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. earlier in force of the law. earlier in central london, police arrested 92 count of protesters following a number of clashes to prevent a breach of the peace. they included members of the english defence league and other far right groups, the home secretary has been accused of stoking tensions and emboldening the far right. she describes pro—palestinian rallies as hate marches. our home and security editor mark white sent this report from westminster . report from westminster. >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main road going over westminster bndge. main road going over westminster bridge . we've had protesters bridge. we've had protesters from both sides, pro—palestinian palestinian protesters and also these counter—protesters here. they have been clashing sporadically . as two groups have sporadically. as two groups have come together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolitan police and these other forces who are here today on mutual aid. but it remains is fairly tense, a bit volatile , fairly tense, a bit volatile, while when people from time to
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time are coming together as they head for the tube station to head for the tube station to head home long of police here in parliament square to be able to deal with any eventuality in the hours ahead. well, the scuffles didn't marred today's two minute silence, which police say was respectfully observed . respectfully observed. >> well, the uk paused on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month to mark armistice day and to honour those who've served in conflict since world war ii. veteran john dennett said the servicemen and women who made the ultimate sacrifice must remembered . must always be remembered. >> we must never forget what happened eight years ago through all the wars that enabled us to be where we are . like we're
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be where we are. like we're lucky . and the kids i hope. lucky. and the kids i hope. i always said to the kids , without always said to the kids, without remembrance and remember it because if you don't, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those lads who gave their life like and it runs into thousands. >> finally , the israeli military >> finally, the israeli military says it will help evacuate babies trapped in gaza's largest hospital tomorrow. palestinian officials say two babies have died at the al shifa hospital and dozens more are at risk. operations have been suspended there amid dwindling supplies and an increase in military activity nearby . israel claims activity nearby. israel claims hamas has placed command centres in and around the hospital and is using civilians as shields , is using civilians as shields, which the militant group denies. the red cross says it's shocked and appalled by the images and reports emerging from al—shifa . reports emerging from al—shifa. this is gb news live across the uk. that is it for the moment.
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i'll be back with more later. but now it's over to . mark but now it's over to. mark >> my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hour's time. in my big opinion , my tribute to in my big opinion, my tribute to our fallen war heroes who have given us more than words can say. they're gone , but not say. they're gone, but not forgotten. and their legacy lives on to this day . in the forgotten. and their legacy lives on to this day. in the big story, we'll reflect on remembrance weekend with british army veteran ed mcguinness. why do these memorials, memorials matter so much? why are they so important ? matter so much? why are they so important? and a bit of fun on a saturday night. my mark meets guest is one of the big stars of 90s pop music who went from selling 6 million albums worldwide to booze and drugs. hell, jemmy constable from the popular band 911 tells his popular boy band 911 tells his amazing story shortly. and in my take at ten, charles at 75, a man who had the hardest act to follow in queen elizabeth ii. my honest verdict on our new king. also has prince harry bitten off
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more than he can chew by suing the daily mail. more than he can chew by suing the daily mail . and is donald the daily mail. and is donald trump considering running for president? alongside us, tv news icon tucker carlson. i'll be asking the queen of american showbiz royal and political reporting kinsey schofield . reporting kinsey schofield. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. tonight, leadership coach speaker and social commentator adrian hayes, tv personality and broadcaster dr. ingnd personality and broadcaster dr. ingrid tarrant, and author and journalist laura dodsworth . with journalist laura dodsworth. with with their refusal to condemn hamas are the left on the wrong side of history? i'll be asking fearless political commentator olly london. plus i'll get the views of my top pundits and gary lineker has been tweeting . lineker has been tweeting. that's right. very quiet on the 7th of october. but all over it today. find out why shortly. plus, the most important part of the show, your emails, they come straight to my laptop. mark at
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gbnews.com okay, folks, a very busy two hours. we start with my big opinion . on two minutes is big opinion. on two minutes is all they were asking for were two minutes of silence to remember the loss of almost a million british soldiers in world war i. and today, at least some of the country gathered to pay some of the country gathered to pay their respects to those brave souls , often very young brave souls, often very young men who left our shores and perished in an ultimately victorious battle against murderous german imperialism . murderous german imperialism. can you imagine the grim scenes in the world war i? trenches when british troops often with missing limbs and rotting feet , missing limbs and rotting feet, had to navigate this subterranean, fetid swamp of human horror as they climbed over the corpses of their friends and colleagues to gather more munitions. what were the emotions running through these
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young men's heads when they were ordered to go over the top? spnng ordered to go over the top? spring out of these wretched subsoil cavities into no man's land, a near empty field soon to be filled with a monsoon of enemy bullets. how do you say thank you ? you can't. what thank you? you can't. what they've done is to big the debt too vast to be repaid and all the treasure in the world is not 1% of the value that they've given to this great nation. they stood up to tyranny face down the enemy, and they lost their lives, but not in vain . the lives, but not in vain. the victory was glorious . in both victory was glorious. in both 1918 and in 1945. good prevailed over evil. that is their legacy . over evil. that is their legacy. thatis over evil. that is their legacy. that is their achievement. and thatis that is their achievement. and that is what we remember today . that is what we remember today. this weekend, the way that we can thank our fallen heroes is to appreciate every day, every houn to appreciate every day, every hour, every minute, every second
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of what they've given us. dear mocracy, peace, freedom. the rule of law. these things are precious . yes. and as the world precious. yes. and as the world descends into further chaos in 2023, we're reminded that they cannot be taken for granted and must continue to be fought for. in our darkest times. it's often art which provides the light, which is why we turn to the war. poet rupert brooke, who wrote the poem the soldier , shortly the poem the soldier, shortly after he enlisted . in august after he enlisted. in august 1914. in here's what he wrote if i should die, think only this of me that there's some corner of a foreign field that is forever england. there shall be in that rich earth, a richer dust concealed a dust whom england bore shaped , shaped, made aware bore shaped, shaped, made aware gave once her flowers to love, her ways to roam a body of england's breathing english air washed by the rivers blessed by
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the sons of . washed by the rivers blessed by the sons of. home washed by the rivers blessed by the sons of . home well, the poet the sons of. home well, the poet that wrote that rupert brooke lost his life a year later at the age of 27. so to all our the age of 27. soto all our fallen heroes, we honour your memory. we thank you. and we thank your generation nation. because without yours, we wouldn't have ours . wouldn't have ours. now now, reacting to the big stories of the day, i'm delighted to welcome into the studio three fabulous political commentators. we have none other than leadership. coach and speaker adrian hayes, tv personality and broadcaster ingnd personality and broadcaster ingrid tarrant, and best selling author and journalist laura dodsworth . laura, do you feel dodsworth. laura, do you feel that the war dead of world war one got their due
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acknowledgement today? no, no . acknowledgement today? no, no. >> i can tell you that they didn't. at 11 this morning i was sitting in a cafe with my 16 year old son actually, and i was reminded of my great grandfather, who signed up when he was 15, too young . he was 15, too young. >> obviously, he had to lie about his age. he ended up becoming youngest, a becoming the youngest, a lieutenant commander in the british navy, ever highly decorated . decorated. >> so we had people that weren't even old to go to war who even old enough to go to war who wanted to fight for this country. and precise point country. and my precise point is, i sat there with my son and i thought, gosh, young men and boys as young as you died , boys as young as you died, 880,000 british soldiers died in world war i. >> nobody else in the cafe acknowledged the two minute silence, which i felt a bit sad about. i said i set an alarm on my phone and my son and i sat there in silence and then i've come up to london today and i'll be not think this be honest, i do not think this is the day protesting is the right day for protesting because on remembrance day we are remember them , are supposed to remember them, their duty and their sacrifice. and it's a day that shouldn't be
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sullied by other kwasi is also there have been slogans today which are i think they would make the soldiers who fought in world war ii turn in their grave. i saw a star of david intertwined with a swastika . intertwined with a swastika. whatever political point i've seen, that person was arrested and put in the back of a van by police. not that i know of. and i think we should talk about the arrests later in show . it's arrests later in the show. it's too big for me to like too big for me to just like cover off now. there's cover off now. but there's a terrible disparity. see a two tier policing, the tier policing, as the home secretary would but, you secretary would say. but, you know, whatever political secretary would say. but, you know,someone' political secretary would say. but, you know,someone is political secretary would say. but, you know,someone is tryingtical secretary would say. but, you know,someone is trying to al secretary would say. but, you know,someone is trying to make point someone is trying to make about conflict about the israel—gaza conflict to intertwine the star of david, when 6 million jews were killed in the war with a swastika is worse than bad taste. it's racial hatred. so i think that i think that the people who died for our freedoms would feel disrespected on many levels by the protests today. >> yes. i mean, the point , >> yes. i mean, the point, ingrid, is that we shouldn't be talking about these other protests. we should be talking about young men
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about the young men predominantly young men who lost their lives . in between 1914 and their lives. in between 1914 and 1918. >> yes , i agree to a point. >> yes, i agree to a point. absolutely. we should. because that essentially today is designated to remembering the fallen. its armistice day. actually, tomorrow is the remembrance day. so it was a putting down of arms and i disagree with laura, actually, because i think it is absolutely appropriate that the protests went ahead today because it's about peace and for people to be that were on the march. i was there in spirit. i couldn't be there in spirit. i couldn't be there to be labelled hammers supporters , anti—semites and all supporters, anti—semites and all sorts of adjectives is actually extremely unfair. and it's not it's not correct. but would you be comfortable to walk with hamas supporters and to walk with anti—semites who are clearly there in numbers? but the thing is, i think we have to question who are the hamas supporters as well? are they supporting hamas in the extreme sense of the word? i don't
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sense of the word? no, i don't think so. they're supporting the freedom liberation of freedom and the liberation of palestine , and i'd be very happy palestine, and i'd be very happy to walk side by side with them. and i was in spirit, as i say. and i was in spirit, as i say. and that's why i think today was appropriate . appropriate. >> but, adrian, do you >> but, adrian, what do you think that? well, i'm not think about that? well, i'm not going to talk about the protests at i'm grateful for your >> i'm grateful for your monologue, mark, because i think we back to our we need to get back to our armistice what it was armistice about what it was today. you did very, today. and you did that very, very so contrary. i was in very well. so contrary. i was in lymington new forest. now we're unique because we have remembrance. sunday, the last few years, and i've been abroad most of my life, but but armistice day itself was just a few people recognise it today . few people recognise it today. say saturday. maybe it was saturday. the saturday. let me to market. the whole quiet . there whole market went quiet. there was a canon from the church. a lot veterans. lot of military veterans. i'm a veteran myself, as you know, and total silence for two minutes. and i thought it was very, very powerful. and i actually think that country that we that this country that we respect armistice and remember , respect armistice and remember, it's sunday, perhaps even more now than we used to. i think it's become very, very special
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part this weekend. so thank you for your monologue because i and the other point i was going to say is i don't think of us, say is i don't think any of us, even of us who served even those of us who served in the didn't serve in the army and i didn't serve in combat, but cannot imagine what it conditions, what it the conditions, what they went through. my grandfather, by the way, served on the eastern front, the most front, which was the most horrendous whole of horrendous front of the whole of world war. he was actually world war two. world war i. and you know, the conditions, we cannot imagine it. and i think we do owe these all these veterans such a great respect. >> well, yes, it's worth remembering , isn't it, in that remembering, isn't it, in that big opinion that i've just done that people had trench foot , that people had trench foot, which is basically a condition in which your foot was rotting whilst you're still alive. people had missing limbs. there was a gallows humour in those trenches and you had this idea of over the top and into of going over the top and into no man's land, which meant, didn't it? adrian for the most part, certain yeah part, almost certain death. yeah >> as i said, i don't think. and they don't we've always said about military heroes from world war i. world war ii have been the stoicism and just they
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didn't they didn't have the victimhood. they didn't complain didn't they didn't have the vilotnhood. they didn't complain didn't they didn't have the vi lot of)od. they didn't complain didn't they didn't have the vi lot of them hey didn't complain didn't they didn't have the vi lot of them obviously complain didn't they didn't have the vi lot of them obviously had plain a lot of them obviously had mental health problems, but they did was their did it because that was their duty. fighting an evil and just did what they were ordered. now a lot of a lot of the decisions were obviously bad in at the time men were sent to sent sent to death needlessly. to their death needlessly. >> you know, you >> but you know, and you probably that probably wouldn't have that today i mean, but you do have >> no, i mean, but you do have cannon think you cannon fodder. i still think you have fodder . have cannon fodder. >> do. i wonder if >> you probably do. i wonder if on that scale, though, laura, i don't know how well you remember your a—level your gcse history or a—level perhaps, stood out to perhaps, but that stood out to me when i was school of what me when i was at school of what these soldiers went through in these soldiers went through in the and on those the somme and on those battlefields. it was truly barbaric, wasn't it? >> absolute barbarism. and people were used as cannon fodder. i don't think people would sign up for it now. i think there was a story not that long ago about how the navy were struggling recruit people on struggling to recruit people on submarines wouldn't submarines because they wouldn't have wi—fi. and tiktok so respect their pronouns . perhaps respect their pronouns. perhaps times times have changed, but actually, can i address one
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thing that ingrid said before , thing that ingrid said before, and that's about people not being pro—hamas when they march. and i think a lot of people that march would not want to align themselves with hamas . i mean, themselves with hamas. i mean, after all, if you see yourself as being on the side of the angels, you know, a liberation front , is obviously difficult front, it is obviously difficult to what hamas have to acknowledge what hamas have done. but it's important to recognise that four out of the six groups that are organising these pro—palestinian marches have links to hamas. yeah and one of them, the muslim brotherhood just pasted recently on facebook, said celebrating the battle of khobar , which is the battle of khobar, which is when mohammed led muslim armies to slaughter and subjugate jews. so this is very embedded and intertwined with the organisation of the marches , organisation of the marches, even if not everybody who's marching understands that. >> briefly ah , some of those >> briefly ah, some of those marches you know, they come from maybe a good place, but are they? hamas is useful idiots. yes >> it's mindless herbivores. >> it's mindless herbivores. >> you wouldn't say the same.
