has this evening said cleverly has this evening said the focus should remain on remembrance . the israeli remembrance. the israeli military has confirmed 260 idf troops have been wounded in the fighting in gaza. people in the north of the enclave have been facing intense bombardment. the israeli prime minister says there will be no pause in fighting until more than 240 hostages are freed by hamas. it comes as the us secretary of state has been meeting with benjamin netanyahu to discuss steps to minimise civilian casualties and tony blinken said a humanitarian pause was important to help get aid into the strip . scotland's first the strip. scotland's first minister, humza yousaf, says his family's been able to leave gaza through the rafah crossing. there among 92 british nationals trapped in the enclave that were approved to travel through into egypt today as the border opened again for limited evacuations . again for limited evacuations. palestinian officials say more

than 700 foreign nationals have crossed in the past two days, including dozens of critically injured people . to two women injured people. to two women have been charged under the terrorism act after images of paragliders were displayed at a pro—palestinian march in central london. 29 year old heba al—hayy . 26 year old pauline and kunda are accused of carrying or displaying an article to arouse suspicion. they're supporters of the terrorist group hamas . the the terrorist group hamas. the incident occurred last month . incident occurred last month. they've both been bailed. they'll appear in court on the 10th of this month. both conservative mp bob stewart has been found guilty of a racially aggravated public order offence. the beckenham mp racially abused a man after he allegedly told him to go back to bahrain. outside the foreign office last december . he also told outside the foreign office last december. he also told him, you're taking money off my country and to go away. the chief magistrate says stewart will not be jailed . and finally, will not be jailed. and finally, the met office has warned of

flooding and disruption to transport. announcing a yellow weather alert for heavy rain across the south and southwest of england. although storm kieran has largely eased the warnings being issued to last from 5 am. tomorrow morning to midnight, stretching from kent to cornwall. the met office says there'll be frequent, heavy and blustery showers throughout the day with the odd thunderstorm and 30 to 40mm of rainfall possible in coastal areas . this possible in coastal areas. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and now on your smart speaker. by and now on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's over to headliners . over to headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners your first look at saturday's newspapers . i'm saturday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle and tonight i'm joined by comedians lewis

schaffer and nick dixon . you schaffer and nick dixon. you both well well , well. i'll take both well well, well. i'll take that as a no. lewis there's something about. >> i wasn't expecting you to ask me that question. >> it's an english% >> it's an english% >> you should be used to it by now. you've been here a while. >> oh, it's wonderful. we're about to discuss some horrible, horrible but the. the >> well, yes, but the. the introduction doesn't have to be horrible. lewis >> oh, things are amazing. and now. okay, well, that's now. now war. okay, well, that's sort now. now war. okay, well, that's sonwrap that up. don't know >> wrap that up. i don't know what of that, nick, do you? >> that's great. i'm not going to have to say much on the show, i don't think. >> no, probably we're >> no, probably not. well, we're going to start with looking at the front covers for saturday. the running with the daily mail is running with sex the ruthless sex parties and the ruthless tory who make tory clique who secretly make and prime ministers. and then break prime ministers. that's of that's the serialisation of nadine the daily nadine doris's book, the daily telegraph with telegraph is running with bbc crisis 1.7 billion pension crisis over 1.7 billion pension bill for stars. the times chief rabbis protest at fears the i weekend is going election weekend is going with election boost labour as former tory boost for labour as former tory chancellor ken clarke backs rachel and the daily rachel reeves and the daily express. hate marches are a front to british values. we're going to get to that in just one

moment. the guardian is leading with israel. rules out ceasefire until those until hostages are freed. those were front pages . right. were your front pages. right. we're going to kick off with saturday's express. lewis, you've got this. >> yeah. sunak says, quote unquote, hate marches are an affront to british values . sunak affront to british values. sunak wants planned protest on armistice day, which is . armistice day, which is. >> that's sunday. >> that's sunday. >> sunday. >> sunday. >> so we should clarify what are the marches? who whose marching? >> it's the people supporting hamas. it's free palestine from the jews and they want to walk they want to parade past the centre graph centre , the centre graph centre, the cenotaph, the cenotaph , which is cenotaph, the cenotaph, which is the holiest of holies for the wards. of course , many of the wards. of course, many of the people marching on that day are saying that they're not pro hamas. >> they're saying that they are pro—palestine. you're saying there's no distinction in your mind? >> i think the net effect is the exact same thing. i haven't exact same thing. and i haven't heard. haven't heard from heard. i haven't heard much from anybody horrors that anybody about the horrors that happenedin anybody about the horrors that happened in israel and what and

what. >> well, yeah, i mean, it strikes me that if you're you know, if you are opposed to if you are for the people of palestine, the first thing you should do condemn hamas, should do is condemn hamas, because are obviously because they are obviously represent the biggest threat to those all sorts those people for all sorts of reasons. nick, is reasons. but nick, this is really about, i suppose it's about freedom of speech issue. i mean, assembly. we mean, a freedom of assembly. we have of people, have a group of people, they think get think they're trying to get a million people to march this pro—palestine march london, pro—palestine march in london, but deliberately , but it's deliberately, tactically planned to be on the same remembrance same day as remembrance sunday, which to going which is obviously to going cause most upset. so what do cause the most upset. so what do you do at that point? the implication of article is implication of this article is that to ban it, but that sunak wants to ban it, but but can't really. yeah. >> or he's urging people to be responsible lieu the responsible in lieu of the ability yeah. because ability to ban it. yeah. because how you actually ban it? how do you actually ban it? that's the thing. it's in bad taste. it's deliberately designed as much havoc designed to create as much havoc as said. and as possible, as you've said. and there's sense that some there's even a sense that some people are stirring up people perhaps are stirring up the side, the sort of patriot side, whatever you want to call them, saying, know, can't let saying, you know, you can't let this that's and even this stand. and that's and even people douglas have people like douglas murray have been on twitter been accused of that on twitter that, know, saying we can't

that, you know, saying we can't allow the problem allow this. but then the problem with is the average person with that is the average person comes out, does something stupid or or is framed be or is seen or is framed to be doing something on social doing something stupid on social media. the narrative media. and then the narrative turns against what's turns against them. so what's best probably is to not engage. >> it does like a potential >> it does feel like a potential powder keg, doesn't it? this kind of thing, you have kind of thing, when you have these of people and these numbers of people and they're antagonistic each they're all antagonistic to each other, lewis, other, you know. but lewis, i mean, you come from mean, you're you come from a free country. the united states of america, as pointed out, free country. the united states of fibestca, as pointed out, free country. the united states of fibest country pointed out, free country. the united states of fibest country in pointed out, free country. the united states of fibest country in poirworld. t, the best country in the world. why? but, yeah, you know, why? but but, yeah, you know, freedom assembly is freedom of assembly is important, if we disagree important, even if we disagree with what, not in a with the you know what, not in a time of war. >> i think habeas corpus comes in. i that's the term. in. i think that's the term. it's not in a time of war. we're in a time war right now. and in a time of war right now. and obviously think people obviously i don't think people realise that are going realise the wars that are going on. there's the big war, which is team world britain is team world against britain and the fact that and there's also the fact that there millions of people in there are millions of people in this country who hate this country. interesting. >> mean, lot people have >> i mean, a lot of people have said a lot. shocked said a lot. what shocked me about lot these sort of about a lot of these sort of pro—palestine gatherings is the open support not from open support for hamas, not from the should say, but

the majority, i should say, but from few, even if it's from a few, because even if it's a you know, if you if you a few, you know, if you if you most marches, if a few members of march saying of that march start saying outrageous, horrific things, everyone and everyone else shuts them up and distances themselves, that doesn't appear to have been happening here. >> no. and it's interesting what lewis a time war. lewis says about a time of war. isuppose lewis says about a time of war. i suppose the problem is it's not actually a formal war, but when zelenskyy, for when we saw zelenskyy, for example, sort of shut example, he did sort of shut down various democratic mechanisms during the war and people of people applauded it. but of course, a war, but course, this isn't a war, but it's a very tense situation, i have to say. i was in the car tonight on the way here and we had stop ages for had to stop for ages for a pro—palestine march to go by. and it pretty intimidating. and it is pretty intimidating. and it is pretty intimidating. and thinking they were and i was thinking they were chanting river the chanting from the river to the sea. and was merely sea. and i was merely infuriated. but i thought if i was person, i'd calm. was a jewish person, i'd calm. maybe also be somewhat maybe i would also be somewhat intimidated, quite reasonably. and massive and imagine that on a massive scale remembrance and scale on remembrance day. and i think are concerned think people are extra concerned because know in this because we already know in this country two tier country we have a two tier justice system. almost justice system. we're almost sick of saying it. christians can persecuted praying can be persecuted for praying in their white men their head. you know, white men can be discriminated against in

