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i'm obscene. do you know what i'm starting to miss? that guy is britain under siege from extremists ? i'm pulling no extremists? i'm pulling no punches in my big opinion. next, before my panel weigh in tonight , carole malone. stella lee kuan yew and belinda de lucy and scotland's first minister, humza yousaf has sparked outrage by saying the protests should go ahead this weekend. i'll get reaction from our very own nigel farage, who let me tell you, is not a happy man. farage, who let me tell you, is not a happy man . plus, following not a happy man. plus, following their gaffe laden israel coverage, has the bbc lost the trust of the british people ? bbc trust of the british people? bbc boss aqeel ahmed and former southampton f.c. owner rupert lowe go head to head in the clash. meanwhile he's happy to take a private to jet see pop star katy perry . but prince star katy perry. but prince harry has decided to skip his father's 75th birthday. so is this the ultimate insult to the king well connected commentators kyra kennedy and ingrid seward
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will be here with their searing royal analysis as always, we'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages and media mogul kelvin mackenzie calls on the bbc to take action against their renegade star. gary lineker. should he lose the match of the day gig. what do you think, mark? at gbnews.com. a cracking show coming up for you. this is gb news. tonight. at that big opinion is on the way. you won't want to miss it. i'm not pulling my punches. two minutes time. is britain in the grip of religious extremism? first in the newsroom . it is first in the newsroom. it is polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the newsroom tonight is that the home secretary says
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hate marchers need to understand that decent british people have had enough of thuggish intimidation and extremism displays. that comes after the metropolitan police in london asked protest organisers to urgently reconsider their plans for demonstrations in london dunng for demonstrations in london during remembrance commemorations this weekend. senior officers say they're concerned by the danger posed by breakaway groups who are intent, they say, on fuelling disorder. the met held talks with protest organisers today, but requests to postpone the march were declined . meanwhile, united declined. meanwhile, united nafions declined. meanwhile, united nations chief antonio guterres says gaza is becoming a graveyard for children . he said graveyard for children. he said the protection of civilians must be paramount in the conflict between israel and hamas. he says israel's ground operations are hitting civilians as hospitals and un facilities , hospitals and un facilities, including shelters at the same time, he says, hamas is using
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civilians as human shields and continues launching rockets at israel . here at home, laws israel. here at home, laws designed to provide a minimum level of cover during a strike, action have been extended now to ambulance staff, rail workers and border force employees, train staff will be asked to operate 40% of their normal timetable , all while border timetable, all while border security will have to keep all airports open during strikes. the minimum service level act passed earlier this year, but has faced criticism from trade unions who say it threatens their right to strike in the united states . donald trump has united states. donald trump has been facing a civil fraud trial that threatens his property empire. the former us president is accused of inflating the value of his properties by over £1.65 billion to secure more favourable loan terms . losing favourable loan terms. losing the case could mean significant financial consequences for his property interests and it comes
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as mr trump currently leads in 2024 polls leading in five swing states in america . here, thames states in america. here, thames water admits 12,000 customers in surrey are still having difficulty with domestic water supplies, a week after blaming storm ciaran for affecting water treatment works. customers say they've been unable to bathe, shower or even flush the loo as well as having to wait a long time in a queue for bottled water at nominated pick up points, schools and nurseries in the area have had to close, with students returning to lockdown style online lessons . well, style online lessons. well, yesterday, thames water declared a major incident and apologised to customers for the problems, adding that engineers were working to fix a technical fault . luton town has threatened to ban any fans found to have been taking part in chanting about the hillsborough disaster during sunday's 1—1 the hillsborough disaster during sunday's1—1 draw the hillsborough disaster during sunday's 1—1 draw with liverpool
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. the club has launched an internal investigation after chants , which indirectly chants, which indirectly referenced the hillsborough disaster, were heard during the match. luton town apologised to anyone offended by the chants , anyone offended by the chants, adding they were extremely disappointed and the club is reviewing cctv , tv and media reviewing cctv, tv and media footage from the match to identify any individuals concerned on tv online dab+ radio and the tunein app. this is gb news, britain's news channel . channel. >> two minutes is all they're asking for . your two minutes of asking for. your two minutes of silence to remember the loss of a million british soldiers in two world wars. this weekend, the nation will gather to pay their respects to those brave souls, often very young men who left our shores and perished in an ultimately victorious battle
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against fascism. this this coming weekend's acknowledgement of these heroes could be subjected to potential disruption . and even the disruption. and even the drowning out of that two minute silence with chants of hate tells you how much trouble this country is in. now, boris johnson and i have had our differences , but he's bang on differences, but he's bang on here. speaker exclusively to gb news he should remember that remembrance sunday is their very largely to commemorate the many many people in our country but also across the commonwealth who fought against and fascism . and fought against and fascism. and i think for them to go out and demonstrate in favour of an anti—semitic pogrom , which is anti—semitic pogrom, which is what they would be doing , is what they would be doing, is obscene . this weekend , just past obscene. this weekend, just past patriotic brits waving the union
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flag were told to move on by police in the face of intimidation and threats of violence. and an elderly poppy poppy violence. and an elderly poppy poppy seller violence. and an elde rl o poppy seller at y p ppy violence. and an elderly poppy poppy seller at waverley station in edinburgh was forced to pack up and go home after being crowded out by aggressive protesters in scotland's capital. meanwhile, cops stand idly by as protesters yell anti—semitic slurs and call for anti—semitic slurs and call for an intifada, which means suicide bombs on buses or in trains and in restaurants . as we prepare to in restaurants. as we prepare to remember our war dead, without whom we would not be here, the things for which they fought freedom, tolerance , the rule of freedom, tolerance, the rule of law, decency, democracy are being trashed by a vocal and extreme minority every weekend in our great cities . where are in our great cities. where are the authorities to show their authority ? where are the police authority? where are the police to police our values and our history ? we have 300,000 jewish history? we have 300,000 jewish people who live in this country who, according to the israeli
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ambassador solder, feel safer in war torn israel than in supposedly safe great britain . supposedly safe great britain. there's an extreme minority of hate and intolerance in this country which has been allowed to fester for decades and to which we are now all waking up this beautiful country of ours . this beautiful country of ours. the united kingdom, risks becoming a hotbed of unrest for the foreseeable future . as we the foreseeable future. as we remember the war dead, this weekend, we thought we had defeated an evil ideology abroad. only now to find a new one on our doorstep , aided abroad. only now to find a new one on our doorstep, aided and abetted by a number of politicians and a few high profile celebrities on the left side , killing not just their side, killing notjust their virtue, but their wild ignorance of middle eastern politics and history and showing their profound lack of empathy as israelis mourn the brutal murder, torture and rape of their loved ones . british jews , their loved ones. british jews, including my highly talented mate, the times columnist giles
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coren, writing in the paper on friday and now reflecting on where it is they could live to be safe. keep up the receipts for all of these lovely, caring, sharing. be kind progressives whose actions risk letting those hamas monsters off the hook . if hamas monsters off the hook. if you joined a celebratory march just hours or days after that evil massacre on the 7th of october, as far as i'm concerned , you are emboldening them . hate , you are emboldening them. hate is now trendy . it's now is now trendy. it's now virtuous. folks what a time to be alive . how do you virtuous. folks what a time to be alive. how do you think virtuous. folks what a time to be alive . how do you think the be alive. how do you think the woke progressives would get on living under sharia law with gay people being chucked off buildings? good luck with that . buildings? good luck with that. throughout our history, diversity has always been a great british talent, but only when integrated into what this country stands for. the misguided multicultural dream of parallel communities without shared values is turning into a
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nightmare. britain and our cherished way of life is under threat. and it's a problem of our own making . your reaction, our own making. your reaction, mark, at gbnews.com. let's get the reaction now of my top panel , daily express columnist carole malone, former labour aide stella kidu and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. look great to have all three of you with me. carol, your reaction to what you've seen every weekend since the massacre of october the seventh? >> you know, it shocked me to my core and i've just seen the police standing, you know, idly by while while the law was broken in front of them. now in polly's news—bulletin there, she just said that the cops this is obviously sir mark rowley there saying to reconsider their marches at the weekend . don't marches at the weekend. don't ask them to reconsider , kidder. ask them to reconsider, kidder. tell them that the marches are banned because, you know, it's you know, there was a headline
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today that said that, you know, the cops are under pressure to call off the mark on the march on saturday. why are they under pressure to do the safest and the right thing? you know, this weekend is not about the israeli war dead or the palestinian war dead. war dead or the palestinian war dead . it's about our war dead. dead. it's about our war dead. and we need to give them dignity and respect, that cannot be and respect, and that cannot be destroyed , opted in way. destroyed, opted in any way. now, i mark rowley is now, i think mark rowley is probably terrified that his officers aren't able to handle what if they tried what would happen if they tried to stop this march, if people came. i think he thinks the optics would be bad , where you optics would be bad, where you have cops wading into a supposed peace march. well, we know they're not marchers. the they're not peace marchers. the marches inciting hatred marches that are inciting hatred and so he has to stop and terror. so he has to stop them and he has to make a decision to stop them in a couple of days to get ready for what might happen on saturday, because this weekend belongs to our war dead. >> what do you think about this, stella? is britain now in the grip extremism ? grip of religious extremism? >> no, i think that britain is an incredibly open minded
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society as an immigrant. the reason why i wanted to live in the uk and the reason why i love the uk and the reason why i love the uk and the reason why i love the uk so much is because people are so open minded and so tolerant . and as a matter of tolerant. and as a matter of fact, one of my favourite british values is freedom of expression and freedom of expression. does not just apply to people whose opinions we agree with. it applies to everyone and the reason the police , the role of the police police, the role of the police is to tell us what is lawful, not what is appropriate, not what is tasteful, what is lawful. >> but they're not they're not imposed the law. so that is the point. they are they are watching people inside hatred and terrorism shouting jihad. i'm sorry, but they are . and i'm sorry, but they are. and they are shouting for the eradication of israel. that's inciting terror. and the cops are standing idly by while that is happening. >> i think you're under estimating british police forces because what in fact, what in
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fact, british police forces do noficeis fact, british police forces do notice is these protests at every protest is they will join a march. they will gather evidence . they will not have evidence. they will not have violent altercations , actions violent altercations, actions with with people . they will with with people. they will gather evidence and then they don't need to gather evidence. >> we've heard the chants. they've called for an intifada. that means suicide bombs on buses. that means suicide bombs on bus but that we know on that >> but also that we know on that tube train other week when tube train the other week when all people were chanting all those people were chanting on tube, are still on that tube, police are still investigating the tube driver. well, we've heard what they're to investigate. we heard him. he did are they did it. why are they investigating fire him. >> police present at that >> was police present at that time they not intervene time and did they not intervene at all? >> they have to do is watch the video. >> yes. and have they not intervened, belinda, this was a week a half ago. week and a half ago. >> nothing's happened. >> nothing's happened. >> stellar raises interesting >> stellar raises an interesting question, between question, that tension between freedom expression the freedom of expression and the protection certain protection of certain communities laws. communities and also hate laws. what think about that? what do you think about that? well, the biggest mistake liberal have liberal leaders in europe have made the made is tolerating the intolerant tolerate evil, tolerating hatred. >> that is not what our
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ancestors, my grandparents , ancestors, my grandparents, fought for at all. there is freedom of expression. there is not freedom to incite, hate, to make our british jewish community fearful of going out on all these. no go days that they've inflicted on british cities in our stations which carry on, by the way , for the carry on, by the way, for the foreseeable foreseeable future. and i would say radical islamism has caused so much human suffering around the world in all parts of the world, people are being oppressed and killed and hurt through radical islamism . and the biggest group islamism. and the biggest group of victims are muslims. so anyone marching alongside the sympathisers , if these marches sympathisers, if these marches are so peaceful and so legal and so compliant, why are the jewish community of this country thinking of somewhere else to live? >> firstly, mark, i do not disagree that people who are extremist in this protest should be charged if they are inciting violence , they should be violence, they should be charged. too i have no tolerance for people who incite violence. i do believe the jewish
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community should be protected . community should be protected. it is a minority in this country . they should protected . i do . they should be protected. i do believe there should be charges against these people. the police should intervene. they should police vigilant. police should be vigilant. however we've of half however we've heard of half a million people marching through london. are you telling me that half a million people in the uk are islamic fundamentalists? how no one's no one's saying that it is a minority, but they're being they're being tolerated. >> and there is a soft touch approach to them in this country. i one of the sheer numbers of those people through london is making this city, the capital city, a no go area for jews everywhere . jews everywhere. >> the reason why is the sheer numbers, the sheer numbers and the reason why the protests are continuing weekend after weekend is children are still is because children are still being bombed in their beds in gaza. >> so tell me this. >> so tell me this. >> why why aren't they protesting when tens of thousands were being slaughtered in yemen syria? did know in yemen or syria? did know there was no. i will tell you why they didn't shut down whitehall. they didn't shut down
