its violence . this escalates its violence. this comes as explosions rock the lebanese border following israeli airstrikes . arab israeli airstrikes. arab countries demand an immediate ceasefire in gaza, but the us warns this would allow hamas to regroup . and fireworks regroup. and after fireworks were shot at police officers yesterday and 29 arrests were made during a pro—palestinian protest. could we see further disruption on on armistice day then on homeless people in tents have made a lifestyle choice. those are the words of our very own home secretary suella braverman is set to propose a new law which will limit the use of tents in cities. that's in a bid prevent aggressive bid to prevent aggressive begging, and begging, drug taking and littering areas. is she littering in urban areas. is she onto something or that just onto something or is that just plain cruel and tonight, of course, bonfire night. but course, is bonfire night. but according polling, a according to new polling, a whopping 80% of us want fireworks banned altogether. would you welcome tighter restrictions on the sale of fireworks ? so please do get in fireworks? so please do get in touch on all of those topics and more. you can get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com or us vaiews@gbnews.com or send us a message socials. we're at message on our socials. we're at gb news. but first it's your news with sophia .

news with sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . prime minister rishi newsroom. prime minister rishi sunak and home secretary suella braverman have expressed concern about further probe palestine protests during armistice day. the police met commissioner sir mark rowley has promised to take a robust approach and to use all the powers available to ensure commemorative events are not undermined . deputy prime undermined. deputy prime minister oliver dowden says armistice day should be about honoufing armistice day should be about honouring the sacrifices made by previous generations . previous generations. >> i have really grave concerns about this and i think that certainly representing a large jewish community, as i do, but it's broader than the jewish community. we should be honoufing community. we should be honouring and respecting the sacrifice made by previous generations and certainly shouldn't have the kind of intimidate action that you see intimidate action that you see in those marches . in those marches. >> meanwhile, shadow defence

secretary john healey says we live in a democracy and must balance the right to protest operational decision for the police . police. >> they are talking to the protest organiser , others who protest organiser, others who want to show their solidarity with palestinians and they're looking at a different place in london. one at a time. two hours after the remembrance service at the cenotaph and i hope we'll be able to get to a situation where we're not banning the right of protest, but we're absolutely ensuring that the remembrance , ensuring that the remembrance, recognition and honour of those people who've served and fallen to defend us in this country is fully respected . fully respected. >> a human chain calling for the return of hostages kidnapped in israel has assembled in parliament square. joining me now is gb news political correspondent katherine forster what's so good about it? >> yeah , in the last hour, we've >> yeah, in the last hour, we've seen a couple of thousand people gather here in parliament square

and form a human chain. >> remember , bearing those . 242 >> remember, bearing those. 242 hostages taken by hamas on october the 7th, friends , october the 7th, friends, relatives absolutely want to keep them in the public eye. of course, they have no idea how many are still alive, how many may be dead, or if they will ever see them again. go and see the picture. >> thank you, catherine. boris johnson is visiting the idf soldiers in jerusalem in a show of solidarity . australia's of solidarity. australia's former prime minister, scott morrison and the former prime minister, boris johnson arrived this morning and were greeted by israel's former ambassador to the un, danny danon. they will visit israel's southern communities later . visit israel's southern communities later. mrjohnson is expected to meet with israeli president isaac herzog , hesba president isaac herzog, hesba ella claimed to have struck a vehicle near an israeli military outpost on the border with lebanon. there are reports of casualties, but no confirmation from israeli authorities so far. the incident took place near the

border outpost in yiftah. there are several videos on social media recording sustained gunfire in the area around israeli outposts as the window for civilian evacuate missions from north gaza to the south has now closed . anthony blinken has now closed. anthony blinken has left israel to continue humanitarian talks in turkey with the foreign ministers. the us secretary of state met with palestinian president mahmoud abbas in an announced visit to ramallah in the west bank. president abbas told him an immediate ceasefire is needed. the pair also discussed getting more aid into gaza and efforts to restore stability to the west bank.the to restore stability to the west bank. the foreign office is pressing for the rafah crossing to reopen to allow uk nationals to reopen to allow uk nationals to escape gaza. 112 people were expected to leave yesterday when the crossing was temporarily closed , and it is also unknown closed, and it is also unknown how many people were able to make the journey. in a statement, a spokesperson described the situation as

disappointing and said they remain in contact with british nationals in the region . snipers nationals in the region. snipers take position in hamburg's airport as police negotiate a hostage situation. it's after an armed 35 year old man used a vehicle to break through security and onto a runway with a four year old child in the car. german police say it is likely it's a custody dispute and the child's mother has told them the father has been in contact with her. and prince william has arrived in singapore to attend the 2023 earthshot prize ceremony . the prince of prize ceremony. the prince of wales is hosting the united for wildlife global summit in conjunction with his earthshot environmental initiative . he environmental initiative. he hopes to shine a spotlight on south east asia's role in the illegal wildlife trade. the earthshot awards on tuesday will see five category winners presented with £1 million each to scale up their environmental ideas. to scale up their environmental ideas . this to scale up their environmental ideas. this is gb news to scale up their environmental ideas . this is gb news across ideas. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your

smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . emily news. now it's back to. emily >> thanks, sophia. now an evacuation route out of the north of gaza has been opened. israel will not strike any location along the route, permitting people a further opportunity to escape the violence. however reports indicate that hamas are exploiting the corridor to carry out attacks on troops. now 88 british nationals have been prevented from crossing the border into egypt. officials temporarily closed the rafah crossing after accusations swirled about hamas infiltration among the injured . the foreign among the injured. the foreign office has been pressing for its reopening and expects a resumption within days . arab resumption within days. arab nafions resumption within days. arab nations are demanding a ceasefire from the us secretary of state as he heard their concerns in jordan yesterday. this is an idea repeatedly rejected by the us and israel . rejected by the us and israel. this comes as explosions rocked the lebanese border following israeli airstrikes . the lebanese

israeli airstrikes. the lebanese terror group hezbollah has threatened full scale war if israel escalates its violence since. now our security editor mark white has the latest for us. mark there have been a significant number of developments since we last spoke. can you bring us the latest on. >> well , in terms of >> well, in terms of developments, just within the last few minutes , increased fire last few minutes, increased fire across that border from lebanon into northern israel, really signalling this uptick that hassan nasrallah, the head of hezbollah , has indicated in his hezbollah, has indicated in his speech on friday. now he didn't say that hezbollah was going to declare all out war with israel , declare all out war with israel, but he did indicate that it had beenin but he did indicate that it had been in the conflict since the day after the 7th of october attacks and that that would continue on an increased scale . continue on an increased scale. and we've seen true to his word, drone attacks over the border today , missiles in the form of

today, missiles in the form of anti—tank missiles and other munitions lobbed over and in just the last 15 minutes, reports that a vehicle near an israeli military outpost on the border has been struck with an anti—tank missile. there are reports, according to israeli media, of casualties all the idf have said so far is that there has been a missile, an anti—tank missile launch just over the border, and they are responding and targeting hezbollah positions there are social media videos that have come out that do indicate a lot of sustained gunfire in that area around this border post. >> thank you, mark. now in terms of the humanitarian corridor that i spoke of, there in the introduction , what's happening introduction, what's happening there? because there are reports that hamas are now essentially using using that humanitarian corridor corridor for their own

means . means. >> yeah, there's been some real concern on the israeli side that some of the injured going through in these ambulances because as well as the foreign nationals who are being allowed through in a controlled manner , through in a controlled manner, so are a number of ambulances with some of the supposedly badly injured civilians. but the concern that the israelis have had is that inside those ambulances are some hamas terrorists, so that led to some concerns and a closing down of the rafah crossing yesterday while they get those issues addressed out. and that meant, of course, that the 88 british national and others who were supposed to go through the rafah crossing yesterday didn't get to do that. so it's hoped that things can resume again today, but no indication on that is the case. thus far. aid trucks are coming in. about 30 aid trucks came in yesterday and it's hoped

more will be allowed across today as well. but it's a very precarious situation on that border with some real security concerns . concerns. >> and just finally, we've heard this morning that prime minister benjamin netanyahu has had to discipline a junior member of his government . can discipline a junior member of his government. can you explain what happened there ? what happened there? >> yes. this is amir eliyahu, who is a heritage minister. he's a far right politician in part of the coalition government. he's actually been suspended and he is not. we should add, part of the israeli government's war cabinet. so not taking decisions, but it was an issue and a question around a nuclear strike on gaza. complete unthinkable, of course, and ludicrous for any sensible person to even think that that was an option. but he was apparently asked about this and he said that, you know, that's one way of doing it. so the israeli government have been

very quick to distance themselves from him. they say that that view is absolutely not representative of anything that the israeli government and the idf is trying to do. can as far as they're concerned , conforming as they're concerned, conforming with international humanitarian laws in their prosecution of this war, despite the stated difficulties that we know about, the fact that hamas embeds its terrorists and its infrastructure right within the civilian population. in fact, today, emily, we've had some video released by the idf showing rocket launchers , launch showing rocket launchers, launch pits, tunnels , is all around pits, tunnels, is all around civilian areas, including schools , kindergarten, a schools, kindergarten, a swimming pool and play park. so an indication with the release of this video that this is indeed what they're doing. and the idf want to release as much of this material as possible

because they want to get the message across that, look, they are not deliberately targeting civilians, far from it. they have been warning civilians for weeks to get south. and in fact, they've again , for a four hour they've again, for a four hour penod they've again, for a four hour period today, opened this main highway south to try to allow people to get over and down to the relative safety of southern gaza. the relative safety of southern gaza . but again, they say that gaza. but again, they say that hamas are opening fire on idf positions . positions. >> thank you very much indeed. mark white there, our security editor, live from tel aviv. thank you for your time. so let's see what my panel think of what we've just discussed. i'm joined unionist joined by trade unionist and writer embery the writer paul embery and the deputy leader reform uk, ben deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib . thank very much habib. thank you very much indeed. we got through quite a lot there with mark. he brought us very much up date in terms us very much up to date in terms of the pr war that's being waged , very difficult for israel to convince the international community that it is trying its best to limit civilian

casualties and of course, the sympathy for israel will diminish as you get further away from the 7th of october. >> letter and the visual impact of death and destruction in gaza is going to increasingly pivot international opinion against israel. i mean, one of the interesting things about the approach that the israelis have taken is to go in on the ground. you know, the easy option, the opfion you know, the easy option, the option which would have kept hezbollah more hezbollah much more under control north, would have control in the north, would have been commit ground troops been not to commit ground troops and to a continue used and just to have a continue used aerial bombardment. but but it's aerial bombardment. but but it's a testimony if you like, to the israelis, the integrity of their intention , which is to root out intention, which is to root out hamas , get the hostages back and hamas, get the hostages back and actually once and for all to eliminate hamas because an aerial bombardment would never have achieved that . but what have achieved that. but what israel has done in effect, by going in on the ground , is to going in on the ground, is to open itself up to another attack from the north with a with a flank now completely committed

