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? john kettley will exceptional? john kettley will join that and i'll be join me on that and i'll be joined on talking pints by a former minister of iceland former prime minister of iceland and a little country that's managed stay of the managed to stay outside of the european union and keep its own fish . should we have learnt from fish. should we have learnt from iceland earlier? but before all of that, let's get the news headunes. headlines. >> nigel, thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest israel defence forces has confirmed they've completed the ground encirclement of gaza city. they've now entered another significant stage in the war. they say that as northern gaza came under intensified airstrikes from the israeli military , as hamas launched military, as hamas launched a series of missiles towards israel. today, at least a dozen combat jets launched missiles at hamas targets while artillery placements opened fire from ground positions. it comes after fresh strikes this morning killed two hamas leaders in jabalya , an area used as
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jabalya, an area used as a refugee camp. the united nations says it has serious concerns israel's actions could amount to war crimes. the rafah border crossing opened for limited evacuations from gaza for a second day. at least 335 foreign nationals left yesterday . dozens nationals left yesterday. dozens of the severely injured were also taken for treatment. in egypt following an internationally brokered deal. it's understood around 7500 foreigners will leave gaza over the next two weeks. the foreign office is aware of around 200 uk nationals in gaza , while the nationals in gaza, while the united nations has this evening said almost 80 americans have been able to leave gaza one day after those evacuees began crossing into egypt. in his trip to the region, un secretary of state antony blinken says he'll discuss the steps to minimise harm to civilians in gaza. of course we're intensely focussed every single day on the hostages and taking every possible step that we can in concert with
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others to secure their release . others to secure their release. >> third, and finally we will be talking about how we can set the conditions for a durable, sustained peace, durable, sustainable security for israelis and palestinians alike . israelis and palestinians alike. >> police are investigating what's been described as a hate crime after a building in london was covered in red paint . was covered in red paint. messages about the israel hamas war were painted on the building where weapons from leonardo's is based with the entrance splattered in red . two men were splattered in red. two men were arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated criminal damage . the prime minister says damage. the prime minister says his safety summit would tip the balance in favour of humanity. speaking at bletchley park this afternoon , rishi sunak said this afternoon, rishi sunak said this had been achieved by establishing a shared understanding of risks and reaching an agreement on testing the safety of new ai models before they're released . he says before they're released. he says safely harnessing this technology could eclipse
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anything. we've ever known . and anything. we've ever known. and the covid inquiry has heard that matt hancock wanted to decide who should live and die. should hospitals become ovennhelmed. lord simon stevens, who was chief executive of nhs england at the time, said he discouraged the former health secretary's plan, preferring to leave such decisions to the medical profession. the inquiry is continuing here with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by simply saying play smart speaker by simply saying play gb news now it's back to . nigel >> good evening. last night you may remember i covered the story of a man who was arrested on suspicion of a racially aggravated section five public order offence . the police told order offence. the police told him he was being arrested because he was witnessed saying why are they over here, etcetera ? are we let them into our
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country , etcetera. he was taken country, etcetera. he was taken to an east london police station. i can now tell you a man has been released on bail until late november . sir, i'm until late november. sir, i'm afraid i can say no more than that about it for legal reasons , that about it for legal reasons, as i will try to update you as soon as i . can so . on the 11th soon as i. can so. on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month in 1918, the guns fell silent on the western front and all the other theatres of war. it is a very, very important moment in our national story. and it's something actually only that has very much been respected in recent years in a remarkable way. on top of remembrance sunday, which of course takes place at the cenotaph, a ceremony that for years the queen attended. and of course, king charles will be there on sunday. the 12th. but i find it pretty extra ordinary
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that there is a big pro—palestine march, in fact, demands from some for a million strong march to come through the centre of london . on the 11th of centre of london. on the 11th of november. for now . now, i have november. for now. now, i have said before to great criticism that i've worried in the past about a lot of people coming into britain with whom we have no shared history and no shared culture either. and this, i think, is a very good example of that. should this march go ahead and especially should it be allowed to go down whitehall , allowed to go down whitehall, past the cenotaph ? and i think past the cenotaph? and i think the answer just has to be no. i think this march has to be blocked. it's not as if there's a shortage of pro—palestine marches. there taking place all the time , and not just in the time, and not just in london, but in many other cities as well . so i think this march
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as well. so i think this march should be blocked. mayor khan has said precious little about it. it's interesting to see that in germany they really are taking a very different approach. i was astonished to see the vice chancellor, robert habeck , who's a green, saying habeck, who's a green, saying that what was happening on the streets of berlin was unacceptable all and there unacceptable all and that there would be tough consequences for thousand people so far have been arrested on the streets of germany . i arrested on the streets of germany. i think for historical, for cultural, for national reasons , we should not allow reasons, we should not allow a march past the cenotaph on armistice day. and i feel actually very, very strongly about that. please let me know what you think. am i wrong in some way? farage at gbnews.com well, joining me to discuss that and more generally what is going on in london and our other cities is rear admiral chris parry , former royal naval parry, former royal naval officer. chris, thank you for coming back on the program. i'm
