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>> it is 9:00. i'm mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. should the weekend's pro—palestinian march on armistice day go ahead. the jury is still out, but one thing is for sure, the demonstrate haters have lost all moral authority. that's next. in my big opinion, i'm not pulling my punches. then i'll get the views of my top panel this evening. we're travelling business class, christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew lazar , plus tv and matthew lazar, plus tv comedy legend jim davidson, who has devoted his life and career to military causes . he joins me to military causes. he joins me live to give his verdict. also tonight, we'll be joined by a desperate israeli woman whose mother and brother were taken by hamas on october the 7th. she's begging for their return and she shares her devastating story shortly . also on the way, suella shortly. also on the way, suella braverman crackdown on the homeless sleeping in tents provoked widespread outrage. but
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not from the prime minister so are the government right to stop britain's cities turning into a san francisco hellscape .7 deputy san francisco hellscape.7 deputy tory chairman lee anderson mounts a defence of his colleagues, plus he'll react to the shocking news that carol vorderman has been axed by the bbc. but why not saint gary lineker.7 as always , we'll bring lineker.7 as always, we'll bring you tomorrow's newspaper front pages. you tomorrow's newspaper front pages . and i'll be asking pages. and i'll be asking legendary journalist tom bower if rishi sunak has already conceded the next election, has rishi thrown the towel in.7 this is gb news tonight. this is one of my last two shows in this monday to thursday slot, so don't miss a second and don't miss my big opinion on how i wouldn't dream of going on those hate filled pro palestine marches because of the optics.
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that's in two minutes time. first, the news headlines and polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you. and good evening to you. well, the top story tonight from the gb newsroom is that the prime minister has welcomed assurances from the metropolitan police that the pro—palestinian march planned for this weekend during the nation's annual period of remembrance will be routed away from the cenotaph in london. rishi sunak has been speaking with the met police chief. sir mark rowley today amid concerns the march could interfere with remembrance commemorations . in remembrance commemorations. in a statement, the prime minister though, described the planned march as still being disrespectful and offensive. the london mayor sadiq khan, said the policing of protest shouldn't be permitted . google shouldn't be permitted. google and the met insisted it is keeping the weekend's events under constant review, but there was a warning from the transport secretary, mark harper, who said
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sir mark rowley will be held accountable for any disruption . accountable for any disruption. >> this is the operational response ability of the commissioner of the metropolitan police. the legal powers are his to request that he has to make a judgement based on the all of the factors that he has to take into account. and as the prime minister said, it's the met's responsibility to make sure the march goes off safely and we'll hold him to account for that. >> mark harper well, the rafah crossing between gaza and egypt was closed tonight because of security concerns , but the security concerns, but the foreign office says more than 150 british nationals did manage to leave gaza last night . it to leave gaza last night. it comes as the israeli military says hamas has lost control in northern gaza as thousands of residents move south. israel says it won't reoccupy the gaza strip or control it for an extended period of time . and the extended period of time. and the welsh parliament here has called for an immediate ceasefire in gaza and israel . 24 members of
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gaza and israel. 24 members of the senate voting in favour of the senate voting in favour of the motion, 19 against it. the senate voting in favour of the motion, 19 against it . now, the motion, 19 against it. now, here at home, a war memorial in greater manchester is still being guarded by police tonight after protesters sprayed free palestine graffiti right across its base. great manchester police said that cenotaph in rochdale was vandalised , poppies rochdale was vandalised, poppies were removed and currently it's a crime scene . both the police a crime scene. both the police and rochdale council have condemned the vandalism as criminal disrespect, which is totally unacceptable . now, a 15 totally unacceptable. now, a 15 year old boy who died after a stabbing near a school in leeds has been named tonight as alfie lewis, west yorkshire police say emergency services were called to horsforth yesterday afternoon. police have launched afternoon. police have launched a murder investigation with one arrest of a teenage boy. alfie's family say he was 1 in 1,000,000 and he had the biggest heart. now the government's long
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running dispute with rail unions that's led to widespread train strikes over recent months may soon be over. that's after talks between the rail delivery group and the rmt union, a plan has now been set out in what's been described as a mutually agreed way forward. it includes a pay rise back dated to 2022 and job security guarantees. the rmt says it's a welcome development . says it's a welcome development. members now have to vote on whether or not to accept the offer on tv , online, dab+ radio offer on tv, online, dab+ radio and on the tunein app and ride across europe via satellite. this is . gb news. good evening. this is. gb news. good evening. >> has it come to this that our police are now so ineffectual , police are now so ineffectual, so afraid to offend, so willing to accommodate behaviour which is an affront to our values and our history that they have to
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beg pro—palestine protesters not to descend on central london this weekend as we remember our war dead . welcome to the clown war dead. welcome to the clown world of 2023, where the authorities have to beg for things . wow. now whilst many of things. wow. now whilst many of these demonstrations march in peace and have understandable concerns about innocent civilians in gaza, concerns is shared by most of us. time and again, these events have turned nasty with the chanting of hateful slogans. calls for a holy war and the wiping out of israel . the only democracy in israel. the only democracy in the middle east being on their bill of fare . much of the press bill of fare. much of the press look ready to label anyone planning to defend the cenotaph this weekend or stand up against the demonstrations as far right extremists . now there could be extremists. now there could be some bad actors looking to capitalise on this tense situation, which i wholeheartedly condemn. however, those that wish to see remembrance weekend acknowledged
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with respect and quiet dignity come from all backgrounds, all races , all religions and races, all religions and nationalities , all parts of our nationalities, all parts of our society . and let me tell you, society. and let me tell you, they are not far right extremes . they are not far right extremes. it's and where is the condemnation of hamas on these marches .7 they are, of course, marches.7 they are, of course, the ultimate extremists. i haven't seen one placard calling for the return of israeli hostages where is the outrage on these marches that according to israel defence forces , as hamas israel defence forces, as hamas have placed their headquarter was in the basement of a hospital . while there are hospital. while there are reports that there using ambulances to transport armaments and that in recent days they've planted booby traps in nurseries in gaza nurseries whilst i'm deeply worried about the innocent people in gaza, i wouldn't dream of going on one of these marches for fear that i could be seen to support taught the horrors being perpetrated by these twisted extremists . so if
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these twisted extremists. so if you're listening, bbc, these terrorists , just by dint of terrorists, just by dint of their proven links to hamas, these marches contain in the dna of hate and the dna of terror andifs of hate and the dna of terror and it's a sick joke that these marches were provoked not by a concern for the plight of palestinians. they are hamas's ultimate victims , of course. no, ultimate victims, of course. no, these marches came about after israel was the one being attacked . meanwhile, this is attacked. meanwhile, this is what a peaceful protest looks like . a vigil also in central like. a vigil also in central london for the victims of october the seventh, 200 of whom remain captive in gaza, including children in many on these pro—palestine marches. meanwhile and they come from a good place . they want peace. we good place. they want peace. we all do. but they risk becoming hamas's useful idiots and the timing of the marches this weekend is profoundly disrespectful . if we allow disrespectful. if we allow individuals to call for a holy war on the streets of london and the wiping out of one group of
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people because of their religion or race in a direct echo of hitler's fascism, what exactly did our soldiers lay their lives down for those planning to march this weekend, can take a hike now. what's your reaction, mark, at cbnnews.com. let's get the views of author and broadcaster christine hamilton, businessman and activist adam brooks and former labour party adviser matthew lanza. can i start with you, christine .7 what do you you, christine? what do you think about these marches at the weekend? i wouldn't want to go on one because i wouldn't want to linked to terror. to be linked to terror. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> you've summed it up >> i think you've summed it up brilliantly. everybody in this country defends of speech. >> pm >> we all do. >> we all do. >> and we all know about voltaire. you know, he would lay down the freedom down his life for the freedom of somebody else to say what he profoundly disagrees with. we all this has all understand that this has gone far. gone too far. >> freedom speech has to be >> freedom of speech has to be limited. >> it's not absolute. >> it's not absolute. >> the freedoms of one >> and the freedoms of one clashed with the freedoms of another. and when they clash, there has to be a decision. and
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it's a political decision as to which takes precedence. which freedom takes precedence. and in this country, to me, the precedent should be taken by the people who support british culture. british way of life, british tradition of mourning their dead, respecting their dead. their dead, respecting their dead . et cetera. et cetera. and dead. et cetera. et cetera. and for what's his name? mark rowley. it's so mealy mouthed for him to say there's no reason to cancel this march . there is to cancel this march. there is every reason to cancel this march. the fact is, you emphasised that he begged them to change it. what an idiot. what on earth did he think they were going to do? and i think it is so disrespectful. they've had was it 2 or 3 saturdays where they've been marching? they didn't have to do it this this one. you've just said, one. and as you've just said, a lot of the people marching will be concerns about be genuinely with concerns about palestine. but they must know perfectly well they are useful idiots. they must know perfectly well that this is hamas inspired and the leaders of this march amongst them will be the leaders of hamas . of hamas. >> not although you can't say, can you, that people that are
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pro palestine are necessarily against british values. we've got no proof that that's the case. >> no, of course i haven't. but what is on offer here are two different there's a choice between the freedom of normal . i between the freedom of normal. i mean, decades ago it would be unthinkable that anything interfered with remembrance day. our whole culture has changed and the balance of the culture has changed. and i'm afraid if that march goes ahead, which i fear it will, it shows that the other side are winning. well, it is disrespectful of british culture. >> i don't know about other side or them and us in regards to this, adam, because i just wonder whether what we're seeing with these marches is quite a british thing, which is the right to protest it. >> there should always i've been on protests, there should always be the right for peaceful protest. what i disagree with here is that there is a public safety issue issue. there will be trouble. it's obvious how mark rowley seems to think that
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it's going to go ahead without any incident. he's living in cloud cuckoo land at the end of the day. in 2011, the english defence league edl were stopped from marching on safety grounds because there was known troublemakers , was attending . troublemakers, was attending. the metropolitan police put a stop to that ? why can't they put stop to that? why can't they put a stop to this ? in recent weeks a stop to this? in recent weeks we have seen placards calling for the destruction of a democratic ally in the world. we have seen placards mocking with paragliders , mocking people that paragliders, mocking people that were killed at a peace festival, a peace festival . these weren't a peace festival. these weren't israeli soldiers or people that are supporting israel . there was are supporting israel. there was at a peace festival , some of at a peace festival, some of them foreigners, not even they were massacred. right now, i don't know what sort of human you have to be. you know, i don't care if i don't like someone i would never wish death on anyone. and it really does upset me that on our streets we have got pictures of paragliders taking taking the mickey out of
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this atrocity. and police just standing there, you know , hate standing there, you know, hate speech threats call for jihad. our police do nothing. that's fireworks . they are frightened. fireworks. they are frightened. fireworks towards the police. but in 2011, they had the balls then to stop the english defence league doing their protest because there would be trouble. this is no different. >> come on, matthew . you know, >> come on, matthew. you know, possibly the majority of people on these marches just want peace and they're worried about women, men and children dying in gaza as we speak. there's a death toll that could be in excess of 7 or 8000 people. hospitals are overflowing this weekend. have they got not a right to speak out about that? >> no, because nobody has people have got a right to speak out at any time on anything. but it's how you speak out that matters. and clearly this weekend , which and clearly this weekend, which is a weekend of remembrance of all those who died british and others in the world wars and including by british, all those from the british commonwealth empire, as it then was,
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including many muslims from what's now pakistan and bangladesh, which was then part of india, which provided tens of hundreds of thousands of forces in both world wars. so it's all about appropriateness. and the other thing is , is anybody who other thing is, is anybody who cares about gaza , these protests cares about gaza, these protests are not doing any good. they haven't changed the british. they're changing public opinion. they're changing public opinion. they're opinion they're hardening public opinion against gaza. so they are having literally the opposite effect of what they did earlier today. i was bus stop in was stood at a bus stop in central and it broke my central london, and it broke my heart to see still travelling by bus. i am a man of the people. can we have a whip round man of the people? >> matthew, car. >> matthew, get a car. >> matthew, get a car. >> frightened to travel anyway. >> anyway. on. but this bus. >> i knew you'd say you're a man of the people. i a man of the people. and at this bus stop were the tattered remains of the posters of missing women and children been clearly children that had been clearly been point been torn down at some point over recent days, maybe on the day of the protest itself. i mean, know, that's that's day of the protest itself. i metthat's know, that's that's day of the protest itself. i metthat's not ow, that's that's day of the protest itself. i metthat's not associating|at's not that's not associating yourself with peace. so anybody
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who about gaza, there are who cares about gaza, there are lots things do lots of things you can do without going on march, which are march march are dominated march this march likely released. likely won't get released. >> this march likely won't >> this this march likely won't be cenotaph. and be close to the cenotaph. and also , might you not cause more also, might you not cause more trouble you don't allow the trouble if you don't allow the march? at the end of the day, >> look at the end of the day, again, on public safety again, it's on public safety grounds. i believe there's going to hotspots around to be trouble in hotspots around london. are veterans london. there are veterans attending various ceremonies throughout london. it's not just the cenotaph there all over the place . now, you are going to place. now, you are going to have say , and across the have say, and across the country, a few hundred thousand people on all different tube lines and coming there be lines and coming there will be clashes. unfortunate and it is disrespectful . now, again, we disrespectful. now, again, we all want i think i speak for most people. i would like peace in the middle east to see bombed communities in gaza , kids dying, communities in gaza, kids dying, women that upsets me, too. okay. at the end of the day, there cannot be peace when you are trying to negotiate with a terrorist group that are still calling for the destruction of a democratic country. how can you
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talk to barbarians like that that are just going to massacre kids and they cannot? >> the record of the sorry, christine, the record on the met is just unbelievable because as you said about the edl protest, let's ourselves back just a let's take ourselves back just a couple years to the sarah couple of years to the sarah everard protest. when the met broke a group of women broke up a group of women holding somebody who holding a vigil for somebody who was by a member of the was murdered by a member of the metropolitan force. and metropolitan police force. and yet not tell the yet they have to not tell the these protests not to go to the cenotaph. they have to beg. it's pathetic. and it adds to the crisis that the met is in. >> christine, you get the last word. >> well, i think i said earlier the police i think they're scared. i think they're frightened. >> and frankly, and they feel outnumbered. >> and frankly, and they feel out well,ared. >> and frankly, and they feel out well, they are >> and frankly, and they feel outwell, they are outnumbered. >> well, they are outnumbered. and if you were and imagine if you were a policewoman. i've seen or of policewoman. i've seen 1 or 2 of the policewomen, of them the policewomen, some of them are tall. they're not big. are not tall. they're not big. yeah. being yeah. and you imagine being surrounded by this. >> you and i are old enough to remember tall coppers, aren't we? >> we ea- m.- mum >> we are. and you had to be fairly tall to get into the police. so i think. think he's police. so i think. i think he's fit, frankly. >> okay. >> okay.