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day after day . and day after day after day. and secondly, i'd say to a message to our met police, get off your knees. have had enough of knees. people have had enough of this double standard and the soft touch approach briefly that the difference is that the uk is arming israel. >> israel is the uk's ally and instead of advising israel to have a ceasefire, hold fire, take a hold fire on that, you don't want hamas dealt with because a ceasefire. i want hamas dealt with. however, how are you going to do that? however why do you think this is to going do you think this is ceasefire >> do you think so? you can't talk all the time. the ceasefire would embolden hamas. it wouldn't. you know, it as soon as as soon as the fighting has . as as soon as the fighting has. >> the iraq war taught us about bombing terrorists , do you think bombing terrorists, do you think that if you kill all of the hamas leadership right now without stopping those who are arming them, if you want to stop hamas, we're talking about remembrance. >> we're talking escalating. let's let me finish a point. we've got to escalate one at a time. >> we're not talking about the
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palestinian struggle. we're talking our remembrance talking about our remembrance day sacrifice day celebration, sacrifice of the the commonwealth day celebration, sacrifice of the so the commonwealth day celebration, sacrifice of the so many the commonwealth day celebration, sacrifice of the so many countriesnmonwealth day celebration, sacrifice of the so many countries aroundzalth day celebration, sacrifice of the so many countries around the| world. >> how you can call a >> how you can call for a ceasefire when there are 200 hostages, children and ceasefire when there are 200 hnholocaust children and ceasefire when there are 200 hnholocaust survivor:hildren and ceasefire when there are 200 hnholocaust survivor is ldren and ceasefire when there are 200 hnholocaust survivor is beyond|d a holocaust survivor is beyond including citizens. a holocaust survivor is beyond inc|you|g citizens. a holocaust survivor is beyond inc|you know citizens. a holocaust survivor is beyond inc|you know what'szens. a holocaust survivor is beyond inc|you know what's not. a holocaust survivor is beyond inc|you know what's not going to >> you know what's not going to help hostages bombing them? >> listen, folks, all >> well, listen, folks, it's all about is delighted to about opinions. is delighted to have with us and of have stellar with us and of course, belinda and carol, a spicy debate. more where spicy debate. lots more where that mark that came from. mark at cbnnews.com. do you think? cbnnews.com. what do you think? let know. thoughts let me know. your thoughts coming this hour. just coming up later this hour. just stop. been messing stop. oil have been messing around cenotaph. mean around with the cenotaph. mean while scotland's first minister humza sparked outrage humza yousuf has sparked outrage by palestine protests in by saying palestine protests in london should go ahead this weekend on armistice day, no less. i'll get reaction from our very own nigel farage, who let me tell you, is not happy. plus, what's the latest on nigel and the jungle? i'll prize an answer out of him. but first, in the clash following their gaffe laden israel coverage and its ongoing refusal to call hamas terrorists, has the bbc become a national embarrassment? former head of religion at the bbc,
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akhil ahmed, takes on reform party spokesman, former owner of southampton, f.c, rupert lowe it's going to be
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gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> lots of emails coming in. i'll get to them very shortly . i'll get to them very shortly. see you are watching gb news tonight. and nigel farage on the way . is he headed to the jungle? way. is he headed to the jungle? what's the latest on his friend donald trump and does he agree with the scottish first minister
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that protest should happen that the protest should happen this weekend ? the pro—palestine this weekend? the pro—palestine protests at armistice day. but first, the clash . and the bbc's first, the clash. and the bbc's handung first, the clash. and the bbc's handling of the gaza conflict continues to spark fury from critics , not least by critics, not least by continually describing the death cult hamas as, quote , a cult hamas as, quote, a proscribed terror organisation by the uk government and others. what a mouthful . what a mouthful. >> let's start with the islamist militant group that carried out this attack . who are hamas ? this attack. who are hamas? >> but more than 1000 people have now been killed in israel and gaza after a massive attack by hamas militants that began at dawn . gaza is governed by hamas, dawn. gaza is governed by hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by many governments, including the uk . governments, including the uk. >> hamas wears a lot of hats, doesn't it? it is a militant group, but it's also a political party and an islamist movement. >> that wordy description across all the bbc's radio and tv bulletins is the corporation's new party line. after initially calling hamas militants, they
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later dropped the offensive term after outrage from viewers. it followed other bbc gaffes, including fake news reports that israel bombed a gaza hospital, killing 500 people, later shrugged off as a mistake by a top bbc news exec who, let's be honest, is still to going be in a six figure salary job. friend of the show, laura dodsworth, was left riled again this weekend by the bbc's continued old hamas tiptoeing tweet thing. the bbc's mealy mouthed descriptions are a national embarrassment and a danger. just call hamas terrorists . of call hamas terrorists. of course, she's absolutely right. but what do you think? has the bbc lost the trust of the british people over its israel reporting? let me know your thoughts, mark, at gbnews.com or at gb news on twitter and do vote in the poll. but to debate this now, i'm delighted to welcome reform party spokesman and former owner of southampton f.c, rupert lowe at and the ex head of religious and ethical programming at the bbc. aaqil
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ahmed aaqil very good to have you on the show. nice to meet you on the show. nice to meet you for the first time. do you think the bbc has lost the confidence of the british public? >> no, they haven't. obviously it's very i've got to be very honest, mark. i'm speaking here in a personal capacity. i don't represent anybody. >> obviously, this instance. >> obviously, at this instance. >> obviously, at this instance. >> look, the fact of the matter is, you want to make this is, i know you want to make this about the bbc, but obviously other broadcasters are also using term. they're other broadcasters are also usirreferring term. they're other broadcasters are also usirreferring them n. they're not referring to them as terrorists. there will be people on calling on the programs calling them terrorists. bbc terrorists. but the bbc reporters will be using the word proscribed terror organisation , proscribed terror organisation, etcetera, which is what other organised stations are also doing as well. it's not something they are terrorists in my opinion . right. something they are terrorists in my opinion. right. i'm not saying i'm not a fan of hamas. i actually made the film with hamas when the government 2006. so i've seen i know what hamas are like. don't don't want to be kind of like portrayed here as some kind of apologist, but there is a way that people behave in terms of journalism, and particularly you've got and particularly when you've got people that you
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people on the ground that you yourself don't say something, but other people do . and i think but other people do. and i think that's what they're doing as are other broadcasters as well . other broadcasters as well. >> okay. rupert, do you accept that defence the bbc? that defence of the bbc? >> you're completely not. >> you're completely not. >> mark i think the bbc is very much losing the british public. mark i've had i've written many articles about the bbc. time to act, auntie . she was supposed to act, auntie. she was supposed to be in informing, educating and entertaining with complete impartiality. that was her charter for a very different era. mr reith basically a very upstart sounding man. i think that that time there was a role for the bbc, but i think now it's become more line partisan . it's become more line partisan. it's very, very, very not impartial. so if it's a shocking organisation and it's dripping poison and division into the blood of britain every day . so blood of britain every day. so this this recent hamas issue, i'm afraid i do call them a terrorist organisation because that's what hamas are. it's
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shameful that the bbc doesn't call them that for anybody who can go and inflict a pogrom genocide or whatever you want to call it on 4500 innocent people to cut their heads off to murder them, to then poke their to eyes, take hostages quite frankly, mark, i think israel, which is a civilised country, we should we should be protecting the jewish people. they're part of our world. and until hamas releases the hostages, i think israel as a civilised country, which has basically seen gaza increasing its population, increasing its population, increasing its population, increasing its wealth , you've increasing its wealth, you've got hamas hiding between in behind the palestinian people. i think they've got every right to protect themselves in whatever way is necessary. and if you know, if the bbc keeps poisoning our public, the public can see it. you know, you they accused them immediately of blowing up a
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hospital, which has now proved to be actually one of the hamas rockets. so i you know, jeremy bowen is using this person who is a well known i think he's called salah al—din zahawi, who's a well known hamas propagandist , you know, quite propagandist, you know, quite apart from the bbc's history of employing a string of extremely bad people from jimmy saville to rolf harris to i've got a list of them here. martin bashir, mark page. i mean, they've got a history of basically getting it very badly wrong. and i think now it's time for the bbc to be defunded. i think it has to be a donein defunded. i think it has to be a done in a responsible way . it's done in a responsible way. it's a monopoly . britain has not a monopoly. britain has not enjoyed monopolies or liked them really since the civil war or and they in the end become malign. and the bbc has become malign. and the bbc has become malign. so i think it needs to be defunded in a responsible way. and those people who want to pay a fee to subscribe to the bbc should be able to do that. for me . mark, bbc should be able to do that. for me. mark, if that if that if
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that march goes ahead, that march goes ahead on sunday, on remembrance sunday, then i think the very patient, decent british people have every right to start stirring . and i think they have stirring. and i think they have a duty to do that if our police don't actually uphold the law, which they're not doing at the moment. >> akhil, you're shaking your head. >> no, just just there's that whole thing, you know , this is whole thing, you know, this is not this is not a story about the bbc. this is this is a story about what's going on in gaza right now and some of the things that and the bbc's reporting are kill . well, that's an every kill. well, that's an every other broadcast. well first of all first of all, the bbc very arrogantly stood by using the term militants for a couple of weeks before they changed tack . weeks before they changed tack. >> that demonstrates that they misjudged this one. plus, they erroneously said that a hospital in gaza had been blown up by israel without knowing the facts. this is supposed to be the most trusted news outlet in the most trusted news outlet in the world. many people might have died as a result of the propaganda off the back of that
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story . story. >> virtually everybody covered that same story. i know you want to make this about the bbc, but everyone dodi covered, but not everyone dodi covered, but not everyone pointed the finger at israel. >> kill in this country, vote all the major news organisations had the same similar story and actually at this moment in time there are so many different , there are so many different, different interpretations of that. >> i think. i think i think i know which one it is. i think it's very similar to the one that you're describing. this is probably remnants of a rocket that was going from from from hamas. but the fact of the matter there lots matter is there are lots of different interpretations. and actually, that's one of the things you have in things that you often have in the of war that you have to the fog of war that you have to be clear about how you be very clear about how you report. very difficult when report. it's very difficult when you on the ground. you got boots on the ground. actually and particularly right now living now when we're living in a particular period where once again, there's a again, there's been a communications blackout. so we do that of do need to have that kind of reporting, everybody's reporting, not everybody's going to all the time. to get it right all the time. and in fact, it's really important sometimes can important that sometimes you can actually step back a little
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actually just step back a little bit use like alleged. bit and use words like alleged. and also, don't exactly and also, we don't know exactly what happened in every what has happened in every single instance , some of them single instance, some of them that we do. in every single that we do. but in every single instance, we don't know. and having had to make those decisions myself, sometimes you don't is don't know what the truth is going to be. i've been in situations where people have been saying one thing, get been saying one thing, you get there on the ground the there on the ground and it's the complete you've complete opposite of what you've been complete opposite of what you've beeyou've you've briefly killed. >> you've you've briefly killed. you've i guess you would disagree premise that disagree with the premise that the bbc lost confidence the bbc has lost the confidence of public, but it of the british public, but it certainly lost the confidence of many jews . as what would many british jews. as what would you say to them? ah, kill. >> i agree with you. i think it's think lots of it's nuanced. i think lots of people confidence with people have lost confidence with the lost confidence the bbc and have lost confidence with broadcasting. if every single report into broadcasting around world. there are around the world. there are people who are losing confidence of why gb news exists of it. that's why gb news exists for people don't want it for the people who don't want it from the bbc or channel 4 news. i'm for that. i actually say i'm all for that. i actually say that think they're that i don't think they're losing of people over this. losing lots of people over this. there'll people there'll be the losing people all because that's what all the time because that's what happens. with to happens. and with regards to
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what about that, about what you said about that, about about my friends who jewish about my friends who are jewish as what i completely as well, what i completely understand might be understand why people might be upset the upset on either side. the problem lots people, problem is lots of people, whether you're whether you are pro—palestinian or you're outrageously hurt by what happened on october the 7th, i fully understand there are people find this really people who find this really passionate and very passionate and it's very difficult , passionate and it's very difficult, kind of like distance from the other side . and i fully from the other side. and i fully accept that if people are really upset a lot of my friends upset and a lot of my friends who who were really who are jewish who were really upset i know they've upset and i know that they've said that me as well, yeah, i said that to me as well, yeah, i can understand that. i really do understand to meet you for >> archeal great to meet you for the first time. fonnard to the first time. look fonnard to our on encounter. aaqil our next on air encounter. aaqil ahmed head of ahmed is the former head of religious and ethical programming at the bbc. he's a top knows top professor as well. he knows his onions. plus the brilliant rupert former southampton rupert lowe, former southampton fc reform fc ceo and owner and reform party thank you, party spokesman. thank you, chaps. your thoughts? mark gbnews.com. now the bbc has said we always our use of we always take our use of language very seriously. we anyone or listening anyone watching or listening to our coverage the word our coverage will hear the word terrorist used many we terrorist used many times. we attribute those are attribute it to those who are using example, the us,
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using it. for example, the us, uk government. this is an approach that has been used for decades and is line with that decades and is in line with that of broadcasters. so of other broadcasters. so following their gaffe laden israel coverage , has the israel coverage, has the beeb lost the the british lost the trust of the british people? says mark. they've people? ed says mark. they've been losing the public trust for a while now, but their coverage of hamas has been really awful. sheila says. never trusted the sheila says. i never trusted the bbc not after jimmy bbc anyway, not after jimmy savile harris. matt savile and rolf harris. matt says in the israel says both sides in the israel gaza are complaining about gaza war are complaining about the coverage, so they're the bbc's coverage, so they're definitely and definitely proving and definitively proving that balance is their remit . well, balance is their remit. well, your verdict is in. 92% agree that the beeb has lost the trust of the british people. 8% say they have not. and scotland's first minister, humza yousaf , first minister, humza yousaf, has sparked outrage by saying palestine protests in london should go ahead this weekend on armistice day, no less. i'll get reaction from our very own nigel farage, who let me tell you, is not happy. plus is nigel going into the jungle? i'll be prising an answer out of him before ten.