in gaza . from a military in gaza. from a military perspective, they are vulnerable in the north and hezbollah is obviously, you know, licking its lips, just waiting for the moment when it can strike israel. but but i think it would it would suit israel and i think it would suit israel and i think it would suit the international community and palestinians as if israel now started talking a little bit about what their ultimate aim is here and how they're going to settle gaza once they've once they've carried out whatever their on the ground mission is . and we the ground mission is. and we haven't heard of that. we've heard about the elimination of hamas, which no right minded individual would wish to stop . individual would wish to stop. but i think people need to now start hearing from israel as far as international opinion is concerned, at the very least, you know, what's your plan after you've eliminated hamas ? what you've eliminated hamas? what comes next? we've seen lots of international interventions , not international interventions, not least by our own country and many foreign foreign places , many foreign foreign places, misguided, in my view , gone in misguided, in my view, gone in gung bombed the hell out of regions, even committed ground

troops and had no plan for what comes after . comes after. >> and that's a very good point indeed. >> and that's a very good point indeed . what happens next? so indeed. what happens next? so far we've heard the government is exploring options means that's the israeli government that's the israeli government that is. paul, in terms of the winning international support for the cause for the israeli cause , do you think they were cause, do you think they were anticipating such pushback from the international community? >> no, i suspect they weren't . >> no, i suspect they weren't. and there has been considerable pushback. and i think that israel is in danger of losing some of the understandable goodwill that it had in the days after october the 7th. >> this is all about proportion and i think that people who instinctively may sympathise with israel's cause when they look at the pictures that are flooding onto our television screens of the daily bombardment of gaza , and many of these of gaza, and many of these people will have no respect for hamas. >> by the way , but they'll see >> by the way, but they'll see the number of innocent people

being caught up in this bombardment. they'll see the bombings and they'll see people's homes being wrecked and people's homes being wrecked and people's businesses being destroyed , refugee camps being destroyed, refugee camps being bombed , hospitals being bombed . bombed, hospitals being bombed. >> they will see the stream of men, women and children who have been mutilated and maimed and killed, many of whom in gaza won't have sympathy for hamas. that's the point that we often forget. i think some people just assume that everybody in gaza supports hamas. actually they don't. and i think people will say, look, is this not disproportionate ? and i think disproportionate? and i think people will also look at the danger of the whole thing possibly escalating into a regional war. i mean, ben mentioned hezbollah. i don't detect that hezbollah is licking its lips necessarily. i mean, hassan nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah , gave a keynote speech hezbollah, gave a keynote speech on friday, and some people were kind of expecting that that would be a declaration of war on

israel . certainly would create israel. certainly would create massive problems for israel. as you said , ben, opening up that you said, ben, opening up that second front when already it's got so many resources, is tied up in gaza. and nasrallah didn't quite do that. he was very threatening, but was almost threatening, but it was almost like you know , like somebody saying, you know, i to hit this person i really want to hit this person . you lot hold me back, . you lot better hold me back, hold back kind of thing. and hold me back kind of thing. and so i think even hezbollah, i think in look what could happen if we get involved. you know, the americans might then get involved. we might then have iran involved because, iran getting involved because, of hezbollah is an of course, hezbollah is an iranian proxy standing behind iran. let's not forget russia and china. so this thing could blow up into something much, much bigger. and i think wiser voices, wiser heads are probably thinking about that. >> it's not >> and of course, it's not fantastic for israel's pr to have this junior member of benjamin netanyahu , who's benjamin netanyahu, who's cabinet coming out and appearing to suggest that the nuclear opfion to suggest that the nuclear option should be on the on the table. but of course, he has beenin

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nights from. six >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. i'm on your tv, online and digital radio now. pro—israeli protesters have created a human chain in parliament square today. they're calling for the return of hostages kidnapped from by hamas . joining me from israel by hamas. joining me now is gb news political correspondent katherine forster. catherine, you're there live in parliament square. can you tell me what's planned ? me what's planned? >> yes, good afternoon , emily, >> yes, good afternoon, emily, from parliament square , where from parliament square, where today in the last hour , we've today in the last hour, we've had a thousand couple of people, i would say, form a human chain right around the square, remembering and drawing attention . to the 242 israelis attention. to the 242 israelis and dual nationals who were kidnapped by hamas on october the 7th, only four of the hostages taken that day have been released . a couple of

been released. a couple of elderly israeli women and an american israeli mother and daughter. no idea. the friends, the relatives are here, whether those is still missing, unaccounted for, are alive or dead. now, i talked to one of the organisers of this kidnapped from israel group, eyal biram , from israel group, eyal biram, about why they were here. let's have a look at what he had to say . say. >> my sister friend was taken on october 7th. she was a soldier serving in a base this is unfortunately just a small number we have in addition, for about 80 soldiers to die and hundreds of civilians. and we're speaking about 30 babies, about 40 elders, including holocaust survivors and all the others are just innocent men and women. most of them are just people who celebrated the peaceful . party celebrated the peaceful. party >> yes. so . 41% of the hostages >> yes. so. 41% of the hostages

taken are women. 1 in 7 of them are under 18. they range in age from nine month old babies through to holocaust survivors as he said. and a very sombre atmosphere here. they read out one by one the names of all the people missing . they printed people missing. they printed 1000 posters with the pictures , 1000 posters with the pictures, the ages, the details of these people on. they ran out . there people on. they ran out. there were so many people here, there. and it took really quite a few minutes to read out all the names. then we heard from some relatives. we had john lennon's imagine was sung and they ended with singing the national anthem . and i asked him how he felt. obviously yesterday we had the pro—palestine marches, not far from here at all. let's see what he had to say about how it's making him and other jews in the capital feel . capital feel. >> they make me to feel unsafe .

>> they make me to feel unsafe. if is jew as an israeli citizen , if is jew as an israeli citizen, as someone right now who live in the uk, i see the violence in this protest and i see that they are not respecting the place that they are the united kingdom. and we are kingdom. and here we are standing remembering the remembrance thinking remembrance day and thinking about the people and working with united with the united kingdom government the hostages government to bring the hostages back. government to bring the hostages back . home government to bring the hostages back. home yes. >> so feeling unthreatened and feeling unsafe , but the feeling feeling unsafe, but the feeling of a lot of jews up and down the country and across the world, of course, since october the seventh, there's been a huge rise in anti—semitic attacks . rise in anti—semitic attacks. and of course, there's real concerns about what may happen here next saturday on armistice day. i must say a lot of poppies at this particular rally, a lot of british flags, as well as israeli flags. and but what unites both sides, i suppose , is unites both sides, i suppose, is suffering because 1400 israelis

murdered by hamas terrorists on october the 7th, 242 hostages taken . but in gaza, we've . seen taken. but in gaza, we've. seen 9400 injured. that's what i'm talking about, 9400 people in gaza killed largely by israeli bomb strikes . that is according bomb strikes. that is according to the hamas health ministry. impossible to know the true numbers , but no end of suffering numbers, but no end of suffering on either side. at the moment. >> thank you very much indeed, catherine. there katherine forster are political correspondent live from parliament square where there is a human chain in protest in support of those hostages that are still missing, kept by hamas. ben habib and paul embry are here with me in the studio. paul i'll start with you. a very different mood this protest. far fewer people . well, of course, fewer people. well, of course,

there you see british flags being waved alongside israeli flags. you see the slow reading of names of people who are still being kept hostage. israeli citizens are still being held hostage by hamas. yes >> and i completely sympathise with the people taking part in that protest . i with the people taking part in that protest. i think with the people taking part in that protest . i think their that protest. i think their demands and their principles are sound. they will no doubt conduct the protests peacefully. and i absolutely defend their right to do so . and i understand right to do so. and i understand entirely why many jews across this country currently feel unsafe. we've seen the rise in anti—semitism, semitic attacks. we've seen a rise in so—called hate crime . so it's no wonder hate crime. so it's no wonder that jews are feeling unsafe and feel that there's a need to come together to show solidarity with each other, to seek solidarity from others. and most

importantly , to demand the importantly, to demand the release of the hostages , which i release of the hostages, which i think is an entirely laudable aim. >> ben , as paul says there, it's >> ben, as paul says there, it's well, it's hardly surprising that jewish communities in this country are feeling unsafe . country are feeling unsafe. social media is awash with videos of people ripping down posters of these hostages, ripping them down, sharing that on social media in a callous way. >> yeah. so, i mean, what we're seeing on the streets of london is really very concerning. it's the it is . the manifestation of the it is. the manifestation of the it is. the manifestation of the failure of multicolour liberalism in this country. i think we need to get that out there and about it there and speak about it unashamedly. what we're not seeing is people recognising first and foremost that they're british and that any death is bad, whether it's israeli death or palestinian death . and we're or palestinian death. and we're not seeing a british view. what we're seeing is very partisan view taken particularly by those who support the palestinian cause, not as far as i can see,

distinct wishing in their protests between hamas and the support for palestinians. i'm not saying that there won't be a number of very large number of people who deplore hamas but wish to protect as much as possible palestinian life. >> paul on on on that point yesterday charring cross was forced to close the station because there was a protest there and they were blocking the concourse. i don't know if we can bring up that picture there of poppy can bring up that picture there of poppy sellers , as in amidst of poppy sellers, as in amidst the protest. it's quite a striking thing. striking image there. is there a conflict asked? are these protests in some way a threat to british culture? we have this ongoing controversy over planned over planned protests for armistice day. >> emily, what i would say the palestine solidarity campaign has been going for years . i has been going for years. i mean, to listen to some of the commentary, it's almost as if some commentators think that it was invented on the 7th of

october directly as a response to what happened in terms of the attacks blown up in a way i've never seen, though. >> well, yes, of course, there were always been people who were who are. >> it's quite let me let me >> but it's quite let me let me just say this. >> i've been active in the trade union movement for 25 years. and my union has been affiliated to the palestine solidarity campaign of that time. campaign for all of that time. it's around for years. it's it's been around for years. it's been for years . it's been marching for years. it's been marching for years. it's been demanding end to what it been demanding an end to what it calls the israeli occupation for years doubt because of years now, no doubt because of what's happened over the last four weeks, given the four weeks, it's given the palestine solidarity campaign a profile which hitherto it did not have. but let's not run away with the idea that on october the 7th, a load of people across this country came together because they somehow to because they somehow wanted to celebrate attacks on israeli celebrate the attacks on israeli civilians formed themselves into this palestine solidarity campaign and have decided to take to the streets in order to glorify hamas. that is not the roots of the palestine solidarity. >> hang on. we have seen we have seen some very worrying.