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>> sorry, mark. just one. go for it. the viewers need to be reminded these marches, reminded that these marches, some of the organisers are unked some of the organisers are linked the former linked to hamas and the former hamas that in hamas leader that lives in london council local london in a council house, local oxfam where they're oxfam shop, where they're collecting gaza. collecting for gaza. >> don't go on. >> don't go on. >> so think on that on that >> so i think on that on that grounds, the police should say, look, there's too many bad actors involved. look, there's too many bad actors involvweekend above all >> and this weekend above all else armistice and the else is about armistice and the whole weekend, day and whole weekend, armistice day and armistice sunday. and it is totally disrespectful that they even want to march anywhere in london on. well, it's saturday. >> it does seem like my brilliant panel are united in their condemnation of these marches with the suggestion perhaps that they shouldn't be happening. i i don't think you can ban them, but i think they should be policed correctly. but what's view? mark what's your view? mark gbnews.com. to come, gb news.com. still to come, suella gbnews.com. still to come, suella braverman crackdown on the sleeping in tents the homeless sleeping in tents provoked widespread outrage , but provoked widespread outrage, but not the prime minister so not from the prime minister so are the government right to stop britain's cities turning into a san francisco hellscape? deputy chairman of the conservative party lee anderson is live in the studio to hit back at the
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home secretary's critics . yes, home secretary's critics. yes, but up, i'm joined by but next up, i'm joined by a desperate israeli woman whose mother and brother were taken by hamas on october the 7th. her brother has already been killed . brother has already been killed. she's begging for the return of her relatives and she shares her devastating story
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weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel. britain's news channel . news channel. >> well, a big reaction to my big opinion. mark
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gbviews@gbnews.com. richard says , dear mark, i would let the marches go ahead and see all the undoubted trouble. then fire rowley, who is the met chief police and revisit it. multiculturalism in this country . see, margaret's not happy, she said . the marches on armistice said. the marches on armistice day must be banned. this is our country. we make our laws . they country. we make our laws. they must be obeyed or else get out. and sarah says, hi, mark. it's all about respect . why on earth all about respect. why on earth should anyone support their right to peaceful protest , if right to peaceful protest, if you can call it that, when they're showing utter disrespect for our ancestors and veterans who fought for their rights to peacefully protest? i think this will be a turning point for people , says sarah. those people, says sarah. keep those emails coming. market gbnews.com read wall rottweiler lee anderson coming up shortly. plus, comedy legend jim davidson. but first, it's easy to get lost behind the headlines and statistics around the middle
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east. atrocities and stray from the unimaginable human suffering that's actually taking place . my that's actually taking place. my next guest is a british israeli woman whose elderly mother and older brother were kidnapped by hamas terrorists from their home on october the seventh. while deaung on october the seventh. while dealing with the horror and anguish at not knowing what has happened to them, i let zavatsky has also been suffering the heartbreak of finding her other brother, roy murdered behind his house by by the death cult . house by by the death cult. chillingly, hamas terrorists posted on her mother cannot facebook page a picture of her sitting alongside islets brother nadav with terrorist s standing in the background. the last update she received was a report from a neighbour who saw her mother and brother being taken as hostages. worryingly, the pair , who are being held captive pair, who are being held captive by hamas are diabetic and in need of insulin injections and
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pills to be taken regularly. well, ayelet joins me now. thank you so much for being with us. can you tell me what happened on . saturday, october the 7th ? . saturday, october the 7th? >> so, first of all, thank you so much for having me , uh, so much for having me, uh, having our voices heard means so much to us. um, october seventh was a saturday. i woke up at 8:00 in the morning. i heard my husband on the phone, which is pretty unusual. so early in the morning on a shabbat. pretty unusual. so early in the morning on a shabbat . uh, and he morning on a shabbat. uh, and he said something bad is happening in the south. um you should call your mom urgently . so i grabbed your mom urgently. so i grabbed my phone, and just as i opened it, i saw my whatsapp group that ihave it, i saw my whatsapp group that i have with all my childhood friends . um just absolutely friends. um just absolutely blast with messages. and i've learned that it was a terrorist attack on the kibbutz missiles
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and the ground invasion . so and the ground invasion. so i immediately called my mom and told her, go in the safe room, lock the safe room . don't let lock the safe room. don't let anyone in. don't answer your door. anyone in. don't answer your door . um, i anyone in. don't answer your door. um, i didn't know at the time that you can't actually lock the safe room because it was designed to protect him from rockets, but not from actual terrorists inside your home. so she told me her house wasn't locked, and the next thing i know, i hear a man's voice is speaking to her in, uh, in engush speaking to her in, uh, in english with the with an arabic accent. they might have heard her speak english to me because my mom was born in south africa , my mom was born in south africa, so i hung up the phone because i realised that the terrorists got to her. and i called my brother , to her. and i called my brother, who lives next door to her, just ten metres apart, and i told him, nadav, go into the safe room, lock yourself in, don't
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let anyone in. um, i don't know what's happening at mom's because i didn't want to panic to make him panic. um, and then i had the same men's voices talking to him, and i realised that the terrorists got to him as well. so i hung up. i called people in the kibbutz, our small community, to let them know that the terrorists were at my mom's and at my brother's . um, and and at my brother's. um, and that's when i realised that the small security group that we have was already engaged in combat on different neighbourhoods in the kibbutz , neighbourhoods in the kibbutz, that this was a massive attack and no one could get to them at. and two minutes later i get two pictures sent to my phone from my mom's whatsapp group showing my mom's whatsapp group showing my mom's whatsapp group showing my mom sitting in her living room , still in her nightwear. room, still in her nightwear. uh, my brother next to her on
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the sofa . and underneath those the sofa. and underneath those two pictures on my phone, it said in english, hamas. two pictures on my phone, it said in english, hamas . and the said in english, hamas. and the third picture they uploaded to my mother's facebook. uh uh, facebook story, which she's 79 years old. she doesn't know how to do that. so it was obvious to me that they did that. and i later learned the that my neighbour saw them being taken out . uh, but neighbour saw them being taken out. uh, but i've only learned that two days later. so i didn't know that at the time. i for the first four hours i thought they were murdered because the rumours about the kidnappings only started circulating around noon. so for the first four hours i was sure that i lost them, that they're gone . and i them, that they're gone. and i was worried for all my friends. 1 or 2 issues there with the
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line to eilat. >> what a devastating story. and i think this just brings home what people went through on october the 7th. so her brother was killed and her mother in her 70s and her other brother taken hostage hamas getting onto the mother's social media on facebook and boasting that they have her. and that's why israel is taking the action it currently is. look, we've lost the line to eilat, but what a humbling conversation that was . humbling conversation that was. coming up, i get more reaction to the story that's dividing the nafion to the story that's dividing the nation . should pro—palestine nation. should pro—palestine protests on armistice day be banned ? tv comedy legend jim banned? tv comedy legend jim davidson , who's devoted his life davidson, who's devoted his life and career to military causes, joins me live to give his verdict . that's before ten. but verdict. that's before ten. but next up, suella bravermans crackdown on the homeless sleeping in tents provoked widespread outrage, but not from the prime minister. so are the government right to stop britain's cities turning into a san francisco hellscape? lee
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anderson live in the studio next. and he's not pulling his
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> comedy legend jim davidson on the way. but time now for westminster's toughest talking mp, deputy tory party chair lee anderson . never one to pull his anderson. never one to pull his punches.lee anderson. never one to pull his punches. lee dropped more truth bombs when he published , he bombs when he published, he backed his under—fire home secretary, suella braverman, when she took a firm stand
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against homeless people pitching up suella braverman up tents. suella braverman warned the behaviour would turn britain into a lawless liberal hellhole such as san francisco , hellhole such as san francisco, los angeles or seattle , where los angeles or seattle, where literal tent cities riddled with crime and drug use have made entire neighbourhoods no go zones. do we want that for britain as well? lee said on twitter . coming to britain as well? lee said on twitter. coming to a britain as well? lee said on twitter . coming to a town near twitter. coming to a town near you direct from the usa. well, that's if suella braverman is ignored. one tent becomes too, becomes three, becomes four. you know the end result . and the big know the end result. and the big man joins me now. lee, great to have you in the studio. lots to get through. we need to fix homelessness. it's devastating our tents. the answer? >> no, they're not the answer, mark. >> i've worked with homeless charities in the past three different charities. the different charities. and the answer to these people answer is to get these people off the street and give them that holistic solution that they need. that holistic solution that they need . it's not just about having need. it's not just about having a for the night. these a bed for the night. these people have severe mental people have got severe mental health problems. struggle health problems. they struggle to struggle to
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to conform. they struggle to live in that home environment and, you know, we see these tents on the street, like i said in the tweet mark, one tent mcqueens becomes two, becomes three, four. you three, becomes four. before you know got a whole know it, you've got a whole community like see community of tents like you see in america, in san francisco. i've it myself. and these i've seen it myself. and these are a magnet for crime , are a magnet for crime, antisocial behaviour, drug deaung antisocial behaviour, drug dealing , prostitution. we don't dealing, prostitution. we don't want that on our streets in great britain. this is the start of shanty towns in our country. suella is quite right. what we need to do is support these people to get them back in support of the accommodation. >> it's already cold night >> it's already a cold night this i was wrapped up in this evening i was wrapped up in my mittens and scarf and all the rest it. you wouldn't want to rest of it. you wouldn't want to sleep rough this evening. who could deprive somebody a tent tonight? >> it's a fair point. but >> well, it's a fair point. but what i'm trying say lot what i'm trying to say is a lot of these people, mark, and we know for a fact, is they're know this for a fact, is they're not genuinely homeless. there are people in know this are people in tents. i know this for an absolute that they are people in tents. i know this for begging.1te that they are people in tents. i know this for begging. they that they are people in tents. i know this for begging. they are|at they are people in tents. i know this for begging. they are they ey are people in tents. i know this for begging. they are they are are begging. they are they are getting people under getting money off people under false pretences as they're pretending be homeless. it's pretending to be homeless. it's
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not we've got people not only that. we've got people who be illegal migrants who may be illegal migrants that's coming to this country who may be illegal migrants that's underg to this country who may be illegal migrants that's underg to thfalserntry that's under under false pretences they're setting up pretences. they're setting up these camps . i've known these these camps. i've known it before, several years ago. we've had camps set up in woods, in forests where all communities are look, it's are living together. look, it's 2023, mark. we're in great britain , a great country. people britain, a great country. people should not be living in tents. there is no excuse for anybody living that lifestyle . and it's living that lifestyle. and it's very, very difficult sometimes to the off the to get the people off the streets, out tents or streets, out the tents or wherever get them in wherever to get them in supported because supported accommodation because they these these communities. >> however, i mean, we can't you know, by case. no, we know, case by case. no, we can't. these individuals are can't. who these individuals are and, you know, the tents, you could argue, are evidence of the conservatives failure to tackle the problem. >> well, that's a load of rubbish. >> mark. and you know, it's a load of rubbish. you know, there are loads of homeless charities in country. people in this country. people should not living streets. not be living on the streets. you my local council you know, go to my local council all a homeless all you will get a homeless interview straightaway, say you will look will get accommodation. look we're housing illegal migrants in it's a cost of in this country. it's a cost of £8 day. if people
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£8 million a day. if people coming can get coming over on a boat can get access to a barge, a hotel, a boarding house, a disused army camp, then we can put our homeless up, can't we? >> most definitely. well, lee, let's on to another story let's go on to another story that heart of. as that you're at the heart of. as always, breaking in the last houn always, breaking in the last hour, leaked whatsapp messages between owen anderson, the between owen lee anderson, the deputy the tory party deputy chair of the tory party and tory colleagues were , as lee and tory colleagues were, as lee lambasted them for publicly criticising the home secretary . criticising the home secretary. suella braverman so tell us about this. do you stand by these messages? >> yes, i do. i mean, it's a shame, mark, that our private messages are out there in the press and in the media. so if they're out there, i can talk about it. >> yeah. i mean, who's who's leaked it? gove ideas. i've known david davis. do you want to name names? >> i've no who leaks these >> i've no idea who leaks these messages. it's messages. look, i mean, it's done harm. actually i'd done me no harm. actually i'd sooner these messages not be leaked. you don't. >> put anything in a >> you don't put anything in a message stand message that you couldn't stand by. of guy, by. you're that kind of guy, aren't you? >> yeah, i think so. i like to think so, but i get a little bit irritated colleagues, you irritated when colleagues, you