jobs, etcetera. but jobs, etcetera, etcetera. but now people shocked now i think people are shocked to happened to to see that it happened to jewish that if you if jewish people, that if you if you intimidate jewish people, the the the police will defend the people them. people intimidating them. i think think there's think that's i think there's a lack protection. that's why lack of protection. that's why people saying maureen lipman lack of protection. that's why people she's ng maureen lipman lack of protection. that's why people she's lessiaureen lipman lack of protection. that's why people she's less safe en lipman lack of protection. that's why people she's less safe in lipman is saying she's less safe in israel, feel less safe than israel. sorry london now less israel. sorry london is now less safe than israel. >> well, going to get on >> well, we're going to get on to that story bit on. >> well, we're going to get on to tiyeah,)ry bit on. >> well, we're going to get on to tiyeah, disturb. on. >> well, we're going to get on to tiyeah, disturb thing on. >> well, we're going to get on to tiyeah, disturb thing stuff. but yeah, disturb thing stuff. anyway, we're going to move on to guardian. the guardian anyway, we're going to move on to leading dian. the guardian anyway, we're going to move on to leading with the guardian anyway, we're going to move on to leading with anotherrrdian anyway, we're going to move on to leading with another israel are leading with another israel based what's one, based story. what's this one, nick? yeah this is israel rules out ceasefire until hostages are freed. >> blinken come us >> so blinken has come in. us secretary antony secretary of state antony blinken, he's urging a sort blinken, and he's urging a sort of temporary ceasefire. but netanyahu essentially netanyahu is essentially refusing the release refusing that until the release of by hamas. of more hostages by hamas. that's we are. that's pretty much where we are. there's issue of the there's also this issue of the ambulance. is saying ambulance. hamas is saying you've attacked an ambulance, israel saying was israel is saying that was housing terrorist cells being housing a terrorist cells being used hamas terrorist cell. used as a hamas terrorist cell. and you know, the classic and so, you know, the classic kind of things in war. so, yeah, that's going to get lot of that. >> i mean, especially since hamas have a have a policy of having their operations in civilian areas, in civilian buildings, using civilians as

human israel human shields. i mean, israel can't i mean, the point can't rule out i mean, the point is israel can't have a ceasefire until hostages are returned. until the hostages are returned. surely, know, people until the hostages are returned. surelywant know, people until the hostages are returned. surelywant aiow, people until the hostages are returned. surelywant a ceasefire ople until the hostages are returned. surelywant a ceasefire again, really want a ceasefire again, these demonstrations, if they really ceasefire, why really want a ceasefire, why don't they call on hamas to release the hostages? release all the hostages? because only because that's the only way that's well that's going to happen. well i think they do talk think sometimes they do talk about the hostages. >> of the time forget >> most of the time they forget about the about the hostages. the interesting is you interesting thing is, is you have is that you develop your fighting based your fighting style based on your enemy and what what's happened in the israelis have in israel is the israelis have developed their fighting style based their enemy is. and based on who their enemy is. and their enemy is a bit reckless with. i think that's what they do. >> i mean, but there is still not an a moral equivalence in my view. you have hamas who deliberately target and murder and rape and torture civilians and rape and torture civilians and you have israel that goes out of its way to avoid civilian casualties. that, to me suggests that there's just no moral equivalence there. and of course, civilians are going to die in war. that's what's going to it's absolutely to happen. it's absolutely horrible. and no one thinks that's thing.

that's a good thing. well, i think that moral think that this moral equivalence thing, just don't think that this moral edon't.ence thing, just don't think that this moral edon't know. hing, just don't i don't know. >> i with you and the >> i agree with you and the reason that what's happened reason that that what's happened is, israel has morphed is, is that israel has morphed the the jews the jews of israel, the jews have morphed this with a have morphed from this with a victim . so we're not victim attitude. so we're not going to take this stuff anymore. and it's sort of unseemly for the jews to be doing this . i think it's doing this. i think it's unexpected. and i think the palestinians are going, oh, look at us. we're vulnerable. and victims . and they've kind of victims. and so they've kind of changed as but a lot of changed position as but a lot of this stuff seems to be about narratives and, you know, and how this is played out. >> you have any further >> do you have any further thoughts, nick, or should we move on? >> em- move on? >> if you want >> we can move on if you want because i have thoughts, because i have more thoughts, but get me in more but i'll just get me in more trouble twitter. so well, trouble on twitter. so well, it's it. it's not worth it. >> move on. i want to protect you from your the swarm on twitter. we're going to move to on the front of saturday's on the front cover of saturday's telegraph. louis, about telegraph. louis, tell me about the you love the bbc for a change. you love the bbc. >> i would love bbc if they >> i would love the bbc if they gave a job, wouldn't you? gave me a job, wouldn't you? i would love the bbc if i got a pension from them and that's what the bbc's in. crisis over a

£1.7 what the bbc's in. crisis over a £1] billion pension bill for £1.7 billion pension bill for the stars they're paying 42% the stars and they're paying 42% of in pensions. of staff salaries in pensions. >> well, it's saying that within of staff salaries in pensions. >1decade it's saying that within of staff salaries in pensions. >1decade these ying that within of staff salaries in pensions. >1decade these these 1at within of staff salaries in pensions. >1decade these these pension n a decade these these pension bills have tripled. right so they really are rewarding . but they really are rewarding. but it's for the stars. we're talking about the stars here. we're not talking you we're not talking about, you know, clean the know, the people who clean the corridors. we're talking about the right? and the big names, right? yeah. and it's it's taxpayers money. >> it is a licence payers money, right? it's taxpayers. it's right? no, it's taxpayers. it's everybody's everybody has it. it's basically the bbc was licence out to spend money because people love the bbc. it's one of those sacred cows in this country the bbc, the nhs. well you don't treat it like a sacred cow, you milk it quite a lot. i would like to milk it. i don't get anything from them. what do you think, nick? >> i mean, obviously big stars expect big money, you know, that's the way it goes. but this does. i know. i do. you do. you do. but you know, you might have to bbc for that. to work for the bbc for that. but what do you think? >> well, i love the bbc, as you know. the problem is he's know. but the problem is he's a gold plated pensions. andrew,

imagine that gold gold plated pensions. andrew, irrcosting. that gold gold plated pensions. andrew, irrcosting. for that gold gold plated pensions. andrew, irrcosting. for a that gold gold plated pensions. andrew, irrcosting. for a start. that gold gold plated pensions. andrew, irrcosting. for a start. and: gold is costing. for a start. and it's costing £70 for every licence fee. payer and that's the problem. and also the big problem. and it's also a problem for bbc themselves problem for the bbc themselves because it's limiting the amount they can spend on actual content and don't want and services. so they don't want it either. i mean, you know, it's easy to attack the bbc from outside the bbc when you speak to it. of to people within it. a lot of them struggling as well. them are struggling as well. various programmes are being cut flagship so, know, flagship shows. so, you know, i hate sympathetic with the hate to be sympathetic with the bbc, it's great for them either. >> if the bbc has a problem though, it is their fault. yeah if a problem, if the bbc has a problem, there's simple solution is there's a simple solution is they sell themselves off. the they sell themselves off. is the government off? government sells them off? >> think it's probably >> well, i think it's probably going that way. i think the tv licence will probably gone. going that way. i think the tv licencokay. probably gone. going that way. i think the tv licencokay.finallyly gone. going that way. i think the tv licencokay. finally in gone. going that way. i think the tv licencokay. finally in this jne. yeah. okay. finally in this session look at session we're going to look at the cover of the daily the front cover of the daily mail. nick the details. mail. nick has got the details. yes, it's sex parties and the ruthless clique ruthless tory clique who secretly make break secretly make and then break prime ministers. >> and of course, such an elaborate headline. know, elaborate headline. i know, i know are all these know there are all these elaborate ones because they're coming bombshell book. andrew dorries bombshell book. andrew you talk the book you can't talk about the book without bombshell. no without saying bombshell. no

absolutely. really absolutely. and they're really milking mail. this milking it in the mail. this is going to on for about 18 going to go on for about 18 weeks it's her claim is all weeks and it's her claim is all nadine, it's basically nadine, is that it's basically they brought down iain duncan, smith they caused smith and johnson. they caused habit may they habit for theresa may they undermine truss. and it's undermine liz truss. and it's quite funny, some of it was dominic cummings. saw her on dominic cummings. i saw her on twitter. he being asked twitter. now he was being asked by journalist for more by a male journalist for more details he said, yeah, yeah, details and he said, yeah, yeah, there's a the they're there's a cia, the kgb. they're all they just all involved. and they just said, they'll said, thank you. so they'll probably print yeah, yeah. probably print that. yeah, yeah. >> but nadine dorries, i mean, she's know always had a book she's know she always had a book at end of of this. oh at the end of all of this. oh yeah.i at the end of all of this. oh yeah. i mean, this is called in the the political the plot the political assassination borisjohnson. assassination of boris johnson. really know assassination of boris johnson. real nadine know assassination of boris johnson. real nadine dorries know assassination of boris johnson. realnadine dorries is know assassination of boris johnson. realnadine dorries is basically that nadine dorries is basically in with boris johnson at in love with boris johnson at thiswell, that. and she >> well, there is that. and she says in a desperate says they're in a desperate attempt to block her book. but i'm the book's details i'm thinking the book's details can't any worse than the can't be any worse than the actual whatsapps we've already seen. it's enough actual whatsapps we've already seei description t's enough actual whatsapps we've already seeidescriptiont's michaelugh actual whatsapps we've already seeidescriptiont's michael gove her description of michael gove is that he binds all the dark arts people together. >> she's going arts people together. >> the she's going arts people together. >> the shakespeare going arts people together. >> the shakespeare and going arts people together. >> the shakespeare and gove. for the shakespeare and gove. >> love that. >> love that. >> of n >> love that. >> of i mean, >> exactly. of course. i mean, that's great. >> i that wrote that? >> was that i that wrote that? >> was that i that wrote that? >> well. the whole book >> well. well the whole book goes kevin spacey