>> i think as much as i'd like to take the position you've taken, paul, and i think 30 years ago, your position probably would have been entirely but what we're entirely valid. but what we're now seeing in the united kingdom is which are is actually forces which are clearly the clearly antipathetic to the united kingdom being out united kingdom being played out and being played out in a pro—palestinian way on our streets. so to give you an example, this guy, mohammed kozbar, who's head of the muslim council for britain, an organisation which the government won't deal with, you know, being on the crown prosecution service, advising them on hate crimes. then there was another chap who was outed as you know , advocating the as you know, advocating the complete obliteration of israel. part of the metropolitan police. you know, it is now embedded and the chance coming out from some of the people. i don't want to i don't want to blanket condemn everyone who's, you know, wanting to protect palestinian lives . but the chants lives. but some of the chants are very, very violent. yes and they're very anti—western , they're very anti—western, liberal democracies. they want

to attack us as much as they want to attack the israelis. yeah. and ben, the 2029 arrests yesterday will go into some more detail about what was present on that protest in just one moment. >> but we're going to go straight to the news headlines with sophia . with sophia. >> it's 132. with sophia. >> it's132. i'm sophia with sophia. >> it's 132. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . prime minister in the newsroom. prime minister rishi sunak and home secretary suella braverman have expressed concerns about further pro—palestine protests during armistice day. the police met. commissioner sir mark rowley has promised to take a robust approach and to use all the powers available to ensure commemorative events are not undermined. deputy prime minister oliver dowden says armistice day should be about honounng armistice day should be about honouring the sacrifices made by previous generations . boris previous generations. boris johnson is visiting idf soldiers in jerusalem in a show of solidarity . australia's former solidarity. australia's former prime minister scott morrison

and the former prime minister bons and the former prime minister boris johnson arrived this morning and were greeted by israel's former ambassador to the un, danny danon . they'll the un, danny danon. they'll visit israel's southern communities and later mrjohnson communities and later mr johnson is expected to meet with israeli president isaac herzog . president isaac herzog. hezbollah claimed to have struck a vehicle near an israeli military outpost on the border with lebanon . on there are with lebanon. on there are reports of casualties , but no reports of casualties, but no confirmation from israeli authorities so far. the incident took place near the border outpost in yiftah . there are outpost in yiftah. there are several videos on social media showing sustained gunfire in the area around the israeli outpost. the window for civilian evacuations from north gaza to south has now closed . and prince south has now closed. and prince william has arrived in singapore to attend the 2023 earthshot prize ceremony . the prince of prize ceremony. the prince of wales is hosting the united for wildlife global summit in conjunction with his earthshot environmental initiative. he hopes to shine a spotlight on southeast asia's role in the

illegal wildlife trade. the earthshot award on tuesday will see five category winners presented with £1 million each to scale up their environmental ideas and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . our website, gb news.com. >> thank sophia. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. the home secretary has called rough sleeping a lifestyle choice. once again, she's faced a backlash for her a huge backlash for her language. does she deserve it? but first, let's take a look at the weather. hello there. >> i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office generally, east is best for any bonfire night celebrations you're attending this . eastern areas will this evening. eastern areas will hold largely dry hold on to largely dry conditions and clear intervals throughout. but the west we throughout. but in the west we do some showers to watch do have some showers to watch out for, particularly the focus across parts northwest across parts of northwest england. around england. they'll be around the bristol away well. england. they'll be around the brissecond away well. england. they'll be around the brissecond halfaway well. england. they'll be around the brissecond half ofay well. england. they'll be around the brissecond half of the well. england. they'll be around the brissecond half of the night, the second half of the night, beginning to fringe into parts of sussex kent well. but

of sussex and kent as well. but generally lot of dry, generally still a lot of dry, clear around. and clear conditions around. and underneath some and underneath that, some mist and fog it will also fog will form and it will also turn chilly, particularly turn quite chilly, particularly for eastern scotland, where we certainly frost certainly can expect some frost to develop as we head into monday. overall another monday. it is overall another day showers , day of sunshine and showers, those frequent in those showers most frequent in the be the west. once again could be heavy maybe with some heavy at times, maybe with some thunderstorms and some hail as well. still some sunshine in the mix the prolonged mix, but the most prolonged sunshine for eastern sunshine will be for eastern areas, a few showers just areas, but a few showers just beginning to migrate their way across england. across into eastern england. later afternoon, a later on in the afternoon, a breezy overall, breezy day overall, but temperatures where we temperatures around where we expect them for the time of yean expect them for the time of year, between 10 and 14 c as we head tuesday, it will start head into tuesday, it will start off fairly showery once again, but of high pressure but this ridge of high pressure is going pushing is then going to start pushing its uk. so the its way in across the uk. so the showers will ease off, the winds will turn lighter as well and into afternoon. into the afternoon. generally things drier a lot things will turn drier for a lot of areas and there will be some sunny spells around to enjoy. for we start for wednesday, though, we start to see more widespread band of to see a more widespread band of rain sweep way rain beginning to sweep its way in, into the second half of in, but into the second half of the week, first day friday, the

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claimed that people living in tents have made a lifestyle choice, not one to shy away from saying what she really thinks. the home secretary wants to stop the and distress caused the nuisance and distress caused by people sleeping on the streets tents. should the streets in tents. so should the government ban on tents in cities ? joining me now is cities? joining me now is homeless charity founder and manchester mayoral candidate nick buckley, mvp. nick, when you saw this headline, what did you saw this headline, what did you think ? you think? >> i've been saying this for two decades and rough sleeping is very complicated. >> we could spend the next six hours digging deep into rough sleeping, but we haven't got the time for someone who sat down with hundreds of people living on streets in manchester on the streets in manchester city centre, of them it is city centre, some of them it is a lifestyle choice . a lifestyle choice. >> do they really want to be there? well, the answer is no. but the reason why they're there and have made that choice is because the services that councils offer are not good enough. >> that's the real question . how >> that's the real question. how bad are those services? if you'd rather live in a tent on a street? that's the question is

do you think that suella braverman should have made it more clear in what she said that there should be a focus on improving services and improving the lives of those people who end up on the streets? >> do you think it was perhaps a little bit out? what's the word ? little bit out? what's the word? it sounded rather callous, perhaps to focus on on the tents . yes, it it's yeah. >> mean everything can be said slightly better . slightly better. >> and you know, she's fallen into that trap. so she's got the wrong the wrong headlines for what she was trying to do every thing we do should be getting people off the streets. and her point really is why are we giving people tents to stay on the streets when the aim should be getting them off the streets? and some of the charities that were working in this sector, we need to ask them some serious questions. and one of the questions. and one of the questions is your is not to questions is your aim is not to end rough sleeping. your aim is to carry on support ing and working with rough sleepers,

because that's what pays your wages. that's what pays your pension and we've set up the incentives for many of these agencies and many of these charities we've set up their incentives never to solve the problem. why would you solve the problem. why would you solve the problem that's paying your bills and nick, now , to be fair to and nick, now, to be fair to suella braverman , she was quite suella braverman, she was quite specific ish in what she said. >> she said that many of the people are from abroad and are choosing to live in tents in this country. i think she was suggesting that i don't know. people move here in order to then live in tents on our streets. have you seen that ? is streets. have you seen that? is that a reality in this country ? that a reality in this country? >> i haven't seen that in manchester city centre . manchester city centre. >> i mean, there is foreign people living on the streets. >> i wouldn't say they've come here to live on the streets and we that isn't the case. >> but let's say it is the case.

why don't we deport them if you haven't got the financial all the financial resources to make a living in the uk, then you should be deported from where you came from. that's the end of that situation. the biggest crime are the british citizens living on the streets, not necessarily the foreigners. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you very much indeed, nick buckley , thank you very nick buckley, thank you very much indeed for your time this afternoon. i'll bring my panel on this one. obviously, it's a very sensitive subject . but ben, very sensitive subject. but ben, i'll start with you. what did you make of suella braverman's comments there? do you think she was spot on or was she being callous? well, a senior conservative party member said to me the other day, one of the problems that has got is problems that suella has got is she the path most she takes the path of most resistance in the way that she in the that aspires to in the way that she aspires to her arguments. >> but defence of suella, >> but in defence of suella, i would say there a lot of would say there are a lot of very difficult subject acts which to be tackled and she which need to be tackled and she is now at least she's very short on action. the government is very short on action, but she is

at least revealing the problems . at least revealing the problems. and that's the first step towards solving the problems. and we don't want tents, obviously, on our streets. it's not a a sign of a failed , not a a sign of a failed, failing society. if we've got lots of people sleeping rough and intense. and it's interesting that nick buckley presented it as a choice effectively between a broken pubuc effectively between a broken public sector looking after you or sleeping in a tent. i would say it's much more fundamental than that. what we need is these people becoming valuable participants in society. and i know later on i think we're going to be talking about the number of people claiming benefits. and it's part of the same kind of problem. we need people getting back into work, having skill sets that they having the skill sets that they needin having the skill sets that they need in order to get into work, having the confidence to go back to work, making money out of work and banning tents is a regulatory, legal approach. it's a sledgehammer to solve the problem. what you need is social reform , a taxation reform, reform, a taxation reform, education to really get rid of

the problem into the long term. >> yes, paul, surely we need to tackle homelessness rather than the tents, which is a symptom of the tents, which is a symptom of the problem. if we look at it's been report after report after report of people who have had homes, have been living in homes, who have been living in private accommodation, homes, who have been living in priiexample, accommodation, homes, who have been living in priiexample, who ommodation, homes, who have been living in priiexample, who find|odation, homes, who have been living in priiexample, who find themselves for example, who find themselves on the streets without a home because rents are just going up so astronomically . so astronomically. >> exactly. and i'm uneasy about the proposal . look, i mean, it the proposal. look, i mean, it is unsightly. some of our town centres, our high streets, it is unsightly to see some of these scenes. but what would be to stop suella braverman from saying, okay, this week it's tents. we're going to stop people having the protection of tents against the elements next week it's going to be coats or something. you know, if you're a charity, you can't ban a coat. well, well, this is exactly my point. but if you can ban a tent, then perhaps you could ban are. >> i think there are established principles to ban a tent. you know, reasons, for know, planning reasons, for example. well okay, but but but i mean, government can find i mean, the government can find a enact new legislation

a way to enact new legislation if it's so decides, if it's so if it's so decides, we know that. >> but in principle, i don't particularly difference particularly see the difference between saying should between saying the tent should between saying the tent should be that be banned, something that provides protection and warmth to person and saying, to a homeless person and saying, well, charity donates its well, if a charity donates its warm clothing, that should be banned as well. that's the sort of slope. of slippery slope. >> not very from >> i mean, not very far from here. there are people living in tents on a a main road tents on a on a main road essentially around a roundabout, on a main road. i essentially around a roundabout, on a main road . i don't believe on a main road. i don't believe anyone is choosing or not. many people are active choosing that as a lifestyle. i think i think thatis as a lifestyle. i think i think that is very much fair to say. we'll come back to this because we've got lots more coming up on today's show. remember, remember the november. many the 5th of november. but many would forget about would rather forget about bonfire that's because bonfire night. that's because fireworks cause chaos in communities, apparently. is it time to ban the private sale of fireworks altogether? apparently, and more apparently, more, more and more of us want to . us all of that of us want to. us all of that and more to come. i'm emily calvi. you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel

isabel monday to thursday from six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your online and digital radio. a few of you have got in touch about suella bravermans comments regarding tents. she wants nobody in britain to be living in a tent. of course, and her use of the words lifestyle choice to describe people who are living in tents. i want to read out the full quote because some of you pick me up on this.