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in particularly as a former serviceman, it's a pretty special moment in the year, isn't it? >> it is . and luckily it doesn't >> it is. and luckily it doesn't actually fall on the same day as the sunday, which would be really pretty offensive to actually say we're going to have this march, this rally taking place on the same day as the sunday say it is happening, of course, on the 11th, as you say, and in recent years, i mean , you and in recent years, i mean, you know, years ago, the 11th, the whole country stopped. >> the decade, >> but in the last decade, actually, ali, you know, you can go waterloo station at go across waterloo station at 11:00 11th, and it 11:00 on the 11th, and it is still a moment top, isn't it? still a moment on top, isn't it? a remembrance sunday. >> and i hope that we're going to see on saturday this to see on saturday if this rally goes going to see goes ahead, we're going to see large of people falling large numbers of people falling silent at 11:00. silent for two minutes at 11:00. >> well , i wonder that. >> well, i wonder about that. >> well, i wonder about that. >> if don't, it tells us >> if they don't, it tells us everything we need to know about what people think about this country about customs. country and about its customs. >> the i made the >> well, i made the i made the comment moment that there comment a moment ago that there are people who come this are people who come to this country have country with whom we have nothing shared in terms of
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history and culture. and prominent among those is an activist dilli husain, activist called dilli husain, who's been incredibly active. and have a does have and he does have a he does have a prominent role in the palestinian very palestinian community, very prominent this week. prominent on twitter this week. he said we are expected to he said this. we are expected to observe two minutes silence on remembrance defeat of remembrance day. the defeat of the ottomans in world war i, the colonisation of palestine by the british mandate and the 1917 balfour declaration in is when the idea of israel was actualised. there will be a resounding rejection of this silence this year and for many years to come. he doesn't actually go on to say who he would have preferred to win world war ii, which might be might be quite an interesting question. how do we cope with this? chris? we've got people living in the country rising to positions of prominence who seem to loathe everything we stand for. >> well, i think they've got to be called out, nigel. i think the person you mentioned, i think we've got to recognise these are not just people who are acting politically , they're are acting politically, they're attention seekers . and i think
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attention seekers. and i think these people have got to be called out. we've got vast numbers of narcissists , numbers of narcissists, attention seekers and people seeking to promote themselves, not only on social media but in our political space. and we've got to do something about it. the other thing we have to accept is that when people say they're coming to britain to escape tyranny, we don't expect them to turn around in our country and support those very tyrants who they say they're fleeing from. >> that's one of the most astonishing things in practical terms. seems to me the police are scared of tackling this head on. i the police have had a >> i think the police have had a look at this, as i would do in a military situation, and say, right, is the what are the right, what is the what are the rules of engagement here? and as far i can see, the policy is far as i can see, the policy is one of de—escalation. and don't provoke crowd to do big provoke a big crowd to do big things . and i would think that things. and i would think that every single risk assessment so far has said, look, where's the greater harm? and to be fair to the police and to the politicians, we've had two very large and marches , very large rallies and marches, very few incidents , but actually
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few incidents, but actually quite a lot of crime going on within group. and think within that group. and i think the decision has been taken. that's a lower risk than actually provoking it. we haven't seen any riot police. we haven't seen any riot police. we haven't handed haven't seen any heavy handed calls from some mps for the army to be sent in. i mean, that's not the army's job. you know, once the police have proved that they do their job, then they can't do their job, then perhaps there's some military aid civil power . nigel i aid to the civil power. nigel i think question they think it's a question if they haven't to do the haven't been deployed to do the job. this is an act of political will and courage to do something about this. but the fact of life is you look at a crowd like is when you look at a crowd like the see ostensibly saying the one we see ostensibly saying this is for palestine, i think we know that palestine in inverted commas, is a sea in which many , many activist groups which many, many activist groups swim , including hamas and all swim, including hamas and all these other noxious supporters. and i'm afraid they've got to be identified. we've got to call them out and i'm afraid we've got to deal with them. you know, britain is a tolerant place . it britain is a tolerant place. it doesn't have any place for intolerance. and i have say, intolerance. and i have to say, there large number of
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there are a large number of people i say that people to whom i would say that both ignorance and silence is violence to turn around their phrase unto them against them. we've got lots of people who are standing by and doing nothing . standing by and doing nothing. and you and i know that the jon stewart mill thing applies here. you know, for bad things to happen , all it takes is for good happen, all it takes is for good people to do nothing. we've got good doing nothing at the moment. >> should the march be blocked on the 11th? >> i, i it's not my decision nor yours, nigel. my view is if they are satisfied, they can deconflict that march on saturday from what is going to happen on the sunday and due respect is paid to our monuments, our way of life and our heritage, then it can go ahead. >> okay. well, if it doesn't, then that's a signal that all those people in that march do not respect what the rest of us in the united kingdom. well, as kipling identified the word if is a very big word. if it's a many chris parry, thank many things. chris parry, thank you very indeed. right. i'm
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you very much indeed. right. i'm going now to join gb news security editor mark white, who joins now now from joins me live now now from southern israel, very close to the gaza border there. mark, good evening. bring us up to date. i've seen a statement that has come out from the israel defence force, the idf , saying defence force, the idf, saying that the israeli forces have completed the ground encirclement of gaza city and that we have now entered another significant stage in this war. what are you seeing there on the ground on the border with gaza ? ground on the border with gaza? >> yeah, this is rear admiral daniel hagari, who is the idf spokesman, signalling that new phase that we're into now. but regardless of what's happening with the encirclement of gaza city, we still have regular arms fire munitions is artillery going in and missile strikes in the area where we are in
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northern gaza, because it seems that although the idf have pushed further south towards gaza city , there are still gaza city, there are still pockets of hamas fighters who are coming up, probably from a tunnel. networks out in the foreground there. and that's why we're hearing regular explosions, even this evening. we're seeing the night sky, which is actually dark because, of course, the power is cut off to gaza and only a few generator hours are providing some light in some places, for the most part , it's really dark, but it part, it's really dark, but it gets lit up regularly by the explosions of these artillery shells and these missiles going in. there is reason, from an israeli perspective to think that they are actually achieving some . success well, certainly in some. success well, certainly in terms of taking out the hamas fighters , hamas terrorists,
