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all incredibly serious. they're all incredibly serious. but that's to say there is sexual context or indeed sadism that that individual should expect to spend the rest of their life behind bars. now, that's important for public protection so that they're not out in the public and commit that offence but also we that offence again, but also we think the that meets the think that the that meets the justice we want justice of the case. so we want to , as i as i've to ensure, as i as i've indicated, for those most serious offenders, his life means life and also rape means life and also for rape offenders that should offenders that they should expect the entirety of expect to spend the entirety of that custody . that sentence in custody. >> israel says it's open to a pause in gaza, fighting to allow for humanity. korean aid. benjamin netanyahu says israel would consider tactical pauses to let aid in and allow for the exit of hostages. but the israeli leader reiterates his country's rejection of a ceasefire without the release of all people being held captive in the hamas ruled palestinian enclave . a breakthrough drug is enclave. a breakthrough drug is being offered to thousands of women in england to reduce their risk of developing breast cancer
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. the nhs says around 300,000 postmenopausal women in england who are at moderate or high risk will be offered. the drug anastrozole . trials have shown anastrozole. trials have shown the drug reduces breast cancer cases by 49% over 11 years. among eligible women . and you among eligible women. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website, gb news.com. now it's back to andrew and . bev andrew and. bev >> good morning. >> good morning. >> morning. yes, it's 930, tuesday, the 7th of november. this is britain's newsroom when gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. >> so the king's speech is happening today. the king is going to outline the government's plans in a speech to parliament this morning. around to be around 20 bills are set to be introduced. are around introduced. many are around crime and justice reforms. the justice secretary, alex chalk, spoke to gb news this morning . spoke to gb news this morning. >> we want to ensure that public protection theme which protection in is a theme which runs through these these measures. but those most serious
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offenders life means life and criminals to face justice. >> criminals like the baby killer, nurse lucy letby will be forced to appear in the dock for their sentencing and shrewsbury poppy their sentencing and shrewsbury poppy day shropshire council is supporting a one day poppy appeal fundraiser organised by the royal british legion today. >> our west midlands reporter jack carson is there . yes jack carson is there. yes >> so veterans and over 120 military personnel are all here in shrewsbury town centre raising those vital funds for the poppy appeal as we head ever closer to armistice day . closer to armistice day. >> so a lot to get through this morning. i was surprised by how much common sense is in the king's speech. let me tell you. so you don't want to miss that. it is expected that the criminal justice bill will be part of the king's speech this morning. it would introduce tougher sentences gang sentences for grooming gang
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members who murder members and those who murder their the end of a relationship. >> it's also to mean for >> it's also going to mean for the first time, we rent the first time, we can rent space in foreign foreign prisons because own prisons because our own prisons are overflow and the but the big overflow ing and the but the big key is that we're about. >> lucy letby that's right . >> lucy letby that's right. ministers announced the plans earlier after high earlier this year after high profile cases of offenders refused to appear for sentencing, as baby sentencing, such as the baby killer. lucy letby. >> so the government says the bill would make it clear in law reasonable force will be used to make criminals appear in the dockif make criminals appear in the dock if refuse. dock if they refuse. >> right. now we had >> that's right. now we had a big debate about this. if you remember letby remember when the lucy letby case came about, because, of course, refused to in course, she refused to stand in the dock and face all of the dock and to face all of those families whose lives she had run , ruined beyond all had run, ruined beyond all comprehension . and you have comprehension. and you have a very strong position on this. >> i think they have to do it. and i think there was a way they could do it. the judge could have said if she's refusing to do it, her parents are buying a house nearer to the prison where she won't be visiting them. >> well, look, no, >> yeah, well, look, no, no
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visits a year. visits for a year. >> have been in the dock >> she'd have been in the dock like a shot. >> well, they've agreed now that like a shot. >> �*can , they've agreed now that like a shot. >> �*can thaty've agreed now that like a shot. >> �*can that the agreed now that like a shot. >> �*can that the policei now that like a shot. >> �*can that the police andv that like a shot. >> �*can that the police and theit you can that the police and the pfison you can that the police and the prison effectively can prison officers effectively can use force to get the use reasonable force to get the criminal, guilty to party criminal, the guilty to party stand court. i still stand in the court. i still think be think that could be very complicated. think could complicated. i think it could cause a huge amount of disruption and distraction at the sentencing. and you can't guarantee person guarantee for what that person might stood might say when they're stood there. they don't want to be there. they don't want to be there. at the victims, the families. >> the other thing could >> the other thing they could do is to have is force the prisoner to have beamed their below the beamed into their cell below the court. the victim giving their victim assessment of how this has impacted on their life and the judge's verdict and. all right . they could their right. they could put their hands their ears, but you hands in their ears, but you could could into the could that could be fed into the police cell compulsorily . police cell compulsorily. >> yeah, well, i think i think it's still going to it feels a little bit gimmicky to me. and i understand the families and particularly family particularly the family of olivia of course , olivia pratt—korbel. of course, it was her parents who've campaigned this and campaigned for this and i understand having the understand that having the perpetrator in the court perpetrator there in the court would some sort of closure would offer some sort of closure and some sort of sense of justice. but but i still think
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the practicalities are quite difficult to see through. >> let's talk to david davis, former cabinet minister former brexit former shadow former cabinet minister former brexit secretary former shadow former cabinet minister former brexit secretary david,�* shadow former cabinet minister former brexit secretary david, beforew former cabinet minister former brexit secretary david, before we home secretary david, before we ask specifically about that, ask you specifically about that, what about this queen's king's speech? 20 bills. i do that, too. we're to going 70 years of queen's speech. exactly this is the first king's speech since 1950. it's extraordinary, isn't it? but how many of these it's just showcasing how much of this is going to become law? >> oh, pretty much all of it. will it? yeah because look, i mean, we the best bet is that we're not going have we're not going to have the election before of next election before october of next yean election before october of next year. not going to to year. we're not going to rush to it until got a better a better shot than we have now. and turkeys don't vote for christmas. gives you full christmas. that gives you a full yean christmas. that gives you a full year, you full year and year, gives you a full year and a year. i the king's a full year. i mean, the king's speechis a full year. i mean, the king's speech is generally about what's going happen in next going to happen in the next yean going to happen in the next yeah it going to happen in the next year. it gives you a full year. so it gives you a full yean year. so it gives you a full year. pretty much all year. so i think pretty much all of will get into in to law. of it will get into in to law. and i agree that that it's common sense stuff. most of it. i mean, i arguments about with
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some of it but it's common sense what what about the lucy letby thing because that's what triggered final outrage, triggered the final outrage, wasn't was wasn't it? well, the word was closure. know what is this closure. you know what is this about? this is about giving closure to the victims or the parents of the victims or relatives of the victims of these terrible crimes. and so what this is doing is giving the judge one more power. right. and the power to bring and the judge will make a will make a decision , you know, are these people going to scream in the court? are they you know, what's the thing that's going to give most closure? know, frankly, closure? and, you know, frankly, being dragged to the court? well, so be it. yes what i think i mean, know, i mean, when i mean, you know, i mean, when you were arrested and you don't necessarily want to go along. no the yeah. the police take you. yeah. you know, same can true there. >> and would it be acceptable to 939 >> and would it be acceptable to gag them if necessary? >> no, i don't i don't think you'd do that. i mean, but but, you'd do that. i mean, but but, you the judge will have to you know, the judge will have to make judgement. of course, make that judgement. of course, they can they start screaming. they can get yeah you get taken down again. yeah you know, need be. and so, so
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know, if need be. and so, so they're being put through what would frankly humiliating would frankly be a humiliating ritual. at ritual. yeah but would but at least the friends least the parents, the friends whose husbands, wives, whatever will that they're there will feel that they're there cause is being taken seriously by the other. >> the detail of this as well, david, is that if offenders still refuse, they could get a further two years on their pfison further two years on their prison sentence. but that won't be relevant to some people, will it be lucy letby. it wouldn't be lucy letby. >> whole life >> he's got a whole life sentence for years after sentence for two years after you're dead. >> yes, exactly. i don't think so. yeah, well, of course it gives you leverage for most cases. are not life. cases. most cases are not life. whole sentences, you know? whole life sentences, you know? i mean, which. of course, i mean, which. which of course, is other part of bill. is the other part of this bill. it's life sentence. it's the whole life sentence. i mean, the actually being mean, mean, the actually being i mean, things me mad for my things driven me mad for my entire adult life is people being given x years and then let out after half of. yeah. and they say three life sentences and they're out. >> in years or >> they're out in 15 years or ten years. >> they're out in 15 years or ten i'ears. >> they're out in 15 years or teni know, i know. >> i know, i know. >> i know, i know. >> so it makes a mockery of it. >> so it makes a mockery of it. >> and we changed it a bit when we first came back in the we first came in, back in the 20105, we first came in, back in the 2010s, we changed it a bit for the serious cases, made it
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the most serious cases, made it two thirds rape in particular. yeah which a in the yeah which was a step in the right think now right direction. i think now they're right to have a whole life sentence or a full and to serve full sentence in serve the full sentence in serious cases. what this, david? >> bill will also give >> so the bill will also give police search a police powers to search a property without court warrant property without a court warrant if reliable proof if they've got reliable proof that stolen stolen is in that a stolen stolen item is in sight. and this is partly in response fact that you response to the fact that you can mobile phones. so can track mobile phones. so i could mobile phone could have my mobile phone stolen. say to the stolen. i could say to the police, my phone is telling police, find my phone is telling me it's in that house and now the police can don't need a warrant to go and get that. >> this a truly terrible >> this is a truly terrible idea. mean, look, the right idea. i mean, look, the right not have your house invade not to have your house invade aided by the state, which is what the police are , is as what the police are, is as fundamental a part of our liberties as as jury trials, as presumption of innocence and so on. and what this is, is saying is you're going to let the metropolitan police, who have got such a good reputation in the last year is that make the last year there is that make this decision. the whole this decision. now, the whole point you go to point about this is you go to a magistrate or a judge and you
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can do it in the middle of the night. if you're a copper, you know, you've got the duty magistrate. you call him up and say, we got evidence say, look, we have got evidence on mobile phone that on on the mobile phone that the phone there. that's enough phone is in there. that's enough evidence persuade so evidence to persuade him. so you know, you still go through the process. it's well, why do they why seeking this power why are they seeking this power then? know. i mean, then? i don't know. i mean, look, i mean, police are look, i mean, the police are forever asking, asking for forever for asking, asking for extra don't extra powers. mostly they don't need the laws need them. you know, the laws are there. they're just not are all there. they're just not using properly. and they using them properly. and they keep this. the using them properly. and they keep office this. the using them properly. and they keep office gives s. the using them properly. and they keep office gives in? the using them properly. and they keep office gives in? i'm:he using them properly. and they keep office gives in? i'm afraid home office gives in? i'm afraid so. so. you know, i think so. so. and, you know, i think this is a queens. sorry. here we go. kings speech, which is pretty much free of gimmicks. but i make an exception for this, i think. >> what about this one then? the fact that it will give ministers a power to stop the parole for the give the worst offenders. give minister that minister drs the power. is that just more power into the hands of state? of the state? >> i think that i there >> i think that i mean, there have been cases where paroles have been cases where paroles have been cases where paroles have been given gratuitously . have been given gratuitously. >> they were going to give one have been given gratuitously. >>johny were going to give one have been given gratuitously. >>john warboys,ing to give one have been given gratuitously. >>john warboys,ing �*taxive one have been given gratuitously. >>john warboys,ing �*taxi black to john warboys, the taxi black cab in that context. cab rapist in that context. >> what this is, is ministers
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are really acting as a reflection public opinion. reflection of public opinion. >> yes. yeah. >> yes. yeah. >> that's what's >> and so that's what's happening here. i mean, i think i they used it i think if they used it gratuitously so they'd end up the ministers end up in the ministers would end up in court. so i think that's reasonable. mean , what about reasonable. i mean, what about serious criminals would be prevented from marrying in pfison? >> that's also in line with pubuc >> that's also in line with public opinion, isn't it? >> yeah, i think it is. and look, i mean, prison is not a houday look, i mean, prison is not a holiday camp or it shouldn't be. yeah. and. all right. you want to rehabilitate if you can, but the truth is , for a lot of the truth is, for a lot of prisoners, there's no rehabilitation . they're not rehabilitation. they're not interested in rehabilitation . interested in rehabilitation. and it's part of it is part of the punishment, you know, you know, starting a married life in prison, as far as i'm concerned, is not part of the liberty you are kept. you know, you're maintained. >> and are they allowed when they in prison? i they get married in prison? i don't know. you may know this, david. they are they allowed don't know. you may know this, daconsummate are they allowed don't know. you may know this, daconsummate are tmarriage?>d to consummate the marriage? >> are sort of >> i think there are sort of what you might call conjugal rights. my god. rights. oh my god. >> that right?
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>> is that right? >> is that right? >> is that right? >> i so. >> i think so. >> i think so. >> but that's not in here. >> but that's not in here. >> just to be clear. funny that expertise. >> no, i just. >> no, i just. >> i just. >> i just. >> i just wonder about that. >> i just wonder about that. >> it's not something i've tested out, but we've also got royal richard royal commentator richard fitzwilliams is with us. >> sorry we weren't >> richard, i'm sorry we weren't sat ignoring just sat there ignoring you. i just wanted into the detail of wanted to get into the detail of what is going to mean for what this is going to mean for people. what does today mean for king charles? as we've heard, people tripping over people are still tripping over calling queen's calling it the queen's speech. >> exactly, because the >> well, exactly, because the queen 67 queen opened parliament 67 times. in 1959 and times. it was only in 1959 and 1953 when she was pregnant with the prince edward and the carrying prince edward and also prince andrew, and subsequently of course, as we know, last year, king charles, when prince of wales and the duke of cambridge and now prince of wales have stood in as counsellors of state and king charles read the speech then. but this is a particularly significant moment. it's also, i think, very, very touching because in 1952 to when the
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queen opened parliament, what we saw was a tribute to her father, george the sixth. and she praised his selfless service and also in dictated that she would do her best, her utmost to endeavour to follow in his footsteps in that regard . so footsteps in that regard. so i think we're going to get a very touchy tribute to the queen and also the fact that one still sometimes would consider it. the queen's speech . i mean, it was queen's speech. i mean, it was a most extraordinary. it was what might call an absolutely epic innings. and i was particularly fascinated when the queen was talking about how you read the speech because she gave an interview with reference to how you actually held it. she said that you mustn't look down, that you had to bring the speech up because if you did look down and she said, your neck would break and it fall off because of the weight of the crown on the head of the imperial £5 in weight. >> isn't it like a small baby?
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>> isn't it like a small baby? >> oh, it's extraordinary. i'm the only time, apart from the coronation and of course, it's worn is at the opening of parliament. but it's interesting. i didn't know that it had this. this of built it had this. this sort of built in hazard . in hazard. >> tell you what, i'm going to >> i tell you what, i'm going to be watching. the king's be watching. king the king's body very closely is body language very closely is when has read about the when he has to read about the oil and gas licence bill, because as we know, he is a confirmed environmentalist. he was talking about these issues. many years before it was fashionable to do so . fashionable to do so. >> may 1970 was the first speech on the pollution. so in fact, thatis on the pollution. so in fact, that is over 50 years of totally consistent . there's no doubt. we consistent. there's no doubt. we know very well he will he will hide how feels about hide how he really feels about rishi will the likes of us rishi sunak will the likes of us are going to be looking and be absolutely fascinating to see his expression, to see, in fact . his expression, to see, in fact. >> david yeah, yeah. >> david yeah, yeah. >> do you think over the course of the last 70 years, the queen always approved george and i don't suppose she approved of all those prime ministers either. >> i think of 1 or 2, yes. >> i think of 1 or 2, yes. >> positively didn't approve.