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but next up, as the silent majority to stand up gender ideology by signing the declaration for biologic reality, one of its backers, olympian, turned women's rights champion, sharron davies , joins champion, sharron davies, joins me live to explain why the tide is turning on the extreme trans lobby. a sporting legend is
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first minster. >> humour i should say. humza yousaf yes indeed. humza yousaf thinks that the marches should happen this weekend during armistice day and remembrance sunday. nigel's not happy , but sunday. nigel's not happy, but before that women's sport has suffered another shocking blow in massachusetts after a high school hockey player had two teeth knocked out when a ball was smashed at her by a male opponent. the injured player's captain, kelsey bain, said aftennards . my team—mates were aftennards. my team—mates were sobbing , not only in fear for sobbing, not only in fear for their team mate, but in fear that they had to go back out onto the field and continue a game male athlete who game against a male athlete who had hospitalised one of own. had hospitalised one of our own. this traumatic event sheds light on the rules and regulations of male athletes participating in women's . it back in the women's sports. it back in the uk alarming incidents like these have sparked the newly created declaration for biological reality. its supporters are refusing to bow down to the extreme trans lobby, instead expressing their very serious and growing concerns about the impact that gender identity ideology is having on our
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society . among the high profile society. among the high profile signatories is former olympic swimmer sharron davies , who swimmer sharron davies, who joins me now. sharron crazy that we need a letter declaring what a woman is and what a man is. why have you signed it? >> um . evening, mark. >> um. evening, mark. >> um. evening, mark. >> evening, everybody. i think. really? because i just genuinely believe that we're not doing anybody any favours at the moment by just not telling the truth . the truth is that human truth. the truth is that human beings cannot change their biological sex. you know, there is a difference. there is only two gametes. there is a male and a female. gamete takes one of each for us to reproduce. even people with the differences of sexual development are still male female. so to tell young male or female. so to tell young children that they're born in the wrong body and to line them up for the rest of their life to never be able to be what they're aspiring to be and to give them medication , which is probably medication, which is probably going to shorten their life and certainly basically create them , certainly basically create them, you know, make them a patient
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for the rest of their life is just unbelievable, cruel. and also, obviously from a sports perspective, where i've perspective, which is where i've always area of always come and it's my area of expertise is i just i cannot not after hearing that story today , after hearing that story today, you know, about those hockey players. i just cannot get my head around what we are doing to women's sport and things like hockey. we've got six contact sports in this country, combat sports in this country, combat sports . you know, these are sports. you know, these are these are fighting sports where it's self id . we've got 50 males it's self id. we've got 50 males that identify into women's football at the moment. and we know that women have six times as many knee injuries. they have as many knee injuries. they have a different angle. we have biologically made different and a different angle. we have biolwhole.y made different and a different angle. we have biolwhole reasons different and a different angle. we have biolwhole reason we iferent and a different angle. we have biolwhole reason we havet and a different angle. we have biolwhole reason we have women's the whole reason we have women's sport is to give the equality to females that males have had and enjoyed for decades , that women enjoyed for decades, that women have been constantly just playing catch up on. so i come very much from the point of wanting fair sport. and for that to be based on biology and for us to do that, we need to be able to talk reality respectfully. and you know, understand people's challenges
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and understand what gender dysphoria is. but we not be dysphoria is. but we must not be lying to people and think it's things like same sex attraction , things like same sex attraction, you know, now, you know, lesbians are bullied into relationships with women that have penises . well, women don't have penises. well, women don't have penises. well, women don't have penises. well, women don't have penises . they don't. and have penises. they don't. and women are not raped by women with penises. they're raped by men. and we're not putting the victims first, you know, and all of these things just make me so cross that we just can't talk honest language. and that language is disappearing. and the fact that we have things like the public sector, you know, it's not neutral anymore where, you know, we just been talking about the bbc, you know, we need to be able to have faith in our institutions that they're actually representing all of us. and doesn't feel that way at and it doesn't feel that way at the moment. >> no. briefly sharon, if you can. there are people, can. i mean, there are people, you know, trans people who feel that in the wrong body, that they're in the wrong body, that they're in the wrong body, that they're in the wrong body, that they have gender dysphoria . that they have gender dysphoria. they deeply offended by they could be deeply offended by this declaration that you've
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signed . and what would you say signed. and what would you say to you know, they want to to them? you know, they want to identify different gender. identify as a different gender. why ? why can't they? >> and they absolutely can. you know, that's the whole point of all of this. don't think that is what anyone is trying to say with the declaration. a declaration is out there now. it's been live the whole of it's been live for the whole of today. got over 10,000 today. it's got over 10,000 signatures already. this is about being able to tell about just being able to tell the so where we need to the truth. so where we need to get is the respect for get to is the respect for someone that's a transgender woman transgender but woman or a transgender man. but not to chant this mantra , phra, not to chant this mantra, phra, that a transgender woman is a woman because a woman is an adult human, female and we need to be able to protect language so that we can protect females, so that we can protect females, so that we can protect children, so that we can protect children, so that we can protect children, so that we can make sure that someone that's male can go and get a prostate check, know, get a prostate check, you know, and female can go get a prostate check, you know, and get female can go get a prostate check, you know, and get a female can go get a prostate check, you know, and get a cervical female can go get a prostate check, you know, and get a cervical checkile can go get a prostate check, you know, and get a cervical check becauseo and get a cervical check because that's the biology that we have. and to that because and we need to know that because othennise are going to othennise mistakes are going to happen going to happen and people are going to be in danger, you know, and that's ridiculous . that's ridiculous. >> most definitely. sharon, always thrill to have on
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always a thrill to have you on the show. catch up soon. the show. we'll catch up soon. former swimmer and former olympic swimmer and women's campaigner sharon women's rights campaigner sharon davies . women's rights campaigner sharon davies. coming up, as rishi sunak distances himself from his home secretary. again is suella braverman right that rough? sleeping in a tent is a lifestyle choice. my panel returned to debate that . and returned to debate that. and let's it'll a very let's be honest, it'll be a very lively debate. seen my lively debate. you've seen my panel they've got panel tonight. they've got strong opinions. also, tomorrow's newspaper, front pages, hot off the press . pages, hot off the press. scotland's first minister, humza yousaf , has sparked outrage by yousaf, has sparked outrage by saying palace line protests in london should go ahead this weekend on armistice day, no less . i'll get reaction from our less. i'll get reaction from our very own nigel farage. plus, i'll be asking him about the jungle and his mate, donald trump. lots to get through. nigel
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should gary lineker be stood down as the host of match of the day following his latest tweets about the hamas israel conflict?