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>> you wouldn't say the same. >> no, i wouldn't. i think i think we've really got to divide because it's like the israelis. but then you could we're not talking about the zionists . i talking about the zionists. i think we've started. we've got to really kind of put these in little pigeon holes here. and hamas, i think, is covering too broad. i think that word covers too many aspects. you've got your extremes and then you've got the hamas, which was the political party that was voted in, been in the in, that's been in the equivalent sinn fein, equivalent of sinn fein, perhaps, which is proscribed as a by the a terrorist organisation by the uk , even the uk government, even the political arm of it. >> whole caboodle >> the whole caboodle is there again, is another question there. >> the bbc are not calling them terrorists. you know , when we terrorists. you know, when we have an all that or that is an argument to persuade the bbc to describe hamas as they are in law. >> and in fact which is a terrorist organisation. i'll tell you what we're going to do misleading the public narrative, what to do, what we're going to do, an unusually unprecedented what we're going to do, an unurshow unprecedented what we're going to do, an unurshow is unprecedented what we're going to do, an unurshow is we'reirecedented what we're going to do, an unurshow is we're goingented what we're going to do, an unurshow is we're going to ed what we're going to do, an unurshow is we're going to stay this show is we're going to stay on as this is the on this because as this is the topic of the story and topic of the big story next and you're it. you're part of it. >> so do you want to bring you back in very shortly? because
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coming next in the story, coming up next in the big story, we're reflect on we're going to reflect on remembrance weekend with british army just army veteran ed mcguinness. just how important are these memorials? why do they matter thatis memorials? why do they matter that is .
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> 5. >> 5. >> well, a big reaction to my big opinion in which i have remembered the war dead of world war i. this is armistice day and a big reaction on email. jim says, mark, thanks for your lovely opening. many british people do not like the islamic cult because of the damage they've done to our country. so simon says mark it seems that if you promote terror ism or anti—semitic or bluntly racist, then you can shout as loudly as you want without any consequences . that includes as consequences. that includes as much violence as you want to make. if you call them out, you'll be arrested, battered by the police , as well as becoming the police, as well as becoming a target . well, that is from
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a target. well, that is from simon, who calls himself mr frustrated . keep those emails frustrated. keep those emails coming, mark gbnews.com. we will reflect on the policing of today's events and whether it was fair or even handed. so we're looking fonnard to doing that in the company, by the way, of the very compelling political commentator olly london on. but it's time now for the big story. and let's get more on the remembrance weekend events in the company of british army veteran ed mcguinness. ed thank you so much forjoining us. why is this weekend important? >> good evening , mark. well, >> good evening, mark. well, firstly, can i thank you for having me on your show and you're opening a dialogue was really compelling and i think it's hugely important that we take at least one day every yean take at least one day every year. i know we have armistice day today and remembrance sunday tomorrow, but i think it's important that we take at least one day every year to remember
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those who have died for the cause of freedom that has given us the country that we have today. and we only ask for one day a year and one sunday a year to remember those who have gone before us. and a lot of people around this country realise that that's a very important and sacred moment. and i was down in southampton today. i was outside of london today and everyone in the large shopping centre there stood still at 11:00 and observed two minute silence with dignity . and you had previously dignity. and you had previously you were suggesting that many people should do the same. and i hope tomorrow we can reflect as a nation again on the sacrifices that our forefathers and sisters , forefathers and mothers made for our freedoms . for our freedoms. >> brilliant. now, josh, would you mind just checking the quality of the sound, make sure it's up to scratch. othennise, we'll need to. we'll need to pause for a moment. whilst pause for a moment. but whilst we issues, we look at those sound issues, apologies, especially you're apologies, especially if you're listening on the radio, but i
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want to ask whether ex—military figures have been told not to wear their medals on public transport. is a scandal . wear their medals on public transport. is a scandal. i don't know if ed is still with us. so ed, what do you think about that ex—military figures have been told not to wear their medals on pubuc told not to wear their medals on public transport for fear of causing trouble. what do you make that? make of that? >> absolutely. you can hear me okay as the sound better now. >> i think that might be slightly better. yeah. thank >> i think that might be sligh.y better. yeah. thank >> i think that might be sligh wantter. yeah. thank >> i think that might be sligh want to. yeah. thank >> i think that might be sligh want to make. thank >> i think that might be sligh want to make surenk >> i think that might be sligh want to make sure that you. i want to make sure that everyone hears your pearls of wisdom. ed brilliant, brilliant. >> thank you. and, well, i personally haven't heard that at. and, you know, i grew up in northern ireland and i'm very conscious that there is a security issues and still around and wearing of military memorabilia on public transport. however, i would say that we should be proud of the service that we've that we have. and i've many veterans around i've seen many veterans around today. cadets today. i've seen many cadets wearing uniform in southampton
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city centre raising money for the royal british legion. i think it's really important that we have that visible picture on the ground so that people can see what they're andre portasio four fs i think it's terribly important, isn't do you think it was right for the pro—palestine march to go ahead ? march to go ahead? >> i don't know . >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> and look, i'm very , very or i >> and look, i'm very, very or i believe the freedom of speech and freedom of expression is very, very important. and that's what our our for fathers fought for and fought to . and fought to for and fought to. and fought to maintain and make sure we had the right to do . however the right to do. however i believe that what a lot of these people in these protest want to do is persuade people of their point of view and do and to point of view and to do and to persuade people of your point of view. you need to bring people together that together and believe that marching , this this marching on this day, this this day that's sacred to many, many people. this country just
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people. and in this country just drives wedge between what they drives a wedge between what they want achieve and what they want to achieve and what they want to achieve and what they want to achieve and what they want to do. look, i am all for freedom of expression . it's freedom of expression. it's really important that we have the ability to go out and protest peaceful rally for what we believe to be correct. but i don't believe that we should do so on this day, this one day, like i mentioned, this one day of the year, that a lot of people in this country hold above all others. and in a very personal and important style of remembrance. so, no, i don't believe it was the right thing to do. and as we have seen , to do. and as we have seen, there has been there has been trouble in the streets, which is really over shadowed the meaning of what armistice day is. and i think that's been a real shame. and i think all it's done is drive a division up rather than rather than the true meaning of the day, which is to remember people that died for our freedom i >> and a privilege to have you on the program. thank you so much for joining
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on the program. thank you so much forjoining us. and can i salute you for your service to this country? ed mcguinness there. and listen, apologies if you were having trouble hearing exactly what he had to say. but what he did have to say was very compelling. and now coming up next pundits next with tonight's top pundits with their refusal condemn with their refusal to condemn hamas , are the left on the wrong hamas, are the left on the wrong side of history ? well, i'll be side of history? well, i'll be asking brilliant pundits as asking my brilliant pundits as well special guest, well as a very special guest, the political the fearless political commentator olly london, who's been watching the action all day long, have the police been balanced? have they been fair ? balanced? have they been fair? olly will reflect on that, plus , olly will reflect on that, plus, gary lineker been on twitter gary lineker has been on twitter very quiet on the 7th of october for very noisy today . what's he for very noisy today. what's he been saying? olly london will fill us in. plus in a mark dolan tonight exclusive people's poll we've been asking with their support for pro—palestine marches the woke left on the marches are the woke left on the wrong side of history? well, the results are in and i shall reveal all
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>> welcome back to the show . the >> welcome back to the show. the emails are coming in thick and fast. this from alan dear mark, good evening from selective coverage today. interesting the police drew batons for the first time today aimed purely at those deemed far right for carrying the union flag. the hamas supporters, as usual, using children and women for cover . children and women for cover. let's have a look. what else is catherine got to say? catherine has said dear mark, isn't part of the point of remembering the fallen and all of those who have fought for our freedoms to remind us that we must never let this happen again? so in that sense, isn't a reminder to try at all costs to maintain peace? and therefore, wouldn't the protesters vying for ceasefire be better ? respecting this day be better? respecting this day and realising that in recognising those who have died for us, we are indeed reminding ourselves to find any solution but war. if we can, which is apparently what they think they're fighting for. a fascinating and very nuanced email. thank you , catherine.