goes basically like kevin spacey in house of cards by that description. malcolm in house of cards by that descripor n. malcolm in house of cards by that descripor something malcolm in house of cards by that descripor something malthat. tucker or something like that. but, it's like then secretly but, but it's like then secretly then break ministers like then break prime ministers like that's this country. >> i mean of course it's always behind the scenes. >> absolutely. >> of course it is. absolutely. read it read your shakespeare. it happens time. yeah. happens all the time. yeah. okay. it part okay. well that is it for part one. but up in part two, one. but coming up in part two, mps people to go away, mps telling people to go away, mps telling people to go away, mps letting people some mps letting people in, and some breathtaking

us to that position. you're listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. and welcome back to headliners, your first look at saturday's newspapers . newspapers. >> i'm andrew doyle still here with lewis schaefer and nick dixon, let's carry on with dixon, so let's carry on with the stories. to the stories. moving on to saturday's mail now. concern turns observing a two turns that observing a two minute might be too minute silence might be too dangerous veteran. dangerous for a war veteran. nick , this labour run nick yeah, this is labour run council is slammed for cancelling remembrance day cancelling its remembrance day parade and safety concerns. >> it's barry town council in south wales and they've cited unresolved health and safety considerations . and there's talk considerations. and there's talk

that someone injured themselves quite badly in 2018. so it's not clear how that's related. so people are calling it a feeble excuse and pointing out they put £8,000 into a pride event. excuse and pointing out they put £8,000 into a pride event . so £8,000 into a pride event. so the suspicion is you're merely worried about unrest and dealing with it in a kind of fairly feeble way and capitulating and just not having the event. yes. >> so lots of suspicions here, aren't there? what do you think, lewis? >> well, whole article does >> well, the whole article does not kind of unrest. not mention what kind of unrest. yes, i mean, what is the kind of unrest doesn't. no, it doesn't imply it. it doesn't say anything about the type. why would they unrest the remembrance? well, because we're in a state of war right now. and these people represent an earlier time and a real an england. you know, i don't know what whatever side you're on, you might you might be against it or you might be in favour of it. >> louis sounds like like the ultimate english patriot now. yeah, it's the same yeah, of course. it's the same reason in first reason we discussed in the first section. are going to section. tensions are going to kick barry town kick off and they barry town want to avoid it and it's going to worse in central london,

to be worse in central london, but it's going to be in barry town as well. >> strange, doesn't it, >> seems so strange, doesn't it, to parades to involve remembrance parades in in a current conflict in in this in a current conflict in the doesn't seem the middle? it doesn't seem strange the middle? it doesn't seem streand been saying it for >> and i've been saying it for a while. there is a war going on. there are a couple wars going there are a couple of wars going on. the big war, which on. there's the big war, which is world against team is team world against team britain and patriotism of team britain and patriotism of team britain of the team britain and part of the team world thing is the palestine issue. team world is against ethno states. they're in favour of multi culturalism. >> still don't really know what you team world. you mean by team world. >> mean team world is >> what i mean by team world is that the individual powers that have made up this world and the people who are in favour of team world are against those powers. >> they're probably pro ethno states, but the right kind of ethno states. >> i mean, that sounds that sounds as vague would. >> well, look, i mean, lewis is right. i hate to say it. i mean, you know, when people are desecrating monuments and planting things, planting flags on things, that does warlike gesture. >> it sounds like a civilizational it sounds civilizational thing. it sounds like who are opposed like people who are opposed to. but what what but explain what team what team world lewis just means

>> well, lewis just means that you've you've to sort you've got to you've got to sort of got the western of you've got the western alliance got alliance and then you've got to sort of of uprising of the sort of sort of uprising of the global south, plus others, the kind of the islamic world. >> and a kind of we're >> and we're in a kind of we're in a conflict where some of us are trying to maintain the old western liberal alliance, which are trying to maintain the old westereurope,l alliance, which are trying to maintain the old westereurope, israel, ice, which is like europe, israel, the united states, etcetera. anglosphere versus the sort of new, know , perhaps china, new, you know, perhaps china, russia, . russia, iran. >> if you talk about the forces of liberalism against the forces >> if you talk about the forces of authoritarianism,t the forces >> if you talk about the forces of authoritarianism,t canforces of authoritarianism, i can certainly with certainly get on board with that. certainly get on board with tha no, not quite as simple. >> no, it's not quite as simple. >> no, it's not quite as simple. >> not. >> it's not. >> it's not. >> that's why he's come up with his own. actually, it's actually a genius this. a genius for this. >> going to understand >> i'm never going to understand it. move to next it. so let's move on to the next story. this in the eye now. story. this is in the eye now. another day, another tory in trouble. >> this part >> lewis well, this is part of the whole story. tory mp the whole same story. tory mp bob the mp from bob stewart. he's the mp from beckenham and he is he is beckenham and he is he, he is guilty racially abusing an guilty of racially abusing an activist to go by activist by telling him to go by telling to go to bahrain. >> so did he say this? >> so why did he say this? i mean, he seems needlessly provocative me. provocative to me. >> well, i think the guys from bahrain, stewart , bahrain, this guy, bob stewart, say go back to new york. say to you, go back to new york. >> is well, i've been called say to you, go back to new york.

>> been well, i've been called say to you, go back to new york. >> been said i've been called say to you, go back to new york. >> been said that been called say to you, go back to new york. >> been said that go en called say to you, go back to new york. >> been said that go back.led say to you, go back to new york. >> been said that go back toi america. >> go back. i've had that said to me in dulles. well, to me i was in dulles. well, maybe you should. somebody maybe you should. and somebody just me, i mean, just shouted out at me, i mean, this on. but the this this goes on. but the reason why this is so egregious is he's basically in cahoots as bob stewart's with the bahraini regime . and he was outside going regime. and he was outside going into the bahraini thing and somebody who'd been tortured by the bahraini s, which he didn't know to be, which he didn't, he didn't know, he didn't know. he said , how much did you did you said, how much did you did you sell yourself for that? so it was like an insult. sell yourself for that? so it was like an insult . the sell yourself for that? so it was like an insult. the bahraini guy insulted him in a there's a backstory to this. >> there's quite a backstory. >> there's quite a backstory. >> so but what about this, nick? >> so but what about this, nick? >> i mean, some of the >> i mean, i mean, some of the comments here go away. i hate you. i mean, shut up, you stupid man. mean, just the man. i mean, that's just the rough tumble of political rough and tumble of political conflict, but, but, conflict, isn't it? but, but, but i mean. but this goes back to i mean. no, no . no, no, no. >> it's misrepresented, really. if you watch the video, which i have one thing, bob have immediately. one thing, bob stewart is bahrain's stewart says is bahrain's a great place . so he's actually stewart says is bahrain's a grea'proace . so he's actually stewart says is bahrain's a grea'pro bahrain. le's actually stewart says is bahrain's a grea'pro bahrain. so actually stewart says is bahrain's a grea'pro bahrain. so it's ually stewart says is bahrain's a grea'pro bahrain. so it's noty very pro bahrain. so it's not

consistent to say go back to bahrain hates bahrain bahrain as if he hates bahrain is denigrating bahrain because he's it's great he's saying it's a great place. that's then it's that's how he starts. then it's harder this bit because harder to hear this bit because it's a back and forth. but the guy it by saying, guy starts it by saying, how much sell yourself to much did you sell yourself to the and so the bahraini regime for? and so then stewart just then he obviously stewart just goes back at him a fairly goes back at him in a fairly fairly sort of low, you know, not nasty way. fairly sort of low, you know, not the nasty way. fairly sort of low, you know, not the prosecutorasty way. fairly sort of low, you know, not the prosecutor is:y way. fairly sort of low, you know, not the prosecutor is saying even the prosecutor is saying it's motivated racial it's not motivated by racial hostility right? just hostility. right? it's just a back and but the guy back and forth. but the guy is doing have he's doing what we have now. he's saying, look, my i was humiliated and upset. and humiliated and felt upset. and as now, no, it's all as we know now, no, it's all about victim but about how the victim feels. but what stewart's pain? what about mr stewart's pain? who's you know, i'm who's saying, you know, i'm deeply have to appear in deeply hurt to have to appear in court for this. so what about that? >> but mean, says that he's >> but i mean, it says that he's been guilty racially been found guilty of racially abusing and the abusing an activist and at the same judge says it's same time, the judge says it's not racially motivated. >> yes, it was it was not motivated by racial hostility, merely demonstrating it, which is strange distinction. is a very strange distinction. that his that is strange. it's as if his words were in themselves, words were racist in themselves, but intention but without the intention of being. but without the intention of beingdon't you can be >> i don't think you can be racist without the intention of being. >> no, don't so either. >> no, i don't think so either. really >> no, i don't think so either. reaanyway, we're to >> anyway, okay, we're going to move to the daily mail. move on now to the daily mail. nick about opening move on now to the daily mail.

