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escape from gaza . earlier, could escape from gaza. earlier, first minister humza yousaf posted a photo showing his in—laws . they've arrived back in in—laws. they've arrived back in scotland after being trapped in the strip for more than three weeks. egypt decided to suspend evacuations following a deadly attack on an ambulance bus. the met police say six people have now been charged after 29 arrests at pro palestine. protests in central london. it comes as the prime minister and the home secretary express their concerns about further demonstrations during armistice day. met police commissioner sir mark rowley has promised to take a robust approach to ensure commemorative events are not undermine ended and riot police are trying to control around 100 young people in the niddrie area of edinburgh with fireworks being thrown directly at officers . police scotland have officers. police scotland have confirmed that they've also been subjected to attacks from petrol bombs. buses have been cancelled, roads closed and the pubucis cancelled, roads closed and the public is being asked to avoid
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that area . okay, this is gb news that area. okay, this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's time for our headliners . our headliners. >> hello and welcome the headliners. i'm nick dixon, taking you through monday's top stories for the next hour. with the help of paul cox and the hindrance of louis shaffer, which i actually had planned as my intro. >> but he was being even worse than normal, trying to take a selfie when we've started the show. that's incredible . we're show. that's incredible. we're doing a story about selfies later, which which will resonate. are you doing, resonate. how are you doing, paul? i'm not even speaking. >> i'm good, nick. i mean, >> yeah, i'm good, nick. i mean, it's me by surprise. it's all taken me by surprise. this by standards. this is even by your standards. louis. i'm louis. this is amazing. i'm good. are you? good. nick, how are you? >> i'm well. and people encouraged this behaviour on twitter. bothers me. twitter. that's what bothers me. they'll when they'll be like, i love when louis because louis does his antics because
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they work here. they don't have to work here. i don't don't consider it antics. >> i i just think we >> i just i just think we should, know, i mean, this should, you know, i mean, this is someone just said to me, why is someone just said to me, why is guest sitting is the guest not sitting down the producer? is the guest not sitting down the proci cer? is the guest not sitting down the proci said, because >> and i said, because it's louis. that's sums it louis. and that's that sums it up. really it? all up. really doesn't it? all right. into that right. we'll get into that in a minute. but let's quick minute. but let's have a quick look at monday's front pages. so the mail has pressure on the daily mail has pressure on tories serial cover tories over serial rapist cover up . we're doing that in up. we're doing that in a minute. the telegraph met chief urged ban armistice protest urged to ban armistice protest at the express trade at the express brexit trade freedom boost for uk economy . freedom boost for uk economy. the guardian israeli strikes on gaza intensify as violence on lebanon border flares the eye uk's national security council not prepared for heightened terror threat and the daily star here we blow again , which i here we blow again, which i assume is about weather and those were the front pages . so those were the front pages. so have we got on the express, paul? well we've actually got a good news story. >> i think a brexit trade, freedom boost for uk economy. so this is kemi bacon. and today
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she blasts the brexit doomsters or doom mongers , as it says in or doom mongers, as it says in here, after a report shows leaving the eu has boosted uk trade and it gives some statistics actually , and this is statistics actually, and this is taking place between 2019 and 2022 and it says that good export goods exports rose from 13 by 13.5% to eu countries and by 14.3% to non—eu countries. >> and of course that 14.3, a large amount of that wouldn't have been possible without brexit. so on the surface, this is good news. now i say on the surface because there will be lots of doomsters out there who simply won't allow a good news brexit story. it's like it's impossible to them. however for the statistics don't lie. on this occasion, i don't think you know, there was also that thing where they thought we were going to in recession. where they thought we were going to thenrecession. where they thought we were going to then we lssion. where they thought we were going to then we actually weren't and >> then we actually weren't and germany were, which was total bounce. this bounce. but then again, is this just job this just kemmy's job to say this kind thing? do you kind of thing? what do you think, louis? >> don't i mean, >> well, we don't know. i mean,
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you it wouldn't have you say it wouldn't have happened unless we don't know how been if how much it could have been if brexit much brexit didn't happen, how much our exports . our imports or exports. >> you're like the kind of we could have locked down earlier. crowd we'd have crowd you're like, if we'd have not done brexit, it could have been better. yeah, been even better. yeah, well, you know. you don't know. >> don't know anything. >> and that's true of >> and well, that's true of us. three. yeah. yeah. >> stopped short there, >> you stopped short there, didn't >> you stopped short there, did you i don't know >> you say i don't know anything. thought you'd anything. you thought you'd introduce that. anything. you thought you'd intrand e that. anything. you thought you'd intrand you're that. anything. you thought you'd intrand you're right. that. anything. you thought you'd intrand you're right. i that. anything. you thought you'd intrand you're right. i mean, >> and you're right. i mean, it's not, you know. of course it's not, you know. of course it's the counter argument to this. in a time this. i just think in a time where single page is where every single front page is absolutely if it absolutely harrowing, even if it is up, absolutely harrowing, even if it is up, i'll take absolutely harrowing, even if it is as up, i'll take absolutely harrowing, even if it is as a up, i'll take absolutely harrowing, even if it is as a good up, i'll take absolutely harrowing, even if it is as a good story. i'll take it as a good news story. >> at least not a bad news >> at least it's not a bad news story. it's not saying it's down by 14. then you'd have to by 14. and then you'd have to hear the yapping, yapping, by 14. and then you'd have to hear thefrom wing, yapping, by 14. and then you'd have to hear thefrom wing, other ng, by 14. and then you'd have to hear thefrom wing, other side yapping from the other side saying things are saying how bad things are because brexit. saying how bad things are becbut) brexit. saying how bad things are bec but the brexit. saying how bad things are bec but the argument against your >> but the argument against your point, course, if point, louis, of course, is if we is germany, has been we is germany, he has been struggling pretty much struggling and pretty much all of so not the of europe. so it's not like the eu has crushing it without lis. us. >> us. >> yeah but but germany has >> yeah but the but germany has been because of its been struggling because of its of its of its gas situation where sacrifice where they actually sacrifice themselves for the ukrainian people for europe which. so you
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have to give those germans credit for doing what they did. so you're not comparing like to like no . like no. >> and it looks like >> and now it looks like germany, was always germany, which was always praised for its manufacturing, maybe a overreliant on maybe in a sense overreliant on manufacturing maybe in a sense overreliant on manufact|with russia and problems with russia and overreliance on russia. >> it goes goes back >> and it goes it goes back beyond the well, they beyond the ukraine. well, they started closing down coal started closing down the coal mines germany a time mines in germany a long time ago. some cases before we ago. in some cases before we did. and we all seem to sacrifice our fuel sovereignty for this greater team, world business. yeah. and it's backfired entirely . i don't say backfired entirely. i don't say too much on that because we're going to say a bit more about that later. >> and it's good that the eu is not doing too well. it's kind of like your ex doing that like your ex isn't doing that well. kind quite nice. well. it's kind of quite nice. yeah move on do the yeah let's move on and do the guardian then. louis oh, happy news. >> happy news. israeli strikes news. >> gaza wy news. israeli strikes news. >> gaza intensify sraeli strikes news. >> gaza intensify sra violence 5 on gaza intensify as violence on lebanon. flares and, you lebanon. border flares and, you know, you forget that israel is surrounded who surrounded by people who don't like and it's not just in like him. and it's notjust in gaza. and these are this is hezbollah, which is which is kind of like hamas , but fewer
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kind of like hamas, but fewer letters, i think a hamas, hezbollah and rocket rocket landed in northern israel and killed and killed an israeli . killed and killed an israeli. and there's been rocket attacks that have been going on in tel aviv right now as we speak. i mean, you've got to give the palestinians credit for being able to do this in the midst of this onslaught. well yeah. >> so israel had a strike and then hezbollah now hitting back on the border cities. and it just depends how far i mean, how far iran going to go. that's the big question. i think. iran. yeah, yeah, yeah. okay and hezbollah, mean, how far are hezbollah, i mean, how far are they course. yeah. same >> well, of course. yeah. same thing. i agree with thing. exactly. i agree with you, nick. well they're a sneaky bunch , you know, they're a wily bunch, you know, they're a wily old bunch. and you know, i can see a of this. i can see see a lot of this. i can see a lot of this being deliberate. you know, the strategic placing their headquarters under a hospital. i mean, absolute bants, say. and bants, as you would say. and i wouldn't surprise me if they put strategic positions on borders with lebanon well , because, with lebanon as well, because, of bombs dropping near of course, bombs dropping near