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email. thank you, catherine. i'll get to more of your emails shortly. market news.com shortly. market gb news.com reacting to the big stories of the day. we have leadership coach speaker and he's very shy about this, but he served in the military with great distinction in adrian hayes, tv personality broadcast from a very old friend of mine, ingrid tarrant, as is the fabulous journalist and broadcaster laura dodsworth. now let's get more on the fallout from today's marches , which of from today's marches, which of course coincided with armistice day. i'm joined now by the political commentator olly london. olly i know you've been watching the situation in central london very closely all day. what do you make of the marches that we saw today? were they marching for peace as you know, today, mark was supposed to be a day to honour veterans, to be a day to honour veterans, to honour fallen service members that have served our country. >> it was actually the total opposite. we saw people wearing hamas headbands outside parliament, openly in the streets . you know, we saw people streets. you know, we saw people fire fireworks at police
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officers and 150 people were detained while police searched them. you know, we saw scenes at victoria station where uk government official michael gove was harassed by a mob of people that chased him down and attempted to attack him. you know, these are not peaceful protests. >> if these were protests fighting for the palestinian people, mark, they would be first to condemn hamas because at the end of the day, hamas are the ones holding palestinian people hostage. >> this tweet from the >> well, this tweet from the political editor of sun was political editor of the sun was very interesting. >> josh, get a second, >> josh, if you get a second, let's grab that. harry cole tweet and here's what he said. he's referring to the reaction of the far right protesters near the cenotaph morning. and the cenotaph this morning. and islamic extremists later in the day. he said scenes this morning, disgraceful . all scenes morning, disgraceful. all scenes this evening, morning, disgraceful. all scenes this evening , disgraceful, but this evening, disgraceful, but a disgraceful number of elected politicians and commentary at clowns choosing to ignore the latter after piling in all morning. what does he mean by
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that? >> well, you know, you also have sadiq khan saying the same thing, basically condemning british people that came out today to try and honour veteran . today to try and honour veteran. and, you know, the rhetoric from many left wing commentators and sadiq khan has been condemnation of british people . so know if of british people. so know if they want to stop this anger on they want to stop this anger on the streets, which we saw today, which, you know, is bad on both sides, they need to condemn people taking to the streets, praising hamas and calling for genocide against jewish people. so, you know , most british so, you know, most british people very peaceful . i saw people are very peaceful. i saw on twitter today all of the protests. there scuffles , protests. there were scuffles, of course, with some british activists. but at the end of the day , you know, the anger was day, you know, the anger was there because of the politicians sowing division . sowing division. >> listen, i'm going to bring my pundits in in just a moment. but last only for now. olly gary lineker has been on twitter. he was very quiet on the 7th of october. so has he been on twitter today to condemn hamas ?
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twitter today to condemn hamas? >> you know, he never condemns hamas. he supports what's going on with the pro—palestinian protest because , you know, and protest because, you know, and someone that works for the bbc, mark, is supposed to be impartial. we just saw what happened vorderman. yet happened to carol vorderman. yet gary goes gary lineker seemingly goes untouched to the bbc, who's allowed to stoke the flames of anger this country . and it is anger in this country. and it is utterly shameful he has utterly shameful that he has failed the october failed to condemn the october seven massacre. the whole world should be condemning that atrocity. >> okay. well, stay with us, ollie, and thank you so much for joining us, because it's very interesting what you've had to say online today. and you've gone large audience with gone at a large audience with your coverage. but let's bring in i can, laura dodsworth and in if i can, laura dodsworth and of course, ingrid tarrant and adrian hayes. and adrian. what's your appraisal of how even handed the police have been today or othennise ? today or othennise? >> i think the police have been for once because i suella braverman is a critique of the police actually support it. i don't think she was right to
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call the march a hate march. every march has the good, the bad, and i would say the ignorant on this one. but the police have been even hand. i think they've got their act together now. i'm personally and it's actually i just got to bnng it's actually i just got to bring this in if i could mark of course you know most military veterans i've heard on the ainnaves today have actually supported the protest, right supported the protest, the right to protest . look, we you know, to protest. look, we you know, we for our freedom. we fought for our freedom. that's the great cries of that's one of the great cries of remembrance day. think, remembrance day. and i think, you in our values of you know, it's in our values of constitutional right to free speech, right to protest. speech, the right to protest. and right offend . and yes, the right to offend. but as long as it's within certain boundaries, obstruction, obviously violence and inciting violence, when you go through there, when you cross those boundaries, then you are in problems police need to problems and the police need to be evenhanded and arrest people. problems and the police need to be eoffenceied and arrest people. problems and the police need to be eoffenceied anlisrrrest people. problems and the police need to be eoffenceied anlis thet people. the offence is the is the difficult one racism. we also would also abhor. but where do you take offence? i'm very hesitant to go down this offence route about certain things because where do you stop ? because where do you stop? because then into the because we're then into the onune because we're then into the online taking offence online everyone taking offence at i it's got
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at everything. i think it's got to on to be clear boundaries on protest right , what is protest what is right, what is wrong, what is illegal and what is legal. >> laura where you stand on >> laura where do you stand on this debate which raging this debate which is raging onune this debate which is raging online in between far right protesters this morning and islamic extremists later in the day ? day? >>i day? >> i think it was decided in advance that there would be a certain story. and it's quite similar to story that we saw similar to the story that we saw with protests with the with lockdown protests with the sarah everard with the sarah everard vigil, with the counter protest to blm, the police can take quite an aggressive and vigorous approach to policing in order to create a number you'll number of arrests. so you'll see the the newspaper. the splash in the newspaper. here's headlines here's tonight's headlines for tomorrow. be think it's tomorrow. will be i think it's 92, far right yobs arrested . but 92, far right yobs arrested. but the thing is that more arrests will happen later because after those newspapers were put to bed, there were fireworks set off the streets. michael gove off in the streets. michael gove was mobbed. the protest went outside synagogues. i saw it reported had to reported that police had to escort jewish people out of synagogues, a travesty . synagogues, which is a travesty. it is disgraceful in this country , especially on remember country, especially on remember this day. i think we have to ask
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ourselves , is this is this ourselves, is this is this a thing? is this just going to keep happening every saturday? today, there were placards i saw that were zionist. zionism is the disease gaza twinned with auschwitz ? i mean, this i do auschwitz? i mean, this i do agree that people should have the right to offend and the right to protest. i'm a staunch free speech supporter as you all know, but some of the slogans , know, but some of the slogans, some of the chanting has gone into a festival of anti—semitism and calls for ethnic cleansing . and calls for ethnic cleansing. >> what do you think about this, ingnd? >> what do you think about this, ingrid? where do you see that balance between reporting of protesters this morning who had the union jacks and the saint george's flag versus what appears to be the manifestation of anti—semitic islamic extremism? later in the day ? extremism? later in the day? >> first of all, i think the this happened a few weeks ago as well with the saint george's flag and the police . they didn't flag and the police. they didn't arrest, but they confronted people flying the saint george's flag, which was completely ridiculous . that's wokeism . um
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ridiculous. that's wokeism. um you know, call me cynical, call me highly suspicious , whatever. me highly suspicious, whatever. but, you know , i think that but, you know, i think that without the excess police presence , it's. i think this presence, it's. i think this would have been absolutely fine. but they were expecting problems and trouble and they kind of got it. it's setting the stage and it. it's setting the stage and it was inviting it. and i bet, you know, suella braverman is actually quite pleased now. i'm sorry to be so sarcastic and cynical and, you know, whatever actually , i'm not sorry at all. actually, i'm not sorry at all. i'm going to say it as it is. that's that's very much how i feel , too. and i think this has feel, too. and i think this has been whipped up to create just a bigger divide to keep the argument going, make the argument going, make the argument bigger and divide people more and more and starting to get to the extreme points of view. so you will get this you're an anti semite, you're a whatever you are. >> okay . well, ollie, what do >> okay. well, ollie, what do you think is the trouble we've seen basically the fault of
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suella braverman, the home secretary >> so absolutely not. i think suella braverman has been one of the few politicians that has been very strong on this issue . been very strong on this issue. he called it a hate march and there is freedom of expression. it's to good be to express. but we have seen so much hate on the streets. mark why should jewish people have to fear going out of their homes? been over six their homes? it's been over six weeks now, so many jewish people are terrified. we're seeing anti semites signs and placards across the city. we are seeing war memorials being desecrated with . it is with palestinian flags. it is there's a difference between free speech and a hate march. and believe today we've seen and i believe today we've seen so many signs hamas symbols. so many signs of hamas symbols. we've isis flags. this is we've seen isis flags. this is wrong. and where is the government action on this? why are instead condemning are they instead condemning suella braverman for her comments? they not comments? why are they not taking the that taking action on the people that are this hatred against are inciting this hatred against jewish people? >> best selling books focus >> your best selling books focus very much on power of very much on the power of language . do very much on the power of language. do you think that suella bravermans language was inappropriate in the run up to
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this weekend? whether it was her article in the times or previously discussing and referencing these hate marches? well, personally , you know, i well, personally, you know, i mean, i didn't disagree with her article. >> i've seen two tiered policing for myself . so during the for myself. so during the pandemic, i agree with what she was saying. it was at a lot down protest. i was surrounded by police who tried to arrest me. i was just walking into well away from the protest with a press card around my neck. and it was extremely card around my neck. and it was extr(a|ely card around my neck. and it was extr(a strategy of streets lined saw a strategy of streets lined with vans and police picking off people at the edges of the protest, like sharks going around a shoal of fish to create around a shoal of fish to create a volume of arrests. so there would be a story. so i've seen a volume of arrests. so there woutiereda story. so i've seen a volume of arrests. so there woutiered policing,o i've seen a volume of arrests. so there woutiered policing, ande seen a volume of arrests. so there woutiered policing, and since| two tiered policing, and since that haven't quite trusted that day i haven't quite trusted the approach tests. so the police approach tests. so i didn't disagree with her article at i think that at all. i think that unfortunately, that some people will blame her for creating a febrile atmosphere. but i think that that's the tail wagging the dog. i think that actually she just called it absolutely right .
