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whitehall today provided the in whitehall today provided the nafion in whitehall today provided the nation with a physical reminder of all those who have served and sacrificed with british and commonwealth soldiers, sailors and airmen and women represented there, together with members of there, together with members of the emergency services and civilians , is of course ensuring civilians, is of course ensuring that no one is forgotten lest we forget, then senior conservatives are calling on the prime minister to sack suella braverman after her article in the times. this week accused the police of bias and seemed to operate independently of number 10 moderate conservative voices are warning that the home secretary , his inflammatory secretary, his inflammatory language , could cost them the language, could cost them the next election . and as rumours next election. and as rumours swirl of a cabinet reshuffle sometime next week , is suella sometime next week, is suella head on the chopping block . then head on the chopping block. then the supreme court is going to give its decision on whether the rwanda plan is lawful. if it isn't lawful, what will the government's next steps be? and if it is deemed lawful? well,
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haven't we just wasted a year where we could have been processing these migration claims? we'll discuss all of that and do get in touch. your voice is more important than ours. send us your thoughts on gbv at gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials . we're at message on our socials. we're at gb news. but first, here's the news with the lovely tatiana . news with the lovely tatiana. darren thank you and good afternoon. >> this is the latest from the newsroom. the king has led the nafion newsroom. the king has led the nation observing a two minute silence on remembrance day, honoufing silence on remembrance day, honouring fallen soldiers . the honouring fallen soldiers. the prince of wales was among the senior royals to stand behind king charles, with the monarch wearing the uniform of the marshal of the royal air force. he then laid a wreath similar to the one produced for king george, the sixth. the prime minister labour leader and former pms were also at the
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cenotaph in central london, joined by other senior politicians and dignitaries . the politicians and dignitaries. the met police says its actively investigating possible cases of hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder , where armistice day disorder, where hundreds of thousands of propane palestinian protesters marched through central london, which led to pockets of violence. nine officers were injured and 126 people arrested , including 92 people arrested, including 92 right wing counter—protesters . right wing counter—protesters. the force also released images of individuals they're seeking , of individuals they're seeking, pictured carrying anti—semitic placards . the home secretary placards. the home secretary who's attended today's service at the cenotaph is being blamed for stoking tensions during the pro—palestinian protests . during pro—palestinian protests. during the week, suella braverman described the demonstrators as hate marchers , as she accused hate marchers, as she accused the police of bias for allowing yesterday's rally to go ahead on remembrance weekend . scottish remembrance weekend. scottish first minister humza yousaf is among the growing chorus of voices calling for her to go .
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voices calling for her to go. >> i'm afraid that the home secretary's position , in my secretary's position, in my view, is untenable, she should, in fact, not even be allowed to resign. she should just be sacked by the prime minister because no home secretary should because no home secretary should be fanning the flames of division in quite the opposite . division in quite the opposite. defence secretary grant shapps has defended his cabinet colleague job as home secretary is to make sure that quite properly that the powers exist and the powers are then used within the operational independence of the police to make sure that marches and protests are properly policed and where the laws have been broken as they clearly have been in some cases , that those in some cases, that those prosecutions take place , that prosecutions take place, that thatis prosecutions take place, that that is what a home secretary is there for. >> now, i wouldn't have quite put it in her language. it's not the language i would have used. but the point still stands. >> a man has been charged with the murder of a mother who was killed in front of her children
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in manchester. perseverance ncube found with a simple ncube was found with a simple single stab wound to the chest in the early hours of friday morning. she later died in hospital . 45 year old obert moyo hospital. 45 year old obert moyo has also been charged with possession of an offensive weapon. he is due in court tomorrow where the warnings have been issued for northern england and parts of wales as well as storm debbie approaches the fourth storm of the season . fourth storm of the season. heavy rain and gale force winds are expected with gusts of up to 80mph. the met office has warned of a possible danger to life as the weather system sweeps across northern ireland. last month, storm ciaran left widespread flooding and dozens of schools were forced to close due to the extent of the damage caused . and extent of the damage caused. and a lion was seen roaming the streets of an italian seaside town after escaping from a circus . the feline sparked panic circus. the feline sparked panic among the locals when it calmly strutted through residential
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roads late last night after a seven hour effort. it was eventually caught and sedated . eventually caught and sedated. and this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . darren now back to. darren >> thanks very much, tatiana. let's get stuck into today's topic, shall we? the national service of remembrance held at the cenotaph in whitehall today, provided, of course, the nation with a reminder of all of those who have served and made the ultimate sacrifice with british and commonwealth soldiers , and commonwealth soldiers, sailors, airmen and women represent it, ensuring no one is forgotten. joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia. olivia you're there in westminster. you've seen the scenes. i assume, all well and correct and remember and respect
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and that tradition of remembrance sunday >> well, absolutely . it was >> well, absolutely. it was a beautiful service. i went to the cenotaph and watched the streets were lined with people . the two were lined with people. the two minute silence was observed in dignity. the politicians there, we saw all of the former prime ministers, the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, were all very much putting on a show of unity, as one would expect. but tomorrow politics starts again properly, and westminster is now abuzz with rumours of a reshuffle last week. of course , reshuffle last week. of course, rishi sunak was under huge pressure to sack suella braverman after a piece that she wrote in the times in which she blatantly criticised the metropolitan police. turns out it was not signed off by number 10. did was that or was that not breaking the ministerial code? there are arguments on both sides . the ministerial code sides. the ministerial code states that any policy issues written in a newspaper by a minister must be signed off by the prime minister or the prime
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minister's office. this wasn't exactly a policy issue , but exactly a policy issue, but there are plenty of people saying that it was completely inappropriate of suella braverman to openly criticise the met police in that fashion . the met police in that fashion. now rishi sunak has a really difficult decision on his hands over whether or not to sack her. on the one hand, there are about 50 or 60 conservative mps who are staunchly behind suella braverman and think that she is the only one who's willing to speak the truth. they think that she appeals to the average voter on the issue of migration. then on the issue of migration. then on other there are on the other hand, there are about 50 or 60 conservative mps on the moderate or left on the sort of moderate or left wing the party who think that wing of the party who think that she's dangerous. word she's dangerous. that's the word that completely that they've used and completely unsuited the of home unsuited to the role of home secretary rishi sunak had the weekend to mull it over here. really interesting to what really interesting to see what happens really interesting to see what happttidbit. really interesting to see what happttidbit . the little tidbit. the communications group bid for number 10 has been cleared for tomorrow morning. sometimes is a sign that a reshuffle is about to be undennay. >> well, i mean, olivia, was it obvious that there was any tension at the cenotaph today
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between the two of them? of course, the home secretary was actually there . actually there. >> the home secretary was there. there was no visible tension as you'd hope they managed to, to hold it together over the over the service. there are those who say that rishi sunak actually would very much to keep would very much like to keep suella braverman . she, of suella braverman. she, of course, is does appeal on the whole to sort of the right of the party and rishi sunaks credentials with that faction of the conservative party are pretty thin after that brutal swing by—election to bruising by—election defeats last month . by—election defeats last month. there is a school of thought that rishi sunak needs to keep his friends close, but his his enemies closer so he could cling to on her. as things are looking, though , i wouldn't be looking, though, i wouldn't be sure that suella braverman would survive the week. interestingly, grant shapps , the defence grant shapps, the defence secretary, said on television this morning that when asked whether suella braverman would be secretary week be home secretary next week enigmatically , he said, well, enigmatically, he said, well, a week is a long time in politics. >> indeed . i mean, the
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>> well, indeed. i mean, the actual, the what we've seen over this weekend, olivia, has there been widespread condemnation of what we saw take place when michael gove was passing through london yesterday and of course, there was a swarm of people gathered around him, the metropolitan police had to actually get involved . i mean, actually get involved. i mean, it has there been is there political consensus that this is becoming quite troubling for politicians ? evans there is some politicians? evans there is some sort of political consensus. >> i mean, we have heard from senior politicians about about the attack really on on michael gove, rishi sunak released a statement yesterday which wasn't wasn't that clear in its condemnation of the of the anti—semitism at the pro hamas. well the pro hamas supporters at the pro—palestinian march yesterday he said that there were there were troubling scenes. but the metropolitan police sort of managed to keep it under control. interestingly bofis it under control. interestingly boris johnson tweeted something much more forthright, essentially saying enough is
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enough. it it'll be really fascinating to see whether sort of rishi sunak line will hold over the course of this week because we are expecting another pro—palestinian march next saturday. he's now under quite a lot of pressure from both conservative mps and conservative mps and conservative voters to come down a little bit harder on these marches. and in some quarters i've heard is being accused of sort of fudging the issue and not being as strong as he could be. that problem could get worse for him if he does choose to get rid of his home secretary tomorrow. >> well, olivia utley, we can rely on you over this next week to drive us through actually all the madness and the updates that are take place are no doubt going to take place . but olivia utley, thank you very for your time right. very much for your time right. let's take now to my let's take it now to my wonderful panel and i'm joined by former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire on my left here and the spokeswoman for republican overseas uk, sarah elliott, on my right. scarlett, if i start with you, were you quite pleased with how
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everything went today? was it a, you know, a very good summer? >> and i mean, i think every yearisitis >> and i mean, i think every year is it is absolutely fitting . and obviously for somebody like me whose father fought in the second world war, i mean, he was very young. and it did it it absolutely changed his life without wrecking it. i mean, i mean, awful , awful things happen mean, awful, awful things happen to soldiers and sailors and airmen during the second world war. i mean, i think it's absolutely fitting that we remember. but also , one of the remember. but also, one of the things about the cenotaph is, is never again . i mean, after the never again. i mean, after the first world war, we said never again. that was over , you know, again. that was over, you know, over 100 years ago. and look how awful it's been since then. so l, awful it's been since then. so i, i mean, i do think that we have to have those remembrances, but we also so possibly should be doing rather more to find a way of getting to peace. okay sarah, i mean, i was really
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quite concerned about this weekend . weekend. >> i'm not you know, i won't hold back on saying that because of what we've seen every weekend since the october 7th. hamas terrorist attack in israel. now now it hasn't. today has gone incredibly well, which is very heartwarming to see. how have you felt about everything that's been going on around this remembrance sunday? well i find it incredibly disrespectful what happened yesterday , because this happened yesterday, because this is the one time of year where actually it's non partisan. >> we remember the men and women who've given their lives in all conflicts in defence of freedom, and yet , you know, the and yet, you know, the pro—palestinian march couldn't recognise that , they couldn't recognise that, they couldn't respect that, they couldn't give us that. one week in britain. and why couldn't they do that? because they think we're colonise others because they don't share british values as i mean, they were marchers that had headband on. they were had hamas headband on. they were they anti—semitic hate that was there. and the racism even shown
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towards our prime minister and home secretary was just just just completely disregard us who we are as a nation and western civilisation and was completely disrespectful to the men and women who who died to protect those values and then the attention moves away from their sacrifice to the pro—palestinian issues that they want to talk about, which, quite frankly, she, you know, is anti—israel and anti—jewish. >> i mean, scarlet, would you have said yesterday should have gone ahead the protest? yeah. well i mean, the really important people are are the british legion and the men of i think it's called the western front organisation , both of whom front organisation, both of whom were very categorical that that march should have gone ahead. >> and what what action i mean the march was way over there. it had happened every saturday there are marches all the time in london. you know , i mean it's in london. you know, i mean it's that it was amazing that a fuss was made about this one. and actually what happened what happened was who disrupted the
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cenotaph ? it wasn't the cenotaph? it wasn't the palestinian . it wasn't the palestinian. it wasn't the pro—palestinian people. right it was it was tommy robinson's hate filled mob of right wingers who who went for the police. i mean , who went for the police. i mean, we're talking about what is it, 92 arrests. we're talking about violence against the police at the cenotaph . that's what the cenotaph. that's what happened. i do not can i say quickly, i do not believe that the 300,000 people or more who were on the on the other march were on the on the other march were anti—semitic . i think there were anti—semitic. i think there were anti—semitic. i think there were anti—semitic. i think there were a lot of jews on that march for a start. i mean, it's a it that was a march for peace and i think it's really, really important that we remember that the british legion, who after all, they're the poppy sellers, they're the people organise they're the people who organise everything. they wanted the march go ahead. they said, march to go ahead. they said, you your march, but don't you have your march, but don't interfere with us. >> all right? i mean, sarah, i saw scenes yesterday where poppy sellers were having to move their stalls, as you know, in