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>> positively didn't approve. >> absolutely. this is such a contentious issue. >> this is the issue of our age. arguably. you could you could say . say. >> but then we must surely have the opportunity to argue about about it, how public money is spent. can, in fact, boilers be replaced in particular times house insulation? what about electric cars? we should surely be arguing these points. so king charles will obviously have views that we can guess what they might be about. the north sea exploration and so forth. >> but david, this is a deliberate attempt to drive a wedge between labour because you don't need to have this in legislation, do you? >> it's a bit more than that. i mean, i'm sure it is that i'm sure that tactic plays, but i wholeheartedly approve of rishi's re setting of this. i'll tell you why . i just rishi's re setting of this. i'll tell you why. i just imagine if he hadn't done it and you know we had just ploughed on as we are what we're talking about now is not stopping the green agenda. we're talking about making it affordable. yeah and if hadn't done that , if we hadn't have done that, people would. as we saw with the
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ulez london, in that ulez vote in london, in that by—election people start by—election people will start getting sick of this. you know, i've got to pay £100 here, £1,000 there. i've got to get a new car. i've got to get a new boiler. if you want people to stay with green agenda, stay with the green agenda, you've to make it work for you've got to make it work for them. and that's what he's doing. this and doing. know and on this oil and gas stuff, know, it doesn't gas stuff, you know, it doesn't make the planet any more safe for us to buy our oil and gas from russia. you know . so that's from russia. you know. so that's what it's about. >> and talking of cars, the autonomy vehicles, bill will also be announced today. and this could make driverless cars a reality on britain's roads by 2030. david, are we ready for that? that's around the corner . that? that's around the corner. >> yeah. well, bear in mind, i mean , tesla's been trying to mean, tesla's been trying to make his cars driverless for some time, and we had a fatal accident with yeah, but accident with one. yeah, but the. but it's right there. the. but but it's right there. it's right there. i mean, look, you a car now, i've been you get a new car now, i've been thinking about getting car thinking about getting a new car for years. i'm very
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for about five years. i'm very slow on these decisions. and. and happened five and what's happened in five years number of safety years is the number of safety measures that are in the car now. you know, i mean, this doddery old davis won't even be able to have an accident if he wanted to because, you know, it detects cyclists, it detects pedestrians, car pedestrians, it detects the car in . you know, it keeps you in front. you know, it keeps you in front. you know, it keeps you in the all these things are components of an artificial intelligence drive in your car. so i mean, i wholeheartedly approve. i think i think an ai would be a lot safer driver than a lot of people i know. >> can we get on with driverless trains, please, so we can stop the rmt holding us to ransom? >> well, i think i think you might get that a long way off. no, think that's i think a lot no, i think that's i think a lot of that's quite soon. i mean, you know, we there's been a debate in the last couple of weeks ai taking and weeks about al taking jobs. and we're about we're thinking about sophisticated jobs. actually, it'll lot the it'll be a lot of the comparatively straightfonnard jobs. i wouldn't say they're either skilfully either unimportant or skilfully they're they they're not at all. but they will easier for an ai they're not at all. but they will easier for an al to will be easier for an al to handle. mean and it may handle. yeah. i mean and it may be i don't know i'm now i'm
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speculating thing but may be speculating thing but it may be that having machine controlled trains example will allow trains for example will allow them to be closer together. and so on the on the rail. so get more on the on the rail. >> david i i've been dying to talk to you as a confirmed libertarian, as someone who believes in civil liberties . how believes in civil liberties. how do we get around the challenge this weekend having peaceful this weekend of having peaceful protests on the streets of our western democracy whilst also respecting needs of an respecting the needs of an armistice weekend? well armistice weekend? right. well you not in favour of you know, i'm not in favour of banning it. >> i agree with the police. the police have said rather politely to organisers, please don't to the organisers, please don't do know, and do it. this, you know, and that's right approach. but that's the right approach. but i'm afraid free speech is the freedom doesn't freedom to offend. that doesn't mean if mean anything. othennise. if i may on here and be bland, may come on here and be bland, you wouldn't be here quite rightly so what can they do? rightly so. so what can they do? well, to start it in well, they want to start it in hyde that's hyde park. that's fine. that's nowhere near cenotaph. nowhere near the cenotaph. right? that's fine. they want to go american embassy. go to the american embassy. that's also nowhere that's fine. that's also nowhere near you just say that's fine. that's also nowhere nethem. you just say that's fine. that's also nowhere nethem. yeah, you just say that's fine. that's also nowhere nethem. yeah, and you just say that's fine. that's also nowhere nethem. yeah, and you're st say that's fine. that's also nowhere nethem. yeah, and you're going to them. yeah, and you're going over chelsea bridge. you're not going near whitehall. going anywhere near whitehall. yeah will be designed yeah the route will be designed to they ring or
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disrupting. >> and if they try and go >> and what if they try and go towards whitehall? the police have to stop them. >> they rights to >> yeah, they have rights to stop. forget sometimes, you stop. we forget sometimes, you know for since the 1930, know that for since the 1930, the police have been able to separate counter demonstrators. in 30s, you had the black in the 30s, you had the black shirts communists in the 30s, you had the black sh the communists in the 30s, you had the black sh the streets communists in the 30s, you had the black sh the streets of communists in the 30s, you had the black sh the streets of eastnmunists in the 30s, you had the black sh the streets of east london. 5 in the streets of east london. you've always had right to you've always had the right to separate right? separate demonstrators. right? and exist already. and those powers exist already. and those powers exist already. and we've had public order acts and so on since which which make it more explicit. i just it more explicit. so i just think, if you insist. think, all right, if you insist. i mean, i happen to think, by the way, you know, for the way, you know, i feel for the way, you know, i feel for the palestinians. very the palestinians. i'm very pro—israeli, but i feel for the palestinians suffering here. and pro—israeli, but i feel for the pcan tinians suffering here. and pro—israeli, but i feel for the pcan understandering here. and pro—israeli, but i feel for the pcan understand why here. and pro—israeli, but i feel for the pcan understand why here. aget i can understand why people get upset but do these upset about it. but do these organisers this is helping organisers think this is helping their case? >> no , really, i quite agree. >> let me ask richard. obviously we've got the armistice day weekend and huge for the royal family how concerned do you think they would be about the security this weekend with these protests ? protests? >> yes, think that they would >> yes, i think that they would appreciate the fact that every single measure that is reasonable bill would be taken.
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i mean , there's no doubt at all, i mean, there's no doubt at all, of course, security will be absolutely massive. and of course, it should be, especially on a weekend that's coming up like this. yeah >> okay. thank you both, gentlemen . gentlemen. >> very good to talk to you. always good to see you, david. and always good to see you, richard. >> thank you, richard. shropshire supporting shropshire council is supporting a appeal a one day poppy appeal fundraiser by the fundraiser organised by the royal legion. royal british legion. >> be a one day >> it will be a one day collection across the town with 120 from 120 military personnel from raf cosford, the rifles. >> so let's go to jack carson in shrewsbury or shrewsbury, shrewsbury, thank shrewsbury, shrewsbury. thank you. that's why you. david davis that's why you're here. so correct . my you're here. so correct. my stupidity. right. morning jack. what's going on there ? you yeah. what's going on there? you yeah. >> good morning to you both. well we're here. well, i would say shrewsbury town centre, but there we go. but as you can probably see, milling all around me, military me, there are military personnel, 120, as you mentioned. we've also got veterans well, all veterans here as well, all raising those funds for raising those vital funds for the poppy appeal. of course, we've got armoured cars. you can see me as well. it's not
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see behind me as well. it's not just about raising that money. it's about education and it's also about education and educating about educating people all about the poppy educating people all about the poppy course, the poppy appeal. and of course, the importance armistice day. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat,1ce armistice day. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat, we armistice day. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat, we are.rmistice day. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat, we are joinede day. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat, we are joined byiay. and poppy appeal. and of course, the imjthat, we are joined by clivend on that, we are joined by clive jones. you're a you're a jones. clive, you're a you're a veteran. tell a little veteran. just tell us a little bit about your service. >> well, i was a former army , >> well, i was a former army, welsh guards. i joined in 1991 and i left in 2003 after after i was blinded and an unprovoked attack . attack. >> and kind of tell us then , you >> and kind of tell us then, you know, leaving the army what's that like having to go from from that like having to go from from that active service, from that routine , from that, from that routine, from that, from that discipline ? what's that like discipline? what's that like leaving the army then and leaving the army and then and then going into going into back into civilian life initially it was difficult. >> but as i say, with help from the likes of the british legion and other, military and other, you know, military organisations, help there organisations, the help is there to actually get you back into civilian life. it was hard initially because obviously you leave a the organ discipline place that you work and then obviously you come to a civilian. so the civilian workplace and the discipline
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isn't there, but you eventually get into it. so it's taken its time. but it was we got there. >> and how is the british legion helped you? >> oh, they've helped me in immensely. i mean, initially when i was first blinded, they were there for me. since then, when things got bad me, when things got bad for me, they've there to help me, they've been there to help me, especially the especially with the likes of the battle back which is a battle back program, which is a centre in wiltshire in shropshire know , shropshire for, you know, wounded, injured and sick personnel that just help them on the on their road to recovery through adaptive sport. and then they continued to be here for me and my family when i need them. >> yeah. and just tell us we're coming up to armistice day. you're here today helping the poppy you're here today helping the poppy raise those vital poppy appeal, raise those vital funds. i mean, you've experienced those go experienced where those funds go to. so important at to. why is it so important at this year? people can this time of year? people can give what they can? >> well, it's very important. i mean, obviously, money that >> well, it's very important. i me raise jviously, money that >> well, it's very important. i me raise)vi0|only money that >> well, it's very important. i me raise)vi0|only today, iney that >> well, it's very important. i me raise)vi0|only today, but that we raise not only today, but obviously , you with other obviously, you know, with other times as well. i mean , the money times as well. i mean, the money that goes to the royal british legion help injured members of
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the services or their families, you know, and not only in, you know, financial areas, but obviously with holidays and the well being as well. so it's very important that you if you can give and afford to give, then please do, because it does go to a very, very good place. >> and coming up to armistice day with minute day with that two minute silence, you going to silence, what are you going to be remembering? >> honesty, i remember, >> in all honesty, i remember, you know, my friends and comrades and especially my great uncle who's sadly no longer with us, but but i think of them most days anyway . so again, it will days anyway. so again, it will be just a moment of reflection. very poignant moment for me. >> clive, thank you so much for joining us this morning. well, of course, there are the thoughts of clive, who's of one of the veterans here, and of course, those military course, all those military personnel raising personnel as well here, raising those vital funds for the british legion. those vital funds for the briithankjion. those vital funds for the briithank you, jack. you've been >> thank you, jack. you've been getting at home and getting in touch at home and alan has said you keep talking about but you about the king's speech, but you haven't what time the haven't said what time the speech thank you so much, speech is. thank you so much, alan. you're right. i quite alan. you're so right. i quite like when produce the
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like it when people produce the show from afar. 1130 this morning. it certainly is. and we'll there for it. course morning. it certainly is. and we'will. there for it. course morning. it certainly is. and we'will. were for it. course morning. it certainly is. and we'will. we willwr it. course morning. it certainly is. and we'will. we will keep course morning. it certainly is. and we'will. we will keep yourjrse we will. we will keep your emails coming in views at emails coming in gb views at gbnews.com the email address gbnews.com is the email address we have got a lot to talk about this morning. is huge this morning. there is a huge amount in king's speech and amount in this king's speech and we're explaining a we're going to be explaining a lot of the detail with it with lots analysis. lots more expert analysis. there's there that i there's a lot in there that i agree with and you with. agree with and you agree with. >> and david davis agreed >> yeah. and david davis agreed with, too. >> i was surprised how much common sense there was in there. >> be the last >> and it will be the last king's speech before the election. it's important. election. so it's important. this newsroom on gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you. mcgivern here you. it's aidan mcgivern here from office with gb from the met office with the gb news it's a chilly news forecast. it's a chilly start out there some us, start out there for some of us, but skies, too , follow but bright skies, too, follow for of the morning into for much of the morning and into the afternoon, albeit with a fair number of showers still around today. the around through today. the coldest weather north—east scotland, a few mist and fog patches to clear through the morning. they will clear and then it's another day of sunny spells and showers. the showers will be frequent and quite heavy in first thing they'll in the west. first thing they'll
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tend ease into the afternoon tend to ease into the afternoon whilst the odd one will pop up further at this stage, further east. at this stage, quite breeze continuing as quite a breeze continuing as well. to going make it well. that's to going make it feel on cool side. but feel on the cool side. but temperatures stray far temperatures won't stray far from average for time of from the average for the time of year 12 13in the south. 10 or year 12 or 13in the south. 10 or 11 further north. the showers do tend away the tend to fade away into the evening, although or 2 will evening, although 1 or 2 will continue the west. clear continue in the west. clear skies then becoming prevalent, especially for eastern parts dunng especially for eastern parts during early hours. and as during the early hours. and as a result, temperatures will fall away with once again a touch of frost especially for frost possible, especially for north—east but it's north—east scotland. but it's going turn milder through the going to turn milder through the night west with the wind night in the west with the wind picking and outbreaks rain picking up and outbreaks of rain arriving and it is arriving by dawn and it is a damp start day away from damp start to the day away from northern ireland where we see the move through before the rain move through before before sun elsewhere , before the sun rises elsewhere, it's outbreaks of rain continuing through the morning and the afternoon. brief and into the afternoon. brief spell of gusty winds and heavy rain as it all clears eastwards. and then brighter skies follow for the afternoon . but further for the afternoon. but further frequent affecting frequent showers affecting northern ireland and scotland . northern ireland and scotland. some of these will turn to snow over the mountains as we are
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talking about the king's speech this morning, we're looking at the detail here. >> andrew and i, we're on the edge of our seats. we're quite excited about this, aren't we? >> it looks from what we know, a good tweet and it is the first king's speech. course, for 70 king's speech. of course, for 70 years. right. and there years. that's right. and there is an awful of law and is an awful lot of law and order. but ask this order. but i do ask this question, why take so long? you have been in power for 13 years. you tories, but still they're getting their slowly. >> lease >> there's lots in it. lease hold reform autonomous vehicles, oil and gas licencing and offensive go offensive weapons. don't go anywhere. you the anywhere. we'll give you the detail on all of it. >> britain's newsroom
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it's 10:00 on tuesday, the 7th of november. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner it's the king's speech, the first for 70 years. >> it will outline the government's plans in parliament this morning . be leaving this morning. he'll be leaving buckingham palace in around one houn buckingham palace in around one hour. royal correspond hour. gb news royal correspond cameron walker all the cameron walker has all the latest at the king will be opening parliament for the first time as monarch, but will he be keeping with the traditions of queen elizabeth ii? >> to find out shortly. thank you, cameron. >> so is today the last roll of the dice for the tories as soon mps will be summoned to hear to the lords to hear the king's speech our political editor chris the latest on chris hope has the latest on it's a huge day here in westminster. >> but behind the pomp and
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circumstance, what's it's all about the election cold, hard politics rules the day and no protesters on the rampage. >> yes , it's them again. just >> yes, it's them again. just stop oil. they smashed a national gallery painting yesterday. two people have been arrested. one of their members will shortly to discuss will join us shortly to discuss their tactics . their tactics. >> there's such lunar tics, aren't they? what good does that achieve? how that destruction of something so beautiful. it makes my blood boil. let's know if it does the same to you. let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com. tell us your name . tell us where you're name. tell us where you're watching from as well. we love to where are. of to know where you are. of course. listening. don't course. yes all listening. don't text or us if you're text us or email us if you're driving your car though, but do let know where you are. let us know where you are. first, though, here is your very latest sophia . good
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latest news with sophia. good morning . morning. >> it's 10:01 o'clock. morning. >> it's10:01 o'clock. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . sophia wenzler in the newsroom. king charles will lead his first state opening of parliament as monarch today as the prime minister will set out what he calls vision of a better calls a vision of a better britain. rishi sunak will detail the sentencing bill as he's promising tougher punishments for killers, and for killers, rapists and grooming gang ringleaders. other measures expected in the king's speech include a law to mandate annual oil and gas licencing in the north sea. a key dividing line with labour justice secretary alex chalk told gb news how the government will put the criminal justice system at the criminal justice system at the of plans. we want the heart of its plans. we want to ensure that where a murder takes place and it is a particularly evil murder, they're all incredibly serious . they're all incredibly serious. >> but that's to say there is sexual context or indeed sadism that that individual should expect to spend the rest of their life behind bars. now, that's important for public protection, so that they're not out public and commit out in the public and commit that again. but also we that offence again. but also we think that the that meets the justice of case. so we want
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justice of the case. so we want to ensure, as i as i've indicated, for those most serious means serious offenders, life means life. for rape life. and also for rape offenders that they should expect to the entirety of expect to spend the entirety of that custody . that sentence in custody. >> labour's pat >> meanwhile, labour's pat mcfadden isn't impressed with the government's plans. the shadow chancellor of the duchy told gb news the tories are not the party for change. >> i am frustrated by is that it seems so empty and the country's challenges are so big and at the conservative party conference a few weeks ago, the prime minister said it's time for a change and the answer to that call for change is five more years of the people who messed it up in the first place. now i half agree with the prime minister. it is time for a change. there is real change on offer, but you're not going to get it from the conservative party. you're only going to get it from the labour party. >> israel says it's open to a pause in gaza, fighting to allow for humanitarian aid . benjamin for humanitarian aid. benjamin netanyahu says israel would consider tactical little pauses
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to let aid in and allow for the exit of hostages. but the israeli leader reiterated his country's rejection of a ceasefire without the release of all people being held captive in the hamas ruled palestinian enclave. it comes as united nafions enclave. it comes as united nations chief says gaza is becoming a graveyard for children. g7 foreign ministers are meeting in japan today to discuss coming together in the face of the gaza crisis . grocery face of the gaza crisis. grocery price inflation has fallen to single digits for the first time in 16 months. kantar says it's the eighth consecutive decline in the rate of price rises since the figure peaked in march. however consumers are only seeing year on year price falls in a limited number of categories , including butter categories, including butter dried pasta and milk. spending on promotions has now hit 27.2% of total grocery sales as shoppers continue to try to cut their bills . captain sir tom their bills. captain sir tom moore's daughter has lost an appeal against the demolition of an unauthorised spa at her home.