she did say the british people are compassionate. we will always support those who are genuinely we genuinely homeless, but we cannot allow our streets to be taken by of tents taken over by rows of tents occupied people, many them occupied by people, many of them from abroad on the from abroad and living on the streets as a lifestyle choice. so you that's the full so there you go. that's the full quote. and she goes to talk quote. and she goes on to talk about of the issues that about some of the issues that are impacting on the are impacting people on the streets and local authorities, issues drugs and addiction issues of drugs and addiction and on. and so forth. but and so on. and so forth. but we're going to be moving on because tonight is bonfire night , occasion which has , an occasion which has transformed from a political event widely celebrated event to a widely celebrated annual commemoration. however, more recently, there has been a growing awareness of the impact of fireworks animals and also of fireworks on animals and also veterans to the loud noises, veterans due to the loud noises, some people love them, some people hate them. but should there be tougher restrictions on this? last week, scottish fire crews have found themselves in the crosshairs attackers the crosshairs of attackers launching other launching fireworks and other missiles when they're attending call apparently it got so call outs. apparently it got so precarious areas that precarious in some areas that engines have had to back away from an incident ground to await assistance the police crews

assistance from the police crews in dundee, edinburgh, ayrshire have been particularly impacted, but as our scotland reporter tony mcguire reports, a myriad of reasons are increasing public frustrations to boiling point bonfire night should be a high point of seasonal festivity. >> but as the public's patience with fireworks starting to fizzle out, last year , scottish fizzle out, last year, scottish emergency services attended more than 1000 call outs for 183 fireworks. offences were reported and police scotland made 12 arrests, all on november fifth. firefighters continued to be attacked from groups of youths, bombarding them with fireworks and projectiles and aggravated attacks in ayrshire. so a fire crew retreat to a safe distance to await a police escort . paul distance to await a police escort. paul timmons distance to await a police escort . paul timmons station escort. paul timmons station commander in ardrossan, explains . there is a real concern among the crew when responding to certain calls . certain calls. >> the crew on monday evening attended the same the same incident ground on three separate occasions to deal with

bonfires and were attacked twice on that evening . these types of on that evening. these types of acts of violence are unacceptable for the crew . there unacceptable for the crew. there is worry amongst the crew who attend certain areas within within the town. but we are working in partnership with the police to ensure the safety of our crew, but also the safety of our crew, but also the safety of our community. >> the fire brigades union says the scottish fire and rescue service resources have been cut by 22% over the last ten years, while maintenance costs have more than doubled the last more than doubled in the last five. for the first time, the scottish government has allowed councils implementfirework councils to implement firework control zones june. carry control zones since june. carry up to a £5,000 fine or six months in prison. but interest voiced by some councils has yet to translate into a rollout of restrictions and some members of the public don't think control zones go far enough . rosemary zones go far enough. rosemary honarmand is a spokesperson for the firework campaign , a uk the firework campaign, a uk facebook group lobbying for a ban on the public sale of fireworks. she believes that fireworks. she believes that fireworks should be restricted

to organised displays going fonnard . fonnard. >> the only suitable way would be to ban the sale of fireworks to the public and then having clearer legislation for public displays by a proper organised group. they've obviously evolved and people want more drama more, but i do think that attitude needs are changing to fireworks . needs are changing to fireworks. >> and even if public displays are the best for everyone, several annual events such as the one in glasgow were scrapped this year to divert council funding . all things together. funding. all things together. fire crews run the gauntlet again tonight, seeing little change from last year hoping 2024 will be the year the pieces fall into place. tony mcguire gb news glasgow . so news glasgow. so >> so should fireworks be banned ? do we want to ban too many things in this country? it seems there's always a lobby group wanting to ban one thing or another that other people enjoy. but fireworks. would you agree ?

but fireworks. would you agree? apparently us want to see apparently 80% of us want to see a ban on fireworks. let's talk to my panel, ben habib and paul embry . paul, are you a fireman? embry. paul, are you a fireman? do a call spike. do a call out. spike. >> firefighter . emily, come on, >> firefighter. emily, come on, get the fireman. >> firefighter. emily, come on, get sorry. reman. >> firefighter. emily, come on, get sorry. firefighter fire person. >> yeah , they do tend to spike >> yeah, they do tend to spike on bonfire night. the calls do spike and the fire service has got real concerns at the moment. the fire brigades union, as we heard over the impact on on the service and its ability to respond through the huge cuts that have taken place in the in the fire and rescue service and of course, the attacks on firefighters , which have firefighters, which have increased over the years well increased over the years as well . who's attacking . i mean, who's attacking firefighters? oh, you'd be surprised that there are people in particularly in some of our our fire stations in the cities who will come under attack with rocks and stones and various other items . other items. >> well, the firefighters ever done on the fifth more than any other day . other day. >> well, not necessarily more. not necessarily in my experience. more on the fifth. but certainly if the calls are

spiking, then the chances are that, you know, the attacks are to going spike well. but no, to going spike as well. but no, the you know, it's been well documented by the fire brigades union over recent years. the attacks firefighters. so attacks on firefighters. so i completely understand those concerns. favour of a concerns. am i in favour of a ban? no. i mean , i would ban? no. i mean, i would question that polling to 86% of people or whatever it is in favour of a ban. >> i think i think it was probably polling from a liberal lot in islington who don't want anyone to have any fun in some fire station bazaar. so i think there's a difference between pubuc there's a difference between public events where you have fireworks and they're monitored and safety, health and safety . and safety, health and safety. yes. sadiq khan, sadiq khan did call the fireworks in london, the annual fireworks event in london. my i know my fireworks night and then he did another tweet where he didn't call it my. i think he realised how, you know, self—important that sounded. but ben so public events, health and safety concerns are taken into account.

people buy tickets or there are free shows. is there a difference between that and, say, people letting off catherine wheels in their gardens ? gardens? >> i think we've just got to stop regulating against everything that we might not entirely agree with. we've got far too much regulation in this country. need to paring country. we need to be paring back regulation. we need look back regulation. we need to look at issues. i'm at the root cause of issues. i'm not i'm not talking not talking i'm not talking about fireworks per se. but the root cause of issues and deal with that than with that rather than anti—social behaviour, anti—social the anti—social behaviour. the marches, if you like, you know, don't ban the marches. make sure that multiculturalism begins to work. cut back on immigration, get people to buy in to british values, get society back to being homogenous, make work pay so people aren't sleeping rough. all these different things. >> it's a short list. >> it's a short list. >> just a short. i mean, you can go on and on and on and it's one of the. but you can't ban everything. >> let's be honest. it's one of the few traditions that we're a bit like christmas. it's one of the few traditions that we've got left as a country that tends to people together. to bring people together.

absolutely. even catholics love bonfire don't so it bonfire night, don't they? so it kind unites people across the kind of unites people across the divide largely . it brings divide largely. it brings communities together. i live in a village and i live right next to the village field. and last night they had a public firework display . hundreds of people from display. hundreds of people from the village came along, mostly kids, they had their great kids, and they had their great community sparklers, apparently. and real good community and it was a real good community feel. >> poll only only 14% of >> another poll only only 14% of us are even bothering to go to a fireworks event. let me know at home if you've been to one this weekend or you're planning to set fireworks off in your set some fireworks off in your in garden. think we've in your garden. i think we've got to have the freedom to do that. i think we remember that. i think we do. i remember as a kid, my dad used to set fireworks off on bonfire night in and it was all fun in the garden and it was all fun and games. >> was often there was often >> it was often there was often fireworks my parents. fireworks between my parents. >> we're celebrating an >> and we're celebrating an attack parliament. that's attack on parliament. and that's got celebrating. got to be worth celebrating. >> we go. we've got >> well, there we go. we've got lots more coming up. we'll cross to aviv to the latest on to tel aviv to get the latest on the suspension israeli the suspension of an israeli minister appeared minister who appeared to entertain of israel entertain the idea of israel carrying nuclear strike on

carrying out a nuclear strike on gaza. in

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carrying out a nuclear strike on gaza . that was in an interview. gaza. that was in an interview. we'll get to the bottom of that one. and with the eyes of the world on conflict between world on the conflict between israel and are we israel and hamas. are we forgetting about the ongoing war in ukraine? i'll speak to an expert on that. and zelenskyy claims focus on the conflict claims the focus on the conflict in the middle east is benefiting vladimir as the ukrainian vladimir putin as the ukrainian president pleads with the west to not relent in its support for his country . to not relent in its support for his country. he to not relent in its support for his country . he then, the end his country. he then, at the end of houn his country. he then, at the end of hour, benefits claimants of the hour, benefits claimants in some areas are still 125% higher than before the pandemic. the number of people claiming benefits still remains higher than before covid. so are brits more reliant on state support following the pandemic? please do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gb views at gbnews.com. send me a message on our socials. we're at gb news. but first, it's the news with sophia . sophia. >> thank you, emily. good afternoon . it's 2:01. i'm sophia afternoon. it's 2:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . prime

wenzler in the newsroom. prime minister rishi sunak and home secretary suella braverman have expressed concern about further pro—palestine protests during armistice day . the police met. armistice day. the police met. commissioner sir mark rowley has promised to take a robust approach and to use all the powers available to ensure all commemorative events are not undermined . and deputy prime undermined. and deputy prime minister oliver dowden says armistice day should be about honounng armistice day should be about honouring the sacrifices made by previous generations . previous generations. >> i have really grave concerns about this and i think that certainly representing a large jewish community as i do, but it's broader than the jewish community we should be honouring and respecting the sacrifice this made by previous generations . and we certainly generations. and we certainly shouldn't have the kind of intimidation that you see in those marches . those marches. >> meanwhile, shadow defence secretary john healey says we live in a democracy and must balance the right to protest. >> it's an operational decision for the police. they are talking to the protest organisers who want to show their solidarity

with palestinians and they're looking at a different place in london at a time. two hours after the remembrance service at the cenotaph and i hope we'll be able to get to a situation where we're not banning the right of protest , but we're absolutely protest, but we're absolutely ensuring that the remembrance , ensuring that the remembrance, recognition and honour of those people who've served and fallen to defend us in this country is fully respected . fully respected. >> boris johnson is visiting idf soldiers in jerusalem in a show of solidarity. australia's former prime minister scott morrison and the former prime minister boris johnson arrived this morning and were greeted by israel's former ambassador to the un, danny danon. they'll visit israel's southern communities and later , mr communities and later, mr johnson is expected to meet with israeli president isaac herzog . israeli president isaac herzog. hezbollah claims to have struck a vehicle near an israeli military outpost on the border with lebanon. there are reports of casualties, but no confirmed from israeli authorities so far .