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stations in britain, in london, in victoria station, to be precise. and i think that's a deeply troubling. the front page of the sun the other day was talking about how poppy sellers are worried about are really worried about actually setting up their stalls at minute . that's actually setting up their stalls at minute. that's a sign of at the minute. that's a sign of really troubling times, is it not? yes, it's also a sign of a nafion not? yes, it's also a sign of a nation that doesn't have cohesion. >> we should we should all be able to get behind the poppy sellers and our military because they and i'm really they protect us. and i'm really quite , learned that quite concerned, learned that with marchers , the with these marchers, the pro—palestinian would pro—palestinian marchers would they really actually put on a british uniform and defend our nafion? british uniform and defend our nation? you know , i don't think nation? you know, i don't think they would. and to say that it was peaceful is ignored . wing was peaceful is ignored. wing all attacks on jewish homes all the attacks on jewish homes and outside synagogue that and outside a synagogue that were intimidated, intimidating people who were leaving there and going to worship, there was nothing peaceful about it. yes, there was a right wing mob, which it equally condemned that because they also took attention away from the memorial. they wanted to protect, but to allow
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a foreign nation's flag to be flown on our military's memorials is disgraceful. and it just reflect it's really that we're not in a good place as a country. >> all right. i'll come back to my wonderful panel and we'll discuss suella braverman. i'm sure there are lots of things to say on that one, but that, of course, is republican overseas uk spokesperson sarah elliott and scarlett mccgwire , our and scarlett mccgwire, our former labour adviser. on my left 0 lords. more though on our website . you must check it out. website. you must check it out. gb dot com. of course, the gb news dot com. of course, the fastest growing national news website in the united kingdom. it's got best analysis and it's got the best analysis and opinion well as latest opinion as well as the latest breaking news you're watching. and listening to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes. lots more coming up on today's show. senior tories are calling on rishi sunak to sack suella after this weekend's protests . but this weekend's protests. but woodchuck in the home secretary at this time be a mistake. woodchuck in the home secretary at this time be a mistake . all at this time be a mistake. all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news britain's a news .
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and people that i knew had dewbs & co weeknights from . six & co weeknights from. six >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes on your tv, online and digital radio. now senior conservatives are calling on the prime minister to sack suella braverman after her article in the times this week, which was accusing the police of bias and seem to operate in dependently,
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shall we say, of number 10 now moderate tory mps in rishi sunaks party warned that the home secretary's language could cost them the next election . and cost them the next election. and as rumours swirl of a cabinet reshuffle sometime next week , reshuffle sometime next week, many on the right of the party actually view braverman as one of the party's biggest assets and caution that any move to dismiss or move her would incite a rebellion by the hard line faction of conservative mps. so let's see what my panel make of this. sarah elliott, i'll start with you . i'm of the view that with you. i'm of the view that actually we might as well pack up and go home if the conservative party is going to say, well, suella braverman is too outspoken for the conservative party, because i'll tell you what, the red wall, where i'm from, right parts of county durham, where i'm from , county durham, where i'm from, what she's saying actually rings true to them. they do recognise lies to pelisson in certain protests, having robust action, shall we say , and other protests
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shall we say, and other protests that are more politically correct , maybe not that are more politically correct, maybe not receiving that are more politically correct , maybe not receiving the correct, maybe not receiving the same attention. and actually what suella saying there, the only argument that they would have against her would be, well, your home secretary do something about it. but they agree with the language used exactly . the language used exactly. >> she's speaking to a large swath of the population, many of whom vote tory, by the way, or did in the last election, who see the wokeism of the police department and not actually enforcing the law or being fair and unbiased. and i have to say that i think she's she'll get a lot of support and backing for this, especially for a potential leadership run in the future. but i think as home secretary, she she has every right to spell that out . now, should she have that out. now, should she have gotten sign off from the prime minister? i don't know. that's internal politics, but i don't think what she was saying was false. i think a lot of people agree with her it makes sense. >> before i turn to scarlett mccgwire, would you say, sarah
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elliott, that suella braverman is vindicated in right in that times article with what took place in london yesterday ? place in london yesterday? >> absolutely. i think she was you know, you saw some really horrific anti—semitic language and behaviour. and yet you see one side of the political spectrum more heavily arrested or attention given to when every weekend we have seen just hate on our street every saturday we've seen hate in london an and ijust we've seen hate in london an and i just you know i don't think the police are actually confident in how to deal with this type of racism that we have seen in london. and i don't think they know what to do with political correctness. >> sarah, some would argue i'm assuming scarlett mccgwire you're not one of them. >> well, let me see. there's an argument at the moment as to whether the met police are in institutionally racist and sexist , right? that's what an sexist, right? that's what an independent review commissioned by the met police found mark
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rowley, the head of the commissioner, the head of the metropolitan police , will not metropolitan police, will not use that phrase. but we are not talking about a woke police force. right. we're talking about a police force where there is serious worries about the way they treat women and black people within their ranks . and people within their ranks. and more much more importantly , she more much more importantly, she is how they how they prosecute them, how they use them, how they do so we're not talking about that about suella to let's get this straight . she's home get this straight. she's home secretary. she put in an article number 10 said no, it needs these changes. she ignored the changes and she went, i mean, the thing about rishi sunak is he now can't win, can he? so if he now can't win, can he? so if he sacks her, the right wing will go mad. if he doesn't sack her, it shows that you can do whatever you want as a cabinet minister. there is no longer collective responsibility and it no longer . collective responsibility and it no longer. but collective responsibility and it no longer . but when we look at no longer. but when we look at what happened yesterday, yesterday , say because she made
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yesterday, say because she made such a fuss about what i would call a peace march, that's what these people are calling for, is peace. peace in gaza right . peace. peace in gaza right. which she calls a hate march because she made that fuss. we had tommy robinson calling his right wing thugs to come and defend the cenotaph, which meant they threw missiles at the police . that would not have police. that would not have happened without all the fuss about it . about it. >> but do you really think that tommy robinson and his what we're seeing on the screen there potentially supporters of his, do you honestly believe, scarlett mccgwire that they sat reading suella braverman times article and taking it as a command to go out onto the streets? >> no, no, no. she didn'tjust say things in the times. she was everywhere, right? we all i mean, there was an enormous fuss about what was going to go on, on saturday. had there not been a fuss quietly, what would always have happened on a saturday on on on the 11th would have happened. we would have had the two minute silence. we would
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have people the have had the people around the cenotaph and over mile or so cenotaph and over a mile or so away, we would have had the march, american embassy march, the american embassy there but instead, there. and but but instead, tommy robinson came came down and threw stuff at the police. 92 arrests. that's quite a lot. >> right. well, discuss more of that a bit later on. but on the actual politics of the conservative party itself, i mean, what you're describing there, scarlett, sounds a lot like rishi sunak's lost all authority . and actually, this is authority. and actually, this is we really are in the dying days now. well. >> well, he has hasn't he? i mean, i mean, you know that that he hasn't done anything about somebody who clearly does not care about him at all. right. i mean, it's absolutely obvious. priti patel has made it quite, quite clear that she thinks that she's in pole position for the next leadership because she's not in the cabinet. suella wants to make her. it's all about what happens when they lose the next election. that's what's so
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terrible . yes. rishi sunak no terrible. yes. rishi sunak no longer holds the confidence of his cabinet or his mps. there is a real problem with this government . government. >> sarah elliott i mean , are you >> sarah elliott i mean, are you of that view that actually this is this is it, the conservatives have had it, you know, it might as well take it round the back and well, goodbye . and well, goodbye. >> well, i do think scarlett's on to something that the obviously the cabinet ministers feel like there's not strong leadership at the helm and they can do what they want to do. but isn't that what suella is calling for? right. yeah. you could offer strong leadership . could offer strong leadership. and she may be running and i think she may be running for after the next election a little bit here as scarlett mentioned. but i little bit here as scarlett mentioned. buti also little bit here as scarlett mentioned. but i also think she's showing the electorate, listen, there are people in cabinet who agree with you , who cabinet who agree with you, who hear you, voters who know that there needs to be a strong approach to what is happening. every weekend in london, and that this is not representative of who we are as a nation, especially so years on from
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crystal knock, you know, and the jewish people feel completely unsafe in london, my jewish friends are all thinking about where else do we go ? where else do we go? >> that of course, being when the nazis started attacking jewish shops and homes and all the rest of it. and we did see a home in london yesterday, which was reported to have jewish was reported to have a jewish symbol in its window covered in red paint. it's really red paint. i mean, it's really quite harrowing scenes. >> yes . and that person doesn't >> yes. and that person doesn't live there anymore . actually, i live there anymore. actually, i personally know someone who knows her and yeah, it had a message on the on the door. yeah. so they had just randomly attacked it. >> i mean, sarah, if rishi sunak does say, look, suella, you've sung your last song in the pages of the times, goodbye . we don't of the times, goodbye. we don't want your services anymore and say we get an oliver dowden or a robert jenrick replacing him or currently he being reported as the runners and riders would you personally be happy ? personally be happy? >> well, personally , i don't
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>> well, personally, i don't listen and i think suella is speaking , you know, strong speaking, you know, strong leadership. she's speaking to. i think she should stay. i think suella should stay. i think she makes sense. she is calling for stronger leadership. she's stronger leadership. she's strong calling for a stronger police department, which i think is highly intimidated at the moment . i is highly intimidated at the moment. i don't think they is highly intimidated at the moment . i don't think they know moment. i don't think they know how to handle this type of potential violence , ice in the potential violence, ice in the streets and so, yeah, no, i think she should stay. she speaks to a large section of the conservative electorate who need to come out and vote and who haven't in by elections. >> i mean, scarlett, do you think actually rishi sunak won't want to rock the boat and that it will be someone like oliver dowden who trusts as a voice dowden who he trusts as a voice who respect his authority who will respect his authority a bit more than perhaps suella has? >> well, he's got i mean, if he's going to sack suella, he's got to have somebody who is on his side. i mean, the this cannot go on. we cannot have a
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cabinet full of people who just feel that they can do whatever they want whenever they want. and i mean, if suella can do it, everybody else can do it, too . everybody else can do it, too. so, of course, he's going to have to get somebody like like like oliver dowden, who is no left . i mean, what left winger. i mean, that's what we to remember . and there we have to remember. and there is a whole question of how much rishi actually agrees with rishi sunak actually agrees with suella allows her to be the suella and allows her to be the sort of the person in front who who says deeply offensive things . i mean, one has to say that saying that homelessness is a lifestyle choice is not particularly good. calling those marches, hate marches when actually they're calling for peace . i mean, this is not peace. i mean, this is not somebody who's trying to hold the country together of course, suella, she's not here to defend herself, but she would say, actually, i just don't want the streets of london to resemble the of san francisco, streets of london to resemble theexamplef san francisco, streets of london to resemble theexample , san francisco, streets of london to resemble theexample , which 'ancisco, streets of london to resemble theexample , which hassco, streets of london to resemble theexample , which has rows and for example, which has rows and rows tents outside on its rows of tents outside on its streets . streets. >> but yeah, what i'm saying, what i said is it is not a lifestyle choice. >> and actually the problem is
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that if you look at all the polling people don't like they don't like extreme terms, they want they actually hate that sort of language. right. it is not popular. it might be popular with members of the conservative party it isn't popular with the country. >> i think sarah elliot, just in a word, you would support actually getting ensuring we don't end up with all those tents looking like a campsite, right? >> oh, absolutely not. and what san francisco has done is made it easy to be homeless and made it easy to be homeless and made it convenient as opposed to tackling addiction and the root causes that make people homeless. >> all right. now, folks , thank >> all right. now, folks, thank you very much to my panel there. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes. we've got more grimes. we've got loads more coming on today's show. next coming up on today's show. next week, we'll see the supreme court to rule on the legality of the government s rwanda court to rule on the legality of the governments rwanda plan. but if it struck down, can rishi sunak still stop the boats as he pledges ? of course, one of his pledges? of course, one of his five pledges? but first, here's the news with tamsen tatiana .