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lebanon. another sovereign country big news, country is big news, particularly for the pro—palestinian gang. >> concern is that >> yeah, my concern is that i mean, i don't know how you feel, louis, or israel, sort of. obviously, there's the horrific actual fighting and then there's the it the kind of pr battle. and it seems like israel has seems to me like israel has sympathy october sympathy following october seventh, of course, but then kind lost it to some degree, kind of lost it to some degree, whether fairly unfairly , and whether fairly or unfairly, and maybe because world has maybe because the world has moved neoliberal moved from a kind of neoliberal position this more kind of position to this more kind of leftist decolonise asian thing, team world, as you would call it , are they losing the pr battle ? , are they losing the pr battle? >> no. and because i've thought about and i'm probably about this and i'm probably wrong initially when wrong because initially when this i israel this happened, i said israel shouldn't doing shouldn't be doing this. but basically basically basically what israel basically the have switched is the positions have switched is the positions have switched is the palestinians and the palestinians have learned from the jews how to be victims. that's why they're always saying, oh, the children are being killed or the people are being killed or the people are being killed. we are the victims or the you know, the head guys are going around saying we're the the jews are the victims. and the jews are thinking we're thinking us like saying we're victims for us and victims hasn't worked for us and we're take on the we're going to take on the
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attitude of a of a dominant of a dominant people . and so i'm dominant people. and so i'm going to i'm going to hope i'm i'm going to i'm not going to hope. i'm saying israel might be right that that the israelis see that the jews were living there are going to out out crazy palestinian terrorists . palestinian terrorists. >> okay. i'm still not totally sure which side you're falling on, but yeah, i think it is. i personally think it's a shame. i'm not quite sure your exact point, but i think it's unfortunately the way you can. what's used israel what's being used against israel is palestine are is the idea that palestine are always you just always the victim and you just have say israel the have to say israel is the occupier. and it's quite a simplistic narrative. >> what's what's >> it's like, what's what's his name i forget who it was name said? i forget who it was who said one of the israeli presidents. he said, i think it's netanyahu it years it's netanyahu who said it years and years said, live and years ago. he said, we live in neighbourhood. in a tough neighbourhood. >> tough >> it's definitely a tough neighbourhood . neighbourhood. >> all right. well, on >> okay. all right. well, on that, have the pole. >> yeah, the i, i've gone with uk's national security council not prepared for heightened
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terror threat . quelle surprise. terror threat. quelle surprise. anti terror body which has been meeting in recent weeks to brief ministers on rising threats due to israel . gaza conflict is to israel. gaza conflict is under prepared to deal with the workload and they're saying this they being five serving and ex serving ex intelligence sources say that we're under resourced and there's been disruption because of the revolving door in the prime minister's office and, of course, that's left us in this kind of reactionary position. i mean, of course, we're not ready. and it's too much. no one's ever ready for this stuff. but i think half the problem is the system. the process all relies on politicians and civil servants . politicians and civil servants. if you told me m15 for instance, or the navy or the army were the people that would be leading on this, i'd feel a lot more relaxed. but when you introduce the emotion and the politics of civil servants and whatever colour politician it is, i think you're always going to be in a position you're
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position where you're underprepared. same. position where you're undthe epared. same. position where you're undthe epare(with same. position where you're undthe epare(with covid|me. position where you're undthe epare(with covid ore. position where you're undthe epare(with covid or any it's the same with covid or any big situation. you're totally reliant human behaviour. reliant on human behaviour. whereas i think with systems whereas i think with the systems that are into our to our that are built into our to our royal navy armed royal navy and the armed services , we've got a lot of, services, we've got a lot of, lot, lot of preparedness there that would help any of that would help us with any of this okay. this stuff. okay. >> well, sympathise >> well, i always sympathise with of this with anyone in charge of this kind thing because you hear with anyone in charge of this kind rumourswecause you hear with anyone in charge of this kind rumours that se you hear with anyone in charge of this kind rumours that are'ou hear with anyone in charge of this kind rumours that are sortwear with anyone in charge of this kind rumours that are sort ofr these rumours that are sort of 20,000 plus islamic extremists being times. being watched at all times. you just it's almost just think about it's almost impossible. and with these impossible. and now with these extra going and extra things going on and they're blaming the they're also blaming the so—called revolving door of prime i mean, it won't prime ministers i mean, it won't have helped, will it? no no. >> know what? it has nothing >> you know what? it has nothing to the prime minister's to do with the prime minister's office. core of office. it goes to the core of this country. country has this country. this country has had or more of peace had 07:30 years or more of peace after world ii. and we've after world war ii. and we've been lulled into this false thing that everything's all right. the world right. kumbaya. the world government, everybody's okay. let everybody come in, let the people come the people come in. and so the country is totally the people . country is totally the people. it's not just those the structures , the military. structures, the military. everybody is unprepared in this place. yeah. and all of we should be we should be scared to
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death right now . now, what's death right now. now, what's happened? yeah and, you know, if israel sort of let down its guard, you could understand what position we've we see as english people. yeah. >> because. and do you blame are you saying it's immigration massively going up post about 1997 or is that kind of thing we've been to complacent. >> yeah. and you know i mean as an immigrant and coming from a country of immigrants , uh, you country of immigrants, uh, you know, you shouldn't let people into the country that hate your guts as sleep. >> well, everybody sleep well. >> well, everybody sleep well. >> people should not sleep well. we are in a heightened bad. we're in a bad place. >> yeah, well, let's line up then with the cover of the daily star. lewis. is that any better? uh, it is. >> good news is that we have weather, and we can take our mind israel. basically mind off of israel. basically this happy, happy times. but this is happy, happy times. but it says for 70 mile per hour storms to batter britain here, here blow again . that's that here we blow again. that's that song. fantastic song. who sang that parton. here we
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that song? dolly parton. here we go again. and that's a dolly parton song. >> you probably don't know. it's a reference to that necessarily. >> anyway. okay. anyway, 70 mile per hour storms in america, even in new york, people would laugh at that number. small breeze, small breeze. >> i mean, anyone would think it was you're right. >> weather all right. well, there it is. that's for part there it is. that's it for part one. up, armistice one. but coming up, armistice day, build . why day, tensions build. why keir starmer and should starmer is weak and should suella spend time with the suella spend some time with the homeless? see
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radio . radio. >> welcome out to headline is i'm nate dixon still here with paul cox and lewis schaefer mp there he is. i've just given you a random title. yeah, yeah. why not? that would be mental person and md and md. yes, of course. you are a doctor. let's do the daily mail and further tension regarding the potential armistice day march. >> paul yes , yes. so ministers >> paul yes, yes. so ministers warned pro—palestine march on armistice day could trigger violence and a wave of anti—semitism as they up pressure on police to cancel gaza.eventin pressure on police to cancel gaza. event in london and home now let's just say up . i mean, i now let's just say up. i mean, i don't think it's a good idea, but it's going to happen. it should happen whether we have the to protest, you know, the right to protest, you know, it creates a right for it creates a right paradox for all us here because, all of us here because, you know, all free speech know, we're all free speech advocates. some of us are even free speech absolutist . so it free speech absolutist. so it