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hannah ingram—moore and her husband had appealed against the demolition order by central bedfordshire council. they used the captain tom foundation name on the first proposal with revised plans, then turned down the organisation, which was founded in june 2020, in honour of sir tom is currently being investigated by the charity commission uk. house prices investigated by the charity commission uk . house prices rose commission uk. house prices rose for the first time in six months in october , marking the first in october, marking the first monthly increase since march . monthly increase since march. according to halifax, the average house price jumped by around £3,000 month on month. the mortgage lender says prices rose by 1.1% on average, compared to the fall of 0.3% in september. the typical uk home was valued at almost £282,000. in october , up by £3,000 on the in october, up by £3,000 on the previous month with amazon , previous month with amazon, workers are launching a series of strikes today in a long running dispute over pay. members of the gmb union at the onune members of the gmb union at the online giant's coventry site will walk out for three days and
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again on black friday at the end of the month. the union announced around 1000 workers will be on strike after criticising a pay offer it said was worth £1 an hour. criticising a pay offer it said was worth £1 an hour . and a was worth £1 an hour. and a breakthrough drug is being offered to thousands of women in england to reduce their risk of developing breast cancer . the developing breast cancer. the nhs says around 3000 300,000 postmenopausal women in england who are at moderate or high risk will be offered. the drug anastrozole . trials have shown anastrozole. trials have shown the drug reduces breast cancer cases by 49% over 11 years. among eligible women , petrol among eligible women, petrol theft has risen sharply in britain and it could be down to systematic criminal activity data from the rac found there were almost 40,000 incidents between july and september this yean between july and september this year. it's estimated these incidents are costing station ons an average of 10,500 pounds each year. most of the incidents are likely to relate to drive offs when someone fills up the vehicle without paying and then leaves . this is gb news across
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leaves. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to andrew and . bev >> very good morning. it's 1006. >> very good morning. it's1006. now remember, we are here in anticipation of the king's speech today . now, you might be speech today. now, you might be thinking, why would i care what the king has to say? i'm not a royalist. it's not about that. it's about all of our lives and everything in this is very interesting. it's all about crime and punishment. the stuff about restrictions . there about tech restrictions. there is a bill about driverless cars which could lead also to driverless buses . are you ready driverless buses. are you ready for that? >> and convicted rapists will have to spend their entire sentence in prison rather than be eligible for parole halfway through two thirds through or even two thirds through, which really important. >> i think it's sort of remarkable that it doesn't happen already. >> i'm afraid. and it's >> it is, i'm afraid. and it's also going to but this will irritate people. will irritate some people. it will scrap sentences of less
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scrap jail sentences of less than a because because than a year because because pnsons than a year because because prisons overcrowded . that's prisons are overcrowded. that's a problem, isn't it? isn't it? if you're tough on law and order, which is this bill, order, which is what this bill, the speech, is about, you the king's speech, is about, you need some prisons. so they're going prison space going to rent prison space abroad. people have abroad. now, some people have been about that saying been emailing about that saying that's should been emailing about that saying that's another should been emailing about that saying that's another prison should been emailing about that saying that's another prison here, ld build another prison here, creates keeps money the economy. >> jake got in touch from home and money available and said any money available should to build more should be used to build more pnsons should be used to build more prisons here, not abroad. just what you were saying, andrew, would be contributing to our own economy, providing employment as well as improving the existing conditions. enters conditions. anyone who enters the illegally can also the country illegally can also be detained there until processed. there ever comes processed. if there ever comes a time there were too many time when there were too many empty cells, buildings could empty cells, the buildings could be but i would be repurposed. but i would hazard a guess time will hazard a guess that time will never come. i think you're never come. no, i think you're absolutely i don't absolutely right, jake. i don't think would come. absolutely right, jake. i don't thiri. would come. absolutely right, jake. i don't thiri. don't would come. absolutely right, jake. i don't thiri. don't knowi come. absolutely right, jake. i don't thiri. don't know whyle. absolutely right, jake. i don't thir i. don't know why we've >> i also don't know why we've got about or 8000 foreign got about 7 or 8000 foreign foreign nationals in our prisons. >> kick them out, steve says it might touching, but its might be touching, but its content futile. it's content will be futile. it's just the old broken pledges just the same old broken pledges and well, it's an and policies. well well, it's an important part. >> it is. it is the government's
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launch pad. david davis said in his estimation, and he's often a critic of his own government. he said he thinks most of this stuff will become law. well, one reason why why has it taken so long leasehold is an interesting issue that's going to be in the king's speech today. >> so this will introduce michael gove's watered down plans effectively. he wanted to scrap this kind of what was described system of described as a feudal system of leasehold altogether . we're leasehold altogether. we're following reports that fee freeholders were charging exorbitant ground rents. so obviously this is if you're a home owner, this is relevant to you and in the end the bill will reform the system. it's going to cap rents for and cap ground rents for new and existing set the existing properties and set the default leases at 990 default length of leases at 990 years rather than 9 to 9 years, which means currently people are having to pay a lot of to money extend their leases. yeah exactly. >> so you can it's very expensive . expensive. >> yeah. so if you've got a house, obviously that's only got a few years left on the lease, you have to pay a fortune in order to increase it and it's
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going to band leasehold for new houses. >> it is, it is. and that is a bonanza, of course for lawyers. yes. extending your lease, all sorts, come out sorts, all sorts will come out of speech today . of this speech today. >> we're seeing some live pictures now of buckingham palace. just the palace. can i just say in the pictures earlier of cameron and also hope at also christopher hope at westminster, a beautiful westminster, what a beautiful day in today is the day it is in london today is the sun shining, the trees are orange. >> and this is pomp and pageantry at its best. and i know some people say it's britain at its worst. it's old fashioned, i think it's fashioned, but i think it's fantastic there'll thousands fantastic. there'll be thousands of lining the streets of people lining the streets to see the procession with see the king in procession with with queen camilla. and it's a rare opportunity to see the king in his crown. yeah >> you know, we talk a lot, don't we, about our traditions being eroded in this country. and sometimes it's hard know and sometimes it's hard to know what it is to be british and our identity on a day like today. i love this visual representation of who and our hundreds of who we are and our hundreds of who we are and our hundreds of of tradition in. of years of tradition in. >> you know what will be >> and you know what will be happening in the commons as we speak? yeomen of guard speak? the yeomen of the guard will going through the will be going through the cellars make sure are cellars to make sure there are no gunpowder plotters.
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>> right. no gunpowder plotters. >> another right. no gunpowder plotters. >> another greatght. no gunpowder plotters. >> another great tradition because course, fawkes because of course, guy fawkes was hundred five. some was 1000 hundred and five. some people one of the cleverest, people say one of the cleverest, one men to ever go one of the best men to ever go into parliament, but, of course, foiled. so that carries on. and into parliament, but, of course, foi the so that carries on. and into parliament, but, of course, foi the king|at carries on. and into parliament, but, of course, foi the king drivesies on. and into parliament, but, of course, foi the king drives to; on. and as the king drives to parliament, a conservative whip will hostage in will be held hostage in parliament in buckingham palace. they'll give him a gin and tonic if he one. or it could be if he wants one. or it could be a female whip. and the idea is that he's if parliament decides to capture the monarch , which to capture the monarch, which they might have done hundreds of years ago, they've got a hostage. but i years ago, they've got a hostage. buti don't years ago, they've got a hostage. but i don't think anybody care the anybody would care about the tory whip. to you. they'd say, keep him. >> do we have this bit where the dooris >> do we have this bit where the door is slammed in the face three something? >> down the face of >> the door is down the face of black who knocks on the black rod who then knocks on the door three times. and because that been knocked on that door has been knocked on three for hundreds of three times for hundreds of years, actually small years, there are actually small dents or that to dents on the door or that to look fonnard to. >> go anywhere this >> don't go anywhere this morning. we're now the morning. we're joined now by the former the former editor of the independent, chris blackhurst. good can see good morning, chris. i can see you smiling there at us, kind of picturing of it picturing because some of it
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does , doesn't does seem ridiculous, doesn't it? but i like these traditions and the fact we're and i love the fact that we're still doing these slightly ludicrous and dramatic acts . ludicrous and dramatic acts. >> yeah, i'm sort of debating in my own mind whether whether i'd pay my own mind whether whether i'd pay the ransom for the tory whip. well, quite. >> think many people >> i don't think many people would pay the ransom, chris. that's the trouble . i don't know that's the trouble. i don't know which whip it is, but. but this is this on a serious note for the conservatives, this is last chance isn't it? i was chance saloon, isn't it? i was at a reception last night with tory and they said there's tory mps and they said there's got be firecracker in got to be some firecracker in there they've got if they're there if they've got if they're going turn polls around. going to turn the polls around. what are they, 20 points behind currently? >> yeah. mean, this is the >> yeah. i mean, this is the last before the election . last one before the election. everything in here, they've got to try and get through . we sort to try and get through. we sort of know what's going to be in it. there's going to be a lot of law and order, and that's designed to put a break between the tories and labour . designed to put a break between the tories and labour. um, but yes, this is make or break for
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rishi sunak is it a bit gimmicky? >> chris some of this in here is it just appealing to the mood of the nation details such as the fact that long term prisoners are not allowed to get married in prison ? is that kind of thing in prison? is that kind of thing genuinely going to affect the majority of people in this country who just wants to be able to buy their food in the supermarket and pay their energy bills? >> well, there is this weird thing going on because the like this this i was about to say queen's speech. um this king's speech divorce from what's happening in the country. so you've got cost of living crisis. you've got inflation, you've got energy bills. none of thatis you've got energy bills. none of that is in this speech. none of it's in there at all. this is a pure election gimmick , really. pure election gimmick, really. but, you know, let's be honest, labour would be doing exactly the same thing if they were in
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power . um, you know, this is a power. um, you know, this is a way of saying, well, the party of law and order, you're not the party of law and order disagree with any of this. and it's cleverly designed. they know that there's some policies here, particularly on the law and order side. and even on the north sea. oil and gas that that labour don't agree with. and so they're trying to drive a wedge between now and the election , do between now and the election, do you think? >> i mean, chris, i remember whatjim callaghan >> i mean, chris, i remember what jim callaghan said >> i mean, chris, i remember whatjim callaghan said in 1979. sometimes people have just made their mind up. it's time for change and possibly being old enough. change and possibly being old enough . you say the nicest enough. you say the nicest things, chris. i was i was going to i was voting in my first ever general election that year. but he did say, didn't he? callaghan sometimes these people have just made their mind up. it's time for change it sort of for a change and it sort of feels like that to now. feels like that to me now. people have thought there'll be it'll years next it'll be 14 years come next yean it'll be 14 years come next year, the next election. time for a change. >> i'm this might surprise you,
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andrew. >> i'm more sceptical. i sort of think that , um , in the back of think that, um, in the back of my mind is the fact the country, the country has never embraced. keir starmer um , not, not not in keir starmer um, not, not not in the way that it did with tony blair and you know, i just wonder somehow i narrow the defeat or even pull a rabbit out of a hat. but okay, we're struggling a little bit with your audio, chris. >> so we're going to say goodbye for now, but thank you for the independent chris blackhurst. >> point. he's >> interesting point. he's making, it, that making, though, isn't it, that the country hasn't embraced keir starmer remember the starmer and i can remember the excitement blair and it excitement about blair and it was obvious that the tories was so obvious that the tories were beaten and were going to be beaten and beaten massively. don't beaten massively. we i don't sense , but do sense that sense that, but i do sense that people think, oh, they've had enough time other side enough time for the other side to given a chance and while to be given a chance and while the country hasn't embraced starmer, i don't think they've massively embraced rishi sunak
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no, haven't at all. they no, they haven't at all. they think he's nice bloke and he's think he's a nice bloke and he's efficient and he's a technocrat. but is he a great visionary leader ? leader? >> no, i don't think so. i don't know. i don't. but there's the answer. i don't know. i feel like i'm not quite sure what he stands for. well, that tells you everything, doesn't it? >> i mean, this is a i think this is the best king's speech i've seen. best queen's king's speech for years . so and so. speech for years. so and so. perhaps he is now showing us in his true colours . well, let's his true colours. well, let's talk to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who's who's outside buckingham and outside buckingham palace. and our political editor, chris hopes westminster. let's go our political editor, chris ho chris westminster. let's go our political editor, chris ho chris first. tminster. let's go our political editor, chris ho chris first. chris,er. let's go our political editor, chris ho chris first. chris, this et's go our political editor, chris ho chris first. chris, this doeso to chris first. chris, this does this is a proper tory king speech, isn't it . speech, isn't it. >> that's right. you've got criminal justice at the heart of it, andrew. and you are right there. it's quite a bold play here for to show what the tory party is all about, which is cutting down on crime, making the streets safer. they have got a good record on crime. the government has crime is to down
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record levels. the nsa record low i should say, low levels, i should say, murders are down. violent crime is down. of course. theft in shopsis is down. of course. theft in shops is up. we know about that. but they have got quite a good story. they want to trumpet that and try and clear that they and try and make clear that they can that the public. and can show that to the public. and this rishi sunak's this is really rishi sunak's only to set an only chance maybe to set out an agenda looking the polls. he agenda looking at the polls. he may be winning election may not be winning next election if polls stay where they if the polls stay where they are. so here's his chance to set his agenda. the briefing note bev turner us saying this bev turner of us are saying this is about the long term is all about the long term future making future of the country, making these choices. the change these tough choices. the change policies about the policies we heard about at the party conference they're party conference and they're trying differentiate that trying to differentiate that with keir starmer, someone who is who moves with the with the pubuc is who moves with the with the public opinion and is never , public opinion and is never, never still on one thing. so that's the idea behind it that's that's the idea behind it and whether off we'll and whether it comes off we'll see are traps in there of see there are traps in there of course about and gas course about oil and gas licences to make sure the licences laws to make sure the government issues annually government issues those annually would labour withdraw those. and as bev was saying, their measures on on self—drive cars. also there's a regulator for the
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football at the top five football at the top five football divisions . there's football divisions. there's measures to stop smoking , all measures to stop smoking, all sorts of things. so it's interesting . i think it is quite interesting. i think it is quite a punchy, quick king speech. but i think in politics we're looking at tax and spend , and looking at tax and spend, and that's in the autumn that's really in the autumn statement in two weeks time. >> finally, chris, what is >> just finally, chris, what is conspicuously missing from this king's is the suella king's speech is the suella braverman attempts to stop the homeless people being given tents by charities . now, that tents by charities. now, that was a front page story in the financial times at the weekend. the home office confirmed it, but it's not there. what's happened as the prime minister blocked it , happened as the prime minister blocked it, it looks like the pm's got a bit wobbly because he was asked about that on his visit to north norfolk yesterday. >> if he agreed that it was a lifestyle choice to stay in a tent on the street and he he moved away from that, saying, we're trying to make the streets safer there might be safer and there might be measures on vagrancy. but i think specific point about think the specific point about about charities, about banning charities, giving out people, out tents to homeless people, as revealed at the weekend, looks unlikely in king's speech.
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>> okay. thank very much, >> okay. thank you very much, chris. let's go to cameron walker now outside buckingham palace. is a beautiful day , palace. it is a beautiful day, cameron. the perfect cameron. this is the perfect british occasion. is it not? just tell us what we should expect. what are we going to see today ? today? >> well, it is full pomp and pageantry returning to central london here today , if you may be london here today, if you may be able to, in the distance hear the musicians of the household division just warming up because not very long from now, the king will emerge from buckingham palace in the diamond state coach with a full minister, military escort of 1400 members of the armed forces . his military escort of 1400 members of the armed forces. his and military escort of 1400 members of the armed forces . his and 124 of the armed forces. his and 124 horses. now one of those horses is going to be ridden by the king's sister, princess anne, the princess royal. she'll be in her blues and royals uniform as colonel of that particular division . she is going to be division. she is going to be returning to her role as golden stick in waiting, the ceremonial role when it comes to being the king's person bodyguard. she
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took up that role during the coronation back in may. queen camilla is also going to be accompanying the king. she is expected to be wearing her coronation dress once again. and for the first time, she's going to be wearing a crown which used to be wearing a crown which used to be wearing a crown which used to be worn by queen elizabeth ii. now this particular crown, the state diadem, is the really famous one, which queen elizabeth rode to westminster abbey during her coronation. but also it's the one used on all the stamps and all the banknotes as well , all the king, when he as well, all the king, when he arrives at the house of lords and has put on all his robes, including the robe of state, and the admiral, admiral of the fleet royal naval dress, he will also be wearing the imperial state crown. now, we haven't seen him wear this since the king's coronation, and we haven't seen this physically worn by a monarch since 2016. that was the last time that queen elizabeth ii and physically wore the crown. now, it's very heavy. it's over a
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kilogram. and she famously once said that had to take the said that she had to take the speech up to read it. the monarch's speech up to read it, rather than put her heads down. because if she does that, her neck would break. that's what queen said. so no queen elizabeth ii said. so no doubts the king has heeded her words when reads it today. words when he reads it today. now, could be a bit of a now, this could be a bit of a challenge for the king. know challenge for the king. we know as wales, he was as prince of wales, he was criticised from time to time, perhaps straying too close to the political line. but as sovereign he has taken after his mother, queen elizabeth ii and has remained very apolitical. but we do know there are hints that there are going to be some climate points in that speech, including new oil and gas licences. government's going to be issuing them every year. and we know the king is very hot on climate change issues. so i think many will be watching closely to see how he reacts to that later on today. >> cameron, what do you think? it says that about king charles and prince us anne's relationship, that he's chosen to give her this significant
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role . role. >> i think it shows that they are incredibly close . if you are incredibly close. if you remember back to well, you won't remember, but in 1952, for queen elizabeth ii, first state opening of parliament, the little prince charles at the time, and princess anne were at clarence house watching on the wall, as we're told, as the procession marched past down the mall. and since then, of course, the king and princess anne have remained incredibly close and there has been a lot of turmoil privately within the family over the last decade, particularly with the departure of prince harry and meghan to move to khalife and of course, the fallout of prince andrew having to step back as a working member of the royal family which is why perhaps it's very important for the king to have these close family relationships with his family relationships with a his sister, princess anne, who has been given, as you say, a very special role today as golden stick in waiting. and of course, prince william as well, who's in
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singapore representing the country singapore representing the cou okay singapore representing the couokay . thank you so much both >> okay. thank you so much both christopher hope there in westminster cameron walker christopher hope there in w(buckingham cameron walker christopher hope there in w(buckingham palaceeron walker christopher hope there in w(buckingham palaceernweiialker christopher hope there in w(buckingham palaceernweiialkfbe at buckingham palace. we will be talking as the talking to you both as the morning goes on. >> i to see more princess >> i like to see more princess anne. think she's great. anne. i think she's great. and she the week of the she she during the week of the queen's and funeral, she queen's death and funeral, she was wasn't she? was extraordinary, wasn't she? >> brilliant. if we >> she's just brilliant. if we could clone princess anne could just clone princess anne and whole royal family and have a whole royal family of princess think we'd princess anne's, i think we'd all she's. all be happy. she's. >> she's a hard worker. no >> she's such a hard worker. no fuss, no frills, no controversy. she just gets on it. she just gets on with it. doesn't love doesn't she love it? >> still to come. modern >> right. still to come. modern day suffragettes or just insufferable going day suffragettes or just inssit erable going day suffragettes or just inssit erablewith going day suffragettes or just inssit erablewith a going day suffragettes or just inssit erablewith a just going day suffragettes or just inssit erablewith a just stop ing day suffragettes or just inssit erablewith a just stop oil to sit down with a just stop oil spokesperson in the studio. don't we're gb news, don't miss it. we're gb news, britain's channel .