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know, things on know, start putting things on twitter. very nice to twitter. that's not very nice to our home secretary. got the our home secretary. so got the toughest in government, toughest job in government, i think she's think suella and she's she's been breath of fresh air. been like a breath of fresh air. and you know, i've always been taught, every job i've taught, you know, every job i've done throughout my is when done throughout my life is when you criticise colleagues, you criticise your colleagues, you criticise your colleagues, you private. you don't you do it in private. you don't do it public. correct and do it in public. correct and public. united public. you should have a united front. stick together front. you should stick together . it's like in football under ferguson, united, ferguson, manchester united, keep dressing room, keep it in the dressing room, keep it in the dressing room, keep it in the dressing room, keep it dressing room keep it in the dressing room and, know, when people share and, you know, when people share things like to whatsapp groups, that's me. look that's a no no for me. look there's probably ministers. i disagree with some of the things they say the policies they've they say or the policies they've got. i would never criticise is there tory there a certain type of tory mp that would story? that would leak this story? >> do you do you have the sort of the measure of who it might be? >> i've got no idea who may >> i've got no idea who it may be. we've had leaks in be. i mean, we've had leaks in the past and know, people the past and you know, people are longer in the party. what are no longer in the party. what i say the leaks have sort of i say and the leaks have sort of stopped. you can make your own i say and the leaks have sort of stopp up you can make your own i say and the leaks have sort of stopp up aboutan make your own i say and the leaks have sort of stopp up about thatake your own i say and the leaks have sort of stopp up about that one.'our own i say and the leaks have sort of stopp up about that one. yeah wn mind up about that one. yeah but, you know, it's mischievous. i mean, i don't know what what but, you know, it's mischievous. i m colleagues know what what but, you know, it's mischievous. i mcolleagues kn(thinking nhat but, you know, it's mischievous. i mcolleagues kn(thinking ofat my colleagues are thinking of when stuff to when they leak stuff to journalists, know, the two
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journalists, you know, the two most in most untrusted professions in this politicians and this country are politicians and journalists so you all know journalists. so as you all know for sure, when for sure, mark. so when politicians leaking to politicians are leaking stuff to journalists, think, why politicians are leaking stuff to jomyou sts, think, why politicians are leaking stuff to jomyou doing think, why politicians are leaking stuff to jomyou doing it? think, why are you doing it? >> what about suella as way of communicating? >> do you think she's a little clumsy in her language? >> think sometimes all >> i think sometimes all politicians a little bit clumsy because we get caught on the heart. have things heart. we have to say things instantaneously. you the instantaneously. you know, the media are all over us. but you know what? know, uses know what? you know, she uses strong uses strong language. she uses sometimes language. but in sometimes salty language. but in the real world, mark, when you get out of this bubble of politicians and lords and ladies and media and you lot people want to hear this sort of language , you know, that's not language, you know, that's not straight talking. that's not offensive streets. offensive on the streets. >> can you up. >> so you can you stand up. >> so you can you stand up. >> her suggestion the >> her suggestion that the illegal crossings are an illegal migrant crossings are an invasion. are you comfortable with that camping with the suggestion that camping out in a tent is a lifestyle choice ? i mean, is that language choice? i mean, is that language that lee anderson lose that lee anderson would lose wrong? a wrong? because you're a diplomat, a gentleman. diplomat, you're a gentleman. >> i'm diplomat at all. >> i'm not a diplomat at all. she's on the illegal she's right on the illegal migrants, stuff. migrants, the homeless stuff. i mean, been misquoted on
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mean, she's been misquoted on that it's a lifestyle that with the it's a lifestyle choice. is some people choice. there is some people deliberately tents deliberately living in tents that's the keys to that's been offered the keys to accommodation, professional beggars, beggars. beggars, professional beggars. now, they're offered now, if they're offered accommodation and turn it accommodation and they turn it down, is a lifestyle down, that is a lifestyle choice. of. okay. all right . choice. end of. okay. all right. >> there you go. >> well, listen, there you go. big news at the bbc, lee. and i know you're a big avid listener and viewer to our national broadcaster , tory attack dog broadcaster, tory attack dog carol vorderman has been sensationally sacked from her weekly bbc morning radio show in wales over her twitter use criticise easing the government, which now breaches new bbc social media guidelines . so is social media guidelines. so is that the right decision for the beeb and why not? >> gary lineker well, it's a i'm shocked. i'm going to miss carol on the television show. a good show is not that i ever listen to the bbc or watch it because i rip my tv licence up many, many years ago. i'm not paying for that rubbish. and if they come knocking on my door, mark, as i said before, heavies will said before, the heavies will get clear off. look, get told to clear off. look, carol is what what is known as in this country as prolific
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in this country as a prolific media nuisance. she's forever on twitter and whatever platform having a go at people like me she's told me in the past she needs to she needs to clear off, actually. i mean, but i mean, the sad news is now she's off the sad news is now she's off the bbc. this will give her even more time to mess about on the phone and put out ridiculous tweets. mean, she probably tweets. i mean, she probably needs and see somebody, needs to go and see somebody, but got so many but why has she got so many followers on twitter? >> that suggest that followers on twitter? >> people that suggest that followers on twitter? >> people agrenggest that followers on twitter? >> people agree with;t that followers on twitter? >> people agree with whatt some people agree with what she's well, i don't know she's saying? well, i don't know how she's got on how many followers she's got on twitter. >> 800,000. 800,000. but >> 800,000. about 800,000. but you know, there is market for you know, there is a market for these sort of people. and i think, carol sort attracts think, carol sort of attracts these these these lunatics that follow her on a daily basis. they on word. and they hang on every word. and when tweets out when she tweets something out about all me. about me, they all pile on me. >> the people that follow >> but the people that follow her, they're they're very kind. it on their twitter. it it says so on their twitter. it says not behind. >> they always say the nice >> now, they always say the nice people, listen, people, aren't they? listen, listen, mark. they say listen, mark. they always say be the politics. the kind of gentler politics. and the most and these are probably the most nastiest in our society. nastiest people in our society. look, you know, carol's got a platform. she says, you know, i think she says the wrong things
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most time, a bit like most of the time, a bit like lineker, lineker bit lineker, lineker is a bit smarter than than carol, to be honest. when say some of honest. but when she say some of these nasty, horrible things, she actually reveals what she's all and the bbc actually all about. and the bbc actually for manned up and for once have manned up and binned. now binned. they should start now with and get rid of him with lineker and get rid of him as well, because getting on as well, because he's getting on my nerves and he's getting on probably most the country's probably most of the country's nerves signalling. nerves with virtue signalling. i mean, single political mean, every single political argument out with is on argument he comes out with is on the side. the wrong side. >> do say that carol >> what do you say that carol should off? should clear off? >> mean, what do you mean by that? >> well, i mean, i know she's got a busy private life. i'm not prepared to talk about that live on air. she needs just shut on air. she needs to just shut up like you. up and she's like you. >> she she attracts the opposite sex. >> sex. >> and that's fair enough. well, i don't i attract the i don't know if i attract the attract the opposite sex or not, mark, but i think i think there are the lee anderson groupies. >> hanging around >> they're always hanging around outside they're which >> well, they're really. which way? but no, she. look, way? show me. but no, she. look, she's. i mean, she's what do you call a b celebrity, call them, a b celebrity, a career in television. done. you know, bit radio know, she's done a bit of radio show at times at an end. she
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needs to just go away somewhere, you bow out gracefully and you know, bow out gracefully and retire and use bus pass. retire and use a bus pass. that's good, isn't it? >> far young >> i'm sure she's far too young for listen, let's for that. well, listen, let's take a listen to what carol had to despite my show being to say. despite my show being light—hearted political light—hearted with no political content, was explained me content, it was explained to me that a weekly show in my that as it's a weekly show in my name, guidelines would name, the new guidelines would apply and any content apply to all and any content that i post year round. that i post all year round. since non—negotiable since those non—negotiable changes radio contract changes to my radio contract were ultimately found were made, i've ultimately found that not prepared to lose my that i'm not prepared to lose my voice on social media change who i am or lose the ability to express the strong beliefs that i hold about the political turmoil this country now finds itself in. listen, i'll be honest with you. i think she's a very talented broadcaster and she's entitled to her opinion, especially now that she doesn't work the bbc. lee, can work for the bbc. lee, can i have a quick word with you about yesterday's king's speech i was awake for some of it, but not the whole thing. it was thinner than posh spice on the keto diet. were you disappointed with it? >> oh, look, mark, i mean, people make a big deal about the
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king's speech. it's. it's. it's a plan for the year. that's all it is. i mean, the real detail, i would imagine what the thing that i'm looking forward to is the autumn statement in a couple of weeks time. that's when the financial measures are introduced or explained, and that's when people will actually realise what's in their pocket. at the end of the day, it's when businesses realise where are they fare over the next they going to fare over the next year? mean, king's speech year? i mean, the king's speech is plan for year. you is just a plan for the year. you know, the media make a big deal out of it. it's legislation that we was in. there's no we knew was in. there's no surprises there. we knew surprises in there. mark we knew what there. don't what was in there. so i don't know why everybody's getting into know, tizzy into such a you know, tizzy about it. >> has rishi sunak nag's head dropped a little bit? >> what do mean? >> what do you mean? >> what do you mean? >> well, he looked a little depressed in the commons yesterday, especially when suella braverman was being mocked i think. do you think >> well, i think. do you think his heart's still in it? you know the boss? yeah. is he still got fighting? got the fighting? >> mean, is a >> of course. i mean, is a supremely intelligent man. you know, who was is know, this is a man who was is just a backbench mp eight years ago the prime ago and now is the prime minister the country. so it's
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minister of the country. so it's a to fame, if you a meteoric rise to fame, if you like. suella is always going to get of stick because she get a lot of stick because she is the one person i well, one of the people our cabinet that the people in our cabinet that the people in our cabinet that the the labour party the left, the labour party absolutely fear she's she's got her on the pulse for me her finger on the pulse for me and she goes down and i know she goes down incredibly in the red wall. incredibly well in the red wall. you always say me you know people always say to me when back ashfield, when i go back to ashfield, suella speak in my language, we need to behind her and need to get behind her and support because support this lady because i think a she's a class act. think she's a she's a class act. >> always a thrill >> leigh it's always a thrill when you come into the studio. look forward to your show on friday of course, always friday night. of course, always unmissable stuff. that is 8:00 friday night. of course, always un|friday. e stuff. that is 8:00 friday night. of course, always un|friday. e stuf'anderson8:00 on friday. leigh anderson 7:00, 7:00. go. glad got 7:00. there you go. glad i got the memo right. i'm in trouble now. an enemy. he'll be now. made an enemy. he'll be he'll on whatsapp having a go he'll be on whatsapp having a go coming as starmer faces coming up as keir starmer faces his first sensational frontbench resignation. division over resignation. is division over israel labour israel proof that a labour government would be five years of ? my panel of total chaos? my panel thrashed shortly, thrashed that one out shortly, but next i get some more reaction to the week's big story. should plan pro—palestine protests on armistice day. be back. protests on armistice day. be back . and tv comedy legend jim back. and tv comedy legend jim davidson, who has devoted his
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life and career to military causes, joins me live to give his verdict. jim davidson is
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next gary on email is not happy about homelessness in this country . homelessness in this country. mark gbnews.com gary says hi mark gbnews.com gary says hi mark lee anderson says that criticism of the government regarding homelessness is rubbish, but it's the clear failure on the part of the tories illegal migrants are not in tents , they are in four star in tents, they are in four star hotels. it's our people that are on the streets . yes, let's talk on the streets. yes, let's talk about lawlessness on the streets. it's the demonstrators causing trouble, not the homeless , says gary. keep those homeless, says gary. keep those emails coming. mark at gbnews.com the brilliant gb news.com the brilliant journalist gbnews.com the brilliant journalist tom bower. later in uncancelled have the conservatives conceded the next election already? do we do we need to strap in for five years of labour? but first, it's time for comedy legend jim davidson
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and jim police chief sir mark rowley has stuck his guns and refused to ban a pro—palestine march on armistice day, despite coming under political pressure . coming under political pressure. sir mark was hauled into number 10 for talks with rishi sunak earlier today, but made it clear that was insofar isn't intelligence that public disorder was sufficient to ban the march , whilst also offering the march, whilst also offering the march, whilst also offering the pm some assurances? a statement released by number 10 this afternoon said it's welcome that the police have confirmed that the police have confirmed that the police have confirmed that the march will be away from the cenotaph and they'll ensure that the timings do not conflict with any remembrance events . but with any remembrance events. but there remains the risk of those who seek to divide society be using this weekend as a platform to do so . so jim, great to have to do so. so jim, great to have you on the show. what do you think's going to happen this weekend? are you worried about trouble . trouble. >> well, i've been seeing a few little things.