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just called it absolutely right. >> okay. i mean, what do you think about the language braverman used , adrian? was it braverman used, adrian? was it inflammatory ? inflammatory? >> she well, i found myself agreeing with half of what she said, which is about policing. and as laura says, the lockdown, the riot police just coming in, the riot police just coming in, the bombs on country , very the bombs on country, very violent demonstrations. police taking the knee, police arresting silent prayers. this even as late as this as late this week . the inconsistency this week. the inconsistency with policing and i think they just take the easy option. so i agree with that. i don't agree with the labelling. i've got a big thing about labelling throughout anti—vax putin denier far right, far left, fascist communism .we're all doing this communism. we're all doing this labelling to and call this whole march a hate march which is why i'm with ingrid. i think there's the good, the the the good, the bad, the indifferent, you know, perhaps the side is more than the pro—hamas side is more than just the usual trouble suspects. but i'm guessing about 50% of the marchers were there for peace. but there's a significant minority who are also there for trouble. >> okay . my final thoughts,
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>> okay. my final thoughts, laura, maria, let's run that poll, if we can, before the break. final thoughts? >> well, i think when we talk about it being a hate march, it is strong language to use, but a phrase used which sounds phrase that's used which sounds very innocuous, from the to river literally river the sea, it literally calls the annihilation of calls for the annihilation of the state of israel. that is what means . and if you want what it means. and if you want to quote the same slogan as osama laden , be aware that's osama bin laden, be aware that's exactly you're doing . it's exactly what you're doing. it's straight from the 1988 hamas charter, which calls for the end of the country of israel and all the jews in it. it is hate the jews in it. so it is hate speech. it's a chant for ethnic cleansing. and so although people might be saying it because it's a pretty because they think it's a pretty slogan calling for peace, it's not about peace all. not about peace at all. >> okay. well, listen, it's over to folks. conducted to you folks. i conducted an exclusive tonight exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking with their for with their support for pro—palestinian marches , are the pro—palestinian marches, are the woke on the wrong of woke left on the wrong side of history? looks like history? well, it looks like a landslide, 86.2% say yes. and . landslide, 86.2% say yes. and. 13.8% say no . coming up in my
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show, says melvin . when are show, says melvin. when are remembrance weekend is over ? remembrance weekend is over? hopefully the idf send hamas to the graveyards. these palestinians will have no right to claim refugee status in the uk . gaza will become part of the uk. gaza will become part of the west bank with their own elected leader . how about west bank with their own elected leader. how about this from patrick who says , hi, mark, this patrick who says, hi, mark, this will probably too be long, but you can always split it up if you can always split it up if you want. look, patrick, let's do the whole email. come on. you've taken trouble, mark you've taken the trouble, mark gbnews.com the police says patrick again . go for the easy patrick again. go for the easy target won't be accused target so they won't be accused of racism . and i'm sure we'll of racism. and i'm sure we'll feel justified in beating the far right counter—protesters . far right counter—protesters. pro—palestine protesters again left alone to spout their bile chant, their hate and wave their inciting banners. the anti—semitism is horrific, says patrick. and everyone seems to want to ignore it and brush it under the carpet . it strikes me under the carpet. it strikes me that jewish people are the most inoffensive on the planet. why is everyone calling for a ceasefire when it's never going to happen? change the record. suella braverman is a hero. an
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and echoes everything the british public think. also so it seems that everyone seems to have forgotten that ukraine is still at war. doesn't seem to be important enough to feature on the news anymore . so frustrated the news anymore. so frustrated with everything going down the says patrick. there you go. well hard to disagree . i mean, not hard to disagree. i mean, not the most elegant language . but the most elegant language. but patrick, are you happy that i read the whole email? the reason why i did is because the most important part of the show is your feedback and your emails. so keep them coming. at so keep them coming. mark at gbnews.com listen, where we gbnews.com listen, where do we start from here? i just wonder. laura whether these marches are to here stay now and whether a war that's happening in the middle east is being fought on the streets of britain too. >> i think there is a sense that it's a proxy war. obviously, this genuine, genuine and well placed concern about civilians in gaza. and i think most people would agree maybe not everybody on the march. most people would agree they want the people of gaza to be free from hamas,
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which uses them as human shields, allow to shields, doesn't allow there to be they have sharia be democracy. they have sharia law, is punished be democracy. they have sharia lav death is punished be democracy. they have sharia lav death or is punished be democracy. they have sharia lav death or imprisonmentished be democracy. they have sharia lav death or imprisonment .hed be democracy. they have sharia lav death or imprisonment . but by death or imprisonment. but women don't have agency . they're women don't have agency. they're terrorists. so i'm sure they want they want palestine to be free. but i think that it's not just that i do think there's something else. i think there's a kind of a self—hatred that's infected our whole culture. you know, in the west. yeah, definitely a sort of a wokeism, if you like , for want of a if you like, for want of a better term. >> history is shameful. >> history is shameful. >> yeah, well, there's a kind of a self—flagellation. and a general self—flagellation. and i sense, what's i think in that sense, what's going on in, israel gaza, going on in, in israel and gaza, which the grey. which has felt in the grey. alison pearson's column, she said like fight for said it's like a fight for civilisation. you've got civilisation. you've got civilisation and barbarism on on different sides here. i think there's a way in which it's playing our streets, but playing out in our streets, but i do a lot of people are i do think a lot of people are genuinely misplaced in, you know, they're marching, know, when they're marching, they what they don't understand what they're marching i they're really marching for. i am very , very worried, though, am very, very worried, though, for british jews. i know that, you know, because you've signed it. thank you. i convened it. and thank you. i convened the october declaration with a
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group of other people which was to show british jews that we stand in solidarity with them since the 7th of october, there's been over a thousand anti—semitic incidents, which is almost certainly under reported. and if you go onto the community security trust website, and i would urge people to and you read the things that are being said and done to jews in this country , we it's really shameful country, we it's really shameful . i was ashamed when i read about the rising anti—semitism in this country, which is why i set up now for british jews to think that streets of london think that the streets of london aren't for them as an aren't safe for them as an ongoing thing on saturdays is terrible. i know that somebody who works here, who's taken their star of david off, is their star of david off, this is not uncommon story. i have not an uncommon story. i have family who are related to israelis. they've had trouble in school. i know someone else whose jewish children are going to school in non uniform because it's not safe. this is terrible. and the idea that british jews can't just leave the synagogue
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quietly on a saturday night without needing police escorts is something that we should be very worried about as a country ashamed of and trying to address i >> ingrid, i'll come to you the second you nodded there when laura said that many on these marches don't really know what they're for. no there they're marching for. no there is ignorance with. is an ignorance with. >> a lot of. is it >> with a lot of. is it a fashionable cause? >> it is sort of the woke checklist . no. >> it is sort of the woke checklist. no. bingo. >> i'm gonna put the other side as woman. yeah. jewish people as a woman. yeah. jewish people are banned. >> palestine and the hamas acceptable. >> what laura said about hamas and this is the and this is to be fair, one thing that's come right from the start, from all commentators , is palestinians commentators, is palestinians supporting state supporting a palestinian state is hamas and is not hamas. hamas and palestinians different palestinians are two different things. think , you know, things. but i think, you know, having in the middle east having lived in the middle east for i we for many years, i think we underestimate the despair from arabs across the whole middle east about the failure in over 70 years to create a palestinian state. and this is what's coming out now. we've had the atrocity of 7th of october, which you cannot not fail to absolutely
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condemn from barbaric terrorists and everything . but we're moving and everything. but we're moving into this nuanced way about palestinian two state solution, all these things . and this is all these things. and this is where i think this emotions come out, as you said, mark, it's just this people aren't quite aware about what the history and what is actually going on in these these places . these in these places. >> ingrid, let's about your >> ingrid, let's talk about your point of view, because there are many people that want to go on those because want those marches because they want peace . they want this to end. peace. they want this to end. they want a ceasefire as well. do you want a ceasefire? >> completely. do . >> yes, completely. i do. >> yes, completely. i do. >> but what would you say to people in israel who argue that if there's a ceasefire that allows hamas to regroup and attack they've said attack again, which they've said they we're back to the they will, so we're back to the hamas now ? well, they are in hamas now? well, they are in control, aren't they? they are in control. >> and fatah in control of the west bank. and that was quite an interesting political decision. so you've got two political parties. it's almost as if palestine is divided into two. now, if you do look back at history, it was deemed
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convenient that you have two different parties , supposedly different parties, supposedly for palestine . an and this is for palestine. an and this is why israel wanted to come in to create the divide and rule, to create, to create upset. and i don't agree with a territory in which jews could live and be safe , not even necessarily that, safe, not even necessarily that, but just to create a problem within the palestinians so that then it would be much easier to just come in. yes, exactly . and just come in. yes, exactly. and already you're getting situations like this where palestinians are being thrown out of their homes because the jewish people get get priority , jewish people get get priority, which is wrong. and what laura was saying sort of like, you know, they want to be free from hamas. no they don't. they want to be free from israeli suppression in their in concentration camps. so when people talk about nazis and things like this, i can see why they're making that parallel, because they are they're engaged. it's a big open prison. >> i think you should be more
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temperate about using the term concentration camp or a concentration camp or a concentration camp or a concentration camp is something that's very, very different. >> imprisoned there, incarcerate noted in a this great big open space which is actually crammed andits space which is actually crammed and it's not a great big open space. it's quite concentrated well there's a border to israel the border to egypt. >> but the issue is what the future for the region and we're going to debate that when the papers come in at 1030. so do stick around. i've to say, stick around. i've got to say, i'm delighted . i think you'll i'm delighted. i think you'll all delighted that all be delighted that we're going something slightly going to do something slightly different of different at ten. we're not, of course, far from course, going far away from this story, it take at ten. story, but it might take at ten. it's charles 75, who it's charles at 75, a man who had the hardest act to follow in queen elizabeth ii. and my honest verdict on our new king. thatis honest verdict on our new king. that is at 10:00. how are we doing for time? need a countdown, folks. there you go. so look, let me know what you think about king charles. he think about king charles. has he had first year in charge? had a good first year in charge? he's it's my he's 75 on tuesday. it's my thoughts about his legacy and what kind of a start he's got to
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dream team . plus, tomorrow's dream team. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from my brilliant pundits . and it is, of brilliant pundits. and it is, of course, armistice day . and we course, armistice day. and we will be remembering our war dead. so a packed show, lots to get through. first, the news and . aaron very good evening to you. >> i'm aaron armstrong in the newsroom. the prime minister's condemned what he's described as violent scenes from far right groups and hamas sympathisers. after an eventful day of demonstrations in london, hundreds of thousands of people took part in a pro palestinian rally in the capital calling for a ceasefire in gaza , which a ceasefire in gaza, which coincided with armistice day . coincided with armistice day. the vast majority dispersed peacefully around 6:00, but police officers detained a breakaway group of around 150 people wearing face coverings and letting off fireworks in mayfair . with further clashes mayfair. with further clashes taking place near victoria station, a number of arrests were made, rishi sunak says all