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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> and it's 1026. you're with gb >> and it's1026. you're with gb news britain's newsroom on gb news britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. so in the king's speech, the government is expected to include legislation forcing ministers to conduct an annual oil licence round. this oil and gas licence round. this came out yesterday and it sent those people from just uphill who, you know, we love and hate in equal measure into a bit of a spin. >> that's right. two protesters were arrested after glass protecting the rokeby venus painting at the national gallery in london was smashed . in london was smashed. >> about 100 arrests were also made by the police as just stop oil causing chaos . made by the police as just stop oil causing chaos. marching on whitehall . whitehall. >> so dr. patrick hart is a spokesperson for just stop oil
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and joins us now. i have to say, patrick, i do admire the fact that you and your lot will have these conversations with us. a lot of the time, people who are trying to make social change do it doors and they it behind closed doors and they won't these really won't have these really difficult conversations because as we are as two people sitting here, we are furious about these sorts of protest , just the sorts of protest, just the destruction. the point lis damage to a picture like this, the disruption to people's lives and the awful lengths that you're going to which don't make any difference whatsoever to whether we should have more oil and gas licences. so >> so i take your your point that the outrage caused by this. i've been involved in lots of these types of actions myself and i see it from my family, from my friends. they are annoyed, they're angry, and i understand that it's a natural reaction . but then what they say reaction. but then what they say is i admire you for standing up
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for your values . so is i admire you for standing up for your values. so i'm a is i admire you for standing up for your values . so i'm a doctor for your values. so i'm a doctor and i became a doctor because of my core values. and that is that i want people to be safe and to live live their life in a in safety, to be able to do what they want, be around their family, have a happy life . family, have a happy life. >> are you a medical doctor? i'm a medical. >> a medical. i'm a gp. so every day i go to work and my number one concern is keeping my patients safe. and that is the exact reason why i am doing these actions to keep people safe. >> but, you know , you on >> but, you know, you on occasions, the tactic of just stop oil has meant ambulances have been unable to get to hospital because you've disrupted the traffic so badly. how does that equate with your hippocratic oath about keeping people safe as a doctor? >> so i have a real problem with this . so what >> so i have a real problem with this. so what my bigger >> so i have a real problem with this . so what my bigger problem this. so what my bigger problem is the person in the ambulance does. listen to what i've got to say. we asked for freedom of information requests to the
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ambulance service and no emergency has ever emergency ambulance has ever been delayed by just stop oil and i think what you're doing, i think what you're doing, unfortunately, is fear mongering and trying make just and you're trying to make just stop. supporters sound like stop. oil supporters sound like scary people. so what i want to do, what scary what i want to say to you is i'm sat here in front of you. i'm a family doctor. i've been a family doctor. i've been a family doctor now for five years and a doctor now for five years and a doctor 14 years. all doctor for nearly 14 years. all all i've done up until becoming all i've done up until becoming a supporter of just paul is go to work and look after families and their children. okay. am i really that scary? or maybe me? am i just a normal person? >> you absolutely terrifying . i >> you absolutely terrifying. i find that absolutely terrifying . find that absolutely terrifying. and the worst kind of doctors are those who sit there and say , are those who sit there and say, it is my job to keep you safe this awful. patricia an attitude as though that person's health, that person's well—being is also partly their responsibility . and partly their responsibility. and that idea that it is your job to keep me safe. it is not your job
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to keep me safe. it isn't that i take your point. >> so i mean, i would challenge that the duties of a doctor, as outlined by my regulator, the gmc, are patient safety is your first priority. so this is the part of the patient this is the oath that i've taken. but no, you're right. whose job really is it to keep us safe? actually it's our government's job. and in the past, at times of war, at times of economic collapse , times of economic collapse, great turmoil and disaster. the government has kept us safe . government has kept us safe. now, in 2023, we, the government is doing the exact opposite . is doing the exact opposite. every time the government says we're going to drill for more oil in the north sea, they are putting our lives in danger. british people's lives in dangenl british people's lives in danger. i disagree. and killing lis. us. >> us. >> i disagree. and you can find scientists who would disagree with you and say they do not look the same if we really, really hard. >> maybe we'll find one. but 99.9% of scientists around the world and might i add , global
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world and might i add, global doctors and health care workers. we've seen just last week a letter, a joint letter from the representatives of 3 million doctors around the world say new oil and gas means death for our patients. >> so let's let's just keep importing gas from russia then, shall we? no. and how is that environmentally friendly? >> let's us get ourselves >> no, let's us get ourselves off oil and gas. so the reason we're still using so much oil and gas, importing liquid gas, which is the reason more damage to the environment, the reason we're still using so much oil and gas is because the companies , the very already very wealthy companies, very powerful companies, very powerful companies drill this stuff companies who drill this stuff up, the polluters are keeping us addicted. okay >> we could i am addicted to having a warm house because the cold kills more people every winter than the heat ever thought. >> you might say this. so you're so that question implies we have to choose. do we die of cold or do we die of heat? okay, how about we said it in one of the richest countries on earth, one
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of the greatest times to be alive of? maybe we could say we won't die of either. we could insulate our homes and install heat pumps which protest about that protest about that heat pumps, which in the in the middle of summer you flick a switch and it becomes an air conditioner. okay >> nobody does smashing a painting at the national gallery helpless . helpless. >> let me finish. nobody has to die of heat or cold. all right. but why on earth do we accept either those things? how does either of those things? how does smashing okay, smashing a painting. how? okay, so painting, which wasn't so the painting, which wasn't smashed , the glass was smashed, smashed, the glass was smashed, is the exact painting that over 100 years go. back in 1914, you already said it yourself. the suffragettes actually slashed the painting. okay at that time , the painting. okay at that time, the painting. okay at that time, the world we were living in was, again, a world where politics was broken. women had been asking nicely for the vote for a very long time. okay and then finally, a group of women got together and ordinary women got together and ordinary women got together and ordinary women got together and said, what are our values? what do we really care about? we care about equal
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rights for women and we are not going to be ignored any longer. they slashed that painting and now we build statues of them. okay, it is so offensive to me. >> i am almost impossible to offend patrick, but i find it so offensive to compare the suffragettes to protesting for women to have the vote to take part in our democracy with you deciding with just stop oil deciding with just stop oil deciding that there's a consensus on the science . that's consensus on the science. that's the very definition of science has never consensus. >> yes, that was the scientist. >> yes, that was the scientist. >> you decide you've all decided that for benefit, you need to that for my benefit, you need to cause this kind of disruption in london, this kind of damage across london and europe . it is across london and europe. it is not your place to make that decision for other people . decision for other people. >> so the two people who did just stop oil supporters who took part in this action, they actually we are i think they were 20 and 22. they're young people. they are actually doing it because they are fighting for their own lives. okay? they have
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to live with the consequences of their own lives. okay? they have to ldecisions1e consequences of their own lives. okay? they have to ldecisions they nsequences of their own lives. okay? they have to ldecisions they have. ences of their own lives. okay? they have to ldecisions they have. aces of the decisions they have. a criminal record now. >> so. criminal record now. >> well, so why would someone say, okay, i accept criminal record? because actually that's better what's coming down better than what's coming down the line to me because they're young know what young kids who don't know what they're because they they're doing because they are well and are well informed and they are standing values, standing up for their values, standing up for their values, standing up for their values, standing up against an act of genocide, which is new oil and gas. it is an genocide that is an over the top state, i'm afraid that it's just the truth . afraid that it's just the truth. >> and if you if you if you're ludicrous, if you don't like it, the narrative you're painting here is over the top. >> if you don't like it, i don't blame you. genocide is a terrifying word, but unfortunately, that is the truth. so what i've got to say is no new oil and gas and anyone listening to this come and join us there. eight saturday, the 18th of november on belgrave square , midday. get down there . square, midday. get down there. >> join just before you make your patrick defend your you defend your horn. >> the fact that you have these conversations. we respect you for don't respect
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for doing that. don't respect you but thank you for your actions. but thank you for your actions. but thank you so much. right. we've got a lot this morning prince lot more this morning prince huffy and meghan huffy harry and meghan insist that over that charles snubbed them over his party. yeah, right. >> who believes that ? >> who believes that? >> who believes that? >> well, i don't believe it . he >> well, i don't believe it. he didn't walk so they could swim. captain tom moore's family has lost that planning application appeal demolition of appeal against the demolition of their ball. their unauthorised spa ball. what a mess they've made of that charity and much, more charity that and much, much more after morning's news with after your morning's news with sophia . sophia. >> it's 1035. sophia. >> it's1035. i'm sophia sophia. >> it's 1035. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. sarah monial possessions are poised to begin ahead of the king's speech today. the king will lead his first state opening of parliament as monarch. the speech will include what the prime minister calls his vision of a better britain. it will detail the sentencing bill as rishi sunak is promising tougher punishment for killers, rapists and grooming gang leaders. other measures expected in the king's speech include a law to mandate annual oil and gas licence in
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the north sea, a key dividing line with labour justice secretary alex chalk told gb news how the government will put the criminal justice system at the criminal justice system at the heart of its plans . the heart of its plans. >> we want to ensure that where a murder takes place and it is a particularly evil murder, they're all incredibly serious. but that's to say there is sexual context or indeed sadism that that individual should expect to spend the rest of their life behind bars. now that's important for public protection. so that they're not out in the public commit out in the public and commit that again, also we that offence again, but also we think the that meets the think that the that meets the justice the so we want justice of the case. so we want to ensure , i i've to ensure, as i as i've indicated, for those most serious offenders, life means life and also for rape offenders that they should expect to spend the of that sentence in custody. >> israel says it's open to a pause in gaza, fighting to allow for humanitarian aid. benjamin netanyahu says israel would consider tactical little pauses to let aid in and allow for the exit of hostages. but the israeli leader reiterated his country's rejection of a
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,1.1508. the price of gold is at £1,599.18 per and £1,599.18 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7403 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . when we get those to you i >> there we go. this is a huge day. >> yeah. first king's speech for since 1950. and he is in going to have a very uncomfortable journey to the palace of westminster because that carriage is old and very bumpy and there is no suspension, no suspension, no springs in the seat. so they will have they will be trying not to grimace the king and queen, but it's historic. they're being followed by the royal household guard. lots of people lining the streets. the sun is shining. and i think this is britain's pomp and pageantry at its best. >> oh, it's wonderful . and do
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>> oh, it's wonderful. and do you know what i love? i love the juxtaposition of this. okay. we've got this tradition. we've got we've got the got the horses. we've got the carriages. if you aren't near a tv, get to the tv and turn on gb news. if you're just listening on whilst to going on the radio whilst to going make announcements about driver less cars on the street of this country, which is such a modern image and in that group of horsemen and women of course is the princess royal princess anne, who is on her horse. >> she's riding. it's an honour. she's got a ceremonial role. i think it's the order of the stick. yes, something like that. >> it's known as the official bodyguard of the king. >> on a day like today. and cameron walker was saying earlier, what reflection that earlier, what a reflection that is and a symbol, actually, of how close their relationship is. king charles and princess anne, the princess royal, not as many crowds on the street today as there was obviously with the coronation or the queen's funeral. but we've still got people lined up there behind the fence. it's actually a brilliant day if you were in london.
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>> and i wonder if he's grumbling to queen camilla about what he's got to say in the speech, because we know he will not too pleased the not be too pleased about the fact government is writing fact the government is writing into for the first into legislation for the first time. be annual time. there will be an annual auction of sea oil and gas auction of north sea oil and gas licences, which i'm all licences, which actually i'm all in an and he will be in favour of an and he will be greeted, he will enter his own entrance because there's a sovereign's entrance at the house of lords . and of course he house of lords. and of course he wouldn't go through. he wouldn't go the commoners because go through the commoners because . so we're going to get some reaction from our royal correspondent, cameron walker . correspondent, cameron walker. but first, we're going to have a short break, so stay with
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>> patrick christys weekdays from three on . from three on. news 1044 us britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner right, let's go to all of the action which is happening in london this morning . london this morning. >> rishi sunak is on his way to the house of lords. there he is just a few moments ago walking out of 10 downing street, getting into his lovely, silvery blue rover to make his way blue range rover to make his way to the house of lords, where, of course, the king will be delivering the king's speech, and going the king is and he is going the king is travelling in the diamond state and he is going the king is traveandj in the diamond state and he is going the king is traveand of| the diamond state and he is going the king is traveand of course amond state and he is going the king is trave and of course we and state and he is going the king is traveand of course wejnd ssee) coat and of course we will see him wearing that crown, the imperial state crown which we last in coronation. last saw in the coronation. >> queen stopped wearing the >> the queen stopped wearing the crown state opening >> the queen stopped wearing the crown was.ate opening >> the queen stopped wearing the crown was.ate (toming >> the queen stopped wearing the crown was.ate (too heavy because it was just too heavy and the most beautiful day and it's the most beautiful day in london today. in in london today. >> fantastic winter day. sun is shining . let's go back to shining. let's go back to cameron walker, who was there in
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buckingham as king buckingham palace as king charles left the building in that beautiful carriage . what that beautiful carriage. what did you make of that, cameron we took a little while, andrew and l. took a little while, andrew and i, to remember the name of that carriage. i'm sure you knew it straight away . straight away. >> yeah. yeah well, there's a number of carriages , isn't number of carriages, isn't there? but the king, of course , there? but the king, of course, part of a sovereign's escort, escorted by a number of military personnel. 1400 expected to take part. crowds wise , not as big as part. crowds wise, not as big as the coronation or indeed, the platinum jubilee of the late queen elizabeth. the second he is going to be wearing his robes of state and admiral of the fleet royal naval dress, you spoke about the fact that the late queen did not wear the imperial state crown or hasn't or didn't for a number of years. the last time she wore it was in 2016. but the king is expected to wear it for the state opening of parliament and of course, the first time he has opened parliament as monarch , as well parliament as monarch, as well
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as that the queen as in queen camilla, she is going to be wearing the one of the state diadems. it's a very famous crown. again made very famous by being worn by queen elizabeth ii. and it's that famous one that we see on stamps and on banknotes. it's very much pomp and pageantry in action. and earlier we were talking about the relationship between different royal family members, particularly of king particularly that of king charles and princess anne. his sister, the princess royal. now she is colonel of the blues and royals regiment . she's in her royals regiment. she's in her blues and royals uniform on a horse. and she is resuming her role as golden stick in waiting and that is essentially the ceremonial role of the king's personal bodyguard. it's only ceremonial , personal bodyguard. it's only ceremonial, of course, personal bodyguard. it's only ceremonial , of course, nowadays, ceremonial, of course, nowadays, but she took up that role during the king's coronation as well. but that just shows perhaps the closeness of a relationship and the trust that the king puts on in his only sister as well . of in his only sister as well. of course, he's been through a lot together over the last decade or so with perhaps a bit of family.
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break—up when it comes to prince harry meghan moving harry and meghan moving to california and prince harry stepping working stepping back as a working member royal family. it member of the royal family. it was in 1950 that the then very young toddler, prince charles, was sat on the wall of clarence house, watching grandparents house, watching his grandparents and princess elizabeth and the then princess elizabeth processed down the mall as he has just done for the state opening of parliament. then it was just before king charles's 19th birthday that he took part in the procession of the state opening of parliament in 19 in the late 1960s. but, of course, at that time it was queen elizabeth ii. so there's going to be lots of pomp and pageantry going on later. and of course, the main event, of course, will be king's speech. and we'll be the king's speech. and we'll have to see how he reacts to that being very much a political something had to do something that he's had to do since becoming sovereign very much walker much cameron, cameron walker there palace . there at buckingham palace. >> we are joined in the studio now by news, a senior now by gb news, a senior political commentator. nigel nelson, and political commentator this commentator tanya buxton this morning. nigel, today is this fabulous isn't it, of
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fabulous blend, isn't it, of royal pageantry? but also politics. this is a huge day in politics. this is a huge day in politics. just explain why. >> well , i mean, the politics. just explain why. >> well, i mean, the king is reading out a speech that's been written, written for him by rishi sunak and the speech written for it is so highly political. it's not just a kind of government program for the next year. this is the program for rishi sunak to try and win the next election by. and that's what makes it so political . all what makes it so political. all the bits i would imagine the king won't like is the stuff on on net zero. there is some wavering on whether we're going to get there, get there. of course, he's a very keen environmental list, so he's not going to like to read it. that bit. >> and it is, as you say, overtly political and a lot of the election is clearly going to be fought on the issue of law and order because it's packed with law and order stuff. >> yeah, it is. i mean, the idea about keeping murderers in pnson about keeping murderers in prison longer rapists prison for longer and rapists s that's but what about the that's fine. but what about the pnson that's fine. but what about the prison know we've got prison places? we know we've got a crisis in the prisons at the moment. we can we're going be
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moment. we can we're going to be able to rent prison cells abroad. well, one of the abroad. well, that's one of the ideas but mean, ideas going on. but i mean, i would have thought the more important would important thing would be to actually build more actually build some more prisons. >> indeed. and we've >> yeah, indeed. and we've just heard protests saying heard some protests there saying not not many of not my king, but not many of them, and a bit hearted. them, and a bit half hearted. the republicans a bit of a the republicans about a bit of a bad time, aren't they really? the death of the the coronation, the death of the queen the nation. queen united, the nation. it's tanya. >> like this when we worry >> a day like this when we worry about britain's tradition is being fabulous, isn't it? >> it's so important. >> it's so important. >> so important that we >> it's so important that we keep these traditions so my mother and father are greek cypriot immigrants came over here and honestly, you never seen anyone keep the traditions in the way that they did. they were so proud to come into this country, proud to be british, country, so proud to be british, which, you know , my mum would which, you know, my mum would literally stand, you know, when the was on telly, you the queen was on telly, you know. so we're very proud british people . and these things british people. and these things are so important. they make me, they make me happy. and, you know , the sun is shining down. know, the sun is shining down. it's it says something that the sun is shining today.