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i'll be asking fleet street icon, the man that set up talksport radio kelvin mackenzie. but first up, gb news at superstar nigel farage and scotland's first minister has sparked outrage after saying plans for pro—pac minion marches in london on armistice day should definitely go ahead. despite the met police asking organisers to quote , urgently organisers to quote, urgently reconsider humza yousaf said i understand the march is taking place after the minute's silence that we will undoubtedly observe live. i hear it's not going anywhere near whitehall or indeed the cenotaph , he added. indeed the cenotaph, he added. i'm beyond angry at the home secretary and the uk government who seem to want to drive every issue into a culture war as well. nigel farage joins me now. and nigel, it sounds to me like the first minister is stirring things up a bit, not out of character . character. >> you no, it's not. but of course it shows an appalling level of disrespect. but for the sheer level of sacrifice that was made so that we could be a free country and scotland
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suffered disproportionately more than the rest of the uk . suffered disproportionately more than the rest of the uk. he appears to be entirely ignorant of that. he's putting the politics of the middle east above the interests of this country and what is supposed to be the most solemn occasion of our year and i also can't help thinking there's a religious element to this . somehow it's element to this. somehow it's his religion an it is banding together , either with those in together, either with those in the middle east of the same religion against the jews. that seems to be number one on his list of priorities. well, he's in for a hell of a shock because because scotland, just like the rest of the united kingdom, the vast , clear majority the vast, clear majority of the pubuc vast, clear majority of the public do not want this march to go ahead on armistice day. so he's put himself in the wrong place. and to claim that everybody else is turning this into a culture war, no , this is into a culture war, no, this is the united kingdom. scotland is a part of it. these are our traditions , our cultures. and traditions, our cultures. and this is at the very centrepiece
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of our national year. you know, for a country that is far less religious than it used to be, there is something about these services , these on or around services, these on or around remembrance sunday and armistice day, that really reach out, you know, way , way beyond people who know, way, way beyond people who will bow their heads for a moment, silence who wouldn't go to church for the rest of the yean to church for the rest of the year. this is important. he simply doesn't care. >> and now usaf would argue that this is about peace rather than religion or politics. but it's interesting, isn't it, nigel, because this coming weekend sees a tension between the right to protest and a respectful tribute to our war dead . how do you to our war dead. how do you square that circle ? square that circle? >> well, very easy, isn't it? i mean, the pro—palestinians have marched for the last three weekends in a row. i've no doubt they'll march the weekend after they'll march the weekend after the armistice , but it's not as the armistice, but it's not as if they're being stopped from protesting. they're protesting all the time . goodness me. they all the time. goodness me. they took over charing cross station the surrounding some the other night surrounding some elderly poppy sellers. they've got right to protest, but
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got every right to protest, but not on this occasion. and what is so dispiriting is to see this game of ping pong going on between the met police and the government and neither side showing the guts or leadership that the country is crying out for now. >> nigel, let's talk about your friend and confidant donald trump . his testimony in a new trump. his testimony in a new york court played out earlier today. the former president and his company have been accused of inflating their assets s to the tune of billions of dollars to get more favourable, favourable rates from banks and insurers. how significant is this latest trial ? do you how significant is this latest trial? do you think he can shrug off this legal challenge, of which there are many and still go on into the white house next year? >> well, this one is an absolute farce . this >> well, this one is an absolute farce. this is about >> well, this one is an absolute farce . this is about the value farce. this is about the value of his assets against which he borrowed money from banks . point borrowed money from banks. point number mar—a—lago was number one, mar—a—lago was valued at 18 million. i'll tell you what. i'll find you a buyer right now for 500,000,001 phone call. so mean. that clearly is a total and utter farce . and what
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total and utter farce. and what is worse still is that judge engoron will decide on his own on whether trump is guilty and he is assisted by a prosecutor who was elected to say she would get trump this isn't fair justice. so the significance of this is huge and it's playing out in the polls. some really extraordinary polling out yesterday showing that in five of the six key battles , ground of the six key battles, ground states, the swing states , trump states, the swing states, trump isn't just leading , states, the swing states, trump isn'tjust leading , he's states, the swing states, trump isn't just leading , he's way isn't just leading, he's way aheadin isn't just leading, he's way ahead in five of those six states. so i think fair minded americans are saying something has gone very badly wrong here. and i would add to that, if i may, americans are seeing the scenes on the streets of london. we're still the scenes on the streets of berlin. and they're saying to themselves, well, he might be a bit rough and ready. he might use language. we wouldn't choose to, but boy, was
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he right about this problem. >> well, indeed , nigel, briefly, >> well, indeed, nigel, briefly, if you can, he does have his legal challenges. if he's able to prevail over them and shrug them off. i mean , he will win them off. i mean, he will win them off. i mean, he will win the next election, won't he? but will it happen? do you think he will it happen? do you think he will be in a position to run for the white house or do you think that the authorities will manage to stifle his his attempts at a return ? return? >> i think if the american judicial system politicised as it is , did what they could to it is, did what they could to stop him from running, i would fear i would fear for the unity of .america. okay, now fear i would fear for the unity of .america.okay, now he's fear i would fear for the unity of .america. okay, now he's going to overcome this. he will be the 47th president of the usa . i 47th president of the usa. i believed it for a long time . believed it for a long time. >> you heard it here first. nigel while i was down at the australian embassy earlier today, i didn't i australian embassy earlier today, i didn'ti didn't australian embassy earlier today, i didn't i didn't see you in that queue for a visa, did i? >> no, i think you did. um, no, i'm. i'm certain you didn't. actually, i do have an existing
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australian visa, so if i chose to go there on holiday, i could without too much difficulty. but also i luckily we share an office. >> and i saw you trying out kangaroo testicles in the gb news kitchen. so have you got anything to tell us? >> yeah. cut down on the booze , >> yeah. cut down on the booze, mark, because you're clearly seeing things list . seeing things list. >> what's the latest? are you going to do it? is it yes or no? nigel what do you think? are you still reflecting? are you still ruminating offer? oh ruminating on this offer? oh i've about it hard. i've thought about it hard. >> thought about >> yes. mean i've thought about it hard for the last ten days or so. it's a big decision so. it's quite a big decision and it would be an unconventional for to unconventional thing for me to do. but i just. i don't know. there is a big young audience out there don't really have out there who don't really have anyone to them. it anyone that speaks to them. it seems to me in current affairs and politics in britain, that's what tempts me. but i haven't signed a contract yet . signed a contract yet. >> listen, nigel, if you do it, you will go and smash it and you will have my support and the support all of viewers support of all of our viewers and listeners. quick one and listeners. a quick one before you go. a rare good news
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story. nigel exports to europe through the roof . germany and through the roof. germany and the eurozone suffer a recession. uk does not. the city of london announces several new skyscrapers amid a flood of investment into the square mile . investment into the square mile. i thought brexit would was a disaster. i'm very confused . disaster. i'm very confused. >> yes, of course . that's what >> yes, of course. that's what we were told by everybody, including this office for budget response ability. now these are the people who were as bearish as anybody else about our prospects. and yet this is the organisation that rachel reeves says as chancellor of the exchequer should not be able to move unless the approves. and we can see they are part of the problem, not the solution. no, i mean, look, there isn't too much good news around at the moment, but the fact that uk exports to the eu and the rest of the world are up is at least something we can share. >> nigel, more power to you. look fonnard to seeing back look fonnard to seeing you back on tomorrow at seven. on the box tomorrow at seven. nigel there. now coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's there. now coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's happyiere. now coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's happy to 5. now coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's happy to takew coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's happy to take a coming on the box tomorrow at seven. nigwhe's happy to take a private up, he's happy to take a private jet to see pop star katy perry.
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but prince harry has decided to sensationally skip his own father's. birthday. so is father's. 75th birthday. so is this the ultimate insult to the king? expert commentators , kyra king? expert commentators, kyra kennedy and ingrid seward will be here with their searing royal analysis very shortly. but first is suella braverman right that rough sleeping in a tent is a lifestyle choice. the pm has distanced himself from his own home secretary again, but i'll find out what my top pundits think when they return next . think when they return next. >> hi there. and welcome to the latest forecast for gb news from the met office. showers for many of us continuing over the next 24 hours, the most frequent of these will be in the west. the clearest skies and the driest intervals will be towards the east. we've got low pressure sitting to the north of scotland at the moment and a keen west northwest to the airflow driving those in and in fact, those showers in and in fact, across western scotland, some longer spells of rain expected through the evening. the showers will continue feed the will continue to feed into the north and west of england,
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wales, ireland as well. wales, northern ireland as well. and that brisk it's and with that brisk breeze, it's not to too be chilly not going to too be chilly overnight. but where get some overnight. but where we get some shelter from the winds towards the south—east and more especially northeast scotland the south—east and more espe be lly northeast scotland the south—east and more espe be llytouch |east scotland the south—east and more espe be llytouch of st scotland the south—east and more espe be llytouch of frost)tland the south—east and more espe be llytouch of frost inind will be a touch of frost in places as we begin tuesday. a chilly start and some mist and fog as well parts of fog as well for parts of aberdeenshire, for example. first will clear by 9 first thing that will clear by 9 or 10 am. and then brighter skies for many with some sunny spells for showers from the word go west , but they will go in the west, but they will tend to ease the west later, tend to ease in the west later, whilst one could pop up whilst the odd one could pop up towards central and eastern parts and temperatures will reach similar numbers to monday. so 12 13in the south, 10 or 11 further north, we start wednesday with a chill in the air in the east, but cloudy , air in the east, but cloudy, breezy and wet weather towards the west that will push through followed by brighter skies into the afternoon, but also more frequent showers once again, especially for scotland and northern ireland. and we keep the sunshine showers theme the sunshine and showers theme going through thursday and friday temperatures friday with temperatures not far from for of from average for the time of
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>> it is coming up to 10:00. i'm mark dolan. and this is gb news tonight. home secretary suella sparks controversy by saying rough sleeping in a tent is sometimes a lifestyle choice with fellow tories and even the pm refusing to back her. >> i don't want anyone to sleep rough on our streets. >> that's why the government is investing £2 billion over the next few years to tackle homelessness and rough sleeping. so is suella bang out of order or simply the only tory willing to say unpopular things that the country needs to hear? >> that's the big debate next with tonight's top panel tonight, carole malone , stella tonight, carole malone, stella shante kidu and belinda de lucy. also tonight , whilst he's happy also tonight, whilst he's happy to take a private jet to see pop star katy perry , i kissed a girl star katy perry, i kissed a girl and i liked it. remember that one? prince harry decides to
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skip his own father's seven fifth birthday, no less. is this the ultimate insult to the king royal experts kara kennedy and ingnd royal experts kara kennedy and ingrid seward give their exclusive take shortly . exclusive take shortly. meanwhile, should gary lineker be stood down as host of match of the day following his latest outburst on the israel—hamas war? i'll be asking the man who founded talksport radio, media mogul kelvin mackenzie, who is uncancelled later, if he was lineker's boss, would he cancel him? elsewhere tonight , a him? elsewhere tonight, a bombshell poll reveals that almost three quarters of conservatives think that the aforementioned nigel farage should be admitted back into the party if he reapplies for membership. so if and when the tories are wiped out at the next election is farage as leader, their only hope of coming back with a bang ? well, my panel get with a bang? well, my panel get stuck into that one shortly. a very feisty panel tonight. let me tell you and don't miss tonight's greatest britain and union jackass before the show is
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out. plus tomorrow's front pages. so is suella braverman right to question people sleeping rough in tents or should they carry on camping? we debate that in two minutes. first, the news and polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> mark, thank you. and our top story tonight, the home secretary says hate marches need to understand and that decent british people have had enough of thuggish intimidation and extremism. display that comes after the met office asked protest organisers to urgently reconsider plans for demonstrations in london during remembrance commemorations this weekend. senior police officers say they're concerned by the danger posed by breakaway groups who are intent , they say, on who are intent, they say, on fuelling disorder . the met held fuelling disorder. the met held talks with organisers today, but requests to postpone the protest were declined . and meanwhile the were declined. and meanwhile the
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united nations chief says gaza is becoming a graveyard for children. antonio guterres says the protection of civilians must be paramount in the conflict between israel and hamas. he says israel's ground operations are hitting civilians, hospitals and un facilities, including shelters . at the same time, he shelters. at the same time, he says, hamas uses civilians as human shields and continues launching rockets towards israel . here, laws designed to provide a minimum level of cover during strikes have been extended now to ambulance staff. rail workers and border force employees . and border force employees. train staff will be forced to operate 40% of their normal timetable , while border security timetable, while border security will have to keep all airports open during strikes. the minimum service level act passed earlier this year, but has faced criticism from trade unions who say it threatens the right to strike. now, donald trump has been facing a civil fraud trial
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that threatens his property empire in the united states. the former president is accused of inflating the value of his properties by over £1.65 billion to secure more favourable loan terms, losing the case could mean significant financial consequences for his property interest costs. it comes as mr trump currently leads in the 2024 polls, leading actually in five swing states as well . all five swing states as well. all here thames water admits 12,000 customers in surrey are still having difficulty with their domestic water supplies a week after blaming storm ciaran for affecting a water treatment. works costs . farmers say they've works costs. farmers say they've been unable. still to bathe, shower or even flush the toilet. as well as having to wait a long time in queues for bottled water at nominated pick up points, schools and nurseries in the area were closed today, with students returning to lockdown style online lessons . as style online lessons. as yesterday, thames water declared
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a major incident and apologised to customers for the problems, adding that engineers were working hard to fix what they're calling a technical fault . luton calling a technical fault. luton town football club has threatened to ban any fans found to have taken part in chanting about the hillsborough disaster dunng about the hillsborough disaster during sunday's1—1 draw with liverpool . the club has launched liverpool. the club has launched an internal investigation after chants , which indirectly chants, which indirectly referenced the hillsborough disaster, were heard during the match. luton town has apologised to anyone offended by the chants , adding they were extremely disappointed and the club is now reviewing cctv footage and media footage from the to match identify individuals concerned . identify individuals concerned. and that's the news. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> my thanks to polly
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middlehurst who returns in an hours middlehurst who returns in an hour's time. tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. let's kick off with a first look at tomorrow's front pages. we start with the metro 300,000 get drug to avoid breast cancer. more good news, folks . almost 300,000 good news, folks. almost 300,000 women at risk of breast cancer will be offered a drug to halve their chances of developing the disease. fantastic stuff . the disease. fantastic stuff. the eye newspaper. greene king forced to announce shredding of eco policy . whitehall insiders eco policy. whitehall insiders say the monarch who has campaigned on climate change, will hide his true feelings as he heralds a new era of oil and gas export nation. the king has a job to do, says a uk government source who insists that charles iii, has seen drafts but will have no input in crafting his speech to the house of lords tomorrow announcing tory policies. those are two of your front pages. more to come. but reacting to the big stories of the day, delighted to have with me daily express columnist. always worth read, always
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always worth a read, always worth a listen. carole malone for former labour aide, a brand new star on the show. stella shante keadue and former brexit party mep and professor cornel. dropper of truth bombs. >> belinda de lucy can i just ask stella, is he pronouncing your surname right? he did very well . has he? well. has he? >> i've heard him say three different ways as well. >> i've every time is better than the last. >> yes. >> yes. >> spending the afternoon practising didn't help practising it. that didn't help me in the opening menu. but that's telly for now. that's live telly for you now. suella braverman been suella braverman has been slammed homeless slammed for saying that homeless people tents the people who pitch tents on the streets so because streets do so because it's a quote, lifestyle choice. rough sleeping is at the highest level it's ever been, with a 74% increase in the last decade of tory leadership. but the home secretary raised eyebrows when she said, we'll always support those who are genuinely homeless. cannot allow homeless. but we cannot allow our to be taken over by our streets to be taken over by rows of tents , she went on. rows of tents, she went on. those who cause nuisance and distress to other people by pitching spaces pitching tents in public spaces aggressively begging, stealing and taking drugs , littering and and taking drugs, littering and blighting our communities.