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the news with tamsen tatiana. darren, thank you very much and good afternoon . good afternoon. >> this is the latest from the newsroom . the king has led the newsroom. the king has led the nafion newsroom. the king has led the nation observing a two minute silence on remembrance day , silence on remembrance day, honounng silence on remembrance day, honouring fallen soldiers . the honouring fallen soldiers. the prince of wales was among the senior royals to stand behind the king charles with the monarch wearing the uniform of the marshal of the royal air force. he then laid a wreath similar to the one produced for king george. the sixth. the prime minister labour leader and former pms were also at the cenotaph in central london, joined by other senior politicians and dignitaries . the politicians and dignitaries. the met police says it's actively investigating possible cases of hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder . hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder. hundreds of thousands of pro—palestine protesters marched through central london, which led to
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pockets of violence. the force released images of people it's seeking who were pictured carrying anti—semitic placards . carrying anti—semitic placards. the home secretary who attended today's remembrance service is being blamed for stoking tensions during the pro—palestinian protests . during pro—palestinian protests. during the week, suella braverman described the demonstrators as hate marchers . scottish first hate marchers. scottish first minister humza yousaf is among the growing chorus of voices calling for her to go afraid that the home secretary's position, in my view, is untenable. >> she should, in fact, not even be allowed to resign. she should just be sacked by the prime minister because no home secretary should be fanning the flames of division in quite the opposite . whether warnings have opposite. whether warnings have been issued for northern ireland, england and parts of wales. >> a storm debbie approaches the fourth storm of the season . fourth storm of the season. heavy rain and gale force winds with gusts of up to 80mph are expected earlier this month. storm ciaran caused widespread
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flooding . the met office says flooding. the met office says yellow alerts come into force from 3 am. tomorrow morning, ending at 6:00 in the evening . ending at 6:00 in the evening. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website at gbnews.com now back to . darren to. darren >> thanks very much , tatiana. >> thanks very much, tatiana. plenty more to come up on today's show. but first, let's take a little look at the weather with jonathan. hello there. >> i'm jonathan vautrey. who of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office storm debby has been named by met air and the irish weather service and the irish weather service and is expected to be picked up by the jet stream and powered towards and the uk as we towards ireland and the uk as we head into head throughout tonight and into monday. some monday. potential for some disruptive particularly disruptive weather, particularly for the irish for northern ireland, the irish sea, and across sea, coastal areas and across northern england where northern areas of england where severe gales are possible for this evening this band of this evening we see this band of rain pushing its northwards rain pushing its way northwards into here. into scotland. but it's here. storm in the storm debby arriving in the southwest. heavy rain southwest. some very heavy rain pushing into england, wales and then particularly northern
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ireland later on. very persistent some flooding ireland later on. very pe possible. some flooding ireland later on. very pe possible. thissome flooding ireland later on. very pe possible. this wave flooding ireland later on. very pe possible. this wave flcgales is possible. this wave of gales developing in the west as well with all the cloud, the rain and the wind, will milder the wind, it will be a milder night but night compared to last. but a touch of frost is still possible across rural areas of northern scotland, a very unsettled start to the new working week and a very rush very disruptive morning rush hour rain pushing very disruptive morning rush h0|way rain pushing very disruptive morning rush h0|way in, rain pushing very disruptive morning rush h0|way in, eventuallyain pushing very disruptive morning rush h0|way in, eventually reachingng its way in, eventually reaching parts swathe of parts of scotland, a swathe of severe 80 mile an hour severe gales, 80 mile an hour possible coastal possible winds across coastal areas england, 55 areas of northwest england, 55 to 60 mile an hour possible across the pennines and other areas of northern england. it does turn brighter for central and southern areas england and southern areas of england and southern areas of england and in the day, and wales. later on in the day, temperatures around 15, 16 c here. but still feeling a bit colder you are colder than that where you are exposed blustery winds exposed to the blustery winds into as into tuesday. it's not as disruptive monday, but it is disruptive as monday, but it is going remain unsettled going to remain fairly unsettled and sunshine and and a mixture of sunshine and showers. showers could showers. those showers could be heavy times with some heavy at times with some thunderstorms and hail the thunderstorms and hail in the mixture and we on mixture as well. and we hold on to unsettled into the to the unsettled theme into the middle and second half middle part and second half of the well with more wet the week as well with more wet and weather on way by and windy weather on the way by by who is it? >> we're here for the show .
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>> we're here for the show. welcome to the dinosaur hour. with me , john cleese . i was with me, john cleese. i was married to a therapist and you survived . i thought we were survived. i thought we were getting hugh laurie second best. >> at least you interviewed saddam hussein . saddam hussein. >> what's that like? i was terrified . i'm playing strip terrified. i'm playing strip poker with these three. oh, no , poker with these three. oh, no, thank you. >> cds need to be put in alphabetical order. oh are you going to be problematic again? >> the dinosaur are our sundays at 9:00 on . gb news bitter. at 9:00 on. gb news bitter. >> hello. hello welcome back to gb news sunday. with me, darren grimes on your tv online and on digital radio. now we've been asking for your views much more important than my own. amanda says the conservatives need to be careful of killing the golden goose. be careful of killing the golden goose . can they be sure that
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goose. can they be sure that removing suella for saying what the silent majority think won't be the final straw for leading to their sacking ? matthew says to their sacking? matthew says if suella goes on, it's most definitely curtains for conservatives and labour. the british public will vote reform, but only if nigel farage is at the helm . george says suella the helm. george says suella braverman is what the majority of people want in every politician to tell us the truth, the prime minister must keep her, he said. his government would have integrity and be honest, interesting and jane says, i think it's time these weekly march and protests were stopped allow them to gather and, well, not march in a confined and area, but leave britain's streets for british peaceful people to go about their lives. well there we are. that's that's one view that we're hearing a fair bit in that emails today. keep your views coming in, though. as i say, much more important than our own. now folks, on wednesday, the court is set to give the supreme court is set to give its decision finally, it feels
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like it's been ages on whether the government's rwanda plan is lawful. if the court rules lawful. now, if the court rules in the government's favour , it's in the government's favour, it's likely we could see asylum seekers being sent to the african country by march of next yean african country by march of next year. but the big question is what happens if the court rules the policy unlawful ? well, the policy unlawful? well, joining me now is international human rights lawyer david hey, david, thank you very much for your time today. i mean, honestly, this particular issue, david, has the emails flooded with people really frustrate it and just wanting to see some action on this? i assume if the supreme court say, i'm sorry, mr sunak, but no can do that. actually, we're not going to be seeing any action on illegal migration anytime soon. >> well, good afternoon, darren. i mean, i hate to disappoint the people that have been emailing you. i don't think whatever happens it's a big happens next week, it's a big week, whatever happens, you week, but whatever happens, you know, i do not think we are going see deportees to rwanda going to see deportees to rwanda any soon under this current
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any time soon under this current government and under the current laws that we have . if the laws that we have. if the government an effectively government wins an effectively the supreme court overturns the court of appeal in the court of appeal, back in the summer, found that the sending people to rwanda was not permitted under existing law. and if that's overturned at the supreme court and technically you're allowed to then start sending people to rwanda, you will have all sorts of other legal challenges to that, both domestically and it will go to the european courts. so that will that will effectively stop that. and then if the government win , then if the government win, then again , you're also going to have again, you're also going to have issues because people will also appeal that. so whatever happens, the government win happens, if the government win and can move you're and they can move them, you're going challenges . if the going to have challenges. if the government then then government lose, then then there's an even bigger problem because what's what's next? yeah exactly. >> i mean, politically, though , >> i mean, politically, though, this is this could be make and break for the conservative party >> exactly. and if you look at it from a political perspective, now, if the government loses now
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we know in the conservative party there's been and i don't think should out of the think we should come out of the european court of human rights, but course, that's made but of course, that's been made a issue now. and i do think a big issue now. and i do think that the next week the decision is edge. now if the is on a knife edge. now if the government loses and the court says basically be government loses and the court say:supreme basically be government loses and the court say:supreme court. ically be government loses and the court say:supreme court. so.ly be government loses and the court say:supreme court. so a be government loses and the court say:supreme court. so a domestic our supreme court. so a domestic court saying we britain cannot extradite people rwanda extradite people to rwanda because country because it's not a safe country and would be a breach of article three of the european court of european convention of human rights. so that will then bring in the back into centre stage in politics that we need to leave the european court or not. >> david's just very briefly, if you would , a lot of my viewers you would, a lot of my viewers will be saying, well , david's will be saying, well, david's just said there that he doesn't want leave the european want us to leave the european court . if the european court, court. if the european court, for example, were to that we for example, were to say that we couldn't have the rwanda migrants scheme , then a lot of migrants scheme, then a lot of people are frustrated , people are very frustrated, noted european court can noted that a european court can overrule what british parliamentarians are voting for in law . in law. >> yeah, i mean, i understand
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that. >> yeah, i mean, i understand that . i >> yeah, i mean, i understand that. i mean, i think there's a lot of bad things. the european court does, but there's also a lot of good things as well. there's a lot of freedoms that we all enjoy at the moment that we all enjoy at the moment that we wouldn't had if it we wouldn't have had if it wasn't the european court. wasn't for the european court. so there are good things and bad things it. think there things with it. i think there are other things that we do are other things that we can do to address asylum than to address asylum rather than running the european running out of the european courts. event, that courts. and in any event, that wouldn't happen this wouldn't happen in this government it's government in at this time, it's we have long enough. we don't have long enough. >> all right, david, hey, international human rights lawyer, much for lawyer, thank you very much for your time today. let's see what the makes this, shall the panel makes of this, shall we? you think we? scarlett do you think actually that that's going to be the next theme the election, the next theme of the election, then, this depending on how then, if this depending on how wednesday goes, actually having echr membership up may be at the heart of it? >> well, what's interesting is, is that rishi sunak and quite a few other conservatives do not want to leave the european court of human rights. i mean, there are for a start, britain was one of the people who set it up, so it would be terrible for us to