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>> and this beautiful day, these images will be relayed around the world because the whole world 72 world first king's speech for 72 years years and i think years and 73 years and i think it shows britain at its best actually. >> i think it really does. and so those protesters you saw there, everyone's going, there, everyone's just going, why you just shut up? no why don't you just shut up? no one's interested in them. nigel >> i can't remember if you're a republican at heart. >> no, no, i'm a monarchist. >> no, no, i'm a monarchist. >> i'm just not a oh royalist. so what's the difference is i haven't got much time for the royal family as a whole . haven't got much time for the royal family as a whole. but i have a i do believe that we should have a non—political head of who should be the of state who should be the monarch. it seems to be. we're very lucky to have that. it's kept stability in the country. it's very important to maintain that. so, yes , i remain that. so, yes, i remain a monarchist. i'm keen on the king. >> but what do you think about all the pomp and pageantry? do you think it's time to modernise it? no, not at all. >> the whole thing about this is that those bits there are that all those bits there are symbolic of history , and b, symbolic of our history, and b, this idea that we have a monarch
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as head of state. and so i think it reinforce forces how our system works to have that kind of pageantry to go along with that. >> yeah. tanya, what i love as well about today is we've got all of this very archaic symbolism of a of a procession like this, of the journey to the house of lords and then the king will talk about some very, very modern issues which are unique to 2023. for instance , what are to 2023. for instance, what are your thoughts on the fact that part of the legislation that he will announce today will make driverless cars, cars a reality on our on our roads by the end of the decade? >> i'm really, really uncomfortable with that. i mean, really uncomfortable and buses and buses and you know, i'm uncomfortable with not having people manning the buses like they did in the olden days. you know, you buy a ticket from the ticket person, conductor, conductor, because as you know, it was having another body on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. ng another body on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. ig another body on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. i now)ther body on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. i now don'tjody on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. i now don't feel on conductor, because as you know, it wbuses. i now don't feel safe n the buses. i now don't feel safe with my children getting buses late night. so i think it's
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late at night. so i think it's wrong. i think it's doing people out jobs. and i don't i don't out of jobs. and i don't i don't like at all. like it at all. >> i prefer i was we were talking to david davis earlier, the and i said i prefer the tory mp, and i said i prefer if we had driverless trains. so then rmt stop holding then the rmt could stop holding us ransom. nighthorse mates us to ransom. nighthorse mates in holding to in the trade unions holding to us these train us ransom with all these train strikes. trains. us ransom with all these train strikerwe're trains. us ransom with all these train strikerwe're all trains. us ransom with all these train strikerwe're all coming.. yeah, we're all coming. >> are going to see some laws which are which are going to wreck trade movement wreck the trade union movement on the basis of these minimum level guarantees. >> that going wreck >> how is that going to wreck the trade unions? >> because. it'll probably >> because. well, it'll probably actually for all of us. actually be bad for all of us. but first a it may not but first of all, a it may not be within international law. b, that what it would mean is that strike action as such is being watered down. people have a right to strike. and the worst part of it is that they'll find a different way of doing industrial action, which could mean work to rules , overtime mean work to rules, overtime bans and what will happen is disruption will go on for longer. >> now, i just think that when there's loss, there could be loss of life if the police
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strike or if they strike in hospitals, then we must have this minimum service. hospitals, then we must have this minimum service . you just this minimum service. you just you just can't strike and you have them in hospitals already. >> i mean, if the doctors or nurses go strike, there is nurses go on strike, there is actually a minimum service for emergencies in germany, the emergencies in germany, in the netherlands, they explicit netherlands, they have explicit statutory minimum service laws. yeah, what's wrong with it? yeah, but what's wrong with it? >> why can't we? >> why can't we? >> because they've been negotiated and these are not being these being negotiated. these are being negotiated. these are being kind being imposed. so the kind of laws exist elsewhere in laws that exist elsewhere in europe sorted out with europe have been sorted out with the unions and that is the way to do it. if you want to try and do this, negotiate with the unions, with them, what the government? well, they're not, are they? what they're doing is they're imposing a on the they're imposing a law on the unions without any negotiate whatsoever. >> i think we know what the union be. union response will be. >> that's unreasonable. >> tanya, that's unreasonable. >> tanya, that's unreasonable. >> put this you as >> let me put this to you as well. something else that's going to be in king's going to be in in the king's speech morning that we speech at this morning that we are waiting for. don't go anywhere. sentencing anywhere. the sentencing bill will new legal will create a new legal presumption that offenders facing under facing jail sentences of under 12 instead be 12 months will instead be punished by community work ,
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punished by community work, unpaid work, such as cleaning up our neighbourhoods and scrubbing graffiti off walls. hear, hear about. >> about time. about time . >> about time. about time. nearly. nearly. did. did. did you see that? about bloomington. about bloomington . i mean, i about bloomington. i mean, i just understand why this hasn't happened mean, a lot happened before. i mean, a lot of coming in with this is of what's coming in with this is common sense. if you do a really grievous crime of murder or or your raping someone, then you should do your time, do your time and if it's a small crime, then you should be made to pay back to the public. they should be cleaning streets, getting rid of graffiti, working. i actually think be doing think that they should be doing some serious time in prisons as well. mean, they cost us a well. i mean, they cost us a fortune. we should to fortune. we should not have to pay fortune. we should not have to pay them. should be pay for them. they should be paying pay for them. they should be paying for their time prison. paying for their time in prison. >> why should people be >> i mean, why should people be in prison for not paying their tv licence? absolutely tv licence? it's absolutely we're we're looking we're looking at we're looking at pictures here from the at live pictures here from the house they're in their ermine. >> they're their in >> they're in their ermine in their cloaks with their their red cloaks with their white collars. if you're white ermine collars. if you're listening radio, listening on the radio, absolutely packed. i would imagine if you're in the house
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of lords, don't miss today, of lords, you don't miss today, do nigel? you're to do you, nigel? you're going to do you, nigel? you're going to do everything be there. do everything to be there. >> yeah. i mean, i've >> oh, yeah. i mean, i've watched several times. watched it several times. i mean, it is it is a great performance. it's a spectacle. yes. an absolute spectacle. >> not many mps managed to >> not many mps get managed to get but then we'll see get in there, but then we'll see rishi and starmer rishi sunak and keir starmer walking the commons to the walking from the commons to the lords, very uncomfortable lords, making very uncomfortable small they always have. >> well, they always have. >> well, they always have. >> mean, they always have. yes >> i mean, they always have. yes i mean, it's very difficult. and also lip readers then also you have lip readers then trying out they're trying to find out what they're saying. always very saying. and it was always very difficult theresa may difficult with theresa may because do small because she doesn't do small talk. all. as we both talk. not at all. as we both know, both know that she's know, we both know that she's okay. if she's on a stage, okay. okay. if she's on a stage, she's not okay as a 1 to 1. >> no, no. painful. so there are just arriving at the lords now. it so. and goes, the it seems so. and he goes, the king go in the sovereign's king will go in the sovereign's entrance course, they entrance because of course, they have entrance only have their own entrance only used occasions, of course. >> so this is the this was the footage of charles leaving footage of king charles leaving buckingham palace a little while ago. i think it was about half an hour ago in the imperial state. >> coach, thank you. >> coach, thank you. >> yep. in the imperial state.
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coach under the beautiful sunshine this morning. so this was and any minute was him leaving and any minute now will be seeing now i think we will be seeing the pictures of king charles arriving at at the house of lords, obviously, and rishi sunak. i presume, arrives after the king, one would assume, in his range rover. yeah. yeah. but the whole world is. >> well, maybe before they admire king. they're just admiring every part of this because you just don't get this in country. >> imagine what level the state in in germany it was a boring old president that nobody's ever heard of . heard of. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> and the same in ireland . i >> and the same in ireland. i think we're very lucky to have them. we've had them. i think we've had a renewed sense. >> i personally have had a renewed sense of appreciation for the royal in recent for the royal family in recent years. i think that we have this , as you said, nigel, you know , , as you said, nigel, you know, a body that can hold parliament to account, to some degree. >> well, they don't do that. it's not so much holding it to account if you have a president . account if you have a president. and a president is inevitably a politician . yeah. so politicians
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politician. yeah. so politicians politics comes into it to have a head of state who is non political. that's the bit i think we're lucky about. yeah. >> and of course we will now never know his opinions on anything. we've his anything. we've known his opinions for years. >> indeed have. >> indeed we have. >> indeed we have. >> that he cares about. >> yes. that he cares about. well, i hope so. >> i hope. i hope he does. what he he to be political. his he he has to be political. his mother the example mother was the perfect example of monarch should behave. of how a monarch should behave. you she was perfect you know, she was the perfect queen. and so i think the reason that when everyone up and that when everyone rose up and was sad when she died and was so sad when she died and passed on is that we were we know was end of an era and know it was an end of an era and we need him to step up and we just need him to step up and be as perfect as she was because we knew opinion on we never knew her opinion on absolutely anything. >> we didn't. absolutely anything. >> andiidn't. absolutely anything. >> andiidn'was stoic. so stoic. >> yeah. yeah >> yeah. yeah >> she had her ways though, didn't she? i mean, do you didn't she? nigel i mean, do you remember the referendum in remember in the referendum in scotland independence? hope scotland on independence? i hope people they're doing. people know what they're doing. >> indeed. yeah, mean, >> yes, indeed. yeah, i mean, that david. david cameron made >> yes, indeed. yeah, i mean, thaimistake)avid cameron made >> yes, indeed. yeah, i mean, thaimistake)a\actuallyron made the mistake of actually repeating conversation had repeating a conversation he had with that a with the queen. that is also a no no. you don't you don't talk to down telephone. didn't he? but fact, i mean, there is a
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but in fact, i mean, there is a there situation where the there is a situation where the monarch have real power. if monarch does have real power. if you to a stage where where you get to a stage where where neither big party can form a government. yes it is down to the monarch to then decide who should actually form the next government. so it happens very, very rarely . but it's an very rarely. but it's an incredibly important role . i incredibly important role. i think the last time it happened well, i mean, it certainly happened harold wilson's happened under harold wilson's day. but the important day. yeah, but the important thing the important thing about it is that you must make it is that. that you must make that decision in a non—political way. this is actually for the benefit of the country. >> and she would be advised, of course, the king course, that's what the king there advice there. there would be advice there. >> ultimately , it's the one >> but ultimately, it's the one power that the monarch has to actually decide who would form a government if there is a tie. >> yeah, the other thing, of course, which will be announced today the today in terms of the legislation is this change to the of tobacco. so, tanya, the sales of tobacco. so, tanya, we read about in the paper we read about this in the paper just recently. one of just recently. this is one of the things king charles just recently. this is one of the �*talkjs king charles just recently. this is one of the �*talk about king charles just recently. this is one of the �*talk about today. harles just recently. this is one of the �*talk about today. soles just recently. this is one of the �*talk about today. so by will talk about today. so by 2043, only those over the age of 35 would be able to make such
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purchases legally . of course, purchases legally. of course, this is under the auspices of helping the health of the nation. >> it's just wrong, isn't it? it's just rubbish. i mean, if you really want to help the health of the nation, then you would make vapes, which is what's getting young people into smoking. would make smoking. you would make them taste nicotine, that taste of nicotine, and that would really the nation, would really help the nation, not things. that's it's not banning things. that's it's a mistake. >> don't know how you enforce >> i don't know how you enforce it. is the guy in the it. how is how is the guy in the local shop, local shop going local shop, the local shop going to we don't have to know the age? we don't have an card in this country. an id card in this country. >> it's not worth a print it's printed on, is it? it's just not. >> you will have to produce your passport, won't you? will your driving i mean, i'm driving licence? no i mean, i'm open. of this law. open. i'm in favour of this law. i really. yeah, think it i really. yeah, i think it actually makes awful lot of actually makes an awful lot of sense. because it's a sense. why? because it's a gradual process. yes. that it won't any existing won't penalise any existing smokers will discourage smokers now. it will discourage young from smoking and young people from smoking and eventually, if it works and we don't know, you would complete eradicate smoking over eradicate anything. >> a couple of generations, you
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just push it underground. that's all you do. if you want to stop young people from smoking, make vapes taste of nicotine, that'll do it. >> enough, this bill >> funnily enough, this bill today will also in rules today will also bring in rules regulating the flavours and descriptions vapes . tony, i descriptions of vapes. tony, i told you there's a lot of common sense here. there is. told you there's a lot of common senthere1ere. there is. told you there's a lot of common senthere is, 5. there is. told you there's a lot of common senthere is, butlere is. told you there's a lot of common senthere is, but it's is. told you there's a lot of common senthere is, but it's not >> there is, but it's not enough. it's got to make it taste like nicotine, like, do you know what a cigarette tastes like? you never yeah, like? you never smoke. yeah, they have they taste disgusting. you have to really push through if you're going be a smoker. you know, going to be a smoker. you know, when a teenager and i when i was a teenager and i wanted i pushed wanted to be cool, i pushed through. quite a few through. i was quite a few times. >> smoking is hard work. it's hard think they taste >> do you think they taste disgusting? nigel? what vapes cigarettes? >> no, obviously not. othennise, i smoking i wouldn't keep smoking them. >> smoking vapes >> but you're smoking vapes and smoke cigarettes? >> but you're smoking vapes and smoke afraid tes? >> but you're smoking vapes and smoke afraid so,? >> but you're smoking vapes and smoke afraid so, yes. and how >> i'm afraid so, yes. and how is that going? well, i'm not giving up at the moment, either of them, probably not very well. >> so we're looking at live pictures of the house pictures here of the house of lords. can see some of the clerks >> we can see some of the clerks there. they're the black and there. they're in the black and gold their lordships are gold robes. their lordships are in the red or in the ermine robes. and just trying to work.
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that's angie bray. that's baroness left . she's baroness bray on the left. she's a conservative. i can't work out. i can't remember the one who's on the right now. no can't. >> is there one on the right? >> is there one on the right? >> is there one on the right? >> i and they will have got there very early to get their seats because they will not want the who never turn up the lords who never turn up tonya elbowing their way in because this is the big day. >> is this one of the very rare occasions where all of the laws will sitting in the house? will be sitting in the house? can even fit in there? can they even all fit in there? you can't in the same way, in the same way in the house of commons. >> you can't actually get every mp house of commons. mp into the house of commons. they're that way to they're designed that way to make chambers look actually crowded. >> so is it first come, first serve, then? >> i don't know. i think if you're working peer, you would you're a working peer, you would have you have priority over peers. you only once a year. only turn up once a year. >> not like being a >> it's not like being a holiday. you can't put your cloak on the on the chair like your sunbed towel. you your sunbed with your towel. you can't get there early. >> remember, over >> but remember, there are over 800 house of 800 members of the house of lords, is frankly lords, which is frankly ridiculous. yes. >> and they're to cut it >> and they're trying to cut it down. the american down. and the american senate hasyeah.
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>> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, i think there probably you should have something size as something about the same size as the commons. that would be the commons. yeah, that would be the 650. >> and there was a move, >> yeah. and there was a move, of course, to cut the number of the commons down to but mr the commons down to 600. but mr nick dem blocked nick clegg, lib dem blocked that when prime when he was deputy prime minister europe. minister of europe. >> yeah, and it may not be necessarily a good move for for the constituents if you the your constituents if you have of mega have a sort of mega constituency. so and i very much wonder shell, if wonder too, actually, shell, if we get a labour we were to get a labour government next 2023. government next time in 2023. >> do you think that keir >> nigel, do you think that keir starmer to slim starmer would make moves to slim down house of lords? he's down the house of lords? he's talking about abolishing it. >> go down that route. >> my prediction is it'll never happen. that's my view that people have constantly tried to aboush people have constantly tried to abolish the lords and abolish the house of lords and they up against huge they come up against huge constitutional problems, not least would into least because it would call into question have question whether we should have a yeah also the a monarchy. yeah and also the why would you when you've been out of power since 2010, you want to get into a fight with their lordships. >> there's far more important things for. >> yeah, i just don't think it'll exactly that, you it'll happen exactly that, you know, needs to get his head
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know, he needs to get his head down and do some of the changes that he's going to do, that he says he's going to do, but he's to going be but i think he's to going be really quite impotent really just quite impotent and not do any of the not be able to do any of the changes that he's talking about. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so watching the live >> so we're watching the live pictures here. this is king charles entourage. i'm charles and his entourage. i'm sure a royal word sure there's a royal word that means probably means entourage probably is. we'd cameron walker tell we'd need cameron walker to tell us making their way towards us that making their way towards the of in the house of lords in westminster . obviously we've got westminster. obviously we've got dozens of horses there with the soldiers. also lining the route there from the household cavalry. >> lots of police officers there , too, because they'll be worried about security, obviously, because hugely it's the king and queen camilla. and yes , particularly at the moment, yes, particularly at the moment, of course , the climate we're in of course, the climate we're in at the moment with the unease, the concern over the conflict in gaza. the concern over the conflict in gaza . and we shouldn't forget, gaza. and we shouldn't forget, was it 1981, 1982, when the queen was on horseback trooping the colour? somebody shot twice or three times at it. it was an imitation gun. but she nevertheless, she didn't know
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that. >> and she carried on. unbelievable. when we see these pictures like this, we, of course, thinking fonnard a little bit as we're waiting for king charles to arrive at house of lords to remembrance weekend. >> and there's >> coming up, tanya. and there's been all and all of been debate all week and all of last as to whether we last week as to whether we should have palestinian, pro—palestinian, anti hamas protests. this coming weekend. that is, of course, king charles and queen camilla in the diamond carriage . george, as we're carriage. george, as we're seeing there on this beautiful day . do you seeing there on this beautiful day. do you think, seeing there on this beautiful day . do you think, tanya, when day. do you think, tanya, when we look at this and we think about fonnard to the occasion that we're going to see on remembrance sunday, this weekend, should those protests be banned? >> i don't believe in banning at all. don't i don't believe in all. i don't i don't believe in banning because we're in britain. the whole point. britain. that's the whole point. but i do think that the police need and sure need to step up and make sure that they go any where that they don't go any where nean that they don't go any where near. yeah remembrance day, people that have gone out to remember the dead, to remember the people that fought for us. and also i find it i just find it so disrespectful. it's just disrespectful distasteful to
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disrespectful and distasteful to want anything that's going disrespectful and distasteful to wainterfere anything that's going disrespectful and distasteful to wainterfere with1ing that's going disrespectful and distasteful to wainterfere with remembrance. |g to interfere with remembrance. >> yeah , they could do it the >> yeah, they could do it the weekend after they've been doing it weekend. it every weekend. >> exactly. yeah. it every weekend. >> i exactly. yeah. it every weekend. >> i mean, actly. yeah. it every weekend. >> i mean, myy. yeah. it every weekend. >> i mean, my view|h. it every weekend. >> i mean, my view is that i'm with tanya here. no, we shouldn't ban it. what i would like to see is for organiser like to see is for the organiser to is a very to accept that this is a very special weekend in the calendar and to call it off. yes, it would. it would do that . it would. it would do that. it would. it would do that. it would do their cause. no end of good. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> because they're doing >> because they're not doing their good by pressing their cause any good by pressing ahead i don't think ahead with it. no, i don't think they are. >> so on the basis of that, that they would actually show that they would actually show that they respecting something they would actually show that they incredibly1g something they would actually show that they incredibly important ng that is incredibly important in this country. >> and there's no way they will call it off, because i think they're call it off, because i think the�*they won't. call it off, because i think the�* another n't. call it off, because i think the�*another week of bombing of >> another week of bombing of innocent in gaza . the innocent children in gaza. the urgency such that we need to urgency is such that we need to be seen on the global stage. and if this weekend gives them more publicity , then i believe they publicity, then i believe they will take advantage. >> i think right. i don't >> i think you're right. i don't think it will be called off, but but wish they would do that. but i wish they would do that. i think that would be a really big
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gesture. i mean, like you, gesture. but i mean, like you, i'm the optimist. that'll i'm not the optimist. that'll happen. so we've got some >> yeah. so we've got some protests here. >> yeah. so we've got some prothere's re. >> yeah. so we've got some prothere's a. >> yeah. so we've got some prothere's a rag bag, shall i >> there's a rag bag, shall i call them collection of republicans brandishing placards saying, not my king. he is your king, actually. >> now, those are the nice fresh placards because they didn't get to use them at the coronation. tony, if you remember, these guys arrested from the back guys got arrested from the back of their truck before they'd unwrapped their signs. they're getting today. unwrapped their signs. they're get yeah. today. unwrapped their signs. they're getyeah. did today. unwrapped their signs. they're get yeah. did they i. unwrapped their signs. they're getyeah. did they do that >> yeah. why did they do that again just rid of again today? just get rid of them. mean, it's just it's them. i mean, it's just it's spoiling it. you know, this we are display. britain is on are on display. britain is on display the whole of the display now for the whole of the world. this is just, you world. and this is just, you know, and depending on how news channels it can channels want to show it, it can be shown to be a big thing or a small we know it's just small thing. we know it's just like what did you call like you said. what did you call them? bag, rag bag of people. >> but they shouldn't be banned either. >> no, they should be banned, shoved to side. shoved to the side. >> really should be shoved shoved to the side. >>the really should be shoved shoved to the side. >>the side.|lly should be shoved shoved to the side. >>the side. and hould be shoved shoved to the side. >>the side. and there'se shoved shoved to the side. >>the side. and there's look, ved to the side. and there's look, there's three them. yeah. but there's three of them. yeah. but just to going back to what just going to going back to what you about palestinian you said about the palestinian demonstrations, i don't think it's their cause. what
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it's helping their cause. what they're doing. they demonstrations. don't demonstrations. i don't think it's cause. if it's helping their cause. and if they're saying, you said, they're saying, like you said, there's is some there's yes, there is some terrible going on and terrible things going on and people are dying and children are dying, they're are dying, but they're not helping the demonstrators are not they're not helping. actually. they're they're worse, they're making things worse, i think. need to do think. i think they need to do it different way. do think it a different way. do you think they're creating a sentiment that support , therefore, that is in support, therefore, of and the idf and also, of israel and the idf and also, i would creating more i would say creating much more division between division here between communities, arab muslim communities, arab muslim communities , cities, islamic, communities, cities, islamic, particularly the sort of the more nefarious islamists. >> they're showing their true colours, i think, at the moment. yeah and of course, the jewish people who suddenly do not feel safe on our streets. >> but i don't feel safe in our streets. i ended up having to cross oxford street and there was of demonstrators was loads of demonstrators there and were quite aggressive. and they were quite aggressive. you i didn't you you know, it wasn't i didn't you know, just think it's not know, and i just think it's not necessary . and i'm thinking necessary. and i'm thinking because of course, no mother, no woman, person can not have woman, no person can not have sympathy what's going on in sympathy for what's going on in in gaza at the moment. but they made me feel really uncomfortable. thought, uncomfortable. and i thought, why doing here?