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criminality must be met with the full and swift force of the law . full and swift force of the law. meanwhile, the assistant commissioner of the met police has described extreme violence from far right demonstrators towards officers protecting the cenotaph as extraordinary and deeply concerned . matt twist deeply concerned. matt twist said a group of counter protesters were largely intoxicated , aggressive football intoxicated, aggressive football hoougans intoxicated, aggressive football hooligans who spent most of the day attacking or threatening officers, seeking to prevent them confronting the main march. 92 people were arrested . mr 92 people were arrested. mr twist added that the intense debate about protest and policing has contributed to an increase in tensions . the home increase in tensions. the home secretary has been accused of stoking tensions and emboldening the far right. this week she's described pro—palestinian rallies as hate marchers. our home and security editor mark white sent this report from westminster . westminster. >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main road going over westminster bndge. main road going over westminster bridge . we've had protesters bridge. we've had protesters from both sides, pro—palestinian palestinian protesters and also
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these counter protesters here. there have been clashing sporadically as two groups have come together . but it's been come together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolitan police and these other forces who are here today on mutual aid . but it remains on mutual aid. but it remains fairly tense, a bit volatile when people from time to time are coming together as they head for the tube station to head home. lots of police here in parliament square to be able to deal with any eventuality in the hours ahead . hours ahead. >> well, in total, 126 people were arrested, although the scuffles didn't mar today's two minute silence at the cenotaph, which police say was respectfully observed . respectfully observed. by
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respectfully observed. by . on the 11th hour of the 11th by. on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, marking the end of world war i, the uk paused for armistice day, world war ii veteran john dennett says the servicemen and women who made the ultimate sacrifice must always be remembered . always be remembered. >> we must never forget what happened eight years ago through all the wars that enabled us to be where we are . like we're be where we are. like we're lucky . and the kids i hope. lucky. and the kids i hope. i always said to the kids , without always said to the kids, without remembrance and remember it because if you don't, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for those lads who gave their life like and it runs into thousands. finally the israeli military says it will help evacuate babies trapped in gaza's largest hospital tomorrow. >> palestinian officials say two babies have died at the al shifa hospital and dozens more are at risk of operations have been
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suspended amid dwindling suppues suspended amid dwindling supplies and an increase in military activity nearby . israel military activity nearby. israel claims hamas has placed command centres in and around the hospital and is using civilians as shields, which the militant group denies. the red cross says it's shocked and appalled by the images and reports from images and reports emerging from al—shifa . that is it for the al—shifa. that is it for the moment. i'll be back with more a little later this evening. but for now, it's over to . mark a for now, it's over to. mark a real treat to have aaron armstrong with us tonight. >> he returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight. what has prince harry bitten off more than he can chew by suing the daily mail? and is donald trump considering running for president wait for it president alongside wait for it us tv news icon tucker carlson . us tv news icon tucker carlson. i'll be asking the queen of american royal showbiz and political reporting kinsey schofield . plus, tomorrow's schofield. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages. and there's only one story in town. it is the remembrance weekend
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memorial , of course, armistice memorial, of course, armistice day tomorrow , remembrance day tomorrow, remembrance sunday, armistice day today. and then, of course , remembrance then, of course, remembrance sunday. tomorrow, we will ask about whether the police got the balance right and whether these marches are here to stay. so that's the papers with my pundits at exactly 1030. and tonight, we've got leadership, coach, speaker and social commentator adrian hayes, tv personality and broadcaster ingnd personality and broadcaster ingrid tarrant , and author and ingrid tarrant, and author and journalist, best selling i ought to say, drinks are on her. laura dodsworth got a very posh poppy. i'm quite jealous, folks. this show is all about opinion . mark show is all about opinion. mark dolan the home of dolan tonight is the home of diverse and pundits diverse opinion and my pundits don't on the israel don't agree on the israel question and will debate that at 1030, that's what this 1030, because that's what this show about . let me know show is all about. let me know your thoughts well. market your thoughts as well. market gb news.com. will also news.com. my pundits will also be headline be nominating their headline heroes and back page zero. so a busy hour. there will be sparks and a few fireworks. but first, my take . at ten following the
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my take. at ten following the late, great queen elizabeth has got to be the very definition of a tough gig. charles has been king in waiting for decades . he king in waiting for decades. he might be of a little older vintage than this new role requires, but he's fulfilled his duties with the energetic zeal of a far younger man for at the moment he put pen to paper signing himself into office, so to speak, after a brief battle with a leaky fountain pen he has already inscribed his name into the history of this country. how so? well, just like the best referee in a football game, the one being the one you don't notice. one being the one you don't nofice.so one being the one you don't notice. so so this elegant transfer of power from the queen to charles has been effortless and faultless , first of all. and and faultless, first of all. and it shouldn't matter. but he looks the part. what a stately figure he cut in parliament this week for the king's speech ceremony . unfortunately, this ceremony. unfortunately, this government looks to have run out ofideas government looks to have run out of ideas and run out of road. if you ever suffer from insomnia, skip the sleeping pills and
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watch the uninspiring snooze fest that was the government plan of action for this parliamentary term . charles, on parliamentary term. charles, on the other hand, is a compelling figure, especially when compared to the grey elected presidents of other countries whose mothers can't even remember their names . can't even remember their names. and what about those identikit european kings and queens who would barely get recognised at their local tesco ? charles looks their local tesco? charles looks like a king, talks, walks , acts like a king, talks, walks, acts and behaves like a king. when asked whether he would be a political campaigning monarch, he said , no, i'm not stupid. he said, no, i'm not stupid. understanding the difference between head of state and prince of wales? well, he's true to his word. and whilst his zeal for environmental issues burns inside his heart and no doubt occupies most of his daily conversations , he has kept those conversations, he has kept those thoughts to himself, understanding his role is to bnng understanding his role is to bring the nation together, not to divide it. one of the best
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dressed men in the country tailored to within an inch of his life . he tailored to within an inch of his life. he is a globally recognised figure. there's no one on the planet, however powerful , who will not meet him powerful, who will not meet him and grant him an audience like his mother. charles is box office the leading man to her, leading lady and lead. he must, as our country faces , worrying as our country faces, worrying divisions, some exposed very recently in the aftermath of the october, the seventh attack on israel divisions, which worryingly are playing out here on the streets of britain every weekend . we need a figure that weekend. we need a figure that represents the values of this country, our history and everything we stand for. charles, is that figure . and so charles, is that figure. and so far, flanked by his elegant, dignified and good humoured wife, queen camilla, he is performing brilliantly . so happy performing brilliantly. so happy birthday , charles. at the tender birthday, charles. at the tender age of 75, you've barely got started, but you're doing a great job. yes, indeed. king charles is doing a king.
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excellent . job your appraisal of excellent. job your appraisal of charles at 75, mark at gbviews@gbnews.com. are you happy with the king? i'll get to your email shortly, but let's hear from my top pundits leadership coach , speaker and leadership coach, speaker and social commentator adrian hayes, tv personality and broadcaster ingnd tv personality and broadcaster ingrid tarrant and author and journalist laura dodsworth . journalist laura dodsworth. well, ingrid, what do you think are you happy with king charles, who turns 75 on tuesday ? who turns 75 on tuesday? >> i'm happy with him, let's put it that way . finally i have to it that way. finally i have to admire him for the fact that he's been able to zip it. he's had 74 years and not, of course, from the day he was born. he didn't have an opinion, but he has been very vocal in the past and he's been you know, he's he's very politically he's got very politically involved . i haven't agreed with involved. i haven't agreed with a lot of what he's he's said. but it must be terribly hard having had most of his life
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having had most of his life having thoughts and voices and being able to be heard. so i think in a funny way, he's slightly perhaps handled that across to his son, prince william, who's kind of carrying on his work a little bit there, although i'm not taking anything away from him and his independence point viewpoints either . but no, he's all right. either. but no, he's all right. he's he's the figure, isn't he? i think it's very nice to have a monarchy in this country. >> oh, well, i think you're right. i think the monarchy is an eccentric idea on paper. but ijust an eccentric idea on paper. but i just think laura dodsworth it works. >> okay, well , first of all, i >> okay, well, first of all, i just want to say something on a personal note about him. my heart goes out to him for his problems with his son. anybody who's got children who've grown up knows that things can go wrong in relationships. and to have that play in public, have all that play in public, it's heartbreaking. so he's he's handled it with an enormous amount of dignity. but you say that he he promised to put his political campaigning side away. well he didn't. he stuck it on
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his lapel week. caused his lapel this week. he's caused some controversy for wearing a black poppy. i think he was either given bad advice or he's made himself the wrong political decision. the black poppy is supposed to commemorate people of colour who died in the wars . of colour who died in the wars. but the thing is, the poppy , the but the thing is, the poppy, the red poppy is for everybody of every race. and i think that this plays into very divisive racial identity politics. this should be just one, poppy, for everybody . everybody. >> and there is just one, poppy. it is poppy. >> othennise, what are we going to do? are we going to wear different colour poppies for all the different races? i mean, we're end up covered in we're going to end up covered in poppies. any sense. >> rainbow poppies. >> rainbow poppies. >> poppies don't. they >> rainbow poppies don't. they can't be far off. adrian don't. >> but, laura, isn't this just how bonkers the ultra political correct ideology is, is that if you say that people of colour are a certain race, require their own badge, that's exclusionary and incredibly
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patronising, it's divisive . patronising, it's divisive. >> we don't need it. we just need one. poppy for everybody. i mean, maybe adrian's got an opinion but i think he opinion on that, but i think he made decision. made he made the wrong decision. >> understand by the way, my >> i understand by the way, my sources me , laura, that sources tell me, laura, that that he was poorly advised. i don't think he'll be doing it again, think adrian, again, because i think adrian, he didn't quite realise the implications. invited to implications. he was invited to wear a black poppy to reflect the many black people who gave their lives for the freedom we now enjoy and we acknowledge and appreciate that. and who would say no? but actually that's the problem. it's a complete political bear trap that he stepped into this, poppy , for stepped into this, poppy, for decades has represented all colours , all creeds, all faiths, colours, all creeds, all faiths, everything of those who died in service. >> scots , irish, africans, you >> scots, irish, africans, you name it. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and from the commonwealth as well. we don't need different coloured all. so i'm coloured poppies at all. so i'm completely with laura on that one. on your monologue , mark, on one. on your monologue, mark, on how done. like how well he's done. i like charles. met him . he's charles. i've met him. he's a very interested with with you and what you've got to say. i'd
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give him an eight out of ten because my big problem with what he's saying is on the issue of climate change, because i'm a passionate environmentalist as he is, but let's be on whether you're pro net zero or against net zero, climate change is a very political matter and it's a very political matter and it's a very divisive matter, too. so i think he's stepping. and prince william, sadly , are stepping william, sadly, are stepping into political territories by promoting the climate change agenda to which has got a lot of faults with it. as you well know . and so i think he really needs to go as an environmentalist and not just pin to go as an environmentalist and notjust pin his to go as an environmentalist and not just pin his stripes to one issue. >> well, that's fascinating . so >> well, that's fascinating. so what do you think, folks? charles is turning 75 this week, has the halo or the crown supped has the halo or the crown slipped ? let me know your slipped? let me know your thoughts. mark gbnews.com. but coming up , thoughts. mark gbnews.com. but coming up, looking fonnard to this. has prince harry charles's son bitten off more than he can chew by suing the daily mail? and is donald trump considering running for president alongside us, tv news icon tucker carlson.