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fighters, hamas terrorists, which is their determination, their goal to destroy this terror group, they are clearly making progress. they are deaung making progress. they are dealing with hamas. and they say that today they have attack and taken out 150 hamas fighters . taken out 150 hamas fighters. but it's also clear that they are well dug in. they've been very well prepared over a long penod very well prepared over a long period of time for this battle. they are now in and they have clearly lots of supplies of rockets and other munitions down in those network of hundreds of miles of tunnels that they can get up, they can pop up in different locations and just keep trying to ambush those israeli defence forces personnel . we should say that although of course, the fierce fighting has been concentrated around gaza, there are significant issues now in the northern border . and
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in the northern border. and nigel, with again today drone strikes , rocket strikes coming strikes, rocket strikes coming from both hezbollah and hamas who are up there in southern lebanon as well. and israel has responded to that with fire on those hezbollah and hamas positions. but the town of kiryat shemona in northern israel was badly hit by a rocket attack . large fire in the centre attack. large fire in the centre of that town and mark, finally we heard about some british citizens getting over the crossing at rafah into egypt yesterday. >> some reports today that some britons had failed to get over that crossing . yes that crossing. yes >> yeah. i mean, it seems that the british nationals are a bit lower down the list in terms of those who are eligible to get out . it's those who are eligible to get out. it's being done in a controlled way. and today we were told about 400 us citizens were told about 400 us citizens were on the list to be allowed through the rafah crossing into
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egypt. but president biden has just confirmed that 74 dual national american citizens have now gone through that crossing. so we don't know yet what's happened to the others and how many actually in total have crossed. but clearly, however many cross in this controlled fashion. it's just a tiny, tiny proportion of the hundreds of thousands of millions who are still trapped in gaza and who can't get out . can't get out. >> mark white from the border with gaza, thank you very much indeed. with gaza, thank you very much indeed . in a moment, storm. indeed. in a moment, storm. karen, how exceptional was it? how much rainfall have we had? is it unusual tornado warnings? only one man to join us to discuss all of that in a moment. legendary weatherman john kettley will be with
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raise about £180,000 at the moment. >> we're hoping for 200 grand. i think. i think it might be doable the way things are going. just a quick message for them, if that's all right. yeah >> thank you so much for
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>> look, thank you so much for your generosity. i some of your generosity. all i some of your generosity. all i some of your reactions proposed your reactions to the proposed million could million man march that could take on armistice day in take place on armistice day in central london. >> simon says ring of steel with the and turn the coaches the police and turn the coaches back the m4. and back on the m1 on the m4. and what simon refers to is the poster you earlier poster i showed you earlier saying can book coaches saying you can book coaches from dewsbury other parts of dewsbury and many other parts of the to come to london on the country to come to london on the country to come to london on the of november. and the 11th of november. and colleen says, with you colleen says, i am with you tonight, nigel. these marches should stopped. makes me should be stopped. makes me furious. now we heard of a tornado in littlehampton west sussex, over the weekend. gusts of wind on a lovely island of jersey of up to 104mph. quite extensive flooding in northern ireland. in hampshire , in ireland. in hampshire, in dorset. what does it all mean? was this a major weather event orjust was this a major weather event or just what we would expect at this time of the year? when i'm joined, as i said earlier, by john kettley , the legendary john kettley, the legendary weatherman, who, of course, worked at the met and the worked at the met office and the bbc. see, thank you for bbc. see, john, thank you for joining us. how big a deal was storm, kieran? >> well, it was a brute of a
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storm, i'll give you that. >> it was a brute of a storm. but of course it was fairly restricted. when it comes down to the speed of the wind. we talked about the winds of 90 miles an hour to 100 miles an houn miles an hour to 100 miles an hour. that was just really hour. but that was just really across islands, across the channel islands, across the channel islands, across of across the south coast of england, maybe 75 to 80 miles an houn england, maybe 75 to 80 miles an hour, damaging enough, of course. you came inland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose you came inland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose a you came inland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose a lotrou came inland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose a lot of came inland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose a lot of people nland, hour, damaging enough, of csuppose a lot of people today i suppose a lot of people today were was all the were thinking what was all the fuss but many places have fuss about? but many places have seen some very heavy rain. and i've just been at the i've just been looking at the figures last hours. lot figures the last 24 hours. a lot of places seen 30 to 40mm of places have seen 30 to 40mm of places have seen 30 to 40mm of rain and there's plenty of rain and there's still plenty coming well. so it was coming down as well. so it was a brute of a storm and it was always to involved with always going to be involved with the it was taking. it the track it was taking. it looked like it was going to track a little bit further north than it in the end. but it than it did in the end. but it is actually moving north now up through so it's through the north sea. so it's not finished yet. but not finished with us yet. but the storm force winds have certainly died down. it going certainly died down. it is going to very breezy night and to be a very breezy night and there and certainly there is more rain and certainly some more flooding to come in the different the next 24 hours in different areas the country than we've
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areas of the country than we've seen recently. but of course, some parts east and scotland and northern you've northern ireland that you've mentioned across northern ireland that you've mersouthwest across northern ireland that you've mersouthwest and across northern ireland that you've mersouthwest and comingrcross northern ireland that you've mersouthwest and comingrcro:the the southwest and coming off the welsh mountains, these places are yeah, my are already saturated. yeah, my garden actually that garden is actually like that as well had about well and i've only had about seven today. some seven millimetres today. some places a lot than places have had a lot more than me and john. >> you know, the rains . a funny >> you know, the rains. a funny old thing isn't it? because you know, often we report on this program ban has program that a hosepipe ban has come in in of southern come in in parts of southern england and indeed , we actually england and indeed, we actually had some towns and villages without for week that without water for a week that took just a months ago took place just a few months ago in summer. so we moan about in the summer. so we moan about the rain, but goodness the lack of rain, but goodness me, haven't we had some rain in dunng me, haven't we had some rain in during the month of october and now into november ? now into november? >> yeah, october, i think was one of the wettest we've ever seen. it's certainly been a record breaker for some parts of the country. notably, there's a place called wattisham, raf wattisham in suffolk where they've four times they've had about four times their normal october rainfall. another sheffield has another place, sheffield has seen its wettest ever going back to 1880, something like that . so to 1880, something like that. so many places have seen some extreme wet weather and this