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and taking drugs, littering and blighting our communities . well, blighting our communities. well, it like she takes a dim it seems like she takes a dim view. energy secretary claire coutinho distanced herself from bravermans comments earlier today . rishi sunak also refused today. rishi sunak also refused today. rishi sunak also refused to back his home secretary >> i don't want anyone to sleep rough on our streets. >> that's why the government is investing £2 billion over the next few years to tackle homelessness and rough sleeping. i'm pleased that the number of people sleeping rough is down by a third since a peak. but of course there's more to do . course there's more to do. >> brave honesty >> carole malone. brave honesty from the home secretary or a step too far. >> do you know what i think? you know, saw this story first know, i saw this story first reported guardian and reported in the guardian and then i watched the report. >> you went some >> you hope you went for some other sources. >> yeah, of which >> then. yeah, both of which distorted the story hugely because, yes, she used that phrase , but there was no phrase, but there was no clarification. and even though kay burley was pushing to have a go at suella claire coutinho, who was the energy secretary, made it quite clear what she did was clarified what suella said, and she put some context in her
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comments, which i thought was a really important thing to do because what she said is, yes, we have huge compassion for the many thousands of homeless people in this country. i think there are something like nearly nearly 300,000. the last boguslaw was 271,000. but anyway . and but she said but we you know, and she said, you know, she was talking about drug addicted people and she was saying that, you know, we feel, you know, we feel compassion for them. you the them. and you know, the government they government in 2021, they invested £700 million on homelessness and rough sleeping , homelessness and rough sleeping, as you heard rishi sunak just say, they're about to invest say, now they're about to invest another on exactly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. on exactly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. so on exactly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. so this n exactly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. so this isexactly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. so this is nottly say, now they're about to invest anotthing. so this is not a( that thing. so this is not a government that doesn't care what's talking about. what's suella was talking about. she's about people who she's talking about people who come to this country from abroad. that's what she said. people come from abroad. people who come from abroad. if you lane at the you go to park lane at the moment into that lovely stretch of green there, tent city is happening again. so up until 2021, were dozens of tents 2021, there were dozens of tents there. most romanian travellers would come here to professionally beg . so what they professionally beg. so what they did was they set up camp in
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mayfair and most of them there was one guy, there's a guy in he's called, he's called aurel roman, and he actually has a home in glasgow. he left his kids in romania with his grandparents. got a place grandparents. he's got a place to stay in glasgow, but he comes here london tent and here to london with his tent and here to london with his tent and he professionally. that's he begs professionally. that's the she's talking about, the people she's talking about, because guy aurel because for this guy aurel roman, it is a lifestyle choice to beg on the streets. >> but that's not what she said. she talked about all the rough sleepers. >> she talked. >> she talked. >> she talked. >> she didn't talk about all rough sleepers. she talked about compassion for people. she talked she talked about people who she is, which a rough sleepers i >> every single person who uses a is you are a tent is what you are describing. someone who is trying to fraudulently ask for, beg for money on the streets. >> that's the people she was talking about. >> she made a point of saying people coming from abroad who are setting up in tents. she made saying that. made a point of saying that. >> are so she's >> but there are so she's referring to foreigners who are she's referring to these romanians who come across who are so why did she are travellers. so why did she
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not specifically not say specifically? i'm referring should have referring to she should have specified that. specified and she can say that. >> you think she could >> do you you think she could say, i'm directing this specifically, you know, but you're you're you're talking about have to about people who have a home to live they this live and they choose this particular guy who calls himself the the people on that the king of the people on that thing. he actually has he has said publicly he has been given a l said publicly he has been given a , but he a flat in glasgow, but he doesn't want to be there. he wants to be here because this is where all the rich people are and he wants to beg where the rich are. this is the rich people are. this is the people suella and that's that and rest the people that and the rest of the people that you see across the street because imagine because i'm trying to imagine right now, right? >> i used to work in parliament. i used work into i used to work walk into parliament every single day. and i'm trying imagine people parliament every single day. and i'used'ing imagine people parliament every single day. and i'used'ing sleeping people parliament every single day. and i'used'ing sleeping outsidewle i used to see sleeping outside parliament and the image i have of really reflect of them really doesn't reflect what just saying. what you're just saying. soto me, they look me, what me, what they look to me, what they to me were people who they look to me were people who were, as you said, addicted to drugs, people who suffering drugs, people who were suffering from illness. from serious mental illness. >> going help them. from serious mental illness. >> that'sgoing help them. from serious mental illness. >> that's why] help them. from serious mental illness. >> that's why the help them. from serious mental illness. >> that's why the government is allocating million allocating £700 million this year for those people who are
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addicted drugs. i don't addicted to drugs. so i don't quite you want them to quite know what you want them to do. i want to build do. however i want them to build more well, let's build houses. >> there isn't enough housing no matter the for the matter houses for the for the between the 500 a thousand people. >> no. who come here illegally? >> no. who come here illegally? >> no. who come here illegally? >> no. build houses for everyone. >> build you build houses for everyone so that the people who are incomes do not take are on low incomes do not take the cheapest housing and so that at least some houses exist. you need more council housing basically . basically. >> so would you, would you would you reduce net migration in order to accommodate the people who a home already? who need a home already? >> wouldn't reduce >> i wouldn't reduce net migration can how migration because how can how can have more housing if can you have more housing if 600,000 people come every year? who's going to build these houses? who's going to build? >> so how many houses you >> so how many houses are you going to build year? going to going to build a year? going to a 2 million? million a million? 2 million? 3 million houses year. last year, legal houses a year. last year, legal net was 600,000. and houses a year. last year, legal net already was 600,000. and houses a year. last year, legal net already want; 600,000. and houses a year. last year, legal net already want to 00,000. and houses a year. last year, legal net already want to accommodate you already want to accommodate people who have a home people who don't have a home today. in future years, today. but in future years, those numbers grow . those numbers will grow. >> are you going to fill >> so how are you going to fill all these? oh, no, i know all of these? oh, no, i know what you're going to say. i'm going ask, how are you going
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going to ask, how are you going to these jobs which to fill all of these jobs which the are taking? the immigrants are taking? because about because if you're talking about legal migration, then you're talking about solution to legal migration, then you're talk housingit solution to legal migration, then you're talk housing crisis solution to legal migration, then you're talk housing crisis is olution to legal migration, then you're talk housing crisis is t01tion to the housing crisis is to maintain migration at maintain net migration at 600,000 year. maintain net migration at 60(it)00 year. maintain net migration at 60( it makes ear. maintain net migration at 60( it makes no. maintain net migration at 60( it makes no sense. >> it makes no sense. >> it makes no sense. >> you need to increase >> belinda you need to increase net you are not net migration. you are not you're having enough babies you're not having enough babies in country to not increase, in this country to not increase, but to fix. but you're going to fix. >> you need more sevilla let's just let's have reality check. just let's have a reality check. you're to fix our housing you're going to fix our housing crisis houses, you're going to fix our housing crisby houses, you're going to fix our housing crisby continuing houses, you're going to fix our housing crisby continuing to houses, you're going to fix our housing crisby continuing to havejuses, you're going to fix our housing crisby continuing to have legal by by continuing to have legal net of 600,000 people. net migration of 600,000 people. a year. >> how we fix the housing >> that's how we fix the housing stagnate. >> that's how we fix the housing stag is ate. >> that's how we fix the housing stag is that fix the >> is that how we fix the economy is stagnating. >> us if labour not >> oh, god help us if labour not not as badly, not as badly as germany, going the nhs. >> the way to fix your nhs is that you need more nurses and you need more doctors . and while you need more doctors. and while you need more doctors. and while you still are not training enough them. enough of them. >> wait, wait. >> wait, wait. >> i'll talk. stella! >> wait, wait. >> stella! k. stella! >> stella! >> stella! >> what won't do. and we >> what we won't do. and we shouldn't do is strip poorer countries of their hospital staff. is one of the most staff. it is one of the most lazy, immoral things that governments could do. we should be training our own domestic workforce. should be housing workforce. we should be housing the of the hardworking people of
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britain country. first. britain in this country. first. we get own house in we need to get our own house in order. the idea that people are coming abroad without any coming from abroad without any money to financially support themselves, cannot be themselves, that cannot be allowed. an open door to allowed. that's an open door to the of the world's poor to the whole of the world's poor to just come and bring a tent and set in the park. set up in the park. >> don't understand how legal >> i don't understand how legal net migration of 600,000 people every for the foreseeable every year for the foreseeable is fix our housing is going to fix our housing crisis going help people crisis is going to help people to get a gp appointment or a school place for their kid. so make it make sense. >> it's going who's going to >> it's going to who's going to provide for provide social care for old people. for the old people. >> have we have 5 million >> we have we have 5 million people who are working age, not active economy right now. active in the economy right now. >> is going to stop? i've >> who is going to stop? i've answered question. >> who is going to stop? i've ans doctors question. >> who is going to stop? i've ans doctors . question. >> who is going to stop? i've ans doctors . are jestion. >> who is going to stop? i've ans doctors . are these]. >> who is going to stop? i've ans doctors . are these doctors >> doctors. are these doctors and nurses who are out of job as well? no. >> are suggesting that >> but are you suggesting that the people that come >> but are you suggesting that the legally people that come >> but are you suggesting that the legally every le that come >> but are you suggesting that the legally every yearat come >> but are you suggesting that the legally every year are ome here legally every year are doctors, nurses and brickies? i don't think so. belinda let me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme1ink so. belinda let me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme ask so. belinda let me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme ask you belinda let me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme ask you abouta let me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme ask you about this me doctors, nurses and brickies? i dorme ask you about this issue, let me ask you about this issue, though. and stella is though. one, and stella is entitled make her point, but entitled to make her point, but we don't our cities we don't want our cities overpopulated with tents . we've
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overpopulated with tents. we've seen it in san francisco , los seen it in san francisco, los angeles and seattle and it's a pubuc angeles and seattle and it's a public order disaster and a humanitarian disaster , too. humanitarian disaster, too. >> i think most brits suella is right. most brits feel very compassionate about those who are homeless. if i saw someone on the streets in a tent on a cold winter's night, my first thought would be thank god cold winter's night, my first thoughtgotjld be thank god cold winter's night, my first thoughtgot a:i be thank god cold winter's night, my first thought got a tent. “hank god cold winter's night, my first thought got a tent. youk god cold winter's night, my first thought got a tent. you know, they've got a tent. you know, that's where our hearts lie. but the point is, if we're going to encourage tent cities like we've seen seattle, seen in san francisco, seattle, no businesses , no go areas, destroy businesses, disclose businesses down unsafe, unsafe for the people involved . unsafe for the people involved. and also, what about personal, responsible ? see, a lot of the responsible? see, a lot of the people choose go into tents people choose to go into tents because don't want to take because they don't want to take the drug programs that are offered them take offered to them or go take housing opportunities because they their gang they want to keep their gang or their isn't of their family. this isn't all of them. suella made the point them. but suella made the point that would support and that they would support you and homeless people. >> make the >> but we mustn't make the mistake cities, mistake of america's cities, especially blue especially those those blue states with with, you know, miles and miles of people taking drugs, living in tents. we've got to draw the line somewhere here. >> again, i blame the police in this country because, you know,