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would be kind of ironic if we were to counter this in some way. so if it is going to go ahead. i mean, yeah, i'll leave that up for debate, to be honest . i don't do believe it would . i don't i do believe it would be therefore be ironic, but so therefore it is happen . yeah. so is going to happen. yeah. so i think the best thing we can do is mean, i said is not react. i mean, i said this the other night. a lot of people that could react to this and about and feel passionate about this and feel passionate about this and do too , are and believe me, i do too, are watching this, watching this channel and probably watching this , if you this channel now, if you are going to on the streets of london next weekend with the sole reacting people sole aim of reacting to people walking past the cenotaph in some then we going some way, then we are going to lose battle. we are going to lose the battle. we are going to lose the battle. we are going to lose the thing lose the battle. the best thing that is let it happen. that we can do is let it happen. now, that could mean damage to the don't the cenotaph and i don't actually it go that actually think it will go that far. say it does. that far. but let's say it does. that would the other would expose the other side. >> talking about of >> are you talking about sort of pearl harbour approach? >> just that you know >> i just think that do you know what if we go what's the worst thing happen thing going to happen here? chaps jack chaps covered in the union jack fighting pro—palestine protesters. is absolute protesters. that is the absolute worst thing that can happen. so i we step back we let i think we step back and we let it know that's
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it happen. i know that's difficult. i know it's difficult in time, but think that's in this time, but i think that's the only way to win. >> agree because be >> i agree because they'll be framed we already framed as the enemy. we already saw the other they saw the other day, they were being having flags being told off for having flags on not on the barriers. you're not allowed on the allowed to have your flag on the barrier, well, what barrier, they said, well, what about people with the about all the people with the palestine palestinian i palestine palestinian flags? i said, far many said, well, there's far too many of them. okay. the police actually was actually admitted that it was the one these police the one of these police groups. so different so but i've got a different point yours. you're saying point to yours. you're saying we have for free have to allow it for free speech. but actually, the edl , speech. but actually, the edl, we're going to have a march a while ago and the met police commissioner appealed the commissioner appealed to the home we don't want home office said we don't want this ahead. and they this to go ahead. and they shut it the met it down. so why can't the met police the exact thing police do the exact same thing here? because edl are here? i mean, because edl are treated completely differently to b ut treated completely differently to but why should to this march. but why should they i'm not sure they be? so i'm not sure anymore. can there may anymore. we can have there may be a limit to free speech and it may be people who openly may be people who just openly want everyone in our want to kill everyone in our country. know do want to kill everyone in our courthink, know do want to kill everyone in our courthink, louis?now do you think, louis? >> i don't agree you >> i don't agree with you because i think i am a free speech absolutist and if these people to protest, they people want to protest, they should to protest. should be allowed to protest. they don't have to protest in front centre graph, front of the centre graph, the cenotaph on the on the most on
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the holiest day of the year for people to sit and the centre centre if they do what if they do? they should be free. if they say they're going to that the roads should be blocked off to prevent them from doing it and then should arrested . then they should be arrested. >> i mean, we're all that >> i mean, we're all aware that they route will they have said the route will not cenotaph. we're they have said the route will not aware cenotaph. we're they have said the route will not aware of cenotaph. we're they have said the route will not aware of that. motaph. we're they have said the route will not aware of that. iwotaph. we're they have said the route will not aware of that. i believe ve're all aware of that. i believe there will be separatist groups that will antagonise . and i that will antagonise. and i still and i'll say it and i'll keep saying it, don't take the bait. >> can i change my mind and agree with paul ? okay. agree with paul? okay. >> i think you might not be mutually exclusive . mutually exclusive. >> yeah, i think, you know, you let people you i personally, personally see you . i think you personally see you. i think you let them do what they want to do. and i think i think people are seeing it from what i can tell, enough people are seeing this is like the pearl harbour moment . moment. >> he's going to be the most protected monument in london next i don't think next weekend. so i don't think
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we have to worry about it getting damaged. >> wondering these days, >> i'm wondering these days, i have i'm have to say maybe i mean, i'm meant free speech. meant to be like free speech. absolutely. but i'm wondering these free speech these days, if free speech depends shared depends on certain shared cultural assumptions that we just more and just don't have any more and that have predicted. >> well, that's called decency predicted. >> itolerance.; called decency predicted. >> itolerance.; calle(that ency predicted. >> itolerance.; calle(that went and tolerance. and if that went in nine, eight, think , in about nine, eight, i think, yeah, we don't have anymore. >> we're not >> so we're not we're not equipped, as you said, for the >> so we're not we're not equi threats.w you said, for the >> so we're not we're not equi threats. so u said, for the >> so we're not we're not equithreats. so i said, for the >> so we're not we're not equithreats. so i almostwr the i new threats. so i almost want i do wonder and it is a do wonder about and it is a paradox, we paradox, as you said, how do we enforce western values enforce liberal western values and paradox of enforcing our values? >> well, that's implying that britain liberal western britain has liberal western values believes those values and believes in those values. and doesn't seem like values. and it doesn't seem like the british people or the or even believing it, many do anymore. >> that's also a problem. all right. do the eye then. right. let's do the eye then. and keir starmer has been called weak indecisive. for weak and is indecisive. i, for one, louis. one, am outraged. louis. >> , well, this i mean, >> yeah, well, this is i mean, obviously is baroness obviously this is by baroness warsi. warsi keir starmer is weak and failed to show leadership over labour splits on gaza. gaza ceasefire . oh, this gaza. gaza ceasefire. oh, this woman is a conservative and she actually quit the conservative party ten years ago over an earlier , more brutal attack that
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earlier, more brutal attack that the palestinians made on israel and then the fight back from the israelis and the point the main point she's making is that keir starmer should have done something else . but i don't know something else. but i don't know what he could do because most of the people who support the palestine situation are in his party. so either he goes against gaza completely and loses 3 million votes. >> yeah, he is the party of pro—palestinian protest. really? you know, i don't think that's oven you know, i don't think that's over. stretching it to say and he's got a very difficult job because he wants to be prime minister and prime minister of the can't be seen to be that the uk. can't be seen to be that partisan because that essentially some people's essentially in some people's eyes makes labour the party of anti—semitism because you can conflate the two quite easily. both israel and jewish people, people talk about are we? you can't put the two together. you can. it's one of the same thing in many ways is what i would say
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is starmer is trying to be all things to all men that never things to all men and that never works . i things to all men and that never works. i do things to all men and that never works . i do with him things to all men and that never works. i do with him on works. i do agree with him on his stance with regards to the ceasefire because he's absolutely right. if you if you take that to the nth degree and you say, oh, no, we should have a what you're a ceasefire, what you're essentially saying is hamas have got with what they wanted got away with what they wanted to get away with. and we're just going to stand back and let it happen because we're a good sports uk. that's sports here in the uk. that's that's that's not that cannot be the case. this is now war. it's a retaliation to an of a retaliation to an invasion of a retaliation to an invasion of a sovereign country . and i'm a sovereign country. and i'm afraid rules . afraid them's the rules. >> yeah, well, it's a very difficult position israel difficult position for israel because respond. difficult position for israel because the respond. difficult position for israel because the response'espond. difficult position for israel because the response getsnd. difficult position for israel because the response gets them difficult position for israel becau:by the response gets them difficult position for israel becau:by people ponse gets them difficult position for israel becau:by people throughoutthem difficult position for israel becau:by people throughout the] hated by people throughout the world like world or some people. and like you impossible you say, it's an impossible situation for because situation for starmer because he's councillors. he's losing muslim councillors. he's suspend andy he's had to suspend andy mcdonald. he's got an impossible thing as often say he's just trying to carry the ming vase and not drop it the next and not drop it for the next election, drop it election, but he could drop it over this morsi's comments election, but he could drop it oveathis morsi's comments election, but he could drop it ovea bit morsi's comments election, but he could drop it ove a bit strange. 'si's comments election, but he could drop it ove a bit strange. 'simean, ments election, but he could drop it ove a bit strange. 'simean, she ts are a bit strange. i mean, she left to because thought left to because she thought there towards there were too generous towards netanyahu were of netanyahu and they were sort of too time . but