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leave what we feel strongly about. i mean, what people like rishi sunak feel strongly is that if we left it, then russia would say, see, we don't have to pay any would say, see, we don't have to pay any attention to human rights either because britain has left it so, i mean, i think i don't think that i think i think that possibly the reform party will use it. but i don't think the conservatives if they go into the next election with rishi sunak as the prime minister i don't think they can use it because i don't because because he's not against it . and because he's not against it. and the conservative party is completely split on it. labour wants to stay in it. that's fine . i mean , can do we? well we'll . i mean, can do we? well we'll get back to the problem of rwanda aftennards. >> now , sarah, i mean, a lot of >> now, sarah, i mean, a lot of viewers , the emails are very viewers, the emails are very frustrated about this particular issue. now, they might well be saying in response to scarlett with respect, i couldn't give two hoots what russia decides to do about the uk do or thinks about the uk decision. i want my parliamentarians that i elect
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democratically elected to actually enact the will of the british people, which is to say, who can and can't come to the united kingdom. >> exactly . and i actually think >> exactly. and i actually think this could be a great tool for the conservatives in a general election to say , come on, you election to say, come on, you know, we have left the european union. i know the echr is separate from that. but we are a sovereign nation that needs to implement it and execute its own laws that have been voted for in the house of commons. so let's we need to leave. and i think it will be a rallying cry and especially for those who want to seek leadership later . should seek leadership later. should the conservatives not win next yean the conservatives not win next year. but i yeah, i just think it's common sense to want to make your own laws and your own land and not have to rely on other laws or justices. i mean, the international community tends to hem back the united states and great britain in a large in a large way. and yeah, i don't think that the average citizen cares about that. putin
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respects the echr or not. >> do you think then if wednesday goes well for the conservative party and by well, i mean they say and actually that plan can go ahead in march that's when they would the earliest at which they would take place. do you think the conservative party would see a bounce in the polls? >> they just might actually and they might . >> they just might actually and they might. it >> they just might actually and they might . it actually they might. it might actually invigorate especially the brexiteers thinking like, okay, now we have taken back control, now we have taken back control, now we have taken back control, now we are running the show, now we can actually control the small boats crossing the channel now we can empty out the hotel halls and deal with the immigration crisis we're in. so yeah , i think it could be a very yeah, i think it could be a very positive step. >> scarlett, could this be what the conservative party needs? >> well, no, because it's not rwanda. actually doesn't solve very much. i mean , it's very very much. i mean, it's very small numbers . so what the small numbers. so what the conservative party could have done for the last few years, they could have actually processed asylum claims instead
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of spending, what is it now, £8 million a day on hotels . right. million a day on hotels. right. so that people are in hotels for years . what they should be is years. what they should be is they should be having their their their their things processed fast. that's where the money should be spent. and then the ones who are not refugees, you send them back. it's just that simple . right. and that's that simple. right. and that's how you then people then will stop coming. look what happened to the albanians, right? once the albanians knew that if they came here, they got sent straight back, they stopped coming. it was just that easy. that's how to stop people who aren't refugees coming over rwanda , as you say, even if it rwanda, as you say, even if it happened, if it's very unlikely that the supreme court will rule against the appeal court , if against the appeal court, if they do it doesn't happen until march. and then, as david hayes said , i mean, there are there said, i mean, there are there are there are going to be appeals, there's going to be all sorts of things going on. i mean, actually, what the
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conservatives need to do is they need to get the asylum system working now. >> right well, there's >> okay. right well, there's going to be lots of views on what both have just said. so what you both have just said. so thank much to my panel. thank you very much to my panel. there are loads more coming up on show with an on today's show with an emergency to house emergency scheme to house britain's prison britain's overflowing prison population found to have population being found to have cost over £40 million so far this year. i'll be asking why is britain's justice system so , so britain's justice system so, so broken? all of that and more to come. i'm darren grimes and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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isabel a monday to thursdays from six till 930 . from six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes on your tv online and on digital radio. now an emergency scheme to hold prisoners in police cells to prevent jails overflowing has cost an average of £3,000 per night. a safeguard operation launched by the government to help cope with the rise in prison population has already cost 40 million since february. let's see what my panel make of this . so, i mean, panel make of this. so, i mean, sarah elliott, it's a real problem because we are now actually finding ourselves in the position where people are saying , well, certain crimes saying, well, certain crimes potentially won't go to prison because our prisons are full and the public are saying they damn well should be actually , because well should be actually, because if you've committed a crime ,
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if you've committed a crime, pnson if you've committed a crime, prison ought to be the course of action that's taken from that . action that's taken from that. >> yeah, i mean, clearly we're we have a problem where our laws are not preventing crime from taking place. crime is on the rise. and we have no place to put the criminals and i think we're even letting them out like 18 days early because we have no way to hold them. so i think we need to have better crackdown on crime, which acts as a deterrent. so less crime is committed. and then we also need more facilities. but this is a waste of taxpayer money for sure . and something needs to change. but we you know, you cannot go weak on crime because as we've seen, especially in london with sadiq khan , when you go weak on sadiq khan, when you go weak on crime, crime is committed more, it increase cases. and then and then you have no place to put then you have no place to put the criminals. so it's a vicious cycle. and clearly the police thing needs to be more on top of
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things. and we need more cells and we need to not be putting them in emergency cells. >> i mean, scarlett, are you on the side of the argument that says actually need reform says actually we need to reform the we do justice in britain the way we do justice in britain and actually prisons aren't the only. well, a means to an end? well, i think the first thing we needis well, i think the first thing we need is more police on the streets crime. streets to stop crime. >> mean , it is completely and >> i mean, it is completely and utterly ridiculous that that that that since 2010, police numbers have gone down. right. i mean it is it is absolutely crazy is the way to stop crime . crazy is the way to stop crime. to stop criminals is through the police. and it is really just that simple. and then the whole justice system , it can take justice system, it can take years for court cases, for cases to come to court. right. that the that i mean, how how many police cells are actually used by people with serious mental health problems? because there are no beds for them. i mean, the whole system needs , needs,
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the whole system needs, needs, needs, reforming . and instead, needs, reforming. and instead, we're throwing money at it that is completely useless . ice. is completely useless. ice. i mean, we're just we're not nobody is saying this isn't working. i mean, mark rowley, to be fair , said we can't go on be fair, said we can't go on deaung be fair, said we can't go on dealing with mental health problems . dealing with mental health problems. right. i mean, and he's absolutely right. it's not what the police should be doing. but then we have an nhs that doesn't can't deal with mental health problems either. i mean, the whole system is broken . the whole system is broken. >> so they're acting essentially as social care workers as well as social care workers as well as police officers , aren't they? as police officers, aren't they? >> well, yeah. and they shouldn't i mean i mean, shouldn't be. i mean i mean, mark rowley is absolutely right. they wrong people do they are the wrong people to do it. you know, if the worst it. but, you know, if the worst comes to the worst there's comes to the worst and there's nobody else , you call nobody else, you call a policeman. >> scarlet, is there a problem on sides of the political on both sides of the political spectrum where actually we just haven't been building enough pnsons haven't been building enough prisons well ? prisons as well? >> yeah, i think prisons isn't as much of a problem as stopping crime. i mean, that's what we'd really, really like to do is , is really, really like to do is, is to prevent crime . and there was
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to prevent crime. and there was this myth that police on our streets don't stop crime. well, they do , actually. and that's they do, actually. and that's what we've learned is we've learned that closing police stations, having fewer police on the on the street actually makes life more dangerous. >> well, there's a agreement on that. but the actual the arguments, though, that i heard there and the way in which, you know, we need to tackle mental health and be be more understanding and perhaps of that being a problem within the pnson that being a problem within the prison population . when i hear prison population. when i hear that a lot in america and ain't gone too well for them. >> no . i mean, listen, the west >> no. i mean, listen, the west is in a mental health crisis. covid did not help the lockdowns, did not help. it's accelerated everything wrong. you know , i'm a i'm a small you know, i'm a i'm a small c conservative. we need to get back to the basics. in my view, we need to focus on having really good, healthy families and really good, healthy families produce healthy adults and healthy people who then
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become civic minded and contribute to society in a positive way. and that's what we need. that's what we need to be focusing on more. i think we need to be focusing at the root of it, but we also need to focus, as scarlet and i agree on more police on the street to prevent crime from happening and catch petty and catch it when it's petty and small so he doesn't small crime so he doesn't accelerate into aggressive accelerate into more aggressive and violent crime. but yes, it clear, though, in the short term, we do need facilities for these criminals to actually stay in for their whole term. so i think some of this taxpayer money would be better off putting to that as well than just these emergency cells. >> all right. thank you to both of you. >> let's deal with mental health and drug addiction and then actually, you will have far fewer people in prison. >> all right. thank you very much to my panel there. we'll be coming back to you shortly. loads come today's loads more to come on today's show course , nation show as of course, the nation fell remember all fell silent to remember all those who paid the ultimate price . we'll be looking back on
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this hour. the national service of remember is held at the cenotaph in whitehall today, provided the nation with a physical reminder of all those who've served and sacrificed with british and commonwealth soldiers , sailors, airmen and soldiers, sailors, airmen and women representing it, together with members of the emergency services and civilians , ensuring services and civilians, ensuring that no one is forgotten lest we forget. then french president emmanuel macron says that israel must stop bombing gaza and killing civilians. macron said that there was no justification for the bombing and saying that a ceasefire would actually benefit israel , saying france benefit israel, saying france clearly condemns the terrorist actions of hamas . but while actions of hamas. but while recognising israel's right to protect itself, we do urge them to stop this bombing in gaza. but should european politicians be telling israel how to go about defending itself and responding to what was a terrorist massacre? the biggest art since the holocaust and
