going children in the case, but he m(be most impacted were going children in the case, but he m(be most impacted throughjoing to be most impacted through lockdown. cummings said lockdown. and what cummings said and thought this just speaks and i thought this just speaks to issues he said to so many of the issues he said all that that whole aspect was almost entirely appallingly neglected by the entire planning system. >> so nobody in that whole operation, number 10, has 140 odd people rattling around in their thought about, no, there wasn't a plan. >> he said that there wasn't even a plan to make a plan. and to your question about to answer your question about what happened with the kids, well, wasn't plan. no well, there wasn't a plan. no one thinking the kids. one was thinking about the kids. and, know, actually, we know and, you know, actually, we know it beyond one it goes much beyond that. no one was harms of was thinking about the harms of lockdown, mental health and the failure of the economic cost. >> i mean, it's just and we've got helen mcnamara that we're seeing here. so she the seeing here. so she is the british servant . british former civil servant. she served as deputy cabinet secretary the cabinet office secretary in the cabinet office when was going. when all of this was going. >> most woman in number 10. >> what do you want her to say, molly or maybe let me that

molly or maybe let me turn that differently. what you want molly or maybe let me turn that diffnto ntly. what you want molly or maybe let me turn that diffnto ber. what you want molly or maybe let me turn that diffnto be asked? you want molly or maybe let me turn that diffnto be asked? because iant molly or maybe let me turn that diffnto be asked? because the her to be asked? because the frustration is the frustration for me is the questions awful. questions are awful. >> yeah, the questions are not really cutting through. it really cutting through. and it was interesting was very interesting actually, when that when cummings said that yesterday, you know, which was a very big revelation, if we very big revelation, even if we all it hear and all suspected it to hear it and he wasn't questioned about it, the case, he moved the the case, he moved on. and the next question was about the impact of covid. you impact of long covid. and you just think there's this disconnect going on. >> but i to answer your >> yeah, but i to answer your question, i mean, i think she has to be asked about the governance process. >> decision making were >> is the decision making were costs balanced against benefits? and if not, why not? >> and i know that i've i've read some of the stuff that she said that the women in number 10 were shouty down by the were just shouty down by the men, presumably dominic cummings being one of them who says he's not a misogynist, despite we know her in a know what he called her in a tweet, which i would never call a woman. >> i mean, he said he called the men worse, didn't he? but i mean, really that's mean, it's still really that's okay. but interesting. >> i mean, women who've got a big this because big argument in this because women always in charge of women are always in charge of childcare aren't childcare or normally aren't

they? were drowned out by they? they were drowned out by they? they were drowned out by the and think that's you the men and i think that's you know, very beginning it the men and i think that's you know very beginning it the men and i think that's you know very very beginning it the men and i think that's you know very myopicy beginning it the men and i think that's you know very myopic responseng it the men and i think that's you know very myopic response .g it was a very myopic response. >> that in particular was is terrible for children and families . families. >> i mean, itjust was just one last point. the most chilling bit for me yesterday was where they both agreed cummings and hugo that what the hugo keith, that what the country needed was a test and trace and isolate system because then we would have all been, okay. what does he mean by that? >> yeah, mean, i think okay. what does he mean by that? >> is yeah, mean, i think okay. what does he mean by that? >> is the(eah, mean, i think okay. what does he mean by that? >> is the most mean, i think okay. what does he mean by that? >> is the most worrying think okay. what does he mean by that? >> is the most worrying thing this is the most worrying thing about have. about the inquiry they have. they have a preferred storyline and their preferred storyline is we should have more interventions. we should have locked harder. locked down sooner, harder. we should a big test and trace should have a big test and trace diagnostic system. now that may or may not be a valid line, but we should be questioning it. we should be challenging it and we know trust and trust. and trace was a £37 billion waste of money. why we more of money. why would we have more of it? but you know why? >> because out every crisis >> because out of every crisis of throughout of every government throughout history control of history comes more control of individual people . individual people. >> and it's follow my lead. >> and also it's follow my lead. if they did it somewhere else,

we'd better do the same. >> othennise they'll be criticising. >> i think you've hit the nail on there chronic on the head. there is a chronic and criminal lack and i think quite criminal lack of leadership where are of leadership here. where are the is the the leaders? where is the accountability? is none. the leaders? where is the acitnuntability? is none. the leaders? where is the acit hadibility? is none. the leaders? where is the acit had come’ is none. the leaders? where is the acit had come to is none. the leaders? where is the acit had come to us is none. the leaders? where is the acit had come to us first,)ne. the leaders? where is the acit had come to us first, ite. if it had come to us first, it maybe we might have done things differently because boris had stuck instincts and stuck to his instincts and i know he's been badly painted. i think unfair. think that's very unfair. i think that's very unfair. i think unfair. think it's very unfair. >> and they saw all the problems with the with the health service in point. in italy crisis point. >> were dying >> people were dying in corridors that's corridors and that's what panicked them. corridors and that's what panickenwe em. corridors and that's what panickenwe know that of >> and we know that a lot of that information coming through the you know, know it the media, you know, we know it was know some was exaggerated. we know in some cases images fake. cases the images were fake. i mean , it's incredible that we mean, it's incredible that we based a pandemic response on this propaganda , this on chinese propaganda, which would have ignored. >> molly , lovely to see you. >> molly, lovely to see you. thank so we will be thank you so much. we will be letting you know how that testimony mcnamara testimony from helen mcnamara goes at the inquiry this morning. >> yeah, we will. still to come, the and the queen there the charles and the queen there in kenya. to have in kenya. we're going to have the latest .

sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> very good morning. >> very good morning. >> it's 1025 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce. bev turner. i normally get that time check wrong. yeah, well get that time check wrong. yeah, welright. king charles is in >> right. king charles is in kenya state visit kenya for his first state visit to commonwealth as monarch. >> in a major speech last >> and in a major speech last night, acknowledged night, he acknowledged the painful and painful aspects of britain and kenya shared history. here's what say. what he had to say. >> also acknowledge the >> we must also acknowledge the most painful times of our long and complex relationship the

wrongdoings of the past are a cause of the greatest sorrow and the deepest regret . there were the deepest regret. there were abhorrent and unjustifiable acts of violence committed against kenyans and for that there can be no excuse . is it's a shame be no excuse. is it's a shame all this , you know, isn't it? all this, you know, isn't it? >> cameron walker's with us in the studio. royal correspondent. it's a shame, cameron, that he's having to spend all this time, every he anywhere. now every time he goes anywhere. now he apologise, but he didn't overtly apologise, but he didn't overtly apologise, but he be all sorry about he has to be all sorry about what britain's done in the past because to because he said they've got to engage it and they shouldn't. >> well, the problem is that the british government have >> well, the problem is that the briti some vernment have >> well, the problem is that the briti some vernmethat have >> well, the problem is that the britisomevernmethat ha and had some say in that speech and they thought it they would have thought it necessary to have some kind of nod the atrocities which nod to the atrocities which happened odd years ago, £20 happened 60 odd years ago, £20 million compensation, ten years ago. notice that he said ago. and notice that he said sorrow, not sorry . yeah. which sorrow, not sorry. yeah. which is two very, very different things from from my understanding , the british understanding, the british government's stance is that a

modern day administration is not liable for what a colonial government did 60 odd years ago . government did 60 odd years ago. so the king would never say i, a full apology, give a full apology unless the british government gave the go ahead. so that's what we saw here. as you said, £20 million was paid out by the british government to around elderly kenyans in around 5000 elderly kenyans in 2013. as far as the british 2013. and as far as the british government is concerned, a line has drawn under it. has been drawn under it. however, descendants has been drawn under it. hothose, descendants has been drawn under it. hothose who descendants has been drawn under it. hothose who were descendants has been drawn under it. hothose who were tortured ants has been drawn under it. hothose who were tortured and of those who were tortured and killed who demands the king delivers a full apology and the british government pay reparations. they are still banging on about stuff that was going on the reign of elizabeth. >> the first, for god's sake, she died 1601 or something. she died in 1601 or something. she mean, it's ridiculous. she i mean, it's ridiculous. where do you stop this? >> well, and they still >> well, and yet they still clearly lot of anger clearly feel a lot of anger towards the british government at the time, six years ago, which i think is a shame for buckingham palace and those perhaps slightly more sympathetic with the king because he all of that, of course, is overshadowing from

what he's doing today and he's met this amazing king guy a little bit earlier on. i don't know if we've got pictures of it or not, but he met a corporal samuel, who was 117 years old. >> that's not him. to be clear. >> that's not him. to be clear. >> that's not him. >> that's not him. >> he wouldn't be standing up. >> he wouldn't be standing up. >> yeah, not as well as that anyway. he's certainly not. >> try and get pictures if >> we'll try and get pictures if we can. but he's 117 year old thought oldest living thought to be the oldest living person in the world. but of course he can't be guaranteed that are all that because records are all over but fought in over the place. but he fought in world war ii. he's a world war ii fought in egypt ii veteran, fought in egypt and burma, medals burma, and he lost his medals because he had to hide them dunng because he had to hide them during the emergency of the 19505. during the emergency of the 1950s. 60s uprising. mau mau uprising. if he was caught with medals presented to him from britain. there's a possibility he would have been attacked for that. so he lost his medals. then and the king represented him with his medal. this morning. >> story and i've seen photographs of him. cameron he looks extraordinary. >> he does. he's in a wheelchair. but i don't know many 117 year olds who wouldn't

suit. yeah, in a suit. he clearly was very proud to be there at a commonwealth war. graves nairobi .and i think graves in nairobi. and i think the king as well. of course, his medals, which his grandfather, george v sixth would have originally handed out. >> can we about the >> can can we talk about the ancient tradition of making royals embarrassing royals dance in embarrassing situations? cameron let's be honest. >> miller is not a brilliant dancen >> miller is not a brilliant dancer, and there she was. if we got of camilla being got this clip of camilla being forced, it is awkward , isn't it? forced, it is awkward, isn't it? can can with some people dressed in traditional. can can with some people dressed in traditional . she looked very in traditional. she looked very uncomfortable. i'm sure she was always uncomfortable . always uncomfortable. >> they let them do it. >> they let them do it. >> well, it's a good photo op, isn't it them on the isn't it? it gets them on the front pages as we're talking about think it about it now. but i think it shows that queen a good shows that the queen is a good sport, doesn't it? was also sport, doesn't it? she was also presented think we ever presented with, i think we ever saw majesty the queen saw her majesty the queen get dragged these . dragged into these. >> she didn't, actually. she >> no, she didn't, actually. she never having. we've the never having. we've got the pictures of the 117 year old. remind us what his name is. >> cameron. >> cameron. >> corporal samuel. right. so. well, this is this is the king laying a wreath at the tomb of