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>> don't forget that the veterans are there for a long weekend. >> they like to unscrew a few corks and get together and celebrate the time when they were young and life was different to how it is now . different to how it is now. these guys are going to hate that. yes. everyone has the right to protest , that. yes. everyone has the right to protest, but i can't help thinking that the timing of this is been picked to cause trouble and almost race baiting, if you like, and provocation . if you like, and provocation. and this is what gets me about the palestinian people who are great people . why aren't they great people. why aren't they protesting against the hamas? do you know do you know what this this when they talk about the second world war, we were fighting the nazis, not the germans. they don't say we were fighting the germans, but we were we were fighting the germans the germans and they elected the well, the nazis over. it's well, the nazis took over. it's the now, they say about the the same now, they say about the war in israel. not fighting the palestinians. they're fighting hamas. well, let's hope that's the case. and the palestinian people should rise up against hamas , who basically drew first
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hamas, who basically drew first blood and caused all this carnage. i hope that the palestinian people and the lefties and, you know, the you know, the labour supporters and nutcases that are all there with their banners have some respect for the old men and women of this country who fought for the right to give these people the ability to protest and have free speech. it's sad if there's any trouble. >> mark well, indeed , jim, >> mark well, indeed, jim, you've done so much charity work for our servicemen and women. your your whole life, your whole career. how will these folks feel if this weekend's memorial is disrupted ? is disrupted? >> well, i think there'll be very, very angry and all of us here will be disappointed and it will be such a sad thing. the idea of protest is to get to draw favour from people to support your cause. this will do.the support your cause. this will do. the palestinians and the hamas and the people that support and they're looking for a ceasefire. that's not going to happen. a ceasefire. that's not going to happen . protest doesn't cause happen. protest doesn't cause governments to do stuff . but all
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governments to do stuff. but all these old fellas that we can see now that spend their the whole year getting ready for this, they're going to be so upset and disappointed and angry. and don't forget, mark, they might be veterans, but they're still paratroops and marines and infantry and sas. there might be 60, but as they said in the wild, geese , i wouldn't like to wild, geese, i wouldn't like to be up against them, sir. >> nicely done . he's got the >> nicely done. he's got the voice off as well . voice off as well. >> jim. it's a dilemma, though, isn't it, for the government? you're absolutely right that we've to have right to we've got to have a right to protest but then disruption protest it, but then disruption and trouble could happen this weekend. would you ban the weekend. so would you ban the marches? would you go that far or not? >> no, i wouldn't ban anything because i'm great believer in because i'm a great believer in in free speech. and i've suffered from not being able to speak freely, even today. boom, radio have banned you dreams adverts because they don't like me. so what is that about? crazy. i think the government should just let the metropolitan police step in. and if the police think there's going to be trouble, stop it.
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trouble, they should stop it. i'd that rally, though. i'd bypass that rally, though. i think he's joined at the hip with president biden, and the two them would make odd two of them would make the odd couple, they? wouldn't they? >> boys, too, right? least rowley the talking. rowley could do the talking. jim, let's stay on the military and of fun because and have a bit of fun because manpower. that's right. manpower has been banned by australian armed forces following a woke inclusion drive which aims to use genderless language. so jim, who has the man hours to come up with this rubbish? >> well, you know , mate, i'm a >> well, you know, mate, i'm a great lover of the australian armed forces. i've been in afghanistan with them and few other places and i'm telling you, mate, whoever made this up, it's probably some sheila , some it's probably some sheila, some lefty sheila in government . and lefty sheila in government. and i'll tell you what, mate. skippy would turn in his grave. there'll be more precise. skippy would turn in their grave or her or whatever . you would turn in or whatever. you would turn in his grave. >> you got to get the pronouns right. i mean, we don't have much hope in the west if these are the people defending us, do
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we, jim ? we, jim? >> well, does send out a >> well, it does send out a thing , doesn't it, where the thing, doesn't it, where the enemy say, who's up against us? i'm neutral accent i'm going to do a neutral accent here. know who's against here. you know who's up against us? the australians. it doesn't matter. they don't know whether they're men or women whatever they're men or women or whatever . they've got a leftie government. all we have to do is wear a rainbow flag wear brave wave a rainbow flag at and they'll surrender at them, and they'll surrender and take the crazy , too, right? >> listen, jim, let's finish on some good news. well done. portsmouth council who are portsmouth council. all who are leading the fight back against vegan h leading the fight back against vegan it voted to vegan campaigners. it voted to keep meat and dairy on the menu at all. official event s, which is, i think, fantastic news. do you eat meat? because you look like a steak man to me. are you are you partial to a big juicy bone? >>i bone? >> i don't eat as much red meat as i used to because i've just been divorced. i can't afford it. but i'm a great eater of meat and they're saying that cows every time they blow off, put a hole in the ozone layer. so it's our duty to eat them. and don't worry about upsetting vegans, because if they're really with just run
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really upset with you, just run away . won't be able to away. they won't be able to catch you. they've got no strength. you to eat cows strength. you need to eat cows to away. to run away. >> i'll tell you what, you've not eating sausage not been eating vegan sausage rolls. tonight. they've put rolls. not tonight. they've put some in pencil this some lead in your pencil this evening, we'll catch up in evening, jim. we'll catch up in a week's time. evening, jim. we'll catch up in a wi've s time. evening, jim. we'll catch up in a wi've gotne. evening, jim. we'll catch up in a wi've got no one to write to. >> i've got no one to write to. >>— >> i've got no one to write to. >> most definitely. jim, listen, we'll catch really soon. we'll catch up really soon. brilliant stuff, always. tv brilliant stuff, as always. tv comedy dave wilson. comedy legend jim, dave wilson. can you believe that? what a shocking he's been shocking story. he's been cancelled by boom radio. well there you go. it's each to their own , isn't it? coming up, our own, isn't it? coming up, our police right to use physical force on just stop oil protesters . a former police protesters. a former police sergeant, harry tang and just stop oil spokesperson emma brown. do the battle in the clash very shortly. let me tell you, sparks will fly. what do you, sparks will fly. what do you think about the idea of the police getting physical to stop ? police getting physical to stop? just stop. oil market gbnews.com. but next is keir starmer faces his first sensational front bench resignation in is division over israel proof that a labour
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government would mean five years of chaos. while my panel thrashed that one out. plus we got a breaking story which is a guy that worked for keir starmer until a week ago, has been organising the march this saturday. couldn't make it saturday. you couldn't make it up. we'll deal with all of that next. a lively hour to come. don't go anywhere. next. a lively hour to come. dorgood anywhere. next. a lively hour to come. dorgood evening.e. next. a lively hour to come. dorgood evening. it's alex >> good evening. it's alex burkill here with your burkill here again with your latest news weather forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. whilst will be some clear whilst there will be some clear and sunny spells through the next so, there will also next day or so, there will also be heavy and possibly be plenty of heavy and possibly thundery showers because low pressure across northern parts of the is dominating the of the uk is dominating the weather, to a breezy and weather, leading to a breezy and showery theme for many of us as we go through this evening. and overnight, showers across western parts of scotland and northern will become northern ireland will become more widespread and filtering across areas england and across many areas of england and wales. of these could be wales. some of these could be heavy, possibly thundery, heavy, possibly even thundery, but be some clear but there will be some clear skies in between, especially across north eastern parts of scotland. touch of frost scotland. here, a touch of frost is likely even is quite likely and even elsewhere , bit a chilly elsewhere, a bit of a chilly start. first thing on thursday morning through the day itself,
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though, to be a though, it is going to be a showery picture for many of us. the will be the heaviest showers will be in places west, exposed places towards the west, exposed to winds . also some to the brisk winds. also some hefty showers towards far hefty showers towards the far south—east as well, likely to be driest across eastern and driest across eastern areas and across central and northern scotland, with decent scotland, with some decent sunshine here. temperatures sunshine here. but temperatures a on the side. highs a little on the low side. highs around 8 or 9 celsius, milder further south with highs around 11 or 12. friday then gets off to a bit of a damp start across southern areas with some showery rain. but that clears away and then we end up with a northerly wind. and in that northerly wind, we're going see the wind, we're going to see the most frequent showers across northern parts of scotland, northern perhaps northern ireland, and perhaps fringing and fringing into western and eastern elsewhere eastern coasts elsewhere, staying more dry staying drier and more dry weather to come as we go into the weekend before some wind and rain later. bye bye
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mark dolan and this is gb news tonight. and breaking this evening, the organisers of this week's armistice day, anti —israel week's armistice day, anti—israel march worked for sir keir starmer until wait for it a few days ago. damning revelations from the sun newspaper breaking overnight show that ben sophia, secretary of the palestine solidarity campaign in the group behind london protests over the past four weeks was until this week the labour party's . £61,000 the labour party's. £61,000 pounds head of digital organising . that's right, 61 organising. that's right, 61 grand to be a top honcho in the labour party. and he's organising a march for this saturday. it comes as starmer faces his first set national frontbench resignation over his middle east stance. so is labour doing its to best blow the general election open goal? that's the big debate next with tonight's top panel this evening. christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew lazar. also tonight, climate zealots feel the strong arm of the law .