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too pro—israeli at the time. but now it's not quite clear what she's here. starmer's now it's not quite clear what she' doing here. starmer's now it's not quite clear what she' doing what here. starmer's now it's not quite clear what she' doing what he always 'mer's now it's not quite clear what she' doing what he always does. just doing what he always does. like he's trying to like you say, he's trying to play like you say, he's trying to play the middle. play it down the middle. >> and i was wrong about starmer because months back because a few weeks, months back i that rishi sunak i thought that that rishi sunak and the tories had no chance in the world of winning . but i the world of winning. but i think this could be such a major split if starmer sides with the gazans or the palestinians. i think. i think enough people in the labour party will be disgusted by that. >> yeah , it could reduce the >> yeah, it could reduce the tory, the tory defeat, but i still think probably labour wins. sadly i don't. >> i think because people are beginning to see that there is a choice. like you said, we're not a united britain is not a united country. england is not, it's not united. and i think this is if he sides with the gazans , if he sides with the gazans, it's going to create a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction in. >> yeah, amongst some people. definitely. all right. let's do the guardian and rape claims against the tory mp were not covered up according to a tory
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mp. >> yes. there's no conflict of interest here whatsoever . nick, interest here whatsoever. nick, is there rape claims against tory mp were not covered up , tory mp were not covered up, says deputy pm. so this is oliver dowden, the deputy prime minister has denied that rape allegations against a conservative mp were covered up dunng conservative mp were covered up during his time running the party's headquarters. and of course i don't know whether this is true or false, but what i do know is never in history have i ever seen a politician retro actively admit to covering anything up so that's true. so. so you never set up guys. >> you never see a politician or do you just there chilling out with parkinson, god rest his soul with parkinson, god rest his soul, you know, just just there chewing the fat. >> later , going, well, of >> a year later, going, well, of course we covered stuff up. of course we covered stuff up. of course we covered stuff up. of course we did. do. what course we did. we do. yeah. what did you want us to do, mate? so, i mean, at the end of the day, it's important to point out, however, tory however, that former tory chairman in chairman jake berry, who was in in that from september to in that post from september to october 2022, sent a letter to
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the police in which he revealed that a number of allegations about an mp had been made known to the party, but only limited action had been taken. >> that could be the slogan of our country. action our country. now limited action has on, louis. but. >> but we don't know who the mp was at and we don't know what he what he did . and so it's a great what he did. and so it's a great story in many ways. this is a non—story. it's a non—story story. there's a non non stop which is available at my website at lewis schaffer co.uk. you can go to go to twitter and you can go to go to twitter and you can go to go to twitter and you can go to twitter and you can find out where my website is. well, unfortunately, we have to move on. >> on. >> lewis and let's do the i and suella braverman has been urged to time the to spend some time with the homeless it's really homeless to see what it's really like. would you let her in like. lewis would you let her in your tent? >> you know get lot of >> you know what? i get a lot of offers. a lot of offers. there are a lot of ladies out there for lewis schaffer a particular schaffer of a particular age. i'm candy . i'm schaffer of a particular age. i'm candy. i'm like, hey, i'm like candy. i'm like, hey, i got little of hair. i'm got a little bit of hair. i'm not fat. i'm over. i look amazing. have women amazing. i have no the women love the love lewis schaffer. even the younger but but what younger ones do. but but what she come, come see the
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she said, come, come see the reality of homelessness as charities tell braverman after a rough sleeping lifestyle choices remarks. well, she said that you know, people have people who are down and out choose to live in a tent and people have choices. tent and people do have choices. but one of the women i noticed this , one of the women who's the this, one of the women who's the head of the called homeless link , her name is fiona carly and she used to be a council person in my home borough of southwark. and was intimate as far as and she was intimate as far as i remember. if i'm wrong , you remember. if i'm wrong, you know, obviously i will do a full retraction is that she was involved with the complete destruction of one of london's largest housing estates, one of britain's one of europe's largest housing estate, the heygate estate . you can go to 35 heygate estate. you can go to 35 degrees website and you can find out all about it. where she destroyed thousands of housing units , making thousands of units, making thousands of people potentially homeless. and she's saying she's saying that ms braverman's comments were damaging and divisive. this is ridiculous that they have giving
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her the position for a homeless charity is like is letting hamas handle a jewish children's charity. >> yeah. and we should say because it's lewis that may all because it's lewis that may all be false. we really don't know. yeah you know what? >> if it may, i think i remember correctly. okay >> okay. well, what do you think, paul? i mean, what's braverman seems to mean is, you know, you can't come over and just sort of utilise this country and then just on country and then just stay on the like you can't use the street. like you can't use the street. like you can't use the system. maybe it's the street. like you can't use the the system. maybe it's the street. like you can't use the the bestystem. maybe it's the street. like you can't use the the best phrasing, iybe it's the street. like you can't use the the best phrasing, but it's not the best phrasing, but people with suella people get obsessed with suella braverman's phrasing. i'm always more actual more worried about the actual problem tackle it, more worried about the actual prolit's1 tackle it, more worried about the actual prolit's1 certain tackle it, more worried about the actual prolit's1 certain t.amongst but it's a certain thing amongst the managerial but it's a certain thing amongst the and managerial but it's a certain thing amongst the and the managerial but it's a certain thing amongst the and the sort anagerial but it's a certain thing amongst the and the sort ofagerial but it's a certain thing amongst the and the sort of garyil class and the sort of gary lineker's couldn'tcomment lineker's he couldn't comment on october 7th, but he popped up again go at suella again to have a go at suella braverman they're oh, again to have a go at suella braveterrible, they're oh, again to have a go at suella braveterrible, she's"re oh, again to have a go at suella braveterrible, she's inhumane. , she's terrible, she's inhumane. i'm more concerned about the actual tents on the actual problem of tents on the street homelessness street and homelessness in general, think? general, but what do you think? >> well, afraid to say >> well, i'm not afraid to say it. i mean, i suella braverman is to me. she is the is a local mp to me. she is the fareham mp, which is not far from from where live. i've not from from where i live. i've not voted conservative in my life . i voted conservative in my life. i don't know who to vote for any more, but i've never voted
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conservative. one thing i would say like braverman. say is i like suella braverman. i braverman is a i think suella braverman is a very home secretary. very good home secretary. everything about what she does is what you expect a home secretary to do. standing up for home. and that's what she's doing in this case. you know, it's difficult to defend her because she calls it a lifestyle choice . wearing crocs is choice. wearing crocs is a lifestyle choice. yes. being homeless. well some say that i adopted crocs last year and i've never looked back. nick however, it's not a lifestyle choice. what she is saying , though, is what she is saying, though, is it's all part and parcel of this immigration problem. you can just over here, pitch a just come over here, pitch a tent up somewhere in london and all a sudden, you've all of a sudden, yeah, you've got home. all of a sudden, yeah, you've got wewome. all of a sudden, yeah, you've gotwe don't all of a sudden, yeah, you've got we don't want francisco >> we don't want san francisco in london. i mean, elon musk pointed out francisco a pointed out san francisco is a disaster. it's governed terribly. the terribly. he actually made the great that twitter great point that what twitter was took over was doing before he took over was doing before he took over was that to whole was exporting that to the whole of world. philosophy of the world. the philosophy that that's what that caused that. so that's what we want leftist we don't want is the leftist philosophy to philosophy that leads to homeless camps. but we've got to go. that go. unfortunately, that is it for but coming blm for part two. but coming up, blm refused to stand forjewish refused to stand up for jewish people. refuse to teach