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why are you doing this here? yeah. why are you doing this here? yea nigel most labour mps support >> nigel most labour mps support supporting carrying the march going ahead, aren't they ? going ahead, aren't they? >> i don't know if it's most, but i mean certainly a substantial number. are and obviously a lot of those come from the left and, and i think that keir starmer is showing and it's an important test for him. he's showing his prime ministerial credentials by sticking to the firm line that he's backing the british government. yeah and america in saying, yes, let's have a humanitarian pause, no to a ceasefire >> and does it will he stick to his guns? >> well, unfortunate phrase , but >> well, unfortunate phrase, but i mean, yes . i mean, yes. >> will he not do a u—turn , >> will he not do a u—turn, which is what he's very fond of? >> well, i hope he doesn't, because i think that the it's important to actually show, especially less than a year out from a general election, that he has what takes be prime has what it takes to be a prime minister. one thing you minister. and the one thing you need not to be buffet by your need is not to be buffet by your own mps when you're trying to
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actually do the right thing . actually do the right thing. >> and is he right not to sack frontbenchers who who breached breached that line? >> it depends what they do. so if they if a frontbencher is calling for a ceasefire. no i don't think that he should fire them. they should have the right to be able to say that the if people want to resign, that's a matter for them . um, i don't matter for them. um, i don't think that's very good for the party. a lot of people won't resign , especially on the front resign, especially on the front bench because they know they're going to be a minister, they're going to be a minister, they're going have a ministerial going to have a ministerial car and a nice department very soon. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and a a bit bigger >> and a and a bit bigger salary. and they've been waiting a very long to into government. >> exactly. government. >> yeah. .y. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i just want to turn to what some of viewers have been some of our viewers have been saying home. elizabeth has saying at home. elizabeth has got in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com saying at home. elizabeth has go say touch. vaiews@gbnews.com saying at home. elizabeth has go say that, . vaiews@gbnews.com saying at home. elizabeth has go say that, let's iews@gbnews.com saying at home. elizabeth has go say that, let's iew honest. ws.com to say that, let's be honest. let's anything that let's be honest. anything that comes of either the comes out of either of the parties just a pack of parties mouths is just a pack of lies. don't believe a word any lies. i don't believe a word any of them say in anything they do is for their benefit and for is for all their benefit and for not ours. i will not for not ours. i will not vote for any end of elizabeth.
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any party. end of elizabeth. tanya. i think elizabeth sums up to some extent political to some extent the political detachment and absolute sense of disillusionment that a lot of voters feel at the moment. >> that's absolutely true. just don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths either side . out of their mouths either side. >> and the cost of that is our democracy, because i think at the next election we're going to have stunningly low turnout. have a stunningly low turnout. >> but you're completely >> yes, but you're completely right, we just don't right, because we just don't trust politicians anymore. the message should message to elizabeth should be that is a democratic that not voting is a democratic right as well as voting. >> yeah. however rather it shouldn't be be born out of complacency. what elizabeth should do is go along to her polling station when the election comes, she should spoil her ballot paper. right. a very unpleasant message to the politicians, but at least she's turned out to show she cares. >> and the number of people who go to the ballot ballot station and spoil their ballot papers is registered. >> yes, it is registered. and the candidates see it. the important thing is the candidates actually see the ballot . so if you want to ballot paper. so if you want to send to your
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send a message to your to your to the candidates, you can do it that way. absolutely >> okay. we're still watching these live footage. live these live footage. the live from london as we wait for the state opening of parliament the king's speech, which will be happening within the next 20 minutes or so. but we want to talk now to steve mccabe, labour mp for selly oak and the parliamentary chair of the labour friends of israel group. good to you, steve. we good morning to you, steve. we are going to keep the pictures in, but we will hear, hear everything you've got to everything that you've got to say. watching these images say. we're watching these images and course it make us and of course it does make us cast fonnard to the cast our mind fonnard to the coming weekend to remembrance day your day weekend. what is your position the pro palestinian position on the pro palestinian ceasefire rallies that might occur this weekend . occur this weekend. >> well, i think as your studio guests were saying earlier , this guests were saying earlier, this is a free country. people have a right to demonstrate lawfully and peacefully . i think it would and peacefully. i think it would be tactful and considerate if
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they made sure any protests were held well away from the remembrance commemorations . remembrance commemorations. >> steve, this is the king's speech today. you'll be hoping, i presume, and expecting. absolutely. the last one from the conservatives for a very long time . long time. >> yes. this is the first and the last. it's the first for king charles. and i think that's brought out the crowds and also the security. and it's rishi sunak last chance to show the pubuc sunak last chance to show the public that he actually understood how people feel . do understood how people feel. do the bills in this speech. >> steve, there's quite a lot of populist appeal to some of them. i'm thinking about things like long term prisoners are not allowed married inside . allowed to get married inside. doesit allowed to get married inside. does it feel a little bit like legislation for a government that's on the ropes . that's on the ropes. >> well, i think the thing with
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the quick fix headline , populist the quick fix headline, populist measures like that is, you know, they last about the length of a newspaper . and i think some of newspaper. and i think some of it, you know, because it's not really addressing fundamental problems. i think some of it will have little impact . will have little impact. >> but so if it was keir starmer in there today, having written this speech for the king, what would be in there? steve, for laboun would be in there? steve, for labour, what would you be doing differently at this time . differently at this time. >> well, i think hosting immediate up front, we'd be setting a proper target for housing, a proper target for affordable social housing. within that , affordable social housing. within that, a demand that all new build is actually energy efficient and therefore people can heat their homes without being bankrupted . and i think being bankrupted. and i think that would be the number one priority to interrupt. >> sorry, steve, to talk over. >> sorry, steve, to talk over. >> you just want to interrupt you for a minute. please stay with us. just let our with us. butjust to let our viewers know, we are seeing the
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live pictures there. that was king charles and queen camilla in carriage there going in that carriage there going into house lords. they're into the house of lords. they're going sovereigns gates, going through sovereigns gates, and he will go to what used and then he will go to what used to be known as the queen's robing room will now robing room that will now be called robing room, called the king's robing room, where change his where he will change into his imperial robe. imperial state robe. >> will put on the crown, >> and he will put on the crown, of course, which we last saw at the coronation. of course, which we last saw at the so ronation. of course, which we last saw at the so ronearel. of course, which we last saw at the so roneare getting of course, which we last saw at the soroneare getting closer now >> so we are getting closer now to denouement 20 minutes. >> think. to denouement 20 minutes. >> yeah. k. to denouement 20 minutes. >> yeah. steve let's just i just want one last word to you, because we've barely had any time with you, but labour mp steve mccabe, when you see the house of lords like that 800 members, is too big? yes . and members, is it too big? yes. and on that bombshell , we will go to on that bombshell, we will go to cameron walker. yeah. cameron walker, we're seeing the interior scenes here from the house of lords. i'm not quite sure where you are now, cameron, but what can you see where you are and what can we expect next at well, i can see what you are
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seeing on the screen . seeing on the screen. >> you may have just said a very loud bang, and that is the royal salute happening in green park. some gun salutes being fired by the household division there. so, of course, it's all part of this pomp and pageantry that is going on at buckingham palace. and in central london today. inside the house of lords. you just saw them all wearing their ermine robes, tony, really get a viewing once a year. i believe the king and queen are just about to or have just stepped out of the diamond state coach inside the victoria tower entry . inside the victoria tower entry. now, if you remember, there is something called a royal staircase , which is this 26 staircase, which is this 26 steps up towards the robing room, where king charles will change into his his robes, robe of state, a very long robe of state. now, the late queen, the last time she used that staircase was in 2016, 18. but due to mobility issues, she was 90 years old. in 2016, she used the lift from then on. but that
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king charles, queen camilla are taking up, taking the stairs. once again, it's all back to normal. it's the first full procession that we've had, 1400 or so armed military personnel escorting his majesty to the house of lords today , the first house of lords today, the first one we've had full scale since the coronavirus pandemic. inside the coronavirus pandemic. inside the robing room, the king will be will have the imperial state crown put on his head. queen camilla is already wearing her coronation robe. she is going to be wearing the george iv state diadem made famous by by queen elizabeth ii what we see on stamps and on banknotes at the moment. and then the king will take the throne inside the house of lords chamber. the crown itself, the imperial state. crown which he wore on his return journey from westminster abbey to buckingham palace following his coronation in may. that crown is incredibly heavy. it has thousands of diamonds on it. it's over a kilogram in
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weight. and the late queen once said she had to bring the speech up to her face to read it. rather than put her neck downwards as would be perhaps normal when you are reading a piece of paper. the reason being is because the crown is so heavy and i quote your neck would break queen elizabeth break is what queen elizabeth seconds said. so i'm sure seconds once said. so i'm sure the king has been is taking after mother, queen after his mother, queen elizabeth. second on that advice . as for the way he reads the speech, of course, he was criticised in the past when he was prince of wales, but perhaps towing too close to the political as sovereign. political line as sovereign. what we've over last what we've seen over the last year or so is very much taking off his mother and being very apolitical. we're not to going hear any political formal statements or judgements from his majesty the king. he is reading the speech which his government has written. but we do know that there are going to be some climate related , there's be some climate related, there's going to be some climate related texts in the speech, particularly around new oil and gas licences. so i think people
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will be watching very closely to see how the king handles that. of course, climate and of course, climate change and the environment a topic very the environment, a topic very close to his heart . close to his heart. >> thank you, cameron . we are >> thank you, cameron. we are waiting for here king charles and queen camilla. they should enter into the house of lords any time soon. >> what do you think, nigel? how many how many of these have you . covered? >> 37 word? >> 37 word? >> yeah. i don't think we missed one any particularly memorable ones? no. some of the tony blair ones? no. some of the tony blair ones were for the right reasons . ones were for the right reasons. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> in the early days , i mean, >> in the early days, i mean, when tony blair was actually setting out the new labour stall just after 97, you wondered if, in fact some of the things being said in that were things that the queen was actually agreeing with. yeah, but of course the monarch never shows any emotion. i mean, that's the important thing . thing. >> of course, it included reforming the house of lords.