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followed a bad end to september, too. and we're starting november in much the same vein. the bad news is that we've seen this sort thing before and we've sort of thing before and we've often some very often seen actually some very wet just continuing wet autumns just continuing right through to the end right the way through to the end of november. the of november. 2000 was the wettest ever autumn, going back to 1766. and it's not unprecedented to get this sort of weather at this time of the yean of weather at this time of the year. equinoctial gales, if i can say it, is the reason for it all. of course it's all tied into that jet stream which produces pressure produces the low pressure systems, different systems, the track in different directions, in different positions across the country. and that's reason different and that's the reason different areas actually the worst of areas actually see the worst of the and the worst of the flooding and the worst of the flooding and the worst of the stormy weather. >> but course, one thing >> but of course, it's one thing to have john kettley telling us about what has happened to the weather, but really important thing what does rest of thing is what does the rest of the november hold for the month of november hold for us?well, i'm glad you're just >> well, i'm glad you're just sticking to november not sticking to november and not talking about, know, the talking about, you know, the c—word at this stage. but at c—word and at this stage. but at the moment i can see more very unsettled weather for the next week or two. there is a glimmer of just a few days, perhaps
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of hope just a few days, perhaps around about what, 16th, around about the what, 16th, 17th, 18th, or it may just dry out a little bit. a ridge of high pressure coming down from scandinavia. but that may well get out again fairly get squeezed out again fairly quickly. at the moment, you quickly. but at the moment, you know, just looking know, we're just looking at more rain, miles side, rain, sadly, on the miles side, isuppose rain, sadly, on the miles side, i suppose for most of the time . i suppose for most of the time. so not much frost around at the moment. is really a moment. it but it is really a poor spell of weather. >> and a final thought. there was a tornado, mini tornado in littlehampton saturday, littlehampton on saturday, damaging roofs. a tornado warning out yesterday. and warning put out yesterday. and we hear word tornado with a we hear this word tornado with a slight of panic , but slight sense of panic, but actually little tornadoes are not that uncommon in the uk , are they? >> no, i suppose the figure is about 30. you'd normally get about 30. you'd normally get about 30. you'd normally get about 30 across different parts of the uk in a 12 month period, but some of them are never seen. you know, they just go across farmers fields and they arrive and go in about 90s and they, they don't really amount to a great deal. some are a little bit serious when go bit more serious when they go through middle of a town or through the middle of a town or a city. the one i can a city. the big one i can remember was in birmingham in
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about 2005, it or something about 2005, was it or something like big one went through like that. big one went through the that the middle of birmingham that was severe. but was really quite severe. but hopefully and thankfully, not many through the main many do go through the main towns cities . towns and cities. >> john kirtley, >> no, absolutely. john kirtley, as a delight to have you as ever, a delight to have you on the program. thank you. i must say, i thought it had been wet. realise had wet. i didn't realise it had been raf wattisham been that wet. if raf wattisham has in october four times has had in october four times the rainfall . now, it's the normal rainfall. now, it's that of the year where that time of the year where we're wearing poppies and the commonwealth war graves commission. of course, their work goes on 365 days a year in countries all across the world, something like graves and memorials to about, i think 1.6, 1.7 million people. in a moment, i'll be joined by peter francis to talk about their work. and it is actually truly magnificent
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radio. >> peter francis is the strategy
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development manager for the commonwealth war graves commission and it's this time of the year when we think about the sacrifice that was made by so many people , not just in two many people, not just in two world wars, but of course, in all subsequent conflicts. and i think that we think the losses that we suffered century in iraq suffered this century in iraq and can have kind of and afghanistan can have kind of made us realise once again that very often there is a very big price to be paid for freedom. peter welcome to the program to discuss the work of the commonwealth war graves commission. now something i've noficedin commission. now something i've noticed in this country , my noticed in this country, my little local church about three years ago, up pops a green sign telling us commonwealth war graves that it's a commonwealth war graves site . and i was in war graves site. and i was in cornwall at the weekend cd church i know quite well and once again, a sign that had never been there before has pepped never been there before has popped up. commonwealth so what's been going on? >> it's all about awareness. nigel i mean, many people think of the commission, they think of
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the constructed military the big constructed military cemeteries france, belgium and places like that, but don't places like that, but they don't realise in realise that actually here in the there are 170,000 war the uk there are 170,000 war graves that we look after in 13,000 different burial grounds. so chances are no more than five miles from your front door. there's a war grave and actually we have a little war grave app which shows you exactly within a five mile radius. what's what's near there. so about near there. so it's about raising awareness of raising awareness for people of the graves here. we've now the graves here. we've also now got volunteer programme here got a volunteer programme here in 2500 volunteers. wow in the uk, 2500 volunteers. wow who are helping us keep an eye on those graves. and making sure they're maintained as they should be. >> yeah, well, certainly the visibility is apple will come to the in a little bit because the app in a little bit because that's now across the that's important. now across the world. go world. you know, you can't go across france and particularly the first world war battle sites are these monuments to the are these huge monuments to the missing, aren't they? >> yeah. and again, it's perhaps for of that grown up for those of us that grown up with remembrance, it seems like a natural thing to do. but it was one of really, really was one of the really, really vexing that touched the vexing things that touched the commission was founded vexing things that touched the co 1917,ssion was founded vexing things that touched the co 1917, we1 was founded vexing things that touched the co 1917, we1 this was founded vexing things that touched the co 1917, we1 this commitment in 1917, we had this commitment