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tent is now resurrecting tent city is now resurrecting itself already. and itself in mayfair already. and there's lots of there up until 2021, when it was cleared, the cops would ask them to move every because they're every day because they're breaking won't. breaking the law. they won't. they're them they they're asking them now and they won't move. something has to give. can't have lawlessness give. you can't have lawlessness like on streets and you like that on the streets and you can't people coming from can't have people coming from abroad and setting gangs of abroad and setting up gangs of professional beggars to go around the city. >> stella, briefly , if you can, >> stella, briefly, if you can, we all agree that we need we can all agree that we need compassion for people that are on streets we need on the streets and we need accommodation. but i think this country draw line and country should draw a line and not principle of not accept the principle of square after square mile of square mile after square mile of tent in america. tent cities like in america. it's a terribly failed deal with the problem , deal with the the drug problem, deal with the drug problem, make people drug problem, make sure people don't addicted drugs. don't get addicted to drugs. >> you talk. >> you talk. >> tories have nothing. >> the tories have done nothing. they've multi—millions >> the tories have done nothing. theaddiction multi—millions >> the tories have done nothing. the addiction programme.ons the addiction programme. >> listen, folks, >> well, listen, folks, this show is the home of diverse opinion. what's yours? market news.com. debate. news.com. fascinating debate. but bombshell poll but coming up, a bombshell poll reveals that almost three quarters conservatives think quarters of conservatives think nigel farage should be admitted back party if he back into the party if he reapplies for membership. so if
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and when the tories are wiped out at the next election, is farage as leader their only hope of coming back with a bang? my panel will return that panel will return to debate that very shortly. fonnard to very shortly. looking fonnard to heanng very shortly. looking fonnard to hearing opinions. but hearing their opinions. but next, happy to take next, whilst he's happy to take a pop next, whilst he's happy to take a pop star a private jet to see pop star katy perry , prince harry decides katy perry, prince harry decides to snub and skip his father's 75th birthday. can you believe that? so is this the ultimate insult to the king? royal experts carrowkennedy and ingrid seward give their exclusive takes in a few moments . big takes in a few moments. big royal debate. see
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fun. every weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . should britain's news channel. should match of the day star gary lineker be stood down from his job after his explosive tweets about the israel hamas war. >> i'll be asking fleet street icon and the founder of talksport radio, kelvin mackenzie, shortly. but it's time now for royal experts kyra kennedy and ingrid seward . and kennedy and ingrid seward. and after his testing, state visit to kenya, the king's attentions now turn to the cop 28 climate conference at the end of november, where he will travel to dubai to deliver the summit's opening speech. but before that, the monarch will enjoy a well—deserved break to celebrate his 75th birthday with his closest family and friends. but according to the sunday times, prince harry and meghan markle won't be making the trip across the pond after allegedly snubbing the king's personal invite . but while
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snubbing the king's personal invite. but while harry and meghan might have decided to skip the king's birthday, they were more than happy to take a private jet to las vegas yesterday to watch pop star katy perry with a host of a—list friends like cameron diaz . friends like cameron diaz. listen this is a disputed story . listen this is a disputed story. see, apparently the sussexes deny they received a invitation . deny they received a invitation. but let's speak to ingrid about this. ingrid having lectured the pubuc this. ingrid having lectured the public about climate change, is their latest private jet jaunt. yet more proof that the sussexes are eco hypocrites ? are eco hypocrites? >> well , i are eco hypocrites? >> well, i think are eco hypocrites? >> well , i think whatever they >> well, i think whatever they do, they're going to be branded eco hypocrites. hip hypocrites . eco hypocrites. hip hypocrites. harry is a harry thick skin, said they. yes. yes absolutely. harry's always said , if there's harry's always said, if there's another way, he will try and take it. but i mean, any there's a lot of celebrities who travel in private jets and who also talk about climate change. and it's it is very hypocritical .
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it's it is very hypocritical. and i think i think that it's probably a bad idea if you want to take private jet travel. and why shouldn't you , um, to go on why shouldn't you, um, to go on about climate change, it just doesn't work. and i think in the las vegas trip, they went from santa barbara, which is where they live in with gwyneth paltrow, her husband. and about i think there was like eight other people . so there were ten other people. so there were ten in all. so in fact, you can't blame them for that . ten people blame them for that. ten people on a gulfstream, you know, in an houn on a gulfstream, you know, in an hour, 40 minute journey is probably about the same as if they'd taken ten people and gone commercial . so perhaps that's commercial. so perhaps that's not the greatest, um, comparison . but in the past, harry and meghan have taken a lot, a lot of private jets and they still talked about the crisis of climate change, which is one of the things that harry has always said , that he was very, very said, that he was very, very keen to do something about. so it just doesn't work. but at the moment i don't think much seems
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to be working for them. >> yeah, well , listen, i've got >> yeah, well, listen, i've got to say, ten people on a gulfstream doesn't sound like a squash and a squeeze. ryanair, it ain't. i personally take the view that you cannot lecture people about the climate and take private jets. for me, the two are not compatible. but look, it's all about opinions. earlier today , harry's earlier today, harry's representatives insist , cara, representatives insist, cara, that there had been no contact with his father about an invitation, an to the birthday party. the spokesman said it's disappointing the sunday times has misreported this story. what's your view ? what's your view? >> well , i'm still here in >> well, i'm still here in different things. >> this is very much a story that's still moving in. obviously, the original was by royal knicker and the sunday times, who's a very good royal expert. and correspondent, and her claim was that harry was not to going make the trip from california . and it's interesting california. and it's interesting that the sussexes put their name to this in their response . s it to this in their response. s it was an official spokesperson that claimed that they had
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received no invitation . an and received no invitation. an and it's and they were disappointed in the sunday times. and usually when harry and meghan want to dispute something it's a source close to the couple. but you can tell that with this this with this statement , they really want this statement, they really want to get in front of the story and show the world that king charles has snubbed the pair for his his birthday celebrations. indeed >> i mean, listen, the bottom line, ingrid, whether this story is true or not, the prince should be there . well of course should be there. well of course it should be. >> he should be there. but he's shown a great reluctance to do anything in this country. shown a great reluctance to do anything in this country . and anything in this country. and meghan has shown an even greater reluctance, even when he went to the games fairly the invictus games fairly recently , she she touched down recently, she she touched down in london airport briefly and then flew on, flew on to germany. but i think that really
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probably the king feels that, you know, harry's presence probably wouldn't be very welcome amongst the rest of the family . but if welcome amongst the rest of the family. but if it's a welcome amongst the rest of the family . but if it's a big welcome amongst the rest of the family. but if it's a big ish party and there's a lot of people there would it really matter? i feel in my heart that that that charles would invite his son just out of politeness , his son just out of politeness, knowing that he will probably refuse and praying that he refuses . well, indeed. refuses. well, indeed. >> i mean, cara, if it was my dad, i wouldn't wait for an invitation. i'd be on a plane, i'd be blinking, going there with a lovely gift . i'd be blinking, going there with a lovely gift. poor i'd be blinking, going there with a lovely gift . poor old with a lovely gift. poor old charles, right ? with a lovely gift. poor old charles, right? he's 75. he's not going to be around forever. what the hell is harry thinking? >> i think most people would take the initiative to say , oh, take the initiative to say, oh, this is my father. he is the king and he's a birthday party. but also this gives them an excuse. of course, this is going to be a chapter in the next book, the story of the next documentary is saying, oh, well, look, i wasn't even invited to a party. this is why they put in their names to it. they are
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their names to it. and they are getting front of the story getting in front of the story with an official statement saying, look , we are we are saying, oh, look, we are we are so hard done by. we weren't invited . invited. >> indeed. listen, he should be there for the king's birthday and he should say, dad, i've got and he should say, dad, i've got a soap on a rope. i've got a bottle of perfume, a bit of aftershave for you and all the rest of it. but look, there you go. that is the duke of sussex for you. my thanks to kyra kennedy and ingrid seward. fascinating debate on that one. but coming up next in uncanceled before 11, should gary lineker before 11, should gary lineker be stood down as host of match of the day following his latest outburst on the israel or hamas war? i'll be asking the man who founded talksport radio media mogul kelvin mackenzie . but mogul kelvin mackenzie. but straight after this. in the media buzz, a bombshell poll reveals that almost three quarters of conservatives think nigel farage should be admitted back into the party if he reapplies for membership . so if reapplies for membership. so if and when the tories are wiped out at the next election is
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farage as leader, their only hope of coming back with a bang . hope of coming back with a bang. my very spicy panel debate that
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of people who tear down posters of people who tear down posters of missing israeli hostages or vandalise them with obscenities . vandalise them with obscenities. well come back to the show. >> tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. more front pages have arrived. and we start with the sun eco harry, who we've just been discussing, flies to, katy perry gig in oil tycoons . katy perry gig in oil tycoons. jet you couldn't make it up, could you ? daily mirror now could you? daily mirror now michelle mone shock finally she admits peep link after three years of denying she had anything to do with £200 million covid deal. baroness changes story daily mail ids. that's ian duncan smith to you and me, the shadowy tory cabal forced me out just like boris. moreover relations from nadine dorries new book and really, really
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disturbing story on the front page of the mail. poppy seller 78 punched by protesters is actually referred to him in directly in my big opinion monologue. a poppy seller caught up in a pro—palestinian rally said he was punched and kicked by a mob of protesters. jim henderson, who served with the army in northern ireland, was set upon whilst manning a stall at edinburgh's waverley station . at edinburgh's waverley station. okay . well, look, let's get okay. well, look, let's get reaction to the big stories of the day from my fantastic pundits . the day from my fantastic pundits. tonight, we the day from my fantastic pundits . tonight, we have the day from my fantastic pundits. tonight, we have daily express columnist carole malone, who shrinks by the day. brand new star on the programme, former labour aide shooting from the hip. i mean , talk about the hip. i mean, talk about fireworks nights. tell her chanted at and former brexit party mep a proper catherine wheel in her own right what a sparkler belinda de lucy you know what that was that was that was the different pronunciation again you've done for some i took it. i take it around the
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world. the pronunciation. yes okay. a man of a thousand voices. now he's the new star who may or may not land in the i'm a celebrity jungle any day now. i think he will. but what next politically for the man who almost single handedly engineered the engineered our exit from the european well according european union? well according to three quarters of true blue conservative members, nigel farage should sensation finally be rejoin the party be allowed to rejoin the party if he applies for membership, potentially paving the way for an eventual tory takeover for that could see him one day become leader. the bombshell poll from conservative home lays bare the potential for a complete party revamp that some members say is much needed to rediscover true conservative principles. some 72% of members reckon he should be allowed back into the fold. 23% say he should not. so, carol, could farage save the tories? >> you know, i think if they get wiped out in the next election, which we think they're going to, i think he possibly could. you
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know, he's political marmite. you love him or you hate him. and i think huge and but i think that huge swathes of tory membership swathes of the tory membership love him. the tory love him. i think the tory machine him machine does not love him because it would not be able to control him it would want to control him and it would want to . and but i think there are lots of tories now favour of him of tories now in favour of him coming back . you know, the thing coming back. you know, the thing about was he was he had a about boris was he was he had a he had star quality and i think farage has the same kind of star quality. farage has got a backbone compared to boris. >> completely . >> well, completely. >> well, completely. >> he's got a backbone. i mean, i've campaign trail i've been on the campaign trail with farage and twice now and both times i've been stunned by the connection he makes with people of every class, every colour, every creed, every class. they had ten minutes with him, they adore him. and i him, and they adore him. and i think and we need a leader now. i'm trying to think of a leader. we have had in the past 30 years who being unafraid. and the who was being unafraid. and the last one i can think of is thatcher, who was unafraid. i think he would be exactly that kind of leader. he would do and say he thinks to be the say what he thinks to be the right thing and worry what