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i'll be asking the queen of american royal showbiz and political reporting, kinsey schofield. that's
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radio. it is armistice day and we will reflect on our war dead at 1030 with the papers. >> plus , did the police get the >> plus, did the police get the balance right today in managing order for this important occasion? but it's time now for us news with the queen of american showbiz royal and political reporting. kinsey schofield. kinsey, we could do with a smile. we could do with some sunshine. live from hollywood, california , what have hollywood, california, what have you got to tell us? i think harry, by the way, he seems to have quite an army of lawyers. what's what's going on at the moment? mean , this has got to moment? i mean, this has got to be extremely expensive, mark, prince harry, elton john, elizabeth hurley, sadie foster and others are accusing the associated newspapers of unlawfully collecting information by bugging their homes and cars , recording phone
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homes and cars, recording phone calls and illegally obtaining medical information about them. >> they say that the publisher used private detectives to spy on them and a judge ruling in their favour that this case should go fonnard. he said the case should go ahead because the claims have a real prospect of succeeding . now, you'll remember succeeding. now, you'll remember in june , harry became the first in june, harry became the first senior member of the royal family to testify in court in more than a century when he testified against the daily more than a century when he testifieso gainst the daily more than a century when he testifieso we're the daily more than a century when he testifieso we're likely aily more than a century when he testifieso we're likely going to mirror. so we're likely going to see something similar in this instance. also suing the instance. he's also suing the sun with hugh grant that case scheduled to go to trial early next year. i can't imagine in the kind of litigation bills he's having to pay in montecito . he's having to pay in montecito. and i honestly think that it's negative on the brand to be going full force like this , going full force like this, constantly fighting the past . constantly fighting the past. when are you going to look fonnard to the future? >> for most definitely. and of course, the royal family have benefited from the largesse of
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the press , who especially the uk press, who especially when harry and meghan got married, slavish and married, gave them slavish and favourable coverage . can we talk favourable coverage. can we talk about his relationship with meghan at the moment? how are the two doing? because i heard there was a rumour that harry is somehow holding meghan back . somehow holding meghan back. >> yeah, this is a great point made by one of princess diana's close friends towards the end of her life . mark his name is her life. mark his name is richard kay, and he told palace confidential that the only thing standing in meghan's way of her big hollywood comeback is prince harry. he says it's harder for meghan to launch her new career objectives . amid all of the objectives. amid all of the royal rift headlines . and again, royal rift headlines. and again, with all of this litigation, it's hard for meghan to, you know, come out full force trying to promote the tig, trying to promote whatever project she has on the horizon. and when everybody wants to focus on the relationship with harry's family i >> brilliant stuff. well, listen
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, harry might have a legal bill if he loses robert de niro, one of the most famous actors in the world, does have a big legal bill. what's going on? >> oh, my gosh . mark, can you >> oh, my gosh. mark, can you believe this story? a jury ordered robert de niro's company to pay $1.2 million to his ex—assistant . this was an eight ex—assistant. this was an eight day trial, a fireworks every single day where de niro accused his assistant of embezzling from him. he sought $6 million in damages, but the jury tossed his claim . the assistant had claim. the assistant had countersued for $12 million, claiming emotional abuse and bullying. weird back rub requests and all. and she was actually awarded $1.2 million. but this is one of those cases where you're like, i wish there were cameras in the courtroom. >> most definitely . we know that >> most definitely. we know that de niro is a truly legendary actor. taxi driver, goodfellas , actor. taxi driver, goodfellas, was it? meet the meet the fockers as well. quite good at comedy. he is one of the biggest
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stars . put my teeth back in and stars. put my teeth back in and say that carefully. family show. he really is a huge deal, isn't he? in the world of film, he is. >> and i you know, i think that you expect somebody that's so respected and talented to be difficult, but to not this extent. this i do think that this is going to be a little bit of a blow to the ego. and i think that people are perhaps looking at him differently today. isn't he famously a bit curmudgeonly? >> i've seen a couple of car crash interviews when he's been promoting his movies. >> yeah . and you could get away >> yeah. and you could get away with that back in the day. but, you know, we're past the metoo era back rubs are a no go, you know, like you just have to be very careful today with everybody worried about getting cancelled . yeah. cancelled. yeah. >> right. listen, let's >> too. right. listen, let's talk about the would talk about the man that would like the next president like to be the next president of the he's already the united states. he's already done once. donald trump . done it once. donald trump. what's going on? >> oh, you're going to love this story , mark. former president story, mark. former president donald trump told the clay
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travis and buck sexton sexton show say that five times fast. that he would be open to tucker carlson as his vice president. he said, i like tucker a lot. i guess i would. i'd i think i'd say i would because he's got great common sense. he says it's not about being a conservative, which both men are. but he said it's about having common sense. and he said they both want to have safer borders laws and they believe in the border wall because border walls work . and i because border walls work. and i think that that would be a powerhouse team. mark. but i don't know if we're going to be able to tucker from able to lure tucker away from that paycheque that twitter slash paycheque he's getting for his new show. well that's right. >> i mean, i'm trying think >> i mean, i'm trying to think of equivalent guess of the uk equivalent and i guess it rishi sunak with it would be rishi sunak with eamonn holmes as his running mate . m ate. >> mate. >> oh, wow. what that's just two stallions. i'd vote for. >> most definitely . stallion is >> most definitely. stallion is the word. and i've seen the evidence with my own eyes. listen let's talk about pop star katy perry, who's also won quite
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a significant legal battle this week . week. >> mark, when are we going to leave the old people alone is what i'd love to say to katy perry. i love her, but katy perry. i love her, but katy perry and orlando bloom, they won three year battle against won a three year battle against a disabled veteran over a $15 million sale of their montecito property. that's right. their neighbours with prince harry and meghan markle . it's an 84 year meghan markle. it's an 84 year old man that they've gone head to head with, and he claims he was under the influence of painkillers at the time of the sale realised what he'd sale and only realised what he'd agreed . two days later, after agreed. two days later, after his haze wore off. now this is not the first time katy has gone to court with older people. in 2015, katy battled with elderly roman catholic nuns over the sale of a los angeles based convent. she purchased the building in 2015 for 14.5 million in cash and a judge ruled against the nuns. so we got to get katy perry's lawyers . got to get katy perry's lawyers. apparently, if we ever have any trouble . trouble. >> well, definitely so. $15 million for this this place in
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montecito. what is what is $15 million buy you, kinsey ? million buy you, kinsey? >> well , you know, 16 bathrooms. >> well, you know, 16 bathrooms. if you're harry and meghan montecito is one of the nicest venues we've got in the state of california for oprah winfrey. ellen degeneres is rob lowe. some of the biggest stars live there because it is bring bring there because it is bring bring the house values down. >> yeah, crumbs . well, these >> yeah, crumbs. well, these people have got money coming out of their ears, haven't they? i mean, katy perry, i guess she's what is she, the new madonna or something ? something? >> well , something? >> well, madonna would tell you no, but katy perry is one of those pop stars that has her fingers in everything. she's got shoes, she's got perfume. she's you know, not just a pop star. she's on qvc selling blenders and shoes, you know, so she she's also on american idol as a judge . she she's also on american idol as a judge. she has she's also on american idol as a judge . she has expanded her judge. she has expanded her empire in a way that i mean, i think most people envy . think most people envy. >> last question. and it's about
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charles. at 75. it's his birthday this week. what's your appraisal ? birthday this week. what's your appraisal? all of our new monarch , mark, i'm really admire monarch, mark, i'm really admire the first his first year as your monarch. >> i there's there was chaos we had liz and the lettuce and we've gone through multiple prime ministers but there is still . the stability that the still. the stability that the you know, the monarch brings. and i think people admire your your your country. and i think that they admire the royal family and that i do credit to. king charles. >> he's not as glamorous as the queen. but as i said in my take, at ten, he is box office. there's no one in the world too powerful to meet this guy or give him an audience. powerful to meet this guy or give him an audience . years give him an audience. years >> agreed. i don't know if he would look as good in a tiara, but i love to see. >> listen, you look good in anything and we'll see you in a week's time. the brilliant
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kinsey schofield. thank you so much, quincy, wearing your beautiful as which beautiful poppy as well, which goes well with your pink goes very well with your pink dress. my thanks to the queen of goes very well with your pink dre showbizianks to the queen of goes very well with your pink dre showbiz royalto the queen of goes very well with your pink dre showbiz royal and|e queen of goes very well with your pink dre showbiz royal and political of us. showbiz royal and political reporting. old friend of reporting. a very old friend of mine, kinsey schofield. okay, folks. to come. folks. well, lots more to come. tomorrow's papers are in the team. very, very busy . lottie team. very, very busy. lottie and jess printing away . let me and jess printing away. let me tell you, getting through a couple of rain forests worth of trees in order to get you tomorrow's front pages. the headlines, they are next. don't
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news radio. >> i'll get to your email shortly, but it's 1030, so time for tomorrow's front pages . many for tomorrow's front pages. many thanks to josh and maria doing a great job as well today. by the way, whilst we're doing team shout outs, the sunday express, dignity and dishonour as the nafion
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dignity and dishonour as the nation remembers our war dead extremists from the left and right , march extremists from the left and right, march for hate , the right, march for hate, the observer calls grow for israel to hold fire in gaza as marchers throng london and also israeli defence force troops in key battle with hamas gunmen near city hospital and hundreds of thousands rally as police arrest far right protesters . what an far right protesters. what an interesting headline that is to which we will return shortly. some maranao royals at at 100 year tribute and right wing mob in cop clash sack her now pm must axe braverman after ugly scenes on armistice day . sunday scenes on armistice day. sunday telegraph sunak far right thugs and hamas sympathisers disrespect our heroes enough is enough, says allison pearson said so many who just want to pay said so many who just want to pay respects and brexit boost allows fast track drug trials . allows fast track drug trials. that's good. maybe they can test the vaccines now. that'd be nice. oh let me tell you the
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vaccines . vaccines. >> they won't. they'll tell you those vaccinations are safe and effective and have saved many lives. >> okay . the daily star sunday >> okay. the daily star sunday latex lunatic exclusive. our terror women fear original perv still on loose . two sisters in still on loose. two sisters in law targeted by the so—called somerset gimp have told of their terror and say they believe the man found guilty may just be a copycat. and the original latex lunatic is still on the loose and stalking them. i think we might not have kind of read the room there we chuckled with room there with we chuckled with that headline. >> wish i take it back. >> sounds pretty dodgy to me. anyway, somebody that somebody that a bit latex is the that loves a bit of latex is the leadership , speaker and leadership coach, speaker and social commentator adrian hayes. let me tell you, is wearing latex now. but you just can't see it. we also have broadcaster and television personality ingnd and television personality ingrid tarrant, author and journalist, best selling author laura dodsworth . folks, lots to laura dodsworth. folks, lots to get through. we will try and have a bit of fun where we can
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because it is saturday night, but it is of course, the weekend dedicated to remembering our war heroes . sunday telegraph. laura heroes. sunday telegraph. laura far right thugs and hamas sympathisers disrespect our heroes, but right wing mob in cop clash say the sunday mirror. do you think that this is a sort of balanced reporting of what happened? >> no, i don't think this is a balanced reporting, but it's exactly what i was talking about at the top of the show. this story decided earlier in the story was decided earlier in the day. the splashes were decided earlier because we were told there would be far right mobs before they even came far. right. you know what a gb news headune right. you know what a gb news headline so called them far headline also so called them far right yobs before a single yobbish occurred in yobbish incident had occurred in your very own station. mark dolan . i'll tell you what we're dolan. i'll tell you what we're trying to say to yourself. we're turning into msm . turning into msm. >> you are better. >> you are better. >> better stop. >> you are better. >> no, better stop. >> you are better. >> no, bettwthing j. >> you are better. >> no,bettwthingj. the >> you are better. >> no, bettwthingj. the thing >> no, the thing is. the thing is i. i was with alison is. okay, i. i was with alison pierson today in london, but a little earlier in the day, she was at the winston churchill