nick up about opening move on now to the daily mail. nick up north?bout opening borders up north? >> yeah, so snp is accused of trying to distract party trying to distract from party meltdown to an meltdown as it vows to allow an independent to ramp up independent scotland to ramp up immigration reintroduce eu independent scotland to ramp up immmovement reintroduce eu independent scotland to ramp up imm movement reint keeping u independent scotland to ramp up imm movement reint keeping the free movement while keeping the border open with england. so it's just a kind of fairy tale story that scotland are telling just something to do. just for something to do. they're if it does leave they're saying if it does leave the is a big if, the uk, which is a big if, they'll have perfect free movement but movement with the eu, but they'll have like a great they'll also have like a great border with england and they're just all just saying it'll all work. >> it's not like >> i mean, it's not like we haven't seen these problems in northern ireland, right? >> be >> right. in reality it'll be much difficult. yeah. but much more difficult. yeah. but they're it'll all be they're just saying it'll all be great any proof. they're just saying it'll all be gre i: any proof. they're just saying it'll all be grei don't any proof. they're just saying it'll all be grei don't understand f. they're just saying it'll all be grei don't understand why >> i don't understand why scotland, particular, >> i don't understand why scotgroup particular, >> i don't understand why scotgroup people particular, >> i don't understand why scotgroup people partwant', this group of people who want scottish independence, also want to the thumb to be under the thumb of brussels or completely brussels or it's completely incoherent or are they incoherent why they or are they so arrogant that they want to let anybody the country? let in anybody into the country? >> happened to >> that's what happened to britain of this britain in sort of this arrogance that you could in arrogance that you could let in millions of people and everything fine. everything is going to be fine. you can't do it. and what you can't do it. and that's what that's have . that's the team they have. they're team they're obsessed with the team world . it's all one world attitude. it's all one world. all one people. world. we're all one people. we'll all live together. kumbaya. >> well, not with the english,

though. they want to be very, very selfish from us, although they border. they do want an open border. >> can't have all >> so you can't have it all ways, you? well, they can. ways, can you? well, they can. >> in this hypothetical scenario, they've outlined and according to this this this article, on article, people are turning on the losing 21% the snp that they're losing 21% are to labour no , i are switching to labour no, i mean they really are. >> and hasn't >> and labour hasn't had a foothold scotland for long foothold in scotland for a long time, things are time, but maybe things are starting there, which starting to change there, which will because the starting to change there, which will really because the starting to change there, which will really i because the starting to change there, which will really i mean because the starting to change there, which will really i mean scotlandthe snp really i mean scotland has been a one party state been a kind of a one party state for far too long and the snp have much power so a bit have had so much power so a bit of competition is healthy, right? that's a pity that right? yeah, that's a pity that it's are awful. it's labour who are also awful. well, competition better well, any competition is better than would say perhaps. than none. i would say perhaps. yeah. going stick yeah. okay. i'm going to stick with daily mail with the saturday's daily mail now. a story now. lewis and this is a story about treating cancer. what's this this is so much this about? well this is so much for cancer. for the war on cancer. >> oncologist accuses >> top oncologist accuses government breathtaking government of breathtaking incompetence three state of government of breathtaking inc(art etence three state of government of breathtaking inc(art treatment three state of government of breathtaking inc(art treatment centres state of government of breathtaking inc(art treatment centres remain the art treatment centres remain unused. was a private unused. so it was a private company who owned the cancer treatment centres. a couple of years back in redding, northumberland and newport , and northumberland and newport, and then they went out of business as a private company and so

other doctors are saying, hey, to the to the nhs , get these to the to the nhs, get these three cancer centres online because why wouldn't they be? >> i mean, particularly during the pandemic when , you know, the pandemic when, you know, there were all sorts of problems with cancer treatment people with cancer treatment and people waiting and they waiting for treatment and they couldn't it, you know, of couldn't get it, you know, of course they should be pouring money well, money into these sorts of, well, i i can't i couldn't i don't know, i can't i couldn't figure out why. >> maybe nick knows >> there's maybe nick knows why they're used. but my they're not being used. but my gut feeling is, is that being an oncologist myself is cancer is the least effective . lee the least effective. lee medicated , treated disease. medicated, treated disease. >> oh, i mean, it's terrible. people there are all sorts of waiting lists. yeah. people, as it says in the article there, hospitals are struggling . only hospitals are struggling. only 63% of patients starting cancer care within two months of an urgent referral. that's dangerous. >> that's not what i'm talking about. i'm saying the actual care deadly. radiology chemotherapy. >> this is where you go into medical as an i'm going to tell

you what an oncologist, lewis you know what? >> i know more, more than most, the single thing you can do. >> we have you here out of pity. >> we have you here out of pity. >> i'll take it is to cut back on the sugar. the sugar is the thing that makes the cancer grow. we're going to be getting to sugar in the next part coming up. >> in fact, we're going to be talking about the latest on the culture battle the culture wars, the battle of the sexes, lewis's favourite sexes, and lewis's favourite topic, grappling sugar.

something goes wrong, it's on suella or the police that isn't true leadership. rishi welcome back to headliners. >> your first look at saturday's newspapers. we're going to start this section with the mirror. nick this accusation i keep heanng nick this accusation i keep hearing it. mps manufacturing , hearing it. mps manufacturing, culture wars. i get sick of this, but talk to us about it anyway. >> yeah, it is annoying because they're not doing >> yeah, it is annoying because they'ibut not doing >> yeah, it is annoying because they'ibut voters not doing >> yeah, it is annoying because they'ibut voters accuse)ing >> yeah, it is annoying because they'ibut voters accuse mps of that. but voters accuse mps of manufacturing culture wars to distract failings. this distract from failings. and this is college, london's is the king's college, london's policy which has policy institute, which has examined people feel about examined how people feel about this. it's also how they this. but it's also how they feel about being called woke .

feel about being called woke. and this is interesting because 42% admit being described 42% admit that being described as be insult as woke would be an insult now. well, 36% in 2022 well, it was only 36% in 2022 and 24% in 2020. so that's a big change. but the other part is that 56% are saying politicians only talk about this stuff. culture war stuff to distract from real issues. and that's where i completely obviously disagree, but that's mad. i mean, you're either ignorant if you or your heads in you think that or your heads in the sand. you're hoping the culture away or culture war will go away or you're for sort you're just falling for a sort of gaslighting of leftists who pretend war. pretend there's no culture war. >> the people who >> is it just the people who don't know? >> i said. >> that's what i said. ignorance. mirror might >> that's what i said. igno also 3. mirror might >> that's what i said. ignoalso be mirror might >> that's what i said. ignoalso be ha'ror might >> that's what i said. igno also be ha'ror of ght just also be putting a bit of a spin on it because they could have gone with a different headune have gone with a different headline people headline that most people don't want of people want to be called. 42% of people don't to called woke, don't want to be called woke, which big takeaway which is the other big takeaway from this, although that's quite encouraging know, encouraging because, you know, wokeness movement. authoritarian movement. >> i think people not wanting to be is quite be called authoritarian is quite reassuring. absolutely. be called authoritarian is quite reassuring. not absolutely. be called authoritarian is quite reassuring. not nicelutely. be called authoritarian is quite reassuring. not nice thing. be called authoritarian is quite rea:g0'ing. not nice thing. be called authoritarian is quite rea:g0'ing. ncwh01ice thing. be called authoritarian is quite rea:g0'ing. ncwh01ice those >> go on. but who are those people who don't want to be called woke? it could just be people be people who don't want to be called woke. other called woke. but the other people, non 42% would people, the non 42% that would consider it a compliment. well,