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radio. welcome back to headliners. >> let's get into it with the telegraph. and lord sumption has implied the covid inquiry is useless and fair enough. although we do get to hear dominic cummings call everyone a bleeping bleep pig, which is always entertaining . always entertaining. >> he's very entertaining, but for wrong reasons, as for all the wrong reasons, as i
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shall in a minute. covid shall say in a minute. covid inquiry missing only useful purpose . and that's find out purpose. and that's to find out whether lockdowns work. the purpose. and that's to find out whethinquironwnswork. the purpose. and that's to find out whethinquiry hasis work. the purpose. and that's to find out whethinquiry has awork. the purpose. and that's to find out whethinquiry has a built the purpose. and that's to find out whethinquiry has a built in the covid inquiry has a built in bias in favour of lockdowns, says a former supreme court judge. and i agree. i completely agree . i think we ultimately we agree. i think we ultimately we already know that lockdowns were bad. i think what we could do with this investigation in what worked and what didn't so that we could prepare for the future instead. haven't got any of instead. we haven't got any of that. got is stuff we that. what we've got is stuff we already know, finding out that politicians dominic cummings already know, finding out that poliinepts dominic cummings already know, finding out that poliinept or dominic cummings already know, finding out that poliinept or rude jminic cummings already know, finding out that poliinept or rude or, nic cummings already know, finding out that poliinept or rude or, yoqummings already know, finding out that poliinept or rude or, you knowings already know, finding out that poliinept or rude or, you know ,|gs are inept or rude or, you know, profanity is their speciality . profanity is their speciality. we're not finding out anything new there. we do need to find out because one thing that's never going to happen now is this generation, our generation , this generation, our generation, probably our children's generation , too, are never, ever generation, too, are never, ever going to be forced to lockdown again. we if we've learned one thing from this inquiry so far, is they didn't have a clue. they didn't have clue. they locked didn't have a clue. they locked the whole country down and
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ruined out a clue. ruined lives without out a clue. >> unfortunately, i have to question some of those assumptions because i'd love us to lock again. and to never lock down again. and maybe also maybe you're right. and i'd also love realise you said maybe you're right. and i'd also love the realise you said maybe you're right. and i'd also love the one realise you said maybe you're right. and i'd also love the one thinglise you said maybe you're right. and i'd also love the one thing we you said maybe you're right. and i'd also love the one thing we realisedi that the one thing we realised is lockdowns bad, but is that lockdowns are bad, but of course haven't because of course we haven't because there that there was a times poll that showed, among 15 to showed, especially among 15 to 24 or something, 18 to 24 year olds or something, 18 to 24, it 24, something they thought it should and should have been more harsh. and lots realised lots of people haven't realised lockdowns covid lockdowns are bad and the covid inquiry is refusing to it. inquiry is refusing to admit it. there's should have there's talk that we should have locked and the only locked down earlier and the only people get in people that really get in trouble cummings trouble are hancock and cummings because of easy because they're sort of easy targets. hancock quite rightfully, they don't make rightfully, and they don't make any progress. and what any progress. and that's what lord sumption is saying. so do you think it's accepted you really think it's accepted that lockdowns bad by the that lockdowns are bad by the majority ? m ajority? >> interesting >> well, that's an interesting question demographic question. the demographic that you of, then, i think it you spoke of, then, i think it didn't impact them enough for them to know. i mean , i would them to know. i mean, i would say i would say no. i would say it's lockdowns great if you don't have to pay a mortgage. lockdowns great. if you didn't have a job go to anyway, have a job to go to anyway, lockdown great. just lockdown is great. if you just want netflix, all day want to watch netflix, all day for great for three years, that's great for three years, that's great for not good for for that. but it's not good for your it's your mental health. it's not good not good for the economy. it's not
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good for the economy. it's not good person. good for the working person. i would say the generation slightly younger than were slightly younger than that were affected 14, had who is now 14, she had a terrible time as a result of the lockdown. >> yes. but she believes in the lockdown, as nick says. i don't think well, i don't know is never underestimate how how how stupid. most people are. not the people watching me loving me. you're are amazing . you're amazing. you are amazing. but people are stupid . they're but people are stupid. they're stupid. and covid is a complete lie from start to finish. and this guy sumpton, it was a hero back in the day. if you remember i >> assumption. yeah, yeah, yeah , >> assumption. yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. he spoke out against it and he's saying this is just focusing on trivia. i think many people agree. you've said that focusing on trivia. i think many pe0|inquirywe. you've said that focusing on trivia. i think many pe0|inquiry is you've said that focusing on trivia. i think many pe0|inquiry is not�*ve said that focusing on trivia. i think many pe0|inquiry is not getting that focusing on trivia. i think many pe0|inquiry is not getting to it this inquiry is not getting to the heart of it. we're not asking questions. the heart of it. we're not askiw i 3 questions. the heart of it. we're not askiwi] just questions. the heart of it. we're not askiwi] just qunforons. and i should just say for balance, think covid balance, some people think covid was whatever you just said. balance, some people think covid was didwhatever you just said. balance, some people think covid was did youwver you just said. balance, some people think covid was did you say you just said. balance, some people think covid was did you say whatever.aid. balance, some people think covid was did you say whatever your yeah. did you say whatever your word you said? >> it's not a thing. >> it's not a thing. >> some people >> not a thing. some people think a thing. >> not a thing. some people thiri. a thing. >> not a thing. some people thir i. a it's1g. >> not a thing. some people thiri. a it's a. >> not a thing. some people thiri. a it's a little bit of >> i mean, it's a little bit of a thing, but it's not a thing the they it thing. the way they made it a thing. and getting covid and people are getting covid now. 4 people now. i'm getting 3 or 4 people have pve
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now. i'm getting 3 or 4 people have i've got covid. have said, oh, i've got covid. he was diagnosed. why would you even right. you've even get tested? right. you've got even have it got to be insane to even have it right room. right now in this room. >> let's the >> yeah. so let's do the telegraph black lives matter telegraph and black lives matter activists failing activists are failing to speak out anti—semitism. who'd activists are failing to speak out thoughti—semitism. who'd activists are failing to speak out thought it? emitism. who'd activists are failing to speak outwhowught it? emitism. who'd activists are failing to speak outwhowught ithave tism. who'd activists are failing to speak outwhowught ithave thunk vho'd activists are failing to speak outwhowught ithave thunk it?w'd activists are failing to speak outwhowught ithave thunk it? oh, >> who would have thunk it? oh, yeah. black lives matter activists to speak activists are failing to speak out antisemitism , says our out about antisemitism, says our friend dowden again. no poo, sherlock. i mean, blm aren't interested in social justice, for a start. so, deputy pm has said he is disappointed that blm activities are not showing the same moral indignation that they did after the death of george floyd. and of course they're not there. they're not interested in justice. justice of any kind. they're not interested in getting to the basis of absolutely anything. they're interested. they're not interested. they're not interested in protecting anyone other than themselves and their own interests. that's been proven time and time again. and i hate to say this, but i believe blm has turned out to be a scam . i believe. it's and a scam. i believe. and it's and it's really, by and large,