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revolutionary time to revolutionary at the time to remember everybody by name. regardless you were , regardless of who you were, where you died, how you died, and to the missing and the memorials to the missing were solution for those with were the solution for those with no known grave. this this industrialised that no known grave. this this industrimend that no known grave. this this industrimend simplythat no known grave. this this industrimend simply disappear caused men to simply disappear without . they without a trace. and they are some the iconic and most some of the most iconic and most visited sites that we have anywhere in the world, places like the gate and thiepval like the menin gate and thiepval on the somme, for example. >> no, no, remarkable >> no, no, they're remarkable places. you notice places. and what you notice about the commonwealth war graves , particularly if you go graves, particularly if you go in may, june , july, that time of in may, june, july, that time of the year is you'll see roses, you'll see garden flowers. by contrast , if you you'll see garden flowers. by contrast, if you go you'll see garden flowers. by contrast , if you go to the contrast, if you go to the military sites for germany , even military sites for germany, even for france, paul , portugal, for france, paul, portugal, there are so many different nationalities. those are all pretty dumas as somehow , despite pretty dumas as somehow, despite being places of immense sadness , being places of immense sadness, they have light and colour and flowers, don't they ? flowers, don't they? >> they do, because i think there's a recognition that cemeteries are actually places for the living as well as for the dead. there there has to be something that encourages
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somebody go. there is somebody to go. there is something gardening something about the gardening that kind of country that english kind of country garden we to garden feel that we try to embody that that sure that embody that that makes sure that there's right atmosphere to there's the right atmosphere to remember we quite remember the dead. we quite literally garden globe as an literally garden the globe as an organisation. probably one organisation. we're probably one of world's largest gardening of the world's largest gardening organisations. measure organisations. you might measure your at metres. your borders at home in metres. we measure ours in kilometres. yeah. >> no, no. and there magnificently kept. and for those that haven't been and visited sites, are visited these sites, they are truly you've got the truly remarkable. you've got the big factory outside arras where if the gravestones start to whether and where you replace them . and this is continual them. and this is continual work, isn't it funded by, by our six commonwealth member governments, each of whom pays a sum in proportion to the number of nation has. of graves that nation has. >> uk is about three >> so the uk is about three quarters of our budget. >> yeah, absolutely. so now >> yeah, no, absolutely. so now the interesting thing about all of peter, is that if we go of this, peter, is that if we go back time, first world war, back in time, first world war, second world war, there were some that began. in some families that began. in fact, cook were taking fact, thomas cook were taking people in 1919 to epe in large numbers and really, really made them a big travel company. some
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people couldn't resist going back. people couldn't resist going back . others just said, let's back. others just said, let's forget about it. let's just end it. let's just let life move on and when i first started getting interested in this in the late 19805 interested in this in the late 1980s to find out and research an individual soldier meant visiting kew , the public records visiting kew, the public records office , and going through books. office, and going through books. now, of course, the online facilities that are offered are extraordinary and a little, little story. my sister in law came to me last october with a medal that she'd been given by her father, didn't know what it was , looked at it and it was was, looked at it and it was a canadian cross of remembrance, a canadian cross of remembrance, a canadian soldier who'd been killed. what it turned out this was her great grandfather. she had no idea she'd lost a great grandfather. but by going on the commonwealth war, graves commission sites, we were able to locate the cemeteries , the to locate the cemeteries, the positioning. and on new year's day, i took her over there and we had. but this is now
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accessible soldiers killed in the war. this is now accessible all to everybody. and if they go to the commonwealth war graves site , there's of site, there's a mass of information. there isn't there? >> fantastic resource . >> it's a fantastic resource. nigel changed the nigel it completely changed the game for us in terms of how we remember make people aware remember and make people aware of sacrifice was made in of the sacrifice was made in those two world wars that decision took back in decision that we took back in 1998 put our records on the 1998 to put our records on the internet the first time. internet for the first time. yes, really , really did change yes, really, really did change that and that face of remembrance. and we're constantly adding to it. it's a static site. it's not just a static site. it's not just a static site. it's not just a static site. it's not something that we just simply there and simply post it up there and allow to kind of meander and forget. and we've done this forget. and what we've done this remembrance it remembrance time is enhance it still allowing people still further by allowing people to start upload their to start to upload their photographs and their anecdotes and the dead. and their stories of the dead. >> yes. and this is is >> yes. and this is this is a new feature this year, isn't it? yeah, absolutely. >> it's almost like sort of >> so it's almost like a sort of live blog that you can contribute to. >> it's putting human >> it's about putting a human face back to the inscription in stone recognition that stone that that recognition that behind single one of those behind every single one of those headstones on headstones or names on a memorial human story memorial is a human story waiting to be told. >> forevermore , stories of
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>> and forevermore, stories of the fallen is the new free portal that people can log on to via our website , that they can via our website, that they can upload their anecdotes and stories. don't them. stories. we don't change them. we them. it's we don't fact check them. it's important the families own important that the families own that sense history , and then that sense of history, and then it's creating a resource for the future. our younger future. so when our younger generation along, it's generation comes along, it's immediately kind of attracts them and humanises that sacrifice. >> people want to go onto >> so if people want to go onto this site and contribute their own little bits of family history, however sad and tragic some of them may be, how do they do this? >> literally go to the commission's website, which is at .org/ stories. it's a really simple tutorial. it will take you the way through how to upload the story , how to upload upload the story, how to upload the picture. we have a group of volunteers that monitor to volunteers that monitor it to make sure nothing silly is uploaded, but we don't edit the stories fact check stories and we don't fact check them. it's very much about owning story, creating that owning the story, creating that resource these people resource and giving these people back of they back the identity of who they were. back the identity of who they wer now back the identity of who they wernow back to the 13,000 burial >> now back to the 13,000 burial sites united kingdom. sites across the united kingdom. i to find many i was astonished to find many years ago a series of 4 or 5