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coming up at the end of the houn coming up at the end of the hour. jeremy hunt is reportedly set to slap drinkers with another rise in alcohol duty in the autumn statement. i've had enough and that's it. i'm rioting. it means that your average bottle of red wine is going to top £8. as hunt is poised to increase alcohol duty for the second time in only four months. so i'll be asking, should hunt keep his hands off our pints and do get in touch? send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials we're at at gb news. first, here's your news with tatiana . de darren. news with tatiana. de darren. >> thank you. 2:01. this is the latest from the newsroom. the king has led the nation observing a two minute silence on remembrance day, honouring fallen soldiers as . the prince
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fallen soldiers as. the prince of wales was among the senior royals to stand behind king charles, with the monarch wearing the uniform of the marshal of the royal air force, he then laid a wreath similar to the one produced for king george the one produced for king george the sixth. the prime minister labour leader and former pms were also at the cenotaph in central london, joined by other senior politicians and dignitaries . the met police says dignitaries. the met police says it's actively investigated possible cases of hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder , where hundreds of day disorder, where hundreds of thousands of pro—palestinian protesters marched through central london, which led to pockets of violence. nine officers were injured and 126 people arrested , including 92 people arrested, including 92 right wing counter—protests . the right wing counter—protests. the force also released images of individuals they're seeking , individuals they're seeking, pictured carrying anti—semitic placards . the home secretary, placards. the home secretary, who's attended today's service at the cenotaph , is being blamed at the cenotaph, is being blamed for stoking tensions during the
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pro—palestinian protests . during pro—palestinian protests. during the week, suella braverman described the demonstrators as hate marchers , and she accused hate marchers, and she accused the police of bias for allowing yesterday's rally to go ahead on remembrance weekend . the remembrance weekend. the scottish first minister, humza yousaf, is among the growing chorus of voices calling for her to go afraid that the home secretary's position, in my view, is untenable , that she view, is untenable, that she should, in fact, not even be allowed to resign. >> she should just be sacked by the prime minister because no home secretary should be fanning the flames of division in quite the flames of division in quite the opposite . defence secretary the opposite. defence secretary grant shapps has defended his cabinet colleague job as home secretary is to make sure that quite properly that the powers exist and the powers are then used within the operational independence of the police to make sure that marches and protests are properly policed and where the laws have been broken, as they clearly have beenin broken, as they clearly have been in some cases, that those
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prosecutions ins take place, that that is what a home secretary is there for. >> now, i wouldn't quite put it in her language. it's not the language i would have used, but the point still stands . the point still stands. >> a man has been charged with the murder of a mother who was killed in front of her children in manchester. perseverance nick gibb was found with a single stab wound to the chest in the early hours of friday morning. she died in hospital. 45 she later died in hospital. 45 year old obert moyo has also been charged with possession of an offensive weapon. he is due to appear in court tomorrow . to appear in court tomorrow. where the warnings have been issued for northern ireland, england and parts of wales as storm debbie approaches the fourth storm of the season, heavy rain and gale force winds with gusts of up to 80mph are expected earlier this month, storm ciaran caused widespread flooding. the met office says yellow alerts come into force from 3 am. tomorrow morning, ending at 6:00 in the evening . ending at 6:00 in the evening. and a line was seen roaming the
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streets of an italian seaside town after escaping from a circus. the feline sparked panic among local residents when it calmly strutted through residential roads last night after a seven hour effort. it was eventually caught and sedated . this is gb news across sedated. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . darren now back to. darren >> thanks , tatiana. let's get >> thanks, tatiana. let's get stuck in to today's topics. the national service of remembrance held at the cenotaph in whitehall today provided the nafion whitehall today provided the nation with a physical reminder of all those who have served and sacrificed with british and commonwealth soldiers, sailors, airmen and women represented at the cenotaph , together with the cenotaph, together with members of the emerging services and civilians ensuring that no
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one is forgotten. lest we forget. joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley from westminster, olivia utley from westminster, olivia , thank you very much for olivia, thank you very much for your time . i olivia, thank you very much for your time. i want to talk to you about this. boris johnson tweet last night because i think it's a sign to come in, is it not, that actually he's going to be a thorn in rishi sunak side ? thorn in rishi sunak side? >> well, absolutely . this was >> well, absolutely. this was a very strong , bold tweet from the very strong, bold tweet from the former prime minister calling out the pro—hamas marchers and essentially saying that enough is enough. it was a stark contrast to the state that rishi sunak issued last night in which he thanked the police for protecting the cenotaph. he condemned the actions of both far right protesters and a number of hamas supporters who he said , let down the rest of he said, let down the rest of the rest of the marchers on both sides. boris johnson's words were a lot plainer . there seemed
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were a lot plainer. there seemed to be a lot more clarity to them. and as you say, it does feel as though he is increasingly a thorn in rishi side. people often said when bofis side. people often said when boris johnson was prime minister that his strongest suit was in foreign politics. he, of course, led the led europe's really reaction to the russian war in ukraine and in lviv in ukraine. they still make croissants with the face of boris johnson on them. he hugely, hugely popular for acting. so decisively and so quickly and for standing by ukraine. so strongly. he's now doing exactly the same with israel and is being very clear in his absolute condemnation of pro—hamas supporters in london. does that make life a little bit trickier for rishi sunak , who's trickier for rishi sunak, who's trying to balance all sorts of issues at the same time ? now issues at the same time? now he's got the left of his party breathing down his throat for allowing suella braverman to remain in her job, and he's got the right of his party breathing down his throat over rumours
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that he's going to sack her. he's also got keir starmer breathing down his neck, saying that he's that he's just simply too anything at all. too weak to do anything at all. and now it feels like he's got his predecessor on his back as well. so feel like the well. so it does feel like the prime minister is pushed prime minister is being pushed from all sides the moment. from all sides at the moment. will the answer for rishi sunak be a reshuffle? that's what's being rumoured in westminster today , and the ministerial diary today, and the ministerial diary is suspiciously clear for tomorrow morning . tomorrow morning. >> i mean, olivia on that point then, watching the divisiveness and rishi sunak perhaps losing his authority and being surrounded by former prime ministers, by home secretary liz, who perhaps would like to see him out of office, it was a nice reminder to see his majesty the king, of course, completely apolitical , stood there as apolitical, stood there as commander of the armed forces at the cenotaph , actually being the cenotaph, actually being able to offer that tribute without the backdrop of politics being in the mix. >> it certainly was. and i was there at the cenotaph this
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morning for the ceremony. it was as dignified and beautiful, really as ever that the king was there. we had rishi sunak and keir starmer, the leader of the opposition, and all of the former prime ministers and of course, as befits the event, there was a there was a real show of political unity. but i expect that's all going to fall apart tomorrow morning. >> well, we shall see. olivia utley , thank you very much for utley, thank you very much for your time from our westminster studio . so let's see what my studio. so let's see what my panel makes of that, though. i'm joined by former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire and spokeswoman of republican overseas uk, sarah elliott . overseas uk, sarah elliott. sarah, i'm going to start with you on that point. i mean, we said we'd get back to suella and i can see scarlett mccgwire is champing at the bit there. the the whole the premise of the article that was put out in the times and as scarlett said earlier , actually, it wasn't earlier, actually, it wasn't just the times there have just the times right there have been bits and pieces leading up to this moment. first you had the speech in the united states by suella where she said
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multiculturalism failed. multiculturalism has failed. and then people started saying, oh, you know, she's she's getting brave. do you make of all brave. what do you make of all of this? do you put it down as a cynical attempt to better a position with the tory grassroots ? that's who, of grassroots? that's who, of course, could make a leader of the conservative party or do you put this down to someone actually saying, look, i'm in a position of authority, i can bnng position of authority, i can bring about change. i'm going to actually voice my opinions that i think the british people want to hear . to hear. >> i think it's more of the latter for i think that she actually is fed up with sitting in like lukewarm water and not seeing leadership step up and people not being able because of political correctness, to really to say, say what it is. really tell the truth, really be direct. i also think that she's she may have political ambitions. most people in government or in cabinet have political ambitions to go even further. but i think she's just kind of fed up with seeing that
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there's that you can't say what's actually on your mind or what's actually on your mind or what you actually think is the truth and the source of the problem. and there are many conservatives at the grass roots who really do feel this way. they to this. they connect to her on this. they connect to her on this. they find refreshing . and they find her refreshing. and quite frankly, if rishi was to sack rishi would have a sack her. rishi would have a problem with the grass roots of the conservative party. >> scarlett, i am going to give you a to come back to you a chance to come back to that. i want to ask you that. but i just want to ask you because our emails are coming in thick fast here and there's thick and fast here and there's a frustration at the a lot of frustration at the about went on at the about what went on at the cenotaph night. know cenotaph last night. i know you're about the you're very vocal about the right activism at the right wing activism at the cenotaph, a lot of people cenotaph, but a lot of people are writing in and saying things like, look, scarlett, what can we because they feel immense we do? because they feel immense dissatisfaction and actually shame as to what's been going on in london over the past few weeks, four weeks, even . and weeks, four weeks, even. and they don't know what outlet they can go down. do you understand why people feel this? this great sense of unease and unrest, even
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7 sense of unease and unrest, even ? yeah. >> i mean, there are two things. can we get. absolutely clear that the people who attacked the cenotaph were right wingers. right? right wing thugs , right? right wing thugs, actually. and they and they threw missiles at the police . threw missiles at the police. and 92 people were arrested. >> not all of them would have done that. right. there were quite a lot of them there. they wouldn't have attacked the police. >> well, they were certainly they were certainly there to cause trouble. that's what the police felt. right. that they were. i mean, i have no idea to why they why they chose to attack the police at the cenotaph. it seems to me completely and utterly crazy when what they really wanted to do, but they were stopped from doing was attacking the march. right. | doing was attacking the march. right. i think it was. mean, right. i think it was. i mean, it was completely and utterly wrong what they did. and of course, they should be condemned. i mean, they attacked the and all the police the police and all the police were doing was guarding the cenotaph for, you know, so that the two minute silence could could, could, could be observed.