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mansions . yeah, exactly. and but mansions. yeah, exactly. and but the reason i say i hate to say this because we all know good meaning meaning people who meaning well meaning people who who thought this was a who really thought this was a power for good and they just went along for the ride and they just got completely and utterly scammed, hoodwinked. >> that was always naive. i never a black square. never posted a black square. i could always what black could always see what black lives what lives matter were and what we and course, they're not going and of course, they're not going to israel or about to support israel or care about antisemit mean, they antisemit ism. i mean, they patricia, what's her name? patrisse cullors 2015. she's a founder of black lives matter . founder of black lives matter. she said that we need to end the imperialist project called israel . so they're the most israel. so they're the most vehemently anti—israel people you get. we saw they posted you can get. we saw they posted the certain them the certain chapters of them posted parerga leider posted the parerga leider picture immediately picture on twitter. immediately after the disgusting hamas attacks . so they're appalling attacks. so they're appalling people. the one people. and by the way, one further point to get myself in trouble says the trouble when dowden says the clarity after the george clarity after after the george floyd death, that's the point. the right no one should really can see because it's come out now in a in a case that the autopsy shows there was not pressure his neck. he didn't
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autopsy shows there was not prewfrom his neck. he didn't autopsy shows there was not prewfrom that.s neck. he didn't autopsy shows there was not prewfrom that. candace e didn't autopsy shows there was not prewfrom that. candace owenst autopsy shows there was not prewfrom that. candace owens has die from that. candace owens has showed film. so showed in her film. so he probably wasn't even murdered anyway. so, anyway. well, politics makes strange bedfellows. >> that's that's saying . and blm >> that's that's saying. and blm is part of team world and team world supports the palestinian arab muslim side because they are against ethno states and imperialism and imperialism. they're, you know , they're they're, you know, they're against it. they're against america and they're against britain. >> okay . well, that's pretty >> okay. well, that's pretty conclusive. let's have a look at the next story , which is and let the next story, which is and let me just get it in a second, because i haven't gone down all the guardian and 250,000 women have left their jobs to return to motherhood. some to motherhood. finally, some good news or is it? good for news or is it? >> yes , yes, yes. and double. >> yes, yes, yes. and double. yes so motherhood penalty has dnven yes so motherhood penalty has driven a quarter of a million women out of jobs. so so there are mothers with young children that have left jobs because of difficulties with balancing work and childcare. according to a report by an equal rights charity. and here's the thing now nature and capitalism don't
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mix particularly well. i think the solution to this isn't to put pressures on employers and businesses to say to pay more or to do things differently. i think we need to look at this from a completely different perspective and make it acceptable once again that women or whoever the main carer at home is , it can be at home and home is, it can be at home and isn't forced to work because now we've got a society where everybody needs to work just to survive. you know , for thousands survive. you know, for thousands and thousands and thousands of generations. we had one parent that would work and one parent that would work and one parent that would work and one parent that would nurture. and there's a reason for that. it's a good reason for that. it's biology. the reason biology. and the reason that we're that right now we're not seeing that right now is we're seeing the is because we're seeing the eradication biology. we're eradication of biology. we're seeing the eradication of science . science. >> okay, louis? >> okay, louis? >> i mean, this is this story is actually good news. 250,000 women have chosen to stay home and look after their children and look after their children and not to buy into this whole work thing thing. work is horrible , man. we have to do it. horrible, man. we have to do it. we have to do it because no one
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would who would he would who would love paul if he did a job? look at this did not have a job? look at this 9113’- did not have a job? look at this guy. who want have sex guy. who would want to have sex with guy if he didn't with this guy if he didn't have a brought some a job and brought home some money, wouldn't. have to money, he wouldn't. we have to work. all right . work. all right. >> all right. well, i'm not going to top that. so let's do this other one in the guardian. and schools are refusing to teach the of israel and teach the history of israel and palestine they're palestine in case they're accused bias. you know what palestine in case they're accu:say? bias. you know what palestine in case they're accu:say? those you know what palestine in case they're accu:say? those that know what palestine in case they're accu:say? those that failn what they say? those that fail to learn history getting learn from history avoid getting cancelled. louis i think that's. >> let think about that. >> let me think about that. i don't even need to say what that means, schools . schools means, but it's schools. schools in england, according to the guardian , blocked lessons guardian, blocked lessons on middle fears of bias middle east over fears of bias claims. says there's only claims. and it says there's only 2% of the older kids are learning about the middle east. and i understand why because and i can understand why because they afraid of , you know, they are afraid of, you know, people anti—semitic people making anti—semitic comments because there are very few jews. people don't understand few jews there understand how few jews there are the world. they just a are in the world. they just a tiny there's, you know , tiny number. there's, you know, a tiny there's 15 million all over the world anyway. >> some have massive personalities and some not saying and some make a lot of
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noise, which makes which make people hate it anyway. >> because they don't know >> so because they don't know what because what to teach, because this country into country is divided into basically countries, you basically two countries, you know, one country is pro palestine and the other country is pro pro britain. but what we need, of course, is more education. >> i mean, they're saying a few things. they're saying that they'll lead conflict in the they'll lead to conflict in the classes. saying that they'll lead to conflict in the classome saying that they'll lead to conflict in the classome peoplesaying that they'll lead to conflict in the classome people think that they'll lead to conflict in the classome people think muslims it's some people think muslims will make anti—semitic comments in is she in their classes, which is she called calls unfair, called a teacher calls unfair, dangerous and insulting, may well well , if well actually happen as well, if we're honest. but paul, we're honest. but but, paul, this answer because this can't be the answer because people need i we're this people need i know we're in this culture cancel culture culture of cancel culture and woke kids need woke intimidation. but kids need to learn about this because we're with this very we're coming out with this very sort simplistic narrative. sort of simplistic narrative. yeah, at some point yeah, you at some point collective societies got to make a choice between over progressivism , i.e. wokeism and progressivism, i.e. wokeism and the truth because within inherent within the truth are the facts of the past . the facts of the past. >> and of course, every generation seems to make the same mistakes . but we can learn same mistakes. but we can learn from these lessons . there are
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from these lessons. there are lessons to be learned on both sides . why are we protecting sides. why are we protecting children ? learn from this children? learn from this because ultimately , at the end because ultimately, at the end of the day, we're not protecting children here. actually, what we're protecting here is teachers. and i blame the teachers. and i don't blame the teachers. and i don't blame the teachers . it's not like teachers. and i don't blame the tea(teachers . it's not like teachers. and i don't blame the tea(teachers are it's not like teachers. and i don't blame the tea(teachers are deliberately the teachers are deliberately trying although trying to avoid this, although they reason they they are. but the reason they are is because they know that society, progressive society, an ultra progressive society, an ultra progressive society, will frown upon them unless they come down on one side because cause sorry, because this because this country hasn't planted its flag in the ground . in the ground. >> and so there's no there's no fixed position. so how can, how can you teach something if you don't even know what you believe? >> that's a good point. actually, in one minute. let's just do one. telegraph actually, in one minute. let's just a 3 one. telegraph actually, in one minute. let's just a crowd jne. telegraph actually, in one minute. let's just a crowd jne people elegraph actually, in one minute. let's just a crowd jne people tookiph and a crowd of people took selfies in of drowning selfies in front of a drowning man. of helping with selfies in front of a drowning man level of helping with selfies in front of a drowning man level narcissism, with selfies in front of a drowning man level narcissism, it with that level of narcissism, it sounds they're ready to sounds like they're ready to enter showbiz. >> yeah well, take >> louis yeah, well, take pictures of i mean, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i mean, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i i mean, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i alli mean, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i all imean, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i all i want, that's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i all i want ishat's >> louis yeah, well, take pic'iwres of i all i want is fors all i want. i all i want is for someone to pay attention. i believe, to risk people hating me this on this me on this on this fakakta program . program. >> you know, should we say what the is?