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feel the strong arm of the law. and now time for my close up. our police right to use physical force to remove just stop oil protesters. former police sergeant harry tanguy and emma brown from just stop oil do battle in the clash . meanwhile battle in the clash. meanwhile as a tory minister says, the government seems to have given up following a dismal king's speech has rishi sunak already conceded the next election ? i'll conceded the next election? i'll be asking one of britain's most respected and most fearless journalists, tom bower, live in a studio before the end of the houn a studio before the end of the hour. plus as it's revealed, a third of kids go to school hungry . is it third of kids go to school hungry. is it the third of kids go to school hungry . is it the state's to job hungry. is it the state's to job feed our children? my panel gets stuck into that dilemma when they return for another fiery debate. also go find out why
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channel 4 has been nominated for a gong in tonight's greatest britain union jackass. and we've got tomorrow's front pages minutes away . also, folks , let minutes away. also, folks, let me tell you that we've got your opinions coming in thick and fast, mark, at cbnnews.com, the laptop is positively smoking . laptop is positively smoking. and would a labour government mean five years of chaos for this government will do that straight after the news headunes straight after the news headlines and polly middlehurst. >> mark, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gp newsroom tonight is that the prime minister has welcomed assurances from the metropolitan police that the pro—palestinian march planned for this weekend during the nation's annual period of remembrance will be routed away from the cenotaph in london. rishi sunak spoke with the met police chief sir mark rowley today amid concerns the march may interfere with remembrance commemorations. in a statement, though, the prime minister
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described the planned march as still being disrespectful and offensive. the lord mayor of the london mayor sadiq khan, said the policing of protests shouldn't become political matters, and the met insisted it is keeping the weekend's events under constant review . the under constant review. the transport secretary, mark harper, though, issued a warning to sir mark rowley, saying he'll be held accountable if there is any disruption. >> it is the operational responsibility of the commissioner of the metropolitan police. the legal powers are his is to request that he has to make a judgement based on the all of the factors that he has to take into account. and as the prime minister said, it's the met's responsibility to make sure the march goes off safely and we'll hold him to account for that. and we'll hold him to account for meanwhile, in middle >> meanwhile, in the middle east, the rafah crossing between gaza and egypt has been closed tonight because of security concerns and the foreign office says more than 150 british nationals did manage to leave
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gaza via the crossing last night. it comes as the israeli military says hamas has lost control in northern gaza and thousands of residents are moving south. israel is saying it won't reoccupy the gaza strip or control it for an extended penod or control it for an extended period of time . meanwhile, the period of time. meanwhile, the welsh parliament has called for an immediate ceasefire in gaza and israel. 24 members of the senate voting in favour of the motion. 19 against a war memorial in greater manchester is being protected by police tonight after protesters sprayed free palestine graffiti right across its base, greater manchester police said the cenotaph in rochdale was vandalised and poppies were removed yesterday afternoon . and removed yesterday afternoon. and it's currently a crime scene . it's currently a crime scene. both the police and rochdale council have condemned the vandalism as criminal disrespect , which is totally unacceptable . , which is totally unacceptable. a labour government minister has resigned from the shadow frontbench in protest at sir
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keir starmer's position on the israel hamas war. imran hussain's resignation letter says it's become clear that my view on the ongoing humanitarian catastrophe in gaza differs substantially from the position you have adopted addressing sir keir starmer. meanwhile it's emerged tonight that the organiser of this weekend's armistice day anti—israel march work for sir keir starmer until this week, it's being reported in the last hour, the secretary of state, secretary of the palestine solidarity campaign, ben sofer, was also the labour party's head of digital organs , party's head of digital organs, rising until just a few days ago. that news coming to us in the last hour now. the government's long running dispute with rail unions. that's led to widespread train strike. over recent months may soon be oven over recent months may soon be over. that's after talks between the rail delivery group and the rmt union. a plan has now been set out in what's being described as a mutually agreed way forward. it includes a pay
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rise backdated to 2022 and job security guarantees. the rmt says it's a welcome development. members now vote on whether or not to accept the offer . you're not to accept the offer. you're with gb news across the uk and now across europe. a warm welcome to our new viewers and listeners away from the uk who are tuning in for the first time today via satellite. details on how to stay in touch at gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thanks, polly. we'll see you in an hour. tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. and let's kick off with a first look at tomorrow's papers as we start with the metro reads the riot act to met chief in dependent sunak u—turn as he concedes pro—palestine remembrance day march will go ahead and a major indian investigation locked up for ten years. the reason why he's autistic, nicholas is just
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one of 2000 patients with learning difficulties dumped and forgotten in secure hospital units in a scandal uncovered by the independent, which shames the independent, which shames the government that has failed in its duty to care for the most vulnerable and the i the duke thatis vulnerable and the i the duke that is the duke, must be climate leader to fill void left by his father, environmental activist call on prince of wales to step up campaigning. activist call on prince of wales to step up campaigning . also, to step up campaigning. also, tories accused home secretary of fuelling uk far right anger more front pages to come, but let's get reaction to the big stories of the day with my panel tonight. author and broadcaster , tonight. author and broadcaster, a very old friend of mine, christine hamilton. but she's young , but christine hamilton. but she's young, but the friendship is old. we back to the edinburgh old. we go back to the edinburgh festival. old. we go back to the edinburgh festivtyour days a up comic. >> there you go. i'd still do it every night. businessman and activist brooks and former activist adam brooks and former labour party adviser matthew lhasa. now breaking tonight , sir lhasa. now breaking tonight, sir keir starmer is battling a
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crisis multiple as crisis on multiple fronts, as it's revealed his party's digital chief, who quit only a few days ago , has been uncovered few days ago, has been uncovered as one of the organisers behind this weekend's anti—israel armistice day. march damning revelations exclusive to the sun newspaper breaking as we speak, show that ben sophia, as mentioned there by polly in the bulletin, says secretary of the palestine solidarity campaign, the group behind london protests over the past four weeks was until this week the labour party's head of digital organising his salary £61,000. nice work if you can get it, he was on labour's payroll when he masterminded the last month of pro palestine rallies. sophie told the paper that he, quote, had moved on from labour in recent days . the drama follows recent days. the drama follows the sensational resignation of frontbench mp imran hussain yesterday , hussain blasted yesterday, hussain blasted starmer's refusal to call for a
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ceasefire in gaza as deeply troubling, adding that he could not in all good conscience remain sane in the shadow cabinet. but the labour leader's not backing down with a spokesperson for the party insisting that he sanitarian pauses are the best way to address the emergency in gaza. so delighted to have a top former labour adviser. with me in the studio, adam lazar is this emerged us oh adam i've gone mad. matthew forgive me, matthew. listen, i've recorded a lot. first of all, your your reaction to this breaking story in the sun. matthew that that actually somebody on the payroll of the labour party has been organising these marches. >> well, just be >> yeah, well, let's just be clear that he's been organising them in his time, if them in his spare time, if that's . that's all that's all right. that's all right. hang on, hang on, hang on. me be clear. on. let me let me be clear. first of all, the marches. look, i don't agree with i agree with the marches. i'm the marches. and i'm not a member palestine member of the palestine solidarity but he's solidarity campaign, but he's been it is a well been you know, it is a well known long standing organisation that campaigns for the rights of
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people in palestine and about the humanitarian crisis. so there's there's no question there's no there's no question of being involved with any of him being involved with any extremist . he didn't work extremist groups. he didn't work personally for keir starmer . personally for keir starmer. he's actually been he's actually on the on the of the party. on the on the left of the party. he's been there since 2015. he used married to a left used to be married to a left wing labour mp cat smith . so wing labour mp cat smith. so he's a well known figure on the on the left of the labour party. when keir took over. obviously the labour party employs a lot of people. a lot of people left who were supporters of jeremy benn had obviously sort of doubled down and was carrying on with a very specific role. he's not involved in making policy. he's not involved in making policy any issue and policy on any issue and certainly not on this issue . and certainly not on this issue. and it me, right that he's it seems to me, right that he's moved focus is moved on if his focus is elsewhere . but this doesn't mean elsewhere. but this doesn't mean that the labour party is endorsing protest. it endorsing the protest. it's it means one person worked means that one person who worked for party was involved. >> sure this is a good >> i'm not sure this is a good look for the party, is it? >> adam it's a terrible look for the labour party. >> a really bad look and i would think that there would be
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meetings on meetings at the moment the labour party moment within the labour party trying themselves trying to sort of get themselves out hole. know, the out of this hole. you know, the opfics out of this hole. you know, the optics are awful, especially if there's going to be trouble at there's going to be trouble at the weekend if this kicks off not only are the met going to look very like stupid and foolish, so are some within the labour party that are well organised it and supporting this terrible optics. >> well indeed . i mean, this is >> well indeed. i mean, this is somebody that's been on the payroll of the labour party until a few days ago who's been instrumental in organising, leading a march on armistice day, something that you personally object to. >> i mean, >> the absolutely. i mean, matthew's done wonderful matthew's done a wonderful job in defending it's , as in defending him, but it's, as adam optics are adam says, the optics are appalling. i mean, keir starmer is frankly, he's rent asunder. he has got splinters in his backside from sitting on the fence. he doesn't know what to do . i mean, fence. he doesn't know what to do. i mean, he's fence. he doesn't know what to do . i mean, he's married to do. i mean, he's married to a very observing jew. his wife who goes to the synagogue, her grandparents were polish jews.