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>> well, that's the point that i mean, tony blair was, as one of the others who tried to reform it. he didn't get very far. well, he got rid of most of the hereditary he got rid of most of the hereditary 94 or 90, 92. but the hereditary 94 or 90, 92. but the point about the hereditary peers is that the royal family is it is. so is hereditary. it is. so therefore, had keep the therefore, you had to keep the hereditary to keep the hereditary peers in to keep the principle the same way principle going the same way that it seems ridiculous have that it seems ridiculous to have bishops as legislators, as of right. yet if you get a anglican bishops not roman that's right because because we are we have an established church in this country. but the danger about about chucking the bow out, apart the fact that we're apart from the fact that we're the only country outside of iran that has somebody there that actually has somebody there as of right. but if you chuck them again, take another them out again, you take another pillar from the from the pillar away from the from the monarchy. >> i chuck them out because they are so flippin irritating. >> but you you still >> but but you but you still have the monarch as as defender of the faith. and if you throw them out, we'd end up with a disestablished church. >> vote as a block against >> they vote as a block against the tories. >> yeah, but the whole thing is
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that they all attack brexit. but it what their it doesn't matter what their views are part of the views are, they are part of the institutional blocks that make that make up this country. >> kick them out. >> kick them out. >> because if you've got anglican why can't you anglican bishops, why can't you have catholic bishops? anglican bishops, why can't you havwell, catholic bishops? anglican bishops, why can't you havwell, the catholic bishops? anglican bishops, why can't you havwell, the reason: bishops? anglican bishops, why can't you havwell, the reason is ishops? anglican bishops, why can't you havwell, the reason is because >> well, the reason is because we established church, we have an established church, the our the church of england is our established church . if you want established church. if you want to disestablish it, that's fine. >> but the archbishop of canterbury given those canterbury has given those bishops bad name the bishops a very bad name in the house lords . house of lords. >> but there's no reason to pull a brick out of the constitutional framework. >> no, i agree with you, andrew. >> no, i agree with you, andrew. >> absolutely you. >> i absolutely agree with you. there's them in tanya. >> no, i'm just it's just occurring to me as we're watching these scenes. a senior age group of people within this house of lords , mostly ages house of lords, mostly ages about 70. >> thank you. 73. >> thank you. 73. >> thank you. so average age of about 73. we've got a royal family, which, you know, we've got an elderly ish king at the helm of the country. now for the younger generation , do they look younger generation, do they look at this and think, this has got
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nothing to do with me? and does that therefore mean that these sorts of institutions might be living on borrowed time ? living on borrowed time? >> i think the younger generation are disenfranchised completely from anything that goes on in britain. you know, and those that weren't before lockdown certainly are after lockdown certainly are after lockdown , and they've just lost lockdown, and they've just lost all hope and course, they're just not interested. so what we do need to do is, is to reintroduce them to it and again, in schools, they're not getting any. >> well, i mean, of course, labour are talking about giving votes to 16 year olds. >> well, that would be completely and utterly ridiculous. completely and utterly ridiculc get completely and utterly ridiculcget my head around that. cannot get my head around that. anybody who knows a year old anybody who knows a 16 year old knows no way they should knows there's no way they should be given the vote. >> but it might engage them in it might it might do just what you're we need to do, you're saying we need to do, which make them interested. >> i'm very impressed. >> i'm very impressed. >> we're going to go 16 year >> we're going to go to 16 year olds actually know more olds who actually know more about than 60 year olds. about it than 60 year olds. >> we've we've our >> we've got we've got our political editor, chris hope is at downing street at at westminster. >> aren't you this morning, chris, we're watching of
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chris, as we're watching all of this, people who might this, just for people who might be 1122, what be tuning in now, at 1122, what is the significance politically of speech of this king's speech >> well, it matters because it's the first king's speech of rishi sunak time in number 10, possibly his only one, we don't know because the polls are showing the party way behind labour.i showing the party way behind labour. i must tell you, bev and andrew, there's a very strong smell of manure here on smell of horse manure here on college. as the guards , college. green as the guards, but must be hundreds of guards out me walking past and out behind me walking past and it me back to maybe 200 it takes me back to maybe 200 years to travel in travel in westminster. but yeah , there's westminster. but yeah, there's no this is moment no question this is a big moment here for the the prime here for for the the prime minister. of long. they're minister. lots of long. they're telling term telling us it's long term choices is the for the choices is for the for the economy , for the country. economy, for the country. they're trying to weigh that against what see as a short against what they see as a short term. tends to term. keir starmer, who tends to bend his will to the mood of the people as they see it. starmer would with that would disagree with that intensely, of course, but the main highlight this whole main highlight of this whole king's moves on on king's speech is big moves on on crime and justice. they're going to be there's going to be a new
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sentencing bill. life will mean life for people convicted of murder. if there's a sexual or sadistic content , a murder. if there's a sexual or sadistic content, a criminal justice bill to force . covid justice bill to force. covid convicted criminals to face their victims in court for the first time, judges can use reasonable force. remember the lucy letby case in in that situation and a net zero bills we know to force the government to put out oil and gas licences every year. the tories will hope that if labour get in, they've got to repeal that and that might be awkward for them given theissue might be awkward for them given the issue with the energy energy price bills, other measures bans on regulations on self on smoking regulations on self driving, a football regulator for you, andrew, and i love football . football. >> chris. effectively this is the tory manifesto for the next general election, isn't it? it is certainly gearing up for that. >> what we're not seeing is tax cuts . that's in two weeks time, cuts. that's in two weeks time, the autumn statement. that's when we'll see the actual what it means for our viewers, the
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poundin it means for our viewers, the pound in their pocket, how they can be benefited. this is more of a longer term view here. the government thinks they're quite strong. they've got good strong. they've got a good record on cutting crime over the past years, recent figures past 13 years, recent figures show it's now down at an all time low. overall crime , time low. overall crime, according to the office for national statistics . and that's national statistics. and that's the point they're trying to show they choices they are making tough choices here benefit all of here that can benefit all of britain. but think the yeah, britain. but i think the yeah, no it sets the tone for no question it sets the tone for the next year. it sets the tone for mr wants his for what mr sunak wants his leadership be seen as. it leadership to be seen as. it might be his only ever king's speech of course the big speech but of course the big time, in two weeks time, i think, is in two weeks time, i think, is in two weeks time when we get to that to that autumn statement , mean, just time when we get to that to that auturrwe're:ement , mean, just time when we get to that to that auturrwe're:emeseeing|ean, just time when we get to that to that auturrwe're :eme seeing the, just chris, we're just seeing the speaken chris, we're just seeing the speaker, lindsay hoyle going speaker, sir lindsay hoyle going into house of commons. into the house of commons. >> the prime minister's there, the opposition. the leader of the opposition. what next? what well , what happens next? what well, they'll be walking through there and they'll be sat behind the bar often. >> lip readers andrew, you and i will be looking at what's being said between the two leaders. rishi sunak, keir starmer, what
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do they to each other and do they say to each other and they might pointing out they might be pointing out unusual the walk unusual gargoyles on the walk between house of commons between the house of commons chamber of lords. chamber to the house of lords. the of course, is slammed , the door, of course, is slammed, strangers are opposed, and then black roar bangs three times as loud. back in, and then that should kick start the king's speech. so lots of lots of pomp and circumstance. but below all, this is some real politics taking place . for the next five taking place. for the next five days, mps will debate the king's speech. will votes . speech. there will be votes. there may even be a vote forced by maybe the snp. as i understand on situation understand it, on the situation in gaza and whether there should be a ceasefire or not. that's awkward for the labour party , awkward for the labour party, not government. so the not for the government. so the politics starts now. the countdown for general election is kicked off by we're is kicked off by what we're seeing our tv screens now on seeing on our tv screens now on gb news nigel, there used to gb news and nigel, there used to be a small band of republican labour mps who would stay very firmly in the house of commons and would refuse go into the and would refuse to go into the house lords to have anything house of lords to have anything to do with the king's speech, because they accept the because they didn't accept the legitimacy although legitimacy of the yes, although they've oath, in fact,
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they've taken the oath, in fact, to othennise they wouldn't be >> othennise they wouldn't be able sit there. yeah, able to sit there. yeah, exactly. which was bit hypocritical. >> is there anybody that still does that now? >> i know. have to >> i don't know. we'll have to see they leave the commons. see when they leave the commons. i mean, dennis skinner was always one. yeah always the famous one. yeah where make a very where you'd always make a very witty, acerbic as witty, acerbic comment as everyone yeah, everyone trooped off. yeah, dennis no longer with dennis skinner is no longer with us, but it used us, unfortunately, but it used to very funny. we'd all to be very funny. we'd all be waiting comment waiting for that comment and rather enjoying it, yeah, rather than enjoying it, yeah, but always but there, there were always a quite republicans in the quite a few republicans in the commons. quite a few republicans in the conyes.1s. quite a few republicans in the conand1s. quite a few republicans in the conand they wouldn't go they >> and they wouldn't go they wouldn't they wait wouldn't go through. they wait for their colleagues to come back start back and they'd start the debates speech, debates on the queen's speech, which go on for the next few days. >> yeah. days. >> tanya, the bit that i really want to pay attention to is when king charles has to talk about the oil licencing bill. the oil and gas licencing bill. i'm see whether he can i'm dying to see whether he can completely the eye roll completely suppress the eye roll that he will be wanting to make at idea that the new bill at the idea that the new bill will to bid will allow companies to bid yearly new licences to drill yearly for new licences to drill for fossil fuels the north for fossil fuels in the north sea. this is not what prince king. i still say prince charles. this is not what king charles. this is not what king charles to be announcing ,
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charles wants to be announcing, is it? >> it isn't. and it's tough. yeah. and that's the reason that he doesn't have any say in this, because, know , and so i'm because, you know, and so i'm really i like you. i will really glad. i like you. i will be watching his face. let's see what a good actor is. what a good actor he is. >> has to be inscrutable. >> he has to be inscrutable. >> he has to be inscrutable. >> to be. >> he has to be. >> he has to be. >> but will he be there? >> but will he be there? >> i think he will be, yes. >> i think he will be, yes. >> i think he will be, yes. >> i think he will be be inscrutable. >> that's his job. this is this is what he's got to do. i think there'll be a little sigh. >> yeah, think might do a >> yeah, i think he might do a little sigh. >> would be my suspicion. >> would be my suspicion. >> you remember when he first >> if you remember when he first had with liz truss had an audience with liz truss and was walking him, and she was walking through him, he dear, oh dear, oh he said, oh dear, oh dear, oh dean he said, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. you remember? dear. do you remember? >> yes, i do. yes >> yes, i do. yes >> for the coronation. >> for the coronation. >> yeah. we never quite find out what what he was referring to. i imagine chaos mini—budget what what he was referring to. i imagcaused. chaos mini—budget had caused. >> let's let's just have a think about about this as well. tanya, this is going to be in there today. the offensive weapons bill. to create an bill. it's going to create an offensive carrying prohibited offensive carrying a prohibited blade intent harm. blade blade with intent to harm. that's interesting how blade blade with intent to harm. thaiyou interesting how blade blade with intent to harm. thaiyou knowresting how blade blade with intent to harm. thaiyou knowressomebodonw can you know if somebody has intent? >> you just have to if you're carrying a blade, it has to
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carrying a blade, then it has to be a given that there is intent to and so that for me, to harm. and so that for me, again, it's just a bit of rubbish. just they're rubbish. it's just they're printing without having printing things without having any to and you any any backing to them. and you know, crimes know know, these knife crimes we know are so many young are on the up. so many young people dying because people are dying because of knife if you're carrying knife crimes. if you're carrying a knife or if you're carrying anything that can cause harm, the intent has to be that you're carrying it. so therefore, there's the intent. yeah. how are going to prove any of this? >> they're also going to give police greater nigel, to police greater powers, nigel, to confiscate destroy lawfully confiscate and destroy lawfully owned knives that they have reasonable grounds to believe may be used for crime and also close loopholes around machetes and zombie knives. don't go anywhere because are anywhere because we are expecting king queen to expecting the king and queen to be any, any second now. be in here. any, any second now. >> i can see, can we call them that? >> some of the flunkies have arrived and they're now standing in of the throne, a throne in front of the throne, a throne that's part of historic part of unwritten constitution, which the king will sit on. he and which the queen graced for 70 years. >> you can sort of smell that
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room. i know we just had a little smell 0 vision from christopher hope, who talks about manure, he's in about the manure, but he's in his imperial state robe with that with the crown which he wore at the coronation >> is heavy. that's >> and that is heavy. that's about £5 in weight. it's like having small baby. having a small baby. >> it's the >> that's right. it's the imperial crown, it? imperial state crown, isn't it? >> pages holding, >> and he's got pages holding, holding his cloak, his imperial state robe, as with queen camilla, who's wearing her coronation robe as well . coronation robe as well. >> and she sits down next to him. the prime minister et al will arrive because they will black robe will bang on the door and the king is sitting down. it looks uncomfortable, doesn't it? try to get sit down, because that's heavy stuff. >> it looks extremely uncomfortable. >> and we heard earlier that the queen that state crown queen who wore that state crown in 2016 was the last time and she said she had to hold her speech up to read it as opposed to putting her head down because if she put her head down, it was so to. so heavy to. >> here he is. there we are. >> here he is. there we are. >> the king's speech is about to start. >> so .
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hundred so, so black rod , who is a very so, so black rod, who is a very senior official in the commons, has struck the door to be allowed to enter three times. >> that is with tradition. the dooris >> that is with tradition. the door is slammed shut in the face by the lords. it's a tradition . by the lords. it's a tradition. and then prime minister, the and then the prime minister, the leader and leader of the opposition and very of their very senior members of their front benches will process into the lords. not all of them can literally fit in there. they'll be few hundred and they'll be be a few hundred and they'll be leaving the house of commons shortly , mind saying as they've shortly, mind saying as they've left already actually. but the speaker will be the speaker , sir speaker will be the speaker, sir lindsay hoyle will follow and the prime minister and gang, they're all leaving right now.
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they're walking into the house of lords, rishi sunak and keir starmer, talking uncomfortably to each other . we'd love to know to each other. we'd love to know what they're talking about, what they're saying. as nigel says, they'll almost certainly be lip readers out readers employed to find out what they're about. what they're talking about. >> they're suella >> jeremy hunt they're suella braverman you walking braverman we can see you walking through. and kemi badenoch through. yeah. and kemi badenoch is there. they all get as is also there. they all get as close as they can, particularly the cabinet ministers, because of lot of the king's of course, a lot of the king's speech will to their own speech will relate to their own ministerial portfolios. >> so there's 650 mps, 800 peers, and that chamber can't fit 800 peers. so and we're looking also to see if there are any dissident republicans who may hold back and say something irreverent. but i don't think that's going to happen any more. so that's the house of commons. >> so it does appear that there are some mps who are sitting there and not getting up. >> nigel, i think this is actually a sign of disrespect for a lot of them rather than try and cram it at the back. as
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andrew just said, there's no, you can't, you can't, you can't fit in there. it is very crowded. yeah. so they sit there. it's a very speech. there. it's a very short speech. it only outlines what the it only just outlines what the bills going to then bills are going to be. then they're back and start they're all troop back and start debating , right? debating it, right? >> i can see a blue hat. i'm cunous >> i can see a blue hat. i'm curious which curious to know which mp is wearing a hat because you don't see many mps wearing hats these days it's old fashioned. days. it's very old fashioned. i think i can see theresa may who she's standing next to god help them because that'll be a difficult conversation. >> she doesn't anything and >> she doesn't say anything and we only presume that the mps we can only presume that the mps who sitting there will be who are sitting there will be watching on the gb news app. >> nigel so that they know exactly what's happening in there. back, there. when they come back, that's where should be that's where they should be doing yeah. doing to debate it. yeah. you are allowed phones in the are allowed your phones in the house commons aren't you? house of commons aren't you? was that controversial when that was that controversial when that was that controversial when that allowed. that was allowed. >> mean bear in mind, >> yeah. i mean bear in mind, the we're even watching the fact we're even watching this at all was controversial. yeah. for most of the yeah. i mean, for most of the time the house of commons has existed. not have existed. you would not have first all, it radio that first of all, it was radio that came then it was tv. there came in, then it was tv. there were fears that everyone would
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play were fears that everyone would play the camera and they did play to the camera and they did at beginning and they did at at the beginning and they did at the and still the beginning. and you still find the dough find things like the dough nutting goes if an nutting that goes on. if it's an empty chamber and debate is empty chamber and a debate is happening, cluster around happening, they cluster around so will focus on so the cameras will focus on them yeah, think it's right them. yeah, i think it's right that actually see this on that we actually see this on quite right. we do see this and we've just angela we've just seen angela rayner taking right in the taking her place right in the front row there with. >> so next to keir starmer underlining the fact she is deputy leader . now this is the deputy leader. now this is the justice secretary, alex chalk , justice secretary, alex chalk, going to hand the king's speech to the king. he's no doubt he's kneeling down in front of the . kneeling down in front of the. house of commons. >> it is mindful of a legacy of service and devotion to this country, set by my beloved mother, the late queen, on that, i deliver this the first king's speech in over 70 years. the impact of covid and the war in ukraine have created significant long term and devotion to this country set by my beloved
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mother, the late queen. on that, i deliver this. the first king's speech in over 70 years. the impact of covid and the war in ukraine on have created significant long term challenges for the united kingdom . that is for the united kingdom. that is why my government's priority is to make the difficult but necessary long term decisions to change this country for the better . my minister's focus is better. my minister's focus is on increasing economic growth and safeguarding the health and security of the british people for generations to come . my for generations to come. my government will continue to take action to bring down inflation, to ease the cost of living for families, and help businesses fund new jobs and investment . families, and help businesses fund new jobs and investment. my ministers will support the bank of england to return inflation
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to target by taking responsible decisions on spending and borrowing . these decisions will borrowing. these decisions will help household finances reduce pubuc help household finances reduce public sector debt and safeguard the financial security of the country . let legislation will be country. let legislation will be introduced to strengthen the united kingdom's energy security and reduce reliance on volatile international energy markets and hostile foreign regimes . this hostile foreign regimes. this bill will support the future licencing of new oil and gas fields , helping the country to fields, helping the country to transition to net zero by 2050 without adding undue burdens on households alongside this, my ministers will seek to attract record levels of investment in renewable energy sources , ses renewable energy sources, ses and reform grid connections,
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building on the united kingdom's track record of decarbonising faster than other g7 economies . faster than other g7 economies. my government will invest in network north to deliver faster and more reliable journeys between , between and within the between, between and within the cities and towns of the north and midlands , prioritising and midlands, prioritising improving the journeys that people make most often . my people make most often. my ministers will strengthen, educate action for the long term . these steps will be taken to ensure young people have the knowledge and skills to succeed . knowledge and skills to succeed. through the introduction of the advanced british standard that will bring technical and academic routes into a single qualification . proposals will be qualification. proposals will be implemented to reduce the number of young people studying poor quality university degrees , quality university degrees, raise and increase the number
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for undertaking high quality apprenticeships . my ministers apprenticeships. my ministers will take steps to make the economy more competitive , taking economy more competitive, taking advantage of freedoms afforded by the united kingdom's departure . departure from the departure. departure from the european union . a bill will be european union. a bill will be brought fonnard to promote trade and investment with economies in the fastest growing region in the fastest growing region in the world. my ministers will continue to negotiate trade agreements with dynamic economies , delivering jobs and economies, delivering jobs and growth in the united kingdom . my growth in the united kingdom. my ministers will introduce new legal frameworks to support the safe commercial development of emerging industries such as self—driving vehicles . introduce self—driving vehicles. introduce new competition rules for digital markets and encourage innovation in technologies such as machine learning . legislation
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as machine learning. legislation will be brought fonnard to support the creative industries and protect public interest journalism proposals will be published to reform welfare and support more people into work . support more people into work. my government will promote the integrity of the union and strengthen the social fabric of the united kingdom . working with the united kingdom. working with nhs england, my government will deliver its plans to cut waiting lists and transform the long term workforce of the national health service . this will health service. this will include delivering on the nhs workforce plan , the first long workforce plan, the first long term long term plan to train the doctors and nurses the country needs and a minimum service levels to prevent strikes from undermining patient safety . undermining patient safety. record levels of investment are
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expected , ending and expected, ending and transforming mental health services ses to ensure more people can access the support they need . my government will they need. my government will introduce legislation to create a smoke free generation by restricting the sale of tobacco so that children currently aged 14 or younger can never be sold. cigarettes and restricting the sale and marketing of e—cigarettes to children . my e—cigarettes to children. my ministers will bring fonnard a bill to reform the housing market by making it cheaper and easier for leaseholders to purchase their freehold and tackling the exploitation of millions of homeowners through punitive service charges . punitive service charges. renters will benefit from stronger security of tenure and better value, while landlords
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will benefit from reforms to provide certainty that they can regain their properties when needed. regain their properties when needed . my government will needed. my government will deliver a long term plan to regenerate towns and put local people in control of their future legislation will be brought fonnard to safeguard the future of football clubs for the benefit of communities and fans . benefit of communities and fans. a bill will be introduced to deal with the scourge of unlicensed pedicabs in . london unlicensed pedicabs in. london my government is committed to tackling anti—semitism and ensuring that the holocaust is never forgotten . a bill will never forgotten. a bill will progress the construction of a national holocaust memorial and learning centre in victoria. tower gardens . in my government
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tower gardens. in my government will will act to keep communities safe from crime. anti—social behaviour, terrorism and illegal migration in a bill will be brought fonnard to ensure tougher sentences for the most serious offenders and increase the confidence of victims . my ministers will victims. my ministers will introduce legislation to empower police forces and the criminal justice system to prevent new or complex crimes such as digital enabled crime and child sexual abuse , including grooming . at a abuse, including grooming. at a time when threats to national security are changing rapidly due to new technology , my due to new technology, my ministers will give the security and intelligence service the powers they need and will strengthen independent judicial oversight legislation will be
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introduced to protect public premises from terrorism in light of the manchester arena attack . of the manchester arena attack. my government will deliver more on the illegal migration act passed earlier this year and on international agreements to stop dangerous and illegal channel crossings and ensure it is the government , not criminal crossings and ensure it is the government, not criminal gangs . government, not criminal gangs. who decides who comes to this country ? my government will country? my government will continue to champion security around the world to invest in our gallant armed forces and to support veterans to whom so much is owed . my ministers will work is owed. my ministers will work closely with international partners offers to support ukraine in strengthen nato and address the most pressing security challenges . this security challenges. this includes the consequences of the
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barbaric acts of terrorism against the people of israel . against the people of israel. facilitating humanitaire in support into gaza and supporting the cause of peace and stability in the middle east. my government will continue to lead action on tackling climate change and biodiversity loss support developing countries with their energy transition and hold other countries to their environmental rental commitments . the united kingdom will continue to lead international discussion zones to ensure that artificial intelligence is developed safely . my government developed safely. my government will host it. the global investment summit . the european investment summit. the european political community entity, and the energy conference leading global conversations on the
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united kingdom's most pressing challenges . i united kingdom's most pressing challenges. i look united kingdom's most pressing challenges . i look fonnard to challenges. i look fonnard to welcoming his excellency the president of the republic of korea and mrs. kim keun hee for a state visit later this month . a state visit later this month. my government will in all respects seek to make long term decisions in the interests of future generations . as my future generations. as my ministers will address inflation and the drivers of low growth and the drivers of low growth and over demands for greater spending or borrowing . my spending or borrowing. my ministers will put the security of communities and the nation ahead of the rights of those who endanger it . ahead of the rights of those who endanger it. by taking these long term decisions. my government will change this country and build a better future . members of the . house of future. members of the. house of commons estimates for the public
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services will be laid before you . my lords and members of the house of commons. other measures will be laid before you . i pray will be laid before you. i pray that the blessing of almighty god may rest upon your counsels . >> so that was about 15 minutes, i think. the king's speech his first one as as monarch , the first one as as monarch, the justice secretary, alex chalk , justice secretary, alex chalk, just removed the speech . i mean, just removed the speech. i mean, walked backwards down those
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steps . no easy feat, nigel. steps. no easy feat, nigel. >> no, it's not. they do practise this an awful lot to save. collapsing. yeah but you know, it is difficult . and also, know, it is difficult. and also, i mean the pages have to actually who are around them. we often see a page faint during these ceremonies because they're all so incredibly hot and their costumes . costumes. >> he was inscrutable . we were >> he was inscrutable. we were speculating before the speech as to whether he would give anything away, tanya, about his feelings on these issues . he didn't. >> he didn't. i was watching i was watching for a twitch of an eyebrow. just something. nothing. was perfect. nothing. he was he was perfect. >> well, he's an old pro, isn't he? he is. >> and he's been waiting long enough. >> he certainly has. >> he certainly has. >> he's had a he's had the longest apprenticeship to be a king the history of the king in the history of the country. exactly. country. yeah, exactly. >> did. >> watching. and he did. >> watching. and he did. >> is remarkable, isn't >> and it is remarkable, isn't it, that he doesn't have the most dynamic delivery. he's no great he's certainly great orator. he's certainly no performance him to performance element to him to some yet we do hang some degree. and yet we do hang on his every word . on an on his every word. on an occasion like that, you could
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hear a pin drop in there. >> yes, you could. >> yes, you could. >> i mean, you're absolutely right. i think that the whole point about the king's is point about the king's speech is that be great that it's not meant to be great oratory. is really just oratory. he is really just reading out a selection of things that are going to happen over year . and what you over the next year. and what you noficeisits over the next year. and what you notice is it's all very vague. there was no kind of detail in there that can't get any there that you can't get any detail in 15 minutes anyway. the one thing that really stands out from it is how often he used the phrase long term decision . this phrase long term decision. this was very much rishi sunak theme at the tory party conference, and you can see that is the way that the general election will be will be couched . but stick be will be couched. but stick with me and i'll look after you in the long term. this kind of rishi sunak message and trying to say that he is not just short term, which is what so much of politics about. term, which is what so much of polyes. about. >> yes. >> yes. >> that he's he's looking at the long term. it's all he's got left, really. i mean, they've been there for 13 years. so you can't oh, i've suddenly can't say, oh, i've suddenly got an we should have had an idea that we should have had five this stick five years ago this is stick with me and i'll look after you
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through the next ten years. that's message and that's the kind of message and conspicuous that there was no mention of home secretary mention of the home secretary and and homeless people. and tents and homeless people. well no, there wasn't, actually. there was a mention of. and i wonder if that was deliberately inserted was about supporting veterans. now, of course, an awful lot of veterans end up living on the streets and actually need tents to get some get some cover there. so i wondered if that had been inserted as a kind of snub to the home secretary to make of her saying it's a lifestyle choice to be homeless. >> well, you know, i don't think it's a lifestyle choice for everybody, but it definitely is for you know, we see it because, >> you know, we see it because, you know, there's local bank you know, there's a local bank in and the bank staff in my area and the bank staff have to actually wait for the people to pay. >> so just sorry to interrupt you, tanya. are looking at you, tanya. we are looking at the mps, the speaker of the house of commons, sir lindsay hoyle, there, hoyle, walking ahead there, filtering into the commons. filtering back into the commons. what happens now ? what happens now? >> the debate will start the debate immediately . immediately. debate immediately. immediately. the yes. the king's speech. yes.