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and so the western front people could actually do their thing as they do it every single year . they do it every single year. right. if people are frustrated by march , frankly, there are by march, frankly, there are marches in london all the time. i mean, i mean, anybody who lives in london knows that i happen to think on this scale and with this ferocity. but but but that's because people feel really strongly . i mean, but that's because people feel really strongly. i mean, i but that's because people feel really strongly . i mean, i think really strongly. i mean, i think you have to understand how strongly people feel about what's happening in gaza . what's happening in gaza. >> why is it that they feel so strongly about people being killed in gaza, but they didn't about people being killed in yemen or syria? why is it that when it comes to the jews , when it comes to the jews, people are on the streets calling out the most awful anti—semitic ? anti—semitic? >> no. and i think i think there is absolutely no room for anti—semitic ism. right. but actually , there are jews on that actually, there are jews on that march. there's absolutely no question about is that question about that. is that march very, very mixed march is very, very mixed demographically. right? there are jews on that march. there are jews on that march. there are muslims on that march. there
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are muslims on that march. there are sorts of people on march are all sorts of people on march 300,000 was on it. were on it yesterday. i didn't go on yesterday. okay i didn't go on it. so i don't know what it was like . and i feel actually coming like. and i feel actually coming here that i should go on these marches so that i can actually say that the friends of mine who go on these marches, they're basically they're basically peaceful marches. the friends of mine who go on this march want peace in gaza . yeah, that's peace in gaza. yeah, that's what. and they are i mean, they did actually go on syria marches and a lot of them i mean, remember that how many people marched against us going into iraq, iraq . iraq, iraq. >> yeah. i mean, it does remind me of iraq. i mean, i wasn't old enough at the time to be sat here right now , but it was here right now, but it was certainly a big event, wasn't it? in our national story and a lot of outcry there . but i mean, lot of outcry there. but i mean, sarah, the whole it just strikes me that yesterday was just the one day where the nation just wanted it to stop. right. and not be there. just one day.
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that's all people were asking for. and a lot of people , as for. and a lot of people, as i say, the inbox is filling up. they're really deeply frustrate and wondering just what the hell is going on in their country. yeah well, for one thing, you know, we're calling it a peaceful march. >> i don't find anything peaceful about from the river to the sea. you know, palestine will be free. that is not a peaceful chant. that is a chant calling for genocide, calling for the eradication of israel . for the eradication of israel. and, you know , the uk was and, you know, the uk was a source of home and safety and security for european jews dunng security for european jews during the second world war. and now for a month we have over 300,000 people marching, chanting , 300,000 people marching, chanting, ing 300,000 people marching, chanting , ing that. and it's chanting, ing that. and it's really i don't find that peaceful. i don't find that settling. i'm very quite concerned about what that means in the future for british values , for what it means for the jewish people who live here, and thatis jewish people who live here, and that is hatred, that is racism.
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labour's supposed to be anti—racist, political party. i want to hear more labour members condemning that and actually going out and saying no , this going out and saying no, this isn't right and why can't we have one day where we focus on the sacrifice of men and women who actually didn't make it home? why can't we listen to their story ? we've heard about their story? we've heard about you pro—palestinian people in for a month now. let's listen to the british people who actually saved the free world and gave you the freedom to march here by the way. and listen, i'm a mother. i think those scenes coming from gaza are absolutely heart wrenching. i absolutely hate it. but you know what? no one is marching and saying against hamas. who's put those people in that position . all people in that position. all right. listen, there was a ceasefire on the 6th of october that hamas broke on the 7th of october. and israel has every right to defend itself. and it's just amazing to me that, you know , not only is it coming from
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know, not only is it coming from immigrants who we've welcomed into this country and who have added a great deal to this country, i might add as well, but we are home growing this hate at our higher levels of education. by the way , just very education. by the way, just very briefly, because i've got to go to a break. >> do you worry about having your children in london? yeah, in the future. >> you know what? i worry about future terrorist attacks. i worry about bringing middle eastern polish chicks to the uk , eastern polish chicks to the uk, where we'll have more instances like what happened at the ariana grande concert on seven over seven. and yeah, so i am worried about using the underground being part being in large crowds is absolutely scarlet. >> i'm going to give you a chance to come back to that. we're going to discuss more of it a bit later on. so don't worry. we will give you the chance there. but that was scarlett mccgwire earlier and sara just now. sara elliottjust now. now, folks, can lots more on folks, you can get lots more on that story on our website. that gb news.com that story on our website. that gbnews.com is the fastest gb news.com is the fastest growing national news website in the united kingdom. it's got the
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best analysis and opinion as well as the latest breaking news. as you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes loads more coming up on today's show for president macron. he has said that israel must stop killing women and children in its bombing of gaza . i'll be asking bombing of gaza. i'll be asking if european politicians should stop telling israel how to defend itself. all of that and more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . welcome back to gb news news is. welcome back to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes on your tv online and on digital radio. >> now french president emmanuel macron has said that israel must stop bombing gaza and killing civilians . macron said that civilians. macron said that there was no justification for there was no justification for the bombing and saying a ceasefire would benefit israel. he said that france clearly condemned the terrorist actions of hamas, but that while recognising israel's right to protect itself, we do urge them to stop this bombing in gaza. but i'm asking should european politicians be telling israel how to defend itself, especially after such barbarism? on october seventh? well, joining me now is paris based journalist david chazan. david, thank you very
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much for your time today. now you join us from paris. you've had none of these big protests like we have because actually the french have been somewhat more robust on them, have they not, david? >> well, initially , we the >> well, initially, we the french banned the what they saw as pro—palestinian demonstrations . they then lifted demonstrations. they then lifted the ban . but the police have the ban. but the police have been organising or authorising demonstrations on a case by case basis . and many of them were basis. and many of them were judged to pose a threat to pubuc judged to pose a threat to public order and were therefore banned. now, this afternoon in paris, there is a huge march against anti—semitism because france has suffered a surge in anti—semitic acts since the hamas attack in southern israel on october the 7th. and so this is a march in which many religious leaders, including some muslim leaders, french politicians, including the far
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right leader , marine le pen, and right leader, marine le pen, and various others, are all taking part, marching against anti—semitism. yes >> i mean, david, what do you think explains this intervention by emmanuel macron? why do you think he felt the need to intervene in this way, that we haven't really seen from european leaders? so far? do you think this is a sign of dissenting voices to come ? will dissenting voices to come? will there be more dissension within there be more dissension within the ranks of the european community? >> well , that's certainly what >> well, that's certainly what emmanuel macron is hoping for. he wants the us and britain to join in france as an ally of israel and say, look, we understand completely that you had to retaliate after the terror attack against you by hamas, but what about president macron? is saying is that civilians, children , women in civilians, children, women in gaza must not, in the words of
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president macron, be made to pay with their lives for the bloodthirsty madness of terrorists, and that is why he says france is calling for an immediate humanitarian truce leading to a ceasefire . and what leading to a ceasefire. and what he's worried about is that the conflict between israel and the palestinians could escalate into a wider international conflict that the iranian iranian backed militia , hezbollah, in lebanon , militia, hezbollah, in lebanon, could get involved and that this could get involved and that this could ignite a bigger regional war. obviously france, britain, the us all want to avoid that happening now, another consideration for france is that it's home to europe's largest jewish and muslim communities .