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statue with other people who convened the october declaration to show respect for remembrance day and also to show solidarity with british jews who are feeling so under threat every saturday. now she's written a completely different article in the telegraph to this splash . the telegraph to this splash. i'd urge everyone to look a little further down the page and read alison's article. i mean, i think the thing is, to be honest, i'm bit disappointed honest, i'm a bit disappointed with sunday telegraph with the sunday telegraph because i this is quite because i think this is quite easy, i say slightly lazy easy, dare i say slightly lazy journalism. oh, here journalism. it's like, oh, here we here's story. there's journalism. it's like, oh, here we to ere's story. there's journalism. it's like, oh, here we to ere's farry. there's journalism. it's like, oh, here we to ere's far right ere's going to be some far right thugs. after papers thugs. whereas after the papers went when went to press, that's when michael mobbed at michael gove was mobbed at victoria . that's when fireworks victoria. that's when fireworks went off. that's when houses have been daubed with red paint somewhere in west hampstead, a jewish people have jewish house. and people have needed be escorted out of needed to be escorted out of synagogues so synagogues by the police. so this story was set up, and i don't think it's balanced reporting. know , also with reporting. you know, also with the suella braverman headline sack her now what? sack her now for predicting this was going to
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happen. she didn't create it. her article in the times and newspaper of record isn't responsible for football hoougans responsible for football hooligans descending on london. what do you think they all follow her every word in the times and try to bring her predictions to light. no, she just called it right. she called the two tier policing, right? >> yeah. i mean, i don't know what reader looks like, what a times reader looks like, but too see many them but i did too see many of them this morning attempting to get onto or indeed onto the cenotaph or indeed whitehall. observer adrian whitehall. the observer adrian calls grow for israel to hold fire in gaza as marchers throng london. you are ex—military is a ceasefire possible? would it work ? well it would if you've work? well it would if you've got the parameters in place just calling for a ceasefire without any ground rules is not going to get anywhere. >> so the hostages is one thing. that's two 200 hostages among them. >> a holocaust survivor and children , right? children, right? >> yeah, correct. so yes, i would actually. or de—escalation , certainly. but but a ceasefire
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would be an ideal thing. but say without the parameters in place, it's just not going to happen. and let me just say one point about conflict from a about this whole conflict from a middle as well. middle east veteran as well. look, hamas is no friend to the palestinians. and you know, their their mission is to destroy israel. i'll also say netanyahu is no friend to the israelis either. and both in a very strange way, empower each other because they're both diverting . what we all want is a diverting. what we all want is a palestinian state in a stable framework . the saudis are going framework. the saudis are going to be the kingpins on this one, andits to be the kingpins on this one, and it's the gulf states who are coming to the screen with with israel recognising them. of israel recognising them. but of course, players want this, course, other players want this, want this removed. so anyway, i hope that we will this some good may come out of this absolute carnage . carnage. >> you know the middle east well. how much support for hamas do you think is there among palestinians ? palestinians? >> see, this is where the nuance that goes back to the marchers here today, because i think the sort of liberal progressive
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press underplayed the level of support for hamas. >> i think they characterise palestinians as they're all desperate for a two state solution. and just want hamas to go away. i'm not sure that's true. >> no, it it's very complicated. >> no, it it's very complicated. >> look, there is support for hamas, undoubtedly. it's not just a minority view . there is just a minority view. there is support there. they haven't got any choice in gaza for what we said before. it's a it's a basically a very sad place. >> they held elections. >> they held elections. >> they held there many years ago. but, you know, and then they scrapped elections, which is exactly what hitler did. yeah. to empower yeah. look, we need to empower the palestinian authority. mohammad abbas. and this is where undermined where netanyahu has undermined abbas's authority. is abbas's authority. and this is where this is the only way this is going to progress into any sort of hopeful peace in the future. >> you think is going to >> what do you think is going to happen, in middle happen, ingrid, in the middle east? can all agree east? because we can all agree this to end at some point. this needs to end at some point. how it playing out? how do you see it playing out? i'm hoping that the way it plays out is that everybody will get together around a table and they will have peace talks. >> you need a third party
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involved here because this will just go on forever. >> and often it's often it's the secretary of state from the united states wouldn't or united states, wouldn't it? or possibly president because possibly the president, because they absolutely 100. they are absolutely 100. >> biden's even said we're on your team, mate. i mean, please , your team, mate. i mean, please, it's pathetic. but there was the arab islamic summit today and they are getting together begging for a ceasefire for and peace. so hopefully , because peace. so hopefully, because this these wars don't happen, it's not it's not the soldiers. it's not the people out there with the guns killing the other people. they're on instruction from the people sitting around a table this what table and decide this is what they're people they're going to do. so people have to sit around a table have got to sit around a table and find a solution. we need another oslo accord that really works. and then sign shake hands on and hopefully even if it's on it and hopefully even if it's an uneasy truce, if we can just bnng an uneasy truce, if we can just bring peace. and i think the only way to do that is to bring outside people that have a the nonnegians again, the nonnegians
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, yeah, there's always a nonnegian spring. i'm nonnegian . nonnegian spring. i'm nonnegian. >> how do you see things playing out the middle east? and do out in the middle east? and do you israel will yield you think that israel will yield to a ceasefire? i think to a ceasefire? well i think that everybody wants peace. to a ceasefire? well i think tha ieverybody wants peace. to a ceasefire? well i think tha ieverylyou'd 'ants peace. to a ceasefire? well i think tha ieverylyou'd have peace. to a ceasefire? well i think tha ieverylyou'd have to ice. to a ceasefire? well i think tha ieverylyou'd have to be >> i think you'd have to be a mad psychopath. not to want to. but call for a ceasefire, but if you call for a ceasefire, you have to have a credible solution to go along with a ceasefire. and that's what's missing because, course, when missing because, of course, when hamas perpetrated the atrocities on october, they were not on 7th of october, they were not bidding for peace, were they? they were bidding for retaliation. and they put israel in the impossible situation of having to try root them out. having to try to root them out. the that israel has the thing is that israel has defensive objectives which are to secure the return of the hostages and to reduce his hamas capabilities so that they can't do this again because they've said they will keep doing it. so i think it's just a horrible situation. it's hard to see how peace will happen. of course, everybody calling for everybody that's calling for a ceasefire should be ceasefire should really be calling for return the calling for the return of the hostages and for hamas to lay down its arms, because that's that's humanitarian an and that's the humanitarian an and the recourse to peace.
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the only recourse to peace. >> and it was mrs. thatcher who said you can never negotiate with terrorists . adrian, was she right? >> you . yeah. yes but but >> you. yeah. yes but but terrorists before have laid down their arms. it takes many, many years sometimes to happen during the ira . yeah, well, yes. i mean the ira. yeah, well, yes. i mean , we did get peace in northern ireland eventually, but as i said before, there has to be clear, clear parameters. one thing i would add this, and it's one that biden's best things he's said recently is if be careful, what of just revenge ? careful, what of just revenge? because look what we did after 9/11. if revenge is the objective, it isn't going to help you. you're just going to be the recruitment sergeant for hamas. so there's got to be clear objectives for what the idf . idf are doing. >> can i ask you, laura, >> now, can i ask you, laura, why have the progressive left, the so—called woke left , who are the so—called woke left, who are not necessarily the same as old school socialists have been so supportive of the palestinian cause since october the 7th? >> why does this appear to be a leftist issue ? leftist issue? >> i think it's quite
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multifactorial . first of all is multifactorial. first of all is it's the infiltration and universities of woke ideology . universities of woke ideology. so the principle of decolonisation people now pit the oppressor against the oppressed. there's also a lot of misinformation about israel. so for instance, people say that it's of white european it's made up of white european jews when actually they're the minority . in israel. minority. in israel. >> it's majority ethnic, isn't it? >> they say things like concentration which makes concentration camp, which makes a kind a false equivalence a kind of a false equivalence between open prison and nazis. yeah. and in fact, the blockades went up around gaza in order to stop bombers. again, it stop suicide bombers. again, it was action on the was a defensive action on the part israel. i think a part of israel. i think that a lot of this information actually has roots going back quite a long into nazi propaganda. long way into nazi propaganda. i'd great book for i'd recommend a great book for anybody who wants a primer anybody who wants a quick primer on the history of this. and that's jake wallace, simon's book, phobia , which came book, israeli phobia, which came out almost serendipitously out just almost serendipitously a month, a month before. yeah. so i think that it's . it's a so i think that it's. it's a kind of an identity politics style of teaching in universal cities combined with a lack of confidence in ourselves in the
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west and a lot of misinformation about israel combined with the oldest hatred in the world which is anti—semitism. >> okay. what do you think about the way that israel is characterised in universities and perhaps in the press as well these ingrid, think these days? ingrid, do you think it's unfair for this it's fair or unfair for this sort of picture of it being this sort of picture of it being this sort of picture of it being this sort of imperial power and this symbol white supremacy , which symbol of white supremacy, which is how israel is is often how israel is characterised ? characterised? >> i think you've got to balance it very carefully with how palace stein are viewed. so if you look at palestine, and that's the way that i look at it, they have been they have been the oppressed, not the oppressor. that's how i view it. and a lot of people would view it same way. and i, i know it the same way. and i, i know that a lot of people won't. and this is where the argument lies . this is where the argument lies. now, i a lot of jewish now, i have a lot of jewish friends. have one friend in friends. i have one friend in particular who asked. said, particular who i asked. i said, what you think? because this what do you think? because this is my view. he said, not in my name. there were jewish people is my view. he said, not in my nanthere ere were jewish people is my view. he said, not in my nanthere marchingewish people is my view. he said, not in my nanthere marching today people is my view. he said, not in my nanthere marching today .eople is my view. he said, not in my nanthere marching today . some out there marching today. some may frightened . and to be
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may be frightened. and to be recognised as jewish. i think the majority won't. but we're picking up on the few that say that they're they're frightened and that's not fair. everything is slanted. i think we've got to have a very much better balanced view. but i'm sorry, we talk about , you know, the synagogues about, you know, the synagogues and daubing of the houses. it's dreadful . all that that is going dreadful. all that that is going over the mark no matter what. but what about the time when the mosques were attacked that was so is that okay? because neither are okay as far as i'm concerned. we've got to be fair. we've got to be balanced. we've got to look at our into our hearts and our conscience and the morals about this. >> what do you think? i mean, can israel make the defence of self defence the middle east self defence in the middle east or are they oppressors? is gaza an open prison and are they responsible for ethnic cleansing and which is what's and apartheid, which is what's laid at their door ? laid at their door? >> look, as ingrid said , there's >> look, as ingrid said, there's a bit of both and i take a very
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balanced view on both side of things. and this is the problem, because you you you criticise israel, you're anti—semitic , israel, you're anti—semitic, you're pro hamas and the other and the opposite. it's got to take this this balanced view. i've viewpoint in i've had this this viewpoint in the break 10% rule that the break this 10% rule that every view, every standpoint, every view, every standpoint, every opinion, every stance is at least 10. right. which actually makes us listen and find where get common find where we can get common areas agreement . so look, areas of agreement. so look, there's bit of i'd say , there's a bit of both. i'd say, in okay. in summary. okay. >> one thing on the by the way, one thing, point order, can one thing, point of order, can you balanced? you stop being so balanced? because mark dolan because this is mark dolan tonight. and we like like tonight. and we like we like a wild debate. i like fireworks, but i do accept your point. and if only more people thought like you, about the headline you, what about the headline look, you get that number of people, you're going to have some fracases and some skirmishes. >> necessarily think it >> i don't necessarily think it is as bad as the media are making out. sorry, because we're just focusing on and i hope just focusing on this and i hope tomorrow's headlines or monday's just focusing on this and i hope tomnactually eadlines or monday's just focusing on this and i hope tomnactually remember' monday's just focusing on this and i hope tomnactually remember armistice; will actually remember armistice as what it should. >> well, that's what we've got to do and we'll be doing that
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from don't from 10:00 tomorrow night. don't forget, hour forget, it's the dinosaur hour with and then i'll with john cleese. and then i'll be at ten. we're going back be in at ten. we're going back to 9 to 11 in the new year of course. now, up, we've course. now, coming up, we've got front page, hot got the times front page, hot off press with more reaction off the press with more reaction from pundits. plus from my brilliant pundits. plus they'll nominating their they'll be nominating their headune they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeros of the day. and in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll, we've been asking as he turns 75, how's king charles lived up to queen elizabeth's legacy? well, the results are in. i shall reveal all .