the unknown soldier, i believe. no, sorry. at the commonwealth war. graves so this is just before he is presented. he presents the medal to corporal samuel . it is presents the medal to corporal samuel. it is at presents the medal to corporal samuel . it is at the presents the medal to corporal samuel. it is at the same presents the medal to corporal samuel . it is at the same event, samuel. it is at the same event, but i think it's probably 20 minutes or so before we will try and get you the footage. >> we will. we'll have our panel in a little while and in here in a little while and we'll discuss them as well. >> but the queen would never would dance. would never do the dance. i don't think you'd get prince philip doing much dancing either. philip doing much dancing eitibut in the age social >> but in the age of social media, make sure media, you need to make sure that going go on that it's going to go viral on social media the young social media for the young people to engage with the monarchy whole. monarchy on the whole. >> a successful trip this >> then a successful trip this cameron all >> then a successful trip this ca this in all >> then a successful trip this cathis kind all >> then a successful trip this cathis kind tugging all >> then a successful trip this cathis kind tugging of all of this kind of tugging of forelocks the past and forelocks about the past and what did? what we did? >> yeah, well, i think so, because have to remember because you have to remember back to prince william and catherine's the catherine's tour in 2020 to the commonwealth jamaica. not commonwealth tour, jamaica. not great greeting kids great pictures greeting kids through fences and on the through wired fences and on the back of a jeep, an open top land rover , echoes of colonialism. rover, echoes of colonialism. there but i think it's less overshadowed this particular tour. yes, we are talking about the fact the king didn't offer a

full apology, but we are still talking about all the engagements they are doing out there such as and we should remind people he is head of the commonwealth, which is more than 50 countries. >> m ajority are >> the majority of which are black, of black black, many of them black african are proud and african. and they are proud and to be. oh, there we go. >> that's our little friend is 170 years old. so that's not captain samuel. >> one him is >> but the one behind him is captain samuel. yes. >> there's four different i'm going you it eventually. going to show you it eventually. yeah, i promise you. >> but that's the gentleman receiving he is. >> all world two veterans >> all world war two veterans who received the time get who received by the time we get you image, be 180. you the image, he'll be 180. yes, he will be. >> and will we. >> and so will we. >> and so will we. >> so will we. right >> and so will we. right >> and so will we. right >> then you'll still >> right. and then you'll still look 60. >> right? still to come, slowly stopping boats. stopping the boats. >> arrivals of >> small boats. arrivals of migrants down by a third migrants are down by a third compared the home compared to last year. the home office good progress is office call it good progress is rishi sunak finally getting a grip problem and a—wa grip of the problem and a—wa might be the new word. >> i might be the new word of the year. but gb news very own >> i might be the new word of the yefarage gb news very own >> i might be the new word of the yefarage has news very own >> i might be the new word of the yefarage has also; very own >> i might be the new word of the yefarage has also hady own >> i might be the new word of the yefarage has also had an nn nigel farage has also had an impact getting the word which has gone into the oxford

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from three on . gb news it. from three on. gb news it. >> it's 1038 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. >> bev turner so american bully xls will be added to the list of banned dogs in england and wales. >> hurrah! from the 1st of february. illegal to own one

without an exemption. so joining us now former conservative mp us now is former conservative mp neil parish. us now is former conservative mp nei good sh. us now is former conservative mp nei good morning, neil. it will >> good morning, neil. it will be illegal to own one without an exemption. what does that mean? what kind of exemption could you have to own one? have to continue to own one? do you think? i think the exemption probably will be down to the temperament of the dog . temperament of the dog. >> they'll have to be neutered and they'll have to muzzled and they'll have to be muzzled when out. so i think when they go out. so i think there's sort safety there's some sort of safety there. it's interesting there. i think it's interesting that banning the breed, because i think it's right to ban the breed. but of course, it's a cross breed. you see, it's a it's an american pit bull and an american staffordshire terrier actually crossed the kennel club. don't actually recognise it as a breed in this country. so i think it'll take some administrating because i think, you know, i'm a great believer when it's necessary to ban a breed, ban it, but it'll be about the enforcement . it'll be about the enforcement. it'll be about the enforcement. it'll be about will the police have the expertise to be able to know what what the what the xl bully is ? and it's interesting, if you is? and it's interesting, if you look into the breed because it's

actually bred for loyalty and actually bred for loyalty and actually is considered to be reasonably well tempered . and of reasonably well tempered. and of course, a lot of these problems are the people that actually have them , may well have them as have them, may well have them as status dogs to protect themselves, perhaps for illegal activities and so i think this is we've got to be also concentrating on those that have the dogs, not just the dogs. >> i hear that now, but see people who often say this, this ban is going too far. it's all about the owners. it's not about the dogs. these dogs should never have been around. they just! never have been around. they just i mean, look at them. they're like tanks and they're built like tanks and they've killed think, one they've killed i think, in one month. this year they a month. this year they killed a dog are responsible dog a day. they are responsible for possibly 12 fatalities already . human fatalities. the already. human fatalities. the dogs just shouldn't we just don't want them ? don't want them? >> no, no, i understand that. and i think it's right to ban them. but as i said to you, it's them. but as i said to you, it's the key to making this work is not we do we do a lot of legislation in parliament and we

have in the past and i used to chair the select committee on environment, food and rural affairs, where we've looked into this is all in the end this, and it is all in the end about enforcing it as well as bringing in the law. so as we bnng bringing in the law. so as we bring this law in, we have to find the dogs and we have to make sure they're not bred. and of course, the trouble with a bred is they will start to bred dog is they will start to wreak with other breeds. so we have to be active the time have to be active all the time to try and take aggressive to try and take these aggressive breeds out. but i will repeat that it's not just the dog . it that it's not just the dog. it is very often the owner . is very often the owner. >> what neil will happen to for dogs and owners who have them. now, what do they have to do before the end of the year? i mean, we literally see dogs being put down now . being put down now. >> i think no, they don't have to be put down, but they do have to be put down, but they do have to be put down, but they do have to be neutered and they do have to be neutered and they do have to be neutered and they do have to be muzzled when they go out. and course, if there is if and of course, if there is if they do show any aggression, they do show any aggression, they be down. so it's a they will be put down. so it's a combination things . i combination of those things. i mean, it's an mean, i think it's an interesting one where i've been

to battersea dogs home, seen staffordshire bull terriers that are, you know, actually very good tempered. and you know, you do actually feel then it is a shame to put down a good tempered dog. the problem you've got, as you rightly say, is that these dogs are so powerful when they are vicious, they will do real damage. and i think having such big, powerful dogs is not wise. and i think it's right for the ban. but like i keep repeating, we've got to properly enforce it. we have to keen in parliament bringing in laws and we've got to enforce them properly and make sure there's enough people out there to enforce it. >> neil, just finally, you mentioned parliament. parliament gets a of criticism because gets a lot of criticism because legislation badly legislation is often badly drafted and they take too long to do things they've pulled their one and their finger out on this one and got done pretty quickly. got it done pretty quickly. >> parliament when it >> yeah. parliament when it needs to. i mean, i had sort of i had 12 years in parliament. it's amazing how quickly you can and of course what you do with something is you you something like this is you you

tag on to another bill and tag it on to another bill and you bring it in as an amendment and that's how you bring it in fast. and i think it's necessary . and like i said, what i do hopeis . and like i said, what i do hope is the government and local authorities do have the necessary manpower and expertise to be able to enforce it because. right. to bring in the law, but even more so , it must law, but even more so, it must be enforced because that's what i found through the experience of inquiries is a lot of these laws are in place . they're not laws are in place. they're not properly enforced. okay brilliant. >> thank you, neil. neil parish there. we're joined in the studio now by former labour adviser writer scarlett adviser and writer scarlett mccgwire of mccgwire and former editor of the star, dawn neesom the daily star, dawn neesom scarlett, it's interesting, isn't it, when you're hearing that of course, it's that because of course, it's lovely legislation lovely that this legislation has been the been pushed through. i think the majority would agree majority of people would agree this sense move, but this is a common sense move, but what amount of police resources are going to be spent on this? i was just thinking, as he i mean, i thought it was a really good interview and he absolutely explained it really well. >> is have they talked have they

actually consulted terrible actually consulted a terrible word? but have they worked out how it's going to happen? because clearly, these dogs are incredibly dangerous and we don't know how many of the fatalities . and there are lots fatalities. and there are lots and lots of people have just been attacked , really, really been attacked, really, really viciously attacked by these dogs. and we don't know how much it is about the breeding. but but but you know who is going to say that dog should be muzzled? and they're quite i wouldn't know what an xl bully was. and i mean, know what a staffy is mean, i know what a staffy is because i know one in particular that badly behaved and that is very badly behaved and frankly never allowed frankly is never allowed out without how bad i mean, without a lead. how bad i mean, the these big dogs the problem with these big dogs is, is they are really dangerous . and there's no point in having another wretched law for and if you remember, if you remember the dangerous dogs act, which the dangerous dogs act, which the major government brought in, supposed be the worst piece supposed to be the worst piece of legislation , it didn't work, of legislation, it didn't work, did it? >> yeah , they made a complete >> yeah, they made a complete horlicks. >> doesn't all. and >> it doesn't work at all. and this going because

this isn't going to work because you're relying now on police officers on the street to genetically identify ii and xl pitbull is and you can't do it. it's not actually possible. this is going to get clogged up in the courts with people saying prove my dog is this breed because it's not actually a recognised breed. maybe it's going it's going to punish going to it's going to punish the responsible owners rather than the criminals. and these are the ones that they're going to ignore this. they're not taking any notice. i mean, scarlett nailed straight scarlett just nailed it straight away. not going away. it's like it's not going to work. >> and if you're if you're a police officer on your and police officer on your own and there's bloke with one of there's a bloke with one of those one of those snarling and are going push those one of those snarling and are luck going push those one of those snarling and are luck as going push those one of those snarling and are luck as agoing push those one of those snarling and are luck as a police push those one of those snarling and are luck as a police officer? your luck as a police officer? >> because be very worried >> because you'd be very worried about it. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> also, you it's just >> and also, you know, it's just to what extent i saw a guy walking down the street with one of these off a lead not long ago, and it was almost ago, and he was it was almost like was carrying gun . the like he was carrying a gun. the body the trousers all body language, the trousers all the way down so you could see his underpants, you know, the type. and was just watching type. and i was just watching and i thought, is really and i thought, that is really scary, massive

scary, that this dog was massive with these massive shoulders and it was quite obviously a weapon . it was quite obviously a weapon. yes. you know, maybe this should all i mean, like we said, any that are they have be on a that are they have to be on a lead. have to muzzled lead. they have to be muzzled and perhaps bring in dog and perhaps do we bring in dog licences are getting to licences dawn, are we getting to the people should the point where people should have have a dog? have a licence to have a dog? >> like, you know, the >> it's like, you know, the response owners and lots response of dog owners and lots of people that own these response of dog owners and lots of pe(by! that own these response of dog owners and lots of pe(by thert own these response of dog owners and lots of pe(by the way, own these response of dog owners and lots of pe(by the way, are| these response of dog owners and lots of pe(by the way, are dog se dogs. by the way, are dog whisperers they call themselves. they're dog psychologist and they rescue dogs and they get them as rescue dogs and they've these they get them as rescue dogs and they" as these they get them as rescue dogs and they"as well. these they get them as rescue dogs and they"as well. so these they get them as rescue dogs and they"as well. so it's these they get them as rescue dogs and they"as well. so it's not these they get them as rescue dogs and they"as well. so it's not just;e dogs as well. so it's not just the owners, but they're responsible owners. and they're trying make the trying to do, you know, make the animals but it's the animals safe. but it's the irresponsible ones. it's the chap you referred to. you chap you just referred to. you know, carry know, it's illegal to carry a gun, illegal to carry a knife, but not illegal to walk but it's not illegal to walk a dog that looks like this down the street. >> here's other point. the street. >> these ere's other point. the street. >>these ere's havether point. the street. >> these ere's have tor point. the street. >> these ere's have to be oint. the street. >>these ere's have to be kept on so these dogs have to be kept on a lead. of those flipping a lead. if one of those flipping dogs to go flying the dogs wants to go flying down the street, going to street, well, how who's going to be able to hang on to that lead unless charles atlas? unless they're charles atlas? >> saying that >> so one is saying that once the is bringing the government is bringing in legislation say legislation so that they can say that they've something , but that they've done something, but actually but maybe it