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jewish and muslim communities. france has suffered a series of terrorist attacks on its own soil starting in two 2015 with the bataclan attacks, in which 130 people were killed in a single night in paris. so what president macron is saying to the israelis is, look, we are your friend , as we are with you. your friend, as we are with you. we ourselves have experience against terrorism. we know how it feels. you have the right to retaliate. but maybe you need to take more care over killing civilians in gaza for. >> all right. i imagine , david, >> all right. i imagine, david, that if israel were asked to respond, they would say je suis desole , no can do. but david desole, no can do. but david chazan, thank you very much for your time today from paris. now let's see what my panel make of that. let's see what my panel make of that . and let's see what my panel make of that. and sarah, i'll start with you . je suis desole . that. and sarah, i'll start with you . je suis desole. no can do. you. je suis desole. no can do. i mean, would you be saying that
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to macron to if were you in israel's position ? israel's position? >> yeah, if i was in israel's position, i said, well, you know, that's very fine for president macron. but, you know , president macron. but, you know, you you had home—grown terror in your own country attacking you . your own country attacking you. this is from gaza, which we are not in gaza . this is a territory not in gaza. this is a territory thatis not in gaza. this is a territory that is attacking us. this is our neighbour. listen, the israel's in in a very tough spot. you know, because their enemy embeds themselves in civilian communities and in hospitals and in residential areas . and it's very hard to go areas. and it's very hard to go after the enemy without taking out civilians , which, of course, out civilians, which, of course, they're taking great care to do because of international pressure. i also think because they are a western democracy in they are a western democracy in the middle east and they don't like killing children, they don't like killing civilians. but i think it's very funny that after 911, with to the americans, nobody was putting this kind of pressure on the americans saying , oh, well, americans saying, oh, well, don't bomb. you know , iraq or don't bomb. you know, iraq or don't bomb. you know, iraq or don't bomb. you know, iraq or don't bomb afghanistan . you'll
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don't bomb afghanistan. you'll kill people. unfortunately that is a very negative side effect to war. it does happen. it happenedin to war. it does happen. it happened in the second world war as well . you know, it's as well. you know, it's a horrible casualty. but israel has every right to defend itself if and it has every right to retaliate in the bloodiest holocaust , you know, massacre holocaust, you know, massacre since the holocaust. >> yeah, terrible. i mean, scarlett, are you with president macron on this ? macron on this? >> i think we've really got to start thinking about what's what's going on in and just how many civilians and in particular children are killed. i mean, i think save the children reckoned and this was a couple of weeks ago that a child was killed every 15 minutes. i mean , what's every 15 minutes. i mean, what's happening is terrible that the only hospital in gaza that can look after neonatal children no longer has any fuel for that. so i mean , it is absolutely i mean, it is absolutely
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devastating . sting and what a devastating. sting and what a lot of the palestinians are saying and the people on the streets are saying is, is our palestinian lives worth anything? now, it's interesting. sarah talks about 9/11 and what joe biden said, which i think is quite right, is there were mistakes made and i mean, iraq was a terror , a terrible was a terror, a terrible mistake. right that you talk to the region . and i mean, i went the region. and i mean, i went there aftennards not not to iraq , but but to other regional countries around and the ripples of iraq , let alone the of iraq, let alone the devastation that we left in iraq. so i, i mean, i do think that actually we and there was a march against us going into iraq right . very, very strongly. and right. very, very strongly. and for the british people , all we for the british people, all we know, we now know tony blair doesn't agree that it was the wrong thing to do. so i do think that we have to look at gaza and say what's going on. i mean ,
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say what's going on. i mean, president biden asked for a three day cessation and netanyahu says no . right. these netanyahu says no. right. these people are being killed all the time. >> sarah elliott, i just want to give you a very brief response to that. >> i mean, the problem is that with cease fires, it's a time for rearmament. so of course, bibi is like, no, we can't have a ceasefire right now because we're on the, you know, offensive and we're going after our enemy also , in terms of the our enemy also, in terms of the united states's response to 9/11, it was first afghanistan because it was al—qaeda that, you know. shields and funded by the taliban that came after us. and then iraq. iraq was a different issue , but obviously different issue, but obviously tied to it. but the you know, i mean, the complexity of this relationship is, you know, much older than any of us here. but the but israel still is a state. it's a democracy . and it needs it's a democracy. and it needs to the right to defend itself. >> very briefly , this is just >> very briefly, this is just what hamas wants. >> what hamas wants is for israel to go on killing
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palestinians , that we are palestinians, that we are absolutely playing into this. this was the script that hamas wanted. >> okay, folks, more to come . >> okay, folks, more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, darren grimes as counterprotesters yesterday clashed with police in whitehall . while many are whitehall. while many are accused in suella braverman of fanning the flame of division, i'll be asking if the home secretary really did stoke the flames of yesterday's protests. you won't want to miss that. but first, here's the news with tatiana . tatiana. >> darren thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. the king has led the nation observing a two minute silence on remembrance day, honouring fallen soldiers . malcolm fallen soldiers. malcolm grimston . the prince of wales grimston. the prince of wales was among the senior royals to stand behind king charles with the monarch wearing the uniform of the marshal of the royal air force. he then laid a wreath
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similar to the one produced for king george the sixth. the prime minister labour leader and former pms were also at the cenotaph in central london, joined other senior joined by other senior politicians and dignitaries . the politicians and dignitaries. the met police says it's actively investigating possible cases of hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder . hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder. hundreds of thousands of pro—palestine protesters marched through central london, which led to pockets of violence . the force pockets of violence. the force released images of people it's seeking who were pictured carrying anti—semitic placards . carrying anti—semitic placards. the home secretary who attended today's remembrance service is being blamed for stoking tensions during the pro—palestinian protests . during pro—palestinian protests. during the week, suella braverman described the demonstrators as hate marchers . scottish first hate marchers. scottish first minister humza yusuf is among the growing chorus of voices calling for her to go afraid that the home secretary's position in my view, is untenable. >> she should in fact not even be allowed to resign. she should just be sacked by the prime
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minister because no home secretary should be fanning the flames of division quite the opposite where the warnings have been issued for northern ireland, england and parts of wales. >> a storm, debby approaching is the fourth storm of the season for heavy rain and gale force winds with gusts of up to 80mph are expected earlier this month. storm ciaran caused widespread flooding. the met office says yellow alerts come into force from 3:00 tomorrow morning, ending at 6:00 in the evening . ending at 6:00 in the evening. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website, gbviews@gbnews.com. now back to . darren back to. darren >> thanks very much. tatiana loads more coming up on today's show as evidence mounts that jeremy hunt is set to increase alcohol duty yet again. this year will be debating whether britain's punters should be left. well, given a break, shall
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we say, by the treasury. but first, let's take a little look at the weather with jonathan. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. storm debby has been named by met air and the irish weather service and is expected to be picked up by the jet stream and powered towards ireland and the uk as we head throughout tonight into throughout tonight and into monday. some monday. potential for some disruptive particularly disruptive weather, particularly for northern ireland. the irish sea, and across sea, coastal areas and across northern england northern areas of england where severe possible. for severe gales are possible. for this evening we this band of this evening we see this band of rain way northwards rain pushing its way northwards into scotland. but it's here storm arriving the storm debby arriving in the southwest. some very heavy rain pushing england, wales and pushing into england, wales and then particularly northern ireland on. very ireland later on. very persistent here. flooding persistent here. some flooding is wave of gales is possible. this wave of gales developing in the west well, developing in the west as well, with cloud, the rain and with all the cloud, the rain and the it will be a milder the wind, it will be a milder night compared to last. but a touch of frost is still possible across rural areas of northern scotland, start scotland, a very unsettled start to week and to the new working week and a very disruptive morning rush hour well. heavy rain pushing hour as well. heavy rain pushing its way in, eventually reaching parts swathe parts of scotland. a swathe of severe gales, an hour
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clashed with officers at various locations in london include in westminster and whitehall . the westminster and whitehall. the met police says nine police officers were injured and 126 people were arrested . that people were arrested. that includes 92 right wing counter protests . scottish first protests. scottish first minister humza yousaf is calling for suella braverman's resign nafion for suella braverman's resign nation and london mayor sadiq khan says the scenes of disorder are as a direct result of the home secretary's words. let's see what my panel makes of this. sarah elliott the emails flooding in here saying to blame suella braverman for yesterday is just ridiculous. actually, some making the case that it seemed quite peaceful . the two seemed quite peaceful. the two minute silence was observed at the cenotaph yesterday. the cenotaph itself wasn't directly attacked by police. officers clearly were . now, we aren't
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clearly were. now, we aren't justifying any of that nonsense . justifying any of that nonsense. but would you actually lay the blame at suella braverman , blame at suella braverman, anne's door for that? >> no, for one op ed and then. okay, so she was in the media here, there and everywhere. no, i think, again , i mean, for i think, again, i mean, for three years, we've watched how certain protests get , you know, certain protests get, you know, not even touched like black lives matter during covid, when we're all supposed to be by the police , then we're all supposed police, then we're all supposed to be in lockdown , you know, and to be in lockdown, you know, and then you see the sarah everard memorial. get overrun by memorial. you'll get overrun by bad policing and completely out of touch with, you know , with no of touch with, you know, with no self—awareness by police . self—awareness by the police. listen, i just think that, you know, the police , they don't know, the police, they don't know, the police, they don't know what to do in this day. and age. i think they're caught up in political correctness and wokeism. and, you know, it's good home secretary to good for the home secretary to voice you voice that opinion. but, you know, we'd like to see know, i think we'd like to see some changes made. so, you know, if you're a leader, actions speak louder than words. you know, put that out there. know, she put that out there. she gave a warning sign that this is what we're looking for.
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and let me tell you, the folks that came right wing that came from the right wing thugs that came out yesterday and attacked the cenotaph and that's what they were. they were thuggish behaviour. they were motivated by seeing something that had been happening for weeks and weeks on end with absolutely no response by the police. it did not matter what suella braverman said, but scarlett , it is true to say that scarlett, it is true to say that the cenotaph itself, no one threw missiles anything at threw missiles or anything at the itself, but they threw missiles or anything at the throw itself, but they threw missiles or anything at the throw missiles :, but they threw missiles or anything at the throw missiles at ut they threw missiles or anything at the throw missiles at the 1ey threw missiles or anything at the throw missiles at the police did throw missiles at the police officers and were arrested who were guarding cenotaph . were guarding the cenotaph. >> yes. i mean, the whole well, the entrance the centre, the the entrance to the centre, the whole whole reason in for whole the whole reason in for the were there the police officers were there was guarding the was they were guarding the cenotaph the right wing cenotaph against the right wing who to so—called who were coming to so—called protect. i mean, when they say they were coming to protect the cenotaph and they throw missiles at police who were ringed at the police who were ringed round you do think there's round it, you do think there's something wrong? 92 arrests, right? nine police officers hurt . i mean, this isn't this is this is just complete and utter
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thuggery. >> but do you blame suella braverman? i absolutely blame suella braverman. >> i mean, i and the whole media thing about, oh, my god, you know, the palestinian march might interrupt with the cenotaph . what we have to cenotaph. what we have to remember is the british legion and the people who are doing the cenotaph ceremony yesterday were very , very clear. we fought very, very clear. we fought these wars so that people could peacefully demonstrate that we think they're demonstration, which is way , way over to the which is way, way over to the west, should go ahead and they should leave us alone. and we will leave them alone. and that's what happened until we got the thugs, right. i don't know how many hundred of people came because of tommy robinson's tweet saying come and do it. but i mean, we're talking about we're talking about football yobs. we're talking about the very far right wing. i mean, what happened was disgusting . what happened was disgusting. when we hear about the policing, can can we remember for that on
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the day of the coronation when they they arrested all the republicans who'd organised with the police. what their demonstration was going to be and they found themselves thrown into jail . so the maybe the into jail. so the maybe the police don't really know how to how to how to do demonstrations , how to how to do demonstrations, though i have to say it. they've been doing it throughout my lifetime. and sometimes they go over top and sometimes they don't. >> okay. i mean, sarah, on on the point of, you know, there were missiles thrown by the other side at police officers as well. we saw fireworks being set off. we saw hamas headbands being worn, which is a terrorist proscribed organisation here in britain. we saw the list goes on. i mean, what else did we see? >> we saw swastikas . >> we saw swastikas. >> we saw swastikas. >> we saw one man actually interviewed that said hitler had it, right? yeah. i mean , all of it, right? yeah. i mean, all of this stuff actually adds up to, i think, a really hostile environment for the jewish people , but also a really people, but also a really intolerable position to put the british people in where a lot of
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them are saying, i don't feel safe to go to our own capital city. >> exactly. and like i avoided central london, i wasn't going to get caught up in that. you know, also , you see you see know, also, you see you see someone actually wearing a terrorist headband and flying isis flags. i want to see the police arrest those people and war memorials as well on top of war memorials as well on top of war memorials as well on top of war memorials and rather than going after somebody who tweeted something about who's anti—transgender or somebody who is praying because they're pro—life or anti—abortion , go pro—life or anti—abortion, go after the people who are actually be terrorists, what happened to you're either with us or against us. after 9/11, george w bush said that he made it very clear that he created a foreign policy based around that. it is controversial to this day. i get that. but there is leadership. there was clear vision that in the west we do not tolerate terror. and the problem with these palestinian marches is they want to distract from the horror of the 7th of
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october. they want to talk about, you know, what's going on in gaza, which, by the way, is created because of hamas. but they are not protesting against hamas, which in my view , if hamas, which in my view, if i was their citizen there, that's what they should be doing, because that's who's keeping them down in depravity, not in israel. okay. and so to me, it's justit israel. okay. and so to me, it's just it it's just so un—british and the police should be focusing on those criminals who i think are fostering hate. the man who said hitler had it right. i think the police should be going after him. well, scarlett, some would be of the view that if that man is a foreign national, he ought to be deported. >> well, i mean, he should certainly be arrested. i mean, there's no question on that, that there shouldn't be any sort of hate speech on our on our streets . can i say that when we streets. can i say that when we talk about what george bush did, you know, he went into afghanistan. right and then we walked after 20 years and walked out after 20 years and left them so that was shameful.