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n ext next okay. well, listen , the emails okay. well, listen, the emails are coming in thick and fast. and john says, mark, i do
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condemn far right with the police today. but what about the palestinian protesters with flares and fireworks and anti—semitic placard cards? they could have been caught on telly beating up a jew and it still would not have got reported . would not have got reported. well, speaking of books, we were talking earlier about jake wallis book. he is the wallis simons book. he is the editor of the jewish chronicle. his book is called israel phobia. well, what about david baddiel , the brilliant comedian baddiel, the brilliant comedian whose is called jews don't whose book is called jews don't count and my god, isn't that true? based upon what we've seen in recent weeks , noel says , hi, in recent weeks, noel says, hi, mark. because of all of the protesting by those traitors and uk haters today, we felt we had to do our bit and watch the festival of remembrance very moving. and we're back with you now. well listen, let me tell you, noel, it's great to have you, noel, it's great to have you back . just a couple of you back. just a couple of others, because i do want to catch up with your thoughts on this. jess says, hi, mark. we were in london today and there were in london today and there were hundreds of thousands in the protests. never felt the protests. we never felt unsafe were kids
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unsafe and there were many kids and . we're quite and families. we're both quite right wing in our opinions, but have to say how well spirited and peaceful protest was and peaceful the protest was given numbers, the given the vast numbers, the media are sadly focusing on a minority of people, and that is not accurate reporting. that's true. lesley says. i'm sorry, mark, but i find ingrid's comments highly offensive . lviv. comments highly offensive. lviv. there you go . and karen is not there you go. and karen is not happy with king charles, she says, i believe charles is a globalist who believes in the evil doctrines of the world. economic forum. he should denounce globalist ideas and support the people of the uk , support the people of the uk, says karen. well, that brings me to our text poll. we've been asking as he turns 75, how's king charles lived up to queen elizabeth's legacy. oh, dear . elizabeth's legacy. oh, dear. 34.7% say yes and 65.3% say no. so a bit of a fail there for king charles. okay. let's get more thoughts on the big stories of the day. adrian hayes , ingrid of the day. adrian hayes, ingrid tarrant and laura dodsworth and
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laura did get an interesting email there from one of my viewers or listeners who identifies as on the right politically and said that the trouble was exaggerated . i think trouble was exaggerated. i think you've got a story for us. >> well, i mean , of course, >> yes. well, i mean, of course, this is exaggerated. look at all these after was these headlines after it was decided there were going to be far yobs, including by far right yobs, including by your have your own channel. have i mentioned tonight? mentioned that already tonight? >> you have you've you've rapped our knuckles a few times. >> this front and >> this this story is front and centre on the bbc news website tonight now last week tonight as well. now last week after fireworks were fired , after fireworks were fired, fired at police, that were the most unbelievable all most unbelievable, all anti—semitic including anti—semitic placards including one showing jew being put into one showing a jew being put into a and lots of arrests a bin. okay. and lots of arrests as well . i looked for on the bbc as well. i looked for on the bbc news website. did i find it? no. so i thought, well, maybe it's a bit further down. i'll try england. no no, it was on the london page. had to go london page. you had to go three, down and it three, four pages down and it was a small story. so they don't report equally. don't think report it equally. i don't think the are policing equally. the police are policing equally. so a friend of gb news and the founder of the together declaration group , alan miller, declaration group, alan miller,
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posted on social media that he was stopped by police . in fact, was stopped by police. in fact, everybody in the pub was searched by police . now they're searched by police. now they're going they're very active , going they're very active, looking for i don't know what class a drugs night cvs. i'm not really sure they're trying to find things in order to arrest people. they're trying to create a volume of arrests. >> and they were they were profiled, being profiled, perhaps as being potential far right. >> wearing cap. >> he was wearing a peaked cap. is that is that far is that it? is that is that far right these days? but how can you say that the police had a plan to do that, that sounds a bit conspiratorial, doesn't it? i'm plan. i'm i'm not saying it's a plan. i'm saying there was a deliberate strategy of aggressive and vigorous in order to vigorous policing in order to tone down what was perceived to be a far right protest on the day. but i be a far right protest on the day. buti do be a far right protest on the day. but i do think that there could well have been a strategy to create a number of arrests. on one side in order to create the exact splashes we've got in the exact splashes we've got in the because i've the papers today, because i've seen action. well, in a seen it in action. well, in a lockdown, i say, i did lockdown, i must say, i did speak to a retired top cop just a days ago show a couple of days ago on the show who the are not who said that the police are not keen apprehending
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keen on apprehending pro—palestine supporters because of the aggro it causes and the pr opportunity it will give people on social media. >> yeah, and that's the problem with the policing. you know, selective policing, which is where suella braverman was, was correct. >> okay. listen folks, let's now have a look at our. oh, we've got first of all, the sunday times and i think have we got that, folks? we'll get that up. there we are. well done, team. and that is your front page. there we are. well done, team. and ihates your front page. there we are. well done, team. and ihate hate r front page. there we are. well done, team. and ihate hate intolerance“. hate hate hate intolerance and arrests as thugs hijack armistice day city where 1 in 5 are on an nhs waiting list and starmer's election guru did not declare £730,000 worth of donations as well on a on a on a less busy news day. that would be quite the story . but let's be quite the story. but let's now get my pundits nominations for headline hero and back page zero. who's your hero today? laura i'm being a bit laura well, i'm being a bit cheeky i'm nominating a cheeky because i'm nominating a personal but she is hero. >> allison pearson yeah, because she's the convenors of she's one of the convenors of the october declaration with me,
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which sign by going which everyone can sign by going to friends of to british friends of israel.org. but she organised a group of people to go to winston churchill statue today in order to respect on remembrance to show respect on remembrance day. and they were not far right yobs. they were standing there very peacefully with a of very peacefully with a lot of dignity . other telegraph readers dignity. other telegraph readers turned up and so shout out for for her being brave. actually and facing london where there were so many reports about all the chaos that was going to ensue. it was very civilised at winston churchill statue today. well brilliant well she's a brilliant journalist heroic in her journalist and heroic in her coverage of this story. >> about ingrid? your >> how about you, ingrid? your your your super hero today. >> it is booths supermarket . i'm >> it is booths supermarket. i'm sorry, it's not a hero, but it's a group. a hero that have got rid of the self checkout. i'm so thrilled . thrilled. >> brilliant. yes. >> brilliant. yes. >> i really am so good for you. and i hope others will follow because i'm a disaster and i know for a fact that if people see me, that they they know me locally as well. so i go there
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and they go, okay. and they just wait there. we'll come and help. this will take a while. somebody who doesn't know me say, who doesn't know me just say, well, it's well, look, it's free. it's free. and yeah, but free. and i said, yeah, but it'll be quicker here. and sure enough, that's enough, it is. so anybody that's behind the self what's the behind me at the self what's the name checkout think they name checkout think that they might be backing a winner. they're always they're not because i always i get things coming the light get things coming up the light always little always goes on on the little stick thrilled. stick so i'm thrilled. >> it because you do you >> is it because you do you exceed the allowance of wine you're buy or you're supposed to buy or something? no. something? no, no, no. >> but now that's a problem because you have your because you have to have your you call them anyway you have to call them anyway when you do booze because you have be over 18. have to be proved to be over 18. >> you go. well, look, the >> there you go. well, look, the thing that really miss is thing that i really miss is the chat the cashier. thing that i really miss is the cha exactly. |e cashier. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> which going to get >> which you're going to get with booths, where you with with booths, where you can say, going? say, how's your day going? >> need converse. >> no need to converse. >> no need to converse. >> you. and discuss >> nice to meet you. and discuss the weather. >> nice to meet you. and discuss the isolated. yes. yeah. >> isolated. yes. yeah. >> isolated. yes. yeah. >> a wonderful >> i think it's a wonderful treat actually have treat when you actually have face stuff. okay, face to face stuff. okay, adrian, you're. >> yeah, i had a future i was going for h m forces. going to go for h m forces. i was going to say gurkhas. was going to say the gurkhas. i was going to say the gurkhas. i was gurkha officer, privileged was a gurkha officer, privileged to that for 8 or 9 years. i to be that for 8 or 9 years. i was. was thinking of fiona the
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was. i was thinking of fiona the sheep. but that was last week's. but i've actually gone for a bit. read frank bit. tree. i read today frank borman, was the commander of borman, who was the commander of apollo took the apollo eight, who took the picture of the earth, earthrise shot while anders was actually the credit for it. and i think we need to with this, we need to look with all this, this times of division and labelling , just remind ourselves labelling, just remind ourselves that we all live on this one planet. and i've said, i don't care whether people jewish. care whether people are jewish. a buddhist, a muslim, a christian, . it doesn't christian, whatever. it doesn't matter. end day, matter. at the end of the day, we're much the same. we're all pretty much the same. >> a nice message. >> oh, that's a nice message. okay, briefly folks, a few seconds back. page zero. >> laura pro—palestine marches on remembrance day. >> easy peasy. how about you, ingnd? >> easy peasy. how about you, ingrid? you got to be suella braverman. >> and i'm sorry. look at it. every hate on all these things is using that word was so inflammatory. it was wrong, wrong, wrong. and honestly, i know she's married to a jewish man, but i wonder if she would have the same opinion on if she if she was married to an arabian man. she's completely man. i think she's completely biased. think got biased. i think she's got she's got wrong . got it wrong. >> stuff. last >> so fascinating stuff. last but least , adrian back but not least, adrian back page zero. but not least, adrian back page zer(they for our freedom.
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but not least, adrian back page zentour for our freedom. but not least, adrian back page zentour freedom our freedom. but not least, adrian back page zentour freedom has freedom. but not least, adrian back page zentour freedom has neverwm. but not least, adrian back page zentour freedom has never been and our freedom has never been more under threat. not from invading armies , from globalist invading armies, from globalist organisations. the is the organisations. the who. is the worst of all. the pandemic treaty . treaty. >> oh, my brilliant colleague jess was asked to get an image of the who, but she thought it was the who . so we had roger was the who. so we had roger daltrey and pete townshend, and it had producer maria and producer lot t laughing their heads off for about an hour. comedy gold. but well done, jess. we love your
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at ten. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the prime minister has condemned what he's described as violent from right violent scenes from far right groups sympathisers . groups and hamas sympathisers. hours after eventful day of hours after an eventful day of demonstrate in london, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousandsin london, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands oflondon, hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people hundreds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people tookireds hours after an eventful day of dethousands of people took part of thousands of people took part in a pro—palestinian rally in the capital calling for a ceasefire in gaza, which also coincided with armistice day. now the vast majority dispersed peacefully around 6:00, but police officers detained a breakaway group of around 150 people wearing face coverings and letting off fireworks in mayfair . with further clashes mayfair. with further clashes taking place near victoria station. a number of arrests were made. rishi sunak says all criminality must be met with the full and swift force of the law . full and swift force of the law. meanwhile, the assistant commissioner of the met police has described extreme violence from far right demonstrators towards officers protecting the
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cenotaph as extraordinary and deeply concerning. matt twist said a group of counter—protesters were largely intoxicated, aggressive football hoougans intoxicated, aggressive football hooligans who spent most of the day attacking or threatening officers seeking to prevent them from confronting the main march . from confronting the main march. 92 people were arrested . mr 92 people were arrested. mr twist also said the intense debate about protest and policing has contributed to an increase in tension. the home secretary has been accused of stoking tension and emboldening the far right. she described pro—palestinian rallies as hate marches this week , our home and marches this week, our home and security editor mark white sent this report from westminster . this report from westminster. >> well, police have now moved in. they're trying to clear this main road going over westminster bridge. we've had protesters from both sides, pro—palestinian palestinian protesters and also these counter—protesters here. they have been clashing sporadically . as two groups have sporadically. as two groups have come together. but it's been pretty well contained by the metropolitan police and these
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