from israeli authorities so far. the incident took place near the border outpost in yiftah. there are several videos on social media showing sustained gunfire in the area around the israeli outpost . the window for civilian outpost. the window for civilian evacuations from north gaza to the south has now closed . antony the south has now closed. antony blinken has left israel to continue humanitarian talks in turkey with foreign ministers as the us secretary of state met with palestinian president mahmoud abbas in an unannounced visit to ramallah in the west bank. president abbas told him an immediate ceasefire is needed.the an immediate ceasefire is needed. the pair also discuss getting more aid into gaza and efforts to restore stability to the west bank. the foreign office is pressing for the rafah crossing to reopen to allow uk nationals to escape gaza. 112 people were expected to leave yesterday when the crossing was temporarily closed. it is unknown how many, if any , were unknown how many, if any, were able to make the journey . unknown how many, if any, were able to make the journey. in a statement, a spokesman described the situation as disappointing and said they remain in contact

with british nationals in the region . the hamburg airport region. the hamburg airport hostage situation has ended, according to police in germany. it's after an unarmed it's after an armed 35 year old man used a vehicle to break through security onto a runway with a four year old child in the car. the suspect and his daughter exited the car, ending an 18 hour ordeal that had closed northern germany's busiest airport. police say it is likely airport. police say it is likely a custody dispute was to blame and the suspect was arrested without resistance and the child appeared not to be injured . and appeared not to be injured. and prince william has arrived in singapore to attend the 2023 earthshot prize ceremony . the earthshot prize ceremony. the prince of wales is hosting the united for wildlife global summit in conjunction with his earthshot environmental initiative . he hopes to shine initiative. he hopes to shine a spotlight on southeast asia's role in the illegal wildlife trade. the earthshot award on tuesday will see five category winners presented with £1

million each to scale up their environmental ideas. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on your digital radio and car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to . emily >> thanks, sophia. now 88 british nationals have been prevented from crossing the border into egypt. officials temporarily closed the rafah crossing after accusations swirled about hamas infiltration in the foreign office has been pressing for its reopening and expects a resumption within days. arab nations have demanded a ceasefire from the us secretary of state as he heard their concerns in jordan yesterday. an idea repeatedly rejected by the states and israel. this comes as explosions rocked the lebanese border following israeli airstrikes. the lebanese terror group hezbollah has threatened full scale war if israel escalates its violence. so let's speak to our security editor, mark white, who has the very latest . mark,

who has the very latest. mark, can you bring us the latest on developments ? well al, we've developments? well al, we've just been hearing from daniel hagari, the rear admiral from the idf , who is the spokes the idf, who is the spokes person that we normally hear from twice a day today, is giving a special briefing and he's giving it in english. >> this is designed for an international audience. and i think to address the growing international concern about the humanitarian toll that is being exacted on gaza, he has been at pains to point out during this address that israel has done all it can to try to persuade the people of gaza to move north to the relative to move south, i should say, to the relative safety of southern gaza. and he's been showing the leaflets that they've been dropping a million on 1.7 million leaflets

that have been dropped in recent days over northern gaza and gaza city to try to encourage people to move south. he said that close to 7 million records recorded telephone calls were made about the same again in terms of text messages . rs terms of text messages. rs 20,000 actual voice calls with live people on the other end trying to plead with people to move south. and what he says is that often the people they talk to say that they've tried to get south, but their route has been blocked by hamas, sending them back to northern gaza again. he's also been highlighting how hospitals are being used very cynically by hamas to put their terrorist infrastructure, including their tunnel systems. we'd heard just a week or so ago about al—shifa hospital, we'd heard just a week or so ago about al—shifa hospital , the about al—shifa hospital, the main hospital in gaza. that according to the idf, has the

hamas command and control headquarters right underneath that hospital. well, now he's highlighting and giving evidence, video evidence of two other hospitals , the qatari other hospitals, the qatari hospital and the indonesian hospital and the indonesian hospital in in gaza, where he said and again, he's shown video of this tunnel systems have been uncovered right to next the hospital complex. it's self and troops who have been uncovered in these tunnel complexes have come under fire from fighters within the hospital. so i think the complexity he is certainly very known about in terms of i think most honest people know that it think most honest people know thatitis think most honest people know that it is a very difficult situation that the israelis are facing on the ground with hamas embedded within the civilian community there . but i think community there. but i think this news conference in english with the videos to accompany it is really just about trying to

get it over to an international audience, that this is what the idf is up against. it's not as straightfonnard as the idf deliberately bombing civilians. they are. they say , trying their they are. they say, trying their level best to get people out of harm's way . harm's way. >> and mark, boris johnson has arrived in tel aviv . arrived in tel aviv. >> yes, he's here with former australian prime minister as well. they are. they have gone down south, really to speak to idf forces down there who are preparing to go in to confront hamas. they've been seeing themselves. what happened to the communities in southern israel. and i think his visit will certainly be welcomed because whatever the controversies surrounding boris johnson, i think it was probably quite widely accepted that he played a pivotal role with the ukrainian

war leading the international efforts to support ukraine in that conflict . and so i think that conflict. and so i think israel will see him as an important voice to have come to have seen and to really back to the world the importance of israel continuing with its mission to destroy hamas and just lastly, mark, there has been some some uproar, some concern over what an israeli junior minister said in an interview about essentially dropping a nuclear bomb on gaza was one of the possibilities . was one of the possibilities. >> in quotes, he he, of course, is not does not hold any sway over over government decision making when it comes to this war. but nonetheless not not great for the israeli government and benjamin netanyahu . and benjamin netanyahu. >> yeah i mean i just think clearly unguarded comments which show no understanding really of what's going on. no one could ever even if they were so

extreme countenance putting a nuclear bomb in gaza for a start, it's right to next israel's population centres. everybody would be affected by that. everybody here just feels that. everybody here just feels that the comments by the heritage minister are ridiculous. but he has been suspended from the government. he was not in any kind of position to sway or hold any kind of influence over the war cabinet. he wasn't a member of the war cabinet, so i think most people here just are not putting much store by what he's saying. but of course , there will be but of course, there will be people in the international community who seize upon this as a mindset within some of the israeli political class who would like to see a much more hard line taken against the hamas terrorists and against, of course, gaza. but but as i say, he's been suspended , ed, for the

he's been suspended, ed, for the time being. anyway >> yes. and what he said was immediately denounced by cabinet members. so there you go. thank you very much indeed. mark white, our security editor, live from aviv with the very from tel aviv with the very latest from the conflict. so let's speak my panel about let's speak to my panel about what been hearing. what we've just been hearing. i'm joined by trade unionist and writer and the deputy writer paul embry and the deputy leader of the reform uk party, ben thank you very much ben habib. thank you very much indeed on the indeed for joining me on the show . so these comments from show. so these comments from this israeli junior minister, he's been suspended , needed the he's been suspended, needed the rest of the cabinet have denounced what he said. should that be the end of it? >> well, i hope it is the end of it because it was a stupid and a crass and a dangerous thing to have said. and i think the danger is, emily, it does show how sometimes these things have got the potential to blow up into something much bigger than people or people realise was the case originally. i mean, i always cite the shooting of archduke franz ferdinand in sarajevo in 1914 when that

happened. absolute nobody thought there was going to be a european war. not even the european war. not even the european powers themselves. in britain we thought it was some little local dispute in the balkans and no one anticipated that within four weeks, the whole of europe would be in flames. and there would be this huge conflagration . and i just huge conflagration. and i just think that when you look at the complex network of alliances around the middle east and we touched on in the first hour of the show, you've hezbollah the show, you've got hezbollah in which is backed by in lebanon, which is backed by iran, by behind iran is iran, standing by behind iran is china and russia . you've then china and russia. you've then got israel, which backed to got israel, which is backed to the by america. and you the hilt by america. and you know, slightly lesser know, to a slightly lesser degree, i guess britain and others , then all it takes is one others, then all it takes is one stupid mistake by someone in power, whether it's, you know , power, whether it's, you know, arguing that there should be a nuclear strike and all of a sudden that network of alliances may start to kick in and the stakes might start to rise . so stakes might start to rise. so absolutely stupid thing to say. and he should be banished from pubuc and he should be banished from public life for a long time, think. >> and he has reportedly

backtracked and said anyone reasonable that backtracked and said anyone reascomment that backtracked and said anyone reascomment was that backtracked and said anyone reascomment was metaphorical. at the comment was metaphorical. but we have some but i believe we have some breaking news. we have some breaking news. we have some breaking news. we have some breaking news. humza yousef's family have returned home so they are safe. that's yousef's in—laws. they've returned home. the snp leader has confirmed that they are safe and back home after four weeks in gaza. we know, of course , the first know, of course, the first minister in scotland has been very concerned about his in—laws who have been in gaza over the past four weeks. so they are i can tell you now, they are safely back in the uk . can tell you now, they are safely back in the uk. humza yousaf, of course, did spark some controversy over saying that scotland would welcome refugees from gaza. that sparked a lot of debate. he, of course, does not have the power to do so with his position, but this is good news. yousef's in—laws have returned home. they are safe and sound after four weeks in gaza . sound after four weeks in gaza. ben well , i sound after four weeks in gaza. ben well, i mean, i think paul was absolutely right. >> you don't want government ministers advocate creating nuclear war at their doorstep . i

nuclear war at their doorstep. i mean, it's as daft as brushes, but point marc but the important point marc touched on it at the end is it shows a kind of contempt for the palestinian within the palestinian people within the israeli government and you know what? israel really needs to do in its own interest is to carry pubuc in its own interest is to carry public opinion with it over the next few weeks, months, if necessary, if this awful war continues for months, it needs to carry that public opinion. if the impression is created that actually there is contempt for human life in gaza at the highest level in israeli government, that support for israel will evaporate . they have israel will evaporate. they have to tread a very careful line. as i mentioned in the first segment of this programme, you know, the further we get away from the 7th of october, the more we the of october, the more we see the death destruction in gaza, death and destruction in gaza, the less sympathy there's going to israel anyway . israel to be for israel anyway. israel needs do some very clever, needs to do some very clever, careful joined up thinking and diploma ac on the next steps that they're going to take in gaza. it's not sufficient to talk just now about the elimination of hamas.