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so he has all that background at home and he has the anti—semitic nonsense that's been rising up in his party. he thought he'd deau in his party. he thought he'd dealt with it by getting rid of corbyn, but it's still there, and he has a large number of mps who are frankly beholden to muslims in their constituency for their majorities. so people are torn in some. and keir starmer, he doesn't know what to do.the starmer, he doesn't know what to do. the next election was his to lose and now this has come along. it just shows harold wilson said a week is a long time in politics and my goodness and harold macmillan said events, dear boys, events, events, boy events. events, dear boy events. but i mean, wind change just mean, the wind can change just like and i mean starmer , i like that. and i mean starmer, i think on a very sticky think is on a very sticky wicket. this one more wicket. clearly this is one more nail it. nail in it. >> it's clearly been for the party conference, it's been it's been a difficult couple of weeks. you know, a but i think you're completely wrong, christine, that he's got splinters in backside splinters in his backside because absolutely because he stood absolutely firm. he's firm that israel's right to defend himself. he's firm that aid needs to go into into into gaza . and the fact
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into into gaza. and the fact that somebody resigned is because keir has remained firm . because keir has remained firm. but it's party, party split. >> so should they be in government? >> hold on. >> hold on. >> so why didn't keir starmer wear his poppy when he did the video islamophobia ? well, he video for islamophobia? well, he is a coward. >> he would have done if i had been he. >> well, he still in >> well, he didn't still in charge. and that says lot charge. and that says a lot about man. the man couldn't about the man. the man couldn't even say what a mistake. the man couldn't even what a woman couldn't even say what a woman is. we have potentially got is. so we have potentially got a prime in a year's time prime minister in a year's time or that does not or 18 months time that does not have balls to wear a poppy have the balls to wear a poppy in a video for islamophobia does not the to say what not have the balls to say what a woman is, pardon the pun. right so we have confidence in so how can we have confidence in him as a prime minister? we have a labour party that there is evidence of anti—semitic, anti semitic harassment and discrimination action by the ihra many years ago, corbyn under jeremy corbyn. >> and that's why under jeremy, who supported, served as a shadow brexit secretary, was one. >> keir starmer, whilst others resigned and they all supported
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him to become prime minister. >> so the labour party has got a problem with anti—semitism now. how can we go forward with a labour hold on, how can we go forward with a labour government right when we've got an ally, a world ally in israel? how can israel deal with a labour government , you know, and government, you know, and there'd be harmonious . there'd be harmonious. >> wait a minute, starmer's been very starmer's been very firm on israel. and he has not flip flopped on his rail. absolutely. >> to our jewish members. >> listen to ourjewish members. sorry, >> listen to ourjewish members. sorall no, go on. >> all right. no, go on. >> all right. no, go on. >> the jewish labour >> no, but the jewish labour movement. who? adam, you're absolutely there was absolutely right. there was a problem anti—semitism. problem with anti—semitism. the jewish which problem with anti—semitism. the jewiunder which problem with anti—semitism. the jewiunder harassment which problem with anti—semitism. the jewiunder harassment and vhich problem with anti—semitism. the jewiunder harassment and under fell under harassment and under stress corbyn years, fell under harassment and under stre�*been corbyn years, fell under harassment and under stre�*been absolutely byn years, fell under harassment and under stre�*been absolutely firm (ears, fell under harassment and under stre�*been absolutely firm inirs, fell under harassment and under stre�*been absolutely firm in its has been absolutely firm in its support for keir's very firm stance. >> well, let just tell you >> well, let me just tell you the taxi driver that brought me here does bring me here here and does bring me here a jewish taxi driver, they talk sense he not be voting sense he will not be voting labour told he was labour now. he told me he was going vote labour because of going to vote labour because of what's gone how labour is what's gone on and how labour is acting the middle east acting over the middle east crisis. will now be voting crisis. he will now be voting tory. about this then? >> taxi for keir starmer taxis for starmer by way, the
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for keir starmer by the way, the people adore are the poppy people i do adore are the poppy cabs, the people, the black cab drivers take veterans to and drivers who take veterans to and from this weekend. drivers who take veterans to and frorwonderful,end. drivers who take veterans to and frorwonderful, etcetera . um, i've >> wonderful, etcetera. um, i've forgotten what i going. forgotten what i was going. >> listening, boys and >> if you're listening, boys and girls, salute you. we girls, we salute you. and we thank you for 100. thank you for your 100. >> i mean, that is amazing. that is the spirit this is five is the spirit of this is five years of labour chaos. is the spirit of this is five yealabourbour chaos. is the spirit of this is five yealabour split. haos. is the spirit of this is five yealabour split. do»s. is the spirit of this is five yealabour split. do they deserve >> labour split. do they deserve government? i mean? government? what does i mean? >> call him sir >> people jokingly call him sir flip flop . let's see how firm he stands. >> absolutely. this is a test. >> absolutely. this is a test. >> well, it is a major test. let's see how firm he can stand on all this. his party there will be more resignations. there are a lot of mps who owe are quite a lot of mps who owe their position to the muslim are quite a lot of mps who owe their they on to the muslim are quite a lot of mps who owe their they are 10 the muslim are quite a lot of mps who owe their they are notie muslim are quite a lot of mps who owe their they are not going lim are quite a lot of mps who owe their they are not going t0l are quite a lot of mps who owe their they are not going to be vote. they are not going to be happy. who on earth advised happy. and who on earth advised him go do that ridiculous him to go and do that ridiculous video about islamophobia month? who earth by the way, decides who on earth by the way, decides islamophobia or anti—islamophobia should have a month whereas armistice gets one week end? okay. utterly ridiculous. and he should have worn a poppy briefly, adam, let's just remember that jeremy corbyn described hamas and hezbollah as friends, and jeremy
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corbyn is not a labour mp. >> thank goodness these people, these keir starmer, they supported to become the supported him to become the prime this country, prime minister of this country, to lead this country. >> described terrorists as >> he described terrorists as friends. >> one more big headache for keir starmer is jeremy corbyn. he's threatening to stand as mayor london if he stands mayor for london if he stands and up an independent party and sets up an independent party for westminster. could be matthew. >> i need to run scuppered. fair enough. >> scott starmer stuff. >> scott starmer stuff. >> it sounds like a headline. matthew, i run, but you matthew, i need to run, but you get the last word. >> look, i think that it is unfortunate that this has unfortunate it that this has emerged, keir's emerged, but keir, the keir's big whether he stays big test is whether he stays firm in supporting, supporting israel's to defend itself israel's right to defend itself and a sensible humanitarian response for the poor people of gaza. >> okay, folks, over to you. what do you think? mark gb news rt.com is this israel crisis playing into rishi sunak's hands? are they back in the game? i'll be asking legendary journalist tom bower before the end of the hour. but coming up, as it's revealed , more than a as it's revealed, more than a third of kids go to school hungry, which is, of course, devastating. it the state's
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devastating. is it the state's job feed our children? my devastating. is it the state's job gets our children? my devastating. is it the state's job gets stuckhildren? my devastating. is it the state's job gets stuck into an? my devastating. is it the state's job gets stuck into that iiy devastating. is it the state's job gets stuck into that moral panel gets stuck into that moral dilemma shortly. first, our dilemma shortly. but first, our police to use physical police right to use physical force like this to stop just stop oil . stop oil. where? well, the climate group spokesperson , emma climate group spokesperson, emma brown, goes to head to head with former police sergeant harry tanguy in the clash
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weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . news channel. >> so i'm just doing two more shows in this slot of monday to thursday , nine till 11 tonight thursday, nine till 11 tonight and tomorrow. it's been great to have your company. one of the highlights has been the emails we've got a couple now we've got a couple right now coming fast. market coming in thick and fast. market gbnews.com mark says. john the welsh labour government just voted for ceasefire so starmer has no control over them . linda has no control over them. linda says hi mark. starmer knows the vast silent majority in this country do not support these marches and have nil support for hamas . he is marches and have nil support for hamas. he is between a rock and a hard place. and last but not least, this from wayne, who i think speaks for many. least, this from wayne, who i think speaks for many . wayne think speaks for many. wayne says hi, mark. i'm sick to death of ordinary british people who want to march, congregate or celebrate british values is being labelled far right. right. and by the way, where were all of these people when yemen was
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getting blown to bits on a daily bafis getting blown to bits on a daily basis ? listen, by the way, we're basis? listen, by the way, we're going to have a great debate about just stop oil because cops have been getting quite physical with the protesters. is that appropriate? how about this from john? hi, mark. the only thing the police will do to just stop oil is dance to the song . let's oil is dance to the song. let's get physical with rainbow army bands and rainbow headboard banners. that's from john in leicester . well, you've painted leicester. well, you've painted quite the image. let me tell you. i'm really looking forward to the rest of the hour. by the way, what did you think of that king's yesterday ? send me king's speech yesterday? send me to has rishi sunak to sleep. has rishi sunak already thrown the towel? already thrown in the towel? will with britain's will debate that with britain's feistiest and most fearless journalist, the brilliant tom bower live in the studio. so folks, all of that to come. but first, the clash and a desperate paramedic racing to the scene of an urgent life and death emergency was forced to beg police to clear just stop oil
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protesters . this was from protesters. this was from waterloo bridge in london this morning after the eco clowns staged a slow march halting traffic in both directions. but the so—called climate activists got a taste of their own medicine when they were left angered by the police response to their antics. megan, have you got the clip? let's have a look at it . at it. >> hey, compliance . you >> hey, compliance. you defending his wrist? you're torturing me . that's not what torturing me. that's not what you're . you're. talking so you compliant? they sure very short . immediate so you compliant? they sure very short. immediate pain , so you compliant? they sure very short . immediate pain , lively stuff. >> well, tonight i'm asking , are >> well, tonight i'm asking, are the police right to use physical force to halt? just stop oil. let me know your thoughts. mark at gbnews.com or tweet us at gb news and do vote in the poll on
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twitter. but to discuss this now, i'm delighted to welcome the former police sergeant and phd former i say former police sergeant and current writer harry tanguy and we'll catch up shortly with just stop oils. emma brown first of all, harry, thank you. thank you so much for joining us. what do you make of the more robust approach from the more robust approach from the police in the last day or two? well hello, mark. >> yeah, they've basically been looking at legal the law that's been happening stated cases. the way the courts are going . i way the courts are going. i believe they've made 219 arrests, arrests since the beginning of november ,150 beginning of november, 150 charged now. so they're getting a feel of what is actually accepted by the courts. they can't be interested in what the whole thing is about it. they've got to be impartial and so you have to ask what the alternative is then. do we just let non—compliant people go ? so now non—compliant people go? so now if you actually dragged someone away, you're more than likely going to cause an injury to
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them. muscular or even bone, especially when elderly people are being involved. maybe and cause injury, pain, compliance has been around for many, many years . and when i was on public years. and when i was on public order unit, that's what was taught used it very taught and we used it very rarely. was basically to get rarely. it was basically to get someone go of something someone to let go of something when able to do so when when we were able to do so when it was legally necessary and all other options had failed. so the alternative to this is to just let them go. and i think we've got to remember that they are going to be putting anyone who is having pain compliance is being having pain compliance put on them and they've got an audience will be putting a show up. we can be pretty up. i think we can be pretty pretty about that. pretty sure about that. >> harry tanji great to >> well, harry tanji great to have your thoughts on that as a retired cop, let's now welcome , retired cop, let's now welcome, um, just oils. emma brown, um, just stop oils. emma brown, emma, great to have you on the show as well. i've just received this email from ian mark at gbnews.com. he said considering the just stop oil cretins were obstructing a paramedic trying to get an emergency with all of the blue lights flashing . i
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the blue lights flashing. i think the police were too gentle with the protester. do you agree ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's ? >> well, it's really 7 >> well, it's really unfortunate that ambulance was caught up in that ambulance was caught up in that disruption. >> we know that what we do is disruptive. the protesters on the other side of the road from the other side of the road from the ambulance and at that point, all of the people had already beenin all of the people had already been in police custody. and had been in police custody. and had been into the central been dragged into the central reservation . so we were not reservation. so we were not blocking road as such. it blocking the road as such. it was the police were was more the police that were blocking road. and i think blocking the road. and i think we've you know, police we've seen, you know, the police have responsibility in terms have a responsibility in terms of public order. they shouldn't be people's hands. be bending back people's hands. >> and that's completely illogical. and they should also be responding in a manner which is obviously as as as least disruptive to other vehicles as possible. um so i wanted to point out that the person in that video , i know him, he's that video, i know him, he's called alistair glass. he's a nasa scientist who worked prominently on the james webb telescope . so i would ask, why telescope. so i would ask, why
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is a person like that in a position like this? maybe maybe there's a reason. a reason for that. >> well, he's a nasa science artist. he's obviously been chucked out of that organisation . and i hope he tells us when the shuttle lands because this is a guy that is obstructing a road in this country. he you mentioned that it's unfortunate . mentioned that it's unfortunate. i think that's a very strange word. we're talking about a medical emergency here. this is a paramedic needs to treat a paramedic that needs to treat someone. it's more than unfortunate that and none of this would have happened without just stop oil . just stop oil. >> there comes a time when it's not like we have the perfect solutions . like for ordinary solutions. like for ordinary people, there's a limited amount of things that you can do to make your voice heard. and walking down a road. i'm sorry, harry, but that is one of the oldest old means of protest that we have ever had in a democratic country. so it it should be acceptable to walk down a road. and usually the you know, we do
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work with organisations. you know, we do try and get off the road. if there is a blue light and we've been doing these kind of protests for a very, very long time and nobody has been hurt and that is because we do try our very best. and in terms of those tactics working, though, they do work, we've seen in the netherlands that that tactic of blocking the a, i think it's the a 12 for a month andifs think it's the a 12 for a month and it's worked okay. >> harry, politicians that something that they need to deal with the issue because you can't arrest your way out of an environmental protest just okay emma harry tanguy how far do you think the cops should go ? think the cops should go? >> are they they stick to the usual rules and that is tried and tested and thank you , emma, and tested and thank you, emma, for your advice on how they should be dealing with these disrupt live people. but whatever you think about it, the police have had many, many years experience and expertise on it and have developed these skills to cause as few injuries as possible all in the circumstances. and we have to
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deal with non—compliant people and sometimes it looks slightly untidy. best bit about untidy. and the best bit about british which you british policing, which you don't other don't get in many other countries, it doesn't matter if he's scientist or the man next he's a scientist or the man next doonit he's a scientist or the man next door, it doesn't matter who they are. if they're considered to be breaking law and obstructing breaking the law and obstructing the obstruct , cutting the the obstruct, cutting the highway or causing a criminal offence, then he's dealt with in the same way as appropriately justified, proportionately all those things. and that's how it seems to have been done. all right. well, shouting and screaming, i'm not sure it's entirely necessary . entirely necessary. >> yeah, he was he was a nasa scientist. >> now he's a he's a he's a space cadet . space cadet. >> emma, i've seen the video. so his hand was bent back, like, i can only bend back my hand. his hand was, you should do yoga . hand was, you should do yoga. thatis hand was, you should do yoga. that is pain compliance. and i think that it doesn't matter what where, what job you do. nobody should be dealt with in that way. that person was being then be compliant. there is the law. the law has been changed about five minutes with about every five minutes with this home secretary doesn't this new home secretary doesn't hurt. is procedure. the
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hurt. there is procedure. the procedure is that police procedure is that the police lift each person one one person per limb and one behind the head. and that is how you get somebody who's not preferred. >> two i'm sorry. i used >> two years. i'm sorry. i used it for 30 years. emma, 30 years. i frontline 30 years i was frontline 30 years literally on the fatal investigation team and the armed response team that is not a that is not about peaceful protests was armed response and you attend incident that way that aren't firearms incidents . aren't firearms incidents. >> this is not like an armed okay incident would you do you think it's acceptable for the police to harm and to cause pain to citizens that are peaceful? he wasn't harmed . he caused. he wasn't harmed. he caused. okay, emma, let let harry briefly, harry, if you could answer that. >> i think and that that's it. i think the public should be they should feel happy that the we are the public. they're doing it in the most appropriate and justified properly. and just because is putting back because the rest is putting back i'm doing it and it's not i'm doing it now and it's not really hurting, but does get really hurting, but it does get confined. if i shout and confined. but if i shout and scream, can lock a lot worse.