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headstones, and one of them was an raf george cross. there almost like this bloke had been forgotten. and i've done my best and i've, i've done my best and i've managed to get he's going to be recognised now in the museum at biggin hill. he sort of been forgotten despite the fact he wore he won a george cross, but you're saying now on your app we can discover we put in our postcode or how does it work literally that you put in your postcode or actually you switch on your location software on your phone and it will say you have these many war graves around you. >> you can click on them, find out more information, find out who is that's there. who it is that's there. >> a cause death. >> exactly. a cause of death. >> exactly. a cause of death. >> their service . and >> exactly. their service. and then also , perhaps if we have then also, perhaps if we have a personal inscription that was chosen by the family at the time, that be on there as time, that will be on there as well. indeed. so can start well. indeed. so you can start to build a picture of who to build up a picture of who they were, what they were doing, and of course, the impact that their their their death had on their families communities, not families and communities, not just uk, but far
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just here in the uk, but as far afield as canada or australia and south africa and new zealand, south africa and india. >> well, i have to say the wgc, you really fully into the you really are fully into the full high speed internet, modern 21st century can't help 21st century and i can't help it. fan, big fan of the it. i'm a fan, big fan of the work that you do thank you work that you do and thank you for on and think about for coming on and think about what peter said. you know, i mean, perhaps a, i don't mean, perhaps it's a, i don't know, rainy sunday afternoon know, a rainy sunday afternoon in you just go on in the winter and you just go on to that site you can go and to that site and you can go and visit local churches, local places bits of local places and find bits of local history that may well have simply been forgotten as those generations die out . now, generations die out. now, talking of poppies, as this is a real what the farage moment sir keir starmer the leader of his majesty's opposition a couple of days ago was speaking at chatham house. let's have a look . so house. let's have a look. so there he is speaking and he clearly is wearing his poppy. and he very clearly is . he's and he very clearly is. he's extemporising. he's not reading off a cue or anything like that.
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he's doing actually at a place like chatham house where we discuss big global affairs . like chatham house where we discuss big global affairs. he's doing what a good political leader should do. now, just remember , for the tie the knot, remember, for the tie the knot, it's position , the shirt, the it's position, the shirt, the colour of the suit, it's position, the shirt, the colour of the suit , because colour of the suit, because here's the next clip that was posted on behalf of keir starmer . and you'll notice that the shirt is the same. the tie has the same crook. it is the same suit. but there are two big differences. one is the poppy has been removed . the second is has been removed. the second is he's wearing glasses and clearly reading every single word . and reading every single word. and that's because the first speech was about the international situation. charleton the second speech was a direct appeal to the islamic community in this country, so many of whom are labour voters. and he chose , as labour voters. and he chose, as i see it, he chose to ditch the poppy- now i see it, he chose to ditch the poppy. now labour have been
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challenged on this and a labour spokeswoman has said it was absolutely not a deliberate decision and is in no way linked to the content of the video really. so some people say that speech on islam phobia was given about an hour after chatham house. what happened ? did a house. what happened? did a magpie come down and pinch his poppy? magpie come down and pinch his poppy? did it fall out by magic? well, maybe the leader of the opposition is not quite as straightfonnard as he would always have you believe. now, in always have you believe. now, in a moment , always have you believe. now, in a moment, i'm going to be joined by a former prime minister of iceland , the youngest ever prime iceland, the youngest ever prime minister of iceland. and there are many things to talk about. but you know what they kept their 200 mile trip boreal fishing rights after they beat us in the cod wars back in the 19705. us in the cod wars back in the 1970s. and they never , ever join 1970s. and they never, ever join the common market, let alone the european union. could we have learned some lessons from iceland? little iceland a little bit earlier .
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it's time for talking pints. i am joined by sigmundur gunnlaugsson. i may even have pronounced that correctly. former prime minister of iceland delighted to have you on the program. thank you for talking pints. thank you . thank you. pints. thank you. thank you. thank you. now democracy parliament's the gorge. i've been to iceland and i visited this site. you know, where in midsummer, as i understand it, the tribes would send representatives from all across iceland. you you claim to be the oldest recognisable, the atheling, as it's called . the atheling, as it's called. the oldest recognisable parliament in the world. >> yes . since 930, which also >> yes. since 930, which also makes us a quite old country because as with parliament, iceland was established as as a nation, a nation state. this was
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before the german tribes arrived at what they would later call berlin. it was before the battle of hastings . and. and you're of hastings. and. and you're becoming england and britain. so we've had a long history and we've had a long history and we've always had the same borders because we're an island as you are . and we have fought as you are. and we have fought for independence, lost it and gained it again. >> who did you lose it to ? >> who did you lose it to? >> who did you lose it to? >> first, the nonnegians. yep. and then the danes took over nonnay and thereby iceland as well. but even in the early 19th century or the middle of the 19th century, icelanders at that time, maybe 50, 60,000 people were absolute sure that they should be independent. >> yeah, i love it . i should be independent. >> yeah, i love it. i love should be independent. >> yeah, i love it . i love it. >> yeah, i love it. i love it. i mean, it rhymes with i believe it. and it worked . it. and it worked. >> independence worked. if you use it. yes. and that's the