talk just now about the elimination of hamas . they need elimination of hamas. they need to talk about what comes next, what is the settled future for gaza. they've got to carry the internet right now. they've got the us , they've got the uk, but the us, they've got the uk, but they can't rely on that ad infinitum . and so they've got to infinitum. and so they've got to have some joined up thinking they've got to do it faster and ministers like that should be hounded of office. i hounded out of office. i completely paul. he completely agree with paul. he should public office. should never hold public office. >> worth saying mark white >> and worth saying mark white was reiterate noting the fact that hamas do use their citizens as human human shields. >> i mean, hamas. they have their headquarters and their military. >> i mean, in in civilian buildings within civilian areas . buildings within civilian areas. thatis buildings within civilian areas. that is worth reiterating . but that is worth reiterating. but it doesn't seem to get through to a lot of people who are watching this. >> it's absolutely i'm glad you said it. it's absolutely crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, it. it's absolutely crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, that's absolutely crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, that we bsolutely crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, that we make ely crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, that we make it/ crucial >> it's absolutely i'm glad you sal, that we make it utterlyl , al, that we make it utterly clear that what israel is fighting is a terrorist organisation , an organisation organisation, an organisation that doesn't care for its own people, an organisation that knowingly put its own people at

risk when it invaded israel, it knew what was going to happen . knew what was going to happen. this was all done with the perfect knowledge that israel would have no option but to hit back and hit back hard. so hamas doesn't care for its own people. iran, who are the puppet masters of hamas, couldn't care about the palestinians. hezbollah couldn't care about the palestinians and leaders in qatar and leaders in qatar couldn't. and actually, to be frank, the vast majority of arab nafions frank, the vast majority of arab nations don't care about the palestinian people. and we're going to come back to this, ben. >> we could talk we could talk forever. but you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. come me, emily carver. we'll come back discussion. lots back to this discussion. lots more today's show more coming up on today's show with tension heavily with the tension heavily focussed on israel and hamas, have forgotten another have we forgotten about another war? ukraine? war? the war in ukraine? zelenskyy biggest zelenskyy says it's his biggest fear. the stop fear. so should the west stop playing into hands? if playing into putin's hands? if you we are? all of that you believe we are? all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's channel .

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news is. welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver on your tv, online and digital radio. >> now with the eyes of the world on the conflict between israel and hamas are we forgetting about the ongoing war in ukraine? zelenskyy claims

that the focus on the conflict in the middle east is benefiting vladimir as ukrainian vladimir putin as the ukrainian president with the west president pleads with the west to relent its support , it to not relent in its support, it comes little progress appears comes as little progress appears to in the to have been made in the counteroffensive against russia. well, joining me now discuss well, joining me now to discuss this former british army this is former british army commander richard commander colonel richard kemp. thank much indeed for thank you very much indeed for joining i fear that we've joining me. i fear that we've neglected this subject over the past few weeks. of course, there is an ongoing war between ukraine and russia . can you ukraine and russia. can you bnng ukraine and russia. can you bring us the latest on the counteroffensive of . counteroffensive of. >> yeah, i mean, the counteroffensive has been going on for the last four months or so. >> so. >> even more than that. um well, very slowly . the ukrainians have very slowly. the ukrainians have been making very limited progress against very tough russian defences . and one of the russian defences. and one of the reasons for that is because they , they lack enough engineering equipment to get through russian minefields and other obstacles. they lack any significant air power and they don't they simply

don't have enough forces to make a breakthrough . and there have a breakthrough. and there have been a few relatively minor successes in different parts of the extensive frontline. but on the extensive frontline. but on the other hand, the russians have also been carrying out their own localised attacks into ukrainian territory in some places. so we've got a situation now which the chief of staff of the ukrainian army recently described a few days ago, described a few days ago, described as pretty much a stalemate without any great prospects of a significant breakthrough. now, he himself is saying that, which therefore suggests that that's probably the best position. it may be even a worse position than that. that now is a stalemate, could turn into a counter—offensive by the russians, perhaps in the spring. the weather now is deteriorating . so there's deteriorating. so there's limited scope for armoured manoeuvre, certainly in the next few months. and it's possible the russians might might, might having prepared might then make a major offensive into the

ukrainian front. >> richard, in your latest column for the telegraph published yesterday afternoon onune published yesterday afternoon online line, you say that ukraine is deprived of the weapons it needs to win. you argue that essentially they don't have the military capabilities needed . capabilities needed. >> they don't, although although the united states, in particular britain as well, and many other countries in the west have provided a significant amount of military support, as well as financial aid, economic aid, um , financial aid, economic aid, um, it just has not been enough . it just has not been enough. nowhere near enough to allow the ukrainians to push the russians back and the kind of what we've seen right since the beginning is a great deal of heel dragging on the part of president biden. other western leaders who have been reluctant to provide the ukrainians with the kit they need. and one of the reasons for their reluctance is fear of russia. so effectively , the west russia. so effectively, the west has been deterred by russia to

give ukraine the equipment it requires to make a major impact. and one example, two examples of that are attacking long—range missiles, which have only just been provided far too late. and the combat aircraft which haven't been provided at all. >> zelenskyy, of course , is >> and zelenskyy, of course, is very concerned that with attention now on the middle east, ukraine will go forgotten . east, ukraine will go forgotten. just very lastly, do we have an idea of the death toll ? idea of the death toll? >> i don't think it's really possible to give a realistic death toll from either side. there are numerous figures given out, but i wouldn't rely on any of them. the ukrainians are particularly careful about not saying what their death toll is, but we can be sure it's extremely significant on both sides. i would say great are on the side of the ukrainians and the side of the ukrainians and the russian side. one point i would make is, is this works extremely . the war in the middle extremely. the war in the middle east works extremely well for putin. he's a close ally of iran. he's a close ally of hamas, islamic state, and hezbollah. and so what whatever

discussions went on in the background before this began, whether russia was involved or not, i don't know. but it works really well for russia . really well for russia. >> well, thank you very much indeed. >> well, thank you very much indeed . former british army indeed. former british army commander, richard kemp. commander, colonel richard kemp. thank you for your time. commander, colonel richard kemp. thank you for your time . very thank you for your time. very concerning. i'll bring my panel in on this. paul i'll start with you. very concerned saying it is true and i imagine zelenskyy is very, very concerned. i believe he said as much and that eyes are now all on the middle east and this is benefiting as richard kemp says, they're benefiting putin. >> i think that's probably true and i think it's true also that we are very likely now into a war of attrition inside of ukraine. and unless , emily, ukraine. and unless, emily, somebody somewhere in a position of authority grasps the nettle and says, look, we need to find some way of getting negotiations going in a way that doesn't necessarily cause humiliation to

either side. you know, sometimes you have to swallow that unless someone someone does that. and i've been amazed , to be i've been amazed, to be perfectly honest, over the last 18 months or more however long this war has been raging at the absence of those voices , it absence of those voices, it seems me that in in other seems to me that in in other conflicts that have taken place over the years , we've always had over the years, we've always had a plethora of people in significant positions , whether significant positions, whether it's the united nations, whether it's the united nations, whether it's heads of religion, the pope or whoever it might be, statesmen, you know, try to get negotiations off the ground. they call for a ceasefire. there are voices for peace. and it seems to me that in this war, there's been so few of those voices, it's almost as if people have had an incentive to keep the war going. and i think that's really disappointing. but someone needs to grasp the nettle and start negotiating sooner rather than later, because othennise we're to going sooner rather than later, bec.more)thennise we're to going sooner rather than later, bec.more ofennise we're to going sooner rather than later, bec.more of this;e we're to going sooner rather than later, bec.more of this massre to going sooner rather than later, bec.more of this mass slaughter. see more of this mass slaughter. but ben, richard seems to suggest ukraine needs suggest that what ukraine needs more than anything more more than anything is more military capability. >> the suggestion is that the

west are not providing enough. do you agree with that assessment? >> well, i mean, the west has been at odds with itself over over the war in ukraine. you look at the sanction regime that was imposed on on ukraine for months and still continuing german be bought. russia, russia, sorry , sanctions on russia, sorry, sanctions on russia, sorry, sanctions on russia forgive me on russia sanctions on russia. germany went on buying russian oil and gas . went on buying russian oil and gas. ,50 went on buying russian oil and gas . ,50 billion was injected gas. ,50 billion was injected into the russian coffers . and into the russian coffers. and when they when they tried to cap the price on on on oil traded internationally by russia actually all that happened was they redirected trade to india into other countries that happily bought russian oil. we haven't had joined up thinking. but i think the most important point and paul touched on it is that if you're going to enter negotiations for settlement , you negotiations for settlement, you want to do it. when you're in the ascendancy. and i know you and i have talked about this many months ago, that there's always has always been an always there has always been an outside that russia would

outside risk that russia would withstand the assault from ukraine and that russia would then hit back and it might break out of the south—east of ukraine if russia succeeds in breaking the siege that ukraine has on it in that south eastern region, if it succeeds in coming back out and being expansive back in ukraine, the price for peace would go up dramatically for zelenskyy all the more reason to grasp the nettle. >> now i couldn't agree more and actually they should have grasped the nettle months ago when all the mood music was suggesting that ukraine was in the ascendancy and they didn't use that opportunity and everyone was beating their testosterone fuelled chests, talking about the need to beat russia. >> you don't beat russia. it's not going to happen. russia is a very well armed, very highly resilient nation . they will not resilient nation. they will not take a beating . they will keep take a beating. they will keep chucking people at it. well until they get a result that

they're happy with. and so we've got to take a pragmatic approach. and people like boris johnson , i know he's coming on johnson, i know he's coming on as a presenter here and i wouldn't wish to put myself out with boris, but people like bons with boris, but people like boris johnson, who banged the ukrainian looking ukrainian drum without looking at the implications of at the wider implications of what they're doing, need to rein it in a bit. >> it's interesting what you say because richard, there painted a very bleak outlook in terms of ukraine's prospects in this war. he says it's because their military capabilities aren't enough and we could be providing them with the tools. but you would say, i don't think you can beat russia. >> russia will not give in. russia will keep throwing people at it. >> very interesting indeed. let me know at home you think. me know at home what you think. you're watching and listening to gb emily gb news sunday with me, emily carver. we've got lots more coming on today's show. coming up on today's show. but first, the news first, let's get the news headunes first, let's get the news headlines with sophia . it'st first, let's get the news headlines with sophia . it's t oh 31. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . humza yousafs in—laws

newsroom. humza yousafs in—laws have arrived back in scotland after being trapped in gaza for more than three weeks. mr yousaf confirmed the news on x and posted a photo of the reunion, saying he's pleased his in—laws are safe and back home. the foreign office is pressing for the rafah crossing to reopen to allow uk nationals to escape gaza. allow uk nationals to escape gaza . 112 people were expected gaza. 112 people were expected to leave yesterday when the crossing was temporarily closed , crossing was temporarily closed, but it is unknown how many, if any, were able to make the journey . boris johnson is journey. boris johnson is visiting idf soldiers in jerusalem in a show of solidarity , australia's former solidarity, australia's former prime minister scott morrison and the former prime minister bons and the former prime minister boris johnson arrived this morning and were greeted by israel's former ambassador to the un, danny danon . they will the un, danny danon. they will visit israel's southern communities and later mrjohnson communities and later mr johnson is expected to meet with israeli president isaac herzog . president isaac herzog. hezbollah claimed to have struck a vehicle near an israeli military outpost on the border

with lebanon. there are reports of casualties, but no confirmation from israeli authorities so far . the incident authorities so far. the incident took place near the border outpost in yiftah. there are several videos on social media showing sustained gunfire in the area around the israeli outpost. the window for civilian evacuations from north gaza to the south has now closed at the hamburg airport. hostage situation has ended, according to police in germany. it's after an armed 35 year old man used a vehicle to break through security and onto the runway with a four year old child in the car. the suspect and his daughter exited the car, ending an 18 hour ordeal that closed northern germany's busiest airport. police say it is likely airport. police say it is likely a custody dispute. and the suspect was arrested without resistance and the child appeared not to be injured . and appeared not to be injured. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website, gb news.com stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com .