actually nothing's but maybe it will make people twice will make people think twice about getting one and it will make them maybe socially unacceptable. people who unacceptable. people people who don't really want but but don't really want one, but but not like bev was not the people like bev was talking about. the one once really macho, younger to frighten you . that's what frighten you. that's what they're going to want them even more. yeah, right. >> talking of police officers, what these cops ripping what about these cops ripping down posters of israeli children ? dawn, this is in manchester. do you think they were right to take these pictures down from the front of this chemist? >> course they're not. i >> of course they're not. i mean, background to this, we mean, the background to this, we think we're not 100% sure, but it be the chemist it appears to be the chemist appears muslim appears to be owned by muslim owners . and so somebody may have owners. and so somebody may have been putting them up for a political reason. but, no, it is not right for the police to remove them . it's profoundly remove them. it's profoundly offensive. these are wanted posters for missing posters for children, a children and babies who are missing. so they should not have . it's wrong and it's not have. it's wrong and it's upsetting . upsetting. >> there's no division, is there, john, between people who want get these kids back? want to get these kids back? >> course but the

>> no, of course not. but the thing using that word thing is, using that word division is incredibly divisive. again i've was telling again and i've got i was telling scarlett we in here, scarlett before we came in here, two a muslim two friends. one's a muslim journalist, a journalist, the other one is a jewish journalist. they're jewish journalist. and they're not religious , but not particularly religious, but it's very obvious they are of their they now their faiths and they are now terrified and they are both scared. it's not just anti—semitism scared. it's notjust anti—semitism here, it's islamophobia that's on the rise. and it seems to be affecting women more. i mean , they are women more. i mean, they are scared literally out and scared to literally go out and do the moment. do their jobs at the moment. >> shocking . >> that's really shocking. >> that's really shocking. >> yeah, well, we that that >> yeah, well, we know that that i you particularly i mean, as you say, particularly women, women feel women, that jewish women feel frightened about leaving their homes as do muslim women, particularly if they're wearing the hijab. what's so terrible about this is , as you say, these about this is, as you say, these are children who are missing. and it's been politicised and it's been politicised . so that i it's been politicised. so that i mean, you know, michelle dewberry said that when she started talking about how sad she felt about the children in gaza, got massive gaza, she got this massive hate thing saying, you're in favour of hamas and actually, you know, there are children in children who've been killed on both

sides. yeah, yeah. and also both sides. yeah, yeah. and also both sides are saying, you know, oh, no, you're lying about this. you're lying about this. i mean, what's what's happened is absolutely terrible . and the absolutely terrible. and the people who one has so much respect for are the parent who've lost their children and who've lost their children and who've got together muslim, muslim , you know, i mean, arab muslim, you know, i mean, arab and israeli and said this has got to stop. this isn't this isn't getting us anywhere or all this hatred just means more children. >> the children are always innocent . they're kids. well, of innocent. they're kids. well, of course they're kids. they're just and they are innocent pawns in this conflict . in this conflict. >> yeah, absolutely. yeah, absolutely. >> but the worst part is that hamas will use these children as tools. yeah and they do. >> and they do the population of the gaza strip is incredibly young. >> i think over 50% of them are under 18. so they are going to be the ones that are suffering and know, look, of course , and know, look, of course, nobody's voted for hamas since 2006. >> exactly. it's a dictator . >> exactly. it's a dictator. >> exactly. it's a dictator. >> yes. look, as soon as hamas did atrocious .

did that, absolutely atrocious. me. i mean, i remember saying i could write the script. yeah he's going to come. they're going to kill lots of passengers. that's what hamas knew. >> that's what they wanted. >> that's what they wanted. >> acts of provocation . right. >> acts of provocation. right. let's at things a bit let's look at things a bit closer home. the number of closer to home. the number of migrants the channel migrants crossing the channel has by a compared has fallen by a third, compared to last year. >> dawn oh, yeah , marvellous. >> dawn oh, yeah, marvellous. government great job, >> dawn oh, yeah, marvellous. goverrthey? great job, >> dawn oh, yeah, marvellous. goverrthey? i great job, >> dawn oh, yeah, marvellous. goverrthey? i think great job, >> dawn oh, yeah, marvellous. goverrthey? i think gr(called aren't they? i think it's called autumn . yeah. yeah. sorry. autumn. yeah. yeah. sorry. that's the end of my discussion. the number of migrants crossing the channel has fallen because the channel has fallen because the got worse. the weather's got worse. >> stop. there's not. >> full stop. there's not. >> full stop. there's not. >> not much wind. >> full stop. there's not. >> no, not much wind. >> full stop. there's not. >> no, no. not much wind. >> full stop. there's not. >> no, no. nothejch wind. >> full stop. there's not. >> no, no. nothe studio.:i. >> no, no. in the studio. >> no, no. in the studio. >> yeah. there's lot hot >> yeah. there's a lot of hot air the studio. air in the studio. >> home office even >> are the home office even giving any reason to claim giving us any reason to claim credit for this? >> scarlett? >> scarlett? >> just saying sea >> they're just saying sea numbers down. be numbers have gone down. must be good progress. >> a office >> if we had a home office minister, cooperate minister, they'll say cooperate is better the is working better with the french. more french. we're giving french more money. checks are money. security checks are better. the deterrent effect of rwanda , if it ever happens, is rwanda, if it ever happens, is putting people off the bibby stockholm there is. there is some evidence. by the way, scarlett, that some migrants are now to ireland now choosing to go to ireland rather than because they

rather than england because they do rwanda thing. there do fear the rwanda thing. there is anecdotal of is some anecdotal evidence of that. is some anecdotal evidence of tha right. but not enough. >> they'll get in because want >> they'll get in because i want rwanda start tomorrow, right? rwanda to start tomorrow, right? >> i think rwanda doesn't >> well, i think rwanda doesn't deal and is just deal with anything and is just appalling. that's the appalling. but that's the difference us. i mean, difference between us. i mean, i agree with george. >> there are several scarlett differences between the two of you. to be fair. >> yeah. almost everything except bully dogs. >> everything. >> everything. >> i think agree >> everything. >> bully i think agree >> everything. >> bully dogs. i think agree on bully dogs. >> then the ministers are saying that think it's the threat that they think it's the threat of the rwanda asylum deal is putting off. putting people off. >> not sure i could >> i'm not sure i could subscribe to that. and that the returns agreement with albania has an impact that has has had an impact that has definitely worked . yeah. and in definitely worked. yeah. and in october of this year. sorry, sorry . let me just find the sorry. let me just find the facts because it's quite interesting. october last year saw 6900 migrants reach british shores. but this october was only 1700. that does sound like a significant drop . a significant drop. >> let's do what we should do is check what the weather patterns were . were. >> which, which, which one was

the windiest month. >> i think we can probably work it out. >> i know you. >> i know you. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> that's all it is. and actually, i spend quite a lot of time in brighton at the weekends and. >> and i've noticed how the sea people are swimming in the people are not swimming in the sea much this autumn because . sea so much this autumn because. cause so windy . cause it's been so windy. >> yeah. is that right? >> yeah. is that right? >> choppy and i know how often i've in because i think i'm i've gone in because i think i'm not going in that admire you not going in that i'm admire you for in at all. for going in at all. >> i think the albanian >> but i think the albanian thing is really interesting because that if because what it shows is that if they could get the processes up like used to do and like they used to do and actually process people within a few weeks, yeah . so a an awful few weeks, yeah. so a an awful lot of people would go, but an awful lot of people wouldn't come because they'd realise like the albanians, no point because you just get so and they're losing £4,000 each in the process. >> they're paying these terrible, terrible all potential criminals . criminals. >> and obviously we've got the supreme court is still waiting. we're still waiting to see whether the rwanda deal will be abandoned or whether they'll be

able to carry that through dawn. will it make any difference? i think if they can get that pushed through and we can get those planes off the ground, that has got to be a deterrent . yeah. >> you hope so. you do hope so. >> you hope so. you do hope so. >> they're going to try it, haven't they? >> yeah. we've got to do something . yeah. the problem something. yeah. the problem i've got with everything that suggested at the moment from army barges to rwanda army bases to barges to rwanda to bung in the french, god knows how many million . we're too how many million. we're too many. exactly it's like none of them are working for a start. and there is always someone saying, no, oh god, that saying, no, oh my god, that makes racist makes you a horrible, racist country. do this country. other countries do this and get away with it. germany use bases. that's fine. use army bases. that's fine. >> yeah. >> w >> yeah. >> it make us so bad >> why does it make us so bad when we try to suggest something like ? like that? >> understand the >> i don't understand the problem those things. problem with all those things. so. so if you go to down weymouth, portland, the weymouth, to portland, where the bibby it has bibby stockholm is, it has united the place because either they think it's terrible that they think it's terrible that the migrants are on there or they think we don't want them

anyway . well, it's also what are anyway. well, it's also what are they doing having three meals a day when we don't get. i know. and the army bases , the people and the army bases, the people around it . i and the army bases, the people around it. i mean that's got a move on. >> jim cinema. yeah. no, don't worry , cinema. worry, cinema. >> you're here to talk. scarlett so that's marvellous, right? scarlett dawn will be back scarlett and dawn will be back with a little later. with us a little bit later. >> they always taught, and in the moments, gb news the next few moments, gb news northwest reaper the next few moments, gb news n(going st reaper the next few moments, gb news n(going to reaper the next few moments, gb news n(going to bring reaper the next few moments, gb news n(going to bring a reaper the next few moments, gb news n(going to bring a reporteaper the next few moments, gb news n(going to bring a report onzr is going to bring us a report on the 20 year anniversary of 14 year old charlene downs's disappearance year old charlene downs's disappwyou nce year old charlene downs's disappwyou remember that? where >> do you remember that? where gb news channel. gb news britain's news channel. >> there . it's aidan mcgivern >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here office with here from the met office with the a day of the gb news forecast. a day of blustery showers for many of us before increasingly wet before it turns increasingly wet and windy as storm kieran arrives overnight . right now at arrives overnight. right now at first, the more persistent wet weather is affecting central and northern parts of scotland . that northern parts of scotland. that is edging northwards , followed is edging northwards, followed by heavy downpours into northern ireland's central and southern scotland and also scattered showers and sunny spells further south. the best of any drier weather will be towards the south—east, although it's going to blustery for many of us