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the story is? >> the story is? crowds >> what the story is? crowds watch nearly drown with watch man nearly drown with quote no one coming to quote unquote. no one coming to help. there in help. and this is up there in york, a beautiful city. york, which is a beautiful city. and the river oos. york, which is a beautiful city. and the river cos. i think i can't pronouncing correctly. and the river cos. i think i can't riveruncing correctly. and the river cos. i think i can't river oos1g correctly. and the river cos. i think i can't river oos .] correctly. and the river cos. i think i can't river oos . and orrectly. and the river cos. i think i can't river oos . and the ctly. and the river cos. i think i can't river oos . and the guy yeah. river oos. and the guy jumped in and there were two life rings and nobody threw a life rings and nobody threw a life ring. and they were just like, watch the guy. probably, possibly because cold possibly drown because it's cold water . water up there. >> luckily didn't. but >> yeah, luckily he didn't. but completely . paul, in completely insane. paul, in 15 seconds, think? this seconds, what do you think? this is social media? is all to do with social media? >> you can't get the >> i mean, you can't get the likes if you're the if you if you help become part of the you help and become part of the drowning situation, you can only get it get the likes of you. video it and stand back. >> what i think it >> do you know what i think it is? it's death that is? it's the death of love that is? it's the death of love that is it part three. but coming is it for part three. but coming up final section, elon up in the final section, elon musk's rebellious. i buff billionaires and jordan peterson. see you
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streak. i can't see that going wrong in any way . paul well, wrong in any way. paul well, rebellious . rebellious. >> i mean, finally, we do have an ai story that's of some interest , always interest to me, interest, always interest to me, should i say. i'm not saying that all ai stories are uninteresting. know they are. uninteresting. i know they are. >> separate. uninteresting. i know they are. >> smuskze. uninteresting. i know they are. >> smusk unveils grok an ai >> elon musk unveils grok an ai chat bot with a rebellious streak. so grok and i was unaware of. this is a verb coined by american science fiction writer robert a heinlein an according to the collins dictionary, it means understand thoroughly and intuitively . so thoroughly and intuitively. so elon musk has unveiled grok an artificial intelligence chat bot, and it one thing it has different to the other chat bots is access to x, so it can instantly access all the information that's available on x. all the tweets and all that, all that good stuff. it's designed to answer questions with a bit of bit of wit and a rebellious streak . so it says rebellious streak. so it says here, warning please don't use if you hate humour. so i mean i think that may be right at the moment about 75% of the global population . population. >> and it is quite funny you
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know, it says how do we make cocaine? it says obtain a chemist degree, set up a clandestine laboratory a clandestine laboratory in a remote location, and then it says, it's says, i'm only joking. it's basically like elon musk's brain exported going take exported and he's going to take over the world he's over the world and what he's done. which quite done. louis which is quite funny, ai is one of funny, is he said ai is one of the biggest humanity. the biggest threats to humanity. he my take. he he then this is my take. he realised else was going realised everyone else was going to it to just carry on making it anyways. well, anyways. he's like, well, i may as well funny one then as well make a funny one then that me. that that's like me. >> because people are >> yeah, because people are interested guy interested in that guy at the end day, he's going to be end of the day, he's going to be the most famous person in the world. trump croaks. the most famous person in the worli. trump croaks. the most famous person in the worli. a trump croaks. the most famous person in the worli. a of trump croaks. the most famous person in the worli. a of people croaks. and i mean a lot of people because useful . but my because ai is useful. but my calendar not based on the calendar is not based on the calendar. >> how did that get in there? >> how did that get in there? >> and this is the thing, because it looks like it looks like this is like this is not me. this is created by ai. but no, this is how you're wearing the same outfit as steve jobs, ironically. >> there is this how >> so there is a this is how great look. >> so there is a this is how gre and.ook. >> so there is a this is how gre and so (. >> so there is a this is how gre and so if need a calendar >> and so if you need a calendar to do what's what's >> and so if you need a calendar to what's do what's what's >> and so if you need a calendar to what's the what's what's >> and so if you need a calendar to what's the holiday what's >> and so if you need a calendar to what's the holiday that's the what's the holiday that we're not in a we're in, you're not in a holiday. the fire fireworks thing. yeah. guy fawkes. guy fawkes, you can my calendar. fawkes, you can get my calendar. okay. website . right. okay. go to my website. right. and calendar. and buy my calendar. >> let him get >> andrew wouldn't let him get away i'm
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away with this, but i'm too nice. basically, it's. nice. but basically, it's. i mean, maybe covered mean, we maybe we've covered this kind of this story, but it's a kind of it's than wokeist. elon it's better than wokeist. elon musk open he musk didn't like open source. he didn't wokeist. invented didn't like wokeist. he invented grok. be grok. it's going to be grok versus wokeist kind of godzilla battle for future . that's battle for the future. that's what i think. >> clever a >> he's a clever man, a scientist for the people. i scientist for the people. musk i always an excellent always say that is an excellent combination of wit, intelligence and lad, much like and but can l. and lad, much like and but can i, can i add one point? >> yes. you're totally spot on because he is he's got he's inherently, let's say not team world. he's conservative and he's he's doing that with with twitter and he's he's doing that with with his aa with grok. >> yeah . with team grok here >> yeah. with team grok here let's do the guardian with a story about the secret of eternal youth. is it eating meat, louis it is eating meat. >> and we don't need to discuss it anymore. but but no, the guardian does this whole big, big spiel. british biotech races us buff billionaires for secretive eternal youth. and that's just basically a clickbait title to put a picture
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of, of a of a steroided hyper worked out bezel jeff bezos with his with his girlfriend who's got who's had more plastic surgery than whatever. and even got whatever from you. >> the analogy. >> the analogy. >> yeah. so just just i don't >> yeah. so justjust i don't know if that's true. we don't know if that's true. we don't know if that's true. we don't know if that's true. but the truth is the truth is they're working on genetic stuff in america and here they're working on all sorts of different things. >> you want to give us some of the facts of the story just for lolz? >> the facts is there is no facts. saying that facts. they're saying that america puts a lot america the america puts a lot has put lot more has rich people put a lot more money into this stuff. >> they looked at cyclists and it's to do with the thymus gland. shrinks in gland. it normally shrinks in all not in cyclists. >> but that but that that's >> but that but that is that's after fact. forget what after the fact. i forget what that research is. they that kind of research is. they haven't scientific, they haven't they've done no random control trials . they just see they just trials. they just see they just see people who work out and they say, what do people work out say, what do people who work out . a say, what do people who work out , a bit , how do they look a bit different? it doesn't say whether to live whether they're going to live longer, wise is for