gbnews.com. >> thank you, sophia. lots more coming up on today's show. analysis shows there are still more people claiming benefits than before lockdown in parts of the country. has the pandemic made reliant on handouts? made us too reliant on handouts? i think it's probably a yes to that question. but first, let's take a look at the weather with jonathan. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. generally east is best for any bonfire night celebrations you're attending this evening . eastern areas will this evening. eastern areas will hold largely dry hold on to largely dry conditions and clear intervals throughout, in the west we throughout, but in the west we do have some showers to watch out particularly focus out for, particularly the focus across parts of northwest england they'll around the england. they'll be around the bristol way as well the bristol channel way as well the second night, second half of the night, beginning parts beginning to fringe into parts of kent as well. but of sussex and kent as well. but generally lot of dry, generally still a lot of dry, clear conditions around. and underneath that, some mist and fog will also fog will form and it will also turn chilly, particularly turn quite chilly, particularly for eastern scotland, where we certainly frost certainly can expect some frost to head into to develop as we head into monday. overall another to develop as we head into morofy. overall another to develop as we head into morof sunshine erall another to develop as we head into morof sunshine and another to develop as we head into morof sunshine and showers. day of sunshine and showers. those showers most frequent in the west once again could be

heavy times, maybe with some heavy at times, maybe with some thunderstorms and some as thunderstorms and some hail as well. sunshine in the well. still some sunshine in the mix, the prolonged mix, but the most prolonged sunshine eastern sunshine will be for eastern areas, but few showers just areas, but a few showers just beginning to migrate their way across eastern england across into eastern england later afternoon. later on in the afternoon. a breezy overall , but breezy day overall, but temperatures around where we expect the time of year expect them for the time of year between 10 and 14 c. as we head into tuesday, it will start off fairly showery once again. but this of high pressure is this ridge of high pressure is then going to start pushing its way in across the uk. so the showers ease off, the winds showers will ease off, the winds will lighter well and will turn lighter as well and into afternoon. generally into the afternoon. generally things drier for lot things will turn drier for a lot of areas and there will some of areas and there will be some sunny around to enjoy. sunny spells around to enjoy. for we start for wednesday, though, we start to see a more widespread band of rain sweep way rain beginning to sweep its way in. half of in. but into the second half of the week, first day friday, the showers return once again for the your day. bye bye. the rest of your day. bye bye. join us night gb news join us every night on gb news at 11 pm. for headliners, which is top comedians going is three top comedians going through the next day's news stories , which exactly what stories, which is exactly what you because when they you need because when they establishment gone crazy, establishment has gone crazy, you craziness make

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people injuring themselves. it's not fun . it's pointless. well, not fun. it's pointless. well, there are two very different sides of the debate on homelessness. we were talking about suella bravermans comments about suella bravermans comments about . some people thought about tents. some people thought her comments were perhaps a little callous, but a lot of you have been getting in touch. jeff says it's not homelessness that's a problem we've got over population shortages . population housing shortages. unfortunately, the unfortunately, very often the truth dave says when truth hurts. and dave says when you're earning so much in benefits plus money from begging, why would you change that? and live in a bedsit? well, i don't know, but i've got an here from peter, which an email here from peter, which is quite interesting. he says, i did work with the homeless in cambridge an attempt get cambridge in an attempt to get them streets. it was them off the streets. it was a thankless task. 2 came off thankless task. 1 or 2 came off the streets, but 99.9% of them liked living in the streets and had little interest in changing their different their lifestyle. it is different with our veterans who need support . braverman is correct in support. braverman is correct in her observation. well, thank you for writing in, peter, because her what she said did sound very, very harsh, but perhaps like with most of these things,

there probably is a little bit of truth to what she had to say. but let's move on, because we're going to talk about benefits because claimants because benefits claimants in some still 125% higher some areas are still 125% higher than the pandemic. that's than before the pandemic. that's according to analysis of official figures. the number of claimants increased by 1.5 million between march and august of 2020. they have fallen since, but the number of people claiming benefits still remains far higher than before the pandemic. so a bit more reliant on state support following covid and what can we do about this? let's see what my panel think about this, because, ben, i know you've got some strong thoughts on this one. you've had a look at well, haven't at the data as well, haven't you? well, i've been following this data, you know, all the way through pandemic because through the pandemic because it's acid test of the it's really the acid test of the economic impact of lockdowns. >> and so i've been very interested to keep in touch with this data daily mail this data and the daily mail from you were quoting is from which you were quoting is actually egging, not not actually under egging, not not not fully revealing how bad the damage if you look at damage is. if you look at government statistic and i checked them just before i came

on. excellent. your show, on. excellent. on your show, there 6.1 million people there are 6.1 million people claiming universal credit at the moment. how many? 6.1. 1 million people. and before lockdowns, it was at 3 million. in 2019, in and in 2018. emily it'll shock you to know that it was 1 million. so we've. hang on, hang on, hang on. >> 6.1 million people in this country are now claiming universal credit. some of them are 3 million. some of them are working for the pandemic. it was only 3 million, correct. and then a couple of years before that, it was million. that, it was only 1 million. >> a million. but there have been reforms to universal credit. >> yeah, but i mean, lot >> yeah, but i mean, a lot of the criteria required to claim universal credit during the pandemic were removed. >> more easily >> so people could more easily access money. but it it is access the money. but it it is it is an utter illustrate nation. we can debate lockdowns, but it's an utter illustration of the breakdown of our labour market. and, you know, we keep saying we've got to get immigrants in to do jobs. brits won't do well. you've got 6.1 million people, 2.1 million of

which aren't even looking for a job. and i think a very significant number of those claim mental health issues. we've got a completely broken labour market. and i would say that it's broken for a number of reasons, but a very significant part of that is because taxes are too high on the working and middle class is there's a very small gap now between the median wage after tax and what you can get on benefits and without wishing to diminish the need for people to get to claim benefits when they need to, there has to for an economic model to work have to be a gap between those two figures. >> it's the case, as i understand band, that you lose your benefits if you take on more hours above a certain point. i believe that's correct. so that also acts as another disincentive to take on extra hours, because if you're not going to be making any more money than you would othennise, what's point ? are people what's the point? are people making a rational decision? it's irrational. >> it well, they're rational.

they're behaving like rational individuals . but our our individuals. but our our economic policies are irrational and then we plug the gap with immigration, which, frankly, to call it. what it is, is a ponzi scheme, because you're taking in more people to solve a problem that should be domestically solved, creating longer , a solved, creating longer, a bigger long term problems for the country . it's a completely the country. it's a completely daft policy being pursued by government. >> interested in your >> paul i'm interested in your in your thoughts on this. the government for a long time heralded itself for having such a low unemployment rate, but that mask it. how many people were on out of work benefits ? were on out of work benefits? >> and i don't think we particularly these days make the world of work attractive to people. i mean , if you were people. i mean, if you were somebody and, you know, you haven't got a degree behind you, you were just an ordinary joe looking a and didn't looking for a job and you didn't necessarily have any particular particular skills or qualifications , the chances are qualifications, the chances are you're to going end up in the gig economy or you're going to be on a zero hours contract

somewhere, or you're going to be working as some sort of automaton in in a warehouse or automaton in a in a warehouse or automaton in a in a warehouse or a centre. know, being a call centre. you know, being treated a as a battery hen treated as a as a battery hen effectively. so in that respect, the world of good jobs, good especially blue collar jobs in working class communities and stable , solid industries, which , stable, solid industries, which, you know, were the backbone of many of our industrial heartlands, our working class, blue collar communities have disappeared. now we can have all sorts of debates around that, around issues such as productivity , we around issues productivity, we around issues such as globalised ation and competitiveness. but what is the impact on someone sitting there at home thinking, is it worth my looking for a job, going out to work? what am i likely to end up doing? so i think look, many, many people and ben did recognise it, many people on on benefits are working . we mustn't benefits are working. we mustn't forget mustn't give the forget that. we mustn't give the impression of these impression that all of these people benefits are all people claiming benefits are all idle all but you lose idle or they're all but you lose your if take on your benefits if you take on more, more work, which disincentivizes people to try and know. there's also

and you know. and there's also move career ladder you move up the career ladder you know extortionate the cost know the extortionate the cost of child care where people think, even in think, okay even if i'm in a relatively well—paid job, i've got to put my kid into childcare thatis got to put my kid into childcare that is going to eat up a large part my of my income, i part of my of my income, i think. and people may say this is in the sky. i think we is pie in the sky. i think we need to have a real hard think as a society about how we get back to a position where we can have wage. you know, we have a family wage. you know, we talk about living wage talk about the living wage a lot. we don't talk about the family wage. why don't we have an anymore where an economy anymore where a family can reasonable family can have a reasonable level of standard of living on the earner? we the wages of one wage earner? we don't that. most people are don't have that. most people are forced by financial imperative now out to work. and i now to go out to work. and i think that social think that creates social problems society. problems in our society. >> and we have we >> and of course, we have we have so many younger people in their 30s still living with mum and dad. very depressing state of affairs, lack of independence. but also i saw some quite shocking polling, not that long ago that showed a lot of young people don't believe that work will better their

lives, i.e. they don't believe that they're going to get anything substantial their anything substantial from their work. perhaps that's the housing crisis as well . well, how you crisis as well. well, how do you believe you're to able crisis as well. well, how do you bepurchase re to able crisis as well. well, how do you bepurchase one? to able to purchase one? >> houses are too expensive. taxes too high. taxes are too high. the incentive to work doesn't exist for various we've for the various reasons we've discussed. conservatives discussed. and the conservatives as we have presided over as we know, have presided over 13 years of breaking the economy . and, you know, one of the really interesting things i'll just quickly mention this is that the covid inquiry at that during the covid inquiry at least date, one's talked least to date, no one's talked about figure. no one's about this figure. no one's talked the broken labour talked about the broken labour market, the 2.1 million people with mental health issues who are not. >> it's all about rude whatsapp messages. >> well, this is what this is what was saying yesterday day what i was saying yesterday day on the saturday five talking about we focusing on about why are we focusing on whatsapp messages the whatsapp messages crazy and the coarse language used. we want to know whether lockdown was worth it, why it was decided, why all the different, you know, chops and all the rules. and changes in all the rules. anyway, move on, but get anyway, we must move on, but get in that topic. it's in touch about that topic. it's a it's controversial one. a it's a controversial one. benefits britain. do you believe

too too many people are on benefit benefits? is it their fault is it the government's fault or is it the government's fault? coming on fault? lots more coming up on today's should replace today's show. should we replace our with our government ministers with robots ? well, there's no sign of robots? well, there's no sign of that yet , but the that quite yet, but the government been trialling government has been trialling al to is that a to reduce workloads. is that a goodidea to reduce workloads. is that a good idea or a security risk ? good idea or a security risk? all of that and more to come. i'm calvi. watching i'm emily calvi. you're watching and to .