to be blustery for many of us andits to be blustery for many of us and it's going feel on the and it's going to feel on the cool now, overnight, we're cool side. now, overnight, we're going the approach of going to see the approach of this of pressure named this area of low pressure named storm because risk this area of low pressure named stndisruptive because risk this area of low pressure named stndisruptive and ause risk this area of low pressure named stndisruptive and in;e risk this area of low pressure named stndisruptive and in some risk this area of low pressure named stndisruptive and in some places of disruptive and in some places damaging winds around southern coastal areas in particular. initially it's the wet weather that could cause problems overnight that sweeps into the south of the uk and then the winds strengthen in southwest england, most at risk of the strongest winds during the early hours of thursday . in places, hours of thursday. in places, gusts of 80 or 85 miles an hour. but they will mostly be affecting the coasts. and then that swathe of strong winds through the day on thursday moves along the coastline to effect. by the afternoon. the south—east of england with again coastal areas most at risk of some very strong winds. 70, 80 miles an hour inland, more like 50 or 60 miles an hour and much lighter winds further north, although it will be a blustery day with heavy rain in places by

by it's 11 am. on november the 1st. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> thank you for joining bev turner. >> thank you forjoining this >> thank you for joining us this morning. so down disappearance 20 today, a 14 year 20 years ago today, a 14 year old charlene downes went missing in lancashire seaside town, in her lancashire seaside town, home of blackpool and our north—west of england. reporter sophie reaper is going to bring us latest gypsy travellers us the latest gypsy travellers following the increase in drunk and disorderly behaviour on

flights. >> some people are arguing selling booze on planes should be banned. well, not me and bev. >> no way. and station locked down a pro—palestine ceasefire rally took place in london, liverpool street station yesterday evening. look at that. more than 500 people joined the sit protest . more than 500 people joined the sit protest. let's more than 500 people joined the sit protest . let's take sit in protest. let's take a listen to what passengers were greeted with by my side . greeted with by my side. >> lovely guy . incredible ticket >> lovely guy. incredible ticket office u—turn at last. >> the government has cancelled those mad rail industry plans for the mass closure of ticket offices in england . a great offices in england. a great success, we think . success, we think. >> and well done you at home for getting involved in that campaign to keep ticket offices open. it was the biggest response to a public inquiry ever. >> even >> really important and we want to tell you, breaking news, a

third mcdonald's in birmingham has protesters has been targeted by protesters who've unleashed hundreds or dozens, at least, of mice, which they died and died as part of their protest about israel defending itself with hamas. >> yeah, we're going to try and get you that footage. it's really disturbing, actually. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email, as always. first, though , here's as always. first, though, here's rhiannon jones with the latest . news >> jeff thank you. good morning. it's 11:01. your top stories it's11:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom scene here. politicians and technology bosses are at the world's first summit on the safety of artificial intelligence science at bletchley park . us vice at bletchley park. us vice president kamala harris , elon president kamala harris, elon musk and companies including google meta and microsoft are assessing the risks of ai, the prime minister hopes to put the uk at the centre of global efforts to monitor the technology, as well as attracting business investment. the government's pledged £38

million towards ai projects around the world, which aim to boost safe and responsible programming . the rafah crossing programming. the rafah crossing from gaza has opened to allow foreign nationals and some injured civilians into egypt, the first group has now crossed the border and the wounded are receiving treatment at a nearby field hospital. up to 500 foreign passport holders are also expected to cross into egypt. james cleverly says uk teams are ready to assist british nationals as soon as they can leave. aid trucks have also crossed into gaza with the foreign secretary warning it's vital to easing the humanitarian crisis there. it's not clear how long the crossing will remain open. long the crossing will remain open . well, it comes as the open. well, it comes as the israeli military says nine of its soldiers have been killed dunng its soldiers have been killed during its ground offensive into gaza. it's . explosions have been

gaza. it's. explosions have been heard this morning as israel's bombardment continues . the bombardment continues. the israel defence forces says it's hit 11,000 hamas targets. so far. the idf also claims an airstrike yesterday killed a senior hamas commander it says was a ringleader of the attack on the 7th of october. the palestinian officials say 50 gazans were killed and another 150 injured in that. gazans were killed and another 150 injured in that . strike 150 injured in that. strike campaigners back here in london have projected the words ceasefire. now on to the houses of parliament and the colours of the palestinian flag. it was organised by save the children and other charities that say rishi sunak must put lives above politics and back calls for a ceasefire. they're handing a petition with over 300,000 signatures over to the government . in other news, government. in other news, a former top civil servant is answering questions at the covid

inquiry . helen mcnamara was inquiry. helen mcnamara was deputy cabinet secretary in 2020 and 2021 and played a key role in britain's covid response. she told the inquiry a short time ago that boris johnson displayed ago that boris johnson displayed a breezy confidence regarding the pandemic , which she found the pandemic, which she found jarring . she also criticised her jarring. she also criticised her former colleagues at the cabinet office, saying it had been very difficult to obtain basic details ahead of her appearance at the inquiry. house prices increased by nought point 9% in october, which experts say reflects the limited supply of properties on the market. nationwide's market index showed an increase on last month's figures, though average prices across the uk are down 3.3% compared to last year . the compared to last year. the building society says market activity remains weak, with the number of mortgages approved in september down 30. dodi doctors are urging people to get their covid and flu jabs after it was

revealed millions of those who are eligible haven't yet taken up the offer. cases of flu and covid are expected to rise significantly during the colder months. a new campaign called get winter strong aims to encourage people to get the jab even if they don't typically come fonnard . doctors say it's come fonnard. doctors say it's one of the most important things any of us can do to protect ourselves from serious illness . ourselves from serious illness. hundreds of schools in scotland are closed today as support staff walk out in a dispute over pay- staff walk out in a dispute over pay. janitors, cleaners and pupil support assistants are among those striking . it's part among those striking. it's part of rolling action by unison members after they rejected an earlier pay offer. more walkouts are expected next week . amber are expected next week. amber weather warnings are in place for the south coast of england and parts of pembrokeshire in wales as storm karen approaches the uk. the met office says wind and rain could bring potential risk to life and property. parts

of northern ireland have already been flooded due to heavy rainfall and people have been warned not to travel. it comes less than two weeks after storm babet caused widespread damage across the uk . and the king and across the uk. and the king and queen are in kenya on day two of their state visit . their their state visit. their majesties are celebrating animal welfare and environmental conservation with a tour of an elephant orphanage on the queen's agenda. the king will also visit an urban forest to highlight the importance of green spaces in cities . this is green spaces in cities. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back over to andrew and bev . to andrew and bev. >> you just saw that clip again of the queen queen camilla. >> it's torture to watch. >> it's torture to watch. >> it's torture to watch. >> it is torture to watch it.

>> it is torture to watch it. >> it's torture. can you imagine being dragged sober and having to dance in front of the world with people that you've never met who were really, met who were actually really, really dancing ? really good at dancing? >> but we're now managed to share a donkey dog share with a donkey and a dog not dancing at all. >> get right. she >> we'll get it right. there she is, . >> we'll get it right. there she is, look . face. absolute >> look at her face. absolute mask of horror . mask of horror. >> it's like she's just thinking, why did i. >> why did i say yes when he proposed to me ? proposed to me? >> why did the queen say she will be known as queen consort? i that is just it's i mean, that is just it's mortifying, it? mortifying, isn't it? >> well done. well done . queen >> well done. well done. queen camilla just, you know , keep camilla just, you know, keep putting one foot in front of the other in bad timing country and commonwealth. >> we're proud of it. >> we're proud of it. >> have you been >> right. what have you been saying we're talking saying at home? we're talking about these protests at liverpool last liverpool street station last night in relation to the middle east conflict. i'm appalled by the scenes the terrifying scenes last night. intimidated, says night. very intimidated, says jules. angela said , i noticed jules. angela said, i noticed none of the protesters were wearing a poppy no and says , i wearing a poppy no and says, i don't know why everyone's so angry. people should be allowed to protest. it's important that angry. people should be allowed to |stand:. it's important that angry. people should be allowed to |stand up's important that angry. people should be allowed to |stand up fornportant that

angry. people should be allowed to |stand up fornpo palestinian people. >> hang on. what they were saying. >> sarah vine made that point was free palestine. this isn't about palestine. about freeing palestine. this is about hamas, a terror group waging and israel waging war on israel and israel striking hamas want to wipe striking back hamas want to wipe israel off the face of the earth. it's not about free palestine at all. >> a peaceful rally would be israel , jews and arabs, jews and israel, jews and arabs, jews and muslims coming together and calling for a ceasefire. we would all be on board with that. yeah, this is you know, but this is just division. division division. and it's just feels like the volume is turning up on it the whole time. and barry says these are just says these protesters are just mindless sheep. we're talking about the xl bully dogs ban as well. and elizabeth says any death by any animal against a human is absolute wrong. it might sound bad, but how many of these dogs were off lead? how many were considerate owners? these dogs were off lead? how many were to nsiderate owners? these dogs were off lead? how many were to comeate owners? these dogs were off lead? how many were to come andywners? these dogs were off lead? how many were to come and tell rs? these dogs were off lead? how many were to come and tell my who wants to come and tell my daughter she has daughter that the pet she has that walked three times that he's walked three times a day, off lead. when day, never off the lead. when playing on field away playing on a field away from others on lead, might others is still on a lead, might be people like be put down as people like yourself stating, them be put down as people like yot down. stating, them all down. >> but dogs aren't going to