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right thing and not worry what the thinks it the tory machine thinks about it . so yeah, i think if the thing is he's not going to he's got to get back into the tory party first. think rishi first. and i don't think rishi currently get currently will allow him to get on list because he would be on the list because he would be too big a threat for him currently. but i think that when the tories get thrashed, which they the they probably will in the election , he's the door is open. election, he's the door is open. stella i think you should be worried because i think if nigel farage over the tory farage takes over the tory party, were to become party, if he were to become leader come, not leader in years to come, not only he reinvigorate only would he reinvigorate conservatism this country, conservatism in this country, but think he would take but i think he would take thousands , if hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of labour votes. >> know what? >> you know what? >> you know what? >> i'm going to shock you. i kind of do agree that he is a threat to the labour party . i threat to the labour party. i also agree i'm going to shock you once more because i agree . you once more because i agree. nigel for us has taken a chill pill. >> what's going on? >> what's going on? >> i start. >> i start. >> they made me a tea. >> they made me a tea. >> can i say how she shocked me before? she thinks matt hancock is hot? did i just say, oh my god, you just say that? god, did you just say that? >> you fancy matt hancock? >> that is by far the most
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outrageous thing you've said tonight. she said all night. >> i just can't get that video of him out of my mind that's been rounds on been making the rounds on twitter. nigel farage. >> you need need therapy. >> you need you need therapy. but anyway, carry on back to nigel farage. >> the one hand, i'm thinking >> on the one hand, i'm thinking if he goes back if he goes back to the tory party then this will mean the tories will become completely feral and they will go to the extremes and they will be in the wilderness . great, be in the wilderness. great, amazing labour will be able to be on the centre ground. all will be good on the other hand, i do remember that obama adviser the before the 2016 elections who was praying for trump to get the nomination for the republican party and that does worry me a bit when i think about that. i'm thinking, yes, maybe you may be right. you may be right about him being threat. >> what do you think about this? i mean, i think tory voters look at rishi sunak and they feel
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like they got the second prize in bullseye . they look at in bullseye. they look at farage. he's the speedboat, isn't he? >> i think nigel farage is too good for the conservative party in its current state. if i'm being honest. i think, as carol said, machinery behind said, the machinery behind the party controls the party is what controls it. the parliamentary party is no longer conservative and they have deserted their voters and if nigel farage was to consider rejoining the conservative party, it needs to completely recreate itself and morph into something that is for the british people and lowering taxes and controlling immigration. and at the moment, i'm not sure i can see that happening . nigel farage is the happening. nigel farage is the hero this country needs , without hero this country needs, without a as far as i'm concerned a doubt. as far as i'm concerned . i worked with him in the european he's the european parliament. he's the best boss i've had. he is best boss i've ever had. he is so boss, gentlemanly to so nice, boss, gentlemanly to his core. and i would say this, the thing that separates nigel from a lot tory is he from a lot of tory mps is he puts country before party every single time, which is one of the reasons i think he stayed outside politics and that's why
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people outside of the parliament, uk parliament, that's respect that's why people respect him because of folklore. because he's kind of folklore. he's that combination of wat tyler, the magna carta crew, the chartists and churchill all rolled into one. and it's that kind of leadership and courage of conviction we really need right now in the country. but whether conservative party right now in the country. but wideserving conservative party right now in the country. but wideserving of nservative party right now in the country. but wideserving of him,ative party right now in the country. but wideserving of him, i'm) party right now in the country. but wideserving of him, i'm notrty is deserving of him, i'm not sure, carol. >> i think people shouldn't forget he's one of the most successful unelected politicians of this generation. >> know, he he forced >> you know, he he forced brexit. he forced david cameron to have brexit the political. and look what he's done with with natwest bank and he's decimated that publicly he kept jeremy corbyn out of number 10 because he did a deal with boris not to run candidates in in marginal seats. he's hugely powerful , hugely influential. powerful, hugely influential. and the thing is, the and but the thing is, the political class are terrified of him. they're terrified of his honesty. they're terrified of his the gutsiness he has, because none of them have it, including tories, the tories are terrified of him. >> and that's the problem, isn't it? were to lead that it? if he were to lead that party, there a mass
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party, there would be a mass exodus. tory wets belinda exodus. the tory wets belinda would run for the hills. >> they need to run for the hills. >> but then he'd have no party left, he? left, would he? >> he lost the centre and the >> if he lost the centre and the centre of the party, it centre right of the party, it would be hollowed out, surely. >> they've hollowed >> i think they've hollowed themselves it's become an themselves out. it's become an in—fight writing cabal. such a broad church. they're their own opposition. they opposition. i think they themselves have damaged the tory brand. them and nigel brand. get rid of them and nigel could. don't know what his could. i don't know what his plans he, he plans are but whether he, he sets up his own version or he just takes the tory mps that do have backbone and joins with them. i don't know what the plans are or what happens, but this country needs him. >> he would do what boris did at the last election. i'm pretty sure he would wipe the floor with every party. >> stella. with every party. >> itella. the are going >> i think the tories are going to feral after the next to go feral after the next election. are to going be election. they are to going be in the wilderness with matt hancock the jungle. that's hancock in the jungle. that's where who is where they will be. who is it that very watchable? that will be very watchable? >> is who? who is. >> who is who? who is. >> who is who? who is. >> i confuse myself. >> i confuse myself. >> who the farage of the left >> who is the farage of the left ? who is the totemic figure on the politics? that is
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the left of politics? that is the left of politics? that is the of nigel. the equivalent of nigel. >> got one. >> we haven't got one. >> we haven't got one. >> don't think have one. >> i don't think we have one. yeah, don't think we have one. yeah, i don't think we have one. >> and that could be a problem going fonnard. >> need to do that. >> maybe i need to do that. >> maybe i need to do that. >> i think it could be stella ngl. folks coming as ngl. listen folks coming up as north police bemoan north yorkshire police bemoan crowds a man crowds that watched a man drowning instead of trying to help taking help allegedly even taking selfies, become selfies, have we become a selfish we selfish and idiotic society? we debate in tonight's edition debate that in tonight's edition of britain and union of greatest britain and union jackass but in uncanceled, jackass. but next in uncanceled, looking fonnard to this. should gary lineker be stood as gary lineker be stood down as host of of the day host of match of the day following his latest outburst on the israel hamas war? i'll be asking the man who founded talksport radio media mogul kelvin mackenzie. he's live in the studio . he's spitting fire the studio. he's spitting fire and he's
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n ext next it's time now for uncanceled and gary lineker sparked outrage after his latest political outburst on twitter. saw the bbc presenter criticise suella braverman reacting to
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pro—palestine activists planning to march on remembrance sunday andindeed to march on remembrance sunday and indeed armistice day. the home secretary said it's entirely unacceptable to desecrate armistice day with a hate march through london, to which lineker saint gary lineker responded, marching and calling for a ceasefire and peace. so that more innocent children don't get killed is not really the definition of a hate march. well reacting to this is fleet street legend, former founder and ceo of talksport radio , and ceo of talksport radio, kelvin mackenzie. so, kelvin, this one's a shocker, isn't it? yes you were you know, about sort of talent that go a little bit awol , that go rogue. would bit awol, that go rogue. would you put up with this behaviour if you were a media proprietor from the likes of gary lineker? is it acceptable if look, if he works for talksport , he goes and works for talksport, he goes and works for talksport, he goes and works for talksport, he goes and works for itv or he goes and works for itv or he goes and works for itv or he goes and works for tnt, he can work for whoever he likes as long as i don't have to pay for his views. >> i object to the fact that that part of my licence fee goes to his look. he's entitled to
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earn what he wants to earn. he makes 1.22 million a year and he could earn a lot more. i suspect. i don't want him to talk about things like palestine. i don't want him to talk about israel. i don't want to talk about poverty. i want him to talk about the fact that tottenham got beaten tonight. four know, that's fine. four one. you know, that's fine. and i'm not saying i'm not saying he's he's a fool or anything like that. i object . anything like that. i object. and what i can't understand is why there is a director general , why there is a director general, a ceo of a company who can't say to him, look, mate, it's been great, here we are. we'll pay your contract up. just off. and if you've got any views, please give them to somewhere else. he knows that his entire political standing and the fact that his tweets mean anything are connected to the fact that he works for the bbc. he knows that if he works for talksport and he suddenly says, you know, he's running the breakfast show on talksport, then nobody gives a about it. don't. i object to about it. i don't. i object to my money going into his pocket
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and him giving him views. i radically disagree with. >> most definitely. and it tells you that there's a failure of management at the beeb because i don't think any of the other presenters would get away with it. >> they all hate it. they absolutely detest it all that mob on, on, on the today programme who probably have the biggest currently biggest intellects now currently at the bbc, they keep on saying how is he. he can talk about palestine and israel we the palestine and israel and we the minute we step outside the line, we are in trouble. so there is one rule for him and what they say about that he's a say about him is that he's a sport freelancer or something like that. now, the majority of his money, i'd be very interested agree his money, i'd be very intenthatl agree his money, i'd be very intenthat because agree his money, i'd be very intenthat because it's agree his money, i'd be very intenthat because it's normally with that because it's normally defined your freelance is how much money that particular role bnngs much money that particular role brings in. and if it is a if it's a percentage, that's too high against your total earnings, then you are considered an employee. and so i imagine that he's heading towards that since he seems to be cutting down. now, the good news is that the bbc have won match of the day a game which
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takes it to 2029. by the way, that's £71 million our money. that's £71 million of our money. but thing is, the last but the other thing is, the last thing that 62 year old mr thing that that 62 year old mr lineker said was that he was heading towards the end of his time. so i suspect there's half a deal in the works where when this contract runs out, he finally says after what has been a phenomenal run, a 25 year run on television, thank you and good night. and that way every body will be happy. we're not on his case and the bbc bosses don't have to keep defending him all the time. it's a ludicrous waste of everybody's time. >> has he been terribly misjudged ? isn't he just a misjudged? isn't he just a lovely guy? that's worried about people dying in the middle east? >> well, look, that may well be true. is he a lovely guy ? true. is he a lovely guy? >> he as pure as the >> well, is he as pure as the dnven >> well, is he as pure as the driven snow? >> i had a round of golf >> well, i had a round of golf with once. don't think he with him once. i don't think he liked much. did you liked me very much. did you thrash him? no, i didn't, actually. he was a pretty good golfer. time golfer. he's got plenty of time to do it. and he he he no, no,
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he didn't. are you the sand? he didn't. are you in the sand? be kelvin. he didn't. he be honest, kelvin. he didn't. he didn't to me very much. didn't speak to me very much. and don't blame him, to be and i don't blame him, to be honest. that's role most honest. that's the role most people have. at the of people have. but at the end of at the his time, this may at the end of his time, this may be the end of his time and that will be good. >> okay. there you go. well, look, recently published look, the bbc recently published new guidance on social media following a review former following a review by former tv executive john hardy. hardy said high outside executive john hardy. hardy said higjournalism outside executive john hardy. hardy said higjournalism should outside executive john hardy. hardy said higjournalism should benutside executive john hardy. hardy said higjournalism should be ablee of journalism should be able to express views on issues and policies, including of policies, including matters of political contention, but stopped well short of campaigning or campaigning in party politics or for activist organisations. it's clear the bbc and the public expect bbc non—news expect the bbc non—news presenters maintain high presenters to maintain high standards on social media and respect an appropriate balance between impartiality and freedom of expression . now, kelvin, of expression. now, kelvin, you're going love story . you're going to love this story. the un's poverty tsar has told the newspaper of all the guardian newspaper of all people, british universal people, that british universal credit payments are too low and that the government is violating international law. so what? the un aren't happy ? are you quaking un aren't happy? are you quaking in your boots? >> i couldn't give a toss about what the un say about anything.