this is what worries me. >> i mean, the stats in this, it talks 21% men say talks about 21% of men say they're anti—woke 10% of women. talks about 21% of men say they' means-woke 10% of women. talks about 21% of men say they' means most 10% of women. talks about 21% of men say they' means most of % of women. talks about 21% of men say they' means most of % ocountryl. that means most of the country is authoritarian because is pro authoritarian ism because to anti—woke just means to me, anti—woke just means being like so i mean , i being liberal. like so i mean, i don't mean, maybe it's that don't i mean, maybe it's that people these people don't know what these words that's what you think. >> no, that's what you think. but what woke really what woke is minds of someone who is in the minds of someone who is in the minds of someone who is caring . is woke is caring. >> yeah, that's right. they've fallen that , which is incredible. >> i mean, like the idea that woke . woke woke. >> people are the only people who care. no, there are also liberals other liberals who care about other people. you know, don't people. you know, they don't people. you know, they don't people all support the people don't all support the idea of censorship of opponents in to shut them up in the in order to shut them up in the name of compassion. >> yeah, but it's so it's up from 24, right. in three years to and that's amongst people to 42. and that's amongst people who then there's who will admit it. then there's all wouldn't dare all the actors who wouldn't dare admit wouldn't want to be admit they wouldn't want to be called woke the people called woke and all the people lying. you know what i mean? so i think that is encouraging, but it isn't it, when it is annoying, isn't it, when people say, the tories or people say, oh, the tories or the just concocting the mps are just concocting a culture war? >> as can see, they >> as far as i can see, they haven't done enough about it,

right? they needed make exactly. >> failed to tackle the >> they failed to tackle the existing war. exactly. completely >> incomplete >> but this story is incomplete because who are >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who are >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who who are >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who think who are >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who think woke) are >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who think woke isii'e >> but this story is incomplete becepeople who think woke is bad the people who think woke is bad or woke is if only if. 42% or woke is good. if only if. 42% of the people think that i'm repeating myself. think that woke. that woke is bad , right? >> at least you remember that you're repeating yourself when you're repeating yourself when you start saying the same thing in show and you realise in the same show and you realise it. well, this the problem is this is also team world is this is also team world woke is team world. the thing about this stuff like, i get sick stuff is like, i get sick because i've explained woke anti—woke endlessly. done anti—woke endlessly. i've done monologues about it, i've written books about it. people still it means. still don't know what it means. it's i may well it's like i may as well not bother. >> and i think, what >> i know. and i think, what about the positive? do. about the positive? they do. they are very gradually realising, show . realising, as the stats show. that's writing that's true. keep writing several books. several more books. >> are coming around. >> maybe . or maybe the >> maybe. or maybe that the reason why people are reason why more people are anti—woke now is because more people know what it means . yes, people know what it means. yes, three people know what it means. yes, thr(that's probably is . >> that's probably what it is. >> that's probably what it is. >> is the worst >> this is one of the worst poorly written stories. okay? >> it's it's the mirror. >> it's the it's the mirror. >> it's the it's the mirror. >> it's the mirror. we'll let them. let off daily

them. we'll let them off daily mail. lewis, what's this one mail. now lewis, what's this one about? ex—bbc present? >> what's this one? 56 years old. close to my age . says she old. close to my age. says she is yet to get over discovering she was being paid tens of thousands pounds than she was being paid tens of th0|males pounds than she was being paid tens of th0|male counterparts. than she was being paid tens of th0|male counterparts. andlan she was being paid tens of th0|male counterparts. and so her male counterparts. and so this woman ritula shah, she worked for 35 years for the bbc and she's she was paid £700,000 less than jeremy vine. >> no , i think no, i don't think >> no, i think no, i don't think that's right. >> no, i think no, i don't think that's right . the articles about that's right. the articles about ritula shah, who is upset because she found out she was getting paid less than presenters who were sort of comparable, but it comes in the wake of another scandal which was samira ahmed yeah, who won an tribunal and found an employment tribunal and found out was getting paid out she was getting paid £700,000 jeremy. out she was getting paid £7c okay,) jeremy. out she was getting paid £7cokay,) but jeremy. out she was getting paid £7c okay,) but this remy. out she was getting paid £7cokay,) but this woman >> okay, but, but this woman mentioned yeah yeah. mentioned it. yeah yeah. >> and this woman mentioned it. >> and this woman mentioned it. >> she's thinking she >> and this woman mentioned it. >> have; thinking she >> and this woman mentioned it. >> have gotten ng she >> and this woman mentioned it. >> have gotten ng similar could have gotten paid a similar amount. >> the similar amount, >> well, not the similar amount, but amount. but a comparable amount. but the thing isn't vine more thing is, isn't jeremy vine more famous? problem with all famous? and the problem with all of stuff is actually when of this stuff is actually when it comes to sort of presenters and, and public figures like that, they're all getting whatever can whatever money their agent can

get and they're at get for them and they're all at different it's not different levels. it's not really you do, you really about the job you do, you know? no i've got a sneaking suspicion. >> emily maitlis was on more than me when she was at the bbc. just for example. yeah, it's. yeah, really one yeah, it's not really about one thing though, it is about how thing is though, it is about how much prepare for as much you prepare to ask for as well. and there is an well. yeah. and there is an argument men apparently, argument that men apparently, you are prepared ask you know, are prepared to ask for statistics . they'll ask for more statistics. they'll ask and woman on the side and the woman on the other side of that i did a job where of that where i did a job where a woman joined and got way more than and turned she than me and it turned out she just knew to of just knew how to sort of negotiate ask it. negotiate and ask for it. she later sacked i got later got sacked and i got a raise, that doesn't matter. raise, but that doesn't matter. the point is, yeah, i agree with you, andrew. is. it's you, andrew. it is. it is. it's not it's one not generated. it's in that one sense that men can sometimes be more bolshie. there was an example recently where someone was call in was not being paid for a call in and the other person was and it was a man and the woman was not being paid. that's because often with things, with those kind of things, unless won't unless you ask, they won't mention but if you ask, mention a fee. but if you ask, then be then there may be one. >> yeah, which what she said. >> yeah, which is what she said. >> yeah, which is what she said. >> so different in the >> it's so different in the media because obviously, you know, working know, if we were both working at a and was getting

a call centre and i was getting paid for exactly paid more than you for exactly the job, well that would be the same job, well that would be illegal actually, wouldn't it? you the idea of you know, so the, the idea of paying you know, so the, the idea of paying genders, paying different genders, different illegal. paying different genders, differ( it's illegal. paying different genders, differ(it's for. illegal. paying different genders, differ(it's for. illegal illegal. paying different genders, differ(it's for. illegal no, legal. >> if it's for. illegal no, if it's if it's based on gender. but if it's based on gender. but if it's not based on gender, like. >> no. the same work. i >> no, no. the same work. i don't think they can get away with don't think they can get away witiwell, if you were high >> well, if you were a high performing and getting bonus, >> well, if you were a high perf(would and getting bonus, >> well, if you were a high perf(would an|different. bonus, >> well, if you were a high per exactly. an|different. bonus, >> well, if you were a high perexactly.an|dif'but1t. bonus, >> well, if you were a high per exactly. an|dif'but1t don'tlus, >> exactly. yeah. but i don't think this is the case, that it's the whoever the think this is the case, that it's or the whoever the think this is the case, that it's or whoeverthe whoever the think this is the case, that it's or whoever isz whoever the think this is the case, that it's or whoever is paying'er the think this is the case, that it's or whoever is paying mene bbc or whoever is paying men more women matter more than women as a matter of principle. almost principle. in fact, i'm almost certainly the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe said the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe said she the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe said she did the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe said she did not the principle. in fact, i'm almost certaishe said she did not ask case. she said she did not ask for it. >> what she said. it's >> that's what she said. it's not fault. yeah is. i not her fault. yeah it is. i would say that's her fault. but i it's like. all i know what it's like. we all know company. let's know to work at a company. let's say first person say you weren't the first person in let's say it's a tv in the door. let's say it's a tv programme that does the news or something. and there were other people getting something. and there were other peopl(you getting something. and there were other peopl(you asking getting something. and there were other peopl(you asking for getting something. and there were other peopl(you asking for a getting something. and there were other peopl(you asking for a wayjetting something. and there were other peopl(you asking for a way more. about you asking for a way more. i'm has no, it has i'm not saying it has no, it has nothing do with me. that's nothing to do with me. that's what this is about. >> i told you we can't >> louis, i told you we can't afford what asked >> louis, i told you we can't aff(was, what asked >> louis, i told you we can't aff(was, frankly,1at asked >> louis, i told you we can't aff(was, frankly, unrealistic. ed for was, frankly, unrealistic. okay and okay the independent now and a story success story explaining the success of your story explaining the success of you nick, you? this is >> nick, how dare you? this is sexist. podcast sexist. and which podcast by? because to sexist because i have to sexist comments on tiktok more liked than ones. is than non sexist ones. this is a study and it's someone's gone

through it. i mean let's face it a woman's through a woman's gone through and studied already studied this so it's already there's of the kind there's an example of the kind of sexist comments who would go through who else would go through who else would go through indeed, thought through. indeed, i thought i should i should have left lewis schaffer that hope schaffer to say that i hope it was it anyway, on was a man. it was anyway, on average, sexist comments received 604 right? received 604 likes. right? compared those compared to 375. for those not considered sexist. and men were liking more sexist comments. but crucially , both genders made the crucially, both genders made the same kind of sexist comments. it's just that men liked them more. >> well, also what qualifies as a sexist comment? i a sexist comment? because i don't know , always. sometimes don't know, always. sometimes people this wrong . sometimes people get this wrong. sometimes people get this wrong. sometimes people as people interpret things as sexist when they're sexist. sexist when they're not sexist. lewis, hand , i lewis, on the other hand, i mean, things you say mean, most of the things you say genuinely sexist. genuinely are sexist. >> and think what they're >> and i think what they're talking sexual talking about is maybe sexual comments btec what they mean. no, know. you don't know no, i don't know. you don't know where word where they use the word sexist comments, but didn't give an example sexist comment. >> what's the point of this article? is tiktok is the article? there is tiktok is the wild you like some wild west, you know, like some of woke , but of generation 2 are woke, but some are just absolutely some of them are just absolutely non—woke . some of them are just absolutely norand ke . go on tiktok, it's >> and if you go on tiktok, it's like humour. like really sort of edgy humour. they're really extreme. >> of them.