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problem. that's what i worry about now, both regarding iceland and the uk, is that we are not making enough use of our independence. >> the one thing that you did keep was your fish. and i came. i came many years ago and met the then icelandic fisheries minister. and you have a two and we fought a cod war against each other. >> three cod wars, three cod wars right through sort of the early middle part of the 1970s. >> and you won . you won. we lost >> and you won. you won. we lost every time that you won so comprehensively that international sea boundaries were changed from 12 to 200 miles. and you fiercely protected that 200 mile limit . protected that 200 mile limit. is fishing still a highly profitable industry in iceland ? profitable industry in iceland? >> yes. it still is. but of course , the economy is much more course, the economy is much more diversified now . and we are diversified now. and we are exporting a lot of products , exporting a lot of products, amongst others , pharmaceuticals
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amongst others, pharmaceuticals and aluminium. we are the second biggest aluminium producer in europe , which takes a lot of europe, which takes a lot of energy . energy. >> is that because of hydroelectric or. >> yes, exactly. yeah, that's you need a lot of electricity to make aluminium, but yet we have people claiming to be environmentalists who would like to all our aluminium to close all our aluminium production , which would mean it production, which would mean it would move to china to where it would move to china to where it would emit ten times what it doesin would emit ten times what it does in iceland. >> more emissions . no, no, this >> more emissions. no, no, this isn't funny. these arguments are all really very similar in many ways to the ones that we're having. and joining the european club, joining the european union . it was just never going to happen, was it? >> , soon after i started >> well, soon after i started politics in 2009, becoming party leader, two weeks after i joined the party, we had the left wing government, which decided to apply for membership of the eu . apply for membership of the eu. it turned out to be quite difficult for them and we managed for these four years to
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prevent that from happening. and once my government took over in 2013, we withdrew the application . and i've been hated application. and i've been hated ever since by the by the globalists, the big corporates, many of the banks , yeah. also many of the banks, yeah. also trying to find things we have in common. yeah we after the financial collapse . yes. the financial collapse. yes. the banking collapse in iceland, which was very dramatic for you . which was very dramatic for you. extremely dramatic. >> and it was followed by a volcanic explosion. yes. yes. everything was going on. and it was biblical, wasn't it? you know, and you could say that. and currency fell by it and your currency fell by was it 80? fell by or 80? i think it fell by or something like that. >> and. well, not quite, but it fell. interest went up by 25. >> i mean, it was really biblical stuff that was going on. yeah it was. biblical stuff that was going on. it>ah it was. biblical stuff that was going on. it wast was. biblical stuff that was going on. it was scary at the time. and >> it was scary at the time. and it was also scary to see how quickly this is caused. a lot of internal strife rather than people all coming together as one would have expected of
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icelanders or i would have. there was lots of internal strife in the country, but dunng strife in the country, but during my term in government we took on the banks , the creditors took on the banks, the creditors of the fallen banks, which were huge foreign banks and particularly hedge funds and i think it's safe to say , even think it's safe to say, even though i say so myself, that we turn the economy around faster than any other country has managed to do in in in living memory. but still, of course , memory. but still, of course, the globalists already hated me. so you can imagine what's happenedin so you can imagine what's happened in their view after that. so i've felt your pain when you've been telling. >> i remember i was in the european parliament at the time and i remember iceland being talked about, you know, poor little iceland hasn't got the euro outside the european union. and i remember saying, you know ,
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and i remember saying, you know, who would you rather be right now? iceland or iceland? and of course i said iceland. they all laughed at me. but because of your independence. because yourindependence.yes,because your independence. yes, because your float . yes. your currency could float. yes. because control your because you control your own interest . because you were interest rates. because you were you ran the levers of you know, you ran the levers of the economy. you recovered. and actually, greece has never recovered. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> it has literally never recovered. you did all of recovered. so you did all of those things went well. you upset the global establishment. your name was released in the panama papers made life panama papers that made life difficult, continuing . difficult, continuing. >> i was put on the cover of a newspaper in germany along with, i think putin and ahmadinejad in iran and me , a bloke from iran and me, a bloke from iceland. nobody had ever heard of it. but they they saw it as necessary to get rid of. >> well, we're both fully paid up members. sigmundur of the of absolutely the same club here and of that there is absolutely no doubt at all. so what now for you? you're still actively involved in politics. you've been over here the art
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been over here for the art conference this week. where does your from is it your career go from here? is it politics again or is it trying to influence opinion? >> i feel i have to continue doing politics because there are so many things that could be done so much better. and we have a very unusual government in iceland now which aims to be a sort of an apolitical government. so we have a left green party. we have the former conservatives, i call them former conservatives. and the progressive party and they came together to form a government which wasn't supposed supposed to be about politics, but stability. and what that mean. it meant the establishment and took complete control of the country without politics, the establishment rules . so there establishment rules. so there are lots of things i would like to see change in iceland and huge opportunities . so i will huge opportunities. so i will continue in politics and there are also huge challenges . for are also huge challenges. for example, immigration in iceland all of a sudden is out of
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control. >> yeah, so you see, there are all the same problems, aren't they? yeah. they want to deindustrialise you open the borders up now , you said to me borders up now, you said to me before we went on air that you could solve our migrant crisis, our cross—channel migrant crisis. so right off you go. >> in my opinion, looking at it from the outside, it's simple because things people , because things people, particularly politicians, make these things so complicated and they make things complicated for themselves. having given away power to some establishment that always is making things more and more difficult for them. so when a boat comes with illegal migrants , take them on land, migrants, take them on land, give each of them a bottle of water and bring them back to france. now this should, in the long run , suit france as well, long run, suit france as well, because i don't think they want to be sort of a middle ground in this huge influx of people going to the uk .