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scream, it can lock a lot worse. it look a lot worse. it can look a lot worse. >> okay. >> okay. >> the arm was bent back to here. >> all right, listen, you can't put your hand that far back, can you, harry? there you it's been. >> it's been public. >> it's been public. >> well, okay, folks, with the injuries. >> time's up, won't we are librarians. >> we are nasa scientists. we are street cleaners. we are space cadets. we are the public. okay, space cadets. we are the public. okeemma. emma listen, emma, >> emma. emma listen, emma, you've say. yes or no. you've had your say. yes or no. emma it acceptable if people emma is it acceptable if people die as a result of just stop oils actions ? oils actions? >> i can't . that is just yes or >> i can't. that is just yes or no. you're not. is it acceptable that millions of people are going to die from these oil licenses? is it acceptable business as usual? it's killing millions of people. all right, folks, are walking down a folks, we are walking down a road. we are walking down. >> listen, always good to >> emma, listen, always good to have show. thank you have you on the show. thank you for thoughts. emma brown for your thoughts. emma brown from just stop oil. good on you for also my forjoining us. and also my thanks to harry tanji, former top sergeant and now very top police sergeant and now very successful no successful writer. and i had no idea where i was so bendy. wait till mrs. dolan finds out . now, till mrs. dolan finds out. now, who do you agree with? are the
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police right to use physical force to remove just stop oil? b says yes. finally. they should have been doing that from the start. instead of standing by and giving them cups of tea. alex says if just oil are alex says if just stop oil are obstructing causing obstructing the road, causing vandalism , then vandalism or trespassing, then of police should use of course the police should use force don't agree force, jim says, i don't agree with way that just stop oil, with the way that just stop oil, go their campaigning. go about their campaigning. but they're highlight they're trying to highlight something important. there's no need heavy with need to be heavy handed with them. your verdict is in. them. and your verdict is in. 94% agree that the police should use physical force . coming up use physical force. coming up next, before 10:00 in uncanceled, as a tory minister says, the government seems to have given up following a dismal king's speech has rishi sunak already conceded the next election? i'll be asking the fearless journalist tom bower live in the studio . but next in live in the studio. but next in the media buzz as it's revealed a third of kids go to school hungry, which is, of course, devastating . is it the state's devastating. is it the state's job to feed our kids? what do you think? should the government be doing it or should families
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why not allow the pro—palestine protesters to have their gathering . gathering. >> well, that was a lively clash, wasn't it? let's return now to tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz. once my punst in our media buzz. once my pundits have settled down, christine. and let's have a look at this. megan, do one of those sting things. that's brilliant. there you go . that's we there you go. that's what we spend money on those. spend a lot of money on those. well to everyone the well done to everyone in the craft department for that. okay. well done to everyone in the craftsun iartment for that. okay. well done to everyone in the craftsun newspaper' that. okay. well done to everyone in the craftsun newspaper pmit. okay. well done to everyone in the craftsun newspaper pm slamsy. the sun newspaper pm slams protest at abuse. where have all the poppies gone? no sellers at stations amid fears of attack and also borders binned by beeb. that's carol vorderman has been fired by the bbc from her very popular bbc wales show. fired by the bbc from her very popular bbc wales show . okay popular bbc wales show. okay folks, next up , we've got the folks, next up, we've got the mail and we've got camo. kate tries her hand as a drone pilot. that's the princess of wales giving it some military and as mark rowley still refuses to ban gaza, march on armistice day,
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even after being summoned to number 10, pm tells met chief on your head be it. number 10, pm tells met chief on your head be it . okay. more on your head be it. okay. more on the media buzz with my panel tonight, author and broadcaster christine hamilton, businessman, activist. and let's be honest, professional boxer. now no, no, adam brooks, you've got a fight in a couple of days. i pity the other guy. >> ten days and former labour party adviser , a real bruiser. party adviser, a real bruiser. >> matthew plaza in the red corner. oh yeah. now an astonishing 4 million british children are going to school hungry. that's according to research by a uk dairy company, arla , who i've got to say, do an arla, who i've got to say, do an excellent brand of lactose free milk. other brands are available . do you live in north london? of it means that of course i do. it means that more than a third of kids in britain are sitting in classrooms with empty stomachs, and government has been classrooms with empty stomachs, and of vernment has been classrooms with empty stomachs, and of not ment has been classrooms with empty stomachs, and of not doing 1as been classrooms with empty stomachs, and of not doing much en classrooms with empty stomachs, and of not doing much to accused of not doing much to change fewer than 1 change things. with fewer than 1 in parents saying in 5 parents saying their children have access to a free breakfast under schemes breakfast club under schemes designed for disadvantaged children. so, matthew, what do we think about this? is it the
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state's job, the government's job to feed our kids? >> so i think breakfast clubs are a great idea because all the evidence has shown that they massively help school attainment , they help kids do better at school, which of course has very positive consequences, both for the kids themselves and for society because as we all benefit from. >> but the proof is that kids do well if they've had breakfast. but why can't mum and dad give them breakfast? well because i'm not in favour of absolute universal provision of free school, of school meals , but school, of school meals, but breakfast clubs which are targeted at schools with low income backgrounds, they're not means tested for individuals like free school meals that we remember from when we were at school, which are obviously quite rightly continue. >> but breakfast targeted >> but breakfast clubs targeted on have on schools which have particularly have particularly which have which have kids who don't have have lots of kids who don't have breakfast. in an breakfast. yes of course. in an ideal world, every every family would the cornflake packet would be the cornflake packet family. old phrase, it would family. the old phrase, it would all be that. it all be like all be like that. it all be like a, know, a 1950s. you know,
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a, you know, a 1950s. you know, textbook. and everybody would be fed before they got to school. they're not. and therefore, breakfast clubs make a real difference to those children's future. >> christine mean, benefit >> christine i mean, the benefit system families are system is such that families are given to do given money with which to do things like clothe and feed their children. >> it's very difficult their children. >> have it's very difficult their children. >>have a it's very difficult their children. >>have a blanketery difficult their children. >> have a blanket viewifficult their children. >>have a blanket view about to have a blanket view about everybody because certain families let's be honest, they spend that money on fags and booze instead of spending it on their hamilton's. we don't their the hamilton's. we don't have of school age , so have children of school age, so it's not relevant. >> excuse me if you're not on benefits and i'm not on benefit. >> and anyway, no, they're complete nonsense. >> argument that some >> your argument is that some families misappropriate welfare. >> course m welfare. >> course do. but that >> of course they do. but that that the children should not suffer because of that. in an ideal world, no, of course the government shouldn't pay government shouldn't have to pay for breakfast. other for kids breakfast. on the other hand, think matthew or you hand, as i think matthew or you maybe have pointed out , maybe both have pointed out, children learn much better. you can't learn on an empty stomach. you can't concentrate. >> for the teacher. >> it's harder for the teacher. >> it's harder for the teacher. >> really good value. >> they're really good value. breakfast >> they're really good value. breakftchild. yeah, no child >> no child. yeah, no child should be expected learn on should be expected to learn on on. it's inhumane and
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on. i mean it's inhumane and they are good value because it's a good investment. a lot of i remember was school, remember when i was at school, we a free third of we used to get a free third of a pint of milk every body did somebody going it? somebody going to say it? >> thatcher, the milk snatcher, everybody got a third pint everybody got a third of a pint of milk. >> she hadn't hardly born >> she hadn't hardly been born then. had. she was older then. she had. she was older than me. >> but that was a really great it was great program because it was a great program because this was, you know, this was post—war getting post—war kids weren't getting enough. post—war kids weren't getting enoand the idea was that if >> and the idea was that if everybody a third everybody got at least a third of pint milk, would do of a pint of milk, it would do them and i'm sure it did. them good. and i'm sure it did. but think it's open to abuse but i think it's open to abuse and a lot of parents will say, oh, yippee, have to give oh, yippee, i don't have to give my breakfast because my kids breakfast because they'll it. but do think they'll get it. but i do think they'll get it. but i do think they ought to be a scheme devised that children who devised so that the children who needit devised so that the children who need it get it. i mean, a lot of companies i was about to say that thought about school that when i thought about school milk, like kellogg's and that when i thought about school nthink like kellogg's and that when i thought about school nthink this like kellogg's and that when i thought about school nthink this company,ogg's and that when i thought about school nthink this company,ogg's they i think this company, arla, they do provide a lot of free do already provide a lot of free stuff on the basis that catch them early and they'll eat. >> a lot the breakfast clubs them early and they'll eat. >> sponsored.3 breakfast clubs are sponsored. >> yeah, last last >> well yeah, the last last thing we want is our little ones going to school hungry.
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>> a family man and >> but you're a family man and you've worked up the you've worked your way up the ladden do you've worked your way up the ladder. do you think about ladder. what do you think about this, torn with this this, adam i'm torn with this because don't think people because i don't think people should get free stuff. >> and, you am very >> and, you know, i am very torn. again, kids are at torn. but again, kids are at school hours a day in school for 7 or 8 hours a day in some circumstances. now, they need to eat now. we've also got a and successive a state and successive governments have a lot governments that have let a lot of down and the cost of of people down and the cost of crisis living crisis has hit hard many families. now i'm hard for many families. now i'm someone that if a if a family cannot genuinely afford to feed their child in the morning and they are genuine in that and they are genuine in that and they can be screened and checked for that, then i would like schools to be able to give them breakfast. and as you say, it will help their learning and really it's safety of children and health and yeah we can't have children at school 7 or 8 hours on an empty seat and it saves money in the long run because it means that they're much so they're much more likely to do better at school, they're much less likely get into much less likely to get into trouble. they're less trouble. they're much less likely someone's going to have
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to for this. and again is to pay for this. and again is very honourable. >> it's investment in the >> it's an investment in the world these companies to do world and these companies to do this. this money's got to be >> but this money's got to be found from the state. yeah, briefly. >> christine. >> briefly, christine. >> briefly, christine. >> said my >> now, i've said my piece. >> now, i've said my piece. >> well, listen, there's >> okay. well, listen, there's something in response to matthew, but moments matthew, but at the moments past, that's is a rare past, that's that is a rare moment of silence from christine hamilton. >> it won't last. neil's at >> but it won't last. neil's at home, his home, very jealous with his little sauvignon cabernet. sauvignon folks, sauvignon blanc. okay, folks, listen , coming up before 11:00, listen, coming up before 11:00, i'll be nominating my why would i'll be nominating my why would i say union jack carson greatest britons of course, of the night. and channel 4 have been nominated. find out why shortly. but next in uncancelled as a tory minister says, the government seems to have given up following a dismal king's speech has rishi sunak already conceded the election? has conceded the next election? has he thrown the towel in? i'll be asking one of most respected asking one of the most respected journalists the country, tom journalists in the country, tom bower, some truth bower, dropping some truth bombs. live the studio .