>> some of them. >> some of them. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. and is >> yeah, yeah, yeah. and this is comments like comments on challenges like the cake challenge, focuses cake challenge, which focuses on the person's bottom by the size of a person's bottom by seeing if a weightlifting bar will them. so that's will roll over them. so that's the context . if you're the context. so if you're commenting already commenting on that, it's already probably not going be great, probably not going to be great, is not going is it? yeah, it's not going to be on that to be comment on that is going to sound not to be about sound it's not going to be about hegel something. sound it's not going to be about heglt's something. sound it's not going to be about heglt's som t0|ing. sound it's not going to be about heglt's som to bej. sound it's not going to be about heglt's som to be well, >> it's going to be well, i mean, it'd be quite stretch. mean, it'd be quite a stretch. okay, on the okay, let's move on to the telegraph now. lewis, can we still census pansexual still trust the census pansexual population is hugely inflated. >> it was usually inflated in >> is it was usually inflated in census by faulty coding. and this is this is the british census takers, which is the office of national statistics statistics. right. >> and they found there were £110,000 asexual people. apparently there's only 48,000. only 40 still seems quite a lot to me . to me. >> and what exactly is a pansexual is someone who likes frying pans. maybe someone who gets being in the kitchen? >> well, no, it's someone who's attracted to all gender identities. yeah identities. is a bisexual. yeah >> thought bisexuals were >> no, i thought bisexuals were like green. >> nothing. it's a nothing way for get on the

for people to get on the grievance to of grievance hierarchy to sort of say, aren't oppressed? say, oh, aren't i oppressed? no, you're give you're not oppressed. yeah. give it a break. >> or it a break. » m >> or maybe or maybe they're like any kind of like desperate for any kind of sex whatsoever. they'll look at any of them. >> there bisexual people. >> there are bisexual people. you don't need special you don't need your special category. to cut category. they just want to cut pathetic.are category. they just want to cut pathetic. are so category. they just want to cut pathetic.are so angry with >> why are you so angry with pansexual? i feel pansexual? pointless. i feel offended. on of the offended. on behalf of the pansexual community. >> is, care >> whatever it is, i don't care what call themselves. what people call themselves. i just. this is new book. just. this is your new book. >> pansexual andrew doyle >> i hate pansexual andrew doyle best author. yeah best selling author. yeah i mean, one thing. the last time they of and the they did one of these and the numbers like, trans people numbers of, like, trans people seem high. turned out seem really high. it turned out it language barrier, it was just a language barrier, and people didn't know and a lot of people didn't know what being asked. so that's what was being asked. so that's a because although what was being asked. so that's a correctedse although what was being asked. so that's a corrected it although what was being asked. so that's a corrected it down|gh what was being asked. so that's a corrected it down to they they corrected it down to 48,000, still pretty for 48,000, that's still pretty for high doesn't exist. high a thing that doesn't exist. >> is. i mean, it's a >> yeah, it is. i mean, it's a bit like i wouldn't speak like that because going to that because we're going to get all problems. all sorts of problems. >> joking. >> i was joking. >> i was joking. >> exists. i support >> i think it exists. i support the community against the pansexual community against people and how the pansexual community against people is and how the pansexual community against people is different and how the pansexual community against people is different from and how exactly is it different from bisexual then? because they fancy the fancy everything but here's the thing, aren't attracted to >> people aren't attracted to the other people the way that other people identify see themselves, and identify or see themselves, and people are attracted to other people are attracted to other people right? idea of people, right? so the idea of being attracted someone's

being attracted to someone's gender makes absolutely gender identity makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. >> was the guy, wasn't >> pan was the goat guy, wasn't he? was attracted man he? pan was attracted to man goats . goats. >> yeah. i mean, maybe that's what it's meant all along in which case i retract my criticism because that is a legitimate okay. legitimate sexuality. okay. we're on to we're going to move on now to this story, which is in the mirror. what's this one about lewis car story? oh, no. this is a this is a stephen fry story. and you met stephen fry, didn't you? >> no, did meet stephen fry. you? >> introduced eet stephen fry. you? >> introduced me stephen fry. you? >> introduced me to zphen fry. you? >> introduced me to stephen'. you? >> introduced me to stephen fry you introduced me to stephen fry because fantastic tv because we did a fantastic tv show that andrew produced completely wasted that you weren't in the programme. he should have been in the programme have programme in it. you should have been. because you're been. no, because you're an expert these kind of things. i prefer the puppet m aster. >> that master. >> that true ? i don't think so. >> yeah, i think so. i don't think anyway, so the show think so. anyway, so the show is so headline is the so the headline anyway is the headune so the headline anyway is the headline fry says headline is stephen fry says this started this addictive impulse started quote unquote addictive impulse started with sweets and developed into a cocaine addiction, which is some kind of video. well, we have got a clip . video. well, we have got a clip. let's have a look. let's have a look. >> his addiction had this empty hole vast empty hole

hole in me, this vast empty hole that feed me. i need this that said feed me. i need this sugan that said feed me. i need this sugar. i need it. and then when it wasn't sugar, it became tobacco. and i smoked. and then in my 20s , it became cocaine. it in my 20s, it became cocaine. it became that i just. and i couldn't sit still without going. ha >> so that's a clip from the dinosaur hour, which is on every week. that's show. the stephen fry show is going to be on this sunday on gb news at 9:00. lewis is a mooching around in the background serving drinks and that thing . that kind of thing. >> to become a big >> i'm expected to become a big star. happen, star. it didn't happen, andrew. sorry about that. >> is interesting, isn't sorry about that. >>what is interesting, isn't sorry about that. >>what stephen esting, isn't sorry about that. >>what stephen fry ng, isn't sorry about that. >>what stephen fry saysn't sorry about that. >>what stephen fry says that it, what stephen fry says that he's talking about the sort of slippery slope idea? no, he's yeah, that was a yeah, he said that when he was a kid, him sweets kid, they were giving him sweets shaped cigarettes, like shaped like cigarettes, like white powder, like sherbet. and it of . we all had this. it sort of. we all had this. >> had cigarettes . >> we all had cigarettes. >> we all had cigarettes. >> the cigarette sweets >> we saw the cigarette sweets and bottle , sweets and the beer bottle, sweets and all sort stuff. all of that sort of stuff. i just clip, what's just say about that clip, what's happened there is he says, i went tobacco went from sweets to tobacco to cocaine his income has gone up. cocaine. his income has gone up. is happened he's is what's happened there. he's got successful got more successful. >> every >> right. and that's every single person. if you go to any

addict in the world, they all started with sweets because every child has sweets. >> so, no, powell starts with heroin and gets onto sweets. he started having an addictive personality, started having an addictive per you lity, started having an addictive peryou know , and that's that >> you know, and that's that kind thing. everyone's kind of thing. everyone's addicted kind of thing. everyone's achverybody's kind of thing. everyone's adc everybody's to >> everybody's addicted to sugan >> everybody's addicted to sugar. addicted to sugar. everybody's addicted to cocaine. had chance. cocaine. if they had a chance. it's not it's one of those i'm not addicted cocaine. they addicted to cocaine. no, they would be if it was free and it was would was available, people would do it. do it. yes. i'm it. and they did do it. yes. i'm speaking for myself for and everyone. the everyone. you're addicted to the truth addictive. it truth is, sugar is addictive. it raises it raises your uric acid level , which which turns off the level, which which turns off the mitochondria . yeah. which which mitochondria. yeah. which which stops the leptons from telling the body to stop. >> are they flowers? >> are they flowers? >> sounds like the phantom menace. you're talking about mitochondria he's making menace. you're talking about mitociupdria he's making menace. you're talking about mitociup .ria he's making words up. >> he does this every whenever he starts blathering on about biology. you make words up. there's no such thing as a leptin classic team world. there's no such thing as a lep i'm:lassic team world. there's no such thing as a lep i'm an sic team world. there's no such thing as a lep i'm an authorn world. there's no such thing as a lep i'm an author. world. there's no such thing as a lep i'm an author. ecologist. >> i'm an author. ecologist. >> i'm an author. ecologist. >> okay . moving moving on now >> okay. moving moving on now this next story is in the daily mail story about those dangerous conservatives. nick yeah, more than 200 cambridge university