>> but the dogs aren't going to be no that was why be put down. no that was why i asked that question. >> got be registered >> they've got to be registered properly. yeah. and if they behave badly and threaten other people, put people, then they will be put down. but they're not going to be put down. that's not what the law says. that's not the law. change says absolutely. >> the >> and we've been discussing the covid been looking >> and we've been discussing the cc helen been looking >> and we've been discussing the cc helen mcnamara,5en looking >> and we've been discussing the cc helen mcnamara, theiryoking >> and we've been discussing the cc helen mcnamara, their former >> and we've been discussing the cc hnservantnamara, their former >> and we've been discussing the cc hnservant , amara, their former >> and we've been discussing the cc hnservant , when , their former >> and we've been discussing the cc hnservant , when sheeir former >> and we've been discussing the cc hnservant , when she was rmer civil servant, when she was cabinet secretary. didn't cabinet secretary. and i didn't realise she was quite a significant character that significant character in that drama. drama on drama. the partygate drama on channel if you've watched channel 4, if you've watched that was female star. that was the female star. >> was the woman who got the >> she was the woman who got the karaoke machine in. >> are watching that. >> anyway, we are watching that. we're bringing in we're not bringing you that in full because we might full detail because we might lose the room, but somebody is watching let you watching it and we will let you know in that know what happens in that inquiry she inquiry today, because she was certainly figure. john inquiry today, because she was certaii'd figure. john inquiry today, because she was certaii'd like figure. john inquiry today, because she was certaii'd like to figure. john inquiry today, because she was certaii'd like to know john inquiry today, because she was certaii'd like to know wh0| inquiry today, because she was certaii'd like to know who are says, i'd like to know who are the people sitting in the ranks of people sitting in front of laptops. why are they there? are doing? are there? what are they doing? are they how much they necessary? and how much they necessary? and how much they the public they cost in the public purse? 40 million million 40 million points, 40 million lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, . lawyers, wall to wall lawyers, because they do very because they tend to do very well situation. because they tend to do very welthey situation. because they tend to do very welthey always situation. because they tend to do very welthey always do. :uation. because they tend to do very welthey always do. now,n. years >> they always do. now, 20 years ago today, year old charlene ago today, 14 year old charlene downes went missing in her lancashire seaside town of blackpool. there's no

blackpool. police say there's no evidence to suggest she's still alive . and her body has never alive. and her body has never been found. >> however, after an investigation spanning almost two decades, lancashire constabulary are today launching a information a fresh appeal for information on of england. on north west of england. >> reaper has >> reporter sophie reaper has this daughter's been this report. my daughter's been missing since saturday night. >> i thought she'd have been back by now, she hasn't back by now, but she hasn't returned cctv footage shows returned this cctv footage shows charlene downes on what's believed to be the last day of her life on the 1st of november 2003, the 14 year old girl disappeared without a trace . disappeared without a trace. >> she'd spent the evening in blackpool , the seaside town blackpool, the seaside town where she lived. shortly after 6 pm, her mother saw charlene p.m, her mother saw charlene with her sister , rebecca. they with her sister, rebecca. they spoke briefly, not knowing this would be the last conversation they would ever have. i said , they would ever have. i said, don't you be late home. >> she said, i won't. i'll be in before ten. said, okay, all before ten. i said, okay, all right. make sure you are next thing i know. and they walk down

in the direction the winter in the direction of the winter gardens. was last gardens. and that was the last time ever her. i never saw time i ever saw her. i never saw her that. her after that. >> there, charlene visited >> from there, charlene visited various including the various places, including the carousel bar on blackpool's pier. it's believed that the 14 year old was murdered just hours later. >> all these live in hope. hope is all we have left . but i'm is all we have left. but i'm always going to do. i will always going to do. i will always do that until i take my last breath. live in hope that one day the answers will come. we can't do anything else. really. all have left i >> but someone out there has got the answer. >> oh yeah. the answer. >> but yeah. the answer. >> but then they've grown up in the last 20 years. >> they were scared . >> they were scared. >> they were scared. >> let's go up and then, you know need to for know they need to do it for charlene, not for us, but for charlene, not for us, but for charlene give her that we charlene to give her that we need that closure whilst investigating her disappearance, lancashire police uncovered a dark behind the dark underbelly behind the bnght dark underbelly behind the bright lights of blackpool's promenade. >> they found that charlene was just one of around 60 girls in the area who'd been victim to a form of child sexual exploitation . gruesome details

exploitation. gruesome details would emerge around how charlene had allegedly been killed, but ultimately, no one has ever been found guilty of her murder. now two decades on from charlene's disappearance, lancashire police say they're still committed to getting justice for her family . getting justice for her family. >> i'm appealing to those people who know what happened to charlene and for whatever reason, over the last 20 years have not come fonnard and told us what happened and who's responsible for her disappearance . because disappearance. because charlene's family have spent 20 years not knowing, agonising over what happened to her and no closure or justice. >> 20 years on, lancashire police say they will never stop their investigation sessions. and as the days , months, years and as the days, months, years pass by, her family still cling to the hope of some answers. so sophie reaper . to the hope of some answers. so

sophie reaper. gb to the hope of some answers. so sophie reaper . gb news. sophie reaper. gb news. >> how awful. >> how awful. >> what a sad story. >> what a sad story. >> 20 years and i parents. >> 20 years and i parents. >> i wasn't familiar with that story. thank you, sophie. >> i don't remember it. >> i don't remember it. >> so she would be 34 now? yeah, she'd probably have had her own family and kids and you have to compare it to the madeleine mccann, never really been mccann, who's never really been out the headlines in 14 or 15 years and pinched . wasn't she in years and pinched. wasn't she in a in a on holiday in portugal with the parents? they were very media savvy . they looked great media savvy. they looked great in front of a camera in the headune in front of a camera in the headline class family. weren't they doctors ? they doctors? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> geologist yeah, i think that's very sad. well, let's hope that appeal does some good. >> hope let's so. >> let's hope so. let's hope so. right. yesterday day, five men were jailed for more seven were jailed for more than seven decades non—recent child decades for non—recent child sexual exploitation in rochdale. >> well, to here tell us all about it is gb news investigations reporter charlie peach. and by the way, charlie, you did some great reporting in the east the the middle east after the war broke thanks andrew. broke out. thanks andrew. >> well, there has been some justice west justice in the north west yesterday the news we've yesterday after the news we've just very story.

that very sad story. >> have news about that. >> we do have news about that. five being jailed for five men being jailed for non—recent sexual assault charges and indeed charges regarding rape as well. their surnames are two men by the name of ghani hussain kazmi and a man called rhodes from blackpool . called rhodes from blackpool. this is for the abuse of two girls . between 2002 and 2006. girls. between 2002 and 2006. some of the details of the offending are extremely horrific, but the abuse started in 2002 when girl a had a chance encounter with one of the men surnamed ghani, and that started a cycle of abuse. the typical routine mean that we so sadly often hear about with these incidents of abuse gangs plied with alcohol and drugs picked up outside their school, often met whilst still in their school uniforms. and this incident was only reported to police in 2015 when this girl girl a told on a parenting course detailed how she had been raped and abused by these men well over a decade

before rochdale council passed this information to the police and the police. after this sentencing finally achieved yesterday , said that this is yesterday, said that this is a multi—agency approach . it's multi—agency approach. it's taken a long time, but we've got there and they thank the victims for all their support. >> even if she raised the alarm at and now 2023, at 2015 and it's now 2023, that's another eight years that took speaking this morning to maggie a former greater manchester. >> she's a great woman, greater manchester whistleblower. manchester police whistleblower. she said many the she said that many of the survivors now she said that many of the sun saying now she said that many of the sun saying the now she said that many of the sunsaying the and)w are saying that the police and the taking far too the council are taking far too long. the cps has long. and the cps has a tremendous of of tremendous backlog of trials. of course, we've seen this covered very, very readily over the last couple of but when it couple of years. but when it comes these victims, these comes to these victims, these survivors keeping survivors of abuse, keeping their trust in the authorities is so key to achieving that justice. keeping them engaged with and eight year gap with the work and eight year gap campaigners saying this morning that's just far too long. it's just far too long. and so many of those survivors from that penod of those survivors from that period are two gap, of period are two decade gap, of course. much of the reporting course. so much of the reporting from failure. from that time was a failure. greater manchester police has admitted enough. admitted they didn't do enough. they worrying they are now worrying that they're the

they're going to lose the engagement girls in engagement of those girls in ongoing investigations. >> girls, >> and often those girls, charlie, these charlie, and these these terrible gang stories terrible grooming gang stories were from difficult were girls from difficult backgrounds, maybe chaotic family life, perhaps in care , family life, perhaps in care, vulnerable. and you sort of think perhaps the authorities just didn't care quite as much. >> classism is clearly an element of the failure for the reporting two ago. reporting from two decades ago. there's that. and there's no doubt about that. and many across the many of the cases across the country, different country, up to 50 different towns seen cases of towns where we've seen cases of child abuse rings occurring in this style, it's clear that a classes element was there and you say the victim was on a parenting course. >> so she's now presumably at was a new mother in 2015 when she made the statement of what had happened. well so many of these young women these victims are young women with families and with their own families and their own lives. >> i've many of them >> and i've met many of them over last year investigating over the last year investigating this news many this work with gb news and many of fear that the of them say they fear that the situation they went through in the early noughties in the early noughties and some in the early noughties and some in the there hasn't been the 90s, there hasn't been a sufficient improvement. and they're their they're now raising their own children briefly, there was children in briefly, there was also race element about also the race element to about the not wanting the authorities not wanting because gangs were

because often the gangs were from an ethnic background. political correctness has undoubtedly been prioritised over the safety and security of women. this is an ongoing testimony made by victims and indeed many experts in the field support that view as well. and it appears to be the case that much of what happened in rochdale, particularly with the failures noughties rochdale, particularly with the failook noughties rochdale, particularly with the failook into noughties rochdale, particularly with the failook into this noughties rochdale, particularly with the failook into this investigation, to look into this investigation, was by a preference to was driven by a preference to look the way if abusers look the other way if abusers were of a british pakistani background. british, pakistani, wasn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> charlie. charlie, >> thanks, charlie. charlie, peter. the government has peter. so the government has announced a u—turn over its plans majority plans to shut down the majority of stations . ticket of railway stations. ticket offices blaming good offices in england, blaming good job and all. >> we've been saying that right from here gb from the beginning here on gb news the rail delivery group, they don't deliver much, do they? says while these plans won't now taken fonnard , won't now be taken fonnard, we'll at other we'll continue to look at other ways passenger ways to improve passenger experience. while delivering value for the taxpayer. >> well , joining us now is mp, >> well, joining us now is mp, a member of the transport select committee, greg smith. good morning, is a triumph morning, greg. this is a triumph for people power just tell us what the response was like when

this suggestion was made that we were going to leave lose ticket offices human beings ? offices manned by human beings? >> yeah, i had a lot of emails from my constituents. >> there were a lot of railway stations that my constituents use, particularly on the chiltern line, and people were really unhappy that the ticket offices were going to be closed . offices were going to be closed. i think what we do have to do, though, because the transport select committee is running an inquiry on accessible transport at the moment, taking evidence from people who use wheelchairs or perhaps are blind or partially sighted. and some of the experiences they have on the railway and other modes of transport is really , really bad. transport is really, really bad. things that you would never expect from this day and age of, you know, simply not getting the help that they need. and so we do need to have that national conversation about how railway stations can be made more welcoming and accessible, particularly for people that have specific needs and need

specific help with consequences . specific help with consequences. >> i read this morning about this decision . this is going to this decision. this is going to be passed on in higher rail rail fares for passengers that surely can't be acceptable. they're already among the most expensive in europe . in europe. >> yeah, rail fares have got to a point where people really take in a huge intake of breath when they see the increases every year. they see the increases every year . my constituency is just 50 year. my constituency is just 50 miles north of london and it's a £50 return if you want to go in at peak hours from haddenham and thame parkway. and it is an enormous amount of money. and if anything, we need to be looking at how we can get rail fares down, not up . and there is down, not up. and there is a consequence to having that level of staff at stations. but if commuters want it and demand it, then ticket offices clearly are here to stay. but we need that addition support in stations, particularly for people in wheelchairs or who perhaps can't

see that. well greg, this is just one example, paul, where technology is replacing human beings. >> we've got rishi sunak i conference getting very excited about all of these changes for you as a politician , are there you as a politician, are there enough conversations being had about the implication versions of these significant social changes for people, whether they are employees or just service users or customers in a business? it feels like we've just all assumed this is all good news. is well, probably not. >> is the honest answer to that . >> is the honest answer to that. that question. it's not just railway ticket offices. you know, one of the other huge explosive issues in my constituency is high street banks, where technology seems to have taken over . my constituency have taken over. my constituency is 335mi2. there is 1—1 high street bank still standing across that that geography in the town of princes risborough.