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people's. channel >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, emily carver. i'm on your tv, online and digital radio. now the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden , prime minister, oliver dowden, he's revealed that the government has been trialling using boxes to cut down on using i red boxes to cut down on their papennork . but considering their papennork. but considering all we've heard about the dangers of artificial intelligence this week, not least from the prime minister , least from the prime minister, is putting government documents into an ai bot really a good idea?i into an ai bot really a good idea? i want to get the views of my panel on this one. trade unionist and writer paul embry and the deputy leader of reform uk, habib, are still with uk, ben habib, are still with me. paul, do you think it's a goodidea? me. paul, do you think it's a good idea? perhaps a robot would do a better than a minister? do a better job than a minister? >> well, i would certainly vote in replacing in favour of robots replacing all ministers in any tory all tory ministers in any tory government to make it government once had to make it party political. once the tories government once had to make it par deselected,once the tories government once had to make it par deselected, then the tories government once had to make it par deselected, then we tories government once had to make it par deselected, then we torihave are deselected, then we can have are deselected, then we can have a discussion whether they a discussion about whether they should replace, you know, maybe certain labour ministers, but not starmer or a robot. not keir starmer or a robot. >> would you be able to tell the difference? >> maybe. we've already

>> maybe. maybe we've already got but you know, got one. but you know, maybe there's conspiracy . there's a conspiracy. >> know who would know, but would a robot have would they would a robot have made worse decisions? >> i mean, think the ai is >> i mean, i think the ai is a serious issue, carries potentially dangerous implications. i don't think we've really thought that through as a society. we but i'm not convinced that that robots would made decisions any would have made decisions any worse government over the worse than government over the last five years. >> are you well, i'd welcome any ai in government. it would be it would be a welcome and intelligent, wouldn't it? exactly. i, i it would be great. you know, putting stuff into ai bots . well, it all depends on bots. well, it all depends on who's controlling the database, doesn't it? i mean there must be some repository of this information somewhere and we're all led to believe that governments are under unhealthily close to large businesses , and i think there's businesses, and i think there's some truth in it. and as evidenced by rishi sunak speaking to musk at length the other day , i mean, do we really other day, i mean, do we really want government documents to be available to multinational companies who are running chat,

gpt or whatever, presumably what is in a minister's red box is the most sensitive documents in the most sensitive documents in the country? >> yeah . usually at the bottom, >> yeah. usually at the bottom, the civil service usually puts the civil service usually puts the most sensitive one up. >> i mean, we've heard stories of these kind of documents being left at bus stations and on on various public transport. so it's failsafe. but if a bot it's not failsafe. but if a bot was, organising your was, you know, organising your red box, would that be a bit of a security threat? >> oh, i think i think it probably i think we were probably would. i think we were talking regulation talking about regulation earlier. need earlier. i think we do need proper regulation of ai. we don't quite understand it. we don't quite understand it. we don't understand the don't quite understand the implications of it. tuc has implications of it. the tuc has said it's already having an said that it's already having an impact in the workplace . you're impact in the workplace. you're essentially having ordinary workers where ai is present in the workplace , even even running the workplace, even even running things like disciplines and grievances and hiring and firing around recruitment, hr issues, hr , hr management, in some cases hr, hr management, in some cases is being done by ai and the tuc has raised this and said, look,

this is why we need regulation. imagine we've already started enacting legislation in europe. we should follow a bot deciding whether you bullied your colleague or not. >> well, all i can say is that to the extent that i've used chatgpt and stuff like it, it comes back with a erroneous answers. i mean, i asked them to write an essay on me because i wanted to see what would come back. and they narcissistic back. and they got narcissistic or what they narcissistic. but i know truth about me. you know the truth about me. you know, that was yardstick know, that was the yardstick that use. and that i was going to use. and they came simply back with factual errors, multiple factual they came simply back with factua abouts, multiple factual they came simply back with factua about myiultiple factual they came simply back with factua about my pastle factual they came simply back with factua about my past and ctual they came simply back with factua about my past and what errors about my past and what i'd done and stuff. so yeah, well, there are these there are these ai generated wikipedia type pages , which i have no idea type pages, which i have no idea they're clearly operated by bots because they come up with the most weird facts about people . most weird facts about people. >> i think there's one about me that says i'm 42 and married with three kids in texas, so that's not me. it's just wrong. isn't it? there you go. right. we're going to to go to we're going to have to go to some because we're coming some emails because we're coming to the show. lots of

to the end of the show. lots of you been getting in touch. you have been getting in touch. what you say? greg what have you got to say? greg says, i've concerned why so many people don't appear to be alarmed over rapid rise of people don't appear to be ala not:i over rapid rise of people don't appear to be ala not only r rapid rise of people don't appear to be ala not only will rapid rise of people don't appear to be ala not only will itapid rise of people don't appear to be ala not only will it takerise of people don't appear to be ala not only will it take away: ai. not only will it take away all jobs, it's going to all of our jobs, it's going to control our defence systems. this summit has done nothing to reassure everything reassure me that everything will be think be fine. but do you think a robot, gary, would do a better job than, say, oliver dowden? perhaps says the perhaps not. michelle says the covid perhaps not. michelle says the covm just perhaps not. michelle says the covid just waste of covid inquiry is just a waste of time money. i think we've time and money. i think we've all some lessons. do all learned some lessons. why do we need to pay millions just to be we never have be told we should never have been down? and why been locked down? and kathy, why is israel? is it just is boris in israel? is itjust another stunt or will another pr stunt or will something actually come out of it? that's a very question. something actually come out of iithinkt's a very question. something actually come out of iithink he's very question. something actually come out of iithink he's probably question. something actually come out of iithink he's probably going tion. something actually come out of iithink he's probably going for|. i think he's probably going for good intentions, but whether he'll anything he'll actually achieve anything is keep your is another thing. keep your views is it views coming in. but that is it from today . but stay tuned from me today. but stay tuned because nana is next. nana because nana is up next. nana has appeared like magic. what's coming up on your show? >> well, i've got a very interesting interview with the former advisor to benjamin netanyahu , dr. ophir falk . he'll netanyahu, dr. ophir falk. he'll be talking to me. i think he spoke to boris earlier.

>> excellent. that'll be very interesting. >> talking to him. interesting. >> i've talking to him. interesting. >> i've got talking to him. interesting. >> i've got aalking to him. interesting. >> i've got a veryg to him. interesting. >> i've got a very exceptional mystery guest at just after 5:00. so you mustn't miss that. plus about the plus we're talking about the covid mean, is there covid inquiry. i mean, is there any point to it? mean, itjust any point to it? i mean, itjust seems to be he said he said on on and are actually on whatsapp and are we actually going to the bottom of going to come to the bottom of covid and what happened? so we're going to be discussing that as protesting. that as well as protesting. >> word on that. >> yeah, we had a word on that. just just now about whether the inquiry the right inquiry is asking the right questions. we're not questions. yeah, we're not so sure. on whatsapp sure. focusing on whatsapp messages, rude messages, i mean, and rude words. we really words. is that what we really want to want to know? well, thank you much to ben habib thank you very much to ben habib and embry for being my and paul embry for being my lovely panellists the show lovely panellists on the show today. been and today. you've been watching and listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me, thank you very me, emily carver, thank you very much for joining me, emily carver, thank you very much forjoining us this much indeed for joining us this afternoon. anywhere. afternoon. don't go anywhere. nana but first, it's nana is up next. but first, it's the . weather the. weather >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. generally east is best for any bonfire night celebrations you're attending this evening. eastern areas will hold largely

hold on to largely dry conditions clear intervals conditions and clear intervals throughout, but in the west we do have some showers to watch out particularly focus out for, particularly the focus across northwest across parts of northwest england they'll the england. they'll be around the bristol channel as well. bristol channel way as well. the second the night second half of the night beginning to fringe into parts of sussex kent as well. but of sussex and kent as well. but generally lot of dry, generally still a lot of dry, clear conditions and clear conditions around. and underneath mist underneath that, some mist and fog and will also fog will form and it will also turn chilly, particularly turn quite chilly, particularly for eastern scotland, where we certainly frost for eastern scotland, where we ce develop frost for eastern scotland, where we ce develop head frost for eastern scotland, where we ce develop head into rost to develop as we head into monday. it is overall another day of sunshine and showers. those showers frequent in those showers most frequent in the again could be the west once again could be heavy times, maybe with some heavy at times, maybe with some thunderstorms hail as thunderstorms and some hail as well some sunshine in the well. still some sunshine in the mix, most prolonged mix, but the most prolonged sunshine eastern sunshine will be for eastern areas showers just areas, but a few showers just beginning migrate their way beginning to migrate their way across eastern england across into eastern england later afternoon. later on in the afternoon. a breezy day overall , but breezy day overall, but temperatures where we temperatures around where we expect the of year expect them for the time of year between 10 and 14 c. as we head into tuesday, it will start off fairly showery once again. but this ridge pressure is this ridge of high pressure is then to start pushing its then going to start pushing its way in across the so the way in across the uk. so the showers ease off, the winds showers will ease off, the winds will lighter well and

will turn lighter as well and into afternoon. generally into the afternoon. generally things will turn for lot things will turn drier for a lot of there will be some of areas and there will be some sunny spells around to enjoy. for we start for wednesday, though, we start to a more widespread band of to see a more widespread band of rain beginning sweep its way rain beginning to sweep its way in. into the second of in. but into the second half of the friday, the the week, first day friday, the showers return again for showers return once again for the rest your

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