students signed letter saying they feel unsafe in that voice after conservative association booked hall for dinner and de—man christ's college stop societies , alcohol fuelled event societies, alcohol fuelled event alcohol again even worse than sweets . sweets. >> so the cambridge university conservative association cook not to be confused with cook's say they tried to book an event. there was an argument whether the bridge mass event should take precedence. there was various arguments, but these people invoked the classic thing that didn't safe . why that they didn't feel safe. why would why? why would would so tired? why? why would conservatives them unsafe? >> it's not true, is it? it's a tactic to get the event cancelled. well, basically vengeful is quite scary when he speaks really fast . speaks really fast. >> i mean, he's been speaking at a of these oxford, a few of these oxford, cambridge. don't know. cambridge. i don't know. it's funny. because they many funny. is it because they many people they funny. is it because they many peoplthat they funny. is it because they many peoplthat violence they funny. is it because they many peoplthat violence �*but think that violence is safe. but but conservative but words and conservative associations are i mean, these are the same many of the same people probably are people probably who are celebrating, who are sort of quasi hamas. quasi celebrating hamas. you know, what i'm know, well, here's what i'm goingdon't think it's real. i >> i don't think it's real. i think tactic. think think it's a tactic. i think when they to just when you if they were to just say, there are some say, oh, look, there are some people and we don't agree

people coming and we don't agree with nothing with their opinions, nothing would say would be done. but if you say i'm a sudden the i'm unsafe, all of a sudden the university a responsibility, university has a responsibility, a care to something a duty of care to do something about of about it instead of instead of saying just grow up. >> the problem didn't >> the problem is they didn't have this was have a calendar because this was they had a conflict . it's the they had a conflict. it's the most tenuous link on the calendar. no it's a real they had was november had because it was november 25th. were groups that 25th. there were two groups that they were fighting over. they could the could have looked on the calendar . could have looked on the calendar. this could have looked on the calendar . this lewis calendar. this is the lewis schaefer which schaefer calendar, which is available. is available. the link is which is available. the link is which is available down there. down there. see it says november 25th. and this is available at lewis show to advertise your dodgy merch . dodgy merch. >> and there's a discount. >> and there's a discount. >> that's ridiculous. pansexual discount, 10. >> is there a discount for pansexual ? there might be. pansexual? there might be. >> know what? if you say >> you know what? if you say i want a discount, it's only. want a 10% discount, it's only. >> i mean, you look very >> i mean, you do look very good in look, do look really? >> look, i do look really? >> look, i do look really? >> you've been airbrushed. >> you've been airbrushed. >> his head's been >> all his head's been photoshopped someone's photoshopped onto someone's body, not enough. >> schaefer merchandise. enough. >> i schaefer merchandise. enough. >> i don't schaefer merchandise. enough. >>i don't needfer merchandise. enough. >>i don't need anynerchandise. enough. >>i don't need any more,ndise. so i don't need any more, frankly. so stop flogging it. all right. coming up in the final women final section, we have women losing divorce losing out on divorce settlements paying to settlements and paying more to

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welcome . back to headliners. welcome. back to headliners. your first look at saturday's newspapers. we're going to start this final section with the guardian . lewis it turns out guardian. lewis it turns out women lose more in divorce than men . men. >> quelle surprise . well, >> quelle surprise. well, whether that's true or not, that's what the guardian . the that's what the guardian. the guardian looks at all these anyway. the women losing out as couples divorce on the couples try to divorce on the cheap. that? how cheap. so did you do that? how do that? you just file do you do that? you just file the papers, which is what i tried do got screwed tried to do and i got screwed myself. you wouldn't realise how quickly, to quickly, how easy it is to get divorce point this is divorce. the point is, this is a tragic story because first of all, what what the guardian is saying is they're saying poor women, it's a woe is me. women that women need to get more when the fact is women end up so far ahead of men, 90% of divorces are instituted by women. if they're college educated , you

they're college educated, you know this if their college education isn't it, 75% of 75% of women normally. but if you're a university educated, you don't marry an educated woman. yeah they say they don't have much money, but they've been sitting at home doing nothing. not nothing . looking after kids nothing. looking after the kids is nick, isn't itjust more >> nick, isn't it just more reasons not to get married? it does but get does sound that way. but get a prenup. guardians, not prenup. it's the guardians, not destabilise prenup. it's the guardians, not destabilisl mean, what they're >> yeah, i mean, what they're saying is that actually the legal aren't legal costs aren't as prohibitive you think. most prohibitive as you think. most people them. people don't even use them. and if this what if they do, this is what it claims many people claims anyway. or many people don't. of don't. nearly a quarter of divorcees it less divorcees said it costs less than they're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia they're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit they're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit of they're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit of a they're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit of a myth, y're saying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit of a myth, right?ying divorcees said it costs less thaia bit of a myth, right? but it's a bit of a myth, right? but then you do also hear that it's very expensive. you hear that men likely men are eight times more likely to divorce. to commit suicide after divorce. so stats so there are these stats knocking around as well. >> i been there . i have >> i have been there. i have been women have most been there. and women have most of the breaks. >> how many times have you been divorced, louis? >> i've been divorced once . one >> i've been divorced once. one really bad time , one really bad time. >> so you're basing your analysis on died? >> i mean, i studied it. i've

been obsessed about this. i wasn't always obsessed with food. i was obsessed with divorce studying divorce? >> you were studying divorce? >> you were studying divorce? >> i studied divorce. >> you were studying divorce? >was. i studied divorce. i was. >> what's the word for an expert in divorce? >> a families fathers >> it's a families need fathers is the group. >> i meant like divorce >> i meant like a divorce ologist >> i meant like a divorce olo they're the guys batman >> they're the guys that batman and go up there. >> no, that's not. that's not fathers justice. fathers for justice. >> did the good guys what >> what did the good guys what did divorcees for justice >> what did the good guys what did divorcees forjustice dress did divorcees for justice dress like ? like? >> no. families fathers. >> no. families need fathers. those like me who those are the losers like me who would go to court to see if they could win spend money on could win and spend money on should batman should have done the batman thing. done thing. i should have done the batman would have been batman thing. i would have been i would have happier in. i would have been happier in. >> it, you would >> and let's face it, you would have good. have. have looked good. i would have. you pull that. have looked good. i would have. you i pull that. have looked good. i would have. you i that that. have looked good. i would have. you i that good >> no, i wasn't that good looking time. looking at the time. >> the adam west batman. >> the adam west batman. >> wasn't a naturally >> the adam west batman. >> hair.|'t a naturally grey hair. >> okay. you the weight. >> we're going to move on to saturday's daily mail. nick, children misbehaving in restaurants. bugbear restaurants. that's a bugbear of mine. fiery restaurants. that's a bugbear of mine debate fiery restaurants. that's a bugbear of mine debate . fiery gmb debate. >> andrew. we're going to do a debate about a fiery debate about a fiery debate. and it was an author. i can't even bother reading headline, reading this whole headline, but do fiery debate? reading this whole headline, but do it's fiery debate? reading this whole headline, but do it's too fiery debate? reading this whole headline, but do it's too long! debate? >> it's too long. >> it's too long. >> too long. it basically >> it's too long. it basically

was was anna magnin. was it was anna mae magnin. mangan arguing mangan whatever was was arguing with karina. something on one of these shows. i don't watch kanna these shows. i don't watch karina white and it was and they were saying should were saying whether you should have restaurant or have children in a restaurant or not. the talking not. and apparently the talking tokyo, can't say words. tokyo, i can't say words. there's a restaurant in georgia that you should have an that thinks you should have an adult on the menu for adult surcharge on the menu for adults that are unable to parent, i.e. they their kids parent, i.e. they let their kids run riot and actually kind of agree. this is i hate agree. i mean, this is i hate this story because it puts me in this story because it puts me in this between i this conflict between what i advocate how i live, advocate versus how i live, because think people should advocate versus how i live, becalkids think people should advocate versus how i live, becalkids andk people should advocate versus how i live, becalkids and it'seople should advocate versus how i live, becalkids and it's great, hould advocate versus how i live, becalkids and it's great, have advocate versus how i live, benmanys and it's great, have advocate versus how i live, benmany kidsi it's great, have advocate versus how i live, benmany kidsi it'possible,|ave as many kids as possible, save the save our the birth rates, save our society. are annoying society. but they are annoying in restaurants and in public. >> i think it should >> and no, no, i think it should be. by all means reproduce if you feel the but my view you feel the need. but my view would you've that would be once you've made that decision, then to decision, you can't then go to restaurants can't decision, you can't then go to resinjrants can't decision, you can't then go to resin society. can't. 't be in society. no, you can't. you removed . yourself from you have removed. yourself from society. that's the price you p“- society. that's the price you pay. and people tell me it's worth it. you know, people really like their children, but i really i think it's actually really rude to bring some squalling brats. >> you're trying to enjoy the opera. >> restaurant or an