and, you know, we're all guilty of it, right? we all actually use the apps on our mobiles or banking on our laptops or whatever it might be. but there are still huge chunks of society who rely on access to cash, both to put cash in as well as take cash out and access those services in person. and i think , services in person. and i think, you know, i'm no luddite. i'm not against technology improving our lives, but i'm not sure that we have fully thought through the implications to vast swathes of society at the moment of full on automation and just briefly, greg, we are up against time older people in particular do not necessarily want to use an app' not necessarily want to use an app, do not want to do online banking and i'm not particularly old, but i'm one of them . yeah, old, but i'm one of them. yeah, we've got to go with with personal choice as well, haven't we? we forget that at some times that for many people they just don't want to use an app. they don't want to use an app. they don't want to use a website, they want the satisfaction, you know, actually , maybe it's

know, actually, maybe it's nothing to do with banking or buying a ticket. maybe it's actually to do with the fact that they might be living on their own and quite their own and actually quite like interaction and like the human interaction and the social interaction going the social interaction of going into bank a into a high street bank or a ticket office. there a ticket office. there is a societal duty there for some of our most vulnerable. >> or just pick up the phone and speak to a human being when you've got a complaint any you've got a complaint with any sort organisation . sort of organisation. >> well, when was the last time you do that? you were able to do that? >> being >> never, greg and you're being very controversial. >> problem. >> that is the problem. can i ask more controversial ask you one more controversial question before you go? do you like a drink on an aeroplane on. >> but not too many . yeah, >> yeah, but not too many. yeah, it's nice to have a cold beer when you take off. yeah, excellent. >> well, you've thrown fonnard to our next item. greg smith, thank you for joining to our next item. greg smith, thank you forjoining us because thank you for joining us because we to discussing we are going to be discussing that. whether you that. it's about whether you should allowed have should be allowed to have a dnnk should be allowed to have a drink an aeroplane drink on an aeroplane because some considering some airlines are considering getting some airlines are considering get that'll probably be to save >> that'll probably be to save money. that should a feisty money. that should be a feisty debate next year with britain's newsroom .

patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . 1125 with gb news radio. 1125 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so in 2022 there were 1028 cases of disruptive behaviour and air rage reported by uk airlines, which is nearly the triple number reported in 2019. i'm sorry, it doesn't sound a lot to me. >> think how many thousands of flights go out from british airports every day? >> this is true . >> this is true. >> this is true. >> but now. so some people think

dnnks >> but now. so some people think drinks on flights are not just disruptive , but actually they disruptive, but actually they should banned . should be banned. >> and apparently there have been more instances of been many more instances of in—flight nudity and violence . in—flight nudity and violence. and with that in mind, is it time to just pack it in and stop selling alcohol on flights? well, joining us to debate this is journalist julie cook and communication officer at the institute affairs . institute of economic affairs. reem morning , reem ibrahim, good morning, ladies. let's start with you, julie. we all like a little dnnk julie. we all like a little drink on the aeroplane. don't we? a british tradition. we? it's a british tradition. it's obligatory it's almost obligatory to have a pint before get on the pint before you get on the plane. if it's 6:00 in the morning. >> gin and tonic. in my case, yes . yes. >> yes. and i've been there and done that . done that. >> i once got >> in fact, i once got absolutely hammered as the young people say, on a plane from britain to canada and ended up very, very unwell at the other end.soi very, very unwell at the other end. so i have been there and done this. >> however, my argument now is now that i'm older and i go on flights with my children, i do not them experience not want them to experience drunken louts. three 35,000ft up in the air with access to doors

that can let in air and possibly make you crash . so, no, i think make you crash. so, no, i think it's time it was banned . it's time it was banned. >> reem, what do you think about that? it sounds like julie's saying, well, i had lovely saying, well, i had a lovely time, now i don't want to do time, but now i don't want to do it the youngsters it anymore. the youngsters can't do it. good point. >> exactly what it >> that is exactly what it sounds like. it's. i had fun when i was 20s and now when i was in my 20s and now nobody else can. i mean, look, ultimately, nobody that ultimately, nobody has done that . so drunk that . nobody has been so drunk that they've emergency they've opened up the emergency exit on the aeroplane. what does happenis exit on the aeroplane. what does happen is that people can be incredibly rude when they are drunk . they can obviously we've drunk. they can obviously we've seen these these non—violent incidents on aeroplanes where people been behaving in people have been behaving in these kind of ways. ultimately though, banning it won't solve the problem . there's nothing the problem. there's nothing stopping people from hopping over the wetherspoons right over to the wetherspoons right before flight . before they board their flight. i think everyone does that anyway . so ultimately, what anyway. so ultimately, what needs to done is that, you needs to be done is that, you know, aeroplane companies know, the aeroplane companies themselves need to take some responsibility and they themselves have to control the amount of alcohol that is being given to those that are more

drunk. i mean, if we look in any regular bar or any regular pub, if had too much to drink, if you've had too much to drink, they stop serving you the they will stop serving you the same exact thing should happen on planes. >> course , the argument >> of course, the argument would be, get on the be, well, people get on the planes, they're already legless because hour because they've had a two hour wait in. let them on then. but juue wait in. let them on then. but julie , i hate the idea that the julie, i hate the idea that the majority of people have to suffer because of the actions of a stupid minority. suffer because of the actions of a stupid minority . just because a stupid minority. just because those idiots can't control themselves. why should we have to suffer ? to suffer? >> i do agree with that. >> i do agree with that. >> and i would agree with that in any other context except for being that high in the sky in an incredibly dangerous, enclosed environment . as you mentioned, environment. as you mentioned, there have been cases where planes have had to to planes have had to divert to other airports because of 1 or 2 drunk people or people have become or they've become become violent or they've become aggressive stewards and aggressive to the stewards and stewardesses other people's stewardesses and other people's holidays have been ruined. so i think it would fine if it's think it would be fine if it's in bar where you can chuck in a bar where you can chuck people out. when you're people out. but when you're 35,000ft air and you're 35,000ft in the air and you're trapped people, it's trapped with these people, it's a different matter. >> have to worried,

>> we have to be worried, though. don't we, when whenever people talking about doing people start talking about doing things safety, things for our own safety, i start to get quite worried that this is going to be overreach . this is going to be overreach. >> absolutely. this is sort >> absolutely. and this is sort of where the health lobbyists and state zealots tend to and nanny state zealots tend to get in our way. and ultimately , get in our way. and ultimately, you know, regular couple that only get to go to benidorm once a year that are struggling to make ends meet, what you've saved up for this lovely holiday and now being told they and are now being told they can't enjoy a nice glass of shandy their to benidorm. shandy on their way to benidorm. i mean, that really is the impact of these kind of implementations of these kind of bans. it's not just 20 year olds on their stag do. it's actually it to be the people that it tends to be the people that have working incredibly have been working incredibly hard that want enjoy their hard that want to enjoy their holiday. and ultimately, me, holiday. and ultimately, for me, when holiday the when i go on holiday, the houday when i go on holiday, the holiday the airport. holiday starts at the airport. we fun then and we start having fun then and i think that most people would agree just because a small minority really are minority and we really are talking about a very small minority of people that behave in this way, we shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us. >> judy, you are just a

miserable old killjoy . miserable old killjoy. >> no , look, i've been there. >> no, look, i've been there. >> no, look, i've been there. >> i've done that. i like to dnnk >> i've done that. i like to drink when i was younger, but i really think an enclosed, dangerous environment, like a plane where you cannot escape needs some kind of control. >> maybe it should just be that the steward should have a little more training, perhaps a little bit training on how to bit more training on how to control a drunk person in the same police officers, a same way that police officers, a great officer is to great police officer is able to defuse if someone's defuse a situation. if someone's had dnnk defuse a situation. if someone's had drink outside had too much to drink outside a nightclub, maybe we just had to add juliet, that add that. juliet, would that keep you happy? >> it help , definitely it >> it would help, definitely it would help. and think would help. and i think that, you know, as a halfway measure perhaps be to limit perhaps would be to limit people. people people. but then i think people like angry about like ryan would get angry about that. people to that. if you limit people to two drinks, going say, drinks, they're going to say, oh, want five drinks. oh, no, but i want five drinks. so know, you can't it's so you know, you can't win. it's kind or nothing. kind of all or nothing. >> okay? can't limit >> okay? you can't limit everyone you can't limit everyone then you can't limit everyone. to make it everyone. you've got to make it so that you've if you've so that if you've if you've behaved then you can't behaved badly, then you can't dnnk behaved badly, then you can't drink but the rest of drink any more. but the rest of us to drink as drink any more. but the rest of us as to drink as drink any more. but the rest of us as we to drink as drink any more. but the rest of us as we want. to drink as drink any more. but the rest of us as we want. okay? k as much as we want. okay? >> right. thank you, ladies . >> all right. thank you, ladies. >> all right. thank you, ladies.

>> have a drink. go and >> go and have a drink. go and have a drink celebrate. have a drink to celebrate. >> and >> julie cook there. and remember only time i've remember him. the only time i've got a got slightly aggressive on a plane when someone asks me to plane is when someone asks me to wear a mask. so don't ask me to not and to cover not drink. and not and to cover up because don't live up my face because i don't live in iran. >> now, a little clarification here. mcdonald's has been hit with being put in by with more mice being put in by these protesters over israel with more mice being put in by thes gaza. protesters over israel with more mice being put in by thes gaza. i)rotesters over israel with more mice being put in by thes gaza. i said sters over israel with more mice being put in by thes gaza. i said sters mice israel and gaza. i said 100 mice have died. what i meant was 100 mice have died horrible have been died in horrible multicolours cruel. that's cruelty to animals . cruelty to animals. >> another, another attack. so we're going to be bringing you all of that and what are they thinking ? all of that and what are they thinking? according to a new study, cats have 276 facial expression eyes. i wonder what face they'd make if they saw all of those mcdonald's mice. >> they'd be licking their lips. >> they'd be licking their lips. >> that and much more after your morning's with . rihanna morning's news with. rihanna bev, thank you. >> good morning. it's 1133. bev, thank you. >> good morning. it's1133. your top stories from the newsroom . top stories from the newsroom. the rafah crossing from gaza has opened to allow foreign