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longer, exercise wise is bad for you and for balance exercise is good for, you know, anything , good for, you know, anything, anything is going to let you speak on this on some. >> i just move on. let's move on. on. >> on. >> no, no, emma emmm em .-.. not >> no, no, no, no, no. i'm not cutting you. >> cut me off. >> no, you can't cut me off. it's okay so it says in it's just. okay so it says in here, this ruins a lot of my theories, because it theories, actually, because it says there's says in here, oh, there's nothing about that. nothing you can do about that. it's and it's just part of ageing. and you're putting you're talking about putting on weight. been weight. so i've just been relying that. like 44 relying on that. i'm like 44 this i'm thinking this month and i'm thinking because a lot of people have relied fact that as you relied on the fact that as you get older, you just you do put on that's saying get older, you just you do put on true. that's saying it's not true. >> exactly. exactly. which is good but let's >> exactly. exactly. which is gotthe but let's >> exactly. exactly. which is gotthe telegraph but let's >> exactly. exactly. which is gotthe telegraph then ut let's >> exactly. exactly. which is gotthe telegraph then with t's do the telegraph then with a story recent arc story about the recent arc conference. paul, which was some of the best people i know, went there. >> thank you. baroness stroud, who by the is tory who by the way, is a tory peer for says for those who are unaware, says jordan peterson, who i think is in room actually , and i in the room actually, and i believe jordan peterson. i believe jordan peterson. i believe . believe. >> is he is he in the room? >> is he is he in the room? >> he's just coming in and out. and i believe so. he's saying that jordan peterson and her believe we can be part of believe that we can be part of building something better. so
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this the tory pair and saying this is the tory pair and saying her party and i totally agree with this, her party is the conservative party done conservative party has done nothing to change left wing nothing to change the left wing narrative victimhood and narrative of victimhood and decline. and it hasn't , which is decline. and it hasn't, which is why we have left millions and millions of voters politically homeless. and i think this is fantastic stuff because it's about time the centre centre right took a grip of this situation. well, i went to arc and i interviewed dave rubin, which was good, and i saw doctor peterson being moved by his i'm so moved by speeches. so moved by my own speeches. >> incredible. and there >> it was incredible. and there was lots interesting people was lots of interesting people there. brett there. eric weinstein, brett weinstein, and weinstein, loads of people. and it good. it's alliance it is good. it's the alliance for citizenship . so for responsible citizenship. so i idea that we're for responsible citizenship. so i to idea that we're for responsible citizenship. so i to idea anrt we're for responsible citizenship. so i to idea an alliance trying to form an alliance against against the against team world, against the woke side, who are definitely good with each other. good at allying with each other. some criticism balance some criticism for balance where some too some people said it was too american. people there american. some people said there wasn't direction. wasn't a clear direction. a lot of the networking of people said the networking was speeches, was better than the speeches, which probably which is fine. it's probably the case so case of a lot of conferences. so it's do we do? it's it's like, what do we do? it's trying come another trying to come up with another coherent narrative counter coherent narrative to counter wokeness. what do you think? wokeness. but what do you think? >> you. it's a team
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>> i agree with you. it's a team uk, it's a team local ism. i mean, the things that they're fighting are and fighting for are faith and family classical inheritance family, classical inheritance that western values. that underpins western values. but this this baroness philip estrada . i don't know anything estrada. i don't know anything about her, but she says different ways of getting to net zero. so and that's like she like went off the path right there. yeah that's right. >> yes. let's net zero is so un un i know on environment they might be a bit off. anyway, the whole conference ended with some beautiful music and then a big close peterson close up of jordan peterson crying, perfect. let's close up of jordan peterson crythe perfect. let's close up of jordan peterson crythe telegraph. perfect. let's close up of jordan peterson crythe telegraph. aerfect. let's close up of jordan peterson crythe telegraph. a new:. let's close up of jordan peterson crythe telegraph. a new york's close up of jordan peterson crythe telegraph. a new york is do the telegraph. a new york is introducing can only introducing an app that can only be a kind of be described as a kind of gnnder be described as a kind of grinder rats. grinder for rats. >> york subway >> louis yeah, new york subway passengers can now check a station's rat levels on a tracking app. yeah, there's like , there's new york city subway system has got an app it's called to track whatever it's called to track whatever it's called it's called transit transit . if you're there and it transit. if you're there and it tells you it tells you where have rats been spotted in the new york city subway. and i lived in i lived in manhattan for like 20 years. i lived in
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new york my entire, you know, up until the time i moved here and my was ruined. i'm my life was ruined. but but i'm telling you , there are rats telling you, there are rats everywhere in new york. maybe there are rats in this city, but you don't see them like you do in pointing at me. and by the way, to the point where way, it's got to the point where new even has a rat tsar, new york even has a rat tsar, which i thought was rats. >> thought it was splinter. >> i thought it was splinter. remember ? the to me, he was remember him? the to me, he was the rat, sir. i mean, in ten, 15 seconds again, paul, the rat, sir. i mean, in ten, 15 seconds again, paul , i've. i've seconds again, paul, i've. i've done this to you before. 15 seconds. what do you think about the rats here? seconds. what do you think about the well, lere? seconds. what do you think about the well, lersays that >> well, it says here that the rats symptom of systemic rats are a symptom of systemic issues, sanitation ? issues, including sanitation? yes. health? yes. housing yes. economic justice. i don't think so. i saw that. i was like, where do you said that? >> i stopped listening because that's complete nonsense. all right. great but it's right. great show. but it's nearly over. so let's take another monday's another quick look at monday's front . so the daily mail front pages. so the daily mail has pressure on tories over serial rapist cover up. the telegraph met chief urged to ban armistice protest at the express brexit trade freedom boost for
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uk economy. the guardian has israeli strikes on gaza intensify as violence on lebanon border flares . the eye uk's border flares. the eye uk's national security council not for prepared heightened terror threat . the daily star for prepared heightened terror threat. the daily star finally here we blow again and those we the front pages. that is it for tonight's show. sadly thanks to paul and louis headliners is back tomorrow at 11 pm. and if you're watching at 5 am, then stay tuned for breakfast. but for it's night. good for now, it's good night. good morning.
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world, even in our country , the world, even in our country, the memory of that horror is fading into view. >> was in israel with our security editor mark white and more details on the uk's national's trapped in gaza. we'll be reporting on that . well we'll be reporting on that. well bons we'll be reporting on that. well boris johnson is saying that israel must be given more time to continue going after hamas. >> this as every un agency has joined together to call for an immediate ceasefire . immediate ceasefire. >> in other news, legislation is to be set out in the king's speech that will see the government press ahead with new production of oil and gas. so what now for rishi sunak's green policies? olivia has the latest from westminster rishi sunak's decision to grant new oil and gas licences >> put some clear blue water between labour and the tories on green issues . but will it be green issues. but will it be enough to win back the prime minister? any votes ?
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