>> a restaurant or to. or to an opera hate children opera because you hate children and children. and no, i don't hate children. i just want anywhere. just don't want them anywhere. it understand. just don't want them anywhere. it and understand. just don't want them anywhere. it andi understand. just don't want them anywhere. it and i thinkrstand. just don't want them anywhere. it and i thinkrstansociety, >> and i think this society, british society of british society, is a society of child is that is from child hatred. is that is from child hatred. is that is from chi|louis, i just want to watch >> louis, i just want to watch a play >> louis, i just want to watch a play without some brat squalling in my ear. >> right. because you should very, very convenient for you, though, isn't andrew, because you don't really have to face it, do you? >> do. well, i do. i did >> i do. well, i do. i did a stand up gig in a big theatre where was a screaming where there was a baby screaming in could. i mean, in in what you could. i mean, it's yeah, but. but it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that's so selfish, idea it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that'soh, selfish, idea it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that'soh, just sh, idea it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that'soh, just because dea it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that'soh, just because iza it's outrageous. yeah, but. but that'soh, just because i wanted that, oh, just because i wanted to reproduce, i wanted genes to reproduce, i wanted my genes to reproduce, i wanted my genes to carry on. i'm going to ruin everyone else's night out. maybe the selfish , maybe the cheap the selfish, maybe the cheap self, maybe baby find self, maybe the baby didn't find youandrew, the baby most >> andrew, the baby most certainly not. certainly did not. >> babies have bad in >> so babies have bad taste in comedy . comedy. >> it's a personal thing. >> it's a personal thing. >> upset about that. >> and babies and babies. >> and babies and babies. >> that's the theme of the night . we're going to move on to the .we're going to move on to the independent now. louis what's this? new method for stealing this? a new method for stealing museum mean, this has been >> well, i mean, this has been done forever. in done forever. they've dug in from thieves hole from below. thieves cut a hole

through floor and steal through museum floor and steal priceless silver antiques. >> i saw that in a mission impossible film. i'm pretty sure. >> yes. it's always that way. where come. that was the where they come. that was the one came the one where they came down in the thing. they've come up and this is museum. it's the. it's is in a museum. it's the. it's the uma henry, i don't the uma. henry, you man, i don't know how to pronounce that museum newark . yeomanry. museum in newark. yeomanry. yeomanry. . thank yeomanry. that's right. thank you. nick yeomanry. you. thank you. nick yeomanry. and they we say these and they, they we say these things are priceless, but they're able to buy them. somebody to going pay for somebody who's to going pay for them. say, well, must. >> f must. >> if they're going to >> i mean, if they're going to go effort to steal go to all that effort to steal them, there must be a market for these. are they, muskets them, there must be a market for thesthings are they, muskets them, there must be a market for thesthings arethat? muskets them, there must be a market for thesthings arethat? well(ets them, there must be a market for thesthings arethat? well they and things like that? well they took and things like that? well they too sorry. took the sister >> sorry. they took the sister piece wimbledon's piece to the wimbledon's women's singles silver. piece to the wimbledon's women's singlt's silver. piece to the wimbledon's women's singlt's not silver. piece to the wimbledon's women's singlt's not that. silver. >> it's not that. >> it's not that. >> yeah. you could melt >> oh, yeah. you could melt it down and make nice trinket, down and make a nice trinket, a cavalry trumpet. >> took kind of >> they took a weird kind of statuette, which is probably silver yeah, that's true. >> it would make more sense to go jeweller's you go for like a jeweller's or, you know, h samuel or know, branch of h samuel or something i'm not something like that. i'm not suggesting people do, but, you know, that would make more sense, it? know, that would make more senle, it? know, that would make more seni would it? know, that would make more seni would havet? know, that would make more seni would have thought, well, >> i would have thought, well, it's military and it's from a military museum. and i the end of the day, i think at the end of the day, i'm of people. an

i'm one of these people. i'm an i'm one of these people. i'm an i am a crime expert , fictional i am a crime expert, fictional criminal , i am a crime expert, fictional criminal, absolutist people. if you steal something from a military museum . yes. death military museum. yes. death penalty. i mean, that's very extreme. >> i would say. i agree. you agree as well. yeah, right. well, for balance, i'm going to say i totally think that's appalling. and i do, actually. okay. we're to going move on to the star nick and the daily star now. nick and a development in the in understanding mental health. what's depression. what's this? yes depression. >> humans bonking. what's this? yes depression. >> humans bonking . you see, >> humans bonking. you see, i was surprised because i was thinking it's that. and then you said mental health humans bonking with extinct bonking with now extinct species could be the key to depression. experts say the experts are back and there's a link between a gene in some people today. gene found in some people today. not primate. not all. and a primate. a certain primate called the denisovan denisovans . why can i denisovan denisovans. why can i pronounce your words but not the words in article asia , words in my article in asia, people basically mated with these things and then some people have lower levels of zinc and they're depressed. and so they're depressed. >> so, so tens of thousands >> so, so, so tens of thousands of of our of years ago, some of our ancestors sex with these ancestors had sex with these

sort beasts. it's sort of monkey beasts. it's nonsense. causes nonsense. and that causes us to be i mean, be be depression. i mean, i'd be quite depressed if i did something well up. >> aren't they they're >> aren't they saying they're saying know saying that these they know whatever it is, they they they had low levels of zinc and zinc whatever it is, they they they helinked levels of zinc and zinc whatever it is, they they they helinked to els of zinc and zinc whatever it is, they they they helinked to depression and zinc is linked to depression and i take 50mg of zinc every day. one of one of the few. yeah. >> and is that why you're always so upbeat? >> well , compared to how i used >> well, compared to how i used to be, i mean, i'm not i'm to be, yes. i mean, i'm not i'm totally depressed. >> to put you, >> i'm going to put it to you, louis, intake is louis, that your zinc intake is not not helping not working. it's not helping because in in such not working. it's not helping bncurmudgeonly in in such not working. it's not helping bncurmudgeonly mood. in such not working. it's not helping bncurmudgeonly mood. i in such not working. it's not helping bncurmudgeonly mood. i thought, a curmudgeonly mood. i thought, oh, god, i'm to to oh, god, i'm going to have to put up with him all night. oh, god, i'm going to have to putyeah, th him all night. oh, god, i'm going to have to putyeah, well,n all night. oh, god, i'm going to have to putyeah, well,n think ght. mood >> yeah, well, i think my mood has improved. >> your ancestors had >> i think your ancestors had sex with lot of these monkey beasts. >> you know what? it's quite possible it's true because. because dna tested. because i had my dna tested. >> i can of >> yeah, and i can sort of see it in brow, it's there it in your brow, and it's there as scientist, want to as a scientist, i just want to say isn't real. there say evolution isn't real. there we go. with the balance. we go. always with the balance. that's for . here that's what nick's for. here anyway. the show is nearly over, so have another look so let's have another quick look at page . so at saturday's front page. so we're going to start there with the sex parties and the daily mail sex parties and the daily mail sex parties and the tory clique who the ruthless tory clique who secretly make and break prime

ministers. nadine dorries ministers. that's nadine dorries new is being new book which is being serialised in the mail. the daily telegraph has bbc crisis over £1] billion pension bill for stars . the times is leading for stars. the times is leading with chief rabbis . protest fears with chief rabbis. protest fears the i has election boost for labour as former tory chancellor ken clarke backs rachel reeves. daily express hate marches are an affront to british values and the guardian is rail rules out ceasefire. those were your front pages. that's all we've got time for. but thank you my guests, for. but thank you to my guests, louis schaffer and to nick dickson. we're back tomorrow at 11:00, louis will here 11:00, when louis will be here with and leo with cressida wetton and leo kearse . and if watching kearse. and if you're watching the repeat show, please the 5 am, repeat show, please do because do stick around because it's time for

place in gaza. this comes after a recent rocket attack near news media in sderot in south israel. our home and security editor mark white was there when it happened. you can see here the back of this vehicle. >> the alarms are sounding in the building there. so just right in at the back of that vehicle, the rocket, some of the debns vehicle, the rocket, some of the debris has impacted the window. >> and today , mark is live in >> and today, mark is live in tel aviv for us with the latest . tel aviv for us with the latest. >> well, the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , minister, benjamin netanyahu, has insisted there will be no temporary cease fires as the attacks on hamas positions continue . continue. >> and according to our peoples poll, an exclusive 20% of people say they do support the pro—palestine protests. during the remembrance day weekend. this comes as the prime minister, rishi sunak brands, planned pro—palestinian protests on armistice day. provocative

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