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and people that i knew had dewbs & co weeknights from . & co weeknights from. six to 1139 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev tillman. >> all right, let's see what you've saying this you've been saying at home this morning. to show you morning. we're going to show you in little while this footage in a little while this footage of we're going to of max donalds. we're going to talk where basically talk about that where basically a pro, do say pro a protester pro, do you say pro hamas or do you say pro liberation of palestine? >> well, we're not sure, but

they're idiots. and it's the third time they've done it. >> unleashing which >> and unleashing mice which they've . they've died. >> that's right. they took a hundred on the third time hundred dies on the third time they've done this. hundred dies on the third time the�*soz done this. hundred dies on the third time the�*so idone this. hundred dies on the third time the�*so i thinkthis. hundred dies on the third time the�*so i think they dyed them in >> so i think they dyed them in the of the palestinian flag. >> it's a lot of effort to go with it. it's also cruelty to animals. anyway, alastair has said mcdonald's said if mcdonald's retaliated with the with cats when they released the mice, have the benny theme, mice, i'd have the benny theme, benny tune standby mice, i'd have the benny theme, benithen tune standby mice, i'd have the benny theme, benithen we tune standby mice, i'd have the benny theme, benithen we were tune standby mice, i'd have the benny theme, benithen we were talking standby mice, i'd have the benny theme, benithen we were talking about by and then we were talking about whether you should be allowed to dnnk whether you should be allowed to drink aeroplanes or not. and drink on aeroplanes or not. and grover understand grover says, i don't understand this alcohol. and this obsession with alcohol. and while i don't object to alcohol consumption moderation, while i don't object to alcohol consuwant)n moderation, while i don't object to alcohol consuwant another deration, while i don't object to alcohol consuwant another drunken don't want another drunken behaviour affecting me. and i choose drink alcohol choose not to drink alcohol because i like too much. so i because i like it too much. so i have a caffeine now . and have a caffeine problem now. and juuus have a caffeine problem now. and julius absolutely not. a julius water absolutely not. a dnnk julius water absolutely not. a drink on a plane is the start of a wonderful holiday yet again. the of people who enjoy the majority of people who enjoy a drink behave penalised a drink and behave are penalised because of a minority of louts. if drink on if you don't want to drink on a plane, fine. but don't be a killjoy for those who and in killjoy for those who do. and in fact, has also fact, my mother has also messaged show to say she messaged the show to say she went plane canada went on a plane to canada recently. two drunks on the plane was a nightmare.

plane said it was a nightmare. she's suggesting she's told me off for suggesting i can't flight without i can't take a flight without having sorry, mom. having a drink. sorry, mom. right having a drink. sorry, mom. rig she only has one mum, >> she only has one mum, apparently . apparently. >> free palestine protesters have struck a third macdonald in just 24 hours with a bizarre live stunt. we've just been telling you. let's have a look . telling you. let's have a look. >> eight days. telling you. let's have a look. >> eight days . look at this . >> eight days. look at this. they'll just drop these off in mcdonald's. all these rats and mcdonald's. all these rats and mcdonald's. oh, my days. black . mcdonald's. oh, my days. black. >> look at that . >> look at that. >> look at that. >> so that's the third time they've done this at mcdonald's in birmingham. i don't know why. the reason their targeting mcdonald's apparently is because mcdonald's apparently is because mcdonald's have providing mcdonald's have been providing food parcels for the israeli soldiers. haven't the israeli soldiers. haven't the israeli soldiers suffered for soldiers suffered enough for having eat mcdonald's having to eat mcdonald's food parcels ? parcels? >> frankly, they've done very well. >> but also, how do you explain that to kids in mcdonald's? dawn how does a parent explain to a child what that is meant to

symbolise? >> i can't explain it to you. and we're adults. really think and we're adults. i really think what process what is the thought process protesting i get right? okay. but the thought process? but what is the thought process? i really sorry the i feel really sorry for the mice, goes and mice, by the way that goes and gets bunch of mice, dies for gets a bunch of mice, dies for them and then release them at mcdonald's. did even them and then release them at mcdo of.d's. did even them and then release them at mcdo of that? did even think of that? >> mediaeval, isn't it, >> it's mediaeval, isn't it, scarlett? it's odd. it's dark . look. >> yeah, i mean, it's a publicity stunt that actually persuades nobody of nothing. i mean , we already doing an mean, we already doing an extinction rebellion here. >> they'll just turn people off. >> they'll just turn people off. >> yeah, i mean, that's what's so odd about it, is , is. is so odd about it, is, is. is there a serious debates going on about about palestine and israel ? there's no question it's on every news bulletin. everybody's talking about it. we really don't need a bunch of poor mice . don't need a bunch of poor mice. >> yeah. i mean, you know , you >> yeah. i mean, you know, you just think, what is this ? just think, what is this? >> i mean, why do they get the mice from i don't know . mice from i don't know. >> i do understand how you can because my, my cousin used to have a snake and may or occasionally fed it. the odd

live mice. but that was nature. okay that's what they do. right. okay. but where are you going? and hundreds them from go. >> there's obviously a big supply because this is the third time they've done this . time they've done this. >> i mean, but i wonder what crime it is. >> wonder what the person >> i wonder what the person doing be arrested doing that could be arrested for. something for. maybe there's something quite the that for. maybe there's something qldoesn't the that for. maybe there's something qldoesn't qualify the that for. maybe there's something qldoesn't qualify as|e that for. maybe there's something qldoesn't qualify as we that for. maybe there's something qldoesn't qualify as we should it doesn't qualify as we should talk to the rspca about it because would animal because they would know animal cruelty. >> think so. >> you would think so. >> you would think so. >> isn't a crime yet, >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is no. well, i mean, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd. well, i mean, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd beell, i mean, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd be a., i mean, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd be a lotmean, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd be a lot of an, if it >> stupidity isn't a crime yet, is it'd be a lot of people in prison. >> i'm sure. vandalism to mcdonald's would would, would is a yes i mean, i think a crime. yes i mean, i think there's no question about it's also disrupting their their business because it's going to put lot of people off because put a lot of people off because the idea you're to go in the idea you're going to go in and burger when the load and buy a burger when the load of have been running all and buy a burger when the load of the1ave been running all and buy a burger when the load of the floor. ween running all over the floor. >> don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> well, there are an awful lot of people who are mice phobic, right? really, really. of people who are mice phobic, righithey really, really. of people who are mice phobic, righithey not|lly, really. of people who are mice phobic, righithey not|lly, realit. of people who are mice phobic, righithey not|lly, realit if and they will not go near it if so. so you're you're right. but it just just it seems it just it just it it seems a very odd thing to it's making a mockery of the serious debate about children on both sides

dying. >> it's just ridiculous really. >> it's just ridiculous really. >> and we go to the other >> and then we go to the other protest, course, which was protest, of course, which was a more conventional one at liverpool street station yesterday london's the yesterday in in london's the city of london, effectively 500 chants sing free palestine. this isn't about free palestine, is it? isn't this about israel at war with a terrorist organisation ? organisation? >> well, i mean, the thing is , >> well, i mean, the thing is, i'm sure it's i don't know what each and every single person was doing. their their reason for being there . i mean, free being there. i mean, free palestine . yeah. okay. but they palestine. yeah. okay. but they started chanting also about jihad . jihad. >> and did they really? >> and did they really? >> yes , they did. from the river >> yes, they did. from the river to the sea. now we all know jihad can mean a religious journey development. da da da da holy yeah, but i'm not holy war. yeah, but i'm not entirely sure that's the message they were getting. >> using, using river to the >> but using, using river to the sea is a deliberately emotive phrase in a very febrile atmosphere. i certainly think it got that labour mp suspended even though he would yes, even though he would argue yes, if he said in if you read what he said in context, wasn't offensive context, it wasn't offensive because you can mean know from the you

the river that bit about, you know, palestinian place to know, the palestinian place to the sea, the gaza strip for palestine. >> israel remains in the middle. you can read it as that. lots of jewish people don't. >> i mean, it's a it's a trigger for jewish people. i mean, there forjewish people. i mean, there is there is absolutely no question that at and i mean, you know, the other side is that there are certainly people in there are certainly people in the israeli government who believe lviv they wouldn't put it the river to the sea because it's but they believe that the whole palestine should be whole of palestine should be israeli. right? so there is a so there is this serious debate on either actually , i you either side. and actually, i you know, i mean, i don't know who are the people who who were on the marches in liverpool street. i can i say that the people who go on the pro—palestine marches are people mostly who believe in the two state solution. they're not a they're not at war with either israel or or saying that what hamas did because it was horrendous. everybody i know feels that what hamas did i mean

, and i would say the vast majority of muslims are these people. >> some of them were chanting holy war. >> yeah, no, this is this is this is inflammatory . this is inflammatory. >> and you could argue could get should get arrested. yes. should get you arrested. yes. >> well i mean, they were >> yeah. well i mean, they were committing criminal offence, >> yeah. well i mean, they were corthetting criminal offence, >> yeah. well i mean, they were corthetting theyninal offence, >> yeah. well i mean, they were corthetting they could jffence, >> yeah. well i mean, they were corthetting they could have:e, >> yeah. well i mean, they were corthetting they could have been by the way. they could have been arrested. instead if you arrested. and instead if you watch lots bits of watch there's lots of bits of different footage. if watch there's lots of bits of diff(watch footage. if watch there's lots of bits of diff(watch somefootage. if watch there's lots of bits of diff(watch some ofntage. if watch there's lots of bits of diff(watch some of the). if watch there's lots of bits of diff(watch some of the footage, you watch some of the footage, the officers stopping the police officers are stopping frustrated passengers who simply want to get their train home. >> they want to whack them over the briefcase. the head with a briefcase. >> and the police were stopping them aggressively from them quite aggressively from filming. everybody them quite aggressively from filming. the everybody them quite aggressively from filming. the eycould dy them quite aggressively from filming. the eycould have sitting on the floor could have been arrested that a been arrested because that was a criminal event. >> did notice most them >> and i did notice most of them wearing masks, so of wearing masks, though. so of course, even have course, they don't even have the i that's got i think and i think that's got to of the review of to be part of the review of what's happening at the moment, because they're because if they're if they're peaceful, freedom loving democratic, voters. democratic, demonstrate voters. >> scarlet, why are why are they hiding their faces? >> well, they're hiding their faces they're doing faces because what they're doing is don't want is illegal and they don't want to mean, think to be arrested. i mean, i think it's marching westminster. it's about marching westminster. >> the other day that wasn't an

illegal march. >> but most people did >> i know, but most people did not wear masks. >> a lot did. not wear masks. >> right?iid. people who are >> right? no. the people who are wearing masks doing things wearing masks are doing things that illegal. right. i mean, that are illegal. right. i mean, that's why they're wearing masks. the vast majority of people, know, and we're people, you know, and we're talking tens of thousands on that . you could see their that march. you could see their faces. perfectly happy. >> do you think they shouldn't be masks on be allowed to wear masks on a march ? march? >> i think i think i think i do think i think i think we're think no, i think i think we're getting to a raising freedom of speech and freedom. >> i mean, i think to start. but if it's enabling them to carry out illegal acts so police out illegal acts so the police don't who are. no, but don't know who they are. no, but you can be arrested wearing a march, i'm perfectly march, right? i'm perfectly happy who are doing happy for people who are doing illegal to be arrested. illegal things to be arrested. well, mean, thing well, i mean, the thing is, because covid thing because of the whole covid thing about they claim about masks, they could claim they i mean, we all they could claim i mean, we all know it's not the truth, but they claim we are wearing they could claim we are wearing these masks because we are frighten or because we're in a large gang of people. >> yeah, yeah, yeah . >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> was always on my mind >> which was always on my mind when not when i was talking about not wearing anyway. right but wearing masks anyway. right but talking and safety ,