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next well, in a developing story, bofis well, in a developing story, boris johnson has attacked rishi sunak and says the tories are drifting to defeat under his leadership, nothing to rally behind, nothing. we are just drifting to defeat . the whole drifting to defeat. the whole thing needs a massive kick in the pants that is boris johnson speaking to nadine dorries, who, of course is out there flogging her book. and i'm delighted to get reaction now from boris johnson's biographer that brilliant book, the gambler. tom bower. good to have you with us. and there you go. he's not gone away quietly, has he, boris johnson since ceasing to be prime is he right prime minister, is he right about rishi sunak that there the tories under his leadership are drifting to defeat? >> i'm afraid he's right at the moment. yeah. i think from last week has got pretty bad. i mean yesterday's king's speech was a huge disappointment . and the huge disappointment. and the idea that the headline was banning smoking ing when we can't even ban shoplifting, can't even ban shoplifting, can't ban rape , can't ban
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can't ban rape, can't ban burglary, who's going to enforce this rule? it's just nonsense . this rule? it's just nonsense. >> most most definitely. and it's significant intervention from boris. i mean , that's going from boris. i mean, that's going to be a damaging intervention because support because he still has support within the conservative movement. does. movement. he does. >> mean , the point about >> but i mean, the point about bofisis >> but i mean, the point about boris is that he's responsible for everything that's gone wrong. the man he's wrong. he is the man he's criticises hs2. he's the criticises hs2. well, he's the man approved it all the man who approved it with all the frauds involved , he rishi frauds involved, he says rishi has put up taxes. will boris actually taxes to pay actually put up the taxes to pay for his pandemic measures ? for his pandemic measures? >> exactly. >> exactly. >> he's the who every day is >> he's the man who every day is being in the covid being castigated in the covid inquiry for appalling leadership. i mean, we're actually seeing the real boris now, a man who's not only a fantasist, but tells untruths to himself. but he's unfortunately right about rishi. rishi is proving to be a man who is incapable of political leadership. >> it's a shame because he's a very able guy. he's got a high iq and he's not a bad admin traitor. well, i'm not too sure. >> i mean, i thought this whole love in with elon musk last week from bletchley park, but i it seemed to me to be his job
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interview for when he goes off to california when he loses the election. i just don't understand . understand. >> and he's going to do nick >> and he's going to do a nick clegg. head to clegg. i just head off to silicon valley. >> yes. >> yes. >> i just understand what >> i just don't understand what he he's doing because the he thinks he's doing because the queen's speech yesterday, a football for terrible football regulator for terrible idea holocaust memorial in london, right next london, shocking idea right next to parliament, parliament, everything was rotten and where it all starts he made the it all starts is he made the same mistake did. he's same mistake as boris did. he's arrived in downing street with a terrible crew who are not giving him ideas . yesterday's king's him ideas. yesterday's king's speech should have started. we had a bad time because of covid, a terrible time because of ukraine. destabilise rising situation in the middle east. but we've got the plan to rebuild britain and give you hope that is what the king should have started with instead of all the dreadful, dreadful garbage that came out. it was a very, disappointing . and very, very disappointing. and he's really only got one more chance to revive the tory party. the autumn statement . and the autumn statement. and unfortunately, seems to be unfortunately, hunt seems to be a man who just doesn't understand the need to cut taxes because where is the
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entrepreneurship britain with entrepreneurship in britain with these huge high tax rates ? these huge high tax rates? >> indeed. but like you, i don't like narratives i don't like like narratives and i don't like to assumptions as the next to make assumptions as the next election will be most likely may or october of next year. worst case scenario, january 20, 25. thatis case scenario, january 20, 25. that is a long time. the economy can pick up and you and i are both veterans of election campaigns where the pollsters were completely wrong. i mean, very recently, donald trump brexit and 2019 boris's landslide , to name but three. landslide, to name but three. >> but why leave it so late? why not start building now? why take the and there's all to win the risk? and there's all to win because starmer really has nothing to say. and not only that, a hugely divided that, he's got a hugely divided party. so actually starmer has only been made electable because of boris . and i just think that of boris. and i just think that sunak , if he had started sunak, if he had started yesterday with a huge, ambitious plan to rebuild britain, he could have taken the wind out of starmer sails. but instead, even with this march over the weekend, where's the political leadership? the country is being run? it seems , by extremist
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run? it seems, by extremist muslims. we're being terrorised by these few people who have taken to the streets, terrorising the poppy sellers and all the rest of it. why isn't the prime minister out as the su braverman is and say we're not going to have this hate? why doesn't he tackle it? and that's the problem. he's a technocrat, not a politician. >> and of course, many of those marches would argue that they're marching and it's only marching in peace. and it's only a that are. but why are a minority that are. but why are they extremists together? >> why? they extremists together? >> that? they extremists together? >> that has been the i made. >> why are the peaceniks marching with murderer people? >> because. because they're ignorant of history and middle—eastern politics? no they're middle—eastern politics? no the they're they're >> they're just. they're just they're are united. they're all are united. unfortunately with same anti unfortunately with the same anti semitism. no, really, what? >> you can't say that everyone on the march is anti—semitic because if you march with people who are saying death to israel, kick the 7 million out from the river to the sea, well, either you support them or you don't. what about those marching for gaza are dying? gaza and babies that are dying? >> should but they off on a >> should but they go off on a separate march. you don't need
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to march the nazis if to march with the nazis if you're opposed to the terrible things happening in things that were happening in germany in the 20s. but if you march to nazis, then you march to the nazis, then you identify with the nazis. these people identify with hamas. but let's take another point here, which be really which seems to be really important. not important. rishi sunak is not giving not only on giving leadership, not only on the marches but on the economy, on society and all sorts of these issues. that is where i do feel that boris is right. there's drift. he introduced the drift of the rottenness. but rishi could have saved it by now. that is what we thought he might be able to do. but he's just failing and that is where he's got literally days now. the autumn statement by jeremy hunt has to be a massive festo has got to be a massive festo for an entrepreneurial capitalist building society which will enrich people . not which will enrich people. not against saying we've got to hold our nerve percentage chance of sunak turning this round before the next election and remaining prime minister for five years. >> i think there's a chance if he takes it with the autumn statement, if that's his last
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chance and there is fiscal headroom. >> we've been told that. >> we've been told that. >> well, yes, but he's got to take it right. but they're so cautious. and that's the problem, too. >> managers running the >> bank managers running the country, bad bank managers. >> farage >> tell you what, nigel farage is bank managers either. >> what, his >> if only i tell you what, his bank manager is about to get much busier. but that's just a vicious rumour. tom i'm jungle. listen, catch up really listen, we'll catch up really soon. enjoyed debates soon. really enjoyed our debates on thanks to the on this show. my thanks to the legendary journalist, the brilliant whose books brilliant tom bower, whose books on corbyn and meghan on jeremy corbyn and meghan markle and, of course, tony blair and others are out now. okay, folks, it's time now for greatest britain and union jack carson who is your greatest? britain >> christine well, this is a countercultural one. >> my greatest britain is the bbc for finally sacking carol vorderman . and now on to gary vorderman. and now on to gary lineker. but they've made a great start. so the bbc. >> okay, there you go. i can't disagree with that one. adam, your greatest britain >> my greatest. britain is gb news for expanding its broadcast into europe. well done . bravo. into europe. well done. bravo. >> there you go. how can we.
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apparently you're very big in france, adam. thank you. >> yeah, he looks quite french. adam >> next, go and do some boxing matches in france. matthew how long have i got? okay matthew, you've got a big boxing match coming it? adam adam coming up. when is it? adam adam i've got to get this worked out next friday. >> not this friday. next friday. >> not this friday. next friday. >> we'll be rooting. i'm fighting rhino. >> the x uk gladiator. so it's going to be a tough test. yeah, well, he's got thick skin, let me tell you. >> really good luck with that one. got the so one. you've got the horns. so that's all right. thank you, matthew. called you adam that's all right. thank you, ma night. called you adam that's all right. thank you, ma night. you'relled you adam that's all right. thank you, ma night. you're great. u adam absolutely >> even i'm forgetting who i am. mine is the paramedic, the london who today london paramedic who today pleaded both police and pleaded with both the police and just the police who are just stop the police who are protecting them and stop protecting them and just stop oil stopping oil when they were stopping on westminster, bridge, westminster, on waterloo bridge, in they were in london because they were preventing getting an ill preventing him getting an ill patient to go to guy's hospital . patient to go to guy's hospital. you know, and i live around the corner. that could have been if i'd had asked out, that could have been me, but it could be anybody. and good him anybody. and so good for him for standing man doing his job.
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>> brilliant stuff. well, that is my greatest britain so well done, for an excellent one. one. >> one. >> yeah. rightly so. >> yeah. rightly so. >> okay, how about union jackass? >> christine well , it's >> christine well, it's a multiple nomination. >> it's all those who are desecrating the memory of our veterans by intimidating the present veterans . the people who present veterans. the people who by various means are intimidating, assaulting and insulting all those selfless volunteers who are giving up their time. well said. sell poppies. well, anyone who's involved in that are my jackass. >> amen to that. okay, adam, briefly, if you can, my jackass is channel 4 for its grotesque advert for its climate change season . season. >> it's disgusting. >> it's disgusting. >> let's let's take a brief look at it, if we can. >> worried about our carbon footprint while those with power are enough about their are doing enough about their carbon the change carbon skidmark, the change climate season watch now on channel 4. what a load of. >> okay . and finally, matthew, >> okay. and finally, matthew, your union jack carson. >> mine's nice and simple as you and tom were just discussing. rishi sunak. what for? for his
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particularly weak king's speech that was delivered yesterday . that was delivered yesterday. the cold light of today. it looks even thinner gruel than we thought. and it really is the last days of a failing government. >> wishful thinking? well, listen, folks , really enjoyed listen, folks, really enjoyed your company. give your company. i'm going to give it to christine. and those intimidates our wonderful poppy sellers headline is his next. i'm back tomorrow at nine. thanks your company. thanks for your company. >> good evening. it's alex burkill here again with your latest weather forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. whilst there will be some clear and sunny spells through the next day or so, there will also be plenty of heavy and possibly thundery low thundery showers because low pressure northern parts pressure across northern parts of is dominating the of the uk is dominating the weather, leading to a breezy and showery theme for many of us as we go through this evening. and overnight, showers across western of scotland and western parts of scotland and northern ireland will become more widespread, filtering across of england and across many areas of england and wales . some could be wales. some of these could be heavy, possibly even thundery, wales. some of these could be heavy, po willy even thundery, wales. some of these could be heavy, po will be ven thundery, wales. some of these could be heavy, po will be some undery, wales. some of these could be heavy, po will be some cleary, but there will be some clear skies in between, especially across northeastern parts of scotland. here, a touch of frost
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is quite likely and even elsewhere, a bit of a chilly start. first thing thursday start. first thing on thursday morning day itself, morning through the day itself, though, going to be though, it is going to be a showery many of us. though, it is going to be a shov heaviest many of us. though, it is going to be a shov heaviest showers any of us. though, it is going to be a shov heaviest showers willof us. though, it is going to be a shov heaviest showers will beis. though, it is going to be a shov heaviest showers will be in the heaviest showers will be in places towards the west. exposed to brisk winds. also some to the brisk winds. also some hefty showers towards far hefty showers towards the far south—east well , likely to be south—east as well, likely to be driest across eastern areas and across central and northern scotland decent scotland with some decent sunshine but temperatures sunshine here. but temperatures a little on the side . highs a little on the low side. highs around celsius. milder around 8 or 9 celsius. milder further south with highs around 11 or 12. friday may then gets off to a bit of a damp start across southern areas with some showery rain. but that clears away. and then we end up with a northerly wind. and in that northerly wind. and in that northerly going to northerly wind, we're going to see frequent showers see the most frequent showers across northern parts of scotland, ireland and scotland, northern ireland and perhaps into western scotland, northern ireland and perieastern into western scotland, northern ireland and perieastern coaststo western scotland, northern ireland and perieastern coasts elsewhere, and eastern coasts elsewhere, staying dry staying drier and more dry weather come as we go into weather to come as we go into the weekend before some wind and rain arrives later . bye the weekend before some wind and rain arrives later. bye bye . rain arrives later. bye bye. >> coming next time on the dinosaur hour. >> not only is cancel culture real, but it's so bad we're going to be studying it in 100
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the top stories from the newsroom. >> the prime minister has welcomed assurances from the metropolitan police that the pro—palestinian march planned for this weekend during the nation's annual period of remembrance will be routed away from the cenotaph in london on rishi sunak spoke with the met police chief sir mark rowley today amid concerns that the march could interfere with remembrance commemorations. in a statement , though, the prime statement, though, the prime minister described the planned march as still being disrespectful and offensive. london mayor sadiq khan says the policing of protests shouldn't be political , and the met be political, and the met insisted it was keeping the weekend's events under constant review . but there was a warning review. but there was a warning from the transport secretary, mark harper, who said sir mark rowley will be held accountable for any disruption . for any disruption. >> this is the operational responsibility of the commissioner of the metropolitan police, the legal powers are his to request that he has to make a judgement based on the all of
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the factors that he has to take

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