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>> all business is >> i mean, all other business is put aside. yeah. and so what happens now for the rest of the week? five days, isn't it? yes. and it'll go into next week. they will actually debate the king's speech. so what you get next is all the mps will be will be supplied. now with a fairly hefty chunk of briefing notes. so they know what these various bills are. yeah and they will then be debated and order over then be debated and order over the next few days. >> the debate will go on tonight till 10:00 and it will be open by the prime minister and the leader of the opposition. >> yes. yes, that's right. >> yes. yes, that's right. >> and of course, it's not it's not such a difficult speech for the leader of the opposition because it has been because so much of it has been trailed advance. trailed in advance. >> we're watching jeremy hunt there. think it was rachel there. i think it was rachel reeves chatting reeves that he was chatting to the the shadow chancellor. >> yeah, he's chatting, chatting as she's going as they think she's going to be the first woman chancellor of the first woman chancellor of the exchequer, think, as they the exchequer, i think, as they come you think she will be the >> do you think she will be the first woman chancellor of the exchequer? >> feeling the rishi >> i've a feeling that the rishi sunak going to sack jeremy
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sunak is going to sack jeremy hunt or move him in a reshuffle before the election and a before the election and make a woman called claire coutinho, who secretary, who is the energy secretary, chancellor so chancellor of the exchequer, so that tories can say we the that the tories can say we the first leader. that's first woman leader. that's certainly rumour. certainly the rumour. >> the rumour >> that's certainly the rumour in westminster. >> jeremy hunt >> do you think jeremy hunt knows that he does now? >> i think does. well, >> oh, i think he does. well, he's he's had a long spell he's had he's had a long spell as chancellor, well. as chancellor, as well. >> liz truss made him >> he knew liz truss made him chancellor. is that claire coutinho there isn't it? >> i think just walked >> i think she's just walked through with dress and >> i think she's just walked thropuppy th dress and >> i think she's just walked thropuppy she's dress and >> i think she's just walked thropuppy she's a dress and >> i think she's just walked thropuppy she's a supporter and >> i think she's just walked thropuppy she's a supporter of.i the puppy she's a supporter of. >> an mp in >> she only became an mp in 2019, it would be an 2019, so it would be an extraordinary so extraordinary elevation in so quickly. but look, she'd only have months the job. >> well, that's right. >> well, that's right. >> not much time to screw it up, nigel. >> well, i don't know. i mean, liz truss managed much shorter liz truss managed a much shorter time. yeah. >> so the mps well, they are >> so the mps are well, they are disappearing behind the speakers disappearing behind the speaker's them speaker's chair. some of them are and speaker's chair. some of them are do and speaker's chair. some of them are do you and speaker's chair. some of them are do you think and speaker's chair. some of them are do you think labour and speaker's chair. some of them are do you think labour mps what do you think labour mps will by the content will be worried by the content of speech? of the speech? >> i think there's >> nigel no, i think there's very little that, first of very little in it that, first of all didn't know about and it all we didn't know about and it has this the same sort of idea that this government's been around for 13 years as it's rather tired and the 13 year
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penod rather tired and the 13 year period is really the time we need change. >> margaret thatcher lasted 13 years. labour lasted 13 years. new labour lasted 13 years. new labour lasted 13 years. we've got to the point now where i think people are saying, let's give give another lot a go. >> just to point out one of the things that our viewers have got in with to say as well, in touch with to say as well, she makes a very good point, which actually steve sorry, which is actually steve sorry, steve, i misgendered you there. all know say that all the people i know say that rishi was put there rishi sunak was put there by politicians not the members. politicians and not the members. we that he an unalloyed we feel that he is an unalloyed acted it's to easy acted leader. it's to easy forget that, tanya, isn't it? but a lot of people there but a lot of people out there have forgotten that. have not forgotten that. >> it's not easy to forget >> no, it's not easy to forget because i completely with because i completely agree with that. elect for him. that. we didn't elect for him. >> neither did the conservative party did not, nor did the mps >> they did not, nor did the mps come to think of it, he he became prime minister without a single being cast by anybody. >> it was by in the same way gordon brown that's right. gordon brown yes, that's right. >> yeah. yeah >> yeah. yeah >> so i think that's >> so but i think that's important to people when you hear from viewers getting in touch didn't vote for touch to say, we didn't vote for him, that i was going to him, does that i was going to say, does it suggest we need a
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different leader for the conservative party before the next election, but not another one, not another one? >> the reality is that >> and the reality is, is that you that they're going >> and the reality is, is that yo be that they're going >> and the reality is, is that yo be debatinglat they're going >> and the reality is, is that yo be debatinglat tiking'sgoing >> and the reality is, is that yo be debatinglat tiking's speech to be debating the king's speech now for the next five days, which it's i i love which again, it's i mean, i love the pomp ceremony. i think the pomp and ceremony. i think it's should the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop should the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop and should the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop and go should the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop and go backihould the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop and go back to uld the pomp and ceremony. i think it's stop and go back to the now stop and go back to the business running the country. business of running the country. i that takes too i think that takes too long. i don't want to them debating don't want to hear them debating the as said, the king's speech, as we said, had leaked and had been leaked before and everybody the everybody knew about it. the next five days, we've got so much be getting on with. much more to be getting on with. and where think it very and that's where i think it very much . much ruined. >> feels the starting >> it feels like the starting gun , though, this, doesn't it, gun, though, this, doesn't it, nigel? between now the next nigel? between now and the next election , that's what i felt as election, that's what i felt as he wrapped up that speech. and as andrew said, this is this is the conservative party manifesto as andrew said, this is this is tiwe've servative party manifesto as andrew said, this is this is ti we've serve effectively m anifesto as andrew said, this is this is tiwe've serve effectively heard lsto . we've just effectively heard this is the start of the countdown for me. well i hope this is the start of the coun have] for me. well i hope this is the start of the coun have somele. well i hope this is the start of the coun have some moreell i hope this is the start of the coun have some more surprises in they have some more surprises in the manifesto. >> they really will be >> othennise they really will be in trouble. >> the autumn statement, >> we have the autumn statement, of course, got weeks of course, we've got two weeks time the whole time when in fact, the whole cost thing will be cost of living thing will be addressed, will interesting. >> talk tax >> and they'll talk about tax cuts or not. >> i they they will >> i think they will. they will
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not tax cuts. not talk about tax cuts. assuming jeremy hunt is still chancellor that point, chancellor at that point, tax cuts would would a really cuts would be would be a really badidea. cuts would be would be a really bad idea . well, inflation is bad idea. well, inflation is still bad idea. well, inflation is stilcan i have your prediction? >> can i have your prediction? >> can i have your prediction? >> i agree with that. sorry i mean, need help. people need mean, we need help. people need help. and help. they need tax cuts. and that's conservatives do. that's what conservatives do. and about they did and it's about time they did what it says on the tape. >> and taxes are at a 70 year high. yeah they really are. can can i think we're to going speak to our political editor, christopher hope, who at christopher hope, who is at westminster for. >> good morning, christopher. again if you can. i think we're not going to have you in vision because we are waiting for the live pictures of the king and queen the of queen leaving the house of lords. can lords. but i believe you can hear me. christopher it was a very delivery from king very measured delivery from king charles. major surprises this charles. no major surprises this is what does. he just went is what he does. he just went through the motions and did what he had do . i that's right. he had to do. i that's right. >> bev. i've been looking at the detail of the king's speech. 21 bills in total, a quarter to five of them on law and order are sentencing. bill, we knew about bill about the criminal justice bill new powers to tackle complex and
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economic crime to force criminals to hear their sentencing court victims and prisoners bill to improve the system for victims. give an interesting give give ministers the right to intervene when murderers , rapists, terrorists murderers, rapists, terrorists are released on parole. a big issue. we know, don't we? go on gb news. find ministers, get a chance to stop people being released by parole boards , released by parole boards, terrorism protection and premises. bill that's martin's law. don't forget the manchester arena attack in 2017 that require big arenas and other big places to have a have an idea what to do if there's a terrorism attack and the investigatory powers bill that's amending , that's giving more amending, that's giving more powers to spooks in the detail elsewhere. i've been reading about the automated vehicles bill. absolutely fascinating. for example , now under new law, for example, now under new law, if you're in in a car, a self—drive vehicle and it has a crash, you won't be liable for that. the company that owns it will be. that is fascinating. i think there'll be immunity from prosecution. be in charge prosecution. you'll be in charge of the car in your of loading the car in your nissan micra andrew you'll have
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to load it to make sure you load it properly etcetera it's properly etcetera if it's self—drive there'll don't self—drive there'll be we don't know about the offshore licencing and the annual licencing bill and the annual annual oil and licencing annual oil and gas licencing rounds, a major bill to modernise the mission statement of bbc. that could be of the bbc. now that could be very, very political going to an election year on brexit, there's a trade, there's a trade comprehensive and progressive agreement for the trans—pacific partnership that will give asia pacific countries the right. the right to bid for uk government measures. it will also allow companies here to have access to canadian markets. japanese markets, peru, malaysia and brunei. so lots of talk about in the king's speech . the king's speech. >> christopher, it's stephen and pip with everyone now right through till 3:00. as you say , through till 3:00. as you say, it is quite sort of a packed thing to discuss over the next five days or so for the house of commons. but what do you make of some of the legal stuff, a quarter of the of the legislation outline ? and is any
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legislation outline? and is any of that stuff substantial or is it just sort of vote winning headune it just sort of vote winning headline grabbers . headline grabbers. >> well, now you're far too cynical for me, stephen. i think this is a government said its agenda for the next year. of course. now of course you're right. i mean, it's all about the election next year. the government does feel it's got a chance on criminal justice with crime to a record crime down, down to a record low, to the office for low, according to the office for national statistics, think national statistics, they think they home that they can drive home that advantage they telling advantage. they they are telling us government, that advantage. they they are telling us prime government, that advantage. they they are telling us prime ministerlment, that advantage. they they are telling us prime minister sayst, that advantage. they they are telling us prime minister sayst, this the prime minister says in his foreword king's how foreword to king's speech how they're clear they're trying to make clear that they're making for that they're making choices for the long they do see keir the long term. they do see keir starmer as a labour leader who will move with the public and pubuc will move with the public and public opinion doesn't believe will move with the public and pu much jinion doesn't believe will move with the public and pumuch .nion doesn't believe will move with the public and pu much . he1 doesn't believe will move with the public and pumuch . he would1't believe will move with the public and pumuch . he would of believe will move with the public and pumuch . he would of course�* in much. he would of course completely disagree with that, but government's but that's the government's chance. chance , chance. this is their chance, really, almost big pr really, almost their big pr chance set their agenda chance to set out their agenda for year running into for the next year running into the election. lots in the general election. lots in there. i think this offshore petroleum licencing bill is called the net zero bill in shorthand in westminster that will that will force labour if
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they win win power next year to repeal that. if they want to tackle the issue of oil and gas licences. they're trying to find ways to cause labour problems in the next year. but the criminal justice stuff, i think that's what i think really leaps out. you've got a quarter of the bills, five measures here looking at all sorts, all sorts of areas to track down and make it much easier for victims to be able better in able to have a better voice in the system . the system. >> chris it's pip. hello. we are a year away from the general election and all this sounds to many people very impressive on papen many people very impressive on paper, but how much of it are we actually going to see? >> how much of it in reality will be enacted ? and will be enacted? and >> well, i think the scale of the different measures does seem quite targeted . so often you quite targeted. so often you have these what they call christmas tree bills in parliament where they attach everything to them. get everything to them. they get bogged down. they can't get past the of end of the term of the end of end of the term of this of next parliament.
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this of this next parliament. i think looks they quite think it looks they look quite focussed. the sentencing bill, for example, talks about focussed. the sentencing bill, for nwillrple, talks about focussed. the sentencing bill, for will mean talks about focussed. the sentencing bill, for will mean lifeilks about focussed. the sentencing bill, for will mean life the about focussed. the sentencing bill, for will mean life the most: life will mean life the most serious the criminal serious offences. the criminal justice bill, for example, means a new powers to tackle economic crime that the issue lucy crime that the issue of lucy letby remember her when she wouldn't be face her sentencing or her victims in court. there'll be required in future by judges will be given powers. as we revealed on gb news back in september force people in september to force people like lucy letby to hear justice for the first time. and that's the . they're trying to put the point. they're trying to put themselves of themselves on the side of victims. why it's victims. and that's why it's a big winning big election or a vote winning measure here. hard to see how labour would argue against that. the and prisoners, bill, the victims and prisoners, bill, very important. they're giving ministers overrule ministers the right to overrule parole boards if they released serious criminals for the first time elected ministers can step in in the most serious cases, the rapists, murderers and terrorists. that's very important because because, of course, we've been talking of gb news a lot about soft justice. that's a way to deal with that. this hat, this martin's law. martin hat, of course , he a victim of
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of course, he was a victim of the manchester arena attack in 2017. measures to improve 2017. we measures to improve pubuc 2017. we measures to improve public public places require a bigger arena to know what to do in a case of a terrorist attack and more powers for spooks. i think this it is quite a good measure. i think they are going to appeal, i think, to people the want to appeal to, the tories want to appeal to, they will have rigorously tested this groups. think this in focus groups. i think it might other measures, of might work. other measures, of course, as football course, as the football governance bill that will provide regulator for the provide a new regulator for the top five divisions, there's measures on on public sector broadcast ing that will that will be on the bbc. i think that will be on the bbc. i think that will be on the bbc. i think that will be that will see it'll be a quite a contested space going into an election period. as i say, this self—drive bill, i find absolutely fascinating. for the first time, according to the notes attached to the king's speech, if you're on a self—drive vehicle and there's a crash, it's not your fault . it's crash, it's not your fault. it's the company in charge of that vehicle. that's fascinating. you'll be in charge of loading it and dealing it that way. but i think the whole idea we are seeing elements here of what
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