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i mean, their current standing on the middle east is utterly degrading for most of the most of the global people . so the of the global people. so the bottom line on this is this guy who cares what he has to say about there are poverty problems around the world, go to africa, go properly to the middle east, go properly to the middle east, go to go to lots of places. the one place where there is not a problem when you throw in all the benefits, housing benefit, universal credit you know, in—work benefits, there are 1,000,001 benefits. the reason that people like coming here is because of the benefits. we don't hear that from this guy. so this guy says, i need some publicity. and by the way, labour look as though they're going to come in. the labour love handing over loads of money to people who don't don't do any work produce anything. work or don't produce anything. >> this >> and what about this interference from unelected interference from an unelected body the un? and we don't body like the un? and we don't want to take lectures from them, do we? >> well, you been taking >> well, have you been taking lectures from them? well there will the likes lectures from them? well there wi the the likes lectures from them? well there wi the and the likes lectures from them? well there wi the and probably; of the guardian and probably opposition mps won't here.
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>> they'll be lapping this. >> they'll be lapping this. >> wouldn't much >> i wouldn't worry too much about guardian. they've got about the guardian. they've got enough own and enough problems of their own and i that what are i would think that what they are their only reader, aren't they? i am currently their only tweeter because love. i love tweeter because i love. i love their stuff because i read it. then! their stuff because i read it. then i tweet about it and tens of thousands of people. then join side. so they can join in on my side. so they can carry on. but truth is, carry on. but the truth is, i have no idea why . why he would have no idea why. why he would say this about universal credit have no idea why. why he would s mean, about universal credit have no idea why. why he would s mean, universalversal credit have no idea why. why he would s mean, universal credit credit have no idea why. why he would s mean, universal credit is edit i mean, universal credit is a great thing people want great thing and people want there to be some kind of safety bowl in life. but what they don't want it to be is, is basically a huge car and god knows what else. >> do you know what i'm getting tired of, kelvin, is this sort of hobby, this this sport of bashing britain. i think it's punishment for brexit. i mean, look at the sort of very unreliable forecasting we've had from regard to from the imf with regard to our economy which proved economy, which have been proved wrong during covid. we were plague ireland. well, actually, our covid outcomes compared quite the end to germany quite well in the end to germany and now and others. meanwhile, now apparently enough apparently we don't have enough benefits. this is just british bashing bashing, you
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bashing bashing, don't you think? well i'll1—1 of the think? well i'll 1—1 of the great things about our media is that we do give of the critics a bigger show than we actually give things that go well. >> for instance, if we take today, everybody says that we're skint in this country, right? you can't meet anybody. the middle class is, oh, it's terrible, right? we now discover that new car sales in october are 14% up on last year. and that ryanair had such a great summer that their profits have gone up 24. everybody went on holiday. everybody you meet goes on holiday, right? so everyone is skint. i'm so skinned , i must is skint. i'm so skinned, i must buy that new car. i'm so skinned, i must go on my third holiday. it is complete cobblers. i'm not saying that there aren't people who are in a little bit of trouble. most of the country is doing just great and living a great life. we also found out today that jeremy hunt, the chancellor, might have an extra 6 billion to play an extra 6 or 7 billion to play with that fiscal with because that fiscal headroom better than headroom is better than surprise, headroom is better than surprise obr
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headroom is better than surpriseobr predicted . listen, >> the obr predicted. listen, kelvin, nigel, should he go into the jungle? nigel farage yes, he should. >> it'd be fantastic . first of >> it'd be fantastic. first of all, he's a very clever bloke, a very engaging guy. and what he will be doing is reshape , will be doing is reshape, shaping the vile nigel kind of personality into a very cuddly kind of guy. and people are saying, well, he's not a bad 9”)!- saying, well, he's not a bad guy. and then the next thing and i think we've discussed this before, he'll nip into the conservative party and he'll be the leader of the conservatives and they will go back to having and they will go back to having an 80 seat majority in 2029. i think he probably could do three terms thatcher couldn't he? terms like thatcher couldn't he? no, couldn't. but no, he couldn't. but nevertheless , if he's got your nevertheless, if he's got your energy, listen , what about you? energy, listen, what about you? >> you must have been approached by times. would you be by itv many times. would you be tempted with a tempted to spend time with a bunch reptiles? bunch of reptiles? >> well, the issue there is what happens have been happens is i have been approached 2 or times, approached about 2 or 3 times, and time shown and each time i've shown interest because i, you interest in it because i, you know, i know it strange. know, i know it sounds strange. i quite enjoy the idea of a couple of hundred grand. right and is, the thing is
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and the thing is, the thing is that whenever to that whenever push came to shove, somebody , somebody had shove, somebody, somebody had had quick look my wikipedia had a quick look at my wikipedia and said, we can't have and they said, we can't have a like him in there. and boom, it's i'm out door. it's i'm out the door. >> you would would >> you would ratings would go through roof. through the roof. >> yes not in some parts of >> yes. yes not in some parts of the country if you you think the country if you if you think the country if you if you think the north west we might be think nigel nigel this year you next yearif nigel nigel this year you next year if you do go into dan wootton the after listen wootton the year after listen i'd see dan back on the box. >> listen, here's the thing, right? if you got the celebrity right, would you be to down david lloyd lifting a few weights ready for weights just to get ready for the show? >> look, body is it. >> see, look, my body is it. >> see, look, my body is it. >> would it be my body fitness routine? >> my body is a cathedral and i don't need any help . don't need any help. >> and you've had balls in your mouth in the past, haven't you? >> those that's working for rupert? yes. >> those that those bushtucker trials. listen. there you go. look, do do we? look, we don't do boring, do we? thank kelvin. see you in a thank you, kelvin. see you in a week's time. let's now get my brilliant on brilliant pundits thoughts on greatest and union greatest britain and union jackass. greatest britain and union jackass . let's start you, carol. >> carol, his body is a
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cathedral. he's just all my biscuits out there. >> but anyway, i would love to see kelvin in the jungle. >> ratings would go through the roof. you mind roof. carol, do you mind powering through your your powering through this? your your greatest britain. >> well, i'll do it. suella bravo for saying that anyone who defaces the cenotaph at the pro—palestinian march on saturday jailed faster saturday should be jailed faster than feet can touch the than their feet can touch the ground. she's100% right. this weekend is about our war dead. that day is sacrosanct and should be respected . should be respected. >> what a great shout. how about you, stella? your greatest britain, your first ever, your layla moran. >> because she's half palestinian and she's been an absolute trouper in the last week and in the last month since the 7th of october massacre. she has family in palestine. the 7th of october massacre. she has family in palestine . she has family in palestine. she knows people who have lost 30 to 40 family members in a matter of months of one month. and then my union jackass. >> no, not yet. oh we'll come to that. i'll do my quickly. >> you're doing great, belinda. >> you're doing great, belinda. >> it's elon musk. in response to the veterans at the protest at the weekend holding british
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flags and the police ticking them off, he sent a tweet out saying, seems extremely wrong for citizens be for british citizens to be attacked holding up their for british citizens to be atta(while holding up their for british citizens to be atta(while nothingg up their for british citizens to be atta(while nothing happensr for british citizens to be atta(while nothing happens to flag while nothing happens to those who old, other hold those who are old, other hold other flags and i wish other flags. and for you, i wish our political leaders would say the thing, musk great the same thing, musk great shout. >> my greatest britain is the freedom elon who freedom loving elon musk, who i think might just save the world. uni elon jackass. briefly, uni elon jackass. carol briefly, if you can. all right. >> all those people in york who took while a man was took selfies while a man was drowning and this is ridiculous thing to do. allegedly lifebelt by the side. no one threw through them to this guy . by the side. no one threw through them to this guy. he didn't die. and then, thank god, but that was thanks to the emergency service. >> go for that jackass. >> now, carol, you're to >> now, carol, you're going to love this. my jackass is suella braverman. because at the time when we need be united when we need to be united against tragedy , suella is against tragedy, suella is dividing the british people on false lines. >> oh, what a line. okay. a few truth bombs being dropped there. what about belinda? what about you, belinda? >> mine mine . >> yeah, mine is that mine. jackass is just stop oil. how jackass is a just stop oil. how dare they? they're like toddlers. latest gimmick
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toddlers. their latest gimmick toddlers. their latest gimmick to go and disrespect our cenotaph and smashing glass at an gallery . what complete an art gallery. what complete idiots. bear them. idiots. i can't bear them. they're jackass. they're my jackass. >> well, giving it to carol. >> well, i'm giving it to carol. not literally. it is. those people who allegedly did not help somebody was help somebody that was struggling water for. struggling in the water for. thank to brilliant panel thank you to my brilliant panel tonight, team, the tonight, my excellent team, the other of the camera , and other side of the camera, and most importantly, you for your company. i should be looking after this slot for the rest of the week. so it's monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday. i'll you tomorrow at nine. i'll see you tomorrow at nine. i'm delighted to say that the excellent headliners are next. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast. for gb news from the met office, showers for many of us continuing over the next 24 hours, the most frequent of these be in the west. of these will be in the west. the clearest skies and the driest intervals will be towards the east. we've got low pressure sitting to the north of scotland at moment and a keen west at the moment and a keen west northwest to the airflow driving those in and in fact, those showers in and in fact, across western scotland, some longer spells of rain expected through the evening. the showers
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will continue into the will continue to feed into the north of england, north and west of england, wales, northern ireland as well. and brisk breeze, and with that brisk breeze, it's not to too be chilly not going to too be chilly overnight. but where we get some shelter from the winds towards the more the south—east and more especially scotland , especially northeast scotland, it'll be touch of frost in it'll be a touch of frost in places tuesday, places as we begin tuesday, a chilly start and some mist and fog as well for parts of aberdeenshire, for example. first that'll clear by 9 first thing that'll clear by 9 or 10 am. and then brighter skies for many with some sunny spells for showers from the word go in the west . but they will go in the west. but they will tend to ease in the west later, whilst the odd one could pop up towards and eastern towards central and eastern parts and temperatures will reach numbers to monday. reach similar numbers to monday. so 12 13in the south, 10 or 11 further north. we start wednesday with a chill in the air in the east, but cloudy , air in the east, but cloudy, breezy and wet weather towards the west that will push through followed by brighter skies into the afternoon, but also more frequent showers once again, especially for scotland and northern ireland. and we keep the sunshine and showers theme going through thursday and
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us >> good evening with gb news the top story this hour, the home secretary has said that decent british people have had enough of thuggish intimidation and extremism displays . that comes extremism displays. that comes after the met police asked protest organisers to urgently reconsider plans for demonstrations in london during remembrance commemorations this weekend . and senior police weekend. and senior police officers say they're concerned by the danger posed by breakaway groups who they think are intent on fuelling disorder. the met held talks with organisers today , but request to postpone the protests were declined. meanwhile, united nations chief antonio guterres says gaza is becoming a graveyard for children . he said the protection children. he said the protection of civilians must be paramount in the conflict between israel and hamas. he said israel's
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ground operations are hitting civilians, hospitals and un facilities. he also said hamas is using civilians as human shields and continues to launch rockets towards israel . here at rockets towards israel. here at home, laws designed to provide a minimum level of cover during strikes have been extended now to ambulance staff, rail workers and border force employees. train staff will be asked to operate 40% of their normal timetable , while border security timetable, while border security staff will have to keep all airports open during strikes. the minimum service level act passed earlier this year, but has faced criticism from trade unions who say it threatens their right to strike. now, in their right to strike. now, in the united states, donald trump has been facing a civil fraud trial that threatens his property empire. the former us president is accused of inflating the value of his properties by over £1.65 billion to secure favourable terms.
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