talking of health and safety, meat should come with a graphic health warning like cigarettes. do you agree , dawn? do you agree, dawn? >> well, the graphic health warning on the cigarette packet does seem to have had some effect. less people smoke. now it's a lot of that's to do with the price, i think. yeah it's to do with the price. it's to do with places you to with with places you to do with culture. yeah. yeah. of course it is. >> banning from public places and is great. and restaurants, which is great. >> yeah. which one the >> yeah. which is one of the best that ever happened. best things that ever happened. >> yeah. now would have the >> yeah. now would it have the same. don't eat meat. same. i mean, i don't eat meat. we've had this debate already. i don't eat meat. haven't don't eat meat. i haven't done for so no, don't eat meat. i haven't done for so n0, is for 40 years. so no, but i is that for health reasons though or animal reasons. or animal cruelty reasons. >> animal cruelty reasons. >> i have to be honest, but i just don't like it very much. and it's mainly for health reasons me. don't want reasons for me. but i don't want to be a position where i'm to be in a position where i'm sitting you should to be in a position where i'm sittithis, you should to be in a position where i'm sittithis, shouldn't| should to be in a position where i'm sittithis, shouldn't eat)uld eat this, you shouldn't eat that. think, you that. and i just think, you know, husband eats me. he know, my husband eats me. he eats literally anything. you know, go hotel, know, we'll go to a hotel, a country hotel for the weekend and, know, drive and, you know, we'll drive through fields, in through the fields, you know, in the lambs and the spring. little lambs and everything a farm.

the spring. little lambs and eve he1ing a farm. the spring. little lambs and eve he thinks a farm. the spring. little lambs and eve he thinks that'd a farm. the spring. little lambs and eve he thinks that'd be farm. the spring. little lambs and eve he thinks that'd be airm. the spring. little lambs and eve he thinks that'd be a nice >> he thinks that'd be a nice lamb chop. >> and then to dinner >> and then he'll go to dinner and right, let's have some >> and then he'll go to dinner and then, ht, let's have some >> and then he'll go to dinner and then, shallt's have some >> and then he'll go to dinner and then, shall we?ive some lamb then, shall we? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you've just been going on. look lambs. look at the little lambs. so i don't have a problem with eating that. think makes but that. i think it makes you. but i in i mean, everything in moderation. absolutely with the food thing, smoking different, obviously. but i think if you fancy of meat fancy you know, a piece of meat once a week or this some fancy you know, a piece of meat once labelek or this some fancy you know, a piece of meat once label research. :his some food label research. >> it carried >> scarlett wasn't it carried out by a phd student, jack hughes. things hughes. and so it's so things like label with a the like a label with a the deforested area on the label with factory smoke in the distance and text saying distance and the text saying meat eating meat contributes to climate change. and he said in his research, reaching net zero is a priority for the nation and the planet . thanks, jack. don't the planet. thanks, jack. don't need tell me what to eat. need you to tell me what to eat. >> well, mean . i mean, let's >> well, i mean. i mean, let's begin with it's never going to happen because who markets meat? people who want to sell it. i mean, the farmers making fake meat. the bill gates has bought up more farmland in america than anybody else. >> and he's now making fake meat that we will be encouraged to eat. i steak i, i don't

eat. well, i steak i, i don't look, i don't eat meat and i don't eat meat. >> you don't eat meat. you don't eat meat. >> i don't eat meat. and i haven't done for 40 years because literally . because literally. >> are you sisters? we're twins. we are born within 24 hours of each other. you do know that. >> really? but and it's because of the way animals are treated. i mean, which is not in this research at all. right i mean, i think that the way animals are treated on farms, i mean, i saw it was an american film that i saw that put me off completely. and i just haven't done it since then. and i just don't think it's necessary to kill animals for however i mean, for food. however i mean, i don't think this works. and i and i certainly don't don't impose it on anybody else . i impose it on anybody else. i mean, obviously, if you come to my house, you don't get meat. however, what do we get? >> some boring vegan food? >> some boring vegan food? >> oh, you get fish. that's right. which is probably i shouldn't do. and get very shouldn't do. and you get very nice vegetarian food that nice vegetarian food and that you've made sure you never you've just made sure you never get invitation . get an invitation. >> honestly , there is a movement

>> honestly, there is a movement in this country or across the world now about metabolic health and how we would be better advised to eat what we should be eating human which eating as human beings, which is a meat and plenty a little bit of meat and plenty of and a bit less of vegetables and a bit less carbohydrate meat is bev's mum. protein >> yeah. even. sorry, bev's mum. glass of glass of wine on a plane. bev. yeah but everything in moderation. i mean the thing is with the whole green argument, unless you are literally eating fruit and vegetables are grown in the vegetables that are grown in the season in the country you live flying a of more exotic flying a lot of more exotic produce in around the world is just as bad for the environment. >> global warming. >> global warming. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> global boiling. >> global boiling. >> boiling. global boiling. and we do need think about the we do need to think about the way actually are treated way animals actually are treated and killed. and the way they're killed. >> . and the behaviour >> right. and the behaviour they're raised abattoirs they're raised and abattoirs and, and it's quite so i have a very left wing pro eco son who , very left wing pro eco son who, when he gets that from, you know , he, he is a carnivore, he eats meat my daughter. so i bought them both up. we just want to

get this last story in because this is about expressions and somebody has had enough time on their hands to look at the number of expression genes that cats may . cats may. >> and apparently cats have more than 300 facial expressions , as than 300 facial expressions, as i know. i mean, who would have the time? >> well, can i tell you , i have >> well, can i tell you, i have two cats, rosie and millie, and they have just about one expression. it's indignation they have just about one exprerthey it's indignation they have just about one exprerthey it's intgetation they have just about one exprerthey it's in(get their way, when they do not get their way, indignation that they're being looked after by. >> andrew. >> andrew. >> why can't we have a better person? >> they love their dad and they ignore other dad. but ignore the other dad. but because i feed them indignation, this is the thing, isn't it? >> you feed them and that's it. >> that's the expression that's feed >> that's the expression that's feeiand if don't get it, >> and if they don't get it, it's that look who was sat and stared at a cat for that long. >> discover they have quite >> they discover they have quite probably probably somebody probably some probably somebody got grant do this work. >> i think we need see what's >> i think we need to see what's going going on gb news going to be going on on gb news live. it's martin daubney and ellie this afternoon. morning. both what have you got coming up on the show? >> well, yes, good morning to

you both. >> we've got an absolutely packed we, martin, packed show, haven't we, martin, coming you at noon. coming up for you at 12 noon. yeah, it's the latest from israel. >> and we're delighted say >> and we're delighted to say we've got lord daniel finkelstein to britain. >> excellent in today's >> excellent column in today's times people sadiq times saying people like sadiq khan calling for ceasefire, khan calling for a ceasefire, simply understand israel. simply do not understand israel. plus we'll storm keir and be paying plus we'll storm keir and be paying you a visit. plus we'll storm keir and be paying you a visit . and of paying you a visit. and of course, exclusive images course, latest exclusive images from royal visit to kenya. from the royal visit to kenya. and of course, we're going to be talking about the mice attack third. >> macdonald is now where dozens of mice have been released. is that enough put off that enough to put you off mcdonald's for life? certainly terrifying. of people in terrifying. lots of people in birmingham. we're going to have jack us in jack carson live for us in birmingham . it's going to be an birmingham. it's going to be an absolutely packed show with you 12 today. 12 to 3 today. >> fantastic . martin daubney and >> fantastic. martin daubney and ellie up enough ellie costello up enough mcdonald's for life anyway , i mcdonald's for life anyway, i quite a mcdonald's. i can't quite like a mcdonald's. i can't lie. i just do just from time to time. i bet you've never eaten a mcdonald's. have you done your eaten? scarlett i have. eaten? no. scarlett i have. >> but i mean , they are fatty >> but i mean, they are fatty and horrible. yeah >> i've not eaten one for 30 years.

>> well , look, we will be back >> well, look, we will be back tomorrow morning at 930. >> and as we just heard from ellie and martin, lots more coming up this afternoon. first, though , we know there's a storm though, we know there's a storm coming , though, we know there's a storm coming, right, though, we know there's a storm coming , right, kieran? isn't it? coming, right, kieran? isn't it? storm is coming. >> stupid names strong. >> stupid names strong. >> so hopefully we will be here tomorrow . but here is the weather. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. a day of blustery showers for many of us before it turns increasingly wet and windy as storm kieran arrives overnight. now, first to the more persistent wet weather is affecting central and northern parts of scotland. that is edging northwards, followed by heavy downpours into northern ireland's central and southern scotland and also scattered showers and sunny spells further south, the best of any drier weather will be towards the south—east, although it's going to be blustery for many of us. and to feel the and it's going to feel on the cool overnight, we're cool side. now, overnight, we're going to see the approach of this low pressure this area of low pressure named storm because of the risk

storm kieran because of the risk of disruptive and in some places damaging winds around southern coastal areas in particular. initially it's the wet weather that could cause problems overnight that sweeps into the south of the uk and then the winds strengthen south—west england most at risk of the strongest winds during the early hours of thursday in places gusts of 80 or 85 miles an hour. but they will mostly be affecting the coasts. and then that swathe of strong winds through the day on thursday moves along the coastline to effect by the afternoon. the south—east of england with again, coastal areas most at risk of some very strong winds. 70 to 80 miles an hour inland, more like 50 or 60 miles an houn more like 50 or 60 miles an hour. and much lighter winds further north, although it will be a blustery day with heavy rain in places by

by late. >> good afternoon . you're >> good afternoon. you're watching gb news live with martin daubney and me, ellie costello coming up for you this wednesday lunchtime . wednesday lunchtime. >> some diplomacy at last. qatar has mediated an agreement between egypt, israel and hamas to allow the movement of foreign passport holders out of gaza. and as calls continue for a ceasefire, we'll be joined by lord daniel finkelstein, who's argued those calling for one of argued those calling for one of a ceasefire since he failed to understand israel and the highly anticipated noted i safety

summit commences at bletchley park today. >> tech leaders and spy chiefs will join the likes of elon musk and kamala harris as the uk hosts an event expected to highlight the opportunities and the dangers of artificial intelligence . since we'll be intelligence. since we'll be live in milton keynes and batten down the hatches because storm kieran is coming with a danger to life issued for parts of the uk. >> we'll be live across the country as gusts of wind are expected to reach a whopping 80 miles an hour. expected to reach a whopping 80 miles an hour . and we'll have miles an hour. and we'll have the latest for you on a third muchmore's attack as pro—palestine protesters unleash rodents painted in red , white rodents painted in red, white and green into yet another fast food chain in birmingham. >> i think it's the third restaurant that's been attacked in two days. dozens of rodents just released out onto the restaurant floor. >> horrible. that's making you

almost jump onto your stool and awful.