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to the uk. >> so just take them back to france with a bottle of water immediately. >> yeah, take them back to france. the french must receive them because they are coming from their country. >> they left a safe country. yeah. >> and they left france. well, we better get you. >> we better get you hooked up with the conservative government because they could do with somebody with a little bit a little bit of backbone. >> the best solutions are often the simple ones. yeah. so don't don't bother rwanda. just don't bother with rwanda. just take to france. don't bother with rwanda. just taan to france. don't bother with rwanda. just taan was to france. don't bother with rwanda. just taan was astonished 'ance. don't bother with rwanda. just taan was astonished 'annhear as >> i was astonished to hear as we going on air that all we were going on air that all the way iceland. you were the way from iceland. you were gb fan. gb news fan. >> yes. we have gb news in >> yes. yes. we have gb news in iceland. if we have satellite iceland. if we have a satellite dish and i know lots of people in iceland that really prefer your news channel to much, much of the entertainment and news we are being offered on other channels . channels. >> no, i love it. now some friends of mine were in iceland this year. they went up in june
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to fish for salmon and sea trout are population of those fish has declined. they loved it so much they went back again. i'm coming to iceland nextjune. i want to come and i want to come and catch some salmon and sea trout and hey, here's your and hey, you know, here's your pitch. should brits visit iceland? >> well, definitely iceland is a great country. the most peaceful country in the world. the nature is amazing . country in the world. the nature is amazing. but you may country in the world. the nature is amazing . but you may expect is amazing. but you may expect or should expect the weather to be similar to the uk or even worse. apart from that , well, worse. apart from that, well, we're already coming in big numbers and we'll keep coming. >> and it's absolute pleasure. thank you for talking pints and thank you very much. >> you very for >> thank you very much for having me. >> now tonight estimate survey is standing in for jacob rees—mogg. esther what have you got coming up on the programme? oh i tell you, we're talking about the police. >> they running scared ? i >> are they running scared? i mean, are they really policing those protests on the street? hundreds of thousands people
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hundreds of thousands of people have they've shouted have marched. they've shouted jihad. police quick jihad. are the police quick enough act? and why aren't enough to act? and why aren't they acting? acted? do they feel coward? they do. they feel intimidated by the numbers or as some are, crowley said, they need more laws. i don't think they more laws. just they need any more laws. i just think they need to policing think they need to do policing properly . properly. >> well, esther, i must say, what really is driving me mad, it seems to be that we're actually treating different. the police are treating different groups very, very groups of people in very, very different ways. i just what different ways. and i just what worries me is if we start to lose confidence in the police and their ability, frankly, you know, to be blind to the religion or colour, but to deal with the crime or potential crime as it is, then we're in trouble, right? going to be great with esther for the next houn great with esther for the next hour. that's it from me. i'll be back with on monday. still back with you on monday. still thinking the jungle. lots back with you on monday. still thithink the jungle. lots back with you on monday. still thithink about.the jungle. lots back with you on monday. still thithink about. still,ingle. lots back with you on monday. still thithink about. still, igle. lots back with you on monday. still thithink about. still, i will lots to think about. still, i will let you know all in. good course. before let's course. before that, let's have a look. the weather actually a look. is the weather actually now going, please, to improve? >> again . it's alex >> hello again. it's alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather update. whilst not
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everywhere saw the stormy weather, was very wet and weather, it was very wet and very windy for some particularly southern parts due to storm. kieran. however, that feature is now clearing its way into the north sea, still bringing some blustery and very wet weather to eastern parts of the uk, particularly eastern scotland, north—east england. as we go through the night and into friday here, we are going to see some further heavy rain, clearer skies towards the west and the south. and here under those clear skies, it is likely to turn a little chilly. some places could into your low places could get into your low to mid single figures as we go through friday. then we are going to further wet going to see further wet weather, particularly for eastern scotland and eastern parts of scotland and north—east could see north—east england. could see some further flooding here with more disruption to travel likely as well. elsewhere, scattering of showers coming down on a north northwesterly wind. so particularly across parts of northern ireland, but feeding into england wales as well. into england and wales as well. some breaks between the some sunny breaks in between the showers likely to see showers and we're likely to see highs around 14 or 15 highs of around 14 or 15 celsius. so a touch higher than today the weekend . and
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today into the weekend. and saturday may start with some mist and fog patches, particularly north. then particularly in the north. then a weather and a swathe of wet weather and strong winds pushes its way up from the south, affecting many parts england and wales. parts of england and wales. also, showery outbreaks also, some showery outbreaks across the far north of scotland , something drier and , but something drier and brighter more brighter in between. more showers as we go through sunday into monday and temperatures staying normal time staying near normal for the time of year
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by way. >> hello . good evening. it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, esther mcvey , filling in for the esther mcvey, filling in for the wonderful jacob reece mogg on state of the nation. tonight are the police running scared? we've had calls for jihad the police running scared? we've had calls forjihad on the had calls for jihad on the streets of london with police umming and aahing over the theological context of holy war. we've had black flags associated with bin laden being raised, thousands sitting in at liverpool street station and now the bizarre phenomenon of rodents being thrown into
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mcdonalds. the police need to feel emboldened if they are to tackle these problems , and that tackle these problems, and that doesn't mean more laws , it means doesn't mean more laws, it means more bobbies on the beat, making arrests and creating the deterrence. we so desperately need. meanwhile the covid inquiry has become embroiled in distraction after distraction on everything from dominic cummings foul language to special hairdryers that could or couldn't kill covid. and as even couldn't kill covid. and as ever, the real question has been forgotten was lockdown an overreaction ? and the king and overreaction? and the king and queen have been in kenya and have resisted the calls from usual suspects to apologise for colonialism . but what the trip colonialism. but what the trip has really revealed is that the royals are the british diplomatic weapon, and now we need them more than ever before. plus the national trust voting deadune plus the national trust voting deadline fast approaching . it's deadline fast approaching. it's your last chance to save our most cherished institution from masochistic wokery . voting ends masochistic wokery. voting ends tonight at 1159, and that's
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