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>> and that was president biden who did that. >> it was trump who >> well, it was trump who organise it. so let it was organise it. so let's let it was trump who did the deal with the taliban, actually, before it happened.so taliban, actually, before it happened. so let's have it. happened. so let's not have it. we can't say we're either against it. you're either for us or against us. what what, what is happening in gaza is appalling . right. and actually , appalling. right. and actually, there is there is no question that we've got to be able to talk about the fact that that palestinian lives do not appear to matter . i mean, that that's to matter. i mean, that that's the problem 10,000 palestinians have been killed . have been killed. >> and but that's if you believe hamas is pr machine. well i think i think that if you talk to the aid agencies that they agree . agree. >> i mean, we've we've seen the bombings, right? i mean, you know, we've we've we've seen the pictures. we've seen the doctors saying we can't do this anymore . saying we can't do this anymore. >> we're out of time. we'll we'll come back to the wonderful panel that we've got today. lots more coming up on today's show
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as well. reports are swirling that chancellor jeremy hunt is to smack drinkers with more to smack wine drinkers with more alcohol duty in the autumn statement, we'll be discussing whether the government should back off our booze . is all of back off our booze. is all of that and more to come. i'm darren grimes. you're watching and to gb news and listening to gb news britain's
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your tv , online and on digital your tv, online and on digital radio. chancellor jeremy hunt is radio. chancellorjeremy hunt is reportedly set to slap wine drinkers with another rise in alcohol duty in the autumn statement . it means that your statement. it means that your average bottle of red wine is going to top £8 as hunt is poised to increase alcohol duty for the second time in only four months. let's see what my panel of wine drinkers make of this now, sir ira elliott. are you of the view that actually well, one, we've got the highest tax burden since world war ii. right. and also the second time in four months. leave us alone on what does he want to be? >> the scrooge right before christmas, do you think this is great pr for the tories ? old great pr for the tories? old time of drink. we could all do with a drink and the cost of living is up. he also, you know, i mean, it's going to hurt the business owners, the wine makers, the merchant , business owners, the wine makers, the merchant, and it's going to make everybody grouchy when everybody has to pay higher energy prices, food energy prices, higher food pnces. energy prices, higher food prices . come on, chancellor , be
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prices. come on, chancellor, be santa claus. not scrooge scholar. >> do you see this as a wider move to get us to drink less? is this an attempt to be nanny? no >> i just think he wants the money. i mean. i mean, that's why he's doing it. it's about money. and i think i mean, i think the real the obviously, you know, as a wine drinker, i really mind. but you look at the pubs, you look at the restaurant s those people are going to be hit because people are going to 9°! hit because people are going to go, well, i can go on drinking at home. i can go into the supermarket and buy my wine. but actually, you know, you look at you look at the prices for wines in and in pubs and in restaurants and in pubs and once again, you know, more people will stop going out. and that's that is a real problem. yeah. >> so what do you think then, the rationale, sarah, is purely monetary, right? it's just to get money in the coffers of the treasury, which is not going to work because people are going to buy less. and if the business go unden buy less. and if the business go under. right. if restaurants and pubs under much pubs are also under so much pressure as is, what are you,
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pressure as it is, what are you, an anti publican, right. >> you know, it's terrible what an anti publican, right. >> needznow, it's terrible what an anti publican, right. >> need to w, it's terrible what an anti publican, right. >> need to do it's terrible what an anti publican, right. >> need to do is; terrible what an anti publican, right. >> need to do is cut rible what an anti publican, right. >> need to do is cut government we need to do is cut government spending, size of the spending, shrink the size of the state that don't have to state so that you don't have to raise taxes. how about that? >> disagree completely. there >> we disagree completely. there is a state that isn't is we've got a state that isn't working just working properly. but i just think putting putting extra money on wine is just going to annoy more people. >> going to see what our >> i'm going to see what our viewers said now because viewers have said now because loads been getting loads of you have been getting in the topics that in touch on the topics that we've been discussing today. michael says neither far right nor far left should be marching on our streets. neither of these groups represent the decent people of this country. it was totally disrespectful for any protest marches to take place on remembrance weekend . now, that's remembrance weekend. now, that's a view shared by many, fred says whilst i agree with freedom of speech and the right to protest, i do feel the legal parameters of being able to protest should be redefined well , yeah, an be redefined well, yeah, an interesting one. keep your views coming in now. i mean, on that point, i really do worry that,
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you know, there's a discussion here about whether or not we're going too far in one direction, but i don't think it should have gone ahead this weekend. that's just my view. but let me know. yours now, nana akua. we're going to come to you shortly , going to come to you shortly, aren't we? and you're on air for the next three hours. i am indeed going to be marvellous. what are you discussing today? well, i've got a lot to talk about. >> i mean, first of all, i'll have ben habib and denis macshane. they'll be live with me and we're kind of looking at whether allow whether they were right to allow these marches whether the these marches and whether the police more police actually need more powers. plus, we're going to look different things. look at different things. one thing that's happening, did you know at removing thing that's happening, did you kno word at removing thing that's happening, did you kno word christmas at removing thing that's happening, did you knoword christmas and removing the word christmas and new years the word christmas and new year's calendar, year's from the calendar, new years year's from the calendar, new year's they're keeping year's eve. but they're keeping diwali in. so a lot of the christian festivals being christian festivals are being removed we removed from calendars as we speak, i think is speak, which i think is horrendous. we'll be horrendous. so we'll be discussing plus, got horrendous. so we'll be dimonologue plus, got horrendous. so we'll be dimonologue because got horrendous. so we'll be dimonologue because i'm got horrendous. so we'll be dimonologue because i'm really a monologue because i'm really looking it is looking at whether it is actually safe to be jewish in this country. if you've got far right people protesting and you've pro—palestinians you've got pro—palestinians where do the jewish people turn?
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where is their sanctuary? where is safety? that's well, is their safety? so that's well, that's be packed show. >> nana now, i mean, i think a lot of people are of that view actually, that one, the christian heritage of the country has been totally sidelined. secondly , sidelined. but also secondly, that it well, it isn't a safe place to be. london yesterday , place to be. london yesterday, the streets of london just looked like complete pandemonium. yeah. >> i'm also going to be asking whether we are losing our british values and whether we're actually whether losing actually whether we're losing our identity as a country and as a nation. so, okay. >> they all need to stay >> nana they all need to stay tuned in because it's going to be one hell a show. thanks, be one hell of a show. thanks, nana. sarah as nana. now, sarah elliott as well. must thank you, chair. well. i must thank you, chair. well, spokesperson of well, former spokesperson of republicans overseas. i went back there and back a few years there and scarlett mccgwire former labour adviser , thank you very much for adviser, thank you very much for your today . now, folks, you your time today. now, folks, you were at home as well. thank you very do to you. you've very much to do to you. you've been watching and listening to gb sunday with me. darren gb news sunday with me. darren grimes. much grimes. cheers very much for your . and i say, your company. and as i say, don't go anywhere because nana is next and she ain't having
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is up next and she ain't having any of it, folks. but first, let's take a little look at the . weather >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. storm debby has been named by air and the irish named by met air and the irish weather is expected weather service and is expected to be picked up by the jet stream and powered towards to be picked up by the jet stream and the ered towards to be picked up by the jet stream and the uki towards to be picked up by the jet stream and the uki tcwe'ds to be picked up by the jet stream and the uki tcwe head ireland and the uk as we head throughout tonight and into monday. some monday. potential for some disruptive weather, particularly for the irish for northern ireland. the irish sea, areas and across sea, coastal areas and across northern of england where northern areas of england where severe possible. for severe gales are possible. for this see this band of this evening we see this band of rain pushing northwards rain pushing its way northwards into here into scotland. but it's here storm arriving the storm debby arriving in the southwest. very heavy rain southwest. some very heavy rain pushing and pushing into england, wales and then particularly northern ireland very ireland later on. very persistent here. some flooding is a swathe of gales is possible. a swathe of gales developing in the west as well. with cloud, the rain and with all the cloud, the rain and the be a milder the wind, it will be a milder night compared to last, but a touch of frost is still possible across rural areas northern across rural areas of northern scotland, unsettled start scotland, a very unsettled start to working week and a to the new working week and a very disrupt of morning rush hour rain pushing very disrupt of morning rush h0|way rain pushing very disrupt of morning rush h0|way in, rain pushing very disrupt of morning rush h0|way in, eventuallyain pushing very disrupt of morning rush
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h0|way in, eventually reachingng its way in, eventually reaching parts scotland. swathe of parts of scotland. a swathe of severe gales, 80 mile an hour possible winds across coastal areas england, areas of northwest england, 55 to hour possible to 60 mile an hour possible across and other across the pennines and other areas of northern england. december writer for central and southern areas of england and wales. day, wales. later on in the day, temperatures around 15, 16 c here. but still feeling a bit colder where are colder than that where you are exposed blustery winds exposed to the blustery winds into not as into tuesday. it's not as disruptive as monday, but it is going remain fairly going to remain fairly unsettled. a mixture of sunshine and showers. those showers could be some be heavy at times with some thunderstorms and hail in the mixture as well. and we hold on to unsettled into the to the unsettled theme into the middle second half of middle part and second half of the as well more wet the week as well with more wet and weather on the way
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by by >> by >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next three hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing at debating, discussing, and at times will but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled . joining one will be cancelled. joining me in an hour's time , we've got me in an hour's time, we've got broadcaster and journalist danny kelly also broadcast and kelly and also broadcast and author christine hamilton in a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds with deputy leader of reform party ben habib and also the former minister europe, former minister for europe, denis macshane. but before we get started, get your get started, let's get your latest tatiana . nana.
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latest news with tatiana. nana. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 3:00. this is the latest from the newsroom . the latest from the newsroom. the king has led the nation observing a two minute silence on remembrance day , honouring on remembrance day, honouring fallen soldiers . the prince of fallen soldiers. the prince of wales was among the senior royals to stand behind king charles with the monarch wearing the uniform of the marshal of the uniform of the marshal of the royal air force. he then laid a wreath similar to the one produced for king george the sixth. the prime minister labour leader and former pms were also at the cenotaph in central london, joined by other senior politicians and dignitaries . the politicians and dignitaries. the met police says its actively investigating possible cases of hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder . hate crime following yesterday's armistice day disorder. hundreds of thousands of protesters , of thousands of protesters, pro—palestinian protesters marched through central london, which led to pockets of violence . nine officers were injured , . nine officers were injured, 126 people arrested , including
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